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(upbeat music)

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MAN: Check, check,
one, two, check.

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Check, one, two.

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Check, check, one, two.

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One, two.

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One, two.

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Hello, one, two, yeah,
check, check, check.

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Playing to an audience is like,

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it's some kind of
other dimension.

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(upbeat rock music)

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You live for those
moments on stage

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and you live for that
connection to other people

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that are like you.

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Rock and roll is the opportunity
to scream at the world,

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I am here, I exist.

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Music is the most powerful
thing in the universe

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and if people don't
believe it, they're crazy.

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(audience cheering)

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From the time I get on stage,

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every once in awhile,
it's magic that hits me.

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(upbeat rock music)

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♪ Ah, yeah, yeah ♪

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Rock and roll, it
gives you the power,

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you know, the force.

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That wonderful adrenaline rush.

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There's only one
reason we do that shit.

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'Cause you fucking love it.

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(upbeat rock music)

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(audience cheering)

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DAVE: All of the biggest
bands in the world,

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they had to start somewhere.

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Everybody I know started
out like this, in a van.

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Yeah.

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DAVE: You know, you're crammed

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in there together for months

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and it can be totally
fucking disgusting

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and absolutely
beautiful all at once.

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And what happens in the
van is the foundation

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of who we become.

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When are we gonna eat again?
We're gonna eat

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some clown meat tonight.
Clown meat. (laughing)

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DAVE: And it creates
this unique perspective

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that we all share.

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So yeah, this is the van.

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It's cool.

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It's not very comfortable,

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but you make it work.

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DAVE: Personally, I don't
think that I'd still be here

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if it weren't for
those early experiences

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touring in the van,
touring with my friends.

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If it weren't for that old
van, I don't where I'd be.

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Remember the red van that we had

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that we sold to Brain Brown?
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Mm-hmm, that was your first van.

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That was my first van.
Where's it now?

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(upbeat rock music)

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Guess what?

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I got it back.

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(door creaks)
(Dave mimics creaking)

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I gotta be honest.

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This van

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has stood the test of time.

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It was brand spanking
new when we got it.

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And every time I take
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I'm gonna fall out the door.

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It didn't used to be
like that. (laughing)

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Okay, so I'm making a
movie about van touring.

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DAVE: And its importance
in spreading music around

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either the country or the world,

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right?
The world. Yeah.

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DAVE: It almost pollinates.

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It's like cross-pollination.

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Everyone we've talked to
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The van stories.

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DAVE: People are like,

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especially like
these big musicians,

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they're kind of proud
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DAVE: I just love that I
could talk to Ringo about it,

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talk to you about it.

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talk to the drummer
of Slayer about it.

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Yes.
Talk to Ian

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Mackaye about it.

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And it seems like everybody
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and the same drive
and whatever it takes.

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Can I just say one thing?
Yeah.

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I realized I was thinking

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while I was driving
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what am I walking into?

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Oh, it's about van touring.

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And so I was just
revisiting all that.

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I realized I'd actually
never toured in van.

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Okay.
So can I go now?

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Yes. And cut.
(guys laughing)

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well, no, because it's
funny when we started this

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I thought, well, there'll
be a lot of great stories

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and people talking about the
logistics of touring in a van

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and anecdotes about turning
an a van and shit like that

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but then it sort of evolved
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that's more about people.

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Why the fuck people
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and just sort of quit life
and start playing music

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and wandering around
with their friends.

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So, but tell me your name
and where you're from.

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My name is (laughing)

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I'm Lars and I'm from Denmark.

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So say our names right now?

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(guys laughing)

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I'm Slash from LA.

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Duff Mckagan, I'm from
Seattle, Washington.

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My name's Annie Clark and
I'm from Dallas, Texas.

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My name is Ben Harper and I'm
from Claremont, California.

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My name is Jennifer
Precious Finch

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and I am from Los
Angeles, California.

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I am The Edge and I play
guitar for a band called U2

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and I hail from a small village

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north of Dublin city in
Ireland called Malahide.

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My name is Flea, I'm from
Melbourne, Australia.

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DAVE: Were you
born in Melbourne?

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I was. 1962.

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D.H. Peligro from the
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and I'm born in St.
Louis, Missouri.

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My name is Exene Cervenka.

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I'm from Illinois.

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I'm Brian Johnson
as you well know.

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And I'm from Dunston,
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of Newcastle in the
northeast of England.

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My name is Kira.

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I'm from New Haven,
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My name is Tony Kanal.

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Where am I from?

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I was born in London, England.

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Were you really?
Yeah.

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Fuck, I didn't know that.
Yeah.

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My name's Steven Tyler.

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I'm from Maui,

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LA,

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Laurel Canyon,

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Boston, New Hampshire,

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and every now and then
the way out is here.

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I'm Isaiah, I play the bass.

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My name's Dee and I
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I'm Solomon and I play drums.

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DAVE: And what's the
name of your band?

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Radkey.
And where you from?

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We're from St. Joseph, Missouri.

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Really?
Yeah.

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Yeah.

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DAVE: What's that like?

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It's not that awesome.

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♪ Kids these days ♪

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♪ They want it all ♪

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♪ They just trip ♪

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♪ Trip and fall ♪

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We were home schooled,

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so there wasn't a lot to do

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besides listen to our
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and kind of hang out.

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And we just got kind of bored
and were like all right,

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we can just kind of hang
out and play music together

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and We had plenty
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And then pretty much
get out of St. Joe.

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Like the rock was able to
get us out of our city,

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which was great, you know.

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♪ If the world starts
waking these kids up ♪

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♪ From their games and
their dark black makeup ♪

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So when you're starting
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in what I imagine
is a small town?

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It's actually bigger,
it's kind of big.

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It's just kind of
lame, man. It's weird.

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There's just no
music scene, really.

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Like we had to play out of town

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because people didn't
want to book us

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because they would say that
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but we had a CD, so they
never listened to the CD.

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So yeah, we just
played outside it,

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we played Kansas City,
Kansas and all that stuff

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until at some point, someone
booked us in St. Joe.

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♪ I just can't shake it ♪

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♪ I'm gonna take them away ♪

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DAVE: So is your
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the tour manager/roadie/driver?

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Yes. Yes.

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And yeah, Dad hooked us
up with all the music

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we listened to, takes us
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takes care of us to this day.

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It's really cool

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like there's not much of a
change from being at home

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so we can stay on the road
for a really long time.

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It's just crazy I've been
doing this is for nine years.

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Yep.
And we're still doing it.

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(laughing)

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They told me that your
kids are gonna start a band

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and you can quit your
shitty Walmart job

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and be on the road touring
with your favorite band

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for the rest of your life.

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Be an amazing opportunity.

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It's just craziness.

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DAVE: What's great
about Radkey's story is

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that it's not that different
from everyone I know.

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My parents decided
move to Dublin

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when I was one to this
little town called Malahide

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and that's where I grew up
with my brother and my sister.

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The one downside of
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outside of Dublin city was
often not a lot going on.

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So we would have to find
other ways to amuse ourselves

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and that's when we
got into explosives.

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(dramatic music)

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And that was a kind
of interesting phase.

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We had a couple of summers

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having great fun
blowing things up.

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You're gonna lose
your global entry.

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(The Edge laughing)

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This is probably true.

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I don't know if
we'll use that part.

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Has U2 ever used pyro?

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I feel like you've
never fucking used-

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No, we got over that
phase, you know, age 15.

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But you know, it's
like, you know,

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you're in this nice little
town, but not a lot happening

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so things went horribly wrong

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when I discovered rock and roll.

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(laughing)

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I was trying to
remember what it was

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that got me interested
in rock and roll

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and I think it was watching
"A Hard Day's Night."

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(upbeat music)

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(audience screaming)

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♪ It's been a hard day's night ♪

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♪ And I've been
working like a dog ♪

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I just was like wow.

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You get to do that?

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That's amazing. I
want to do that.

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♪ But when I get home to you ♪

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♪ I'll find the
things that you do ♪

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♪ Will make me feel alright ♪

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♪ You know I feel all right ♪

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♪ You know I feel alright ♪

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(audience cheering)

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It was just that time
with the Beatles,

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the storms, everything
was starting to happen.

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Nobody knew quite
what was happening

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but it was like grunge.

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What the fuck's happened?

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What was that?

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At 15 I had to leave school

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and start an apprenticeship
in a factory.

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There was 60 kids in
this apprentice group

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and everybody was
starting bands.

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"Brian, do you want
to start a band?"

259
00:10:47,646 --> 00:10:50,900
And I said, "Yeah, I
wanna be a drummer."

260
00:10:50,983 --> 00:10:53,402
I didn't like singing,
I want to be a drummer,

261
00:10:53,486 --> 00:10:55,905
and then I went to see
how much kit of drums was

262
00:10:55,988 --> 00:10:57,698
and that was the
end of that dream.

263
00:10:57,782 --> 00:10:59,533
It was just ridiculous,

264
00:10:59,617 --> 00:11:01,077
but you never felt poor.

265
00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:02,995
You never felt poor because
everybody else was the same.

266
00:11:03,079 --> 00:11:05,664
In fact, the only way you
could get out of there

267
00:11:05,748 --> 00:11:10,252
was if you were a good
football player or music.

268
00:11:10,336 --> 00:11:12,755
(upbeat music)

269
00:11:12,838 --> 00:11:15,674
The first time I heard something
that just (indistinct) me,

270
00:11:15,758 --> 00:11:18,344
just jumped out at me,

271
00:11:18,427 --> 00:11:21,055
thought, well, off the floor
I was about 12 or something,

272
00:11:21,138 --> 00:11:24,725
the BBC television, there
was only one channel.

273
00:11:24,809 --> 00:11:26,685
Mix through, queue on two.

274
00:11:26,769 --> 00:11:29,355
Today we have a surprise for you

275
00:11:29,438 --> 00:11:30,773
because they all
talked like that

276
00:11:30,856 --> 00:11:34,110
with this awfully
posh English accent.

277
00:11:34,193 --> 00:11:36,946
And she said, "We have a
young man from America,

278
00:11:38,364 --> 00:11:41,659
a film of this young man and
it he's called Little Richard."

279
00:11:42,618 --> 00:11:45,287
And I was going Little Richard?

280
00:11:45,371 --> 00:11:48,165
And anyway, it just come
on and there was this

281
00:11:49,875 --> 00:11:51,627
peacock of a guy, you know?

282
00:11:51,710 --> 00:11:55,423
Fucking hair, the suit
and he just went...

283
00:11:55,506 --> 00:11:57,883
♪ A whop bam boo bop
bopa-a-lu a lam-boop-ba ♪

284
00:11:57,967 --> 00:12:00,219
♪ Tutti frutti, oh Rudy ♪

285
00:12:00,302 --> 00:12:02,471
♪ Tutti frutti, oh Rudy ♪

286
00:12:02,555 --> 00:12:05,224
♪ Tutti frutti, oh Rudy ♪

287
00:12:05,307 --> 00:12:07,476
♪ Tutti frutti, oh Rudy ♪

288
00:12:07,560 --> 00:12:10,479
And I just went,
"What the fuck?"

289
00:12:11,564 --> 00:12:14,567
It just turned me on me tits.

290
00:12:14,650 --> 00:12:17,778
I just couldn't believe
anybody could sing like that.

291
00:12:17,862 --> 00:12:19,989
I just, I wanna sing
like that, you know?

292
00:12:20,072 --> 00:12:23,784
♪ Bop bopa-a-lu a whop bam boo ♪

293
00:12:23,868 --> 00:12:26,454
The music we had
was the car radio.

294
00:12:26,537 --> 00:12:29,999
And there was like Ray Charles
and you know, Johnny Cash

295
00:12:30,082 --> 00:12:32,793
and the Supremes and the
Beatles eventually and all that.

296
00:12:32,877 --> 00:12:35,921
There was no connection
between that and real life.

297
00:12:36,005 --> 00:12:37,173
There was no idea
like, you know what?

298
00:12:37,256 --> 00:12:38,799
I think I'll be
in a band someday.

299
00:12:38,883 --> 00:12:40,676
Like I want to be just
like Jimi Hendrix,

300
00:12:40,759 --> 00:12:41,927
maybe I learn to play guitar.

301
00:12:42,011 --> 00:12:44,597
That didn't happen in a
rural area of Illinois.

302
00:12:44,680 --> 00:12:46,098
You didn't feel it.

303
00:12:46,182 --> 00:12:48,767
I mean, I think it's a
lot different now. Right?

304
00:12:48,851 --> 00:12:50,269
The last thing I
ever thought of,

305
00:12:50,352 --> 00:12:53,272
probably nun,

306
00:12:53,355 --> 00:12:54,607
teacher,

307
00:12:54,690 --> 00:12:56,108
mother,

308
00:12:56,192 --> 00:12:58,861
nurse, maybe if I didn't
tell anybody, stewardess.

309
00:12:58,944 --> 00:13:00,779
(plane roaring)

310
00:13:00,863 --> 00:13:03,866
In the projects in Morrison
Lane where we lived,

311
00:13:03,949 --> 00:13:07,703
my aunts would come
over and they would just

312
00:13:07,786 --> 00:13:09,872
have a couple of drinks
and started listening

313
00:13:09,955 --> 00:13:12,124
to like R&B.

314
00:13:12,208 --> 00:13:14,210
R&B, all the Detroit
sound, all the,

315
00:13:14,293 --> 00:13:16,128
Gladys Knight & the Pips,

316
00:13:16,212 --> 00:13:18,881
The Temptations, all that
stuff that came out of Motown.

317
00:13:18,964 --> 00:13:21,133
They would all sit
around and groove to it.

318
00:13:21,217 --> 00:13:23,344
And so as little kids we
would just kind of peer in

319
00:13:23,427 --> 00:13:24,803
and like, what are they doing?

320
00:13:24,887 --> 00:13:26,680
Well, they sure seem
to be having fun.

321
00:13:26,764 --> 00:13:28,390
Russell, this father
I grew up with,

322
00:13:28,474 --> 00:13:31,727
he did buy a Danelectro guitar.

323
00:13:31,810 --> 00:13:34,063
The one that came in
the case with the amp.

324
00:13:34,146 --> 00:13:36,482
He couldn't play it, but he
would just let us play it.

325
00:13:36,565 --> 00:13:39,485
And I would just get on
it and go, woo, woo, woo

326
00:13:39,568 --> 00:13:42,738
and just try to make
a fucking sound.

327
00:13:42,821 --> 00:13:45,199
And I was like
wow, this is cool.

328
00:13:45,282 --> 00:13:46,659
It makes a sound.
It makes a sound.

329
00:13:46,742 --> 00:13:50,579
I'm just making noise
but I was fascinated.

330
00:13:50,663 --> 00:13:54,333
(upbeat drum music)

331
00:13:54,416 --> 00:13:56,877
I was in the school
band, you know.

332
00:13:56,961 --> 00:14:00,005
Learn my paradiddles and
my single stroke roles,

333
00:14:00,089 --> 00:14:03,050
you know, just the basics,
but I got tired of it.

334
00:14:03,133 --> 00:14:06,595
And I felt that listening
to Zeppelin, you know,

335
00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,847
listening to the
Stones, you know,

336
00:14:08,931 --> 00:14:13,602
I learned more about
rhythm and song structure

337
00:14:13,686 --> 00:14:16,438
and melody than
somebody sitting there

338
00:14:16,522 --> 00:14:18,274
teaching me his own way.

339
00:14:18,357 --> 00:14:20,359
I wanted to have
a band by the time

340
00:14:21,860 --> 00:14:23,862
I got my first drum kit.

341
00:14:23,946 --> 00:14:27,116
That had to have been
like eighth grade.

342
00:14:27,199 --> 00:14:30,244
I got a drum kit when
I was maybe 11 or 12.

343
00:14:30,327 --> 00:14:31,870
And I would sit, I had
it modeled master after

344
00:14:31,954 --> 00:14:36,083
Ian Paice and John Coghlan,
the guy from Status Quo.

345
00:14:36,166 --> 00:14:37,793
My friends would come over.

346
00:14:37,876 --> 00:14:40,963
We'd take some tennis
rackets, they would do guitar.

347
00:14:41,046 --> 00:14:44,258
And then we would, we had
these, it was like an old house.

348
00:14:44,341 --> 00:14:47,052
It had like old school radiators

349
00:14:47,136 --> 00:14:48,971
and we would turn
the radiators up

350
00:14:49,054 --> 00:14:50,723
and then we would,
don't tell anybody this.

351
00:14:50,806 --> 00:14:52,725
We'd take our shirts off

352
00:14:52,808 --> 00:14:55,728
and then we would like sweat
and we would be on stage

353
00:14:55,811 --> 00:14:58,522
and we would be like in a
rock band, it was so cool.

354
00:15:00,316 --> 00:15:02,651
All right, we have to
cut it all the way back

355
00:15:02,735 --> 00:15:07,740
because my neighbors
were core punk rockers.

356
00:15:08,490 --> 00:15:10,784
They had the garage band

357
00:15:10,868 --> 00:15:13,996
in the 80s that drove
the entire neighborhood

358
00:15:14,079 --> 00:15:16,165
property values down.

359
00:15:16,248 --> 00:15:19,668
Pierced cheeks, mohawks
to the moon, right?

360
00:15:19,752 --> 00:15:22,921
And they actually had a super
influential punk rock band

361
00:15:23,005 --> 00:15:25,424
at the time called

362
00:15:28,177 --> 00:15:29,261
Christian Death.

363
00:15:29,345 --> 00:15:30,512
Those were your neighbors?
Yeah.

364
00:15:30,596 --> 00:15:32,306
Christian Death
were my neighbors.

365
00:15:32,389 --> 00:15:34,016
So they would hear me playing

366
00:15:34,099 --> 00:15:37,186
like Casey Kasem
pop music next door.

367
00:15:37,269 --> 00:15:40,522
So I'd be blasting that
right out the window

368
00:15:40,606 --> 00:15:42,024
where they'd be
trying to rehearse.

369
00:15:42,107 --> 00:15:46,195
So one time they finally just
came in and mobbed me, right?

370
00:15:46,278 --> 00:15:50,115
So they came in, pulled
the wires on my receiver

371
00:15:50,199 --> 00:15:52,117
and just said, "Here.

372
00:15:52,201 --> 00:15:54,411
You need to start here, man.

373
00:15:55,621 --> 00:15:57,790
Here is a Clash record.

374
00:15:57,873 --> 00:16:00,542
Here is Paul Weller in The Jam.

375
00:16:00,626 --> 00:16:02,294
A handful of records, here.

376
00:16:02,378 --> 00:16:05,047
This is what, let's
start listening to this."

