1 00:00:04,129 --> 00:00:08,550 I'd been trying to get my dirty, little fingers into Marvel for years, 2 00:00:08,675 --> 00:00:12,137 so I go in, I meet with Brad Winderbaum for the Black Widow movie. 3 00:00:12,220 --> 00:00:17,767 I loved She-Hulk so much even then, that I put her into my Black Widow pitch. 4 00:00:17,851 --> 00:00:19,352 At one point, he even said like, 5 00:00:19,436 --> 00:00:23,023 "Kinda feels like you're pitching a She-Hulk story with Black Widow in it," 6 00:00:23,106 --> 00:00:24,274 and I said, "Guilty." 7 00:00:24,399 --> 00:00:27,986 So, when I didn't get that job, my parting shot to them was, 8 00:00:28,069 --> 00:00:31,823 "If you ever do do She-Hulk, you better call me, because if you don't, 9 00:00:31,906 --> 00:00:33,825 "I'll burn this building to the ground." 10 00:00:33,908 --> 00:00:36,411 Kevin makes the announcement that they're gonna do She-Hulk 11 00:00:36,494 --> 00:00:38,580 as a series and I'm furious, 12 00:00:38,663 --> 00:00:40,206 because I look at my phone, I'm like, 13 00:00:40,290 --> 00:00:42,417 "I don't have any missed calls from Marvel Studios. 14 00:00:42,500 --> 00:00:43,918 "I told them what would happen." 15 00:00:44,002 --> 00:00:46,963 And my fiancé was, of course, like, "Chill out, dude." 16 00:00:47,047 --> 00:00:49,257 And then literally the next day, I got a call, 17 00:00:49,340 --> 00:00:51,885 you know, from Marvel to see if I wanted to pitch on She-Hulk 18 00:00:51,968 --> 00:00:53,094 and of course I was like, 19 00:00:53,178 --> 00:00:55,638 "I think I heard something about an announcement?" 20 00:01:04,773 --> 00:01:08,276 I was actually a huge fan of She-Hulk as a kid. 21 00:01:08,359 --> 00:01:10,070 She was, kind of, in my mind, 22 00:01:10,153 --> 00:01:14,407 the only really badass female superhero who had her own comic books. 23 00:01:17,035 --> 00:01:19,329 WENDY JACOBSON: In her actual pitch to get hired, 24 00:01:19,454 --> 00:01:21,039 Kat had a picture of her 25 00:01:21,122 --> 00:01:22,791 as a "scrawny teenager," 26 00:01:22,874 --> 00:01:24,876 you know, reading the She-Hulk comic. 27 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:26,753 She used to go every week and get it, 28 00:01:26,836 --> 00:01:29,422 and it was this exciting, formative thing. 29 00:01:29,547 --> 00:01:32,175 COIRO: It was right as everything was going down with the pandemic, 30 00:01:32,258 --> 00:01:36,096 I had my first meeting, and it was, kind of, you know, horrible for the world, 31 00:01:36,179 --> 00:01:39,265 but great timing, because my husband, Rhys, 32 00:01:39,349 --> 00:01:41,059 actually owned all the old comics, 33 00:01:41,142 --> 00:01:44,521 and we went to his mom's basement and pulled them up, 34 00:01:44,604 --> 00:01:48,233 and I got to, kind of, go back through all these comics that I'd loved, 35 00:01:48,316 --> 00:01:51,611 and really remember what was so exciting about She-Hulk. 36 00:01:51,694 --> 00:01:55,323 And what was so exciting about her is that she broke the fourth wall, 37 00:01:55,406 --> 00:02:00,161 and she was so irreverent, and she was so big, and strong, and bold, 38 00:02:00,245 --> 00:02:04,541 and so many of the things that she did are, kind of, groundbreaking. 39 00:02:09,254 --> 00:02:12,423 ANU VALIA: What I love about Jen's story is, she's this young woman 40 00:02:12,507 --> 00:02:15,009 who spent so much time working, 41 00:02:15,176 --> 00:02:18,680 and hasn't really had the chance to grow her life romantically, 42 00:02:18,763 --> 00:02:20,390 to spend time with her friends, 43 00:02:20,473 --> 00:02:25,061 to just, like, live a fun life as a young adult woman, and then, 44 00:02:25,145 --> 00:02:27,313 this huge thing happens to her and it's like, 45 00:02:27,397 --> 00:02:30,984 how do you, sort of, navigate just your everyday life, 46 00:02:31,067 --> 00:02:33,611 trying to be good at your job, trying to be a good friend, 47 00:02:33,736 --> 00:02:37,615 trying to figure out, sort of, what you want as a person, 48 00:02:37,699 --> 00:02:40,076 and then as a Hulk. 49 00:02:40,285 --> 00:02:43,371 What are you talking about? I'm not gonna be a superhero. 50 00:02:43,872 --> 00:02:45,415 (CHUCKLES) 51 00:02:45,748 --> 00:02:47,500 BANNER: What else ya gonna do as a Hulk? 52 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,296 Return to my career. 53 00:02:51,462 --> 00:02:54,007 What I love most about Jen, Jen/She-Hulk 54 00:02:54,465 --> 00:02:56,176 is just her contradiction. 55 00:02:56,259 --> 00:03:02,807 She's just so completely fixated on work, and yet she also has this huge heart, 56 00:03:02,891 --> 00:03:05,393 and just wants to fall in love, and all of that. 57 00:03:05,476 --> 00:03:07,979 And also that she, in one sense, 58 00:03:08,104 --> 00:03:11,566 loves being She-Hulk and at the same time resents it. 59 00:03:11,649 --> 00:03:15,904 She's kind of directly in that contradiction. 60 00:03:15,987 --> 00:03:19,324 We just started a superhuman law division, 61 00:03:19,407 --> 00:03:22,702 and I want you, well, the She-Hulk, to be the face of it. 62 00:03:22,785 --> 00:03:23,786 Oh. 63 00:03:23,870 --> 00:03:26,164 JACOBSON: There was conversation even in the methodology 64 00:03:26,247 --> 00:03:27,457 about how we shoot this. 65 00:03:27,582 --> 00:03:28,875 At one point, we talked about, 66 00:03:28,958 --> 00:03:31,920 are we gonna go old school and do it like Bill Bixby, 67 00:03:32,003 --> 00:03:33,671 and, and Lou Ferrigno, and find 68 00:03:33,755 --> 00:03:36,174 you know, a great actor who's of a certain height, 69 00:03:36,257 --> 00:03:39,677 and then have a bodybuilder playing She-Hulk. 70 00:03:39,802 --> 00:03:41,554 There were so many different discussions, 71 00:03:41,679 --> 00:03:44,515 we went down so many different paths, and at the end of the day, 72 00:03:44,599 --> 00:03:48,061 it really landed with, "We need to find the best actor for this job 73 00:03:48,144 --> 00:03:51,231 "who's gonna bring the most to the role," because ultimately, 74 00:03:51,314 --> 00:03:55,902 she's going to be a six-foot-seven, green computer-generated image, 75 00:03:55,985 --> 00:03:59,239 and we all need to feel like this is a real human being, 76 00:03:59,322 --> 00:04:01,241 and buy what she's selling. 77 00:04:01,866 --> 00:04:04,911 These dodos never had to deal with this on the first day of the job. 78 00:04:04,994 --> 00:04:06,996 I hope they die in a fire. 79 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,291 Not really, they can die of old age, but like, tomorrow. 80 00:04:11,709 --> 00:04:14,379 GAO: I always thought of this as a comedic role, 81 00:04:14,462 --> 00:04:17,173 and so I always thought like we need a very comedic actress. 82 00:04:17,257 --> 00:04:19,425 You know, has to be a very, very comedic person, 83 00:04:19,509 --> 00:04:22,345 who has a ton of comedy experience, 84 00:04:22,428 --> 00:04:25,223 but when we cast Tatiana, it was like, 85 00:04:25,306 --> 00:04:29,018 she made me change the way I think about this character. 86 00:04:29,227 --> 00:04:31,938 Like, she turned Jennifer Walters and She-Hulk into a real person. 87 00:04:32,021 --> 00:04:35,149 I'm a Hulk. Why don't I just smash our way in? 88 00:04:35,275 --> 00:04:36,818 Because they have weapons, Jennifer. 89 00:04:36,901 --> 00:04:40,029 (WHISPERS) Yeah, well, good thing She-Hulk is indestructible, Matthew. 90 00:04:40,154 --> 00:04:43,533 Not only am I, like, stepping into, like, being a superhero for the first time, 91 00:04:43,616 --> 00:04:46,286 but I'm also, like getting to do a flat-out comedy, 92 00:04:46,369 --> 00:04:47,912 which is just so exciting. 93 00:04:47,996 --> 00:04:51,124 And like with, you know, writing like Jessica's, 94 00:04:51,207 --> 00:04:55,461 it's just so easy, and all of our day players are like amazing, 95 00:04:55,545 --> 00:04:58,840 all of the guest stars, like, it's just an incredible group of people, 96 00:04:58,923 --> 00:05:04,178 so it just feels really, for the first time, like, total play, um, 97 00:05:04,262 --> 00:05:06,889 which I've experienced in little doses, 98 00:05:06,973 --> 00:05:09,392 but this feels like totally a different world. 99 00:05:09,517 --> 00:05:12,979 Who are the two least likely people to play Hulk? 100 00:05:13,187 --> 00:05:16,190 She's actually hysterical. 101 00:05:16,274 --> 00:05:20,611 -Well, I disagree, but I'm having fun. -You're really funny. 102 00:05:21,154 --> 00:05:24,741 -You can do comedy really well. -This guy's the fun one. 103 00:05:24,824 --> 00:05:26,576 I... I have never had the chance. 104 00:05:26,701 --> 00:05:30,246 I know, isn't it... Don't you feel like, as a serious actor, 105 00:05:30,330 --> 00:05:32,874 you get stuck doing serious things, 106 00:05:32,957 --> 00:05:35,501 -when all you really wanna do is comedy? -MASLANY: Yeah. 107 00:05:35,710 --> 00:05:38,379 -What? -Don't make me angry. 108 00:05:39,047 --> 00:05:40,840 You wouldn't like as me... 109 00:05:41,007 --> 00:05:42,759 (BOTH LAUGHING) 110 00:05:46,429 --> 00:05:48,389 SHANNON JUSTISON: For She-Hulk we were really keen 111 00:05:48,514 --> 00:05:50,099 on it being Tatiana's performance. 112 00:05:50,183 --> 00:05:52,477 Our whole goal was to not keyframe her face. 113 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,937 She's amazing. You want all that performance. 114 00:05:55,063 --> 00:05:58,149 And, so, she was wearing of course the full mo-cap suit 115 00:05:58,232 --> 00:06:00,485 which gets her physical, her body performance, 116 00:06:00,568 --> 00:06:03,738 and then she had what we call an HMC or a head mounted camera on. 117 00:06:03,821 --> 00:06:05,907 And it's recording all those little dots 118 00:06:05,990 --> 00:06:10,411 and then those dots are then piped into a system that can then read that in 119 00:06:10,536 --> 00:06:12,955 and translate that into facial motion. 120 00:06:13,081 --> 00:06:15,833 MAN: Scrunch your face left. Scrunch your face right. 