1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,000 [cicadas chirping] 2 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,480 [uneasy music playing] 3 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,320 [woman] I've only been obsessed with three people my whole life. 4 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,680 When we make mistakes, we learn from them. Just like a kid, you know. 5 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:27,760 I guess I just don't regret anything, 6 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,120 but I just wish that it would have turned out differently. 7 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:33,920 [somber piano music playing] 8 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,280 Sometimes in my head, I... I think about certain things I did. 9 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,360 They say that's considered stalking, but still, I don't think that's stalking. 10 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,440 When I will do those things, 11 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,920 I will get, like... I guess, crazy. 12 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,000 [laughs] 13 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,600 I'm a little scared, to be honest. 14 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,440 [man 1] I'd rather be considered a murderer than a stalker, 15 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:28,600 you know what I mean? 16 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:38,040 [woman] I wanted the intensity of, like, of her feeling watched. 17 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,440 [man 2] Anybody could be a stalker. 18 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,640 [man 3] It's all boogeyman talk. 19 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,000 [man 4] I'm still that crazy. [chuckles] 20 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,640 [soft rainfall] 21 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,280 [door slams] 22 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:13,960 [keys jingling] 23 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:20,720 [somber piano music playing] 24 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,960 My name is Deketrice Jackson. 25 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,440 I'm here for stalking. 26 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,120 It's a four-year sentence, and I've been in here for two years. 27 00:02:49,640 --> 00:02:51,720 My addiction is women. 28 00:02:53,640 --> 00:02:56,760 I don't drink coffee, I don't smoke cigarettes, or things like that, 29 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,680 but for some reason, it's, like, women that, you know... 30 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,400 It drives me, and it's like... I guess I just love love. [laughs] 31 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,480 [children playing] 32 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,640 [Deketrice] I went into one of my foster homes about six years old. 33 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,880 I got taken because my birth mom didn't want me. 34 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,120 I was bounced around to about 12 total homes. 35 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,800 I was abused a lot in some of my foster homes, 36 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,200 so, like, mistreated... 37 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:00,800 and not loved. 38 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,080 At ten years old, I... I started liking women. 39 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,320 And at ten, 11, I started fightin' at school 40 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,760 'cause I was picked on because I liked women. 41 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,480 And I went to different foster homes 42 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,120 because they didn't want me, 'cause they said I was bad, 43 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:25,640 or they didn't want me in a home with the other children because I was gay. 44 00:04:27,840 --> 00:04:29,640 [birdsong] 45 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,560 So I just felt unloved and unwanted. 46 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,520 [Jackson] I was in this foster home in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 47 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,760 And we used to go to church, 48 00:04:55,840 --> 00:05:00,000 and there was this lady who was probably about... maybe 24 at the time, 49 00:05:00,840 --> 00:05:02,680 and she was, like, really pretty, 50 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,320 and I... I guess I just wanted her to, like, mother me. 51 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,880 She'd just, like, buy me gifts for Christmas, birthday, 52 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,360 and, like, she let me go over her house every Sunday after church. 53 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,360 I kept wanting her to, um... to parent me. 54 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,280 Well, throughout every time I see her, I get excited and I, like, 55 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,240 used to try to call her "Mom," 56 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,880 and she would sit down and say, "No, I'm not your mom." 57 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,920 I felt rejected, 58 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,040 not never really having that stable mom... mom figure, you know? 59 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:45,480 [introspective string music playing] 60 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,080 [woman] When I first met Dee, she was a little girl. 61 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,560 She was introduced to the church, and she was very shy. 62 00:06:09,280 --> 00:06:11,880 This is the church that Dee grew up in. 63 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,080 Um, Divine Temple. 64 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:21,000 A small church, but it has a big heart with a lot of love. 65 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,320 My name is Tunya King, 66 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,280 and I knew Dee when she attended our church. 67 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,040 [Tunya] I felt like she was longing for something. 68 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,200 It's like when you go to the pound and you see a puppy 69 00:07:07,280 --> 00:07:10,520 and they are just like, "Pick me up. Hold me. Love me." 70 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,600 Um, I got that sense that she needed to be loved. 71 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,760 So we were at my house. 