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JACQUI: How old are you now?
ARTHUR: 96.
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JACQUI:
Yeah, 96.
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- I'll be 97 next March.
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First match I went to
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was 1931.
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I was seven.
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JULIE:
So 90 years of following them?
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- Up and down.
- [laughs]
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- Up and down.
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SPENCER: And a football team
is not just a football team.
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It is something
that really brings together
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the community in a way
that nothing else does.
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SHAUN:
There's a magic about football
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that not everyone will get,
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but the die-hard Wrexham fans
I know certainly get it.
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JULIE: "Three brothers
who will be going to Wembley
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to support Wrexham AFC with
a combined age of 254 years."
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JACQUI: That's it.
- [Julie laughs]
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- Had, uh, highs.
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I've had very lows.
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SPENCER: It gives people
a real sense of community
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and camaraderie
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and belonging to something
in a way that, without it,
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they just wouldn't have.
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And-and-and how dare somebody
come from outside the area
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and-and try to take that away
from people?
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[Buddy Holly's "Everyday"]
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BUDDY: [singing] Every day,
it's a-getting closer
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Going faster
than a roller coaster
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Love like yours
will surely come my way
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A-hey, a-hey-hey
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Every day,
it's a-getting faster
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Everyone said,
"Go ahead and ask her"
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Love like yours
will surely come my way
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A-hey, a-hey-hey
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Love like yours
will surely come my way
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PERSON:
Is it teatime for you now?
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Oh-ho-ho-ho.
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Are you hungry?
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Are you ready for your tea?
[gasps]
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- Right, buddy,
after we finish this...
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you're not going to be able
to sit and watch telly.
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Mommy and Daddy have got
to watch something
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on the telly.
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And it's about the football.
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PERSON:
Some people are worried
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that Ryan Reynolds
and his friend
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are just doing it
to make money.
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[bright classical music]
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- So that's what people
want to know:
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why have they chosen Wrexham?
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Just to make sure
that they're--
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they're doing it for a reason
that's a good reason.
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There were some people
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who bought Wrexham Football
Club who didn't want it.
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They wanted to knock
the football stadium down.
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- They wanted to knock?
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- So that they could
make money.
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[light music]
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[static crackling]
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LOUISE:
These are turbulent times
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for Wrexham Football Club.
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Its future is on a knife-edge
amid talks of debts amounting
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to millions
and asset stripping.
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SPENCER:
Going back to the early 2000s,
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the football club had a number
of challenges.
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It had owners who, eh,
who-who frankly that-that
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their sole reason for ownership
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was not for the betterment
of the football club,
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and the football club
was in danger.
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LOUISE:
For the last two years,
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this club has been owned
by one man,
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and tonight we unravel
the truth
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behind rumors surrounding
Alex Hamilton.
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- Alex Hamilton was actually
the-the owner
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of the football club,
but another gentleman, eh,
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was, eh, was-was sort
of fronting the ownership
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for a while,
and-and we didn't know
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Alex Hamilton
was in-in the background.
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LOUISE: Two years ago,
Alex Hamilton
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bought the controlling share
of Wrexham Football Club.
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Keeping his own identity
secret,
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he installed a business
associate as chairman.
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Mark Guterman
was a controversial choice
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among fans.
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He'd already taken
local rivals Chester
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into administration
and relegated
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from the football league.
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BRYN: The club was sold
to those two people,
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and their, uh, idea of what
the value of this football club
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didn't really revolve around it
being a football club.
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LOUISE: A former solicitor
who lives here in Cheshire,
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Alex Hamilton was struck off
by the Law Society
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two years ago for charges
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including allegations
of mortgage fraud.
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He appealed, and most
of the charges against him,
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including the mortgage fraud,
were withdrawn.
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Reinstated last year,
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Hamilton now describes himself
as a property developer.
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BRYN:
This was a time of, you know,
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a lot of redevelopment work
going on around the UK.
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There was a bit more money
flowing around again
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in the economy and people were
looking for opportunities.
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Small football clubs are
always financially vulnerable,
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and this has long been the case
in England and Wales.
