1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,844 >>> PROTESTING ANTHEMS. YES, WE CHANT. 2 00:00:03,844 --> 00:00:08,886 A MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE. IT'S LIKE WE'RE DANCING TO THE 3 00:00:08,886 --> 00:00:13,891 MINISTRY OF, IT'S THE ENERGY OF AND THE MEMORY OF THEM THAT WE 4 00:00:13,891 --> 00:00:16,260 LOVE. THE TRINITY OF THE PEOPLE, THE 5 00:00:16,260 --> 00:00:19,863 PEACE, THE POWER. THE TRUTH WE SPEAK TO POWER IS 6 00:00:19,863 --> 00:00:23,867 EVEN LOUDER. WE CAN SEE IT BLACKER, WE CAN 7 00:00:23,867 --> 00:00:25,969 SAY IT PROUDER. A WOMAN VICE PRESIDENT THAT WENT 8 00:00:25,969 --> 00:00:29,640 TO HOWARD. NOW WE TALK HEALTH AND BLACK 9 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,776 BUSINESSES AND OUR DIFFERENCES IS MAGNIFICENCE. 10 00:00:32,776 --> 00:00:38,882 BRINGING LIGHT TO THE POOR WERE THE PRISONS IS. 11 00:00:38,882 --> 00:00:43,287 I WAS TOLD GOOD LIGHT IS WHERE FORGIVENESS IS. 12 00:00:43,287 --> 00:00:46,990 ASCENSION IS TO LEAVE WHAT'S LEFT BEHIND AND FEED THE SEEDS 13 00:00:46,990 --> 00:00:51,562 TO BLESS THE MIND, CARESS THE MIND, REQUEST THE JUSTIFYING 14 00:00:51,562 --> 00:00:54,098 WHERE YOU AND GOD IN TIME ARE BEST IN LINE. 15 00:00:54,098 --> 00:00:57,000 POWER REFINED FOR THIS WHOLE DEMONSTRATION. 16 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,235 WE'RE GOING TO DIG DEEP INTO THE 17 00:00:58,235 --> 00:01:06,143 SOUL OF A NATION. 18 00:01:06,143 --> 00:01:26,397 ♪♪ 19 00:01:26,397 --> 00:01:32,403 >>> WELCOME TO "SOUL OF A NATION." I'M STERLING KAY BROWN. 20 00:01:32,403 --> 00:01:35,939 TONIGHT AND FOR THE NEXT FEW WEEKS WE WILL TAKE YOU A JOURNEY 21 00:01:35,939 --> 00:01:38,275 ACROSS AMERICA FROM THE PULPIT TO THE SOUND STAGE. 22 00:01:38,275 --> 00:01:42,713 FROM THE COAST TO THE KITCHEN. YOU'LL SEE WHAT I MEAN BY THAT 23 00:01:42,713 --> 00:01:46,283 LATER. WE'RE HERE TO EXPLORE THE AUTHENTIC LIVES AND EXPERIENCES 24 00:01:46,283 --> 00:01:51,488 OF BLACK FOLKS IN THIS COUNTRY. TONIGHT'S THEME, "RECKONINGS." 25 00:01:51,488 --> 00:01:54,091 IT'S A WORD WE'VE ALL BEEN HEARING A LOT OF LATELY. 26 00:01:54,091 --> 00:01:56,193 BUT HAS AMERICA REALLY MOVED INTO A MOMENT OF RACIAL 27 00:01:56,193 --> 00:02:04,034 RECKONING? TONIGHT WE'LL HEAR FROM A WOMAN 28 00:02:04,034 --> 00:02:08,972 WHO WORKED TO PASS THE FIRST RECONCILIATION IN AMERICA. 29 00:02:08,972 --> 00:02:13,043 AND JOHN LEGEND GETS LIFTED. OUR FIRST STORY WALKS IN THE 30 00:02:13,043 --> 00:02:15,179 LARGE SHOES OF HARRY DUNN, A 6 FOOT 7 INCH BLACK MAN WHO 31 00:02:15,179 --> 00:02:17,247 ALONG WITH HIS FELLOW CAPITOL POLICE OFFICERS, FOUND HIMSELF 32 00:02:17,247 --> 00:02:19,850 AT THE HEART OF JANUARY'S BRUTAL INSURRECTION AT THE CAPITOL, 33 00:02:19,850 --> 00:02:22,986 LEFT TO CONFRONT A QUESTION MANY OF US HAVE ASKED ‐‐ IS THIS 34 00:02:22,986 --> 00:02:29,359 AMERICA? A WARNING, THIS SEGMENT CONTAINS 35 00:02:29,359 --> 00:02:31,595 STRONG LANGUAGE. HE SITS DOWN WITH ABC'S CHIEF 36 00:02:31,595 --> 00:02:32,663 JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT, PIERRE 37 00:02:32,663 --> 00:02:45,676 THOMAS. 38 00:02:45,676 --> 00:02:48,245 >> I WANTED TO BE A POLICE OFFICER AS A KID. 39 00:02:48,245 --> 00:02:53,484 EVERYBODY, I THINK, IS INGRAINED IN YOU TO WANNA HELP AND BE A 40 00:02:53,484 --> 00:02:56,620 GOOD PERSON, AT THAT AGE. 41 00:02:56,620 --> 00:02:59,223 >> WAS THERE SOMETHING ABOUT CAPITOL POLICE IN PARTICULAR? 42 00:02:59,223 --> 00:03:01,325 >> NO. IT JUST HAD A LOT OF PRESTIGE 43 00:03:01,325 --> 00:03:07,097 WITH IT. THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK AT THE 44 00:03:07,097 --> 00:03:11,268 CAPITOL. 45 00:03:11,268 --> 00:03:13,871 >> FIRST TIME I WENT IN WAS WHEN I GOT HIRED. 46 00:03:13,871 --> 00:03:17,007 IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING. IT WAS BUILT BY SLAVES. 47 00:03:17,007 --> 00:03:18,041 LIKE, THAT'S INCREDIBLE. 48 00:03:18,041 --> 00:03:20,677 >> I GREW UP IN CENTRAL VIRGINIA. 49 00:03:20,677 --> 00:03:23,814 FATHER WHO COULD BARELY READ. MOTHER WHO CLEANED WHITE FOLKS' 50 00:03:23,814 --> 00:03:28,519 HOUSES. AND I'M ON NATIONAL TV. AND I'M WALKIN' IN THE CAPITOL. 51 00:03:28,519 --> 00:03:31,655 AND I'M, LIKE, "WOW." IT'S HARD TO NOT BE IN AWE OF IT 52 00:03:31,655 --> 00:03:38,395 WHEN YOU SEE IT. 53 00:03:38,395 --> 00:03:46,737 >> LET'S GO TO JANUARY 6th. 54 00:03:46,737 --> 00:03:49,339 WHAT'S THE FIRST MOMENT THAT YOU BEGAN TO GET A SENSE THAT 55 00:03:49,339 --> 00:03:54,578 SOMETHIN' IS OFF KILTER HERE? 56 00:03:54,578 --> 00:04:00,817 >> WE WERE TOLD TO GET HELMETS, RIOT HELMETS. THAT WAS NEW. 57 00:04:00,817 --> 00:04:06,590 THE CROWDS JUST CONTINUE TO GROW AND GROW AND GROW. LIKE, WHOA. 58 00:04:06,590 --> 00:04:12,329 IT ‐‐ YOU JUST SEE A SEA OF PEOPLE, TRUMP FLAGS, CONFEDERATE 59 00:04:12,329 --> 00:04:18,135 FLAGS. 60 00:04:18,135 --> 00:04:20,704 >> MULTIPLE CAPITOL INJURIES! 61 00:04:20,704 --> 00:04:25,042 >> WE FOUGHT WITH THESE PEOPLE WHO WERE PREPARED FOR A FIGHT. 62 00:04:25,042 --> 00:04:27,678 THEY HAD ON BODY ARMOR. THEY HAD ON TWO‐WAY RADIOS. 63 00:04:27,678 --> 00:04:30,280 THEY HAD ON TACTICAL GEAR, BULLETPROOF VESTS. 64 00:04:30,280 --> 00:04:35,519 THEY WERE READY TO GO. AT ONE POINT, WE'RE IN THE 65 00:04:35,519 --> 00:04:39,690 BUILDING NOW. THE FIRST ENCOUNTER THAT I SAW 66 00:04:39,690 --> 00:04:43,327 WAS A GUY WITH A BLUE LIVES MATTER FLAG. 67 00:04:43,327 --> 00:04:46,496 AND I SAID TO THE GUY, BUT YOU'RE ALL KICKIN' OUR ASS OUT 68 00:04:46,496 --> 00:04:52,769 HERE WITH THAT FLAG. AND AS ONE OF THE GUYS KEPT 69 00:04:52,769 --> 00:04:56,406 WALKING BY, THE OTHER ONE PULLED OUT HIS BADGE, AND SAID, "TRUST 70 00:04:56,406 --> 00:05:01,111 ME, I UNDERSTAND. WE'RE DOIN' THIS FOR YOU, BUDDY." 71 00:05:01,111 --> 00:05:04,781 YOU GOTTA BE KIDDIN' ME. THEY CALLED US TRAITORS. 72 00:05:04,781 --> 00:05:06,350 >> TRAITORS! 73 00:05:06,350 --> 00:05:09,486 >> HOLD THE LINE PATRIOTS! HOLD THE LINE! 74 00:05:09,486 --> 00:05:13,657 >> THIS IS OUR HOUSE! GET OFF OUR PROPERTY! 75 00:05:13,657 --> 00:05:17,828 >> SO I ENCOUNTERED A GROUP OF 30, 40 PEOPLE. 76 00:05:17,828 --> 00:05:20,464 THEY JUST STARTED TALKIN' TO ME. THEY WERE SAYING HOW JOE BIDEN 77 00:05:20,464 --> 00:05:27,804 DID NOT WIN THE ELECTION. AND NOBODY VOTED FOR HIM. 78 00:05:27,804 --> 00:05:32,476 SO I TOOK THE BAIT. AND I ‐‐ "OKAY, WHAT ABOUT ME? 79 00:05:32,476 --> 00:05:37,648 I VOTED FOR JOE BIDEN. DOES MY VOTE NOT COUNT?" 80 00:05:37,648 --> 00:05:42,853 AND THEN A GUY AND HIS GIRLFRIEND, SHE HAD ON A PINK 81 00:05:42,853 --> 00:05:44,955 MAGA SHIRT, SAID, "HEY, THIS 82 00:05:44,955 --> 00:05:45,989 [ BLEEP ] VOTED FOR JOE BIDEN, 83 00:05:45,989 --> 00:05:49,660 GUYS. HEY, EVERYBODY, THIS [ BLEEP ] 84 00:05:49,660 --> 00:05:53,830 VOTED FOR JOE BIDEN." THEY SAY, "YOU [ BLEEP ] ‐‐" 85 00:05:53,830 --> 00:05:55,432 >> SO THE CROWD JOINED IN WITH ‐‐ 86 00:05:55,432 --> 00:05:59,069 >> EVERYBODY. EVERYBODY JOINED IN WITH HIM. 87 00:05:59,069 --> 00:06:05,876 IT DIDN'T REGISTER WITH ME AT THE TIME THAT I WAS A TARGET OF 88 00:06:05,876 --> 00:06:08,478 JUST A RACIST ATTACK. 