72 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,960 She was like, um... "You should adopt me." 73 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:27,520 And I'm like, "No!" Like, "Girl, no!" Laughing it off. 74 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,800 Looking back, I never turned around to see her face. 75 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:42,040 Now, I feel like I probably offended her, um, by saying no like that. 76 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,040 I think she took it as a, 77 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,600 "Why am I not good enough for you to be my mom?" 78 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,080 [birdsong] 79 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:04,120 When Dee was younger, our relationship, I think, was very pure and very beautiful. 80 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:10,320 But as she got older, it just started to change. 81 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:18,680 When I was dating my first husband, I would go visit him on the weekends, 82 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,680 and wouldn't... sometimes didn't make it to church. 83 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,720 And so she wouldn't see me. 84 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,960 She didn't want me to go. She wanted to hang out with me. 85 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,920 And I'm like, "No, I already made plans. I'm going." 86 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,480 And she... It was like she was trying to persuade me to spending time with her. 87 00:08:38,560 --> 00:08:41,120 And I'm like, "Dee, we're not havin' this conversation." 88 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,000 "I said no. Like, that's it." 89 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,360 She just kept asking, you know, like, 90 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,240 "If I ask her 50 times, she's gonna change her mind." 91 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:54,960 She was persistent. 92 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,800 Um... I would tell her, "Dee, I'll call you back." 93 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:02,600 And she's, like, still trying to keep me on the phone. 94 00:09:02,680 --> 00:09:05,400 And I'm like, "Dee, I'm hanging up now." 95 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,720 And then when I would hang up, she would call right back. 96 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:17,400 It got to the point where I had to disassociate myself with her, 97 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,360 because it was just like... 98 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,800 I... I saw where we were going, and I didn't appreciate it. 99 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,520 [rainfall] 100 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,240 [Deketrice] When she got married, I was very emotionally distraught. 101 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,640 It's like, I felt like I lost her. 102 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,240 It brings me back to my childhood, Like, "I'll never be enough." 103 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,520 "I'll never be loved. I'll never have that love." 104 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:53,120 It's like, if my own mom didn't love me, and then she didn't love me... 105 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:10,400 [Deketrice] When I met Tiffanie, she used to give me that attention that I craved. 106 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:16,920 I had, uh, a picture that she gave me of her, and I used to... 107 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,480 at the time, I would, like, kiss her picture goodnight. 108 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,800 Maybe... I don't know. Maybe I just felt safer because, I don't know, like... 109 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:29,360 You know, being molested as... as a child, I didn't really like men, 110 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,920 but I didn't see me as being gay, I didn't even know what gay was. 111 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,080 It was just more of, "I like that sex." 112 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,240 Like, you know, "Oh, she's pretty." 113 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,480 I never... I just realized I never said to a guy, like, "Oh, he's pretty." 114 00:10:41,560 --> 00:10:43,600 It was just, you know, the women part. 115 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,360 [Tunya] This is Tiffanie. 116 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:03,440 Beautiful young lady. 117 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,840 This is all during the time that Dee was in our lives. 118 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,920 Tiffanie was able to give Dee the attention 119 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,200 that she wasn't getting from me anymore. 120 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,040 I think we were at Tiffanie's mom's house. 121 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,720 Tiffanie was like, "I think she's in love with both of us, 122 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,840 or she was in love with you and now she's in love with me." 123 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:39,120 And I was so like, "Whoa, hold on." 124 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,520 That was totally not the nature of our relationship. 125 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:50,040 I didn't see signs of that. I thought it was more, 126 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,120 "You wanted me to be your mother." 127 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,960 Tiffanie was younger, and Dee gravitated toward her, 128 00:11:57,560 --> 00:12:01,600 and their relationship got weird as well. 129 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,120 My niece brought it to my attention where she changed... 130 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,040 Dee changed her Facebook name. 131 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:22,560 She named herself "Tiffanie Jackson" and sent friend requests to both of us. 132 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,360 And when I saw it there was no picture, and I'm like, "Pfft! Delete." 133 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,360 And my niece was like, "That's Dee." 134 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,280 And I'm like, "Oh my goodness." I'm like, "Wait a minute." 135 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,000 "Where's the Tiffanie comin' from?" 136 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,960 And she was like, "Exactly. Like, this is getting weird to me." 137 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,120 And that's when she was like, "I think she was trying to mimic my life." 138 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,080 And I'm like, "Oh my God." 139 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:29,080 [Deketrice] When I was 18, I had my first relationship. 140 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,560 And then the second was Rachel. 