[Shaun] Previously on 90 Day: The Single Life Tell-All.
I do have a knack of running,
-you know? And... -[Veronica] I know.
that wasn't fair to you.
I should have communicated better.
And I'm sorry.
I have no ill will.
I appreciate the apology,
like, truly.
Seems like it could be rekindled maybe
someday down the road.
[dramatic music playing]
[Shaun] Patrick, do you think Megan is
a jealous person?
From what I hear.
Our instances of jealousy, like, I would say once
every two weeks.
I don't think that's normal in a relationship.
And if it is, like,
God, I don't want that relationship.
It is a bigger deal
than they're making it out to be.
[dramatic music playing]
[Jamal] The way that Veronica
and Tim talk [bleep] about each other
to both of us,
I don't even know why or how y'all are sitting
next to each other.
We can be best of friends, we can be worst of enemies,
but at the end of the day,
we still got each other's back.
It's [bleep] stupid.
Well, that's your opinion.
No, it's a [bleep] fact.
Nothing you ever say, Jamal, is going to be a fact.
[Jamal] No, it's a fact. Trust me.
I have receipts too, sweetheart.
Did you call me "sweetheart"?
Yeah, 'cause you're looking like one.
Patrick, tell us.
Spill the tea.
Come on, now.
I've heard there's timelines.
Timelines on him moving to San Antonio.
There were timelines on, like,
when he's going to get engaged.
[Veronica] So, what's the timeline for the engagement?
-Five years? -[Megan] Oh, no, honey.
That's a little too long.
I mean, I'm not a timeline guy.
But she's a timeline girl.
[John] God damn! Give a man a break.
[dramatic music playing]
[suspenseful music playing]
[Chantel] John, so, in your mind,
do you feel like if things progress
and just keep going at this rate
that you'd propose to her on her timeline?
John?
My timeline?
Well, you know, you know,
you know, it's whenever, you know,
it's like whenever it happens, you know what I'm saying?
'Cause right now, baby,
Miss Megan Brown.
Oh.
[dramatic music playing]
Will you do me the honors of being my wife?
I could live 1,000 lives
and I'd never meet anybody as beautiful
and someone who has got such a great soul as you do.
And I want to spend the rest of my life with you.
And, you know, I want River to be my daughter.
-And I love you. -[Megan] Aww.
Love you, baby. It's beautiful.
[Shaun] Oh, I'm so proud of both of you.
Megan, I don't know if we heard that answer,
-Oh, yes. -[John laugh] Yeah! It could've been a no.
[Natalie speaking]
Do you wanna show that off?
[Natalie speaking]
-[Ms. Debbie] It's beautiful. -I'm like, I gotta take this other one off.
[Shaun] Yeah, take out the other one.
[Chantel] I don't know.
I need a Kleenex for real.
-[Shaun] That's beautiful. -Hey, John.
congrats, man.
I want to see the ring.
I just want to-- get the lights up.
-Oh, that's beautiful. -[Megan] Thank you.
That was our first ever Tell-all proposal.
[Ms. Debbie] Oh, congratulations to both of you.
We better all get invites.
Well, let's not rush the date now.
All right? We just got engaged.
-Yeah. Don't ask me that. -[John] Uh. Baby steps.
Patrick, how do you feel, your brother's engaged?
I'm here to support him any way I can.
And sometimes that doesn't mean I say,
like, all the nice things.
But at the end of the day, it comes from my heart.
So I'm happy for you guys.
-Thank you. -Thank you.
Megan, so how are you feeling?
-You're engaged now. -[Megan] I know.
I feel different.
You think that'll help with the jealousy a little bit?
Like, feel more secure?
Yeah, I think it will.
Lucky guy.
I love you. I'm lucky.
John is getting married before me.
[all laughing]
Always the bridesmaid, Tim, never the bride.
[Shaun] So you gave Tyray a standing ovation,
basically, for his first kiss.
-I think the newly-engaged couple-- -[Tim] Yeah, absolutely.
[Shaun] ...needs a round of applause.
[John] It's all her.
-All her. -[all laughing]
-[Tim] Let's go, Johnny. -[Shaun] Congratulations.
-[John] Thank you. Thank you. -Thank you, guys.
Thank you.
[Shaun] Well, Patrick, we certainly are happy
you joined us.
Thank you for taking the time,
and please give our best to Thais.
[John] Good to see you, bro.
Bye, guys.
Later, Patrick.
[Ms. Debbie] Bye, Patrick.
[Patrick] I had no idea he was going to propose,
so I was super surprised.
I definitely feel like they love each other,
and I've seen that.
But I don't always think that's enough.
[Shaun] All right, and Megan,
take care, and congratulations.
-Thank you. Thank y'all so much. -[Shaun] Thank you, Megan.
[whooping]
Bye... [indistinct]
-[wolf whistle] -[Megan] Thank you.
-[Natalie speaking] -[Megan] Thank you.
[Shaun] John, this was so much better
than an on-stage divorce like we had last year.
Hear me, hear me.
I hope you all find what I found. Good luck.
Oh, my God. I can't believe that I'm finally engaged.
Super excited.
It's a lot to take in,
but I'm just happy that he did it,
'cause it was about time.
The clock was-a-ticking. [chuckles]
-I'm so excited for you guys. -[John] Yeah.
