1 00:00:04,296 --> 00:00:06,006 [tires screeching] 2 00:00:11,512 --> 00:00:12,888 Wait, check this out. 3 00:00:17,351 --> 00:00:18,560 Alright. 4 00:00:19,728 --> 00:00:21,480 -Gentlemen. -[speaker grunts] 5 00:00:21,522 --> 00:00:22,648 [speaker] Thank you. 6 00:00:23,065 --> 00:00:24,858 [laughing] 7 00:00:26,318 --> 00:00:29,905 This is day five. I met them on Thursday. 8 00:00:30,489 --> 00:00:32,115 We had the best night, didn't we? 9 00:00:32,156 --> 00:00:33,534 -We had a good time. -You guys, on Thursday? 10 00:00:33,575 --> 00:00:35,202 We got to watch them play last night. 11 00:00:35,244 --> 00:00:37,663 And right now we're going to Atlantic Records. 12 00:00:37,704 --> 00:00:40,624 The CEO-- 20 years, the CEO. 13 00:00:40,624 --> 00:00:41,959 We're going to Atlantic Records right now 14 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,669 and see if we can get 'em a record deal. 15 00:00:44,044 --> 00:00:45,546 It's crazy. [chuckles] 16 00:00:45,879 --> 00:00:47,130 You gotta try. 17 00:00:47,839 --> 00:00:50,592 [♪ "Wherever I May Roam" by Metallica playing] 18 00:00:55,931 --> 00:00:57,849 ♪♪ 19 00:01:11,029 --> 00:01:14,324 ♪ And the road becomes my bride ♪ 20 00:01:14,700 --> 00:01:17,953 ♪ I have stripped of all but pride ♪ 21 00:01:18,370 --> 00:01:22,039 ♪ So in her I do confide ♪ 22 00:01:22,082 --> 00:01:25,210 ♪ Off the beaten path I reign ♪ 23 00:01:26,128 --> 00:01:28,005 ♪ Rover, wanderer ♪ 24 00:01:28,045 --> 00:01:29,756 ♪ Nomad, vagabond ♪ 25 00:01:29,798 --> 00:01:32,426 ♪ Call me what you will ♪ 26 00:01:32,467 --> 00:01:35,345 ♪♪ 27 00:01:35,387 --> 00:01:39,057 ♪ Wherever I may roam ♪ 28 00:01:42,311 --> 00:01:47,065 ♪ Wherever I may roam ♪ 29 00:01:48,900 --> 00:01:50,860 [wind gusting] 30 00:01:50,902 --> 00:01:52,529 [birds chirping] 31 00:01:52,571 --> 00:01:55,741 Never in a million years did I think I would be... [laughs] 32 00:01:55,782 --> 00:01:58,035 ...in a desert doing On the Roam, 33 00:01:58,076 --> 00:02:00,037 but, I mean, hey, it's On the Roam. 34 00:02:00,037 --> 00:02:05,125 I'm about three hours outside of Abu Dhabi finishing up Dune. 35 00:02:05,167 --> 00:02:06,752 And we're gonna talk about... 36 00:02:07,502 --> 00:02:10,213 a little band called The Bobby Lees. Hit it. 37 00:02:10,255 --> 00:02:12,591 [♪ "Move" by The Bobby Lees playing] 38 00:02:15,927 --> 00:02:17,387 ♪ I put that needle down ♪ 39 00:02:17,429 --> 00:02:19,306 ♪ And feel you start to enter in my bones ♪ 40 00:02:19,973 --> 00:02:21,058 [yells] 41 00:02:21,099 --> 00:02:22,434 ♪ I lend my body out ♪ 42 00:02:22,476 --> 00:02:24,603 ♪ So you can have a temporary home ♪ 43 00:02:27,773 --> 00:02:30,400 -♪ I make that spirit move ♪ -[crowd cheering] 44 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,736 [speaker 1] Today in the studio, we have The Bobby Lees 45 00:02:32,778 --> 00:02:34,446 all the way from Woodstock, New York. 46 00:02:34,488 --> 00:02:36,990 [speaker 2] We're gonna have a live set with The Bobby Lees. 47 00:02:37,031 --> 00:02:38,492 [Henry Rollins] This is a record by a band called 48 00:02:38,533 --> 00:02:39,785 The Bobby Lees. 49 00:02:39,826 --> 00:02:41,119 It's called Skin Suit. 50 00:02:41,161 --> 00:02:42,412 It's really, really interesting. 51 00:02:42,412 --> 00:02:44,081 [Iggy Pop] How about The Bobby Lees? 52 00:02:44,122 --> 00:02:46,333 They're currently on tour in the US. 53 00:02:46,375 --> 00:02:49,127 They're coming to the UK at the end of June. 54 00:02:49,168 --> 00:02:50,587 They're gonna play Europe. 55 00:02:50,629 --> 00:02:52,589 And Debbie Harry says, 56 00:02:52,631 --> 00:02:54,174 "Check out The Bobby Lees. 57 00:02:54,216 --> 00:02:58,011 The future is minimal proto slash punk." 58 00:02:58,053 --> 00:03:01,556 So here are The Bobby Lees with "Hollywood Junkyard." 59 00:03:02,641 --> 00:03:04,935 ♪ I'm lining my heels on the boulevard hoping... ♪ 60 00:03:04,976 --> 00:03:06,520 [Jason Momoa] The truth of it is, I love music, 61 00:03:06,561 --> 00:03:09,272 and so I found The Bobby Lees on Instagram. 62 00:03:09,314 --> 00:03:11,149 I thought they were unbelievable. 63 00:03:11,191 --> 00:03:12,442 I listened to their music 64 00:03:12,484 --> 00:03:14,319 and I just saw them touring around the world, 65 00:03:14,361 --> 00:03:17,197 and I would just kinda miss them everywhere I went. 66 00:03:17,239 --> 00:03:21,118 ♪ So come and find me in the Hollywood Junkyard ♪ 67 00:03:21,660 --> 00:03:24,954 ♪ I'm gonna be a star ♪ 68 00:03:24,996 --> 00:03:28,709 ♪ Yeah, come and find me with my eyes like diamonds ♪ 69 00:03:32,879 --> 00:03:34,172 My name is Sam. 70 00:03:34,214 --> 00:03:36,299 I sing in a band called The Bobby Lees. 71 00:03:36,341 --> 00:03:37,466 I'm Nick Casa. 72 00:03:37,509 --> 00:03:40,053 I play, uh, lead guitar for The Bobby Lees. 73 00:03:40,095 --> 00:03:42,305 My name is Kendall Wind. I play bass. 74 00:03:42,347 --> 00:03:47,436 Macky Bowman, and I play drums for The Bobby Lees. 75 00:03:48,978 --> 00:03:51,314 [Jason] I didn't know much about the music industry, 76 00:03:51,314 --> 00:03:54,067 so I was a little naive to everything. 77 00:03:54,109 --> 00:03:55,986 You just see them and you're like, "Oh, everything's fine. 78 00:03:56,027 --> 00:03:57,571 They're doing great. They're, they're touring." 79 00:03:57,612 --> 00:03:58,822 They're constantly, you know, 80 00:03:58,864 --> 00:04:00,240 obviously they're doing well for themselves. 81 00:04:00,282 --> 00:04:01,742 And then it's just like, "We can't do this anymore." 82 00:04:01,783 --> 00:04:03,326 We met what, was it like three days ago? 83 00:04:03,368 --> 00:04:05,704 -I invited you to the Bowery. -Yes. 84 00:04:05,746 --> 00:04:09,708 We walked in, you were, like, crouched over, shirtless, 85 00:04:09,750 --> 00:04:11,835 kinda just, like, just, like, you obviously, like, 86 00:04:11,835 --> 00:04:14,713 just got into your hotel room and you're, like, "Come up." 87 00:04:14,755 --> 00:04:16,673 And, like, "I didn't expect you so soon." 88 00:04:16,714 --> 00:04:18,507 And then you just came over and gave us, 89 00:04:18,550 --> 00:04:19,676 like, the biggest warm hug. 90 00:04:19,718 --> 00:04:22,262 Yeah. It felt like actually a family feel. 91 00:04:22,304 --> 00:04:24,097 [Nick Casa] One of the top-- top five, 92 00:04:24,139 --> 00:04:25,932 if not top three hugs of all time. 93 00:04:25,974 --> 00:04:27,100 [Jason laughs] 94 00:04:27,142 --> 00:04:28,685 So, the whole thing was like, 95 00:04:28,727 --> 00:04:30,771 they're gonna finish, they were done. 96 00:04:30,812 --> 00:04:32,898 Like, they've been a band for seven years. 97 00:04:32,939 --> 00:04:36,568 And then I saw it on Instagram, and I've been following them 98 00:04:36,610 --> 00:04:38,403 and I'm like, "These guys are fuckin' amazing." 99 00:04:38,445 --> 00:04:40,030 And you see them, you just see everything 100 00:04:40,071 --> 00:04:43,158 and that's all you get to see is positive, positive, positive. 101 00:04:44,075 --> 00:04:46,119 And then it came a time where they put out this thing, 102 00:04:46,161 --> 00:04:47,537 which I'll read in a little bit, 103 00:04:47,537 --> 00:04:49,247 but they put out this little, what do you call it? 104 00:04:49,289 --> 00:04:50,791 -Just a... [stammers] -Statement? 105 00:04:50,832 --> 00:04:52,125 [Jason] A statement, yeah. 106 00:04:52,167 --> 00:04:54,586 [Sam] My band posted something 107 00:04:54,628 --> 00:04:56,922 letting our people that follow us know 108 00:04:56,963 --> 00:04:59,758 why we were gonna be taking a break 109 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,927 and a break that we weren't sure how long. 110 00:05:01,968 --> 00:05:04,429 It could be like a permanent break or... 111 00:05:04,471 --> 00:05:06,973 ♪♪ 112 00:05:21,363 --> 00:05:24,032 ♪♪ 113 00:05:29,788 --> 00:05:31,331 [Jason] They've been doing it for so long 114 00:05:31,373 --> 00:05:32,916 that it's just, they're not making money. 115 00:05:32,957 --> 00:05:34,167 It's just, they tour, and it's just, 116 00:05:34,209 --> 00:05:35,669 it's really, really challenging. 117 00:05:35,710 --> 00:05:37,921 And I was like, "Fuck, they're gonna end." 118 00:05:37,963 --> 00:05:39,339 And I'm like, "No, no, no, no, no!" 119 00:05:39,381 --> 00:05:43,260 So I just, I like sent a-- I sent a DM to them. 120 00:05:43,301 --> 00:05:45,136 I was like, "Hey, can I just talk to you?" 121 00:05:45,178 --> 00:05:46,596 I had a feeling that some-- 122 00:05:46,638 --> 00:05:48,348 Usually when you put out that kinda energy, 123 00:05:48,390 --> 00:05:49,766 like, you-- something returns. 