1 00:00:08,634 --> 00:00:10,636 [dramatic music playing] 2 00:00:15,308 --> 00:00:17,310 [audience cheering] 3 00:00:33,284 --> 00:00:36,579 [audience chanting] Britney! Britney! Britney! 4 00:00:36,662 --> 00:00:39,248 Britney! Britney! Britney! 5 00:00:41,334 --> 00:00:43,336 [crowd screaming] 6 00:00:47,048 --> 00:00:49,092 Britney! Britney! Britney! 7 00:00:49,175 --> 00:00:50,927 Britney! Britney! Britney! 8 00:00:54,347 --> 00:00:56,432 Britney! Britney! Britney! 9 00:00:56,516 --> 00:01:00,144 Britney! Britney! Britney! 10 00:01:01,395 --> 00:01:03,397 [pensive music playing] 11 00:01:06,150 --> 00:01:09,070 [Britney] When I was 8, my mom realized I could sing. 12 00:01:09,153 --> 00:01:10,488 I've always wanted to sing. 13 00:01:10,571 --> 00:01:12,615 It's just something I've always wanted to do. 14 00:01:12,698 --> 00:01:14,951 Five, six, seven, eight, nine… 15 00:01:15,034 --> 00:01:17,703 [woman 1] It's not just luck. Everybody needs a little bit of luck. 16 00:01:17,787 --> 00:01:20,373 But it's literally an Olympian level 17 00:01:20,456 --> 00:01:23,209 of talent and hard work that goes into that. 18 00:01:23,876 --> 00:01:26,504 [woman 2] Everything about her was strong and fearless. 19 00:01:26,587 --> 00:01:28,548 I mean, there was no stopping her. 20 00:01:29,632 --> 00:01:33,803 [woman 3] It all exploded after Britney became famous. 21 00:01:33,886 --> 00:01:36,681 [woman 4] Suddenly, she was spiraling out of control, 22 00:01:36,764 --> 00:01:39,600 and it was clear she was having a crisis. 23 00:01:39,684 --> 00:01:41,936 [reporter] Are you concerned for your daughter, Mr. Spears? 24 00:01:42,019 --> 00:01:45,022 [woman 4] What began as temporary control over her life 25 00:01:45,106 --> 00:01:48,025 and her money and her business became permanent. 26 00:01:48,693 --> 00:01:52,113 [woman 3] They felt they had to do it to protect Britney. 27 00:01:52,196 --> 00:01:54,407 [man 1] Britney is no longer a free person. 28 00:01:54,490 --> 00:01:56,993 [woman 2] She doesn't have basic human rights. 29 00:01:57,076 --> 00:01:59,537 She can't write a check or have a credit card. 30 00:01:59,620 --> 00:02:02,623 [man 2] If she doesn't behave, she loses custody of her kids. 31 00:02:04,167 --> 00:02:07,253 [man 3] There's other people that've tried to help. They've paid a heavy price. 32 00:02:08,671 --> 00:02:12,175 [woman 2] She is limited on how she can voice her wishes. 33 00:02:13,050 --> 00:02:16,804 [Britney] I just want my life back. And it's been 13 years and it's enough. 34 00:02:36,282 --> 00:02:37,992 [video call ringing] 35 00:02:40,661 --> 00:02:45,499 All right, so let's do our least favorite thing in the world, 36 00:02:45,583 --> 00:02:49,253 which just means calling random strangers and saying, 37 00:02:49,337 --> 00:02:51,464 "Hey, can you talk to me about Britney Spears?" 38 00:02:51,547 --> 00:02:53,841 [line ringing] 39 00:02:54,550 --> 00:02:55,426 [voicemail beeps] 40 00:02:55,509 --> 00:02:59,055 Hi, Kim, my name is Erin Lee Carr, and I'm a documentary filmmaker. 41 00:02:59,138 --> 00:03:02,266 I'm directing a project about Britney. 42 00:03:03,434 --> 00:03:06,771 Two years ago, I began making a movie about Britney Spears 43 00:03:06,854 --> 00:03:08,356 with journalist Jenny Eliscu. 44 00:03:08,439 --> 00:03:11,150 -[voicemail beeps] -Hey, this is Jenny Eliscu. 45 00:03:11,234 --> 00:03:14,237 I'm not sure if you remember me from, uh, years ago. 46 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:18,282 We met when I was working on a Rolling Stone article about Britney. 47 00:03:18,366 --> 00:03:21,535 [Carr] The movie was going to be about her artistry and the media portrayal. 48 00:03:22,161 --> 00:03:24,997 And can someone say wow to those dance moves? 49 00:03:25,915 --> 00:03:28,459 [emotional music playing] 50 00:03:31,963 --> 00:03:35,424 But the story was also about power and control. 51 00:03:36,592 --> 00:03:38,970 Full of conspiracy and rumors. 52 00:03:39,053 --> 00:03:40,680 And no one would talk. 53 00:03:43,516 --> 00:03:44,517 Until they did. 54 00:03:49,438 --> 00:03:51,774 I was 10 when Britney came on the scene. 55 00:03:53,109 --> 00:03:57,154 I remember grabbing the CD with a flower on it that's Baby One More Time 56 00:03:57,238 --> 00:03:58,823 and putting it into my boombox. 57 00:03:58,906 --> 00:03:59,824 ["Sometimes" playing] 58 00:03:59,907 --> 00:04:01,993 You know, my dad would knock on the door. 59 00:04:02,076 --> 00:04:05,705 And he said, "Why are you listening to this over and over again?" 60 00:04:05,788 --> 00:04:09,250 -["…Baby One More Time" playing] -I was obsessed. 61 00:04:11,210 --> 00:04:13,963 ♪ Hit me, baby, one more time ♪ 62 00:04:14,046 --> 00:04:16,632 [audience cheering] 63 00:04:16,716 --> 00:04:17,842 [all] Britney! Britney! 64 00:04:17,925 --> 00:04:18,801 I love her. 65 00:04:19,802 --> 00:04:24,598 [Carr] At 16 years old, Britney was a sensation and she was no one-hit wonder. 66 00:04:24,682 --> 00:04:31,564 From 1998 to 2003, her worldwide record sales totaled over $73 million. 67 00:04:33,649 --> 00:04:36,193 Britney had a work ethic like none other, 68 00:04:36,277 --> 00:04:38,446 but she's never been motivated by money. 69 00:04:38,529 --> 00:04:41,115 She just was doing something she loved. 70 00:04:41,198 --> 00:04:45,161 [woman 5] She was in control and involved in every process. 71 00:04:45,244 --> 00:04:49,290 I'm open to ideas. If they come up with something better, then heck, I'll do it. 72 00:04:49,373 --> 00:04:51,959 [woman 5] She was like, "I'm the boss. I'm gonna do what I want." 73 00:04:52,752 --> 00:04:56,380 You can see, like, that girl is just on fire. 74 00:04:56,464 --> 00:05:01,218 ♪ I'm a slave for you ♪ 75 00:05:01,844 --> 00:05:05,514 [Britney] The best thing about being famous is knowing that, financially, 76 00:05:05,598 --> 00:05:08,267 I'll be able to support my family, no matter what. 77 00:05:08,351 --> 00:05:09,352 [woman] Britney Spears! 78 00:05:09,435 --> 00:05:14,648 [Carr] By 2004, she was one of the biggest selling female artists of her generation. 79 00:05:14,732 --> 00:05:16,025 Hit after hit. 80 00:05:16,108 --> 00:05:18,652 The world couldn't get enough of Britney. 81 00:05:23,866 --> 00:05:26,160 [camera shutters clicking] 82 00:05:26,243 --> 00:05:29,330 Then, suddenly, Britney stopped making music. 83 00:05:29,413 --> 00:05:33,000 She fell in love with a backup dancer, Kevin Federline. 84 00:05:34,627 --> 00:05:37,880 On a transatlantic flight, Britney proposed to Kevin. 85 00:05:41,008 --> 00:05:43,719 They got married and quickly had two children. 86 00:05:44,762 --> 00:05:49,350 But two years later, the marriage was over and Britney had filed for divorce. 87 00:05:49,433 --> 00:05:51,852 It's the biggest news in the country, ladies and gentlemen. 88 00:05:51,936 --> 00:05:54,814 Britney Spears is leaving K-Fed! 89 00:05:54,897 --> 00:05:56,899 [all cheering] 90 00:05:57,775 --> 00:05:59,610 Confetti! 91 00:06:00,861 --> 00:06:03,864 [Carr] Britney was out on the town, looking as confident as ever. 92 00:06:03,948 --> 00:06:06,450 Now hopefully, with her divorce almost finalized, 93 00:06:06,534 --> 00:06:08,911 she would get back to performing for us. 94 00:06:11,914 --> 00:06:15,167 But what seemed like the beginning of her regaining control… 95 00:06:16,919 --> 00:06:18,170 was really the end. 96 00:06:20,965 --> 00:06:22,967 [pensive music playing] 97 00:06:28,389 --> 00:06:30,766 The very first time I was assigned Britney, 98 00:06:30,850 --> 00:06:34,061 she was in the middle of this divorce with Kevin. 99 00:06:34,145 --> 00:06:36,939 I was working for an agency, okay? 100 00:06:37,022 --> 00:06:39,859 They gave me the address. They said, "Sit outside the house." 101 00:06:39,942 --> 00:06:41,819 "When she comes out, follow her." 102 00:06:43,863 --> 00:06:46,699 My job was to take pictures of her, right? 103 00:06:47,992 --> 00:06:51,579 That period, I was a photographer, and, you know, I was good at it. 104 00:06:52,246 --> 00:06:54,999 I excelled and I learned the job real quick. 105 00:06:55,082 --> 00:06:56,750 [paparazzi yelling] 106 00:06:57,793 --> 00:07:04,341 This is a job for adrenaline junkies and those with a gambling addiction. 107 00:07:04,884 --> 00:07:07,970 There's nothing sexier than waking up and they say, 108 00:07:08,053 --> 00:07:09,263 "This is your assignment." 109 00:07:09,346 --> 00:07:11,223 You open it up and don't know who it is. 110 00:07:11,307 --> 00:07:14,685 Male, female, actor, singer, sports celebrity. 111 00:07:14,768 --> 00:07:16,604 So, as a photographer, 112 00:07:16,687 --> 00:07:21,025 you can get a few hundred thousand dollars for a picture of Britney. 113 00:07:23,110 --> 00:07:24,612 [Eliscu] At the time of the divorce, 114 00:07:24,695 --> 00:07:27,656 Britney was relentlessly chased by the paparazzi. 115 00:07:28,491 --> 00:07:31,619 At the same time, she had friendships with some of them. 116 00:07:32,995 --> 00:07:33,996 [Ghalib] Beautiful. 117 00:07:34,705 --> 00:07:36,790 One night, the agency calls me 118 00:07:36,874 --> 00:07:39,001 and tells me the gas station that Britney's at. 119 00:07:39,084 --> 00:07:40,294 I drive down there. 120 00:07:40,377 --> 00:07:43,422 At the gas station, everyone's taking pictures. 121 00:07:44,924 --> 00:07:46,634 Twenty dollars' worth of gas. 122 00:07:46,717 --> 00:07:49,136 [Ghalib] She was having problems with the gas. 123 00:07:49,220 --> 00:07:50,304 You want me to fill it? 124 00:07:50,846 --> 00:07:53,224 I asked Britney, "Can I help you?" 125 00:07:53,807 --> 00:07:55,935 So I start doing it. 126 00:08:00,773 --> 00:08:04,944 And then, one day a photographer calls me and says, "Britney's asking for you." 127 00:08:05,027 --> 00:08:06,654 "What do you mean, she's asking for me?" 128 00:08:06,737 --> 00:08:10,199 Then another photographer calls me who doesn't know the first photographer. 129 00:08:10,282 --> 00:08:12,910 And he's like, "Hey, bro. Britney's asking for you." 130 00:08:13,494 --> 00:08:15,371 -Where's--? You, come here. -[man] Back it up. 131 00:08:15,454 --> 00:08:18,457 [Ghalib] She felt better if I was present. She felt safer. 132 00:08:18,541 --> 00:08:20,084 Those are her words, not mine. 133 00:08:21,710 --> 00:08:23,629 [whispering] Where's Adnan? 134 00:08:23,712 --> 00:08:25,047 [man] He's off. 135 00:08:25,130 --> 00:08:26,507 He's out today. 136 00:08:26,590 --> 00:08:27,967 I'll let him know. 137 00:08:31,887 --> 00:08:36,809 [Ghalib] It was a very simple, very easy relationship, you know? 138 00:08:37,434 --> 00:08:41,480 But between her fans and everybody else, it was like I was the bad guy. 139 00:08:43,065 --> 00:08:44,441 Oh, my Lord. 140 00:08:44,525 --> 00:08:48,320 [Ghalib] Like that Disney story, you always want the Prince Charming to be 141 00:08:48,404 --> 00:08:52,575 as equally as attractive and equally as beautiful and equally as charming. 142 00:08:52,658 --> 00:08:54,618 We didn't have that balance. 143 00:08:54,702 --> 00:08:57,621 There was this multimillionaire and me. 144 00:08:57,705 --> 00:08:58,581 [indistinct chatter] 145 00:08:58,664 --> 00:09:02,042 And then there was this famous girl, and then there was me. 146 00:09:02,876 --> 00:09:05,921 There was this white girl, and there was me. 147 00:09:07,798 --> 00:09:10,134 There were nights where she was up 148 00:09:10,217 --> 00:09:12,761 and I had to stay up with her, and it's hard. 149 00:09:12,845 --> 00:09:14,722 To stay up for three days, it's hard, 150 00:09:14,805 --> 00:09:17,516 but you have that fear, it's a very real fear, 151 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,518 that if anything happens to her, 152 00:09:20,102 --> 00:09:23,147 they're just gonna blame you. It's just so much easier to blame you. 153 00:09:25,149 --> 00:09:27,693 She was taking Adderall. 154 00:09:27,776 --> 00:09:32,031 I'm sure x-amount of millions of people are taking Adderall. 155 00:09:32,114 --> 00:09:37,828 But these are the things that become volatile and deadly weapons 156 00:09:37,911 --> 00:09:40,789 when you're going through a child custody case. 157 00:09:43,834 --> 00:09:45,919 [woman] Hi, Adnan, how are you? 158 00:09:46,587 --> 00:09:49,465 Are you okay? Are you guys in love? 159 00:09:49,548 --> 00:09:51,550 [dramatic music playing] 160 00:09:59,391 --> 00:10:02,895 [Ghalib] What was apparent to me during this divorce with Kevin 161 00:10:02,978 --> 00:10:06,565 was, you know, she never had one person she could trust, not one. 162 00:10:06,649 --> 00:10:10,027 Not Mom, not Dad, not friends, not her sister. 163 00:10:10,110 --> 00:10:11,445 Anybody. 164 00:10:11,528 --> 00:10:15,240 And that's a very scary, dark place to be. 165 00:10:16,825 --> 00:10:19,328 [dramatic music playing] 166 00:10:25,501 --> 00:10:31,215 The hearing this afternoon had to do with a continued interim, 167 00:10:31,298 --> 00:10:32,966 or temporary order, 168 00:10:33,050 --> 00:10:37,971 that was based on Mr. Federline's original request to modify custody. 169 00:10:38,055 --> 00:10:40,557 [man] Hold on. Hey, hey. Get back. Get back, sir. 170 00:10:40,641 --> 00:10:43,477 -[man 1] You guys have got to get back. -[man 2] Britney! 171 00:10:43,560 --> 00:10:45,020 [man 3] We love you, Britney! 172 00:10:45,938 --> 00:10:49,483 [Carr] By 2007, Britney's divorce from Kevin was heating up. 173 00:10:50,776 --> 00:10:54,905 What many thought would be a simple case, guided by a strong prenuptial agreement, 174 00:10:54,988 --> 00:10:56,949 now seemed to be in question. 175 00:10:57,032 --> 00:11:02,079 Ironclad prenup's a little bit like the Titanic could never sink. 176 00:11:02,162 --> 00:11:06,291 For every ironclad prenup, there's a group of attorneys out there 177 00:11:06,375 --> 00:11:07,918 that will try to tear it apart. 178 00:11:08,544 --> 00:11:11,296 [Eliscu] Mark Vincent Kaplan, he's the K-Fed lawyer. 179 00:11:11,380 --> 00:11:15,509 He's like this kind of old guard, bigtime custody lawyer 180 00:11:15,592 --> 00:11:19,388 you might call in a contentious divorce custody case. 181 00:11:19,471 --> 00:11:22,349 He seemed to love being the spokesperson 182 00:11:22,433 --> 00:11:26,186 for this high-profile divorce and custody case. 183 00:11:26,270 --> 00:11:29,857 And he definitely has a flair for making a public statement. 