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When my son was murdered,

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the police thought,
"Just another Black boy stabbed."

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You're telling me
that there's nothing you can do,

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and I don't accept that.

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What the hell is Operation Fishpool?
This is all one case.

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I'd like to take on
the Stephen Lawrence murder.

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This is not a whodunnit.
We know who done it,

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and yet no-one has been held to
account for young Stephen's murder.

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His body was covered
in bruises and abrasions

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from being kicked and punched.

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There were two stab wounds.
No, overarm, like you're bowling.

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Well, there's a pattern.

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He's a decent witness,

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delays in following 'em up,
and changes of heart.

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What kind of evidence?

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These were found on Dobson's jacket,
and these on Norris' trousers.

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Microscopically indistinguishable
from Stephen's polo shirt.

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You realise this is the first
physical evidence

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linking any of the suspects
with Stephen?

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Mistakes were made, but this is
my case now, so will you trust me?

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Trust has to be earned.

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He told me not to tell nobody,
but it's all here.

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What?
Same old Met.

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A dream has come true
here today.

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This building will be
a nurturing space,

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but it will also be a space
of high expectation.

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We still have an uphill battle
against the low expectations

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society has for Black children.

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So this will be a space where we see
your gifts and expect excellence.

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And when I see the work you
young people are already achieving,

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your creativity and ambition,
that, to me,

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is the best way we can remember
and celebrate Stephen.

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Thank you for coming.

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Come on!

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I've called the insurance company
already.

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Mr Driscoll.

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I take it you're not here about
the broken glass.

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What happened?
This is not the first time.

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Some people don't like
what we're trying to do. So?

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Er, I wanted to straighten
things out.

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The business with the newspapers.

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I'm confident the leak
didn't come from my team.

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Oh, I got some doughnuts.
Thought maybe...

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I'm glad you're confident,
but I'm not,

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because to me,
this is the same old Met,

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so concerned with publicity
that you'll jeopardise

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the investigation
for a good headline.

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Mrs Lawrence, I was as furious as
you were when I read the headlines,

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the story...

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Do something for me. Read these.

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Out loud.

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"If you don't like this country,
get in your canoe

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"and go back to where
you came from."

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I mean...
No, go on.

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"You ungrateful Black bitch."
Look, this is a hate crime.

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I get this rubbish every time
Stephen's in the paper.

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I made the choice
to fight for my son,

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rather than keeping my mouth shut,
and I pay a price for that,

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but I resent paying
for the Met's publicity stunts.

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I know we haven't done much
to inspire your confidence

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over the years,
but this is my case now.

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We've got a real chance here.
The forensics are promising.

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But if there are people in the Met
working against you,

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you have a problem.

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You need to ask yourself why there
are people in your organisation

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who don't want you to succeed.

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Birdy. Did we, er, get the
statement from the witnesses?

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This is one of the most
sensitive investigations

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on the Met's books, and we can't
even get a door that closes.

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I've been on to estates.

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We wanna nail this case, don't we?

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Right, well, there are people out
there who don't want us to nail it,

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people out there who don't want us
to succeed where they failed,

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people who want to make excuses,
blame the victims.

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Well, I can't do anything
about those people, but I tell you,

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if I find out anyone in this office
has been leaking stuff to the press,

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I will deal with them... thoroughly.

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From now on,
no paperwork left lying around.

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We're all accountable.

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They were all as gutted
as we were, Clive.

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Incoming forensic reports, you
and me only. Keep 'em in the safe.

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Anyone else, as and when required.

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They closed Rolan's school,

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and asked if we wanted the memorial
plaque before they knocked it down.

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How you keep going?

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It's a life sentence, Neville.

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I've accepted that.

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All I can do is try to make
my anger... productive,

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use it to bring about change.

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But it changed me, you know?
That's the problem.

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It's stolen my memories. I...

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I can't see Stephen's smile,
I can't hear his laugh

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without thinking about the killers
and feeling so much hatred.

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I pray so hard
for the strength to forgive.

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Forgiveness? Huh!

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I mean...
have they shown any remorse?

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No. No. That's the problem.

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Then it's not your problem.

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Forgiveness... is not yours to give.

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They have to ask.
They have to atone.

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Without that...

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..dangerous, man.

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How you mean?
Lets the country off the hook, man.

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Lets people think that,
that we can do without justice,

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without accountability.

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When Rolan was killed...

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..the BNP called his murderers
"heroes of the white race".

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I remember that.
Right.

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But when we protested,
it was us they called extremists.

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It was our children that the police
harassed, and not the racists.

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And now, now they want us
to forgive and move on,

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so that they can carry on and
pretend that all is well in England.