377
00:16:06,632 --> 00:16:08,133
I never had an older
brother or sister

378
00:16:08,217 --> 00:16:12,471
so my musical experiences
where, you know,

379
00:16:12,554 --> 00:16:15,224
I would gravitate to,
like Prince is my favorite

380
00:16:15,307 --> 00:16:18,644
and still to this
day is my favorite.

381
00:16:18,727 --> 00:16:22,231
And when I got in No Doubt,

382
00:16:22,314 --> 00:16:24,316
Eric Stefani, who
started the band

383
00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,402
and the rest of the guys,
Chris Webb and all these guys

384
00:16:26,485 --> 00:16:27,653
exposed me like to the great,

385
00:16:27,736 --> 00:16:30,572
it was just like this
incredible moment

386
00:16:30,656 --> 00:16:33,075
of just like (upbeat music)

387
00:16:33,158 --> 00:16:35,494
Fishbone and Bad
Brains and the Peppers

388
00:16:35,577 --> 00:16:37,579
and everything at that time.

389
00:16:37,663 --> 00:16:39,498
And I was a sponge and it was
just like (mimics explosion),

390
00:16:39,581 --> 00:16:41,417
my whole world changed.

391
00:16:41,500 --> 00:16:42,710
♪ Party at ground zero ♪

392
00:16:42,793 --> 00:16:45,045
♪ A "B" movie starring you ♪

393
00:16:45,129 --> 00:16:47,339
DAVE: Do you feel like
you're musically inclined?

394
00:16:47,423 --> 00:16:49,341
I don't know if I ever
gave that much of a thought

395
00:16:49,425 --> 00:16:51,427
like I just enjoyed
it and it was fun

396
00:16:51,510 --> 00:16:54,179
and I'd kind of found a
thing and I was doing it,

397
00:16:55,848 --> 00:16:57,516
and I kept doing it.

398
00:16:57,599 --> 00:17:00,102
(upbeat music)

399
00:17:06,775 --> 00:17:08,193
The story of how U2 formed,

400
00:17:08,277 --> 00:17:11,572
having learned basic guitar
playing, like real basic.

401
00:17:11,655 --> 00:17:13,365
I had this idea that
maybe at some point

402
00:17:13,449 --> 00:17:15,868
I would join a garage band.

403
00:17:15,951 --> 00:17:19,204
A junior pupil had a drum kit
and he wants to form a band

404
00:17:19,288 --> 00:17:22,458
and had put a note on the
notice board of the school

405
00:17:23,834 --> 00:17:24,960
for musicians.

406
00:17:25,043 --> 00:17:28,714
So I found the note,

407
00:17:28,797 --> 00:17:31,800
took down the phone number,
called this young guy,

408
00:17:31,884 --> 00:17:33,594
Larry Mullen was his name.

409
00:17:33,677 --> 00:17:36,263
Found out there was a
meeting in his house.

410
00:17:36,346 --> 00:17:37,639
At that first meeting,
were all members of U2

411
00:17:37,723 --> 00:17:39,725
with like three other people.

412
00:17:39,808 --> 00:17:41,977
We started all
gathering instruments

413
00:17:42,060 --> 00:17:43,979
and then we got a
chance to play together.

414
00:17:44,062 --> 00:17:47,649
And that's when we realized that

415
00:17:47,733 --> 00:17:48,901
we had a lot of work
to do. (laughing)

416
00:17:48,984 --> 00:17:51,278
It was, it was just cacophony.

417
00:17:51,361 --> 00:17:54,406
No one could play in time,
no one could play in tune,

418
00:17:54,490 --> 00:17:56,658
it was not good.

419
00:17:56,742 --> 00:17:58,285
But I don't know what.

420
00:17:58,368 --> 00:18:00,496
we just decided to persevere.

421
00:18:00,579 --> 00:18:04,833
Over weeks and months slowly,
something starts to gel.

422
00:18:06,335 --> 00:18:09,922
Our slow increase in skill
suddenly met the Ramones.

423
00:18:10,005 --> 00:18:14,676
♪ Well, the girls are
frisky in old 'Frisco ♪

424
00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,847
♪ A pretty little
chick wherever you go ♪

425
00:18:18,931 --> 00:18:20,098
♪ Oh ♪

426
00:18:20,182 --> 00:18:22,351
And we, that's it,
this is the answer.

427
00:18:22,434 --> 00:18:25,187
This is the music
we need to play.

428
00:18:25,270 --> 00:18:28,482
Simple, heavy cord guitar.

429
00:18:28,565 --> 00:18:29,775
But it's punk rock.

430
00:18:29,858 --> 00:18:31,276
♪ Where they're out
there having fun ♪

431
00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:33,654
♪ In the warm California sun ♪

432
00:18:33,737 --> 00:18:35,781
♪ Where they're out
there having fun ♪

433
00:18:35,864 --> 00:18:38,450
♪ In the warm California sun ♪

434
00:18:38,534 --> 00:18:40,369
(audience applauding)

435
00:18:40,452 --> 00:18:42,371
I know when I talked to
you about music before,

436
00:18:42,454 --> 00:18:44,873
you grew up loving classic rock.

437
00:18:44,957 --> 00:18:46,125
Good, great rock bands.

438
00:18:46,208 --> 00:18:46,959
Great drummers.

439
00:18:47,042 --> 00:18:48,460
You loved Zeppelin.

440
00:18:48,544 --> 00:18:50,879
You loved, you know, the great
rock band, Sabbath, you know.

441
00:18:50,963 --> 00:18:53,465
And for me, like when I
was a kid, I was just like,

442
00:18:53,549 --> 00:18:55,467
"Rock music is for dumb people.

443
00:18:55,551 --> 00:18:57,386
Rock music is for
people who like haircuts

444
00:18:57,469 --> 00:19:00,722
and clothes and they
don't care about music."

445
00:19:00,806 --> 00:19:05,060
You know, when I was a kid,
my life was very tumultuous.

446
00:19:05,144 --> 00:19:07,521
I was a complete
fuck up in school.

447
00:19:07,604 --> 00:19:10,065
I started doing drugs
when I was 11 years old.

448
00:19:10,148 --> 00:19:11,567
You know, I was
scared to be home.

449
00:19:11,650 --> 00:19:14,486
My stepdad was a junky
and wild and violent

450
00:19:14,570 --> 00:19:16,905
and it wasn't a safe
place, you know?

451
00:19:16,989 --> 00:19:21,869
And the one thing was I got
to play music in school,

452
00:19:21,952 --> 00:19:23,161
and I played trumpet.

453
00:19:23,245 --> 00:19:24,913
I had dreams of being
a jazz trumpet player

454
00:19:24,997 --> 00:19:27,666
or playing in a great symphony
orchestra when I grew up,

455
00:19:27,749 --> 00:19:30,335
and the feeling that I had
when I held that fucking thing

456
00:19:30,419 --> 00:19:32,671
to my lips and blew on it

457
00:19:32,754 --> 00:19:35,424
was like all the
chaos, all the fear,

458
00:19:35,507 --> 00:19:37,259
all the like hung over
because it was a crazy night

459
00:19:37,342 --> 00:19:38,886
and the cops came to my house

460
00:19:38,969 --> 00:19:41,221
and my stepdad just
shooting at them

461
00:19:41,305 --> 00:19:42,681
and threatening to kill himself,

462
00:19:42,764 --> 00:19:45,392
like all this stuff
all disappeared.

463
00:19:45,475 --> 00:19:46,852
(sirens wailing)

464
00:19:46,935 --> 00:19:48,520
And in that moment of playing,

465
00:19:48,604 --> 00:19:51,356
and like when I felt like
I made a beautiful sound,

466
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,234
it was like, in that moment,
everything was all right.

467
00:19:54,318 --> 00:19:56,987
(trumpet music)

468
00:19:59,698 --> 00:20:01,700
I'll never forget.
I was like 18.

469
00:20:01,783 --> 00:20:06,788
And at 18, you are allowed to
do night shift at the factory.

470
00:20:08,290 --> 00:20:11,293
Night shift meant
you got double wages.

471
00:20:11,376 --> 00:20:12,419
Okay?

472
00:20:12,502 --> 00:20:14,296
And it was four nights a week

473
00:20:14,379 --> 00:20:16,882
and it was from nine
o'clock at night

474
00:20:16,965 --> 00:20:19,885
until something
the next morning.

475
00:20:19,968 --> 00:20:21,762
I was walking in with
me little hopper sack on

476
00:20:21,845 --> 00:20:23,221
with two other guys.

477
00:20:24,389 --> 00:20:27,100
And the sun, there was
actually a sunny sky

478
00:20:27,184 --> 00:20:28,310
and it was setting in

479
00:20:28,393 --> 00:20:30,979
and there was a big
orange glow in the sky

480
00:20:31,063 --> 00:20:34,232
and I stopped and looked
and I'm like (sighs).

481
00:20:34,316 --> 00:20:35,817
And he went, "What's
wrong with you?"

482
00:20:35,901 --> 00:20:38,987
And I said, "Just think
about the all of the things

483
00:20:39,071 --> 00:20:40,572
people are doing
around the world,

484
00:20:40,656 --> 00:20:44,159
and we're gonna walk into
that big black hole there

485
00:20:44,242 --> 00:20:47,996
and spend the night
working on that shit.

486
00:20:49,331 --> 00:20:50,749
And I don't want to do it."

487
00:20:50,832 --> 00:20:52,668
And they just looked at me.

488
00:20:52,751 --> 00:20:56,046
Mad, mad as a
(indistinct) and I was.

489
00:20:57,255 --> 00:20:58,507
I rather be out there
than going in here,

490
00:20:58,590 --> 00:21:00,175
earning double time.

491
00:21:06,014 --> 00:21:07,933
In my family, music
was the movement.

492
00:21:08,016 --> 00:21:10,102
Music was the revolution.

493
00:21:10,185 --> 00:21:12,604
You know, music
was social justice

494
00:21:12,688 --> 00:21:13,939
and social change and cultural.

495
00:21:14,022 --> 00:21:15,774
There's a lot that went into it,

496
00:21:15,857 --> 00:21:17,609
more than it just being music.

497
00:21:17,693 --> 00:21:19,027
You know, when you
have that moment

498
00:21:19,111 --> 00:21:20,654
where it kind of clarifies
who you want to be

499
00:21:20,737 --> 00:21:22,990
and what you want to do
and how you want to do it.

500
00:21:23,073 --> 00:21:24,950
And I heard Mississippi
John Hurt for the first time

501
00:21:25,033 --> 00:21:26,451
and I asked my
grandmother, I said,

502
00:21:26,535 --> 00:21:28,453
"Grandma, who were these guys?

503
00:21:28,537 --> 00:21:29,705
Who were these
two guys playing?"

504
00:21:29,788 --> 00:21:31,039
She's like, "No, no,
it's just one guy."

505
00:21:31,123 --> 00:21:32,207
You know, one thing
with the thumb,

506
00:21:32,290 --> 00:21:33,959
bass with the thumb,
melody with the fingers.

507
00:21:34,042 --> 00:21:35,836
I just, I just, that was it.

508
00:21:35,919 --> 00:21:37,796
I had to do that.

509
00:21:37,879 --> 00:21:41,216
How old were you?
19.

510
00:21:41,299 --> 00:21:45,887
♪ You got to walk
that lonesome valley ♪

511
00:21:45,971 --> 00:21:48,682
♪ Well, you got to walk ♪

512
00:21:48,765 --> 00:21:50,308
♪ It for yourself ♪

513
00:21:50,392 --> 00:21:53,228
You know, some
musicians begin to play

514
00:21:53,311 --> 00:21:56,231
because they want to, you know,

515
00:21:56,314 --> 00:21:59,484
be in the band and
travel and see the world.

516
00:21:59,568 --> 00:22:01,653
But with you, it seems
like you were really

517
00:22:01,737 --> 00:22:02,988
kind of born into it.

518
00:22:03,071 --> 00:22:05,657
I've been playing 75 years.

519
00:22:06,658 --> 00:22:08,368
And I learned off the road,

520
00:22:08,452 --> 00:22:10,662
the road taught me how to live.

521
00:22:10,746 --> 00:22:11,663
(upbeat music)

522
00:22:11,747 --> 00:22:13,415
Well, my name is
Charles Gabriel.

523
00:22:13,498 --> 00:22:15,167
I'm from to the
city of New Orleans,

524
00:22:15,250 --> 00:22:16,418
the great city of New Orleans.

525
00:22:16,501 --> 00:22:18,670
And my grandfather was
born in New Orleans

526
00:22:18,754 --> 00:22:21,506
and he was a cornet player.

527
00:22:21,590 --> 00:22:24,342
And he had The National
the jazz band in 1920.

528
00:22:24,426 --> 00:22:25,927
And my father born
in New Orleans too

529
00:22:26,011 --> 00:22:31,016
and he was a drummer and
my father had five boys,

530
00:22:31,933 --> 00:22:34,269
five of us and five girls.

531
00:22:34,352 --> 00:22:38,732
And my mother and them decided
to go to Detroit in 1941.

532
00:22:38,815 --> 00:22:41,526
My dad told my mother, he said,

533
00:22:41,610 --> 00:22:43,028
"You can to take
them all to Detroit

534
00:22:43,111 --> 00:22:46,114
but you can't take Charlie,
'cause I'm teaching Charlie."

535
00:22:46,198 --> 00:22:48,784
Because he was teaching
me about seven years

536
00:22:48,867 --> 00:22:50,702
before I was able
to go to Detroit

537
00:22:50,786 --> 00:22:51,870
and join the rest of my family.

538
00:22:51,953 --> 00:22:54,289
And that's what I wanted to do.

539
00:22:54,372 --> 00:22:57,042
I wanted to become a musician.

540
00:22:57,125 --> 00:22:59,795
I prayed to God that I
can become a musician

541
00:22:59,878 --> 00:23:03,590
to qualify to play music
anywhere in the universe.

542
00:23:03,673 --> 00:23:05,717
To me it was it was just normal.

543
00:23:12,390 --> 00:23:14,476
DAVE: When did you
become a musician?

544
00:23:16,978 --> 00:23:18,939
That's hopefully in a
couple of years from now.

545
00:23:19,022 --> 00:23:20,398
We're very close.

546
00:23:20,482 --> 00:23:23,235
There may be actually a
record deal around the corner

547
00:23:23,318 --> 00:23:26,488
which could make this Metallic
thing really take off.

548
00:23:26,571 --> 00:23:28,907
I know some people,
just so you know.

549
00:23:28,990 --> 00:23:32,494
Every Thursday there was
three hours of learning

550
00:23:32,577 --> 00:23:34,663
about religion
and about history,

551
00:23:35,831 --> 00:23:37,457
religious history
in the Danish school

552
00:23:37,541 --> 00:23:41,086
so we would go to
the Lutheran church

553
00:23:41,169 --> 00:23:42,629
down the street from the school.

554
00:23:42,712 --> 00:23:45,966
And I remember
clearly the priest

555
00:23:46,049 --> 00:23:49,261
going through everybody
and talking to them about

556
00:23:49,344 --> 00:23:51,304
what they imagined
their future being.

557
00:23:51,388 --> 00:23:54,266
And sitting there,
when it was my turn,

558
00:23:54,349 --> 00:23:57,310
I said, "I don't know
what I'm gonna do,

559
00:23:57,394 --> 00:24:00,522
but I know it's gonna
involve traveling

560
00:24:00,605 --> 00:24:03,650
and it's not gonna be
something that's stationary."

561
00:24:03,733 --> 00:24:04,860
(upbeat music)

562
00:24:04,943 --> 00:24:06,111
DAVE: When did you
move to America?

563
00:24:06,194 --> 00:24:07,362
I was 17.

564
00:24:08,530 --> 00:24:11,950
I put an ad in The
Recycler and I said,

565
00:24:12,033 --> 00:24:14,536
"Drummer, looking for
other people to perform

566
00:24:14,619 --> 00:24:15,996
hard rock heavy
metal band with."

567
00:24:16,079 --> 00:24:18,790
And then about six months
later, I got a call

568
00:24:18,874 --> 00:24:20,709
from a guy named James Hetfield.

569
00:24:20,792 --> 00:24:22,961
We became friends.

570
00:24:23,044 --> 00:24:26,882
When we became friends
and he sort of got bit

571
00:24:26,965 --> 00:24:28,967
by the new wave of British
heavy metal bug also,

572
00:24:29,050 --> 00:24:32,387
I mean, he was into Aerosmith
and Scorpions and Judas Priest

573
00:24:32,471 --> 00:24:33,513
and Iron Maiden and so on,

574
00:24:33,597 --> 00:24:35,348
but he didn't really know

575
00:24:35,432 --> 00:24:39,144
about Hollow Ground,
about Sledgehammer.

576
00:24:39,227 --> 00:24:41,479
And so when we've gone
into all that stuff

577
00:24:41,563 --> 00:24:44,733
he got sort of
obsessed with it also.

578
00:24:44,816 --> 00:24:47,569
And then it was
like, what can we do?

579
00:24:47,652 --> 00:24:50,322
And maybe we should start
writing our own songs

580
00:24:50,405 --> 00:24:53,325
and all that started happening.

581
00:24:53,408 --> 00:24:55,994
DAVE: Is this the only band
you've really ever been in?

582
00:24:56,077 --> 00:24:58,663
Metallica's the only band
I've ever been in, yes.

583
00:24:58,747 --> 00:24:59,706
(Dave laughing)

584
00:24:59,789 --> 00:25:00,665
What a dick.

585
00:25:02,500 --> 00:25:03,752
How many years have
you been together?

586
00:25:03,835 --> 00:25:05,378
Well,

587
00:25:05,462 --> 00:25:07,589
if you count the earlier years,

588
00:25:07,672 --> 00:25:09,424
it's over 40 years.

589
00:25:10,467 --> 00:25:12,427
Yeah. It's a long time.

590
00:25:12,510 --> 00:25:13,720
It's like a fucking
arranged marriage.

591
00:25:13,803 --> 00:25:15,764
(The Edge laughing)

592
00:25:15,847 --> 00:25:17,390
What the fuck.
Yeah.

593
00:25:17,474 --> 00:25:19,392
How long before you actually
got in front of people

594
00:25:19,476 --> 00:25:20,435
and played a song?

595
00:25:20,519 --> 00:25:23,188
We were probably a year,

596
00:25:23,271 --> 00:25:25,941
I would think, or certainly
the guts of a year

597
00:25:26,024 --> 00:25:29,861
before we had the courage
to play in front of anyone.

598
00:25:29,945 --> 00:25:34,950
And it was a small gig in
the gymnasium of the school.

