Hey! Hey, everybody! Boom!
Welcome to show-- -Yeah.
...four, five of seasons. I don't know.
I'm not keeping track.
My name is Jon Stewart and I'm excited to announce
that the 2022 midterm election is finally upon us.
Which means the 2024 election is now officially underway.
I wonder what that will mean for the 2026 midterms.
They're engineering viruses to make them more deadly and more virulent.
No, no, no. I promised I wouldn't talk about that.
They're going to fucking kill us all.
Not important.
My main point is this:
Midterms, it's not just a referendum on crime and abortion,
but on something even more central.
The most important midterm election in American history.
It's not hyperbole to suggest right now, democracy itself on the ballot as well.
Joe Biden is right.
Democracy is on the ballot in November.
Democracy itself is on the ballot.
You may be confused because you thought that like Joy Behar on The View,
democracy has a lifetime appointment in this country.
Turns out, not so much.
Apparently, democracy is running again for its second 246-year term.
By the way, I think in its first year it defeated Chuck Grassley.
True story.
And our two current presidents agree.
Just checking.
Insuring that our last election ever will be free and fair,
is our highest priority.
At all costs, we must defend the sacred integrity of our elections.
We have to protect that sacred right to vote, for God's sake.
Yea, it is written
that on the first Tuesday of the eleventh month
in even years of our Lord,
the faithful shall head to a little school gym...
whereby battling the mildewy aroma of puberty sweat,
they shall enter the cloister booth
and thou shall receive a sticker!
He bears the mark!
The mark of the damned!
Yes, we must protect our sacred democracy.
Of course, each party has different ideas
about the best way to protect the franchise.
For instance, the Democrats.
Here in Virginia, we've expanded early votes 45 days.
Register online and on election day.
Automatic voter registration.
We expanded vote by mail drop-box locations.
No excuse absentee ballots.
Make Election Day a holiday.
Let people vote just by thinking about a candidate.
Never end the voting.
Bisexuals get two votes.
Of course, Republicans have a different approach known as, "Prove it."
We need signature verification.
Require voter ID for absentee ballots.
We need to have photo identification of voters.
Registration. You have to re-register.
You have to prove you're a citizen. -You need to show your social security.
All same day registrants and urban voters must jerk off in a cup.
Put it on the sink and fill it to the line.
If you don't fill it to the line,
that's a felony.
Democrats expand. Republicans verify to contract.
Both parties gerrymander.
It's two distinct approaches to American democracy.
And despite the partisan jockeying,
it's been remarkably durable and resilient.
But even the best systems are not foolproof.
Governor Bush's official lead in Florida is 537 votes
out of nearly six million cast.
A margin of 0.009%.
In 2000, the presidential election came down to just 537 votes
out of the six million in Florida and over 100 million nationwide.
I don't care how meticulous a system you build,
with margins that thin, it will not be accurate enough
to truly trust who won.
And chaos ensued.
There were armies of bug-eyed gentlemen
deployed to best decipher
the intentions of elderly Jews' butterfly ballots.
"I thought I voted for pastrami."
"Is this not a menu?"
Ultimately, the Supreme Court stepped in
and George W. Bush was declared the winner.
And of course we all know he went on to do a really great job.
I don't remember.
Ladies and gentlemen, Oscar-winner Al Gore.
While I strongly disagree with the court's decision,
I accept it. It's time for me to go.
A graceful exit in an election decided by one state
with a margin of 0.009%
for an electoral college count of 271 to 266.
Razor thin.
So flash forward with me if you will.
The year is 2020.
Donald J. Trump has lost by seven million in the popular vote,
232 to 306 in the electoral vote,
and a combined almost 300,000 votes
in the five most contested swing states.
Ass me kicking, his response.
And thus, the problem with elections.
Yes, it turns out the ultimate test of a democracy is not the vote,
but the acceptance of said vote.
In 2000, our sacred democracy withstood a contested margin of error
so small that we may never actually know who won the election.