184 00:11:29,940 --> 00:11:35,028 The ultimate attack is, how are the children doing? 185 00:11:35,112 --> 00:11:37,072 How safe are the children? 186 00:11:37,156 --> 00:11:39,616 The kids become just pawns. 187 00:11:39,700 --> 00:11:44,747 Kevin is concerned that the more time that the children are with him, 188 00:11:44,830 --> 00:11:47,166 he feels the more insulated they are from, uh… 189 00:11:48,625 --> 00:11:52,463 risks that would otherwise be constantly visited upon them. 190 00:11:53,130 --> 00:11:57,468 People that care about the children will provide information 191 00:11:57,551 --> 00:12:00,220 that is relevant to their best interest. 192 00:12:00,304 --> 00:12:03,932 There's nothing new, no new facts, there's not an emergency? 193 00:12:04,016 --> 00:12:05,476 All of those things are true. 194 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,354 I'd represented high-profile people and celebrities before, 195 00:12:09,438 --> 00:12:14,610 but this was an order of magnitude far different than anything I'd experienced. 196 00:12:14,693 --> 00:12:19,531 And I had to hit the deck running and learn how to work with the media 197 00:12:19,615 --> 00:12:22,242 so that they weren't working against my client. 198 00:12:24,203 --> 00:12:26,955 Kevin had been treated pretty unfairly. 199 00:12:27,039 --> 00:12:29,792 They were saying, "He's an unconcerned parent." 200 00:12:29,875 --> 00:12:34,671 Other people were saying, "Oh, he's just merely a gold digger." 201 00:12:34,755 --> 00:12:37,424 He was in a position of not being able to win. 202 00:12:37,508 --> 00:12:39,760 Damned if he did, damned if he didn't. 203 00:12:39,843 --> 00:12:42,596 [Carr] People wanted to sort of speak ill of him or use him as a joke. 204 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:43,847 Why'd you think that was? 205 00:12:43,931 --> 00:12:49,686 Well, keep in mind when Kevin and Britney first got married, 206 00:12:49,770 --> 00:12:55,192 she was America's sweetheart. And in many respects, she still is. 207 00:12:55,275 --> 00:13:01,240 And they saw Kevin as someone who in their view, whoever "their" is, 208 00:13:01,323 --> 00:13:05,994 wasn't worthy of having that unique relationship with America's sweetheart. 209 00:13:06,495 --> 00:13:10,582 They attempted to penalize him for that as much as they could and they-- 210 00:13:10,666 --> 00:13:12,292 The press was brutal. 211 00:13:12,376 --> 00:13:15,045 But as the case progressed, 212 00:13:15,587 --> 00:13:18,882 um, I think she did certain things 213 00:13:18,966 --> 00:13:23,470 that the press found worthy of a media frenzy. 214 00:13:23,554 --> 00:13:25,556 [eerie music playing] 215 00:13:30,185 --> 00:13:34,606 [Carr] As the custody case was battled out in court, the media frenzy only grew. 216 00:13:36,358 --> 00:13:39,987 Everyone seemed to have opinion about Britney Spears. 217 00:13:40,070 --> 00:13:42,406 The media focused less on her music 218 00:13:42,489 --> 00:13:44,825 and more on the way that she was living her life. 219 00:13:47,661 --> 00:13:51,957 Britney cycled through legal teams, and became more and more isolated. 220 00:13:52,499 --> 00:13:56,378 There was a period of estrangement between Britney and both of her parents 221 00:13:56,461 --> 00:13:59,089 by fall of 2007. 222 00:13:59,172 --> 00:14:01,800 I don't know how long the estrangements were, where-- 223 00:14:01,884 --> 00:14:04,011 Whether there was maybe sporadic communication, 224 00:14:04,094 --> 00:14:07,180 but some sources I spoke to talked about Britney 225 00:14:07,264 --> 00:14:10,642 having a fear that her family would barge in, 226 00:14:10,726 --> 00:14:15,022 I think is how it was put, and take everything. 227 00:14:15,105 --> 00:14:20,360 I mean, and that's, you know, that's how-slash-when Sam Lutfi got in. 228 00:14:21,236 --> 00:14:22,487 [Carr] Who is Sam Lutfi? 229 00:14:22,571 --> 00:14:27,868 [Eliscu] Sam Lutfi is the person frequently blamed by both of her parents 230 00:14:27,951 --> 00:14:30,287 for her public downfall. 231 00:14:32,414 --> 00:14:34,833 [Carr] There was a lot of controversy around Sam Lutfi 232 00:14:34,917 --> 00:14:38,045 and what role he played in this brief period of Britney's life. 233 00:14:39,463 --> 00:14:43,592 First question. Can you please introduce yourself to us? 234 00:14:44,176 --> 00:14:47,054 -Uh, I'm Sam Lutfi. -And who are you? 235 00:14:48,263 --> 00:14:50,891 I'm Britney Spears's former manager. 236 00:14:52,434 --> 00:14:56,021 [Carr] But in court documents newly discovered from Britney's divorce, 237 00:14:56,104 --> 00:14:59,107 she testified that he was just her "friend sometimes." 238 00:14:59,900 --> 00:15:01,944 Somebody who helped "get groceries." 239 00:15:07,491 --> 00:15:10,577 In that time period, he went from being the sometimes friend 240 00:15:10,661 --> 00:15:12,996 to somebody calling the shots. 241 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,583 [Lutfi] We met at a bar. We started talking. 242 00:15:16,667 --> 00:15:18,210 She was very funny. 243 00:15:18,293 --> 00:15:20,462 Uh, we had a great conversation. 244 00:15:21,046 --> 00:15:25,050 Um, she had asked me if I'd seen things that were in the press. 245 00:15:25,133 --> 00:15:29,262 I said, "Of course. Like, who hasn't?" You know, making light of the situation. 246 00:15:29,346 --> 00:15:31,139 She asked for my phone number. 247 00:15:31,723 --> 00:15:34,226 And then left and I never thought I was gonna hear from her again. 248 00:15:34,309 --> 00:15:37,604 Then I get a call from her one night and she tells me, 249 00:15:37,688 --> 00:15:38,689 "I need your help." 250 00:15:38,772 --> 00:15:40,607 [woman] Hey, guys. Just be careful. 251 00:15:40,691 --> 00:15:42,609 [man] Just clear this side for a second. 252 00:15:42,693 --> 00:15:47,280 [Lutfi] You could see that the divorce was impacting her a lot. 253 00:15:47,364 --> 00:15:49,783 And my question to her the whole time was, 254 00:15:50,784 --> 00:15:53,245 "I think the best thing would be to have your family around." 255 00:15:53,328 --> 00:15:55,205 "There's nothing like having your mom around." 256 00:15:55,288 --> 00:15:59,835 That's how it is in my life, but I was just projecting that onto that. 257 00:16:00,460 --> 00:16:02,546 Um, and she would just say, 258 00:16:02,629 --> 00:16:06,466 "My relationship is not like your relationship with your family." 259 00:16:06,550 --> 00:16:09,386 I thought, "What's the issue?" And so she would-- 260 00:16:09,469 --> 00:16:11,346 We would talk about Lynne, 261 00:16:11,972 --> 00:16:13,724 uh, in depth. 262 00:16:13,807 --> 00:16:16,852 So there was numerous issues that were going on. 263 00:16:17,561 --> 00:16:19,813 [Carr] And how was her father Jamie involved? 264 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:21,648 Not at all. 265 00:16:21,732 --> 00:16:24,860 Was it a short amount of time, a long amount of time? 266 00:16:25,694 --> 00:16:27,904 Uh, from what I believe, it's been years. 267 00:16:28,780 --> 00:16:30,782 [paparazzi clamoring] 268 00:16:32,993 --> 00:16:35,412 [Carr] In the eye of the storm that was 2007, 269 00:16:35,495 --> 00:16:39,666 Britney was still able to record and produce an entire studio record. 270 00:16:39,750 --> 00:16:41,001 ♪ It's Britney, bitch ♪ 271 00:16:41,084 --> 00:16:42,836 ["Gimme More" playing] 272 00:16:42,919 --> 00:16:46,548 [Carr] The album was Blackout and it sold in the millions. 273 00:16:46,631 --> 00:16:48,592 It is widely considered her best work. 274 00:16:49,676 --> 00:16:51,136 ["Break the Ice" playing] 275 00:16:51,219 --> 00:16:54,598 The music and the videos from Blackout portrayed a pop-y version 276 00:16:54,681 --> 00:16:57,726 of what had become the story of Britney's real life. 277 00:16:59,019 --> 00:17:01,688 A woman hunted and often on the run. 278 00:17:01,772 --> 00:17:04,316 -[camera shutter clicks] -[ominous music playing] 279 00:17:04,399 --> 00:17:07,819 This would foreshadow a much darker turn for Britney. 280 00:17:07,903 --> 00:17:11,281 There are paparazzi images of Britney in 2007 281 00:17:11,865 --> 00:17:14,284 that have been seen millions of times. 282 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,246 These images are often coupled with headlines like, 283 00:17:18,330 --> 00:17:20,999 "Meltdown" or "Rock Bottom." 284 00:17:22,084 --> 00:17:25,087 Looking back, you can see she was just a person, 285 00:17:26,254 --> 00:17:27,923 a person who needed help. 286 00:17:31,134 --> 00:17:33,136 [haunting music playing] 287 00:17:38,892 --> 00:17:41,937 Throughout that year, paparazzi continued to follow Britney aggressively 288 00:17:42,020 --> 00:17:43,647 around Los Angeles. 289 00:17:48,819 --> 00:17:50,028 [woman] She's crazy. 290 00:17:51,196 --> 00:17:52,364 Oh, my God. 291 00:17:55,992 --> 00:17:58,120 [Carr] She drove at high speeds to avoid them, 292 00:17:58,203 --> 00:18:00,497 sometimes running red lights. 293 00:18:00,580 --> 00:18:03,834 There were concerns that if these car chases continued, 294 00:18:03,917 --> 00:18:06,294 something terrible could happen. 295 00:18:11,049 --> 00:18:14,761 A lot of people argue 296 00:18:14,845 --> 00:18:17,806 that she was crazy, right? 297 00:18:17,889 --> 00:18:20,559 You know, and I fucking hate that word. 298 00:18:20,642 --> 00:18:23,478 Would you say she was upset, would you say she was angry, 299 00:18:23,562 --> 00:18:25,438 or would you say she was hurt? 300 00:18:25,522 --> 00:18:27,649 I'd choose all of them before I'd choose crazy. 301 00:18:43,206 --> 00:18:45,208 [helicopter whirring] 302 00:18:47,836 --> 00:18:49,838 [sirens wailing] 303 00:18:50,547 --> 00:18:52,549 [dramatic music playing] 304 00:19:04,436 --> 00:19:08,773 [Carr] In January 2008, police were called to Britney's residence. 305 00:19:08,857 --> 00:19:10,942 She had locked herself in a room, 306 00:19:11,026 --> 00:19:14,446 refusing to turn over the children to Federline's bodyguard 307 00:19:14,529 --> 00:19:16,448 at the court appointed time. 308 00:19:21,578 --> 00:19:23,705 [siren wailing] 309 00:20:05,789 --> 00:20:06,790 [man] Listen up! 310 00:20:06,873 --> 00:20:09,042 Cedar Sinai, this is their property, 311 00:20:09,125 --> 00:20:12,003 including the sidewalk that you are standing on. 312 00:20:12,087 --> 00:20:13,505 I need to you to move. 313 00:20:15,423 --> 00:20:19,594 [Carr] At the hospital there was Kevin, Mark Vincent Kaplan, his lawyer, 314 00:20:20,804 --> 00:20:21,972 and Britney's father. 315 00:20:24,140 --> 00:20:27,269 Britney's parents had been divorced since 2002. 316 00:20:28,603 --> 00:20:30,397 [Culotta] Britney was so close with her mother. 317 00:20:31,064 --> 00:20:32,274 When we were on tour, 318 00:20:32,357 --> 00:20:34,526 I mean, she and Lynne talked at least-- 319 00:20:34,609 --> 00:20:37,529 Oh, gosh. At the very least, two or three times a day. 320 00:20:37,612 --> 00:20:39,406 [Carr] And what about her dad, Jamie? 321 00:20:39,489 --> 00:20:43,785 Okay, I don't wanna talk about her daddy. I don't wanna talk about Jamie. 322 00:20:43,868 --> 00:20:45,036 Um… 323 00:20:45,662 --> 00:20:49,833 The reason I don't-- I will tell you this just so we'll know. 324 00:20:49,916 --> 00:20:53,295 Jamie wasn't with us very often, hardly ever. 325 00:20:53,795 --> 00:20:56,381 Um, so it really was me and Lynne. 326 00:20:57,257 --> 00:21:00,385 [Carr] A few days after Britney was released from the hospital, 327 00:21:00,468 --> 00:21:01,761 a new figure emerged. 328 00:21:02,595 --> 00:21:04,681 Her name was Louise Taylor. 329 00:21:04,764 --> 00:21:08,893 And she went on The Today Show as a spokesperson for the Spears family. 330 00:21:10,270 --> 00:21:12,230 [Taylor] What I would like to say is that 331 00:21:12,314 --> 00:21:15,984 I really feel like people just do not know the Spears family. 332 00:21:16,067 --> 00:21:19,321 What they don't know about Jamie and Lynne Spears is that every day, 333 00:21:19,404 --> 00:21:21,906 Jamie goes to work as a professional chef, 334 00:21:21,990 --> 00:21:25,869 asking the Lord to give him the strength to honor the people he works for 335 00:21:25,952 --> 00:21:29,539 in the midst of circumstances, that Lynne Spears is a mother 336 00:21:29,622 --> 00:21:32,917 that is brokenhearted just because she's apart from her daughter. 337 00:21:33,001 --> 00:21:34,919 She loves her daughter so much. 338 00:21:35,003 --> 00:21:38,923 And again, asking every day for God to give her strength 339 00:21:39,007 --> 00:21:41,217 and for her to continue to have hope. 340 00:21:41,301 --> 00:21:45,930 I mean, I'm so disturbed, Meredith, where we've gotten to be as a people, 341 00:21:46,014 --> 00:21:49,851 the morbidity of us watching the depravity of people suffering, 342 00:21:49,934 --> 00:21:52,103 than to rally around and be hopeful. 343 00:21:52,187 --> 00:21:55,982 So, really, for, I guess, for me to be self-indulgent for a moment, 344 00:21:56,066 --> 00:21:59,652 that I would really hope that all those who seek God for strength in their life 345 00:21:59,736 --> 00:22:03,198 would be interceding for this family because Jamie Spears, 346 00:22:03,281 --> 00:22:06,034 Lynne Spears, Bryan, and Jamie Lynn Spears 347 00:22:06,117 --> 00:22:08,244 are all amazing people. 348 00:22:09,829 --> 00:22:13,666 [Carr] From what I'd seen, no one had ever spoken on behalf of the Spears. 349 00:22:14,959 --> 00:22:16,503 [Carr] Who is Lou Taylor? 350 00:22:16,586 --> 00:22:18,421 I will not touch that one. 351 00:22:20,256 --> 00:22:21,633 Sorry. 352 00:22:21,716 --> 00:22:24,844 She will chew me up and spit me out. [chuckles] 353 00:22:25,762 --> 00:22:27,764 [paparazzi chattering] 354 00:22:28,848 --> 00:22:31,476 [Carr] The custody suit grew more contentious 355 00:22:31,559 --> 00:22:36,064 when the judge gave Kevin Federline full custody of the two boys. 356 00:22:36,147 --> 00:22:39,317 Soon thereafter, Britney would return to the hospital 357 00:22:39,401 --> 00:22:42,404 under another involuntary psychiatric hold. 358 00:22:42,487 --> 00:22:45,615 [man] Mr. Spears, what's going on? How's Britney doing? 