1 00:00:14,347 --> 00:00:15,932 -Oh, my God. I'm excited about today's guest. 2 00:00:15,974 --> 00:00:17,350 Well, let me tell you why. 3 00:00:17,392 --> 00:00:19,811 Today's guest has gone from a successful model 4 00:00:19,853 --> 00:00:21,271 to a mega successful actress, 5 00:00:21,312 --> 00:00:23,314 to an insanely successful businesswoman. 6 00:00:23,356 --> 00:00:25,191 And besides her thriving acting career, 7 00:00:25,233 --> 00:00:27,402 well, she's got a talent management business, 8 00:00:27,444 --> 00:00:28,653 a digital media company, 9 00:00:28,695 --> 00:00:30,321 and her own makeup and fashion brand. 10 00:00:30,363 --> 00:00:32,782 To sum it up, well, she simply makes things happen. 11 00:00:32,824 --> 00:00:34,826 I'm talking about my sister, 12 00:00:34,868 --> 00:00:37,328 my friend, Sofia Vergara. 13 00:00:37,370 --> 00:00:40,582 Sofia -- [ Imitating Spanish speaking ] 14 00:00:40,623 --> 00:00:43,501 -What language are you talking? 15 00:00:43,543 --> 00:00:45,670 Oh, my God. 16 00:00:45,712 --> 00:00:47,714 I haven't seen you in such a long time. 17 00:00:47,756 --> 00:00:50,133 -[ Imitating Spanish speaking ] 18 00:00:50,175 --> 00:00:51,843 Right? Does that sound like I knew it? 19 00:00:51,885 --> 00:00:53,011 -No, it's -- -No? 20 00:00:53,053 --> 00:00:54,512 -No. -How have you been? 21 00:00:54,554 --> 00:00:55,847 I haven't seen you in forever. 22 00:00:55,889 --> 00:00:57,057 -Do you remember that we did a movie together? 23 00:00:57,098 --> 00:00:58,516 -What do you mean, do I remember? 24 00:00:58,558 --> 00:01:00,018 That's why you're here. Of course I remember. 25 00:01:00,060 --> 00:01:01,686 -Oh, that's why I'm here? You only interview 26 00:01:01,728 --> 00:01:03,438 people that are in movies with you? 27 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:04,689 -I interview my friends. 28 00:01:04,731 --> 00:01:07,817 I interview my business partners, 29 00:01:07,859 --> 00:01:09,778 my people that I have relationships with, 30 00:01:09,819 --> 00:01:12,155 more importantly, people that I want the world to understand 31 00:01:12,197 --> 00:01:14,491 that are great people, great minds -- 32 00:01:14,532 --> 00:01:17,410 -Even people that you don't like, you interview? 33 00:01:19,079 --> 00:01:21,498 -I interviewed a person, but not on this show, 34 00:01:21,539 --> 00:01:22,874 that I didn't like before. 35 00:01:22,916 --> 00:01:25,919 But here, this is all like great rapport, 36 00:01:25,960 --> 00:01:29,255 great relationships, and a great feel, 37 00:01:29,297 --> 00:01:30,965 and back and forth. That's what this place is. 38 00:01:31,007 --> 00:01:32,384 That's why it's called "Hart to Heart." 39 00:01:32,425 --> 00:01:33,426 -That's why I'm here. 40 00:01:33,468 --> 00:01:35,095 -Okay, well, I'm glad you're here. 41 00:01:35,136 --> 00:01:36,763 So I don't have to explain to you what this show is. 42 00:01:36,805 --> 00:01:37,806 You know. -No, no, no. 43 00:01:37,847 --> 00:01:39,307 And I love your set. 44 00:01:39,349 --> 00:01:42,143 I love your energy. I love the people you interview. 45 00:01:42,185 --> 00:01:44,979 I'm a fan. I've always been a big fan of yours. 46 00:01:45,021 --> 00:01:46,231 -Well, thank you, Sofia. 47 00:01:46,272 --> 00:01:47,732 Well, this is what I'm talking about, 48 00:01:47,774 --> 00:01:49,359 this is how you get off to a good start. 49 00:01:49,401 --> 00:01:51,444 Here's the thing, we're going to drink some wine, right, 50 00:01:51,486 --> 00:01:53,238 and drinking wine we're going to have 51 00:01:53,279 --> 00:01:55,448 a very loose, real conversation, and I'm going to get to know 52 00:01:55,490 --> 00:01:57,200 more than what I've already known. 53 00:01:57,242 --> 00:01:59,202 The people are going to get to know more about you. 54 00:01:59,244 --> 00:02:02,122 We're going to celebrate you. We're going to embrace you, 55 00:02:02,163 --> 00:02:03,915 uplift you. You're going to walk away 56 00:02:03,957 --> 00:02:05,417 with a great feeling after the show, okay? 57 00:02:05,458 --> 00:02:07,794 -Are you going to let me talk at some point? 58 00:02:07,836 --> 00:02:09,921 Yeah. [ Laughter ] 59 00:02:09,963 --> 00:02:12,173 -The fuck is so funny, guys? 60 00:02:12,215 --> 00:02:13,717 -Can you say fuck? -Oh, my God. 61 00:02:13,758 --> 00:02:16,219 We can say whatever we want. It's "Hart to Heart." 62 00:02:16,261 --> 00:02:19,014 Let me get my somm out here. DLynn, please? Where's D at? 63 00:02:19,055 --> 00:02:20,932 -What are you drinking? -Oh, you're about to know. 64 00:02:20,974 --> 00:02:22,892 He's going to break it down for us. 65 00:02:22,934 --> 00:02:24,269 -Hello. -Mrs. Vergara, hello. 66 00:02:24,310 --> 00:02:25,311 -What's this? -Mr. Hart. 67 00:02:25,353 --> 00:02:27,147 -What I got? -Well, we've got 68 00:02:27,188 --> 00:02:29,315 five and a half million years of geological history here. 69 00:02:29,357 --> 00:02:31,026 We've got two single-vineyard wines, 70 00:02:31,067 --> 00:02:33,778 less than 200 cases made of each. 71 00:02:33,820 --> 00:02:35,280 -Come on, now. -Of course for you, 72 00:02:35,321 --> 00:02:37,782 a fantastic white, which I will pour first. 73 00:02:37,824 --> 00:02:39,451 -Okay. -A wonderful single-vineyard 74 00:02:39,492 --> 00:02:40,702 Chardonnay from Sonoma, 75 00:02:40,744 --> 00:02:41,953 of course. -Okay. 76 00:02:41,995 --> 00:02:43,830 -I don't know why she got it first, 77 00:02:43,872 --> 00:02:45,123 but we'll deal with that later. 78 00:02:45,165 --> 00:02:46,958 -Oh, my, because I am the guest. 79 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,460 -Yes, I know, but I'll fix it in edit. 80 00:02:48,501 --> 00:02:50,295 -I mean -- -I'll change that in the edit. 81 00:02:50,337 --> 00:02:54,049 -Of course, Mr. Hart, single-vineyard Mourvedre. 82 00:02:54,090 --> 00:02:55,342 Of course in the Latin language, 83 00:02:55,383 --> 00:02:57,093 the Spaniards call it Monastrell. 84 00:02:57,135 --> 00:02:58,928 -Monastrell, yeah, I knew it. 85 00:02:58,970 --> 00:03:01,264 I knew that. It's a Mourvedre, yeah. 86 00:03:01,306 --> 00:03:03,099 Thank you, D. -Both of you, please enjoy. 87 00:03:03,141 --> 00:03:04,934 -Yes, I appreciate you. Cheers. 88 00:03:04,976 --> 00:03:07,812 -Salud. -Cheers, salud. Okay, first -- 89 00:03:07,854 --> 00:03:09,147 -Thank you for having me. 90 00:03:09,189 --> 00:03:11,858 -Thank you for being had. 91 00:03:11,900 --> 00:03:13,526 Mm-hmm. 92 00:03:13,568 --> 00:03:14,944 Good? 93 00:03:14,986 --> 00:03:17,113 -Nice and refreshing. Very light. I love it. 94 00:03:17,155 --> 00:03:19,199 Not like very acid. -Okay, good. 95 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:20,825 -Yeah, I don't know anything about wines, 96 00:03:20,867 --> 00:03:22,619 but I like drinking wine. 97 00:03:22,660 --> 00:03:24,287 -Your just answered as if you knew just now. 98 00:03:24,329 --> 00:03:26,539 -Oh, really? -Yeah, light, acid -- 99 00:03:26,581 --> 00:03:28,291 -No, I can tell you what I feel. 100 00:03:28,333 --> 00:03:30,210 -Don't yell at me, Sofia. We just started. 101 00:03:30,251 --> 00:03:32,379 Jesus Christ. What just happened? 102 00:03:32,420 --> 00:03:35,382 -I'm laughing. I don't know. It's like, it's some voice 103 00:03:35,423 --> 00:03:38,843 that I always have here, that it's, I can't control. 104 00:03:38,885 --> 00:03:40,845 -For those who do not know, Sofia and I did a movie 105 00:03:40,887 --> 00:03:42,055 together called "Soul Plane." 106 00:03:42,097 --> 00:03:45,684 This was actually the first movie -- 107 00:03:45,725 --> 00:03:47,644 -That you ever did? -No, it was the second one 108 00:03:47,686 --> 00:03:50,063 that I ever did. The first one was "Paper Soldiers," 109 00:03:50,105 --> 00:03:52,899 but this was supposed to be the movie that, you know, 110 00:03:52,941 --> 00:03:57,028 launched my career, that put me in a place of real success. 111 00:03:57,070 --> 00:03:58,697 Jessy Terrero... -Of course. 112 00:03:58,738 --> 00:04:01,533 -...who I know you know -- -Snoop Dogg was in that movie. 113 00:04:01,574 --> 00:04:04,327 -Snoop, Mo'Nique, D.L. Hughley -- 114 00:04:04,369 --> 00:04:06,871 -Yes. -John Witherspoon. 115 00:04:06,913 --> 00:04:09,874 -Yes. You know that it was like, 116 00:04:09,916 --> 00:04:13,878 I want to say like 18 years ago or something like that. 117 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,547 -Maybe longer. -20 years -- 118 00:04:15,588 --> 00:04:17,382 I think, yeah, because it was when I moved, 119 00:04:17,424 --> 00:04:20,218 you're right, here. I moved 20 years ago to Los Angeles. 120 00:04:20,260 --> 00:04:21,970 -Yeah, that's about the right time. 121 00:04:22,012 --> 00:04:23,346 It sounds right, 20 years ago. 122 00:04:23,388 --> 00:04:25,015 -It was like one of my first movies, yes. 123 00:04:25,056 --> 00:04:26,850 -So, let me ask you a question. For me, 124 00:04:26,891 --> 00:04:28,351 that movie, you know, 125 00:04:28,393 --> 00:04:32,647 it really was a pivotal moment for me in my career, 126 00:04:32,689 --> 00:04:36,985 because although the movie didn't have box office success, 127 00:04:37,027 --> 00:04:39,237 because it got bootlegged it had a tremendous amount of success 128 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:43,033 and allowed me to really kind of take my feet, 129 00:04:43,074 --> 00:04:44,993 place them in a space of stand-up, 130 00:04:45,035 --> 00:04:46,745 build a rapport with an audience, 131 00:04:46,786 --> 00:04:48,580 and like grow a fan base. -Well, people started believing 132 00:04:48,621 --> 00:04:51,583 in you after that, because they were able to see. 133 00:04:51,624 --> 00:04:54,586 Like I didn't even know who you were until I saw the movie 134 00:04:54,627 --> 00:04:58,131 and I was like, "Oh, my God, this guy is amazing." 135 00:04:58,173 --> 00:05:00,592 And you were so much more handsome at the time, 136 00:05:00,633 --> 00:05:03,428 remember, yeah. And younger. -Yeah. 137 00:05:03,470 --> 00:05:06,556 -Fresher. But you're doing great, you know? 138 00:05:06,598 --> 00:05:07,932 Yeah. 139 00:05:07,974 --> 00:05:10,435 -Yeah, no, yeah. Absolutely. 140 00:05:10,477 --> 00:05:12,437 That was weird. I think we kind of, I think it, 141 00:05:12,479 --> 00:05:15,023 like, I thought you were going like in the space of compliment, 142 00:05:15,065 --> 00:05:16,524 and then it's like whoo, it just went down. 143 00:05:16,566 --> 00:05:18,485 -It was a compliment. -Yeah, well, until you said 144 00:05:18,526 --> 00:05:20,070 like, that was when I was younger. 145 00:05:20,111 --> 00:05:21,529 I still feel like I'm -- -Well, I'm not lying. 146 00:05:21,571 --> 00:05:23,698 It's a fact. You were younger, 20 years ago? 147 00:05:23,740 --> 00:05:27,327 -Yeah, well, I mean, it depends on how you look at me. 148 00:05:27,369 --> 00:05:29,954 -Well, I'm 50 now. -Are you really? 149 00:05:29,996 --> 00:05:33,625 -I looked like fresh at that time. Now I'm like -- 150 00:05:33,667 --> 00:05:35,251 -Sofia, you look great. -Yeah, but -- 151 00:05:35,293 --> 00:05:36,920 -I'm serious. -But I'm 50. 152 00:05:36,961 --> 00:05:39,506 -You look great. -Inside I'm 50. 153 00:05:39,547 --> 00:05:41,383 -Inside, you're 50? -No, actually, no, 154 00:05:41,424 --> 00:05:46,137 inside I feel like I'm younger, but everything -- 155 00:05:46,179 --> 00:05:48,765 -What is that? What just happened? 