1 00:00:04,900 --> 00:00:09,830 [engine whirring] 2 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:17,830 [Jason] This is a dream come true. 3 00:00:18,900 --> 00:00:21,000 I'm actually lighting for Todd Hido. 4 00:00:21,870 --> 00:00:22,870 Move in closer? 5 00:00:23,930 --> 00:00:25,430 I'm using my brake lights. 6 00:00:26,100 --> 00:00:27,400 [producer] Back up halfway. 7 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:28,930 Halfway. 8 00:00:28,930 --> 00:00:32,570 I'm using the truck to bounce a bit of a red on that wall, 9 00:00:32,570 --> 00:00:33,700 so it will look good. 10 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,000 Oh, can't believe this is happening. 11 00:00:39,970 --> 00:00:41,200 This is unbelievable. 12 00:00:45,170 --> 00:00:47,370 ["Wherever I May Roam" by Metallica playing] 13 00:01:08,330 --> 00:01:11,830 ♪ And the road Becomes my bride ♪ 14 00:01:11,830 --> 00:01:15,670 ♪ I have stripped Of all but pride ♪ 15 00:01:15,670 --> 00:01:19,200 ♪ So in her I do confide ♪ 16 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,170 ♪ Off the beaten path I reign ♪ 17 00:01:23,170 --> 00:01:25,100 ♪ Rover, wanderer ♪ 18 00:01:25,100 --> 00:01:27,000 ♪ Nomad, vagabond ♪ 19 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,270 ♪ Call me what you will ♪ 20 00:01:32,300 --> 00:01:36,030 ♪ Wherever I may roam ♪ 21 00:01:39,700 --> 00:01:44,200 ♪ Wherever I may roam, yeah ♪ 22 00:01:50,300 --> 00:01:52,770 Just being in this neighborhood, I got a little bit anxiety 23 00:01:52,770 --> 00:01:55,970 'cause I'm like, I wonder if all these people know that 24 00:01:55,970 --> 00:01:57,100 Todd Hido lives here. 25 00:02:03,930 --> 00:02:05,130 Hey, Todd! 26 00:02:07,870 --> 00:02:10,200 Oh, man! 27 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:11,700 [exclaims] Ah! 28 00:02:11,700 --> 00:02:13,100 Nice to meet you, man. 29 00:02:13,100 --> 00:02:16,500 -Man, it's nice to meet you, too, brother. -Yeah, yeah. 30 00:02:17,730 --> 00:02:19,430 -Your house is beautiful. -Thank you. 31 00:02:19,430 --> 00:02:21,130 Thank you, thank you. 32 00:02:21,130 --> 00:02:22,600 -Wow! -Come on in. 33 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:23,500 I'll take the shoes off. 34 00:02:23,500 --> 00:02:25,470 Well, the first time I saw his photos, 35 00:02:25,470 --> 00:02:28,770 that was at least 18 years ago, maybe. 36 00:02:30,130 --> 00:02:32,530 It was just, "Who's taking pictures of my memories? 37 00:02:32,530 --> 00:02:34,400 How did this person get in my mind?" 38 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,970 Walking into his place 39 00:02:40,970 --> 00:02:43,530 and seeing those pictures and those colors, 40 00:02:43,530 --> 00:02:45,670 that was just an open heart 41 00:02:45,670 --> 00:02:49,230 going like, "Bro, blast them on an aloha to go like... 42 00:02:49,230 --> 00:02:52,500 I mean, I truly 100 percent moved by your work. 43 00:02:52,500 --> 00:02:54,130 I wanna make my movies like you. 44 00:02:54,130 --> 00:02:55,700 I wanna shoot like you." 45 00:02:55,700 --> 00:02:57,470 -There it is. -[Todd] Yeah. 46 00:02:57,470 --> 00:03:00,130 [Jason] Okay, so that was my favorite painting that you've ever made. 47 00:03:00,130 --> 00:03:01,500 -Uh-huh. -For me. 48 00:03:01,500 --> 00:03:03,070 Because it just reminded me 49 00:03:03,070 --> 00:03:04,770 exactly the backstreets of where I'm at. 50 00:03:04,770 --> 00:03:06,930 That was, like, that was the first one that I saw. 51 00:03:06,930 --> 00:03:08,330 [Todd] Jason and I met 52 00:03:08,330 --> 00:03:10,900 because he liked something of mine on Instagram. 53 00:03:10,900 --> 00:03:13,730 And I was like, "Oh, that's Jason Momoa." 54 00:03:13,730 --> 00:03:16,270 I didn't know anything about his love of photography. 55 00:03:16,270 --> 00:03:18,400 I didn't know much about him except he was an actor 56 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:19,830 and I liked what he did. 57 00:03:20,730 --> 00:03:22,530 I don't think I really understood 58 00:03:22,530 --> 00:03:26,570 how much of a true fan he was of my work 59 00:03:26,570 --> 00:03:29,600 and how much he knew about it. 60 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,230 [Jason] So, my best friend, 61 00:03:31,230 --> 00:03:33,830 him and I used to get postcards. 62 00:03:33,830 --> 00:03:35,430 We put 'em everywhere. 63 00:03:35,430 --> 00:03:36,870 I'd get two copies of your books. 64 00:03:36,870 --> 00:03:39,000 -I can travel with them, I can hang 'em on my wall. -[Todd] Oh, wow. 65 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,800 Hido, Hido. It goes like this, buddy. 66 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,770 -It goes, Tom Waits... -[Todd] Uh-huh. 67 00:03:43,770 --> 00:03:45,300 -...and there's Todd Hido. -[Todd] Oh, man. 68 00:03:45,300 --> 00:03:47,530 -[Jason] You're fucking up there, bro. -That's fucking awesome. 69 00:03:47,530 --> 00:03:49,400 You might be out here. As far as I go, you're like... 70 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,030 There may be a filmmaker in there somewhere. 71 00:03:52,030 --> 00:03:54,770 But you're fucking top. I might even say four. 72 00:03:54,770 --> 00:03:55,970 Thank you, I appreciate that. 73 00:03:55,970 --> 00:03:58,800 It's insane, like, because the way how I feel 74 00:03:58,800 --> 00:03:59,830 and how I see... 75 00:03:59,830 --> 00:04:01,830 My God, dude. It's... 76 00:04:01,830 --> 00:04:04,370 All that stuff, it's like, Hido has like... 77 00:04:04,370 --> 00:04:06,500 I wanna thank you for everything you make, man. 78 00:04:06,500 --> 00:04:07,930 I'm not a big photography fan 79 00:04:07,930 --> 00:04:10,030 in the sense of, like, I collect photography. 80 00:04:10,030 --> 00:04:12,600 I only have Todd. I only look at his stuff. 81 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,330 And even though he has all these books that inspire him, 82 00:04:15,330 --> 00:04:17,830 you know what I mean, like it's just him. 83 00:04:17,830 --> 00:04:18,830 It's so simple for me. 84 00:04:18,830 --> 00:04:20,500 -[Todd] Yeah, yeah, thank you. -Yeah. 85 00:04:20,500 --> 00:04:21,870 This is my birthday present. 86 00:04:21,870 --> 00:04:24,900 -[Todd] Yeah, it's awesome. -I'm at Todd Hido's house. 87 00:04:24,900 --> 00:04:26,670 [all laughing] 88 00:04:26,670 --> 00:04:28,430 Just before, it's "Hai-do" 89 00:04:28,430 --> 00:04:29,970 -"Hai-do!" -Yeah, yeah. People always-- 90 00:04:29,970 --> 00:04:30,870 Fucking A! 91 00:04:30,870 --> 00:04:33,170 Yeah, it should be called Hido. 92 00:04:33,170 --> 00:04:34,900 My name is Marina. 93 00:04:34,900 --> 00:04:36,130 My name is Marina Luz. 94 00:04:36,930 --> 00:04:39,300 My name is Marina Luz Hido. [laughs] 95 00:04:39,300 --> 00:04:41,770 [laughing] Okay, wait. Start over. 96 00:04:44,070 --> 00:04:45,270 My name is Marina Luz. 97 00:04:46,070 --> 00:04:48,300 And I am Todd Hido's wife. 98 00:04:48,300 --> 00:04:50,500 And I try to help him out by driving him around, 99 00:04:50,500 --> 00:04:52,530 so he's free to look at the world. 100 00:04:54,830 --> 00:04:56,000 Based on his artwork, 101 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:00,300 people think he's probably like a moody, quiet loner. 102 00:05:01,300 --> 00:05:04,870 He is a talkative goofball. 103 00:05:04,870 --> 00:05:06,770 And I love that. 104 00:05:06,770 --> 00:05:09,170 -Fuck, yeah, bro. I got this. -[Todd] There we go. 105 00:05:09,170 --> 00:05:12,700 -[Marina laughs] -Listen, I don't ride in the back seat for anyone. 106 00:05:12,700 --> 00:05:15,530 That's the biggest compliment I can give. 107 00:05:15,530 --> 00:05:17,200 Thank you, sir. I appreciate it. 108 00:05:18,430 --> 00:05:21,070 [Marina] He reminds me a lot of J in a lot of ways. 109 00:05:21,070 --> 00:05:22,670 Like, the way their minds work. 110 00:05:22,670 --> 00:05:23,970 I can just see both of them 111 00:05:23,970 --> 00:05:26,100 just taking in the entire world. 112 00:05:28,030 --> 00:05:29,700 This is gonna be so exciting. 113 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,300 The fog is rolling in and it's smoky. 114 00:05:35,300 --> 00:05:37,570 So, Todd has never had this before, 115 00:05:37,570 --> 00:05:38,830 so we brought him the luck. 116 00:05:41,070 --> 00:05:42,000 Oh, man! 117 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,000 I just wanna learn from him. 118 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,700 I wanna see his process. 119 00:05:45,700 --> 00:05:48,200 Just be a fly on the wall and, like, watch him work. 120 00:05:50,900 --> 00:05:54,370 We drove 20 minutes, 30 minutes, 121 00:05:54,370 --> 00:05:56,600 and all of a sudden the fog hits, 122 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,930 and then, wazang! 123 00:05:58,930 --> 00:06:02,530 There's a frickin Todd Hido painting. 124 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:07,770 Through the windshield, 125 00:06:07,770 --> 00:06:08,970 there's all the raindrops 126 00:06:08,970 --> 00:06:10,100 and all the mist, all the fog, 127 00:06:10,100 --> 00:06:12,530 and I'm like, "Holy shit. 128 00:06:12,530 --> 00:06:15,400 I cannot believe what I'm seeing." 