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"Critters".

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They bite.

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People kept trashing "Critters"

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for being a bad cheap
imitation of "Gremlins".

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They're not the same movie.

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No, the critters are fucking
gonna eat you alive, man.

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It's attitude with an
emphasis on the drama.

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I didn't even do nothing.

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Boy, you shot her
with a slingshot.

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It's really just the way
Stephen Herek approached it,

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and took it seriously.

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We want the Krites.

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Oh really?

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Who are they, some new team?

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It acts like a studio movie,

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and it's a $2 million
little independent.

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I love the little
country family,

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completely innocent
of everything.

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And boy, Dee Wallace
gives it her best.

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Get out of my house!

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We had so much
fun on "Critters".

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I loved working
with Stephen Herek.

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He was so easy to work with.

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Always knew what he wanted.

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And it was a tough shoot,

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because we worked mostly nights.

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The creature
designs in "Critters"

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I remember thinking were
really funny when I was a kid.

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Little creepy yet
adorable balls of spikiness,

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and they have really
terrifying eyes and teeth,

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but that's what
made them so fun.

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The Chiodo brothers of
"Killer Klowns from Outer Space"

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fame created the
Krites in "Critters".

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With "Critters" there is an
element where you are scared

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because you don't know
what's gonna happen.

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They just seem in
it to destroy things

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and kill people.

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They didn't have the
big critter finished.

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That's why in that one
scene, you only see his eyes

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coming up through the window.

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It was hard to stay in the fear

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and everything that we had to do

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because it was pretty funny.

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We would be ready to do
this hysterical scene,

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and Stephen would go
okay, roll them in.

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Just roll the little balls

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across the set.

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I did not have anything to do
with the Krite and E.T. scene.

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Nothing.

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And the fans that
are really fans

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that are really knowledgeable,

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they just get off on all
that stuff, and it's great.

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I think it's wonderful
that directors

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throw in all those
cross references.

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A lot of people
make horror movies

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just because it's the easiest,

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or what they think
will be the easiest

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stepping stone to a career
or a paycheck or something.

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But there's a lot of love
and craft in that movie

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that I really appreciate.

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"Manhunter".

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"Manhunter"'s based off
the novel "Red Dragon"

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by Thomas Harris, who also
made "Silence of the Lambs",

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and just like with
"Silence of the Lambs",

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this is a movie that
critics have to refer to

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as a thriller rather
than a horror movie

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so they're allowed to like it.

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The movie is about a killer
named the Tooth Fairy

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who bites people's faces.

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You can't call this
a horror movie?

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Give a kiss.

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William Peterson plays
a detective, Will Graham,

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who's investigating
murders being committed

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by this killer, who we
later learn is this guy

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called Francis Dollarhyde,

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and the reason the novel
was called "Red Dragon"

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is because Dollarhyde
worships this painting

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called the Red Dragon,
and identifies himself

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as the Red Dragon.

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You will lie awake in fear

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of what the Red Dragon will do.

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Francis Dollarhyde's
played by Tom Noonan

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who also played Frankenstein
in "The Monster Squad",

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and he's a very, very
effectively creepy villain.

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He's up there with Buffalo Bill

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from "Silence of the
Lambs", in my opinion.

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Put the fucking
lotion in the basket!

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As a testament to how
scary Tom Noonan is,

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he can wear pantyhose
over half of his face

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like he's Howie Mandel
trying to blow up a glove

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with his nose, and
still be scary.

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Well, here I am.

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This was the very
first screen appearance

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of Hannibal Lecter,
except this time

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he's played by Brian
Cox, not Anthony Hopkins.

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And Cox as Lecter
is a lot more subdued

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than Anthony Hopkins,
but he still has

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this quiet menace about him.

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Would you like to leave
me your home phone number?

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Even if he seems to
be cooperating with you,

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he still never
really lets you know

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what his true intentions are,

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but you can be rest assured
that they're not good,

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and he's smarter than you are.

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I know that I'm
not smarter than you.

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Then how did you catch me?

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You had disadvantages.

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What disadvantages?

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You're insane.

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At this point,
Michael Mann was famous

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for the series Miami Vice,

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and this movie uses
a lot of the same

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color scheme, a lot of
the same use of music.

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In a way, this could almost
be like a really scary

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extended episode of Miami Vice,

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and I think that kind of
ended up overshadowing

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the movie a little bit.

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Wes Craven, a very
groundbreaking filmmaker,

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whenever his name was on a film,

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I would always either go
and see it or rent it.

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He definitely had a
shaky track record.

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But it seemed like
he was always looking

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to find something
that would catch on.

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He was always doing these
very interesting stories

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about how kids were
dealing with a lot

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in terms of their family
dynamics, and things like that,

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and we see that especially
in the movie "Deadly Friend".

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"Deadly Friend".

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She can't live without you.

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"Deadly Friend" was adapted
from a story called "Friend".

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They were trying to
make this love story.

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A little bit of science
fiction element,

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little bit of action,
little bit of horror.

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We're pretty close approaching

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the way a normal
human brain works.

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"Deadly Friend" is
about a guy named Paul

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who is a genius.

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He's created this
robot friend named BB,

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a robot with super strength
who thinks for himself,

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and has emotions,
and feels things.

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What could go wrong with
that kind of strength?

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Well, turns out everything.

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I'm side eyeing this robot here,

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because that robot's a killer

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just waiting for
an excuse to kill.

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Sam was played by
Kristy Swanson,

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who we love her as
the original Buffy.

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Dad just will beat her,

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which is terrible.

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He yells at her, and then
throws her down the stairs.

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You whiny little bitch!

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Ow!

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She dies.

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Paul's like, I think
I can save her.

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You're giving her a robot brain?

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Giving her a computer.

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It's a battery powered
self-contained computer.

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So now he has a robot's brain

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in a human girl's
body, but she's dead,

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so he has to hide her, or
else she's walking around,

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she's a zombie, right?

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And then it all goes badly,
and I'm glad it goes badly,

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because it would be weird
if it didn't go badly.

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She sort of becomes
this very interesting

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kind of totem, in a way.

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How she's able to
right the wrongs

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of the way that
she's been treated,

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the way other people
have been treated.

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Elvira, played by Ann Ramsey.

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She's that gun-toting
get off my lawn

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times 40 Karen that
you could meet, right?

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Who's out there?

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What are you doing?

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It's just me, Ms. Parker!

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What is that?

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BB!

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But we love her.

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We love Ann Ramsey from
"Throw Mama From the Train",

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and from "Goonies".

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We love her in that mean
scary woman character.

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Damn kids.

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BB picks up the ball,

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and throws it at Elvira's head,

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and her whole head explodes.

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The whole head goes

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That's my favorite
kill of the movie.

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When they had
the movie together,

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a studio watched it,
and they said, no.

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This needs more violence.

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It needs to be gory.

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Because they're under
contract with the studio,

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they went back and
shot gore scenes.

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Then they were told
it was too much.

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They needed to be trimmed.

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So the creativeness is
pulled back from Wes Craven.

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Another movie where
everybody had fun.

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But I don't think
Wes Craven did.

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♪ Rock and roll

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"Trick or Treat".

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The ultimate rock
and roll horror movie.

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The perfect mixture
of the mythos

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behind the heavy metal
culture in the 80s.

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Just a great misfit
in high school story,

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which I totally related to.

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All right, so "Trick or Treat".

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You had Ozzy Osborne,
Gene Simmons,

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and Skippy from Family Ties.

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One of these things
is not like the other.

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Rockstar Sammi Curr,

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victim of a hotel fire.

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Dead at age 38.

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A rockstar dies, and then
this evil something or other

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comes back as a rockstar.

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I knew that "Trick or
Treat" was just candy.

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It tastes sweet and
then it goes away.

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It's a story of Ragman.

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He is picked on, he's bullied

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by pretty much everybody.

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I wanna nail every
one of those bastards!

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I don't know how,
I don't know when,

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but I'm gonna nail them.

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His hero is Sammi Curr,

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who is demonic,
dark, in your face.

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He ends up killing
himself in a ritual,

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setting himself on fire.

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His soul gets trapped
in the acetate demo

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that Gene Simmons has.

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This is very cool.

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And then when you
play it backwards,

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he comes back from the dead.

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You.

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Great cameos by Gene,

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and then Ozzy as the Bible
thumping PMRC minister.

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These evil people have
just got to be stopped.

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And it's just so off the hook.

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They were looking at a
lot of different rock stars

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to play Sammi Curr.

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Eddie.

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We had a deal.

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I didn't wanna be this
guy with leather studs.

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I was much more
interested in the DJ.

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It's party time, yeah!

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This is the old
Nooser coming at ya

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right here on this fine,
fine Rocktober morning.

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It's the sweeping sensation,

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like patterned
after Wolfman Jack,

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who was a DJ at the time.

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I just had two or three
weeks off between a tour,

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and wound up doing it.

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Eh, Ragman!

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I remember I was so
excited to meet him.

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I said to him, hey Gene Simmons,

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can you do the thing
with the tongue?

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And he said no, I only
do that for girls.

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Tony Fields was genuinely scary

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playing Sammi Curr.

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Hiya, bud.

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03:05:32,455 --> 03:05:33,844
Boy, he got that
rockstar stuff down.

259
03:05:33,868 --> 03:05:36,776
He could dance and sing
and move with the guitar

260
03:05:36,800 --> 03:05:38,017
and jump off the stage,

261
03:05:38,041 --> 03:05:39,948
and capable of so much,

262
03:05:39,972 --> 03:05:42,006
and we lost him way too young.

263
03:05:44,937 --> 03:05:48,017
The film script was
funnier and darker.

264
03:05:48,041 --> 03:05:52,155
I think what we ended up with
was something in the middle.

265
03:05:52,179 --> 03:05:54,293
Charlie Martin Smith was
directing for the first time,

266
03:05:54,317 --> 03:05:56,120
"Trick or Treat", that
was his first time.

267
03:05:56,144 --> 03:05:58,465
We had a kinship, a
nerd-like kinship,

268
03:05:58,489 --> 03:06:01,155
that other directors
might not have picked me.

269
03:06:01,179 --> 03:06:02,258
I have to be honest with you.

270
03:06:02,282 --> 03:06:03,903
Keanu Reeves was up for it.

271
03:06:08,455 --> 03:06:09,672
The gore is great,
the kills are great.

272
03:06:09,696 --> 03:06:12,258
When he yanks the old
lady through the TV,

273
03:06:12,282 --> 03:06:14,776
and she just immediately
turns to dust.

274
03:06:14,800 --> 03:06:17,017
Uh, what the shit
just happened, dude?

275
03:06:17,041 --> 03:06:18,800
This is insane.

276
03:06:20,903 --> 03:06:22,569
We were blessed
to get Kevin Yagher

277
03:06:22,593 --> 03:06:25,213
to do the special effects
and the makeup in the film.

278
03:06:26,868 --> 03:06:28,741
It was the first time that
I had acted in a movie

279
03:06:28,765 --> 03:06:31,731
with an imaginary monster, and
things happening, and stuff.

280
03:06:33,524 --> 03:06:34,741
Oh.

281
03:06:34,765 --> 03:06:39,351
Of course, the amazing
soundtrack by Fastway.

282
03:06:40,110 --> 03:06:41,431
♪ Rock and roll

283
03:06:41,455 --> 03:06:43,362
♪ Rockin' on a midnight

284
03:06:43,386 --> 03:06:46,741
♪ Steal your soul

285
03:06:46,765 --> 03:06:49,672
Just such a killer
collection of great tunes

286
03:06:49,696 --> 03:06:51,603
that I still listen to
to this day.

287
03:06:51,627 --> 03:06:52,501
♪ On a midnight

288
03:06:52,525 --> 03:06:53,948
♪ Steal your soul

289
03:06:53,972 --> 03:06:55,396
We were giddy, it was so good.

290
03:06:55,420 --> 03:06:57,327
We were like, this is good.

291
03:06:57,351 --> 03:06:59,086
If the film was successful
when it came out,

292
03:06:59,110 --> 03:07:01,293
it wasn't successful enough
for them to do the sequel,

293
03:07:01,317 --> 03:07:04,396
and I'm not still
living off of it.

294
03:07:04,420 --> 03:07:07,120
If you think about all the
movies that are out there,

295
03:07:07,144 --> 03:07:10,041
it's unimaginable that people
still care about this movie.

296
03:07:12,765 --> 03:07:13,776
Un-fucking real.

297
03:07:13,800 --> 03:07:17,144
Heavy metal fans stayed true.

298
03:07:27,489 --> 03:07:29,776
Marty Rantzen is still a dork,

299
03:07:29,800 --> 03:07:31,603
but tonight he's getting even.

300
03:07:31,627 --> 03:07:34,558
Vestron Pictures presents
"Slaughter High".

301
03:07:36,420 --> 03:07:38,051
April fool's!

302
03:07:38,075 --> 03:07:41,672
"Slaughter High" is about a kid

303
03:07:41,696 --> 03:07:44,362
that gets bullied, and
years later at a reunion,

304
03:07:44,386 --> 03:07:45,327
he comes back.

305
03:07:45,351 --> 03:07:46,351
Starts killing.

306
03:07:52,834 --> 03:07:54,534
It's a revenge film.

307
03:07:54,558 --> 03:07:56,810
It's a horrible prank,
and a prank that went

308
03:07:56,834 --> 03:07:58,810
horribly wrong for
everybody else.

309
03:07:58,834 --> 03:08:00,017
I'm sorry, Marty.

310
03:08:00,041 --> 03:08:01,524
We didn't mean to!

311
03:08:03,144 --> 03:08:05,465
First of all, it was
called "April Fool's Day",

312
03:08:05,489 --> 03:08:07,844
and of course, that's like the
American "April Fool's Day",

313
03:08:07,868 --> 03:08:10,317
so we had to change the title.

314
03:08:11,489 --> 03:08:13,051
It was meant to be
shot in the States,

315
03:08:13,075 --> 03:08:16,327
and there was no budget, so
it was all shot in England.

316
03:08:16,351 --> 03:08:17,741
Three directors.

317
03:08:17,765 --> 03:08:19,431
George Dugdale, my husband.

318
03:08:19,455 --> 03:08:22,500
Peter Mackenzie
Litten, and Mark Ezra.

319
03:08:22,524 --> 03:08:24,707
They all took different roles.

320
03:08:24,731 --> 03:08:26,707
Peter Litten did
the special effects,

321
03:08:26,731 --> 03:08:29,489
so he'd step in and
do those scenes.

322
03:08:31,800 --> 03:08:34,017
Mark was more the writer,
and George would be

323
03:08:34,041 --> 03:08:36,396
very hands-on as the
physical director,

324
03:08:36,420 --> 03:08:37,465
which worked really well.

325
03:08:37,489 --> 03:08:38,913
Good friends.

326
03:08:38,937 --> 03:08:40,937
I've never had that before,
but it was interesting.

327
03:08:42,041 --> 03:08:43,569
Carol, my character.

328
03:08:43,593 --> 03:08:44,696
Come on.

329
03:08:45,937 --> 03:08:47,396
She wasn't a very
nice person at all.

330
03:08:47,420 --> 03:08:48,672
She was a bit of a tease,

331
03:08:48,696 --> 03:08:51,120
and she thought she
was the bees knees.

332
03:08:51,144 --> 03:08:52,741
And she was meant to
be an 18-year-old.

333
03:08:52,765 --> 03:08:53,673
I'm sorry.

334
03:08:53,697 --> 03:08:56,465
I was in my 30s at that point.

335
03:08:56,489 --> 03:08:57,982
They were clever in the casting,

336
03:08:58,006 --> 03:09:00,741
because they got people in
their late 20s and stuff,

337
03:09:00,765 --> 03:09:02,327
so it didn't look
too out of place.

338
03:09:02,351 --> 03:09:05,258
You filthy stinking
bastard, Marty!

339
03:09:05,282 --> 03:09:07,189
What do you want from us?

340
03:09:07,213 --> 03:09:09,086
There was a mix of Brit actors,

341
03:09:09,110 --> 03:09:11,224
and then we had about
four, five Americans,

342
03:09:11,248 --> 03:09:12,868
so that made it credible.

343
03:09:14,593 --> 03:09:15,879
Simon Scuddamore.

344
03:09:15,903 --> 03:09:18,086
Very intense, and he
did a brilliant job.

345
03:09:18,110 --> 03:09:20,258
He made Marty
totally come to life.

346
03:09:20,282 --> 03:09:21,800
It was wonderful.

347
03:09:24,317 --> 03:09:25,569
How do you want it?

348
03:09:25,593 --> 03:09:26,466
Please, stop!

349
03:09:26,490 --> 03:09:27,879
No!

350
03:09:27,903 --> 03:09:29,258
And what they did, I
don't know why they did it,

351
03:09:29,282 --> 03:09:32,327
it was just like a
pack of hyenas, really.

352
03:09:32,351 --> 03:09:34,258
The scene with
the Bunsen burner.

353
03:09:34,282 --> 03:09:36,420
They did such a
good job with that.

354
03:09:39,903 --> 03:09:41,120
No CGI.

355
03:09:41,144 --> 03:09:43,420
All practically done
in front of your eyes.

356
03:09:45,972 --> 03:09:47,500
It all sets on fire.

357
03:09:47,524 --> 03:09:48,913
I think it's a
fabulous sequence.

358
03:09:48,937 --> 03:09:50,569
It's a kind of
tongue-in-cheek play

359
03:09:50,593 --> 03:09:53,937
upon other films that
were maybe more serious.

360
03:09:55,696 --> 03:09:58,662
Given the budget, I think
it stands up quite well.

361
03:10:01,489 --> 03:10:03,776
People seem to like it,
especially in the States

362
03:10:03,800 --> 03:10:04,604
when I go there.

363
03:10:04,628 --> 03:10:05,982
They say, we love it.

364
03:10:06,006 --> 03:10:07,879
I say, what do
you like about it?

365
03:10:07,903 --> 03:10:11,731
They say it's so cheesy,
we just love it.

366
03:10:15,800 --> 03:10:16,982
Maybe it is a bit cheesy,

367
03:10:17,006 --> 03:10:18,879
but it's cheesy and fun,

368
03:10:18,903 --> 03:10:21,017
and the effects were
really well done,

369
03:10:21,041 --> 03:10:23,741
and hopefully the acting's okay.

370
03:10:23,765 --> 03:10:24,972
Look, Manny.

371
03:10:26,179 --> 03:10:29,603
The guy's weird, the
story's weird, and-

372
03:10:29,627 --> 03:10:30,432
And what?

373
03:10:30,456 --> 03:10:31,800
And you're weird.

374
03:10:40,593 --> 03:10:43,431
"Class of Nuke 'Em High",
like all Troma movies,

375
03:10:43,455 --> 03:10:47,258
was a movie ripped
from today's headlines.

376
03:10:47,282 --> 03:10:50,293
There was a nuclear
power plant being built

377
03:10:50,317 --> 03:10:53,189
about a quarter of a mile
away from the United States'

378
03:10:53,213 --> 03:10:56,327
most populous city,
namely New York City.

379
03:10:56,351 --> 03:10:57,844
And right next to where I lived,

380
03:10:57,868 --> 03:11:01,017
so that gave me the idea
of let's talk about that.

381
03:11:01,041 --> 03:11:03,258
But sir, if we could just
shut down for 48 hours-

382
03:11:03,282 --> 03:11:04,569
Shut down?

383
03:11:04,593 --> 03:11:05,810
They'll investigate us.

384
03:11:05,834 --> 03:11:07,327
The EPA, the NRC.

385
03:11:07,551 --> 03:11:10,838
"Class of Nuke 'Em High" is
like a Cuisinart of genres.

386
03:11:10,862 --> 03:11:14,010
People really enjoyed the
mixture of humor and horror,

387
03:11:14,034 --> 03:11:18,068
and social satire, and
politics, and violence.

388
03:11:21,620 --> 03:11:22,734
It's an excellent film.

389
03:11:22,758 --> 03:11:24,182
It's very entertaining.

390
03:11:24,206 --> 03:11:27,631
It's got something to say
about pollution and radiation.

391
03:11:27,655 --> 03:11:28,941
We have found no connection

392
03:11:28,965 --> 03:11:30,976
between that unfortunate student

393
03:11:31,000 --> 03:11:32,182
and this facility.

394
03:11:32,206 --> 03:11:33,493
I almost killed
one of my kids in it.

395
03:11:33,517 --> 03:11:34,907
That was kinda fun.

396
03:11:34,931 --> 03:11:37,665
We had to have a motorcycle
run into a bake sale

397
03:11:37,689 --> 03:11:39,976
with a lot of women with cakes,

398
03:11:40,000 --> 03:11:42,286
and I put my wife and kid
right in the center of it,

399
03:11:42,310 --> 03:11:44,931
so that if anybody got
hurt, you know, my fault.

400
03:11:46,896 --> 03:11:49,562
Nothing happened, but
they came pretty close.

401
03:11:49,586 --> 03:11:51,527
Well, the whole idea of
blowing up your school,

402
03:11:51,551 --> 03:11:52,803
I always loved that.

403
03:11:52,827 --> 03:11:54,251
And I think that was
one of the reasons

404
03:11:54,275 --> 03:11:55,355
it was successful.

405
03:11:55,379 --> 03:11:57,310
We literally destroyed a school.

406
03:12:01,034 --> 03:12:02,700
Once it got into theaters,

407
03:12:02,724 --> 03:12:04,562
we made over 100 prints.

408
03:12:04,586 --> 03:12:07,458
A video cassette company called
Media Home Entertainment,

409
03:12:07,482 --> 03:12:10,976
they sold over 500,000
video cassettes

410
03:12:11,000 --> 03:12:13,724
around 200 bucks for
a video cassette.

411
03:12:15,344 --> 03:12:16,596
You know, "Class
of Nuke 'Em High"

412
03:12:16,620 --> 03:12:19,286
is still very popular with fans.

413
03:12:19,310 --> 03:12:20,493
Nostalgic, too.

414
03:12:20,517 --> 03:12:21,941
We've got all these young people

415
03:12:21,965 --> 03:12:23,424
who are now in their 50s

416
03:12:23,448 --> 03:12:25,493
who still like "Class
of Nuke 'Em High".

417
03:12:25,517 --> 03:12:28,172
They want to see
the future, but now.

418
03:12:30,241 --> 03:12:31,700
It's a good movie.

419
03:12:31,724 --> 03:12:33,665
It's so good that there's
"Subhumanoid Meltdown:

420
03:12:33,689 --> 03:12:35,113
"Class of Nuke 'Em High Part 2",

421
03:12:35,137 --> 03:12:36,734
"The Good the Bad
and the Subhumanoid:

422
03:12:36,758 --> 03:12:38,424
"Class of Nuke 'Em High Part 3".

423
03:12:38,448 --> 03:12:39,941
There are five of them.

424
03:12:39,965 --> 03:12:41,148
Tromaville High School will be

425
03:12:41,172 --> 03:12:43,103
temporarily closed
for remodeling.

426
03:12:44,068 --> 03:12:45,620
All right!

427
03:12:52,862 --> 03:12:55,241
This is actually
based on a true story.

428
03:12:56,241 --> 03:12:57,493
"The Zero Boys".

429
03:12:57,517 --> 03:13:00,976
Dawn of a new breed of heroes.

430
03:13:01,000 --> 03:13:03,320
This really did happen
upstate California.

431
03:13:03,344 --> 03:13:05,976
There was a group of people
that would go paintballing,

432
03:13:06,000 --> 03:13:08,379
and there was a maniac
that would kill them.

433
03:13:11,793 --> 03:13:15,079
Somebody said I'm gonna write
a movie about this, and did.

434
03:13:15,103 --> 03:13:16,838
In the movie, there's a
group, and they're called

435
03:13:16,862 --> 03:13:20,010
the Zero Boys, because they
never, ever, ever, ever win.

436
03:13:20,034 --> 03:13:21,872
But this one time, they won.

437
03:13:21,896 --> 03:13:22,896
Do it.

438
03:13:23,620 --> 03:13:25,769
The Zero Boys are the best!

439
03:13:25,793 --> 03:13:27,286
Fucking assholes.

440
03:13:27,310 --> 03:13:29,872
And they won my character.

441
03:13:29,896 --> 03:13:32,596
And so she's very
unhappy about that.

442
03:13:32,620 --> 03:13:35,838
I am so thrilled to
be with the champions.

