1 00:00:26,523 --> 00:00:27,363 [Tayla] Be kind. 2 00:00:29,763 --> 00:00:31,003 Be a kind person. 3 00:00:31,443 --> 00:00:34,083 That's the only message our parents had for us when we were growing up. 4 00:00:37,043 --> 00:00:40,043 They didn't care about the trophies, about the awards. 5 00:00:40,963 --> 00:00:42,923 They didn't care as long as I was happy. 6 00:00:44,363 --> 00:00:45,483 As long as I was a kind person. 7 00:00:53,923 --> 00:00:56,683 [Announcer] Please welcome from the Brisbane Lions, Tayla Harris. 8 00:00:57,203 --> 00:00:59,723 [Broadcaster 1] Tayla, one of the best key forwards in the competition. 9 00:00:59,803 --> 00:01:01,843 [Broadcaster 2] Tayla Harris, what a game she's having. 10 00:01:01,923 --> 00:01:03,763 -[boxing bell dings] -[boxing announcer] Round One! 11 00:01:04,763 --> 00:01:08,243 [Broadcatser 1] Looking at this, because Harris is going to work against... 12 00:01:10,443 --> 00:01:14,723 [boxing announcer] New Australian middleweight champion! 13 00:01:23,723 --> 00:01:26,723 [Tayla] I don't know what I expected with life becoming so public, 14 00:01:27,043 --> 00:01:30,923 but I thought if you just try to be kind, people will be kind back to you. 15 00:01:32,443 --> 00:01:34,683 The world doesn't necessarily work that way. 16 00:01:40,163 --> 00:01:43,243 [Commentator 1] The big story-- and we should talk about this because it is 17 00:01:43,323 --> 00:01:46,843 what has been dominating headlines-- and it is of course Tayla Harris 18 00:01:46,923 --> 00:01:49,643 on the hunt for a third AFLW club. 19 00:01:49,723 --> 00:01:51,043 [Commentator 2] Obviously she's a very good player. 20 00:01:51,123 --> 00:01:52,283 [Commentator 3] She was a very good player. 21 00:01:52,363 --> 00:01:53,163 [Commentator 2] What do you mean "was"? 22 00:01:53,243 --> 00:01:54,763 [Commentator 3] I don't think she's a very good player any more. 23 00:01:54,843 --> 00:01:56,603 [Commentator 4] Because a lot of people said she didn't have a great season. 24 00:01:56,683 --> 00:01:59,323 [Commentator 1] She sat down with the club and said, "I wanna be up front. 25 00:01:59,403 --> 00:02:00,843 I had a below average season." 26 00:02:00,923 --> 00:02:03,363 [Commentator 5] The great players handle pressure, and the pressure that's 27 00:02:03,443 --> 00:02:05,123 being placed on Tayla is massive. 28 00:02:10,003 --> 00:02:13,843 [Journalist 1] This one picture of Tayla Harris has sparked a storm of controversy. 29 00:02:13,923 --> 00:02:16,603 Online trolls who targeted women's star, Tayla Harris. 30 00:02:16,683 --> 00:02:17,963 Sexist, derogatory comments. 31 00:02:18,043 --> 00:02:19,683 [Newscaster 1] Enough is enough of these trolls. 32 00:02:19,763 --> 00:02:21,443 [Newscaster 2] This is just ridiculous. 33 00:02:21,523 --> 00:02:23,963 Pulled down the statue. Burn her on a stake. 34 00:02:25,443 --> 00:02:27,403 [Tayla] Realistically, I shouldn't really care what they think. 35 00:02:28,443 --> 00:02:31,363 I'm human too, so of course it gets to me sometimes. 36 00:02:39,683 --> 00:02:40,963 I know what they say. 37 00:02:41,763 --> 00:02:44,803 They tell me everyday I'm overrated, overpaid, 38 00:02:44,883 --> 00:02:46,803 just some girl who got lucky with a photo. 39 00:02:48,803 --> 00:02:51,683 But they have no idea who I really am. 40 00:03:06,603 --> 00:03:07,483 [strains] Hnn-yah. 41 00:03:10,843 --> 00:03:13,323 Fuck. It looked yuck. 42 00:03:13,403 --> 00:03:15,603 Leg days are never, never pretty. 43 00:03:15,683 --> 00:03:16,603 Can we do it again? 44 00:03:17,163 --> 00:03:19,723 Every time I do a big one, I end up going bang. 45 00:03:21,283 --> 00:03:22,203 Okay. Here we go. 46 00:03:23,283 --> 00:03:24,123 [strains] Hnn-yah. 47 00:03:28,043 --> 00:03:29,363 [straining] 48 00:03:30,203 --> 00:03:32,443 [laughing] 49 00:03:33,003 --> 00:03:34,523 That was just as ugly. 50 00:03:34,603 --> 00:03:36,563 -Yeah, I think I could do more. -Oranges? 51 00:03:36,643 --> 00:03:37,443 -Yeah. -Yeah? 52 00:03:37,523 --> 00:03:40,323 [Tayla] I think people have expectations, of course, of athletes, 53 00:03:40,683 --> 00:03:43,243 and I think often it's forgotten that we're human. 54 00:03:43,323 --> 00:03:44,723 Like, for example, this season, 55 00:03:44,803 --> 00:03:50,483 I haven't played at all to my-- my standard that I put upon myself, 56 00:03:50,843 --> 00:03:54,403 but I've certainly got back to that point where now my absolute only obligation 57 00:03:54,483 --> 00:03:56,603 is to play good footy and to be a good boxer. 58 00:04:01,723 --> 00:04:05,323 With boxing playing its role because of course the physical benefits of 59 00:04:05,403 --> 00:04:08,683 boxing and boxing training are clear, and so they're always gonna help footy. 60 00:04:08,763 --> 00:04:11,443 Which is why my two sports go so hand in hand. 61 00:04:13,003 --> 00:04:18,523 [Faris] I've been working with Tayla since various start in 2015. 62 00:04:18,603 --> 00:04:20,963 She came out of nowhere, comes to the gym, 63 00:04:21,043 --> 00:04:22,643 I start having fights with her, 64 00:04:22,723 --> 00:04:26,003 and, like, I'm holding the mitts for her and, like, I can feel the impact. 65 00:04:26,083 --> 00:04:27,923 I'm like, "what's this?" 66 00:04:31,483 --> 00:04:32,683 In the fight, when you hold, 67 00:04:32,763 --> 00:04:34,603 -wait for my reaction. -Okay. 68 00:04:34,683 --> 00:04:38,403 Her first fight she won by stopping the other girl. 69 00:04:38,483 --> 00:04:40,363 Like, literally, she broke her nose. 70 00:04:40,443 --> 00:04:43,123 I knew she was hitting hard, but I wasn't expecting that. 71 00:04:43,203 --> 00:04:45,643 Well, she might have broke her nose, but she'd be apologetic about it too. 72 00:04:45,723 --> 00:04:48,403 She'd be horrified that she's done that, because that's-- that's in her nature. 73 00:04:48,483 --> 00:04:51,763 When she first started, she was saying, "Well, I don't like to hurt people. 74 00:04:51,843 --> 00:04:54,043 I don't like to hit people." And then-- but she's evolved on that. 75 00:04:54,123 --> 00:04:56,043 She understands it's part of the sport she's in. 76 00:04:57,723 --> 00:04:59,803 [Broadcaster 1] Tayla smells blood in the water. 77 00:05:00,403 --> 00:05:02,243 [Brian Amatruda] Now she's two-time Australian champion, 78 00:05:02,323 --> 00:05:04,163 and she's rated #3 in the world. 79 00:05:04,523 --> 00:05:07,323 I suppose why does two people-- one succeeds, one doesn't? 80 00:05:07,403 --> 00:05:08,603 One's got a bigger drive. 81 00:05:08,683 --> 00:05:10,163 And she's got a bigger drive than anybody I know. 82 00:05:12,523 --> 00:05:13,643 [Tayla] Lessons from boxing. 83 00:05:13,723 --> 00:05:16,563 Once something happens, and it doesn't necessarily go your way, 84 00:05:17,123 --> 00:05:21,443 there is no time to dwell on it 'cause the next punch is coming. 85 00:05:21,523 --> 00:05:24,483 And if you don't get out of the way, you're gonna get knocked out. 86 00:05:26,963 --> 00:05:28,123 And [indistinct] service. 87 00:05:31,283 --> 00:05:33,923 Come on, come on. Hello? 88 00:05:34,003 --> 00:05:35,203 [gasps] Hi, Beansy. 89 00:05:39,123 --> 00:05:40,643 Go Laine, go. 90 00:05:43,243 --> 00:05:48,163 Go Elaine! Go Elaine! This is me and my coach, Faris. 91 00:05:48,683 --> 00:05:52,243 So that was when I won my Australian title fight-- the second one-- 92 00:05:53,283 --> 00:05:57,003 and when I lost 10 kilos for the fight and I thought I was gonna die. 93 00:05:57,083 --> 00:05:58,523 It was such a strange feeling. 94 00:05:58,603 --> 00:06:00,883 He described it as driving a new car. 95 00:06:00,963 --> 00:06:05,843 Like, you just... don't know how it works, don't know how the controls work. 96 00:06:05,923 --> 00:06:08,763 I'll never forget. I've never felt... 97 00:06:09,803 --> 00:06:12,803 or seen anyone literally put belief in you. 98 00:06:12,883 --> 00:06:14,723 And if it was a movie, it would be one of those movies 99 00:06:14,803 --> 00:06:16,603 where they, like, zoom in on the brain 100 00:06:16,683 --> 00:06:18,883 and then it's, like, going through all the brain cells. 101 00:06:18,963 --> 00:06:21,523 And then it's like an explosion-- bang-- and then come back out. 102 00:06:21,603 --> 00:06:26,003 You can win this fight. Like, you are going to win this fight. 103 00:06:26,083 --> 00:06:27,123 And so I was like... 104 00:06:27,763 --> 00:06:30,203 "Okay," and then I went out and knocked her out. 105 00:06:30,923 --> 00:06:32,803 So in Brisbane I have a memory box-- 106 00:06:32,883 --> 00:06:35,723 or it's all, like, newspaper clippings and whatever else-- 107 00:06:35,803 --> 00:06:38,683 but I keep one here as well. 108 00:06:39,723 --> 00:06:43,163 Mostly for Mum, I guess. "Dear Tay, a quick letter to... 109 00:06:44,123 --> 00:06:45,803 "to you and the girls at Carlton FC 110 00:06:45,883 --> 00:06:50,443 "about the controversy pic of you kicking for goal in the recent game. 111 00:06:51,563 --> 00:06:54,323 "The boys here say great accuracy and amazing pick. 112 00:06:55,003 --> 00:06:59,123 "You so hot, babe, and look like you could have been anyone, anything. 113 00:06:59,203 --> 00:07:01,323 Keep going, babe. Kick it to me. LOL." 114 00:07:01,403 --> 00:07:02,803 Ohh that-- he's quoting the comments 115 00:07:03,603 --> 00:07:05,883 [laughing] Honestly. They send me these. 116 00:07:06,683 --> 00:07:09,243 But I think I should read this one. This is from someone in prison. 117 00:07:12,643 --> 00:07:14,203 This is from someone... 118 00:07:16,043 --> 00:07:19,163 "[indistinct] and the boys in Wallaroo Corrections." 119 00:07:22,283 --> 00:07:28,803 Hello and welcome to Channel 9 news. Today Tayla Harris is filming. 