129 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:16,830 Wow. 130 00:06:17,870 --> 00:06:18,770 Wow. 131 00:06:20,970 --> 00:06:23,500 [Todd] I found this one neighborhood in Pacifica. 132 00:06:23,500 --> 00:06:26,100 It was like, way back in 1996, 133 00:06:26,100 --> 00:06:29,070 and I've been going there ever since to make pictures. 134 00:06:37,270 --> 00:06:39,270 So, like, I'm sure that I was, like, 135 00:06:39,270 --> 00:06:41,430 I was scanning, like, right here somewhere 136 00:06:41,430 --> 00:06:42,930 on the tripod and stuff and, like, 137 00:06:42,930 --> 00:06:44,930 and that covered car was, like, 138 00:06:44,930 --> 00:06:46,530 right where that white car is. 139 00:06:46,530 --> 00:06:48,430 And this is the light. 140 00:06:48,430 --> 00:06:51,500 The wind was moving on up, that it was like blowing the car cover. 141 00:06:51,500 --> 00:06:53,270 [Jason] It's crazy, this is the spot right here. 142 00:06:53,270 --> 00:06:54,430 [Todd] Oh, yeah, this is it. 143 00:07:00,570 --> 00:07:01,830 This is special, man. 144 00:07:01,830 --> 00:07:02,930 [Todd laughs] 145 00:07:02,930 --> 00:07:03,870 You got me, dude. 146 00:07:03,870 --> 00:07:05,430 [exclaims] Oh, man! 147 00:07:06,170 --> 00:07:08,130 Dude, I'm so stoked. 148 00:07:08,130 --> 00:07:09,670 -Wow! -I'm stoked, too, man. 149 00:07:09,670 --> 00:07:10,700 And these lights only get better 150 00:07:10,700 --> 00:07:11,870 -'cause everyone's lights are turned on. -Yeah. 151 00:07:11,870 --> 00:07:13,730 Look at this beach house, look at these windows. 152 00:07:13,730 --> 00:07:16,700 Who the fuck makes them? Look at this house! 153 00:07:16,700 --> 00:07:20,470 [Todd] A lot of the houses look just like the houses in the Midwest 154 00:07:20,470 --> 00:07:22,730 because they were built by the same builder 155 00:07:22,730 --> 00:07:25,570 of the first suburb of America which was Levittown. 156 00:07:26,530 --> 00:07:28,700 They built a neighborhood in Pacifica, 157 00:07:28,700 --> 00:07:31,270 which is bizarre, but true. 158 00:07:33,700 --> 00:07:36,200 Ah, look at the view, dude. 159 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,200 Great to meet you, man. It's really fun. 160 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,300 -Awesome. -I'm gonna show you guys something else, too. 161 00:07:41,870 --> 00:07:43,800 So, that's a lot of window and then, 162 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,530 -back of this house-- -[Jason] Those are rad! 163 00:07:45,530 --> 00:07:48,300 If you turn right, right here, 164 00:07:48,300 --> 00:07:50,630 -we can park, like, right there... -[Marina] Yep. 165 00:07:50,630 --> 00:07:52,300 [Todd] ...where there's no people. 166 00:07:52,830 --> 00:07:54,370 I revisit places a lot 167 00:07:54,370 --> 00:07:56,370 because it's always, like, if you're panning for gold 168 00:07:56,370 --> 00:07:59,200 and you strike gold, like, you don't go and move down the river. 169 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,430 You know, you keep your stick around that area a little bit. 170 00:08:02,430 --> 00:08:04,930 And I've revisited places... 171 00:08:04,930 --> 00:08:06,100 If you go right. 172 00:08:06,100 --> 00:08:10,430 ...and I've noticed things change in so many places. 173 00:08:10,430 --> 00:08:12,730 [Jason] But also you change and your eyes changes and-- 174 00:08:12,730 --> 00:08:13,800 [Todd] Yeah, it's true. 175 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,230 [Jason] The thing, too, is the environment changes 176 00:08:15,230 --> 00:08:19,330 and that's, like, such a huge crucial point in both of our art forms. 177 00:08:19,330 --> 00:08:22,270 It is that thing of, like, constantly being aware and being in the moment 178 00:08:22,270 --> 00:08:24,970 and searching and looking and enlightenment is like being aware. 179 00:08:24,970 --> 00:08:27,400 And so, when you're out hunting in those moments, 180 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:28,930 you're getting inspired by all these things. 181 00:08:28,930 --> 00:08:31,200 It's like, that's what fuels me. 182 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,430 And to be in the passenger seat 183 00:08:34,430 --> 00:08:38,070 with him in the cockpit, like, "Bro, I can't believe this is happening." 184 00:08:41,330 --> 00:08:43,170 We just rolled up to some supermarket 185 00:08:43,170 --> 00:08:46,400 and I'm like, "Wow, is it like, KFC and fucking Taco Bell?" 186 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,130 And then we roll out and he goes behind the grocery store, 187 00:08:49,130 --> 00:08:51,130 and it's like, there's a pink house, 188 00:08:51,130 --> 00:08:53,200 there's a beige house, there's the blue house, 189 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,530 and they're, I mean, it's fucking paintings. 190 00:08:56,500 --> 00:08:57,900 It's insane. 191 00:08:57,900 --> 00:08:59,300 And it's all foggy! 192 00:08:59,300 --> 00:09:00,700 It's foggy with smoke, 193 00:09:00,700 --> 00:09:03,700 and then it just happens to have water on our windshield right now. 194 00:09:03,700 --> 00:09:05,330 It's insane, bro. My mind is-- 195 00:09:05,330 --> 00:09:07,300 [man on phone] That's his thing, isn't it? 196 00:09:07,300 --> 00:09:09,130 That's his fucking thing, but I just rolled right in. 197 00:09:09,130 --> 00:09:11,170 And we just came from, like, sun. 198 00:09:11,170 --> 00:09:12,470 Right at his house and there was sun out. 199 00:09:12,470 --> 00:09:14,230 -[man on phone] Insane. -[Jason] It's unbelievable. 200 00:09:17,530 --> 00:09:19,000 [Todd] Over the years, I've learned 201 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,500 that all the good stuff is behind something else. 202 00:09:21,500 --> 00:09:24,000 Behind a hotel or behind the supermarket 203 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,630 or in a back around the fence. 204 00:09:25,630 --> 00:09:26,970 So, like, that's the part of the world 205 00:09:26,970 --> 00:09:28,600 that people aren't paying attention to 206 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,270 and that's where the reality is. 207 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,200 [exclaims] Yeah! 208 00:09:46,070 --> 00:09:47,530 Yeah! 209 00:09:47,530 --> 00:09:49,700 License and registration, sir. 210 00:09:49,700 --> 00:09:50,870 Oh, excuse me. 211 00:09:50,870 --> 00:09:52,070 "I'm Todd Hido." 212 00:09:52,070 --> 00:09:55,070 -Oh, okay. My bad, sir. -[laughs] 213 00:09:55,070 --> 00:09:56,170 It's funny. 214 00:09:56,170 --> 00:09:57,630 It's an amazing house, but-- 215 00:09:57,630 --> 00:09:59,530 Also, what's cool about this car is perfect 216 00:09:59,530 --> 00:10:00,800 is it's just nondescript. 217 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,800 -Yeah. -It's just like, nobody notices you. 218 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:05,600 That's what I got to do, bro. 219 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,770 You get rid of that pink Cadillac, man. 220 00:10:07,770 --> 00:10:09,730 Pink Cadillac and the gigantic earth warmer. 221 00:10:09,730 --> 00:10:12,370 You need a little more, like, a bit more, like, lowkey. 222 00:10:12,370 --> 00:10:14,530 Maybe cut the hair and take off the pink shirt. 223 00:10:14,530 --> 00:10:17,030 -Yeah, right. -Look at me! Look at me! 224 00:10:18,870 --> 00:10:20,670 It just makes you wanna hunt. You know what I mean? 225 00:10:20,670 --> 00:10:21,630 He has it in him. 226 00:10:21,630 --> 00:10:25,470 It's just hunting for places and moments, 227 00:10:25,470 --> 00:10:29,870 and what the environment holds and every day is different. 228 00:10:29,870 --> 00:10:33,070 Every day has its own beauty and you just got to have the right set of eyes. 229 00:10:38,330 --> 00:10:40,030 It's all in the back alleyways. 230 00:10:40,030 --> 00:10:41,800 Side beads underneath the table. 231 00:10:43,470 --> 00:10:45,100 I just call it the psion filter. 232 00:10:45,100 --> 00:10:47,300 -Yeah, psion. -You can go just like, "We're using psion filter." 233 00:10:47,300 --> 00:10:48,300 -Yes, exactly. -[Jason] Perfect. 234 00:10:49,270 --> 00:10:50,670 [Todd] Shooting through the window, 235 00:10:50,670 --> 00:10:53,870 which is something I do, not all the time, but a lot of the time. 236 00:10:55,170 --> 00:10:56,470 It happened from just like, 237 00:10:56,470 --> 00:10:58,470 you know, I was driving down the road, 238 00:10:58,470 --> 00:11:00,170 and it was starting to rain. 239 00:11:02,230 --> 00:11:05,330 And there was just all this amazing stuff happened in front of me, 240 00:11:05,330 --> 00:11:07,670 but I couldn't stop the car because I was driving. 241 00:11:07,670 --> 00:11:11,130 So, I just took a few photographs that way, 242 00:11:11,130 --> 00:11:12,700 and then, they worked. 