443
03:13:35,862 --> 03:13:37,044
Go on.

444
03:13:37,068 --> 03:13:38,458
Show me what makes
the Zero Boys tick.

445
03:13:38,482 --> 03:13:40,389
So they get up there,
and all of a sudden

446
03:13:40,413 --> 03:13:41,390
something is wrong.

447
03:13:41,414 --> 03:13:43,068
Jamie.

448
03:13:48,103 --> 03:13:51,079
It was kind of more getting
into the torture thing,

449
03:13:51,103 --> 03:13:53,103
like really kind
of sick and weird.

450
03:13:55,655 --> 03:13:57,424
Directed by Nico Mastorakis,

451
03:13:57,448 --> 03:14:02,010
who was this Greek guy who loved
action exploitation horror.

452
03:14:02,034 --> 03:14:05,320
And Nico just delivers this
powerhouse of action movie

453
03:14:05,344 --> 03:14:07,113
mixed with horror.

454
03:14:07,137 --> 03:14:09,113
The running and the
hanging by our feet

455
03:14:09,137 --> 03:14:10,665
and all that other
kind of stuff,

456
03:14:10,689 --> 03:14:14,113
a lot of inventiveness with
weapons, and crossbows,

457
03:14:14,137 --> 03:14:15,689
and things like that.

458
03:14:17,206 --> 03:14:19,251
And this movie is
brilliantly photographed

459
03:14:19,275 --> 03:14:20,769
by Steve Shaw.

460
03:14:20,793 --> 03:14:22,734
Every shot of that movie
is almost like a painting,

461
03:14:22,758 --> 03:14:25,700
especially when they're
out in the wilderness.

462
03:14:25,724 --> 03:14:27,217
It was a lot of running
around in the woods,

463
03:14:27,241 --> 03:14:28,458
that's for sure.

464
03:14:28,482 --> 03:14:29,838
Everybody camped
together and went

465
03:14:29,862 --> 03:14:31,700
we have a serious problem here.

466
03:14:31,724 --> 03:14:32,872
What are we going to do?

467
03:14:32,896 --> 03:14:34,976
And did it as a group.

468
03:14:35,000 --> 03:14:37,182
You have to get engaged
with the characters,

469
03:14:37,206 --> 03:14:39,527
and care about them,
or relate to them,

470
03:14:39,551 --> 03:14:42,148
or have an opinion about them.

471
03:14:42,172 --> 03:14:43,941
If you don't know
who these people are

472
03:14:44,065 --> 03:14:46,420
on an intimate level,
then you don't care.

473
03:14:46,444 --> 03:14:48,306
We wanna care.

474
03:14:50,617 --> 03:14:52,213
My favorite kill
in "The Zero Boys",

475
03:14:52,237 --> 03:14:54,351
he falls into this
pit of spikes,

476
03:14:54,375 --> 03:14:55,962
and then you can't get out.

477
03:14:59,720 --> 03:15:02,168
But it was a good kill.

478
03:15:04,962 --> 03:15:06,903
Joe Estevez played the killer,

479
03:15:06,927 --> 03:15:09,110
and he looks exactly
like Martin Sheen.

480
03:15:09,134 --> 03:15:11,282
Probably scarier, because
he has more experience

481
03:15:11,306 --> 03:15:13,341
doing these kinds of things.

482
03:15:17,444 --> 03:15:19,800
It was Hans Zimmer's
first American score.

483
03:15:19,824 --> 03:15:21,582
Frank Darabont was on the crew.

484
03:15:23,306 --> 03:15:25,351
I remember he was
telling us all about

485
03:15:25,375 --> 03:15:27,386
how he had a story
that he bought

486
03:15:27,410 --> 03:15:29,179
from Stephen King for a dollar,

487
03:15:29,203 --> 03:15:31,927
and it was "Shawshank
Redemption".

488
03:15:34,203 --> 03:15:37,007
"The Zero Boys" is under the
radar because it always was.

489
03:15:37,031 --> 03:15:38,972
It was always an
underground thing.

490
03:15:38,996 --> 03:15:40,351
What's scary about
"The Zero Boys"

491
03:15:40,375 --> 03:15:42,455
is you could be doing
something that you love to do,

492
03:15:42,479 --> 03:15:43,824
and be in mortal danger.

493
03:15:45,962 --> 03:15:47,962
There's no place safe.

494
03:15:58,410 --> 03:16:01,972
My real name is George Tani.

495
03:16:01,996 --> 03:16:04,110
Growing up, I was very impressed

496
03:16:04,134 --> 03:16:06,213
with Ray Harry Haroldon movies.

497
03:16:06,237 --> 03:16:08,489
"Jason and the Argonauts".

498
03:16:08,513 --> 03:16:10,869
My dad took me to the theater.

499
03:16:10,893 --> 03:16:13,834
He said it's gonna be fun,
it's gonna be a fighting movie.

500
03:16:13,858 --> 03:16:15,144
It's like a skeleton, you
know, you're gonna like it.

501
03:16:15,168 --> 03:16:17,386
And I said oh, that's great.

502
03:16:17,410 --> 03:16:20,248
I have been watching
"Godzilla", and all those,

503
03:16:20,272 --> 03:16:22,110
Tojo and kaiju films.

504
03:16:22,134 --> 03:16:24,617
When I saw "Howling".

505
03:16:29,100 --> 03:16:33,765
The first time I saw the man
turned into the werewolf,

506
03:16:33,789 --> 03:16:36,179
changing right in
front of my eye,

507
03:16:36,203 --> 03:16:39,168
I was like, this is it.

508
03:16:44,651 --> 03:16:47,627
And then you see more coming up

509
03:16:47,651 --> 03:16:50,420
from Rick Baker, and Rob Bottin.

510
03:16:50,444 --> 03:16:54,306
And then Dick Smith's
"Altered States".

511
03:16:57,582 --> 03:17:01,972
The images of that
really made me decide

512
03:17:01,996 --> 03:17:04,031
this is the way to go.

513
03:17:09,100 --> 03:17:12,420
When I went to New
York studying in school

514
03:17:12,444 --> 03:17:16,582
of visual arts, right in the
beginning of punk movement.

515
03:17:17,513 --> 03:17:19,076
♪ God save the queen

516
03:17:19,100 --> 03:17:21,110
I saw the art side of it.

517
03:17:21,134 --> 03:17:24,351
Punk music really
gave me the art,

518
03:17:24,375 --> 03:17:27,110
okay, we can do a
lot more on edge.

519
03:17:27,134 --> 03:17:31,100
I can perform something
shocking to the people.

520
03:17:32,927 --> 03:17:36,524
"Nightmare 4", my effect
was Debbie's roach,

521
03:17:36,548 --> 03:17:38,041
the girl that hates
the cockroach,

522
03:17:38,065 --> 03:17:39,524
and then she
becomes a cockroach,

523
03:17:39,548 --> 03:17:43,317
and then crushed by Freddie.

524
03:17:43,341 --> 03:17:47,731
That's like Kafka, you know?

525
03:17:47,755 --> 03:17:50,420
And this is a surreal sequence.

526
03:17:50,444 --> 03:17:52,282
The fake body, we take it off

527
03:17:52,306 --> 03:17:54,213
so she can put her head out,

528
03:17:54,237 --> 03:17:56,834
and fake arm, it breaks.

529
03:17:56,858 --> 03:17:59,834
It's old trick, but the images,

530
03:17:59,858 --> 03:18:02,996
and what happening,
really creep them out.

531
03:18:03,893 --> 03:18:05,720
Everybody is like really, ugh!

532
03:18:07,617 --> 03:18:09,076
That's gross!

533
03:18:09,100 --> 03:18:11,720
I succeeded the illusion.

534
03:18:12,720 --> 03:18:15,444
I'm very proud of that show.

535
03:18:21,168 --> 03:18:22,351
It was Brian Yuzna.

536
03:18:22,375 --> 03:18:25,076
We were really creating
the scene together.

537
03:18:25,100 --> 03:18:27,317
Especially the
chanting sequence.

538
03:18:27,341 --> 03:18:32,100
It's a real grotesque orgy.

539
03:18:37,100 --> 03:18:38,593
I love Dali.

540
03:18:38,617 --> 03:18:42,869
Dali is the one that
made me really into art.

541
03:18:42,893 --> 03:18:45,834
My crew was all
inside, you know?

542
03:18:45,858 --> 03:18:48,076
Inside of that creature.

543
03:18:48,100 --> 03:18:49,282
They can move.

544
03:18:49,306 --> 03:18:52,696
That's why you don't
have to have expensive

545
03:18:52,720 --> 03:18:54,582
mechanical movement, you know?

546
03:18:55,789 --> 03:18:58,203
And the people can
move organically.

547
03:19:02,203 --> 03:19:05,662
I put in my 200, 300% on it.

548
03:19:05,686 --> 03:19:09,317
So my sleeping time is
really maybe average

549
03:19:09,341 --> 03:19:11,558
of two hours a
day, or something,

550
03:19:11,582 --> 03:19:13,375
during the show.

551
03:19:14,720 --> 03:19:16,800
There was not much
budget, so I just have to

552
03:19:16,824 --> 03:19:19,593
sculpt everything
myself, pretty much.

553
03:19:19,617 --> 03:19:21,203
And fast.

554
03:19:25,479 --> 03:19:27,800
Making things for
"Bride of Re-Animator",

555
03:19:27,824 --> 03:19:31,076
we didn't have enough
time to shoot everything

556
03:19:31,100 --> 03:19:32,248
that we wanted to do.

557
03:19:32,272 --> 03:19:34,455
It was very rushed.

558
03:19:34,479 --> 03:19:37,351
Herbert West, he does
a bunch of experiments,

559
03:19:37,375 --> 03:19:41,100
so I can do so many
different idea.

560
03:19:45,927 --> 03:19:49,662
The design comes in as
outrageous as possible.

561
03:19:49,686 --> 03:19:53,962
You stupid biped!

562
03:19:55,237 --> 03:20:00,213
Vietnam veteran,
Noble Craig, is an actor

563
03:20:00,237 --> 03:20:02,248
who is amputee.

564
03:20:02,272 --> 03:20:05,696
I've been working with him
since "Poltergeist II".

565
03:20:05,720 --> 03:20:09,248
The vomit creature,
crawl across the room,

566
03:20:09,272 --> 03:20:11,617
that is Craig.

567
03:20:16,444 --> 03:20:18,593
And then "Big Trouble
in Little China",

568
03:20:18,617 --> 03:20:22,248
sewer creature, the creature
comes out from a tunnel,

569
03:20:22,272 --> 03:20:24,696
eats the guy, and then
comes back, right?

570
03:20:24,720 --> 03:20:26,282
That's it.

571
03:20:26,306 --> 03:20:28,869
It took three months to make it.

572
03:20:28,893 --> 03:20:32,007
That too, Noble
Craig is inside there

573
03:20:32,031 --> 03:20:33,593
in special makeup effects.

574
03:20:33,617 --> 03:20:37,627
I think that is one of
the evolutional happenings

575
03:20:37,651 --> 03:20:40,696
happened in film industry.

576
03:20:40,720 --> 03:20:45,720
When I was in Japan, first
I call myself Toshusi Mad,

577
03:20:46,962 --> 03:20:48,696
and then I wanted
to have something

578
03:20:48,720 --> 03:20:50,524
that is really crazy.

579
03:20:50,548 --> 03:20:55,007
Mad is something that is
much more crazier than crazy,

580
03:20:55,031 --> 03:20:56,696
I think, you know what I mean?

581
03:20:56,720 --> 03:20:57,755
More power with it.

582
03:20:58,962 --> 03:21:02,041
And then I remember
the blues singer

583
03:21:02,065 --> 03:21:04,927
named Screaming Jay Hawkins.

584
03:21:05,858 --> 03:21:10,213
If I use Screaming Mad George.

585
03:21:10,237 --> 03:21:11,938
That sounds good.

586
03:21:11,962 --> 03:21:15,168
Screaming Mad George
is my artist name.

587
03:21:34,548 --> 03:21:37,179
"Witchboard".

588
03:21:37,203 --> 03:21:39,351
"Witchboard" is the
reason I will not allow

589
03:21:39,375 --> 03:21:41,765
a Ouija board in my
house to this day.

590
03:21:41,789 --> 03:21:43,651
Don't come into my house
with a Ouija board.

591
03:21:47,203 --> 03:21:48,834
All I ever wanted
to do was figure out

592
03:21:48,858 --> 03:21:49,938
where I could get a Ouija board.

593
03:21:49,962 --> 03:21:51,696
I wanna try this thing out.

594
03:21:51,720 --> 03:21:52,720
Can you hear me?

595
03:21:55,927 --> 03:21:59,593
That movie came out
right at the right time

596
03:21:59,617 --> 03:22:00,789
for my puberty.

597
03:22:01,962 --> 03:22:06,617
Tawny Kitaen, the
quintessential wow.

598
03:22:07,789 --> 03:22:10,593
I had already seen her
in "Bachelor Party".

599
03:22:10,617 --> 03:22:12,938
I'd seen her in all the
fucking Whitesnake videos

600
03:22:12,962 --> 03:22:13,962
at that point.

601
03:22:14,996 --> 03:22:17,455
♪ Well here I go
again on my own ♪

602
03:22:17,479 --> 03:22:20,041
Doing flips on the cars,
and splits and things.

603
03:22:20,065 --> 03:22:22,179
It was very impressive.

604
03:22:22,203 --> 03:22:23,720
I'd really like to try this.

605
03:22:27,341 --> 03:22:29,317
"Witchboard" is about somebody

606
03:22:29,341 --> 03:22:32,524
who becomes obsessed
with the Ouija board.

607
03:22:32,548 --> 03:22:34,869
David, do you remember me?

608
03:22:34,893 --> 03:22:39,893
A Ouija board that then
opens the portal of hell

609
03:22:40,479 --> 03:22:41,558
to a demon.

610
03:22:41,882 --> 03:22:43,468
Ooh, that's a little spooky.

611
03:22:44,365 --> 03:22:45,170
It's a little stupid.

612
03:22:45,194 --> 03:22:46,824
It's a lot stupid.

613
03:22:46,848 --> 03:22:50,272
The visceral horror and
gore that starts to happen

614
03:22:50,296 --> 03:22:53,513
once the horror is
unleashed in "Witchboard".

615
03:22:53,737 --> 03:22:55,576
It really scared
the crap out of me

616
03:22:56,100 --> 03:22:57,248
in a really fun way.

617
03:23:00,406 --> 03:23:01,727
It's the very first
film that we got

618
03:23:01,751 --> 03:23:02,969
from Kevin Tenney.

619
03:23:02,993 --> 03:23:05,200
This was a precursor to
"Night of the Demons".

620
03:23:05,924 --> 03:23:07,900
He starts to frighten
and terrorize her,

621
03:23:07,924 --> 03:23:10,176
gradually breaking
down her resistance.

622
03:23:10,200 --> 03:23:12,831
And once that's done,
he's able to possess her.

623
03:23:12,855 --> 03:23:15,796
The thing that Kevin
Tenney brought to the table

624
03:23:15,820 --> 03:23:18,796
that set him apart from other
directors I've worked with

625
03:23:18,820 --> 03:23:22,717
was his sense of humor and
his passion for horror.

626
03:23:25,889 --> 03:23:27,520
Ouija board was copyrighted

627
03:23:27,544 --> 03:23:29,693
so that he couldn't call
his movie "Ouija Board",

628
03:23:29,717 --> 03:23:31,451
so he changed it
to "Witchboard".

629
03:23:31,475 --> 03:23:34,176
It's pronounced
Ouija, not Ouij-i.

630
03:23:34,200 --> 03:23:37,176
It comes from the French
and German words for yes.

631
03:23:37,200 --> 03:23:38,451
Oui and ja.

632
03:23:38,475 --> 03:23:40,003
Ouija.

633
03:23:40,027 --> 03:23:42,382
It was great working with
the late great Tawny Kitaen.

634
03:23:42,406 --> 03:23:44,141
You must be Linda.

635
03:23:44,165 --> 03:23:45,727
She was fun to act with.

636
03:23:45,751 --> 03:23:47,382
She had a little brown dog

637
03:23:47,406 --> 03:23:49,348
that she brought on
the set all the time.

638
03:23:49,372 --> 03:23:51,107
Jim, this is Zarabeth.

639
03:23:51,131 --> 03:23:53,268
The best medium in
northern California.

640
03:23:54,200 --> 03:23:56,244
When we did that seance scene,

641
03:23:56,268 --> 03:23:57,969
every time they'd say action,

642
03:23:57,993 --> 03:24:00,520
and I'd go like, whoo.

643
03:24:00,544 --> 03:24:02,417
Pretend like the
boy was in my body.

644
03:24:02,441 --> 03:24:04,969
I'd look over at her and
she'd be like,

645
03:24:04,993 --> 03:24:08,451
she'd start laughing, and
then we all start laughing.

646
03:24:08,475 --> 03:24:10,486
And nobody could ever
pull it together.

647
03:24:10,510 --> 03:24:12,762
And I was like, I can't do this!

648
03:24:12,786 --> 03:24:14,244
It was so goofy.

649
03:24:14,268 --> 03:24:17,313
But with the scary music,
when we finally got a take,

650
03:24:17,337 --> 03:24:19,727
it worked, you know
they put a weird effect

651
03:24:19,751 --> 03:24:21,520
on my voice or
something like that.

652
03:24:21,544 --> 03:24:23,372
She hurt me.

653
03:24:24,648 --> 03:24:26,624
She won't talk to me anymore.

654
03:24:26,648 --> 03:24:29,993
Zarabeth to me is definitely
a highlight of "Witchboard".

655
03:24:31,234 --> 03:24:34,279
Just some more psychic humor.

656
03:24:34,303 --> 03:24:36,107
Come on Brandy, let's
hit the musky dusk.

657
03:24:36,131 --> 03:24:38,889
Her death is so gnarly, too.

658
03:24:43,303 --> 03:24:45,589
They'd say action,
and then I'd get to

659
03:24:45,613 --> 03:24:48,451
pretend like I land
on the sundial,

660
03:24:48,475 --> 03:24:51,589
and I had got one of those
blood pills in my mouth,

661
03:24:51,613 --> 03:24:55,544
and I did get to go like,

662
03:24:57,062 --> 03:24:59,796
and like split out blood,

663
03:24:59,820 --> 03:25:01,796
which I adored.

664
03:25:01,820 --> 03:25:06,176
They had taped the top
of the sundial to my back

665
03:25:06,200 --> 03:25:10,486
so I ran down the set,

666
03:25:10,510 --> 03:25:13,072
pretending like I was a shark.

667
03:25:13,096 --> 03:25:14,579
I see danger ahead.

668
03:25:16,303 --> 03:25:17,313
For Linda?

669
03:25:17,337 --> 03:25:18,693
For you.

670
03:25:18,717 --> 03:25:19,934
If you miss my house.

671
03:25:19,958 --> 03:25:24,337
On "Witchboard", I had
so much fun laughing.

672
03:25:25,820 --> 03:25:29,796
It's coming up on the right!

673
03:25:29,820 --> 03:25:31,176
A little more
psychic humor, huh?

674
03:25:31,200 --> 03:25:34,579
With tears and
belly laughs everyday.

675
03:25:39,648 --> 03:25:40,658
Tawny Kitaen.

676
03:25:40,682 --> 03:25:43,003
When I saw that she died,

677
03:25:43,027 --> 03:25:45,176
I felt loss, and sadness.

678
03:25:45,200 --> 03:25:48,038
She was a blast, and
funny, and smart,

679
03:25:48,062 --> 03:25:51,244
and lovely, and it's
weird for me to even think

680
03:25:51,268 --> 03:25:52,520
that she's not around.

681
03:25:52,544 --> 03:25:54,268
It's bizarre to me.

682
03:26:00,096 --> 03:26:03,417
"Blood Rage", also
known as "Slasher",

683
03:26:03,441 --> 03:26:06,279
and "Nightmare at Shadow Woods".

684
03:26:06,303 --> 03:26:07,831
I mean it's like,
make up your minds,

685
03:26:07,855 --> 03:26:08,855
will you people?

686
03:26:10,303 --> 03:26:13,038
There's so few
Thanksgiving horror movies,

687
03:26:13,062 --> 03:26:16,244
that I feel like this has
kind of had a resurgence

688
03:26:16,268 --> 03:26:18,969
in recent years,
because everybody wants

689
03:26:18,993 --> 03:26:21,613
a horror movie to
watch on the holidays.

690
03:26:27,648 --> 03:26:30,717
Twin boys, one crazy, one not.

691
03:26:31,613 --> 03:26:32,658
There's a mix-up.

692
03:26:32,682 --> 03:26:34,417
One gets put in an asylum.

693
03:26:34,441 --> 03:26:35,934
One's out loose.

694
03:26:35,958 --> 03:26:37,038
Nobody in the movie knows.

695
03:26:37,062 --> 03:26:39,244
Everyone in the audience knows.

696
03:26:39,268 --> 03:26:40,451
Here's to the new family.

697
03:26:40,475 --> 03:26:42,348
"Blood Rage" is about
a Thanksgiving meal

698
03:26:42,372 --> 03:26:45,624
that just goes completely
awash in blood.

699
03:26:45,648 --> 03:26:47,313
I'm not a fan of horror.

700
03:26:47,337 --> 03:26:49,141
When I got "Blood
Rage", it was a new

701
03:26:49,165 --> 03:26:51,027
genre for me completely.

702
03:26:52,510 --> 03:26:55,486
I went to the video store, and
went to the horror section.

703
03:26:55,510 --> 03:26:58,279
I literally had to go
and investigate it.

704
03:26:58,303 --> 03:27:01,210
What, are you gonna try
and shoot me again, Todd?

705
03:27:01,234 --> 03:27:03,520
It's twins.

706
03:27:03,544 --> 03:27:04,452
You know?

707
03:27:04,476 --> 03:27:05,934
So I'm going, are they kidding?

708
03:27:05,958 --> 03:27:07,486
Do they know what they're
getting involved with?

709
03:27:07,510 --> 03:27:10,003
That's a chore for most
people in any film,

710
03:27:10,027 --> 03:27:11,889
let alone on a low budget.

711
03:27:13,268 --> 03:27:16,244
I broke it down, Stanislavski,
building a character.

712
03:27:16,268 --> 03:27:18,589
The psychopath, you know?

713
03:27:18,613 --> 03:27:23,107
And then the other guy was
closer to what I usually played,

714
03:27:23,131 --> 03:27:25,176
the sort of hate
yourself, low esteem,

715
03:27:25,200 --> 03:27:26,658
I'd played a couple
of prisoners,

716
03:27:26,682 --> 03:27:29,107
and stuff like that,
and mixed up kids.

717
03:27:29,131 --> 03:27:30,131
Very intense.

718
03:27:36,889 --> 03:27:38,176
"Blood Rage" operates in a world

719
03:27:38,200 --> 03:27:42,658
where it's the family
Thanksgiving and murder.

720
03:27:42,682 --> 03:27:43,831
Looks like you're
gonna get a chance

721
03:27:43,855 --> 03:27:45,624
to meet the rest of the family.

722
03:27:45,648 --> 03:27:47,924
My psychotic brother
just escaped.

723
03:27:49,165 --> 03:27:50,727
It's the turkey
and killing people.

724
03:27:50,751 --> 03:27:52,210
It's rich.

725
03:27:52,234 --> 03:27:56,900
I'd say that this big
bird is ready for carving.

726
03:27:56,924 --> 03:27:59,693
Why does this make me so crazy?

727
03:27:59,717 --> 03:28:01,762
Time to eat, let's all sit down.

728
03:28:01,786 --> 03:28:03,244
It's time for dinner.

729
03:28:03,268 --> 03:28:04,958
Look what the cat brought in!

730
03:28:11,648 --> 03:28:15,451
Louise Lasser gives
110% in that movie.

731
03:28:15,475 --> 03:28:17,176
She's incredible.

732
03:28:17,200 --> 03:28:20,176
She was, god bless
her, a force of nature.

733
03:28:20,200 --> 03:28:22,624
Mary Hartman was
seminal TV, man.

734
03:28:22,648 --> 03:28:24,313
That was hot stuff.

735
03:28:24,337 --> 03:28:27,141
You know, murder with
no reason, or no motive,

736
03:28:27,165 --> 03:28:29,382
I mean really senseless,
when you think about it.

