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Coexistence is messy.
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Thus, my love for education,
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for my X-Men.
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Their heroism teaches a lesson
we mustn't forget.
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That the universe is very old,
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and all of us, very young.
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Born of ancient stardust,
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and all children of the atom.
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When Disney+ first
came about, I had a great opportunity
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{\an8}to go into Kevin's office
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{\an8}and pitch every wild animated idea
I could think of.
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And the first words out of my mouth were,
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"Revival of the original
X-Men: The Animated Series."
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It was, by far, the most influential show
on me as a kid.
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It holds
such a special place in everyone's heart.
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{\an8}It has made animation fans
of so many people, myself included.
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I remember when
Pizza Hut was doing the promo
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{\an8}for "Night of the Sentinels I and II"
on VHS.
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I wore that thing out.
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That was my introduction to the show,
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and that's where my love
of the characters came from.
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{\an8}It was groundbreaking, and I loved
looking forward to watching it.
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{\an8}X-Men, more than anything,
is my favorite allegory.
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The X-Men have always treated
being different in a realistic way,
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like how would the world
actually react to that?
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{\an8}The X-Men feel grounded,
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they're ground level,
they deal with being persecuted,
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trying to go out
and help people that hate you.
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It weighs on you a lot,
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and we get a chance
to be in those moments with them,
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and how that affects their relationships,
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I think it's all great allegory
for our world now.
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It was a show
that was for kids,
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but it didn't talk down to the audience.
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I think this is a strength
of the comic book,
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as well as the animated series,
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and you can go all the way back
to the earliest comics
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written by Stan Lee,
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to see that the X-Men
made people's feelings of isolation,
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of trauma in their own lives, feel seen,
and it certainly made me feel seen.
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I thought you wanted to be cured.
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That's what I thought, too, Doc,
but there ain't no cure for who you are.
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I loved being able
to see these characters
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{\an8}who really, in one way or another,
saved us as kids.
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{\an8}Whether they became our friends
because we were lonely kids,
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or they taught us,
or they were just the fun heroes
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that we got to check in on on Saturday.
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Okay, hairball, let's talk.
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What I really respected about X-Men
was that it said,
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"Life is hard, and it's gonna be hard,
but you can do it together,
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"you can have a team,
you can find your family,
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"and you can actually make a difference."
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So often in our history,
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unhappy, misguided people
have created scapegoats,
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blaming those that are different
for the problems in their own lives.
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It is an evil in men's hearts
that must be fought.
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The original pitch
was about reviving the series,
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not about rebooting it,
not about remaking it.
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A lot of people will say,
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"It's X-Men: The Animated Series.
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"They're continuing on
with one of my favorite shows,
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"the show that I grew up on,
the show that I'm introducing my kids to.
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"What are they gonna do with it?
Where will they go?"
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And we're those same people.
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Like, everyone making this show
is that fan going,
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"Where do we want to go?
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"If the series had never stopped,
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"if it had continued on,
what other stories would the show tell?"
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I know you cannot bear to see him go,
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but it is the only way.
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Can he ever come back?
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{\an8}From the jump,
it's like that direct continuation,
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that direct lining up with the stories
that they were telling in the '90s,
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and seeing where that can take us,
referencing the comic's lore since then,
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but really tapping into
this nostalgia factor of that series.
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Heads up!
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So much of
the conversation was about
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not just paying homage
to the original style,
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but emulating people's memories
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Oh, my stars and garters.
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We must warn the team.
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And so,
we have Larry Houston, the director,
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who's coming back
as a consulting producer for us,
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as well as the Lewalds, who were
the original showrunners on the series.
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Disney+ began to run
X-Men: The Animated Series,
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{\an8}I want to say in 2019,
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and we were amazed
at the fan response to that,
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but we had not heard that something
was going to happen
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until it really started happening.
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Yeah, they were playing everything
close to the vest,
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and then we got the phone call
and they said,
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"Well, it's happening.
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"We've got a huge staff of excited young,
you know, creative people.
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"Do you two and your friend Larry Houston
want to be involved as consultants?"
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I could not believe
that I was hearing what I was hearing,
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you know, that truly,
calling it X-Men '97,
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because they're picking up
where the original series wrapped,
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amazing and exciting.
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Trask would rather humans and mutants
go to war than work together.
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We all win when men like him fail.
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You sound like Charles.
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He would have been proud today.
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Thank you, Dr. Cooper.
But to be honest, it was a team effort.
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I remember when we first called them
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to let them know
that we were doing the series,
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they told us a story about
having to make the same call to Stan Lee
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when they did the original series.
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And just like Stan told them,
they told us that they have our back
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and to make them proud.
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I know I've been hard-headed lately,
it's just...
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I didn't know how the X-Men
could go on without the Professor.
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Thought it was on me.
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But his dream doesn't need me.
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It has all of you.
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{\an8}My superhero world started with mythology,
Greek mythology, Egyptology.
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The literature I read,
basically all fantasy.
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Then I discovered comics.
I cannot remember exactly when,
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but my first comic was Iron Man,
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and then I got X-Men,
Spider-Man, all of them.
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I started reading them like crazy,
and as an only child,
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I was the ultimate mutant.
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I went to school
in Hofstra in Long Island,
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and I became...
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a very successful toy inventor.
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And the first toy
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that I wanted to turn into a show
was X-Men,
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and I felt...
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if I take something that exciting,
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kids wouldn't feel
that they're the only one like them.
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{\an8}So I'm pitching X-Men,
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{\an8}and Stan Lee is with me
in many of these meetings,
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and no one got it.
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They tried all during the '80s
to get X-Men on television,
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and nobody in Hollywood
thought it would be successful.
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"Oh, superheroes, you can't make
a successful TV show around them."
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So it was this non-starter.
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Sounds like just another day
that ends in "y" when you put it that way.
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Precisely. And we face it
as we always have.
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As a family.
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{\an8}When we were at Marvel Productions
in the mid-'80s,
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I had two supervisors.
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One was Stan Lee,
the other one was Margaret Loesch.
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Margaret Loesch always believed
in the concept of The X-Men.
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So fast forward about six years,
she became the CEO of Fox Kids Network.
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She had the power to greenlit stuff now.
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So she called up me, Will Meugniot,
Eric, Julia, and some others,
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said, "Okay, we're gonna do The X-Men.
Gonna put it on the air."
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And she's like
the secret superhero nobody knows about.
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Do you hear that applause?
They love you, guys.
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Stick with me and you, X-Men,
will be stars.
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The folks above her didn't believe
X-Men was gonna do anything.
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And it was, "Okay, we'll give you
13 episodes, but that's it.
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"And if this fails, you're out of a job."
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She goes, "Okay, I'll take that risk."
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You were hired to do 13 episodes,
one season,
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and I got to be a writer on that season.
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But after 13 episodes,
we were all let go.
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The entire creative staff
was let go in July, August,
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when we'd finished our work.
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And then in January, it premiered,
and suddenly it was this number one hit.
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If ratings don't go up with every show,
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I'll cancel the series
and its performers permanently.
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Control room!
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It's showtime!
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So we were working in other places,
and we had the call saying,
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"Um... We really want you to come back
for another season."
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And about half of us could.
Some of them couldn't.
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They came back as quick as they could.
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The ratings are going through the roof!
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At the time, we were not aware
of how popular the show was.
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There was no Internet, you know,
none of that stuff.
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We just had ratings. That's all we had.
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And so, the first season was actually
the most important season for us,
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because we had to get the highest ratings
to keep the show on the air.
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And so, we were lucky
to get that second season.
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But, you know,
we were hanging on like a cat,
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you know that picture
with the cat hanging on,
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we were like that because we had no idea.
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We were not aware
of what's going on out in the world
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{\an8}with folks watching this
and falling in love with it,
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until Julia asked a friend of ours there,
Charlotte Fullerton, about,
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"Do you get any fan mail on this show?
Is it doing okay?"
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I happened to show up at Fox Studios
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and asked her,
you know, "What's the feedback?"
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Because, again, the ratings
we knew were amazing,
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but, "Are you getting any response?"
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And she took me into a hallway,
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and those big, milky USPS mail cartons
that you see mailmen carry,
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there was one on the ground,
and it was full,
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and it was stacked and it was full.
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- With fan mail.
- Stacked all down the hall and back.
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Floor to ceiling, stacked.
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{\an8}And she goes, "Every one of those,
it's the kid for X-Men."
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Parents loved it.
Parents sent thank-yous.
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"My child's life changed.
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"He realized he's not alone.
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"There are others like him."
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And I used to go talk to...
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For promotional purposes,
I said, "We are all like that."
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And I think the best evidence of it
was X-Men.
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Back in the '90s, it's either Scooby-Doo
or Super Friends, that was the standard.
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{\an8}So, we wanted to make sure that when kids
saw "Night of the Sentinels I and II,"
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{\an8}they could tell this is not the usual
show that they're used to.
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This is different.
This is going to stand out.
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Did you see what she did?
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Yes, Rogue has a way with men.
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What we were doing is like,
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"You're going to kill a character off
in the first episode.
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"You got a girl being chased by a robot."
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Stand aside. I must apprehend that mutant.
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We did that deliberately
so that people would,
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"Wow, what's this?
What's going to happen next?"
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We wanted to pull them into the show
and make it a must-see show every week.
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Life don't get much better than this.
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We all knew that there's something
in our stories that is like a mission,
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and you feel it, so that you just
cannot wait to get to the next chapter.
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I still remember rushing home
after school to watch each new episode,
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{\an8}and I think it was the first serialized
piece of entertainment I had ever watched.
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{\an8}It was the first time I remember
there being, like, cliffhangers
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{\an8}at the end of every episode,
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{\an8}and that amazing feeling you had
when anything was a "to be continued"
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{\an8}happened every single day on that show.
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{\an8}It was my gateway into comics.
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I'd watch that original series
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and then immediately want to go
to the comic store
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and see what was going on,
not just with X-Men,
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{\an8}but every comic book on the shelf.
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{\an8}And as I became a filmmaker
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{\an8}and started meeting
with writers and directors,
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so often you would hear that show come up
as a seminal work in their lives,
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and you could see that the love of comics
for people that grew up in the '90s
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was in large part
due to that series in particular.