141 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,960 I started getting clingy and liking her more and more, 142 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:35,960 and it was mutual in the beginning, 143 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,640 but the more I was, like, "Don't go anywhere," or "Come back," 144 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,200 and "Are you gonna leave me?" 145 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,200 the more she got very uncomfortable with me. 146 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:52,760 I think because I never really had a mom, so, like, bouncing around, 147 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,440 it's just like, "Love me, love me." 148 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,200 And if it's like... I don't know, like, they reject or don't want me, 149 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,440 I get crazy, you know, like depressed or... 150 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,800 you know, a lot of different feelings, a lot of emotions I can't deal with. 151 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,320 Maybe it was just how I picked 'em, but... 152 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,520 each relationship just made me realize that, like, I wasn't enough. 153 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,480 [woman] When I first met Dee, she introduced herself as Tiffanie. 154 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,160 And I didn't find out until probably about six, seven months after that 155 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,000 exactly what her real name was. 156 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,960 I didn't know it was Deketrice until later on. 157 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:50,560 My name's Christine. 158 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,640 And Deketrice was in a relationship with my daughter, Rachel. 159 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:05,960 Dee was nice. 160 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,840 I mean, she seemed very nice at first, and she was polite, 161 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,040 and, like, well-mannered. 162 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,560 Next thing I know, she's, like, startin' to... 163 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,360 staying at the house, and... 164 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,880 next thing I know, she's, like, movin' in. 165 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,400 [Christine] I don't know, I was just gettin' vibes, I guess, 166 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:44,280 that she wasn't really, uh, the right person for Rachel. 167 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,320 Tiffanie would just get these things in her head, 168 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,360 just thinkin' that Rachel would be doing somethin', and she's not. 169 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,640 She's just at home sittin' there. 170 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,640 Tiffanie wanted Rachel to just look a certain way. 171 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:06,600 And, um, if Rachel didn't want to do... you know, go out or somethin' like that, 172 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,280 then Tiffanie would get mad or... 173 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,920 Then they would fight and argue. 174 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,760 And she don't get her way, 175 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,400 then she can flip, turn... 176 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:21,960 kind of be a little mean. 177 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,520 [rainfall] 178 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,320 [Deketrice] With Rachel, I was, you know, obsessed. 179 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,880 I used to, like, follow her, like, when she would say she'd be at work, 180 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,240 and I would stalk her by going to see if she's at work. 181 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,200 And then there are days where I'd go there and she's not at work, 182 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,240 and that's when, like, I started having those... 183 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:51,840 that stalking tendencies. 184 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,240 I guess it has to do with trust. 185 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:55,760 I didn't trust her. 186 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,520 Like, going through her cellphone and things like that. 187 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,680 I guess that's when I started, like, stalking, in a way. 188 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,080 She kept trying to leave me. 189 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,680 I'd do anything and everything to try to get her to stay. 190 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,760 But when I get rejected... 191 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:13,480 It's like, I want them... 192 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,800 I guess I'm vindictive sometimes, because, like, 193 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,600 when they're hurting me, it's like I want them to hurt. 194 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,240 You know, slappin' her around and things when she would do things 195 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:24,880 that I wasn't okay with. 196 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,280 I used to call her a whore, things like that, and, like... 197 00:17:32,360 --> 00:17:34,840 So I guess I was emotionally abusive as well. 198 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,160 [Christine] I came home that one evening. 199 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,440 When I pulled up to the house, the front door was open, 200 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,600 and they were arguing, and I'm not really for sure about what. 201 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,200 That's when I seen her really flip out. 202 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,520 Oh, she threatened to do a lot of things. 203 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,000 It scared me, you know. I don't... 204 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,680 I... I don't wanna die. I didn't want to die then. 205 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,760 The next day after that happened, that's where we got the restraining... 206 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,520 Both of, uh... I did, Rachel and myself each got a restraining order. 