359 00:22:47,700 --> 00:22:49,619 Can you give us any word, any news on Britney? 360 00:22:51,162 --> 00:22:54,624 [Carr] Jamie Spears petitioned the State of California probate court 361 00:22:54,707 --> 00:22:56,418 for a new legal arrangement. 362 00:22:58,461 --> 00:23:00,964 It was called a conservatorship. 363 00:23:04,134 --> 00:23:06,136 [dramatic music playing] 364 00:23:19,482 --> 00:23:23,236 [Eliscu] I started working at Rolling Stone in '99. 365 00:23:23,319 --> 00:23:26,990 Britney was my second-ever cover story. 366 00:23:27,073 --> 00:23:30,368 I didn't give a shit about Britney Spears or pop music personally. 367 00:23:30,452 --> 00:23:33,121 It's not something I paid attention to at all. 368 00:23:33,663 --> 00:23:39,461 Then I met her, and she was just so likable and sweet. 369 00:23:40,462 --> 00:23:44,591 So, in late 2008, when I was assigned to do another cover story 370 00:23:44,674 --> 00:23:46,551 on Britney for Rolling Stone, 371 00:23:46,634 --> 00:23:50,555 I was excited 'cause I love her and hadn't seen her in a few years. 372 00:23:50,638 --> 00:23:52,599 And in spite of all of the drama, 373 00:23:52,682 --> 00:23:55,310 I was just picturing it the same way it always would be, 374 00:23:55,393 --> 00:23:57,729 and, you know, went to L.A. 375 00:23:57,812 --> 00:24:02,233 ready to spend some time and started to get told by the label 376 00:24:02,317 --> 00:24:04,486 that I'd have to submit my questions ahead of time. 377 00:24:04,569 --> 00:24:08,364 I said to the publicist, "But it's me, me and Britney." 378 00:24:08,448 --> 00:24:12,035 And she would say, "Oh, you know, we know Britney loves you, 379 00:24:12,118 --> 00:24:15,079 but we just-- The conservatorship, we've got to." 380 00:24:15,955 --> 00:24:18,416 I was like, "What the fuck is a conservatorship?" 381 00:24:23,338 --> 00:24:29,844 A conservatorship is a legal process for taking somebody's ability 382 00:24:29,928 --> 00:24:32,347 to make their own decisions away from them 383 00:24:32,430 --> 00:24:36,184 and giving them to some third party, aka their conservator, 384 00:24:36,267 --> 00:24:38,520 or in other states, it's the guardian. 385 00:24:40,313 --> 00:24:44,234 Obviously, any process to deprive someone of those liberties 386 00:24:44,317 --> 00:24:46,319 and those freedoms would be something 387 00:24:46,402 --> 00:24:49,614 we'd want to impose very rarely, only as a last resort, 388 00:24:49,697 --> 00:24:52,492 having tried and exhausted all other alternatives. 389 00:24:53,076 --> 00:24:57,163 Some people have called conservatorship tantamount to a civil death. 390 00:24:59,541 --> 00:25:01,334 There's conservatorship of the person, 391 00:25:01,417 --> 00:25:04,212 which is allowing someone else to make your decisions 392 00:25:04,295 --> 00:25:06,506 related to your personal affairs. 393 00:25:06,589 --> 00:25:10,385 They lose the ability to decide anything related to their healthcare, 394 00:25:10,468 --> 00:25:13,721 so their ability to provide or withhold informed consent 395 00:25:13,805 --> 00:25:17,642 for treatments, including drugs, is taken away from them. 396 00:25:17,725 --> 00:25:19,602 And, in many cases, they lose their right 397 00:25:19,686 --> 00:25:22,355 to decide who to visit with or receive visits from. 398 00:25:22,438 --> 00:25:25,525 They lose their right to communicate with people of their choosing 399 00:25:25,608 --> 00:25:27,443 over the telephone, over the computer. 400 00:25:28,903 --> 00:25:30,572 For a conservatorship of the estate, 401 00:25:30,655 --> 00:25:33,533 which often goes with the conservatorship of the person, 402 00:25:33,616 --> 00:25:35,702 they're no longer in charge of their money, 403 00:25:35,785 --> 00:25:39,163 theoretically, even the $10 they might have in their pocket. 404 00:25:39,247 --> 00:25:40,498 [camera shutter clicks] 405 00:25:40,582 --> 00:25:43,918 [Eliscu] Jamie was made the sole conservator of the person. 406 00:25:44,002 --> 00:25:46,421 He had to share the conservatorship of the estate 407 00:25:46,504 --> 00:25:49,549 with a court-appointed attorney named Andrew Wallet. 408 00:25:53,052 --> 00:25:56,347 You had Jamie who had bankruptcy issues 409 00:25:56,431 --> 00:25:59,517 and financial mismanagement of his own life, 410 00:25:59,601 --> 00:26:03,396 and they said, "We have Andrew Wallet here as the co-conservator, 411 00:26:03,479 --> 00:26:05,315 and has a fiduciary interest," 412 00:26:05,398 --> 00:26:06,899 but in court documents, 413 00:26:06,983 --> 00:26:10,612 he talked about the conservatorship as being a "hybrid business model." 414 00:26:10,695 --> 00:26:12,697 [ominous music playing] 415 00:26:18,453 --> 00:26:23,041 [Eliscu] According to the papers filed with the court on February 6, 2008, 416 00:26:23,124 --> 00:26:25,960 the conservators have access to all documents and records 417 00:26:26,044 --> 00:26:27,587 related to Britney's estate. 418 00:26:27,670 --> 00:26:31,549 They can enter and take possession of her house, kick people out, 419 00:26:31,633 --> 00:26:35,053 they can issue restraining orders, and employ security guards, 420 00:26:35,136 --> 00:26:37,930 they can use Britney's money to pay attorneys for matters 421 00:26:38,014 --> 00:26:41,768 involving the estate, open and operate businesses, 422 00:26:41,851 --> 00:26:44,437 hire people for any position necessary, 423 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,398 and pay them using funds from the estate. 424 00:26:48,566 --> 00:26:51,569 Why was Jamie made the conservator and not Lynne? 425 00:26:51,653 --> 00:26:53,988 Jamie is intimidating, and people who have known him 426 00:26:54,072 --> 00:26:55,573 and met him and worked with him, 427 00:26:55,657 --> 00:26:57,659 and even had positive experiences with him, 428 00:26:57,742 --> 00:27:00,703 will still tell you that he is very intimidating 429 00:27:00,787 --> 00:27:03,873 and when he's angry, you don't want to mess with him. 430 00:27:05,541 --> 00:27:07,210 They were really in a moment 431 00:27:07,293 --> 00:27:10,546 where they felt they needed to keep away certain people, 432 00:27:10,630 --> 00:27:13,883 and he was like the bouncer. He could keep people out. 433 00:27:14,926 --> 00:27:16,427 [Carr] Here we've got… 434 00:27:17,053 --> 00:27:19,597 [Eliscu] Larry Rudolph, Britney's longtime manager. 435 00:27:19,681 --> 00:27:24,060 He started in 1996 as her attorney and then grew into her manager. 436 00:27:24,143 --> 00:27:27,230 But, uh, in April of 2007, Britney fired him. 437 00:27:28,356 --> 00:27:32,777 Larry was the main person that Jamie Spears brought back 438 00:27:32,860 --> 00:27:35,738 to get things running, and he's been her manager ever since. 439 00:27:35,822 --> 00:27:38,950 And he often will say that he's not involved 440 00:27:39,033 --> 00:27:42,245 with the conservatorship or that he doesn't know what goes on, 441 00:27:42,328 --> 00:27:44,706 that he only knows what goes on with Britney's work. 442 00:27:47,500 --> 00:27:50,712 Louise Taylor, aka Lou, led business decisions at times 443 00:27:50,795 --> 00:27:52,755 over the course of the conservatorship. 444 00:27:53,339 --> 00:27:55,550 Louise Taylor's husband, Rob Taylor, 445 00:27:55,633 --> 00:27:58,428 is the pastor of a church called Calvary Chapel. 446 00:27:59,053 --> 00:28:02,807 [man] Lou Taylor started appearing around 2008, 447 00:28:02,890 --> 00:28:05,101 before the conservatorship. 448 00:28:05,184 --> 00:28:08,563 And we know this because there is paparazzi footage of her 449 00:28:08,646 --> 00:28:10,148 with Britney's father, Jamie. 450 00:28:13,109 --> 00:28:18,239 And then she somehow managed to become Britney's business manager. 451 00:28:19,115 --> 00:28:24,746 She is a Christian, so they trusted her a lot more because of that. 452 00:28:25,663 --> 00:28:28,458 [Carr] Lou Taylor, through her attorney Charles Harder, 453 00:28:28,541 --> 00:28:30,626 sent me a pre-emptive legal letter 454 00:28:30,710 --> 00:28:36,382 regarding any mention of Lou Taylor or her company, Tri Star, in this film. 455 00:28:36,466 --> 00:28:38,801 The letter was extensive. 456 00:29:09,165 --> 00:29:11,751 When I got this notice, I was alarmed. 457 00:29:11,834 --> 00:29:15,421 But receiving a letter from Lou Taylor or her attorney 458 00:29:15,505 --> 00:29:18,716 was not unusual for people involved in the story. 459 00:29:20,176 --> 00:29:23,387 While Lou's involvement with Britney wasn't clear, 460 00:29:23,471 --> 00:29:27,391 what was apparent was that Jamie and Lou were very close. 461 00:29:27,475 --> 00:29:30,978 Some sleuthing of Instagram showed Lou and her husband 462 00:29:31,062 --> 00:29:34,398 with Jamie on the day of his baptism at the Jordan River. 463 00:29:36,692 --> 00:29:39,654 This is paperwork relating to Britney's condition 464 00:29:39,737 --> 00:29:41,322 at the start of the conservatorship. 465 00:29:41,405 --> 00:29:43,241 It's… It's kind of a standard form 466 00:29:43,324 --> 00:29:46,369 where you indicate what the person's impairment is 467 00:29:46,452 --> 00:29:48,120 that requires a conservatorship. 468 00:29:48,204 --> 00:29:50,039 Specifically, this is interesting to us 469 00:29:50,122 --> 00:29:53,209 because it's orders related to dementia placement. 470 00:29:53,292 --> 00:29:55,294 [eerie music playing] 471 00:29:59,841 --> 00:30:04,470 You don't usually see dementia mentioned with, you know, with a young person. 472 00:30:10,059 --> 00:30:14,981 This is one of the most important filings in the entire conservatorship 473 00:30:15,064 --> 00:30:18,776 because when someone is being made a conservatee, 474 00:30:18,860 --> 00:30:21,445 they're entitled to five days' heads-up, 475 00:30:21,529 --> 00:30:25,241 so that if they want to contest it, or find a lawyer, et cetera, 476 00:30:25,324 --> 00:30:26,868 they have time to do that. 477 00:30:26,951 --> 00:30:30,663 The only reason given for depriving Britney of five days' notice 478 00:30:30,746 --> 00:30:35,334 is that Sam Lutfi is dangerous and needs to be kept away. 479 00:30:36,377 --> 00:30:38,796 Don't push! Don't push. 480 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,549 Get off! Off! Off! 481 00:30:41,632 --> 00:30:42,800 [camera shutter clicks] 482 00:30:43,384 --> 00:30:46,596 [Craker] It was total crisis mode with Sam, 483 00:30:46,679 --> 00:30:50,558 and that is something that I don't believe has really been portrayed correctly, 484 00:30:50,641 --> 00:30:53,811 is the level of crisis 485 00:30:53,895 --> 00:30:57,732 at the moment that the conservatorship began. 486 00:30:57,815 --> 00:30:59,984 Are you going to [bleep] get out? 487 00:31:00,067 --> 00:31:02,486 Oh, my God, please get the [bleep] out of the way! 488 00:31:02,570 --> 00:31:05,239 Now I'm scared you're gonna drive off without me. 489 00:31:05,323 --> 00:31:07,783 Now get out of the passenger seat, get out of the [bleep] car. 490 00:31:07,867 --> 00:31:10,161 Get out, get out, get out. Thank you. 491 00:31:11,412 --> 00:31:15,583 They felt they had to do it to protect Britney from Sam. 492 00:31:15,666 --> 00:31:18,252 We're sort of alluding to what happened, 493 00:31:18,336 --> 00:31:21,047 that something dangerous was happening with Sam. 494 00:31:21,130 --> 00:31:23,424 What do you think was going to happen? 495 00:31:23,507 --> 00:31:26,677 He was crushing drugs and putting them in her food 496 00:31:26,761 --> 00:31:30,181 -and bragging about it to…[Carr] And you 100% believe that? 497 00:31:31,974 --> 00:31:32,808 Yeah. 498 00:31:35,895 --> 00:31:38,564 [Britney] Drive my [bleep] car, that's what I got to do. 499 00:31:40,733 --> 00:31:44,612 You have a hundred blood tests and drug tests. 500 00:31:44,695 --> 00:31:47,531 The entire time I was with her, she passed every single one of them, 501 00:31:47,615 --> 00:31:50,701 which is why the police never came to my door. 502 00:31:50,785 --> 00:31:52,286 No one called the police. 503 00:31:52,370 --> 00:31:56,791 To be char-- Accused of allegations that serious, 504 00:31:56,874 --> 00:32:02,338 that you're drugging the world's biggest star, you call the police. 505 00:32:02,421 --> 00:32:04,632 You call the FBI. You don't call TMZ. 506 00:32:05,591 --> 00:32:07,927 -I was the perfect scapegoat. -[Carr] Why? 507 00:32:08,761 --> 00:32:11,347 I was new. They didn't know who I was. 508 00:32:11,430 --> 00:32:13,474 I was just an expendable guy. 509 00:32:13,557 --> 00:32:16,477 Like, all right, if that's what you need to get this done 510 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,854 and waive a five-day notice, and explain a five-day notice, 511 00:32:18,938 --> 00:32:24,360 it means that she would have been notified that this was gonna happen, 512 00:32:24,443 --> 00:32:26,570 and she would've had the right to contest to it. 513 00:32:26,654 --> 00:32:30,199 She would have obviously contested it. They knew that, everyone knew that. 514 00:32:30,282 --> 00:32:33,995 And so they had to do everything to prevent that from happening. 515 00:32:35,121 --> 00:32:36,122 [horn honks] 516 00:32:37,665 --> 00:32:40,751 [Carr] Sam would later sue Lynne Spears, Britney's mom, 517 00:32:40,835 --> 00:32:44,380 for defamation based on her account of his involvement. 518 00:33:20,332 --> 00:33:22,334 [dramatic music playing] 519 00:33:25,337 --> 00:33:30,342 Britney went with one of her dad's appointed security guards… 520 00:33:31,427 --> 00:33:33,179 out to get a hamburger. 521 00:33:33,262 --> 00:33:36,182 As I am told, they both entered the restaurant, 522 00:33:36,265 --> 00:33:38,309 and Britney sort of did an about-face, 523 00:33:38,392 --> 00:33:42,730 jumped into the car that he had brought her in and took off. 524 00:33:44,565 --> 00:33:48,402 Uh, she called me and said that she needed help. 525 00:33:49,737 --> 00:33:53,991 I met her and a friend of hers at the Beverly Hills Hotel. 