1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:09,920 ♪ ♪ 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:19,280 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): There's nothing quite like the ocean 5 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:20,320 at first light. 6 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:26,360 It's a special place. 7 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,440 But you're always aware there may be bigger creatures 8 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:34,800 out there than you. 9 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,280 HEMSWORTH: I've spent a big part of my life in and around the ocean, 10 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,720 but I've never seen a shark when I've been surfing. 11 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,040 I've been called out of the water by the helicopters, 12 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,440 the shark spotters a couple of times. 13 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,800 Been in the water when other people have said 14 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:50,840 they've seen the shark. 15 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,880 But you definitely feel their presence. 16 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,520 I've had a couple of spooky moments where I'm 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,120 pretty certain that there was something 18 00:00:58,200 --> 00:00:59,920 swimming underneath me. 19 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,360 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): For me, sharks are some of the planet's most elegant and 20 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:15,960 magnificent creatures. 21 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,160 Unfortunately when we humans enter the water, 22 00:01:27,320 --> 00:01:29,720 they can present unique dangers. 23 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,120 In Australia, where I live, 24 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,000 we've just had the worst spate of fatal shark 25 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,120 encounters in a century. 26 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:39,920 REPORTER (over TV): The community is on edge this morning, 27 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,440 after a man was killed by a great white shark... 28 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,200 REPORTER 2 (over TV): A boy, just 15, dead after a shark attack... 29 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,760 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): As someone who loves sharks, 30 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,120 and being in the water, 31 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,360 I want to get beneath that reputation. 32 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,200 See what makes these creatures tick, 33 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,480 and maybe even meet one in person. 34 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,000 I want to find out if we can live together, 35 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,920 without doing each other harm. 36 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,360 DIRECTOR (off-screen): So if someone says the word sharks to you Chris... 37 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:22,240 HEMSWORTH: Yeah. 38 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:23,920 DIRECTOR (off-screen): What comes to mind? 39 00:02:24,640 --> 00:02:27,520 HEMSWORTH: I have a very mixed kind of gut reaction 40 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,800 to sharks these days, you know. 41 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,960 Obviously I grew up watching Jaws and plenty of films like that, 42 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,360 that scare the hell out of you, and you know, 43 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,520 make you think twice about getting in the ocean. 44 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,240 But we need to figure out a way to work and 45 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,160 live in harmony with them, so you know, 46 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,640 we're protected but also so are they. 47 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,880 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): Growing up in paradise, 48 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,360 you learn about the beauty and importance of the natural 49 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,240 world pretty early on. 50 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,840 That's me, with my mum, dad and big brother. 51 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,280 I was always encouraged to appreciate the 52 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,120 wilderness around me. 53 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,480 It means generally I don't think twice about 54 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,640 getting in the water. 55 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,680 No matter what might be lurking out there. 56 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,080 Where, are you thinking, here or... 57 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,400 MICK: I'm thinking here, down this way. 58 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,480 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): My mate Mick Fanning shares a similar love of the ocean, 59 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,880 despite some troubling first-hand experience. 60 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,280 MICK: I don't know. HEMSWORTH: Yeah. 61 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:48,600 MICK: We'll figure it out once we get out there. 62 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,560 HEMSWORTH: Any sharks? MICK: Probably. 63 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,560 Yeah, we're in an area that is known for sharks. 64 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,000 HEMSWORTH: Yeah. 65 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,160 MICK: Been a bit more activity around lately. 66 00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:59,480 HEMSWORTH: There has, hasn't there? 67 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,320 MICK: Maybe we'll go and do it before they show up. 68 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,160 HEMSWORTH: That's right. Shall we get out there? 69 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,000 MICK: Yeah, let's go do it. 70 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,680 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): Now I'm competitive by nature, 71 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,120 so I love to think I can keep up with Mick. 72 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,000 Just one problem. 73 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,320 He's a three time world champion. 74 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,640 MICK: Is it like a real heat? 75 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,080 HEMSWORTH: This is the world title. 76 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:21,320 MICK: Awesome. 77 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,840 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): Maybe intimidation is my best bet. 78 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,960 HEMSWORTH: We're friends now, but once we hit the water, we're enemies. 79 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,600 MICK: You're not riding that, are you? 80 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,480 HEMSWORTH: I am. Are you riding that? 81 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,160 (laughter). 82 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,320 HEMSWORTH: I hope you fall off. 83 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,120 (laughter). 84 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,280 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): Nope, that didn't work. 85 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,760 Maybe it's time to take up a different sport. 86 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,640 Bowling, cricket, tennis... 87 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,400 I think it's fair to say I'm obsessed with surfing. 88 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,400 I have been since the first time I tried it with my dad 89 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,560 and my brothers when I was six years old. 90 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,240 You get so wrapped up in the waves, it's easy to forget, 91 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,600 we're really just visitors. 92 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,600 Below us, a whole other world... 93 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,240 Where sharks have been feeding for hundreds of 94 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,640 millions of years. 95 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,920 And it's here our paths sometimes cross. 96 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,600 HEMSWORTH: You've probably talked about this about 500 times 97 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:45,840 since it happened... 98 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,200 MICK: A few. 99 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:49,760 HEMSWORTH: A few times. 100 00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:51,480 Do you want to walk us through it? 101 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,400 MICK: It was a beautiful day. 102 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,000 It was extremely sunny, water was picture perfect clear. 103 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,800 And you know, we're in the middle of a surfing event. 104 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,960 You know, we had just started the final with Julian Wilson. 105 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:08,960 MAN (over TV): Beautiful carve to start from Wilson. 106 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,720 MICK: And I'd been sitting there for probably like four 107 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,160 or five minutes. 