121 00:06:15,917 --> 00:06:20,046 Blink. Blink right. Blink left. Good. 122 00:06:20,129 --> 00:06:22,215 JUSTISON: So the gold standard for motion capture 123 00:06:22,298 --> 00:06:23,883 is what we call optical capture, 124 00:06:23,966 --> 00:06:26,844 that's what you would probably recognize as having the little like, 125 00:06:26,928 --> 00:06:28,429 what looks like ping-pong balls, 126 00:06:28,513 --> 00:06:32,100 what we call retro reflective markers all over at certain points on the body. 127 00:06:32,183 --> 00:06:35,228 It also requires about 50 cameras set up in a volume, 128 00:06:35,311 --> 00:06:38,314 and those all have to be perfectly set up and then calibrated, 129 00:06:38,398 --> 00:06:40,983 obviously there's a big up time with hanging all those cameras, 130 00:06:41,067 --> 00:06:43,361 and then any scenes where there's a lot of crowds, 131 00:06:43,444 --> 00:06:45,947 she's sitting at her desk, suddenly her legs are blocked, 132 00:06:46,030 --> 00:06:47,490 we can't see her pelvis anymore. 133 00:06:47,573 --> 00:06:50,618 That's when we would use an inertial suit. 134 00:06:50,743 --> 00:06:55,164 Inertial suits, they rely on little sensors that are built into the suit, 135 00:06:55,331 --> 00:06:57,917 that also is just on a signal. 136 00:06:58,334 --> 00:07:02,463 So there's a little station that we set up and it talks to all of the sensors. 137 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,257 The only tricky thing with that, 138 00:07:04,340 --> 00:07:06,551 it's not as precise as the optical capture. 139 00:07:06,634 --> 00:07:08,886 So the inertial tended to go with us on location, 140 00:07:08,970 --> 00:07:10,680 for quick setup and tear down, 141 00:07:10,763 --> 00:07:14,308 optical any time we were in a big set, we were gonna be there for a few days. 142 00:07:14,392 --> 00:07:16,561 We did everything. We did mo-cap, 143 00:07:16,644 --> 00:07:17,770 we did facial capture, 144 00:07:17,854 --> 00:07:20,356 we did Tatiana doing all the takes 145 00:07:20,481 --> 00:07:23,484 as well as doing a stunt double doing the takes as well as 146 00:07:23,568 --> 00:07:27,071 animation trying to track the motion capture. 147 00:07:27,155 --> 00:07:29,323 Tatiana has her frame, 148 00:07:29,407 --> 00:07:31,784 and it's quite different to what She-Hulk is, 149 00:07:31,868 --> 00:07:34,370 so Tatiana doing this is one thing. 150 00:07:34,454 --> 00:07:36,539 When you have She-Hulk, it feels this! 151 00:07:36,622 --> 00:07:39,709 And people don't talk this way! But that's how it translates 152 00:07:39,792 --> 00:07:43,004 when you are the height that she is and the size that she is. 153 00:07:43,087 --> 00:07:47,884 So we had to do a lot of, maybe, taming 154 00:07:47,967 --> 00:07:51,429 the straight translation from what Tatiana did to She-Hulk, 155 00:07:51,512 --> 00:07:54,182 so that it would feel within character, 156 00:07:54,265 --> 00:07:56,309 and it didn't become a caricature. 157 00:07:56,517 --> 00:07:59,187 JUSTISON: Someone like She-Hulk is very time intensive. 158 00:07:59,353 --> 00:08:03,483 She also has additional complications in that she's got long-flowing hair, 159 00:08:03,566 --> 00:08:07,069 so she's automatically more difficult than other characters. 160 00:08:07,153 --> 00:08:10,198 She also has 25 costumes, which is unheard of. 161 00:08:10,406 --> 00:08:13,409 We only started from a core from the wardrobe department 162 00:08:13,493 --> 00:08:15,870 and then we would kinda take it from there. 163 00:08:15,953 --> 00:08:20,625 For the show, we also had an actress, Malia, who was 6'7, 164 00:08:20,708 --> 00:08:23,920 and so she would wear a practical version of the costume 165 00:08:24,003 --> 00:08:26,631 and that was really valuable reference for us in visual effects. 166 00:08:26,714 --> 00:08:29,217 That was one of the funnest things about this character, 167 00:08:29,342 --> 00:08:33,095 was getting to do both versions of these costumes, 168 00:08:33,179 --> 00:08:38,935 what they look like on Tatiana, as Jen, and then as She-Hulk. 169 00:08:39,060 --> 00:08:41,562 We actually had a body form made, 170 00:08:41,646 --> 00:08:45,066 based off of what She-Hulk's measurements would have been, 171 00:08:45,149 --> 00:08:47,485 and we had that as a reference 172 00:08:47,568 --> 00:08:50,279 when we were making those costumes, so that we could see, 173 00:08:50,363 --> 00:08:53,866 like the aftermath of the suit after she has her transformation. 174 00:08:53,991 --> 00:08:59,455 We studied a lot of different transformations on camera. 175 00:08:59,539 --> 00:09:01,499 There's so many different ways to do it. 176 00:09:01,582 --> 00:09:04,043 And the truth is, with Jennifer turning into She-Hulk, 177 00:09:04,126 --> 00:09:07,338 it's meant to be this very seamless, natural, easy thing. 178 00:09:07,421 --> 00:09:10,675 Yeah. All the way down, small, impish. 179 00:09:10,758 --> 00:09:13,803 One of the things that we really responded to in visual effects 180 00:09:13,886 --> 00:09:16,097 was pulling up this reference material. 181 00:09:16,180 --> 00:09:19,892 There was a time lapse video of a strawberry ripening, 182 00:09:19,976 --> 00:09:22,895 and that was kind of, the biggest inspiration. 183 00:09:22,979 --> 00:09:25,815 -See? -No, I'm doing this. 184 00:09:25,940 --> 00:09:28,401 Okay, this is completely new territory. 185 00:09:30,695 --> 00:09:36,158 We are in studio. We're doing the scenes where, 186 00:09:36,242 --> 00:09:39,495 Jen has been cousin-napped by Bruce, 187 00:09:39,579 --> 00:09:42,206 and taken back to his beach lab, 188 00:09:42,290 --> 00:09:45,918 and she is undergoing, like, Hulk training. 189 00:09:46,002 --> 00:09:48,462 Oh, my God, Bruce, what the hell? 190 00:09:48,546 --> 00:09:51,215 It kind of feels like if I don't transform, I'm gonna die! 191 00:09:51,299 --> 00:09:53,009 Learning to be a Hulk, 192 00:09:53,092 --> 00:09:56,596 how to eat like a Hulk, how to dress as a Hulk, 193 00:09:56,804 --> 00:10:00,016 how to control her transformations, 194 00:10:00,099 --> 00:10:04,562 but what's so cool about it is that she's pretty great at controlling them. 195 00:10:04,729 --> 00:10:06,355 Far better than Bruce is. 196 00:10:06,564 --> 00:10:08,649 The triggers are anger and fear. 197 00:10:08,774 --> 00:10:10,443 Oh. (BLOWS RASPBERRY) 198 00:10:10,526 --> 00:10:13,863 Those are, like, the baseline of any woman just existing. 199 00:10:13,946 --> 00:10:17,700 A lot comes more easily to her than it did for him. 200 00:10:17,825 --> 00:10:20,745 It's a little frustrating, I'm not gonna lie. 201 00:10:20,828 --> 00:10:22,830 Guess we could just... 202 00:10:23,372 --> 00:10:24,582 skip all that then. 203 00:10:24,707 --> 00:10:27,585 You know, he wants to be her mentor. 204 00:10:27,877 --> 00:10:29,629 I mean, there is no other person 205 00:10:29,712 --> 00:10:31,964 in the universe who's sort of, 206 00:10:32,048 --> 00:10:33,799 gone through what he's gone through, 207 00:10:33,883 --> 00:10:36,594 and so I think he's so excited 208 00:10:36,677 --> 00:10:40,473 to have this other person to lay all this on, and... 209 00:10:40,556 --> 00:10:42,516 But she's so far ahead of him. 210 00:10:42,642 --> 00:10:48,022 -Fine. Teach me how to Hulk. -Yes! I mean, okay. 211 00:10:51,984 --> 00:10:56,322 Mark's amazing. He's so, playful, and, like, open, 212 00:10:56,405 --> 00:10:59,200 'cause I imagine it must be a weird thing 213 00:10:59,283 --> 00:11:01,994 to be taking this character that you've known for years, 214 00:11:02,078 --> 00:11:05,498 that you've explored in certain contexts, 215 00:11:05,581 --> 00:11:08,709 but then to take him out of that context, and put him in, like, 216 00:11:08,793 --> 00:11:11,504 this very different tone in this very different world. 217 00:11:11,587 --> 00:11:13,506 It's just really fun to see him, like, 218 00:11:13,589 --> 00:11:15,758 explore that character in a totally different way. 219 00:11:15,883 --> 00:11:17,426 (BOTH EXCLAIMING) 220 00:11:17,510 --> 00:11:19,845 RUFFALO: I've been doing this for almost 10 years now, 221 00:11:19,929 --> 00:11:23,349 and I think we've done a really good job of switching it up, 222 00:11:23,432 --> 00:11:28,270 and taking the characters, both Banner and Hulk to a lot of different places. 223 00:11:28,354 --> 00:11:31,899 So, it's definitely kept it interesting for me, 224 00:11:31,982 --> 00:11:36,320 and this is a whole other, like... Really playing long scenes, 225 00:11:36,404 --> 00:11:39,490 and playing with another person, 226 00:11:39,573 --> 00:11:42,451 who is in motion capture, I haven't really gotten to do. 227 00:11:42,576 --> 00:11:48,165 There's that one time that I was stuck as the other guy for over two years. 228 00:11:48,958 --> 00:11:51,711 -That was on another planet. -No, I can't be this for two years. 229 00:11:51,794 --> 00:11:55,131 No, I was in space! I said one time! 230 00:11:55,214 --> 00:11:59,176 Whoa. You have so much to learn about living as a Hulk. 231 00:11:59,385 --> 00:12:03,013 I think Jessica and all the writers just nailed it, 232 00:12:03,097 --> 00:12:08,394 in terms of it's so specific. It's such a, like, sibling relationship. 233 00:12:08,477 --> 00:12:09,895 -Smug-Hulk. -Smart-Hulk. 234 00:12:09,979 --> 00:12:12,440 Well, it's pretty smug to call yourself smart. 235 00:12:12,523 --> 00:12:14,358 Yeah, I didn't come up with it. 236 00:12:14,442 --> 00:12:17,820 There's very little listening happening and a lot of explaining. (LAUGHS) 237 00:12:17,903 --> 00:12:20,281 And a lot of telling the other what's up. 238 00:12:20,364 --> 00:12:24,869 -Come on, Bruce! Let me out. -Put the helmet back on! 239 00:12:24,994 --> 00:12:28,038 MASLANY: It feels really innate, and it was, kind of, 240 00:12:28,122 --> 00:12:31,125 a natural place for Mark and I to go, for some reason. 241 00:12:31,208 --> 00:12:34,253 -Are you wearing fake eyelashes? -No, what are we talking about? 242 00:12:34,378 --> 00:12:35,421 This is totally natural. 243 00:12:35,504 --> 00:12:38,632 -It's been amazingly fun. -It's been so much fun. It's... 244 00:12:38,716 --> 00:12:40,885 -It's been a great time. -The dumbest time. 245 00:12:40,968 --> 00:12:42,553 -It's dumb fun. -It's dumb, yeah. 246 00:12:42,636 --> 00:12:44,054 Which is the best kind of fun. 247 00:12:44,138 --> 00:12:46,390 No, the hard time during the good time. 248 00:12:46,474 --> 00:12:49,769 -There's a good time during a hard time. -There's a good time during hard time. 249 00:12:49,852 --> 00:12:51,854 -Darn it, I had it right the first time. -Okay. 250 00:12:53,898 --> 00:12:56,609 JASON TAMEZ: The art department designed these fabulous sets. 251 00:12:56,692 --> 00:13:00,070 It put us on the beach, and we created the exterior 252 00:13:00,196 --> 00:13:03,491 on a back lot pad against blue screen here. 253 00:13:03,574 --> 00:13:07,411 Built the tiki bar, and part of his beach house garage, 254 00:13:07,495 --> 00:13:10,664 and ultimately have this showdown, this fight between Hulk and She-Hulk. 255 00:13:10,790 --> 00:13:12,833 -Lunkhead! -Dummy! 