1 00:00:04,517 --> 00:00:07,103 [gunfire] 2 00:00:09,034 --> 00:00:11,758 [shouting in foreign language] 3 00:00:18,344 --> 00:00:20,896 [speaking in foreign language] 4 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,000 [yelling] 5 00:00:29,413 --> 00:00:30,724 [gunfire] 6 00:00:32,344 --> 00:00:33,896 [horn blaring] 7 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,551 [men shouting] 8 00:01:02,310 --> 00:01:04,482 Narrator: We know bin Laden as the terrorist, 9 00:01:04,586 --> 00:01:06,379 the world's most evil man. 10 00:01:06,482 --> 00:01:11,413 For those once closest to him his story is more complex. 11 00:01:11,517 --> 00:01:13,862 Obaidullah Baheer: I worshipped everything about bin Laden, 12 00:01:13,965 --> 00:01:17,689 how he had turned away from so much money, 13 00:01:17,793 --> 00:01:20,275 to stand by his religious responsibility 14 00:01:20,379 --> 00:01:23,034 towards our people, towards my people. 15 00:01:24,862 --> 00:01:26,655 Aimen Dean: I was appalled by what happened, 16 00:01:26,758 --> 00:01:28,310 it filled my heart with horror, 17 00:01:28,413 --> 00:01:35,965 we are going into the path of endless, perpetual bloodshed. 18 00:01:36,068 --> 00:01:38,241 Khaled Batarfi: I prayed secretly that he would die. 19 00:01:39,344 --> 00:01:42,827 I mourned the person I knew and loved 20 00:01:42,931 --> 00:01:46,137 but I didn't mourn the monster he turned out to be. 21 00:02:05,413 --> 00:02:07,034 Tracy Walder: I worked at the CIA 22 00:02:07,137 --> 00:02:10,034 on the operations side in the Counterterrorism Center 23 00:02:10,137 --> 00:02:13,931 before, during, and after September 11th. 24 00:02:19,137 --> 00:02:22,655 Afghanistan, even though yes, the Taliban were ruling it, 25 00:02:22,758 --> 00:02:24,655 it was sort of the wild, wild west, 26 00:02:24,758 --> 00:02:26,758 it was essentially, you know, a failed state, 27 00:02:26,862 --> 00:02:29,172 which made it sort of a breeding ground for Al-Qaeda 28 00:02:30,827 --> 00:02:33,862 [suspenseful music playing] 29 00:02:35,793 --> 00:02:38,586 [gunfire] 30 00:02:38,689 --> 00:02:40,103 Aimen Dean: It became clear to me 31 00:02:40,206 --> 00:02:43,379 that something was happening, Afghanistan is becoming more 32 00:02:43,482 --> 00:02:48,931 and more the training ground for many jihadists 33 00:02:49,034 --> 00:02:50,103 from all across the world, 34 00:02:50,206 --> 00:02:53,310 especially the Middle East, Europe, and North America. 35 00:02:58,413 --> 00:03:00,827 One of them was Abdulaziz al-Omari, 36 00:03:00,931 --> 00:03:03,344 one of the leaders of the hijackers in 9/11, 37 00:03:03,448 --> 00:03:05,000 and many others. 38 00:03:07,206 --> 00:03:09,448 This is where they were chosen for their talents, 39 00:03:09,551 --> 00:03:11,758 and they were diverted to other camps 40 00:03:11,862 --> 00:03:16,931 that are more or less secretive in order for them to be trained 41 00:03:17,034 --> 00:03:19,379 for what was coming, 42 00:03:19,482 --> 00:03:22,103 which was, of course, basically the 9/11 attacks. 43 00:03:27,137 --> 00:03:29,000 [inaudible speech] 44 00:03:29,103 --> 00:03:31,482 Translation: Men must send their children 45 00:03:31,586 --> 00:03:32,758 to the fields of battle 46 00:03:32,862 --> 00:03:35,000 so that they can acquire military training 47 00:03:35,103 --> 00:03:37,413 to defend and support the religion of Muhammad" 48 00:03:37,517 --> 00:03:39,896 [gunfire] 49 00:03:42,241 --> 00:03:44,172 Obaidullah Baheer: With bin Laden's influence, 50 00:03:44,275 --> 00:03:45,517 with his money, 51 00:03:45,620 --> 00:03:47,896 they end up creating this platform 52 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,310 which is the base of jihad around the world. 53 00:03:50,413 --> 00:03:51,827 And it did become that, 54 00:03:51,931 --> 00:03:54,551 international jihad sprung from there. 55 00:04:01,103 --> 00:04:04,724 Al-Qaeda start planning their next step 56 00:04:04,827 --> 00:04:09,793 which is to become a think tank, or a brainstorming organisation 57 00:04:09,896 --> 00:04:13,206 for how to bring the West to its knees. 58 00:04:13,310 --> 00:04:17,655 And then they start doing that from that point onwards 59 00:04:19,655 --> 00:04:21,724 Tracy Walder: A drone was flying over one of the camps 60 00:04:21,827 --> 00:04:23,275 in Afghanistan, 61 00:04:23,379 --> 00:04:27,172 and they noticed a very tall individual 62 00:04:27,275 --> 00:04:28,724 dressed all in white, 63 00:04:28,827 --> 00:04:32,620 surrounded by a security formation. 64 00:04:32,724 --> 00:04:35,275 That's really the closest I have ever come 65 00:04:35,379 --> 00:04:39,103 to seeing Osama bin Laden. 66 00:04:39,206 --> 00:04:44,448 Wearing white I think really is a symbol of a spiritual leader. 67 00:04:45,413 --> 00:04:47,655 I believe that bin Laden felt 68 00:04:47,758 --> 00:04:51,896 that he was a prophet here in the physical form. 69 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:56,068 I 100% believe that bin Laden thought he was a prophet. 70 00:04:57,689 --> 00:05:00,413 Narrator: As bin Laden's operations ramped up 71 00:05:00,517 --> 00:05:03,517 so did his level of threat against the United States. 72 00:05:05,551 --> 00:05:07,551 CNN Reporter: Mr bin Laden, can you tell us, 73 00:05:07,655 --> 00:05:10,275 is the jihad directed against the US government 74 00:05:10,379 --> 00:05:12,655 or the people of the United States? 75 00:05:32,448 --> 00:05:38,206 It was obvious that he is now ready to go public... 76 00:05:39,482 --> 00:05:41,862 ..and speak directly to the American people 77 00:05:41,965 --> 00:05:43,448 and threaten them. 78 00:05:49,448 --> 00:05:55,172 He knew something is coming and he wanted to be sure 79 00:05:55,275 --> 00:05:58,379 that he's taking responsibility for that thing that's coming. 80 00:05:59,241 --> 00:06:00,620 And that will help him 81 00:06:00,724 --> 00:06:03,034 because if he's now the enemy of the United States, 82 00:06:03,137 --> 00:06:04,206 he's on the same level 83 00:06:04,310 --> 00:06:06,206 of the United States in his mind, 84 00:06:06,310 --> 00:06:07,379 and that will help him 85 00:06:07,482 --> 00:06:09,586 to recruit more people in the Muslim world. 86 00:06:16,068 --> 00:06:18,758 "The United States has been occupying the lands of Islam 87 00:06:18,862 --> 00:06:20,793 "in the holiest of places, 88 00:06:20,896 --> 00:06:24,379 "the Arabian Peninsula, plundering its riches, 89 00:06:24,482 --> 00:06:26,896 "dictating to its rulers, 90 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,551 "humiliating its people, 91 00:06:28,655 --> 00:06:30,448 "and terrorising its neighbours. 