1 00:00:11,512 --> 00:00:12,888 Wait, check this out. 2 00:00:17,351 --> 00:00:18,560 Alright. 3 00:00:19,728 --> 00:00:21,021 Gentlemen. 4 00:00:21,522 --> 00:00:22,648 Thank you. 5 00:00:26,318 --> 00:00:29,863 This is day five. I met them on Thursday. 6 00:00:30,447 --> 00:00:32,031 We had the best night, didn't we? 7 00:00:32,115 --> 00:00:33,492 -We had a good time. -You guys, on Thursday? 8 00:00:33,575 --> 00:00:35,160 We got to watch them play last night. 9 00:00:35,244 --> 00:00:37,621 And right now we're going to Atlantic Records. 10 00:00:37,704 --> 00:00:40,541 The CEO-- 20 years, the CEO. 11 00:00:40,624 --> 00:00:43,627 We're going to Atlantic Records right now and see if we can get 'em a record deal. 12 00:00:44,044 --> 00:00:45,546 It's crazy. 13 00:00:45,879 --> 00:00:47,089 You gotta try. 14 00:01:52,571 --> 00:01:54,781 Never in a million years did I think I would be... 15 00:01:55,782 --> 00:01:59,953 in a desert doing On the Roam, but, I mean, hey, it's On the Roam. 16 00:02:00,037 --> 00:02:05,083 I'm about three hours outside of Abu Dhabi finishing up Dune. 17 00:02:05,167 --> 00:02:06,710 And we're gonna talk about... 18 00:02:07,502 --> 00:02:10,172 a little band called The Bobby Lees. Hit it. 19 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,694 Today in the studio, we have The Bobby Lees 20 00:02:32,778 --> 00:02:34,404 all the way from Woodstock, New York. 21 00:02:34,488 --> 00:02:36,948 We're gonna have a live set with The Bobby Lees. 22 00:02:37,031 --> 00:02:38,450 This is a record by a band called 23 00:02:38,533 --> 00:02:39,743 The Bobby Lees. 24 00:02:39,826 --> 00:02:41,078 It's called Skin Suit. 25 00:02:41,161 --> 00:02:42,329 It's really, really interesting. 26 00:02:42,412 --> 00:02:44,039 How about The Bobby Lees? 27 00:02:44,122 --> 00:02:46,291 They're currently on tour in the US. 28 00:02:46,375 --> 00:02:49,086 They're coming to the UK at the end of June. 29 00:02:49,168 --> 00:02:50,545 They're gonna play Europe. 30 00:02:50,629 --> 00:02:52,506 And Debbie Harry says, 31 00:02:52,589 --> 00:02:57,969 "Check out The Bobby Lees. The future is minimal proto slash punk." 32 00:02:58,053 --> 00:03:01,515 So here are The Bobby Lees with "Hollywood Junkyard." 33 00:03:04,976 --> 00:03:06,478 The truth of it is, I love music, 34 00:03:06,561 --> 00:03:09,231 and so I found The Bobby Lees on Instagram. 35 00:03:09,314 --> 00:03:12,401 I thought they were unbelievable. I listened to their music 36 00:03:12,484 --> 00:03:14,277 and I just saw them touring around the world, 37 00:03:14,361 --> 00:03:17,155 and I would just kinda miss them everywhere I went. 38 00:03:32,754 --> 00:03:34,131 My name is Sam. 39 00:03:34,214 --> 00:03:36,216 I sing in a band called The Bobby Lees. 40 00:03:36,299 --> 00:03:40,011 I'm Nick Casa. I play lead guitar for The Bobby Lees. 41 00:03:40,095 --> 00:03:42,264 My name is Kendall Wind. I play bass. 42 00:03:42,347 --> 00:03:47,394 Macky Bowman, and I play drums for The Bobby Lees. 43 00:03:48,978 --> 00:03:51,231 I didn't know much about the music industry, 44 00:03:51,314 --> 00:03:54,025 so I was a little naive to everything. 45 00:03:54,109 --> 00:03:55,902 You just see them and you're like, "Oh, everything's fine. 46 00:03:55,986 --> 00:03:57,529 They're doing great. They're, they're touring." 47 00:03:57,612 --> 00:03:58,780 They're constantly, you know, 48 00:03:58,864 --> 00:04:00,198 obviously they're doing well for themselves. 49 00:04:00,282 --> 00:04:01,700 And then it's just like, "We can't do this anymore." 50 00:04:01,783 --> 00:04:03,285 We met what, was it like three days ago? 51 00:04:03,368 --> 00:04:05,662 -I invited you to the Bowery. -Yes. 52 00:04:05,746 --> 00:04:09,666 We walked in, you were, like, crouched over, shirtless, 53 00:04:09,750 --> 00:04:11,752 kinda just, like, just, like, you obviously, like, 54 00:04:11,835 --> 00:04:14,671 just got into your hotel room and you're, like, "Come up." 55 00:04:14,755 --> 00:04:16,630 And, like, "I didn't expect you so soon." 56 00:04:16,714 --> 00:04:19,634 And then you just came over and gave us, like, the biggest warm hug. 57 00:04:19,718 --> 00:04:22,220 Yeah. It felt like actually a family feel. 58 00:04:22,304 --> 00:04:25,891 One of the top five, if not top three hugs of all time. 59 00:04:27,142 --> 00:04:30,729 So, the whole thing was like, they're gonna finish, they were done. 60 00:04:30,812 --> 00:04:32,856 Like, they've been a band for seven years. 61 00:04:32,939 --> 00:04:36,526 And then I saw it on Instagram, and I've been following them 62 00:04:36,610 --> 00:04:38,361 and I'm like, "These guys are fuckin' amazing." 63 00:04:38,445 --> 00:04:39,988 And you see them, you just see everything 64 00:04:40,071 --> 00:04:43,116 and that's all you get to see is positive, positive, positive. 65 00:04:44,034 --> 00:04:46,077 And then it came a time where they put out this thing, 66 00:04:46,161 --> 00:04:47,454 which I'll read in a little bit, 67 00:04:47,537 --> 00:04:49,206 but they put out this little, what do you call it? 68 00:04:49,289 --> 00:04:50,749 -Just a... -Statement? 69 00:04:50,832 --> 00:04:52,082 A statement, yeah. 70 00:04:52,167 --> 00:04:54,544 My band posted something 71 00:04:54,628 --> 00:04:56,880 letting our people that follow us know 72 00:04:56,963 --> 00:04:59,716 why we were gonna be taking a break 73 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,885 and a break that we weren't sure how long. 74 00:05:01,968 --> 00:05:04,387 It could be like a permanent break or... 75 00:05:29,788 --> 00:05:31,289 They've been doing it for so long 76 00:05:31,373 --> 00:05:32,874 that it's just, they're not making money. 77 00:05:32,957 --> 00:05:35,627 It's just, they tour, and it's just, it's really, really challenging. 78 00:05:35,710 --> 00:05:39,297 And I was like, "Fuck, they're gonna end." And I'm like, "No, no, no, no, no!" 79 00:05:39,381 --> 00:05:43,218 So I just, I like sent a-- I sent a DM to them. 80 00:05:43,301 --> 00:05:45,095 I was like, "Hey, can I just talk to you?" 81 00:05:45,178 --> 00:05:46,513 I had a feeling that some-- 82 00:05:46,596 --> 00:05:48,306 Usually when you put out that kinda energy, 83 00:05:48,390 --> 00:05:49,724 like, something returns. 84 00:05:49,808 --> 00:05:51,935 And I had a feeling someone was gonna reach out. 85 00:05:52,018 --> 00:05:54,521 I did not think it was gonna be Jason Momoa. 