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♪♪

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Steve:
He snatches your phone,

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and he crying?
Yes, he was crying.

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[ High-pitched
indistinct shouting ]

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[ Laughter ]

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[ Groaning ]

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This done took
a dark turn for me.

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When I'm fishing, I'm happy.

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You know what?
I don't even smoke cigars.

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That'd be too much joy
for me at one time.

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Both of these women
are having a conversation.

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You do know the building
is on fire right now?

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I do know the building
is on fire.

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[ Laughter ]

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Hey, it's a big world out there,

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and it's filled with people
that just don't see eye to eye.

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See, that's where I come in.

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See, I ain't got a law degree,

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and I'm way too fly
to wear a robe.

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But this is where common sense
presides -- in
my
house.

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Court is now in session.

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[ Chuckles ]

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-- Captions by VITAC --

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All rise for the
Honorable Judge Steve Harvey!

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[ Cheers and applause ]

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♪♪

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Okay, so,
let's get started.

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This is the case

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of Naadira Muhammad
vs. Faatin Muhammad.

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Naadira is suing
her sister Faatin

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for $10,000
in emotional distress

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after using her identity
on a dating app.

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Faatin insists she's not paying
and it's no big deal.

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Okay, uh, let's start with you,
Naadira.

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You have 30 seconds
to state your case.

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I am here to today because I am
suing my sister for $10,000

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for emotional distress.

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She was using dating apps with
my name and my picture on it,

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and it ruined
my relationship.

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So, I know the $10,000 will not
bring my relationship back,

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but it would be a start.

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[ Spectators murmur ]

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Okay. Faatin,
you have 30 seconds to respond.

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Well, Your Honor,
I am here, obviously,

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because my sister is blaming me
for her failed relationship.

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But I'm here to prove today
that I don't owe her anything.

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I'm not the reason
that her relationship ended.

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And, you know,
we're sisters, right?

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But obviously, money
is thicker than blood, so...

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[ Spectators murmur ]

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Mm. So, Naadira,
you all are sisters.

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Are you all twins?

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No.

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I am 20, and she's 25.

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Wow. Y'all look just alike.

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Okay, so what -- what --

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How would you all describe
your relationship?

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Before this, it was amazing.
We was very close.

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We're the closest out
of all of our siblings.

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We were very close
to the point where

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she had my passwords
to everything --

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my email, my social media,
my phone.

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How would you describe
the relationship, Faatin?

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Your Honor, pretty much
the same as what she said.

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We've always been close,
you know, before all of this.

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How many siblings altogether?

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Eight now.
[ Spectators murmur ]

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Eight now?
Yes.

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Been --
Been a new addition?

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Yes.
Yeah, new addition.
Oh. Okay.

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[ Chuckles ]

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Were you a little
surprised by that?

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Well, my dad is 59
with a newborn, so...

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That ain't
none of my business.

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That's probably...

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[ Laughter ]

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[ Applause ]

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[ Cheers and applause ]

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So, Naadira, why you suing
your sister for $10K?

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What happened?

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Well, back in April,
me and my boyfriend

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was going through
a rough patch,

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and I ended up going
to Illinois to take a job.

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And I didn't think that
we were gonna get back together.

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So, of course,
I did download a dating app,

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but I never created
an account.

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I was looking forward
to moving on

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until we decided
to work through it

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because it's not the first time
that we broke up

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and went
to different states.

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So he was like,
"Well, let's try again.

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Let's see if it works."

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So you all
broken up before?

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Yes, we have.
We both have departed.
Oh. About how many times?

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[ Breathes sharply ]

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But you're only 20.

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Yeah, in the
3- or 4-year range,

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I'd say a good five times.

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So what caused this breakup?
Insecurities.

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Insecurities.
On his behalf.

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Same old thing?
Yes.

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Why do you think that is?

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All my friends are guys,
so that's another --

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That was one of
the major insecurities for him.

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All your --
All your friends are guys?
Yes.

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All my friends are --
are guys.

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[ Laughter ]

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What's your opinion,
Faatin, of all this?

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Your Honor, I believe that,
you know, his insecurities

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was just because
he was doing it, right?

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He's accusing her of things
that he's doing.

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So it's always
just making excuses.
[ Applause ]

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So, now, tell me
how y'all get back together.

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After we talked, he wanted me
to come to Ohio with him,

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and I came.

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And we were doing good
for a couple of weeks.

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And then, one day,
he just asked to see my phone,

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and I gave it to him because
I didn't have anything to hide.

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So I just handed him the phone,
and he went through it,

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and he seen the dating app.
[ Spectators groan ]

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So he took the phone
as soon as it logged in

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and took off running
with it.

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And then,
about 15 minutes later,

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he come back in the house.

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He's screaming and crying
and telling me

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how he couldn't believe
that I was going on dates

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and talking to other guys.

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He was crying?

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Yes, he was crying.

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[ Laughter ]

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Does he show you
what he sees on this phone?

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No, he didn't show me
anything.

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When did you discover
that there was the profile

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of you on the dating app?

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Was it days later,
weeks later, months later?

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It was day--
It was days later...

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Okay, so how'd
you discover it then?
...when I finally
had went through it.

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Because I actually went back
on the app

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to see what was --
what was on there.
Mm-hmm.

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Like, what did he see?

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So I went through scrolling,
and I was just like...

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Yeah, I seen --
Well, now,
let me ask you a question, now.

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If he snatches your phone,
runs with it...

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[ Laughter ]
Yeah, he ran
out the house.

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He come back in, he crying.

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"You seeing other people.
How could you?"

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[ Imitates crying ]

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[ Indistinct shouting ]

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[ Laughter ]

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"Come to Ohio,
and you were with me."

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And then...

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[ High-pitched
indistinct shouting ]

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[ Laughter and applause ]

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[ Imitating crying ]

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[ Groaning ]

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[ Laughter ]

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Right after that...

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[ Laughter ]

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...you didn't think...

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"Let me see..."

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[ Laughter ]

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"...why he trippin'"?

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No.

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You didn't think that?
No.

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I didn't really care
about that.

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I was trying to get to him,
trying to figure out...

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Crazy about a man.
...what's going on with him.

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And then, when things
calmed down days later,

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that's when I went
and looked

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to see what was
on there myself.

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Okay, so did you submit to the
court what was on your phone?

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Uh, yes.

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Okay, could we see it, please?
I've got some evidence.

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Oh, this is what
the profile is?

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Yes, that was the profile.
Okay.

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"I am 5'6" and I'm stuck up."

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[ Laughter ]

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You've got to let them know.

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"Come over here
if you want to,

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but I'm letting you know
I'm full of myself."

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[ Laughter ]

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[ Laughs ]
I ain't mad at you.

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How did you feel seeing this,

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knowing that
you didn't create it?

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I was very, very upset,
and I was heartbroken,

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and I didn't know how to explain
to him that it wasn't me

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because it's literally
right there in his face.

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Yeah.

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So do you eventually
call your sister?

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Yes, I definitely
called her.
Because you -- you got --
y'all talk about everything?

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Yes.
So, now, let me go to you.

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You get a phone call.
What was the phone call about?

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She was, like, crying and,
like, could barely talk.

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And when she finally calmed
down, she's just, like,

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"Me and my boyfriend
went through my phone.

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He saw this dating app."

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Did she ask you
about the app?

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No, I don't think
she even thought that

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I would have been the one
to do it -- she --

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So did you admit
to doing this,

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or you --
did you deny doing it?

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I'm pretty sure, at one point
in time, she had to say,

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"How could something
like this happen?"

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Yes.
Yes.

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And what did you say?

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It's her shoulder to cry on.
I didn't --

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I didn't tell her it was me,
Your Honor.

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[ Spectators murmur ]

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No admission?

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♪♪

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I'm pretty sure, at one point
in time, she had to say,

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"How could something
like this happen?"

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Yes.
Yes.

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And what did you say?

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It's her shoulder to cry on.
I didn't --

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I didn't tell her it was me,
Your Honor.

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[ Spectators murmur ]

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No admission?

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[ Spectators murmur ]

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At the time, she just was
listening to me cry

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and,
"Oh, it's gonna be okay.

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And y'all are gonna get
through it again."

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And then,
she called me one day --

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we was just talking,
and she was like,

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"Well, yeah, I do have
something to tell you.

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It was me
that made the dating app."

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And when she said that,
I just got quiet.

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It's like heat just come
running through my body.

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Your Honor.

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So, did you dig further
into the app?

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I seen a few different
conversations.

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I seen a few
different hook-ups.
Did you have any of them
you brought to the court?

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Um, I th-- Yes, sir.

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Okay, let's see these.

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So, who is N?

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N is you?
Yeah.

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Supposed to be you?
Supposed to be.

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ú"Heyy."

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Then JD -- "Hey beautiful."

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Then N -- "You look good."

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"Thank u.

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U look good as well."

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"Thank you."

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"How are you?"

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"I'm good. How are you?"

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"I'm well."

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What the kinda hell -- What?

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[ Laughter ]

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Your Honor.

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It's --

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Wait a minute.

252
00:08:46,092 --> 00:08:47,894
This a lot of small talk.

253
00:08:47,894 --> 00:08:49,329
We -- Nine lines!

254
00:08:49,329 --> 00:08:51,831
Ain't nobody said a damn thing.

255
00:08:51,831 --> 00:08:53,033
[ Laughter ]

256
00:08:53,033 --> 00:08:54,200
Your Honor.

257
00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,070
So this is you typing?
Yes, Your Honor.

258
00:08:57,070 --> 00:08:58,972
So, y'all look just alike.

259
00:08:58,972 --> 00:09:00,907
Why would you use
her picture?

260
00:09:00,907 --> 00:09:02,342
I had a boyfriend
at the time,

261
00:09:02,342 --> 00:09:04,978
and he did cheat before.
[ Spectators murmur ]

262
00:09:04,978 --> 00:09:06,112
My boyfriend.

263
00:09:06,112 --> 00:09:08,181
And, to me, you know,
that was my way

264
00:09:08,181 --> 00:09:11,818
of getting my get-back
without being caught.

265
00:09:11,818 --> 00:09:12,385
Now, when you --

266
00:09:12,385 --> 00:09:15,021
If you ever see it,
you can't prove it's me.

267
00:09:15,021 --> 00:09:16,890
It's my sister's name.
You better go -- Girl.

268
00:09:16,890 --> 00:09:18,091
You better --

269
00:09:18,091 --> 00:09:20,226
This was real crafty
right here.

