1 00:00:01,969 --> 00:00:07,875 [eerie music playing] 2 00:00:07,975 --> 00:00:08,809 [screaming] 3 00:00:16,184 --> 00:00:17,251 [evil laughter] 4 00:00:17,818 --> 00:00:19,019 [woman screaming] 5 00:00:22,323 --> 00:00:24,024 [laughing maniacally] 6 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:28,262 [growling] 7 00:00:30,498 --> 00:00:31,765 [screaming] 8 00:00:39,107 --> 00:00:41,008 Human skeletons have played a key role 9 00:00:41,109 --> 00:00:43,211 in rituals for thousands of years, 10 00:00:43,311 --> 00:00:44,845 and it's easy to see why. 11 00:00:44,945 --> 00:00:48,449 The human skeleton is a powerful reminder of 12 00:00:48,549 --> 00:00:52,120 our own mortality and proof that our time 13 00:00:52,220 --> 00:00:55,055 in this world is often all too short. 14 00:00:55,156 --> 00:00:58,292 Now, since acquiring these skeletons in 2016, 15 00:00:58,392 --> 00:01:02,430 I have seen with my own eyes the powerful effect 16 00:01:02,530 --> 00:01:04,498 that they have had on my visitors. 17 00:01:04,598 --> 00:01:07,368 Now, while the organizations who own these skeletons 18 00:01:07,468 --> 00:01:11,872 before me may have used it for harmless initiations, 19 00:01:11,972 --> 00:01:16,176 I've learned that in the past, some other much darker 20 00:01:16,277 --> 00:01:19,146 societies have used them for far more 21 00:01:19,213 --> 00:01:20,681 sinister purposes. 22 00:01:20,781 --> 00:01:23,283 Some believe they have played a key role 23 00:01:23,384 --> 00:01:26,620 in blood sacrifices or attempts to contact demons, 24 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,789 or the Devil himself. 25 00:01:28,889 --> 00:01:31,725 Now, during my investigations into these matters, 26 00:01:31,825 --> 00:01:34,162 I've also learned that sometimes, 27 00:01:34,262 --> 00:01:36,564 in an attempt to conceal their actions, 28 00:01:36,664 --> 00:01:38,799 members of these secret societies have 29 00:01:38,899 --> 00:01:41,169 hidden these skeletons behind walls, 30 00:01:41,269 --> 00:01:44,405 they've hidden them in attics, basements. 31 00:01:44,505 --> 00:01:47,708 In here, they've remained, sometimes for decades, 32 00:01:47,808 --> 00:01:49,577 until being accidentally discovered. 33 00:01:49,676 --> 00:01:53,681 Now, I began to wonder, what horror might such 34 00:01:53,781 --> 00:01:57,485 an object inflict on an unsuspecting homeowner 35 00:01:57,585 --> 00:02:00,788 who had no idea that such a presence was in their house? 36 00:02:00,888 --> 00:02:02,256 And it was this question 37 00:02:02,356 --> 00:02:05,993 that inspired the film you are about to watch. 38 00:02:21,875 --> 00:02:24,378 [eerie music playing] 39 00:02:55,909 --> 00:02:57,911 [whirring] 40 00:03:03,116 --> 00:03:05,719 [ethereal music playing] 41 00:03:14,061 --> 00:03:15,128 [boy] Hey, Mom! 42 00:03:15,263 --> 00:03:16,397 Can I get some juice? 43 00:03:16,497 --> 00:03:17,631 [door closes] 44 00:03:40,288 --> 00:03:41,555 You really put a dent in this. 45 00:03:42,155 --> 00:03:42,956 Hey. 46 00:03:43,055 --> 00:03:44,292 Yeah. 47 00:03:44,392 --> 00:03:45,359 Can I be done for the day? 48 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,028 Maybe once you help me with this side? 49 00:03:49,297 --> 00:03:50,197 Thank you. 50 00:03:52,300 --> 00:03:53,066 [boy] Mmm. 51 00:03:54,668 --> 00:03:55,603 Back to it. 52 00:03:56,203 --> 00:03:57,103 Yes, ma'am. 53 00:04:04,578 --> 00:04:05,413 [thuds] 54 00:04:08,015 --> 00:04:09,182 [thuds] 55 00:04:11,118 --> 00:04:11,952 [thuds] 56 00:04:12,853 --> 00:04:14,322 [thuds] 57 00:04:14,355 --> 00:04:15,689 -[boy] Mom? -[Georgia] Yeah? 58 00:04:15,789 --> 00:04:17,325 I think there's something here. 59 00:04:22,496 --> 00:04:23,464 What is it? 60 00:04:24,365 --> 00:04:25,232 [boy] I don't know. 61 00:04:25,332 --> 00:04:28,168 [eerie music playing] 62 00:04:29,036 --> 00:04:29,870 [Georgia grunts] 63 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:33,707 What do you think is inside of it? 64 00:04:33,807 --> 00:04:34,675 Who knows? 65 00:04:35,976 --> 00:04:37,010 Could be a time capsule. 66 00:04:38,111 --> 00:04:39,012 Let's go open it. 67 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,021 Lock on it or something. 68 00:04:48,121 --> 00:04:49,523 How are we gonna get this loose? 69 00:04:49,623 --> 00:04:50,457 Move. 70 00:04:50,957 --> 00:04:52,058 [clanking] 71 00:04:52,159 --> 00:04:53,527 I don't think that's gonna work at all. 72 00:04:55,796 --> 00:04:56,630 Okay. 73 00:05:02,269 --> 00:05:03,871 [eerie music playing] 74 00:05:03,971 --> 00:05:04,805 [boy] Whoa. 75 00:05:06,807 --> 00:05:07,908 What is it? 76 00:05:08,576 --> 00:05:10,277 It's an old film can. 77 00:05:10,378 --> 00:05:11,645 Might be a movie in here. 78 00:05:14,415 --> 00:05:15,616 Can you see anything on it? 79 00:05:16,950 --> 00:05:18,218 I'm not sure. 80 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:21,755 [eerie music playing] 81 00:05:33,967 --> 00:05:34,968 [bells dinging] 82 00:06:05,833 --> 00:06:07,435 Anything I can help you with? 83 00:06:08,268 --> 00:06:09,102 Hi. 84 00:06:09,603 --> 00:06:10,604 Yes. 85 00:06:10,704 --> 00:06:13,541 I was wondering if you had any film projectors. 