599
00:25:35,825 --> 00:25:37,410
Having like argued for ages

600
00:25:37,494 --> 00:25:39,120
about what we were gonna play,

601
00:25:39,204 --> 00:25:42,290
we ended up voting for a
song that Bono sang the best

602
00:25:42,374 --> 00:25:44,459
which was a Peter Frampton
song of all things.

603
00:25:44,542 --> 00:25:45,585
"Show Me the Way."

604
00:25:45,669 --> 00:25:49,631
♪ I wonder how you're feeling ♪

605
00:25:49,714 --> 00:25:52,133
♪ There's ringing in my ears ♪

606
00:25:52,217 --> 00:25:55,637
So we played "Show Me the
Way" and Bono nailed it.

607
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:56,930
He's sang it really well

608
00:25:57,013 --> 00:26:00,809
and we kind of played
in tune and in time

609
00:26:00,892 --> 00:26:04,062
and the whole gymnasium
went completely bezerk.

610
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,565
And I think that was
kind of the light went on

611
00:26:07,649 --> 00:26:09,067
pretty much at that moment.

612
00:26:09,150 --> 00:26:12,070
Everyone just went wow.

613
00:26:12,153 --> 00:26:14,990
No one really picks
up a guitar and says,

614
00:26:15,073 --> 00:26:17,200
"I want a million
dollar record contract."

615
00:26:18,326 --> 00:26:20,078
You pick up a guitar
and yeah, it'd be great

616
00:26:20,161 --> 00:26:21,496
to be able to feed your pie hole

617
00:26:21,579 --> 00:26:23,581
but people are responding
to the relationship

618
00:26:23,665 --> 00:26:27,085
you have with
yourself, your own soul

619
00:26:27,168 --> 00:26:28,586
and how it reflects to them.

620
00:26:28,670 --> 00:26:30,505
And they're responding
to the connection

621
00:26:30,588 --> 00:26:32,757
and commitment to the
sound you're making.

622
00:26:34,050 --> 00:26:35,885
The next logical step is

623
00:26:37,554 --> 00:26:38,680
you put a band together

624
00:26:40,015 --> 00:26:41,182
and get in a van.

625
00:26:42,350 --> 00:26:43,852
And go out and
conquer the world.

626
00:26:43,935 --> 00:26:46,563
(upbeat music)

627
00:26:47,897 --> 00:26:52,902
♪ Yeah ♪

628
00:26:54,362 --> 00:26:56,823
♪ Well, we've been to London
and we've been to LA ♪

629
00:26:56,906 --> 00:26:59,284
♪ Spain, New Zealand,
and the USA ♪

630
00:26:59,367 --> 00:27:01,870
♪ Touring, touring,
is never boring ♪

631
00:27:01,953 --> 00:27:04,205
♪ Touring, touring,
is never boring ♪

632
00:27:04,289 --> 00:27:07,042
♪ Touring, touring,
is never boring ♪

633
00:27:07,125 --> 00:27:10,211
♪ Touring, touring,
oh baby, touring ♪

634
00:27:10,295 --> 00:27:12,505
DAVE: Every band story is unique

635
00:27:12,589 --> 00:27:16,134
but on some level
they're all the same.

636
00:27:16,217 --> 00:27:17,635
It's about connection.

637
00:27:17,719 --> 00:27:19,554
What were some of
the first gigs like?

638
00:27:19,637 --> 00:27:21,473
Well, our first
gig ever actually

639
00:27:21,556 --> 00:27:24,851
a band dropped off of a
Fishbone gig in Kansas.

640
00:27:24,934 --> 00:27:27,729
♪ Oh ♪

641
00:27:27,812 --> 00:27:29,564
♪ Oh ♪

642
00:27:31,232 --> 00:27:32,400
You say it!

643
00:27:32,484 --> 00:27:34,152
The first gig ever was
super big and awesome.

644
00:27:34,235 --> 00:27:36,237
We were like, "Whoa, we gotta
book another gig like now.

645
00:27:36,321 --> 00:27:37,739
We're huge. Let's do this.

646
00:27:37,822 --> 00:27:41,826
And then next gig, fucking
like five people, you know?

647
00:27:41,910 --> 00:27:43,370
It was like the best because
then you never gave up

648
00:27:43,453 --> 00:27:44,746
because you're like, dude,

649
00:27:44,829 --> 00:27:46,915
'cause it can be
that first show.

650
00:27:46,998 --> 00:27:50,001
That show kind of showed
us that, you know,

651
00:27:50,085 --> 00:27:52,420
we could get to there someday.

652
00:27:52,504 --> 00:27:54,339
Like for real, you know.

653
00:27:54,422 --> 00:27:57,926
The few shows after
that was like oh,

654
00:27:58,009 --> 00:27:59,177
back to reality.

655
00:27:59,260 --> 00:28:02,347
(upbeat rock music)

656
00:28:04,849 --> 00:28:06,101
Touring is hard.
Mm-hmm.

657
00:28:06,184 --> 00:28:07,685
But you just can't find anything

658
00:28:07,769 --> 00:28:10,772
like pulling into a truck
stop at three in the morning.

659
00:28:10,855 --> 00:28:11,940
There's no way.

660
00:28:12,023 --> 00:28:14,192
Also touring is
such a necessity now

661
00:28:14,275 --> 00:28:18,238
because it's the only
real exposure you can get.

662
00:28:18,321 --> 00:28:21,032
(soft music)

663
00:28:21,116 --> 00:28:23,785
MAN: Load in at two o'clock.

664
00:28:26,329 --> 00:28:27,622
DAVE: You know,
when you're young

665
00:28:27,705 --> 00:28:29,874
and you pick up an instrument
for the first time,

666
00:28:29,958 --> 00:28:32,877
you really don't
imagine that someday

667
00:28:32,961 --> 00:28:35,088
you'll be the one
writing the songs

668
00:28:35,171 --> 00:28:39,050
and you'll be the one traveling
the country or the world

669
00:28:39,134 --> 00:28:42,053
sharing your music
with other people.

670
00:28:43,179 --> 00:28:45,390
What song are you gonna
open with tonight?

671
00:28:45,473 --> 00:28:46,975
DAVE: Uh, I don't
know the name of it.

672
00:28:47,058 --> 00:28:49,894
What's the name?
Oh, I'm sorry.

673
00:28:49,978 --> 00:28:51,604
DAVE: But then once
you start sharing it

674
00:28:51,688 --> 00:28:52,814
with other people

675
00:28:52,897 --> 00:28:55,650
and you see the
joy that it brings

676
00:28:55,733 --> 00:28:58,903
and you see the love and
everyone singing along

677
00:28:58,987 --> 00:29:02,073
and dancing, and that
becomes your mission.

678
00:29:02,157 --> 00:29:04,659
The connection to the
audience becomes your mission.

679
00:29:04,742 --> 00:29:06,953
(audience cheering)

680
00:29:07,036 --> 00:29:08,913
We're the Foo Fighters.

681
00:29:10,331 --> 00:29:13,251
This is the first
show of our tour.

682
00:29:15,170 --> 00:29:18,923
And we're gonna do a song
that we wrote three ago.

683
00:29:19,007 --> 00:29:22,927
To kick off our first
part of the tour.

684
00:29:23,011 --> 00:29:24,846
It's called "My Hero."

685
00:29:24,929 --> 00:29:26,598
(upbeat music)

686
00:29:26,681 --> 00:29:31,436
It's one of the reasons why
I still have the first van

687
00:29:31,519 --> 00:29:33,104
that the Foo Fighters toured in.

688
00:29:34,272 --> 00:29:36,900
I'm thankful that I
had those experiences

689
00:29:38,359 --> 00:29:42,655
just trying to get
the gear up on stage,

690
00:29:42,739 --> 00:29:44,949
be the best band
anyone's ever seen,

691
00:29:45,033 --> 00:29:47,952
get it back in the van and
make it to the next city.

692
00:29:48,036 --> 00:29:51,289
♪ There goes my hero ♪

693
00:29:51,372 --> 00:29:54,626
♪ Watch him as he goes ♪

694
00:29:54,709 --> 00:29:56,294
Because there's no guarantee

695
00:29:57,253 --> 00:29:59,214
that it will ever pay off.

696
00:30:01,591 --> 00:30:05,178
The reward has to
be the experience.

697
00:30:05,261 --> 00:30:07,305
Without there being
any career aspiration,

698
00:30:07,388 --> 00:30:08,806
why on earth would you do it?

699
00:30:11,226 --> 00:30:13,228
It's a drive to see other places

700
00:30:13,311 --> 00:30:14,896
and have different experiences.

701
00:30:14,979 --> 00:30:17,065
I mean, I think that was
part of American culture.

702
00:30:17,148 --> 00:30:18,316
That was one of the
really great things

703
00:30:18,399 --> 00:30:20,735
that was handed down
to us was this idea

704
00:30:20,818 --> 00:30:23,029
that you could go hitchhike,
you could go on a bus,

705
00:30:23,112 --> 00:30:25,573
you could go do all this stuff

706
00:30:25,657 --> 00:30:27,992
and see other parts of America

707
00:30:28,076 --> 00:30:30,995
which were different
than where you grew up.

708
00:30:31,079 --> 00:30:32,497
So I'm in a band.

709
00:30:32,580 --> 00:30:35,166
What would you say I would
have to do to make it?

710
00:30:35,250 --> 00:30:38,211
How many thousands of
times have you heard that?

711
00:30:38,294 --> 00:30:39,754
What's the answer?

712
00:30:39,837 --> 00:30:43,258
Well, you gotta, which will
be very hard to do nowadays,

713
00:30:43,341 --> 00:30:48,346
but you got to play clubs
until you can't anymore.

714
00:30:49,264 --> 00:30:50,098
Because you played clubs,

715
00:30:50,181 --> 00:30:52,100
not until you didn't want to,

716
00:30:52,183 --> 00:30:55,019
you had to until you got good.

717
00:30:55,103 --> 00:30:57,438
I will still to this day
talk to the band and go,

718
00:30:57,522 --> 00:31:00,525
"You guys, we have to
have a meeting together.

719
00:31:00,608 --> 00:31:01,943
Stop bullshit phone and lawyers,

720
00:31:02,026 --> 00:31:04,362
we gotta just get together."

721
00:31:04,445 --> 00:31:06,281
Because that's what this was.

722
00:31:06,364 --> 00:31:07,949
We would talk about
the show afterwards,

723
00:31:08,032 --> 00:31:11,369
you ride down the road and
suddenly it's fucking snowing.

724
00:31:11,452 --> 00:31:13,079
This is what we had.

725
00:31:13,162 --> 00:31:14,038
Look at those.

726
00:31:14,122 --> 00:31:16,541
Those are the windshield wipers.

727
00:31:17,500 --> 00:31:18,543
The fuck.

728
00:31:18,626 --> 00:31:21,045
You have to pound the payment.

729
00:31:21,129 --> 00:31:22,046
You have to put in the miles.

730
00:31:22,130 --> 00:31:24,799
There's no way to recreate

731
00:31:24,882 --> 00:31:29,554
or even initially create
that type of momentum

732
00:31:29,637 --> 00:31:34,642
without getting behind
the wheel of a vehicle.

733
00:31:35,476 --> 00:31:36,644
What used to be our Thomas Guide

734
00:31:36,728 --> 00:31:38,229
is now just a push
of a button, right?

735
00:31:38,313 --> 00:31:40,315
But you still have
to follow directions,

736
00:31:40,398 --> 00:31:42,734
follow instructions to
get to where you're going.

737
00:31:42,817 --> 00:31:45,653
I mean, nobody would
ever want to get in a van

738
00:31:45,737 --> 00:31:49,824
with their families and
drive for 20 minutes, right?

739
00:31:49,907 --> 00:31:51,451
But here you are and here we are

740
00:31:51,534 --> 00:31:54,579
getting in a Ford Econoline van

741
00:31:56,748 --> 00:31:57,999
and setting sail

742
00:32:00,418 --> 00:32:02,420
with complete strangers.

743
00:32:04,088 --> 00:32:05,673
For that moment,

744
00:32:06,674 --> 00:32:08,092
that is the dream.

745
00:32:08,176 --> 00:32:11,429
(upbeat music)

746
00:32:11,512 --> 00:32:12,680
You're pirates.

747
00:32:12,764 --> 00:32:16,434
Like you're fucking
pirates and you have

748
00:32:16,517 --> 00:32:19,937
decided that this is
gonna be your life

749
00:32:20,021 --> 00:32:23,107
and you don't see any
other alternatives.

750
00:32:23,191 --> 00:32:25,443
It's not like, well, I'll
do this for a little bit

751
00:32:25,526 --> 00:32:27,695
before I start my data entry job

752
00:32:27,779 --> 00:32:31,991
it really was like a clear
delineation of like okay,

753
00:32:32,075 --> 00:32:35,370
you're a freak and you're
choosing a crazy thing.

754
00:32:35,453 --> 00:32:39,457
And this is the straight life
over here and you swerved.

755
00:32:39,540 --> 00:32:42,168
♪ How can anybody have you ♪

756
00:32:42,251 --> 00:32:44,879
♪ How can anybody have
you and lose you ♪

757
00:32:44,962 --> 00:32:47,173
♪ How can anybody have
you and lose you ♪

758
00:32:47,256 --> 00:32:49,801
♪ And not lose
their minds, too ♪

759
00:32:49,884 --> 00:32:54,472
By week four or week five,
or sometimes even day five,

760
00:32:54,555 --> 00:32:58,559
you just get this sort
of tour crazies where

761
00:33:00,436 --> 00:33:04,232
you are part zombie
from the routine,

762
00:33:04,315 --> 00:33:06,317
like a cooped up little kid

763
00:33:06,401 --> 00:33:08,319
because you've been
sitting for eight hours

764
00:33:08,403 --> 00:33:10,446
or whatever in the
van so you just

765
00:33:11,489 --> 00:33:13,324
want to freak out.

766
00:33:13,408 --> 00:33:16,077
And it helps.

767
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,372
It helps to have people
you can freak out with.

768
00:33:19,455 --> 00:33:24,335
I think a lot of the attraction

769
00:33:24,419 --> 00:33:26,587
to doing this was the unknown.

770
00:33:26,671 --> 00:33:28,589
Just not knowing. You know?

771
00:33:28,673 --> 00:33:30,007
You grow up, you live your life

772
00:33:30,091 --> 00:33:34,762
with certain responsibilities
and rules and routines.

773
00:33:36,180 --> 00:33:40,768
This to me seemed like it
just went against all of that.

774
00:33:41,686 --> 00:33:42,687
That you're free.

775
00:33:43,688 --> 00:33:44,856
You know?

776
00:33:44,939 --> 00:33:47,275
When the Foo Fighters
first started as a band,

777
00:33:47,358 --> 00:33:48,693
anyone that interviewed us

778
00:33:49,861 --> 00:33:52,155
really just wanted to
talk about our past.

779
00:33:53,781 --> 00:33:55,366
INTERVIEWER: The impetus
to create some stuff

780
00:33:55,450 --> 00:33:56,951
was not stemming at
all from Kurt's death

781
00:33:57,034 --> 00:33:58,202
but it was actually stemming

782
00:33:58,286 --> 00:33:59,746
from the fact that
Nirvana broke up.

783
00:33:59,829 --> 00:34:01,539
DAVE: Shit, it's a surprise
when anyone commits suicide

784
00:34:01,622 --> 00:34:03,750
even if they say they're
gonna do it, look at Darby.

785
00:34:03,833 --> 00:34:05,042
Yeah.

786
00:34:05,126 --> 00:34:06,544
Yeah. (laughing)

787
00:34:06,627 --> 00:34:08,212
DAVE: What? What was that?

788
00:34:08,296 --> 00:34:10,631
Just yeah, I'm not
interested in this part.

789
00:34:10,715 --> 00:34:12,425
And did you look
at sitting at home

790
00:34:12,508 --> 00:34:13,634
was a period of
mourning kind of thing

791
00:34:13,718 --> 00:34:14,969
and then then Foo
Fighters is it now.

792
00:34:15,052 --> 00:34:18,473
Well, of course, but yeah.

793
00:34:19,390 --> 00:34:20,725
Yeah, sure.

794
00:34:20,808 --> 00:34:24,395
We kind of felt like we needed
to have some experiences

795
00:34:24,479 --> 00:34:26,481
of our own, you know,

796
00:34:26,564 --> 00:34:27,565
go out and do stuff.

797
00:34:30,151 --> 00:34:30,985
So,

798
00:34:32,570 --> 00:34:34,155
the van just made perfect sense.

799
00:34:35,031 --> 00:34:36,157
We went on our first tour.

800
00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:38,493
It was, I mean,
it was bare bones.

801
00:34:38,576 --> 00:34:39,994
It wasn't, there was no

802
00:34:41,245 --> 00:34:44,290
rock royalty superstar review.

803
00:34:44,373 --> 00:34:45,374
I mean, it was like,

804
00:34:46,417 --> 00:34:48,503
we were hurting, you know?

805
00:34:48,586 --> 00:34:51,088
Look at Pat's feet!
Disgusting.

806
00:34:51,172 --> 00:34:52,256
DAVE: Oh!

807
00:34:54,926 --> 00:34:55,760
What?

808
00:34:55,843 --> 00:34:58,888
(upbeat rock music)

809
00:35:02,517 --> 00:35:04,393
Getting the big dick?

810
00:35:06,354 --> 00:35:09,440
That's the room, that's the
room penis, right there.

811
00:35:09,524 --> 00:35:12,860
No way.
That was the room penis.

812
00:35:12,944 --> 00:35:15,112
WOMAN: Hi. (laughing)

813
00:35:15,196 --> 00:35:17,198
Anything-
Let's get the boys

814
00:35:17,281 --> 00:35:18,115
changing now.

815
00:35:18,199 --> 00:35:19,367
Yeah, let's get the boys-

816
00:35:19,450 --> 00:35:22,203
Hi, I've got to put
on some dry clothes.

817
00:35:22,286 --> 00:35:25,540
WOMAN: Okay, Dave, we'll let
you have some privacy. Okay.

818
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,462
PAT: Oh, it's like
kitchen is open.

819
00:35:31,546 --> 00:35:34,048
Peanut butter and
jelly sandwich.

820
00:35:39,887 --> 00:35:40,888
Can I have a bite?

821
00:35:42,723 --> 00:35:45,726
Rock over London,
rock on Chicago.

822
00:35:47,645 --> 00:35:49,146
Choosy mothers choose Jif.

823
00:35:50,606 --> 00:35:52,650
I like how the stools
are really small.

824
00:35:52,733 --> 00:35:55,403
I like that, that's great.

825
00:35:55,486 --> 00:35:56,988
Shooting the breeze
kind of this?

826
00:35:57,071 --> 00:35:58,239
Yeah.
Well, dude.

827
00:35:58,322 --> 00:35:59,156
You're social.