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No. Uh-uh.

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When England finally gets angry

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about Black children
being lynched in the streets,

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when the police and the government
say enough is enough,

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maybe then I will let go my anger.

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But until we have real change...

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..I'm not gonna cheapen
my son's life...

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..with forgiveness.

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Uh-uh.

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I've made contact with most of the
coppers from the scene that night,

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mostly retired now, and mostly
none too thrilled to hear from me.

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What about Duwayne Brooks?
He wants nothing to do with us.

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But I was sort of thinking,
do we really need him?

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I mean, this case is gonna
rest on the forensics, yeah?

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Forensics are slippery eels.

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Get a scientist on the stand,
half the jury will glaze over.

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We need them
to hear Duwayne's story,

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along with any other witnesses
we can persuade to come forward.

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Give me the files from the kids
on the estate again.

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They're our best hope at the minute.

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Louise? Clive Driscoll.

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I'm a detective investigating
the murder of Stephen Lawrence.

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I don't wanna talk to you.
You did wanna talk, though.

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You responded to the witness appeal
in 1993. That took real guts.

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No. Sorry.

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Five minutes. Just a chat.

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All right.
But you're not coming in my flat.

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I wasn't from the area.

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I just used to see a boy
off the estate.

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That's how you knew the Acourts?
Yeah.

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Knowing they've killed a boy, having
a secret like that, it was horrible.

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When I did tell the police,
they didn't seem interested,

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so after that...

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Yeah, well, after that,
you didn't trust us.

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Exactly.

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And meantime, I was hearing things
about David's dad.

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Clifford Norris.
Yeah.

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People getting threatened,
and worse.

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I was 15. I was clueless, petrified.

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Look, Louise, this isn't 1993.

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If you do the right thing,
there won't be any repercussions,

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and we can protect you
from the likes of Clifford Norris.

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I'm not being rude, but if you
haven't managed to catch those boys

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after all these years, why should
I believe you can protect me?

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'Financial report about
the Olympics. I mean, just bizarre.

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'I mean, I think Boris is hoping one
day to be leader of the Tory Party

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'and Prime Minister, and his party's
never gonna let him do that,

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'any more than the Labour Party
would let me do it. Too big a risk.

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'So this is the best job
he's ever gonna have in politics,

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'and my advice would be,
"Do it..." '

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For goodness sake!

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Goodness.

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Excuse me, you've just hit my car.
Excuse me.

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Excuse me.

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Hey! No! No, no!

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How much longer
am I going to have to wait?

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Someone will be with you
in due course, madam.

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Can you not check it out?

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Your colleague said 20 minutes
an hour ago.

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Name?

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I don't know, they didn't...
No, your name. What's your name?

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Doreen Lawrence.

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I'm afraid at the moment
all of our officers

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are currently busy
on high-priority calls.

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This was a car-jacking.
Surely that's high priority?

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If you wouldn't mind waiting,

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I'm sure someone will be with you
in due course.

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On him, now, there!
You do it every time!

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Hello?

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Wh...

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I've got to go.

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I'm sorry.

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I wanna speak to the officer
in charge of Mrs Lawrence's case.

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Sorry, who are you?  DCI Driscoll,
Specialist Crime Directorate.

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Oh, sorry, guv.

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Quick as you like, son.
Yeah, of course.

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Are you hurt? I can take you to A&E.
Oh, no, I'm fine.

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They didn't touch me.
But I left everything in the car,

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my wallet, I'll have
to cancel all my cards...

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We'll sort it all out. Don't worry.

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Right, the duty inspector
will be here in a moment.

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Can I get you a cup of tea
in the meantime?  I'm fine.

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Yes, please, Sergeant.

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Two teas, and, er, some biccies if
you can rustle 'em up. Sugar, Mrs L?

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I'll just take milk, thank you.

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As a peace offering
it was appreciated,

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but as a cup of tea...

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Shocking. He'll never make inspector
like that.

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Did he put the milk in the mug
with the teabag still in it?  Ugh.

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I'll make us a proper cuppa.

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Here, I'll do that.
You've had a shock.

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I'm not a damsel in distress,
Mr Driscoll.

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Mr Driscoll is what my teachers
called me at school

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before they gave me
six of the best.

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Clive will do, I think.

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OK. Thank you, Clive,
but I'll manage.

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We've had to turn this house
into a fortress.

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There's a cost to speaking out.
Yeah, I can see that.

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I have to say, though, you ain't
half good at it, speaking out.

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I reckon there must be a lot of
powerful people who have nightmares

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about getting the hairdryer
treatment from Doreen Lawrence.

