1 00:00:17,475 --> 00:00:20,103 So, I'm going to ask him if I can make the... 2 00:00:21,563 --> 00:00:23,106 DAVID BONNETT: You're gonna be asking interview questions 3 00:00:23,189 --> 00:00:24,524 for the talking heads. 4 00:00:27,777 --> 00:00:29,279 I don't know if I'm gonna be able to do it 5 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,698 -with a straight face. -DAVID: With a straight face. (LAUGHS) 6 00:00:35,243 --> 00:00:36,745 He's gonna know. 7 00:00:36,786 --> 00:00:38,288 Even if I do it with a straight face, 8 00:00:38,371 --> 00:00:40,623 -he's gonna know it's a joke. -(DAVID LAUGHS) 9 00:00:43,626 --> 00:00:45,128 FaceTime Matt Wolf. 10 00:00:46,629 --> 00:00:49,049 AUTOMATED VOICE: Making a FaceTime call to Matt Wolf. 11 00:00:49,132 --> 00:00:50,467 (DIAL TONE RINGING) 12 00:00:50,508 --> 00:00:51,968 PAUL REUBENS: Hey, I just had a quick thought 13 00:00:52,010 --> 00:00:53,511 I wanted to run by you. 14 00:00:53,595 --> 00:00:57,015 How do you feel... Or I would like to be able to, like, 15 00:00:57,098 --> 00:01:01,561 have my own set of questions and ask questions of the people, 16 00:01:01,644 --> 00:01:03,646 on the talking head interviews. 17 00:01:03,730 --> 00:01:07,067 Like, could I be there, and when you've done your thing, 18 00:01:07,150 --> 00:01:08,985 like I-- or every other question, 19 00:01:09,069 --> 00:01:10,737 I could like, ask a question? 20 00:01:13,323 --> 00:01:15,825 (CLICKS TONGUE) Uh... 21 00:01:15,867 --> 00:01:18,703 I think you already know the answer to that. (LAUGHS) 22 00:01:19,370 --> 00:01:21,122 What? You don't like that idea? 23 00:01:21,581 --> 00:01:22,957 -No. -Why? 24 00:01:22,999 --> 00:01:25,460 I like the idea of you prepping me on stuff 25 00:01:25,502 --> 00:01:28,004 that you think would be good stories to tell 26 00:01:28,045 --> 00:01:31,424 and for me to get that in the context of the interview. 27 00:01:32,509 --> 00:01:34,676 PAUL: I can't ask the questions myself? 28 00:01:34,719 --> 00:01:35,762 No. 29 00:01:37,847 --> 00:01:39,515 Let me do that. Let me do that, 30 00:01:39,598 --> 00:01:42,060 but get your feedback as I'm prepping. 31 00:01:42,644 --> 00:01:45,146 Oh my God! (LAUGHS) 32 00:01:49,567 --> 00:01:50,652 MATT WOLF: What if the documentary 33 00:01:50,693 --> 00:01:52,695 wasn't made at all? What would be lost? 34 00:01:52,737 --> 00:01:54,239 Why do I want to make a documentary? 35 00:01:54,322 --> 00:01:56,366 Is that a better way to ask me what you're asking me, 36 00:01:56,407 --> 00:01:57,826 or is that a different question? 37 00:01:58,660 --> 00:01:59,828 MATT: Tell me what you think. 38 00:02:01,287 --> 00:02:02,372 You're not a therapist. 39 00:02:02,413 --> 00:02:04,207 You don't get to say that kind of stuff. 40 00:02:05,291 --> 00:02:06,459 It's not for me to discover. 41 00:02:06,543 --> 00:02:08,544 It's for you to tell me and lead me. 42 00:02:08,586 --> 00:02:10,755 MATT: Okay, if you didn't choose to make a documentary 43 00:02:10,839 --> 00:02:13,091 and to utilize your 1,000 hours of footage 44 00:02:13,174 --> 00:02:15,218 and tens of thousands of photos... 45 00:02:15,260 --> 00:02:16,386 (SNIFFLES) 46 00:02:16,427 --> 00:02:18,304 MATT: ...some of that stuff or most of that stuff 47 00:02:18,388 --> 00:02:19,597 would never be seen. 48 00:02:21,391 --> 00:02:22,809 Fine. 49 00:02:22,892 --> 00:02:25,061 If all my stuff wasn't seen ever, 50 00:02:25,145 --> 00:02:26,688 I don't care. 51 00:02:26,728 --> 00:02:29,232 Do I? Is that true? Maybe not. 52 00:02:29,315 --> 00:02:32,652 ♪ (CONTEMPLATIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 53 00:02:39,409 --> 00:02:42,453 PAUL: I have been collecting now 54 00:02:42,537 --> 00:02:48,918 for probably at least 50 years, since I was a teenager. 55 00:02:50,545 --> 00:02:54,090 I decided that I was gonna get all my stuff out of storage 56 00:02:54,174 --> 00:02:58,803 and move it to one space and make that project 57 00:02:58,887 --> 00:03:00,722 part of the documentary. 58 00:03:00,763 --> 00:03:03,600 And, voilà, that's what's happened. 59 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,478 It's completely overwhelming, 60 00:03:08,313 --> 00:03:10,899 the amount of stuff and the scope 61 00:03:10,940 --> 00:03:13,902 of seeing it all laid out. 62 00:03:15,612 --> 00:03:19,657 But it's incredible to unpack all that stuff from the past. 63 00:03:19,741 --> 00:03:23,786 ♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪ 64 00:03:35,006 --> 00:03:37,133 People still really don't know me. 65 00:03:37,216 --> 00:03:39,510 I mean, friends know me. 66 00:03:40,011 --> 00:03:41,596 Um... 67 00:03:41,638 --> 00:03:44,015 But I kind of wanted the public to know me. 68 00:03:44,098 --> 00:03:48,144 I kind of wanted-- I think it's time that I, um... 69 00:03:51,231 --> 00:03:55,151 get to be more known and explain, like-- 70 00:03:55,235 --> 00:03:57,779 explain myself, I guess. 71 00:03:57,820 --> 00:04:01,574 As, um, Desi used to say to Lucy, you know, 72 00:04:01,658 --> 00:04:03,159 "You've got some 'splaining to do." 73 00:04:03,243 --> 00:04:05,161 Like, I feel like 74 00:04:05,203 --> 00:04:07,705 people may think that a little bit about me. 75 00:04:07,789 --> 00:04:09,958 Or if they don't, I'd like them to think that, 76 00:04:09,999 --> 00:04:12,710 and I'd like to sort of answer some questions for people 77 00:04:12,794 --> 00:04:16,505 on who I really am and what's my story 78 00:04:16,589 --> 00:04:19,384 and, uh, how did it all, like... 79 00:04:21,469 --> 00:04:22,512 shake down. 80 00:04:25,014 --> 00:04:27,392 (AMBULANCE SIREN WAILING) 81 00:04:27,475 --> 00:04:28,518 PASSERBY: What's going on? 82 00:04:28,601 --> 00:04:30,561 Look, it's Pee-wee Herman. He's walking on a tightrope 83 00:04:30,645 --> 00:04:32,021 between the World Trade Center. 84 00:04:32,063 --> 00:04:33,690 -Hey, watch this! -(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING) 85 00:04:33,773 --> 00:04:37,819 -(HUMS, LAUGHS) -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING, APPLAUDING) 86 00:04:37,860 --> 00:04:39,862 -I don't believe it. -Oh my God! 87 00:04:39,946 --> 00:04:41,364 Danger! Danger! 88 00:04:41,447 --> 00:04:42,740 (OVERLAPPING CHATTER) 89 00:04:42,824 --> 00:04:46,411 ♪ ("SONG FOR A FUTURE GENERATION" BY THE B-52'S PLAYING) ♪ 90 00:04:46,494 --> 00:04:51,207 Live from New York, it's Saturday Night! 91 00:04:51,291 --> 00:04:54,168 ♪ Wanna be the ruler Of the galaxy ♪ 92 00:04:54,210 --> 00:04:57,213 ♪ Wanna be the king Of the universe... ♪ 93 00:04:57,255 --> 00:05:00,717 PAUL: There wasn't like a moment in the '80s 94 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,720 that wasn't really super cool to be me. 95 00:05:05,263 --> 00:05:08,808 I am such a, you know, star-fucker, really. 96 00:05:10,393 --> 00:05:12,061 DOLL: Hello, I'm Pee-wee Herman. 97 00:05:12,145 --> 00:05:15,481 PAUL: There's something so exciting and fun 98 00:05:15,565 --> 00:05:17,400 about success. 99 00:05:17,442 --> 00:05:21,279 ♪ La, la, la-la-la La, la, la-la-la... ♪ 100 00:05:21,362 --> 00:05:24,073 You know, Pee-wee, you are really so sweet. 101 00:05:24,115 --> 00:05:25,992 I know you are, but what am I? 102 00:05:26,075 --> 00:05:28,536 PAUL: If I went to a party, people wanted to, like, 103 00:05:28,578 --> 00:05:31,831 say hi to me and run up to me and, like, fawn over me. 104 00:05:31,914 --> 00:05:34,834 ♪ Daughter-son captain ♪ 105 00:05:34,917 --> 00:05:36,753 PAUL: I took the check that I made 106 00:05:36,794 --> 00:05:38,254 from Pee-wee's Big Adventure 107 00:05:38,296 --> 00:05:39,630 and signed the back of it, 108 00:05:39,714 --> 00:05:41,674 and that was the down payment on my house. 109 00:05:41,758 --> 00:05:43,926 ♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪ 110 00:05:43,968 --> 00:05:45,428 (BIRDS CHIRPING) 111 00:05:45,511 --> 00:05:48,097 PAUL: There were two things about this house 112 00:05:48,139 --> 00:05:50,767 that were really interesting that pushed me over the edge. 113 00:05:50,808 --> 00:05:53,603 One is, I looked over on a hill 114 00:05:53,686 --> 00:05:55,688 next to the house and I saw a deer, 115 00:05:55,772 --> 00:05:58,274 a buck with giant antlers. 116 00:05:58,358 --> 00:05:59,400 And for a second, 117 00:05:59,442 --> 00:06:00,902 I almost thought I was hallucinating. 118 00:06:00,943 --> 00:06:02,612 I wasn't really aware 119 00:06:02,653 --> 00:06:05,698 of there being deer in Los Angeles. 120 00:06:06,407 --> 00:06:08,159 And there was a pool 121 00:06:08,242 --> 00:06:12,205 and I walked around to the end of the pool 122 00:06:12,288 --> 00:06:14,040 where the diving board was, 123 00:06:14,123 --> 00:06:15,458 and I looked up 124 00:06:15,541 --> 00:06:20,296 and I realized that you could dive off the diving board 125 00:06:20,338 --> 00:06:23,883 and see the Hollywood sign at the same time. 126 00:06:23,966 --> 00:06:25,968 (CHUCKLING) And that's what made me buy it. 127 00:06:26,010 --> 00:06:27,637 ♪ (SOFT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 128 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,639 RICH ABRAMSON: At the premiere of Pee-wee's Big Adventure, 129 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,682 an executive from CBS comes up 130 00:06:31,766 --> 00:06:33,308 and she says, "You know something? 131 00:06:33,393 --> 00:06:36,479 We're very, very interested in doing a children's show 132 00:06:36,521 --> 00:06:37,647 with Pee-wee." 133 00:06:37,688 --> 00:06:38,731 I said, "Really?" 134 00:06:38,815 --> 00:06:40,566 And what do you know? It just happens to be time 135 00:06:40,650 --> 00:06:41,818 for your drawing lesson right now. 136 00:06:41,859 --> 00:06:43,027 Come on over here. 137 00:06:43,111 --> 00:06:45,696 PAUL: I was always thinking I would have a nighttime show. 138 00:06:45,780 --> 00:06:48,157 Now, Pee-wee, there's two things missing from this drawing. 139 00:06:48,199 --> 00:06:49,492 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 140 00:06:49,575 --> 00:06:51,159 PAUL: In The Pee-wee Herman Show, 141 00:06:51,244 --> 00:06:54,705 there was all this innuendo and all this kind of like, 142 00:06:54,789 --> 00:06:58,376 -adult flavor. -I know, I know. Earrings. 143 00:06:58,459 --> 00:07:00,962 -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) -(CHUCKLES) No, Pee-wee. 144 00:07:01,003 --> 00:07:02,547 I'd never really thought about 145 00:07:02,630 --> 00:07:04,674 being a children's show host, 146 00:07:04,757 --> 00:07:06,676 but the second I heard it, it sounded right. 147 00:07:07,718 --> 00:07:10,304 The idea of impacting kids 148 00:07:10,346 --> 00:07:14,308 in the way that television had impacted me when I was a kid 149 00:07:14,350 --> 00:07:17,603 was enormously exciting to me. 150 00:07:19,772 --> 00:07:22,817 I thought, "This is such a golden opportunity 151 00:07:22,859 --> 00:07:25,987 to be, like, really influential and widely watched." 152 00:07:27,071 --> 00:07:28,865 ♪ ("THE ENCHANTED ISLE" BY MARTIN DENNY PLAYING) ♪ 153 00:07:28,948 --> 00:07:31,742 RICH: CBS suggested a production partner for us 154 00:07:31,826 --> 00:07:33,786 and we saw some of the things that they did 155 00:07:33,870 --> 00:07:36,706 and some of the access to people that they had, stop motion, 156 00:07:36,789 --> 00:07:39,125 photography, and things like that. 157 00:07:39,207 --> 00:07:42,378 PRUDENCE FENTON: Their perception was it would be 90 percent animated 158 00:07:42,462 --> 00:07:46,340 and ten percent Paul Reubens just introducing the animation. 159 00:07:46,841 --> 00:07:47,925 (CHUCKLES) 160 00:07:48,634 --> 00:07:50,553 I think the producers tried 161 00:07:50,636 --> 00:07:53,431 to put their will on top of it a little bit, 162 00:07:53,514 --> 00:07:58,019 and I quickly found out that Paul was running the show. 163 00:07:59,353 --> 00:08:01,772 PAUL: At a certain point, I had to go like, 164 00:08:01,856 --> 00:08:05,234 you know, "Get Gary Panter. This is ridiculous." 165 00:08:05,318 --> 00:08:07,737 GARY PANTER: Paul believed in my art from the beginning. 166 00:08:07,820 --> 00:08:11,240 I'd spent my whole life preparing for this job. 167 00:08:11,282 --> 00:08:13,993 And I went down and they did end up hiring me, 168 00:08:14,076 --> 00:08:16,996 'cause Paul kept turning down all of their drawings. 169 00:08:17,079 --> 00:08:20,416 And I wanted Ric Heitzman and Wayne White. 170 00:08:20,457 --> 00:08:25,671 So, I made them into our team. We just drew and drew and drew. 171 00:08:27,340 --> 00:08:30,051 WAYNE WHITE: We were all basically underground cartoonists. 172 00:08:30,092 --> 00:08:31,928 We'd just go into this little room 173 00:08:31,969 --> 00:08:34,429 and smoke weed and draw pictures all day long, 174 00:08:34,514 --> 00:08:36,182 and it was a dream job. 175 00:08:38,142 --> 00:08:40,102 Me and Gary and Rick made hundreds, 176 00:08:40,186 --> 00:08:42,355 maybe thousands of drawings, 177 00:08:42,438 --> 00:08:45,191 because Paul liked to see a lot of alternatives. 178 00:08:47,193 --> 00:08:49,570 He always picked out the weirdest stuff I did. 179 00:08:49,612 --> 00:08:51,989 And I love that, 'cause usually, it's the opposite. 180 00:08:53,574 --> 00:08:56,244 PAUL: You know, everybody was sort of like green 181 00:08:56,285 --> 00:08:58,079 and kind of, "Let's put on a show." 182 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,123 And there was like a rickety-ness and an innocence 183 00:09:01,207 --> 00:09:03,876 about the whole thing. And it just felt right. 184 00:09:06,837 --> 00:09:09,549 ALISON MORK: I met Wayne White as a puppeteer. 185 00:09:09,632 --> 00:09:10,800 He wrote me a letter. 186 00:09:10,841 --> 00:09:12,718 And he said, "You know, if you were in New York, 187 00:09:12,802 --> 00:09:15,429 you'd be working on this show for Pee-wee Herman." 188 00:09:15,471 --> 00:09:17,139 PAUL: Alison. 189 00:09:17,223 --> 00:09:18,266 ALISON: Even when I auditioned, 190 00:09:18,307 --> 00:09:20,142 I knew it was gonna be something special. 191 00:09:20,184 --> 00:09:22,812 And as we got into it, that was pretty much confirmed. 192 00:09:24,146 --> 00:09:26,148 I remember the first time I saw Chairry, 193 00:09:26,232 --> 00:09:27,358 I'm walking by and I was like, 194 00:09:27,441 --> 00:09:30,653 "Oh, thank God I'm not going to be in that thing." (LAUGHS) 195 00:09:31,696 --> 00:09:34,323 So, I got in there and I puppeteered it. 196 00:09:34,365 --> 00:09:36,158 It was a very complicated puppet. 197 00:09:36,826 --> 00:09:38,286 I had a little, little, tiny-- 198 00:09:38,327 --> 00:09:40,454 it was like a walkie-talkie side monitor 199 00:09:40,496 --> 00:09:42,540 inside of Chairry. 200 00:09:42,623 --> 00:09:45,960 So I could see what was going on. 201 00:09:46,002 --> 00:09:48,212 One of the great things, I thought, about Pee-wee's Playhouse 202 00:09:48,296 --> 00:09:50,548 is they weren't trying to make them look like Muppets. 203 00:09:52,258 --> 00:09:54,760 They were really more like art school 204 00:09:54,844 --> 00:09:57,179 or cartoonist-style puppets. 205 00:09:57,221 --> 00:10:00,266 ♪ (SOFT INTRIGUING MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 206 00:10:01,851 --> 00:10:04,020 WAYNE: Gary was his go-to guy. 207 00:10:05,021 --> 00:10:07,857 Gary was the consciousness of the playhouse. 208 00:10:07,898 --> 00:10:10,109 He was the design guru. 209 00:10:11,277 --> 00:10:13,696 GARY: The playhouse is like a toy box, 210 00:10:13,779 --> 00:10:16,907 an escape into a pop art world. 211 00:10:16,991 --> 00:10:19,243 It was mind-expanding, in the best sense of the word. 212 00:10:20,703 --> 00:10:23,748 As an art nerd, I was trying to see what the future was 213 00:10:23,831 --> 00:10:24,999 from looking at the past. 214 00:10:26,500 --> 00:10:28,878 PAUL: I felt like Gary was so visionary 215 00:10:28,961 --> 00:10:33,049 and was able to create worlds. 216 00:10:33,090 --> 00:10:35,676 I could just go design the playhouse. 217 00:10:37,219 --> 00:10:38,888 PRUDENCE: That's why it worked. 218 00:10:38,929 --> 00:10:41,057 If you have that kind of vision, 219 00:10:41,098 --> 00:10:43,225 it unifies the whole world 220 00:10:43,309 --> 00:10:45,478 in a way that makes the world real. 221 00:10:46,479 --> 00:10:48,898 The opening sequence was a fly-through. 222 00:10:48,939 --> 00:10:50,274 It wasn't easy. It wasn't-- 223 00:10:50,358 --> 00:10:52,860 Nothing was instant like it is now. 224 00:10:52,902 --> 00:10:54,945 Twice a day, for seven weeks, 225 00:10:55,029 --> 00:10:57,948 we would take a black-and-white video 226 00:10:58,032 --> 00:11:00,159 down to Paul to see. 227 00:11:00,242 --> 00:11:03,162 He would notice a wrong movement, 228 00:11:03,245 --> 00:11:04,955 and then we'd come back in the afternoon, 229 00:11:05,039 --> 00:11:06,374 and he would say, 230 00:11:06,415 --> 00:11:08,084 "No, you want to go up at this point, 231 00:11:08,125 --> 00:11:09,460 you want to go down at this point." 232 00:11:09,543 --> 00:11:13,798 And every time we did it, it would be better. 233 00:11:16,258 --> 00:11:18,386 ♪ ("PEE-WEE'S PLAYHOUSE" THEME SONG PLAYING) ♪ 234 00:11:18,427 --> 00:11:19,762 (BIRDS CHIRPING) 235 00:11:19,804 --> 00:11:22,098 PAUL: I wanted the opening of Pee-wee's Playhouse 236 00:11:22,139 --> 00:11:24,183 to be very kind of like, 237 00:11:24,266 --> 00:11:27,311 ooh, like ooh. 238 00:11:32,483 --> 00:11:36,153 Like, I just wanted to be drawn right into the TV 239 00:11:36,237 --> 00:11:37,613 and right into this world 240 00:11:37,697 --> 00:11:41,283 and have every other element drop away 241 00:11:41,367 --> 00:11:45,121 so that you were just, you know, transfixed. 