In 2020, our democracy remains on life support
after a run-of-the-mill electoral and popular vote beatdown.
And 70% of Republicans still insist Donald Trump won.
So we've now moved from "Every vote is sacred"
to "Democracy is in the eye of the beholder."
Trump got dumped, so why does he think he won?
Let's check Arizona.
Maricopa County, it appears that 143,000 illegal votes
were actually injected into the ballot system. Think of that.
The communists have a baster
and have artificially inseminated the vote.
In Maricopa County. Injecting it.
And reality says...
The audit confirms that Joe Biden did win in Maricopa County.
In fact, the auditors did their hand count giving Biden, ultimately,
an even larger margin of victory.
What say you, Michigan?
In one Michigan county, as an example,
that used Dominion Systems,
they found that nearly 6,000 votes had been wrongly switched...
from Trump to Biden.
Oh, my God. That's terrible.
Reality, what say you?
A hand count of every ballot cast for president in Antrim County,
found that the Dominion machines used there were extremely accurate.
By the way, the ASL interpreter was telling Donald Trump to fuck off.
Georgia. Now this-- Fucking--
This is Donald Trump.
Two months after he lost the election,
still technically president of the United States,
on the phone with the Republican Secretary of State in Georgia,
reading aloud an email someone's QAnon grandmother sent him.
So, dead people voted.
And I think the number is in-- approx--
close to 5,000 people.
Holy shit! 5,000 dead people voted.
How do you gently explain
to the still-sitting president of the United States
how fucked up that idea is?
Well, Mr. President, the challenge that you have
is the data you have is wrong.
The actual number were two. Two.
Two people that were dead that voted.
And so, that's wrong. That was two.
And both of those votes were just write-ins for brains.
I so admire the Secretary of the State of Georgia
for not ending that conversation with, "You dumb motherfucker."
All right. So none of the accusations of fraud turned out to be accurate.
Anything else you'd like to mention to the Republican Secretary of State
in Georgia who actually voted for you?
So, look, all I wanna do is this. I just wanna find
11,780 votes,
which is one more than we have.
Listen, teach, all I'm saying is if you take the F
and you just put a line on the side of it,
it's an A.
And then if you put a plus right there, then--
I'm the valedictorian is what I'm saying.
Ultimately, Trump's electoral challenges,
whether in the courts or through audits,
have shown this past presidential election to be well-run and accurate.
And his own Department of Homeland Security said as much.
But rather than be humbled on the sacred altar of democracy,
Trump and his team were emboldened to figure out a way
around the one thing that got in their way.
Voters.
We're going to take over the election apparatus,
volunteer to become an election official,
run for county clerk and overthrow these county clerks,
take over the secretaries of state.
I can't stress enough
how important the secretary of state offices are.
We control the election system.
What could possibly go wrong with a vote counter
who's dressed as a magician?
What's that you need?
Ba-ba-ba-ba-bum.
11,780 votes!
Abracadabra!
But wait, elections are generally run by administrators.
They're partisans, but they're not ideologues
or zealots or crazy people.
And they generally do a thorough and credible and competent job.
And they're in those positions for a long time.
So how you gonna get rid of them?
Threats and stalking prompt a mass exodus of an entire elections office
in the Texas hill country.
People who are telling you they're repeatedly gonna come hang you.
They'd have a picture of my house and my address.
It says, "Sleep with one eye open."
One in six elections workers report being threatened or harassed.
One in three have left their posts because of safety concerns.
And maybe the most incredible part of what is more than likely
an existential threat to what's been built in this country
over the past couple of hundred years
is how not secret the plan is.
If you look at the way they counted the ballots,
remember, the ballot counter
is far more important, sadly in our country,
than the candidate.
"The candidate."
"It's more important than the candida--"
What a playful read on a quote often attributed to Stalin.
"One death is a tragedy, but a million's a statistic."
"With the flavin'."
Take a look at this.
You know we love elections here.