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I didn't plan for it.

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I thought the killers
would just be arrested.

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Never expected getting justice
to be my job.

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No, well, it shouldn't have been.

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But here we are, 15 years later.
Mm.

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Do you have children?
Yeah, five. Four boys and one girl.

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The eldest is in Afghanistan,
as it happens, yeah. Marine.

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Mm, you must worry about him.
Sick to my stomach.

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It's funny, when I was away
at Hendon for basic training,

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he'd, er, he'd come up
and he'd cling onto my leg,

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"Don't go, Daddy."

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And now the shoe's
on the other foot.

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I have to stop myself clinging
onto him every time he ships out.

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You know, erm, I, er...
HE CLEARS HIS THROAT

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I can't even begin to imagine
the strength

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it must take to keep fighting
all these years.

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Yeah, sometimes, I really do
feel like giving up.

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But then I sleep,
and I dream of him, and, you know,

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he's so sad and angry
at not being alive.

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It's horrible. So I keep going.

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It's not about feeling strong.
I don't feel strong.

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I just don't have a choice.

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'From London's newsroom
at seven o'clock.

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'Helping you breathe more easily,
London gets a new low-emission zone.

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'How immigrants should be taught
how to queue in shops,

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'and why Cameron's losing ground
in the power stakes.

240
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'Good morning, I'm...'

241
00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,760
Birdy, I need you
to get one of your DCs

242
00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,480
to track down Clifford Norris.

243
00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,880
Old man Norris? Why?

244
00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,520
A witness, Birdy, what else?

245
00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,760
These were found
on Norris' trousers. Two hairs.

246
00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,880
The mitochondrial DNA is a
thousand-to-one match with Stephen.

247
00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,160
His hair?
That's a significant find, surely.

248
00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,760
Well, a thousand-to-one
isn't as strong as the fibres,

249
00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,160
but it's corroborative.

250
00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,640
It adds detail to the picture.
Good.

251
00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,880
Let's hope there's more
where that came from.

252
00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,200
It is good, but we need to prove
how it got there.

253
00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,560
We've had a couple of breakthroughs
on the case.

254
00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:37,400
But we're looking at a 15-year game
of pass-the-parcel

255
00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:38,800
when it comes to exhibits.

256
00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,360
We've had internal reviews, external
reviews, private prosecution.

257
00:17:42,360 --> 00:17:44,840
The defence are gonna be
looking for any opportunity

258
00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,160
to cry contamination.

259
00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,800
I need to know every time
anyone touched, moved,

260
00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,840
opened, or even glanced
at an exhibit.

261
00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,800
So, hang on, you're talking about
forensic evidence.

262
00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,800
New and compelling
forensic evidence.

263
00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,160
But for it to be worth anything,
we need to prove

264
00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,320
there was absolutely no opportunity
for Stephen's clothing

265
00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,600
to have contact with the suspects'
clothing after the fact.

266
00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,960
I need someone I can rely on
to do that, and that's you.

267
00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,600
All right.

268
00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,200
But I was working at Woolwich
when Stephen was killed.

269
00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,360
I remember the atmosphere.
Let's be honest, Del, back in '93,

270
00:18:20,360 --> 00:18:23,360
the Acourt gang would have fitted in
better with the Metropolitan Police

271
00:18:23,360 --> 00:18:24,920
than young Stephen.

272
00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:29,040
I guess what I'm asking is,
is this real?

273
00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,720
Does the brass actually
want us to solve this murder?

274
00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,920
We're not doing this
to please the Metropolitan Police.

275
00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:36,680
The Lawrence family have lost a son.

276
00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,000
We're murder police,
we work for them.

277
00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,080
Makes a change to have the police
call a meeting,

278
00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:55,600
instead of us demanding one.

279
00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,120
Jocelyn. Are we the first here?
I think so.

280
00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,000
Jocelyn Cockburn?
Yes.

281
00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,160
And Neville Lawrence?
Yes, that's correct.

282
00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:12,400
Thank you.

283
00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:20,640
Neville.

284
00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,400
Doreen. Imran.

285
00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:31,000
The forensic review is on-going, and
we've made another significant find.

286
00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,000
Human hair strands
have been identified

287
00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,640
on two of the suspects' clothing.

288
00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,400
Stephen's hair?

289
00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,040
We think so.
It's a thousand-to-one DNA match.

290
00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,480
Is that enough?  Are we talking
about bringing charges?

291
00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,920
Not yet. We wanna build
the strongest case possible,

292
00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,200
and to achieve that,

293
00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,480
we need solid witnesses
as well as forensic evidence.