828
00:36:01,617 --> 00:36:02,493
What?

829
00:36:02,577 --> 00:36:05,580
Driving around the Midwest and-

830
00:36:05,663 --> 00:36:09,250
Actually Tanya Tucker's
tour bus From the 80s.

831
00:36:09,333 --> 00:36:10,918
We hustled into a van.

832
00:36:11,002 --> 00:36:12,837
I've never been in a
band where somebody

833
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,256
loaded your gear for you
and set your shit up.

834
00:36:15,339 --> 00:36:17,758
But they had spray
painted their van silver,

835
00:36:17,842 --> 00:36:19,010
remember that?

836
00:36:19,093 --> 00:36:21,429
His car broke, he
had to borrow mine.

837
00:36:21,512 --> 00:36:22,680
But could you guys imagine

838
00:36:22,763 --> 00:36:25,266
if we would have started,

839
00:36:25,349 --> 00:36:28,519
done the first tour in a bus

840
00:36:28,603 --> 00:36:31,230
how different it
would have been?

841
00:36:31,314 --> 00:36:33,357
I think it goes back to
everything that you said

842
00:36:33,441 --> 00:36:37,778
that we had just become a
band and had we done that,

843
00:36:37,862 --> 00:36:39,780
we probably never would have
made it through the first year.

844
00:36:39,864 --> 00:36:41,866
To this day, we'll get
off the rental jet,

845
00:36:41,949 --> 00:36:45,119
the van with wings
and we all still cram

846
00:36:45,202 --> 00:36:47,163
in the same fucking
van so it's...

847
00:36:50,124 --> 00:36:50,958
Pat.

848
00:36:52,376 --> 00:36:54,211
Did you ever tour in a van
before the Foo Fighters?

849
00:36:54,295 --> 00:36:55,421
No.

850
00:36:55,504 --> 00:36:57,798
My first band tour
with you guys.

851
00:36:57,882 --> 00:36:58,966
So when you joined Nirvana,

852
00:36:59,050 --> 00:36:59,926
that was first time
you'd ever gone on tour?

853
00:37:00,009 --> 00:37:01,510
That was my first tour ever.

854
00:37:04,889 --> 00:37:06,807
Red delicious, you
got your ears on?

855
00:37:08,059 --> 00:37:10,895
That's a big 10-4, big buddy.

856
00:37:10,978 --> 00:37:13,648
Germs did a couple
our of town shows,

857
00:37:13,731 --> 00:37:16,150
which was like packing our shit

858
00:37:16,233 --> 00:37:19,487
in Chris Ashford's
two-door Buick Skylark,

859
00:37:19,570 --> 00:37:21,155
you know, drums and the amp.

860
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:22,990
All we had was a
bass amp, a drum set,

861
00:37:23,074 --> 00:37:24,450
and a bass with no case.

862
00:37:24,533 --> 00:37:27,328
And all of us people
crammed in there

863
00:37:27,411 --> 00:37:29,622
and we'd drive to San Francisco
or San Diego or whatever.

864
00:37:29,705 --> 00:37:31,415
You didn't bring a guitar?

865
00:37:31,499 --> 00:37:33,292
I didn't have a guitar,
but then eventually...

866
00:37:33,376 --> 00:37:35,920
(laughing)

867
00:37:36,003 --> 00:37:37,421
Or an amp, so it made it easier

868
00:37:37,505 --> 00:37:40,091
to cram it all into
a Buick Skylark.

869
00:37:40,174 --> 00:37:41,259
♪ Give me, give me this ♪

870
00:37:41,342 --> 00:37:45,846
♪ Give me, give me that ♪

871
00:37:45,930 --> 00:37:48,599
♪ Give me it, now ♪

872
00:37:48,683 --> 00:37:51,310
♪ Give me it ♪

873
00:37:51,394 --> 00:37:53,854
None of us in the bands

874
00:37:53,938 --> 00:37:55,856
had even a thought of going
and doing it somewhere.

875
00:37:55,940 --> 00:37:59,443
And it wasn't till I
remember Black Flag

876
00:37:59,527 --> 00:38:02,029
started doing it more,
like you can do that?

877
00:38:02,113 --> 00:38:05,366
Like you can go around
the country and play
gigs everywhere?

878
00:38:05,449 --> 00:38:06,534
I just figured

879
00:38:06,617 --> 00:38:09,620
because every one of
my bands sucked so bad,

880
00:38:09,704 --> 00:38:12,373
why would I want to
take that anywhere else

881
00:38:12,456 --> 00:38:14,125
and make anyone else
have to listen to that?

882
00:38:14,208 --> 00:38:15,376
I had no idea that-

883
00:38:15,459 --> 00:38:17,044
That anyone would even
want to see it, right?

884
00:38:17,128 --> 00:38:18,963
Like why would we
go to another state?

885
00:38:19,046 --> 00:38:20,881
They don't know us,
they don't wanna see us.

886
00:38:20,965 --> 00:38:22,383
Yeah, and I just
didn't even know

887
00:38:22,466 --> 00:38:23,801
that the network existed.

888
00:38:23,884 --> 00:38:25,553
Do you wanna hear my take on

889
00:38:25,636 --> 00:38:28,514
the American punk
touring network

890
00:38:28,597 --> 00:38:30,975
and the vans that followed it?

891
00:38:31,058 --> 00:38:31,892
Okay.

892
00:38:31,976 --> 00:38:33,310
Band number one, D.O.A.

893
00:38:34,311 --> 00:38:37,398
(upbeat rock music)

894
00:38:39,650 --> 00:38:43,487
1979, D.O.A. from
Vancouver, Canada,

895
00:38:43,571 --> 00:38:44,739
they wanted to go play.

896
00:38:44,822 --> 00:38:47,199
Okay, so D.O.A. was
the first band to tour.

897
00:38:47,283 --> 00:38:50,036
First band that had a
band that had a band.

898
00:38:50,119 --> 00:38:51,162
IAN: They were connected

899
00:38:51,245 --> 00:38:53,164
to the Youth
International Party.

900
00:38:53,247 --> 00:38:56,917
They then knew that (indistinct)
so they booked a tour

901
00:38:57,001 --> 00:39:00,546
for D.O.A. that took them
around the country in 1979

902
00:39:00,629 --> 00:39:03,215
including here in
Washington at Madam's Organ.

903
00:39:03,299 --> 00:39:04,425
They did the circuit.

904
00:39:04,508 --> 00:39:06,510
They go through LA,
they meet Black Flag.

905
00:39:07,928 --> 00:39:09,013
And then they're like, "You
got to come to Vancouver."

906
00:39:09,096 --> 00:39:11,057
So Black Flag
makes their way up.

907
00:39:11,140 --> 00:39:14,351
They play San Francisco, maybe
Portland, Seattle, Vancouver.

908
00:39:14,435 --> 00:39:16,771
And they meet up
with the D.O.A. guys.

909
00:39:16,854 --> 00:39:19,106
And Bukowski sits down
with him and says,

910
00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:20,441
"Can I get your numbers?"

911
00:39:20,524 --> 00:39:21,692
DURR: It was a sheet.

912
00:39:21,776 --> 00:39:24,028
And it had all the
clubs you could play.

913
00:39:24,111 --> 00:39:28,240
had the guy's number
who ran the club.

914
00:39:28,324 --> 00:39:30,201
It had like another number

915
00:39:30,284 --> 00:39:32,369
like a punk rock house
you could crash at.

916
00:39:33,454 --> 00:39:35,289
So then he starts booking a tour

917
00:39:35,373 --> 00:39:36,707
and he's exhaustively,

918
00:39:36,791 --> 00:39:38,209
they start booking and booking.

919
00:39:38,292 --> 00:39:41,420
And they're gonna do a trip
from LA to San Francisco.

920
00:39:41,504 --> 00:39:42,797
They're gonna stop
in San Luis Obispo.

921
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,049
They're gonna just
fill in the blanks.

922
00:39:45,132 --> 00:39:47,051
They were going to for coverage.

923
00:39:47,134 --> 00:39:49,303
And Black Flag, their
first trip across,

924
00:39:49,386 --> 00:39:52,306
they just played so
many places nobody went.

925
00:39:52,389 --> 00:39:54,725
They did all the gig,
the dates they could find

926
00:39:54,809 --> 00:39:56,894
that were D.O.A., but then
they started filling them in.

927
00:39:56,977 --> 00:39:57,895
Then they would get back to LA

928
00:39:57,978 --> 00:39:58,813
and they'd just turn around

929
00:39:58,896 --> 00:40:00,564
and go out and do their B tour.

930
00:40:00,648 --> 00:40:01,774
They just go round and round,

931
00:40:01,857 --> 00:40:04,485
but the whole time
they were developing

932
00:40:04,568 --> 00:40:06,070
like this network.

933
00:40:06,153 --> 00:40:08,239
D.O.A. came in
with the hatchets.

934
00:40:08,322 --> 00:40:10,658
And Black Flag came in
with like the steamer.

935
00:40:10,741 --> 00:40:13,327
(upbeat music)

936
00:40:14,829 --> 00:40:15,663
I don't wanna sound like I'm
blowing smoke up their ass,

937
00:40:15,746 --> 00:40:17,081
but them guys, man.

938
00:40:17,164 --> 00:40:19,750
I mean, a lot of what
I'm doing, I owe them.

939
00:40:19,834 --> 00:40:21,168
They had a different idea.

940
00:40:21,252 --> 00:40:24,130
The Flag guys were very
much a do it kind of thing.

941
00:40:24,213 --> 00:40:25,172
You would not believe
what college radio

942
00:40:25,256 --> 00:40:26,674
was like in them days.

943
00:40:26,757 --> 00:40:28,259
College radio was so terrible,

944
00:40:28,342 --> 00:40:30,427
but then they had a big switch

945
00:40:30,511 --> 00:40:33,013
and all of a sudden every
DJ had their own show

946
00:40:33,097 --> 00:40:34,265
and no playlist.

947
00:40:34,348 --> 00:40:36,183
But it wasn't like
that beginning, man.

948
00:40:36,267 --> 00:40:38,811
Punk wasn't really a
college thing for awhile.

949
00:40:38,894 --> 00:40:40,646
Touring the college circuit,

950
00:40:40,729 --> 00:40:43,023
a lot of that was through
the college radio circuit

951
00:40:43,107 --> 00:40:44,525
who were playing punk rock

952
00:40:44,608 --> 00:40:46,777
and so those where the
connections could be made

953
00:40:46,861 --> 00:40:47,862
so those were the towns,

954
00:40:47,945 --> 00:40:50,447
so they were developing
this network.

955
00:40:50,531 --> 00:40:52,867
The gig seemed like that was
the most control you had,

956
00:40:52,950 --> 00:40:54,952
that situation.

957
00:40:55,035 --> 00:40:57,788
All the 23 hours it took
to get to there, wherever,

958
00:40:57,872 --> 00:40:59,832
for that one hour, the gig.

959
00:40:59,915 --> 00:41:02,168
So everything else is a
flyer, putting out records,

960
00:41:02,251 --> 00:41:04,378
having a band, you
know, put up a name.

961
00:41:04,461 --> 00:41:07,006
all this stuff is to
get people to the gig.

962
00:41:07,089 --> 00:41:08,174
Black Flag!

963
00:41:08,257 --> 00:41:11,635
(upbeat rock music)

964
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,305
To be a punk rocker was
like doing everything

965
00:41:14,388 --> 00:41:16,891
you could to express yourself.

966
00:41:16,974 --> 00:41:19,977
(upbeat rock music)

967
00:41:22,646 --> 00:41:25,399
♪ Look at me, I look at you ♪

968
00:41:25,482 --> 00:41:27,234
♪ What the fuck you gonna do ♪

969
00:41:27,318 --> 00:41:30,738
When I first joined
Scream, I think I was 17

970
00:41:30,821 --> 00:41:33,324
or had just turned 18 years old.

971
00:41:33,407 --> 00:41:36,160
They were an established
band in Washington, DC,

972
00:41:36,243 --> 00:41:37,578
in Virginia, in America.

973
00:41:37,661 --> 00:41:41,749
They were kind of one
of those early American

974
00:41:41,832 --> 00:41:45,252
punk rock bands that traveled.

975
00:41:46,754 --> 00:41:50,674
I had looked at all these
pictures on album sleeves

976
00:41:52,343 --> 00:41:53,928
of punk rock bands

977
00:41:55,512 --> 00:41:57,264
with their sleeping bags
and all their equipment

978
00:41:57,348 --> 00:42:01,727
in a van and unloading
into a club out of the van.

979
00:42:01,810 --> 00:42:03,604
And that to me

980
00:42:04,688 --> 00:42:07,274
just seemed like a dream.

981
00:42:07,358 --> 00:42:11,862
Vans became sort of the
central mode for all the bands.

982
00:42:11,946 --> 00:42:12,863
You lived in your van.

983
00:42:12,947 --> 00:42:14,073
I wanted to be with people

984
00:42:14,156 --> 00:42:15,866
that wanted to
make music, record

985
00:42:15,950 --> 00:42:19,119
and get in the van and
go experience the world.

986
00:42:19,203 --> 00:42:20,913
The physicality of
being in places,

987
00:42:20,996 --> 00:42:22,790
not just hearing about it.

988
00:42:22,873 --> 00:42:25,876
Your own first
person take on it.

989
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,127
There's nothing like it.

990
00:42:27,211 --> 00:42:30,214
I think it's great for
the band in the van

991
00:42:30,297 --> 00:42:32,466
because you get to know
each other, you know,

992
00:42:32,549 --> 00:42:34,051
you're locked in.

993
00:42:34,134 --> 00:42:37,096
You know, I think that was
part of us coming together

994
00:42:37,179 --> 00:42:38,305
as the song says.

995
00:42:38,389 --> 00:42:40,474
You look at this van

996
00:42:40,557 --> 00:42:43,727
and it's like having a
newborn baby or something,

997
00:42:43,811 --> 00:42:48,440
like the amount of like
optimism, the possibilities,

998
00:42:48,524 --> 00:42:51,277
the infinite things that
we can get in this thing

999
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,070
and we can go anywhere.

1000
00:42:53,153 --> 00:42:56,073
We can load all our
shit in here, our drums,

1001
00:42:56,156 --> 00:42:59,076
our amps, all our shit and go.

1002
00:43:00,869 --> 00:43:03,831
I have been able to live a life

1003
00:43:03,914 --> 00:43:06,500
where you could just play
music with your friends

1004
00:43:07,668 --> 00:43:09,795
in front of people and
travel around and do it.

1005
00:43:09,878 --> 00:43:11,922
It was like here's the
golden ticket to Oz.

1006
00:43:12,006 --> 00:43:14,341
Here's the fucking
golden brick pathway.

1007
00:43:14,425 --> 00:43:16,427
Your life is set.

1008
00:43:16,510 --> 00:43:17,845
Your winning.

1009
00:43:17,928 --> 00:43:20,931
(audience cheering)

1010
00:43:25,561 --> 00:43:28,605
(upbeat rock music)

1011
00:43:36,947 --> 00:43:38,365
DAVE: Well, I mean, at
this point in your life,

1012
00:43:38,449 --> 00:43:42,328
like were you just going out
to just go fucking have fun?

1013
00:43:42,411 --> 00:43:46,540
Were you aspiring to be
like a famous musician?

1014
00:43:46,623 --> 00:43:47,875
Were you just
throwing everything...

1015
00:43:47,958 --> 00:43:49,668
I was just being a punk.

1016
00:43:49,752 --> 00:43:52,046
It never occurred to me
to be famous or to be rich

1017
00:43:52,129 --> 00:43:53,297
or to think about it as a job.

1018
00:43:53,380 --> 00:43:55,215
It's sort of like this
would, we gotta go,

1019
00:43:55,299 --> 00:43:56,717
I just wanted to
meet the people.

1020
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,010
I wanted to go, I wanted
to see what was out there.

1021
00:43:58,093 --> 00:44:00,804
You have to know like,
Rollins and I, in 1978

1022
00:44:00,888 --> 00:44:03,390
we took a Greyhound
Bus to California
just go skateboarding.

1023
00:44:03,474 --> 00:44:05,142
I was 16, he was 17.

1024
00:44:05,225 --> 00:44:07,728
So we were just like,
go, just go, go, go, go.

1025
00:44:07,811 --> 00:44:10,064
That was the mission, just go.

1026
00:44:10,147 --> 00:44:11,732
Jeff Nelson, drummer
of Minor Threat

1027
00:44:11,815 --> 00:44:16,403
and also very eccentric,
brilliant like builder.

1028
00:44:16,487 --> 00:44:21,158
He like got in the van,
came up with a design,

1029
00:44:21,241 --> 00:44:22,326
a deck design.

1030
00:44:22,409 --> 00:44:24,495
That was also a huge
part of all vans

1031
00:44:24,578 --> 00:44:27,873
is you've got to make
a really proper design.

1032
00:44:27,956 --> 00:44:30,000
DAVE: You know, every
band had that specific way

1033
00:44:30,084 --> 00:44:31,418
that they would pack
the back of the van.

1034
00:44:31,502 --> 00:44:34,088
You had one way to get the
fucking shit, it's like Tetris.

1035
00:44:34,171 --> 00:44:35,005
Yeah, yeah.
One way

1036
00:44:35,089 --> 00:44:35,839
to get the shit in there.

1037
00:44:35,923 --> 00:44:37,049
Like everything goes in-

1038
00:44:37,132 --> 00:44:38,425
Yeah, I was not that
guy who knew that.

1039
00:44:38,509 --> 00:44:41,095
(upbeat rock music)

1040
00:44:41,178 --> 00:44:42,262
Bands still do that?

1041
00:44:42,346 --> 00:44:43,972
Are they still doing that?
Yes.

1042
00:44:47,518 --> 00:44:49,269
So how long have
you had this one?

1043
00:44:49,353 --> 00:44:51,313
This is a rental.
Yeah.

1044
00:44:52,356 --> 00:44:53,607
This a rental?

1045
00:44:53,690 --> 00:44:54,942
You gonna return it like this?

1046
00:44:55,025 --> 00:44:56,110
Yep.
Yep. (laughing)

1047
00:44:56,193 --> 00:44:57,861
It's a necessity based thing

1048
00:44:57,945 --> 00:44:59,905
to manage the space of the van

1049
00:44:59,988 --> 00:45:02,950
'cause a big empty
hole isn't necessarily

1050
00:45:03,033 --> 00:45:04,785
the most efficient way to go.

1051
00:45:04,868 --> 00:45:07,663
Somehow you break up the space.

1052
00:45:09,289 --> 00:45:11,125
Some people will go horizontally

1053
00:45:11,208 --> 00:45:14,044
and have the equipment
in the back area.