120 00:07:28,923 --> 00:07:33,363 [Tayla] I had a very fun and, you know, easygoing childhood. 121 00:07:33,443 --> 00:07:35,923 My next door neighbour and I would often hang out. 122 00:07:36,003 --> 00:07:38,403 We'd ride bikes, we'd film little home movies. 123 00:07:38,483 --> 00:07:40,883 For whatever reason, I was really into infomercials, 124 00:07:40,963 --> 00:07:42,603 and I think that was my destiny. 125 00:07:42,683 --> 00:07:45,203 [both] "Oh, what a feeling. Toyota." 126 00:07:45,283 --> 00:07:48,123 [Tayla] I reckon I was Sandra Sully for a while as Tracy. 127 00:07:48,203 --> 00:07:50,683 We have breaking news. Here is Tayla Harris. 128 00:07:51,283 --> 00:07:54,923 Hi, I'm Tayla Harris Breaking News. Today a Pelican has... 129 00:07:55,003 --> 00:07:56,123 [Lisa] Tayla, what are you doing? 130 00:07:56,203 --> 00:07:57,883 Give us the video camera. 131 00:07:57,963 --> 00:08:01,003 Oh no. Oh no! Shut it down! 132 00:08:01,083 --> 00:08:04,283 The funniest thing of them all-- the footage that I found of me doing 133 00:08:04,363 --> 00:08:05,843 a Colgate ad when I was 12 years old. 134 00:08:05,923 --> 00:08:08,443 It's legitimately, "Colgate." 135 00:08:08,523 --> 00:08:10,283 "Colgate Triple Action, 136 00:08:10,363 --> 00:08:12,323 triple the power, triple the action." 137 00:08:14,523 --> 00:08:16,123 Mmm, refreshing. 138 00:08:17,363 --> 00:08:18,803 [Tayla] I loved growing up in Brisbane. 139 00:08:20,363 --> 00:08:22,963 We had a backyard, trampoline, 140 00:08:23,043 --> 00:08:25,843 pool, kick the footy everywhere-- like, nothing fancy. 141 00:08:25,923 --> 00:08:28,003 Nothing rich. No mansion. 142 00:08:28,323 --> 00:08:30,643 Didn't really need phones. Didn't have an iPhone or anything. 143 00:08:30,723 --> 00:08:34,283 Just go out and ride our bike for 20 kilometres, or something ridiculous, 144 00:08:34,363 --> 00:08:36,083 and then get home before the street lights come on. 145 00:08:39,403 --> 00:08:43,083 [Lisa] When Tayla was five, she started to do AFL with Jack. 146 00:08:43,163 --> 00:08:46,123 It was because I used to take Jack to his training, 147 00:08:46,203 --> 00:08:48,403 and I'd have to sit in the car with Tayla. 148 00:08:48,483 --> 00:08:50,923 But she didn't like sitting in the car. 149 00:08:51,883 --> 00:08:54,123 [Warren] Then one day did they come up short one game, 150 00:08:54,203 --> 00:08:55,883 so she's running around going, "Put me on, put me on." 151 00:08:55,963 --> 00:08:57,883 So, they stuck her in a jersey at five, 152 00:08:57,963 --> 00:09:00,563 threw her on the field, and she's never really come off since then. 153 00:09:03,563 --> 00:09:06,723 [Tayla] Dad and Mum remind me it was a bit challenging for them as parents, 154 00:09:06,803 --> 00:09:09,523 because other parents would comment to their young boy, 155 00:09:09,603 --> 00:09:13,483 "Don't touch her. You're not allowed to tackle or hit girls or smash her. 156 00:09:13,563 --> 00:09:14,603 She shouldn't be here." 157 00:09:14,683 --> 00:09:17,683 Some took it the wrong way. Some parents didn't like it. 158 00:09:17,763 --> 00:09:20,003 You'd hear 'em say, "This is not fair to have a girl," 159 00:09:20,083 --> 00:09:21,363 and "The boys don't know what to do with her," 160 00:09:21,443 --> 00:09:22,443 and that type of stuff. 161 00:09:22,523 --> 00:09:25,643 And you know, the opposition team eventually sort of figured out 162 00:09:25,723 --> 00:09:28,163 that she was there to play, and if they didn't do their job 163 00:09:28,243 --> 00:09:31,483 and keep her under control, she was just going to run away with it, which she did. 164 00:09:31,563 --> 00:09:34,403 There's just a couple of Tayla's trophies that she's collected. 165 00:09:34,483 --> 00:09:36,283 There's cupboards of them. 166 00:09:36,363 --> 00:09:39,163 And then that's all her medals on that side. 167 00:09:45,963 --> 00:09:46,763 Oh, here we go. 168 00:09:46,843 --> 00:09:53,483 She was the first ever girl to be allowed in the AFL in the whole of Queensland. 169 00:09:53,563 --> 00:09:58,043 So, she was first, and she was 12. 170 00:09:59,083 --> 00:09:59,923 Yes! 171 00:10:01,883 --> 00:10:03,403 Come on, let's go. 172 00:10:08,683 --> 00:10:10,203 I'm gonna play like a Collingwood player. 173 00:10:10,283 --> 00:10:14,203 Being in a boys competition with Tayla and being at the level 174 00:10:14,283 --> 00:10:17,043 that she was. Because she was-- she was better than a lot of the boys. 175 00:10:18,643 --> 00:10:23,083 I think-- I think that football was the one that was on the table 176 00:10:23,163 --> 00:10:27,963 at the best and fairest when she won the Division One boys' best and fairest. 177 00:10:28,843 --> 00:10:32,283 Pretty sure that's the one. Because she started a football so young, 178 00:10:32,363 --> 00:10:36,123 I think football was what she wanted to do when she grew up. 179 00:10:36,203 --> 00:10:38,443 There was definitely support for women's game 180 00:10:38,523 --> 00:10:42,283 from the women themselves, who had been pushing for this for decades. 181 00:10:43,403 --> 00:10:46,683 At the elite men's level, half our spectators were women, 182 00:10:46,763 --> 00:10:48,723 um, but they are under-represented in area. 183 00:10:48,803 --> 00:10:50,643 Every area, including, clearly, participation. 184 00:10:50,723 --> 00:10:54,083 So AFLW is about redressing that. 185 00:10:54,163 --> 00:10:55,923 [Mike Fitzpatrick] All right, good morning, ladies and gentlemen. 186 00:10:56,003 --> 00:10:59,643 Thank you for being here today for what is truly a defining moment 187 00:10:59,723 --> 00:11:01,323 in the history of Australian football. 188 00:11:01,403 --> 00:11:05,963 The attitude of those that built it was our train is now leaving the station. 189 00:11:06,043 --> 00:11:09,203 It's express. If you're on the train, jump on now. 190 00:11:09,283 --> 00:11:12,883 [Reporter 1] The AFL today launched a national eight-team Women's League. 191 00:11:12,963 --> 00:11:14,163 [Mike Fitzpatrick] Today we are joined by 192 00:11:14,243 --> 00:11:16,603 some of the best players our game has to offer. 193 00:11:16,683 --> 00:11:19,923 [Reporter 2] So Tayla, we had some very exciting news on Friday that you were 194 00:11:20,003 --> 00:11:23,523 the first marquee player to be signed to the women's inaugural team. 195 00:11:23,603 --> 00:11:24,643 How excited are you? 196 00:11:24,723 --> 00:11:26,643 I'm very excited for everything that's happening. 197 00:11:26,723 --> 00:11:28,803 It was one of those moments where we were all just like, 198 00:11:28,883 --> 00:11:31,123 "Oh God, this is happening. Like, it's-- it's real. 199 00:11:31,203 --> 00:11:35,203 It's-- AFL Women's is a thing, and it wasn't just the day before." 200 00:11:35,283 --> 00:11:37,003 [Warren] The Lions actually signed her 201 00:11:37,083 --> 00:11:39,323 before even the contract was supposed to be announced. 202 00:11:39,403 --> 00:11:42,923 They wanted it that bad that they basically came out and said, "Sign this." 203 00:11:43,003 --> 00:11:46,363 So, we just knew from that moment that that was going to 204 00:11:46,443 --> 00:11:48,483 change everything, and it really did. 205 00:11:54,803 --> 00:11:58,963 [Tayla] I had been at the Lions for their first season from 2017 206 00:11:59,123 --> 00:12:01,403 until the following year, so I was there for six months. 207 00:12:05,163 --> 00:12:09,363 [Broadcaster 1] Tayla Harris, putting the icing on the cake for Brisbane Lions... 208 00:12:09,443 --> 00:12:14,843 And she does! Brisbane win here at Fremantle AFL. 209 00:12:14,923 --> 00:12:17,963 Well, we won all our games except for the one that we should have won, 210 00:12:18,043 --> 00:12:20,723 which was we lost by six points in the Grand Final. 211 00:12:21,243 --> 00:12:22,243 [Broadcaster 1] Fifteen seconds. 212 00:12:22,603 --> 00:12:25,923 Brisbane need to get numbers to the contest. Can Harris get there? 213 00:12:28,563 --> 00:12:29,843 -[whistle blows] -Crows win! 214 00:12:34,723 --> 00:12:39,603 The Adelaide Crows are the first AFLW premiers. 215 00:12:40,163 --> 00:12:42,243 [Tayla] It was amazing to be part of the first Grand Final, 216 00:12:42,323 --> 00:12:44,363 but yeah, wasn't there for very long. 217 00:12:45,243 --> 00:12:49,403 During the game, it's just-- I'm playing for the Lions, so that's who I'm gonna be. 218 00:12:49,483 --> 00:12:52,203 I'm gonna give my all for the Lions, so it's gonna be good. 219 00:12:52,283 --> 00:12:55,123 Tayla originally signed with the Brisbane Lions as a marquee player, 220 00:12:55,203 --> 00:12:57,803 and the marquee player is normally the best player in the team. 221 00:12:57,883 --> 00:13:01,483 Fairly historic day with the announcement of the Brisbane Lions 222 00:13:01,563 --> 00:13:05,763 first ever two marquee players for the National Women's League. 223 00:13:05,843 --> 00:13:09,123 [Tayla] Oh, it was a strange process to be seen as this marquee player or whatever, 224 00:13:09,203 --> 00:13:10,563 'cause I was just some random kid. 225 00:13:10,643 --> 00:13:13,803 Like, it was-- it was weird. I was 17. Like, I had no, 226 00:13:13,883 --> 00:13:16,603 you know, manager. There was no fine print read. 227 00:13:16,683 --> 00:13:18,403 So, Tayla was used as a poster girl, 228 00:13:18,483 --> 00:13:20,043 pretty much, for the Brisbane Lions. 229 00:13:20,763 --> 00:13:25,683 [Broadcaster 1] High ball. Harris ca-- oh, wow! Then delivers. 230 00:13:25,763 --> 00:13:27,083 [Tayla] In my first season with Brisbane, 231 00:13:27,163 --> 00:13:30,763 I was heavily scrutinised because people roasted me 232 00:13:30,843 --> 00:13:33,123 for never smiling and never singing the song. 233 00:13:34,003 --> 00:13:36,123 I was, like, "What do you mean? Like, I'm always smiling. 