270
00:09:20,226 --> 00:09:22,595
[ Laughter
and scattered applause ]

271
00:09:23,229 --> 00:09:24,597
There's a saying that says,

272
00:09:24,597 --> 00:09:27,901
"Two wrongs
don't make a right."
Don't make a right.

273
00:09:27,901 --> 00:09:28,902
It's just a saying.

274
00:09:28,902 --> 00:09:31,037
Now, do I understand
your point?

275
00:09:31,037 --> 00:09:32,372
Yes, I do.

276
00:09:32,372 --> 00:09:35,442
So, now, let me
go over to you, Naadira.

277
00:09:35,442 --> 00:09:38,344
How's this affected
you all's relationship?

278
00:09:38,344 --> 00:09:41,147
It has not been the same
'cause I can't trust her.

279
00:09:41,147 --> 00:09:43,383
I understand,
you know, what happened,

280
00:09:43,383 --> 00:09:46,853
but you can't blame me
for your relationship ending.

281
00:09:46,853 --> 00:09:48,621
[ Spectators murmur ]

282
00:09:50,023 --> 00:09:51,891
Ahh.

283
00:09:51,891 --> 00:09:53,259
Ladies.
[ Clicks tongue ]

284
00:09:53,259 --> 00:09:54,527
What I'm about to say to you

285
00:09:54,527 --> 00:09:58,565
is because I'm an expert
at what I'm about to say,

286
00:09:58,565 --> 00:10:02,469
because I think what would serve
both of you very well

287
00:10:02,469 --> 00:10:05,271
is to hear from
a male point of view

288
00:10:05,271 --> 00:10:08,074
what has happened
to both of you.

289
00:10:08,074 --> 00:10:11,277
Number one,
your picker is off.

290
00:10:11,277 --> 00:10:16,116
You are two very, very smart,
articulate,

291
00:10:16,116 --> 00:10:18,017
and attractive women.

292
00:10:18,017 --> 00:10:20,053
[ Applause ]

293
00:10:23,323 --> 00:10:25,925
You know, normally, you gotta...
[Speaking gibberish]

294
00:10:25,925 --> 00:10:27,260
There was none of that.

295
00:10:27,260 --> 00:10:30,363
You're very poised
and polished and prim,

296
00:10:30,363 --> 00:10:33,967
but you don't pick poised,
primmed, and polished people.

297
00:10:33,967 --> 00:10:35,201
[ Spectators murmur ]

298
00:10:35,201 --> 00:10:37,437
Woman: Yes.
[ Applause ]

299
00:10:37,437 --> 00:10:41,074
You're not picking up
to the level that you're on.

300
00:10:41,074 --> 00:10:42,175
Mm-hmm.

301
00:10:42,175 --> 00:10:44,177
These on/off again
relationships

302
00:10:44,177 --> 00:10:46,045
you keep involving
yourselves in --

303
00:10:46,045 --> 00:10:48,181
Men don't do off.

304
00:10:48,181 --> 00:10:51,050
If we off wit' you,
we on with somebody else.

305
00:10:51,050 --> 00:10:52,352
Mm.
[ Applause ]

306
00:10:52,352 --> 00:10:55,054
Please know this.

307
00:10:55,054 --> 00:10:57,891
And, so, the mess continues.

308
00:10:57,891 --> 00:10:58,925
You are valuable.

309
00:10:58,925 --> 00:10:59,459
[ Applause ]

310
00:10:59,459 --> 00:11:02,996
But you have to act like it.

311
00:11:04,063 --> 00:11:06,499
You know, the sad part
about this is

312
00:11:06,499 --> 00:11:10,370
y'all's closeness
has been diminished.

313
00:11:10,370 --> 00:11:12,038
First of all,
to the defendant --

314
00:11:12,038 --> 00:11:13,973
you're dead wrong
for what you did.

315
00:11:13,973 --> 00:11:15,975
[ Applause ]

316
00:11:17,410 --> 00:11:19,512
You were wrong on
so many levels.

317
00:11:19,512 --> 00:11:22,115
And I know you
feel badly about it

318
00:11:22,115 --> 00:11:24,450
because it caused her pain.

319
00:11:24,450 --> 00:11:26,252
Let me ask you something,
Naadira.

320
00:11:26,252 --> 00:11:28,454
If you would say something
to your sister,

321
00:11:28,454 --> 00:11:30,089
what would you say to her?

322
00:11:30,089 --> 00:11:31,357
Um, I miss
our relationship,

323
00:11:31,357 --> 00:11:33,960
and I hope one day that
we can build our trust back.

324
00:11:35,161 --> 00:11:37,197
You miss the relationship?
Yes.

325
00:11:37,197 --> 00:11:38,231
How so?

326
00:11:38,231 --> 00:11:40,200
Um, she was
my best friend.

327
00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,069
Faatin, what would you say
to your sister?

328
00:11:44,270 --> 00:11:49,175
First of all, I didn't
intentionally, you know,

329
00:11:49,175 --> 00:11:50,276
try to hurt you.

330
00:11:50,276 --> 00:11:51,644
So I apologize for that.

331
00:11:51,644 --> 00:11:54,314
But I feel like she's
suing the wrong people.

332
00:11:54,314 --> 00:11:55,582
Why is she not suing
our parents

333
00:11:55,582 --> 00:11:57,250
for making us look alike,
Your Honor?

334
00:11:57,250 --> 00:11:58,952
Like...

335
00:11:58,952 --> 00:12:00,386
[ Laughter ]

336
00:12:00,386 --> 00:12:02,956
[ Spectators murmur ]

337
00:12:06,092 --> 00:12:08,194
I-I can't believe
you said that.

338
00:12:08,194 --> 00:12:09,362
[ Laughter and applause ]

339
00:12:09,362 --> 00:12:11,664
A-And you know what?
And -- And -- And -- And --

340
00:12:11,664 --> 00:12:13,700
I can't believe she brought me
here to sue me, Your Honor.

341
00:12:13,700 --> 00:12:16,369
Yeah, I know. I can't believe
y'all in here, either.

342
00:12:16,369 --> 00:12:17,704
But I can't believe
you said that.

343
00:12:17,704 --> 00:12:21,107
I'll give you a chance 'cause
I knew this was gonna go bad

344
00:12:21,107 --> 00:12:22,976
when you apologized
and said, "But".

345
00:12:22,976 --> 00:12:23,643
-"But."
-"But."

346
00:12:23,643 --> 00:12:27,046
"But" erases everything
said prior to that.

347
00:12:27,046 --> 00:12:28,281
[ Applause ]

348
00:12:28,281 --> 00:12:33,386
"I'm sorry. I didn't mean
to hurt you, but..."

349
00:12:33,386 --> 00:12:36,422
An apology has to come
from a place of sincerity.

350
00:12:36,422 --> 00:12:37,991
Man: Absolutely.

351
00:12:37,991 --> 00:12:39,525
I love her. I do.

352
00:12:39,525 --> 00:12:41,294
I do miss
our relationship.

353
00:12:41,294 --> 00:12:43,229
I do
genuinely apologize.

354
00:12:43,229 --> 00:12:45,898
I did, however,
make a mistake.

355
00:12:45,898 --> 00:12:47,033
So...

356
00:12:47,033 --> 00:12:48,368
I've reached a verdict.

357
00:12:48,368 --> 00:12:50,903
[ Cheers and applause ]

358
00:12:55,275 --> 00:13:00,680
Your suit for $10,000
is for emotional distress.

359
00:13:00,680 --> 00:13:05,285
I believe that, that you have
had emotional distress.

360
00:13:05,285 --> 00:13:08,688
But I think the relationship
was rocky, anyway.

361
00:13:08,688 --> 00:13:11,557
I think every time he goes off
and he gets another girl

362
00:13:11,557 --> 00:13:14,394
and he finds out you was better
than the one he had,

363
00:13:14,394 --> 00:13:15,561
then he come running back,

364
00:13:15,561 --> 00:13:18,498
and he is going to
forever be insecure.

365
00:13:18,498 --> 00:13:21,200
Now, as wrong as she was,

366
00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,503
I have to just get you
to understand

367
00:13:23,503 --> 00:13:25,772
the words that I said to you

368
00:13:25,772 --> 00:13:30,009
and take that as the valuable
lesson that you learn today.

369
00:13:30,476 --> 00:13:33,212
If everybody in this court
was paid

370
00:13:33,212 --> 00:13:36,115
for every time
they were stressed out,

371
00:13:36,115 --> 00:13:38,217
we'd all be rich.

372
00:13:38,217 --> 00:13:40,253
[ Applause ]

373
00:13:43,122 --> 00:13:45,658
I want both of my ex-wives

374
00:13:45,658 --> 00:13:49,295
to pay me for all the distress
I've been in.

375
00:13:49,295 --> 00:13:50,396
[ Laughter ]

376
00:13:50,396 --> 00:13:52,565
I want
my seven damn children

377
00:13:52,565 --> 00:13:55,668
to give me all the money back
that I've given them

378
00:13:55,668 --> 00:13:58,404
and the times
they've stressed me out.

379
00:13:58,404 --> 00:14:00,406
[ Laughter ]

380
00:14:00,406 --> 00:14:02,308
How many in here
have been stressed out?

381
00:14:02,308 --> 00:14:03,409
[ Spectators cheer ]

382
00:14:03,409 --> 00:14:05,378
How many y'all wanna be paid
for distress?

383
00:14:05,378 --> 00:14:07,880
[ Spectators cheer ]

384
00:14:08,648 --> 00:14:11,651
I think you gonna have to be
a little bit more forgiving.

385
00:14:11,651 --> 00:14:14,654
I think you gonna have to
be a little bit more remorseful.

386
00:14:14,654 --> 00:14:17,557
I think you all need to find
your way back to each other,

387
00:14:17,557 --> 00:14:20,460
because when all these men
come and go,

388
00:14:20,460 --> 00:14:22,428
y'all still gonna be sisters.

389
00:14:22,428 --> 00:14:24,664
[ Applause ]

390
00:14:24,664 --> 00:14:29,168
Your suit for $10,000
for emotional distress

391
00:14:29,168 --> 00:14:30,236
has been dismissed.

392
00:14:30,236 --> 00:14:31,537
That's my verdict.

393
00:14:31,537 --> 00:14:33,272
And that's the way I see it.

394
00:14:33,272 --> 00:14:34,374
[ Cheers and applause ]

395
00:14:34,374 --> 00:14:41,481
♪♪

396
00:14:41,481 --> 00:14:43,416
I didn't catch anything
that was great.