You guys seem like such a good match.
-You seem so sweet. -Yeah. We just need to,
you know, like everybody, work on some things.
Knowing what you have to work through is
like, the first step.
-So it's knowing the problem. -Yeah.
Yeah. As long as you're going to be aware of the situation,
-then you can fix it. -Yeah. Yeah.
[phone ringing]
[Patrick speaking in Portuguese]
[in English]John just got engaged.
He proposed to Megan.
[Thais speaking in English]
I know.
I'm surprised, too.
[Thais speaking on phone]
[Patrick] That's what I'm worried about,
that they're moving really fast.
I mean, I know she had a timeline
and was kind of like putting it on him for a while,
but I didn't think he was going to do it today.
I mean, nine months ago, Megan was a booty call.
-So... -[Thais speaking]
-They're good. They're good. -[Ms. Debbie] I've got to give
-my man, John, a hug. -Aw, thank you, Ms. Debbie.
I'm so proud of you
-for being a stand-up guy, you know? -Ah, thank you.
-Sometimes. -And you took some heat,
-but, you know, you the man in my book. -I'll take it.
[Veronica] You had all three of us back here
-crying like babies. -Well...
And you know what? It gives me hope.
-[Tyray] Me, too. Exactly. -It looked like
the whole thing was gonna fall apart,
and then you came through
like a knight in shining armor.
-Thank you, Ms. Debbie. -And I loved it.
I just loved it.
[crew member speaking]
[Thais speaking]
[Patrick] I know, because--
just 'cause you're engaged doesn't mean, like,
you know, those trust issues are
going to go away.
They got a lot to figure out for sure.
[Thais speaking]
[crew member] Three, two...
[Shaun] All right, everyone, I want to move on now.
Debbie had been crushed
by her failed relationship with Oussama,
a Moroccan man 43 years younger than her,
who admitted
he wanted a green card out of their marriage.
After finally moving on,
she has begun dating men closer to her age.
And while the results have been encouraging,
it has brought on a whole new set of problems.
All right, Ms. Debbie, how has life been in Georgia
now that you're back from Miami?
Well, it's kind of like a rebirth, you know?
It's like, "Hey, I just got my wings
and I can fly."
I'm learning about dating,
and it's not easy.
[Shaun] We are going to talk all about your dating journey
in just a minute.
But first, I want to welcome two of our past 90-dayers.
One of them is recently back on the dating scene
after being in a relationship
for three years,
and another who pursued and found love again
in her twilight years.
Please welcome Fernanda and Debbie.
-[applause] -[Tim] Hey.
[Shaun] Come on in, ladies.
[all] Hi!
-[Shaun] How are you? -[Fernanda] It's so good to see you.
-Everybody looks fabulous. -[Debbie] You look well, Shaun.
Hi!
Fernanda, it's been such a long time
-since I've seen you. You look great. -Thank you.
-[Shaun] Hello, Debbie. How are you doing? -Good!
I know both of you can probably identify
-with what Ms. Debbie is going through-- -[Fernanda] Yeah.
[Shaun] ...this season.
So we are going to love to get your take on it.
Looking forward to it.
[Shaun] So Ms. Debbie, after the heartbreak
of your breakup with Oussama,
you went out on your first date.
Let's take a look.
I had a feeling you were a real sincere person,
loyal,
but I told a lie.
Okay, what's your lie?
Well, I'm 67 years old.
-Oh, my God. -[Ms. Debbie] I lied by 10 years.
Don't worry about it.
-It's okay with you? -It's just a number.
[Shaun] You lied about your age.
-Yes, yes. -[Shaun] With Russ, okay?
Do you think that he did not want a second date
when he found out
that you actually lied about your age?
Well, I was feeling so guilty.
But then it was like, he accepted me.
And-- 'cause I wanted to get that off my chest right away, you know?
I don't like carrying a lie around,
even if it was a white lie.
How many years did you shave off?
-[Ms. Debbie] Ten. -Okay.
[Tim] I mean, it's not a white lie, I don't think.
Like, two years is a white lie.
Yeah, two years is a white lie.
-Ten years is like-- -[John] Ten years is a lie.
You know, that's, like, from 40 to 50,
you know, 60 to 70.
You know, it's a lie.
[Fernanda] I think that's wrong.
You shouldn't start something with lies.
Absolutely not.
I think you should be proud of your age.
Seriously. For some reason, you're not.
You know, there's a lot of people
that don't get to 68.
They don't.
I'm 72 and I'm very proud of it.
I don't ever lie about my age. I never have.
You have to be truthful.
You have to accept your age.
There's nothing wrong with being 68 years old.
Well, the thing what happened, Debbie, is
when I put down my real age on the dating site,
no one would communicate with me.
It was like crickets.
It was a vast void of nothingness.
Then don't go on the dating site.
Go out, meet people in real life, face to face.
You think being on a dating app is
gonna draw the right crowd?
-It's like, okay-- -[Ms. Debbie] Well, at least I have a chance
to sift through them.
[Debbie] No, no.
Do you think it was just your age
that stopped people?
Maybe the way you write your information about you--
There's a lot of different things.
You think my profile's no good?
That's what you're saying?
[Debbie] There's a special app for seniors.
Have you tried that one?
I think Mama Debbie's on the attack to Ms. Debbie,
you know? It's like, that's what it looks like.