242 00:11:45,162 --> 00:11:47,331 ♪ (QUIRKY MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 243 00:11:50,835 --> 00:11:51,794 (YELLS) 244 00:11:51,877 --> 00:11:54,964 ♪ Come in And pull yourself up a chair ♪ 245 00:11:55,047 --> 00:11:56,132 ♪ Like Chairry! ♪ 246 00:11:56,215 --> 00:11:57,425 ♪ Let the fun begin ♪ 247 00:11:57,466 --> 00:12:00,052 ♪ It's time to Let down Your hair ♪ 248 00:12:00,136 --> 00:12:01,137 (LAUGHS) 249 00:12:01,178 --> 00:12:02,972 ♪ Pee-wee's so excited ♪ 250 00:12:03,055 --> 00:12:05,641 -♪ Because all his friends Have been invited ♪ -♪ That's you ♪ 251 00:12:05,683 --> 00:12:08,978 ♪ Go wacky At Pee-wee's Playhouse ♪ 252 00:12:09,061 --> 00:12:10,104 (YELLS) 253 00:12:10,146 --> 00:12:13,190 ♪ There's a crazy rhythm coming From Puppet Land ♪ 254 00:12:13,274 --> 00:12:14,358 ♪ What's that? ♪ 255 00:12:14,442 --> 00:12:16,444 ♪ Dirty Dog Cool Cat, Chicky Baby ♪ 256 00:12:16,485 --> 00:12:18,988 -♪ Are the Puppet Band ♪ -♪ Yeah ♪ 257 00:12:19,071 --> 00:12:21,365 ♪ He's got a couple Of talking fish ♪ 258 00:12:21,449 --> 00:12:23,284 ♪ And a genie Who'll grant a wish ♪ 259 00:12:23,325 --> 00:12:28,164 ♪ Golly, it's cuckoo At Pee-wee's Playhouse ♪ 260 00:12:28,205 --> 00:12:30,332 ♪ Now, we've given you Fair warning ♪ 261 00:12:30,374 --> 00:12:32,835 ♪ It's going to be That kind of morning ♪ 262 00:12:32,877 --> 00:12:37,047 ♪ For being wacky For getting nutty ♪ 263 00:12:37,131 --> 00:12:43,262 ♪ Golly, it's cuckoo At Pee-wee's Playhouse ♪ 264 00:12:43,345 --> 00:12:45,514 -♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ -(LAUGHS) 265 00:12:45,556 --> 00:12:48,517 ♪ (WHIMSICAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 266 00:12:51,020 --> 00:12:53,105 PAUL: If you're gonna have a kid's show, 267 00:12:53,189 --> 00:12:56,275 you better really do something great. 268 00:12:56,358 --> 00:12:58,152 Oh, hello, boys and girls. 269 00:12:58,194 --> 00:13:00,404 Me and Globey and Magic Screen were just going through 270 00:13:00,488 --> 00:13:02,198 some of our old junk. (LAUGHS) 271 00:13:02,239 --> 00:13:04,116 -Hello, boys and girls. -Hello, boys and girls. 272 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,828 Look, it's one of my favorite old records. 273 00:13:07,870 --> 00:13:12,124 -Remember this one, Globey? -Oh, I love that record. 274 00:13:12,208 --> 00:13:14,251 -(PICTURE PHONE RINGING) -I'll get it. I'll get it! 275 00:13:14,335 --> 00:13:16,962 I felt like I could just give this beautiful, 276 00:13:17,046 --> 00:13:20,216 incredible gift to kids. 277 00:13:20,257 --> 00:13:22,593 Pee-wee's Playhouse! Pee-wee speaking! Who's this? 278 00:13:22,676 --> 00:13:24,595 KIDS: Hi, Pee-wee! 279 00:13:24,678 --> 00:13:27,640 -Hi, kids! Guess what? -KIDS: What? 280 00:13:27,723 --> 00:13:30,893 I'm having a party, and you're invited! 281 00:13:30,935 --> 00:13:32,728 -(LAUGHS) -(KIDS CHEERING) 282 00:13:32,812 --> 00:13:34,396 PAUL: They could just jump into the TV 283 00:13:34,438 --> 00:13:36,357 and jump into a world that was, like, 284 00:13:36,398 --> 00:13:38,651 really full of beauty and fun. 285 00:13:41,946 --> 00:13:43,781 Hi, Elvis! Hi, Cher! 286 00:13:43,864 --> 00:13:45,115 KIDS: Hi, Pee-wee! 287 00:13:45,199 --> 00:13:46,700 We've got a new member! 288 00:13:46,742 --> 00:13:48,244 NATASHA LYONNE: I think it was almost like 289 00:13:48,327 --> 00:13:50,746 I thought I was inside of a cartoon or something. 290 00:13:50,830 --> 00:13:53,082 I don't know why they thought I was an eccentric 291 00:13:53,123 --> 00:13:55,251 or would fit in at all. 292 00:13:55,334 --> 00:13:58,587 Uh, yeah, you know, a little, tiny Paul Giamatti. 293 00:14:00,172 --> 00:14:03,133 I do remember being on set 294 00:14:03,217 --> 00:14:05,719 and that it was the most exciting thing 295 00:14:05,761 --> 00:14:07,263 I'd ever done. 296 00:14:07,346 --> 00:14:09,598 I think it felt like permission to be myself. 297 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,309 CONKY: Today's se-- se-- se-- secret word is... 298 00:14:14,353 --> 00:14:18,941 "Fun." (LAUGHS) Today's secret word is "Fun." 299 00:14:19,024 --> 00:14:20,943 How would you guys like to go outside 300 00:14:21,026 --> 00:14:22,027 and play with Pterri? 301 00:14:22,111 --> 00:14:23,696 That sounds like fun. 302 00:14:24,154 --> 00:14:26,615 (ALL CHEERING) 303 00:14:26,657 --> 00:14:28,284 -(LAUGHS) -Oh. 304 00:14:28,325 --> 00:14:30,619 -Good morning, Chairry. -Good morning. 305 00:14:30,661 --> 00:14:33,455 LYNNE STEWART: I was so thrilled and so excited 306 00:14:33,497 --> 00:14:37,501 that I was gonna get to be Miss Yvonne on camera. 307 00:14:37,585 --> 00:14:40,796 -Good morning, Mr. Window. -Hello, Miss Yvonne. 308 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,631 Good morning, boys and girls. 309 00:14:42,715 --> 00:14:45,217 LYNNE: She always was kind and loving 310 00:14:45,301 --> 00:14:49,305 and she always wanted everybody to be happy and beautiful. 311 00:14:49,388 --> 00:14:50,890 Ta-da! (CHUCKLES) 312 00:14:50,973 --> 00:14:55,060 -Presenting the new Mrs. Steve! -Let me see, let me see. 313 00:14:55,144 --> 00:14:56,270 MISS YVONNE: Okay. 314 00:14:57,396 --> 00:15:00,149 -You're right! I am beautiful! -MISS YVONNE: Mm-hmm! 315 00:15:00,232 --> 00:15:03,736 And when you feel beautiful, you are beautiful. 316 00:15:05,446 --> 00:15:07,948 EPATHA MERKERSON: I walk in to this audition. 317 00:15:07,990 --> 00:15:10,367 They said, "This is Paul." And I went, "Oh, hey." 318 00:15:10,451 --> 00:15:15,164 And this little, small, skinny guy with long hair, 319 00:15:15,205 --> 00:15:18,709 a mustache and goatee, and cutoffs. 320 00:15:18,792 --> 00:15:21,503 He looked like a '60s reject. 321 00:15:21,545 --> 00:15:24,340 I didn't connect that he would be Pee-wee. 322 00:15:25,716 --> 00:15:29,011 -Here you go. -Ah! Pen pal letters! 323 00:15:29,053 --> 00:15:31,388 EPATHA: You know, what I love about Reba is that 324 00:15:31,472 --> 00:15:34,350 she was the only normal person in the crew. 325 00:15:34,391 --> 00:15:36,518 Would you like to sit down by the campfire and dry off? 326 00:15:38,687 --> 00:15:41,231 -What campfire? -That one. 327 00:15:41,315 --> 00:15:44,193 ♪ (SAD TROMBONE PLAYS) ♪ 328 00:15:44,234 --> 00:15:45,778 Oh. 329 00:15:45,861 --> 00:15:50,699 Oh yeah. That one. Uh, no. I'll just get wet again anyway. 330 00:15:50,741 --> 00:15:53,535 EPATHA: She's the only one that saw the weirdness 331 00:15:53,619 --> 00:15:54,912 in the playhouse. 332 00:15:56,246 --> 00:15:58,457 Okay. Oh, hey, who would like a Tootsie Roll? 333 00:15:58,540 --> 00:16:00,417 -Okay, right there. (GRUNTS) -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 334 00:16:00,501 --> 00:16:02,544 LAURENCE FISHBURNE: When I first saw Paul as Pee-wee, 335 00:16:02,586 --> 00:16:05,547 it was probably like, 1980, '81, at the Groundling Theatre. 336 00:16:05,631 --> 00:16:08,842 And, um, I didn't get it. (CHUCKLES) 337 00:16:08,884 --> 00:16:10,844 I just-- I was like, 338 00:16:10,886 --> 00:16:12,888 "Who is this little man in this bowtie, 339 00:16:12,930 --> 00:16:14,390 and why is he throwing Tootsie Pops 340 00:16:14,473 --> 00:16:16,767 and Tootsie Rolls at people?" (LAUGHS) 341 00:16:18,477 --> 00:16:20,020 I got a call, you know, "Pee-wee Herman 342 00:16:20,062 --> 00:16:22,564 wants to see you about playing a cowboy." 343 00:16:22,648 --> 00:16:25,734 You know, I'd had no experience with performance art, 344 00:16:25,818 --> 00:16:26,860 as it were. 345 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,075 I had no experience with performing for children. 346 00:16:35,703 --> 00:16:37,997 Cowboy Curtis was a different kind of cowboy, 347 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,915 and I think that's because Cowboy Curtis 348 00:16:39,957 --> 00:16:42,084 was just as much an outsider 349 00:16:42,126 --> 00:16:43,502 and different as Pee-wee was. 350 00:16:43,585 --> 00:16:45,796 -♪ (WHIMSICAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -Thank you, Jambi. 351 00:16:45,879 --> 00:16:48,924 Over here, Pee-wee. Put me on. 352 00:16:49,008 --> 00:16:51,760 PAUL: I wanted kids to learn about being a nonconformist 353 00:16:51,844 --> 00:16:53,595 and what nonconformity was. 354 00:16:54,638 --> 00:16:56,765 You could be somebody who just doesn't conform 355 00:16:56,849 --> 00:16:59,476 to, like, society's rules. 356 00:17:04,022 --> 00:17:06,275 It's like you can do the opposite of things. 357 00:17:06,316 --> 00:17:07,734 You can do whatever you want. 358 00:17:09,611 --> 00:17:10,779 (CHUCKLES) 359 00:17:10,820 --> 00:17:12,114 ♪ ("FEVER" BY PEGGY LEE PLAYING) ♪ 360 00:17:12,156 --> 00:17:17,327 ♪ Never know how much I love you Never know how much I care ♪ 361 00:17:18,494 --> 00:17:21,290 ♪ When you put your arms Around me ♪ 362 00:17:21,330 --> 00:17:23,791 ♪ I get a fever That's so hard to bear ♪ 363 00:17:23,876 --> 00:17:25,085 ♪ You give me fever... ♪ 364 00:17:25,127 --> 00:17:28,630 PAUL: I just put in a lot of stuff in Pee-wee's Playhouse 365 00:17:28,672 --> 00:17:30,424 that I thought, "Why not?" 366 00:17:32,634 --> 00:17:35,137 I'm going to put on my mom's high heels 367 00:17:35,179 --> 00:17:36,138 and walk around, 368 00:17:36,221 --> 00:17:37,973 because that's what I want to do. 369 00:17:38,057 --> 00:17:39,141 Backwards. 370 00:17:39,224 --> 00:17:45,439 ♪ Sun lights up the daytime Moon lights up the night ♪ 371 00:17:45,481 --> 00:17:49,234 ♪ I light up when you call My name, and you know... ♪ 372 00:17:49,318 --> 00:17:52,488 And did I put my mom's high heels on? 373 00:17:52,529 --> 00:17:54,198 Yes, I did, okay? 374 00:17:54,281 --> 00:17:56,575 ♪ (GRANDIOSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 375 00:17:58,285 --> 00:18:01,497 PLAYHOUSE CHARACTER: Oh, man. Oh, man. What a moon! 376 00:18:01,538 --> 00:18:03,791 PAUL: I just felt, right from the get-go, 377 00:18:03,832 --> 00:18:06,794 something that I could do that could be very important 378 00:18:06,835 --> 00:18:09,922 and very subliminal 379 00:18:10,005 --> 00:18:13,509 would be to just make the show very inclusive 380 00:18:13,592 --> 00:18:16,011 and not comment on it in any way. 381 00:18:18,013 --> 00:18:21,433 EPATHA: Captain Kangaroo, Soupy Sales, 382 00:18:21,517 --> 00:18:24,645 Howdy Doody, you know, none of those shows 383 00:18:24,686 --> 00:18:26,688 did I see myself reflected. 384 00:18:28,357 --> 00:18:33,862 So, that I had the opportunity to be a part of a show 385 00:18:33,904 --> 00:18:36,532 that young Black kids would see and go, 386 00:18:36,615 --> 00:18:39,827 "Oh, there's an image of me here." 387 00:18:39,868 --> 00:18:41,537 That means a lot to me. 388 00:18:41,578 --> 00:18:43,372 (BLACULA GRUNTS) 389 00:18:43,455 --> 00:18:48,043 NARRATOR: Rising from his tomb to fill the night with horror... 390 00:18:48,127 --> 00:18:51,004 PAUL: William Marshall had played the title character, 391 00:18:51,046 --> 00:18:52,673 Blacula. 392 00:18:52,714 --> 00:18:54,842 NARRATOR: ...Dracula's soul brother. 393 00:18:54,883 --> 00:18:57,553 PAUL: And to a lot of the Black actors 394 00:18:57,636 --> 00:19:02,224 who came in on the show, he was like a rock star, God. 395 00:19:02,307 --> 00:19:07,062 Boys and girls, Playhouse friends, and cowboys, 396 00:19:07,104 --> 00:19:10,274 and people taking bubble baths... 397 00:19:11,733 --> 00:19:16,071 Let the cartoon begin! 398 00:19:16,113 --> 00:19:18,866 NARRATOR: El Hombre Superhéroe! 399 00:19:20,325 --> 00:19:24,121 PAUL: We added a Spanish cartoon called El Hombre, 400 00:19:24,204 --> 00:19:27,291 and I wanted it to look like velvet painting. 401 00:19:27,374 --> 00:19:29,751 -(BRAKES SQUEALING) -(SINISTER LAUGHTER) 402 00:19:30,961 --> 00:19:33,213 (SPEAKS SPANISH) 403 00:19:33,255 --> 00:19:35,632 PAUL: And people kept coming to me going like, 404 00:19:35,716 --> 00:19:37,467 "You have to subtitle it." 405 00:19:37,551 --> 00:19:39,386 And I go, "Why?" 406 00:19:40,137 --> 00:19:41,430 (SPEAKS SPANISH) 407 00:19:41,471 --> 00:19:43,557 (GASPS, YELPS) 408 00:19:43,599 --> 00:19:44,933 (SPEAKS SPANISH) 409 00:19:45,017 --> 00:19:46,226 Viva El Hombre! 410 00:19:46,977 --> 00:19:49,062 Adiós, amigos. Vámonos. 411 00:19:50,939 --> 00:19:52,024 (LOUD CRASH) 412 00:19:54,151 --> 00:19:55,360 PRUDENCE: Penny was out there. 413 00:19:55,444 --> 00:19:56,945 She was supposed to be the little feminist. 414 00:19:57,029 --> 00:19:58,947 And we interviewed seven-year-olds 415 00:19:58,989 --> 00:20:02,284 and animated to their stories. 416 00:20:02,367 --> 00:20:04,286 Hello, my name's Penny. 417 00:20:04,369 --> 00:20:05,662 I think children should have rights 418 00:20:05,746 --> 00:20:07,581 about where they want to move 419 00:20:07,623 --> 00:20:09,583 and-- and how they want to live. 420 00:20:10,459 --> 00:20:12,127 (SQUAWKS) 421 00:20:12,169 --> 00:20:13,629 And not about they want to go to sleep 422 00:20:13,712 --> 00:20:14,796 at one o'clock in the morning 423 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,299 and like go to school, not go to school. 424 00:20:18,717 --> 00:20:21,637 I'm-- I'm not-- I'm saying that the parents shouldn't say, 425 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,096 "Well, we're going to take you over here 426 00:20:23,138 --> 00:20:24,806 because we're the parents and we pay the rent." 427 00:20:24,890 --> 00:20:25,807 PARENTS: We're paying the rent. 428 00:20:25,891 --> 00:20:27,643 PAUL: I was gonna try to be educational 429 00:20:27,726 --> 00:20:30,312 in a more undercover way, 430 00:20:30,395 --> 00:20:32,314 so that you wouldn't really even realize 431 00:20:32,356 --> 00:20:35,150 that there was much going on educationally. 432 00:20:35,192 --> 00:20:38,779 I mean, parents shouldn't rule the life of kids. 433 00:20:38,820 --> 00:20:41,990 It's like they treat children like-- like children, you know? 434 00:20:44,451 --> 00:20:49,164 -Randy, what are you doing? -Nothing. I'm smoking. 435 00:20:49,248 --> 00:20:52,167 -Want a drag? -No, Randy. I don't smoke. 436 00:20:52,251 --> 00:20:56,296 -Smoking is bad for you. -So? It makes me look cool. 437 00:20:56,338 --> 00:20:58,257 PAUL: No, it doesn't make you look cool, Randy. 438 00:20:58,340 --> 00:21:00,092 It makes you look stupid. 439 00:21:00,175 --> 00:21:01,593 You're cool already. 440 00:21:01,677 --> 00:21:03,387 (COUGHS) 441 00:21:03,470 --> 00:21:04,721 PAUL: Saturday morning television 442 00:21:04,805 --> 00:21:07,808 at that time was not just a little lawless. 443 00:21:07,849 --> 00:21:11,019 It was extremely lawless. It was the Wild West. 444 00:21:11,103 --> 00:21:13,689 We could literally do anything we wanted to do. 445 00:21:13,772 --> 00:21:18,694 -(MOANS, GRUNTS) -♪ (FRENETIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 446 00:21:24,908 --> 00:21:26,576 -♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ -Phew. 447 00:21:26,660 --> 00:21:31,039 -Are you okay, Miss Yvonne? -Oh, yes. Thank you, Pee-wee. 448 00:21:31,081 --> 00:21:33,250 Oh, and thank you, big fella. 449 00:21:33,333 --> 00:21:35,210 -(HORSE SNORTING) -Oh. (LAUGHS) 450 00:21:35,252 --> 00:21:36,420 You know, Pee-wee, when it comes 451 00:21:36,503 --> 00:21:38,297 to fixing mechanical things around the house, 452 00:21:38,380 --> 00:21:41,842 it's always best to use a qualified repairman. 453 00:21:41,883 --> 00:21:44,594 He has the right tools, and he knows how to use them. 454 00:21:44,678 --> 00:21:48,223 Oh! Johnny, would you mind swinging by my house? 455 00:21:48,307 --> 00:21:50,559 I'm sure there's something there that needs to be fixed. 456 00:21:50,642 --> 00:21:52,894 And if not, we could break something. 457 00:21:52,936 --> 00:21:54,771 PAUL: I designed things 458 00:21:54,855 --> 00:21:57,316 that were meant to go over a kid's head. 459 00:21:57,399 --> 00:22:00,193 And if it didn't, then that meant that the kid 460 00:22:00,235 --> 00:22:03,613 learned something either from you as the parent 461 00:22:03,697 --> 00:22:06,241 or from the street. (CHUCKLES) 462 00:22:06,325 --> 00:22:09,286 -♪ La, la, la, la-la-la-la ♪ -(DOG BARKS) 463 00:22:10,662 --> 00:22:12,331 PAUL: I thought that having a kids' show 464 00:22:12,414 --> 00:22:14,583 on Saturday morning television 465 00:22:14,666 --> 00:22:16,668 immediately to me seemed subversive 466 00:22:16,752 --> 00:22:20,672 in a really eccentric, arty, cool, great way. 467 00:22:20,756 --> 00:22:22,299 Did you wash your hands? 468 00:22:23,633 --> 00:22:25,344 Good boy! (CHUCKLES) 469 00:22:26,636 --> 00:22:29,264 PAUL: I wanted to add something that I loved 470 00:22:29,306 --> 00:22:32,100 about the early Andy Warhol movies 471 00:22:32,142 --> 00:22:34,227 that I thought was very high-concept. 472 00:22:35,812 --> 00:22:39,274 I had a dog that came into the playhouse 473 00:22:39,358 --> 00:22:42,319 and we shot him for about two minutes 474 00:22:42,402 --> 00:22:44,196 eating this bowl of food. 475 00:23:03,423 --> 00:23:07,677 -♪ (QUIRKY MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -(OVERLAPPING CHATTER) 476 00:23:07,761 --> 00:23:10,680 We're having an indoor picnic in the middle of the night. 477 00:23:10,764 --> 00:23:11,765 (CHUCKLES) 478 00:23:11,807 --> 00:23:14,518 I had some leftover fruit salad in the refrigerator. 479 00:23:14,601 --> 00:23:18,814 PAUL: I just felt like, "Wow, I can be a beacon out there 480 00:23:18,855 --> 00:23:21,650 of going like, 'It's okay to be different. 481 00:23:21,733 --> 00:23:23,527 It's okay to be creative.'" 482 00:23:23,610 --> 00:23:26,154 Fruity. I love fruit salad. 483 00:23:26,238 --> 00:23:28,365 ALL: Then why don't you marry it? 484 00:23:30,033 --> 00:23:32,828 All right then, I will. 485 00:23:32,911 --> 00:23:34,079 -(CHUCKLES) -(ALL LAUGH) 486 00:23:34,162 --> 00:23:35,664 ♪ (QUIRKY RENDITION OF "BRIDAL CHORUS" PLAYING) ♪ 487 00:23:35,705 --> 00:23:37,374 Do you, Pee-wee Herman, 488 00:23:37,457 --> 00:23:41,253 take this fruit salad to be your lawfully wedded wife? 489 00:23:41,336 --> 00:23:44,172 To have and to hold from this day forward, 490 00:23:44,256 --> 00:23:46,133 in sickness and in health, 491 00:23:46,174 --> 00:23:48,385 till death do you part, so help you God. 492 00:23:51,221 --> 00:23:52,431 PTERRI: Do you? Do you? 493 00:23:53,723 --> 00:23:54,808 I do. 494 00:23:56,601 --> 00:23:58,019 -(LAUGHS) -(CAST CHEERS) 495 00:23:58,061 --> 00:24:00,772 PAUL: Not only is being different okay, 496 00:24:00,856 --> 00:24:02,524 but let's celebrate it. 497 00:24:05,652 --> 00:24:07,779 Hi. While the cartoon was playing, 498 00:24:07,863 --> 00:24:10,073 I took an ordinary potato like this 499 00:24:10,157 --> 00:24:11,992 and stuck some pencils in it. 500 00:24:12,033 --> 00:24:15,078 And I made an animal that looks like this. 501 00:24:15,162 --> 00:24:16,663 PAUL: I remember the first episode 502 00:24:16,705 --> 00:24:18,331 of Pee-wee's Playhouse, 503 00:24:18,373 --> 00:24:20,959 I got a note from the network. 