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We have accomplished
a great victory this day.
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I think the '90s aesthetic
is something that is so intrinsically tied
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to those designs that they used,
but also how that show feels.
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It just feels of that era.
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We're looking to do
the same things that they were.
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Yo, Cyclops. Hit me.
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Using the proportions
of those really muscular,
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{\an8}you know, iconic characters, not diverging
from the really comic-accurate look.
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{\an8}You know, the Jim Lee stuff
was their North Star
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in designing that series,
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{\an8}and I think we're trying to use that
as our North Star as well.
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The comics designs
obviously had much more detail
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and much more evocative line work.
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It's the tangibility of the world.
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I mean, it felt like comic pages
were moving.
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The high contrast, black shadows,
I mean, they went for it.
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It just gave it more life.
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They didn't streamline any of the designs.
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Like, look at Storm's hair.
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You know, it's crazy.
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There's many little wisps,
but they're tracking all that,
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and that's what made it so unique.
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I love that aesthetic.
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It fills me with
an immense sense of nostalgia,
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and it feels like a celebration to me.
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What a kick! Can we do it again?
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Animation has
just come leaps and bounds,
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not only with the technology,
but also with the styles.
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Not just animation style,
whether it's 2D or CG,
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but also in how animation
is approached with directing.
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Emi and Chase are the episodic directors,
which means they did every other episode.
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Jake set up the directing style
with the first episode,
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and then they followed suit.
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For me, it was a discussion
of, where do we go tonally?
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Because there are things
in the original series
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that you might see as cheesy,
but actually aren't.
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Maybe that was a budget.
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I mean, you watch it now, and you can see
recycled animation, and you can tell,
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"They just didn't have the means
to go back in with retakes."
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And we've actually spoken with Larry
about that since.
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You know, I only had so much time,
so it was like, I had to get it done.
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Now that we have that ability,
and we can put that budget behind it,
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how do we then go,
"Okay, so then what is this show?"
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Because is it just the visuals?
Is it just the storytelling?
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And I think what we all
ended up deciding on,
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I just want the audience to feel
the same way we felt watching it as kids.
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Rogue always come to Gambit's rescue.
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I've always wanted to make content
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that was as potent
as the stuff that inspired me,
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because we all stand on the shoulders
of the people prior to us, right?
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Never thought to ask the Professor
to show me how he did what he did so well.
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Some lessons are taught, Scott.
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Others are learned.
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We're all huge X-Men fans,
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and we wanted to see them elevated.
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And it forces us to be creative.
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It forces us to figure out, "Okay,
what's the clearest way to say this?"
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What's the most impactful thing
that we can do here,
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especially when it comes to action?
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Because we would like to embellish
on all of that stuff.
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How can we make every little piece
of action on screen as potent as possible?
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Animation is being
pushed so much.
295
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The bar is being raised so high.
296
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So how do we still stay relevant
and stay on that bar,
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but keep that nostalgic feel?
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Man, talk about simpler times.
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It's unreal.
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We should probably find a way out of here.
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What's the rush?
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These levels are taking me back.
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We're set in '97.
We are essentially a period piece.
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What was being done in cinema
between '96 and '98?
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How was live action being shot?
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How were things being animated?
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What was TV animation doing?
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What lenses were being used?
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What was considered cinematic at the time?
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What was considered groundbreaking
at the time?
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It's great to have those '90s tropes
in our back pocket,
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because that is just a fundamental,
tactile feel in the DNA of the OG show.
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While the idea of cell-drawn animation
with flat backgrounds
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kept you to a very flat frame,
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we are honoring that
almost 80% of the time.
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But one thing that makes it X-Men '97
and not X-Men: The Animated Series
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is that we are blowing past that at times
for emotional effect.
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So big crescendo moments
in battles and in fight scenes,
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and even in some
of our bigger emotional scenes,
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push past that flat plane
into a more three-dimensional space.
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And that's something
that our studio partner, Studio Mir,
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who produce a lot of anime,
really allows us to do effectively.
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What was done at the time
was the top of that animation scale,
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was the top of the action
and what was available
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and what could be done at the time.
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And our responsibility now
is to do the same, to do the top.
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Like, that's how high the bar is.
328
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We were able to look at
the footage in this thing called DI.
329
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It's a really cool post process
where we get to throw a filter on it.
330
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{\an8}We were thinking about a film filter
to make it look closer to '90s film.
331
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{\an8}So you get a little bit of that jitter
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{\an8}that you would have
from the film processing.
333
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{\an8}You get noise grain, film processing
makes the blacks pop out even harder.
334
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I'm cool with rack focusing a bit more
335
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just to go a little more cinematic,
lean into the era of it all.
336
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And we also have to put it
to widescreen format, right?
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So we got to make it more cinematic.
338
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Look-y ahead.
339
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Ki-yay!
340
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They be busy doing a bit of renovating
since Gambit's last visit.
341
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We wanted to make sure
we were honoring the Lewalds and Larry,
342
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and the work that they had set down,
that it was never going to be about,
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"Well, that was cheesy,
so how cheesy can we go?"
344
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More like, "No, you guys were actually
building something incredibly beautiful.
345
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"Look at how much it affected
a whole generation of people."
346
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And to carry that torch
is not only a lot of responsibility,
347
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but we're actually excited for that.
348
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I can't wait. I want to bring honor
to these characters.
349
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Well, if being an X-Man
teaches anything, Ms. Tilby,
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it's to expect the unexpected.
351
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One of the most important aspects
to the series is the music.
352
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When you hear that rendition
of the opening title,
353
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what's amazing is not that it sounds new,
354
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but that it sounds
like it really celebrates
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and props up what was beautiful
about that original music.
356
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In terms of ID'ing a show,
I mean, it's so important.
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I mean, I grew up in the '60s
and there's a lot of shows
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that all you had to do
is hear two or three notes
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and you know what it is.
360
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And so we knew that for The X-Men,
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we need to have something that was
very distinctive and strong and driving.
362
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Back in the '90s, I was given like,
I think, what, a weekend,
363
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like two or three days to draw the intro.
364
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And the intro is going
to be about a minute,
365
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a minute and four seconds.
366
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I drew two minutes.
367
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I just let the fanboy roll out of my head.
368
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I just started drawing images
and just let stuff pour out.
369
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And once I got it done and finished,
370
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then we went back
and just took the two minutes
371
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and culled it down to just one minute,
the one what everybody knows right now.
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My storyboard was actually done
before the music.
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And so, once we got that done,
the next part was trying to get the music
374
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that was driving
to try and match the high pace.
375
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{\an8}And if my memory serves me right,
376
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{\an8}I think it was, like, maybe
the 13th version of the music
377
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until we said, "Yeah, that's it."
378
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Because the first 12 was like, no.
379
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It didn't have the punch.
It didn't have the excitement.
380
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And so, it took time
and then it magically merged together
381
00:19:00,222 --> 00:19:01,849
and everything worked out just fine.
382
00:19:14,444 --> 00:19:16,780
The OG show
leaned into the prejudice.
383
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It didn't shy away from it,
but it also didn't dumb it down
384
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or treat the audience like a kid.
385
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It just told stories.
386
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It told the stories
and it had a greater story to tell.
387
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For us to be a successor,
we got to carry that DNA in.
388
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Your heart may beat for me,
389
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but I can't feel it.
390
00:19:36,175 --> 00:19:39,428
You light up everything you touch,
391
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but never me.
392
00:19:44,808 --> 00:19:47,978
Every story we tell in the show
is born out of a human drive,
393
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out of the characters showing the writers
where to take them.
394
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They're following those relationships.
395
00:19:54,526 --> 00:19:57,487
And it's really about driving
at the human heart.
396
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The world around these characters
might be chaos,
397
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but their humanity, their soul,
their internal feelings
398
00:20:06,997 --> 00:20:09,750
and love for one another
is what's going to see them through.
399
00:20:09,750 --> 00:20:11,585
Right now, we have to be strong.
400
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For the team.
401
00:20:12,669 --> 00:20:15,714
{\an8}For every mutant still out there
who's watching these images.
402
00:20:15,714 --> 00:20:17,382
{\an8}They need hope.
403
00:20:18,175 --> 00:20:19,968
{\an8}It's what the Professor would do.
404
00:20:19,968 --> 00:20:21,303
{\an8}Then let's go remind the world
405
00:20:21,303 --> 00:20:24,056
{\an8}that times like these
are when dreaming matters most.
406
00:20:27,392 --> 00:20:30,145
Our number one priority was to bring on
407
00:20:30,145 --> 00:20:34,399
as many of the original cast members
as we possibly could.
408
00:20:34,983 --> 00:20:37,611
Back then,
we wanted to elevate the storytelling.
409
00:20:37,611 --> 00:20:39,571
So one of the things that we did
410
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was we auditioned people
who did stage plays
411
00:20:42,449 --> 00:20:44,243
as opposed to voice actors
412
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who work just in, you know,
Saturday morning cartoon media,
413
00:20:47,162 --> 00:20:48,622
because we wanted to get actors
414
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who have a range of inflections
in how they act,
415
00:20:52,251 --> 00:20:54,628
and they didn't sound
like everybody else out there.
416
00:20:54,628 --> 00:20:57,798
I think it helped add to the character
and quality of the show
417
00:20:57,798 --> 00:20:59,883
because they brought
the characters to life.
418
00:20:59,883 --> 00:21:02,594
Don't you ever get tired
of listening to yourself?
419
00:21:02,594 --> 00:21:05,222
Not when I'm talking about you, chère.
420
00:21:12,354 --> 00:21:13,438
{\an8}I had no clue
421
00:21:13,438 --> 00:21:15,983
{\an8}about the X-Men at the time.
422
00:21:15,983 --> 00:21:19,653
{\an8}I had never heard of the X-Men.
I don't think any of us had,
423
00:21:19,653 --> 00:21:20,988
{\an8}except George Buza.
424
00:21:20,988 --> 00:21:24,074
{\an8}They didn't tell us the title of the show
that we were going to read for.
425
00:21:24,074 --> 00:21:27,536
{\an8}They said, "Project X."
And I'm reading and I'm reading.
426
00:21:28,203 --> 00:21:29,871
{\an8}And I said, "This is X-Men."