234 00:13:36,203 --> 00:13:38,203 I'm with my best mates. Like, I'm playing footy." 235 00:13:38,283 --> 00:13:41,803 Unfortunately, I also actually then chose to move to Victoria 236 00:13:41,883 --> 00:13:44,443 the year after, so I probably solidified people thoughts. 237 00:13:44,523 --> 00:13:48,723 And now every step I took or everything I did was judged. 238 00:13:49,763 --> 00:13:52,363 [Warren] It was a bit of a tough time, because she was sort of struggling 239 00:13:52,443 --> 00:13:55,043 with where she wanted to be at that stage. 240 00:13:55,123 --> 00:13:56,123 [Broadcaster 1] Terrific goal. 241 00:13:56,203 --> 00:13:58,603 [Warren] She had a lot of good friends and good people in the Lions 242 00:13:58,683 --> 00:14:03,683 that she, you know, looked up to. She knew that the next step in her career 243 00:14:03,963 --> 00:14:05,043 had to be down south. 244 00:14:05,123 --> 00:14:07,683 [Broadcaster 1] Here's Harris one-on-one with Gamble. 245 00:14:07,763 --> 00:14:11,723 And Tayla Harris stands up when needed for the Lions and takes a strong grab. 246 00:14:11,803 --> 00:14:15,283 There was a lot of commentary around her wanting to come to Melbourne 247 00:14:15,363 --> 00:14:18,283 to be a hot shot player that wanted to be famous and everything like that, 248 00:14:18,363 --> 00:14:19,683 and that was absolutely not the case. 249 00:14:20,563 --> 00:14:23,083 It was more the environment of probably having a lot 250 00:14:23,163 --> 00:14:25,123 of pressure on her at the time. 251 00:14:25,203 --> 00:14:26,803 Brisbane did not want me to leave. 252 00:14:26,883 --> 00:14:27,883 That didn't help. 253 00:14:27,963 --> 00:14:30,483 She was very close with Craig Starcevich, her coach. 254 00:14:31,403 --> 00:14:33,723 [Tayla] Yeah, Craig Starcevich was my coach 255 00:14:33,803 --> 00:14:35,563 through under-eighteen's Queensland team, 256 00:14:35,643 --> 00:14:38,043 and then he was the coach of the Brisbane Lions. 257 00:14:38,123 --> 00:14:39,123 So, yeah he he was cool. 258 00:14:39,203 --> 00:14:40,883 He was like a father figure, I guess. 259 00:14:40,963 --> 00:14:42,723 And unfortunately, when it came to 260 00:14:43,123 --> 00:14:46,203 sitting down with Craig and telling Craig about her decision, 261 00:14:46,283 --> 00:14:47,283 it was really tough. 262 00:14:47,363 --> 00:14:51,563 She was really emotional about it because she had been fully invested in that club. 263 00:14:51,643 --> 00:14:54,803 It was pretty difficult. It was one of the most challenging things, 264 00:14:54,883 --> 00:14:57,163 because I just didn't want to disappoint him. 265 00:14:57,243 --> 00:14:59,603 And he took it quite personally. 266 00:15:00,283 --> 00:15:02,643 [Broadcaster 1] Just inside the Brisbane camp, 267 00:15:02,723 --> 00:15:04,843 Coach Starcevich wouldn't be too happy about that. 268 00:15:05,243 --> 00:15:09,163 [Tayla] But no one's going to look out for your best interest more than you. 269 00:15:09,243 --> 00:15:13,563 And in reality, as soon as you're retired or injured, it's all over. 270 00:15:13,643 --> 00:15:17,163 A footy club has no, you know, no real... 271 00:15:17,923 --> 00:15:21,523 loyalty to you, so if there's moments in your career 272 00:15:21,603 --> 00:15:24,283 that you have to make a decision even though it's hard or even though 273 00:15:24,363 --> 00:15:28,043 it's not gonna please many people, I just believe you have to do it. 274 00:15:30,683 --> 00:15:32,603 You know, when she jumped ship to go to Carlton, 275 00:15:32,683 --> 00:15:36,243 then, you know, that brought out the worst in a lot of people, too. 276 00:15:36,323 --> 00:15:39,443 [Tayla] I didn't think it would be such a shit storm, but it was. 277 00:15:39,523 --> 00:15:41,523 I didn't think people would care, but they did. 278 00:15:41,963 --> 00:15:45,083 Trolled on social media, a lot of direct messages at the time. 279 00:15:45,163 --> 00:15:47,083 You know, just things like, "Oh, you're a traitor." 280 00:15:47,163 --> 00:15:50,603 And yeah, oh, "She's shit anyway," and whatever. It's like, whoa! 281 00:15:50,683 --> 00:15:54,483 I said it was a compliment that people cared so much that I was moving on 282 00:15:54,563 --> 00:15:58,483 to a different club, and they decided to let me know how shit I was anyway. 283 00:16:21,323 --> 00:16:25,203 Before every training, I write in my little book of fat dogs. 284 00:16:26,403 --> 00:16:29,923 As you can see, this dog has eaten too many meals. 285 00:16:30,043 --> 00:16:32,883 Um, but I write training focuses. 286 00:16:32,963 --> 00:16:35,003 I do a couple of mental, a couple physical. 287 00:16:35,643 --> 00:16:38,923 And then after training, I write out of five how I think I went, 288 00:16:39,083 --> 00:16:40,883 and then I write a little comment. 289 00:16:40,963 --> 00:16:42,683 Often, I think before training. 290 00:16:42,763 --> 00:16:45,723 I'll be like, "Oh, it'd be nice to have a good session today." 291 00:16:45,803 --> 00:16:48,123 When I write stuff down, obviously, 292 00:16:48,403 --> 00:16:50,923 it forces you to actually think about it more than half a second. 293 00:16:52,203 --> 00:16:53,563 To be honest, I probably didn't do it cause 294 00:16:53,643 --> 00:16:55,723 people would think, oh, it's a bit overboard. 295 00:16:55,803 --> 00:16:58,923 You know, a bit overkill. Like school when people would, 296 00:16:59,003 --> 00:17:01,363 "It's too cool to do that sort of stuff." 297 00:17:01,443 --> 00:17:03,723 Incidentally, I maybe did think that, but... 298 00:17:04,923 --> 00:17:05,763 Not any more. 299 00:17:12,523 --> 00:17:16,723 It was during the trade period. We got a call from Alex, Tayla's manager, 300 00:17:16,803 --> 00:17:20,203 and just said, look, things are stalling a little bit with the discussions with-- 301 00:17:20,283 --> 00:17:23,003 with Carlton, and would we be interested in in catching up 302 00:17:23,083 --> 00:17:26,123 to potentially explore some opportunities if things don't progress? 303 00:17:26,203 --> 00:17:29,763 Yeah, it wasn't something we were planning for or we were prepared for, 304 00:17:29,843 --> 00:17:32,923 but it was certainly something-- an opportunity we didn't want to miss. 305 00:17:34,603 --> 00:17:36,443 [Daisy Pearce] We first met 2012. 306 00:17:36,523 --> 00:17:39,563 I played in her team, you know, in a representative team, 307 00:17:39,643 --> 00:17:42,843 and she would have been like 14. So, I've known her over the years. 308 00:17:43,203 --> 00:17:44,883 Awesome having her as a part of our team. 309 00:17:44,963 --> 00:17:50,363 I was so excited when the opportunity to trade her in came up over the off-season, 310 00:17:50,443 --> 00:17:53,923 because I see her as someone who has achieved a bit and has a lot of talent 311 00:17:54,003 --> 00:17:56,683 but I don't think she's playing at her full potential yet. 312 00:17:56,763 --> 00:18:00,763 So that challenge of, yeah, get her in, and, as a leader, try and get 313 00:18:00,843 --> 00:18:02,563 the most out of her. That really excited me. 314 00:18:04,043 --> 00:18:08,843 She always does things with a big heart. She just wants to play. She always has. 315 00:18:12,163 --> 00:18:15,643 Well, she doesn't like the limelight as much as she keeps finding herself in it. 316 00:18:15,723 --> 00:18:20,003 She doesn't like having the accolades, so she's always trying to transfer that. 317 00:18:20,083 --> 00:18:22,283 But you know, when there's times where she'll have to handball, 318 00:18:22,363 --> 00:18:24,083 we want her to handball. But if she's within range, 319 00:18:24,163 --> 00:18:25,763 I want her to go back and have a shot. 320 00:18:27,523 --> 00:18:29,683 [Mick Stinear] The hopes for this season is, uh, 321 00:18:29,763 --> 00:18:33,203 that we're there on that last day and be good enough on the day to-- 322 00:18:33,283 --> 00:18:34,283 to win our first premiership. 323 00:18:39,323 --> 00:18:43,523 [Tayla] Hello, Melbourne! Is everybody having a good time tonight? 324 00:18:43,603 --> 00:18:46,683 Tonight there will be five-dollar basics at the bar until 9:00 PM. 325 00:18:47,363 --> 00:18:48,843 [indistinct] 326 00:18:49,843 --> 00:18:51,363 We just got a message from... 327 00:18:51,963 --> 00:18:54,363 Mick Stinear, the Melbourne coach. Mick said, "How bloody good 328 00:18:54,443 --> 00:18:57,723 "watching the boys in the Grand Final. Do me one favour tonight 329 00:18:57,803 --> 00:19:01,203 "and picture yourself in the red and blue and on the biggest stage in our game. 330 00:19:01,283 --> 00:19:02,763 "We know what it takes. 331 00:19:03,283 --> 00:19:06,363 "And in an uncertain world, we can be certain about one thing. 332 00:19:06,443 --> 00:19:09,083 "We will earn the right to compete in next year's Grand Final, 333 00:19:09,163 --> 00:19:12,603 "and we will execute on the biggest stage, and you'll forever be remembered 334 00:19:12,683 --> 00:19:17,083 as the first ever Melbourne team to win an AFLW premiership. Go D's!" 335 00:19:17,163 --> 00:19:17,963 Go Tigs! 336 00:19:20,643 --> 00:19:21,443 [Broadcaster 1] Good bounce. 337 00:19:21,523 --> 00:19:24,723 So, once I got confirmed that I was gonna go play at Melbourne Footy Club, 338 00:19:24,803 --> 00:19:28,683 it went from this uneasy, sort of unsure feeling-- 339 00:19:28,763 --> 00:19:31,003 obviously, not knowing where I was going, what I was going to do-- 340 00:19:31,083 --> 00:19:35,363 to just-- I was so excited. Like, I was so excited to... 341 00:19:36,003 --> 00:19:38,243 to be back at Mel. And I can say "back in Melbourne," 342 00:19:38,323 --> 00:19:40,723 'cause that's where I played my exhibition games for this. 343 00:19:40,803 --> 00:19:43,883 That was my very first interaction at an AFL Footy club. 344 00:19:45,883 --> 00:19:47,563 Tayla hates the camera. 