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I'd been trying to get my dirty,
little fingers into Marvel for years,
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so I go in, I meet with Brad Winderbaum
for the Black Widow movie.
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I loved She-Hulk so much even then,
that I put her into my Black Widow pitch.
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At one point, he even said like,
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"Kinda feels like you're pitching
a She-Hulk story with Black Widow in it,"
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and I said, "Guilty."
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So, when I didn't get that job,
my parting shot to them was,
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"If you ever do do She-Hulk,
you better call me, because if you don't,
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"I'll burn this building to the ground."
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Kevin makes the announcement
that they're gonna do She-Hulk
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as a series and I'm furious,
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because I look at my phone, I'm like,
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"I don't have any missed calls
from Marvel Studios.
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"I told them what would happen."
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And my fiancé was, of course, like,
"Chill out, dude."
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And then literally the next day,
I got a call,
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you know, from Marvel to see
if I wanted to pitch on She-Hulk
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and of course I was like,
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"I think I heard something
about an announcement?"
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I was actually a huge fan
of She-Hulk as a kid.
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She was, kind of, in my mind,
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the only really badass female superhero
who had her own comic books.
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WENDY JACOBSON: In her actual pitch
to get hired,
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Kat had a picture of her
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as a "scrawny teenager,"
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you know, reading the She-Hulk comic.
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She used to go every week and get it,
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and it was this exciting,
formative thing.
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COIRO: It was right as everything
was going down with the pandemic,
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I had my first meeting, and it was,
kind of, you know, horrible for the world,
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but great timing,
because my husband, Rhys,
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actually owned all the old comics,
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and we went to his mom's basement
and pulled them up,
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and I got to, kind of, go back through
all these comics that I'd loved,
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and really remember
what was so exciting about She-Hulk.
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And what was so exciting about her
is that she broke the fourth wall,
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and she was so irreverent,
and she was so big, and strong, and bold,
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and so many of the things that
she did are, kind of, groundbreaking.
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ANU VALIA: What I love about Jen's
story is, she's this young woman
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who spent so much time working,
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and hasn't really had the chance
to grow her life romantically,
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to spend time with her friends,
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to just, like, live a fun life
as a young adult woman, and then,
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this huge thing happens to her
and it's like,
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how do you, sort of,
navigate just your everyday life,
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trying to be good at your job,
trying to be a good friend,
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trying to figure out, sort of,
what you want as a person,
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and then as a Hulk.
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What are you talking about?
I'm not gonna be a superhero.
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(CHUCKLES)
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BANNER: What else ya gonna do as a Hulk?
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Return to my career.
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What I love most about Jen,
Jen/She-Hulk
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is just her contradiction.
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She's just so completely fixated on work,
and yet she also has this huge heart,
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and just wants to fall in love,
and all of that.
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And also that she, in one sense,
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loves being She-Hulk
and at the same time resents it.
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She's kind of
directly in that contradiction.
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We just started a superhuman law division,
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and I want you, well, the She-Hulk,
to be the face of it.
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Oh.
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JACOBSON: There was conversation
even in the methodology
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about how we shoot this.
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At one point, we talked about,
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are we gonna go old school
and do it like Bill Bixby,
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and, and Lou Ferrigno, and find
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you know, a great actor
who's of a certain height,
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and then have a bodybuilder
playing She-Hulk.
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There were so many
different discussions,
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we went down so many different paths,
and at the end of the day,
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it really landed with, "We need to find
the best actor for this job
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"who's gonna bring the most to the role,"
because ultimately,
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she's going to be a six-foot-seven,
green computer-generated image,
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and we all need to feel like
this is a real human being,
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and buy what she's selling.
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These dodos never had to deal
with this on the first day of the job.
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I hope they die in a fire.
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Not really, they can die of old age,
but like, tomorrow.
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GAO: I always thought of this
as a comedic role,
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and so I always thought like
we need a very comedic actress.
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You know, has to be a very,
very comedic person,
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who has a ton of comedy experience,
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but when we cast Tatiana, it was like,
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she made me change the way
I think about this character.
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Like, she turned Jennifer Walters
and She-Hulk into a real person.
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I'm a Hulk.
Why don't I just smash our way in?
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Because they have weapons, Jennifer.
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(WHISPERS) Yeah, well, good thing
She-Hulk is indestructible, Matthew.
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Not only am I, like, stepping into, like,
being a superhero for the first time,
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but I'm also, like getting to do
a flat-out comedy,
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which is just so exciting.
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And like with, you know,
writing like Jessica's,
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it's just so easy, and all of our
day players are like amazing,
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all of the guest stars, like,
it's just an incredible group of people,
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so it just feels really,
for the first time, like, total play, um,
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which I've experienced in little doses,
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but this feels like
totally a different world.
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Who are the two least likely people
to play Hulk?
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She's actually hysterical.
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-Well, I disagree, but I'm having fun.
-You're really funny.
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-You can do comedy really well.
-This guy's the fun one.
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I... I have never had the chance.
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I know, isn't it...
Don't you feel like, as a serious actor,
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you get stuck doing serious things,
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-when all you really wanna do is comedy?
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-What?
-Don't make me angry.
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You wouldn't like as me...
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(BOTH LAUGHING)
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SHANNON JUSTISON: For She-Hulk
we were really keen
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on it being Tatiana's performance.
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Our whole goal was to
not keyframe her face.
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She's amazing.
You want all that performance.
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And, so, she was wearing
of course the full mo-cap suit
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which gets her physical,
her body performance,
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and then she had what we call an HMC
or a head mounted camera on.
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And it's recording all those little dots
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and then those dots are then piped into
a system that can then read that in
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and translate that into facial motion.
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MAN: Scrunch your face left.
Scrunch your face right.
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Blink. Blink right. Blink left. Good.
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JUSTISON: So the gold standard
for motion capture
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is what we call optical capture,
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that's what you would probably recognize
as having the little like,
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what looks like ping-pong balls,
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what we call retro reflective markers
all over at certain points on the body.
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It also requires about 50 cameras
set up in a volume,
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and those all have to be perfectly set up
and then calibrated,
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obviously there's a big up time
with hanging all those cameras,
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and then any scenes
where there's a lot of crowds,
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she's sitting at her desk,
suddenly her legs are blocked,
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we can't see her pelvis anymore.
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That's when we would use an inertial suit.
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Inertial suits, they rely on little
sensors that are built into the suit,
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that also is just on a signal.
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So there's a little station that we set up
and it talks to all of the sensors.
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The only tricky thing with that,
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it's not as precise
as the optical capture.
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So the inertial
tended to go with us on location,
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for quick setup and tear down,
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optical any time we were in a big set,
we were gonna be there for a few days.
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We did everything. We did mo-cap,
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we did facial capture,
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we did Tatiana doing all the takes
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as well as doing a stunt double
doing the takes as well as
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animation trying to track
the motion capture.
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Tatiana has her frame,
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and it's quite different
to what She-Hulk is,
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so Tatiana doing this is one thing.
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When you have She-Hulk, it feels this!
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And people don't talk this way!
But that's how it translates
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when you are the height that she is
and the size that she is.
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So we had to do a lot of,
maybe, taming
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the straight translation from what
Tatiana did to She-Hulk,
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so that it would feel within character,
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and it didn't become a caricature.
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JUSTISON: Someone like She-Hulk
is very time intensive.
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She also has additional complications
in that she's got long-flowing hair,
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so she's automatically more difficult
than other characters.
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She also has 25 costumes,
which is unheard of.
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We only started from a core
from the wardrobe department
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and then we would kinda
take it from there.
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For the show, we also had an actress,
Malia, who was 6'7,
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and so she would wear
a practical version of the costume
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and that was really valuable reference
for us in visual effects.
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That was one of the funnest things
about this character,
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was getting to do both versions
of these costumes,
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what they look like on Tatiana, as Jen,
and then as She-Hulk.
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We actually had a body form made,
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based off of what She-Hulk's
measurements would have been,
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and we had that as a reference
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when we were making those costumes,
so that we could see,
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like the aftermath of the suit
after she has her transformation.
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We studied a lot of different
transformations on camera.
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There's so many different ways to do it.
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And the truth is,
with Jennifer turning into She-Hulk,
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it's meant to be this very seamless,
natural, easy thing.
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Yeah. All the way down, small, impish.
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One of the things that we really
responded to in visual effects
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was pulling up this reference material.
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There was a time lapse video
of a strawberry ripening,
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and that was kind of,
the biggest inspiration.
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-See?
-No, I'm doing this.
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Okay, this is completely new territory.
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We are in studio.
We're doing the scenes where,
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Jen has been cousin-napped by Bruce,
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and taken back to his beach lab,
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and she is undergoing,
like, Hulk training.
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Oh, my God, Bruce, what the hell?
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It kind of feels like if
I don't transform, I'm gonna die!
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Learning to be a Hulk,
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how to eat like a Hulk,
how to dress as a Hulk,
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how to control her transformations,
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but what's so cool about it is that
she's pretty great at controlling them.
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Far better than Bruce is.
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The triggers are anger and fear.
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Oh. (BLOWS RASPBERRY)
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Those are, like, the baseline
of any woman just existing.
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A lot comes more easily to her
than it did for him.
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It's a little frustrating,
I'm not gonna lie.
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Guess we could just...
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skip all that then.
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You know, he wants to be her mentor.
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I mean, there is no other person
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in the universe who's sort of,
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gone through what he's gone through,
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and so I think he's so excited
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to have this other person
to lay all this on, and...
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But she's so far ahead of him.
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-Fine. Teach me how to Hulk.
-Yes! I mean, okay.
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Mark's amazing.
He's so, playful, and, like, open,
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'cause I imagine it must be a weird thing
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to be taking this character
that you've known for years,
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that you've explored in certain contexts,
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but then to take him out of that context,
and put him in, like,
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this very different tone
in this very different world.
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It's just really fun to see him, like,
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explore that character
in a totally different way.
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(BOTH EXCLAIMING)
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RUFFALO: I've been doing this
for almost 10 years now,
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and I think we've done a really good job
of switching it up,
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and taking the characters, both Banner
and Hulk to a lot of different places.