427
00:21:29,871 --> 00:21:33,583
So strange, and yet so familiar.
428
00:21:33,583 --> 00:21:36,420
I used to buy a lot of comic books
when I was a kid.
429
00:21:36,420 --> 00:21:40,257
And I remember
when the first X-Men comic book came out.
430
00:21:40,757 --> 00:21:42,384
And I saw it on the newsstand.
431
00:21:42,884 --> 00:21:44,261
And I do remember reading it.
432
00:21:44,761 --> 00:21:48,056
And I knew right off the bat
that I was auditioning for X-Men.
433
00:21:48,056 --> 00:21:50,809
It appears to be a deliberate trail.
434
00:21:50,809 --> 00:21:53,228
I might as well have
gone and auditioned for Star Wars.
435
00:21:53,228 --> 00:21:54,521
To be a part of that,
436
00:21:55,188 --> 00:21:58,191
at that stage of my career,
was a real high point.
437
00:21:58,608 --> 00:22:00,610
You are a work of art.
438
00:22:03,572 --> 00:22:07,743
{\an8}The majority of us
had done quite a bit of theater
439
00:22:07,743 --> 00:22:09,328
{\an8}coming into the '90s.
440
00:22:09,328 --> 00:22:11,913
I was a serious actor, you know.
441
00:22:11,913 --> 00:22:14,499
I did movies, television, theater,
442
00:22:15,042 --> 00:22:16,710
a radio drama.
443
00:22:16,710 --> 00:22:18,837
I was not doing voiceovers,
I was a singer.
444
00:22:18,837 --> 00:22:20,839
I was doing jingles my whole life
445
00:22:20,839 --> 00:22:23,091
in the city of Toronto
and flying to New York,
446
00:22:23,091 --> 00:22:24,760
flying to Chicago, whatever, to sing.
447
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,262
{\an8}My background is very much
448
00:22:27,262 --> 00:22:28,597
{\an8}the theater.
449
00:22:28,597 --> 00:22:30,599
I'd done
a couple of voice things
450
00:22:30,599 --> 00:22:31,850
{\an8}for commercials and stuff.
451
00:22:31,850 --> 00:22:35,896
{\an8}But my very first animated audition ever
452
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was this character.
453
00:22:37,022 --> 00:22:41,026
My agent at the time
was here in Toronto, said,
454
00:22:41,026 --> 00:22:43,528
"Lenore, I want you to go in
for this new series.
455
00:22:43,528 --> 00:22:48,992
"They're looking for a sexy, husky voice
with a Southern accent."
456
00:22:48,992 --> 00:22:52,829
And I'd played a lot of Southerners
in movies and television by that time.
457
00:22:52,829 --> 00:22:55,207
But I didn't go to the first auditions.
458
00:22:55,707 --> 00:22:57,751
I just wasn't that interested.
459
00:22:57,751 --> 00:23:00,712
You've given us a place
where we belong, Professor.
460
00:23:00,712 --> 00:23:04,007
Just takes us hard-headed ones
longer to realize it.
461
00:23:04,007 --> 00:23:07,052
So then, a few months go by
and they had callbacks.
462
00:23:07,052 --> 00:23:12,891
And she said, "Lenore, they haven't found
the right actress yet for this part
463
00:23:12,891 --> 00:23:14,142
"because it's you.
464
00:23:14,142 --> 00:23:16,686
"So get your ass in gear and go."
465
00:23:16,686 --> 00:23:18,105
So I did.
466
00:23:18,688 --> 00:23:22,150
And I walked into the studio,
put the headphones on.
467
00:23:22,150 --> 00:23:23,985
The producers were in LA.
468
00:23:23,985 --> 00:23:25,946
I took a look at the picture
of the character,
469
00:23:25,946 --> 00:23:27,864
I was like, "Yeah, hell yeah,
I can do that."
470
00:23:27,864 --> 00:23:31,493
And then I just opened up my mouth
and basically said,
471
00:23:32,077 --> 00:23:33,995
"You know, my daddy'd like to kill himself
472
00:23:33,995 --> 00:23:36,289
"when he found out I was a mutant."
473
00:23:36,289 --> 00:23:37,499
You know?
474
00:23:37,499 --> 00:23:40,794
And I heard all these screams
and yells and everything.
475
00:23:40,794 --> 00:23:43,422
They're like, "Don't let her
leave the building.
476
00:23:43,422 --> 00:23:44,881
"That's her. That's Rogue."
477
00:23:44,881 --> 00:23:47,634
This is going to be more satisfying
than I thought.
478
00:23:47,634 --> 00:23:50,512
Once we heard the audition,
we said, "Okay, that's it. We got it."
479
00:23:50,512 --> 00:23:52,514
It was the same with Wolverine.
480
00:23:52,514 --> 00:23:54,266
This one's mine.
481
00:23:55,308 --> 00:23:57,185
I went in and they showed me
a picture of him.
482
00:23:57,185 --> 00:23:59,813
{\an8}They explained who he was and stuff,
that he was Canadian.
483
00:23:59,813 --> 00:24:00,939
I said, "That's good."
484
00:24:00,939 --> 00:24:04,609
The first line was like, "All right,
you egg-sucking piece of gutter trash.
485
00:24:05,110 --> 00:24:07,737
"You always did like picking
on people shorter than you.
486
00:24:07,737 --> 00:24:09,990
"Well, I'm shorter. Pick on me."
487
00:24:11,324 --> 00:24:13,952
They just went, "Oh, gosh,
give him some more lines."
488
00:24:14,453 --> 00:24:17,372
So, it just happened like that.
It was like it was meant to be.
489
00:24:17,372 --> 00:24:20,250
Just call me Wolverine.
490
00:24:21,626 --> 00:24:23,211
Wolverine.
491
00:24:23,211 --> 00:24:25,005
So impulsive.
492
00:24:25,005 --> 00:24:28,049
I identified with Hank right off the bat.
493
00:24:28,049 --> 00:24:31,428
{\an8}When I was a kid in school, I got bullied.
494
00:24:31,428 --> 00:24:33,263
I was a big kid. I was overweight.
495
00:24:33,263 --> 00:24:35,765
I got into quite a few beefs
on the schoolyard,
496
00:24:36,266 --> 00:24:39,352
and it was there that I learned
that even though I'm big,
497
00:24:39,352 --> 00:24:43,857
if you retaliate,
you will be the one who they blame.
498
00:24:44,483 --> 00:24:46,318
So think before you act
499
00:24:46,318 --> 00:24:49,070
and try and defuse a situation
and walk away.
500
00:24:49,571 --> 00:24:50,822
And this is what Hank does.
501
00:24:50,822 --> 00:24:55,160
They must see that we are not a threat
to mankind, but are a part of it.
502
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,914
He won't resort
to his abilities, his superpowers
503
00:24:59,414 --> 00:25:01,917
unless there's absolutely
no other recourse.
504
00:25:01,917 --> 00:25:05,170
He will try and talk
and reason his way out of a situation
505
00:25:05,170 --> 00:25:06,838
before he will use violence.
506
00:25:07,297 --> 00:25:08,423
But then when he does,
507
00:25:08,965 --> 00:25:09,966
watch out.
508
00:25:13,303 --> 00:25:17,724
I summon the full power of the storm!
509
00:25:17,724 --> 00:25:22,687
I had gotten this audition
for my very first animation,
510
00:25:22,687 --> 00:25:24,564
and I was out in Stratford,
511
00:25:25,065 --> 00:25:26,858
and I was doing Shakespeare.
512
00:25:27,609 --> 00:25:31,279
And I really only had one day
that I could come into the city.
513
00:25:31,279 --> 00:25:33,198
Everything was very rushed.
514
00:25:33,198 --> 00:25:37,327
And so, I'm looking
to hold on to why I'm there
515
00:25:37,327 --> 00:25:40,580
and what can I possibly
bring to this audition?
516
00:25:40,580 --> 00:25:42,624
And then they said that she was a queen.
517
00:25:42,624 --> 00:25:45,502
And I went, "Okay,
I don't know a whole lot about her,
518
00:25:46,002 --> 00:25:47,087
"but I can do queen."
519
00:25:47,087 --> 00:25:49,381
I must keep my emotions in check,
520
00:25:49,923 --> 00:25:52,676
lest my powers rage out of control.
521
00:25:52,676 --> 00:25:56,471
She played right
into my very natural strengths.
522
00:25:56,471 --> 00:25:58,098
I've never been a subtle actress.
523
00:25:58,890 --> 00:26:01,393
You know, I do it big.
Go big or go home.
524
00:26:01,393 --> 00:26:04,771
I am free!
525
00:26:08,358 --> 00:26:09,651
I'm fond of the Nightcrawler.
526
00:26:10,318 --> 00:26:12,779
Our time together meant a great deal
to both of us.
527
00:26:12,779 --> 00:26:14,364
I just remember they called me in,
528
00:26:14,364 --> 00:26:17,534
and there was this moment of...
529
00:26:18,618 --> 00:26:20,328
landing in the part.
530
00:26:20,328 --> 00:26:24,165
And he was both passionate,
but yet spiritual.
531
00:26:24,165 --> 00:26:26,626
There's something gentle about him,
but also fierce.
532
00:26:26,626 --> 00:26:29,796
I remember finishing the read,
and there was this pause.
533
00:26:30,297 --> 00:26:33,883
And I looked over into the booth
at Dan Hennessey, who was the director,
534
00:26:33,883 --> 00:26:35,802
and he paused, and looked at me,
and he goes,
535
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,388
"He's a very passionate guy, isn't he?"
536
00:26:38,888 --> 00:26:40,390
And I was like, "Yeah.
537
00:26:41,349 --> 00:26:43,018
"Do you want to do it again?" "Sure."
538
00:26:43,018 --> 00:26:46,062
And so that was
my very first animated audition.
539
00:26:46,062 --> 00:26:49,649
And there was something about the script,
the complexity of the character,
540
00:26:49,649 --> 00:26:51,776
which just brought it out of me.
541
00:26:51,776 --> 00:26:53,236
I am overwhelmed.
542
00:26:53,236 --> 00:26:55,905
You X-Men
are experienced with such things.