-[dramatic music playing] -[Debbie scoffs]
Can I say I have money
when I don't have money
because I really like this girl?
Why can't you accept your age?
I don't understand that.
[Shaun] Coming up.
[Ms. Debbie] Poor Ruben.
Why were you so tough on him?
Some of my gut tells me there's something wrong with Ruben.
[dramatic music playing]
Are you guys exclusive?
Well, I haven't seen anybody for a year.
[Debbie] But do you see other women?
Who's the policeman here?
Is Mama Debbie the policeman?
I just don't get it.
[Shaun] And later...
I'm going to tell you something,
but please don't go back
and say you heard it from me.
It's probably nothing,
but I saw Luisa
and I saw Jamal
out at the restaurant at the hotel.
I think that there might be something to that.
[dramatic music playing]
[suspenseful music playing]
Why can't you accept your age?
I don't understand that.
I had to do it.
I was put between a rock and a hard place.
You weren't having any luck on the site,
so you thought about lowering your age,
just for the statistics--
-Exactly. -[Tim] ...that people would
-actually give your profile a chance. -Right.
[Debbie] Let me ask you this.
What if a guy lied to you and said he was 40?
-[Ms. Debbie] Well, I would-- -And he was really 65 or 70?
But I wouldn't mind
because I've got his unfiltered photo.
I wouldn't have a problem with it.
Okay. But you wouldn't care
-if this gentleman lied about his age? -[Ms. Debbie] No. No.
-I wouldn't. -You wouldn't automatically think "You're a liar"?
If his picture looked fine and was realistic.
-I agree with that. Yeah, I think it's worse-- -I actually do, too.
[Tim] Yeah, I would rather know who I'm talking to
and know what they really look like.
And then the age-- I mean, a lie is a lie.
But if I got to pick,
I would rather not have a filtered photo.
Chantel, lying about your age,
shaving off 10 years, is that a big no-no?
I don't advise it again.
Yeah.
Just be honest.
[Natalie speaking]
-Exactly. Yes. -[Natalie speaking]
"More creative about reality." Okay.
[ladies laughing]
[Natalie speaking]
[Shaun] Oh, you would lie about it?
[Veronica] Okay, men do regularly lie
about their heights, though.
The number of 5'8 "6'" tall men
I've been out with, don't even get me started.
I went out three times on a dating app.
Every one of them was married and lied about it.
I had one. She was missing her front tooth.
Oh, no!
[Shaun] All right. Well, his Police Academy background may have
something to do with this,
but Debbie's son Julian is
extremely protective of his mother,
especially when it comes to the men she dates.
Let's bring him out right now. Please welcome Julian.
-[Tim] Yeah. -[Shaun] Hi, Julian.
Hey, y'all. Good to see you again.
-[Debbie] Hi, Julian. -[Shaun] Welcome.
What's up, Julian?
What's up, homie?
[Shaun] Julian, thanks for being here.
Good to see you again.
You've seen
your mother really putting herself out there recently
since Oussama.
How do you feel about her getting
back out on the dating scene?
Well, everything I say to mom is irrelevant,
because I was listening back there
what she was saying.
She was like, "Well, I don't get these guys.
These are not nice.
These guys..." you know?
What about the ones that I said
hey, you should go on a date with?
The one-star retired brigadier general
from the United States Army. I said, go on a date with him.
What'd you say?
"No, he's not an artist.
-I want somebody that's an artist." -[faint laughter]
"And all this." Right?
A police officer buddy.
I said, "Mom, would you be interested in a police--"
"No, he looks too serious."
-[laughter] -[Julian] And then a firefighter.
"I don't know about all that."
But then you pick people like Ruben, Oussama.
[Shaun] Is that true, Ms. Debbie,
that Julian has suggested some nice guys
and you've turned them down?
Well, Julian does suggest occasionally a guy.
But then again, it's kind of like they seem to be
a little rough around the edges,
or I'm intimidated by them.
Like, these guys that you're picking, Mom, there's...
We don't know if they got jobs.
They don't have jobs.
[Tim] I get what he's saying.
A poet versus a brigadier general.
-[Julian] Yeah, I mean-- -Yeah, I get it.
-Bills don't get paid. Like, her and Ruben-- -[Tim] Yeah.
And it seems also more like structure and stability.
-[Julian] Right, exactly. -Right.
Well, Ruben seems like a nice partner to enjoy
the evening of my life with.
[Julian] I mean, something in my gut tells me
there's something wrong with Ruben.
I wouldn't be surprised if something came back on him.
You're saying you don't trust Ruben?
[Julian] Well, every time that I talked to him,
he wouldn't look me in the eyes,
and everything was just go about
and round about the answer.
I said, "Do you have a job?"
"Well, uh, yeah. Well, well--"
And then he told me he worked at a lighting studio,
or whatever it was. And then he tells you
he doesn't have a job. And then he tells you
his parents are sick
or "Why don't you move to Miami?"
Then when I asked about you moving to Miami--
"Oh, I didn't say that. I didn't say that."
You know, and just...
[Shaun] Well, Ms. Debbie and Ruben had
a wonderful time together in Miami.
Let's bring Ruben out here
to find out where things stand.
Please welcome Ruben.
-[laughter and applause] -Oh.
Hi, pretty.