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So, it's definitely
kept it interesting for me,
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and this is a whole other, like...
Really playing long scenes,
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and playing with another person,
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who is in motion capture,
I haven't really gotten to do.
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There's that one time that I was stuck as
the other guy for over two years.
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-That was on another planet.
-No, I can't be this for two years.
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No, I was in space! I said one time!
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Whoa. You have so much to learn
about living as a Hulk.
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I think Jessica and all the writers
just nailed it,
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in terms of it's so specific.
It's such a, like, sibling relationship.
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-Smug-Hulk.
-Smart-Hulk.
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Well, it's pretty smug
to call yourself smart.
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Yeah, I didn't come up with it.
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There's very little listening happening
and a lot of explaining. (LAUGHS)
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And a lot of telling the other what's up.
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-Come on, Bruce! Let me out.
-Put the helmet back on!
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MASLANY: It feels really innate,
and it was, kind of,
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a natural place for Mark and I to go,
for some reason.
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-Are you wearing fake eyelashes?
-No, what are we talking about?
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This is totally natural.
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-It's been amazingly fun.
-It's been so much fun. It's...
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-It's been a great time.
-The dumbest time.
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-It's dumb fun.
-It's dumb, yeah.
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Which is the best kind of fun.
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No, the hard time during the good time.
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-There's a good time during a hard time.
-There's a good time during hard time.
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-Darn it, I had it right the first time.
-Okay.
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JASON TAMEZ: The art department
designed these fabulous sets.
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It put us on the beach,
and we created the exterior
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on a back lot pad
against blue screen here.
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Built the tiki bar, and part of his
beach house garage,
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and ultimately have this showdown,
this fight between Hulk and She-Hulk.
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-Lunkhead!
-Dummy!
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(GRUNTS)
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RUFFALO: We got to do all our own stunts.
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I mean, we got to do
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-our big stunt fight scene together.
-Yeah.
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-(SCREAMS)
-(GRUNTS)
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We did these drills where they were,
like, competing throwing boulders,
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and she's winning,
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and it was one of my
favorite moments of the whole shoot
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where they just, kind of,
went crazy and let loose.
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My bar!
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MASLANY: What else?
We did ground-pounding.
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-We did Hulk-leaping, we did some pushes.
-You shoved me.
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-We did coconut...
-We did coconut time.
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Oh, yeah, and I nailed you
in the face every time.
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Ten guys all missed me and the only one
that was our dead ringer was her,
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every single time.
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(GROANS AND GRUNTS)
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MAN: Action!
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Jen, people wanna know
everything about you.
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You're a public figure now.
And I'm famous adjacent. Yes!
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One of the first people
I thought of for this
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after Tatiana was cast was Ginger.
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And they're about the same age,
and that was important to me,
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that they be peers, and be real friends.
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They're not just work friends,
they are people who relate on every level.
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Thinking you're gonna be an Avenger.
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Gettin' Captain America. Making sure
he's done the deed before
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-so he knows how to help you.
-Bye. Bye.
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This was the one role, actually,
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that we did setup chemistry tests for,
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because their relationship, you know,
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is like one of the core dramatic things
that the show is riding on.
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If you don't believe their friendship,
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then nothing else is really gonna work.
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-We did a scene where...
-Yes!
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-This is the gala scene.
-Yeah.
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And me and Ginger walked in...
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GINGER GONZAGA: To cool music,
like, we chose the song.
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-MASLANY: We did a whole thing.
-We were serving it.
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MASLANY: Then Kat, in the notes she gave
after the take, was like,
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"Could you guys just do it, like, cool?
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-"You know, make it look cool?"
-Yeah, and we died, because
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we had been serving our best cool,
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and we thought we had been freakin' cool,
300
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so I literally
didn't know what I could give.
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Ginger's brain works faster
than anybody's brain on the planet,
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especially mine.
303
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She's just, like,
the sharpest person I've ever met.
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She can improvise so, like,
seamlessly, effortlessly.
305
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She's just, like, always in flow.
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If things go bad, we're gonna have
five people for Mahjong!
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-Yes!
-What's that?
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It's a tile game, we'll have to go
and get the Chinese tiles...
309
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That sounds like more my style.
310
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I would rather that
than five guys at the same time.
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Then add it to your profile, girl.
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I'm lucky that they support me
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and I get a lot of freedom to play around
and use my brain.
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Improvising's my favorite thing to do.
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So, I'm like so grateful
that they let me "go rogue."
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That's the guy who says,
"You don't need to wear any make up".
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That guy was born
wearing that pinkie ring.
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That guy was wearing sunglasses inside.
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Teal ones that matched
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-the color of his shirt.
-Yeah.
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-I need a favor.
-Okay.
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Will you stand in line with me
waiting for a sneaker drop?
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The Iron Man Threes are comin' out,
324
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and they're limited
to one pair per customer.
325
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Why do you need two pairs?
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One to rock and one to stock.
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GONZAGA: I love the Pug-Nikki dynamic.
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Pug is just so sincere, just as Josh is
in life, and, like, really amped.
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And he is just there to be a ride or die
for his two gal pals.
330
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That was everything
that I wanted it to be.
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It's a crazy feeling knowing
that you're working at Marvel,
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and you're working, and you're getting to
bring characters to life
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that are in comic canon.
334
00:16:37,496 --> 00:16:41,333
Bringing Pug to the screen, and just,
kind of, gettin' to see what this world
335
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looks like in this MCU law world,
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I'm pretty stoked to be a part of it, bro.
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00:16:46,922 --> 00:16:50,801
I think I chose the right law firm.
I'm a lucky cat that they chose me back.
338
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I made you guys a welcome basket.
339
00:16:52,511 --> 00:16:53,887
-Oh!
-(CHUCKLES)
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It's got some office supplies
to get you started,
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snacks, and a map to
the best bathroom for pooping.
342
00:17:00,853 --> 00:17:02,062
Thank you.
343
00:17:02,187 --> 00:17:06,650
I think it's important to, sort of,
capture the workplace dynamics.
344
00:17:06,734 --> 00:17:09,570
So, you know we have this beautiful place
that she works in,
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and it can be intimidating.
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But like, at the heart of it,
what are sort of the same
347
00:17:14,074 --> 00:17:17,369
workplace dynamics that people
are used to, which is there's the boss
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who you're trying to impress
but you also, like,
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can't really read them.
And they know that.
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There's like the friends you work with,
and you're navigating
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the friendship relationship,
even though that person works for you.
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There's the co-worker that
you wanna be friends with
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but is cool and you don't know
when you're in.
354
00:17:34,011 --> 00:17:35,054
There's a lot going on.
355
00:17:35,137 --> 00:17:38,849
(SIGHS) How does she always look
so impeccable? Where does she shop?
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Somewhere with valet parking.
357
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RENÉE GOLDSBERRY: Mallory Book is the face
that never lost a case,
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which is a daunting thing to play.
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Most importantly,
she's really good at her job.
360
00:17:50,819 --> 00:17:54,323
I think of her as a superhero
in the court.
361
00:17:54,823 --> 00:17:56,366
Thank you, Your Honor.
362
00:17:57,076 --> 00:17:59,119
As you will see,
there are no issues of fact here
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that would require proceeding to trial.
364
00:18:01,455 --> 00:18:03,248
When I found out she was playing Mallory,
365
00:18:03,332 --> 00:18:05,167
I was like, losing my mind,
I was so excited.
366
00:18:05,292 --> 00:18:08,128
And then when I got to
actually work with her,
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00:18:08,212 --> 00:18:11,548
and see the nuance that
she brings to Mallory, you know,
368
00:18:11,632 --> 00:18:15,636
Mallory is written as this, sort of, like,
icy, untouchable person.
369
00:18:15,719 --> 00:18:21,266
But Renée just, like, so smartly ties in
these beautiful human moments.
370
00:18:21,767 --> 00:18:24,394
As you can see in the "About me" section,
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00:18:24,478 --> 00:18:26,355
my client wrote, and I quote,
372
00:18:26,438 --> 00:18:29,733
"Mean, green and straight poured
into these jeans."
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00:18:29,900 --> 00:18:30,901
Ew.
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00:18:34,905 --> 00:18:37,616
I'm serious and I'm pissed.
375
00:18:37,741 --> 00:18:41,578
GAO: In the comics, you know,
Titania is another super-powered woman,
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but not as powerful as She-Hulk.
377
00:18:43,580 --> 00:18:47,042
And she's just laser-focused on
taking down She-Hulk out of,
378
00:18:47,126 --> 00:18:49,378
you know,
the implication is out of jealousy.
379
00:18:49,503 --> 00:18:53,340
We wanted to give her a little bit more
complexity but also modernize her.
380
00:18:53,507 --> 00:18:57,886
And if there was a female
super-powered villain today,
381
00:18:57,970 --> 00:18:59,638
for sure she would be on social media.
382
00:18:59,763 --> 00:19:01,473
Could you take a photo of us?
383
00:19:01,557 --> 00:19:03,100
-Oh, my god, yes.
-No.
384
00:19:03,183 --> 00:19:05,519
Back up a little bit.
Just give me some space.
385
00:19:05,853 --> 00:19:07,729
And the great thing about Jameela is
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00:19:07,813 --> 00:19:11,900
she understands
that type of personality to a tee.
387
00:19:11,984 --> 00:19:16,029
Try telling that to the thousands of
testimonials from my fans
388
00:19:16,113 --> 00:19:18,073
who have had amazing results
389
00:19:18,157 --> 00:19:21,743
with my exclusive line
of She-Hulk foot exfoliants,
390
00:19:21,827 --> 00:19:23,704
which, by the way,
I have a free sample of,
391
00:19:23,787 --> 00:19:25,581
and offer into evidence. Thank you.
392
00:19:31,170 --> 00:19:34,131
JAMEELA JAMIL: I thought I was
going to be playing someone
393
00:19:34,214 --> 00:19:37,009
who poisons people,
because those were the sides that I read.
