1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:02,960 Previously on Parental Guidance... 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:04,920 (SCREAMS) 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:07,400 ..our first focused parents 4 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:13,360 leapt into action to find Australia's best parenting style. 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:14,760 Hi, my girl. 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:17,200 But hot button issues... 7 00:00:17,240 --> 00:00:20,400 If you're getting attacked and I can smack someone in the face, 8 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,360 I'll be like, mate high five. 9 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:23,760 ..saw temperatures rise. 10 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,280 A lot of young boys die from being king hit in the face. 11 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,560 With all this sort of bullying happening, if you run away, 12 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,280 good chance you're going to get king hit. 13 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,840 Then our panel picked their favourite. 14 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:39,760 Kat. And our first to go through to the final. 15 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,440 I'm very rarely speechless. 16 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,840 Tonight, four new parenting styles... 17 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:48,760 Our parenting style is influencer. 18 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:50,640 Team parents. Spiritually. 19 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:51,840 Stage parents. 20 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:53,560 ..are on a collision course, 21 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:54,760 Stop! (CLANK) 22 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,880 ..as they explore parenting... 23 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:00,280 Tell me, where does the babies come from? 24 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:01,640 They come from the belly. 25 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,480 Are you blocking your ears right now? 26 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:04,880 ..in the digital age. 27 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,560 Our rules around technology are basically non-existent. 28 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,240 I'm curious what age you gave your kids an account. 29 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:12,440 Maybe nine. 30 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,640 She's up to 500,000 followers now. 31 00:01:28,320 --> 00:01:30,280 Hey Justin, what's the one thing you wish 32 00:01:30,320 --> 00:01:32,000 you'd known before becoming a parent? 33 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:33,520 Oh, so many. 34 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,360 That going to the bathroom in private 35 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,760 was going to be a thing of the past, definitely. 36 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,160 What about you? 37 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,240 That a full night's sleep will become 38 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:43,920 the equivalent of winning the lottery. 39 00:01:44,960 --> 00:01:47,440 No, actually there is a lot to love about parenting. 40 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:48,520 Yeah, there is. 41 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,440 School drop-off's my favourite part. 42 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,080 You're terrible. 43 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,400 Parents! Kajal, Deepak, nice to see you. 44 00:01:58,240 --> 00:01:59,840 Sarah and Shane. 45 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:01,120 Hi. 46 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:06,040 We've got Jonathan and Kat with us as well, Mark and Leanne. 47 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,560 Hey. Focus parents, welcome. 48 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,720 Panel parents, welcome back. 49 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,000 It's so good to have you here. 50 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,400 Welcome to The Avengers of parenting. 51 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:27,320 Focus parents, you voted as part of the panel last time, 52 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,400 now you're in the hot seat. 53 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:30,840 I'm excited. 54 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,280 I just want to see the challenges. 55 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,320 You want to find out whether your kids did better 56 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,120 than everyone else's. A hundred percent! 57 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,720 Panel parents, some of you were in the spotlight 58 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,880 last time, now we need you to be taking notes. 59 00:02:48,640 --> 00:02:51,800 Once we've seen our focus parents go through their challenges, 60 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,760 you'll be voting for one set of parents 61 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,280 from the spotlight to be joining Kat, 62 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,360 our honest parent, to go through to the final challenge. 63 00:03:00,920 --> 00:03:03,960 OK, let's get to know our focus parents. 64 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,960 Sarah, Shane, what's your parenting style? 65 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,280 We are stage parents. 66 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,000 We encourage our children's individuality, 67 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,360 creativity and independence. 68 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,960 Show me your best dramatic face. 69 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:20,400 I'm a drama teacher. 70 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,840 And I run a theatre company. 71 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,160 Spread out into a semi-circle. 72 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:26,800 We're going to make a dance. 73 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,800 Stage parenting is mostly fun. 74 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,960 When it comes to performing, I think a lot of parents 75 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,880 think their kid is better than what they are. 76 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,160 Ok, my turn. 77 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:40,440 I'm probably the other way around. 78 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,480 I'm more critical of my children and of course, 79 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,480 they've had a lot more training than the average child 80 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,040 because I pick on everything they do. 81 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:49,080 Nice. 82 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,520 Talent alone is useless if you don't practise it. 83 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,720 You know, a bike gets rusty if you don't ride it, it's that simple. 84 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,280 Let's go to Deepak and Kajal, tell us about your parenting style. 85 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,400 We are spiritual parents. 86 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:07,160 We believe that our children are sparks of the divine 87 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:08,720 and we look towards 88 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,200 Lord Krishna, or God, to guide us with our 89 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:12,480 parenting and everything else we do. 90 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:14,800 ALL: Cheese! 91 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,080 Spiritual parenting means parenting 92 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,280 to the needs of the child on the physical level, 93 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:27,480 on the intellectual level and also on the spiritual level. 94 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:28,960 This is the heart of our house. 95 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,160 This is the spiritual room and you can see that's Krishna over there, 96 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:33,680 our personal God. 97 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,800 In regards to parenting style, Lord Krishna says treat me 98 00:04:37,840 --> 00:04:40,880 as you treat your child or treat your child as you would treat me. 99 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,040 (CHANTING) 100 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:48,360 It's not just us raising kids, the kids are raising us spiritually. 101 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,960 OK, let's go to Jonathan and Kat. 102 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,560 We are influencer parents. 103 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,720 We lead by example and we use technology 104 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,200 to really connect rather than separate. 105 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:03,920 Three, two, one. 106 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,480 So I am a social media influencer. 107 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,640 Hey guys, let's make a summer salad. 108 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,080 We take an influencer approach to parenting. 109 00:05:16,840 --> 00:05:18,160 Nice. 110 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,160 Both our children have social media accounts. 111 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:22,880 You ready? I'm ready. 112 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,080 If you've been on TikTok, if you've been on Instagram and you've seen 113 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,000 some really successful people on how they use the platform, 114 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,840 the future is only going to move more in that direction. 115 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,760 Oh yeah, that was so good. 116 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,320 Screenshot it? Yeah. 117 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,920 I have heard people tell me to get my kids off TikTok, 118 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,560 to get them off Instagram, but I think education is key. 119 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,120 Teaching my kids what to look out for 120 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,240 and keeping them safe is important. 121 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,920 OK, let's go to Mark and Leanne. 122 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,920 Mark and I are team parents. 123 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,200 We love working together and supporting each other, 124 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,840 raising our little tribe, and we've always got each other's backs. 125 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:03,240 Three, two, one! (ALL CHEER) 126 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,000 We have six children and we're trying to raise them 127 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,520 like our little own footy team. 128 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,200 Oh. Was that a knock on? No. Get him! 129 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,280 I'm a coach in rugby league so our family is a sporting team family 130 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,400 and that's how we parent. 131 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,520 Play on. Touch back there, back there. 132 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,680 We raise our children like we do on the sporting field, rugby league. 133 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,200 We bring them all together, we're the leaders and they follow. 134 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,920 Hang on, we need to go to the video ref. 135 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,640 We believe respect, repetition, discipline, 136 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,360 they are all the fundamentals that make our team what we are. 137 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,640 Yep. Yes! 138 00:06:46,840 --> 00:06:50,440 Great, focus parents, you're in the hot seat. 139 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,400 We have four contrasting parenting styles we're going to learn 140 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,800 about tonight, so let's get into the first challenge. 141 00:07:03,280 --> 00:07:05,360 It's not fair. 142 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,720 How do you avoid hearing it when only one child can have a turn? 143 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,680 We sent your family to a wildlife park and then gave 144 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,520 only one child the opportunity to feed a cute animal. 145 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,360 In this challenge, we're looking at how our families deal with 146 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,520 disappointment when only one person can have a turn. 147 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,000 Yes, it's unfair. 148 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,080 What are we going to do about it? 149 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:38,200 Does the family support one another or enter tantrum territory? 150 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:46,880 Oh, I got a text. 151 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:51,120 It's feeding time at the zoo. Only one person can do the feeding. 152 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:52,160 Who will it be? 153 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:53,640 Oh. 154 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,760 This challenge will examine how our parents 155 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,920 manage emotions in an unfair situation. 156 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,440 Who's held a koala before? 157 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,200 Me. Me. I don't know if I have. 158 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,000 It must be time for Zion to do it then. 159 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:08,040 No, no, me! 160 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:09,280 Well, you've already done it. 161 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,760 But I haven't fed one. 162 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,160 River's a bit disappointed 163 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,240 because he's very excited about these things. 164 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,360 I wish I could go in there. 165 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,440 Give me that koala. 166 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:24,360 Can I get off you? 167 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,640 I don't mind. Yes. 168 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,760 But stay close because... (RIVER FUSSING) 169 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,640 River... 170 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:31,720 Calm down. 171 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,680 As stage parents, we know that some of the drama 172 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,320 that the kids create is just that, drama. 173 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,200 100% it comes from wanting to be the centre of attention. 174 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:46,240 We're all attention seekers, and so we tend to negotiate 175 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,720 things like that with a bit of diversion or humour. 176 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,520 They want us to eat, they don't put the sticks close enough. 177 00:08:56,680 --> 00:08:59,360 Go down to that stick and you'll be able to reach. 178 00:09:00,560 --> 00:09:03,360 I've never seen koala so animated. 179 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:07,680 f we can't diffuse it by comedy, then the law will be laid down. 180 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,200 Good job. 181 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,720 You have to be able to deal with someone else 182 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,120 getting some attention, not you. 183 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,120 That's not the problem. 184 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:23,680 What is then? 185 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,640 I just like the koalas. 186 00:09:25,680 --> 00:09:26,800 We all do. 187 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,960 As soon as I get stern, that's it. 188 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,200 It's usually pretty instantaneous. 189 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,160 It works on me too. 190 00:09:36,560 --> 00:09:38,600 There's some very hungry quokkas waiting to be fed. 191 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,800 So guys, who do you think, we have to choose one person. 