256 00:13:12,958 --> 00:13:14,168 (GRUNTS) 257 00:13:14,251 --> 00:13:16,712 RUFFALO: We got to do all our own stunts. 258 00:13:16,796 --> 00:13:18,297 I mean, we got to do 259 00:13:18,464 --> 00:13:20,674 -our big stunt fight scene together. -Yeah. 260 00:13:21,967 --> 00:13:23,093 -(SCREAMS) -(GRUNTS) 261 00:13:23,219 --> 00:13:27,014 We did these drills where they were, like, competing throwing boulders, 262 00:13:27,097 --> 00:13:28,307 and she's winning, 263 00:13:28,390 --> 00:13:30,851 and it was one of my favorite moments of the whole shoot 264 00:13:30,935 --> 00:13:33,354 where they just, kind of, went crazy and let loose. 265 00:13:33,437 --> 00:13:35,898 My bar! 266 00:13:36,023 --> 00:13:37,608 MASLANY: What else? We did ground-pounding. 267 00:13:37,691 --> 00:13:42,279 -We did Hulk-leaping, we did some pushes. -You shoved me. 268 00:13:42,446 --> 00:13:44,949 -We did coconut... -We did coconut time. 269 00:13:45,032 --> 00:13:48,786 Oh, yeah, and I nailed you in the face every time. 270 00:13:48,869 --> 00:13:52,957 Ten guys all missed me and the only one that was our dead ringer was her, 271 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:54,166 every single time. 272 00:13:55,084 --> 00:13:57,044 (GROANS AND GRUNTS) 273 00:13:57,211 --> 00:13:58,546 MAN: Action! 274 00:13:58,671 --> 00:14:01,340 Jen, people wanna know everything about you. 275 00:14:01,423 --> 00:14:04,468 You're a public figure now. And I'm famous adjacent. Yes! 276 00:14:04,552 --> 00:14:06,679 One of the first people I thought of for this 277 00:14:06,762 --> 00:14:08,806 after Tatiana was cast was Ginger. 278 00:14:08,889 --> 00:14:11,559 And they're about the same age, and that was important to me, 279 00:14:11,684 --> 00:14:14,812 that they be peers, and be real friends. 280 00:14:14,895 --> 00:14:18,649 They're not just work friends, they are people who relate on every level. 281 00:14:18,816 --> 00:14:20,401 Thinking you're gonna be an Avenger. 282 00:14:20,526 --> 00:14:23,696 Gettin' Captain America. Making sure he's done the deed before 283 00:14:23,779 --> 00:14:25,698 -so he knows how to help you. -Bye. Bye. 284 00:14:25,781 --> 00:14:27,658 This was the one role, actually, 285 00:14:27,741 --> 00:14:29,702 that we did setup chemistry tests for, 286 00:14:29,785 --> 00:14:32,371 because their relationship, you know, 287 00:14:32,454 --> 00:14:35,457 is like one of the core dramatic things that the show is riding on. 288 00:14:35,541 --> 00:14:37,376 If you don't believe their friendship, 289 00:14:37,459 --> 00:14:39,253 then nothing else is really gonna work. 290 00:14:39,336 --> 00:14:40,963 -We did a scene where... -Yes! 291 00:14:41,046 --> 00:14:42,339 -This is the gala scene. -Yeah. 292 00:14:42,423 --> 00:14:44,341 And me and Ginger walked in... 293 00:14:44,425 --> 00:14:46,719 GINGER GONZAGA: To cool music, like, we chose the song. 294 00:14:46,802 --> 00:14:48,971 -MASLANY: We did a whole thing. -We were serving it. 295 00:14:49,054 --> 00:14:51,891 MASLANY: Then Kat, in the notes she gave after the take, was like, 296 00:14:51,974 --> 00:14:55,060 "Could you guys just do it, like, cool? 297 00:14:55,144 --> 00:14:57,855 -"You know, make it look cool?" -Yeah, and we died, because 298 00:14:58,063 --> 00:14:59,773 we had been serving our best cool, 299 00:14:59,857 --> 00:15:04,111 and we thought we had been freakin' cool, 300 00:15:04,194 --> 00:15:06,655 so I literally didn't know what I could give. 301 00:15:11,452 --> 00:15:15,956 Ginger's brain works faster than anybody's brain on the planet, 302 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:17,917 especially mine. 303 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,502 She's just, like, the sharpest person I've ever met. 304 00:15:20,586 --> 00:15:25,549 She can improvise so, like, seamlessly, effortlessly. 305 00:15:25,633 --> 00:15:27,343 She's just, like, always in flow. 306 00:15:27,426 --> 00:15:30,471 If things go bad, we're gonna have five people for Mahjong! 307 00:15:30,554 --> 00:15:32,181 -Yes! -What's that? 308 00:15:32,306 --> 00:15:35,017 It's a tile game, we'll have to go and get the Chinese tiles... 309 00:15:35,100 --> 00:15:36,477 That sounds like more my style. 310 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,854 I would rather that than five guys at the same time. 311 00:15:38,938 --> 00:15:40,689 Then add it to your profile, girl. 312 00:15:40,773 --> 00:15:43,317 I'm lucky that they support me 313 00:15:43,525 --> 00:15:46,779 and I get a lot of freedom to play around and use my brain. 314 00:15:46,862 --> 00:15:49,657 Improvising's my favorite thing to do. 315 00:15:49,740 --> 00:15:52,159 So, I'm like so grateful that they let me "go rogue." 316 00:15:52,242 --> 00:15:54,995 That's the guy who says, "You don't need to wear any make up". 317 00:15:55,079 --> 00:15:57,414 That guy was born wearing that pinkie ring. 318 00:15:57,539 --> 00:16:00,584 That guy was wearing sunglasses inside. 319 00:16:00,709 --> 00:16:02,086 Teal ones that matched 320 00:16:02,169 --> 00:16:04,213 -the color of his shirt. -Yeah. 321 00:16:04,296 --> 00:16:06,048 -I need a favor. -Okay. 322 00:16:06,131 --> 00:16:09,009 Will you stand in line with me waiting for a sneaker drop? 323 00:16:09,093 --> 00:16:10,886 The Iron Man Threes are comin' out, 324 00:16:10,970 --> 00:16:12,846 and they're limited to one pair per customer. 325 00:16:13,013 --> 00:16:14,390 Why do you need two pairs? 326 00:16:14,473 --> 00:16:16,058 One to rock and one to stock. 327 00:16:16,183 --> 00:16:19,269 GONZAGA: I love the Pug-Nikki dynamic. 328 00:16:19,353 --> 00:16:23,899 Pug is just so sincere, just as Josh is in life, and, like, really amped. 329 00:16:24,066 --> 00:16:27,236 And he is just there to be a ride or die for his two gal pals. 330 00:16:27,319 --> 00:16:30,155 That was everything that I wanted it to be. 331 00:16:30,322 --> 00:16:32,783 It's a crazy feeling knowing that you're working at Marvel, 332 00:16:32,866 --> 00:16:35,703 and you're working, and you're getting to bring characters to life 333 00:16:35,786 --> 00:16:37,413 that are in comic canon. 334 00:16:37,496 --> 00:16:41,333 Bringing Pug to the screen, and just, kind of, gettin' to see what this world 335 00:16:41,417 --> 00:16:44,628 looks like in this MCU law world, 336 00:16:44,753 --> 00:16:46,797 I'm pretty stoked to be a part of it, bro. 337 00:16:46,922 --> 00:16:50,801 I think I chose the right law firm. I'm a lucky cat that they chose me back. 338 00:16:50,884 --> 00:16:52,386 I made you guys a welcome basket. 339 00:16:52,511 --> 00:16:53,887 -Oh! -(CHUCKLES) 340 00:16:53,971 --> 00:16:56,015 It's got some office supplies to get you started, 341 00:16:56,098 --> 00:17:00,686 snacks, and a map to the best bathroom for pooping. 342 00:17:00,853 --> 00:17:02,062 Thank you. 343 00:17:02,187 --> 00:17:06,650 I think it's important to, sort of, capture the workplace dynamics. 344 00:17:06,734 --> 00:17:09,570 So, you know we have this beautiful place that she works in, 345 00:17:09,653 --> 00:17:10,946 and it can be intimidating. 346 00:17:11,030 --> 00:17:13,991 But like, at the heart of it, what are sort of the same 347 00:17:14,074 --> 00:17:17,369 workplace dynamics that people are used to, which is there's the boss 348 00:17:17,453 --> 00:17:20,414 who you're trying to impress but you also, like, 349 00:17:20,497 --> 00:17:23,375 can't really read them. And they know that. 350 00:17:23,459 --> 00:17:26,170 There's like the friends you work with, and you're navigating 351 00:17:26,253 --> 00:17:29,214 the friendship relationship, even though that person works for you. 352 00:17:29,298 --> 00:17:31,759 There's the co-worker that you wanna be friends with 353 00:17:31,842 --> 00:17:33,927 but is cool and you don't know when you're in. 354 00:17:34,011 --> 00:17:35,054 There's a lot going on. 355 00:17:35,137 --> 00:17:38,849 (SIGHS) How does she always look so impeccable? Where does she shop? 356 00:17:38,932 --> 00:17:40,517 Somewhere with valet parking. 357 00:17:40,976 --> 00:17:44,605 RENÉE GOLDSBERRY: Mallory Book is the face that never lost a case, 358 00:17:44,730 --> 00:17:48,317 which is a daunting thing to play. 359 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,736 Most importantly, she's really good at her job. 360 00:17:50,819 --> 00:17:54,323 I think of her as a superhero in the court. 361 00:17:54,823 --> 00:17:56,366 Thank you, Your Honor. 362 00:17:57,076 --> 00:17:59,119 As you will see, there are no issues of fact here 363 00:17:59,203 --> 00:18:01,288 that would require proceeding to trial. 364 00:18:01,455 --> 00:18:03,248 When I found out she was playing Mallory, 365 00:18:03,332 --> 00:18:05,167 I was like, losing my mind, I was so excited. 366 00:18:05,292 --> 00:18:08,128 And then when I got to actually work with her, 367 00:18:08,212 --> 00:18:11,548 and see the nuance that she brings to Mallory, you know, 368 00:18:11,632 --> 00:18:15,636 Mallory is written as this, sort of, like, icy, untouchable person. 369 00:18:15,719 --> 00:18:21,266 But Renée just, like, so smartly ties in these beautiful human moments. 370 00:18:21,767 --> 00:18:24,394 As you can see in the "About me" section, 371 00:18:24,478 --> 00:18:26,355 my client wrote, and I quote, 372 00:18:26,438 --> 00:18:29,733 "Mean, green and straight poured into these jeans." 373 00:18:29,900 --> 00:18:30,901 Ew. 374 00:18:34,905 --> 00:18:37,616 I'm serious and I'm pissed. 375 00:18:37,741 --> 00:18:41,578 GAO: In the comics, you know, Titania is another super-powered woman, 376 00:18:41,662 --> 00:18:43,497 but not as powerful as She-Hulk. 377 00:18:43,580 --> 00:18:47,042 And she's just laser-focused on taking down She-Hulk out of, 378 00:18:47,126 --> 00:18:49,378 you know, the implication is out of jealousy. 379 00:18:49,503 --> 00:18:53,340 We wanted to give her a little bit more complexity but also modernize her. 380 00:18:53,507 --> 00:18:57,886 And if there was a female super-powered villain today, 381 00:18:57,970 --> 00:18:59,638 for sure she would be on social media. 382 00:18:59,763 --> 00:19:01,473 Could you take a photo of us? 383 00:19:01,557 --> 00:19:03,100 -Oh, my god, yes. -No. 384 00:19:03,183 --> 00:19:05,519 Back up a little bit. Just give me some space. 