[Shaun] Well, look at you.
[Veronica] That is a getup.
They really are perfect for each other.
[Shaun] You look very nice.
How are you doing, Ruben?
-Marvelous. -[Shaun] Oh, good.
You are very colorful.
-Thank you. -[Shaun] So, Ruben, is this the first time
that you've seen Debbie since Miami?
-[Ruben] Yep. -[Shaun] It is?
Okay. What would you say is
the status of your relationship
with Debbie?
Well, we text back and forth every day.
And I hope we have more time to get together
and date more traditionally,
which is a little difficult when living in two states.
Are you guys exclusive?
Well, I haven't seen anybody for a year
because I've been with my mom in the hospital.
That's pretty much my life.
-But do you see other women? -[Ruben] No, no.
[Tim speaking softly]
[Debbie] Have you been in many relationships?
Have you been married?
Do you have kids?
[Ruben] Yeah, I was married to an attorney for 17 years.
-[Debbie] Do you have kids? -Nope, never had kids.
When's the last time you were in a relationship?
Probably about two and a half years ago.
Okay.
Like I said, I hadn't been dating anybody or seen anybody to begin with
-for the last year. -Okay. That's all I needed to know.
[Ruben] And the only communication I had
was with Debbie, actually.
[Ms. Debbie] Who's the policeman here?
Is Mama Debbie the policeman?
I just don't get it.
[Shaun] Well, speaking of policemen,
when it comes to being protective of his mom,
Julian does not mess around.
He pushed his way onto Debbie's trip to Miami,
grilled Ruben about his past,
and revealed details of Debbie's past love life.
Here's a look back
at some of Julian's behavior in Florida.
Uh-oh.
I've met a nice man.
What's his full name,
date of birth, and social security number?
Oh, hell no.
Oh, my gosh, Ruben.
[Ruben] Oh, my God!
What is this, honey?
[Ruben] Oh, my. This is our blue chariot.
-It awaits. -This is our chariot?
[Julian] Oh, hell no.
What the hell? That's so unsafe right there.
What the hell is he wearing?
Looks like Ronald McDonald out there.
He pulls up in this three-wheel car.
I mean, mom rides in a four-door closed-roof vehicle.
That's all right. I got a picture of his tag,
and I'm going to run a full criminal history on this guy.
Not getting a goodbye by him.
Dangerous.
You ever been in trouble with law?
-Nope. -Never been in trouble with law?
-Nope. -Never been arrested?
[suspenseful music playing]
[Veronica] The frowniest face ever.
You look so mean.
It's like, poor Ruben.
Why were you so tough on him?
You see this...
-patch of gray hair? -[Ms. Debbie] Yeah.
It's named Oussama. That's...
[all laughing]
[Ms. Debbie] That's not Oussama sitting next to you.
[Julian] No, I'm just saying,
this is because of you and your decisions.
You want someone more conservative
-than Ruben. -No, I'm not saying-- I want somebody that has structure.
Well, I think he's got structure.
I have plenty of money in the bank.
I have zero mortgage.
My house is free. My car is free.
Everything about me is free.
I'm not a third-world guy
trying to find a green card here.
It's a whole different scenario.
But you see where I'm coming from, though,
because she got took to the cleaners last time.
Yeah, but you got to judge an apple with an apple,
not a pear and a banana.
Two different worlds.
[Julian] But you know you're bad at taking hints, right?
Because yesterday, I was watching mom text you.
She was asking to pretty much meet with you,
right? Why didn't you just come up there
and meet with mom?
Then you're like, "Oh, well, I'll meet you halfway."
If you like a lady
and you want to be with a lady,
you got to go the extra mile.
I did text her to try to meet,
but by the time I got home here last night,
it was super late.
And she never, uh, complied back.
You know, "Yeah, let's get together tonight." So.
[Ms. Debbie] Well, the reason I didn't respond back
because I thought, after all this time,
and you had an opportunity to see me,
if a man is really interested,
he'd run all the way to my hotel to say hi to me.
I mean, it's true. Like, you know.
[Shaun] Ruben, do you think
that Julian never gave you a fair chance?
Julian, I think, has his vision.
You know, he wants a guy,
you know, dressed in a suit
or jeans or whatever.
But, you know, I dress up to have fun.
Don't they kind of go together?
[Tyray] I think they look great together.
I think they could be a great match.
You know what? He's a little over the top.
I prefer more of a sedate look.
Like, the pink pants, I could live with
if you paired it with a black shirt.
Debbie, you are wearing a tutu
and a goldfish, [chuckling] okay?
Like, come on now.
Mom, he's got your face on his socks. Jesus.
Oh, Ruben, those are adorable.
-[Ruben] Yeah? -[Julian] Mom, he's got mom's face on a sock.
[Veronica] Oh, that is cute, Ruben!
[Debbie] Oh, my gosh.
-No, no, no, no, no, no. -[Fernanda speaking]
[Veronica] No, thank you, Ruben. No, thank you.
[Ruben] You said you liked the socks,
so I figured, well, okay.
-[Veronica] Oh, come on. -Oh, my gosh!
Check it out.
[Shaun] Coming up.
She's a gorgeous girl,
but there was,
I don't want to say red flags,
but there was definitely some things that,
you know, you learn about people.