Obsessed with elections.
But the truth is... -...we're not that interested in...
...how our government works... -...because...
...reporting on... -...governance...
...is boring.
We're more interested in... -...horse races...
...and gossip. -Oh, yes.
So we speculate.
Always asking...
...how does everything... -...affect...
...the midterm elections?
How might the end of Roe v. Wade impact the midterms?
Will the economy impact the midterms?
What about gas prices?
What about immigration?
Manafort, Michael Cohen...
Well, you know-- -...the Mullin investigation.
Could it impact the midterms?
What will voters think of Senator Marco Rubio
hitting a kid in the face with a football?
What do the polls tell us?
Because, of course... -...we don't know.
We just, sort off... -...jerk off.
So, to recap... -Governance...
We don't care. -Midterm elections?
I get all civically tingly. -Oh, yeah.
The stakes are rising. -Oh, my God.
We're building to these big moments.
Oh, my God!
Excuse me. I gotta get a tissue.
That's why people--
That's why people keep tissues by their desk.
So who are the people on the front lines of ensuring our election integrity?
Being the guardrail of not just voter fraud,
but administrative shenanigans?
Joining us today, we have Teresa De Graaf,
a Republican clerk for Port Sheldon Township, Michigan.
Virginia Chau, an independent and part-time poll supervisor
and trainer in Denver, Colorado.
And Adrian Fontes, former county recorder for Maricopa County, Arizona,
who is now the democratic nominee for Arizona's secretary of state.
Welcome, everyone.
Delighted you could join us.
Adrian...
I wanna start with you.
Maricopa County is the center of this, at least publicly,
because of how demonstrative the Arizonans were
outside of the place where they were counting votes.
And by "demonstrative," I mean "armed."
Well, not just armed,
but we had a moment where Alex Jones and the Q Shaman themselves
were literally linked arm-in-arm,
yelling my name, telling me to count all the votes.
And I wish they had been a little quieter, 'cause that's actually what we were doing.
So it was really, really an incredible sight out there.
We had to put a big perimeter fence and depend greatly on security.
We had to have folks escorting the workers in the warehouse
back and forth to their vehicles with rifles.
Because they were armed. -Because they were afraid...
Well, you-- -...of their lives, going to their cars
after sitting and counting the ballots in Maricopa County by hand.
Doing a lot of the adjudication and the other stuff that happens there.
Yeah. Yeah. -Right.
Now, Teresa, you do this in a very different environment.
You are an election administrator in--
How big is the area that you administrate?
We're typically 6,000 people,
and we have about 4,600 voters.
So you have 4,600 voters,
and I would imagine they all know each other to some extent.
This is a small town.
It is a small town.
So what has it been like for you?
I don't imagine there's the Q Shaman and Alex Jones showing up,
but are you feeling the pressure of this kind of accusation?
Absolutely,
because what happens is, people come in
and they challenge everything that we do.
They're challenging every process.
They don't believe that we're doing the-- following the law.
And so they're challenging everything we do.
Every procedure.
But you're clearly a devious person
doing this for financial gain.
Absolutely. -I mean--
I think I speak for the audience when I say,
"We just sniffed this one out."
But, Teresa, these are your neighbors.
Is it 2020 that just changed everything?
It is. It is. 2020 changed it. And as people come in--
Since 2020, I feel like I could talk people off the cliff.
And when they came in, I could talk sense into them.
But as time has gone on, they keep believing the lie.
And they keep believing that what I'm doing is not accurate.
What I'm doing, I'm not following the law somehow.
Do they believe you're in on it?
I don't know that they believe I'm in on it,
but they definitely don't trust me, I don't think, anymore.
Right.
Virginia, you're actually-- So you're in Denver.
You're an independent. And you train poll workers.
Yes, I supervise them at the site, and I train them.
Have you seen a change since 2020
and is this anything that anybody has faced previously?
Absolutely.
First and foremost, like, I'm, like, a normal person.