156 00:05:48,807 --> 00:05:50,225 No, stop it. 157 00:05:50,266 --> 00:05:52,227 -Yeah, it's like everything's starting to like, 158 00:05:52,268 --> 00:05:53,478 you know, it's like -- 159 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,064 -No, you look phenomenal. Phenomenal. 160 00:05:56,106 --> 00:05:58,650 My question was going to be, what did that movie do for you? 161 00:05:58,692 --> 00:06:01,736 What did "Soul Plane" do for you at a point of your career? 162 00:06:01,778 --> 00:06:04,114 -It got me money. Yeah. 163 00:06:04,155 --> 00:06:05,365 -Just pretty much that's it? 164 00:06:05,407 --> 00:06:06,825 -Yeah. -Just got you money. 165 00:06:06,866 --> 00:06:08,910 Did opportunities come because of "Soul Plane"? 166 00:06:08,952 --> 00:06:12,205 -I created a lot of friends there, was amazing, 167 00:06:12,247 --> 00:06:15,250 and also I learned a lot to be on a set doing a movie, 168 00:06:15,291 --> 00:06:17,836 because it was like one of my first movies. 169 00:06:17,877 --> 00:06:23,967 Then I worked a couple of times with Tyler Perry, 170 00:06:24,009 --> 00:06:25,343 so I think yes. 171 00:06:25,385 --> 00:06:30,181 Like I think then I became part of more movies 172 00:06:30,223 --> 00:06:33,852 that were more for Black people, Latin people, 173 00:06:33,893 --> 00:06:36,438 that were including us, so that was a great time for me. 174 00:06:36,479 --> 00:06:38,314 That's what I think that that movie did for me. 175 00:06:38,356 --> 00:06:40,358 -And you came from Univision, right? 176 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:41,860 -Yes. -I remember you were, 177 00:06:41,901 --> 00:06:44,320 you were very big in the world of Univision. 178 00:06:44,362 --> 00:06:46,531 How long were you in that ecosystem? 179 00:06:46,573 --> 00:06:49,325 -Well, I've been working since I was like 17 years old, 180 00:06:49,367 --> 00:06:51,286 but really in Univision, I started working 181 00:06:51,327 --> 00:06:53,163 like when I was 22, 182 00:06:53,204 --> 00:06:55,915 and I think I've never stopped working. 183 00:06:55,957 --> 00:06:58,043 -Really, since 22, you've been going nonstop. 184 00:06:58,084 --> 00:06:59,294 -Yeah, nonstop. 185 00:06:59,336 --> 00:07:01,504 -And after "Soul Plane," what do you feel, 186 00:07:01,546 --> 00:07:02,922 what acted as the big break? 187 00:07:02,964 --> 00:07:05,550 What was the big breaking moment for Sofia Vergara? 188 00:07:05,592 --> 00:07:08,762 Was it -- It was something before "Modern Family," was it? 189 00:07:08,803 --> 00:07:10,638 -No, I think the big break was "Modern Family." 190 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:12,432 -I mean, I moved to Los Angeles thinking 191 00:07:12,474 --> 00:07:16,144 if I don't find a job like in the next six months, 192 00:07:16,186 --> 00:07:18,396 I'm fine. I'll just go back. 193 00:07:18,438 --> 00:07:20,732 And here I am 20 years later. -Holy shit. 194 00:07:20,774 --> 00:07:26,363 -It's like, I did many little things here and there. 195 00:07:26,404 --> 00:07:31,451 I did three pilots that went half seasons, 196 00:07:31,493 --> 00:07:35,288 and then I got -- But ABC didn't want to let me go. 197 00:07:35,330 --> 00:07:37,499 -Okay. -So, until they found me 198 00:07:37,540 --> 00:07:39,668 "Modern Family." -Oh, they knew they had a star. 199 00:07:39,709 --> 00:07:42,629 They knew that we have something in this individual. 200 00:07:42,671 --> 00:07:45,256 Letting her out of our ecosystem would be foolish. 201 00:07:45,298 --> 00:07:46,800 Let's find and work hard to find something. 202 00:07:46,841 --> 00:07:48,093 -They gave me a holding deal 203 00:07:48,134 --> 00:07:50,178 until they found "Modern Family" for me. 204 00:07:50,220 --> 00:07:52,222 -Holy shit. -So I didn't even audition. 205 00:07:52,263 --> 00:07:54,516 -How long was the holding deal for? 206 00:07:54,557 --> 00:07:56,267 -I think it was like for three years. 207 00:07:56,309 --> 00:07:58,770 -Get out of here! -Yeah, and it was fantastic -- 208 00:07:58,812 --> 00:08:00,522 I mean, it was not fun -- 209 00:08:00,563 --> 00:08:03,358 I mean, it was great 'cause I was getting, you know, 210 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,360 but I also, I wanted to start working. 211 00:08:05,402 --> 00:08:08,071 I wanted to find things, and they were waiting for me 212 00:08:08,113 --> 00:08:09,656 to find the right thing, and it was great. 213 00:08:09,698 --> 00:08:11,533 -How many things, were there things 214 00:08:11,574 --> 00:08:14,452 that just weren't working out, a lot of auditions, 215 00:08:14,494 --> 00:08:15,704 or just things that weren't right the fit 216 00:08:15,745 --> 00:08:17,288 over the course of the three years? 217 00:08:17,330 --> 00:08:18,915 Like, how many things did you figure out? 218 00:08:18,957 --> 00:08:22,127 -Not over the course of three years. Like, I moved to LA, 219 00:08:22,168 --> 00:08:25,130 and I think I hit "Modern Family" like on the 7th year, 220 00:08:25,171 --> 00:08:26,506 so it wasn't that fast. -Okay. 221 00:08:26,548 --> 00:08:28,466 -In those seven years I did a lot of, 222 00:08:28,508 --> 00:08:30,677 many auditions that they told me no, 223 00:08:30,719 --> 00:08:35,640 and many movies, little movies here and there, little parts. 224 00:08:35,682 --> 00:08:37,600 But the moment that I did "Modern Family," 225 00:08:37,642 --> 00:08:40,729 it was like the first week, that was it. 226 00:08:40,770 --> 00:08:44,774 -You know what "Modern Family" is like, what I compare that to? 227 00:08:44,816 --> 00:08:46,526 When you talk about the world of investing, right, 228 00:08:46,568 --> 00:08:50,864 they have these things that are like lightning bolts 229 00:08:50,905 --> 00:08:52,741 in the bottle, things that they feel 230 00:08:52,782 --> 00:08:55,827 will only happen a couple times in a lifetime. 231 00:08:55,869 --> 00:08:57,454 You think about Uber 232 00:08:57,495 --> 00:09:00,415 and the success that Uber had in the beginning stages. 233 00:09:00,457 --> 00:09:02,917 Well, in television it's the same, 234 00:09:02,959 --> 00:09:05,670 to be a part of an opportunity 235 00:09:05,712 --> 00:09:09,299 that grows to be a 10-year show. 236 00:09:09,341 --> 00:09:10,467 -Yeah, crazy, 11 years. 237 00:09:10,508 --> 00:09:12,427 -11 years, 11 years of television. 238 00:09:12,469 --> 00:09:14,012 -I don't think that's ever going to happen again 239 00:09:14,054 --> 00:09:17,223 now in television, because people want like things fast, 240 00:09:17,265 --> 00:09:19,434 and they want to move on so fast. 241 00:09:19,476 --> 00:09:21,728 It was like, it was special for us, yeah. 242 00:09:21,770 --> 00:09:24,272 -I feel like we're in the time of five seasons 243 00:09:24,314 --> 00:09:25,523 and that's it, right? 244 00:09:25,565 --> 00:09:28,276 Getting past five seasons is tough. 245 00:09:28,318 --> 00:09:31,988 I think the world of the 10 seasons was, 246 00:09:32,030 --> 00:09:33,615 that was -- no pun intended, 247 00:09:33,656 --> 00:09:35,283 but when you're talking about family, 248 00:09:35,325 --> 00:09:36,785 a show that embraces family, 249 00:09:36,826 --> 00:09:39,245 the beauty of that, you're watching a family grow. 250 00:09:39,287 --> 00:09:42,248 And the shows throughout the years that have embraced that, 251 00:09:42,290 --> 00:09:44,918 not only do they have success, but you felt like you were 252 00:09:44,959 --> 00:09:47,253 a part of the lives of the characters, 253 00:09:47,295 --> 00:09:48,672 and the characters dealt 254 00:09:48,713 --> 00:09:51,383 with a lot of real situations in real time. 255 00:09:51,424 --> 00:09:53,051 "Modern Family" did the same thing. 256 00:09:53,093 --> 00:09:58,723 Steve, Steve Levitan, a producer on that show, phenomenal guy. 257 00:09:58,765 --> 00:10:02,936 When you were in Season 1, 2, did you guys know? 258 00:10:02,977 --> 00:10:05,563 Did you feel like holy shit, this is -- 259 00:10:05,605 --> 00:10:08,400 -We knew from the first episode. 260 00:10:08,441 --> 00:10:11,111 I mean, it was like crazy, immediately. 261 00:10:11,152 --> 00:10:15,240 It was like, I mean, the first and worst season, 262 00:10:15,281 --> 00:10:17,575 we were invited to every award show. 263 00:10:17,617 --> 00:10:20,704 We were all nominated. I mean, it was crazy. 264 00:10:20,745 --> 00:10:22,288 I never thought I was going to be able 265 00:10:22,330 --> 00:10:24,749 to be part of something like that. 266 00:10:24,791 --> 00:10:27,460 And, you know, to be -- I used to watch Ed O'Neill 267 00:10:27,502 --> 00:10:29,421 when I was in Colombia. -Insane, insane. 268 00:10:29,462 --> 00:10:31,214 -So it was like I couldn't believe it. 269 00:10:31,256 --> 00:10:32,382 And I was married to Ed O'Neill. 270 00:10:32,424 --> 00:10:34,426 He was like 20 years older than me. 271 00:10:34,467 --> 00:10:36,761 I was like, it never -- I'm like oh, my God. 272 00:10:36,803 --> 00:10:38,596 I remember the first time that they told me 273 00:10:38,638 --> 00:10:40,765 he was going to be my husband, and I'm like, 274 00:10:40,807 --> 00:10:43,643 "Oh, my God, I'm going to be stuck with the old guy 275 00:10:43,685 --> 00:10:45,270 in the set for hours. 276 00:10:45,311 --> 00:10:48,148 And it's going to be so boring." And -- 277 00:10:48,189 --> 00:10:50,775 -It was the complete opposite. -It was complete opposite. 278 00:10:50,817 --> 00:10:53,028 I mean, I'm like, "What do we have in common?" 279 00:10:53,069 --> 00:10:54,529 You know, "I'm from Colombia," 280 00:10:54,571 --> 00:10:57,449 and, I mean, we had such a great time, 281 00:10:57,490 --> 00:11:00,869 him and I on the set every day. It was fantastic. 282 00:11:00,910 --> 00:11:03,455 -Did you guys, like, before going into it, 283 00:11:03,496 --> 00:11:05,290 because like you said, at this point the network 284 00:11:05,331 --> 00:11:06,916 is trying to find something for you. 285 00:11:06,958 --> 00:11:10,128 They find "Modern Family." It's going to be you, 286 00:11:10,170 --> 00:11:11,713 it's going to be Ed O'Neill. 287 00:11:11,755 --> 00:11:14,466 Before you got to the place of table reads, et cetera, 288 00:11:14,507 --> 00:11:16,301 did you have to meet Ed a couple times? 289 00:11:16,343 --> 00:11:17,635 -No. -No. It was just showing up. 290 00:11:17,677 --> 00:11:19,512 -We met at the table read. -Holy shit. 291 00:11:19,554 --> 00:11:21,306 And the chemistry kicked off like that. 292 00:11:21,348 --> 00:11:23,141 -It was immediate. It was immediate. 293 00:11:23,183 --> 00:11:24,642 And I was very worried, 294 00:11:24,684 --> 00:11:28,146 because my character was a younger woman, 295 00:11:28,188 --> 00:11:30,440 an immigrant, and with a kid, 296 00:11:30,482 --> 00:11:34,486 and she sounded like completely the gold digger. 297 00:11:34,527 --> 00:11:36,821 I mean, I'm like, oh, my God, I told my manager, it's like, 298 00:11:36,863 --> 00:11:39,407 they're going to hate her, you know? 299 00:11:39,449 --> 00:11:43,703 But then there was something that I did with the character 300 00:11:43,745 --> 00:11:47,874 and that Ed helped me do with the character, that it worked. 301 00:11:47,916 --> 00:11:50,669 And I don't think anyone you ask thought 302 00:11:50,710 --> 00:11:55,340 that Gloria was not really in love with Jay. 303 00:11:55,382 --> 00:11:56,800 -Yeah. -So it was great. 304 00:11:56,841 --> 00:11:59,719 -I think that the beauty of what you were able to do was, 305 00:11:59,761 --> 00:12:03,014 you were able to bring a lot of you to -- 306 00:12:03,056 --> 00:12:05,183 -You were in "Modern Family." -Yes, I came, and I did it. 307 00:12:05,225 --> 00:12:06,685 What are you talking about? 