1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:08,120 --> 00:00:11,320 A NETFLIX DOCUMENTARY 4 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,800 "January 11, 2014, from… 5 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:42,080 Bastard." 6 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,000 That was his name. 7 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,160 "I always order my crystal here, then I shoot it up. 8 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,040 And when the first flashback comes 9 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,680 I cook the cocaine to make a bit of crack, 10 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,000 and then I smoke a nice pipe." 11 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,000 "Top-notch, A+++ stuff." 12 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,800 "Guys! I lost two teeth right afterwards. 13 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,920 This stuff really fucks you up. 14 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,080 I definitely recommend it, you dumbasses!" 15 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,640 Looks like he was satisfied. 16 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,160 1 TONNE OF DRUGS 17 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,320 IN HIS BEDROOM 18 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:31,280 I've never met a perpetrator like Mr. Schmidt before. 19 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,560 Maximilian went down in history as the kid who dealt from his bedroom 20 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:45,400 because he sold drugs online from his room at his parents' house. 21 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,000 I haven't been in this room for a long time. 22 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,080 It seems so small, but I'd guess the dimensions are right. 23 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,600 Well, small? It's certainly bigger than a prison cell. 24 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:21,320 The amount of drugs and money involved was astonishing, 25 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,000 and he was so young. 26 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,040 Right now I can't tell you how much money he has. 27 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:32,600 Safety. 28 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,320 Safety first. 29 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,480 That he's still proud of what he managed to achieve, 30 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:40,960 I think that's obvious. 31 00:02:41,920 --> 00:02:43,720 What happened here… 32 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:46,800 is what happened. 33 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:48,600 This is where I evolved. 34 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:49,840 Let's just say that. 35 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,080 SHINY FLAKES DRUG SHOP 36 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:54,200 PLEASE READ OUR FAQ FIRST 37 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:56,840 ADD TO CART 38 00:02:56,920 --> 00:02:58,080 PLACE ORDER 39 00:03:09,640 --> 00:03:10,840 POLICE HAVE 6,000 ADDRESSES! 40 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,920 MAIN TITLE 41 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,840 REPLICA OF BEDROOM 42 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,240 How does someone like Max 43 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,640 become Shiny Flakes? 44 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,280 When did he reach the point where he took that exit? 45 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,040 "I'm not going to keep going straight ahead, I'm going to turn off." 46 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,880 Why? When? How come? What for? 47 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,560 Kind of relaxed. 48 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,120 He lived in his room at his mother and her partner's place. 49 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,040 Those were his surroundings. 50 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,760 He has no friends that I know of. 51 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:35,000 STEFAN COSTABEL DEFENSE LAWYER 52 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,720 He hasn't had a girlfriend yet either. 53 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,240 I HAVE TEN ACCOUNTS LEFT. INTERESTED? 54 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:42,640 HOW MUCH? 55 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,760 TAKE THEM ALL THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE PRICE 56 00:04:48,840 --> 00:04:50,600 I LOST OVER THREE GRAND LAST WEEK 57 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,400 I was more the annoying guy 58 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,000 who drew negative attention. 59 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:58,800 But I… 60 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:02,680 was also calm. 61 00:05:04,280 --> 00:05:07,680 I was just the skinny kid who didn't exercise 62 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,800 and hung out on his computer instead. 63 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:11,800 In adolescence 64 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:12,840 when you… 65 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,200 develop a degree of arrogance. 66 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:18,920 The competition wasn't stiff. 67 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,720 GOT SOME CC+SC, NO PROBLEM 68 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:23,680 YEAH 69 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,480 MAX'S BEDROOM 70 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,320 HALLWAY, ROOM TWO, BALCONY 71 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:37,640 KITCHEN, BATHROOM, HALL 72 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,720 PARENTS' ROOM, LIVING ROOM 73 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,200 Back at that time I chatted with someone 74 00:05:44,280 --> 00:05:47,560 who I know by the alias "dumb pig." 75 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,480 DUMB_PIG@JABBER.SK 76 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,520 STATUS: AVAILABLE SUBSRCIPTION: BOTH 77 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:55,080 And… 78 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:56,000 WHAT'S UP? 79 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,480 You talk about lots of things as the night goes on. It drags on. 80 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:00,680 NO PLANS 81 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,560 You talk about all kinds of bullshit. 82 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,400 I WAS JUST ON SILK ROAD. SO OVER THE TOP. KNOW IT? 83 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,640 At some point we got to talking about Silk Road. 84 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,080 "What's on it?" This, that, this. 85 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,320 And I think in that moment it was primarily about 86 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:24,320 what they offer in the way of internet fraud. 87 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,720 SILK ROAD ANONYMOUS MARKET 88 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,480 Until I realized it's actually more about drugs. 89 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:30,800 CANNABIS - DISSOCIATIVES - ECSTACY - OPIOIDS 90 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,920 GOOD QUALITY "ALI BABA'S HASH" FROM CAOUEN 91 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,080 Drugs, drugs, drugs, drugs… 92 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:37,800 From 100 doses of LSD here 93 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,720 to two grams of crystal meth there. 94 00:06:42,280 --> 00:06:44,160 THEY HAVE EVERYTHING EVEN A RATING SYSTEM! 95 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,480 We went back and forth talking about it. 96 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:52,600 We realized the reason for all the drugs was that profit margins are so high. 97 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,520 Then I thought, yeah that's true. I crunched the numbers. 98 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,000 I did research. 99 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:01,840 UNDERGROUND WEBSITE LETS YOU BUY ANY DRUG IMAGINABLE 100 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,680 There was no moment where I thought, "Whoa, how crazy is this?" 101 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,480 It was more, "Whoa, this is crazy!" So, in a positive sense. 102 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,080 It didn't intimidate me, it made me want more. 103 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:15,360 ANONYMIZING NETWORK, TOR. 104 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:16,920 ANONYMOUS MONEY 105 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:18,280 …AND SELL DRUGS ONLINE… 106 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,760 My first thought was, "This exists, but it can be done way better." 107 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,640 IT ALL HAS TO BE IMPROVED ON 108 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,880 WEBSITE, SUPPORT, PICTURES… 109 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,760 EVERYTHING 110 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,040 THAT'S SOME BIG TALK 111 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:30,960 LOL NO 112 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:32,000 NO SUBSTANCE 113 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,040 WANNA BET 114 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,440 The guy I was talking to, dumb_pig, said, 115 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,360 "It's not so easy. It's dangerous." Yada, yada. 116 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,960 "You can't just make it better. How do you think you can make it better? 117 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,960 There is no other platform." 118 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,480 "All right, then you just make your own platform." 119 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,360 How can I ship it better than this guy? 120 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,800 How can I get a better profit margin than him? 121 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,640 How can I get more customers than him? 122 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,840 How can I satisfy customers better? 123 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:02,600 COKE, HASH AND SPEED SHOULD WORK WITH PEOPLE UP FOR WASTING MONEY 124 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,640 …WHO DON'T WANT TO BUY IN THE PARK 125 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,400 There were lots of sellers. 126 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,920 One had better customer service, the next one had the best prices, 127 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,760 but there wasn't anyone who did everything really well. 128 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,440 THIS IS THE DUMBEST IDEA YOU'VE EVER HAD 129 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,000 KINDERGARTEN GANGSTER COMPETING WITH A FIVE MM BUSINESS 130 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:25,840 YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW A DEALER 131 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:27,040 SO I GET TO KNOW ONE???? 132 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:31,240 Lots of the dealers come from a different background. 133 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,360 They tend to come from the streets and have contacts where they get drugs. 134 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:36,920 They sold them there, 135 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,120 but have no technical knowledge on how to protect themselves 136 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,000 or how to set up their own shop and present things nicely. 137 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,880 I'M GOING TO LOOK FOR SUPPLIERS… 138 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,480 KAY… 139 00:08:55,560 --> 00:08:59,040 It wasn't necessarily like I decided, "OK, I'm doing this." 140 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,480 It was more like, "How could you do it?" 141 00:09:02,560 --> 00:09:04,880 And then you think it through. 142 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:09,240 And in order to see how to reach the goal you already start doing some of it. 143 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:11,640 Then I gave it a try. 144 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,280 REDBULL@EXPLOIT.IM STATUS: AVAILABLE, SUBSCRIPTION: BOTH 145 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,480 HEY, HOW'S IT GOING? WE DON'T KNOW EACH OTHER. 146 00:09:23,560 --> 00:09:24,960 TRUE. 147 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,840 I WANT TO SELL. I NEED 25G OF COKE AND TEN MDMA. TO TEST 148 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,120 CAN YOU GIVE ME A GOOD PRICE? I'LL NEED IT REGULARLY. 149 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:43,680 1,700. BITCOIN ONLY 150 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,760 DELIVER TO PACKSTATION 151 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,560 OK 152 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,480 SEBASTIAN BUCHHOLZ, PACKSTATION, 145 04159 LEIPZIG 153 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:45,120 When I placed my first order with redbull, 154 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:50,240 I think it was something silly like 25 grams of cocaine 155 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,680 and something like ten or 20 grams of MDMA. 156 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:55,480 That was it. 157 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,440 I suddenly had it there 158 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,480 and had to see how it smelled, how it looked. 159 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,920 Hm? It was all very new and unusual. 160 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:09,600 What do I know about drugs? 161 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,480 It surprised everyone 162 00:11:13,560 --> 00:11:18,680 because everyone assumes that the people who are active in this sphere 163 00:11:19,560 --> 00:11:21,240 also consume regularly. 164 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:22,800 And that's just not Max. 165 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:26,640 COCAINE 166 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,160 First I had to read up on what it does to you. 167 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,480 What do people do with it? 168 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,200 When you watch shows and feature films 169 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,400 everything's always cool, only heroin gets a bad rap. 170 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,960 But other than that it's, "Hey, party! It's all fun." 171 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,200 Funnily enough I had this cool Xbox. 172 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,720 It had this kind of piano-black reflective surface, 173 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:01,560 and I thought, 174 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,480 "Hm, if I put it in front of my TV 175 00:12:03,560 --> 00:12:06,680 and then put a cool fire on my TV, 176 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:11,000 then I'm sure the reflection will look really good on the Xbox." 177 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:22,960 And the picture was the bomb. 178 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,200 At first lots of people praised that and said, "It looks so yummy. 