294
00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,600
Previous investigations have treated
some crucial people badly.

295
00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,360
Duwayne Brooks being an example.

296
00:19:59,360 --> 00:20:01,720
They treated that boy
like a prime suspect.

297
00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,920
Yes. We let him down.

298
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,720
But when it comes to trial,
we'll need him.

299
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,280
So you think there will be a trial?

300
00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,360
We're increasingly confident,
but as it's a double jeopardy case,

301
00:20:11,360 --> 00:20:14,480
the CPS will want to consult
the family on re-prosecution.

302
00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,560
As in, do we want a prosecution?

303
00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,600
I know it sounds like a daft
question.  There's no question.

304
00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,480
There's never been any question
about our commitment.

305
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,240
The question is whether
the Metropolitan Police

306
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,960
are actually going to support
the prosecution this time around.

307
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,160
We've been here twice before,
you know.

308
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,480
We don't want to go through that
disappointment again.

309
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,760
I know. You have my word.

310
00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,880
It's not your word
I'm worried about.

311
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,680
I mean, let's not
beat around the bush.

312
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,840
I'm still worried about corruption.

313
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,920
Look, when it comes
to previous investigations,

314
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,600
I'd like answers
to a lot of questions.

315
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,240
Will I get those answers?
Probably not.

316
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:59,040
All I can say is I'm the SIO now...

317
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,000
and I have no intention
of letting anyone interfere

318
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,840
with my investigation.

319
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,240
'DC Derek Reid calling.

320
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,120
'We're trying to establish
the chain of custody

321
00:21:08,120 --> 00:21:10,040
'for exhibits
in the Stephen Lawrence case,

322
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,360
'and I have some questions
regarding his clothing.'

323
00:21:13,360 --> 00:21:14,760
On the night of the murder,

324
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,960
you brought Stephen's clothing back
to the station unsealed, to Eltham?

325
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,280
Er, no, not to Eltham.

326
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:23,160
I mean, it was drenched with blood,
so I took 'em to Southwark.

327
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,360
They had a drying room there.
They were sealed once they were dry.

328
00:21:26,360 --> 00:21:29,400
So, during that process,
there's a lot of wet blood,

329
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,080
the bags aren't sealed.

330
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,840
Could you have transferred blood
to the outside of the evidence bag?

331
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,400
I mean, I wore gloves,
but it's possible.

332
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:43,800
You seized Dobson's jacket
on 7th of May.

333
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,040
Was it bagged at the scene?
Yes.

334
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:48,160
Right.

335
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:53,040
Erm... only, in your notebook,

336
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,640
you made an entry
about sealing exhibits

337
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,760
back at Plumstead nick
later that day.

338
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,920
Well, I mean,
I would have followed best practice.

339
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,280
We're just trying to fill any gaps.
If you can help us, great.

340
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,280
If you can't remember,
understandable.

341
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,200
We're on the same side here.

342
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,200
So when Stephen's clothes
arrived from Southwark,

343
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,200
did they go into a secure
evidence store?

344
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,560
Er, no, it wasn't an evidence store,
really. It was just an unused cell.

345
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,440
What, so there was some
kind of shelving, partitioning?

346
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,520
Unfortunately not, no.

347
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,000
As I remember it, Stephen's clothing
was stored on the bed.

348
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,240
The bed?

349
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,080
Well, yes. I mean, like I said,
it was a cell.

350
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,600
Shaun.
'Clive.'

351
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,880
'Birdy's found a witness.'

352
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,040
Follow-up from a canvas
a few years back.

353
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,560
I think you might want
some face time with this one.

354
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,560
I'll see you back there.
OK. Keep him comfortable.

355
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,080
I'll be there in about half an hour.

356
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,520
I'd had a drink in Woolwich,
and then I was walking home

357
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,120
to where I was lodging, and I was
almost at the Well Hall roundabout,

358
00:23:15,120 --> 00:23:18,720
and that's where I saw,
you know, the... the bother.

359
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,280
What did you see, exactly?

360
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,720
I saw David Norris, Gary Dobson
and the two Acourts

361
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,520
laying into the Black kid,
Lawrence.

362
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,160
How many drinks had you had?

363
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:36,480
I don't know, six, seven pints,
few chasers.

364
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,280
So you were drunk.
I was pissed. I weren't blind.

365
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:45,240
You weren't local,
so how did you know who they were?

366
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:49,040
A bloke I worked with pointed
them out to me a few weeks before,

367
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,040
told me to watch out for 'em,
said they were aggy,

368
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,720
carried knives and that, you know.