737
03:28:29,406 --> 03:28:31,762
Do you think this is too
spicy, or not spicy enough?

738
03:28:31,786 --> 03:28:34,038
She set the tone
for "Nightmare Mom".

739
03:28:34,062 --> 03:28:36,313
She creates the
world for the film

740
03:28:36,337 --> 03:28:37,337
Oh please.

741
03:28:40,027 --> 03:28:42,165
Please don't do this to me.

742
03:28:43,544 --> 03:28:45,417
She had that
voice, she would just

743
03:28:45,441 --> 03:28:48,141
get into these states.

744
03:28:48,165 --> 03:28:50,210
She was transformed.

745
03:28:50,234 --> 03:28:52,313
Come give mommy a kiss.

746
03:28:52,337 --> 03:28:54,313
That scene around
the refrigerator?

747
03:28:54,337 --> 03:28:55,555
I mean, come on.

748
03:28:55,579 --> 03:28:58,072
This is a woman who's
freaking out over food.

749
03:28:58,096 --> 03:29:00,244
And it's so over the top.

750
03:29:00,268 --> 03:29:02,727
I've been calling
you and calling you!

751
03:29:02,751 --> 03:29:05,486
Why didn't you answer the phone?

752
03:29:05,510 --> 03:29:06,658
Todd's here!

753
03:29:06,682 --> 03:29:08,279
And he's killing again!

754
03:29:08,303 --> 03:29:09,280
She was bringing it.

755
03:29:09,304 --> 03:29:11,038
She got an applause on the set,

756
03:29:11,062 --> 03:29:13,200
and I've only been
around that a few times.

757
03:29:17,200 --> 03:29:18,382
It's bananas.

758
03:29:18,406 --> 03:29:21,072
It's a movie where
no one in the movie

759
03:29:21,096 --> 03:29:23,382
is making the same movie as
anyone else in the movie.

760
03:29:23,406 --> 03:29:25,658
They're all singing
in their own key,

761
03:29:25,682 --> 03:29:27,107
and the movie's all
the better for it.

762
03:29:27,131 --> 03:29:28,820
It's unhinged, it's delightful.

763
03:29:34,855 --> 03:29:36,969
Shooting a melodrama
like "Blood Rage"

764
03:29:36,993 --> 03:29:38,520
is a whole different thing.

765
03:29:38,544 --> 03:29:40,589
You can tear up the furniture.

766
03:29:40,613 --> 03:29:45,406
You can do crazy stuff you
just don't normally get to do.

767
03:29:50,096 --> 03:29:51,382
It's horror, low budget horror.

768
03:29:51,406 --> 03:29:53,107
But this had a building audience

769
03:29:53,131 --> 03:29:54,900
and a genre that had legs.

770
03:29:54,924 --> 03:29:56,038
It was like heavy metal, man.

771
03:29:56,062 --> 03:29:57,993
This ain't going away.

772
03:30:00,648 --> 03:30:01,279
This is gonna be a
decades long thing.

773
03:30:01,303 --> 03:30:02,303
Get used to it.

774
03:30:03,200 --> 03:30:04,820
It's not cranberry sauce, Artie.

775
03:30:07,303 --> 03:30:09,303
It's not cranberry sauce.

776
03:30:15,234 --> 03:30:18,924
They have opened "The Gate".

777
03:30:19,820 --> 03:30:21,658
Pray it's not too late.

778
03:30:21,682 --> 03:30:23,831
One of the greatest
things about "The Gate"

779
03:30:23,855 --> 03:30:25,762
is that for a lot of
kids at that time,

780
03:30:25,786 --> 03:30:28,589
it became their
gateway horror movie,

781
03:30:28,613 --> 03:30:30,969
because it felt
like a kids movie

782
03:30:30,993 --> 03:30:34,382
that didn't play by
the kids movies rules.

783
03:30:34,406 --> 03:30:35,349
Already filled it in.

784
03:30:35,373 --> 03:30:37,244
Whoa, whoa!

785
03:30:37,268 --> 03:30:39,072
"The Gate" is
about a group of kids

786
03:30:39,096 --> 03:30:40,727
that dig a hole
in their backyard,

787
03:30:40,751 --> 03:30:42,958
and find demons.

788
03:30:44,165 --> 03:30:45,210
Hi.

789
03:30:45,234 --> 03:30:46,234
Hey.

790
03:30:50,544 --> 03:30:52,210
It's a PG-13 horror film.

791
03:30:52,234 --> 03:30:53,796
I always saw it as a film

792
03:30:53,820 --> 03:30:55,796
that the whole
family could watch,

793
03:30:55,820 --> 03:30:58,865
that adults could
be sort of nostalgic

794
03:30:58,889 --> 03:31:02,176
about growing up, and kids
could find an adventure in it.

795
03:31:02,400 --> 03:31:03,582
Sacrifices.

796
03:31:03,606 --> 03:31:05,479
We had so much fun
making that movie,

797
03:31:05,503 --> 03:31:07,307
even though it was
very difficult.

798
03:31:07,331 --> 03:31:08,548
You know, money was short.

799
03:31:08,572 --> 03:31:10,651
All those people put
their heart into it.

800
03:31:10,675 --> 03:31:14,020
The actors, the writers,
the special effects people.

801
03:31:18,641 --> 03:31:22,376
We were able to pull the
most out of everybody.

802
03:31:22,400 --> 03:31:24,986
The album, backwards!

803
03:31:26,262 --> 03:31:28,100
Tells you how to close the gate.

804
03:31:28,124 --> 03:31:31,479
It's like the first heavy
metal horror movie for kids.

805
03:31:31,503 --> 03:31:33,031
They got their
lyrics from this thing

806
03:31:33,055 --> 03:31:34,124
called the Dark Book.

807
03:31:35,055 --> 03:31:36,686
It's like the Bible for demons.

808
03:31:36,710 --> 03:31:37,996
So you have somebody like Tibor,

809
03:31:38,020 --> 03:31:39,962
who had a background working

810
03:31:39,986 --> 03:31:41,720
in heavy metal music videos

811
03:31:41,744 --> 03:31:44,444
coming in and being
able to infuse that

812
03:31:44,468 --> 03:31:47,813
into this kids movie
is pretty astounding.

813
03:31:49,986 --> 03:31:52,824
It's always much
scarier when horror

814
03:31:52,848 --> 03:31:55,675
comes into the normal world.

815
03:31:57,744 --> 03:31:59,755
Stephen Dorff was
just so cool to me

816
03:31:59,779 --> 03:32:01,169
when I was a kid.

817
03:32:01,193 --> 03:32:03,513
It seemed like something
that could happen to me.

818
03:32:03,537 --> 03:32:04,962
I could look down in my backyard

819
03:32:04,986 --> 03:32:06,789
and I was always sure
there was the potential

820
03:32:06,813 --> 03:32:09,365
for a portal, monsters.

821
03:32:14,882 --> 03:32:17,203
I always feel kids
can make great actors

822
03:32:17,227 --> 03:32:20,410
if you can key into them,
you treat them like adults.

823
03:32:20,434 --> 03:32:21,893
When they're in the
right frame of mind,

824
03:32:21,917 --> 03:32:23,376
you can do amazing things,

825
03:32:23,400 --> 03:32:25,272
and get very real performances.

826
03:32:25,296 --> 03:32:26,755
We have to close the gate.

827
03:32:26,779 --> 03:32:28,617
We have to go to the
hole and do it right.

828
03:32:28,641 --> 03:32:31,065
You mean you guys were
serious about that demon stuff?

829
03:32:31,089 --> 03:32:32,996
The main theme
of "The Gate" to me

830
03:32:33,020 --> 03:32:37,134
is sibling relationships
and friendship

831
03:32:37,158 --> 03:32:40,031
to overcome insurmountable odds.

832
03:32:40,055 --> 03:32:41,572
You need your friends.

833
03:32:45,227 --> 03:32:46,927
I think of all the
effects that they were

834
03:32:46,951 --> 03:32:49,779
able to do in that movie
courtesy of Randall William Cook.

835
03:32:54,848 --> 03:32:56,100
I was already reading Fangoria

836
03:32:56,124 --> 03:32:57,962
and I was into the
effect part of it,

837
03:32:57,986 --> 03:33:00,238
like the technical part
of horror filmmaking.

838
03:33:00,262 --> 03:33:03,134
I knew that we would have to
use an encyclopedia of effects.

839
03:33:03,158 --> 03:33:05,548
There was no one solution
to all that stuff.

840
03:33:05,572 --> 03:33:08,238
And thank goodness
that Randy was so good

841
03:33:08,262 --> 03:33:10,262
at all of those things.

842
03:33:14,193 --> 03:33:15,858
When the workman falls over
and breaks into the minions,

843
03:33:15,882 --> 03:33:19,307
that to me is like a
seminal important moment

844
03:33:19,331 --> 03:33:21,065
in the movie where you go wow.

845
03:33:21,089 --> 03:33:22,917
Even I go wow.

846
03:33:25,917 --> 03:33:29,341
But it is still cool as
hell to watch that sequence,

847
03:33:29,365 --> 03:33:31,376
and I wish we got more movies

848
03:33:31,400 --> 03:33:33,203
that tried to do stuff
like that more these days.

849
03:33:33,227 --> 03:33:35,617
Like, I don't care if
it looks a little dated.

850
03:33:35,641 --> 03:33:36,549
I don't.

851
03:33:36,573 --> 03:33:37,813
Because it's still magic to me.

852
03:33:39,089 --> 03:33:41,031
It's like a bespoke movie.

853
03:33:41,055 --> 03:33:42,444
It's handmade.

854
03:33:42,468 --> 03:33:44,031
It's kind of rough around
the edges that way.

855
03:33:44,055 --> 03:33:45,996
That's what draws people to it.

856
03:33:46,020 --> 03:33:48,020
They can see the love
that went into it.

857
03:33:58,882 --> 03:34:00,755
"Rock 'n' Roll
Nightmare" is the story

858
03:34:00,779 --> 03:34:04,962
of a band called The
Tritons, led by Thor,

859
03:34:04,986 --> 03:34:09,100
who was a very popular
wrestler, rock and roller.

860
03:34:09,124 --> 03:34:11,410
He was very popular
up in Canada.

861
03:34:11,434 --> 03:34:15,651
So this band comes to
this tiny little farmhouse

862
03:34:15,675 --> 03:34:17,513
on the outskirts of Toronto

863
03:34:17,537 --> 03:34:20,238
to record their new album.

864
03:34:20,262 --> 03:34:21,755
It's kind of like a vacation.

865
03:34:21,779 --> 03:34:24,031
I like it.

866
03:34:24,055 --> 03:34:24,858
You would.

867
03:34:24,882 --> 03:34:25,687
Come on you two.

868
03:34:25,711 --> 03:34:26,962
Don't start.

869
03:34:26,986 --> 03:34:28,341
It turns out that
they are in a house

870
03:34:28,365 --> 03:34:31,331
that had been possessed.

871
03:34:34,365 --> 03:34:36,789
And one by one, they
start being killed off

872
03:34:36,813 --> 03:34:38,331
by these demos.

873
03:34:42,848 --> 03:34:43,893
Kind of this quirky movie

874
03:34:43,917 --> 03:34:45,686
directed by John Fasano.

875
03:34:45,710 --> 03:34:47,307
It's hard to call
these things demons.

876
03:34:47,331 --> 03:34:48,365
They're puppets.

877
03:34:49,951 --> 03:34:51,031
I can destroy and destruct-

878
03:34:52,572 --> 03:34:56,376
Demons that are rejects
from Fraggle Rock.

879
03:34:56,400 --> 03:34:59,272
We talked so much
about the glorious age

880
03:34:59,296 --> 03:35:01,272
of practical effects of the 80s,

881
03:35:01,296 --> 03:35:05,055
but sometimes, they
were not so glorious.

882
03:35:10,503 --> 03:35:12,134
My favorite monster effect

883
03:35:12,158 --> 03:35:14,996
in "Rock 'n' Roll Nightmare"
is one that I did.

884
03:35:15,020 --> 03:35:16,331
The chicken monster.

885
03:35:18,641 --> 03:35:20,824
That was a really fun
project to work on.

886
03:35:20,848 --> 03:35:22,813
And then I got to puppeteer it.

887
03:35:27,293 --> 03:35:29,613
Jon Thor is a sweetheart.

888
03:35:29,637 --> 03:35:31,027
He's always so positive.

889
03:35:31,051 --> 03:35:32,751
He was up for anything.

890
03:35:32,775 --> 03:35:35,441
♪ You get me any day

891
03:35:35,465 --> 03:35:36,648
♪ Energy

892
03:35:36,672 --> 03:35:39,407
It was November,
and we had that wind

893
03:35:39,431 --> 03:35:41,165
coming off of Lake Ontario,

894
03:35:41,189 --> 03:35:43,441
hitting you like a brick wall.

895
03:35:43,465 --> 03:35:45,096
This house that we
were shooting in,

896
03:35:45,120 --> 03:35:48,200
which had no electricity,
had no hot water,

897
03:35:48,224 --> 03:35:51,476
and they're in a shower,
buck naked in this shower,

898
03:35:51,500 --> 03:35:54,131
freezing to death.

899
03:35:54,155 --> 03:35:56,855
I mean, that water was ice cold.

900
03:35:56,879 --> 03:36:00,017
But the ending is
not to be missed.

901
03:36:03,258 --> 03:36:06,441
I walked onto set, and
I saw Jon standing there

902
03:36:06,465 --> 03:36:10,131
in this little gold
Speedo, and codpiece,

903
03:36:10,155 --> 03:36:12,682
and this gold lame cape.

904
03:36:12,706 --> 03:36:13,958
And at one point, I looked over,

905
03:36:13,982 --> 03:36:16,303
and I could see his
cape was starting

906
03:36:16,327 --> 03:36:18,441
to spark and catch fire.

907
03:36:18,465 --> 03:36:19,958
Oh my god, that would have been

908
03:36:19,982 --> 03:36:22,913
just the icing on
the cake for sure.

909
03:36:25,120 --> 03:36:27,372
Of course, you gotta love
the big devil at the end.

910
03:36:27,396 --> 03:36:29,500
It was a disaster.

911
03:36:30,637 --> 03:36:31,889
Nice effect, Randy.

912
03:36:31,913 --> 03:36:33,544
It weighed 50 pounds at least.

913
03:36:33,568 --> 03:36:35,544
And it was so unwieldy.

914
03:36:35,568 --> 03:36:37,362
It was just a mess.

915
03:36:38,500 --> 03:36:40,062
But of course that's
the scene that everybody

916
03:36:40,086 --> 03:36:43,165
loves the most in that movie,
because it's so outrageous.

917
03:36:43,189 --> 03:36:45,327
Like you have to see
this to believe it.

918
03:36:58,706 --> 03:37:00,924
"Jaws" follows in a
line of horror films

919
03:37:00,948 --> 03:37:04,086
where nature is out to kill you.

920
03:37:06,500 --> 03:37:09,820
"Jaws: The Revenge".

921
03:37:09,844 --> 03:37:12,682
It's just the idea
that meeting a shark

922
03:37:12,706 --> 03:37:14,338
face to face in the water

923
03:37:14,362 --> 03:37:18,293
is more likely than finding
Jason Voorhees in the water.

924
03:37:19,741 --> 03:37:21,476
The Jaws sequels were
never like the first movie,

925
03:37:21,500 --> 03:37:23,338
and so anytime they
sequelize something,

926
03:37:23,362 --> 03:37:25,476
it was like, oh god,
what are they gonna do?

927
03:37:25,500 --> 03:37:28,269
Lorraine Gary,
who once again stars

928
03:37:28,293 --> 03:37:30,613
as Chief Brody's
wife, now a widow,

929
03:37:30,637 --> 03:37:32,786
she travels to the Bahamas,

930
03:37:32,810 --> 03:37:34,579
and what do you know?

931
03:37:34,603 --> 03:37:37,706
That goddam shark
is still after her.

932
03:37:46,017 --> 03:37:48,648
And she's convinced
that the shark

933
03:37:48,672 --> 03:37:50,648
is following her family,

934
03:37:50,672 --> 03:37:53,544
and she seems to have
some telepathic link

935
03:37:53,568 --> 03:37:55,086
with the shark.

936
03:37:58,431 --> 03:38:01,120
It's such a far cry from
Spielberg's original.

937
03:38:02,982 --> 03:38:05,786
Just like the idea of a
shark being a slasher movie

938
03:38:05,810 --> 03:38:08,924
villain that's gonna
follow these people

939
03:38:08,948 --> 03:38:12,269
from Amity Island
to the Bahamas.

940
03:38:12,293 --> 03:38:15,027
It has a grudge against
the Brody family.

941
03:38:15,051 --> 03:38:17,303
It's just absolutely ridiculous.

942
03:38:17,327 --> 03:38:18,958
- Their family-
- What shark is this?

943
03:38:18,982 --> 03:38:20,269
A friend of the other shark.

944
03:38:20,293 --> 03:38:21,510
Is this like a cousin, a nephew?

945
03:38:21,534 --> 03:38:22,477
You got it.

946
03:38:22,501 --> 03:38:23,544
They just

947
03:38:23,568 --> 03:38:25,407
put that movie
together, really quick.

948
03:38:25,431 --> 03:38:27,338
They cast all of us
before they even made

949
03:38:27,362 --> 03:38:29,613
the arrangements with
the special effects guys.

950
03:38:29,637 --> 03:38:31,855
They kind of did them
almost at the last minute,

951
03:38:31,879 --> 03:38:33,269
and they were like,
wait a minute.

952
03:38:33,293 --> 03:38:36,062
We can't do this, what
you wrote in the script.

953
03:38:36,086 --> 03:38:37,786
We can do something like this,

954
03:38:37,810 --> 03:38:39,476
but we can't do that.

955
03:38:39,500 --> 03:38:41,855
So they had to
rewrite the scripts.

956
03:38:41,879 --> 03:38:43,338
I got a script that I thought

957
03:38:43,362 --> 03:38:44,648
oh, this is a pretty
good script, you know?

958
03:38:44,672 --> 03:38:46,165
I believe it, I play this guy.

959
03:38:46,189 --> 03:38:47,717
Everything this guy
does makes sense.

960
03:38:47,741 --> 03:38:49,165
This is not gonna be stupid.

961
03:38:49,189 --> 03:38:50,613
It's gonna be great.

962
03:38:50,637 --> 03:38:52,338
About three days before
we started shooting,

963
03:38:52,362 --> 03:38:53,958
I get a new script

964
03:38:54,082 --> 03:38:56,265
that accommodates all
the technical stuff

965
03:38:56,289 --> 03:38:58,438
that can be done.

966
03:38:58,462 --> 03:39:01,093
For me, was like, oh god.

967
03:39:01,117 --> 03:39:03,058
I couldn't make sense of it,

968
03:39:03,082 --> 03:39:04,841
so I was pissed
off all the time.

969
03:39:06,255 --> 03:39:08,886
We were like that, you just
try not to make it unbelievable

970
03:39:08,910 --> 03:39:10,910
and it's hard.

971
03:39:16,148 --> 03:39:18,941
I didn't know sharks
sound like that.

972
03:39:20,872 --> 03:39:22,148
Jesus Christ!

973
03:39:25,355 --> 03:39:27,503
What's great about
it is Christmas.

974
03:39:27,527 --> 03:39:29,055
Who saw that coming?

975
03:39:29,079 --> 03:39:32,365
Like, "Jaws 4: The
Revenge", Christmas Jaws.

976
03:39:32,389 --> 03:39:34,365
♪ The first noel

977
03:39:34,389 --> 03:39:36,055
♪ The angels

978
03:39:36,079 --> 03:39:37,676
We blew through
most of the acting

979
03:39:37,700 --> 03:39:40,193
in three weeks in that movie.

980
03:39:40,317 --> 03:39:42,258
I was on that movie
for five months.

981
03:39:42,282 --> 03:39:45,327
So there was a lot of
sitting out in the ocean.

982
03:39:45,351 --> 03:39:48,534
We spent months
sitting doing nothing

983
03:39:48,558 --> 03:39:50,041
because the shark didn't work.

984
03:39:51,213 --> 03:39:52,396
We were shooting this one scene,

985
03:39:52,420 --> 03:39:54,569
and it was in a little,
little tiny rowboat.

986
03:39:54,593 --> 03:39:56,051
The whole boat goes down.

987
03:39:56,075 --> 03:39:58,707
The battery pack that
powers the camera

988
03:39:58,731 --> 03:40:01,672
is encased in plastic,
but it might leak.

989
03:40:01,696 --> 03:40:04,776
So as soon as that
becomes submerged,

990
03:40:04,800 --> 03:40:07,776
this hand grabs me by the shirt

991
03:40:07,800 --> 03:40:09,982
with one hand, yanks
me out of the boat.

992
03:40:10,006 --> 03:40:10,914
It was Michael Caine.

993
03:40:10,938 --> 03:40:13,155
Get the fuck out of that boat!

994
03:40:13,179 --> 03:40:14,534
I mean, I don't know that I
would have been electrocuted,

995
03:40:14,558 --> 03:40:16,327
but that's what he was thinking.

996
03:40:16,351 --> 03:40:18,120
So he just acted like that.

997
03:40:18,144 --> 03:40:19,879
Hang onto your socks, lads.

998
03:40:19,903 --> 03:40:22,558
Michael Caine saved my life.

999
03:40:23,765 --> 03:40:27,662
Oh shit!

1000
03:40:35,317 --> 03:40:37,224
Even if you kill them,

1001
03:40:37,248 --> 03:40:39,662
they're still deadly.

1002
03:40:41,455 --> 03:40:42,465
"Creepozoids".

1003
03:40:42,489 --> 03:40:44,603
Fun movie, little TNA

1004
03:40:44,627 --> 03:40:46,741
with a wonderful
director, David DeCoteau,

1005
03:40:46,765 --> 03:40:49,317
who remains one of
my closest friends.

1006
03:40:54,179 --> 03:40:59,075
"Creepozoids" is a very,
very, very low budget alien.

1007
03:41:02,110 --> 03:41:04,534
It was really fun,
because we did it in,

1008
03:41:04,558 --> 03:41:07,776
which then, was really
quick, seven days.

1009
03:41:07,800 --> 03:41:10,258
This place may not have all
the comforts of civilization.

1010
03:41:10,282 --> 03:41:12,189
Civilization doesn't
have all the comforts

1011
03:41:12,213 --> 03:41:14,396
of civilization anymore.

1012
03:41:14,420 --> 03:41:15,328
That's just my point.

1013
03:41:15,352 --> 03:41:17,948
There's this horrible thing

1014
03:41:17,972 --> 03:41:20,741
out after us that was
not from this earth,

1015
03:41:20,765 --> 03:41:22,903
and it's killing us one by one.

1016
03:41:30,765 --> 03:41:34,155
When you are doing
low budget things,

1017
03:41:34,179 --> 03:41:37,017
the monsters are
usually very fragile.

1018
03:41:37,041 --> 03:41:39,776
You had to be very
careful of these monsters.

1019
03:41:39,800 --> 03:41:43,431
So you're battling,
but holding back too,

1020
03:41:43,455 --> 03:41:45,248
because you could break them.

1021
03:41:50,248 --> 03:41:52,017
My mom came to set,

1022
03:41:52,041 --> 03:41:54,293
and both of us are
afraid of rats.

1023
03:41:54,317 --> 03:41:55,396
So what do they have?

1024
03:41:55,420 --> 03:41:58,179
These huge rats.

1025
03:42:05,558 --> 03:42:07,431
It didn't look bad,
that baby mutant,

1026
03:42:07,455 --> 03:42:09,489
but it was kind of silly.

1027
03:42:12,489 --> 03:42:15,844
It was a fun adventure,
because that was the first time

1028
03:42:15,868 --> 03:42:19,672
I really got to fight,
and be like, no makeup,

1029
03:42:19,696 --> 03:42:21,317
and a soldier.

1030
03:42:22,800 --> 03:42:26,844
I did, in "Creepozoids",
had to battle a stunt person,

1031
03:42:26,868 --> 03:42:29,293
which was interesting,
because they go all out

1032
03:42:29,317 --> 03:42:30,844
I'm like oh, I'm
gonna get killed.

1033
03:42:30,868 --> 03:42:32,386
I'm gonna get hurt.