179 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,640 That's the only reason I'm ordering." 180 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,640 At the very start I was really nervous and thought, 181 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,560 "Oh, God! Maybe it's like in movies, you do something and the cops come." 182 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:08,120 But once you've understood the technical background that vanishes. 183 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,760 All that left were all the possibilities for what you could do. 184 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:13,880 Like a game. 185 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,040 REGISTER YOUR DOMAINS FROM JUST 3.98/YR. 186 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,080 SHINY-FLAKES SEARCH 187 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,680 CUSTOMIZE YOUR SITE 188 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:23,600 HTTP://SHINY-FLAKES.COM 189 00:13:23,680 --> 00:13:24,600 SHINYDOMAIN@SAFE-MAIL.NET 190 00:13:24,680 --> 00:13:25,720 NOTHING FOUND 191 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:27,800 CUSTOMIZE 192 00:13:28,680 --> 00:13:31,840 SHINY-FLAKES DRUG SHOP - BUY DRUGS WITH BITCOINS 193 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,200 BUY DRUGS EASILY WITH BITCOINS 194 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:39,960 LAYOUT SET FEATURED IMAGE 195 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,040 I was often asked how this shop is different 196 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:48,680 to other online shops. 197 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,800 Not at all. The products were different. 198 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,360 You paid for it in advance, 199 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,040 then it was processed and sent. 200 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:58,920 Instead of shoes it was drugs. 201 00:14:01,560 --> 00:14:02,520 SHINY FLAKES - DELICATE SPEED PASTE 202 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:03,840 ADD TO CART 203 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:05,080 XTC - LUCKY CLOVERS 204 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,880 For people who weren't so familiar with things… 205 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:08,800 FAQ (GERMAN) 206 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,440 …there was a section for frequently asked questions. 207 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,560 HOW DO YOU RECEIVE A PACKAGE ANONYMOUSLY? 208 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,440 HOW FAST CAN YOU SHIP TO ME? 209 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,080 PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ THE FAQ 210 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,160 You could read and learn there 211 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,280 how it all works so everything stays anonymous. 212 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,600 IS IT SECURE? 213 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:28,560 ANSWER: YES! 214 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:33,240 YOUR ADDRESS INFO IS ONLY RECORDED FOR SHIPPING AND IS THEN DELETED 215 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:37,960 THEN DELETED 216 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:39,600 SAVE CHANGES 217 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,400 SHIP TO SPECIFIC COUNTRIES ONLY 218 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:42,840 SHIP TO ALL COUNTRIES 219 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,920 It is also interesting that there was a minimum order value. 220 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:55,400 It was set up so the customer could rate how satisfied they were. 221 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,240 PETRIC KLEINE FORMER PRESIDENT OF SAXONY BCI 222 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:02,200 That was fascinating. I'd never seen anything like it before. 223 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:03,960 It's like Amazon. 224 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,120 I don't get the Amazon comparison. 225 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,200 Amazon has different retailers. 226 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,920 With me it was just me. 227 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,120 TRANSFERRING… ELAPSED 228 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,840 QUEED FILES… SUCCESSFUL TRANSFERS 229 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,600 …SHINYFLAKES/WORDPRESS" SUCCESSFUL 230 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,200 RIGHT, I'M READY… 231 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,800 Lots of people who are good with tech will say, 232 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:54,800 "Okay, with a bit of thought and effort, I could have maybe done the same thing." 233 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,120 But the difference is, either you do it or you don't. 234 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:09,880 READ OUR F.A.Q. FIRST! 235 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,440 SHINY-FLAKES.COM/ RA6FALARUVGWBMPJ.ONION SINCE 2013 236 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,320 CHECK THIS OUT, NEW CLEARNET SHOP, SHINYFLAKES.COM 237 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:20,520 WICKED STUFF 238 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,960 I DIDN'T KNOW YOU COULD DO THAT ONLINE. 239 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,440 My shop could be run normally in the internet 240 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,920 because, with the right knowledge, it was simply possible. 241 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:33,760 It's no different than someone being in a marketplace in a city, 242 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:35,600 maybe behind glass. 243 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,920 RICARDO SCHULZ CHIEF PROSECUTOR 244 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,160 But then running an illegal business in plain sight. 245 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:46,120 Well, it was pretty brazen. Someone was very sure of himself. 246 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,760 Other people probably wouldn't manage it. 247 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:50,160 DR. HANS CHRISTOF HIERONYMUS FORENSIC PSYCHIATRIST 248 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,600 Because they're worried or scared or think, "I can't do that. 249 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:58,520 That's an outrageous thing to do. I'll harm lots of people doing that." 250 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,240 But he has no such scruples, 251 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:05,040 and that's why he succeeded in doing it all so clinically. 252 00:17:05,120 --> 00:17:09,079 "I control everything. I'm above everything. I can do this." 253 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:10,400 That's dangerous. 254 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,040 The idea to do the whole thing 255 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,520 came on December 10, 2013. 256 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:19,560 Two weeks later, I think on Christmas Day, the shop was up. 257 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,359 And then the problem was more, 258 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,079 "Okay, now I have a shop, 259 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,319 if I knew better how to get it to customers." 260 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,480 Then I forwarded it to dumb_pig 261 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,119 who was supposed to handle sales. 262 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,080 I wasn't up for doing that. It was too real for me. 263 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,160 So I thought, "Okay, look, you get all of it, 264 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,520 then follow my instructions and everything will be fine." 265 00:17:44,360 --> 00:17:46,920 ORDER, PURCHASED #1 BY GUEST, ONE ITEM 266 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,640 ORDER #1 BY GUEST 267 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,200 #2, 3, 4, 5 BY GUEST 268 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,600 DUMB_PIG@JABBER.SK 269 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,280 OFFLINE 270 00:18:02,360 --> 00:18:04,640 LAST ONLINE 1 DAYS AGO 271 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,680 LAST ONLINE 2… 3 DAYS AGO 272 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:10,600 I don't know what his real online name was 273 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,000 but at some point I started calling him dumb_pig. 274 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:17,520 Why? 275 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,320 Because he's a dumb pig. 276 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,280 HEY, WHERE ARE YOU? 277 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:30,840 PEOPLE ARE ORDERING ALREADY! 278 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,360 LAST ONLINE 3… 4 DAYS AGO 279 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,440 HELLLOOOOOO! 280 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,800 Yeah, dumb_pig bailed, and I thought, 281 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,400 "What bullshit, I worked so hard the last 30 days 282 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,120 and now it's just over? 283 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:48,400 I don't want anything to do with shipping. It's all too close to home. 284 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,600 I'd rather just do stuff on my PC and have my peace." 285 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:56,360 And then I thought, "No, now I've started it and it's not… 286 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,520 I can't just stop halfway." 287 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,120 So I did it myself. 288 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,480 Were you worried your family would notice? 289 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:31,840 No family. 290 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:34,640 Didn't anybody notice? 291 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:38,520 Nope. 292 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,120 At the very beginning, 293 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:16,920 January, February, March, 294 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,920 it was all very amateurish. 295 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,400 There's no online instructions on breaking up MDMA 296 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,320 or on how to portion out cocaine. 297 00:20:26,360 --> 00:20:29,200 So I had to try things out on my own 298 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:30,720 to see what I could even do. 299 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:33,800 Even the simplest things. 300 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,600 At first I had a knife 301 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,040 and started digging around in the MDMA, which is like a rock. 302 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,880 It was chaotic. 303 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,000 HI, EVERYTHING GOT HERE ALL RIGHT 304 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,760 LIKE I SAID 305 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,600 Redbull was my first supplier. 306 00:21:06,360 --> 00:21:08,520 He really helped me a lot. 307 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,080 -MDMA IS REALLY HARD -BULL 308 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,120 He didn't just sell me stuff, 309 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,080 he also put me into contact with people. 310 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,720 He was a kind of mentor, I'd say. 311 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,360 I could ask him any stupid question, eventually he answered. 312 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,200 MDMA IS KID'S STUFF 313 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,600 HOW DO I GET THE MDMA INTO SMALLER PIECES???? 314 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,560 HAMMER, CHISEL, PLASTIC BOX 315 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,320 JUST REALLY POUND ON IT 316 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,720 AND DON'T INHALE THE DUST 317 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:37,960 REALLY??? 318 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,200 What if someone had been standing here? 319 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,080 I was at the home improvement store. 320 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,560 Hammer, chisel. 321 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,160 The necessities. 322 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,280 That never happened? 323 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,480 Oh, no. They go to work, so… 324 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:11,480 Of course, it was very convenient that I could come in here and exit there. 325 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,240 And didn't have far to go. 326 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,840 Don't people make mistakes? 327 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:19,920 Not usually. 328 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,320 2019 329 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,200 LEIPZIG CORRECTIONAL FACILITY, OPEN PRISON 330 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,280 SHINY 331 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,720 This looks so funny. 332 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,320 I used to mess with prison officers when they came in at 6:00 a.m. 333 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,200 to see if you're still alive. 334 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,320 I always put a minion at the computer. 335 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,600 That confused them. 336 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:45,920 A pro. 337 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,280 When the shop was going I never imagined prison. 338 00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:51,840 So I had no idea what to expect. 339 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,080 Not that it would end like this. 340 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,720 But now four and a half years have passed. 341 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,480 In those four and a half years others study and do other things, 342 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,680 live the college life, et cetera. 