394
00:19:37,092 --> 00:19:38,719
They don't tell you
anything at Marvel.
395
00:19:38,802 --> 00:19:40,554
'Cause they're very,
very secretive.
396
00:19:40,637 --> 00:19:43,390
Uh, and so I didn't know
I would be doing any stunts,
397
00:19:43,473 --> 00:19:45,225
until I'd already signed the contract.
398
00:19:45,309 --> 00:19:48,270
And so I get to Atlanta thinking
I'm gonna have a very chill time.
399
00:19:48,353 --> 00:19:50,898
And they were like,
"Welcome to six months of stunts."
400
00:19:53,775 --> 00:19:59,323
I'm so strong now. This is, like, 45 tons,
that I'm actually lifting right now.
401
00:19:59,406 --> 00:20:02,451
And it's just, like, so easy...
Easy for me.
402
00:20:02,534 --> 00:20:04,411
I was really afraid.
403
00:20:04,494 --> 00:20:06,538
Because she had called me and she'd said,
404
00:20:06,622 --> 00:20:08,332
"I've never worked out a day in my life.
405
00:20:08,415 --> 00:20:11,585
"I've never done a fight
a day in my life." And I was just like,
406
00:20:11,668 --> 00:20:13,170
"Oh, no. What's gonna happen?"
407
00:20:13,253 --> 00:20:16,757
And then when she showed up,
she was so flexible. I was like,
408
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,468
"Okay, we can work with that.
Let's have you do some kicks."
409
00:20:19,551 --> 00:20:21,970
She likes spinning. I was like,
"Your character spins.
410
00:20:22,054 --> 00:20:25,933
"You know you do a kick
and you spin into another fight."
411
00:20:26,099 --> 00:20:28,644
She's all about the hair and the makeup
and the clothes.
412
00:20:28,727 --> 00:20:30,479
But still. She came to win.
413
00:20:30,562 --> 00:20:33,398
You see that?
That was five months of training.
414
00:20:33,482 --> 00:20:35,859
So, you are welcome.
415
00:20:36,485 --> 00:20:40,864
VALIA: The wedding episode came from
the beautiful mind of Jessica Gao.
416
00:20:40,948 --> 00:20:42,407
It was very much based on her life.
417
00:20:42,574 --> 00:20:44,618
Couples massage in ten minutes.
418
00:20:44,701 --> 00:20:47,871
Jen. I was gonna book you one,
and then I was like,
419
00:20:48,163 --> 00:20:51,166
"Wait, Lulu, what are you thinking?
Jen isn't in a couple."
420
00:20:51,291 --> 00:20:52,793
You know, it's your classic.
421
00:20:52,876 --> 00:20:56,672
You gotta go back home to your
old childhood friend's wedding.
422
00:20:56,797 --> 00:20:59,299
And they're kind of a nightmare person.
423
00:20:59,383 --> 00:21:01,551
I don't want you to be a Hulk
at my wedding.
424
00:21:02,094 --> 00:21:03,470
Let me have my day, Jen.
425
00:21:03,553 --> 00:21:07,307
Lulu is played by Patti Harrison,
who's a star.
426
00:21:07,432 --> 00:21:10,185
Hi. Hi, Jen. Hi!
427
00:21:10,269 --> 00:21:13,981
HARRISON: Lulu is a high school
friend of Jen's.
428
00:21:14,106 --> 00:21:19,152
I definitely went to high school
with girls like that.
429
00:21:19,903 --> 00:21:22,406
And they exist.
And they have every right to exist.
430
00:21:22,990 --> 00:21:26,159
But, that doesn't mean that
431
00:21:26,243 --> 00:21:29,037
they don't make existence harder
for everyone else around.
432
00:21:29,162 --> 00:21:31,540
How could you do this to me
on my wedding day?
433
00:21:31,623 --> 00:21:32,749
Now everything's ruined!
434
00:21:32,833 --> 00:21:35,127
I always thought
if I would meet her in real life,
435
00:21:35,210 --> 00:21:37,504
I'd be like, too intimidated to talk.
And I was.
436
00:21:37,671 --> 00:21:41,591
But, I got all, like,
the fangirling out early
437
00:21:41,675 --> 00:21:45,220
and, just, like,
have loved working with her.
438
00:21:45,304 --> 00:21:49,099
Tatiana is a real-life monster.
439
00:21:49,182 --> 00:21:52,811
She's one of the most toxic people
I've ever worked with in my life.
440
00:21:53,145 --> 00:21:58,025
Um... I love her to death
and I would kill for her.
441
00:21:58,108 --> 00:21:59,860
And I would kill anyone she told me to.
442
00:21:59,985 --> 00:22:02,779
She-Hulk is at my wedding?
443
00:22:03,613 --> 00:22:06,116
I love you.
444
00:22:07,117 --> 00:22:10,412
-Show me your Matcher profile. Jennifer!
-No.
445
00:22:10,620 --> 00:22:11,997
I think we can all agree that
446
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,667
the one thing that the MCU
has been missing is S-E-X.
447
00:22:15,751 --> 00:22:18,587
Why does no one have
a love life in the MCU?
448
00:22:18,670 --> 00:22:20,005
People have love lives.
449
00:22:20,088 --> 00:22:24,509
So, I was very excited to be able to
have that on our show
450
00:22:24,593 --> 00:22:27,095
because that is such a huge part
of everybody's lives.
451
00:22:27,179 --> 00:22:30,891
And here's the thing, like dating
in your 30s, already awful. The worst.
452
00:22:30,974 --> 00:22:33,143
But then you throw all of this stuff
on top of it,
453
00:22:33,226 --> 00:22:35,062
she's gonna have the worst time of it.
454
00:22:35,187 --> 00:22:37,606
That was a test
to make sure you're listening.
455
00:22:37,689 --> 00:22:39,983
I like doing little tests on first dates.
456
00:22:40,108 --> 00:22:42,611
Jen can be quite tightly wound,
457
00:22:42,694 --> 00:22:46,406
and sort of so fixated on work
as her only defining feature that,
458
00:22:46,490 --> 00:22:51,203
Nikki consistently reminds her that
there is a life outside of her job.
459
00:22:51,286 --> 00:22:56,541
And also to, like, embrace
the She-Hulkness of herself.
460
00:22:57,292 --> 00:22:58,585
I'm not proud of this.
461
00:22:58,668 --> 00:23:02,172
So she creates a profile and
she instantly gets all of these matches
462
00:23:02,255 --> 00:23:05,175
and sets up all of these dates
and she goes on a speed-dating round.
463
00:23:05,342 --> 00:23:07,844
Is there anything worse
than dating in your 30s?
464
00:23:07,969 --> 00:23:13,475
If you wanna make partner, the best
thing to do is bill a lot of hours.
465
00:23:13,558 --> 00:23:15,227
That's what my protagonist did.
466
00:23:15,310 --> 00:23:19,564
I have to admit,
I was a fan before we matched.
467
00:23:20,148 --> 00:23:25,070
Todd is a billionaire, playboy,
468
00:23:25,153 --> 00:23:27,197
philanthropist douchebag.
469
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,034
I love Wakanda. You know,
I actually, studied abroad there.
470
00:23:31,159 --> 00:23:34,621
He meets She-Hulk on a date.
He's a total creep.
471
00:23:34,746 --> 00:23:38,417
God, you're just so powerful.
What a specimen.
472
00:23:38,500 --> 00:23:41,837
And then he just starts popping up
in all of these places.
473
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:47,509
It's very obvious that he wants more
than anything to sleep with She-Hulk.
474
00:23:48,343 --> 00:23:53,306
But then it becomes a little bit
more apparent that there's a much
475
00:23:53,765 --> 00:23:56,726
seedier reason for that.
And that's to get her blood.
476
00:23:56,810 --> 00:23:58,520
(ALL CHANTING) Take She-Hulk's power!
477
00:23:58,603 --> 00:24:02,023
Take She-Hulk's power!
Take She-Hulk's power!
478
00:24:02,107 --> 00:24:05,652
COIRO: Jon Bass is just wonderful.
He's odious and horrible
479
00:24:05,735 --> 00:24:07,362
but you also kinda love him.
480
00:24:07,446 --> 00:24:11,158
Here's the thing, Jen.
I didn't just get handed my powers.
481
00:24:12,409 --> 00:24:14,161
I had to earn them.
482
00:24:15,036 --> 00:24:17,664
BASS: Yeah, it's the most fun
to play the villain.
483
00:24:17,747 --> 00:24:20,208
If you don't know that, know it now.
484
00:24:20,292 --> 00:24:23,378
I would like to introduce
our very special guest speaker.
485
00:24:23,462 --> 00:24:25,505
He cost a ton, so you'd better cheer.
486
00:24:25,589 --> 00:24:30,802
Give it up for the Abomination.
487
00:24:30,969 --> 00:24:35,223
(ALL APPLAUDING AND CHEERING)
488
00:24:35,474 --> 00:24:37,893
Thank you! Thank you.
489
00:24:39,436 --> 00:24:41,688
TIM ROTH: They asked me
to come back and do this,
490
00:24:41,771 --> 00:24:43,315
I said, "That sounds like fun."
491
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,611
And they came up with this notion
of the character which,
492
00:24:47,777 --> 00:24:52,032
it's a fine line between embarrassing
and pretentious, and villainous.
493
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,034
When it says gang, it's not literal gang.
494
00:24:54,117 --> 00:24:56,661
Just make sure you make
that clear to the parole board.
495
00:24:56,745 --> 00:24:57,787
Yeah, no, I will.
496
00:24:57,996 --> 00:25:00,707
Tim is a character.
He is a total character.
497
00:25:00,790 --> 00:25:03,335
Excuse me, Jen, babe,
sweetheart, doll face.
498
00:25:03,418 --> 00:25:04,878
MASLANY: He was very playful.
499
00:25:04,961 --> 00:25:08,632
And so I think to come into this show
where now it's like a comedy,
500
00:25:08,715 --> 00:25:10,926
it was like a fun thing
to see him navigate.
501
00:25:11,051 --> 00:25:13,220
I'm actually appalling myself
with this tone.