385 00:19:05,853 --> 00:19:07,729 And the great thing about Jameela is 386 00:19:07,813 --> 00:19:11,900 she understands that type of personality to a tee. 387 00:19:11,984 --> 00:19:16,029 Try telling that to the thousands of testimonials from my fans 388 00:19:16,113 --> 00:19:18,073 who have had amazing results 389 00:19:18,157 --> 00:19:21,743 with my exclusive line of She-Hulk foot exfoliants, 390 00:19:21,827 --> 00:19:23,704 which, by the way, I have a free sample of, 391 00:19:23,787 --> 00:19:25,581 and offer into evidence. Thank you. 392 00:19:31,170 --> 00:19:34,131 JAMEELA JAMIL: I thought I was going to be playing someone 393 00:19:34,214 --> 00:19:37,009 who poisons people, because those were the sides that I read. 394 00:19:37,092 --> 00:19:38,719 They don't tell you anything at Marvel. 395 00:19:38,802 --> 00:19:40,554 'Cause they're very, very secretive. 396 00:19:40,637 --> 00:19:43,390 Uh, and so I didn't know I would be doing any stunts, 397 00:19:43,473 --> 00:19:45,225 until I'd already signed the contract. 398 00:19:45,309 --> 00:19:48,270 And so I get to Atlanta thinking I'm gonna have a very chill time. 399 00:19:48,353 --> 00:19:50,898 And they were like, "Welcome to six months of stunts." 400 00:19:53,775 --> 00:19:59,323 I'm so strong now. This is, like, 45 tons, that I'm actually lifting right now. 401 00:19:59,406 --> 00:20:02,451 And it's just, like, so easy... Easy for me. 402 00:20:02,534 --> 00:20:04,411 I was really afraid. 403 00:20:04,494 --> 00:20:06,538 Because she had called me and she'd said, 404 00:20:06,622 --> 00:20:08,332 "I've never worked out a day in my life. 405 00:20:08,415 --> 00:20:11,585 "I've never done a fight a day in my life." And I was just like, 406 00:20:11,668 --> 00:20:13,170 "Oh, no. What's gonna happen?" 407 00:20:13,253 --> 00:20:16,757 And then when she showed up, she was so flexible. I was like, 408 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,468 "Okay, we can work with that. Let's have you do some kicks." 409 00:20:19,551 --> 00:20:21,970 She likes spinning. I was like, "Your character spins. 410 00:20:22,054 --> 00:20:25,933 "You know you do a kick and you spin into another fight." 411 00:20:26,099 --> 00:20:28,644 She's all about the hair and the makeup and the clothes. 412 00:20:28,727 --> 00:20:30,479 But still. She came to win. 413 00:20:30,562 --> 00:20:33,398 You see that? That was five months of training. 414 00:20:33,482 --> 00:20:35,859 So, you are welcome. 415 00:20:36,485 --> 00:20:40,864 VALIA: The wedding episode came from the beautiful mind of Jessica Gao. 416 00:20:40,948 --> 00:20:42,407 It was very much based on her life. 417 00:20:42,574 --> 00:20:44,618 Couples massage in ten minutes. 418 00:20:44,701 --> 00:20:47,871 Jen. I was gonna book you one, and then I was like, 419 00:20:48,163 --> 00:20:51,166 "Wait, Lulu, what are you thinking? Jen isn't in a couple." 420 00:20:51,291 --> 00:20:52,793 You know, it's your classic. 421 00:20:52,876 --> 00:20:56,672 You gotta go back home to your old childhood friend's wedding. 422 00:20:56,797 --> 00:20:59,299 And they're kind of a nightmare person. 423 00:20:59,383 --> 00:21:01,551 I don't want you to be a Hulk at my wedding. 424 00:21:02,094 --> 00:21:03,470 Let me have my day, Jen. 425 00:21:03,553 --> 00:21:07,307 Lulu is played by Patti Harrison, who's a star. 426 00:21:07,432 --> 00:21:10,185 Hi. Hi, Jen. Hi! 427 00:21:10,269 --> 00:21:13,981 HARRISON: Lulu is a high school friend of Jen's. 428 00:21:14,106 --> 00:21:19,152 I definitely went to high school with girls like that. 429 00:21:19,903 --> 00:21:22,406 And they exist. And they have every right to exist. 430 00:21:22,990 --> 00:21:26,159 But, that doesn't mean that 431 00:21:26,243 --> 00:21:29,037 they don't make existence harder for everyone else around. 432 00:21:29,162 --> 00:21:31,540 How could you do this to me on my wedding day? 433 00:21:31,623 --> 00:21:32,749 Now everything's ruined! 434 00:21:32,833 --> 00:21:35,127 I always thought if I would meet her in real life, 435 00:21:35,210 --> 00:21:37,504 I'd be like, too intimidated to talk. And I was. 436 00:21:37,671 --> 00:21:41,591 But, I got all, like, the fangirling out early 437 00:21:41,675 --> 00:21:45,220 and, just, like, have loved working with her. 438 00:21:45,304 --> 00:21:49,099 Tatiana is a real-life monster. 439 00:21:49,182 --> 00:21:52,811 She's one of the most toxic people I've ever worked with in my life. 440 00:21:53,145 --> 00:21:58,025 Um... I love her to death and I would kill for her. 441 00:21:58,108 --> 00:21:59,860 And I would kill anyone she told me to. 442 00:21:59,985 --> 00:22:02,779 She-Hulk is at my wedding? 443 00:22:03,613 --> 00:22:06,116 I love you. 444 00:22:07,117 --> 00:22:10,412 -Show me your Matcher profile. Jennifer! -No. 445 00:22:10,620 --> 00:22:11,997 I think we can all agree that 446 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,667 the one thing that the MCU has been missing is S-E-X. 447 00:22:15,751 --> 00:22:18,587 Why does no one have a love life in the MCU? 448 00:22:18,670 --> 00:22:20,005 People have love lives. 449 00:22:20,088 --> 00:22:24,509 So, I was very excited to be able to have that on our show 450 00:22:24,593 --> 00:22:27,095 because that is such a huge part of everybody's lives. 451 00:22:27,179 --> 00:22:30,891 And here's the thing, like dating in your 30s, already awful. The worst. 452 00:22:30,974 --> 00:22:33,143 But then you throw all of this stuff on top of it, 453 00:22:33,226 --> 00:22:35,062 she's gonna have the worst time of it. 454 00:22:35,187 --> 00:22:37,606 That was a test to make sure you're listening. 455 00:22:37,689 --> 00:22:39,983 I like doing little tests on first dates. 456 00:22:40,108 --> 00:22:42,611 Jen can be quite tightly wound, 457 00:22:42,694 --> 00:22:46,406 and sort of so fixated on work as her only defining feature that, 458 00:22:46,490 --> 00:22:51,203 Nikki consistently reminds her that there is a life outside of her job. 459 00:22:51,286 --> 00:22:56,541 And also to, like, embrace the She-Hulkness of herself. 460 00:22:57,292 --> 00:22:58,585 I'm not proud of this. 461 00:22:58,668 --> 00:23:02,172 So she creates a profile and she instantly gets all of these matches 462 00:23:02,255 --> 00:23:05,175 and sets up all of these dates and she goes on a speed-dating round. 463 00:23:05,342 --> 00:23:07,844 Is there anything worse than dating in your 30s? 464 00:23:07,969 --> 00:23:13,475 If you wanna make partner, the best thing to do is bill a lot of hours. 465 00:23:13,558 --> 00:23:15,227 That's what my protagonist did. 466 00:23:15,310 --> 00:23:19,564 I have to admit, I was a fan before we matched. 467 00:23:20,148 --> 00:23:25,070 Todd is a billionaire, playboy, 468 00:23:25,153 --> 00:23:27,197 philanthropist douchebag. 469 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,034 I love Wakanda. You know, I actually, studied abroad there. 470 00:23:31,159 --> 00:23:34,621 He meets She-Hulk on a date. He's a total creep. 471 00:23:34,746 --> 00:23:38,417 God, you're just so powerful. What a specimen. 472 00:23:38,500 --> 00:23:41,837 And then he just starts popping up in all of these places. 473 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:47,509 It's very obvious that he wants more than anything to sleep with She-Hulk. 474 00:23:48,343 --> 00:23:53,306 But then it becomes a little bit more apparent that there's a much 475 00:23:53,765 --> 00:23:56,726 seedier reason for that. And that's to get her blood. 476 00:23:56,810 --> 00:23:58,520 (ALL CHANTING) Take She-Hulk's power! 477 00:23:58,603 --> 00:24:02,023 Take She-Hulk's power! Take She-Hulk's power! 478 00:24:02,107 --> 00:24:05,652 COIRO: Jon Bass is just wonderful. He's odious and horrible 479 00:24:05,735 --> 00:24:07,362 but you also kinda love him. 480 00:24:07,446 --> 00:24:11,158 Here's the thing, Jen. I didn't just get handed my powers. 481 00:24:12,409 --> 00:24:14,161 I had to earn them. 482 00:24:15,036 --> 00:24:17,664 BASS: Yeah, it's the most fun to play the villain. 483 00:24:17,747 --> 00:24:20,208 If you don't know that, know it now. 484 00:24:20,292 --> 00:24:23,378 I would like to introduce our very special guest speaker. 485 00:24:23,462 --> 00:24:25,505 He cost a ton, so you'd better cheer. 486 00:24:25,589 --> 00:24:30,802 Give it up for the Abomination. 487 00:24:30,969 --> 00:24:35,223 (ALL APPLAUDING AND CHEERING) 488 00:24:35,474 --> 00:24:37,893 Thank you! Thank you. 489 00:24:39,436 --> 00:24:41,688 TIM ROTH: They asked me to come back and do this, 490 00:24:41,771 --> 00:24:43,315 I said, "That sounds like fun." 491 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,611 And they came up with this notion of the character which, 492 00:24:47,777 --> 00:24:52,032 it's a fine line between embarrassing and pretentious, and villainous. 493 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,034 When it says gang, it's not literal gang. 494 00:24:54,117 --> 00:24:56,661 Just make sure you make that clear to the parole board. 495 00:24:56,745 --> 00:24:57,787 Yeah, no, I will. 496 00:24:57,996 --> 00:25:00,707 Tim is a character. He is a total character. 497 00:25:00,790 --> 00:25:03,335 Excuse me, Jen, babe, sweetheart, doll face. 498 00:25:03,418 --> 00:25:04,878 MASLANY: He was very playful. 499 00:25:04,961 --> 00:25:08,632 And so I think to come into this show where now it's like a comedy, 500 00:25:08,715 --> 00:25:10,926 it was like a fun thing to see him navigate. 501 00:25:11,051 --> 00:25:13,220 I'm actually appalling myself with this tone. 502 00:25:13,303 --> 00:25:16,431 On the page, he was much more likeable 503 00:25:16,515 --> 00:25:18,099 and straightforward 504 00:25:18,433 --> 00:25:21,895 And Tim brought these layers where you don't know if she should trust him, 505 00:25:21,978 --> 00:25:24,898 but at the same time, he still deserves justice. 506 00:25:24,981 --> 00:25:27,943 And I think it makes her character very sympathetic 507 00:25:28,026 --> 00:25:29,444 because she is like, 508 00:25:29,528 --> 00:25:32,364 "I don't really wanna do this. This guy tried to kill my cousin. 509 00:25:32,447 --> 00:25:34,324 "But what happened to him was wrong." 510 00:25:34,407 --> 00:25:36,826 And to me, that really hearkened back to the comics, 511 00:25:36,910 --> 00:25:41,164 to, like, the Jen Walters who will fight for what is right, no matter what. 512 00:25:41,248 --> 00:25:44,918 Yes, Emil Blonsky is a polarizing figure. 