1054
00:45:14,128 --> 00:45:15,546
It's a packed van.

1055
00:45:16,713 --> 00:45:17,548
With big fear all
the way at the top.

1056
00:45:17,631 --> 00:45:19,591
You can't see out the back.

1057
00:45:19,675 --> 00:45:20,884
It's not the safest.

1058
00:45:20,968 --> 00:45:22,636
DAVE: All right, show me
how you pack this thing.

1059
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,054
Oh, yeah

1060
00:45:24,138 --> 00:45:25,806
Back in the day explain
how you would pack

1061
00:45:25,889 --> 00:45:27,307
and load your van.

1062
00:45:27,391 --> 00:45:30,269
First, man, (indistinct)

1063
00:45:30,352 --> 00:45:32,730
you unload all the
gear, man, right?

1064
00:45:32,813 --> 00:45:34,314
And then we take something

1065
00:45:34,398 --> 00:45:36,650
and we have to
throw the people out

1066
00:45:36,733 --> 00:45:38,610
and put a mattress there

1067
00:45:38,694 --> 00:45:40,737
so we can have place
to sleep, you see?

1068
00:45:40,821 --> 00:45:43,991
And then we move all
the gear in there.

1069
00:45:44,074 --> 00:45:47,536
And microwave built
and little how you say?

1070
00:45:49,204 --> 00:45:50,038
Loft.

1071
00:45:51,915 --> 00:45:55,836
Okay. Let's go for a 3000
mile trip around the country.

1072
00:45:55,919 --> 00:45:57,421
So how many miles are
you gonna put on this

1073
00:45:57,504 --> 00:45:58,589
before you bring it back?

1074
00:45:58,672 --> 00:46:00,257
Oh man, we're
gonna put probably,

1075
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,012
probably put 6,000
on this, this trip.

1076
00:46:05,095 --> 00:46:06,597
Shit.

1077
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,765
How many tours do you think
you've been on at this point?

1078
00:46:08,849 --> 00:46:10,768
Oh my God. I don't know.

1079
00:46:10,851 --> 00:46:12,936
50, 60, 70, more.

1080
00:46:13,020 --> 00:46:14,521
More, more probably.
I bet more.

1081
00:46:14,605 --> 00:46:15,689
Yeah.
How many tours

1082
00:46:15,772 --> 00:46:18,692
have you done in
America at this point?

1083
00:46:18,775 --> 00:46:19,776
US ones?

1084
00:46:21,445 --> 00:46:22,821
Probably more than
Europe. Right?

1085
00:46:22,905 --> 00:46:26,325
And I know if you call a
tour more than a month,

1086
00:46:26,408 --> 00:46:29,745
I just did 67 so maybe 35, 37?

1087
00:46:32,247 --> 00:46:34,041
DAVE: And this last tour?

1088
00:46:34,124 --> 00:46:37,836
This one was (indistinct)
tour, named after my pop,

1089
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,963
it was 45 gigs, 45 days.

1090
00:46:40,047 --> 00:46:43,383
That's about 13,380 miles

1091
00:46:43,467 --> 00:46:44,968
and I drove every one of them.

1092
00:46:46,553 --> 00:46:50,474
I feel so grateful to
have had that experience,

1093
00:46:50,557 --> 00:46:52,559
to have like that have been,

1094
00:46:52,643 --> 00:46:54,478
like every step of the way of
the Chili Peppers, you know,

1095
00:46:54,561 --> 00:46:57,147
it's like we did every
little step, you know?

1096
00:46:57,231 --> 00:46:59,483
And first it was a van then
we moved up to the U-Hauls

1097
00:46:59,566 --> 00:47:00,901
then you could lay
down in the back

1098
00:47:00,984 --> 00:47:02,736
and you had like a little
mattress back there.

1099
00:47:02,819 --> 00:47:06,156
You know, you could sleep
with in Chad Smith's feet

1100
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:07,157
in your fucking mouth.

1101
00:47:07,241 --> 00:47:08,408
You know what I mean?

1102
00:47:08,492 --> 00:47:11,245
But you'd get little
shut eye, you know?

1103
00:47:11,328 --> 00:47:13,372
And then, you know, then
we moved to the mobile home

1104
00:47:13,455 --> 00:47:16,333
and that was massive,
the Winnebago, you know.

1105
00:47:16,416 --> 00:47:19,253
And then the first shitty bus
with the crack head driver,

1106
00:47:19,336 --> 00:47:20,671
you know what I mean?

1107
00:47:20,754 --> 00:47:22,548
We were just driving
to pick up hitchhikers

1108
00:47:22,631 --> 00:47:23,674
and shit on a bus.

1109
00:47:23,757 --> 00:47:24,424
What?

1110
00:47:24,508 --> 00:47:25,717
When you go out there

1111
00:47:25,801 --> 00:47:26,927
and there's some like
weird methed out girls

1112
00:47:27,010 --> 00:47:28,512
in the front with the driver,

1113
00:47:28,595 --> 00:47:30,264
and you're like who is this?

1114
00:47:30,347 --> 00:47:33,517
We did the caravan of
cars, personal cars, right?

1115
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,018
We got to experience
that part of the band.

1116
00:47:35,102 --> 00:47:38,438
Then we got to experience
the 15 passenger van

1117
00:47:38,522 --> 00:47:39,690
with a trailer.

1118
00:47:39,773 --> 00:47:41,525
Then we graduated
to 15 passenger van

1119
00:47:41,608 --> 00:47:42,859
with a cargo van.

1120
00:47:42,943 --> 00:47:46,405
Then we graduate to the
one bus, band and crew.

1121
00:47:46,488 --> 00:47:49,366
Then you graduate to two buses,

1122
00:47:49,449 --> 00:47:50,951
the band on one bus,
the crew on one.

1123
00:47:51,034 --> 00:47:53,870
And then you graduate
to everyone gets
their own bus, right?

1124
00:47:53,954 --> 00:47:56,373
So we kind of got to
experience all of that.

1125
00:47:56,456 --> 00:47:59,084
And it was all
bit by bit by bit.

1126
00:47:59,167 --> 00:48:00,919
So you appreciate it.

1127
00:48:01,003 --> 00:48:02,629
You appreciate the
fuck out of it.

1128
00:48:02,713 --> 00:48:05,215
That wow, I'm on my own bus.

1129
00:48:05,299 --> 00:48:06,633
You know?

1130
00:48:06,717 --> 00:48:08,302
And then when you can start
taking a crap on buses,

1131
00:48:08,385 --> 00:48:10,470
when that change happened,

1132
00:48:10,554 --> 00:48:11,888
that was massive.

1133
00:48:12,889 --> 00:48:14,766
The Shredder.
The Shredder.

1134
00:48:14,850 --> 00:48:15,642
DAVE: Dude, life changer.

1135
00:48:15,726 --> 00:48:17,269
It's a big deal.
I know.

1136
00:48:17,352 --> 00:48:18,729
That was a big deal.

1137
00:48:18,812 --> 00:48:20,230
Hey, remember this?

1138
00:48:20,314 --> 00:48:22,149
It's a 6140 Econoline,

1139
00:48:22,232 --> 00:48:23,650
the original modern day van.

1140
00:48:23,734 --> 00:48:26,653
And here's a new original,
the 7060 Econoline.

1141
00:48:26,737 --> 00:48:28,822
It's changing van history again.

1142
00:48:28,905 --> 00:48:30,073
Check it out.

1143
00:48:30,157 --> 00:48:32,242
It's the only van with
a strong, separate frame

1144
00:48:32,326 --> 00:48:34,328
and they moved the
engine forward 18 inches

1145
00:48:34,411 --> 00:48:36,997
for more freedom to move
around than in any other van.

1146
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,999
And no matter how your
trick up your Ford,

1147
00:48:39,082 --> 00:48:41,585
there's lots of room
for bags and boats

1148
00:48:41,668 --> 00:48:43,420
and beauties.
Us?

1149
00:48:43,503 --> 00:48:45,672
No, these beauties.

1150
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,926
I was taking my kids
to school one day.

1151
00:48:50,010 --> 00:48:54,348
My daughter Harper said,

1152
00:48:54,431 --> 00:48:56,850
"Dad, everybody's
looking at us."

1153
00:48:56,933 --> 00:48:58,518
And I said, "Yeah.

1154
00:48:58,602 --> 00:49:00,062
So why do you think that is?"

1155
00:49:01,521 --> 00:49:03,607
And she said, "Because all
new cars look the same."

1156
00:49:05,275 --> 00:49:07,277
I said, "Yeah, they kind of do."

1157
00:49:07,361 --> 00:49:12,199
She said, "They're all
gray or black or white.

1158
00:49:12,282 --> 00:49:13,950
There's no colorful cars anymore

1159
00:49:14,034 --> 00:49:16,036
and they're all kind
of the same shape."

1160
00:49:17,037 --> 00:49:18,622
And she was right.

1161
00:49:18,705 --> 00:49:21,083
But there was something
about the style

1162
00:49:27,130 --> 00:49:30,175
and the progression of
style that vans went through

1163
00:49:30,258 --> 00:49:33,387
from the 50 utility
vehicles to the 60s

1164
00:49:33,470 --> 00:49:38,475
to the family vans, to the
70s, super 70 van culture.

1165
00:49:39,893 --> 00:49:42,729
They were such cool looking
machines and you know,

1166
00:49:42,813 --> 00:49:43,980
there's something about

1167
00:49:46,108 --> 00:49:50,445
that aesthetic where when
you're driving something

1168
00:49:51,571 --> 00:49:53,865
that has style,
it's like, you know,

1169
00:49:53,949 --> 00:49:55,742
it's like wearing a suit.

1170
00:49:58,578 --> 00:50:00,080
You can tell a
lot about a person

1171
00:50:00,163 --> 00:50:01,915
by what kind of van that drive.

1172
00:50:04,459 --> 00:50:05,836
Like this piece of shit.

1173
00:50:07,587 --> 00:50:11,258
AUDIENCE: Slayer!
Slayer! Slayer! Slayer!

1174
00:50:13,176 --> 00:50:14,052
DAVE: At what point did you guys

1175
00:50:14,136 --> 00:50:15,679
start to travel out of town?

1176
00:50:17,597 --> 00:50:19,850
We were traveling...

1177
00:50:19,933 --> 00:50:21,518
I would think it
was upon the release

1178
00:50:21,601 --> 00:50:25,272
of the first album is
when we started traveling.

1179
00:50:25,355 --> 00:50:27,023
One of the earliest trips

1180
00:50:27,107 --> 00:50:29,443
I believe we drove
our own vehicles

1181
00:50:29,526 --> 00:50:31,236
up to San Francisco.

1182
00:50:31,319 --> 00:50:33,238
We just did a couple of
shows, one at Ruthie's,

1183
00:50:33,321 --> 00:50:35,198
one at The Stone.

1184
00:50:36,032 --> 00:50:37,242
DAVE: Did you guys think

1185
00:50:37,325 --> 00:50:41,163
that you were going
to be a huge band?

1186
00:50:42,456 --> 00:50:44,374
No, but I knew there
was some special.

1187
00:50:44,458 --> 00:50:46,293
We were attracting fans.

1188
00:50:47,335 --> 00:50:48,879
People were interested.

1189
00:50:48,962 --> 00:50:53,049
And we were slowly beginning
to have a little following,

1190
00:50:53,133 --> 00:50:56,303
especially the clubs
playing in Orange County.

1191
00:50:56,386 --> 00:50:58,930
It was cool because
people were shocked

1192
00:50:59,014 --> 00:51:00,056
when they saw us.

1193
00:51:00,140 --> 00:51:03,143
(upbeat rock music)

1194
00:51:06,563 --> 00:51:09,900
(man screaming)

1195
00:51:09,983 --> 00:51:11,234
MAN: Slayer!

1196
00:51:11,318 --> 00:51:14,154
We were fearless.

1197
00:51:14,237 --> 00:51:18,158
You know, we were just
living life and enjoying it.

1198
00:51:18,241 --> 00:51:23,246
What it came down to was we
were like, we were Slayer.

1199
00:51:24,664 --> 00:51:27,000
We felt like we had this kind
of edge on everybody else,

1200
00:51:27,083 --> 00:51:29,002
on every other band there.

1201
00:51:29,085 --> 00:51:32,172
And it felt awesome.

1202
00:51:32,255 --> 00:51:35,258
(audience cheering)

1203
00:51:40,096 --> 00:51:43,183
(upbeat rock music)

1204
00:51:51,441 --> 00:51:53,193
What is it that makes someone

1205
00:51:53,276 --> 00:51:55,695
want to just jump in the van
with all of their friends

1206
00:51:55,779 --> 00:51:57,781
and disappear for
a couple months?

1207
00:51:57,864 --> 00:52:00,283
Yeah, I think it's
just about like fun.

1208
00:52:00,367 --> 00:52:04,830
Like you don't, it's also not
knowing what could happen.

1209
00:52:04,913 --> 00:52:06,832
Like it could either
be this amazing thing

1210
00:52:06,915 --> 00:52:08,125
or it's gonna be a
total train wreck,

1211
00:52:08,208 --> 00:52:09,709
but even with when
we've been on tour

1212
00:52:09,793 --> 00:52:12,379
and there's like train
wreck terrible moments

1213
00:52:12,462 --> 00:52:14,631
and terrible stories,
we laugh about it later.

1214
00:52:14,714 --> 00:52:17,801
(upbeat rock music)

1215
00:52:32,649 --> 00:52:35,986
God, the fucking days
of being like oh yeah,

1216
00:52:36,069 --> 00:52:41,074
somebody's out of town in
this like Philly row house,

1217
00:52:42,576 --> 00:52:44,202
and there's like a bed free

1218
00:52:44,286 --> 00:52:46,371
and you just find
yourself sleeping

1219
00:52:46,454 --> 00:52:50,083
in just some random gross
bed with like dirty sheets.

1220
00:52:50,166 --> 00:52:51,167
(laughing)

1221
00:52:51,251 --> 00:52:52,502
But it was great.

1222
00:52:52,586 --> 00:52:54,254
This was like, I'm
fucking living.

1223
00:52:54,337 --> 00:52:55,255
This is rad.

1224
00:52:55,338 --> 00:52:57,090
I'm in Philadelphia.

1225
00:52:57,173 --> 00:52:58,425
The third band in 92,

1226
00:52:58,508 --> 00:53:01,011
we went out and started
doing like the Midwest.

1227
00:53:01,094 --> 00:53:05,348
And I remember we played
in Oxford, Mississippi

1228
00:53:05,432 --> 00:53:08,768
and there was like
seven of us on stage

1229
00:53:10,687 --> 00:53:13,565
and no tickets sold to the show.

1230
00:53:13,648 --> 00:53:14,941
Zero, no one's gonna be there.

1231
00:53:15,025 --> 00:53:18,361
So Adrian met some
girls at the motel

1232
00:53:18,445 --> 00:53:20,322
and invited them
to show up on us.

1233
00:53:21,698 --> 00:53:23,116
So they came and so there
was like four of 'em.

1234
00:53:23,199 --> 00:53:26,202
So there's four people watching
the seven of us on stage.

1235
00:53:26,286 --> 00:53:30,415
There's more people on
stage than in the audience

1236
00:53:30,498 --> 00:53:31,750
and it was such a
small little bar

1237
00:53:31,833 --> 00:53:33,376
that like we would
literally take turns

1238
00:53:33,460 --> 00:53:34,920
going in the audience
to balance out

1239
00:53:35,003 --> 00:53:36,212
like how many
people were on stage

1240
00:53:36,296 --> 00:53:37,213
and how many people
were watching the band

1241
00:53:37,297 --> 00:53:39,466
or we watching ourselves.

1242
00:53:39,549 --> 00:53:41,217
Fucking awesome numbers.

1243
00:53:41,301 --> 00:53:44,137
(rain clattering)

1244
00:53:49,351 --> 00:53:51,061
Yeah! Yeah!
Oh, I got it!

1245
00:53:51,144 --> 00:53:52,270
DAVE: You never got
into an accident

1246
00:53:52,354 --> 00:53:53,146
or anything in
your van, did you?

1247
00:53:53,229 --> 00:53:54,481
I've almost died.

1248
00:53:54,564 --> 00:53:56,816
I never got into an
accident, but there was,

1249
00:53:56,900 --> 00:53:59,778
we were driving from, I
think somewhere in Ohio,

1250
00:53:59,861 --> 00:54:03,073
through West Virginia

1251
00:54:03,156 --> 00:54:04,950
and it was winter time.

1252
00:54:05,033 --> 00:54:06,910
We hit black ice
and I'm driving,

1253
00:54:06,993 --> 00:54:08,328
I'm listening to,

1254
00:54:08,411 --> 00:54:09,746
we're listening to Voivod.

1255
00:54:09,829 --> 00:54:12,332
"War and Pain", never
forget, you know.

1256
00:54:12,415 --> 00:54:13,500
And all of a sudden.

1257
00:54:13,583 --> 00:54:15,669
Bam, it was hilarious, man.

1258
00:54:15,752 --> 00:54:18,338
I remember I hit my
head and I kind of,

1259
00:54:18,421 --> 00:54:21,007
it just went black
for a little bit.

1260
00:54:21,091 --> 00:54:23,468
And I opened my eyes, like
oh man, what's going on?

1261
00:54:23,551 --> 00:54:25,178
The car just starts spinning.

1262
00:54:25,261 --> 00:54:26,429
I'm like oh shit.

1263
00:54:26,513 --> 00:54:27,764
I lost control. There's
nothing I could do.

1264
00:54:27,847 --> 00:54:28,848
Music's off.

1265
00:54:28,932 --> 00:54:31,434
Everybody's sat up, you know,

1266
00:54:31,518 --> 00:54:33,979
truly white knuckling
the whole experience.

1267
00:54:34,062 --> 00:54:35,188
It was an hour.

1268
00:54:35,271 --> 00:54:36,439
I'm just driving along
and then suddenly

1269
00:54:36,523 --> 00:54:38,525
seeing a dead piglet on
the side of the road.

1270
00:54:38,608 --> 00:54:40,527
I'm like, "What the fuck?"

1271
00:54:40,610 --> 00:54:42,028
And then I can a couple,

1272
00:54:42,112 --> 00:54:44,781
maybe few seconds
later, another one.

1273
00:54:44,864 --> 00:54:46,032
I was like, "What happened?

1274
00:54:46,116 --> 00:54:47,867
Why are these little
dead piglets here?"

1275
00:54:47,951 --> 00:54:51,204
We're asleep on a mattress
in the back of the van.

1276
00:54:51,287 --> 00:54:53,206
We ended up driving straight

1277
00:54:53,289 --> 00:54:55,834
into an East German
military facility.