502
00:25:13,303 --> 00:25:16,431
On the page, he was much more likeable
503
00:25:16,515 --> 00:25:18,099
and straightforward
504
00:25:18,433 --> 00:25:21,895
And Tim brought these layers where
you don't know if she should trust him,
505
00:25:21,978 --> 00:25:24,898
but at the same time,
he still deserves justice.
506
00:25:24,981 --> 00:25:27,943
And I think it makes her character
very sympathetic
507
00:25:28,026 --> 00:25:29,444
because she is like,
508
00:25:29,528 --> 00:25:32,364
"I don't really wanna do this.
This guy tried to kill my cousin.
509
00:25:32,447 --> 00:25:34,324
"But what happened to him was wrong."
510
00:25:34,407 --> 00:25:36,826
And to me, that really hearkened back
to the comics,
511
00:25:36,910 --> 00:25:41,164
to, like, the Jen Walters who will fight
for what is right, no matter what.
512
00:25:41,248 --> 00:25:44,918
Yes, Emil Blonsky is a polarizing figure.
513
00:25:45,502 --> 00:25:48,338
But he has served adequate prison time.
514
00:25:48,505 --> 00:25:52,342
And he has demonstrated that
he has been rehabilitated.
515
00:25:52,425 --> 00:25:56,346
He deserves a future as a free man
and a productive citizen.
516
00:26:00,183 --> 00:26:04,688
This is Dunaway Gardens.
This is Emil Blonsky's camp.
517
00:26:06,189 --> 00:26:08,817
We have the yurt where we do our yurting.
518
00:26:08,900 --> 00:26:12,571
We have our Room of Feelings
where we express our feelings.
519
00:26:13,697 --> 00:26:15,991
-Jen.
-Wow, this is quite a group.
520
00:26:16,575 --> 00:26:18,577
You're welcome to join.
521
00:26:18,660 --> 00:26:20,161
This is El Águila.
522
00:26:20,245 --> 00:26:21,955
-Man Bull.
-Porcupine.
523
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,959
Dirk Garthwaite and he is,
aka the Wrecker.
524
00:26:26,084 --> 00:26:29,754
We are breaking down
some of the relationships
525
00:26:29,838 --> 00:26:32,549
that are kind of clogging us up
as individuals.
526
00:26:32,632 --> 00:26:36,970
And, you know, doing the work.
527
00:26:37,053 --> 00:26:38,847
We just tryin' to be good people.
528
00:26:38,930 --> 00:26:41,683
We just have different perspective
on what good is,
529
00:26:41,766 --> 00:26:42,976
sometimes, you know what I mean?
530
00:26:43,101 --> 00:26:44,185
Saracen.
531
00:26:45,020 --> 00:26:47,897
Man Bull and El Águila have been spending
a lot of time together.
532
00:26:48,023 --> 00:26:50,233
-Yeah. Mmm-hmm.
-And that's great.
533
00:26:50,900 --> 00:26:54,863
But I'm feeling like maybe
it's not healthy.
534
00:26:55,572 --> 00:26:59,284
We're shooting a very atypically
long scene here, which is really fun.
535
00:26:59,367 --> 00:27:01,494
I think usually when you think
of television scenes,
536
00:27:01,578 --> 00:27:04,289
you don't get to really sit and do
some proper scene work.
537
00:27:04,372 --> 00:27:08,835
But this is like a 16 page scene
where we really see, She-Hulk, Jen,
538
00:27:08,918 --> 00:27:14,090
really kind of, open herself up,
share her vulnerabilities,
539
00:27:14,174 --> 00:27:16,760
share her disappointments, and her fears.
540
00:27:16,843 --> 00:27:19,554
And I think it's a really
beautiful opportunity
541
00:27:19,638 --> 00:27:22,140
to connect with who Jen really is.
542
00:27:22,223 --> 00:27:26,186
Everyone legitimately does pay attention
when I'm this.
543
00:27:26,269 --> 00:27:30,357
Like, guys, my colleagues, my boss.
544
00:27:31,316 --> 00:27:35,111
But it does feel like cheating,
in a way,
545
00:27:35,528 --> 00:27:39,366
because I wonder if those people
546
00:27:39,449 --> 00:27:43,078
would like me without all of this.
547
00:27:43,286 --> 00:27:47,540
JENNIFER BOOTH: It epitomizes
these dual sides of our lives, you know?
548
00:27:47,666 --> 00:27:51,044
I think we all wanna be She-Hulk
but we really relate to being Jen Walters.
549
00:27:51,127 --> 00:27:56,049
Maybe you can stop using She-Hulk
as a protective shield
550
00:27:56,132 --> 00:28:00,762
and trust us with Jen.
551
00:28:01,346 --> 00:28:05,934
She's a super-powered being
but you really get into the intricacies
552
00:28:06,017 --> 00:28:08,311
of, like, what she's
dealing with emotionally.
553
00:28:09,646 --> 00:28:13,066
-Yeah!
-Great job.
554
00:28:14,317 --> 00:28:16,236
I gotta say, that felt really good.
555
00:28:18,863 --> 00:28:23,451
Ms. Walters. I have a legal situation
of the greatest importance.
556
00:28:23,910 --> 00:28:25,412
You know, A, I'm a fan
557
00:28:25,620 --> 00:28:31,501
and then B, to, sort of interweave myself
into all of these series
558
00:28:31,584 --> 00:28:32,919
is just the best for me.
559
00:28:33,169 --> 00:28:37,048
-JEN: Finally!
-My apologies, Ms. Walters, Emil.
560
00:28:37,132 --> 00:28:40,260
I lost track of time, I was watching
the series finale of Breaking Bad.
561
00:28:40,343 --> 00:28:42,929
It's just fantastic to portal in and out.
562
00:28:43,012 --> 00:28:44,389
You took your time, didn't ya?
563
00:28:44,514 --> 00:28:48,226
He was just so great as Wong.
I just loved working with him.
564
00:28:48,935 --> 00:28:52,939
Let me send Donny to the Mirror Dimension?
He won't last a week.
565
00:28:53,064 --> 00:28:55,567
I would love that.
But that will ruin our case.
566
00:28:55,650 --> 00:29:01,239
On his last day, like, quietly,
suddenly, there was a DJ booth up on,
567
00:29:01,322 --> 00:29:03,158
a set we weren't using.
568
00:29:03,241 --> 00:29:05,452
And Benedict was like, DJing.
569
00:29:06,286 --> 00:29:08,288
(TECHNO MUSIC PLAYING)
570
00:29:14,085 --> 00:29:16,337
He is the best. He is, like, such a dream.
571
00:29:18,548 --> 00:29:19,841
Now, that's magic.
572
00:29:25,221 --> 00:29:27,182
GAO: We are in the theater,
at a magic show.
573
00:29:27,265 --> 00:29:31,186
And I don't wanna say cut rate
but not A-list magician,
574
00:29:31,269 --> 00:29:33,605
named Donny Blaze is performing a show.
575
00:29:33,897 --> 00:29:39,319
"A rose, by any other name,
would smell as sweet."
576
00:29:39,402 --> 00:29:42,781
In desperation,
he pulls out a sling ring and thus,
577
00:29:42,864 --> 00:29:47,368
begins a long journey
of trying to get this guy
578
00:29:47,452 --> 00:29:50,830
to stop using real magic
in his fake magic shows.
579
00:29:51,164 --> 00:29:53,166
(ALL APPLAUDING)
580
00:29:56,461 --> 00:29:59,297
We were gonna shoot in a real theater
here in Atlanta.
581
00:29:59,464 --> 00:30:03,384
I mean, we had it all drawn up
and planned to go there.
582
00:30:03,468 --> 00:30:05,470
I mean, it was, pretty locked in.
583
00:30:05,553 --> 00:30:07,305
And then, last minute, everybody's like,
584
00:30:07,388 --> 00:30:09,724
"You know, we're doing
so much work to the theater,
585
00:30:09,808 --> 00:30:12,143
"maybe we should just build it."
586
00:30:13,102 --> 00:30:16,231
It was inspired by old-style theaters.
587
00:30:16,314 --> 00:30:20,944
So, full of memorabilias of
magical things and magical elements.
588
00:30:21,027 --> 00:30:24,113
So, we just start with
a strong collaboration
589
00:30:24,197 --> 00:30:27,158
to make sure that the action can
take place in the proper way.
590
00:30:27,242 --> 00:30:30,662
So, for example, in a common theater,
591
00:30:30,745 --> 00:30:32,413
you will have more theater seats.
592
00:30:32,497 --> 00:30:36,960
We decide to take the side rows
and the front and the back rows away
593
00:30:37,085 --> 00:30:40,922
and to have a mix of like, chairs
and tables, exactly for right action.
594
00:30:41,005 --> 00:30:42,507
So, the demons and the fight
595
00:30:42,590 --> 00:30:45,134
can take place and it becomes
a little bit more dynamic.
596
00:30:46,386 --> 00:30:47,846
Oh, wow, look at that!
597
00:30:47,971 --> 00:30:49,514
RHYS COIRO: His name is Donny Blaze.
598
00:30:50,223 --> 00:30:51,391
That's his stage name.
599
00:30:52,058 --> 00:30:53,726
I won't reveal his actual name.
600
00:30:54,269 --> 00:30:55,937
What's the matter, Wong?
601
00:30:56,688 --> 00:30:59,983
Are you scared I'll become
more mystical than you?
602
00:31:00,942 --> 00:31:03,403
We wanted the magic and the character
to stand on its own.
603
00:31:03,486 --> 00:31:07,282
So, we actually found
a professional magician to advise him
604
00:31:07,365 --> 00:31:10,326
and consult with him
and Rhys has been working,
605
00:31:10,410 --> 00:31:11,911
you know, super diligently.
606
00:31:12,078 --> 00:31:15,164
Card tricks, rabbits, doves,
you know, smoke bombs.
607
00:31:15,248 --> 00:31:16,249
(RHYS BLOWS)
608
00:31:16,374 --> 00:31:18,835
Well, it's a very
humble profession, magic.