243 00:11:18,430 --> 00:11:20,600 There was something about, like, the look 244 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,700 that that gave the picture through the window of the car. 245 00:11:23,700 --> 00:11:26,800 It's just has this feeling that that works for me. 246 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,100 I think his photographs work in a lot of the same ways as memories 247 00:11:31,100 --> 00:11:33,570 where your memory isn't perfectly sharp. 248 00:11:33,570 --> 00:11:35,730 You remember certain things with perfect clarity 249 00:11:35,730 --> 00:11:37,070 or you think you do, 250 00:11:37,070 --> 00:11:38,470 and then, other things are a little fuzzy. 251 00:11:38,470 --> 00:11:40,030 And that's the way his images work. 252 00:11:43,730 --> 00:11:46,100 [Jason] His eye pierces my heart. 253 00:11:46,730 --> 00:11:48,530 Being raised in Iowa, 254 00:11:48,530 --> 00:11:50,500 I knew what it was like to go and sit on the prairies 255 00:11:50,500 --> 00:11:52,200 and drive hours without seeing anything 256 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,430 and in that space, I just 257 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:56,800 you got to get creative. 258 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,270 [lilting music playing] 259 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,100 [Todd] There's this thing in photography about the decisive moment. 260 00:12:14,100 --> 00:12:17,800 I know for a fact there's decisive moments out in the landscape 261 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,370 that have to do with light, the weather, 262 00:12:20,370 --> 00:12:24,100 and the place and you coming together all at the same time. 263 00:12:27,100 --> 00:12:28,700 [Jason] A lifetime of honing his craft 264 00:12:28,700 --> 00:12:31,330 has given Todd a kind of control over his images 265 00:12:31,330 --> 00:12:33,070 that appears effortless. 266 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,500 This is pretty surreal because 267 00:12:38,030 --> 00:12:41,370 we're in a ranch market. 268 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,030 It's like a... a shopping center. 269 00:12:46,030 --> 00:12:48,570 -[Todd] Cue the rain. -And he stops right here. 270 00:12:50,500 --> 00:12:52,570 It's not raining outside, 271 00:12:52,570 --> 00:12:54,270 but because of the condensation, 272 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,300 he waits and he gets... 273 00:12:57,300 --> 00:13:00,430 I can hear it all the rain getting on the windshield. 274 00:13:03,170 --> 00:13:06,230 And there's fog in this town, obviously, we're close to the ocean 275 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,530 in Northern California. 276 00:13:08,530 --> 00:13:10,130 And it gets rainy. 277 00:13:10,130 --> 00:13:12,570 And we go down this back alleyway. 278 00:13:16,630 --> 00:13:18,730 This isn't much and that's all you can see. 279 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,900 We see a light come on to the fog inside one of the houses. 280 00:13:33,630 --> 00:13:36,330 You know, how we were talking about perfect timing. 281 00:13:36,330 --> 00:13:38,470 We were exactly where we're supposed to be. 282 00:13:40,300 --> 00:13:44,000 And I'm standing behind Todd and I'm like, "I just wanna capture him. 283 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:45,270 It's like he's in his own painting right now." 284 00:13:45,270 --> 00:13:47,300 And I'm just sitting there looking at Todd 285 00:13:47,300 --> 00:13:48,570 and he's in his painting right now. 286 00:13:49,870 --> 00:13:51,270 I'm completely in his world. 287 00:13:53,370 --> 00:13:56,170 -Wow! -[Todd] That's a beauty. I like that. 288 00:13:59,130 --> 00:14:01,600 Like, perspective, and then the clouds. 289 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,700 Like, the sky looks purple right now. 290 00:14:04,300 --> 00:14:06,470 It's cool. 291 00:14:06,470 --> 00:14:09,270 [Jason] It's basically, Hido's dreamland. 292 00:14:09,270 --> 00:14:11,600 [Todd] It really is, like, fucking cool. I love it here. 293 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,630 I've been coming here for 20 years, man. 294 00:14:14,930 --> 00:14:16,670 Look at that, the maestro. 295 00:14:16,670 --> 00:14:18,530 So often I go out and shoot, 296 00:14:18,530 --> 00:14:21,200 and sometimes, I don't get out of the car to take a picture 297 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,070 because I'm like, "It's not as good as the other, 298 00:14:24,070 --> 00:14:26,730 -it's not as good or better than my other pictures." -Yeah. 299 00:14:26,730 --> 00:14:28,570 And that kind of hinders you a little bit, 300 00:14:28,570 --> 00:14:29,930 that thinking, but then, 301 00:14:29,930 --> 00:14:31,370 and then I tell myself, it's like, you know, 302 00:14:31,370 --> 00:14:33,430 like, "No, dumbass, you need to get out of the fucking car. 303 00:14:33,430 --> 00:14:35,170 -[Jason] You gotta have fun, man. -Because... 304 00:14:35,170 --> 00:14:36,570 how'd you get all those fucking pictures, 305 00:14:36,570 --> 00:14:38,970 it's by getting out of the car and doing in the pictures 306 00:14:38,970 --> 00:14:40,030 and doing it. 307 00:14:40,030 --> 00:14:42,470 And like, that's like as good as it gets for me. 308 00:14:42,470 --> 00:14:45,970 This is like, a picture that I love right now. 309 00:14:45,970 --> 00:14:47,770 Like look at that glowing window 310 00:14:47,770 --> 00:14:50,400 and the people came into this other bedroom, 311 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,530 and the curtains are slid a little bit. 312 00:14:58,830 --> 00:15:01,970 So, we had house lights on. He turned it off. 313 00:15:01,970 --> 00:15:04,030 The neighbor's light turned off. 314 00:15:04,030 --> 00:15:06,400 I was like, "We'll pull the truck around, we'll light it." 315 00:15:08,830 --> 00:15:10,070 It's gonna be the one. 316 00:15:12,270 --> 00:15:13,600 [Todd] The thing about Jason and I, 317 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,430 I figured it out, like, why does he liked me, 318 00:15:16,430 --> 00:15:17,530 what's he interested in? 319 00:15:17,530 --> 00:15:18,570 Or why does he like my work? 320 00:15:18,570 --> 00:15:21,000 And then, he told me he was from Iowa. 321 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,170 And I was like, "Of course." 322 00:15:23,170 --> 00:15:25,500 He loves the landscapes that I make 323 00:15:25,500 --> 00:15:28,430 because Iowa is just like Ohio. 324 00:15:28,430 --> 00:15:32,770 There's something about the understanding of that space in the wintertime. 325 00:15:32,770 --> 00:15:36,130 And the openness that living in a place like that brings 326 00:15:36,130 --> 00:15:38,770 that is this one thing that brought us together 327 00:15:38,770 --> 00:15:40,600 which I think is really fascinating. 328 00:15:41,530 --> 00:15:43,030 [Todd laughs] 329 00:15:43,730 --> 00:15:46,800 [melancholic music playing] 330 00:15:59,630 --> 00:16:01,270 -[Jason] Thank you, sir. -[Todd] You're welcome. 331 00:16:03,330 --> 00:16:05,430 -[Jason] Wow! -[door creaks] 332 00:16:06,930 --> 00:16:07,930 [exclaims] Oh. 333 00:16:09,370 --> 00:16:10,370 Oh! 334 00:16:11,270 --> 00:16:13,600 That one slayed me. 335 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,130 That fucking slayed me. 336 00:16:15,130 --> 00:16:16,100 [Todd] I love that one. 337 00:16:16,100 --> 00:16:17,770 This one slayed me, that one slayed me. 338 00:16:17,770 --> 00:16:20,230 And the goddamn crosses in Iceland slayed me. 339 00:16:20,230 --> 00:16:21,500 Oh, yes. I have that one under here. 340 00:16:21,500 --> 00:16:23,230 -Oh! -Yes, yes. 341 00:16:23,230 --> 00:16:25,900 -[Jason] God damnit! -[Todd laughs] I'm glad you like that. 342 00:16:25,900 --> 00:16:27,370 [Jason exclaims] Oh! 343 00:16:27,370 --> 00:16:28,930 [Todd] I have been doing photography 344 00:16:28,930 --> 00:16:30,670 in some shape or form every day 345 00:16:30,670 --> 00:16:33,100 since I was like, you know, 18-years-old. 346 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,930 When I was a teenager, 347 00:16:36,930 --> 00:16:38,370 I used to race BMX. 348 00:16:39,170 --> 00:16:41,000 Where I grew up in Kent, Ohio, 349 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,900 we had dirt tracks 350 00:16:42,900 --> 00:16:45,470 that we would make in the woods. 351 00:16:45,470 --> 00:16:48,500 You know, just like any kid with an iPhone and a skateboard, 352 00:16:48,500 --> 00:16:50,170 you wanna record what you're doing 353 00:16:50,170 --> 00:16:51,370 and what your friends are doing. 354 00:16:51,370 --> 00:16:54,530 And so, I learned how to take pictures of my friends. 355 00:16:54,530 --> 00:16:57,430 Photography really actually sort of saved me 356 00:16:57,430 --> 00:17:00,630 because I was a classic Midwestern boy. 357 00:17:00,630 --> 00:17:04,100 I wasn't maybe so sure what I was doing in life. 358 00:17:05,130 --> 00:17:07,670 Once I started making pictures, 359 00:17:07,670 --> 00:17:10,230 and I started realizing how much I liked it. 360 00:17:10,230 --> 00:17:12,230 It changed the way I looked at everything. 