504 00:24:21,042 --> 00:24:24,379 I was being creative. I used my imagination. 505 00:24:24,421 --> 00:24:26,256 You can do this at home too. 506 00:24:26,339 --> 00:24:29,134 PAUL: "You can't stick pencils in potatoes." 507 00:24:30,010 --> 00:24:31,553 And I said, "Why?" 508 00:24:31,636 --> 00:24:35,724 And they went, "Okay, you can." (LAUGHS) 509 00:24:35,807 --> 00:24:39,144 I, in five seasons of Pee-wee's Playhouse, 510 00:24:39,227 --> 00:24:40,979 probably had like five notes. 511 00:24:41,062 --> 00:24:44,524 (OVERLAPPING CHEERING, CHATTER) 512 00:24:44,566 --> 00:24:46,276 ♪ (GROOVY MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 513 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,653 PAUL: I dug my heels in and felt like, 514 00:24:48,737 --> 00:24:51,573 "This is me. This is what I'm gonna do." 515 00:24:51,615 --> 00:24:54,951 And I was in the right place at the right time. 516 00:24:56,369 --> 00:24:58,455 Boy, this luau sure was great. 517 00:24:58,538 --> 00:25:01,208 I hope all you boys and girls had a lot of fun! 518 00:25:01,249 --> 00:25:03,001 (ALL CHEERING) 519 00:25:04,169 --> 00:25:05,629 Aloha! 520 00:25:05,712 --> 00:25:07,839 (RUMBLING WHOOSH) 521 00:25:07,923 --> 00:25:09,758 (PEE-WEE HERMAN SCREAMS) 522 00:25:11,551 --> 00:25:12,594 ♪ (MELLOW MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 523 00:25:12,677 --> 00:25:15,430 PRUDENCE: Season one was filmed in a loft in SoHo. 524 00:25:15,472 --> 00:25:17,933 The producers did not want to give all this money 525 00:25:17,974 --> 00:25:20,060 to a real stage. 526 00:25:20,101 --> 00:25:22,646 They felt that, you know, it was better to cut corners. 527 00:25:24,064 --> 00:25:25,440 That show was made 528 00:25:25,524 --> 00:25:28,068 despite what the production company wanted. 529 00:25:29,319 --> 00:25:30,487 It was crazy 530 00:25:30,570 --> 00:25:33,281 to the point where Paul banned them from the set. 531 00:25:34,866 --> 00:25:37,369 PAUL: Since we were still in production, 532 00:25:37,452 --> 00:25:40,455 I wasn't around when they put the show together. 533 00:25:40,539 --> 00:25:42,207 So I hadn't seen it. 534 00:25:42,290 --> 00:25:43,291 RICH: So, the first show, 535 00:25:43,375 --> 00:25:45,669 we stayed up all night on Friday night. 536 00:25:45,752 --> 00:25:46,795 The show was supposed to air 537 00:25:46,878 --> 00:25:48,296 Saturday morning at nine o'clock. 538 00:25:48,380 --> 00:25:49,422 So, they're calling me, 539 00:25:49,464 --> 00:25:51,049 "Where's the show? Where's the show?" 540 00:25:51,132 --> 00:25:53,718 We finished at about 5:00 or 6:00 in the morning. 541 00:25:54,844 --> 00:25:56,555 PRUDENCE: I just remember walking over 542 00:25:56,638 --> 00:25:59,641 with Rich Abramson to CBS 543 00:25:59,724 --> 00:26:03,144 with the one inch, you know, being carried 544 00:26:03,186 --> 00:26:04,980 and taking it in to them and going, 545 00:26:05,063 --> 00:26:06,648 "Here, here's for the satellite hookup." 546 00:26:06,731 --> 00:26:09,150 It was really 20 minutes before it aired. 547 00:26:09,234 --> 00:26:11,528 ♪ (GROOVY MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 548 00:26:12,904 --> 00:26:16,199 PAUL: I was anxious to know, was it okay? 549 00:26:18,868 --> 00:26:21,454 I had really high hopes for it all. 550 00:26:21,496 --> 00:26:23,999 And thank God it came out good. 551 00:26:26,501 --> 00:26:28,336 -Knock, knock. -Who's there? 552 00:26:29,087 --> 00:26:30,839 -Dwayne. -Dwayne who? 553 00:26:30,922 --> 00:26:35,176 Dwayne the bathtub. I'm drowning. (LAUGHS) 554 00:26:35,260 --> 00:26:38,555 PAUL: Being me, I was on to, "Here's my own notes, 555 00:26:38,638 --> 00:26:39,848 here's what I got to fix, 556 00:26:39,889 --> 00:26:41,558 this is what I'm gonna do next." 557 00:26:44,269 --> 00:26:45,478 RICH: After the show aired, 558 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,856 the network called on Monday and said, 559 00:26:47,939 --> 00:26:50,900 "The ratings are high. The critics love it. 560 00:26:50,984 --> 00:26:54,029 This is an unbelievable success." 561 00:26:54,112 --> 00:26:57,032 GARY: We've tapped into some vein 562 00:26:57,073 --> 00:27:00,910 of the psyche that needed to emerge at that moment. 563 00:27:00,994 --> 00:27:03,496 PRUDENCE: You know, it wasn't just the four-year-olds watching it. 564 00:27:03,538 --> 00:27:05,707 It was the college kids, it was the stoners. 565 00:27:05,749 --> 00:27:08,043 It was everybody watching it. 566 00:27:08,126 --> 00:27:11,338 It was like a bomb that was dropped in 1986 567 00:27:11,379 --> 00:27:13,798 on the world of television that just exploded. 568 00:27:15,133 --> 00:27:16,885 PAUL: It was pretty much off my radar 569 00:27:16,926 --> 00:27:18,553 that I had a hit TV show. 570 00:27:19,429 --> 00:27:21,598 There's weeks more of work to do. 571 00:27:21,681 --> 00:27:23,183 It's not over. 572 00:27:23,224 --> 00:27:24,768 And so, I said, 573 00:27:24,851 --> 00:27:27,228 "I cannot do it like this anymore." 574 00:27:27,312 --> 00:27:30,649 I wanted to be in Los Angeles in a sound stage 575 00:27:30,732 --> 00:27:33,735 with a full-on professional everything. 576 00:27:33,777 --> 00:27:35,403 And that's what we did. 577 00:27:36,446 --> 00:27:39,532 ♪ (MUSIC SWELLS, CONCLUDES) ♪ 578 00:27:40,325 --> 00:27:42,160 My alarm just went off alerting me 579 00:27:42,243 --> 00:27:44,204 that it's time to do a birthday text. 580 00:27:44,245 --> 00:27:46,581 And today is a heavy birthday day 581 00:27:46,665 --> 00:27:49,250 because I have 12 birthdays today, 582 00:27:49,292 --> 00:27:51,586 including my eye doctor. 583 00:27:53,171 --> 00:27:55,590 I send a birthday GIF all day to people 584 00:27:55,674 --> 00:27:57,759 about every two or three hours 585 00:27:57,842 --> 00:28:01,054 from sunup to sundown from the time I get up. 586 00:28:02,222 --> 00:28:03,264 Listen, you seem busy. 587 00:28:03,348 --> 00:28:05,016 I'm gonna let you let me run in just a minute. 588 00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:08,937 'Cause I am very busy doing these texts. 589 00:28:08,978 --> 00:28:10,980 My God. Why do I even do this? 590 00:28:11,064 --> 00:28:12,023 I've turned-- This has turned 591 00:28:12,107 --> 00:28:13,692 -into like a full... -(CELL PHONE CHIMES) 592 00:28:14,651 --> 00:28:16,945 And now people are texting me back. 593 00:28:17,028 --> 00:28:20,073 "Ha, ha, I love that. I love you so much, Paul. 594 00:28:20,115 --> 00:28:21,991 How do you ever remember my birthday?" 595 00:28:22,075 --> 00:28:23,451 That's the part I can't figure out. 596 00:28:23,493 --> 00:28:24,744 -(CELL PHONE CHIMES) -It's like... 597 00:28:26,079 --> 00:28:27,622 ♪ (SOFT PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 598 00:28:27,664 --> 00:28:29,499 (CROWD CHEERING) 599 00:28:33,586 --> 00:28:35,463 Pee-wee Herman chalks up an honor 600 00:28:35,547 --> 00:28:37,132 on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. 601 00:28:37,173 --> 00:28:39,175 It was a circus on Hollywood Boulevard 602 00:28:39,259 --> 00:28:40,593 as hundreds of fans 603 00:28:40,635 --> 00:28:42,804 and members of the media flooded into the street 604 00:28:42,887 --> 00:28:46,349 to see Pee-wee Herman's star unveiled on the Walk of Fame. 605 00:28:47,016 --> 00:28:48,768 PAUL: Let me say this. 606 00:28:48,810 --> 00:28:52,313 I did not get a star on the Walk of Fame. 607 00:28:52,397 --> 00:28:56,443 Pee-wee Herman got a star on the Walk of Fame. 608 00:28:56,484 --> 00:28:59,279 Little bit of irony. Makes sense. 609 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:00,905 More people knew that name. 610 00:29:02,198 --> 00:29:05,493 I wasn't complaining, I'm not complaining now. 611 00:29:05,577 --> 00:29:08,455 Gives me somewhere to go, something to still have happen, 612 00:29:08,496 --> 00:29:10,331 a Paul Reubens star, I'm just saying, 613 00:29:10,415 --> 00:29:11,833 just putting it out there. 614 00:29:11,875 --> 00:29:15,128 -Okay, shut up! -(CROWD LAUGHING) 615 00:29:15,170 --> 00:29:19,048 Anybody who I stepped on to get to the top 616 00:29:19,132 --> 00:29:22,385 can come down here every day after this and step on me. 617 00:29:22,469 --> 00:29:25,764 -(CROWD CHEERING) -Thank you. Thanks. 618 00:29:26,765 --> 00:29:29,684 RICH: My entire life was dedicated, 24/7, 619 00:29:29,726 --> 00:29:30,685 to Paul Reubens 620 00:29:30,727 --> 00:29:32,645 and to the Pee-wee Herman franchise. 621 00:29:33,688 --> 00:29:34,773 We became good friends 622 00:29:34,856 --> 00:29:36,900 'cause we were together all the time. 623 00:29:36,983 --> 00:29:39,027 And just like good friends, sometimes we fought. 624 00:29:40,904 --> 00:29:43,531 PAUL: There was certainly a lot of tension 625 00:29:43,573 --> 00:29:46,326 between me and Rich at this time. 626 00:29:47,952 --> 00:29:53,917 The production in New York was just relentlessly hard. 627 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,296 And I kind of blamed Rich to some degree. 628 00:30:00,256 --> 00:30:03,343 RICH: Paul became very famous pretty quickly, 629 00:30:03,384 --> 00:30:06,471 and I think he got some horrible advice, 630 00:30:06,554 --> 00:30:07,764 and he followed it. 631 00:30:09,015 --> 00:30:11,684 PAUL: I felt the deal that I had made 632 00:30:11,726 --> 00:30:14,771 was stacked against me a little bit, 633 00:30:14,854 --> 00:30:16,397 that I had made a deal that wasn't, 634 00:30:16,439 --> 00:30:19,901 like, really the smartest deal I could have made. 635 00:30:21,694 --> 00:30:23,947 RICH: I'd thrown my heart and soul into him, 636 00:30:24,030 --> 00:30:26,074 and all of a sudden, he goes, "That's it." 637 00:30:27,492 --> 00:30:29,744 And I remember walking from the stage, and going, like, 638 00:30:29,828 --> 00:30:32,247 "I'm done. He doesn't want to work with me anymore." 639 00:30:33,498 --> 00:30:35,708 PAUL: And I left the meeting, picked up a phone, 640 00:30:35,750 --> 00:30:36,835 called an attorney, 641 00:30:36,918 --> 00:30:39,337 and we sued each other for a couple of years. 642 00:30:41,256 --> 00:30:42,757 It was devastating. 643 00:30:42,799 --> 00:30:44,717 It took me a long time to recover from it. 644 00:30:44,759 --> 00:30:46,928 And in some ways, I don't know that I ever have. 645 00:30:49,389 --> 00:30:50,431 WAYNE: Paul had conflicts 646 00:30:50,473 --> 00:30:52,976 with most everybody he worked with. 647 00:30:53,059 --> 00:30:54,894 That was just his nature. 648 00:30:55,979 --> 00:30:59,023 He was such a perfectionist and so driven 649 00:30:59,107 --> 00:31:01,776 to make something that matters. 650 00:31:01,818 --> 00:31:03,111 It takes a lot of negative energy 651 00:31:03,194 --> 00:31:05,071 to get there too. 652 00:31:05,113 --> 00:31:07,782 You have to throw people under the bus. 653 00:31:07,866 --> 00:31:09,450 Everything's transactional. 654 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,957 Paul could hold a grudge. He didn't forgive very easily. 655 00:31:15,999 --> 00:31:17,750 These are a few of the things I'd like to do 656 00:31:17,792 --> 00:31:19,168 on Saturday Night Live. 657 00:31:19,836 --> 00:31:22,255 I'd like to do Playhouse 90, 658 00:31:22,297 --> 00:31:25,884 90-second dramas that are very intense, 659 00:31:25,967 --> 00:31:29,178 uh, like, "Johnny, Johnny, the cops are here!" 660 00:31:29,262 --> 00:31:31,472 "Shut up, shut up, will you? I'm trying to think!" 661 00:31:31,514 --> 00:31:32,515 That kind of thing. 662 00:31:32,599 --> 00:31:34,475 PAUL: During this period of time, 663 00:31:34,517 --> 00:31:36,811 Phil Hartman was my best friend, 664 00:31:36,895 --> 00:31:42,442 but we worked together for the good of Pee-wee. 665 00:31:42,483 --> 00:31:45,778 -When he got on SNL, it was a huge opportunity. -♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 666 00:31:45,820 --> 00:31:47,822 ANNOUNCER: It's Saturday Night Live 667 00:31:48,531 --> 00:31:51,284 with Phil Hartman. 668 00:31:51,326 --> 00:31:54,871 PAUL: He said, "I'm going on SNL and we're starting." 669 00:31:54,954 --> 00:31:56,164 Hi, Captain Carl. 670 00:31:56,247 --> 00:31:58,875 PAUL: I didn't want to lose that amazing character... 671 00:31:58,958 --> 00:32:01,920 -♪ Oh, a sailor travels... ♪ -PAUL: ...but I did. 672 00:32:02,003 --> 00:32:04,172 We didn't hang out anymore. 673 00:32:04,213 --> 00:32:05,965 And he rose to the top 674 00:32:06,007 --> 00:32:08,259 and became one of the stars of SNL. 675 00:32:09,010 --> 00:32:10,053 Good for him. 676 00:32:11,930 --> 00:32:15,767 So, yeah. I kept moving along. 677 00:32:17,143 --> 00:32:20,688 I feel like a character in, um... 678 00:32:20,730 --> 00:32:22,690 The Bad and the Beautiful or something. 679 00:32:22,774 --> 00:32:25,360 Like, it was show business. 680 00:32:25,443 --> 00:32:27,987 (SCOFFS) I'll get my violin. 681 00:32:28,780 --> 00:32:33,076 (INDISTINCT CHATTER OVER TV) 682 00:32:35,036 --> 00:32:37,455 -PAUL: Hi, Coco. -(MEOWS) 683 00:32:39,415 --> 00:32:44,504 PAUL: I was so busy, I had very little social life, 684 00:32:44,545 --> 00:32:47,507 I had very little real outside-of-work life. 685 00:32:51,552 --> 00:32:53,680 There were so many things going on 686 00:32:53,721 --> 00:32:57,100 professionally and creatively 687 00:32:57,183 --> 00:33:01,437 that I needed somebody who could handle all the other stuff. 688 00:33:03,314 --> 00:33:05,984 ALLISON BERRY: I would say, right off the bat, I was way more involved 689 00:33:06,067 --> 00:33:10,071 in beginning to landscape the property. 690 00:33:10,154 --> 00:33:14,492 I planted all those trees with Paul and all that cactus. 691 00:33:14,575 --> 00:33:16,244 Okay. Well, I still think you could go to... 692 00:33:16,327 --> 00:33:17,453 How about Acapulco? 693 00:33:17,537 --> 00:33:20,248 Hey. Like, don't lift anything heavy or move too much, man. 694 00:33:20,331 --> 00:33:22,083 ALLISON: These guys be loose, John. Don't worry. 695 00:33:22,125 --> 00:33:23,084 Yeah, let Art to it. 696 00:33:23,167 --> 00:33:24,210 ALLISON: I mean, he's really good. 697 00:33:24,252 --> 00:33:25,461 He's a very good gardener. 698 00:33:25,545 --> 00:33:28,881 He can grow things from pieces of sticks. 699 00:33:28,923 --> 00:33:30,925 I thought like, "Oh, here's somebody that, 700 00:33:30,967 --> 00:33:33,011 you know, likes the same things." 701 00:33:33,094 --> 00:33:35,346 ♪ (SOFT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 702 00:33:37,473 --> 00:33:39,726 PAUL: Any kind of spirituality that I have 703 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,020 has to do with nature. 704 00:33:42,103 --> 00:33:43,604 (QUIET CHATTER) 705 00:33:45,648 --> 00:33:48,234 ALLISON: We were very much attracted to 706 00:33:49,027 --> 00:33:50,987 plants and animals of the world, 707 00:33:51,070 --> 00:33:54,282 but particularly around where he is there. 708 00:33:54,323 --> 00:33:57,326 We feed the birds and squirrels. 709 00:33:59,871 --> 00:34:03,041 We've developed quite a lot of wild animals. 710 00:34:06,586 --> 00:34:07,628 (KISSES) 711 00:34:09,130 --> 00:34:10,797 Don't go too much now. 712 00:34:10,882 --> 00:34:13,134 ALLISON: Come on now, sweetie. Come on. 713 00:34:13,217 --> 00:34:14,510 Let's move a little towards me. 714 00:34:14,594 --> 00:34:18,806 I mean, Paul's the kind of person that rescues spiders. 715 00:34:20,224 --> 00:34:22,976 It's like living out in the woods, you know, 716 00:34:23,061 --> 00:34:25,772 even though it's right in the heart of Hollywood. 717 00:34:25,813 --> 00:34:27,940 PAUL: You probably don't even have enough light in here. 718 00:34:27,982 --> 00:34:29,317 Now, jump in. 719 00:34:29,358 --> 00:34:32,487 Warren Montgomery started to work with me 720 00:34:32,527 --> 00:34:35,072 kind of as like an on-set assistant 721 00:34:35,156 --> 00:34:37,824 and he did security. 722 00:34:37,909 --> 00:34:40,578 WARREN MONTGOMERY: I just kind of knew who he was and I wasn't a fan. 723 00:34:41,621 --> 00:34:44,123 I was too macho to be a Pee-wee Herman fan. 724 00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:47,752 I mean, I was young and I was athletic. 725 00:34:47,835 --> 00:34:49,378 I came off strong. 726 00:34:49,462 --> 00:34:51,589 I think Paul liked that. 727 00:34:51,672 --> 00:34:54,425 You're not fighting off women trying to rip his clothes off 728 00:34:54,509 --> 00:34:56,135 like he's Elvis Presley. 729 00:34:56,177 --> 00:34:57,428 Even though I think in his mind, 730 00:34:57,512 --> 00:34:59,972 he felt that that's what was taking place at the time, but... 731 00:35:02,475 --> 00:35:03,726 ALLISON: As time went on, 732 00:35:03,810 --> 00:35:07,021 I would say that I became more like ground control. 733 00:35:08,064 --> 00:35:11,359 In the beginning, it was like me going like, 734 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,195 "Oh, I need to make sure I keep my job." 735 00:35:14,237 --> 00:35:16,280 And then he had to make sure to keep me. 736 00:35:17,323 --> 00:35:19,367 Sometimes, it would be nice to have an assistant 737 00:35:19,450 --> 00:35:21,911 where you say, "Would you go and do this?" 738 00:35:21,994 --> 00:35:23,830 And they go, "Yes, I'll go and do that." 739 00:35:23,871 --> 00:35:27,208 Instead of spinning around and, you know, 740 00:35:27,291 --> 00:35:30,128 giving me a whole bunch of attitude about something. 741 00:35:32,547 --> 00:35:35,383 Allison has worked for me for almost 40 years. 742 00:35:37,260 --> 00:35:39,887 It's in many ways like having a wife. 743 00:35:42,014 --> 00:35:44,016 We were like a surrogate family. 744 00:35:46,978 --> 00:35:50,815 Warren and Allison were like a little bit of a barrier, 745 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,442 not to keep people away, 746 00:35:53,526 --> 00:35:55,486 but to keep people at bay a little bit 747 00:35:55,570 --> 00:35:58,406 or to just keep situations under control. 