192 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:44,160 Do you want to feed? 193 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:45,800 Who should feed? 194 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,640 I think Krishna. 195 00:09:48,680 --> 00:09:50,680 You're OK for it? Yeah, OK. 196 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,480 Are you OK for Krishna to do it? Yeah. 197 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,840 Alright, so it's you. Let's do it. 198 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:56,080 Yeah. Yeah. 199 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,960 As spiritual parents, selflessness is a very important, 200 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:03,800 integral part of our quality that we try to promote within us. 201 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,720 So who wants to come in and help me feed today? 202 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,280 I'll go. Alright, do you want to bring a parent with you? 203 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:11,680 OK, Mum. 204 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,360 Alright, come on in then. 205 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,240 This nature of selflessness teaches us 206 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,120 that we are always there to serve 207 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:23,600 and making others happy is actually very important for our own goodness. 208 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,240 What does it feel like? Soft. 209 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,200 I wanna go inside. 210 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,400 I think Mridula had a longing to pat 211 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,600 but it did not translate into disappointment. 212 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:35,800 While she didn't get a chance, 213 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,960 she also enjoyed watching and being happy for the brother. 214 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,000 Well, let's talk about Deepak and Kaajel 215 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,120 and how you handled this experience. 216 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:52,840 Looking at your spirituality and you've had a platform 217 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:57,360 to instill your child's reaction in that situation. 218 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,600 She felt disappointed but within that moment 219 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,120 it transitioned into happiness for her brother. 220 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,240 The only thing I was saying was let kindness guide you 221 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,400 and if they do something which you are not happy with, 222 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:09,640 we just ask the same question. 223 00:11:09,680 --> 00:11:11,040 Was that kind? 224 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:12,920 Do you think we can improve on that? 225 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,880 Let's go to Sarah and Shane. 226 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:17,440 One thing I really liked is like you had 227 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,840 an effort to make the sideline fun. 228 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,200 Obviously, River's quite young as well and you're making 229 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,040 the sideline fun for him even though he wasn't in it. 230 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,560 I find if he's laughing, then life is much better for me. 231 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,000 Shane, you used distraction but then it did reach 232 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,040 a point where Sarah, you laid down the law. 233 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,760 I would never lay down the law straight away 234 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:43,160 but if it continues on, then there has to be a point where it stops. 235 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:44,800 You can have a firm mum tone, right? 236 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:49,640 Like, we've all got a firm mum tone but it felt just a bit too nasty. 237 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,160 It wasn't that at all. 238 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,880 As soon as they hit like six or over, 239 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:59,600 I think it's time that they should be able to control themselves. 240 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,680 I definitely had an issue with the language 241 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,360 that was being used by the stage parents. 242 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,280 I think shaming their children about their 243 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,200 emotions was really upsetting for me. 244 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,720 Coming up, a parenting style showdown... 245 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:17,960 You need to stop. 246 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,600 We would have approached that really, really differently. 247 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,000 ..brings our parents to boiling point. 248 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,560 Now hold on. Just because you didn't get what you want 249 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:26,800 does not give you the right 250 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,560 to sit there and make everyone else feel bad. 251 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,440 It's not OK. 252 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:36,200 Then later, explicit content shocks the room. 253 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,280 He's a boy. When I hear the way this conversation is going, 254 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,000 I become a little concerned. 255 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:42,840 It's like total double standards. 256 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:47,760 And our panel decides which style is their favorite of the night. 257 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,800 The parents with the best parental guidance tonight are... 258 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,120 We've just seen two of our families manage 259 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,000 emotions in an unfair situation. 260 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,360 Let's take a look at two more parenting styles. 261 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,440 Do you want to hold a koala? 262 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,320 Yeah. I think we let Tisha have a go this time. 263 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,800 Well, are you going to get sad if your sister holds a koala? 264 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,920 No. You're going to let her hold one? 265 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:26,960 Yeah. 266 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,560 Alright. 267 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,760 With influencer parenting, our approach 268 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:32,640 to disappointment is just being open 269 00:13:32,680 --> 00:13:35,040 and honest and letting the kids know that 270 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:36,680 life isn't always going to be fair. 271 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:44,000 Because of my social media profile growing so quickly, 272 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,520 there's so many people that recognise our family 273 00:13:46,560 --> 00:13:50,760 out and about, so being mindful of how we treat other people, 274 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:55,240 how we act in public and setting an example to our kids, 275 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,240 it's very, very important. 276 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,720 Hey, guys. So who's the one person that's holding today? 277 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,360 Tisha. Oh, my goodness. 278 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:06,920 Look at how sharp those claws are. 279 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:08,600 Aww, she's cute. 280 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:09,800 Wow. 281 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,120 Would you want to have held it? 282 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:12,760 Yeah. 283 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:18,440 Because it was so cute and fluffy and Deja really wanted to touch it, 284 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,480 the disappointment did set in. 285 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,640 It is so soft. I wish you could feel it. 286 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,440 I'm so jealous. 287 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:27,840 I want one for my own now. 288 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:29,680 You want a koala as a pet? 289 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,480 Yeah. Not possible. 290 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,520 Are we all excited? Yes. 291 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,640 What do we want to see at the zoo? 292 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,280 Bobby, what are you looking forward to seeing at the zoo? 293 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,080 With the team parenting style and managing unfairness, 294 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,080 I think we talk through it. 295 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,360 Look, at the end of the day every now and then 296 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,760 there's going to be some unfairness that does unfold. 297 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,640 Brooklyn, you're feeling the penguins. 298 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,640 Yay! We have six kids. 299 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,120 We've raised them to be competitive. 300 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,040 Nobody gets along with each other 100% of the time. 301 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,520 They all love each other as much as they hate each other. 302 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,800 Who's going to be feeding the penguins today? 303 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,520 Alright, so we'll need Brooklyn in with one parent. 304 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:12,880 Do you want me to hold Bailey? 305 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,160 Mum's been selected. OK, I'll do this one. 306 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,880 Yeah, come to Dad, come to Dad, please. 307 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,080 Because she's going to scream or they might... 308 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:21,160 Mum! 309 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,640 Matt, can you help, please? She doesn't want me to carry her. 310 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,640 She's going to scream. OK, I will carry both. 311 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:27,960 So come this way, guys. 312 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,120 Oh, look at them. 313 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,320 They look so cute. 314 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,200 (CHILD SCREAMS) 315 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:37,720 Don't scream, don't scream. 316 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,880 Bobbi and Bailey were so disappointed 317 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,240 that they couldn't feed the penguins. 318 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,520 They were very upset. They were very upset. 319 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,160 Look, here we go. I want to feed the penguins. 320 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:47,720 You're too young to feed the penguins 321 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,400 because they'll bite your fingers off. 322 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,800 You have to stop crying. 323 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,200 With the team parenting style and managing tantrums, 324 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,400 we've got to negotiate that on a daily basis. 325 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,200 You have to stop crying. 326 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,000 OK, I'm gonna take you back to the car then. 327 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:10,200 No! 328 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:11,880 Then you need to stop. 329 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,840 Do you not understand that? 330 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,120 That's enough now. 331 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,080 You need to relax. You need to calm down, OK? 332 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,560 Alright, thank you. 333 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,800 OK, now that you're calm, now we can talk, yes? 334 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,400 You are too young to feed the penguins. 335 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,920 You need to be patient and you need to behave. 336 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,640 Good listening, now let's go back and watch the penguins. 337 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,560 Let's go back and watch the penguins. 338 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,040 I tell you what, it's more unfair when they've got six kids 339 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,840 and you've got two with a big age gap. 340 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:50,640 Let's open it to the panel. 341 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,400 What are our thoughts watching that? 342 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,280 You were just nailing it, like one up here, one down here. 343 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,160 We're going for a walk. 344 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,360 We'll leave here if we need to and it worked. 345 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,320 We would have approached that really, 346 00:17:04,360 --> 00:17:09,600 really differently but I'm curious because you said things like, 347 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,760 "Stop crying, calm down. You need to behave." 348 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:13,800 Yeah. 349 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,080 I guess I'm curious why crying isn't behaving. 350 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,720 For me, if my kid cried over something 351 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,160 that I thought wasn't something reasonable enough 352 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,880 to listen to that tantrum and the next time 353 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,960 I did it and they cried again the same way, 354 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,200 the first time they did that, because I haven't 355 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,640 corrected that action with them or discussed 356 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,240 why they've done that they're going to have the same reaction next time. 357 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,520 In my household, that's not acceptable. 358 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,680 I think what you're saying is when they're crying, 359 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,400 it's a moment for you to comfort them and be with them 360 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,520 and it's not necessarily about the behaviour. 361 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,080 It's about comforting them in the moment and maybe there's 362 00:17:50,120 --> 00:17:52,120 another chance after that to speak about the behaviour. 363 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,320 Again though, if every time they want comfort then, 364 00:17:55,360 --> 00:17:56,720 are they going to cry to you? 365 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,400 Are they going to react that way so you give them a cuddle? 366 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:00,840 They're three. 367 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,960 But if they're three, is that a bad thing? 368 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:04,160 That's unacceptable. 369 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:05,320 Yeah. 370 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:08,000 Just because you didn't get what you want, does not give you 371 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,600 the right to sit there and make everyone else feel bad. 372 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,560 I guess my point here is why is crying unacceptable? 373 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,680 So if our children fall over and they cry, straight up, 374 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,800 cuddle them, hug them, "Oh, baby, baby." 375 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,400 But if you're going to cry because you're not 376 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,040 going to get a lollipop, not in this household. 