207 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,920 [Deketrice] During the breakup, I kept contacting her, I kept calling her. 208 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,720 Didn't understand why she didn't want me. The truth is, I didn't care. 209 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,400 I was supposed to stay away from her, and I didn't. 210 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,200 I kept, like, popping up at her new house which was with her mom. 211 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,200 I just would, like, follow her and things like that. 212 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,840 Pop up to where she was going, just let her know, like, 213 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,440 "Hey, I'm sorry. Be with me," and things like that. 214 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,960 The police said, "Don't go to the house." Well, I went to the house anyhow. 215 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,000 [Christine] She kept breakin' the restrainin' order, 216 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:19,080 you know, comin' around. 217 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,360 It's like she really didn't care that I had one. 218 00:19:22,120 --> 00:19:25,680 Because she wasn't supposed to be within 1,000 feet of either one of us, 219 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,440 and she could, you know, come over and start yellin' outside. 220 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,280 "Oh, I love you," and, "How can you do this to me?" and... 221 00:19:33,360 --> 00:19:36,520 I wouldn't open up the door or even talk to her. 222 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,480 - She just kept bangin' and bangin'. - [wind chimes tinkling] 223 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,480 She tried breakin' in through the windows, tore out all the screens. 224 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,720 I was scared to death myself, you know, that... 225 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,840 she was gonna come and do somethin', you know... 226 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,200 to Rachel or whatever, and... 227 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,680 But she would be gone by the time the officers got there, of course. 228 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,280 [woman] And how long did this go on for? 229 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,360 At least, uh... a year. 230 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,160 I guess I didn't think about the consequences, 231 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,400 because all what mattered was that I wanted her. 232 00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:54,000 I think I have, like, seven total assaults on my record. 233 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,640 And I knew I shouldn't do that, 234 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,440 but I did it because I wanted her to feel like how I felt, hurt. 235 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,400 It breaks me down sometimes, like, well, 236 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:12,800 just knowing, like, the feeling of not, like, finding that love. 237 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,280 It's just, like, every woman wants that, you know, picket fence, 238 00:21:16,360 --> 00:21:18,840 that ma... that, um... husband... 239 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,040 the kids, the great job. 240 00:21:23,360 --> 00:21:25,640 Um, I just feel like, I guess, in that... 241 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,960 In my mindset, I wanted that, just with a woman, 242 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,080 and not... not getting it is... 243 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,640 I guess it just breaks me down emotionally, 244 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,440 where I get emotionally distraught. 245 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,440 I just felt like, "Oh my God. I'm never gonna find love." 246 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:43,160 And some of my friends tell me, you know, like, 247 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,840 "You gotta find love through God, through Jesus." 248 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:11,560 [man] Several years ago, 249 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,000 Dee was walking down this alley, very depressed. 250 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,280 We had a sign leaning up against our shed out here that said, 251 00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:21,440 "Bible study tonight, seven o'clock." 252 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,160 She had just been very angrily praying to God. 253 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,000 And she said, "I want a sign." [chuckles] 254 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,320 So she looked over and saw our sign, and she took it as a sign. 255 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,840 She came right up to the porch, knocked on the door. 256 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:38,640 I answered, and she said, "Are you havin' Bible study tonight at seven?" 257 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,240 And I said, "Well, we are now." 258 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:46,240 I'm Steve Long. 259 00:22:47,120 --> 00:22:50,440 I was Dee's pastor for several years. 260 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,920 I think everybody is desperate for love. 261 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:05,520 I think many of us come from solid families or solid social surroundings, 262 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,440 and we don't even realize we need love because we're getting it all the time. 263 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,320 But this is a gal that, oh man. 264 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,320 That was a... that was a terrible... a terrible upbringing, 265 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,360 and it... and it seemed to go from one thing to the next. 266 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,440 [tinkling] 267 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,720 One night, she called my wife and I over because she was... 268 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,040 she was thinkin' about committing suicide. 269 00:23:34,120 --> 00:23:37,720 So we went over there and she went... 270 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,040 just this litany of things she had gone through. 271 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:46,760 And, I mean, we were just in tears, and... and just tryin' to love her. 272 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,400 We just try to listen and help as much as we can, and... 273 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,000 And, uh... certainly, as a minister, 274 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,280 I'm pointing them to Jesus Christ and the hope in Jesus Christ. 275 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,280 We never mentioned homosexuality to Dee. 276 00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:09,920 She would always mention it to us. 277 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,520 Her sexuality, which she... 278 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,800 um... doesn't think's right. 