108 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,360 And I was just about to move and then I just heard this 109 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,920 splash behind me, and I was like, oh no. 110 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:31,000 And I try and jump on my board and then all of a sudden, 111 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,040 I just get hit from this side. 112 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,880 I just caught the tail straight to the face. 113 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,600 And I'm just like, I'm out of here. 114 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:41,920 It was... 115 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,080 But then I was like, hang on, if I just keep swimming, 116 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,440 this thing could just come and take my legs, 117 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,680 so I was just trying to get myself up as high as I 118 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,880 possibly could to see if it was coming up. 119 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:54,920 HEMSWORTH: Oh wow. 120 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,000 MICK: And luckily it didn't. 121 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:58,400 HEMSWORTH: What kind of shark was it? 122 00:06:58,480 --> 00:06:59,680 MICK: It was a great white. HEMSWORTH: A great white? 123 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,720 MICK: Yeah. 124 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,000 HEMSWORTH: How long before the jet ski picked you up? 125 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,040 MICK: Oh it would have been probably like maybe 30 seconds. 126 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:09,840 HEMSWORTH: Oh, that's the longest 30 seconds of your life. 127 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,240 MICK: Yeah. 128 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:12,400 HEMSWORTH: After that happened, 129 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,200 did you find you have more trepidation, 130 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,200 hesitation getting in the water. 131 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,600 MICK: Definitely things have changed now. 132 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,760 Like, I see everything on the water now. 133 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,720 And I'm still scared of hearing splashes behind me. 134 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,000 It just, I jump. 135 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:37,080 And even if the waves are incredibly perfect, 136 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,000 if I just don't feel right, I just go in these days. 137 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:41,040 HEMSWORTH: Yeah, yeah. 138 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,440 MICK: It's just, you know, just... 139 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,480 It's not worth the risk. 140 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,800 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): Mick was extremely lucky, 141 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,600 because encounters like these can turn deadly. 142 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,400 Sharks can bite with such power and speed, 143 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,680 even if they don't intend to kill, 144 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,360 the outcome can be catastrophic. 145 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,160 REPORTER (over TV): Good evening, a surfer has been mauled and his 146 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,120 board obliterated by a five meter great white shark, 147 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,120 a predator that came out of nowhere. 148 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,800 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): In 2020 Australia suffered a record eight fatal 149 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,320 shark encounters, over half along the east coast, 150 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:50,880 where I live. 151 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,600 REPORTER (over TV): The hunt is on for the great white shark that 152 00:08:53,680 --> 00:08:56,160 killed a 46 year old surfer at Greenmount Beach at 153 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:57,960 Coolangatta on the Gold Coast. 154 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,320 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): Every loss of life, devastating. 155 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,920 REPORTER (over TV): A loving father, husband and keen fisherman, 156 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,080 mauled by a shark off Fraser Island. 157 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,480 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): With huge repercussions in these coastal communities. 158 00:09:11,560 --> 00:09:13,240 REPORTER (over radio): It's the second fatal shark attack 159 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,000 in the state's north in just over a month. 160 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,600 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): Despite these tragedies, 161 00:09:20,680 --> 00:09:22,920 it remains highly unlikely that any of us in Australia 162 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:24,920 will be bitten by a shark. 163 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,320 But it does seem that human encounters with 164 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,520 them are increasing. 165 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,000 So what exactly is happening out there in our oceans that 166 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:39,680 can explain this? 167 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,200 PAUL: So if we're starting here on the top end of Queensland, 168 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,120 come down the east coast of Australia... 169 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,560 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): Paul Butcher is one of Australia's top shark scientists. 170 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,000 He's spent the last 20 years researching their changing 171 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:57,800 behavior and movements. 172 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,960 PAUL: For white sharks, the migration route is as 173 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,400 a group during April, May, up the east coast, 174 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,240 and we've got a location here called Fraser Island. 175 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,440 Once you get to October, November, December, 176 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,960 they're turning around and coming back down to Victorian 177 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,640 and Tasmanian waters. 178 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,880 The big thing is we've got this very heavy populated 179 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,360 coast line through here, so we've got large numbers of 180 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,200 people now using the east coast of Australia, 181 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,200 warm water, beautiful conditions, great waves. 182 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,320 HEMSWORTH: So it's just that there's more people in the water. 183 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,200 PAUL: More people, but we're definitely seeing more sharks 184 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:29,480 up against the coastline. 185 00:10:29,560 --> 00:10:30,760 HEMSWORTH: So why do you think they're coming 186 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:31,720 closer to shore? 187 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,200 Is that the water temperatures? 188 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,200 PAUL: So we've got this warm current that comes down along 189 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:36,840 the east Australian coast. 190 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,000 That nearly runs the entire year now, where previously, 191 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,000 over decades and decades, 192 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,080 it just runs during summer and spring. 193 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,280 HEMSWORTH: And it runs the entire year, 194 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:45,640 you think because of... 195 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:46,880 PAUL: Global warming. 196 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,920 So we've now got those warm temperatures, 197 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,200 we're starting to see more animals along the coastline, 198 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,160 which is an increase in sharks as well. 199 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,920 So it's inevitable that we're going to see white sharks and 200 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,120 other sharks interacting with human users in the water. 201 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,680 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): It now seems like our altering of the climate 202 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,880 might be drawing an increasing number of sharks 203 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,200 closer to shore. 204 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,920 Our world, it seems, is having a big impact on theirs. 205 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:23,760 The best way to really get a handle on 206 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,120 what's going on down there... 207 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:26,840 HEMSWORTH (over radio): Oh wow. 208 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,240 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): Is to take a dip and see it for yourself. 209 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,600 HEMSWORTH: So we're about to go and see the legendary shark 210 00:11:39,680 --> 00:11:41,240 conservationist Valerie Taylor, 211 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:42,920 and we're going to go diving, 212 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:44,640 hopefully see some sharks, 213 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,640 hopefully some friendly sharks. 