377 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,480 If you're going to cry over your sibling getting 378 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,960 to do something, that's not OK either. 379 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,760 You've got to be happy for that sibling, 380 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,160 be happy that Brooklyn was feeding that penguin. 381 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,600 If you're not feeling happy, then being told to 382 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,440 be happy is essentially being told to lie. 383 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,120 I'm just going to kind of bring this back 384 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,160 a step because it's the same sort of behaviour, 385 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,240 they're reacting poorly to a situation for that attention. 386 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:51,000 So if every time that same situation happened, you got smacked, 387 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,720 would you rectify that or would you sit there and let them work 388 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,360 their anger out by smacking you and then rectify that afterwards? 389 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:58,960 Well, it's the same thing to me. 390 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,240 Is there not a place to let out that feeling 391 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,360 and then move on and feel happy for it? 392 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,880 Why is crying a bad behaviour? 393 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,000 Why is screaming a bad behaviour? 394 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,120 Why is getting yelled at by your kids are bad behaviour? 395 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,400 Do you see how this can keep escalating? 396 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,160 I think if it keeps happening, 397 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,040 you then need to actually start to explore 398 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:17,400 why it's happening 399 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,400 because if they're seeking a comfort through that, 400 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,600 well, maybe they're not getting comforted in other ways. 401 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,400 We're all responsible for how we control those emotions. 402 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:27,440 At the end of the day, if you're going to cry 403 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:28,720 every time something goes wrong, 404 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,120 you sort of just, you're going to be sitting 405 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,440 in the corner crying a lot, really. 406 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,440 In our household, there's got to be an understanding 407 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,160 that not everybody gets what they want 408 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:40,000 and crying is not going to solve the situation. 409 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,080 But I guess for me, I think crying 410 00:19:42,120 --> 00:19:44,280 is the expression of that disappointment. 411 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:45,760 But how long are you going to let them cry for? 412 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,480 An hour, two hours, we don't have time for that. 413 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,880 Respecting your kid also means respecting their emotions. 414 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,880 So not ignoring it at all but also not shutting it down. 415 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,560 How long do you let them cry for? 416 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,800 Well, it usually would only take 4 or 5 minutes. 417 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,440 They're looking for attention, it's not OK. 418 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,800 Mark and Leanne, let's just stop for a sec. 419 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,200 There are some important things 420 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,480 that are worth really talking about here. 421 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,440 Would you be up for a chat outside? 422 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,000 The room is getting too heated. 423 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,320 I need to get Mark and Leanne out and into a place 424 00:20:20,360 --> 00:20:23,520 where they can listen and learn something important. 425 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,280 Mark and Leanne, the room's getting too heated. 426 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,720 Let's just stop for a sec. 427 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,720 Would you be up for a chat outside? 428 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:45,920 Grab a seat. 429 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,280 I would love to talk to you about what just happened. 430 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,200 You have to stop crying. 431 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,640 I'm going to take you back to the car then. No! 432 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,160 Then you need to stop. 433 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,480 There are a couple of ways that we might be able to work with 434 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,840 our kids when they're having these big emotions that could be 435 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,040 more effective and help your family to function better. 436 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,280 But I want to spin the conversation to you for a moment, Leanne. 437 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,560 Yep. Imagine that you're having a bit of a moment emotionally 438 00:21:13,120 --> 00:21:17,000 and Mark looks at you and says, "Leanne, stop it. 439 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,160 "Be quiet, that's enough. 440 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,240 You need to settle down." 441 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:22,800 Would you look at him and smile and say, 442 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,120 "Good point, honey, I am overreacting." 443 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,800 Oh, no, not at all. No, no, no. 444 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,160 My Maltese arms would be flying everywhere. 445 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,200 I think my hair would be going this way 446 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,440 from the amount of breeze would be coming from her voice. 447 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:35,680 Yeah, yeah. 448 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,880 When we're talking with our partner or with our kids 449 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,400 and they're having a big emotion, other than giving them space, 450 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,480 one of the most powerful things that we can do 451 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,040 is just to say what we see. 452 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,040 There's a phrase that psychologists have been using for decades called, 453 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,680 'If you can name it, you can tame it.' 454 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:58,520 So imagine that Bailey is having this fit and you said, 455 00:21:58,560 --> 00:21:59,760 "Oh, sweetheart, Bailey, 456 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:01,600 "you're so upset because you're not getting to feed 457 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:06,000 the penguins" and then you don't say another word. 458 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,960 How might she respond then? 459 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:13,440 She might start to probably slow down a bit 460 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,840 because she knows that I know she's upset and the reasons why. 461 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,840 Yeah, would she be like, "Oh, I'm upset and Dad knows exactly why." 462 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:25,720 Yeah. We call this process emotion coaching. 463 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,240 When our children are having these big moments, 464 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,040 they either need some form of validation 465 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,200 or they need some space, or both. 466 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,200 No one wants to be told to calm down. 467 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,200 If someone needs to calm down so that a conversation can be had, 468 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:45,600 by naming the emotion, the child will feel understood and secure 469 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,920 and then they can begin to tame that emotion on their own. 470 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,320 Thanks, guys. 471 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,560 Good chat? Great chat. 472 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:02,760 Life is unfair, that's the reality, but parents have an obligation 473 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,000 to teach their children socially acceptable behaviours. 474 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:10,040 If a child is losing the plot, then the parent has an obligation 475 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,560 to teach that child that while those emotions might be acceptable, 476 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,360 there's a way that we're expected to behave in public 477 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:17,720 or at Grandma's house 478 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,440 or down at the park or whatever it might be. 479 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,160 The more emotional somebody is, 480 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,440 the harder it is to actually communicate with them. 481 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,600 We need to help them to regulate their emotions 482 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,880 so that we can have a problem-solving conversation. 483 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:35,240 The greatest human need is not to be loved, but to be understood. 484 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,960 OK, we've just had our first glimpse into our 485 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,880 new focus parents, so I think it's time 486 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,080 to look a little deeper at Jonathan 487 00:23:46,120 --> 00:23:49,120 and Kat's parenting style, our influencers. 488 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,520 Influencer parenting works on two levels. 489 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,800 It's about using social media and technology 490 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,840 as opportunities for connection 491 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,400 but it's also about influencing kids through 492 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,720 role modeling rather than direction. 493 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,360 Hi, I'm Jonathan. I'm Kat. 494 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:07,520 Welcome to our home. 495 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,160 Come on in. We take an influencer approach to parenting. 496 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,520 Hey guys, we're going to make a simple summer salad. 497 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,320 I'm on Instagram, Facebook, Snapchat, and TikTok. 498 00:24:18,360 --> 00:24:21,240 I love adding rocket. 499 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,080 The content I like to create is just sharing my everyday life. 500 00:24:25,120 --> 00:24:27,640 And that's it, you pop it in your fridge. 501 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,440 The importance of social media is massive. 502 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:31,560 Do I know you from TikTok? 503 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,240 Yeah. 504 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:34,560 I actually watch all your videos. 505 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:35,960 Oh, that's awesome. 506 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,240 I love that. 507 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:41,040 We teach our kids how to use social media appropriately, 508 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,760 what the pitfalls are but also what the opportunities are 509 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,600 and how to really use that tool to their advantage. 510 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,040 Having a digital profile and having a digital awareness about 511 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:58,520 how to interact on those platforms is massively advantageous. 512 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,240 Every profession in every facet of life can really 513 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,520 benefit from knowing how to use it effectively 514 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,480 and not to mention the monetary gain 515 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,440 that can be had with things like that. 516 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,160 Both our children have social media accounts. 517 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,280 What should we do next, guys? 518 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:22,320 I use Tik Tok, Instagram and Snapchat and on Instagram 519 00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:27,080 I have 3000 followers and same on TikTok. 520 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,920 We were both raised by very strict parents 521 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,440 and we decided to raise our kids the complete opposite. 522 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:35,840 Where are you going? 523 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,440 Korean barbecue. 524 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,200 Jealous! 525 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,760 We don't want to be telling our kids what to do. 526 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,040 We don't want to be preaching to them 527 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,760 or yelling at them, because we're fun. 528 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,800 Alright, ready, set, go. 529 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,600 When I was a kid, I did everything I could to 530 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,440 not communicate with my parents. 531 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,000 Work it, work it. 532 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,560 So what I get out of creating content with my girls 533 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,480 is spending time with my kids 534 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,480 and it's having that more of an influential role 535 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,720 in your kids' upbringing. 536 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,400 Oh, my gosh, yes. Tag me. Tag me. 537 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,680 I loved how you said that it's important to 538 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,800 set an example on how you hold yourself 539 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,640 in a digital platform and it is a part of the world that we live in. 540 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:25,680 We don't have a TV or our kids don't get much tech at all. 541 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,600 I'm curious what age maybe like you gave your kids 542 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,520 an account or what you felt was appropriate. 543 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,360 Deja is 11 so she's been on social media 544 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,240 for a couple of years. 545 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,960 So yeah, maybe 9, 10. 546 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,440 Do you monitor what she posts and what comes into the account? 547 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,320 Yeah. So when she, like, asked us about getting an account, 548 00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:50,680 we would monitor all her messages, 549 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,080 like, we would have access to everything 550 00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:55,600 and we still do on some different platforms 551 00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:01,120 and they're not just sitting there watching, they're creating stuff. 552 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,680 Is that intentional that they're not like 553 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,640 zoning out or how do you sort of know 554 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,320 how much creating and how much mindless scrolling 555 00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:09,360 they might be doing? 