1034
03:42:35,282 --> 03:42:37,810
Linnea and I go
back to a movie I made

1035
03:42:37,834 --> 03:42:39,707
1000 years before that,
which is hard to believe,

1036
03:42:39,731 --> 03:42:41,776
called "Fairytales",
and before that,

1037
03:42:41,800 --> 03:42:43,913
a movie called "Auditions".

1038
03:42:43,937 --> 03:42:45,189
It became apparent that most

1039
03:42:45,213 --> 03:42:47,776
of the female applicants
were non-professionals.

1040
03:42:47,800 --> 03:42:50,120
The whole idea was
they would come in,

1041
03:42:50,144 --> 03:42:52,776
sign a release, get
paid I think $10,

1042
03:42:52,800 --> 03:42:55,155
because we made it clear
that their audition

1043
03:42:55,179 --> 03:42:56,844
was gonna be used in the movie.

1044
03:42:56,868 --> 03:42:58,500
And the girls had to
take their tops off,

1045
03:42:58,524 --> 03:43:00,638
because they had
to be kind of sexy

1046
03:43:00,662 --> 03:43:02,017
fairy godmother, Cinderella.

1047
03:43:02,041 --> 03:43:03,707
I forget the story.

1048
03:43:03,731 --> 03:43:05,500
Many years later,
suddenly she's back

1049
03:43:05,524 --> 03:43:07,879
as a more mature
still very young woman

1050
03:43:07,903 --> 03:43:09,913
in the lead of "Creepozoids".

1051
03:43:09,937 --> 03:43:12,362
When I did "Creepozoids",
this one girl

1052
03:43:12,386 --> 03:43:14,913
would not do a topless scene.

1053
03:43:14,937 --> 03:43:16,396
She was such a prude, I thought.

1054
03:43:16,420 --> 03:43:18,948
And she was doing all
this backstory on herself,

1055
03:43:18,972 --> 03:43:21,293
like who is my mother,
who is my father.

1056
03:43:21,317 --> 03:43:24,293
On a $60,000 film.

1057
03:43:24,317 --> 03:43:26,051
But she went on to big things.

1058
03:43:26,075 --> 03:43:28,017
She became a porn star.

1059
03:43:28,041 --> 03:43:29,948
And I was like, wait a minute.

1060
03:43:29,972 --> 03:43:31,120
You wouldn't take off your top.

1061
03:43:31,144 --> 03:43:32,603
Now you're a porn star.

1062
03:43:32,627 --> 03:43:35,558
Let's not turn this into
a slumber party, okay?

1063
03:43:52,868 --> 03:43:54,982
"Zombie Nightmare" is
the story of a young man

1064
03:43:55,006 --> 03:43:58,017
who is murdered,
run over with a car

1065
03:43:58,041 --> 03:44:00,144
by these bunch of teenagers.

1066
03:44:03,282 --> 03:44:06,086
His mother goes
to a voodoo woman

1067
03:44:06,110 --> 03:44:07,534
to bring him back to life

1068
03:44:07,558 --> 03:44:10,396
to take revenge on these kids,

1069
03:44:10,420 --> 03:44:11,800
these spoiled brats.

1070
03:44:13,179 --> 03:44:14,156
See look, I told you.

1071
03:44:14,180 --> 03:44:15,386
There's nobody here.

1072
03:44:19,524 --> 03:44:22,672
At the same time,
there are two detectives

1073
03:44:22,696 --> 03:44:24,224
working to try to figure out

1074
03:44:24,248 --> 03:44:26,189
who's killing these kids.

1075
03:44:26,213 --> 03:44:28,120
Let's not have any
more high school kids

1076
03:44:28,144 --> 03:44:29,465
turn up dead.

1077
03:44:29,489 --> 03:44:30,672
Understand?

1078
03:44:30,696 --> 03:44:33,810
The script was
actually much better

1079
03:44:33,834 --> 03:44:37,741
than the final film, that
John Fasano wrote, by the way.

1080
03:44:37,765 --> 03:44:40,776
It was about racial
tensions, also.

1081
03:44:40,800 --> 03:44:41,708
Pretty young thing
has just walked

1082
03:44:41,732 --> 03:44:43,155
into the wrong neighborhood.

1083
03:44:43,179 --> 03:44:45,189
I do believe you're
right, Mr. Barnes.

1084
03:44:45,213 --> 03:44:46,396
Hey, don't be so uptight-

1085
03:44:46,420 --> 03:44:48,603
I went to Montreal
with Adam West.

1086
03:44:48,627 --> 03:44:49,948
It was surreal.

1087
03:44:49,972 --> 03:44:51,638
It was like, I
can't believe this.

1088
03:44:51,662 --> 03:44:54,327
I'm acting in a monster movie

1089
03:44:54,351 --> 03:44:56,155
with my childhood hero.

1090
03:44:56,179 --> 03:44:57,179
Come on, Frank.

1091
03:44:58,179 --> 03:44:59,627
I'll buy you a drink.

1092
03:45:00,558 --> 03:45:02,776
Jon Thor, he actually replaced

1093
03:45:02,800 --> 03:45:06,155
the original zombie actor
in "Zombie Nightmare".

1094
03:45:06,179 --> 03:45:09,776
We actually filmed the
end of the movie first

1095
03:45:09,800 --> 03:45:13,465
so the zombie was still played
by Peewee, the stuntman.

1096
03:45:13,489 --> 03:45:15,593
And he's big guy.

1097
03:45:20,593 --> 03:45:24,155
I'm the young detective,
and I arrive at this garage,

1098
03:45:24,179 --> 03:45:26,362
and I get there
just in time to see

1099
03:45:26,386 --> 03:45:28,569
the zombie kill Tia Carrere.

1100
03:45:28,593 --> 03:45:29,948
Right?

1101
03:45:29,972 --> 03:45:30,777
Police!

1102
03:45:30,801 --> 03:45:32,075
Hands in the air!

1103
03:45:34,351 --> 03:45:36,948
He knocks the gun aside,

1104
03:45:36,972 --> 03:45:38,189
and picks me up by the throat,

1105
03:45:38,213 --> 03:45:40,317
and then throws me onto a car.

1106
03:45:43,041 --> 03:45:44,396
It's my first movie.

1107
03:45:44,420 --> 03:45:45,672
I'm fighting a monster.

1108
03:45:45,696 --> 03:45:47,731
This is what I wanted
my whole life, right?

1109
03:45:49,075 --> 03:45:51,293
Mystery Science Theater
discovering "Zombie Nightmare"

1110
03:45:51,317 --> 03:45:55,396
definitely saved that movie
from disappearing forever.

1111
03:45:55,420 --> 03:45:57,189
It's called "Zombie Nightmare",

1112
03:45:57,213 --> 03:46:00,006
and it stars Adam West and...

1113
03:46:02,317 --> 03:46:05,017
There's a scene when one
of the zombie characters

1114
03:46:05,041 --> 03:46:06,982
is essentially dying.

1115
03:46:07,006 --> 03:46:09,500
His mouth is open, and
his eyes have sunken back,

1116
03:46:09,524 --> 03:46:12,707
and there's all of this
mist coming out of him.

1117
03:46:12,731 --> 03:46:14,569
At the time I thought, oh wow.

1118
03:46:14,593 --> 03:46:16,293
That really looks good.

1119
03:46:16,317 --> 03:46:19,638
Maybe this is gonna be good.

1120
03:46:19,662 --> 03:46:22,913
I had hope, anyway.

1121
03:46:22,937 --> 03:46:23,777
Kill me!

1122
03:46:23,801 --> 03:46:25,086
Kill me, Frank!

1123
03:46:25,110 --> 03:46:26,317
Frank!

1124
03:46:36,834 --> 03:46:39,120
"The Video Dead".

1125
03:46:39,144 --> 03:46:42,465
I love "Video Dead", because
it does something different

1126
03:46:42,489 --> 03:46:44,179
with the zombie genre.

1127
03:46:47,489 --> 03:46:51,534
We're given this weird
nightmarish suburbia,

1128
03:46:51,558 --> 03:46:53,913
where these zombies
are killing people,

1129
03:46:54,137 --> 03:46:57,320
but they all have a story.

1130
03:46:57,344 --> 03:46:58,562
They try to live.

1131
03:46:58,586 --> 03:47:00,000
Like, they try to adapt.

1132
03:47:03,379 --> 03:47:05,907
You have this haunted
TV that gets delivered.

1133
03:47:06,031 --> 03:47:07,558
And initially it
goes to a writer

1134
03:47:07,582 --> 03:47:08,731
in the opening of the film,

1135
03:47:08,755 --> 03:47:10,351
who's played by
Michael St. Michaels,

1136
03:47:10,375 --> 03:47:11,765
who would eventually
go on to become

1137
03:47:11,789 --> 03:47:13,065
the Greasy Strangler.

1138
03:47:14,444 --> 03:47:18,282
The TV somehow is a portal
for this zombie movie,

1139
03:47:18,306 --> 03:47:21,341
but also real zombies as well.

1140
03:47:22,927 --> 03:47:25,179
That's the first movie
I've ever died twice in,

1141
03:47:25,203 --> 03:47:26,582
and one time I killed me.

1142
03:47:27,996 --> 03:47:31,007
When I shot it, I was the
first 20 minutes of the film.

1143
03:47:31,031 --> 03:47:32,869
The distributor
didn't want that,

1144
03:47:32,893 --> 03:47:35,524
so they took out a
bunch of my scenes.

1145
03:47:35,548 --> 03:47:37,834
The hardest thing I
did in "The Video Dead"

1146
03:47:37,858 --> 03:47:39,179
was being dead.

1147
03:47:39,203 --> 03:47:41,007
That scene where
they open the door.

1148
03:47:41,031 --> 03:47:42,903
We had to do that
two or three times

1149
03:47:42,927 --> 03:47:45,548
because I could
not stop shivering.

1150
03:47:46,444 --> 03:47:47,662
Holy shit!

1151
03:47:47,686 --> 03:47:48,731
A few days later,
they called me up

1152
03:47:48,755 --> 03:47:50,317
and said would I be interested

1153
03:47:50,341 --> 03:47:52,834
in being in the movie some more?

1154
03:47:52,858 --> 03:47:55,386
I came back as Jack the Zombie.

1155
03:47:55,410 --> 03:47:59,213
The actor who originally played
Jack the Zombie had died.

1156
03:47:59,237 --> 03:48:00,869
I don't know how or why,

1157
03:48:00,893 --> 03:48:02,351
so they had a vacancy, and I was

1158
03:48:02,375 --> 03:48:05,100
the right height and weight.

1159
03:48:07,858 --> 03:48:10,144
All those zombies
had personality.

1160
03:48:10,168 --> 03:48:12,524
They weren't just eating brains

1161
03:48:12,548 --> 03:48:15,007
for the sake of eating brains.

1162
03:48:15,031 --> 03:48:16,144
They were going places.

1163
03:48:16,168 --> 03:48:17,306
They were doing things.

1164
03:48:20,582 --> 03:48:22,317
Those are some of the
best zombies we have

1165
03:48:22,341 --> 03:48:24,282
of the entire 1980s decade.

1166
03:48:24,306 --> 03:48:27,755
The bride zombie, she's doing
all these domestic things.

1167
03:48:31,582 --> 03:48:35,627
And then you have the rockabilly
Flock of Seagulls zombie,

1168
03:48:35,851 --> 03:48:38,817
who's kind of like the
ladies man of the zombies.

1169
03:48:43,955 --> 03:48:47,724
My favorite scene is when
I'm the way too cool zombie.

1170
03:48:47,748 --> 03:48:52,034
Yes, I like you, you know?

1171
03:48:52,058 --> 03:48:54,782
I could tell I really
creeped her out.

1172
03:48:56,541 --> 03:48:59,000
I really enjoyed working
with Robert Scott.

1173
03:48:59,024 --> 03:49:00,862
He really didn't
want anybody to know

1174
03:49:00,886 --> 03:49:04,748
that that film had
only cost $35,000.

1175
03:49:05,920 --> 03:49:08,103
It was shot on video,
transferred to film,

1176
03:49:08,127 --> 03:49:11,782
and then transferred back
to video again.

1177
03:49:16,093 --> 03:49:18,517
It was generating a nice
amount of money here and there,

1178
03:49:18,541 --> 03:49:21,896
prior to Avco Embassy
going bankrupt.

1179
03:49:21,920 --> 03:49:24,541
People were impressed
that I was in it.

1180
03:49:25,782 --> 03:49:27,379
I didn't have to pay
for video rentals

1181
03:49:27,403 --> 03:49:28,989
in a couple video stores.

1182
03:49:30,403 --> 03:49:32,724
This bar I hung out
at kept me drunk

1183
03:49:32,748 --> 03:49:34,586
for about six months,
because I brought in

1184
03:49:34,610 --> 03:49:38,196
a copy of the thing and showed
it at the bar.

1185
03:49:44,162 --> 03:49:45,241
People look at that
film, and they wonder

1186
03:49:45,265 --> 03:49:46,758
whatever happened to that guy.

1187
03:49:46,782 --> 03:49:50,093
And now they get their answer
in "The Greasy Strangler".

1188
03:50:03,334 --> 03:50:05,448
"Slumber Party Massacre II".

1189
03:50:05,472 --> 03:50:08,276
If you go, don't go all the way.

1190
03:50:08,300 --> 03:50:10,069
Oh god, anybody got any tranqs?

1191
03:50:10,093 --> 03:50:12,827
A lot of us straight boys

1192
03:50:12,851 --> 03:50:15,862
used to wonder in deep thought

1193
03:50:15,886 --> 03:50:17,793
about what must be going on

1194
03:50:17,817 --> 03:50:19,817
when girls are having
a slumber party.

1195
03:50:20,748 --> 03:50:22,724
You look like a big chicken.

1196
03:50:22,748 --> 03:50:23,965
Bawk, bawk, bawk!

1197
03:50:23,989 --> 03:50:25,586
I love the "Slumber
Party Massacre" series.

1198
03:50:25,610 --> 03:50:27,551
They're all written
and directed by women,

1199
03:50:27,575 --> 03:50:30,196
and that shows in the
content of the film.

1200
03:50:37,886 --> 03:50:39,517
One of the cool things about
"Slumber Party Massacre 1"

1201
03:50:39,541 --> 03:50:42,069
is that it's really
satirizing the slasher genre

1202
03:50:42,093 --> 03:50:43,758
at a time when the
conversation around

1203
03:50:43,782 --> 03:50:46,482
whether or not slasher
films were feminist.

1204
03:50:46,506 --> 03:50:49,368
But "Slumber Party Massacre 2"
takes that and runs with it.

1205
03:50:50,231 --> 03:50:51,208
Come on baby!

1206
03:50:51,232 --> 03:50:52,713
We gonna rock and roll!

1207
03:50:54,541 --> 03:50:58,413
"Slumber Party Massacre
2" is actually a meta film.

1208
03:50:58,437 --> 03:51:01,931
A comment on those
kinds of slasher movies,

1209
03:51:01,955 --> 03:51:04,644
at the same time that it is one.

1210
03:51:09,403 --> 03:51:11,551
Plus, it's a musical.

1211
03:51:11,575 --> 03:51:14,276
♪ I love to jam
it to the floor ♪

1212
03:51:14,300 --> 03:51:16,034
♪ Let its wild parts roar

1213
03:51:16,058 --> 03:51:18,724
I was working for Roger Corman,

1214
03:51:18,748 --> 03:51:22,310
and I said Roger, I'd really
like to direct something,

1215
03:51:22,334 --> 03:51:24,758
and he said, okay.

1216
03:51:24,782 --> 03:51:27,689
I have something you
can direct immediately.

1217
03:51:27,713 --> 03:51:31,103
He said "Slumber
Party Massacre II".

1218
03:51:31,127 --> 03:51:34,989
We have to make it, because
I've sold all the rights to it.

1219
03:51:36,472 --> 03:51:37,896
"Slumber Party Massacre
II" is about some girls

1220
03:51:37,920 --> 03:51:41,138
who get away for a slumber
party at a cottage,

1221
03:51:41,162 --> 03:51:45,517
and it's interrupted by a
musical icon serial killer,

1222
03:51:45,541 --> 03:51:47,103
who is going to
sing and kill them

1223
03:51:47,127 --> 03:51:49,300
with his crazy guitar.

1224
03:51:50,541 --> 03:51:52,172
Yoo-hoo!

1225
03:51:52,196 --> 03:51:53,517
I'm home!

1226
03:51:53,541 --> 03:51:55,069
What could be more evil

1227
03:51:55,093 --> 03:51:58,300
than a weaponized
electric guitar?

1228
03:52:00,713 --> 03:52:02,575
To drill poor innocent
victims' heads in?

1229
03:52:04,886 --> 03:52:07,482
I couldn't think of
anything that represented

1230
03:52:07,506 --> 03:52:10,724
the phallic nature of rock music

1231
03:52:10,748 --> 03:52:14,368
any better than a guitar
that had a drill on the end.

1232
03:52:15,610 --> 03:52:17,862
Atanas Ilitch plays
the driller killer.

1233
03:52:17,886 --> 03:52:21,931
And this is Atanas
Ilitch's only album.

1234
03:52:21,955 --> 03:52:26,058
If you look, he's holding
a cat on the back.

1235
03:52:28,782 --> 03:52:32,482
He was full of lots
of enthusiasm and ideas,

1236
03:52:32,506 --> 03:52:35,000
and I didn't have
a choreographer,

1237
03:52:35,024 --> 03:52:39,655
so he and I had to make up his
"Let's Buzz" dance together,

1238
03:52:39,679 --> 03:52:41,276
and the chorus was

1239
03:52:41,300 --> 03:52:43,241
♪ Let's buzz

1240
03:52:43,265 --> 03:52:44,276
He's out there.

1241
03:52:44,300 --> 03:52:45,758
♪ Let's buzz

1242
03:52:45,782 --> 03:52:48,093
It was a sexy song.

1243
03:52:49,265 --> 03:52:52,138
My favorite two things
is the dead chicken

1244
03:52:52,162 --> 03:52:54,276
that jumps out of
the refrigerator

1245
03:52:54,300 --> 03:52:57,103
onto Crystal Bernard's chest,

1246
03:52:57,127 --> 03:53:00,817
and spews weird liquid
out of its cut neck.

1247
03:53:04,955 --> 03:53:07,379
The other one is
they're driving away,

1248
03:53:07,403 --> 03:53:10,655
and the Driller Killer, of
course, is in the backseat,

1249
03:53:10,679 --> 03:53:15,334
and he drills the kid who's
driving through the seat.

1250
03:53:20,058 --> 03:53:24,344
It sold a tremendous
amount of video cassettes

1251
03:53:24,368 --> 03:53:27,310
which was what Roger wanted
to sell at that point.

1252
03:53:27,334 --> 03:53:30,069
He said it made over $6 million

1253
03:53:30,093 --> 03:53:34,034
on a $390,000 budget.

1254
03:53:34,058 --> 03:53:37,069
It actually got
banned in the UK.

1255
03:53:37,393 --> 03:53:39,472
They wrote a letter to Roger

1256
03:53:39,496 --> 03:53:42,920
saying you can't show
this film in the UK

1257
03:53:42,944 --> 03:53:47,576
because it's a particularly
virulent combination

1258
03:53:47,600 --> 03:53:49,772
of sex and violence.

1259
03:53:54,393 --> 03:53:55,920
I wish I had a copy
of that letter.

1260
03:53:55,944 --> 03:53:59,127
They sounded extremely offended.

1261
03:53:59,151 --> 03:54:01,576
The way she broken my heart,

1262
03:54:01,600 --> 03:54:03,713
it made me cry,

1263
03:54:03,737 --> 03:54:06,979
so don't you know
she had to die.

1264
03:54:13,531 --> 03:54:16,162
The 80s, like any
other film decade,

1265
03:54:16,186 --> 03:54:17,886
was about transition.

1266
03:54:17,910 --> 03:54:20,162
I think that there was forward
motion in a lot of fronts,

1267
03:54:20,186 --> 03:54:22,058
and there was backward
motion in a lot of fronts.

1268
03:54:22,082 --> 03:54:23,886
Move lady, or I'm gonna blow off

1269
03:54:23,910 --> 03:54:25,334
your old man's 'acho bizeezhiis!

1270
03:54:25,358 --> 03:54:27,644
The 80s was before we were PC.

1271
03:54:27,668 --> 03:54:30,610
Gay people, black
people, Asian people,

1272
03:54:30,634 --> 03:54:33,196
in the 80s movies were
always the butt of the joke.

1273
03:54:33,220 --> 03:54:34,507
And we just dealt with it.

1274
03:54:34,531 --> 03:54:36,024
We were just used to it.

1275
03:54:36,048 --> 03:54:40,024
Urban stereotypes of black
people, Asian stereotypes.

1276
03:54:40,048 --> 03:54:41,713
And yes, they were harmful,

1277
03:54:41,737 --> 03:54:43,886
but we weren't as aware
that they were harmful,

1278
03:54:43,910 --> 03:54:47,013
because we just had not
awakened ourselves yet.

1279
03:54:52,979 --> 03:54:54,507
No!

1280
03:54:54,531 --> 03:54:56,472
I think stereotypes are
stereotypes for a reason,

1281
03:54:56,496 --> 03:54:58,610
because there's a
lot of truth in them.

1282
03:54:58,634 --> 03:55:01,438
But I also think that the
80s is more complicated

1283
03:55:01,462 --> 03:55:03,955
and messier than
just a reductive,

1284
03:55:03,979 --> 03:55:06,117
the black guy dies first rule.

1285
03:55:11,910 --> 03:55:14,748
I look back at Romero,
"Night of the Living Dead",

1286
03:55:14,772 --> 03:55:16,438
a black leading man.

1287
03:55:16,462 --> 03:55:18,886
Very bold move on his part.

1288
03:55:18,910 --> 03:55:21,610
He wasn't there as a
symbol of a black man.

1289
03:55:21,634 --> 03:55:23,703
He was there just as a man.

1290
03:55:25,806 --> 03:55:28,024
What people don't give
Romero enough credit for

1291
03:55:28,048 --> 03:55:30,817
is that in his zombie
trilogy, Romero's always

1292
03:55:30,841 --> 03:55:32,748
putting the underdog
at the front.

1293
03:55:32,772 --> 03:55:33,920
Get out of the way, bitch,

1294
03:55:33,944 --> 03:55:35,464
or I'll go right
through you with this.

1295
03:55:38,186 --> 03:55:40,989
We're getting to
make this a habit, man.

1296
03:55:41,013 --> 03:55:43,196
"Night of the Comet",
we had a Mexican man

1297
03:55:43,220 --> 03:55:46,334
as the male lead, which,
because it's Los Angeles,

1298
03:55:46,358 --> 03:55:48,127
we didn't think
anything of that,

1299
03:55:48,151 --> 03:55:50,531
but everybody else
was like, whoa!

1300
03:55:51,600 --> 03:55:52,541
Jeez!

1301
03:55:52,565 --> 03:55:53,685
There goes the neighborhood!

1302
03:55:54,772 --> 03:55:59,531
In those days, it was
defiant to cast a Latino.

1303
03:56:01,875 --> 03:56:03,886
I would be very happy
when I would watch

1304
03:56:03,910 --> 03:56:07,231
a horror movie
back then, and see

1305
03:56:07,255 --> 03:56:10,565
the kind of diversity
that did show up.

1306
03:56:13,600 --> 03:56:14,782
Want one?

1307
03:56:14,806 --> 03:56:16,955
Because representation
is such a new idea,

1308
03:56:16,979 --> 03:56:19,507
because sometimes you don't
know what you don't have,

1309
03:56:19,531 --> 03:56:20,886
until you start to get it,

1310
03:56:20,910 --> 03:56:21,989
and then you're like, oh.

1311
03:56:22,013 --> 03:56:23,393
We didn't have this before.

1312
03:56:24,600 --> 03:56:25,851
Oh, look at that face.

1313
03:56:25,875 --> 03:56:27,220
Okay do the other one.

1314
03:56:29,289 --> 03:56:32,058
I'm from a Filipino family,

1315
03:56:32,082 --> 03:56:35,886
and our culture was never
represented.

1316
03:56:35,910 --> 03:56:39,576
Unfortunately, even
today, we're very limited.

1317
03:56:39,600 --> 03:56:42,644
Looking back on the way
casting was in the 80s,

1318
03:56:42,668 --> 03:56:46,403
I know it can be easy
to be upset at the past,

1319
03:56:46,427 --> 03:56:48,955
but it was of its time,

1320
03:56:48,979 --> 03:56:51,082
and it was kind of rough.