397
00:14:43,416 --> 00:14:45,585
Megan just doesn't have
the time on the water.

398
00:14:45,585 --> 00:14:47,387
That ain't even a fish no mo'.

399
00:14:47,387 --> 00:14:49,322
He's got a dolphin in his hand.

400
00:14:49,322 --> 00:14:52,024
[ Laughter ]

401
00:14:54,327 --> 00:14:56,295
[ Cheers and applause ]

402
00:14:56,295 --> 00:14:58,197
All right.
Let's get started.

403
00:14:58,431 --> 00:14:59,665
This is the case

404
00:14:59,665 --> 00:15:02,502
of Megan Houston
vs. Ronnie "Cap'N Ron" Kelley

405
00:15:02,502 --> 00:15:06,672
Megan is suing Cap'N Ron,
a fishing guide, for $1,950,

406
00:15:06,672 --> 00:15:08,908
claiming it was his fault
she didn't hook the big one.

407
00:15:08,908 --> 00:15:12,812
Cap'N Ron is countersuing
customer Megan for $5,400

408
00:15:12,812 --> 00:15:16,916
in lost business after
she posted negative reviews.

409
00:15:17,216 --> 00:15:18,484
Let's start with you, Megan.

410
00:15:18,484 --> 00:15:20,453
You have 30 seconds
to state your case.

411
00:15:20,453 --> 00:15:21,654
Mr. Harvey,
I am here to sue

412
00:15:21,654 --> 00:15:24,157
my ex-bass guide,
Cap'N Ron,

413
00:15:24,157 --> 00:15:25,625
for $1,950,

414
00:15:25,625 --> 00:15:28,795
which is the cost of three
guided trips, gas fee, and tip.

415
00:15:28,795 --> 00:15:31,597
I'd hired him with hopes
and anticipation

416
00:15:31,597 --> 00:15:33,733
that I was going to not
only catch a bunch of bass,

417
00:15:33,733 --> 00:15:35,368
but I was gonna
catch big bass,

418
00:15:35,368 --> 00:15:36,702
and I was going
for my personal best.

419
00:15:36,702 --> 00:15:39,172
And that didn't happen
on any of the trips.

420
00:15:39,172 --> 00:15:40,306
[ Spectators groan ]

421
00:15:40,306 --> 00:15:41,641
Well, Cap'N Ron,
it's your turn.

422
00:15:41,641 --> 00:15:43,643
You've got 30 seconds
to respond.

423
00:15:43,643 --> 00:15:45,445
Your Honor, unfortunately,
I'm -- I'm being sued.

424
00:15:45,445 --> 00:15:46,546
So that's why
I'm here today.

425
00:15:46,546 --> 00:15:48,481
And I think probably
this is the first time

426
00:15:48,481 --> 00:15:49,582
this has ever happened

427
00:15:49,582 --> 00:15:52,718
in the entire
bass-fishing history.

428
00:15:52,718 --> 00:15:55,788
Unfortunately, I'm having
to countersue for $5,400

429
00:15:55,788 --> 00:16:00,393
due to lost wages from
a negative post on social media

430
00:16:00,393 --> 00:16:01,661
that drew attention
to my business

431
00:16:01,661 --> 00:16:04,430
in an extremely negative
manner.

432
00:16:04,430 --> 00:16:05,531
[ Spectators murmur ]

433
00:16:05,531 --> 00:16:06,599
Wow.

434
00:16:06,599 --> 00:16:08,768
Well, let me say
before we get started,

435
00:16:08,768 --> 00:16:10,570
this is gonna be good
for me...

436
00:16:10,570 --> 00:16:11,704
[ Laughter ]

437
00:16:11,704 --> 00:16:14,340
...'cause I'm a big bass man.

438
00:16:14,340 --> 00:16:16,175
I do three things --

439
00:16:16,175 --> 00:16:17,276
I bass fish...

440
00:16:17,276 --> 00:16:18,444
I play golf...

441
00:16:18,444 --> 00:16:20,413
and I smoke cigars.

442
00:16:20,413 --> 00:16:22,281
[ Laughter ]

443
00:16:22,281 --> 00:16:25,218
[ Cheers and applause ]

444
00:16:25,218 --> 00:16:26,486
[ Chuckles ] Ooh!

445
00:16:26,486 --> 00:16:27,787
There's...

446
00:16:27,787 --> 00:16:30,523
Yeah, I done caught some hogs
in my day.

447
00:16:30,523 --> 00:16:31,657
[ Chuckles ]
Great sport.

448
00:16:31,657 --> 00:16:33,326
Anyway,
let's go to you, Megan.

449
00:16:33,326 --> 00:16:34,660
Tell me about this --

450
00:16:34,660 --> 00:16:36,562
How you hired Cap'N Ron.

451
00:16:36,562 --> 00:16:38,664
So, I found
Cap'N Ron on Instagram.

452
00:16:38,664 --> 00:16:40,833
He posts lots of pictures
of big bass

453
00:16:40,833 --> 00:16:43,569
that he's holding,
as well as his clients.
Where are you from, by the way?

454
00:16:43,569 --> 00:16:45,605
I'm from Fort Worth, Texas.
Oh, okay.

455
00:16:45,605 --> 00:16:50,476
So, I finally reached out
and decided to book a trip.

456
00:16:50,476 --> 00:16:52,478
We're fishing.
He's the guide.

457
00:16:52,478 --> 00:16:55,281
He's fishing
just as much as I am.

458
00:16:55,281 --> 00:16:56,349
He caught multiple fish

459
00:16:56,349 --> 00:16:58,484
that would have beat
my -- my PB,

460
00:16:58,484 --> 00:16:59,986
which is the --
pretty much only reason why

461
00:16:59,986 --> 00:17:01,654
I booked the trip with him.
Your PB? Your personal best?

462
00:17:01,654 --> 00:17:03,923
What's your personal best?
5 pounds, 12 ounces.

463
00:17:03,923 --> 00:17:06,459
Whoo!
So, yes,
I'm trying to beat my PB

464
00:17:06,459 --> 00:17:08,361
every time I go out
and go fishing.

465
00:17:08,361 --> 00:17:10,696
But we fishing, though?
Yes.

466
00:17:10,696 --> 00:17:13,366
There is no guarantee.

467
00:17:13,366 --> 00:17:14,033
There's no guarantee.

468
00:17:14,033 --> 00:17:18,170
But when you hire a guide,
you want to get put on big fish.

469
00:17:18,170 --> 00:17:18,838
Correct.

470
00:17:18,838 --> 00:17:22,475
Okay, let me bounce over
to Cap'N Ron.

471
00:17:22,475 --> 00:17:23,776
Ron, tell --
tell me a little bit

472
00:17:23,776 --> 00:17:25,578
about you all's relationship.

473
00:17:25,578 --> 00:17:26,679
So, Megan's correct.

474
00:17:26,679 --> 00:17:28,648
I've got a decent
social media following,

475
00:17:28,648 --> 00:17:31,751
and I advertise most of
my business on social media.

476
00:17:31,751 --> 00:17:33,553
And I do have
a lot of pictures

477
00:17:33,553 --> 00:17:36,422
of me and customers
catching big fish.

478
00:17:36,422 --> 00:17:37,557
And I do catch
a lot of big fish.

479
00:17:37,557 --> 00:17:38,925
I fish
about 300 days a year.

480
00:17:38,925 --> 00:17:42,562
So it'd probably make
a little bit of common sense

481
00:17:42,562 --> 00:17:43,796
that I'm probably gonna be

482
00:17:43,796 --> 00:17:45,698
a little bit
more skilled than her.

483
00:17:45,698 --> 00:17:46,832
And, so, we get to
Lake Palestine.

484
00:17:46,832 --> 00:17:48,734
I meet Megan at the boat ramp.
We launch.

485
00:17:48,734 --> 00:17:50,703
We take off up the river,
and we start fishing.

486
00:17:50,703 --> 00:17:53,439
Now, fortunately,
we had a really good area.

487
00:17:53,439 --> 00:17:54,874
We caught fish early.

488
00:17:54,874 --> 00:17:58,844
I didn't catch anything
that was great or memorable.

489
00:17:58,844 --> 00:18:00,980
There is a picture of me
holding a fish

490
00:18:00,980 --> 00:18:02,949
that's about the size --
average size of fish

491
00:18:02,949 --> 00:18:04,884
that I was catching
throughout the whole day.

492
00:18:04,884 --> 00:18:07,553
And if you compare that to
the picture of Cap'N Ron's fish,

493
00:18:07,553 --> 00:18:10,189
you'll see what I mean
in the difference of size.

494
00:18:11,624 --> 00:18:14,293
[ Laughter ]

495
00:18:14,293 --> 00:18:15,528
So...

496
00:18:15,528 --> 00:18:18,531
Now, hold on.

497
00:18:18,531 --> 00:18:19,699
Now, I've just got to
tell you,

498
00:18:19,699 --> 00:18:23,669
Miss Megan is holding
the fish wrong for photos.

499
00:18:23,669 --> 00:18:25,838
These fish appear bigger

500
00:18:25,838 --> 00:18:27,673
if you hold them
in front of you.

501
00:18:27,673 --> 00:18:30,509
Woman: Right.
That ain't even a fish no mo'.

502
00:18:30,509 --> 00:18:32,411
He's got a dolphin in his hand.

503
00:18:32,411 --> 00:18:33,913
[ Laughter ]

504
00:18:33,913 --> 00:18:35,815
Saw that picture of me
when I was up there,

505
00:18:35,815 --> 00:18:37,416
get that fish out there.

506
00:18:37,416 --> 00:18:38,618
Steve, it was so small,

507
00:18:38,618 --> 00:18:40,620
I felt bad
holding it out so far.

508
00:18:40,620 --> 00:18:44,657
Well, that's about
a 2 1/2-pounder.

509
00:18:44,657 --> 00:18:46,392
Compared to an 8-pounder.

510
00:18:46,392 --> 00:18:46,926
Well, hold on, now.

511
00:18:46,926 --> 00:18:48,995
Let's --
Let's talk about this.

512
00:18:48,995 --> 00:18:52,798
You don't like the fact that
you weren't catching big fish?

513
00:18:52,798 --> 00:18:56,435
Not when I paid the money that
I paid to go catch big fish.

514
00:18:56,435 --> 00:18:57,770
Well, okay, so, now,

515
00:18:57,770 --> 00:18:59,772
what happens
at the end of this first day?

