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[Narrator] In 2018, Snapped: Killer Couples
told the story of Rebecca Keller and Keri Murphy,
a young couple consumed by obsession.
The obsession with being in love with each other drove them to do
one of the darkest things that I can ever imagine.
[Juan] There was a total of 74 stab wounds inflicted.
It was a vicious, brutal crime.
[Narrator] Currently serving a 60-year sentence
in the Texas Department of Corrections,
Rebecca Keller opens up about her relationship
with Keri Murphy
and the night that changed her life forever.
I may have made a mistake, but I'm where I need to be.
But this would never have happened
if she had never mentioned it.
I was hoping she would have second thoughts about it,
but she didn't.
All I could just do was hit my knees and cry.
I let her control me and manipulate me.
[Nefretiri] She can't fully accept
that she played an equal part in this.
That jail call was as good as a confession.
I just wish that I was strong enough to walk away.
I wish I could take that back.
She was trying to say that it was my idea,
but as long as the truth is out, that's all that matters.
[theme music]
[music]
[Rebecca] My name is Rebecca Keller,
and I decided to do this to get my story out,
to be able to help other women.
In a split second, your life can change. And you can't take anything back.
And it's a lot of the regret that I have
from that night, from that mistake.
I can't change it. I can't make it better.
I can't fix it.
All I can do is keep moving forward
and know that in the back of my mind,
in the bottom of my heart, I am sincerely sorry.
[Juan] I think they were living in a fantasy world.
and get away with itthey were goand live happily ever after. [sinister music]
[Narrator] July 16, 2012.
At 1:07 a.m., 911 dispatch receives a frantic call
from 16-year-old Keri Murphy.
[Craig] She told the 911 operator
that someone had kicked in the back door,
and that she then heard her mother screaming,
and that she ran out of the house.
She had fled the scene to the neighbor's house.
So the dispatch and first responders treated it
as an active break-in at that time.
Whewho was identifiedne, as Keri Murphy. with a female She told us that it was someone in the home attacking her mom.
Upon getting to the backside of the house,
I noticed there were two windows of the house
that were broken, and the door was open.
I made entry into the home and cleared all of the rooms,
and at that time came to the bedroom
where Keri's mother was laying.
I just saw there was a lot of blood,
and the victim was laying crossways on the bed.
I couldn't tell at that time what the injuries were.
I checked to see if maybe she was still alive.
I did not feel a pulse.
[sirens wailing]
[Narrator] When paramedics arrive on scene,
they confirm their victim, 47-year-old Mary Ann Murphy,
has succumbed to her injuries.
[Juan] There was a total of 74 stab wounds
inflicted to her whole body.
Uh, blood all over.
It was a vicious, brutal crime.
[Narrator] Investigators arrive
and begin processing the crime scene.
[Juan] Everything that I saw suggested
that she was asleep when she was attacked.
I could right away rule a robbery out,
because there was nothing that appeared to be missing.
Also, an intruder is not gonna stay there long enough
to inflict more than 70 stab wounds.
So that in itself told me that she was the target of this.
The sole motive was to go in there,
kill her, and leave.
It had to be somebody that was mad at her
and wanted her out of their life.
This was someone that knew the victim.
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[Narrator] Mary Ann Allen
was born and raised in Houston, Texas.
[Wesley] Me and Mary Ann were raised
on the north side of Houston.
We both attended MacArthur Senior High School.
I graduated in 1981,
and Mary Ann graduated in 1983.
When she graduated high school,
she went to work for the Department of Public Safety,
and that was her whole life.
She loved her job.
I guess because people would call her,
and they always needed help, and she was there to help them.
She was just a good person.
[Narrator] In the mid-1980s, Mary Ann's brother
introduced her to his friend, Don Murphy.
They started going out,
and eventually ended up getting married.
They decided that they were gonna start having babies,
and that's when she found out she was pregnant with Scott.
