1 00:00:14,180 --> 00:00:17,475 -My guest today is huge in every way possible -- 2 00:00:17,517 --> 00:00:20,145 Huge body, huge personality, and a huge career 3 00:00:20,186 --> 00:00:21,312 with the WWE. 4 00:00:21,354 --> 00:00:22,897 And guess what that translates into? 5 00:00:22,939 --> 00:00:24,607 A big box office career as well. 6 00:00:24,649 --> 00:00:27,569 Guys, he's doing it all -- comedy, drama, action. 7 00:00:27,610 --> 00:00:29,029 And who am I talking about? 8 00:00:29,070 --> 00:00:30,363 Well, you should know by now. 9 00:00:30,405 --> 00:00:33,033 None other than John Cena. 10 00:00:33,074 --> 00:00:35,952 Did you see that? Did you see what I did? 11 00:00:35,994 --> 00:00:37,328 -I -- I didn't see you for a second. 12 00:00:37,370 --> 00:00:38,663 You became invisible. It actually works, yeah. 13 00:00:38,705 --> 00:00:39,956 -Did you see me? You can't see me. 14 00:00:39,998 --> 00:00:41,458 -No, I didn't see that. I didn't see you. 15 00:00:41,499 --> 00:00:43,418 -Huh? You can't see me. Huh? 16 00:00:43,460 --> 00:00:46,671 Dude, thank you man. -No, no. Thank you, man. 17 00:00:46,713 --> 00:00:48,173 First of all, it's great to see you again. 18 00:00:48,214 --> 00:00:50,008 -Great to see you. -I love the format of the show. 19 00:00:50,050 --> 00:00:51,843 So I, you know, I want to tip back some wine, 20 00:00:51,885 --> 00:00:53,219 talk a little bit, have some fun. 21 00:00:53,261 --> 00:00:54,929 -Well, I'm not going to let you start talking 22 00:00:54,971 --> 00:00:56,765 without addressing how good you look, man. 23 00:00:56,806 --> 00:00:58,475 Clean up well, you do. 24 00:00:58,516 --> 00:00:59,851 You look like a star. 25 00:00:59,893 --> 00:01:01,061 You look like you belong where you are. 26 00:01:01,102 --> 00:01:02,312 -What does -- What does that mean? 27 00:01:02,354 --> 00:01:04,022 -When people say you look like a star? 28 00:01:04,064 --> 00:01:05,148 -Yeah, what does that mean? -It means you actually do 29 00:01:05,190 --> 00:01:06,441 look like a star. You know this. 30 00:01:06,483 --> 00:01:08,026 -Because these are my PJs. I slept in this. 31 00:01:08,068 --> 00:01:10,612 -Well, now I don't believe that. And if you do, 32 00:01:10,653 --> 00:01:12,238 then do I need to start doing the same thing? 33 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:13,907 Is that what we're doing right now? Is this what -- 34 00:01:13,948 --> 00:01:15,617 Is this what the stars are doing now? 35 00:01:15,658 --> 00:01:18,036 Uh, look, you said it. You said what the show's about, right? 36 00:01:18,078 --> 00:01:19,537 It's a comfortable format. -Yeah. 37 00:01:19,579 --> 00:01:20,622 -We sit, we talk. -Yeah. 38 00:01:20,663 --> 00:01:21,998 -But we talk over a glass of wine. 39 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,458 That's what makes the show special. Right? 40 00:01:23,500 --> 00:01:25,210 So with that being said, let me get my somm out here. 41 00:01:25,251 --> 00:01:26,920 -I know you got some caffeine in you. 42 00:01:26,961 --> 00:01:28,171 It's time to balance it out. 43 00:01:28,213 --> 00:01:29,714 It's time to go uppers and downers. 44 00:01:29,756 --> 00:01:31,132 -I don't have any caffeine in me. 45 00:01:31,174 --> 00:01:32,634 I don't what you're talking about. 46 00:01:32,676 --> 00:01:34,844 -It seems like you might be revving a little high. 47 00:01:34,886 --> 00:01:36,262 Let's slow it down. What do we got? 48 00:01:36,304 --> 00:01:38,056 -Mr. Hart, Mr. Cena. -Yeah. 49 00:01:38,098 --> 00:01:39,724 -Single-vineyard, exquisite Syrah from the Edna Valley, 50 00:01:39,766 --> 00:01:41,101 not too far up the road. 51 00:01:41,142 --> 00:01:43,103 SLO, the cool kids call it. -Not the SLO. 52 00:01:43,144 --> 00:01:46,564 San Luis Obispo with a wonderful Slide Hill Vineyard Syrah. 53 00:01:46,606 --> 00:01:47,774 I think you'll both love it. 54 00:01:47,816 --> 00:01:51,236 -Excellent. -An Obispo, huh? 55 00:01:51,277 --> 00:01:52,821 -A little bit of whole cluster in here, too. 56 00:01:52,862 --> 00:01:54,406 Wonderful texture. Balanced. 57 00:01:54,447 --> 00:01:56,658 -Nothing better than a little a whole cluster. 58 00:01:56,700 --> 00:01:58,368 -Absolutely. 59 00:01:58,410 --> 00:02:01,371 -How do you make your choice? -How do I make my choice? 60 00:02:01,413 --> 00:02:04,082 -No, no, no. He's got the skills in this department. 61 00:02:04,124 --> 00:02:06,501 How do you make your choice? Is it dependent on the guest? 62 00:02:06,543 --> 00:02:08,586 -Well, first off, it's always dependent on the guest. 63 00:02:08,628 --> 00:02:10,296 But Mr. Hart has a directive here. 64 00:02:10,338 --> 00:02:13,591 The wine has to be Black-owned, Black-made, Black-run. 65 00:02:13,633 --> 00:02:15,385 -Hm, okay. -Very, very few, 66 00:02:15,427 --> 00:02:18,221 but the producers that are out there, of color, are exquisite, 67 00:02:18,263 --> 00:02:20,890 so I craft the best wines for this show. 68 00:02:20,932 --> 00:02:22,684 This Syrah happens to be one of them. 69 00:02:22,726 --> 00:02:24,144 Less than 100 cases made. 70 00:02:24,185 --> 00:02:26,229 -Well, cheers to you for knowledge, Kevin. Thank you. 71 00:02:26,271 --> 00:02:27,439 -Cheers to you. -Appreciate you. 72 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:28,773 -Gents, enjoy. -Man. Hey. Hey. 73 00:02:28,815 --> 00:02:30,316 Let me tell you something. -Cheers. 74 00:02:30,358 --> 00:02:33,611 -Me and you, okay? Me and you, talking about a team. 75 00:02:33,653 --> 00:02:36,156 -Seems, yeah. -I may -- 76 00:02:36,197 --> 00:02:38,283 I may try out for that Somm thing. 77 00:02:38,324 --> 00:02:40,160 -You got it. -As you see, 78 00:02:40,201 --> 00:02:43,705 my knowledge is getting more in tune as we do more. Right? 79 00:02:43,747 --> 00:02:46,416 John, to you, man. -No, no. Cheers. 80 00:02:46,458 --> 00:02:48,126 Thanks for having me. 81 00:02:48,168 --> 00:02:50,378 So, less an interview, more of a discussion, right? 82 00:02:50,420 --> 00:02:51,963 -Yeah. What are you talking -- -What's off -- 83 00:02:52,005 --> 00:02:53,465 -There is no interview. -What's off limits? 84 00:02:53,506 --> 00:02:55,133 -Nothing's off limits. -Are you sure? 85 00:02:55,175 --> 00:02:57,302 Because we've talked before behind the camera, 86 00:02:57,344 --> 00:02:58,845 not too, much. 87 00:02:58,887 --> 00:03:01,348 I mean, you were kind enough to take, like, the one minute 88 00:03:01,389 --> 00:03:03,308 that you do have in between doing everything. 89 00:03:03,350 --> 00:03:06,895 Um, we had a few conversations, shared a few wonderful moments. 90 00:03:06,936 --> 00:03:08,271 -Nothing is off limits. -Are you sure? 91 00:03:08,313 --> 00:03:10,148 -Listen, this is not an interview, right? 92 00:03:10,190 --> 00:03:11,816 -I know, it's a discussion. -It's a discussion. 93 00:03:11,858 --> 00:03:14,986 What I was going to say earlier is that when I got a chance 94 00:03:15,028 --> 00:03:18,740 to talk to you when we worked together, dude, 95 00:03:18,782 --> 00:03:23,495 you are intelligent as hell, but you were such a -- 96 00:03:23,536 --> 00:03:26,498 you were such a, like, sponge for information. 97 00:03:26,539 --> 00:03:28,333 And our -- our conversation that we had, like, 98 00:03:28,375 --> 00:03:33,004 we were both giving so much information to one another. 99 00:03:33,046 --> 00:03:37,300 And I found that we -- we were more interested 100 00:03:37,342 --> 00:03:41,179 in each other's story than we probably thought we would be. 101 00:03:41,221 --> 00:03:43,181 -Well, thanks, man. I appreciate that. 102 00:03:43,223 --> 00:03:50,105 And likewise, you were extremely open and extremely gracious 103 00:03:50,146 --> 00:03:54,401 about kind of showing myself and whoever was around 104 00:03:54,442 --> 00:03:56,236 pages from your playbook. -Mm-hmm. 105 00:03:56,277 --> 00:04:01,074 -And not just your story, I mean your playbook operations now. 106 00:04:01,116 --> 00:04:02,492 -Yeah. -Where you are. You -- 107 00:04:02,534 --> 00:04:06,121 You are -- I think people understand this about you 108 00:04:06,162 --> 00:04:08,081 because you do document your life, 109 00:04:08,123 --> 00:04:10,041 and you share a whole lot. 110 00:04:10,083 --> 00:04:11,334 But there's no way, 111 00:04:11,376 --> 00:04:14,129 unless you're standing in your orbit, 112 00:04:14,170 --> 00:04:17,465 to understand exactly how hard you go. 113 00:04:17,507 --> 00:04:22,345 I was amazed at how hard go. -Thank you. Thank you, man. 114 00:04:22,387 --> 00:04:25,598 -You -- You are on another level. 115 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,308 -Well, let's start -- let's start there then. 116 00:04:27,350 --> 00:04:28,518 -Sure. 117 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,395 -Let's start in a place of hard work, right? 118 00:04:30,437 --> 00:04:33,148 Like, I don't know if everybody truly understands 119 00:04:33,189 --> 00:04:34,858 the machine of the WWE. 120 00:04:34,899 --> 00:04:39,612 And what blew me away the most was how committed you have to be 121 00:04:39,654 --> 00:04:42,907 to a schedule that never seems to die, right? 122 00:04:42,949 --> 00:04:46,870 Like, in the WWE, you are a part of almost, 123 00:04:46,911 --> 00:04:49,956 what I would call a 365, right? 124 00:04:49,998 --> 00:04:51,166 Like, you're part... -Sure. Sure. 125 00:04:51,207 --> 00:04:54,252 -...of a 365 work regimen. 126 00:04:54,294 --> 00:04:58,631 And in that 365 place and space of work, 127 00:04:58,673 --> 00:05:00,133 you're committing to the -- 128 00:05:00,175 --> 00:05:05,347 to the world of your progression 129 00:05:05,388 --> 00:05:08,266 as a wrestler, as a talent. 130 00:05:08,308 --> 00:05:13,146 And in -- in the orbit of WWE, 131 00:05:13,188 --> 00:05:15,774 all of the personnel that comes through, 132 00:05:15,815 --> 00:05:17,525 everybody that wants to touch, 133 00:05:17,567 --> 00:05:22,155 that wants to be the biggest, the best, or whatever, 134 00:05:22,197 --> 00:05:24,574 sometimes a lot of these things, you know, 135 00:05:24,616 --> 00:05:27,494 they don't pan out the way that some would want them to. 136 00:05:27,535 --> 00:05:30,663 Um, in your case, you know, you're talking about, 137 00:05:30,705 --> 00:05:31,831 how many years? 138 00:05:31,873 --> 00:05:33,458 You -- You have -- 139 00:05:33,500 --> 00:05:34,626 How many years do you have in there? 140 00:05:34,668 --> 00:05:36,753 -It's been a lot. I started in 2002. 141 00:05:36,795 --> 00:05:40,048 -And the beginning of it, what I found, like, 142 00:05:40,090 --> 00:05:45,261 to be crazy was you coming in on the, I guess you could say, 143 00:05:45,303 --> 00:05:50,141 the old generation, the old-school generation... 144 00:05:50,183 --> 00:05:52,018 -Yeah. -...of legends... 145 00:05:52,060 --> 00:05:54,229 -Yeah. -...Hall of Famers. 146 00:05:54,270 --> 00:05:56,147 You know, you kind of had to earn your stripes, 147 00:05:56,189 --> 00:05:58,066 for lack of a better word, right? 148 00:05:58,108 --> 00:06:00,026 Your comfort in that space, 149 00:06:00,068 --> 00:06:02,153 it wasn't immediate with those guys. 150 00:06:02,195 --> 00:06:05,907 -WWE, they run all the time. 151 00:06:05,949 --> 00:06:07,951 But I think that's kind of where we might have, 152 00:06:07,992 --> 00:06:09,577 and I'm thinking for you at this point, 153 00:06:09,619 --> 00:06:11,454 but I think that's were we might have found common ground. 