308 00:12:06,726 --> 00:12:08,561 I was like the first Black guy to ever do the show. 309 00:12:08,603 --> 00:12:10,355 -You always talking like that about you. 310 00:12:10,397 --> 00:12:11,856 Like you're the first everything. 311 00:12:11,898 --> 00:12:14,317 -I was. I was the first Black guy to do "Modern Family." 312 00:12:14,359 --> 00:12:15,694 Okay, you guys can go look it up. 313 00:12:15,735 --> 00:12:17,737 I was a neighbor. You guys don't even know 314 00:12:17,779 --> 00:12:19,864 they had a Black neighbor. It was me. 315 00:12:19,906 --> 00:12:23,284 Now, granted, I did one episode because of my schedule. 316 00:12:23,326 --> 00:12:26,496 I couldn't do more, but that episode was very funny. 317 00:12:26,538 --> 00:12:28,039 -It was very funny. -Very, very funny. 318 00:12:28,081 --> 00:12:29,791 -I mean, I don't know if it was because of you, 319 00:12:29,833 --> 00:12:32,419 but it was very funny. Yeah. [ Laughter ] 320 00:12:32,460 --> 00:12:34,295 You were really funny, but -- 321 00:12:34,337 --> 00:12:36,464 -I don't understand why -- I mean, really, guys, 322 00:12:36,506 --> 00:12:37,966 I've never heard you laugh this hard. 323 00:12:38,008 --> 00:12:40,385 Like, really, it's never happened, and all of a sudden, 324 00:12:40,427 --> 00:12:42,887 everybody's got an amazing funny bone around here. 325 00:12:42,929 --> 00:12:46,224 Like, it's really bothering me. We can discuss it later, 326 00:12:46,266 --> 00:12:47,851 but I feel like we should tone it down. 327 00:12:47,892 --> 00:12:49,686 We don't have a laugh track on this show. 328 00:12:49,728 --> 00:12:51,312 Those are real laughs. 329 00:12:51,354 --> 00:12:53,690 Let's fucking cut it out. Okay? 330 00:12:53,732 --> 00:12:56,276 That's enough. We're going to take a quick break. 331 00:12:56,317 --> 00:12:57,902 Guys, we got to pay some bills. 332 00:12:57,944 --> 00:13:00,989 We'll be right back with more "Hart to Heart" after this. 333 00:13:14,919 --> 00:13:17,088 -Welcome back. This is still "Hart to Heart," 334 00:13:17,130 --> 00:13:20,050 and I'm in the chair, and Sofia's in that one. 335 00:13:20,091 --> 00:13:22,719 Okay, so, Sofia, we're talking about acting, right? 336 00:13:22,761 --> 00:13:25,930 So, you are able to bring your cadences. 337 00:13:25,972 --> 00:13:27,557 The character ends up taking off. 338 00:13:27,599 --> 00:13:29,225 Let's now cut to -- -What did you say, 339 00:13:29,267 --> 00:13:30,977 I was able to what? -Your cadences. 340 00:13:31,019 --> 00:13:34,314 You were able to bring you to the character. 341 00:13:34,356 --> 00:13:36,399 -Ah, okay. -Sofia -- 342 00:13:36,441 --> 00:13:39,235 [ Imitating Spanish speaking ] 343 00:13:39,277 --> 00:13:44,949 So, now let's deal with five seasons in, right? 344 00:13:44,991 --> 00:13:47,911 Well, now the conversation attached to Sofia is different. 345 00:13:47,952 --> 00:13:52,749 Well, you're now like one of the biggest actresses on TV 346 00:13:52,791 --> 00:13:55,418 like in the conversation of television. 347 00:13:55,460 --> 00:13:56,836 Even your price tag changed. 348 00:13:56,878 --> 00:13:59,089 Like, we're talking about history now being made. 349 00:13:59,130 --> 00:14:03,468 And as the seasons go on, well the conversation is different. 350 00:14:03,510 --> 00:14:05,220 Your business -- 351 00:14:05,261 --> 00:14:08,348 -Well, just, you're saying it like it's so difficult. 352 00:14:08,390 --> 00:14:09,724 Just say what you want to say. 353 00:14:09,766 --> 00:14:11,434 -Well, I'm not saying like it's difficult, 354 00:14:11,476 --> 00:14:13,812 I'm making sure that my audience is in on this journey, right? 355 00:14:13,853 --> 00:14:15,188 I'm taking them on a journey. -Okay. 356 00:14:15,230 --> 00:14:17,232 -So now we're going to the journey of business. 357 00:14:17,273 --> 00:14:20,777 -Okay. You just want to ask me how much I made? 358 00:14:20,819 --> 00:14:23,279 I made more than all the American people there. 359 00:14:23,321 --> 00:14:24,948 -Wait -- -Well, Ed O'Neill was making 360 00:14:24,989 --> 00:14:26,491 more money than me, but I made more than the rest. 361 00:14:26,533 --> 00:14:28,451 -You made more than the rest. -Can you believe it, 362 00:14:28,493 --> 00:14:30,161 Latin and sounding like this. 363 00:14:30,203 --> 00:14:32,622 -Well, first of all, I wasn't going to ask you that, 364 00:14:32,664 --> 00:14:34,958 but okay. Jesus Christ! 365 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,961 Talk about bragging right here on "Hart to Heart." 366 00:14:38,003 --> 00:14:40,255 Jesus, somebody pick that up. -Oh, really? 367 00:14:40,296 --> 00:14:43,133 I am the one that has a Corvette parked in front of the set? 368 00:14:43,174 --> 00:14:46,011 -That's nobody's business! -I am the one? 369 00:14:46,052 --> 00:14:49,639 Yeah. I am the one that lives in this wine cellar? 370 00:14:49,681 --> 00:14:51,808 -Okay, alright. -I am the one drinking 371 00:14:51,850 --> 00:14:55,186 this, whatever, $2 billion wine? 372 00:14:55,228 --> 00:14:58,648 -That's not $2 million wine. That's a lie. 373 00:14:58,690 --> 00:15:01,484 -And I'm the one bragging? Yes. Yeah. 374 00:15:01,526 --> 00:15:03,820 [ Laughter ] 375 00:15:03,862 --> 00:15:06,156 -Okay. So now, 376 00:15:06,197 --> 00:15:07,657 of course it's one thing to make the money, 377 00:15:07,699 --> 00:15:09,993 but it's another thing to be smart with the money. 378 00:15:10,035 --> 00:15:12,912 Where did the ideas come from to start these businesses? 379 00:15:12,954 --> 00:15:14,998 I mean, like for you to go and do the line -- 380 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,083 I remember when there was conversation about your line, 381 00:15:17,125 --> 00:15:19,294 and your line being available in Kmart, 382 00:15:19,336 --> 00:15:21,338 which I thought was genius, right? 383 00:15:21,379 --> 00:15:22,756 I was like, holy shit, 384 00:15:22,797 --> 00:15:25,133 to understand how big the world is, 385 00:15:25,175 --> 00:15:27,594 to understand that middle America 386 00:15:27,635 --> 00:15:29,095 is the best part of America, 387 00:15:29,137 --> 00:15:32,057 because those are the most people like responding. 388 00:15:32,098 --> 00:15:35,435 What was it that made you say, "I want to go in this direction, 389 00:15:35,477 --> 00:15:37,270 and this is what I'm going to focus on?" 390 00:15:37,312 --> 00:15:40,065 -Well, you know what, that was even way before "Modern Family," 391 00:15:40,106 --> 00:15:43,234 so in the Latin market, I had my job at Univision, 392 00:15:43,276 --> 00:15:47,197 but at that time in the '90s, I was making money, 393 00:15:47,238 --> 00:15:53,536 but it wasn't really like mansion money or Corvette money. 394 00:15:53,578 --> 00:15:57,207 No, it was money to survive 395 00:15:57,248 --> 00:16:00,502 and to save for my son's college education, 396 00:16:00,543 --> 00:16:02,045 and all that. It was okay. 397 00:16:02,087 --> 00:16:04,881 But I always wanted to -- I always wanted more, you know? 398 00:16:04,923 --> 00:16:07,926 I always wanted to create something for me, 399 00:16:07,967 --> 00:16:09,594 for my son, for my family. 400 00:16:09,636 --> 00:16:12,180 I went from Colombia, from a lot of problems, 401 00:16:12,222 --> 00:16:13,473 to living in the United States. 402 00:16:13,515 --> 00:16:15,725 I wanted to take care of all of them, 403 00:16:15,767 --> 00:16:16,851 so I wanted to make money. 404 00:16:16,893 --> 00:16:19,312 I love money. 405 00:16:19,354 --> 00:16:20,730 [ Both laugh ] 406 00:16:20,772 --> 00:16:21,981 -Okay. 407 00:16:22,023 --> 00:16:26,069 -And then so I started making calendars. 408 00:16:26,111 --> 00:16:29,114 The only thing that I could sell was really myself, you know, 409 00:16:29,155 --> 00:16:31,825 at that time, 'cause I was young and fresh. 410 00:16:31,866 --> 00:16:34,744 I started doing like calendars, 411 00:16:34,786 --> 00:16:37,247 like January, February, all that. 412 00:16:37,288 --> 00:16:40,458 -What? Do -- I'm sorry, January? Do January again. 413 00:16:40,500 --> 00:16:41,876 -January, February. 414 00:16:41,918 --> 00:16:43,670 -It's the same pose, just right to left. 415 00:16:43,712 --> 00:16:44,921 You didn't really change. 416 00:16:44,963 --> 00:16:46,214 Yes, I just want to let you know. 417 00:16:46,256 --> 00:16:50,051 -So one of those, and I did really good. 418 00:16:50,093 --> 00:16:52,470 -Okay, the calendar ends up being a big success. 419 00:16:52,512 --> 00:16:53,805 -Yeah, it was a big success. 420 00:16:53,847 --> 00:16:59,102 And so I started realizing I am the product, 421 00:16:59,144 --> 00:17:03,148 and I can sell myself -- It sounds horrible to say -- 422 00:17:03,189 --> 00:17:05,233 -No, it doesn't. You're talking about your likeness. 423 00:17:05,275 --> 00:17:06,609 -Yes, exactly. -And at the end of the day, 424 00:17:06,651 --> 00:17:08,778 realizing your worth and realizing the value 425 00:17:08,820 --> 00:17:10,989 of your likeness sometimes is overlooked 426 00:17:11,031 --> 00:17:12,282 by a lot of people in the business. 427 00:17:12,323 --> 00:17:14,159 So you catching this is dope as hell. 428 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,786 So what started out as calendars, then became? 429 00:17:16,828 --> 00:17:18,163 -Became more and more stuff, 430 00:17:18,204 --> 00:17:20,957 because for example, I knew that to be able -- 431 00:17:20,999 --> 00:17:25,670 Also, I always had a very good chemistry with girls, 432 00:17:25,712 --> 00:17:29,591 like with woman fans, and they would always 433 00:17:29,632 --> 00:17:31,134 since I'm young come to me when they would meet me 434 00:17:31,176 --> 00:17:32,802 for a picture or something, was like, 435 00:17:32,844 --> 00:17:34,054 Oh, what perfume are you wearing? 436 00:17:34,095 --> 00:17:35,764 Oh, with what do you wash your hair? 437 00:17:35,805 --> 00:17:37,349 Oh, with what is that lipstick? 438 00:17:37,390 --> 00:17:40,518 Oh, where is this outfit?" And so it's always is like -- 439 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,521 -Light bulbs started to go off. -They're always asking me 440 00:17:43,563 --> 00:17:45,815 so I'm like, that's why I always wanted 441 00:17:45,857 --> 00:17:47,734 to create all this, like, 442 00:17:47,776 --> 00:17:49,235 I mean, I wanted to be like -- 443 00:17:49,277 --> 00:17:52,155 I mean, I wish I was like some kind of Martha Stewart, 444 00:17:52,197 --> 00:17:55,033 the Latin, or, you know, it's like -- 445 00:17:55,075 --> 00:17:56,951 -You are, though. -That was always my idea, 446 00:17:56,993 --> 00:17:59,996 my dream. I mean, I cannot even compare. 447 00:18:00,038 --> 00:18:01,456 -But you -- But you are. 448 00:18:01,498 --> 00:18:04,167 Like you -- Granted, Martha's success is her success, 449 00:18:04,209 --> 00:18:05,669 but you're talking about somebody 450 00:18:05,710 --> 00:18:07,921 who's really thriving in the business of commerce, 451 00:18:07,962 --> 00:18:11,341 like creating products, selling product, 452 00:18:11,383 --> 00:18:14,052 and successfully selling more product 453 00:18:14,094 --> 00:18:16,179 and constantly building, well, you are. 454 00:18:16,221 --> 00:18:18,223 So you don't have to say like, I want to try. 455 00:18:18,264 --> 00:18:21,017 I think that's the dopest thing about 456 00:18:21,059 --> 00:18:25,230 your road to monumental success 457 00:18:25,271 --> 00:18:27,732 is that it compounded past the actress. 458 00:18:27,774 --> 00:18:31,528 And acting isn't going to get us to the crazy place of wealth. 