[Narrator] Six years later, Mary Ann and Don
welcomed a baby girl named Keri.
[Trisha] Mary Ann was a very good mother.
She was a very loving mother.
She loved her kids dearly and would do anything for them.
It was, in my eyes, the--you know,
the typical American dream childhood.
They embarrassed me, to be honest with you,
'cause they were the husband and wife
that would hold hands and, you know, hug each other.
[Denise] We always said that it was the perfect four.
It was the perfect family, you know?
Scott was good with his sister.
[Scott] Keri knew that she could talk to me about anything.
She and I had a very open relationship.
She was very driven with extracurriculars.
She wanted to play sports. She wanted to be in the choir.
[Amber] We were in choir together.
She was shy when you first met her,
Um, liked to play around,d up, liked to joke around. Um, have a good time. That kind of thing.
Rebecca Keller was, at the time, in choir.
And Keri just kind of fell head over heels for her.
The friend group accepted
Rebecca and Keri's relationship.
[Narrator] In 2012,
with her two children doing well,
Mary Ann was ready for the next chapter in her life.
[Scott] She was knocking on her 30-year retirement.
She was very, very proud of her kids.
We couldn't do any wrong in her eyes.
She wanted to just make sure that we were happy.
I wish I could rewind time and this never happened.
I worked the graveyard shift.
July 16, 2012, 1:04 a.m.,
I get a phone call from my sister's phone.
She says, "Scott, someone broke into the house.
My mom's dead."
I dropped everything I had in my hands,
and I started to panic.
I called my father to let him know
that he needed to come home,
so he started heading this way.
[Narrator] At the crime scene,
investigators take Mary Ann's daughter, Keri,
aside for questioning.
[Craig] Keri told me that
she had been up in the dining room scrapbooking,
got tired, and went to bed,
and wasn't in her bedroom very long
before she heard a crash.
She said that someone had kicked in the back door,
and that she then heard her mother screaming.
She ran out and called 911 from across the street.
She stayed with some witnesses who let her use their phone.
She stayed with them until the police arrived,
which was only a couple of minutes later.
The detectives had me place Keri in the backseat
of my patrol vehicle.
She didn't ask if her mom was okay.
And that to me kind of sent up red flags.
She didn't seem to have the emotion of someone
whose mom was attacked.
She wasn't hysterical. She wasn't crying.
She didn't appear to really be upset.
She was more calm than anything.
I didn't know for sure what had taken place,
but I had a feeling that, in some way,
Keri was connected to what had happened at the scene.
you don't really Wthink about things.ou just, You just act on them, but later on, you regret them.
It's the last night of her mother's life.
I remember Keri telling me that she was scared.
We both were really scared to carry on with this.
[Narrator] Coming up, the investigation takes a turn
with a shocking admission.
To have someone confess to a murder that they didn't commit
is manipulation at its finest.
[Narrator] And horrifying new details of the murder
come to light.
[Keri] She was screaming, telling me to stop.
But I couldn't.
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[Narrator] In July of 2012,
the Harris County Sheriff's Office
is investigating the stabbing death
of Mary Ann Murphy
after her 16-year-old daughter, Keri,
called 911 to report a break-in at their home.
While deputies escort Keri to the station for questioning,
authorities continue processing the crime scene
and discover several concerning clues.
[Fred] In the bedroom,
we noticed that tand starting to coagulate,ry which would indicate that she had been deceased
for a longer period than the time that was stated.
I noticed that there wasn't any damage to the back door,
and there were two windows
just to the left side of the back door
that were broken.
When you break a window from the inside,
the glass falls to the outside.
And when you break a window from the outside,
the glass falls inside.
And I noticed that one window had been broken from the inside,
and the second window had been broken from the outside.
So from my observation and looking at the scene,
it appeared that someone had staged a break-in.
From the call and what was stated from Keri
about a break-in,
it would appear that Keri wasn't telling the truth.