154 00:06:11,496 --> 00:06:15,375 What -- What was the first time you hit the stages of stand-up? 155 00:06:15,417 --> 00:06:16,668 -First time I hit the stage? 156 00:06:16,710 --> 00:06:18,003 -What was the first time you hit the stage? 157 00:06:18,044 --> 00:06:19,838 -2000 and -- 158 00:06:19,879 --> 00:06:21,464 No, 1998. 159 00:06:21,506 --> 00:06:25,218 And that was in the space of amateur night 160 00:06:25,260 --> 00:06:28,013 and me just falling in love with amateur night 161 00:06:28,054 --> 00:06:29,389 and competitions. 162 00:06:29,431 --> 00:06:34,227 Small stage, but from '98 to '99, 163 00:06:34,269 --> 00:06:37,856 was where I was just performing on things, right? 164 00:06:37,897 --> 00:06:40,859 Like, whether it was a stage, whether it was a cabaret, 165 00:06:40,900 --> 00:06:44,612 whether it was a lounge, we had to create our environments. 166 00:06:44,654 --> 00:06:47,699 They weren't -- They weren't all set up for comedy. 167 00:06:47,741 --> 00:06:52,370 They weren't all, like, entertainment-like environments. 168 00:06:52,412 --> 00:06:54,539 -But it's a nonstop grind. -Yeah. Yeah. 169 00:06:54,581 --> 00:06:56,082 -And you're always on stage. -Yeah. 170 00:06:56,124 --> 00:06:58,460 -And it's a different city every night and you're hustling. 171 00:06:58,501 --> 00:07:01,546 I went through the same thing. -Yeah. 172 00:07:01,588 --> 00:07:03,214 -You know, it's the same thing. 173 00:07:03,256 --> 00:07:06,843 And the business has changed so much since I started. 174 00:07:06,885 --> 00:07:09,804 -For the better or the worse? -I think some -- 175 00:07:09,846 --> 00:07:11,473 I think a whole lot better. 176 00:07:11,514 --> 00:07:13,641 And I'm -- I'm just, again, I'm thinking for you, 177 00:07:13,683 --> 00:07:16,561 I bet you comedy has changed since '98... 178 00:07:16,603 --> 00:07:18,813 -Absolutely. Absolutely. -...until now. 179 00:07:18,855 --> 00:07:20,231 I bet you a lot of it's changed. 180 00:07:20,273 --> 00:07:21,691 -I mean, the times -- the times have changed, 181 00:07:21,733 --> 00:07:23,943 which in return have caused comedy to change. 182 00:07:23,985 --> 00:07:26,029 Right? So comedy has changed 183 00:07:26,071 --> 00:07:28,281 because we had no choice but to change. 184 00:07:28,323 --> 00:07:29,866 -I hear you there. I hear you there. 185 00:07:29,908 --> 00:07:35,580 -Now, in your side when you say it's changed drastically, 186 00:07:35,622 --> 00:07:37,374 I feel like it's grown, right? 187 00:07:37,415 --> 00:07:41,086 -And I think that's the biggest thing that's changed. 188 00:07:41,127 --> 00:07:43,421 -Okay. -It has grown exponentially. 189 00:07:43,463 --> 00:07:45,632 -Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. -Like, exponentially. 190 00:07:45,674 --> 00:07:51,429 To the point where, you know, I always preface the NBA 191 00:07:51,471 --> 00:07:53,306 and the ABA in the '70s... -Mm-hmm. 192 00:07:53,348 --> 00:07:56,184 -Major League Baseball in the late '70s and '80s, 193 00:07:56,226 --> 00:07:58,436 pro football in the '80s. 194 00:07:58,478 --> 00:08:02,565 Like, pro football now, it's an -- it's an operation. 195 00:08:02,607 --> 00:08:04,609 -Mm-hmm. -The NBA now is an operation. 196 00:08:04,651 --> 00:08:06,444 Major League Baseball's an operation. 197 00:08:06,486 --> 00:08:09,781 WWE's kind of followed the same trajectory 198 00:08:09,823 --> 00:08:14,452 where it is this massive, globally reaching 199 00:08:14,494 --> 00:08:17,789 entertainment juggernaut that can show up anywhere. 200 00:08:17,831 --> 00:08:19,416 -Mm-hmm. -I've been to -- 201 00:08:19,457 --> 00:08:22,377 You know, we've been to AT&T Stadium in Dallas, 202 00:08:22,419 --> 00:08:24,254 and I've performed in Afghanistan. 203 00:08:24,295 --> 00:08:26,131 -Yeah. -And everywhere in between. 204 00:08:26,172 --> 00:08:28,466 -Yeah. -And, uh, I think as -- 205 00:08:28,508 --> 00:08:30,802 as you have more success, 206 00:08:30,844 --> 00:08:33,430 and especially they cast a PG net, 207 00:08:33,471 --> 00:08:37,142 the program is PG, but it also changed from TV-14 to PG. 208 00:08:37,183 --> 00:08:38,435 -Mm-hmm. -See? 209 00:08:38,476 --> 00:08:40,395 And it's also a generational product. 210 00:08:40,437 --> 00:08:42,105 Like, I'll talk to older folks and they'll be like, 211 00:08:42,147 --> 00:08:44,274 "Oh, I grew up with Hulk Hogan and Ricky Steamboat 212 00:08:44,315 --> 00:08:46,359 and Ric Flair and 'Macho Man' Randy Savage." 213 00:08:46,401 --> 00:08:48,028 And then there are people that'll be like, 214 00:08:48,069 --> 00:08:50,280 "Ah, the Attitude era was the best with Rock 215 00:08:50,321 --> 00:08:53,450 and Steve Austin and DX and The Undertaker." 216 00:08:53,491 --> 00:08:55,452 And there are folks that grew up watching me, 217 00:08:55,493 --> 00:08:56,661 and then there's the current generation 218 00:08:56,703 --> 00:08:58,538 that watches the current superstars and -- 219 00:08:58,580 --> 00:09:00,999 and, you know, comments and critiques 220 00:09:01,041 --> 00:09:03,251 and appreciates that product. 221 00:09:03,293 --> 00:09:07,005 So if it's not your generation, 222 00:09:07,047 --> 00:09:10,175 you always romanticize about the performers, 223 00:09:10,216 --> 00:09:11,634 the comics before. -Yeah. 224 00:09:11,676 --> 00:09:13,762 -I liked Richard Pryor. I liked George Carlin. 225 00:09:13,803 --> 00:09:15,638 -Yeah. -I dig these comics 226 00:09:15,680 --> 00:09:17,474 instead of what's -- what's up there now. 227 00:09:17,515 --> 00:09:19,184 I don't -- I don't understand. 228 00:09:19,225 --> 00:09:21,311 The same can be said for styles of music. 229 00:09:21,353 --> 00:09:23,688 You know, I -- I love hip-hop music, 230 00:09:23,730 --> 00:09:27,150 but I correlate to, like, '90s boom-bap style music. 231 00:09:27,192 --> 00:09:30,904 And I just don't understand a lot of the other stuff. 232 00:09:30,945 --> 00:09:32,489 But it doesn't mean it's not bad, 233 00:09:32,530 --> 00:09:34,574 it's just that I have, like, kind of my -- 234 00:09:34,616 --> 00:09:37,869 my sweet spot, the stuff that I romanticize about. 235 00:09:37,911 --> 00:09:41,539 And as the company grows, it's trying to -- 236 00:09:41,581 --> 00:09:43,416 it's trying to gain more of a following. 237 00:09:43,458 --> 00:09:44,876 It's trying to gain more of a fan base, 238 00:09:44,918 --> 00:09:46,961 a general fan base, so you have to -- 239 00:09:47,003 --> 00:09:48,713 you have to act accordingly. 240 00:09:48,755 --> 00:09:53,426 The -- The great news is, I feel, the talent, 241 00:09:53,468 --> 00:09:55,095 the performers are better taken care of. 242 00:09:55,136 --> 00:09:57,055 They're more professional. They're more understanding. 243 00:09:57,097 --> 00:10:00,475 They're not -- not as wasteful. They're a lot smarter. 244 00:10:00,517 --> 00:10:02,102 -Yeah. -They're a lot healthier. 245 00:10:02,143 --> 00:10:04,145 -I mean, that's from seeing the mistakes of others, right? 246 00:10:04,187 --> 00:10:05,939 -It's -- It's wisdom. 247 00:10:05,980 --> 00:10:08,233 -John, I don't want to stop you, but I have to. 248 00:10:08,274 --> 00:10:09,859 Guys, I want to take a quick break. 249 00:10:09,901 --> 00:10:11,736 Please don't go nowhere. We've got John Cena, 250 00:10:11,778 --> 00:10:14,531 and he's talking about his road, his journey. 251 00:10:14,572 --> 00:10:16,157 You don't want to miss it. Stick around. 252 00:10:16,199 --> 00:10:18,660 We've got more "Hart to Heart" when we get back after this. 253 00:10:34,050 --> 00:10:36,136 -Alright, well, I've got a refill, which means that 254 00:10:36,177 --> 00:10:38,304 the conversation is going to continue to flow. 255 00:10:38,346 --> 00:10:42,767 John, so dude, right now, you sit a place of success, right? 256 00:10:42,809 --> 00:10:45,145 You've been in the war though. -What -- What does that mean? 257 00:10:45,186 --> 00:10:46,980 -Well, when I say you sit in a place of success, 258 00:10:47,022 --> 00:10:52,819 meaning that the WWE that you entered 259 00:10:52,861 --> 00:10:56,239 is not the WWE that you sit in now. 260 00:10:56,281 --> 00:10:59,159 How was wrestling, like -- How was it the go-to? 261 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,911 Like, was it -- was that -- was that the journey all along? 262 00:11:01,953 --> 00:11:03,830 Was it... -No. Not even close. 263 00:11:03,872 --> 00:11:05,415 -..."This is what I want to get to. This is what I'm gonna do"? 264 00:11:05,457 --> 00:11:08,877 -My -- My whole existence is, uh, an accident. 265 00:11:08,918 --> 00:11:10,628 -What is that? What the fuck does that mean? 266 00:11:10,670 --> 00:11:12,339 What? -Well, it's -- 267 00:11:12,380 --> 00:11:16,009 My whole existence is based on a series of fortunate events 268 00:11:16,051 --> 00:11:17,761 that kind of lined up with each other. 269 00:11:17,802 --> 00:11:19,387 -Okay. -I did not know 270 00:11:19,429 --> 00:11:21,431 that wrestling was even a career option. 271 00:11:21,473 --> 00:11:23,099 -Mm-hmm. -I watched it as a young man. 272 00:11:23,141 --> 00:11:26,019 Kind of fell out of it as an adolescent, a teenager, 273 00:11:26,061 --> 00:11:28,355 because you're like, "Oh, you've got to study hard 274 00:11:28,396 --> 00:11:32,734 and maybe play sports or go to get a real job or whatever." 275 00:11:32,776 --> 00:11:35,070 Went to college, got a degree, tried to apply my degree 276 00:11:35,111 --> 00:11:36,696 out here in California. 277 00:11:36,738 --> 00:11:40,200 Now, I didn't move out to LA to -- to pursue entertainment. 278 00:11:40,241 --> 00:11:41,534 I moved out to apply my degree 279 00:11:41,576 --> 00:11:43,620 in Exercise Physiology and Kinesiologies, 280 00:11:43,661 --> 00:11:45,580 so all the... -Goddamn! 281 00:11:45,622 --> 00:11:48,583 -It's basically just a degree in working out. 282 00:11:48,625 --> 00:11:50,460 So I like-- -Kinesiology? 283 00:11:50,502 --> 00:11:51,711 -Yeah. -Kinesiology? 284 00:11:51,753 --> 00:11:53,338 -The study of movement of the body. 285 00:11:53,380 --> 00:11:55,882 So I -- I, uh, I was passionate about that at the time. 286 00:11:55,924 --> 00:11:57,967 I started working out at 13, 287 00:11:58,009 --> 00:11:59,844 so it's kind of something I knew. 288 00:11:59,886 --> 00:12:02,055 And, like, I didn't -- never felt like I was going to class. 289 00:12:02,097 --> 00:12:06,559 Came out here to try to apply my degree and really failed. 290 00:12:06,601 --> 00:12:08,770 But, uh, my dad, in a brilliant -- 291 00:12:08,812 --> 00:12:10,563 -Why do you say failed? -Because I -- 292 00:12:10,605 --> 00:12:13,650 I couldn't get, um, any sort of validation 293 00:12:13,692 --> 00:12:15,568 for that piece of paper that I paid for. 294 00:12:15,610 --> 00:12:17,779 -Wow. -That 4-year certificate 295 00:12:17,821 --> 00:12:19,989 from Springfield College saying, 296 00:12:20,031 --> 00:12:22,075 "We think you know what you're talking about." 297 00:12:22,117 --> 00:12:24,327 -Mm-hmm. -And then I go out and try to, 298 00:12:24,369 --> 00:12:25,620 "Well, I got this." 299 00:12:25,662 --> 00:12:27,205 It was like, "I don't give a shit." 300 00:12:27,247 --> 00:12:29,833 -What do you think -- What do you think that was? 301 00:12:29,874 --> 00:12:31,960 Like, when you say you couldn't get a job, 302 00:12:32,002 --> 00:12:33,920 I mean, having a degree, having a diploma -- 303 00:12:33,962 --> 00:12:36,506 -I don't know. I don't know. Uh, may-- 304 00:12:36,548 --> 00:12:38,800 You know, knowledge is one thing. 