[Luisa speaking]
[dramatic music playing]
[Ruben] You said you liked the socks,
-so I figured, well, okay, well-- -[Tyray] Oh.
Oh, my gosh!
[Shaun] Oh, my gosh!
-[Chantel] Those are cute! -[Veronica] No. No.
[Tim] On his bloomers.
Is that Debbie on your panties?
[Veronica] Oh, my God!
That's actually really cute!
Mom, can you go get a protection order right now?
This is going to end badly.
You just scored some points, honey.
[Ms. Debbie and Ruben laugh]
[Shaun] Ms. Debbie,
what did you think about that?
He's got your face plastered
-all over his underwear. -[Tim speaking]
I find it complimentary.
Yo, you didn't know about this?
No! How was I supposed to know?
What other creepy things might come out?
Hey, freakies are fun.
Honestly, I would say run, Mom. Run.
He may have like a voodoo doll or a little shrine to you.
I think it's creative.
I think it's very sweet and creative, too.
Meh. Not avoiding anything.
I just wanted to see some effort put in
-and, you know, I'm-- -He's wearing your face on his bloomers.
I know. And see,
well, he's out of the doghouse
because of the bloomers.
[Ruben] Well, I tried to meet yesterday,
but she's kind of conservative,
you know, with her sexuality.
So I didn't want her to think,
"Oh, he wants to come over to the, you know,
to the hotel, take advantage of me."
So I said, "Well, I'll meet you halfway.
So we would meet in a neutral place."
Well, thank you for shedding light on that.
I didn't think of it that way, but it makes sense,
-'cause you know I am conservative. -[Ruben] Exactly.
And I do respect myself, and I respect you.
Thank you.
Julian, you said you were going to run Ruben's plates
and do a background check on him.
-Did you do that? -No, I didn't do it.
-[Shaun] You did not. -[Ruben] He should have done it.
Squeaky clean.
You can do whatever you like. I have nothing to hide.
Debbie, do you think that Ruben is hiding anything?
Well, there is one thing, Ruben.
You know how we met on the dating site?
Well, about a month and a half ago,
I got a really funny feeling.
So I went back on that dating site
and reactivated my account.
And I saw
that you're frequently on the dating site.
And that hurt my feelings.
[Ruben] Well, I don't have a paid membership there.
I do get notices on there.
So if I get a notice,
I'll go in there.
But I don't have a live membership there.
[Tim] You're not exclusive either.
You guys aren't exclusive. What does it matter?
[Ruben] We don't, you know, we're not-- Correct.
Was he looking for a particular type of woman?
Well, a certain age group.
Thirty to fifty.
And I'm way over the 50 range.
And I says to myself,
well, Ruben likes young girls or young women.
And maybe he doesn't like me because of my age.
And he knows my age.
Are you saying the age range that she saw last month is
the same when you guys met?
'Cause didn't you guys meet on that same app?
Yeah, it's probably been the same.
I've never changed.
[Shaun] Ruben, is your profile
on this dating app
set to women
thirty to fifty?
[Ruben] I don't even know.
I did it so long ago that I don't even know.
I don't like that answer.
It is.
Oh.
But don't keep me around
if you're looking for someone
you know,
in the 30 to 50 range.
[Ruben] But I mean, I don't go say, "Okay, what's your age?"
That's not the number one criteria.
because it's about having fun and a good fit.
And age, I think, is just an irrelevant number.
[Shaun] Debbie, do you feel like you could trust Ruben
any more today?
You know, I was worried.
I thought, well, maybe he has,
you know, someone else he's interested in.
And if that's the case, you know, count me out.
Because I want you to be happy with your choices.
So are you interested in dating Debbie again?
Yeah, I know probably Julian's shaking his head,
-but, you know... -[Julian] I'm--
Suck it up, my friend.
[Julian] I'mma-- I'mma let it go this time.
[Ruben] Ah, you let it go.
-Okay, good. I got your blessing, right? -[Chantel] Wow.
-Almost. -[Ruben laughs]
So Debbie, are you interested
in continuing your relationship with Ruben?
I-- I think so.
You know, I might ask you to pair up a black shirt
-with those pants. -[Veronica chuckles]
[Ms. Debbie] But other than that, yeah,
you're fine, you know?
[Ruben] Might be hard to find a black shirt, but okay. [chuckles]
-[Fernanda] I'm rooting for you guys. -I'm rooting for you guys.
Don't disappoint me, Ruben the Cuban.
Will you two be exclusive
starting today?
That's up to Ruben.
[Ruben chuckles]
I've been pretty much exclusive
only with Debbie anyway.
She's the only one that I've been kind of
had any communication with.
But you were still on dating apps.
-Very vague about that. -[Ruben] Yeah, but I'm--
[indistinct conversation]
My profile is there,
but I don't have a paid membership,
so I can't access anything.
[Julian] So would you be willing to get rid of the profile?
-Yeah, I mean, I'm not paying-- -All right. You heard that?
[Ruben] ...for it, so I can't access it anyway.
[Julian] So no dating, no more apps-
No more dating profiles, right?
No more Bumble
-or whatever and whatever, whatever. -I don't have any of those.
Okay, so I'm just saying.
You heard that, right?
-Yeah. -So if you see him on a dating app,
then you know he's--
Yeah, then I know, you know,
'cause I'm looking for sincerity
and, you know, someone I can respect, Ruben.
