If you know anything
about Catherine McCain's death you need to tell me.
We know Bobby Moran didn't kill Catherine McCain.
Bobby lies all the time.
You have to tell the police Cara's your alibi.
Oh, God, Cara.
You are part of him setting me up.
Joe, that is ridiculous.
Why would someone want to set you up for murder?
Why would anyone hate me enough to do that? I don't know.
I've never fallen out of love with you. Never.
Bobby Morgan submitted a request to view his file.
What names would he have seen?
Well, maybe, we're all being punished.
Oh, Jesus, I condemned his dad to being a paedophile.
I'm trying to track down someone I used to worked with
in Liverpool, years ago.
Mr Erskine?
Neighbours said Rupert Erskine was quiet.
No-one had anything to say apart from he kept bees.
He's been there a week, maybe two.
There's no sign of wounds or any trauma to indicate violence.
With his mouth taped shut
cause of death was probably dehydration.
It would have taken him a long time to die
in considerable pain and discomfort.
So, someone really didn't like him.
It was a punishment killing.
Thank you.
We need to find out what Erskine's connection to O'Loughlin was,
other than them having worked together.
Erskine knew something?
Something O'Loughlin didn't want coming to the surface?
But why the cruelty?
And why would O'Loughlin ask Rachael Fenwick
to find Erskine for him, if he killed him two weeks ago?
He assumed we were listening in on his calls,
and he wanted to seem innocent.
A jury might buy it.
It's what he's done all along, sir, he's trying to play us.
Mm.
Well, along with Bobby's family,
maybe there's another list of people whose safety we need to consider,
the people he worked with in Liverpool.
I'll get onto that.
And how we doing with tracing Morgan's family?
Well, there isn't many to trace.
I mean, we're still trying to locate a half-brother in Australia.
And O'Loughlin, do we think he's still in Liverpool?
They swamped the area around the Land Rover
and they're still looking. Thank you.
So, he does this every day? Yeah.
Come rain or shine, his wife said.
Painting over the graffiti, his way of fighting the drug gangs.
There he is.
He was a great social worker.
He helped push through the court order for Bobby's dad.
Doesn't look like he's in a good way, does he?
No. I'm hoping he can tell us
who might've poisoned his daughter, though.
I just don't wanna cause him any more pain.
Wish me luck.
DOG BARKING
Lucas.
Hi.
It's Joe O'Loughlin?
I don't know if you remember me, we worked together, years ago.
Thanks to you, my wife talked to me last night.
First time in months.
Actual words got spoken.
She had a call from Melinda.
And I asked her questions.
She answered. It was almost normal.
Lucas...
do you mind telling what happened to your daughter, Sonia?
Why?
Because I don't think her death was an accident.
I've been waiting for a long time for someone to say that.
I've always said it wasn't.
She never took drugs, never.
The police wouldn't take it seriously.
What have you found out? What exactly happened to her?
Just tell me what you know!
Please, Lucas, just tell me if you can.
She was in her first year at uni.
She went to a club.
Somebody gave her a drug.
Three weeks in a coma,
she never regained consciousness and she wasn't going to.
We argued about turning off her life support.
I wanted to remember her the way she was, and...
she was beautiful.
LUCAS SNIFFS
Do you know who gave her the drug?
I talked to her friends who saw her dancing with him.
It was dark, but...
they said he wasn't a student, he-he was much older than Sonia.
He was older?
Yeah.
Confident and good-looking...
was what they said.
Right.
So what have you found out?
When we worked together
at social services, 13 years ago, we had a child welfare case.
We accused a man of abusing his eight-year-old son.
We got it wrong.
The man killed himself.
Now his son has grown up and taken revenge.
What? It's not your fault, you didn't...
It wasn't your case, you did nothing wrong,
you were just helping out, doing your job.
And he killed Sonia?
I... I think he could be connected somehow, yeah.
Well, if he... if he wanted to punish me,
why not hurt me, kill me?
I'm so sorry Lucas.
My daughter!
LUCAS SOBS Sorry, I'm so sorry,
I will do everything in my power to get at the truth.
Whoever gave Sonia that drug, it wasn't Bobby Morgan.
Did you ever meet Jack Owens?
Lucas could have just described him to me, it...
Where's just too many coincidences linking him to Catherine's murder
for him not to be involved.
Mel... I don't want you involved in this any more.
I don't want the police coming after you for helping me.
It's as much my fault.
HE SIGHS
Boyd would still be alive.