361 00:17:22,970 --> 00:17:24,800 The worst thing for me is like, it's sunny 362 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,300 and everything's perfect, you know? 363 00:17:26,300 --> 00:17:29,200 I always liked the mood of the atmosphere and like-- 364 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:30,230 I was wondering to that, 365 00:17:30,230 --> 00:17:31,300 like, if you drive out some place, 366 00:17:31,300 --> 00:17:33,170 just kind of depressed 'cause you... 367 00:17:33,170 --> 00:17:35,170 Or you're just like heavily depressed because it was a beautiful day? 368 00:17:35,170 --> 00:17:36,330 Yeah. 369 00:17:36,330 --> 00:17:40,030 I have become really adept at looking at weather reports, 370 00:17:40,030 --> 00:17:44,100 and I secretly, like, harbor a desire to be an actual storm chaser. 371 00:17:44,100 --> 00:17:45,830 It's, like, out in Elko, Nevada, 372 00:17:45,830 --> 00:17:47,630 I heard that there's frozen fogs. 373 00:17:47,630 --> 00:17:49,570 I went out there for a few days. 374 00:17:49,570 --> 00:17:51,200 That's what I wanna talk about. 375 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,070 I was, like, you have to study weather patterns. 376 00:17:54,070 --> 00:17:55,970 I do. I totally know all about that. 377 00:17:55,970 --> 00:17:57,430 And I'm like all over that. 378 00:17:57,430 --> 00:17:58,670 [Jason] You're like, tornado watch. 379 00:17:58,670 --> 00:18:01,630 Bombing the tornadoes that's going to get you. 380 00:18:01,630 --> 00:18:04,370 I would love to be in a fucking tornado. 381 00:18:04,370 --> 00:18:06,400 The thing about Jason that's incredible 382 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:10,500 is he has a million ideas, and he's a mile a minute. 383 00:18:10,500 --> 00:18:13,100 And I'm actually kinda like that, too. 384 00:18:13,100 --> 00:18:15,000 I'm excited to see who inspires you 385 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:16,700 because after I got to you, 386 00:18:16,700 --> 00:18:18,770 I was really disappointed with the world. 387 00:18:18,770 --> 00:18:19,700 [Todd] Oh, really? 388 00:18:19,700 --> 00:18:21,470 Yeah. I'm like, "Now what?" 389 00:18:22,700 --> 00:18:24,470 [Todd] He came at a time when like, 390 00:18:24,470 --> 00:18:26,670 people weren't out about doing a bunch of things. 391 00:18:26,670 --> 00:18:29,470 And it was amazing to have this 392 00:18:29,470 --> 00:18:31,170 big lovable man, 393 00:18:31,170 --> 00:18:33,470 you know, kind of descend upon your world, 394 00:18:33,470 --> 00:18:35,800 and be in awe of every inch of it. 395 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,530 [Jason] I'll be your assistant, Mr. Hido. 396 00:18:37,530 --> 00:18:39,430 [Todd] Oh, yes, you can. Can you type fast? 397 00:18:39,430 --> 00:18:41,370 -Nope. -[Todd] Okay. We have a problem. 398 00:18:41,370 --> 00:18:43,030 -How do we get into this thing? -[Todd laughs] 399 00:18:43,030 --> 00:18:44,130 You just hit it, right? 400 00:18:44,130 --> 00:18:47,300 It's just nice to have somebody appreciate 401 00:18:47,300 --> 00:18:50,100 all the little things that you've created in your world. 402 00:18:53,500 --> 00:18:56,070 I love this one. Like this is when I started to realize, like, 403 00:18:56,070 --> 00:18:58,570 you know, these are about, like, relationships. 404 00:18:58,570 --> 00:19:00,530 Two people watching TV 405 00:19:00,530 --> 00:19:02,930 with the lights off at the same time in different rooms, 406 00:19:02,930 --> 00:19:04,700 and like what the fuck is... 407 00:19:04,700 --> 00:19:06,470 like, what's the relationship like, 408 00:19:06,470 --> 00:19:07,970 like, why aren't they together, you know? 409 00:19:07,970 --> 00:19:11,200 And I started to realize they were like, it's about what happens in the house, 410 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,200 you know, and it's about showing these things 411 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,630 without actually showing the people that are involved in it all. 412 00:19:19,470 --> 00:19:21,270 Looking at my books, with him, 413 00:19:21,270 --> 00:19:23,100 page by page, 414 00:19:23,100 --> 00:19:25,870 that's not something you get to do with many people. 415 00:19:25,870 --> 00:19:30,200 That's my dad. And my dad is fucking college graduation, you know, 416 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,100 holding up my brother and like, the empty keg. 417 00:19:33,100 --> 00:19:35,630 This one's crazy. It's like his diploma and my brother. 418 00:19:35,630 --> 00:19:38,430 It's like two accomplishments. 419 00:19:38,430 --> 00:19:40,730 And my dad was like, he was a football player. 420 00:19:40,730 --> 00:19:44,100 It was like, my dad grew up in like this crazy fucking household. 421 00:19:44,100 --> 00:19:46,930 It was so bad him and his brother would go sleep in the trunk 422 00:19:46,930 --> 00:19:49,100 wrapped in a fucking rug, 423 00:19:49,100 --> 00:19:51,070 you know, sometimes at night 424 00:19:51,070 --> 00:19:53,900 and and he grew up like, in this crazy household. 425 00:19:53,900 --> 00:19:56,200 So like, you know, I understand where he comes from, 426 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,570 but like he raised hell in our house, too, 427 00:19:58,570 --> 00:20:02,100 you know, and there's a lot of that in my work, you know. 428 00:20:02,100 --> 00:20:03,770 That's kind of where like, that's, like, the thing 429 00:20:03,770 --> 00:20:05,470 that like kind of fuels a lot of it. 430 00:20:08,730 --> 00:20:11,900 To personally sit and go through work with him, 431 00:20:11,900 --> 00:20:13,070 I'll always remember that 432 00:20:13,070 --> 00:20:15,930 it was really something that was like, "Wow. 433 00:20:15,930 --> 00:20:19,200 He has a real true appreciation of my work." 434 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,800 -And that was really special for me. -Wow! 435 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:24,800 Beautiful. 436 00:20:28,300 --> 00:20:29,730 After that time with Todd, 437 00:20:30,570 --> 00:20:32,500 I was just buzzing with creativity. 438 00:20:34,530 --> 00:20:36,570 My work took me all over the world. 439 00:20:36,570 --> 00:20:39,030 But Todd and I, we stayed in touch. 440 00:20:39,770 --> 00:20:41,200 It was just the beginning. 441 00:20:57,500 --> 00:20:58,870 What time is it? 442 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:00,900 [producer] 07:45. 443 00:21:02,070 --> 00:21:04,030 -07:45. -[producer] Yeah. 444 00:21:04,030 --> 00:21:05,700 I thought it was four in the morning. 445 00:21:08,300 --> 00:21:10,570 I just woke up at Todd's studio. 446 00:21:12,770 --> 00:21:14,370 I was talking about his paintings. 447 00:21:15,370 --> 00:21:16,470 [producer] You are in his paintings. 448 00:21:16,470 --> 00:21:17,730 [Jason] I am in his paintings. 449 00:21:21,330 --> 00:21:23,630 We got in super late last night, 450 00:21:23,630 --> 00:21:27,530 but I'm pumped because today we're going hunting with Todd. 451 00:21:27,530 --> 00:21:30,570 Taking out some new cameras to a place called Eames Ranch. 452 00:21:30,570 --> 00:21:34,230 [heavy metal music playing in radio] 453 00:21:44,330 --> 00:21:45,230 [door closes] 454 00:21:53,930 --> 00:21:57,130 [Todd] There's something about like things that are destroyed 455 00:21:57,130 --> 00:22:00,970 that aren't as interesting as things that are just left. 456 00:22:01,870 --> 00:22:03,170 This is the new me. 457 00:22:03,870 --> 00:22:05,500 The last time that we filmed, 458 00:22:05,500 --> 00:22:08,570 I just had a gastric bypass surgery. 459 00:22:08,570 --> 00:22:10,830 And so, I was, you know, the same person 460 00:22:10,830 --> 00:22:14,770 that I had been for probably most of my adult life, 461 00:22:14,770 --> 00:22:16,330 you know, overweight 462 00:22:17,370 --> 00:22:20,370 and not as healthy as I should be. 463 00:22:20,370 --> 00:22:23,900 My mom did it three years ago and it worked for her, 464 00:22:23,900 --> 00:22:25,570 you know, and I was like, 465 00:22:25,570 --> 00:22:27,330 Well, damn, my mom is my inspiration, 466 00:22:27,330 --> 00:22:29,900 like, I mean, if she did it, I can do this. 467 00:22:29,900 --> 00:22:32,200 This light is amazing, right? 468 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,700 It is the most important thing I have probably done in my adult life 469 00:22:35,700 --> 00:22:38,500 was to become healthy. 470 00:22:38,500 --> 00:22:41,400 I, like, got to restart my life 471 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,200 and it's really amazing that you guys have been able to, like, 472 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,300 the before and after part of that. 473 00:22:47,100 --> 00:22:49,170 [Jason] He shared so much with me. 474 00:22:49,170 --> 00:22:51,300 So, I wanted to buy him something special. 