516
00:18:59,772 --> 00:19:02,074
He's catching fish
that you're not.
Yes, sir.

517
00:19:02,074 --> 00:19:05,444
Did you mention to him
you weren't satisfied?

518
00:19:06,278 --> 00:19:06,979
I didn't.

519
00:19:06,979 --> 00:19:09,615
You know,
I-I probably should have.
[ Spectators groan ]

520
00:19:09,615 --> 00:19:11,784
Okay, we -- we -- we got
three trips over here.

521
00:19:11,784 --> 00:19:13,119
What --
What's the next trip?

522
00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,555
He was promoting this --
this special trip that he does

523
00:19:16,555 --> 00:19:17,723
with his clients.

524
00:19:17,723 --> 00:19:19,992
They go and fish a lake
called Choke Canyon.

525
00:19:19,992 --> 00:19:24,630
And he encourages his clients
to go down for more than one day

526
00:19:24,630 --> 00:19:27,099
because it is so far away
from the DFW area,

527
00:19:27,099 --> 00:19:29,802
which is where I would assume
most of his clients come from.

528
00:19:29,802 --> 00:19:32,605
And I will say that whenever
I did go on the first trip

529
00:19:32,605 --> 00:19:34,073
with Cap'N Ron,
I had a great time

530
00:19:34,073 --> 00:19:37,009
in terms of the fact
that he is very entertaining.

531
00:19:37,009 --> 00:19:38,711
I was very disappointed
in the fact

532
00:19:38,711 --> 00:19:40,746
that he didn't guide me
on how to catch the fish

533
00:19:40,746 --> 00:19:41,947
and he was
catching them instead.

534
00:19:41,947 --> 00:19:43,115
And, so, I was like,
"Okay, well,

535
00:19:43,115 --> 00:19:46,552
maybe if I book a two-day trip,
that will increase my odds,"

536
00:19:46,552 --> 00:19:47,787
and that didn't happen
again.

537
00:19:47,787 --> 00:19:49,121
You know,
we're fishing the first day,

538
00:19:49,121 --> 00:19:53,726
and he caught probably a
35-pound bag of fish by himself.

539
00:19:53,726 --> 00:19:55,127
[ Spectators murmur ]
I just wanted to catch one

540
00:19:55,127 --> 00:19:57,663
that was over
5 pounds, 12 ounces.
Well, let me
ask you something.

541
00:19:57,663 --> 00:19:59,732
Did you catch fish?
I did.

542
00:19:59,732 --> 00:20:00,800
How many did you catch?

543
00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,904
Probably caught, um,
15 fish total,

544
00:20:04,904 --> 00:20:06,906
which, to me --
You caught 15 fish?

545
00:20:06,906 --> 00:20:07,973
That's over two days,
though,

546
00:20:07,973 --> 00:20:09,942
when you're fishing
9 hours a day.

547
00:20:09,942 --> 00:20:13,679
When -- When you take a person
on a fishing trip, Cap'N Ron,

548
00:20:13,679 --> 00:20:15,915
what's your obligation
as a guide?

549
00:20:15,915 --> 00:20:19,118
So, as a guide, I have two goals
through the day.

550
00:20:19,118 --> 00:20:22,021
Number one, I want 'em to
forget about all the struggles

551
00:20:22,021 --> 00:20:23,989
and the headaches
that's going on in life.

552
00:20:23,989 --> 00:20:26,592
I also want them to walk away
out of my boat a better angler.

553
00:20:26,592 --> 00:20:28,828
Now, when people
leave my boat,

554
00:20:28,828 --> 00:20:29,929
they've had a good time.

555
00:20:29,929 --> 00:20:31,130
They forgot about work.

556
00:20:31,130 --> 00:20:32,965
They forgot about
their nagging wife

557
00:20:32,965 --> 00:20:34,300
or nagging husband
or nagging boyfriend

558
00:20:34,300 --> 00:20:36,068
or whoever's
nagging them at home.
[ Spectators murmuring ]

559
00:20:36,068 --> 00:20:37,737
Excuse me one second.
They've forgotten them.

560
00:20:37,737 --> 00:20:39,638
Y'all be nagging.
[ Laughter ]

561
00:20:39,638 --> 00:20:41,040
Don't --
Don't get mad at him.

562
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,776
"He said nagging wife.
Oh, my good--" Yes!

563
00:20:43,776 --> 00:20:45,044
Yes.

564
00:20:45,044 --> 00:20:49,014
And sometimes you want to get
away from your nagging husband.

565
00:20:49,014 --> 00:20:51,751
'Cause men are a trip, too.

566
00:20:51,751 --> 00:20:54,720
[ Laughter and applause ]

567
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,957
What do you think
Megan has a problem with?

568
00:20:57,957 --> 00:21:00,192
Here -- Here's part of what
I think the problem is.

569
00:21:00,192 --> 00:21:02,094
She's already told you
she's been fishing three years.

570
00:21:02,094 --> 00:21:04,864
Megan just doesn't have
the time on the water.

571
00:21:04,864 --> 00:21:05,931
Hold on right there.

572
00:21:05,931 --> 00:21:08,768
Tell me what --
what your expectations are

573
00:21:08,768 --> 00:21:10,903
and the problem you're
having here.

574
00:21:10,903 --> 00:21:12,805
My problem is that he was
fishing the whole time.

575
00:21:12,805 --> 00:21:14,840
I feel like he took away
the opportunity for me

576
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,041
to catch big fish.

577
00:21:16,041 --> 00:21:17,743
I've never had
a guide service

578
00:21:17,743 --> 00:21:19,145
that fishes with me.
[ Spectators murmur ]

579
00:21:19,145 --> 00:21:21,580
How many other guides
have you hired?

580
00:21:21,580 --> 00:21:22,214
Or guides?
I've been --

581
00:21:22,214 --> 00:21:25,184
I've been on four other
guided trips outside of his.

582
00:21:25,184 --> 00:21:27,920
And how many people
were on the boat?

583
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,923
One, I had six people,

584
00:21:30,923 --> 00:21:34,193
one, I had two people,
and one I had three people.

585
00:21:34,193 --> 00:21:36,595
What type of boat
were you all on when you went?

586
00:21:36,595 --> 00:21:37,897
A bass boat.
A bass boat.

587
00:21:37,897 --> 00:21:39,999
So now it's just
you and him now?

588
00:21:39,999 --> 00:21:43,002
So that's a little bit different
than the party boat

589
00:21:43,002 --> 00:21:45,571
or the little bit --
than the bank fishing.

590
00:21:45,571 --> 00:21:46,839
You ever kayak fish?

591
00:21:46,839 --> 00:21:48,641
Kayak?

592
00:21:48,641 --> 00:21:49,842
No, Black people
don't do that.

593
00:21:49,842 --> 00:21:52,344
[ Laughter and applause ]

594
00:22:00,853 --> 00:22:03,856
So, now,
you want your money back

595
00:22:03,856 --> 00:22:05,991
because you didn't catch
your personal best?

596
00:22:05,991 --> 00:22:08,794
That, and I don't feel like
I got the knowledge

597
00:22:08,794 --> 00:22:09,929
that I should have gotten

598
00:22:09,929 --> 00:22:12,064
for the amount of money
that I paid for these trips.

599
00:22:12,064 --> 00:22:14,767
So you wanted
to be coached?

600
00:22:14,767 --> 00:22:17,770
Yes. It's a guide.

601
00:22:17,770 --> 00:22:18,938
Are you also a coach, Ron?

602
00:22:18,938 --> 00:22:20,206
Yes, sir.

603
00:22:20,206 --> 00:22:22,875
Okay. Do --
Do you feel an obligation

604
00:22:22,875 --> 00:22:24,810
to teach
while you're fishing?

605
00:22:24,810 --> 00:22:25,878
Absolutely.

606
00:22:25,878 --> 00:22:27,012
I can assure you
she's a better angler

607
00:22:27,012 --> 00:22:28,047
when she got
out of the boat

608
00:22:28,047 --> 00:22:29,081
than she was
when she got in the boat.

609
00:22:29,081 --> 00:22:30,883
Would you say that's true?

610
00:22:30,883 --> 00:22:37,423
♪♪

611
00:22:39,625 --> 00:22:41,227
Are you also a coach, Ron?
Yes, sir.

612
00:22:41,227 --> 00:22:44,129
Do you feel an obligation
to teach while you're fishing?

613
00:22:44,129 --> 00:22:45,764
I can assure you
she's a better angler

614
00:22:45,764 --> 00:22:46,799
when she got
out of the boat

615
00:22:46,799 --> 00:22:47,867
than she was
when she got in the boat.

616
00:22:47,867 --> 00:22:49,802
Would you say that's true?

617
00:22:49,802 --> 00:22:51,804
[ Spectators murmur ]

618
00:22:53,839 --> 00:22:55,674
I would say that's true.

619
00:22:56,976 --> 00:22:58,878
Now, you fish a lot.
How many --

620
00:22:58,878 --> 00:23:00,079
How many days out of the year

621
00:23:00,079 --> 00:23:01,847
would you say you fish,
Miss Megan?

622
00:23:01,847 --> 00:23:05,584
Four to five times a week
in my kayak.

623
00:23:05,584 --> 00:23:07,586
[ Laughter ]

624
00:23:10,856 --> 00:23:12,825
[ Whispering ]
I told her.

625
00:23:12,825 --> 00:23:14,660
She can quit bring up
this kayak.

626
00:23:14,660 --> 00:23:16,095
I have told her.

627
00:23:16,095 --> 00:23:17,897
I don't like canoes.

628
00:23:17,897 --> 00:23:19,064
I don't like nothing.

629
00:23:19,064 --> 00:23:21,901
You have a countersuit
in this case...
I do.

630
00:23:21,901 --> 00:23:23,969
...for $5,400 for loss of --
Yes, sir.

631
00:23:23,969 --> 00:23:24,970
Why?

632
00:23:24,970 --> 00:23:26,038
So, one thing we
haven't brought up

633
00:23:26,038 --> 00:23:27,940
is that both of us have

634
00:23:27,940 --> 00:23:30,109
significant
social-media followings --

635
00:23:30,109 --> 00:23:32,111
hers significantly bigger
than mine.

636
00:23:32,111 --> 00:23:34,013
She's on TikTok
in the 50,000-follower range.

637
00:23:34,013 --> 00:23:35,114
Well, hold on one second.