89 00:06:08,478 --> 00:06:14,217 >> YOU KNOW, I GREW UP IN THE SOUTH. 90 00:06:14,217 --> 00:06:22,059 I'VE BEEN CALLED THAT WORD. THE WORD IS A WEAPON. 91 00:06:22,059 --> 00:06:26,263 IT'S A WEAPON TO INFLICT PSYCHOLOGICAL DAMAGE. 92 00:06:26,263 --> 00:06:28,365 IT'S A WORD TO INFLICT PHYSICAL DAMAGE. 93 00:06:28,365 --> 00:06:30,967 YOU FEEL SOME KINDA WAY ABOUT IT ONCE IT'S SAID TO YOU. 94 00:06:30,967 --> 00:06:34,538 YOU'RE IN THE CAPITOL, DEFENDING THE CAPITOL. 95 00:06:34,538 --> 00:06:38,208 AND SOMEHOW RACE SEEPED INTO THAT, TOO. 96 00:06:38,208 --> 00:06:41,845 YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WANTS TO SAY THAT IT WAS ABOUT POLITICS AND 97 00:06:41,845 --> 00:06:45,482 EVERYTHING. BUT IT WAS A LARGE NUMBER OF 98 00:06:45,482 --> 00:06:52,322 PEOPLE IN THAT CROWD THAT WERE RACIST. 99 00:06:52,322 --> 00:06:54,925 THEY FOUGHT US. THEY HAD CONFEDERATE FLAGS IN 100 00:06:54,925 --> 00:06:58,061 THE U. S. CAPITOL. 101 00:06:58,061 --> 00:07:00,664 >> FOR PEOPLE THAT TALK ABOUT THE CONFEDERATE FLAG AND THE 102 00:07:00,664 --> 00:07:05,368 CONFEDERACY AND SAY IT WAS NOBLE, AND IT'S HERITAGE, I HAVE 103 00:07:05,368 --> 00:07:11,108 A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FACT‐BASED RESPONSE TO THAT. 104 00:07:11,108 --> 00:07:15,312 TRAITORS, TREASON, YOU LOST. SO MANY PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW 105 00:07:15,312 --> 00:07:18,448 WHAT THAT FLAG MEANS. IT REPRESENTS A CULTURE AND A 106 00:07:18,448 --> 00:07:20,016 HERITAGE. 107 00:07:20,016 --> 00:07:26,790 YEAH, OF RACISM. 108 00:07:26,790 --> 00:07:30,460 SO WE SEE OTHER AGENCIES MOVING THROUGH THE BUILDING AND 109 00:07:30,460 --> 00:07:33,497 CLEARING OUT AREAS. I'M EXHAUSTED. 110 00:07:33,497 --> 00:07:36,666 MY SHIRT'S DRENCHED IN SWEAT, PEPPER SPRAY. 111 00:07:36,666 --> 00:07:39,803 I GOT BLOOD AND CUTS ON MY KNUCKLES. 112 00:07:39,803 --> 00:07:43,974 AND I SAT DOWN IN THE ‐‐ THE ROTUNDA, LIKE I TALKED ABOUT 113 00:07:43,974 --> 00:07:46,610 EARLIER. YOU LOOK UP, AND YOU'RE JUST IN 114 00:07:46,610 --> 00:07:49,746 AWE. BUT THIS TIME YOU LOOK UP, IT'S 115 00:07:49,746 --> 00:07:50,781 JUST A CLOUD OF SMOKE. 116 00:07:50,781 --> 00:07:51,815 >> THE ROTUNDA? 117 00:07:51,815 --> 00:07:52,349 >> THE ROTUNDA. 118 00:07:52,349 --> 00:07:53,383 >> THE PINNACLE ‐‐ 119 00:07:53,383 --> 00:07:54,451 >> OF THE C ‐‐ 120 00:07:54,451 --> 00:07:58,622 >> ‐‐ OF DEMOCRACY. ‐‐ AMERICAN DEMOCRACY. 121 00:07:58,622 --> 00:08:01,258 AND I SAT DOWN WITH A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE AND I SAID, "WHAT 122 00:08:01,258 --> 00:08:05,428 THE HELL HAPPENED?" 123 00:08:05,428 --> 00:08:10,634 AND I JUST STARTED TO CRY. 124 00:08:10,634 --> 00:08:14,805 AND I TOLD HIM, "I GOT CALLED A 125 00:08:14,805 --> 00:08:18,508 [ BLEEP ] COUPLE DOZEN TIMES 126 00:08:18,508 --> 00:08:22,646 TODAY, PROTECTIN' THIS BUILDIN'. 127 00:08:22,646 --> 00:08:26,817 IS THIS AMERICA? 128 00:08:26,817 --> 00:08:32,589 >> AND IT SEEMS LIKE THAT ORIGINAL SIN OF THIS COUNTRY, IT 129 00:08:32,589 --> 00:08:38,261 ALWAYS SEEPS ITS WAY BACK IN. WHY CAN'T WE ESCAPE THAT? 130 00:08:38,261 --> 00:08:45,602 >> BECAUSE THIS IS AMERICA. IT SHOULDN'T BE THIS WAY. 131 00:08:45,602 --> 00:08:50,273 A LOT OF MY WHITE OFFICER COWORKERS, THEY DIDN'T CALL ‐‐ 132 00:08:50,273 --> 00:08:54,978 GET CALLED A [ BLEEP ]. SO WE ALL FOUGHT THE SAME 133 00:08:54,978 --> 00:09:00,217 BATTLES, BUT THEY WERE DIFFERENT. IT'S A TOUGH ‐‐ IT'S A TOUGH 134 00:09:00,217 --> 00:09:04,921 BALANCE THAT BEING A BLACK MAN AND A BLACK POLICE OFFICER. 135 00:09:04,921 --> 00:09:10,694 >> I SEE A MAN WHO FOUGHT TO DO HIS JOB, WHO FOUGHT FOR 136 00:09:10,694 --> 00:09:14,331 DEMOCRACY. THE WORD "PATRIOTISM" IS GOIN' 137 00:09:14,331 --> 00:09:17,968 AROUND ALL THE TIME IN THIS COUNTRY. 138 00:09:17,968 --> 00:09:20,604 BLACK PEOPLE IN PARTICULAR, WE OFTEN DON'T GET THE CREDIT THAT 139 00:09:20,604 --> 00:09:25,308 WE'RE DUE FOR BEING AS PATRIOTIC AS WE ARE. 140 00:09:25,308 --> 00:09:29,479 GRANDFATHER, WORLD WAR I, CAME HOME TO SEGREGATION. 141 00:09:29,479 --> 00:09:32,616 PEOPLE FOUGHT IN WORLD WAR II, SAME DEAL, CAME HOME TO 142 00:09:32,616 --> 00:09:37,254 SEGREGATION. AND I THINK DOC RIVERS SAID 143 00:09:37,254 --> 00:09:39,856 SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT THAT, "WE LOVE OUR COUNTRY EVEN WHEN 144 00:09:39,856 --> 00:09:42,993 IT DOESN'T LOVE US BACK SOMETIMES." 145 00:09:42,993 --> 00:09:47,197 >> WHEN YOU THINK OF THE WORD "PATRIOTISM" AS A BLACK MAN, 146 00:09:47,197 --> 00:09:49,799 WHAT DO YOU THINK? 147 00:09:49,799 --> 00:09:52,435 >> THOSE TERRORISTS ON THE 6th, THEY SAID THAT THEY WERE 148 00:09:52,435 --> 00:09:56,606 PATRIOTS. SELF PROCLAIMED PATRIOTS. 149 00:09:56,606 --> 00:10:00,777 SO I DON'T WANT TO USE ‐‐ I WON'T USE THE WORD "PATRIOT." 150 00:10:00,777 --> 00:10:08,618 >> I DONT WANT TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THEM AT ALL. 151 00:10:08,618 --> 00:10:13,323 IF PEOPLE GET ANYTHING OUT OF THIS INTERVIEW, IT WAS REAL 152 00:10:13,323 --> 00:10:16,993 PEOPLE IN THAT BUILDING DEFENDING THE CONGRESS AND 153 00:10:16,993 --> 00:10:18,528 DEMOCRACY. 154 00:10:18,528 --> 00:10:19,596 >> REAL PEOPLE. 155 00:10:19,596 --> 00:10:25,869 >> NOT "THE POLICE." NO, REAL PEOPLE. 156 00:10:25,869 --> 00:10:29,539 >> REAL AMERICANS. I WANT THAT MESSAGE TO BE KNOWN 157 00:10:29,539 --> 00:10:35,745 THAT WE FOUGHT HARD TO DEFEND DEMOCRACY AND PROTECT EACH OTHER. 158 00:10:35,745 --> 00:10:37,847 AND I WANT THAT POINT TO BE KNOWN THAT I'M PROUD OF THEM. 159 00:10:37,847 --> 00:10:43,053 AND WE FOUGHT REALLY HARD. 160 00:10:43,053 --> 00:10:46,723 >> COMING UP ‐‐ JOHN LEGEND IS SOUL PERSONIFIED, 161 00:10:46,723 --> 00:10:51,428 BUT THIS YEAR HE EXPANDED HIS ARTISTRY AND HIS ACTIVISM. 162 00:10:51,428 --> 00:10:55,098 >> I COULD CHOOSE TO NOT BE RISKY. 163 00:10:55,098 --> 00:10:58,234 BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE I CAN'T BE THAT PERSON. 164 00:10:58,234 --> 00:11:04,374 THAT'S NEXT ON SOUL OF A NATION. 165 00:11:11,495 --> 00:11:14,749 >>> WELCOME BACK TO "SOUL OF A NATION." 166 00:11:14,749 --> 00:11:18,269 TO JOHN LEGEND, ART AND ACTIVISM GO TOGETHER LIKE THE BLACK AND 167 00:11:18,269 --> 00:11:21,972 WHITE KEYS AT HIS FINGERTIPS. HE BELIEVES SONGS ARE CAPABLE OF 168 00:11:21,972 --> 00:11:26,677 CREATING TRANSFORMATIVE CHANGE. AND FOR HIM, MUSIC SERVES AS A 169 00:11:26,677 --> 00:11:30,314 SOUNDTRACK OF RESILIENCE AT A TIME WHEN HIS HEART, AND ALL OF 170 00:11:30,314 --> 00:11:35,019 OUR HEARTS ARE BREAKING. HERE'S ABC'S ADRIENNE BANKERT. 