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[eerie music playing]

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[eerie screams]

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[laughs mischievously]

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[screams]

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[evil laughter]

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[growls]

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[screaming]

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In my work I've learned
not to judge anything
by first impressions.

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And some years ago
while conducting
an investigation

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of a haunted building
in Virginia City, Nevada,

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the owner showed my some items
that were believed
to be cursed.

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I was immediately drawn
to this miniature coffin.

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And it looked like
a home-made, old,
Halloween prop,

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and it seemed harmless enough.

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But when I reached to open it,
she grabbed my hand
to stop me

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and said, "No.
Do not open the lid,"
she said.

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"This thing is designed
to curse anyone
who opens it."

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And obviously
being an investigator
I opened it anyway.

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Inside I found
some old human hair,
a human skull

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and some rattlesnake rattlers
and some writing on it.

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Initially, I didn't feel
too much from it.

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It may have looked
a bit spooky,

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but it's just
a Halloween decoration, right?

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Wrong. I brought it
into my home.

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And a series of events began
that convinced me

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that I was not the only one
in my house.

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One night,
while I was sleeping,
I was pulled out of my bed.

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I felt my left leg
lift up very slowly

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and then my right leg
began to lift up.

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And then I felt myself
being pulled very slowly
out of my bed.

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At first I began to panic,

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but then I realized, "Look,
this is not gonna kill me."

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But what I was witnessing
in that moment

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as an investigator
was absolutely incredible.

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But after that,
there was an onslaught

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of paranormal activity
that was unleashed.

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And I literally had to move
downstairs into one
of my guest rooms.

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And I turned it
into a religious shrine

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to protect me
from whatever this entity was.

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And I felt as though
whatever this spirit was
it was possessing me.

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I have to admit,
part of me kind of enjoyed it.

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I began to feel like
I was invincible.

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I just had no fear
of anything.

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I felt like somebody
that got turned
into a vampire.

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And look, I've travelled
all over the world

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looking for proof
of the afterlife.

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But now,

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one of the most incredible
paranormal experiences
that I've ever had

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was happening inside
of my own house.

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And even though
I was attracted

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to the feeling of power
it gave me,

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I knew that this cursed
Halloween prop was dangerous.

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And to escape it's effects,
I had to move out
of that house.

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It made me wonder,
what could have happened

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to someone who fell
under it's dark influence
but was unable to escape?

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Where did this object
come from

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and what was the source
of its power?

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These questions served
as the inspiration

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for the film
you are about to see.

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[children chattering]

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What are you supposed to be?

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Arr, matey.

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[dog barking]

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[distorted voice shrieks]

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-[distorted voice shrieks]
-[yelps]

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[panting]

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[breath trembling]

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[screams]

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No, don't, don't please!
Wait! Wait! Let me down!

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Stop! Stop!
Don't do that! [screams]

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[footsteps approaching]

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[boy] Come on.
The lights are still on.
Let's go.

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[knock on door]

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-Trick or treat.
-Trick or treat.

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[boy] Anyone home?

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[chuckles]

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-[boy 1] Go, go, go.
-[boy 2] Go, go.

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[radio playing]

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[voice over radio]
Good morning! Rise and shine.

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The time is 8:00 a.m.
November 1st.

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58 degrees outside and sunny.
It's gonna be a beautiful day.

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WKPI coming at you.

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We hope you enjoyed
last night's spook-tacular
Halloween broadcast.

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We certainly enjoyed
putting it together for you.

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But unfortunately
there is some difficult news

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we've been asked to share
with our listeners
this morning.

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The body of a deceased
young man was found last night

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in the Twin Pines ravine
and foul play is suspected.

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Officials are asking anyone
who may have seen
suspicious activity

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last night
in the town of Marksville,

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to come forward
and inform local authorities.

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A reward of $2,000
is being offered...

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[breathing heavily]

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[children chattering]

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[breathing heavily]

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[gasps] No! No! Please.