475 00:22:51,300 --> 00:22:54,370 Todd shoots medium format and I love Leica. 476 00:22:54,370 --> 00:22:57,200 Put it together, you got the Leica S3. 477 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,100 One of my favorite digital cameras. 478 00:22:59,100 --> 00:23:01,570 I don't change equipment very much 479 00:23:01,570 --> 00:23:04,670 because, you know, I've known that, like, 480 00:23:04,670 --> 00:23:06,170 how do you get really good at something 481 00:23:06,170 --> 00:23:09,200 is by having some things be constant 482 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,270 that you know and master. 483 00:23:11,270 --> 00:23:15,930 And then, you know, the things that change are what you bring into it. 484 00:23:15,930 --> 00:23:17,930 When somebody can introduce you to something 485 00:23:17,930 --> 00:23:19,270 and you grow from it, 486 00:23:19,270 --> 00:23:22,830 that's the best scenario for everybody. 487 00:23:22,830 --> 00:23:25,330 [Jason] To be able to be taught by your idol, 488 00:23:25,330 --> 00:23:26,300 your master, your teacher, 489 00:23:26,300 --> 00:23:28,500 and like there will be no one bigger, 490 00:23:28,500 --> 00:23:30,900 and to be able to buy him 491 00:23:30,900 --> 00:23:32,400 this medium format Leica camera, 492 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,770 which I believe is, like, I love Leica, right? 493 00:23:34,770 --> 00:23:36,600 So, I wanted to get him the medium format 494 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,500 which they just don't have that many of them. 495 00:23:38,500 --> 00:23:40,300 And they're expensive. 496 00:23:40,300 --> 00:23:43,030 What better thing to do is buy your idol this new paintbrush 497 00:23:43,030 --> 00:23:44,930 and go like, "Hey, let's go shoot this together. 498 00:23:45,570 --> 00:23:46,730 And I'm gonna learn from you." 499 00:23:47,470 --> 00:23:50,730 [melancholic music playing] 500 00:24:06,670 --> 00:24:08,300 [Jason] It's crazy 'cause there's this house 501 00:24:08,300 --> 00:24:10,470 that's preserved at the Eames Institute. 502 00:24:10,470 --> 00:24:12,470 And it looks like it's just out of a Hido painting. 503 00:24:16,670 --> 00:24:18,130 It's so surreal 504 00:24:18,130 --> 00:24:21,370 that you walk in, it's like this place is just held in time. 505 00:24:21,370 --> 00:24:23,130 You wish we wouldn't take these things away. 506 00:24:23,130 --> 00:24:25,170 I almost wanted to turn them into museum pieces 507 00:24:25,170 --> 00:24:27,470 and keep it the way it was and how history was. 508 00:24:30,030 --> 00:24:33,070 It's like, "Man, just not too far back in the 50s, 509 00:24:33,070 --> 00:24:34,670 out in Petaluma is pretty crazy. 510 00:24:34,670 --> 00:24:36,100 That neon green goes with this," 511 00:24:36,100 --> 00:24:37,770 and like you get to see 512 00:24:37,770 --> 00:24:40,830 what fashion was back then and how time has passed. 513 00:24:40,830 --> 00:24:42,070 And it never changed, 514 00:24:42,070 --> 00:24:45,130 and it had this dust of time on it. 515 00:24:51,230 --> 00:24:53,200 Once again, I was in one of his paintings 516 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,070 and it's phenomenal. 517 00:24:56,070 --> 00:24:58,970 I love the stuff, like, left behind like those hangers. 518 00:25:00,170 --> 00:25:01,600 In the closet. 519 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:02,970 -I know, right? -[Todd] Yeah. 520 00:25:06,300 --> 00:25:08,070 -[Jason exclaims] Ooh! -[Todd] Yeah, there we go. 521 00:25:08,070 --> 00:25:09,970 -Ooh! -Like, that's awesome. 522 00:25:09,970 --> 00:25:11,800 -[Jason] Yes! -[Todd] Beautiful, right? 523 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,930 -[Jason] Epic. -Thank you. 524 00:25:13,930 --> 00:25:15,530 [Jason] Never in a million years did I ever think 525 00:25:15,530 --> 00:25:18,300 I would be shooting side-by-side with Todd. 526 00:25:18,300 --> 00:25:20,800 I didn't even think I could be friends 527 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,330 on this level with him. 528 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,600 Wow. 529 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,370 [Todd] The thing I'm most attracted to is like the light. 530 00:25:27,370 --> 00:25:30,700 -I just kinda follow the light around a lot of times. -[Jason] Okay. 531 00:25:30,700 --> 00:25:33,970 [Todd] And I try to shoot into it and like it gets me started. 532 00:25:36,630 --> 00:25:38,600 So, like I don't wanna blow out those highlights, 533 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,230 but this is kind of about that color 534 00:25:40,230 --> 00:25:41,800 -and that gold. -[Jason] Yeah. 535 00:25:43,030 --> 00:25:44,170 [Todd] When you move your camera, like, 536 00:25:44,170 --> 00:25:46,270 -just an incremental ways... -[Jason] Yeah. 537 00:25:46,270 --> 00:25:48,930 [Todd] ...it really slows you down 538 00:25:48,930 --> 00:25:51,030 and shows you what it is. 539 00:25:51,830 --> 00:25:53,000 It's possible. 540 00:25:58,630 --> 00:26:00,830 [Jason] He's more Aloha than I am. 541 00:26:00,830 --> 00:26:04,130 You know, he is truly, wants people to know, 542 00:26:04,130 --> 00:26:06,670 there's no great mystery, it's just putting in the work 543 00:26:06,670 --> 00:26:08,630 and doing it and getting out there. 544 00:26:08,630 --> 00:26:10,870 And like he shares it. 545 00:26:10,870 --> 00:26:13,000 It's not like this, he takes one picture and like, 546 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,430 he really is still searching trying to master his craft. 547 00:26:16,430 --> 00:26:18,570 -[Jason] Fucking great, bro. -[Todd] Thank you. 548 00:26:20,030 --> 00:26:21,170 [Jason] There it is. 549 00:26:21,170 --> 00:26:23,100 [Todd] When you start to go into the room, 550 00:26:23,100 --> 00:26:24,970 you realize that, like, "Oh, there's a lot more 551 00:26:24,970 --> 00:26:26,930 than just one picture in this room." 552 00:26:26,930 --> 00:26:29,370 You know, and then a lot of times it's just like, 553 00:26:29,370 --> 00:26:32,000 getting, like, in just a different point of view. 554 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,200 You know, coming over here and then changing the light with those, 555 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,530 you know like with the blinds, 556 00:26:36,530 --> 00:26:38,530 like, there's, like, perfect light control. 557 00:26:53,330 --> 00:26:54,230 Bro. 558 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:55,870 Yes, sir. 559 00:26:57,570 --> 00:26:59,570 [Todd] There's something about the space, 560 00:26:59,570 --> 00:27:02,000 like a home and, like, the surfaces. 561 00:27:03,370 --> 00:27:05,130 The surfaces tell the story. 562 00:27:06,070 --> 00:27:08,500 My family had a carpet like this in our house, 563 00:27:08,500 --> 00:27:10,300 it was orange, you know? 564 00:27:10,300 --> 00:27:12,030 We had, like, curtains like that 565 00:27:12,030 --> 00:27:13,400 without light coming through, 566 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,900 and like I just remember that kind of stuff. 567 00:27:15,900 --> 00:27:17,400 There's something about like, 568 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,230 the spaces that you remember from your childhood are... 569 00:27:21,230 --> 00:27:23,730 they're just embedded in your memory, I think. 570 00:27:23,730 --> 00:27:25,200 And then, you just respond. 571 00:27:26,500 --> 00:27:28,330 -It's a time capsule, I mean. -Yeah. 572 00:27:28,330 --> 00:27:31,200 I've never had this much fun taking pictures in my life. 573 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,330 Really? That's just awesome. 574 00:27:32,330 --> 00:27:34,300 When you just walk in and you're like, "Oh my God," 575 00:27:34,300 --> 00:27:35,770 and you're absolutely right. 576 00:27:35,770 --> 00:27:37,400 It's just like, a little bit of an angle, little bit here, 577 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,030 -inch this way, inch that way. -Right. 578 00:27:39,030 --> 00:27:40,900 When we're sealing, shadows are changing, 579 00:27:40,900 --> 00:27:41,900 lights are changing. 580 00:27:41,900 --> 00:27:43,500 Like, right now, I'm having kind of an anxiety 581 00:27:43,500 --> 00:27:45,100 'cause we should be in another room shooting more. 582 00:27:45,100 --> 00:27:46,770 Because of the light. 583 00:27:46,770 --> 00:27:48,770 -But it's like... -Yeah, we got time. Right. 584 00:27:48,770 --> 00:27:50,070 ...amazing to be shot by you. 585 00:27:50,070 --> 00:27:51,370 I've never even seen... 586 00:27:51,370 --> 00:27:53,800 I know, you know, we're both from Midwest, 587 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,270 but I've never seen carpet like this, 588 00:27:55,270 --> 00:27:57,330 and I've never seen a chair like this. 589 00:27:57,330 --> 00:27:59,500 It's something about, like, this era 590 00:27:59,500 --> 00:28:02,270 that I think just really like, it just tells a story. 