369
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,840
Can you give us his details, the
bloke that pointed them out to you?

370
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,320
I can do.
I don't know if he'll talk to you.

371
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,360
I ain't spoke to him in ten years.

372
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,120
Why didn't you come forward
at the time?

373
00:24:06,120 --> 00:24:08,120
Well, no-one asked me, did they?
So...

374
00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:11,360
Well, we were on the radio,
on Crimewatch, in the papers.

375
00:24:11,360 --> 00:24:13,440
We were begging for witnesses.

376
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,800
Well, if you want the truth,
I'm a racist,

377
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,920
so I won't lose any sleep over him.

378
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,880
So why talk now?

379
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,040
They came and asked me,
I told them what I knew.

380
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,720
I ain't afraid of the Acourts.

381
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,280
He was drunk.

382
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:36,840
On the other hand, he's a fully
paid-up racist, which is helpful.

383
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,920
No reason to lie.
If we can find the other workmate,

384
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,920
get him to confirm he pointed out
the gang, firm up the ID,

385
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,280
we might finally have
a useable witness.

386
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,680
My anxiety is that
some of this forensic evidence,

387
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,880
though compelling,
is not exactly new.

388
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,800
What do you mean?

389
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,800
Advice we've had from legal counsel
is that it isn't good enough

390
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,680
to call evidence new
because we've just found it,

391
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,480
if we really should have
found it before.

392
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,960
Even though your tests
have found traces of Stephen

393
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,480
on the suspects' clothing,
it was more difficult,

394
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,520
but not impossible, to conduct
this kind of analysis in '93.

395
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,400
The Met can't afford another
Stephen Lawrence trial to collapse.

396
00:25:22,120 --> 00:25:24,200
What are you saying?
What I've always said.

397
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:25,640
That I doubt this review

398
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,680
will produce anything
strong enough for a retrial.

399
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,240
You don't even have a decent
witness.  We're working on that.

400
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,200
It isn't enough.

401
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,960
I am sorry, Clive, but we need
more than this for the CPS.

402
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,040
All right, then.

403
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,160
We'll just have to find more,
won't we?

404
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,280
I've got some more bad news,
I'm afraid.

405
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,520
Tracked down our racist's workmate.
Don't tell me.

406
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,240
Denies all knowledge.

407
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,520
Says he didn't know the suspects.

408
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,280
Everyone in Eltham knew
the Acourt gang.  Exactly.

409
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,000
But he's not playing ball.

410
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:13,320
Hello. Hello. Ooh.
Does your nose do that?

411
00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:18,080
Heh-heh.

412
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,000
As you can see, Clifford Norris
is no threat to you,

413
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,760
or anyone else, for that matter.

414
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:31,000
He's living in a bedsit,
pickling his liver on the dole.

415
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,400
He won't be buying many coppers
with his giro, I promise you that.

416
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,440
I'm sorry.

417
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,200
I thought it over, but I've
got her to think about, you know?

418
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,120
Louise, he's not a player any more.
He can't hurt you,

419
00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:54,280
but you could make a difference
to the Lawrence family.

420
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,800
You could give them justice.
But why me?

421
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,240
Everyone knows who done it.

422
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,680
I wanna help, but I can't.
I'm sorry.

423
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,200
I was so sure
she was gonna do the right thing.

424
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,800
I must be losing my touch.

425
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:23,560
It's the Eltham Omerta, isn't it?
Here, got this in today.

426
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,080
Serious Organised Crime Agency.

427
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,240
Jamie Acourt's
apparently a regular guest

428
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,360
in a drug wiretap they're running.

429
00:27:30,360 --> 00:27:32,600
They're classing him
as a high flight risk.

430
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,720
Bags packed, ready to go,
they reckon.  Christ.

431
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,920
Can we request surveillance?

432
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,800
They won't even
pay for a bolt for the door.

433
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,000
If they're as connected
as SOCA reckons,

434
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,920
it isn't just the flight risk.
They could intimidate witnesses.

435
00:27:47,120 --> 00:27:49,480
We limit case conferences.

436
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,600
Think about who actually needs
to be there.

437
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,120
We can't afford another leak.

438
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,040
'I look around here today

439
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:32,520
'and see the Prime Minister,
the Home Secretary,

440
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,200
'the Archbishop of Canterbury.

441
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,640
'It's an honour to see you all here,
of course it is,

442
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,400
'but I wish you weren't here.'

443
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:47,240
I wish we didn't need to be here.
But we do.

444
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,920
We have to keep
Stephen's memory alive

445
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,640
because we still don't have justice.

446
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,040
For me, for my family,

447
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:03,480
the pain of our loss remains
undiminished after 15 years.