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No. No.

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[panting]

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[breathing heavily]

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[yelps] No!

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No. No. No.
[breathing heavily]

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[breath trembling]

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-[shrieks]
-[yelps]

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[panting]

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[panting]

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[breathing deeply]

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[groans]

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[groans]

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[yelps]

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[panting]

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[shouts] No! No! No!

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[screaming]

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No! No! No!
Why? Why? Agh!!!

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Fine.

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[breathing heavily]

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[clangs]

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[man screams]

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[cellphone beeps]

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[line ringing]

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-[woman over phone] Hello?
-Hi, Tanya, it's Richard.

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Look, I'm sorry
to call you like this.

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Richard, what did we say
about using this number?

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Uh, yeah, I know.
Uh, I'm sorry.

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You need to wait for
your appointment on Monday.

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I don't think I can make it
till Monday.

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It's... it's happening again.

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Have you been drinking?

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[Richard] Yeah.

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[Tanya sighs] Okay.
I can give you 10 minutes.

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But then we have to continue
on Monday, okay?

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Thank you.

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Richard, you've been sober
for a year.

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Did something specific
trigger you to start
using alcohol again?

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I'm not sure.
I... I don't know.

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When you experience
extreme anxiety,

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you feel a deep impulse
to become impaired.

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You slip into kind of
a survival mode.

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This is often a response
to severe childhood trauma.

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All right, Richard,
this is what we're gonna do.

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I want you to close your eyes
and place your hands
on your stomach.

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Breathe deeply in

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and follow your exhale
as the breath moves out.

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Allow your mind to wander
to child Richard.

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See him clearly in your mind.

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-[Tanya] Where are you?
-[Richard] In my bedroom.

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[Tanya] Look around you.

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See yourself in a safe space.

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[exhales deeply]

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Keep breathing
and let's go a little deeper.

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Something happened
when you were a child.

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Something you need
to confront.

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What do you see, Richard?

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[boy 1] Go, go, go!

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-[boy 2] Come on!
-[boy 1 laughs]

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[inhales, exhales deeply]

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[knock on door]

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Uh, hi.

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Sorry to bother you.
I live just around the corner

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over on Coldstream Avenue.

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Actually, our cat
has gone missing.

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And my daughter is so upset,
she's just beside herself.

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So I'm canvassing
the neighborhood.

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Do you have a minute?
Could I show you a photograph?

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-[man] Yeah, sure.
-Thank you so much.

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I really appreciate this.

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Um, okay. Here's Charlie.

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You can see he's got
bright blue eyes,
very distinct.

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And then, I don't know
if you can see well
through the screen,

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but, um, right under the chin
there's this...

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[screams]

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-[door closes]
-[man screaming]

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[grunts]

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[groans]

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Right here.

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[groaning]

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[groaning]

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No!

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[floorboard creaking]

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[grunts]

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[groans]

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[groans] My eyes.

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What are you doing here?

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What's going on?

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I don't have any money.

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I'm not here for your money.

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Help! Police!

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-[Peter] Help!
-I don't think we want
to involve the police, Peter.

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[Peter groans]

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[Richard] Jimmy Kay,

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15-years-old.

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Murdered on Halloween night
in 1962.

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Wesley Davis,

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16-years-old.

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Murdered on Halloween
night, 1963.

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If anyone is going to jail
it's gonna be you.

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Unless you help me.

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Who are you?

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I need to return
something to you.

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Something I stole
a long time ago.

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You thought you could just...

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bring it back to me?

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[Richard]
What is this thing, tell me?

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You don't understand.

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I can't do this anymore.

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[Richard] You are going
to help me.

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Or I'm turning myself in
and I'm taking you with me.

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[exhales]

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The hutch over there.

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[Peter] There's a box inside.

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[exhales]

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They come to you at Halloween,
don't they?

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Who are they?

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We all grew up
in the same neighborhood.

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[Peter] I was about
12-years-old at the time.