86 00:06:14,442 --> 00:06:16,844 -Uh, what kind? -16 millimeter. 87 00:06:16,944 --> 00:06:18,078 Ah. 88 00:06:18,178 --> 00:06:19,079 Follow me. 89 00:06:44,472 --> 00:06:49,209 [whirring] 90 00:06:54,882 --> 00:06:58,085 [eerie music playing] 91 00:07:25,045 --> 00:07:26,079 [gasps] 92 00:07:28,516 --> 00:07:29,717 [gasps] 93 00:07:30,417 --> 00:07:31,418 [click] 94 00:07:37,257 --> 00:07:38,358 [exhales deeply] 95 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,169 So, you and your son found a time capsule? 96 00:07:49,269 --> 00:07:50,638 That's what I thought it was. 97 00:07:50,738 --> 00:07:52,806 It had an old film reel inside, 98 00:07:52,906 --> 00:07:55,543 but I think it might be evidence of a real murder. 99 00:07:55,576 --> 00:07:56,409 A murder? 100 00:07:59,179 --> 00:08:00,213 Just this way. 101 00:08:00,814 --> 00:08:01,949 Mind the mess. 102 00:08:02,983 --> 00:08:04,017 [door closes] 103 00:08:06,286 --> 00:08:07,555 [sighs] 104 00:08:10,691 --> 00:08:11,592 [click] 105 00:08:11,692 --> 00:08:13,794 [whirring] 106 00:08:25,005 --> 00:08:25,839 Sorry. 107 00:08:26,707 --> 00:08:28,141 This isn't it. 108 00:08:34,715 --> 00:08:38,586 [suspenseful music playing] 109 00:08:45,358 --> 00:08:46,694 [Georgia] I don't know what's happening. 110 00:08:55,869 --> 00:08:57,671 Thank you for coming out anyway. 111 00:08:59,873 --> 00:09:01,141 I know you're new to town, ma'am, 112 00:09:01,241 --> 00:09:03,076 but we're only a small team out here. 113 00:09:03,877 --> 00:09:04,878 Of course. 114 00:09:04,978 --> 00:09:05,813 Sorry again. 115 00:09:15,923 --> 00:09:18,025 [eerie music playing] 116 00:09:30,270 --> 00:09:34,875 [whirring] 117 00:10:15,248 --> 00:10:18,551 [suspenseful music playing] 118 00:10:30,731 --> 00:10:34,001 [whirring intensifies] 119 00:10:39,106 --> 00:10:41,341 [dramatic music playing] 120 00:10:44,878 --> 00:10:45,879 [inaudible] 121 00:10:48,115 --> 00:10:50,951 [screaming] 122 00:10:51,051 --> 00:10:51,885 [click] 123 00:10:53,053 --> 00:10:54,788 [breathing heavily] 124 00:11:03,296 --> 00:11:08,168 [suspenseful music playing] 125 00:11:34,327 --> 00:11:35,162 [boy] Morning. 126 00:11:36,163 --> 00:11:37,564 [Georgia] Hey. 127 00:11:37,664 --> 00:11:39,800 Did you get up late last night? 128 00:11:39,900 --> 00:11:41,134 [boy] What? No. 129 00:11:41,769 --> 00:11:43,070 -Why? -Nothing. 130 00:11:51,879 --> 00:11:53,881 -How's your new room? -[boy] It's all right. 131 00:11:53,981 --> 00:11:55,783 Just didn't get much sleep last night. 132 00:11:55,883 --> 00:11:57,117 How come? 133 00:11:57,217 --> 00:11:58,819 Just kept on hearing weird noises. 134 00:12:01,254 --> 00:12:02,890 What kind of noises? 135 00:12:02,990 --> 00:12:04,992 I don't know. Like chanting or something. 136 00:12:05,592 --> 00:12:06,493 Chanting? 137 00:12:06,593 --> 00:12:08,796 [boy] Yeah, it's probably nothing though. 138 00:12:08,896 --> 00:12:10,463 I think my phone was playing something. 139 00:12:28,581 --> 00:12:31,251 [suspenseful music playing] 140 00:12:31,351 --> 00:12:32,185 [door closes] 141 00:12:56,009 --> 00:12:59,679 [eerie music playing] 142 00:13:21,969 --> 00:13:22,870 [click] 143 00:13:22,936 --> 00:13:25,538 [whirring] 144 00:13:41,989 --> 00:13:44,290 Help me, Georgia! 145 00:13:50,230 --> 00:13:51,064 [gasps] 146 00:13:54,134 --> 00:13:56,904 [bells dinging] 147 00:14:06,546 --> 00:14:08,381 Ah, back so soon. 148 00:14:08,481 --> 00:14:09,816 What can I do for you today? 149 00:14:09,917 --> 00:14:12,252 Do you know how to determine the date of a film like this? 150 00:14:12,352 --> 00:14:13,386 Ah, let's see. 151 00:14:15,655 --> 00:14:17,257 Usually, you can tell the date 152 00:14:18,191 --> 00:14:19,592 by the symbols printed 153 00:14:19,692 --> 00:14:20,994 on the film itself. 154 00:14:28,001 --> 00:14:29,269 Here we go. 155 00:14:30,670 --> 00:14:31,671 Ah. 156 00:14:33,573 --> 00:14:36,944 It looks like late 1930s. 157 00:14:37,044 --> 00:14:38,245 1930s? 158 00:14:38,345 --> 00:14:39,746 [man] That's correct. 159 00:14:39,846 --> 00:14:41,781 Are you certain about the date? 160 00:14:41,949 --> 00:14:43,683 Yes, 100%. 161 00:14:43,783 --> 00:14:45,352 Could it have been developed any later than that? 162 00:14:45,452 --> 00:14:47,587 It would've been developed within a few years 163 00:14:47,687 --> 00:14:49,022 of its being manufactured, 164 00:14:49,122 --> 00:14:50,790 or there would be no images. 165 00:14:50,958 --> 00:14:52,993 Film of this era was quite unstable. 166 00:14:53,093 --> 00:14:54,194 Hope that helps. 167 00:15:00,968 --> 00:15:05,705 [whirring] 168 00:15:13,546 --> 00:15:15,315 [eerie music playing] 169 00:15:24,857 --> 00:15:25,692 [click] 170 00:15:31,131 --> 00:15:31,999 Hey. 171 00:15:32,032 --> 00:15:33,000 Watch anything interesting? 