343 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,320 Here, there's nothing. Get up early, go to bed at night. 344 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,000 Very, very, very boring. 345 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,960 My motto has always been to stay away from other people. 346 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,400 I always had a small group that I'd hang out with, a few people. 347 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,280 But it's not good to get too involved with people in general. 348 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,880 I don't know, it's all pretty antisocial, 349 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,760 very primitive. 350 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,280 At the very beginning it was all pretty relaxed. 351 00:25:13,360 --> 00:25:16,960 You had one order, then five, then ten orders a day. 352 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,000 The security measures are pretty simple. 353 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,320 You don't meet anyone. 354 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,680 And you have to make sure you don't get caught while mailing them. 355 00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:46,160 Sometimes someone would look and want to mail something. 356 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,560 I stepped aside and said, "Go on. I have so many packages here." 357 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,040 And then no one cares. 358 00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:02,920 At that time it wasn't that common to send drugs through the mail. 359 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,280 It's amazing that you can build 360 00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:08,240 a flourishing drug trade with official mail services. 361 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,200 ROLF JACOB DIRECTOR, LEIPZIG CORRECTIONAL FACILITY 362 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,480 You have to have the idea and then see it through. 363 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,520 Yeah, the Deutsche Post did really good work. 364 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,280 People were ecstatic. 365 00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:22,280 They ordered at 3:00 p.m. and got it the next morning at eight. 366 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,640 They thank you, but it was the postal service that was so fast. 367 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,720 In effect, the mail carriers were my couriers. 368 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,240 In January 2014, so basically in the first month, 369 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,360 I had like ten or 15 thousand euros in sales, which is still a lot. 370 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,040 But over time it grew so much. 371 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,360 You couldn't even imagine it. 372 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,240 From the very start it just took off. 373 00:26:52,120 --> 00:26:54,560 ORDER…, PURCHASED… 374 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:55,840 PURCHASED 6 ITEMS 375 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,360 It kept on growing, and in the summer of 2014 376 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,080 he was already at something like 40 or 50 orders a day. 377 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,480 MDMA 84% PURITY 378 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:05,840 CLEAN METH 379 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,480 Lots of people found the shop searching on Google. 380 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,640 You can see exactly what people searched for. 381 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,760 They searched "buy cocaine" and were on your website. 382 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,760 I simply had everything. 383 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,240 In addition to the street drugs 384 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,240 I sold loads of prescription drugs. 385 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,760 Alprazolam, bromazepam, clonazepam, 386 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:36,200 diazepam, nitrazepam, fentanyl, midazolam, tramadol, zolpidem, 387 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,160 loads of prescription drugs. 388 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,240 ADD TO CART 389 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,280 PURCHASED 13 ITEMS 390 00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:43,720 SHINY XTC - PINK CHUPA CHUPS… 391 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,200 €62.00 VIA BITCOIN 392 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,040 MY WALLET - WELCOME BACK! PLEASE ENTER YOUR LOGIN DETAILS BELOW 393 00:27:51,120 --> 00:27:53,680 LATEST TRANSACTIONS 394 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,240 < 1 MINUTE 395 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,000 Every normal adult is concerned with money. 396 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,200 And, as it is with all of my drug dealers, 397 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,520 they live life in the fast lane. 398 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,720 Whether that's buying handmade shoes or tailored suits. 399 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,680 They really lived it up then. 400 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,520 Max didn't do that at all. 401 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,760 All of the money… 402 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,400 he didn't spend it. 403 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,160 The most fun thing about it was watching it grow. 404 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,160 Big city, small town, 405 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,280 the smallest Bavarian backwater… 406 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:38,880 STANLEY BUSTER HAZE 200 G, XTC R CHUPA 880 407 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,800 DANIEL STROHWALDT KETAMIN 159 G, MDMA 140 G 408 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,800 EVA BRENDELSTEIN HAZE 400 G, SPEED 140 G 409 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,280 JOHANNES SCHMIDT KETAMINE 40, G METH 200 G 410 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,160 Indonesia, China, Australia too, people ordered from all over. 411 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:50,240 INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING 412 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,760 WE SHIP TO THE FOLLOWING COUNTRIES WITHOUT PROBLEMS 413 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,960 GERMANY, AUSTRIA, SWITZERLAND, UNITED KINGDOM, IRELAND… 414 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,560 When you sell drugs online you have a much bigger reach 415 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,360 than if you just stand around in a park. 416 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,000 You can operate worldwide although you're in one spot. 417 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,640 MIGUEL GUERRA SPEED 520 G, XTC GOLD 820 PCS 418 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,920 The most bizarre order was the one from Columbia. 419 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,800 I thought, "They must have enough drugs." 420 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,880 THE BOMB - IT DOESN'T GET ANY BETTER! 421 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,360 THIS POWDER TOPS ALL ELSE. 422 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,640 NO BETTER SPEED AROUND THAN SHINY'S! WORLD CLASS! 423 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,640 VERY NICE… SUPERFAST, WELL PACKAGED, TOP QUALITY 424 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,520 ONLY SHINY FROM NOW ON!!! 425 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,880 10/10 PRODUCTS, LEGIT 426 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,760 HAZEY_666 - JUNE 14, 2014 SUPERFAST AND SUPER SAFE! 427 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,400 SCHICKYMICKY - JUNE 12, 2014 ORDERED ON JUNE 7TH, STILL PROCESSING… 428 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,440 RATED 3 OUT OF 5 429 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,600 THIS SCAMMER WRITES THE GOOD REVIEWS HIMSELF!!!! 430 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,200 GET RID OF THE MINIMUM ORDER VALUE! 70 EUROS?? 431 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,080 ORDERED ON JUNE 7TH, STILL PROCESSING… 432 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,160 SUPERFAST AND SUPER SAFE! 433 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,360 To keep an overview of all of the orders 434 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,160 I had created a very simple list in Excel 435 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,480 because I had to figure out for myself 436 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,440 how exactly to collect that info. 437 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:54,760 TOBIAS HEINZ AMSELWEG 23, 82516 438 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,200 USERNAME, ORDER CONTENTS, ORDER DATE, EMAIL, ADDRESS 439 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,640 DECRYPT/VERIFY NOTEPAD 440 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,280 DANIEL ILGENHOF PACKSTATION 154, 24122 KIEL, GERMANY 441 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:13,640 He did things that didn't correspond to what he'd promised his online customers. 442 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,600 MDMA 70 G 443 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,000 24122 KIEL 444 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,960 In your FAQs you said you wouldn't save customers' names. 445 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,040 Yeah… 446 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,240 That's just one of those things. 447 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,960 At some point I started using the spreadsheet. 448 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,760 Of course I could have just gone to the top row 449 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,760 and deleted January through August. 450 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,200 Nobody needs that now. 451 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,800 But I just didn't do that. 452 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,680 ORDER, FIRST NAME 453 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,320 FIRST NAME, LAST NAME 454 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,760 Maximilian felt safe. 455 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,080 His behavior showed that. 456 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,160 And it went well for a long time. 457 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,440 POLICE 458 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,440 SAXONY POLICE 459 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,160 June 26, 2014. 460 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,240 I rent an apartment in Leipzig. 461 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,960 Today at about 8:15 a.m. 462 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,600 I left my apartment. 463 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,760 At around 12:50 I came back home 464 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:56,240 and I found two A5 envelopes on my mailbox. 465 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,640 Both had "Leipzig Repository" written on them as the sender. 466 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:00,920 RETURN TO SENDER 467 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,320 I don't know a Leipzig Repository on the housing development, 468 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,280 so I took both envelopes with me. 469 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,880 I then called my neighbor and asked him if he had ordered something on eBay. 470 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,520 He said he hadn't. 471 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,600 He looked at the envelopes and said, 472 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,360 "Let's see what's inside." 473 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,640 When they were opened 474 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,000 we determined it contained several gray plastic bags. 475 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,840 After that I promptly informed the police 476 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,120 My colleagues found 100 grams of amphetamines, 477 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,240 a small amount of cocaine 478 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,000 and some ecstasy pills. 479 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,920 You don't think much about it when you find one or two, 480 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,640 but we started identifying more and more such packages 481 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:43,920 across Germany. 482 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,000 TOBIRAMA LANDSCAPE GARDENING 483 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,200 Then we realized that those senders didn't exist. 484 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,480 They were all bogus addresses 485 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,360 RENATE'S ORGANIC SEED & CO, EINLIGSTRASSE 2 486 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,000 SCREW PROS, HEDWIGSTRASSE 9-5 487 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,960 NOT REGISTERED WITH THE TRADE LICENSING OFFICE 488 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,800 Many of them had one thing in common. 489 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,960 They were sent via the mail dispatch center in Radefeld. 490 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,120 That was more or less the first sign that, 491 00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:22,280 "Mm-hmm, could have something to do with Leipzig." 492 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,560 You can't avoid packages being returned. 493 00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:28,600 Then of course the police can find out where it was sent from. 494 00:34:28,679 --> 00:34:30,360 That doesn't lead to me. 495 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,679 Yes, that's correct. 496 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,320 But there are other characteristics. 497 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,040 Who paid for the postage? 498 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,520 But that didn't help us either 499 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,520 because Mr. Schmidt made sure to cover his tracks. 500 00:34:56,159 --> 00:34:59,040 It proved advantageous 501 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:04,520 to be relatively well-versed and connected when it comes to cybercrime. 502 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,120 You needed package pickup stations 503 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:08,640 to receive deliveries. 504 00:35:08,720 --> 00:35:11,720 You needed a postage account to buy stamps. 