1321
03:56:53,703 --> 03:56:54,765
No!

1322
03:56:56,082 --> 03:56:58,058
In the rare instances
where you do see yourself

1323
03:56:58,082 --> 03:57:00,369
represented onscreen, or
something that is even

1324
03:57:00,393 --> 03:57:03,472
closely akin to you, and
it's shown in a negative way,

1325
03:57:03,496 --> 03:57:05,851
or there's violence being
done to this person,

1326
03:57:05,875 --> 03:57:07,255
it weighs on you.

1327
03:57:09,013 --> 03:57:12,541
I feel like we can
learn from our mistakes,

1328
03:57:12,565 --> 03:57:14,989
but not beat
ourselves up about it,

1329
03:57:15,013 --> 03:57:18,806
and not feel like we
have to change the edit.

1330
03:57:22,462 --> 03:57:23,748
I don't think we
need to throw away

1331
03:57:23,772 --> 03:57:25,817
representation
that isn't perfect,

1332
03:57:25,841 --> 03:57:29,024
and in the 1980s,
representation was not perfect.

1333
03:57:29,048 --> 03:57:32,679
It's important to remember
what the social context is

1334
03:57:32,703 --> 03:57:33,920
when something's made.

1335
03:57:33,944 --> 03:57:35,541
We should be talking
about our history.

1336
03:57:35,565 --> 03:57:38,610
There's a reason why
this isn't okay now,

1337
03:57:38,634 --> 03:57:40,713
and was happening then.

1338
03:57:40,737 --> 03:57:44,024
Context, context, context
is what's important

1339
03:57:44,048 --> 03:57:45,300
when it comes to these films.

1340
03:57:45,324 --> 03:57:47,334
Doesn't it bother
you that he's a fag?

1341
03:57:47,358 --> 03:57:48,541
Come on-

1342
03:57:48,565 --> 03:57:50,127
Tell me, Billy.

1343
03:57:50,151 --> 03:57:51,403
Are you a fag?

1344
03:57:51,427 --> 03:57:53,748
We need to talk about
more than just the word.

1345
03:57:53,772 --> 03:57:56,265
We need to talk about what
the word was doing there,

1346
03:57:56,289 --> 03:57:57,886
and who put it on that page.

1347
03:57:57,910 --> 03:58:00,231
Every filmmaker,
their upbringing

1348
03:58:00,255 --> 03:58:02,851
influences their storytelling.

1349
03:58:02,875 --> 03:58:04,989
With that in mind, I began
to make my own films,

1350
03:58:05,013 --> 03:58:07,093
and I began to
write my own films,

1351
03:58:07,117 --> 03:58:08,989
and I began to
create opportunity,

1352
03:58:09,013 --> 03:58:11,644
not only for myself,
but for everyone else.

1353
03:58:11,668 --> 03:58:13,265
What do you make of it, Mark?

1354
03:58:13,289 --> 03:58:14,541
Beats me, Chief.

1355
03:58:14,565 --> 03:58:16,334
Seems like the work of
pathological weirdos.

1356
03:58:16,358 --> 03:58:19,979
Representation being
a double-edged sword.

1357
03:58:21,462 --> 03:58:22,644
I'm really getting scared.

1358
03:58:22,668 --> 03:58:24,162
I can't take back
any movies I did,

1359
03:58:24,186 --> 03:58:25,610
and I don't want to.

1360
03:58:25,634 --> 03:58:29,024
I represent as far as
I can what I look like

1361
03:58:29,048 --> 03:58:30,886
in the group of
people I come from,

1362
03:58:30,910 --> 03:58:33,127
but I never pretended,
and I don't say

1363
03:58:33,151 --> 03:58:35,127
I'm speaking for everybody.

1364
03:58:35,151 --> 03:58:36,748
I just have my little lane,

1365
03:58:36,772 --> 03:58:38,196
and I try to stick to my lane.

1366
03:58:38,220 --> 03:58:40,093
When you look at
horror of the late 1970s,

1367
03:58:40,117 --> 03:58:41,989
early 1980s, we start to see

1368
03:58:42,013 --> 03:58:43,989
actual queer
representation trickle in.

1369
03:58:44,113 --> 03:58:47,296
We see gay guys kicking
ass in films like "Siege",

1370
03:58:47,420 --> 03:58:49,248
and "Savage Weekend".

1371
03:58:53,279 --> 03:58:56,220
That was getting way
more normalized in the 70s,

1372
03:58:56,244 --> 03:58:58,117
and then when AIDS hit,
they all got shoved

1373
03:58:58,141 --> 03:58:59,634
back in the closet pretty hard.

1374
03:58:59,658 --> 03:59:02,462
Suddenly, there is very
much no longer an interest

1375
03:59:02,486 --> 03:59:05,427
in having queer characters
normalized in those films.

1376
03:59:05,451 --> 03:59:06,841
It was a big
elephant in the room,

1377
03:59:06,865 --> 03:59:08,186
and I think a lot
of horror filmmakers

1378
03:59:08,210 --> 03:59:10,082
didn't want to bother
navigating that.

1379
03:59:10,106 --> 03:59:12,944
It's part of the
evolutionary process of horror.

1380
03:59:12,968 --> 03:59:16,565
For me, like it was such
an educational process

1381
03:59:16,589 --> 03:59:19,876
to be able to go
back and look at how

1382
03:59:19,900 --> 03:59:21,807
we've changed, and
how our dialogue,

1383
03:59:21,831 --> 03:59:25,037
and how our discussion of
these movies has changed.

1384
03:59:28,348 --> 03:59:29,451
Oh god, she's a boy.

1385
03:59:30,968 --> 03:59:33,220
It's hard to compare the 1980s

1386
03:59:33,244 --> 03:59:36,082
and representation in horror
to what we have today.

1387
03:59:36,106 --> 03:59:38,876
Because what we have is
a conversation happening

1388
03:59:38,900 --> 03:59:42,141
that's asking for what we
want our future to look like.

1389
03:59:44,520 --> 03:59:47,186
I look at everything
that happens in the past

1390
03:59:47,210 --> 03:59:50,244
as opportunities to do much,
much better in the future.

1391
03:59:51,900 --> 03:59:54,669
It was once said to me that
representation is a journey,

1392
03:59:54,693 --> 03:59:56,186
not a destination.

1393
03:59:56,210 --> 03:59:58,462
So to me, representation
in the 80s

1394
03:59:58,486 --> 04:00:00,220
is a work in progress.

1395
04:00:00,244 --> 04:00:02,841
Representation now is
a work in progress.

1396
04:00:02,865 --> 04:00:04,738
There's forward movement, and
there's backward movement,

1397
04:00:04,762 --> 04:00:07,772
but you can't snapshot it
and say this is what it was.

1398
04:00:07,796 --> 04:00:09,496
Because I think it's
a more complicated

1399
04:00:09,520 --> 04:00:10,900
messier picture than that.

1400
04:00:24,141 --> 04:00:26,900
"Return of
the Living Dead: Part II".

1401
04:00:28,072 --> 04:00:30,910
Just when you thought
it was safe to be dead.

1402
04:00:30,934 --> 04:00:33,462
I love a good zany horror movie.

1403
04:00:33,486 --> 04:00:35,772
Zombie content right
now is very serious.

1404
04:00:35,796 --> 04:00:38,358
It's all about
society and humanity,

1405
04:00:38,382 --> 04:00:39,876
and what does humanity mean.

1406
04:00:39,900 --> 04:00:41,565
This movie, it's
fun to watch zombies

1407
04:00:41,589 --> 04:00:44,348
just be ridiculous.

1408
04:00:48,106 --> 04:00:48,911
"Return of the
Living Dead: Part 1"

1409
04:00:48,935 --> 04:00:50,772
is truly a dark comedy.

1410
04:00:50,796 --> 04:00:52,324
You're laughing
at the situations

1411
04:00:52,348 --> 04:00:54,151
the kids get themselves into,

1412
04:00:54,175 --> 04:00:57,382
and "Part II" kind of
went for the jokes.

1413
04:01:01,900 --> 04:01:04,082
It's less of a sequel,
and more just kind of

1414
04:01:04,106 --> 04:01:06,220
a goofier remake
of the first one.

1415
04:01:06,244 --> 04:01:08,634
"Return of the Living
Dead II" shows that

1416
04:01:08,658 --> 04:01:10,669
even if you die in
the first movie,

1417
04:01:10,793 --> 04:01:12,762
you can still come
back for the sequel.

1418
04:01:16,000 --> 04:01:17,872
Not bad.

1419
04:01:17,896 --> 04:01:19,976
Nice bit of rump
in her time, huh?

1420
04:01:20,000 --> 04:01:22,838
James Karen and Tom
Matthews from the first movie

1421
04:01:22,862 --> 04:01:24,217
come back for this one.

1422
04:01:24,241 --> 04:01:26,665
They're kind of
filling the same role,

1423
04:01:26,689 --> 04:01:29,217
and basically have the
same arc as the first one,

1424
04:01:29,241 --> 04:01:33,044
so they sort of are playing
the same characters.

1425
04:01:33,068 --> 04:01:35,217
We've been here before!

1426
04:01:35,241 --> 04:01:38,148
It's like a dream,
this whole thing!

1427
04:01:38,172 --> 04:01:39,172
You, me!

1428
04:01:40,379 --> 04:01:41,700
"Return of the Living Dead"
was a huge hit in Japan,

1429
04:01:41,724 --> 04:01:43,665
and they said if you
can have Jimmy Karen

1430
04:01:43,689 --> 04:01:45,458
and Tom Matthews come
back, we'd give you

1431
04:01:45,482 --> 04:01:46,700
a little bit more money.

1432
04:01:46,724 --> 04:01:48,562
So that's how Jimmy
and I got involved

1433
04:01:48,586 --> 04:01:51,241
back in it again, was
because of the Japanese.

1434
04:01:55,103 --> 04:01:57,251
Jimmy Karen, lot of
people on the East Coast

1435
04:01:57,275 --> 04:01:58,872
call him the Pathmark man.

1436
04:01:58,896 --> 04:02:01,251
March rolls in with
hundreds of price reductions

1437
04:02:01,275 --> 04:02:02,700
in this new Pathmark circular.

1438
04:02:02,724 --> 04:02:04,941
So he would give weekly
specials every week

1439
04:02:04,965 --> 04:02:06,286
for 30 years.

1440
04:02:06,310 --> 04:02:08,320
24 hours a day, you'll save

1441
04:02:08,344 --> 04:02:10,458
with one stop
shopping at Pathmark.

1442
04:02:10,482 --> 04:02:12,251
He was so infectious on the set.

1443
04:02:12,275 --> 04:02:13,931
Raised everybody's game up.

1444
04:02:18,793 --> 04:02:21,355
You laugh at the situations
we get ourselves into.

1445
04:02:21,379 --> 04:02:24,700
You can't believe the
shit that's going on.

1446
04:02:24,724 --> 04:02:26,286
Are you fucking kidding?

1447
04:02:26,310 --> 04:02:27,665
That's insane.

1448
04:02:27,689 --> 04:02:29,148
That's what you're
responding to.

1449
04:02:29,172 --> 04:02:30,976
We're acting it for real, man.

1450
04:02:31,000 --> 04:02:32,148
It's the dead!

1451
04:02:32,172 --> 04:02:32,977
They've come back to life!

1452
04:02:33,001 --> 04:02:34,010
The dead?

1453
04:02:34,034 --> 04:02:34,873
Dead, dead what?

1454
04:02:34,897 --> 04:02:35,976
People!

1455
04:02:36,000 --> 04:02:37,251
We need your car!

1456
04:02:37,275 --> 04:02:38,562
Well it sounds to me
like you need a hearse.

1457
04:02:38,586 --> 04:02:40,320
I had an issue with Jimmy Karen

1458
04:02:40,344 --> 04:02:41,838
eating brains, actually,

1459
04:02:41,862 --> 04:02:43,562
because the director wanted
me to eat frickin' brains,

1460
04:02:43,586 --> 04:02:47,251
and I was like, that was just
so over the line, I thought.

1461
04:02:47,275 --> 04:02:50,286
I got really upset
about that on the set.

1462
04:02:50,310 --> 04:02:52,310
I had issues with
him, Ken Wiederhorn.

1463
04:02:56,793 --> 04:02:59,251
It's like he lost a bet
and had to do the movie.

1464
04:02:59,275 --> 04:03:01,286
Hemdale made him do
it to do other movies

1465
04:03:01,310 --> 04:03:02,838
that he wanted to do.

1466
04:03:02,862 --> 04:03:07,862
It's a sad story of Ken
Wiederhorn and his career.

1467
04:03:09,034 --> 04:03:11,079
He came right out of the
gate with "Shock Waves",

1468
04:03:11,103 --> 04:03:12,596
he had "Dark Tower"
that he wrote

1469
04:03:12,620 --> 04:03:14,389
that was completely butchered.

1470
04:03:14,413 --> 04:03:17,320
"Meatballs II" was never
a "Meatballs" movie.

1471
04:03:17,344 --> 04:03:18,769
It was a movie that he made,

1472
04:03:18,793 --> 04:03:20,976
and the company was
like, we need a sequel.

1473
04:03:21,000 --> 04:03:21,908
And they retitled it.

1474
04:03:21,932 --> 04:03:23,182
And this happens again.

1475
04:03:23,206 --> 04:03:25,148
I mean, Ken has the script,

1476
04:03:25,172 --> 04:03:27,217
and it's not really
a zombie comedy,

1477
04:03:27,241 --> 04:03:29,896
but they want to make a
"Return of the Living Dead II".

1478
04:03:35,000 --> 04:03:36,872
He just really wasn't interested

1479
04:03:36,896 --> 04:03:38,517
in doing the movie,
but he did it

1480
04:03:40,862 --> 04:03:41,862
Oh, fuck this!

1481
04:03:46,344 --> 04:03:48,803
The strengths of "Part II"
that people really enjoy,

1482
04:03:48,827 --> 04:03:52,010
I think the fact that the
main character was a kid,

1483
04:03:52,034 --> 04:03:56,103
so they have an emotional
connection to the movie.

1484
04:03:57,965 --> 04:03:58,965
Brains!

1485
04:03:59,758 --> 04:04:01,010
I've never heard anyone say

1486
04:04:01,034 --> 04:04:02,976
that they've hated "Part II",

1487
04:04:03,000 --> 04:04:05,907
except for me.

1488
04:04:05,931 --> 04:04:08,034
This is big fucking trouble!

1489
04:04:10,034 --> 04:04:11,758
I've changed my mind since then.

1490
04:04:26,275 --> 04:04:29,458
You've got
to give the devil his due!

1491
04:04:29,482 --> 04:04:30,976
"Sorority Babes".

1492
04:04:31,000 --> 04:04:33,320
"Sorority Babes in the
Slimeball Bowl-O-Rama"

1493
04:04:33,344 --> 04:04:36,665
is about these kids
that think, okay,

1494
04:04:36,689 --> 04:04:40,527
we're gonna break into a
mall, in the bowling alley,

1495
04:04:40,751 --> 04:04:42,934
and steal a trophy.

1496
04:04:42,958 --> 04:04:44,658
Come on, man!

1497
04:04:44,782 --> 04:04:45,587
I'm working on it.

1498
04:04:45,711 --> 04:04:47,468
Will you cool your jets?

1499
04:04:49,744 --> 04:04:51,238
Things turn out really bad,

1500
04:04:51,262 --> 04:04:53,548
because they awaken this imp.

1501
04:04:53,572 --> 04:04:55,203
Such a sour face!

1502
04:04:55,227 --> 04:04:57,238
Stop it, you little prick!

1503
04:04:57,262 --> 04:04:59,720
Very funny imp,
but very menacing,

1504
04:04:59,744 --> 04:05:01,606
and does bad things.

1505
04:05:03,055 --> 04:05:04,032
Have a nice trip!

1506
04:05:04,056 --> 04:05:05,617
See you next fall!

1507
04:05:05,641 --> 04:05:08,065
I crack me up!

1508
04:05:08,089 --> 04:05:10,376
It's that story
of the monkey's paw.

1509
04:05:10,400 --> 04:05:11,893
Be careful what you wish for.

1510
04:05:11,917 --> 04:05:12,790
Gold!

1511
04:05:12,814 --> 04:05:13,858
Lots of it!

1512
04:05:13,882 --> 04:05:15,789
Then gold it is!

1513
04:05:15,813 --> 04:05:16,996
This isn't gold!

1514
04:05:17,020 --> 04:05:18,272
These people make these wishes,

1515
04:05:18,296 --> 04:05:21,307
and they go so bad,
it's not even funny.

1516
04:05:21,331 --> 04:05:23,996
Oh perfect form!

1517
04:05:24,020 --> 04:05:25,307
Lovely form!

1518
04:05:25,331 --> 04:05:28,341
Now I come along, and
my name is Spider in it,

1519
04:05:28,365 --> 04:05:30,951
and I save the day.

1520
04:05:35,262 --> 04:05:37,582
When I got the script,
it wasn't called

1521
04:05:37,606 --> 04:05:39,651
"Sorority Babes in the
Slimeball Bowl O' Rama",

1522
04:05:39,675 --> 04:05:40,893
it was called "The Imp".

1523
04:05:40,917 --> 04:05:43,203
We had no idea what
the imp would be like.

1524
04:05:43,227 --> 04:05:44,651
We didn't know what
it would sound like,

1525
04:05:44,675 --> 04:05:45,962
we didn't know what
it would look like,

1526
04:05:45,986 --> 04:05:47,479
because no one was there.

1527
04:05:47,503 --> 04:05:49,962
We just had to pretend we
were looking at something.

1528
04:05:49,986 --> 04:05:52,169
We had no idea it
would be a funny voice.

1529
04:05:52,193 --> 04:05:54,031
Uncle Imp is gonna get ya!

1530
04:05:54,055 --> 04:05:55,227
Fun, fun, fun!

1531
04:05:56,434 --> 04:05:58,479
Dukey Flyswatter was in a band

1532
04:05:58,503 --> 04:06:00,065
called The Haunted Garage.

1533
04:06:00,089 --> 04:06:03,444
He was a great guy and
everything, to work with.

1534
04:06:03,468 --> 04:06:06,434
No, that's his real name.

1535
04:06:07,641 --> 04:06:08,893
I don't know what
his real name is.

1536
04:06:08,917 --> 04:06:11,927
It's probably Howard,
or something like that.

1537
04:06:11,951 --> 04:06:15,331
Would I lie to you?

1538
04:06:21,296 --> 04:06:23,858
"The Serpent and the Rainbow".

1539
04:06:23,882 --> 04:06:26,789
When I think of the movies
that Wes Craven created

1540
04:06:26,813 --> 04:06:30,376
that really moved me and
challenged me as a viewer,

1541
04:06:30,400 --> 04:06:33,203
"Serpent and the Rainbow"
is definitely at the top

1542
04:06:33,227 --> 04:06:34,434
of that list.

1543
04:06:38,020 --> 04:06:39,513
I love "The Serpent
and the Rainbow".

1544
04:06:39,537 --> 04:06:43,376
They have this dust that you
can put into people's faces

1545
04:06:43,400 --> 04:06:44,893
and they become a zombie.

1546
04:06:44,917 --> 04:06:48,813
So you could bury them,
they could come alive again.

1547
04:06:50,020 --> 04:06:53,376
It is Wes Craven's
take on the zombie film.

1548
04:06:53,400 --> 04:06:55,789
Everybody was kind
of trying to chase

1549
04:06:55,813 --> 04:06:58,744
what George Romero did with
"Night of the Living Dead".

1550
04:06:59,882 --> 04:07:01,376
It wasn't until "Night
of the Living Dead"

1551
04:07:01,400 --> 04:07:04,651
that people even started
talking about ghouls as zombies.

1552
04:07:04,675 --> 04:07:06,031
Zombies were Caribbean.

1553
04:07:06,055 --> 04:07:08,169
Zombies were in "I
Walked With a Zombie",

1554
04:07:08,193 --> 04:07:09,479
you know, "White Zombie".

1555
04:07:09,503 --> 04:07:11,100
That was kind of zombies.

1556
04:07:11,124 --> 04:07:14,789
But now, zombie became
synonymous with living dead people.

1557
04:07:14,813 --> 04:07:17,720
The whole meaning of
the word got screwed up.

1558
04:07:17,744 --> 04:07:20,031
Wes Craven is inviting us

1559
04:07:20,055 --> 04:07:22,858
to learn the history
of these monsters

1560
04:07:22,882 --> 04:07:24,548
that we're fascinated with.

1561
04:07:24,572 --> 04:07:26,548
This comes from him
being an academic.

1562
04:07:26,572 --> 04:07:30,238
He goes back to the
root of the zombie,

1563
04:07:30,262 --> 04:07:32,376
and he goes back to
Haitian folklore.

1564
04:07:32,400 --> 04:07:36,376
It's very much about the
idea of wealthy white people

1565
04:07:36,400 --> 04:07:38,996
trying to steal
cultural heritage

1566
04:07:39,020 --> 04:07:40,548
away from Haitians.

1567
04:07:40,572 --> 04:07:41,824
Now, if you don't
like the word zombie,

1568
04:07:41,848 --> 04:07:43,272
you can choose another word,

1569
04:07:43,296 --> 04:07:44,927
but the fact is,
somebody brought him

1570
04:07:44,951 --> 04:07:46,617
back from the grave,
and I want to know

1571
04:07:46,641 --> 04:07:47,996
how they did it.

1572
04:07:48,020 --> 04:07:50,272
They send Bill
Pullman's character there

1573
04:07:50,296 --> 04:07:52,513
to find out what is the secret

1574
04:07:52,537 --> 04:07:54,651
to immortality, essentially.

1575
04:07:54,675 --> 04:07:58,617
He thinks that he
understands these rituals,

1576
04:07:58,641 --> 04:08:00,651
and that he is above them,
he is a man of science,

1577
04:08:00,675 --> 04:08:02,307
but then he discovers
that he doesn't really

1578
04:08:02,331 --> 04:08:03,513
know it at all.

1579
04:08:03,537 --> 04:08:07,203
Whatever happens,
death is not the end.

1580
04:08:07,227 --> 04:08:09,755
Wes Craven is a
great, great director,

1581
04:08:09,779 --> 04:08:11,744
and comes up with great ideas.

1582
04:08:16,124 --> 04:08:17,651
Really fantastic
effects in that movie.

1583
04:08:17,675 --> 04:08:19,720
Some of the camera tricks
that they're able to do,

1584
04:08:19,744 --> 04:08:21,755
especially in the
sequences with the coffin,

1585
04:08:21,779 --> 04:08:23,400
when it fills with blood.

1586
04:08:25,606 --> 04:08:26,813
It's just phenomenal.

1587
04:08:28,400 --> 04:08:30,789
The dream sequence
with the zombie bride,

1588
04:08:30,813 --> 04:08:33,158
a snake comes out of her skull.

1589
04:08:34,365 --> 04:08:36,548
I mean, that is
incredible imagery.

1590
04:08:36,572 --> 04:08:38,641
You dreamt of me
and of the grave.

1591
04:08:40,089 --> 04:08:41,548
I know because I was there.

1592
04:08:41,572 --> 04:08:46,124
Zakes Mokae in that movie
is absolutely terrifying.

1593
04:08:48,572 --> 04:08:50,755
Bill Pullman really,
he had to put up

1594
04:08:50,779 --> 04:08:52,858
with a lot for that movie.

1595
04:08:52,882 --> 04:08:56,238
I want to hear you scream.

1596
04:08:56,262 --> 04:08:59,238
Where he's basically
in a chair, nude,

1597
04:08:59,262 --> 04:09:02,124
and a nine inch nail
that changes a lot.

1598
04:09:08,710 --> 04:09:11,203
You see it once, you're never
gonna forget that moment.

1599
04:09:11,227 --> 04:09:12,434
And get out!

1600
04:09:13,675 --> 04:09:16,169
"The Serpent and the
Rainbow" feels the most

1601
04:09:16,193 --> 04:09:18,824
like who Wes Craven
was as a person to me,

1602
04:09:18,848 --> 04:09:22,444
because he is
interrogating the way

1603
04:09:22,468 --> 04:09:26,376
that our society functions,
and our fear of death,

1604
04:09:26,400 --> 04:09:28,927
because I think
ultimately, a fear of death

1605
04:09:28,951 --> 04:09:32,434
in this film is a fear of
losing power and influence.