459 00:18:31,569 --> 00:18:34,322 That's one tier. It's tapping into the things that you, 460 00:18:34,364 --> 00:18:36,199 that you've done and that you did. 461 00:18:36,241 --> 00:18:39,619 -But, well, but for example, I think now when I started, 462 00:18:39,661 --> 00:18:41,496 well, "Modern Family" finished three years ago, 463 00:18:41,538 --> 00:18:46,418 and I did it for 11 years, so I mean, 14 years ago, 464 00:18:46,459 --> 00:18:50,714 not as many actresses had other businesses. 465 00:18:50,755 --> 00:18:52,007 They were just actresses. 466 00:18:52,048 --> 00:18:54,884 You could see one or two selling something, 467 00:18:54,926 --> 00:18:57,053 but it was not like that. 468 00:18:57,095 --> 00:18:59,597 And because I was coming from the Latin market, 469 00:18:59,639 --> 00:19:03,226 when I got the fame with "Modern Family," 470 00:19:03,268 --> 00:19:06,271 I mean, I knew I could be a person 471 00:19:06,312 --> 00:19:07,731 for commercials, for example, 472 00:19:07,772 --> 00:19:11,359 and then, you know, 473 00:19:11,401 --> 00:19:14,738 what I thought that I could bring to the table 474 00:19:14,779 --> 00:19:19,159 to someone was, for example, if you hire me, 475 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:23,038 you, in one day of shooting, you get it in Spanish, 476 00:19:23,079 --> 00:19:24,581 you get it in English. -Ah. Yes. Okay. 477 00:19:24,622 --> 00:19:29,294 -So why hire Kevin Hart that can only speak English... 478 00:19:29,336 --> 00:19:30,670 -Hold on. -...when you can hire 479 00:19:30,712 --> 00:19:32,213 Sofia Vergara in one day... -What the fuck 480 00:19:32,255 --> 00:19:35,008 is happening, Sofia? -...do it in Spanish 481 00:19:35,050 --> 00:19:36,259 and in English? -Yeah. 482 00:19:36,301 --> 00:19:37,886 -So, you know? But you understand. 483 00:19:37,927 --> 00:19:40,096 -Well, I do, but I don't feel like you have to use me 484 00:19:40,138 --> 00:19:42,432 as an example of what not to hire, by the way -- 485 00:19:42,474 --> 00:19:44,225 -Well, you're here. Who else am I going to use? 486 00:19:44,267 --> 00:19:47,187 -Well, I clearly speak both languages. 487 00:19:47,228 --> 00:19:49,230 -Yeah. -So that's the one mistake 488 00:19:49,272 --> 00:19:51,274 that you've made. We don't have to get into that. 489 00:19:51,316 --> 00:19:52,692 But I do understand. 490 00:19:52,734 --> 00:19:54,611 I mean, look, understanding the value in you, 491 00:19:54,652 --> 00:19:56,321 understanding the value that you bring to the product, 492 00:19:56,363 --> 00:19:59,449 more importantly, creating it, is dope as fuck. 493 00:19:59,491 --> 00:20:01,534 After the success behind creating it 494 00:20:01,576 --> 00:20:04,371 and seeing revenue come in, you didn't get content. 495 00:20:04,412 --> 00:20:06,748 You kept going. You kept creating. 496 00:20:06,790 --> 00:20:10,085 And the idea of business, well, now is not an idea. 497 00:20:10,126 --> 00:20:11,878 It's real, right? It's real. 498 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,298 You have a real business. You have a real infrastructure. 499 00:20:15,340 --> 00:20:18,134 -Well, I think it's that when "Modern Family" hit, 500 00:20:18,176 --> 00:20:20,136 I think me and Luis, my manager, 501 00:20:20,178 --> 00:20:23,098 we had the infrastructure ready to keep working. 502 00:20:23,139 --> 00:20:25,558 Like, I saw the rest of the cast, for example, 503 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,812 we would have five months off. We would shoot seven months, 504 00:20:28,853 --> 00:20:30,188 and then five months, 505 00:20:30,230 --> 00:20:31,690 we were off. -Okay. 506 00:20:31,731 --> 00:20:36,820 -And they would all go to the five months to relax. 507 00:20:36,861 --> 00:20:38,279 -Vacation, chill. 508 00:20:38,321 --> 00:20:41,074 -And those five months, I would work, work, work, 509 00:20:41,116 --> 00:20:44,953 work, work. And the main five, six years of "Modern Family," 510 00:20:44,994 --> 00:20:46,496 I didn't have like one day off. 511 00:20:46,538 --> 00:20:49,916 I was like working, working, working, working, working. 512 00:20:49,958 --> 00:20:52,752 And it paid off. I knew I had the energy, 513 00:20:52,794 --> 00:20:55,213 and I knew -- You never know in our business. 514 00:20:55,255 --> 00:20:58,591 One day, you're the queen, 515 00:20:58,633 --> 00:21:01,761 then the next day, you say a bad joke, and you're done forever. 516 00:21:01,803 --> 00:21:03,680 Have you said any bad jokes, by the way? 517 00:21:03,722 --> 00:21:05,432 -Oh, that's -- I think that's none of your business, alright? 518 00:21:05,473 --> 00:21:07,392 And that's like -- I think what we need to do 519 00:21:07,434 --> 00:21:09,269 is focus on where we are, which is great. 520 00:21:09,310 --> 00:21:11,187 -I mean, you're going to ask me all the questions, 521 00:21:11,229 --> 00:21:12,564 and I cannot ask you one question? 522 00:21:12,605 --> 00:21:15,859 -Well, no. So, I'm driving the goddamn car, alright? 523 00:21:15,900 --> 00:21:17,527 So stay in the passenger seat 524 00:21:17,569 --> 00:21:19,487 and put your seatbelt on and let's -- 525 00:21:19,529 --> 00:21:21,948 -Yeah, the Corvette. I know, you're driving the Corvette. 526 00:21:21,990 --> 00:21:23,033 -Okay. This is ridiculous. 527 00:21:23,074 --> 00:21:24,451 -How much was that car, huh? 528 00:21:24,492 --> 00:21:26,870 -It's none of your business, Sofia, alright? 529 00:21:26,911 --> 00:21:29,289 You know what? I don't know where you're going, 530 00:21:29,330 --> 00:21:31,833 but you keep -- You take the car, and you make a right. 531 00:21:31,875 --> 00:21:34,377 Right now, let's stop the car, and let's take a break. 532 00:21:34,419 --> 00:21:36,087 Guys, we've got to go and pay some bills. 533 00:21:36,129 --> 00:21:39,132 We'll be right back with more "Hart to Heart" after this. 534 00:21:53,229 --> 00:21:54,689 -Welcome back to "Hart to Heart." 535 00:21:54,731 --> 00:21:57,859 We're still here with Sofia Vergara, having a ball. 536 00:21:57,901 --> 00:22:01,446 What I love about what you said is the work, work, work, right? 537 00:22:01,488 --> 00:22:03,573 The idea of work, work, work, I think it comes 538 00:22:03,615 --> 00:22:05,867 from understanding what it's like to not have anything. 539 00:22:05,909 --> 00:22:08,244 -Yes. -And when you come from a place 540 00:22:08,286 --> 00:22:09,871 that's considered to be the bottom 541 00:22:09,913 --> 00:22:13,583 or considered to be a pretty tough environment, 542 00:22:13,625 --> 00:22:15,710 leaving that environment and having the opportunity 543 00:22:15,752 --> 00:22:18,630 to change, well, you don't want to look back. 544 00:22:18,672 --> 00:22:22,008 So, the work, work, work, is engineered 545 00:22:22,050 --> 00:22:24,052 and motivated from that. 546 00:22:24,094 --> 00:22:26,721 I can respect that, because I understand that. 547 00:22:26,763 --> 00:22:28,223 I come from the same thing. 548 00:22:28,264 --> 00:22:31,643 What -- How bad was it where you were coming from, 549 00:22:31,685 --> 00:22:34,646 like, when you talk about Colombia? 550 00:22:34,688 --> 00:22:37,482 -I mean, I grew up in Colombia in the '80s 551 00:22:37,524 --> 00:22:40,819 and, you know, the '70s and the '80s. 552 00:22:40,860 --> 00:22:45,281 In the '90s, I went to Miami, like in the middle of the '90s. 553 00:22:45,323 --> 00:22:49,619 Colombia was a very rough place because of narco traffic. 554 00:22:49,661 --> 00:22:52,122 And, 555 00:22:52,163 --> 00:22:56,668 you know, my brother was killed in Colombia in 1996. 556 00:22:56,710 --> 00:23:01,381 I was already one year in Miami before that. 557 00:23:01,423 --> 00:23:04,634 But Colombia was a difficult place. 558 00:23:04,676 --> 00:23:09,639 And I moved out of Colombia because I knew 559 00:23:09,681 --> 00:23:12,767 I wanted something different for me and for my son. 560 00:23:12,809 --> 00:23:16,187 And it all worked out, but unfortunately, 561 00:23:16,229 --> 00:23:18,481 like a year later, that happened to my brother. 562 00:23:18,523 --> 00:23:22,318 And I had a -- I've had a difficult life. 563 00:23:22,360 --> 00:23:25,405 I never usually sit down to think about it, 564 00:23:25,447 --> 00:23:30,452 but when I talk about it and I say things that, 565 00:23:30,493 --> 00:23:32,996 situations that I was in or that happened, 566 00:23:33,038 --> 00:23:37,292 my husband, Joe, is like "Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. 567 00:23:37,334 --> 00:23:38,960 What? What did you just said?" 568 00:23:39,002 --> 00:23:40,587 -Yeah, it's kind of mind blowing. 569 00:23:40,628 --> 00:23:42,672 -It's like, "What did you just said? 570 00:23:42,714 --> 00:23:46,468 That who was picked up in a bag, 571 00:23:46,509 --> 00:23:48,553 in a plastic bag chopped in little pieces? 572 00:23:48,595 --> 00:23:53,683 Who?" And stuff like that that I say, like experiences. 573 00:23:53,725 --> 00:23:56,686 And that's when I notice is like, oh, my God, 574 00:23:56,728 --> 00:24:00,690 I did. I have been through a lot of crazy stuff 575 00:24:00,732 --> 00:24:02,817 that, I mean, I couldn't even tell you here, 576 00:24:02,859 --> 00:24:05,820 because I don't know you that well, but -- 577 00:24:05,862 --> 00:24:07,989 [ Laughter ] 578 00:24:08,031 --> 00:24:11,826 -Well, I feel like -- I feel like we do know each other. 579 00:24:11,868 --> 00:24:14,662 I mean, that's why you're here, because we have a relationship. 580 00:24:14,704 --> 00:24:17,665 So, a lot of this stuff, she's kidding. 581 00:24:17,707 --> 00:24:21,252 Because we are like this, you and I, 582 00:24:21,294 --> 00:24:23,546 which is a great thing. 583 00:24:23,588 --> 00:24:26,883 Let's now get to the place of now, right? 584 00:24:26,925 --> 00:24:29,844 You've had more success. After the show, you stepped out. 585 00:24:29,886 --> 00:24:32,847 You then went and did a movie, and you were nominated, 586 00:24:32,889 --> 00:24:36,017 and you're now winning awards on this side, right? 587 00:24:36,059 --> 00:24:39,354 -You're making me sound like I'm some like -- 588 00:24:39,396 --> 00:24:43,066 I mean, I still have -- What? 589 00:24:43,108 --> 00:24:44,693 -I'm trying to -- 'cause you're like -- 590 00:24:44,734 --> 00:24:46,319 -Okay, what, you're making fun of my accent now? 591 00:24:46,361 --> 00:24:47,779 -No, you're trying to make it seem like I'm lying? 592 00:24:47,821 --> 00:24:49,197 What am I saying that's not true? 593 00:24:49,239 --> 00:24:50,490 -I think you're exaggerating. 594 00:24:50,532 --> 00:24:53,284 -Okay, so what did I say that isn't true? 595 00:24:53,326 --> 00:24:54,536 -But when you say it -- 596 00:24:54,577 --> 00:24:58,039 -What did I say that isn't true? 597 00:24:58,081 --> 00:24:59,541 Have I lied? -No. 598 00:24:59,582 --> 00:25:01,710 -Have I falsified anything? -No. 599 00:25:01,751 --> 00:25:04,504 -Am I dealing with facts? -Yes. 600 00:25:04,546 --> 00:25:06,047 -Okay, so then what are you talking about? 601 00:25:06,089 --> 00:25:08,383 -Well, because when you put them all together, 602 00:25:08,425 --> 00:25:11,094 they sound really exaggerated. 603 00:25:11,136 --> 00:25:13,179 [ Laughter ] 604 00:25:13,221 --> 00:25:14,556 -I just asked, I said, 605 00:25:14,597 --> 00:25:17,600 am I telling the truth and you told me, yes. 606 00:25:17,642 --> 00:25:19,853 I said are these facts? You said, yes. 607 00:25:19,894 --> 00:25:22,105 And then you said when I put them together, 608 00:25:22,147 --> 00:25:23,481 they sound exaggerated. 