172 00:15:33,566 --> 00:15:34,434 Nope. 173 00:15:34,534 --> 00:15:36,836 Well, there's this thing called a TV. 174 00:15:39,406 --> 00:15:40,407 Good idea. 175 00:15:41,841 --> 00:15:43,510 [door creaks] 176 00:15:44,411 --> 00:15:45,412 [door closes] 177 00:15:46,246 --> 00:15:47,914 Hey, anything you wanna watch? 178 00:15:48,015 --> 00:15:49,749 You choose. [exhales] 179 00:15:51,484 --> 00:15:53,386 [whirring] 180 00:15:55,188 --> 00:15:57,357 [suspenseful music playing] 181 00:16:01,661 --> 00:16:02,629 [Georgia screaming] 182 00:16:03,430 --> 00:16:04,464 -[boy] Mom! -[Georgia] No! 183 00:16:04,564 --> 00:16:05,465 [boy] Mom, what's wrong? 184 00:16:05,565 --> 00:16:07,300 -[boy] Mom! -Did you see that? 185 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,170 -See what? -The old film reel. 186 00:16:15,308 --> 00:16:16,143 [boy] Mom. 187 00:16:17,244 --> 00:16:18,111 Are you okay? 188 00:16:18,611 --> 00:16:19,512 I'm fine. 189 00:16:20,580 --> 00:16:22,049 Don't worry. I, um... 190 00:16:23,050 --> 00:16:24,417 I think I just need to sleep. 191 00:16:24,517 --> 00:16:26,153 Maybe watch something tomorrow, okay? 192 00:16:31,524 --> 00:16:35,362 [suspenseful music playing] 193 00:16:48,608 --> 00:16:52,312 [screaming] 194 00:17:01,088 --> 00:17:03,690 [screaming] 195 00:17:03,790 --> 00:17:06,226 [breathing heavily] 196 00:17:07,227 --> 00:17:09,929 [exhaling deeply] 197 00:17:16,935 --> 00:17:17,904 [click] 198 00:17:18,003 --> 00:17:20,006 [whirring] 199 00:18:06,353 --> 00:18:07,187 [camera shutter clicks] 200 00:18:21,501 --> 00:18:22,735 [grunting] 201 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:57,270 [suspenseful music playing] 202 00:19:32,372 --> 00:19:34,241 [whirring] 203 00:19:36,008 --> 00:19:38,345 [man] The film is cursed. 204 00:19:38,445 --> 00:19:41,348 Once you watch it, they come for you. 205 00:19:42,682 --> 00:19:43,883 Like they did for me. 206 00:19:44,851 --> 00:19:48,521 [chanting] 207 00:20:01,334 --> 00:20:05,071 [chanting] 208 00:20:33,666 --> 00:20:36,569 [eerie music playing] 209 00:20:43,710 --> 00:20:45,111 [Georgia screaming] 210 00:20:48,681 --> 00:20:49,749 [whirring] 211 00:20:49,849 --> 00:20:50,783 [man] Georgia! 212 00:20:50,883 --> 00:20:52,184 Help me! 213 00:20:57,256 --> 00:21:00,560 [Georgia screaming] 214 00:21:10,169 --> 00:21:12,505 [Georgia screaming] 215 00:21:12,605 --> 00:21:13,506 [boy] Mom? 216 00:21:14,006 --> 00:21:14,841 Mom? 217 00:21:16,008 --> 00:21:16,976 Mom, what are you doing? 218 00:21:17,644 --> 00:21:18,445 Mom. 219 00:21:18,545 --> 00:21:20,179 How did you hurt yourself? 220 00:21:20,347 --> 00:21:21,348 [Georgia whimpering] I... 221 00:21:22,214 --> 00:21:23,115 [boy] What's going on? 222 00:21:23,215 --> 00:21:24,384 Nothing, just don't worry! 223 00:21:24,484 --> 00:21:26,619 Just tell me the truth, please! 224 00:21:30,457 --> 00:21:31,391 Mom. 225 00:21:33,526 --> 00:21:34,961 I am worried about you. 226 00:21:35,962 --> 00:21:36,796 Mom, look at me. 227 00:21:37,564 --> 00:21:38,631 I'm worried about you. 228 00:21:40,232 --> 00:21:41,067 Okay? 229 00:21:41,167 --> 00:21:42,068 Please, just... 230 00:21:43,503 --> 00:21:44,904 Just tell me what's going on. 231 00:21:46,138 --> 00:21:47,006 [Georgia whimpering] 232 00:21:47,740 --> 00:21:48,641 Uh... [crying] 233 00:21:49,509 --> 00:21:51,978 I'm so sorry. 234 00:21:57,149 --> 00:21:58,918 I don't know what's happening to me. 235 00:22:03,623 --> 00:22:04,957 What was on that film? 236 00:22:09,396 --> 00:22:11,163 I can't. 237 00:22:11,263 --> 00:22:15,167 Look, whatever it was, you need to get rid of it now. 238 00:22:16,268 --> 00:22:17,136 Please. 239 00:22:20,172 --> 00:22:21,140 Okay. 240 00:22:22,609 --> 00:22:23,510 Okay. 241 00:22:49,135 --> 00:22:51,137 [flame hissing] 242 00:23:21,468 --> 00:23:22,268 Hey. 243 00:23:22,368 --> 00:23:23,603 Are you feeling better? 244 00:23:23,703 --> 00:23:24,537 Much. 245 00:23:26,038 --> 00:23:26,973 Um, 246 00:23:27,073 --> 00:23:29,141 Bill's going out of town tomorrow 247 00:23:29,241 --> 00:23:30,577 and I was wondering if I could chill with him tonight. 248 00:23:31,210 --> 00:23:32,679 Yeah. Yeah, of course. 249 00:23:33,946 --> 00:23:35,314 If you want me to stay, I can. 250 00:23:35,482 --> 00:23:36,916 No, I'll be fine. 251 00:23:37,550 --> 00:23:38,384 Go have fun. 252 00:23:38,951 --> 00:23:39,886 All right, Mom. 253 00:24:22,529 --> 00:24:26,198 [suspenseful music playing] 254 00:24:31,838 --> 00:24:33,640 Secret society? 255 00:24:37,209 --> 00:24:39,145 [keys clacking] 256 00:24:44,584 --> 00:24:47,687 [suspenseful music playing] 257 00:24:48,655 --> 00:24:49,656 [knocking] 258 00:24:51,390 --> 00:24:52,559 [doorknob creaks] 259 00:24:54,426 --> 00:24:55,427 Hi. 260 00:24:56,395 --> 00:24:57,229 Um, 261 00:24:57,329 --> 00:24:59,599 I moved in a couple weeks ago. 262 00:24:59,699 --> 00:25:00,967 Next door. 263 00:25:01,067 --> 00:25:02,802 -I'm Georgia. -Hi. 264 00:25:02,902 --> 00:25:03,703 Nice to meet you. 265 00:25:03,803 --> 00:25:05,104 This is for you. [chuckles] 266 00:25:05,572 --> 00:25:06,372 Uh, 267 00:25:06,472 --> 00:25:07,607 thank you. That's... 268 00:25:08,474 --> 00:25:09,441 That's so sweet. 