526 00:33:54,075 --> 00:33:56,160 -[Carr] Adnan Ghalib? -[Grossman] Correct. 527 00:33:57,995 --> 00:33:59,538 We called Adam. 528 00:33:59,622 --> 00:34:03,918 He was a part of a firm that I had a relationship with. 529 00:34:04,001 --> 00:34:05,836 [helicopter whirring] 530 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:12,093 We were chased probably by, I don't know, 50, 75 vehicles. 531 00:34:13,677 --> 00:34:15,596 [paparazzi clamoring] 532 00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:17,181 It is so mean. 533 00:34:22,478 --> 00:34:24,730 [Streisand] We met in my office, which was crazy, 534 00:34:24,814 --> 00:34:28,567 'cause we had helicopters swirling over the building. 535 00:34:28,651 --> 00:34:30,945 There must have been a hundred paparazzi. 536 00:34:31,737 --> 00:34:33,656 I sent down my secretary, 537 00:34:33,739 --> 00:34:35,866 who brought a guy from the mailroom 538 00:34:35,950 --> 00:34:38,452 who's like 6'6" and 250 pounds, 539 00:34:38,536 --> 00:34:41,705 to help Britney get up from the garage to my office. 540 00:34:41,789 --> 00:34:42,790 [Ghalib] Yes. 541 00:34:42,873 --> 00:34:46,377 -[woman] I'm Adam's secretary. -We gotta go. 542 00:34:46,460 --> 00:34:48,045 [woman] Just follow me. 543 00:34:48,129 --> 00:34:50,131 My secretary, Dolores Gameros, 544 00:34:50,214 --> 00:34:53,717 who's like 5'4", was elbowing everybody out of the way 545 00:34:53,801 --> 00:34:55,719 and getting her through the crowd 546 00:34:55,803 --> 00:34:59,598 and got her up to the office, which was just an unbelievable sight. 547 00:34:59,682 --> 00:35:05,312 But you can imagine what it is like for anyone to have to go through that. 548 00:35:05,396 --> 00:35:07,398 [crowd clamoring] 549 00:35:13,237 --> 00:35:14,488 [man] Don't kick me! 550 00:35:16,365 --> 00:35:20,411 I can't tell you about what we talked about, right? Because that's privileged. 551 00:35:20,494 --> 00:35:23,622 But I can tell you what I told the court. 552 00:35:26,709 --> 00:35:29,336 So we walk into court and I said, 553 00:35:29,420 --> 00:35:32,256 "Your Honor, she doesn't want her father to be the conservator." 554 00:35:32,339 --> 00:35:35,092 "She wants an independent to be the conservator." 555 00:35:35,176 --> 00:35:38,721 She clearly understood the concept of a conservatorship. 556 00:35:38,804 --> 00:35:40,764 She understood what was going to happen. 557 00:35:40,848 --> 00:35:44,059 She could make some decisions about it, and let me say, 558 00:35:44,143 --> 00:35:48,480 I'm not gonna say that in every case, every conservatorship case, 559 00:35:48,564 --> 00:35:52,276 it's inappropriate to have a family member as the conservator. 560 00:35:52,359 --> 00:35:54,028 That would be going too far. 561 00:35:54,111 --> 00:36:00,492 But I will say that I generally prefer to see an independent professional 562 00:36:00,576 --> 00:36:01,827 as the conservator. 563 00:36:01,911 --> 00:36:06,665 And the reason is that family relationships are always complex. 564 00:36:07,291 --> 00:36:09,960 When I told the judge what Britney wanted, 565 00:36:10,044 --> 00:36:12,004 the judge looked at me and said, 566 00:36:12,087 --> 00:36:18,302 "Mr. Streisand, I have a report that says she does not have the capacity 567 00:36:18,385 --> 00:36:22,556 to retain counsel and have an attorney-client relationship." 568 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,309 "So I'm sorry, Mr. Streisand, 569 00:36:25,392 --> 00:36:27,686 but you're not gonna be able to represent her 570 00:36:27,770 --> 00:36:30,773 and I need to ask you to the leave the courtroom." And I did. 571 00:36:33,192 --> 00:36:35,694 [man 1] Can you give us a heads-up on what happened here today? 572 00:36:35,778 --> 00:36:36,779 No, I'm sorry. 573 00:36:36,862 --> 00:36:39,657 -I've talked to the press. -[man 2] How's Britney? 574 00:36:40,658 --> 00:36:42,618 There's no law that says that conservatees 575 00:36:42,701 --> 00:36:44,995 have the right to the attorney of their choice. 576 00:36:45,079 --> 00:36:47,456 It's a hole in the system, for sure, 577 00:36:47,539 --> 00:36:50,793 that allows the courts to impose their own ideas 578 00:36:50,876 --> 00:36:54,797 of what is the best representation for the conservatee. 579 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,384 They have what's called this volunteer panel of lawyers, 580 00:36:58,467 --> 00:37:00,678 which basically means that the lawyers volunteer. 581 00:37:00,761 --> 00:37:03,973 Doesn't mean they're working for free. Far from it. 582 00:37:04,056 --> 00:37:07,101 But they volunteer to get appointed by the court 583 00:37:07,184 --> 00:37:08,727 to represent people like Britney, 584 00:37:08,811 --> 00:37:12,815 people who are conservatees or proposed conservatees. 585 00:37:12,898 --> 00:37:17,611 I can't tell you what happened in court after I left. 586 00:37:17,695 --> 00:37:21,156 I don't know whether Sam Ingham, 587 00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:25,953 who was appointed as her lawyer, argued the way that I argued, 588 00:37:26,036 --> 00:37:28,789 that the conservator shouldn't be Britney's father. 589 00:37:28,872 --> 00:37:30,291 I've got my suspicions. 590 00:37:31,250 --> 00:37:36,088 I sure hope Sam Ingham fought hard against, uh, against it, 591 00:37:36,171 --> 00:37:37,798 but I never heard that he did. 592 00:37:40,009 --> 00:37:44,054 [Chicotel] We have very particular standards for conservatorship. 593 00:37:44,138 --> 00:37:46,765 You have to be unable to meet your needs 594 00:37:46,849 --> 00:37:49,268 for food, clothing, health, and shelter. 595 00:37:49,351 --> 00:37:50,352 So let me put it this way, 596 00:37:50,436 --> 00:37:53,314 I've represented dozens of conservatees in court, 597 00:37:53,397 --> 00:37:55,482 not one of them has ever had a job. 598 00:37:57,109 --> 00:37:59,570 [ominous music playing] 599 00:37:59,653 --> 00:38:01,572 Somebody called me from People and they said, 600 00:38:01,655 --> 00:38:06,201 "We're gonna write a story in regards to her father 601 00:38:06,285 --> 00:38:08,787 wanting conservatorship of Britney." 602 00:38:09,788 --> 00:38:14,335 They basically, you know, explained it in one sentence. 603 00:38:14,418 --> 00:38:18,047 "He will be Britney Spears." That's all they said. 604 00:38:18,130 --> 00:38:21,216 I said, "What do you mean? Britney Spears is still here." 605 00:38:21,300 --> 00:38:27,806 "Nope. She no longer has rights or say over anything." 606 00:38:27,890 --> 00:38:29,391 "He does." 607 00:38:29,475 --> 00:38:32,644 I'm like, "Well, why would that be the case?" 608 00:38:32,728 --> 00:38:33,979 "She's functioning." 609 00:38:34,063 --> 00:38:38,442 I watched her write the Blackout album on a Starbucks napkin 610 00:38:38,525 --> 00:38:41,653 on Ventura Boulevard in Studio City. 611 00:38:42,446 --> 00:38:46,784 I watched her sit there and put the moves together. 612 00:38:46,867 --> 00:38:49,411 And we're talking about, you know, 613 00:38:49,495 --> 00:38:52,498 what colors to use and, you know, the scenery, 614 00:38:52,581 --> 00:38:55,918 and the change of scenery, and the backdrop and costumes. 615 00:38:56,502 --> 00:38:58,921 She did all that, and you're telling me 616 00:38:59,004 --> 00:39:03,300 that her father's gonna get a conservatorship? 617 00:39:03,384 --> 00:39:05,010 It didn't make sense to me. 618 00:39:05,094 --> 00:39:07,221 [journalist] I'm from In Touch magazine. 619 00:39:07,304 --> 00:39:10,182 Let me give you a fucking clue, I don't talk to no-fucking-body. 620 00:39:10,265 --> 00:39:12,226 [journalist] Why don't you talk to us? 621 00:39:12,309 --> 00:39:14,812 'Cause I never have to talk to anybody, you dumb fuck. 622 00:39:33,330 --> 00:39:35,332 [suspenseful music playing] 623 00:40:11,535 --> 00:40:12,703 [Carr] The source said, 624 00:40:12,786 --> 00:40:16,498 "This is a confidential report only a select few have access." 625 00:40:16,582 --> 00:40:18,459 "Most doctors and other professionals 626 00:40:18,542 --> 00:40:20,711 have not been publicly connected to the case 627 00:40:20,794 --> 00:40:22,421 and would like to remain that way." 628 00:40:22,504 --> 00:40:26,967 "The report was produced by a doctor that resigned from the case in 2013." 629 00:40:30,179 --> 00:40:32,598 Look at this sentence right here. Read it out loud. 630 00:40:32,681 --> 00:40:37,060 [Eliscu] "Britney Spears lacks capacity to retain and direct counsel." 631 00:40:39,104 --> 00:40:42,441 "Britney Spears lacks the capacity to understand or manage 632 00:40:42,524 --> 00:40:46,904 her own financial affairs without being subject to undue influence." 633 00:40:46,987 --> 00:40:50,491 What's wild is, at the same time this report was written, 634 00:40:50,574 --> 00:40:52,242 Britney was back to work. 635 00:40:52,326 --> 00:40:54,703 She was on the set of How I Met Your Mother. 636 00:40:54,786 --> 00:40:57,372 Sir, please don't yell at me, because when people yell at me, 637 00:40:57,456 --> 00:40:59,458 I have a tendency to start crying. 638 00:40:59,541 --> 00:41:03,504 [Eliscu] The episode was out within two months of the conservatorship starting. 639 00:41:03,587 --> 00:41:05,756 When they're rude to you, hang up the phone. 640 00:41:06,757 --> 00:41:09,676 Yet we have paperwork that says she had dementia. 641 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:15,057 How is someone who is that ill well enough to go to work? 642 00:41:22,105 --> 00:41:24,274 "Caution should also be exercised 643 00:41:24,358 --> 00:41:27,110 so as not to accelerate her return to work 644 00:41:27,194 --> 00:41:30,030 faster than her emotional recovery allows, 645 00:41:30,113 --> 00:41:34,535 lest she have a relapse that would undo the progress she has made thus far." 646 00:41:35,244 --> 00:41:38,914 [Carr] The medical team said that Britney lacked capacity, 647 00:41:38,997 --> 00:41:42,751 but who was the original doctor that made that decision? 648 00:41:42,834 --> 00:41:45,921 In looking at the publicly available court documents, 649 00:41:46,004 --> 00:41:49,341 there was only one name listed in the initial evaluation, 650 00:41:49,424 --> 00:41:51,552 a Dr. J. Edward Spar. 651 00:41:52,302 --> 00:41:54,805 I needed to confirm that he was the doctor 652 00:41:54,888 --> 00:41:59,476 that conducted the medical evaluation that kept the conservatorship in place. 653 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:00,561 We're ready for slate. 654 00:42:00,644 --> 00:42:02,479 And what the justification was. 655 00:42:02,563 --> 00:42:04,398 [woman] Dr. James, uh… 656 00:42:04,481 --> 00:42:05,899 -Spar. -[woman] Spar. 657 00:42:06,525 --> 00:42:07,693 Take one, mark. 658 00:42:07,776 --> 00:42:08,777 [man] Thank you. 659 00:42:09,778 --> 00:42:12,322 [Carr] Dr. Spar, tell me about your work. 660 00:42:12,406 --> 00:42:15,576 I am a retired, uh, geriatric psychiatrist 661 00:42:15,659 --> 00:42:19,329 and still do the occasional consultation for attorneys, 662 00:42:19,413 --> 00:42:23,208 including, you know, contested conservatorships sometimes. 663 00:42:23,292 --> 00:42:25,961 [Carr] Had you heard of Britney Spears' music before you met her? 664 00:42:26,044 --> 00:42:30,173 You know, uh, I'm not a fan. I don't listen to music of that ilk. 665 00:42:30,257 --> 00:42:32,217 But, yeah, I know who she is. 666 00:42:33,552 --> 00:42:35,512 -Wait, before I met her? -Yeah. 667 00:42:35,596 --> 00:42:39,224 Oh, wait, I'm not going to acknowledge that I've ever met her. 668 00:42:39,766 --> 00:42:42,144 [Carr] Do you specialize in dementia? 669 00:42:42,227 --> 00:42:44,313 Well, I'm a geriatric psychiatrist, 670 00:42:44,396 --> 00:42:47,733 so that's one of the things that geriatric psychiatrists 671 00:42:47,816 --> 00:42:50,110 spend a lot of time and energy on, yeah. 672 00:42:50,193 --> 00:42:53,614 Is that why you were brought in to evaluate Britney Spears? 673 00:42:55,157 --> 00:43:00,454 I'm not going to verify that I was ever brought in to evaluate Britney Spears. 674 00:43:00,537 --> 00:43:02,497 So here is a court document 675 00:43:02,581 --> 00:43:05,292 that said, uh, "According to Dr. Spar's declaration." 676 00:43:06,877 --> 00:43:10,756 Okay. Again, show me my signed declaration. 677 00:43:11,923 --> 00:43:16,678 If you show me a public document with my signature on it, 678 00:43:16,762 --> 00:43:19,056 I will verify my signature. 679 00:43:19,139 --> 00:43:22,893 Other than that, I'm not gonna talk about 680 00:43:22,976 --> 00:43:27,230 whether anybody ever retained me to see anybody, not just Britney Spears. 681 00:43:27,314 --> 00:43:29,483 These are confidential evaluations. 682 00:43:29,566 --> 00:43:31,568 [Carr] But you think, for the most part, 683 00:43:31,652 --> 00:43:36,031 that conservatorships are, um, mostly to help people? 684 00:43:37,074 --> 00:43:39,660 The ones where I have been involved, 685 00:43:39,743 --> 00:43:42,454 the person who's filing for the conservatorship 686 00:43:42,537 --> 00:43:44,706 believes that they are acting in the interests 687 00:43:44,790 --> 00:43:46,708 of their proposed conservatee. 688 00:43:46,792 --> 00:43:49,503 They're trying to protect them from something. 689 00:43:49,586 --> 00:43:52,172 Usually, most of the cases I've been involved in, 690 00:43:52,255 --> 00:43:54,216 what they're trying to protect them from 691 00:43:54,299 --> 00:43:57,928 is a predatory individual after that person's money. 692 00:43:58,011 --> 00:44:00,013 [somber music playing] 693 00:44:06,603 --> 00:44:09,564 [Ghalib] I get a phone call from her father. 694 00:44:10,482 --> 00:44:12,818 And he's like, "I need you to come home right now." 695 00:44:12,901 --> 00:44:15,529 I said, "We'll come home when we come home." 696 00:44:16,113 --> 00:44:18,323 And he said, "No, you need to bring her home now." 697 00:44:18,407 --> 00:44:21,493 "I'm the conservator of her estate." 698 00:44:23,245 --> 00:44:25,956 You know, he was always so extreme. You know? 699 00:44:30,419 --> 00:44:34,756 Let me explain to you how fucking devastating it was 700 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,218 for me to pull up at the gates 701 00:44:38,301 --> 00:44:40,595 and there's her father standing there, 702 00:44:40,679 --> 00:44:43,765 four of the security, and two officers. 