748 00:35:59,740 --> 00:36:01,742 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 749 00:36:02,910 --> 00:36:04,620 PAUL: At the same time, 750 00:36:04,704 --> 00:36:08,541 I had many, many secretive relationships. 751 00:36:14,213 --> 00:36:17,508 Probably lots of people who are high-profile people who, 752 00:36:17,592 --> 00:36:20,678 like, had something to lose 753 00:36:20,761 --> 00:36:26,017 over being identified as gay may have done the same thing. 754 00:36:26,100 --> 00:36:28,060 Hey, now. Stop it just for a second. 755 00:36:29,312 --> 00:36:31,647 I do remember at the time thinking to myself, 756 00:36:31,731 --> 00:36:34,775 "This will be interesting to see what effect this has." 757 00:36:37,653 --> 00:36:41,073 I was conscious enough to know being closeted 758 00:36:41,115 --> 00:36:43,409 would have some kind of an effect on me. 759 00:36:45,494 --> 00:36:48,456 I just was like, "Okay, put your blinders on. 760 00:36:48,497 --> 00:36:51,709 You're not having any kind of traditional relationship. 761 00:36:51,792 --> 00:36:54,170 You're going to just pursue your career." 762 00:36:54,253 --> 00:36:57,590 And I led an extremely private life. 763 00:37:03,137 --> 00:37:04,680 MATT: Are you starting to trust me? 764 00:37:04,764 --> 00:37:07,850 No. I don't think... I think you're missing the point 765 00:37:07,934 --> 00:37:09,769 if you think I'm gonna start to trust you. 766 00:37:09,810 --> 00:37:12,146 It's not gonna happen. No, I'm that person. 767 00:37:12,188 --> 00:37:13,981 I'm not a trusting person. 768 00:37:14,023 --> 00:37:16,150 So, I don't think I'll ever trust you. 769 00:37:16,234 --> 00:37:17,818 -Ever. Never. -MATT: I don't totally believe you. 770 00:37:17,902 --> 00:37:20,571 I do think there is an element of trust between us. 771 00:37:22,990 --> 00:37:25,409 What do I have to do to prove to you I don't trust you? 772 00:37:25,493 --> 00:37:27,161 (GIGGLES) 773 00:37:27,245 --> 00:37:30,706 You're right. There's a tiny bit. A tiny bit. 774 00:37:30,790 --> 00:37:32,500 I don't want this to go to your head 775 00:37:32,583 --> 00:37:34,001 and I don't want you to feel 776 00:37:34,043 --> 00:37:36,837 in any way, shape or form that I trust you. 777 00:37:36,879 --> 00:37:38,506 MATT: I don't think we would be here 778 00:37:38,589 --> 00:37:40,383 if you didn't have a tiny bit of trust. 779 00:37:41,926 --> 00:37:44,053 You made one documentary I liked, 780 00:37:44,136 --> 00:37:45,721 out of what? Six? 781 00:37:47,056 --> 00:37:50,142 Do I feel like I'm in control of this process 782 00:37:50,184 --> 00:37:51,769 by being interviewed? 783 00:37:51,852 --> 00:37:55,815 Yes and no. I mean, you have the questions. 784 00:37:55,856 --> 00:37:59,026 A lot of the questions you have because of stuff I told you, 785 00:37:59,110 --> 00:38:00,820 so I have control there. 786 00:38:00,861 --> 00:38:07,368 I could pick and choose what to tell you to ask me 787 00:38:07,451 --> 00:38:10,830 or stories to tell you and stories to leave out. 788 00:38:11,789 --> 00:38:14,041 I feel like I'm gonna come out at the other end 789 00:38:14,125 --> 00:38:17,586 of this whole process and be like... (SCOFFS) 790 00:38:17,670 --> 00:38:20,798 "I told everybody, I could have directed this documentary." 791 00:38:24,427 --> 00:38:25,594 At Bonnie's. 792 00:38:26,679 --> 00:38:28,931 All right, then we shall. 793 00:38:29,015 --> 00:38:30,725 I was excited about the possibility 794 00:38:30,766 --> 00:38:32,059 of making another movie. 795 00:38:32,685 --> 00:38:34,603 Top floor, Rex. 796 00:38:36,647 --> 00:38:39,025 On Big Adventure, I feel like 797 00:38:39,066 --> 00:38:42,570 I didn't get recognition for my creative role. 798 00:38:42,653 --> 00:38:45,072 And I wasn't going to let that happen again. 799 00:38:45,114 --> 00:38:47,116 ♪ (QUIRKY MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 800 00:38:47,199 --> 00:38:50,828 PAUL: I was always obsessed with circus movies, 801 00:38:50,911 --> 00:38:52,788 and I was excited about the possibility 802 00:38:52,872 --> 00:38:54,123 of making my own. 803 00:38:55,666 --> 00:38:59,253 Immediately, the circus seemed like a good world 804 00:38:59,337 --> 00:39:00,463 and a good backdrop. 805 00:39:00,546 --> 00:39:03,466 Well, what about this? What if Gina's doing an act? 806 00:39:03,549 --> 00:39:04,592 PAUL: I hired George McGrath 807 00:39:04,675 --> 00:39:06,427 from season one of Pee-wee's Playhouse 808 00:39:06,510 --> 00:39:09,096 to co-write the movie with me. 809 00:39:09,138 --> 00:39:12,391 And we screened a lot of circus movies 810 00:39:12,433 --> 00:39:15,561 and then sat down to try to figure out what was mine. 811 00:39:17,021 --> 00:39:20,941 The circus is rooted in reality 812 00:39:20,983 --> 00:39:24,445 and yet it's a world of make-believe, of fantasy, 813 00:39:24,487 --> 00:39:26,739 of flash and magic. 814 00:39:27,656 --> 00:39:30,618 ♪ (THRILLING MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 815 00:39:37,917 --> 00:39:39,877 -PAUL: Oh! -(LAUGHTER) 816 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,254 -(PAUL MUTTERING) -(INDISTINCT CHATTER) 817 00:39:43,089 --> 00:39:44,632 PAUL: I've had opportunity 818 00:39:44,715 --> 00:39:46,634 after opportunity after opportunity 819 00:39:46,717 --> 00:39:48,177 to just go do my thing. 820 00:39:48,260 --> 00:39:49,637 -(CHEERING) -(APPLAUSE) 821 00:39:49,678 --> 00:39:50,888 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 822 00:39:50,971 --> 00:39:53,808 -♪ (UPLIFTING MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -PAUL: I had made a movie. 823 00:39:53,849 --> 00:39:55,142 I had a hit TV show. 824 00:39:56,268 --> 00:39:58,145 The studio pretty much said, 825 00:39:58,854 --> 00:40:01,315 "Go with God. Do what you want." 826 00:40:03,401 --> 00:40:04,819 CREW: Yeah! 827 00:40:04,902 --> 00:40:07,655 Somebody came forward and started to campaign 828 00:40:07,738 --> 00:40:11,283 to direct the movie, a director named Randal Kleiser, 829 00:40:11,325 --> 00:40:15,037 who was a very talented filmmaker. 830 00:40:15,121 --> 00:40:17,498 He had made a little movie called Grease. 831 00:40:18,874 --> 00:40:21,127 I was officially producing the movie, 832 00:40:21,168 --> 00:40:24,088 which I hadn't been doing on Big Adventure. 833 00:40:25,047 --> 00:40:27,675 And I was very, very involved as a producer. 834 00:40:28,884 --> 00:40:31,011 I am not a very trusting person. 835 00:40:31,095 --> 00:40:33,305 I'm not a very go-with-the-flow kind of person. 836 00:40:33,347 --> 00:40:36,517 I'm like a person who wants to control things. 837 00:40:36,559 --> 00:40:40,354 I asked, "Could I breathe down your neck a little bit, Randal, 838 00:40:40,396 --> 00:40:41,689 while you're directing it?" 839 00:40:42,356 --> 00:40:44,024 And he was open to that idea. 840 00:40:46,026 --> 00:40:47,736 Yeah, it sounds so familiar. 841 00:40:49,488 --> 00:40:53,451 The biggest collaborators of mine from Big Adventure 842 00:40:53,534 --> 00:40:55,953 were not working on the film. 843 00:40:56,036 --> 00:41:00,541 But I wanted it to be fantastic and live up to the expectation 844 00:41:00,583 --> 00:41:02,209 or go beyond that. 845 00:41:02,835 --> 00:41:04,378 ♪ (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 846 00:41:04,462 --> 00:41:06,046 PAUL: I thought, well, maybe I'd go back 847 00:41:06,130 --> 00:41:08,048 and do the Pollyanna thing, 848 00:41:08,090 --> 00:41:11,343 where Pee-wee brings joy 849 00:41:11,385 --> 00:41:14,805 to a town full of people who have lost that. 850 00:41:14,889 --> 00:41:17,224 We told you, we don't want no circus here. 851 00:41:17,266 --> 00:41:19,894 And you showfolk ain't welcome in this town. 852 00:41:19,935 --> 00:41:23,272 -TOWNSPERSON: That's right. -Townspeople! Listen to me. 853 00:41:24,315 --> 00:41:26,233 You are getting very sleepy. 854 00:41:27,776 --> 00:41:30,488 Your eyelids are getting very heavy. 855 00:41:31,071 --> 00:41:33,574 You will enjoy the circus. 856 00:41:36,994 --> 00:41:39,246 A lot of people wrote a lot of funny things 857 00:41:39,288 --> 00:41:44,084 about Pee-wee's relationship to Dottie in Big Adventure. 858 00:41:44,168 --> 00:41:45,419 There's a lot of things about me 859 00:41:45,461 --> 00:41:47,421 you don't know anything about, Dottie. 860 00:41:47,463 --> 00:41:51,592 Things you wouldn't understand. Things you couldn't understand. 861 00:41:51,634 --> 00:41:53,969 Things you shouldn't understand. 862 00:41:54,053 --> 00:41:56,597 PAUL: He doesn't seem like he likes his girlfriend 863 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,432 or seems like he's trying to get away from her 864 00:41:58,516 --> 00:42:00,017 and all different things. 865 00:42:00,100 --> 00:42:02,978 So I thought, "Okay, what's the flip side of that?" 866 00:42:05,397 --> 00:42:07,858 Pee-wee definitely has a big libido 867 00:42:07,942 --> 00:42:09,443 in Big Top Pee-wee. 868 00:42:09,485 --> 00:42:11,362 ♪ (ROMANTIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 869 00:42:14,114 --> 00:42:15,950 PAUL: I decided to really amp up 870 00:42:16,033 --> 00:42:18,035 the romantic side of Pee-wee Herman. 871 00:42:19,286 --> 00:42:22,790 One thing that I was focused on for a while was 872 00:42:22,873 --> 00:42:26,085 Pee-wee's kiss with his leading lady 873 00:42:26,126 --> 00:42:29,421 would be the longest kiss in screen history. 874 00:42:34,677 --> 00:42:37,304 Something that I hoped would be funny, 875 00:42:37,388 --> 00:42:40,224 that it just kept going and going and going. 876 00:42:46,438 --> 00:42:50,150 I had, until this point, had a huge amount of control 877 00:42:50,234 --> 00:42:53,320 and a lack of interference 878 00:42:53,362 --> 00:42:57,866 or input from people I was working with. 879 00:42:59,660 --> 00:43:01,203 GREGG HOMER: There was some wrangling with the studio 880 00:43:01,287 --> 00:43:04,873 over the duration of this painfully long kiss scene. 881 00:43:04,957 --> 00:43:06,333 'Cause he had final cut rights, 882 00:43:06,417 --> 00:43:08,127 they couldn't shorten the kiss scene. 883 00:43:08,168 --> 00:43:09,837 ♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 884 00:43:09,878 --> 00:43:11,338 GREGG: And it created a situation 885 00:43:11,422 --> 00:43:14,300 where he could afford to be arrogant about it. 886 00:43:15,634 --> 00:43:17,469 There was some self-sabotage in it, 887 00:43:17,511 --> 00:43:20,014 with him controlling every element of the film. 888 00:43:22,516 --> 00:43:24,643 PAUL: I mean, I gave in at a certain point. 889 00:43:25,227 --> 00:43:26,812 I was just beside myself 890 00:43:26,854 --> 00:43:29,315 that something I'd worked that hard on 891 00:43:29,356 --> 00:43:32,901 and thought was so good was, you know, just... 892 00:43:33,611 --> 00:43:35,362 It fell out of my reach. 893 00:43:35,446 --> 00:43:36,530 (CROWD CHEERING) 894 00:43:36,572 --> 00:43:39,658 REPORTER: Two of the stars of Big Top Pee-wee, 895 00:43:39,700 --> 00:43:42,036 Mr. Pee-wee Herman and Valeria. 896 00:43:42,119 --> 00:43:43,871 ♪ (MELLOW MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 897 00:43:43,954 --> 00:43:45,998 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 898 00:43:46,874 --> 00:43:48,792 PAUL: So, the movie was completed 899 00:43:48,876 --> 00:43:52,671 and Paramount threw a circus-themed party 900 00:43:52,713 --> 00:43:56,634 for the premiere. And I was sitting at a table, 901 00:43:56,717 --> 00:43:59,887 and all these people that were my friends and acquaintances 902 00:43:59,970 --> 00:44:04,016 and people I'd invited came one by one up to the table. 903 00:44:04,058 --> 00:44:06,101 After the tenth person came up to me and said, 904 00:44:06,185 --> 00:44:08,562 "Wow, the sets were, I mean... 905 00:44:08,646 --> 00:44:11,315 Wow, it was beautiful." I thought... 906 00:44:13,525 --> 00:44:14,902 "People don't like the movie." 907 00:44:14,943 --> 00:44:18,530 I mean, it was like... Hit me like a ton of bricks. 908 00:44:18,572 --> 00:44:19,573 Like, I just... 909 00:44:21,283 --> 00:44:28,290 I... It was not well received and I didn't see that coming. 910 00:44:28,290 --> 00:44:33,879 And it was the first time in my run of success 911 00:44:33,921 --> 00:44:37,591 that I wasn't Midas with the Midas touch. 912 00:44:40,344 --> 00:44:43,097 The Monday after the weekend that it opened, 913 00:44:43,138 --> 00:44:45,140 I drove onto the Paramount lot, 914 00:44:45,224 --> 00:44:48,060 and this sounds like a, you know, made-up story, 915 00:44:48,102 --> 00:44:52,231 but I drove into my parking spot in the executive parking lot 916 00:44:52,272 --> 00:44:56,527 and somebody was painting out my name as I drove in. 917 00:44:57,569 --> 00:45:01,782 And felt horrible and scary and terrible. 918 00:45:01,865 --> 00:45:04,660 This new Pee-wee adventure seems more conventional. 919 00:45:04,743 --> 00:45:06,954 Part whimsy, part circus, part love story. 920 00:45:07,037 --> 00:45:08,455 I felt that he'd lost the magic. 921 00:45:08,539 --> 00:45:10,165 Absolutely lost the magic. 922 00:45:10,249 --> 00:45:11,625 ROGER EBERT: We both voted thumbs down 923 00:45:11,709 --> 00:45:14,461 on Big Top Pee-Wee because we were disappointed 924 00:45:14,503 --> 00:45:17,256 to see Pee-wee's magic diluted by the real world. 925 00:45:19,049 --> 00:45:22,177 PAUL: First review of the movie, "Big Flop Pee-Wee." 926 00:45:22,803 --> 00:45:23,846 (GIGGLES) 927 00:45:25,180 --> 00:45:27,141 I think I went into shock a little bit 928 00:45:27,224 --> 00:45:29,309 and I was really disappointed 929 00:45:29,393 --> 00:45:33,063 and it seemed like a huge failure. 930 00:45:38,569 --> 00:45:41,613 I'm going. Did I mention I was going? 931 00:45:41,655 --> 00:45:43,490 PAUL: What took me out of it 932 00:45:43,574 --> 00:45:47,286 was John Paragon and I sat down and wrote 933 00:45:47,327 --> 00:45:49,288 Pee Wee's Playhouse Christmas Special. 934 00:45:50,164 --> 00:45:51,165 We wrote that quicker 935 00:45:51,206 --> 00:45:52,833 than anything I'd ever written before. 936 00:45:53,792 --> 00:45:57,004 I remember hour by hour and day by day, 937 00:45:57,045 --> 00:45:59,339 it lifting me out of the funk 938 00:45:59,423 --> 00:46:03,427 of my circus movie didn't do what it was supposed to do. 939 00:46:04,344 --> 00:46:06,472 -Christmas! -♪ (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 940 00:46:07,681 --> 00:46:10,392 Hello, everybody. My name's Pee-wee. 941 00:46:10,476 --> 00:46:12,186 What's yours? 942 00:46:12,227 --> 00:46:14,980 Welcome to my special Christmas special. 943 00:46:15,022 --> 00:46:16,857 Starring me, Pee-wee Herman. 944 00:46:16,940 --> 00:46:19,109 ♪ Christmas in the playhouse ♪ 945 00:46:19,193 --> 00:46:21,945 ♪ And we're gonna have A lot of fun ♪ 946 00:46:22,029 --> 00:46:24,907 ♪ Merry Christmas, everybody ♪ 947 00:46:24,990 --> 00:46:27,534 PAUL: I was trying to be throwback-y and be influenced 948 00:46:27,618 --> 00:46:31,163 by every single Christmas special I'd ever seen. 949 00:46:31,205 --> 00:46:32,664 But first, did you bring me 950 00:46:32,706 --> 00:46:34,875 all the presents I asked you for? 951 00:46:34,917 --> 00:46:37,544 PAUL: The guest stars are my favorite people, 952 00:46:37,628 --> 00:46:39,379 and every one of them said yes. 953 00:46:39,421 --> 00:46:42,090 ♪ (PEE-WEE VOCALIZING) ♪ 954 00:46:42,591 --> 00:46:44,009 (CHUCKLES) 955 00:46:44,051 --> 00:46:46,303 Hey, it's Little Richard on ice! 956 00:46:46,804 --> 00:46:47,930 Hi, Pee-wee! 957 00:46:48,514 --> 00:46:51,683 Whoa! (YELPS) 958 00:46:51,725 --> 00:46:53,685 Great gosh almighty! 959 00:46:53,727 --> 00:46:57,064 I had, unbilled, 960 00:46:57,147 --> 00:46:59,566 to this day, that was part of her contract, 961 00:46:59,608 --> 00:47:00,734 "Don't bill me," 962 00:47:02,069 --> 00:47:03,111 Cher. 963 00:47:03,195 --> 00:47:06,156 So, uh, Cher, are you having a nice Christmas so far? 964 00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:07,324 Oh, yeah, Pee-wee. 965 00:47:07,407 --> 00:47:09,076 Christmas is my favorite time of year. 966 00:47:09,159 --> 00:47:11,703 -♪ (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -(ALL SCREAMING) 967 00:47:11,745 --> 00:47:13,455 (SCREAMS, LAUGHS) 968 00:47:14,540 --> 00:47:16,124 ♪ (UPBEAT FESTIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 969 00:47:16,625 --> 00:47:19,419 (LAUGHS) 970 00:47:19,503 --> 00:47:23,090 ♪ Jingle bell, jingle bell Jingle bell rock ♪ 971 00:47:23,173 --> 00:47:26,552 ♪ Jingle bells swing And jingle bells ring... ♪ 972 00:47:26,593 --> 00:47:28,178 Hello, Pee-wee. 973 00:47:28,262 --> 00:47:29,930 ♪ Bushels of fun... ♪ 974 00:47:30,013 --> 00:47:31,557 Hi, Pee-wee. Merry Christmas. 975 00:47:31,598 --> 00:47:32,599 I was just calling to see 976 00:47:32,683 --> 00:47:34,268 if I could be on your Christmas special. 977 00:47:34,309 --> 00:47:35,936 Happy holidays, everybody. 978 00:47:37,104 --> 00:47:39,064 Magic Screen and I are cousins. 979 00:47:39,106 --> 00:47:40,482 Merry Christmas to you. 980 00:47:40,566 --> 00:47:41,942 Merry Christmas, Oprah! 981 00:47:41,984 --> 00:47:45,612 I made a very special dish for you, fruitcake. 982 00:47:45,696 --> 00:47:48,323 Oh, fruitcake, my favorite. 983 00:47:49,408 --> 00:47:50,450 Look, everyone! 984 00:47:52,369 --> 00:47:56,373 A new wing to the playhouse! Made entirely of fruitcakes! 985 00:47:56,456 --> 00:47:59,459 -(CHUCKLES) -Wow! 986 00:47:59,543 --> 00:48:02,838 PAUL: Yes, there is gay subtext in Pee-wee's Playhouse. 