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Our family lived
across the street from them.

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We thought
the family was odd but...

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we just never knew
how evil they were.

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[boy screaming]

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The kids were either
brainwashed or under
some kind of spell.

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Nobody really knew.

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But every year on Halloween

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another person went missing.

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Rumors began that
the kids were sent out
each Halloween

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to lure in new victims,

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sacrifices.

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When the neighborhood
found out that

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the family was responsible
for the death of a baby...

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[crying]

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...they burned the house
to the ground
with everyone in it.

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When the fire was out

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I snuck onto the property...

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[exhales]

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...and I took that.

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It wasn't burned.

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It was untouched
by the flames.

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I don't know why I took it...

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but I did.

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[creaks]

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And the next Halloween...

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they appeared.

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And then the blackouts.

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Yeah. Yes.

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[Peter] Underneath the files.

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[Peter] That was in the coffin
when I took it.

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It's an ancient
Celtic language.

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It translates roughly to,

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"The children will feast
on the night of Sauin."

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Sauin?

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All Hallows' Eve.

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Halloween.

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What about this at the bottom?

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It means the pillager
will sacrifice the blood
for our king.

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A pillager?

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The coffin is cursed.

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So when you stole it
and opened it

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the curse latched onto you.

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[laughs] You can't
give it away.

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You can't destroy it.

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And you certainly can't
return it to me.

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Only when the coffin
is stolen from you

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and opened by someone else,

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only then
will the curse move on.

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-Are you sure?
-Yes.

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If you don't help me
get rid of this curse,

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you and I are going to jail
for a long time.

266
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[children chattering]

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[chain clinking]

268
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[breathing deeply]

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It's happening.

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[Richard] It's happening.

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[exhales]

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[children chattering]

273
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[groans]

274
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[Richard shouts] Peter!

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[screams]

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[snaps]

277
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Sick!

278
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,137
[grunts]

279
00:31:09,068 --> 00:31:10,241
I'm taking this.

280
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[grunts]

281
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[panting, screams]

282
00:31:25,965 --> 00:31:28,000
[breath trembling]

283
00:31:33,137 --> 00:31:34,310
[police siren wailing]

284
00:31:44,827 --> 00:31:45,896
[blows]

285
00:31:52,965 --> 00:31:54,103
[door closes]

286
00:32:08,689 --> 00:32:09,862
Awesome!

287
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[creaking]

288
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ELI: Hi, I'm Eli Roth.

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Welcome to Filmmaker 2
Filmmaker, I'm glad to be back

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00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,379
with my friend,
Justin Harding.

291
00:33:05,379 --> 00:33:06,413
Good to see you, Justin.

292
00:33:06,413 --> 00:33:07,586
JUSTIN: Good to
see you, Eli.

293
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,758
ELI: Alright, so let's
talk about this Halloween prop,

294
00:33:11,758 --> 00:33:14,206
that is a cursed
Halloween prop.

295
00:33:14,206 --> 00:33:16,482
It's funny because when you
think of a cursed object,

296
00:33:16,482 --> 00:33:18,103
you don't think of
something that

297
00:33:18,103 --> 00:33:20,034
was designed to scare people.

298
00:33:20,034 --> 00:33:22,586
It's normally just some kind of
random object,

299
00:33:22,586 --> 00:33:24,724
but this was a Halloween Prop,

300
00:33:24,724 --> 00:33:27,344
that Zak said he had to
move out of the house

301
00:33:27,344 --> 00:33:29,000
where he had the prop.

302
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:33,034
Talk about doing the story,
setting it on Halloween,

303
00:33:33,034 --> 00:33:34,931
setting it in all
the different eras,

304
00:33:34,931 --> 00:33:38,034
because you are
a Halloween officianato

305
00:33:38,034 --> 00:33:39,965
JUSTIN: What's fun about
this story is that

306
00:33:39,965 --> 00:33:41,241
Halloween for
the main character,

307
00:33:41,241 --> 00:33:42,379
he's terrified of Halloween.