124 00:05:49,808 --> 00:05:51,977 And I had a feeling someone was gonna reach out. 125 00:05:52,018 --> 00:05:54,604 I did not think it was gonna be Jason Momoa. 126 00:05:54,646 --> 00:05:57,107 Um, but, you know, I was like, 127 00:05:57,148 --> 00:05:59,526 "Here's a kind person with a... 128 00:05:59,568 --> 00:06:01,778 who likes our music and wants to help." 129 00:06:01,820 --> 00:06:03,321 Gonna help them make the record 130 00:06:03,363 --> 00:06:06,324 and then we're gonna go fuckin' kick down some doors... 131 00:06:06,366 --> 00:06:08,326 [chuckles] ...get 'em a record deal. 132 00:06:08,368 --> 00:06:10,120 -Just gotta put it out there. -Yeah. 133 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:11,454 And I'm like, "Well, I'm gonna give it my best try," 134 00:06:11,496 --> 00:06:14,332 'cause I just think it's the right thing to do. 135 00:06:17,586 --> 00:06:20,380 [Sam] I've always been the one in the band that's, um... 136 00:06:21,214 --> 00:06:23,466 booking the shows, like, pushing, just-- 137 00:06:23,508 --> 00:06:25,051 We wanna work with this producer. 138 00:06:25,093 --> 00:06:27,762 I'm gonna send him 20 emails until he finally reaches back. 139 00:06:29,764 --> 00:06:31,808 I'd always, like, wanted to play with people, 140 00:06:31,850 --> 00:06:33,351 but I was too scared. 141 00:06:33,393 --> 00:06:34,728 I just, I was-- 142 00:06:34,769 --> 00:06:36,646 I don't know, I was freaked out, too scared. 143 00:06:36,688 --> 00:06:38,231 I thought my ideas weren't good. 144 00:06:38,899 --> 00:06:40,817 ♪♪ 145 00:06:40,859 --> 00:06:44,154 And so it was kinda like chipping away at that fear 146 00:06:44,195 --> 00:06:46,031 and like, just keep-- I kept doing it. 147 00:06:46,531 --> 00:06:47,908 I also read a book called 148 00:06:47,949 --> 00:06:50,159 The Artist's Way by Julia Cameron, 149 00:06:50,201 --> 00:06:51,661 and that totally changed my life. 150 00:06:51,703 --> 00:06:54,372 I just did what she said to do and it was weird. 151 00:06:54,414 --> 00:06:58,209 I finished it and then I met Kendall and Macky, 152 00:06:58,251 --> 00:06:59,878 like, a month later. 153 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:02,172 ♪♪ 154 00:07:02,213 --> 00:07:05,091 We had a couple different guitar players at first, 155 00:07:05,133 --> 00:07:10,096 but it only clicked when Nick, who is Kendall's stepbrother, 156 00:07:10,555 --> 00:07:13,350 he came to our first show and once that happened, 157 00:07:13,391 --> 00:07:16,728 then it was, um, kinda, we all were like, 158 00:07:16,770 --> 00:07:18,188 "This is all we wanna do." 159 00:07:18,229 --> 00:07:20,273 ♪♪ 160 00:07:20,315 --> 00:07:22,567 [Jason] There's so many friends I have that are musicians 161 00:07:22,609 --> 00:07:24,903 that it's just like, I know it's really, really hard, 162 00:07:24,945 --> 00:07:28,073 just like acting is, but, but it makes you wonder, 163 00:07:28,114 --> 00:07:31,034 you know, would Nirvana, like some of these bands, 164 00:07:31,076 --> 00:07:34,037 how would they... how would they make it today? 165 00:07:34,079 --> 00:07:35,288 Bob Dylan, for Christ's sake. 166 00:07:35,330 --> 00:07:36,790 Like, I mean, like, how, how-- 167 00:07:36,831 --> 00:07:38,207 some of your favorites, like, 168 00:07:38,249 --> 00:07:41,211 would they have been what they are 169 00:07:41,252 --> 00:07:42,545 if they came out today? 170 00:07:42,587 --> 00:07:44,547 ♪♪ 171 00:07:44,589 --> 00:07:45,882 [inaudible conversation] 172 00:07:45,924 --> 00:07:47,467 [Jason] And I don't know, 173 00:07:47,968 --> 00:07:49,636 but I feel like something's 174 00:07:49,678 --> 00:07:51,888 gotta give a little bit, you know? 175 00:07:51,930 --> 00:07:54,474 [♪ rhythmic drumming] 176 00:07:56,017 --> 00:07:57,477 [Sam] Is that happening before it's time 177 00:07:57,519 --> 00:07:59,062 to actually do the work, ever? 178 00:07:59,104 --> 00:08:00,438 -[Jason] No, I'm-- -No. You're psyched? 179 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,650 No, I mostly cry. I get really emotional. 180 00:08:03,692 --> 00:08:05,068 -[Sam] Really? -I get really emotional. 181 00:08:05,110 --> 00:08:06,403 I get really fuckin', like... 182 00:08:06,444 --> 00:08:08,113 It makes my guts off-- I'm really emotional. 183 00:08:09,030 --> 00:08:12,450 I get to a place where I wanna go home and get in bed 184 00:08:12,492 --> 00:08:14,119 and cancel the show and not-- 185 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:15,495 That's always-- 186 00:08:15,537 --> 00:08:16,788 And sometimes I get emotional. 187 00:08:16,830 --> 00:08:18,456 Like, "I wish I didn't have to do this, 188 00:08:18,498 --> 00:08:19,749 I wish I didn't have to do this." 189 00:08:19,791 --> 00:08:22,168 And then I pray to all my favorite people 190 00:08:22,210 --> 00:08:24,754 like Little Richard and Bo Diddley, 191 00:08:24,796 --> 00:08:27,298 and I'm like, "Please give me the energy." 192 00:08:27,340 --> 00:08:29,801 [Jason] It was so cool in Woodstock. 193 00:08:29,843 --> 00:08:31,094 I mean, it's the hometown hero. 194 00:08:31,094 --> 00:08:32,595 So, it was just an honor, 195 00:08:32,636 --> 00:08:34,806 and being able to walk around the town with them, 196 00:08:34,847 --> 00:08:37,183 meet their family, it was really cool. 197 00:08:37,225 --> 00:08:38,934 [crowd cheering] 198 00:08:38,977 --> 00:08:41,229 [♪ "Death Train" by The Bobby Lees playing] 199 00:08:46,818 --> 00:08:49,696 ♪ They losin' it, they losin' it ya see ♪ 200 00:08:49,738 --> 00:08:53,450 ♪ Ah, just keep your fingers crossed and watch the TV ♪ 201 00:08:53,450 --> 00:08:56,786 ♪ Ow, now walk in single file, foot by foot you're free ♪ 202 00:08:56,828 --> 00:09:00,832 ♪ Oh, they got 'em all, but they ain't got me ♪ 203 00:09:00,874 --> 00:09:03,376 ♪♪ 204 00:09:06,504 --> 00:09:08,965 ♪ I said, "Shut up and dance" ♪ 205 00:09:09,007 --> 00:09:10,592 [crowd cheering] 206 00:09:19,392 --> 00:09:21,936 [cheering continues] 207 00:09:26,357 --> 00:09:30,028 [♪ "Ragged Way" by The Bobby Lees playing] 208 00:09:34,699 --> 00:09:36,868 ♪ The way you bark and crawl ♪ 209 00:09:36,910 --> 00:09:38,745 ♪ Nothing done the same ♪ 210 00:09:38,787 --> 00:09:40,538 ♪ Hey, forgotten boy ♪ 211 00:09:40,580 --> 00:09:43,208 ♪ I like your ragged way ♪ 212 00:09:44,417 --> 00:09:46,336 [singing continues] 213 00:09:46,377 --> 00:09:48,171 ♪ Forgotten boy ♪ 214 00:09:48,213 --> 00:09:50,215 ♪ I like your ragged way ♪ 215 00:09:50,256 --> 00:09:51,758 ♪ Your ragged ♪ 216 00:09:54,469 --> 00:09:55,887 ♪ Your ragged ♪ 217 00:09:58,765 --> 00:10:00,183 ♪ Your ragged ♪ 218 00:10:00,225 --> 00:10:01,684 [♪ "Ragged Way" fading] 219 00:10:01,726 --> 00:10:03,812 ♪♪ 220 00:10:07,273 --> 00:10:09,734 [inaudible singing] 221 00:10:09,776 --> 00:10:11,778 ♪♪ 222 00:10:28,128 --> 00:10:29,462 [Sam] I always wanted to be in a band. 223 00:10:29,504 --> 00:10:33,133 I had severe fear issues performing. 224 00:10:33,174 --> 00:10:36,052 Like, I fantasized about it 225 00:10:36,094 --> 00:10:39,973 and never could take an action towards doing it. 226 00:10:42,433 --> 00:10:44,769 I... I had a really bad drinking problem 227 00:10:44,811 --> 00:10:50,567 and I got sober and the fear of sucking went away. 228 00:10:50,608 --> 00:10:52,944 The-- The... The desire to do it 229 00:10:52,986 --> 00:10:55,655 became greater than the fear of doing it. 230 00:10:59,534 --> 00:11:02,579 For us, there's never been this normal path. 231 00:11:02,620 --> 00:11:05,623 Like, anything that's happened feels like the universe 232 00:11:05,665 --> 00:11:08,084 just gives us little, like, winks 233 00:11:08,126 --> 00:11:11,921 and good weird shit happens like Jason reaching out. 234 00:11:12,839 --> 00:11:14,340 [Jason] Once you get to meet everyone, like... 235 00:11:14,841 --> 00:11:17,260 Sam's like my, you know, it's family. 236 00:11:17,677 --> 00:11:20,263 She's just such a powerhouse. 237 00:11:20,305 --> 00:11:23,641 Watching her sing, she's just so creative and raw, 238 00:11:23,683 --> 00:11:24,809 at the same time so sensitive. 239 00:11:24,851 --> 00:11:26,603 She's such an artist. 