171 00:11:35,019 --> 00:11:40,791 >> WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RECKONING, WE CAN'T DO THE RECKONING 172 00:11:40,791 --> 00:11:43,928 WITHOUT DOING A REAL ASSESSMENT OF WHAT AMERICAN HISTORY HAS 173 00:11:43,928 --> 00:11:48,098 BEEN. AMERICA PROMISED ALL THESE IDEALS, BUT BLACK PEOPLE WERE 174 00:11:48,098 --> 00:11:51,235 LIKE, HEY, BUT WHAT ABOUT US? YOU TOLD US IT WAS ABOUT 175 00:11:51,235 --> 00:11:54,905 EQUALITY. YOU TOLD US THAT ALL MEN AND 176 00:11:54,905 --> 00:11:58,576 WOMEN WERE CREATED EQUAL. YOU TOLD US THAT WE HAD EQUAL 177 00:11:58,576 --> 00:12:01,178 PROTECTION UNDER THE LAW, BUT YOU DIDN'T FULFILL THAT PROMISE 178 00:12:01,178 --> 00:12:03,247 AND WE ARE EVIDENCE OF THAT. BLACK PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SAYING 179 00:12:03,247 --> 00:12:07,017 THAT FOR CENTURIES. 180 00:12:07,017 --> 00:12:12,323 ♪ WE SHALL OVERCOME ♪ 181 00:12:12,323 --> 00:12:15,492 >> AND THERE HAVE BEEN GENERATIONS SINGING ABOUT IT. 182 00:12:15,492 --> 00:12:18,095 SONGS LIKE "WE SHALL OVERCOME" FOR JUST AS LONG. 183 00:12:18,095 --> 00:12:21,565 JOHN LEGEND IS NO EXCEPTION. 184 00:12:21,565 --> 00:12:24,868 ♪ ONE DAY WHEN THE GLORY COMES ♪ 185 00:12:24,868 --> 00:12:27,471 USING ANTHEMS LIKE "GLORY" THAT HE CO‐WROTE FOR THE FILM "SELMA" 186 00:12:27,471 --> 00:12:32,209 TO CONNECT ART AND ACTIVISM. FOR HIM, IT'S ABOUT STORYTELLING. 187 00:12:32,209 --> 00:12:38,983 FROM HIS HIT SINGLE, "ORDINARY PEOPLE." 188 00:12:38,983 --> 00:12:44,121 ♪ WE'RE JUST ORDINARY PEOPLE ♪ 189 00:12:44,121 --> 00:12:50,127 TO THE INTIMATE BALLAD "ALL OF ME," HE AIMS TO CONNECT 190 00:12:50,127 --> 00:12:52,730 WITH HIS AUDIENCE, AND CONNECT THEM TO EACH OTHER. 191 00:12:52,730 --> 00:12:55,866 >> I LOVE ART BECAUSE ART HELPS US ENVISION A NEW WORLD. 192 00:12:55,866 --> 00:12:58,469 IT HELPS US BECOME CLOSER TO EACH OTHER, IT HELPS US SEE EACH 193 00:12:58,469 --> 00:13:02,640 OTHER'S HUMANITY. 194 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,275 >> WITH GEORGE FLOYD'S DEATH AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS THAT 195 00:13:05,275 --> 00:13:09,446 HAPPENED. WAS YOUR HEART BREAKING? 196 00:13:09,446 --> 00:13:11,015 I MEAN, WHAT WERE YOU THINKING? 197 00:13:11,015 --> 00:13:15,219 >> AT FIRST I WAS JUST MAD AND GRIEVING. 198 00:13:15,219 --> 00:13:19,390 I HATE THIS REPEATED STORY THAT IS SO MUCH A PART OF BLACK 199 00:13:19,390 --> 00:13:24,528 AMERICANS' EXPERIENCE. I WANT IT TO STOP. 200 00:13:24,528 --> 00:13:26,630 AND THEN I TRIED TO BE A PART OF A CONVERSATION IN THE COUNTRY 201 00:13:26,630 --> 00:13:30,834 WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE DO TO DO BETTER. 202 00:13:30,834 --> 00:13:35,005 WE'VE SPENT FAR TOO MUCH ON LAW ENFORCEMENT ON JAILS AND ON 203 00:13:35,005 --> 00:13:37,641 PRISONS AND BLACK PEOPLE HAVE BEEN BEARING THE BRUNT OF THAT. 204 00:13:37,641 --> 00:13:40,744 >> WHEN YOU WERE GROWING UP, WERE YOU THINKING ALL THE TIME, 205 00:13:40,744 --> 00:13:42,846 LIKE I'M GOING TO MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE. 206 00:13:42,846 --> 00:13:43,881 I'M GOING TO CHANGE THINGS. 207 00:13:43,881 --> 00:13:44,948 >> I DID! 208 00:13:44,948 --> 00:13:45,983 >> YOU DID?! 209 00:13:45,983 --> 00:13:48,085 >> I DID THINK THIS. I EVEN WROTE AN ESSAY ABOUT IT 210 00:13:48,085 --> 00:13:50,688 WHEN I WAS 15. I SAID, "I'M GOING TO BE A 211 00:13:50,688 --> 00:13:54,858 SUCCESSFUL MUSICIAN. I'M GONNA USE THAT SUCCESS AND 212 00:13:54,858 --> 00:13:56,994 FAME AND ACCLAIM TO MAKE MY COMMUNITY BETTER." 213 00:13:56,994 --> 00:14:00,097 AND IT WAS INFORMED BY THE ARTISTS THAT I LOVE, LIKE 214 00:14:00,097 --> 00:14:02,733 STEVIE WONDER AND MARVIN GAYE AND NINA SIMONE AND 215 00:14:02,733 --> 00:14:06,370 ARETHA FRANKLIN. BUT IT WAS ALSO INFORMED BY THE 216 00:14:06,370 --> 00:14:08,972 ACTIVISTS THAT I HAD BEEN READING ABOUT SINCE I WAS A KID. 217 00:14:08,972 --> 00:14:13,677 THEY WERE MY SUPERHEROES AND I WANTED TO LIVE A LIFE THAT WAS 218 00:14:13,677 --> 00:14:16,280 IMPACTFUL LIKE THEY DID. 219 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,916 >> THE MESSAGE OF IMPACT CAN BE FOUND IN HIS FILM COMPANY GET 220 00:14:18,916 --> 00:14:22,553 LIFTED AND THE STORIES THAT HE, AND HIS PRODUCING PARTNER 221 00:14:22,553 --> 00:14:24,588 MIKE JACKSON, HAVE SHARED. THEIR DIVERSE SLATE OF CONTENT 222 00:14:24,588 --> 00:14:28,225 HIGHLIGHTS THE CREATIVE AND CREATORS THAT ARE 223 00:14:28,225 --> 00:14:31,361 UNAPOLOGETICALLY BLACK. 224 00:14:31,361 --> 00:14:33,464 >> WE WANT TO ELEVATE CERTAIN CREATORS THAT MAY HAVE BEEN 225 00:14:33,464 --> 00:14:35,032 OVERLOOKED. 226 00:14:35,032 --> 00:14:38,168 >> I AIN'T NEVER MET NO MAN THAT MEANT NOBODY NO GOOD. 227 00:14:38,168 --> 00:14:41,305 >> THEIR DOCUMENTARY, "GIVING VOICE," FOLLOWS STUDENTS FROM 228 00:14:41,305 --> 00:14:44,975 ACROSS THE COUNTRY, LIKE CHICAGO NATIVE NIA SARFO AS THEY COMPETE 229 00:14:44,975 --> 00:14:47,578 IN THE AUGUST WILSON MONOLOGUE COMPETITION. 230 00:14:47,578 --> 00:14:50,714 >> I DON'T TRUST NONE OF THESE MEN. 231 00:14:50,714 --> 00:14:54,351 THEATRE CAN REALLY TRANSFORM AND I MEAN REALLY. 232 00:14:54,351 --> 00:14:57,488 I FELT LIKE PEOPLE WERE SEEING ME FOR THE FIRST TIME. 233 00:14:57,488 --> 00:14:59,590 >> AND I ALSO GOT TO WRITE A SONG FOR IT. 234 00:14:59,590 --> 00:15:03,260 A SONG CALLED "NEVER BREAK." A SONG ABOUT HUMAN RESILIENCE 235 00:15:03,260 --> 00:15:05,863 AND THE POWER OF LOVE TO GET US THROUGH ALL THE CHALLENGES THAT 236 00:15:05,863 --> 00:15:06,897 WE FACE IN OUR LIVES. 237 00:15:06,897 --> 00:15:12,669 >> YOU'RE GOING TO BE SINGING THIS SONG NEVER BREAK FOR US. 238 00:15:12,669 --> 00:15:14,738 WHAT IS CONTINUING TO BREATHE LIFE INTO THAT SONG FOR YOU? 239 00:15:14,738 --> 00:15:18,408 >> SO I WROTE THIS SONG IN 2019, AND THEN EVERYBODY KNOWS 240 00:15:18,408 --> 00:15:23,580 WHAT 2020 BROUGHT. IT BROUGHT SO MANY CHALLENGES TO 241 00:15:23,580 --> 00:15:25,682 THE WORLD. AND THEN IT BROUGHT CHALLENGES 242 00:15:25,682 --> 00:15:31,421 TO MY OWN FAMILY. WE LOST A BABY. THAT WAS A TIME WHEN THAT SONG 243 00:15:31,421 --> 00:15:34,558 NEVER BREAK REALLY MEANT THE MOST TO ME BECAUSE WE'D NEVER 244 00:15:34,558 --> 00:15:38,195 BEEN TESTED LIKE THAT. I THINK WE'VE COME OUT EVEN 245 00:15:38,195 --> 00:15:42,399 STRONGER THAN EVER. HOPEFULLY IT CAN DO THAT FOR 246 00:15:42,399 --> 00:15:45,502 OTHER PEOPLE. NO MATTER WHAT CHALLENGES LIFE 247 00:15:45,502 --> 00:15:47,604 PRESENTS YOUR WAY, TO BE OPTIMISTIC, TO BELIEVE THAT YOU 248 00:15:47,604 --> 00:15:49,706 CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN. YOU GOTTA BE RESILIENT AND YOU 249 00:15:49,706 --> 00:15:52,810 GOTTA BE PERSISTENT. 250 00:15:52,810 --> 00:15:55,979 >> COMING UP ‐‐ JOHN LEGEND BRINGS THE SOUL TO 251 00:15:55,979 --> 00:16:00,684 "SOUL OF A NATION." BUT FIRST WE'LL HEAD TO A SMALL 252 00:16:00,684 --> 00:16:03,287 CHICAGO SUBURB WHERE WHEN IT COMES TO RECKONINGS. 253 00:16:03,287 --> 00:16:06,723 ONE COMMUNITY SAYS THEY'VE GOT THE ONE AND ONLY SOLUTION. 254 00:16:06,723 --> 00:16:07,758 >> THE ONLY ANSWER? 255 00:16:07,758 --> 00:16:10,394 >> THE ONLY ANSWER ANY MORE OF THE SAME. ONLY? 256 00:16:10,394 --> 00:16:11,428 THAT'S A BIG WORD, "ONLY"? 257 00:16:11,428 --> 00:16:13,831 >> THAT'S NEXT ON "SOUL OF A NATION." 258 00:16:21,309 --> 00:16:24,702 >> 40 ACRES AND A MULE. A PHRASE PASSED THROUGH MY 259 00:16:24,702 --> 00:16:27,839 GRANDPARENTS AND THEIR GRANDPARENTS. 