308
00:33:42,379 --> 00:33:43,896
Because that curse comes
every Halloween,

309
00:33:43,896 --> 00:33:44,931
so every Halloween

310
00:33:44,931 --> 00:33:46,206
he's turned into
a serial killer,

311
00:33:46,206 --> 00:33:48,827
or he's used to go out and kill
on behalf of this demon.

312
00:33:48,827 --> 00:33:50,068
So, he doesn't decorate
his house,

313
00:33:50,068 --> 00:33:51,517
he doesn't have-—he's not
participating in

314
00:33:51,517 --> 00:33:53,689
the fun aspects of Halloween,
this is the time of year

315
00:33:53,689 --> 00:33:56,689
where he is sent off to kill and
bring in sacrifices

316
00:33:56,689 --> 00:33:59,034
and he does it in blackout state
as a serial killer.

317
00:33:59,034 --> 00:34:03,275
[creepy music]

318
00:34:03,275 --> 00:34:05,827
[heavy breathing]

319
00:34:05,827 --> 00:34:09,103
[screaming]

320
00:34:12,068 --> 00:34:13,585
JUSTIN:
And so, it was really fun to
shoot Halloween

321
00:34:13,585 --> 00:34:15,516
from his perspective,
where he's terrified of it,

322
00:34:15,516 --> 00:34:17,137
he doesn't want it to come and
he's looking out the window,

323
00:34:17,137 --> 00:34:18,896
seeing all the kids
and everyone having fun

324
00:34:18,896 --> 00:34:20,034
and everyone coming and going,

325
00:34:20,034 --> 00:34:21,344
and he's just hiding behind,
terrified,

326
00:34:21,344 --> 00:34:23,620
looking out for these three
ghost kids that

327
00:34:23,620 --> 00:34:26,000
are going to appear amongst the,
you know, the trick or treaters.

328
00:34:31,965 --> 00:34:39,103
[various voices in the distance]

329
00:34:48,379 --> 00:34:50,000
ELI: Where do they think
this curse came from?

330
00:34:50,896 --> 00:34:52,241
JUSTIN: We don't know
the origins of the curse itself.

331
00:34:52,241 --> 00:34:54,965
But we know that this item
was dangerous to Zak.

332
00:34:54,965 --> 00:34:57,344
He didn't know exactly
where this curse came from,

333
00:34:57,344 --> 00:34:59,310
he got it from a
woman in Nevada right?

334
00:34:59,310 --> 00:35:00,724
He found it in
a storage locker,

335
00:35:00,724 --> 00:35:01,793
and she said never open it,

336
00:35:01,793 --> 00:35:02,965
because if you
open it, you know,

337
00:35:02,965 --> 00:35:04,000
this curse can latch onto you.

338
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,275
It just kind of latched onto
my imagination,

339
00:35:05,275 --> 00:35:06,862
like, what could be
the source of this?

340
00:35:06,862 --> 00:35:09,551
And to me, what was interesting,
is to think about Halloween.

341
00:35:09,551 --> 00:35:11,000
What is Halloween?

342
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,310
ELI: The origin of
Halloween is fascinating,

343
00:35:13,310 --> 00:35:16,517
you know, Samhain.

344
00:35:16,517 --> 00:35:18,965
JUSTIN: An ancient sort of
Celtic festival,

345
00:35:18,965 --> 00:35:19,965
Samhain, right?

346
00:35:19,965 --> 00:35:22,103
It was celebrated as
the end of the year.

