1 00:00:03,753 --> 00:00:04,295 January 19th, 2007, 2 00:00:06,381 --> 00:00:09,342 I arrived at the scene of a house fire. 3 00:00:09,384 --> 00:00:11,219 RONALD: I looked up at my light, 4 00:00:11,261 --> 00:00:14,723 and that's when I saw a child on his bed. 5 00:00:14,764 --> 00:00:18,643 I've never seen a scene where a whole family was wiped out. 6 00:00:18,685 --> 00:00:22,939 HOLLY: This is the biggest crime to shock this small town 7 00:00:22,981 --> 00:00:24,482 in a very, very long time. 8 00:00:24,524 --> 00:00:26,192 I was scared because I was like, 9 00:00:26,234 --> 00:00:27,569 "Who came for my family?" 10 00:00:27,610 --> 00:00:32,532 Numerous witnesses had spoken of drug debts. 11 00:00:32,574 --> 00:00:36,119 LARRY: There was a lockbox that kept the drugs 12 00:00:36,161 --> 00:00:37,746 and possibly some of his cash. 13 00:00:37,787 --> 00:00:39,039 CORRINE: There was a boy. 14 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:40,999 He was actually staying with my family. 15 00:00:41,041 --> 00:00:43,126 He was probably not the best person 16 00:00:43,168 --> 00:00:45,337 to have around your children. 17 00:00:45,378 --> 00:00:47,839 What caused them to stab little kids? 18 00:00:47,881 --> 00:00:49,382 That's an animal. That's not a human. 19 00:00:49,424 --> 00:00:51,718 We knew we had to find the killer 20 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,346 before more lives are lost. 21 00:00:55,847 --> 00:00:59,225 [*] 22 00:01:09,611 --> 00:01:12,572 TERRENCE: The town of Fishkill is located in Dutchess County 23 00:01:12,614 --> 00:01:14,699 in New York State. 24 00:01:14,741 --> 00:01:18,620 It's a fairly good sized town, about 30-32 square miles. 25 00:01:18,661 --> 00:01:23,124 Has a little bit less than 23,000 people. 26 00:01:23,166 --> 00:01:27,212 It has a main street with shops and restaurants 27 00:01:27,253 --> 00:01:28,505 and that kind of thing. 28 00:01:28,546 --> 00:01:30,298 And then a lot of it is just 29 00:01:30,340 --> 00:01:35,637 suburban tracts of-- of housing. 30 00:01:35,679 --> 00:01:37,639 TERRENCE: It became, uh, more of a bedroom community 31 00:01:37,681 --> 00:01:40,266 for the New York City Metropolitan area. 32 00:01:40,308 --> 00:01:43,770 You're less likely, um, to be a victim of violent crime 33 00:01:43,812 --> 00:01:45,146 in the town of Fishkill 34 00:01:45,188 --> 00:01:47,524 than say the rest of-- of New York State. 35 00:01:48,525 --> 00:01:51,403 [*] 36 00:01:53,071 --> 00:01:55,865 January 19th, 2007, 37 00:01:55,907 --> 00:01:57,325 there was a passing motorist 38 00:01:57,367 --> 00:02:01,162 who saw a house fire on Route 82. 39 00:02:03,289 --> 00:02:06,626 They contacted the local fire department, 40 00:02:06,668 --> 00:02:08,169 they responded. 41 00:02:10,714 --> 00:02:14,092 As we drove up and pulled in the front yard, 42 00:02:14,134 --> 00:02:18,096 I see the rear of the house was on fire. 43 00:02:18,138 --> 00:02:22,058 Lots of smoke, so we put our air packs on 44 00:02:22,100 --> 00:02:24,185 and we assembled at the front door. 45 00:02:28,815 --> 00:02:32,068 BRANDON: We make our way up the interior stairs. 46 00:02:32,110 --> 00:02:34,362 And there's already pretty heavy fire. 47 00:02:34,404 --> 00:02:36,698 Smoke was down to the floor. 48 00:02:36,740 --> 00:02:38,867 RONALD: You can feel the heat in your ears, 49 00:02:38,908 --> 00:02:40,160 the back of your neck. 50 00:02:40,201 --> 00:02:42,495 And then we got to the top of the stairs 51 00:02:42,537 --> 00:02:47,000 and there was a door to the left and a door to the right. 52 00:02:47,042 --> 00:02:50,128 Brandon broke off to the bedroom to the right. 53 00:02:50,170 --> 00:02:53,131 I went to the bedroom to the left. 54 00:02:53,173 --> 00:02:56,301 Door was partially open, so I pushed it, 55 00:02:56,343 --> 00:02:58,178 and I couldn't see anything 56 00:02:58,219 --> 00:03:01,264 and I bumped into a bed with my helmet. 57 00:03:01,306 --> 00:03:02,724 And then I looked up at my light, 58 00:03:02,766 --> 00:03:06,227 and that's when I saw a child in his bed. 59 00:03:09,856 --> 00:03:11,858 And I called that to the other guys 60 00:03:11,900 --> 00:03:13,568 that we had a body in here. 61 00:03:14,319 --> 00:03:16,488 We pick the child up. 62 00:03:17,447 --> 00:03:18,823 And when we put him outside, 63 00:03:18,865 --> 00:03:23,286 I noticed I had little spots of blood on my coat. 64 00:03:24,454 --> 00:03:26,414 I knew right away in my mind, 65 00:03:26,456 --> 00:03:28,458 I was like, "This is not right." 66 00:03:32,170 --> 00:03:33,630 BRANDON: When we got outside 67 00:03:33,672 --> 00:03:35,757 and had a little better visibility, 68 00:03:35,799 --> 00:03:39,386 we noticed that child had obvious trauma. 69 00:03:43,264 --> 00:03:46,059 RONALD: He had pajamas on, 70 00:03:46,101 --> 00:03:50,313 and you could see the blood marks, 71 00:03:50,355 --> 00:03:53,483 and the medic pronounced him right there. 72 00:03:56,820 --> 00:03:58,488 It was heartbreaking. 73 00:03:58,530 --> 00:04:01,616 People started realizing that it was a bad situation, 74 00:04:01,658 --> 00:04:03,868 so they started doing more searches. 75 00:04:03,910 --> 00:04:06,579 And we went back upstairs to the same bedroom 76 00:04:06,621 --> 00:04:10,208 where we pulled the first child out, 77 00:04:10,250 --> 00:04:12,168 and there was another child that they found 78 00:04:12,210 --> 00:04:14,337 under a windowsill. 79 00:04:16,923 --> 00:04:21,553 You can see that there was trauma done to that boy as well. 80 00:04:23,013 --> 00:04:27,100 RONALD: As the search continue to the left of living room, 81 00:04:27,142 --> 00:04:28,685 there was a dining room, 82 00:04:28,727 --> 00:04:29,894 and then there, 83 00:04:29,936 --> 00:04:32,063 a couple guys found another child in there 84 00:04:32,105 --> 00:04:33,773 and pulled him out. 85 00:04:35,817 --> 00:04:40,238 And it was apparent there was trauma to that boy as well. 86 00:04:40,280 --> 00:04:42,824 And he was the youngest of the three boys. 87 00:04:44,409 --> 00:04:47,871 The four of us are taking a knee, 88 00:04:47,912 --> 00:04:50,498 you know, just looked at each other in shock 89 00:04:50,540 --> 00:04:53,293 of what had taken place 90 00:04:53,335 --> 00:04:55,587 and what it was that we were witnessing. 91 00:04:57,756 --> 00:05:00,342 RONALD: We knew that it was not a normal fire, 92 00:05:00,383 --> 00:05:03,636 so the town police would call the state police 93 00:05:03,678 --> 00:05:06,473 and then the investigators come in. 94 00:05:08,016 --> 00:05:09,601 When I pulled up on 82, uh, 95 00:05:09,642 --> 00:05:12,020 there was a-- a number of emergency vehicles there, 96 00:05:12,062 --> 00:05:14,022 the road had been blocked off. 97 00:05:18,234 --> 00:05:19,486 The fire had been put out 98 00:05:19,527 --> 00:05:21,279 and the house was not fully engulfed. 99 00:05:21,321 --> 00:05:23,198 The-- the front of the structure, 100 00:05:23,239 --> 00:05:24,574 there was a lot of smoke damage. 101 00:05:24,616 --> 00:05:26,326 Uh, it appeared the back of the structure 102 00:05:26,368 --> 00:05:28,161 is really where the fire was hot 103 00:05:28,203 --> 00:05:30,955 and most of the damage was--was done. 104 00:05:33,208 --> 00:05:34,417 There was a tarp that 105 00:05:34,459 --> 00:05:35,794 the fire department had laidout 106 00:05:35,835 --> 00:05:37,879 and they had brought out the-- the bodies 107 00:05:37,921 --> 00:05:39,756 of the-- the three boys. 108 00:05:41,174 --> 00:05:42,384 Seeing the visible wounds, 109 00:05:42,425 --> 00:05:44,511 it became evident pretty quickly 110 00:05:44,552 --> 00:05:46,304 that there was more to it 111 00:05:46,346 --> 00:05:48,682 than somebody, uh, succumbing to smoke inhalation 112 00:05:48,723 --> 00:05:52,519 or burns as a result of a house fire. 113 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,396 Uh, it-- it gets you in the gut. 114 00:05:54,437 --> 00:05:57,857 It's-- it's-- it's three young lives that are no more. 115 00:06:00,568 --> 00:06:03,947 Right away, we just start doing area interviews. 