260 00:16:27,839 --> 00:16:30,441 PROBABLY YOURS AS WELL. THE PROMISE TO FREE BLACK PEOPLE 261 00:16:30,441 --> 00:16:33,077 IN AMERICA WAS THAT AFTER CENTURIES OF BONDAGE THEY WOULD 262 00:16:33,077 --> 00:16:35,680 GET THEIR FAIR SHARE. SINCE THEN THE FIGHT FOR 263 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,750 REPARATIONS HAS CONTINUED ‐‐ AND TO THIS DAY THAT PROMISE REMAINS 264 00:16:38,750 --> 00:16:42,420 UNFULFILLED. BUT THEN THERE'S EVANSTON 265 00:16:42,420 --> 00:16:45,556 ILLINOIS ‐‐ A SMALL COMMUNITY OUTSIDE OF CHICAGO THAT HAS 266 00:16:45,556 --> 00:16:48,159 TAKEN A BOLD AND CONTROVERSIAL STEP. 267 00:16:48,159 --> 00:16:50,261 WILL THE REST OF THE COUNTRY FOLLOW? 268 00:16:50,261 --> 00:16:57,568 NIGHTLINE ANCHOR BYRON PITTS HAS THE STORY. 269 00:16:57,568 --> 00:17:02,273 >> EARLY IN MY ‐‐ CHILDHOOD I WAS INVITED TO HAVE A PLAY DATE 270 00:17:02,273 --> 00:17:06,978 MY WHITE FRIENDS NEVER HAD A PLAYDATE AT MY HOME. 271 00:17:06,978 --> 00:17:08,546 SO I WENT TO MEGHAN'S HOUSE. 272 00:17:08,546 --> 00:17:12,717 >> THE STREETS WERE WIDER. THE HOMES WERE BIGGER AND 273 00:17:12,717 --> 00:17:15,887 BRIGHTER. IT WAS OBVIOUS THAT IT WAS THE 274 00:17:15,887 --> 00:17:19,023 BARRIER OF RACE THAT KEPT US FROM THAT, BECAUSE THE 275 00:17:19,023 --> 00:17:28,967 SEGREGATION WAS RACE BASED. 276 00:17:28,967 --> 00:17:32,070 EVEN HERE, EVANSTON ILLINOIS, A PROUDLY LIBERAL SUBURB OF 277 00:17:32,070 --> 00:17:34,672 CHICAGO, THE BARRIER AND BURDEN OF RACE HAVE LONG WEIGHED HEAVY 278 00:17:34,672 --> 00:17:37,308 AS A WINTER STORM. EVANSTON'S ALDERMAN FOR THE 5TH 279 00:17:37,308 --> 00:17:39,911 WARD, ROBIN RUE SIMMONS, WAS BORN AND RAISED IN THE 280 00:17:39,911 --> 00:17:43,047 HISTORICALLY BLACK NEIGHBORHOOD SHE REPRESENTS. 281 00:17:43,047 --> 00:17:46,184 >> THIS COMMUNITY WAS REDLINED HISTORICALLY. 282 00:17:46,184 --> 00:17:49,320 AND THAT HAS COME ALONG WITH DAMAGES THAT CONTINUE TODAY. 283 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,957 RESOURCES WERE STRIPPED AWAY FROM THE BLACK COMMUNITY. 284 00:17:52,957 --> 00:17:57,628 ALONG WITH WEALTH AS WELL. 285 00:17:57,628 --> 00:18:03,334 >> THE CITY'S PLAN TO CHANGE THAT, REPARATIONS. 286 00:18:03,334 --> 00:18:06,637 AN IDEA LONG DEBATED, PROPOSED OVER 150 YEARS AGO. 287 00:18:06,637 --> 00:18:08,740 FIRST, 40 ACRES OF LAND. LATER, A MULE, FOR 288 00:18:08,740 --> 00:18:11,342 FORMERLY‐ENSLAVED PEOPLE TO SHARE THE AMERICAN DREAM BUILT 289 00:18:11,342 --> 00:18:18,116 ON THEIR BACKS FOR FREE. A PROMISE LONG‐BROKEN. UNTIL NOW. 290 00:18:18,116 --> 00:18:21,786 EVANSTON IS SET TO BECOME THE FIRST U. S. CITY TO PAY OUT 291 00:18:21,786 --> 00:18:24,922 REPARATIONS ‐‐ A TOTAL OF 10 MILLION DOLLARS! 292 00:18:24,922 --> 00:18:28,593 STARTING WITH INCREMENTS OF UP TO 25 THOUSAND DOLLARS PER 293 00:18:28,593 --> 00:18:32,263 PERSON, FOR HOUSING. I DIDN'T START MY ‐‐ ELECTED 294 00:18:32,263 --> 00:18:34,365 CAREER EVEN DISCUSSING REPARATIONS. 295 00:18:34,365 --> 00:18:36,968 >> SO WHAT CHANGED? 296 00:18:36,968 --> 00:18:40,538 >> I WAS LOOKING AT DATA. I WAS LOOKING AT WHAT WE HAD 297 00:18:40,538 --> 00:18:45,777 DONE AND REPARATIONS WAS THE ONLY ANSWER. 298 00:18:45,777 --> 00:18:46,844 >> THE ONLY ANSWER? 299 00:18:46,844 --> 00:18:52,050 >> THE ONLY AN ‐‐ ANY MORE OF THE SAME WAS GONNA ONLY AT BEST 300 00:18:52,050 --> 00:18:55,186 HELP US SUSTAIN THE OPPRESSED STATE AND THE DISPARITY THAT WE 301 00:18:55,186 --> 00:18:56,220 HAVE. 302 00:18:56,220 --> 00:18:59,891 >> ONLY? THAT'S A BIG WORD, "ONLY"? 303 00:18:59,891 --> 00:19:04,062 >> THE ONLY LEGISLATIVE RESPONSE FOR US TO RECONCILE THE DAMAGES 304 00:19:04,062 --> 00:19:05,096 IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY IS 305 00:19:05,096 --> 00:19:14,005 REPARATIONS. 306 00:19:14,005 --> 00:19:17,642 >> WE ANTICIPATE LITIGATION WITH THE PREMISE THAT YOU CANNOT USE 307 00:19:17,642 --> 00:19:20,812 TAX MONEY THAT'S FROM THE PUBLIC TO BENEFIT A PARTICULAR GROUP OF 308 00:19:20,812 --> 00:19:26,017 PEOPLE. BUT THROUGHOUT HISTORY TAXES 309 00:19:26,017 --> 00:19:29,687 WERE USED TO BENEFIT A CERTAIN GROUP OF PEOPLE, WHILE OTHERS 310 00:19:29,687 --> 00:19:31,255 WERE EXCLUDED FROM THAT. 311 00:19:31,255 --> 00:19:34,926 >> DINO ROBINSON IS THE FOUNDER OF SHOREFRONT' AN ARCHIVE 312 00:19:34,926 --> 00:19:37,528 DEDICATED TO CHRONICLING AND CELEBRATING BLACK LIFE IN 313 00:19:37,528 --> 00:19:42,133 EVANSTON. A RICHNESS LONG UNDERVALUED. 314 00:19:42,133 --> 00:19:45,803 HIS DOCUMENTATION ‐‐ STARTING IN THE LATE 1800S ‐‐ INVALUABLE IN 315 00:19:45,803 --> 00:19:47,371 MEASURING THE COSTS OF RACISM 316 00:19:47,371 --> 00:19:54,745 AND THE NEED FOR REPARATIONS. 317 00:19:54,745 --> 00:19:58,516 >> BLACK COMMUNITY MEMBERS WERE MOVING THROUGH EVANSTON AND 318 00:19:58,516 --> 00:19:59,750 FORMING POCKETS IN THE CITY OF EVANSTON. 319 00:19:59,750 --> 00:20:03,054 IT CAUSED THE WHITE COMMUNITY TO START PANICKING LIKE, "WHAT 320 00:20:03,054 --> 00:20:06,257 DO WE DO ABOUT THIS?" 321 00:20:06,257 --> 00:20:10,194 >> THE RESPONSE TO THAT PANIC, RED LINING. 322 00:20:10,194 --> 00:20:14,132 ASSIGNING MARKET VALUE TO NEIGHBORHOODS, A GRADING SYSTEM, 323 00:20:14,132 --> 00:20:15,833 "A" TO "D." 324 00:20:15,833 --> 00:20:18,970 >> THE D' AREAS WERE USUALLY RELEGATED TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY. 325 00:20:18,970 --> 00:20:21,572 'D' WAS ALWAYS IN RED. THIS DELIBERATELY PUSHED 326 00:20:21,572 --> 00:20:24,175 EVANSTON'S BLACK FAMILIES INTO AN AREA THAT BECAME THE 5TH 327 00:20:24,175 --> 00:20:27,311 WARD, SEGREGATING THEM FROM WHITE FAMILIES, SOUGHT AFTER 328 00:20:27,311 --> 00:20:29,914 PROPERTY, AND ULTIMATELY, WEALTH. 329 00:20:29,914 --> 00:20:33,084 >> BANKS IN EVANSTON WOULD NOT LOAN TO BLACK FAMILIES REAL 330 00:20:33,084 --> 00:20:35,153 ESTATE AGENCIES WOULD NOT SHOW YOU ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE 5TH 331 00:20:35,153 --> 00:20:36,721 WARD. 332 00:20:36,721 --> 00:20:39,790 >> THAT MAP STILL IS THE MAP OF OUR CONCENTRATED BLACK 333 00:20:39,790 --> 00:20:46,063 COMMUNITY, OUR DISINVESTMENT. 334 00:20:46,063 --> 00:20:50,301 >> TODAY WHITE RESIDENTS OF EVANSTON HAVE NEARLY DOUBLE THE 335 00:20:50,301 --> 00:20:56,107 INCOME AND HOME VALUE AS BLACK RESIDENTS. 336 00:20:56,107 --> 00:20:59,310 BLACK AMERICANS POSSESS LESS THAN 15% OF THE WEALTH THAT WHITE 337 00:20:59,310 --> 00:21:01,946 AMERICANS HAVE. 338 00:21:01,946 --> 00:21:07,151 >> I AM 98 YEARS OLD. 339 00:21:07,151 --> 00:21:12,924 >> WE MOVED TO EVANSTON IN 1959. BLACK RESIDENTS WHO LIVED 340 00:21:12,924 --> 00:21:14,458 THROUGH REDLINING ‐‐ AND THEIR DESCENDANTS ARE ELIGIBLE FOR 341 00:21:14,458 --> 00:21:18,129 REPARATIONS. THAT INCLUDES BENJAMIN GAINES 342 00:21:18,129 --> 00:21:22,833 SR. AND HIS SON, BEN JUNIOR. BEN SENIOR GREW UP IN 1920S 343 00:21:22,833 --> 00:21:26,504 DIXON, KENTUCKY PART OF THE OLD SOUTH. 344 00:21:26,504 --> 00:21:29,607 THE BUSINESS END OF AN ERA'S MOST VIOLENT WEAPON AGAINST 345 00:21:29,607 --> 00:21:35,379 AFRICAN AMERICANS ‐‐ JIM CROW. HE LANDED IN EVANSTON. 