86 00:05:55,438 --> 00:05:57,023 But, you know, I was like, 87 00:05:57,107 --> 00:06:01,695 "Here's a kind person who likes our music and wants to help." 88 00:06:01,778 --> 00:06:03,280 Gonna help them make the record 89 00:06:03,363 --> 00:06:06,283 and then we're gonna go fuckin' kick down some doors... 90 00:06:07,075 --> 00:06:08,326 get 'em a record deal. 91 00:06:08,577 --> 00:06:10,036 -Just gotta put it out there. -Yeah. 92 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:11,413 And I'm like, "Well, I'm gonna give it my best try," 93 00:06:11,496 --> 00:06:14,291 'cause I just think it's the right thing to do. 94 00:06:17,586 --> 00:06:20,088 I've always been the one in the band that's 95 00:06:21,214 --> 00:06:23,425 booking the shows, like, pushing, just-- 96 00:06:23,508 --> 00:06:25,010 We wanna work with this producer. 97 00:06:25,093 --> 00:06:27,762 I'm gonna send him 20 emails until he finally reaches back. 98 00:06:29,764 --> 00:06:31,766 I'd always, like, wanted to play with people, 99 00:06:31,850 --> 00:06:33,310 but I was too scared. 100 00:06:33,393 --> 00:06:34,686 I just, I was-- 101 00:06:34,769 --> 00:06:36,605 I don't know, I was freaked out, too scared. 102 00:06:36,688 --> 00:06:38,189 I thought my ideas weren't good. 103 00:06:40,859 --> 00:06:44,070 And so it was kinda like chipping away at that fear 104 00:06:44,154 --> 00:06:45,989 and like, just keep-- I kept doing it. 105 00:06:46,531 --> 00:06:50,118 I also read a book called The Artist's Way by Julia Cameron, 106 00:06:50,201 --> 00:06:51,620 and that totally changed my life. 107 00:06:51,703 --> 00:06:54,331 I just did what she said to do and it was weird. 108 00:06:54,414 --> 00:06:58,168 I finished it and then I met Kendall and Macky, 109 00:06:58,251 --> 00:06:59,836 like, a month later. 110 00:07:02,172 --> 00:07:05,050 We had a couple different guitar players at first, 111 00:07:05,133 --> 00:07:10,055 but it only clicked when Nick, who is Kendall's stepbrother, 112 00:07:10,513 --> 00:07:13,266 he came to our first show and once that happened, 113 00:07:13,350 --> 00:07:18,146 then it was kinda, we all were like, "This is all we wanna do." 114 00:07:20,315 --> 00:07:22,525 There's so many friends I have that are musicians 115 00:07:22,609 --> 00:07:24,861 that it's just like, I know it's really, really hard, 116 00:07:24,945 --> 00:07:28,031 just like acting is, but, but it makes you wonder, 117 00:07:28,114 --> 00:07:30,951 you know, would Nirvana, like some of these bands, 118 00:07:31,034 --> 00:07:33,995 how would they, how would they make it today? 119 00:07:34,079 --> 00:07:36,748 Bob Dylan, for Christ's sake. Like, I mean, like, how, how-- 120 00:07:36,831 --> 00:07:40,710 some of your favorites, like, would they have been what they are 121 00:07:41,252 --> 00:07:42,504 if they came out today? 122 00:07:45,882 --> 00:07:47,467 And I don't know, 123 00:07:47,968 --> 00:07:49,594 but I feel like something's 124 00:07:49,678 --> 00:07:51,846 gotta give a little bit, you know? 125 00:07:56,017 --> 00:07:57,435 Is that happening before it's time 126 00:07:57,519 --> 00:07:58,979 to actually do the work, ever? 127 00:07:59,062 --> 00:08:00,397 -No, I'm-- -No. You're psyched? 128 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,608 No, I mostly cry. I get really emotional. 129 00:08:03,692 --> 00:08:04,985 -Really? -I get really emotional. 130 00:08:05,068 --> 00:08:06,361 I get really fuckin', like... 131 00:08:06,444 --> 00:08:08,113 It makes my guts off-- I'm really emotional. 132 00:08:09,030 --> 00:08:12,409 I get to a place where I wanna go home and get in bed 133 00:08:12,492 --> 00:08:14,077 and cancel the show and not-- 134 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,746 That's always-- And sometimes I get emotional. 135 00:08:16,830 --> 00:08:19,666 Like, "I wish I didn't have to do this, I wish I didn't have to do this." 136 00:08:19,749 --> 00:08:24,713 And then I pray to all my favorite people like Little Richard and Bo Diddley, 137 00:08:24,796 --> 00:08:27,257 and I'm like, "Please give me the energy." 138 00:08:27,340 --> 00:08:29,759 It was so cool in Woodstock. 139 00:08:29,843 --> 00:08:32,511 I mean, it's the hometown hero. So, it was just an honor, 140 00:08:32,595 --> 00:08:34,764 and being able to walk around the town with them, 141 00:08:34,847 --> 00:08:37,142 meet their family, it was really cool. 142 00:10:28,128 --> 00:10:29,420 I always wanted to be in a band. 143 00:10:29,504 --> 00:10:33,091 I had severe fear issues performing. 144 00:10:33,174 --> 00:10:36,010 Like, I fantasized about it 145 00:10:36,094 --> 00:10:39,931 and never could take an action towards doing it. 146 00:10:42,350 --> 00:10:43,184 I... 147 00:10:43,268 --> 00:10:44,727 I had a really bad drinking problem 148 00:10:44,811 --> 00:10:50,483 and I got sober and the fear of sucking went away. 149 00:10:50,567 --> 00:10:55,613 The desire to do it became greater than the fear of doing it. 150 00:10:59,534 --> 00:11:02,537 For us, there's never been this normal path. 151 00:11:02,620 --> 00:11:05,582 Like, anything that's happened feels like the universe 152 00:11:05,665 --> 00:11:08,042 just gives us little, like, winks 153 00:11:08,126 --> 00:11:11,880 and good weird shit happens like Jason reaching out. 154 00:11:12,839 --> 00:11:14,299 Once you get to meet everyone, like... 155 00:11:14,841 --> 00:11:17,218 Sam's like my, you know, it's family. 156 00:11:17,677 --> 00:11:20,180 She's just such a powerhouse. 157 00:11:20,263 --> 00:11:23,600 Watching her sing, she's just so creative and raw, 158 00:11:23,683 --> 00:11:26,519 at the same time so sensitive. She's such an artist. 159 00:11:26,603 --> 00:11:31,107 Macky's so, like, just born into this royal family 160 00:11:31,191 --> 00:11:33,651 of just artisans and musicians. 161 00:11:34,277 --> 00:11:37,113 I just think he's, he's something really special. 162 00:11:37,572 --> 00:11:40,491 Kendall's like my sister. Like, I love this woman so much. 163 00:11:41,492 --> 00:11:43,786 Someone who I look up to. She's like my teacher. 164 00:11:43,870 --> 00:11:45,788 Like, I'll ask her all kinds of stuff. 165 00:11:46,789 --> 00:11:49,918 Nicky, little brother, he just shreds, picks up anything. 166 00:11:50,543 --> 00:11:52,503 Kind of a wiz with anything. 