305 00:12:38,842 --> 00:12:39,926 -Mm-hmm. -Life experience, 306 00:12:39,968 --> 00:12:41,803 wisdom is another. -Mm-hmm. 307 00:12:41,845 --> 00:12:43,930 -Maybe I just didn't -- Maybe I rubbed the people the wrong way. 308 00:12:43,972 --> 00:12:47,684 Maybe I didn't know how to carry myself in interviews. 309 00:12:47,726 --> 00:12:49,686 Maybe I didn't search the right places. 310 00:12:49,728 --> 00:12:52,105 This is, uh, 1999, 311 00:12:52,147 --> 00:12:54,482 so we're not as interconnected as we all are now. 312 00:12:54,524 --> 00:12:56,901 -Mm-hmm. -Um, but I'd failed 313 00:12:56,943 --> 00:13:00,447 to the point of like, man, I'm, like, living in my car. 314 00:13:00,488 --> 00:13:02,365 -What? -I love it out here, 315 00:13:02,407 --> 00:13:05,118 but I think I've got to -- I've got to go back. 316 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,038 I took the California Highway Patrol exam, failed. 317 00:13:08,079 --> 00:13:10,248 So I was going to be a cop -- failed. 318 00:13:10,290 --> 00:13:12,584 -Goddamn it, John. This is getting sad. 319 00:13:12,625 --> 00:13:15,003 -Every avenue of fitness... -Yeah. 320 00:13:15,045 --> 00:13:17,005 -Failed, closed door, closed door. 321 00:13:17,047 --> 00:13:19,966 I remember bouncing at a place called Sharkeez 322 00:13:20,008 --> 00:13:21,176 in Hermosa Beach. 323 00:13:21,217 --> 00:13:23,636 And there was a pizza place, Zeppy's Pizza, 324 00:13:23,678 --> 00:13:25,013 right next to Sharkeez. 325 00:13:25,055 --> 00:13:26,973 They had a deal where -- They had a challenge 326 00:13:27,015 --> 00:13:29,309 if you could eat their whole pizza, you got it for free. 327 00:13:29,351 --> 00:13:31,478 I used to eat there every night, a whole pizza, 328 00:13:31,519 --> 00:13:33,438 so I didn't have to pay because I didn't have money 329 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:34,606 to pay the guy. 330 00:13:34,647 --> 00:13:36,149 So I had to, like, Joey Chestnut... 331 00:13:36,191 --> 00:13:38,068 -Hold on, John, Goddamn. 332 00:13:38,109 --> 00:13:39,736 I'm-a need another one just to -- 333 00:13:39,778 --> 00:13:41,696 just to deal with the weight of this discussion. 334 00:13:41,738 --> 00:13:43,198 Wait a second John. -But it -- 335 00:13:43,239 --> 00:13:45,742 You know, through -- through uncomfortable situations, 336 00:13:45,784 --> 00:13:47,035 we find out who we are. 337 00:13:47,077 --> 00:13:48,661 And I really had to take a look at, like, 338 00:13:48,703 --> 00:13:51,289 "Okay, what do I feel I have to offer and..." 339 00:13:51,331 --> 00:13:53,041 -Well -- Well, just let me -- let me just make sure 340 00:13:53,083 --> 00:13:54,876 I'm grasping, okay, correctly. -Yeah, sure. 341 00:13:54,918 --> 00:13:57,003 -My guy. Okay. -I'll take a little bit. 342 00:13:57,045 --> 00:13:58,380 Looks like I'm out of it. I'm going to need some, too. 343 00:13:58,421 --> 00:14:00,507 -Yeah, no, this is -- this is good, by the way. 344 00:14:00,548 --> 00:14:03,760 And this is what I mean about our conversations, right? 345 00:14:03,802 --> 00:14:05,512 And this is what is was on set, 346 00:14:05,553 --> 00:14:07,055 but on set, we didn't go here. 347 00:14:07,097 --> 00:14:10,975 So, um, homeless? -Uh, well, 348 00:14:11,017 --> 00:14:12,686 a Lincoln Continental's a big car. 349 00:14:12,727 --> 00:14:16,022 I lived in the back of a '91 Lincoln Continental for awhile. 350 00:14:16,064 --> 00:14:17,524 -How long? -But it was a -- 351 00:14:17,565 --> 00:14:20,568 Uh, 3 or 4 months, and then I moved into a garage. 352 00:14:20,610 --> 00:14:22,070 -That's fucked up. -So the garage 353 00:14:22,112 --> 00:14:24,280 I actually stayed into for, that was, like, 6 months. 354 00:14:24,322 --> 00:14:26,282 But it was -- And here's the thing, like, 355 00:14:26,324 --> 00:14:32,122 often you hear stories of hard times. 356 00:14:32,163 --> 00:14:34,791 -Mm-hmm. -I'm very fortunate for my story 357 00:14:34,833 --> 00:14:37,002 because it was my choice to have hard times. 358 00:14:37,043 --> 00:14:40,005 -Define that. -Uh, my father always said, 359 00:14:40,046 --> 00:14:41,965 you know, "You're my son. I love you. 360 00:14:42,007 --> 00:14:43,550 You're -- You're always welcome back home." 361 00:14:43,591 --> 00:14:46,803 I had -- If I could get to West Newbury, Massachusetts, 362 00:14:46,845 --> 00:14:49,347 I would be fed, I would have a roof over my head, 363 00:14:49,389 --> 00:14:50,849 I would be able to regroup. 364 00:14:50,890 --> 00:14:52,225 I chose to stay out. 365 00:14:52,267 --> 00:14:55,145 -You said your father, uh, not your mother. 366 00:14:55,186 --> 00:14:56,438 What -- Is there -- 367 00:14:56,479 --> 00:14:58,606 -Oh, well, uh, I think at that point my mom -- 368 00:14:58,648 --> 00:15:01,234 I've got four brothers. -Okay. 369 00:15:01,276 --> 00:15:03,987 -I think my mom was just happy we were all in one piece. 370 00:15:04,029 --> 00:15:06,197 -Okay. Okay. -You know, like, it's, uh, 371 00:15:06,239 --> 00:15:09,325 traditional -- My -- My parents are no longer together 372 00:15:09,367 --> 00:15:11,036 but as they raised us, 373 00:15:11,077 --> 00:15:13,038 it was kind of the traditional father is the spokesperson. 374 00:15:13,079 --> 00:15:14,497 Mom is just... -Four brothers, 375 00:15:14,539 --> 00:15:16,249 same mom, same dad? -...crossing her fingers -- 376 00:15:16,291 --> 00:15:18,918 Yeah. Hoping that we don't kill each other, you know? 377 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,088 -And they are all aware of your hard times at this point 378 00:15:22,130 --> 00:15:25,383 or this is your battle? -No, because, again, my choice. 379 00:15:25,425 --> 00:15:27,010 -Wow. -Like, it was -- 380 00:15:27,052 --> 00:15:31,056 And I -- I look back on those days not with any regret. 381 00:15:31,097 --> 00:15:33,224 I -- I loved it. I was, uh -- 382 00:15:33,266 --> 00:15:36,102 I had a front desk job at Gold's Gym Venice at the time. 383 00:15:36,144 --> 00:15:38,188 I had my degree in Kinesiology. 384 00:15:38,229 --> 00:15:42,233 I'm in the center of, like, body-building fitness industry. 385 00:15:42,275 --> 00:15:43,902 All the equipment manufacturers are there. 386 00:15:43,943 --> 00:15:45,153 I've got pretty much 387 00:15:45,195 --> 00:15:46,780 the best gym in the world at my fingertips. 388 00:15:46,821 --> 00:15:48,782 I would show up early for work, 389 00:15:48,823 --> 00:15:50,575 go to the locker room take a shower, 390 00:15:50,617 --> 00:15:51,743 work my shift... -Wow. 391 00:15:51,785 --> 00:15:53,286 -Work out, take another shower, 392 00:15:53,328 --> 00:15:55,663 and go sleep in my car. -Are you seeing at this time, 393 00:15:55,705 --> 00:15:58,291 I mean, you're talking about '99, right? 394 00:15:58,333 --> 00:16:01,211 -Yeah. -'99, even going into 2000. 395 00:16:01,252 --> 00:16:04,172 -Yeah. -Gold's Gym has always been, 396 00:16:04,214 --> 00:16:07,175 especially in Venice, it's always been a highlight of -- 397 00:16:07,217 --> 00:16:11,346 of your action stars of tomorrow or the future of -- 398 00:16:11,388 --> 00:16:13,348 -WWE superstars. -Yeah, everybody. Your -- 399 00:16:13,390 --> 00:16:15,016 I was going to say, action stars, your WWE. 400 00:16:15,058 --> 00:16:16,976 -I got my picture with The Rock. 401 00:16:17,018 --> 00:16:18,603 -There? -Yeah. 402 00:16:18,645 --> 00:16:20,105 -Holy shit. -Me in my Gold's Gym 403 00:16:20,146 --> 00:16:21,398 Nutrition Club store polo. 404 00:16:21,439 --> 00:16:23,149 -Is it when he had that dumbass hair? 405 00:16:23,191 --> 00:16:25,110 The -- The stupid ass hairdo? 406 00:16:25,151 --> 00:16:26,277 -I -- I thought it was quite nice. 407 00:16:26,319 --> 00:16:27,946 -When he had that dumbass hairdo. 408 00:16:27,987 --> 00:16:29,322 -I think if you look at our picture together -- 409 00:16:29,364 --> 00:16:31,116 -When he looked like a fucking idiot. 410 00:16:31,157 --> 00:16:33,368 -I remember myself having a blond sort of golf tee flat top. 411 00:16:33,410 --> 00:16:34,577 -I'm not talking about you. 412 00:16:34,619 --> 00:16:36,246 I'm talking about The Rock early on. 413 00:16:36,287 --> 00:16:38,123 -So I'm just saying I can't -- I can't really throw stones... 414 00:16:38,164 --> 00:16:39,833 -He had that piece. -...because I was in 415 00:16:39,874 --> 00:16:41,167 a papier-mâché house at that -- 416 00:16:41,209 --> 00:16:42,669 -Well, he had that piece that hung down. 417 00:16:42,711 --> 00:16:44,045 -You know? -That stupid-ass piece. 418 00:16:44,087 --> 00:16:45,839 That dick piece. -I -- I think you have a -- 419 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,215 -Right on his fucking forehead. 420 00:16:47,257 --> 00:16:48,800 -You got anything else you want to unload? 421 00:16:48,842 --> 00:16:50,385 It feels like you're holding on to something. 422 00:16:50,427 --> 00:16:52,178 -Yeah, I'm just telling you I remember. I know the per-- 423 00:16:52,220 --> 00:16:53,930 I know the guy that you're talking about at that time. 424 00:16:53,972 --> 00:16:55,181 -Okay. -I've seen the pictures. 425 00:16:55,223 --> 00:16:56,683 -Alright. -Now you don't have to say it. 426 00:16:56,725 --> 00:16:57,976 But you can look at me... -I didn't say it. 427 00:16:58,018 --> 00:16:59,227 It's your words. -You can look at me, 428 00:16:59,269 --> 00:17:00,812 and if you blink twice -- -It's your fight. 429 00:17:00,854 --> 00:17:02,022 -If you look at me and blink twice. 430 00:17:02,063 --> 00:17:03,189 He looked like a dick. -I'm just -- 431 00:17:03,231 --> 00:17:04,816 I'm remembering my hairdo choice. 432 00:17:04,858 --> 00:17:06,026 -You blinked three times. That's a double dick. 433 00:17:06,067 --> 00:17:08,153 Ha! We got him, John. 434 00:17:08,194 --> 00:17:10,071 I'm going to find the picture. 435 00:17:10,113 --> 00:17:12,240 Okay. Guys, we're going to take a quick break. 436 00:17:12,282 --> 00:17:14,909 We'll be right back with more "Hart to Heart" after this. 437 00:17:29,591 --> 00:17:32,510 -And we're back. We're still here with John Cena. 438 00:17:32,552 --> 00:17:36,264 And oh, my God, uh, the gems that are being dropped. 439 00:17:36,306 --> 00:17:38,767 So, John, you're in Venice. You're at Gold's Gym. 440 00:17:38,808 --> 00:17:40,018 These people are coming in and out. 441 00:17:40,060 --> 00:17:41,394 You're seeing these people, right? 442 00:17:41,436 --> 00:17:45,315 Um, although, hard times you're in, is this -- 443 00:17:45,357 --> 00:17:49,277 is this amplifying the idea of your future? 444 00:17:49,319 --> 00:17:51,654 Where did the idea of wrestling come from? 445 00:17:51,696 --> 00:17:54,282 When did that start? -So when I began to be, 446 00:17:54,324 --> 00:17:55,867 like, "Well, what do I have to offer?" 447 00:17:55,909 --> 00:17:57,285 -Mm-hmm. -"I believe I'm disciplined. 448 00:17:57,327 --> 00:17:59,120 I work on my strength and fitness. 449 00:17:59,162 --> 00:18:02,207 I take care of myself. I'll join the Marines." 450 00:18:02,248 --> 00:18:04,292 And Camp Pendleton's down in San Diego. 451 00:18:04,334 --> 00:18:07,879 I'm, like, "Man, I'll just go down and join. Like, I'll -- 452 00:18:07,921 --> 00:18:09,422 They'll probably take me." 453 00:18:09,464 --> 00:18:12,133 -By the way, do you know how dedicated 454 00:18:12,175 --> 00:18:15,345 to fitness you have to be to be homeless and fit? Goddamn. 