1606
04:09:33,503 --> 04:09:38,031
He has always reinvented horror

1607
04:09:38,055 --> 04:09:42,617
as a means to teach us
either about ourselves,

1608
04:09:42,641 --> 04:09:46,686
broader society, or about
the sins of America,

1609
04:09:46,710 --> 04:09:50,779
the way we extort other
cultures for our own gain.

1610
04:09:52,882 --> 04:09:55,376
Don't let them bury me.

1611
04:09:55,400 --> 04:09:56,813
I'm not dead!

1612
04:10:03,434 --> 04:10:06,686
When I really think
about all of my memories

1613
04:10:06,710 --> 04:10:08,548
on the set of "Sleepaway Camp",

1614
04:10:08,572 --> 04:10:10,582
we were just one big family.

1615
04:10:10,606 --> 04:10:13,065
One of the most magical
times of my life.

1616
04:10:13,089 --> 04:10:18,055
I was a 13-year-old
making this fun movie.

1617
04:10:20,400 --> 04:10:22,548
Spoiler alert, I mean
the first penis I saw

1618
04:10:22,572 --> 04:10:24,100
was my own penis, you know?

1619
04:10:24,124 --> 04:10:27,744
It was like, this was a
movie like none other.

1620
04:10:32,434 --> 04:10:35,513
Once you find out
what the ending is,

1621
04:10:35,537 --> 04:10:39,031
you start to understand
the deeper meaning.

1622
04:10:39,055 --> 04:10:40,479
And there's a lot going on.

1623
04:10:40,503 --> 04:10:44,513
Your gender identification,
your sexual orientation.

1624
04:10:44,537 --> 04:10:46,272
It was never intended to have

1625
04:10:46,296 --> 04:10:49,238
any kind of negative connotation

1626
04:10:49,262 --> 04:10:52,376
on any aspect of life.

1627
04:10:52,400 --> 04:10:53,744
Goodnight, campers.

1628
04:10:54,986 --> 04:10:56,720
"Sleepaway Camp 2".

1629
04:10:56,744 --> 04:10:59,789
Michael Simpson called
about portraying Angela

1630
04:10:59,813 --> 04:11:01,582
possibly in Parts 2 and 3.

1631
04:11:01,606 --> 04:11:02,927
It was the late 80s.

1632
04:11:02,951 --> 04:11:04,376
We were seeing more comedy.

1633
04:11:04,400 --> 04:11:08,296
And I just didn't take very
well to that character.

1634
04:11:10,158 --> 04:11:11,238
Wake up, everybody!

1635
04:11:11,262 --> 04:11:12,582
Breakfast in half an hour!

1636
04:11:12,606 --> 04:11:13,755
I put it on hold.

1637
04:11:13,779 --> 04:11:15,848
I'm young, let me go to school.

1638
04:11:17,572 --> 04:11:20,376
Robert Hiltzik made this
movie, and it was great.

1639
04:11:20,400 --> 04:11:22,720
So when Robert wrote the sequel,

1640
04:11:22,744 --> 04:11:26,513
he continued that dark
movie that was made,

1641
04:11:26,637 --> 04:11:28,717
and the producers
were like, nah.

1642
04:11:28,841 --> 04:11:31,334
We want to really
play into Angela.

1643
04:11:31,458 --> 04:11:33,813
Fritz Gordon is actually
Michael Hitchcock,

1644
04:11:33,837 --> 04:11:35,193
who wrote Glee.

1645
04:11:35,217 --> 04:11:37,469
He was brought in to
write the horror comedy.

1646
04:11:37,493 --> 04:11:39,158
There's lots of good kids.

1647
04:11:39,182 --> 04:11:41,193
We just have to
weed out the bad.

1648
04:11:41,217 --> 04:11:42,779
But it's mainly one liners,

1649
04:11:42,803 --> 04:11:44,641
and just kind of
Pamela Springsteen

1650
04:11:44,665 --> 04:11:46,641
taking this Angela character,

1651
04:11:46,665 --> 04:11:50,124
and just amplifying it so much.

1652
04:11:50,148 --> 04:11:52,044
Say no to drugs.

1653
04:11:55,872 --> 04:11:58,538
She brought so much energy.

1654
04:11:58,562 --> 04:12:00,951
That was an Angela that was fun.

1655
04:12:00,975 --> 04:12:02,148
You talk too much.

1656
04:12:05,320 --> 04:12:09,124
Also, them playing with
the transgender character,

1657
04:12:09,148 --> 04:12:13,779
fully a woman, has completely
undergone everything.

1658
04:12:13,803 --> 04:12:15,469
A surgery and all.

1659
04:12:15,493 --> 04:12:18,365
You're Angela Baker,
the angel of death!

1660
04:12:18,389 --> 04:12:20,020
They should have
called you Peter!

1661
04:12:20,044 --> 04:12:22,331
My name is Angela Johnson.

1662
04:12:22,355 --> 04:12:24,055
A Bruce Springsteen sister.

1663
04:12:24,079 --> 04:12:25,365
She kept it secret.

1664
04:12:25,389 --> 04:12:26,366
She wanted to be an actress,

1665
04:12:26,390 --> 04:12:27,607
but I guess it wasn't for her.

1666
04:12:27,631 --> 04:12:29,527
She ended up doing
photography instead.

1667
04:12:30,768 --> 04:12:33,744
Some of Bruce
Springsteen's album covers

1668
04:12:33,768 --> 04:12:37,331
is Pamela Springsteen's
photographs.

1669
04:12:37,355 --> 04:12:39,262
I was once a camper myself.

1670
04:12:39,286 --> 04:12:41,158
She's the boss' sister.

1671
04:12:41,182 --> 04:12:42,906
She was born cool.

1672
04:12:44,803 --> 04:12:47,158
Angela is killing
because she's bullied.

1673
04:12:47,182 --> 04:12:49,641
She's weeding out
all the bad kids,

1674
04:12:49,665 --> 04:12:51,020
and she's on top of it,

1675
04:12:51,044 --> 04:12:53,400
and she doesn't care
what anyone thinks.

1676
04:12:53,424 --> 04:12:54,700
Please, don't!

1677
04:12:57,320 --> 04:12:58,503
Sorry!

1678
04:12:58,527 --> 04:13:00,676
Once I start a task,
I always finish.

1679
04:13:00,700 --> 04:13:02,848
It has some kind
of cruel deaths,

1680
04:13:02,872 --> 04:13:05,527
like shoving somebody
down a Porta Potty.

1681
04:13:06,355 --> 04:13:07,355
What's down there?

1682
04:13:08,975 --> 04:13:10,607
The leeches
attached to her face,

1683
04:13:10,631 --> 04:13:12,917
she's obviously covered
in poop and pee,

1684
04:13:12,941 --> 04:13:14,538
and it's just like, ugh.

1685
04:13:14,562 --> 04:13:16,986
What a horrible way to die.

1686
04:13:17,010 --> 04:13:18,641
I love that outhouse scene.

1687
04:13:18,665 --> 04:13:20,424
That was disgusting!

1688
04:13:22,320 --> 04:13:24,365
It's a perfect,
perfect, perfect blend

1689
04:13:24,389 --> 04:13:26,365
of horror and comedy.

1690
04:13:26,389 --> 04:13:27,676
A lot of people say
"Part 2" 's my favorite,

1691
04:13:27,700 --> 04:13:29,320
and I think that's fantastic.

1692
04:13:31,941 --> 04:13:34,951
I do wish I had
played those roles.

1693
04:13:34,975 --> 04:13:36,227
I do.

1694
04:13:36,251 --> 04:13:38,020
I always say I have
no regrets in life.

1695
04:13:38,044 --> 04:13:38,849
None.

1696
04:13:38,873 --> 04:13:40,882
But I do regret that.

1697
04:13:40,906 --> 04:13:42,837
Even if you're
sad, you gotta eat.

1698
04:13:43,975 --> 04:13:45,607
Isn't that right, Leah?

1699
04:13:45,631 --> 04:13:47,503
Just would have been super cool

1700
04:13:47,527 --> 04:13:50,503
to feel like I had done
the entire franchise.

1701
04:13:50,527 --> 04:13:52,607
I think the series
is empowering.

1702
04:13:52,631 --> 04:13:54,434
I've watched it over 40 years

1703
04:13:54,458 --> 04:13:56,607
grow into this, you know,

1704
04:13:56,631 --> 04:13:58,744
it has a life of its own.

1705
04:13:58,768 --> 04:14:01,365
"Sleepaway Camp" is
so interesting to me.

1706
04:14:01,389 --> 04:14:03,607
I still have so many questions.

1707
04:14:03,631 --> 04:14:05,458
I'm completely cured.

1708
04:14:07,251 --> 04:14:09,941
If I wasn't, they
wouldn't have let me out.

1709
04:14:19,562 --> 04:14:21,813
"Don't Panic" really
feels like it was

1710
04:14:21,837 --> 04:14:23,813
made by a fan for fans.

1711
04:14:23,837 --> 04:14:24,676
One!

1712
04:14:24,700 --> 04:14:25,700
Two!

1713
04:14:26,872 --> 04:14:28,424
Three!

1714
04:14:32,975 --> 04:14:36,434
This 17-year-old boy has a party

1715
04:14:36,458 --> 04:14:39,331
where his friends surprise
him with the Ouija board.

1716
04:14:39,355 --> 04:14:42,365
And if you thought this movie
was about the Ouija board,

1717
04:14:42,389 --> 04:14:43,837
oh you thought wrong.

1718
04:14:49,493 --> 04:14:52,296
In Spanish, "Don't
Panic" was called

1719
04:14:52,320 --> 04:14:56,365
"Dimensiones Ocultas", which
means occult dimensions.

1720
04:14:56,389 --> 04:14:59,744
At that time, the only way
was to shoot in English,

1721
04:14:59,768 --> 04:15:01,941
sell it in the
international markets.

1722
04:15:03,596 --> 04:15:07,951
We tried to hire actors
that were English fluent,

1723
04:15:07,975 --> 04:15:09,941
and that had an
international look.

1724
04:15:14,975 --> 04:15:16,779
Let's look at the
character Michael.

1725
04:15:16,803 --> 04:15:18,469
That's what I call a pullet.

1726
04:15:18,493 --> 04:15:20,951
You have a perm on your mullet.

1727
04:15:20,975 --> 04:15:25,538
And you're wearing dinosaur
pajamas at 17 years old.

1728
04:15:25,562 --> 04:15:26,365
They're after me.

1729
04:15:26,389 --> 04:15:27,263
They're gonna get me.

1730
04:15:27,287 --> 04:15:28,641
Don't worry, baby.

1731
04:15:28,665 --> 04:15:30,320
I won't let anybody hurt you.

1732
04:15:31,458 --> 04:15:34,158
I always get questions
about those pajamas.

1733
04:15:34,182 --> 04:15:36,641
They seem to be the
most memorable aspect

1734
04:15:36,665 --> 04:15:38,951
of "Don't Panic".

1735
04:15:38,975 --> 04:15:40,400
Michael.

1736
04:15:40,424 --> 04:15:43,055
This time you have to stop him.

1737
04:15:43,079 --> 04:15:44,676
Don't fail.

1738
04:15:44,700 --> 04:15:46,124
What the fuck?

1739
04:15:46,148 --> 04:15:50,331
It almost felt like a
medically induced dream fever.

1740
04:15:50,355 --> 04:15:52,182
It was just so out there.

1741
04:15:53,182 --> 04:15:54,182
Hurry!

1742
04:15:57,320 --> 04:16:00,124
Do you believe in Satan?

1743
04:16:00,148 --> 04:16:02,503
Roberto Palazuelos is playing

1744
04:16:02,527 --> 04:16:05,538
the character of
a tough bully guy.

1745
04:16:05,562 --> 04:16:08,744
He goes inside the car,
sticks his head out

1746
04:16:08,768 --> 04:16:10,286
from the window.

1747
04:16:13,113 --> 04:16:15,779
What Screaming Mad
George did for us,

1748
04:16:15,803 --> 04:16:17,986
he made a piece of prosthetic,

1749
04:16:18,010 --> 04:16:21,503
like a retractable
knife inside the mouth.

1750
04:16:21,527 --> 04:16:23,572
And then when he
opened his mouth,

1751
04:16:23,596 --> 04:16:25,331
you could see the blade pop,

1752
04:16:25,355 --> 04:16:27,124
and the blood come
out of the mouth.

1753
04:16:27,148 --> 04:16:29,113
I think it was a very good kill.

1754
04:16:33,113 --> 04:16:35,365
It really became a success

1755
04:16:35,389 --> 04:16:37,400
when video came out.

1756
04:16:37,424 --> 04:16:39,779
And then we started
getting requests

1757
04:16:39,803 --> 04:16:41,193
from all the world.

1758
04:16:41,217 --> 04:16:45,837
We sold it in United Kingdom,
Japan, China, Germany.

1759
04:16:46,700 --> 04:16:47,608
I've gotta save Christie!

1760
04:16:47,632 --> 04:16:48,803
Please listen to me!

1761
04:16:51,665 --> 04:16:55,641
It scared the shit out
of the audience.

1762
04:16:55,665 --> 04:16:58,744
You want to play games?

1763
04:16:58,768 --> 04:16:59,768
Good.

1764
04:17:00,700 --> 04:17:01,734
I like games.

1765
04:17:08,734 --> 04:17:11,010
Say your prayers.

1766
04:17:13,320 --> 04:17:14,917
"Lady in White".

1767
04:17:14,941 --> 04:17:18,262
"Lady in White" is a
particularly strong example

1768
04:17:18,286 --> 04:17:19,676
of gateway horror.

1769
04:17:19,700 --> 04:17:22,744
That was one of the scariest
movies I saw as a kid,

1770
04:17:22,768 --> 04:17:26,124
because it's dealing with
very, very dark material,

1771
04:17:26,148 --> 04:17:28,607
and it's stuff that could
happen in real life.

1772
04:17:28,631 --> 04:17:31,572
The titular lady in
white is a ghost,

1773
04:17:31,596 --> 04:17:33,986
but what this movie
is really about

1774
04:17:34,010 --> 04:17:36,355
is a child killer.

1775
04:17:38,286 --> 04:17:40,676
It was seven years
between "Fear No Evil"

1776
04:17:40,700 --> 04:17:42,538
and "Lady in White"
before I got back

1777
04:17:42,562 --> 04:17:43,779
behind the camera again.

1778
04:17:43,803 --> 04:17:45,538
It was a remarkable experience,

1779
04:17:45,562 --> 04:17:48,744
such a far cry from
"Fear No Evil".

1780
04:17:48,768 --> 04:17:50,676
What I wanted to do this time

1781
04:17:50,700 --> 04:17:52,400
was really try to make something

1782
04:17:52,424 --> 04:17:55,089
that was personal on an
autobiographical level.

1783
04:17:55,113 --> 04:17:58,296
A beautiful story
about what it was like

1784
04:17:58,320 --> 04:17:59,572
growing up in that era,

1785
04:17:59,596 --> 04:18:03,469
and combine it with
this ghost story,

1786
04:18:03,493 --> 04:18:05,227
that drives it thematically,

1787
04:18:05,251 --> 04:18:08,079
and perhaps more
so commercially.

1788
04:18:14,010 --> 04:18:16,607
It's like the most
cinematic version of Halloween

1789
04:18:16,631 --> 04:18:17,744
that you can have.

1790
04:18:17,768 --> 04:18:19,227
It smells like Halloween,

1791
04:18:19,251 --> 04:18:22,572
like you watch that movie,
and it tastes like candy corn.

1792
04:18:22,596 --> 04:18:23,882
The seasonal feel.

1793
04:18:23,906 --> 04:18:25,434
We began during the fall,

1794
04:18:25,458 --> 04:18:28,055
and the moved into
the winter months.

1795
04:18:28,079 --> 04:18:30,848
I wanted a contrast
between the darkness

1796
04:18:30,872 --> 04:18:33,262
that was going to
happen in the film,

1797
04:18:33,286 --> 04:18:36,389
and these beautiful
bucolic moments.

1798
04:18:38,320 --> 04:18:39,572
Hey!

1799
04:18:39,596 --> 04:18:41,710
The first image
that came to mind

1800
04:18:41,734 --> 04:18:44,572
for "Lady in White" was
this image of Frankie

1801
04:18:44,596 --> 04:18:46,803
being locked in the cloakroom.

1802
04:18:49,079 --> 04:18:51,469
Comforted
by their ancient voices,

1803
04:18:51,493 --> 04:18:53,434
and I began to dream.

1804
04:18:53,458 --> 04:18:56,158
Lukas Haas plays
Frankie in this.

1805
04:18:56,182 --> 04:18:57,296
I'd seen him in "Witness",

1806
04:18:57,320 --> 04:18:58,676
I'd seen him in "Testament",

1807
04:18:58,700 --> 04:19:00,768
and I knew that this
kid was extraordinary.

1808
04:19:01,975 --> 04:19:06,193
He had an innate ability
to express his feelings.

1809
04:19:06,217 --> 04:19:08,331
That's what acting's all about.

1810
04:19:08,355 --> 04:19:12,124
Mom used to say sometimes
when someone dies violent,

1811
04:19:12,148 --> 04:19:13,503
they can't rest in peace.

1812
04:19:13,527 --> 04:19:15,951
The story is as much
about a time and place

1813
04:19:15,975 --> 04:19:17,951
as anything else.

1814
04:19:17,975 --> 04:19:19,676
A key character is a black man

1815
04:19:19,700 --> 04:19:22,400
who gets caught in the
madness of what's happening,

1816
04:19:22,424 --> 04:19:24,676
what's going on in that town.

1817
04:19:24,700 --> 04:19:27,124
Dealing with issues of race,

1818
04:19:27,148 --> 04:19:28,779
particular as it
relates to the lady,

1819
04:19:28,803 --> 04:19:30,779
what was going on in that era,

1820
04:19:30,803 --> 04:19:33,469
and being truthful as
to how people spoke,

1821
04:19:33,493 --> 04:19:35,710
how they reacted, how they dealt

1822
04:19:35,734 --> 04:19:37,676
with each other between races.

1823
04:19:37,700 --> 04:19:39,710
I wanted nothing but the truth.

1824
04:19:39,734 --> 04:19:41,986
Harold Williams is
a perfect scapegoat.

1825
04:19:42,010 --> 04:19:43,010
He's black.

1826
04:19:44,286 --> 04:19:47,124
When it comes to pure
cinematic drive and force,

1827
04:19:47,248 --> 04:19:49,627
I think the climax
works beautifully.

1828
04:19:51,413 --> 04:19:53,044
I think that theme of loss

1829
04:19:53,068 --> 04:19:54,286
and coming to terms with loss

1830
04:19:54,310 --> 04:19:57,251
and dealing with
loss is universal.

1831
04:19:57,275 --> 04:20:00,182
My mommy's lost
and I can't find her.

1832
04:20:00,206 --> 04:20:02,389
The "Lady in White",
it fucked me up.

1833
04:20:02,613 --> 04:20:05,382
Seeing it as a kid, in a
way that it just becomes

1834
04:20:05,406 --> 04:20:08,107
like embedded in you,
and become a core memory.

1835
04:20:08,131 --> 04:20:10,451
10-year-old
Melissa N. Montgomery

1836
04:20:10,475 --> 04:20:13,382
was the first victim believed
to have been murdered.

1837
04:20:13,406 --> 04:20:15,520
I'm glad that people
are still discovering

1838
04:20:15,544 --> 04:20:16,544
"Lady in White".

1839
04:20:21,441 --> 04:20:23,451
It continues to remain
somewhat hidden.

1840
04:20:23,475 --> 04:20:24,796
It's fun for me.

1841
04:20:24,820 --> 04:20:26,555
I already told him.

1842
04:20:26,579 --> 04:20:29,200
Her mother is the lady in white.

1843
04:20:38,441 --> 04:20:39,993
I'm awake!

1844
04:20:41,510 --> 04:20:42,658
"Dream Demon".

1845
04:20:42,682 --> 04:20:44,762
The movie was
about the fine line

1846
04:20:44,786 --> 04:20:47,107
between dreams and reality.

1847
04:20:47,131 --> 04:20:50,038
I think I'm awake, and
then I keep waking up.

1848
04:20:50,062 --> 04:20:51,244
This is crazy.

1849
04:20:51,268 --> 04:20:52,520
You better call that
doctor friend of yours.

1850
04:20:52,544 --> 04:20:54,693
My character was
like a punk rock chick

1851
04:20:54,717 --> 04:20:57,382
connected to this English girl.

1852
04:20:57,406 --> 04:20:58,693
Wake up, Diana!

1853
04:20:58,717 --> 04:20:59,589
Come on!

1854
04:20:59,613 --> 04:21:00,383
Wake up!

1855
04:21:00,407 --> 04:21:01,969
Diana, please!

1856
04:21:01,993 --> 04:21:04,934
Ultimately we realized
that through our dreams

1857
04:21:04,958 --> 04:21:08,003
and in our ability to
crawl into our dreams,

1858
04:21:08,027 --> 04:21:10,786
I think that we
ended up bonding.

1859
04:21:11,682 --> 04:21:12,487
Cheers.

1860
04:21:12,511 --> 04:21:13,624
Now wake up!

1861
04:21:13,648 --> 04:21:15,486
Come on, wake up!

1862
04:21:15,510 --> 04:21:16,349
Wake up!

1863
04:21:16,373 --> 04:21:17,589
Stop!

1864
04:21:17,613 --> 04:21:19,072
I loved working
with Gemma Redgrave.

1865
04:21:19,096 --> 04:21:20,613
She was like my best friend.

1866
04:21:21,717 --> 04:21:23,107
No that's, no that's,
that's very good.

1867
04:21:23,131 --> 04:21:24,958
That's really very good.

1868
04:21:26,131 --> 04:21:28,969
Timothy Spall and Jimmy Nail.

1869
04:21:28,993 --> 04:21:30,900
I remember having
good laughs with them.

1870
04:21:30,924 --> 04:21:32,348
Hey come on, leave her alone.

1871
04:21:32,372 --> 04:21:34,072
What do you think
she is, dog meat?

1872
04:21:34,096 --> 04:21:34,970
Piss off, darling.

1873
04:21:34,994 --> 04:21:36,141
We're the press!

1874
04:21:36,165 --> 04:21:37,924
Oh yeah, well
print this, dickhead!

1875
04:21:38,751 --> 04:21:39,751
It was an adventure,

1876
04:21:40,889 --> 04:21:44,372
some groundbreaking
special effects.

1877
04:21:46,613 --> 04:21:49,038
All of these art director types

1878
04:21:49,062 --> 04:21:51,624
that got to really stretch
out their creativity

1879
04:21:51,648 --> 04:21:55,165
and just be as
gross as possible.

1880
04:21:57,717 --> 04:21:59,486
So I'd be like, huh.

1881
04:21:59,510 --> 04:22:02,406
She's crawling
through slime today.

1882
04:22:06,200 --> 04:22:08,072
The script was peculiar.

1883
04:22:08,096 --> 04:22:09,658
They had so many rewrites,

1884
04:22:09,682 --> 04:22:11,958
and the director
was kind of a nut.

1885
04:22:13,372 --> 04:22:15,624
They wanted me to stand in front

1886
04:22:15,648 --> 04:22:17,969
of these six foot flames.

1887
04:22:17,993 --> 04:22:20,900
It's hot, right?

1888
04:22:20,924 --> 04:22:22,934
The director was like
okay, you're gonna come in

1889
04:22:22,958 --> 04:22:24,934
in front of that
flame, and I'm like,

1890
04:22:24,958 --> 04:22:27,762
how about this, fuck
no I'm not gonna stand

1891
04:22:27,786 --> 04:22:30,072
in front of, and then
he got really mad at me,

1892
04:22:30,096 --> 04:22:31,865
and I was like, I'm not
standing in front of that.

1893
04:22:31,889 --> 04:22:32,969
That is dangerous.

1894
04:22:32,993 --> 04:22:34,072
Forget you.

1895
04:22:34,096 --> 04:22:35,520
You stand in front of it.

1896
04:22:35,544 --> 04:22:36,762
He's like, all right fine!

1897
04:22:36,786 --> 04:22:38,451
He stands in front of it,

1898
04:22:38,475 --> 04:22:40,958
and he singes the
back of his hair.