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Wrexham were in that position
now.
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They were vulnerable,
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and I think these guys
spotted that vulnerability
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and recognized
that in this big stadium site
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that you have here,
which is on the edge of town,
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it's a prime position
potentially for redevelopment.
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LOUISE: The Racecourse
is the premier sports ground
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in North Wales.
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The Ground has a long history,
and fans recently invested
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in its future by buying bricks
in the new stand.
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There's lots of building work
going on here.
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It's a prime site at the main
gateway to the town.
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If it had planning permission,
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the Racecourse could be worth
at least £10 million...
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just the kind of land
a property developer
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might dream of finding.
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[dark music]
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SPENCER: Well, the history,
the present,
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and the future
of Wrexham Football Club
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is interwoven
with the Racecourse stadium.
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Without
the Racecourse stadium,
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there is no Wrexham AFC.
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If the stadium goes,
the football team goes.
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[Spiro's
"We Will Be Absorbed"]
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ROB: So the club doesn't
currently own the Racecourse.
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We pay approximately $150,000
a year to lease the stadium.
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Moreover, the club is also
on the hook for any updates,
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refurbishments,
enhancements that we wanna do,
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and we've been able
to do a few of those.
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But what we really wanna do
is return the stadium
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to being the crown jewel
of North Wales.
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But sadly, we have an entire
stand called "the Kop"
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that is, for all intents
and purposes, condemned,
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and we can't do anything
with that
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until the club once again
owns the Racecourse...
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which is proving to be...
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difficult?
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[beep beep]
Hey, Shaun?
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Can we get an update on, um,
where we are with the purchase
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of the, uh, freehold
for the Racecourse?
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- Um, it's proving to be, uh,
a challenge.
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The-the title deeds are old.
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The Land Registry plans
aren't as clear as you'd hope.
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Um, we're just reviewing them
all to get them all together,
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and we're gonna get there
as quick as we can.
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RYAN: There's nothing
that we can do to--
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to maybe to help speed it up
or-or expedite in some way?
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- Well, some of these laws were
drawn up in the 1400s,
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so they-they didn't anticipate
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the pace at which people
would want to do things.
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- It is frustrating,
and it's annoying
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and, uh, it's hard to--
it's hard to give you a--
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a rationale as to why
it should take this long
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other than these things do.
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I mean, I-I'm all
for due process,
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but we-we made a promise.
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It's in our original
mission statement.
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The Racecourse needs to be back
in club hands.
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Everybody wants it to be back
in club hands.
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And yet months and months
and months go by.
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And the-I-look,
my frustration
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is that we can't start
on the development process.
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- Do we have a rough estimate
as to when we'll have
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some kind of answer?
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- No, other than it can't take
that much longer.
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RYAN: Holy...
- [laughs] I mean, it's just--
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it's Kafkaesque.
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Like, we are--
we're-we're trapped.
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- And what-and what's worse
is we're even on record
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since we promised it
that-that we're actually
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on with it and we've got
everything in place.
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I'm amazed we've not had any--
had any more questions
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from the public and the fans
as to why it's taking--
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why it's taking
this length of time.
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- Okay, well, I guess
we'll talk later.
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- Uh, bye, guys.
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ANNOUNCER:
Oh, he's all on his own.
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Can he make it five?
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GERAINT: We are, uh,
one of the oldest clubs
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in the world.
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[dramatic music]
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Uh, and that's quite
impressive in itself.
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ANNOUNCER: No doubt about that
in terms of Wrexham.
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GERAINT: The Racecourse itself
is the oldest existing
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international venue
that still hosts football.
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HUGHIE: Better football,
better prospects
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to get what we so desire
in Wrexham.
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GERAINT:
The name "the Racecourse"
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was 'cause the venue
was a racecourse.
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The local authorities
wouldn't allow betting,
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and-and so the tenancy
dropped off
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and-and the football
took over...kept the name.
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ANNOUNCER:
Can he make it five?
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And Jones makes it five!
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[cheering]
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GERAINT: It's just been our
home for all our existence.