346 00:21:35,379 --> 00:21:39,483 HERE JIM CROW WORE A SMILE. BUT STILL INFLICTED HARM ON 347 00:21:39,483 --> 00:21:44,722 BLACK HOMEBUYERS. HE SAID, "YOU FIND A LOT 348 00:21:44,722 --> 00:21:48,359 ANYWHERE IN EVANSTON, AND I'LL BUILD WHATEVER YOU WANT." 349 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,529 WELL, WHEN HE SAID THAT, HE MEANT IN‐‐ "IN THE BLACK 350 00:21:51,529 --> 00:21:53,064 NEIGHBORHOODS." 351 00:21:53,064 --> 00:21:56,734 >> AND WE STILL HAVE THESE SAME TYPES OF PROBLEMS. 352 00:21:56,734 --> 00:22:02,540 >> UNCLE BEN IS A REALIST. HE CALLS IT LIKE HE SEES IT. 353 00:22:02,540 --> 00:22:04,609 YOUNGER MEMBERS OF BEN SR.'S FAMILY ‐‐ HIS GRAND‐NEPHEW JARED 354 00:22:04,609 --> 00:22:07,245 AND HIS CHILDREN, NIC AND MYAH ‐‐ KNOW A MORE PROGRESSIVE 355 00:22:07,245 --> 00:22:08,279 ERA. 356 00:22:08,279 --> 00:22:11,916 >> GROWIN' UP IN EVANSTON FOR ME WAS DEFINITELY GOOD, DESPITE THE 357 00:22:11,916 --> 00:22:13,517 RACISM THAT I FACED. 358 00:22:13,517 --> 00:22:15,052 >> WILL YOU APPLY ‐‐ FOR THE REPARATIONS? 359 00:22:15,052 --> 00:22:16,621 >> I WILL, YEAH. 360 00:22:16,621 --> 00:22:17,655 >> AND WHY? 361 00:22:17,655 --> 00:22:22,360 >> BECAUSE IT'S OWED. WEALTHY AFRICAN AMERICANS" ARE 362 00:22:22,360 --> 00:22:27,064 NOT THE EQUIVALENT OF "WEALTHY WHITE AMERICANS" IN THIS COUNTRY. 363 00:22:27,064 --> 00:22:32,837 >> A NATIONAL REPARATIONS POLICY IS THE MORAL DEMOCRATIC AND 364 00:22:32,837 --> 00:22:36,474 ECONOMIC IMPERATIVE HOUSE RESOLUTION 40 IS THE LATEST 365 00:22:36,474 --> 00:22:39,043 NATIONAL STEP TOWARDS REPARATIONS. 366 00:22:39,043 --> 00:22:42,713 SUPPORTERS HAVE INCLUDED TA‐NEHISI COATES AND ACTOR DANNY 367 00:22:42,713 --> 00:22:48,219 GLOVER. 368 00:22:48,219 --> 00:22:52,223 >> HR 40 WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A COMMISSION TO STUDY 369 00:22:52,223 --> 00:22:55,326 REPARATIONS BUT ALSO THE FURTHER CONTEXT IN WHICH WE LOOK AT 370 00:22:55,326 --> 00:22:56,927 SLAVERY AND THE IMPACT IT HAD ON US. 371 00:22:56,927 --> 00:23:00,364 >> SO YOU THINK EVANSTON CAN BE AN EXAMPLE FOR THE NATION? 372 00:23:00,364 --> 00:23:04,468 >> I THINK IT CAN. EVANSTON, ILLINOIS DID 373 00:23:04,468 --> 00:23:07,071 SOMETHING THAT‐‐ THAT NO OTHER CITY HAS DONE. 374 00:23:07,071 --> 00:23:08,639 >> IF WE'RE ABLE TO USE THAT AS A PLATFORM, MAYBE OTHER CITIES 375 00:23:08,639 --> 00:23:10,741 MIGHT ADOPT THE WHOLE IDEA OF THIS. 376 00:23:10,741 --> 00:23:13,344 AND OTHER CITIES COULD TAKE UP EVANSTON'S SWEETLY IRONIC 377 00:23:13,344 --> 00:23:17,515 FUNDING SOLUTION A 3% TAX ON NEWLY LEGAL MARIJUANA SALES. 378 00:23:17,515 --> 00:23:21,719 >> IT'S THE MOST APPROPRIATE USE FOR THAT SALES TAX. 379 00:23:21,719 --> 00:23:23,821 AND IN OUR CITY, 70% OF THE MARIJUANA ARRESTS WERE IN THE 380 00:23:23,821 --> 00:23:28,526 BLACK COMMUNITY. AND WE ARE 16% OF THE COMMUNITY. 381 00:23:28,526 --> 00:23:31,629 ALL STUDIES SHOW THAT BLACKS AND WHITE CONSUME CANNABIS AT THE 382 00:23:31,629 --> 00:23:34,765 SAME RATE. THERE'S BEEN DEBATE OVER WHETHER 383 00:23:34,765 --> 00:23:37,835 THOSE TAXES CAN SUSTAIN THE FUND, LONG‐ TERM. 384 00:23:37,835 --> 00:23:41,505 AND EVEN THOSE WHO PROUDLY SUPPORT REPARATIONS WONDER ALOUD 385 00:23:41,505 --> 00:23:45,676 IS 25‐ THOUSAND DOLLARS TOO LITTLE TOO LATE? 386 00:23:45,676 --> 00:23:51,949 >> IT'S A DROP IN THE BUCKET. YOU HAVE DENIED ME ALL MY 387 00:23:51,949 --> 00:23:57,188 98 YEARS. 388 00:23:57,188 --> 00:24:01,359 >> HOPEFULLY, BEFORE I DIE, I'LL SEE THE WORLD CHANGE. 389 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:05,029 UNCLE BEN, HE'S 98. SO WE‐‐ I‐‐ WE CAN UNDERSTAND 390 00:24:05,029 --> 00:24:07,098 HIS SKEPTICISM. WHERE DOES YOUR SKEPTICISM COME 391 00:24:07,098 --> 00:24:08,165 FROM? 392 00:24:08,165 --> 00:24:13,037 >> IT'S LESS, LIKE, SKEPTICISM AND MORE EDUCATION. 393 00:24:13,037 --> 00:24:15,139 PEOPLE WHO WERE ACTING LIKE THEY'RE READY FOR CHANGE, AND 394 00:24:15,139 --> 00:24:17,241 BEHIND CLOSED DOORS OTHER THINGS ARE HAPPENING, RIGHT? AND WE SEE 395 00:24:17,241 --> 00:24:18,275 THAT ALL THE TIME IN POLITICS. 396 00:24:18,275 --> 00:24:20,344 >> WHAT DOES IT SAY THAT MY 25‐YEAR‐OLD HAS TO FEEL LIKE 397 00:24:20,344 --> 00:24:21,412 THAT? 398 00:24:21,412 --> 00:24:22,980 >> YOU DON'T LEARN ABOUT THESE ISSUES AT YOUR HIGH SCHOOL ‐‐ 399 00:24:22,980 --> 00:24:25,583 >> WE AREN'T REALLY TAUGHT ABOUT BLACK HISTORY OUTSIDE OF SLAVES 400 00:24:25,583 --> 00:24:26,617 CAME FROM AFRICA. 401 00:24:26,617 --> 00:24:28,719 >> SO I THINK PART OF REPARATIONS, IT CAN'T JUST BE 402 00:24:28,719 --> 00:24:31,322 MONEY. LIKE, YOU HAVE TO TEACH US WHAT 403 00:24:31,322 --> 00:24:33,424 WE NEED TO KNOW. 404 00:24:33,424 --> 00:24:36,026 >> ONE COULD ARGUE IT'S POTENTIALLY MORE SYMBOLIC THAN 405 00:24:36,026 --> 00:24:37,061 IT IS SUBSTANTIVE. 406 00:24:37,061 --> 00:24:40,664 >> I DISAGREE THAT IT'S SYMBOLIC AT ALL. 407 00:24:40,664 --> 00:24:44,335 I UNDERSTAND THAT $25,000 IS LIFE SAVING FOR SOME FAMILIES. 408 00:24:44,335 --> 00:24:46,437 >> BUT RELATIVE TO THE INJURY, IT'S NOT NEARLY ENOUGH. 409 00:24:46,437 --> 00:24:48,506 AND I GET THAT. 410 00:24:48,506 --> 00:24:55,212 >> THIS NOTION OF REPARATIONS IN EVANSTON 411 00:24:55,212 --> 00:24:56,781 ISN'T MEANT TO BE A DROP IN THE BUCKET, BUT THE BEGINNING OF A 412 00:24:56,781 --> 00:24:59,383 STREAM THAT BECOMES A RIVER, THAT BECOMES AN OCEAN. 413 00:24:59,383 --> 00:25:00,951 >> ABSOLUTELY. THERE IS A LIFETIME OF WORK 414 00:25:00,951 --> 00:25:02,520 AHEAD FOR US TO GET TO, JUSTICE. 415 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,122 >> FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK IN THIS SPACE, WHAT WORRIES YOU STILL? 416 00:25:05,122 --> 00:25:10,327 >> NOT ENOUGH RESOURCE. NOT QUICK ENOUGH. 417 00:25:10,327 --> 00:25:15,032 I DO BELIEVE THAT WE'RE COMMITTED AS A CITY. 418 00:25:15,032 --> 00:25:19,236 AND I CAN'T WAIT TO CELEBRATE THE FAMILY THAT RECEIVES THEIR 419 00:25:19,236 --> 00:25:22,373 FIRST REPARATION‐‐ BENEFIT. I CANNOT WAIT FOR THAT DAY. 420 00:25:22,373 --> 00:25:25,509 >> WHEN WE COME BACK ‐‐ IT'S TIME TO GET REAL. 421 00:25:25,509 --> 00:25:29,680 >> WHY DO YOU SAY BLACK PATRIOTISM IS THE DEEPEST FORM 422 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,782 OF PATRIOTISM? LIKE ‐‐ REALLY REAL. 423 00:25:31,782 --> 00:25:34,919 STICK AROUND. SUNNY HOSTIN'S TAKING US "IN THE 424 00:25:34,919 --> 00:25:40,624 KITCHEN." 425 00:25:48,894 --> 00:25:51,168 >> WELL, WELCOME TO THE KITCHEN TABLE. 426 00:25:51,168 --> 00:25:52,203 >> HAPPY TO BE HERE. 427 00:25:52,203 --> 00:25:53,270 >> YES. 428 00:25:53,270 --> 00:25:59,810 >> WHERE IS THE FOOD? 429 00:25:59,810 --> 00:26:02,984 >> I KNOW. AND THE WINE. 430 00:26:02,984 --> 00:26:05,311 >> A SPARSE KITCHEN. 431 00:26:05,311 --> 00:26:08,685 >> BUT YOU READY, ALRIGHT. 432 00:26:08,685 --> 00:26:12,323 >> SO LET'S JUMP IN. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT PATRIOTISM. 