505 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,440 You needed bank accounts to convert the Bitcoins into cash. 506 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,120 How can I hide my identity? How can I avoid getting caught? 507 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,400 On the street someone can always see you. 508 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,400 On the Internet it's, "Am I leaving traces? 509 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,360 and if I am, in what form?" 510 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,600 Is there a big group behind it? 511 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,520 Are there suppliers who procure the drugs? 512 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:37,920 Are there helpers who send the packages, and so on and so forth? 513 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,800 The investigations they initiated were aimless. 514 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:46,040 I find him evaluating our investigations pretty shameless 515 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,280 because in the end he fell short. 516 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,360 LATEST TRANSACTIONS 517 00:36:56,240 --> 00:36:57,760 FLAKES MOROCCAN SUPER POLM HASH 6… 518 00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,400 OUT OF STOCK… IN STOCK 519 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,240 One thing Maximilian had fun with 520 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,880 was that he always put a little packet of gummy bears 521 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,920 in the envelopes. 522 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,400 Of course people liked that. 523 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:29,840 One guy said, "Great, 524 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,760 first gummy bears, then drugs." 525 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,760 The next one said, "I just sell the drugs, 526 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,960 and then I get the gummy bears." 527 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,000 Basically it was an idea 528 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,160 to add another positive feature to customer service. 529 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,160 It's so simple, but people talked about it. 530 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,760 At first you could order anything. Then someone ordered 17 grams of MDMA. 531 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,360 That's just nuts if you have to package it all. 532 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,720 17, you can't even prepare that much, 533 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,960 unless you take ten, five and two maybe. 534 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,840 You've got those ready You pre-portion things that sell often. 535 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,400 I had to portion out gram per gram per gram at a time. 536 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,320 One gram here, five grams there. 537 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,440 When you measure portions one after the other 538 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,200 you develop a feel for it. 539 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,840 In prison I worked in the kitchen. 540 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:39,720 I had to measure 300 ml of cherry compote for semolina pudding. 541 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,600 That was really easy for me. 542 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,960 This person, in a year or just a bit over a year, 543 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:06,680 actually only lived his life to commit several crimes each day. 544 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:11,680 So he woke up every day and said, "I'm going to continue my crime spree." 545 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,920 It wasn't like he was just selling one pill that day 546 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,800 or ten grams of marijuana, 547 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,160 instead he decided to sell it on a grand scale 548 00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:23,000 and to earn money with it. 549 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,640 Didn't you ever feel guilty about it? 550 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:33,600 About what? 551 00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:36,840 That you were making people addicted or sick? 552 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,920 I didn't really feel guilty about whether it was harming anyone 553 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,960 because for me the logical argumentation was, 554 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,200 "If not from me, then from someone else." 555 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,160 Yes… 556 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,640 in his case, the direct harm is… 557 00:40:07,720 --> 00:40:11,320 If I hit someone I see their smashed up face 558 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,120 or their black eye, or whatever. 559 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,840 In his case the harm is anonymous. 560 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:22,000 And that's why his way of reflecting on it is perhaps different. 561 00:40:49,720 --> 00:40:53,000 SHINY-FLAKES XTC - GREEN CHUPA CHUPS 100 MG - SHINY FLAKES EXCLUSIVE 562 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:54,560 REGULAR PRICE (EUR) 4.00 PUBLISH 563 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,960 The reason I had such cheap prices 564 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:01,160 was that I purchased very large quantities from my suppliers. 565 00:41:01,240 --> 00:41:06,440 And then, over time, I also got the best suppliers into the fold. 566 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,880 DUTCHASTER@JABBER.COM 567 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,480 STATUS: AVAILABLE, SUBSCRIPTION: BOTH 568 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,120 HOW IS BUSINESS? 569 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,720 ANY FEEDBACK ON THE SHINYFLAKES EXCLUSIVES? 570 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:18,880 GREEN CHUPA CHUPS ARE A GREAT AS USUAL 571 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,720 I was in contact with Dutchmasters, for example. 572 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,440 When they brought out a new pill, 573 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,880 in their first batch they would press maybe one to two million pills. 574 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,360 I would order 100,000, 150,000 right away. 575 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,720 Is it even possible for a young man of 19, 20 years old 576 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,920 to run such an operation alone? 577 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,440 We had considerable doubts to the end 578 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,680 because the effort that was put into it, 579 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,560 with all the logistics too, was just too enormous. 580 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,560 WHERE ARE YOU? SEND 581 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,040 WHAT IS TAKING YOU SO LONG? SEND 582 00:42:03,720 --> 00:42:05,920 INFORMATION? SEND 583 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,160 MESSAGE SENT 584 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,280 I'M THERE IN 15 MIN 585 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,680 The courier couldn't know he was basically delivering it to my door. 586 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,440 I said, "Hey, send your guy there, 587 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:26,600 then they'll meet." 588 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,760 I spoke in the third person. 589 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:33,120 I can't say, "I'll come there." That sounds very unprofessional. 590 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,960 And if, say, some 200 kilos arrive at once like that one time, 591 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,160 you have to go up to the fourth floor a few times. 592 00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:45,920 We didn't have an elevator. 593 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,920 DON'T DELIVER PACKAGE TO CHILDREN! 594 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,240 No, I wasn't worried that anyone would steal it. 595 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,800 Even if someone did, they wouldn't say, 596 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,960 "Hey, Police, I found drugs." 597 00:43:05,240 --> 00:43:06,760 At least that's my guess. 598 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,640 He led his own life in that apartment. 599 00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:16,320 And his mother knew nothing about her son. 600 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,600 She didn't know when he got up. She didn't know… 601 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,240 She knew that he cooked. 602 00:43:21,720 --> 00:43:24,880 The only thing she did for him was the laundry. 603 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,760 However, he then folded it in the laundry basket 604 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,040 and took it into his room. 605 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,040 And it's true that his mother actually did not enter 606 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,440 her son's room for over a year. 607 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,000 The investigations showed that he, 608 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,680 independently from his millions in revenue, 609 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,560 actually returned the family's empty bottles. 610 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:47,760 And, 611 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,400 as it turned out, 612 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,880 he got to keep the deposit he got for himself 613 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,960 as a way to supplement his allowance. 614 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,360 Mr. Schmidt was reluctant to speak about his family 615 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,440 and about his nearest relatives. 616 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,320 Perhaps because he wants to be seen as an individual 617 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,680 and not as part of a family, 618 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,200 not as part of a collective. 619 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,440 Because if he did that then that collective 620 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,960 would have to put up with the uncomfortable question 621 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,360 "Why did you turn out the way you did?" 622 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,360 I think he really is ashamed of that. 623 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,840 It's a peculiarity of this case that someone 624 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,240 who wasn't really a criminal before, 625 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,360 or rather wasn't a criminal at all, 626 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,320 was able to use the internet 627 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,840 to in a very short time make himself capable 628 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,240 of committing crimes on this scale. 629 00:44:59,240 --> 00:45:02,600 A psychologist would ask you exactly that very question. 630 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,800 When did you take that step and say, 631 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,040 "Hey, being a criminal is okay." 632 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,000 But that question, 633 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:13,920 at least for me as a 14, 15, 16-year-old, didn't arise in that form. 634 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,080 It isn't comparable to saying, "Hey, I'll rob a bank!" 635 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,160 You feel your way into it slowly. 636 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,840 CRIMENETWORK.BIZ 637 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,880 CRIMENETWORK UNLEASHED SCENE 638 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,880 The first time you visit a website 639 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,480 that is about hacking and online fraud, 640 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,840 it's certainly different than people imagine. 641 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,760 WEBHACKING/WEBSECURITY/ CODING/MALWARE/EXPLOITS 642 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,680 My first experiences on those boards were simply 643 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,880 being among people who think the same. 644 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:57,680 At that time, even as a little guy who wanted to cause a lot of trouble. 645 00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:59,520 QUESTIONS & ANSWERS 646 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,040 HOW DO I STEAL PASSWORDS? 647 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,800 CHECK OUIT THIS TOOL… 648 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,160 You felt drawn into the situation, 649 00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:14,720 as if you were in another world. 650 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:22,360 Planting keyloggers or Trojans on random people's computers 651 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,000 were the first steps. 652 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:28,400 "Ha, I did it!" And now I can watch through his webcam or something. 653 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,360 Just a dumb example. 654 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,440 Usually you'd get your hands on some kind of login data. 655 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,960 Then you had some fun logging in 656 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,120 and deleting his profile or something, trolling around. 657 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,600 Or you go into his eBay account 658 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,800 and put something in it for fun. 659 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,040 When you're 14, 15 you do that kind of stuff, maybe. 660 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,880 There are people like that. Maybe I was one of them. 661 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,680 Actually, there was no point to it. 662 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,640 But you just went and did it. 663 00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:58,560 I mean, you didn't aim to empty his bank account as a first step. 664 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,080 Maybe you develop that idea later 665 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:05,120 when your interest turns to, "Hey, I can make money this way." 666 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,800 This is basically his application. 