[Narrator] Realizing he'd been to the Murphy home before,
Officer Fred Hooper offers investigators
the name of Keri Murphy's girlfriend, Rebecca Keller.
[Fred] Months before, I was dispatched to the home,
and I spoke with Mary Ann,
and Keri was on scene, as well as Rebecca.
And Mary Ann told me that she didn't want Keri
involved with Rebecca.
She was very upset that
she's asked Rebecca several times
not to come to her home,
and she insists on coming anyway.
So at that point in time, I arrested Rebecca
and transported her
and charged her with trespassing.
And being that I had arrested Rebecca
at that scene prior to the incident,
I, um, gave her name to the detectives
when they arrived on scene
as possibly a person of interest.
[Narrator] An investigator travels
to Rebecca Keller's house
to speak with her later that morning.
[Rebecca] The investigator came to my house,
and we had sat in his car, and I did a statement.
GrSo, you know,as Mom and Dad, always busy. kids. I was into a lot of
extracurricular activities growing up.
You know, I was in choir.
I had, you know, a lot of friends.
[Narrator] Rebecca says she befriended Keri Murphy
about two years earlier.
[Keri] We were in high school.
I was a senior. She was a freshman.
We met in choir.
Keri, her heart, her spirit
drew me to become friends with her.
We may have been different ages,
but it was a lot more easier to lean on somebody like her.
We were actually out at the mall
with my best friend and her best friend.
You know, we all had,
like, a little friend date for my birthday.
So I think that's when the feelings for one another
transpired to pursuing a relationship.
She was the first one that I was in a relationship with a woman.
Me and Keri, we decided
to come out and put it out there.
One day in choir,
being young, you were like,
you think that everything is important.
Everything, like, revolves around this person.
We were very much in love.
[Narrator] Mary Ann Murphy, however,
was not so keen on the budding romance
between her daughter and Rebecca.
[Scott] She didn't agree with the age difference
between Keri and Rebecca.
She voiced that opinion very often and very bluntly.
[Denise] It wasn't about the fact that
her daughter was seeing another girl.
It was the fact that I think Mary Ann knew
that Rebecca was not the best influence.
[Rebecca] Keri would sneak me in her room at night
while her mom was asleep and her dad would be at work.
And I guess we had fell asleep.
Her mom had heard a noise or something
and caught me in the room.
The second time that she caught me
was when both me and Keri were in the shower, naked.
That's when her mom called the cops.
They arrested me, took me to jail.
There was.
There was a lot of challenges.
She lied a lot.
Just small, simple things like who she got a text message from,
who she was on the phone with,
who she was meeting up with.
After she had lied to me so many times,
I started pushing her away.
[Narrator] After learning more about the couple,
investigators ask Rebecca when she last spoke to Keri.
She's acting like she's forthcoming.
That, "Yeah, you know, we liked each other.
"We tried to have a relationship,
"but it didn't work out.
"And that's been about a month and a half ago.
I haven't talked to her since then."
[Narrator] When investigators question Rebecca
about Mary Ann Murphy's murder,
the 20-year-old is adamant she had nothing to do with it.
I said I was over at a friend's house
when all this was occurring.
So he took down my statement.
He left.
[Narrator] While authorities work
to verify Rebecca's alibi,
investigators turn to Keri Murphy
and the inconsistencies in her initial statement.
[Craig] The timeline doesn't match.
There was some dried blood on her,
which signaled time passage.
We know how long it took for the deputies to get there
and go inside and find your mother.
That would have been within minutes
after you said you heard your mother scream.
[Narrator] With permission from Keri's father, Don,
investigators sit down with the 16-year-old
for a formal interview.
[Greg] When she's pressed by detectives
for details about the timing of events,
the fact that there was no forced entry,
she then begins to switch her story.
there is somebody sby the name of Zein." That was the very first time we heard the name Zein.