167 00:11:54,130 --> 00:11:58,218 It's, it's been a long haul. So, the thought of... 168 00:11:59,469 --> 00:12:02,555 maybe not doing it again... 169 00:12:04,015 --> 00:12:06,684 is definitely affected me. 170 00:12:29,165 --> 00:12:29,999 What? 171 00:12:31,584 --> 00:12:33,711 Hey, you killed it, first of all. 172 00:12:33,795 --> 00:12:35,129 And second-- 173 00:12:44,138 --> 00:12:45,640 I need music to get me up. 174 00:12:45,723 --> 00:12:49,060 Like, I can't take, like, a pill or whatever. 175 00:12:49,143 --> 00:12:52,981 I listen to a song and I'm just-- It's magic. 176 00:12:53,064 --> 00:12:57,443 It totally can change my mood. It's-- It's-- 177 00:12:57,527 --> 00:12:58,695 So, yeah, to not-- 178 00:12:58,778 --> 00:13:02,657 To say that that has no value anymore, that feels like... 179 00:13:02,740 --> 00:13:05,785 it's sad. It's really fucked up, so... 180 00:13:09,872 --> 00:13:13,876 Jason basically was like, "Uh, how can I help? 181 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,296 What, what does a band like you need?" 182 00:13:16,379 --> 00:13:17,797 I said, "I don't know." 183 00:13:19,132 --> 00:13:22,802 From where we sat, we thought, "Oh, I guess you need a major label deal." 184 00:13:22,885 --> 00:13:27,849 And I said, "Yeah, I think that helps because they get it out to more people." 185 00:13:27,932 --> 00:13:31,978 He came on the phone like a superhero and was like, "I'm gonna try it all. 186 00:13:32,061 --> 00:13:35,606 I'm gonna, you know, try to do it all." 187 00:13:35,690 --> 00:13:37,400 It felt like an adventure 188 00:13:37,483 --> 00:13:40,028 from when he called, till now, of, 189 00:13:40,445 --> 00:13:42,530 okay, let's see what happens. 190 00:14:11,976 --> 00:14:13,561 This is amazing. 191 00:14:14,437 --> 00:14:17,023 I feel like I'm selling Girl Scout Cookies. 192 00:14:18,816 --> 00:14:20,735 When Jason brought us into Atlantic, 193 00:14:20,818 --> 00:14:23,071 part of me was super excited 194 00:14:23,154 --> 00:14:26,407 because we'd never had access to a major label before. 195 00:14:26,491 --> 00:14:29,327 But also he had me read the letter and I was like, 196 00:14:29,410 --> 00:14:30,995 "This is weird" because it's not like 197 00:14:31,079 --> 00:14:32,914 I'm gonna touch him by reading this letter, 198 00:14:32,997 --> 00:14:35,708 something's gonna click, like, raise the Spotify rate. 199 00:14:36,959 --> 00:14:39,796 The reason that the major label acts can sustain 200 00:14:39,879 --> 00:14:42,382 is because they have private deals with Spotify. 201 00:14:42,465 --> 00:14:45,218 Whereas anyone that's not on a major, like us, 202 00:14:45,301 --> 00:14:47,887 they pay you $0.004 a play. 203 00:14:52,558 --> 00:14:54,102 I think the unfortunate thing, 204 00:14:54,185 --> 00:14:57,355 what we've seen is, if people have the option to not pay, 205 00:14:57,438 --> 00:14:59,065 they're not going to pay. 206 00:14:59,357 --> 00:15:00,691 I've thought a lot about it. 207 00:15:00,775 --> 00:15:02,402 I've talked to a lot of bands on the road about it, 208 00:15:02,485 --> 00:15:03,778 and it feels like the crux of the issue 209 00:15:03,861 --> 00:15:06,781 is that there just-- the value isn't there. 210 00:15:06,864 --> 00:15:08,741 So any kid growing up right now, 211 00:15:09,158 --> 00:15:11,869 they don't think it's worth anything 'cause it's free. 212 00:15:12,578 --> 00:15:15,665 I would have liked things to have went a certain way. 213 00:15:15,748 --> 00:15:19,377 But, yeah, like, I still had hopes for it. I still had the energy. 214 00:15:19,460 --> 00:15:21,170 Obviously, the band probably felt a little different. 215 00:15:21,254 --> 00:15:23,464 They were maybe like, it couldn't happen, 216 00:15:23,548 --> 00:15:27,468 but I don't know. I've had the door shut on me 217 00:15:27,552 --> 00:15:29,262 and fell into so many holes. 218 00:15:29,345 --> 00:15:30,930 I had to dig myself out of 'em 219 00:15:31,013 --> 00:15:33,766 that I just feel like I'm not gonna take no for an answer. 220 00:15:33,850 --> 00:15:35,935 And let's just-- You know, talent is talent, 221 00:15:36,018 --> 00:15:37,437 and they got it. 222 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,522 And I feel like you just gotta find the right people. 223 00:15:39,605 --> 00:15:41,732 When we play, it feels really good, still. 224 00:15:41,816 --> 00:15:45,111 I mean, when you hear people, like, singing your words back to you, 225 00:15:45,194 --> 00:15:47,447 hopefully your music's, like, helping them. 226 00:15:48,614 --> 00:15:51,701 Something is clearly wrong, if you're selling out shows, 227 00:15:51,784 --> 00:15:55,037 like 500-cap rooms in New York and LA and touring the world, 228 00:15:55,121 --> 00:15:56,831 and how are you not able 229 00:15:56,914 --> 00:15:59,709 to make like a minimum wage living or sustain. 230 00:16:00,543 --> 00:16:03,838 For Bellevue, for instance, like, we toured that record for 18 months. 231 00:16:03,921 --> 00:16:05,089 We had a million plays. 232 00:16:05,173 --> 00:16:08,759 We made $4,000 from touring it for 18 months. 233 00:16:10,511 --> 00:16:12,472 You know, no one wants to work for free at this point. 234 00:16:12,555 --> 00:16:14,765 It feels like, I hate to use the word "disrespectful," 235 00:16:14,849 --> 00:16:16,726 but I feel like at a certain point 236 00:16:16,809 --> 00:16:18,352 when you're grinding it out and you're touring, 237 00:16:18,436 --> 00:16:20,188 you're like, "This feels wrong." 238 00:16:20,271 --> 00:16:22,231 Like, I'm giving this much. 239 00:16:22,315 --> 00:16:24,066 I feel so depleted. 240 00:16:25,651 --> 00:16:27,195 I feel like a lot of people feel this, 241 00:16:27,278 --> 00:16:30,323 like deep yearning for something that they think is their purpose, 242 00:16:30,406 --> 00:16:33,910 that they really want this kind of like, "I have to have it." 243 00:16:34,535 --> 00:16:35,870 I don't feel that way anymore, 244 00:16:35,953 --> 00:16:39,373 which is kind of really nice because it got painful, 245 00:16:39,457 --> 00:16:42,919 like, wanting the band to be successful, wanting... 246 00:16:43,461 --> 00:16:46,797 And now I just feel kinda like it's kinda out of our hands. 247 00:16:46,881 --> 00:16:50,426 I mean, we show up, we play every show like it's our last show. 248 00:16:50,968 --> 00:16:53,971 We need a shift where, like... 249 00:16:54,555 --> 00:16:57,266 yeah, it's just, it's too much of a grind. 