269 00:25:10,977 --> 00:25:12,178 Um, 270 00:25:12,278 --> 00:25:16,315 I've received a load of letters for the previous owners 271 00:25:16,415 --> 00:25:18,250 and I'd love to forward them on. 272 00:25:18,350 --> 00:25:19,451 Do you know them? 273 00:25:20,152 --> 00:25:22,254 -What? For James? -Yes. 274 00:25:22,955 --> 00:25:23,756 That sounds right. 275 00:25:23,856 --> 00:25:25,858 James, uh, James, uh... 276 00:25:25,958 --> 00:25:26,993 Daniels? 277 00:25:27,594 --> 00:25:28,427 Yes, that's it. 278 00:25:28,928 --> 00:25:30,362 James Daniels. 279 00:25:30,462 --> 00:25:31,698 Do you know where he moved to? 280 00:25:33,299 --> 00:25:35,602 I think you should throw them away. 281 00:25:35,702 --> 00:25:37,870 He hasn't lived there for a long time. 282 00:25:56,488 --> 00:25:58,257 [James] Help me, Georgia! 283 00:25:58,357 --> 00:25:59,191 [Georgia gasps] 284 00:26:01,027 --> 00:26:02,194 [sighs] 285 00:26:03,763 --> 00:26:07,533 [whirring] 286 00:26:23,750 --> 00:26:25,317 It's happened many times before. 287 00:26:27,286 --> 00:26:28,988 The skeleton is the key. 288 00:26:29,889 --> 00:26:31,223 It's in the attic. 289 00:26:32,224 --> 00:26:34,260 [stuttering] Destroy the bones. 290 00:26:34,927 --> 00:26:36,428 Maybe you'll set us free. 291 00:26:37,396 --> 00:26:39,131 Destroy the bones! 292 00:26:40,399 --> 00:26:41,433 But hurry! 293 00:26:42,301 --> 00:26:43,502 They're coming for you! 294 00:27:38,124 --> 00:27:40,426 [Georgia grunting] 295 00:28:17,764 --> 00:28:20,299 [suspenseful music playing] 296 00:28:31,978 --> 00:28:32,779 [click] 297 00:28:32,879 --> 00:28:34,580 [whirring] 298 00:28:38,317 --> 00:28:39,385 [whirring] 299 00:28:47,093 --> 00:28:48,627 [chanting] 300 00:28:53,232 --> 00:28:56,568 [chanting] 301 00:28:58,470 --> 00:28:59,872 Who are you? 302 00:28:59,972 --> 00:29:01,140 What do you want? 303 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,810 [chanting] 304 00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:29,201 [Georgia gasping] 305 00:29:36,442 --> 00:29:37,676 [Georgia screams] 306 00:29:42,381 --> 00:29:44,450 [whirring] 307 00:29:53,625 --> 00:30:03,635 ** 308 00:30:13,645 --> 00:30:23,655 ** 309 00:30:31,097 --> 00:30:32,164 Hey everyone, welcome to 310 00:30:32,264 --> 00:30:34,633 Filmmaker to Filmmaker, The Haunted Museum. 311 00:30:34,733 --> 00:30:37,769 I'm Eli Roth, here with the director Roxy Shih, 312 00:30:37,870 --> 00:30:39,438 and we are talking about skeletons 313 00:30:39,538 --> 00:30:43,809 and secret societies and old lost films. 314 00:30:43,910 --> 00:30:46,445 Uh, this is your fourth episode, I guess. 315 00:30:46,545 --> 00:30:47,479 Yes. 316 00:30:47,579 --> 00:30:50,216 Uh, incredible, so lucky to have you back. 317 00:30:50,316 --> 00:30:53,352 I'm such a fan of your work, going back to crypt TV. 318 00:30:53,452 --> 00:30:54,353 Mm-hm. 319 00:30:54,453 --> 00:30:55,955 So, let's talk about the skeleton, 320 00:30:56,055 --> 00:30:58,024 the secret societies, 321 00:30:58,124 --> 00:31:00,659 and diving into this project. 322 00:31:00,759 --> 00:31:03,095 I'm curious, what information you had, 323 00:31:03,195 --> 00:31:07,333 what was based in reality, and what excited you about 324 00:31:07,433 --> 00:31:08,500 shooting this episode? 325 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,803 Um, so the skeleton wasn't just one skeleton, 326 00:31:11,938 --> 00:31:14,506 it's basically a skeleton society. 327 00:31:14,606 --> 00:31:20,112 So amazing writers, Justin Parlet and Ethan Evans, 328 00:31:20,212 --> 00:31:21,147 love them. 329 00:31:21,247 --> 00:31:23,049 Came to me with this amazing script that they 330 00:31:23,149 --> 00:31:26,752 developed based off of that lore, and I'm such 331 00:31:26,852 --> 00:31:28,955 a huge fan of the way that they write, 332 00:31:28,988 --> 00:31:30,289 because it is so clear. 333 00:31:30,389 --> 00:31:31,157 So clean. 334 00:31:31,257 --> 00:31:32,224 It's so clean 335 00:31:32,324 --> 00:31:33,192 Such good writers. 336 00:31:33,292 --> 00:31:34,626 ROXY: And immediately you can visualize, 337 00:31:34,726 --> 00:31:37,796 what it is that is on the page. 338 00:31:37,964 --> 00:31:39,698 It's very elegantly written 339 00:31:39,798 --> 00:31:41,833 through the perspective of one person. 340 00:31:41,968 --> 00:31:45,637 And I was so lucky to work with the actress Diana Pelotso, 341 00:31:45,737 --> 00:31:47,706 who basically gave me everything. 342 00:31:47,806 --> 00:31:49,475 I was so lucky to find her 343 00:31:49,575 --> 00:31:51,677 and we were able to explore this character, 344 00:31:51,777 --> 00:31:55,847 very much together and go through the difficulties 345 00:31:55,982 --> 00:31:58,450 of being a single Mom, and having to separate 346 00:31:58,550 --> 00:32:00,519 what's happening with you and your son and also, 347 00:32:00,619 --> 00:32:02,521 the theme of "Home". 