116 00:06:03,988 --> 00:06:07,200 And there was information from a few neighbors 117 00:06:07,242 --> 00:06:08,868 who knew the victims. 118 00:06:08,910 --> 00:06:13,081 They said that this was the home of the Morey family. 119 00:06:13,957 --> 00:06:15,250 Based upon what we gathered 120 00:06:15,291 --> 00:06:16,835 at-- at our end of the investigation, 121 00:06:16,876 --> 00:06:19,587 the children were probably Tony Jr., 122 00:06:19,629 --> 00:06:22,090 Ryan, and Adam Morey. 123 00:06:23,925 --> 00:06:28,680 The mother and father, Tony and Tina, were missing. 124 00:06:28,722 --> 00:06:31,057 BRANDON: So our next moves were to 125 00:06:31,099 --> 00:06:35,895 reenter the house and continue to search for the parents. 126 00:06:35,937 --> 00:06:38,481 RONALD: Everybody searched the dining room, 127 00:06:38,523 --> 00:06:40,734 the living room, went back upstairs, 128 00:06:40,775 --> 00:06:43,570 they were searching outside the house. 129 00:06:44,779 --> 00:06:47,949 BRANDON: And shortly thereafter, 130 00:06:47,991 --> 00:06:49,492 in the rear of the house 131 00:06:49,534 --> 00:06:53,413 where the majority of the fire had started, 132 00:06:53,455 --> 00:06:56,458 they had found a fourth victim. 133 00:06:57,917 --> 00:07:00,754 TERRENCE: Thought to be the mother. 134 00:07:00,795 --> 00:07:05,133 And she had suffered severe, um, burns. 135 00:07:08,011 --> 00:07:10,889 RONALD: I've been in the fire service 34 years. 136 00:07:10,930 --> 00:07:15,060 I've seen some bad scenes but nothing like that. 137 00:07:15,101 --> 00:07:17,145 Never, never seen a scene 138 00:07:17,187 --> 00:07:19,731 where a whole family was wiped out. 139 00:07:21,941 --> 00:07:25,612 BRANDON: None of us had ever seen anything like that before. 140 00:07:27,572 --> 00:07:30,742 Never have before or since. 141 00:07:33,661 --> 00:07:34,954 TERRENCE: After the firefighters 142 00:07:34,996 --> 00:07:36,664 completely put out the house fire, 143 00:07:36,706 --> 00:07:38,500 made sure that the structure was secure, 144 00:07:38,541 --> 00:07:40,752 we did the walkthrough of the house, 145 00:07:40,794 --> 00:07:44,547 with the head of our forensic ID unit at the time. 146 00:07:44,589 --> 00:07:47,634 There was no indication of a forced entry. 147 00:07:47,676 --> 00:07:50,011 And there was fire damage and smoke damage 148 00:07:50,053 --> 00:07:51,096 throughout the house. 149 00:07:51,137 --> 00:07:53,223 But the hottest part of the blaze 150 00:07:53,264 --> 00:07:57,519 would have been the back part where Tina was found. 151 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,147 But the front part was still intact. 152 00:08:01,189 --> 00:08:02,816 So there was a workable area 153 00:08:02,857 --> 00:08:05,443 that the forensic unit could go through 154 00:08:05,485 --> 00:08:07,696 to process that crime scene. 155 00:08:08,613 --> 00:08:10,615 Upstairs on the second floor, 156 00:08:10,657 --> 00:08:12,659 there was a lot of blood in that upstairs room 157 00:08:12,701 --> 00:08:15,120 where the boys were. 158 00:08:15,161 --> 00:08:16,705 BRANDON: And there was an axe handle 159 00:08:16,746 --> 00:08:19,833 found in that same bedroom. 160 00:08:19,874 --> 00:08:23,211 And a bloody palm print was found. 161 00:08:26,464 --> 00:08:27,841 After the walkthrough, 162 00:08:27,882 --> 00:08:31,553 there was concern that the father was missing. 163 00:08:31,594 --> 00:08:33,430 We were talking with the police officers 164 00:08:33,471 --> 00:08:35,140 and we told them that when we pulled up, 165 00:08:35,181 --> 00:08:37,142 you could see tire tracks 166 00:08:37,183 --> 00:08:38,852 and a melted spot in the snow 167 00:08:38,893 --> 00:08:41,813 where like a car was running for a long time. 168 00:08:43,273 --> 00:08:46,109 TERRENCE: About 20 minutes after the original call came in 169 00:08:46,151 --> 00:08:49,154 about the house fire on Route 82, 170 00:08:49,195 --> 00:08:50,613 there was a second call 171 00:08:50,655 --> 00:08:52,615 into fire dispatch regarding 172 00:08:52,657 --> 00:08:54,784 a, uh, burning car in Lomala Lane. 173 00:08:54,826 --> 00:08:59,039 And Lomala Lane is-- is not too far from the Morey residence. 174 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:00,749 [SIREN WAILING] 175 00:09:00,790 --> 00:09:03,752 RONALD: And they sent the East Fishkill Fire Department. 176 00:09:03,793 --> 00:09:07,213 And car fire came in within not even half mile away 177 00:09:07,255 --> 00:09:08,965 from the residence. 178 00:09:13,261 --> 00:09:14,721 TERRENCE: The car was empty 179 00:09:14,763 --> 00:09:17,140 and the information from Motor Vehicles 180 00:09:17,182 --> 00:09:21,978 links the burning vehicle to, uh, Mr. Morey. 181 00:09:23,313 --> 00:09:28,568 So that car ended up becoming a secondary crime scene. 182 00:09:28,610 --> 00:09:30,653 So we started processing that car 183 00:09:30,695 --> 00:09:33,990 to possibly get some sort of retrievable evidence. 184 00:09:35,116 --> 00:09:36,534 At that point in time, 185 00:09:36,576 --> 00:09:38,745 we didn't know Tony's whereabouts. 186 00:09:38,787 --> 00:09:42,332 Could it be he, too, was a victim? 187 00:09:42,374 --> 00:09:43,917 Also, in cases like that, 188 00:09:43,958 --> 00:09:45,877 where you had a whole family wiped out, 189 00:09:45,919 --> 00:09:48,129 you're gonna look to those closest. 190 00:09:48,171 --> 00:09:52,133 So could Tony have committed this homicide? 191 00:09:55,303 --> 00:09:59,891 Tina and Tony's relationship was rocky, on and off. 192 00:09:59,933 --> 00:10:01,935 TERRENCE: There was tension within the marriage 193 00:10:01,976 --> 00:10:03,520 relating to money issues 194 00:10:03,561 --> 00:10:07,023 and Tony's use of alcohol and-- and drugs. 195 00:10:08,233 --> 00:10:11,611 I heard Morey's family friend, Frankie Cannon 196 00:10:11,653 --> 00:10:15,198 would help Tony sometimes sell drugs. 197 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,951 TERRENCE: Since there was no indication of forced entry, 198 00:10:18,368 --> 00:10:21,246 [SIREN WAILING] 199 00:10:27,585 --> 00:10:29,838 Uh, January 19th, 2007, 200 00:10:29,879 --> 00:10:32,590 I arrived at the scene of a house fire 201 00:10:32,632 --> 00:10:34,634 of the Morey family. 202 00:10:34,676 --> 00:10:36,845 After they pulled the three children out, 203 00:10:36,886 --> 00:10:38,847 the fourth body was found 204 00:10:38,888 --> 00:10:42,183 and it was the wife, Tina. 205 00:10:42,225 --> 00:10:46,855 But there was concern that the father was missing. 206 00:10:46,896 --> 00:10:48,815 So, where was the father? 207 00:10:48,857 --> 00:10:52,068 His body was not found in the house. 208 00:10:53,486 --> 00:10:54,904 And then his burning car 209 00:10:54,946 --> 00:10:58,366 was found not too far from the Morey residence. 210 00:10:58,408 --> 00:11:02,037 It raises suspicions about Tony Morey. 211 00:11:02,078 --> 00:11:04,748 Did Tony murder his family? 212 00:11:06,791 --> 00:11:08,793 Once the ME arrived 213 00:11:08,835 --> 00:11:11,171 and did the postmortem of Tina, 214 00:11:11,212 --> 00:11:15,592 they found the charred remains of Tony and Tina together. 