1278
00:54:55,917 --> 00:54:59,212
There was all these
truckers high on speed

1279
00:54:59,295 --> 00:55:01,548
and we said we needed
to get to Seattle.

1280
00:55:01,631 --> 00:55:06,636
And all the lads were out with
their machine guns and dogs

1281
00:55:08,138 --> 00:55:09,889
and looking for passports
from the driver and then-

1282
00:55:09,973 --> 00:55:12,475
There was this topless
girl in Detroit.

1283
00:55:12,559 --> 00:55:14,394
She took her leg off
and put a rose in it

1284
00:55:14,477 --> 00:55:15,895
and there's a picture of it.

1285
00:55:16,938 --> 00:55:17,814
You know what?

1286
00:55:17,897 --> 00:55:19,024
It's just how we live. Right?

1287
00:55:19,107 --> 00:55:21,484
And I realized at some
point they were sandbags

1288
00:55:21,568 --> 00:55:23,570
and I was tripping
my fucking brains out

1289
00:55:23,653 --> 00:55:25,238
because I was exhausted.

1290
00:55:25,321 --> 00:55:26,698
I hadn't slept.

1291
00:55:26,781 --> 00:55:28,992
For the whole time I kept
thinking these are dead piglets

1292
00:55:29,075 --> 00:55:31,995
every, who put a dead
piglet every 50 yards?

1293
00:55:32,078 --> 00:55:35,165
(laughing)

1294
00:55:35,248 --> 00:55:39,002
DAVE: What the fuck else in
the world would drive you

1295
00:55:39,085 --> 00:55:41,046
to such lengths to do anything?

1296
00:55:41,129 --> 00:55:43,673
Got to get to the gig, man.
Yeah.

1297
00:55:43,757 --> 00:55:47,177
Being in a van is
basic survival.

1298
00:55:47,260 --> 00:55:48,011
(laughing)

1299
00:55:48,094 --> 00:55:49,512
You know?

1300
00:55:49,596 --> 00:55:51,473
Like someone's gonna have
to learn to build a fire.

1301
00:55:52,849 --> 00:55:56,770
You get to be really,
really close with people,

1302
00:55:56,853 --> 00:56:00,356
like close in a way that
other fucking coworkers

1303
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,276
at the bank couldn't
possibly know.

1304
00:56:03,359 --> 00:56:05,028
It's not that
glamorous to talk about

1305
00:56:05,111 --> 00:56:08,907
but it really takes like
a kind of immaturity

1306
00:56:08,990 --> 00:56:11,117
and innocence to be
on the road in a van

1307
00:56:11,201 --> 00:56:14,370
but also a type of maturity
where you can really tolerate,

1308
00:56:14,454 --> 00:56:17,791
see a bigger picture, have
patience, exercise kindness

1309
00:56:17,874 --> 00:56:20,877
to your fellows who
might be having issues

1310
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,378
because when you're in a group

1311
00:56:22,462 --> 00:56:25,298
and you're in close quarters,
anything that's going on,

1312
00:56:25,381 --> 00:56:28,259
the group knows,
it's a group problem.

1313
00:56:28,343 --> 00:56:31,304
We've had band members who've
lost loved ones early on

1314
00:56:31,387 --> 00:56:32,555
and were in the van.

1315
00:56:32,639 --> 00:56:34,432
We've had people
with drug problems

1316
00:56:34,516 --> 00:56:36,059
getting clean in the van.

1317
00:56:36,142 --> 00:56:37,644
We've had people who were clean

1318
00:56:37,727 --> 00:56:39,562
having drug problems in the van.

1319
00:56:39,646 --> 00:56:41,981
It was really like I
have to deal with today.

1320
00:56:42,065 --> 00:56:44,984
And that's what the van
kind of meant for me.

1321
00:56:45,068 --> 00:56:47,237
You become each
other's support group

1322
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,406
in so many different ways.

1323
00:56:50,490 --> 00:56:54,994
In some really crucial times
in your life, you know?

1324
00:56:55,078 --> 00:56:57,163
MAN: We got DH here.

1325
00:56:57,247 --> 00:56:58,164
I'm the bow legged brother

1326
00:56:58,248 --> 00:56:59,791
that you'll never be another.

1327
00:56:59,874 --> 00:57:01,417
And I still shoot soon.

1328
00:57:01,501 --> 00:57:02,669
(screaming)

1329
00:57:02,752 --> 00:57:04,754
DAVE: At what point did
you start getting high?

1330
00:57:04,838 --> 00:57:07,465
I think it started
with rock and roll.

1331
00:57:07,549 --> 00:57:09,008
(laughing)

1332
00:57:09,092 --> 00:57:10,343
15. I think I was 15.

1333
00:57:10,426 --> 00:57:13,721
I had a couple of beers
and I was like woo! Wow!

1334
00:57:15,098 --> 00:57:17,517
DAVE: And was there
alcoholism in the family?

1335
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,854
It's weird because I never
met my biological father

1336
00:57:20,937 --> 00:57:23,648
but the father I grew up
with definitely an alcoholic.

1337
00:57:23,731 --> 00:57:26,276
Yeah, I mean, he would
drink and get drunk at night

1338
00:57:27,735 --> 00:57:31,447
and come into my room and
stick a shotgun in my face

1339
00:57:31,531 --> 00:57:33,366
and fucking ask
me if I was a man.

1340
00:57:33,449 --> 00:57:36,619
And that was a
typical Friday night.

1341
00:57:36,703 --> 00:57:38,121
"What the fuck, you
a man?" You know?

1342
00:57:38,204 --> 00:57:42,167
And he was just, he was
just, he was a drunk.

1343
00:57:42,250 --> 00:57:43,376
He was a periodic drunk

1344
00:57:43,459 --> 00:57:45,795
because he stayed drunk
for like the weekend,

1345
00:57:45,879 --> 00:57:48,798
and then he was a social
worker throughout the week.

1346
00:57:48,882 --> 00:57:51,926
(upbeat rock music)

1347
00:57:54,387 --> 00:57:57,348
DAVE: So you hit the road
with the Dead Kennedy's

1348
00:57:57,432 --> 00:57:58,725
but you hadn't really
traveled at that point?

1349
00:57:58,808 --> 00:58:00,018
I hadn't, no, I
hadn't been anywhere.

1350
00:58:00,101 --> 00:58:01,144
My first gig was in Sacramento

1351
00:58:01,227 --> 00:58:04,314
and we went across the US

1352
00:58:04,397 --> 00:58:07,692
and we hit the road and fucking
people just want to kill you

1353
00:58:07,775 --> 00:58:08,693
for the color of your skin.

1354
00:58:08,776 --> 00:58:11,362
It's insane. It was crazy.

1355
00:58:11,446 --> 00:58:13,656
Everybody's got a
right to free speech.

1356
00:58:13,740 --> 00:58:14,991
(audience cheering)

1357
00:58:15,074 --> 00:58:19,245
And this song is about
the fucking rednecks

1358
00:58:19,329 --> 00:58:21,247
and the fucking jocks

1359
00:58:21,331 --> 00:58:25,335
who bring in their bullshit
macho attitudes to these shows,

1360
00:58:26,502 --> 00:58:27,921
try to wreck 'em

1361
00:58:29,088 --> 00:58:32,175
by starting fights,

1362
00:58:32,258 --> 00:58:35,595
spreading around their
bullshit racist attitudes.

1363
00:58:35,678 --> 00:58:39,349
And that just fueled
my alcoholism.

1364
00:58:39,432 --> 00:58:40,934
I'm not gonna say that
that pushed me into it,

1365
00:58:41,017 --> 00:58:43,561
but it was quite a nudge

1366
00:58:43,645 --> 00:58:46,564
because then I didn't
talk as much to people

1367
00:58:46,648 --> 00:58:48,942
about like what's
going on internally

1368
00:58:49,025 --> 00:58:50,610
or I definitely didn't talk
to anybody in the band.

1369
00:58:50,693 --> 00:58:52,737
Like, "Hey man, you
know, I feel scared."

1370
00:58:52,820 --> 00:58:53,780
You know?

1371
00:58:53,863 --> 00:58:54,948
I didn't know you could do that.

1372
00:58:55,031 --> 00:58:58,534
Nazi Redneck assholes fuck off.

1373
00:58:58,618 --> 00:59:01,621
(upbeat rock music)

1374
00:59:03,831 --> 00:59:05,291
♪ Nazi punks, Nazi punks ♪

1375
00:59:05,375 --> 00:59:06,709
♪ Nazi punks, fuck off ♪

1376
00:59:06,793 --> 00:59:08,044
♪ Nazi punks, Nazi punks ♪

1377
00:59:08,127 --> 00:59:09,796
♪ Nazi punks, fuck off ♪

1378
00:59:09,879 --> 00:59:12,590
DAVE: Okay. So the Dead
Kennedy's are done.

1379
00:59:12,674 --> 00:59:13,800
Mm-hmm.

1380
00:59:13,883 --> 00:59:15,593
DAVE: And now where
does your life go?

1381
00:59:15,677 --> 00:59:19,430
I moved to Los
Angeles, California

1382
00:59:19,514 --> 00:59:22,308
and we got nothing going on.

1383
00:59:22,392 --> 00:59:25,812
So I'm drinking the morning,
drinking in the afternoon.

1384
00:59:25,895 --> 00:59:28,231
Then I joined the Chili Peppers.

1385
00:59:28,314 --> 00:59:32,485
And then that was like
trying to hide this facade,

1386
00:59:32,568 --> 00:59:36,489
this guy where I'm trying
to hide my addiction.

1387
00:59:36,572 --> 00:59:37,907
♪ In 1819, we took
a little trip ♪

1388
00:59:37,991 --> 00:59:39,742
♪ We went on down to
the mighty Mississippi ♪

1389
00:59:39,826 --> 00:59:42,161
♪ We got a little drunk
and we got a little wine ♪

1390
00:59:42,245 --> 00:59:44,330
♪ Next thing you know,
I was Chili Pepper ♪

1391
00:59:44,414 --> 00:59:46,666
♪ Chilling and cooling so fine ♪

1392
00:59:46,749 --> 00:59:49,794
♪ Fine ♪

1393
00:59:49,877 --> 00:59:51,254
♪ Yeah ♪

1394
00:59:51,337 --> 00:59:53,506
So I just really leaned into it

1395
00:59:53,589 --> 00:59:56,092
and started fucking
shooting dope heavy.

1396
00:59:56,175 --> 00:59:57,844
Like then it was just
like nothing mattered.

1397
00:59:57,927 --> 01:00:01,681
And it started a
whirlwind of shit.

1398
01:00:01,764 --> 01:00:02,849
Now I'm selling shit.

1399
01:00:02,932 --> 01:00:04,309
Sold the van.

1400
01:00:04,392 --> 01:00:08,104
I had motorcycle, van,
classic guitars, muscle car.

1401
01:00:08,187 --> 01:00:10,106
I just sold everything.

1402
01:00:10,189 --> 01:00:13,276
I just didn't give
a shit anymore.

1403
01:00:13,359 --> 01:00:15,862
I started getting fucking
all these abscesses

1404
01:00:15,945 --> 01:00:17,613
and I went up in the hospital.

1405
01:00:17,697 --> 01:00:20,074
This is the first
one, it's about

1406
01:00:21,242 --> 01:00:23,536
it's on my hip, it's
about big as your,

1407
01:00:23,619 --> 01:00:25,038
yeah, like my fist.

1408
01:00:25,121 --> 01:00:27,707
You can see that and
you can see the whole,

1409
01:00:27,790 --> 01:00:29,792
like you can see your
whole hip socket.

1410
01:00:29,876 --> 01:00:33,129
The skin has started to fall
away and like getting rotted

1411
01:00:33,212 --> 01:00:35,798
and necrotic and just
shit was falling out.

1412
01:00:35,882 --> 01:00:39,719
Like I was really playing
in this band, bass, and

1413
01:00:40,928 --> 01:00:43,473
literally a piece of, a
chunk of meat just fell

1414
01:00:43,556 --> 01:00:46,476
down my leg and fell out of
my pants and on the floor.

1415
01:00:46,559 --> 01:00:48,478
They were like, "Dude, you
need to go to the hospital."

1416
01:00:48,561 --> 01:00:51,064
So, I kept bullshitting around.

1417
01:00:51,147 --> 01:00:53,191
I was like, "Yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah."

1418
01:00:53,274 --> 01:00:55,401
And I would just wake up
in these pools of blood

1419
01:00:55,485 --> 01:00:59,989
with my pants soaked and
and just all fucked up.

1420
01:01:00,073 --> 01:01:01,324
Yeah, it ended.

1421
01:01:01,407 --> 01:01:03,242
Shit, the dope just took over.

1422
01:01:03,326 --> 01:01:05,828
And I would think about
that, I would go, yeah.

1423
01:01:05,912 --> 01:01:07,413
Wow. That was some times,

1424
01:01:07,497 --> 01:01:09,165
a lot of times
and a lot of years

1425
01:01:09,248 --> 01:01:11,542
where I didn't have
this food to eat,

1426
01:01:11,626 --> 01:01:14,712
like I literally wouldn't,
I just didn't eat

1427
01:01:14,796 --> 01:01:16,422
because I didn't have no
money, I didn't have food,

1428
01:01:16,506 --> 01:01:18,508
I spent all the money on dope

1429
01:01:18,591 --> 01:01:21,177
or I'd be in a homeless shelter

1430
01:01:23,304 --> 01:01:25,681
thinking that I'm a rock star.

1431
01:01:25,765 --> 01:01:27,016
I used to be a rockstar.

1432
01:01:27,100 --> 01:01:29,102
What the fuck has happened?

1433
01:01:29,185 --> 01:01:31,354
What the fuck has happened now?

1434
01:01:31,437 --> 01:01:33,731
Now I'm just a fucking
homeless piece of shit

1435
01:01:33,815 --> 01:01:36,692
with the rest of
these guys, you know?

1436
01:01:36,776 --> 01:01:39,529
So it was, ooh, it
was a mixed bag.

1437
01:01:46,285 --> 01:01:47,286
DAVE: How you doing?

1438
01:01:47,370 --> 01:01:49,288
(DH laughing)

1439
01:01:49,372 --> 01:01:50,581
Ugh!

1440
01:01:50,665 --> 01:01:52,125
I never been better
and I never had more.

1441
01:01:52,208 --> 01:01:55,002
It's not as much as
the struggle, because

1442
01:01:57,004 --> 01:01:58,923
I gave up the fight.

1443
01:01:59,006 --> 01:02:01,717
But to me, this is all winning.

1444
01:02:01,801 --> 01:02:04,262
And I do nothing but
really help people

1445
01:02:04,345 --> 01:02:07,473
more stay sober than not,

1446
01:02:07,557 --> 01:02:08,391
because it just helps me

1447
01:02:08,474 --> 01:02:09,767
because I see new people come in

1448
01:02:09,851 --> 01:02:13,729
and I know where they've been,

1449
01:02:13,813 --> 01:02:15,815
and I know how it feels,

1450
01:02:17,483 --> 01:02:22,488
and I know how it feels to
have somebody to reach out

1451
01:02:23,573 --> 01:02:25,158
and say, "Hey,
man, you all right?

1452
01:02:25,241 --> 01:02:26,492
Let's get a coffee."

1453
01:02:26,576 --> 01:02:27,910
Like nobody was
saying that shit.

1454
01:02:27,994 --> 01:02:29,996
Nobody was saying, "Hey,
let's go have coffee.

1455
01:02:30,079 --> 01:02:34,250
Let's go see a movie,
let's go hang out."

1456
01:02:35,668 --> 01:02:39,297
I discovered along with my
spirituality this whole sense

1457
01:02:39,380 --> 01:02:42,175
of love ,

1458
01:02:42,258 --> 01:02:43,759
and self-love and

1459
01:02:45,678 --> 01:02:47,763
love for just fucking mankind.

1460
01:02:49,182 --> 01:02:51,809
I remember just getting sober

1461
01:02:51,893 --> 01:02:55,146
and everything looks so fresh.

1462
01:02:55,229 --> 01:02:56,689
So fresh and so new

1463
01:02:56,772 --> 01:02:59,901
and it's like hitting a
restart on your computer.

1464
01:03:04,197 --> 01:03:05,948
DAVE: Do you love yourself
a little more now?

1465
01:03:06,032 --> 01:03:06,866
A little more.

1466
01:03:07,867 --> 01:03:09,869
I love me a little more.

1467
01:03:11,746 --> 01:03:14,040
(laughing)

1468
01:03:15,041 --> 01:03:19,170
♪ I love you, baby ♪

1469
01:03:19,253 --> 01:03:23,966
♪ But you gotta understand ♪

1470
01:03:24,050 --> 01:03:28,304
♪ When the Lord made me ♪

1471
01:03:28,387 --> 01:03:32,558
♪ He made a ramblin' man ♪

1472
01:03:32,642 --> 01:03:34,477
What those close quarters do

1473
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:35,853
for the comradery of the band.

1474
01:03:35,937 --> 01:03:37,563
It can do one of two things.

1475
01:03:37,647 --> 01:03:39,815
It can fucking make you
wanna kill each other

1476
01:03:39,899 --> 01:03:42,860
or it makes you, you
know, tight like a family.

1477
01:03:42,944 --> 01:03:44,362
Well, it's both.

1478
01:03:44,445 --> 01:03:45,988
Kind of like a family that
wants to kill each other

1479
01:03:46,072 --> 01:03:48,824
is pretty much okay,
so if you're in a van

1480
01:03:48,908 --> 01:03:50,326
and someone's annoying you,

1481
01:03:50,409 --> 01:03:54,413
you have to get over it
because you can't escape it.

1482
01:03:54,497 --> 01:03:57,166
It's like a marriage
of multiple people,

1483
01:03:57,250 --> 01:04:00,753
which in my experience
means it's really hard

1484
01:04:00,836 --> 01:04:03,089
to keep on the
same track forever.

1485
01:04:04,507 --> 01:04:05,925
I mean, you go through it
together and it's hard.

1486
01:04:06,008 --> 01:04:07,760
You go through a lot of shit

1487
01:04:07,843 --> 01:04:09,720
that you don't really
think about at the time,

1488
01:04:09,804 --> 01:04:13,891
but in hindsight, yeah,
you survived that together.

1489
01:04:13,975 --> 01:04:16,269
So it definitely
is a bonding thing

1490
01:04:17,645 --> 01:04:19,939
that you don't even
realize that's happening.

1491
01:04:20,022 --> 01:04:21,357
It was incredible.

1492
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:23,859
It was an ultimate dream for me.