455 00:18:15,387 --> 00:18:17,138 -But like I said, once again, it was -- 456 00:18:17,180 --> 00:18:18,598 -That is a -- -I wasn't -- 457 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,308 I wasn't, like, thrown out of anywhere. I was -- 458 00:18:20,350 --> 00:18:23,061 You've got to understand I was choosing to do this. 459 00:18:23,103 --> 00:18:25,188 -Yeah, I know. But you're still living in a garage, 460 00:18:25,230 --> 00:18:27,399 and you're like, "Ah, let me get my workout in." 461 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,193 That's tough. -No, to me it was -- 462 00:18:30,235 --> 00:18:32,570 It was like clarity. -Shit. 463 00:18:32,612 --> 00:18:36,324 -That's -- That's my -- That's kind of like my church. 464 00:18:36,366 --> 00:18:38,159 -Your mental, that's your mental. 465 00:18:38,201 --> 00:18:39,828 -Yeah, man. That's the place to go to lighten my backpack. 466 00:18:39,869 --> 00:18:41,371 -Okay. -Always has been. Uh... 467 00:18:41,413 --> 00:18:44,541 -So the Marines. -So I'm about to go to enlist, 468 00:18:44,582 --> 00:18:46,960 and a buddy of mine -- Like, that was '99. 469 00:18:47,002 --> 00:18:48,461 -Mm-hmm. -And so, like, WWE, 470 00:18:48,503 --> 00:18:52,007 WWF, WCW head -- like, going head to head. 471 00:18:52,048 --> 00:18:53,925 Like, they're doing massive ratings. 472 00:18:53,967 --> 00:18:55,844 Everybody's watching sports entertainment. 473 00:18:55,885 --> 00:18:57,178 -Mm-hmm. 474 00:18:57,220 --> 00:18:59,097 -And us in Gold's Gym were no different. 475 00:18:59,139 --> 00:19:00,515 We always had it on. We were always talking about it. 476 00:19:00,557 --> 00:19:02,517 But literally the weekend I'm about to go down, 477 00:19:02,559 --> 00:19:04,060 a buddy of mine says, 478 00:19:04,102 --> 00:19:06,855 "Yo, you know we train to be wrestlers over in Orange County. 479 00:19:06,896 --> 00:19:08,189 You ever thought about going down?" 480 00:19:08,231 --> 00:19:09,774 I was like, "Motherfucker, there's a -- 481 00:19:09,816 --> 00:19:12,777 What?! There's a school? We can do this?" 482 00:19:12,819 --> 00:19:14,529 Yes, of course. 483 00:19:14,571 --> 00:19:16,031 -"I was about to go to the Marines." 484 00:19:16,072 --> 00:19:17,699 -Literally. -"I was going to go --" 485 00:19:17,741 --> 00:19:19,993 -I was like -- I was like, "Yo, I'll go with you this weekend. 486 00:19:20,035 --> 00:19:21,494 I'll see what it's about." 487 00:19:21,536 --> 00:19:24,414 We went to a place called LA Boxing in Orange County. 488 00:19:24,456 --> 00:19:26,708 It was a one story, like, glass house, 489 00:19:26,750 --> 00:19:28,626 sweat shop gym. 490 00:19:28,668 --> 00:19:30,211 I remember pulling up 491 00:19:30,253 --> 00:19:32,422 and seeing the ring through the window. 492 00:19:32,464 --> 00:19:36,509 And being like, "Yo, I'll do whatever it takes to get -- 493 00:19:36,551 --> 00:19:38,636 to get in there as long as I can." 494 00:19:38,678 --> 00:19:40,096 -I mean... -So it wasn't -- 495 00:19:40,138 --> 00:19:41,806 It wasn't like a, um... 496 00:19:41,848 --> 00:19:44,559 When I saw it and I was like, "This is what I'm going to do," 497 00:19:44,601 --> 00:19:47,437 It wasn't like I'm going to be The Rock. 498 00:19:47,479 --> 00:19:50,398 It was like, "I'm going to work my job during the week, 499 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,942 so I can work flea markets on Saturday and Sunday 500 00:19:52,984 --> 00:19:55,236 because I fucking love this." -Yeah. 501 00:19:55,278 --> 00:19:57,655 This was your light bulb. It was your light bulb. 502 00:19:57,697 --> 00:20:00,075 -And as soon as I -- As soon as I got in there, 503 00:20:00,116 --> 00:20:01,451 it was amateur nights. 504 00:20:01,493 --> 00:20:04,329 It was working at male -- It was like wherever. 505 00:20:04,371 --> 00:20:05,747 "Hey, we've got a show in the middle of the street." 506 00:20:05,789 --> 00:20:07,082 -Yeah. -"I'm there, no problem." 507 00:20:07,123 --> 00:20:08,416 "I don't even think we have a show." 508 00:20:08,458 --> 00:20:10,043 "I'm there, no problem." -It doesn't matter. 509 00:20:10,085 --> 00:20:14,172 When the light bulb goes off, your immediate -- 510 00:20:14,214 --> 00:20:19,761 your immediate ability to turn on your work switch 511 00:20:19,803 --> 00:20:21,638 is like nothing else. 512 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:26,142 -Because you talk to anybody it's like entrepreneurs are -- 513 00:20:26,184 --> 00:20:28,561 It's kind of a running philosophy -- 514 00:20:28,603 --> 00:20:30,397 "If you love what you do, you never work a day 515 00:20:30,438 --> 00:20:31,981 in your life." -Mm-hmm. 516 00:20:32,023 --> 00:20:34,109 -And I don't -- -Say that again, John. 517 00:20:34,150 --> 00:20:37,195 -Well, the philosophy or the mantra 518 00:20:37,237 --> 00:20:38,446 is "If you love what you do, 519 00:20:38,488 --> 00:20:39,948 you never work a day in your life." 520 00:20:39,989 --> 00:20:41,074 I disagree with that. 521 00:20:41,116 --> 00:20:43,368 I think that every person, 522 00:20:43,410 --> 00:20:45,578 even, like, anyone out here, 523 00:20:45,620 --> 00:20:48,623 anyone hiding in the oak cellar you have behind... 524 00:20:48,665 --> 00:20:50,125 -They're in the back working. -...behind the barrels 525 00:20:50,166 --> 00:20:51,626 or anything... -They're back there. 526 00:20:51,668 --> 00:20:53,461 -...everybody you meet is going through a struggle 527 00:20:53,503 --> 00:20:55,338 that we know nothing about. -Mm-hmm. 528 00:20:55,380 --> 00:20:58,133 -So there -- there is hard work at every turn for everyone. 529 00:20:58,174 --> 00:21:01,094 -Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. -But if you love it, 530 00:21:01,136 --> 00:21:04,222 and it's wonderful conversations I've had with -- 531 00:21:04,264 --> 00:21:05,890 with people close to me and people that I love, 532 00:21:05,932 --> 00:21:09,602 If you love it, it makes the hard times more memorable, 533 00:21:09,644 --> 00:21:10,937 more valuable. 534 00:21:10,979 --> 00:21:13,648 You can gain from them. 535 00:21:13,690 --> 00:21:15,483 You can learn from your mistakes. 536 00:21:15,525 --> 00:21:19,070 If you don't love it, it -- it is hard work. 537 00:21:19,112 --> 00:21:20,739 It sucks. 538 00:21:20,780 --> 00:21:22,991 You know, I tell a lot of young people that are in the WWE, 539 00:21:23,033 --> 00:21:26,369 "If you're in this to make money, 540 00:21:26,411 --> 00:21:27,787 go somewhere else." -Mm-hmm. 541 00:21:27,829 --> 00:21:29,539 -"This is a hard living to make money at." 542 00:21:29,581 --> 00:21:31,750 If you love it, sky's the limit. 543 00:21:31,791 --> 00:21:35,378 You stop counting the money and just go -- go out and do. 544 00:21:35,420 --> 00:21:37,172 And the money will show up. -Mm-hmm. 545 00:21:37,213 --> 00:21:40,425 -But I saw it, and I was like, 546 00:21:40,467 --> 00:21:43,386 "I'm going to exist out here 547 00:21:43,428 --> 00:21:45,764 and do this as a long as I can as a weekend hobby," 548 00:21:45,805 --> 00:21:47,557 and never thought it would be anything. 549 00:21:47,599 --> 00:21:49,642 So, like, it happened by accident. 550 00:21:49,684 --> 00:21:51,519 I'm about to go join the military, 551 00:21:51,561 --> 00:21:54,189 and a buddy is like, "Hey, man, we've been doing this forever. 552 00:21:54,230 --> 00:21:56,232 Where have you been?" 553 00:21:56,274 --> 00:21:59,778 Let's do it. -I relate to the accident. 554 00:21:59,819 --> 00:22:03,031 Because I didn't know that 555 00:22:03,073 --> 00:22:05,658 the comedy club was around the corner. 556 00:22:05,700 --> 00:22:08,119 I didn't know that the amateur nights existed. 557 00:22:08,161 --> 00:22:11,623 It was a recommendation of a friend. 558 00:22:11,664 --> 00:22:14,751 -Yeah. -And the discovery of the thing 559 00:22:14,793 --> 00:22:18,338 that you end up finding some of the most passion for 560 00:22:18,380 --> 00:22:20,215 sometimes is an accident, right? 561 00:22:20,256 --> 00:22:22,884 And I think people can definitely relate 562 00:22:22,926 --> 00:22:24,177 to what you just said. 563 00:22:24,219 --> 00:22:25,512 I mean, as you said it, I'm -- 564 00:22:25,553 --> 00:22:27,389 As you see, I'm engulfed. I'm listening. 565 00:22:27,430 --> 00:22:30,433 You said you met The Rock. -Mm-hmm. 566 00:22:30,475 --> 00:22:33,228 -You also said he looked like a dickhead. 567 00:22:33,269 --> 00:22:35,605 You said... -I -- You know, that's, um... 568 00:22:35,647 --> 00:22:37,941 I don't know. I think you're bending some things. 569 00:22:37,982 --> 00:22:39,401 -I'm not sure. -Yeah. 570 00:22:39,442 --> 00:22:42,529 -We can look at it in the edit. I remember -- 571 00:22:42,570 --> 00:22:44,572 I think I remember you said he was a dickhead. 572 00:22:44,614 --> 00:22:46,574 Um, either way, let's just throw that out. 573 00:22:46,616 --> 00:22:48,535 That's neither here nor there, okay? 574 00:22:48,576 --> 00:22:51,996 The point that I'm about to make is there was a connection. 575 00:22:52,038 --> 00:22:53,998 "Wow, I saw him here." 576 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,794 In that world that you were in, who were some of the, like, 577 00:22:57,836 --> 00:23:00,588 the person to person contacts early on 578 00:23:00,630 --> 00:23:03,758 that were a representation of the high level in -- 579 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:04,634 in this space, right? 580 00:23:04,676 --> 00:23:06,302 Did you -- Did you have any -- 581 00:23:06,344 --> 00:23:07,804 Did you have any, like, moments where it was like, 582 00:23:07,846 --> 00:23:09,305 "Oh, shit, that's... 583 00:23:09,347 --> 00:23:11,516 Oh, fuck, that's -- Right there is..." 584 00:23:11,558 --> 00:23:13,101 -Sure, right now with Kevin Hart. 585 00:23:13,143 --> 00:23:15,770 -Well, I don't -- I don't wrestle 586 00:23:15,812 --> 00:23:18,356 so I'm saying in the WWE job... -No, but I -- 587 00:23:18,398 --> 00:23:20,775 I can have those moments all of the time, like... 588 00:23:20,817 --> 00:23:22,527 -Okay, John. I understand that, but I'm saying -- 589 00:23:22,569 --> 00:23:23,945 I'm asking you about that time. -So -- 590 00:23:23,987 --> 00:23:28,199 So anyone who was doing what I loved as a hobby. 591 00:23:28,241 --> 00:23:31,119 -Yes. Yes. Who, like in other words -- 592 00:23:31,161 --> 00:23:32,495 -And making -- No, the -- Anyone. 593 00:23:32,537 --> 00:23:33,747 -You -- You now said, "I'm doing wrestling." 594 00:23:33,788 --> 00:23:35,040 -Yes. -"That's what I want to do." 595 00:23:35,081 --> 00:23:37,417 -Yes, and my answer to it is 596 00:23:37,459 --> 00:23:40,170 anyone who was doing what I love... 597 00:23:40,211 --> 00:23:42,130 -Mm-hmm. -...and calling it their work. 598 00:23:42,172 --> 00:23:43,423 -Ah. -Like to me... 599 00:23:43,465 --> 00:23:44,674 -I got you. -...they were cheating. 600 00:23:44,716 --> 00:23:46,217 -I got you. -They had it figured out. 601 00:23:46,259 --> 00:23:47,677 -Like, they -- You know, "The joke's on them, 602 00:23:47,719 --> 00:23:49,304 I do this for free." -They cracked -- 603 00:23:49,346 --> 00:23:50,472 They cracked the code. -They cracked the code. 604 00:23:50,513 --> 00:23:52,098 -Yeah. Mm-hmm. -So you could be, 605 00:23:52,140 --> 00:23:53,725 what we call in the business, you could be an op-- 606 00:23:53,767 --> 00:23:55,643 opening act, opening match guy. -Mm-hmm. 607 00:23:55,685 --> 00:23:57,562 -You could be an intermission guy. 608 00:23:57,604 --> 00:23:59,647 You could be the main event. It doesn't matter what you do, 609 00:23:59,689 --> 00:24:02,692 if you -- like, if you're getting paid to do 610 00:24:02,734 --> 00:24:04,861 what I'm going to do for free... -Mm-hmm. 611 00:24:04,903 --> 00:24:08,323 You did it. -You did it. You figured it out. 612 00:24:08,365 --> 00:24:10,325 -Uh, guys, do me a favor. Stick around. 