667 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,120 résumé… 668 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,200 Yeah, his cover letter. 669 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,600 "Hardworking, punctual, conscientious." 670 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,640 RÉSUMÉ 671 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,080 I left school and I thought, "I have to do something." 672 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,000 And then I started working as a waiter 673 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,600 because I knew I'd get a job right away. 674 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,720 I kind of had fun being a waiter, because you're close to people. 675 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,520 People always said to me, "That's not your thing." 676 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:54,960 But it was so distanced 677 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,080 because of the service procedure. 678 00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,600 Okay, a guest is coming. "Hello." Be friendly, yada, yada. 679 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,360 Seat them, do this, do that. It's actually a simple job. 680 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,960 He accepted authority. 681 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:07,840 MAURO BARTOLINI OWNER DON CAMILLO & PEPPONE 682 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,880 But only from people where he knew full well, 683 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,800 "They know and can do more than me." 684 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,600 Otherwise he never accepted authority. 685 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,560 Everything that was done often, for everyone, 686 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,960 things that were done at a relaxed tempo, 687 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,200 were boring, they weren't his thing. 688 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,800 He always wanted to move quickly, 689 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,520 to make quick progress. 690 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,680 He wanted to be first. He was meticulous. 691 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:42,400 That's why his colleagues who weren't perfect bothered him. 692 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,640 He said we need perfection here 693 00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:47,120 and we need it from the whole team. 694 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:48,560 He was unforgiving. 695 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:49,960 SILVIA BARTOLINI OWNER DON CAMILLO & PEPPONE 696 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,480 If someone didn't work like Max pictured it. 697 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,160 I didn't have to do a thing. Max took care of it. 698 00:48:55,240 --> 00:48:56,720 He said, 699 00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,680 "Fix it. Do it better." 700 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,920 That is a classic example of hubris. 701 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,480 We said, "What do you do in the evenings? Do you go out, go to the club? 702 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,080 What do you do at home?" 703 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,040 He said, "I sit at my laptop 704 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:41,760 and I do stuff." 705 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,720 Yeah? But, of course, he didn't say exactly what he was doing. 706 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,560 USERNAME APATE 707 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:52,240 LOGIN 708 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,240 APATE 709 00:49:55,880 --> 00:50:01,560 My profile picture on Crimenetwork was Kim Jong-un, the North Korean dictator. 710 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,680 He's cool. I mean, the way he looks. 711 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,600 No idea about what he does in North Korea. 712 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,840 There are various levels on Crimenetwork. 713 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,200 There's newly registered users, then the first and second levels. 714 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,800 And you have the moderators, 715 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,120 the administrators who run the board. 716 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,680 And then there's also an elite level. 717 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,320 MODERATOR, TRIAL-MOD, ELITE… 718 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,480 I was practically a category unto myself. 719 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,160 MAX 720 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,640 How did you achieve that status? 721 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,600 Hard to say, because that involves earlier things. 722 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:50,720 What is said to have happened before isn't relevant to me. 723 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,760 This is about drugs, and it'll stay that way. 724 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,480 CRIMENETWORK.BIZ, MEMBERS, SHOUTBOX 725 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,760 LIBRARY OF THE BASICS INSTRUCTIONS ON GETTING STARTED 726 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,280 FRAUD EARN MONEY WITH STOLEN LOANS 727 00:51:06,720 --> 00:51:09,400 It was a refuge for him. He was somebody there. 728 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,120 He had an importance there. 729 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,440 People talked about him there. 730 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,560 They considered him to be a big stud. 731 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,000 All of that flattered him. He liked all of that. 732 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:26,080 It was his world, where he got the recognition he seemed to be missing. 733 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,560 -Would you have liked him to stay on? -Of course. 734 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,800 I did it for about a year and a half. 735 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,960 Then there was this instance 736 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,560 where the boss herself gave us our assignments. 737 00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,800 I was already in a bad mood that day. 738 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,440 She came up to me and said, 739 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,560 "Mr. Schmidt, if you don't want to work you can go home." 740 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,920 Right. "Okay, then I'll go." And I left. 741 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,400 Because at that moment I didn't exactly need the money. 742 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,120 And, because I was so young, 743 00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:00,160 the thing that brings us here today happened very quickly. 744 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,800 Max will open his own wonderful restaurant one day. 745 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,600 Or he'll open a really nice chic bar. 746 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,160 Max was born, 747 00:52:09,240 --> 00:52:12,080 almost from the moment he came in here, to be a boss. 748 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,200 That should be his goal. That's what we thought, yes. 749 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,520 But he did get his own store. 750 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:20,960 Yes. 751 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,960 We had various approaches to the investigation. 752 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:56,920 In Baden-Württemberg 753 00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,240 a similar package was found. 754 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,840 The measures our colleagues there carried out 755 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,520 indicated the recipient of this package 756 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,600 browsed a particular site very frequently. 757 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,200 …THAT THE ACCUSED OFTEN VISITED THE SITE WWW.SHINY-FLAKES.CC: 758 00:53:21,240 --> 00:53:24,200 Then we knew about the existence of the page. 759 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,240 We were shocked. 760 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,960 Someone was very brazenly dealing narcotics 761 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,360 on the freely accessible Internet. 762 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:33,800 PRINT 763 00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:41,320 You look through the site from start to finish. 764 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,760 We didn't actually plan on it, but it is standard for an online shop, 765 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:51,080 even legally required to have company information listed. 766 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,400 WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR? TIME TO PARTY! 767 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:58,240 COMPANY INFORMATION OR SIMILAR NOTICES… HAVE NOT BEEN FOUND YET. 768 00:53:58,320 --> 00:53:59,440 HOW CAN I GET IN CONTACT WITH YOU? 769 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,160 Where is this shop registered? 770 00:54:01,240 --> 00:54:04,400 Where is the shop's domain registered? 771 00:54:05,240 --> 00:54:08,520 Always with the aim of finding the beginning of the thread. 772 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,280 We figured out where the server was. 773 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:14,920 SAXONY BCI GERMANY 774 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:16,760 SERVER NETHERLANDS 775 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:23,720 It was all linked upstream to an encryption provider in the USA. 776 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,840 CLOUDFLARE SAN FRANCISCO, CA 777 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,800 The provider Cloudflare was primarily there 778 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:33,840 so if the website is attacked by competitors or other people 779 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,520 the website stays online. 780 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,920 It only shows incompetence to claim it was used for concealment, 781 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,400 although it had a technical purpose. 782 00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,480 We enquired there. 783 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,440 He stated that he would inform the person in question 784 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,280 about the police's activities accordingly. 785 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,840 …NOTIFY USERS OF REQUEST FOR THEIR INFORMATION PRIOR TO DISCLOSURE… 786 00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:00,600 We didn't want that. 787 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:05,280 PRINT 788 00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,560 INVESTIGATIONS INTO THIS ARE FUTILE. 789 00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:11,000 The investigating authorities reached their limits. 790 00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,720 A letter comes from California asking, "Who are you? Leipzig DA's office?" 791 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,080 "We're not interested at all." 792 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,800 Whether you were a police officer or a hacker or whatever, 793 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:22,720 if you had something against it 794 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,640 you couldn't do anything, the site worked. 795 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,480 I had to, and I'll admit this, laugh. 796 00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,960 Because that is quite the coup. 797 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:35,880 Not everyone can manage that. 798 00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,480 Well, you do feel powerless. 799 00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,560 And you have to realize 800 00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:46,280 that the firepower of perpetrators and of law enforcement isn't equal. 801 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:51,080 The reason is simply because we lack legal options, 802 00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,800 and because the perpetrators have superior options. 803 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:59,600 And yet we always had more leads that we could continue to follow. 804 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:44,920 Around the end of December 2014 it got to be a bit too much for me. 805 00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:01,320 Small things, 806 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,040 any kind of server problems 807 00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,480 or problems sending emails, 808 00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:10,040 the device for sealing aluminum bags breaking, 809 00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,360 lost packages that you worried about, 810 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,720 all those things threw me out of my rhythm. 811 00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:22,040 And due to that a backlog slowly but surely started to build up. 812 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:30,480 It led to me 813 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:35,680 making these gigantic helpings of pasta with meat sauce, 814 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,040 and then to me just… 815 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,360 eating at six in the morning or at four in the afternoon. 816 00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,800 When you no longer have a set daily rhythm 817 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,560 and are just packaging up cocaine from 12:00 a.m. to 6:00 a.m. 818 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,240 then it's neither healthy nor effective. 819 00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,920 Sometimes, and he said it credibly, 820 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:04,000 he slept only three or four hours to keep up with his packaging. 821 00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:09,280 Whether he still thought it was a game is something I couldn't say. 822 00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:30,800 WHERE IS MY SHIT? 823 00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:31,880 WHERE'S MY ORDER, YOU… 824 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:33,720 THIRD COMPLAINT - GOODS STILL NOT HERE 825 00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:34,840 I'M WAITING 826 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:36,160 LOST… !!!!????!!!!!!!!!! 