609 00:25:23,523 --> 00:25:26,818 Sofia, that doesn't make any sense. Okay? 610 00:25:26,860 --> 00:25:29,738 Okay, what I'm doing is telling you about you, 611 00:25:29,779 --> 00:25:31,906 and this is the amazing part about you 612 00:25:31,948 --> 00:25:34,200 and where you are. Like, it's exciting. 613 00:25:34,242 --> 00:25:37,037 And I told you this show was about flowers. 614 00:25:37,078 --> 00:25:40,415 It's about uplifting the person that's sitting in this chair. 615 00:25:40,457 --> 00:25:43,543 I mean, right now, that's a dope ass thing, to leave that -- 616 00:25:43,585 --> 00:25:44,753 -Well, I've never been in a show 617 00:25:44,794 --> 00:25:46,755 that they're trying to get me drunk. 618 00:25:46,796 --> 00:25:49,049 -Yeah, well, as you -- Okay. Alright. 619 00:25:49,090 --> 00:25:51,259 Well, you know what? I'm going to fucking catch up. 620 00:25:51,301 --> 00:25:52,427 -Where's your friend? 621 00:25:52,469 --> 00:25:53,678 -Hold on. Hold on. He is coming. 622 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,638 Hold on. Will you wait for me? 623 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,141 Hold on. -Okay, look, look at this. 624 00:25:58,183 --> 00:26:00,560 [ Laughs ] 625 00:26:00,602 --> 00:26:02,103 -I can't leave her behind. 626 00:26:02,145 --> 00:26:04,856 She's the one that's going to take me down right here. 627 00:26:04,898 --> 00:26:07,734 Right here, I'm-a fuck around and shit myself right here. 628 00:26:07,776 --> 00:26:10,153 Here's where it's going to happen. Because of Sofia. 629 00:26:10,195 --> 00:26:13,239 You want to have a good time, then let's have a good time. 630 00:26:13,281 --> 00:26:16,409 Okay, D? Don't worry about it. I got it. 631 00:26:16,451 --> 00:26:17,452 Okay. Alright, what are you doing? 632 00:26:17,494 --> 00:26:18,703 What are you trying to do? 633 00:26:18,745 --> 00:26:19,871 That's enough. Jesus. -I mean, 634 00:26:19,913 --> 00:26:21,289 this is really good stuff. 635 00:26:21,331 --> 00:26:22,415 -It is good stuff. -Yeah. 636 00:26:22,457 --> 00:26:23,667 -By the way -- -Thank you. 637 00:26:23,708 --> 00:26:24,918 -Thank you, D. -You're very welcome. 638 00:26:24,959 --> 00:26:26,628 -This is such a good conversation, 639 00:26:26,670 --> 00:26:27,962 not only because we're having fun, 640 00:26:28,004 --> 00:26:29,839 but because this is what you are. Right? 641 00:26:29,881 --> 00:26:32,592 This is who you are. Ladies and gentlemen, 642 00:26:32,634 --> 00:26:34,135 we're going to take a quick break. 643 00:26:34,177 --> 00:26:37,055 We got more "Hart to Heart" coming back after this. 644 00:26:51,945 --> 00:26:53,279 -Welcome back. This is "Hart to Heart," 645 00:26:53,321 --> 00:26:56,032 and I'm still speaking Spanish... 646 00:26:56,074 --> 00:26:58,868 [ Imitating Spanish speaking ] ...to Sofia Vergara. 647 00:26:58,910 --> 00:27:01,996 Alright, so, Sofia, what else do you want to do, 648 00:27:02,038 --> 00:27:03,873 like, at this point in your career? 649 00:27:03,915 --> 00:27:05,375 Like you've done so much. 650 00:27:05,417 --> 00:27:08,795 What else is on the horizon or the want? 651 00:27:08,837 --> 00:27:10,463 -You know what? It's funny because I never 652 00:27:10,505 --> 00:27:13,133 really, like, plan too much 653 00:27:13,174 --> 00:27:16,052 because I let the opportunities, you know -- 654 00:27:16,094 --> 00:27:18,722 I feel like I need to be ready for the opportunities. 655 00:27:18,763 --> 00:27:22,142 That, I am, always, because I feel like 656 00:27:22,183 --> 00:27:25,145 what is there to lose in our business? 657 00:27:25,186 --> 00:27:27,022 It's not like we're doing brain surgery 658 00:27:27,063 --> 00:27:29,357 that we can actually kill somebody. 659 00:27:29,399 --> 00:27:33,194 Or, I mean, well, I guess for you it's more difficult now 660 00:27:33,236 --> 00:27:36,281 because now you can be -- you have to be very -- 661 00:27:36,322 --> 00:27:40,160 with what you say, right, for your shows and all that? 662 00:27:40,201 --> 00:27:43,955 -There's a climate where you need to be careful. 663 00:27:43,997 --> 00:27:45,957 You need to be understanding and present 664 00:27:45,999 --> 00:27:48,668 and mindful of the climate. -Yeah. Exactly. 665 00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:50,086 Is that hard for you? 666 00:27:50,128 --> 00:27:52,380 -No. I mean, I'm pretty easy 667 00:27:52,422 --> 00:27:53,923 when it comes to the world of adapting. 668 00:27:53,965 --> 00:27:55,425 I don't need to attack or bash. 669 00:27:55,467 --> 00:27:59,054 -It kind of has lost all the fun a little bit, no? 670 00:27:59,095 --> 00:28:00,972 -I think it depends on how you look at it, right? 671 00:28:01,014 --> 00:28:03,016 I look at it through two different lenses. 672 00:28:03,058 --> 00:28:09,105 I think the idea of being a little more present 673 00:28:09,147 --> 00:28:11,316 and understanding of people's feelings 674 00:28:11,358 --> 00:28:13,068 was needed and necessary. -Yeah, for sure. 675 00:28:13,109 --> 00:28:14,986 -I think for a long time, we've overlooked 676 00:28:15,028 --> 00:28:17,364 how hurtful some words or some actions can be, 677 00:28:17,405 --> 00:28:22,410 and I think what we've been through, it's definitely -- 678 00:28:22,452 --> 00:28:24,537 It's shined a light on a lot of things that you're like, 679 00:28:24,579 --> 00:28:26,373 "Oh, damn, I can see how somebody would be hurt. 680 00:28:26,414 --> 00:28:28,333 I can see how somebody would be fucked up from that." 681 00:28:28,375 --> 00:28:30,960 You know what? I don't mind making those changes. 682 00:28:31,002 --> 00:28:34,047 Moving forward, I will be more mindful. 683 00:28:34,089 --> 00:28:36,091 I will be more aware. I'm all for that. 684 00:28:36,132 --> 00:28:38,551 And I think there's another side of it 685 00:28:38,593 --> 00:28:39,886 that's a little too sensitive 686 00:28:39,928 --> 00:28:43,473 to where we've kind of lost the idea of fun. 687 00:28:43,515 --> 00:28:45,934 -The fun, yeah. -And the lighthearted approach 688 00:28:45,975 --> 00:28:47,769 to some things. Everything doesn't have to be 689 00:28:47,811 --> 00:28:49,938 the hardest hit. -No, and not everything 690 00:28:49,979 --> 00:28:52,857 has to be like an offense. -Absolutely, and I think 691 00:28:52,899 --> 00:28:54,401 that's where it gets a little weird 692 00:28:54,442 --> 00:28:56,152 that everything is perceived to be. 693 00:28:56,194 --> 00:29:00,907 But you ultimately have to conform to the time of now. 694 00:29:00,949 --> 00:29:02,909 So, change is good. 695 00:29:02,951 --> 00:29:06,162 No matter how much, how little, change is good. 696 00:29:06,204 --> 00:29:07,789 Ultimately, you want to change for the better, 697 00:29:07,831 --> 00:29:09,290 and I think that I am. 698 00:29:09,332 --> 00:29:14,379 And I think that we as people are all kind of grasping 699 00:29:14,421 --> 00:29:16,506 the idea of what that is, and hopefully we all -- 700 00:29:16,548 --> 00:29:20,093 -I think we're still like doing like this, you know? 701 00:29:20,135 --> 00:29:23,179 Everything has to find like a really good balance. 702 00:29:23,221 --> 00:29:24,556 -Absolutely. -But like to answer 703 00:29:24,597 --> 00:29:26,599 your question before, 704 00:29:26,641 --> 00:29:29,769 I want to keep working. I'm 50. 705 00:29:29,811 --> 00:29:33,273 I just did a series with Netflix that, 706 00:29:33,314 --> 00:29:36,818 it was six episode, and I've never done anything like that. 707 00:29:36,860 --> 00:29:41,031 I've never done an acting job like an -- 708 00:29:41,072 --> 00:29:42,949 -You play like a -- It's a serious role, yeah. 709 00:29:42,991 --> 00:29:46,786 -Yeah, it's a very serious role, very intense. 710 00:29:46,828 --> 00:29:48,913 She was a very bad woman. 711 00:29:48,955 --> 00:29:51,958 -You had to be yourself. 712 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,169 -No, I had to be like my mother. No, I'm kidding. 713 00:29:54,210 --> 00:29:56,838 -No, you had to be like who you, like -- 714 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,923 -Who I really am? Yes. 715 00:29:58,965 --> 00:30:00,800 Was it easy for me? -Yes, of course. 716 00:30:00,842 --> 00:30:03,803 -I kind of looked -- Now I look deep -- 717 00:30:03,845 --> 00:30:05,930 -What's happening? What are you doing? 718 00:30:05,972 --> 00:30:08,808 -I'm thinking, like no, I think -- 719 00:30:08,850 --> 00:30:10,143 -Well, why'd you start doing this? 720 00:30:10,185 --> 00:30:12,270 -I don't know. I said like inside of me. 721 00:30:12,312 --> 00:30:13,897 -Well, just say inside. You don't have to try 722 00:30:13,938 --> 00:30:16,232 to get in yourself. What just happened? 723 00:30:16,274 --> 00:30:17,734 You just tried to jump in your body. 724 00:30:17,776 --> 00:30:19,152 Like, what are you doing? 725 00:30:19,194 --> 00:30:21,988 What is this? "I think -- I'm trying to --" 726 00:30:22,030 --> 00:30:24,616 Then you start doing this shit. What is this? 727 00:30:24,657 --> 00:30:29,329 So, it was a drama, of course a different character. 728 00:30:29,371 --> 00:30:30,997 -Very different. Very difficult. I had to -- 729 00:30:31,039 --> 00:30:32,999 -Did you like it, though? 730 00:30:33,041 --> 00:30:36,086 -I liked it, but I now I kind of understand 731 00:30:36,127 --> 00:30:39,172 why actors that are always like in those roles, 732 00:30:39,214 --> 00:30:40,840 they kind of -- -Go a little crazy. 733 00:30:40,882 --> 00:30:42,509 -It's too much. -Really. 734 00:30:42,550 --> 00:30:46,680 -I had to, in every scene, had to cry, kill someone, 735 00:30:46,721 --> 00:30:49,140 or hit someone 736 00:30:49,182 --> 00:30:51,476 or say horrible things. 737 00:30:51,518 --> 00:30:55,021 And it was -- And coming from 11 years of "Modern Family," 738 00:30:55,063 --> 00:30:58,817 that it was all like, you're cracking up on set. 739 00:30:58,858 --> 00:31:00,151 You go home happy. 740 00:31:00,193 --> 00:31:02,529 It's like here, it was like intense. 741 00:31:02,570 --> 00:31:06,116 It was like six months of -- I mean, and then on top of that 742 00:31:06,157 --> 00:31:10,870 I had to completely had, like, a transformation. 743 00:31:10,912 --> 00:31:14,207 -Yeah. Did you take it home with you? 744 00:31:14,249 --> 00:31:16,376 -The wig and the transform -- -No, no, the work. 745 00:31:16,418 --> 00:31:19,713 Did you feel like you took the character home at times? 746 00:31:19,754 --> 00:31:20,922 -Yes, totally. 747 00:31:20,964 --> 00:31:23,425 Yeah, I was like in a very dark place. 748 00:31:23,466 --> 00:31:26,302 I think I did a couple of things that I wouldn't have done 749 00:31:26,344 --> 00:31:29,264 if I was not in -- I'm not going to tell you what they were, 750 00:31:29,305 --> 00:31:31,891 but, like, something, behavior. 751 00:31:31,933 --> 00:31:34,227 My behavior was weird. I know it, 752 00:31:34,269 --> 00:31:37,647 because you're all day long doing that, for six months. 753 00:31:37,689 --> 00:31:41,609 And I was in every single scene. So it was like exhausting. 754 00:31:41,651 --> 00:31:43,194 -I want you to look into that lens, 755 00:31:43,236 --> 00:31:45,321 and I want you to apologize to Joe right now. 756 00:31:45,363 --> 00:31:46,698 -Why Joe? -Well, because 757 00:31:46,740 --> 00:31:48,783 he didn't deserve that. -It wasn't to Joe. 758 00:31:48,825 --> 00:31:51,828 -Well, whatever you did, I know Joe's the one that received it. 759 00:31:51,870 --> 00:31:53,371 So you got to say sorry. -Well, yeah, 760 00:31:53,413 --> 00:31:55,623 I didn't pay attention to him that much. 761 00:31:55,665 --> 00:31:56,958 -Yeah, so say sorry to Joe. 762 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,168 -I'm sorry. 