We wanted to talk to him.
[theme music]
[Narrator] 16-year-old Keri Murphy
has just implicated a person named Zein
in the murder of her mother, Mary Ann.
[Juan] Zein was a friend of Keri from school.
One of the things that Zein had a crush on her. She wasn't interested in him.
[Amber] He was kind of a shy guy.
Wore, you know, big baggy pants, chains, more of like the gothic emo type.
But he was very quiet.
[Rebecca] I grew up with Zein.
but, I mean, he was a good person.rd kid, [Narrator] According to Keri,
two days before the murder,
she asked Zein if he could help her
after she was caught sneaking out.
One night, Keri's mom caught Keri outside.
[Greg] Keri Murphy's lie at that time is,
"I heard a strange sound.
"There was a strange suspect around the house.
"So I was really just out of the house,
looking for this suspect."
[Narrator] Mary Ann knew her daughter was lying
and grounded her.
But Keri had come up with an idea
to get out of being in trouble.
Keri says she wanted Zein to come and knock on the wall
of her bedroom and run off so that the mom would think,
hey, there is somebody suspicious outside.
So maybe Keri was telling me the truth
about why she went out
and she won't be punished.
[Narrator] But Keri tells investigators
that when Zein showed up that night,
he barged into the house with a knife.
She's admitting to, "Yeah,
"I knew this guy was going to come over my house,
"but I didn't know he was gonna murder my mom.
And I lied about it because I knew he was coming over."
[Narrator] While Keri remains in custody,
investigators bring Zein to the station for questioning.
He said that he didn't know what Keri was talking about.
Then he was asked if he would
take a polygraph, which he agreed to.
[Narrator] A polygraph examiner takes Zein
into another room to administer the test,
which elicits an unexpected revelation.
Zein ended up admitting to stabbing,
killing Ms. Murphy.
[Craig] He said it was an accident.
He just got scared.
He said, "She woke up and startled me,
and I just panicked, and I stabbed her."
I'm like, "Wow, you know, this is a new one on me."
You know, sometimes you call them wrong.
[Narrator] As investigators continue talking to Zein,
his confession begins to fall apart.
[Juan] Zein said he had went up to the second floor
and that he had stabbed Ms. Murphy
like three or four times,
which that in itself didn't match the evidence.
That, for one, the house that Ms. Murphy lived in
was a one-story residence.
There was no second floor.
And two, she was stabbed over 70 times.
[Narrator] On top of the errors in Zein's story,
his parents are adamant
that he was at home on the night of the murder.
And they have proof.
He was playing video games, and there was actually pictures
of him playing with time and date stamped on it.
[Narrator] When asked why he had confessed,
Zein offers more insight
into his relationship with Keri Murphy.
It appeared that Zein would dHe was infatuated with her, and she used that to her advantage.
So that begs the question,
what exactly is she trying to cover up?
To have someone confess to ais manipulation at its finest.t Zein was in his whole punk rock stage,
black clothes, black nails, heavy metal.
So it was easy for Keri to point the finger to him.
He says he gave a statement to Sergeant Clopton
because he thought he would be released and he could go home.
This is a suspect who is not of an average intelligence.
So he was a little bit...
intimidated by the whole process.
With all of that information,
we decided to dismiss his charges.
Then we began our investigation further
into who actually committed the murder.
[Narrator] With suspicion escalating
around Keri Murphy's involvement,
investigators sit down with her brother for questioning.
Keri had a close relationship with her brother,
and so the best route was to
have conversations with her family.
This is where the investigation really started to shine a light
on how dark Keri's relationship with her mother had become
after Keri and Rebecca Keller developed
a very intense bond.
[Scott] Mom could see the obsessions beginning,
and she didn't feel that it needed to continue.
She drew the line, and it was, "No more.
You are not allowed to see her anymore."
Her mom was just very controlling over her life,
over what she could do,
what she could eat, whatever, anything.