613 00:24:10,367 --> 00:24:13,244 We've got more "Hart to Heart" when we come back after this. 614 00:24:27,842 --> 00:24:29,219 -Alright, well, I got a a refill, 615 00:24:29,260 --> 00:24:30,428 which means that the conversation is going 616 00:24:30,470 --> 00:24:32,013 to continue to flow. 617 00:24:32,055 --> 00:24:36,434 Uh, John, so dude, my next question to you is a doozy. 618 00:24:36,476 --> 00:24:39,938 You've endured the world of hardship, 619 00:24:39,979 --> 00:24:41,147 and you welcomed it. 620 00:24:41,189 --> 00:24:42,524 You didn't bitch and complain. 621 00:24:42,565 --> 00:24:43,900 Like you said, you strapped your boots up. 622 00:24:43,942 --> 00:24:45,652 It is what it is. I'm going to figure it out. 623 00:24:45,694 --> 00:24:46,903 -Again, I chose it though. -I know, that's what I said. 624 00:24:46,945 --> 00:24:48,697 You -- You endured it, like, you said, 625 00:24:48,738 --> 00:24:50,907 "Alright, this is what it is. I'm not bitching about it. 626 00:24:50,949 --> 00:24:52,826 I'm not complaining about it." -The good outweighed the bad. 627 00:24:52,867 --> 00:24:55,870 -"I'm going to make this -- I'm going to make it make sense. 628 00:24:55,912 --> 00:24:57,372 I'm going to figure it out." -Yeah. 629 00:24:57,414 --> 00:24:59,416 -Upon figuring it out, 630 00:24:59,457 --> 00:25:01,751 what's the conversation with Mom, Dad, 631 00:25:01,793 --> 00:25:03,003 and the brothers? 632 00:25:03,044 --> 00:25:06,631 -Uh, so, my dad is a life-long wrestling fan. 633 00:25:06,673 --> 00:25:08,550 -Really? -And I remember... 634 00:25:08,591 --> 00:25:10,343 -Are you really close to your dad? 635 00:25:10,385 --> 00:25:12,262 -Not as -- Not as much as I should be. 636 00:25:12,303 --> 00:25:14,097 -Okay. -Not as much as I should be. 637 00:25:14,139 --> 00:25:16,891 Um, and you? -We weren't -- 638 00:25:16,933 --> 00:25:20,937 We weren't close, but we were -- We were okay. 639 00:25:20,979 --> 00:25:24,941 I love my dad, but we weren't, like, close-close. Right? 640 00:25:24,983 --> 00:25:28,611 We were okay, but my dad was in and out. 641 00:25:28,653 --> 00:25:30,405 And that distance is probably 642 00:25:30,447 --> 00:25:33,450 the reason for not being close-close. 643 00:25:33,491 --> 00:25:37,495 Um, but his trials and tribulations 644 00:25:37,537 --> 00:25:39,622 ultimately became lessons to me 645 00:25:39,664 --> 00:25:42,292 and my reasons for not doing certain things 646 00:25:42,334 --> 00:25:44,502 came from the bird's-eye view 647 00:25:44,544 --> 00:25:46,463 as to what was right and what was wrong. 648 00:25:46,504 --> 00:25:48,631 -I think this is why our conversations -- 649 00:25:48,673 --> 00:25:52,260 We -- We run very parallel paths. 650 00:25:52,302 --> 00:25:53,887 -Okay. -And I don't -- 651 00:25:53,928 --> 00:25:55,680 I don't know the circumstances of what's your relationship 652 00:25:55,722 --> 00:25:57,932 with your dad -- -My dad was a crackhead. 653 00:25:57,974 --> 00:26:00,310 -Mine was not. But when you -- 654 00:26:00,352 --> 00:26:01,644 When you describe your relat-- 655 00:26:01,686 --> 00:26:02,687 -I thought you said they were similar. 656 00:26:02,729 --> 00:26:04,522 I just threw myself out there. 657 00:26:04,564 --> 00:26:06,983 I threw myself out there based off of you saying 658 00:26:07,025 --> 00:26:08,902 we're on similar paths thinking you were going to say, 659 00:26:08,943 --> 00:26:10,070 "Mine's, too." 660 00:26:10,111 --> 00:26:11,571 And now one of us look like a dickhead, 661 00:26:11,613 --> 00:26:13,448 and one of us don't. -No. No. 662 00:26:13,490 --> 00:26:15,241 -No? Well, it's kind of -- 663 00:26:15,283 --> 00:26:16,868 kind of how I took it. -Okay. 664 00:26:16,910 --> 00:26:18,578 -Maybe I'll go back and take that out in edit. 665 00:26:18,620 --> 00:26:20,455 -First -- First of all, I'm sorry about that. 666 00:26:20,497 --> 00:26:21,498 -Yeah? Well, are you? -Sorry. Sorry to -- 667 00:26:21,539 --> 00:26:22,707 -Are you? Because you set me up. 668 00:26:22,749 --> 00:26:24,626 You fucking set me up good, John. 669 00:26:24,668 --> 00:26:26,461 You sat there, with your beady eyes, 670 00:26:26,503 --> 00:26:27,879 you looked me right in mine. 671 00:26:27,921 --> 00:26:30,548 You said, "I think we run very similar paths." 672 00:26:30,590 --> 00:26:31,841 And I said, "Alright, here it comes." 673 00:26:31,883 --> 00:26:33,051 -Yeah. -"He's a fucking crackhead." 674 00:26:33,093 --> 00:26:34,719 And you go, "Well, that's tough." 675 00:26:34,761 --> 00:26:36,262 -I didn't -- I didn't say exact. I didn't say exact. 676 00:26:36,304 --> 00:26:37,847 I said very similar. -You said -- 677 00:26:37,889 --> 00:26:40,684 Your exact words after I said it was, "That's tough." 678 00:26:40,725 --> 00:26:43,645 -Mine -- My dad was not a crackhead. 679 00:26:43,687 --> 00:26:45,855 -Okay. -But when you described 680 00:26:45,897 --> 00:26:47,524 the relationship you had with your father, 681 00:26:47,565 --> 00:26:48,942 I have a very similar relationship with my dad. 682 00:26:48,983 --> 00:26:53,863 -Okay. Okay. -The in and out and, you know, 683 00:26:53,905 --> 00:26:58,660 not -- not ideal in -- in my mind but a lot that -- 684 00:26:58,702 --> 00:27:00,829 a lot of that's my fault. -Okay. 685 00:27:00,870 --> 00:27:02,038 -You know, a lot of that rests on me. 686 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,957 -Okay. -Um, 687 00:27:03,998 --> 00:27:08,378 but what I will say is he was ecstatic. 688 00:27:08,420 --> 00:27:11,589 Like, I don't know how much he cared 689 00:27:11,631 --> 00:27:13,258 when I did graduate college. -Mm-hmm. 690 00:27:13,299 --> 00:27:16,011 -I don't know how much he cared about accolades I had 691 00:27:16,052 --> 00:27:20,807 before I was hired by the WWE. -Mm-hmm. 692 00:27:20,849 --> 00:27:25,562 -My first contract for the WWE was $12,000 a year. 693 00:27:25,603 --> 00:27:27,564 I quit my job the day I was signed. 694 00:27:27,605 --> 00:27:29,399 -What year? -2000. 695 00:27:29,441 --> 00:27:30,734 -Wow. Okay. 696 00:27:30,775 --> 00:27:33,862 -So I think my rent was 1,000 bucks a month. 697 00:27:33,903 --> 00:27:36,573 So, like, all my money is now rent. 698 00:27:36,614 --> 00:27:38,074 -Yeah. -12,000 bucks a year, 699 00:27:38,116 --> 00:27:40,076 quit my job, like... -By the way, you're in debt. 700 00:27:40,118 --> 00:27:41,369 You have to pay taxes. -Yeah, exactly. 701 00:27:41,411 --> 00:27:42,746 -Yeah. -Yeah, exactly. 702 00:27:42,787 --> 00:27:45,331 Uh, but when I told my mom, she's just like, 703 00:27:45,373 --> 00:27:47,250 "I hope you're okay." 704 00:27:47,292 --> 00:27:49,753 Um, my brothers, it's a very -- 705 00:27:49,794 --> 00:27:51,963 I grew up in a small town in New England. 706 00:27:52,005 --> 00:27:55,175 It's a very, uh... 707 00:27:55,216 --> 00:27:58,094 It's a very -- like, you -- you have an edge. 708 00:27:58,136 --> 00:28:00,013 You don't talk about anything except sports. 709 00:28:00,055 --> 00:28:02,682 Like, if -- if you're really hurting inside, 710 00:28:02,724 --> 00:28:04,559 it's, "Yeah, fucking Red Sox, huh?" 711 00:28:04,601 --> 00:28:06,227 You know, and that look says everything. 712 00:28:06,269 --> 00:28:07,729 -Mm-hmm. -And that's it. 713 00:28:07,771 --> 00:28:09,606 And that's -- that's, like, that's the end of it. 714 00:28:09,647 --> 00:28:11,900 -Mm-hmm. -But they also won't let you 715 00:28:11,941 --> 00:28:13,777 grow too big for your britches. 716 00:28:13,818 --> 00:28:15,695 And I love my brothers, and I love my family for -- 717 00:28:15,737 --> 00:28:18,823 for desperately latching onto my feet 718 00:28:18,865 --> 00:28:20,950 and stapling them to the floor. -Okay. 719 00:28:20,992 --> 00:28:22,369 -When -- When I wanted, you know, 720 00:28:22,410 --> 00:28:25,246 if I wanted to think that I was looking at life 721 00:28:25,288 --> 00:28:27,791 from a different perspective, they always kept me level 722 00:28:27,832 --> 00:28:29,709 and looking at people eye-to-eye, 723 00:28:29,751 --> 00:28:31,378 and I love them for that. 724 00:28:31,419 --> 00:28:32,671 Uh, but they didn't give a shit. 725 00:28:32,712 --> 00:28:36,466 -Okay. -My dad thought I was like -- 726 00:28:36,508 --> 00:28:39,761 It -- It -- I could have told him any other position, 727 00:28:39,803 --> 00:28:41,471 he'd been like, "Yeah, whatever." 728 00:28:41,513 --> 00:28:43,139 "Dad, I just got a job with the WWE." 729 00:28:43,181 --> 00:28:44,599 "Oh, my son!" 730 00:28:44,641 --> 00:28:47,560 Like, the one time he was like, "Yeah, this is unreal. 731 00:28:47,602 --> 00:28:49,062 You're gonna do -- It's gonna be great. 732 00:28:49,104 --> 00:28:50,814 I can't believe it." And he's -- 733 00:28:50,855 --> 00:28:52,649 Still, to this day, he's extremely proud of that. 734 00:28:52,691 --> 00:28:54,526 -Well, you're talking about validation, 735 00:28:54,567 --> 00:28:55,944 and I want to pause there. 736 00:28:55,985 --> 00:28:57,487 This is an important place 737 00:28:57,529 --> 00:28:59,572 that we should, uh, that we should spend some time. 738 00:28:59,614 --> 00:29:02,450 But I can't spend time here if I don't pay bills there. 739 00:29:02,492 --> 00:29:03,910 Do me a favor, guys. Stick around. 740 00:29:03,952 --> 00:29:05,745 We've got more "Hart to Heart" when we come back. 741 00:29:20,802 --> 00:29:23,304 -We're back. I'm still here with John Cena. 742 00:29:23,346 --> 00:29:26,224 And we left -- we left talking about validation. 743 00:29:26,266 --> 00:29:29,352 John, that's such a good -- It's such a good place. 744 00:29:29,394 --> 00:29:31,896 It's a good place for us to get into more. Right? 745 00:29:31,938 --> 00:29:33,273 -Yeah, sure. -Like, when you're talking 746 00:29:33,314 --> 00:29:35,150 about validation -- I don't need anybody else's. 747 00:29:35,191 --> 00:29:38,028 I got to a place where I found calm, comfort in myself. 748 00:29:38,069 --> 00:29:39,696 I wanted it from my dad. I didn't get it. 749 00:29:39,738 --> 00:29:42,782 But I got to a place where I said, "I can exist without it." 750 00:29:42,824 --> 00:29:44,909 So early on, you cracked the code of, 751 00:29:44,951 --> 00:29:47,328 "I'm not bothered with or without. 752 00:29:47,370 --> 00:29:49,831 I'm more focused on the thing that I have to do 753 00:29:49,873 --> 00:29:51,249 that I'm signing up to do." 754 00:29:51,291 --> 00:29:53,418 You understand what I'm saying? -I -- I do. I do. 755 00:29:53,460 --> 00:29:57,255 Um, do you remember the first thing I said to you when we met? 756 00:29:57,297 --> 00:30:00,592 -Uh, "Kevin, you are a handsome man." 757 00:30:00,633 --> 00:30:02,927 I said, "Thank you, John." -You did. 758 00:30:02,969 --> 00:30:04,721 Do you remember the second thing? 759 00:30:04,763 --> 00:30:06,973 Aside from what you thought I said to you? 760 00:30:07,015 --> 00:30:10,018 -When you told me that, I said, 761 00:30:10,060 --> 00:30:12,771 "I was waiting for you to say that." Right? 