638
00:23:35,114 --> 00:23:36,982
What are you on TikTok for?
What do you do?

639
00:23:36,982 --> 00:23:38,550
Fishing.

640
00:23:38,550 --> 00:23:39,752
Sort of.

641
00:23:39,752 --> 00:23:41,954
She --
She lip-syncs to...

642
00:23:41,954 --> 00:23:43,989
I don't even know what.
[ Laughter ]

643
00:23:43,989 --> 00:23:46,091
There's really no contribution
to fishing.

644
00:23:46,091 --> 00:23:48,794
My TikTok name is
FishingUnhooked.

645
00:23:48,794 --> 00:23:51,030
Fishing.
It's all about fishing.

646
00:23:51,030 --> 00:23:54,099
And I've put multiple videos
of Cap'N Ron up

647
00:23:54,099 --> 00:23:56,268
that I took when
we were on our trips.

648
00:23:56,268 --> 00:23:59,838
And I think, you know, if you
added all the views up together,

649
00:23:59,838 --> 00:24:01,073
it'd be over
a million views.

650
00:24:01,073 --> 00:24:06,779
So him in his countersuit
of me giving him bad reviews,

651
00:24:06,779 --> 00:24:07,947
that's not true.

652
00:24:07,947 --> 00:24:09,248
Okay,
let's find out about this.

653
00:24:09,248 --> 00:24:11,083
So, talk to me about this,
Ron -- this countersuit.
So, Your Honor,

654
00:24:11,083 --> 00:24:13,419
I actually turned in a video
to the court before we came

655
00:24:13,419 --> 00:24:15,421
that she posted
that got the negative reviews.

656
00:24:15,421 --> 00:24:17,856
And I would love to
have that shared.
Okay. Let's --
Let's hear this.

657
00:24:17,856 --> 00:24:19,558
Let's see this video.

658
00:24:19,959 --> 00:24:22,227
"When you hire a guide
to break your PB" --

659
00:24:22,227 --> 00:24:23,896
which is personal best --

660
00:24:23,896 --> 00:24:25,264
"and catch big fish,

661
00:24:25,264 --> 00:24:28,100
but instead he just
catches them all

662
00:24:28,100 --> 00:24:31,236
and you don't catch
anything over 4 pounds."

663
00:24:31,236 --> 00:24:34,006
[ Spectators murmur ]
This is the post you made...

664
00:24:34,006 --> 00:24:35,874
Tagging me.

665
00:24:35,874 --> 00:24:38,744
...complaining about him
as a guide.

666
00:24:38,744 --> 00:24:39,311
Yes, Your Honor.

667
00:24:39,311 --> 00:24:41,146
Now, how did this affect you,
sir?

668
00:24:41,146 --> 00:24:44,950
So, typically, I average about
12 trips a week, roughly.

669
00:24:44,950 --> 00:24:47,186
Starting in November,
when she posted this,

670
00:24:47,186 --> 00:24:50,823
I was down to about
9 to 10 trips a week.

671
00:24:50,823 --> 00:24:52,224
So something had happened.

672
00:24:52,224 --> 00:24:53,359
I looked
and saw the comments,

673
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,094
and they've --
they've actually got

674
00:24:55,094 --> 00:24:56,161
a picture
of some of the comments.

675
00:24:56,161 --> 00:24:57,296
And -- And that's kind of
the -- the...

676
00:24:57,296 --> 00:24:59,898
All right, let me see
some of the comments.

677
00:25:00,966 --> 00:25:02,101
"I've never ran a boat that

678
00:25:02,101 --> 00:25:04,269
either captain or mate fished...

679
00:25:04,269 --> 00:25:06,805
not a good guide in my opinion."

680
00:25:06,805 --> 00:25:08,207
"Guides shouldn't fish!

681
00:25:08,207 --> 00:25:11,744
They are hired to put you
on fish, not fish."

682
00:25:11,744 --> 00:25:12,277
T said,

683
00:25:12,277 --> 00:25:15,147
"Why Captain Ron
do you like that?!"

684
00:25:15,147 --> 00:25:16,782
[ Laughter ]

685
00:25:16,782 --> 00:25:17,449
T a hater.

686
00:25:17,449 --> 00:25:21,887
U -- "Only met one guide who
fished during a guided trip.

687
00:25:21,887 --> 00:25:23,956
He was known
for letting clients

688
00:25:23,956 --> 00:25:25,824
finance his fishing trips."

689
00:25:25,824 --> 00:25:27,993
[ Spectators groan ]

690
00:25:27,993 --> 00:25:29,995
Was that your intent,
Miss Megan?

691
00:25:29,995 --> 00:25:31,096
[ Clicks tongue ]

692
00:25:31,096 --> 00:25:33,032
I wouldn't say that
it was my intent,

693
00:25:33,032 --> 00:25:35,067
but I'm not mad
at how it turned out.

694
00:25:35,067 --> 00:25:38,003
[ Spectators murmur ]

695
00:25:38,003 --> 00:25:40,172
This done took
a dark turn for me.

696
00:25:40,172 --> 00:25:42,474
I don't really --
When I'm fishing, I'm happy.

697
00:25:42,474 --> 00:25:46,145
I -- You know what? I don't even
smoke cigars when I'm fishing.

698
00:25:46,145 --> 00:25:48,981
That'd be too much joy
for me at one time.

699
00:25:48,981 --> 00:25:50,349
[ Laughter ]
So I'm trying to --

700
00:25:50,349 --> 00:25:53,018
Let me just get this
understanding.

701
00:25:53,018 --> 00:25:55,054
You normally book
12 trips a week.

702
00:25:55,054 --> 00:25:56,388
You're knocked down
to 9, 10,

703
00:25:56,388 --> 00:25:58,157
so how did you
come up with this figure?

704
00:25:58,157 --> 00:25:59,358
So, I looked
at a 28-week period,

705
00:25:59,358 --> 00:26:02,194
and I came up with about
sub two trips per week,

706
00:26:02,194 --> 00:26:03,362
which is 14 trips.

707
00:26:03,362 --> 00:26:06,298
Now, if you do the 350
over 14 trips,

708
00:26:06,298 --> 00:26:08,934
you're right at $5,400.

709
00:26:08,934 --> 00:26:10,035
Okay.

710
00:26:10,035 --> 00:26:12,137
Uh, I've reached a verdict.

711
00:26:12,137 --> 00:26:14,807
[ Cheers and applause ]

712
00:26:17,843 --> 00:26:18,510
You know something, guys?

713
00:26:18,510 --> 00:26:21,380
Hey, I wanted to have a real fun
conversation about fishing

714
00:26:21,380 --> 00:26:24,183
when I heard
that's what your case was about.

715
00:26:24,183 --> 00:26:26,218
And it was about to be fun.

716
00:26:26,218 --> 00:26:27,453
[ Laughter ]

717
00:26:27,453 --> 00:26:30,355
Now I'm sitting up in here
and I gotta judge this mess.

718
00:26:30,355 --> 00:26:33,125
[ Laughter ]
It don't make no sense.

719
00:26:33,125 --> 00:26:38,464
Now, the countersuit
for $5,400.

720
00:26:38,464 --> 00:26:42,301
I really believe that
this man's business was hurt.

721
00:26:42,301 --> 00:26:44,203
The power of social media,

722
00:26:44,203 --> 00:26:47,272
the way you --
both of you explained it,

723
00:26:47,272 --> 00:26:51,276
100% of his business
is from social media,

724
00:26:51,276 --> 00:26:54,279
and you're quite big
on social media.

725
00:26:54,279 --> 00:26:57,316
So here's my verdict.

726
00:26:57,316 --> 00:27:00,219
I rule
in favor of the defendant

727
00:27:00,219 --> 00:27:03,455
for the countersuit for $5,400
in hurt business

728
00:27:03,455 --> 00:27:05,257
'cause I believe
that happened,

729
00:27:05,257 --> 00:27:09,094
but the court will pay it
ourselves and not Miss Megan.

730
00:27:09,094 --> 00:27:11,630
[ Cheers and applause ]
Thank you.

731
00:27:12,998 --> 00:27:14,166
[ Applause and whistling ]

732
00:27:14,166 --> 00:27:17,136
We also have to deal
with something that she said

733
00:27:17,136 --> 00:27:19,304
that kind of makes
a little bit of sense.

734
00:27:19,304 --> 00:27:22,174
His job is to coach.

735
00:27:22,174 --> 00:27:25,144
I think he could have did
a little more coaching for you.

736
00:27:25,144 --> 00:27:27,012
But then I don't know
what else could have did

737
00:27:27,012 --> 00:27:28,313
because you say
you had a great time

738
00:27:28,313 --> 00:27:30,048
and he was very entertaining.

739
00:27:30,048 --> 00:27:32,317
You can't get your money back

740
00:27:32,317 --> 00:27:34,319
because you said
you got everything.

741
00:27:34,319 --> 00:27:36,555
You caught fish
every time you went.

742
00:27:36,555 --> 00:27:38,423
Hell, you know how many days
I sat on that lake

743
00:27:38,423 --> 00:27:40,192
and ain't caught a damn thing?
[ Laughter ]

744
00:27:40,192 --> 00:27:41,627
I done got 'em to the boat --
they got off.

745
00:27:41,627 --> 00:27:43,495
I done brought 'em
to the brink -- they got off.

746
00:27:43,495 --> 00:27:45,531
I done reached in --
they jumped off.

747
00:27:45,531 --> 00:27:47,866
Man, I've been
out on that boat cussing.

748
00:27:47,866 --> 00:27:48,600
Mm-hmm.

749
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:54,239
Because I think there was
some validity to your lawsuit...

750
00:27:54,239 --> 00:27:57,442
I think you ought to at least
get a free fishing trip.

751
00:27:57,442 --> 00:28:00,012
You're not really mad
at this guy.

752
00:28:00,012 --> 00:28:01,013
I'm salty.

753
00:28:01,013 --> 00:28:02,347
You're salty because --

754
00:28:02,347 --> 00:28:04,283
And you're salty, Megan,

755
00:28:04,283 --> 00:28:09,021
because you didn't catch
your personal best.

756
00:28:09,021 --> 00:28:10,289
Correct.
It ain't nothing else.

757
00:28:10,289 --> 00:28:12,157
He did his job.

758
00:28:12,157 --> 00:28:13,258
He's a great guy.

759
00:28:13,258 --> 00:28:15,127
He put you on big fish.

760
00:28:15,127 --> 00:28:17,162
You just ain't had
the skill to catch 'em.