[Shaun] All right, well, you're exclusive
from this moment forward.
Ms. Debbie, you came here a single woman.
Now you're leaving with a boyfriend.
[whoops]
I've got me a real boyfriend now.
[applause]
[Shaun] Yeah.
[Shaun] Julian seems thrilled at this moment.
[all laughing]
Debbie and Fernanda,
thank you both for your valuable input.
Debbie, we'll hear more from you shortly.
And Julian, it is very sweet how you care for your mom.
-Thank you, Ms. Shaun. -[Shaun] Very sweet.
Thank you so much for coming to talk with us
-and sharing your feelings. -[applause]
[Veronica] Bye.
-[indistinct chatter] -[Shaun] Okay.
Okay.
Debbie, congratulations to you and Ruben
for officially starting a relationship.
We hope you have many happy times
in the future.
Thank you, Shaun.
Appreciate it.
Okay, guys. I want to circle back
-to Tim. -Yay.
[Shaun] And I want to welcome back
Luisa and Jamal.
Oh, my goodness.
-[Shaun] Hi. -[Jamal] What's up, guys?
[Shaun] Luisa and Jamal,
thank you for coming back to join us.
Tim, we left you and Luisa.
You guys were moving forward, albeit slowly.
Where do things stand with you two today?
I mean, I still consider her a friend,
but as far as, like, romantic-wise,
they just never blossomed into anything more.
She's a gorgeous girl,
but there was,
I don't want to say red flags,
but there was definitely some things
that, you know, you learn about people.
[Veronica] He means a lack of compatibility.
[Tim] Yeah, exactly.
And I don't want to put that all on her.
I just don't think I was personally ready
coming out of a long-term relationship
to really invest the time
to build a relationship.
-[Luisa speaking] -[Tim] That's not what I said.
I even stopped and said, "That's not what I'm saying.
That's the wrong way."
What I was trying to say is, like,
I don't think we're that compatible.
[Shaun] Luisa, you look upset.
What's going on in your head right now?
Did you think it was headed in that direction?
[Luisa speaking]
[Jamal] For you to say Tim used you,
that's just so funny to me.
'Cause Tim has accused me
of using Veronica this whole time.
So I'm just like, wow, it's like the pot calling the kettle black.
-Yeah. -So good job, Tim.
No, it's not the pot calling the kettle black.
No, Tim is not a user.
Thank you, Debbie.
[Shaun] All right.
Tim and Luisa's relationship seemed to be
on the right track,
and it was progressing quickly,
maybe too quickly.
Let's take a look back
at how Tim suggested they take it slow.
What are your, like, five things
that you have to have for you to even consider
being in a long-term relationship?
[Luisa] You need to kiss me.
Like, you want me to show you?
[laughs]
Me too, don't worry.
I'm a very slow... person.
Okay.
And I'm very respect--
I'm Southern, you gotta understand.
We do things slowly.
Okay.
[Luisa speaking]
Right? So, wait, I don't understand, though.
What are you trying to say?
Okay, what does that mean?
You're getting very close to me.
-I know. -Well, I--
Are you forcing me to give you a kiss right now?
I'm not forcing you.
-Can I? -Okay.
We can, like, have a little-- a little kiss.
What do you mean, a little?
I mean, just, like, a little.
I don't want a little.
Like a sample.
I wanna--
I don't want to brush my teeth and stuff.
Like, come on.
-Is that sexy? -Okay. Okay.
Let's see.
[romantic music playing]
-[Luisa giggles] -You hit my teeth.
[Luisa laughs]
[all laughing]
[John] I got to be honest, Tim.
You know, it's kind of hard to believe
you just don't jump her bones.
No, John, I'm right with you.
You know what I'm saying?
I understand you're from the South, bro,
but I've been to Texas
-and they jump bones -[Jamal] When I first saw Luisa,
I was like, "Tim bagged Luisa?"
I was, like, kind of impressed.
I was like, why is he not going to kiss her?
Yeah, no, she's beautiful.
[John] Well, you know, it's just, you know,
-I understand, but I don't. -[Jamal laughs]
It's just so funny
that every time I'm sitting on the stage,
that's all we focus on.
Like, it's the biggest deal in the world.
It's like, "Why didn't you try to have sex with this girl?"
Who cares?
Or just like a kiss.
[Tim] We did kiss.
Oh, I saw.
That's weird.
But does that make me a bad person?
Luisa, you are definitely interested.
[Luisa speaking]
[Shaun] No.
Imagine, Tyray,
some women wanting to jump your bones,
and you're just over here like,
"I'm too busy, I gotta play with the boys."
[John laughs]
Tim, you heard a lot of the accusations from Luisa.
I want to get your side.
[Tim] No, a lot of what she said isn't true.
But I liked her,
and you know, I had talked about her for years.
[Shaun] What do you mean by that?
Oh, [bleep]
[Shaun] Coming up...
Luisa and Jamal, you two spent
some time last night together, right?
I don't want to make that a [bleeping] thing, right?
[Ms. Debbie] She's a knockout.
I know that, you know?
And he's a man, and he's a good-looking man.
[Jamal] Thank you, Ms. Debbie.
You think I'm handsome?
Ooh!
[dramatic music playing]
[suspenseful music playing]
Oh, [bleep].