I don't do this as a full-time thing.
This is for two weeks, you know,
out of the year.
And I did it because it's the American thing to do.
And now-- -You can say community service
to get out of going to jail. It's fine. -Okay.
But it-- I mean, it's hard getting people to want to even participate now,
'cause we don't have protections
for poll workers or for elected officials,
like yourself here.
The normal thing would be,
we train you to get the signature, check it, give them the thing.
And now-- Do you have to train them,
"Here's what you do if someone tries to unplug a voting machine"?
"Here's what you do if they show up armed"?
Is that what we've come to?
The truth is, there's no structure. There's no training for that.
You don't know what to do until things happen.
And there's no laws in place if, like, someone calls your name.
You know, someone talks about voting fraud.
That's only when we can call someone, if we have the financial resources,
to get someone down there to be like,
"Okay, let's monitor. Let's have some police there, or someplace better."
One of the interesting shifts here is an incident we had
during the general election in 2018.
It was one of our biggest security incidences that we had.
This is in Maricopa County? -This is in Maricopa County, Arizona.
General election 2018.
We had a rattlesnake in the parking lot at Pinnacle Peak precinct.
Sure, I'm from Jersey. I get that. -That was it.
But the fact that you're asking a question about,
"Do you have training about what happens if somebody armed shows up?"
If somebody's making actual physical threats.
That's how far we've come in this very, very short period of time.
And that's why when we say what's happening is dangerous
for our democracy
and literally the survival of this republic, that's what we mean.
Are people fleeing those administrative positions?
They aren't necessarily,
but you should see their eyes when we train them and we say,
"This is what you need to do in case there's an active shooter."
"This is what you need to do..." -Oh, my God.
"...if someone comes in with-- They're actively--"
We have open carry in our state, in Michigan.
So if someone comes in-- -You talking booze or guns?
I'm talking guns.
But not booze. -Not booze.
But...
"Hey, man. Can I bring my AR in here?"
"Sure." -"And my Budweiser?"
"Tut, tut, tut!"
"We have rules!"
But, Jon, I literally had a voter that came in and got an absent voter ballot,
within the last two weeks, that said,
"We haven't voted absent voter before, but I'm not gonna come to the polls,
because I don't wanna encounter someone with an AR on their back."
Oh, dear God.
And-- -And do they believe--
I'm so curious. Is it that those that believe the election is fraudulent,
do they not understand that there are checks and balances
within these local systems, these county systems,
these city systems,
that adjudicate the dead people and the signatures?
That's part of this, is it not? -Well, it is part of it.
Elections are the golden thread that run through the whole fabric of our society.
You pull that thread out, the entire thing disintegrates.
And we are on the cusp of that right now. That's what's scary.
And that's what folks like us and so many tens of thousands
across the country are fighting against. -Right.
What's so interesting to me is, Teresa and Virginia,
I feel like, you know,
we've out put upon you this idea that you are now the last guardrail.
You are the bulwark
that's going to keep that fabric from unraveling.
And I guess my question is,
are you getting the support that you need to be on that wall?
We need you on that wall, and what kind of support are you getting
or do you feel abandoned in any way?
Well, I feel like we're getting a lot of support with the security part of it.
We've had training
probably multiple times a week in the last few weeks on security.
But our legislature in Michigan just passed some drop box laws.
They enacted the law--
A change in the election law.
Right. And we had literally two-and-a-half weeks
to comply with some of the drop box law that they made.
And we have to get things certified and we can't even do it.
So-- -And all based on a suspicion
that in no way has any evidence behind it.
Right. -Virginia,
are they doing the same thing in Denver?
I mean, in Colorado, I know at the Denver polling places,
people come in 'cause they feel like they have to check in on you.
And there's no really rules in place that you can't come in and, like, watch.
And for us, right, it's really hard,
especially if you're a minority.
'Cause people are targeting you, you know,
as someone that's clearly not white.