279 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,400 She doesn't think it's right. 280 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,560 And so, we believe that... 281 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,520 that Dee's sexuality was not in line with the Scripture, 282 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:32,880 but we believed our love for her was totally in line with the Scripture. 283 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,960 [Deketrice] The whole two years, I was doing really well, 284 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,520 and I was working at a day care. 285 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,240 I was just growin', going to church faithfully, 286 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,600 when I... I started gettin' those feelings again for different women. 287 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,800 [Deketrice] I met her at this community center. 288 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,720 And I didn't know that I was gonna become obsessed with her. 289 00:25:54,840 --> 00:26:00,000 I just did, like, crazy things... like, to prove that I really loved her 290 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,560 and wanted her to give me a chance. 291 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,360 I would, like, buy her flowers. 292 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,320 And when I would pop to her house, she wouldn't answer her door. 293 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,480 I would leave the gifts there and come back ten minutes later. 294 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,440 I'd just drive around her neighborhood. 295 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,640 I would come back to see if she took the gifts, 296 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,240 and the gifts would be gone. 297 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,000 So in my head I'm like, "Oh my God," like, you know, "She wanted them." 298 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:33,360 And I thought that if I did all that, then she'll, like, give me a chance. 299 00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:36,280 And there's things like that. 300 00:26:36,360 --> 00:26:40,680 And then there's more, but some of it is, like, very, um... embarrassing, 301 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,040 so I don't wanna say. 302 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:12,240 [man] This case came to light after one year of constant harassment 303 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,680 and physical stalking of this victim. 304 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:23,600 Ms. Jackson and the victim had only spoken a few times, 305 00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:27,520 and it was more of an infatuation of the victim 306 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:32,520 where there was no real foundation of a relationship between the two. 307 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,360 I'm Corporal David Hatch of the Springfield Police Department. 308 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,640 I was assigned the stalking case involving Ms. Jackson. 309 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,880 [Hatch] The victim reported she had received a note at her residence, 310 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,080 and that escalated with voicemail messages, 311 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,040 Christmas gifts, Easter gifts. 312 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:18,680 She had dropped off flowers with numerous notes. 313 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,720 Even when the victim had moved, 314 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,440 Ms. Jackson was able to locate her address, 315 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:29,960 and the gifts continued. 316 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,040 It didn't matter what anyone said to Ms. Jackson, 317 00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:37,320 she was gonna continue the path she was on 318 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,840 and continue to communicate with the victim. 319 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,120 At one point, she had walked into a bar 320 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,520 where the victim was out with, uh... someone she didn't even really know, 321 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,520 and was talking to her and approached her. 322 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,800 She was actually following her wherever she was going. 323 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:06,800 [Deketrice] I followed her. 324 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:08,920 I wanted to, like... 325 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,480 It's embarrassing. 326 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,920 I guess I just wanted to show up where she was at and be like, "Oh hey!" 327 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,240 Like I just got there. 328 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,680 And she was like, "Get away from me." 329 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,320 And when she didn't want to be with me, I lost it. 330 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:39,120 The victim, it got into that level where she no longer believed she was safe 331 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,320 leaving her home without someone with her, uh... to protect her. 332 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:01,280 - [cicadas chirping] - [uneasy music playing] 333 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,081 [Deketrice] It was, like, late. Like maybe seven at night. 334 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,160 And it was dark. And I was taking her gifts. 335 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,160 First, I rang the doorbell, she didn't answer. 336 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,480 So then I got in my car and I was, like, 337 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,680 trying to text her, and she wouldn't answer the phone. 338 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:27,320 And when I see a guy go in her house, for some reason, I took out my binoculars. 339 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,280 Tried to look through her house. It was dark. 340 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,000 I wasn't trying to be harmful or anything, 341 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,840 I guess I was just more thinking, like, "Who is this guy?" 342 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,320 [siren wailing] 343 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:57,760 The victim had contacted 911 stating the suspect, Ms. Jackson, 344 00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,640 uh, was outside of her residence, 345 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,960 and she was afraid that Ms. Jackson was gonna break into her residence. 