609
00:31:18,918 --> 00:31:21,045
I've been goin' around
trying to practice my tricks
610
00:31:21,129 --> 00:31:24,299
and people are entertained
but then also, sort of
611
00:31:24,716 --> 00:31:26,426
want nothing to do with it.
612
00:31:26,509 --> 00:31:29,095
-Backin' away. It's pretty funny.
-(BOTH CHUCKLE)
613
00:31:29,220 --> 00:31:30,555
Donny Blaze!
614
00:31:30,638 --> 00:31:33,516
FYI, these don't smell like anything.
615
00:31:33,641 --> 00:31:37,687
JACOBSON: He opens a portal
and an unsuspecting audience member,
616
00:31:37,770 --> 00:31:41,691
who is a party girl, played by
amazing comedian Patty Guggenheim,
617
00:31:41,774 --> 00:31:45,194
falls through the show
and into Wong's sanctum.
618
00:31:45,278 --> 00:31:46,571
Where am I?
619
00:31:46,654 --> 00:31:48,823
What happened to all of the goblins?
620
00:31:48,990 --> 00:31:50,074
Who are you?
621
00:31:50,158 --> 00:31:54,078
The hardest thing to do, I think,
is to play drunk convincingly.
622
00:31:54,162 --> 00:31:57,248
And she's so good at it
that she said it's a dial.
623
00:31:57,332 --> 00:31:59,459
That's how specific and tuned in she is.
624
00:31:59,542 --> 00:32:05,840
Madisynn with two Ns, one Y,
but it's not where you think.
625
00:32:06,424 --> 00:32:12,805
Yeah, I feel like I've been preparing for
this role for a long time in my real life.
626
00:32:12,889 --> 00:32:15,391
(CHUCKLES) Is that too personal?
627
00:32:15,558 --> 00:32:19,604
Madisynn's, like, a superhero
of the real world,
628
00:32:19,687 --> 00:32:22,148
who speaks for all of us.
629
00:32:22,231 --> 00:32:24,192
She's present, she lives in the moment.
630
00:32:24,275 --> 00:32:26,653
And I think we can all take a lesson
from her book.
631
00:32:26,778 --> 00:32:28,821
I kinda like browned out and...
632
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,782
Now I'm here.
633
00:32:30,907 --> 00:32:31,991
(RINGS BELL)
634
00:32:32,116 --> 00:32:33,952
WONG: We just had a lot of fun there.
635
00:32:34,494 --> 00:32:36,412
Case closed!
636
00:32:36,537 --> 00:32:42,502
The Madisynn-Wong combination,
goes quite well, really.
637
00:32:42,585 --> 00:32:45,630
He's kind of like sort of just...
638
00:32:45,713 --> 00:32:49,467
He's kind of got this puppy dog, really,
that he can't really do anything about.
639
00:32:49,550 --> 00:32:52,095
-Okay, Wongers, can we get fro-yo?
-No.
640
00:32:52,512 --> 00:32:55,515
We could talk about The Sopranos.
641
00:32:55,598 --> 00:32:56,641
Fine.
642
00:32:57,684 --> 00:32:58,935
No more spoilers.
643
00:33:00,687 --> 00:33:05,191
GOLDSBERRY: The fun of the show
is to combine this legal world
644
00:33:05,274 --> 00:33:11,364
and all of the possibilities
around superhero weirdness.
645
00:33:11,447 --> 00:33:15,576
I mean, what could happen
when you think of the legal ramifications
646
00:33:15,660 --> 00:33:17,620
of some really amazing, awesome powers?
647
00:33:17,704 --> 00:33:20,748
That's what so wonderful
about the Mr. Immortal episode.
648
00:33:23,459 --> 00:33:24,919
DAVID PASQUESI: I'm Mr. Immortal.
649
00:33:25,003 --> 00:33:28,965
I am able to regenerate after death.
650
00:33:29,340 --> 00:33:33,803
Unfortunately,
I don't have any other strengths.
651
00:33:33,928 --> 00:33:36,764
I'm not strong or fast,
or necessarily very bright
652
00:33:36,848 --> 00:33:39,726
but I can come back after I die.
653
00:33:39,809 --> 00:33:43,521
I really do not care
for conflict in any way.
654
00:33:43,604 --> 00:33:46,649
As soon as things get comfortable,
I just exit.
655
00:33:46,733 --> 00:33:50,653
Are you saying that instead
of having a conversation with your wife,
656
00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:53,364
you kill yourself to get out
of the relationship?
657
00:33:53,448 --> 00:33:54,907
Whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't kill myself.
658
00:33:54,991 --> 00:33:57,910
I'm immortal, so I can't die.
659
00:33:58,536 --> 00:34:01,372
Mallory and I clearly side with the women,
660
00:34:01,456 --> 00:34:02,832
but we have to represent him.
661
00:34:02,915 --> 00:34:06,836
And we had a lot of, lot of really funny,
local Atlanta-based guest stars.
662
00:34:06,919 --> 00:34:11,215
I spent $10,000
on a New Orleans jazz funeral.
663
00:34:11,424 --> 00:34:16,220
The way that the three of them really work
together is very funny to watch.
664
00:34:16,429 --> 00:34:18,514
They really have fallen into a groove.
665
00:34:21,392 --> 00:34:23,686
You're gonna have to pay.
666
00:34:24,312 --> 00:34:25,521
Why are you smiling?
667
00:34:26,355 --> 00:34:27,356
It's kinda fun.
668
00:34:28,149 --> 00:34:29,650
Another character that we had,
669
00:34:29,734 --> 00:34:33,404
that was so well portrayed
and such a great surprise, was Runa.
670
00:34:33,654 --> 00:34:36,365
COIRO: We were auditioning, like,
young, beautiful women.
671
00:34:36,449 --> 00:34:38,367
We really could not find somebody.
672
00:34:38,451 --> 00:34:43,748
And I had this crazy dream that
Taika and Jon Favreau were like,
673
00:34:43,831 --> 00:34:47,668
"Kat, you need to play this role.
We've both been in the movies.
674
00:34:47,794 --> 00:34:49,378
"You need to play the shapeshifter."
675
00:34:49,462 --> 00:34:51,089
And I woke up and I was like,
676
00:34:52,173 --> 00:34:55,176
"No, I definitely don't wanna play
the shapeshifter.
677
00:34:55,259 --> 00:34:58,262
"But maybe,
the takeaway is I want someone old."
678
00:34:59,055 --> 00:35:02,433
And I'm not old but I'm older
than the girls we were auditioning.
679
00:35:02,517 --> 00:35:06,896
Thank you so much. Thanks for the dream.
It's now my dream.
680
00:35:06,979 --> 00:35:08,231
JACOBSON: We auditioned Peg O'Keef.
681
00:35:08,356 --> 00:35:10,108
We were like, "This is the woman for us."
682
00:35:10,233 --> 00:35:12,860
Let that be a warning.
683
00:35:12,944 --> 00:35:16,864
I am, like, the ultimate entitled brat.
684
00:35:17,490 --> 00:35:20,785
However, I'm, I don't know,
3,000 years old.
685
00:35:21,077 --> 00:35:24,330
I know I don't look a day over 2,999,
686
00:35:24,831 --> 00:35:31,045
but for Runa, she has developed
a delicious appetite
687
00:35:31,546 --> 00:35:33,840
for creating trouble everywhere she goes.
688
00:35:33,965 --> 00:35:36,759
I'm not really Megan.
689
00:35:40,012 --> 00:35:43,891
GAO: You watch all these movies in
the MCU and everybody has awesome suits.
690
00:35:43,975 --> 00:35:46,769
You know, we just imagined like,
if we, a normal person,
691
00:35:46,853 --> 00:35:50,606
became a super hero one day, like,
would we even know who to ask?
692
00:35:50,690 --> 00:35:52,984
It's not like you can just Yelp,
"Superhero clothes".
693
00:35:53,109 --> 00:35:54,861
Who makes the stuff? Where do they shop?
694
00:35:54,944 --> 00:35:58,531
My client list is very exclusive
because my work is impeccable.
695
00:35:58,614 --> 00:36:00,158
And I'm very discreet.
696
00:36:00,616 --> 00:36:02,660
Just ask any one of the Avengers.
697
00:36:02,743 --> 00:36:06,164
When I first got the job,
I got to tour the warehouse.
698
00:36:06,247 --> 00:36:10,543
There's a Marvel warehouse in
an undisclosed location.
699
00:36:10,918 --> 00:36:15,756
And I got to tour it,
and I saw all of the incredible tailors
700
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,594
and designers making the actual costumes,
and so I learned a lot.
701
00:36:20,052 --> 00:36:22,680
There's a lot of precision,
there's a lot of artistry.
702
00:36:22,763 --> 00:36:25,016
So, it just informed my character.
703
00:36:25,099 --> 00:36:28,853
Tinsley, order extra bolts
of the stretch wool.
704
00:36:29,937 --> 00:36:31,731
We're going to need a lot.
705
00:36:33,441 --> 00:36:38,112
I also kind of went back into the archives
and got a little crazy about Basquiat.
706
00:36:38,321 --> 00:36:43,492
What I liked was the madness of his art
and also the way that he looked.
707
00:36:43,576 --> 00:36:44,619
It was so specific.
708
00:36:44,911 --> 00:36:49,624
And then I also went down
a rabbit hole of, like, black hairstyles.
709
00:36:49,707 --> 00:36:52,376
'Cause I felt like,
"Ah, what's Luke doing?"
710
00:36:52,585 --> 00:36:56,339
He's like halfway in the past
and he's, you know, in the future.
711
00:36:56,505 --> 00:37:00,676
-JEN: Oh, I like it!
-Of course you do, because I'm a genius.
712
00:37:01,260 --> 00:37:02,845
And I landed at an eighties mullet.
713
00:37:03,304 --> 00:37:05,806
I don't know who told you
that you could pull off this color,
714
00:37:05,890 --> 00:37:08,851
but you should go back to them
and shoot them.