215 00:11:15,633 --> 00:11:19,054 They thought they had one body and it was two. 216 00:11:19,095 --> 00:11:22,974 HOLLY: They were burned so badly in the blaze, 217 00:11:23,016 --> 00:11:28,772 the body of Tony Morey had melded with his wife's. 218 00:11:31,358 --> 00:11:33,860 So that changed the nature of the investigation 219 00:11:33,902 --> 00:11:34,944 because now you had-- 220 00:11:34,986 --> 00:11:36,780 you had a whole family wiped out. 221 00:11:36,821 --> 00:11:40,700 And now you had some unknown suspect or suspects 222 00:11:40,742 --> 00:11:42,577 who are out there that committed 223 00:11:42,619 --> 00:11:44,996 this quintuple homicide. 224 00:11:46,081 --> 00:11:48,416 And then you have this secondary crime scene 225 00:11:48,458 --> 00:11:50,418 in another fire. 226 00:11:50,460 --> 00:11:51,836 It's not a common occurrence 227 00:11:51,878 --> 00:11:53,838 that's gonna be happening in the town of Fishkill. 228 00:11:55,006 --> 00:11:57,509 The next day, the medical examiner's office 229 00:11:57,550 --> 00:11:59,844 reported that Tony Morey was shot, 230 00:11:59,886 --> 00:12:01,346 uh, once in the neck 231 00:12:01,388 --> 00:12:05,809 and Tina Morey was shot in the chest and in the head. 232 00:12:05,850 --> 00:12:07,852 The autopsy showed on Tony Jr., 233 00:12:07,894 --> 00:12:10,438 there was numerous stab wounds. 234 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:11,940 The middle boy Adam, 235 00:12:11,981 --> 00:12:14,859 he had suffered stab wounds as well. 236 00:12:14,901 --> 00:12:18,029 And then there was the younger boy, Ryan, 237 00:12:18,071 --> 00:12:22,075 he suffered, um, blunt force trauma to the head. 238 00:12:26,329 --> 00:12:30,458 It was about 9:30, I get a phone call 239 00:12:30,500 --> 00:12:32,836 from the junior high school. 240 00:12:32,877 --> 00:12:37,173 She goes, "Your grandson's not here. 241 00:12:37,215 --> 00:12:38,675 "Kids are talking 242 00:12:38,717 --> 00:12:40,844 that their house burned down last night." 243 00:12:40,885 --> 00:12:43,888 She goes, "Well, I tried calling your daughter. 244 00:12:43,930 --> 00:12:46,016 I tried calling your son-in-law, 245 00:12:46,057 --> 00:12:49,853 and there's no answer on their house or cell phone." 246 00:12:57,193 --> 00:12:58,445 CORINNE: I was in high school 247 00:12:58,486 --> 00:13:01,281 and dad picked me up from school that day. 248 00:13:01,322 --> 00:13:03,742 And that's when he's on the phone with my grandmother. 249 00:13:03,783 --> 00:13:06,286 She says, uh, there was a-- 250 00:13:06,327 --> 00:13:10,957 Something happened at the house. It was something bad. 251 00:13:10,999 --> 00:13:12,917 And then that's when we found out 252 00:13:12,959 --> 00:13:14,919 that there was a fire at the house, 253 00:13:14,961 --> 00:13:17,172 and that the boys didn't show up to school. 254 00:13:17,213 --> 00:13:18,590 We didn't know what was going on. 255 00:13:18,631 --> 00:13:20,550 Nobody could get in touch with Tina. 256 00:13:22,385 --> 00:13:24,804 ARLENE: We went down to the barracks, 257 00:13:24,846 --> 00:13:26,473 met the state police. 258 00:13:26,514 --> 00:13:30,769 My husband sat down, I didn't, and I wanted to go. 259 00:13:30,810 --> 00:13:32,312 And they asked, "Where are you going?" 260 00:13:32,354 --> 00:13:34,189 I said, "I wanna go to the hospital." 261 00:13:34,230 --> 00:13:37,442 If that's where my family is, that's where I'm going. 262 00:13:37,484 --> 00:13:39,903 And they go, "There's nothing you can do for them." 263 00:13:39,944 --> 00:13:42,030 I said, "Even if I'm just holding their hand, 264 00:13:42,072 --> 00:13:44,032 "I wanna be there." 265 00:13:44,074 --> 00:13:48,286 So finally, they finally said that they were deceased. 266 00:13:48,745 --> 00:13:50,497 I lost it. 267 00:13:53,416 --> 00:13:55,919 [EXHALES] 268 00:14:00,256 --> 00:14:02,717 BARBARA: Arlene called me right after she found out 269 00:14:02,759 --> 00:14:04,719 the boys were killed. 270 00:14:04,761 --> 00:14:06,721 She just kept screaming, "They're gone. 271 00:14:06,763 --> 00:14:09,182 "The boys are gone. They're dead." 272 00:14:09,224 --> 00:14:12,852 Just listening to her screaming, it-- it was like a nightmare. 273 00:14:12,894 --> 00:14:15,271 It's like, I could still hear it. 274 00:14:15,313 --> 00:14:16,898 [*] 275 00:14:16,940 --> 00:14:19,150 ARLENE: They were my life. 276 00:14:23,613 --> 00:14:26,449 I'm so lost without them. 277 00:14:33,456 --> 00:14:36,418 JAMES: Tony Sr. used to love playing with the boys. 278 00:14:36,459 --> 00:14:39,921 I know he used to go out with the motorized vehicles. 279 00:14:39,963 --> 00:14:42,048 Loved to spend the time with the boys, 280 00:14:42,090 --> 00:14:43,466 which is really cool. 281 00:14:43,508 --> 00:14:46,553 The kids I know truly loved being around them. 282 00:14:49,973 --> 00:14:53,685 CORRINE: Tina was a great mom. She was there for everything. 283 00:14:53,727 --> 00:14:55,729 She was very protective of them. 284 00:14:55,770 --> 00:14:59,649 ARLENE: She loved her sons with all her heart. 285 00:14:59,691 --> 00:15:02,110 And she always put them first 286 00:15:02,152 --> 00:15:07,615 and she did everything in her power to protect them. 287 00:15:07,657 --> 00:15:09,617 She wanted to go to college 288 00:15:09,659 --> 00:15:10,994 and become a lawyer 289 00:15:11,036 --> 00:15:15,874 to better educate and do good for the boys. 290 00:15:15,915 --> 00:15:17,625 CORRINE: Tony Jr., he was 13. 291 00:15:17,667 --> 00:15:21,504 Tony loved to play football. He loved to read. 292 00:15:21,921 --> 00:15:23,340 Adam was 10, 293 00:15:23,381 --> 00:15:25,300 he was a little bit more quiet from the bunch. 294 00:15:25,342 --> 00:15:27,135 He was very gentle. 295 00:15:27,177 --> 00:15:32,015 ARLENE: Ryan was six. He was a kindergartner. 296 00:15:32,057 --> 00:15:34,392 CORRINE: Ryan was definitely a little cutie. 297 00:15:34,434 --> 00:15:36,936 [LAUGHS] He was always running around, 298 00:15:36,978 --> 00:15:39,522 always jumping and following his older brothers. 299 00:15:39,564 --> 00:15:43,318 They loved doing outdoor things together. 300 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:47,697 ARLENE: I miss their laughter. I miss their smiles. 301 00:15:47,739 --> 00:15:50,283 I just miss them all. 302 00:15:50,825 --> 00:15:54,287 [*] 303 00:15:55,372 --> 00:15:57,248 TERRENCE: At that point in time, 304 00:15:57,290 --> 00:15:59,000 we had unknown suspect or suspects 305 00:15:59,042 --> 00:16:00,919 who were out there that committed this 306 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,505 pretty savage quintuple homicide. 307 00:16:03,546 --> 00:16:05,840 Since there was no indication of forced entry, 308 00:16:05,882 --> 00:16:10,053 it was possible that the killer knew the Moreys. 309 00:16:10,095 --> 00:16:11,471 RONALD: People were nervous 310 00:16:11,513 --> 00:16:13,890 because nothing's ever happened in this area, 311 00:16:13,932 --> 00:16:15,350 the Fishkill area, 312 00:16:15,392 --> 00:16:17,769 like so people were talking, wondering who would do it. 313 00:16:17,811 --> 00:16:19,854 I can't wake up in the morning without thinking about it 314 00:16:19,896 --> 00:16:22,107 or go to bed at night thinking about it. 315 00:16:22,148 --> 00:16:23,858 They don't deserve this. 316 00:16:23,900 --> 00:16:25,110 MAN: They don't deserve this at all. 317 00:16:25,151 --> 00:16:27,028 They don't at all. 318 00:16:27,070 --> 00:16:30,031 This is terrible, the way it is. 319 00:16:30,073 --> 00:16:31,991 A lot of people were really scared. 320 00:16:32,033 --> 00:16:34,202 The suspects were still out there. 321 00:16:34,244 --> 00:16:37,080 I was scared because I was like, "Who came for my family?" 322 00:16:37,122 --> 00:16:40,542 So definitely rattled, definitely scary. 