346 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,200 [Hatch] Ms. Jackson would not have stopped 347 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,760 harassing or stalking the victim in this case 348 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:29,520 if law enforcement had not interjected into... into this and investigated it. 349 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,160 When I looked at the history of Ms. Jackson, 350 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:41,080 uh, and reports filed here at Springfield Police Department, 351 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,240 I would say, if there was no law enforcement, 352 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,960 there's a high probability of, uh... of this changing from love notes, 353 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,680 to threats, to possible bodily harm. 354 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,240 [cicadas chirping] 355 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,920 [rainfall] 356 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,600 [plaintive piano music playing] 357 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,640 [Deketrice] When I got to prison, I was in denial. 358 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:35,720 The longer I stay here, the more I realize that I was stalking her. 359 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,080 When I go home, I am scared that it may happen again. 360 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,480 I just want to... 361 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,080 not do this again. 362 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,080 Like, I don't wanna do this again. Like, it's not fun for me, 363 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,640 you know, like, cryin' and, like, wonderin' why someone don't want me. 364 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:07,840 Like, that's not fun. 365 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,200 But I feel like, with these whole two years, 366 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,640 I wasn't taking my prison time serious. 367 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,560 I would flirt and, you know, be all in women faces, 368 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,280 but I should have took this time to actually, like... 369 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,360 like, heal in my heart and things, you know? 370 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,360 Well, right now I'm on psych meds for my obsession thoughts. 371 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,480 And sometimes it doesn't work, because I get... 372 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,480 I'll start likin' women here, but... 373 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:38,960 I don't know, I guess, like... 374 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,920 So it won't happen again, I guess I will surround myself with, like, godly people. 375 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:53,440 I think that I need to surrender to God and repent and just... 376 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,680 I guess, just pick up my cross and follow him. 377 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,080 I don't need love. I can love myself. 378 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,120 I did go for two whole years, and I wasn't seeking a relationship. 379 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,400 And I realized that I was... now I look back, I did really well. 380 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,080 But I can't really say if it would happen again or not, you know? 381 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,760 Because no one knows the future, 382 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,920 and no one knows at that moment what would actually happen. 383 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,880 [man] There are certain things that a parolee has to do 384 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,600 to maintain their parole status. 385 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,280 One is to not re-offend. 386 00:34:39,240 --> 00:34:41,680 Stalking re-offense is as high as 50%, 387 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,560 sometimes with a repeat offense in as little as only one day. 388 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:52,560 My name's Will Worsham. 389 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,920 I was a former assistant prosecuting attorney in Greene County, Missouri. 390 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,160 I now serve as a municipal judge and work in private practice. 391 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:20,600 This docket sheet goes all the way back to 2012 and runs through 2018, 392 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,960 and it shows a significant history of being on probation, 393 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,680 violating probation. 394 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,200 And the pattern just repeats over and over for a period of six years. 395 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,360 Regardless of the length of sentence, the pattern of behavior just continues. 396 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,000 So on July 18th, she's writing from jail to the judge. 397 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,760 And she said, "I'm rebellious. My mind is cluttered." 398 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,760 "I'm an abused child, lost trust for authority, 399 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:59,080 admit I have attachment issues, clingy, obsession, and so on." 400 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,440 "Going to get therapy, go to church, get involved with community, 401 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,040 but scared I'll never change." 402 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,360 "I want and need help." 403 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,960 I think the most honest part here is when she says, 404 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,400 "I'm scared I'll never change. I want and need help." 405 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,280 That's a great thing to hear in a letter. 406 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,000 But what's obvious, I think, from all of this 407 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,080 is that she needs mental health support. 408 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:21,920 She needs to be in a program, 409 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,160 so we can adjust her ways of thinking and perceiving people. 410 00:36:25,240 --> 00:36:28,280 The difficulty is finding the resources to make that happen for her. 411 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,160 Remember, you're dealing with somebody 412 00:36:33,240 --> 00:36:36,640 that's been in a system for her entire life. 413 00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:38,520 So she grew up in the foster system. 