The parents of that teacher, Lucas's daughter...
No, you did nothing wrong, it was a mistake.
It's all it was.
I gotta get back to Julianne and Charlie.
Take my car.
You might never get it back.
Well, how else are you gonna get back to London
without being arrested?
Mel, thank you.
Oh, yeah... HE CLEARS THROAT
I stole this too.
It's my only hope of proving my innocence.
Joe, you...
You can't keep running.
Go to the police,
tell them what you've found out.
Just a minute, Charlie.
Leave us alone.
Mrs O'Loughlin, we're just doing our job.
My husband hasn't contacted me, I have no idea where he is.
Well, if he tries to make contact, please get him to turn himself in.
Charlie!
Have you seen my daughter? She was right there.
Charlie!
INDISTINCT CONVERSATION
There she is.
It's OK, it's OK. Oh, my baby...
It's all right. I found her, um...
She was hiding behind some bushes, I think...
I think she's feeling a bit neglected.
Hey, hey, it's OK. It's OK. She's OK.
How did you know where we were? Oh, your, um...
your plumber said.
I, um...
Yeah, I just... Look, I just... I just wanted to apologise.
Leave us alone, Jack. I just wanted to let you know how...
Later.
OK.
PHONE RINGING TONE
'Ruis, yes.'
We've just had a call from the cemetery,
one of the groundsmen found a spade hidden under leaves.
What? I thought we did a thorough search?
How come it's only turning up now?
Well, this one was well hidden. We're getting it tested,
to see if there's any trace of O'Loughlin on it.
Get them to analyse any soil deposits from the spade
and compare them to samples from Catherine's grave, right?
And we think he's on his way back to London.
Melinda Cossimo couldn't account for where her car was last night
and then it flagged up on cameras heading south.
'We've got an alert out for it now.'
Well, double the presence outside his house.
I wanna know where his wife and daughter are at every minute.
Sir. PHONE BUZZES
LABOURED BREATHING
Thanks for coming alone, Detective.
How do you know I have?
Because you're an honest man.
My wife and child need protection. They've got it.
Right, come on...
let's go.
We'll go down together. I'll go with you...
but I want you to look at the evidence first.
What evidence?
This evidence.
Fine. Pick it up, come with me, I'll look at it.
That...
is Bobby Morgan's social services file
from when he was a child, and everything else I've uncovered.
It lays out his motive
for framing me for Catherine and Cara's murder.
He didn't kill either of them!
But he's been driving this, and Jack Owens,
he's involved as well. What? Your best friend?
Your best friend who's been defending you
and has an alibi for that very night.
Jack fits the description of a man who drugged a young woman,
she went into a coma, Detective, and never recovered.
She's the daughter of a man that I used to work with in Liverpool.
It's all linked. It's in the file, just please read it.
Yeah?
Well, we've got evidence too.
New evidence that will nail you to the burying of Catherine.
I bet your prints will be all over the spade that dug her grave.
But the spade was planted.
It was placed against my mother's headstone,
no-one knew that we'd be at the cemetery that day.
Two people that did know? Morgan and Owens.
They-They knew that I'd touch it, they knew that I'd move it.
Just pick it up... and come with me!
Listen to me, Detective,
everyone who has worked on Bobby Morgan's case
has lost somebody that they've loved.
Now, there's a man, his name is Rupert Erskine,
he's in danger, you need to warn him.
His details, everything is in that file.
I've tried to contact him, I can't get him.
What?
Erskine's dead.
Erskine is dead.
How? When?
I need to take you into custody, you'll be safe there.
No, that's not gonna work. That's not gonna stop them,
they're gonna go after Julianne and Charlie.
I've told you, we're at your house, your family are safe.
I'll contact you when you've read the evidence, all right?
Look, I've come out on a limb for you.
I've heard your side of it! Detective, look at the evidence!
Big breaths, Detective.
Big deep breaths.
Come on, you got this.
I can't move.
You can. Take a step, keep breathing.
That's good, you're nearly there.
Yep, last bit.
Good job.
Sir!
We located the car,
O'Loughlin dumped it near the City Of Westminster Hospital.
Got him!
40 minutes ago, on top of the hospital roof.
He met with someone.
No need to search for an ID.
Yeah, that's me.
HE EXHALES DEEPLY
KNOCKING AT DOOR
Hey!
Look, I know... I know I've been stupid,
beyond stupid, some might even say uber stupid.
Yes, you have, Jack.
I just...
I can't leave it...
like this between us.