214 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,480 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): Valerie Taylor started her career as a champion spear fisher. 215 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,480 But she soon fell in love with the ocean, 216 00:12:00,560 --> 00:12:02,720 and dedicated her life to conservation. 217 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,560 She swapped her spear for a camera, 218 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,400 and started making marine documentaries with 219 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,440 her husband Ron. 220 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,320 VALERIE (off-screen): Great whites are most dangerous, 221 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,480 when they feel themselves to be trapped. 222 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,560 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): They specialized in filming sharks in their natural habitat. 223 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:26,000 VALERIE (off-screen): It was an extremely risky method of filming these big predators. 224 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,320 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): And even helped shoot the Hollywood blockbuster 225 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,000 Jaws. 226 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,680 I grew up watching Valerie's shows, and at 85, 227 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,000 she still cares deeply about the health of our oceans. 228 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:40,920 Hey Valerie. 229 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:41,880 VALERIE: G'day Chris. 230 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:43,560 HEMSWORTH: Good to see you. How's it going? 231 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,320 VALERIE: Fine. HEMSWORTH: Great. 232 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:46,640 So what's the plan today? 233 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:51,080 VALERIE: We're going out to Fish Rock, and if we're lucky, 234 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,360 we'll see grey nurse sharks. 235 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:55,280 HEMSWORTH: Fantastic. 236 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,000 So what's the temperament of a grey nurse shark? 237 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,480 VALERIE: It's a very easygoing shark. 238 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:00,360 HEMSWORTH: Easygoing, yeah. 239 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,040 VALERIE: Yeah. They will come close. 240 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:02,960 HEMSWORTH: Great. 241 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,120 VALERIE: Don't make sharp movements, you know, 242 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:06,360 like this. 243 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:07,280 Don't do that. 244 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,320 They'll thump your tail, you'll hear it. 245 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:10,320 HEMSWORTH: Yeah, right. 246 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,840 VALERIE: And they go away, it means they're cross. 247 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:13,720 HEMSWORTH: Okay. 248 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:14,880 VALERIE: But you're not going to do that. 249 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,160 HEMSWORTH: We're not going to do that. 250 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:17,040 Okay. Great. 251 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:18,680 VALERIE: Well let's go. HEMSWORTH: Let's go. 252 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,760 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): Fish Rock, off the coast of New South Wales, 253 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,520 is a very special place for Val, 254 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,960 and the story of shark conservation. 255 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,040 And today is going to be her first visit back in 256 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:35,720 over a decade. 257 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:37,760 VALERIE: You look like you're in the tropics. 258 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,800 I look like I'm in Antarctica. 259 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,440 (laughter). 260 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:47,320 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): 50 years ago it was thought that grey nurse sharks were killers, 261 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:48,560 so they were culled, 262 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,480 and almost became extinct in Australia. 263 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:59,280 But Val started campaigning, and thanks to her efforts, 264 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,560 the grey nurse was the first species of shark in the world 265 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,400 to gain protection. 266 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,880 I don't think there's anyone out there who knows these 267 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:15,480 creatures better than Val. 268 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,560 VALERIE: Sharks are the garbage men of the sea. 269 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,560 They eat the old, the sick and the unwary. 270 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:23,640 They don't eat people. 271 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:25,120 They bite them. 272 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:26,320 HEMSWORTH: And spit them out. 273 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:27,320 VALERIE: Spit them out. 274 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:28,760 Wrong thing, made a mistake. 275 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,600 They don't have hands, they can't go and say, ooh... 276 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,080 Oh nice. 277 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:34,200 (laughter). 278 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:40,760 VALERIE: They bite and they have to feel with their teeth. 279 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,840 You know, if I bit you, no, not me, if a shark 280 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,680 HEMSWORTH: You can bite me, it's alright. 281 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,400 VALERIE: Bit you with its teeth, 282 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,240 your first instinct would be to pull away, 283 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,800 but if you stay still, they'll let go. 284 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,440 But nobody can stay still. 285 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,080 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): Now I'm a total diving novice... 286 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:06,440 HEMSWORTH: Should I be nervous? 287 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,240 (laughter). 288 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,520 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): But I reckon I'm in safe hands. 289 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,600 Val's completed over 5,000 dives in the last 60 years, 290 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,440 and knows this place like the back of her hand. 291 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,160 VALERIE (over radio): It's a bit murky down here. 292 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,240 Chris, are you okay? 293 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,320 HEMSWORTH (over radio): Yep, all good. 294 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,680 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): Although 40 feet underwater, looking for giant sharks, 295 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,800 I do wish I could see a bit further. 296 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,280 Val says the grey nurses we're hoping to see can grow 297 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,160 up to 12 feet long, 298 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,640 and live for up to 40 years. 299 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:10,480 VALERIE (over radio): Oh, look, look. 300 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,120 HEMSWORTH (over radio): Oh wow. 301 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,240 VALERIE (over radio): That's a big female. 302 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:22,400 HEMSWORTH (over radio): Incredible. 303 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,400 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): Coming face to face with them, 304 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:42,040 it's hard to put into words the serene beauty 305 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,440 of these magnificent creatures. 306 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,680 Up close you see the grey nurse's jaws are filled with 307 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,800 over 100 needle-sharp teeth. 308 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:04,800 HEMSWORTH (over radio): Just amazing. 309 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,640 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): But luckily, they only eat small fish and 310 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,400 crustaceans from the sea floor. 311 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,960 It's such a privilege seeing these massive 312 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:20,920 creatures up close. 313 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,040 Being under the waves, 314 00:17:25,120 --> 00:17:29,320 rather than surfing on top really does give you a new perspective. 315 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:36,400 VALERIE: How was it? 316 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:37,520 HEMSWORTH: It's amazing. 