762 00:30:12,812 --> 00:30:18,777 -I -- I saw you as you got off a plane. 763 00:30:18,818 --> 00:30:22,947 You were on a business call of some sort. 764 00:30:22,989 --> 00:30:25,325 You were getting wired to film a television show. 765 00:30:25,367 --> 00:30:27,035 -Oh, I was doing -- I was doing a whole bunch. 766 00:30:27,077 --> 00:30:28,286 Yeah. -You were -- 767 00:30:28,328 --> 00:30:29,829 You were doing 18 things at once. 768 00:30:29,871 --> 00:30:31,998 -Things at one time. Okay, yeah. 769 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,292 -And this is my first real -- 770 00:30:34,334 --> 00:30:36,836 This is my first trip in your orbit. 771 00:30:36,878 --> 00:30:40,131 -Mm-hmm. -You hang up. You get wired. 772 00:30:40,173 --> 00:30:43,134 Like, you do, like, a once over the script in your mind 773 00:30:43,176 --> 00:30:44,678 because it's in there somewhere. 774 00:30:44,719 --> 00:30:47,305 And I, like, I can see it, too, kind of. 775 00:30:47,347 --> 00:30:49,099 And I literally asked you, "Why do you do this?" 776 00:30:49,140 --> 00:30:51,976 -Yeah. Yeah. -Why -- 777 00:30:52,018 --> 00:30:53,311 -The fir-- The first -- That was, like, your first thing 778 00:30:53,353 --> 00:30:54,813 that you said. -Yeah. "Hi, I'm John." 779 00:30:54,854 --> 00:30:56,523 -Yeah. -"Why are you doing this?" 780 00:30:56,564 --> 00:30:58,024 -Yeah. Yeah. -Do you -- 781 00:30:58,066 --> 00:30:59,818 Do you remember your answer? Do you want to -- 782 00:30:59,859 --> 00:31:01,069 -No. But I remember, in my mind, I was like, 783 00:31:01,111 --> 00:31:02,696 "What the fuck is your problem?" That's -- 784 00:31:02,737 --> 00:31:04,072 I remember that. Because I was like... 785 00:31:04,114 --> 00:31:05,740 -Yeah. -"Hey, man..." 786 00:31:05,782 --> 00:31:07,367 -"I asked you to be here, motherfucker." 787 00:31:07,409 --> 00:31:09,160 -Yeah, I was like, "Hey, man, what's going on with you?!" 788 00:31:09,202 --> 00:31:11,705 But you know, you're too big. I can't come at you crazy. 789 00:31:11,746 --> 00:31:12,831 -Why -- -You'd bop me in the head. 790 00:31:12,872 --> 00:31:13,957 -Why -- -I remember that. 791 00:31:13,998 --> 00:31:15,583 I swear I remember that. 792 00:31:15,625 --> 00:31:18,253 -Why do you go as hard as you do? 793 00:31:18,294 --> 00:31:21,381 -As I told you then, 794 00:31:21,423 --> 00:31:23,508 there's a significant amount of joy 795 00:31:23,550 --> 00:31:29,014 that I find in not just the work 796 00:31:29,055 --> 00:31:32,726 but in the idea of working towards. 797 00:31:32,767 --> 00:31:35,270 I -- I find joy in having a reason 798 00:31:35,311 --> 00:31:36,980 to put my feet on the ground in the morning 799 00:31:37,022 --> 00:31:39,983 and having a reason to occupy my mind. 800 00:31:40,025 --> 00:31:42,193 I think that's the best thing ever. 801 00:31:42,235 --> 00:31:44,237 If I go and I say, "I've made enough. 802 00:31:44,279 --> 00:31:46,531 I've done enough. It's time to relax," 803 00:31:46,573 --> 00:31:48,033 that's great for me, 804 00:31:48,074 --> 00:31:52,704 but what have I really done to -- 805 00:31:52,746 --> 00:31:56,958 to put a real, like, stamp on my want 806 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,128 and change for the culture or for the narrative 807 00:32:00,170 --> 00:32:02,881 of how we feel the culture is perceived 808 00:32:02,922 --> 00:32:04,382 or the opportunities are given? 809 00:32:04,424 --> 00:32:06,217 -I'll also take it one step further, Kevin. 810 00:32:06,259 --> 00:32:08,720 There's not a lot of folks as, um... 811 00:32:08,762 --> 00:32:12,349 You know, there are -- there are many paths to immediate -- 812 00:32:12,390 --> 00:32:14,684 some -- some immediate success out there, now. 813 00:32:14,726 --> 00:32:17,062 I think more than ever before. -Mm-hmm. 814 00:32:17,103 --> 00:32:20,690 -There may be some people who come into some -- 815 00:32:20,732 --> 00:32:22,442 some financial success, 816 00:32:22,484 --> 00:32:25,278 some success where they can make decisions, 817 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,280 that maybe don't have your perspective. 818 00:32:27,322 --> 00:32:29,908 -Mm-hmm. -And I'm saying that I -- 819 00:32:29,949 --> 00:32:33,244 I heard Jay-Z sit here, someone who I admire, 820 00:32:33,286 --> 00:32:35,288 and have a through-line similar to your through-line, 821 00:32:35,330 --> 00:32:38,958 someone who I admire, and maybe people at home, 822 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,836 who necessarily, they might have climbed that hill. 823 00:32:41,878 --> 00:32:43,421 They might have experienced some success 824 00:32:43,463 --> 00:32:46,758 and want to go out and do something nice for themselves 825 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,010 or continue to make decisions based on 826 00:32:49,052 --> 00:32:51,262 just their small bubble. -Mm-hmm. 827 00:32:51,304 --> 00:32:54,766 -Don't -- don't sell the nuggets you give away short. 828 00:32:54,808 --> 00:32:56,434 That's what I was blown away about. 829 00:32:56,476 --> 00:32:58,978 I -- I got to spend three days with you, just three. 830 00:32:59,020 --> 00:33:00,772 -Amazing three days, by the way. -And, dude, you -- 831 00:33:00,814 --> 00:33:02,107 you set up a learning tree 832 00:33:02,148 --> 00:33:05,026 and you were just, like, throwing -- 833 00:33:05,068 --> 00:33:06,778 just throwing spirals down it. 834 00:33:06,820 --> 00:33:08,780 Like, just -- just, you were on fire. 835 00:33:08,822 --> 00:33:11,116 It's the first time I'd heard anyone 836 00:33:11,157 --> 00:33:14,369 talk about themselves as a vehicle. 837 00:33:14,411 --> 00:33:18,039 Like, I -- You said nothing's off limits. 838 00:33:18,081 --> 00:33:21,209 I saw you short-sell yourself to further your company. 839 00:33:21,251 --> 00:33:22,293 -Mm-hmm. -Like, I saw that. 840 00:33:22,335 --> 00:33:24,295 -Mm-hmm. -And I looked around, 841 00:33:24,337 --> 00:33:27,298 and we were all like, "What the fuck? 842 00:33:27,340 --> 00:33:28,299 Who does..." 843 00:33:28,341 --> 00:33:30,468 No. No. It's like you had some -- 844 00:33:30,510 --> 00:33:32,262 It's like I was playing a grand master 845 00:33:32,303 --> 00:33:34,180 and I just got checkmated in four moves. 846 00:33:34,222 --> 00:33:35,807 And you were like, "No, this is how you do it 847 00:33:35,849 --> 00:33:37,559 because this and this feeds this. 848 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,812 And I'm -- I need to be the catalyst to feed the thing 849 00:33:40,854 --> 00:33:42,397 because if we feed the thing, man, 850 00:33:42,439 --> 00:33:44,733 I've got, like, 400 people on staff, everybody's good, 851 00:33:44,774 --> 00:33:45,984 and maybe they learn something. 852 00:33:46,026 --> 00:33:47,652 And I want them to go out and do more." 853 00:33:47,694 --> 00:33:49,195 It was a -- 854 00:33:49,237 --> 00:33:52,157 It was a level in perspective that I hadn't seen. 855 00:33:52,198 --> 00:33:53,658 -Here. I want to tell you something, 856 00:33:53,700 --> 00:33:57,954 and it's so simple, but it comes off so profound 857 00:33:57,996 --> 00:34:01,041 because nobody else says it. Right? 858 00:34:01,082 --> 00:34:06,087 The biggest businesses are the biggest businesses 859 00:34:06,129 --> 00:34:08,298 not because they're the smartest 860 00:34:08,340 --> 00:34:12,260 but just because they keep the information. 861 00:34:13,595 --> 00:34:16,181 And there's an assumption 862 00:34:16,222 --> 00:34:20,310 that you can't ask about the information. 863 00:34:20,352 --> 00:34:22,020 Let's just say -- Let's just say in general, 864 00:34:22,062 --> 00:34:23,938 in business in general. The confidence of going, 865 00:34:23,980 --> 00:34:26,024 "Hey, man, how did you start this shit?" 866 00:34:26,066 --> 00:34:30,445 Right? Of being someone that is on par 867 00:34:30,487 --> 00:34:34,032 in the same space doing the same thing, 868 00:34:34,074 --> 00:34:35,617 you'd be surprised at how many people go, 869 00:34:35,658 --> 00:34:38,495 "Man, dude, let me tell you something." 870 00:34:38,536 --> 00:34:42,624 So many people are so happy to tell you about what they built, 871 00:34:42,665 --> 00:34:44,209 what they did. 872 00:34:44,250 --> 00:34:47,337 So many people have been waiting to offload this information. 873 00:34:47,379 --> 00:34:50,256 I love fucking cars. The craziest thing about cars... 874 00:34:50,298 --> 00:34:51,883 -Dude, I was just gonna ask you about cars. 875 00:34:51,925 --> 00:34:55,053 -...is so -- Here's the craziest thing about the cars, John. 876 00:34:55,095 --> 00:34:56,888 We go to these little things, 877 00:34:56,930 --> 00:35:00,183 and everybody drives their cars. 878 00:35:00,225 --> 00:35:04,145 But what I look at are the old men that have these cars. 879 00:35:04,187 --> 00:35:05,397 And they have a lawn chair, 880 00:35:05,438 --> 00:35:07,148 and they sit in front of their cars. 881 00:35:07,190 --> 00:35:09,901 And they have a book, and the book is -- 882 00:35:09,943 --> 00:35:12,570 every page shows something else that was done to the car. 883 00:35:12,612 --> 00:35:16,908 They sit there in hopes that somebody says, 884 00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:18,868 "What'd you do to this car?" 885 00:35:18,910 --> 00:35:20,412 -"Yo, man, is this yours?" 886 00:35:20,453 --> 00:35:22,080 -"What'd you say? 887 00:35:22,122 --> 00:35:23,581 You said is this mine? 888 00:35:23,623 --> 00:35:25,000 Well, let me tell you something about this car." 889 00:35:25,041 --> 00:35:26,501 -"What year is this one?" 890 00:35:26,543 --> 00:35:28,586 -"Oh, that's a funny thing. You think it's a '66." 891 00:35:28,628 --> 00:35:30,296 They -- They -- By the way, you're -- 892 00:35:30,338 --> 00:35:32,090 you're there for 45 minutes, stuck, 893 00:35:32,132 --> 00:35:33,591 because nobody's ever asked them. 894 00:35:33,633 --> 00:35:36,386 Right? So when you ask me the questions, 895 00:35:36,428 --> 00:35:38,596 I'm excited to give you the information, 896 00:35:38,638 --> 00:35:40,265 not just because I want to talk about it 897 00:35:40,306 --> 00:35:43,309 because there's another person that can become a weapon 898 00:35:43,351 --> 00:35:47,188 in the business that people assume has to be one way. 899 00:35:47,230 --> 00:35:49,607 The more ground breakers, 900 00:35:49,649 --> 00:35:52,444 the more fucking shakers, 901 00:35:52,485 --> 00:35:55,030 the more that the business keeps growing. 902 00:35:55,071 --> 00:35:59,117 If it doesn't have those people, those minds, 903 00:35:59,159 --> 00:36:00,326 well, then, we're in a plug and play 904 00:36:00,368 --> 00:36:01,953 for the next 30 years again. 905 00:36:01,995 --> 00:36:05,790 -Yeah, but I mean, that's -- By the way, uh, man, you're -- 906 00:36:05,832 --> 00:36:07,292 you're hitting on all cylinders. 907 00:36:07,334 --> 00:36:10,128 But that's also very brave to say because I think -- 908 00:36:10,170 --> 00:36:11,838 I think there is a philosophy of human nature 909 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,549 out there that like, "Oh, man, I cracked the code. 910 00:36:14,591 --> 00:36:16,301 I've got the secret. I'm going to -- 911 00:36:16,343 --> 00:36:18,553 I don't want to tell anyone what I'm doing." 912 00:36:18,595 --> 00:36:21,556 You know, a lot of the times, 913 00:36:21,598 --> 00:36:24,976 I'll use WWE as an example, we go out there 914 00:36:25,018 --> 00:36:27,270 and it's physically brutal. 