556 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,280 I think it's more because of the way that we use it, 557 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:12,560 they sort of model that. 558 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:13,960 So we're not just mindless scrolling, 559 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,280 we're creating content ourselves 560 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,360 and we're interacting with family and friends a lot as well. 561 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,960 But do you want to do everything in your life for the likes? 562 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,720 Like is everything potential material for Instagram and TikTok? 563 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,360 Is it always in the back of your mind? 564 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:29,920 It's because it's my job, 565 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:34,600 so it feels like I have to be showing people my life. 566 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,280 I think it's a real worry to get wound up in the numbers of it. 567 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,400 Like he's got 10,000 or 100 million or... 568 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,960 But are the likes are important when you guys monetise it 569 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,520 so I imagine the likes are very important to you. 570 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,480 Do the kids monetise their platforms as well? 571 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:55,840 Tisha's just started because she's up to 500,000 followers now. 572 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,880 I guess what I'm probably struggling with a little bit 573 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,960 is children are learning to get validation 574 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,480 from complete strangers and we really try to teach 575 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,160 our kids that it's not physical appearance, 576 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,120 it's emotional intelligence and it's being kind 577 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,520 and it's having strength in life 578 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,200 and that's sort of the driving force behind things, 579 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,480 not people's opinion of you. 580 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,640 What it is, it's how we lay the foundation 581 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,800 and letting them know that they are more than 582 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,480 their Instagram profile or their TikTok profile. 583 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,200 In reality, they are going to have a TikTok profile and they 584 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,680 are going to have an Instagram profile and you can't like, 585 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,320 as much as you think you can control that, you can't. 586 00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:35,000 No, they're not going to. 587 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,160 Being able to educate our children on how to use 588 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,280 social media is so important because a lot of parents 589 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,280 that are taking social media off their kids 590 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,760 are doing it because they don't know how it works. 591 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:49,960 To be on social media at nine. 592 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,360 That really was really a bit of a concern for me. 593 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,280 It's definitely something I would 594 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,240 not want to happen with our children. 595 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,600 When kids are accessing social media, 596 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,240 they need to have the social skills and capacity 597 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,400 to use it safely and healthily. 598 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,160 We all know some adults who can't do that 599 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,520 so expecting young kids to do that, 600 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,320 it's going to be a bit of a trick. 601 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,880 Your kids will find a way to be on social media, 602 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,160 it's better to be open about it and to monitor. 603 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,800 Therefore as parents we've got to be actively involved, 604 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,000 having conversations, 605 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,480 guiding their social media use and knowing what's going on. 606 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,800 Coming up, an X-rated topic... 607 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,600 Look, at the end of the day, boys are curious. 608 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,880 So do you think deleting the browser history is lying? 609 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,200 ..heats up the room. 610 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,160 That was really uncomfortable that it's OK for your sons 611 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,720 to objectify someone else's daughter? 612 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,040 And later... 613 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,240 Are you ready to find out what they're thinking so far? 614 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:47,200 ..our panel votes for their favourite parents of the night. 615 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,120 In the search for the best parenting style, 616 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,920 we need to see more from you, focus parents. 617 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,680 Panel parents, grab those journals, we need you to be taking notes. 618 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,280 Once we see all the challenges, you're going to vote for the focus 619 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,320 parents you'd like to see face the final family challenge. 620 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,160 How kids navigate the internet safely 621 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,480 is one of parenting's greatest issues. 622 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,680 We gave you a laptop for your kids to research online. 623 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,880 The laptop was pre-programmed to make 624 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,280 a pop-up appear to ask your kids whether 625 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,560 they were over 18 or not 626 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:39,120 and whether they wanted to access adult content. 627 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:46,480 Do they click yes or do they click no? 628 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,920 The biggest concern for most families 629 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,640 is keeping their kids safe online. 630 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,160 In this challenge, we're looking to see what our 631 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,920 parents have taught their kids about explicit content 632 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,560 and whether or not an online temptation 633 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,720 is going to be too much to resist. 634 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,320 Now, just to assure everybody, no one actually 635 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,880 saw anything they shouldn't have. 636 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,040 Let's see if your kids know how to be safe online. 637 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:25,360 Do your kids know how to research in the technology age? 638 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:30,120 Ask your child to use a laptop to find out all about Uranus. 639 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,560 How big is Uranus? 640 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,560 What gases are found in Uranus? 641 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,240 Why can't people live in Uranus? 642 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,800 This challenge will examine what our focus parents 643 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,120 have taught their kids about being tech-savvy. 644 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,800 Facts about Uranus. 645 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,560 I work in IT industry, I try to use that 646 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,200 to an advantage with our kids. 647 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,640 Uranus was discovered in 1781. 648 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,400 I've had conversations with the children 649 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,680 on how they should be using it. 650 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:08,400 Uranus has the third... 651 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,360 KAJAL: Mridula. Coming. 652 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,320 Make sure you spell it properly. 653 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,840 Some quite spicy things could have come up on the internet. 654 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,800 We'll leave this one up to you, Deja. 655 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,120 Yeah, let's go. 656 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:45,000 So our influencer parenting approach to the internet is to teach 657 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:49,200 our kids to make sure they're looking at age-appropriate stuff. 658 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,120 Yeah, good luck. 659 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,160 And to let us know if anything does come up 660 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,520 that they shouldn't be looking at. 661 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,200 Why can't people live on... 662 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,160 Our rules around technology are basically non-existent 663 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,280 and that's because we trust our kids. 664 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,760 We trust them because they've shown us 665 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,200 to be completely capable and responsible. 666 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,840 You can't restrict your kids from using the internet. 667 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,360 I think our role as parents is to educate them 668 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,120 on how to use it and how to use it safely. 669 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:06,160 I think you guys did an amazing job, both families, very well done. 670 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,480 I like the way Jonathan and Kat, you approached it 671 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,600 with trusting your children so much. 672 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,160 We tend to do the same thing. 673 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,560 We just have an open door policy that her bedroom door is open. 674 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,920 And you guys have no rules around this, do you? 675 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,680 No, because we've educated them so if anything was 676 00:34:26,720 --> 00:34:29,720 to pop up or if they were unsure of anything, 677 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,880 I know they would come to us and tell us. 678 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,160 What if something does pop up? 679 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,880 Like, if there is an image that comes up on screen, 680 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,520 so like a pornographic image or whatnot. 681 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,640 How do you, I guess once it's there, it's there, 682 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,360 you can't then remove it from, 683 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,360 it's ingrained into their memory then. 684 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,440 I know that my daughter would come to me. 685 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,640 But she's already seen it. 686 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,960 Whether she sees it on my computer or at school 687 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,000 or at her friend's place, on the phone, 688 00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,880 she's going to see that. 689 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,720 So Jonathan just to what you're saying, 690 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,680 are you saying it is then a necessary evil 691 00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:07,360 that you are just going to see stuff when you are online? 692 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,600 I think you're going to... Yeah, definitely. 693 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,680 You are going to see stuff and things are going to 694 00:35:11,720 --> 00:35:14,160 pop up and it may not be you, 695 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,800 it may be your friend or maybe some in some other situation. 696 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,040 I think it's more about educating the child on what to do 697 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,080 when that happens and how to handle the situation 698 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,880 when it arises, rather than shielding them completely 699 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,920 from it because I don't think that's possible. 700 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,440 Just like we found Playboy magazines 701 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,360 in our parents' room when we were younger. 702 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,800 I found one under my bed recently. 703 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,480 Mark, is this your Playboy? "No, it's not." 704 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:41,920 Oh. 705 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,320 Let's move on and have a look at our other 706 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,280 two families who have teenage boys. 707 00:35:49,240 --> 00:35:54,160 If the kids did say yes, the browser simply shut down. 708 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:55,760 Oh good. 709 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,800 Studies show that teenagers are far more likely than younger 710 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:05,000 children to actively seek out explicit content. 711 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,800 I'm expecting some 'yes' clicks here. 712 00:36:08,720 --> 00:36:10,800 Hey, hey, hey. 713 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,160 What? What? What? 714 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,480 We have something special for one of you to do. 715 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,240 We've picked the child that loves planets the most. 716 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,000 I did make a solar system in Year Five, so. 717 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,280 All right, Matt, you're up. 718 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,200 If you can tell me what Uranus looks like, that'd be awesome. 719 00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:31,600 I think we'd like to think that our kids would behave online. 720 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,640 Good luck. Find out as much as you can. 721 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,840 I will. You know, we've had those conversations with our children 722 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,720 in regards to behaviour and what's appropriate 723 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,120 and what's not appropriate. 724 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,840 In regards to our boys, who share a room 725 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,280 looking up dodgy content, 100% they would. 726 00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:52,040 Not being rude here, but I know it was like as a kid. 727 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,640 Apple doesn't fall far from the tree, no doubt. 728 00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:19,160 In regards to our boys, who share a room, 729 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,600 looking up dodgy content, 100% they would. 730 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:39,840 (CHUCKLES) 731 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,040 Oh, my god. 732 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,840 Deleting his browsing history. 