317 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,480 Well, it was amazing for me. 318 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:45,320 I saw one and then it kind of swam off pretty quick, 319 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,560 and we swam in a different direction and there were, 320 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,760 I don't know, three or four, or five, but... 321 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:52,760 VALERIE: One of them was huge. 322 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:54,400 HEMSWORTH: One really big one, yeah, yeah. 323 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,360 VALERIE: Yeah, biggest grey nurse I've ever seen actually. 324 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,320 HEMSWORTH: That was the biggest grey nurse shark you've seen? 325 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,280 VALERIE: Ever. HEMSWORTH: Oh wow. 326 00:18:00,360 --> 00:18:01,680 The big female? 327 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,240 VALERIE: I think it might have been a female actually, 328 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:07,320 because usually you can see the... 329 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:08,600 male parts. 330 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,960 How do you say that on television? 331 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,000 HEMSWORTH: The male parts, that'll do. 332 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:14,880 Bits and pieces. 333 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,160 VALERIE: Oh God Valerie, shut up. 334 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,360 (laughter). 335 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,520 VALERIE: I'm glad you saw them. 336 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,640 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): It's believed there are now only 2,000 grey nurse sharks left in 337 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,280 the whole of eastern Australia... 338 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,440 making this, a pretty special encounter. 339 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,560 HEMSWORTH: So that was, you know, beyond my expectation. 340 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,600 You definitely feel like this is their space and their home, 341 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,120 and you are a guest. 342 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,440 It's certainly not something that you're in control of, 343 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,480 nor an environment that you're able to manipulate, 344 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,000 you know, take power over. 345 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,720 You, you feel completely at the mercy of what's around you 346 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,360 with those creatures and that situation, 347 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:08,480 but at peace too at the same time. 348 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,000 I had no idea that I would feel that way and have even 349 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,400 more respect for the ocean and its beautiful creatures 350 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,280 that we need to protect. 351 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,760 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): Like so many other species of shark, 352 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,400 the grey nurses have been pushed to the 353 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,600 brink of extinction. 354 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,200 The question is, 355 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:35,040 what can we do to turn this huge problem around? 356 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,920 And critically, for us ocean lovers, 357 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,840 are there ways we can protect humans without harming sharks? 358 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,600 HEMSWORTH: Here sharky-sharky- sharky sharky-sharky. 359 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,200 ♪ ♪ 360 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,720 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): Sharks are always on the move. 361 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,680 Their predatory instincts often draw them to the 362 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,360 coastline to feed on fish and marine life... 363 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,120 making encounters with us more likely. 364 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,320 So for many years, 365 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,160 some authorities have set nets to capture sharks, 366 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,320 to stop them reaching popular beaches. 367 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,520 But they've had devastating consequences. 368 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,000 Conservationist Val Taylor has seen the terrible impact 369 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,400 of shark nets first hand. 370 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,760 VALERIE: Although they do protect the beach to a certain extent, 371 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,800 what I dislike about them, 372 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:54,400 well I really loathe about them, is they bycatch. 373 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:55,920 HEMSWORTH: Yeah. 374 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:01,400 VALARIE: All that harmless, beautiful marine life that is killed. 375 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:02,880 HEMSWORTH: So these are some videos of animals 376 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,640 being caught in the nets. 377 00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:07,160 VALERIE: Look at that, oh it's so sad, so sad. 378 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:08,440 HEMSWORTH: So sad, isn't it? 379 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,240 VALERIE: Look, it's alive. 380 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:11,920 HEMSWORTH: Yeah, isn't that awful? 381 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,280 VALERIE: It catches a lot of turtles. 382 00:21:13,360 --> 00:21:15,320 HEMSWORTH: Yeah. Wow, that's awful. 383 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,000 VALERIE: Yeah, all sorts of creatures in there. 384 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,480 HEMSWORTH: Yeah. 385 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,480 So these animals, they get caught, and then they die, right? 386 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:26,600 VALERIE: With sharks, they have to keep moving to aerate. 387 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,720 They actually take oxygen out of the ocean water. 388 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,720 And when they're trapped like that they can't do it. 389 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:38,320 Ron and I made ourselves very unpopular in our day because 390 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,320 we'd go out and cut the living animals out. 391 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,240 HEMSWORTH: And free them. VALERIE: And free them. 392 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:44,680 I had a very good pair of scissors. 393 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,600 It's easier with the scissors than with a knife. 394 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,240 And I'd just cut them out and free them. 395 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:53,600 I've only ever seen one really dangerous shark caught in the net, 396 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,440 because they can swim under them and around them. 397 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:03,480 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): The impact of these nets really is heartbreaking, 398 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,160 and as Val points out, 399 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,040 sharks can often swim around them anyway. 400 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:15,320 Thankfully, less damaging solutions are now starting to be used. 401 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,840 To find out more, I'm going back to shark expert 402 00:22:22,120 --> 00:22:23,640 Dr Paul Butcher. 403 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:25,800 HEMSWORTH: Hi boys. 404 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,000 PAUL: Hi Chris, welcome on board. 405 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,160 HEMSWORTH: Thank you. 406 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,400 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): Together with his team, he wants to show me a new 407 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,360 technique they're using to keep sharks and humans apart. 408 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,520 HAYDEN: Everyone holding on? 409 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,800 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): Alongside nets, parts of Australia have used 410 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,480 traps known as drumlines to control sharks. 411 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,160 Their fixed, baited hooks catch the animals, 412 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,280 which are then simply left to die. 413 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,920 But Paul's team is pioneering a new technology, 414 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,360 the smart drumline. 415 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:08,200 So when you say the smart drumlines versus the previous drumlines, 416 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,360 were the previous drumlines just set up to catch them? 417 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,040 PAUL: Yeah, they were designed to catch and kill. 418 00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:15,360 They set them the day before, check them the next day, 419 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,360 so the sharks are always dead. 420 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,640 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): Over the last 50 years, 421 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,000 this method has killed over 20,000 sharks 422 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,640 in Australian waters. 