I don't see how things between you and Joe are ever gonna get repaired.
I literally don't know what else I can do!
You saw. I went straight to the police,
I clarified everything about me and Catherine and the journal,
I pleaded his innocence, for the second time.
I don't know how you stay so loyal to him,
given everything he's put you through, all the lies.
The prostitute... I just... It...
It just doesn't seem fair.
You know, this...
this idea of-of banishment,
of-of never being able to... to see you again.
I... Oh, God, no!
Jesus!
Jack!
SHE EXHALES DEEPLY
Joe's right about you.
You are too screwed up to maintain a relationship of your own,
so you try to take over other people's.
It was never a choice between Joe or you.
Never. Ever.
He didn't steal me from you. I never even noticed you were there.
Everything all right, Mrs O'Loughlin?
Yes, thank you, DJ.
We're fine. Thank you.
Do you mind?
Jack!
Please leave.
Just go.
Are you done?
Yeah, everything's up and running, so, I'll, er...
I'll be back with a lad to help me clear away and load up the van.
Great.
DISTANT SIRENS WAIL
Bobby! Bobby, pay attention.
The judges don't like it
when the guilty don't pay them enough attention, all right?
And remember, when you're in court,
you are like putty in everyone's hands.
They'll have read your "I'm really, really sorry
"for hitting that nice lady" statement,
and I'll argue diminished responsibility.
It might stick.
But she'll more than likely want to send you to jail
for a couple of months. She's a bit like that.
So... what are you?
Like putty, Eddie, that's what I am.
Good man.
How we doing?
No trace of him.
We're still ploughing through O'Loughlin's "evidence".
Listen...
I know I made a bad call on that roof...
I just don't understand why you went on your own.
Well, you know, I... I thought I could bring him in.
I didn't know he'd be on a roof or that he'd worked out...
I have a fear of heights.
But this information that he's given us,
we've gotta treat it seriously.
I phoned forensics,
they've got his finger prints all over that spade that we found.
That is him guilty, Sir.
I'll need to see the full report.
Well, I think we're wasting time looking at his "evidence".
He's got us running round in circles again.
We can't ignore what O'Loughlin's given us.
We need to look at everything,
even if it's so's that we don't trip up in court, right?
Now, it's not in O'Loughlin's dossier,
but Judge John Bryant made the judgement on Lenny Morgan
being barred from seeing his son.
Find out if anything happened to him
or any of his family.
OK?
Thank you.
You're with me.
I've got an idea where O'Loughlin is.
Oh, er... you are lucky, Bobby.
Very lucky.
I think the psych report swung it for you.
Now, understand that probation doesn't mean
you just get to walk away, all right?
You gotta follow the rules and do what you're... told.
Yeah, you're welcome.
So, you got off with probation, then?
Lucky man! I have nothing to say to you, Joe.
They're gonna investigate those murders. Oh, my God.
You're not gonna have an alibi for all of them. What murders?
The revenge killings! I have no idea what you're...
Whatever. For what happened to Lenny.
He never was a good dad, was he? Nah, you were wrong about him.
He was a weak man. A weak man!
Weak! You don't know what you're talking about!
He took the easy way out! Hey!
Hit me! You know nothing!
I am arresting you on suspicion of the murders of Catherine McCain
and Cara Velasco. He's a dangerous man!
You do not have to say anything. It may harm your defence
if you do not mention when questioned
something which you rely on in court.
Anything you do say may be given in evidence.
Have you looked at the evidence yet?
Don't let him go this time, he'll hurt me. Please.
Bobby, please calm down. He's dangerous!
Take him to his hostel, have an FLO make sure he's OK.
He's a dangerous man. You're not gonna let him walk off?
Thank you. He's the one you should be arresting.
No, no. Enough!
Come on, Bobby.
He threatened me, he did. Bobby.
This is me.
I'll be just out here.
So, you lied to us
about returning home the night Catherine McCain was murdered.
It wasn't "around midnight", it was around 4am.
Yeah. Detective Inspector,
my client has made a clear and honest statement
about the one lie that he has told you,
he was trying to protect his...
So, now you want us to believe that you were with Cara Velasco
between 11pm and 3:30 the following morning?
Because I was. Well, conveniently for you,
she can't refute that claim, can she?
And you were seen running away from her flat
the evening that she was murdered.
I got to Cara's flat, the door was busted open,
I saw her laying on the floor, strangled.
So, why didn't you call us?