You know, people come in and it's like, "Why are you the supervisor?"
You know, "Are you a citizen?"
But, Adrian, isn't that what's really undermining the credibility here?
Is by allowing these falsehoods to metastasize,
that's what's really undercutting election integrity.
And you're in a state where, you know,
the attorney general of Arizona is continuing these weird investigations.
The legislature wants total control over the electoral process.
They're bringing it to the Supreme Court
and basically saying if the Supreme Court okays it,
will of the voters be damned,
they can just send a different set of electors.
Well, I mean, they forget that the stool needs three legs.
There's three branches of government for a reason. And what they're saying is,
"No, just the legislature's the only stool that we can stand on."
And we all know how that's gonna end.
But as far as the-- You know, this is just real.
And I think one of the things that you talk about, this thing metastasizing--
We're spending so much time on the "whatabouterism," right?
Well, this side and that side.
There are no two sides to the truth.
Right. -But at the end of the day,
we're talking about the survival of the republic.
That's not a joke.
That's not unreal.
It is a heavy, heavy burden that folks who are on the ground are carrying.
That's why we've been calling for stricter laws
against folks who will threaten or harass election administrators
at a local level. -You need law enforcement in that.
You need the AGs to stand up and not give credence to these things.
Now we do. -Right.
Well, thank you guys so much for being with us
and having the discussion.
And I can't tell you how much I admire the fact
that you guys are out there doing the real work
to keep this thing humming along.
So, Teresa, Virginia and Adrian,
no one should have to go through the threats and harassments
that these three have, but we appreciate you being here today.
Take a quick look at this.
And now,
a word from the most influential person in the history of America.
Hi, I'm Susan Sarandon.
As you may have heard,
I single-handedly am responsible
for Donald Trump winning the 2016 presidential election,
the fall of Roe v. Wade
and the return of polio.
Probably.
As the midterms approach,
I wanted to inform the millions of Americans who hang on my every word,
who look to me for guidance in all that you do,
I release you.
You no longer have to do what I say.
I acknowledge, at times, I have led this great nation astray.
I told Hillary not to go to Wisconsin.
I release you.
It's true. I said,
"I love Timothée Chalamet, but don't put the boy in every movie."
I release you.
Honestly, it is just too much.
I've got cats, I've got kids, I've got allergies, I've got another job.
Just--
I release you from my power.
So you are now free to make your own decisions.
You do the work. You follow the money.
Just leave me the fuck alone.
Susan! Susan. Susan, thank God. -Jon! Hello.
Almond butter or peanut butter? 'Cause I was gonna make a sandwich.
You can eat whatever you want, Jon.
No. No, you tell me.
It's-- -No, no, no. It's your jars, you choose.
They're both basically the same. Just choose one, Jon.
Alm-- -No, no, no.
I'm not telling you which one to do-- -Can you just tweet it?
I release you.
And I release you.
Don't fuck this up.
What the heck?
So, we were talking about Maricopa County in Arizona,
so we went and spoke to Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich,
who has been on the front lines of investigating this voter fraud.
Protecting state legislatures?
Or... I'm really not sure what he's doing, but enjoy.
Welcome. -Thank you, sir.
We are talking about election integrity... -Yes.
...and you have gone through greats lengths to ensure election integrity in Arizona.
What I have done is--
As the attorney general, I always tell folks
the job of our office is to enforce the law as it is.
And if people don't like the law, then you can change your representatives.
And we, historically in this country, we settle our differences
through exercising our First Amendment rights to speak and our right to vote.
And so it's a very sacred obligation...
Yes. -...and we need to protect.
But at the same time, Jon... -Yes.
...people need to have confidence in the results.
And so, what we have seen... -Yes.
...over the last few election cycles
is every time whoever wins, Democratic or Republican,
there is sour grapes,
and we now are in this cycle where every single election gets nastier and nastier
and whoever loses is claiming fraud more and more and more.