761
00:28:17,162 --> 00:28:18,363
[ Light laughter ]

762
00:28:18,363 --> 00:28:22,201
So here's what the court gonna
do in Judge Harvey's court.

763
00:28:22,201 --> 00:28:27,039
I'm gonna grant you a free trip,
if you'd like to.

764
00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:28,340
And you'd have to post

765
00:28:28,340 --> 00:28:31,143
the wonderful time
that you had with him.

766
00:28:31,143 --> 00:28:33,145
[ Cheers and applause ]

767
00:28:39,251 --> 00:28:40,552
Huh?
Yes, Your Honor.

768
00:28:40,552 --> 00:28:41,587
I will accept that.
That's a deal?

769
00:28:41,587 --> 00:28:43,155
I will accept it.
You accept it?

770
00:28:43,155 --> 00:28:45,357
Hell, man,
give her a big-ass fish

771
00:28:45,357 --> 00:28:47,159
and let her hold it up.

772
00:28:47,159 --> 00:28:48,293
[ Cheers and applause ]

773
00:28:48,293 --> 00:28:51,230
That's all I want to do
is make it right.

774
00:28:51,230 --> 00:28:53,165
That's my verdict.

775
00:28:53,165 --> 00:28:55,000
And that's the way I see it.

776
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,135
[ Cheers and applause ]

777
00:28:57,135 --> 00:29:02,641
♪♪

778
00:29:02,641 --> 00:29:05,410
You would sit on the bed,
and it would fall down.

779
00:29:05,410 --> 00:29:06,678
It's a certain amount
of weight.

780
00:29:06,678 --> 00:29:10,148
You may not want to do that,
overweight lover.

781
00:29:10,148 --> 00:29:13,352
What the hell
is going on in here?

782
00:29:13,352 --> 00:29:16,088
♪♪

783
00:29:19,024 --> 00:29:22,294
♪♪

784
00:29:22,294 --> 00:29:24,796
Okay,
let's get started.

785
00:29:25,063 --> 00:29:25,664
This is the case

786
00:29:25,664 --> 00:29:28,600
of Romona Harrison
vs. Clyde Powell.

787
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,803
Romona is suing her ex, Clyde,
for $2,800

788
00:29:31,803 --> 00:29:35,540
for furniture she says he sold
during their relationship.

789
00:29:35,540 --> 00:29:39,444
Clyde says she's only suing him
because they broke up.

790
00:29:39,444 --> 00:29:41,179
Let's start with you, Romona.

791
00:29:41,179 --> 00:29:43,282
You have 30 seconds
to state your case.

792
00:29:43,282 --> 00:29:44,516
Thank you, Judge.

793
00:29:44,516 --> 00:29:49,187
I'm here today seeking
$2,800 in restitution

794
00:29:49,187 --> 00:29:51,390
because he took my bed,
sold it,

795
00:29:51,390 --> 00:29:54,259
gave my mattress
to his son,

796
00:29:54,259 --> 00:29:56,495
and I got no restitution
for it.

797
00:29:56,495 --> 00:30:00,365
He refused to resolve it,
and...he owes me.

798
00:30:00,365 --> 00:30:03,235
Clyde, it's your turn.
You have 30 seconds to respond.

799
00:30:03,235 --> 00:30:05,304
Judge Harvey,
I'm here today

800
00:30:05,304 --> 00:30:07,339
to hopefully
provide closure...

801
00:30:07,339 --> 00:30:09,274
[ Scoffs ]
...on this relationship.

802
00:30:09,274 --> 00:30:10,509
[ Laughs ]
And...

803
00:30:10,509 --> 00:30:11,677
[ Spectators murmur ]

804
00:30:11,677 --> 00:30:15,414
...to dispute any allegations
of money owed to Romona.

805
00:30:15,414 --> 00:30:18,216
And if anybody's owed,
I'm
the one out of pocket.

806
00:30:18,216 --> 00:30:19,351
[ Spectators murmur ]

807
00:30:19,351 --> 00:30:20,385
Whaaat?

808
00:30:20,385 --> 00:30:21,620
So, let's go to you.

809
00:30:21,620 --> 00:30:23,388
What type of relationship
do you all have?

810
00:30:23,388 --> 00:30:24,556
How'd you all meet?

811
00:30:24,556 --> 00:30:26,425
We met
on BlackPeopleMeet,

812
00:30:26,425 --> 00:30:28,427
and we went out
on a date.

813
00:30:28,427 --> 00:30:30,662
He wasn't my type,
but I thought I'd figure it out

814
00:30:30,662 --> 00:30:32,264
and try to do
something different,

815
00:30:32,264 --> 00:30:33,465
and that's what I did.

816
00:30:33,465 --> 00:30:35,467
I don't know.
It didn't work out for me.

817
00:30:35,467 --> 00:30:37,235
It didn't work out
for me, Judge.

818
00:30:37,235 --> 00:30:38,337
Okay.

819
00:30:38,337 --> 00:30:40,572
How would you describe
you all's meeting, Clyde?

820
00:30:40,572 --> 00:30:42,240
Well, Judge Harvey,
as she said,

821
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,675
I mean, we met
on BlackPeopleMeet.

822
00:30:43,675 --> 00:30:46,611
And this thing didn't start
or end with a happy ending.

823
00:30:46,611 --> 00:30:49,047
And I'm just happy
it ended.

824
00:30:49,047 --> 00:30:50,449
[ Laughter ]

825
00:30:50,449 --> 00:30:53,285
When we first started talking,
I was still in a relationship

826
00:30:53,285 --> 00:30:56,321
with a long-distance
interest.

827
00:30:56,321 --> 00:30:57,422
[ Spectators groan ]

828
00:30:57,422 --> 00:30:58,523
That part.

829
00:30:58,523 --> 00:31:01,193
But, you know, all aspects
of that relationship

830
00:31:01,193 --> 00:31:01,793
wasn't working for me.

831
00:31:01,793 --> 00:31:03,662
So I reached out --
Okay, hold on one second.

832
00:31:03,662 --> 00:31:06,365
Were you aware of this?
Absolutely not.

833
00:31:06,365 --> 00:31:07,466
I would never --
How long was it

834
00:31:07,466 --> 00:31:09,568
before you found out
about this

835
00:31:09,568 --> 00:31:11,503
long-distance relationship?
Probably nine months.

836
00:31:11,503 --> 00:31:13,405
The girl called me
on the phone.

837
00:31:13,405 --> 00:31:16,308
She called me on the phone.
She texted me. [ Chuckles ]

838
00:31:16,308 --> 00:31:18,677
So, now,
both of these women

839
00:31:18,677 --> 00:31:22,280
are now in full knowledge
of one another

840
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,648
and are having
a conversation?

841
00:31:23,648 --> 00:31:26,284
Yes.
This cannot be good, Clyde.

842
00:31:26,284 --> 00:31:27,619
No.
It wasn't good.

843
00:31:27,619 --> 00:31:29,621
There ain't a man in here
think this is good.

844
00:31:29,621 --> 00:31:32,391
No. It wasn't.
Look, all the men
in here like this.

845
00:31:32,391 --> 00:31:34,292
[ Laughter ]

846
00:31:34,292 --> 00:31:36,061
[ Laughs ]
Oh, this...

847
00:31:37,262 --> 00:31:37,896
Ah!

848
00:31:37,896 --> 00:31:42,401
So, now, what happens
because of the conversation?

849
00:31:42,401 --> 00:31:44,636
Well, Clyde was present
in the room

850
00:31:44,636 --> 00:31:46,004
when that woman called me.

851
00:31:46,004 --> 00:31:49,207
And she said that she was
going to be Mrs. Powell.
I was --
I was not --

852
00:31:49,207 --> 00:31:50,409
Let me finish, sir.

853
00:31:50,409 --> 00:31:52,544
She said that she was
gonna be Mrs. Powell

854
00:31:52,544 --> 00:31:54,713
and that she was
the other woman

855
00:31:54,713 --> 00:31:57,516
and that it's a shame
that Clyde couldn't be "honest"

856
00:31:57,516 --> 00:31:59,751
about his loving
relationship with her.

857
00:31:59,751 --> 00:32:01,787
I told her,
"Listen, I'm sorry.

858
00:32:01,787 --> 00:32:03,622
I don't want
to talk to you."
God. Hold up.

859
00:32:03,622 --> 00:32:05,924
Just stop right here.
Just --

860
00:32:06,425 --> 00:32:08,927
[ Laughter ]

861
00:32:11,196 --> 00:32:13,698
[ Laughter continues ]

862
00:32:13,698 --> 00:32:16,101
[ Laughter and applause ]

863
00:32:20,205 --> 00:32:21,673
[ Laughter continues ]

864
00:32:21,673 --> 00:32:23,742
Clyde, while this conversation
is happening,

865
00:32:23,742 --> 00:32:25,710
you do know the building
is on fire right now?

866
00:32:25,710 --> 00:32:27,479
I do know the building
is on fire.

867
00:32:27,479 --> 00:32:28,647
That's correct.
Okay.

868
00:32:28,647 --> 00:32:31,583
So, now, what happened
to your relationship

869
00:32:31,583 --> 00:32:33,518
with Miss Romona?
It ended.

870
00:32:33,518 --> 00:32:35,754
[ Chuckles ]
Yes.

871
00:32:35,754 --> 00:32:37,389
It ended.
It ended.
It ended.

872
00:32:37,389 --> 00:32:38,590
Not that this is the case,

873
00:32:38,590 --> 00:32:40,559
but what happened
with your relationship

874
00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:41,860
with the other woman?
It also ended.

875
00:32:41,860 --> 00:32:43,662
Yeah, that building
was on --
That's right.

876
00:32:43,662 --> 00:32:46,264
Yeah, that's what
I'm talking about.
[ Speaking indistinctly ]

877
00:32:46,264 --> 00:32:47,132
Yeah, Clyde, see, Clyde?

878
00:32:47,132 --> 00:32:49,634
That's all I was just trying
to get that with you, man.
No, it ended.

879
00:32:49,634 --> 00:32:51,403
'Cause trust and believe.

880
00:32:51,403 --> 00:32:52,704
It wasn't a good place,
but it ended.

881
00:32:52,704 --> 00:32:56,174
So, now, let's --
let's move along here now.

882
00:32:56,174 --> 00:32:57,676
You break up?
Yes.

883
00:32:57,676 --> 00:33:00,812
But then am I to assume
y'all got back together?