414 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,720 So the system has always been her de facto parent 415 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,040 throughout all of this. 416 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,840 She's never had the opportunity to form a real relationship with a parent. 417 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,000 She doesn't probably know how to do that. 418 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,520 And so in a lot of ways, yeah, the system has failed, 419 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,120 and it continues, to some extent, to fail her now. 420 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,360 I have a lot of concern about Deketrice's future. 421 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:06,200 I'm not sure that there's going to be services available for her that she needs. 422 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,200 I mean, the church groups are gonna offer forgiveness. 423 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,320 But she's gonna need somebody, professional or otherwise, 424 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,120 to come alongside her 425 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,480 and change her... her way of thinking. 426 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,880 [cicadas chirping] 427 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,280 [wind whistling] 428 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:50,800 - Hi! - [woman] Hey. 429 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:51,880 [laughs] 430 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,320 - How are you feeling? - Um... 431 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,400 Excited, anxious. 432 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,840 I feel free from the inside, outside. 433 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,080 - Grateful. - Watch your head. 434 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:06,520 Happy. 435 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,000 - [officer] Put your seat belt on. - [engine starts] 436 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,320 [Steve] All right, we're gonna start, eh, and you can just... 437 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,296 - So we're looking at verse three and four. - [Deketrice] Can we pray first? 438 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:58,800 Yeah. We sure can. 439 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,600 Father, we pray that you will, even in this little short devotion, 440 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,440 that we might benefit from it, 441 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,360 and that you would be glorified in Jesus' name, amen. 442 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,720 She has tried to change before. 443 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:16,600 But I'm far more confident now, because she seems to be... uh... humble. 444 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,760 She seems to be very humble right now. 445 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:24,400 Well, honestly, I'm looking to, like, just keep chasing after God, you know? 446 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,240 I feel like the more I read my Bible, 447 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,000 the more I have that relationship with Him, 448 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:32,000 I think that everything will be okay and that He's in control. He has this. 449 00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:36,480 [Steve] Dee has a new affection, and it's changed her life. 450 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,840 She's in love with Jesus Christ. She wants to please Him. 451 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,200 And so everything, all her behaviors, 452 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,800 are growing out of that new affection she has. 453 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,920 I realized that when I do do things my way, everything falls apart. 454 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,640 And when I do things His way, everything lined up. 455 00:39:55,720 --> 00:40:01,000 So I just gotta remember not to, um... get, like, into any law trouble or anything 456 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,120 just by just obeying His commands. 457 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,800 Not be a slave of sin, 458 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:09,800 but to obey Him and give up everything, like, for Him. 459 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,520 I'm gonna stay out of prison. 460 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,560 I'm gonna not ever be obsessed with anyone again. 461 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,880 And I just wanna take a day at a time. 462 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:47,680 So I won't go on a bad path, I've been avoiding... old friends. 463 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,000 I've been avoiding... alcohol. 464 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,640 And I've been avoiding women. 465 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,920 It's just been better to just... 466 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,680 you know, just work on myself, and get on my feet. 467 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,040 I have a job. 468 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,680 I'm a server at Mexican Villa. 469 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,400 So everything is going to plan. 470 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,680 I always felt like I was missin' somethin' in life 471 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,080 because I didn't grow up with attention. 472 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,080 I only got attention when I was bad. 473 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:25,920 And I think that I found what I was missing. 474 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,760 It was always in my heart. I found Jesus. 475 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:33,960 You know, it's a sin to be gay. 476 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,520 [woman] Can you see that your obsessions 477 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,920 and your sexuality are two different things? 478 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,720 And that there's actually nothing wrong with being gay? 479 00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:49,280 I don't think it's wrong, but God does. 480 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,840 And it doesn't matter what I think. It matters what God thinks. 481 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,600 And I would love to get married with a woman, but... 482 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,200 you know, God doesn't want that, and I have to obey what He wants. 483 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,120 [introspective music playing]