448
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:09,000
The campaign for justice
for Stephen continues,

449
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:14,360
as must the wider fight
to combat racism, discrimination,

450
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,560
and prejudice.

451
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,320
Stephen was my benchmark.

452
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,280
I was always trying to reach
his level and, annoying as it was,

453
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,600
I was never quite as good.

454
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:40,200
He's made me aspire to be
the best person I can be,

455
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,680
and I can't thank him
enough for that.

456
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,440
I loved my big brother.

457
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:50,560
He was killed by hate, but I believe
that love is stronger than hate,

458
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:55,040
that, in the end,
love will conquer hate.

459
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,880
PHONE RINGS
DS Birdsall speaking.

460
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,280
OK. Yeah, I'll get him to call you.

461
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,680
Excuse me, I'll just get
rid of this, if you don't mind.

462
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,880
Can't speak right now.
You need to call forensics, ASAP.

463
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,760
It's Clive Driscoll.
We've found Stephen's blood.

464
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,120
What?

465
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,600
You found it where?

466
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,200
We've found Stephen's blood
on Gary Dobson's jacket.

467
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,280
Dear God.

468
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,880
Hello, Clive.
Oh, Mrs L.

469
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,680
You look very smart.
Well, I do try.

470
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,760
I, er, I have to say,
it's an honour.

471
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,160
That was a beautiful service.

472
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,160
And the case?
How's everything going?

473
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,680
Well, I mean, it's going well.
Good.

474
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,200
There. You see that?

475
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,000
That discolouration there
is the blood of Stephen Lawrence.

476
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,920
It's on the back of the collar,
which fits.

477
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,880
When you stab someone,
as you pull the knife back,

478
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,160
there's a little judder as you
reach the end of the trajectory,

479
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,640
so any droplets of wet blood
often hit the back of the clothing.

480
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,400
And the key thing here
is that that isn't a flake.

481
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,120
It's saturated,
stained into the fabric,

482
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,760
which means the blood was still wet
when it landed there

483
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:53,440
during the attack.
So this is A1, Rolls-Royce evidence?

484
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,800
Indeed. With a cherry on top.

485
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,040
Is it too good?
How can evidence be too good?

486
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,840
As in, is it so good it should have
been found a long time ago?

487
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,680
Amplified fragment length
polymorphism forms of analysis

488
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,920
weren't available
during earlier investigations.

489
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,800
We couldn't have confidently
confirmed this was Stephen's blood.

490
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,120
Right, well, the only thing
I understood there was

491
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,400
"We couldn't have done this before",
and that's all I need.

492
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,360
This is new and compelling evidence.

493
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,720
This is getting serious now,
isn't it?

494
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,880
If we rely on forensics,
we'd better be confident...

495
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,920
..about the chain of custody.

496
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,960
Hello?
'DCI Driscoll?'  Who's this?

497
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,200
'We're running a piece
on the developments

498
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,280
'of the Stephen Lawrence case.
Wondered if you wanted to comment.

499
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,760
'On or off, your call.'

500
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,280
I need to know your source.
Course you do.

501
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,360
So, is it gonna be enough, then,
this new DNA evidence?

502
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,880
You cannot run this story.
We're dealing with flight risks.

503
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,400
You're serious?

504
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,120
Look, we got off
on the wrong foot here.

505
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,920
You give me an angle
that works for you.

506
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:08,680
All right, I've tried to appeal
to your sense of civic duty.

507
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,960
How about this?

508
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,040
If you run this story, I'll hold
a lovely big press conference,

509
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:19,200
with refreshments and everything,
and I will name you personally

510
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,560
as having sabotaged the Stephen
Lawrence murder investigation.

511
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,160
Afternoon.

512
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,200
Sorry to keep you waiting.
Mark Ellison QC.

513
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,120
Is everyone here?
Do we have our forensic people?

514
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,320
Er, yeah, that'll be Ed and Angela.

515
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,280
A lot seems to rest on the fact
that this blood stain

516
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:49,920
was soaked into the fabric.

517
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,200
Well, yes.

518
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,360
The nature of the staining would
suggest the blood was uncoagulated,

519
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:55,560
fresh, when it got there.

520
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,920
These tests that you do
to the clothing,

521
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,280
do any of them involve moisture?

522
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,440
Well, we did use the Phadebas
Amylase test to detect saliva.

523
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,400
That does involve
a dampened paper press test.

524
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:07,760
So if I was the defence,

525
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,040
I would be saying the blood stain
was the result of contamination,

526
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,960
and only soaked into the weave
of the fabric when it was dampened.

527
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,000
I think that's a highly
improbable hypothesis.

528
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,760
If you say that on the stand,
we've lost.

529
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,160
An improbable hypothesis
is reasonable doubt.

530
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,520
If I may,
with forensic evidence such as this,

531
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,480
we're dealing with degrees
of probability.

532
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,120
No, not good enough.
I need you to go away

533
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,720
and prove the absolute impossibility
of this blood stain

534
00:34:31,720 --> 00:34:33,680
coming from any sequence of events,

535
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,320
other than the jacket
being at the fatal attack.

536
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,120
Right.

537
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,080
Well, we'll, er,
go back and review.  Good.

538
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,520
Del? I thought that was you.
Ha-ha! You all right, Jenny?

539
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,360
It's been years.
Yeah.

540
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,280
You still with Trident?
Er, no. No, I'm... I'm actually on

541
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,520
the Stephen Lawrence case,
as it happens.

542
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,640
You? No way. Part of Doreen
Lawrence's private police force.

543
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,520
What's that supposed to mean?

544
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,200
Come on, you must be
pulling your hair out on that job.

545
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,640
I mean, it's not like anyone
wants to face the actual truth

546
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,480
about Saint Stephen.

547
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,360
Which is what?

548
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,400
Well, it was a gang thing,
wasn't it?

549
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,880
Stabbed with his own knife
after he tried to rip off a dealer.

550
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,480
Everyone knows.

551
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,320
I tell you what, then, Jenny.

552
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,040
You send everyone across to us.
We'll happily take their statements.

553
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,440
DC Derek Reid calling again.

554
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,560
I had a question
about the tape seals.

555
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,760
You said they were checked
every time, right?

556
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:35,680
So how was that recorded?

557
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:40,600
In 1998, you resealed
a couple of our exhibits. Yeah.

558
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,440
Can you explain
the deterioration on the packaging?

559
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,600
Just to clarify, you're saying that
when the suspects' clothing

560
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,000
arrived in Eltham,

561
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,560
Stephen's clothing had already
been sent off for analysis?

562
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,440
What date was that?

563
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,520
We've tracked every single exhibit
since 1993.

564
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,600
We know where every item was
at one time.

565
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,760
For example, LH/5, Dobson's jacket,

566
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:09,160
that was also handed over to
Kent Police on 23rd of June 1997.

567
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,360
It remained sealed and in a cupboard
with the other clothing exhibits.

568
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,960
Tricky, Tricky, this is all
very comprehensive, very impressive,

569
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,520
but for now, what's the headline?

570
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,720
What are we looking at
in terms of opportunities

571
00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:22,160
for cross-contamination?
The headline is this.

572
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,320
The thing the first investigation
took the biggest kicking for,

573
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,000
that two-week delay
between the murder and the arrests?

574
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,160
Now it's our saving grace.
You've lost me.

575
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,800
None of the suspects' clothing was
seized and brought to the station

576
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,760
until 7th of May.

577
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,800
Stephen's exhibits were sent
for forensic examination

578
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,360
a week before that.

579
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,040
Stephen's and the suspects' exhibits
were never at the same station

580
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,560
at the same time.

581
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,560
So opportunities
for cross-contamination

582
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,800
back in '93 were...
Vanishingly small.

583
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,920
Clive, Duwayne is in the paper
with the man running for mayor.

584
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,160
Boris?

585
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,080
'No, no, no, the other one.
The Liberal.'

586
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,560
Ex-police officer.
Duwayne campaigning for him.

587
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,960
Yeah, Brian Paddick.
I remember him from my Brixton days.

588
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,080
Well, there you go, then.

589
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,280
Maybe he can put in
a good word for you.

590
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,560
I really, really appreciate you
making time, Mr Brooks.

591
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,080
Brian said you were
one of the good guys.

592
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,680
That's the only reason why I'm here.

593
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,480
Thing is, we're making headway
with Stephen's case.  Really?

594
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,520
15 years of headway,
and what do we have to show for it?

595
00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:43,960
I'm sorry. We let you down.
No, sorry, you didn't let me down.

596
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,000
You tried to stitch me up. OK?

597
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,000
You arrested me for protesting
the murder of my friend

598
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,840
whilst his killers walked free.

599
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,000
I am sorry, Duwayne.

600
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,640
You were treated appallingly.

601
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:02,040
The thing is, I need your evidence
to lock up the bastards

602
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,840
that killed your friend.
I already gave my evidence.

603
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,760
I was a scared kid.

604
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,040
I knew that the Acourts
could come after me...

605
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,600
..but I still identified
Neil Acourt and Luke Knight.

606
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,440
You were brave.
You stood up for your friend.

607
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,160
But it didn't matter, though,
did it? Because no-one believed me.

608
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,840
I did everything
the police asked of me,

609
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,800
and they still acted like
I was hiding something.

610
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,560
It was unfathomable to them
that a Black man

611
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,160
could just be an innocent victim.

612
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,560
Look, I won't ask you to trust
the police. Why should you?

613
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,200
But I am gonna charge these men.
And when I do,

614
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,080
it will rest on forensics,
cold, hard science.

615
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,720
There'll be a lot less wriggle room

616
00:38:51,720 --> 00:38:54,400
for anyone who doesn't want to see
justice for Stephen.

617
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,400
So why do you need me?

618
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,680
Because forensics alone
won't be enough.

619
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,360
You were there.
You can bring it to life for them.

620
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,760
So, we made 12 attempts
to reconstitute blood fragments

621
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,400
using Phadebas substrate.

622
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,400
Sorry, can you imagine
that you're trying to explain this

623
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,520
to a five-year-old?
Sorry.

624
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,880
We took tiny samples
of Stephen's dried blood

625
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,760
and applied different liquids,
but the samples became jelly-like.

626
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,600
The blood wouldn't have been able

627
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,440
to soak into the weave of the
fabric, even if it was rehydrated.

628
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,760
So?  My conclusion is
Stephen's blood was fresh

629
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,480
when it soaked into the jacket.

630
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,920
Which means that Dobson's jacket
must have been present

631
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:03,640
at the murder scene.  Yes.
Well, that's music to my ears.

632
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,080
Let's hope that this is enough to
get us over the line with the CPS.

633
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,920
Ah, Clive.

634
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,880
Detective Superintendent Jill Bailey
will be joining us for the meeting.

635
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,800
All right?

636
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,120
Given the level of scrutiny
the Met can expect going forward,

637
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,200
I thought your team would benefit
from Jill's support

638
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,720
as reviewing superintendent.

639
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,480
I've never had
a reviewing superintendent before.

640
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,800
Never heard of one, actually.

641
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,960
Yes, well, this is a unique case.

642
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,600
What will you be reviewing, ma'am?
Me?

643
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,720
I hope I can provide some guidance
when it comes to

644
00:40:58,720 --> 00:41:02,240
the more politically delicate
aspects of the case.

645
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,400
Over the past two years,

646
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,160
we have followed a series
of significant evidential leads

647
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:31,600
in the investigation
into Stephen's murder.

648
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,640
The Director of Public Prosecutions
has now reviewed this evidence

649
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,720
and provided us with an update.

650
00:41:37,720 --> 00:41:42,120
Mr and Mrs Lawrence, Stuart,
I won't beat about the bush.

651
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,080
The fact is, we have found
Stephen's blood

652
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,200
on the jacket
of one of the suspects.

653
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:48,800
We've also found hair,

654
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:53,840
clothing fibres belonging to Stephen
on the clothing of several suspects.

655
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:58,720
As a result of this, the DPP
has agreed that we can charge

656
00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:02,480
Gary Dobson and David Norris
for Stephen's murder.

657
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,560
Hope to execute the arrests
within the week.

658
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,040
I'm sorry.

659
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,760
I know this has been a long road
for your family.

660
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,120
I know this is good news, but...

661
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,360
Yes...

662
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,800
..we have waited a long time
for this.

663
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,760
But that's two. There were five.

664
00:42:42,720 --> 00:42:45,840
The forensic evidence
against Dobson and Norris

665
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,760
is stronger than what we have
against the other suspects.

666
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,360
The DPP doesn't want to endanger
the stronger cases

667
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,400
in a joint prosecution.
So they get away with it again.

668
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,760
No, no. We take down
Dobson and Norris first,

669
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,840
but this is an on-going
investigation.

670
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,880
I haven't forgotten
about the others.

671
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,600
If there's a disparity
in the evidence,

672
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,400
then separate prosecutions
is sensible.

673
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,880
OK. If that's the best way forward,
then I'm OK with that.

674
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,200
You know, when we first met,

675
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,840
you promised me
you'd do your best for Stephen.

676
00:43:25,720 --> 00:43:28,760
Thank you for keeping that promise.

677
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,680
Well, thank you, both.

678
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:32,800
Er...

679
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,160
I don't take the trust
you've placed in us lightly.

680
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,720
You understand that
following these arrests,

681
00:43:39,720 --> 00:43:44,000
there's likely to be renewed
attention on your family.

682
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,000
We can deal with that.

683
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,840
We're ready.

684
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,480
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