-Cool. I don't know what to say with that. -[Luisa speaking]
"I'm sorry."
I don't know if that's something to apologize for.
[Shaun] This is not the first time you've heard
someone say that and make that accusation.
[Tim] No.
What would you like to say?
I don't give a [bleep] what people say, to be honest.
It doesn't bother me.
They're gonna continue to say that
for another five or 10 years.
It's part of my life.
-[Luisa speaking] -So I've accepted it.
'Cause people that love me know the real me,
and they know that I'm not gay.
-And for you to sit there-- -[Luisa speaking]
For you to sit there
and say that you think that means you don't know me.
[Ms. Debbie] It's possible Tim has low T.
-Oh! Low testosterone. -[Veronica laughs]
[Shaun] What are you talking about, Debbie?
Low testosterone,
and that's why maybe he doesn't
-have the sexual drive yet. -[John] No, she's not joking.
[Veronica] I've told him that.
He's pretty low-energy, so it makes sense.
-Right. -[John] I have low testosterone.
I take injections, I know.
Got checked. Now I just inject myself.
You know what I'm saying?
And then, bam! Hammer.
-You know what I'm saying? -[ladies laughing]
-Okay, John, can you explain that? -[Ms. Debbie] Down, boy.
[John] I decided to get it checked.
And yeah, I was low as hell.
So, you know, they give you injections.
Bam, next thing you know,
Johnny wants to go play around again.
Tim, I think a lot of people do wonder--
-[Tim] Mm-hmm. -...why you could be
-with a woman as beautiful as Luisa-- -[Tim] Yep. Yes.
-It must be that I need to go-- -[Shaun] Jennifer.
...to the doctor for low T. I agree.
Maybe that's an issue. I don't know.
Do you find that unusual that people think that?
I can understand why people deduce,
like, their opinions the way they do,
because most men,
given the opportunity to be with Luisa,
would jump on that.
And I understand.
I even said she's out of my league. She's gorgeous.
And that's the one thing she can't take from me.
I told her since I've known her
how beautiful she is
and how she's the most gorgeous woman in Charlotte.
[Tim] I think that that's...
I think that's wrong. I think I've shown you
many times that I've cared about you.
I didn't show up to jumpstart your car
when I had COVID at your ex's house?
[Tim] Oh, okay. Uh...
But, literally, every time I say something,
you tell me I'm lying.
[Jamal] Bro, Tim is doing
the same thing he's done every time.
He's trying to make himself look good,
-trying to pretend he did a good job. -Exactly. Exactly.
You didn't do [bleep]
I never-- I didn't do a good job.
Who said that?
Luis and Jamal ran into each other
at the hotel last night
and they amped each other up.
[Shaun] Luisa, okay,
it's clear that you were very, very hurt by--
Yeah.
-[Shaun] ...by Tim. -Yeah.
Have you moved on since this relationship?
[Shaun] Have you been on any dates?
[John] Got Tyray over there. He's like,
[exclaiming]
"I got you, dog."
Come on. Johnny's here for you.
So Luisa and Jamal,
you two spent some time
last night together, right?
Not really. Everyone was at the bar.
I don't want to make that a [bleeping] thing.
Yeah.
[Ms. Debbie] And she's a knockout,
I know that, you know?
And he's a man, and he's a good-looking man.
[Jamal] Thank you, Ms. Debbie.
You think I'm handsome?
Ooh.
I'm nervous now.
Okay, Luisa, is there anything you would like to say to Tim
before you say goodbye?
[Luisa] Um...
Jamal, Luisa, thank you so much
for talking to us today.
We wish each of you the best in the future.
We're going to pause here and take a quick break,
but we'll be right back.
[Jamal] That was a lot. [chuckles]
Tim got put through the fire today,
but it's been overdue.
I just feel like he kept trying to make it seem
-like he was doing a great job. -Yeah.
-[Veronica] Hello. -Hello.
Oh.
[Tim] What are we talking about?
[Tim] I'm sorry that you feel that way, truly.
I don't want to hurt your feelings.
So if you feel like that, I'm sorry.
[Veronica] That was a thing.
Yeah.
I think it's-- Look, I feel better.
-I don't know about you. -I feel like everything got released,
-you know? So I feel really good. -Right?
I, um...
I'm sorry if I came at you a little too strong.
I do feel like...
I don't know what the future is like or anything,
but I hope, you know,
I'm still there for you.
I know. Same-same.
I know you're there for me and I [bleeping] hate it.
I'm like, why did this have to happen?
Because life.
Because it wasn't the time,
it wasn't the place.
It's all good.
It's all good?
So what are you doing after?
I mean, right now I have to go talk to Tim,
-but later-- -Always gotta go check on Tim.
-Look, that was-- Look. -Tim, Tim, Tim, Tim.
-That was a lot for everyone. -Yeah.
I think you're in a good place,
I'm in a good place,
-but-- -Are we in a good place?
I mean,
call me later and we'll find out
how good of a place we're in.
All right. Okay.
-I'll see you later? -Mm-hmm.
-Bye. -Bye.
[Shaun] Coming up.
[Chantel] It seems like
Jamal and Luisa are pretty close.
Listen, we all know they spent the night, right,
hanging out together.
I mean, they were probably just sitting there, you know,
talking about their relationships.