345 00:19:47,643 --> 00:19:50,443 This what pressure feels like on the footy field, is it? 346 00:19:51,443 --> 00:19:52,803 Trying to get rid of it? 347 00:19:52,883 --> 00:19:54,203 [Broadcaster 1] Benny Brown... 348 00:19:54,283 --> 00:19:55,683 [Tayla] Benny Brown! 349 00:19:55,763 --> 00:19:57,603 Yay! Whoa. 350 00:19:59,083 --> 00:20:03,283 [Broadcaster 1] Long ball. Picking up the back. Petraca! Petraca! 351 00:20:04,363 --> 00:20:07,123 [Tayla] So I ended up finding my home at Melbourne 352 00:20:07,443 --> 00:20:12,963 on the basis that I can come on a one-year contract with absolute minimum payment. 353 00:20:13,043 --> 00:20:15,443 No additional staff, no media shit. 354 00:20:15,523 --> 00:20:19,323 Just go and play and train and prove myself and earn respect 355 00:20:19,403 --> 00:20:22,363 just from my teammates who don't know me and all they've read is that 356 00:20:22,443 --> 00:20:25,003 I want all this money and I want, you know, I'm a diva of some sort. 357 00:20:25,403 --> 00:20:28,403 [chanting] Go D's! Go D's! Go D's! 358 00:20:30,083 --> 00:20:32,163 [Tayla] I think I found the love for football again. 359 00:20:32,243 --> 00:20:36,283 Like, it feels great to be... I guess I have a clean slate. 360 00:20:36,403 --> 00:20:37,923 Ah. Look. Look. 361 00:20:38,003 --> 00:20:41,483 [Broadcaster 1] Every heart is beating true and blue for the red and blue. 362 00:20:44,523 --> 00:20:48,123 After 57 long years, The Demons are premiers in 2021. 363 00:20:49,803 --> 00:20:51,563 Extraordinary stuff. 364 00:20:53,843 --> 00:20:55,963 [cheering] 365 00:20:57,323 --> 00:20:58,643 [singing fight song] 366 00:20:58,723 --> 00:20:59,643 You sing that song. 367 00:21:01,043 --> 00:21:01,843 [muffled horseplay] 368 00:21:03,803 --> 00:21:05,323 [Friend] Knock me out, please. 369 00:21:06,843 --> 00:21:07,683 Oof! 370 00:21:09,523 --> 00:21:12,523 [Kodi] The first time I met Tay was... 371 00:21:13,043 --> 00:21:16,763 at a cafe. Me and Grace Egan were actually having a coffee 372 00:21:16,843 --> 00:21:20,243 with one of the coaches from Richmond, and Tay walked past, 373 00:21:20,323 --> 00:21:23,403 and Grace, like, nudged me and she's like, "Just be nice. Like, she's-- 374 00:21:23,483 --> 00:21:26,083 she gets a bit awkward sometimes. Just be nice to her." 375 00:21:26,163 --> 00:21:27,563 It was in the midst of COVID. 376 00:21:27,643 --> 00:21:32,963 And then a few weeks later we led into our round one. Richmond's first year. 377 00:21:33,043 --> 00:21:35,083 So, Richmond versus Carlton at IKON. 378 00:21:35,683 --> 00:21:39,003 I love the game, so if I'm gonna put someone off, I'm gonna put someone off, 379 00:21:39,083 --> 00:21:41,163 whether that's talking to them, bumping them. 380 00:21:41,243 --> 00:21:43,443 I was talking a bit of smack to some of her players, 381 00:21:43,523 --> 00:21:44,963 and she didn't like it at all. 382 00:21:45,043 --> 00:21:46,083 So there's Tay-- 383 00:21:46,163 --> 00:21:50,523 she's streaming along the side of the Oval, and I ended up picking up the ball. 384 00:21:50,603 --> 00:21:52,603 And I didn't know who it was at the time, and I just copped 385 00:21:52,683 --> 00:21:56,523 the biggest clothesline of all time. And I get up. I was all tough. 386 00:21:56,603 --> 00:21:58,083 I was like "Who's-- who was that?" 387 00:21:58,163 --> 00:22:01,403 One of the girls was like, "Tay Harris," and I was like, "Oh. Cool." 388 00:22:01,483 --> 00:22:04,123 I was like, "I'm not..." and just walked off. 389 00:22:05,843 --> 00:22:06,763 Go again. 390 00:22:08,963 --> 00:22:10,603 [Tayla] Kodes and I are a little team. 391 00:22:10,883 --> 00:22:15,883 And we love when our friends say, "Oh, we love you guys together," 392 00:22:15,963 --> 00:22:18,043 and like, "You guys bring out the best of each other. 393 00:22:18,123 --> 00:22:20,683 And we're-- both of our immediate response is "We know." 394 00:22:27,003 --> 00:22:31,283 When you're training with someone that you look up to, who motivates you, 395 00:22:31,363 --> 00:22:36,523 who you, I guess certainly in terms of running, aspire to be like, 396 00:22:36,603 --> 00:22:38,643 you do it because you want to make them proud, 397 00:22:38,723 --> 00:22:40,443 because no one else is going to see it. 398 00:22:40,523 --> 00:22:42,723 Mick, our Melbourne coach, is not going to see the session I did 399 00:22:42,803 --> 00:22:45,403 six months ago at the local footy field. 400 00:22:45,483 --> 00:22:46,363 The Kodes is the only one. 401 00:22:46,443 --> 00:22:49,963 It was pissing with rain, and our feet feel like ten kilos. 402 00:22:50,043 --> 00:22:53,003 But we still got through and we still worked hard and pushed each other through. 403 00:22:53,083 --> 00:22:57,043 Here comes our conehead. Watch her cone. 404 00:22:58,123 --> 00:22:59,763 [laughing] She's a little conehead. 405 00:23:02,123 --> 00:23:03,603 My sweetie. 406 00:23:05,243 --> 00:23:06,043 Her feet. 407 00:23:06,123 --> 00:23:10,843 Oh. I can't. Oh my God. 408 00:23:10,923 --> 00:23:12,803 Oh my God. 409 00:23:12,883 --> 00:23:15,723 She had no idea what she was going in for. 410 00:23:15,803 --> 00:23:19,643 [Kodi] 2021 off-season has been probably my most productive, 411 00:23:19,723 --> 00:23:22,083 which sounds weird because it was COVID. 412 00:23:22,163 --> 00:23:26,003 Me and Tay moved into a new house, got a new puppy. 413 00:23:26,083 --> 00:23:29,923 We really want to put our heads down and bum up and work, 414 00:23:30,003 --> 00:23:33,763 and one of the major things that we want to get better at was our fitness. 415 00:23:34,203 --> 00:23:35,923 Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba. Nice. 416 00:23:36,003 --> 00:23:40,003 And it's a new team. She wanted to-- she wanted to impress people. 417 00:23:40,083 --> 00:23:45,563 She's a tall blonde girl with tattoos who boxes, who plays footy, 418 00:23:45,843 --> 00:23:51,323 who's known to be quite tough and resilient, but like, she gets to it. 419 00:23:53,243 --> 00:23:56,443 So what, did you think you wanted to put the ears next to "kind"? 420 00:23:56,523 --> 00:23:58,923 or do you want to keep that spacing or what do you think? 421 00:23:59,003 --> 00:24:01,563 Maybe. What do you think? Will that make it too cramped? 422 00:24:03,163 --> 00:24:04,683 "To be kind is powerful." 423 00:24:04,763 --> 00:24:06,123 This is going to tickle this one. 424 00:24:06,203 --> 00:24:09,163 Yeah, I think this kind of is more... 425 00:24:10,203 --> 00:24:13,883 Bang. Bang! 'Cause then when I punch someone in the face, 426 00:24:13,963 --> 00:24:15,963 it's like, bang, kindness. 427 00:24:16,043 --> 00:24:18,843 Yeah, that's like that. [laughing] 428 00:24:19,443 --> 00:24:21,643 Well, this one is Elizabeth. 429 00:24:22,323 --> 00:24:28,123 That I got recently. And I actually got it because there's a bit of controversy, 430 00:24:29,123 --> 00:24:33,403 as per usual, about me, and like, changing clubs and all that sort of stuff. 431 00:24:33,483 --> 00:24:36,643 And one of my really good ment-- close mentors, 432 00:24:36,723 --> 00:24:41,563 he said, "I need you to read an article about how the Queen goes about things. 433 00:24:41,643 --> 00:24:45,163 You never hear her complaining." So, it's not so much about her. 434 00:24:45,243 --> 00:24:47,123 It's more about the mantra that she adopts, 435 00:24:47,203 --> 00:24:49,883 which is never complain, never explain. 436 00:24:50,523 --> 00:24:53,323 Context is the devil according to the media. 437 00:24:53,403 --> 00:24:56,683 Like, I've had things end up in the newspaper printed and I'm reading it 438 00:24:56,763 --> 00:24:59,883 right in front of me on a piece of paper, but it couldn't be further from the truth. 439 00:24:59,963 --> 00:25:02,843 And it's laughable because, you know, you-- what are you gonna do? 440 00:25:02,923 --> 00:25:03,883 You laugh or cry. 441 00:25:04,803 --> 00:25:08,723 You know, it's just unfortunate that with the AFLW coming 442 00:25:08,803 --> 00:25:13,683 into prominence, that these players have to manage a whole new 443 00:25:13,883 --> 00:25:17,083 realm of complexity when it comes to their online profile. 444 00:25:20,123 --> 00:25:23,643 Many of these young women are just out of school, 445 00:25:23,723 --> 00:25:26,323 but they are being thrust out there in the limelight. 446 00:25:26,403 --> 00:25:31,403 They're expected to have an online profile, and inevitably 447 00:25:31,483 --> 00:25:34,203 they're going to come up with some form of abuse. 448 00:25:37,443 --> 00:25:38,723 Okay, let's go. 449 00:25:39,963 --> 00:25:43,803 In my career I've-- Look, I've had my fair share of sexism 450 00:25:43,883 --> 00:25:48,123 and comments and remarks, and even just stereotypes 451 00:25:48,203 --> 00:25:51,483 of what is a female sports body or female sports person. 452 00:25:51,563 --> 00:25:55,523 Being in a big club, people just, like, wanting your blood pretty much. 453 00:25:55,603 --> 00:25:56,403 It's brutal. 454 00:25:56,483 --> 00:26:00,363 When I joined the Commission, I received hate mail and had a whole lot 455 00:26:00,443 --> 00:26:02,483 of guys from the footy world and the sports world 456 00:26:02,563 --> 00:26:06,003 throwing everything they could at me to say how outrageous it was 457 00:26:06,083 --> 00:26:10,083 that a woman dared to step into the man's world of managing footy. 458 00:26:10,163 --> 00:26:12,603 And that's been certainly challenging in my time. 459 00:26:12,683 --> 00:26:15,323 It's not physically in any way challenging. 