543
00:26:55,905 --> 00:26:57,782
You've come
to the right place, honey.
544
00:27:01,202 --> 00:27:03,079
When we first started the series,
545
00:27:03,079 --> 00:27:08,251
we recorded together possibly six
of us in the studio at a time.
546
00:27:08,251 --> 00:27:12,589
What they found is there was
too much spill happening between mics,
547
00:27:13,423 --> 00:27:16,468
not to mention that we could barely
get the scenes done
548
00:27:16,468 --> 00:27:18,094
because we were laughing so hard.
549
00:27:19,012 --> 00:27:24,142
Not at the script, just at the goofs
in the room that were so talented.
550
00:27:24,142 --> 00:27:27,270
He better be more careful with his mouth.
551
00:27:27,270 --> 00:27:29,731
You better stop worrying about my mouth,
552
00:27:30,273 --> 00:27:32,442
and start worrying about these.
553
00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:37,280
I mean, I just remember my first day
in the studio, there was Cal Dodd,
554
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,033
there was Lenore Zann,
and it was pretty wild.
555
00:27:40,033 --> 00:27:41,493
I saw Cal Dodd
556
00:27:42,535 --> 00:27:44,996
hunch his shoulders up and make fists,
557
00:27:44,996 --> 00:27:47,499
and then suddenly his name dropped
into the voice and said,
558
00:27:47,499 --> 00:27:49,709
"Listen here, bub."
And I was like, "Oh, okay."
559
00:27:49,709 --> 00:27:53,421
It really taught me
that doing animated voices
560
00:27:53,421 --> 00:27:56,049
is not just standing
in front of a mic not moving.
561
00:27:56,049 --> 00:27:58,718
There's actually, like,
full body expression involved.
562
00:27:58,718 --> 00:28:01,304
You cannot conceive, nor can I,
563
00:28:01,304 --> 00:28:04,391
the appalling strangeness
of the mercy of God.
564
00:28:04,391 --> 00:28:06,643
You were pulling punches
on the dock today.
565
00:28:07,519 --> 00:28:11,147
When we go up there,
if you want to end it, and end it fast,
566
00:28:11,690 --> 00:28:13,817
hit, and hit to kill.
567
00:28:14,317 --> 00:28:16,861
I just interrupt everybody
because I'm Wolverine.
568
00:28:16,861 --> 00:28:19,447
Rogue would be in the middle of something
really important,
569
00:28:19,447 --> 00:28:22,617
and I'll say,
"Are you just about finished?
570
00:28:23,785 --> 00:28:26,204
"There are other people here
that have to talk, too."
571
00:28:26,204 --> 00:28:27,997
Stuff the philosophy.
572
00:28:28,873 --> 00:28:30,709
Let's go kick his butt.
573
00:28:30,709 --> 00:28:32,919
At one point, they were turning off
my microphone.
574
00:28:32,919 --> 00:28:35,880
I said, "Don't you do that.
Leave that on, because this'll be good."
575
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,800
I go where I wanna go.
576
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,301
It was magical.
577
00:28:40,301 --> 00:28:44,764
It was a really magical chemistry
that we all had.
578
00:28:44,764 --> 00:28:47,434
Eventually, they split us up,
579
00:28:47,434 --> 00:28:51,020
and yet we would all use the same studio,
so we'd see each other coming and going.
580
00:28:51,771 --> 00:28:53,314
Everybody else had different jobs.
581
00:28:53,314 --> 00:28:56,025
Very few people do strictly voice.
582
00:28:56,025 --> 00:28:58,361
At the time we were doing
the first couple of seasons,
583
00:28:58,361 --> 00:29:01,406
I was on another series
just around the corner from the here,
584
00:29:01,406 --> 00:29:04,409
on Maniac Mansion,
which was a George Lucas thing.
585
00:29:04,409 --> 00:29:08,246
I was doing Shakespeare
when I auditioned for this.
586
00:29:08,246 --> 00:29:11,791
For the whole first season,
I was in Stratford.
587
00:29:11,791 --> 00:29:14,586
I had shows every night.
588
00:29:14,586 --> 00:29:16,337
Monday was our dark day,
589
00:29:16,337 --> 00:29:20,467
and so, every Monday,
I got in my car bright and early
590
00:29:20,467 --> 00:29:23,303
and came down and recorded X-Men.
591
00:29:23,803 --> 00:29:27,849
Rise, fog,
and divert your enemy from her path.
592
00:29:28,433 --> 00:29:31,352
Storm, your master, commands.
593
00:29:31,352 --> 00:29:34,773
Back then, I was doing Kung Fu
with David Carradine,
594
00:29:34,773 --> 00:29:36,775
and it was a two-hander, more or less,
595
00:29:36,775 --> 00:29:40,153
so I was working 12, 14-hour days on that,
596
00:29:40,153 --> 00:29:43,740
and I would do The X-Men
literally on my lunch hour
597
00:29:43,740 --> 00:29:47,327
or in a break that I had that was
like lunch throughout the day.
598
00:29:47,327 --> 00:29:48,620
Relax, Cyclops.
599
00:29:49,204 --> 00:29:52,290
All work and no play
make Jacques a dull boy.
600
00:29:52,290 --> 00:29:56,795
I'd have to drive from
the studio down to do The X-Men,
601
00:29:56,795 --> 00:30:01,174
but not knowing
that it was actually becoming a hit.
602
00:30:09,641 --> 00:30:11,810
I think it was just the word of mouth,
603
00:30:11,810 --> 00:30:15,688
{\an8}and we just heard gradually
that people were watching it
604
00:30:15,688 --> 00:30:21,277
and fans that normally might not be
into that type of animation
605
00:30:21,277 --> 00:30:24,280
and that storyline are talking about it.
606
00:30:24,781 --> 00:30:26,491
You don't know what you've done.
607
00:30:26,491 --> 00:30:28,701
You ain't seen nothing yet.
608
00:30:28,701 --> 00:30:31,621
You know,
the characters are now iconic,
609
00:30:31,621 --> 00:30:34,457
but at the time, they were just, you know,
610
00:30:34,457 --> 00:30:37,836
these fascinating, complex characters
611
00:30:37,836 --> 00:30:40,797
with some really interesting dialogue,
612
00:30:41,381 --> 00:30:42,882
dialogue with depth
613
00:30:42,882 --> 00:30:47,136
that you wouldn't expect
from a weekly cartoon.
614
00:30:47,136 --> 00:30:52,809
The Phoenix was a mythical bird
that was consumed by fire,
615
00:30:52,809 --> 00:30:56,771
but always rose again from the ashes.
616
00:30:56,771 --> 00:30:59,399
Perhaps that's what
the Phoenix represents.
617
00:31:00,275 --> 00:31:02,277
Hope, which never dies.
618
00:31:02,277 --> 00:31:03,778
When it was over after five years,
619
00:31:03,778 --> 00:31:05,989
I was like, I didn't know
what to do with myself.
620
00:31:06,656 --> 00:31:08,741
No more going to the studio to do him.
621
00:31:09,450 --> 00:31:12,328
Does he just fall off
the face of the earth? What's going on?
622
00:31:12,328 --> 00:31:13,746
I really missed him because
623
00:31:14,497 --> 00:31:15,874
he's me.
624
00:31:15,874 --> 00:31:18,293
This busted mug
ain't changed in a hundred years,
625
00:31:18,293 --> 00:31:19,419
and you know it.
626
00:31:19,419 --> 00:31:21,796
So it was so great to get back in him.
627
00:31:22,338 --> 00:31:27,302
Well, Magneto ain't gonna change his mind
just because we say "please."
628
00:31:27,886 --> 00:31:30,179
The man just declared war
on the whole planet.
629
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,599
His day ends one way.
630
00:31:34,183 --> 00:31:36,561
We were all gung-ho.
There's no question about it.
631
00:31:36,561 --> 00:31:40,231
I don't think there's a single person
that said, "I don't know.
632
00:31:40,231 --> 00:31:41,900
"Why would we want to do this?"
633
00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:44,152
We went, "Oh, yes, absolutely. Let's go."
634
00:31:44,152 --> 00:31:46,446
It's been too long, my friend.
635
00:31:46,446 --> 00:31:50,366
You know, what's really cool
is that it's the same studio
636
00:31:50,366 --> 00:31:55,121
that we recorded The X-Men in,
in the '90s.
637
00:31:55,705 --> 00:32:00,376
I am Storm, mistress of the elements.
638
00:32:00,376 --> 00:32:03,212
I value it
in a completely different way.
639
00:32:03,212 --> 00:32:07,258
And the time that I spend in the studio,
640
00:32:07,258 --> 00:32:10,887
I appreciate and love it so much more.
641
00:32:10,887 --> 00:32:14,974
Surrender the boy or face my fury.
642
00:32:14,974 --> 00:32:18,811
I love this stuff.
I love this character. I love this show.
643
00:32:18,811 --> 00:32:20,897
Let them thunder,
644
00:32:21,731 --> 00:32:24,567
for I am lightning!
645
00:32:24,567 --> 00:32:26,361
I did go back and revisit the show
646
00:32:26,361 --> 00:32:29,739
because I wanted to, you know,
make sure that I was going to be true
647
00:32:29,739 --> 00:32:31,783
to the character
that was created years ago.
648
00:32:31,783 --> 00:32:35,119
I just remember it just literally
all came flooding back to me.
649
00:32:35,119 --> 00:32:37,580
None of you were there
the day Genosha fell.
650
00:32:38,414 --> 00:32:40,333
Who dies next, Professor?
651
00:32:40,333 --> 00:32:42,627
Jean? Been there, done that.
652
00:32:42,627 --> 00:32:46,172
{\an8}I watched a couple of the episodes,
like "A Rogue's Tale,"
653
00:32:47,215 --> 00:32:50,718
you know, and my voice
is naturally there anyway.
654
00:32:50,718 --> 00:32:53,388
And so it just came back really quickly.
655
00:32:53,388 --> 00:32:57,392
And then when I walked in the studio
the very first time,
656
00:32:57,934 --> 00:33:02,230
I was a little nervous 'cause I was like,
"Oh, my God. Do I still have it?"