591 00:28:05,430 --> 00:28:08,770 How do you find that thing that you do 592 00:28:08,770 --> 00:28:12,070 that grooved in your making for yourself? 593 00:28:12,770 --> 00:28:14,770 That comes from time. 594 00:28:16,430 --> 00:28:19,500 You don't even know enough to even look for that when you start, 595 00:28:19,500 --> 00:28:21,700 but as you go on into it, 596 00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:23,400 you start to navigate your way 597 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,770 into making pictures that become 598 00:28:26,770 --> 00:28:28,570 more distinctly yours. 599 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,800 [Jason] I wanna train my eye like that, 600 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,330 and really understand the technology the way he does 601 00:28:37,330 --> 00:28:38,370 and the craft that he does. 602 00:28:38,370 --> 00:28:42,430 So, it was huge for me. [laughs] 603 00:28:46,170 --> 00:28:47,330 [Jason] Ooh! 604 00:28:47,330 --> 00:28:49,070 Holy fucking guy! 605 00:28:49,070 --> 00:28:51,070 -[Todd] That's pretty fucking nice, right? -[Jason] Jesus! 606 00:28:51,970 --> 00:28:52,900 [camera shutter clicks] 607 00:28:56,130 --> 00:28:57,600 [Jason] Bro. 608 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,830 Is this what heaven looks like? Like fucking... 609 00:28:59,830 --> 00:29:02,800 This is like, I'm... seriously. 610 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,170 Can we do this for the rest of our lives? 611 00:29:05,170 --> 00:29:07,000 -[Todd] Yeah, totally. Like, yeah. -Yeah! 612 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,770 -I'm down. -[Jason] I'm like, "This is it, bro." 613 00:29:09,770 --> 00:29:11,200 This is fun. 614 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,530 [Jason] I wear my heart on my sleeve. 615 00:29:12,530 --> 00:29:14,800 And it couldn't be more passion coming out this guy 616 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,970 'cause this is it, this is the top for me. 617 00:29:17,970 --> 00:29:21,830 It's really cool to have Todd and his wife, Marina, be like, 618 00:29:21,830 --> 00:29:24,300 "We're totally pumped because it's a little rejuvenation." 619 00:29:24,300 --> 00:29:26,970 They've been doing it for, I don't know, 30 years or something like that. 620 00:29:26,970 --> 00:29:28,830 It's just like a nice feeling to go, 621 00:29:28,830 --> 00:29:31,330 "Man, this guy is really, really stoked on me and what I've done." 622 00:29:32,630 --> 00:29:35,230 [Marina] There's a lot of overlap between him and J. 623 00:29:35,230 --> 00:29:37,030 They never stop learning. 624 00:29:37,030 --> 00:29:38,170 They never want to stop learning. 625 00:29:38,170 --> 00:29:40,800 They think everything is interesting and... 626 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,630 and that's exhilarating to stand next to and be part of. 627 00:29:43,630 --> 00:29:46,930 And I just feel so lucky to be along for the ride with him. 628 00:29:50,370 --> 00:29:51,770 [camera shutter clicks] 629 00:29:51,770 --> 00:29:54,700 [Todd] Jason and I have been communicating back and forth often. 630 00:29:54,700 --> 00:29:56,300 When he comes into your life, 631 00:29:56,300 --> 00:29:59,900 like he's in your life in his large way, 632 00:29:59,900 --> 00:30:01,800 and that's a wonderful thing. 633 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,830 He's so damn excited about things, 634 00:30:05,830 --> 00:30:07,470 which is awesome, you know? 635 00:30:07,470 --> 00:30:11,130 Like, it's, like, there's not many people in the world that have that exuberance. 636 00:30:11,930 --> 00:30:13,400 [laughing] 637 00:30:22,670 --> 00:30:26,670 I really appreciate, like, the willingness you guys have to learn 638 00:30:26,670 --> 00:30:28,370 and the questions that you're asking. 639 00:30:28,370 --> 00:30:30,970 You guys draw all this stuff out of me that... 640 00:30:30,970 --> 00:30:33,230 that reminds me of, like, me being a teacher, 641 00:30:33,230 --> 00:30:34,700 like, you know, 20 years ago. 642 00:30:34,700 --> 00:30:37,500 A lot of times, like, the students these days are not so engaged, 643 00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:39,700 but you guys are so hungry for info. 644 00:30:39,700 --> 00:30:41,430 -[Jason] Yeah. -And like, that's a gift, 645 00:30:41,430 --> 00:30:42,670 and I like it. 646 00:30:42,670 --> 00:30:45,100 -That's awesome. -[Jason] Those are amazing. 647 00:30:45,100 --> 00:30:46,100 [Todd] That's amazing. 648 00:30:46,100 --> 00:30:48,700 -And look at what happens with the fog. -Yep. 649 00:30:48,700 --> 00:30:51,470 [Todd] It makes the whole entire picture lighter 650 00:30:51,470 --> 00:30:54,130 because what happens is, it suspends itself 651 00:30:54,130 --> 00:30:55,670 -in the air... -[Jason] Yep. 652 00:30:55,670 --> 00:30:58,300 [Todd] ...and that catches the light that you don't even know is there. 653 00:30:58,300 --> 00:30:59,670 I love these ones with me here. 654 00:30:59,670 --> 00:31:01,130 -That's a really good-- -Isn't that great? 655 00:31:01,130 --> 00:31:03,000 It's fucking great, man. I love it. 656 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,170 Yeah. [exclaims] 657 00:31:05,170 --> 00:31:07,100 Like, look at that, you gotta send me those. 658 00:31:07,100 --> 00:31:08,130 [Jason] That's amazing. 659 00:31:08,130 --> 00:31:10,070 Like, who would ever think that we were twinsies. 660 00:31:10,070 --> 00:31:11,400 [both laugh] 661 00:31:11,970 --> 00:31:13,530 [Todd] So, J. 662 00:31:13,530 --> 00:31:16,930 I know you don't really usually get hand me downs... 663 00:31:16,930 --> 00:31:18,900 I would love your hand me downs, are you kidding me? 664 00:31:18,900 --> 00:31:20,930 -I'm gonna hand this down to you. -[Jason] Oh, wow! 665 00:31:20,930 --> 00:31:23,000 And this is like your rig. 666 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,730 And this thing is like, fucking monster. 667 00:31:25,730 --> 00:31:27,600 [Jason] That thing is ma... 668 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,570 It's weird because people get excited when they see me, 669 00:31:29,570 --> 00:31:32,370 and they're like, "Oh, sign your trident and sign this, and..." 670 00:31:32,370 --> 00:31:33,900 you know, it's like, "Oh, yeah, of course." 671 00:31:33,900 --> 00:31:35,970 And it's beautiful for kids and... 672 00:31:36,670 --> 00:31:37,930 and I understand it. 673 00:31:37,930 --> 00:31:41,600 Like, it's literally his tripod. 674 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,170 It's crazy, it's just the most fan weird thing that I have. 675 00:31:44,170 --> 00:31:46,900 But it means the world to me that he cared enough 676 00:31:46,900 --> 00:31:48,930 and can see that I was passionate enough 677 00:31:48,930 --> 00:31:50,370 to deserve something like that. 678 00:31:50,370 --> 00:31:53,270 -You're welcome. -If they made a tripod, that's definitely my tripod. 679 00:31:53,270 --> 00:31:54,730 It's fucking meant for you, right? 680 00:31:54,730 --> 00:31:56,170 -I love it. -I love it, too. 681 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,230 From you, it means everything. 682 00:31:58,230 --> 00:31:59,230 Thank you, thank you. 683 00:31:59,230 --> 00:32:02,100 I'm so happy that you like it, so. 684 00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:05,000 [Jason] I never had the opportunity to see Todd's work in a museum. 685 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,270 I've only experienced it through books. 686 00:32:07,270 --> 00:32:10,900 So, it was a pretty big honor to go see it for the first time with him. 687 00:32:10,900 --> 00:32:14,170 This is, I would say one of the best photography museums 688 00:32:14,170 --> 00:32:15,600 in the entire world. 689 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,730 [Todd] Yep, and that's the Bay Bridge. 690 00:32:21,070 --> 00:32:24,330 When I was a kid, I don't think I've ever been to a museum. 691 00:32:24,330 --> 00:32:27,130 The culture was not like my parents' cup of tea, 692 00:32:27,130 --> 00:32:28,830 you know, because they were busy working. 693 00:32:28,830 --> 00:32:31,070 My mom was a cashier at a drug store 694 00:32:31,070 --> 00:32:32,070 and my dad was a plumber, 695 00:32:32,070 --> 00:32:34,170 and they worked all the time. 696 00:32:34,170 --> 00:32:36,600 And so, they didn't have time to know about that stuff. 697 00:32:37,670 --> 00:32:38,600 Ow! 698 00:32:40,430 --> 00:32:42,000 -I'll do it. -Yeah. 699 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,470 Okay, all right. 700 00:32:43,470 --> 00:32:47,070 So, this is the first time I'm also seeing this 701 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,130 work framed, 702 00:32:49,130 --> 00:32:51,070 which is something that was made... 703 00:32:52,900 --> 00:32:53,870 for... 704 00:32:53,870 --> 00:32:56,670 This is my body of work, bright black world. 