423 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,760 PAUL: So we're just approaching the first line. 424 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,320 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): The smart drumline program is different. 425 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:33,880 PAUL: Do you want to cut a bait? 426 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,880 HEMSWORTH: Yeah, sure. 427 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,400 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): It's designed to catch sharks but then tag and release them, 428 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,920 unharmed, back to the wild. 429 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,640 PAUL: Nice. 430 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,520 This is what we call the smart unit. 431 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,080 When a shark takes the bait, it triggers this magnet here, 432 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,960 within 30 seconds it's sending a signal to satellite, 433 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,360 and then we get a message on our phones. 434 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,560 We get to those sharks as quickly as we can, then tag, 435 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,080 release and let that animal go. 436 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,160 Then we can just... 437 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,600 HEMSWORTH: Launch the old fish. 438 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,400 PAUL: Go for it. 439 00:24:11,360 --> 00:24:13,080 HEMSWORTH: Boom. 440 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,280 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): Conservation like this requires a strong stomach, 441 00:24:16,360 --> 00:24:18,040 which I may not have. 442 00:24:18,120 --> 00:24:19,800 HEMSWORTH: Oh, my hands smell good. 443 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,040 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): But it's essential work. 444 00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:25,600 The tags Paul and his team attach not only monitor 445 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,640 sharks' movements, they're also connected to a coastal alarm system. 446 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,480 That means surfers and swimmers can be quickly 447 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,000 alerted to any danger. 448 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,280 PAUL: We set them just far enough offshore, 449 00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:39,600 which is 500 meters out, 450 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,880 which is pretty much just behind the beach break, 451 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,160 where we know the sharks are travelling up and down. 452 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,080 HEMSWORTH: So the smart drumline actually acts as 453 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,760 protection for the surfers. 454 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,000 PAUL: Yeah, our surfers and water uses know where they are, 455 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,200 and if they're in each day as well. 456 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,080 HEMSWORTH: Launch this out. PAUL: Yeah. 457 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,680 (whistles) 458 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,800 HEMSWORTH: Here, sharky-sharky-sharky sharky-sharky. 459 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,520 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): But as is often the case with marine research, 460 00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:07,120 it's all a bit of a waiting game. 461 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,400 Hopefully we'll catch one before I throw up. 462 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:12,480 HEMSWORTH: Feeling good. 463 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,000 A little seasick and queasy for a minute there, 464 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,040 but job done. 465 00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:17,840 What did we get, 23, 24 buoys in? 466 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,760 I feel confident, you know, that we've dropped enough 467 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,000 drums in the water so we'll be able to catch one 468 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,640 and tag one and... 469 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,440 fingers crossed. 470 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:27,560 Thanks boys. 471 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,120 I got the shark alert on my phone. 472 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,880 So looking forward to getting a shark and we'll 473 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,440 tag it and do our thing. 474 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:33,560 PAUL: Make sure that phone's on. 475 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:34,960 HEMSWORTH: I will. Thanks a lot. 476 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:35,840 PAUL: See you mate. 477 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,200 HEMSWORTH: See you guys. 478 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,640 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): The use of technology is encouraging. 479 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,480 But could there be other more traditional ways to live with sharks? 480 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,520 NICKOLLA: It's their domain, it's their home. 481 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,240 They've always been there. 482 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:51,960 HEMSWORTH: I couldn't agree with you more. 483 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,800 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): While I'm waiting for an alert, 484 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,120 I want to find out if there are simpler ways of 485 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,520 coexisting with sharks. 486 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,760 As a kid, my family and I lived in the Northern Territory, 487 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,120 in an indigenous Australian community. 488 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,640 Up there, wildlife was something to revere and respect. 489 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:33,160 Here on the east coast, those same values hold true. 490 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,880 NICKOLLA: I have an example of one of my artworks here, 491 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,640 which is all about country. 492 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:41,520 It was... 493 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,520 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): Local artist Nickolla Clark is an Arakwal 494 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,360 woman of the Bundjalung nation. 495 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,080 For over 20,000 years, her people have called the 496 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,880 area around Byron Bay their home, and have an intimate 497 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,680 understanding of both land and ocean. 498 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,000 HEMSWORTH: So we're here in Byron Bay, 499 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:00,920 I learned to dive at Julian Rocks. 500 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,480 It's beautiful out there. 501 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,480 Can you tell us the significance of Julian Rocks 502 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:05,960 to the Arakwal people? 503 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,120 NICKOLLA: It's a significant site to us, where our creator, 504 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,440 where he lays rest. 505 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,320 So we don't go on Julian Rocks, 506 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:12,520 we don't harm it, 507 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,120 we don't touch it, so it's pretty important. 508 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,400 HEMSWORTH: Yeah. 509 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:16,800 Do the Arakwal people have a big connection 510 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:17,960 the ocean specifically? 511 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,160 NICKOLLA: Yeah, so we're coastal people. 512 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,800 For us, living so close to the beach, 513 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,360 collecting bush foods and having the ocean to swim and 514 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,240 play, and we would live off the sea. 515 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,040 HEMSWORTH: Have you noticed more activity with 516 00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:30,560 sharks in particular? 517 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,840 NICKOLLA: There's definitely been an increase in activity 518 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,840 between people and the ocean, and sharks in particular. 519 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,520 And a lot of the places people actually go here on country is 520 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,080 they go to these beautiful beaches, 521 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,640 right next to rocky outcrops where sharks nest. 522 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,280 It's their domain, it's their home. 523 00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:49,440 They've always been there. 