I was already being set up for Catherine's murder,
and you did nothing to help me, why would I call you?
And you stole Cara's car.
HE SIGHS Yeah, I stole her car.
Oh, please, tell me you have looked at the evidence by now,
you must have seen that I have no connection to these murders!
Murders to punish my former colleagues,
what are you on about? We're not connecting you to them.
You're a suspect in the murders
of Catherine McCain and Cara Velasco.
Yeah, but it's all linked, isn't it? No, we're not convinced by that.
You and others making an error of judgement,
all those years ago,
and an understandable error
in an overworked social services department?
And the enormity of the punishment you say that's been inflicted?
I don't know, it doesn't make sense.
No, it doesn't make any sense to me either.
I absolutely agree with you.
It's excessive beyond all reason.
Something dark, and-and terrible must have happened to that child.
It's always about childhood, is it, with you psychologists?
Yeah.
Yeah, it is. It is always about childhood.
No child is ever born cruel.
Cruelty is learnt.
And then hurt dishes out hurt.
And how's Dr Owens involved?
He's the only person that I can think of
who fits the description of the man who drugged Sonia Dutton.
PHONE BUZZES
And he lied to you about his affair with Catherine
to make me look guilty, and to-to damage my marriage.
Does that not count for anything?
Sir?
Can we take a break?
Yes. Interview terminated.
We just heard back from Judge Bryant,
the guy who signed the court order on Morgan's dad.
His wife broke her neck in a riding accident.
A car swerved into the path of her horse.
When? Eight months ago.
The driver didn't stop, but there was a witness,
and they thought it was deliberate.
She gave a description.
It matches that of the man that drugged Sonia Dutton.
But the link between these murders, even if they are punishments,
O'Loughlin hasn't been punished in the same way,
being set up for murder doesn't fit the pattern
of having someone you love taken away from you.
So, what makes O'Loughlin different to the others?
Why set him up for two murders?
He was hardly connected to the case.
But he signed the court report.
If Morgan saw the file, if he saw O'Loughlin's signature,
that might make O'Loughlin more culpable in Morgan's eyes, right?
Has anything come from forensics for me?
Ah, yes, just now, sir.
So, you said that you found a spade
leant against your mother's gravestone?
Yeah.
I just picked it up and moved it.
How?
I just picked it up and moved it.
With one hand?
Yeah. Over to the path.
Yeah...
Yeah.
See, you being set up...
you know what tips me into believing it?
I'm not a lucky man.
God knows I've never been a lucky cop.
But the spade that buried Catherine McCain,
turning up at just the right time,
the one piece of evidence that nails you?
I never get evidence like that, ever!
What? Just when I need it? Nah. No, that's not me.
Whoever it is, they pushed it too far.
And, you know, I had forensics take a look at your prints.
And you did only use one hand.
And, on reflection,
the prints were too good to have been under leaves for two weeks.
The spade was carefully stored and... planted.
And you don't dig a grave with one hand, right?
So...
...and I can't believe I'm gonna say this, but...
we're back to where we started,
which is asking a psychologist for help.
JOE CHUCKLES GENTLY
JOE BREATHES DEEPLY
You're released... while we investigate further.
JOE CHUCKLES GENTLY
OK?
Yes.
'We'll take you home,
'we'll have some officers stay with you for safety.
'But, Joe...
'stay there.'
Bring in Dr Gerald Owens and Bobby Morgan for questioning.
Hello, sir.
Come with us, please.
Yeah.
Where is he?
How did this happen?
I'm here to look after him, not go to the toilet with him.
How long ago?
About, er... 40, 45 minutes.
SHE SIGHS
Hi. Hiya.
It's DJ, right?
Yeah.
How's it going? Er... yeah, all good.
Julianne and Charlie around?
Yeah, somewhere. Just fixing one last thing.
Yeah.
'A sealed bid.'
'Five... hundred pounds.'
Julianne?
Charlie?
Why'd they have to let you go, eh, Joe?
A few more minutes, mate, and we would've been gone.
GAS HISSING
The plumber and his cheery little assistant.
Don't try anything or you know what'll happen, Joe.
Put your phone on the table, sit down.
Now.
GAS HISSING CONTINUES
Come on, Joe. Chop, chop.
GAS HISSING, TIMER BEEPS
BEEPING
It's running.
Eh, it's gonna be a gas leak, Joe.
A big, massive explosion, mate.
Bang! BOTH WHIMPER
Put your hands behind your back. Come on.
You know I had this, yeah?