513 00:25:45,502 --> 00:25:48,338 But he has served adequate prison time. 514 00:25:48,505 --> 00:25:52,342 And he has demonstrated that he has been rehabilitated. 515 00:25:52,425 --> 00:25:56,346 He deserves a future as a free man and a productive citizen. 516 00:26:00,183 --> 00:26:04,688 This is Dunaway Gardens. This is Emil Blonsky's camp. 517 00:26:06,189 --> 00:26:08,817 We have the yurt where we do our yurting. 518 00:26:08,900 --> 00:26:12,571 We have our Room of Feelings where we express our feelings. 519 00:26:13,697 --> 00:26:15,991 -Jen. -Wow, this is quite a group. 520 00:26:16,575 --> 00:26:18,577 You're welcome to join. 521 00:26:18,660 --> 00:26:20,161 This is El Águila. 522 00:26:20,245 --> 00:26:21,955 -Man Bull. -Porcupine. 523 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,959 Dirk Garthwaite and he is, aka the Wrecker. 524 00:26:26,084 --> 00:26:29,754 We are breaking down some of the relationships 525 00:26:29,838 --> 00:26:32,549 that are kind of clogging us up as individuals. 526 00:26:32,632 --> 00:26:36,970 And, you know, doing the work. 527 00:26:37,053 --> 00:26:38,847 We just tryin' to be good people. 528 00:26:38,930 --> 00:26:41,683 We just have different perspective on what good is, 529 00:26:41,766 --> 00:26:42,976 sometimes, you know what I mean? 530 00:26:43,101 --> 00:26:44,185 Saracen. 531 00:26:45,020 --> 00:26:47,897 Man Bull and El Águila have been spending a lot of time together. 532 00:26:48,023 --> 00:26:50,233 -Yeah. Mmm-hmm. -And that's great. 533 00:26:50,900 --> 00:26:54,863 But I'm feeling like maybe it's not healthy. 534 00:26:55,572 --> 00:26:59,284 We're shooting a very atypically long scene here, which is really fun. 535 00:26:59,367 --> 00:27:01,494 I think usually when you think of television scenes, 536 00:27:01,578 --> 00:27:04,289 you don't get to really sit and do some proper scene work. 537 00:27:04,372 --> 00:27:08,835 But this is like a 16 page scene where we really see, She-Hulk, Jen, 538 00:27:08,918 --> 00:27:14,090 really kind of, open herself up, share her vulnerabilities, 539 00:27:14,174 --> 00:27:16,760 share her disappointments, and her fears. 540 00:27:16,843 --> 00:27:19,554 And I think it's a really beautiful opportunity 541 00:27:19,638 --> 00:27:22,140 to connect with who Jen really is. 542 00:27:22,223 --> 00:27:26,186 Everyone legitimately does pay attention when I'm this. 543 00:27:26,269 --> 00:27:30,357 Like, guys, my colleagues, my boss. 544 00:27:31,316 --> 00:27:35,111 But it does feel like cheating, in a way, 545 00:27:35,528 --> 00:27:39,366 because I wonder if those people 546 00:27:39,449 --> 00:27:43,078 would like me without all of this. 547 00:27:43,286 --> 00:27:47,540 JENNIFER BOOTH: It epitomizes these dual sides of our lives, you know? 548 00:27:47,666 --> 00:27:51,044 I think we all wanna be She-Hulk but we really relate to being Jen Walters. 549 00:27:51,127 --> 00:27:56,049 Maybe you can stop using She-Hulk as a protective shield 550 00:27:56,132 --> 00:28:00,762 and trust us with Jen. 551 00:28:01,346 --> 00:28:05,934 She's a super-powered being but you really get into the intricacies 552 00:28:06,017 --> 00:28:08,311 of, like, what she's dealing with emotionally. 553 00:28:09,646 --> 00:28:13,066 -Yeah! -Great job. 554 00:28:14,317 --> 00:28:16,236 I gotta say, that felt really good. 555 00:28:18,863 --> 00:28:23,451 Ms. Walters. I have a legal situation of the greatest importance. 556 00:28:23,910 --> 00:28:25,412 You know, A, I'm a fan 557 00:28:25,620 --> 00:28:31,501 and then B, to, sort of interweave myself into all of these series 558 00:28:31,584 --> 00:28:32,919 is just the best for me. 559 00:28:33,169 --> 00:28:37,048 -JEN: Finally! -My apologies, Ms. Walters, Emil. 560 00:28:37,132 --> 00:28:40,260 I lost track of time, I was watching the series finale of Breaking Bad. 561 00:28:40,343 --> 00:28:42,929 It's just fantastic to portal in and out. 562 00:28:43,012 --> 00:28:44,389 You took your time, didn't ya? 563 00:28:44,514 --> 00:28:48,226 He was just so great as Wong. I just loved working with him. 564 00:28:48,935 --> 00:28:52,939 Let me send Donny to the Mirror Dimension? He won't last a week. 565 00:28:53,064 --> 00:28:55,567 I would love that. But that will ruin our case. 566 00:28:55,650 --> 00:29:01,239 On his last day, like, quietly, suddenly, there was a DJ booth up on, 567 00:29:01,322 --> 00:29:03,158 a set we weren't using. 568 00:29:03,241 --> 00:29:05,452 And Benedict was like, DJing. 569 00:29:06,286 --> 00:29:08,288 (TECHNO MUSIC PLAYING) 570 00:29:14,085 --> 00:29:16,337 He is the best. He is, like, such a dream. 571 00:29:18,548 --> 00:29:19,841 Now, that's magic. 572 00:29:25,221 --> 00:29:27,182 GAO: We are in the theater, at a magic show. 573 00:29:27,265 --> 00:29:31,186 And I don't wanna say cut rate but not A-list magician, 574 00:29:31,269 --> 00:29:33,605 named Donny Blaze is performing a show. 575 00:29:33,897 --> 00:29:39,319 "A rose, by any other name, would smell as sweet." 576 00:29:39,402 --> 00:29:42,781 In desperation, he pulls out a sling ring and thus, 577 00:29:42,864 --> 00:29:47,368 begins a long journey of trying to get this guy 578 00:29:47,452 --> 00:29:50,830 to stop using real magic in his fake magic shows. 579 00:29:51,164 --> 00:29:53,166 (ALL APPLAUDING) 580 00:29:56,461 --> 00:29:59,297 We were gonna shoot in a real theater here in Atlanta. 581 00:29:59,464 --> 00:30:03,384 I mean, we had it all drawn up and planned to go there. 582 00:30:03,468 --> 00:30:05,470 I mean, it was, pretty locked in. 583 00:30:05,553 --> 00:30:07,305 And then, last minute, everybody's like, 584 00:30:07,388 --> 00:30:09,724 "You know, we're doing so much work to the theater, 585 00:30:09,808 --> 00:30:12,143 "maybe we should just build it." 586 00:30:13,102 --> 00:30:16,231 It was inspired by old-style theaters. 587 00:30:16,314 --> 00:30:20,944 So, full of memorabilias of magical things and magical elements. 588 00:30:21,027 --> 00:30:24,113 So, we just start with a strong collaboration 589 00:30:24,197 --> 00:30:27,158 to make sure that the action can take place in the proper way. 590 00:30:27,242 --> 00:30:30,662 So, for example, in a common theater, 591 00:30:30,745 --> 00:30:32,413 you will have more theater seats. 592 00:30:32,497 --> 00:30:36,960 We decide to take the side rows and the front and the back rows away 593 00:30:37,085 --> 00:30:40,922 and to have a mix of like, chairs and tables, exactly for right action. 594 00:30:41,005 --> 00:30:42,507 So, the demons and the fight 595 00:30:42,590 --> 00:30:45,134 can take place and it becomes a little bit more dynamic. 596 00:30:46,386 --> 00:30:47,846 Oh, wow, look at that! 597 00:30:47,971 --> 00:30:49,514 RHYS COIRO: His name is Donny Blaze. 598 00:30:50,223 --> 00:30:51,391 That's his stage name. 599 00:30:52,058 --> 00:30:53,726 I won't reveal his actual name. 600 00:30:54,269 --> 00:30:55,937 What's the matter, Wong? 601 00:30:56,688 --> 00:30:59,983 Are you scared I'll become more mystical than you? 602 00:31:00,942 --> 00:31:03,403 We wanted the magic and the character to stand on its own. 603 00:31:03,486 --> 00:31:07,282 So, we actually found a professional magician to advise him 604 00:31:07,365 --> 00:31:10,326 and consult with him and Rhys has been working, 605 00:31:10,410 --> 00:31:11,911 you know, super diligently. 606 00:31:12,078 --> 00:31:15,164 Card tricks, rabbits, doves, you know, smoke bombs. 607 00:31:15,248 --> 00:31:16,249 (RHYS BLOWS) 608 00:31:16,374 --> 00:31:18,835 Well, it's a very humble profession, magic. 609 00:31:18,918 --> 00:31:21,045 I've been goin' around trying to practice my tricks 610 00:31:21,129 --> 00:31:24,299 and people are entertained but then also, sort of 611 00:31:24,716 --> 00:31:26,426 want nothing to do with it. 612 00:31:26,509 --> 00:31:29,095 -Backin' away. It's pretty funny. -(BOTH CHUCKLE) 613 00:31:29,220 --> 00:31:30,555 Donny Blaze! 614 00:31:30,638 --> 00:31:33,516 FYI, these don't smell like anything. 615 00:31:33,641 --> 00:31:37,687 JACOBSON: He opens a portal and an unsuspecting audience member, 616 00:31:37,770 --> 00:31:41,691 who is a party girl, played by amazing comedian Patty Guggenheim, 617 00:31:41,774 --> 00:31:45,194 falls through the show and into Wong's sanctum. 618 00:31:45,278 --> 00:31:46,571 Where am I? 619 00:31:46,654 --> 00:31:48,823 What happened to all of the goblins? 620 00:31:48,990 --> 00:31:50,074 Who are you? 621 00:31:50,158 --> 00:31:54,078 The hardest thing to do, I think, is to play drunk convincingly. 622 00:31:54,162 --> 00:31:57,248 And she's so good at it that she said it's a dial. 623 00:31:57,332 --> 00:31:59,459 That's how specific and tuned in she is. 624 00:31:59,542 --> 00:32:05,840 Madisynn with two Ns, one Y, but it's not where you think. 625 00:32:06,424 --> 00:32:12,805 Yeah, I feel like I've been preparing for this role for a long time in my real life. 626 00:32:12,889 --> 00:32:15,391 (CHUCKLES) Is that too personal? 627 00:32:15,558 --> 00:32:19,604 Madisynn's, like, a superhero of the real world, 628 00:32:19,687 --> 00:32:22,148 who speaks for all of us. 629 00:32:22,231 --> 00:32:24,192 She's present, she lives in the moment. 630 00:32:24,275 --> 00:32:26,653 And I think we can all take a lesson from her book. 631 00:32:26,778 --> 00:32:28,821 I kinda like browned out and... 632 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,782 Now I'm here. 633 00:32:30,907 --> 00:32:31,991 (RINGS BELL) 634 00:32:32,116 --> 00:32:33,952 WONG: We just had a lot of fun there. 635 00:32:34,494 --> 00:32:36,412 Case closed! 636 00:32:36,537 --> 00:32:42,502 The Madisynn-Wong combination, goes quite well, really. 637 00:32:42,585 --> 00:32:45,630 He's kind of like sort of just... 638 00:32:45,713 --> 00:32:49,467 He's kind of got this puppy dog, really, that he can't really do anything about. 639 00:32:49,550 --> 00:32:52,095 -Okay, Wongers, can we get fro-yo? -No. 640 00:32:52,512 --> 00:32:55,515 We could talk about The Sopranos. 641 00:32:55,598 --> 00:32:56,641 Fine. 642 00:32:57,684 --> 00:32:58,935 No more spoilers. 643 00:33:00,687 --> 00:33:05,191 GOLDSBERRY: The fun of the show is to combine this legal world 644 00:33:05,274 --> 00:33:11,364 and all of the possibilities around superhero weirdness. 645 00:33:11,447 --> 00:33:15,576 I mean, what could happen when you think of the legal ramifications 646 00:33:15,660 --> 00:33:17,620 of some really amazing, awesome powers? 