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[cheering, chanting]
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[static crackling]
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LOUISE: When Alex Hamilton
took over the club,
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the Ground was owned
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by Wolverhampton
& Dudley Brewery.
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They leased it to the club
for £1 a year.
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The club approached the
brewery to buy the freehold.
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And the very same day
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that the brewery sold
the Ground
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to Wrexham Football Club,
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it was immediately transferred
to another company,
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Damens Limited.
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Damens is wholly owned
by Alex Hamilton.
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So the Ground
belonged to one company
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and the club
belonged to another.
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But both were controlled
by Alex Hamilton.
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SPENCER: Their idea
was to separate the club
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from the stadium
and then bulldoze the stadium
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and turn it into, um,
into a profit.
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[Spiro's "Wolves"]
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BRYN: So they had, um, a plan,
and it was a plan
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to basically kill
the football club, effectively.
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They took all the investment
out over a period
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so it wasn't overt initially.
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But it became apparent
that things weren't--
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bills weren't getting paid
effectively.
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LOUISE: The Inland Revenue
is currently charging the club
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£150 a day in interest
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on a debt
of more than £800,000.
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Earlier this year,
things got so bad
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the bailiffs were called in.
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They assessed
the club's assets
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down to the last plastic seat,
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floodlight, and lawn mower.
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If the tax bill
remains unpaid,
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those assets will be seized.
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- You know, I couldn't believe
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that they would treat the fans
like that.
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It's a--
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Sorry.
- [crew member laughs]
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- You know,
'cause we loved it so much
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and they were just destroying
it for money.
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And it was just so frustrating.
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LOUISE: Mr. Hamilton refused
our requests for an interview.
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We went to the Racecourse,
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where he was attending
a board meeting.
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Wales' Week In Week Out
program.
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I wanted to ask you,
are you sure that the transfer
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of the Racecourse Ground into
your private campaign is legal?
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- We came here...
- Can you answer that question?
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- We came here to deal with
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a son passing away.
- Asset stripping as well.
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ALEX: [indistinct]
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LOUISE: Mr. Hamilton,
please answer my questions.
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- I came here
to deal with one topic,
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which is a personal one
of irregular support--
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LOUISE:
You've been in a board meeting.
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You've been in a board meeting.
Mr. Hamilton,
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you are being accused
of asset stripping this club.
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What do you have to say
about that?
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- Gop. Total rubbish.
LOUISE: It's not rubbish.
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Why have you transferred
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the freehold of this club
into your own--
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why have you transferred...
- Excuse me a moment.
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- The freehold of this club...
ALEX: Excuse me.
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LOUISE: Into your own company?
Why have you done that?
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- I had to deal with
[indistinct] passing away.
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LOUISE: Please stop and talk
to us, Mr. Hamilton.
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These are really
important issues
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we want to discuss with you.
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Mr. Hamilton
was not at the funeral.
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He was attending a directors'
meeting at the club.
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Fans were getting worried.
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They organized mass opposition
to Alex Hamilton's plans.
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He had dropped a bombshell.
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He said the Racecourse
would have to be sold
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if the club was to survive.
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Last July, he served
a legal notice on the club
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to leave the Racecourse
within a year.
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[crowd chanting]
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After 130 years,
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this season could be the last
that Wrexham play there.
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CROWD:
We will not surrender!
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[chanting indistinctly]
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SPENCER:
The supporters rallied round
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and really fought hard.
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- And I was only a kid and we
were walking round the Ground
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with-with banners
and, you know,
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just anything
to save your club.
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SPENCER:
There was a lot of--
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you could call it
guerilla warfare really.
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BRYN: It was a--
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a campaign that was taken
to their front doorsteps.
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- The fans got together.
- Mm, yep.
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- Yeah.
- And said, "We'll have
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to do something drastic."
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JACQUI: Yeah, we did.
JULIE: Mm.
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- And so we did.
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BRYN: The fans gathered
in the town in Cheshire
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just over the border,
where Alex Hamilton lived,
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and they marched
through the town
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protesting against
his ownership
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of the football club.
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LOUISE: It signaled
a declaration of war
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against the chairman.