884
00:33:00,812 --> 00:33:02,314
[ Chuckling ] Absolutely.
Absolutely.

885
00:33:02,314 --> 00:33:03,381
What?
Yes.

886
00:33:03,381 --> 00:33:05,350
Yes.
Come on, Clyde, my man.

887
00:33:05,350 --> 00:33:06,585
All right, boy.

888
00:33:06,585 --> 00:33:08,420
No! [ Laughs ]

889
00:33:08,420 --> 00:33:09,821
My boy.
Yeah.

890
00:33:09,821 --> 00:33:12,657
I like a challenge.
I like a challenge.
You talked her back into it!

891
00:33:12,657 --> 00:33:14,459
He wore me down!

892
00:33:14,459 --> 00:33:15,794
He wore you down?
Yes.
Exactly.

893
00:33:15,794 --> 00:33:17,462
What does that mean?
He was just sweet --

894
00:33:17,462 --> 00:33:19,531
So, Clyde is, um...

895
00:33:19,531 --> 00:33:21,700
Clyde is charming.

896
00:33:21,700 --> 00:33:24,336
So when
we moved in together --

897
00:33:24,336 --> 00:33:25,570
Wait a minute.
We -- We --

898
00:33:25,570 --> 00:33:27,239
I'm --
I'm trying to get there.

899
00:33:27,239 --> 00:33:28,507
Wait.
[ Chuckles ]

900
00:33:28,507 --> 00:33:30,542
[ Laughter ]

901
00:33:30,542 --> 00:33:32,444
Wha-- What --

902
00:33:32,444 --> 00:33:33,678
What the hell?
What happened?

903
00:33:33,678 --> 00:33:36,281
Let me ask y'all something --
did I black out?

904
00:33:36,281 --> 00:33:37,482
-No!
-No!

905
00:33:37,482 --> 00:33:38,850
[ Laughs ]

906
00:33:38,850 --> 00:33:41,553
Oh, we all hearing this
for the first time?
Yes.

907
00:33:41,553 --> 00:33:42,721
Okay, cool.

908
00:33:42,721 --> 00:33:45,524
'Cause I thought --
I said, "Man, you know, Steve,

909
00:33:45,524 --> 00:33:47,859
maybe when you went back there
to the wall..."

910
00:33:47,859 --> 00:33:50,729
She -- She --
So y'all done moved in now?

911
00:33:50,729 --> 00:33:51,730
What? [ Chuckles ]

912
00:33:51,730 --> 00:33:53,698
Boy!
So, my lease was up.

913
00:33:53,698 --> 00:33:56,735
We took all of my stuff --
my bed, my mattress,

914
00:33:56,735 --> 00:33:58,603
all my things,
pots, pans, everything --

915
00:33:58,603 --> 00:34:00,605
and we put all of that
into the storage.

916
00:34:00,605 --> 00:34:01,606
Okay.

917
00:34:01,606 --> 00:34:05,443
And he said,
"Leave your bed here."

918
00:34:05,443 --> 00:34:06,645
I said, "Why?
We got two bedrooms."

919
00:34:06,645 --> 00:34:08,613
He said, "No. Leave it.
We got a bed."

920
00:34:08,613 --> 00:34:10,482
[ Scoffs ]
Okay. So I left
my bed in storage.

921
00:34:10,482 --> 00:34:11,650
Okay, now stop right here.
No.

922
00:34:11,650 --> 00:34:13,818
Clyde?
That --
That never happened.

923
00:34:13,818 --> 00:34:15,687
Oh, my God.
I mean...

924
00:34:15,687 --> 00:34:18,557
Why you lying?
The bed that she's
referring to,

925
00:34:18,557 --> 00:34:21,493
her bed --
that bed frame...
Lying.

926
00:34:21,493 --> 00:34:23,595
...never made it to the --
to storage

927
00:34:23,595 --> 00:34:24,930
or to
the new apartment.
Lying.

928
00:34:24,930 --> 00:34:28,733
That bed broke one night
when we were having sex.

929
00:34:28,733 --> 00:34:31,436
That's not true!

930
00:34:31,436 --> 00:34:33,338
That is not true!

931
00:34:33,338 --> 00:34:35,507
♪♪

932
00:34:38,343 --> 00:34:40,712
That bed broke one night
when we were having sex.

933
00:34:40,712 --> 00:34:43,548
That's not true!

934
00:34:43,548 --> 00:34:45,517
That is not true!

935
00:34:45,517 --> 00:34:48,553
[ Laughter and cheering ]

936
00:34:48,553 --> 00:34:50,488
Yeah.

937
00:34:50,488 --> 00:34:53,725
[ Cheers and applause ]

938
00:34:53,725 --> 00:34:56,461
First off,
that is not true!
Well, that --

939
00:34:56,461 --> 00:34:57,629
Judge Harvey.
It did not break

940
00:34:57,629 --> 00:34:58,797
'cause
we were having sex.

941
00:34:58,797 --> 00:35:01,900
You would sit on the bed,
and it would fall down.

942
00:35:01,900 --> 00:35:03,802
It was a certain
amount of weight.

943
00:35:03,802 --> 00:35:04,936
[ Spectators murmur ]

944
00:35:04,936 --> 00:35:07,572
You may not want to do that,
overweight lover.

945
00:35:07,572 --> 00:35:09,641
You may not
want to do that.
What the hell...

946
00:35:09,641 --> 00:35:12,444
You may not wanna do that.
...is going on in here?

947
00:35:12,444 --> 00:35:14,479
Who talks like that?

948
00:35:14,479 --> 00:35:15,847
Woman: Oh, my God.

949
00:35:15,847 --> 00:35:18,783
Don't try to win or score
a point this way, sir.
Wait a minute, now.

950
00:35:18,783 --> 00:35:20,518
Wait a minute.
Okay, let me --

951
00:35:20,518 --> 00:35:22,320
let me go back
to this bed.

952
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:23,888
The bed is $800.

953
00:35:23,888 --> 00:35:26,691
And the mattress.
Where is the bed?

954
00:35:26,691 --> 00:35:28,460
He sold it.

955
00:35:28,460 --> 00:35:29,494
What?

956
00:35:29,494 --> 00:35:30,829
Yes.
You sold her bed?

957
00:35:30,829 --> 00:35:33,932
I -- If you wanna call
her headboard the bed, then...

958
00:35:33,932 --> 00:35:36,501
How much -- [ Stammering ]
Not fair.

959
00:35:36,501 --> 00:35:38,103
Did you know
it was getting sold?

960
00:35:38,103 --> 00:35:40,005
No! I acci--
You discovered it
when you went to the --

961
00:35:40,005 --> 00:35:42,841
Exactly. I was trying to pick up
some things for work.

962
00:35:42,841 --> 00:35:45,777
Clyde, do you have
any proof of this?

963
00:35:45,777 --> 00:35:48,113
Uh, yeah. I provided your,
um, staff with...

964
00:35:48,113 --> 00:35:50,782
All right, let me see
what the monitors --
I wanna see this.

965
00:35:50,782 --> 00:35:53,585
White Queen Headboard
Wall Mount, tw--

966
00:35:54,686 --> 00:35:55,687
$20?

967
00:35:55,687 --> 00:35:56,821
[ Laughter ]

968
00:35:56,821 --> 00:35:59,491
Clyde, why you be
playing these games?

969
00:35:59,491 --> 00:36:00,859
You need to stop it, sir.

970
00:36:00,859 --> 00:36:03,161
That post --
Well, that's a problem --
You need to knock it off.

971
00:36:03,161 --> 00:36:05,230
That's a problem if you
can't recognize your furniture.

972
00:36:05,230 --> 00:36:09,100
No, what's a problem is that you
would sell my things!
Clyde. Hold one second.

973
00:36:09,100 --> 00:36:11,636
Whoa.
One second, Romona.
Without my knowledge!

974
00:36:11,636 --> 00:36:12,771
Miss Romona.
Yes, sir.
Please.

975
00:36:12,771 --> 00:36:14,639
Let me --
Let me say something, Clyde.
Sure.

976
00:36:14,639 --> 00:36:16,741
What happened
to this mattress?

977
00:36:16,741 --> 00:36:18,743
Khafre
came to live with us.

978
00:36:18,743 --> 00:36:20,712
Who?
Khafre.

979
00:36:20,712 --> 00:36:21,846
Clyde's son.

980
00:36:21,846 --> 00:36:25,216
Come over to the witness box,
would you, sir?

981
00:36:25,550 --> 00:36:27,419
You should
be shame yourself, Clyde.

982
00:36:27,419 --> 00:36:28,520
[ Chuckles ]

983
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:29,688
Tell me your name, sir.

984
00:36:29,688 --> 00:36:30,789
Khafre.

985
00:36:30,789 --> 00:36:33,525
Khafre,
and you're Clyde's son?

986
00:36:33,525 --> 00:36:34,526
Yep, that's my dad.

987
00:36:34,526 --> 00:36:35,126
Okay.

988
00:36:35,126 --> 00:36:38,863
Tell me what your knowledge is
about this mattress.

989
00:36:38,863 --> 00:36:43,702
Okay, so, initially,
I was sleeping on
his
bed.

990
00:36:43,702 --> 00:36:47,706
And then, they were sleeping
on her old mattress.

991
00:36:47,706 --> 00:36:50,809
So, I guess she was having
severe back pain

992
00:36:50,809 --> 00:36:53,945
or something like that,
so we swapped mattresses.

993
00:36:53,945 --> 00:36:58,116
When I moved out,
I took the mattress with me.

994
00:36:58,116 --> 00:37:01,052
But, I mean, she was rarely
ever in the house,

995
00:37:01,052 --> 00:37:03,922
but she was present
when we -- when I moved out.

996
00:37:03,922 --> 00:37:05,623
When you moved out,

997
00:37:05,623 --> 00:37:07,792
did you ask her
for the mattress?

998
00:37:07,792 --> 00:37:08,893
Not explicitly, no.

999
00:37:08,893 --> 00:37:10,729
But she was there when --

1000
00:37:10,729 --> 00:37:12,630
when she saw me
take the mattress with me.

1001
00:37:12,630 --> 00:37:14,733
No, I wasn't, Khafre.
Steve: Well...

1002
00:37:14,733 --> 00:37:16,668
I love you.
You should not lie like that.

1003
00:37:16,668 --> 00:37:17,769
You really
shouldn't do that.

1004
00:37:17,769 --> 00:37:18,903
I don't have any reason
to lie.