She was controlling.
[Trisha] Keri would lie to Mary Ann a lot.
Once Mary Ann would go to sleep, she would go in and steal
Mary Ann's keys and take off with her car.
[Craig] Mary Ann was gonna to punish her,
took her phone from her.
Rebecca gave Keri a cell phone
so that they could still communicate,
and the mom wouldn't know that she was talking to her.
And he said they called it the bunny phone.
I asked Scott, "Okay, do you know that number?"
And he said, "Yeah."
So he gives me that phone number.
I'm going to order the phone records.
[Narrator] On August 6th,
investigators received the phone records
for Keri's bunny phone.
[Juan] The information we were able to obtain
was that Keri and Rebecca
had been in constant communication
leading up to the murder.
[Rebecca] When Keri got arrested,
it was very scary.
Knowing in the back of my mind was like,
"Okay, I'm next"
or "They're gonna come get me next."
I felt like a little kid in a corner.
Felt like I was being surrounded by everything closing in on me.
[theme music]
[Narrator] Investigators have arrested 16-year-old Keri Murphy
for the murder of her mother, Mary Ann.
Six weeks into the case,
investigators set their sights on Keri's girlfriend,
Rebecca Keller.
The investigators came and gouh, took me downtown, put me in the interrogation room.
[Craig] So, then I start telling her, "Okay.
Well, I know that y'all were talking to each other."
She says, "Okay, okay. I went over there because
Keri called me and said she had killed her mom."
Rebecca said, "So I went over there
"just to help her cover up.
When I get there, Keri's got blood all on her clothes."
She tells Keri, you know,
"Hey, you ought to make it look like a burglary."
And Keri comes up with the idea, "Hey, I can blame it on Zein."
[Narrator] Rebecca admits that she convinced Keri
to stage the scene instead
before fleeing so Keri could call 911.
[Rebecca] The plan was to make it look like a break-in.
I decided to hide the bloody clothes,
the knives, and all that.
I hid them in a dumpster
that was down the street, where a school was.
The next day, I went over there
and got the clothes, took them somewhere,
and burned them.
Basically I was owning up to getting rid of the evidence.
Not really owning up to
carrying out the act of taking a life.
I just told them somewhat of the truth
and somewhat of a lie.
[Narrator] While both young women remain in custody,
investigators continue sifting through the evidence.
The search history on Keri's cell phone seems
to corroborate at least part of Rebecca's statement.
[Craig] Keri was Googling,
"What's the quickest way to kill somebody?"
She used sleeping pills and just different methods.
[Narrator] But the phone records also suggest
that Rebecca Keller was more of a collaborator
than an innocent bystander.
Well, those Google searches were at the same time
that she's talking on the phone with Rebecca.
So I know that they are scheming this together.
[Anna] It was clear that they were
both involved in the planning.
They wanted to be together.
And Mary Ann stood in the way.
I was older. I was 20 years old.
Keri was 16.
They seen me as the person manipulating her,
and really it was the other way around.
She was manipulating me.
She was the one that basically called
all the shots on everything.
[Narrator] While the young women await trial,
Keri's family posts her bail.
Rebecca Keller, however, remains in jail.
But as both their trial dates near,
investigators still aren't sure who wielded the knife
that took Mary Ann Murphy's life...
until a series of jailhouse phone calls
exposes the gruesome truth.
All of these phone calls that these two girls had
were recorded.
[Scott] Rebecca says, "I'm just glad
that you didn't see what happened in there."
And Keri said, "I did. I was in the hallway
and I looked."
Rebecca says, "You weren't supposed to see that.
I told you to stay in your room."
That let me know then, you know,
that Rebecca had done the stabbing.
Rebshe claimed she had nothing to do with the actual murder. But now we know Rebecca was the one
that stabbed Ms. Murphy.
That jail call was as good as a confession.