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[crowd chanting]
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The very same day,
Alex Hamilton responded.
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BRYN:
He'd walked up
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and started talking
to a few people there.
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And this-this was in a week
where he'd described the fans
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as lowlife scum, and there
he was in the middle of 'em.
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[crowd chanting]
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LOUISE:
Fans thought his actions
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were an attempt
to incite trouble.
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- [scoffs] We-we think
he went on there
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in the hope
that somebody would hit him,
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so that he could, uh,
make a great political capital
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out of the fact
that we were football hooligans
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and what have you.
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[crowd chanting]
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LOUISE: Hamilton has since
been advised by the police
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not to attend home matches
at his own club.
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[crowd chanting]
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BRYN:
In a fit of rage,
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he decided
that he was gonna resign.
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And he scrawled it down
on a napkin.
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Basically, I think,
wrote, "I resign"
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and signed it "Alex Hamilton."
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That was him saying,
"I want out,"
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and that was them saying,
"Great. Fine. Off you go."
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[tense music]
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[dramatic musical sting]
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ROB:
Hey, hi, hi, hi, hi.
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Have you heard
from Shaun recently
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about the Racecourse purchase?
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RYAN:
Yeah.
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Yeah, it is taking
a long, long,
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long, long, long fucking time.
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Um, but I also, you know,
I also recognize
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that this is not
a simple thing.
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ROB: I think the thing
that drives me crazy
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is that this is not a process
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that is in place
to protect people.
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In fact, the people
that are getting fucked
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are the people
that are marginalized
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that are the ones
that get fucked over
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always in these kinds of...
RYAN: Rob tends to be
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a bit of a hothead.
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Rob's like-if you were
in a burning building,
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Rob is-Rob is the first guy
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who's gonna run
into that building
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and-and pull you out.
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I might look
at, like, the version
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where we all get out.
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[laughs] Like, okay.
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Like... [laughs]
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That window is molten lava.
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I'm not gonna run through there
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because I won't make it
to the person.
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[laughing] Like, wait,
let's just take a second
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and think about this.
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So yeah.
So what I'm saying is,
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everyone would die
in my version.
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[both laugh]
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Just Rob would die in his.
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- You're so much more patient
than me--you're so patient.
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- I'm not so much more patient.
I just drink more.
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ROB: [laughs]
Is that what I need to do?
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I should just drink.
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- And if you need
any, uh, any gin,
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I-I got a guy.
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ROB: Oh, okay. All right.
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Well... all right, I guess
we'll just keep waiting.
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- We'll just keep waiting.
Um, yeah.
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Waiting is, uh,
my favorite color.
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I will, uh, I will talk
to you very, very soon
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and uh, miss ya, love ya.
- [sighs]
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- Miss you, love you,
miss you, love you, bye.
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He's too nice.
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He's too nice.
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It just-it drives me crazy.
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Not him being nice.
That doesn't drive me crazy.
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It drives me crazy
that we have to...
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just keep waiting.
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We're past the due process
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of-of protecting everybody
involved.
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We're-we're, uh,
we're months past that.
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It's-it's literally waiting
for some lawyer
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to call another lawyer
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who's then gotta call
a committee
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and the committee meets
once every three months.
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And if they miss that
because someone's got the flu,
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then it gets kicked
to the bottom of the pile
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and another lawyer
has to call another lawyer,
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and in-and in the interim,
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it's the team and the town
that get fucked over
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because in-under the auspices
of protecting the club,
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it's hurting the club
because we can't do
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any renovation.
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We can't do any real updating
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because everything
has to go through this process.
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And so we have this plan
to-to revitalize
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the-the-the stadium,
and we can't do anything
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00:16:44,084 --> 00:16:45,453
until we get this information,
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so needless to say,
I'm a little bit frustrated
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and Ryan is not
because he's drunk or whatever.
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[Spiro's "I Fear You
Just as I Fear Ghosts"]
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GERAINT:
So Wrexham is a small town.
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We had the mines starting
to close down.
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We had the Steelworks, and
that was closing down as well.