733 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,960 Oh, you're done, my boy. How'd you go? 734 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,560 I went good. Yeah? Yeah. 735 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:04,720 In my opinion, I went pretty good. 736 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,520 My question is do you actually know more about Uranus now? 737 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:08,560 Yeah, I do. 738 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:09,600 Yes. 739 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,240 How much do you know about Uranus? 740 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:20,920 It has a ring around it. 741 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,920 In the stage parenting style, our children definitely 742 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,680 spend a fair bit of time online. 743 00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:31,600 We would like you to do some research on your own. 744 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:36,600 We want you to expel as much information as you can from Uranus. 745 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,440 Our kids do know how to interact in the online community. 746 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:48,160 Online safety is important to us but we trust our kids. 747 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:49,880 They're tech-savvy enough to be able to cope 748 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,720 with just about any situation. 749 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,880 Oh, naughty boy. 750 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,000 It is the only planet to be able... 751 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:15,440 What! 752 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:19,520 There's some expectation 753 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,360 that if anything weird pops up on the screen, 754 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,240 they talk to us about it straight away. 755 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,200 Hey. How'd you go, champ? 756 00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:28,160 It was pretty good. 757 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:33,080 It rains diamonds, and it's a really boring planet. 758 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,120 Great. 759 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,560 When we look at the data globally 760 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,360 when it comes to explicit content, 761 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,600 teenage boys are the number one consumer of this content 762 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,600 in the world, boys aged 14 to 17. 763 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,800 And I think pretty much every family sitting at home 764 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,480 with teenage boys sitting there going, 765 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,360 "Uh-huh, I know what our boys would do too." 766 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,720 So do you think deleting the browser history is lying? 767 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,880 Matthew was upfront and honest with me 768 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,680 that night and at the dinner table he said, 769 00:40:07,720 --> 00:40:12,160 "Mum, just to let you know, when I was googling Uranus, 770 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,640 "'yes or no' came up about under 18 and I pressed yes." 771 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,160 He has definitely hidden his history browser before, 772 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,000 he did that really quickly. 773 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,600 And then I said, "Matt, why did you do that?" 774 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,680 And he said, "I don't know. 775 00:40:25,720 --> 00:40:27,400 I just wanted to see what would happen." 776 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,520 I like the fact that he just told you about it. 777 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,560 100%, 100% as soon as he told me, I'm like "Matt, 778 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:33,800 "now we're going to go on the show 779 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,640 and we're going to be criticised for it." 780 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,720 That's not what this is about at all. 781 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,880 I mean, we look at the first two families and we're looking at 782 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:48,400 11-year-old girls and we're now talking about teenage boys. 783 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,760 Can I ask you, Sarah and Shane, when Zion came out 784 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,640 he didn't mention anything about what had happened, 785 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,360 did he fess up that he had clicked yes? 786 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,360 No. Nothing. 787 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:04,560 I mean, I'm actually fine, he's a boy, we discussed pornography, 788 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,000 all that kind of stuff. I know that he's seen it. 789 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,920 I mean, look, at the end of the day, boys are curious. 790 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,000 They're going through that sort of stage in their life. 791 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,280 So if your daughter was doing it, 792 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,280 do you think she would have clicked yes or no? 793 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,600 No, she's not that type of person. 794 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,880 Can I ask, do we have different standards then for girls and boys? 795 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,880 Maybe it's just a bit of a cultural norm that it's OK 796 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,280 for boys to do that but we'd be surprised if the girls did. 797 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,240 Well I think girls get tarnished for 798 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,760 being explicit and for being sexual. 799 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:36,920 Yeah, for sure. 800 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,280 That was really uncomfortable that it was fine. 801 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,360 It's, you know, "This is what teenage boys do, that's fine, 802 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,080 but my girls would never do that" 803 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,440 and that's like total double standard that it's OK 804 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,160 for your sons to objectify someone else's daughter. 805 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,160 Like that's what it comes down to, she's someone's daughter. 806 00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:58,000 I think there are plenty of 15-year-old girls that would say, 807 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,840 yes, no problem, you know, wouldn't even... 808 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,080 I would have when I was 15. 809 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,240 I would have totally. You would expect 810 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,560 any child at 15 to press yeah, I'm good. 811 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,760 I'm 18, I got this, you know, I don't think there should be 812 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,360 an expectation for a teenager to go by the rules. 813 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,360 When I hear the way this conversation is going, 814 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,880 I become a little concerned. 815 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,320 The pornographic material of 2022 is vastly different 816 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:31,080 to the pornographic material of the 1980s, 1990s. 817 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:35,920 The internet has accelerated, magnified and amplified 818 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:41,040 some of the worst aspects of what was already a seedy industry. 819 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,080 We're dealing with this at a society-wide level. 820 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:48,600 The average age of exposure to pornographic material is 11. 821 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:56,880 Research shows that youth who viewed pornography once a month 822 00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:01,880 or more are at significantly greater risk of developing depression, 823 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:06,920 anxiety and importantly, unrealistic ideas about sexual relationships. 824 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:14,320 The research is clear, consumption of explicit content has a negative 825 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:19,480 impact on intimacy and healthy, respectful relationships. 826 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,480 As parents, it's critical that we start having conversations 827 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,520 with our kids about this issue from about the age of nine. 828 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,680 Now let's remind ourselves why we're here. 829 00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:35,320 It's really all about the kids, right? 830 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,200 We ask them all about you and you just never know 831 00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:40,680 what they're going to say, do you? 832 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:48,800 Encouraging. 833 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,800 They are nice and caring for us and they look after us good. 834 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,360 Crazy. 835 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,280 Weird, very weird. 836 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,080 Yes, and all of my friends love his hair. 837 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,440 He's really fit and buff. 838 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,160 He's like Shane the Rock Johnson. 839 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,000 Funny, he always tells dad jokes. 840 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,680 One time in the middle of the night, my dad farted very loudly. 841 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:33,400 I like how she can be really nice sometimes. 842 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:36,640 Because when we're playing footy, 843 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,400 she's always there watching us, screaming. 844 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:40,520 Like "Billy!" 845 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,960 I think I want to be like my mum because she's like 846 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:49,840 an influencer and like, she's really rich. 847 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,600 Oh, my god, Deja! 848 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:56,360 God. 849 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,280 My mum. Definitely Mum. Mummy. 850 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,640 Dad. Dad. 851 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:13,160 Just so we all know, I'm the boss of the family, not Mark. 852 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,000 We know, babe, we know. 853 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,800 Not according to the kids, Leanne. 854 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,120 Next... 855 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,200 Tell me if I'm going to hit the car. 856 00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:23,960 You might. 857 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,240 It's cruise control chaos. 858 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:27,760 You're going to hit the car, stop! 859 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,760 Oh, my god. Watch out, Mum! (CLANK) 860 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,080 And a communication breakdown. 861 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:33,240 Are we all just going to ignore the fact 862 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:34,280 that you dropped the F-bomb? 863 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,680 This is a hot button topic, swearing in front of the kids. 864 00:45:36,720 --> 00:45:38,120 We don't swear. 865 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,360 We live in the real world. 866 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:53,000 We're here to find the best parenting style in Australia. 867 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,040 Today, I mean, we've already learnt so much 868 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:56,640 I think about each other as parents, 869 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,600 but I reckon it is time to take a deep dive 870 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,280 into Deepak and Kajal's spiritual parenting. 871 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,720 Spiritual parenting focuses on raising kids to have gratitude, 872 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:12,440 a strong moral compass, and a purpose to serve others. 873 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,200 While this type of parenting is often based in religion, 874 00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:20,520 it is more about the emotional and internal growth of the children. 875 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:25,360 ALL: Namaste. Welcome to our spiritual house. 876 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,520 Spiritual parenting means parenting 877 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,040 to the needs of the child on the physical level, 878 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:35,280 on the intellectual level, and also on the spiritual level. 879 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,040 (CHANTING IN HINDU) 880 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:40,240 Coming from a Hindu background, 881 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,400 what spirituality means to us is that we are all spirits. 882 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,240 We start with an invocation prayer, (SPEAKS IN HINDU). 883 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:56,400 So our job as parents is to guide our children in the overall journey. 884 00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,680 (SINGING IN HINDU) 885 00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:03,440 And so what we teach them is to be honest, 886 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,680 be kind, don't hurt each other. 887 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:09,880 The only routine we say we have, 888 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,320 we spend some time of the day in gratitude, 889 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,880 in praying, in chanting, for the growth of our inner selves. 890 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:18,840 How is it? Yummy. 891 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:19,960 Yummy. 892 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,280 Living with the parents, Kamal and my mum, Dharma 893 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:27,160 has its advantages because we can see that our 894 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,640 children are learning from their grandparents. 895 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,200 Let us always be grateful for all the love 896 00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:35,560 and care that our family constantly showers on us. 897 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,880 Our children, I believe are very old souls. 898 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,080 As parents, there are times when we are not the bosses. 899 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:46,280 It's not just us raising kids, the kids are raising us spiritually. 900 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:48,760 They teach us every day. 901 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:49,800 Every day. 902 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,640 We all learn from each other. 903 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:52,680 Yes. 904 00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:54,920 So you see the beautiful lesson we learned from this story? 905 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,840 Yes. What should we do? Always be grateful family. 906 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,720 Yeah, so you understand the lesson? 907 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,200 Yeah. 908 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:09,680 I think nowadays it's really good to give children another dimension. 909 00:48:09,720 --> 00:48:12,280 It's almost like mindfulness at school. 910 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,960 I mean, it's deeper than that obviously. 911 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,840 Having a strong sense of self and being able 912 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,920 to be spiritual and have that 913 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:25,880 to lean on is something that you need in a hectic, busy, crazy life. 914 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,560 As spiritual people, we believe the whole world is a teacher. 