250 00:16:58,809 --> 00:17:02,146 We just have to stop for a while and we're not sure if we're gonna be back. 251 00:17:08,277 --> 00:17:11,030 I don't know. My gut says it's not 252 00:17:11,113 --> 00:17:14,617 a never-doing-it-again thing, but I have no idea. 253 00:17:14,700 --> 00:17:18,204 It's kind of liberating to have no fucking clue. 254 00:17:19,997 --> 00:17:23,041 I know that feeling. I work a lot and... 255 00:17:23,125 --> 00:17:28,089 you definitely can be drained and you don't get the best of you. 256 00:17:29,799 --> 00:17:31,092 I think they were like, 257 00:17:31,175 --> 00:17:33,803 "Alright, we need, like, some time." 258 00:17:33,886 --> 00:17:37,348 And I think everyone just had to like, step away from everything for a while. 259 00:18:13,759 --> 00:18:17,013 I don't remember how to play it really, I think. 260 00:18:17,096 --> 00:18:18,055 Yeah, you do. 261 00:18:18,139 --> 00:18:19,599 This is how I bring songs, too. 262 00:18:19,682 --> 00:18:21,809 I'm like, I think it's these three chords, and then... 263 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:51,839 Yeah! 264 00:18:52,423 --> 00:18:53,758 I'll do it again. I'm getting it. 265 00:18:58,220 --> 00:18:59,472 Watching them write on the spot, 266 00:18:59,555 --> 00:19:03,517 watching them be, you know, like, just watching the song come together... 267 00:19:05,811 --> 00:19:07,772 You know, like, everything had changed. 268 00:19:08,230 --> 00:19:10,316 They're coming back. They had rest. 269 00:19:10,399 --> 00:19:13,319 Some of the band members went out and toured for a little bit. 270 00:19:13,402 --> 00:19:16,656 They came back with songs, and we got into the studio. 271 00:19:16,739 --> 00:19:18,157 It was lightning in a bottle. 272 00:19:25,331 --> 00:19:28,959 That was a beautiful part of this journey together to be with them and, like, 273 00:19:29,043 --> 00:19:32,213 watch it just kind of go, "Alright, we're doing this." 274 00:19:33,881 --> 00:19:36,217 That little bit of time off, when I came back, 275 00:19:36,300 --> 00:19:38,052 yeah, they were, like, ready to rock. 276 00:19:38,135 --> 00:19:39,095 They were ready to go. 277 00:19:49,980 --> 00:19:52,024 -Something like that. That's cool. -A little faster... 278 00:19:53,734 --> 00:19:55,653 That was awesome. 279 00:19:56,237 --> 00:19:57,488 That was awesome! 280 00:20:19,802 --> 00:20:22,304 -What's up, everybody? -What's going on? 281 00:20:22,388 --> 00:20:24,223 It's been a year. It's been a year, right? 282 00:20:24,306 --> 00:20:25,599 -Since I've seen you guys. -Almost. 283 00:20:25,683 --> 00:20:27,059 -Yeah. -Almost a year. 284 00:20:27,143 --> 00:20:29,895 -Uh-huh. -And I'm just curious to know 285 00:20:29,979 --> 00:20:33,941 where everyone is with their lives right now. 286 00:20:34,024 --> 00:20:35,484 How you feeling? 287 00:20:35,568 --> 00:20:37,403 And, yeah, just kinda what's going on. 288 00:20:37,486 --> 00:20:38,988 I just wanna hear from each one of you and like, 289 00:20:39,071 --> 00:20:40,698 and also like getting back together 'cause you guys 290 00:20:40,781 --> 00:20:42,199 probably haven't seen each other in a year, too. 291 00:20:42,992 --> 00:20:46,287 -Yeah. -We got back a month ago. 292 00:20:46,871 --> 00:20:51,959 And we said, "Let's start writing," because of your generosity and 293 00:20:52,042 --> 00:20:54,003 this opportunity to make another record. 294 00:20:54,086 --> 00:20:55,963 And it was weird 'cause we got together 295 00:20:56,046 --> 00:21:00,593 and in two weeks wrote, like, 14 songs, which was more-- 296 00:21:00,676 --> 00:21:03,137 We usually take a little more time than that. 297 00:21:03,220 --> 00:21:06,140 We usually take a month to write five songs. 298 00:21:06,390 --> 00:21:08,726 So, it was, I think-- I don't know. 299 00:21:08,809 --> 00:21:13,314 I think we had something to get out of us. We had, you know, had to come out. 300 00:21:13,397 --> 00:21:14,398 Yes. 301 00:21:14,482 --> 00:21:18,319 I think we're excited to do some things differently, you know? 302 00:21:19,111 --> 00:21:20,654 I think, like, because we were like 303 00:21:20,738 --> 00:21:22,823 laughing a lot in the rehearsals. 304 00:21:22,907 --> 00:21:24,867 And I think it's just because, like, we were letting ourselves 305 00:21:24,950 --> 00:21:27,286 just do things that we wouldn't normally do. 306 00:21:27,369 --> 00:21:31,123 And it was nice to, like, just be free in that way. 307 00:21:31,207 --> 00:21:33,250 So, I think everybody's excited for that. 308 00:21:38,881 --> 00:21:41,717 The fact that it was, it's been a year pretty much 309 00:21:41,801 --> 00:21:45,012 since we were in Woodstock, it's incre-- 310 00:21:45,095 --> 00:21:48,557 Like, I can't even believe how fast time flew by. 311 00:21:50,601 --> 00:21:53,103 Yeah, over the past year, it's been crazy. 312 00:21:53,187 --> 00:21:56,273 It's been a lot of doubt. It's been a lot of hope. 313 00:21:56,774 --> 00:21:58,859 Dealing with, you know, taking a break, 314 00:21:58,943 --> 00:22:03,489 and, like, it was very emotional and it felt like a grieving process. 315 00:22:04,698 --> 00:22:06,408 It kinda felt like a breakup or something, 316 00:22:06,492 --> 00:22:08,202 and it was really strange. 317 00:22:08,911 --> 00:22:10,621 Like, I actually kinda feel like 318 00:22:10,704 --> 00:22:13,541 I was a kid when, you know, we took a break 319 00:22:13,624 --> 00:22:15,251 and I feel like I'm an adult now. 320 00:22:16,961 --> 00:22:21,632 I quickly realized over this last year that this band means so much to me. 321 00:22:23,092 --> 00:22:24,969 It's like always gonna be a huge part of me. 322 00:22:25,052 --> 00:22:27,263 But it was nice to actually get the chance 323 00:22:27,346 --> 00:22:30,349 to realize that there's a whole world outside of it. 324 00:22:33,227 --> 00:22:35,938 It's like a relationship, being in a band where it's like, 325 00:22:36,021 --> 00:22:37,648 you lose yourself in it, you know what I mean? 326 00:22:37,731 --> 00:22:42,069 You forget what you know you are as an individual outside of it. 327 00:22:42,152 --> 00:22:44,363 So, I think getting this year away 328 00:22:44,446 --> 00:22:48,242 has helped me kind of remember why I like to make stuff. 329 00:22:51,537 --> 00:22:54,081 During the time off, I did have time to-- 330 00:22:54,164 --> 00:22:58,252 There were some moments of like, "Can I be okay without this?" 331 00:22:58,335 --> 00:23:02,256 And I can't, I have to be making something. 