657
00:33:02,814 --> 00:33:06,693
And within two seconds, really,
of opening up my mouth
658
00:33:06,693 --> 00:33:08,653
and saying the first couple of lines,
659
00:33:08,653 --> 00:33:10,905
I was like, "Yeah."
660
00:33:10,905 --> 00:33:16,577
It's like a well-worn leather jacket
that you just slip in and away you go.
661
00:33:16,577 --> 00:33:19,789
You went slower
than snails in maple syrup.
662
00:33:19,789 --> 00:33:23,710
I reckon we nab him now
before our mystery boys move him again.
663
00:33:23,710 --> 00:33:28,089
It's so funny how my lines
stick in my head.
664
00:33:28,089 --> 00:33:30,717
Some of the best lines
that I've had, you know, like,
665
00:33:31,217 --> 00:33:33,428
"You look about as nervous
as a long-tailed cat
666
00:33:33,428 --> 00:33:34,971
"in a room full of rocking chairs."
667
00:33:34,971 --> 00:33:37,223
And yet, here you are,
668
00:33:37,724 --> 00:33:40,435
dragged in like a kitty cat's prize.
669
00:33:42,937 --> 00:33:45,023
Cable?
- Huh
670
00:33:45,023 --> 00:33:47,817
Chris Potter, who played Gambit
in the original series...
671
00:33:47,817 --> 00:33:49,861
Everyone can relax.
672
00:33:51,029 --> 00:33:52,822
Gambit has returned.
673
00:33:52,822 --> 00:33:56,492
...is actually voicing the role of Cable,
who's a massive part of the season.
674
00:33:56,492 --> 00:33:58,494
I know all I need to know.
675
00:33:58,494 --> 00:34:00,705
That machine killed my mother.
676
00:34:00,705 --> 00:34:03,833
We need to make sure
he doesn't do the same to anyone else.
677
00:34:03,833 --> 00:34:07,086
A couple centuries late
on the overprotective dad bit, huh?
678
00:34:07,086 --> 00:34:08,296
Both of you, stop it!
679
00:34:08,296 --> 00:34:11,758
I'm going to miss Gambit,
but I'm loving doing Cable.
680
00:34:11,758 --> 00:34:14,927
I'm so excited
about where we're headed with this.
681
00:34:15,803 --> 00:34:18,765
Am I going to war or a circus?
682
00:34:18,765 --> 00:34:21,184
What'd you expect? Black leather?
683
00:34:21,684 --> 00:34:23,686
There's also
a lot of great newcomers
684
00:34:23,686 --> 00:34:25,605
who are bringing new characters to life
685
00:34:25,605 --> 00:34:29,025
and who are giving us new takes
on the characters from the original show.
686
00:34:29,025 --> 00:34:31,694
The name's Gambit. Remember it.
687
00:34:31,694 --> 00:34:32,779
{\an8}For this show,
688
00:34:32,779 --> 00:34:38,451
{\an8}I got a weird laundry list
of just characters, all with fake names.
689
00:34:38,451 --> 00:34:40,995
I think Gambit
was, like, Johnny or something.
690
00:34:40,995 --> 00:34:44,248
And the reference
was Chris Potter as Gambit.
691
00:34:44,248 --> 00:34:45,666
And I was like, "Hold on."
692
00:34:45,666 --> 00:34:48,127
Then I looked through all the female
and male reference.
693
00:34:48,127 --> 00:34:50,296
I was like, "Okay, this is X-Men."
694
00:34:50,296 --> 00:34:52,632
So I kind of freaked out a lot.
695
00:34:52,632 --> 00:34:58,471
And I made the probably very, very, very
dumb decision to only audition for Gambit
696
00:34:58,471 --> 00:35:03,392
because there was no prehistory
with doing, really, a Cajun accent.
697
00:35:03,392 --> 00:35:05,186
I mean, I would do an impression of him
698
00:35:05,186 --> 00:35:07,313
between me and one of my friends
in high school.
699
00:35:07,313 --> 00:35:10,274
"Are you an assassin or a thief?"
we used to say, like "mon ami."
700
00:35:10,274 --> 00:35:14,529
You stopped the bad guys,
saved the kid, got home safe.
701
00:35:14,529 --> 00:35:17,156
These beignets needed me
more than you did, mon ami.
702
00:35:17,156 --> 00:35:19,951
You know, I took French because of Gambit.
703
00:35:19,951 --> 00:35:22,787
And this is probably
the lamest thing I could say.
704
00:35:22,787 --> 00:35:24,664
But we were allowed to choose names.
705
00:35:24,664 --> 00:35:26,624
And so I chose Remy, of course.
706
00:35:26,624 --> 00:35:28,417
But then I would sign it Remy LeBeau.
707
00:35:28,417 --> 00:35:30,419
And my teacher thought that was so cute.
708
00:35:30,419 --> 00:35:32,088
She was like, "Remy the handsome."
709
00:35:32,088 --> 00:35:34,507
And I was like,
"Yeah, that's what I meant."
710
00:35:34,507 --> 00:35:35,842
Not "I want to be Gambit."
711
00:35:35,842 --> 00:35:38,344
I can't believe I get to say this.
I'm so excited.
712
00:35:38,344 --> 00:35:41,430
Mon ami, maybe Gambit
should have played less rough with you
713
00:35:41,430 --> 00:35:43,141
in the Danger Room, n'est-ce pas?
714
00:35:43,141 --> 00:35:45,226
But the cards, they're wild.
715
00:35:46,811 --> 00:35:52,316
Would we be here helping the survivors
if we cared about staying alive?
716
00:35:52,859 --> 00:35:54,569
We care about others.
717
00:35:54,569 --> 00:35:56,529
As do most, I believe.
718
00:35:56,529 --> 00:35:59,657
{\an8}I got a email asking
if I could audition for Charles.
719
00:35:59,657 --> 00:36:02,827
{\an8}And I was over the moon, obviously,
720
00:36:02,827 --> 00:36:05,830
because I was a big fan of the show
from the early years.
721
00:36:05,830 --> 00:36:07,123
I'm a mutant.
722
00:36:07,123 --> 00:36:09,750
Telepathy. Mind reader.
723
00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:11,836
Likely can control them, too.
724
00:36:11,836 --> 00:36:12,962
Bend their will.
725
00:36:13,462 --> 00:36:17,133
I remember the first recording.
I was doing a few takes.
726
00:36:17,133 --> 00:36:19,552
And then I just had to stop for a second
727
00:36:19,552 --> 00:36:22,889
and look at, you know, the writers
728
00:36:22,889 --> 00:36:25,224
and the producers,
and casting director, and director.
729
00:36:25,224 --> 00:36:26,434
And I just said,
730
00:36:26,434 --> 00:36:29,020
"I can't tell you how tickled I am
to be a part of this,"
731
00:36:29,020 --> 00:36:32,440
because when I say this show was
the reason why I got into voice acting,
732
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,151
it was also the reason
why I got into acting in general.
733
00:36:35,151 --> 00:36:38,321
I mean, this show was so important to me
growing up as a kid.
734
00:36:38,321 --> 00:36:41,199
Just the fact that it's gone
full circle now, 30 years later.
735
00:36:41,199 --> 00:36:45,995
Now I'm a grown man
and I get to share this beautiful story
736
00:36:45,995 --> 00:36:49,373
with my nieces and nephews
who are about that same age.
737
00:36:49,373 --> 00:36:50,708
It just blows my mind.
738
00:36:50,708 --> 00:36:54,003
And I'm so, so grateful
to be a part of this.
739
00:36:54,003 --> 00:36:59,467
Help the world see, by being different,
we all share something.
740
00:37:00,718 --> 00:37:01,969
You're him!
741
00:37:02,470 --> 00:37:04,639
- You're...
- Magneto.
742
00:37:04,639 --> 00:37:06,766
I didn't grow up with the original show
743
00:37:06,766 --> 00:37:09,477
{\an8}in the way that a lot
of my contemporaries did.
744
00:37:09,977 --> 00:37:13,940
So for Magneto,
the team gave me a list of episodes.
745
00:37:13,940 --> 00:37:17,276
They're like, "Here's the list
of the ones that your character is in
746
00:37:18,027 --> 00:37:21,239
"that you should go to first
just for reference."
747
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,825
So I went back and then watched
as much of it as I could
748
00:37:24,825 --> 00:37:27,662
to get a good feel of both the show
and the characters.
749
00:37:27,662 --> 00:37:29,622
So I knew the context of it.
750
00:37:29,622 --> 00:37:30,748
{\an8}Then looking up David,
751
00:37:30,748 --> 00:37:34,085
{\an8}who voiced it in the original series,
and going, "He was English-Canadian
752
00:37:34,085 --> 00:37:35,670
{\an8}"and also had a theater background."
753
00:37:35,670 --> 00:37:37,713
His background and training
wasn't different.
754
00:37:37,713 --> 00:37:40,424
And his voice was
in the same sort of tenor as mine.
755
00:37:40,424 --> 00:37:45,304
So I went, "Oh, I think I can actually
probably come close to what he was."
756
00:37:45,304 --> 00:37:50,643
My intentions here
were not to cause drama or discord.
757
00:37:50,643 --> 00:37:52,603
Okay, prove it.
758
00:37:52,603 --> 00:37:55,690
Let Jean scan your mind,
see your real plans.
759
00:37:55,690 --> 00:37:58,150
- Scott, no.
- What?
760
00:37:58,651 --> 00:38:00,987
Even if I sensed
Magneto's intentions were sincere,
761
00:38:00,987 --> 00:38:04,156
that's today, this hour, this minute.
762
00:38:04,657 --> 00:38:06,909
{\an8}I was familiar with the original show
763
00:38:06,909 --> 00:38:09,453
{\an8}because the '90s rocked
and it was super fun.
764
00:38:09,453 --> 00:38:11,539
Like most of us workaday voice actors,
765
00:38:11,539 --> 00:38:13,541
the way this started for me
was an audition.
766
00:38:13,541 --> 00:38:16,794
They send the copy and you read it
and you go, "Oh, my God, I love this.
767
00:38:16,794 --> 00:38:18,254
"I really would love to do this."
768
00:38:18,254 --> 00:38:19,755
Then you throw your heart into it.
769
00:38:19,755 --> 00:38:22,967
And if you're lucky, you happen to fit
the recipe they're making.