1493
01:04:23,943 --> 01:04:26,529
I had all that discomfort of
like getting some weird rash

1494
01:04:26,612 --> 01:04:29,073
because I'd been sweating
on a the stage going crazy

1495
01:04:29,156 --> 01:04:31,284
and then you don't
shower for six days

1496
01:04:31,367 --> 01:04:33,411
and then the van and
everyone's stinks

1497
01:04:33,494 --> 01:04:35,204
and you're fighting
and shitting your pants

1498
01:04:35,288 --> 01:04:37,915
and eating the worst food
you could ever imagine.

1499
01:04:37,999 --> 01:04:40,626
It's heaven, it's
fucking paradise,

1500
01:04:40,710 --> 01:04:42,878
it's the greatest thing
you could ever do.

1501
01:04:42,962 --> 01:04:44,755
I just felt like we
were just like a roaming

1502
01:04:44,839 --> 01:04:46,090
band of gypsies.

1503
01:04:46,173 --> 01:04:47,800
We show up and we rock you.

1504
01:04:47,883 --> 01:04:50,136
♪ Rock you ♪

1505
01:04:51,178 --> 01:04:52,054
You know, we get
out of the world

1506
01:04:52,138 --> 01:04:53,431
and we play "Get Up and Jump"

1507
01:04:53,514 --> 01:04:54,890
and "True Men
Don't Kill Coyotes"

1508
01:04:54,974 --> 01:04:57,727
and we fucking we do it with
every fiber of our being

1509
01:04:57,810 --> 01:05:02,064
as hard as we can every night
and it means everything.

1510
01:05:02,148 --> 01:05:03,441
You know what was crazy?

1511
01:05:03,524 --> 01:05:05,735
We always drove home.

1512
01:05:05,818 --> 01:05:08,738
We never stayed in a
motel or in a tent.

1513
01:05:08,821 --> 01:05:10,948
We drove home and then we
got in the van the next day

1514
01:05:11,032 --> 01:05:12,742
and went to the next gig.

1515
01:05:12,825 --> 01:05:14,327
We were driving from London.

1516
01:05:14,410 --> 01:05:16,912
It's like the coldest
day ever in Britain,

1517
01:05:16,996 --> 01:05:20,750
coldest night in Britain,
freezing cold, snowing.

1518
01:05:20,833 --> 01:05:22,251
Just the worst.

1519
01:05:22,335 --> 01:05:27,340
And the windshield went
and it had the bench seat.

1520
01:05:28,549 --> 01:05:31,093
And so we laid on top of
each other, The Beatles.

1521
01:05:31,177 --> 01:05:35,097
And if you got to the top,
you had a slug of whiskey

1522
01:05:35,181 --> 01:05:37,350
and then you moved
your way down again

1523
01:05:37,433 --> 01:05:39,018
and the next one had a slug

1524
01:05:39,101 --> 01:05:42,521
and that's how we got back
home without freezing to death.

1525
01:05:42,605 --> 01:05:45,775
And you think, ah, you
know, that's how it is.

1526
01:05:51,238 --> 01:05:54,450
(man speaking indistinctly)

1527
01:05:54,533 --> 01:05:55,868
DAVE: What was it
like to be stuck

1528
01:05:55,951 --> 01:05:57,620
in a fucking little van

1529
01:05:57,703 --> 01:06:01,624
with the same four or five
dudes for two and half months?

1530
01:06:01,707 --> 01:06:03,793
(laughing)

1531
01:06:03,876 --> 01:06:06,045
Well, I mean, you know,
it's like a little tribe

1532
01:06:06,128 --> 01:06:08,714
of nomads running around.

1533
01:06:10,132 --> 01:06:13,010
I think it's one of the
funnest things you can do.

1534
01:06:13,094 --> 01:06:16,055
Being in a gang, in a
band, in a collective,

1535
01:06:16,138 --> 01:06:18,849
in a commune, in a group,
whatever fucking word

1536
01:06:18,933 --> 01:06:20,393
you want to attach to it,

1537
01:06:20,476 --> 01:06:22,853
just being with other people
and sharing that experience

1538
01:06:22,937 --> 01:06:26,482
with other people, that
was paramount to anything.

1539
01:06:26,565 --> 01:06:29,110
Ill never forget there
was a guy in the band who,

1540
01:06:30,486 --> 01:06:32,947
I don't know if he had
food poisoning or something

1541
01:06:34,490 --> 01:06:39,495
but he was farting
the most like noxious,

1542
01:06:40,621 --> 01:06:43,416
like make you want
to puke farts.

1543
01:06:44,291 --> 01:06:45,710
And that's just how you live.

1544
01:06:45,793 --> 01:06:48,462
This is just like, I guess
this is my new reality is I,

1545
01:06:51,006 --> 01:06:54,510
I sit in a fart van. (laughing)

1546
01:06:54,593 --> 01:06:56,679
And get to Baltimore and
play for the bar staff.

1547
01:06:56,762 --> 01:06:58,681
Like it was awesome. (laughing)

1548
01:06:58,764 --> 01:07:00,683
DAVE: Did you know
that the Beatles fart?

1549
01:07:00,766 --> 01:07:01,517
No.

1550
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:03,853
If you fart, admit it.

1551
01:07:03,936 --> 01:07:06,188
(laughing)

1552
01:07:07,356 --> 01:07:10,109
in the van, because it
causes so much trouble.

1553
01:07:10,192 --> 01:07:13,237
You know, eating curry
and then the flatulence

1554
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:14,572
which followed in the van,

1555
01:07:14,655 --> 01:07:17,700
the fucking pong, get the fuck.

1556
01:07:17,783 --> 01:07:20,035
We had to put the
windscreen wipers on,

1557
01:07:20,119 --> 01:07:21,537
sometimes they were that bad.

1558
01:07:21,620 --> 01:07:24,915
And you know when you get
fallen over laughter fit

1559
01:07:24,999 --> 01:07:27,209
where you're on the
floor just giggling?

1560
01:07:27,293 --> 01:07:28,127
They're so rare.

1561
01:07:28,210 --> 01:07:29,462
And they're sort of special,

1562
01:07:29,545 --> 01:07:31,464
a lot of people it's
never happened to,

1563
01:07:31,547 --> 01:07:32,798
it's never happen to them.

1564
01:07:32,882 --> 01:07:34,300
MAN: We got levels
here, you ready?

1565
01:07:34,383 --> 01:07:36,927
♪ Hey, don't let
it go to waste ♪

1566
01:07:37,011 --> 01:07:37,762
(guys laughing)

1567
01:07:37,845 --> 01:07:39,472
♪ But I hate the taste ♪

1568
01:07:39,555 --> 01:07:42,558
♪ Weight keepin' me ♪

1569
01:07:43,726 --> 01:07:46,479
(guys laughing)

1570
01:07:47,688 --> 01:07:51,442
When you get that full
done laughing feeling

1571
01:07:51,525 --> 01:07:52,651
and everybody's in,

1572
01:07:52,735 --> 01:07:55,905
you can't even start
a word before the,

1573
01:07:55,988 --> 01:07:58,407
you know, everybody's
back down again.

1574
01:07:58,491 --> 01:07:59,658
Fucking magic.

1575
01:07:59,742 --> 01:08:02,161
Oh my God, Anthony.

1576
01:08:02,244 --> 01:08:04,288
Oh my God.

1577
01:08:04,371 --> 01:08:05,831
Take the fucking picture.

1578
01:08:07,249 --> 01:08:08,501
Oh!

1579
01:08:08,584 --> 01:08:09,418
When you're in a band,

1580
01:08:09,502 --> 01:08:10,795
especially like you're in a van,

1581
01:08:10,878 --> 01:08:12,755
like you know, everyone's
pissing you off,

1582
01:08:12,838 --> 01:08:15,257
but you really fall in
love with everyone too.

1583
01:08:15,341 --> 01:08:16,759
You know?

1584
01:08:16,842 --> 01:08:19,261
And you show up and it's
just that feeling of like,

1585
01:08:19,345 --> 01:08:21,931
you know, we're gonna
fucking explode.

1586
01:08:22,014 --> 01:08:23,140
Like we're gonna up there
and I'm gonna go up there

1587
01:08:23,224 --> 01:08:25,267
and I'm gonna explode, you know?

1588
01:08:25,351 --> 01:08:28,270
'Cause I know this
like tense boiled,

1589
01:08:28,354 --> 01:08:32,441
this ball, tightly coiled
up inside of me all my life.

1590
01:08:32,525 --> 01:08:35,528
And it was like all of
a sudden I found a way

1591
01:08:35,611 --> 01:08:38,531
where, you know, 'cause I
had felt in so many ways

1592
01:08:38,614 --> 01:08:39,782
growing up like lesser than

1593
01:08:39,865 --> 01:08:42,451
and I was always small
and little and skinny

1594
01:08:42,535 --> 01:08:45,287
and I was scared of
girls and I was weird

1595
01:08:45,371 --> 01:08:47,456
and like a jazz nerd and
you know what I mean?

1596
01:08:47,540 --> 01:08:49,458
Like but I found this
thing and it was a place

1597
01:08:49,542 --> 01:08:51,627
where not only like all
this like tension inside me,

1598
01:08:51,710 --> 01:08:53,379
that I could release it,

1599
01:08:53,462 --> 01:08:56,549
but also that I was
discovering myself,

1600
01:08:56,632 --> 01:08:58,384
I was discovering my identity.

1601
01:08:58,467 --> 01:09:02,638
And I realize it not
only was like selfish,

1602
01:09:02,721 --> 01:09:04,974
like I'm able to
release all this stuff,

1603
01:09:05,057 --> 01:09:06,642
but I was looking at people

1604
01:09:06,725 --> 01:09:09,228
who are right there in front
of me and they were happy.

1605
01:09:09,311 --> 01:09:11,063
When we were doing
those van tours,

1606
01:09:11,146 --> 01:09:13,148
it was us against the world.

1607
01:09:13,232 --> 01:09:15,401
So we would hit the
stage in between

1608
01:09:15,484 --> 01:09:18,237
those fucking long drives.

1609
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:20,531
And even if we're playing
for 10 people or 15 people

1610
01:09:20,614 --> 01:09:22,032
or 30 people,

1611
01:09:22,116 --> 01:09:25,494
you just hit the stage and
it's like this is what I do.

1612
01:09:25,578 --> 01:09:27,496
This is what we do together.

1613
01:09:27,580 --> 01:09:28,914
You're waiting
for those moments.

1614
01:09:28,998 --> 01:09:30,666
I always say like life is
just waiting for those moments

1615
01:09:30,749 --> 01:09:32,001
to get back on stage.

1616
01:09:32,084 --> 01:09:34,211
Everything else is kind
of passing the time.

1617
01:09:34,295 --> 01:09:36,171
(audience cheering)

1618
01:09:36,255 --> 01:09:38,799
(bell dinging)

1619
01:09:43,762 --> 01:09:46,473
DAVE: And you get on stage now

1620
01:09:47,933 --> 01:09:49,894
do you still get the
same feeling you had

1621
01:09:49,977 --> 01:09:51,437
the first time that
you got on stage?

1622
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:53,188
Yeah, absolutely.

1623
01:09:53,272 --> 01:09:55,357
You can't be in a rock
and roll band and say,

1624
01:09:55,441 --> 01:09:57,693
"Well, I've got three
gigs this weekend.

1625
01:09:59,111 --> 01:10:02,031
I'll take it easy tonight
and save me energy."

1626
01:10:02,114 --> 01:10:04,199
You can't, it's impossible.

1627
01:10:04,283 --> 01:10:07,286
You have to go till
your throat's dead.

1628
01:10:07,369 --> 01:10:08,203
You know?

1629
01:10:08,287 --> 01:10:11,206
And even then, make an attempt.

1630
01:10:11,290 --> 01:10:12,708
And the crowd love you
all the more for it

1631
01:10:12,791 --> 01:10:15,294
'cause you're not giving
up or wimping out.

1632
01:10:15,377 --> 01:10:19,924
You go on with it otherwise
it's not rock and roll anymore.

1633
01:10:20,007 --> 01:10:24,970
It's somebody attempting
to be rock and roll.

1634
01:10:26,221 --> 01:10:27,765
Growing up, like going
to see a band live

1635
01:10:27,848 --> 01:10:29,642
was the way you
connected with them.

1636
01:10:29,725 --> 01:10:31,894
Now you can connect with them
in so many different ways

1637
01:10:31,977 --> 01:10:33,979
and everyone's connecting
with so many different things.

1638
01:10:34,063 --> 01:10:37,650
It's all just like, there's
so much stuff going on.

1639
01:10:37,733 --> 01:10:41,779
I just think it's just,
it's changed so much.

1640
01:10:41,862 --> 01:10:43,405
So now there's a lot
of live streaming

1641
01:10:43,489 --> 01:10:45,491
and you can watch
concerts at home.

1642
01:10:45,574 --> 01:10:48,160
You don't have to go
to a fucking concert.

1643
01:10:48,243 --> 01:10:52,456
I not only accept the
technology and where it's gone,

1644
01:10:52,539 --> 01:10:54,333
but I actually love it.

1645
01:10:54,416 --> 01:10:57,378
(upbeat rock music)

1646
01:11:09,181 --> 01:11:11,934
It's a completely different
playing field now.

1647
01:11:12,017 --> 01:11:14,353
There's so many different
ways of trying to see

1648
01:11:14,436 --> 01:11:17,773
if this new sort of,

1649
01:11:17,856 --> 01:11:19,525
with the way the
technology's working out

1650
01:11:19,608 --> 01:11:22,361
to get it to hit an
audience, to make it work.

1651
01:11:22,444 --> 01:11:23,278
You know?

1652
01:11:26,532 --> 01:11:28,784
It like started with like
you listen to one thing

1653
01:11:28,867 --> 01:11:30,619
from your parents and
then there's YouTube,

1654
01:11:30,703 --> 01:11:32,705
which is like you go down

1655
01:11:32,788 --> 01:11:37,126
and you can see every concert
from like 1977 or whatever.

1656
01:11:37,209 --> 01:11:38,711
And then it branches off

1657
01:11:38,794 --> 01:11:39,962
and you find out-

1658
01:11:40,045 --> 01:11:41,880
Other bands.
Other bands yourself.

1659
01:11:41,964 --> 01:11:44,133
But it just makes
you want to be there.

1660
01:11:44,216 --> 01:11:45,718
♪ Fire ♪

1661
01:11:45,801 --> 01:11:48,304
♪ To begin whipping
dance of the dead ♪

1662
01:11:48,387 --> 01:11:50,639
♪ Blackened is the end ♪

1663
01:11:50,723 --> 01:11:53,809
♪ To begin whipping
dance of the dead ♪

1664
01:11:53,892 --> 01:11:55,310
♪ Fire ♪

1665
01:11:55,394 --> 01:11:58,147
♪ Is the outcome of hypocrisy ♪

1666
01:11:58,230 --> 01:12:00,399
♪ Darkest potency ♪

1667
01:12:00,482 --> 01:12:03,193
♪ In the exit of humanity ♪

1668
01:12:03,277 --> 01:12:05,571
♪ Color our world blackened ♪

1669
01:12:05,654 --> 01:12:07,990
♪ Blackened ♪

1670
01:12:13,162 --> 01:12:15,748
Music can change the
world in some way.

1671
01:12:15,831 --> 01:12:18,250
Maybe if it's on an
individual basis,

1672
01:12:18,333 --> 01:12:20,252
just a couple of people,

1673
01:12:20,335 --> 01:12:23,213
but it will actually
change somebody

1674
01:12:23,297 --> 01:12:24,923
and it did in my case.

1675
01:12:25,007 --> 01:12:27,760
(audience cheering)

1676
01:12:27,843 --> 01:12:29,011
Ladies and gentlemen!

1677
01:12:30,929 --> 01:12:34,850
A warm welcome please
from Dublin, Ireland, U2!

1678
01:12:36,143 --> 01:12:39,271
(audience cheering)

1679
01:12:40,689 --> 01:12:43,942
THE EDGE: This connection
with the live audience-

1680
01:12:44,026 --> 01:12:45,069
Good evening!

1681
01:12:45,152 --> 01:12:47,529
Really taught us
everything we just know

1682
01:12:47,613 --> 01:12:49,281
about being in a band.

1683
01:12:49,364 --> 01:12:52,284
Without the experience
of growing up

1684
01:12:52,367 --> 01:12:55,621
playing small little clubs
and learning how to do it,

1685
01:12:55,704 --> 01:12:57,790
I don't think our
band would've made it.

1686
01:12:57,873 --> 01:13:00,084
I don't think it would be
anything like it is now.

1687
01:13:00,167 --> 01:13:03,170
(upbeat rock music)

1688
01:13:04,630 --> 01:13:07,466
You can't put it in
words what the energy,

1689
01:13:07,549 --> 01:13:10,135
it's a whole different thing
that you can't describe

1690
01:13:10,219 --> 01:13:12,137
when you're actually
watching a band that you love

1691
01:13:12,221 --> 01:13:14,473
in the room versus
watching in on screen.

1692
01:13:14,556 --> 01:13:17,476
It's just a different
experience as we know.

1693
01:13:17,559 --> 01:13:18,811
What happens in your ears,

1694
01:13:18,894 --> 01:13:20,479
what happens through your eyes,

1695
01:13:20,562 --> 01:13:22,648
what happens to your body

1696
01:13:22,731 --> 01:13:24,399
in that energy in
the room, right?

1697
01:13:24,483 --> 01:13:28,070
It's just, it's a completely
different experience

1698
01:13:28,153 --> 01:13:32,491
that I'm so grateful that I
got to see all these bands

1699
01:13:32,574 --> 01:13:33,742
for so many years.

1700
01:13:33,826 --> 01:13:35,327
All these bands
that I love so much.

1701
01:13:35,411 --> 01:13:38,455
You say, one, two, three. Do it!

1702
01:13:38,539 --> 01:13:41,583
AUDIENCE: One, two, three!

1703
01:13:41,667 --> 01:13:44,962
(upbeat rock music)

1704
01:13:45,045 --> 01:13:47,256
To have people, to
see people singing

1705
01:13:47,339 --> 01:13:48,757
songs that we
wrote in the studio

1706
01:13:48,841 --> 01:13:51,677
and because we were in a good
mood and having a good time,

1707
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:53,303
that's so great.

1708
01:13:53,387 --> 01:13:55,848
I think that's the
(indistinct) for me.

1709
01:13:55,931 --> 01:13:58,433
♪ Yeah ♪

1710
01:13:58,517 --> 01:14:01,520
(audience singing)

1711
01:14:10,863 --> 01:14:12,281
Who've I've become
by not growing up

1712
01:14:12,364 --> 01:14:16,201
is much bigger than anyone's
ever become growing up.