915 00:36:27,312 --> 00:36:32,901 But when we choreograph the physical stuff, 916 00:36:32,942 --> 00:36:34,361 you trust your partner, 917 00:36:34,402 --> 00:36:36,571 you trust the person you're in there with. 918 00:36:36,613 --> 00:36:38,406 A lot of times, you make double sure 919 00:36:38,448 --> 00:36:40,033 that everything's gonna go right. 920 00:36:40,075 --> 00:36:41,159 If you have to practice something 921 00:36:41,201 --> 00:36:43,828 umpteen million times, you do. 922 00:36:43,870 --> 00:36:47,707 But when it comes to talking shit, 923 00:36:47,749 --> 00:36:49,459 I always try to say, like, 924 00:36:49,501 --> 00:36:51,795 "Okay, we're gonna go out there and talk shit about each other. 925 00:36:51,836 --> 00:36:53,505 Do you want to go in the room together 926 00:36:53,546 --> 00:36:55,465 and figure out what we're gonna say?" 927 00:36:55,507 --> 00:36:58,385 99 times out of 100, people will be like, 928 00:36:58,426 --> 00:36:59,969 "Nope. I'll just see you out there." 929 00:37:00,011 --> 00:37:02,305 And I like that because I like to be connected. 930 00:37:02,347 --> 00:37:05,308 I like to be present, 931 00:37:05,350 --> 00:37:07,394 but, man, they don't want to share the secret. 932 00:37:07,435 --> 00:37:10,230 That -- I'll use that as a -- as an analogy of like if -- 933 00:37:10,271 --> 00:37:12,107 if you think you have the code cracked, 934 00:37:12,148 --> 00:37:13,441 of, like, "No, I'm not -- 935 00:37:13,483 --> 00:37:14,984 No, because I'm not gonna tell you my jokes. 936 00:37:15,026 --> 00:37:17,195 Like, I got some shit on you, man. I'm not gonna -- 937 00:37:17,237 --> 00:37:19,114 I'm not gonna give away my secret." 938 00:37:19,155 --> 00:37:22,033 What astounded me about you is you operate 939 00:37:22,075 --> 00:37:24,160 at such a high capacity, 940 00:37:24,202 --> 00:37:26,037 and you were like, "Here's the playbook." 941 00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:29,499 But honestly, in listening to you give me the playbook, 942 00:37:29,541 --> 00:37:34,295 and watching you over the three days, I was, like -- 943 00:37:34,337 --> 00:37:36,297 I'm like, "Yo, man, I'm -- I am so --" 944 00:37:36,339 --> 00:37:38,133 One, I'm proud of you, for whatever that means. 945 00:37:38,174 --> 00:37:41,594 Two, I'm astounded, and three, I'm happy for your success. 946 00:37:41,636 --> 00:37:44,723 I just don't know if I got that gear in the shifter, dude. 947 00:37:44,764 --> 00:37:46,224 -That's what we talked about the most. 948 00:37:46,266 --> 00:37:49,811 -You -- You just fucking go. Like... 949 00:37:49,853 --> 00:37:53,231 -Well, stop there, because we're talking about a gear. 950 00:37:53,273 --> 00:37:55,734 And before we shift to another gear, 951 00:37:55,775 --> 00:37:57,318 I want to take another break, man. 952 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,030 Guys, as you can see, this car is moving. 953 00:38:00,071 --> 00:38:02,949 Right now we're in third but I'm about to Goddamn get to fifth. 954 00:38:02,991 --> 00:38:06,703 Don't move because I've got fucking shots to be made. 955 00:38:06,745 --> 00:38:08,663 -But you said you were moving. You said we were moving. 956 00:38:08,705 --> 00:38:10,749 Don't move, but we're moving. -I've got -- Goddamn. 957 00:38:10,790 --> 00:38:12,625 A turbo swift... -I'll tell you what. 958 00:38:12,667 --> 00:38:14,669 -Fuck me. -You've got that air cooler. 959 00:38:14,711 --> 00:38:16,546 You've got that -- -Goddamn it, guys. 960 00:38:16,588 --> 00:38:18,590 I told you write something and put it in the prompter, Harry. 961 00:38:18,631 --> 00:38:20,133 -It's -- It's savory. Savory. 962 00:38:20,175 --> 00:38:22,093 -I said put a car reference in the prompter! 963 00:38:22,135 --> 00:38:25,138 -Savory. -Fuck me, man! 964 00:38:25,180 --> 00:38:27,349 Guys, we'll be right back with more "Hart to Heart" after this. 965 00:38:27,390 --> 00:38:28,683 This is great. -Thank you. 966 00:38:28,725 --> 00:38:30,602 -Hello? -The sign says "No soliciting." 967 00:38:30,643 --> 00:38:32,562 Go away. -Yeah -- Yeah, no, 968 00:38:32,604 --> 00:38:34,230 we didn't see a sign. There's no sign. 969 00:38:34,272 --> 00:38:36,066 -Who took my sign?! -We didn't take it. 970 00:38:36,107 --> 00:38:37,275 -Go. -Alright! 971 00:38:37,317 --> 00:38:40,195 -Hey! Hey! It's me. -It's Kevin Hart. 972 00:38:40,236 --> 00:38:41,696 -Oh, how do you like your tea? 973 00:38:56,044 --> 00:38:58,171 -Guys, we were talking about shifting gears. 974 00:38:58,213 --> 00:39:00,590 Uh, jokingly I said that we were going to get to fifth, 975 00:39:00,632 --> 00:39:02,467 but I was serious, man. 976 00:39:02,509 --> 00:39:04,302 Um, in shifting gears, 977 00:39:04,344 --> 00:39:05,845 there's a real question that I have for you. 978 00:39:05,887 --> 00:39:07,097 Right? Like, you -- 979 00:39:07,138 --> 00:39:08,765 It's the second time that you've said to me, 980 00:39:08,807 --> 00:39:10,725 you said, "Man, I don't know if I have that gear." 981 00:39:10,767 --> 00:39:13,269 You said, "I don't know if I can do that 982 00:39:13,311 --> 00:39:15,814 or if I want that much." Right? 983 00:39:15,855 --> 00:39:19,567 You're very at peace with your now. 984 00:39:19,609 --> 00:39:24,656 You're very at peace with understanding the opportunities, 985 00:39:24,698 --> 00:39:27,409 and you're appreciative of them all. 986 00:39:27,450 --> 00:39:29,786 Um, and it's like this -- this world of, you know, 987 00:39:29,828 --> 00:39:31,454 what's going to happen is going to happen, 988 00:39:31,496 --> 00:39:33,373 and I'm thankful for all of it. 989 00:39:33,415 --> 00:39:35,667 Is there a "What now?" Is there -- 990 00:39:35,709 --> 00:39:38,837 Is there something else that John wants to do, 991 00:39:38,878 --> 00:39:41,423 like, before it's all said and done, 992 00:39:41,464 --> 00:39:46,261 I have to make sure that I do "X," "Y," and "Z?" 993 00:39:46,302 --> 00:39:49,222 Is there anything like that for you? 994 00:39:49,264 --> 00:39:50,598 -I think -- 995 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,519 I think when you -- when you are young 996 00:39:54,561 --> 00:39:59,983 and you are figuring life out, you get put in direction 997 00:40:00,025 --> 00:40:01,693 and it might be a direction of fluency, 998 00:40:01,735 --> 00:40:03,737 it might be something you have to work hard to achieve. 999 00:40:03,778 --> 00:40:05,530 But when you experience something 1000 00:40:05,572 --> 00:40:07,157 that you may be good at 1001 00:40:07,198 --> 00:40:10,368 or, like, you feel you can excel at, 1002 00:40:10,410 --> 00:40:12,620 I remember thinking about purpose, 1003 00:40:12,662 --> 00:40:15,081 and for years -- for -- 1004 00:40:15,123 --> 00:40:17,959 seeing a ring and knowing that I wanted to do it. 1005 00:40:18,001 --> 00:40:21,004 But then being a contributing member of the WWE family 1006 00:40:21,046 --> 00:40:23,923 and being like, "This is what I was born to do." 1007 00:40:23,965 --> 00:40:25,759 At a young age thinking, 1008 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,428 "This is my purpose." -Mm-hmm. 1009 00:40:28,470 --> 00:40:32,599 -And then, of course, time's undefeated, 1010 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,642 so the body gets a little bit beat up, 1011 00:40:34,684 --> 00:40:38,605 and I get an opportunity to become a storyteller onscreen. 1012 00:40:38,646 --> 00:40:41,441 And man, through reading the news, 1013 00:40:41,483 --> 00:40:43,526 through hosting some shows, 1014 00:40:43,568 --> 00:40:47,489 just take the things that I've learned and I enjoy 1015 00:40:47,530 --> 00:40:48,990 without the physical aspect 1016 00:40:49,032 --> 00:40:51,534 because it's getting tougher and tougher for me to -- 1017 00:40:51,576 --> 00:40:55,538 to run that hard, and enjoy putting on a wig 1018 00:40:55,580 --> 00:40:58,208 and letting my balls hang out. -Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. 1019 00:40:58,249 --> 00:41:00,418 -And have fun with that, and then -- 1020 00:41:00,460 --> 00:41:04,464 and then do it in a -- in another avenue, um, 1021 00:41:04,506 --> 00:41:07,509 for "Fast and the Furious" or for "Peacemaker." 1022 00:41:07,550 --> 00:41:09,761 Uh, so I think, 1023 00:41:09,803 --> 00:41:12,889 "Well, my purpose on this earth is to tell stories. 1024 00:41:12,931 --> 00:41:16,559 That's what I was born to do. I was born to tell stories." 1025 00:41:16,601 --> 00:41:18,561 And then you get to look at more 1026 00:41:18,603 --> 00:41:21,523 because that's not all I'm -- 1027 00:41:21,564 --> 00:41:24,567 That's not all that defines me. I want to -- 1028 00:41:24,609 --> 00:41:27,654 I want to try to be a good husband to my loving wife. 1029 00:41:27,696 --> 00:41:30,615 I want to try to be a good friend to those I love. 1030 00:41:30,657 --> 00:41:33,493 I want to try to take care of myself and my health. 1031 00:41:33,535 --> 00:41:35,328 I want to try to take care of my mental health 1032 00:41:35,370 --> 00:41:36,496 and stay stable. 1033 00:41:36,538 --> 00:41:38,581 I'm not just a storyteller. 1034 00:41:38,623 --> 00:41:42,293 So I boiled down my purpose to just -- 1035 00:41:42,335 --> 00:41:44,671 to just earning every sunrise. 1036 00:41:44,713 --> 00:41:46,673 -Damn. -Like -- 1037 00:41:46,715 --> 00:41:50,468 And that's why I don't necessarily hunt down things. 1038 00:41:50,510 --> 00:41:54,180 Um, and if nothing... 1039 00:41:54,222 --> 00:41:56,683 And, you know... So that, th-- 1040 00:41:56,725 --> 00:41:58,435 I'm sh-- shifting around here. 1041 00:41:58,476 --> 00:41:59,936 You've got to bear with me. -No, you're fine. 1042 00:41:59,978 --> 00:42:01,563 I'm honestly following you. -What, uh -- 1043 00:42:01,604 --> 00:42:04,232 What is wealth? What is wealth to you? 1044 00:42:04,274 --> 00:42:07,027 -Happiness. -How so? 1045 00:42:07,068 --> 00:42:10,739 -Your personal definition of happiness 1046 00:42:10,780 --> 00:42:15,035 has to be a clear definition of what wealth is, right? 1047 00:42:15,076 --> 00:42:20,373 I mean, but you can only make that decision sometimes, 1048 00:42:20,415 --> 00:42:21,875 and I don't want to speak for everybody, 1049 00:42:21,916 --> 00:42:25,086 after having money and realizing that money does not 1050 00:42:25,128 --> 00:42:27,047 solve all problems. 1051 00:42:27,088 --> 00:42:29,466 There's a concept 1052 00:42:29,507 --> 00:42:31,384 and idea that's attached to money, 1053 00:42:31,426 --> 00:42:32,552 that it solves everything. 1054 00:42:32,594 --> 00:42:33,803 And by the way, it doesn't. 1055 00:42:33,845 --> 00:42:35,263 Is money important? Absolutely. 1056 00:42:35,305 --> 00:42:37,891 I'm not gonna sit up here and act as if it's not. 1057 00:42:37,932 --> 00:42:39,934 Absolutely it is. 1058 00:42:39,976 --> 00:42:44,522 But when you really start to get down to it, 1059 00:42:44,564 --> 00:42:48,193 your foundation, the people around you, um, 1060 00:42:48,234 --> 00:42:53,406 that world that you've chosen that not only represents you 1061 00:42:53,448 --> 00:42:59,788 but that makes your heart beat the best possible beat 1062 00:42:59,829 --> 00:43:04,584 that you can -- that you can deliver, right, 1063 00:43:04,626 --> 00:43:06,419 that's when your happiness really starts 1064 00:43:06,461 --> 00:43:07,921 to present itself. 