323 00:16:40,583 --> 00:16:42,961 RONALD: We knew we had to find who was the killer 324 00:16:43,003 --> 00:16:46,131 before any other lives are lost. 325 00:16:49,426 --> 00:16:50,927 MAN: Police say someone murdered the Morey family 326 00:16:52,929 --> 00:16:54,347 while they slept. 327 00:16:54,389 --> 00:16:57,475 Tony Morey and his wife Tina were both shot. 328 00:16:57,517 --> 00:17:01,396 Their boys, Tony Jr. 13 and Adam 10 329 00:17:01,438 --> 00:17:02,814 were stabbed to death. 330 00:17:02,856 --> 00:17:07,110 And Ryan just six died from a blow to the head. 331 00:17:07,152 --> 00:17:09,237 Everyone was definitely feeling unsettled. 332 00:17:09,279 --> 00:17:13,074 There's still a suspect out there. Definitely scary. 333 00:17:15,744 --> 00:17:19,539 TERRENCE: From the jump of the case once it starts off, 334 00:17:19,581 --> 00:17:20,915 as far as law enforcement goes, 335 00:17:20,957 --> 00:17:23,418 even agencies that weren't involved 336 00:17:23,460 --> 00:17:26,087 were assisting with leads, 337 00:17:26,129 --> 00:17:28,089 any information they had. 338 00:17:28,131 --> 00:17:30,467 It was all hands on deck. 339 00:17:31,343 --> 00:17:33,803 [*] 340 00:17:33,845 --> 00:17:35,972 IRA: So we found out a little later in the day 341 00:17:36,014 --> 00:17:38,433 that State Trooper Dawn Melfi was patrolling 342 00:17:38,475 --> 00:17:42,645 close to the Morey family house at the time of the crime. 343 00:17:43,688 --> 00:17:45,273 She was operating a troop car 344 00:17:45,315 --> 00:17:48,985 with a, um, device on it called the Mobile Plate Hunter. 345 00:17:49,903 --> 00:17:51,112 It is basically running 346 00:17:51,154 --> 00:17:53,156 every plate in its field of vision. 347 00:17:53,198 --> 00:17:55,492 It's taking pictures constantly. 348 00:17:55,533 --> 00:17:58,661 We pulled the information off the license plate reader 349 00:17:58,703 --> 00:18:01,122 and GPS data was collected. 350 00:18:01,164 --> 00:18:04,042 So we knew when that troop car was in close proximity 351 00:18:04,084 --> 00:18:05,752 to the Morey house. 352 00:18:06,795 --> 00:18:08,380 We can then look at that and see 353 00:18:08,421 --> 00:18:12,133 what cars were around at right about 3:00 AM 354 00:18:12,175 --> 00:18:14,386 when the fire happened. 355 00:18:17,180 --> 00:18:20,141 There was a huge amount of data to go through. 356 00:18:20,183 --> 00:18:21,851 Thousands of pictures. 357 00:18:21,893 --> 00:18:24,479 It is a time-consuming process. 358 00:18:29,192 --> 00:18:31,820 TERRENCE: At this point in the investigation, 359 00:18:31,861 --> 00:18:33,363 there was a lot of things going on 360 00:18:33,405 --> 00:18:35,156 and you have different teams of investigators 361 00:18:35,198 --> 00:18:36,157 out doing interviews. 362 00:18:36,199 --> 00:18:37,534 So leads are gonna come in 363 00:18:37,575 --> 00:18:39,703 and they're gonna come in fast and furious. 364 00:18:39,744 --> 00:18:43,665 This is the biggest crime to shock this small town 365 00:18:43,707 --> 00:18:45,667 in a very, very long time. 366 00:18:45,709 --> 00:18:50,213 You can imagine all the rumors that are flying around. 367 00:18:50,255 --> 00:18:52,007 RONALD: You know, you hear different stories 368 00:18:52,048 --> 00:18:54,259 and you're trying to separate what's fact from what's rumor, 369 00:18:54,300 --> 00:18:56,678 but you have to keep doing what you're supposed to do 370 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,430 in an investigation. 371 00:18:58,471 --> 00:19:01,725 So, we were doing some local interviews on Route 82. 372 00:19:02,392 --> 00:19:03,727 [*] 373 00:19:03,768 --> 00:19:06,479 TERRENCE: Route 82 is a main thoroughfare 374 00:19:06,521 --> 00:19:08,189 through the town of Fishkill. 375 00:19:08,231 --> 00:19:10,692 We were trying to do some interviews of cars 376 00:19:10,734 --> 00:19:12,819 that were let by on the road. It was early morning. 377 00:19:12,861 --> 00:19:18,033 People were commuting to work in the vicinity of the crime scene. 378 00:19:18,074 --> 00:19:21,369 Maybe somebody saw something. 379 00:19:21,411 --> 00:19:25,206 We eventually interviewed an individual who knew the family. 380 00:19:25,248 --> 00:19:28,084 In his words, Tony wasn't a reputable person. 381 00:19:28,585 --> 00:19:30,253 [*] 382 00:19:30,295 --> 00:19:34,591 He did indicate that Tony had some, uh, drug issues. 383 00:19:35,175 --> 00:19:38,219 He was also dealing drugs. 384 00:19:38,261 --> 00:19:41,806 Once we discovered this other side of Tony, 385 00:19:41,848 --> 00:19:43,558 this could be a drug related homicide. 386 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,103 You have to concern yourself with that possibility, 387 00:19:47,145 --> 00:19:51,107 but that's speculation at that point in time. 388 00:19:52,901 --> 00:19:55,236 ARLENE: They really struggled. 389 00:19:56,029 --> 00:19:58,156 Tony had his problems. 390 00:19:58,198 --> 00:20:00,241 He lost his job. 391 00:20:00,283 --> 00:20:04,120 And of course he couldn't pay the rent. 392 00:20:05,121 --> 00:20:06,581 JAMES: He tried to make ends meet. 393 00:20:06,623 --> 00:20:09,292 It was just, you know, small stuff 394 00:20:09,334 --> 00:20:10,752 between friends with drugs. 395 00:20:10,794 --> 00:20:13,797 Put a few extra dollars in the pocket, pay the bills. 396 00:20:15,215 --> 00:20:16,633 TERRENCE: It's the first time 397 00:20:16,675 --> 00:20:20,762 that we're hearing anything negative about Tony. 398 00:20:20,804 --> 00:20:22,597 And as the day progressed, 399 00:20:22,639 --> 00:20:25,975 we were getting more of that-- that information. 400 00:20:26,017 --> 00:20:28,478 [*] 401 00:20:29,979 --> 00:20:32,774 TERRENCE: There was informatio from a few witnesses 402 00:20:32,816 --> 00:20:35,443 that there was tension within the marriage 403 00:20:35,485 --> 00:20:37,320 relating to-- to money issues 404 00:20:37,362 --> 00:20:40,907 and Tony's use of alcohol and-- and drugs. 405 00:20:40,949 --> 00:20:43,284 [*] 406 00:20:43,326 --> 00:20:47,205 TERRENCE: We learned that Tina was planning on moving, 407 00:20:47,247 --> 00:20:50,417 uh, from the house relocating to another state. 408 00:20:51,501 --> 00:20:53,294 ARLENE: Tina and Tony's relationship 409 00:20:53,336 --> 00:20:56,256 with the kids was pretty good. 410 00:20:56,297 --> 00:21:02,178 Their relationship was rocky, on and off. 411 00:21:02,220 --> 00:21:03,805 ARLENE: She lived for her children 412 00:21:03,847 --> 00:21:05,098 like any normal mother. 413 00:21:05,140 --> 00:21:06,683 She worried about her children. 414 00:21:09,519 --> 00:21:12,022 TERRENCE: Some witnesses said that, uh, Tony 415 00:21:12,063 --> 00:21:13,440 took a bit of a downward spiral, 416 00:21:13,481 --> 00:21:16,901 went into a bit of a depression. 417 00:21:16,943 --> 00:21:21,656 Started using, uh, drugs and alcohol, uh, a bit more 418 00:21:21,698 --> 00:21:23,491 due to possible tension 419 00:21:23,533 --> 00:21:26,202 with-- within the-- within the marriage. 420 00:21:27,495 --> 00:21:32,208 Numerous witnesses had spoken of Tony's drug business. 421 00:21:32,250 --> 00:21:34,044 I think the money was coming in and going out 422 00:21:34,085 --> 00:21:35,170 as fast as it came in. 423 00:21:35,211 --> 00:21:36,713 It wasn't going towards rent. 424 00:21:37,756 --> 00:21:39,632 When you bring drugs into the equation, 425 00:21:39,674 --> 00:21:41,718 it has to be considered, you know, 426 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,136 are there drug debts? 427 00:21:43,178 --> 00:21:45,305 You know, a killing like that, obviously you're-- 428 00:21:45,347 --> 00:21:48,725 you're gonna look to those closest to the family. 429 00:21:51,728 --> 00:21:54,147 CORRINE: So at the time, there was a boy in high school, 430 00:21:54,189 --> 00:21:55,523 Frankie Cannon. 