I had this in my pocket every single session I endured with you.
The report on my dad...
that you signed. Do you remember? Yeah?
I shouldn't have signed that, Bobby, I'm sorry.
I should've done more.
Hey, hey, did you hear that? Did you hear that, brother?
Hey, he's sorry that he drove our dad to suicide.
Eh, can you believe that?
You know if you would've come back an hour later...
...you would've been reminded of your mother's incineration.
A bit like our dad.
Our dad died in an explosion, you know, Joe?
Yeah, after being accused of something terrible
that he never did.
Then again, you probably already knew that didn't you, eh?
With your little detective work, Joe.
JULIANNE WHIMPERS
The timer on the explosion can't be stopped, by the way.
If you tamper with it...
...it'll blow. There and then.
DJ, take Charlie with you. DJ!
Take Charlie!
DJ!
KNOCKING AT DOOR
Open up, please. It's the police.
KNOCKING
It's the police!
Hi.
Sorry, we-we were asleep with the exhaustion of it all.
It's been a long day.
Well, I need to make sure everything's all right.
Is it?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, I'm fine.
Why, is something wrong?
Bobby Morgan's gone missing.
He might be a threat to you.
These extra officers will remain outside.
Great.
I...
I hope you find him.
Thanks for letting me know.
Even if you had nothing to do with Catherine's murder,
you have obstructed our investigation from the start.
Look, I may have unwittingly omitted certain facts,
but not deliberately or knowingly so.
I'm just trying to understand...
why O'Loughlin thought of you as a good friend.
JACK CHUCKLES GENTLY
Mm.
Well, truth is, I've...
I've never really thought of him as a real friend.
KNOCKING AT DOOR Sir.
DS Devi needs a word.
'Sir?'
We know Bobby Morgan's half-brother, Dafydd Jude Morgan,
worked as a plumber in Australia. And?
Well, there's a plumber's van parked outside the O'Loughlin house.
Yeah, they were having some work done.
Well, I just spoke to Joe O'Loughlin
and he seemed nervous, like, really tense,
and it was just him at the door, no sign of his family.
He kept looking at the van
as if he was trying to tell me something.
What do you know about the plumber at the O'Loughlin house?
Nothing. Er... Literally nothing.
Um... He's a bit surly.
His name?
Er... I think Julianne called him...
DJ? DJ.
DJ? Yeah.
Dafydd Jude? 'That's it, sir.'
DJ.
OK, one second.
Erm... Thank you.
We no longer need him for our investigation.
Yeah, just keep a safe distance and observe.
Sir.
HE EXHALES DEEPLY
PHONE RINGING TONE
Yeah, this is DI Ruis, I'm declaring a critical incident
at St Bartholomew Place, NW1 4CT.
'I suspect we have a hostage situation.
'Can we shut off the road and set up a command structure
'and contact the on-call hostage negotiator?'
DISTANT CONVERSATION
Come on.
You didn't chase anyone out of the house, did you DJ?
You did that to get my confidence.
Well, it worked.
I felt so safe with you, so did Charlie.
Please, you have to let her go.
Come on, let's go. Brother, come here.
Come on. Come here! Come here.
It didn't work, they've blocked off the street, man.
They're onto us, bro.
You know I meant it...
when I said we can't stop the timer.
I'll touch it and it blows.
All right, listen, right, um...
We've done... We've done everything we said we were gonna do, yeah?
Eh?
We've paid them all back, apart from that rat there.
Eh? Look at me.
Look at me. Look at me lad, eh?
We can give in, yeah?
Or we can stay.
Please?
Eh?
See that it gets finished together. Yeah?
Sir, what if I'm wrong? No, no.
A bad call's better than no call.
Alpha Team, on me.
DS Devi?
Yes, sir. You've been to the property,
talked to someone there, correct? Sir.
GAS HISSING, TIMER BEEPING
Is this what you both really want?
To stay here until we all blow up? It will have to do, Joe.
At least we're doing it together, eh, brother?
What I don't understand
is why you didn't punish the person you hate the most?
Your mother.
I went to see Bridget...
...at the hospice.
I'm not arsed, Joe. I don't wanna know, man.
Oh, you never could talk about your mother, could you, Bobby?
That iron grip she has on you...
she must have done something terrible.
BOBBY GRUNTS, JULIANNE WHIMPERS
This is about you man, yeah?
This is about what you did, lad, not me mother.
No, this isn't about some stupid mistake I made, Bobby.
Oh, no.