-[Chantel] Yeah. -[John] Yeah.
Call me later and we'll find out how good of a place we're in.
All right. Okay.
-I'll see you later? -Mm-hmm.
-Bye. -Bye.
[Jamal speaking]
[Veronica speaking]
Welcome back.
[Tyray] I'm gonna go out, though.
I got to paint the town red.
Well, maybe we can all go to dinner together.
-Yeah, I think that'd be fun. Yeah. -[Veronica] That'd be fun.
If we go to dinner, Jamal's definitely coming with, so.
[Natalie speaking]
[Veronica] There was a little, you know,
-we had like a little-- -[Chantel] Oh, are y'all making up?
We just-- we just-- we just-- let's see where it goes.
Are you sure you want to go out tonight with Jamal?
[Veronica chuckling] I mean...
is it a good idea? No.
Am I going to anyways? Probably.
[Tyray speaking]
-Well, I'm trying to-- -[Tyray laughs]
I'm trying to say, like, let's all do a thing.
[Tyray] Let's do it. I'm down.
Maybe you and Jamal will be the new you and Tim.
Hey, maybe.
[Tyray] Right.
Maybe, 'cause that won't make me then completely undatable.
[Tyray] Yeah.
All my best friends are my exes.
[Veronica and Tyray laugh]
-[Veronica] It's totally normal. -[Tyray] Yeah.
Sorry, guys. I'm going to sneak off to the bathroom.
I'll be back in a second.
Do you think that Veronica should see Jamal tonight?
Well, I think realistically,
they were going to meet tonight.
So, I mean, that's my guess.
I mean, I also, you know, I just ran-- I go--
I'm online and stuff.
I'm on social media.
And she liked one of his pictures.
-Oh, okay. -[Tyray] Good you did that.
-That's smart. Detective. -Oh, I'm smart.
-Okay, you need to join-- -Detective John, baby.
-[Tyray] Julian. -Not just a bald head.
I'm also smart, man.
She really likes Jamal
-a lot. -[John] I'm just saying! I don't know.
If I was hating someone and not getting along with someone,
would I like their photo? No.
Especially the one with him going like this.
You know?
Sex.
I mean, sometimes it's good.
Who knows? I don't know.
You know, boredom.
You know, you got nothing going on. You're single.
Why not mingle?
[Chantel] They're both really great individuals.
I just-- I'm not sure.
'Cause they were like, going at each other's throat.
[Tyray] Yeah, bad.
I think she liked that aggression
when he was like [grunts] you know what I mean?
When he was going off, she was like, "Oh, yeah."
-Oh, dang. -[Tyray] You know what I mean? [laughs]
[Luisa speaking]
[Jamal speaking]
[Luisa speaking]
[Jamal speaking]
[Luisa speaking]
[Chantel] Well, it seems like
Jamal and Luisa are pretty close.
And I'm going to tell you something,
but please don't go back
and say you heard it from me.
It's probably nothing,
but I saw Luisa and I saw Jamal out
at the restaurant at the hotel.
So I just wonder
if there might be something there.
[Jamal speaking]
[Luisa speaking]
[speaking while chuckling]
-[Jamal speaking] -[Luisa laughs]
[Jamal speaking]
[Luisa speaking]
[Ms. Debbie] I caught vibes.
I think that there might be something to that.
Listen, we all know they spent the night, right,
hanging out together.
I mean, they were probably just sitting there, you know,
talking about their relationships.
-[Chantel] Yeah. -[John] Yeah, yeah.
[Luisa speaking]
[Jamal speaking]
[Luisa exclaims]
[Luisa speaking]
[Jamal speaking]
[Luisa speaking]
[Jamal speaking]
[Luisa speaking]
[Jamal speaking]
[Luisa speaking]
-[Jamal speaking] -[Luisa giggles]
[Shaun] Next time on the shocking conclusion
of 90 Day Fiancé: The Single Life Tell-all.
[Chantel] Okay. Five, six, seven, eight.
One, yes!
Ms. Debbie, yes!
[Ms. Debbie] Throw my hair around.
Yes!
Mike was getting ready to give you
everything you wanted in the beginning,
and you left.
If I give you everything, you're just gonna leave.
Like, how do I know that's not gonna happen?
[dramatic music playing]
Here we are again, Mike.
Natalie, what is it like seeing Mike and Josh
in the same room?
Mike, where is Debbie going?
She's grabbing something real quick.
You shouldn't have done this on national TV, man.
You just shouldn't have.
That was a low blow.
Don't pick on Mike.
Okay, everybody, can we give
Natalie a moment here?
[man] Yeah.
She's got these friends.
The guy she sleeps with last night calls her a charity case.
-Oh, shut up. -[Ms. Debbie] She's got her ex-husband
that breaks her heart on national TV.
[Debbie] Shut up. You don't know anything about it.
And then she's got "Mama Debbie."
That didn't look very damn motherly to me, honey.
Your mind is in the gutter, honey,
and my mind is someplace else.
Your mind is [bleep] up, I'll tell you.
Sorry, but it is.
Well. You know, I saw how you acted
in your son's personal affairs,
and no wonder they wanted you out of the house.
You're a very destructive and demanding woman.
Don't you dare talk about my family.
You have no right to talk about my family!
Then get my name out of your mouth, woman.