770
00:38:22,967 --> 00:38:24,427
It's like you said, Scott.
771
00:38:25,303 --> 00:38:26,929
What have we been fighting for
all these years
772
00:38:26,929 --> 00:38:30,016
if not the chance
to finally live our lives?
773
00:38:30,016 --> 00:38:31,475
The team will be fine.
774
00:38:32,143 --> 00:38:33,978
Our son will need us more.
775
00:38:35,521 --> 00:38:36,814
Deep down, you know that.
776
00:38:36,814 --> 00:38:40,860
I am so enjoying living in this character
777
00:38:40,860 --> 00:38:44,155
who has all this complexity
and all these things going on
778
00:38:44,155 --> 00:38:48,200
in the face of giant robots,
and horrible villains,
779
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,786
and what's going on
inside the X-Men this season,
780
00:38:50,786 --> 00:38:51,996
which is pretty intense.
781
00:38:52,496 --> 00:38:55,666
Beast's tests won't change the fact
that I'm Nathan's mother.
782
00:38:55,666 --> 00:38:58,502
I know. No one is saying that.
783
00:38:59,128 --> 00:39:00,171
Just...
784
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,423
With the Professor and Storm gone,
785
00:39:02,423 --> 00:39:04,050
and Magneto here,
786
00:39:04,050 --> 00:39:05,676
it's been a lot for everyone.
787
00:39:06,177 --> 00:39:09,180
{\an8}I didn't grow up with the show,
so I wasn't familiar with the characters
788
00:39:09,180 --> 00:39:11,140
as much as the other kid next door.
789
00:39:11,140 --> 00:39:13,309
Rogue, the Professor entrusted us
790
00:39:13,309 --> 00:39:16,020
with his dream
of mutant-human coexistence.
791
00:39:16,020 --> 00:39:17,605
We have to stay vigilant,
792
00:39:17,605 --> 00:39:19,398
no matter how good things seem out there.
793
00:39:19,398 --> 00:39:22,234
I auditioned
for Scott Summers, Cyclops.
794
00:39:22,234 --> 00:39:24,653
They were looking for
a strict, strict voice match.
795
00:39:24,653 --> 00:39:27,239
Name's Cyclops. Definitely the good guy.
796
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,033
Did an okay job at it.
797
00:39:29,033 --> 00:39:32,995
But Meredith Layne, the casting director
and voice director on this project,
798
00:39:32,995 --> 00:39:35,706
knew that I could do better
and gave me a callback
799
00:39:35,706 --> 00:39:39,377
with, I think, the subtext of,
"Ray, take this one seriously."
800
00:39:39,377 --> 00:39:40,836
So I took it really seriously.
801
00:39:40,836 --> 00:39:44,507
I started to figure out
who this character was, researched clips.
802
00:39:44,507 --> 00:39:46,675
And Norm Spencer's Cyclops
803
00:39:46,675 --> 00:39:50,096
is something that I was not
super familiar with coming into it.
804
00:39:50,096 --> 00:39:52,223
But once I started watching
the original series
805
00:39:52,223 --> 00:39:56,811
and especially two long-form interviews
with Norm on the show,
806
00:39:56,811 --> 00:39:58,938
I listened to them,
absolutely devoured them
807
00:39:58,938 --> 00:40:00,272
and fell in love with the guy.
808
00:40:00,272 --> 00:40:03,776
I do think that it's just such a tragedy
that we lost him
809
00:40:03,776 --> 00:40:06,070
right before this show
was even getting made.
810
00:40:06,070 --> 00:40:10,574
I think that he would've absolutely loved
the chance to be with his friends
811
00:40:11,117 --> 00:40:12,201
one last time.
812
00:40:12,201 --> 00:40:14,870
And I dedicate this performance to him.
813
00:40:15,996 --> 00:40:18,499
Different generations
have their own view of Cyclops,
814
00:40:18,499 --> 00:40:20,918
have their own ideas
about what he should be.
815
00:40:20,918 --> 00:40:24,630
And I just hope that I'm able to please
as many of those people as possible.
816
00:40:24,630 --> 00:40:26,799
To me, my X-Men.
817
00:40:32,888 --> 00:40:34,890
The X-Men
is a story about mutants.
818
00:40:34,890 --> 00:40:36,809
It's a story about outsiders.
819
00:40:36,809 --> 00:40:40,187
It's a story about people protecting
a world that fears and hates them.
820
00:40:40,187 --> 00:40:43,107
But these mutants, these Homo superiors
821
00:40:43,107 --> 00:40:45,985
that have evolved past Homo sapiens
are human.
822
00:40:45,985 --> 00:40:48,154
They're human in their hearts,
in their souls.
823
00:40:48,154 --> 00:40:50,364
They fall in love. They feel envy.
824
00:40:50,364 --> 00:40:51,991
They feel remorse.
825
00:40:51,991 --> 00:40:53,576
They feel affection.
826
00:40:53,576 --> 00:40:56,579
It's actually an incredibly
emotional story between characters
827
00:40:56,579 --> 00:40:59,540
that make a lot of sparks
when they collide into each other.
828
00:40:59,540 --> 00:41:04,545
And that's not just in these amazing
splash page action scenes,
829
00:41:04,545 --> 00:41:08,799
but also in the human drama
behind each one of their relationships.
830
00:41:09,383 --> 00:41:10,551
You hurt me.
831
00:41:10,551 --> 00:41:11,802
As you did me.
832
00:41:13,304 --> 00:41:14,680
Countless times.
833
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:15,890
Both of us.
834
00:41:15,890 --> 00:41:18,851
But we never abandoned each other.
835
00:41:19,351 --> 00:41:20,728
I loved the scripts.
836
00:41:20,728 --> 00:41:23,772
You could look at them
from so many different levels.
837
00:41:24,315 --> 00:41:29,069
And I've always been really interested
in mythology ever since I was a kid.
838
00:41:29,069 --> 00:41:33,407
So, for me, I looked at them as archetypes
839
00:41:33,407 --> 00:41:37,286
and almost like the Greek
or Roman gods and goddesses.
840
00:41:40,206 --> 00:41:42,625
Your parents don't know, do they?
841
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,047
Some sort of solar energy.
842
00:41:48,047 --> 00:41:49,423
Still figuring it out.
843
00:41:49,423 --> 00:41:51,967
Makes me strong, though. Really strong.
844
00:41:51,967 --> 00:41:55,262
Whenever I do this,
it just reminds me that I'm different.
845
00:41:55,262 --> 00:41:57,014
That I'm lying to them.
846
00:41:57,806 --> 00:41:59,266
Be an X-Man, Jubilee?
847
00:42:00,184 --> 00:42:01,602
I don't even want to be myself.
848
00:42:01,602 --> 00:42:05,272
The writing that we had for five years
was unbelievable.
849
00:42:05,272 --> 00:42:07,566
And it's just continuing.
850
00:42:07,566 --> 00:42:08,859
We...
851
00:42:09,693 --> 00:42:11,028
had a dream.
852
00:42:13,155 --> 00:42:14,281
Charles.
853
00:42:14,281 --> 00:42:18,369
Yes. A dream that made us a family.
854
00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:22,414
And like that dream,
any family worth having...
855
00:42:22,414 --> 00:42:23,999
Is worth fighting for.
856
00:42:25,376 --> 00:42:28,128
What was interesting, you know,
I think for all of us
857
00:42:28,128 --> 00:42:30,631
who are grateful
to be invited back to the show
858
00:42:31,131 --> 00:42:34,510
is we want to see where it goes now,
859
00:42:34,510 --> 00:42:38,222
because 30 years later
there are different concerns,
860
00:42:38,847 --> 00:42:41,016
different aspects to society
861
00:42:41,016 --> 00:42:44,144
that hopefully will be incorporated
into the show.
862
00:42:44,144 --> 00:42:50,234
And we'll see how the X-Men
deal with everything that is of today,
863
00:42:50,943 --> 00:42:55,322
because that will bring in new fans
as well as the old ones.
864
00:42:55,322 --> 00:42:59,785
Those themes of loss
and alienation and love and heartbreak,
865
00:42:59,785 --> 00:43:02,204
those are all themes that can be addressed
866
00:43:02,204 --> 00:43:05,416
and can be understood
by literally anyone of any age.
867
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:11,463
And I think we go infinitely darker
and more realistic
868
00:43:11,463 --> 00:43:16,135
and more humanistic in our approach
with this iteration than ever before.
869
00:43:16,135 --> 00:43:18,887
Everything around us
would not have been possible
870
00:43:18,887 --> 00:43:20,931
without the work of the X-Men.
871
00:43:20,931 --> 00:43:25,894
The general trajectory of this was
unlike any other show that I've worked on.
872
00:43:25,894 --> 00:43:27,479
At the very, very beginning,
873
00:43:27,479 --> 00:43:31,483
we were going for strict 100%,
as if nothing changed.
874
00:43:31,483 --> 00:43:34,236
This is the exact same cast
sounding the exact same way.
875
00:43:34,236 --> 00:43:36,030
Defend your master!
876
00:43:36,030 --> 00:43:37,156
Kid, get down!
877
00:43:37,156 --> 00:43:38,907
Erik!
878
00:43:38,907 --> 00:43:41,160
And I think what we learned
going forward was
879
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,621
that type and style of delivery and acting
880
00:43:43,621 --> 00:43:46,498
that was more prevalent
in animated series of the '90s
881
00:43:46,498 --> 00:43:49,376
just didn't quite hit right
with audiences today.
882
00:43:49,376 --> 00:43:52,671
It sounded a little bit like
we were trying to emulate a time capsule
883
00:43:52,671 --> 00:43:54,173
of a time that has passed.
884
00:43:54,173 --> 00:43:57,051
And I think they made the right choice
to start dialing it back
885
00:43:57,051 --> 00:44:01,972
and put it more in a 2020s sensibility
of acting style.
886
00:44:01,972 --> 00:44:05,100
It was the most care and thought
887
00:44:05,100 --> 00:44:08,520
that I've seen put into any other project
that I've ever worked on.
888
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,774
All this change?
It's all the same.
889
00:44:12,358 --> 00:44:14,443
Let us do what we do.