715
00:37:09,435 --> 00:37:12,313
GAO: Now, in the post Endgame world,
you know,
716
00:37:12,438 --> 00:37:15,149
there are just more and more
and more superhumans
717
00:37:15,274 --> 00:37:18,361
and there's gotta be one spoiled rich kid
who's gonna want that,
718
00:37:18,444 --> 00:37:22,448
and then use their parents' money to fund,
forcing this to happen.
719
00:37:22,531 --> 00:37:28,913
The store might be closed,
but you forgot about the Guard Frog.
720
00:37:29,288 --> 00:37:31,999
When I put that suit on,
it was like, "Wow."
721
00:37:32,375 --> 00:37:34,001
I look in the mirror, and I'm like,
722
00:37:34,085 --> 00:37:36,837
"I can't believe that I'm in a super-suit
right now. This is insane."
723
00:37:36,921 --> 00:37:40,466
There's no shame in retreat.
Live to leap another day.
724
00:37:40,549 --> 00:37:44,011
Time to ribbit and rip it.
725
00:37:44,095 --> 00:37:46,013
That's, like, three catchphrases.
Pick a lane, man.
726
00:37:46,138 --> 00:37:47,348
Whoo!
727
00:37:50,059 --> 00:37:54,313
You know, Kat sent me a picture
the night before of, like, my throne,
728
00:37:54,397 --> 00:37:56,607
and she was just kind of like, you know,
729
00:37:56,691 --> 00:38:00,152
"Hey, just letting you know,
this is kind of what we're lookin' at
730
00:38:00,236 --> 00:38:02,196
"for your lair."
731
00:38:02,655 --> 00:38:06,117
Even then I was just like,
"What? This was made for me?"
732
00:38:06,367 --> 00:38:08,452
And then I show up that day
733
00:38:08,536 --> 00:38:11,038
and me and Griffin are kinda
walking in at the same time,
734
00:38:11,122 --> 00:38:13,833
and he was like,
"Brandon, look behind you."
735
00:38:13,916 --> 00:38:16,794
I turn around
and it's my character on the wall,
736
00:38:16,877 --> 00:38:18,296
bouncin' around and all that,
737
00:38:18,379 --> 00:38:20,131
and I said
"You've got to be kidding me."
738
00:38:20,256 --> 00:38:23,009
Guys, how do we feel about
the name Leap Squad?
739
00:38:24,051 --> 00:38:26,012
You know, like, "Leap Squad!"
740
00:38:26,137 --> 00:38:30,850
We had scouted this used auto part place.
741
00:38:30,933 --> 00:38:35,604
And we had this very dark,
stereotypical villain's lair.
742
00:38:35,688 --> 00:38:38,149
And Kevin Feige actually looked at it
and said,
743
00:38:38,232 --> 00:38:40,943
"It's cool but it feels like
it needs another layer."
744
00:38:41,027 --> 00:38:44,989
And when he said that, we kind of
went crazy with this frog theme.
745
00:38:46,073 --> 00:38:47,950
ELENA: 'Cause you think
about poisonous frogs.
746
00:38:48,117 --> 00:38:52,496
They are all colorful like a,
you know, strong yellow or blue.
747
00:38:52,580 --> 00:38:56,500
So that was kind of an inspiration
for that environment.
748
00:38:58,544 --> 00:39:00,755
I can't believe this dodo has henchmen.
749
00:39:01,380 --> 00:39:04,216
Actually, I can.
I bet these goons work for his dad.
750
00:39:04,925 --> 00:39:07,970
We were in the writers' room
and breaking the show.
751
00:39:08,054 --> 00:39:10,639
You know, we really thought
a lot of the magic of the show,
752
00:39:10,723 --> 00:39:14,727
aside from living in Jen's world,
would be tying it to the larger MCU
753
00:39:14,810 --> 00:39:17,355
with all of these different
kind of court cases.
754
00:39:17,438 --> 00:39:21,484
And I think we, we put Daredevil
on kind of, like, a wishlist,
755
00:39:21,567 --> 00:39:25,112
'cause we were all fans of Charlie's
and of the original show.
756
00:39:25,196 --> 00:39:27,281
GAO: The approach
with bringing him in was,
757
00:39:27,365 --> 00:39:29,325
"Okay, well, he's a lawyer, so, obviously,
758
00:39:29,408 --> 00:39:32,244
"you want to see the two of them
go head-to-head in the courtroom."
759
00:39:32,328 --> 00:39:33,454
But also, you know,
760
00:39:33,537 --> 00:39:38,376
he's the guy who's doing what Jen Walters
is pushing up against,
761
00:39:38,459 --> 00:39:41,754
which is to be a superhero and a lawyer
at the exact same time.
762
00:39:41,879 --> 00:39:45,132
And we wanted to make him, you know,
in keeping with the tone of the series,
763
00:39:45,216 --> 00:39:48,010
a little bit lighter,
a little bit funnier, and also,
764
00:39:48,094 --> 00:39:49,929
who doesn't want to hook up
with Daredevil?
765
00:39:50,012 --> 00:39:51,972
We're all feeling this, right,
it's not just me?
766
00:39:53,099 --> 00:39:56,727
I was doing some theater
on Broadway with Tom Hiddleston.
767
00:39:56,936 --> 00:39:59,397
And, of course, Kevin and Tom
know each other very well,
768
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,442
and Kevin came to see the play and I said
hello afterwards and shook his hand.
769
00:40:03,526 --> 00:40:07,988
But there was no conversation whatsoever
about coming back or anything like that.
770
00:40:08,072 --> 00:40:09,865
And then it was on July 10,
771
00:40:09,949 --> 00:40:13,202
I was in the garden at home and
playing with the kids and the phone rang.
772
00:40:13,369 --> 00:40:15,371
And it was Kevin Feige. And I was...
773
00:40:15,454 --> 00:40:16,789
I thought it was a prank.
774
00:40:16,956 --> 00:40:21,168
And, you know, Kevin said that they had
some plans for me and wanted me to,
775
00:40:21,252 --> 00:40:24,255
potentially do a couple of things.
He just wanted to check and see
776
00:40:24,380 --> 00:40:27,550
if I was interested and willing
to come back and be part of
777
00:40:28,259 --> 00:40:32,012
the MCU, which was,
not a hard question to answer.
778
00:40:32,221 --> 00:40:34,348
So, are you, like, a superhero?
779
00:40:34,849 --> 00:40:37,893
Like the Gold Devil?
780
00:40:39,103 --> 00:40:40,396
I'm Daredevil.
781
00:40:42,273 --> 00:40:45,693
Charlie had to inform me that
the character could not, in fact, see.
782
00:40:45,776 --> 00:40:47,862
That is not true. That's not true.
783
00:40:47,987 --> 00:40:53,826
There's a joke we have, we've always had,
which is that "It's very easy to forget."
784
00:40:53,909 --> 00:40:57,246
Because Matt Murdock is so capable,
785
00:40:57,329 --> 00:41:01,083
and that his visual impairment doesn't
actually inhibit him in any way,
786
00:41:01,208 --> 00:41:04,503
you always have to be reminded that
there are certain things...
787
00:41:04,587 --> 00:41:07,423
You can't actually really look at things
in the same way.
788
00:41:07,506 --> 00:41:10,509
But, like, it can sound really
condescending when I'm like,
789
00:41:10,593 --> 00:41:13,262
-"Yeah, he's blind, by the way."
-He's not condescending at all.
790
00:41:13,345 --> 00:41:15,306
One of the first things we had,
it was scripted,
791
00:41:15,389 --> 00:41:16,932
they look at each other and I said,
792
00:41:17,016 --> 00:41:19,351
"Oh, this is the moment
where they look at each other."
793
00:41:19,435 --> 00:41:23,355
And he so politely, he said,
"How do... Well, I, I don't...
794
00:41:23,439 --> 00:41:24,732
"He's blind."
795
00:41:24,815 --> 00:41:27,651
Remind me how many times you've taken out
a warehouse full of goons.
796
00:41:27,735 --> 00:41:29,820
Remind me again
who has the superpowers here?
797
00:41:30,529 --> 00:41:32,114
I'm pointing at myself.
798
00:41:32,281 --> 00:41:35,075
Yeah, I know.
I have echo location, remember?
799
00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:37,411
It'd been so long since
I played the character that
800
00:41:37,495 --> 00:41:38,579
it was a little bit like
801
00:41:38,662 --> 00:41:42,249
"God, I hope
I still remember who this guy is,
802
00:41:42,333 --> 00:41:43,834
"if I can still find the feelings."
803
00:41:43,918 --> 00:41:46,003
The suit helped that,
I put that on, I was like,
804
00:41:46,086 --> 00:41:47,087
"I remember this."
805
00:41:47,213 --> 00:41:50,799
It was really, really fun seeing
Daredevil in his suit.
806
00:41:50,883 --> 00:41:54,637
On the day Charlie came out in the suit,
but he didn't have the cowl on yet
807
00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:57,806
and he gets to his mark and
he's in position and everybody's ready,
808
00:41:57,890 --> 00:42:01,310
and the very last thing he did
was finally put the cowl on.
809
00:42:01,393 --> 00:42:03,312
I love this sound.
810
00:42:03,479 --> 00:42:05,898
And as soon as that cowl was on his head,
811
00:42:05,981 --> 00:42:07,942
all of the extras,
we had a big crowd,
812
00:42:08,025 --> 00:42:10,110
and all of them
started applauding and cheering,
813
00:42:10,194 --> 00:42:11,445
and it was just so cool.
814
00:42:11,529 --> 00:42:13,739
I feel like I've actually
come out of retirement.
815
00:42:15,032 --> 00:42:17,993
They asked me to come to Los Angeles
to have a suit fitting.
816
00:42:18,285 --> 00:42:21,330
And I assumed it was just
to see if the old one still fit.
817
00:42:21,497 --> 00:42:23,332
Make sure I haven't put
on too much weight.
818
00:42:23,415 --> 00:42:25,584
And, so I flew in.
I went to the costume department
819
00:42:25,668 --> 00:42:29,255
and on the wall, there was a graphic
of a superhero suit.
820
00:42:29,338 --> 00:42:32,341
Initially I was like, "Is tha..."