332 00:23:02,339 --> 00:23:07,219 I get very depressed if I'm just consuming other people's work. 333 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,056 I'm driven by music. 334 00:23:11,140 --> 00:23:13,475 I mean, that's like, that's the ultimate art form for me. 335 00:23:13,559 --> 00:23:16,562 Like, that's what I write to. That's what I, like, I use to inspire me 336 00:23:16,645 --> 00:23:18,022 in every shape or form. 337 00:23:18,105 --> 00:23:19,982 Like, I love music. 338 00:23:21,233 --> 00:23:24,069 I just had this idea, like, just talking to them, going like, 339 00:23:24,153 --> 00:23:27,197 well, like, "Can you just do it one more time? 340 00:23:27,281 --> 00:23:29,325 "Like, just let's take one more shot at it. 341 00:23:29,408 --> 00:23:32,202 "I really wanna help support, I don't know much about the industry, 342 00:23:32,286 --> 00:23:33,704 "but I think maybe I could open some doors 343 00:23:33,787 --> 00:23:35,831 "or maybe some people you can produce with. 344 00:23:36,457 --> 00:23:37,750 Would you guys do another album?" 345 00:23:37,833 --> 00:23:39,126 And they entertained it. 346 00:23:40,961 --> 00:23:42,588 When they said yes, they wanna do it, 347 00:23:42,671 --> 00:23:44,048 I was gonna back it to the end 348 00:23:44,131 --> 00:23:46,508 because I just believe in this, and I believe in them. 349 00:23:53,974 --> 00:23:55,267 Where are we? 350 00:23:55,351 --> 00:23:57,353 Los Angeles, California. 351 00:23:57,436 --> 00:23:59,897 What are you guys hoping to get out of this? 352 00:23:59,980 --> 00:24:02,650 Songs. Good ones, hopefully. 353 00:24:03,484 --> 00:24:04,902 A record we're proud of. 354 00:24:04,985 --> 00:24:06,612 Do you ever have, like, 355 00:24:06,695 --> 00:24:08,614 any sort of... 356 00:24:08,697 --> 00:24:11,408 nerves going into, into the recording? 357 00:24:11,492 --> 00:24:15,871 Today, I feel nothing, but three days ago when we first got here, I didn't sleep 358 00:24:15,955 --> 00:24:18,832 and I was very-- just going through the worst scenario. 359 00:24:18,916 --> 00:24:21,710 Like, we get there, all the songs suck. This is-- Yeah. 360 00:24:21,794 --> 00:24:24,838 So I had my fearful time. 361 00:24:24,922 --> 00:24:27,341 And now I feel Zen and ready to just, 362 00:24:27,424 --> 00:24:30,344 just do the, just do the work. 363 00:24:30,719 --> 00:24:32,763 Me too, just calm. 364 00:24:32,846 --> 00:24:34,807 Did you have a spike of-- 365 00:24:35,307 --> 00:24:39,687 I think I was a little nervous, like flying out, you know? 366 00:24:39,770 --> 00:24:41,855 Just, I don't know, just like a little, like, 367 00:24:41,939 --> 00:24:44,942 just I have absolutely no idea what to expect, but... 368 00:24:53,409 --> 00:24:55,577 -I can hop on the-- -Might as well get it. 369 00:24:55,661 --> 00:24:56,620 Yeah, yeah. Great. 370 00:24:56,704 --> 00:24:58,580 -I also had an idea. -Yeah? 371 00:24:58,664 --> 00:25:01,125 -If we echoed the end to it. -Like... 372 00:25:05,879 --> 00:25:06,964 -Sure. -Just to see. 373 00:25:07,047 --> 00:25:08,382 -Let's try it. -Okay. 374 00:25:16,265 --> 00:25:18,350 Do you think we need another pass at those or we got it? 375 00:25:18,434 --> 00:25:19,768 -I think we got it. -We got it. 376 00:25:46,336 --> 00:25:49,590 You can definitely feel whether an energy is good or bad, 377 00:25:49,673 --> 00:25:51,675 almost immediately, we find. 378 00:25:51,759 --> 00:25:54,303 The moment we walked in there, we were like, "This is great. 379 00:25:54,386 --> 00:25:57,014 This is, this is gonna be perfect for us." 380 00:25:57,806 --> 00:25:59,349 We've been recording at Sunset Sound, 381 00:25:59,433 --> 00:26:01,602 legendary studio. 382 00:26:01,685 --> 00:26:03,395 LED Zeppelin did Zeppelin IV. 383 00:26:03,479 --> 00:26:05,981 I think the Stones did Let It Bleed there. 384 00:26:06,565 --> 00:26:08,692 Some Van Halen albums were done. 385 00:26:10,194 --> 00:26:13,822 Coming out here to California to a record a record 386 00:26:13,906 --> 00:26:16,408 and you just feel-- It feels really good, you know? 387 00:26:18,077 --> 00:26:22,581 Alex and Dave, just like their ability to just hear a part 388 00:26:22,664 --> 00:26:24,458 and be like, "Why don't we try this?" 389 00:26:24,541 --> 00:26:26,460 And they throw out an idea and it's like, 390 00:26:26,543 --> 00:26:28,295 "Oh, where was this the whole time?" I mean... 391 00:26:29,671 --> 00:26:31,840 We're trying not to, like, judge anything now. 392 00:26:32,341 --> 00:26:33,675 I think we used to do that in the past 393 00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:37,596 where even if we were writing, the basic track wasn't good. 394 00:26:37,679 --> 00:26:39,973 Now we're just, we're getting the whole thing done, 395 00:26:40,057 --> 00:26:41,600 and then maybe in a month, you know, 396 00:26:41,683 --> 00:26:42,976 that's when we'll like, assess. 397 00:26:47,815 --> 00:26:52,402 Every song so far we've tracked, like, when we go back and listen 398 00:26:52,486 --> 00:26:54,738 in the control room, you know, 399 00:26:54,822 --> 00:26:57,491 I know I'm doing this the whole time. 400 00:26:57,574 --> 00:27:00,160 My head is nodding, my eyes are closed, and then I look around 401 00:27:00,244 --> 00:27:02,788 and everyone else is right there. 402 00:27:02,871 --> 00:27:05,582 We were getting kinda bored of just garage rock sounds. 403 00:27:05,666 --> 00:27:07,835 I listen to a lot of hip-hop stuff 404 00:27:07,918 --> 00:27:11,630 and I really wanted that undeniable head nod feeling, 405 00:27:11,713 --> 00:27:13,632 and I think we achieved that for a few songs. 406 00:27:14,424 --> 00:27:18,095 It's like a wave of emotion where it's-- 407 00:27:18,178 --> 00:27:20,055 I mean, we've been there four days 408 00:27:20,139 --> 00:27:22,141 and I've gone through being, like, 409 00:27:22,224 --> 00:27:25,477 "Wow, this is great," to existential crisis. 410 00:27:25,561 --> 00:27:28,605 I go through it all, and I've been told 411 00:27:28,689 --> 00:27:32,484 not to judge the work, just do it, so I just do it. 412 00:27:45,414 --> 00:27:47,749 I'm a really big fan of Dave's, personally, 413 00:27:47,833 --> 00:27:50,002 one of his kind of breakthrough albums as a producer 414 00:27:50,085 --> 00:27:51,962 was this album by the band Wolfmother, 415 00:27:52,045 --> 00:27:55,424 which I remember I listened to nonstop when I was... 416 00:27:56,341 --> 00:27:57,176 five. 417 00:28:07,811 --> 00:28:09,354 That's the second time you sang that. 418 00:28:09,438 --> 00:28:11,023 I mean, it is, though. 