987 00:48:02,921 --> 00:48:05,090 Yes, there is. 988 00:48:05,132 --> 00:48:06,967 I'm saying this seriously so you can put some... 989 00:48:07,050 --> 00:48:09,720 (IMITATES DRAMATIC MUSICAL STING) 990 00:48:09,803 --> 00:48:12,014 ...dark music, some sting into it. 991 00:48:12,097 --> 00:48:14,725 ♪ (GROOVY RENDITION OF "THE LITTLE DRUMMER BOY" PLAYING) ♪ 992 00:48:17,519 --> 00:48:23,191 ♪ Come, they told me Pa-rum-pum-pum-pum ♪ 993 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:32,034 ♪ A newborn King to see Pa-rum-pum-pum-pum ♪ 994 00:48:33,827 --> 00:48:40,125 ♪ I played my song for Him Pa-rum-pum-pum-pum ♪ 995 00:48:41,543 --> 00:48:43,712 -♪ Me and my drum ♪ -♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 996 00:48:43,795 --> 00:48:45,339 PAUL: I don't brag about lots of stuff, 997 00:48:45,422 --> 00:48:47,799 but I feel like the Christmas special 998 00:48:47,841 --> 00:48:50,385 is a part of pop culture fame. 999 00:48:50,469 --> 00:48:51,470 PEE-WEE: Welcome back. 1000 00:48:51,511 --> 00:48:53,347 We're just putting the finishing touches 1001 00:48:53,388 --> 00:48:54,848 on the Christmas tree. 1002 00:48:54,932 --> 00:48:59,353 PAUL: I'm enormously proud of it and bask in its gloriousness. 1003 00:48:59,436 --> 00:49:00,729 Why, thank you, Miss Yvonne. 1004 00:49:02,356 --> 00:49:04,191 Hey, Pee-wee, what about that special wish? 1005 00:49:04,274 --> 00:49:05,901 ♪ ("WE WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS" PLAYING) ♪ 1006 00:49:05,984 --> 00:49:08,528 My wish is that there's peace on Earth 1007 00:49:08,570 --> 00:49:11,239 and that everybody has the very merriest 1008 00:49:11,323 --> 00:49:12,824 of Christmases 1009 00:49:12,866 --> 00:49:16,870 and a Happy New Year! 1010 00:49:16,912 --> 00:49:20,499 (ALL CHEERING) 1011 00:49:22,751 --> 00:49:24,503 SANTA CLAUS: Ho-ho-ho! 1012 00:49:26,171 --> 00:49:28,924 -PEE-WEE: Whee! -♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 1013 00:49:31,301 --> 00:49:34,012 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1014 00:49:35,973 --> 00:49:38,225 LAURENCE: By the time I'd get there, Paul would've been in the chair. 1015 00:49:38,266 --> 00:49:39,309 He'd be in the makeup chair, 1016 00:49:39,393 --> 00:49:41,728 and he'd be there for however long. 1017 00:49:41,812 --> 00:49:43,730 But he'd really be napping. 1018 00:49:43,772 --> 00:49:45,399 He'd be catching up on his sleep. 1019 00:49:47,275 --> 00:49:49,736 PAUL: Around this time, CBS ordered the last two seasons 1020 00:49:49,778 --> 00:49:52,239 of Pee-wee's Playhouse, season four and season five, 1021 00:49:52,739 --> 00:49:53,782 together. 1022 00:49:53,865 --> 00:49:57,536 That was a lot of episodes in a short period of time. 1023 00:49:57,577 --> 00:49:59,913 No wonder I was a shell of a person. 1024 00:50:00,706 --> 00:50:02,708 I was working so hard 1025 00:50:02,749 --> 00:50:05,877 that I had no personal life whatsoever. 1026 00:50:07,295 --> 00:50:10,882 It felt very lonely to me and very singular. 1027 00:50:12,050 --> 00:50:14,761 -"For sale." -FLOWERS: Oh, no. 1028 00:50:14,845 --> 00:50:16,805 Is Pee-wee selling us? 1029 00:50:16,888 --> 00:50:21,435 (LAUGHS) Oh, no. Pee-wee would never do that. 1030 00:50:21,518 --> 00:50:24,021 And besides, it was in the playhouse window. 1031 00:50:24,104 --> 00:50:26,857 So Pee-wee must be just selling the playhouse. 1032 00:50:26,940 --> 00:50:29,359 PAUL: We wrote an episode called, "Playhouse for Sale." 1033 00:50:29,443 --> 00:50:31,945 Pee-wee's selling the playhouse? 1034 00:50:32,988 --> 00:50:34,573 And it was the last episode, 1035 00:50:34,614 --> 00:50:36,033 and I knew it was the last episode. 1036 00:50:36,116 --> 00:50:39,786 I didn't feel like at the time it was the last episode ever. 1037 00:50:40,328 --> 00:50:42,247 Um. I just felt like... 1038 00:50:43,498 --> 00:50:44,666 this is coming to an end. 1039 00:50:44,750 --> 00:50:50,172 ♪ It's time to say goodbye Goodbye... ♪ 1040 00:50:50,255 --> 00:50:53,216 PAUL: When I was a little kid, 1041 00:50:53,300 --> 00:50:56,386 my favorite show, Howdy Doody, ended. 1042 00:50:57,471 --> 00:51:01,600 This is my first, like, real dose of reality. 1043 00:51:01,641 --> 00:51:05,812 -♪ Goodbye from us to you ♪ -♪ Goodbye from us to you ♪ 1044 00:51:05,854 --> 00:51:07,147 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 1045 00:51:07,230 --> 00:51:09,066 What kind of a world is this? 1046 00:51:09,149 --> 00:51:12,819 What kind of world would put Howdy Doody off the air? 1047 00:51:12,903 --> 00:51:16,239 You know, what's wrong with everything? 1048 00:51:16,323 --> 00:51:19,826 And I wanted to have something like that. 1049 00:51:19,868 --> 00:51:20,827 I wanted to go out 1050 00:51:20,911 --> 00:51:23,580 with some kind of a beautiful bang. 1051 00:51:23,663 --> 00:51:27,250 Hey! (CHUCKLES) Thanks for watching, everybody. 1052 00:51:27,334 --> 00:51:29,544 Before I go, I would like to say goodbye 1053 00:51:29,628 --> 00:51:32,839 to each and every one of you. (CHUCKLES) 1054 00:51:32,923 --> 00:51:35,342 -(TWINKLING) -Goodbye to you and you. 1055 00:51:35,425 --> 00:51:37,677 PAUL: I loved looking into the camera 1056 00:51:37,761 --> 00:51:39,554 and talking directly to the kids. 1057 00:51:39,638 --> 00:51:41,223 Come closer. 1058 00:51:42,224 --> 00:51:43,350 Closer still. 1059 00:51:44,267 --> 00:51:47,771 Right up into my face. (ECHOES) 1060 00:51:47,854 --> 00:51:51,525 ♪ (MELANCHOLIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1061 00:51:51,608 --> 00:51:58,156 PAUL: I took my job as having a children's show so seriously. 1062 00:52:07,415 --> 00:52:09,459 (INSECTS CHIRPING) 1063 00:52:09,543 --> 00:52:12,420 PAUL: I always thought whatever is interesting you 1064 00:52:12,504 --> 00:52:14,381 is going to reveal itself. 1065 00:52:17,217 --> 00:52:20,137 In a lot of ways, it turned out to be this. 1066 00:52:21,221 --> 00:52:24,891 -Goodnight, everybody. -ALL: Goodnight, Cowboy Curtis. 1067 00:52:24,975 --> 00:52:28,019 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 1068 00:52:31,481 --> 00:52:32,566 CAMERAMAN: Smile at the camera. 1069 00:52:32,649 --> 00:52:34,901 PAUL: I wasn't sick of being Pee-wee Herman. 1070 00:52:34,985 --> 00:52:36,736 I wasn't fed up with it. 1071 00:52:38,113 --> 00:52:40,991 I should have broken it up with a little vacation. 1072 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,245 So, I went home to Florida. 1073 00:52:46,663 --> 00:52:47,956 (PAUL GIGGLING) 1074 00:52:48,039 --> 00:52:51,543 You know, there were six or seven years in a row 1075 00:52:51,585 --> 00:52:55,922 with an additional ten to 15 years prior to that 1076 00:52:55,964 --> 00:52:58,675 of just being obsessed and driven. 1077 00:53:01,386 --> 00:53:04,306 To a very, very large degree, I could control that. 1078 00:53:04,389 --> 00:53:06,850 You know, I had a lot of control in that. 1079 00:53:06,933 --> 00:53:08,768 And then, I didn't. 1080 00:53:09,477 --> 00:53:12,439 (BIRDS CHIRPING) 1081 00:53:18,069 --> 00:53:20,280 ALLISON: It was the morning, 1082 00:53:20,363 --> 00:53:22,490 I was taking care of that garden. 1083 00:53:24,117 --> 00:53:29,789 He called me at his house and was very quiet. 1084 00:53:30,290 --> 00:53:32,125 And he said, 1085 00:53:32,209 --> 00:53:35,128 "I need you to go down the hill... 1086 00:53:36,504 --> 00:53:38,757 to the grocery store 1087 00:53:38,798 --> 00:53:41,218 and call me back from the payphone." 1088 00:53:42,010 --> 00:53:44,262 (CHUCKLES) I was like, "What? 1089 00:53:44,304 --> 00:53:47,474 What do you mean?" And he was like, "Just do it." 1090 00:53:48,808 --> 00:53:50,810 And you know, he was just immediately, 1091 00:53:50,894 --> 00:53:54,147 like, very aware that the story was gonna break quickly. 1092 00:53:54,231 --> 00:53:55,440 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1093 00:53:55,482 --> 00:53:58,151 NEWS ANCHOR 1: In Sarasota, Florida, actor Paul Reubens, 1094 00:53:58,235 --> 00:54:00,820 better known as TV's Pee-wee Herman, 1095 00:54:00,904 --> 00:54:02,822 is free on bail after being charged 1096 00:54:02,906 --> 00:54:04,574 with indecent exposure 1097 00:54:04,658 --> 00:54:06,326 in an adult movie theater. 1098 00:54:06,409 --> 00:54:09,120 CBS announced today that, under the circumstances, 1099 00:54:09,162 --> 00:54:12,374 the network is dropping scheduled reruns of the program 1100 00:54:12,457 --> 00:54:14,167 Pee-wee's Playhouse. 1101 00:54:14,251 --> 00:54:15,835 NEWS ANCHOR 2: Comedian and television star 1102 00:54:15,919 --> 00:54:18,713 Pee-wee Herman spent a couple of hours playing house 1103 00:54:18,797 --> 00:54:20,674 -behind bars today. -(INDISTINCT CHATTER) 1104 00:54:20,715 --> 00:54:23,385 NEWS ANCHOR 2: He's charged with allegedly exposing himself 1105 00:54:23,468 --> 00:54:25,262 inside an adult movie theater. 1106 00:54:25,345 --> 00:54:27,430 The arrest came during a sting operation. 1107 00:54:27,514 --> 00:54:30,058 Officers approached Paul Reubens, he said, 1108 00:54:30,141 --> 00:54:32,560 quoting here, "This is embarrassing." 1109 00:54:32,644 --> 00:54:34,688 The report says, Reubens said he was Pee-wee Herman 1110 00:54:34,771 --> 00:54:36,856 and offered to do the charity benefit. 1111 00:54:36,898 --> 00:54:38,858 The detectives then arrested Reubens. 1112 00:54:38,942 --> 00:54:40,193 BLONDE NEWS ANCHOR: Pee-wee Herman, 1113 00:54:40,277 --> 00:54:42,028 one of the biggest stars among the small fry... 1114 00:54:42,070 --> 00:54:43,780 OFFICER WITH GLASSES: He was dressed as any normal person 1115 00:54:43,863 --> 00:54:44,864 going to a theater 1116 00:54:44,948 --> 00:54:46,700 -for an afternoon of... -(OVERLAPPING CHATTER) 1117 00:54:46,741 --> 00:54:47,826 ...theater enjoyment. 1118 00:54:47,867 --> 00:54:49,369 REPORTER 1: They say, because of the way he looked, 1119 00:54:49,411 --> 00:54:51,997 they had no immediate idea they'd arrested a celebrity. 1120 00:54:52,038 --> 00:54:55,709 OFFICER WITH GLASSES: I actually observed him manipulating his genitalia. 1121 00:54:55,792 --> 00:54:57,544 REPORTER 2: The statement said Reubens is, quote, 1122 00:54:57,627 --> 00:54:58,795 "Emotionally devastated 1123 00:54:58,878 --> 00:55:00,380 by the embarrassment of the situation..." 1124 00:55:00,422 --> 00:55:02,716 CASSANDRA PETERSON: I was with John Paragon. 1125 00:55:02,757 --> 00:55:03,883 We just couldn't believe it. 1126 00:55:03,925 --> 00:55:06,428 And we were feeling very upset 1127 00:55:06,511 --> 00:55:08,763 and panicky about it. I mean, I felt like crying. 1128 00:55:08,847 --> 00:55:10,807 It was-- It was like, 1129 00:55:10,890 --> 00:55:13,184 this is a terrible thing to have happened. 1130 00:55:13,226 --> 00:55:15,478 Herman's lawyer told a newspaper, quote, 1131 00:55:15,562 --> 00:55:18,648 "When that story runs, his career will be over." 1132 00:55:18,732 --> 00:55:21,818 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ 1133 00:55:21,901 --> 00:55:26,239 PAUL: I kept who I was a secret for a really long time. 1134 00:55:26,281 --> 00:55:29,868 And that served me very well as I wanted it to. 1135 00:55:29,909 --> 00:55:32,078 -And then it didn't. -♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 1136 00:55:32,162 --> 00:55:35,123 It really backfired when I got arrested 1137 00:55:35,206 --> 00:55:37,125 and people had never seen a photo of me 1138 00:55:37,208 --> 00:55:38,585 other than Pee-wee Herman, 1139 00:55:38,668 --> 00:55:42,297 and then all of a sudden I had a Charlie Manson mug shot. 1140 00:55:45,008 --> 00:55:50,096 I lost control of my anonymity, and it was devastating. 1141 00:55:50,138 --> 00:55:53,683 ♪ (WISTFUL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1142 00:55:55,769 --> 00:55:57,937 GREGG: This was not a story that could be killed. 1143 00:55:57,979 --> 00:55:59,731 That-- You just had to accept that. 1144 00:56:01,316 --> 00:56:03,401 But he also was insistent from day one 1145 00:56:03,443 --> 00:56:06,613 that he didn't do what they accused him of. 1146 00:56:06,696 --> 00:56:08,531 And that the facts didn't line up 1147 00:56:08,615 --> 00:56:10,116 for what they were saying. 1148 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:11,951 NEWS ANCHOR: Meantime, the actor's publicist 1149 00:56:12,035 --> 00:56:15,121 released a statement completely refuting all allegations. 1150 00:56:15,205 --> 00:56:17,624 Quote, "According to Paul, the facts as stated 1151 00:56:17,707 --> 00:56:19,959 by the vice squad were totally untrue 1152 00:56:20,001 --> 00:56:22,545 and he never exposed himself or engaged in any other 1153 00:56:22,629 --> 00:56:24,964 improper activities," end quote. 1154 00:56:25,048 --> 00:56:28,635 GREGG: Paul's state of mind from the arrest 1155 00:56:28,718 --> 00:56:30,512 was a state of shock. 1156 00:56:30,595 --> 00:56:32,722 And he just wanted somebody to take care of him. 1157 00:56:35,100 --> 00:56:38,478 News trucks were like sitting in front of his parents' house. 1158 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,398 Had to figure out how to get him out of Sarasota 1159 00:56:41,481 --> 00:56:43,358 without being spotted. 1160 00:56:44,651 --> 00:56:46,569 Paul had prosthetic teeth. 1161 00:56:46,653 --> 00:56:48,154 They changed the shape of his mouth, 1162 00:56:48,238 --> 00:56:49,948 so they made him look very different. 1163 00:56:49,989 --> 00:56:52,158 So, with that and glasses, 1164 00:56:52,242 --> 00:56:54,160 and I think we cut all his hair off, 1165 00:56:54,202 --> 00:56:56,371 we got him out of Sarasota. 1166 00:57:03,086 --> 00:57:04,587 ♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪ 1167 00:57:04,671 --> 00:57:08,091 GREGG: Paul was friends with Doris Duke. 1168 00:57:09,217 --> 00:57:12,429 Paul reached out to her personally and said, 1169 00:57:12,512 --> 00:57:14,681 "I really need to hide out for a while." 1170 00:57:14,722 --> 00:57:17,308 -♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -GREGG: She said, "Of course." 1171 00:57:17,350 --> 00:57:20,812 And, you know, we swore everybody to secrecy. 1172 00:57:21,980 --> 00:57:24,858 And we got him to New Jersey, 1173 00:57:24,941 --> 00:57:27,026 where he hid out for a couple of weeks. 1174 00:57:28,445 --> 00:57:30,530 ABBY RUBENFELD: I was calling him, like, every day, 1175 00:57:30,613 --> 00:57:33,074 'cause I was worried he might be suicidal. 1176 00:57:33,158 --> 00:57:35,285 Like, I didn't really know. 1177 00:57:35,368 --> 00:57:38,455 My parents told him that, "We were with you 1178 00:57:38,538 --> 00:57:40,331 and supported you in all the good times. 1179 00:57:40,373 --> 00:57:43,543 Like, we're here for you a hundred percent now, too." 1180 00:57:46,463 --> 00:57:49,048 It's shocking what hideous, 1181 00:57:49,132 --> 00:57:52,969 horrible, mean stuff people say and think about me. 1182 00:57:53,052 --> 00:57:55,263 (IMITATES PEE-WEE) I have the right to an attorney. 1183 00:57:55,346 --> 00:57:57,557 I have the right to remain silent. 1184 00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,643 And what if I did some charity work instead? 1185 00:58:00,727 --> 00:58:02,228 -(CHUCKLES) -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 1186 00:58:02,312 --> 00:58:04,731 Pee-wee Herman was rushed to Cedars-Sinai Hospital today 1187 00:58:04,814 --> 00:58:06,399 after attending a Halloween costume party 1188 00:58:06,483 --> 00:58:10,361 -as Edward Scissorhands. -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 1189 00:58:10,403 --> 00:58:12,906 Pee-wee Herman, I think he should be executed 1190 00:58:12,989 --> 00:58:14,866 simply because he was involved with children. 1191 00:58:14,908 --> 00:58:17,410 I mean, Captain Kangaroo, people forget this man lived 1192 00:58:17,452 --> 00:58:19,954 with a load for, like, many years, many decades. 1193 00:58:20,038 --> 00:58:21,623 You're involved with children's programming. 1194 00:58:21,706 --> 00:58:23,917 There's a certain responsibility involved. 1195 00:58:23,958 --> 00:58:25,376 INTERVIEWEE: Pee-wee Herman, 1196 00:58:25,418 --> 00:58:27,045 people put their trust in him. 1197 00:58:27,086 --> 00:58:29,589 We do not like our children hanging out 1198 00:58:29,631 --> 00:58:32,926 or having anything to do with perverts. 1199 00:58:34,093 --> 00:58:35,887 It's still a gigantic footnote. 1200 00:58:35,929 --> 00:58:37,472 And when people said to me at the time, 1201 00:58:37,555 --> 00:58:39,766 people I work with said to me stuff like, 1202 00:58:39,849 --> 00:58:42,435 "You know, the public has a really short-term memory." 1203 00:58:42,519 --> 00:58:44,437 I turned around in the moment, 1204 00:58:44,479 --> 00:58:46,814 and this is true 30 years later, and said, 1205 00:58:46,898 --> 00:58:49,442 "The public has a memory like a steel trap. 1206 00:58:49,526 --> 00:58:52,487 The memory of the public is like an elephant memory. 1207 00:58:52,570 --> 00:58:56,783 People remember everything, so don't kid me or yourself." 1208 00:58:56,824 --> 00:58:58,785 Like, that's just not how it works. 1209 00:58:58,826 --> 00:59:02,664 And 30 years later, I still feel the effects all the time. 1210 00:59:04,290 --> 00:59:07,126 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1211 00:59:07,919 --> 00:59:09,254 ALLISON: When they finally decided 1212 00:59:09,295 --> 00:59:11,297 that he was gonna fly home, 1213 00:59:11,339 --> 00:59:14,842 we put, like, black plastic over all the windows 1214 00:59:14,926 --> 00:59:18,972 so that there was just no way anybody could look in at all. 1215 00:59:19,013 --> 00:59:21,808 It was sort of almost symbolic of him sort of trying 1216 00:59:21,849 --> 00:59:23,935 to just cocoon a little bit. 1217 00:59:23,977 --> 00:59:25,895 CALLER 1: I just wanted Pee-wee Herman to know 1218 00:59:25,979 --> 00:59:27,814 that no matter what he does in his private life, 1219 00:59:27,897 --> 00:59:30,275 he'll always be number one with all our kids. 1220 00:59:30,316 --> 00:59:33,027 CALLER 2: Hang in there, Pee-wee. We still love you. 1221 00:59:33,111 --> 00:59:35,321 You made a mistake, but so what? 1222 00:59:35,405 --> 00:59:37,323 CALLER 3: I believe in you. Don't give up. 1223 00:59:37,365 --> 00:59:40,827 ALLISON: A lot of people called, and a lot of people wanted to, 1224 00:59:40,868 --> 00:59:44,163 like, give him their best wishes and all that. 1225 00:59:44,205 --> 00:59:45,331 CALLER 4: Pee-wee, hang in there. 