1065 00:43:07,962 --> 00:43:11,257 Um, falling in love with your surroundings 1066 00:43:11,299 --> 00:43:14,678 and what you've chose to give yourself to, 1067 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,764 that to me is real wealth. 1068 00:43:17,806 --> 00:43:21,726 My happiness, now, 1069 00:43:21,768 --> 00:43:28,274 is realizing how blessed I am to experience life 1070 00:43:28,316 --> 00:43:29,567 at the level that I have. 1071 00:43:29,609 --> 00:43:32,779 And I understand that it's not given. 1072 00:43:32,821 --> 00:43:34,114 Since we've talked here today, 1073 00:43:34,155 --> 00:43:37,534 we both are talking as experienced, 1074 00:43:37,575 --> 00:43:43,289 evolved men that have overcome obstacles 1075 00:43:43,331 --> 00:43:47,377 that better help us appreciate the world of our now. 1076 00:43:47,419 --> 00:43:51,297 So our rewards we hold on to 1077 00:43:51,339 --> 00:43:54,509 because we know where the fuck we've come from. 1078 00:43:54,551 --> 00:43:55,760 Everybody can't have that mind-set. 1079 00:43:55,802 --> 00:43:57,012 -Sure. -So everybody's not going to 1080 00:43:57,053 --> 00:43:58,888 have the same answer for wealth. -Sure. 1081 00:43:58,930 --> 00:44:01,182 Uh, that's the reason I asked. -Mm-hmm. 1082 00:44:01,224 --> 00:44:03,226 -Mine is -- Mine is of a different prospective. 1083 00:44:03,268 --> 00:44:05,812 -What is yours? -We think of the word -- 1084 00:44:05,854 --> 00:44:08,023 -If you fucking say something that makes me sound stupid, 1085 00:44:08,064 --> 00:44:10,525 John, I swear to God. -No. No. Kevin. 1086 00:44:10,567 --> 00:44:11,985 -I swear to God. I swear to God. -I, um... 1087 00:44:12,027 --> 00:44:14,070 This -- This one took me a long time. 1088 00:44:14,112 --> 00:44:16,823 And my definition of wealth has changed. 1089 00:44:16,865 --> 00:44:18,408 And only recently, 1090 00:44:18,450 --> 00:44:21,745 and maybe this would attribute to how you saw my personality. 1091 00:44:21,786 --> 00:44:23,830 It was like, "Man, you just seem so...okay." 1092 00:44:23,872 --> 00:44:26,624 -Mm-hmm. -We often attribute 1093 00:44:26,666 --> 00:44:28,168 the word wealth to finance. 1094 00:44:28,209 --> 00:44:30,086 We attribute the word wealth to economy. 1095 00:44:30,128 --> 00:44:32,839 But you can have a wealth of love in your life. 1096 00:44:32,881 --> 00:44:34,674 -Mm-hmm. -It's a phrase to have 1097 00:44:34,716 --> 00:44:36,468 a wealth of knowledge. 1098 00:44:36,509 --> 00:44:38,178 You can have a wealth of wisdom. 1099 00:44:38,219 --> 00:44:39,679 You can have a wealth of strength. 1100 00:44:39,721 --> 00:44:40,847 You can have a wealth of money, 1101 00:44:40,889 --> 00:44:42,515 which is a wealth of resource. 1102 00:44:42,557 --> 00:44:48,730 Wealth is the comfort to skip to an advanced level. 1103 00:44:48,772 --> 00:44:50,982 If you have a wealth of knowledge, 1104 00:44:51,024 --> 00:44:52,400 you don't have to think about it. 1105 00:44:52,442 --> 00:44:53,693 Yeah, I know that from this. 1106 00:44:53,735 --> 00:44:54,861 If you have a wealth of wisdom, 1107 00:44:54,903 --> 00:44:56,154 "Let me tell you, young buck, 1108 00:44:56,196 --> 00:44:57,739 this is how it is because I've been there." 1109 00:44:57,781 --> 00:44:58,948 -Mm-hmm. -If you have a wealth 1110 00:44:58,990 --> 00:45:00,325 of strength, not as many warm-up sets 1111 00:45:00,367 --> 00:45:02,077 before there are four plates on the bar. 1112 00:45:02,118 --> 00:45:03,828 If you have a wealth of resource, 1113 00:45:03,870 --> 00:45:06,581 "I want to get from here to there right now." 1114 00:45:06,623 --> 00:45:09,042 Because that's what I need to do. 1115 00:45:09,084 --> 00:45:10,710 If you have a wealth of love, 1116 00:45:10,752 --> 00:45:13,046 well, you're not searching for anything else 1117 00:45:13,088 --> 00:45:15,215 because you feel genuinely happy. 1118 00:45:15,256 --> 00:45:17,926 If you have self worth or wealth of self, 1119 00:45:17,967 --> 00:45:19,302 you feel that you are enough 1120 00:45:19,344 --> 00:45:21,930 and you don't have to go searching for any angles. 1121 00:45:21,971 --> 00:45:25,767 I have adopted that philosophy of 1122 00:45:25,809 --> 00:45:29,896 earning every sunrise to try to take each day 1123 00:45:29,938 --> 00:45:33,775 and make sure that I spread the wealth. 1124 00:45:33,817 --> 00:45:39,406 That it is not just of economic gain because if -- 1125 00:45:39,447 --> 00:45:41,825 I spent so long just running 1126 00:45:41,866 --> 00:45:44,244 and I'm grateful for it, 1127 00:45:44,285 --> 00:45:47,914 just like I spent so long trying to get validation from my dad. 1128 00:45:47,956 --> 00:45:50,417 I'm grate-- My dad was my biggest driving force 1129 00:45:50,458 --> 00:45:52,627 for so long, 1130 00:45:52,669 --> 00:45:54,629 but then it was counterproductive. 1131 00:45:54,671 --> 00:45:57,257 I'm never going to get it, 1132 00:45:57,298 --> 00:45:59,426 and if I do, then it's never gonna be the reward that I want. 1133 00:45:59,467 --> 00:46:01,594 He'll say, "This is the best I can give." 1134 00:46:01,636 --> 00:46:03,096 And "That's not enough!" 1135 00:46:03,138 --> 00:46:05,223 You can do the same with money. 1136 00:46:05,265 --> 00:46:08,059 Make hay while the sun shines in our business 1137 00:46:08,101 --> 00:46:10,729 because if you get hurt, you don't get paid. 1138 00:46:10,770 --> 00:46:15,358 I have -- I have a wealth of wisdom in the WWE, 1139 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:20,113 and I have a wealth of resources because of my investment, 1140 00:46:20,155 --> 00:46:22,115 but, man, was I short on love, 1141 00:46:22,157 --> 00:46:24,117 man, was I short on self-worth. 1142 00:46:24,159 --> 00:46:26,911 You know, my -- my physical health, 1143 00:46:26,953 --> 00:46:28,371 my strength was showcased on TV, 1144 00:46:28,413 --> 00:46:31,082 but, damn, I wasn't really taking care of myself. 1145 00:46:31,124 --> 00:46:35,337 So I learned kind of at a tipping point to, like, 1146 00:46:35,378 --> 00:46:36,796 spread the wealth. 1147 00:46:36,838 --> 00:46:40,258 And if -- if one bucket gets too low, where -- 1148 00:46:40,300 --> 00:46:41,760 where am I in excess? 1149 00:46:41,801 --> 00:46:43,470 Where am I going too hard? 1150 00:46:43,511 --> 00:46:45,138 Am I chasing too much money? 1151 00:46:45,180 --> 00:46:50,810 And I -- That seems, like, so anti- what everybody's heard, 1152 00:46:50,852 --> 00:46:53,646 but, like, man, what are -- 1153 00:46:53,688 --> 00:46:55,148 like, what are you chasing? 1154 00:46:55,190 --> 00:46:56,816 -Mm-hmm. -You know, like, if you -- 1155 00:46:56,858 --> 00:46:59,235 if you define your needs in life, 1156 00:46:59,277 --> 00:47:03,156 like, when you say like, "Yo, I want to shift culture," 1157 00:47:03,198 --> 00:47:05,784 that takes tremendous resource. 1158 00:47:05,825 --> 00:47:07,702 So, boy, do I understand when you're like, 1159 00:47:07,744 --> 00:47:09,788 "Yo, I need to do this, 1160 00:47:09,829 --> 00:47:11,289 I need to do this, I need to this." 1161 00:47:11,331 --> 00:47:14,376 Because your purpose you feel is changing culture. 1162 00:47:14,417 --> 00:47:18,463 That doesn't happen overnight, and it -- it ain't cheap. 1163 00:47:18,505 --> 00:47:21,549 So I get that. I just -- 1164 00:47:21,591 --> 00:47:24,344 I lacked a lot of stuff when I looked in the glass 1165 00:47:24,386 --> 00:47:27,847 of like, "Man, you should have the world by the nuts." 1166 00:47:27,889 --> 00:47:32,143 But there were points where I was so off. 1167 00:47:32,185 --> 00:47:34,896 It's like, man, I'm, like, wondering 1168 00:47:34,938 --> 00:47:37,691 what the hell's the point of it all? 1169 00:47:37,732 --> 00:47:39,192 And I -- My definition, 1170 00:47:39,234 --> 00:47:41,903 just changing my definition of wealth, 1171 00:47:41,945 --> 00:47:44,739 to just be like, "Hey, have -- 1172 00:47:44,781 --> 00:47:46,700 Fill the buckets of whatever you want 1173 00:47:46,741 --> 00:47:49,536 to have proficiency in." 1174 00:47:49,577 --> 00:47:53,665 You know, um, I just look at -- 1175 00:47:53,707 --> 00:47:56,042 I look at purpose a little -- a little different, 1176 00:47:56,084 --> 00:47:58,003 and I look at wealth a little different. 1177 00:47:58,044 --> 00:48:01,506 When I got a chance to just work with you, like, I'm -- 1178 00:48:01,548 --> 00:48:03,341 I'm still in awe of all this. 1179 00:48:03,383 --> 00:48:05,176 I'm still in awe of every set I go to. 1180 00:48:05,218 --> 00:48:08,138 I'm still in awe of the functionality of every crew. 1181 00:48:08,179 --> 00:48:10,223 I should not be here. -Mm-hmm. 1182 00:48:10,265 --> 00:48:11,850 -That doesn't mean I don't work hard. 1183 00:48:11,891 --> 00:48:13,935 -Mm-hmm. -That means I'm appreciative. 1184 00:48:13,977 --> 00:48:16,354 -Mm-hmm. -And I just think 1185 00:48:16,396 --> 00:48:17,856 if you start laser -- 1186 00:48:17,897 --> 00:48:19,566 To me, if I start, not if you start, 1187 00:48:19,607 --> 00:48:21,901 if I start laser focusing, 1188 00:48:21,943 --> 00:48:24,946 chasing one piece of wealth, 1189 00:48:24,988 --> 00:48:26,489 that's when I start -- 1190 00:48:26,531 --> 00:48:29,075 maybe my perspective starts to get a little skewed. 1191 00:48:29,117 --> 00:48:30,827 So I just -- I just try to spread the wealth. 1192 00:48:30,869 --> 00:48:33,079 And, you know, these are the conversations I have 1193 00:48:33,121 --> 00:48:34,289 with the people I love. 1194 00:48:34,330 --> 00:48:35,874 These are the conversations I have 1195 00:48:35,915 --> 00:48:37,500 with the closest people in my life. 1196 00:48:37,542 --> 00:48:39,794 And that's why I can use the word love with them 1197 00:48:39,836 --> 00:48:42,088 because we've had these for years. 1198 00:48:42,130 --> 00:48:46,760 And then, we become close. That's how -- 1199 00:48:46,801 --> 00:48:47,927 That's how friendship starts. 1200 00:48:47,969 --> 00:48:49,554 It's, uh, that's just it. 1201 00:48:49,596 --> 00:48:51,139 -I'm-a tell you what you did. 1202 00:48:51,181 --> 00:48:56,019 Today you changed the perception of how some people may view you. 1203 00:48:56,061 --> 00:49:00,273 Um, man, your knowledge, your approach, 1204 00:49:00,315 --> 00:49:06,071 your take not just on life but on your journey, man, 1205 00:49:06,112 --> 00:49:08,615 it's, uh, it's refreshing. 1206 00:49:08,656 --> 00:49:10,575 You know what this was, John? -"Hart to Heart." 1207 00:49:10,617 --> 00:49:12,160 -This was a "Hart to Heart." 1208 00:49:12,202 --> 00:49:14,120 Cheers, man. -Cheers. 1209 00:49:14,162 --> 00:49:16,831 -Ladies and gentlemen, that's John Cena. 1210 00:49:16,873 --> 00:49:19,000 I'll see you next time. Goddamn. 1211 00:49:19,042 --> 00:49:20,710 Make some noise for John Cena everybody. 1212 00:49:20,752 --> 00:49:21,878 Goddamn, come on, guys. 1213 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,047 This fella deserves it. Holy cow. 1214 00:49:24,089 --> 00:49:27,801 -Alright. Savory. 1215 00:49:27,842 --> 00:49:29,552 Savory, you know? 1216 00:49:29,594 --> 00:49:31,680 -I told you it would be one of the best ones. 1217 00:49:31,721 --> 00:49:34,349 I knew it. I knew it, guys. 1218 00:49:34,391 --> 00:49:37,102 By the way I was able to navigate that conversation 1219 00:49:37,143 --> 00:49:38,895 in every direction. 1220 00:49:38,937 --> 00:49:41,856 -He did. -Have you guys noticed? 1221 00:49:41,898 --> 00:49:43,233 Nobody?