419 00:28:22,868 --> 00:28:24,411 It's been a really relieving process. 420 00:28:24,494 --> 00:28:26,872 It's always good when you have producers and engineers 421 00:28:26,955 --> 00:28:29,833 who are like, really good at backing you up 422 00:28:29,917 --> 00:28:32,461 and making you feel confident about your parts and... 423 00:28:33,921 --> 00:28:35,797 Yeah, it's been a really, really, really great experience 424 00:28:35,881 --> 00:28:37,466 for everybody, I think. 425 00:28:53,523 --> 00:28:56,485 -Awesome. -Oh, it's so fuckin' good. 426 00:28:56,568 --> 00:28:58,111 This is our fourth time in the studio, 427 00:28:58,195 --> 00:29:01,490 so we know-- I can look at Macky or Nick or Kendall, 428 00:29:01,573 --> 00:29:02,574 we know when it's working. 429 00:29:02,658 --> 00:29:05,661 We know when it's not. You feel it. It's like a feel. 430 00:29:07,663 --> 00:29:11,583 I think the drums should be tighter, 431 00:29:11,667 --> 00:29:13,293 like less cymbally. 432 00:29:13,377 --> 00:29:14,711 -Yeah, I agree. -Sure. 433 00:29:14,795 --> 00:29:17,089 Like, it should just be really like, pah! 434 00:29:17,172 --> 00:29:18,674 -Yeah. -Less chemical. 435 00:29:18,757 --> 00:29:21,593 The last couple were feeling good 436 00:29:21,677 --> 00:29:24,137 and then it got complicated again, right? 437 00:29:24,221 --> 00:29:26,473 It's just really cool to see how we're, like, 438 00:29:26,556 --> 00:29:29,726 growing, I think, together as musicians. 439 00:29:36,316 --> 00:29:37,526 Come on! 440 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,863 -Come on. -Thank you. 441 00:29:41,947 --> 00:29:44,324 Yeah, right. Where do you want-- 442 00:29:44,408 --> 00:29:45,325 There's still a lot going on. 443 00:29:46,285 --> 00:29:47,577 Let's start on... 444 00:29:49,162 --> 00:29:51,290 -Let's fix one vocal thing. -Okay. 445 00:29:51,373 --> 00:29:53,458 I wanted to comp... 446 00:29:54,751 --> 00:29:57,212 -Dance? -"...girl" right before the bridge comes. 447 00:30:00,590 --> 00:30:01,967 I wanted to punch it right. 448 00:30:06,930 --> 00:30:08,223 Different girl? 449 00:30:08,307 --> 00:30:11,852 Yeah. And come in, "girl" right when he hits the... 450 00:30:46,219 --> 00:30:48,055 The last time I saw you, you were pregnant. 451 00:30:48,138 --> 00:30:51,808 How you were preggers-- How much-- You were, like, six months, maybe? 452 00:30:51,892 --> 00:30:53,352 When, when we filmed the first-- 453 00:30:53,435 --> 00:30:55,020 -Yeah, when we filmed-- -In Woodstock? 454 00:30:55,103 --> 00:30:56,355 Yeah. No, you were like-- 455 00:30:56,438 --> 00:30:57,731 -I was like, four months. -Four months. 456 00:30:57,814 --> 00:31:01,193 And then when we did the record, I was eight months? 457 00:31:01,276 --> 00:31:03,111 -It was crazy. -It was close. 458 00:31:03,195 --> 00:31:04,279 I think it was-- 459 00:31:04,363 --> 00:31:06,323 -And now Ozzy's-- -And now Ozzy's... 460 00:31:06,406 --> 00:31:08,450 -Two and a half. -...two and a half months. 461 00:31:09,534 --> 00:31:11,370 We've known each other for a year and a half now, 462 00:31:11,453 --> 00:31:12,579 -right? -Yeah. 463 00:31:12,662 --> 00:31:16,083 November 9th, we were all here-- It was crazy enough. Called them up here. 464 00:31:16,166 --> 00:31:20,462 We'd been chatting on Instagram and lured them over here. 465 00:31:20,545 --> 00:31:22,089 They're like, "What the fuck are we getting into?" 466 00:31:22,172 --> 00:31:24,508 I was wearing the same jacket that day as I'm wearing today. 467 00:31:25,342 --> 00:31:27,135 -I just wanted to have that-- -You were supposed to do that, right? 468 00:31:27,219 --> 00:31:28,261 Yeah. 469 00:31:29,012 --> 00:31:30,263 -Alright. -Full circle. 470 00:31:30,347 --> 00:31:33,266 But, yeah, let's play it. What are we playing it on? 471 00:31:33,350 --> 00:31:35,018 Are we like picking? Do you have a favorite? 472 00:31:35,102 --> 00:31:36,937 I didn't want to listen to anything until I was with you. 473 00:31:37,020 --> 00:31:38,271 I've only heard one fuckin' song. 474 00:31:38,355 --> 00:31:39,773 -Are you serious? -I just wanna-- 475 00:31:39,856 --> 00:31:41,650 This is all new 'cause I wanted to wait till I was with you. 476 00:31:41,733 --> 00:31:42,692 -Oh. -Oh, wow. 477 00:31:42,776 --> 00:31:43,735 Have you heard "50 Ft"? 478 00:31:43,819 --> 00:31:44,778 I haven't heard nothing. 479 00:31:44,861 --> 00:31:46,154 -Oh, dude. Oh, wow. -Oh. 480 00:31:46,238 --> 00:31:48,031 -That shit spanks. -That's my favorite. 481 00:31:48,115 --> 00:31:49,282 That's why I wanted-- 482 00:31:49,366 --> 00:31:50,784 That song to me was worth the entire trip. 483 00:31:50,867 --> 00:31:52,035 I agree. I agree-- 484 00:31:52,119 --> 00:31:55,705 That's my favorite. And I'm so grateful we got to make it. 485 00:32:22,399 --> 00:32:24,401 What was your first reaction? 486 00:32:24,484 --> 00:32:26,194 "I wanna direct this one. I wanna direct that one. 487 00:32:26,278 --> 00:32:27,779 I wanna direct this one. I wanna direct that one." 488 00:32:27,863 --> 00:32:28,864 That was what it was. 489 00:32:36,830 --> 00:32:38,373 It feels like The Bobby Lees. 490 00:32:38,457 --> 00:32:41,126 Yeah, I think it feels exactly like the Bobby Lees. 491 00:32:41,209 --> 00:32:43,920 But it's got that sound. It's got that rawness. 492 00:32:44,004 --> 00:32:46,173 It's just got that energy. 493 00:32:46,256 --> 00:32:49,092 I think all the fans are gonna be stoked. 494 00:32:49,176 --> 00:32:51,303 And I feel like everybody knew that's gonna come to it. 495 00:32:51,386 --> 00:32:52,596 It's gonna be-- Gonna love it. 496 00:32:58,477 --> 00:33:00,729 Did John tell you about the Epitaph thing? 497 00:33:00,812 --> 00:33:02,522 -No. -That that label-- 498 00:33:03,148 --> 00:33:06,276 That there's a good label that loves this record 499 00:33:06,359 --> 00:33:07,819 and wants to put it out. 500 00:33:07,903 --> 00:33:09,196 Who do they have, Macky? 501 00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:11,448 -Isn't Epitaph fuckin' Tom-- -Did Weezer-- 502 00:33:12,157 --> 00:33:14,159 -Tom Waits. -Tom Waits is on Epitaph, right? 