347
00:35:22,896 --> 00:35:24,620
ELI: Yeah, well the whole
idea of Halloween,

348
00:35:24,620 --> 00:35:28,275
you know, started where that
was the-—when the veil

349
00:35:28,275 --> 00:35:30,862
at the end of the harvest on
October 31st,

350
00:35:30,862 --> 00:35:33,517
is when the dead can cross
over into our world

351
00:35:33,517 --> 00:35:35,965
and the reason that you wore
a mask

352
00:35:35,965 --> 00:35:39,172
and a costume was so that
when they returned

353
00:35:39,172 --> 00:35:43,172
to the land of the dead,
if they knew you were

354
00:35:43,172 --> 00:35:45,172
living they might take you,
but if they saw you

355
00:35:45,172 --> 00:35:46,862
in a mask they might
think you were one of them

356
00:35:46,862 --> 00:35:48,620
and they would
leave you alone.

357
00:35:48,620 --> 00:35:51,413
JUSTIN: I also read that,
Halloween came during

358
00:35:51,413 --> 00:35:53,137
the Potato famine, back in
those days, when it was

359
00:35:53,137 --> 00:35:54,758
brought over as like a
cultural thing, like Irish

360
00:35:54,758 --> 00:35:56,620
people coming in during
the Potato famine.

361
00:35:56,620 --> 00:35:59,310
It was really like
a-—pranking people.

362
00:35:59,310 --> 00:36:01,379
Trick or Treat was really
like, give us candy

363
00:36:01,379 --> 00:36:02,896
or we're going to break your
fences down, and masks

364
00:36:02,896 --> 00:36:05,103
were a way to hide your
identity and get away with it,

365
00:36:05,103 --> 00:36:06,413
and Halloween-—

366
00:36:06,413 --> 00:36:07,758
ELI: So, it was really
about threatening and

367
00:36:07,758 --> 00:36:08,862
extorting your neighbors.

368
00:36:08,862 --> 00:36:10,448
Yeah, extorting your neighbors
for candy.

369
00:36:10,448 --> 00:36:12,275
I wish we could
go back to that.

370
00:36:12,275 --> 00:36:14,724
Because then in the 80's
it turned into devil's

371
00:36:14,724 --> 00:36:15,931
night and throwing eggs
and breaking things.

372
00:36:15,931 --> 00:36:18,482
But you're saying it
actually started that way.

373
00:36:18,482 --> 00:36:20,000
So, that was the
beginning of Halloween,

374
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,379
and to look at those
photos of early Halloween masks

375
00:36:22,379 --> 00:36:24,620
and homemade costumes,
they carry such

376
00:36:24,620 --> 00:36:26,000
a frightening
essence to them.

377
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,068
They are so scary.

378
00:36:27,068 --> 00:36:28,931
Those old pictures of
people in like the 1930's

379
00:36:28,931 --> 00:36:31,655
and 40's, they're-—it's
nightmare fuel.

380
00:36:31,655 --> 00:36:33,482
Yeah, they're
amazing to look at.

381
00:36:33,482 --> 00:36:35,448
So that was a huge
inspiration for the story too,

382
00:36:35,448 --> 00:36:38,000
was to look back at those old
photos of early Halloween

383
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,655
homemade masks
and bring those to life

384
00:36:39,655 --> 00:36:41,448
as some of the spirits that
invade this world.

385
00:36:41,448 --> 00:36:45,206
They come to you on Halloween,
don't they?

386
00:36:45,206 --> 00:36:48,275
[breathing deeply]

387
00:36:48,275 --> 00:36:49,827
Who are they?

388
00:36:51,965 --> 00:36:53,896
How was it, getting
to make some of those masks?

389
00:36:53,896 --> 00:36:55,827
It's great, the
research was really fun.

390
00:36:55,827 --> 00:36:57,655
Being able to go through
and look, and sort of just

391
00:36:57,655 --> 00:36:59,310
feel which ones
really strike fear?

392
00:37:02,172 --> 00:37:04,862
[pulsing sound]

393
00:37:09,896 --> 00:37:11,655
[scream]

394
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,103
[scream]

395
00:37:27,689 --> 00:37:29,551
ELI: You have a real precision
to your directing,

396
00:37:29,551 --> 00:37:32,689
that whenever I watch pieces
you've directed,

397
00:37:32,689 --> 00:37:35,620
you're approach to it,
and I know your obsessive

398
00:37:35,620 --> 00:37:37,034
and you plan it out.