240 00:11:26,603 --> 00:11:31,149 Macky's so, like, just born into this royal family 241 00:11:31,191 --> 00:11:33,693 of just artisans and musicians. 242 00:11:34,277 --> 00:11:37,155 I just think he's, he's something really special. 243 00:11:37,572 --> 00:11:38,781 Kendall's like my sister. 244 00:11:38,823 --> 00:11:40,575 Like, I love this woman so much. 245 00:11:41,492 --> 00:11:43,828 Someone who I look up to. She's like my teacher. 246 00:11:43,870 --> 00:11:45,830 Like, I'll ask her all kinds of stuff. 247 00:11:46,831 --> 00:11:48,499 Nicky, little brother, 248 00:11:48,540 --> 00:11:50,001 he just shreds, picks up anything. 249 00:11:50,543 --> 00:11:52,503 Kind of a wiz with anything. 250 00:11:54,172 --> 00:11:56,299 It's, it's been a long haul. 251 00:11:56,341 --> 00:11:58,259 So, the-- the thought of... 252 00:11:59,510 --> 00:12:02,597 maybe not doing it again, um... 253 00:12:04,015 --> 00:12:07,185 is, is definitely affected me, um... 254 00:12:07,227 --> 00:12:11,064 [crowd cheering and applauding] 255 00:12:28,373 --> 00:12:30,041 -[Sam speaking softly] -[Nick] What? 256 00:12:31,584 --> 00:12:33,753 Hey, you killed it, first of all. 257 00:12:33,795 --> 00:12:35,129 And second-- 258 00:12:37,715 --> 00:12:39,550 ♪♪ 259 00:12:39,592 --> 00:12:41,052 [whispering] 260 00:12:44,138 --> 00:12:45,682 [Sam] I need music to get me up. 261 00:12:45,723 --> 00:12:49,102 That's-- Like, I can't take, like, a pill or whatever. 262 00:12:49,143 --> 00:12:51,020 I listen to a song and I'm just-- 263 00:12:51,062 --> 00:12:53,022 It-- It-- It's magic. 264 00:12:53,064 --> 00:12:56,109 Like, I-- It totally can change my mood. 265 00:12:56,150 --> 00:12:57,527 It's-- It's-- 266 00:12:57,568 --> 00:12:58,861 So, yeah, to not-- 267 00:12:58,903 --> 00:13:00,697 To say that that has no value anymore, 268 00:13:00,738 --> 00:13:03,866 that feels like... it's sad. 269 00:13:03,908 --> 00:13:05,868 [chuckles] It's really fucked up, so... 270 00:13:05,910 --> 00:13:07,912 ♪♪ 271 00:13:09,914 --> 00:13:11,749 Jason basically was like, 272 00:13:11,791 --> 00:13:13,918 "Uh, how can I help? 273 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,379 What, what does a band like you need?" 274 00:13:16,421 --> 00:13:17,839 I said, "I don't know." 275 00:13:19,132 --> 00:13:21,134 From where we sat, we thought, 276 00:13:21,175 --> 00:13:22,885 "Oh, I guess you need a major label deal." 277 00:13:22,927 --> 00:13:24,554 And I said, "Yeah, I think that helps 278 00:13:24,595 --> 00:13:27,890 because they get it out to more people." 279 00:13:27,932 --> 00:13:29,892 He came on the phone like a superhero 280 00:13:29,934 --> 00:13:32,061 and was like, "I'm gonna try it all. 281 00:13:32,103 --> 00:13:35,648 I'm gonna, you know, try to-- try to do it all." 282 00:13:35,690 --> 00:13:37,442 It felt like an adventure 283 00:13:37,483 --> 00:13:40,069 from when he called, till now, of, 284 00:13:40,445 --> 00:13:42,613 okay, let's see what happens. 285 00:13:45,700 --> 00:13:49,287 [♪ "Coin" by The Bobby Lees playing] 286 00:13:57,003 --> 00:13:58,338 [inaudible] 287 00:14:11,976 --> 00:14:13,644 This is amazing. 288 00:14:14,479 --> 00:14:17,106 [Sam] I feel like I'm selling Girl Scout Cookies. 289 00:14:17,148 --> 00:14:18,775 [laughter] 290 00:14:18,816 --> 00:14:20,777 When Jason brought us into Atlantic, 291 00:14:20,818 --> 00:14:23,112 part of me was super excited 292 00:14:23,154 --> 00:14:26,449 because we'd never had access to a major label before. 293 00:14:26,491 --> 00:14:29,369 But also he had me read the letter and I was like, 294 00:14:29,410 --> 00:14:31,037 "This is weird" because it's not like 295 00:14:31,079 --> 00:14:32,955 I'm gonna touch him by reading this letter, 296 00:14:32,997 --> 00:14:35,708 something's gonna click, like, raise the Spotify rate. 297 00:14:37,001 --> 00:14:39,837 The reason that the major label acts can sustain 298 00:14:39,879 --> 00:14:42,465 is because they have private deals with Spotify. 299 00:14:42,507 --> 00:14:45,301 Whereas anyone that's not on a major, like us, 300 00:14:45,343 --> 00:14:47,929 they pay you $0.004 a play. 301 00:14:52,558 --> 00:14:54,143 I think the unfortunate thing, 302 00:14:54,185 --> 00:14:57,397 what we've seen is, if people have the option to not pay, 303 00:14:57,438 --> 00:14:59,107 they're not going to pay. 304 00:14:59,357 --> 00:15:00,733 I've thought a lot about it. 305 00:15:00,775 --> 00:15:02,485 I've talked to a lot of bands on the road about it, 306 00:15:02,485 --> 00:15:03,820 and it feels like the crux of the issue 307 00:15:03,861 --> 00:15:06,823 is that there just-- the value isn't there. 308 00:15:06,864 --> 00:15:08,783 So any kid growing up right now, 309 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,911 they don't think it's worth anything 'cause it's free. 310 00:15:12,578 --> 00:15:15,706 [Jason] I would have liked things to have went a certain way. 311 00:15:15,748 --> 00:15:17,917 But, yeah, like, I still had hopes for it. 312 00:15:17,959 --> 00:15:19,419 I still had the energy. 313 00:15:19,460 --> 00:15:21,212 Obviously, the band probably felt a little different. 314 00:15:21,254 --> 00:15:23,506 They were maybe like, it couldn't happen, 315 00:15:23,548 --> 00:15:24,757 but I, I don't know. I-- 316 00:15:24,799 --> 00:15:27,510 I've had the door shut on me 317 00:15:27,552 --> 00:15:29,345 and fell into so many holes. 318 00:15:29,387 --> 00:15:31,013 I had to dig myself out of 'em 319 00:15:31,013 --> 00:15:33,850 that I just feel like I'm not gonna take no for an answer. 320 00:15:33,850 --> 00:15:36,018 And let's just-- You know, talent is talent, 321 00:15:36,060 --> 00:15:37,520 and they got it. 322 00:15:37,562 --> 00:15:39,564 And I feel like you just gotta find the right people. 323 00:15:39,605 --> 00:15:41,774 When we play, it feels really good, still. 324 00:15:41,816 --> 00:15:43,025 I mean, when you hear people, 325 00:15:43,067 --> 00:15:45,194 like, singing your words back to you, 326 00:15:45,236 --> 00:15:47,488 hopefully your music's, like, helping them. 327 00:15:48,614 --> 00:15:50,032 Something is clearly wrong, 328 00:15:50,074 --> 00:15:51,742 if you're selling out shows, 329 00:15:51,784 --> 00:15:53,786 like 500-cap rooms in New York and LA 330 00:15:53,828 --> 00:15:55,079 and touring the world, 331 00:15:55,121 --> 00:15:56,873 and how are you not able 332 00:15:56,914 --> 00:15:59,750 to make like a minimum wage living or sustain. 333 00:16:00,585 --> 00:16:01,878 For Bellevue, for instance, 334 00:16:01,919 --> 00:16:03,880 like, we toured that record for 18 months. 335 00:16:03,921 --> 00:16:05,131 We had a million plays. 336 00:16:05,173 --> 00:16:08,801 We made $4,000 from touring it for 18 months. 337 00:16:10,511 --> 00:16:12,555 You know, no one wants to work for free at this point. 338 00:16:12,555 --> 00:16:14,807 It feels like, I hate to use the word "disrespectful," 339 00:16:14,849 --> 00:16:16,767 but I feel like at a certain point 340 00:16:16,809 --> 00:16:18,394 when you're grinding it out and you're touring, 341 00:16:18,436 --> 00:16:20,229 you're like, "This feels wrong." 342 00:16:20,271 --> 00:16:22,273 Like, I'm giving this much. 343 00:16:22,315 --> 00:16:24,108 I feel so depleted. 344 00:16:25,651 --> 00:16:27,236 I feel like a lot of people feel this, 345 00:16:27,278 --> 00:16:29,071 like deep yearning for something 346 00:16:29,113 --> 00:16:30,406 that they think is their purpose, 347 00:16:30,448 --> 00:16:32,492 that they really want this kind of like, 348 00:16:32,533 --> 00:16:33,951 "I have to have it." 349 00:16:34,535 --> 00:16:35,912 I don't feel that way anymore, 350 00:16:35,953 --> 00:16:39,415 which is kind of really nice because it got painful, 351 00:16:39,457 --> 00:16:42,960 like, wanting the band to be, um, successful, wanting... 352 00:16:43,461 --> 00:16:46,839 And now I just feel kinda like it's kinda out of our hands. 353 00:16:46,881 --> 00:16:48,466 I mean, we show up, we play every show 354 00:16:48,508 --> 00:16:50,468 like it's our last show. 355 00:16:50,968 --> 00:16:53,971 We need a shift where, like... 356 00:16:54,555 --> 00:16:57,308 yeah, it's just, it's too much of a grind. 