763 00:31:58,209 --> 00:31:59,711 -Joe, see what I'm saying? 764 00:31:59,753 --> 00:32:01,379 I know. See what I'm saying, Joe? We locked in. 765 00:32:01,421 --> 00:32:02,672 -Yeah, but you don't pay attention to me 766 00:32:02,714 --> 00:32:04,215 sometimes, too. -Okay, that's enough. 767 00:32:04,257 --> 00:32:05,675 No, that's enough -- -Sometimes when I go 768 00:32:05,717 --> 00:32:07,761 to the house and you're -- -Okay, that's enough. 769 00:32:07,802 --> 00:32:09,387 Okay. Sorry, Joe. 770 00:32:09,429 --> 00:32:11,598 Backfired. Backfired, Joe. 771 00:32:11,639 --> 00:32:13,683 Backfired. Sorry, buddy. 772 00:32:13,725 --> 00:32:15,810 [ Laughter ] 773 00:32:15,852 --> 00:32:18,605 I fucking love Sofia! 774 00:32:18,646 --> 00:32:21,316 Okay, this is just way too much fun. We're laughing too much. 775 00:32:21,358 --> 00:32:25,320 So stop for a second so I can be responsible and take a break. 776 00:32:25,362 --> 00:32:27,614 Guys, "Hart to Heart." We'll be right back. 777 00:32:27,655 --> 00:32:30,283 Sofia Vergara. It's not going to get better, 778 00:32:30,325 --> 00:32:33,370 it's going to get funnier. We'll see you in a second. 779 00:32:48,134 --> 00:32:50,136 -Welcome back to "Hart to Heart." 780 00:32:50,178 --> 00:32:53,264 Okay, so, Sofia, with this character, 781 00:32:53,306 --> 00:32:54,641 here's a good question for you, right? 782 00:32:54,683 --> 00:32:57,102 You're like okay, it was dark. It was a lot. 783 00:32:57,143 --> 00:33:00,814 And you're like, "Man, I don't know." 784 00:33:00,855 --> 00:33:03,316 Not that you didn't like it, but I didn't love it, 785 00:33:03,358 --> 00:33:05,443 but did you go 786 00:33:05,485 --> 00:33:09,239 and get someone that acted as like help for you 787 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,867 to really step into character? Did you just do it yourself? 788 00:33:12,909 --> 00:33:14,452 Like, what was the preparation for that? 789 00:33:14,494 --> 00:33:16,621 -No, I hired -- To be honest with you, 790 00:33:16,663 --> 00:33:20,417 like I've never felt like I am like an actress, 791 00:33:20,458 --> 00:33:22,252 because I never went to acting school. 792 00:33:22,293 --> 00:33:24,879 I never really took classes, nothing. 793 00:33:24,921 --> 00:33:27,090 I just jumped in. I moved to LA. 794 00:33:27,132 --> 00:33:29,384 I said I'm going to do this. Let's see what happens, 795 00:33:29,426 --> 00:33:31,594 and then it happened. Exactly. -Same. Same. 796 00:33:31,636 --> 00:33:36,057 -But I never had -- So I've always, when I feel like -- 797 00:33:36,099 --> 00:33:39,477 when I hear real actors talking about acting and techniques 798 00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:42,022 and things, I'm just like -- 799 00:33:42,063 --> 00:33:43,982 -Yeah. Yeah. By the way, same. 800 00:33:44,024 --> 00:33:45,483 -Yeah. It's like it's weird. 801 00:33:45,525 --> 00:33:50,321 -We didn't go through the same world of preparation. 802 00:33:50,363 --> 00:33:52,949 We got better at our craft as we 803 00:33:52,991 --> 00:33:54,993 got more opportunities, yes. -As you did things, exactly. 804 00:33:55,035 --> 00:33:57,829 -So our schooling came within the live work 805 00:33:57,871 --> 00:34:00,165 that presented itself, and then we naturally got better. 806 00:34:00,206 --> 00:34:01,708 So as more opportunities came, alright, 807 00:34:01,750 --> 00:34:03,585 well, I'm going to embrace this. I'm going to knock it out. 808 00:34:03,626 --> 00:34:06,254 But you became a well-oiled machine because you got reps -- 809 00:34:06,296 --> 00:34:08,506 -Can you cry? -I can cry on the spot. 810 00:34:08,548 --> 00:34:10,300 -Can you? -Yes. 811 00:34:10,342 --> 00:34:11,343 -I -- 812 00:34:11,384 --> 00:34:13,428 -On the spot. 813 00:34:15,305 --> 00:34:16,514 -Let me see. -I'm going to do it. 814 00:34:16,556 --> 00:34:17,891 -Let me see. -You want to see it? 815 00:34:17,932 --> 00:34:19,100 -Yeah. -Alright, 816 00:34:19,142 --> 00:34:20,477 you better fucking buckle up. 817 00:34:20,518 --> 00:34:22,729 -Let me see. -Here it comes. 818 00:34:27,734 --> 00:34:29,694 -You look like -- -They have the air on. 819 00:34:29,736 --> 00:34:31,529 Is the air on? -You look like 820 00:34:31,571 --> 00:34:33,406 you're having like a seizure. -The air's on. 821 00:34:33,448 --> 00:34:35,325 No, okay, does this look like a seizure? 822 00:34:35,367 --> 00:34:38,745 Are you ready for this? 823 00:34:38,787 --> 00:34:40,914 -Now you look constipated. -No. No, 824 00:34:40,955 --> 00:34:42,457 no, 'cause you didn't let me finish. 825 00:34:42,499 --> 00:34:44,459 -Okay. Finish. 826 00:34:46,628 --> 00:34:49,005 -I don't want to do it. Listen, what I do want to do -- 827 00:34:49,047 --> 00:34:52,676 -Well, anyways, I didn't think I knew how to do it. 828 00:34:52,717 --> 00:34:54,678 -You can do it. And on a serious -- 829 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,471 -No, I know now that I can do it, but I didn't -- 830 00:34:56,513 --> 00:34:58,598 -'Cause you put yourself in the situation. 831 00:34:58,640 --> 00:34:59,974 You put yourself in the situation, 832 00:35:00,016 --> 00:35:01,434 you're going to cry because you're acting. 833 00:35:01,476 --> 00:35:02,977 -I'm not a crier person. 834 00:35:03,019 --> 00:35:05,230 I am a little bit weird. 835 00:35:05,271 --> 00:35:09,192 Like I don't cry that much. 836 00:35:09,234 --> 00:35:10,819 -[ Whistles ] -I am, yes. 837 00:35:10,860 --> 00:35:15,407 Yeah, And I was very, very worried 838 00:35:15,448 --> 00:35:16,783 that I was not going to be able to cry. 839 00:35:16,825 --> 00:35:19,619 -Can I give you a true story, like seriously? 840 00:35:19,661 --> 00:35:21,871 I'm joking around about playing like oh, yeah, 841 00:35:21,913 --> 00:35:23,915 I can cry and just joking now -- -Because you can't cry. 842 00:35:23,957 --> 00:35:26,292 -Well, I'm going to give -- Can you fucking listen to my story? 843 00:35:26,334 --> 00:35:28,420 -Okay, but can you cry or not cry? 844 00:35:28,461 --> 00:35:29,713 -I'm about to fucking tell you! 845 00:35:29,754 --> 00:35:32,382 -Okay, tell me. Okay, go ahead, go on. 846 00:35:32,424 --> 00:35:33,883 -Okay, I'm trying. -Okay. 847 00:35:33,925 --> 00:35:38,263 -Alright, so we did the, this movie, "Fatherhood," right? 848 00:35:38,304 --> 00:35:40,098 And "Fatherhood," 849 00:35:40,140 --> 00:35:44,769 a story about me with this little girl, father, 850 00:35:44,811 --> 00:35:46,855 who had to overcome trials and tribulations 851 00:35:46,896 --> 00:35:48,940 of taking on the responsibility of fatherhood 852 00:35:48,982 --> 00:35:50,442 while not having the means to do it. 853 00:35:50,483 --> 00:35:52,944 -Okay. -My wife died at the delivery, 854 00:35:52,986 --> 00:35:55,572 and oh, my God, my life, right? -Okay. 855 00:35:55,613 --> 00:35:58,074 -And the first scene, I'm with Alfre Woodard, 856 00:35:58,116 --> 00:36:03,788 and this is like Day 12 of the movie, maybe. 857 00:36:03,830 --> 00:36:07,500 And the whole shoot, I'm thinking about this day, 858 00:36:07,542 --> 00:36:09,377 because of Alfre Woodard, 859 00:36:09,419 --> 00:36:12,714 and I'm like polish, poise, 860 00:36:12,756 --> 00:36:14,549 not just an actress, but you know -- 861 00:36:14,591 --> 00:36:16,384 -Like how are you going to get to that level 862 00:36:16,426 --> 00:36:17,719 and not look like -- -How am I going -- 863 00:36:17,761 --> 00:36:19,220 because I know where she's coming in at, 864 00:36:19,262 --> 00:36:21,222 and I need to make sure on this day, I'm prepared. 865 00:36:21,264 --> 00:36:23,600 And I really, I just, I didn't know, and I said, 866 00:36:23,641 --> 00:36:26,394 if I don't get lost in the scene, 867 00:36:26,436 --> 00:36:28,355 I'm not going to be able to pull it off. 868 00:36:28,396 --> 00:36:30,565 And on the day, 869 00:36:30,607 --> 00:36:34,361 on the actual fucking day, 870 00:36:34,402 --> 00:36:35,820 I tell the director, I said, 871 00:36:35,862 --> 00:36:39,949 "Can you start off close, and we get it, 872 00:36:39,991 --> 00:36:43,536 and then as we get wide, we know that we've got it? 873 00:36:43,578 --> 00:36:44,913 Because I don't know how many times 874 00:36:44,954 --> 00:36:46,206 I'm going to be able to get it." 875 00:36:46,247 --> 00:36:47,749 -Yeah. -And I said 876 00:36:47,791 --> 00:36:51,127 I have to get lost in the world of what Alfre does. 877 00:36:51,169 --> 00:36:52,337 -Yeah. -Because I know 878 00:36:52,379 --> 00:36:53,546 how she's going to come in. 879 00:36:53,588 --> 00:36:56,424 And I really waited to see 880 00:36:56,466 --> 00:36:58,927 what Alfre's performance was in the scene. 881 00:36:58,968 --> 00:37:02,514 Alfre's performance made me fucking cry. 882 00:37:02,555 --> 00:37:05,684 All of my tears came from what she did. 883 00:37:05,725 --> 00:37:10,021 Her reaction to her daughter dying is what made me, 884 00:37:10,063 --> 00:37:13,358 as the husband, cry. 'Cause I was in the hallway, 885 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,611 trying to be strong until the mother presented herself. 886 00:37:16,653 --> 00:37:18,154 -Yeah, but those are things like, for example, 887 00:37:18,196 --> 00:37:20,949 don't you think that they teach them in acting class -- 888 00:37:20,990 --> 00:37:23,326 -Yes, but we don't know that -- -We don't know those things -- 889 00:37:23,368 --> 00:37:24,369 -So we had to find a cheat sheet. 890 00:37:24,411 --> 00:37:25,954 -So it's like crazy 891 00:37:25,995 --> 00:37:27,539 and super scary. -That was my cheat sheet. 892 00:37:27,580 --> 00:37:28,873 -Your chi chi? -Cheat sheet. 893 00:37:28,915 --> 00:37:31,126 Like in other words, that's what I used. 894 00:37:31,167 --> 00:37:32,502 I didn't want to say that. 895 00:37:32,544 --> 00:37:34,462 I didn't want to voice that, but I was like -- 896 00:37:34,504 --> 00:37:36,006 -Chi chi? You didn't want to -- 897 00:37:36,047 --> 00:37:37,257 -Cheat. Sheet. 898 00:37:37,298 --> 00:37:38,883 -Oh! Cheat sheet. 899 00:37:38,925 --> 00:37:41,261 -What -- Don't -- I didn't fucking say it like that. 900 00:37:41,302 --> 00:37:42,721 -I thought you said chi chi. 901 00:37:42,762 --> 00:37:45,348 -No, cheat...sheet. Okay? 902 00:37:45,390 --> 00:37:47,350 That's how I cheated. 903 00:37:47,392 --> 00:37:48,518 God damn it, you want me to say it? 904 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,353 I fucking cheated, Sofia! 905 00:37:50,395 --> 00:37:52,564 I mean, that's what she's trying to get me to say, 906 00:37:52,605 --> 00:37:54,524 that I cheated. You think you're slick. 907 00:37:54,566 --> 00:37:56,901 She wants me to say I cheated! Fine! 908 00:37:56,943 --> 00:37:59,320 I cheated. I didn't do my homework. 909 00:37:59,362 --> 00:38:03,825 -Well, I kind of cheated, too, because I really like, 910 00:38:03,867 --> 00:38:07,245 I was, nobody really in the scenes was making me cry. 911 00:38:07,287 --> 00:38:10,165 I was the one making people cry in that scene, 912 00:38:10,206 --> 00:38:11,416 'cause I was a monster. 913 00:38:11,458 --> 00:38:14,836 But I would try to remember -- 914 00:38:14,878 --> 00:38:18,590 It was horrible. And I think my son is here. 915 00:38:18,631 --> 00:38:21,593 And I used to think, 916 00:38:21,634 --> 00:38:23,178 the only thing that would make me cry was 917 00:38:23,219 --> 00:38:26,723 that I would picture my son like in a horrible car accident. 