1899
04:22:44,165 --> 04:22:47,003
I have not worked with
Harley Cokeliss since.

1900
04:22:47,027 --> 04:22:50,958
I don't think I was his
favorite actress.

1901
04:22:52,579 --> 04:22:53,693
Diana!

1902
04:22:53,717 --> 04:22:55,141
The most challenging aspect

1903
04:22:55,165 --> 04:22:56,451
of working on horror films,

1904
04:22:56,475 --> 04:22:58,762
it's me screaming and crying.

1905
04:22:58,786 --> 04:23:03,717
It's me bringing to life my
own personal freaking fear,

1906
04:23:05,165 --> 04:23:06,796
so I guess bringing your
own reality to the screen

1907
04:23:06,820 --> 04:23:08,693
is the trickiest bit.

1908
04:23:08,717 --> 04:23:10,107
But what a blast.

1909
04:23:10,131 --> 04:23:11,313
I'll do it any day of the week.

1910
04:23:11,337 --> 04:23:12,624
Pay me.

1911
04:23:12,648 --> 04:23:13,751
Where's my mark?

1912
04:23:18,786 --> 04:23:20,038
Anybody who thinks
it's a good idea

1913
04:23:20,062 --> 04:23:22,072
to get shaved by a monkey

1914
04:23:22,096 --> 04:23:25,969
needs to reassess
their life plan.

1915
04:23:25,993 --> 04:23:27,176
You're not gonna hurt me.

1916
04:23:27,200 --> 04:23:28,177
I'm part of you.

1917
04:23:28,201 --> 04:23:30,003
"Monkey Shines".

1918
04:23:30,027 --> 04:23:32,141
A leap into terror.

1919
04:23:32,165 --> 04:23:35,313
"Monkey Shines"
is about a mind meld

1920
04:23:35,337 --> 04:23:39,244
between a man, who
suffered a horrible injury,

1921
04:23:39,268 --> 04:23:42,486
and this monkey.

1922
04:23:42,510 --> 04:23:44,210
You're giving me a monkey?

1923
04:23:44,234 --> 04:23:45,900
How am I supposed to
take care of it, Jeff?

1924
04:23:45,924 --> 04:23:47,796
The idea is that it's
gonna take care of you.

1925
04:23:47,820 --> 04:23:50,176
He ends up becoming telepathic

1926
04:23:50,200 --> 04:23:52,624
with this monkey, and
the monkey ends up

1927
04:23:52,648 --> 04:23:54,486
becoming kind of
jealous of the people

1928
04:23:54,510 --> 04:23:56,900
that are close to our main dude.

1929
04:23:56,924 --> 04:23:58,165
Allan-

1930
04:24:01,682 --> 04:24:03,279
And the monkey starts to enact

1931
04:24:03,303 --> 04:24:07,176
a lot of the rage that the
quadriplegic is experiencing,

1932
04:24:07,200 --> 04:24:09,855
and people start to be killed.

1933
04:24:14,648 --> 04:24:17,038
It sounds all very far-fetched,

1934
04:24:17,062 --> 04:24:18,934
but the way that
Romero handles it

1935
04:24:18,958 --> 04:24:21,589
is completely expert,
and a perfect example

1936
04:24:21,613 --> 04:24:23,900
of what a great
filmmaker Romero was,

1937
04:24:23,924 --> 04:24:26,475
even out of the zone of zombies.

1938
04:24:27,820 --> 04:24:29,244
Yeah, yeah.

1939
04:24:29,268 --> 04:24:30,693
I made up a formulation
based on human memory cells.

1940
04:24:30,717 --> 04:24:32,176
I've been injecting
one of my monkeys.

1941
04:24:32,200 --> 04:24:34,176
George sets the tone.

1942
04:24:34,200 --> 04:24:35,486
Come on, give it right here.

1943
04:24:35,510 --> 04:24:36,613
Now, now.

1944
04:24:37,544 --> 04:24:38,452
- Thank you.
- Good girl.

1945
04:24:38,476 --> 04:24:40,200
It was a fun set to be on.

1946
04:24:41,648 --> 04:24:42,865
Jason Beghe.

1947
04:24:42,889 --> 04:24:44,348
I liked Jason a lot.

1948
04:24:44,372 --> 04:24:46,141
He was a very intense guy.

1949
04:24:46,165 --> 04:24:47,279
Don't.

1950
04:24:47,303 --> 04:24:48,142
Do not.

1951
04:24:48,166 --> 04:24:49,406
Don't do it!

1952
04:24:50,579 --> 04:24:51,831
Goddam you, you-

1953
04:24:51,855 --> 04:24:53,624
I think it was a lot
more pressure for him.

1954
04:24:53,648 --> 04:24:56,579
He was carrying
that film, really.

1955
04:25:00,200 --> 04:25:01,313
I love monkeys!

1956
04:25:01,337 --> 04:25:02,865
Monkeys are awesome!

1957
04:25:02,889 --> 04:25:05,176
Well, not so much.

1958
04:25:05,200 --> 04:25:07,855
Kind of scary, really.

1959
04:25:09,062 --> 04:25:11,382
I really wanted to
love the monkeys,

1960
04:25:11,406 --> 04:25:13,141
but truthfully, I
had to really fake

1961
04:25:13,165 --> 04:25:14,555
not being scared.

1962
04:25:14,579 --> 04:25:16,210
Hey, company's here.

1963
04:25:16,234 --> 04:25:17,142
Come on.

1964
04:25:17,166 --> 04:25:18,658
They're very strong.

1965
04:25:18,682 --> 04:25:21,796
In the pivotal scene,
monkey's trying to drug me

1966
04:25:21,820 --> 04:25:24,210
with this hypodermic needle.

1967
04:25:24,234 --> 04:25:26,993
I had to wrestle
with the monkey.

1968
04:25:27,924 --> 04:25:29,382
And a lot of that was a puppet.

1969
04:25:29,406 --> 04:25:31,727
But there was one short time

1970
04:25:31,751 --> 04:25:33,658
where I was actually holding on

1971
04:25:33,682 --> 04:25:34,589
to a real monkey.

1972
04:25:34,613 --> 04:25:35,613
Ella, no!

1973
04:25:39,820 --> 04:25:41,693
I can't say I had a lot
of affection for them.

1974
04:25:41,717 --> 04:25:43,096
But I faked it really well.

1975
04:25:44,372 --> 04:25:46,141
And we had that love scene

1976
04:25:46,165 --> 04:25:49,038
that was one of the
more challenging scenes

1977
04:25:49,062 --> 04:25:50,337
I've ever had to do.

1978
04:25:51,475 --> 04:25:54,107
As a young boy,
watching that sequence

1979
04:25:54,131 --> 04:25:57,003
and wondering about how this guy

1980
04:25:57,027 --> 04:25:59,969
was going to have an
encounter with this woman

1981
04:25:59,993 --> 04:26:01,176
that we knew he liked,

1982
04:26:01,200 --> 04:26:03,348
and the way that happened,

1983
04:26:03,372 --> 04:26:05,176
the harness thing for his bed,

1984
04:26:05,200 --> 04:26:10,176
and this monkey's watching,
like getting angry.

1985
04:26:10,200 --> 04:26:12,268
That movie's messed up, man.

1986
04:26:13,579 --> 04:26:14,693
We were in it together,

1987
04:26:14,717 --> 04:26:16,141
and we got through it.

1988
04:26:16,165 --> 04:26:17,658
I do believe we
drank a little bit

1989
04:26:17,682 --> 04:26:20,658
of champagne during it to relax,

1990
04:26:20,682 --> 04:26:25,520
because it's so hard, these
intimate scenes, you know?

1991
04:26:25,544 --> 04:26:26,993
With a crew.

1992
04:26:28,924 --> 04:26:31,658
It's a scene I'm
actually pretty proud of.

1993
04:26:31,682 --> 04:26:33,382
"Monkey Shines"
is George Romero's

1994
04:26:33,406 --> 04:26:34,865
first studio movie.

1995
04:26:34,889 --> 04:26:37,486
The movie was taken
away from him and recut,

1996
04:26:37,510 --> 04:26:40,027
after he added things
that they asked for.

1997
04:26:41,682 --> 04:26:43,589
The original ending
was much darker,

1998
04:26:43,613 --> 04:26:45,313
and they hated that.

1999
04:26:45,337 --> 04:26:48,486
I wish we could see
George's original vision.

2000
04:26:48,510 --> 04:26:50,900
It's what happens when
you work for a studio.

2001
04:26:50,924 --> 04:26:52,210
The movie's not yours.

2002
04:26:52,234 --> 04:26:55,279
Even if it wasn't
appreciated at the time,

2003
04:26:55,303 --> 04:26:57,831
I think anybody who
appreciates George

2004
04:26:57,855 --> 04:27:00,486
is gonna take another
look at any of his work.

2005
04:27:00,510 --> 04:27:02,200
It's an interesting story.

2006
04:27:03,579 --> 04:27:06,038
It has survived better
than I would have thought

2007
04:27:06,062 --> 04:27:08,200
at the time, that's for sure.

2008
04:27:16,889 --> 04:27:18,176
"Black Roses".

2009
04:27:18,200 --> 04:27:22,176
The hottest band
this side of hell.

2010
04:27:22,200 --> 04:27:24,176
A big heavy metal band is coming

2011
04:27:24,200 --> 04:27:26,003
to do a series of concerts,

2012
04:27:26,027 --> 04:27:29,176
and the parents in the town
are very much against it,

2013
04:27:29,200 --> 04:27:31,820
because you know, rock and
roll leads to the devil.

2014
04:27:32,958 --> 04:27:35,417
The fact that we had
Julie Adams in the movie

2015
04:27:35,441 --> 04:27:37,520
was a thrill for all
of us monster kids,

2016
04:27:37,544 --> 04:27:40,520
because she was in "The
Creature from the Black Lagoon".

2017
04:27:40,544 --> 04:27:43,486
Their satanic music
and subversive lyrics

2018
04:27:43,510 --> 04:27:47,003
threaten to undermine the
very fabric of our society.

2019
04:27:47,027 --> 04:27:48,451
John Fasano.

2020
04:27:48,475 --> 04:27:50,648
We did four movies
in four years.

2021
04:27:52,062 --> 04:27:55,520
John and I had known each
other since elementary school.

2022
04:27:55,544 --> 04:27:57,210
And so now, here
comes the biggest thing

2023
04:27:57,234 --> 04:28:00,486
to hit Mill Basin ever,
and they try to stop it?

2024
04:28:00,510 --> 04:28:02,107
You call that good?

2025
04:28:02,131 --> 04:28:06,210
When the investors saw
the first cut of the film,

2026
04:28:06,234 --> 04:28:08,727
they were like,
it's a little short.

2027
04:28:08,751 --> 04:28:11,993
It needs more monsters,
and more boobs.

2028
04:28:13,717 --> 04:28:16,831
So we shot these
additional sequences.

2029
04:28:16,855 --> 04:28:20,406
I did do some special
effects for the reshoot.

2030
04:28:21,682 --> 04:28:24,900
John wanted her hand
to be starting to look

2031
04:28:24,924 --> 04:28:29,924
like it was changing, so
I sculpted an appliance.

2032
04:28:31,337 --> 04:28:33,520
She's there, and she's sort of
caressing herself like this,

2033
04:28:33,544 --> 04:28:37,372
and I'm just going like,
nobody's looking at that hand.

2034
04:28:42,062 --> 04:28:44,717
Mike Maddi designed
this creature.

2035
04:28:49,234 --> 04:28:50,934
It was like bald, and
had these huge fangs,

2036
04:28:50,958 --> 04:28:54,303
and these long, sinewy
arms, and talons.

2037
04:28:55,786 --> 04:28:59,717
And it took five of us
to work that puppet.

2038
04:29:03,372 --> 04:29:04,796
It's definitely a major leap

2039
04:29:04,820 --> 04:29:07,279
from "Rock 'n' Roll Nightmare"
in terms of the effects.

2040
04:29:07,303 --> 04:29:10,165
The record starts bubbling up.

2041
04:29:12,234 --> 04:29:13,762
What the fuck?

2042
04:29:13,786 --> 04:29:17,200
And then it becomes this
creature that attacks him.

2043
04:29:21,889 --> 04:29:24,279
Probably the best
effect in the movie,

2044
04:29:24,303 --> 04:29:28,934
listening to metal, and metal
inviting in this monster.

2045
04:29:28,958 --> 04:29:32,096
It's clearly playing
on satanic panic.

2046
04:29:36,303 --> 04:29:38,865
Maybe the parents in
the PTA have a point,

2047
04:29:38,889 --> 04:29:41,141
and this is Satan music.

2048
04:29:41,165 --> 04:29:42,337
So that's kind of funny.

2049
04:29:43,337 --> 04:29:44,337
Let's make blood city!

2050
04:29:48,234 --> 04:29:50,589
"Black Roses", yeah the
band actually are from hell.

2051
04:29:50,613 --> 04:29:52,210
What do you know?

2052
04:29:52,234 --> 04:29:53,475
We are the Black Roses.

2053
04:29:54,855 --> 04:29:57,279
The flowers of evil!

2054
04:29:57,303 --> 04:29:59,200
You have been chosen.

2055
04:30:08,096 --> 04:30:09,313
"The Brain".

2056
04:30:09,337 --> 04:30:10,520
What I love about that title

2057
04:30:10,544 --> 04:30:12,589
is that nobody
would second guess

2058
04:30:12,613 --> 04:30:14,417
that a movie called "The Brain"

2059
04:30:14,441 --> 04:30:17,303
is about a brain
that kills people.

2060
04:30:23,993 --> 04:30:27,451
The plot revolves around
this evil scientist

2061
04:30:27,475 --> 04:30:29,589
played by David Gale,
who you might remember

2062
04:30:29,613 --> 04:30:32,348
as the professor
in "Re-Animator".

2063
04:30:32,372 --> 04:30:33,372
I will be famous!

2064
04:30:37,096 --> 04:30:40,727
He runs this TV show
that brainwashes people,

2065
04:30:40,751 --> 04:30:42,762
and gains control of their minds

2066
04:30:42,786 --> 04:30:45,176
with the help of this
weird brain monster,

2067
04:30:45,200 --> 04:30:47,693
and then there's this
rebel high school student,

2068
04:30:47,717 --> 04:30:50,348
who's the only one who
can resist the brain's

2069
04:30:50,372 --> 04:30:53,062
mind controlling power,
and save the day.

2070
04:30:54,682 --> 04:30:55,900
You can go now.

2071
04:30:55,924 --> 04:30:57,210
What the hell happened to me?

2072
04:30:57,234 --> 04:31:00,038
But not without some
horrific hallucinations.

2073
04:31:00,062 --> 04:31:02,210
The protagonist,
he's driving the car,

2074
04:31:02,234 --> 04:31:05,624
and the brain is sort
of taking over his mind.

2075
04:31:05,648 --> 04:31:07,176
I mean, could you imagine that?

2076
04:31:07,200 --> 04:31:08,382
If you're driving a car,

2077
04:31:08,406 --> 04:31:10,510
and then you just see
a video wipe transition

2078
04:31:11,441 --> 04:31:12,924
turn into a brain?

2079
04:31:13,786 --> 04:31:15,200
Holy shit.

2080
04:31:21,093 --> 04:31:22,551
Look at that brain.

2081
04:31:22,675 --> 04:31:24,376
You can't tell how
it moves around.

2082
04:31:24,500 --> 04:31:26,407
All you see is
this enormous face

2083
04:31:26,431 --> 04:31:28,327
coming after people.

2084
04:31:30,844 --> 04:31:34,224
It's kind of scary, but
it's also really funny.

2085
04:31:39,500 --> 04:31:40,717
That's food for thought.

2086
04:31:40,741 --> 04:31:42,338
I mean, you just
look at that thing,

2087
04:31:42,362 --> 04:31:44,189
and you gotta love it.

2088
04:31:45,500 --> 04:31:47,820
So there's this toy and
a cartoon in the 80s

2089
04:31:47,844 --> 04:31:49,441
called Madballs.

2090
04:31:49,465 --> 04:31:50,993
Madballs, Madballs!

2091
04:31:51,017 --> 04:31:52,924
Gross for one, gross for all!

2092
04:31:52,948 --> 04:31:54,544
We play with a Madball!

2093
04:31:54,568 --> 04:31:55,855
They're gross!

2094
04:31:55,879 --> 04:31:56,821
That's what the
brain looks like.

2095
04:31:56,845 --> 04:31:59,465
It's a giant Madball attacking.

2096
04:32:12,120 --> 04:32:14,717
I worked in Madrid
on a wonderful film

2097
04:32:14,741 --> 04:32:16,234
called "Howl of the Devil".

2098
04:32:16,258 --> 04:32:17,476
I love Spain.

2099
04:32:17,500 --> 04:32:18,579
I've done quite a
bit of work in Spain

2100
04:32:18,603 --> 04:32:21,086
with Sinbad, and various things.

2101
04:32:25,500 --> 04:32:28,165
Paul Naschy, both
directing and as an actor

2102
04:32:28,189 --> 04:32:29,097
in his own right.

2103
04:32:29,121 --> 04:32:31,327
He had such presence on camera.

2104
04:32:39,224 --> 04:32:42,431
Menacing presence, but
he was very charismatic.

2105
04:32:50,327 --> 04:32:51,889
And I'd be speaking
English to him,

2106
04:32:51,913 --> 04:32:54,431
and in post, they'd dub him.

2107
04:32:59,465 --> 04:33:01,372
The plot basically was this man,

2108
04:33:01,396 --> 04:33:03,993
by day, he was quite
normal, head of the house,

2109
04:33:04,017 --> 04:33:06,407
and he had his
lovely son, Sergio.

2110
04:33:06,431 --> 04:33:08,407
And I was the maid
that came to clean up,

2111
04:33:08,431 --> 04:33:10,820
and look after the
son, basically.

2112
04:33:10,844 --> 04:33:12,820
But then by night,
he would change

2113
04:33:12,844 --> 04:33:14,993
into these wonderful characters.

2114
04:33:15,017 --> 04:33:18,717
He became Frankenstein,
he became the wolf man.

2115
04:33:18,741 --> 04:33:20,775
These very strange characters.

2116
04:33:28,224 --> 04:33:30,200
Some of the sequences
we had to do

2117
04:33:30,224 --> 04:33:32,820
the man with a
great big chainsaw

2118
04:33:32,844 --> 04:33:34,682
that came running after us.

2119
04:33:34,706 --> 04:33:38,017
No!

2120
04:33:39,431 --> 04:33:40,648
Carmen.

2121
04:33:40,672 --> 04:33:42,303
I liked her, because
she was very proud.

2122
04:33:42,327 --> 04:33:44,234
Quite a holy Catholic lady.

2123
04:33:44,258 --> 04:33:46,372
And then the priest,
who was a lovely

2124
04:33:46,396 --> 04:33:47,948
sweet, sweet actor.

2125
04:33:50,948 --> 04:33:53,568
Was trying to molest
her, to attack her.

2126
04:33:55,086 --> 04:33:56,751
It was quite an emotional
scene, actually, for me.

2127
04:33:56,775 --> 04:33:58,751
And for him, because
he was so upset.

2128
04:33:58,775 --> 04:34:00,544
He spoke English, he
said I'm so sorry,

2129
04:34:00,568 --> 04:34:02,062
he says, so sorry.

2130
04:34:02,086 --> 04:34:04,362
Paul want me to do this,
and I don't want to do it.

2131
04:34:05,500 --> 04:34:07,131
I said, we'll make it
look as good as we can,

2132
04:34:07,155 --> 04:34:09,924
but I might push you
and punch you a bit.

2133
04:34:09,948 --> 04:34:10,889
He said, that's okay.

2134
04:34:10,913 --> 04:34:11,718
He said, I don't mind.

2135
04:34:11,742 --> 04:34:13,269
You do what you do.

2136
04:34:13,293 --> 04:34:14,682
So then we went for it,

2137
04:34:14,706 --> 04:34:17,534
and I managed to get
away from him, basically.

2138
04:34:22,879 --> 04:34:25,372
It felt like one of
my better scenes,

2139
04:34:25,396 --> 04:34:28,579
because she was in a really
state of distress before it,

2140
04:34:28,603 --> 04:34:30,579
and this exacerbated it,

2141
04:34:30,603 --> 04:34:32,568
made it far worse for her.

2142
04:34:37,327 --> 04:34:40,338
Paul was, to me, the
king of Spanish cinema.

2143
04:34:40,362 --> 04:34:41,339
He absolutely was.

2144
04:34:41,363 --> 04:34:43,327
People loved him.

2145
04:34:57,741 --> 04:34:59,234
When we talk about genre,
and we try to put things

2146
04:34:59,258 --> 04:35:01,786
in boxes, one of the ways
we got in trouble very early

2147
04:35:01,910 --> 04:35:04,875
was we conflated a
setting with a feeling.

2148
04:35:06,041 --> 04:35:07,672
Horror is an emotion.

2149
04:35:07,796 --> 04:35:10,151
So you can have a
horror in space.

2150
04:35:10,175 --> 04:35:11,531
You can horror in the old west.

2151
04:35:11,555 --> 04:35:12,807
You can have horror in a comedy.

2152
04:35:13,231 --> 04:35:16,175
It looked like this!

2153
04:35:17,817 --> 04:35:19,827
Horror is about a
feeling that you evoke

2154
04:35:19,851 --> 04:35:21,241
in your audience.

2155
04:35:21,265 --> 04:35:22,265
Lollipops!

2156
04:35:24,162 --> 04:35:27,379
And all free today!

2157
04:35:27,403 --> 04:35:29,379
Horror is a more flexible genre

2158
04:35:29,403 --> 04:35:32,344
than people realize, and
oftentimes it can be found

2159
04:35:32,368 --> 04:35:35,379
hiding within other
genres, nested in there,

2160
04:35:35,403 --> 04:35:37,541
waiting to strike at any moment.

2161
04:35:39,679 --> 04:35:41,448
Fear is always there.

2162
04:35:41,472 --> 04:35:44,000
It's just one decision,
or one thought,

2163
04:35:44,024 --> 04:35:47,069
or one perspective away from
being right in your face.

2164
04:35:47,093 --> 04:35:49,472
Any movie could suddenly
become a horror movie.

2165
04:35:51,575 --> 04:35:52,724
You're dead.

2166
04:35:52,748 --> 04:35:54,517
Horror is catching
you off guard,

2167
04:35:54,541 --> 04:35:56,931
and taking you off
your axis somewhat.

2168
04:35:56,955 --> 04:35:57,955
No!

2169
04:36:04,610 --> 04:36:05,896
The horror has been
a part of our lives,

2170
04:36:05,920 --> 04:36:07,138
new just didn't know it.

2171
04:36:07,162 --> 04:36:09,172
It was dressed up
in fairy tales.

2172
04:36:09,196 --> 04:36:10,586
But it's always
been a part of us,

2173
04:36:10,610 --> 04:36:12,862
because fear and darkness

2174
04:36:12,886 --> 04:36:14,379
is always a part of your life.

2175
04:36:14,403 --> 04:36:15,403
It's part of life.

2176
04:36:16,334 --> 04:36:18,034
Disney goes very dark.

2177
04:36:18,058 --> 04:36:19,931
"Pinocchio", for instance.

2178
04:36:19,955 --> 04:36:21,575
The Pleasure Island scene.

2179
04:36:22,817 --> 04:36:25,207
Bad little boys doing
bad little things,

2180
04:36:25,231 --> 04:36:27,793
smoking cigars, gambling,

2181
04:36:27,817 --> 04:36:29,655
until they turn into donkeys,

2182
04:36:29,679 --> 04:36:31,138
because it's a cautionary tale.

2183
04:36:31,162 --> 04:36:33,793
They're doing the shit they're
not supposed to be doing,

2184
04:36:33,817 --> 04:36:35,437
and they just
start transforming.

2185
04:36:36,541 --> 04:36:37,886
What do I do?

2186
04:36:38,782 --> 04:36:39,827
"Willy Wonka".

2187
04:36:39,851 --> 04:36:42,000
Not a horror movie, per se.

2188
04:36:42,024 --> 04:36:43,689
Does it have horror elements?

2189
04:36:43,713 --> 04:36:45,793
Abso-fucking-lutely.

2190
04:36:45,817 --> 04:36:48,276
Round the world and home again!