348 00:32:02,621 --> 00:32:04,156 And I feel like that's very apparent, 349 00:32:04,256 --> 00:32:06,592 is this space that you're in, and you're looking for a home, 350 00:32:06,692 --> 00:32:08,995 you're looking for a new start, you're looking for safety, 351 00:32:09,028 --> 00:32:11,697 and at the same time, it turns against you, 352 00:32:11,797 --> 00:32:15,467 and what do you do to protect what you love? 353 00:32:15,567 --> 00:32:17,636 Georgia! Help me! 354 00:32:17,736 --> 00:32:21,840 ** 355 00:32:22,008 --> 00:32:24,743 [Georgia yelps in fear] 356 00:32:24,843 --> 00:32:34,286 [music intensifies] 357 00:32:34,386 --> 00:32:35,254 [knife slicing sound] 358 00:32:35,354 --> 00:32:37,223 [Georgia screaming] 359 00:32:37,323 --> 00:32:38,857 Mom? 360 00:32:39,025 --> 00:32:41,127 ROXY: Shooting this episode was such a journey, 361 00:32:41,227 --> 00:32:45,531 like, everything felt like a lyric, 362 00:32:45,631 --> 00:32:47,033 if you know what I'm saying. 363 00:32:47,099 --> 00:32:48,134 Interesting. 364 00:32:48,234 --> 00:32:50,136 Yeah, it just felt like every shot was designed 365 00:32:50,236 --> 00:32:51,437 like poetry. 366 00:32:51,537 --> 00:32:53,172 ELI: Which is not easy to do when you're shooting 367 00:32:53,272 --> 00:32:55,574 practically on a low budget and you've got to 368 00:32:55,674 --> 00:32:57,743 get your shots and you've got to move fast, 369 00:32:57,843 --> 00:32:58,844 Yes. 370 00:32:58,944 --> 00:33:01,447 sometimes you've just got to point two cameras and 371 00:33:01,547 --> 00:33:03,049 get the information, rather than something 372 00:33:03,082 --> 00:33:04,083 elegant and poetic. 373 00:33:04,183 --> 00:33:05,351 Do you shot list? 374 00:33:05,451 --> 00:33:06,585 Do you storyboard? 375 00:33:06,685 --> 00:33:08,120 Do you walk through it with your D.P? 376 00:33:08,220 --> 00:33:11,090 How do you prep, so that you can get the poetry 377 00:33:11,190 --> 00:33:12,724 that you get in your photography? 378 00:33:12,824 --> 00:33:15,794 I'm a little crazy, so I used to be a dancer, right? 379 00:33:15,894 --> 00:33:17,063 -Really? -Yeah. 380 00:33:17,096 --> 00:33:18,164 What kind of dance? 381 00:33:18,264 --> 00:33:20,066 Yes, um, I was a modern dancer and hip-hop dancer. 382 00:33:20,099 --> 00:33:22,968 I used to perform at the Clippers half-time shows. 383 00:33:23,069 --> 00:33:23,802 -Really? -Yes. 384 00:33:23,902 --> 00:33:25,537 ELI: I had no idea. 385 00:33:25,637 --> 00:33:29,841 So then, I get really turned on by Tech-scouts. 386 00:33:29,941 --> 00:33:31,110 -Wait, what? -Yes. 387 00:33:31,210 --> 00:33:32,611 ELI: Tech scouts are my- 388 00:33:32,711 --> 00:33:33,979 ROXY: Really? Why? 389 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,414 Because I got and I feel like I have to do the 390 00:33:35,514 --> 00:33:37,249 song and dance and it's just a bunch of people 391 00:33:37,349 --> 00:33:38,717 talking about where they're going to park the trucks. 392 00:33:38,817 --> 00:33:39,985 ROXY: Really? 393 00:33:40,086 --> 00:33:41,087 ELI: Yeah. 394 00:33:41,153 --> 00:33:43,789 I do my, literally, song and dance, when I do 395 00:33:43,889 --> 00:33:46,692 my tech scout, I block through everything, 396 00:33:46,792 --> 00:33:48,094 I already have my blocking done. 397 00:33:48,194 --> 00:33:50,562 I look for a place that inspires me visually 398 00:33:50,662 --> 00:33:53,199 and then I could see it, and then I could see, 399 00:33:53,299 --> 00:33:54,800 what is the physical relationship 400 00:33:54,900 --> 00:33:56,502 between these characters. 401 00:33:56,602 --> 00:33:58,337 Anybody can do Master-Coverage Coverage, 402 00:33:58,437 --> 00:33:59,471 anyone can do that. 403 00:33:59,571 --> 00:34:01,207 You can-filmmaker can do that. 404 00:34:01,307 --> 00:34:02,441 ELI: Of course. 405 00:34:02,541 --> 00:34:05,244 But how do you tell it in a way, masterfully, right? 406 00:34:05,344 --> 00:34:07,113 So for me, what is the intentional decision 407 00:34:07,179 --> 00:34:08,914 behind movement, what is the intentional-- 408 00:34:09,014 --> 00:34:10,248 what is the intention behind-like, you say 409 00:34:10,349 --> 00:34:13,119 so much with so little, and as I'm getting older, 410 00:34:13,152 --> 00:34:15,987 like the spectacle, I'm like stripping away 411 00:34:16,121 --> 00:34:17,223 more and more fat. 412 00:34:17,322 --> 00:34:19,024 So, the simplicity, you know- 413 00:34:19,125 --> 00:34:20,126 Yeah, it's interesting it felt like-you know, 414 00:34:20,192 --> 00:34:24,396 what I would describe as muscular, macho, 415 00:34:24,496 --> 00:34:27,733 Camera-diploma, and carry the bomb 416 00:34:27,833 --> 00:34:32,138 or Gentoo going over the house in tane-brick 417 00:34:32,204 --> 00:34:33,572 I'm a big fan. 418 00:34:33,672 --> 00:34:36,408 I was always trying to do-like this way Boogie Nights shot. 419 00:34:36,507 --> 00:34:38,577 And then I was like, just put the camera here, just 420 00:34:38,677 --> 00:34:40,146 leave their face. 421 00:34:40,179 --> 00:34:41,713 The face is doing the work, the dialogue's doing 422 00:34:41,813 --> 00:34:43,949 the work, sometimes you can do it and sometimes 423 00:34:44,049 --> 00:34:46,351 you stay out of the way and let camera- 424 00:34:46,452 --> 00:34:47,886 let the actor tell the story. 