I don't think there's any real comparison
between Trump's efforts to overturn this election
and anything I've ever seen before in the history of the United States.
Certainly in modern times. -Yes, I think we all agree to that.
We all know, and I will tell you this,
I do think-- Look. I understand--
And I'm a Republican, and I know you and I may disagree on issues,
but I do think it's important how we talk about issues that matter.
And I do think people have to have confidence in the process.
And I thought it was important, Jon. -Yeah.
We spent, as an office--
Legislature funds us. They created this election integrity unit.
Yes. -So we had run the stuff to ground.
And we went through it, and there was reports--
All these people-- Allegations of dead people voting,
they said the former president was talking about it.
And we looked into it.
Right now, we have about,
I think almost 20 criminal cases related to the 2020 election.
Out of 4 million votes? -Yeah-- No, I'm talking in facts, Jon.
But the reality is, is there are millions of people, not only in Arizona,
but people throughout this country, that think the election is stolen.
There's people that believe in angels,
but that doesn't mean you launch an investigation that angels changed ballots.
But-- -Like-- Bit of a tautology.
When you have a former president spreading rumors...
Yeah. -...to his supporters.
For instance, Trump can say...
"74,000 mail-in ballots received that were never mailed.
Magically-appearing ballots.
168,000 fraudulent ballots printed on illegal paper.
36,000 ballots illegally cast by non-citizens."
Now, the truth is, none of that was real.
When it first came out, the Cyber Ninjas said Joe Biden won Arizona.
Then they got a lot of pushback and they started hedging and hawing,
and then, next thing you know, people are like,
"Well, Brnovich needs to do something about it."
And then it was, like, a hot mess--
But you've responded by doing things about it.
What I've done is-- -You've said you're still investigating--
We've run a lot of this stuff to ground.
And when you get it to ground,
will you come out and say, "Donald J. Trump is wrong.
The election in Arizona was fair, not stolen and not fraudulent"?
I've always been a straight shooter
and once-- No, once all the facts and evidence are--
Jon! Jon, come on, man.
I'm telling ya, I--
You have found no evidence that the election in Arizona
was fraudulent or stolen from Donald Trump.
Donald Trump lost Arizona, period. I've said that from the very beginning.
There have been isolated incidences thus far that we've identified...
Yes. -...and we are prosecuting.
We still have some active investigations going on, but people can
draw their own conclusions. -But on the main, there is--
No, no, people cannot draw their own conclusions.
There is-- -That's the point of the law.
Yeah, it is. -The law is that you have facts...
Right. Right. -...and you have fiction.
The fact is, the election in Arizona was well-run, not fraudulent,
and not stolen from Donald Trump, according to even your investigations.
I have never said that it was--
Why is it so hard to just say yes to that?
I guess because I've spent my entire-- most of my career as a prosecutor,
and we still have some ongoing cases.
Let me put it this way-- -So, in your mind, you still feel like,
after all this, you're gonna discover... -No.
...a concerted effort to steal the election from Donald Trump,
and that it was fraudulent. Is that what you're saying?
No, that's not what I'm saying. -So, why can't you say
the election in 2020 was not stolen or fraudulent?
I will tell you this. As I said--
This is blowing my mind. -Is it really?
You can't say your conclusion before you go through the entire process.
That's what I said. You and I are disagreeing...
Right. -...because you think that somehow,
that makes me a weenie or that I'm--
I'm entertaining conspiracy theories. -Yeah.
If I thought there was widespread fraud... -Yes.
...would I have certified the election or read part of that certification process?
You seem like you're playing a little bit of a double game.
I don't know if it's a double game. -So, well--
When it's convenient, you go to the partisan side and you say,
for instance, as you did on Steve Bannon's show,
"We all know what happened." -Yeah.
And you intimated that "we all know what happened
and I'm here to tell you, I'm not gonna let it happen again."
So what is it exactly that happened in Maricopa County
that you're not gonna let happen again, that was fraudulent?