918 00:38:26,765 --> 00:38:28,933 -Yeah, something bad. -And that would make me cry. 919 00:38:28,975 --> 00:38:31,853 -By the way, to you, not that she wants that, 920 00:38:31,895 --> 00:38:34,647 but I swear to you, I mean this, I mean this -- 921 00:38:34,689 --> 00:38:36,274 -It was horrible. -Hand on the Bible -- 922 00:38:36,316 --> 00:38:39,319 -Because I would even picture my brother when he was shot, 923 00:38:39,361 --> 00:38:40,779 and that didn't make me cry. 924 00:38:40,820 --> 00:38:43,031 It was like, I'm like, oh, what am I going to do? 925 00:38:43,073 --> 00:38:45,408 -Sofia, I swear to you, hand on the Bible, 926 00:38:45,450 --> 00:38:48,578 hand on the Bible, I understand where you're coming from 927 00:38:48,620 --> 00:38:50,413 because you're trying to use whatever you can 928 00:38:50,455 --> 00:38:51,790 to get to that place. 929 00:38:51,831 --> 00:38:53,708 And it's not that you're wishing bad on people 930 00:38:53,750 --> 00:38:56,419 or that you're -- You're trying 931 00:38:56,461 --> 00:39:00,632 to think of the darkest things to help you gravitate. 932 00:39:00,674 --> 00:39:04,302 And by the way, this is because we're not in the space of know. 933 00:39:04,344 --> 00:39:06,721 We're learning it in real-time. 934 00:39:06,763 --> 00:39:09,808 But after you get in real-time and you understand it, 935 00:39:09,849 --> 00:39:11,851 I will tell you now, 936 00:39:11,893 --> 00:39:14,938 I know that it's more about pulling from the actors 937 00:39:14,979 --> 00:39:18,900 or actresses that are around you to help you understand 938 00:39:18,942 --> 00:39:20,694 the moment, embrace the moment. 939 00:39:20,735 --> 00:39:22,570 And everybody plays a part in that. 940 00:39:22,612 --> 00:39:24,280 It's not just you and your performance. 941 00:39:24,322 --> 00:39:25,907 That's where your partners come into play, 942 00:39:25,949 --> 00:39:28,076 and that's one thing that I did learn. 943 00:39:28,118 --> 00:39:30,787 And my costars made me better over the time. 944 00:39:30,829 --> 00:39:32,497 I was talking about Alfre Woodard there, 945 00:39:32,539 --> 00:39:33,832 but then "The Upside," 946 00:39:33,873 --> 00:39:36,001 I was with Bryan Cranston and Nicole Kidman. 947 00:39:36,042 --> 00:39:38,920 Like my serious roles that I've taken on, 948 00:39:38,962 --> 00:39:43,341 I was surrounded by A-listers but that were fucking machines. 949 00:39:43,383 --> 00:39:45,427 That's how you learn. -Yeah, when I was going 950 00:39:45,468 --> 00:39:48,138 to do this role, I am a producer 951 00:39:48,179 --> 00:39:51,224 on "Griselda," on the show. -On the show. Good for you. 952 00:39:51,266 --> 00:39:53,351 -And I wanted, 953 00:39:53,393 --> 00:39:56,521 I mean, I made sure that all the actors -- 954 00:39:56,563 --> 00:39:59,357 We speak Spanish and English at the same time in the show. 955 00:39:59,399 --> 00:40:01,860 And of course, this is a real-life story. 956 00:40:01,901 --> 00:40:05,363 This is a woman that existed in Miami and LA. 957 00:40:05,405 --> 00:40:09,075 It was Griselda Blanco, and so I made sure 958 00:40:09,117 --> 00:40:11,953 that they were the best actors in Latin America. 959 00:40:11,995 --> 00:40:17,167 And I couldn't let anyone tell me, oh, let's put this girl 960 00:40:17,208 --> 00:40:19,461 because somebody knows her. I'm like, no, 961 00:40:19,502 --> 00:40:22,922 I knew I had to surround myself with the best people. 962 00:40:22,964 --> 00:40:25,383 And that is super important because -- 963 00:40:25,425 --> 00:40:27,052 -How does that make you feel, 964 00:40:27,093 --> 00:40:31,056 knowing that you're creating opportunities for your people, 965 00:40:31,097 --> 00:40:34,893 your culture, right? Like from where you come from, 966 00:40:34,934 --> 00:40:39,064 being able to go back and say, hey, guys, I've made it. 967 00:40:39,105 --> 00:40:41,566 I have this tremendous amount of success, 968 00:40:41,608 --> 00:40:43,068 but now I want to act as a bridge, 969 00:40:43,109 --> 00:40:46,237 as a gateway, to bring more talent through. 970 00:40:46,279 --> 00:40:48,531 Have you thought about that? Have you processed that? 971 00:40:48,573 --> 00:40:50,158 -Well, I think, I guess, 972 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,286 I didn't used to think about that that much, 973 00:40:53,328 --> 00:40:57,999 but it was so amazing when I was able to produce "Griselda" 974 00:40:58,041 --> 00:41:01,836 and be able to make those decisions, you know, 975 00:41:01,878 --> 00:41:03,880 how I wanted, who I wanted. 976 00:41:03,922 --> 00:41:06,716 It was special, because you feel like, oh. 977 00:41:06,758 --> 00:41:08,968 And I think for example, 978 00:41:09,010 --> 00:41:14,265 there were, most of the series is Latin American actors 979 00:41:14,307 --> 00:41:18,269 but there is, it's in English, and I know this is going to 980 00:41:18,311 --> 00:41:20,939 maybe change the life of these actors. 981 00:41:20,980 --> 00:41:23,692 -Absolutely. -And that's super exciting. 982 00:41:23,733 --> 00:41:29,030 One of my cousins is in the show, too, and she's amazing. 983 00:41:29,072 --> 00:41:30,865 -Good for you. -She did an amazing job. 984 00:41:30,907 --> 00:41:33,952 -I think that's the bigger side of winning, right? 985 00:41:33,993 --> 00:41:35,829 -Yes, helping other people, yeah. 986 00:41:35,870 --> 00:41:38,289 -Absolutely. 'Cause it starts off as us, right? 987 00:41:38,331 --> 00:41:41,126 Like we want the opportunity. We want the moment. 988 00:41:41,167 --> 00:41:43,294 We want the star. We want the light. 989 00:41:43,336 --> 00:41:46,631 And then after you get it, there's a moment, 990 00:41:46,673 --> 00:41:48,466 and I will say for some, not all, 991 00:41:48,508 --> 00:41:50,719 but for some, and I know I'm one of the people 992 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,722 that I'm speaking on behalf of, and obviously you are, as well, 993 00:41:53,763 --> 00:41:55,056 where you want other people to feel that. 994 00:41:55,098 --> 00:41:57,809 You want other people to have the moment 995 00:41:57,851 --> 00:41:59,811 or have the success or have the opportunity -- 996 00:41:59,853 --> 00:42:01,646 -And the more you give, the more you get. 997 00:42:01,688 --> 00:42:02,897 -Absolutely. -That is for sure. 998 00:42:02,939 --> 00:42:04,607 -Absolutely. Good for you. 999 00:42:04,649 --> 00:42:09,112 -Yeah. Have you bought your wife one of those cars that you like? 1000 00:42:09,154 --> 00:42:11,156 -I don't understand how we got here. 1001 00:42:11,197 --> 00:42:12,323 What just happened? -I'm just asking, 1002 00:42:12,365 --> 00:42:13,825 have you bought her one? -Yeah, no, 1003 00:42:13,867 --> 00:42:15,160 well, here's my question -- -A Corvette. 1004 00:42:15,201 --> 00:42:16,995 Or you have her like in a little -- 1005 00:42:17,037 --> 00:42:18,246 -Well, before we get there, 1006 00:42:18,288 --> 00:42:19,789 can I just ask you a question? -What? 1007 00:42:19,831 --> 00:42:21,332 -We were clearly talking about the show, 1008 00:42:21,374 --> 00:42:23,626 and we were talking about opportunities for others, 1009 00:42:23,668 --> 00:42:26,171 and somehow you were like, did you buy your wife that car? 1010 00:42:26,212 --> 00:42:28,798 -Well, 'cause you were talking about you give -- 1011 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,342 and I just suddenly thought, it was like, 1012 00:42:30,383 --> 00:42:32,052 does the wife have one of those cars? 1013 00:42:32,093 --> 00:42:35,347 -Okay, so first of all -- -Or you've got her a van? 1014 00:42:35,388 --> 00:42:36,806 -What? -Like -- 1015 00:42:36,848 --> 00:42:39,392 [ Laughter ] 1016 00:42:41,728 --> 00:42:43,229 While you're in the sexy car outside. 1017 00:42:43,271 --> 00:42:45,899 -No, that's not her thing. That's my -- 1018 00:42:45,940 --> 00:42:47,192 -Do you let her touch it? -No. 1019 00:42:47,233 --> 00:42:50,445 -Why not? -Because that's my stuff. 1020 00:42:50,487 --> 00:42:51,696 I collect cars. That's my hobby. 1021 00:42:51,738 --> 00:42:53,198 -So what does that mean? 1022 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,201 -I just told you what the fuck it means. It's mine. 1023 00:42:56,242 --> 00:42:59,245 I don't touch her stuff. Like she has stuff and -- 1024 00:42:59,287 --> 00:43:02,165 -Yeah, but why would you touch her earrings and her shoes? 1025 00:43:02,207 --> 00:43:04,209 That would be a bit weird. -Well, that's her stuff. 1026 00:43:04,250 --> 00:43:06,670 That's her stuff. -But her wanting to touch 1027 00:43:06,711 --> 00:43:09,047 your car is totally normal. What? 1028 00:43:09,089 --> 00:43:11,633 -Joe doesn't have stuff that's considered to be his? 1029 00:43:11,675 --> 00:43:12,884 -Yes. -Alright, are you allowed 1030 00:43:12,926 --> 00:43:14,219 to touch his stuff? -I touch it 1031 00:43:14,260 --> 00:43:17,430 when he's not looking. [ Laughter ] 1032 00:43:17,472 --> 00:43:20,141 -That's not -- That's not -- 1033 00:43:20,183 --> 00:43:24,396 Hold on. What the fuck is happening here today?! 1034 00:43:24,437 --> 00:43:26,106 Guys? 1035 00:43:26,147 --> 00:43:28,983 We do not have a laugh track! 1036 00:43:29,025 --> 00:43:30,318 Okay, what do you mean you touch -- 1037 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,362 Like Joe's stuff should be Joe's stuff. 1038 00:43:32,404 --> 00:43:33,738 -It is Joe's stuff. 1039 00:43:33,780 --> 00:43:35,824 -Well, don't touch his stuff when he's not looking. 1040 00:43:35,865 --> 00:43:37,409 -He doesn't even notice that I touch it. 1041 00:43:37,450 --> 00:43:38,827 -No. -It's not like I touch it, 1042 00:43:38,868 --> 00:43:40,286 and I put it in a disorganized way. 1043 00:43:40,328 --> 00:43:42,747 -You put it right back. -I put it back exactly. 1044 00:43:42,789 --> 00:43:44,165 -I don't understand what's happening. 1045 00:43:44,207 --> 00:43:45,792 I really don't understand what's happening. 1046 00:43:45,834 --> 00:43:48,712 Okay, my stuff is my stuff, and that's how it should stay. 1047 00:43:48,753 --> 00:43:51,256 You -- Stop. Guys, we're going to take a quick break 1048 00:43:51,297 --> 00:43:53,800 so she can understand why my stuff is my stuff. 1049 00:43:53,842 --> 00:43:56,845 We'll be right back with more "Hart to Heart" after this. 1050 00:44:11,359 --> 00:44:13,862 -Welcome back, guys. This is still "Hart to Heart." 1051 00:44:13,903 --> 00:44:16,072 We're still talking to Sofia. 1052 00:44:16,114 --> 00:44:18,908 So, Sofia, in our house we had an agreement, 1053 00:44:18,950 --> 00:44:20,326 and this is going to make you laugh. 1054 00:44:20,368 --> 00:44:21,870 And I want to know what your side of this is. 1055 00:44:21,911 --> 00:44:24,414 So, we had an agreement, and there were certain rooms 1056 00:44:24,456 --> 00:44:26,583 in the house that were supposed to be mine. 1057 00:44:26,624 --> 00:44:27,917 I lost every room. 1058 00:44:27,959 --> 00:44:31,296 Every room eventually got taken over by the kids 1059 00:44:31,338 --> 00:44:33,506 and/or my wife. I have nothing. 1060 00:44:33,548 --> 00:44:38,136 I asked for the garage to never be tampered with or touched. 1061 00:44:38,178 --> 00:44:41,431 So I made the garages like my fucking, my rooms, 1062 00:44:41,473 --> 00:44:43,516 and it's like a nice little trophy case -- 1063 00:44:43,558 --> 00:44:46,269 -Like a man cave. -Trophy case for the cars. 1064 00:44:46,311 --> 00:44:49,189 Just let the cars be in there. Don't touch them. 1065 00:44:49,230 --> 00:44:51,107 I cover them up, throw -- That's my space. 