357 00:16:58,809 --> 00:17:00,811 We just have to stop for a while 358 00:17:00,853 --> 00:17:02,188 and we're not sure if we're gonna be back. 359 00:17:02,230 --> 00:17:04,022 ♪♪ 360 00:17:04,065 --> 00:17:06,067 [inaudible conversation] 361 00:17:08,277 --> 00:17:11,113 [Sam] I don't know, I-I... My gut says it's not 362 00:17:11,155 --> 00:17:14,659 a never-doing-it-again thing, but I have no idea. 363 00:17:14,700 --> 00:17:16,661 I, really-- It's kind of liberating 364 00:17:16,702 --> 00:17:18,287 to have no fucking clue. 365 00:17:18,329 --> 00:17:19,955 ♪♪ 366 00:17:19,997 --> 00:17:21,165 [Jason] I know that feeling. 367 00:17:21,207 --> 00:17:23,125 I work a lot and, and, uh... 368 00:17:23,166 --> 00:17:25,795 you definitely can be drained 369 00:17:25,836 --> 00:17:28,089 and you don't get the best of you. 370 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,133 I think they were like, 371 00:17:31,175 --> 00:17:33,844 "Alright, we need, like, some time." 372 00:17:33,886 --> 00:17:35,513 And I think everyone just had to like, 373 00:17:35,555 --> 00:17:37,390 step away from everything for a while. 374 00:17:37,431 --> 00:17:40,184 [indistinct chatter] 375 00:17:49,068 --> 00:17:51,862 ♪♪ 376 00:17:55,116 --> 00:17:57,702 [♪ rock music playing] 377 00:18:13,759 --> 00:18:17,054 [Macky Bowman] I don't remember how to play it really, I think. 378 00:18:17,096 --> 00:18:18,097 Yeah, you do. 379 00:18:18,139 --> 00:18:19,682 This is how I bring songs, too. 380 00:18:19,724 --> 00:18:21,851 I'm like, I think it's these three chords, and then... 381 00:18:21,892 --> 00:18:23,185 [Kendall laughs] 382 00:18:23,227 --> 00:18:24,353 [indistinct chatter] 383 00:18:24,395 --> 00:18:26,731 [♪ gentle guitar music playing] 384 00:18:42,997 --> 00:18:45,499 [♪ bass guitar swells] 385 00:18:49,837 --> 00:18:50,880 [high-pitched scatting] 386 00:18:50,921 --> 00:18:51,922 Yeah! [laughs] 387 00:18:52,423 --> 00:18:53,799 I'll do it again. I'm getting it. 388 00:18:53,841 --> 00:18:55,426 [♪ rock music playing] 389 00:18:58,262 --> 00:18:59,555 [Jason] Watching them write on the spot, 390 00:18:59,597 --> 00:19:01,474 watching them be, you know, like-- 391 00:19:01,515 --> 00:19:03,559 just watching the song come together... 392 00:19:03,601 --> 00:19:05,770 [♪ music continues] 393 00:19:05,811 --> 00:19:07,813 You know, like, everything had changed. 394 00:19:08,272 --> 00:19:10,399 They're coming back. They had rest. 395 00:19:10,399 --> 00:19:13,402 Some of the band members went out and toured for a little bit. 396 00:19:13,402 --> 00:19:16,739 They came back with songs, and we got into the studio. 397 00:19:16,781 --> 00:19:18,240 It was lightning in a bottle. 398 00:19:18,282 --> 00:19:20,660 [♪ music intensifies] 399 00:19:25,331 --> 00:19:27,416 That was a beautiful part of this journey 400 00:19:27,458 --> 00:19:29,001 together to be with them and, like, 401 00:19:29,043 --> 00:19:32,254 watch it just kind of go, "Alright, we're doing this." 402 00:19:32,296 --> 00:19:33,839 [♪ music continues] 403 00:19:33,881 --> 00:19:36,258 That little bit of time off, when I came back, 404 00:19:36,300 --> 00:19:38,094 yeah, they were, like, ready to rock. 405 00:19:38,135 --> 00:19:39,136 They were ready to go. 406 00:19:39,178 --> 00:19:41,222 [♪ music continues] 407 00:19:49,980 --> 00:19:51,440 Something like that. That's cool. 408 00:19:51,482 --> 00:19:53,693 -A little faster... -[Jason laughs] 409 00:19:53,734 --> 00:19:55,653 [Jason] That was awesome. 410 00:19:56,237 --> 00:19:57,530 That was awesome! 411 00:19:57,571 --> 00:19:59,824 ♪♪ 412 00:20:18,050 --> 00:20:19,301 Um... 413 00:20:20,344 --> 00:20:22,346 -What's up, everybody? [laughs] -[Macky] What's going on? 414 00:20:22,388 --> 00:20:24,306 It's been a year. It's been a year, right? 415 00:20:24,348 --> 00:20:25,641 -Since I've seen you guys. -Almost. 416 00:20:25,683 --> 00:20:27,143 -Yeah. -[Jason] Almost a year. 417 00:20:27,184 --> 00:20:29,979 -Uh-huh. -And I'm just curious to know 418 00:20:30,020 --> 00:20:33,983 where everyone is... with their lives right now. 419 00:20:34,024 --> 00:20:35,526 How you feeling? 420 00:20:35,568 --> 00:20:37,486 And, yeah, just kinda what's going on. 421 00:20:37,528 --> 00:20:39,029 I just wanna hear from each one of you and like, 422 00:20:39,071 --> 00:20:40,740 and also like getting back together 'cause you guys 423 00:20:40,781 --> 00:20:42,992 probably haven't seen each other in a year, too. 424 00:20:42,992 --> 00:20:46,328 -Yeah. -We got back a month ago. 425 00:20:46,871 --> 00:20:48,581 And we said, "Let's start writing," 426 00:20:48,622 --> 00:20:52,001 because of your generosity and, um, 427 00:20:52,042 --> 00:20:54,044 this opportunity to make another record. 428 00:20:54,086 --> 00:20:56,005 And it was weird 'cause we got together 429 00:20:56,046 --> 00:21:00,676 and in two weeks wrote, like, 14 songs, which was more-- 430 00:21:00,718 --> 00:21:03,179 We usually take a little more time than that. 431 00:21:03,220 --> 00:21:06,182 We usually take a month to write five songs. 432 00:21:06,390 --> 00:21:08,768 So, it was, I think-- I don't know. 433 00:21:08,809 --> 00:21:11,187 I think we had something to get out of us. 434 00:21:11,228 --> 00:21:13,355 We had, you know, had to come out. 435 00:21:13,397 --> 00:21:14,440 [Macky] Yes. 436 00:21:14,482 --> 00:21:15,900 I think we're excited to do 437 00:21:15,941 --> 00:21:18,360 some things differently, you know? 438 00:21:19,111 --> 00:21:20,696 I think that-- I think, like, because we were like 439 00:21:20,738 --> 00:21:22,865 laughing a lot in the rehearsals. 440 00:21:22,907 --> 00:21:24,909 And I think it's just because, like, we were letting ourselves 441 00:21:24,950 --> 00:21:27,369 just do things that we wouldn't normally do. 442 00:21:27,369 --> 00:21:31,207 And it was nice to, like, just be free in that way. 443 00:21:31,248 --> 00:21:33,250 So, I think everybody's excited for that. 444 00:21:35,586 --> 00:21:38,088 ♪♪ 445 00:21:38,881 --> 00:21:41,759 [Nick] The fact that it was-- it's been a year pretty much 446 00:21:41,801 --> 00:21:45,054 since we were in Woodstock, it's incre-- 447 00:21:45,095 --> 00:21:48,599 Like, I can't even believe how fast time flew by. 448 00:21:50,601 --> 00:21:53,145 Yeah, over the past year, it's been crazy. 449 00:21:53,187 --> 00:21:56,273 It's been a lot of doubt. It's been a lot of hope. 450 00:21:56,774 --> 00:21:58,901 [Kendall Wind] Dealing with, you know, taking a break, 451 00:21:58,943 --> 00:22:01,570 and, like, it was very emotional 452 00:22:01,612 --> 00:22:03,572 and it felt like a grieving process. 453 00:22:03,614 --> 00:22:06,450 Um, it kinda felt like a breakup or something, 454 00:22:06,492 --> 00:22:08,244 and it was really strange. 455 00:22:08,953 --> 00:22:10,663 Like, I actually kinda feel like 456 00:22:10,704 --> 00:22:13,582 I was a kid when, you know, we took a break 457 00:22:13,624 --> 00:22:15,292 and I feel like I'm an adult now. 458 00:22:16,961 --> 00:22:19,755 I quickly realized over this last year 459 00:22:19,797 --> 00:22:21,674 that this band means so much to me. 460 00:22:23,133 --> 00:22:25,010 It's like always gonna be a huge part of me. 461 00:22:25,052 --> 00:22:27,304 But it was nice to actually get the chance 462 00:22:27,346 --> 00:22:30,432 to realize that there's a whole world outside of it. 463 00:22:30,474 --> 00:22:32,643 ♪♪ 464 00:22:33,227 --> 00:22:35,980 It's like a relationship, being in a band where it's like, 465 00:22:36,021 --> 00:22:37,690 you lose yourself in it, you know what I mean? 466 00:22:37,731 --> 00:22:40,442 You forget what you know you are 467 00:22:40,484 --> 00:22:42,111 as an individual outside of it. 468 00:22:42,152 --> 00:22:44,446 So, I think getting-- getting this year away 469 00:22:44,488 --> 00:22:48,284 has helped me kind of remember why I like to make stuff. 470 00:22:48,325 --> 00:22:51,495 [inaudible] 471 00:22:51,537 --> 00:22:54,123 [Sam] During the time off, I did have time to-- 472 00:22:54,164 --> 00:22:58,294 There were some moments of like, "Can I be okay without this?" 473 00:22:58,335 --> 00:23:02,298 And I can't, I have to be making something. 474 00:23:02,339 --> 00:23:07,261 I get very depressed if I'm just consuming other people's work. 475 00:23:09,597 --> 00:23:11,140 [Jason] I'm driven by music. 476 00:23:11,140 --> 00:23:13,517 I mean, that's like, that's the ultimate art form for me. 477 00:23:13,559 --> 00:23:14,977 Like, that's what I write to. 478 00:23:15,019 --> 00:23:16,645 That's what I, like, I use to inspire me 479 00:23:16,687 --> 00:23:18,063 in every shape or form. 480 00:23:18,105 --> 00:23:20,024 Like, I love music. 