1005
00:37:18,903 --> 00:37:20,071
Let's -- Let's assume

1006
00:37:20,071 --> 00:37:21,673
everybody's
telling the truth here.

1007
00:37:21,673 --> 00:37:22,707
[ Laughter ]

1008
00:37:22,707 --> 00:37:24,375
I know
I'm telling the truth.

1009
00:37:24,375 --> 00:37:26,544
They're not.

1010
00:37:26,544 --> 00:37:27,812
So, now, would you say --

1011
00:37:27,812 --> 00:37:29,547
Let me ask you a question,
Mr. Clyde.

1012
00:37:29,547 --> 00:37:30,782
Sure.

1013
00:37:30,782 --> 00:37:34,419
Did the mattress that belonged
to her leave the house?

1014
00:37:34,419 --> 00:37:35,420
Yes.

1015
00:37:35,420 --> 00:37:35,920
Thank you.

1016
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:36,955
Thank you, sir.

1017
00:37:36,955 --> 00:37:38,590
You can step down.

1018
00:37:38,590 --> 00:37:40,692
So, now,
let me get to this here.

1019
00:37:43,795 --> 00:37:45,597
What is this really about?

1020
00:37:45,597 --> 00:37:47,932
So...
Because I can't believe

1021
00:37:47,932 --> 00:37:52,036
this is about a $20 headboard
and this mattress.

1022
00:37:52,036 --> 00:37:53,905
What's really happening
here?

1023
00:37:53,905 --> 00:37:55,740
My bed wasn't $20.

1024
00:37:55,740 --> 00:37:58,143
I was married for 26 years,
I got a divorce,

1025
00:37:58,143 --> 00:38:01,780
and I had to start over
in another state.

1026
00:38:01,780 --> 00:38:06,151
The reality is I paid money
for my things.

1027
00:38:06,151 --> 00:38:08,853
I came in that relationship
with those things.

1028
00:38:08,853 --> 00:38:10,755
I should leave with them.

1029
00:38:10,755 --> 00:38:12,757
[ Applause ]

1030
00:38:14,025 --> 00:38:16,227
Shame on you.
No, I think shame on her.

1031
00:38:16,227 --> 00:38:18,763
I mean...
Those are my things!
Woman: Right!

1032
00:38:18,763 --> 00:38:21,132
The reason that I think
we're here is because

1033
00:38:21,132 --> 00:38:24,602
we were in the process
of buying a house together.

1034
00:38:24,602 --> 00:38:25,703
Huh?
Okay?

1035
00:38:25,703 --> 00:38:26,871
We were in a --
Wait, hold up.

1036
00:38:26,871 --> 00:38:28,640
Y'all -- what?

1037
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:29,941
This -- I ain't --
I ain't never --

1038
00:38:29,941 --> 00:38:31,943
You know, man.
Y'all -- Y'all --

1039
00:38:31,943 --> 00:38:34,913
I don't know if you all
don't have storytelling skills.

1040
00:38:34,913 --> 00:38:36,047
Maybe not.

1041
00:38:36,047 --> 00:38:38,116
I don't -- I don't --
You know, this -- this --

1042
00:38:38,116 --> 00:38:39,317
this story was going along...
You said --

1043
00:38:39,317 --> 00:38:42,754
...and then, all of a sudden,
"We moved in together."

1044
00:38:42,754 --> 00:38:44,689
And now, you know,
"We tried --"

1045
00:38:44,689 --> 00:38:46,925
"They put my bed on sale
for $20.

1046
00:38:46,925 --> 00:38:49,861
He took my bedroom out
and moved out the house."

1047
00:38:49,861 --> 00:38:50,962
What is this really about?

1048
00:38:50,962 --> 00:38:53,565
"Well, we was fixin'
to buy a house."

1049
00:38:53,565 --> 00:38:54,599
Yeah.

1050
00:38:54,599 --> 00:38:55,967
[ Laughter ]

1051
00:38:55,967 --> 00:38:59,003
[ Laughing ]
What? What?

1052
00:38:59,003 --> 00:39:00,572
Clyde.
Right.

1053
00:39:00,572 --> 00:39:01,172
So...
What?

1054
00:39:01,172 --> 00:39:04,075
So, I mean, before we got
to this point where,

1055
00:39:04,075 --> 00:39:05,977
you know,
the relationship ended,

1056
00:39:05,977 --> 00:39:09,214
we were in the process
because we had saved some money,

1057
00:39:09,214 --> 00:39:11,816
or, at least,
I had saved some money,

1058
00:39:11,816 --> 00:39:13,184
and we were in the process
of buying a house.

1059
00:39:13,184 --> 00:39:15,186
You backed out because
you didn't want me

1060
00:39:15,186 --> 00:39:16,988
to have a conversation
with a contra--

1061
00:39:16,988 --> 00:39:18,857
with the, uh --
with the mortgage broker.

1062
00:39:18,857 --> 00:39:20,024
That's how we broke up.

1063
00:39:20,024 --> 00:39:21,926
And that was it for me.

1064
00:39:21,926 --> 00:39:23,928
How can I be
out of something,

1065
00:39:23,928 --> 00:39:25,663
and I put $12,000 in?

1066
00:39:25,663 --> 00:39:26,764
You were out.
Exactly.

1067
00:39:26,764 --> 00:39:28,166
So what happened
to your $12,000?

1068
00:39:28,166 --> 00:39:29,968
So, eventually --
I gave
every dime back, sir.

1069
00:39:29,968 --> 00:39:34,072
Listen, it was -- it was left
into Romona's account

1070
00:39:34,072 --> 00:39:36,107
until she closed
on the house.

1071
00:39:36,107 --> 00:39:38,176
And I sent you
that affidavit.
Because she asked me
to do that.

1072
00:39:38,176 --> 00:39:41,145
So, bottom line, Clyde --
did you get your money back?

1073
00:39:41,145 --> 00:39:44,782
I got some of my money back,
minus $200.

1074
00:39:44,782 --> 00:39:46,150
[ Laughter ]

1075
00:39:46,150 --> 00:39:48,086
But the point is,
she said

1076
00:39:48,086 --> 00:39:50,188
that she's gonna close
on a certain date

1077
00:39:50,188 --> 00:39:53,157
and she needed the funds
that I had provided

1078
00:39:53,157 --> 00:39:54,959
in the account
for her to close.

1079
00:39:54,959 --> 00:39:56,995
No, I didn't.
I said, "Have at it.

1080
00:39:56,995 --> 00:40:00,098
I just need my money back
when you close."

1081
00:40:00,098 --> 00:40:01,933
And I could have
just said that,

1082
00:40:01,933 --> 00:40:03,835
"I need my money back
right now."

1083
00:40:03,835 --> 00:40:04,869
You -- No.

1084
00:40:04,869 --> 00:40:06,771
No.
Okay. Here's the deal.

1085
00:40:06,771 --> 00:40:08,773
I've reached my verdict.
Please!

1086
00:40:08,773 --> 00:40:10,808
[ Cheers and applause ]

1087
00:40:16,214 --> 00:40:20,051
This, to me,
really is simply open and shut.

1088
00:40:20,051 --> 00:40:21,386
And it's open and shut

1089
00:40:21,386 --> 00:40:27,025
because of what everybody said
out their mouth themself.

1090
00:40:27,025 --> 00:40:29,127
I don't even have to
make a decision.

1091
00:40:29,127 --> 00:40:30,962
Here was the deal.

1092
00:40:30,962 --> 00:40:35,066
Whether this woman
was home or not,

1093
00:40:35,066 --> 00:40:37,268
her bed is gone.

1094
00:40:37,268 --> 00:40:41,139
I believe she had a bed
from the beginning

1095
00:40:41,139 --> 00:40:44,242
because I believe when she got
a divorce, she started over.

1096
00:40:44,242 --> 00:40:47,011
And women don't sleep
on the floor.

1097
00:40:47,011 --> 00:40:49,247
Women buy beds.
[ Applause ]

1098
00:40:49,247 --> 00:40:53,217
We sleep on the floor
and mattresses,

1099
00:40:53,217 --> 00:40:57,121
piles of clothes
'cause we dudes.

1100
00:40:57,121 --> 00:40:59,190
This woman had a bed.

1101
00:40:59,190 --> 00:41:01,326
There's no way
she lived on a broke bed.

1102
00:41:01,326 --> 00:41:03,861
That's right.
She ain't that type of woman.

1103
00:41:03,861 --> 00:41:04,929
Nope.

1104
00:41:04,929 --> 00:41:07,031
But we got a decent man
over here, too.

1105
00:41:07,031 --> 00:41:09,767
And the thing he done
was he showed up

1106
00:41:09,767 --> 00:41:10,435
when the chips was down.

1107
00:41:10,435 --> 00:41:13,705
When she needed that $12,000
to show good for the house,

1108
00:41:13,705 --> 00:41:14,405
he did that.

1109
00:41:14,405 --> 00:41:18,009
We got two good people
that made a couple of mistakes.

1110
00:41:18,009 --> 00:41:19,077
It's real simple.

1111
00:41:19,077 --> 00:41:21,946
The son came up here
and was honest and said,

1112
00:41:21,946 --> 00:41:23,181
"I took the mattress."

1113
00:41:23,181 --> 00:41:25,016
That's all we in here for.

1114
00:41:25,016 --> 00:41:28,086
The suit for $2,800 --

1115
00:41:28,086 --> 00:41:31,389
I can't get nothing for $1,600
for emotional distress,

1116
00:41:31,389 --> 00:41:35,927
but I can give you the money
for bed and mattress.

1117
00:41:35,927 --> 00:41:37,929
I don't believe
it was brand new,

1118
00:41:37,929 --> 00:41:39,130
but I do believe you.

1119
00:41:39,130 --> 00:41:42,800
My ruling is for the plaintiff
for $1,200.

1120
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:43,768
Thank you, Judge.

1121
00:41:43,768 --> 00:41:44,836
Thank you very much.

1122
00:41:44,836 --> 00:41:46,004
That's my verdict.

1123
00:41:46,004 --> 00:41:47,872
And that's the way I see it.
Thank you.

1124
00:41:47,872 --> 00:41:49,741
[ Cheers and applause ]

1125
00:41:49,741 --> 00:41:57,048
♪♪

1126
00:41:57,048 --> 00:42:04,956
♪♪

1127
00:42:04,956 --> 00:42:12,830
♪♪

1128
00:42:12,830 --> 00:42:20,938
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