425 00:34:47,985 --> 00:34:49,621 Are you a planner or are you an in the moment person? 426 00:34:49,721 --> 00:34:51,257 It depends. 427 00:34:51,357 --> 00:34:53,159 For a kill, I genuinely need to plan things 428 00:34:53,225 --> 00:34:57,729 technically, um, but as-I sort of went through being 429 00:34:57,829 --> 00:35:00,766 an actor for Tarantino, watching his process. 430 00:35:00,866 --> 00:35:04,236 I was like, oh no, the best thing that I like to 431 00:35:04,336 --> 00:35:06,172 do is go in there with the actress and rehearse it, 432 00:35:06,272 --> 00:35:07,806 rehearse it, rehearse it, until you have it down 433 00:35:07,906 --> 00:35:10,809 like you do in a one act, and then bring in the 434 00:35:10,909 --> 00:35:12,411 camera work and start to do it. 435 00:35:12,511 --> 00:35:15,181 Sometimes the location and time doesn't allow that, 436 00:35:15,281 --> 00:35:17,916 but I love-if I'm doing practically, 437 00:35:18,016 --> 00:35:19,251 that's my favorite way to shoot now. 438 00:35:19,351 --> 00:35:20,886 I used to be planning out everything, 439 00:35:20,986 --> 00:35:22,454 but then you know- 440 00:35:22,554 --> 00:35:23,989 What is your favorite way to do it? 441 00:35:24,089 --> 00:35:25,891 Do you walk in and run it with the actors, 442 00:35:25,991 --> 00:35:27,493 or do you have all the shots in your head, 443 00:35:27,593 --> 00:35:28,427 and you make them go? 444 00:35:28,527 --> 00:35:29,628 ROXY: Same as you. 445 00:35:29,728 --> 00:35:32,698 I'm aligning a lot with what you're saying, 446 00:35:32,798 --> 00:35:34,466 I think back when I was a lot younger 447 00:35:34,566 --> 00:35:37,369 and a lot more insecure, I plan out everything, 448 00:35:37,469 --> 00:35:40,639 I was a lot less-I was more ridged about things. 449 00:35:40,739 --> 00:35:43,742 But now I trust myself to point where, I'm like, 450 00:35:43,842 --> 00:35:45,977 what is the core element of this scene, what is it 451 00:35:46,077 --> 00:35:48,747 that I'm trying to get, I can do it in a very 452 00:35:48,847 --> 00:35:51,283 simple way, that is so much better than all 453 00:35:51,383 --> 00:35:53,585 the superfluous, like extra seasoning 454 00:35:53,685 --> 00:35:54,653 on the dish, you know? 455 00:35:54,753 --> 00:35:57,289 ELI: But the truth is, as you get older and more 456 00:35:57,389 --> 00:35:59,225 experienced, you gain mastery, and that mastery 457 00:35:59,325 --> 00:36:01,627 only comes from sitting in the edit room and going, 458 00:36:01,727 --> 00:36:02,828 you know what? [deep sigh] 459 00:36:02,928 --> 00:36:06,732 -and you cut that shot, that beautiful entrance 460 00:36:06,832 --> 00:36:09,235 into the club, and this one crosses here, 461 00:36:09,301 --> 00:36:11,837 you're doing your Good Fella's corpus shot. 462 00:36:11,937 --> 00:36:13,405 Yeah, you spent 10 hours doing that. 463 00:36:13,505 --> 00:36:14,540 [laughter] 464 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,408 You spent 10 hours, you look at the producers, 465 00:36:16,508 --> 00:36:17,943 you just go, sorry guys. 466 00:36:18,043 --> 00:36:19,378 ROXY: You just need a little bit of salt. 467 00:36:19,478 --> 00:36:22,581 I could have just started on a close-up, it could've worked. 468 00:36:22,681 --> 00:36:23,915 Just cut right to that. 469 00:36:24,015 --> 00:36:26,252 But that's, you know, you start to know that about yourself, 470 00:36:26,285 --> 00:36:27,886 of going, okay, why don't I just focus on 471 00:36:27,986 --> 00:36:29,621 what I want. 472 00:36:29,721 --> 00:36:31,257 So talk about the film within the film. 473 00:36:31,290 --> 00:36:33,859 ROXY: Oh my gosh, so something that I really 474 00:36:33,959 --> 00:36:37,095 freakin' loved about this story was time travel, 475 00:36:37,263 --> 00:36:41,967 and how a space has so much history and so many things 476 00:36:42,067 --> 00:36:44,069 have taken place within' these walls, 477 00:36:44,169 --> 00:36:47,005 and they're still here, you know, that magnetic energy 478 00:36:47,105 --> 00:36:49,174 of what was here, that's why we have ghosts, 479 00:36:49,275 --> 00:36:50,609 and that's why we have entities, 480 00:36:50,709 --> 00:36:51,810 and that's why we have history, 481 00:36:51,910 --> 00:36:52,844 and that's why we have stories. 482 00:36:52,944 --> 00:36:56,348 So to come into the perspective of this Mom 483 00:36:56,448 --> 00:36:57,683 whose starting this new life with her son, 484 00:36:57,783 --> 00:36:59,651 it's not in the episode, 485 00:36:59,751 --> 00:37:01,720 but we talked about it, that like, 486 00:37:01,820 --> 00:37:04,756 the husband recently passed, so she got like 487 00:37:04,856 --> 00:37:07,859 this really great opportunity, never buy 488 00:37:07,959 --> 00:37:09,194 something that's too good to be true, right? 