1713
01:14:16,285 --> 01:14:18,036
Do you ever think that sometimes

1714
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:19,538
when you're playing on stage,

1715
01:14:19,621 --> 01:14:22,040
I can't believe I'm getting
paid for this right now?

1716
01:14:22,124 --> 01:14:23,375
Every-
Like this is-

1717
01:14:23,458 --> 01:14:24,543
Everyday.

1718
01:14:24,626 --> 01:14:27,546
(audience singing)

1719
01:14:39,766 --> 01:14:40,601
Okay.

1720
01:14:41,476 --> 01:14:43,896
(upbeat rock music)

1721
01:14:43,979 --> 01:14:44,813
Guess what?

1722
01:14:49,151 --> 01:14:52,738
This is exactly what I fucking
hoped would happen right now.

1723
01:14:52,821 --> 01:14:55,199
(audience cheering)

1724
01:14:55,282 --> 01:14:57,701
Dan, light 'em up,
I got to see 'em.

1725
01:14:57,784 --> 01:14:59,745
Hey, Glastonbury!

1726
01:14:59,828 --> 01:15:00,662
Hey!

1727
01:15:03,916 --> 01:15:05,709
Thank you so much, you guys,

1728
01:15:05,792 --> 01:15:07,085
it's a been a beautiful evening.

1729
01:15:07,169 --> 01:15:09,046
(audience cheering)

1730
01:15:09,129 --> 01:15:11,006
I remember the great
shows that I've been to.

1731
01:15:11,089 --> 01:15:12,841
They changed my life, you know?

1732
01:15:12,925 --> 01:15:14,676
The Clash changed my life.

1733
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:16,094
(upbeat rock music)

1734
01:15:16,178 --> 01:15:19,514
♪ Oh ♪

1735
01:15:19,598 --> 01:15:23,018
♪ Darling, you got
to let me know ♪

1736
01:15:23,101 --> 01:15:24,686
♪ Should I stay or should I go ♪

1737
01:15:24,770 --> 01:15:26,772
You see a lot of acts
that are just taking

1738
01:15:26,855 --> 01:15:27,940
what they did in the studio

1739
01:15:28,023 --> 01:15:29,399
and leading that to a stage

1740
01:15:29,483 --> 01:15:32,277
and expecting that that's
going to work and it doesn't.

1741
01:15:32,361 --> 01:15:36,365
So there's something about the
live concerts that, you know,

1742
01:15:36,448 --> 01:15:40,536
the honesty of it
that you can't hide.

1743
01:15:40,619 --> 01:15:44,456
That is the reason I think
that people go to shows.

1744
01:15:44,539 --> 01:15:45,958
♪ Hello, hello ♪

1745
01:15:46,041 --> 01:15:47,376
♪ Hola ♪

1746
01:15:47,459 --> 01:15:49,795
♪ I'm at a place
called Vertigo ♪

1747
01:15:49,878 --> 01:15:51,421
They don't go to shows

1748
01:15:51,505 --> 01:15:53,799
to hear the music they
hear on the radio.

1749
01:15:53,882 --> 01:15:56,385
They want to see
something different

1750
01:15:56,468 --> 01:16:00,722
and something compelling,
something that is
going to connect

1751
01:16:00,806 --> 01:16:01,974
with them in a deep way.

1752
01:16:02,057 --> 01:16:04,393
And I think the
best acts do that,

1753
01:16:04,476 --> 01:16:07,145
but they're the ones that
have paid their dues.

1754
01:16:07,229 --> 01:16:08,230
(upbeat rock music)

1755
01:16:08,313 --> 01:16:10,399
I wanna hear you sing!

1756
01:16:10,482 --> 01:16:14,278
♪ There goes my hero ♪

1757
01:16:14,361 --> 01:16:17,572
♪ Watch him as he goes ♪

1758
01:16:17,656 --> 01:16:19,241
That's what we are.

1759
01:16:19,324 --> 01:16:21,994
We share are love through music.

1760
01:16:23,161 --> 01:16:27,332
♪ There goes my hero ♪

1761
01:16:27,416 --> 01:16:30,252
♪ He's ordinary ♪

1762
01:16:30,335 --> 01:16:31,586
It's satisfying.

1763
01:16:31,670 --> 01:16:35,757
Something deep in my
soul that helps me

1764
01:16:37,259 --> 01:16:40,012
live.
♪ There goes my hero ♪

1765
01:16:40,095 --> 01:16:42,931
♪ Watch him as he goes ♪

1766
01:16:43,015 --> 01:16:48,020
It's 2019 and the biggest
rock bands in the world,

1767
01:16:49,187 --> 01:16:51,440
all the same biggest
rock bands in the world

1768
01:16:51,523 --> 01:16:56,528
that were, you know,
1999 or 1989, you know,

1769
01:16:57,237 --> 01:16:58,697
Guns and Roses and AC/DC

1770
01:16:58,780 --> 01:17:03,368
and Iron Maiden and Aerosmith
and you guys and us and so on.

1771
01:17:04,536 --> 01:17:06,288
I mean, that's the
fucking crazy thing.

1772
01:17:06,371 --> 01:17:10,417
And so I think there's a whole
bunch of conversations about

1773
01:17:11,626 --> 01:17:15,380
why has that not changed?

1774
01:17:15,464 --> 01:17:16,673
It's funny because Thom Yorke

1775
01:17:16,757 --> 01:17:18,675
brought that point
up to me as well.

1776
01:17:18,759 --> 01:17:19,634
DAVE: What is that?

1777
01:17:19,718 --> 01:17:20,844
Well, he just said it was like,

1778
01:17:20,927 --> 01:17:22,346
'cause there's so few of us left

1779
01:17:22,429 --> 01:17:25,140
that can go play big places
all over the world, right?

1780
01:17:25,223 --> 01:17:28,060
We can go fill up arenas,
stadiums, all over the fucking.

1781
01:17:28,143 --> 01:17:29,811
At a certain point,
like in the 90s

1782
01:17:29,895 --> 01:17:33,690
or late 90s or something, it's
like they put up a big fence

1783
01:17:33,774 --> 01:17:35,901
or they drew a line
or made a big wall

1784
01:17:35,984 --> 01:17:37,694
and all of us that were
on one side of the wall

1785
01:17:37,778 --> 01:17:39,821
got to do it for the
rest of our lives,

1786
01:17:39,905 --> 01:17:41,907
and no one else can come in.

1787
01:17:41,990 --> 01:17:44,826
And has anyone else come
in, in 20 years? Rock band?

1788
01:17:46,453 --> 01:17:47,829
Is there one?

1789
01:17:47,913 --> 01:17:51,708
I mean, I might be missing
it, but, no, right?

1790
01:17:51,792 --> 01:17:53,502
Why do you do this to yourself?

1791
01:17:53,585 --> 01:17:55,170
Why do you punish
yourself that much?

1792
01:17:55,253 --> 01:17:56,088
Punish myself?
Yeah.

1793
01:17:56,171 --> 01:17:57,506
You're talking about punishment.

1794
01:17:57,589 --> 01:17:58,673
Yeah.

1795
01:17:58,757 --> 01:18:00,509
I don't see the punishment.

1796
01:18:00,592 --> 01:18:03,345
Well, the enormous
volume of music,

1797
01:18:03,428 --> 01:18:05,889
the enormous amount of
energy that you take

1798
01:18:05,972 --> 01:18:07,099
and that you give.

1799
01:18:07,182 --> 01:18:08,892
That's not punishment.
That's pleasure.

1800
01:18:08,975 --> 01:18:10,102
Is it pleasure?
Yeah.

1801
01:18:10,185 --> 01:18:12,020
We're a band based on
the pleasure principle.

1802
01:18:12,104 --> 01:18:13,230
And when I go out there

1803
01:18:13,313 --> 01:18:14,689
and when I go out there
with my best friends

1804
01:18:14,773 --> 01:18:16,692
and we make beautiful
music that is sacred to us,

1805
01:18:16,775 --> 01:18:20,779
that's nothing but
ultimate glorious euphoria.

1806
01:18:20,862 --> 01:18:22,948
There is no pain
when you're on stage,

1807
01:18:23,031 --> 01:18:24,783
the pain comes during life

1808
01:18:24,866 --> 01:18:26,284
and that's a place to
fucking exorcize the pain

1809
01:18:26,368 --> 01:18:27,911
out of your body.

1810
01:18:27,994 --> 01:18:29,454
You have to want it.

1811
01:18:29,538 --> 01:18:30,956
You really have to want it

1812
01:18:31,039 --> 01:18:33,625
and you've just got to go
through the tough times

1813
01:18:33,708 --> 01:18:35,085
because it will be tough.

1814
01:18:35,168 --> 01:18:36,628
You're not gonna get an
easy ride. That's for sure.

1815
01:18:36,711 --> 01:18:40,382
It's hard and it's arduous
and it's fun as fuck.

1816
01:18:40,465 --> 01:18:42,717
When you're at a certain age

1817
01:18:42,801 --> 01:18:46,263
and you find something
beautiful that you love,

1818
01:18:46,346 --> 01:18:48,140
go for it with
everything you've got,

1819
01:18:48,223 --> 01:18:50,392
because it will serve
you your entire life.

1820
01:18:50,475 --> 01:18:53,895
Do you ever feel like
giving up and going home?

1821
01:18:53,979 --> 01:18:54,813
Never.

1822
01:18:56,064 --> 01:18:58,233
Never, never give up.

1823
01:18:58,316 --> 01:19:00,026
DAVE: Do you ever want to quit?

1824
01:19:01,528 --> 01:19:02,654
No.

1825
01:19:02,737 --> 01:19:04,072
That's crazy. No.

1826
01:19:04,156 --> 01:19:05,740
DAVE: Do you ever
feel like giving up?

1827
01:19:05,824 --> 01:19:07,075
No.

1828
01:19:07,159 --> 01:19:07,993
No.

1829
01:19:09,161 --> 01:19:11,997
The guys I was in the
van with 20 years ago

1830
01:19:13,373 --> 01:19:14,750
are still my band.

1831
01:19:16,418 --> 01:19:18,128
And I don't know
if they would be

1832
01:19:18,211 --> 01:19:21,256
if we didn't have that
experience together.

1833
01:19:21,339 --> 01:19:22,632
There's no greater gift

1834
01:19:22,716 --> 01:19:25,260
than to have your little crew

1835
01:19:26,386 --> 01:19:28,680
and you're in your
boat, working the town.

1836
01:19:30,015 --> 01:19:32,768
I really love it.
I really love it.

1837
01:19:33,935 --> 01:19:35,270
Our records have never
gone out of print.

1838
01:19:35,353 --> 01:19:38,231
We're still this real
band, still touring.

1839
01:19:39,524 --> 01:19:41,610
Still playing to young
people or old people

1840
01:19:41,693 --> 01:19:43,111
and all kinds of people.

1841
01:19:43,195 --> 01:19:46,448
It's amazing. It's like a
wow thing every night to me.

1842
01:19:46,531 --> 01:19:49,075
And we still tour in a van.

1843
01:19:50,035 --> 01:19:52,287
We have two vans now.

1844
01:19:52,370 --> 01:19:54,789
What is it that keeps you going?

1845
01:19:54,873 --> 01:19:57,292
Jazz musicians would just
fucking die on stage.

1846
01:19:59,127 --> 01:20:01,796
There doesn't have to
be an end to touring.

1847
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:03,798
There doesn't have to
be an end to playing.

1848
01:20:03,882 --> 01:20:05,926
At the end of the day,

1849
01:20:07,052 --> 01:20:09,721
playing music, and
fucking writing songs

1850
01:20:10,764 --> 01:20:12,474
is what I love to do.

1851
01:20:12,557 --> 01:20:14,142
It's my favorite thing to do.

1852
01:20:14,226 --> 01:20:17,187
Like for me, the
answer is, it's simple,

1853
01:20:17,270 --> 01:20:20,190
and it's love and
that's the only answer.

1854
01:20:20,273 --> 01:20:22,817
DAVE: If you had advice for
the next generation of kids,

1855
01:20:22,901 --> 01:20:25,153
because I know that
you want to pass it on.

1856
01:20:25,237 --> 01:20:26,571
Yes.

1857
01:20:26,655 --> 01:20:29,074
DAVE: What would you
tell the next generation?

1858
01:20:31,493 --> 01:20:34,829
Be sincere about what
you're listening to.

1859
01:20:34,913 --> 01:20:38,500
And love what
you're trying to do.

1860
01:20:38,583 --> 01:20:40,835
that's what I would tell 'em.

1861
01:20:40,919 --> 01:20:44,005
What you tell 'em?
I'd like to know.

1862
01:20:44,089 --> 01:20:45,715
If we come back,
will you come back?

1863
01:20:45,799 --> 01:20:47,384
'Cause if you come
back, we'll come back.

1864
01:20:47,467 --> 01:20:48,426
That's the way it works.

1865
01:20:48,510 --> 01:20:52,180
(audience cheering)

1866
01:20:52,264 --> 01:20:53,014
cool.

1867
01:20:54,849 --> 01:20:55,684
I like that.

1868
01:20:57,018 --> 01:20:59,271
That means nobody
has to say goodbye

1869
01:20:59,354 --> 01:21:01,523
'cause we'll see each
other again sometime.

1870
01:21:03,650 --> 01:21:05,277
So we never say goodbye.

1871
01:21:06,862 --> 01:21:09,114
We just say this.

1872
01:21:09,197 --> 01:21:12,200
(upbeat rock music)

1873
01:21:15,787 --> 01:21:18,206
You just play till you die.

1874
01:21:19,207 --> 01:21:21,126
What else you gonna do?

1875
01:21:21,209 --> 01:21:24,963
(Dave speaking indistinctly)

1876
01:21:28,216 --> 01:21:30,302
Here we go! Ah!

1877
01:21:30,385 --> 01:21:34,139
(upbeat rock music)

1878
01:21:34,222 --> 01:21:36,391
It's really important
to find your thing.

1879
01:21:37,559 --> 01:21:40,437
It might take awhile
but it'll happen.

1880
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:43,273
♪ Hello ♪

1881
01:21:43,356 --> 01:21:47,485
♪ I've waited here for you ♪

1882
01:21:47,569 --> 01:21:51,448
♪ Everlong ♪

1883
01:21:51,531 --> 01:21:53,992
♪ Tonight ♪

1884
01:21:54,075 --> 01:21:58,121
♪ I throw myself into ♪

1885
01:21:58,204 --> 01:21:59,664
♪ And out of the red ♪

1886
01:21:59,748 --> 01:22:00,498
♪ Out of her head ♪

1887
01:22:00,582 --> 01:22:02,167
Here we go!

1888
01:22:02,250 --> 01:22:05,086
I would just say get in a
band and do it, you know?

1889
01:22:06,755 --> 01:22:09,341
It's the only way
to make it happen.

1890
01:22:09,424 --> 01:22:14,429
♪ Come down and
waste away with me ♪

1891
01:22:15,930 --> 01:22:19,601
♪ Down with me ♪

1892
01:22:19,684 --> 01:22:24,689
♪ Slow, how you
wanted it to be ♪

1893
01:22:26,274 --> 01:22:27,692
♪ I'm over my head ♪

1894
01:22:27,776 --> 01:22:28,693
♪ Out of her head ♪

1895
01:22:28,777 --> 01:22:30,028
All right, here we go!

1896
01:22:30,111 --> 01:22:31,613
I think I would say do shows.

1897
01:22:31,696 --> 01:22:33,782
Get out in front
of a live audience.

1898
01:22:33,865 --> 01:22:35,116
It's so informative

1899
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:40,121
and also making that
connection with an audience is,

1900
01:22:41,289 --> 01:22:42,624
I think that's what
makes a great band.

1901
01:22:42,707 --> 01:22:47,712
♪ If anything could ever
be this good again ♪

1902
01:22:48,797 --> 01:22:51,800
♪ The only thing I'll
ever ask of you ♪

1903
01:22:51,883 --> 01:22:56,554
♪ You've got to promise not
to stop when I say when ♪

1904
01:22:56,638 --> 01:22:57,806
♪ She sang ♪

1905
01:22:57,889 --> 01:23:00,558
You have to be
completely committed

1906
01:23:00,642 --> 01:23:04,145
and willing to fucking go
through hell and high water

1907
01:23:04,229 --> 01:23:05,146
to put it lightly.

1908
01:23:06,231 --> 01:23:08,191
Yeah, if you can't
breathe without doing it

1909
01:23:08,274 --> 01:23:10,360
then you're in the right place.

1910
01:23:10,443 --> 01:23:11,653
Really think about it

1911
01:23:11,736 --> 01:23:13,655
and say am I allowing
to give up everything?

1912
01:23:13,738 --> 01:23:14,656
How am I gear taken?

1913
01:23:14,739 --> 01:23:16,533
Have my guitar taken?

1914
01:23:16,616 --> 01:23:20,078
Lose it all for this dream.

1915
01:23:20,161 --> 01:23:23,665
Be yourself and
brace who you are,

1916
01:23:23,748 --> 01:23:27,585
and the greatest tragedy
that could ever be

1917
01:23:27,669 --> 01:23:30,505
is not singing your
song that's inside you.

1918
01:23:30,588 --> 01:23:32,924
(audience cheering)

1919
01:23:33,007 --> 01:23:35,593
♪ And she sang ♪

1920
01:23:40,140 --> 01:23:41,766
Your connecting to the music,

1921
01:23:41,850 --> 01:23:44,561
you're connecting to
your fellow band members

1922
01:23:44,644 --> 01:23:48,189
and you're connecting
to the audience.

1923
01:23:48,273 --> 01:23:51,192
That to me, is what
keeps me alive.

1924
01:23:52,193 --> 01:23:53,945
Are you ready!?

1925
01:23:54,028 --> 01:23:55,947
Let's fucking go.

1926
01:23:56,030 --> 01:23:56,823
Ah!

1927
01:23:59,117 --> 01:24:04,122
♪ If everything could ever
feel this real forever ♪

1928
01:24:05,290 --> 01:24:09,961
♪ If anything could ever
be this good again ♪

1929
01:24:11,129 --> 01:24:13,923
♪ The only thing I'll
ever ask of you ♪

1930
01:24:14,007 --> 01:24:19,012
♪ You've got to promise not
to stop when I say when ♪

1931
01:24:24,851 --> 01:24:27,854
(audience cheering)

1932
01:24:37,572 --> 01:24:41,409
(Dave speaking indistinctly)

1933
01:24:41,493 --> 01:24:44,579
(audience cheering)

1934
01:24:50,710 --> 01:24:51,920
You gotta get in the van

1935
01:24:52,003 --> 01:24:54,506
if you want to make
it in this business.

1936
01:24:55,757 --> 01:25:55,567
(upbeat rock music)