460 00:26:15,403 --> 00:26:19,043 It's emotionally and mentally challenging. I've been playing footy for. 461 00:26:19,123 --> 00:26:23,803 I've been playing footy for, you know, 16-17 odd years, 462 00:26:23,883 --> 00:26:27,643 and week-in week-out trying to defend yourself 463 00:26:27,723 --> 00:26:32,203 and showcase or prove yourself and showcase that you are worthy enough. 464 00:26:32,283 --> 00:26:34,123 It's-- can be really tiring. 465 00:26:34,203 --> 00:26:37,363 Yeah, when I don't play well, obviously, it's-- you know about it 466 00:26:37,443 --> 00:26:39,563 and I'll get messages. 467 00:26:39,643 --> 00:26:42,283 You know, how shit I am, and I'll get told I'm, you know, 468 00:26:42,363 --> 00:26:46,283 a waste of space. But you know, I try to take it in my stride. 469 00:26:48,043 --> 00:26:51,003 [Broadcaster 1] Harris, those long extended arms. 470 00:26:51,083 --> 00:26:53,003 And she takes the mark in front of Ernst, 471 00:26:53,083 --> 00:26:56,243 and she'll go back and have a set chop because she's a thumping kick. 472 00:26:56,323 --> 00:26:58,123 [Lisa] We were down at the game. 473 00:26:58,203 --> 00:27:03,003 We were watching the game, and she kicks the way she normally kicks. 474 00:27:03,083 --> 00:27:06,243 So, it was no big deal seeing the kick, because that's how Tayla kicks. 475 00:27:11,843 --> 00:27:14,723 [Broadcaster 1] Tayla Harris with that very familiar approach 476 00:27:14,803 --> 00:27:16,763 and that very familiar finish. 477 00:27:17,483 --> 00:27:21,123 Tayla's always been renowned for her kicking style, 478 00:27:21,203 --> 00:27:23,483 even when she was a young girl up in Queensland playing. 479 00:27:23,563 --> 00:27:27,363 So, any time Tayla has a shot on goal, I always shoot it. 480 00:27:27,443 --> 00:27:30,323 Just so happened that particular kick she absolutely launched. 481 00:27:33,883 --> 00:27:37,483 It was a spectacular kick. It was like a 55 meter drop punt. 482 00:27:40,323 --> 00:27:43,283 I saw the photo, and the first thing I thought was wow. 483 00:27:43,363 --> 00:27:44,163 You know? 484 00:27:44,243 --> 00:27:46,243 Actually my groin hurt, my knees hurt, everything hurt, 485 00:27:46,323 --> 00:27:49,043 in seeing her in the pose that she was in mid-flight. 486 00:27:49,123 --> 00:27:51,243 Yeah, I think when I first saw the photo, I was like, "Oh my God, 487 00:27:51,323 --> 00:27:54,363 she's incredible. Like, this is my teammate. This is my friend." 488 00:27:54,443 --> 00:27:56,443 You looked at it and think-- you know, you see the height, 489 00:27:56,523 --> 00:27:59,403 she's off the ground-- the athleticism in the whole photo. 490 00:27:59,483 --> 00:28:03,043 I wish I could straighten my leg like that when I kicked, but I could never do that. 491 00:28:03,123 --> 00:28:05,483 [Maddie Prespakis] I just thought that's just the iconic Tayla moment, 492 00:28:05,563 --> 00:28:08,283 and that's Tayla Harris in a nutshell in a photo, basically. 493 00:28:12,723 --> 00:28:16,003 You know, to see how incredible it was... 494 00:28:16,843 --> 00:28:20,523 it just-- it blew my mind that people would take it to a place 495 00:28:20,603 --> 00:28:21,483 that they took it. 496 00:28:21,563 --> 00:28:25,083 And in Australia right now, this one picture of Tayla Harris has 497 00:28:25,163 --> 00:28:27,283 sparked a storm of controversy. 498 00:28:27,363 --> 00:28:32,563 [Lisa] So, yeah, some of the things were pretty foul. 499 00:28:32,643 --> 00:28:37,083 Calling her everything under the sun that you can think of and... just awful. 500 00:28:37,163 --> 00:28:38,523 Like really, really awful. 501 00:28:38,603 --> 00:28:42,483 [Tayla] From, like, graphic, disgusting, like, things, 502 00:28:42,563 --> 00:28:44,323 people alluding to what they'd do to me, 503 00:28:44,403 --> 00:28:46,363 or this, like, sexually and all this gross shit. 504 00:28:46,443 --> 00:28:52,043 And also, she had private messages sent to her that were ten times worse. 505 00:28:52,123 --> 00:28:58,683 One I remember was someone photoshopped as if I wasn't wearing the shorts, like... 506 00:28:58,923 --> 00:29:00,923 and that makes me want to throw up. 507 00:29:01,003 --> 00:29:03,323 A lot people don't realise how far that went. 508 00:29:03,403 --> 00:29:06,083 A lot of people will just look at it and go, "Oh, yeah, get over it." 509 00:29:06,163 --> 00:29:07,803 You know, "Toughen up. It's only, you know-- 510 00:29:07,883 --> 00:29:11,763 It's just a few people saying silly things." But it wasn't. 511 00:29:11,843 --> 00:29:13,603 It went beyond that. It went to threatening. 512 00:29:13,683 --> 00:29:19,643 You can't get your head around how awful and mean-spirited people can be. 513 00:29:19,723 --> 00:29:25,083 I had a call from the Prime Minister, and they said, "Have you seen what, 514 00:29:25,163 --> 00:29:27,963 "you know, what these people are saying about Tayla Harris? 515 00:29:28,043 --> 00:29:29,243 And what are you doing about it?" 516 00:29:31,883 --> 00:29:36,123 The AFLW star, Tayla Harris, has found herself at the centre 517 00:29:36,203 --> 00:29:38,123 of an online storm this morning. 518 00:29:38,243 --> 00:29:41,123 It's all because of an inspiring photo of her in full flight 519 00:29:41,203 --> 00:29:43,723 during Carlton's win over the Bulldogs. 520 00:29:43,803 --> 00:29:47,763 Now, when it was published, the image was bombarded with hurtful, 521 00:29:47,843 --> 00:29:50,003 sexist, derogatory comments. 522 00:29:52,163 --> 00:29:54,723 [Warren] She hides her emotions pretty well. 523 00:29:55,163 --> 00:29:58,523 I know that that got to her. 524 00:29:58,603 --> 00:30:00,523 When you see someone like Tayla 525 00:30:00,603 --> 00:30:04,123 that's so up and about and all the time and she's always smiling. 526 00:30:04,203 --> 00:30:06,883 And to sort of see her get shut down the way she got shut down 527 00:30:06,963 --> 00:30:08,203 was pretty disheartening. 528 00:30:10,963 --> 00:30:15,403 I think it it showed how toxic people can be. 529 00:30:16,203 --> 00:30:19,123 And it's probably made her a lot more guarded. 530 00:30:19,803 --> 00:30:22,923 [Warren] To know that somebody was out there saying those sorts of things 531 00:30:23,323 --> 00:30:25,123 or threatening those sorts of things, 532 00:30:25,203 --> 00:30:29,003 if we had to turn up the next day at the club, um, 533 00:30:29,083 --> 00:30:31,963 we had a security guard meet us at the gate to walk us in. 534 00:30:32,043 --> 00:30:34,763 Tayla had to have a security guard meet her at her car. 535 00:30:34,843 --> 00:30:37,803 [Tayla] I connected the dots that perhaps these people might turn up 536 00:30:37,883 --> 00:30:39,083 at the footy at that weekend. 537 00:30:39,163 --> 00:30:41,443 Or they might already be in the crowd. What if they were? 538 00:30:41,523 --> 00:30:45,003 What if they tried to lean over the fence and take things next step? 539 00:30:45,083 --> 00:30:46,843 Anyone-- wouldn't matter if you're a young girl 540 00:30:46,923 --> 00:30:49,603 or a grown man-- you know, someone starts threatening you, 541 00:30:49,683 --> 00:30:51,883 you're gonna start looking over your shoulder and think, 542 00:30:51,963 --> 00:30:55,163 alright, is someone here meaning to do me harm? 543 00:31:01,323 --> 00:31:02,603 [Faris] She's the first to do a lot of things. 544 00:31:02,683 --> 00:31:05,843 She's the first female boxer to, like, two titles. 545 00:31:06,723 --> 00:31:10,443 She's young, and to have all this attention on her can be hard. 546 00:31:10,523 --> 00:31:11,563 Some people will support you... 547 00:31:12,443 --> 00:31:15,403 but some people are going to, like, try to take you down for no reason. 548 00:31:18,483 --> 00:31:21,803 Because where she's going, she's doing things that, like, nobody's done before. 549 00:31:22,403 --> 00:31:24,843 That some people's gonna be happy. Some people are gonna be jealous. 550 00:31:29,843 --> 00:31:31,963 I think you're naturally, like, a nice person, 551 00:31:32,163 --> 00:31:36,563 you know, but once your opponent hits you, your face change. 552 00:31:37,163 --> 00:31:39,523 I like this face because you, like, so competitive. You like-- 553 00:31:39,603 --> 00:31:42,443 Get like, "Okay, it's on. Now we got a fight." You know? 554 00:31:44,243 --> 00:31:46,083 [Tayla] This is my biggest fear of the whole scenario-- 555 00:31:46,163 --> 00:31:50,443 a young girl thinking and dreaming of being an AFLW player sees the sort of shit 556 00:31:50,523 --> 00:31:53,763 that I have to deal with and thinks, oh, maybe I don't wanna do that. 557 00:31:54,403 --> 00:31:57,123 Because of this unnecessary bullshit. That's what gets me. 558 00:31:58,323 --> 00:32:02,403 Well, fans and the AFL have hit back at online trolls who targeted 559 00:32:02,483 --> 00:32:06,603 women's star, Tayla Harris, over this brilliant image of her in full flight. 560 00:32:06,683 --> 00:32:10,203 The AFL is promising to hunt down and punish trolls. 561 00:32:10,283 --> 00:32:15,283 The now famous image is being used to take a stand against online bullies 562 00:32:15,363 --> 00:32:16,803 and stamp out online trolls. 563 00:32:16,883 --> 00:32:17,963 [Alex Saundry] Through the entire night, 564 00:32:18,043 --> 00:32:21,043 I had breakfast radio and breakfast TV calling me non-stop. 565 00:32:21,123 --> 00:32:22,283 I think I fielded over-- 566 00:32:22,363 --> 00:32:25,803 I tried to count the other day-- about 287 media requests 567 00:32:25,883 --> 00:32:28,083 in the short space of under 24 hours. 568 00:32:28,163 --> 00:32:29,603 BBC, New York Times. 569 00:32:29,683 --> 00:32:33,003 It just went absolutely gangbusters across the globe. 