I couldn't figure out who it was.
821
00:42:32,424 --> 00:42:34,385
I realized it was the new Daredevil suit,
822
00:42:34,468 --> 00:42:37,471
and they'd incorporated
the gold or the yellow
823
00:42:37,555 --> 00:42:39,682
from some of the earlier Daredevil comics.
824
00:42:39,807 --> 00:42:43,352
It feels like this is the first step
in an evolution of this suit
825
00:42:43,435 --> 00:42:45,646
which is why it has
the gold panels in there.
826
00:42:45,729 --> 00:42:50,651
It's almost meant to feel a little bit
like a primer part of the suit.
827
00:42:50,734 --> 00:42:54,280
And it's really fun
seeing Charlie in that suit.
828
00:42:54,780 --> 00:42:57,533
-Think I'm gonna wear it home.
-Okay. See you later.
829
00:42:59,159 --> 00:43:00,369
You need to back off.
830
00:43:00,494 --> 00:43:01,579
And waste this outfit?
831
00:43:01,662 --> 00:43:03,122
The suits are amazing.
832
00:43:03,205 --> 00:43:06,208
And I'm so excited, personally,
about her suit
833
00:43:06,292 --> 00:43:08,586
because it was something that,
834
00:43:08,669 --> 00:43:12,089
you know, we as a team really developed
and really talked about.
835
00:43:12,214 --> 00:43:15,217
We look at who, you know,
she was in the comics
836
00:43:15,301 --> 00:43:16,802
when she was in the suit,
837
00:43:17,094 --> 00:43:22,933
what elements of that suit were important
to everybody and especially color palette.
838
00:43:23,017 --> 00:43:26,186
And so, all of us together
trying to figure out
839
00:43:26,312 --> 00:43:29,148
what is gonna be
the best look for Tatiana.
840
00:43:29,273 --> 00:43:33,569
One of the things we wanted to accomplish
with her suit was have it be powerful,
841
00:43:33,652 --> 00:43:37,698
you know, not be male-gazey
and all hypersexual.
842
00:43:37,781 --> 00:43:41,285
But also be free and show her body off.
843
00:43:43,621 --> 00:43:44,747
She-Hulk smash.
844
00:43:44,913 --> 00:43:48,542
It's cool to take a character
who isn't slick and isn't cool
845
00:43:48,626 --> 00:43:53,589
and isn't confident physically
or any of that and put her in this suit
846
00:43:53,672 --> 00:43:55,591
that feels very confident.
847
00:43:55,674 --> 00:44:00,429
And it does change me and it does
feel like I can feel Jen's excitement.
848
00:44:00,846 --> 00:44:03,307
And like her, kind of,
wonder at getting to be...
849
00:44:03,390 --> 00:44:05,184
Like, I, I'm going, like,
850
00:44:05,267 --> 00:44:08,520
"Oh, my God, I get to be a superhero
the same way that I think she is."
851
00:44:09,188 --> 00:44:10,397
(GROANS)
852
00:44:10,814 --> 00:44:11,982
Gotcha.
853
00:44:13,942 --> 00:44:17,071
GAO: We really, really,
really struggled with the finale.
854
00:44:17,154 --> 00:44:20,699
We started off doing a lot of versions
of the finale that were much more
855
00:44:20,783 --> 00:44:23,827
just like straight and very,
very Marvel movie, you know,
856
00:44:23,911 --> 00:44:26,664
and it just never felt right for us
to just end in, like,
857
00:44:26,747 --> 00:44:31,168
a big set piece fight and you know,
and take out the bad guy
858
00:44:31,251 --> 00:44:35,047
and it just always felt like,
"Oh, it's a different show now."
859
00:44:35,130 --> 00:44:37,925
And Kevin was the first to kind of
pinpoint that. He was like,
860
00:44:38,008 --> 00:44:39,426
"This isn't a Marvel movie.
861
00:44:39,510 --> 00:44:41,887
"Why are you trying to make it end
like a Marvel movie?
862
00:44:41,970 --> 00:44:43,389
"That's not what the show is."
863
00:44:43,472 --> 00:44:47,101
And it was just really, really wonderful
and freeing for him to say that.
864
00:44:47,267 --> 00:44:49,478
This is not gonna work, right?
865
00:44:50,145 --> 00:44:51,647
We're not actually doing this?
866
00:44:52,398 --> 00:44:55,901
BASS: At the end of the day,
Todd really just knows that, like,
867
00:44:55,984 --> 00:44:59,363
he would be definitely the coolest Hulk.
868
00:44:59,446 --> 00:45:02,032
Maybe not the strongest,
definitely not the tallest.
869
00:45:02,116 --> 00:45:07,746
I am, as I've been told,
I believe, the shortest Hulk to date.
870
00:45:07,830 --> 00:45:08,914
(GRUNTS)
871
00:45:09,081 --> 00:45:10,290
(SCREAMS)
872
00:45:10,374 --> 00:45:11,375
Oh. Gross.
873
00:45:12,835 --> 00:45:18,465
The challenge with the finale was blocking
and there's four CG characters.
874
00:45:18,882 --> 00:45:19,925
Oh, my gosh. Yeah.
875
00:45:20,008 --> 00:45:24,012
Then we have Abomination,
who's picking Jen up and holding her up
876
00:45:24,096 --> 00:45:25,514
while he's fighting other people.
877
00:45:25,681 --> 00:45:26,807
Get her!
878
00:45:26,890 --> 00:45:28,058
JEN: Stop!
879
00:45:28,142 --> 00:45:30,686
GANDERTON: And then Hulk arrives.
880
00:45:30,811 --> 00:45:31,979
(GRUNTS)
881
00:45:32,146 --> 00:45:33,605
GANDERTON: You have Todd-Hulk.
882
00:45:33,689 --> 00:45:35,399
Yeah, come at me, bro.
883
00:45:35,524 --> 00:45:36,692
(ALL CHEERING)
884
00:45:36,817 --> 00:45:37,901
Surprise, losers.
885
00:45:38,152 --> 00:45:39,611
GANDERTON: And then Jameela fighting.
886
00:45:39,695 --> 00:45:41,363
God! Does that bitch ever use a door?
887
00:45:41,447 --> 00:45:45,033
Just doing the blocking and the design
and making sure each character had
888
00:45:45,117 --> 00:45:49,121
the right moment for them and
then trying to tie all that in together.
889
00:45:49,288 --> 00:45:50,789
It's like a really cool thing.
890
00:45:52,249 --> 00:45:55,919
You just go home, and you go,
"That was pretty wild today,
891
00:45:56,003 --> 00:46:01,341
"acting opposite Ruffalo and,
and Maslany in their CGI dots,"
892
00:46:01,425 --> 00:46:04,386
and you know that
that's gonna turn into
893
00:46:04,470 --> 00:46:06,305
what it's gonna turn into and...
894
00:46:06,638 --> 00:46:09,975
It's pretty crazy. This whole thing
is pretty wild and special.
895
00:46:10,142 --> 00:46:12,811
None of these storylines make any sense.
896
00:46:14,563 --> 00:46:15,606
Is this working for you?
897
00:46:17,649 --> 00:46:19,485
Hey, what do you think you're doing?
898
00:46:19,610 --> 00:46:22,488
I've been in the Marvel Universe
for almost ten years now.
899
00:46:22,571 --> 00:46:28,327
And I could say that I've never done
anything that has been
900
00:46:28,410 --> 00:46:31,246
so close to destroying
the Marvel Cinematic Universe
901
00:46:31,330 --> 00:46:32,998
as this show has.
902
00:46:34,583 --> 00:46:40,255
There's a lot of ways that the show
kinda busts through to the viewer,
903
00:46:40,380 --> 00:46:45,677
the same way that She-Hulk in the comics
spoke to the writer and the illustrator.
904
00:46:45,761 --> 00:46:48,013
And sort of, like,
tried to guide her story.
905
00:46:48,096 --> 00:46:49,681
Ah, Marvel: Assembled.
906
00:46:49,765 --> 00:46:50,766
That'll do. (GRUNTS)
907
00:46:52,267 --> 00:46:54,394
GAO: It was Kevin who actually pitched
908
00:46:54,478 --> 00:46:58,023
She-Hulk coming out of
the Disney Plus menu.
909
00:46:58,106 --> 00:47:01,568
I can't remember
how we got to it but at one point,
910
00:47:01,652 --> 00:47:05,697
I had pitched that she should go through
the studio and demand to talk to Kevin.
911
00:47:05,781 --> 00:47:09,159
Wow, She-Hulk. Welcome to Marvel Studios.
How can we help you?
912
00:47:09,243 --> 00:47:10,327
I need to talk to Kevin.
913
00:47:10,410 --> 00:47:13,288
GAO: And at first, I pitched that
she would finally get to, like,
914
00:47:13,372 --> 00:47:14,706
the inner sanctum of Kevin
915
00:47:14,832 --> 00:47:17,709
and we'd stunt-cast it with, like,
Jon Hamm or some...
916
00:47:17,793 --> 00:47:19,586
Or George Clooney, like,
917
00:47:19,670 --> 00:47:22,714
some debonair handsome man in a tuxedo
and that was Kevin.
918
00:47:22,798 --> 00:47:26,009
But then I was like,
"No, no, no, no. It should be, like,
919
00:47:26,093 --> 00:47:30,222
"an Akira style, like AI kind of,
you know, monstrous machine."
920
00:47:30,389 --> 00:47:31,974
K.E.V.I.N: Hello, Jennifer.
921
00:47:33,100 --> 00:47:34,393
Kevin?
922
00:47:34,643 --> 00:47:39,189
It stands for "Knowledge Enhanced
Visual Interconnectivity Nexus."
923
00:47:39,690 --> 00:47:41,108
Were you expecting a man?
924
00:47:41,650 --> 00:47:46,655
Yeah. Why would I expect
a giant AI brain and not a man?
925
00:47:46,738 --> 00:47:49,408
It's so nuts. It's so absurd.
926
00:47:50,075 --> 00:47:52,995
But I just can't wait to see
how that sequence comes together.