This is about a young boy,
eight years old, having to suppress a justified rage
at what's happening to him,
and then him denying it later in life.
That's what this... "Justified rage", yeah?
Yeah. Psycho-blah-blah-blah.
Yeah, that's all you ever do, is chat bin, Joe.
BOBBY GRUMBLES You're not even close, man.
You got no idea what I want through, man.
Why don't you tell me, then?
You want me to tell, yeah?
Yeah.
BOBBY GRUNTS
There's a lay-by, yeah?
On the coast road through Cosby, about...
eight miles north of Liverpool, it is. Bobby!
Just set back from the road, so you can't really see it. Don't!
See, if you get there about...
about ten, half ten at like... It's not worth it, mate!
You'll see another car parked there.
And what you do is, yeah, you pull in behind that car.
You flash an indicator, left or right...
depending on what you want.
Wait for that car to reply with the same indicator,
then you follow it.
Now, I was six, lad.
I was six when my mum first took me to that lay-by.
I had to sit there, Joe.
I had to sit there and watch it all, man.
All of it.
My ma used to say to me...
..."I love it when you watch, lad." Come on, mate! That's enough!
Do you know what she used to do to them, yeah?
And what they used to do to her?
Nothing was off the menu. She shouldn't have to hear this!
Stop it! Why? Because she's a kid, DJ?
I was the same age as her, man!
I don't want her hearing it!
Ah, listen to yourself! Eh?
Protecting her yet you wouldn't lift a finger
to protect me, would you? Your own blood.
You were there.
You must have been a teenager.
When your mother drove out of the lay-by,
and she followed that car,
where would you go, Bobby? Stop it, Joe!
Don't say it! DJ's right! Not in front of Charlie!
Tell you what happened next, mate, we used to go to a big barn, yeah?
Sometimes there'd be like 30 or 40 nonces...
...just waiting for us, mate.
Get Charlie out of the room now! Nah, she stays, DJ, leave her!
Running away again!
We've got him, we don't need them. Here, come on.
Come on. Mum...
He's always running away!
Go! Through there, off you go.
Rat man, you know! Rat man!
This way.
You said, "Running away again."
Did DJ run away?
To escape the barn?
And then she made you take his place?
Is that what happened?
Bobby... is that what happened?
Thanks for letting them go.
The house, its wired to explode.
A gas explosion. It's on a timer.
How long does it have to run? I don't know,
but I know you can't stop it.
Joe, he's locked inside there with them.
GAS HISSING, TIMER BEEPING
So, after DJ ran away...
...how many years were you forced into that barn
all on your own, Bobby?
That's enough. Your time's nearly up.
Bobby has an alibi for the murders, DJ.
You don't.
I think you did all the killings.
This isn't about revenge, DJ.
This is about forgiveness.
You need Bobby to forgive you.
You should have saved him from that barn.
Just like you saved my family.
You thought that if you carried out his plan...
...that he'd forgive you for it.
JOE SIGHS
Did you ever really think that he was gonna forgive you
for running out on him like that?
Of course I have, eh?
I love you, brother.
I love you.
What are you doing?
Come on! We need to keep him close,
so they don't shoot at us. No.
No, no, we see this through. You promised me that, yeah?
You haven't killed anyone, have you? Please! Please.
You just tell 'em it was all my idea.
No.
You want me to save you?
Yeah?
Like I didn't do back then?
This is how it happens.
POLICE CHATTER ON RADIO
In position.
On my command.
Stop. Stop!
Armed police! Show me your hands!
Move forward slowly and get on your knees.
Get on your knees!
No!
BOBBY SCREAMS It's gonna blow!
Move back, it's gonna blow!
SCREAMING
BOBBY WAILING
TIMER BEEPING, GAS HISSING
BOBBY WHIMPERS
Hey.
How'd you get them to come out?
First rule of psychology, shut up and listen.
Then ask the right question.
It was never about me, detective.
It was never about what I had done. It was always about them.
It's always about childhood.
They went through a living hell as kids.
Understanding.
That's where we need to get to.
Well, we're glad you're all safe and sound, Mr O'Loughlin.
Thank you, detective.
'Eckhart Tolle once said,
' "All problems are illusions of the mind."
'But trauma is no illusion.
'Trauma... remains.'
Come here.
Now! Whew!
BOTH CHUCKLE
'What men do to other men...
'and to women...
'leaves a scar.
'And all you can do is try to live with your scars
'and maybe...
'one day...
'heal.'
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