92 00:06:33,103 --> 00:06:35,586 "The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies, 93 00:06:35,689 --> 00:06:37,551 "civilians and military, 94 00:06:37,655 --> 00:06:40,206 "is an individual duty for every Muslim 95 00:06:40,310 --> 00:06:44,310 "who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it. 96 00:06:49,103 --> 00:06:50,931 "American history does not distinguish 97 00:06:51,034 --> 00:06:55,172 "between civilians and military, not even women and children. 98 00:06:55,275 --> 00:06:56,620 "They're the ones who used the bombs 99 00:06:56,724 --> 00:06:58,379 "against Nagasaki and Hiroshima. 100 00:07:01,655 --> 00:07:03,068 "The Fatwa applies to all those 101 00:07:03,172 --> 00:07:06,448 "who assist and support in killing the sons of Muslims." 102 00:07:09,068 --> 00:07:11,413 [gunfire] 103 00:07:12,931 --> 00:07:14,448 Hamid Mir: I wrote some columns 104 00:07:14,551 --> 00:07:17,793 in which I raised questions about that edict, 105 00:07:17,896 --> 00:07:19,655 which is called 'Fatwa'. 106 00:07:19,758 --> 00:07:23,862 So, I said, how can Osama bin Laden or any other... 107 00:07:26,413 --> 00:07:29,551 ..Muslim justify the killings 108 00:07:29,655 --> 00:07:32,413 of innocent non-Muslims 109 00:07:32,517 --> 00:07:35,034 in the light of Islamic teachings? 110 00:07:48,758 --> 00:07:53,172 We travelled to Kandahar, that visit, 111 00:07:53,275 --> 00:07:55,689 that was terrifying... 112 00:07:55,793 --> 00:07:59,413 ..because I saw them putting a watermelon on the head, 113 00:07:59,517 --> 00:08:01,275 and Al-Qaeda fighters 114 00:08:01,379 --> 00:08:04,793 are practicing and shooting the watermelon. 115 00:08:04,896 --> 00:08:07,827 You see, it is terrifying. It is terrifying. 116 00:08:07,931 --> 00:08:11,068 I closed down my eyes many times. 117 00:08:11,172 --> 00:08:14,241 In my previous interview I asked him many tough questions 118 00:08:14,344 --> 00:08:15,482 very easily. 119 00:08:15,586 --> 00:08:17,517 This time, after watching all this, 120 00:08:17,620 --> 00:08:20,517 and realising they were very dangerous people, 121 00:08:20,620 --> 00:08:25,448 it was difficult for me to ask tough questions. 122 00:08:25,551 --> 00:08:30,724 I am asking him, "Mr bin Laden, can you justify your edict?" 123 00:08:30,827 --> 00:08:32,758 He was very hostile, you see. 124 00:08:32,862 --> 00:08:37,310 He was trying to justify the killing of every American, 125 00:08:37,413 --> 00:08:40,344 and he was using the name of Islam. 126 00:08:40,448 --> 00:08:44,379 And I was telling him that, "You cannot justify your views 127 00:08:44,482 --> 00:08:46,103 "in light of the teachings of Islam." 128 00:08:46,206 --> 00:08:49,413 But he was trying, again and again, to convince me, 129 00:08:49,517 --> 00:08:53,689 and I was not ready to agree. 130 00:08:53,793 --> 00:08:57,586 And he was taking breaks again and again. 131 00:08:57,689 --> 00:09:01,448 I realised he was also not fully equipped 132 00:09:01,551 --> 00:09:03,689 by the religious knowledge, 133 00:09:03,793 --> 00:09:05,965 and he was getting assistance 134 00:09:06,068 --> 00:09:08,103 from some other scholars. 135 00:09:12,517 --> 00:09:15,310 [car horn honking] 136 00:09:17,448 --> 00:09:19,482 [chatter] 137 00:09:19,586 --> 00:09:21,137 Man 1: He's alive. Man 2: He's alive! 138 00:09:21,241 --> 00:09:22,896 [chatter] 139 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,413 [distant siren blaring] 140 00:09:28,827 --> 00:09:31,620 [gunfire] 141 00:09:34,172 --> 00:09:35,482 Aimen Dean: I was in the prayer hall 142 00:09:35,586 --> 00:09:36,724 of Al Farouq camp 143 00:09:36,827 --> 00:09:40,724 when I heard the celebratory gunfire outside 144 00:09:40,827 --> 00:09:43,517 and people shouting, "Allahu Akbar!" 145 00:09:43,620 --> 00:09:46,827 And so, I inquired what was happening. 146 00:09:46,931 --> 00:09:50,241 And they said that, "Rejoice, everyone. 147 00:09:50,344 --> 00:09:53,448 "The largest CIA station in Africa 148 00:09:53,551 --> 00:09:55,896 "was raised to the ground, you know, 149 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,379 "with a big explosive device of the Mujahideen." 150 00:09:59,482 --> 00:10:01,413 [chatter] 151 00:10:01,517 --> 00:10:03,206 CIA station, wow! 152 00:10:03,310 --> 00:10:06,379 The CIA was attacked in Africa? 153 00:10:06,482 --> 00:10:08,793 Then the news of the casualties started to come, 154 00:10:08,896 --> 00:10:11,724 that 12 Americans were killed. 155 00:10:11,827 --> 00:10:15,482 And, well, hooray for that. That's how we reacted. 156 00:10:17,344 --> 00:10:21,827 220-plus Africans were killed too. 157 00:10:21,931 --> 00:10:24,482 Many of them were Kenyans and Somalis 158 00:10:24,586 --> 00:10:27,206 who were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. 159 00:10:27,310 --> 00:10:28,896 Man: Move out the way! 160 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,931 - 5,000 people were wounded, 161 00:10:31,034 --> 00:10:36,137 because the device was heavily laden with shrapnel 162 00:10:36,241 --> 00:10:38,896 which basically maximised the casualties. 163 00:10:42,896 --> 00:10:44,103 Ali Soufan: Many people in Washington, 164 00:10:44,206 --> 00:10:46,241 and especially in FBI headquarters, 165 00:10:46,344 --> 00:10:48,793 did not want to believe it was Osama bin Laden who did it 166 00:10:48,896 --> 00:10:50,758 because, guess what? 167 00:10:50,862 --> 00:10:52,896 They don't have any evidence that Osama bin Laden 168 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,413 ever conducted a terrorist attack like this before. 169 00:10:57,448 --> 00:11:00,793 The first official assignment involving Al-Qaeda 170 00:11:00,896 --> 00:11:02,000 and Osama bin Laden 171 00:11:02,103 --> 00:11:05,137 happened after the East Africa embassy bombings. 172 00:11:05,241 --> 00:11:08,000 I was one of the agents who were tasked 173 00:11:08,103 --> 00:11:13,034 to see if bin Laden was involved in that attack. 174 00:11:13,137 --> 00:11:17,103 Eventually, we found evidence on the ground in Nairobi 175 00:11:17,206 --> 00:11:19,862 coming from one of the suicide bombers 176 00:11:19,965 --> 00:11:22,758 who actually survived the attack 177 00:11:22,862 --> 00:11:25,862 that he belongs to Osama bin Laden's network, 178 00:11:25,965 --> 00:11:27,551 and he belongs to Al-Qaeda. 