431 00:21:55,565 --> 00:21:59,027 My cousin Tina treated him just like a son as well. 432 00:21:59,069 --> 00:22:00,779 He was actually staying with my family 433 00:22:00,820 --> 00:22:03,531 for a couple months prior up to the murders. 434 00:22:03,573 --> 00:22:07,702 LARRY: Frankie was kind of a messed up kid. 435 00:22:07,744 --> 00:22:09,662 I heard Frankie Cannon 436 00:22:09,704 --> 00:22:13,249 would help Tony sometimes sell drugs. 437 00:22:14,918 --> 00:22:17,587 He was just sort of, um, a helper. 438 00:22:17,629 --> 00:22:18,880 [*] 439 00:22:18,922 --> 00:22:20,382 TERRENCE: So Frankie Cannon 440 00:22:20,423 --> 00:22:22,384 would've been looked at as a potential suspect. 441 00:22:22,425 --> 00:22:24,594 We need to talk to him. 442 00:22:27,430 --> 00:22:29,349 The narcotics teams we brought in 443 00:22:29,391 --> 00:22:30,725 found Tony's supplier. 444 00:22:30,767 --> 00:22:34,270 He supplied Tony Morey with narcotics, 445 00:22:34,312 --> 00:22:36,147 with-- with cocaine. 446 00:22:36,189 --> 00:22:37,399 We interviewed him. 447 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,067 There was information that we felt 448 00:22:39,109 --> 00:22:40,735 that he was withholding. 449 00:22:40,777 --> 00:22:42,070 [*] 450 00:22:42,112 --> 00:22:43,405 LARRY: A kid who was playing hockey 451 00:22:43,446 --> 00:22:45,782 on the part of the lake that was frozen 452 00:22:45,824 --> 00:22:47,575 found a knife nearby. 453 00:22:47,617 --> 00:22:51,079 They did DNA and most of the blood that was found 454 00:22:51,454 --> 00:22:54,958 OFFICER: The Morey family was attacked and viciously murdered 455 00:22:59,754 --> 00:23:01,464 within the confines of their home. 456 00:23:01,506 --> 00:23:04,718 A homicide is most certainly not your average crime 457 00:23:04,759 --> 00:23:09,806 and this was certainly not an average homicide. 458 00:23:09,848 --> 00:23:13,560 MAN: Police say Mr. Morey was using and dealing cocaine. 459 00:23:13,601 --> 00:23:16,312 He definitely associated with, um, a criminal element 460 00:23:16,354 --> 00:23:18,565 and that's one of the things that we're certainly 461 00:23:18,606 --> 00:23:19,691 looking into. 462 00:23:19,733 --> 00:23:22,027 [*] 463 00:23:24,029 --> 00:23:27,157 TERRENCE: One factor that has to be considered, 464 00:23:27,198 --> 00:23:28,533 are there drug debts? 465 00:23:28,575 --> 00:23:30,326 You know, a killing like that, you-- 466 00:23:30,368 --> 00:23:34,164 you have to concern yourself with-- with that possibility. 467 00:23:35,498 --> 00:23:37,334 LARRY: Frankie Cannon lived 468 00:23:37,375 --> 00:23:39,586 in Tony's basement for a while. 469 00:23:39,627 --> 00:23:41,838 He helped Tony sell drugs for five months. 470 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,383 So, investigators decided that they wanted to talk to Frankie. 471 00:23:45,425 --> 00:23:48,845 [*] 472 00:23:48,887 --> 00:23:51,556 HOLLY: When you're dealing with a criminal investigation, 473 00:23:51,598 --> 00:23:54,267 the path of least resistance to finding someone 474 00:23:54,309 --> 00:23:57,187 is look them up in the county system. 475 00:23:57,228 --> 00:23:59,522 Well, boom. 476 00:23:59,564 --> 00:24:02,317 Frankie Cannon is already in lockup. 477 00:24:04,027 --> 00:24:06,571 CORRINE: About three days before the incident, 478 00:24:06,613 --> 00:24:10,033 he was actually arrested for breaking into high school. 479 00:24:10,075 --> 00:24:12,744 LARRY: Frankie testified that he had burglarized 480 00:24:12,786 --> 00:24:14,704 the high school that all these people went to, 481 00:24:14,746 --> 00:24:16,623 John Jay, for the thrill of it. 482 00:24:16,664 --> 00:24:18,500 He just thought it would be fun to-- 483 00:24:18,541 --> 00:24:19,709 to burglarize a high school, 484 00:24:19,751 --> 00:24:21,503 so everybody knew exactly 485 00:24:21,544 --> 00:24:23,588 where he was when the crime occurred. 486 00:24:23,630 --> 00:24:25,423 He had the ultimate alibi. 487 00:24:25,465 --> 00:24:28,176 [*] 488 00:24:28,218 --> 00:24:31,137 LARRY: The police learned it from Frankie Cannon 489 00:24:31,179 --> 00:24:35,725 that there was a lockbox where Tony had kept the drugs 490 00:24:35,767 --> 00:24:38,436 and possibly some of his cash. 491 00:24:38,478 --> 00:24:39,896 He kept it under the bed. 492 00:24:39,938 --> 00:24:41,231 You know, he didn't do business 493 00:24:41,272 --> 00:24:42,774 in there when the children were awake. 494 00:24:42,816 --> 00:24:45,485 It was only when they weren't there. 495 00:24:45,527 --> 00:24:47,070 He was hiding the fact 496 00:24:47,112 --> 00:24:49,447 that he was dealing obviously from his kids. 497 00:24:49,489 --> 00:24:51,950 [*] 498 00:24:53,618 --> 00:24:55,704 TERRENCE: Numerous witnesses had spoken 499 00:24:55,745 --> 00:24:58,248 of a circle of friends that Tony had 500 00:24:58,289 --> 00:24:59,624 that he brought to the house. 501 00:24:59,666 --> 00:25:01,793 He was also dealing drugs 502 00:25:01,835 --> 00:25:05,380 to a lot of people in that orbit of friends. 503 00:25:05,422 --> 00:25:07,882 And Tony and Tina would have parties. 504 00:25:07,924 --> 00:25:09,551 They would have friends over. 505 00:25:09,592 --> 00:25:11,261 Some of them probably not the best 506 00:25:11,302 --> 00:25:13,763 to have around your children. 507 00:25:13,805 --> 00:25:16,099 We subsequently learned that Mr. Morey was friends 508 00:25:16,141 --> 00:25:19,644 with an individual by the name of Charlie Gilleo. 509 00:25:20,812 --> 00:25:23,690 LARRY: Charlie had gone to high school with Tony Sr. 510 00:25:23,732 --> 00:25:27,360 and they had been friends and they rode ATVs together. 511 00:25:27,402 --> 00:25:30,947 They hung out barbecues together. 512 00:25:30,989 --> 00:25:33,158 TERRENCE: Charlie Gilleo did not live too far 513 00:25:33,199 --> 00:25:34,492 from the crime scene. 514 00:25:34,534 --> 00:25:37,495 And we were just trying to get people to talk 515 00:25:37,537 --> 00:25:39,122 who knew the family to kind of 516 00:25:39,164 --> 00:25:41,207 lead us down the path of, you know, what-- 517 00:25:41,249 --> 00:25:43,209 what may have occurred. 518 00:25:43,251 --> 00:25:46,129 Investigator Lopez and I go to, uh, 519 00:25:46,171 --> 00:25:48,965 Charlie Gilleo's residence to interview him. 520 00:25:49,007 --> 00:25:51,092 When we arrived at the residence, 521 00:25:51,134 --> 00:25:53,845 he appeared disheveled that morning. 522 00:25:53,887 --> 00:25:56,973 Um, I thought his eyes were-- were a bit glassy. 523 00:25:57,015 --> 00:25:59,559 Didn't look like somebody who just got up from a-- 524 00:25:59,601 --> 00:26:00,894 from a fresh night's sleep. 525 00:26:00,935 --> 00:26:02,687 [*] 526 00:26:02,729 --> 00:26:05,231 TERRENCE: There was a cut on the, uh, right side 527 00:26:05,273 --> 00:26:06,566 of his forehead. 528 00:26:06,608 --> 00:26:09,069 It did look like to be a fresh cut. 529 00:26:09,110 --> 00:26:11,863 My next line to him was, "What happened to you?" 530 00:26:11,905 --> 00:26:16,201 And Charlie had no idea what I was talking about. 531 00:26:17,410 --> 00:26:18,995 He thought about it and he said it might've been 532 00:26:19,037 --> 00:26:21,664 while he was plodding in the woods. 533 00:26:21,706 --> 00:26:23,667 Where the cut was located on Charlie's head, 534 00:26:23,708 --> 00:26:26,252 it was relatively high on-- on his forehead. 535 00:26:26,294 --> 00:26:30,173 I asked if he was wearing a helmet 536 00:26:30,215 --> 00:26:31,883 and he said, "Yes." 537 00:26:31,925 --> 00:26:35,845 So the helmet was secured as a piece of evidence. 538 00:26:36,930 --> 00:26:39,432 It was a motorcycle type helmet. 