What I said in relationship to the Steve Bannon show,
there was a lot of folks complaining about everything going on,
and we pointed out that there was up to 200,000 ballots
that didn't have a proper chain of custody.
And that's why, if you listen to the whole Steve Bannon thing,
he said, "That's evidence of fraud,"
and I said, "No, people can draw their own conclusions."
What you don't want
is someone to be able to say... -But there are--
"These ballots didn't have the chain of custody.
Therefore, it's fraud." -There are checks and balances
within the Maricopa system
that any gaps in chain of custody are also cross-checked
through signatures and verification, and you know that.
It's all bullshit, and you know it's all bullshit.
I think that elections in this country are, in the main, run incredibly well.
I think that's fact.
But the real threat to democracy in this country is,
you have election officials who've been threatened and harassed,
who are quitting in large number, right?
And what the legislature has done
has made giving someone an absentee ballot that didn't ask for it a felony.
I can't tell you, our office received hundreds, thousands of calls and emails.
I've gotten death threats.
In fact, there's someone that just got indicted
for threatening me over the 2020 election.
So, I know what it's like to be threatened.
I know what it's like to have people literally threatening to kill you.
So have election officials and vote recorders and all kinds of people.
Why hasn't there been the same hundreds of thousands of dollars
spent on criminalizing those threats to democracy as felonies,
when all you've done is give credence to the conspiracy theories?
I know there's been some stories about how much time and money
we've spent on these investigations.
Look, I'm not the legislature.
When you have a legislature that says,
"We're gonna fund an election interrogating unit.
You have an obligation to investigate these complaints..."
That's right. -So that's the hand I've been dealt.
Right. So you're saying you just have to do what the legislature's doing,
and if the legislature is screwy, that puts you in a tough position.
Is that what you're saying? -I think we can agree on that.
So it's dangerous to just allow
ideological legislatures to kind of run roughshod. Correct?
There's supposed to be a separation of powers, yes.
So, why did you join
with 12 other attorneys general
on a brief to the Supreme Court,
to allow legislatures to override election laws in states?
I...
Maybe we'll once again disagree with the premise...
Okay. -...I'm a big believer in federalism
and, you know, Article 1, Section 10 of the Constitution...
Okay. -No, the time, place and manner, Jon,
I know you think it's-- -Sure.
I mean, these are ser--
It's just all conveniently lining up. Do you understand my point?
I do. -This all conveniently lines up
when you have a group that's not looking to shore up the security of elections,
but to change the results to their favor, is a bigger threat.
But all I've seen is work in that direction
and no work in the direction of protecting the safety of election workers,
vehemently convincing election deniers
that the evidence so far does not support them--
No one, whether they're an election official,
whether they're a police officer,
no one that's doing their job in a public service should ever feel threatened.
And we should do everything we can--
But you're not. -I am, though.
That's not true, Jon.
They're quitting. -Jon.
Look, we are doing everything we can.
You're not. -Yeah, we are. No, you're wrong.
You're doing everything you can?
Look-- But-- We're speaking frankly. -Yeah.
70% of Republicans in Arizona think the election was stolen and fraudulent.
Right. But you understand... -I feel like I have a--
...that's fucking crazy. -I--
Jon, I feel like that's why I have an-- -Say it's fucking crazy.
I have an obligation-- -Just tell me that.
The point, though, is I feel like when I--
when we continue to run all that stuff to ground...
Yeah. -...and demonstrate that it is--
When it's not true, we come out very forcefully and say this is wrong,
it's not true-- -Let's say this then.
When you're ready to release the report,
when will that be? Do you know?
Sooner rather than later, I'd hope. -Great.
Will you go out and vehemently debunk all those issues?
I-- -As vehemently as needed.
Absolutely.
Thanks. -Thanks for coming on.
Second to you. -Much appreciated.
All right, nice one.
Well, there you have it.
That's fine.
What? What could go wrong?
You know what?
Elections aren't really that important anyway. Who gives a shit?
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