524 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,960 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): Over generations, the Arakwal people have gained 525 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,240 a detailed knowledge about when and where to avoid going in 526 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,160 the water to stay safe. 527 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:00,680 NICKOLLA: Here in Byron Bay, 528 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:01,960 it's really visible to see when they're feeding, 529 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,640 when there's feeding frenzies going on. 530 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,000 Traditionally in winter we wouldn't swim further than your knee height, 531 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,400 sharks are more active then. 532 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,160 That is a cultural signifier we'd have, 533 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,480 so coexisting is really important. 534 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:14,600 Like if we want to be here, 535 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:15,880 we're going to have to do that. 536 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,800 HEMSWORTH: Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more. 537 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,400 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): This ancient wisdom, 538 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:22,760 coupled with humane technologies, 539 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,440 offers a way to coexist with sharks, 540 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,720 close to our shores. 541 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,840 Unfortunately, the problems facing sharks around the world 542 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,840 are often more complex, and more serious. 543 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,000 Over the last 50 years, 544 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,320 there's been a 70% drop in the number of sharks 545 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,040 in the world's oceans. 546 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,760 The cause is our over-exploitation of the sea, 547 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,400 and the slaughter of tens of millions of sharks, 548 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,920 simply for their fins. 549 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,040 The reality is these beautiful animals have got more to fear 550 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,200 from us than we do from them. 551 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,000 I think like everybody who spends time in the ocean, 552 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:25,560 I've had the fear of sharks at times, and shark attacks, 553 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,800 and talking to people who have been very close or been 554 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,640 involved in an attack. 555 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,520 It certainly makes it even more real. 556 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,400 I think we should have a healthy respect for sharks, 557 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:41,200 and how dangerous they can be, but realize that we are in their environment, 558 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,080 and what's more scary is an ocean without sharks. 559 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,080 There's been an alert from one of the smart drumlines. 560 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,080 It means something's taken the bait. 561 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:11,120 Hopefully it'll be a chance to help with some shark conservation and also, 562 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,000 meet a great white face to face. 563 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,520 Is this exciting for you? 564 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,000 HAYDEN: It's always exciting for me. 565 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,000 It's the thrill of fishing and not knowing what's going 566 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,320 to be on the other end of the line. 567 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,880 HEMSWORTH: Yeah, right. It could be a jet ski. 568 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,000 HAYDEN: You'd hope not. 569 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,200 HEMSWORTH: It'll be my first time handling a shark. 570 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,520 PAUL: You're the number one man today, so yeah, shark 101, 571 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:32,840 you're going to be out there tagging. 572 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,040 HEMSWORTH: Put it in a headlock and I'll get the tail? 573 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,080 (laughter). 574 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,400 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): But as soon as we arrive, 575 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,800 it's clear something's not right. 576 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,160 HAYDEN: We just look for movement in the back bubble. 577 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,680 And when there's shark on, 578 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,960 they'll swim from side to side sometimes. 579 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,760 And to me, that's laying there with the wind. 580 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,560 PAUL: If you want to grab that bungee Chris and pull it in. 581 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,440 HEMSWORTH: Oh, where's my fish that I baited up? 582 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,920 PAUL: Bait's gone, so yeah, good signs but not what we wanted. 583 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,400 So to lose a full bait, we rarely have that happen. 584 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:13,800 HEMSWORTH: Do you reckon it might have something to do 585 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:14,920 with the person who baited it? 586 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,120 PAUL: Oh, not at all. 587 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,000 So let's get this baited up again. 588 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,480 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): It's disappointing. 589 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,720 But it's not yet game over. 590 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,120 PAUL: Throw it in there. 591 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,680 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): Hopefully we can tag one before the end of the day. 592 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,200 CHARLIE: Okay guys, the trial can start now. 593 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,680 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): In the meantime, I want to find out how we can 594 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,640 protect ourselves if a shark does attack. 595 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,680 I think it's fair to say, 596 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,280 however good we get at keeping humans and sharks apart in the ocean, 597 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,080 there will always be moments when we meet. 598 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,680 And in those worst case scenarios, when sharks bite, 599 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,760 is there anything that can be done? 600 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,080 Charlie Huveneers is a scientist who's thought more 601 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,720 about this than most. 602 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,080 Hey mate, how are you? 603 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,000 CHARLIE (over computer): Not too bad, thanks. 604 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,080 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): For several years he's been looking at ways of 605 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,400 deterring sharks that decide to attack. 606 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:31,440 Is your research and line of work due to your passion and 607 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,960 love for sharks, or passion and love for humans, 608 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,120 or who are you? 609 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,680 Who are you more invested in? 610 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,320 It's okay to say the sharks too. 611 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,080 CHARLIE (over computer): It depends in what situations, but yeah, 612 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,520 it's a combination. 613 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,200 It's really, I've always been interested in sharks, 614 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:47,720 since I was a kid. 615 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,240 But yeah, the fascination for sharks just changed into a 616 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,400 real interest in the science and understanding the sharks 617 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,720 better, so that we can actually help in providing a 618 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,080 safer environment, for people but also for sharks. 619 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,160 HEMSWORTH: Yeah, are you going into the field soon 620 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,000 to test any of those deterrents? 621 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,120 CHARLIE (over computer): Yeah, actually we're going next week. 622 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,080 HEMSWORTH: Well good luck with it. 623 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,880 CHARLIE (over computer): Thanks. 624 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,080 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): Charlie and his colleagues from Flinders University in Adelaide 625 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,640 are heading into the seas off south Australia. 