539 00:26:39,474 --> 00:26:42,686 Uh, it'd be the type that would cover your forehead 540 00:26:42,727 --> 00:26:46,731 above your eye line up to top of your head. 541 00:26:47,565 --> 00:26:50,026 So it raises suspicions. 542 00:26:50,068 --> 00:26:51,903 If Charlie was wearing that helmet, 543 00:26:51,945 --> 00:26:53,863 I don't see how he could've gotten the cut 544 00:26:53,905 --> 00:26:56,032 along the top part of his forehead. 545 00:26:56,074 --> 00:26:59,744 [*] 546 00:26:59,786 --> 00:27:01,121 TERRENCE: It was during that interview 547 00:27:01,162 --> 00:27:02,706 that Charlie Gilleo had indicated 548 00:27:02,747 --> 00:27:04,416 that he had been at home drinking with his friend 549 00:27:04,457 --> 00:27:08,920 on the night of the murders of the Morey family. 550 00:27:08,962 --> 00:27:12,465 And he identified his friend as Mark Serrano. 551 00:27:12,507 --> 00:27:16,261 [*] 552 00:27:16,302 --> 00:27:19,180 LARRY: Mark Serrano from, uh, all indications 553 00:27:19,222 --> 00:27:21,224 was just, I don't know, a regular guy 554 00:27:21,266 --> 00:27:24,978 is the right word but certainly nothing out of the ordinary. 555 00:27:25,020 --> 00:27:26,938 He worked on a garbage truck. 556 00:27:26,980 --> 00:27:29,649 All indications were he showed up for work regularly. 557 00:27:29,691 --> 00:27:32,235 He wasn't, um, you know, a bad employee, 558 00:27:32,277 --> 00:27:35,030 just a guy who worked on a garbage truck. 559 00:27:38,241 --> 00:27:40,827 Mark Serrano was brought in to be interviewed, 560 00:27:40,869 --> 00:27:42,454 based upon the fact that Charlie Gilleo 561 00:27:42,495 --> 00:27:45,165 had indicated that he was with Mark Serrano 562 00:27:45,206 --> 00:27:47,542 on the prior night. 563 00:27:47,584 --> 00:27:51,004 Mark Serrano acknowledged that him and Charlie Gilleo 564 00:27:51,046 --> 00:27:54,341 had been home drinking the-- the prior night, 565 00:27:54,382 --> 00:27:57,469 Mr. Serrano and Mr. Gilleo had been together. 566 00:27:58,386 --> 00:28:01,097 We concluded the interview that day. 567 00:28:01,139 --> 00:28:04,184 And he provided us with his contact information, 568 00:28:04,225 --> 00:28:06,269 should we need to get ahold of him. 569 00:28:06,311 --> 00:28:09,814 [*] 570 00:28:12,650 --> 00:28:14,235 TERRENCE: Since there was some indications 571 00:28:14,277 --> 00:28:18,448 of potential drug activity by Tony Morey... 572 00:28:19,491 --> 00:28:21,618 the narcotics teams we brought in 573 00:28:21,659 --> 00:28:23,703 as another set of eyes and ears. 574 00:28:23,745 --> 00:28:26,498 You know, they're out in the street every day. 575 00:28:26,539 --> 00:28:28,500 They have different informants. 576 00:28:30,543 --> 00:28:34,464 They found Tony's supplier and he supplied Tony Morey 577 00:28:34,506 --> 00:28:37,384 with narcotics, with-- with cocaine. 578 00:28:37,425 --> 00:28:38,593 And we interviewed him. 579 00:28:38,635 --> 00:28:41,096 [*] 580 00:28:43,348 --> 00:28:44,974 TERRENCE: And he provided information 581 00:28:45,016 --> 00:28:47,977 that he did supply Tony with product. 582 00:28:48,019 --> 00:28:49,646 But there was still information that we-- 583 00:28:49,688 --> 00:28:53,525 we felt that he was with-- withholding. 584 00:28:53,566 --> 00:28:56,820 Eventually, he told us that he had sold drugs 585 00:28:56,861 --> 00:29:00,031 to Mark Serrano on the evening of the 18th, 586 00:29:00,073 --> 00:29:03,993 the night of the murders of the Morey family. 587 00:29:05,620 --> 00:29:08,873 About $8,200 worth of cocaine 588 00:29:08,915 --> 00:29:13,420 being sold to Mark Serrano and Charlie Gilleo, 589 00:29:13,461 --> 00:29:17,007 and the sale took place in the parking lot of Wendy's 590 00:29:17,048 --> 00:29:19,884 on Route 9 in the town of Fishkill. 591 00:29:19,926 --> 00:29:22,721 He told investigators that Serrano and Gilleo 592 00:29:22,762 --> 00:29:26,766 weren't at home all night like they said they were. 593 00:29:26,808 --> 00:29:29,019 They left the house. 594 00:29:29,060 --> 00:29:32,022 They went out and bought drugs. 595 00:29:32,397 --> 00:29:34,065 Serrano and Gilleo had told the police 596 00:29:43,658 --> 00:29:46,870 that they were at home all night. 597 00:29:46,911 --> 00:29:48,872 According to this supplier, 598 00:29:48,913 --> 00:29:51,416 he had sold drugs 599 00:29:51,458 --> 00:29:55,628 the night of the murders to Serrano and Gilleo. 600 00:29:55,670 --> 00:29:58,256 They're not telling the truth to police. 601 00:29:58,298 --> 00:30:01,176 What else are they lying about? 602 00:30:03,178 --> 00:30:05,013 TERRENCE: There was no indication of forced entry 603 00:30:05,055 --> 00:30:06,598 and the Moreys knew 604 00:30:06,639 --> 00:30:09,100 both Mark Serrano and Charlie Gilleo. 605 00:30:09,142 --> 00:30:11,061 They've been to the home before. 606 00:30:11,102 --> 00:30:13,188 They've had barbecues there. 607 00:30:13,229 --> 00:30:14,856 So the decision was made to see 608 00:30:14,898 --> 00:30:18,401 if Mr. Serrano and Mr. Gilleo had been in the vicinity 609 00:30:18,443 --> 00:30:19,736 of the crime scene, 610 00:30:19,778 --> 00:30:23,531 the night of the murders of the Morey family. 611 00:30:26,368 --> 00:30:28,661 IRA: So at that point, the investigators 612 00:30:28,703 --> 00:30:30,330 contacted us at the Hudson Valley 613 00:30:30,372 --> 00:30:32,415 Transportation Management Center. 614 00:30:32,457 --> 00:30:34,751 They advised us that the vehicles 615 00:30:34,793 --> 00:30:36,836 we would be most concentrating on 616 00:30:36,878 --> 00:30:40,632 were registered to Mr. Gilleo and Mark Serrano. 617 00:30:42,008 --> 00:30:44,928 With the license plate meter, we were able to put 618 00:30:44,969 --> 00:30:47,055 Mark Serrano's car 619 00:30:47,097 --> 00:30:51,518 at the time of the murder at the Morey house. 620 00:30:54,562 --> 00:30:57,691 It was definitely an aha moment. 621 00:30:57,732 --> 00:30:59,192 That's significant information 622 00:30:59,234 --> 00:31:01,820 that puts, uh, at least the car 623 00:31:01,861 --> 00:31:06,074 and whoever was driving that car in the vicinity of the-- 624 00:31:06,116 --> 00:31:07,575 the crime scene. 625 00:31:09,703 --> 00:31:11,246 The night of the murders, 626 00:31:11,287 --> 00:31:14,457 Mr. Gilleo, Mr. Serrano were together. 627 00:31:14,499 --> 00:31:15,709 They were partying. 628 00:31:15,750 --> 00:31:17,711 Maybe they wanted more drugs 629 00:31:17,752 --> 00:31:20,964 and Tony's a drug dealer. 630 00:31:21,006 --> 00:31:22,799 Maybe there was an argument. 631 00:31:25,176 --> 00:31:27,220 During the course of our interviews, 632 00:31:27,262 --> 00:31:29,723 there was information from a few witnesses 633 00:31:29,764 --> 00:31:33,226 that Tony had indicated that he and Charlie Gilleo 634 00:31:33,268 --> 00:31:35,270 had a bit of a falling out, 635 00:31:35,311 --> 00:31:38,565 and that he had to get away from Charlie. 636 00:31:38,606 --> 00:31:41,484 Their argument had been over drugs. 637 00:31:43,111 --> 00:31:47,949 ARLENE: Charlie and Tony had a big fight that weekend 638 00:31:47,991 --> 00:31:50,076 before my family's murder, 639 00:31:50,118 --> 00:31:52,162 and it was a big blowout. 640 00:31:52,203 --> 00:31:55,749 Tony told Charlie, "Do not call here anymore. 641 00:31:55,790 --> 00:31:57,751 Stay away from us. 642 00:31:57,792 --> 00:31:59,669 Stay away from my wife. 643 00:31:59,711 --> 00:32:02,005 Stay away from my kids. 644 00:32:02,047 --> 00:32:04,924 Stay away from me." 645 00:32:04,966 --> 00:32:07,719 TERRENCE: One particular perso that was interviewed 646 00:32:07,761 --> 00:32:10,430 said that, uh, Tony had told him 647 00:32:10,472 --> 00:32:13,391 that he was afraid for his-- his family, 648 00:32:13,433 --> 00:32:16,186 and that there had been a threat made by-- by Charlie 649 00:32:16,227 --> 00:32:19,731 regarding, um, him burning down Tony's house. 