179 00:11:31,758 --> 00:11:34,275 [children chanting] 180 00:11:35,931 --> 00:11:37,103 Obaidullah Baheer: Till that point, 181 00:11:37,206 --> 00:11:39,172 everything was defensive, you know? 182 00:11:39,275 --> 00:11:44,068 Like, everything we were doing in Palestine, in Afghanistan, 183 00:11:44,172 --> 00:11:46,379 whatever was happening in Chechnya, 184 00:11:46,482 --> 00:11:49,620 all of that was reactionary jihad. 185 00:11:49,724 --> 00:11:52,931 It was reactionary resistance, right? 186 00:11:53,034 --> 00:11:57,310 For the first time, we had one Muslim leader or icon 187 00:11:57,413 --> 00:12:01,482 step up and take the game to the opponent. 188 00:12:01,586 --> 00:12:04,344 So, I remember at that time, we used to say 189 00:12:04,448 --> 00:12:07,724 he was the first person to throw a punch back. 190 00:12:09,068 --> 00:12:13,689 He swears to reign terror on the enemy. 191 00:12:13,793 --> 00:12:18,172 That's when bin Laden actually became a legend to us. 192 00:12:21,965 --> 00:12:23,000 - Changes were made today 193 00:12:23,103 --> 00:12:25,413 on the FBI's '10 most wanted' list 194 00:12:25,517 --> 00:12:28,172 Male Reporter: But before they can arrest him, 195 00:12:28,275 --> 00:12:29,275 they have to find him. 196 00:12:29,379 --> 00:12:32,172 The US continues to offer up to $5 million 197 00:12:32,275 --> 00:12:34,586 for information leading to the capture 198 00:12:34,689 --> 00:12:36,827 of America's most dangerous terrorist threat. 199 00:12:56,137 --> 00:12:58,379 Aimen Dean: I still remember, it was late August 200 00:12:58,482 --> 00:13:02,068 and Osama bin Laden already arrived in Al Farouq camp. 201 00:13:03,448 --> 00:13:05,517 But he left just before sunset. 202 00:13:09,793 --> 00:13:11,689 [inaudible chatter] 203 00:13:15,551 --> 00:13:18,068 [missiles launching] 204 00:13:21,482 --> 00:13:22,586 Aimen Dean: Many hours later, 205 00:13:22,689 --> 00:13:24,241 in the early hours of the morning 206 00:13:24,344 --> 00:13:28,068 I just saw many lights approaching 207 00:13:28,172 --> 00:13:30,137 and then diving into the camp. 208 00:13:31,344 --> 00:13:35,482 I think at least 20 missiles struck that day. 209 00:13:35,586 --> 00:13:38,827 Even the tent where I was, there was casualties. 210 00:13:39,862 --> 00:13:42,275 I felt extremely lucky to be alive. 211 00:13:43,689 --> 00:13:45,413 It really hit home - 212 00:13:45,517 --> 00:13:48,241 we are now going into the path 213 00:13:48,344 --> 00:13:52,034 of endless, perpetual bloodshed. 214 00:13:56,275 --> 00:13:58,965 [chatter] 215 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,551 Rahimullah Yusufzai: I received a phone call. 216 00:14:06,655 --> 00:14:09,862 I heard a voice saying, "I am Dr Zawahiri," 217 00:14:09,965 --> 00:14:12,413 and he said that Sheikh - 218 00:14:12,517 --> 00:14:16,034 they called Osama bin Laden 'Sheikh'. 219 00:14:16,137 --> 00:14:18,379 He said, "Sheikh is sitting with me. 220 00:14:18,482 --> 00:14:20,620 "I will talk to you about a message 221 00:14:20,724 --> 00:14:23,000 "which we want to be broadcast." 222 00:14:23,103 --> 00:14:28,068 So, then we had quick greetings... from Osama. 223 00:14:28,172 --> 00:14:32,448 And then Dr Zawahiri gave me the message 224 00:14:32,551 --> 00:14:36,344 saying that our camp was attacked by the Americans 225 00:14:36,448 --> 00:14:38,586 with cruise missiles, 226 00:14:38,689 --> 00:14:40,310 we survived. 227 00:14:40,413 --> 00:14:44,310 In fact, he said, "We were 500 kilometres away." 228 00:14:44,413 --> 00:14:47,655 He was making fun of American intelligence. 229 00:14:48,689 --> 00:14:51,620 And he said, "Now the war has begun 230 00:14:51,724 --> 00:14:54,310 "and we will reply in the same coin" 231 00:14:55,517 --> 00:14:56,896 [car horn honking] 232 00:14:59,068 --> 00:15:01,241 "We believe that the biggest thieves in the world 233 00:15:01,344 --> 00:15:02,862 "are Americans 234 00:15:02,965 --> 00:15:05,827 "and the biggest terrorists on earth are the Americans. 235 00:15:05,931 --> 00:15:07,724 "The only way for us to fend off this assault 236 00:15:07,827 --> 00:15:09,000 "is to use our armies. 237 00:15:10,034 --> 00:15:11,482 "We do not differentiate between 238 00:15:11,586 --> 00:15:14,034 "those dressed in military or civilian attire. 239 00:15:15,206 --> 00:15:17,275 "They are all the targets in this Fatwa." 240 00:15:20,068 --> 00:15:21,793 Narrator: Aimen Dean was so disturbed 241 00:15:21,896 --> 00:15:24,448 by bin Laden's targeting of civilians, 242 00:15:24,551 --> 00:15:26,310 he decided to leave Al-Qaeda. 243 00:15:27,827 --> 00:15:29,206 Aimen Dean: I remember when I left Afghanistan, 244 00:15:29,310 --> 00:15:31,137 I was heading to Qatar 245 00:15:31,241 --> 00:15:33,931 under the pretext of medical examination. 246 00:15:35,586 --> 00:15:38,413 I was detained by the Qatari intelligence services. 247 00:15:38,517 --> 00:15:43,758 That set in motion a series of events basically that, 248 00:15:43,862 --> 00:15:46,241 in the end, led to me being recruited 249 00:15:46,344 --> 00:15:50,241 by the British intelligence service. 250 00:15:53,827 --> 00:15:58,517 My role was to debrief the UK security agencies 251 00:15:58,620 --> 00:16:00,137 about Al-Qaeda, 252 00:16:00,241 --> 00:16:04,103 about their camps, their safe houses, 253 00:16:04,206 --> 00:16:05,379 their training locations, 254 00:16:05,482 --> 00:16:07,275 as well as their training manuals, 255 00:16:07,379 --> 00:16:10,827 including explosives, chemical weapons, poisons, 256 00:16:10,931 --> 00:16:12,620 biological weapons, all of these things. 257 00:16:12,724 --> 00:16:18,931 It's only few months into these debriefing sessions 258 00:16:19,034 --> 00:16:21,034 that it became clear 259 00:16:21,137 --> 00:16:25,000 that I could still return to Afghanistan 260 00:16:25,103 --> 00:16:28,172 with an excellent cover story. 261 00:16:28,275 --> 00:16:33,241 It means that I'm going there not as a member of Al-Qaeda 262 00:16:33,344 --> 00:16:35,896 but as a spy, as a double agent. 263 00:16:37,551 --> 00:16:40,241 Narrator: When Dean returned to Afghanistan, 264 00:16:40,344 --> 00:16:42,172 he found security around bin Laden 265 00:16:42,275 --> 00:16:43,586 had become much tighter. 266 00:16:45,689 --> 00:16:46,862 Aimen Dean: Osama bin Laden 267 00:16:46,965 --> 00:16:50,068 became more and more invisible to his followers. 268 00:16:50,172 --> 00:16:53,793 It became very difficult to always confirm his location. 