1226 00:59:45,415 --> 00:59:48,001 Don't let them run you down. I don't care if you did do it. 1227 00:59:48,084 --> 00:59:50,837 ALLISON: Paul, he probably knows who didn't call, 1228 00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,674 and he probably knows who said harsh things about him. 1229 00:59:54,757 --> 00:59:55,967 (OVERLAPPING CHATTER) 1230 00:59:56,676 --> 00:59:58,678 I think he's just cruel 1231 00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,472 to the people that help him the most. 1232 01:00:01,514 --> 01:00:04,851 And he has some kind of pathological need 1233 01:00:04,934 --> 01:00:07,895 to kill the projects that he's got going for him. 1234 01:00:07,979 --> 01:00:10,023 -(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING) -Now, were you shocked 1235 01:00:10,106 --> 01:00:13,192 when you saw that Pee-wee Herman had been arrested? 1236 01:00:13,276 --> 01:00:16,029 Paul called me, and we had been estranged for-- 1237 01:00:16,112 --> 01:00:18,197 really, since I started Saturday Night Live. 1238 01:00:18,281 --> 01:00:20,491 -HOWARD STERN: Estranged? -Yeah, just not talking. 1239 01:00:20,533 --> 01:00:22,744 -For any particular reason? -PHIL: Um... 1240 01:00:22,827 --> 01:00:24,037 HOWARD: You're at odds with him, aren't you? 1241 01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:25,121 -Yeah. -HOWARD: Why? 1242 01:00:25,204 --> 01:00:26,372 (CLICKS TONGUE) Um... 1243 01:00:26,414 --> 01:00:28,541 Because you felt you helped develop the Pee-wee Playhouse, 1244 01:00:28,583 --> 01:00:30,335 and you never received credit or money for it. 1245 01:00:30,376 --> 01:00:31,753 -Is that correct? -Well, that's part of it. 1246 01:00:31,836 --> 01:00:34,047 It is. You certainly could've, legally. You could've taken him 1247 01:00:34,130 --> 01:00:35,340 -to court though. -Yes, I could have. Yes. 1248 01:00:35,381 --> 01:00:36,883 -HOWARD: But you didn't. -And a lot of people have. 1249 01:00:36,966 --> 01:00:38,217 I know a lot of people have excused it, 1250 01:00:38,301 --> 01:00:39,927 but I still have not excused his behavior. 1251 01:00:40,011 --> 01:00:41,888 Yes, it's deviant behavior. 1252 01:00:42,555 --> 01:00:45,183 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ 1253 01:00:46,309 --> 01:00:48,728 PAUL: I just went through all kinds of hideous, 1254 01:00:48,811 --> 01:00:50,897 horrible feelings. 1255 01:00:52,774 --> 01:00:54,400 I became a different person. 1256 01:00:56,986 --> 01:00:58,988 GREGG: We hired a crisis PR firm, 1257 01:00:59,072 --> 01:01:01,949 and the press really wanted a picture of him in public. 1258 01:01:02,033 --> 01:01:03,660 So the conclusion was, 1259 01:01:03,743 --> 01:01:06,079 let's have him coming out of a restaurant with a date. 1260 01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:10,416 And let's let a couple of choice press photographers know, 1261 01:01:10,500 --> 01:01:13,628 with the understanding nobody's gonna know that it's staged. 1262 01:01:14,629 --> 01:01:16,381 But now, it took all the wind 1263 01:01:16,422 --> 01:01:17,715 out of all the other reporters' sails 1264 01:01:17,757 --> 01:01:20,343 'cause the picture had been had. 1265 01:01:20,426 --> 01:01:24,263 So now, there was how to get this image of his mug shot 1266 01:01:24,305 --> 01:01:27,225 out of the minds of the audience. 1267 01:01:28,976 --> 01:01:30,144 I had this idea 1268 01:01:30,228 --> 01:01:32,188 'cause I knew that the MTV Music Awards were coming up. 1269 01:01:34,315 --> 01:01:37,318 ANNOUNCER: Ladies and gentlemen, MTV is proud to introduce 1270 01:01:37,402 --> 01:01:40,822 someone who has been a friend for a long time. 1271 01:01:40,905 --> 01:01:43,533 -♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ -(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING) 1272 01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,452 (AUDIENCE CHEERING) 1273 01:01:46,494 --> 01:01:48,454 GREGG: And so, I remember being in that press tent. 1274 01:01:48,538 --> 01:01:49,956 And he came out, and those reporters 1275 01:01:49,997 --> 01:01:51,124 were all going like, 1276 01:01:51,165 --> 01:01:53,376 "Is that really him? Is this really happening?" 1277 01:01:53,459 --> 01:01:55,878 (AUDIENCE CHANTING, CHEERING) 1278 01:01:58,089 --> 01:01:59,215 Thanks. 1279 01:02:01,551 --> 01:02:02,635 Thank you. 1280 01:02:04,262 --> 01:02:07,473 Thanks, thanks. (CHUCKLES) 1281 01:02:08,725 --> 01:02:11,018 Thanks. Thank you! 1282 01:02:14,147 --> 01:02:17,650 Test. Test. (GRUNTS) 1283 01:02:17,692 --> 01:02:20,319 (CROWD CHEERING, APPLAUDING) 1284 01:02:22,655 --> 01:02:25,032 Thank you very much. 1285 01:02:25,116 --> 01:02:27,827 AUDIENCE: (CHANTING) Pee-wee! Pee-wee! Pee-wee! 1286 01:02:32,707 --> 01:02:33,791 Thank you. 1287 01:02:35,668 --> 01:02:36,836 Thank you. 1288 01:02:38,671 --> 01:02:40,465 Heard any good jokes lately? 1289 01:02:40,506 --> 01:02:43,509 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING, CHEERING) 1290 01:02:43,551 --> 01:02:45,636 GREGG: The audience at the MTV Awards 1291 01:02:45,678 --> 01:02:48,347 really didn't give a damn about him being arrested. 1292 01:02:48,389 --> 01:02:50,516 They cared about his creative genius. 1293 01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,186 -♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -CROWD: (CHANTING) Pee-wee! 1294 01:02:53,269 --> 01:02:55,480 -Pee-wee! Pee-wee! -REPORTER: Others are sticking by Pee-wee. 1295 01:02:55,521 --> 01:02:57,940 These folks gathered in front of CBS Television 1296 01:02:58,024 --> 01:03:00,651 in Los Angeles to protest the network's decision 1297 01:03:00,693 --> 01:03:04,113 to pull Pee-wee's Playhouse off the Saturday morning schedule. 1298 01:03:04,197 --> 01:03:05,990 Free Pee-wee! 1299 01:03:06,032 --> 01:03:07,700 BYSTANDER: Oh, the media has crucified him, 1300 01:03:07,784 --> 01:03:09,869 and CBS, these spineless jellyfish, 1301 01:03:09,911 --> 01:03:11,329 have dropped him 1302 01:03:11,370 --> 01:03:13,039 before he's been proven guilty of anything. 1303 01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:14,540 CROWD: Pee-wee! 1304 01:03:14,582 --> 01:03:17,460 ALLISON: People really came out to support Paul. 1305 01:03:17,543 --> 01:03:20,087 There were protests all over the country. 1306 01:03:20,171 --> 01:03:21,589 REPORTER 1: Pee-wee Herman also has 1307 01:03:21,672 --> 01:03:24,050 an adult cult following, but they know it is unlikely 1308 01:03:24,133 --> 01:03:26,385 that this demonstration will change anything. 1309 01:03:26,469 --> 01:03:29,555 ANNOUNCER: How many of you masturbated in the last week? 1310 01:03:29,639 --> 01:03:32,892 (CROWD CHEERING, APPLAUDING) 1311 01:03:32,975 --> 01:03:34,602 REPORTER 2: This is not to condone 1312 01:03:34,685 --> 01:03:36,270 what he may have done, but it's not exactly 1313 01:03:36,354 --> 01:03:37,730 the crime of the century either. 1314 01:03:37,814 --> 01:03:40,149 Allegedly, the guy walked into a dirty movie house, 1315 01:03:40,233 --> 01:03:42,902 exposed, and then, quote, "Manipulated himself." 1316 01:03:42,944 --> 01:03:45,363 Do you think anybody in a joint like that was shocked by it? 1317 01:03:45,404 --> 01:03:46,989 There's wilder stuff up on the screen. 1318 01:03:48,282 --> 01:03:49,826 GREGG: The goal for Paul was to avoid 1319 01:03:49,909 --> 01:03:51,369 going through the pain of a trial. 1320 01:03:51,410 --> 01:03:52,620 There was no question in the world 1321 01:03:52,703 --> 01:03:54,914 -that he would have beat this. -♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 1322 01:03:54,956 --> 01:03:56,415 GREGG: It just drags the story out, 1323 01:03:56,499 --> 01:03:58,543 and we just wanted it done. 1324 01:03:58,584 --> 01:04:02,129 So, the best we were gonna do was a no-contest plea. 1325 01:04:03,381 --> 01:04:06,592 Actor Paul Reubens has agreed to pay a 50-dollar fine 1326 01:04:06,676 --> 01:04:09,470 and make an anti-drug commercial as part of a plea bargain 1327 01:04:09,554 --> 01:04:11,472 on indecent exposure charges. 1328 01:04:11,556 --> 01:04:13,850 He appeared in court today at a brief hearing. 1329 01:04:13,933 --> 01:04:17,103 Reubens is best known for his role as Pee-wee Herman. 1330 01:04:17,186 --> 01:04:20,189 He was arrested last July and accused of exposing himself 1331 01:04:20,273 --> 01:04:21,774 in an X-rated theater. 1332 01:04:21,816 --> 01:04:24,443 He pleaded no contest to the charges. 1333 01:04:24,527 --> 01:04:27,780 JUDGE GOLDMAN: At this time, Mr. Reubens, I will ask you... 1334 01:04:27,864 --> 01:04:30,658 if you understand the plea called for the acknowledgement 1335 01:04:30,741 --> 01:04:32,326 and waiver of rights that you have signed. 1336 01:04:32,410 --> 01:04:33,536 Yes. 1337 01:04:33,619 --> 01:04:35,121 JUDGE GOLDMAN: Do you understand you give up all your rights 1338 01:04:35,204 --> 01:04:36,581 in this waiver of rights form, 1339 01:04:36,622 --> 01:04:38,624 -including the right to a trial? -Yes. 1340 01:04:38,666 --> 01:04:40,751 JUDGE: Did your attorneys, Mr. Dresnick and Mr. Gerstein, 1341 01:04:40,793 --> 01:04:42,962 -explain everything to you, sir? -Yes. 1342 01:04:43,045 --> 01:04:44,255 JUDGE GOLDMAN: Do you have any questions? 1343 01:04:44,297 --> 01:04:45,715 -No. -JUDGE GOLDMAN: All right. 1344 01:04:45,798 --> 01:04:47,675 Then I'll ask you at this time how you plead. 1345 01:04:49,010 --> 01:04:51,679 -(INDISTINCT CHATTER) -He will plead no contest, your Honor. 1346 01:04:51,762 --> 01:04:53,139 JUDGE: All right. 1347 01:04:53,222 --> 01:04:56,809 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYS, FADES) ♪ 1348 01:04:56,893 --> 01:04:59,186 My biggest fear is, 1349 01:04:59,270 --> 01:05:01,898 and where I think is, um... 1350 01:05:03,065 --> 01:05:04,650 (CLICKS TONGUE) 1351 01:05:04,734 --> 01:05:07,945 ...wherein lies the rub, no pun intended... 1352 01:05:09,488 --> 01:05:11,824 is how do I come off in this narrative 1353 01:05:11,866 --> 01:05:14,493 and what the goal is for me in this 1354 01:05:14,577 --> 01:05:17,246 and not come off like a victim in some way? 1355 01:05:17,330 --> 01:05:20,291 You know? Like, I feel like 1356 01:05:20,333 --> 01:05:25,338 it's very easy to turn my story 1357 01:05:25,421 --> 01:05:31,177 into "I'm a victim" in some way, or I'm, you know, 1358 01:05:31,218 --> 01:05:34,513 the man behind the mask, the tears of a clown. 1359 01:05:34,597 --> 01:05:37,642 I mean, I know a lot of what it is, 1360 01:05:37,683 --> 01:05:40,728 and I don't-- I rebel against it. 1361 01:05:40,811 --> 01:05:42,563 I don't want it to be that. 1362 01:05:42,647 --> 01:05:45,816 I'm gonna try to figure out some way to 1363 01:05:46,734 --> 01:05:48,694 rise up above that in the same way 1364 01:05:48,736 --> 01:05:50,363 that I feel like I've been forced 1365 01:05:50,404 --> 01:05:53,866 and had to kind of rise up above that 1366 01:05:53,908 --> 01:05:56,202 in, you know, reality. 1367 01:05:58,621 --> 01:06:02,166 -(INDISTINCT CHATTER) -(PAUL CHUCKLES) 1368 01:06:03,876 --> 01:06:07,213 PAUL: Oh God, she's really beautiful. 1369 01:06:07,296 --> 01:06:08,422 She's gorgeous. 1370 01:06:08,506 --> 01:06:10,007 -Thanks. Aw. -(COOS) 1371 01:06:10,925 --> 01:06:12,551 ALLISON: Elida was born. 1372 01:06:12,635 --> 01:06:14,053 (COOS) 1373 01:06:14,095 --> 01:06:16,263 ALLISON: She would come to work with me every day. 1374 01:06:16,347 --> 01:06:18,015 (BABBLES) 1375 01:06:20,142 --> 01:06:22,979 ALLISON: That was actually a really nice thing, 1376 01:06:23,062 --> 01:06:25,564 I think, for Paul because he was ready to start 1377 01:06:25,606 --> 01:06:28,734 to, like, open up a little bit more, 1378 01:06:28,776 --> 01:06:30,611 to kind of get his mind off of things 1379 01:06:30,695 --> 01:06:32,571 and to sort of move on. 1380 01:06:32,655 --> 01:06:37,535 -(LAUGHS, VOCALIZES) -(PAUL LAUGHING) 1381 01:06:38,703 --> 01:06:40,955 DEBI MAZAR: I remember the night that I met Paul. 1382 01:06:41,038 --> 01:06:44,875 We had mutual friends. I was a huge, huge fan of his. 1383 01:06:44,917 --> 01:06:47,086 -♪ (SOFT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -(BIRDS CHIRPING) 1384 01:06:47,169 --> 01:06:48,754 DEBI: It was after his arrest, 1385 01:06:48,796 --> 01:06:53,759 and the weight of the situation was so heavy. 1386 01:06:54,802 --> 01:06:57,096 He was damaged. He was broken. 1387 01:06:57,179 --> 01:06:59,765 It was like a bird that got hit by a truck. 1388 01:07:00,933 --> 01:07:03,269 He couldn't go out of the house for a minute, 1389 01:07:03,352 --> 01:07:06,939 and being reclusive, it was often dark. 1390 01:07:06,981 --> 01:07:09,692 He was sleeping weird hours. 1391 01:07:09,775 --> 01:07:12,278 I'd come over to the house, open up the curtains, 1392 01:07:12,319 --> 01:07:14,780 get some fresh air. 1393 01:07:14,822 --> 01:07:16,615 I couldn't really make my way through the house. 1394 01:07:16,699 --> 01:07:17,742 It was packed. 1395 01:07:19,368 --> 01:07:22,621 I encouraged him to get out because, you know, 1396 01:07:22,705 --> 01:07:24,582 as someone with so much creativity, 1397 01:07:24,623 --> 01:07:26,292 if they don't work, they die. 1398 01:07:28,127 --> 01:07:29,211 PAUL: Coco. 1399 01:07:29,295 --> 01:07:31,797 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 1400 01:07:31,881 --> 01:07:33,966 DAVID ARQUETTE: Before Buffy the Vampire Slayer, 1401 01:07:34,008 --> 01:07:35,342 we just kind of clicked. 1402 01:07:36,761 --> 01:07:38,929 Since it was the first film that he was gonna do 1403 01:07:38,971 --> 01:07:41,390 after his arrest, he had to put it in his contract 1404 01:07:41,474 --> 01:07:45,352 that he could look as much like his mugshot as possible. 1405 01:07:45,436 --> 01:07:48,481 SPEAKER: What are you, some kind of weirdo or something? Huh? 1406 01:07:48,564 --> 01:07:51,233 DAVID: It's cool to see him sort of, like, you know, 1407 01:07:51,317 --> 01:07:52,943 protect himself that way. 1408 01:07:54,487 --> 01:07:55,988 (GROWLS) 1409 01:07:56,781 --> 01:07:58,491 You ruined my new jacket. 1410 01:07:59,825 --> 01:08:01,327 Kill him a lot. 1411 01:08:01,410 --> 01:08:03,370 -(CHUCKLES) -♪ (OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1412 01:08:03,454 --> 01:08:06,624 -(LAUGHS) -(GROWLS) 1413 01:08:07,541 --> 01:08:08,959 (GRUNTS) 1414 01:08:09,001 --> 01:08:10,669 DAVID: When Paul turned me into a vampire, 1415 01:08:10,753 --> 01:08:12,797 it really does bond you for life. 1416 01:08:12,838 --> 01:08:14,340 We've always had this connection. 1417 01:08:14,423 --> 01:08:18,511 We're kind of, you know, we're bond in eternity. 1418 01:08:18,594 --> 01:08:20,679 -(LAUGHS) -♪ (WHIMSICAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1419 01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,974 Document this whole situation. 1420 01:08:25,975 --> 01:08:28,687 This is the kind of shit that comes back to haunt you. 1421 01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:34,944 Oh my God, I can't believe we're video... Are we videoing? 1422 01:08:38,072 --> 01:08:40,533 DEBI: He just needed, like, his family. 1423 01:08:40,573 --> 01:08:41,867 His, like, you know, 1424 01:08:41,951 --> 01:08:43,828 his second family to come around. 1425 01:08:45,246 --> 01:08:47,413 He started slowly seeing people. 1426 01:08:49,125 --> 01:08:51,502 He started laughing again. It was great. 1427 01:08:53,796 --> 01:08:54,880 PAUL: Go! 1428 01:08:57,299 --> 01:08:58,843 Excellent. 1429 01:09:00,636 --> 01:09:04,140 But I don't see any synchronized swimming. 1430 01:09:04,849 --> 01:09:06,267 Film, Paul. 1431 01:09:09,395 --> 01:09:11,689 -Look at my pants. -PAUL: ...any kids or anything. 1432 01:09:11,729 --> 01:09:14,066 DAVID: ♪ Look at my pants ♪ 1433 01:09:14,108 --> 01:09:15,317 ♪ ("JUNGLE DRUMS" BY MARTIN DENNY PLAYING) ♪ 1434 01:09:15,401 --> 01:09:17,069 DAVID: We started going to these thrift stores 1435 01:09:17,153 --> 01:09:19,738 and collectible places and swap meets... 1436 01:09:19,779 --> 01:09:21,240 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 1437 01:09:21,282 --> 01:09:25,035 ...and just sort of expanding my knowledge on things. 1438 01:09:27,037 --> 01:09:28,622 I've always tried to encourage him of doing, 1439 01:09:28,706 --> 01:09:32,251 like, a museum 'cause he's got all this incredible stuff. 1440 01:09:32,292 --> 01:09:35,546 ♪ (SINGERS VOCALIZING) ♪ 1441 01:09:35,587 --> 01:09:38,256 DAVID: The collecting really is at the core 1442 01:09:38,340 --> 01:09:41,760 of sort of things he loves and who he is. 1443 01:09:49,393 --> 01:09:52,270 DEBI: The more time we all spent together, 1444 01:09:52,354 --> 01:09:53,647 the happier he got. 1445 01:09:54,523 --> 01:09:56,358 He became like Paul again. 1446 01:09:56,859 --> 01:09:58,569 ♪ (SONG FADES) ♪ 1447 01:09:58,611 --> 01:10:01,322 My first guest, best known, of course, as Pee-wee Herman. 1448 01:10:01,405 --> 01:10:03,240 This is his first talk show appearance ever 1449 01:10:03,282 --> 01:10:04,450 as himself. 1450 01:10:04,533 --> 01:10:07,494 -Please welcome Paul Reubens. -(AUDIENCE CHEERING, APPLAUDING) 1451 01:10:07,578 --> 01:10:10,206 ♪ (ROCK MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1452 01:10:11,457 --> 01:10:12,708 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 1453 01:10:13,959 --> 01:10:16,170 -♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ -Well, thanks for coming. 1454 01:10:17,046 --> 01:10:19,673 Now, uh... (HESITATES) Are you-- 1455 01:10:19,757 --> 01:10:21,342 You usually come on, or you have come on 1456 01:10:21,425 --> 01:10:22,509 in the past as Pee-wee. 1457 01:10:22,593 --> 01:10:23,802 Are you a little nervous? 1458 01:10:25,888 --> 01:10:27,765 -JAY LENO: Oh. -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 1459 01:10:27,806 --> 01:10:29,225 JAY: Oh, you're not nervous. 1460 01:10:30,351 --> 01:10:32,478 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 1461 01:10:32,561 --> 01:10:34,313 Uh... 1462 01:10:34,396 --> 01:10:36,523 Are you gonna talk at all tonight, do you think? 1463 01:10:38,442 --> 01:10:40,653 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 1464 01:10:40,736 --> 01:10:42,363 Now, see, people want to know what you're like, 1465 01:10:42,446 --> 01:10:44,657 so you have to-- you have to speak. 