503 00:33:14,242 --> 00:33:17,537 Yeah, 'cause underneath Epitaph, they have ANTI. 504 00:33:17,621 --> 00:33:18,830 -ANTI. -And that's-- 505 00:33:18,914 --> 00:33:21,291 That's, like, the parent company is Epitaph. 506 00:33:21,374 --> 00:33:24,377 The founder of it called John and loved it. 507 00:33:24,461 --> 00:33:28,882 And we're Zooming with him and the president on Monday 508 00:33:28,965 --> 00:33:32,135 and then they booked me and John a ticket, 509 00:33:32,219 --> 00:33:36,681 we're flying out on Wednesday to go meet them and John-- 510 00:33:36,765 --> 00:33:38,517 -Where at? In LA? -In LA. 511 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,687 John lied and told them that four other labels are interested 512 00:33:42,771 --> 00:33:44,439 and we'd like to make a decision by the end of the week. 513 00:33:44,523 --> 00:33:46,441 So they said, "Well, we gotta get you out here quick then." 514 00:33:46,525 --> 00:33:48,860 So, they put us on a-- So, we're "making--" 515 00:33:48,944 --> 00:33:50,695 Yeah, but did John tell 'em 516 00:33:50,779 --> 00:33:52,239 about what you guys are doing on the show today? 517 00:33:52,322 --> 00:33:54,616 Yeah. I think that was a big asset for us. 518 00:33:54,699 --> 00:33:56,409 -Fucking huge. -Yeah. So they were excited. 519 00:33:56,493 --> 00:33:58,245 -Yeah! That's dope. -Yeah, so that's-- 520 00:33:58,328 --> 00:34:00,121 Yeah. They're really good. 521 00:34:00,205 --> 00:34:03,500 Well, but I feel like we can't celebrate it yet 522 00:34:03,583 --> 00:34:04,918 until it's for sure. 523 00:34:05,001 --> 00:34:07,337 -Well, let's manifest that shit then. -Yeah. Yeah. 524 00:34:08,588 --> 00:34:09,755 Hoo, hoo, hoo. 525 00:34:34,739 --> 00:34:36,658 Oh. Barry, this is Sam. 526 00:34:36,741 --> 00:34:38,201 -Hi, Barry. Sam. -Hey. 527 00:34:38,284 --> 00:34:40,579 -That's Eric, he's our punk rock lawyer. -Hi, Eric. 528 00:34:40,661 --> 00:34:43,748 It was weird 'cause we would sell a shitload of vinyl. 529 00:34:43,831 --> 00:34:46,960 Like, when we play a show, we sell merch. 530 00:34:47,043 --> 00:34:49,838 Like, compared we've talked to other bands, like we can... 531 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,965 The real exchange happens at the show. 532 00:34:52,047 --> 00:34:53,550 The people come, then they come to the next one. 533 00:34:53,632 --> 00:34:55,719 They buy everything we have. They want the new shirt. 534 00:34:55,802 --> 00:34:57,470 The-- But... 535 00:34:58,013 --> 00:34:59,514 But streaming, it didn't equate. 536 00:34:59,598 --> 00:35:03,226 Like, someone at a venue, when we'd sell out a show of 500 people, 537 00:35:03,310 --> 00:35:06,479 someone that has 100 million streams 538 00:35:06,563 --> 00:35:08,648 wasn't bringing the amount of people we were bringing 539 00:35:08,732 --> 00:35:10,275 with 20,000 streams. 540 00:35:10,358 --> 00:35:11,610 -It was weird. -I get it. 541 00:35:11,693 --> 00:35:13,903 Then there's artists who are out there 542 00:35:13,987 --> 00:35:18,033 and they can sell out a thousand-seat theater 543 00:35:18,116 --> 00:35:19,409 or, you know, not seats, 544 00:35:19,492 --> 00:35:22,245 but, you know, thousand-cap theater 545 00:35:22,662 --> 00:35:26,833 and sell a ton of merch, and vinyl records and... 546 00:35:26,916 --> 00:35:28,793 -The streams-- -...but the streams are really low. 547 00:35:28,877 --> 00:35:33,131 And they've not connected the dots. And I can't explain why that happens. 548 00:35:33,214 --> 00:35:35,925 That's the case for some of our artists, too. 549 00:35:36,009 --> 00:35:37,719 We're ready for a shift. 550 00:35:39,638 --> 00:35:40,805 -That's why-- -Yeah. 551 00:35:40,889 --> 00:35:44,809 That's why I love this project because the band is amazing. 552 00:35:48,229 --> 00:35:50,815 It checks every single box. 553 00:35:50,899 --> 00:35:54,152 Songs, the records, the live show. 554 00:35:55,487 --> 00:35:58,907 But you've not connected the dots with the streaming yet, right? 555 00:35:58,990 --> 00:36:00,116 And so... 556 00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:02,243 But the proof's in the pudding. 557 00:36:02,327 --> 00:36:05,163 If it's happening live, it will happen 558 00:36:07,957 --> 00:36:09,292 in the streaming space. 559 00:36:09,376 --> 00:36:13,463 And, yeah, you need a partner to help you, help you get it there. 560 00:36:13,546 --> 00:36:17,842 And I also just wanna say, man, the new record, I think you guys 561 00:36:19,135 --> 00:36:20,720 have really leveled up. 562 00:36:20,804 --> 00:36:24,599 I mean, I love, I love your other stuff, too, 563 00:36:25,392 --> 00:36:27,727 -but I think the new record is stunning. -Thank you. 564 00:36:27,811 --> 00:36:30,730 And so, I think it's kinda perfect timing. 565 00:36:30,814 --> 00:36:32,524 It feels like things have been bubbling 566 00:36:32,607 --> 00:36:35,110 and they're ready to-- that's how it feels. 567 00:36:35,193 --> 00:36:38,446 But we just need the help to push. 568 00:36:49,374 --> 00:36:52,919 I could go into a million stories about how people 569 00:36:53,002 --> 00:36:55,839 who are embedded into the music industry, 570 00:36:55,922 --> 00:36:58,216 and that's their main gig and how they, like, 571 00:36:58,299 --> 00:37:00,385 haven't done anything for us, really. 572 00:37:00,468 --> 00:37:04,764 And then Jason coming in and gifting us on a silver platter 573 00:37:04,848 --> 00:37:08,017 this opportunity to make something that, 574 00:37:08,101 --> 00:37:09,811 you know, something he enjoys, too. 575 00:37:09,894 --> 00:37:13,356 I mean, I can't be grateful enough for the opportunity and everything. 576 00:37:15,358 --> 00:37:17,610 It feels amazing 577 00:37:18,528 --> 00:37:21,573 to have somebody who believes in us so much 578 00:37:21,656 --> 00:37:25,076 and not just-- he's not just saying it, you know, he's doing it. 579 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,621 He's making it happen for us. He's trying to help us. 580 00:37:28,705 --> 00:37:30,248 That's been the big difference 581 00:37:30,331 --> 00:37:32,876 between him and so many other people we've worked with. 582 00:37:37,547 --> 00:37:40,467 That felt to me, like, like we got-- 583 00:37:41,050 --> 00:37:42,385 Like, it went well, right? 584 00:37:42,469 --> 00:37:44,721 Yeah. I'd be shocked if it didn't, right? 