481 00:23:21,233 --> 00:23:22,484 I just had this idea, like, 482 00:23:22,526 --> 00:23:24,153 just talking to them, going like, 483 00:23:24,194 --> 00:23:27,239 well, like, "Can you just do it one more time? 484 00:23:27,281 --> 00:23:29,366 "Like, just let's take one more shot at it. 485 00:23:29,408 --> 00:23:30,743 "I really wanna help support, 486 00:23:30,784 --> 00:23:32,244 "I don't know much about the industry, 487 00:23:32,286 --> 00:23:33,746 "but I think maybe I could open some doors 488 00:23:33,787 --> 00:23:35,873 "or maybe some people you can produce with. 489 00:23:36,457 --> 00:23:37,833 Would you guys do another album?" 490 00:23:37,875 --> 00:23:39,126 And they entertained it. 491 00:23:40,961 --> 00:23:42,671 When they said yes, they wanna do it, 492 00:23:42,713 --> 00:23:44,089 I was gonna back it to the end 493 00:23:44,131 --> 00:23:46,550 because I just believe in this, and I believe in them. 494 00:23:46,592 --> 00:23:49,386 -[indistinct chatter] -[♪ faint guitar strumming] 495 00:23:49,428 --> 00:23:52,598 [chatter continues] 496 00:23:53,974 --> 00:23:55,351 [speaker] Where are we? 497 00:23:55,392 --> 00:23:57,394 Los Angeles, California. 498 00:23:57,436 --> 00:23:59,939 [speaker] What are you guys hoping to get out of this? 499 00:23:59,980 --> 00:24:02,650 Songs. Good ones, hopefully. 500 00:24:03,484 --> 00:24:04,944 A record we're proud of. 501 00:24:04,985 --> 00:24:06,695 [speaker] Do you guys have-- Do you ever have, like, 502 00:24:06,737 --> 00:24:08,697 any sort of, um... 503 00:24:08,697 --> 00:24:11,450 nerves going into, into the recording? 504 00:24:11,492 --> 00:24:14,078 Today, I feel nothing, but three-- three days ago 505 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,913 when we first got here, I didn't sleep 506 00:24:15,955 --> 00:24:18,874 and I was very-- just going through the worst scenario. 507 00:24:18,916 --> 00:24:20,626 Like, we get there, all the songs suck. 508 00:24:20,668 --> 00:24:21,752 This is-- Yeah. 509 00:24:21,794 --> 00:24:24,880 So I-- I had my fearful time. 510 00:24:24,922 --> 00:24:27,383 And now I feel Zen and ready to just, 511 00:24:27,424 --> 00:24:30,386 just do the, just do the work. 512 00:24:30,761 --> 00:24:32,805 Me too, just calm. 513 00:24:32,846 --> 00:24:34,807 [Sam] Did you have a spike of-- 514 00:24:35,307 --> 00:24:39,728 I think I was a little nervous, like flying out, you know? 515 00:24:39,770 --> 00:24:41,897 Just, I don't know, just like a little, like, 516 00:24:41,939 --> 00:24:44,984 just I have absolutely no idea what to expect, but... 517 00:24:45,025 --> 00:24:46,652 ♪♪ 518 00:24:47,987 --> 00:24:48,988 [indistinct chatter] 519 00:24:53,409 --> 00:24:55,619 -[speaker] I can hop on the-- -[Kendall] Might as well get it. 520 00:24:55,661 --> 00:24:56,662 [speaker] Yeah, yeah. Great. 521 00:24:56,704 --> 00:24:58,622 -I also had an idea. -[Sam] Yeah? 522 00:24:58,664 --> 00:25:01,166 -If we echoed the end to it. -Like... 523 00:25:01,208 --> 00:25:02,835 ♪ This is some Elvis Presley shit ♪ 524 00:25:02,876 --> 00:25:04,253 ♪ And I'm putting an end to it ♪ 525 00:25:04,294 --> 00:25:05,838 [both] ♪ End to it! ♪ 526 00:25:05,879 --> 00:25:07,006 -[Sam] Sure. -[Kendall] Just to see. 527 00:25:07,047 --> 00:25:08,465 -Let's try it. -[Kendall] Okay. 528 00:25:09,466 --> 00:25:11,135 ♪ This is the end! ♪ 529 00:25:12,970 --> 00:25:14,471 ♪ End to it! ♪ 530 00:25:16,306 --> 00:25:18,434 [Sam] Do you think we need another pass at those or we got it? 531 00:25:18,434 --> 00:25:19,810 -[speaker] I think we got it. -[Sam] We got it. 532 00:25:19,852 --> 00:25:21,103 [♪ rock music playing] 533 00:25:21,103 --> 00:25:22,646 ♪ This is some Elvis Presley shit ♪ 534 00:25:22,688 --> 00:25:24,481 ♪ And I'm putting an end to it ♪ 535 00:25:24,523 --> 00:25:25,649 ♪ End to it ♪ 536 00:25:25,691 --> 00:25:27,693 [indistinct singing] 537 00:25:30,154 --> 00:25:31,447 ♪ The end ♪ 538 00:25:31,488 --> 00:25:34,158 [♪ music continues] 539 00:25:46,336 --> 00:25:48,047 [Kendall] You can definitely feel 540 00:25:48,088 --> 00:25:49,631 whether an energy is good or bad, 541 00:25:49,673 --> 00:25:51,717 almost immediately, we find. 542 00:25:51,759 --> 00:25:54,344 The moment we walked in there, we were like, "This is great. 543 00:25:54,386 --> 00:25:57,097 This is, this is gonna be perfect for us." 544 00:25:57,806 --> 00:25:59,391 [Nick] We've been recording at Sunset Sound, 545 00:25:59,433 --> 00:26:01,643 legendary studio. 546 00:26:01,685 --> 00:26:03,479 LED Zeppelin did Zeppelin IV. 547 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,023 I think the Stones did Let It Bleed there. 548 00:26:06,065 --> 00:26:08,692 Uh, some Van Halen albums were done. 549 00:26:10,194 --> 00:26:13,864 Coming out here to California to a record a record 550 00:26:13,906 --> 00:26:16,492 and you just feel-- It feels really good, you know? 551 00:26:16,533 --> 00:26:18,035 ♪♪ 552 00:26:18,077 --> 00:26:20,079 Alex and Dave, um, just like 553 00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:22,664 their, their ability to just hear a part 554 00:26:22,706 --> 00:26:24,500 and be like, "Why don't we try this?" 555 00:26:24,541 --> 00:26:26,502 And they throw out an idea and it's like, 556 00:26:26,543 --> 00:26:28,378 "Oh, where was this the whole time?" I mean... 557 00:26:29,713 --> 00:26:31,882 [Sam] We're trying not to, like, judge anything now. 558 00:26:32,382 --> 00:26:33,717 I think we used to do that in the past 559 00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:35,344 where even if we were writing, 560 00:26:35,385 --> 00:26:37,679 the basic track wasn't good. 561 00:26:37,721 --> 00:26:40,015 Now we're just, we're getting the whole thing done, 562 00:26:40,057 --> 00:26:41,683 and then maybe in a month, you know, 563 00:26:41,725 --> 00:26:43,018 that's when we'll like, assess. 564 00:26:43,060 --> 00:26:45,437 ♪♪ 565 00:26:47,815 --> 00:26:50,067 [Nick] Every song so far we've tracked, 566 00:26:50,109 --> 00:26:52,444 like, when we go back and listen 567 00:26:52,486 --> 00:26:54,780 in the control room, you know, 568 00:26:54,822 --> 00:26:57,533 I know I'm doing this the whole time. 569 00:26:57,574 --> 00:26:59,076 My head is nodding, my eyes are closed, 570 00:26:59,118 --> 00:27:00,202 and then I look around 571 00:27:00,244 --> 00:27:02,871 and everyone else is right there. 572 00:27:02,871 --> 00:27:05,624 [Sam] We were getting kinda bored of just garage rock sounds. 573 00:27:05,666 --> 00:27:07,876 And we-- I listen to a lot of hip-hop stuff 574 00:27:07,918 --> 00:27:11,713 and I really wanted that undeniable head nod feeling, 575 00:27:11,755 --> 00:27:13,715 and I think we achieved that for a few songs. 576 00:27:14,424 --> 00:27:18,137 It's like a wave of emotion where it's-- 577 00:27:18,178 --> 00:27:20,097 I mean, just-- we've been there four days 578 00:27:20,139 --> 00:27:22,224 and I've gone through being, like, 579 00:27:22,266 --> 00:27:25,561 "Wow, this is great," to existential crisis. 580 00:27:25,602 --> 00:27:28,647 [chuckles] I go through it all and I've been told, um, 581 00:27:28,689 --> 00:27:30,899 not to judge the work, just do it, 582 00:27:30,941 --> 00:27:32,568 so I just do it. 583 00:27:32,609 --> 00:27:35,112 [♪ rock music playing] 584 00:27:42,286 --> 00:27:44,580 [indistinct singing] 585 00:27:45,455 --> 00:27:47,791 [Macky] I'm a really big fan of Dave's, personally, 586 00:27:47,833 --> 00:27:50,085 one of his kind of breakthrough albums as a producer 587 00:27:50,127 --> 00:27:52,004 was this album by the band Wolfmother, 588 00:27:52,045 --> 00:27:55,465 which I remember I listened to nonstop when I was... 589 00:27:55,507 --> 00:27:57,259 [laughs] ...five. 590 00:27:57,301 --> 00:27:59,553 -[singing continues] -[♪ music continues] 591 00:28:05,976 --> 00:28:07,769 [indistinct chatter] 592 00:28:07,811 --> 00:28:09,438 [speaker] That's the second time you sang that. 593 00:28:09,479 --> 00:28:11,106 I mean, it is, though. 594 00:28:11,148 --> 00:28:13,233 [singing continues] 595 00:28:22,868 --> 00:28:24,453 [Nick] It's been a really relieving process. 