650 00:32:19,773 --> 00:32:21,441 One of the witnesses even said that-- 651 00:32:21,483 --> 00:32:24,652 that Charlie had pulled a knife out. 652 00:32:30,283 --> 00:32:32,202 At that point in time, we really only had 653 00:32:32,243 --> 00:32:33,620 a circumstantial case 654 00:32:33,661 --> 00:32:36,831 against Charlie Gilleo and Mark Serrano. 655 00:32:37,832 --> 00:32:39,626 We really needed forensic evidence. 656 00:32:39,668 --> 00:32:43,088 [*] 657 00:32:43,129 --> 00:32:45,298 LARRY: There was a lake called Dutchess Lake 658 00:32:45,340 --> 00:32:49,094 and a kid who was playing hockey on the part of the lake 659 00:32:49,135 --> 00:32:50,804 that was frozen, found a knife. 660 00:32:50,845 --> 00:32:55,392 It wasn't under the water, it was in the weeds nearby. 661 00:32:55,433 --> 00:32:58,269 TERRENCE: The proximity of the-- the little lake 662 00:32:58,311 --> 00:33:00,855 where Mark Serrano was living at the time is-- 663 00:33:00,897 --> 00:33:02,232 is very close. 664 00:33:02,273 --> 00:33:03,358 It's right within the development 665 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:04,859 and Charlie carried, um, 666 00:33:04,901 --> 00:33:07,487 what was described by one as a Rambo-type knife. 667 00:33:07,529 --> 00:33:10,615 So that knife was secured. 668 00:33:11,533 --> 00:33:15,286 And then we called in our dive unit. 669 00:33:15,328 --> 00:33:18,748 A dive was conducted for any other evidence that-- 670 00:33:18,790 --> 00:33:22,544 that might be found in the lake along with the knife. 671 00:33:24,379 --> 00:33:28,508 LARRY: A state police diver found a pair of underwear 672 00:33:28,550 --> 00:33:30,802 that had hearts on it and Hershey's Kisses. 673 00:33:30,844 --> 00:33:33,263 They were just kind of novelty pair of underwear, 674 00:33:33,304 --> 00:33:36,474 and there was blood found on-- on the underwear. 675 00:33:39,310 --> 00:33:42,272 CORINNE: They found the lockbox in the lake. 676 00:33:42,313 --> 00:33:44,315 TERRENCE: And they recovered a firearm 677 00:33:44,357 --> 00:33:46,067 as part of their dive. 678 00:33:46,109 --> 00:33:50,530 Just forensic evidence, it was sent to processing. 679 00:33:50,572 --> 00:33:52,615 LARRY: Investigators learned that the underwear 680 00:33:52,657 --> 00:33:56,369 was something that Serrano's girlfriend had given him. 681 00:33:56,411 --> 00:33:58,621 They did DNA on the underwear, 682 00:33:58,663 --> 00:34:01,082 and most of the blood that was found 683 00:34:01,124 --> 00:34:02,584 was from the children. 684 00:34:04,711 --> 00:34:07,630 TERRENCE: Ballistics connected the guns recovered in the lake 685 00:34:07,672 --> 00:34:11,092 to the murders of Tony and Tina Morey. 686 00:34:11,134 --> 00:34:13,970 And additionally, through, uh, interviews that were conducted 687 00:34:14,012 --> 00:34:18,600 in the case, that weapon was linked to Mark Serrano. 688 00:34:21,186 --> 00:34:23,897 LARRY: The layperson who doesn't know anything 689 00:34:23,938 --> 00:34:26,524 about forensics probably believes 690 00:34:26,566 --> 00:34:30,070 that setting a fire to a house will destroy evidence, 691 00:34:30,111 --> 00:34:32,822 and to some extent, it does. 692 00:34:32,864 --> 00:34:35,658 TERRENCE: There was a lot of processing on the house 693 00:34:35,700 --> 00:34:40,455 and over 200 items of evidence were admitted. 694 00:34:41,289 --> 00:34:43,667 That bloody palm print was found, 695 00:34:43,708 --> 00:34:47,462 was analyzed, and it came back as a positive 696 00:34:47,504 --> 00:34:49,964 for being that of Mr. Serrano. 697 00:34:51,966 --> 00:34:54,886 [*] 698 00:34:54,928 --> 00:34:56,888 TERRENCE: A search was conducted 699 00:34:56,930 --> 00:34:59,391 by our Troop K Forensic ID Unit 700 00:34:59,432 --> 00:35:01,768 of Serrano's house. 701 00:35:01,810 --> 00:35:04,479 LARRY: He drove a Nissan X-Terra, 702 00:35:04,521 --> 00:35:06,940 and his seat covers had been pulled off, 703 00:35:06,981 --> 00:35:10,652 and police found blood from the children 704 00:35:10,694 --> 00:35:12,445 from the seat covers that he had hidden 705 00:35:12,487 --> 00:35:14,989 under the sink in his kitchen. 706 00:35:18,493 --> 00:35:20,787 TERRENCE: The decision was mad at the point in time 707 00:35:20,829 --> 00:35:22,664 to arrest Serrano. 708 00:35:24,249 --> 00:35:27,252 LARRY: After his arrest, I don't think Serrano 709 00:35:27,293 --> 00:35:29,754 ever told the same story twice. 710 00:35:29,796 --> 00:35:32,966 Investigators interviewed him for nine hours. 711 00:35:33,008 --> 00:35:35,802 He acknowledged that he was with Gilleo that night, 712 00:35:35,844 --> 00:35:39,139 that they were looking for drugs. 713 00:35:39,180 --> 00:35:41,266 Basically said, "Yeah, I was-- I was there, 714 00:35:41,307 --> 00:35:43,518 but Charlie was the one that went in 715 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:44,644 and did all the stuff. 716 00:35:44,686 --> 00:35:46,187 And then he, you know, he came out 717 00:35:46,229 --> 00:35:47,480 and the place was on fire. 718 00:35:47,522 --> 00:35:49,566 I didn't know what was going on." 719 00:35:49,607 --> 00:35:53,403 Essentially, he puts Charlie as the killer. 720 00:35:55,613 --> 00:35:59,409 When the police came to arrest Charlie Gilleo, 721 00:35:59,451 --> 00:36:01,786 they thoroughly searched his house. 722 00:36:01,828 --> 00:36:03,496 TERRENCE: Search was conducted 723 00:36:03,538 --> 00:36:06,207 Uh, nothing of forensic value 724 00:36:06,249 --> 00:36:09,336 was found as a result of that search. 725 00:36:09,377 --> 00:36:11,171 Charlie got into the interview room. 726 00:36:11,212 --> 00:36:14,049 He didn't make any admissions during that interview. 727 00:36:15,425 --> 00:36:16,843 I left the interview room. 728 00:36:16,885 --> 00:36:20,305 There's a two-way mirror we can see in. 729 00:36:20,347 --> 00:36:22,140 And Charlie was kind of 730 00:36:22,182 --> 00:36:24,142 mumbling to himself, shaking his head. 731 00:36:24,184 --> 00:36:26,519 There's a point in time he-- he looked up at the ceiling, 732 00:36:26,561 --> 00:36:28,355 and he says, "Why Tony? Why Tony? 733 00:36:28,396 --> 00:36:30,398 Why are you doing this to me?" 734 00:36:33,318 --> 00:36:35,695 Later in the investigation, 735 00:36:35,737 --> 00:36:39,824 Tony's drug supplier was arrested for drug sale. 736 00:36:39,866 --> 00:36:42,911 And he called me while he was in custody. 737 00:36:42,952 --> 00:36:45,413 And we got permission to interview him. 738 00:36:45,455 --> 00:36:47,957 And he provided that missing bit of information 739 00:36:47,999 --> 00:36:50,168 on Charlie Gilleo. 740 00:36:50,210 --> 00:36:54,714 He received a call from Charlie Gilleo 741 00:36:54,756 --> 00:36:56,841 that morning of the murders. 742 00:36:56,883 --> 00:37:00,220 The sum and substance of the message was that 743 00:37:00,261 --> 00:37:02,555 the Morey family was-- was gone. 744 00:37:03,932 --> 00:37:06,267 At that point in time, there wasn't any information 745 00:37:06,309 --> 00:37:09,187 that was released to the public 746 00:37:09,229 --> 00:37:11,648 regarding the-- the crime. 747 00:37:11,690 --> 00:37:16,403 So this was very odd information for Mr. Gilleo 748 00:37:16,820 --> 00:37:18,780 TERRENCE: Charlie Gilleo and Mark Serrano 749 00:37:28,415 --> 00:37:29,874 had been arrested for the murders 750 00:37:29,916 --> 00:37:32,377 of the Morey family. 751 00:37:32,419 --> 00:37:35,547 There was a lot of direct evidence 752 00:37:35,588 --> 00:37:39,050 against, uh, Mr. Serrano where the gun is found, 753 00:37:39,092 --> 00:37:43,555 the knife, the mobile data plate reader. 