It was very disturbing someone attacking her mother. [Narrator] The couple's jailhouse phone calls
also reveal the reason they decided to kill Mary Ann
on July 12th.
Her mom had took her phone
and was basically gonna have it, like, scanned
or locked open, or whatever,
'cause she always kept the password on it.
[Craig] Mom told her, "Well,
what's the passcode to your phone?"
Keri wouldn't give her the passcode.
And the mom said, "Well,
"I'm gonna take this to work with me
"and I know guys there that's gonna get this unlocked,
and I'm gonna see what's going on."
Keri had been texting back and forth with her
where they had been sending nude photos as well.
The text messages were not something
a mother of a 16-year-old girl
expected to find on a phone.
They were quite intimate.
[Craig] Keri was like, "I can't let Mama get
back to work with that phone."
And that's when she started Googling about,
you know, what's the quickest way to kill somebody.
And they made that plan.
[Narrator] Investigators theorize that Keri and Rebecca
put their plan into action that same night.
[Craig] I believe Keri lets Rebecca in,
tells her, you know, "Okay, Mom's sleeping."
Rebecca tells her, "Okay, wait in your room."
[Anna] Then Rebecca got on that bed.
And she proceeded to stab Mary Ann over and over and over.
[Fred] The crime took place roughly around 9:00,
but the call didn't come in until about 1:00.
So there were some hours that were unaccounted for,
which indicated that Keri and Rebecca had took
that amount of time to clean up the scene.
My biggest fears was that I'd be pushed out of my family,
be pushed away from people that I love,
people that I cared for.
Fear of being killed...
uh, being locked up for the rest of my life.
A lot of things were going through my mind that night.
[Narrator] Coming up, Rebecca Keller opens up
about the night Mary Ann Murphy was killed.
I loved her so much that I wanted to prove to her
that my love for her was real.
[Narrator] And the young women's bond
is tested behind bars.
After we were sentenced, we were together in county.
I could depend on her, but the relationship changed.
I started learning that she was turning on me,
that she was trying to put all blame on me.
[theme music]
[Narrator] 16-year-old Keri Murphy
and 20-year-old Rebecca Keller
have been charged with the July 2012 murder of
Keri's mother, Mary Ann.
[Fred] I believe the motive was for Keri and Rebecca
to be together at any cost.
I believe that Rebecca and Keri both plotted to kill Mary Ann.
This would never have happened if she had never mentioned it. And I had given her multiple occasions
to walk away from this--
not just from that night,
but this relationship that we were having.
[Nefretiri] I think there's still some resentment
on Rebecca's part
that she played an equal part in this. accept Both girls planned this out.
They fed off of each other, and it led to the ultimate tragedy.
[Narrator] In December of 2012,
two weeks before Keri's 17th birthday,
a judge rules that she will stand trial as an adult.
But despite both Rebecca Keller and Keri Murphy
facing first-degree murder charges,
neither case ever goes to trial.
[Anna] Rebecca entered into a guilty plea.
Keri entered a plea on her own,
admitted guilt, and took what the state offered.
Keri got 30 years, and Rebecca got 60 years.
[Wesley] To me, Keri should have got
the same thing Rebecca did.
Keri's just as guilty as Rebecca is
'cause she stood in the doorway
and watched it happen and didn't stop it.
[Fred] Her life was lost,
and her mom will never get 30 more years,
so I think that the punishment was light.
I feel the same about Rebecca.
I feel like her sentence was light.
I just feel like any loss of life or you taking a life--
and 60 years is light
compared to a life that was lost.
[Rebecca] After we were sentenced,
we were together in county for a very long time.
We were not sexually active with each other.
We were just emotionally, mentally in a relationship.
Like, we weren't really how we were before.
Us being in county, I could depend on her.
I could lean on her, like, just like she could for me.
We really, like, just talked about our relationship,
where it was gonna lead to.