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00:17:07,096 --> 00:17:09,167
And that has an effect
with the football club.
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00:17:09,201 --> 00:17:11,171
The rent became too much.
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So in 2014, the supporters got
together and saved the club.
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We had to raise £100,000.
It was just amazing.
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Kids were bringing piggy banks.
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JACQUI: But we survived.
ARTHUR: Yeah.
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JACQUI: We survived.
JULIE: We did.
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00:17:23,329 --> 00:17:23,964
JACQUI: We survived.
JULIE: We did.
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00:17:23,997 --> 00:17:26,201
We rose again like a phoenix
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of the ashes.
- [laughs]
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- You know, this is how--
this is how bully
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Wrexham fans are.
We come together
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and we raised £127,000
in one day to save the club.
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And Chester didn't
when they were--
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when they were going bust.
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Their fans didn't rally round.
430
00:17:38,660 --> 00:17:40,263
They went dead. Boomf.
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Wrexham fans wouldn't allow
that to happen.
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JULIE: Oh, that's when--
that's when we took over.
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When we managed to get control
of it,
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that really was one
of the highlights for me.
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00:17:53,455 --> 00:17:56,696
Regardless of what we won
with-with trophies and things.
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That was marvelous,
but to think
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that we could safeguard
the club,
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00:18:00,671 --> 00:18:02,508
that was just fantastic,
you know?
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00:18:02,541 --> 00:18:04,177
And-and...
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oh, gosh.
[laughs]
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00:18:06,315 --> 00:18:08,653
[soft music]
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BRYN: On one hand, the club
was in safe hands again now,
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but on the other, it's actually
quite an expensive business
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00:18:14,565 --> 00:18:15,834
running a football club.
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00:18:15,867 --> 00:18:18,172
SPENCER:
It's ordinary Joes
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with whatever they can afford.
447
00:18:20,343 --> 00:18:21,846
You know, the minimum
some people are putting in it
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is £12 a year.
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00:18:24,619 --> 00:18:26,421
You know,
some people contribute
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a lot more than that.
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Some people only put
in the minimum amount
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but then do lots
of volunteering
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and-and-and contributing
in other ways.
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JACQUI:
Walked up mountains literally.
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Walked up Snowdon, didn't they?
JULIE: Yes.
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00:18:39,882 --> 00:18:41,318
- To raise money...
JULIE: Yes.
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00:18:41,351 --> 00:18:42,353
- For the club.
JULIE: Yeah.
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And didn't we do
a-a collection
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for the wages once?
BOTH: Yep.
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- Yes.
- Yep, yep.
461
00:18:47,330 --> 00:18:49,702
[overlapping chatter]
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00:18:49,735 --> 00:18:51,138
- Yeah, pulled together
to pay wages.
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JACQUI:
We just passed a hat around.
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JULIE: Kenny Pemberton...
- Yeah, people--
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JULIE: His house.
- Yeah, people put...
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JULIE: Gosh.
JACQUI: Put money in and--
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well, we all did, didn't we?
- Mm.
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And we've got a lot
to be grateful
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to the-to the Trust for.
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And all those people
who worked so hard.
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JACQUI: Yeah, yeah.
- I mean, we're members,
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but there's people
that worked harder than us.
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JACQUI: Gosh, yeah.
- Gosh.
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- Frankly, the club
has been struggling
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00:19:12,881 --> 00:19:16,889
from that point onwards
to this very day.
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00:19:16,923 --> 00:19:18,727
If the club
doesn't do so well
477
00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:20,897
and the attendance goes down,
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then the manager doesn't get
as much money
479
00:19:23,268 --> 00:19:26,609
as he was expecting to get
to invest in his football side,
480
00:19:26,642 --> 00:19:29,481
and so the football team
isn't quite as good again.
481
00:19:29,515 --> 00:19:31,786
So it's been an issue
that's followed the club
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through all the years
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that the fans have been
in control.
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00:19:35,494 --> 00:19:38,500
[melancholic music]
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GERAINT:
It's an outdoor setting,
486
00:19:40,236 --> 00:19:42,641
so it does wear and tear,
weathers.