570 00:32:33,083 --> 00:32:37,203 Tayla herself has posted the picture on her own Instagram page saying, 571 00:32:37,283 --> 00:32:40,763 "My hamstring is okay, but derogatory and sexist comments aren't." 572 00:32:40,843 --> 00:32:44,563 We decided a good idea would be to go on Daniel Harford, 573 00:32:44,643 --> 00:32:46,963 our coach's, radio show in that morning. 574 00:32:47,043 --> 00:32:49,723 It would be a safe place for her to have that conversation. 575 00:32:49,803 --> 00:32:52,923 Weren't trying to get a gotcha moment, not trying to grab headlines out of it, 576 00:32:53,003 --> 00:32:53,923 but just let her talk. 577 00:32:54,003 --> 00:32:57,843 The comments that I saw were sexual abuse, 578 00:32:57,923 --> 00:33:01,603 if that's-- if you can call it that because it was repulsive... 579 00:33:01,683 --> 00:33:03,643 -[Daniel Harford] Yep. -...and it made me uncomfortable. 580 00:33:03,723 --> 00:33:06,203 So, as soon as I'm uncomfortable with something like that, 581 00:33:06,283 --> 00:33:10,163 that's what I would consider sexual abuse on social media. 582 00:33:10,243 --> 00:33:12,363 She was 22, and I can't think of too many 583 00:33:12,443 --> 00:33:15,563 22-year-olds that would have been able to compartmentalise all that noise-- 584 00:33:15,643 --> 00:33:19,603 external noise-- and be able to deliver a message that she 585 00:33:19,683 --> 00:33:22,123 thought was a powerful as anything needed to be said at the time 586 00:33:22,203 --> 00:33:24,123 and then go ahead and play a game of footy on the weekend. 587 00:33:24,203 --> 00:33:26,003 There's not too many people capable of doing that. 588 00:33:26,083 --> 00:33:28,803 And that's where she just got in front of the camera and said, 589 00:33:28,883 --> 00:33:30,643 "Right-o. Now that's enough. 590 00:33:30,723 --> 00:33:32,403 You know, it's time that we put an end to this." 591 00:33:32,483 --> 00:33:35,803 [Alex Saundry] Tayla stood up and spoke of how she felt. 592 00:33:35,883 --> 00:33:39,963 It wasn't the AFL telling her how to feel. It was Tayla telling us how she felt. 593 00:33:40,043 --> 00:33:42,763 If I'm not gonna say anything, then what about the people who 594 00:33:42,843 --> 00:33:44,603 don't have the platform to do it? 595 00:33:44,683 --> 00:33:48,963 Tayla had to stand up for herself and people had to have a think about things 596 00:33:49,043 --> 00:33:53,603 and realise how wrong some people could be and how horrendous some people can think. 597 00:33:53,683 --> 00:33:57,483 Victoria police, whatever it is, need to at least 598 00:33:57,563 --> 00:34:00,123 contact these people, or some sort of warning, 599 00:34:00,203 --> 00:34:02,243 Facebook delete them. Something needs to happen. 600 00:34:02,323 --> 00:34:05,163 She stood up for herself and she shut it all down. 601 00:34:05,283 --> 00:34:07,883 And, um, I think, yeah, that itself was pretty inspiring. 602 00:34:07,963 --> 00:34:10,123 Enough is enough of this trolling. 603 00:34:10,203 --> 00:34:12,043 This is just ridiculous. People carrying on... 604 00:34:12,123 --> 00:34:13,403 It's got to stop. 605 00:34:13,483 --> 00:34:16,923 [Newscaster 3] Tayla Harris has called those responsible, "animals." 606 00:34:17,003 --> 00:34:18,163 [Newscaster 1] "This is me at work. 607 00:34:18,243 --> 00:34:22,403 Think about this before your derogatory comments, animals." 608 00:34:22,483 --> 00:34:26,363 Our Tay is standing up, yes, but we need Twitter to stand up. 609 00:34:26,443 --> 00:34:28,603 Block these people. Delete them off. 610 00:34:29,443 --> 00:34:32,683 [Tayla] No, I think the timing of this particular scenario 611 00:34:32,763 --> 00:34:35,203 was what it was meant to be. 612 00:34:35,603 --> 00:34:40,083 I was in a position mentally where I was in a really strong place. 613 00:34:40,163 --> 00:34:42,483 If this happened to someone who wasn't, perhaps, 614 00:34:42,563 --> 00:34:45,963 in such a strong mental space, that would be pretty scary. 615 00:34:46,843 --> 00:34:50,643 But as much as I was in the photo and I was the one who said 616 00:34:50,723 --> 00:34:52,723 some stuff in front of the cameras and things, 617 00:34:52,803 --> 00:34:58,963 in reality, it was a massive army and band of people that created that movement. 618 00:34:59,043 --> 00:35:02,363 Tayla's willingness to stand up against the online abuse 619 00:35:02,683 --> 00:35:07,483 was a watershed moment. And together with other watershed moments, they serve to 620 00:35:07,563 --> 00:35:12,843 change community sentiment about violence against women and about online abuse. 621 00:35:13,283 --> 00:35:18,363 And here we are, 18 months or so later, and there are big changes happening 622 00:35:18,443 --> 00:35:22,043 in our community because young women like Tayla are speaking up. 623 00:35:22,123 --> 00:35:27,043 That's what's happening now with Grace Tyme and Shanelle Kontos. 624 00:35:27,123 --> 00:35:29,283 And what's happening in Parliament House 625 00:35:29,363 --> 00:35:34,883 is it actually takes courage and bravery, usually from young women 626 00:35:34,963 --> 00:35:37,083 that actually serve to change community sentiment. 627 00:35:37,163 --> 00:35:40,563 [Newscaster 1] Thousands of people came and stood outside Parliament House today, 628 00:35:40,643 --> 00:35:41,483 wanting to be heard. 629 00:35:41,563 --> 00:35:43,283 There is a confronting 630 00:35:43,363 --> 00:35:46,923 sense of banality about sexual violence in our community. 631 00:35:47,003 --> 00:35:51,803 We know that abusive hate speech is escalating. 632 00:35:51,883 --> 00:35:55,323 [Newscaster 1] Within a week, more than 5,000 young people 633 00:35:55,403 --> 00:35:57,163 have come forward with testimonies 634 00:35:57,243 --> 00:35:59,923 of sexual assault by students at schools. 635 00:36:00,003 --> 00:36:05,203 I find it incredibly disappointing that you need to have multiple women's voices 636 00:36:05,283 --> 00:36:07,483 to be heard before they're taken seriously. 637 00:36:07,563 --> 00:36:11,083 The system is broken. The glass ceiling is still in place. 638 00:36:14,163 --> 00:36:18,683 It's about an ongoing systemic oppression that we're trying to end. 639 00:36:41,163 --> 00:36:42,323 That's okay. Do a right. 640 00:36:43,323 --> 00:36:44,123 Yeah. 641 00:36:44,683 --> 00:36:46,323 -Under now. -Nothing. 642 00:36:46,643 --> 00:36:47,443 One more? 643 00:36:48,883 --> 00:36:50,563 Under now, yeah. And rest. 644 00:36:52,963 --> 00:36:53,763 Two more. 645 00:36:55,523 --> 00:36:57,603 -Nice! Good job. -Fuck me. 646 00:36:57,683 --> 00:36:59,643 [giggles] Good job. 647 00:37:03,163 --> 00:37:06,883 Well, I got a text from a young girl's dad asking if I wouldn't mind 648 00:37:06,963 --> 00:37:09,243 chatting to her about her school assignment, but... 649 00:37:10,283 --> 00:37:12,643 it's about AFLW, so I said, "of course." 650 00:37:15,763 --> 00:37:17,403 -[Asha's Dad] Say hi to Asha. -[Asha] Hi. 651 00:37:17,483 --> 00:37:18,683 Hi. "Ash-uh," is it? 652 00:37:19,083 --> 00:37:19,883 [Asha] "Ah-sha." 653 00:37:19,963 --> 00:37:23,483 Asha, nice to meet you. How are you doing? 654 00:37:23,563 --> 00:37:26,763 [Asha] Um, good, thank you. Thank you for, um, helping me out. 655 00:37:26,843 --> 00:37:28,843 -I really appreciate this. -My pleasure. 656 00:37:28,923 --> 00:37:33,923 [Asha] Is there anything that you take from the rude comments and harassment? 657 00:37:34,003 --> 00:37:38,643 Yeah, well, I think something I've learned since I've been exposed to it all is that 658 00:37:38,923 --> 00:37:41,203 these people that are commenting, 659 00:37:41,283 --> 00:37:45,403 it's actually them projecting their issues as opposed to 660 00:37:45,483 --> 00:37:49,523 them highlighting any issue that the female athletes might have. 661 00:37:49,603 --> 00:37:52,763 We're just trying our best. We're just trying to play and, you know, 662 00:37:52,843 --> 00:37:55,283 and entertain people like we're supposed to do on the footy field. 663 00:37:55,363 --> 00:37:57,003 And it's not-- 664 00:37:57,083 --> 00:37:59,723 you know, it's not appropriate and not necessary for people to get online 665 00:37:59,803 --> 00:38:01,443 and say such horrible things. 666 00:38:01,763 --> 00:38:05,203 So, sometimes you get tempted to read it and believe it, 667 00:38:05,283 --> 00:38:09,283 but the reality is it's actually not necessarily what it first seems. 668 00:38:09,363 --> 00:38:11,323 [Asha] That definitely, um-- 669 00:38:11,403 --> 00:38:14,843 not even just for this project, but just in general-- 670 00:38:14,923 --> 00:38:17,083 was very inspiring, and it definitely 671 00:38:17,163 --> 00:38:20,083 gave me insight on the whole issue. 672 00:38:20,163 --> 00:38:24,083 Oh, thank you. Any time. And if you have any other questions or anything else... 673 00:38:24,163 --> 00:38:27,323 so if, you know, wanna catch up now that we can get out of lockdown soon, 674 00:38:27,443 --> 00:38:29,003 we can go for a kick or something. 675 00:38:29,083 --> 00:38:30,163 Um, that'd be fun. 676 00:38:30,243 --> 00:38:31,643 [Asha's Dad] Thank you for taking the time out. 677 00:38:31,723 --> 00:38:35,163 No, my pleasure. Have a great afternoon, talk soon, bye. 678 00:38:36,923 --> 00:38:38,843 -Done. -Good job. That was really good. 679 00:38:38,923 --> 00:38:41,363 -She was smarter than me. -[chuckles] Yeah. 680 00:38:45,803 --> 00:38:47,963 [Broadcaster 1] Contested forward 50 for the Blues. 681 00:38:48,043 --> 00:38:50,043 Harris in the middle of that pack. 682 00:38:52,003 --> 00:38:54,283 [Tayla] So, I played at Carlton footy club for four years. 683 00:38:55,043 --> 00:38:58,923 For three years, it was great. I loved everything out of the programme. 684 00:38:59,003 --> 00:39:01,923 I have and have made some of my best friends 685 00:39:02,003 --> 00:39:03,643 being at the footy club. 686 00:39:03,723 --> 00:39:05,243 So in overall experience, it was great. 