269 00:16:55,551 --> 00:16:58,344 I've met many jihadist leaders in my life. 270 00:16:58,448 --> 00:17:02,793 There is always one unique thing about these leaders, 271 00:17:02,896 --> 00:17:06,862 is that they are determined to fight 272 00:17:06,965 --> 00:17:09,620 as much as they are determined to die... 273 00:17:09,724 --> 00:17:11,620 ..but what they always wish for 274 00:17:11,724 --> 00:17:15,689 is that they don't want their death to take place 275 00:17:15,793 --> 00:17:20,344 unless they have caused the enemy maximum damage. 276 00:17:23,137 --> 00:17:24,862 Narrator: Whilst bin Laden was less visible 277 00:17:24,965 --> 00:17:26,448 to his acolytes, 278 00:17:26,551 --> 00:17:28,586 he made sure the West did not forget him. 279 00:17:35,275 --> 00:17:36,551 - It was broad daylight today 280 00:17:36,655 --> 00:17:38,586 when the USS Cole began to tie up 281 00:17:38,689 --> 00:17:41,034 in the port city of Aden in Yemen. 282 00:17:41,137 --> 00:17:43,482 The small boat with two men in it 283 00:17:43,586 --> 00:17:45,689 was apparently not seen as a threat. 284 00:17:46,551 --> 00:17:47,551 Tonight, we know 285 00:17:47,655 --> 00:17:49,068 that five American soldiers were killed, 286 00:17:49,172 --> 00:17:52,724 and a dozen are unaccounted for, and 36 were wounded. 287 00:17:55,827 --> 00:18:00,275 Ali Soufan: When I arrived on the scene in October of 2000 288 00:18:00,379 --> 00:18:02,448 I was in charge of the investigation. 289 00:18:03,344 --> 00:18:05,172 I looked at the harbour. 290 00:18:05,275 --> 00:18:07,655 It was something that you will never forget. 291 00:18:09,517 --> 00:18:13,379 Many of the victims fell when they were waiting in line 292 00:18:13,482 --> 00:18:15,137 to go and eat in the cafeteria. 293 00:18:16,620 --> 00:18:20,620 The metal rolled like a carpet... 294 00:18:20,724 --> 00:18:25,172 ..and their bodies were entangled in the metal. 295 00:18:27,551 --> 00:18:28,965 The smell of death, 296 00:18:29,068 --> 00:18:34,862 it's something that will continue with you forever. 297 00:18:47,827 --> 00:18:50,000 Bin Laden did a video 298 00:18:50,103 --> 00:18:52,793 where he was wearing a Yemeni dagger. 299 00:18:52,896 --> 00:18:56,310 It was I think part of his son's wedding video. 300 00:18:56,413 --> 00:18:59,310 At the time, I kind of said, 301 00:18:59,413 --> 00:19:02,379 "Wow, we never saw him wearing a Yemeni dagger before." 302 00:19:20,241 --> 00:19:21,379 - He wanted to basically send a message 303 00:19:21,482 --> 00:19:23,379 against the might of the United States. 304 00:19:30,965 --> 00:19:34,000 [men singing in foreign language] 305 00:19:37,965 --> 00:19:38,965 Aimen Dean: The period 306 00:19:39,068 --> 00:19:41,034 in which the East Africa bombings happened, 307 00:19:41,137 --> 00:19:42,724 the USS Cole happened, 308 00:19:42,827 --> 00:19:45,758 the traffic into Afghanistan at the time, in and out, 309 00:19:45,862 --> 00:19:47,413 was quite significant. 310 00:19:47,517 --> 00:19:49,241 People were coming and going. 311 00:19:49,344 --> 00:19:53,862 I started to see the build-up of Al-Qaeda's jihadists 312 00:19:53,965 --> 00:19:57,137 coming to be trained to carry out attacks 313 00:19:57,241 --> 00:20:00,137 that would put terror and the fear of God, literally, 314 00:20:00,241 --> 00:20:01,689 into the hearts of the enemy. 315 00:20:46,586 --> 00:20:48,241 [car horn honking] 316 00:20:50,379 --> 00:20:52,689 Narrator: Following the bombing of the USS Cole, 317 00:20:52,793 --> 00:20:55,689 bin Laden and selected senior members of Al-Qaeda 318 00:20:55,793 --> 00:20:57,310 were refining their plans 319 00:20:57,413 --> 00:21:00,103 for an even more ambitious attack on America. 320 00:21:01,275 --> 00:21:02,758 Aimen Dean: Al-Qaeda kept the plot 321 00:21:02,862 --> 00:21:06,413 under an extreme veil of secrecy. 322 00:21:06,517 --> 00:21:07,551 Years after the event, 323 00:21:07,655 --> 00:21:11,655 when I met some senior members of Al-Qaeda later, they said 324 00:21:11,758 --> 00:21:16,241 that two thirds of Al-Qaeda Sharia council members 325 00:21:16,344 --> 00:21:17,689 never knew, you know, 326 00:21:17,793 --> 00:21:21,034 about the attacks until a day or two beforehand. 327 00:21:22,827 --> 00:21:25,551 One of the aspects of Islamic theology 328 00:21:25,655 --> 00:21:31,000 that I taught myself about was dream interpretation. 329 00:21:32,172 --> 00:21:33,827 Abdulaziz al-Omari, 330 00:21:33,931 --> 00:21:37,931 one of the leaders of the 9/11 hijackers, came to me 331 00:21:38,034 --> 00:21:40,275 and he said that he saw a dream. 332 00:21:42,310 --> 00:21:45,827 He saw himself riding a giant green bird. 333 00:21:45,931 --> 00:21:47,965 Just massive, the size of an aeroplane. 334 00:21:48,068 --> 00:21:50,862 And that he was riding that bird, 335 00:21:50,965 --> 00:21:53,931 flying towards a massive tower. 336 00:21:56,206 --> 00:21:58,896 He knew that this tower was his target, 337 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,931 and then he smashed into it. 338 00:22:03,448 --> 00:22:06,034 He said to me, "What does it mean?" 339 00:22:07,482 --> 00:22:13,896 I said "Your death is going to happen in a faraway land." 340 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,896 When Abu Hafs al-Masri heard the outline of the dream, 341 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,620 he said, "Did anyone tell you anything about any plot, 342 00:22:21,724 --> 00:22:22,724 "about any operation, 343 00:22:22,827 --> 00:22:24,310 "about any attack we're planning?" 344 00:22:24,413 --> 00:22:26,448 And he said, "No. No-one told me anything." 345 00:22:26,551 --> 00:22:29,310 So, he took him to Osama bin Laden... 346 00:22:29,413 --> 00:22:32,862 ..and told him to repeat the dream to him. 347 00:22:32,965 --> 00:22:35,517 So, Osama bin Laden said... 348 00:22:35,620 --> 00:22:39,206 "We have to include you in an operation 349 00:22:39,310 --> 00:22:41,068 "because if we include you, 350 00:22:41,172 --> 00:22:44,034 "then we hope that your dream will be fulfilled." 351 00:22:46,068 --> 00:22:48,586 I never told the intelligence services about it at the time 352 00:22:48,689 --> 00:22:50,655 because I thought, it's just a dream. 353 00:23:35,827 --> 00:23:37,344 Aimen Dean: The last time I ever met him, 354 00:23:37,448 --> 00:23:42,551 he appeared, as always, calm, collected, determined. 355 00:23:42,655 --> 00:23:46,344 I mean no-one detected any visible change, you know, 356 00:23:46,448 --> 00:23:50,310 that will tell you that something out of the ordinary, 357 00:23:50,413 --> 00:23:51,896 something extraordinary is about to happen. 