890
00:44:14,860 --> 00:44:19,323
Believe not in a dream or our gifts,
891
00:44:19,323 --> 00:44:20,908
but in each other.
892
00:44:21,617 --> 00:44:23,285
It's a spiritual successor, right?
893
00:44:23,285 --> 00:44:26,830
So, having that wonderful perspective
of being a fan,
894
00:44:27,331 --> 00:44:29,667
knowing source material
and being able to go,
895
00:44:30,459 --> 00:44:31,669
"That feels right to me.
896
00:44:32,294 --> 00:44:34,213
"That might feel right
to the audience." Or...
897
00:44:34,213 --> 00:44:36,382
You know, "The script is saying this.
898
00:44:36,382 --> 00:44:38,342
"I'm feeling like
this is honoring the script.
899
00:44:38,342 --> 00:44:41,011
"The script is honoring the comic."
This is all going together.
900
00:44:41,011 --> 00:44:43,972
There is a lot of pressure,
but when you love what you do
901
00:44:43,972 --> 00:44:46,725
and when you have a love
for the IP and the source material,
902
00:44:46,725 --> 00:44:48,477
it quiets all the other voices.
903
00:44:48,477 --> 00:44:50,229
Odds may be bad,
904
00:44:50,813 --> 00:44:53,857
but the cards
are always in the X-Men's favor.
905
00:44:57,111 --> 00:44:58,362
Back in the '90s,
906
00:44:58,362 --> 00:45:00,489
when the writers were brought in
to work on the show,
907
00:45:00,489 --> 00:45:02,491
they knew nothing about the X-Men.
908
00:45:02,491 --> 00:45:03,742
And I knew too much.
909
00:45:04,243 --> 00:45:06,954
So it was a great balance
910
00:45:06,954 --> 00:45:09,707
because they knew
how to write great character dramas.
911
00:45:09,707 --> 00:45:13,627
And I knew all about who liked this one,
who didn't like this one,
912
00:45:13,627 --> 00:45:16,046
who hated who,
who's a brother, sister, all that stuff.
913
00:45:16,046 --> 00:45:18,257
And I could just pour that out
for them to read.
914
00:45:18,257 --> 00:45:20,843
They also got
the Marvel handbook back then.
915
00:45:20,843 --> 00:45:22,136
So, all together,
916
00:45:22,136 --> 00:45:24,972
we were able to put together
some great stories
917
00:45:24,972 --> 00:45:29,768
that felt like we kept the heart
of what fans would love.
918
00:45:29,768 --> 00:45:33,772
And then, also regular people
could just dive into the mythology
919
00:45:33,772 --> 00:45:34,982
and enjoy the shows.
920
00:45:34,982 --> 00:45:39,570
As Archimedes said when he discovered
the principle of displacement,
921
00:45:40,487 --> 00:45:41,488
"Eureka."
922
00:45:42,114 --> 00:45:43,615
We've worked on other action shows
923
00:45:43,615 --> 00:45:46,076
and it tended to be
more about the plot and the action.
924
00:45:46,076 --> 00:45:48,036
And we started every episode
925
00:45:48,036 --> 00:45:51,623
as we started to think
about writing it about whose story is this
926
00:45:51,623 --> 00:45:53,792
and how can we best reveal character?
927
00:45:53,792 --> 00:45:58,297
How can we make the deepest,
most intense Storm story or Rogue story?
928
00:45:58,297 --> 00:46:01,300
We started thinking of them
as adult human beings
929
00:46:01,842 --> 00:46:04,595
and then thought about them as people
that had superpowers.
930
00:46:04,595 --> 00:46:08,682
I have been dedicated to the X-Men
since I was a teenager,
931
00:46:08,682 --> 00:46:11,810
never allowing myself
a life beyond my work.
932
00:46:11,810 --> 00:46:14,021
And if you look
at each individual X-Men
933
00:46:14,021 --> 00:46:16,273
on the core team on
X-Men: The Animated Series,
934
00:46:16,273 --> 00:46:20,736
each one of them was like the best
at that crazy, amazing superpower
935
00:46:20,736 --> 00:46:22,112
that they each had.
936
00:46:22,112 --> 00:46:25,282
But it was also the thing
that was their deepest sadness.
937
00:46:25,282 --> 00:46:27,659
Rogue has got crazy powers,
938
00:46:27,659 --> 00:46:30,579
but if you swapped her powers
with Wolverine, she could've been happy
939
00:46:30,579 --> 00:46:31,955
because she could touch people.
940
00:46:31,955 --> 00:46:34,374
No need to pull out her claws
unless she chose to.
941
00:46:34,374 --> 00:46:36,168
Rogue's story would have been different.
942
00:46:36,168 --> 00:46:39,463
And if Wolverine couldn't touch people,
fine, he'll go live in the woods.
943
00:46:40,255 --> 00:46:42,591
There's no place like home.
944
00:46:42,591 --> 00:46:45,052
Cyclops,
you can't look him in the eyes.
945
00:46:45,052 --> 00:46:48,347
Here is this upright guy
who just wants to do the right thing,
946
00:46:48,347 --> 00:46:50,724
and he's got the shield between him
and the whole world.
947
00:46:50,724 --> 00:46:53,519
So each one of them, the thing
that you go, "That's so cool,"
948
00:46:53,519 --> 00:46:56,688
is the thing that's the saddest,
most haunting moment for each of them.
949
00:46:57,356 --> 00:46:59,233
{\an8}Some say they're freaks,
950
00:46:59,233 --> 00:47:00,776
{\an8}some call them monsters,
951
00:47:00,776 --> 00:47:05,113
{\an8}but all over the planet,
they are known as mutants.
952
00:47:05,113 --> 00:47:08,617
We only found out,
really, how successful the show was
953
00:47:08,617 --> 00:47:12,204
maybe, like, two years ago,
three years ago,
954
00:47:12,788 --> 00:47:17,251
{\an8}when we were asked to come
on a few Comic-Con tours.
955
00:47:17,251 --> 00:47:20,504
I was at the airport flying down
to one of the Comic-Cons,
956
00:47:20,504 --> 00:47:25,008
and you have to clear Customs
in Canada to go to the States.
957
00:47:25,008 --> 00:47:28,804
So the American border guard asked me,
"Where are you going?"
958
00:47:28,804 --> 00:47:30,347
I told him the city I was going to.
959
00:47:30,347 --> 00:47:32,224
He says,
"What's your business down there?"
960
00:47:32,224 --> 00:47:33,684
I said, "I'm going to Comic-Con."
961
00:47:33,684 --> 00:47:34,893
He goes, "Comic-Con?"
962
00:47:34,893 --> 00:47:38,730
I said, "Yeah, I'm one of the guests.
I'm one of the X-Men."
963
00:47:38,730 --> 00:47:42,192
And he starts singing
the theme song.
964
00:47:42,192 --> 00:47:44,361
And I told him, "Well, I played Beast."
965
00:47:44,361 --> 00:47:45,612
And he was all excited.
966
00:47:45,612 --> 00:47:48,031
Blue blushes, too, my dear.
967
00:47:48,031 --> 00:47:50,492
It was a homecoming of sorts
for all of us,
968
00:47:50,492 --> 00:47:54,621
{\an8}and great to see each other
after literally 25 years.
969
00:47:54,621 --> 00:47:57,708
It's just a bonding, big-time, all of us.
970
00:47:57,708 --> 00:47:59,543
Like, we went to Wales, for God's sakes.
971
00:47:59,543 --> 00:48:01,211
This is super.
972
00:48:01,211 --> 00:48:04,840
What makes it all is the happiness
that you see on these people's faces.
973
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,594
When we got to LA,
I did the one in LA, holy moly.
974
00:48:08,594 --> 00:48:10,762
That was when we found out
975
00:48:10,762 --> 00:48:14,892
how much it had changed
so many people's lives.
976
00:48:14,892 --> 00:48:18,770
I went into the green room
in Los Angeles for that event,
977
00:48:18,770 --> 00:48:21,356
{\an8}not knowing what audience was out there.
978
00:48:21,857 --> 00:48:25,736
And then they called us up onto a stage,
announced us,
979
00:48:25,736 --> 00:48:30,616
and literally stepped out from behind
the green room in a curtain onto a stage.
980
00:48:31,283 --> 00:48:34,244
And there were, to me, what appeared to be
981
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,248
a few thousand people
in this convention center,
982
00:48:38,248 --> 00:48:39,750
jammed, standing.
983
00:48:40,250 --> 00:48:42,336
It was overwhelming to me.
984
00:48:44,379 --> 00:48:47,090
I've had people come up
and saying that I made their childhood.
985
00:48:47,090 --> 00:48:51,178
It was like the most enjoyable time
that they could go watch Saturday morning.
986
00:48:51,178 --> 00:48:55,349
I've had people come and talk
about how Rogue's character,
987
00:48:55,349 --> 00:48:57,309
or Gambit's character,
or Wolverine's character,
988
00:48:57,309 --> 00:48:58,894
specifically helped them
989
00:48:58,894 --> 00:49:01,647
in certain situations
when they were growing up as a kid.
990
00:49:01,647 --> 00:49:04,524
You know, kids that were maybe short
or being bullied,
991
00:49:04,524 --> 00:49:08,111
that when they saw Wolverine
and how he didn't take much from anybody,
992
00:49:08,111 --> 00:49:10,072
the kids saw that as something
993
00:49:10,072 --> 00:49:12,532
that they could incorporate
into their confidence.
994
00:49:12,532 --> 00:49:14,743
I don't hide from anybody, kid.
995
00:49:14,743 --> 00:49:16,536
I'm fighting my own battle right now.
996
00:49:16,536 --> 00:49:19,665
People just come up and say, like,
"You made my childhood.
997
00:49:19,665 --> 00:49:21,708
"Thank you so much.
I can't thank you enough."
998
00:49:21,708 --> 00:49:23,168
What a wonderful thing to say.
999
00:49:23,168 --> 00:49:25,379
We thought we were making
a piece of entertainment.
1000
00:49:25,379 --> 00:49:29,716
Even though it was very topical
and very meaningful to the times,
1001
00:49:29,716 --> 00:49:32,260
we didn't think
that we were actually affecting people
1002
00:49:32,260 --> 00:49:33,971
in that much of an emotional way.