687 00:39:05,323 --> 00:39:07,723 In my final year at Carlton, things, 688 00:39:07,803 --> 00:39:11,083 for various different reasons, kind of fell apart in a sense. 689 00:39:11,163 --> 00:39:14,523 Of course, COVID impacted everybody in different ways, 690 00:39:14,603 --> 00:39:19,323 um, and impacted the way that their general persona was. 691 00:39:19,403 --> 00:39:23,083 So, you could feel that certain people, including myself, 692 00:39:23,163 --> 00:39:25,523 at the club weren't themselves. 693 00:39:25,603 --> 00:39:28,403 [Alex Saundry] Season 2021 was a really unique one for Tayla. 694 00:39:28,483 --> 00:39:29,963 I think at the end of the season 695 00:39:30,043 --> 00:39:32,963 we we sat down, and she knew then it wasn't her-- 696 00:39:33,043 --> 00:39:34,763 her best year. She wasn't physically there. 697 00:39:34,843 --> 00:39:37,003 But more importantly, she wasn't really mentally there. 698 00:39:37,403 --> 00:39:40,883 It was really tough for Tayla to realise she wasn't at her best, 699 00:39:40,963 --> 00:39:42,803 because we knew what her best was. 700 00:39:44,763 --> 00:39:46,803 Twelve months ago she was a three-time all-Australian, 701 00:39:46,883 --> 00:39:48,443 three-time leading goal kicker. 702 00:39:48,523 --> 00:39:50,283 Throughout conversations with the club, 703 00:39:50,363 --> 00:39:51,883 that was a really prominent discussion-- 704 00:39:51,963 --> 00:39:55,523 understanding the change in her form. Um, and they were really 705 00:39:56,083 --> 00:39:58,003 honest conversations with the club. 706 00:39:58,083 --> 00:40:00,963 I felt really confident that we would get a deal done, 707 00:40:01,283 --> 00:40:04,643 probably up until my last phone call with the club. 708 00:40:04,723 --> 00:40:07,003 I've got goosebumps talking about it, because I just remember 709 00:40:07,083 --> 00:40:08,003 having the conversation with her. 710 00:40:08,083 --> 00:40:11,483 We're in Sydney at an event, and it was a great day. 711 00:40:11,563 --> 00:40:13,923 She calls me and says, "Can you meet me in the hotel room?" 712 00:40:14,443 --> 00:40:18,163 "Yeah, I'm coming." You know, thinking what could it possibly be. No big deal. 713 00:40:18,243 --> 00:40:20,643 Went up to the hotel room, asked everyone to leave 714 00:40:20,723 --> 00:40:23,283 and we'd meet them at lunch later and... 715 00:40:23,363 --> 00:40:24,443 She's like, "You might wanna sit down." 716 00:40:24,523 --> 00:40:26,083 And I was like, oh, what's happened? 717 00:40:26,163 --> 00:40:28,803 Like, thinking something like, horrific has happened. 718 00:40:28,923 --> 00:40:32,803 Sit down, she's like, "Carlton are not gonna offer you another contract. 719 00:40:33,683 --> 00:40:34,923 They don't want you any more." 720 00:40:36,603 --> 00:40:39,003 And she just broke down in tears. 721 00:40:39,083 --> 00:40:42,283 And for me to see someone as strong as Tay... 722 00:40:43,643 --> 00:40:46,003 feel that in that moment-- that disappointment, 723 00:40:46,643 --> 00:40:51,843 that heartbreak, that upset, that she was losing 29 of her best mates, 724 00:40:51,923 --> 00:40:54,523 um, that was something totally out of her control-- 725 00:40:54,683 --> 00:40:57,643 it was just like her world was falling apart. 726 00:40:57,723 --> 00:41:02,883 And it was at that point that we knew that it was going to be public, 727 00:41:02,963 --> 00:41:04,963 and that was what was really scary about it. 728 00:41:05,603 --> 00:41:08,443 [Newscaster 1] Well, she's one of the most pivotal figures in the AFLW. 729 00:41:08,523 --> 00:41:10,643 There was an intriguing article in the Herald Sun today 730 00:41:10,723 --> 00:41:16,923 which stated that Harris is asking for about $150,000 to play in the 2022 season. 731 00:41:17,003 --> 00:41:19,163 We wonder if there is more to the story. 732 00:41:19,243 --> 00:41:23,123 [Newscaster 2] Tayla Harris, on the hunt for a third AFLW club. 733 00:41:23,203 --> 00:41:29,203 Contract talks in the last week or so have now broken down with the Blues. 734 00:41:29,283 --> 00:41:30,603 [Radio Reporter] Daniel Harford, you need to come in on this, 735 00:41:30,683 --> 00:41:33,483 because there is a suggestion that Tayla Harris, 736 00:41:33,563 --> 00:41:37,883 one of the superstars of the AFLW, will no longer be a Carlton player. 737 00:41:38,523 --> 00:41:42,083 The report said that Tayla and Carlton have not been able 738 00:41:42,163 --> 00:41:44,363 to come to terms and that she is now 739 00:41:44,443 --> 00:41:45,883 being told to go and look for another club. 740 00:41:45,963 --> 00:41:49,203 [Daniel Harford] Well, she's taking that option to look for another club. 741 00:41:49,283 --> 00:41:51,803 Yes, it's been a bit of a difficult negotiation, 742 00:41:51,883 --> 00:41:54,523 clearly, for this one-- for us and for Tay, 743 00:41:54,683 --> 00:41:57,803 'cause you gotta put it all together and make sure you've got your reward 744 00:41:57,883 --> 00:42:00,683 for all your players who are deserving of those things through the journey. 745 00:42:00,763 --> 00:42:02,483 And Tayla's had, um, 746 00:42:02,563 --> 00:42:05,963 certainly some reward for her efforts through the campaign so far. 747 00:42:06,443 --> 00:42:08,403 But as played out in the-- 748 00:42:08,483 --> 00:42:10,483 well, it was the story last week, I think it was? 749 00:42:10,563 --> 00:42:12,363 It's just the gap was too big. 750 00:42:12,443 --> 00:42:14,043 We haven't been able to find common ground. 751 00:42:14,123 --> 00:42:15,163 [Alex Saundry] It was pretty laughable, 752 00:42:15,243 --> 00:42:17,483 and I remember reading the article and just going, 753 00:42:18,243 --> 00:42:22,083 "How has this gotten so far out of context? But where has this come from?" 754 00:42:22,283 --> 00:42:25,203 And we were probably really disappointed at the time. 755 00:42:25,283 --> 00:42:29,483 [Todd Patterson] The truth is quite different to what gets publicised. 756 00:42:29,563 --> 00:42:32,003 And the media speculation around her pay packet was 757 00:42:32,763 --> 00:42:35,523 so wildly incorrect, I couldn't believe it. 758 00:42:35,603 --> 00:42:37,563 The conversations we had with their management, 759 00:42:37,643 --> 00:42:41,923 the numbers were a long way away from what was being mentioned. 760 00:42:43,003 --> 00:42:44,803 Disappointing is probably the best word, 761 00:42:45,083 --> 00:42:48,603 because I-- like, I-- in every sense of the word-- 762 00:42:48,683 --> 00:42:52,083 I was committed to staying at Carlton and playing at Carlton 763 00:42:52,163 --> 00:42:54,723 and doing everything I can for Carlton. 764 00:42:54,803 --> 00:42:56,923 I have a tattoo. I've got a Carlton tattoo. 765 00:42:57,003 --> 00:43:00,203 Like, if that doesn't say much, then I don't know what does. 766 00:43:00,923 --> 00:43:03,923 [Newscaster 1] Starting over at the red and blue has been a welcome change 767 00:43:04,003 --> 00:43:07,643 after her departure from Carlton was sullied by pay negotiations 768 00:43:07,723 --> 00:43:10,243 and talk that Harris wanted too much. 769 00:43:10,403 --> 00:43:13,163 [Commentator 1] My view is that Tayla was an excellent player. 770 00:43:13,323 --> 00:43:15,163 But she's not that player that she was, 771 00:43:15,243 --> 00:43:17,203 but still wants to get paid the way she was. 772 00:43:17,283 --> 00:43:18,083 [Commentator 2] Well, you need to perform. 773 00:43:18,163 --> 00:43:20,523 [Commentator 1] So, maybe it's a fresh start is what she needs, 774 00:43:21,363 --> 00:43:24,483 and she then bounces back to be the player she was. 775 00:43:24,563 --> 00:43:29,283 Money is not an-- not a thing for me. So, for that to be part of the narrative 776 00:43:29,363 --> 00:43:32,323 was more frustrating than anything else because it 777 00:43:32,403 --> 00:43:36,683 was attacking my character, which was just far from the truth. 778 00:43:36,763 --> 00:43:37,963 And for that to be... 779 00:43:38,723 --> 00:43:42,323 used as clickbait, it was much more frustrating 780 00:43:42,403 --> 00:43:46,643 than anything else I've been through. But I felt like after a discussion with-- 781 00:43:48,043 --> 00:43:50,883 I guess my team, my management team-- 782 00:43:50,963 --> 00:43:54,843 we decided that it was a much bigger and more important conversation to be had. 783 00:43:54,923 --> 00:43:57,643 And that was, of course, that women deserve to be paid more. 784 00:44:03,763 --> 00:44:08,603 We still live in this world where men sport attracts more eyes on the telly. 785 00:44:08,683 --> 00:44:12,603 It attracts more dollars into the kitty to make it sustainable 786 00:44:12,683 --> 00:44:14,043 and to pay the big bucks for players. 787 00:44:14,123 --> 00:44:16,523 'Cause at the moment, the game is only held back 788 00:44:16,603 --> 00:44:18,883 by the fact that these are amateur athletes 789 00:44:19,003 --> 00:44:21,163 who are expected to play as elite athletes. 790 00:44:21,243 --> 00:44:22,923 Isn't Tay usually in front of the camera? 791 00:44:23,403 --> 00:44:24,323 [Tayla] Hi, Daisy... 792 00:44:24,403 --> 00:44:28,923 this is my new career-- wedding celebrant, boxer, footy player, camera woman. 793 00:44:29,003 --> 00:44:30,523 Wow, you're incredible. 794 00:44:31,163 --> 00:44:34,483 [Brandon Jack] I sometimes forget this is only the 6th season of the AFLW. 795 00:44:34,563 --> 00:44:37,003 So, that's-- I think the most games that a player could have played 796 00:44:37,083 --> 00:44:40,403 is still under 40, and the competition's grown quite fast. 797 00:44:40,483 --> 00:44:43,563 But I think the female players want more. 798 00:44:43,643 --> 00:44:46,363 They want to be full time athletes, and I think that... 799 00:44:47,043 --> 00:44:49,643 it's hard to see that coming, you know, next year. 800 00:44:49,723 --> 00:44:52,803 These girls want everything that the boys want when they play. 801 00:44:52,883 --> 00:44:56,043 There's a stigma around us women having to be grateful 802 00:44:56,123 --> 00:44:57,643 for the opportunity that we get. 803 00:44:57,723 --> 00:45:00,123 We're here to take this serious. We wanna be professional. 