358 00:24:08,586 --> 00:24:11,586 [ominous music playing] 359 00:24:14,793 --> 00:24:17,827 [traffic noise] 360 00:24:26,137 --> 00:24:28,448 - Just hours before the 9/11, 361 00:24:28,551 --> 00:24:32,310 My receptionist told me, "There's somebody from Kabul. 362 00:24:32,413 --> 00:24:34,724 "He is here to see you." 363 00:24:34,827 --> 00:24:36,931 They put him on the phone, and he said, 364 00:24:37,034 --> 00:24:40,000 "I'm here with the message from the Sheikh." 365 00:24:42,379 --> 00:24:45,137 Obaidullah Baheer: I was 11 years old... 366 00:24:45,241 --> 00:24:47,931 ..and I remember getting out of class 367 00:24:48,034 --> 00:24:50,724 and suddenly everyone's gathered in front of the TV. 368 00:24:51,896 --> 00:24:53,344 Aimen Dean: I was coming to London 369 00:24:53,448 --> 00:24:56,931 for debriefing with the UK intelligence services. 370 00:24:58,241 --> 00:24:59,931 I went to Oxford Street, 371 00:25:00,034 --> 00:25:03,620 I saw a group of people around Dixons. 372 00:25:03,724 --> 00:25:05,241 There were so many TVs, 373 00:25:05,344 --> 00:25:08,931 and I saw so many people congregating around the screens. 374 00:25:09,034 --> 00:25:12,103 Then I saw the World Trade Center. 375 00:25:12,206 --> 00:25:15,137 The first thing that came to my mind - "This is it." 376 00:25:15,241 --> 00:25:18,896 So, he was looking towards the TV set... 377 00:25:20,482 --> 00:25:22,793 ..and there was a breaking news. 378 00:25:22,896 --> 00:25:24,517 I said, "What happened?" 379 00:25:24,620 --> 00:25:27,758 He said, "There is a plane crash. Plane crash." 380 00:25:27,862 --> 00:25:29,413 I said, "This is just an accident. 381 00:25:29,517 --> 00:25:30,965 "Why are you dancing?" 382 00:25:31,068 --> 00:25:33,379 So, he gave me a piece of paper. 383 00:25:33,482 --> 00:25:34,793 There was a small statement written 384 00:25:34,896 --> 00:25:36,241 in Arabic language, 385 00:25:36,344 --> 00:25:40,655 and he was looking towards the TV again and again, 386 00:25:40,758 --> 00:25:41,689 again and again, 387 00:25:41,793 --> 00:25:44,310 and he was saying... [foreign language] 388 00:25:44,413 --> 00:25:46,758 "The second one, the second one, the second one." 389 00:26:05,137 --> 00:26:08,000 [crowd yelling] 390 00:26:08,103 --> 00:26:09,689 Obaidullah Baheer: I remember at that point, 391 00:26:09,793 --> 00:26:11,551 we were jumping up and down, 392 00:26:11,655 --> 00:26:13,172 we were throwing fists in the air. 393 00:26:20,620 --> 00:26:22,172 Woman: Holy shit! 394 00:26:23,172 --> 00:26:24,931 [indistinct chatter] 395 00:26:25,034 --> 00:26:30,551 Hamid Mir: When the second plane crashed in the Twin Towers, 396 00:26:30,655 --> 00:26:36,241 and the person started smiling, I collapsed on my chair. 397 00:26:36,344 --> 00:26:37,965 Khaled Batarfi: I saw the towers burning 398 00:26:38,068 --> 00:26:41,689 and at that time, I remember praying to God... 399 00:26:41,793 --> 00:26:46,000 ..please don't make Muslim mujahideen who did this, 400 00:26:46,103 --> 00:26:48,482 because it will turn bad 401 00:26:48,586 --> 00:26:51,482 for Islam and Muslims everywhere. 402 00:26:51,586 --> 00:26:53,620 [sirens] 403 00:26:53,724 --> 00:26:55,068 Hamid Mir: The statement said that, 404 00:26:55,172 --> 00:26:57,827 "I am not directly responsible 405 00:26:57,931 --> 00:27:00,827 "for what happened in America, but... 406 00:27:02,068 --> 00:27:03,344 .."I praise their action." 407 00:27:03,448 --> 00:27:06,137 That was the statement. 408 00:27:08,620 --> 00:27:11,000 Reporter: You can see the two towers. 409 00:27:11,103 --> 00:27:12,758 - [explosion] - A huge explosion, now! 410 00:27:12,862 --> 00:27:14,379 We better get out of the way! 411 00:27:15,689 --> 00:27:17,517 [woman screaming] 412 00:27:17,620 --> 00:27:18,931 Woman: Oh my god! 413 00:27:19,931 --> 00:27:21,206 Woman 2: Oh no! 414 00:27:21,310 --> 00:27:23,689 [crying and shrieking] 415 00:27:26,551 --> 00:27:28,896 Khaled Batarfi: I prayed that Al-Qaeda 416 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,586 has nothing to do with it, 417 00:27:30,689 --> 00:27:33,827 but my prayers were not answered. 418 00:27:35,344 --> 00:27:36,896 From that point on, 419 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,448 I prayed secretly that he would die. 420 00:27:40,862 --> 00:27:43,896 [sinister music playing] 421 00:27:55,137 --> 00:27:58,482 Obaidullah Baheer: After 9/11 bin Laden because our idol, 422 00:27:58,586 --> 00:27:59,827 he was the hero. 423 00:28:01,413 --> 00:28:05,413 If you ever asked us how the death of countless civilians 424 00:28:05,517 --> 00:28:07,827 in New York City made sense, 425 00:28:07,931 --> 00:28:10,965 we would be like, "Well, does the death of Palestinian people 426 00:28:11,068 --> 00:28:13,827 "make sense to you?" 427 00:28:13,931 --> 00:28:16,655 Now, we realised that an eye for an eye 428 00:28:16,758 --> 00:28:18,689 would leave us with a blind world. 429 00:28:26,103 --> 00:28:27,655 - Tonight, the United States of America 430 00:28:27,758 --> 00:28:30,827 makes the following demands on the Taliban. 431 00:28:32,137 --> 00:28:33,965 Deliver to United States authorities 432 00:28:34,068 --> 00:28:37,517 all the leaders of Al-Qaeda who hide in your land. 433 00:28:38,862 --> 00:28:40,620 They will hand over the terrorists... 434 00:28:42,103 --> 00:28:43,517 ..or they will share in their fate. 435 00:28:51,482 --> 00:28:52,655 [bird cawing] 436 00:29:36,827 --> 00:29:38,655 Translation: What America's living through today 437 00:29:38,758 --> 00:29:40,896 is nothing compared to what we have been living through 438 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,482 for decades. 439 00:29:42,586 --> 00:29:44,896 Our nation has been living for more than 80 years 440 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,586 with this kind of oppression. 441 00:29:47,689 --> 00:29:49,724 But now God blessed a group of Muslims 442 00:29:49,827 --> 00:29:52,034 and opened His doors before them, 443 00:29:52,137 --> 00:29:53,965 so they were able to destroy America... 444 00:29:55,551 --> 00:29:59,586 ..and I hope God will exalt them and welcome them in His heaven. 445 00:30:04,482 --> 00:30:07,000 [suspense music playing] 446 00:30:20,620 --> 00:30:23,206 Hamid Mir: Americans were trying their level best 447 00:30:23,310 --> 00:30:24,827 to hunt him down. 448 00:30:26,034 --> 00:30:27,793 They were bombing Kabul very aggressively. 