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00:19:42,674 --> 00:19:44,945
It needs work all the time.
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00:19:44,979 --> 00:19:47,651
Obviously, behind the goal,
we've seen "the Kop,"
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uh, was closed 'cause we just
didn't have the money
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00:19:50,289 --> 00:19:51,759
to-to keep it open.
491
00:19:51,793 --> 00:19:53,095
Oh, God.
It's all leaking, isn't it?
492
00:19:53,128 --> 00:19:55,801
Uh, we used to get, uh, people
complaining that the r--
493
00:19:55,834 --> 00:19:57,470
when on a rainy day,
the rain was coming through
494
00:19:57,504 --> 00:19:59,742
and dripping on them.
495
00:19:59,775 --> 00:20:02,246
They just drain money,
don't they, football grounds?
496
00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:03,950
BRYN: The club lost control
of the stadium
497
00:20:03,983 --> 00:20:07,256
and the club began
this inexorable slide down
498
00:20:07,290 --> 00:20:08,793
through the tiers
into this position
499
00:20:08,827 --> 00:20:11,799
that it now finds itself in,
in this fifth tier.
500
00:20:11,833 --> 00:20:15,439
So it had a-it had
a seismic impact on the club.
501
00:20:15,473 --> 00:20:17,578
- I didn't see a lot of hope
under the Trust ownership
502
00:20:17,611 --> 00:20:19,548
and that's not a dig
at them because, you know,
503
00:20:19,582 --> 00:20:21,686
they've put their time in
and I respect them for it.
504
00:20:21,719 --> 00:20:23,723
So it's not a dig at them
in the slightest.
505
00:20:23,757 --> 00:20:25,226
I just didn't see
an out for the club.
506
00:20:25,259 --> 00:20:26,929
I didn't see a--
I didn't see a way forward.
507
00:20:26,963 --> 00:20:30,269
Um, a lot of fans didn't see
a way forward.
508
00:20:30,302 --> 00:20:32,975
- You know, those times
were real bad, real low,
509
00:20:33,008 --> 00:20:35,680
really low because you--you
knew we didn't have the money
510
00:20:35,714 --> 00:20:36,949
to get players.
511
00:20:36,983 --> 00:20:39,387
You knew players
weren't getting paid on time.
512
00:20:39,421 --> 00:20:41,659
So it was just
a knock-on effect
513
00:20:41,692 --> 00:20:43,997
and it was-it was a terrible
time to be a fan.
514
00:20:44,030 --> 00:20:45,700
It's been... [laughs]
it's been a terrible time
515
00:20:45,734 --> 00:20:47,303
to be a fan
for a long time now
516
00:20:47,336 --> 00:20:48,706
to say the truth.
517
00:20:48,740 --> 00:20:50,409
- Sam walked in and he said,
"You'll never guess
518
00:20:50,443 --> 00:20:52,346
who's bought
Wrexham Football Club."
519
00:20:52,380 --> 00:20:53,716
And I said, "Who?"
520
00:20:53,750 --> 00:20:55,554
He said, "Ryan Reynolds
and Rob McElhenney."
521
00:20:55,587 --> 00:20:56,856
I said...
522
00:20:56,889 --> 00:20:59,427
"As in Ryan Reynolds
523
00:20:59,461 --> 00:21:02,300
as in actor and Rob"--
I said, "I don't know him."
524
00:21:02,333 --> 00:21:04,304
He said, "Oh, yeah,
you wouldn't know him.
525
00:21:04,337 --> 00:21:05,707
Always Sunny in Philadelphia."
I said,
526
00:21:05,740 --> 00:21:07,343
"Oh, yes. Right, okay."
527
00:21:07,376 --> 00:21:08,847
Uh, I said, "You're joking."
528
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,449
"Nope, that's right," he said.
529
00:21:10,483 --> 00:21:11,451
"They've bought it."
[laughing] I said,
530
00:21:11,485 --> 00:21:13,322
"I can't believe it."
531
00:21:13,355 --> 00:21:17,898
Funny though, how, you know,
a little bit of good news...