827 00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:37,920 GETTING NEW MAIL 828 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,680 YOU ARE WAITING 14 DAYS ON YOUR ORDER: IT IS BEING TAKEN CARE OF! 829 00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:41,680 FAQ (ENGLISH) 830 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,160 BE PATIENT 831 00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,520 EVERY OTHER REQUEST WILL BE IGNORED 832 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,920 At the end I had maybe 15,000 orders 833 00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,200 and 150 orders a day 834 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,600 and at the peak 100,000 euros in sales on one day. 835 00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,600 Who knows where it could've led? 836 00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:06,840 But in the end I was still alone. 837 00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,680 What I had to do was just too much. 838 00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,560 I didn't question whether it made sense. 839 01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,600 There were no doubts. There was no room for that. 840 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,280 I really didn't think about it at that time, 841 01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:09,920 not until I was in prison. 842 01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,560 Yeah, it was like being in a hamster wheel. 843 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:20,200 It just kept going. No matter how fast you run, or how slowly. 844 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:12,200 Because I constantly shipped from different locations, 845 01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,520 it's just impossible to trace that. 846 01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:19,120 Even if you trace the postmark and can see which mailbox it was dropped in, 847 01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:23,200 with the 50 or 100 mailboxes you have in a city like Leipzig 848 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,320 you can go to a different one every day. 849 01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,840 Are the police supposed to monitor every mailbox? 850 01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,960 UNIDENTIFIED MALE PERSON (UMP) 851 01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:41,880 IMAGE 2 UMP COLLECTING A PACKAGE FROM PACKAGE COMPARTMENT 852 01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:45,280 IMAGE 4 UMP REMOVING A FURTHER PACKAGE FROM PACKAGE COMPARTMENT 853 01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:49,880 We were able to trace it. 854 01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:55,240 It's certainly true that he was careful about it. 855 01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,280 But he also didn't know that he was being surveilled. 856 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:00,960 That's the point of surveillance. 857 01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:05,400 IMAGE 7 UMP HOLDING REMOVED PACKAGE IN HANDS 858 01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:21,520 During the psychological evaluation I asked him why he got caught 859 01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,320 and his answer was, "It wasn't my fault, 860 01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:29,000 it was because someone didn't do their job properly." 861 01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,120 Someone he was associated with. 862 01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:37,000 This again shows the attitude "I can only rely on myself." 863 01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:40,400 But he did in fact need a couple of contacts. 864 01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,200 And that's where he stumbled. 865 01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,160 THEY ARRESTED RED BULL AND HIS PEOPLE 866 01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:54,600 I ASSUME THEY HAD BEEN WATCHING HIM FOR A LONG TIME 867 01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,880 WHO WERE THE OTHER PEOPLE? 868 01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:05,120 WAS THE GUY WHO DROVE ACROSS GERMANY FOR US ONE OF THEM? 869 01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:11,880 AKIHA@JABBIM.CZ IS TYPING… 870 01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:15,320 THE COPS KEPT HIM IN CUSTODY FOR ONE DAY 871 01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,360 AND THEN LET HIM GO 872 01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:18,840 I DON'T GET THAT. 873 01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:24,800 MAYBE AS BAIT 874 01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:28,080 MAYBE THE COPS WILL LAY OFF NOW 875 01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:31,520 BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY HAVE THE MAIN SUSPECT IN CUSTODY 876 01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:33,920 MAYBE NOT THOUGH 877 01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:37,160 BETTER SAFE THAN SORRY 878 01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:39,600 I don't know what mistakes redbull made 879 01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:41,960 to get the police on his tail, 880 01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:43,600 but I do know 881 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,680 that they then found me as a result. 882 01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,440 In the files, it said 883 01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:50,280 that… 884 01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,760 they followed him to where he dropped off the mail, 885 01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:58,680 and they saw a lot of large, suspicious packages being sent to Leipzig. 886 01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:02,080 Then they followed up on those because it was unusual. 887 01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:03,680 and that's how they got 888 01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:08,000 to the package pickup station that I often used. 889 01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:12,560 There were undercover investigations, there was surveillance. 890 01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,120 There was telephone surveillance. 891 01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:16,920 It was the whole nine yards. 892 01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:34,560 TIME OF RECORDING FEBRUARY 18, 2015 4:57 P.M. 893 01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:50,960 On February 26, 2015 I got out of bed relatively late. 894 01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,400 I think it was at about ten o'clock 895 01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:58,200 because I was busy until late into the night, with work. 896 01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:03,640 And I think at about eleven or twelve o'clock the courier came. 897 01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,040 Up until the end we assumed 898 01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,760 that it must have been several people. 899 01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,600 That someone could manage it on their own, 900 01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,720 that seemed relatively impossible to us. 901 01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,000 They assumed 902 01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:35,840 that criminal groups like that are usually armed. 903 01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,240 I think around two o'clock 904 01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:19,920 I heard drilling. 905 01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,520 And I asked myself, "Who is drilling? 906 01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,600 It sounds pretty nearby. Oh, well." 907 01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:33,600 Police! 908 01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,560 Police! Don't move! 909 01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:37,520 -Don't move! -Hands in the air! 910 01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,120 I didn't feel scared, 911 01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:44,440 what I felt was more disbelief that it was all happening. 912 01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:50,480 How can this be? How did they find me? 913 01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:52,600 Quiet! 914 01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:54,560 Why would they be here for me? 915 01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:13,400 But it was clear pretty quickly that they were here for me. 916 01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:20,960 -Good. Thank you! -Great. 917 01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:22,400 And cut. 918 01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:27,600 That was great. 919 01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:30,440 -Yeah, I thought so too. -You all right? 920 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,040 I'm glad that it went smoothly. 921 01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:37,760 But it was super unsettling, because it's all so surreal. 922 01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:42,000 You wait and you know what's coming. And it's a bad memory. 923 01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,800 -Yeah. -That's a good word. Bad memory. 924 01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:47,200 -Yes. -That's good. 925 01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,000 But I can laugh about it now. Great! 926 01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:58,040 I don't know. On the one hand it's unpleasant. 927 01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:00,960 But on the other hand it's a bit like… 928 01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:04,240 Well, it's a bit like exposure therapy, I'd say. 929 01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:09,040 Each time I hear "police" shouted it gets a bit more relaxed. 930 01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:17,240 Masked men with machine guns in my room 931 01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:19,960 smacked me across the face with the machine gun, 932 01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:22,560 threw me on the ground and handcuffed me. 933 01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:26,960 Then they walked over me several times. 934 01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,760 Probably because there was so little space, 935 01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:32,640 but also because it was probably fun for them. 936 01:08:34,319 --> 01:08:38,000 So, yeah, and I just lay there for what felt like an hour. 937 01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:43,479 That's his view of things. He probably dreamt it up that way. 938 01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:46,760 Some of it will have actually taken place. 939 01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:48,040 But guaranteeing 940 01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:51,279 that's just how it happened would be unusual. 941 01:08:51,359 --> 01:08:54,200 An arrest just isn't something 942 01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:59,080 where you say, "Lie down and be nice and quiet 943 01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,319 and put your hands on your back." 944 01:09:01,399 --> 01:09:03,800 You go in and seize the suspect. 945 01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:25,279 POLICE 946 01:09:25,359 --> 01:09:26,520 EXHIBIT 59 …RED PILLS 947 01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:28,840 The dealer, an only 20-year-old man, 948 01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:30,359 sold the drugs online. 949 01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:32,880 In addition to marijuana, LSD and hash 950 01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,560 he also sold prescription drugs. 951 01:09:41,279 --> 01:09:44,479 Drug dealing 2.0. This is unparalleled in Germany. 952 01:09:45,319 --> 01:09:48,920 One of the biggest drug seizures ever made in Germany. 953 01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:52,880 IMAGE 191 - EXHIBIT 182 CARDS, ID CARDS, CELL PHONES… 954 01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:54,600 (PHONES AND CARDS SECURED BY BCI) 955 01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:58,399 IMAGE 86 - OVERVIEW SHOT - EXHIBITS 96 - 103 956 01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:00,440 IMAGE 133 - EXHIBIT 136 - MONEY ON SHELF 957 01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:03,240 At the time our colleagues reported, 958 01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:07,520 "Yes, there is a whole load of narcotics in one room." 959 01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:11,200 Of course, we asked, "What do you mean by 'a whole load?'" 960 01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:14,040 They said it was ten or 20 kilos. 961 01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:18,320 And then it was 100 kilos. 962 01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:28,240 And 15 minutes later when my colleagues asked for a delivery van 963 01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:29,600 we knew 964 01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:34,440 that it was over 100 kilos of drugs that we had seized from that room. 965 01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:37,280 Orders worth roughly four million. 966 01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:39,800 A tonne. 967 01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:41,520 We're talking about a tonne. 968 01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:50,880 I think in Leipzig 969 01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:53,320 a few champagne corks popped that day. 970 01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:05,240 We were proud of the success of our investigation. 971 01:11:09,480 --> 01:11:11,440 When I was still at home 972 01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:16,000 a police officer came to my room and stood in the doorframe 973 01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:17,560 and just said, 974 01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:20,760 "Ten years." 975 01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:22,320 And he went away again. 976 01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:25,200 That was the first indicator 977 01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:27,240 of where things were heading. 978 01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:43,440 The judges have read their verdict. 979 01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:46,480 He was sentenced to seven years in juvenile prison 980 01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:50,720 and must restitute three million euros to the state for drug business revenue. 981 01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,480 That is the verdict of Leipzig State Court. 982 01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,000 It is a serious crime, the judge said. 983 01:11:56,080 --> 01:12:00,520 Allowances were made for the 20-year-old for having made a full confession 984 01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:04,600 and because expert witnesses attested to his emotional immaturity. 