449 00:30:27,896 --> 00:30:30,344 [distant explosions] 450 00:30:35,310 --> 00:30:37,655 Narrator: Hamid Mir is taken to meet Osama bin Laden 451 00:30:37,758 --> 00:30:40,206 for the third time. 452 00:30:40,310 --> 00:30:43,482 Hamid Mir: It was early morning and I was blindfolded. 453 00:30:46,310 --> 00:30:50,137 His son, Abdul Rahman, had a digital camera 454 00:30:50,241 --> 00:30:53,137 and he was acting as my cameraman. 455 00:30:54,103 --> 00:30:56,482 I started my interview. 456 00:30:56,586 --> 00:31:00,793 He was full of hatred against President George W Bush. 457 00:31:00,896 --> 00:31:04,448 At one moment, he said that if the Americans 458 00:31:04,551 --> 00:31:06,620 will use chemical or nuclear weapons 459 00:31:06,724 --> 00:31:08,068 against Afghanistan, 460 00:31:08,172 --> 00:31:12,034 we can respond back in the same manner. 461 00:31:12,137 --> 00:31:13,758 So, I asked him a follow-up question 462 00:31:13,862 --> 00:31:16,344 and he said that, he claimed that, 463 00:31:16,448 --> 00:31:19,379 "Yes, I have these kind of weapons as a deterrence." 464 00:31:21,241 --> 00:31:23,931 And then somebody rushed in and he said, 465 00:31:24,034 --> 00:31:27,172 "We need to leave this place as soon as possible." 466 00:31:27,275 --> 00:31:29,103 So, there was panic in the room. 467 00:31:30,586 --> 00:31:35,275 They left from the back door, I left from the front door. 468 00:31:38,482 --> 00:31:41,275 After my last interview with bin Laden... 469 00:31:42,517 --> 00:31:44,827 ..I lost contact with him. 470 00:31:44,931 --> 00:31:47,068 I tried to meet him again, 471 00:31:47,172 --> 00:31:51,206 but I never got any information about his whereabouts. 472 00:31:56,827 --> 00:31:59,034 - We had intelligence 473 00:31:59,137 --> 00:32:04,137 that bin Laden was in the mountains of Tora Bora... 474 00:32:04,241 --> 00:32:08,448 ..which is a very difficult area to get to. 475 00:32:08,551 --> 00:32:11,551 It's very, very mountainous. 476 00:32:11,655 --> 00:32:14,482 I felt like, "September 11th happened, 477 00:32:14,586 --> 00:32:16,862 "this is my way that I can contribute 478 00:32:16,965 --> 00:32:19,517 "to the thousands of lives that were lost 479 00:32:19,620 --> 00:32:22,724 "and that I can kill the person that did this." 480 00:32:25,344 --> 00:32:26,448 Reporter: At Tora Bora today 481 00:32:26,551 --> 00:32:30,103 US fighter planes and B52s dropped their payloads 482 00:32:30,206 --> 00:32:33,758 as part of their continuing quest to destroy Al-Qaeda. 483 00:32:33,862 --> 00:32:35,758 [distant explosions] 484 00:32:35,862 --> 00:32:38,586 [indistinct radio chatter] 485 00:32:39,758 --> 00:32:41,379 [explosion] 486 00:32:41,482 --> 00:32:43,344 [indistinct radio chatter] 487 00:32:43,448 --> 00:32:45,655 Tracey Walder: In those mountain regions, 488 00:32:45,758 --> 00:32:49,793 it's very difficult to capture or kill one person 489 00:32:49,896 --> 00:32:52,482 with only bombs. 490 00:32:54,551 --> 00:32:57,000 [explosion] 491 00:32:57,103 --> 00:32:58,931 Unfortunately, there was a decision 492 00:32:59,034 --> 00:33:02,862 that was made that was clearly way above my pay grade 493 00:33:02,965 --> 00:33:06,172 to not send ground troops into that area. 494 00:33:06,275 --> 00:33:07,172 [men shouting] 495 00:33:07,275 --> 00:33:10,379 Obaidullah Baheer: It was a fight between religions, 496 00:33:10,482 --> 00:33:12,931 it was a fight between right, wrong - 497 00:33:13,034 --> 00:33:15,586 it was that black and white for us back then. 498 00:33:17,586 --> 00:33:20,793 My grandfather sent Hezb-e Islami fighters 499 00:33:20,896 --> 00:33:24,068 to extract bin Laden from Tora Bora 500 00:33:24,172 --> 00:33:25,586 and probably saved his life. 501 00:33:27,103 --> 00:33:29,137 Tracy Walder: We believe that bin Laden 502 00:33:29,241 --> 00:33:33,310 went into the Afghan-Pak border region. 503 00:33:33,413 --> 00:33:35,034 We sort of felt like we had this moment, 504 00:33:35,137 --> 00:33:39,586 that we could vindicate what had been done to us. 505 00:33:41,241 --> 00:33:45,241 Then to see that slip away, that was very frustrating. 506 00:33:46,827 --> 00:33:48,000 We lost him. 507 00:33:52,965 --> 00:33:55,448 Narrator: Bin Laden and his family are fugitives. 508 00:33:59,551 --> 00:34:01,896 Hunted by the world's most sophisticated 509 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,551 and technologically-advanced spy agencies. 510 00:34:04,655 --> 00:34:06,275 [computer trilling] 511 00:34:08,241 --> 00:34:11,241 [tense rhythmic music playing] 512 00:34:16,137 --> 00:34:18,206 Tracy Walder: I personally did not know where he was, 513 00:34:18,310 --> 00:34:20,793 but a lot of times we would sit around and talk about it. 514 00:34:20,896 --> 00:34:22,793 I know that seems like a strange conversation 515 00:34:22,896 --> 00:34:26,379 but sometimes it was just something we did. 516 00:34:40,206 --> 00:34:42,862 I visited Afghanistan, I was covering elections there 517 00:34:42,965 --> 00:34:46,551 and I came to know he is hiding in Kunar mountains. 518 00:34:46,655 --> 00:34:50,896 So, I went to Kunar, and when I reached there... 519 00:34:51,689 --> 00:34:53,000 ..he'd left the place. 520 00:35:03,206 --> 00:35:07,965 - How it is possible that when entire US intelligence... 521 00:35:08,862 --> 00:35:10,482 ..and other intelligence agencies 522 00:35:10,586 --> 00:35:12,793 are trying to find out Osama bin Laden, 523 00:35:12,896 --> 00:35:15,241 nobody is able to find Osama bin Laden. 524 00:35:21,482 --> 00:35:23,034 Narrator: The intelligence agencies 525 00:35:23,137 --> 00:35:24,379 would eventually discover 526 00:35:24,482 --> 00:35:26,827 that, aided by old friends and associates, 527 00:35:26,931 --> 00:35:28,793 bin Laden had crossed the Afghan border 528 00:35:28,896 --> 00:35:30,965 into Pakistan... 529 00:35:31,068 --> 00:35:33,034 ..moving from safe house to safe house. 530 00:35:36,551 --> 00:35:38,586 Moving in Pakistan 531 00:35:38,689 --> 00:35:43,517 was not some difficult thing for Osama bin Laden. 532 00:35:43,620 --> 00:35:46,586 He changed his appearance, he was moving freely. 533 00:35:47,586 --> 00:35:49,137 He used to travel in the vans 534 00:35:49,241 --> 00:35:53,655 he would always used to move along his family. 535 00:35:53,758 --> 00:35:56,413 In Pakistan whenever you are moving with the women 536 00:35:56,517 --> 00:35:57,689 at security check points, 537 00:35:57,793 --> 00:35:59,448 they are lenient about you. 538 00:36:00,413 --> 00:36:01,413 One or two times, 539 00:36:01,517 --> 00:36:03,586 he was also stopped by the security people, 540 00:36:03,689 --> 00:36:06,034 but he was having a different appearance 541 00:36:06,137 --> 00:36:08,103 and he was allowed to go. 542 00:36:11,379 --> 00:36:15,103 Narrator: In 2005, Osama bin Laden and his family 543 00:36:15,206 --> 00:36:17,586 moved to a city in eastern Pakistan. 