433 00:26:12,323 --> 00:26:15,993 EARLIER IN OUR SHOW WE HEARD FROM CAPITOL POLICE, OFFICER 434 00:26:15,993 --> 00:26:18,596 HARRY DUNN ABOUT HIS HEROIC EFFORT TO PROTECT THE CAPITOL 435 00:26:18,596 --> 00:26:20,698 AND AMERICAN DEMOCRACY. 436 00:26:20,698 --> 00:26:23,300 >> THOSE TERRORIST ON THE 6TH, THEY SAID THAT THEY WERE 437 00:26:23,300 --> 00:26:26,470 PATRIOTS. SO I DON'T WANT TO USE, I WONT 438 00:26:26,470 --> 00:26:32,710 USE THE WORD PATRIOT. MAN I GOT CALLED A [ BLEEP ]. 439 00:26:32,710 --> 00:26:36,914 A COUPLE DOZEN TIMES TODAY 440 00:26:36,914 --> 00:26:41,085 PROTECTING THIS BUILDING. 441 00:26:41,085 --> 00:26:45,256 IS THIS AMERICA? 442 00:26:45,256 --> 00:26:48,859 >> SO OFFICER DUNN PUT HIS LIFE ON THE LINE, DEFENDING OUR 443 00:26:48,859 --> 00:26:51,462 CAPITAL AGAINST OTHER AMERICANS, STORMING IT WHILE CALLING 444 00:26:51,462 --> 00:26:57,234 THEMSELVES PATRIOTS. I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE 445 00:26:57,234 --> 00:27:00,337 CHALLENGES OF BEING A BLACK PATRIOT. 446 00:27:00,337 --> 00:27:04,008 AND I WAS LOOKING AT YOU ANGELA. HOW DID YOU FEEL WATCHING THAT? 447 00:27:04,008 --> 00:27:07,645 >> WELL, AS A FORMER CAPITOL HILL STAFFER THAT ON THAT DAY, 448 00:27:07,645 --> 00:27:11,315 AS YOU KNOW, I'M SCRAMBLING, LOOKING FOR MY FRIENDS, CALLING 449 00:27:11,315 --> 00:27:15,519 MEMBERS OF CONGRESS IN TEARS, TRYING TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE 450 00:27:15,519 --> 00:27:20,190 ALL SAFE, KNOWING THAT OFFICERS LIKE OFFICER DUNN ARE THE ONES 451 00:27:20,190 --> 00:27:26,997 THAT HOLD US DOWN. AND SO WHAT IS HARD FOR ME TO, 452 00:27:26,997 --> 00:27:29,600 TO SEE IS THE FACT THAT PEOPLE ARE SURPRISED BY THIS AMERICA 453 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,168 MORE THAN ANYTHING. 454 00:27:31,168 --> 00:27:38,309 >> AND IT BREAKS OUR HEART. RIGHT? MY FATHER WAS IN THE ARMY. 455 00:27:38,309 --> 00:27:40,911 I HAVE AN UNCLE IN THE ARMY AND THE, IN THE MARINE CORPS. 456 00:27:40,911 --> 00:27:42,479 >> WE'VE FOUGHT FOR THE FREEDOMS THAT THIS COUNTRY SAYS ARE 457 00:27:42,479 --> 00:27:44,048 AVAILABLE TO US ALL, TO COME 458 00:27:44,048 --> 00:27:52,056 BACK TO THIS COUNTRY AND BE 459 00:27:52,056 --> 00:27:55,859 WE'RE THE DEEPEST OF THE PATRIOTS AND YET WE GET TREATED 460 00:27:55,859 --> 00:27:56,894 LIKE CONSTANT OUTSIDERS. 461 00:27:56,894 --> 00:27:59,496 >> WHY DO YOU SAY A BLACK PATRIOT IS THE DEEPEST OF 462 00:27:59,496 --> 00:28:00,064 PATRIOTS? 463 00:28:00,064 --> 00:28:02,132 >> WE WERE THE UNFREE PEOPLE IN THE LAND OF THE FREE. 464 00:28:02,132 --> 00:28:04,234 YOU CAN'T GET MORE AMERICAN THAN BEING OWNED BY AMERICA. 465 00:28:04,234 --> 00:28:08,405 WE HAVE REMINDED AMERICA OF THE PROMISE THAT IT'S MADE AND ITS 466 00:28:08,405 --> 00:28:11,041 UNWILLINGNESS OR INABILITY TO CONSISTENTLY LIVE UP TO THAT 467 00:28:11,041 --> 00:28:11,542 PROMISE. 468 00:28:11,542 --> 00:28:14,678 >> THE THING THAT I THINK IS REMARKABLE ABOUT WHAT YOU WERE 469 00:28:14,678 --> 00:28:17,281 JUST SAYING IS FROM CRISPUS ATTUCKS TO OFFICER DUNN. 470 00:28:17,281 --> 00:28:18,315 >> COME ON. 471 00:28:18,315 --> 00:28:21,485 >> RIGHT? WE HAVE BEEN FIGHTING FOR 472 00:28:21,485 --> 00:28:24,088 FREEDOM THAT THEY HAVE YET TO SAY THE PROMISE DID NOT APPLY TO 473 00:28:24,088 --> 00:28:29,326 YOU. THAT'S THE REAL ISSUE. SO WE'RE FIGHTING FOR A PROMISE 474 00:28:29,326 --> 00:28:31,362 THAT WAS NEVER GIVEN TO US, WE JUST TRIED TO GO BACK AND CLAIM 475 00:28:31,362 --> 00:28:33,497 THAT THING. 476 00:28:33,497 --> 00:28:35,599 >> AND IT'S HAPPENED FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. IT'S NOT A SHOCK. 477 00:28:35,599 --> 00:28:38,702 IT IS SAD. IT NEVER STOPS BEING SAD. 478 00:28:38,702 --> 00:28:46,677 BUT WHAT KEEPS ME GOING IS THE PROMISE. 479 00:28:46,677 --> 00:28:48,545 IT'S NOT THE PRACTICE OF THE COUNTRY. 480 00:28:48,545 --> 00:28:50,814 IT'S WHAT THE COUNTRY HAS PROMISED US. AND WE WANT IT. 481 00:28:50,814 --> 00:28:53,083 LIKE, IT'S TIME. 482 00:28:53,083 --> 00:28:56,754 >> WHAT WAS THE MOMENT THAT YOU REALIZED THAT YOU'RE BLACK? 483 00:28:56,754 --> 00:29:03,527 I WILL SHARE WITH YOU MY MOMENT WHEN I WAS ABOUT 12, I WAS ASKED 484 00:29:03,527 --> 00:29:10,067 TO THIS JUNIOR PROM BY THIS WHITE KID, EDDIE [ BLEEP ]. 485 00:29:10,067 --> 00:29:14,772 AND I WAS VERY EXCITED. HI EDDIE. 486 00:29:14,772 --> 00:29:18,942 I WAS ASKED AND I WAS SO EXCITED AND HE CAME BACK TO ME MAYBE TWO 487 00:29:18,942 --> 00:29:26,750 DAYS LATER AND HE SAID HE COULD NOT TAKE ME BECAUSE BLACK CATS 488 00:29:26,750 --> 00:29:31,889 DON'T SCREW BIRDS. AND THAT IS WHAT HIS MOTHER TOLD 489 00:29:31,889 --> 00:29:36,293 HIM. AND I WAS, I FEEL THE HURT TODAY. 490 00:29:36,293 --> 00:29:41,832 >> I AM HURT. AND I ALSO DON'T EXACTLY 491 00:29:41,832 --> 00:29:47,204 UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS. 492 00:29:47,204 --> 00:29:51,975 >> I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND. BUT I HEARD "BLACK." 493 00:29:51,975 --> 00:29:53,010 AND THAT WAS MY MOMENT. 494 00:29:53,010 --> 00:29:56,680 >> SO I'M GOING TO PIGGYBACK BECAUSE I HAVE A SIMILAR STORY. 495 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,782 AND I'M NOT GOING TO NAME, DROP HIM BECAUSE ST. LOUIS IS A SMALL 496 00:29:58,782 --> 00:30:00,851 TOWN. SO BECKY, I ASKED HER TO WITH 497 00:30:00,851 --> 00:30:02,953 THE EIGHTH GRADE MIXER, SHE SAID, YES, SHE CALLED ME LATER 498 00:30:02,953 --> 00:30:04,521 AND SAID, "HEY, KELBY." CAUSE I WENT BY MY MIDDLE NAME. 499 00:30:04,521 --> 00:30:06,590 "HOW ARE YOU DOING? " I'M LIKE, "I'M GREAT." 500 00:30:06,590 --> 00:30:08,692 SHE SAID, "LISTEN, I TALKED TO MY PARENTS ABOUT GOING OUT WITH 501 00:30:08,692 --> 00:30:11,295 YOU. AND THEY SAID, THEY'RE NOT RACIST." 502 00:30:11,295 --> 00:30:13,397 AND I WAS LIKE, OKAY, THAT'S THE RIGHT. 503 00:30:13,397 --> 00:30:15,499 THAT'S THE RIGHT HEAD TOP. "BUT WHEN IT COMES TO DATING, 504 00:30:15,499 --> 00:30:17,568 THEY JUST DON'T FEEL AS IF THE RACES SHOULD MIX." 505 00:30:17,568 --> 00:30:19,670 AND I'M LIKE, COOL, TOTALLY GET IT. 506 00:30:19,670 --> 00:30:23,874 UNDERSTAND TEFLON, DON, BECAUSE I FELT LIKE UNLIKE IF I ALLOWED 507 00:30:23,874 --> 00:30:25,409 MYSELF TO FEEL TOO MUCH, I DIDN'T THINK I COULD AFFORD TO 508 00:30:25,409 --> 00:30:28,545 BE HURT RIGHT NOW. I GOT TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD. 509 00:30:28,545 --> 00:30:33,650 NOW BECKY KNOWS WHO BECKY IS, AND THIS IS IMPORTANT TO ME. 510 00:30:33,650 --> 00:30:37,087 >> BYE, BECKY. 511 00:30:37,087 --> 00:30:39,356 >> CAN WE CALL YOU KELBY NOW? 512 00:30:39,356 --> 00:30:41,425 >> I LIKE THAT, FANCY. 513 00:30:41,425 --> 00:30:47,097 >> MINE IS POSITIVE, I WAS RAISED BY AN ACTIVIST FATHER. 514 00:30:47,097 --> 00:30:51,301 EDUCATOR. AND SO IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO 515 00:30:51,301 --> 00:30:53,904 THEM THAT I KNEW ABOUT AND APPRECIATED AND LOVED ON MY 516 00:30:53,904 --> 00:31:00,077 BLACKNESS. SO WE HAD BLACK ART ON THE WALLS, BLACK 517 00:31:00,077 --> 00:31:01,678 BOOKS, BLACK DOLLS. I ALWAYS KNEW I WAS BLACK. 