985 01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:06,680 That is why he was given a juvenile sentence. 986 01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:10,080 If there is doubt about someone's moral maturity, 987 01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:12,840 and in my view that was the case with him, 988 01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:14,680 then… 989 01:12:15,440 --> 01:12:17,320 it is appropriate 990 01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:21,440 to refrain from sentencing a person as an adult. 991 01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:32,000 At first I was extremely impressed 992 01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:34,160 when I saw the prison. 993 01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:41,200 Then I was overcome with a feeling of calm and relaxation. 994 01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:43,120 I was able to switch off 995 01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:46,400 for the first time after months of working nonstop. 996 01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:02,160 I don't know where that feeling came from, but it was good. 997 01:14:05,440 --> 01:14:09,000 I have never gotten a sense of regret or guilt from him. 998 01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:10,920 In general, to me, he seemed 999 01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:14,960 fairly relaxed, and fairly controlled too. 1000 01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:17,400 And he seemed collected. 1001 01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:20,320 Not very emotionally involved. 1002 01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:24,440 And there was this hint of pride in his eyes. 1003 01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:28,000 When the news came at six o'clock on RTL, or wherever else, 1004 01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:32,480 and they said something about 300 kilos of drugs 1005 01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:36,400 and mentioned a Maximilian who is now in detention in Leipzig 1006 01:14:36,480 --> 01:14:38,880 the entire prison flipped out. 1007 01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:41,680 Everyone banged on the bars and went, "Hey! 1008 01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:43,680 He's here! 1009 01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:45,720 Who is he?" 1010 01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:48,720 But, basically, they all reveled in it. 1011 01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:52,560 #FREEZ #FREESHINY LEGENDS MUST BE FREE. #FREESHINYFLAKES 1012 01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:54,640 I LIKE #SHINYFLAKES SHAME HE GOT BUSTED 1013 01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:56,000 #FREESHINYFLAKES 1014 01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:58,920 for him it was about fame. It was about honor and glory. 1015 01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:02,640 LEGENDARY SHINY FLAKES T-SHIRT €9.64 - FREE DELIVERY IN GERMANY 1016 01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:05,160 "LIBERATION COMMANDO" AIMS TO BREAK DEALER OUT OF JAIL 1017 01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:08,840 "FREE SHINY COMMANDO" WANTED TO FREE MAXIMILIAN S. FROM LEIPZIG PRISON 1018 01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:10,400 THE BEST TOO BAD HE GOT CAUGHT 1019 01:15:10,480 --> 01:15:11,800 RIDICULOUS SENDING HIM TO JAIL FOR SO LONG 1020 01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:17,320 1 TONNE OF DRUGS IN HIS ROOM AT HIS PARENTS' HOUSE 1021 01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:21,240 THE DRUG BARON'S CUSTOMERS ARE SHAKING IN THEIR SHOES 1022 01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:39,040 An aim of the search wasn't just to seize the drugs or to find cash 1023 01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:44,240 but to find indications about how we could get into the computer. 1024 01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:51,320 Seeing as the perpetrator, Mr. Schmidt in this case, 1025 01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:55,680 tried everything possible to ensure that we couldn't access the data, 1026 01:15:55,760 --> 01:16:00,240 it really was a banner achievement of our computer forensics team 1027 01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:02,000 to manage it after all. 1028 01:16:02,480 --> 01:16:04,360 And how did they manage it? 1029 01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:13,920 LOCKED 1030 01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:17,000 Whether it's a banner achievement of Computer Forensics 1031 01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:20,960 to go through my documents and find my password written down… 1032 01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:23,640 If that's a banner achievement, then, hurrah! 1033 01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:25,640 It was just dumb luck. 1034 01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:27,400 Well, there was… 1035 01:16:27,480 --> 01:16:29,800 Yes, under a pile of trash 1036 01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:31,560 a little bit of paper appeared. 1037 01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:34,960 Luckily the investigators noticed it. 1038 01:16:35,440 --> 01:16:41,040 And that piece of paper had the uncrackable password written on it. 1039 01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:43,200 It was very, very long. 1040 01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:53,480 I didn't answer the question at the press conference, correct. 1041 01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:57,360 The reason was simply that 1042 01:16:57,440 --> 01:17:00,880 I didn't want to lead other perpetrators to believe 1043 01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:04,400 that we had no options and that we're helpless. 1044 01:17:04,480 --> 01:17:07,800 Of course, things like carelessness… 1045 01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:11,600 I'll say, the human factor, human error, play into our hands. 1046 01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:20,360 The shop was online from late December 2013 1047 01:17:20,440 --> 01:17:23,840 until, effectively, the end of February 2015. 1048 01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,840 SUSPICIOUSLY GOOD JOBS SAXONY POLICE 1049 01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:34,040 From that time on the police had access to the website 1050 01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:36,120 and used it for self-promotion. 1051 01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:38,200 I don't know if that's even legal. 1052 01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:40,280 Maybe I should file a claim. 1053 01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:47,280 DUDE, WHAT AN IDIOT… 1054 01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:50,040 NO ONE KNOWS IF THERE'S EVEN A DATABASE. I CAN HARLDY IMAGINE IT. 1055 01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:53,000 HOW CAN YOU ORDER DRUGS WITH YOUR REAL-LIFE ADDRESS?? 1056 01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:55,000 I ORDERED THERE BUT DIDN'T PAY. 1057 01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:58,200 I'M IN BAVARIA AND AM SCARED. WHAT CAN HAPPEN TO ME? 1058 01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:05,840 ORDERS 1059 01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:10,120 The order list that they found 1060 01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:13,960 contained roughly 13,000 or 14,000 datasets. 1061 01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,280 So that's 13,000 or 14,000 shipments. 1062 01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:25,280 Of course, it was a great stroke of luck for the investigators. 1063 01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:27,000 They had specific data. 1064 01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:30,240 They knew the addresses, they knew the names 1065 01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:32,360 and they knew what they had ordered. 1066 01:18:32,440 --> 01:18:35,040 Sure they were happy about it. They were thrilled. 1067 01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:45,480 At first I didn't realize the extent of it 1068 01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:47,120 because no one told me, 1069 01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:51,600 "Hey, we've initiated 4,000 or so criminal proceedings." 1070 01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:53,760 Instead, at some point, 1071 01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:56,920 summons started arriving saying, "You are summoned as a witness." 1072 01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:02,760 Even before my own trial was over I was summoned as a witness. 1073 01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:06,320 For every court date he was taken to 1074 01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:09,480 there is an extra form that has to be filled out. 1075 01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:11,440 This is the sixth volume. 1076 01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:16,120 You can see how much paper he created while in prison. 1077 01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:21,840 JUNE 2019 1078 01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:25,520 WITNESS APPOINTMENT FOR CUSTOMER TRIAL 1079 01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:30,800 -Hola. -You have an appointment? 1080 01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:32,440 -Yep. -Good. 1081 01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:45,200 Hello, Mr. Schmidt. Unfortunately the hearing is over. 1082 01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:48,480 He gave a full confession, 1083 01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:50,880 so we no longer need your testimony. 1084 01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:52,960 -Great. -That was not foreseeable. 1085 01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:54,400 Yeah, like always. 1086 01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:57,240 -You've travelled a long way. -Yo. 1087 01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:00,400 -But you'll receive compensation. -Great. 1088 01:20:00,480 --> 01:20:02,520 If you give me the summons I can sign it. 1089 01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:04,840 I'll need to have that printed out. 1090 01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:08,440 -You don't have it with you? -No, I lost it. 1091 01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:10,760 -Okay, we can do that. -Great. 1092 01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:13,480 -Okay, where is it? -You are here now. 1093 01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:15,800 -Up ahead and then take a right. -Who do I see? 1094 01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:17,880 You have to sign in downstairs. 1095 01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:21,280 Great! 1096 01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:27,440 I don't understand a word. 1097 01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,640 You were summoned as a witness for a hearing? 1098 01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:31,760 Yes. 1099 01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:37,080 -And where is the summons? -Lost, so I need a new compensation form. 1100 01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:38,840 Who told you that? 1101 01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:41,720 The guy at the entrance over by the district court. 1102 01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:42,760 The guy? 1103 01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:44,480 I don't know his name. 1104 01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:49,200 -Some guy in a uniform. -You have to have the form printed out. 1105 01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:51,360 But by the proper department. 1106 01:20:51,440 --> 01:20:55,760 You can't print it here? I have to run around because you're badly organized. 1107 01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:58,280 That's the support department. We can't do it! 1108 01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:00,000 Right. 1109 01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:06,640 How annoying. This stuff makes you sick. 1110 01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:14,280 Was that maybe a crime instrument? 1111 01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:20,280 I've been called as a witness in hundreds of proceedings. 1112 01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:24,400 In the end the result was that I was always travelling. 1113 01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:27,280 I couldn't receive visitors, 1114 01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:29,160 couldn't do my laundry. 1115 01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:33,440 I couldn't receive any letters since I was away from my facility. 1116 01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:35,240 Completely isolated. 1117 01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:38,040 I'm tearing up. 1118 01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:42,600 No sympathy? 1119 01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:43,600 Nope. 1120 01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:46,960 One day you'll know why. 1121 01:21:57,480 --> 01:22:00,800 I saw a TV crew. I checked what he looks like on Google. 1122 01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:03,360 Then I saw that the face matches. 1123 01:22:03,440 --> 01:22:05,680 I knew he was coming here due to me anyway. 1124 01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:07,560 You can't cancel that quickly. 1125 01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:10,080 Yeah, I admitted it, that's why. 1126 01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:12,200 It only took half an hour. 1127 01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:14,680 And what did you get? 1128 01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:16,320 Three years of probation. 1129 01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:18,080 A 1,000 euro fine. 1130 01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:20,320 -Not bad. -It was all right. 1131 01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:24,360 Did they say it was so long ago and you haven't been in trouble again? 1132 01:22:24,440 --> 01:22:26,240 -Nice guy. -That's right. 1133 01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:29,800 -Not a troublemaker. -Well, they couldn't prove I was selling. 1134 01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:31,840 More of a buyers' cooperative. 1135 01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:34,080 How much was the hearing about? 1136 01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:35,840 Four kilos of speed, 1137 01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:38,600 100 grams of MDMA, cocaine, yeah. 1138 01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:42,520 -Then you got off easy. -Yes, I got off very easy. 1139 01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:45,200 Yeah. 1140 01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:52,360 A buyers' cooperative. 