544 00:36:19,379 --> 00:36:21,000 Azaz Syed: Most of the people 545 00:36:21,103 --> 00:36:24,793 who would live around the compound of Osama bin Laden, 546 00:36:24,896 --> 00:36:26,689 they are middle-class people. 547 00:36:27,620 --> 00:36:30,000 This was a very unusual house. 548 00:36:31,655 --> 00:36:34,172 14-foot-high walls 549 00:36:34,275 --> 00:36:37,379 with the barbed wires on the top of the walls. 550 00:36:38,758 --> 00:36:40,724 The balconies were also covered. 551 00:36:41,758 --> 00:36:43,689 So, there was no apparent window 552 00:36:43,793 --> 00:36:44,896 which anybody could use 553 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,551 to see inside who's living there. 554 00:36:50,724 --> 00:36:53,000 Narrator: This compound became a settled home 555 00:36:53,103 --> 00:36:55,827 for bin Laden, his wives and children. 556 00:36:57,344 --> 00:36:58,344 Ali Soufan: We always knew 557 00:36:58,448 --> 00:37:00,137 he was most probably hiding in Pakistan, 558 00:37:00,241 --> 00:37:05,620 but my God, I never thought he will be just over the fence 559 00:37:05,724 --> 00:37:08,517 of the biggest military academy in the country. 560 00:37:08,620 --> 00:37:11,655 That was very interesting on so many different levels. 561 00:37:11,758 --> 00:37:14,517 [birds twittering] 562 00:37:17,482 --> 00:37:20,172 [girl laughing] 563 00:37:21,172 --> 00:37:24,068 [speaking foreign language] 564 00:37:24,172 --> 00:37:26,827 [inaudible chatter] 565 00:37:26,931 --> 00:37:30,413 [serene music playing] 566 00:37:30,517 --> 00:37:32,103 Azaz Syed: The children would play in the compound. 567 00:37:32,206 --> 00:37:36,103 They were having lambs, they were having rabbits. 568 00:37:36,206 --> 00:37:38,206 They were having pets over there. 569 00:37:38,310 --> 00:37:40,344 [poultry chirping and squawking] 570 00:37:42,758 --> 00:37:44,241 [playful screams] 571 00:37:45,448 --> 00:37:47,482 [playful screams and chatter] 572 00:37:47,586 --> 00:37:50,206 [serene music continues] 573 00:37:54,482 --> 00:37:56,379 [firearm discharges] 574 00:38:00,551 --> 00:38:02,448 He would play with the small children, 575 00:38:02,551 --> 00:38:03,758 but most of the time 576 00:38:03,862 --> 00:38:07,034 he would spend watching television. 577 00:38:07,137 --> 00:38:11,000 [TV playing in foreign language] 578 00:38:11,103 --> 00:38:13,034 Narrator: During his 10 years in hiding 579 00:38:13,137 --> 00:38:15,448 bin Laden closely followed world events. 580 00:38:15,551 --> 00:38:18,103 [crowds chanting] 581 00:38:26,413 --> 00:38:28,068 "What we are witnessing these days 582 00:38:28,172 --> 00:38:31,241 "of consecutive revolutions is a grand and glorious event. 583 00:38:31,344 --> 00:38:35,103 "The exit of Muslims from being under the control of the USA. 584 00:38:36,413 --> 00:38:38,172 "And the Americans worry about that, 585 00:38:38,275 --> 00:38:39,379 "which is great." 586 00:38:39,482 --> 00:38:41,517 [crowds chattering and singing] 587 00:38:41,620 --> 00:38:44,275 [crowds yelling] 588 00:38:46,344 --> 00:38:48,413 [crowds chanting] 589 00:38:48,517 --> 00:38:49,551 [yelling] 590 00:38:50,137 --> 00:38:51,965 [gunfire] 591 00:38:52,068 --> 00:38:54,275 Narrator: Bin Laden communicated to his followers 592 00:38:54,379 --> 00:38:55,862 via videos 593 00:38:55,965 --> 00:38:57,517 delivered by a trusted courier. 594 00:38:57,620 --> 00:39:00,413 [bin Laden speaking Arabic] 595 00:39:00,517 --> 00:39:02,344 Translation: We fight because we are free men 596 00:39:02,448 --> 00:39:04,862 who don't sleep under repression. 597 00:39:04,965 --> 00:39:06,896 Just as you lay waste to our nation 598 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,551 so shall we lay waste to yours. 599 00:39:10,655 --> 00:39:12,000 Tracy Walder: His followers, I guess, 600 00:39:12,103 --> 00:39:15,758 were satisfied with sort of, you know, a TV appearance 601 00:39:15,862 --> 00:39:19,379 once every six months or so. 602 00:39:19,482 --> 00:39:21,827 And as long as they had proof of life, 603 00:39:21,931 --> 00:39:26,310 I think they were satisfied in continuing his mission still. 604 00:39:26,413 --> 00:39:29,034 [electronic trilling] 605 00:39:29,137 --> 00:39:32,137 [suspenseful music playing] 606 00:39:34,620 --> 00:39:38,172 Tracy Walder: The breakthrough was the courier. 607 00:39:38,275 --> 00:39:43,344 We had information that led us to one of his couriers. 608 00:39:43,448 --> 00:39:45,965 The courier was travelling to a house 609 00:39:46,068 --> 00:39:48,620 and that house looked very suspicious and strange 610 00:39:48,724 --> 00:39:49,724 for the area. 611 00:39:49,827 --> 00:39:51,517 You know, we would have no way of knowing 612 00:39:51,620 --> 00:39:52,620 that he was actually there. 613 00:39:52,724 --> 00:39:56,034 And so, I think, you know, a lot of it was hypothesis. 614 00:39:56,137 --> 00:39:57,655 They took a huge risk. 615 00:39:59,482 --> 00:40:01,413 - I'm Robert J O'Neil, 616 00:40:01,517 --> 00:40:04,310 I was a Navy SEAL for almost 17 years. 617 00:40:05,793 --> 00:40:07,172 They brought us into a room, 618 00:40:07,275 --> 00:40:09,517 and he said, "Alright, guys, the reason you're here 619 00:40:09,620 --> 00:40:11,000 "is this is as close as we've ever been 620 00:40:11,103 --> 00:40:12,344 "to Osama bin Laden." 621 00:40:15,862 --> 00:40:17,344 We went to the helicopters, 622 00:40:17,448 --> 00:40:19,551 and we did our last thing, you know, pee in the bush, 623 00:40:19,655 --> 00:40:21,931 have a smoke, do whatever you do, 624 00:40:22,034 --> 00:40:24,689 and instead of handshakes, we gave each other hugs. 625 00:40:24,793 --> 00:40:25,724 And it's kinda like, 626 00:40:25,827 --> 00:40:27,931 "Alright, see you on the ground, have a good fight." 627 00:40:31,275 --> 00:40:33,827 So, at 80 minutes in, we bank to the south 628 00:40:33,931 --> 00:40:36,034 and that's when the aircrew guys open the door 629 00:40:36,137 --> 00:40:37,448 and you look out the window. 630 00:40:40,586 --> 00:40:41,758 There's already a gunfight, 631 00:40:41,862 --> 00:40:43,586 there's a couple bombs going off. 632 00:40:43,689 --> 00:40:45,689 I look to the left, there's bin Laden's house. 