596 00:28:24,494 --> 00:28:26,955 It's always good when you have producers and engineers 597 00:28:26,955 --> 00:28:29,875 who are like, really good at backing you up 598 00:28:29,917 --> 00:28:33,879 and making you feel confident about your parts and, um-- 599 00:28:33,921 --> 00:28:35,839 Yeah, it's been a really, really, really great experience 600 00:28:35,881 --> 00:28:37,507 for everybody, I think. 601 00:28:37,549 --> 00:28:39,426 -[♪ rock music playing] -[indistinct singing] 602 00:28:48,936 --> 00:28:51,396 [inaudible] 603 00:28:52,940 --> 00:28:54,149 -[♪ music ends] -Awesome. 604 00:28:54,191 --> 00:28:56,526 -Oh, it's so fuckin' good. -[laughs] 605 00:28:56,568 --> 00:28:58,153 [Sam] This is our fourth time in the studio, 606 00:28:58,195 --> 00:29:01,531 so we know-- I can look at Macky or Nick or Kendall, 607 00:29:01,573 --> 00:29:02,658 we know when it's working. 608 00:29:02,699 --> 00:29:04,159 We know when it's not. 609 00:29:04,201 --> 00:29:05,702 You feel it. It's like a feel. 610 00:29:07,663 --> 00:29:11,667 I think the-- I think, uh, the drums should be tighter, 611 00:29:11,708 --> 00:29:13,335 like, um, less cymbally. 612 00:29:13,377 --> 00:29:14,753 -[Sam] Yeah, I agree. -[Nick] Sure. 613 00:29:14,795 --> 00:29:17,172 [Kendall] Like, it should just be really like, pah! 614 00:29:17,214 --> 00:29:18,715 -Yeah. -[Macky] Less chemical. 615 00:29:18,757 --> 00:29:21,677 The last couple were feeling good 616 00:29:21,718 --> 00:29:24,179 and then it-- it got complicated again, right? 617 00:29:24,221 --> 00:29:26,515 [Kendall] It's just really cool to see how we're, like, 618 00:29:26,556 --> 00:29:29,768 growing, I think, together as musicians. 619 00:29:32,562 --> 00:29:34,731 ♪ No rings, just young-- ♪ 620 00:29:36,316 --> 00:29:37,567 Come on! 621 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,697 -Come on. -Thank you. 622 00:29:41,697 --> 00:29:43,949 [speaker] Yeah, right. Where do you want-- 623 00:29:43,991 --> 00:29:45,367 [Sam] There's still a lot going on. 624 00:29:45,409 --> 00:29:47,577 -Um, let's start on... -[♪ guitar chords strumming] 625 00:29:49,162 --> 00:29:51,373 -Let's fix one vocal thing. -[speaker] Okay. 626 00:29:51,373 --> 00:29:55,252 -I wanted to comp, um... -[speaker] Dance? 627 00:29:55,294 --> 00:29:57,254 [Sam] "...girl" right before the bridge comes. 628 00:29:57,296 --> 00:29:58,964 [Sam] [singing] ♪ And when you fly around the world ♪ 629 00:29:59,006 --> 00:30:00,424 ♪ Call me your fire-starting... ♪ 630 00:30:00,465 --> 00:30:02,050 I wanted to punch it right. 631 00:30:02,092 --> 00:30:03,593 [on record] ♪ And when you fly around the world ♪ 632 00:30:03,635 --> 00:30:06,179 ♪ Call me your fire-starting girl ♪ 633 00:30:06,930 --> 00:30:08,265 [speaker] Different girl? 634 00:30:08,307 --> 00:30:10,392 [Sam] Yeah. And come in, "girl" 635 00:30:10,434 --> 00:30:12,394 right when he hits the... krrr. 636 00:30:12,436 --> 00:30:14,688 ♪ Call me your fire-starting girl ♪ 637 00:30:15,439 --> 00:30:16,732 [singer yells] 638 00:30:16,773 --> 00:30:18,942 [singer] Krrr! 639 00:30:18,984 --> 00:30:21,695 [scatting] 640 00:30:23,864 --> 00:30:25,490 ♪ Dance! ♪ 641 00:30:27,284 --> 00:30:28,285 ♪ Dance ♪ 642 00:30:29,619 --> 00:30:31,246 ♪ Dance! ♪ 643 00:30:31,288 --> 00:30:33,081 [scatting] 644 00:30:33,123 --> 00:30:35,083 ♪♪ 645 00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:42,424 ♪ And when you fly around the world ♪ 646 00:30:42,466 --> 00:30:44,634 ♪ Call me your fire-starting girl ♪ 647 00:30:46,219 --> 00:30:48,096 [Jason] The last time I saw you, you were pregnant. 648 00:30:48,138 --> 00:30:49,765 How you were preggers-- How much-- 649 00:30:49,806 --> 00:30:51,850 You were, like, six months, maybe? 650 00:30:51,892 --> 00:30:53,435 When, when we filmed the first-- 651 00:30:53,477 --> 00:30:55,103 -[Jason] Yeah, when we filmed-- -In Woodstock? 652 00:30:55,145 --> 00:30:56,438 [Jason] Yeah. No, you were like-- 653 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:57,773 -I was like, four months. -[Jason] Four months. 654 00:30:57,814 --> 00:30:58,982 And then when we did the record, 655 00:30:59,024 --> 00:31:01,276 I was... eight months? 656 00:31:01,318 --> 00:31:03,153 -[Macky] It was... crazy. -It was close. 657 00:31:03,195 --> 00:31:04,321 [Macky] It was-- I think it was-- 658 00:31:04,363 --> 00:31:06,365 -And now Ozzy's-- -[Sam] And now Ozzy's... 659 00:31:06,406 --> 00:31:08,492 -Two and a half. -...two and a half months. 660 00:31:09,534 --> 00:31:12,329 -We've known each other for a year and a half now, right? -Yeah. 661 00:31:12,662 --> 00:31:14,498 November 9th, we were all here-- 662 00:31:14,539 --> 00:31:16,124 It was crazy enough. Called them up here. 663 00:31:16,166 --> 00:31:20,504 We'd been chatting on Instagram and lured them over here. 664 00:31:20,545 --> 00:31:22,130 They're like, "What the fuck are we getting into?" 665 00:31:22,172 --> 00:31:24,549 I was wearing the same jacket that day as I'm wearing today. 666 00:31:24,591 --> 00:31:25,967 -[laughter] -I just wanted to have that-- 667 00:31:26,009 --> 00:31:27,177 You were supposed to do that, right? 668 00:31:27,219 --> 00:31:28,303 Yeah. 669 00:31:28,345 --> 00:31:30,305 -Um-- Alright. -Full circle. 670 00:31:30,347 --> 00:31:32,015 But, yeah, let's-let's-let's play it. 671 00:31:32,057 --> 00:31:33,308 What are we playing it on? 672 00:31:33,350 --> 00:31:35,060 Are we like picking? Do you have a favorite? 673 00:31:35,102 --> 00:31:36,978 I didn't want to listen to anything until I was with you. 674 00:31:37,020 --> 00:31:38,313 I've only heard one fuckin' song. 675 00:31:38,355 --> 00:31:39,815 -[Sam] Are you serious? -I just wanna-- 676 00:31:39,856 --> 00:31:41,691 This is all new 'cause I wanted to wait till I was with you. 677 00:31:41,733 --> 00:31:42,734 -[Sam] Oh. -Oh, wow. 678 00:31:42,776 --> 00:31:43,819 Have you heard "50 Ft"? 679 00:31:43,860 --> 00:31:44,820 I haven't heard nothing. 680 00:31:44,861 --> 00:31:46,196 -[Macky] Oh, dude. Oh, wow. -Oh. 681 00:31:46,238 --> 00:31:48,073 -[Macky] That shit spanks. -That's my favorite. 682 00:31:48,115 --> 00:31:49,324 [Jason] That's why I wanted-- 683 00:31:49,366 --> 00:31:50,826 That song to me was worth the entire trip. 684 00:31:50,867 --> 00:31:52,077 [Macky] I agree. I agree-- 685 00:31:52,119 --> 00:31:53,912 Like, it-- That's my favorite. 686 00:31:53,954 --> 00:31:55,747 And I'm so grateful we got to make it. 687 00:31:55,789 --> 00:31:57,958 [♪ "50 Ft" by The Bobby Lees playing] 688 00:32:04,881 --> 00:32:07,259 ♪ Hey, I'm one big queen ♪ 689 00:32:07,300 --> 00:32:09,261 ♪ Nothing can stop me ♪ 690 00:32:09,302 --> 00:32:11,012 ♪ Red light, red, green ♪ 691 00:32:11,054 --> 00:32:13,390 ♪ I sat back I'm watchin'... ♪ 692 00:32:14,057 --> 00:32:15,225 [inaudible] 693 00:32:15,267 --> 00:32:17,185 ♪ ...second to no one ♪ 694 00:32:17,227 --> 00:32:19,104 ♪ No sweat, I'm clean ♪ 695 00:32:19,146 --> 00:32:22,357 ♪ Nothing can touch me ♪ 696 00:32:22,399 --> 00:32:24,443 [interviewer] What was your first reaction? 697 00:32:24,484 --> 00:32:26,236 "I wanna direct this one. I wanna direct that one. 698 00:32:26,278 --> 00:32:27,863 I wanna direct this one. I wanna direct that one." 699 00:32:27,904 --> 00:32:28,905 That was what it was. 700 00:32:28,947 --> 00:32:30,866 ♪ I'll tell you my name ♪ 701 00:32:30,907 --> 00:32:32,868 ♪ F-U-C-K ♪ 702 00:32:32,909 --> 00:32:34,286 ♪ Fifty-foot Queenie ♪ 703 00:32:34,661 --> 00:32:36,788 ♪ A force ten hurricane... ♪ 704 00:32:36,830 --> 00:32:38,415 [Jason] It feels like The Bobby Lees. 705 00:32:38,457 --> 00:32:41,209 Yeah, I think it's-- it feels exactly like the Bobby Lees. 706 00:32:41,251 --> 00:32:43,962 But it's got that sound. It's got that rawness. 707 00:32:44,004 --> 00:32:46,214 It's just got that energy. 708 00:32:46,256 --> 00:32:49,134 I think all the fans are gonna be stoked. 709 00:32:49,176 --> 00:32:51,386 And I feel like everybody knew that's gonna come to it. 710 00:32:51,428 --> 00:32:52,637 It's gonna be-- Gonna love it. 711 00:32:52,679 --> 00:32:54,764 ♪♪ 712 00:32:58,477 --> 00:33:00,770 Did John tell you about the Epitaph thing? 713 00:33:00,812 --> 00:33:02,564 -No. -That that label-- 714 00:33:03,148 --> 00:33:06,318 That there's a good label that loves this record 715 00:33:06,359 --> 00:33:07,903 and wants to put it out. 716 00:33:07,944 --> 00:33:09,237 They have-- Who do they have, Macky? 717 00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:11,448 -Isn't Epitaph fuckin' Tom-- -[Sam] Did Weezer-- 718 00:33:12,157 --> 00:33:14,242 -Tom Waits. -Tom Waits is on Epitaph, right? 