489 00:37:09,295 --> 00:37:10,896 There's always something attached to its history, 490 00:37:10,996 --> 00:37:13,532 and through this discovery process. 491 00:37:13,632 --> 00:37:17,303 Oh yeah, like she found a film in the backyard, 492 00:37:17,336 --> 00:37:18,904 oh it shows like, a murder. 493 00:37:19,004 --> 00:37:20,706 Like in real-time at the time, 494 00:37:20,806 --> 00:37:23,575 and then putting the clues together. 495 00:37:23,675 --> 00:37:26,445 Ethan and Jus we're so good about planting clues 496 00:37:26,545 --> 00:37:28,780 throughout the structure of this script, 497 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,449 these are connecting the dots, 498 00:37:30,549 --> 00:37:32,584 and nothing was a coincidence, 499 00:37:32,684 --> 00:37:34,886 and then, oh you're living in this space 500 00:37:34,986 --> 00:37:37,188 that has committed these ritualistic crimes, 501 00:37:37,323 --> 00:37:42,027 and how time and space are starting to sort of cross-over. 502 00:37:42,127 --> 00:37:44,162 ELI: And then shooting in a different period. 503 00:37:44,330 --> 00:37:46,598 ROXY: Yes, and that was amazing too. 504 00:37:46,698 --> 00:37:48,934 Talk about, different colours, different camera 505 00:37:49,034 --> 00:37:50,201 language, right? 506 00:37:50,336 --> 00:37:52,571 At what point does everything become locked off 507 00:37:52,671 --> 00:37:54,906 and still, that you have no ability to make 508 00:37:55,006 --> 00:37:56,842 decisions over your movement right? 509 00:37:56,942 --> 00:37:58,844 Or anytime there's a projector, 510 00:37:58,944 --> 00:38:00,546 that's when we transcend time. 511 00:38:01,913 --> 00:38:04,115 Help me, Georgia! 512 00:38:04,215 --> 00:38:05,150 It's fun shooting something 513 00:38:05,250 --> 00:38:06,352 that's being shown on a projector, 514 00:38:06,418 --> 00:38:08,387 because it feels like you can kind of do anything. 515 00:38:08,487 --> 00:38:10,889 It's like, I was in Bastards, 516 00:38:10,989 --> 00:38:12,190 like getting back to the Nation's Pride, 517 00:38:12,358 --> 00:38:13,659 the Nazi's propaganda. 518 00:38:13,759 --> 00:38:15,894 Quinton had me shoot that and it was just so freeing, 519 00:38:15,994 --> 00:38:17,996 it's almost like there's no rules. 520 00:38:18,096 --> 00:38:20,532 It's just got to be this black and white movie, 521 00:38:20,632 --> 00:38:23,735 so talk about shooting, what's in the projector? 522 00:38:23,835 --> 00:38:26,237 ROXY: Oh my god, it felt like we were doing two 523 00:38:26,372 --> 00:38:29,174 different movies, and that was so great because, 524 00:38:29,274 --> 00:38:32,611 you really get to challenge yourself, it's a ritual, right? 525 00:38:32,711 --> 00:38:34,112 So then as a choreographer, 526 00:38:34,212 --> 00:38:37,015 I'm thinking, you know, like, not Busby Berkeley entirely, 527 00:38:37,115 --> 00:38:38,750 but you're just thinking about 528 00:38:38,850 --> 00:38:40,018 the movement of these rituals, 529 00:38:40,118 --> 00:38:42,554 you know, these cultists when they go down. 530 00:38:42,654 --> 00:38:46,291 What do they want, what are they doing, 531 00:38:46,392 --> 00:38:48,860 what is it for, and how the movement informs that? 532 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,898 And also working with Oliver, who was the sacrifice. 533 00:38:52,998 --> 00:38:55,066 Like, he had to be so physical. 534 00:38:55,166 --> 00:38:58,937 I push these actors like crazy, I'm just like, 535 00:38:59,037 --> 00:39:01,272 you got to let me know when to stop, you need to let me 536 00:39:01,407 --> 00:39:02,441 know what your boundary. 537 00:39:02,541 --> 00:39:03,609 Because I'm going to make you go there 538 00:39:03,709 --> 00:39:04,810 -Yeah. -You know what I'm saying? 539 00:39:04,910 --> 00:39:07,913 ROXY: And so it's like, the brutality of it, like, 540 00:39:08,013 --> 00:39:09,715 what I love about horror is that it just gives you 541 00:39:09,815 --> 00:39:14,052 a shortcut and maybe it's because I'm afraid of a 542 00:39:14,152 --> 00:39:16,722 lot of things, so I get to make horror films 543 00:39:16,822 --> 00:39:18,056 as a way to control. 544 00:39:18,156 --> 00:39:19,691 Yeah, of course, that's why we all do it. 545 00:39:19,791 --> 00:39:22,093 It's hard dealing with fear of the world 546 00:39:22,193 --> 00:39:24,062 and things that are beyond our control. 547 00:39:24,162 --> 00:39:26,498 So how did your brain work, you're like, 548 00:39:26,598 --> 00:39:27,966 today we're shooting this time period, 549 00:39:28,066 --> 00:39:29,134 today we're shooting this time period, 550 00:39:29,234 --> 00:39:30,669 or was it like a break? 551 00:39:30,769 --> 00:39:32,771 Was it like, oh this is fun, I get to go-- 552 00:39:32,871 --> 00:39:35,173 was it stressful, was it freeing, 553 00:39:35,273 --> 00:39:37,443 or was it inspiring to you to sort of bounce between? 