532
00:21:17,931 --> 00:21:19,033
- Rubs off.
- Suddenly boosts
533
00:21:19,067 --> 00:21:20,469
everything up.
- Rubs off.
534
00:21:20,504 --> 00:21:22,340
- Yeah.
- Yeah, I mean, that's amazing.
535
00:21:22,373 --> 00:21:23,342
Isn't it?
- Mm.
536
00:21:23,375 --> 00:21:24,377
- What's happening now for me
537
00:21:24,410 --> 00:21:27,483
is reward, um,
538
00:21:27,518 --> 00:21:29,487
for the-the effort
and the sacrifices
539
00:21:29,522 --> 00:21:31,057
that supporters have put into
football club over the years.
540
00:21:31,091 --> 00:21:32,995
- And when they came
into buy it this time,
541
00:21:33,028 --> 00:21:35,634
I was a bit suspicious
and I thought,
542
00:21:35,667 --> 00:21:38,472
"You know, are they going
to love the club like we do?
543
00:21:38,506 --> 00:21:42,781
"Are they really going
to-to have
544
00:21:42,815 --> 00:21:46,354
the-the best interests
of the club at heart?"
545
00:21:46,388 --> 00:21:47,858
And I just hope
they don't let us down.
546
00:21:47,891 --> 00:21:50,029
You know, it's, um,
you know, we--
547
00:21:50,062 --> 00:21:51,999
well, we pray
that they don't let us down.
548
00:21:52,033 --> 00:21:53,536
- They better not.
- Yeah.
549
00:21:53,570 --> 00:21:55,039
- You-you wouldn't cross
a Wrexham fan.
550
00:21:55,072 --> 00:21:57,476
- Don't, 'cause Wrexham--
Wrexham fans don't forgive...
551
00:21:57,511 --> 00:21:59,047
- They don't forgive easily.
- Very easily.
552
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:04,992
[light music]
553
00:22:10,637 --> 00:22:11,906
[phone chimes]
ROB: You have some news
554
00:22:11,939 --> 00:22:13,676
for us?
555
00:22:13,710 --> 00:22:15,747
Is it good news?
- Well, it is.
556
00:22:15,780 --> 00:22:18,686
After, uh, many months
of trying
557
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,924
and, uh, frustration,
558
00:22:20,957 --> 00:22:22,561
I would like
to congratulate you.
559
00:22:22,594 --> 00:22:24,932
You are now the proud owners
of the Racecourse Ground.
560
00:22:24,965 --> 00:22:27,103
- Whoa!
- Yes!
561
00:22:27,136 --> 00:22:29,575
Oh, my God!
RYAN: Come on!
562
00:22:29,608 --> 00:22:30,911
There we go!
563
00:22:30,944 --> 00:22:33,415
- Wrexham AFC
owns the Racecourse Ground
564
00:22:33,448 --> 00:22:34,985
and, uh,
you've made it possible
565
00:22:35,019 --> 00:22:37,791
and, you know, and keeping--
and keeping true to your words
566
00:22:37,824 --> 00:22:40,630
in the mission statement,
so congratulations.
567
00:22:40,664 --> 00:22:42,400
- Truly, you have made it
possible--
568
00:22:42,433 --> 00:22:46,676
you, um, HK and Shaun
and-and-and Ryan.
569
00:22:46,709 --> 00:22:48,947
Like, I-I've just--
I-I hadn't--
570
00:22:48,980 --> 00:22:51,418
I lost my patience
with it so long ago
571
00:22:51,451 --> 00:22:52,955
that I had to check out of it
completely
572
00:22:52,988 --> 00:22:54,592
and I just appreciate you guys.
573
00:22:54,625 --> 00:22:56,094
- This is why Shaun wanted
to do it over Zoom
574
00:22:56,127 --> 00:22:58,432
is he-he wanted
to see your angry,
575
00:22:58,465 --> 00:23:00,469
scrunched-up,
sad little face, Rob,
576
00:23:00,503 --> 00:23:02,708
blossom into a smile.