1003
00:49:33,971 --> 00:49:37,766
We're Canadian.
Most of the time, we're humble,
1004
00:49:37,766 --> 00:49:41,687
and we were just gobsmacked, blown away
1005
00:49:41,687 --> 00:49:45,732
by the fact that our work could have had
that effect on so many people.
1006
00:49:45,732 --> 00:49:47,567
And we still are to this day.
1007
00:49:47,567 --> 00:49:51,238
We love meeting our fans
and it really means a lot to us.
1008
00:49:52,030 --> 00:49:54,992
Always thanking the fans
for supporting the show
1009
00:49:54,992 --> 00:49:56,827
and supporting...
1010
00:49:57,577 --> 00:49:59,454
this fanboy to get that on the air
1011
00:49:59,454 --> 00:50:04,042
so I can show everyone that
you can do something more sophisticated
1012
00:50:04,793 --> 00:50:07,087
than what was being done back in the '90s.
1013
00:50:07,087 --> 00:50:09,506
Like, don't write down to kids,
write up to kids.
1014
00:50:09,506 --> 00:50:11,925
They're going to see the explosions
and laser beams
1015
00:50:11,925 --> 00:50:13,093
and all that kind of stuff.
1016
00:50:13,093 --> 00:50:16,930
But as they saw it in reruns,
they catch more of the adult subtext,
1017
00:50:16,930 --> 00:50:19,558
what we were trying to put out there,
and it worked.
1018
00:50:19,558 --> 00:50:21,101
Why do you hate us?
1019
00:50:21,101 --> 00:50:22,811
What did we ever do to you?
1020
00:50:23,395 --> 00:50:25,897
You were born.
1021
00:50:25,897 --> 00:50:26,982
Take her away.
1022
00:50:27,941 --> 00:50:30,819
You wouldn't be so brave
if my hands weren't tied.
1023
00:50:30,819 --> 00:50:34,156
For me, the original series
was definitive X-Men.
1024
00:50:34,156 --> 00:50:38,952
And to some degree, I just would love
if this became, for other kids
1025
00:50:38,952 --> 00:50:40,746
and other adults and other teens,
1026
00:50:40,746 --> 00:50:44,041
a place that they see themselves
and their X-Men.
1027
00:50:44,041 --> 00:50:47,669
'Cause every generation
has their own version of a superhero,
1028
00:50:47,669 --> 00:50:50,547
and there's so many young kids
that don't know X-Men the way I did.
1029
00:50:50,547 --> 00:50:53,008
And to get to see it in this form,
1030
00:50:53,008 --> 00:50:55,010
I'm hoping excites them
the way it excited me.
1031
00:50:55,010 --> 00:50:58,263
You no longer need to live in darkness.
1032
00:50:58,263 --> 00:51:00,682
You are outcasts no more.
1033
00:51:01,183 --> 00:51:04,019
There's sometimes a tendency
with children's programming
1034
00:51:04,019 --> 00:51:08,356
to imagine an idealized version
of a kid's life
1035
00:51:08,356 --> 00:51:10,692
that is insulated
from the trauma of the world.
1036
00:51:10,692 --> 00:51:11,943
We know that's not the case.
1037
00:51:11,943 --> 00:51:14,571
It wasn't the case in the '90s
when I was watching it,
1038
00:51:14,571 --> 00:51:16,448
and it's certainly not the case today
1039
00:51:16,448 --> 00:51:18,825
with everyone's access
to the Internet and social media.
1040
00:51:19,409 --> 00:51:20,869
{\an8}Kids see the world around them.
1041
00:51:20,869 --> 00:51:22,537
They see the racism in our world.
1042
00:51:23,121 --> 00:51:25,457
They see environmental calamities
in our world.
1043
00:51:25,457 --> 00:51:26,625
They see social unrest.
1044
00:51:26,625 --> 00:51:29,044
And I think that the show
is a place for kids
1045
00:51:29,044 --> 00:51:30,796
to find an outlet for that emotion,
1046
00:51:30,796 --> 00:51:33,173
to make them feel like
they're not isolated and alone
1047
00:51:33,173 --> 00:51:34,466
to deal with these anxieties,
1048
00:51:34,466 --> 00:51:36,802
that this is something that we all share
1049
00:51:36,802 --> 00:51:39,930
and that, like the X-Men,
can all persevere above together.
1050
00:51:39,930 --> 00:51:42,641
The strongest thing
to superhero stories,
1051
00:51:42,641 --> 00:51:45,185
whether it's sci-fi stories,
whether it's horror stories,
1052
00:51:45,185 --> 00:51:48,814
is that what they do is they allow us
to look at the human stories
1053
00:51:48,814 --> 00:51:53,193
and look at the difficult parts of it
and not make people feel targeted.
1054
00:51:53,193 --> 00:51:55,112
Because it's not about
this particular group.
1055
00:51:55,112 --> 00:51:57,114
It's about superheroes. It's about aliens.
1056
00:51:57,114 --> 00:51:58,907
It's about supernatural, whatever.
1057
00:51:58,907 --> 00:52:00,951
So we can address a lot of these things
1058
00:52:00,951 --> 00:52:04,579
in a way that is not necessarily
making somebody feel
1059
00:52:04,579 --> 00:52:07,124
like you're antagonizing them
or criticizing them.
1060
00:52:07,124 --> 00:52:09,876
You can do it in a way
that makes people watch it and go, like,
1061
00:52:09,876 --> 00:52:12,546
"Oh, they're dealing with the stuff
I was dealing with."
1062
00:52:12,546 --> 00:52:14,214
Or hopefully, alternatively,
1063
00:52:14,214 --> 00:52:16,883
"Oh, well, that kinda looks like
the way I behave,
1064
00:52:16,883 --> 00:52:19,177
"and that might not be the best way
to treat people."
1065
00:52:19,177 --> 00:52:23,515
Indeed, the odds remain reckless,
but if we all work in perfect unison,
1066
00:52:23,515 --> 00:52:26,017
we may just spare our world
a dinosaur's fate.
1067
00:52:26,017 --> 00:52:29,771
I think these stories are beautiful places
for kids and adults to come together
1068
00:52:29,771 --> 00:52:32,566
and deal with the things of life, right?
1069
00:52:32,566 --> 00:52:35,485
Even if they're fantastical stories,
they're still human themes.
1070
00:52:35,485 --> 00:52:38,864
What are demons,
but reflections of our fears and shame?
1071
00:52:38,864 --> 00:52:42,534
We need heroes
more than we've ever needed heroes.
1072
00:52:42,534 --> 00:52:45,829
And I think this is the time
where we're going to have to dig deep
1073
00:52:46,329 --> 00:52:51,626
and find our inner hero, our own personal,
the hero that we carry around inside,
1074
00:52:51,626 --> 00:52:56,006
and the need to do right for ourselves,
1075
00:52:56,506 --> 00:52:59,467
for each other, for the planet.
1076
00:52:59,467 --> 00:53:00,969
That is universal.
1077
00:53:00,969 --> 00:53:03,346
That is a universal message.
1078
00:53:03,346 --> 00:53:05,432
And it goes throughout history,
1079
00:53:05,432 --> 00:53:11,062
because throughout history, obviously,
there have been problems with countries,
1080
00:53:11,062 --> 00:53:15,066
nationalities, races, genders,
1081
00:53:15,066 --> 00:53:17,319
you know, people trying to make a duality
1082
00:53:17,319 --> 00:53:19,821
when really we need
to be working together.
1083
00:53:20,322 --> 00:53:22,866
My past is too littered with error.
1084
00:53:22,866 --> 00:53:25,076
Mine was, too, remember?
1085
00:53:25,577 --> 00:53:28,496
But the X-Men still took me in.
1086
00:53:28,496 --> 00:53:32,542
The thing is,
I didn't go about demanding their trust.
1087
00:53:32,542 --> 00:53:33,627
I earned it.
1088
00:53:33,627 --> 00:53:35,128
It's a show
about tolerance.
1089
00:53:35,128 --> 00:53:38,048
The way you can open up a dialogue
to talk to somebody,
1090
00:53:38,048 --> 00:53:39,341
to be able to hear them,
1091
00:53:39,341 --> 00:53:42,928
not to say you necessarily
agree with them, right?
1092
00:53:42,928 --> 00:53:45,513
But to hear them,
to understand how they are as a person,
1093
00:53:45,513 --> 00:53:48,475
to be able to communicate to them
the way they need it,
1094
00:53:49,226 --> 00:53:51,311
to potentially have them hear your side.
1095
00:53:51,311 --> 00:53:54,898
Charles Xavier entrusted me
with his dream,
1096
00:53:55,440 --> 00:54:00,278
and it does not ask you to love
or embrace my kind as your own,
1097
00:54:00,820 --> 00:54:04,532
but merely to accept
that this is a shared world
1098
00:54:04,532 --> 00:54:05,992
with a common future,
1099
00:54:06,576 --> 00:54:11,498
and that my kind, like yours,
have the right to live in it.
1100
00:54:12,832 --> 00:54:15,961
I love the fact that X-Men
does represent tolerance,
1101
00:54:16,461 --> 00:54:19,005
intolerance, prejudice, found family,
1102
00:54:19,005 --> 00:54:21,800
tribe, self-acceptance,
you know, in its IP.
1103
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,302
And the fact that we don't shy away
from that in this show,
1104
00:54:24,302 --> 00:54:27,973
which I think has been beautifully done
from day one,
1105
00:54:27,973 --> 00:54:29,975
that's what I hope people
take away from it.
1106
00:54:29,975 --> 00:54:31,184
Stand down, team.
1107
00:54:31,977 --> 00:54:33,311
We can't give up.
1108
00:54:35,397 --> 00:54:36,439
No, Rogue.
1109
00:54:37,983 --> 00:54:41,278
We're gonna do what we've been telling
humanity to do for years.
1110
00:54:41,278 --> 00:54:43,071
Stop fighting the future.
1111
00:54:43,071 --> 00:54:44,281
And embrace it.
1112
00:55:23,236 --> 00:55:25,947
{\an8}And then I think it's...
1113
00:55:31,536 --> 00:55:33,330
{\an8}- Something like that.