554 00:39:37,509 --> 00:39:40,178 ROXY: It's-I'm always excited Eli, like nothing 555 00:39:40,278 --> 00:39:41,447 scares me. 556 00:39:41,513 --> 00:39:44,049 Like, I come from micro-budget, so I think 557 00:39:44,149 --> 00:39:45,817 limitations are freeing. 558 00:39:45,917 --> 00:39:49,020 And so, doing the 1930's stuff, 559 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,757 we did, you know, 4:3, right, so we made sure 560 00:39:51,857 --> 00:39:53,759 everything was blocked within' the 4:3 aspect ratio, 561 00:39:53,859 --> 00:39:56,127 everything was shot from that static perspective. 562 00:39:56,227 --> 00:39:57,328 ELI: Isn't it fun shooting that way? 563 00:39:58,129 --> 00:39:59,798 ROXY: It's so great, it's so great. 564 00:39:59,898 --> 00:40:03,702 I just-I just love how your mind expands even 565 00:40:03,802 --> 00:40:05,537 with a choice like that, you know? 566 00:40:05,637 --> 00:40:08,373 And I'm always learning something new. 567 00:40:08,474 --> 00:40:10,141 I feel very humbled because, like, as 568 00:40:10,241 --> 00:40:12,644 a filmmaker you get to be a student for life. 569 00:40:12,744 --> 00:40:13,812 Sure. 570 00:40:13,912 --> 00:40:16,247 You know, so it's like, oh, what would they shoot? 571 00:40:16,347 --> 00:40:17,716 Would it be more home-cammy? 572 00:40:17,816 --> 00:40:19,918 It wouldn't be so elegantly cut together, 573 00:40:20,018 --> 00:40:21,753 like that's not how it would be, and like 574 00:40:21,853 --> 00:40:23,689 honoring the authentic way of how- 575 00:40:23,789 --> 00:40:26,357 ELI: Yeah, it would be like bad filmmaking. 576 00:40:26,458 --> 00:40:27,793 ELI: It wouldn't be what we consider good filmmaking, 577 00:40:27,893 --> 00:40:28,927 but it has to be authentic. 578 00:40:29,027 --> 00:40:30,996 Because why would they- if suddenly, 579 00:40:31,096 --> 00:40:33,431 then it's you are showing off, and not being true to 580 00:40:33,532 --> 00:40:34,900 the material. 581 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,402 Let me ask you, for people that are learning 582 00:40:37,503 --> 00:40:42,107 about you from The Haunted Museum, uh, 583 00:40:42,207 --> 00:40:44,442 is horror your passion, is that your mainly? 584 00:40:44,543 --> 00:40:45,944 Because you also did a Hallmark movie, 585 00:40:46,044 --> 00:40:47,145 you also done other things, 586 00:40:47,245 --> 00:40:50,415 uh, what do you like to do, do you have one 587 00:40:50,516 --> 00:40:51,650 particular thing you want to do? 588 00:40:51,750 --> 00:40:52,851 Or do you enjoy doing everything? 589 00:40:52,951 --> 00:40:54,319 ROXY: Um, it's so interesting. 590 00:40:54,419 --> 00:40:55,721 I never got to grow up watching horror movies, 591 00:40:55,821 --> 00:40:58,957 I always been a really big scaredy cat and then I did 592 00:40:59,057 --> 00:41:00,859 my first feature, a micro-budget feature 593 00:41:00,959 --> 00:41:01,993 called "The Tribe". 594 00:41:02,093 --> 00:41:04,395 I made for $100,000 a few years ago. 595 00:41:04,530 --> 00:41:08,033 And ever since then, the industry has branded me as 596 00:41:08,133 --> 00:41:12,638 a genre-filmmaker, and I felt like 597 00:41:12,738 --> 00:41:14,305 I was just afraid of myself. 598 00:41:14,405 --> 00:41:16,975 Because the more, filmmaking has been such 599 00:41:17,075 --> 00:41:20,612 a healing journey for me, and genre specifically 600 00:41:20,712 --> 00:41:23,782 is a space that I feel very safe in, and it just 601 00:41:23,882 --> 00:41:26,618 allows me to go even deeper into the subject 602 00:41:26,718 --> 00:41:28,987 matter that I want to explore. 603 00:41:29,087 --> 00:41:29,921 Right now I'm very interested in 604 00:41:30,021 --> 00:41:31,422 female-perspectives and experiences 605 00:41:31,557 --> 00:41:33,058 in the 40's and 50's. 606 00:41:33,158 --> 00:41:35,727 Older women and their stories. 607 00:41:35,827 --> 00:41:38,830 I'm also interested in fetishizations in 608 00:41:38,930 --> 00:41:41,833 Asian-female bodies, I want to bring back 609 00:41:41,933 --> 00:41:42,968 neurotic thrillers. 610 00:41:43,068 --> 00:41:45,170 ELI: Hey, knock-knock. 611 00:41:45,270 --> 00:41:46,137 I was trying to do the same thing. 612 00:41:46,237 --> 00:41:47,639 Yeah! 613 00:41:47,739 --> 00:41:49,107 ROXY: It was amazing though. Come on. 614 00:41:49,207 --> 00:41:50,108 I wasn't fishing, but I'll take it. 615 00:41:50,208 --> 00:41:52,243 I love those movies. 616 00:41:52,343 --> 00:41:54,045 The Verhoeven. 617 00:41:54,145 --> 00:41:57,315 I'll take it. 618 00:41:57,415 --> 00:42:01,219 Um...Well I just want to say thank you so much for 619 00:42:01,319 --> 00:42:03,922 doing the episodes, I'm so such a fan of you 620 00:42:04,022 --> 00:42:05,624 as a director, as a writer, as a filmmaker, 621 00:42:05,724 --> 00:42:08,994 and as a human-being, and I cannot wait 622 00:42:09,094 --> 00:42:10,461 to see what you do next, whatever it is. 623 00:42:10,596 --> 00:42:11,897 Thank you Eli. Same here