585 00:37:44,804 --> 00:37:47,724 We've just, we've had things said to us before, 586 00:37:47,807 --> 00:37:52,061 so we've learned to never get excited unless something's real, 587 00:37:52,145 --> 00:37:53,646 and apparently they're gonna send an offer. 588 00:37:53,730 --> 00:37:55,940 But that felt to me-- 589 00:37:56,024 --> 00:37:57,650 -I believe that guy. -Yeah. 590 00:37:57,734 --> 00:38:01,237 He's a musician. He's in Bad Religion. Like, he's gone through it. 591 00:38:01,321 --> 00:38:03,239 He seems like an honest guy, and I like Sue, too. 592 00:38:03,323 --> 00:38:04,532 -They've-- -Yeah. 593 00:38:04,616 --> 00:38:08,828 It's a huge win, you know. And I think had you guys not come along... 594 00:38:09,954 --> 00:38:14,334 you know, the incentive or excitement to actually get back in 595 00:38:14,417 --> 00:38:16,127 and make another record would not be there. 596 00:38:16,211 --> 00:38:17,170 So, you know... 597 00:38:17,253 --> 00:38:19,672 I don't think this record-- It's nice to also hear-- 598 00:38:19,756 --> 00:38:22,425 I mean, we like the record and that's what matters most, 599 00:38:22,509 --> 00:38:26,513 but I wasn't sure if a label would wanna put it out. 600 00:38:26,596 --> 00:38:28,765 It's different than anything else we've done. 601 00:38:28,848 --> 00:38:29,766 And... 602 00:38:30,558 --> 00:38:31,601 I don't know. 603 00:38:31,684 --> 00:38:33,812 If they had, you know, ended up at a major label, 604 00:38:33,895 --> 00:38:35,730 which is what everybody thinks they want, 605 00:38:35,814 --> 00:38:38,066 they probably would have gotten chewed up, spit out 606 00:38:38,149 --> 00:38:41,778 and, you know, they'd be even more miserable they were-- 607 00:38:42,362 --> 00:38:44,030 than they were when you guys, like, first came along. 608 00:38:44,113 --> 00:38:47,367 I think an artist's first label like this with, 609 00:38:47,450 --> 00:38:49,160 you know, run by Brett, 610 00:38:49,244 --> 00:38:52,664 who's like a real legit fuckin' punk rock guy, 611 00:38:52,747 --> 00:38:54,916 I think it's the best place for 'em, you know? So... 612 00:38:54,999 --> 00:38:57,043 It feels like the best case, ever. 613 00:38:57,126 --> 00:38:59,587 I wanna go woo-hoo, but until the offer comes in, 614 00:38:59,671 --> 00:39:00,964 -I feel like I've-- -Let me check. 615 00:39:01,047 --> 00:39:02,382 How do you feel, Brian? 616 00:39:02,465 --> 00:39:04,217 Do you feel like you can say woo-hoo yet? I mean... 617 00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:06,010 I don't feel like I can ever say woo-hoo. 618 00:39:06,094 --> 00:39:07,804 -Okay. -I'm with you. 619 00:39:07,887 --> 00:39:10,682 So I'm the last person to talk to you, but I think-- 620 00:39:10,765 --> 00:39:12,100 Well, Jason would give us a woo-hoo. 621 00:39:12,183 --> 00:39:13,685 Yeah, Jason would definitely get a woo-hoo. 622 00:39:29,033 --> 00:39:31,786 I'm excited to see how people react to this, 623 00:39:31,870 --> 00:39:34,163 and, you know, how they dance, and... 624 00:39:35,331 --> 00:39:40,044 When I get off stage and I, like, see the smile 625 00:39:40,128 --> 00:39:43,715 or just how I made somebody have a good time-- 626 00:39:44,173 --> 00:39:47,260 I mean, putting a smile on somebody's face is all I live for. 627 00:39:47,343 --> 00:39:48,636 And so, 628 00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:51,431 being able to hop around from city to city and... 629 00:39:53,016 --> 00:39:56,394 have people really relate to that and connect to it, 630 00:39:56,477 --> 00:40:00,106 it's such a gratifying feeling, and I can't get enough of it. 631 00:40:10,116 --> 00:40:14,287 I do think no matter what, like, I at least have to make shit 632 00:40:14,370 --> 00:40:16,164 or else I feel like I'm dying. 633 00:40:18,291 --> 00:40:19,292 Not just about us. 634 00:40:19,375 --> 00:40:21,711 It's happening to a ton of other bands, so... 635 00:40:22,503 --> 00:40:27,258 I just think it's gonna be sad if all that's left is, is TikTok pop. 636 00:40:27,342 --> 00:40:31,095 Like, that's a pretty bleak culture. 637 00:40:45,193 --> 00:40:46,486 I don't know what it means. 638 00:40:47,362 --> 00:40:51,658 I just know that, like, since I started playing music, 639 00:40:51,741 --> 00:40:55,453 I just had this, like, sense that I was going in a direction 640 00:40:55,536 --> 00:40:57,538 of something that had purpose. 641 00:40:57,622 --> 00:40:59,499 I kinda just went with it 642 00:40:59,582 --> 00:41:01,668 because I could feel that it was, like, pulling me. 643 00:41:05,713 --> 00:41:10,218 Nothing's, like, been presented on our path that seems like, 644 00:41:10,301 --> 00:41:13,638 oh, now you can make a living doing it this way. 645 00:41:13,721 --> 00:41:16,015 You guys came in and gave us this huge gift, 646 00:41:16,099 --> 00:41:18,059 but that's-- we're one band, like, you know, 647 00:41:18,142 --> 00:41:19,894 there's so many good bands that-- 648 00:41:20,395 --> 00:41:23,356 I still think the model has to change the way, 649 00:41:23,439 --> 00:41:25,483 the way it is or something has to shift. 650 00:41:26,776 --> 00:41:29,946 I'm interested to stay along for the adventure 651 00:41:30,029 --> 00:41:32,740 to see what will come next. 652 00:41:38,830 --> 00:41:43,084 Being able to see a record from the beginning to the end, 653 00:41:43,167 --> 00:41:46,796 you know, for us to direct it, be able to be part of the whole thing, 654 00:41:46,879 --> 00:41:48,297 help them get a label, 655 00:41:48,381 --> 00:41:51,801 like, that just feels like something beautiful. 656 00:41:51,884 --> 00:41:55,722 And these guys really deserve it. I think they got something special. 657 00:41:56,806 --> 00:41:58,933 I hope it happens with more bands. 658 00:41:59,726 --> 00:42:02,603 I'm excited to be with my friends. I'm excited to see them on tour. 659 00:42:02,687 --> 00:42:04,772 I'm excited to see the new songs on stage. 660 00:42:05,940 --> 00:42:08,151 I really think it's important to buy the artist. 661 00:42:08,234 --> 00:42:09,819 I think it's important to buy the vinyl. 662 00:42:10,319 --> 00:42:11,571 Shit, I'll buy the cassette, 663 00:42:11,654 --> 00:42:13,531 'cause I got a car old enough that that'll work. 664 00:42:17,577 --> 00:42:21,456 And it's like a great gift that you can give to people, is music. 665 00:42:21,539 --> 00:42:24,250 So, you know, just keep passing that along. 666 00:42:24,751 --> 00:42:26,502 Pass it this way.