703 00:44:44,349 --> 00:44:47,811 And they're standing there, and she freaks out. 704 00:44:47,894 --> 00:44:49,896 "What are they doing here? Why are they here?" 705 00:44:49,980 --> 00:44:52,733 "Why is my father at my house? Who are these people? Why are the cops here?" 706 00:44:52,816 --> 00:44:54,192 And she looks at me. 707 00:44:54,943 --> 00:44:58,155 I'm supposed to be the one that protects her. 708 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,742 And I'm trying to calm her down. I cannot. 709 00:45:01,825 --> 00:45:05,871 I'm trying to explain to her, "He is your conservator." 710 00:45:05,954 --> 00:45:11,209 "Without his permission, because he is you, I've kidnapped you." 711 00:45:11,835 --> 00:45:13,545 "And it's that real." 712 00:45:13,628 --> 00:45:16,965 She just looks. She doesn't talk anymore. She's completely silent. 713 00:45:20,802 --> 00:45:23,221 You know, they escort her into the house. 714 00:45:25,390 --> 00:45:27,309 That's when the realization was, 715 00:45:27,392 --> 00:45:30,270 "Okay, I don't think things are gonna be the same." 716 00:45:44,701 --> 00:45:46,703 [camera shutter clicking] 717 00:45:47,954 --> 00:45:51,500 [Carr] As 2008 continued, Britney had reportedly negotiated 718 00:45:51,583 --> 00:45:54,211 50-50 custody of her kids. 719 00:45:54,294 --> 00:45:56,630 The amount of time she spent with them 720 00:45:56,713 --> 00:46:00,342 was subject to the approval of her dad and conservator, Jamie. 721 00:46:01,343 --> 00:46:03,345 [indistinct chatter] 722 00:46:06,097 --> 00:46:08,225 Britney seemed to be recovering from the events 723 00:46:08,308 --> 00:46:10,519 that led to her hospitalization. 724 00:46:10,602 --> 00:46:13,605 It was deemed by Britney, Inc. that it was time to work, 725 00:46:13,688 --> 00:46:14,898 and work she did. 726 00:46:15,774 --> 00:46:17,776 [indistinct chatter] 727 00:46:20,779 --> 00:46:23,114 It started with recording a new album, 728 00:46:23,198 --> 00:46:26,743 and then the idea of a tell-all documentary was proposed. 729 00:46:26,827 --> 00:46:29,579 This MTV Film would be called For the Record. 730 00:46:30,247 --> 00:46:32,999 This was a new time in Britney's professional life, 731 00:46:33,083 --> 00:46:36,169 and it meant those that worked with her would be carefully selected 732 00:46:36,253 --> 00:46:37,796 by the conservatorship. 733 00:46:38,713 --> 00:46:42,717 It was interesting going through a lot of this with other creatives 734 00:46:42,801 --> 00:46:45,178 and people who were sort of from the outside. 735 00:46:45,262 --> 00:46:47,305 I remember at one point talking amongst us 736 00:46:47,389 --> 00:46:50,642 and realizing that, like, there wasn't a single person 737 00:46:50,725 --> 00:46:52,936 that was involved with that project 738 00:46:53,019 --> 00:46:57,524 that didn't come out feeling affected emotionally. 739 00:46:58,066 --> 00:46:59,609 Like, not a single person. 740 00:47:00,151 --> 00:47:02,737 [Britney] If I wasn't under the restraints that I'm under right now, 741 00:47:02,821 --> 00:47:08,118 with all the lawyers and doctors and people analyzing me every day 742 00:47:08,201 --> 00:47:09,619 and all that kind of stuff, 743 00:47:09,703 --> 00:47:15,876 like, if that wasn't there, I'd feel so liberated and feel like myself. 744 00:47:15,959 --> 00:47:19,170 It's like… It's bad. 745 00:47:19,254 --> 00:47:21,256 [somber music playing] 746 00:47:28,054 --> 00:47:29,389 I'm sad. 747 00:47:31,975 --> 00:47:34,352 [Jamie] The best thing for her is what she's doing right now. 748 00:47:34,436 --> 00:47:37,689 Let's give her… She's in her element. She's in her world. 749 00:47:37,772 --> 00:47:42,694 And, uh, keeping her busy. You know, like me, I like to go fishing. 750 00:47:42,777 --> 00:47:45,530 She likes to sing and dance. She likes to work. 751 00:47:45,614 --> 00:47:47,616 Are they gonna bring something here or something? 752 00:47:47,699 --> 00:47:51,161 -I have no idea what's going on. -Yes, you do, brat. 753 00:47:52,913 --> 00:47:54,915 -Does everybody know what we're doing? -[man] Yep. 754 00:47:54,998 --> 00:47:56,499 -Except me. -[man] Except you. 755 00:47:56,583 --> 00:47:57,709 Is that my car? 756 00:47:59,169 --> 00:48:01,963 [Gallery] I was there that day, and I remember, 757 00:48:02,047 --> 00:48:07,010 like with almost everything, there were these two polar opposite feelings. 758 00:48:07,093 --> 00:48:10,305 Like, it was so nice for her to get to drive her car 759 00:48:10,388 --> 00:48:13,725 with the top down and just feel free for a minute. 760 00:48:13,808 --> 00:48:17,896 But on the other hand, I'm thinking, like, what is going on with this girl 761 00:48:17,979 --> 00:48:20,440 that we have to arrange… 762 00:48:20,523 --> 00:48:23,109 Thirty people have to arrange this whole thing 763 00:48:23,193 --> 00:48:27,781 to let her drive her car to feel free for 30 minutes? 764 00:48:28,490 --> 00:48:30,700 Like, in what context? 765 00:48:30,784 --> 00:48:36,539 Like… Like, how is that how she gets to feel free? 766 00:48:37,791 --> 00:48:40,293 The whole thing is fucked up. I'm sorry. 767 00:48:42,420 --> 00:48:44,756 [crowd cheering] 768 00:48:46,508 --> 00:48:48,385 Britney and I had become close. 769 00:48:49,010 --> 00:48:53,181 I could shoot her in a way that not all the other camera people could. 770 00:48:53,264 --> 00:48:57,227 Um, and so then we just developed this sort of close-knit friendship. 771 00:48:59,229 --> 00:49:01,982 There were times she'd ask me for help, 772 00:49:02,065 --> 00:49:05,026 whether it was questions about legal issues 773 00:49:05,110 --> 00:49:09,280 or, you know, stuff about conservatorships. 774 00:49:09,364 --> 00:49:12,701 Um, and I would usually try and deflect these things 775 00:49:12,784 --> 00:49:14,869 because if I didn't have an answer, 776 00:49:14,953 --> 00:49:17,539 I didn't want to give her any wrong information. 777 00:49:17,622 --> 00:49:21,751 Um, but I know that there were times that she did want to speak out 778 00:49:21,835 --> 00:49:24,629 and address things and wasn't really able to. 779 00:49:28,591 --> 00:49:30,385 This People article came out. 780 00:49:30,468 --> 00:49:34,264 I think they had interviewed Kevin and obviously talked about Britney. 781 00:49:34,347 --> 00:49:37,559 And there was stuff she didn't really agree with. 782 00:49:37,642 --> 00:49:40,520 And it's like she wanted to respond to it. 783 00:49:40,603 --> 00:49:44,607 And so, yeah, she wrote this letter and she gave it to me 784 00:49:44,691 --> 00:49:48,153 and she was like, "Can you read this on TV?" 785 00:49:50,030 --> 00:49:53,867 "What happened to Britney was a year ago and people need to get with the times." 786 00:49:53,950 --> 00:49:56,661 "And as for Kevin saying Britney divorced him, 787 00:49:56,745 --> 00:50:00,123 she was forced to by her lawyers because she went to visit him in New York, 788 00:50:00,206 --> 00:50:02,000 and he wouldn't see her and the children." 789 00:50:02,083 --> 00:50:05,962 "And her lawyer said if she doesn't divorce him, he's gonna do it himself." 790 00:50:06,046 --> 00:50:09,758 "So, Kevin trying to play the innocent victim is hardly irrelevant." 791 00:50:09,841 --> 00:50:11,760 "He left her and the babies." 792 00:50:12,302 --> 00:50:14,262 "Her going on the mend, partying two years ago, 793 00:50:14,345 --> 00:50:16,890 has nothing to do with the situation now." 794 00:50:16,973 --> 00:50:21,102 "She's a different person, and most of their fighting was done back then 795 00:50:21,186 --> 00:50:25,815 because of his problem waking and baking to marijuana at 5:00 in the morning." 796 00:50:26,858 --> 00:50:29,986 "No one talks about these things because no one knows the truth." 797 00:50:30,695 --> 00:50:32,322 "She was lied to and set up." 798 00:50:32,989 --> 00:50:35,742 "Her children were taken away and she did spin out of control, 799 00:50:35,825 --> 00:50:38,495 which any mother would in those circumstances." 800 00:50:39,329 --> 00:50:44,167 "This year, Britney's been silenced to speak out about anything that's going on." 801 00:50:44,250 --> 00:50:48,338 "The people controlling her life have made $3 million this year." 802 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,257 "She would love for new eyes to see her situation, 803 00:50:51,341 --> 00:50:53,676 but if she brings it up, she's constantly threatened 804 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,513 that the conservators will take her kids away." 805 00:50:56,596 --> 00:50:58,598 "So how long does this go on for?" 806 00:50:59,432 --> 00:51:02,268 "As long as the people are getting paid and she has no rights, 807 00:51:02,352 --> 00:51:06,064 it could go on for a while, but it doesn't make it right at all." 808 00:51:08,191 --> 00:51:11,319 "Britney's given her brother a $2 million apartment, 809 00:51:11,402 --> 00:51:13,279 her mother an estate in Louisiana, 810 00:51:13,363 --> 00:51:16,074 and her father the best job in show business." 811 00:51:16,574 --> 00:51:20,954 "She's a very giving person and would love to get the respect she deserves." 812 00:51:24,374 --> 00:51:26,918 It was an emotional response to the article coming out, 813 00:51:27,001 --> 00:51:29,754 and it is like her first response. 814 00:51:29,838 --> 00:51:32,423 For me not to read it all on TV right away was also saying, 815 00:51:32,507 --> 00:51:36,136 why don't you just take a couple days and cool down from this? 816 00:51:36,219 --> 00:51:39,597 And then a couple days later, maybe we can revisit it. 817 00:51:40,223 --> 00:51:43,434 Things like this would happen often, not necessarily like this letter, 818 00:51:43,518 --> 00:51:46,980 but like trying to use my phone to call people. 819 00:51:47,063 --> 00:51:50,692 Those are the things you had to look out for and steer her away from. 820 00:51:51,442 --> 00:51:54,988 And then, a couple days later, I got a phone call from the lawyers. 821 00:51:55,071 --> 00:51:59,534 The letter had some, you know, some information that would be really bad 822 00:51:59,617 --> 00:52:02,036 if it came out or something like that. 823 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:06,124 And so, all of a sudden, the letter turned into a much bigger thing. 824 00:52:06,708 --> 00:52:11,171 And then, you know, I just brought it in and showed it to them, and that was that. 825 00:52:11,254 --> 00:52:14,340 [Carr] But you had enough foresight to copy the letter? 826 00:52:15,091 --> 00:52:16,467 I wouldn't call it foresight. 827 00:52:16,551 --> 00:52:20,388 I think that when she gave it to me, we took a picture of it 828 00:52:20,471 --> 00:52:23,933 because I didn't want to actually carry the letter. 829 00:52:24,017 --> 00:52:26,311 And what was that experience like for you? 830 00:52:28,229 --> 00:52:31,065 I mean, again, like, I always just felt bad for her. 831 00:52:33,401 --> 00:52:37,197 I felt bad that, like, this was her reality and her world, 832 00:52:37,906 --> 00:52:41,075 where she gave me a letter, and then, all of a sudden, 833 00:52:41,159 --> 00:52:43,745 this huge fire alarm goes off. 834 00:52:46,039 --> 00:52:50,960 It's crazy. All she wanted to do was respond to an article. 835 00:52:51,044 --> 00:52:54,130 [Carr] How much longer did you work with Britney after that? 836 00:52:54,964 --> 00:53:00,011 It was pretty shortly after that that I stopped working with her. 837 00:53:00,094 --> 00:53:05,892 I think at that point it was obvious that we were close and pretty good friends. 838 00:53:05,975 --> 00:53:07,060 Um… 839 00:53:07,143 --> 00:53:11,648 I mean, this was coming after I was her date for her brother's wedding. 840 00:53:11,731 --> 00:53:16,778 And, you know, we had developed, you know, I think just like a good trust. 841 00:53:16,861 --> 00:53:20,573 And maybe we were too close at that point. 842 00:53:21,491 --> 00:53:24,285 And so, yeah, shortly after that, I got removed. 843 00:53:27,247 --> 00:53:31,709 I actually… I don't think I've spoken to her since. 844 00:53:36,673 --> 00:53:39,634 And Britney had met a bunch of my friends. 845 00:53:39,717 --> 00:53:44,764 You know? She had, you know, like sort of come into my life. 846 00:53:44,847 --> 00:53:50,478 And, you know, it was just sad to think that she was gonna be alone again. 847 00:53:56,150 --> 00:53:58,152 [pensive music playing] 848 00:54:33,563 --> 00:54:37,608 [Eliscu] In January of 2009, I went to L.A. for the winter, 849 00:54:38,109 --> 00:54:40,361 and I had made contact with Sam Lutfi. 850 00:54:41,195 --> 00:54:45,033 He'd been a good background source for the Rolling Stone cover story, 851 00:54:45,116 --> 00:54:47,910 and we had kept in touch even after it came out. 852 00:54:48,494 --> 00:54:51,748 Then he told me about the fact that he and Adnan had been trying 853 00:54:51,831 --> 00:54:56,002 to come up with a plan to help her find a different lawyer. 854 00:54:57,628 --> 00:55:01,674 She still, in January of 2009, 855 00:55:01,758 --> 00:55:06,095 still wanted a different lawyer if she could get one. 856 00:55:06,179 --> 00:55:09,599 This was a full year of the conservatorship 857 00:55:09,682 --> 00:55:11,809 supposedly having saved her life. 858 00:55:12,894 --> 00:55:15,104 They had been talking to different lawyers 859 00:55:15,188 --> 00:55:19,150 who thought that if they could get her to sign this document 860 00:55:19,233 --> 00:55:23,613 saying why she wanted a new lawyer and why she wanted the specific lawyer 861 00:55:23,696 --> 00:55:26,783 that that would be something that would just have to happen then 862 00:55:26,866 --> 00:55:29,911 and there would be no way to refute it. 863 00:55:31,287 --> 00:55:34,499 At that time, Sam and Adnan were persona non grata. 864 00:55:34,582 --> 00:55:38,378 They had been completely forbidden from having access to Britney. 