647 00:33:17,704 --> 00:33:20,748 That's what so wonderful about the Mr. Immortal episode. 648 00:33:23,459 --> 00:33:24,919 DAVID PASQUESI: I'm Mr. Immortal. 649 00:33:25,003 --> 00:33:28,965 I am able to regenerate after death. 650 00:33:29,340 --> 00:33:33,803 Unfortunately, I don't have any other strengths. 651 00:33:33,928 --> 00:33:36,764 I'm not strong or fast, or necessarily very bright 652 00:33:36,848 --> 00:33:39,726 but I can come back after I die. 653 00:33:39,809 --> 00:33:43,521 I really do not care for conflict in any way. 654 00:33:43,604 --> 00:33:46,649 As soon as things get comfortable, I just exit. 655 00:33:46,733 --> 00:33:50,653 Are you saying that instead of having a conversation with your wife, 656 00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:53,364 you kill yourself to get out of the relationship? 657 00:33:53,448 --> 00:33:54,907 Whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't kill myself. 658 00:33:54,991 --> 00:33:57,910 I'm immortal, so I can't die. 659 00:33:58,536 --> 00:34:01,372 Mallory and I clearly side with the women, 660 00:34:01,456 --> 00:34:02,832 but we have to represent him. 661 00:34:02,915 --> 00:34:06,836 And we had a lot of, lot of really funny, local Atlanta-based guest stars. 662 00:34:06,919 --> 00:34:11,215 I spent $10,000 on a New Orleans jazz funeral. 663 00:34:11,424 --> 00:34:16,220 The way that the three of them really work together is very funny to watch. 664 00:34:16,429 --> 00:34:18,514 They really have fallen into a groove. 665 00:34:21,392 --> 00:34:23,686 You're gonna have to pay. 666 00:34:24,312 --> 00:34:25,521 Why are you smiling? 667 00:34:26,355 --> 00:34:27,356 It's kinda fun. 668 00:34:28,149 --> 00:34:29,650 Another character that we had, 669 00:34:29,734 --> 00:34:33,404 that was so well portrayed and such a great surprise, was Runa. 670 00:34:33,654 --> 00:34:36,365 COIRO: We were auditioning, like, young, beautiful women. 671 00:34:36,449 --> 00:34:38,367 We really could not find somebody. 672 00:34:38,451 --> 00:34:43,748 And I had this crazy dream that Taika and Jon Favreau were like, 673 00:34:43,831 --> 00:34:47,668 "Kat, you need to play this role. We've both been in the movies. 674 00:34:47,794 --> 00:34:49,378 "You need to play the shapeshifter." 675 00:34:49,462 --> 00:34:51,089 And I woke up and I was like, 676 00:34:52,173 --> 00:34:55,176 "No, I definitely don't wanna play the shapeshifter. 677 00:34:55,259 --> 00:34:58,262 "But maybe, the takeaway is I want someone old." 678 00:34:59,055 --> 00:35:02,433 And I'm not old but I'm older than the girls we were auditioning. 679 00:35:02,517 --> 00:35:06,896 Thank you so much. Thanks for the dream. It's now my dream. 680 00:35:06,979 --> 00:35:08,231 JACOBSON: We auditioned Peg O'Keef. 681 00:35:08,356 --> 00:35:10,108 We were like, "This is the woman for us." 682 00:35:10,233 --> 00:35:12,860 Let that be a warning. 683 00:35:12,944 --> 00:35:16,864 I am, like, the ultimate entitled brat. 684 00:35:17,490 --> 00:35:20,785 However, I'm, I don't know, 3,000 years old. 685 00:35:21,077 --> 00:35:24,330 I know I don't look a day over 2,999, 686 00:35:24,831 --> 00:35:31,045 but for Runa, she has developed a delicious appetite 687 00:35:31,546 --> 00:35:33,840 for creating trouble everywhere she goes. 688 00:35:33,965 --> 00:35:36,759 I'm not really Megan. 689 00:35:40,012 --> 00:35:43,891 GAO: You watch all these movies in the MCU and everybody has awesome suits. 690 00:35:43,975 --> 00:35:46,769 You know, we just imagined like, if we, a normal person, 691 00:35:46,853 --> 00:35:50,606 became a super hero one day, like, would we even know who to ask? 692 00:35:50,690 --> 00:35:52,984 It's not like you can just Yelp, "Superhero clothes". 693 00:35:53,109 --> 00:35:54,861 Who makes the stuff? Where do they shop? 694 00:35:54,944 --> 00:35:58,531 My client list is very exclusive because my work is impeccable. 695 00:35:58,614 --> 00:36:00,158 And I'm very discreet. 696 00:36:00,616 --> 00:36:02,660 Just ask any one of the Avengers. 697 00:36:02,743 --> 00:36:06,164 When I first got the job, I got to tour the warehouse. 698 00:36:06,247 --> 00:36:10,543 There's a Marvel warehouse in an undisclosed location. 699 00:36:10,918 --> 00:36:15,756 And I got to tour it, and I saw all of the incredible tailors 700 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,594 and designers making the actual costumes, and so I learned a lot. 701 00:36:20,052 --> 00:36:22,680 There's a lot of precision, there's a lot of artistry. 702 00:36:22,763 --> 00:36:25,016 So, it just informed my character. 703 00:36:25,099 --> 00:36:28,853 Tinsley, order extra bolts of the stretch wool. 704 00:36:29,937 --> 00:36:31,731 We're going to need a lot. 705 00:36:33,441 --> 00:36:38,112 I also kind of went back into the archives and got a little crazy about Basquiat. 706 00:36:38,321 --> 00:36:43,492 What I liked was the madness of his art and also the way that he looked. 707 00:36:43,576 --> 00:36:44,619 It was so specific. 708 00:36:44,911 --> 00:36:49,624 And then I also went down a rabbit hole of, like, black hairstyles. 709 00:36:49,707 --> 00:36:52,376 'Cause I felt like, "Ah, what's Luke doing?" 710 00:36:52,585 --> 00:36:56,339 He's like halfway in the past and he's, you know, in the future. 711 00:36:56,505 --> 00:37:00,676 -JEN: Oh, I like it! -Of course you do, because I'm a genius. 712 00:37:01,260 --> 00:37:02,845 And I landed at an eighties mullet. 713 00:37:03,304 --> 00:37:05,806 I don't know who told you that you could pull off this color, 714 00:37:05,890 --> 00:37:08,851 but you should go back to them and shoot them. 715 00:37:09,435 --> 00:37:12,313 GAO: Now, in the post Endgame world, you know, 716 00:37:12,438 --> 00:37:15,149 there are just more and more and more superhumans 717 00:37:15,274 --> 00:37:18,361 and there's gotta be one spoiled rich kid who's gonna want that, 718 00:37:18,444 --> 00:37:22,448 and then use their parents' money to fund, forcing this to happen. 719 00:37:22,531 --> 00:37:28,913 The store might be closed, but you forgot about the Guard Frog. 720 00:37:29,288 --> 00:37:31,999 When I put that suit on, it was like, "Wow." 721 00:37:32,375 --> 00:37:34,001 I look in the mirror, and I'm like, 722 00:37:34,085 --> 00:37:36,837 "I can't believe that I'm in a super-suit right now. This is insane." 723 00:37:36,921 --> 00:37:40,466 There's no shame in retreat. Live to leap another day. 724 00:37:40,549 --> 00:37:44,011 Time to ribbit and rip it. 725 00:37:44,095 --> 00:37:46,013 That's, like, three catchphrases. Pick a lane, man. 726 00:37:46,138 --> 00:37:47,348 Whoo! 727 00:37:50,059 --> 00:37:54,313 You know, Kat sent me a picture the night before of, like, my throne, 728 00:37:54,397 --> 00:37:56,607 and she was just kind of like, you know, 729 00:37:56,691 --> 00:38:00,152 "Hey, just letting you know, this is kind of what we're lookin' at 730 00:38:00,236 --> 00:38:02,196 "for your lair." 731 00:38:02,655 --> 00:38:06,117 Even then I was just like, "What? This was made for me?" 732 00:38:06,367 --> 00:38:08,452 And then I show up that day 733 00:38:08,536 --> 00:38:11,038 and me and Griffin are kinda walking in at the same time, 734 00:38:11,122 --> 00:38:13,833 and he was like, "Brandon, look behind you." 735 00:38:13,916 --> 00:38:16,794 I turn around and it's my character on the wall, 736 00:38:16,877 --> 00:38:18,296 bouncin' around and all that, 737 00:38:18,379 --> 00:38:20,131 and I said "You've got to be kidding me." 738 00:38:20,256 --> 00:38:23,009 Guys, how do we feel about the name Leap Squad? 739 00:38:24,051 --> 00:38:26,012 You know, like, "Leap Squad!" 740 00:38:26,137 --> 00:38:30,850 We had scouted this used auto part place. 741 00:38:30,933 --> 00:38:35,604 And we had this very dark, stereotypical villain's lair. 742 00:38:35,688 --> 00:38:38,149 And Kevin Feige actually looked at it and said, 743 00:38:38,232 --> 00:38:40,943 "It's cool but it feels like it needs another layer." 744 00:38:41,027 --> 00:38:44,989 And when he said that, we kind of went crazy with this frog theme. 745 00:38:46,073 --> 00:38:47,950 ELENA: 'Cause you think about poisonous frogs. 746 00:38:48,117 --> 00:38:52,496 They are all colorful like a, you know, strong yellow or blue. 747 00:38:52,580 --> 00:38:56,500 So that was kind of an inspiration for that environment. 748 00:38:58,544 --> 00:39:00,755 I can't believe this dodo has henchmen. 749 00:39:01,380 --> 00:39:04,216 Actually, I can. I bet these goons work for his dad. 750 00:39:04,925 --> 00:39:07,970 We were in the writers' room and breaking the show. 751 00:39:08,054 --> 00:39:10,639 You know, we really thought a lot of the magic of the show, 752 00:39:10,723 --> 00:39:14,727 aside from living in Jen's world, would be tying it to the larger MCU 753 00:39:14,810 --> 00:39:17,355 with all of these different kind of court cases. 754 00:39:17,438 --> 00:39:21,484 And I think we, we put Daredevil on kind of, like, a wishlist, 755 00:39:21,567 --> 00:39:25,112 'cause we were all fans of Charlie's and of the original show. 756 00:39:25,196 --> 00:39:27,281 GAO: The approach with bringing him in was, 757 00:39:27,365 --> 00:39:29,325 "Okay, well, he's a lawyer, so, obviously, 758 00:39:29,408 --> 00:39:32,244 "you want to see the two of them go head-to-head in the courtroom." 759 00:39:32,328 --> 00:39:33,454 But also, you know, 760 00:39:33,537 --> 00:39:38,376 he's the guy who's doing what Jen Walters is pushing up against, 761 00:39:38,459 --> 00:39:41,754 which is to be a superhero and a lawyer at the exact same time. 762 00:39:41,879 --> 00:39:45,132 And we wanted to make him, you know, in keeping with the tone of the series, 763 00:39:45,216 --> 00:39:48,010 a little bit lighter, a little bit funnier, and also, 764 00:39:48,094 --> 00:39:49,929 who doesn't want to hook up with Daredevil? 765 00:39:50,012 --> 00:39:51,972 We're all feeling this, right, it's not just me? 766 00:39:53,099 --> 00:39:56,727 I was doing some theater on Broadway with Tom Hiddleston. 