518 00:31:01,678 --> 00:31:02,713 I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ELSE. 519 00:31:02,713 --> 00:31:06,350 >> I WENT CAMPING. ME AND A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE, 520 00:31:06,350 --> 00:31:08,452 TWO LITTLE BLACK BOYS. SO, WE'RE AT THE LAKE AND 521 00:31:08,452 --> 00:31:10,554 THERE'S A LITTLE WHITE BOY ON THE SHORE. 522 00:31:10,554 --> 00:31:14,191 MY FRIEND AND I ARE IN THE WATER AND THE LITTLE WHITE WAS BOY 523 00:31:14,191 --> 00:31:19,429 YELLING AND POINTING, "THERE'S N‐WORD IN THE WATER! THERE'S 524 00:31:19,429 --> 00:31:24,635 N‐WORDS IN THE WATER!." AND MY FRIEND AND I LOOK OVER 525 00:31:24,635 --> 00:31:28,305 OUR SHOULDER LIKE, "WHERE? WHAT IS HE TALKING ABOUT?" 526 00:31:28,305 --> 00:31:30,908 BECAUSE HE SAID IT WAS SUCH ALARM. 527 00:31:30,908 --> 00:31:35,078 LIKE IT WAS A SHARK, LIKE WE WERE IN DANGER OR SOMETHING. 528 00:31:35,078 --> 00:31:37,181 BECAUSE I GUESS HE FELT IN DANGER AND WE WERE THAT DANGER. 529 00:31:37,181 --> 00:31:41,919 >> LET'S KEEP THE CONVERSATION GOING. 530 00:31:41,919 --> 00:31:44,521 USE THE HASHTAG #SOULOFANATION TO VOICE YOUR OPINIONS ON THE 531 00:31:44,521 --> 00:31:49,159 ISSUES WE DISCUSSED HERE TODAY. BACK IN THE KITCHEN NEXT WEEK. 532 00:31:49,159 --> 00:31:55,833 AND EVERY WEEK HERE ON SOUL OF A NATION. 533 00:31:55,833 --> 00:31:58,168 >>> COMING UP. THE UNDEFEATED LOOKS AT 534 00:31:58,168 --> 00:31:59,736 RECKONINGS IN CINEMA. SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO SHOW UP, 535 00:31:59,736 --> 00:32:01,805 AND SOME OF THEIR TAKES, JUST MIGHT SURPRISE YOU. 536 00:32:01,805 --> 00:32:03,373 >> LIKE, ARE WE ALLOWED TO, LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE, BE LIKE 537 00:32:03,373 --> 00:32:04,408 THIS ON CAMERA STILL? 538 00:32:04,408 --> 00:32:07,477 >> WHEN SOUL OF A NATION RETURNS. 539 00:32:14,216 --> 00:32:16,504 >>> IF THERE'S ONE THING I'VE LEARNED IN MY CAREER AS AN 540 00:32:16,504 --> 00:32:19,140 ACTOR, IT'S THAT MOVIES CAN DEFINE MOMENTS. 541 00:32:19,140 --> 00:32:21,743 SO WHAT DO RECKONINGS LOOK LIKE IN FILM? 542 00:32:21,743 --> 00:32:25,380 FOR THE PAST FEW WEEKS, OUR PARTNERS AT THE UNDEFEATED, WITH 543 00:32:25,380 --> 00:32:27,982 THE HELP OF SOME FAMILIAR FACES, HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING BLACK 544 00:32:27,982 --> 00:32:31,119 CULTURE. ON SCREEN FROM IT'S CURRENT 545 00:32:31,119 --> 00:32:34,255 FORM, ALL THE WAY BACK TO ITS INFANCY. 546 00:32:34,255 --> 00:32:38,426 >> "BIRTH OF A NATION" IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST PAINFUL 547 00:32:38,426 --> 00:32:44,699 AND PROBLEMATIC FILMS THAT HAS EVER BEEN MADE. 548 00:32:44,699 --> 00:32:48,369 >> WELL IT'S REALLY LIKE A KU KLUX KLAN PROPAGANDA FILM. 549 00:32:48,369 --> 00:32:50,972 >> A LOT OF BLACKFACE, WHITE PERFORMERS PRETENDING TO BE 550 00:32:50,972 --> 00:32:52,040 BLACK PEOPLE. 551 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:57,779 >> THE WHITE WOMAN SORT OF JUMPS OFF THE CLIFF RATHER THAN BEING 552 00:32:57,779 --> 00:33:05,553 ASSAULTED BY THIS SORT OF SUB‐HUMAN LOOKING BLACK MAN. 553 00:33:05,553 --> 00:33:11,292 >> "GONE WITH THE WIND" IS THE 2.0 VERSION OF EVERYTHING THAT 554 00:33:11,292 --> 00:33:13,394 WE SAW IN "BIRTH OF A NATION." 555 00:33:13,394 --> 00:33:16,531 >> LORD HAVE MERCY THERE THEY GO AGAIN. 556 00:33:16,531 --> 00:33:18,633 >> "GONE IN THE WIND" WAS ‐‐ WAS TOLD FROM THE PERCEPTION OF THE 557 00:33:18,633 --> 00:33:19,667 SLAVE OWNER. 558 00:33:19,667 --> 00:33:21,236 >> YOU DON'T LIKE ME, MAMMY? 559 00:33:21,236 --> 00:33:22,804 >> HRMPH! 560 00:33:22,804 --> 00:33:28,643 >> BLACK PEOPLE WERE PORTRAYED AS ALMOST CHILDLIKE. 561 00:33:28,643 --> 00:33:31,980 >> I DON'T KNOW NOTHING BUT BIRTHING BABIES! 562 00:33:31,980 --> 00:33:36,484 >> THEY ENJOYED TAKING CARE OF THEIR WHITE MASTERS. 563 00:33:36,484 --> 00:33:39,754 >> MAMMY. IT'S NOT A NAME, IT'S A 564 00:33:39,754 --> 00:33:40,788 DESCRIPTION. 565 00:33:40,788 --> 00:33:42,357 >> "FRANKLY, MY DEAR, SCARLETT, I DON'T GIVE A DAMN," YOU KNOW. 566 00:33:42,357 --> 00:33:44,459 BUT FRANKLY, Y'ALL, WE DON'T GIVE A DAMN! 567 00:33:44,459 --> 00:33:46,527 YOU KNOW, WHY I'M ‐‐ I'M NOT REALLY GONNA BE CRYIN' OVER A 568 00:33:46,527 --> 00:33:49,163 BUILDING THAT GETS BURNT DOWN AFTER RAPIN' US FOR LIKE, 569 00:33:49,163 --> 00:33:50,765 400 YEARS. 570 00:33:50,765 --> 00:33:54,402 >> I SAID IT BEFORE, I SAYS IT NOW AND I SAYS IT AGAIN. 571 00:33:54,402 --> 00:33:59,574 >> THE MAGICAL BLACK MAN, WHICH IS ALSO PART OF THESE NEGATIVE 572 00:33:59,574 --> 00:34:02,677 STEREOTYPES THAT HOLLYWOOD HAS DONE FOR DECADES. 573 00:34:02,677 --> 00:34:05,813 AND WHAT REALLY WAS CRYSTALLIZED IN SONG OF THE SOUTH. 574 00:34:05,813 --> 00:34:08,416 ♪ ZIP AH DEE DO DAH 575 00:34:08,416 --> 00:34:15,223 ZIPPITY AY WONDERFUL FEELING WONDERFUL DAY ♪ 576 00:34:15,223 --> 00:34:18,359 >> I THINK SOME PEOPLE STILL HAVE FOND CHILDHOOD MEMORIES OF 577 00:34:18,359 --> 00:34:19,394 "SONG OF THE SOUTH." 578 00:34:19,394 --> 00:34:23,064 >> IT'S JUST ABOUT A JOLLY, HAPPY BLACK MAN TELLING STORIES 579 00:34:23,064 --> 00:34:26,734 TO THESE WONDERFUL WHITE CHILDREN. 580 00:34:26,734 --> 00:34:30,371 >> AND IF YOU'LL 'SCUSE ME FOR SAYIN SO! 581 00:34:30,371 --> 00:34:34,575 >> YOU KNOW, LIKE A BIPOC SANTA CLAUS. 582 00:34:34,575 --> 00:34:37,745 >> DISNEY HAS LOCKED IT IN THE VAULT. THEY WERE LIKE, "WE'RE NOT 583 00:34:37,745 --> 00:34:39,280 LETTING THAT OUT." 584 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,883 >> THESE FILMS ARE ESSENTIALLY CONFEDERATE MONUMENTS. 585 00:34:41,883 --> 00:34:44,485 >> I DON'T THINK WE NEED 'EM. I DON'T THINK THEY NEED TO BE ON 586 00:34:44,485 --> 00:34:46,054 STREAMING PLATFORMS. 587 00:34:46,054 --> 00:34:50,258 >> I'M DEFINITELY ANTI THROWING THESE MOVIES IN THE VAULT AND I 588 00:34:50,258 --> 00:34:53,394 THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO KNOW OUR HISTORY. 589 00:34:53,394 --> 00:34:56,531 >> WHATEVER. THEN PUT IT IN ‐‐ THE ARCHIVES. 590 00:34:56,531 --> 00:34:59,600 BUT PUTTING IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY FACE, LIKE, STOP IT. 591 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,169 WE ALL KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING. 592 00:35:01,169 --> 00:35:04,272 >> I DON'T BELIEVE IN NECESSARILY HIDING THINGS THAT 593 00:35:04,272 --> 00:35:08,476 ARE PAINFUL OR WRONG. ALL I'M ASKING ‐‐ PUT SOME 594 00:35:08,476 --> 00:35:10,044 CONTEXT TO IT. 595 00:35:10,044 --> 00:35:13,715 >> I MEAN AM I BEING UNREASONABLE? 596 00:35:13,715 --> 00:35:16,317 >> NO, NO NOT UNREASONABLE AT ALL. 597 00:35:16,317 --> 00:35:19,987 >> AND THE OTHER HALF OF THE FORMULA IS ALSO ALLOWING MORE 598 00:35:19,987 --> 00:35:22,590 BLACK FILMMAKERS AND MORE SCREENWRITERS TO TELL THEIR 599 00:35:22,590 --> 00:35:24,125 STORIES. 600 00:35:24,125 --> 00:35:26,227 >> IT'S IMPORTANT YOU'VE GOT TO DECIDE FOR YOURSELF WHO YOU 601 00:35:26,227 --> 00:35:28,863 GONNA BE. CAN'T NOBODY MAKE THAT DECISION 602 00:35:28,863 --> 00:35:30,431 FOR YOU. 603 00:35:30,431 --> 00:35:33,568 >> "BLACK PANTHER" WAS A DEFINITE EXAMPLE OF THAT. 604 00:35:33,568 --> 00:35:40,308 MOSTLY BLACK CAST WITH A BLACK DIRECTOR, BLACK SCREENWRITER. 