719 00:33:14,242 --> 00:33:17,579 [Sam] Yeah, 'cause underneath, um, Epitaph, they have ANTI. 720 00:33:17,621 --> 00:33:18,872 -ANTI. -And that's-- 721 00:33:18,914 --> 00:33:21,333 That's, like, the parent company is Epitaph. 722 00:33:21,374 --> 00:33:24,419 But they-- The founder of it called John and loved it. 723 00:33:24,461 --> 00:33:28,632 And, um, we're Zooming with him and the president on Monday 724 00:33:28,965 --> 00:33:32,177 and then they booked me and John a ticket, 725 00:33:32,219 --> 00:33:36,765 we're flying out on Wednesday to go meet them and John-- 726 00:33:36,765 --> 00:33:38,600 -[Jason] Where at? In LA? -In LA. 727 00:33:38,642 --> 00:33:40,644 John lied and told them 728 00:33:40,685 --> 00:33:42,771 that four other labels are interested 729 00:33:42,812 --> 00:33:44,481 and we'd like to make a decision by the end of the week. 730 00:33:44,523 --> 00:33:46,483 So they said, "Well, we gotta get you out here quick then." 731 00:33:46,525 --> 00:33:48,944 So, they put us on a-- So, we're "making--" 732 00:33:48,985 --> 00:33:50,779 [Jason] Did you tell-- Yeah, but did John tell 'em 733 00:33:50,820 --> 00:33:52,280 about what you guys are doing on the show today? 734 00:33:52,322 --> 00:33:54,658 Yeah. I think that was a big asset for us. 735 00:33:54,699 --> 00:33:56,451 -[Jason] Fucking huge. -Yeah. So they were excited. 736 00:33:56,493 --> 00:33:58,286 -Yeah! That's dope. -Yeah, so that's-- 737 00:33:58,328 --> 00:34:00,163 Yeah. They're really good. 738 00:34:00,205 --> 00:34:03,542 So-- Well, but I feel like we can't celebrate it yet 739 00:34:03,583 --> 00:34:04,960 until it's for sure. 740 00:34:05,001 --> 00:34:06,545 Well, let's manifest that shit then. 741 00:34:06,586 --> 00:34:08,547 -[Sam] Yeah. Yeah. -[Jason speaks gibberish] 742 00:34:08,588 --> 00:34:09,797 -Hoo, hoo, hoo. -[laughing] 743 00:34:09,839 --> 00:34:11,049 ♪ I was hangin' at a party ♪ 744 00:34:11,091 --> 00:34:12,551 ♪ In the desert one night ♪ 745 00:34:12,592 --> 00:34:13,969 ♪ When I looked across the room ♪ 746 00:34:14,010 --> 00:34:15,219 ♪ I saw Shaun White ♪ 747 00:34:15,262 --> 00:34:16,471 ♪ I'm like, "Oh, my God ♪ 748 00:34:16,513 --> 00:34:18,056 ♪ He is hot as fuck" ♪ 749 00:34:18,098 --> 00:34:19,641 ♪ And he just won the gold, baby ♪ 750 00:34:19,683 --> 00:34:20,809 ♪ What is my luck? ♪ 751 00:34:20,850 --> 00:34:21,893 ♪ This was way back ♪ 752 00:34:21,935 --> 00:34:23,478 ♪ When I was losing my shit ♪ 753 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:24,688 ♪ But our stars were aligned ♪ 754 00:34:24,728 --> 00:34:26,147 ♪ Playing mystery tricks ♪ 755 00:34:26,188 --> 00:34:27,482 ♪ I keep thinking 'bout you ♪ 756 00:34:27,524 --> 00:34:28,817 ♪ It's making me sick ♪ 757 00:34:28,858 --> 00:34:30,150 ♪ And that night in your car ♪ 758 00:34:30,193 --> 00:34:31,987 ♪ When we played "just the tip" ♪ 759 00:34:32,237 --> 00:34:34,697 ♪ I'm older now, I've gotten help... ♪ 760 00:34:34,739 --> 00:34:36,699 Oh. Barry, this is Sam. 761 00:34:36,741 --> 00:34:38,243 -Hi, Barry. Sam. -[Barry] Hey. 762 00:34:38,284 --> 00:34:40,661 -That's Eric, he's our punk rock lawyer. -Hi, Eric. 763 00:34:40,704 --> 00:34:43,831 It was weird 'cause we would sell a shitload of vinyl. 764 00:34:43,873 --> 00:34:47,002 Like, when we play a show, we sell merch. 765 00:34:47,043 --> 00:34:49,879 Like, compared we've talked to other bands, like we can... 766 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,007 The real exchange happens at the show. 767 00:34:52,047 --> 00:34:53,592 The people come, then they come to the next one. 768 00:34:53,632 --> 00:34:55,760 They buy everything we have. They want the new shirt. 769 00:34:55,802 --> 00:34:57,512 The-- But, um-- 770 00:34:58,054 --> 00:34:59,556 But streaming, it didn't equate. 771 00:34:59,598 --> 00:35:01,683 Like-- Like, someone at a venue, 772 00:35:01,725 --> 00:35:03,268 when we'd sell out a show of 500 people, 773 00:35:03,310 --> 00:35:06,521 someone that has 100 million streams 774 00:35:06,563 --> 00:35:08,690 wasn't bringing the amount of people we were bringing 775 00:35:08,732 --> 00:35:10,358 with 20,000 streams. 776 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:11,693 -It was weird. -[Brett Gurewitz] I get it. 777 00:35:11,735 --> 00:35:13,945 Then there's artists who are out there 778 00:35:13,987 --> 00:35:18,074 and they're-- they can sell out a thousand-seat theater 779 00:35:18,116 --> 00:35:19,451 or, you know, not seats, 780 00:35:19,492 --> 00:35:22,245 but, you know, thousand-cap theater 781 00:35:22,662 --> 00:35:26,875 and sell a ton of merch, and vinyl records and... 782 00:35:26,916 --> 00:35:28,877 -[Sam] The streams-- -...but the streams are really low. 783 00:35:28,918 --> 00:35:30,462 And they've not connected the dots. 784 00:35:30,503 --> 00:35:33,214 And I can't explain why that happens. 785 00:35:33,214 --> 00:35:35,967 That-- That's the case for some of our artists, too. 786 00:35:36,009 --> 00:35:37,761 -Um-- -[Sam] We're ready for a shift. 787 00:35:37,802 --> 00:35:39,596 [laughter] 788 00:35:39,638 --> 00:35:40,889 -[Brett] That's why-- -Yeah. 789 00:35:40,889 --> 00:35:42,223 [Brett] That's why I love this project 790 00:35:42,265 --> 00:35:44,809 because the band is amazing. 791 00:35:45,518 --> 00:35:47,020 Uh... 792 00:35:48,271 --> 00:35:50,899 It-it-it checks every single box. 793 00:35:50,940 --> 00:35:54,152 Songs, the records, the live show. 794 00:35:55,487 --> 00:35:57,572 But you've not connected the dots 795 00:35:57,614 --> 00:35:58,948 with the streaming yet, right? 796 00:35:58,990 --> 00:36:00,742 And so, um-- 797 00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:02,285 But the proof's in the pudding. 798 00:36:02,327 --> 00:36:04,079 If it's happening live, 799 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,331 it will happen, uh... 800 00:36:07,957 --> 00:36:09,334 in the streaming space. 801 00:36:09,376 --> 00:36:11,336 And, yeah, you need a partner 802 00:36:11,378 --> 00:36:13,505 to help you, help you get it there. 803 00:36:13,546 --> 00:36:16,257 And I also just wanna say, man, the new record, 804 00:36:16,299 --> 00:36:20,762 I think you guys, uh, have really leveled up. 805 00:36:20,804 --> 00:36:24,641 I mean, I love, I love your other stuff, too, 806 00:36:25,392 --> 00:36:27,769 -but I think the new record is stunning. -[Sam] Thank you. 807 00:36:27,811 --> 00:36:30,772 And so, I think, I think it's kinda perfect timing. 808 00:36:30,814 --> 00:36:32,607 It feels like things have been bubbling 809 00:36:32,607 --> 00:36:35,151 and they're ready to-- that's how it feels. 810 00:36:35,193 --> 00:36:38,488 But we just need the help to push. 811 00:36:39,155 --> 00:36:40,865 ♪♪ 812 00:36:40,907 --> 00:36:42,575 [inaudible] 813 00:36:49,374 --> 00:36:51,459 [Nick] I could go into a million stories 814 00:36:51,501 --> 00:36:52,961 about how people 815 00:36:53,002 --> 00:36:55,880 who are embedded into the music industry, 816 00:36:55,922 --> 00:36:58,299 and that's their main gig and how they, like, 817 00:36:58,341 --> 00:37:00,468 haven't done anything for us, really. 818 00:37:00,510 --> 00:37:02,470 And then Jason coming in 819 00:37:02,470 --> 00:37:04,806 and gifting us on a silver platter 820 00:37:04,848 --> 00:37:08,059 this opportunity to make something that, 821 00:37:08,101 --> 00:37:09,853 you know, something he enjoys, too. 822 00:37:09,894 --> 00:37:11,813 I mean, I-I can't be grateful enough 823 00:37:11,855 --> 00:37:13,398 for the opportunity and everything. 824 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,316 ♪♪ 825 00:37:15,358 --> 00:37:18,486 [Kendall] It feels amazing 826 00:37:18,528 --> 00:37:21,656 to have somebody who believes in us so much 827 00:37:21,698 --> 00:37:23,908 and not just-- he's not just saying it, 828 00:37:23,950 --> 00:37:25,160 you know, he's doing it. 829 00:37:25,201 --> 00:37:26,411 He's making it happen for us. 830 00:37:26,453 --> 00:37:28,663 He's trying to help us. 831 00:37:28,705 --> 00:37:30,331 Um, that's been the big difference 832 00:37:30,331 --> 00:37:32,917 between him and so many other people we've worked with. 833 00:37:32,959 --> 00:37:35,545 ♪♪ 834 00:37:37,547 --> 00:37:41,009 That felt to me, like, like we got-- 835 00:37:41,050 --> 00:37:42,427 Like, it went well, right? 