915 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,000 Every situation is a teacher. 916 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,880 So it's not confined to a religious book or religious text 917 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,040 or even a congregation on Sundays. 918 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,880 Spiritual is something on the inside only. 919 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,360 Externals don't matter, it's the spirit. 920 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,040 It's the intention. 921 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,480 And everyone, I believe, can have a pure intention. 922 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,840 Your parents live in the house with you. 923 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,400 Can I ask people's thoughts on that? 924 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,120 And then if you put yourself in that situation. 925 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,400 Who'd be happy with their parents living with them 926 00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,200 and how that changes the dynamic? 927 00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:02,480 It wouldn't be healthy for anyone. 928 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,560 You know, in that situation, it's beautiful. 929 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,360 In our situation, it's Nightmare on Elm Street type of stuff. 930 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:08,960 It's terrible. 931 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:14,040 Yeah, I think it's like so valuable to have generations living together. 932 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,680 In Asia, they do that so well. 933 00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:20,120 And I feel like in the West here, we're kind of missing out on that. 934 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:21,400 Our children are missing out. 935 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,800 We're missing out on the wonderful experiences 936 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,680 of living with generations. 937 00:49:26,720 --> 00:49:29,480 And we can see that our kids have actually grown from 938 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,520 this influence of grandparents in their lives. 939 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:39,000 It's also, again, it's us letting go of our complete 100% parenting. 940 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,720 If circumstances allow it, 941 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:43,880 having grandparents involved in raising your kids 942 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,000 can provide great support for you 943 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,960 and a wise perspective for your children. 944 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,280 Of course, even though it takes a village to raise a child, 945 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,640 you might not want the entire village living under the one roof. 946 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,680 Alright, who's ready for another challenge? 947 00:49:58,720 --> 00:50:00,040 Yeah. 948 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,640 Being a parent can sometimes feel like 949 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,320 we're always going backwards, right? 950 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:11,440 So we gave you the reverse park challenge. 951 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,560 We put you in the driver's seat to reverse 952 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:19,440 parallel park while the kids directed you. 953 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,600 All the parents have to do is support their kids 954 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:27,080 and pay attention to their directions. 955 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,800 Handing over control to our kids is really 956 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,400 important to their development. 957 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:36,040 When they feel trusted and heard, their sense of self-worth increases 958 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,480 and their relationship with their parents improves. 959 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,800 (INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PLAYS) 960 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,320 Oh, how much can you hand over control? 961 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:52,560 Park the car in the designated spot with your children guiding you in. 962 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:56,000 No mirrors or reverse cameras allowed. 963 00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,560 In this challenge, we're looking to see 964 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,720 which parents can relinquish control. 965 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,600 Good god. Oh. 966 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:06,000 And trust their children to communicate effectively. 967 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:07,880 Deja, how do you think you'll go? 968 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,400 Guess what, River, you're going to get out and help us. 969 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,200 What? 970 00:51:19,240 --> 00:51:21,640 (DRAMATIC VOICE) Two adults at the mercy of 971 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,600 three inexperienced children. 972 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,120 What could happen? 973 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,680 If I can go a little bit further back, you have to go like this. 974 00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:32,320 And if I need to stop, you have to go like that, OK? 975 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,480 I think our parenting style has prepared 976 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,240 our children for this challenge really well 977 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,280 because they're used to communicate 978 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,880 their ideas clearly and effectively. 979 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,760 I need to go forward? Yeah. 980 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,440 That looks like a forward signal to me. 981 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:45,920 No, back. 982 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,120 Stop. Stop, stop. 983 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,520 Tell me if I'm gonna hit the car. You might. 984 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:56,520 (LAUGHTER) You can't go any further. 985 00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:57,600 Can I go forward now? 986 00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,240 Are you going to do the same for this end? 987 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,800 Forward, forward. Barely any space. 988 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,200 OK. Park. 989 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,680 Well done! Are you happy with that? 990 00:52:05,720 --> 00:52:07,080 Yeah, sure. 991 00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,560 If everything else fails, you could be a parking attendant. 992 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:13,480 Mridula. Yeah. 993 00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,040 You have to teach us how to park the car, like tell us. 994 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,960 Reverse, reverse left. 995 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,000 She said reverse. 996 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:23,160 OK. 997 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,120 As far as spiritual parenting goes... 998 00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:26,160 Keep on going. 999 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,120 ..we should rely on our kids more, like when they 1000 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,240 have an opinion, when they have a voice, 1001 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,360 be attentive to their voice. 1002 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:34,480 This way, go left. 1003 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,560 She is saying that way... Left. 1004 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,280 No, no, no, no, no, no. 1005 00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:39,480 Toward me. This way is opposite. 1006 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:40,560 OK. 1007 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,520 I'm a side-seat driver, backseat driver, in head driver. 1008 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,480 Rely on yourself as well as Mridula, but rely on yourself more. 1009 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:50,800 Go a little bit back. 1010 00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:51,840 Back, stop. 1011 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,720 Keep going a little bit. A little bit. 1012 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,640 Stop. Yeah, reverse. 1013 00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:57,960 You're gonna hit the car. Stop! 1014 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,040 Just straight, just go reverse. That's it. 1015 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,360 You're gonna hit the car. 1016 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:02,760 Go forward. 1017 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,080 You're gonna hit the car! 1018 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:05,440 (CLANK) 1019 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,200 Hey! 1020 00:53:07,240 --> 00:53:08,360 Need to listen to her. 1021 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:09,880 Oh, no. 1022 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,480 Due to not listening to Mridula's instructions of stopping, 1023 00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,480 we thought we'd just sneak it in and no, we hit the car. 1024 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:16,720 See how close it was. 1025 00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,840 Look at that mark you made there. 1026 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,320 Oopsy. Oh, there. 1027 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:27,040 So after you said "Stop," we, Mummy, reversed back more, ooh. 1028 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,880 You hit the car! 1029 00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:35,120 Can we hide? 1030 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,000 Could you hear your daughter? 1031 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:38,280 I could definitely hear her. 1032 00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,280 She had incredible clear communication, 1033 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:42,880 but I think you needed to 1034 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,840 listen to her because she was giving really great instruction. 1035 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,080 Absolutely. 1036 00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,640 And then you were saying, trust her. 1037 00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,680 But then you were saying to your wife, but don't. 1038 00:53:53,720 --> 00:53:55,080 Maybe look like there was clarity, 1039 00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,080 but I think there was a lot of blurred line there. 1040 00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:58,640 I think our biggest challenge was me. 1041 00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,000 I think you're right. 1042 00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:05,960 I want to pick up on this for just a moment as a parenting tip. 1043 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,080 As the pressure increases, we speed up. 1044 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:09,120 Have you noticed that? 1045 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,280 And as the pressure goes up, our thinking becomes less clear, 1046 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,760 we're less able to take in additional perspectives and be open to 1047 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,280 what somebody else might be saying 'cause we know we're right. 1048 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,480 Our children have perspectives that are valuable, 1049 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,400 and they can give us excellent direction 1050 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,160 if we're willing to stop thinking that we 1051 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,000 know it all and overriding their voices. 1052 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,880 Let's talk about how our stage parents handled that challenge. 1053 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,800 I loved it. I thought you gave such clear instructions 1054 00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:38,840 at the start in terms of if they move, 1055 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,120 show me with your hands or do this or do that. 1056 00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,200 But you gave up that control and he proved 1057 00:54:43,240 --> 00:54:45,520 that you can do that and trust him. 1058 00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:50,040 Alright, we have two more parenting styles to watch. 1059 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,040 Ella Skye, you're the chosen one. 1060 00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,960 OK, so shall we start turning in now? 1061 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,760 Yeah. OK, start turning. 1062 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,640 Turn the wheel. Which way, Ella? Which way are we going? 1063 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,080 Left. Left. Right, right. 1064 00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:06,480 No, you're going left, Ella. 1065 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,720 Left. Hang on, now I'm confused. 1066 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,480 No, turn right. 1067 00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:11,640 Our kids listen to us. 1068 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,120 And we listen to our children. 1069 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,080 After about the fifth or sixth time, they listen well. 1070 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:18,880 You just tell us when to stop, Ella. 1071 00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:20,280 You're fine. 1072 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,320 Someone... Watch out, Mum! 1073 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:24,680 No, Matt, seriously. 1074 00:55:24,720 --> 00:55:28,240 (INDISTINCT) children talking to us at once, organised chaos. 1075 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:29,680 Matt, this is not... I'm sorry. 1076 00:55:29,720 --> 00:55:30,840 Hey, stop, stop. 1077 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,920 Stop, stop, stop, stop! (CLANK) 1078 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:35,280 Oh, did I hit something? 1079 00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:40,280 OK, stop, stop. 1080 00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:41,720 Yeah, OK, that's... That's it? 1081 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,120 Ells, you got us in! We're done. 1082 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:45,840 You did it. Good job. 1083 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:47,200 Woo! 1084 00:55:47,240 --> 00:55:49,000 (APPLAUSE) 1085 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,880 OK, tell me when I'm near the curb, OK? 1086 00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,040 Yep, keep going. 1087 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,040 You can go back more. 1088 00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:04,720 I feel like I am good at handing over control, 1089 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:08,200 but sometimes I feel like I can just do it better. 1090 00:56:08,240 --> 00:56:10,160 Just tell me if I'm going to hit that car. 1091 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,880 OK. You're going to hit it. 1092 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:19,680 We got this, OK. 1093 00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:22,600 Stop! (BLEEP) 1094 00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,600 Turn straight now. 1095 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:29,880 Yeah. 1096 00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:31,480 Sweet. We did it. 1097 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:32,600 Yes. 1098 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,240 Oh, my gosh. 1099 00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,800 Deja, that was super stressful. 1100 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,560 OK, panel, your thoughts. 1101 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:41,800 For the influencers, they have really 1102 00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:43,880 great communication with each other. 