605 00:35:40,308 --> 00:35:41,876 AND THEY HIT THE BILLION DOLLAR MARK. 606 00:35:41,876 --> 00:35:45,012 >> IF YOU THINK ABOUT RYAN COOGLER FROM "FRUITVALE 607 00:35:45,012 --> 00:35:49,217 STATION" TO CREED TO "BLACK PANTHER", HERE YOU GOT A 608 00:35:49,217 --> 00:35:51,319 REAL BLACK DUDE FROM THE BAY, AND HE'S LIKE NOW I'M MAKIN 609 00:35:51,319 --> 00:35:56,023 FILMS. 610 00:35:56,023 --> 00:35:58,626 >> PEOPLE LIKE AVA DUVERNAY WHO'S PROVED TO BE A LIGHTNING 611 00:35:58,626 --> 00:35:59,594 ROD. 612 00:35:59,594 --> 00:36:02,764 >> WE CAN DO THIS. 613 00:36:02,764 --> 00:36:09,003 >> YOU HAVE THESE BLACK PRODUCERS LIKE WILL PACKER. 614 00:36:09,003 --> 00:36:11,105 YOU HAVE THE ISSA RAE'S WHO GET TO BE THE LEADING LADY. 615 00:36:11,105 --> 00:36:15,276 >> THIS IS SOME HANDMAID'S TALE 616 00:36:15,276 --> 00:36:17,378 >> YOU CAN HAVE A MOVIE LIKE "GIRLS TRIP" WHERE YOU'RE SEEING 617 00:36:17,378 --> 00:36:18,946 BLACK WOMEN DO THE KIND OF STONER COMEDY ANTICS THAT ARE 618 00:36:18,946 --> 00:36:21,015 USUALLY ONLY RESERVED FOR WHITE MEN. 619 00:36:21,015 --> 00:36:24,185 >> LISTEN, I JUST WATCHED MY BEST FRIEND GRIND ON DIDDY. 620 00:36:24,185 --> 00:36:25,720 WHAT CAN POSSIBLY TOP THAT? 621 00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:27,288 >> I REMEMBER WATCHING THAT, LIKE, CLUTCHING MY PEARLS. 622 00:36:27,288 --> 00:36:29,390 LIKE, ARE WE ALLOWED TO, LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE, BE LIKE THIS ON 623 00:36:29,390 --> 00:36:33,060 CAMERA STILL? 624 00:36:33,060 --> 00:36:36,731 >> NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. 625 00:36:36,731 --> 00:36:39,867 >> "GET OUT" WAS SUCH A HUGE CULTURAL MOMENT. 626 00:36:39,867 --> 00:36:43,504 >> IT MIXED COMEDY AND HORROR IN A WAY THAT WE HAVEN'T REALLY 627 00:36:43,504 --> 00:36:47,175 GOTTEN TO SEE, ESPECIALLY WITH BLACK PEOPLE. 628 00:36:47,175 --> 00:36:51,345 BUT IT WAS SUCH A SMART ‐‐ CRITIQUE ON LIBERAL WHITES IN A 629 00:36:51,345 --> 00:36:52,413 SENSE EVEN. 630 00:36:52,413 --> 00:36:56,584 >> THEY GOT YOU ON DISPLAY NOW, HUH? IT'S LIKE THEY HAVEN'T MET A 631 00:36:56,584 --> 00:36:58,653 BLACK PERSON THAT HASN'T WORKED FOR 'EM. YUP YOU'RE IN IT. 632 00:36:58,653 --> 00:37:00,688 >> WE NEED MORE BLACK STUDIO EXECUTIVES THAT CAN SAY YES TO 633 00:37:00,688 --> 00:37:01,722 THESE PROJECTS. 634 00:37:01,722 --> 00:37:05,393 >> HOPEFULLY, MOVIN' FORWARD, WE CAN CONTINUE TO SEE MORE OF 635 00:37:05,393 --> 00:37:07,495 THESE STORIES BEING TOLD, JUST SWATH OF THE BLACK EXPERIENCE 636 00:37:07,495 --> 00:37:11,165 AND THE BLACK CREATIVE EXPERIENCE. 637 00:37:11,165 --> 00:37:13,768 >> SHOW OFF! 638 00:37:13,768 --> 00:37:16,904 >> UP NEXT ‐‐ JOHN LEGEND WITH A SONG FOR THE 639 00:37:16,904 --> 00:37:22,610 MOMENT, AND THE AGES. 640 00:37:26,898 --> 00:37:33,054 >>> PERFORMING "NEVER BREAK," HERE'S JOHN LEGEND. 641 00:37:33,054 --> 00:37:39,861 ♪♪ 642 00:37:39,861 --> 00:37:42,497 ♪ ♪ OH YEAH 643 00:37:42,497 --> 00:37:45,099 WE GOT A GOOD THING BABE ♪ 644 00:37:45,099 --> 00:37:48,236 ♪ WHENEVER LIFE IS HARD 645 00:37:48,236 --> 00:37:50,338 WE'LL NEVER LOSE OUR WAY ♪ 646 00:37:50,338 --> 00:37:51,906 ♪ 'CAUSE WE BOTH KNOW 647 00:37:51,906 --> 00:37:56,611 WHO WE ARE WHO KNOWS ABOUT TOMORROW ♪ 648 00:37:56,611 --> 00:37:59,213 ♪ WE DON'T KNOW 649 00:37:59,213 --> 00:38:00,281 WHAT'S IN THE STARS ♪ 650 00:38:00,281 --> 00:38:01,816 ♪ I JUST KNOW 651 00:38:01,816 --> 00:38:09,690 I'LL ALWAYS FOLLOW THE LIGHT IN YOUR HEART ♪ 652 00:38:09,690 --> 00:38:12,293 ♪ I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT US 653 00:38:12,293 --> 00:38:15,963 AND I'VE NEVER BEEN 654 00:38:15,963 --> 00:38:20,635 WE KNOW HOW THE STORY ENDS ♪ 655 00:38:20,635 --> 00:38:22,737 ♪ WE WILL NEVER BREAK 656 00:38:22,737 --> 00:38:25,339 WE WILL NEVER BREAK ♪ 657 00:38:25,339 --> 00:38:28,476 ♪ BUILT ON A FOUNDATION 658 00:38:28,476 --> 00:38:32,079 STRONG ENOUGH TO STAY ♪ 659 00:38:32,079 --> 00:38:34,715 ♪ WE WILL NEVER BREAK 660 00:38:34,715 --> 00:38:38,352 AS THE WATER RISES ♪ 661 00:38:38,352 --> 00:38:40,955 ♪ AND THE MOUNTAINS SHAKE 662 00:38:40,955 --> 00:38:45,126 OUR LOVE WILL REMAIN ♪ 663 00:38:45,126 --> 00:38:47,228 ♪ WE WILL NEVER 664 00:38:47,228 --> 00:38:49,830 NO NO NEVER ♪ 665 00:38:49,830 --> 00:38:53,501 ♪ WE WILL NEVER 666 00:38:53,501 --> 00:38:58,205 NO NO NEVER ♪ 667 00:38:58,205 --> 00:39:00,308 ♪ SO I'M NOT 668 00:39:00,308 --> 00:39:04,478 WORRIED ABOUT US AND I'VE NEVER BEEN ♪ 669 00:39:04,478 --> 00:39:06,080 ♪ NO MATTER WHAT 670 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,149 MAY COME OUR WAY ♪ 671 00:39:08,149 --> 00:39:11,285 ♪ WE WILL NEVER BREAK 672 00:39:11,285 --> 00:39:14,922 WE WILL NEVER BREAK ♪ 673 00:39:14,922 --> 00:39:17,558 ♪ BUILT ON A FOUNDATION 674 00:39:17,558 --> 00:39:20,661 STRONGER THAN THE PAIN ♪ 675 00:39:20,661 --> 00:39:23,831 ♪ WE WILL NEVER BREAK 676 00:39:23,831 --> 00:39:26,434 AS THE WATER RISES ♪ 677 00:39:26,434 --> 00:39:28,536 ♪ AND THE MOUNTAINS SHAKE 678 00:39:28,536 --> 00:39:31,072 OUR LOVE WILL REMAIN ♪ 679 00:39:31,072 --> 00:39:34,742 ♪ WE WILL NEVER 680 00:39:34,742 --> 00:39:38,913 NO NO NEVER ♪ 681 00:39:38,913 --> 00:39:41,015 ♪ WE WILL NEVER 682 00:39:41,015 --> 00:39:43,618 NO NO NEVER ♪ 683 00:39:43,618 --> 00:39:46,253 ♪ WE WILL NEVER 684 00:39:46,253 --> 00:39:48,823 NO NEVER ♪ 685 00:39:48,823 --> 00:39:51,959 ♪ WE WILL NEVER 686 00:39:51,959 --> 00:39:56,664 NO ♪ 687 00:39:56,664 --> 00:40:00,835 ♪ THE WORLD IS DANGEROUS 688 00:40:00,835 --> 00:40:02,403 THROW IT ALL AT US ♪ 689 00:40:02,403 --> 00:40:04,505 ♪ THERE'S NOTHING 690 00:40:04,505 --> 00:40:07,642 WE CANNOT TAKE ♪ 691 00:40:07,642 --> 00:40:10,778 ♪ WE WILL NEVER BREAK 692 00:40:10,778 --> 00:40:14,415 WE WILL NEVER BREAK ♪ 693 00:40:14,415 --> 00:40:16,517 ♪ BUILT ON A FOUNDATION 694 00:40:16,517 --> 00:40:20,187 STRONG ENOUGH TO STAY ♪ 695 00:40:20,187 --> 00:40:23,324 ♪ WE WILL NEVER BREAK 696 00:40:23,324 --> 00:40:25,926 AS THE WATER RISES ♪ 697 00:40:25,926 --> 00:40:29,063 ♪ AND THE MOUNTAINS SHAKE 698 00:40:29,063 --> 00:40:32,133 OUR LOVE WILL REMAIN ♪ 699 00:40:32,133 --> 00:40:35,269 ♪ WE WILL NEVER 700 00:40:35,269 --> 00:40:38,939 NO NO NEVER ♪ 701 00:40:38,939 --> 00:40:41,542 ♪ WE WILL NEVER 702 00:40:41,542 --> 00:40:44,679 NO NO NEVER ♪ 703 00:40:44,679 --> 00:40:46,781 ♪ WE WILL NEVER 704 00:40:46,781 --> 00:40:49,383 NO NEVER ♪ 705 00:40:49,383 --> 00:40:51,485 ♪ WE WILL NEVER 706 00:40:51,485 --> 00:40:55,122 NO ♪ 707 00:40:55,122 --> 00:40:57,224 ♪ WE WILL NEVER 708 00:40:57,224 --> 00:40:59,326 NO NEVER ♪ 709 00:40:59,326 --> 00:41:02,963 ♪ WE WILL 710 00:41:02,963 --> 00:41:11,813 NO ♪♪ 711 00:41:11,813 --> 00:41:14,668 >> THANK YOU FOR WATCHING THE VERY FIRST EPISODE OF SOUL OF A 712 00:41:14,668 --> 00:41:16,860 NATION. MARCH MARSAI MARTIN WILL BE HERE 713 00:41:16,860 --> 00:41:19,962 NEXT WEEK. I'M STERLING K. BROWN, GOODNIGHT!