1466 01:10:44,740 --> 01:10:45,991 (IN PEE-WEE'S VOICE) Okay. 1467 01:10:46,033 --> 01:10:49,036 No, that's very good. That's what we call a beginning. 1468 01:10:49,119 --> 01:10:51,247 Now, that sounded like Pee-wee, though. 1469 01:10:51,330 --> 01:10:52,498 It did? 1470 01:10:52,539 --> 01:10:54,833 See, that sounds like Pee-wee. That doesn't sound like Paul. 1471 01:10:54,875 --> 01:10:57,169 (IN NORMAL VOICE) No, that's-- This is my real voice. 1472 01:10:57,211 --> 01:10:59,213 -JAY: Ooh, very-- Oh. -(AUDIENCE CHEERING) 1473 01:10:59,296 --> 01:11:00,714 DEBI: Paul had not gotten attention 1474 01:11:00,798 --> 01:11:03,592 for playing another role that wasn't Pee-wee Herman. 1475 01:11:03,676 --> 01:11:05,970 ♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1476 01:11:06,011 --> 01:11:09,431 DEBI: So, this was a defining moment. 1477 01:11:11,267 --> 01:11:13,686 Come on, faster, faster! 1478 01:11:13,769 --> 01:11:15,896 Okay, Andrew, time to die. 1479 01:11:15,980 --> 01:11:18,190 Good idea, Miss Brown. A suicide pact. 1480 01:11:18,274 --> 01:11:20,359 -Here, rip out my throat. -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 1481 01:11:20,442 --> 01:11:22,361 -What are you talking about? -Just do it! 1482 01:11:22,444 --> 01:11:25,197 ♪ ("PLANET CLAIRE" BY THE B-52'S PLAYING) ♪ 1483 01:11:26,365 --> 01:11:28,450 DEBI: Paul was being a creative person 1484 01:11:28,534 --> 01:11:29,702 and being in Hollywood. 1485 01:11:29,785 --> 01:11:31,370 I'm a superhero too... 1486 01:11:31,453 --> 01:11:33,205 DEBI: And it was great. 1487 01:11:33,289 --> 01:11:35,708 I remember him being fit for wigs, 1488 01:11:36,583 --> 01:11:38,877 creating a whole look. 1489 01:11:38,919 --> 01:11:41,046 -Please welcome Paul Reubens. -(AUDIENCE CHEERING, APPLAUDING) 1490 01:11:41,130 --> 01:11:44,049 DEBI: He developed, you know, different characters. 1491 01:11:44,133 --> 01:11:45,301 (CONAN O'BRIEN LAUGHING) 1492 01:11:45,384 --> 01:11:48,220 DEBI: He was able to hide behind, not Pee-wee, 1493 01:11:48,304 --> 01:11:51,724 but throw himself into something completely new. 1494 01:11:51,807 --> 01:11:54,935 -(SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY) -(AUDIENCE CHEERING, APPLAUDING) 1495 01:11:55,686 --> 01:11:57,396 (CONAN LAUGHING) 1496 01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:58,564 Barbie! 1497 01:12:00,232 --> 01:12:01,275 -Mwah! -(CHUCKLES) 1498 01:12:01,358 --> 01:12:02,693 Maria. 1499 01:12:06,113 --> 01:12:09,616 -George. -Barbie, he is yummy. 1500 01:12:09,700 --> 01:12:11,618 He looks just like a Ken doll. 1501 01:12:11,702 --> 01:12:16,874 (GASPS) Ken and Barbie. Oh my God, it is so perfect. 1502 01:12:16,915 --> 01:12:18,334 ♪ (PERKY MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1503 01:12:18,417 --> 01:12:20,627 DEBI: I went to the premiere of Blow with Paul. 1504 01:12:20,711 --> 01:12:22,087 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 1505 01:12:22,171 --> 01:12:24,423 DEBI: And finally, he was confident. 1506 01:12:25,924 --> 01:12:27,593 I mean, everyone was there. 1507 01:12:27,634 --> 01:12:29,970 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 1508 01:12:30,054 --> 01:12:33,349 DEBI: It was Hollywood. It was big, and Paul was back. 1509 01:12:34,308 --> 01:12:35,434 You're getting great reviews 1510 01:12:35,517 --> 01:12:36,518 -for this movie, Blow. -Yeah. 1511 01:12:36,602 --> 01:12:39,021 -People are very excited about-- -The movie is great. 1512 01:12:39,104 --> 01:12:40,439 -It's really good. -And in it, you play, 1513 01:12:40,522 --> 01:12:42,775 it's an interesting character, bisexual hairdresser. 1514 01:12:42,858 --> 01:12:44,485 -Mm-hmm. -Did you-- Is that a role 1515 01:12:44,568 --> 01:12:47,071 you gotta research in some way, or no? 1516 01:12:47,112 --> 01:12:50,074 Um, I knew how to cut hair a little bit. 1517 01:12:50,115 --> 01:12:52,534 -CONAN: Right. -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 1518 01:12:53,285 --> 01:12:56,330 ♪ (MELLOW MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1519 01:12:56,413 --> 01:12:58,207 DEBI: Paul and I, 1520 01:12:58,290 --> 01:13:02,127 like, were consistently together for a couple of years. 1521 01:13:03,295 --> 01:13:06,340 So I think it started raising some eyebrows. 1522 01:13:07,716 --> 01:13:09,301 I left it always ambiguous 1523 01:13:09,385 --> 01:13:12,805 because I like to keep people guessing. 1524 01:13:12,888 --> 01:13:15,099 I like the idea of mystery. 1525 01:13:16,433 --> 01:13:17,976 MARC BALET: We're following Paul... 1526 01:13:19,436 --> 01:13:21,188 while he's putting his-- There he is. 1527 01:13:22,523 --> 01:13:23,565 You look damn good, 1528 01:13:23,649 --> 01:13:25,150 I'll tell you. (SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY) 1529 01:13:25,192 --> 01:13:27,986 -Here's my 'mani. -MARC: Let me get back. 1530 01:13:28,070 --> 01:13:30,489 DEBI: I mean, look, in old Hollywood, 1531 01:13:30,572 --> 01:13:33,826 people were set up to date. 1532 01:13:33,909 --> 01:13:35,869 It was like an arranged marriage. 1533 01:13:37,246 --> 01:13:39,289 And with Paul, he was my boyfriend. 1534 01:13:39,331 --> 01:13:40,999 And I know that, like, people might say, 1535 01:13:41,041 --> 01:13:43,335 "Well, you know, like, well, he was gay." 1536 01:13:43,794 --> 01:13:44,962 Well, so what? 1537 01:13:46,505 --> 01:13:50,843 I mean, I grew up in the life, so to speak. 1538 01:13:50,926 --> 01:13:55,514 So, for me, like, I never really had to put a label on anything 1539 01:13:55,597 --> 01:13:57,057 because nobody else did. 1540 01:13:58,434 --> 01:14:02,688 One day, he just gave me, like, a friendship ring, you know, 1541 01:14:02,729 --> 01:14:04,648 a boyfriend-girlfriend ring. 1542 01:14:05,566 --> 01:14:06,567 It was, like, you know, 1543 01:14:06,650 --> 01:14:08,026 literally from a Cracker Jack box. 1544 01:14:09,528 --> 01:14:12,364 We knew that in moving forward, 1545 01:14:12,448 --> 01:14:14,658 we'd always be there for each other. 1546 01:14:19,538 --> 01:14:21,415 -PAUL: Look at her through here. -♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪ 1547 01:14:21,498 --> 01:14:23,041 (CHUCKLES) 1548 01:14:23,125 --> 01:14:26,545 ALLISON: About ten years passed from when he was arrested. 1549 01:14:26,587 --> 01:14:28,213 God, that thing is so small. 1550 01:14:28,964 --> 01:14:30,257 Okay, okay, okay. 1551 01:14:30,340 --> 01:14:31,884 ♪ ("THIS TRAIN DON'T STOP THERE ANYMORE" BY ELTON JOHN PLAYING) ♪ 1552 01:14:31,925 --> 01:14:34,553 ♪ This train don't stop ♪ 1553 01:14:35,888 --> 01:14:39,600 ♪ This train don't stop ♪ 1554 01:14:39,683 --> 01:14:42,394 ALLISON: Paul was shooting the Elton John video. 1555 01:14:42,478 --> 01:14:44,021 ♪ (SONG FADES) ♪ 1556 01:14:44,062 --> 01:14:46,732 ALLISON: And so, I just thought it was like a normal day. 1557 01:14:46,773 --> 01:14:48,442 -♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -ALLISON: And all of a sudden, 1558 01:14:48,525 --> 01:14:50,486 we got a call from the neighbors saying, 1559 01:14:50,569 --> 01:14:54,281 like, "There's police driving up to the house." 1560 01:14:54,364 --> 01:14:57,367 And there were probably 25 officers in the house. 1561 01:14:58,494 --> 01:14:59,578 I was petrified. 1562 01:14:59,661 --> 01:15:02,623 I didn't know anything about any of it. 1563 01:15:02,706 --> 01:15:05,209 I was just like, "Oh my God. Like, what's happening?" 1564 01:15:05,250 --> 01:15:07,294 The actor better known as Pee-wee Herman 1565 01:15:07,377 --> 01:15:08,795 is being investigated tonight 1566 01:15:08,879 --> 01:15:11,924 after Los Angeles Police confiscated his art collection. 1567 01:15:11,965 --> 01:15:14,051 CBS News' Mark Coogan live in the newsroom 1568 01:15:14,092 --> 01:15:15,594 with the latest on this story. Mark? 1569 01:15:15,677 --> 01:15:18,597 Harold, the issue here is alleged child pornography. 1570 01:15:18,639 --> 01:15:19,765 Acting on a complaint 1571 01:15:19,848 --> 01:15:21,600 from a former Reubens acquaintance, 1572 01:15:21,642 --> 01:15:23,685 LA Police searched Reubens's Hollywood home. 1573 01:15:23,769 --> 01:15:28,232 They reportedly took away boxes of erotic videos and pictures. 1574 01:15:28,273 --> 01:15:32,694 KELLY BUSH NOVAK: I got a call from Paul and he told me 1575 01:15:32,778 --> 01:15:34,446 it absolutely wasn't true. 1576 01:15:35,572 --> 01:15:38,158 He knew Jeffrey Jones, 1577 01:15:38,242 --> 01:15:42,538 and Jeffrey Jones was being accused of improprieties. 1578 01:15:43,413 --> 01:15:46,625 And that person who accused him... 1579 01:15:47,709 --> 01:15:51,630 had been to Paul's house with Jeffrey and other people. 1580 01:15:53,090 --> 01:15:55,425 And that person accused Paul 1581 01:15:55,467 --> 01:15:57,386 of possession of child pornography. 1582 01:15:58,387 --> 01:15:59,972 And then, of course, the raid happened 1583 01:16:00,055 --> 01:16:01,431 as a result of that. 1584 01:16:03,058 --> 01:16:05,185 I asked him straight out, like, 1585 01:16:05,269 --> 01:16:07,854 "What the fuck's going on?" You know, "What happened?" 1586 01:16:07,938 --> 01:16:11,316 You know, I got all the, like, clear answers. 1587 01:16:11,358 --> 01:16:14,278 They found vintage homoerotic art, 1588 01:16:14,319 --> 01:16:16,113 but it's, like, you're gonna, like, 1589 01:16:16,154 --> 01:16:18,365 ruin this guy's life for art like that? 1590 01:16:20,242 --> 01:16:24,162 I immediately went to Paul's home in Hollywood 1591 01:16:24,246 --> 01:16:28,625 to directly communicate with law enforcement. 1592 01:16:29,751 --> 01:16:32,754 It was an extraordinary and unusual thing 1593 01:16:32,838 --> 01:16:34,089 to participate in... 1594 01:16:35,591 --> 01:16:40,554 mainly because Paul's residence was also, in many ways, 1595 01:16:40,637 --> 01:16:41,847 like a museum. 1596 01:16:42,848 --> 01:16:47,311 He had extraordinary collections of things, 1597 01:16:47,352 --> 01:16:50,606 including materials that the police decided 1598 01:16:50,689 --> 01:16:52,232 they wanted to seize. 1599 01:16:53,483 --> 01:16:55,861 And these photographic collections 1600 01:16:55,944 --> 01:16:59,698 of early gay erotica, 1601 01:16:59,740 --> 01:17:05,871 including literally hundreds of thousands of old photographs 1602 01:17:05,912 --> 01:17:09,166 and old eight-millimeter film. 1603 01:17:12,794 --> 01:17:17,049 Some of these archival boxes had not even been opened. 1604 01:17:17,090 --> 01:17:19,593 Throughout the execution of the search, 1605 01:17:19,676 --> 01:17:23,388 there was no indication that this was material that Paul 1606 01:17:23,472 --> 01:17:26,058 regularly accessed or reviewed. 1607 01:17:27,768 --> 01:17:31,063 KELLY: Shortly thereafter, we found ourselves 1608 01:17:31,104 --> 01:17:33,065 getting a call from the Enquirer. 1609 01:17:34,316 --> 01:17:37,736 A story had been leaked to them about the raid by the LAPD. 1610 01:17:37,778 --> 01:17:39,237 NEWS ANCHOR 1: Now, actor Paul Reubens 1611 01:17:39,279 --> 01:17:40,656 is the subject of an investigation 1612 01:17:40,739 --> 01:17:42,908 into alleged child pornography. 1613 01:17:42,991 --> 01:17:46,370 The investigation is ongoing. No charges have been filed, 1614 01:17:46,411 --> 01:17:47,579 and the actor's representative 1615 01:17:47,621 --> 01:17:49,623 is condemning the entire business. 1616 01:17:51,208 --> 01:17:54,586 BLAIR BERK: I could find the exact collections 1617 01:17:54,628 --> 01:17:57,547 in some of the biggest universities in the country 1618 01:17:57,589 --> 01:18:00,676 in their LGBT archives. 1619 01:18:02,678 --> 01:18:07,099 I had defended folks in child pornography cases, 1620 01:18:07,140 --> 01:18:09,726 and this just was not child pornography. 1621 01:18:12,771 --> 01:18:13,980 NEWS ANCHOR 2: ...Pee-wee Herman's house. 1622 01:18:14,064 --> 01:18:16,942 ET broke the story. Now, we have new details. 1623 01:18:17,025 --> 01:18:18,652 KELLY: The press coverage about this case 1624 01:18:18,735 --> 01:18:20,946 -was not that extensive. -(SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY) 1625 01:18:21,029 --> 01:18:23,198 KELLY: We were asking people to wait 1626 01:18:23,281 --> 01:18:24,866 for the results of the case... 1627 01:18:24,950 --> 01:18:27,244 -...know as Pee-wee Herman... -...not take the bait 1628 01:18:27,285 --> 01:18:28,495 of the leaks. 1629 01:18:28,578 --> 01:18:30,330 He's getting some celebrity support. Right? 1630 01:18:30,414 --> 01:18:32,416 Courteney Cox and her husband, David Arquette, 1631 01:18:32,457 --> 01:18:34,710 are stepping up and speaking on his behalf. 1632 01:18:34,793 --> 01:18:36,670 REPORTER: And you know what? I was a little surprised 1633 01:18:36,753 --> 01:18:39,256 because these are big-time Hollywood stars 1634 01:18:39,297 --> 01:18:42,300 and really voiced support for Paul Reubens. 1635 01:18:42,384 --> 01:18:45,846 DAVID: Paul stayed with us, and, I think for him 1636 01:18:45,929 --> 01:18:48,140 to be able to be there during such a tough time 1637 01:18:48,223 --> 01:18:49,641 was really kind of, like-- 1638 01:18:49,683 --> 01:18:50,684 Kind of peaceful. 1639 01:18:50,767 --> 01:18:52,394 Like, we're going to get through this. 1640 01:18:53,645 --> 01:18:57,399 As far as Paul's sexuality goes, he's guarded about it. 1641 01:18:57,482 --> 01:18:58,692 He's private about it. 1642 01:18:59,776 --> 01:19:01,611 Paul's old-school, so he doesn't wanna talk 1643 01:19:01,653 --> 01:19:03,572 about his personal life. 1644 01:19:03,655 --> 01:19:05,782 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1645 01:19:05,824 --> 01:19:07,993 I said, like, "This may be the universe 1646 01:19:08,034 --> 01:19:09,661 telling you to live your true life." 1647 01:19:09,745 --> 01:19:12,622 I was trying to encourage him to sort of come out. 1648 01:19:13,749 --> 01:19:17,669 KELLY: Paul was not out in the public at that time. 1649 01:19:17,753 --> 01:19:20,172 So, he was an easy target in that regard. 1650 01:19:21,882 --> 01:19:23,967 This was a homophobic witch hunt. 1651 01:19:25,302 --> 01:19:26,845 You know, there's a trope, obviously, 1652 01:19:26,928 --> 01:19:29,514 that's quite dangerous about pedophilia 1653 01:19:29,598 --> 01:19:33,769 and LGBTQ community. It's-- It goes on today. 1654 01:19:35,604 --> 01:19:38,315 When a children's entertainer is accused of possession 1655 01:19:38,356 --> 01:19:39,691 of child pornography 1656 01:19:39,775 --> 01:19:42,694 and those words, "Paul Reubens," "Pee-wee Herman," 1657 01:19:42,736 --> 01:19:44,780 "child pornography," are in a headline... 1658 01:19:44,863 --> 01:19:46,573 -(INDISTINCT CHATTER) -...the damage is done. 1659 01:19:46,656 --> 01:19:48,116 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 1660 01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:52,954 It became very evident that they were trying 1661 01:19:53,038 --> 01:19:56,082 to mess around with him, like, make trouble. 1662 01:19:56,166 --> 01:19:59,878 Okay, good. Okay. Now, wave at Paul. Wave at Paul. 1663 01:19:59,920 --> 01:20:03,173 The police took all of Paul's photos, 1664 01:20:03,215 --> 01:20:06,343 but once we started getting things back, 1665 01:20:06,384 --> 01:20:07,719 it turned out that they had taken 1666 01:20:07,803 --> 01:20:09,596 all of these photos of my daughter, 1667 01:20:09,679 --> 01:20:11,848 Elida, from when she was young. 1668 01:20:13,475 --> 01:20:18,897 They also went to her school and talked to the school. 1669 01:20:18,980 --> 01:20:22,400 Which I didn't know that at all until after the fact. 1670 01:20:22,484 --> 01:20:23,693 PAUL: Who are you waving at? 1671 01:20:23,735 --> 01:20:25,821 ALLISON: And then, and I also had to sign a letter 1672 01:20:25,904 --> 01:20:27,906 -that allowed Paul to be... -(SCREAMS) 1673 01:20:27,989 --> 01:20:29,407 ...alone with Elida. 1674 01:20:30,450 --> 01:20:32,202 It was just so devastating. 1675 01:20:34,496 --> 01:20:39,376 The district attorney participated in that first year 1676 01:20:39,417 --> 01:20:41,378 of the investigation 1677 01:20:41,419 --> 01:20:45,006 from the search warrant for the next 12 months. 1678 01:20:45,090 --> 01:20:49,719 And based on their investigation and their review of the material 1679 01:20:49,761 --> 01:20:52,639 and any evidence seized, they made the determination 1680 01:20:52,722 --> 01:20:54,474 that no charges should be filed. 1681 01:20:54,558 --> 01:20:56,601 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1682 01:20:56,643 --> 01:20:58,854 BLAIR: And at the very last minute, 1683 01:20:58,937 --> 01:21:01,898 literally a day before, 1684 01:21:01,940 --> 01:21:04,860 prosecutors could no longer bring charges, 1685 01:21:04,943 --> 01:21:08,905 the LA city attorney announced that they were gonna file 1686 01:21:08,947 --> 01:21:13,034 one count of misdemeanor possession of child porn. 1687 01:21:14,327 --> 01:21:16,580 You wanna talk about LA champions? 1688 01:21:16,621 --> 01:21:18,290 Well, here's one you should know. 1689 01:21:18,331 --> 01:21:20,333 His name is Rocky Delgadillo. 1690 01:21:20,417 --> 01:21:25,797 Rocky Delgadillo was the newly elected city attorney. 1691 01:21:25,839 --> 01:21:28,800 He was very ambitious... 1692 01:21:28,884 --> 01:21:34,639 uh, had announced that he was particularly focused 1693 01:21:34,723 --> 01:21:37,934 on child abuse issues. 1694 01:21:39,728 --> 01:21:44,941 It was increasingly clear to us that this was a political case. 1695 01:21:44,983 --> 01:21:47,611 Had Paul been a regular citizen, 1696 01:21:47,652 --> 01:21:51,197 none of this attention would have been given to him. 1697 01:21:53,408 --> 01:21:54,868 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 1698 01:21:54,951 --> 01:22:00,165 ALL: ♪ Happy birthday Dear Milton ♪ 1699 01:22:00,248 --> 01:22:04,920 ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 1700 01:22:05,003 --> 01:22:06,212 Help me blow them out. 1701 01:22:06,296 --> 01:22:09,841 -(PAUL CHEERING SOFTLY) -♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1702 01:22:09,925 --> 01:22:12,886 ALLISON: His dad started to go downhill, 1703 01:22:12,969 --> 01:22:17,349 and so then, from there, he went to Florida. 