633 00:40:45,793 --> 00:40:47,793 We went in through the bottom 634 00:40:47,896 --> 00:40:50,241 and there's a long hallway with doors on each side. 635 00:40:50,344 --> 00:40:53,241 On that stairwell was Khalid bin Laden, 636 00:40:53,344 --> 00:40:54,793 he's like 20 years old. 637 00:40:54,896 --> 00:40:57,103 That's one of Osama bin Laden's sons. 638 00:40:57,206 --> 00:40:59,862 The guy in front out-manoeuvred him, shot him. 639 00:40:59,965 --> 00:41:02,862 Killed Khalid bin Laden and we went up those stairs. 640 00:41:02,965 --> 00:41:05,655 Now, we were on the second floor, 641 00:41:05,758 --> 00:41:07,586 there's one more stairwell to go. 642 00:41:07,689 --> 00:41:10,758 We went up the stairs, and there's Osama bin Laden 643 00:41:10,862 --> 00:41:13,103 standing there three feet away. 644 00:41:13,206 --> 00:41:15,068 I remember thinking, "He's taller than I thought." 645 00:41:15,172 --> 00:41:17,655 He was taller than me. He's skinnier than I thought. 646 00:41:17,758 --> 00:41:19,655 His wife Amal is right in front of him. 647 00:41:19,758 --> 00:41:22,103 He's got his hands on her shoulders 648 00:41:22,206 --> 00:41:25,344 and I don't know what he's doing but he's not surrendering 649 00:41:25,448 --> 00:41:27,862 and I'm assuming he is a suicide bomber. 650 00:41:31,310 --> 00:41:33,517 "I have sworn to live in freedom. 651 00:41:35,137 --> 00:41:38,517 "Even if I find bitter the taste of death... 652 00:41:38,620 --> 00:41:41,862 .."I don't want to die humiliated or deceived." 653 00:41:45,482 --> 00:41:47,344 He has a second to convince me not to kill him. 654 00:41:47,448 --> 00:41:48,379 He didn't do it. 655 00:41:48,482 --> 00:41:49,758 I treated him as a suicide bomber, 656 00:41:49,862 --> 00:41:51,034 and I shot him in the face twice. 657 00:41:51,137 --> 00:41:52,206 He fell down and I shot him again. 658 00:41:58,103 --> 00:42:00,551 - Tonight, I can report to the American people 659 00:42:00,655 --> 00:42:03,000 that the United States has conducted an operation 660 00:42:03,103 --> 00:42:07,448 that killed Osama bin Laden, the leader of Al-Qaeda... 661 00:42:07,551 --> 00:42:09,482 ..and a terrorist who's responsible for the murder 662 00:42:09,586 --> 00:42:13,689 of thousands of innocent men, women, and children. 663 00:42:16,517 --> 00:42:18,689 I didn't feel ecstatic. 664 00:42:19,655 --> 00:42:21,103 I didn't feel... 665 00:42:22,793 --> 00:42:25,344 ..excited. I just felt like... 666 00:42:26,344 --> 00:42:29,724 .."OK, that's... he's done." 667 00:42:29,827 --> 00:42:32,275 Just because Osama bin Laden is dead, 668 00:42:32,379 --> 00:42:35,137 it does not mean that it's the end. 669 00:42:35,241 --> 00:42:37,965 He might be more valuable for the organisation 670 00:42:38,068 --> 00:42:39,448 dead than alive. 671 00:42:39,551 --> 00:42:42,517 [crowd shouting] 672 00:43:19,344 --> 00:43:23,000 My first reaction was relief. 673 00:43:23,965 --> 00:43:28,344 It was an absolute sense of relief. 674 00:43:28,448 --> 00:43:31,310 I did not feel the sense of either happiness, 675 00:43:31,413 --> 00:43:32,482 or gloating. 676 00:43:32,586 --> 00:43:34,551 He was always warm and kind to me. 677 00:43:34,655 --> 00:43:36,586 It was just a sense of relief for everyone 678 00:43:36,689 --> 00:43:42,689 that this man's misguided quest is over. 679 00:43:44,275 --> 00:43:47,275 [majestic music playing] 680 00:43:58,862 --> 00:44:01,000 Female Reporter: Taliban forces entered the heart 681 00:44:01,103 --> 00:44:02,586 of the Afghan capital, Kabul, today, 682 00:44:02,689 --> 00:44:04,620 the culmination of a rapid advance 683 00:44:04,724 --> 00:44:06,551 and retaking of control 684 00:44:06,655 --> 00:44:08,275 almost exactly two decades 685 00:44:08,379 --> 00:44:10,413 after they were ousted from power. 686 00:44:11,551 --> 00:44:14,068 [crowds yelling] 687 00:44:16,655 --> 00:44:18,827 Obaidullah Baheer: The US lost this war 688 00:44:18,931 --> 00:44:22,034 because democracy and their liberating mission 689 00:44:22,137 --> 00:44:24,551 ended up becoming one and the same thing. 690 00:44:24,655 --> 00:44:26,586 A liberating mission that meant 691 00:44:26,689 --> 00:44:28,620 that they didn't care for our culture, 692 00:44:28,724 --> 00:44:30,689 for our history, for our religion. 693 00:44:30,793 --> 00:44:33,103 That they were here to replace it 694 00:44:33,206 --> 00:44:37,482 and that reinforced everything 695 00:44:37,586 --> 00:44:39,655 that bin Laden had talked about. 696 00:44:39,758 --> 00:44:42,241 [chatter] 697 00:44:42,344 --> 00:44:45,344 Ali Soufan: He is the son of a billionaire 698 00:44:45,448 --> 00:44:47,137 who left everything behind... 699 00:44:48,068 --> 00:44:51,000 ..in order to declare war... 700 00:44:51,103 --> 00:44:55,068 ..that can bring the glory of Islam back. 701 00:44:55,172 --> 00:44:59,724 That's how they view him, that's how they look upon him. 702 00:45:01,517 --> 00:45:05,310 That's how Osama bin Laden will probably, would like... 703 00:45:06,172 --> 00:45:07,275 ..to be remembered. 704 00:45:07,379 --> 00:45:09,137 The only problem with that, 705 00:45:09,241 --> 00:45:12,758 that you have thousands and thousands of people who died 706 00:45:12,862 --> 00:45:14,413 in the process. 707 00:45:14,517 --> 00:45:15,793 Innocent people. 708 00:45:16,896 --> 00:45:19,103 Muslims and non-Muslims. 709 00:45:19,206 --> 00:45:22,034 People that had nothing to do with his wars. 710 00:45:22,137 --> 00:45:23,793 That's not leadership. 711 00:45:23,896 --> 00:45:27,344 So, towards the end I think it's one of these things 712 00:45:27,448 --> 00:45:29,931 where the passion of the heart 713 00:45:30,034 --> 00:45:31,931 blew out the candle of the brain. 714 00:45:35,931 --> 00:45:39,103 Hamid Mir: Now, 20 years passed since 9/11, 715 00:45:39,206 --> 00:45:43,689 and about 10 years passed since his death... 716 00:45:43,793 --> 00:45:46,689 ..but the world is still not very safe. 717 00:45:46,793 --> 00:45:51,172 And I fear that maybe not me 718 00:45:51,275 --> 00:45:53,137 but some other young journalist, 719 00:45:53,241 --> 00:45:54,931 will see another bin Laden 720 00:45:55,034 --> 00:45:57,172 because the situation in Afghanistan, 721 00:45:57,275 --> 00:46:01,448 the situation in Palestine, the situation in Kashmir, 722 00:46:01,551 --> 00:46:06,206 and in other parts of the world actually created bin Laden. 723 00:46:06,310 --> 00:46:10,034 I fear we may see more bin Ladens. 724 00:46:10,137 --> 00:46:13,137 Captioned by Ai-Media ai-media.tv 725 00:46:14,724 --> 00:46:17,758 [ominous theme music playing]