767 00:39:56,936 --> 00:39:59,397 And, of course, Kevin and Tom know each other very well, 768 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,442 and Kevin came to see the play and I said hello afterwards and shook his hand. 769 00:40:03,526 --> 00:40:07,988 But there was no conversation whatsoever about coming back or anything like that. 770 00:40:08,072 --> 00:40:09,865 And then it was on July 10, 771 00:40:09,949 --> 00:40:13,202 I was in the garden at home and playing with the kids and the phone rang. 772 00:40:13,369 --> 00:40:15,371 And it was Kevin Feige. And I was... 773 00:40:15,454 --> 00:40:16,789 I thought it was a prank. 774 00:40:16,956 --> 00:40:21,168 And, you know, Kevin said that they had some plans for me and wanted me to, 775 00:40:21,252 --> 00:40:24,255 potentially do a couple of things. He just wanted to check and see 776 00:40:24,380 --> 00:40:27,550 if I was interested and willing to come back and be part of 777 00:40:28,259 --> 00:40:32,012 the MCU, which was, not a hard question to answer. 778 00:40:32,221 --> 00:40:34,348 So, are you, like, a superhero? 779 00:40:34,849 --> 00:40:37,893 Like the Gold Devil? 780 00:40:39,103 --> 00:40:40,396 I'm Daredevil. 781 00:40:42,273 --> 00:40:45,693 Charlie had to inform me that the character could not, in fact, see. 782 00:40:45,776 --> 00:40:47,862 That is not true. That's not true. 783 00:40:47,987 --> 00:40:53,826 There's a joke we have, we've always had, which is that "It's very easy to forget." 784 00:40:53,909 --> 00:40:57,246 Because Matt Murdock is so capable, 785 00:40:57,329 --> 00:41:01,083 and that his visual impairment doesn't actually inhibit him in any way, 786 00:41:01,208 --> 00:41:04,503 you always have to be reminded that there are certain things... 787 00:41:04,587 --> 00:41:07,423 You can't actually really look at things in the same way. 788 00:41:07,506 --> 00:41:10,509 But, like, it can sound really condescending when I'm like, 789 00:41:10,593 --> 00:41:13,262 -"Yeah, he's blind, by the way." -He's not condescending at all. 790 00:41:13,345 --> 00:41:15,306 One of the first things we had, it was scripted, 791 00:41:15,389 --> 00:41:16,932 they look at each other and I said, 792 00:41:17,016 --> 00:41:19,351 "Oh, this is the moment where they look at each other." 793 00:41:19,435 --> 00:41:23,355 And he so politely, he said, "How do... Well, I, I don't... 794 00:41:23,439 --> 00:41:24,732 "He's blind." 795 00:41:24,815 --> 00:41:27,651 Remind me how many times you've taken out a warehouse full of goons. 796 00:41:27,735 --> 00:41:29,820 Remind me again who has the superpowers here? 797 00:41:30,529 --> 00:41:32,114 I'm pointing at myself. 798 00:41:32,281 --> 00:41:35,075 Yeah, I know. I have echo location, remember? 799 00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:37,411 It'd been so long since I played the character that 800 00:41:37,495 --> 00:41:38,579 it was a little bit like 801 00:41:38,662 --> 00:41:42,249 "God, I hope I still remember who this guy is, 802 00:41:42,333 --> 00:41:43,834 "if I can still find the feelings." 803 00:41:43,918 --> 00:41:46,003 The suit helped that, I put that on, I was like, 804 00:41:46,086 --> 00:41:47,087 "I remember this." 805 00:41:47,213 --> 00:41:50,799 It was really, really fun seeing Daredevil in his suit. 806 00:41:50,883 --> 00:41:54,637 On the day Charlie came out in the suit, but he didn't have the cowl on yet 807 00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:57,806 and he gets to his mark and he's in position and everybody's ready, 808 00:41:57,890 --> 00:42:01,310 and the very last thing he did was finally put the cowl on. 809 00:42:01,393 --> 00:42:03,312 I love this sound. 810 00:42:03,479 --> 00:42:05,898 And as soon as that cowl was on his head, 811 00:42:05,981 --> 00:42:07,942 all of the extras, we had a big crowd, 812 00:42:08,025 --> 00:42:10,110 and all of them started applauding and cheering, 813 00:42:10,194 --> 00:42:11,445 and it was just so cool. 814 00:42:11,529 --> 00:42:13,739 I feel like I've actually come out of retirement. 815 00:42:15,032 --> 00:42:17,993 They asked me to come to Los Angeles to have a suit fitting. 816 00:42:18,285 --> 00:42:21,330 And I assumed it was just to see if the old one still fit. 817 00:42:21,497 --> 00:42:23,332 Make sure I haven't put on too much weight. 818 00:42:23,415 --> 00:42:25,584 And, so I flew in. I went to the costume department 819 00:42:25,668 --> 00:42:29,255 and on the wall, there was a graphic of a superhero suit. 820 00:42:29,338 --> 00:42:32,341 Initially I was like, "Is tha..." I couldn't figure out who it was. 821 00:42:32,424 --> 00:42:34,385 I realized it was the new Daredevil suit, 822 00:42:34,468 --> 00:42:37,471 and they'd incorporated the gold or the yellow 823 00:42:37,555 --> 00:42:39,682 from some of the earlier Daredevil comics. 824 00:42:39,807 --> 00:42:43,352 It feels like this is the first step in an evolution of this suit 825 00:42:43,435 --> 00:42:45,646 which is why it has the gold panels in there. 826 00:42:45,729 --> 00:42:50,651 It's almost meant to feel a little bit like a primer part of the suit. 827 00:42:50,734 --> 00:42:54,280 And it's really fun seeing Charlie in that suit. 828 00:42:54,780 --> 00:42:57,533 -Think I'm gonna wear it home. -Okay. See you later. 829 00:42:59,159 --> 00:43:00,369 You need to back off. 830 00:43:00,494 --> 00:43:01,579 And waste this outfit? 831 00:43:01,662 --> 00:43:03,122 The suits are amazing. 832 00:43:03,205 --> 00:43:06,208 And I'm so excited, personally, about her suit 833 00:43:06,292 --> 00:43:08,586 because it was something that, 834 00:43:08,669 --> 00:43:12,089 you know, we as a team really developed and really talked about. 835 00:43:12,214 --> 00:43:15,217 We look at who, you know, she was in the comics 836 00:43:15,301 --> 00:43:16,802 when she was in the suit, 837 00:43:17,094 --> 00:43:22,933 what elements of that suit were important to everybody and especially color palette. 838 00:43:23,017 --> 00:43:26,186 And so, all of us together trying to figure out 839 00:43:26,312 --> 00:43:29,148 what is gonna be the best look for Tatiana. 840 00:43:29,273 --> 00:43:33,569 One of the things we wanted to accomplish with her suit was have it be powerful, 841 00:43:33,652 --> 00:43:37,698 you know, not be male-gazey and all hypersexual. 842 00:43:37,781 --> 00:43:41,285 But also be free and show her body off. 843 00:43:43,621 --> 00:43:44,747 She-Hulk smash. 844 00:43:44,913 --> 00:43:48,542 It's cool to take a character who isn't slick and isn't cool 845 00:43:48,626 --> 00:43:53,589 and isn't confident physically or any of that and put her in this suit 846 00:43:53,672 --> 00:43:55,591 that feels very confident. 847 00:43:55,674 --> 00:44:00,429 And it does change me and it does feel like I can feel Jen's excitement. 848 00:44:00,846 --> 00:44:03,307 And like her, kind of, wonder at getting to be... 849 00:44:03,390 --> 00:44:05,184 Like, I, I'm going, like, 850 00:44:05,267 --> 00:44:08,520 "Oh, my God, I get to be a superhero the same way that I think she is." 851 00:44:09,188 --> 00:44:10,397 (GROANS) 852 00:44:10,814 --> 00:44:11,982 Gotcha. 853 00:44:13,942 --> 00:44:17,071 GAO: We really, really, really struggled with the finale. 854 00:44:17,154 --> 00:44:20,699 We started off doing a lot of versions of the finale that were much more 855 00:44:20,783 --> 00:44:23,827 just like straight and very, very Marvel movie, you know, 856 00:44:23,911 --> 00:44:26,664 and it just never felt right for us to just end in, like, 857 00:44:26,747 --> 00:44:31,168 a big set piece fight and you know, and take out the bad guy 858 00:44:31,251 --> 00:44:35,047 and it just always felt like, "Oh, it's a different show now." 859 00:44:35,130 --> 00:44:37,925 And Kevin was the first to kind of pinpoint that. He was like, 860 00:44:38,008 --> 00:44:39,426 "This isn't a Marvel movie. 861 00:44:39,510 --> 00:44:41,887 "Why are you trying to make it end like a Marvel movie? 862 00:44:41,970 --> 00:44:43,389 "That's not what the show is." 863 00:44:43,472 --> 00:44:47,101 And it was just really, really wonderful and freeing for him to say that. 864 00:44:47,267 --> 00:44:49,478 This is not gonna work, right? 865 00:44:50,145 --> 00:44:51,647 We're not actually doing this? 866 00:44:52,398 --> 00:44:55,901 BASS: At the end of the day, Todd really just knows that, like, 867 00:44:55,984 --> 00:44:59,363 he would be definitely the coolest Hulk. 868 00:44:59,446 --> 00:45:02,032 Maybe not the strongest, definitely not the tallest. 869 00:45:02,116 --> 00:45:07,746 I am, as I've been told, I believe, the shortest Hulk to date. 870 00:45:07,830 --> 00:45:08,914 (GRUNTS) 871 00:45:09,081 --> 00:45:10,290 (SCREAMS) 872 00:45:10,374 --> 00:45:11,375 Oh. Gross. 873 00:45:12,835 --> 00:45:18,465 The challenge with the finale was blocking and there's four CG characters. 874 00:45:18,882 --> 00:45:19,925 Oh, my gosh. Yeah. 875 00:45:20,008 --> 00:45:24,012 Then we have Abomination, who's picking Jen up and holding her up 876 00:45:24,096 --> 00:45:25,514 while he's fighting other people. 877 00:45:25,681 --> 00:45:26,807 Get her! 878 00:45:26,890 --> 00:45:28,058 JEN: Stop! 879 00:45:28,142 --> 00:45:30,686 GANDERTON: And then Hulk arrives. 880 00:45:30,811 --> 00:45:31,979 (GRUNTS) 881 00:45:32,146 --> 00:45:33,605 GANDERTON: You have Todd-Hulk. 882 00:45:33,689 --> 00:45:35,399 Yeah, come at me, bro. 883 00:45:35,524 --> 00:45:36,692 (ALL CHEERING) 884 00:45:36,817 --> 00:45:37,901 Surprise, losers. 885 00:45:38,152 --> 00:45:39,611 GANDERTON: And then Jameela fighting. 886 00:45:39,695 --> 00:45:41,363 God! Does that bitch ever use a door? 887 00:45:41,447 --> 00:45:45,033 Just doing the blocking and the design and making sure each character had 888 00:45:45,117 --> 00:45:49,121 the right moment for them and then trying to tie all that in together. 889 00:45:49,288 --> 00:45:50,789 It's like a really cool thing. 890 00:45:52,249 --> 00:45:55,919 You just go home, and you go, "That was pretty wild today, 891 00:45:56,003 --> 00:46:01,341 "acting opposite Ruffalo and, and Maslany in their CGI dots," 892 00:46:01,425 --> 00:46:04,386 and you know that that's gonna turn into 893 00:46:04,470 --> 00:46:06,305 what it's gonna turn into and... 894 00:46:06,638 --> 00:46:09,975 It's pretty crazy. This whole thing is pretty wild and special. 895 00:46:10,142 --> 00:46:12,811 None of these storylines make any sense. 896 00:46:14,563 --> 00:46:15,606 Is this working for you? 897 00:46:17,649 --> 00:46:19,485 Hey, what do you think you're doing? 