577
00:23:02,741 --> 00:23:04,878
RYAN: Having the oldest
international
578
00:23:04,912 --> 00:23:07,684
football stadium on the planet
under our stewardship
579
00:23:07,718 --> 00:23:09,588
is, like, both elation
580
00:23:09,622 --> 00:23:12,026
and weirdly,
I can feel an ulcer growing
581
00:23:12,059 --> 00:23:13,830
as we speak.
- [laughs]
582
00:23:13,863 --> 00:23:15,600
- Oh, have you got the email
I've just sent you?
583
00:23:15,634 --> 00:23:17,571
'Cause there is a second bit
of news today.
584
00:23:17,604 --> 00:23:18,873
- Oh!
SHAUN: If you open--
585
00:23:18,907 --> 00:23:19,942
If you-so there you go.
586
00:23:19,975 --> 00:23:21,111
So if you want to open it up,
587
00:23:21,144 --> 00:23:24,150
they are your first
rendered images
588
00:23:24,183 --> 00:23:26,121
of the new stand
589
00:23:26,154 --> 00:23:28,125
the AFL architects
have put together for us.
590
00:23:28,158 --> 00:23:29,127
- Wow!
- Oh.
591
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,864
Wow.
592
00:23:30,897 --> 00:23:34,605
- That is a big-time football
stadium right there.
593
00:23:34,638 --> 00:23:36,609
That is a--
- And that's just one stand.
594
00:23:36,642 --> 00:23:37,878
That's just "the Kop" stand.
- Yeah.
595
00:23:37,911 --> 00:23:39,648
- So-so what would be
the next stand
596
00:23:39,682 --> 00:23:40,750
that we would do?
- Ugh, give him an inch,
597
00:23:40,784 --> 00:23:41,986
he'll take a mile, Shaun.
598
00:23:42,019 --> 00:23:43,623
I'm so sorry about--
599
00:23:43,656 --> 00:23:45,627
Wait, when can we--when can we
show this to the public?
600
00:23:45,660 --> 00:23:49,133
- Uh, I need to go through the
Council with Levelling Up Fund.
601
00:23:49,167 --> 00:23:52,039
We probably need
to warn a couple of people
602
00:23:52,073 --> 00:23:54,010
at the Council
it's coming out,
603
00:23:54,043 --> 00:23:56,481
and then we can arrange
a public launch
604
00:23:56,515 --> 00:23:59,053
and I think it'd be really
useful to do that
605
00:23:59,087 --> 00:24:00,523
because you have
to have a pre--
606
00:24:00,557 --> 00:24:03,028
uh, a pre-application
consultation period--
607
00:24:03,061 --> 00:24:06,001
ROB: A pre-application
consultation period?
608
00:24:06,034 --> 00:24:07,136
SHAUN:
More bureaucracy, I know.
609
00:24:07,169 --> 00:24:09,508
But at least--
- It's incredible.
610
00:24:09,541 --> 00:24:11,044
Let's just put it out.
Let's just put it out.
611
00:24:11,077 --> 00:24:12,547
Let's just put it out.
SHAUN: At least, at least--
612
00:24:12,581 --> 00:24:14,183
no, don't just put it out yet.
613
00:24:14,217 --> 00:24:16,622
We-I'll-I'll give you the--
I'll give you the nod
614
00:24:16,656 --> 00:24:17,958
when you can put it out.
- Incredible.
615
00:24:17,991 --> 00:24:19,495
- Thank you, Shaun.
Thank you for that great news.
616
00:24:19,528 --> 00:24:20,497
- Pleasure.
RYAN: That is so neat.
617
00:24:20,530 --> 00:24:21,932
- We're putting out the video.
618
00:24:21,966 --> 00:24:22,868
We're putting out the video,
we're putting out the video.
619
00:24:22,901 --> 00:24:24,170
Bye, love you, love you, bye.
- Oh, boy.
620
00:24:24,203 --> 00:24:25,907
- Okay, bye.
- Bye, bye, bye, bye.
621
00:24:25,940 --> 00:24:31,852
[grand orchestral music]
622
00:25:36,916 --> 00:25:38,553
[child giggles, seagull cries]