754 00:37:44,264 --> 00:37:45,724 There was a lot of evidence 755 00:37:45,765 --> 00:37:48,059 pointing towards Charlie Gilleo as well, 756 00:37:48,101 --> 00:37:49,352 but it was what you would call a-- 757 00:37:49,394 --> 00:37:51,730 a circumstantial case. 758 00:37:51,771 --> 00:37:54,566 And we had the call to the supplier, 759 00:37:54,607 --> 00:37:58,820 Charlie indicated that they killed the Morey family. 760 00:37:58,862 --> 00:38:02,115 Larry: There was never any forensic evidence 761 00:38:02,157 --> 00:38:04,200 linking Gilleo to the crime. 762 00:38:04,242 --> 00:38:05,410 There was no blood evidence, 763 00:38:05,452 --> 00:38:07,662 there was nothing found in his home. 764 00:38:07,704 --> 00:38:10,749 So in this case, the prosecutor needed Serrano 765 00:38:10,790 --> 00:38:12,834 to testify against Charlie. 766 00:38:12,876 --> 00:38:15,420 That's the crux of the state's case 767 00:38:15,462 --> 00:38:16,963 against Charlie. 768 00:38:20,508 --> 00:38:24,721 TERRENCE: Mr. Serrano went to trial in late 2007. 769 00:38:24,763 --> 00:38:28,975 Mr. Gilleo subsequently went to trial in 2008. 770 00:38:30,143 --> 00:38:33,563 Mr. Serrano did testify against him at trial. 771 00:38:34,814 --> 00:38:38,234 ARLENE: Mark was on the witness stand 772 00:38:38,276 --> 00:38:40,236 and he told what happened. 773 00:38:42,655 --> 00:38:45,367 11:35 that night, 774 00:38:45,408 --> 00:38:48,620 Mark and Charlie come in. 775 00:38:48,661 --> 00:38:51,289 Charlie said to Tony, "Let's go out." 776 00:38:51,331 --> 00:38:54,334 Tina says, "No. He's high enough. 777 00:38:54,376 --> 00:38:55,919 We're going to bed." 778 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,756 Tony turned around and went like this... 779 00:38:59,798 --> 00:39:01,466 to Charlie, 780 00:39:01,508 --> 00:39:03,176 and that's when Charlie went... 781 00:39:03,218 --> 00:39:05,178 [ Whistles ] 782 00:39:05,220 --> 00:39:06,971 Right to his neck. 783 00:39:07,013 --> 00:39:08,264 Shot him. 784 00:39:08,306 --> 00:39:10,016 Down he goes dead. 785 00:39:10,058 --> 00:39:12,394 I think if you're dealing with two individuals 786 00:39:12,435 --> 00:39:14,646 who are under the influence, 787 00:39:14,688 --> 00:39:17,107 there's no understanding why a person 788 00:39:17,148 --> 00:39:18,900 would commit such violent act. 789 00:39:18,942 --> 00:39:21,528 ARLENE: Tina gets up from the couch. 790 00:39:21,569 --> 00:39:25,490 Looks over, "What the eff did you do to my husband?" 791 00:39:25,532 --> 00:39:26,825 He'd turn around, 792 00:39:26,866 --> 00:39:28,993 shot her right in the mouth. 793 00:39:29,035 --> 00:39:31,287 She turns to run. 794 00:39:31,329 --> 00:39:33,289 Shoots her in the side. 795 00:39:34,874 --> 00:39:36,251 She goes down. 796 00:39:36,292 --> 00:39:40,505 Walks over to her and shoots her in the head. 797 00:39:40,547 --> 00:39:43,717 And her baby son, Ryan, moves there, 798 00:39:43,758 --> 00:39:45,719 watched the whole thing. 799 00:39:47,095 --> 00:39:50,515 TERRENCE: Ryan ran upstairs and they had come up 800 00:39:50,557 --> 00:39:53,810 and stabbed Adam first. 801 00:39:53,852 --> 00:39:57,147 ARLENE: Adam is the only one still mid sound asleep. 802 00:39:59,149 --> 00:40:00,942 Cut his throat. 803 00:40:00,984 --> 00:40:03,945 The firemen found him angel position 804 00:40:03,987 --> 00:40:06,031 with his eyes open. 805 00:40:06,072 --> 00:40:09,951 TERRENCE: Tony Jr. woke up, engaged in a struggle. 806 00:40:09,993 --> 00:40:14,205 ARLENE: They found Tony Jr. backed up in a corner. 807 00:40:14,247 --> 00:40:16,750 The mattress over him... 808 00:40:16,791 --> 00:40:20,462 he was stabbed 82 times. 809 00:40:20,503 --> 00:40:22,630 Ryan was screaming, 810 00:40:22,672 --> 00:40:26,593 "Stop stabbing my brother. Stop stabbing him. 811 00:40:26,634 --> 00:40:29,554 Stop stabbing my brother." 812 00:40:29,596 --> 00:40:30,930 TERRENCE: Ryan ran downstairs 813 00:40:30,972 --> 00:40:34,392 and Charlie Gilleo followed him... 814 00:40:34,434 --> 00:40:37,354 and-- and was bludgeoned there. 815 00:40:37,395 --> 00:40:41,649 ARLENE: And for some reason, there was pickaxe handle, 816 00:40:41,691 --> 00:40:43,985 and he picks it up. 817 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:51,910 I can't-- I can't-- I can't say. 818 00:40:51,951 --> 00:40:55,121 I can't go any further. [ Sobs ] 819 00:40:56,247 --> 00:40:58,958 LARRY: Serrano said that he went outside 820 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,753 and then Charlie came flying out of the house. 821 00:41:01,795 --> 00:41:05,965 He got into Tony's car and he drove it, 822 00:41:06,007 --> 00:41:07,967 and then he threw something in the car, 823 00:41:08,009 --> 00:41:11,262 and it went boom, and, uh, that car was on fire, 824 00:41:11,304 --> 00:41:14,432 it was, um, Charlie trying desperately 825 00:41:14,474 --> 00:41:16,559 to get rid of this evidence 826 00:41:16,601 --> 00:41:18,311 of what he had done inside. 827 00:41:20,188 --> 00:41:23,108 TERRENCE: That night, it was possible that they were-- 828 00:41:23,149 --> 00:41:27,696 they were all partying, Tony, Charlie, Mark. 829 00:41:27,737 --> 00:41:29,531 Maybe they wanted more drugs. 830 00:41:29,572 --> 00:41:33,034 Maybe there were no drugs. Maybe there was an argument. 831 00:41:33,076 --> 00:41:35,495 I can't even begin to get inside their head 832 00:41:35,537 --> 00:41:38,081 as to what went wrong. 833 00:41:38,123 --> 00:41:41,501 But something went drastically wrong that night 834 00:41:41,543 --> 00:41:46,381 and forever changed the story of the Morey family. 835 00:41:48,675 --> 00:41:50,468 Mark Serrano upon conviction, 836 00:41:50,510 --> 00:41:52,095 he was sentenced and his sentence, 837 00:41:52,137 --> 00:41:55,306 I believe was a minimum of, uh, 50 years 838 00:41:55,348 --> 00:41:58,351 to, uh, life in imprisonment. 839 00:41:58,393 --> 00:42:00,895 LARRY: Ultimately, Judge Dolan sentenced Charlie 840 00:42:00,937 --> 00:42:05,942 to five consecutive life terms for the five deaths. 841 00:42:05,984 --> 00:42:08,737 He just wiped out five people. 842 00:42:08,778 --> 00:42:10,613 He's claimed he's innocent. 843 00:42:10,655 --> 00:42:11,865 He walked out of the courtroom 844 00:42:11,906 --> 00:42:13,491 and actually winked at my aunt. 845 00:42:13,533 --> 00:42:15,160 And you literally are just smiling 846 00:42:15,201 --> 00:42:17,412 and you walk out smirking and winked at her, at-- 847 00:42:17,454 --> 00:42:19,122 winked at the mother, Tina's mother. 848 00:42:19,164 --> 00:42:21,875 That's an animal. That's not a human. 849 00:42:21,916 --> 00:42:25,211 [*] 850 00:42:44,230 --> 00:42:47,734 CORINNE: It's just crazy how think about their entire life. 851 00:42:47,776 --> 00:42:50,612 All their teenage years, all the quads and riding 852 00:42:50,653 --> 00:42:52,030 that they would have been able to do, 853 00:42:52,072 --> 00:42:54,491 all of what they should have been able to do, 854 00:42:54,532 --> 00:42:56,117 just taken. 855 00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:58,870 This is not how it's supposed to be. 856 00:42:58,912 --> 00:43:02,999 ARLENE: I miss their laughter. I miss their smiles. 857 00:43:04,084 --> 00:43:07,587 I still miss my kids and see these others 858 00:43:07,629 --> 00:43:12,050 with their grandkids, and I sit there and say, 859 00:43:12,092 --> 00:43:15,011 "I wonder what mine would have been doing now. 860 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,432 Would I be a great grandma by now?" 861 00:43:21,559 --> 00:43:24,688 I'll never be. 862 00:43:24,729 --> 00:43:26,898 You know, and that hurts... 863 00:43:27,565 --> 00:43:29,234 every single day. 864 00:43:29,275 --> 00:43:29,401 [*]