1704 01:22:19,351 --> 01:22:22,145 ABBY: When my dad was declining, 1705 01:22:22,187 --> 01:22:25,482 Paul was helping my mom do everything 1706 01:22:25,523 --> 01:22:27,025 and just basically lived with them 1707 01:22:27,067 --> 01:22:29,736 and took care of my dad the last several months of his life. 1708 01:22:31,696 --> 01:22:33,031 My dad was real macho. 1709 01:22:33,114 --> 01:22:35,617 And that was an issue, I think, between him and Paul. 1710 01:22:36,910 --> 01:22:40,664 Paul really worked on his relationship with my dad. 1711 01:22:40,705 --> 01:22:42,582 That really impressed me how much effort 1712 01:22:42,666 --> 01:22:44,125 he put into that, and that paid off. 1713 01:22:48,505 --> 01:22:51,216 It was a choice that Paul had to make. 1714 01:22:51,257 --> 01:22:53,551 Does he go to trial 1715 01:22:53,593 --> 01:22:59,224 and potentially be completely exonerated and vindicated, 1716 01:22:59,683 --> 01:23:00,976 but with that, 1717 01:23:01,059 --> 01:23:04,229 take on this being in the public eye? 1718 01:23:05,438 --> 01:23:08,233 It was decided that we would find a misdemeanor, 1719 01:23:08,316 --> 01:23:10,485 literally find a misdemeanor, 1720 01:23:10,568 --> 01:23:13,113 that addressed this being material 1721 01:23:13,196 --> 01:23:14,823 that was offensive somehow, 1722 01:23:15,532 --> 01:23:17,742 but on an obscenity standard, 1723 01:23:17,784 --> 01:23:20,161 not anything to do with child pornography. 1724 01:23:23,623 --> 01:23:25,083 KELLY: A month after he was charged 1725 01:23:25,125 --> 01:23:26,876 with possession of obscene material 1726 01:23:26,918 --> 01:23:29,713 and had to turn himself in, his father passed away. 1727 01:23:34,342 --> 01:23:36,636 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 1728 01:23:37,846 --> 01:23:41,266 KELLY: Shortly thereafter, Paul needed to go on camera 1729 01:23:41,307 --> 01:23:43,143 and clear his name... 1730 01:23:43,226 --> 01:23:48,106 because he had nothing to hide, and he needed someone credible 1731 01:23:48,148 --> 01:23:51,443 like Stone Phillips to ask him all the tough questions. 1732 01:23:51,484 --> 01:23:55,113 Were you in possession of child pornography? 1733 01:23:55,196 --> 01:23:59,159 No. I mean, emphatically, no, I was not. 1734 01:23:59,242 --> 01:24:01,453 And where do you draw the line? I mean, to you, it's art. 1735 01:24:01,536 --> 01:24:03,121 To somebody else, it may be offensive, 1736 01:24:03,163 --> 01:24:05,790 objectionable, obscene. 1737 01:24:05,832 --> 01:24:10,003 I guess where I draw the line is I feel like I live in a country 1738 01:24:10,086 --> 01:24:13,298 where I can collect what I wanna collect. And, um... 1739 01:24:14,257 --> 01:24:15,842 And as long as I'm not hurting anyone, 1740 01:24:15,925 --> 01:24:18,511 and as long as I'm not exploiting children... 1741 01:24:20,638 --> 01:24:23,058 I think I should have the right to collect whatever I want. 1742 01:24:23,141 --> 01:24:24,476 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1743 01:24:24,559 --> 01:24:26,978 KELLY: After they'd gone through 30,000 images, 1744 01:24:27,020 --> 01:24:29,314 it came down, ultimately, to one image 1745 01:24:29,355 --> 01:24:31,816 in one vintage magazine. 1746 01:24:31,858 --> 01:24:38,198 They agreed that the photograph was not of someone underage. 1747 01:24:38,281 --> 01:24:42,327 Once the child pornography charge was thrown out, 1748 01:24:42,368 --> 01:24:44,370 I was willing to take responsibility 1749 01:24:44,454 --> 01:24:46,498 -for my collection. -STONE PHILLIPS: Which included? 1750 01:24:46,581 --> 01:24:50,335 Which includes saying and agreeing 1751 01:24:50,376 --> 01:24:53,505 that there were images that were obscene. 1752 01:24:53,588 --> 01:24:55,840 STONE: His penalty, a 100-dollar fine, 1753 01:24:55,882 --> 01:24:57,175 mandatory counseling, 1754 01:24:57,258 --> 01:24:59,677 no unsupervised contact with children, 1755 01:24:59,761 --> 01:25:01,513 and for the next three years, 1756 01:25:01,554 --> 01:25:04,182 he must register as a sex offender. 1757 01:25:04,224 --> 01:25:06,226 You can say lots of things about me. 1758 01:25:06,309 --> 01:25:10,105 And you might, and so might lots of other people, 1759 01:25:10,188 --> 01:25:14,234 the public may think I'm weird, they may think I'm... 1760 01:25:14,317 --> 01:25:19,197 crazy, or anything that anyone wants to think about me, 1761 01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:21,533 that's all fine, as long as one of the things 1762 01:25:21,574 --> 01:25:22,659 you're not thinking about me 1763 01:25:22,700 --> 01:25:25,120 is that I'm a pedophile because that's not true. 1764 01:25:26,913 --> 01:25:29,249 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 1765 01:25:30,166 --> 01:25:32,710 -(WATER RIPPLING) -(BIRDS CHIRPING) 1766 01:25:45,932 --> 01:25:48,059 ALLISON: Paul's very resilient. 1767 01:25:49,602 --> 01:25:54,190 Those were some scary times and you have to be 1768 01:25:54,232 --> 01:26:01,072 willing to allow for that pain to be there, you know, 1769 01:26:01,156 --> 01:26:04,242 and to actually express it a little bit, also. 1770 01:26:05,702 --> 01:26:09,664 That took a lot of day-to-day work, 1771 01:26:09,747 --> 01:26:11,624 but Paul knows how to, like... 1772 01:26:12,750 --> 01:26:14,544 come back from things. 1773 01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:18,464 Please welcome Paul Reubens. 1774 01:26:18,548 --> 01:26:22,385 -♪ (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -(AUDIENCE CHEERING, APPLAUDING) 1775 01:26:25,847 --> 01:26:27,891 I'm just curious. I mean, I know it's been a while 1776 01:26:27,932 --> 01:26:29,601 since you were Pee-wee Herman. 1777 01:26:29,684 --> 01:26:32,145 We actually found a Pee-wee outfit. 1778 01:26:32,228 --> 01:26:33,313 (LAUGHS) 1779 01:26:33,396 --> 01:26:35,273 This is the real Pee-wee Herman outfit we have right here. 1780 01:26:35,315 --> 01:26:36,941 We were curious if you would fit into it. 1781 01:26:37,025 --> 01:26:38,860 Do you think he could fit into it? 1782 01:26:38,943 --> 01:26:42,155 -(AUDIENCE CHEERING, APPLAUDING) -No, I can't. 1783 01:26:42,238 --> 01:26:45,408 -Come on! Give it a try! -I can't. Beg me! 1784 01:26:46,618 --> 01:26:49,078 -(AUDIENCE CHEERING) -Just... 1785 01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:51,831 -♪ (INTRIGUING MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -(AUDIENCE CHEERING) 1786 01:26:51,915 --> 01:26:53,791 (LAUGHS) 1787 01:26:54,584 --> 01:26:55,877 -Yeah. -Do you feel yourself 1788 01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:56,961 becoming Pee-wee 1789 01:26:57,003 --> 01:26:58,755 -as you put it on? -No, it's not about the pants. 1790 01:26:58,796 --> 01:27:00,757 Pee-wee is really in me. 1791 01:27:00,798 --> 01:27:02,800 -You know? -Yeah. Right. 1792 01:27:02,884 --> 01:27:04,636 ALLISON: Paul had the opportunity 1793 01:27:04,677 --> 01:27:06,471 to bring back Pee-wee, 1794 01:27:06,512 --> 01:27:08,097 which he was thrilled about. 1795 01:27:08,806 --> 01:27:10,141 And I think that 1796 01:27:10,225 --> 01:27:13,019 that was a little bit hard for him. 1797 01:27:13,102 --> 01:27:17,523 And realizing that he was older and that time had passed. 1798 01:27:18,650 --> 01:27:21,152 But I think he always had faith in Pee-wee. 1799 01:27:25,031 --> 01:27:26,991 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 1800 01:27:27,075 --> 01:27:29,369 JOHN MOODY: Paul called me up and said, "Well, we're doing 1801 01:27:29,452 --> 01:27:31,371 the stage show again, 1802 01:27:31,454 --> 01:27:36,668 and I'd like you to be in it." And I said, "Really?" (LAUGHS) 1803 01:27:36,709 --> 01:27:39,337 Here's some mail for you, Pee-wee. 1804 01:27:39,420 --> 01:27:41,798 Paul, I thought for sure you'd want, like, 1805 01:27:41,839 --> 01:27:44,217 a 25-year-old Mailman Mike... (CHUCKLES) 1806 01:27:44,300 --> 01:27:46,844 ...and not a, you know, 60-year-old Mailman Mike. 1807 01:27:46,886 --> 01:27:51,808 It's the most beautiful woman in Puppetland, Miss Yvonne. 1808 01:27:51,849 --> 01:27:54,686 (AUDIENCE CHEERING, APPLAUDING) 1809 01:27:54,727 --> 01:27:57,146 LYNNE: I mean, when I opened that door 1810 01:27:57,188 --> 01:27:58,564 as Miss Yvonne and came out, 1811 01:27:58,648 --> 01:28:00,149 I could have done anything. I could have peed, 1812 01:28:00,191 --> 01:28:01,734 and people would have said, 1813 01:28:01,818 --> 01:28:04,862 "Miss Yvonne made such an incredible statement. 1814 01:28:04,946 --> 01:28:07,448 She peed onstage. I love her." 1815 01:28:07,532 --> 01:28:10,827 Oh, did we already find out today's secret word? 1816 01:28:10,868 --> 01:28:13,413 CONKY: Y-- Y-- Y-- Yes, we did, M-- M-- M-- M-- Miss Yvonne. 1817 01:28:13,496 --> 01:28:18,584 -Darn, I missed all the fun. -(ALL EXCLAIM) 1818 01:28:18,668 --> 01:28:21,379 Come on, everybody, let me in on the fun. 1819 01:28:21,421 --> 01:28:23,214 -(ALL EXCLAIM) -LYNNE: It was a thrill, 1820 01:28:23,256 --> 01:28:26,259 and it was a built-in love affair 1821 01:28:26,342 --> 01:28:29,595 with the audience because they had watched us as kids. 1822 01:28:29,679 --> 01:28:32,181 (CHEERING) 1823 01:28:32,223 --> 01:28:34,392 JUDD APATOW: The live version of the Pee-wee Show 1824 01:28:34,434 --> 01:28:36,352 on Broadway really was everything 1825 01:28:36,394 --> 01:28:38,187 you wanted it to be. 1826 01:28:38,229 --> 01:28:40,732 I met with Paul, generally, 1827 01:28:40,815 --> 01:28:43,484 just praying that he might want to do 1828 01:28:43,568 --> 01:28:45,778 -a Pee-wee Herman project. -(INDISTINCT CHATTER) 1829 01:28:45,862 --> 01:28:50,533 JUDD: And it literally took years to convince him to do it. 1830 01:28:50,575 --> 01:28:52,744 There seemed to be a lot of anxiety 1831 01:28:52,785 --> 01:28:56,497 around the idea of bringing Pee-wee Herman back in a movie. 1832 01:28:56,581 --> 01:28:58,916 We're writing Pee-wee's Big Holiday. 1833 01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:01,252 JUDD: Paul spends too much time in the house. 1834 01:29:01,336 --> 01:29:03,629 Paul isn't out and about that much. 1835 01:29:03,713 --> 01:29:06,799 -Paul needs an adventure. -Hello. 1836 01:29:06,883 --> 01:29:08,426 And I'm helping write it. 1837 01:29:08,509 --> 01:29:09,927 -♪ (WHIMSICAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -(HUMS, CHUCKLES) 1838 01:29:10,011 --> 01:29:12,430 JUDD: He needs to go make another movie. 1839 01:29:19,354 --> 01:29:20,480 Ooh! 1840 01:29:20,563 --> 01:29:21,481 Appley! 1841 01:29:21,564 --> 01:29:24,484 ♪ ("THE OOGUM BOOGUM SONG" PLAYING) ♪ 1842 01:29:24,567 --> 01:29:26,611 -Cool. -JUDD: There was always 1843 01:29:26,694 --> 01:29:30,656 a feeling like Paul had gone through so much, 1844 01:29:30,740 --> 01:29:31,949 and as a result... 1845 01:29:32,033 --> 01:29:33,368 -(SCREAMS) -...we didn't get this 1846 01:29:33,451 --> 01:29:36,412 -for so many decades. -(ALL SCREAM) 1847 01:29:37,288 --> 01:29:38,539 -To friendship. -To friendship. 1848 01:29:38,623 --> 01:29:40,958 JUDD: As fans and people who admire him, 1849 01:29:41,042 --> 01:29:43,086 we wanted to give him the confidence 1850 01:29:43,127 --> 01:29:45,963 to take a big run at another project. 1851 01:29:46,923 --> 01:29:49,258 And he loved the movie. 1852 01:29:49,300 --> 01:29:52,387 -♪ (WHIMSICAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -CROWD: (CHANTING) Pee-wee! Pee-wee! Pee-wee! 1853 01:29:52,470 --> 01:29:55,807 Pee-wee! Pee-wee! Pee-wee! Pee-wee! 1854 01:29:55,848 --> 01:29:57,141 (CROWD CHEERING) 1855 01:29:57,225 --> 01:29:59,018 JUDD: It really was pandemonium. 1856 01:29:59,102 --> 01:30:01,145 People went crazy for every joke. 1857 01:30:01,187 --> 01:30:03,731 -(AUDIENCE CHEERING) -I told you, I told you! 1858 01:30:04,565 --> 01:30:06,234 I told you it was good. 1859 01:30:06,317 --> 01:30:09,862 JUDD: Then you realize how tuned in he was to his fans 1860 01:30:09,946 --> 01:30:13,491 and what they like and his relationship with them. 1861 01:30:13,533 --> 01:30:18,287 He really got a special moment of total appreciation. 1862 01:30:19,789 --> 01:30:23,709 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 1863 01:30:23,793 --> 01:30:26,129 MATT: If you were gonna make this documentary yourself, 1864 01:30:26,170 --> 01:30:27,422 what would it be? 1865 01:30:29,424 --> 01:30:31,843 I would have taken all the footage 1866 01:30:31,884 --> 01:30:33,719 that I shot over all these years 1867 01:30:33,803 --> 01:30:38,015 and all the photos I took and all the stuff 1868 01:30:38,099 --> 01:30:40,351 that people aren't getting to see right now, 1869 01:30:41,018 --> 01:30:43,187 all that too... 1870 01:30:43,229 --> 01:30:45,773 and made something that would have been very dreamy 1871 01:30:45,857 --> 01:30:48,401 and very kind of, like I would have talked 1872 01:30:48,484 --> 01:30:50,528 a little bit on camera and just gone, like, 1873 01:30:50,611 --> 01:30:52,780 "Now, I'd like you see this, and then this happened. 1874 01:30:52,864 --> 01:30:54,532 And then I made this, and then I did this." 1875 01:30:54,574 --> 01:30:56,701 Me, me, me, me. 1876 01:30:56,784 --> 01:31:00,204 "And then I got arrested, and it was horrible." 1877 01:31:00,288 --> 01:31:01,622 And... (IMITATES CRYING) 1878 01:31:01,706 --> 01:31:04,167 And then, you know... 1879 01:31:04,208 --> 01:31:06,586 "Life was good-o, and then I had to take care of, 1880 01:31:06,669 --> 01:31:08,421 you know, people that were close to me 1881 01:31:08,504 --> 01:31:11,174 that were fucked up." And you know, I don't know. 1882 01:31:11,215 --> 01:31:12,258 I don't know what it would have been. 1883 01:31:12,341 --> 01:31:14,886 We'll never know, or maybe we will. I don't know. 1884 01:31:29,025 --> 01:31:32,153 (OVER RECORDING) 1885 01:31:59,722 --> 01:32:04,393 MATT: 1886 01:32:05,394 --> 01:32:06,812 PAUL: 1887 01:32:27,083 --> 01:32:28,125 So... 1888 01:32:56,821 --> 01:32:58,573 PAUL: (OVER RECORDING, SHAKILY) 1889 01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:45,930 ALLISON: Paul kept his illness a secret from almost everyone. 1890 01:34:49,100 --> 01:34:53,062 He was someone who'd been so private all his life. 1891 01:34:53,104 --> 01:34:57,274 ♪ (SOFT MELANCHOLIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1892 01:35:05,950 --> 01:35:09,203 ALLISON: It was challenging for him to do the documentary. 1893 01:35:11,956 --> 01:35:15,376 But at the end of his life, he took a leap of faith 1894 01:35:16,419 --> 01:35:18,921 and decided that the film should be finished. 1895 01:35:25,970 --> 01:35:27,972 He wanted people to see... 1896 01:35:29,724 --> 01:35:31,726 who he was as Paul. 1897 01:35:34,061 --> 01:35:35,146 (INAUDIBLE) 1898 01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:42,486 ALLISON: In the last months of Paul's life, 1899 01:35:42,570 --> 01:35:44,697 he was in a loving relationship. 1900 01:35:47,825 --> 01:35:50,661 He was surrounded by his closest friends. 1901 01:35:52,997 --> 01:35:55,416 He had a lot of joy. 1902 01:35:55,499 --> 01:35:58,002 (BIRDS CHIRPING) 1903 01:36:01,172 --> 01:36:02,923 ALLISON: I think he was embracing 1904 01:36:03,007 --> 01:36:06,761 the fullness of his life in those last days. 1905 01:36:09,013 --> 01:36:13,267 And in awe of the life that he had lived. 1906 01:36:18,939 --> 01:36:21,150 Paul was incredibly brave. 1907 01:36:23,778 --> 01:36:27,448 ♪ (SOFT MELANCHOLIC MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ 1908 01:36:31,702 --> 01:36:36,707 (AUDIENCE CHEERING) 1909 01:36:37,792 --> 01:36:42,004 (AUDIENCE WHISTLING, CHEERING) 1910 01:36:56,852 --> 01:36:58,729 PAUL: All this different stuff... 1911 01:36:59,980 --> 01:37:01,565 all these different emotions, 1912 01:37:01,649 --> 01:37:05,903 all these different influences and factors, 1913 01:37:05,945 --> 01:37:08,280 stuff that I saw when I was little... 1914 01:37:09,156 --> 01:37:11,951 I felt like I could somehow 1915 01:37:12,868 --> 01:37:14,036 give that back. 1916 01:37:15,788 --> 01:37:20,042 I felt like a good collector of it all. 1917 01:37:22,753 --> 01:37:25,381 I was like a good vessel for it all. 1918 01:37:27,716 --> 01:37:29,260 Nothing would, like... 1919 01:37:30,135 --> 01:37:32,012 stop me. Nothing would deter me 1920 01:37:32,096 --> 01:37:34,473 that it would be pure in every way, 1921 01:37:34,557 --> 01:37:36,475 and I think that's what it was. 1922 01:37:36,559 --> 01:37:39,979 That's part of why I feel so proud of it 1923 01:37:40,062 --> 01:37:44,275 is because I, um... 1924 01:37:44,358 --> 01:37:48,112 I delivered that. I lived up to that, not just... 1925 01:37:49,446 --> 01:37:51,282 for you, but for myself. 1926 01:37:52,116 --> 01:37:53,617 I'm flying! 1927 01:37:53,701 --> 01:37:56,620 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING, APPLAUDING) 1928 01:37:56,704 --> 01:37:59,748 ♪ (TENDER DREAMY MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1929 01:38:02,334 --> 01:38:04,128 I am the luckiest... 1930 01:38:05,087 --> 01:38:08,090 ♪ Boy in the world ♪ 1931 01:38:08,132 --> 01:38:09,800 The birds all envy me. 1932 01:38:10,509 --> 01:38:14,179 ♪ Because I'm Pee-wee ♪ 1933 01:38:14,263 --> 01:38:16,974 If you're lucky like me, boys and girls, 1934 01:38:17,016 --> 01:38:19,101 all your dreams are gonna come true. 1935 01:38:20,477 --> 01:38:22,229 Because guess what, kids? 1936 01:38:24,148 --> 01:38:28,277 -I said, guess what, kids? -AUDIENCE: (SHOUTING) What? 1937 01:38:28,319 --> 01:38:30,905 I'm gonna share all my luck with you! 1938 01:38:32,823 --> 01:38:34,241 I'm Pee-wee Herman. 1939 01:38:35,492 --> 01:38:37,745 I'm the luckiest boy in the world. 1940 01:38:39,830 --> 01:38:42,917 Goodbye. Goodbye, boys and girls. 1941 01:38:52,593 --> 01:38:55,346 ♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪ 1942 01:39:00,643 --> 01:39:03,854 ♪ (SOFT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1943 01:41:00,512 --> 01:41:03,724 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