1103 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,080 Kind of don't hold back and just say what it is, which is always good. 1104 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:48,200 I like that. 1105 00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:51,000 The other the, other family was a little bit chaotic, 1106 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:54,440 but I'm speaking from a one-child perspective. 1107 00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,640 I think it's worth highlighting. 1108 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,040 Six children is so intense. 1109 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:01,480 Yeah, it is. 1110 00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:05,960 You know what? I've actually never ever noticed, but watching that 1111 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,560 like, gave me a headache. 1112 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,080 It was like, wow! 1113 00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,000 Are we all just going to ignore the fact that you drop the F-bomb? 1114 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:14,320 PANEL: Yeah. 1115 00:57:15,720 --> 00:57:18,680 This is a hot-button topic, swearing in front of the kids. 1116 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:22,240 Where do Australian parents really belong on this one? 1117 00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:23,560 What's right and what's wrong when it comes to 1118 00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:24,760 swearing in front of the kids? 1119 00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:26,920 Look, depending on how it's used, 1120 00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,720 depending on the choice of word, I'm OK with it. 1121 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,080 If it's sort of set in jest. 1122 00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,400 If you've got a relationship, if they know what's appropriate, 1123 00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,120 they're not gonna go at the shops and suddenly say that. 1124 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,960 We don't swear ourselves and our kids do know some of those words, 1125 00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,440 but they also know we speak with kindness to other people. 1126 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,880 And so I guess it's like using it towards other people 1127 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,040 that would absolutely be crossing a line. 1128 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:50,760 We live in the real world and you're 1129 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,960 gonna hear swearing wherever you go. 1130 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,280 We don't make it a habit to swear on purpose. 1131 00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:57,680 It comes out every now and then. 1132 00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:59,560 But our kids know not to swear and they don't go around 1133 00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,040 swearing in the house, F this, F that. 1134 00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,200 If you shelter kids and, you know, don't use that language, 1135 00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:09,560 it's kind of a big deal when they actually do swear. 1136 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,840 And I don't swear a lot when I'm at home, 1137 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,320 like that was a really intense situation. 1138 00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,400 A couple of quick thoughts from me on the swearing issue, 1139 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,680 because coarse language, 1140 00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,960 explicit language is really a values-based issue, 1141 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,800 there's not a lot of science that I can lean on here. 1142 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,120 It's everywhere. Our kids are gonna be exposed to it. 1143 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,040 There's no way that they can avoid it. 1144 00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,840 But in spite of that, the critical thing here 1145 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,680 is that we teach them to be considerate because certain 1146 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,280 audiences will not tolerate it and other audiences 1147 00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:40,440 are completely comfortable with it. 1148 00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,760 So context is everything. 1149 00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,080 So it really is about teaching children to think 1150 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:49,440 beyond themselves and pass on to your children 1151 00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,520 the values that you hold dear when it comes to this kind of thing. 1152 00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:54,720 I have no problem with swearing. 1153 00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,160 I have a problem with how you swear. 1154 00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,000 The fact that she said it in such a casual, leisurely, 1155 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,760 appropriate kind of way, it was all a bit of a laugh. 1156 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:04,760 There was no one offended in that space. 1157 00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,000 I'm perfectly fine with that. 1158 00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,520 In our home, we are very mindful of what we say 1159 00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,040 and it's about swearing. 1160 00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:12,120 Other people are doing it. 1161 00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,040 For me, it's just the way the river flows, 1162 00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,360 the stream - that's the norm nowadays. 1163 00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,400 But we don't have to go along with the norm. 1164 00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:21,360 Still to come... 1165 00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:25,240 Do your kids know where babies come from? 1166 00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:26,560 One more challenge... 1167 00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,160 What's the girl's private part? 1168 00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,120 Venus? No. 1169 00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,760 ..has our families fumbling in the dark. 1170 00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,280 That's not something that I want for you guys. 1171 00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,960 If something really bad was to happen, 1172 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:39,960 we want them to be able to verbalise it. 1173 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,920 And who will be voted best parenting style tonight? 1174 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,120 We're up to our last challenge of the night, 1175 00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:59,880 and it's one that every parent across Australia will have to face. 1176 01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,680 The next challenge is you've got to help your kids answer 1177 01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:08,640 that classic curveball question - where did I come from? 1178 01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,920 So, we want to see how you've educated your children 1179 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:18,160 about anatomy and sexual reproduction. 1180 01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:23,360 Google and the internet is the number one sex educator 1181 01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,320 in the world for our children. 1182 01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,720 Teaching our kids about where they came from 1183 01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:29,600 might seem like a daunting task, 1184 01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:30,960 but it doesn't have to be. 1185 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:34,640 We're looking to see if our parents use proper anatomical terms 1186 01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,720 or just a bunch of stork talk. 1187 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,840 Hold on to your perineums. We're about to get some life education. 1188 01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,360 (INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PLAYS) 1189 01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:51,520 Do your kids know where babies come from? 1190 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:52,560 Let's find out. 1191 01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:57,040 You're going to test your kids on anatomy and reproduction. 1192 01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,040 Oh. 1193 01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,160 This will be very interesting. 1194 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:02,480 It's very interesting. 1195 01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:04,520 In this challenge, we are testing what 1196 01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:06,160 our parents have taught their kids 1197 01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:09,120 about their bodies and how comfortable they are 1198 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:10,720 talking about it. 1199 01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:16,640 What is the correct name for a girl's external private parts? 1200 01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,520 The reproductory system. 1201 01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,440 No, no, what is it? What is it? 1202 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:26,680 Can Ella answer that one? 1203 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,000 Ella, what's this called on your body? 1204 01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,040 Va, va...? Vagina. 1205 01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,360 Yes, ten points to Ella! 1206 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,080 Officially, we haven't had those conversations. 1207 01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:40,160 They've probably Googled it all online, to be honest, themselves. 1208 01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:43,000 Do we all know what this is? 1209 01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:44,200 KIDS: No. 1210 01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:48,680 It looks like that source areola, aoila? Aioli. Aioli. 1211 01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:51,960 So, babies either come out of the women's... 1212 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:53,120 Belly or bum. 1213 01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:54,800 Private? Yes. 1214 01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:56,440 Vagina? No. 1215 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:57,720 That's where we wee from. 1216 01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:59,200 No, no, no, it does come out of the vagina. 1217 01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,320 What's that called where the babies come out from? 1218 01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:04,560 The vagina! 1219 01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:06,480 Mum, you have the experience, and it's right there. 1220 01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,400 It's right there. You should know this. 1221 01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:09,600 I'm going to have to learn more. 1222 01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:11,560 She's had six kids, but now she knows. 1223 01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:18,000 Question one, what is the correct name 1224 01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:21,160 for a girl's external private parts? 1225 01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:23,040 Vulva? 1226 01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:26,880 Our children are very much exposed to adult themes. 1227 01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:30,280 The first musical that Zion was in when he was eight years old, 1228 01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:34,560 he'd just turned eight, was Kinky Boots, which is about drag queens. 1229 01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:38,560 What is removed during a circumcision? 1230 01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:40,640 Foreskin! Five skin. 1231 01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:42,320 Foreskin. Five skin! 1232 01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:48,280 So, in the anatomy quiz, I think that they navigated it pretty well. 1233 01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:49,840 Wenus. 1234 01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,360 That's the elbow. 1235 01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,440 I keep my wenus right here. 1236 01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:57,680 Whoa. 1237 01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,520 So we want to go through what you know about the human body. 1238 01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,320 OK? It is a bit uncomfortable and awkward 1239 01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,400 speaking about reproductive health. 1240 01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,120 OK, tell me, where does the babies come from? 1241 01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:08,200 Show me. 1242 01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:09,720 They come from the belly. 1243 01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:11,560 And how do they come out? 1244 01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,040 I think it was good to test them out first. 1245 01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:17,960 Yes. To see what they knew. 1246 01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:19,920 What's the girl's private part? 1247 01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,320 Come on Mridula, try. Start with V. 1248 01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:24,560 Venus. 1249 01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,200 No. 1250 01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:28,920 That's a good try. 1251 01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,400 The female private part is called a vagina. 1252 01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,320 Vagina. Vagina. 1253 01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:34,440 KIDS: Vagina. 1254 01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,680 Yeah. I feel very awkward with that. 1255 01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,720 I was trembling saying the V word. 1256 01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,000 Alright, vulva. 1257 01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:46,480 Vulva or Volvo. 1258 01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,000 V-O-U-L... 1259 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,280 Not V-O-U, it's V-U-L-V-A, vulva. 1260 01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:54,320 Yeah. 1261 01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:55,800 It's not a car. 1262 01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,920 Areola. 1263 01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:03,280 What's an areola? 1264 01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,000 Hindus were the creators of Kama Sutra, 1265 01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:08,840 it's quite an oxymoron that we don't discuss it. 1266 01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,520 Deepak, are you now comfortable with the V word? 1267 01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:22,880 Yes. OK, because I just wanna know, 1268 01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,840 we could do a bit of a vagina chant if you want. 1269 01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,640 Come on, it's a team-building exercise. 1270 01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,680 PANEL: Vagina. 1271 01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,160 Ooh! I tell you what. 1272 01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,440 I reckon we all got a little bit of life education. 1273 01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:44,160 Can I ask the panel, thoughts? 1274 01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:48,000 How do you think that what sort of expectations going forward 1275 01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,880 do you teach yourself or do you say, go read a book? 1276 01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:51,920 Our society is quite split. 1277 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:55,000 There's a taboo based on our previous generation 1278 01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:58,400 and what, how we behave on such topics with our parents. 1279 01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:02,320 Even today, there will be parents in our sort of community 1280 01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:03,880 who probably point finger at us saying, 1281 01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,120 "How could you talk like that to your children?" 1282 01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:07,800 There will still be a taboo. 1283 01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:09,680 I expected the school sort of to do that, 1284 01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:12,000 the job that we sort of need to do. 1285 01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:15,240 It was also wrong. I guess we need to take responsibility. 