1066 00:44:51,149 --> 00:44:52,609 -But that's your thing, the cars. 1067 00:44:52,650 --> 00:44:54,652 Well, where else are you going to fucking keep the cars 1068 00:44:54,694 --> 00:44:56,738 but in the garage? Why are you complaining about it? 1069 00:44:56,780 --> 00:44:59,199 It's like what, you were going to put them in the bedroom? 1070 00:44:59,240 --> 00:45:01,117 -She took everything else from me -- 1071 00:45:01,159 --> 00:45:04,079 -And where were you going to put the cars but in the garage? 1072 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:05,622 -I don't fucking know, Sofia! 1073 00:45:05,663 --> 00:45:07,957 -So what are you complaining about? 1074 00:45:07,999 --> 00:45:11,628 What has she done wrong? 1075 00:45:11,670 --> 00:45:16,132 It's like, what other things she took away from you? 1076 00:45:16,174 --> 00:45:17,967 -Nothing, Sofia. -Are you going to have rims 1077 00:45:18,009 --> 00:45:19,552 as coffee tables? 1078 00:45:19,594 --> 00:45:22,055 What? 1079 00:45:22,097 --> 00:45:24,140 -I mean, this is how it happens, right here. 1080 00:45:24,182 --> 00:45:26,309 This is how it happens, in real time. 1081 00:45:26,351 --> 00:45:27,811 -You're making no sense. 1082 00:45:27,852 --> 00:45:29,270 But this is the thing. 1083 00:45:29,312 --> 00:45:32,399 My husband plays "Dungeons & Dragons." 1084 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:33,983 -Okay. -You know what that is? 1085 00:45:34,025 --> 00:45:35,485 -Yes. -It's a very complicated game. 1086 00:45:35,527 --> 00:45:37,904 -Okay, first of all, it's "Dungeons & Dragons." 1087 00:45:37,946 --> 00:45:39,364 It's not rocket science. 1088 00:45:39,406 --> 00:45:41,241 -It is kind of rocket science, I'm sorry. 1089 00:45:41,282 --> 00:45:42,867 -You don't even play it. He plays it. 1090 00:45:42,909 --> 00:45:44,369 -Exactly. I don't play it 1091 00:45:44,411 --> 00:45:46,830 because I know I don't have the capacity to do it. 1092 00:45:46,871 --> 00:45:48,998 I hear them. It's crazy. 1093 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,793 They play like for eight hours. It's super intense. 1094 00:45:51,835 --> 00:45:53,753 Like my husband is the Dungeon Master, 1095 00:45:53,795 --> 00:45:57,841 so he has to do a lot of work, 1096 00:45:57,882 --> 00:45:59,509 and it's amazing. 1097 00:45:59,551 --> 00:46:02,554 -I don't think you should be talking about this. Okay? 1098 00:46:02,595 --> 00:46:05,015 Joe don't want this out there. -No, he does. 1099 00:46:05,056 --> 00:46:08,059 -No, he don't want people knowing he's the Dungeon Master. 1100 00:46:08,101 --> 00:46:09,686 -Why not? It's super cool. 1101 00:46:09,728 --> 00:46:11,771 -No, it's not! It's not super cool. 1102 00:46:11,813 --> 00:46:13,356 -Oh, I'm going to invite you to my house, 1103 00:46:13,398 --> 00:46:14,357 and you're going to see. 1104 00:46:14,399 --> 00:46:16,109 -No, I don't want to see. 1105 00:46:16,151 --> 00:46:18,028 [ Laughter ] 1106 00:46:18,069 --> 00:46:19,696 I don't want to fucking see it. 1107 00:46:19,738 --> 00:46:22,407 -Listen, it's great. I love that he does "Dungeons & Dragons." 1108 00:46:22,449 --> 00:46:25,410 I mean, he could be doing "hoo-kurs" 1109 00:46:25,452 --> 00:46:26,786 and gambling in Vegas. 1110 00:46:26,828 --> 00:46:28,288 It's better. -Okay. First of all, it's -- 1111 00:46:28,329 --> 00:46:30,874 -It's called hookers, okay? 1112 00:46:30,915 --> 00:46:32,709 You just called it "hoo-kurs." 1113 00:46:32,751 --> 00:46:34,961 [ Laughs ] 1114 00:46:35,003 --> 00:46:36,338 I like that he has a thing. 1115 00:46:36,379 --> 00:46:37,547 I like that you know he has a thing. 1116 00:46:37,589 --> 00:46:40,008 -Exactly. -Every man needs a thing. 1117 00:46:40,050 --> 00:46:41,092 -Yeah. -We need a thing. 1118 00:46:41,134 --> 00:46:43,428 What's your thing? 1119 00:46:43,470 --> 00:46:46,056 -I have many things. -Give me one. 1120 00:46:46,097 --> 00:46:49,059 -I love handbags. I love decorating. 1121 00:46:49,100 --> 00:46:52,145 I love going to lunch with my girlfriends, you know. 1122 00:46:52,187 --> 00:46:54,105 -It's like your stuff. -Stuff, yeah. 1123 00:46:54,147 --> 00:46:55,148 -It's like just your stuff. 1124 00:46:55,190 --> 00:46:57,067 -Yeah -- No, I share it. 1125 00:46:57,108 --> 00:46:58,985 -With? -Him...? 1126 00:46:59,027 --> 00:47:00,904 -What? [ Both laugh ] 1127 00:47:00,945 --> 00:47:02,989 -No, that's your stuff! 1128 00:47:03,031 --> 00:47:05,283 That's your stuff! That's my point. 1129 00:47:05,325 --> 00:47:07,535 That's my car. Or my cars. That's all I want. 1130 00:47:07,577 --> 00:47:09,454 -Okay, I get that, but you're complaining 1131 00:47:09,496 --> 00:47:14,125 about something like absurd, that she took over the house, 1132 00:47:14,167 --> 00:47:16,795 like and didn't let you get the cars inside the house. 1133 00:47:16,836 --> 00:47:19,798 -Okay, does Joe have like a man cave and like a space? 1134 00:47:19,839 --> 00:47:21,091 -Yes. -Do you go in it? 1135 00:47:21,132 --> 00:47:22,258 -And I help him build it. I help him -- 1136 00:47:22,300 --> 00:47:23,677 Actually, you're not going to believe it, 1137 00:47:23,718 --> 00:47:25,804 but today we're moving to a new house. Today. 1138 00:47:25,845 --> 00:47:29,474 I should have canceled you. But I was -- 1139 00:47:29,516 --> 00:47:32,352 I was -- I'm in the middle of a move today. 1140 00:47:32,394 --> 00:47:34,104 I'm in the middle of a move. 1141 00:47:34,145 --> 00:47:36,564 And I'm here drinking wine with you, talking shit. 1142 00:47:36,606 --> 00:47:41,277 -Yeah. Well, I mean, because of our relationship, Sofia. 1143 00:47:41,319 --> 00:47:42,654 -Okay, it wasn't that good, 1144 00:47:42,696 --> 00:47:45,115 like to me leave in the middle of a move... 1145 00:47:45,156 --> 00:47:46,366 -Yeah. -...to come here. 1146 00:47:46,408 --> 00:47:49,119 -It fucking was, Sofia! 1147 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:50,412 That's why we're having such a good time 1148 00:47:50,453 --> 00:47:52,205 while the people are going to watch this 1149 00:47:52,247 --> 00:47:54,582 and be blown away at this rapport. 1150 00:47:54,624 --> 00:47:57,002 Congrats on the move, though. I love it. 1151 00:47:57,043 --> 00:47:58,378 -It's been horrific, but okay. 1152 00:47:58,420 --> 00:48:01,006 -Before we get to a point of wrapping up, alright, 1153 00:48:01,047 --> 00:48:05,969 I have to go to a place of like dope, right now. 1154 00:48:06,011 --> 00:48:10,807 Every show, every episode, the beauty of how I end 1155 00:48:10,849 --> 00:48:14,394 is like in a way where a person can just simply understand 1156 00:48:14,436 --> 00:48:18,148 like the great thing of what this does. 1157 00:48:18,189 --> 00:48:20,692 People have seen you. People are fans of you, 1158 00:48:20,734 --> 00:48:22,819 and they've heard you talk, but a lot of times, people 1159 00:48:22,861 --> 00:48:24,696 don't get to see you with your shoulders down. 1160 00:48:24,738 --> 00:48:26,865 They don't get to see you where you're comfortable 1161 00:48:26,906 --> 00:48:28,533 and you're relaxed, right? 1162 00:48:28,575 --> 00:48:31,286 Things are always done in the world of promotion, marketing. 1163 00:48:31,327 --> 00:48:33,163 There is nothing attached to this. 1164 00:48:33,204 --> 00:48:35,415 This is like some genuine fucking -- 1165 00:48:35,457 --> 00:48:36,458 -I don't know what you're talking about 1166 00:48:36,499 --> 00:48:38,293 because I am always like this. 1167 00:48:38,335 --> 00:48:39,878 -Okay. Well, you're not, 1168 00:48:39,919 --> 00:48:42,422 'cause you're more comfortable with me than anybody else. 1169 00:48:42,464 --> 00:48:44,090 -Okay. Well -- -Well, you're going 1170 00:48:44,132 --> 00:48:46,718 to fucking acknowledge that. -Okay, I'm going to acknowledge 1171 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,928 that you gave me two glasses of wine. Yeah, 1172 00:48:48,970 --> 00:48:50,722 that's why I'm more comfortable. But I'm usually like this. 1173 00:48:50,764 --> 00:48:52,432 -You're comfortable because you fucking love me, 1174 00:48:52,474 --> 00:48:54,684 and I love you back, and that's it. 1175 00:48:54,726 --> 00:48:57,270 And that's what we're going to stand on, alright? 1176 00:48:57,312 --> 00:48:59,397 -Okay. -God damn it, Sofia. 1177 00:48:59,439 --> 00:49:01,691 Jesus Christ. 1178 00:49:01,733 --> 00:49:05,570 What I do want to say, though -- I'm happy for you. 1179 00:49:05,612 --> 00:49:08,239 And I'm not happy because of the money, 1180 00:49:08,281 --> 00:49:10,033 I'm happy because of your happy. 1181 00:49:10,075 --> 00:49:13,286 I'm happy that you've come from where you've come from 1182 00:49:13,328 --> 00:49:14,788 and you figured it out. 1183 00:49:14,829 --> 00:49:19,709 You found a way to create new and give your now family 1184 00:49:19,751 --> 00:49:21,878 an opportunity for a different road. 1185 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,714 -But look at you, too. We've come far. 1186 00:49:24,756 --> 00:49:26,925 -Yes. -We're minorities. 1187 00:49:26,966 --> 00:49:29,135 -Yes. -We didn't have the chances 1188 00:49:29,177 --> 00:49:30,845 that everybody has. -Yes. 1189 00:49:30,887 --> 00:49:33,723 -It's like we are an example of you can do it if you want to. 1190 00:49:33,765 --> 00:49:36,101 I mean, even someone that sounds like me 1191 00:49:36,142 --> 00:49:37,894 or someone that looks like you, 1192 00:49:37,936 --> 00:49:39,688 we can make it, you know? 1193 00:49:39,729 --> 00:49:41,481 [ Laughter ] 1194 00:49:41,523 --> 00:49:42,941 We can make it. 1195 00:49:42,982 --> 00:49:47,153 We can make it if we work hard. If we work hard. 1196 00:49:47,195 --> 00:49:49,781 -Yeah. I feel like -- I feel like it was better on -- 1197 00:49:49,823 --> 00:49:52,742 I feel like you got the better of the ending. 1198 00:49:52,784 --> 00:49:56,079 I feel like your wrap-up was probably, 1199 00:49:56,121 --> 00:49:57,997 was just more in favor of you, but I get it. 1200 00:49:58,039 --> 00:50:00,500 I think I get the -- I think I get the point. 1201 00:50:00,542 --> 00:50:02,043 Ladies and gentlemen, if you want to know 1202 00:50:02,085 --> 00:50:03,795 why "Hart to Heart" is special, 1203 00:50:03,837 --> 00:50:05,588 it's because of moments like this. 1204 00:50:05,630 --> 00:50:07,924 It's because of what the wine and the conversation does, 1205 00:50:07,966 --> 00:50:12,262 more importantly, what the world of transparency, authenticity, 1206 00:50:12,303 --> 00:50:14,389 and just dope conversation does. 1207 00:50:14,431 --> 00:50:16,391 Sofia, I love you. -Thank you for having me. 1208 00:50:16,433 --> 00:50:17,642 I love you. -I appreciate you. 1209 00:50:17,684 --> 00:50:19,310 Ladies and gentlemen, Sofia Vergara. 1210 00:50:19,352 --> 00:50:21,938 This is "Hart to Heart." Thank you. 1211 00:50:21,980 --> 00:50:23,356 Oh, my God. 1212 00:50:23,398 --> 00:50:25,275 Oh, my fucking God. 1213 00:50:25,316 --> 00:50:28,153 ** 1214 00:50:28,194 --> 00:50:30,864 -That car outside is insane. 1215 00:50:30,905 --> 00:50:32,490 -When I tell you, Sofia -- -Let me touch it. 1216 00:50:32,532 --> 00:50:34,659 -No. [ Laughter ] 1217 00:50:34,701 --> 00:50:36,619 Guys, can I tell you? 1218 00:50:36,661 --> 00:50:38,121 Just, can we please let her know 1219 00:50:38,163 --> 00:50:40,707 how fucking great was that episode just now, guys?