836 00:37:42,469 --> 00:37:44,763 Yeah. I'd be shocked if it didn't, right? 837 00:37:44,804 --> 00:37:47,766 We've just, we've had things said to us before, 838 00:37:47,807 --> 00:37:50,852 so we've learned to never get excited 839 00:37:50,894 --> 00:37:52,103 unless something's real, 840 00:37:52,145 --> 00:37:53,688 and apparently they're gonna send an offer. 841 00:37:53,730 --> 00:37:56,024 But that felt to me-- 842 00:37:56,024 --> 00:37:57,692 -I believe that guy. -[John Swab] Yeah. 843 00:37:57,734 --> 00:37:59,402 He's a musician. He's in Bad Religion. 844 00:37:59,444 --> 00:38:01,279 Like, he's gone through it. 845 00:38:01,321 --> 00:38:03,281 He seems like an honest guy, and I like Sue, too. 846 00:38:03,323 --> 00:38:04,574 -They've-- -[John] Yeah. 847 00:38:04,616 --> 00:38:06,451 It's a huge win, you know. 848 00:38:06,493 --> 00:38:08,828 And I think had you guys not come along... 849 00:38:09,954 --> 00:38:13,041 you know, the, the incentive or excitement 850 00:38:13,082 --> 00:38:14,375 to actually get back in 851 00:38:14,417 --> 00:38:16,211 and make another record would not be there. 852 00:38:16,252 --> 00:38:17,212 So, you know... 853 00:38:17,253 --> 00:38:18,421 [Sam] I don't think this record-- 854 00:38:18,463 --> 00:38:19,714 It's nice to also hear-- 855 00:38:19,756 --> 00:38:21,049 I mean, we like the record 856 00:38:21,090 --> 00:38:22,467 and that's what matters most, 857 00:38:22,509 --> 00:38:25,053 but I wasn't sure if a label 858 00:38:25,094 --> 00:38:26,554 would wanna put it out. 859 00:38:26,596 --> 00:38:28,807 It's different than anything else we've done. 860 00:38:28,848 --> 00:38:31,267 And, um-- I don't know. 861 00:38:31,684 --> 00:38:33,895 If they had, you know, ended up at a major label, 862 00:38:33,937 --> 00:38:35,772 which is what everybody thinks they want, 863 00:38:35,814 --> 00:38:38,107 they probably would have gotten chewed up, spit out 864 00:38:38,149 --> 00:38:41,778 and, you know, they'd be even more miserable they were-- 865 00:38:42,362 --> 00:38:44,072 than they were when you guys, like, first came along. 866 00:38:44,113 --> 00:38:47,408 I think an artist's first label like this with, 867 00:38:47,450 --> 00:38:49,244 you know, run by Brett, 868 00:38:49,285 --> 00:38:52,747 who's like a real legit fuckin' punk rock guy, 869 00:38:52,789 --> 00:38:54,958 I think it's the best place for 'em, you know? So... 870 00:38:54,999 --> 00:38:57,085 It feels like the-- the best case, ever. 871 00:38:57,126 --> 00:38:59,629 I wanna go woo-hoo, but until the offer comes in, 872 00:38:59,671 --> 00:39:01,005 -I feel like I've-- -[John] Let me check. 873 00:39:01,047 --> 00:39:02,423 How do you feel, Brian? 874 00:39:02,465 --> 00:39:04,259 Do you feel like you can say woo-hoo yet? I mean... 875 00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:06,094 [Brian] I don't feel like I can ever say woo-hoo. 876 00:39:06,135 --> 00:39:07,846 -Okay. [laughs] -[John] I'm with you. 877 00:39:07,887 --> 00:39:10,765 [Brian] So I'm the last person to talk to you, but I think-- 878 00:39:10,807 --> 00:39:12,141 Well, Jason would give us a woo-hoo. 879 00:39:12,183 --> 00:39:13,768 [Brian] Yeah, Jason would definitely get a woo-hoo. 880 00:39:13,810 --> 00:39:15,895 ♪♪ 881 00:39:21,901 --> 00:39:23,486 ♪ It's hard to believe in yourself ♪ 882 00:39:23,528 --> 00:39:25,446 ♪ When the thought it's just not ♪ 883 00:39:25,488 --> 00:39:26,656 ♪ It's not natural for me ♪ 884 00:39:26,698 --> 00:39:27,782 ♪ I been reading a book ♪ 885 00:39:27,824 --> 00:39:28,992 ♪ Called "The Law of Success" ♪ 886 00:39:29,033 --> 00:39:30,702 [Nick] I'm excited to see 887 00:39:30,743 --> 00:39:31,828 how people react to this, 888 00:39:31,870 --> 00:39:34,205 and, you know, how they dance, and... 889 00:39:35,331 --> 00:39:40,128 When I get off stage and I, like, see the smile 890 00:39:40,128 --> 00:39:43,756 or just how I made somebody have a good time-- 891 00:39:44,173 --> 00:39:46,009 I mean, putting a smile on somebody's face 892 00:39:46,050 --> 00:39:47,302 is all I live for. 893 00:39:47,343 --> 00:39:49,053 And so, being able 894 00:39:49,095 --> 00:39:51,514 to hop around from city to city and... 895 00:39:53,016 --> 00:39:56,477 have people really relate to that and connect to it, 896 00:39:56,477 --> 00:40:00,148 it's such a gratifying feeling, and I, I can't get enough of it. 897 00:40:00,189 --> 00:40:02,191 [♪ "Napoleon" by The Bobby Lees playing] 898 00:40:10,116 --> 00:40:11,326 [Sam] I do think no matter what, 899 00:40:11,367 --> 00:40:14,329 like, I at least have to make shit 900 00:40:14,370 --> 00:40:16,205 or else I feel like I'm dying. 901 00:40:18,291 --> 00:40:19,334 Not just about us. 902 00:40:19,375 --> 00:40:21,252 It's happening to a ton of other bands, 903 00:40:21,294 --> 00:40:24,047 so... I just think it's gonna be sad 904 00:40:24,088 --> 00:40:27,342 if all that's left is, is TikTok pop. 905 00:40:27,342 --> 00:40:31,179 Like, that's a pretty bleak culture. [laughs] 906 00:40:31,220 --> 00:40:33,723 [♪ "Napoleon" continues] 907 00:40:39,228 --> 00:40:41,606 ♪ Now tell me what to do ♪ 908 00:40:41,981 --> 00:40:45,193 ♪ Show me where to go, when this is... ♪ 909 00:40:45,234 --> 00:40:46,569 [Kendall] I don't know what it means. 910 00:40:47,403 --> 00:40:51,699 I just know that, like, since I started playing music, 911 00:40:51,741 --> 00:40:53,701 I just had this, like, sense 912 00:40:53,743 --> 00:40:55,536 that I was going in a direction 913 00:40:55,578 --> 00:40:57,580 of something that had purpose. 914 00:40:57,622 --> 00:40:59,540 I kinda just went with it 915 00:40:59,582 --> 00:41:01,709 because I could feel that it was, like, pulling me. 916 00:41:01,751 --> 00:41:03,419 ♪ ...don't you dare try to steal my light ♪ 917 00:41:03,461 --> 00:41:05,713 ♪ 'Cause it's hard to believe in yourself... ♪ 918 00:41:05,755 --> 00:41:08,216 [Sam] Nothing's, like, been presented 919 00:41:08,257 --> 00:41:10,259 on our path that seems like, 920 00:41:10,301 --> 00:41:13,721 oh, now you can make a living doing it this way. 921 00:41:13,763 --> 00:41:16,057 You guys came in and gave us this huge gift, 922 00:41:16,099 --> 00:41:18,101 but that's-- we're one band, like, you know, 923 00:41:18,142 --> 00:41:19,936 there's so many good bands that-- 924 00:41:20,436 --> 00:41:23,398 I still think the model has to change the way, 925 00:41:23,439 --> 00:41:25,483 the way it is or something has to shift. 926 00:41:26,776 --> 00:41:29,988 I'm interested to stay along for the adventure 927 00:41:30,029 --> 00:41:32,782 to see what will come next. 928 00:41:32,824 --> 00:41:35,410 ♪ When this is what I am here for ♪ 929 00:41:35,451 --> 00:41:37,412 ♪ And that is all that I know ♪ 930 00:41:37,453 --> 00:41:38,788 [cheering and applause] 931 00:41:38,830 --> 00:41:40,790 Being able to see a record 932 00:41:40,832 --> 00:41:43,126 from the beginning to the end, 933 00:41:43,167 --> 00:41:44,961 you know, for us to direct it, 934 00:41:45,003 --> 00:41:46,838 be able to be part of the whole thing, 935 00:41:46,879 --> 00:41:48,339 help them get a label, 936 00:41:48,381 --> 00:41:51,843 like, that just feels... like something beautiful. 937 00:41:51,884 --> 00:41:54,262 And these-- these guys really deserve it. 938 00:41:54,303 --> 00:41:55,805 I think they got something special. 939 00:41:56,806 --> 00:41:58,975 I hope it happens with more bands. 940 00:41:59,726 --> 00:42:01,352 I'm excited to be with my friends. 941 00:42:01,394 --> 00:42:02,645 I'm excited to see them on tour. 942 00:42:02,687 --> 00:42:05,940 I'm excited to see the new songs on stage. 943 00:42:05,982 --> 00:42:08,192 I really think it's important to buy the artist. 944 00:42:08,234 --> 00:42:09,902 I think it's important to buy the vinyl. 945 00:42:10,319 --> 00:42:11,612 Shit, I'll buy the cassette, 946 00:42:11,654 --> 00:42:13,614 'cause I got a car old enough that that'll work. 947 00:42:13,656 --> 00:42:15,742 ♪♪ 948 00:42:17,577 --> 00:42:19,203 And it's like a great gift 949 00:42:19,245 --> 00:42:21,497 that you can give to people, is music. 950 00:42:21,539 --> 00:42:24,250 So, you know, just keep passing that along. 951 00:42:24,751 --> 00:42:26,544 Pass it this way. 952 00:42:26,586 --> 00:42:29,255 [♪ upbeat music playing] 953 00:42:36,012 --> 00:42:38,014 ♪♪ 954 00:42:42,769 --> 00:42:45,271 ♪♪