865 00:55:39,337 --> 00:55:41,506 And within days of me arriving in L.A., 866 00:55:41,589 --> 00:55:44,926 Sam started talking about trying to get her to sign this thing 867 00:55:45,009 --> 00:55:47,387 and trying to find someone who might get her to sign. 868 00:55:48,429 --> 00:55:54,102 I can't say there was a specific moment that convinced me to do it. 869 00:55:54,644 --> 00:55:58,564 Of course, I was concerned about being a participant in the story 870 00:55:58,648 --> 00:56:01,359 I was trying to cover objectively. 871 00:56:01,442 --> 00:56:06,322 But, at that point, I had known Britney Spears for a decade almost, 872 00:56:06,406 --> 00:56:12,703 so I cared about her in a human way that there was no denying it at that point, 873 00:56:12,787 --> 00:56:17,125 that I could be more useful as a Good Samaritan almost 874 00:56:17,208 --> 00:56:21,254 than another journalist trying to cover the story. 875 00:56:21,337 --> 00:56:24,006 [man] Anything to say about the conservatorship today? 876 00:56:24,507 --> 00:56:29,011 [Eliscu] Sam explained to me that I would need to go to the Montage 877 00:56:29,095 --> 00:56:31,973 and she would be waiting for me. 878 00:56:32,056 --> 00:56:35,268 And she would know to come meet me in the bathroom. 879 00:56:36,978 --> 00:56:39,814 I just walked in thinking, "Pretend I'm a guest." 880 00:56:39,897 --> 00:56:45,153 I took the elevator up and I walked out and I saw Edon, her security guard, 881 00:56:45,236 --> 00:56:48,656 up there and maybe one other, like, security-looking dude. 882 00:56:49,407 --> 00:56:53,995 She was just in the pool by herself. Just leaning on the edge of the pool. 883 00:56:54,078 --> 00:56:58,166 Um, and I kind of gave her a little side-eye and saw her see me, 884 00:56:58,249 --> 00:57:01,127 and then went into this small bathroom. 885 00:57:01,210 --> 00:57:05,673 I went into the stall, closed the door, and got the papers and the pen ready, 886 00:57:05,756 --> 00:57:09,260 and saw her tattoo on her foot or ankle or whatever it is, 887 00:57:09,343 --> 00:57:15,183 and opened the door and I showed her the spots where she needed to sign. 888 00:57:15,266 --> 00:57:18,436 And she signed and looked at me and said, "Thank you." 889 00:57:18,519 --> 00:57:19,729 And I said… 890 00:57:30,239 --> 00:57:33,576 I said, "I'll see you again. Go." 891 00:57:36,204 --> 00:57:41,083 Yeah, she definitely seemed scared. It was hard to tell 'cause I was scared. 892 00:57:42,043 --> 00:57:47,006 But she was appreciative, which was, like, such classic kind of her vibe to be, 893 00:57:47,089 --> 00:57:50,176 in that moment to be scared but to also be grateful, you know? 894 00:57:50,259 --> 00:57:52,261 [eerie music playing] 895 00:58:32,927 --> 00:58:35,555 I thought the documents were gonna be delivered right away. 896 00:58:35,638 --> 00:58:39,475 I was told there would be an ex parte hearing to address this, 897 00:58:39,559 --> 00:58:40,851 but then days passed 898 00:58:40,935 --> 00:58:45,481 and Britney was supposed to go on a trip somewhere with her dad. 899 00:58:45,565 --> 00:58:48,818 And we thought that when he sees that she signed it, 900 00:58:48,901 --> 00:58:51,279 he'll know that things are gonna change. 901 00:58:52,321 --> 00:58:55,658 I couldn't believe it when I found out, about a week later, 902 00:58:55,741 --> 00:59:01,622 that it was all over and that, similar to what had happened with Adam Streisand, 903 00:59:01,706 --> 00:59:03,374 that it had been ruled 904 00:59:03,457 --> 00:59:07,295 that she lacked the capacity to choose a lawyer 905 00:59:07,378 --> 00:59:11,924 and that they had cast enough doubt on to whether that was her signature. 906 00:59:14,302 --> 00:59:16,095 I never heard anything of it again. 907 00:59:16,679 --> 00:59:18,973 No one ever talked about it again, 908 00:59:20,057 --> 00:59:23,394 and still no one really talks about the fact 909 00:59:23,477 --> 00:59:27,607 that there was another attempt to get a lawyer 910 00:59:27,690 --> 00:59:29,442 that somehow didn't work out. 911 00:59:31,485 --> 00:59:35,156 [Carr] But someone else knew about the incident at the Montage. 912 00:59:35,239 --> 00:59:40,036 Seven days after Britney signed the papers saying she wanted new representation, 913 00:59:40,119 --> 00:59:43,456 the court-appointed lawyer for the conservatorship, Sam Ingham, 914 00:59:43,539 --> 00:59:46,834 stated that Britney told him she'd met with a reporter 915 00:59:46,917 --> 00:59:51,339 from Rolling Stone to sign documents about acquiring new counsel. 916 00:59:54,175 --> 00:59:56,969 He went on to say, "Britney does not wish to do that," 917 00:59:57,053 --> 01:00:01,098 and asked him to do whatever is necessary to "squash the document." 918 01:00:01,182 --> 01:00:03,142 She further stated that she was, 919 01:00:03,225 --> 01:00:06,771 "Fully satisfied with my representation of her." 920 01:00:08,230 --> 01:00:13,110 That same day, the attorney she had tried to hire, John Anderson, withdrew, stating, 921 01:00:13,194 --> 01:00:17,823 "I can say no more; will do no more." And, "That is the end for me." 922 01:00:19,492 --> 01:00:23,788 It was another time that Britney had tried to seek her own representation 923 01:00:23,871 --> 01:00:25,539 and it failed. 924 01:00:28,334 --> 01:00:32,254 [Chicotel] It's the conservatee's attorney is the one person in this system 925 01:00:32,338 --> 01:00:36,592 who is tasked with making the conservatee's best case 926 01:00:36,676 --> 01:00:38,761 for whatever the conservatee wants. 927 01:00:38,844 --> 01:00:41,847 I've seen so many instances where those attorneys 928 01:00:41,931 --> 01:00:44,100 are not representing what their clients want. 929 01:00:45,309 --> 01:00:50,606 [Streisand] Keep in mind that the only way that Sam Ingham gets paid 930 01:00:50,690 --> 01:00:54,402 is he has to file a petition with the court, 931 01:00:54,485 --> 01:00:57,321 and then the conservator have the right to object 932 01:00:57,405 --> 01:01:00,366 to him getting paid or the fees he's asking for. 933 01:01:00,449 --> 01:01:04,161 Obviously, there is a natural tendency to say, 934 01:01:04,245 --> 01:01:08,124 "Well, I certainly don't want to be pissing off the people 935 01:01:08,207 --> 01:01:11,836 who are gonna have the ability to object to me getting paid." 936 01:01:13,170 --> 01:01:16,215 [Carr] What is your reaction to knowing that a court-appointed attorney 937 01:01:16,298 --> 01:01:20,886 is making over 3 million dollars, like as-- In this position? 938 01:01:21,846 --> 01:01:26,016 My reaction is that he's on a gravy train and he'll ride it all the way to the end. 939 01:01:29,353 --> 01:01:31,939 [man] Are you concerned for Britney's mental health? 940 01:01:32,022 --> 01:01:33,190 [Carr] By early 2009, 941 01:01:33,274 --> 01:01:37,069 Jamie Spears asked that the temporary conservatorship of his daughter 942 01:01:37,153 --> 01:01:38,446 be made permanent. 943 01:01:39,071 --> 01:01:42,616 And there was a range of new specific powers and privileges 944 01:01:42,700 --> 01:01:44,869 that would be given to the conservatorship, 945 01:01:46,579 --> 01:01:50,708 spanning from using funds from the estate to pay for a car for Jamie… 946 01:01:51,709 --> 01:01:56,464 to giving him more complete control over Britney's personal finances. 947 01:01:59,008 --> 01:02:02,595 Perhaps most importantly, though, the permanent conservatorship 948 01:02:02,678 --> 01:02:07,808 would allow Jamie to pursue professional opportunities available to Britney 949 01:02:07,892 --> 01:02:10,561 once they're approved by her medical team. 950 01:02:14,482 --> 01:02:17,485 -["Circus" playing over speakers] -[scatting] 951 01:02:25,868 --> 01:02:28,454 Britney was preparing for a huge tour, 952 01:02:28,537 --> 01:02:32,041 whatever concerns the conservatorship's medical team had 953 01:02:32,124 --> 01:02:35,753 about her health and overworking seemed to be forgotten. 954 01:02:39,715 --> 01:02:42,802 [Eliscu] First off, ticket sales are going phenomenally well. 955 01:02:42,885 --> 01:02:47,056 Sales have generated about 40 million. 956 01:02:48,432 --> 01:02:51,727 Second, there seems to be an opportunity to add two shows 957 01:02:51,811 --> 01:02:55,815 at the end of the U.S. leg on very attractive financial terms. 958 01:02:55,898 --> 01:02:58,734 So this is before the Circus tour. 959 01:02:59,777 --> 01:03:03,823 They don't even know yet if she's gonna be, like, okay to tour, 960 01:03:03,906 --> 01:03:05,658 -but they're adding more dates. -Right. 961 01:03:05,741 --> 01:03:09,620 They went from temporary conservatorship to permanent conservatorship, 962 01:03:09,703 --> 01:03:12,039 and Circus was that year. 963 01:03:12,122 --> 01:03:17,086 So us noting that there was financial incentives for Larry, for Jamie, 964 01:03:17,169 --> 01:03:22,091 for the lawyers to get her working, A, but get her working more. 965 01:03:22,758 --> 01:03:24,426 [audience cheering] 966 01:03:25,553 --> 01:03:29,181 [Carr] The Circus tour was performed over the course of nine months 967 01:03:29,265 --> 01:03:32,184 and totaled 70 shows spanning the world. 968 01:03:33,060 --> 01:03:36,564 [Eliscu] I've had people tell me that there were conversations explicitly  969 01:03:36,647 --> 01:03:39,358 about how quickly she could come back. 970 01:03:39,441 --> 01:03:41,986 They probably felt like it was important 971 01:03:42,069 --> 01:03:45,990 to show her looking healthy and okay as quickly as possible 972 01:03:46,073 --> 01:03:49,952 to prove that what they decided to do was the right decision. 973 01:03:50,035 --> 01:03:51,203 [man] Britney! 974 01:03:51,287 --> 01:03:52,413 Britney! 975 01:03:53,038 --> 01:03:56,125 [Gallery] There's nothing relaxing about being on a tour. 976 01:03:58,252 --> 01:03:59,879 Flying all over the world, 977 01:03:59,962 --> 01:04:02,715 being in different countries every few days. 978 01:04:02,798 --> 01:04:04,967 [reporter] Are you sick of your dad being conservator? 979 01:04:05,050 --> 01:04:09,346 [Gallery] I can only imagine how stressful and challenging that might be for her. 980 01:04:14,143 --> 01:04:17,187 Was she in the right mental state to put all that time and energy 981 01:04:17,271 --> 01:04:22,359 into doing a whole--? Revamping her entire career and doing this comeback? 982 01:04:25,404 --> 01:04:26,780 It's like, that's hard. 983 01:04:28,407 --> 01:04:33,037 We've had, on background, conversations with people who were on the tour. 984 01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:37,625 They said it was a mess. They said it was bad for Britney's health. 985 01:04:37,708 --> 01:04:38,876 [audience cheering] 986 01:04:38,959 --> 01:04:41,837 [Carr] The conservatorship stated that they had successfully added 987 01:04:41,921 --> 01:04:44,965 financial growth and stability to Britney's life. 988 01:04:48,302 --> 01:04:50,846 "Her main focus, almost to the point of obsession, 989 01:04:50,930 --> 01:04:52,973 was getting more time with her children." 990 01:04:53,515 --> 01:04:57,561 "Her second preoccupation was whether the conservatorship would end 991 01:04:57,645 --> 01:05:01,273 and whether her father Jamie Spears would be more lenient with her privileges." 992 01:05:01,357 --> 01:05:06,904 Oh, man. She gets an allowance, she's got "privileges," 993 01:05:06,987 --> 01:05:09,698 and her daddy is in charge. 994 01:05:10,491 --> 01:05:12,034 That's the patriarchy. 995 01:05:13,452 --> 01:05:14,370 [groans] 996 01:05:14,453 --> 01:05:16,664 [somber music playing] 997 01:05:18,165 --> 01:05:19,833 [Britney squealing] 998 01:05:24,171 --> 01:05:26,882 [Carr] In 2009, Britney had a new boyfriend. 999 01:05:27,549 --> 01:05:29,969 It was her agent, Jason Trawick. 1000 01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:34,390 [Jamie] You need to go over there. 1001 01:05:34,473 --> 01:05:37,935 If you don't go over, we're gonna leave. Y'all ain't gonna get no pictures. 1002 01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:45,901 [Carr] By the fall of 2011, 1003 01:05:45,985 --> 01:05:48,821 he was featured in Britney's music video "Criminal." 1004 01:05:48,904 --> 01:05:52,408 [man groans, grunts] 1005 01:05:52,491 --> 01:05:56,453 [Carr] Jason, newly buff, played her outlaw boyfriend. 1006 01:05:56,537 --> 01:05:57,663 -You okay? -Yeah. 1007 01:05:59,039 --> 01:06:00,040 Wait. 1008 01:06:03,168 --> 01:06:05,254 -Now I'm okay. -[engine revving] 1009 01:06:05,337 --> 01:06:09,675 Jason was, like, a very smart, very sweet, very caring… 1010 01:06:09,758 --> 01:06:13,053 Like, he was one of the guys that I would confide in, 1011 01:06:13,137 --> 01:06:16,140 and we would talk about all that was happening. 1012 01:06:16,223 --> 01:06:18,100 We both had an objective point of view 1013 01:06:18,183 --> 01:06:22,104 because, at the time, neither of us were dating her or engaged to her 1014 01:06:22,187 --> 01:06:23,731 or anything like that. 1015 01:06:23,814 --> 01:06:27,359 ♪ 'Cause mama I'm in love With a criminal ♪ 1016 01:06:28,110 --> 01:06:30,779 ♪ And this type of love isn't rational ♪ 1017 01:06:30,863 --> 01:06:35,034 To see the role that he transitioned into, 1018 01:06:35,117 --> 01:06:37,411 I mean, again, it's like, I never would've seen that coming. 1019 01:06:37,494 --> 01:06:39,621 [woman over speakers] Bet you know what that means. 1020 01:06:40,164 --> 01:06:41,832 [crowd] Britney! 1021 01:06:46,628 --> 01:06:50,549 [Eliscu] So this is from a doctor with the conservatorship to Sam Ingham. 1022 01:06:50,632 --> 01:06:54,261 "I had an interview and assessment session with Jason." 1023 01:06:54,344 --> 01:06:58,390 "I found him to be forthcoming and open, though fearful that whatever he said 1024 01:06:58,474 --> 01:07:01,226 might be held against him or place him at odds with others 1025 01:07:01,310 --> 01:07:03,604 with whom he might need to get along in the future." 1026 01:07:04,104 --> 01:07:06,398 "He appears to be genuinely in love with Britney." 1027 01:07:06,482 --> 01:07:10,861 "His philosophy is Britney will have to learn to live without a conservator." 1028 01:07:10,944 --> 01:07:13,655 "He feels that the present arrangement is too constrictive." 