399
00:37:37,034 --> 00:37:40,241
Um.Do you ever deviate
from that plan?

400
00:37:40,241 --> 00:37:41,379
Oh yeah.

401
00:37:41,379 --> 00:37:43,724
ELI: How much of that went
into the planning of this

402
00:37:43,724 --> 00:37:46,620
particular episode and
incorporating the masks.

403
00:37:46,620 --> 00:37:48,000
Depends on the story.

404
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,344
Typically, I
storyboard a lot.

405
00:37:49,344 --> 00:37:51,310
I mean in the past I've
done that, but I also love

406
00:37:51,310 --> 00:37:52,551
to deviate from the plan.

407
00:37:52,551 --> 00:37:53,896
...green, but right under the
chin there's this strange...

408
00:37:53,896 --> 00:37:55,689
[shhh from spray]

409
00:37:55,689 --> 00:37:59,724
No! No! No!

410
00:37:59,724 --> 00:38:02,137
Agh!

411
00:38:02,137 --> 00:38:03,448
JUSTIN: On this episode
and my other episode.

412
00:38:03,448 --> 00:38:04,517
I didn't story
board anything.

413
00:38:05,068 --> 00:38:05,896
Really?

414
00:38:05,896 --> 00:38:06,931
Yeah, I don't
always storyboard.

415
00:38:06,931 --> 00:38:08,137
I just typically do.

416
00:38:08,137 --> 00:38:09,206
But sometimes-—it
depends on the story.

417
00:38:09,206 --> 00:38:10,068
So, no storyboards.

418
00:38:10,068 --> 00:38:11,000
Did you shot list?

419
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:11,862
Did you frame for it?

420
00:38:11,862 --> 00:38:13,034
Oh yeah, I definitely
shot listed.

421
00:38:13,034 --> 00:38:14,517
I like storyboarding when
the location is difficult,

422
00:38:14,517 --> 00:38:17,034
if there's a lot of
exteriors or if I have a crane.

423
00:38:17,034 --> 00:38:19,000
Depending on the tools and
depending on the story,

424
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,310
I mix it up.

425
00:38:24,965 --> 00:38:28,034
[heavy brathing]

426
00:38:28,034 --> 00:38:29,827
[scream]

427
00:38:32,689 --> 00:38:36,000
[panting]

428
00:38:46,517 --> 00:38:49,482
ELI:
Talk about shooting a scare,
crafting a scare,

429
00:38:49,482 --> 00:38:52,965
and doing it with kids,
and sort of the limits

430
00:38:52,965 --> 00:38:55,689
that happen naturally when
shooting with children.

431
00:38:55,689 --> 00:38:57,586
JUSTIN: In this story,
the children were the ghosts.

432
00:38:57,586 --> 00:38:58,896
They weren't scared of
the ghost;

433
00:38:58,896 --> 00:39:00,068
they were the ghost.

434
00:39:00,068 --> 00:39:02,448
So, in that scenario, it's
great because less is more.

435
00:39:02,448 --> 00:39:03,689
I can only show them
for a few frames

436
00:39:03,689 --> 00:39:05,758
or a few seconds, then they're
not scary anymore.

437
00:39:05,758 --> 00:39:07,000
So--

438
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,724
Kids, I feel,
love being monsters.

439
00:39:08,724 --> 00:39:09,655
Oh yeah.

440
00:39:09,655 --> 00:39:11,275
Did you have that
experience when shooting

441
00:39:11,275 --> 00:39:13,034
-these kids?
-Oh, yeah.

442
00:39:13,034 --> 00:39:14,586
Yeah, I did and there was
a few moments where one of

443
00:39:14,586 --> 00:39:16,724
the kids has to be eating
the face of one of the adults,

444
00:39:16,724 --> 00:39:18,896
and when I first
met them, I really quickly

445
00:39:18,896 --> 00:39:21,000
had to assess. Which kid
is going to be the face eater?