705 00:32:56,670 --> 00:33:00,830 It's not been seen in this context like this. 706 00:33:00,830 --> 00:33:03,630 And the pandemic slowed everything down. 707 00:33:03,630 --> 00:33:05,700 And so, this was on hold, 708 00:33:05,700 --> 00:33:08,930 and I haven't even seen, like, these frames, 709 00:33:08,930 --> 00:33:11,670 -which I'm blown away by. -[exclaims] Oh! 710 00:33:11,670 --> 00:33:13,800 -[Todd] Right? Thank you, man. -[Jason] These are amazing. 711 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:14,700 [Todd] Thank you. 712 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,730 I never ever would have imagined 713 00:33:22,730 --> 00:33:26,370 that my work would be collected by a museum. 714 00:33:26,370 --> 00:33:29,400 That somebody thinks enough of what you do 715 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,730 that they wanna save it, 716 00:33:30,730 --> 00:33:32,700 and show it to somebody else, 717 00:33:32,700 --> 00:33:35,300 like, I mean, that's about as good as it gets in life. 718 00:33:50,370 --> 00:33:52,000 [Jason] Working with Todd inspired me to learn 719 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,330 more about the tools we use to make pictures. 720 00:33:55,230 --> 00:33:57,300 It showed me how much I didn't know 721 00:33:57,300 --> 00:33:58,830 and how much I wanted to know. 722 00:34:01,230 --> 00:34:04,530 This looks like old Macintosh. Argh! 723 00:34:04,530 --> 00:34:06,970 Why isn't my facetime working? 724 00:34:06,970 --> 00:34:09,370 Nineteen-seventy-seven, Ralph has been here. 725 00:34:09,930 --> 00:34:11,500 You made all my lenses, bro. 726 00:34:11,500 --> 00:34:12,830 [all laughing] 727 00:34:12,830 --> 00:34:14,330 You son of a bitch! 728 00:34:15,500 --> 00:34:18,700 To have an invitation to be able to go to like, 729 00:34:18,700 --> 00:34:20,530 it was a once in a lifetime opportunity. 730 00:34:23,030 --> 00:34:23,930 Bro. 731 00:34:25,330 --> 00:34:26,730 -[applauds] -[giggling] 732 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,530 Yay! Keep it up! 733 00:34:29,530 --> 00:34:32,730 So, I had this chance to pick up some historic cameras. 734 00:34:32,730 --> 00:34:36,200 So, of course, I invited Todd to take a look at what I got. 735 00:34:36,930 --> 00:34:38,670 -Ta-da! -[Todd] Wow! 736 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,270 Wow! 737 00:34:40,270 --> 00:34:41,630 [Jason] Look what I got today. 738 00:34:41,630 --> 00:34:43,330 -It's incredible. -[Jason exclaims] Whoo! 739 00:34:45,030 --> 00:34:48,400 Being on this journey with Todd has introduced me to other artists. 740 00:34:50,570 --> 00:34:52,570 Apocalypse Now is my favorite movie 741 00:34:52,570 --> 00:34:54,130 in the world. 742 00:34:54,130 --> 00:34:56,270 This came out the year I was born. 743 00:34:56,870 --> 00:34:59,570 Oh, my God, bro. Look at that. 744 00:35:00,370 --> 00:35:02,270 It's all the photos 745 00:35:02,270 --> 00:35:04,900 that the set photographer took 746 00:35:04,900 --> 00:35:07,070 of ten of 30, look at that. 747 00:35:07,070 --> 00:35:08,100 [Todd] Wow! 748 00:35:08,100 --> 00:35:11,100 [Jason] These are all the photos he took on set. 749 00:35:11,100 --> 00:35:12,830 Apocalypse Now. 750 00:35:12,830 --> 00:35:15,130 Hopper was wearing these, bro! 751 00:35:15,130 --> 00:35:18,700 These are his. This is a fucking set, man. 752 00:35:18,700 --> 00:35:20,570 -[Todd] Wow. -This is the bag. 753 00:35:25,330 --> 00:35:28,770 [Todd] I can't believe you have... That's a Walker Evans' camera. 754 00:35:28,770 --> 00:35:30,800 That's incredible. 755 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,830 [Jason] Walker Evans was a depression era photographer. 756 00:35:33,830 --> 00:35:35,700 He took pictures of the mundane 757 00:35:35,700 --> 00:35:37,700 and made the ordinary into art. 758 00:35:37,700 --> 00:35:39,570 -I'm blown away. -[Todd] I am, too. 759 00:35:39,570 --> 00:35:41,930 I remember learning about this in the history of photography, 760 00:35:41,930 --> 00:35:44,370 like, Walker Evans, many are called, 761 00:35:44,370 --> 00:35:47,270 and it's all these expanded photographs 762 00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:50,370 of people on the subway. 763 00:35:50,370 --> 00:35:53,100 That in order to achieve this level of like, 764 00:35:53,100 --> 00:35:54,730 not being aware of the camera, 765 00:35:54,730 --> 00:35:56,570 like what Walker Evans did was, 766 00:35:56,570 --> 00:35:59,900 you know, he blacked out the camera, 767 00:35:59,900 --> 00:36:01,900 and he painted the camera black, 768 00:36:01,900 --> 00:36:03,700 and he put it in his coat, 769 00:36:03,700 --> 00:36:06,630 and he had a little, like, a cable release 770 00:36:06,630 --> 00:36:08,300 but not a little one, a long one 771 00:36:08,300 --> 00:36:09,900 that was up his sleeve. 772 00:36:09,900 --> 00:36:11,470 And he can take the photographs. 773 00:36:11,470 --> 00:36:12,930 And that's why, 774 00:36:12,930 --> 00:36:15,270 that's how these people, these pictures are so... 775 00:36:15,270 --> 00:36:17,770 -[Andrew] Inconspicuous? -Inconspicuous, exactly. 776 00:36:17,770 --> 00:36:20,430 -That's exactly what they always were like that. -[Jason] Amazing. 777 00:36:20,430 --> 00:36:22,600 I mean, it's amazing and I mean, 778 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,670 I can't believe this was Walker Evans' camera. 779 00:36:25,670 --> 00:36:28,430 It's like incredible. 780 00:36:28,430 --> 00:36:31,000 I'm very, very interested in the history of photography. 781 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:35,270 You know, I live in a house that has 7,000 books of photographs. 782 00:36:35,270 --> 00:36:38,470 That's the number one thing that you can do 783 00:36:38,470 --> 00:36:41,200 to just sort of advance yourself visually 784 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,400 is just to take in a lot of things. 785 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,100 I never understood people that were afraid of being influenced. 786 00:36:47,100 --> 00:36:48,470 That's what you want. 787 00:36:49,730 --> 00:36:52,070 This is the first release, 788 00:36:52,070 --> 00:36:54,100 the first commercial like it. 789 00:36:54,100 --> 00:36:55,970 -I mean, it's a piece of history. -Yeah. 790 00:36:55,970 --> 00:36:57,670 Like the Walker Evans' camera, 791 00:36:57,670 --> 00:37:02,470 these inventions change the way we see the world 792 00:37:02,470 --> 00:37:04,770 because they were able to travel the world 793 00:37:04,770 --> 00:37:08,400 without having to carry a wooden camera and glass plates. 794 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,900 When we speak about these kinds of things, 795 00:37:15,570 --> 00:37:16,670 we are not the owners. 796 00:37:16,670 --> 00:37:20,630 We are only the people that transport them in time 797 00:37:20,630 --> 00:37:23,770 for someone else to come after us. 798 00:37:23,770 --> 00:37:25,530 And I think this is the secret of life. 799 00:37:25,530 --> 00:37:29,230 Kind of a lot of other things that people love to love. 800 00:37:31,500 --> 00:37:33,600 -We transport them. -We transport them. 801 00:37:41,900 --> 00:37:43,030 [camera shutter clicks] 802 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,470 First off, welcome to my home. 803 00:38:12,470 --> 00:38:13,730 Thank you. 804 00:38:13,730 --> 00:38:15,030 That's my dream come true to have, like, 805 00:38:15,030 --> 00:38:17,730 -a little blues shack with... -[Todd exclaims] Oh-ho! 806 00:38:17,730 --> 00:38:19,370 -Nat's here. -This gentleman. 807 00:38:19,370 --> 00:38:20,700 [Jason] This gentleman is here. 808 00:38:20,700 --> 00:38:22,870 Well, last time we were together, 809 00:38:22,870 --> 00:38:24,170 we were in Germany. 810 00:38:24,700 --> 00:38:25,730 -Right? -Yeah. 811 00:38:25,730 --> 00:38:27,900 I got the Apoc... Come over here. 812 00:38:27,900 --> 00:38:30,200 I got the Apocalypse Now. 813 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,400 Do you even know where the fuck these cameras are? 814 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,570 I said does he even know where the fuck these cameras are? 815 00:38:35,570 --> 00:38:37,430 [Todd] He knew because I told him. 816 00:38:37,430 --> 00:38:39,000 Seriously, I'm like, "What the fuck?" 817 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,170 I know they are, but I didn't know Robert Walker. 818 00:38:42,170 --> 00:38:43,930 -No, no, Walker Evans. -Walker Evans. 819 00:38:43,930 --> 00:38:48,330 -Yeah. -[all laughing] 820 00:38:48,330 --> 00:38:50,700 -Robert Walker is nobody. -Yeah, yeah. 821 00:38:50,700 --> 00:38:52,270 Robert Johnson and Johnny Walker, 822 00:38:52,270 --> 00:38:53,700 -they're buddies. -Yeah. 823 00:38:53,700 --> 00:38:55,870 -Walker Evans, like I was saying. -Yeah. 824 00:38:55,870 --> 00:38:56,900 [laughing] 825 00:38:56,900 --> 00:38:58,970 So, this is his camera. 826 00:38:59,870 --> 00:39:01,030 [Jeremiah] It's his camera? 