1029 01:07:13,739 --> 01:07:16,867 "Jason states inconveniences Britney has to go through 1030 01:07:16,950 --> 01:07:18,243 under the conservatorship." 1031 01:07:18,327 --> 01:07:21,872 "For example, they wanted to drive within a gated community on a golf cart, 1032 01:07:21,955 --> 01:07:24,416 but have to ask permission each time." 1033 01:07:24,500 --> 01:07:27,127 "If they want to go out to a hamburger joint, 1034 01:07:27,211 --> 01:07:30,839 they have to call for permission and wait 20 minutes or more for an answer." 1035 01:07:30,923 --> 01:07:34,635 "If Britney needs a few hundred dollars to buy books for her kids, 1036 01:07:34,718 --> 01:07:38,472 she has to ask and wait a few days for an answer." 1037 01:07:38,555 --> 01:07:42,226 This was right after Britney finished the huge, giant tour. 1038 01:07:42,309 --> 01:07:44,186 That was Femme Fatale. 1039 01:07:45,062 --> 01:07:46,563 What the fuck? 1040 01:07:47,189 --> 01:07:48,524 Look at the next page. 1041 01:07:49,733 --> 01:07:51,193 "Toward the end of the tour, 1042 01:07:51,276 --> 01:07:54,154 significant tensions arose between Jamie Spears, 1043 01:07:54,238 --> 01:07:56,740 Britney's father and conservator, and Britney." 1044 01:07:56,824 --> 01:07:58,534 [Carr] Right, and then look at this. 1045 01:07:58,617 --> 01:08:00,953 "Britney began to complain about Jamie's drinking." 1046 01:08:01,036 --> 01:08:03,872 "She is especially adamant that Jamie be punished." 1047 01:08:03,956 --> 01:08:06,542 "This seems to be a lightning rod for all of her complaints 1048 01:08:06,625 --> 01:08:08,502 about the conservatorship itself." 1049 01:08:08,585 --> 01:08:13,382 "In a simple way, she feels that if she is drug tested, so should he be." 1050 01:08:13,465 --> 01:08:16,969 "If she were to suffer a great penalty, like losing her kids, 1051 01:08:17,052 --> 01:08:18,887 if she tested positive, 1052 01:08:18,971 --> 01:08:22,099 he should suffer an equally great penalty for his drinking." 1053 01:08:22,182 --> 01:08:27,020 And this is again, the most sort of, some of the most damning stuff. 1054 01:08:27,104 --> 01:08:29,565 "Britney wants to come off the conservatorship." 1055 01:08:29,648 --> 01:08:32,276 [dramatic music playing] 1056 01:08:32,359 --> 01:08:35,946 "At times, she seems to understand the benefits of the conservatorship." 1057 01:08:36,029 --> 01:08:40,450 "She indicates she would go along with the conservatorship of the estate, 1058 01:08:40,534 --> 01:08:44,204 but mostly she wants to end the conservatorship of the person." 1059 01:08:46,373 --> 01:08:49,751 The conservatorship has maintained Britney has never once asked for it 1060 01:08:49,835 --> 01:08:53,005 to be terminated and that if it was that bad, 1061 01:08:53,088 --> 01:08:54,673 she would tell people about it. 1062 01:08:54,756 --> 01:09:00,095 But we have here in evidence that she wanted out of the conservatorship, 1063 01:09:00,179 --> 01:09:03,140 that she was vocalizing that need, and that it was ignored. 1064 01:09:04,308 --> 01:09:05,142 [man exclaims] 1065 01:09:05,225 --> 01:09:09,688 [all] ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 1066 01:09:09,771 --> 01:09:10,606 Really? 1067 01:09:11,773 --> 01:09:15,360 [Carr] In December 2011, Britney and Jason became engaged. 1068 01:09:16,570 --> 01:09:20,574 Four months later, she requested Jason be added as her conservator. 1069 01:09:22,075 --> 01:09:24,494 But instead of Jason replacing Jamie, 1070 01:09:24,578 --> 01:09:27,748 the court ruled in what could be considered a compromise. 1071 01:09:28,457 --> 01:09:32,461 Jason Trawick and Jamie are made co-conservators 1072 01:09:32,544 --> 01:09:34,171 versus Jamie being removed. 1073 01:09:34,254 --> 01:09:36,465 [Eliscu] Which just feels so weird. 1074 01:09:36,548 --> 01:09:39,218 At the time, I thought that it was interesting 1075 01:09:39,301 --> 01:09:42,971 that Jamie would give over even that small amount of control 1076 01:09:43,055 --> 01:09:47,100 to someone theoretically new or a non-family member. 1077 01:09:49,186 --> 01:09:53,273 [Carr] With her father and fiancé as co-conservators of her person, 1078 01:09:53,357 --> 01:09:58,070 Britney inked a reported $15 million deal to judge X Factor. 1079 01:09:58,695 --> 01:10:01,657 Behind the scenes, confidential reports given to us 1080 01:10:01,740 --> 01:10:04,576 showed that the conservatorship was in chaos. 1081 01:10:04,660 --> 01:10:09,289 The medical team thought that X Factor put undue pressure on Britney, 1082 01:10:09,790 --> 01:10:13,585 whereas her management said that withdrawing would be just as bad 1083 01:10:13,669 --> 01:10:15,879 as a publicly observed meltdown. 1084 01:10:15,963 --> 01:10:18,882 Under intense pressure from Britney's management, 1085 01:10:18,966 --> 01:10:22,886 the medical team cautiously approved Britney's participation, 1086 01:10:22,970 --> 01:10:28,100 but said there would be strict guidelines for their approval to stay in place, 1087 01:10:29,309 --> 01:10:33,438 which included that Jason Trawick's presence was, quote, "mandatory." 1088 01:10:34,898 --> 01:10:39,319 And then the big bombshell is that we have direct evidence 1089 01:10:39,403 --> 01:10:44,074 that her medication, the medication that she liked to take, 1090 01:10:44,157 --> 01:10:46,493 was increased if she worked. 1091 01:10:46,576 --> 01:10:49,204 There's different dosages on, 1092 01:10:49,288 --> 01:10:52,874 quote-unquote, "non-work days and work days." 1093 01:10:52,958 --> 01:10:54,167 [Carr] Look at the next page. 1094 01:10:54,876 --> 01:10:57,045 [Eliscu] "On the one hand, Jamie and the team 1095 01:10:57,129 --> 01:11:00,674 valued the benefits of stimulants for Britney's performance." 1096 01:11:00,757 --> 01:11:05,595 "This had been the case for her tours and for her participation on X Factor." 1097 01:11:05,679 --> 01:11:09,808 "By the same token, Jamie wanted Britney not to take stimulants." 1098 01:11:11,268 --> 01:11:13,770 "This contradiction has not been resolved." 1099 01:11:14,730 --> 01:11:16,064 [audience cheering] 1100 01:11:21,236 --> 01:11:22,988 [Carr] From the public's perspective, 1101 01:11:23,071 --> 01:11:26,199 Britney's performance on The X Factor was a success. 1102 01:11:27,659 --> 01:11:31,621 Less than a year later, though, Britney and Jason would break up, 1103 01:11:31,705 --> 01:11:36,043 making Jamie the sole conservator of the person once again. 1104 01:11:36,126 --> 01:11:38,628 [Eliscu] "On the subject of X Factor itself, 1105 01:11:38,712 --> 01:11:41,923 there is estimated to be a 50-50 chance they will invite her to return, 1106 01:11:42,007 --> 01:11:44,301 but at this time it appears that she would decline." 1107 01:11:44,384 --> 01:11:48,347 "Instead, her current plan is to create a Las Vegas-style revue 1108 01:11:48,430 --> 01:11:52,142 to perform at a Las Vegas hotel over three- or four-day weekend dates 1109 01:11:52,225 --> 01:11:53,602 once or twice a month." 1110 01:11:53,685 --> 01:11:55,062 What does it say right after that? 1111 01:11:55,145 --> 01:11:57,314 "I believe this is an appropriate career move 1112 01:11:57,397 --> 01:11:59,816 from the perspective of her psychiatric condition." 1113 01:11:59,900 --> 01:12:01,610 -[audience cheering] -It's so hot. 1114 01:12:02,361 --> 01:12:04,488 Okay, so… 1115 01:12:05,364 --> 01:12:08,700 being single for a year… 1116 01:12:09,826 --> 01:12:10,660 Yeah! 1117 01:12:11,411 --> 01:12:14,873 …has been very, very, very profound. 1118 01:12:15,540 --> 01:12:20,087 And I feel like all men should suck my toe. 1119 01:12:20,629 --> 01:12:24,049 [Carr] Britney's Vegas residency started in 2013, 1120 01:12:24,132 --> 01:12:26,051 and it was called Piece of Me. 1121 01:12:26,134 --> 01:12:30,347 The show would span five years and culminate in a world tour. 1122 01:12:30,430 --> 01:12:33,975 Very little is known about Britney's life during this time period. 1123 01:12:34,059 --> 01:12:37,354 The conservatorship kept her inner circle very small. 1124 01:12:37,979 --> 01:12:40,065 Candid Britney interviews were rare. 1125 01:12:40,148 --> 01:12:43,485 Unguarded public moments only seemed to happen 1126 01:12:43,568 --> 01:12:45,904 when she was talking to her audience. 1127 01:12:45,987 --> 01:12:50,283 Honestly, without the music, just the mic, it kind of feels illegal. 1128 01:12:50,367 --> 01:12:53,120 Like it's quiet right now, and it-- 1129 01:12:53,954 --> 01:12:57,874 It feels kind of illegal doing this with this mic in my hand now. 1130 01:12:57,958 --> 01:12:59,334 It feels so weird. 1131 01:12:59,418 --> 01:13:03,839 Okay, so the press and the media, my whole life, it's really crazy, 1132 01:13:03,922 --> 01:13:08,051 'cause one minute they tear you down and they're really horrible, 1133 01:13:08,135 --> 01:13:11,012 and the next minute, you're on top of the world you know? 1134 01:13:11,638 --> 01:13:13,682 But I just want to make sure 1135 01:13:13,765 --> 01:13:17,436 I keep handing you motherfuckers something to talk about, okay? 1136 01:13:17,519 --> 01:13:19,521 [audience cheering] 1137 01:13:19,604 --> 01:13:22,023 [upbeat music starts playing] 1138 01:13:22,107 --> 01:13:24,234 [Carr] What was it like going to the Vegas show? 1139 01:13:24,317 --> 01:13:27,737 [Baron] When she found out I was there, she wanted to see me backstage. 1140 01:13:27,821 --> 01:13:33,910 And it was like we both just immediately just embraced and just cried, 1141 01:13:33,994 --> 01:13:36,621 just sat there and cried and locked arms. 1142 01:13:36,705 --> 01:13:39,374 We hadn't seen each other in years, hadn't spoken. 1143 01:13:39,458 --> 01:13:43,503 And when I saw her, it's like something in her eyes, 1144 01:13:43,587 --> 01:13:46,423 it was like the old Britney, I guess you can say. 1145 01:13:46,506 --> 01:13:50,844 It was as if we were right back to where we were many, many years before. 1146 01:13:50,927 --> 01:13:53,763 I think that's why we both broke down and cried. 1147 01:13:53,847 --> 01:13:56,558 And her bodyguard walked me back to my seat, 1148 01:13:56,641 --> 01:13:59,728 and he said to me, I remember this, he said, um… 1149 01:14:00,562 --> 01:14:03,356 He goes, "I don't know what you just did to her 1150 01:14:03,440 --> 01:14:07,194 and what your relationship was like, but can you come back more?" 1151 01:14:07,277 --> 01:14:11,114 "In the nine years I've worked for her, I've never seen her smile like that." 1152 01:14:12,908 --> 01:14:16,411 There aren't a lot of people in her life that are from those days. 1153 01:14:16,495 --> 01:14:19,289 It's myself, Felicia and a couple other people. 1154 01:14:22,626 --> 01:14:26,588 I got called back to do Circus Tour, Femme Fatale, 1155 01:14:26,671 --> 01:14:28,715 and then the four years in Vegas. 1156 01:14:28,798 --> 01:14:31,384 I had much less contact with her. 1157 01:14:31,468 --> 01:14:34,763 But I made sure, every show, she knew I was there. 1158 01:14:34,846 --> 01:14:37,474 [Carr] And then did she continue to love performing? 1159 01:14:37,557 --> 01:14:39,518 I mean, it's such an intense schedule. 1160 01:14:39,601 --> 01:14:42,312 What was her relationship like with performing? 1161 01:14:45,232 --> 01:14:46,900 Britney loved performing. 1162 01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,695 Hands down, still to this second, loves performing. 1163 01:14:51,863 --> 01:14:52,864 Um… 1164 01:14:53,532 --> 01:14:56,535 I think that's probably as much as I can say about that. 1165 01:14:57,202 --> 01:14:58,036 [softly] Sorry. 1166 01:14:58,578 --> 01:15:01,957 I don't want to fight with them. It's not worth it to me. 1167 01:15:02,624 --> 01:15:03,625 I'm sorry. 1168 01:15:05,126 --> 01:15:07,462 [ominous music playing] 1169 01:15:07,546 --> 01:15:11,925 [Carr] The one thing we know for sure is that Britney worked almost nonstop 1170 01:15:12,008 --> 01:15:14,719 and made other people a lot of money. 1171 01:15:59,306 --> 01:16:04,144 [announcer] All right, everyone. We are here to welcome the new queen of Vegas! 1172 01:16:04,227 --> 01:16:09,024 [Carr] In January 2019, Britney announced a new Vegas residency. 1173 01:16:09,107 --> 01:16:11,318 It would be called Domination. 1174 01:16:11,401 --> 01:16:13,194 [audience cheering] 1175 01:16:14,779 --> 01:16:18,116 [announcer] Ladies and gentlemen, Britney Spears! 1176 01:16:18,199 --> 01:16:20,619 [Carr] When she walked down the red carpet, 1177 01:16:20,702 --> 01:16:23,663 it felt like she was almost about to say something. 1178 01:16:23,747 --> 01:16:25,040 But then she didn't. 1179 01:16:27,834 --> 01:16:30,003 Three months later, via Instagram, 1180 01:16:30,587 --> 01:16:34,215 Britney would cancel the show, citing family health concerns. 1181 01:16:35,342 --> 01:16:37,177 And the world was watching. 1182 01:16:38,803 --> 01:16:43,975 That was a huge moment when the fan community began to suspect 1183 01:16:44,059 --> 01:16:48,021 that something weird was going on in 2019. 1184 01:16:48,104 --> 01:16:52,942 There was even, like, missing posters being shared around social media. 1185 01:16:53,026 --> 01:16:56,071 Kind of as a joke, but also like we literally haven't seen her 1186 01:16:56,154 --> 01:16:58,114 in, like, weeks, if not months. 1187 01:16:58,198 --> 01:17:00,992 And cut to April 2019, 1188 01:17:01,076 --> 01:17:06,373 we find out that Britney was placed into a mental health facility against her will. 1189 01:17:06,456 --> 01:17:11,086 That's what is believed, and she was being given medication she did not wanna take. 1190 01:17:12,212 --> 01:17:16,549 I know that there are a lot of voices 1191 01:17:16,633 --> 01:17:19,386 I've heard from many different quarters 1192 01:17:19,469 --> 01:17:24,641 that Britney is being held as a prisoner, in effect, against her will. 1193 01:17:25,225 --> 01:17:29,354 And when I've been asked do I think that's accurate, 1194 01:17:30,021 --> 01:17:33,817 I think you have to say to yourself 1195 01:17:33,900 --> 01:17:40,031 it's not as if Los Angeles is some type of fascist gulag, 1196 01:17:40,115 --> 01:17:43,326 where, in order to get a message to the outside world, 1197 01:17:43,410 --> 01:17:47,580 you have to write it down on a piece of birch bark and in code, 1198 01:17:47,664 --> 01:17:52,001 then throw it over an electrified fence to an unsuspecting gardener. 