804 00:45:00,203 --> 00:45:02,883 We wanna get paid for it. Like, we're not here to just 805 00:45:03,043 --> 00:45:04,883 play because we love the sport. Yeah we did that. 806 00:45:04,963 --> 00:45:07,763 [Sam Mostyn] If these women were training at the same rate 807 00:45:07,843 --> 00:45:09,643 and paid in a kind of equivalence 808 00:45:09,803 --> 00:45:13,483 to the professional men, this would be the best footy in the country. 809 00:45:13,563 --> 00:45:17,043 These are women who are doing it part-time on shit money, 810 00:45:17,123 --> 00:45:20,483 and they've got full time jobs and they effectively self-support themselves. 811 00:45:21,003 --> 00:45:23,203 [Tayla] We're kind of pushing on our ceiling at the moment. 812 00:45:23,283 --> 00:45:26,363 And, like, there's players who are just exceptional, and you kind of think, 813 00:45:26,443 --> 00:45:29,723 jeez, imagine if she was really, like, training full time. 814 00:45:31,563 --> 00:45:34,203 Well, she could be, which is a pretty amazing thought. 815 00:45:34,283 --> 00:45:37,043 And it just kind of takes that leap of faith, I suppose. 816 00:45:46,163 --> 00:45:48,363 [Reporter] It's been a fairly interesting two years for the world. 817 00:45:48,443 --> 00:45:50,123 Um, just tell me how good it's been to have free back 818 00:45:50,203 --> 00:45:53,003 and how you set them into life as a day. 819 00:45:53,723 --> 00:45:55,963 We've had a pretty massive few years, 820 00:45:56,043 --> 00:45:57,523 myself and everyone else in the whole world, 821 00:45:57,603 --> 00:45:58,963 which is a pretty crazy thought. 822 00:46:00,163 --> 00:46:03,603 I've tried to, you know, move faster as much as I can on a personal level. 823 00:46:03,683 --> 00:46:07,403 And I just cannot wait for round one, because the last thing people remember 824 00:46:07,483 --> 00:46:10,643 remember is the last thing you did. So, I'm looking forward to 825 00:46:10,963 --> 00:46:13,523 the day I can step on the field, and you know, give my best. 826 00:46:13,603 --> 00:46:15,963 The thing I'm most excited about, though, is Christmas. 827 00:46:16,043 --> 00:46:17,923 If the border's open, going to see Mum and Dad, 828 00:46:18,003 --> 00:46:20,523 and I haven't seen them in obviously a fair while. 829 00:46:20,643 --> 00:46:24,643 But yeah, family is massive for me, so I can't wait to get up there. 830 00:46:24,723 --> 00:46:26,843 In my life, pretty much everything's going great. 831 00:46:26,923 --> 00:46:29,763 The one thing that I would love to tick off before the end of the year 832 00:46:29,843 --> 00:46:32,043 is to see my parents and my family. 833 00:46:32,763 --> 00:46:34,323 [Reporter indistinct] 834 00:46:34,403 --> 00:46:35,283 Thank you. 835 00:46:41,723 --> 00:46:43,763 [Tayla] I moved from Brisbane to Melbourne on the precedent 836 00:46:43,843 --> 00:46:46,723 that I could always go back. Only a couple years later, 837 00:46:46,803 --> 00:46:49,203 that ability to go back to be taken away-- 838 00:46:49,283 --> 00:46:51,363 I could never have imagined that was going to happen. 839 00:46:51,443 --> 00:46:52,323 [Tayla] Hi, hello. 840 00:46:52,403 --> 00:46:55,803 [Lisa sobbing] Hi. It's been too long. 841 00:46:58,403 --> 00:46:59,603 Hi, [indistinct] 842 00:47:01,243 --> 00:47:02,323 How are you, sweetie pea? 843 00:47:02,403 --> 00:47:05,083 Good. How are you? Why are you crying? 844 00:47:05,963 --> 00:47:07,523 Disappointing. [laughing] 845 00:47:08,483 --> 00:47:09,803 We've missed you so much. 846 00:47:09,883 --> 00:47:10,683 Miss you too. 847 00:47:10,763 --> 00:47:13,723 [Alex Saundry] I think the Tayla that I saw in 2020 was just a completely 848 00:47:13,803 --> 00:47:17,403 different version of someone that had everything taken from her. 849 00:47:17,483 --> 00:47:18,683 There's my Kodi. 850 00:47:21,443 --> 00:47:26,123 She understands that everyone was in a similar boat, but for her it was family, 851 00:47:26,203 --> 00:47:30,523 it was her work, it was her passion, it was her drive, it was everything. 852 00:47:31,123 --> 00:47:34,203 If you lay it out, like, when you take away everything from someone, 853 00:47:34,283 --> 00:47:38,763 everything that someone loves, family or even just ability to see family, 854 00:47:39,443 --> 00:47:41,643 sport, football, work. 855 00:47:42,323 --> 00:47:44,883 So, like I've had challenges that I've had to kind of overcome, 856 00:47:44,963 --> 00:47:47,123 and they've kind of played out and I've been able to rely on people, 857 00:47:47,203 --> 00:47:49,803 get advice, work it out as I go. 858 00:47:49,883 --> 00:47:53,323 It wasn't so dramatic, and it didn't take everything away. 859 00:47:53,683 --> 00:47:55,523 COVID did. And then not only that. 860 00:47:55,603 --> 00:47:58,643 Like, seeing people around me suffer much more. 861 00:47:58,723 --> 00:48:00,523 At the time, it was really hard to... 862 00:48:01,283 --> 00:48:05,323 I guess buy into complaining or buy into, like, feeling it, 863 00:48:05,403 --> 00:48:08,083 because the person potentially next to you 864 00:48:08,163 --> 00:48:10,803 doesn't even have family or something along those lines. 865 00:48:10,883 --> 00:48:15,723 And then so, I kind of, like, pigeon-holed myself thinking, "It's not so bad. 866 00:48:15,843 --> 00:48:21,283 At least I still have my family, just a FaceTime call away." 867 00:48:21,963 --> 00:48:25,323 I should never have played. Like, I should never have been able to take the field, 868 00:48:25,403 --> 00:48:29,083 because I was fucked. But I did, and so I could be happy with that. 869 00:48:30,243 --> 00:48:32,003 But then I guess getting back to your question about 870 00:48:32,083 --> 00:48:35,443 the Carlton fall out, I guess we can call it. 871 00:48:35,843 --> 00:48:39,883 Um, yeah, I think I was definitely hurt by the way that it unfolded. 872 00:48:40,443 --> 00:48:44,963 But I also very much understand that football is absolutely a business, 873 00:48:45,043 --> 00:48:48,003 and if you don't think it is for even a second, you're silly. 874 00:48:48,483 --> 00:48:51,963 Um, and then as soon as things go to shit a bit, you're out. 875 00:48:52,363 --> 00:48:54,003 And that's literally what happened. 876 00:48:54,203 --> 00:48:58,443 And so, yeah, obviously I didn't play very well. 877 00:48:58,523 --> 00:49:02,603 and then, um [choking up] ...cause for... 878 00:49:07,043 --> 00:49:10,603 I think, 'cause-- So, they-- Oh, fuck's sake. 879 00:49:14,403 --> 00:49:15,203 I love you. 880 00:49:15,283 --> 00:49:16,083 Love you. 881 00:49:16,523 --> 00:49:18,923 [Lisa] She was very fragile coming out of COVID. 882 00:49:19,523 --> 00:49:22,363 She likes to put off this 'I'm really tough. 883 00:49:22,443 --> 00:49:24,323 I don't need anybody' persona, 884 00:49:24,403 --> 00:49:26,083 and that's what is out there in the media. 885 00:49:26,163 --> 00:49:28,483 'Look at me, I'm-- I can handle anything.' 886 00:49:28,563 --> 00:49:33,203 I think deep down, she is sooky for her family. 887 00:49:46,363 --> 00:49:48,323 [Lisa indistinct] 888 00:49:48,403 --> 00:49:50,723 After the boats right here. Have to avoid them. 889 00:49:56,123 --> 00:49:59,403 [Lisa] The fact that she couldn't come home, that she couldn't see us-- 890 00:50:00,123 --> 00:50:03,163 I think that really shook her. 891 00:50:14,563 --> 00:50:17,723 Oh, it's so, so pretty. 892 00:50:17,803 --> 00:50:19,363 Oh, so pretty. 893 00:50:23,523 --> 00:50:25,043 [Kodi] Oh, beautiful. 894 00:50:25,883 --> 00:50:26,963 Oh, it's nice. 895 00:50:27,043 --> 00:50:28,083 [Lisa] Is it nice? 896 00:50:28,163 --> 00:50:28,963 Very nice. 897 00:50:35,083 --> 00:50:39,163 [Tayla] This is the Morten Island sand dune, or Tangalooma sand dune, 898 00:50:39,243 --> 00:50:41,643 and since I can remember since I was really little, 899 00:50:41,723 --> 00:50:46,283 we would run up, throw ourselves down. There we go again, up and down, 900 00:50:46,803 --> 00:50:50,283 and it's just like-- it's like a ritual. Every time we come here we have to do it. 901 00:50:50,883 --> 00:50:54,203 We bring new people. Kodi came for the first time last year. 902 00:50:54,283 --> 00:50:57,483 And then you just... sacrifice into the sand. 903 00:51:14,243 --> 00:51:19,483 This almost exact time last year I was in a completely different headspace. 904 00:51:19,563 --> 00:51:23,963 I had just experienced the full impact of lockdown. 905 00:51:25,483 --> 00:51:28,083 I remember being here and thinking, oh, I've gotta go back next week. 906 00:51:28,403 --> 00:51:34,403 Back to lockdown, start training, and I'm not feeling fit enough. 907 00:51:38,523 --> 00:51:40,363 And I wasn't at a level... 908 00:51:41,363 --> 00:51:43,843 where I felt confidence coming into pre-season, 909 00:51:44,483 --> 00:51:46,603 because this year is the complete opposite. 910 00:51:46,683 --> 00:51:47,803 Like, I've never felt fitter. 911 00:51:48,683 --> 00:51:52,763 It takes a long time to gain, but it takes nothing at all to lose. 912 00:51:53,283 --> 00:51:55,403 [indistinct horseplay] 913 00:51:57,003 --> 00:51:58,203 Okay. I'm done. 914 00:52:18,643 --> 00:52:19,763 Rarrrr! 915 00:52:50,843 --> 00:52:53,883 [indistinct] yet the outcome we want is the best opportunity to score, 916 00:52:53,963 --> 00:52:55,323 which is that deeper entry.