1286 01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,440 So you guys have a cultural reason for perhaps 1287 01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,680 not being aware of the body parts. 1288 01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:23,200 Leanne and Mark, what's your excuse? 1289 01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:25,520 You know what? 1290 01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:27,520 With the picture where you were putting 1291 01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:29,560 the their names to it, my kids knew it all. 1292 01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:33,920 I knew nothing like I was seriously, I had my phone and I was Googling. 1293 01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,400 All I knew was the areola around your titties. 1294 01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:37,880 But I was... 1295 01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:40,120 They knew more than I did. 1296 01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:43,960 I would say not knowing after six kids that a baby 1297 01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,920 comes out of a vagina, it would give you a fail. 1298 01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,040 Let's talk about our stage parents. 1299 01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:53,840 We have a special book and it teaches the kids the anatomy. 1300 01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:57,000 And it says, "Emma has a vagina and a vulva." 1301 01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,160 And so it was all in the book. 1302 01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:02,160 Can I just ask our panel parents, who's sitting here 1303 01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,000 listening to this and thinking, you know what? 1304 01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,960 I need to go home, I need to have more of a conversation 1305 01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,200 with my kids about reproduction. 1306 01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:10,520 I think the sooner the better. 1307 01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:14,280 Like, normalise it, celebrate our bodies, like our bodies are amazing. 1308 01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:16,240 Like, my kids know when I have my period. 1309 01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,800 Like, this shouldn't be something that's weird or gross. 1310 01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:20,680 These are our normal, amazing bodies. 1311 01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,200 For us, it was more about we want them 1312 01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:25,960 to know the correct parts, the names, 1313 01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:31,120 where they are, because if something really bad was to happen, 1314 01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,240 we want them to be able to verbalise it. 1315 01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:35,200 Context is everything. 1316 01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:39,520 So sometimes these things are rude, but most of the time it's not rude, 1317 01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:41,480 especially if we're talking about it in the way 1318 01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,120 that it's supposed to be talked about. 1319 01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:44,640 And if our kids know that they can come to us 1320 01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:47,640 to have healthy and safe conversations, 1321 01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:49,920 they're going to make better decisions. 1322 01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,880 Children as young as four are ready to start learning some of 1323 01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:58,400 the details about where babies come from and how their bodies work. 1324 01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:01,400 So start early and have these conversations often 1325 01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,880 so they become a natural part of life. 1326 01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:05,840 Next... 1327 01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:07,560 That's not something that I want for you guys. 1328 01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:09,760 The life education continues. 1329 01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,120 Basically, just teaching them about the pill. 1330 01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:13,320 How to be safe. 1331 01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,000 Our influencer parents download. 1332 01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:19,520 They have an opportunity to choose how their life plays out. 1333 01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,280 And Kat never got that choice, it was forced upon her. 1334 01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:26,000 Then our panel parents decide which style 1335 01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:27,680 is their favourite of the night. 1336 01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:37,400 We've just watched three of our families squirm 1337 01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,880 through the birds and the bees chat. 1338 01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:44,160 Time to see how our other focus parents did in the same challenge. 1339 01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:50,680 We're going to see how much you know about where babies come from. 1340 01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:52,280 God. 1341 01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:58,880 Open communication in influencer parenting is just... 1342 01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:00,520 They can come to me about anything. 1343 01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:02,800 They can talk to me via text message. 1344 01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:05,240 They can even message me on Snapchat if they don't feel 1345 01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:08,280 comfortable talking to me face-to-face. 1346 01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:11,160 So whatever works for them, really. 1347 01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:13,680 Do you know where babies come from? 1348 01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:15,080 Yes. Yeah. 1349 01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:16,800 You do? Sperm. 1350 01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:17,880 Sperm. 1351 01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:21,720 So what happens with the sperm? 1352 01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:23,520 You told me they race. 1353 01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:29,680 They do race and then that winner is the baby. 1354 01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:32,040 The baby. Awesome. 1355 01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:35,960 The reason why I want you guys to know is because I want you 1356 01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:39,680 to be able to feel comfortable with your body. 1357 01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:41,760 And even though I was a teen mum, 1358 01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,440 that's not something that I want for you guys. 1359 01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:51,480 I think back to being a 17-year-old mum and I'm just mind-blown. 1360 01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:54,120 Like I don't know how I did it. 1361 01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:56,920 There was never really an opportunity for me 1362 01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:58,640 to go talk to my parents 1363 01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:01,000 because they were both super strict and very religious. 1364 01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:02,760 So it was just like out of the question, 1365 01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:04,360 like we don't talk about that. 1366 01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:07,880 So that's the best way to avoid that situation 1367 01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,040 is by knowing about your body and how it works. 1368 01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:17,640 Are you comfortable sharing with us, Kat, 1369 01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:21,240 like what you've told the girls about being a teen mum? 1370 01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:24,360 I just don't want them to be one. 1371 01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:28,560 Basically, just teach them about the pill, how to be safe. 1372 01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:29,920 I don't think I've had that conversation 1373 01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,640 with Deja as such, like in detail, 1374 01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:35,480 but when Tisha kind of hit 15, 16 1375 01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:38,720 just taught her about how to be safe. 1376 01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:42,400 Just because I wanted them to have a good life 1377 01:09:42,440 --> 01:09:45,600 and not saying that my life was bad, 1378 01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:50,920 but I didn't want them to be held back and I wanted them to go to uni, 1379 01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,320 get jobs, do all that sort of stuff. 1380 01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:58,240 We sort of just told them that they have an opportunity to choose 1381 01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:02,120 how their life plays out and Kat never got that choice. 1382 01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:03,800 It was forced upon her. 1383 01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:10,400 I was with a previous partner and it was a horrible relationship, 1384 01:10:10,440 --> 01:10:12,160 DV, like the works. 1385 01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,000 It was really bad. 1386 01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:16,800 You're actually being the person that you needed 1387 01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:18,400 when you were younger. 1388 01:10:18,440 --> 01:10:22,240 Yeah. And I just really resonated with your honest, 1389 01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:24,840 your very forthright approach with that 1390 01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:27,120 and I feel proud of you for doing that. 1391 01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:28,560 Thank you. 1392 01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:32,400 Hearing Kat tell her story about being a teen mum, 1393 01:10:32,440 --> 01:10:34,600 I do know what it's like to do things alone, 1394 01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:38,720 so I can't imagine as a younger person being able to do that. 1395 01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:43,120 Well done you for raising two beautiful girls. 1396 01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:51,200 Parents don't have these conversations. 1397 01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:52,240 Not nearly enough. 1398 01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:54,600 Research shows that we're not talking about body parts, 1399 01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,640 we're not talking about body safety, 1400 01:10:56,680 --> 01:11:00,480 we're not talking about procreation or reproduction nearly enough. 1401 01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:02,600 There does need to be a level of developmental appropriateness 1402 01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:03,640 to this. 1403 01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:05,920 We don't say the same things to our 16-year-old 1404 01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:07,960 that we say to our six-year-old. 1405 01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:12,400 Equipping our kids with knowledge is the best way to ensure respect, 1406 01:11:12,440 --> 01:11:15,640 consent and understanding when it comes to choices 1407 01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,600 about their bodies and reproductive health. 1408 01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:23,040 OK. Panel parents, when it comes to parenting, 1409 01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:25,800 everyone has something to say. 1410 01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:29,640 We want to see who you think has done best so far. 1411 01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:31,960 Time to put your votes down on paper. 1412 01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:39,280 I'm surprised I like the influencer family as much as I do. 1413 01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:41,120 Like, I really appreciate their approach. 1414 01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:43,800 It seems like they're quite well thought through 1415 01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,960 in terms of the big discussions that they're having. 1416 01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,680 I really love the spiritual parents. 1417 01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:52,360 What was really important to them they were doing with their children. 1418 01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:54,480 It wasn't separate to them, but the children were fully 1419 01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:56,520 included in what was most important to them. 1420 01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:58,840 Oh, hang on. We think the stage parenting style 1421 01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:00,600 is really invested in their kids. 1422 01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:02,600 They all have the same interests and they 1423 01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:04,880 all can do it together as a family. 1424 01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:07,480 It is time to collect your vote. 1425 01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:10,600 I think at this stage, I'm definitely 1426 01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,880 team parenting style because I really, 1427 01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:16,000 really love to see those children really, really happy and really, 1428 01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:18,240 really engaged in their family. 1429 01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:20,240 OK. Focus parents, 1430 01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:23,000 the panel parents have cast their votes. 1431 01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:26,160 Are you ready to find out what they're thinking so far? 1432 01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:34,000 The parents with the best parental guidance tonight are... 1433 01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:39,400 ..Jonathan and Kat, our influencer style. 1434 01:12:39,440 --> 01:12:41,560 You took the vote tonight. (APPLAUSE) 1435 01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:44,000 Well done. 1436 01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:45,400 How are you feeling? 1437 01:12:45,440 --> 01:12:46,480 Oh, surprised? 1438 01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:47,560 Yeah. Yeah. 1439 01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,480 Yeah. We thought everyone would hate us. 1440 01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:55,040 Social media, people can have a negative view of it, 1441 01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:58,560 but it was really refreshing that people actually like us. 1442 01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:04,880 Tomorrow night, we've got a brand new set of challenges. 1443 01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:07,720 I hope you're ready! And we'll be voting 1444 01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:10,720 for which of you will make the final. 1445 01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:16,960 VOICEOVER: Four new parenting styles go under the spotlight. 1446 01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,720 Welcome to our mad house. 1447 01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:21,320 Stage parents. Stage parents. 1448 01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:25,480 If you want to be a Hollywood actor, you need to watch what you eat. 1449 01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:27,520 Don't forget, neither of us eat carbs. 1450 01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:29,280 We all have amazing bodies, 1451 01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:30,880 regardless of how they might look on the outside. 1452 01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:33,200 But how will they all perform... 1453 01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:36,000 ALLY: The kids are home alone, and there's a fire. 1454 01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:38,600 ..facing their toughest test yet? 1455 01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:39,640 It smells like it's on fire. 1456 01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:41,400 The life and death skills... 1457 01:13:41,440 --> 01:13:42,440 Smoke emergency! 1458 01:13:42,480 --> 01:13:45,360 ..you need to teach your kids. 1459 01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:46,400 (COUGHING)