1141 01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:57,240 That's why… It was for personal use. That's what they said. 1142 01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:02,160 -Very good. -Really lucky, yeah. 1143 01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:04,960 You're on day release now? 1144 01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:05,880 Yeah. 1145 01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:07,840 -I get out next month. -Okay. 1146 01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:09,440 So it was worth it, right? 1147 01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:10,800 I think so. 1148 01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:16,280 Did they find all the Bitcoins? 1149 01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:19,320 I don't know. They say there's more. 1150 01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:21,160 I say there isn't. 1151 01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:23,960 It's kind of a standoff. No one really knows what… 1152 01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:26,800 -Okay. -…really knows what… 1153 01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:30,600 -I have to get off. All the best. -Take care. 1154 01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:32,360 Don't cause trouble. 1155 01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:34,200 Bye-bye! 1156 01:23:42,440 --> 01:23:44,560 That was one of the questions. 1157 01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:48,760 It remained throughout the investigation and the main trial 1158 01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:51,160 as well as in the aftermath. 1159 01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:52,880 Where did all the money go? 1160 01:23:55,760 --> 01:24:00,640 INCOME SHINY_FLAKES INCOME FROM 12 WALLETS 1161 01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:06,720 15188.03 BTC / €4,169,191.41!!! 1162 01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:11,920 The revenue from the opened wallets amounted to 350,000 euros. 1163 01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:13,920 In the end, yes. 1164 01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:16,400 We admit we couldn't open two wallets. 1165 01:24:16,480 --> 01:24:18,160 What's inside? 1166 01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:19,720 We don't know. 1167 01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:22,360 That many people can't imagine 1168 01:24:22,440 --> 01:24:26,320 that money having vanished somehow or other 1169 01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:29,400 and believe it was hidden somewhere 1170 01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:32,640 is very understandable. 1171 01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:45,200 They form an opinion and say, "Of course there's money in there." 1172 01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,080 No one can prove it, no one can trace it. 1173 01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:51,920 If I had access I could say, "Here, look, there's nothing in it." 1174 01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:56,080 If I had access and there was money in it, I'd hardly show it. 1175 01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:07,480 Max isn't rich, no. I don't believe that. 1176 01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:18,000 What stops you from saying, 1177 01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:20,920 "I don't have one cent of it." 1178 01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:23,720 Yes, one could say that. 1179 01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:27,800 -It's not a lie? -One could say that. 1180 01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:35,840 One can say that. 1181 01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:44,120 But we only go public with the truth. 1182 01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:46,320 Yeah. 1183 01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:48,280 So? Is there still money in it? 1184 01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:51,120 Well, there's not a cent in that wallet. 1185 01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:53,360 I know that much. 1186 01:25:53,440 --> 01:25:55,200 Do you still have any of that money? 1187 01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:56,480 I don't think so. No. 1188 01:25:59,920 --> 01:26:03,240 That business got me experience and wasted time. 1189 01:26:04,440 --> 01:26:05,280 Not a cent? 1190 01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:06,640 Not a cent. 1191 01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:11,880 We'll see what the future brings. 1192 01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:15,600 What does that mean? 1193 01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:21,280 We're watching to see if he commits further crimes. 1194 01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:23,760 He's outside on parole. 1195 01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:25,760 If there is cause… 1196 01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:27,480 But, for example, 1197 01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:32,320 if he uses his knowledge and the monetary means he certainly still has 1198 01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:34,240 to commit further crimes. 1199 01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:38,560 Do you have concrete suspicions? 1200 01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:40,240 I won't comment on that. 1201 01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:43,000 So yes. 1202 01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:04,240 JUNE 2020 1203 01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:07,840 ONE YEAR OF FREEDOM 1204 01:27:14,480 --> 01:27:19,480 Since my arrest I was in prison for four years and seven months. 1205 01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:24,040 They have procedures to decide 1206 01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:27,520 if your conduct has been good, if resocialization prospects are good. 1207 01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:32,800 Then an evaluator says, "Okay, things seem to be moving in the right direction. 1208 01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:35,240 We'll give him a chance to get out earlier." 1209 01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:40,200 Do you have plans? 1210 01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:43,040 I'm working at a car lot right now. 1211 01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:46,160 Is that true? 1212 01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:47,240 Yes. 1213 01:27:51,440 --> 01:27:52,720 What do you do there? 1214 01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:56,200 These are detailed questions. 1215 01:27:58,120 --> 01:27:59,400 Car stuff. 1216 01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:04,920 Yeah, well, 1217 01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:06,960 office stuff. 1218 01:28:07,440 --> 01:28:08,840 At the car lot. 1219 01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:41,720 We're going to go to the Reichstag. 1220 01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:46,680 Cheers! 1221 01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:48,520 Cheers. 1222 01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:50,640 It worked well. 1223 01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:54,360 Max swiped me left at first. 1224 01:28:54,440 --> 01:28:58,000 -Then he thought, "She's pretty cute." -I could rewind. 1225 01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:00,600 I could decide, "Shit, I do want her after all." 1226 01:29:02,480 --> 01:29:04,160 I was like, "Ah! 1227 01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:05,920 "Gone. Actually, not." 1228 01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:08,880 We had an ice cream 1229 01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:12,320 and then we went to a stationery store 1230 01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:15,960 because my girlfriend needed stamps for an important letter. 1231 01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:19,520 Then I showed off my postage knowledge 1232 01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:23,680 and said, "That little stamp isn't enough for that large format envelope." 1233 01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:27,320 That's right! I thought about that afterwards. 1234 01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:31,040 Like, "He sure knows a lot about this." Oh, yeah. 1235 01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:35,280 How can it be that he didn't say a word about it the entire time? 1236 01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:38,320 You don't have to come on like gangbusters. 1237 01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:41,320 It'll come out sooner or later. 1238 01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:44,840 It definitely comes up in every conversation. 1239 01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:47,760 Who Max is, what he's been through. 1240 01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:49,320 It always goes over well. 1241 01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:51,960 So, Max, thanks for having a very good story. 1242 01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:54,640 -Sure thing. It was my pleasure. -Yeah. 1243 01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:59,000 Do you have a story you tell people when they ask what you do? 1244 01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:00,560 Or do you just say… 1245 01:30:01,480 --> 01:30:04,240 Yeah, sure, I work at a car lot, so… 1246 01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:05,840 Really? Is that your story? 1247 01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:07,200 -Yeah. -Okay. 1248 01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:09,920 Okay. 1249 01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:15,440 -He hems and haws a lot. -Yes. 1250 01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:18,600 And he doesn't want to say much, and that's okay. 1251 01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:21,280 I don't keep on prying. 1252 01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:23,760 He doesn't have to talk if he doesn't want to. 1253 01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:25,800 How important is it for you to have friends? 1254 01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:28,400 Oh, kind of important. 1255 01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:33,560 Wow! 1256 01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:36,240 Dude, I could answer that for you better. 1257 01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:42,120 An assist. 1258 01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:46,160 Right off Max always asks, "Do you want more to drink? An ice cream? 1259 01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:49,520 I'll get it for you. What do you want to eat? We'll cook." 1260 01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:51,840 Yeah, it's really nice. Yeah. 1261 01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:54,680 We have to teach Max to ride a bike. 1262 01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:56,680 That's on our to-do list this summer. 1263 01:30:56,760 --> 01:31:00,120 I mean, sometimes you save things for later. 1264 01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:04,040 And so this year I'll learn how to ride a bike. 1265 01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:06,920 I never had a bike. That's why. 1266 01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:11,040 Do you worry that something else could happen? 1267 01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:13,160 No. 1268 01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:15,000 I mean, he's a sweetheart. 1269 01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:18,280 I don't think anything will happen. 1270 01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:20,600 He'll stay with me. 1271 01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:28,880 His mother would probably say that too, that he's the sweetest guy on earth. 1272 01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:31,680 I consider him to be someone 1273 01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:35,920 who'll very carefully weigh up which risks he'll take going forward. 1274 01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:37,720 In my estimation 1275 01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:40,120 he won't commit a second offense. 1276 01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:43,760 The next question is speculative at this point. 1277 01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:46,520 Does he even need to engage in criminal activity again? 1278 01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:24,600 DRUG RAID IN LEIPZIG: COCAINE AND CASH SEIZED 1279 01:32:24,680 --> 01:32:25,680 August 26, 2020. 1280 01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:31,280 In a drug raid, police in Leipzig seized narcotics and a large sum of cash. 1281 01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:35,680 Four men and one woman are suspected of drug trafficking, 1282 01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:39,000 the suspects are between 22 to 41 years old. 1283 01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:41,680 Authorities say investigations are ongoing. 1284 01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:45,360 The focus is currently on examining and evaluating the evidence 1285 01:32:45,440 --> 01:32:48,520 such as seized computer technology. 1286 01:32:52,440 --> 01:32:54,960 MARCH 2021 1287 01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:09,800 Hello. 1288 01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:12,200 I have news. 1289 01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:16,400 The news is that today I can inform you 1290 01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:18,960 that Mr. S 1291 01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:21,760 is under investigation. 1292 01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:25,560 He, along with others, 1293 01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:31,120 once again began operating an online shop through which illegal drugs were sold. 1294 01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:33,680 The page had a different name, 1295 01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:38,560 but the overall approach taken and the way it is set up is similar 1296 01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:40,800 to Shiny-Flakes. 1297 01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:52,680 Mr. Schmidt knows he is being investigated 1298 01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:54,840 and that he is a suspect. 1299 01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:59,040 I think the evidence against him is good. 1300 01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:04,040 And I anticipate that the prosecution will issue an indictment. 1301 01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:07,920 Yes. 1302 01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:19,800 You don't want to talk about it at all? 1303 01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:20,840 No. 1304 01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:22,120 Why not? 1305 01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:23,880 That has nothing to do with it. 1306 01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:11,560 THE PROSECUTION HAS YET TO CONCLUDE ITS INVESTIGATION INTO MAXIMILIAN SCHMIDT. 1307 01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:16,200 IF INDICTED, INNOCENCE IS PRESUMED UNTIL THE CONCLUSION OF THE TRIAL. 1308 01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:17,720 Subtitle translation by: