1 00:00:07,395 --> 00:00:11,226 - My name is Rarriwuy Hick, and I'm playing Toni Alma. 2 00:00:11,226 --> 00:00:15,610 Toni Alma is an indigenous woman, an Arrernte woman 3 00:00:15,610 --> 00:00:18,682 from a fictional remote aboriginal community 4 00:00:18,682 --> 00:00:20,373 called Perdar Theendar. 5 00:00:20,373 --> 00:00:22,513 We meet Toni Alma 6 00:00:22,513 --> 00:00:27,070 as she returns back to her community as a detective. 7 00:00:27,070 --> 00:00:30,694 You really get to see how challenging it can be 8 00:00:30,694 --> 00:00:33,904 being an indigenous woman and a detective 9 00:00:33,904 --> 00:00:36,251 in an aboriginal community, 10 00:00:36,251 --> 00:00:39,082 and trying to live between those two worlds. 11 00:00:43,638 --> 00:00:48,125 I had the amazing Marie Ellis, who's from Amoonguna, 12 00:00:48,125 --> 00:00:50,748 teach me central Arrernte. 13 00:00:52,716 --> 00:00:56,029 [speaking in Arrernte] 14 00:00:56,029 --> 00:00:58,170 [Toni speaking in Arrernte] 15 00:00:58,170 --> 00:01:01,621 [speaking in Arrernte] 16 00:01:01,621 --> 00:01:02,415 - Yeah. 17 00:01:03,485 --> 00:01:06,730 [speaking in Arrernte] 18 00:01:10,216 --> 00:01:11,873 - This is police business now. 19 00:01:12,874 --> 00:01:13,944 I love language. 20 00:01:13,944 --> 00:01:16,326 I think language is so important. 21 00:01:16,326 --> 00:01:21,331 To me, it's more than just a form of communication. 22 00:01:21,951 --> 00:01:23,091 It's a way to 23 00:01:24,748 --> 00:01:25,576 speak 24 00:01:26,750 --> 00:01:29,546 to your spirit, or it's also like, 25 00:01:29,546 --> 00:01:32,445 it says who you are and where you come from, you know. 26 00:01:32,445 --> 00:01:34,482 That's a big part of your identity, 27 00:01:34,482 --> 00:01:36,173 whatever language it is, you know. 28 00:01:40,419 --> 00:01:43,836 I think we have a lot of stories that 29 00:01:43,836 --> 00:01:48,012 hidden stories here in Australia that still need to be told, 30 00:01:48,012 --> 00:01:48,806 you know, and 31 00:01:51,808 --> 00:01:55,503 really being brave with how we tell our stories, 32 00:01:55,503 --> 00:01:58,575 I think is important to do that. 33 00:02:00,991 --> 00:02:04,270 You know, the more we can learn from one another 34 00:02:04,270 --> 00:02:08,895 and sit together, and listen and acknowledge 35 00:02:08,895 --> 00:02:11,795 the beautiful and rich culture that we do have here. 36 00:02:12,934 --> 00:02:15,143 One of the oldest cultures in the world. 37 00:02:17,283 --> 00:02:19,596 Once we are able to do that, I think 38 00:02:21,184 --> 00:02:24,808 things will really move and change for all of us. 39 00:02:24,808 --> 00:02:27,362 And at that point we, 40 00:02:28,743 --> 00:02:31,470 we being Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people 41 00:02:32,954 --> 00:02:35,508 and people of this country, will be accepted and things. 42 00:02:35,508 --> 00:02:39,235 And what better way to do it than through art, you know, 43 00:02:39,235 --> 00:02:42,101 through storytelling. This is something that we're, 44 00:02:42,101 --> 00:02:43,723 we're so good at. 45 00:02:43,723 --> 00:02:45,035 Wow. 46 00:02:46,761 --> 00:02:48,590 This is beautiful. 47 00:02:48,590 --> 00:02:51,214 [Speaking Arrernte] 48 00:02:51,214 --> 00:02:52,594 - Paris? 49 00:02:52,594 --> 00:02:55,563 [Speaking Arrernte] 50 00:03:01,051 --> 00:03:02,984 [Everyone laughs] 51 00:03:02,984 --> 00:03:04,606 You really gotta follow Eileen. 52 00:03:13,995 --> 00:03:15,859 Erica Glynn, 53 00:03:15,859 --> 00:03:17,826 this is the first time working with her, 54 00:03:17,826 --> 00:03:18,758 and that's been 55 00:03:19,759 --> 00:03:20,691 amazing. 56 00:03:20,691 --> 00:03:23,694 She is such a powerhouse, 57 00:03:23,694 --> 00:03:27,595 and someone I really look up to because she, 58 00:03:28,872 --> 00:03:30,667 yeah, she's just, 59 00:03:30,667 --> 00:03:34,429 not only has this whole legacy that she carries, you know, 60 00:03:34,429 --> 00:03:37,846 but she's just such an incredible person 61 00:03:37,846 --> 00:03:40,642 and this is her country down here, 62 00:03:40,642 --> 00:03:41,540 so she's also 63 00:03:42,574 --> 00:03:43,783 going, 64 00:03:43,783 --> 00:03:46,338 you know, this is my home. 65 00:03:46,338 --> 00:03:47,199 You know, 66 00:03:48,995 --> 00:03:51,412 run with it, you know, and trust it. 67 00:03:51,412 --> 00:03:54,759 There's just been a lot of trust, you know, from everyone. 68 00:03:54,759 --> 00:03:57,452 And then Uncle Warren H. Williams, 69 00:03:58,660 --> 00:04:01,560 he's such a humble, very humble man, you know, 70 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,009 He doesn't ever, 71 00:04:04,597 --> 00:04:05,702 you know, you just, 72 00:04:07,048 --> 00:04:08,049 And he too, 73 00:04:08,049 --> 00:04:09,326 like, 74 00:04:09,326 --> 00:04:10,776 this is his baby. 75 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:13,986 And I say this, every time I say this, 76 00:04:13,986 --> 00:04:17,058 I get really emotional when I tell him this, but 77 00:04:18,887 --> 00:04:20,336 you know when, 78 00:04:20,336 --> 00:04:22,443 yeah, when someone trusts you with their story, 79 00:04:22,443 --> 00:04:23,582 and you know. 80 00:04:24,755 --> 00:04:26,757 I'm not countryman from here. 81 00:04:26,757 --> 00:04:29,415 I'm long way from my home, 82 00:04:30,899 --> 00:04:33,902 but I feel like I've been embraced by everyone here. 83 00:04:33,902 --> 00:04:34,869 And. 84 00:04:36,319 --> 00:04:39,908 And yeah, just that trust has been really amazing. 85 00:04:39,908 --> 00:04:42,911 So I've worked with Steven McGregor quite a few times 86 00:04:45,397 --> 00:04:46,639 and it's 87 00:04:46,639 --> 00:04:48,503 so, it's really nice to come back. 88 00:04:48,503 --> 00:04:50,056 It's been a while since I've worked with him, 89 00:04:50,056 --> 00:04:53,128 so it's nice to come back and work with him again. 90 00:04:53,128 --> 00:04:56,062 And also Murray Louie who's our DOP, you know. 91 00:05:06,556 --> 00:05:08,903 Feeling like you're a part of a family 92 00:05:08,903 --> 00:05:11,181 and that's not just mob from here, 93 00:05:11,181 --> 00:05:15,358 but that's also the cast all cast and crew, you know. 94 00:05:18,913 --> 00:05:22,468 We knew that this was something special, you know. 95 00:05:22,468 --> 00:05:24,505 I remember when we were in rehearsals and pre 96 00:05:24,505 --> 00:05:25,506 and I was like, 97 00:05:26,472 --> 00:05:27,542 Ooh, I have goosebumps. 98 00:05:27,542 --> 00:05:29,648 I can feel 99 00:05:29,648 --> 00:05:31,822 there's something about this show 100 00:05:31,822 --> 00:05:33,824 that's gonna be groundbreaking. 101 00:05:33,824 --> 00:05:36,965 And it's different and it's special. 102 00:05:37,794 --> 00:05:40,555 [bugs and birds] 103 00:05:42,557 --> 00:05:45,560 [speaking Arrernte] 104 00:06:07,789 --> 00:06:10,723 I've been, 105 00:06:10,723 --> 00:06:13,968 performing, acting for 12, 13 years now, 106 00:06:13,968 --> 00:06:18,766 and a lot of my roles, I've been the victim of something, 107 00:06:18,766 --> 00:06:21,700 and to play a role where 108 00:06:23,287 --> 00:06:27,533 she is this strong, determined, 109 00:06:28,948 --> 00:06:31,295 you know, hard working, 110 00:06:31,295 --> 00:06:32,745 desired, 111 00:06:33,815 --> 00:06:36,162 intelligent, black woman 112 00:06:36,162 --> 00:06:37,957 who is a detective. 113 00:06:37,957 --> 00:06:38,786 And 114 00:06:39,649 --> 00:06:41,202 it's different. 115 00:06:41,202 --> 00:06:44,550 And it's something that I've been craving for, you know. 116 00:06:44,550 --> 00:06:48,865 Been craving that for so long and yeah, 117 00:06:48,865 --> 00:06:49,693 it's, 118 00:06:51,764 --> 00:06:52,938 yeah, it's been, 119 00:06:54,836 --> 00:06:57,563 yeah, it's been a huge honor playing this role. 120 00:07:00,773 --> 00:07:03,811 [muffled club music] 121 00:07:13,786 --> 00:07:16,789 Where the hell would she wear these? 122 00:07:30,458 --> 00:07:31,286 - Bingo. 123 00:07:35,049 --> 00:07:37,500 [club music] 124 00:07:49,926 --> 00:07:51,928 - Where would Mariah get this much cash? 125 00:07:54,171 --> 00:07:56,346 - I don't know. 126 00:07:56,346 --> 00:07:58,313 - There's over $15,000 there. 127 00:07:59,522 --> 00:08:01,351 - Teenager with this much hidden money, 128 00:08:01,351 --> 00:08:03,318 suggests something illegal, 129 00:08:03,318 --> 00:08:07,978 drugs, gambling, selling stolen goods. 130 00:08:07,978 --> 00:08:09,704 - Yeah, well, she wouldn't do that. 131 00:08:12,086 --> 00:08:13,466 She's a good girl. 132 00:08:13,466 --> 00:08:14,295 - Yeah? 133 00:08:15,607 --> 00:08:18,264 You didn't know she was sneaking out to Perdar Theendar. 134 00:08:18,264 --> 00:08:19,852 You didn't know about the money. 135 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:24,995 - Then you tell me. 136 00:08:26,549 --> 00:08:29,862 You go and find out why she died and you come and tell me. 137 00:08:31,415 --> 00:08:32,244 Okay? 138 00:08:42,219 --> 00:08:43,048 Fuck. 139 00:08:58,063 --> 00:09:00,824 - This is my first time working with Luke Arnold. 140 00:09:00,824 --> 00:09:02,377 I, 141 00:09:02,377 --> 00:09:07,141 we did a chemistry test just before doing the shoot. And 142 00:09:08,314 --> 00:09:10,006 so that was my first time meeting him. 143 00:09:12,008 --> 00:09:14,044 And I knew immediately 144 00:09:14,044 --> 00:09:15,874 meeting him, I was like, Yep, 145 00:09:15,874 --> 00:09:18,601 this is someone I feel like we are gonna, 146 00:09:18,601 --> 00:09:23,329 we are really gonna push each other to bring out the best 147 00:09:23,329 --> 00:09:25,159 in each other in this, in this job. 148 00:09:25,159 --> 00:09:25,987 And, 149 00:09:27,437 --> 00:09:28,852 and it has been like that. 150 00:09:28,852 --> 00:09:31,614 It's been so amazing working alongside him. 151 00:09:34,547 --> 00:09:36,964 - Rhonda just wanted an update on where we're at. 152 00:09:38,103 --> 00:09:38,931 - Okay. 153 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,695 - So in total we've interviewed a number of people 154 00:09:43,695 --> 00:09:45,938 in Alice Springs and Perdar Theendar, 155 00:09:45,938 --> 00:09:47,630 but there's no major suspects yet. 156 00:09:50,287 --> 00:09:51,668 And Broderick's account was pretty similar 157 00:09:51,668 --> 00:09:53,739 to what Samuel reported, 158 00:09:53,739 --> 00:09:55,430 Mariah was already on the road, 159 00:09:55,430 --> 00:09:57,570 all they did, was take her to the clinic. 160 00:09:57,570 --> 00:09:59,745 - Did you find out what happened to his hand? 161 00:09:59,745 --> 00:10:00,953 - Yes, said he burnt it. 162 00:10:02,230 --> 00:10:03,542 - Did he say how. 163 00:10:03,542 --> 00:10:05,199 - Reckon it was another kangaroo cook up. 164 00:10:05,199 --> 00:10:06,027 - Do you believe him? 165 00:10:06,027 --> 00:10:08,098 - No, not for a minute. 166 00:10:08,098 --> 00:10:10,549 I think he was trying to get into the burning car. 167 00:10:10,549 --> 00:10:12,068 - But Mariah was already on the road. 168 00:10:12,068 --> 00:10:13,552 - Yeah, exactly. 169 00:10:13,552 --> 00:10:15,623 He let something else slip too, said they saw headlights 170 00:10:15,623 --> 00:10:18,384 of a vehicle driving away when they approached. 171 00:10:18,384 --> 00:10:21,077 But when I asked if he knew the car, he backed off. 172 00:10:21,077 --> 00:10:22,112 - He's hiding something. 173 00:10:22,112 --> 00:10:22,975 - Yeah, I reckon. 174 00:10:25,115 --> 00:10:27,255 - Good work, keep on it. 175 00:10:27,255 --> 00:10:28,394 Let me know how you go. 176 00:10:32,571 --> 00:10:34,677 [Nick sighs] 177 00:10:34,677 --> 00:10:35,954 - Hey Nick, thank you. 178 00:10:35,954 --> 00:10:37,645 - What the fuck's going on, Toni? 179 00:10:47,724 --> 00:10:50,727 - It'll always hold a special place in my heart 180 00:10:50,727 --> 00:10:51,555 and 181 00:10:52,453 --> 00:10:53,696 yeah, 182 00:10:53,696 --> 00:10:55,698 and it's nice to, 183 00:10:57,492 --> 00:10:59,253 Yeah, those ranges are amazing. 184 00:11:00,461 --> 00:11:02,670 You never get sick of looking at that country. 185 00:11:02,670 --> 00:11:04,154 You always look and you're in awe 186 00:11:04,154 --> 00:11:06,778 and it changes all the time with the light and everything. 187 00:11:06,778 --> 00:11:09,781 You're like, Wow. 188 00:11:09,781 --> 00:11:11,334 I find myself. 189 00:11:11,334 --> 00:11:15,372 Every day I try and just sit with the country, you know. 190 00:11:15,372 --> 00:11:16,615 In the morning or afternoon 191 00:11:16,615 --> 00:11:18,513 or whenever I just need some quiet. 192 00:11:18,513 --> 00:11:21,102 In between takes or scenes 193 00:11:21,102 --> 00:11:23,622 I just try and sit with the country and listen to it 194 00:11:23,622 --> 00:11:24,727 and just be present. 195 00:11:25,658 --> 00:11:28,661 [suspenseful music] 196 00:11:54,032 --> 00:11:56,655 - I'm Luke Arnold and I play Nick Gawler, 197 00:11:56,655 --> 00:12:01,660 who is not only the recently declared ex-boyfriend of Toni, 198 00:12:02,592 --> 00:12:04,697 but also another detective. 199 00:12:04,697 --> 00:12:08,391 So yeah, we have both kind of a relationship 200 00:12:09,702 --> 00:12:10,842 and a work relationship 201 00:12:10,842 --> 00:12:12,567 that we're working through during the show. 202 00:12:12,567 --> 00:12:13,499 - [Woman On Phone] I'm sending out 203 00:12:13,499 --> 00:12:14,293 another detective to assist you. 204 00:12:14,293 --> 00:12:15,087 - Sure. 205 00:12:16,675 --> 00:12:17,503 Who is it? 206 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,253 - How to define Nick? 207 00:12:43,253 --> 00:12:44,565 You know, my idea was a little bit 208 00:12:44,565 --> 00:12:46,360 that he was a social social worker before, 209 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:47,602 which I think gives him 210 00:12:47,602 --> 00:12:48,811 a different way of working with people. 211 00:12:48,811 --> 00:12:51,227 And that also, while he is a cop, 212 00:12:51,227 --> 00:12:53,885 he's really interested in Aboriginal culture 213 00:12:53,885 --> 00:12:55,990 and especially cause his love of Toni 214 00:12:55,990 --> 00:12:57,889 and wanting to be part of her world. 215 00:12:57,889 --> 00:13:00,995 That while he is coming in with a job to do 216 00:13:00,995 --> 00:13:02,997 and he does wanna find out what happened. 217 00:13:02,997 --> 00:13:06,759 That that is kind of as equally important to him 218 00:13:06,759 --> 00:13:09,590 as understanding the people in this world. 219 00:13:10,729 --> 00:13:13,490 [brooding music] 220 00:13:24,743 --> 00:13:25,986 - She's not here. 221 00:13:29,506 --> 00:13:32,095 What the fuck? This woman got no shame. 222 00:13:32,095 --> 00:13:32,958 - What? 223 00:13:32,958 --> 00:13:34,201 - The borders are black, 224 00:13:35,409 --> 00:13:37,514 the artists here don't paint them like that. 225 00:13:38,964 --> 00:13:40,379 - Okay, 226 00:13:40,379 --> 00:13:42,381 but can we focus on one crime at a time? 227 00:13:43,693 --> 00:13:45,143 [Toni chuckles] 228 00:13:45,143 --> 00:13:47,145 - So, where else would they go to paint? 229 00:13:57,914 --> 00:13:59,088 Working in Amoonguna, 230 00:13:59,088 --> 00:14:00,813 and working with people in the community 231 00:14:00,813 --> 00:14:03,161 and a lot of local actors and first time actors 232 00:14:03,161 --> 00:14:05,542 has been a huge highlight of this. 233 00:14:06,716 --> 00:14:08,476 Already being able to see some of the footage 234 00:14:08,476 --> 00:14:10,513 of some of these local actors 235 00:14:10,513 --> 00:14:11,617 who haven't done anything before 236 00:14:11,617 --> 00:14:13,481 and they're just incredible. 237 00:14:13,481 --> 00:14:16,588 Feel very kind of humbled by working alongside them 238 00:14:16,588 --> 00:14:18,141 and seeing what they bring. 239 00:14:18,141 --> 00:14:21,973 As well as everyone is just so forthcoming with 240 00:14:21,973 --> 00:14:23,733 whether it's teaching a bit of language 241 00:14:23,733 --> 00:14:25,355 or a little bit about the land 242 00:14:25,355 --> 00:14:28,393 and all the smoking ceremonies we had. 243 00:14:28,393 --> 00:14:31,396 It's been a real welcoming and educational experience 244 00:14:31,396 --> 00:14:32,500 from beginning to end. 245 00:14:33,846 --> 00:14:36,401 [somber music] 246 00:14:37,954 --> 00:14:40,577 [kids playing] 247 00:14:58,699 --> 00:15:01,322 [dogs barking] 248 00:15:08,226 --> 00:15:09,434 We were really lucky that, 249 00:15:09,434 --> 00:15:12,299 because of all the Covid stuff going on, 250 00:15:12,299 --> 00:15:15,026 a lot of us were able to get to Alice Springs a bit early, 251 00:15:15,026 --> 00:15:16,199 which means, 252 00:15:17,649 --> 00:15:19,927 which meant that Rarriwuy and I had a lot of time 253 00:15:19,927 --> 00:15:21,308 to do some rehearsals at the beginning 254 00:15:21,308 --> 00:15:22,895 to spend some time together. 255 00:15:22,895 --> 00:15:24,897 And it's a real privilege 256 00:15:24,897 --> 00:15:26,209 that you don't get on a lot of things. 257 00:15:26,209 --> 00:15:28,004 So it was great because 258 00:15:28,004 --> 00:15:31,801 we had time to really chart a relationship through the story 259 00:15:31,801 --> 00:15:34,873 Because it is a mystery, it's a detective show 260 00:15:34,873 --> 00:15:37,462 for a lot of the scenes that kind of takes the, 261 00:15:37,462 --> 00:15:39,429 that's where most of the text is. 262 00:15:39,429 --> 00:15:40,706 So it was really helpful for us 263 00:15:40,706 --> 00:15:42,985 that we had this time to dig into the subtext. 264 00:15:42,985 --> 00:15:44,227 And then also 265 00:15:44,227 --> 00:15:45,711 then we had time to like, you know, 266 00:15:45,711 --> 00:15:47,196 go and have a drink and, you know, 267 00:15:47,196 --> 00:15:49,060 sometimes we were like, you know, sitting at the pub, 268 00:15:49,060 --> 00:15:52,201 going through all our lines there and kind of working on it, 269 00:15:52,201 --> 00:15:55,998 which meant that you kind of get to build the relationship 270 00:15:55,998 --> 00:15:58,000 and kind of these memories and a sense of each other, 271 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,588 which really informs us when we're gonna do scenes, 272 00:16:00,588 --> 00:16:02,797 when we are talking about the characters 273 00:16:02,797 --> 00:16:04,385 spending time in Alice together. 274 00:16:05,766 --> 00:16:08,217 - How did Samuel handle Xavier? 275 00:16:08,217 --> 00:16:10,012 Was he genuinely chasing answers? 276 00:16:11,116 --> 00:16:13,705 - You really don't trust your uncle, do you? 277 00:16:13,705 --> 00:16:15,396 - We know Brendan was with Mariah, 278 00:16:15,396 --> 00:16:17,778 so those fellahs are covering something up 279 00:16:17,778 --> 00:16:19,055 and Samuel's letting them. 280 00:16:20,470 --> 00:16:21,782 - Okay, 281 00:16:21,782 --> 00:16:23,818 so how do we find out who's telling the truth? 282 00:16:35,175 --> 00:16:37,625 I've been working as an actor in Australia 283 00:16:37,625 --> 00:16:41,146 since I finished drama school in about 2006. 284 00:16:41,146 --> 00:16:43,666 And this really feels, more than anything else, 285 00:16:43,666 --> 00:16:45,392 like I'm part of a real Australian story, 286 00:16:45,392 --> 00:16:47,773 doing something that hasn't been done before, 287 00:16:47,773 --> 00:16:49,223 showing a side of Australia 288 00:16:49,223 --> 00:16:51,432 that I don't think we've seen on a TV series before. 289 00:16:51,432 --> 00:16:55,057 Especially because we hear English and Arrernte, 290 00:16:55,057 --> 00:16:57,611 we're in a community, we see some things 291 00:16:57,611 --> 00:16:59,061 about aboriginal culture that 292 00:17:00,476 --> 00:17:03,065 I didn't really know about and especially to this extent. 293 00:17:03,065 --> 00:17:06,482 So I feel really proud to be part of this story 294 00:17:06,482 --> 00:17:09,657 and I've been learning a lot as part of it, 295 00:17:09,657 --> 00:17:11,141 as far as being a part of it. 296 00:17:11,141 --> 00:17:15,042 And I feel really proud that I get to be part of the story 297 00:17:15,042 --> 00:17:16,457 that we get to share with other people 298 00:17:16,457 --> 00:17:18,632 and show some things that they might not know. 299 00:17:25,156 --> 00:17:30,161 [phone says Arrernte word] [Nick repeats Arrernte word] 300 00:17:44,451 --> 00:17:47,799 [speaking in Arrernte] 301 00:17:47,799 --> 00:17:52,804 - I'm Miranda Otto. I'm playing Isabelle in True Colors 302 00:17:53,874 --> 00:17:55,220 and you wanna introduce yourself, Marie. 303 00:17:56,325 --> 00:17:58,672 My name's Marie Elena Ellis 304 00:17:58,672 --> 00:18:02,193 and I'm the Arrernte translator and interpreter 305 00:18:02,193 --> 00:18:03,815 and working closely with Miranda. 306 00:18:03,815 --> 00:18:04,643 - Yeah. 307 00:18:06,542 --> 00:18:09,407 I first met Marie here, 308 00:18:09,407 --> 00:18:11,305 first of all, she sent me some recordings, 309 00:18:11,305 --> 00:18:12,789 which was really helpful, 310 00:18:12,789 --> 00:18:16,552 but I realized I was gonna have to do some serious work. 311 00:18:16,552 --> 00:18:20,349 And then I met Marie at the production office 312 00:18:20,349 --> 00:18:24,353 and she has this whole amazing classroom set up in there 313 00:18:24,353 --> 00:18:27,563 with all the dialogue up on the wall 314 00:18:27,563 --> 00:18:31,394 and it written phonetically and then it written in Arrernte 315 00:18:31,394 --> 00:18:32,913 and written in English. 316 00:18:32,913 --> 00:18:35,191 - So there's a character named Viv 317 00:18:35,191 --> 00:18:37,573 that's in episode one, page 37. 318 00:18:37,573 --> 00:18:40,231 In English she's saying, Hey pull up. 319 00:18:40,231 --> 00:18:41,611 You know, you got no shame. 320 00:18:42,785 --> 00:18:47,099 And then in Arrernte, [speaking Arrernte] 321 00:18:47,099 --> 00:18:50,379 and then that's in Arrernte and in 322 00:18:50,379 --> 00:18:53,761 phonetically I break it down in orange. 323 00:18:53,761 --> 00:18:55,556 It's been a challenge. 324 00:18:55,556 --> 00:18:57,040 Really it's been a challenge. 325 00:18:58,628 --> 00:19:01,044 Yeah working with you like, you know, 326 00:19:01,044 --> 00:19:03,357 first, second, the third day you nail it. 327 00:19:03,357 --> 00:19:08,362 You got the sounding of the words in Arrernte and like, 328 00:19:08,362 --> 00:19:11,883 I was surprised in how quickly you learnt because 329 00:19:11,883 --> 00:19:16,888 you're my good student because you listen to instructions. 330 00:19:18,027 --> 00:19:19,822 And the sounding that you make to sound. 331 00:19:19,822 --> 00:19:21,099 - Thank you. - You know? 332 00:19:21,099 --> 00:19:24,378 - Yeah. What was really great was like I, 333 00:19:24,378 --> 00:19:25,862 I'm just one of those people 334 00:19:25,862 --> 00:19:29,383 who like always wants to just try and get in and nail it 335 00:19:29,383 --> 00:19:31,247 and you're like, relax, 336 00:19:31,247 --> 00:19:32,593 breathe. - Breathe. 337 00:19:34,146 --> 00:19:37,874 - So like, I could do it better. I was getting better at it 338 00:19:37,874 --> 00:19:40,498 when I wasn't thinking about it so much. 339 00:19:40,498 --> 00:19:42,638 - And I keep telling Miranda to, you know, 340 00:19:42,638 --> 00:19:46,020 just clear your mind, close your eye, close your mouth 341 00:19:46,020 --> 00:19:49,058 and open your ears and just inhale and exhale. 342 00:19:49,058 --> 00:19:50,266 And that helped a lot. Didn't it? 343 00:19:50,266 --> 00:19:52,579 - It did. Actually a lot of my experience here 344 00:19:52,579 --> 00:19:55,098 has been like that. I think, you know, 345 00:19:55,098 --> 00:19:59,413 you come in sometimes with your city mentality, 346 00:19:59,413 --> 00:20:01,691 you know, you're like fast, fast, busy, busy. 347 00:20:01,691 --> 00:20:04,038 Must do this, must achieve that. 348 00:20:05,799 --> 00:20:08,767 It's been really nice to be here and just like 349 00:20:08,767 --> 00:20:10,907 settle into things. 350 00:20:10,907 --> 00:20:14,152 And a lot of it is about listening. 351 00:20:14,152 --> 00:20:17,466 Yeah. You'd say close your eyes, just listen to what I say. 352 00:20:18,846 --> 00:20:20,710 - Listen to the rhythm, the sound, 353 00:20:22,298 --> 00:20:23,437 when we speaking. 354 00:20:24,611 --> 00:20:26,198 And that's the easiest way to learn it, 355 00:20:26,198 --> 00:20:28,960 is listening to the sound and the rhythm. 356 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,858 Like the one you got like 357 00:20:32,481 --> 00:20:34,828 [speaking Arrernte] 358 00:20:34,828 --> 00:20:36,070 Remember that? 359 00:20:36,070 --> 00:20:38,590 - Yes, We spent a long time on Akaltja. 360 00:20:38,590 --> 00:20:40,696 - Mmm. Akaltja. 361 00:20:40,696 --> 00:20:42,594 And you keep saying Aah-kiii-tcha 362 00:20:42,594 --> 00:20:44,320 And I said Aah-kal-tcha. 363 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:45,287 And I said you gotta say it like, you mean like. 364 00:20:45,287 --> 00:20:47,012 - Like you're a desert woman. 365 00:20:47,012 --> 00:20:49,567 - Yeah. You gotta say it like you mean it. 366 00:20:49,567 --> 00:20:52,294 [speaking Arrernte] 367 00:20:52,294 --> 00:20:55,158 - If you must know my fee is 60%. 368 00:20:56,056 --> 00:20:57,299 If you're that interested, 369 00:20:57,299 --> 00:20:58,852 I could sell you one at family rates. 370 00:21:04,271 --> 00:21:05,272 - How much? 371 00:21:05,272 --> 00:21:06,100 - For family 372 00:21:07,930 --> 00:21:10,415 45, 50,000. 373 00:21:14,246 --> 00:21:17,249 [speaking Arrernte] 374 00:21:17,249 --> 00:21:19,942 Cause you were saying Arrernte is different 375 00:21:19,942 --> 00:21:23,255 to like all the different indigenous languages 376 00:21:23,255 --> 00:21:24,740 in Australia are all different. 377 00:21:24,740 --> 00:21:26,914 But that this one, you were saying, 378 00:21:26,914 --> 00:21:31,919 was particularly straightforward and like very 379 00:21:33,093 --> 00:21:36,234 like not loose and slow. It's very like direct. 380 00:21:36,234 --> 00:21:37,062 - Direct, direct. 381 00:21:37,062 --> 00:21:39,617 No time waster. 382 00:21:39,617 --> 00:21:40,859 - Yeah. 383 00:21:40,859 --> 00:21:42,516 - You know, you got no time to waste. 384 00:21:42,516 --> 00:21:45,381 You just gotta say it, communicate, and then move on. 385 00:21:45,381 --> 00:21:47,901 - Yeah. - It's like bang and then go. 386 00:21:49,109 --> 00:21:49,868 It's like 387 00:21:51,698 --> 00:21:53,769 in the desert, it's all about 388 00:21:53,769 --> 00:21:57,220 that communication. You gotta say it straight to, you know, 389 00:21:57,220 --> 00:22:01,811 you gotta walk maybe a hundred Ks or whatever 390 00:22:01,811 --> 00:22:03,054 to the nearest water hole. 391 00:22:03,054 --> 00:22:05,470 So you have to have that minimum language 392 00:22:05,470 --> 00:22:07,714 and that clear instruction and direction. 393 00:22:07,714 --> 00:22:08,577 - Yeah. 394 00:22:08,577 --> 00:22:10,613 And like, yeah. 395 00:22:10,613 --> 00:22:13,098 And Arrernte is the hardest language in, you know, 396 00:22:13,098 --> 00:22:17,586 to try and learn to speak it and learn it and whatever 397 00:22:17,586 --> 00:22:20,347 in two weeks or whatever. - Yeah. 398 00:22:20,347 --> 00:22:21,762 - But I think you'd nailed it. 399 00:22:21,762 --> 00:22:23,005 You've nailed it. Definitely. 400 00:22:23,005 --> 00:22:25,110 - You're so, so kind. 401 00:22:25,110 --> 00:22:26,353 You're so kind. 402 00:22:26,353 --> 00:22:29,460 - And every time you said it on set, 403 00:22:29,460 --> 00:22:31,738 like when you was doin' your line, like, 404 00:22:31,738 --> 00:22:35,535 I get these goosebumps and I was like, yes, she nailed it. 405 00:22:35,535 --> 00:22:38,952 Yeah. Because like you listen to direction. 406 00:22:38,952 --> 00:22:43,715 - What does it feel like to have your language spoken 407 00:22:43,715 --> 00:22:45,441 in a television show? 408 00:22:46,408 --> 00:22:47,581 - Well, it's gonna be awesome. 409 00:22:47,581 --> 00:22:48,686 It's gonna be like, 410 00:22:50,101 --> 00:22:53,415 it's gonna make a lot of Arrernte nation proud, really. 411 00:23:06,980 --> 00:23:08,568 - I mean, for me that's one of the most, 412 00:23:08,568 --> 00:23:10,673 the things I'm proudest of with the series 413 00:23:10,673 --> 00:23:14,125 that we've managed to get Arrernte language in, 414 00:23:15,333 --> 00:23:16,852 you know. 415 00:23:16,852 --> 00:23:20,442 When you in Central Australia, when you're in Alice Springs, 416 00:23:20,442 --> 00:23:23,962 it's very, very difficult to ignore 417 00:23:23,962 --> 00:23:26,171 that there are many, many Aboriginal languages 418 00:23:26,171 --> 00:23:28,450 alive and being spoken. 419 00:23:28,450 --> 00:23:30,762 Doesn't matter what culture you come from, 420 00:23:30,762 --> 00:23:34,456 white fellas, black fellas, Africans, Indians, Asians. 421 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,217 Aboriginal language is alive 422 00:23:37,217 --> 00:23:40,634 and very, very present in this town. 423 00:23:40,634 --> 00:23:44,086 And to actually make a series without it 424 00:23:44,086 --> 00:23:48,608 would be incredibly odd, set this town, like really odd. 425 00:23:49,919 --> 00:23:52,991 So, and as you probably know, 426 00:23:52,991 --> 00:23:57,064 that guy who came up with the initial idea, Warren Williams, 427 00:23:57,064 --> 00:24:00,102 he's an Arrernte Man, so, and he's from, you know, 428 00:24:00,102 --> 00:24:02,138 born and bred in this town. And so 429 00:24:03,415 --> 00:24:04,900 it was natural 430 00:24:04,900 --> 00:24:06,142 that we were gonna head to the Arrernte language, 431 00:24:06,142 --> 00:24:09,594 because Alice Springs is on Arrernte land. 432 00:24:11,354 --> 00:24:13,495 And it's a joy for me because that's my background. 433 00:24:13,495 --> 00:24:15,635 I come from community media where we, 434 00:24:15,635 --> 00:24:16,877 a lot of our work 435 00:24:16,877 --> 00:24:20,950 was about giving space to aboriginal languages. 436 00:24:20,950 --> 00:24:22,331 And 437 00:24:22,331 --> 00:24:23,953 look, to be honest, 438 00:24:23,953 --> 00:24:27,094 the rest of the country are doing little bit better 439 00:24:27,094 --> 00:24:28,613 in understanding 440 00:24:29,959 --> 00:24:33,204 the value of the languages from this country, 441 00:24:33,204 --> 00:24:36,103 the original languages from this country. 442 00:24:36,103 --> 00:24:37,898 But perhaps they're not doing enough. 443 00:24:37,898 --> 00:24:39,969 So it's good. I'm really, yeah, like I said, 444 00:24:39,969 --> 00:24:42,938 I'm really, really proud to, you know, give it another boost 445 00:24:42,938 --> 00:24:44,353 and put it in people's faces 446 00:24:44,353 --> 00:24:47,459 and let them feel it and hear it and see it. 447 00:24:47,459 --> 00:24:49,565 And I know that a lot of our local cast 448 00:24:49,565 --> 00:24:52,810 are very, very happy about us taking that approach. 449 00:24:54,536 --> 00:24:57,539 [speaking Arrernte] 450 00:25:12,519 --> 00:25:13,865 - Yeah, they're beautiful. 451 00:25:15,315 --> 00:25:18,870 But I'm actually looking for this lady right here, Yvette. 452 00:25:18,870 --> 00:25:19,699 Do you know her? 453 00:25:22,598 --> 00:25:26,429 [speaking Arrernte] 454 00:25:26,429 --> 00:25:28,431 No, I don't wanna buy her paintings. 455 00:25:28,431 --> 00:25:30,502 I just wanna talk to her. 456 00:25:30,502 --> 00:25:33,505 [speaking Arrernte] 457 00:25:46,001 --> 00:25:46,864 - Which clinic? 458 00:25:48,210 --> 00:25:49,867 - You, bigshot. Figure it out. 459 00:26:00,429 --> 00:26:02,155 - For me. I mean, 460 00:26:02,155 --> 00:26:03,984 I live between Alice Springs and Sydney, 461 00:26:03,984 --> 00:26:07,470 and when I walk down the street in Sydney where I live, 462 00:26:07,470 --> 00:26:10,784 every single house has an Aboriginal artwork on its wall. 463 00:26:10,784 --> 00:26:12,786 And, you know, 464 00:26:12,786 --> 00:26:15,202 that's bloody fantastic 465 00:26:15,202 --> 00:26:19,034 because the art industry is a vital part of this community. 466 00:26:20,242 --> 00:26:22,589 But I don't know that everybody knows, 467 00:26:22,589 --> 00:26:24,798 They might know a little bit of the story of that artwork. 468 00:26:24,798 --> 00:26:28,353 They might know some of the symbolism in it, 469 00:26:28,353 --> 00:26:31,771 but I don't know if they know where it really comes from, 470 00:26:31,771 --> 00:26:33,773 where it's, and you know, 471 00:26:35,222 --> 00:26:37,639 I think it's important for them to understand that. 472 00:26:37,639 --> 00:26:40,780 So, you know, we chose to set our mystery 473 00:26:40,780 --> 00:26:45,785 in the aboriginal art world, and to give it some context 474 00:26:46,889 --> 00:26:48,132 for the deeper meaning of that art. 475 00:26:48,132 --> 00:26:50,341 And you know, that there are owners of that art 476 00:26:50,341 --> 00:26:52,481 and other caretakers of that art 477 00:26:55,553 --> 00:26:57,037 or that, you know, 478 00:26:57,037 --> 00:27:00,282 people are willing to go to great lengths to protect that. 479 00:27:02,111 --> 00:27:05,045 [speaking Arrernte] 480 00:27:07,876 --> 00:27:09,394 - Yeah, 481 00:27:09,394 --> 00:27:10,223 of course. 482 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,573 We've got boomerangs, 483 00:27:17,402 --> 00:27:19,059 spears, 484 00:27:19,059 --> 00:27:20,612 digging sticks, 485 00:27:20,612 --> 00:27:22,891 grinding stones, shields, 486 00:27:24,755 --> 00:27:26,446 men and women together, 487 00:27:28,690 --> 00:27:32,038 hunting and traveling from waterhole to waterhole. 488 00:27:40,874 --> 00:27:41,703 - Almost. 489 00:27:43,187 --> 00:27:47,225 It's actually young people hunting in the Sand hills. 490 00:27:47,225 --> 00:27:50,504 It talks about how they used to walk around naked 491 00:27:51,402 --> 00:27:53,404 and how they'd swim together 492 00:27:53,404 --> 00:27:55,130 and make love by the waterholes. 493 00:27:56,752 --> 00:27:57,753 It's beautiful. Huh? 494 00:28:01,964 --> 00:28:02,758 - Great. 495 00:28:12,734 --> 00:28:16,738 - It is a common experience for a lot of aboriginal people 496 00:28:16,738 --> 00:28:19,844 that they are for some reason 497 00:28:19,844 --> 00:28:23,330 distant from their homelands and their communities. 498 00:28:23,330 --> 00:28:24,159 And 499 00:28:26,126 --> 00:28:29,751 When Rarriwuy Hick, who is our lead actress, 500 00:28:29,751 --> 00:28:30,855 read the script, she said, 501 00:28:30,855 --> 00:28:32,961 Oh my gosh, this is my story. 502 00:28:32,961 --> 00:28:35,377 I actually lived away from my home, 503 00:28:35,377 --> 00:28:38,380 away from my family for quite a lot of time 504 00:28:38,380 --> 00:28:40,347 and I've had to renegotiate it. 505 00:28:40,347 --> 00:28:43,592 And in the process of negotiating my way 506 00:28:43,592 --> 00:28:45,387 and reconnecting with my family 507 00:28:46,768 --> 00:28:51,151 and one of the big themes in our series is that, 508 00:28:51,151 --> 00:28:51,980 and 509 00:28:52,808 --> 00:28:54,292 yeah, 510 00:28:54,292 --> 00:28:55,638 she's probably not the only person to have said that 511 00:28:55,638 --> 00:28:57,123 when she's read the scripts. It's like, 512 00:28:57,123 --> 00:28:59,781 Oh, this is my story. This is my story, you know. 513 00:29:01,403 --> 00:29:06,408 [speaking Arrernte] [Toni laughing] 514 00:29:16,004 --> 00:29:17,350 - Yeah I know, mum. 515 00:29:17,350 --> 00:29:18,178 I'm sorry. 516 00:29:27,774 --> 00:29:29,431 - People are still living 517 00:29:29,431 --> 00:29:33,021 in very, very close family group situations 518 00:29:33,021 --> 00:29:37,439 and our families are often very big and very extended, 519 00:29:37,439 --> 00:29:40,338 and that's your world, you know. 520 00:29:40,338 --> 00:29:42,996 And so it felt right 521 00:29:42,996 --> 00:29:45,481 that our lead cop 522 00:29:46,413 --> 00:29:48,726 is investigating her own family. 523 00:29:48,726 --> 00:29:51,902 And in fact, you know, to be honest, what happened was 524 00:29:51,902 --> 00:29:54,628 Warren said who he wanted the murderer to be. 525 00:29:54,628 --> 00:29:57,631 When he first sort of pitched it with his one line idea, 526 00:29:57,631 --> 00:29:59,841 he said, and I want the murderer to be. 527 00:30:01,290 --> 00:30:02,878 - You said you'd bring him back. 528 00:30:05,398 --> 00:30:06,295 Now he's dead. 529 00:30:07,124 --> 00:30:08,263 What the fuck happened? 530 00:30:11,438 --> 00:30:12,267 [speaking Arrernte] 531 00:30:12,267 --> 00:30:13,095 - In English! 532 00:30:16,685 --> 00:30:17,513 - I found him. 533 00:30:18,514 --> 00:30:20,033 He knew he was in trouble. 534 00:30:20,033 --> 00:30:20,862 He took off. 535 00:30:21,897 --> 00:30:22,864 Crashed. 536 00:30:22,864 --> 00:30:23,726 And now he's, 537 00:30:24,866 --> 00:30:25,867 finished up. 538 00:30:28,076 --> 00:30:29,042 - Did you go alone? 539 00:30:30,561 --> 00:30:31,976 Did you take anyone with you? 540 00:30:33,426 --> 00:30:36,015 Was he sung, punishment for stealing those paintings? 541 00:30:36,015 --> 00:30:38,051 [speaking Arrernte] 542 00:30:38,051 --> 00:30:39,294 - You've got no fuckin' respect. 543 00:30:39,294 --> 00:30:40,951 - Don't you hide behind our culture. 544 00:30:42,124 --> 00:30:44,195 Sleeping with Isabelle? Drinking? 545 00:30:45,438 --> 00:30:46,646 You're full of shit. 546 00:30:48,855 --> 00:30:51,306 You choose the cultural line when it suits you. 547 00:30:51,306 --> 00:30:53,204 - I know where my line is. 548 00:30:53,204 --> 00:30:56,656 I might have broken whitefella law, not my family law. 549 00:31:12,327 --> 00:31:14,432 - Amoonguna community just rocks. 550 00:31:14,432 --> 00:31:17,263 You cannot pay for this stuff. You cannot set it up. 551 00:31:17,263 --> 00:31:20,335 You cannot art direct it. You cannot direct it. 552 00:31:20,335 --> 00:31:24,132 The massive, massive backing, the massive involvement, 553 00:31:24,132 --> 00:31:28,377 the day to day just graciousness and 554 00:31:29,309 --> 00:31:30,517 support, 555 00:31:30,517 --> 00:31:33,244 and to my great relief 556 00:31:34,728 --> 00:31:36,558 pride it's bringing to people. 557 00:31:36,558 --> 00:31:39,457 Like you're seeing people lift their heads and be amazed 558 00:31:39,457 --> 00:31:40,907 and do amazing things 559 00:31:40,907 --> 00:31:43,496 that they thought that they would never do before. 560 00:31:43,496 --> 00:31:45,291 Like, it just gives 561 00:31:45,291 --> 00:31:48,535 A. it gives me deep satisfaction, 562 00:31:48,535 --> 00:31:52,263 but it just gives me pride for them too. 563 00:31:52,263 --> 00:31:54,369 Like, you could not ask for anything else. 564 00:31:54,369 --> 00:31:58,787 You could not ask for for more. You couldn't. 565 00:32:00,996 --> 00:32:03,309 - [Isabelle] If we don't find her, I'm screwed. 566 00:32:04,241 --> 00:32:06,208 I'm sure Xavier's involved. 567 00:32:06,208 --> 00:32:08,521 We should have Xavier charged with kidnapping. 568 00:32:12,456 --> 00:32:16,115 [speaking foreign language] 569 00:32:32,269 --> 00:32:33,684 Uuh, careful. 570 00:32:33,684 --> 00:32:35,582 Speaking another language will make me think 571 00:32:35,582 --> 00:32:37,895 that you're trying to hide something from me. 572 00:32:38,930 --> 00:32:40,415 - Hey, you are good. 573 00:32:40,415 --> 00:32:41,312 You noticed. 574 00:32:42,348 --> 00:32:44,557 - That's Latji language. 575 00:32:44,557 --> 00:32:46,145 It's from southside. 576 00:32:46,145 --> 00:32:49,355 We had a bet you'd be able to pick it up, our loss. 577 00:32:53,083 --> 00:32:56,051 [panicked Arrernte] 578 00:33:07,856 --> 00:33:09,478 - Is he breathing? 579 00:33:09,478 --> 00:33:10,583 Can you tell if he's breathing? 580 00:33:13,689 --> 00:33:16,692 [speaking Arrernte] 581 00:33:16,692 --> 00:33:18,039 - Brendan, Brendan, Brendan. 582 00:33:21,663 --> 00:33:23,941 - There's no doubt that the local casting 583 00:33:23,941 --> 00:33:27,703 done by Peta-Lee and Tanith is like, 584 00:33:27,703 --> 00:33:29,291 they've knocked it out of the ballpark. 585 00:33:29,291 --> 00:33:32,605 Every single person that stands in front of that camera 586 00:33:32,605 --> 00:33:36,229 has been ready and willing to go. 587 00:33:36,229 --> 00:33:37,782 And they want to perfect it. 588 00:33:37,782 --> 00:33:42,787 And they are, they sizzle on screen. It's just, 589 00:33:43,961 --> 00:33:46,067 I'm so thankful because, you know, 590 00:33:46,067 --> 00:33:47,551 I wondered whether or not 591 00:33:47,551 --> 00:33:51,486 we were gonna be able to pull this off, and we have. 592 00:34:19,307 --> 00:34:20,445 In the first instance, 593 00:34:20,445 --> 00:34:22,172 that they have a bloody great experience 594 00:34:22,172 --> 00:34:24,070 watching a great narrative, 595 00:34:24,070 --> 00:34:27,624 a great kind of story journey and stuff. But you know, 596 00:34:29,179 --> 00:34:32,113 I'm a black filmmaker. My responsibility is never, you know, 597 00:34:32,113 --> 00:34:34,391 there are dual responsibilities with what I do 598 00:34:34,391 --> 00:34:35,978 in everything that I make. 599 00:34:35,978 --> 00:34:38,912 I've gotta make this be a great story. 600 00:34:38,912 --> 00:34:41,742 I've also gotta give insights into my community, 601 00:34:41,742 --> 00:34:46,092 insights into our world and insights into our culture. 602 00:34:46,092 --> 00:34:49,233 And not in a fake way. I've gotta do that in a real way, 603 00:34:49,233 --> 00:34:54,238 in a way that gives my community pride and makes them go, 604 00:34:54,997 --> 00:34:56,137 Yes, that's right. 605 00:34:56,137 --> 00:34:58,449 I feel like I'm represented correctly. 606 00:34:58,449 --> 00:35:01,556 So yeah, that's the big hope. And it's not easy. 607 00:35:01,556 --> 00:35:05,456 None of that's easy. So, and we're not quite there yet. 608 00:35:07,148 --> 00:35:09,805 [women wailing] 609 00:35:11,531 --> 00:35:14,258 [paint smearing] 610 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,803 [wailing continues] 611 00:35:53,849 --> 00:35:57,267 [melancholy hawk squawk] 612 00:36:34,511 --> 00:36:35,891 - My name's Steve McGregor. 613 00:36:35,891 --> 00:36:38,239 I'm one of the directors along with Erica Glynn 614 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,481 and also one of the writers 615 00:36:39,481 --> 00:36:42,450 along with Erica and Danielle MacLean. 616 00:36:43,623 --> 00:36:46,661 For me what True Colors represents 617 00:36:46,661 --> 00:36:50,596 is family, culture, land, and law. 618 00:36:52,183 --> 00:36:54,324 And all that is represented in the artwork, 619 00:36:54,324 --> 00:36:56,947 which comes from the land and the law. 620 00:36:56,947 --> 00:37:00,261 And our main character, Toni, who's played by Rarriwuy Hick, 621 00:37:00,261 --> 00:37:02,435 is thrust in the middle of that story, 622 00:37:02,435 --> 00:37:06,612 that confluence of thematic storylines. 623 00:37:07,785 --> 00:37:11,375 And she has to navigate her way through that. 624 00:37:11,375 --> 00:37:13,446 So she's at the center of that narrative. 625 00:37:27,218 --> 00:37:30,843 Now I've known Erica for a very, very long time and there's 626 00:37:30,843 --> 00:37:32,258 very lucky to work with her. 627 00:37:32,258 --> 00:37:34,329 I've worked with her in various capacities 628 00:37:34,329 --> 00:37:36,504 but not co-directing before, 629 00:37:36,504 --> 00:37:39,230 and it's a very respectful relationship. 630 00:37:39,230 --> 00:37:40,784 You know, I think 631 00:37:40,784 --> 00:37:43,649 I know we're leaning on each other at times 632 00:37:43,649 --> 00:37:46,134 and we just questioning storylines 633 00:37:46,134 --> 00:37:47,342 or a way to approach things. 634 00:37:47,342 --> 00:37:50,311 So it's a very open dialogue and sharing. 635 00:37:51,657 --> 00:37:53,003 You know, if we take the storyline this way or that way 636 00:37:53,003 --> 00:37:55,074 or how are you shaping the character. 637 00:37:55,074 --> 00:37:57,766 So when I'm directing those actors, that they're not thrown. 638 00:37:57,766 --> 00:38:01,736 It's like, a clean line for the character's journey. 639 00:38:01,736 --> 00:38:03,047 So no, it's been really good. 640 00:38:03,047 --> 00:38:05,395 And also being in the story room with her 641 00:38:05,395 --> 00:38:09,571 alongside Danielle MacLean and Warren Williams. 642 00:38:09,571 --> 00:38:11,677 You know, we came up with a story. 643 00:38:11,677 --> 00:38:13,506 So we're both intimately involved. 644 00:38:24,448 --> 00:38:25,760 It's exciting cause you write it 645 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,762 and people make things happen, you know. 646 00:38:28,970 --> 00:38:30,627 It's all there. So it's been amazing. 647 00:38:30,627 --> 00:38:33,871 And then you get actors to say the words 648 00:38:33,871 --> 00:38:36,011 and then they bring their craft to it 649 00:38:36,011 --> 00:38:38,393 and then they do things that you'd never expected before 650 00:38:38,393 --> 00:38:39,912 and it brings it to life. 651 00:38:39,912 --> 00:38:42,466 It's just exciting to see everyone working so hard 652 00:38:42,466 --> 00:38:46,263 to bring it to life. And it's interesting, like, 653 00:38:46,263 --> 00:38:47,851 I like the fact that I'm not, 654 00:38:47,851 --> 00:38:49,749 I'm directing Danielle's script, not one of my, 655 00:38:49,749 --> 00:38:54,029 I'm directing one of my own, but also directing Danielle's 656 00:38:54,029 --> 00:38:56,031 and interpreting her words. 657 00:38:56,031 --> 00:38:58,033 And Erica's directing one of my scripts 658 00:38:58,033 --> 00:38:59,759 and she's coming at it with her voice 659 00:38:59,759 --> 00:39:03,522 and her sense of stories. And you know, 660 00:39:03,522 --> 00:39:05,627 basically once you hand a script over to a director, 661 00:39:05,627 --> 00:39:07,871 I think you have to give over that ownership. 662 00:39:09,010 --> 00:39:11,564 - I gotta go to my family's out station. 663 00:39:11,564 --> 00:39:13,324 I think Brendan might be out there. 664 00:39:14,187 --> 00:39:15,637 - All right, I'll come with you. 665 00:39:15,637 --> 00:39:18,399 - You can't, I gotta go alone. 666 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:20,608 - How's that gonna work? 667 00:39:22,851 --> 00:39:24,163 If Brendan killed Mariah. 668 00:39:25,751 --> 00:39:27,925 Toni, we can't have him arrested by his own sister. 669 00:39:27,925 --> 00:39:30,238 - My uncle Ezekiel is out there, 670 00:39:30,238 --> 00:39:31,515 He's the big boss for all of us. 671 00:39:31,515 --> 00:39:33,793 He's not gonna let his nephew jump in the car 672 00:39:33,793 --> 00:39:34,829 with a white cop. 673 00:39:35,830 --> 00:39:36,658 - Okay, 674 00:39:38,177 --> 00:39:40,006 but don't interview him. 675 00:39:40,006 --> 00:39:41,663 Don't even talk to him. 676 00:39:41,663 --> 00:39:45,356 Just bring him back here and we do it together, officially. 677 00:39:54,745 --> 00:39:55,988 - Well I think it's very important 678 00:39:55,988 --> 00:39:57,472 because a lot of people down south 679 00:39:57,472 --> 00:39:59,405 have no idea that this world exists. 680 00:39:59,405 --> 00:40:02,373 And there's a whole system of governance and law and culture 681 00:40:02,373 --> 00:40:07,275 that's been here since, you know, the first sun rose. 682 00:40:07,275 --> 00:40:10,968 And to have language, which is identity, you know, 683 00:40:10,968 --> 00:40:13,074 we're saying identity exists here 684 00:40:13,074 --> 00:40:15,766 and that's the Australian identity. 685 00:40:15,766 --> 00:40:18,217 And it ain't going anywhere. So, 686 00:40:18,217 --> 00:40:19,770 And it gives 687 00:40:19,770 --> 00:40:21,634 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people pride 688 00:40:21,634 --> 00:40:23,740 to hear language on television screens 689 00:40:23,740 --> 00:40:25,120 cause it's never heard, you know, 690 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,916 not in this sense where a whole drama series 691 00:40:27,916 --> 00:40:29,504 is based in a community. 692 00:40:29,504 --> 00:40:31,575 And you can just see a lot of our actors, 693 00:40:31,575 --> 00:40:34,371 who aren't professional actors, they come to life, 694 00:40:34,371 --> 00:40:36,994 the fact that they can speak their language on television 695 00:40:36,994 --> 00:40:39,031 and they're up against some good actors 696 00:40:39,031 --> 00:40:40,377 and they're holding their ground, you know, 697 00:40:40,377 --> 00:40:41,585 they're not intimidated. 698 00:40:42,483 --> 00:40:44,346 And I think it's really special. 699 00:40:49,973 --> 00:40:51,008 - What did he say? 700 00:40:52,147 --> 00:40:55,116 [speaking Arrernte] 701 00:41:01,363 --> 00:41:02,848 - How many men were out there? 702 00:41:03,676 --> 00:41:06,299 [speaking in Arrernte] 703 00:41:06,299 --> 00:41:08,025 - How long were they out in the desert for? 704 00:41:08,025 --> 00:41:09,302 - You got a couple of weeks. 705 00:41:09,302 --> 00:41:10,890 - Couple of weeks? 706 00:41:10,890 --> 00:41:13,686 I thought men's business went for months. 707 00:41:13,686 --> 00:41:16,689 [speaking Arrernte] 708 00:41:29,771 --> 00:41:31,739 - Every day's a highlight, every day's a challenge. 709 00:41:31,739 --> 00:41:33,188 But it's, 710 00:41:33,188 --> 00:41:36,985 I mean we have a really hardworking, respectful crew. 711 00:41:36,985 --> 00:41:38,504 You know, you're only as good as your crew. 712 00:41:38,504 --> 00:41:42,025 So you have that support behind you. And I think, 713 00:41:43,198 --> 00:41:46,408 I mean basically that's my highlight, really. 714 00:41:46,408 --> 00:41:50,654 Cause a lot of these crew mob haven't been up here before, 715 00:41:50,654 --> 00:41:51,897 you know. 716 00:41:51,897 --> 00:41:53,519 And they've all been overwhelmed and 717 00:41:55,797 --> 00:41:59,387 taken in by the countryside, the people, the culture. 718 00:41:59,387 --> 00:42:01,492 So I think they will take that back with them, 719 00:42:01,492 --> 00:42:04,392 which is very important, you know, and share those stories. 720 00:42:04,392 --> 00:42:06,567 And a lot of 'em said they wanna come back or hang around 721 00:42:06,567 --> 00:42:09,362 and, you know, explore the countryside. 722 00:42:09,362 --> 00:42:12,158 So I mean that's another highlight. Sharing stories. 723 00:42:12,158 --> 00:42:14,436 And I'm listening to crew members 724 00:42:14,436 --> 00:42:16,404 getting taught language by Marie 725 00:42:16,404 --> 00:42:18,889 and you know, Warren and that, and they're all, 726 00:42:18,889 --> 00:42:21,512 they're very inquisitive. 727 00:42:21,512 --> 00:42:23,722 And it's not just tokenism either. 728 00:42:23,722 --> 00:42:25,275 It's genuine. 729 00:42:25,275 --> 00:42:28,278 They wanna learn and listen. So that's another highlight. 730 00:42:28,278 --> 00:42:31,971 Yeah. But like I say, every day is a highlight. 731 00:42:45,606 --> 00:42:47,331 - My name is Warren H. Williams. 732 00:42:47,331 --> 00:42:51,025 I'm a western Arrernte man and I'm also a Waramanga man 733 00:42:53,614 --> 00:42:55,616 from my grandmother's side. 734 00:42:55,616 --> 00:42:57,307 Waramanga is Weston Creek way. 735 00:42:59,620 --> 00:43:01,069 And the character Samuel 736 00:43:04,107 --> 00:43:05,626 is someone that I've known. 737 00:43:06,834 --> 00:43:08,732 He's my father, he's my brother, he's my cousin, 738 00:43:08,732 --> 00:43:10,458 he's my son, he's my, you know. 739 00:43:11,804 --> 00:43:15,221 And, he's that person 740 00:43:15,221 --> 00:43:17,707 that will always be there for you. 741 00:43:17,707 --> 00:43:20,433 You know, that's who Samuel is. 742 00:43:20,433 --> 00:43:22,539 When I think of who Samuel is. 743 00:43:27,337 --> 00:43:29,891 - I thought it was a dry community. 744 00:43:29,891 --> 00:43:31,168 - Oh it is. 745 00:43:33,895 --> 00:43:36,311 - That's not a good look, local copper drinking. 746 00:43:37,968 --> 00:43:40,971 [speaking Arrernte] 747 00:43:42,007 --> 00:43:43,491 - Who else do you drink with? 748 00:43:44,734 --> 00:43:47,909 [answers in Arrernte] 749 00:44:04,685 --> 00:44:07,722 - Well, Samuel is uncle to Toni, 750 00:44:07,722 --> 00:44:12,140 the detective who's come back to Perdar Theendar. 751 00:44:12,140 --> 00:44:14,004 Perdar Theendar is the community 752 00:44:14,004 --> 00:44:19,009 that is where Sam's from and that's where Toni is from. 753 00:44:21,632 --> 00:44:24,359 Samuel is Toni's uncle, 754 00:44:25,464 --> 00:44:28,087 brother to Tony's mother, Viv. 755 00:44:28,950 --> 00:44:32,298 So, and he's a policeman. 756 00:44:32,298 --> 00:44:35,025 Policeman out the community. 757 00:44:35,025 --> 00:44:37,648 So he's both law to white law and blackfella law. 758 00:44:42,515 --> 00:44:46,519 - No, I have to know what Xavier has to say. 759 00:44:46,519 --> 00:44:48,418 - You will, Me and Nick will tell you. 760 00:44:49,971 --> 00:44:51,248 - Eileen's still missing. 761 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:53,388 Why don't you concentrate on finding her? 762 00:44:53,388 --> 00:44:55,114 - This is fine. Remara. 763 00:44:55,114 --> 00:44:56,944 - How do you know if you haven't found her? 764 00:44:56,944 --> 00:44:59,394 - You want me to check on Brendan's alibi or not? 765 00:45:06,056 --> 00:45:08,472 [Toni sighs] 766 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,524 - Again, a lot of people don't realize 767 00:45:25,524 --> 00:45:29,839 that Arrernte is western Arrernte, central Arrernte, 768 00:45:29,839 --> 00:45:33,083 eastern Arrernte. Then there's Amoonguna, which is Northern 769 00:45:33,083 --> 00:45:34,878 and Pmarntwe, which is Southern. 770 00:45:34,878 --> 00:45:38,571 So there's Eastern, Central and Western 771 00:45:38,571 --> 00:45:41,609 and Arrernte spoken and also literature, 772 00:45:41,609 --> 00:45:43,093 bit a literature chucked in there. 773 00:45:43,093 --> 00:45:45,130 And then there's English chucked in there too. So, 774 00:45:46,579 --> 00:45:49,306 but it's so good to have all them languages spoken 775 00:45:51,343 --> 00:45:53,345 and it is so 776 00:45:53,345 --> 00:45:57,867 so good to have all those languages spoken, 777 00:45:57,867 --> 00:45:58,729 you know, 778 00:45:58,729 --> 00:46:00,628 at the same place. 779 00:46:00,628 --> 00:46:02,250 Yeah, it's so good at same time. 780 00:46:07,531 --> 00:46:08,360 - Eileen. 781 00:46:11,397 --> 00:46:14,504 [Speaking Arrernte] 782 00:46:30,451 --> 00:46:31,693 - Is there a reason 783 00:46:31,693 --> 00:46:33,626 you're not painting for Isabelle anymore? 784 00:46:42,601 --> 00:46:44,810 Do you know what happened to that marla gou? 785 00:46:49,228 --> 00:46:52,231 [speaking Arrernte] 786 00:47:00,343 --> 00:47:02,172 - I wish I could help. 787 00:47:06,314 --> 00:47:08,730 [Toni sighs] 788 00:47:18,326 --> 00:47:20,915 - My best highlight would be, 789 00:47:22,399 --> 00:47:25,368 I remember when we were at the production, first production, 790 00:47:25,368 --> 00:47:27,025 the big one, in the office. 791 00:47:27,025 --> 00:47:31,374 And I was sitting next to Steve and Erica was next to me and 792 00:47:33,376 --> 00:47:35,205 after the meeting was finished, 793 00:47:36,379 --> 00:47:39,589 Erica came and showed me a piece of paper, 794 00:47:42,523 --> 00:47:43,765 and she showed me what it was 795 00:47:43,765 --> 00:47:47,700 and what the note said was, "I want to be Sam." 796 00:47:47,700 --> 00:47:52,705 I wrote that at a workshop and gave it to Steve. 797 00:47:54,121 --> 00:47:57,814 I think Erica saw that, and she kept it. She kept it. 798 00:47:57,814 --> 00:48:01,680 And it is so funny that that's my highlight. 799 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,097 And I got a photo taken with it saying "I want to be Sam." 800 00:48:07,720 --> 00:48:10,827 [speaking Arrernte] 801 00:48:11,966 --> 00:48:13,795 - I went to pick her up, but she's not at home. 802 00:48:13,795 --> 00:48:16,177 Her family don't know where she is. 803 00:48:16,177 --> 00:48:17,627 Well something's wrong. 804 00:48:17,627 --> 00:48:19,422 Eileen wouldn't just not show up. 805 00:48:19,422 --> 00:48:21,217 She really wants to go to Paris. 806 00:48:26,222 --> 00:48:29,811 - There any chance this connected to Jay's death? 807 00:48:29,811 --> 00:48:32,883 [speaking Arrernte] 808 00:49:03,328 --> 00:49:06,262 - My experience with traveling around, seeing. 809 00:49:06,262 --> 00:49:09,403 There's still a lot of people who don't, 810 00:49:10,714 --> 00:49:13,821 Don't realize there's places like, 811 00:49:13,821 --> 00:49:18,619 well Amoonguna, there's a community like this that exists 812 00:49:18,619 --> 00:49:23,175 and people that English is their fifth or sixth language 813 00:49:24,383 --> 00:49:28,560 and people, what we portray on the show 814 00:49:29,906 --> 00:49:32,460 is what happens in a community like this. 815 00:49:32,460 --> 00:49:34,324 You know, it still goes on, you know. 816 00:49:35,946 --> 00:49:37,914 The culture is very, very strong out here. 817 00:49:37,914 --> 00:49:39,847 You know looking at the mountain, right? 818 00:49:39,847 --> 00:49:42,332 The caterpillars, you know, all that. 819 00:49:42,332 --> 00:49:45,128 So we still believe, 820 00:49:45,128 --> 00:49:46,474 This is our belief. 821 00:49:46,474 --> 00:49:47,751 We believe that's our caterpillar. 822 00:49:47,751 --> 00:49:49,546 You know, that's all that. 823 00:49:49,546 --> 00:49:51,376 So we are still, you know, 824 00:49:52,756 --> 00:49:54,620 so it's very, very important for people 825 00:49:54,620 --> 00:49:58,038 that live in Australia, cause it's their country too, 826 00:49:58,038 --> 00:49:59,453 they have to realize 827 00:49:59,453 --> 00:50:03,008 that this is part of the culture of Australia. 828 00:50:23,373 --> 00:50:26,445 [speaking Arrernte] 829 00:50:56,544 --> 00:50:57,787 - What does that achieve? 830 00:50:59,547 --> 00:51:01,860 Is it a good thing that Perdar Theendar is dry? 831 00:51:02,999 --> 00:51:05,967 [speaking Arrernte] 832 00:51:26,126 --> 00:51:27,644 - For me 833 00:51:27,644 --> 00:51:30,751 because my family is part of the three Caterpillar thing 834 00:51:30,751 --> 00:51:33,374 and which is so good, cause most of the people 835 00:51:33,374 --> 00:51:34,858 that live in Amoonguna 836 00:51:34,858 --> 00:51:36,757 is part of the other Caterpillars too. 837 00:51:37,896 --> 00:51:41,348 Which is so good. They all work with me. 838 00:51:41,348 --> 00:51:45,662 let us working because I'm part of their storyline 839 00:51:45,662 --> 00:51:49,252 and which so, so lucky that we got it, you know. 840 00:51:49,252 --> 00:51:51,634 We got the community, you know, 841 00:51:52,738 --> 00:51:54,637 to be and they welcomed us, you know, 842 00:51:54,637 --> 00:51:56,777 and they said, Yeah, if you wanna do it, 843 00:51:56,777 --> 00:51:57,812 Let's do it. Yeah. 844 00:51:58,882 --> 00:52:01,678 [noisy motorbike] 845 00:52:08,754 --> 00:52:11,412 [angry yelling] 846 00:52:12,413 --> 00:52:14,726 - Are you gonna do something? 847 00:52:14,726 --> 00:52:17,729 [speaking Arrernte] 848 00:52:23,183 --> 00:52:26,496 [football players jeer] 849 00:52:28,429 --> 00:52:30,535 [laughs] 850 00:52:32,053 --> 00:52:35,056 [speaking Arrernte] 851 00:52:37,162 --> 00:52:40,234 - [Football Player] Fuck off Brendan. 852 00:52:40,234 --> 00:52:41,511 Get outta here. 853 00:52:57,700 --> 00:52:59,219 - There was one part there 854 00:52:59,219 --> 00:53:01,151 sort of where everyone got scared 855 00:53:01,151 --> 00:53:06,018 that what might not happen or what should be shown. 856 00:53:07,434 --> 00:53:09,090 But it was so amazing that a lot of the community mob said, 857 00:53:09,090 --> 00:53:11,507 Yeah, we want to show some of the stuff 858 00:53:11,507 --> 00:53:16,166 like the sorry business and payback, and you know, 859 00:53:16,166 --> 00:53:18,514 just a little bit. You just see it, but it happens, 860 00:53:18,514 --> 00:53:21,275 you know, cause it happens here in the communities. 861 00:53:21,275 --> 00:53:23,622 You know, that's the good thing about it. 862 00:53:23,622 --> 00:53:27,281 All those things that we, you know, a lot of people go, 863 00:53:27,281 --> 00:53:28,903 Ah, does it really happen? 864 00:53:28,903 --> 00:53:30,250 Yes, it happens. 865 00:53:32,493 --> 00:53:35,013 [eerie music] 866 00:54:41,390 --> 00:54:45,463 I mean like Erica Glynn and Steve McGregor 867 00:54:45,463 --> 00:54:48,673 and well another writer too, Daniel MacLean forgot to say, 868 00:54:48,673 --> 00:54:50,260 you know, 869 00:54:50,260 --> 00:54:52,470 I've known them at Combine 870 00:54:52,470 --> 00:54:55,507 before they were who they are now. 871 00:54:55,507 --> 00:54:56,750 And it, and it's so good. 872 00:54:56,750 --> 00:54:59,684 I mean, I've known you before what you do now. 873 00:54:59,684 --> 00:55:01,064 I mean, like it's, 874 00:55:01,064 --> 00:55:03,066 but it's so good to happen there. 875 00:55:03,066 --> 00:55:05,655 Cause I feel comfortable because I know who they are 876 00:55:07,243 --> 00:55:08,071 and they, 877 00:55:09,832 --> 00:55:13,594 when Steve is directing or Erica is directing, 878 00:55:13,594 --> 00:55:16,356 hang on, I know those people. I've known them before. 879 00:55:16,356 --> 00:55:19,635 So before who they were now and it's so good. 880 00:55:19,635 --> 00:55:22,672 I mean like we got a crew, amazing crew, you know, 881 00:55:22,672 --> 00:55:25,295 they make you feel comfortable to really go.