898 00:46:19,610 --> 00:46:22,488 I've been in the Marvel Universe for almost ten years now. 899 00:46:22,571 --> 00:46:28,327 And I could say that I've never done anything that has been 900 00:46:28,410 --> 00:46:31,246 so close to destroying the Marvel Cinematic Universe 901 00:46:31,330 --> 00:46:32,998 as this show has. 902 00:46:34,583 --> 00:46:40,255 There's a lot of ways that the show kinda busts through to the viewer, 903 00:46:40,380 --> 00:46:45,677 the same way that She-Hulk in the comics spoke to the writer and the illustrator. 904 00:46:45,761 --> 00:46:48,013 And sort of, like, tried to guide her story. 905 00:46:48,096 --> 00:46:49,681 Ah, Marvel: Assembled. 906 00:46:49,765 --> 00:46:50,766 That'll do. (GRUNTS) 907 00:46:52,267 --> 00:46:54,394 GAO: It was Kevin who actually pitched 908 00:46:54,478 --> 00:46:58,023 She-Hulk coming out of the Disney Plus menu. 909 00:46:58,106 --> 00:47:01,568 I can't remember how we got to it but at one point, 910 00:47:01,652 --> 00:47:05,697 I had pitched that she should go through the studio and demand to talk to Kevin. 911 00:47:05,781 --> 00:47:09,159 Wow, She-Hulk. Welcome to Marvel Studios. How can we help you? 912 00:47:09,243 --> 00:47:10,327 I need to talk to Kevin. 913 00:47:10,410 --> 00:47:13,288 GAO: And at first, I pitched that she would finally get to, like, 914 00:47:13,372 --> 00:47:14,706 the inner sanctum of Kevin 915 00:47:14,832 --> 00:47:17,709 and we'd stunt-cast it with, like, Jon Hamm or some... 916 00:47:17,793 --> 00:47:19,586 Or George Clooney, like, 917 00:47:19,670 --> 00:47:22,714 some debonair handsome man in a tuxedo and that was Kevin. 918 00:47:22,798 --> 00:47:26,009 But then I was like, "No, no, no, no. It should be, like, 919 00:47:26,093 --> 00:47:30,222 "an Akira style, like AI kind of, you know, monstrous machine." 920 00:47:30,389 --> 00:47:31,974 K.E.V.I.N: Hello, Jennifer. 921 00:47:33,100 --> 00:47:34,393 Kevin? 922 00:47:34,643 --> 00:47:39,189 It stands for "Knowledge Enhanced Visual Interconnectivity Nexus." 923 00:47:39,690 --> 00:47:41,108 Were you expecting a man? 924 00:47:41,650 --> 00:47:46,655 Yeah. Why would I expect a giant AI brain and not a man? 925 00:47:46,738 --> 00:47:49,408 It's so nuts. It's so absurd. 926 00:47:50,075 --> 00:47:52,995 But I just can't wait to see how that sequence comes together. 927 00:47:53,078 --> 00:47:56,123 Because again, it was like in a mo-cap suit. 928 00:47:56,206 --> 00:47:58,667 I can't imagine what it'll look like when it's She-Hulk. 929 00:47:58,750 --> 00:48:01,962 Wait. So, you're the one who's making all the decisions here? 930 00:48:02,045 --> 00:48:03,839 I will answer your questions. 931 00:48:03,922 --> 00:48:06,675 But you must first transform back to Jennifer. 932 00:48:06,758 --> 00:48:07,759 Why? 933 00:48:07,885 --> 00:48:10,429 -You are very expensive. -Oh, sure. 934 00:48:10,512 --> 00:48:12,556 But wait until the camera is off you. 935 00:48:12,639 --> 00:48:15,434 The visual effects team has moved on to another project. 936 00:48:15,517 --> 00:48:18,562 -Okay. -There. Do it now. 937 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:21,732 -Better? -Thank you. 938 00:48:22,858 --> 00:48:27,154 GAO: In the script, I specified that when you meet the AI K.E.V.I.N, 939 00:48:27,237 --> 00:48:31,283 that it was just wearing a classic Kevin Feige black baseball hat. 940 00:48:31,408 --> 00:48:34,494 VisDev was doing different concept drawings of Kevin 941 00:48:34,578 --> 00:48:37,122 and he always had a little black baseball hat. 942 00:48:37,205 --> 00:48:40,834 And then when Kevin saw it, the real Kevin, he was like, 943 00:48:40,918 --> 00:48:43,754 "That doesn't make any sense. Why would a machine make a hat?" 944 00:48:43,837 --> 00:48:45,672 I was like, "You have a problem with that? 945 00:48:45,756 --> 00:48:47,507 "That's where you draw the line with logic? 946 00:48:47,591 --> 00:48:52,387 "That the machine that is you, who is behind the entire Marvel Universe 947 00:48:52,471 --> 00:48:54,514 "is wearing a baseball hat?" 948 00:48:54,598 --> 00:48:56,808 I leave that debate up to the Internet. 949 00:48:56,892 --> 00:49:00,228 GAO: So, they designed what looks like a hat 950 00:49:00,312 --> 00:49:03,398 built into the machine so that it is part of the machine, 951 00:49:03,482 --> 00:49:04,900 but it still looks like a hat. 952 00:49:05,067 --> 00:49:07,444 And that's kind of the happy medium that we arrived on. 953 00:49:07,569 --> 00:49:10,614 You will not be able to access the K-E-V-I-N again. 954 00:49:10,739 --> 00:49:11,782 What? 955 00:49:11,865 --> 00:49:13,700 That error on our platform has been fixed. 956 00:49:13,825 --> 00:49:17,162 So, get your K.E.V.I.N. hats at the Disney store. 957 00:49:17,329 --> 00:49:18,413 Welcome. 958 00:49:18,622 --> 00:49:20,248 Wonder if I get a discount here. 959 00:49:20,624 --> 00:49:22,542 -Twenty percent. -I'll take it. 960 00:49:24,044 --> 00:49:28,382 It still continues to be like a thing I'm trying to wrap my head around. 961 00:49:28,465 --> 00:49:32,052 Like, when we're on set, doing stuff like on location like this. 962 00:49:32,135 --> 00:49:35,764 I start to remember that this is, like, a whole universe that I'm part of. 963 00:49:35,847 --> 00:49:40,560 This is a multi-year journey you're about to embark on, 964 00:49:40,644 --> 00:49:43,522 on coming to terms with being the Hulk. 965 00:49:43,647 --> 00:49:45,649 It took a little bit of getting used to at first, 966 00:49:45,732 --> 00:49:49,444 just how interconnected everything has to be in the MCU. 967 00:49:49,528 --> 00:49:54,199 But then it is cool later on when you kind of see like 968 00:49:54,282 --> 00:49:57,828 the threads of different stories and characters going through, 969 00:49:57,911 --> 00:49:59,621 like, multiple projects. 970 00:49:59,705 --> 00:50:01,999 You got sucked in another show, didn't you? 971 00:50:02,332 --> 00:50:06,503 RUFFALO: Marvel has never let the weight of the Universe 972 00:50:06,586 --> 00:50:09,881 drag them into something boring. 973 00:50:09,965 --> 00:50:12,968 Because of it, it's alive and it's constantly shifting, 974 00:50:13,093 --> 00:50:14,761 just like the comics were. 975 00:50:14,845 --> 00:50:16,013 It's good. 976 00:50:16,555 --> 00:50:18,348 -It's good to be a Hulk. -Yeah. 977 00:50:18,432 --> 00:50:20,600 VALIA: It is such an incredible honor 978 00:50:20,684 --> 00:50:27,524 to be able to be a small part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. 979 00:50:27,607 --> 00:50:30,569 Like, it's such grand storytelling. 980 00:50:31,236 --> 00:50:34,740 So, to be able to come in and get to work with these actors, 981 00:50:34,865 --> 00:50:38,285 and get to work with these writers and with Kevin, it's just, like... 982 00:50:38,618 --> 00:50:40,746 "I can't believe it. What am I doing here?" 983 00:50:40,829 --> 00:50:41,913 (LAUGHS) 984 00:50:41,997 --> 00:50:44,332 That was so good. That was it! 985 00:50:44,583 --> 00:50:46,626 JACOBSON: Being here seeing it all come to fruition 986 00:50:46,710 --> 00:50:48,587 and seeing what every single person 987 00:50:48,670 --> 00:50:51,965 has added to what I already thought was a really special project 988 00:50:52,090 --> 00:50:53,967 has been the biggest highlight for me. 989 00:50:54,051 --> 00:50:57,262 COIRO: When I would have hard days, or something didn't go right, 990 00:50:57,387 --> 00:50:59,056 or I felt tired or frustrated... 991 00:50:59,139 --> 00:51:00,932 Trying to remember my Doctor Strange. 992 00:51:01,058 --> 00:51:03,602 ...I'd just pull up one of my favorite little scenes 993 00:51:03,685 --> 00:51:06,229 and watch it and be like, "We're doing this." 994 00:51:07,397 --> 00:51:09,691 I think everybody is just so excited to be here, 995 00:51:09,775 --> 00:51:12,319 so everyone's bringing this really, 996 00:51:12,444 --> 00:51:15,405 positive, collaborative energy. 997 00:51:15,530 --> 00:51:16,573 (ALL LAUGHING) 998 00:51:16,656 --> 00:51:18,700 It's been an embarrassment of riches. 999 00:51:18,909 --> 00:51:22,579 We keep one-uping how cool everyone is and that just makes it so fun. 1000 00:51:22,662 --> 00:51:25,123 I remember distinctly, when we were wrapping, 1001 00:51:25,207 --> 00:51:29,169 I was like, "I don't know if I'm gonna have an experience like this again." 1002 00:51:29,252 --> 00:51:30,962 And I'm so grateful for it. 1003 00:51:31,588 --> 00:51:32,881 (ALL CHEERING) 1004 00:51:33,131 --> 00:51:35,050 Yes, yes, yes, yes! 1005 00:51:38,136 --> 00:51:40,138 (FUNKY INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PLAYING) 1006 00:51:48,688 --> 00:51:50,315 It takes shield's power. 1007 00:51:50,941 --> 00:51:53,527 You've taken me from zero to just above zero. 1008 00:51:55,445 --> 00:51:56,571 (GRUNTS) 1009 00:51:58,782 --> 00:51:59,783 (GROANS) 1010 00:51:59,908 --> 00:52:01,243 Was that a spoiler? 1011 00:52:02,244 --> 00:52:03,787 Can we rewind the tape? 1012 00:52:03,870 --> 00:52:05,122 (GRUNTS) 1013 00:52:05,205 --> 00:52:07,707 It's not that I'm into superheroes. 1014 00:52:07,791 --> 00:52:11,378 I'm just more attracted to superheroes. Okay? That's not weird. You know? 1015 00:52:11,461 --> 00:52:13,880 You're the weird one, for saying that that's weird. 1016 00:52:13,964 --> 00:52:16,758 So, I'm having trouble remembering the line. 1017 00:52:17,008 --> 00:52:19,970 (BANNER AND JEN SCREAMING) 1018 00:52:24,850 --> 00:52:27,978 It was easy. I wasn't scared at all. Not for a second. 1019 00:52:28,436 --> 00:52:29,813 I'm taking this. 1020 00:52:30,939 --> 00:52:32,065 Is this gluten free? 1021 00:52:32,732 --> 00:52:33,733 Is it? 1022 00:52:34,025 --> 00:52:35,026 Oh, whatever. 1023 00:52:37,362 --> 00:52:40,949 So, um... Yeah, I wanna go with the burned sienna, or just sienna. 1024 00:52:41,032 --> 00:52:44,286 Have you heard of the saying that it's dangerous to corner a wild frog? 1025 00:52:44,703 --> 00:52:49,791 Actually, have Carrington, and Bob Thompson just switch jobs. 1026 00:52:49,958 --> 00:52:52,043 All buzz, no bad. 1027 00:52:52,502 --> 00:52:53,628 (BOTH CHUCKLE) 1028 00:52:54,004 --> 00:52:55,463 Yeah. Okay. 1029 00:52:55,672 --> 00:52:58,967 These are... These are... These are all for you, bruh. 1030 00:52:59,050 --> 00:53:00,927 -These are all for you, bruh. -Okay. 1031 00:53:01,052 --> 00:53:04,681 -A bodacious buzz, no bleh. -All right. Okay. 1032 00:53:05,015 --> 00:53:07,684 Oh, and find out if my sister's still alive. 1033 00:53:08,226 --> 00:53:13,440 I am still prettier than all of you. (SOBBING) 1034 00:53:15,775 --> 00:53:17,485 -(ALL EXCLAIMING) -(JAMEELA LAUGHS)