446
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,655
I had to sort of figure
out who is going to be

447
00:39:22,655 --> 00:39:23,931
comfortable with this.

448
00:39:23,931 --> 00:39:25,413
And so, during lunch, I'll
go around and talk to each kid,

449
00:39:25,413 --> 00:39:26,517
oh how's it going?

450
00:39:26,517 --> 00:39:27,448
I kind of get to know who
they are a little bit,

451
00:39:27,448 --> 00:39:29,655
meet their parents,
and just secretly

452
00:39:29,655 --> 00:39:32,034
I'm thinking, okay who's going
to be the face-eater here?

453
00:39:32,034 --> 00:39:35,827
And there's one kid who
was huge fan of Stranger Things

454
00:39:35,827 --> 00:39:37,931
and was a big horror fan,

455
00:39:37,931 --> 00:39:39,724
he was sketching skulls
and I immediately knew

456
00:39:39,724 --> 00:39:41,413
he was the right kid, so I
went and talked to him.

457
00:39:41,413 --> 00:39:44,137
And I just started sort of
playfully directing him

458
00:39:44,137 --> 00:39:45,965
during lunch saying: "“oh,
can you show me what you

459
00:39:45,965 --> 00:39:47,379
look like if you were like
chomp-chomp-chomp like

460
00:39:47,379 --> 00:39:49,000
monster, and then you
would come up and go down"”.

461
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,517
Try to just really
quickly during lunch.

462
00:39:50,517 --> 00:39:52,586
ELI:
Did you use food as a tester
or-—

463
00:39:52,586 --> 00:39:54,793
JUSTIN: Yeah, because
he had his chicken

464
00:39:54,793 --> 00:39:56,413
So, he-—so you're
sitting there at lunch,

465
00:39:56,413 --> 00:39:58,344
and you go up to Jacob,
and he's got a plate full

466
00:39:58,344 --> 00:40:00,758
of chicken and you're just
picturing someone's face,

467
00:40:00,758 --> 00:40:03,000
and you just said: "“Jacob,
if that was someone's face,

468
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,275
how would eat it?"”

469
00:40:04,275 --> 00:40:06,310
or did you say "“Eat the
face like a piece of chicken"”

470
00:40:06,310 --> 00:40:09,172
I like saying
"“show me what that looks like."”.

471
00:40:09,172 --> 00:40:10,793
So like "“hey you have to
like chomp down,

472
00:40:10,793 --> 00:40:12,310
you're like eating,
like you're an animal,

473
00:40:12,310 --> 00:40:14,655
let's say you're like
a little bear cub or something

474
00:40:14,655 --> 00:40:16,275
and you're munching down on
some berries,

475
00:40:16,275 --> 00:40:17,344
what would that look like?"”

476
00:40:17,344 --> 00:40:19,000
What did the parents say?

477
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,724
Because you've got to get
the parents on board for sure.

478
00:40:21,724 --> 00:40:23,482
Well, I think they're excited
when their kid

479
00:40:23,482 --> 00:40:25,379
gets to be involved
in a special way.

480
00:40:25,379 --> 00:40:27,793
Especially if they're a
fan of the genre and into it.

481
00:40:27,793 --> 00:40:29,793
Yeah, if the parents
are horror fans it really helps

482
00:40:29,793 --> 00:40:30,931
Yeah.

483
00:40:30,931 --> 00:40:31,931
And then they're like,
"“oh yeah, get him bloody,

484
00:40:31,931 --> 00:40:33,137
kill him, chop him up."”

485
00:40:33,137 --> 00:40:34,172
Yeah.

486
00:40:34,172 --> 00:40:35,793
Yeah, I can talk
to them and say-—you know,

487
00:40:35,793 --> 00:40:37,448
I want to put some
prosthetic make-up on him.