626 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,760 On board they're testing the latest shark deterrent and 627 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,400 protection technologies. 628 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,480 CHARLIE: So what we've seen in that in recent years there has 629 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,800 been an increase in the number of shark bites globally, 630 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,320 including in Australia, and this has resulted in a lot of 631 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,640 interest in the devices to try to reduce those risks. 632 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,680 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): The team have sailed to the Neptune Islands, 633 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,120 a hot spot for great whites. 634 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,280 The sharks come here to prey on Australia's largest colony 635 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,160 of long-nosed fur seals. 636 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,600 So it's the perfect place to test products designed to take 637 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,560 advantage of sharks' very unusual senses. 638 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,080 CHARLIE: There's only a small number of animals that have 639 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,280 this ability to detect electric field, 640 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,080 and sharks have it through these black dots called 641 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,800 Ampullae of Lorenzini. 642 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,560 The idea behind these electric field based deterrents is that 643 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,520 they will produce such a strong pulse, 644 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,560 that it will overwhelm this sensory organ and make the 645 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,760 shark physically move away from the source. 646 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:35,240 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): The aim is to develop a safer surfboard, 647 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,680 with an electrical shark deterrent built into it. 648 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,920 CHARLIE: This produces an electric field through two 649 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,800 electrodes which are positioned just underneath the board, 650 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,920 and this is kind of a replica of a surfboard. 651 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,120 This has produced a field which is transmitted to these electrodes, 652 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,320 and creates a bit of a barrier around the surfboard, 653 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,200 which is theory should be deterring the sharks. 654 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,160 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): To test the theory, 655 00:35:03,240 --> 00:35:05,840 the experiment compares a shark's reactions to a 656 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,200 board with the electrical device switched on, 657 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,080 to a board with it off. 658 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,360 But getting robust data means repeating the process 659 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,760 many times over. 660 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,640 Over hundreds of previous trials, 661 00:35:29,720 --> 00:35:31,640 the team have captured remarkable footage 662 00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:33,480 of sharks in action. 663 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,080 MAN: Oh! 664 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:38,880 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): First they recorded what happened to a 665 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,160 baited board with a device turned off. 666 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,520 CHARLIE: It's interesting that we do have a bait just 667 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:45,840 underneath that board. 668 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,360 MADDIE: It's swimming as we would expect to see it 669 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,040 swimming around a bait. 670 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,720 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): And then what happened to the sharks when 671 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,640 the device was turned on. 672 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:02,640 CHARLIE: Look at it. 673 00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:05,160 MADDIE: So that was a pretty obvious flinch. 674 00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:06,680 CHARLIE: He's coming back now. 675 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,160 That kind of flinch or reaction, 676 00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:13,120 we didn't see that when the deterrent was turned off. 677 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,080 MADDIE: And you can see the really obvious flinching in 678 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:20,640 the gills as well, and the jaw gaping. 679 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:26,400 CHARLIE: Oh look at that one, 680 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:27,880 so that one came really from down below, 681 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,560 it was only within half a meter. 682 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,160 Overall there was a 60% reduction in the proportion of 683 00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:37,840 bait being taken, so 60% reduction in shark bites. 684 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,920 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): If the eight people killed by sharks in Australia 685 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,520 in 2020 had been able to use an electric deterrent like this, 686 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,520 then five may still be alive. 687 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,800 Products like these are promising, 688 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,600 as we may be able to reduce fatalities in the future, 689 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,320 all without harming the sharks. 690 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:05,840 Meanwhile... 691 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,400 PAUL: Oh, there's something on there. 692 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,600 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): Will I finally get my chance to come face to face 693 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,240 with a great white? 694 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,600 Oh wow. 695 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,440 HEMSWORTH: Okay, I just got a text message, PVC 276, 696 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,040 I assume that's the buoy number or the coordinates, 697 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,680 and looks like we have a shark. 698 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,240 So let's go and check it out. 699 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,840 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): My journey to understand how sharks and humans 700 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,200 can live together has been eye-opening. 701 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,360 HEMSWORTH: Alright boys? Are we on or what? 702 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,320 PAUL: Yes, it looks like we're on. 703 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:37,280 Good? 704 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,040 HEMSWORTH: Do it. 705 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,320 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): But I still haven't seen a great white shark up close. 706 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,120 HEMSWORTH: Here we go. 707 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,840 So we obviously have no idea what kind of shark it is. 708 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,640 PAUL: No, but what we do know is that usually 709 00:37:59,720 --> 00:38:02,240 those buoys that go off south of the river, 710 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,080 it's usually a white shark, so it's... 711 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,200 Yeah, we've got our fingers crossed. 712 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,440 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): We reach the smart drumline location. 713 00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:19,720 And this time, the buoys don't seem to be just 714 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,840 drifting with the wind. 715 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,320 PAUL: Now we've got the buoys together, they're tangled, 716 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,280 the buoy's bouncing up and down. 717 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,480 Rest assured there's a shark on this one. 718 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:29,960 HAYDEN: Alright Paul, you alright Chris? 719 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,960 PAUL: Yeah, go ahead. 720 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,160 Well there's something on there. 721 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:36,760 Oh, it's a big white. 722 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:38,720 A huge white. 723 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,320 Big white. 724 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,120 Come in here Chris. 725 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,120 HEMSWORTH: Oh wow. 726 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,600 Wow. 727 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,520 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): To limit the stress on the shark, 728 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,640 the team must work as fast as possible. 