927
00:47:53,078 --> 00:47:56,123
Because again,
it was like in a mo-cap suit.
928
00:47:56,206 --> 00:47:58,667
I can't imagine what it'll look like
when it's She-Hulk.
929
00:47:58,750 --> 00:48:01,962
Wait. So, you're the one
who's making all the decisions here?
930
00:48:02,045 --> 00:48:03,839
I will answer your questions.
931
00:48:03,922 --> 00:48:06,675
But you must first
transform back to Jennifer.
932
00:48:06,758 --> 00:48:07,759
Why?
933
00:48:07,885 --> 00:48:10,429
-You are very expensive.
-Oh, sure.
934
00:48:10,512 --> 00:48:12,556
But wait until the camera is off you.
935
00:48:12,639 --> 00:48:15,434
The visual effects team
has moved on to another project.
936
00:48:15,517 --> 00:48:18,562
-Okay.
-There. Do it now.
937
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:21,732
-Better?
-Thank you.
938
00:48:22,858 --> 00:48:27,154
GAO: In the script, I specified that
when you meet the AI K.E.V.I.N,
939
00:48:27,237 --> 00:48:31,283
that it was just wearing
a classic Kevin Feige black baseball hat.
940
00:48:31,408 --> 00:48:34,494
VisDev was doing different
concept drawings of Kevin
941
00:48:34,578 --> 00:48:37,122
and he always had
a little black baseball hat.
942
00:48:37,205 --> 00:48:40,834
And then when Kevin saw it,
the real Kevin, he was like,
943
00:48:40,918 --> 00:48:43,754
"That doesn't make any sense.
Why would a machine make a hat?"
944
00:48:43,837 --> 00:48:45,672
I was like, "You have a problem with that?
945
00:48:45,756 --> 00:48:47,507
"That's where you
draw the line with logic?
946
00:48:47,591 --> 00:48:52,387
"That the machine that is you,
who is behind the entire Marvel Universe
947
00:48:52,471 --> 00:48:54,514
"is wearing a baseball hat?"
948
00:48:54,598 --> 00:48:56,808
I leave that debate up to the Internet.
949
00:48:56,892 --> 00:49:00,228
GAO: So, they designed
what looks like a hat
950
00:49:00,312 --> 00:49:03,398
built into the machine
so that it is part of the machine,
951
00:49:03,482 --> 00:49:04,900
but it still looks like a hat.
952
00:49:05,067 --> 00:49:07,444
And that's kind of the happy medium
that we arrived on.
953
00:49:07,569 --> 00:49:10,614
You will not be able
to access the K-E-V-I-N again.
954
00:49:10,739 --> 00:49:11,782
What?
955
00:49:11,865 --> 00:49:13,700
That error on our platform has been fixed.
956
00:49:13,825 --> 00:49:17,162
So, get your K.E.V.I.N. hats
at the Disney store.
957
00:49:17,329 --> 00:49:18,413
Welcome.
958
00:49:18,622 --> 00:49:20,248
Wonder if I get a discount here.
959
00:49:20,624 --> 00:49:22,542
-Twenty percent.
-I'll take it.
960
00:49:24,044 --> 00:49:28,382
It still continues to be like a thing
I'm trying to wrap my head around.
961
00:49:28,465 --> 00:49:32,052
Like, when we're on set,
doing stuff like on location like this.
962
00:49:32,135 --> 00:49:35,764
I start to remember that this is, like,
a whole universe that I'm part of.
963
00:49:35,847 --> 00:49:40,560
This is a multi-year journey
you're about to embark on,
964
00:49:40,644 --> 00:49:43,522
on coming to terms with being the Hulk.
965
00:49:43,647 --> 00:49:45,649
It took a little bit of
getting used to at first,
966
00:49:45,732 --> 00:49:49,444
just how interconnected
everything has to be in the MCU.
967
00:49:49,528 --> 00:49:54,199
But then it is cool later on
when you kind of see like
968
00:49:54,282 --> 00:49:57,828
the threads of different stories
and characters going through,
969
00:49:57,911 --> 00:49:59,621
like, multiple projects.
970
00:49:59,705 --> 00:50:01,999
You got sucked
in another show, didn't you?
971
00:50:02,332 --> 00:50:06,503
RUFFALO: Marvel has never let
the weight of the Universe
972
00:50:06,586 --> 00:50:09,881
drag them into something boring.
973
00:50:09,965 --> 00:50:12,968
Because of it, it's alive
and it's constantly shifting,
974
00:50:13,093 --> 00:50:14,761
just like the comics were.
975
00:50:14,845 --> 00:50:16,013
It's good.
976
00:50:16,555 --> 00:50:18,348
-It's good to be a Hulk.
-Yeah.
977
00:50:18,432 --> 00:50:20,600
VALIA: It is such an incredible honor
978
00:50:20,684 --> 00:50:27,524
to be able to be a small part
of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
979
00:50:27,607 --> 00:50:30,569
Like, it's such grand storytelling.
980
00:50:31,236 --> 00:50:34,740
So, to be able to come in
and get to work with these actors,
981
00:50:34,865 --> 00:50:38,285
and get to work with these writers
and with Kevin, it's just, like...
982
00:50:38,618 --> 00:50:40,746
"I can't believe it.
What am I doing here?"
983
00:50:40,829 --> 00:50:41,913
(LAUGHS)
984
00:50:41,997 --> 00:50:44,332
That was so good. That was it!
985
00:50:44,583 --> 00:50:46,626
JACOBSON: Being here
seeing it all come to fruition
986
00:50:46,710 --> 00:50:48,587
and seeing what every single person
987
00:50:48,670 --> 00:50:51,965
has added to what I already thought
was a really special project
988
00:50:52,090 --> 00:50:53,967
has been the biggest highlight for me.
989
00:50:54,051 --> 00:50:57,262
COIRO: When I would have hard days,
or something didn't go right,
990
00:50:57,387 --> 00:50:59,056
or I felt tired or frustrated...
991
00:50:59,139 --> 00:51:00,932
Trying to remember my Doctor Strange.
992
00:51:01,058 --> 00:51:03,602
...I'd just pull up
one of my favorite little scenes
993
00:51:03,685 --> 00:51:06,229
and watch it and be like,
"We're doing this."
994
00:51:07,397 --> 00:51:09,691
I think everybody is
just so excited to be here,
995
00:51:09,775 --> 00:51:12,319
so everyone's bringing this really,
996
00:51:12,444 --> 00:51:15,405
positive, collaborative energy.
997
00:51:15,530 --> 00:51:16,573
(ALL LAUGHING)
998
00:51:16,656 --> 00:51:18,700
It's been an embarrassment of riches.
999
00:51:18,909 --> 00:51:22,579
We keep one-uping how cool everyone is
and that just makes it so fun.
1000
00:51:22,662 --> 00:51:25,123
I remember distinctly,
when we were wrapping,
1001
00:51:25,207 --> 00:51:29,169
I was like, "I don't know if I'm gonna
have an experience like this again."
1002
00:51:29,252 --> 00:51:30,962
And I'm so grateful for it.
1003
00:51:31,588 --> 00:51:32,881
(ALL CHEERING)
1004
00:51:33,131 --> 00:51:35,050
Yes, yes, yes, yes!
1005
00:51:38,136 --> 00:51:40,138
(FUNKY INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PLAYING)
1006
00:51:48,688 --> 00:51:50,315
It takes shield's power.
1007
00:51:50,941 --> 00:51:53,527
You've taken me from zero
to just above zero.
1008
00:51:55,445 --> 00:51:56,571
(GRUNTS)
1009
00:51:58,782 --> 00:51:59,783
(GROANS)
1010
00:51:59,908 --> 00:52:01,243
Was that a spoiler?
1011
00:52:02,244 --> 00:52:03,787
Can we rewind the tape?
1012
00:52:03,870 --> 00:52:05,122
(GRUNTS)
1013
00:52:05,205 --> 00:52:07,707
It's not that I'm into superheroes.
1014
00:52:07,791 --> 00:52:11,378
I'm just more attracted to superheroes.
Okay? That's not weird. You know?
1015
00:52:11,461 --> 00:52:13,880
You're the weird one,
for saying that that's weird.
1016
00:52:13,964 --> 00:52:16,758
So, I'm having trouble
remembering the line.
1017
00:52:17,008 --> 00:52:19,970
(BANNER AND JEN SCREAMING)
1018
00:52:24,850 --> 00:52:27,978
It was easy. I wasn't scared at all.
Not for a second.
1019
00:52:28,436 --> 00:52:29,813
I'm taking this.
1020
00:52:30,939 --> 00:52:32,065
Is this gluten free?
1021
00:52:32,732 --> 00:52:33,733
Is it?
1022
00:52:34,025 --> 00:52:35,026
Oh, whatever.
1023
00:52:37,362 --> 00:52:40,949
So, um... Yeah, I wanna go with
the burned sienna, or just sienna.
1024
00:52:41,032 --> 00:52:44,286
Have you heard of the saying that
it's dangerous to corner a wild frog?
1025
00:52:44,703 --> 00:52:49,791
Actually, have Carrington,
and Bob Thompson just switch jobs.
1026
00:52:49,958 --> 00:52:52,043
All buzz, no bad.
1027
00:52:52,502 --> 00:52:53,628
(BOTH CHUCKLE)
1028
00:52:54,004 --> 00:52:55,463
Yeah. Okay.
1029
00:52:55,672 --> 00:52:58,967
These are... These are...
These are all for you, bruh.
1030
00:52:59,050 --> 00:53:00,927
-These are all for you, bruh.
-Okay.
1031
00:53:01,052 --> 00:53:04,681
-A bodacious buzz, no bleh.
-All right. Okay.
1032
00:53:05,015 --> 00:53:07,684
Oh, and find out
if my sister's still alive.
1033
00:53:08,226 --> 00:53:13,440
I am still prettier than all of you.
(SOBBING)
1034
00:53:15,775 --> 00:53:17,485
-(ALL EXCLAIMING)
-(JAMEELA LAUGHS)