1199 01:17:52,085 --> 01:17:55,922 If she wanted to get a message out as far as being held against her will, 1200 01:17:56,005 --> 01:17:59,718 I can't even imagine the numbers of ways she can do that. 1201 01:18:00,510 --> 01:18:05,014 [Carr] Eventually, Britney resurfaced via an Instagram video. 1202 01:18:05,598 --> 01:18:09,936 Hi, guys. Just checking in with all of you who are concerned. All is well. 1203 01:18:10,019 --> 01:18:13,064 My family has been going through a lot of stress and anxiety lately, 1204 01:18:13,148 --> 01:18:17,235 so I just needed time to deal. Don't worry, I'll be back very soon. 1205 01:18:17,736 --> 01:18:20,905 [Carr] The video only increased public speculation. 1206 01:18:21,406 --> 01:18:24,242 What was going on inside the conservatorship, 1207 01:18:24,325 --> 01:18:27,537 and why was she in one if she was, quote, "okay"? 1208 01:18:37,255 --> 01:18:39,924 [Eliscu] We know that in summer of 2019, 1209 01:18:40,008 --> 01:18:44,554 after there was already beginning to be some chaos in the conservatorship 1210 01:18:44,637 --> 01:18:48,433 for the first time in more than a decade, that there was an incident 1211 01:18:48,516 --> 01:18:52,771 where a confrontation occurred between Jamie and one of Britney's sons. 1212 01:18:52,854 --> 01:18:56,483 And Kevin Federline, you know, his father and Britney's ex, 1213 01:18:56,566 --> 01:18:58,526 had a restraining order filed against Jamie, 1214 01:18:58,610 --> 01:19:02,781 such that he's not allowed to be in the presence of the children 1215 01:19:02,864 --> 01:19:05,742 for a specified period of years. 1216 01:19:05,825 --> 01:19:08,870 [Carr] What's been in public record is there was an altercation, 1217 01:19:08,953 --> 01:19:12,582 a door was broken down, one of her sons was shaken. 1218 01:19:13,458 --> 01:19:19,339 Um, the restraining order was based on an unauthorized-- 1219 01:19:20,048 --> 01:19:23,593 Uh, let's just say it had to do with conduct 1220 01:19:23,676 --> 01:19:26,763 that put the children in fear of their safety. 1221 01:19:26,888 --> 01:19:28,681 How did a door get broken? 1222 01:19:29,349 --> 01:19:30,183 Um… 1223 01:19:31,392 --> 01:19:34,354 I think a door was slammed in some regard, 1224 01:19:34,437 --> 01:19:38,817 and, uh, it caused the door to come off the hinge or something in that regard. 1225 01:19:39,484 --> 01:19:41,486 [ominous music playing] 1226 01:19:47,826 --> 01:19:49,786 [Carr] At the end of 2019, 1227 01:19:49,869 --> 01:19:53,081 Lou Taylor resurfaced in court documents. 1228 01:19:53,164 --> 01:19:56,626 She had e-mailed Jamie, saying her company, Tri Star, 1229 01:19:56,709 --> 01:20:01,172 had lost $400,000 in billing in 2019 1230 01:20:01,256 --> 01:20:03,842 for work as Britney's business manager. 1231 01:20:03,925 --> 01:20:07,804 She requested a minimum of $500,000. 1232 01:20:09,889 --> 01:20:12,767 Yet it was a time when Britney wasn't working. 1233 01:20:14,853 --> 01:20:17,355 When Jamie was sent a bill the month later, 1234 01:20:17,438 --> 01:20:19,274 he paid the funds the next day. 1235 01:20:22,819 --> 01:20:27,699 This is what Jamie Spears, in July 2020, 1236 01:20:27,782 --> 01:20:30,451 said of Britney Spears, 1237 01:20:30,535 --> 01:20:33,037 of the conservatorship and the need for it. 1238 01:20:34,289 --> 01:20:35,540 Why don't we do here? 1239 01:20:36,583 --> 01:20:40,336 "James P. Spears respectfully submits this status update 1240 01:20:40,420 --> 01:20:44,424 to provide information in advance of and regarding some of the topics 1241 01:20:44,507 --> 01:20:46,551 that were addressed at the last hearing." 1242 01:20:46,634 --> 01:20:52,015 "The conservatee, Britney, has refused to engage in any business activities, 1243 01:20:52,098 --> 01:20:56,060 including making a non-performing appearance at a local pop-up store 1244 01:20:56,144 --> 01:20:59,355 dedicated to the conservatee, where minimal effort was required, 1245 01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:03,234 resulting in the estate being required to refund the advance it had received 1246 01:21:03,318 --> 01:21:05,612 in the amount of $1 million." 1247 01:21:05,695 --> 01:21:07,655 [Carr] "The conservatee's lack of cooperation 1248 01:21:07,739 --> 01:21:09,198 in her own financial well-being 1249 01:21:09,282 --> 01:21:12,744 and preservation of her continued stature as an iconic artist 1250 01:21:12,827 --> 01:21:15,079 has deteriorated rather than improved." 1251 01:21:15,163 --> 01:21:17,123 "As a result of the conservatee's trajectory, 1252 01:21:17,206 --> 01:21:19,709 Mr. Spears has been working to establish a model 1253 01:21:19,792 --> 01:21:22,921 where Ms. Spear's current lifestyle can be preserved 1254 01:21:23,004 --> 01:21:26,591 and her needs met based solely on passive income." 1255 01:21:26,674 --> 01:21:28,635 "Given the state of the economy 1256 01:21:28,718 --> 01:21:31,137 and this enormous cost of maintaining her lifestyle, 1257 01:21:31,220 --> 01:21:32,972 this is a tall order." 1258 01:21:33,056 --> 01:21:36,059 Her lifestyle, which includes all these legal bills. 1259 01:21:42,148 --> 01:21:45,526 All of these interviews and all of these hours talking to her 1260 01:21:45,610 --> 01:21:49,739 and describing her and criticizing her and limiting her, 1261 01:21:49,822 --> 01:21:53,993 and none of this led to anything. 1262 01:21:54,077 --> 01:21:55,578 It just all stayed the same. 1263 01:21:55,662 --> 01:22:00,041 They could go into court a million times, keep doing hearing after hearing, 1264 01:22:00,124 --> 01:22:02,961 filing after filing, and analysis after analysis, 1265 01:22:03,044 --> 01:22:06,965 and never change anything, and she's still in this situation. 1266 01:22:07,924 --> 01:22:09,634 -How do you get out? -I just-- 1267 01:22:10,301 --> 01:22:12,971 You don't get out until you scream. 1268 01:22:13,054 --> 01:22:15,056 [emotional music playing] 1269 01:22:31,698 --> 01:22:34,909 [Carr] If you were able to speak to her, what would you tell her? 1270 01:22:34,993 --> 01:22:36,119 What would you say? 1271 01:22:36,703 --> 01:22:38,413 [Gallery] I feel like, maybe I'd apologize. 1272 01:22:38,496 --> 01:22:40,999 I feel like I didn't, you know, do enough, 1273 01:22:41,082 --> 01:22:44,085 and maybe I would just… let her know 1274 01:22:44,168 --> 01:22:47,588 that I felt bad about not being able to help more. 1275 01:22:48,881 --> 01:22:52,260 I don't understand how the legal system has let this go on for so long. 1276 01:22:52,343 --> 01:22:57,015 Maybe it's like the first one of its kind and they don't know how to handle it, 1277 01:22:57,098 --> 01:22:59,726 but it seems like it's an epic fail of the legal system 1278 01:22:59,809 --> 01:23:02,061 that this has gone on for so long 1279 01:23:02,145 --> 01:23:04,856 and that there's been no resolution even. 1280 01:23:04,939 --> 01:23:06,774 It just seems like it keeps getting worse. 1281 01:23:11,404 --> 01:23:16,409 It feels like something's gonna happen. Definitely, something's gonna happen. 1282 01:23:17,744 --> 01:23:19,746 -[man] What do we want? -[crowd] Free Britney! 1283 01:23:19,829 --> 01:23:21,330 -[man] When do we want it? -[crowd] Now! 1284 01:23:21,414 --> 01:23:23,249 -[man] What do we want? -[crowd] Free Britney! 1285 01:23:23,332 --> 01:23:25,501 -[man] When do we want it? -[crowd] Now! 1286 01:23:26,044 --> 01:23:27,045 So you're in? 1287 01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:29,130 It's not playing anything. 1288 01:23:30,173 --> 01:23:31,758 It's 4:30. [laughs] 1289 01:23:31,841 --> 01:23:33,468 [groans] 1290 01:23:35,344 --> 01:23:37,513 [Carr] This is us trying to get into the court hearing. 1291 01:23:37,597 --> 01:23:39,223 [Eliscu laughs] 1292 01:23:39,307 --> 01:23:40,391 [crowd] Free Britney now! 1293 01:23:40,475 --> 01:23:43,227 Today will be the first time she will speak. 1294 01:23:43,311 --> 01:23:46,981 At stake is control of the 39-year-old singer's career 1295 01:23:47,065 --> 01:23:49,275 and $60 million fortune. 1296 01:23:51,277 --> 01:23:53,279 [suspenseful music playing] 1297 01:23:59,702 --> 01:24:02,038 [inaudible dialogue] 1298 01:24:08,961 --> 01:24:13,758 Going through introductions- slash-formalities, Britney says, quote, 1299 01:24:18,096 --> 01:24:20,598 [Britney] I have a lot to say, so bear with me. 1300 01:24:22,433 --> 01:24:26,938 I don't think I was heard on any level when I came to court the last time. 1301 01:24:28,231 --> 01:24:31,150 I brought four sheets of paper in my hand and wrote in length 1302 01:24:31,234 --> 01:24:34,195 what I had been through the last four months before I came there. 1303 01:24:34,695 --> 01:24:38,366 The people who did that to me should not be able to walk away so easily. 1304 01:24:38,449 --> 01:24:39,492 I'll recap. 1305 01:24:40,034 --> 01:24:43,162 I was on tour. My management said if I don't do this, 1306 01:24:43,246 --> 01:24:45,456 I will have to find an attorney, and by contract, 1307 01:24:45,540 --> 01:24:49,585 my own management could sue me if I didn't follow through with the tour. 1308 01:24:49,669 --> 01:24:51,212 It was very threatening and scary, 1309 01:24:51,295 --> 01:24:54,257 and with the conservatorship, I couldn't even get my own attorney. 1310 01:24:54,340 --> 01:24:57,176 So, out of fear, I went ahead and I did the tour. 1311 01:24:57,677 --> 01:25:01,722 When I came off that tour, a new show in Las Vegas was supposed to take place. 1312 01:25:01,806 --> 01:25:04,183 I started rehearsing early, but it was hard 1313 01:25:04,267 --> 01:25:08,229 'cause I'd been doing Vegas for four years and I needed a break in between. 1314 01:25:08,312 --> 01:25:11,983 But, no, I was told, "This is the timeline and this is how it's gonna go." 1315 01:25:12,608 --> 01:25:15,444 I was basically directing most of the show. 1316 01:25:15,528 --> 01:25:18,990 I taught my dancers my new choreography myself. 1317 01:25:19,073 --> 01:25:21,909 I wasn't good. I was great. 1318 01:25:22,785 --> 01:25:24,787 [dramatic music playing] 1319 01:25:28,291 --> 01:25:32,211 They said, if I don't want to do the new Vegas show, I don't have to. 1320 01:25:32,295 --> 01:25:35,339 It was like lifting, literally, 200 pounds off of me. 1321 01:25:36,674 --> 01:25:40,344 He immediately, the next day, put me on lithium out of nowhere. 1322 01:25:40,428 --> 01:25:43,014 He took me off my normal meds I'd been on for five years. 1323 01:25:43,097 --> 01:25:46,475 And lithium is a very, very strong and completely different medication 1324 01:25:46,559 --> 01:25:48,019 compared to what I was used to. 1325 01:25:48,686 --> 01:25:51,105 Not only did my family not do a goddamn thing, 1326 01:25:51,189 --> 01:25:52,648 my dad was all for it. 1327 01:25:53,441 --> 01:25:55,651 He loved every minute of it. 1328 01:25:55,735 --> 01:25:58,988 The control he had over someone as powerful as me… 1329 01:26:00,364 --> 01:26:03,826 100,000% he loved it. 1330 01:26:06,037 --> 01:26:09,081 That's why I'm telling you this again, two years later, 1331 01:26:09,165 --> 01:26:12,543 after I've lied and told the whole world I'm okay and happy, 1332 01:26:12,627 --> 01:26:13,628 it's a lie. 1333 01:26:13,711 --> 01:26:17,215 I thought maybe I said that enough, maybe I might become happy 1334 01:26:17,298 --> 01:26:20,009 because I've been in denial, I've been in shock. 1335 01:26:20,092 --> 01:26:21,719 I am traumatized. 1336 01:26:22,386 --> 01:26:24,222 But now I'm telling you the truth. 1337 01:26:24,305 --> 01:26:26,015 I'm not happy. I can't sleep. 1338 01:26:26,098 --> 01:26:30,019 I'm so angry, it's insane. And I'm depressed. I cry every day. 1339 01:26:30,102 --> 01:26:32,271 The reason I'm telling you this is because I don't think 1340 01:26:32,355 --> 01:26:35,608 how the state of California can have all this written in the court documents 1341 01:26:35,691 --> 01:26:38,027 from the time I showed up and do absolutely nothing. 1342 01:26:38,110 --> 01:26:42,156 Ma'am, my dad and anyone involved in this conservatorship should be in jail. 1343 01:26:42,823 --> 01:26:46,077 The last time I spoke to you, it made me feel like I was dead, 1344 01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:47,495 like I didn't matter. 1345 01:26:47,578 --> 01:26:50,831 I'm telling you this again, so maybe you can understand the depth 1346 01:26:50,915 --> 01:26:54,627 and the degree and the damage that they did to me back then. 1347 01:26:54,710 --> 01:26:58,130 It's embarrassing and demoralizing what I've been through, 1348 01:26:58,214 --> 01:27:00,925 and that's the main reason I've never said it openly. 1349 01:27:01,008 --> 01:27:02,593 And I didn't want to say it openly 1350 01:27:02,677 --> 01:27:05,471 'cause I honestly didn't think anyone would believe me. 1351 01:27:06,681 --> 01:27:09,976 I just want my life back. It's been 13 years and it's enough. 1352 01:27:10,059 --> 01:27:13,104 It makes no sense whatsoever for the state of California to sit back 1353 01:27:13,187 --> 01:27:16,607 and literally watch me make a living for so many people 1354 01:27:16,691 --> 01:27:19,151 and be told I'm not good enough. 1355 01:27:19,986 --> 01:27:21,862 But I'm great at what I do. 1356 01:27:33,666 --> 01:27:37,169 [audience chanting] Britney, Britney, Britney! 1357 01:27:38,129 --> 01:27:40,715 [Britney] I feel ganged up on, and I feel bullied, 1358 01:27:40,798 --> 01:27:43,467 and I feel left out and alone. 1359 01:27:43,551 --> 01:27:45,803 And I'm tired of feeling alone. 1360 01:27:45,886 --> 01:27:48,723 I deserve to have the same rights as anybody does 1361 01:27:48,806 --> 01:27:52,518 by having a child, a family, any of those things. 1362 01:27:53,602 --> 01:27:55,229 That's all I wanted to say to you, 1363 01:27:55,313 --> 01:27:58,190 and thank you so much for letting me speak to you today. 1364 01:28:07,241 --> 01:28:09,243 [pensive music playing] 1365 01:29:45,673 --> 01:29:47,675 [pensive music continues]