729 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,440 PAUL: You can lift his head? 730 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,640 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): They need to turn the shark onto its back, 731 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,040 which puts it into a peaceful state. 732 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,920 The hook may look gruesome, but the team need to use it to 733 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,480 stabilize the shark's head alongside the boat. 734 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,280 HEMSWORTH: How big is that, two and a half meters? 735 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:23,600 PAUL: Yeah, 2.6, 2.8? 736 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,520 HEMSWORTH: 2.6, 2.8. 737 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,080 And this is safe and mostly harmless for the shark, right? 738 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:31,040 PAUL: That's right. 739 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,400 We've done a lot of research, especially with great white 740 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,000 sharks now, through a process of taking blood out of them. 741 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,200 So basically it doesn't stress the animal out. 742 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,040 HEMSWORTH: It's comforting to know it's not hurting the shark. 743 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,200 The guys have reassured me it's pretty docile at this 744 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,360 point and you know, very little harm, 745 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:51,080 and so I've seen plenty of movies and imagery of them, 746 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,560 but never this, up close in person and, yeah, 747 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,280 just amazing. 748 00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,680 PAUL: Male. 749 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,480 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): We record as much information as possible in the time available. 750 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,880 PAUL: Alright, Hayden, 2-8-1. 751 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,600 HAYDEN: 2-8-1. 752 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,720 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): Each measurement revealing something different 753 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,120 about its life and history. 754 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:21,880 PAUL: The tiny little fin clip, 755 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,960 that'll get divided up into six different pieces, 756 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,480 one sample will go to one lab, another sample to another. 757 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,680 We want to know how many sharks there are in the 758 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,280 population, who their mums and dads are, 759 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:32,800 who their brothers and sisters are. 760 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,280 So next part of the process is working out 761 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,120 what they're eating. 762 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,400 We take a DNA sample from around its butt basically. 763 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:41,560 HEMSWORTH: And here we are, 764 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,000 about to take an anal swab from a shark. 765 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:45,400 All for science. 766 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,440 So let's dig in, shall we? 767 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,720 Where is its butt? 768 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,000 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): Knowing a shark's diet can give vital clues about 769 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:57,840 how and where it feeds, 770 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,800 helping us understand its life underwater. 771 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,960 Sorry about that mate. 772 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,880 To monitor this shark in real time, 773 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,560 an acoustic transmitter tag is then attached. 774 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:10,640 Are you alright there? 775 00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:11,560 Everyone alright? 776 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:12,880 PAUL: Yeah. 777 00:41:13,720 --> 00:41:15,480 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): Meaning its movements can be tracked for 778 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,880 up to 10 years. 779 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:19,480 PAUL: See, just a quick incision, 780 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,480 shark doesn't even know. 781 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,400 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): With the science wrapped up, 782 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,280 it's time to let the shark go. 783 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:28,640 Alright. 784 00:41:28,720 --> 00:41:29,960 PAUL: Alright guys, let's do this. 785 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,360 HEMSWORTH: So you're going to hold the dorsal while you're doing it? 786 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:32,440 PAUL: Just hold that Chris. 787 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:33,560 HEMSWORTH: Yep. 788 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:34,840 PAUL: And I'm just going to let that go there, 789 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,760 and we're going to wait for him to kick. 790 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:38,880 And then we, when he goes the other way, 791 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,000 we'll let him go. 792 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,240 HAYDEN: There he goes, he wants to swim. 793 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:42,560 HEMSWORTH: Let him go? 794 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,120 PAUL: There he goes, out the front of the boat, 795 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:55,720 straight to New Zealand. 796 00:41:58,240 --> 00:42:01,720 HEMSWORTH: He cruised off pretty gently, huh? 797 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,920 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): The great white is now one of over 798 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,160 400 in the monitoring program. 799 00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:11,240 If any come within half a mile of the shore, 800 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,280 their tags will trigger an alarm, 801 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,280 allowing the water to be evacuated, 802 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,640 keeping swimmers and surfers safe. 803 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,720 What's more, having been tagged, 804 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,880 it turns out the shark's then likely to avoid this 805 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,600 spot for quite a while. 806 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,560 PAUL: We do know from our satellite tag work that the 807 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,840 next day its 15 to 30 kilometers offshore, 808 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,440 so not only have we taken it away from the direct beach, 809 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,800 you can see the waves breaking only 100 meters 810 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:41,920 away from us, so it's... 811 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,280 HEMSWORTH: I've surfed there a few times. 812 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,520 PAUL: Surfing in there, he's released, he's off, 813 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,320 so the smart drumlines have done their bit for the day. 814 00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:49,520 HEMSWORTH: Great. 815 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:50,480 PAUL: Well done on your first shark. 816 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:51,880 HEMSWORTH: Success, thank you. 817 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,800 HAYDEN: Thank you. HEMSWORTH: Cheers guys. 818 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,560 HEMSWORTH (off-screen): Meeting the largest predatory shark in the ocean has been an 819 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,320 eye-opener for sure. 820 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,960 It's made me realize that despite their ability to harm, 821 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,400 these are deeply vulnerable creatures. 822 00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:24,200 Thankfully, we're now learning how to better live together. 823 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,200 And I think when we're enjoying the ocean, 824 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,960 we should never forget that we are the visitors 825 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,800 to their home. 826 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,120 I think I have a greater understanding of how fragile 827 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:42,880 the ocean is, and the devastating effect we can have 828 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,800 on it, and also the positive effects we can have on it, 829 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,120 depending on what road we choose to take. 830 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:49,800 DIRECTOR (off-screen): Are you going to give up surfing? 831 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,440 HEMSWORTH: Definitely not. 832 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:57,520 ♪ ♪ 833 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,920 Captioned by Cotter Media Group.