And so we just would talk about how much we loved each other,
how much we cared about each other,
how much we, you know, we meant to each other.
But the relationship changed.
I started learning maybe a year or so after
that she was turning on me.
She was trying to put all blame on me
and not taking any accountability.
Trying to say that it was my idea,
that I'm the one that came up with it,
when really she was the one that came up with everything.
[Narrator] Now, after 13 years behind bars,
Rebecca Keller is ready
to open up about her true role in the murder.
[Rebecca] Keri was talking about
killing her mom for a while,
for a couple of months before this even happened.
I thought she was just saying it out of hurt, out of anger.
I really didn't think that she was gonna really play it out.
I guess when she finally did decide...
she involved me.
She was just telling me that it needed to be done,
that she didn't want her mom to live anymore.
Telling me we could live happily without her.
"You can go in there and do this because you love me."
And I did. I did. I did love her.
And I loved her so much that I wanted to prove to her
that my love for her was real.
We both came up with a plan--well,
more of her came up with a plan to stab her, kill her.
When she let me into the house, I was in disbelief
that it was really gonna happen.
I really thought I could just talk Keri out of it.
I was hoping she would have second thoughts about it,
but she didn't.
[theme music]
[Narrator] In 2012, Rebecca Keller
and Keri Murphy were convicted of
the murder of Keri's mother, Mary Ann.
Now, Rebecca Keller opens up
about the night Mary Ann was murdered.
[Rebecca] She gave me the knife. I walked into the room.
I was really scared.
I kind of, like, stood over her mom a little bit.
Undecisive if I wanted or just grab my stuff and leave. So I walked back out.
Keri was in the kitchen.
And...
She just looked at me and she's like,
"What are you doing?" I was like, "I'm scared."
I was scared to carry this on.
And she manipulated me again.
She talked me into going to the room.
I guess the best thing that I knew to do was
to just close my eyes and just carry on.
Mary Ann was screaming,
telling me to stop.
And I couldn't.
I just couldn't because I had Keri's voice in my head,
telling me, "Keep going."
And I guess after the last one that I did,
I didn't even realize how many or where at.
It was dark.
I walked out.
All I could just do was just hit my knees and cry.
Cried to know that I took somebody's life because of
Keri's selfishness.
Because of Keri's anger towards her mom.
I let her control me and manipulate me.
I do.
I still think about it. I still replay it in my head.
It's been 13 years, and I deal with it every day.
I regret taking somebody's life
because I have to live with it for the rest of my life.
To know that I took somebody's mother,
somebody's sister,
somebody's aunt...
away from them.
And I can't take that back.
[somber music]
It's taken Rebecca a long time to be able to speak about what really happened that night
and the fact that she was the one
who wielded the knife that took Mary Ann's life.
And I think that goes to show the stride she has made
in prison to accept responsibility and grow.
[Rebecca] I do desire to be punished what happened.
I do feel that
the amount of time that I was given was
a good amount of time for the act that I carried out.
But I was very angry,
because I feel that if
she's the one that helped set everything up,
why should she have a lesser sentence than me?
We should both have the same sentence.
But, I mean, as long as the truth is out,
that's all that matters.
We are not in touch at all.
She steadily keeps trying to reach out to me.
I've let Keri know that
I don't want nothing to do with her.
She's already taken so much from me.
Why am I gonna allow you to take more from me?
[somber music]
I talk to a lot of women here about the struggles
that I dealt with and everything.
To help them, if I can impact them
and help them change their life.
It makes me feel good to know that I may have made a mistake,
but I'm where I need to be.
I need to be here to help these women
because they're broken.
And if I can reach out and help them,
that's all that matters to me.
[Scott] There's never a day that goes by
that I don't miss her. I miss her more than anything,
but I think she was doing what she thought was right
to make sure her child succeeded.
But the obsession with
being in love with each other
drove them to do
one of the darkest things
that I can ever imagine.
[somber music]