827 00:39:01,030 --> 00:39:03,670 [Todd] It's the exact camera that Walker Evans used. 828 00:39:03,670 --> 00:39:06,270 [Jason] And I wanted to open it up, but it's like, "Dude." 829 00:39:06,270 --> 00:39:07,970 [Todd] He's a huge inspiration of mine. 830 00:39:07,970 --> 00:39:10,270 Like, Walker Evans is one of my favorite photographers. 831 00:39:10,270 --> 00:39:12,670 These cameras, machines that we, like, use... 832 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,900 Like these bikes that you all make, 833 00:39:15,900 --> 00:39:17,770 all these things have a history to them. 834 00:39:17,770 --> 00:39:20,500 And it's really important that lineage I think is curious 835 00:39:20,500 --> 00:39:22,470 and it means a lot to me. 836 00:39:22,470 --> 00:39:24,770 -[Jason] Finally. -[Todd] Wow. 837 00:39:24,770 --> 00:39:27,800 I got something that Todd Hido wants. 838 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,130 [all laughing] 839 00:39:29,130 --> 00:39:32,430 He doesn't want old rusty cars. 840 00:39:32,430 --> 00:39:34,670 He doesn't want dirty clothes. 841 00:39:34,670 --> 00:39:37,130 He doesn't want Harley's, he doesn't want guitars. 842 00:39:37,130 --> 00:39:39,630 He wants cameras, I'm like, "What am I gonna do?" 843 00:39:39,630 --> 00:39:43,000 And he's one of my best bro and my idol. 844 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,230 So, I'm like, "I'm gonna buy his fucking camera for him." 845 00:39:48,230 --> 00:39:50,700 -Yeah. -And that I did not know when you were bidding on it. 846 00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:53,100 -And I'm gonna buy his fucking camera. -I did not know that. 847 00:39:53,100 --> 00:39:55,700 I was not encouraging any... 848 00:39:55,700 --> 00:39:56,970 I was just telling him, how... 849 00:39:56,970 --> 00:39:58,230 -He is excited. -I was just like, 850 00:39:58,230 --> 00:39:59,400 -literally-- -I'm serious, brother. 851 00:40:00,430 --> 00:40:02,430 [exclaims] Oh, God! 852 00:40:02,430 --> 00:40:03,670 ["Hobo Wine Blues" by Nat Myers playing] 853 00:40:03,670 --> 00:40:06,230 ♪ My darling is kind And sweet ♪ 854 00:40:06,230 --> 00:40:09,430 ♪ Whenever they tasting Like shaking sugary ♪ 855 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:16,530 ♪ My darling Sipping nitroglycerine ♪ 856 00:40:16,530 --> 00:40:19,870 ♪ Asking for water Give me gasoline ♪ 857 00:40:21,970 --> 00:40:24,230 ♪ My darling show you ♪ 858 00:40:24,230 --> 00:40:27,200 ♪ Something you never Seen before ♪ 859 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,870 ♪ Daddy gonna Walk in the room ♪ 860 00:40:28,870 --> 00:40:30,530 ♪ Like a dog on all fours ♪ 861 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,700 [Jason] So, this kind of came to fruition because 862 00:40:42,700 --> 00:40:44,930 I travel with all of Todd's paintings, 863 00:40:44,930 --> 00:40:47,230 and put them in my houses around the world. 864 00:40:47,230 --> 00:40:49,470 I just like wanna travel with my favorite stuff. 865 00:40:49,470 --> 00:40:50,800 Remind of my kids at home. 866 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,470 We're trying to make it a little bit more portable and baggable. 867 00:40:53,470 --> 00:40:55,830 So, we thought about, we wanna make something together. 868 00:40:55,830 --> 00:40:58,430 [Todd] And this is the portfolio box 869 00:40:58,430 --> 00:41:01,170 that my agent used in New York City 870 00:41:01,170 --> 00:41:02,730 for like, 20 years. 871 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:04,930 And of course, this is designed, 872 00:41:04,930 --> 00:41:06,470 -so you can fuck it up a little bit. -[Jason] Yeah. 873 00:41:06,470 --> 00:41:07,730 [Todd] This is like library cloth. 874 00:41:07,730 --> 00:41:10,400 This is deadstock library cloth. 875 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,100 Marina designed this. 876 00:41:12,100 --> 00:41:13,070 [Jason] It's amazing. 877 00:41:13,070 --> 00:41:15,400 [gasps] Oh, shit, dude! 878 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,170 It's... [laughs] 879 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,130 Jeremiah. 880 00:41:19,130 --> 00:41:22,330 Look at this. I'm blasting through on the rough. 881 00:41:22,330 --> 00:41:25,470 I'm in a fucking Hido painting, man! 882 00:41:25,470 --> 00:41:27,170 -[Todd] You are in it. -[Jason exclaims] Ah! 883 00:41:27,770 --> 00:41:30,170 That is so cool, man. 884 00:41:31,430 --> 00:41:32,600 Wow. 885 00:41:34,630 --> 00:41:36,900 -Dude. -[Todd] I made a rubber stamp. 886 00:41:36,900 --> 00:41:38,670 And this collection will grow. 887 00:41:38,670 --> 00:41:40,000 Beautiful. 888 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,800 And some of these are pictures that are new 889 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,170 that I haven't, like, I haven't even shared with anybody, 890 00:41:44,170 --> 00:41:46,570 -I love this one. -It's amazing. 891 00:41:46,570 --> 00:41:48,970 It was... Oh, bro. 892 00:41:48,970 --> 00:41:51,230 [Todd] Like, so this is my Leica. 893 00:41:51,230 --> 00:41:52,930 -The S3 that you helped me. -[Jason] Yep. 894 00:41:52,930 --> 00:41:54,900 [Todd] That clarity, man. 895 00:41:54,900 --> 00:41:58,030 -[Jason] That's the S3? -[Todd] Yeah, yeah, yeah. 896 00:41:58,030 --> 00:42:01,230 I mean, that camera, 897 00:42:01,230 --> 00:42:03,430 and that fill, too, those are the ones-- 898 00:42:03,430 --> 00:42:05,730 -[Jason] What the hell? -[Todd] I got rid of all the cameras. 899 00:42:08,300 --> 00:42:09,200 [Jason] Wow. 900 00:42:13,770 --> 00:42:15,530 We've been there, bro. 901 00:42:15,530 --> 00:42:17,570 -[Todd] And look at the colors. -[Jason] It's so good. 902 00:42:17,570 --> 00:42:19,630 -[exclaims] Oh! -[Todd] All right. 903 00:42:19,630 --> 00:42:21,370 [Jason] Oh, I love this one so much. 904 00:42:22,270 --> 00:42:24,500 Fuck! I'm sorry, beep. 905 00:42:24,500 --> 00:42:27,500 Look at that. Look at that. 906 00:42:28,770 --> 00:42:31,070 Oh, my God. It's so good. 907 00:42:31,070 --> 00:42:33,770 -Thank you. And this is that camera. -Ah! 908 00:42:33,770 --> 00:42:35,230 -Ah. -You gave me. 909 00:42:35,230 --> 00:42:38,930 I love that, like, you asked me to make something for you. 910 00:42:38,930 --> 00:42:40,800 [Jason] It's like everything keeps evolving, going like, 911 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,770 "Well, this will be our shots." 912 00:42:42,770 --> 00:42:45,030 -Right. -From our time together. 913 00:42:45,030 --> 00:42:47,230 -Todd's freaking diary, man... -Yeah. 914 00:42:47,230 --> 00:42:48,970 -...of, like, what we're gonna do. -So cool. 915 00:42:48,970 --> 00:42:51,600 And I'm so up for all this 916 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:52,630 and I'm so excited 917 00:42:52,630 --> 00:42:54,730 -and it makes me so happy. -[Jason exclaims] Ah! 918 00:42:55,430 --> 00:42:57,170 -I love you. -I love you, man. 919 00:42:57,170 --> 00:42:59,570 -Oh, God. Thank you so much, J. -[Jason] Thank you. 920 00:43:03,730 --> 00:43:07,330 [melancholic music playing] 921 00:43:07,330 --> 00:43:09,300 [Todd] Being an artist, you give up a lot. 922 00:43:09,300 --> 00:43:10,530 It's not for everybody. 923 00:43:11,630 --> 00:43:13,470 A young woman wrote on the internet, 924 00:43:13,470 --> 00:43:16,270 "Todd Hido was making pictures of my memories, 925 00:43:16,270 --> 00:43:17,530 but we've never met." 926 00:43:17,530 --> 00:43:19,200 That's it, right there. 927 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:20,330 That is what it is. 928 00:43:20,330 --> 00:43:22,930 That's what you hope for. 929 00:43:22,930 --> 00:43:25,830 That somebody that is able to, like, understand you 930 00:43:25,830 --> 00:43:28,500 or have a better understanding of another person 931 00:43:28,500 --> 00:43:30,470 through an image. 932 00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:34,530 That's the kind of thing that you you trade for a nine-to-five job. 933 00:43:36,170 --> 00:43:39,030 I wouldn't trade all the uncertainty that I've had 934 00:43:39,730 --> 00:43:41,070 for anything. 935 00:43:45,470 --> 00:43:48,970 [Jason] In life, I think each, one door opens, another opens, another opens and another. 936 00:43:48,970 --> 00:43:50,330 And if you really truly put it out there, 937 00:43:50,330 --> 00:43:52,170 you're gonna meet those people 938 00:43:52,170 --> 00:43:54,430 that are your inspirations 939 00:43:54,430 --> 00:43:56,670 that are gonna inspire you even further. 940 00:43:56,670 --> 00:43:58,700 And if you do it right, you're gonna inspire them. 941 00:44:20,230 --> 00:44:21,430 And know your mark and know your lines, bro. 942 00:44:21,430 --> 00:44:24,000 [Todd] Okay, that's right. I gotta learn. Okay. 943 00:44:27,370 --> 00:44:29,200 [Jason] Ready? And action. 944 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:43,700 [Todd] That was the best one we got. 945 00:44:43,700 --> 00:44:45,030 [Jason] I know, but... 946 00:44:46,230 --> 00:44:48,200 Gotta get a fucking pro actor in there, man. 947 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:49,430 Somebody who knows something.