488
00:40:37,448 --> 00:40:39,620
He's going to have this
kind of burned look to him

489
00:40:39,620 --> 00:40:41,310
and I can do
special close ups.

490
00:40:41,310 --> 00:40:42,827
I can put some fake blood
in his mouth, is that

491
00:40:42,827 --> 00:40:43,931
going to be cool?

492
00:40:43,931 --> 00:40:45,344
And, oh yeah, they're all
excited to be involved.

493
00:40:45,344 --> 00:40:50,275
[eerie music]

494
00:40:50,275 --> 00:40:53,310
[chewing and growling]

495
00:40:53,310 --> 00:40:55,103
Yeah, and I love working
with kids.

496
00:40:55,103 --> 00:40:56,482
I love having kids on set.

497
00:40:56,482 --> 00:40:57,586
I have a 7-year-old son.

498
00:40:57,586 --> 00:41:01,068
I feel I'm a big kid
and I really enjoy creating

499
00:41:01,068 --> 00:41:03,103
an energy that feels safe,
and fun, and playful.

500
00:41:03,103 --> 00:41:05,241
But I just treat them like
any other adult.

501
00:41:05,241 --> 00:41:07,103
I don't really talk down to kids

502
00:41:07,103 --> 00:41:08,827
Yeah, I found that-—like
in Hostile,

503
00:41:08,827 --> 00:41:11,103
when I had the kids, that
actually came from

504
00:41:11,103 --> 00:41:12,931
a gypsy commune
and that weren't actors,

505
00:41:12,931 --> 00:41:14,896
that-—I said, "“okay you're going
to throw bricks,

506
00:41:14,896 --> 00:41:16,137
"you're going to bash
his head in"”

507
00:41:16,137 --> 00:41:17,206
and the kids were amazing.

508
00:41:17,206 --> 00:41:20,448
They were so funny, and
they brought such energy

509
00:41:20,448 --> 00:41:21,965
and such good ideas.

510
00:41:21,965 --> 00:41:25,000
And then in Green Inferno,
when we're in the village

511
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,862
and you have the local
kids, that were just

512
00:41:27,862 --> 00:41:29,517
acting in the mood with
the decapitated heads

513
00:41:29,517 --> 00:41:31,827
and running around-—they were
the funniest,

514
00:41:31,827 --> 00:41:32,931
they had ideas, they caught
a snake,

515
00:41:32,931 --> 00:41:33,827
they were like
"Hey, we caught a snake,

516
00:41:33,827 --> 00:41:35,000
should we put this
in the scene?"

517
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,379
and I mean they bring such
energy and such life,

518
00:41:37,379 --> 00:41:39,827
and they just say stuff that
adults would never say.

519
00:41:39,827 --> 00:41:40,896
It's incredible.

520
00:41:40,896 --> 00:41:43,172
They have this
pure energy and their

521
00:41:43,172 --> 00:41:45,689
enthusiastic, it's nice
to discover kids who have

522
00:41:45,689 --> 00:41:47,620
this gift, that might not
even know it yet, and then

523
00:41:47,620 --> 00:41:50,137
you can sort of
help mold them and-—

524
00:41:50,137 --> 00:41:52,517
it's really
exciting for me to find

525
00:41:52,517 --> 00:41:54,551
kids and bring kids to
film festivals and to show

526
00:41:54,551 --> 00:41:56,827
them, introduce them to
a world that they didn't

527
00:41:56,827 --> 00:41:58,241
even know existed

528
00:41:58,241 --> 00:42:00,827
Thank you, Justin,
such a fan of yours.

529
00:42:00,827 --> 00:42:04,206
Another amazing episode,
um, and again.

530
00:42:04,206 --> 00:42:06,172
I can't wait to see
what you do next.

531
00:42:06,172 --> 00:42:07,586
Anything you
direct, I'm there.

532
00:42:07,586 --> 00:42:08,724
Thanks, Eli.