2191
04:36:48,300 --> 04:36:50,172
That's the sailor's way!

2192
04:36:50,196 --> 04:36:53,172
The horrific
nightmare boat sequence,

2193
04:36:53,196 --> 04:36:54,896
where he's just staring deadpan,

2194
04:36:54,920 --> 04:36:57,310
and starts singing
that weird song.

2195
04:36:57,334 --> 04:37:00,310
♪ There's no earthly
way of knowing ♪

2196
04:37:00,334 --> 04:37:01,758
He's singing.

2197
04:37:01,782 --> 04:37:03,724
And there's like,
these horrible projection

2198
04:37:03,748 --> 04:37:05,093
that are happening.

2199
04:37:07,162 --> 04:37:09,344
As a child, I was sitting
there watching this

2200
04:37:09,368 --> 04:37:11,586
thinking what the
fuck is happening?

2201
04:37:11,610 --> 04:37:13,034
Now I am gonna be sick!

2202
04:37:13,058 --> 04:37:14,655
Never mind the fact
that these children

2203
04:37:14,679 --> 04:37:16,758
are just getting
offed, one by one.

2204
04:37:16,782 --> 04:37:18,679
It's kind of like
a slasher movie.

2205
04:37:19,506 --> 04:37:20,931
She was a bad egg.

2206
04:37:20,955 --> 04:37:23,862
I seem to find horror
in every film I see

2207
04:37:23,886 --> 04:37:25,782
at some point.

2208
04:37:27,127 --> 04:37:29,655
Any time you're writing
interesting characters,

2209
04:37:29,679 --> 04:37:31,034
they're gonna have a dark side,

2210
04:37:31,058 --> 04:37:33,793
and so if you get some
people with problems,

2211
04:37:33,817 --> 04:37:36,103
and issues, and
anger, and stuff,

2212
04:37:36,127 --> 04:37:38,689
then you have a
dangerous situation,

2213
04:37:38,713 --> 04:37:40,817
and that's scary.

2214
04:37:42,541 --> 04:37:44,344
We might not call
"Blue Velvet" horror,

2215
04:37:44,368 --> 04:37:46,413
but I do know it was
covered in Fangoria.

2216
04:37:46,437 --> 04:37:48,207
David Lynch is bouncing
in and out of horror

2217
04:37:48,231 --> 04:37:49,689
throughout all of his films,

2218
04:37:49,713 --> 04:37:51,482
and I think horror fans,

2219
04:37:51,506 --> 04:37:52,896
our antenna perked up.

2220
04:37:52,920 --> 04:37:55,310
It delivers horror
probably more effectively

2221
04:37:55,334 --> 04:37:57,896
than half the movies sitting
in the horror section

2222
04:37:57,920 --> 04:37:58,989
at the video store.

2223
04:38:00,989 --> 04:38:02,207
The severed ear moment.

2224
04:38:02,231 --> 04:38:03,344
The camera moves in.

2225
04:38:03,368 --> 04:38:04,277
There's ants on it.

2226
04:38:04,301 --> 04:38:06,207
It's incredibly graphic.

2227
04:38:06,231 --> 04:38:07,782
That's a pure horror moment.

2228
04:38:10,265 --> 04:38:11,965
Don't you fucking look at me!

2229
04:38:11,989 --> 04:38:14,793
Frank Booth is one of
the great horror villains.

2230
04:38:14,817 --> 04:38:17,758
He was terrifying, because
he was unpredictable.

2231
04:38:17,782 --> 04:38:20,413
He was a madman,
and it felt unsafe

2232
04:38:20,437 --> 04:38:22,655
in a way that by, say, 1986,

2233
04:38:22,679 --> 04:38:24,437
a lot of our movie
slashers didn't.

2234
04:38:25,644 --> 04:38:27,758
Does horror even
need to be scary?

2235
04:38:27,782 --> 04:38:30,034
It just has to disturb
you in some kind of way.

2236
04:38:30,058 --> 04:38:31,276
What's cool about the 1980s

2237
04:38:31,300 --> 04:38:33,586
is horror was so
big, that it actually

2238
04:38:33,610 --> 04:38:35,817
infiltrated other genres.

2239
04:38:36,748 --> 04:38:39,172
Ow!

2240
04:38:39,196 --> 04:38:40,517
I'm glad to see
you finally made it

2241
04:38:40,541 --> 04:38:42,207
to the suburbs, bitch!

2242
04:38:42,231 --> 04:38:44,689
My first horror
film, "Return to Oz".

2243
04:38:44,713 --> 04:38:46,862
It's like mombie
taking her heads off,

2244
04:38:46,886 --> 04:38:48,300
screaming, the wheelers.

2245
04:38:50,506 --> 04:38:51,724
Come here!

2246
04:38:51,748 --> 04:38:53,620
It can be a character,

2247
04:38:53,644 --> 04:38:55,965
like one person in that
film brings the horror.

2248
04:38:55,989 --> 04:38:57,955
The judge in "Roger
Rabbit", right?

2249
04:38:58,886 --> 04:39:00,379
When I killed your brother,

2250
04:39:00,403 --> 04:39:02,403
I talked just like this!

2251
04:39:05,368 --> 04:39:07,482
"Indiana Jones and
the Temple of Doom",

2252
04:39:07,506 --> 04:39:11,586
looking as a human hand
plunged into the chest

2253
04:39:11,610 --> 04:39:14,413
of a sacrificial victim,
and the beating heart

2254
04:39:14,437 --> 04:39:15,655
was ripped out.

2255
04:39:15,679 --> 04:39:19,207
This horrifying
ritual really held

2256
04:39:19,231 --> 04:39:20,851
all the elements of horror.

2257
04:39:25,644 --> 04:39:27,413
A movie that scared
the crap out of me

2258
04:39:27,437 --> 04:39:30,093
when I was little was "The Wiz".

2259
04:39:34,989 --> 04:39:37,138
My favorite movie of all
time was "Wizard of Oz",

2260
04:39:37,162 --> 04:39:38,551
which is also pretty scary.

2261
04:39:38,575 --> 04:39:39,586
You know, you get to
those winged monkeys,

2262
04:39:39,610 --> 04:39:41,334
and it's like, terror.

2263
04:39:44,058 --> 04:39:44,965
Help, help!

2264
04:39:44,989 --> 04:39:45,989
Help!

2265
04:39:47,162 --> 04:39:49,448
"The Dark Crystal",
"The Black Cauldron",

2266
04:39:49,472 --> 04:39:51,586
like animation, horror.

2267
04:39:51,610 --> 04:39:53,034
The field.

2268
04:39:53,058 --> 04:39:55,058
It's covered with blood.

2269
04:39:59,162 --> 04:40:01,207
These movies have
elements of horror,

2270
04:40:01,231 --> 04:40:02,713
and that's what we grew up on.

2271
04:40:04,886 --> 04:40:08,000
The psyche can do crazy
things to you, as well.

2272
04:40:08,024 --> 04:40:09,448
Your thoughts can
turn dark on you,

2273
04:40:09,472 --> 04:40:11,827
and that's also scary,
and a person that you know

2274
04:40:11,851 --> 04:40:14,138
can change on you,
and that's scary.

2275
04:40:14,162 --> 04:40:15,551
Aging is scary.

2276
04:40:15,575 --> 04:40:17,034
Dreams are scary.

2277
04:40:17,058 --> 04:40:17,932
The dark is scary.

2278
04:40:17,956 --> 04:40:19,689
There's dark every day.

2279
04:40:19,813 --> 04:40:22,582
It's gonna get dark every day.

2280
04:40:22,806 --> 04:40:24,186
It's gonna get scary.

2281
04:40:25,255 --> 04:40:26,059
Wait!

2282
04:40:26,083 --> 04:40:27,093
Ow!

2283
04:40:27,117 --> 04:40:31,369
Get away!

2284
04:40:31,393 --> 04:40:32,600
Horror is everywhere.

2285
04:40:33,703 --> 04:40:34,703
It's everywhere.

2286
04:40:47,289 --> 04:40:50,541
"Things" a horrifying sensation

2287
04:40:50,565 --> 04:40:53,438
that'll rip apart your soul.

2288
04:40:53,462 --> 04:40:56,300
A lot of people know
that Canadian horror movies

2289
04:40:56,324 --> 04:40:58,300
are Canadian just because
they're in English,

2290
04:40:58,324 --> 04:41:00,748
so they get lumped in
with American ones,

2291
04:41:00,772 --> 04:41:01,955
but don't be fooled.

2292
04:41:01,979 --> 04:41:03,438
Just because Canadians
have a reputation

2293
04:41:03,462 --> 04:41:05,679
for being polite doesn't
mean our horror movies are.

2294
04:41:05,703 --> 04:41:08,058
Canada actually made a
lot of slasher movies

2295
04:41:08,082 --> 04:41:09,507
in the 80s, which
is appropriate,

2296
04:41:09,531 --> 04:41:10,955
because we helped
start the genre

2297
04:41:10,979 --> 04:41:13,737
with the original "Black
Christmas" back in the 70s.

2298
04:41:15,289 --> 04:41:17,082
Why should America
have all the fun?

2299
04:41:18,255 --> 04:41:20,438
In addition to all those
great slasher movies,

2300
04:41:20,462 --> 04:41:23,403
Canada was also responsible
for making this movie

2301
04:41:23,427 --> 04:41:25,507
called "Things",
which has been called

2302
04:41:25,531 --> 04:41:27,772
one of the worst
movies ever made.

2303
04:41:32,806 --> 04:41:34,093
Oh no!

2304
04:41:34,117 --> 04:41:35,438
What did I do?

2305
04:41:35,462 --> 04:41:38,024
These two idiots sit
around and drink beer

2306
04:41:38,048 --> 04:41:40,369
for a little bit, and
then all of a sudden,

2307
04:41:40,393 --> 04:41:43,393
these weird ant thingies
invade their home.

2308
04:41:46,634 --> 04:41:48,334
Oh my god!

2309
04:41:48,358 --> 04:41:49,358
Susan!

2310
04:41:50,220 --> 04:41:52,300
It's not a horror comedy,

2311
04:41:52,324 --> 04:41:54,576
but I'd be hard pressed
to find something funnier,

2312
04:41:54,600 --> 04:41:56,462
because it's fucking terrible.

2313
04:42:03,117 --> 04:42:06,576
The whole thing has a very
home movie quality to it.

2314
04:42:06,600 --> 04:42:08,955
Everything looks homemade,
like the little ants

2315
04:42:08,979 --> 04:42:11,196
looks like they're made
out of paper mache,

2316
04:42:11,220 --> 04:42:13,507
the blood looks like
they mixed food coloring

2317
04:42:13,531 --> 04:42:14,748
and corn syrup.

2318
04:42:14,772 --> 04:42:17,265
Mm, that's human
blood, all right.

2319
04:42:17,289 --> 04:42:19,886
"Things" might just
be the most Canadian

2320
04:42:19,910 --> 04:42:21,748
movie ever made, and
I don't just mean

2321
04:42:21,772 --> 04:42:23,507
most Canadian horror movie,

2322
04:42:23,531 --> 04:42:27,024
I mean the most
Canadian movie, period.

2323
04:42:27,048 --> 04:42:28,048
Oh thanks, man.

2324
04:42:28,806 --> 04:42:29,989
You can practically smell

2325
04:42:30,013 --> 04:42:31,955
the half empty Molson bottles,

2326
04:42:31,979 --> 04:42:34,162
watching this movie.

2327
04:42:34,186 --> 04:42:37,782
Blood is just dripping
like maple syrup!

2328
04:42:37,806 --> 04:42:39,334
The big selling
point for "Things"

2329
04:42:39,358 --> 04:42:42,196
is that Ginger Lynn is in
it, the famous porn star.

2330
04:42:42,220 --> 04:42:43,886
But when you see the
movie, she's not doing

2331
04:42:43,910 --> 04:42:45,920
anything porn related.

2332
04:42:45,944 --> 04:42:48,093
She's like a newscaster
for, I don't know,

2333
04:42:48,117 --> 04:42:50,024
30 seconds at the
beginning of the movie.

2334
04:42:50,048 --> 04:42:51,576
They probably took
whatever budget they had

2335
04:42:51,600 --> 04:42:53,334
and gave her half of it,

2336
04:42:53,358 --> 04:42:55,151
so what, two grand maybe.

2337
04:42:57,186 --> 04:42:59,334
At the end of the
movie, they start killing

2338
04:42:59,358 --> 04:43:01,265
these weird ant things
with a chainsaw,

2339
04:43:01,289 --> 04:43:03,093
and spraying fake
blood everywhere.

2340
04:43:03,117 --> 04:43:04,403
I really hope the
guys who made it

2341
04:43:04,427 --> 04:43:06,507
got their damage deposit
back on the place

2342
04:43:06,531 --> 04:43:07,841
they were staying.

2343
04:43:09,875 --> 04:43:10,852
But now that everyone seems

2344
04:43:10,876 --> 04:43:12,955
to be talking about it again,

2345
04:43:12,979 --> 04:43:17,979
do I dare subject myself to
the ridiculosity of "Things"?

2346
04:43:19,151 --> 04:43:20,841
I'll be okay!

2347
04:43:30,737 --> 04:43:33,369
The situation in
Venice is now critical.

2348
04:43:33,393 --> 04:43:35,886
A giant toxic cloud has
settled over the city,

2349
04:43:35,910 --> 04:43:38,162
and is slowly destroying
every form of life.

2350
04:43:38,186 --> 04:43:40,369
I'm in an infamous movie

2351
04:43:40,393 --> 04:43:42,300
that has several
different titles.

2352
04:43:42,324 --> 04:43:44,610
"Shocking Dark",
AKA "Terminator",

2353
04:43:44,634 --> 04:43:46,186
or da-da-da-da-da.

2354
04:43:47,600 --> 04:43:50,955
The movie originally was
called "Shocking Magenta".

2355
04:43:50,979 --> 04:43:52,196
How are you gonna
translate that?

2356
04:43:52,220 --> 04:43:53,713
That doesn't work
in any language.

2357
04:43:53,737 --> 04:43:54,817
That's not the only name

2358
04:43:54,841 --> 04:43:56,369
it's called "Contaminator".

2359
04:43:56,393 --> 04:43:58,817
"The Killers of Venice Beach".

2360
04:43:58,841 --> 04:44:01,231
It has lots of names,
and that has something

2361
04:44:01,255 --> 04:44:02,541
to do with distribution.

2362
04:44:02,565 --> 04:44:05,576
Venice before the year 2000.

2363
04:44:05,600 --> 04:44:08,196
"Shocking Dark" is a
movie where the filmmakers

2364
04:44:08,220 --> 04:44:11,610
attempt to warn
people of the hazards

2365
04:44:11,634 --> 04:44:13,782
of industrial pollution.

2366
04:44:13,806 --> 04:44:16,531
Fear fighting
against the unknown.

2367
04:44:17,462 --> 04:44:18,610
Hurry!

2368
04:44:18,634 --> 04:44:20,610
They're coming, they're coming!

2369
04:44:20,634 --> 04:44:22,851
My character in "Shocking Dark"

2370
04:44:22,875 --> 04:44:24,576
is Lieutenant Koster,

2371
04:44:24,600 --> 04:44:27,748
and I'm telling all
these guys what to do.

2372
04:44:27,772 --> 04:44:29,817
All right, you bunch of pussies!

2373
04:44:29,841 --> 04:44:32,817
I'm back, and I'm kicking ass!

2374
04:44:32,841 --> 04:44:35,334
And I'm not politically
correct about it,

2375
04:44:35,358 --> 04:44:37,610
and I don't care,
but it's because

2376
04:44:37,634 --> 04:44:39,058
they're my guys.

2377
04:44:39,082 --> 04:44:39,990
Careful, baby.

2378
04:44:40,014 --> 04:44:41,472
That thing just might go off!

2379
04:44:41,496 --> 04:44:43,955
They're sending us into
the depths of Venice.

2380
04:44:43,979 --> 04:44:46,610
My impression is
they're gonna find out

2381
04:44:46,634 --> 04:44:49,748
it's a creature
from another planet.

2382
04:44:49,772 --> 04:44:52,231
I can't say that
was exactly the plot

2383
04:44:52,255 --> 04:44:54,462
when I started the movie.

2384
04:44:55,427 --> 04:44:57,048
And they're waiting for you!

2385
04:44:59,324 --> 04:45:00,232
Who are they?

2386
04:45:00,256 --> 04:45:01,438
What are you talking about?

2387
04:45:01,462 --> 04:45:03,507
It's a sandwich
that didn't even have

2388
04:45:03,531 --> 04:45:04,644
a whole loaf of bread.

2389
04:45:04,668 --> 04:45:06,851
So it starts out pumpernickel,

2390
04:45:06,875 --> 04:45:08,851
and then it ends up a brioche,

2391
04:45:08,975 --> 04:45:10,986
and then it's a slice of pizza.

2392
04:45:11,110 --> 04:45:13,593
Can't you smell
that stink of shit?

2393
04:45:16,489 --> 04:45:17,707
The creatures in
"Shocking Dark".

2394
04:45:17,731 --> 04:45:20,155
I have been told
they remind people

2395
04:45:20,179 --> 04:45:22,120
of the creature from "Alien",

2396
04:45:22,144 --> 04:45:23,879
but when I was in the movie,

2397
04:45:23,903 --> 04:45:25,362
and as the movie was told to me,

2398
04:45:25,386 --> 04:45:27,120
by the director, Bruno Mattei,

2399
04:45:27,144 --> 04:45:29,155
he intended it to be more

2400
04:45:29,179 --> 04:45:31,455
of "The Creature From
the Black Lagoon".

2401
04:45:35,317 --> 04:45:37,569
We're chemically dumping in
the waters around Venice,

2402
04:45:37,593 --> 04:45:41,396
so originally the
concept was this thing,

2403
04:45:41,420 --> 04:45:42,776
maybe it got radiated,

2404
04:45:42,800 --> 04:45:44,972
because that's what they
were kind of thinking.

2405
04:45:46,317 --> 04:45:48,075
Something wraps around my neck.

2406
04:45:51,627 --> 04:45:52,879
Go back and watch carefully.

2407
04:45:52,903 --> 04:45:54,603
So this hand is going oh, oh,

2408
04:45:54,627 --> 04:45:56,707
and this hand from
below is wrapping around

2409
04:45:56,731 --> 04:45:59,120
my own neck, and
I'm going like that.

2410
04:45:59,144 --> 04:46:00,776
So every time
somebody says to me

2411
04:46:00,800 --> 04:46:03,293
it's a ripoff of "Alien"
and "Terminator",

2412
04:46:03,317 --> 04:46:05,707
I go not if you're
holding the rubber mask

2413
04:46:05,731 --> 04:46:07,179
with your own hand

2414
04:46:11,213 --> 04:46:12,913
"Shocking Dark" is
such a shameless ripoff

2415
04:46:12,937 --> 04:46:14,741
of so many other things
that it was legally not

2416
04:46:14,765 --> 04:46:17,489
able to be released in
the States for many years.

2417
04:46:20,489 --> 04:46:22,362
This is the end of the line.

2418
04:46:22,386 --> 04:46:23,810
You look at movies by guys

2419
04:46:23,834 --> 04:46:25,086
like Bruno Mattei,
and you think it was

2420
04:46:25,110 --> 04:46:27,500
probably a pretty
good party onset.

2421
04:46:27,524 --> 04:46:29,189
End of the line.

2422
04:46:29,213 --> 04:46:30,500
Maybe as long as the
filmmakers are having

2423
04:46:30,524 --> 04:46:31,948
a great time, you
hope it bleeds through

2424
04:46:31,972 --> 04:46:33,489
to the screen.

2425
04:46:39,213 --> 04:46:42,672
Bruno Mattei was by
no means kidding himself

2426
04:46:42,696 --> 04:46:45,189
of where he was in
the film industry.

2427
04:46:45,213 --> 04:46:47,075
And he's in on the joke.

2428
04:46:53,144 --> 04:46:55,120
I worked on two movies with him,

2429
04:46:55,144 --> 04:46:57,327
and he was always
up against a budget,

2430
04:46:57,351 --> 04:46:59,189
and he never took it badly,

2431
04:46:59,213 --> 04:47:01,431
he was never in a bad mood,

2432
04:47:01,455 --> 04:47:02,844
and he was a lot of fun.

2433
04:47:02,868 --> 04:47:03,708
I miss him.

2434
04:47:03,732 --> 04:47:05,006
I miss him a great deal.

2435
04:47:10,903 --> 04:47:14,569
A new film
by Alejandro Jodorowsky.

2436
04:47:14,593 --> 04:47:16,110
"Santa Sangre".

2437
04:47:18,248 --> 04:47:22,155
"Santa Sangre" is a
Felini-esque kind of nightmare

2438
04:47:22,179 --> 04:47:26,086
from the perverted mind
of Alejandro Jodorowsky.

2439
04:47:26,110 --> 04:47:28,879
It's just saturated with blood,

2440
04:47:28,903 --> 04:47:33,500
circus carnage, crazy
cults, skin, surrealism,

2441
04:47:33,524 --> 04:47:35,800
and enough symbolism to
send you to a shrink.

2442
04:47:41,524 --> 04:47:42,810
Now you're a man.

2443
04:47:42,834 --> 04:47:45,741
It is an absolute masterpiece.

2444
04:47:45,765 --> 04:47:49,465
Jodorowsky, he was approached
by Dario Argento's brother,

2445
04:47:49,489 --> 04:47:51,500
Claudio, to make a movie.

2446
04:47:51,524 --> 04:47:53,396
It was essentially,
I need you to make

2447
04:47:53,420 --> 04:47:56,465
a Dario Argento movie, but
by Alejandro Jodorowsky.

2448
04:47:56,489 --> 04:47:59,603
Well, he ended up
taking it way further

2449
04:47:59,627 --> 04:48:00,776
into the direction
of Jodorowsky,

2450
04:48:00,800 --> 04:48:03,041
and making something
entirely unique.

2451
04:48:05,144 --> 04:48:07,465
Sure, it's painted
in a horror movie,

2452
04:48:07,489 --> 04:48:09,155
but it's a coming of age story

2453
04:48:09,179 --> 04:48:13,075
about a boy growing up in
a circus freak setting,

2454
04:48:14,282 --> 04:48:16,500
that really shows the
streets of Mexico City

2455
04:48:16,524 --> 04:48:18,017
in a different light.

2456
04:48:18,041 --> 04:48:19,913
There's something so special
about all these characters,

2457
04:48:19,937 --> 04:48:22,362
being in makeup, being
in their costumes,

2458
04:48:22,386 --> 04:48:24,982
and that's how they are
every day of their lives,

2459
04:48:25,006 --> 04:48:27,293
and actually also
something very sad

2460
04:48:27,317 --> 04:48:28,765
about that, too.

2461
04:48:35,110 --> 04:48:37,017
That that is the identity
of these characters.

2462
04:48:37,041 --> 04:48:39,672
That is the way that
people see them as,

2463
04:48:39,696 --> 04:48:43,455
as clowns, as
performers, as freaks.

2464
04:48:45,382 --> 04:48:47,013
It just shows such a truth,

2465
04:48:47,137 --> 04:48:49,493
not just in Mexico,
but it shows a truth

2466
04:48:49,517 --> 04:48:51,482
of how easy we are judgmental.

2467
04:48:53,862 --> 04:48:55,907
There's so many
scenes in that film

2468
04:48:55,931 --> 04:48:58,148
I did not expect to
continue to escalate,

2469
04:48:58,172 --> 04:48:59,838
to go oh my god!

2470
04:48:59,862 --> 04:49:00,666
Oh my god!

2471
04:49:00,690 --> 04:49:02,241
Ugh!

2472
04:49:03,482 --> 04:49:05,217
The dad, the owner
of this circus,

2473
04:49:05,241 --> 04:49:07,976
just has an affair,
spoiler alert,

2474
04:49:08,000 --> 04:49:10,113
cuts this woman's arms off,

2475
04:49:10,137 --> 04:49:11,769
and it's like what the!

2476
04:49:11,793 --> 04:49:13,758
It's insane!

2477
04:49:15,758 --> 04:49:17,493
The wonderful
character of Conchita,

2478
04:49:17,517 --> 04:49:19,217
and you just see how her arms

2479
04:49:19,241 --> 04:49:20,734
get completely cut off,

2480
04:49:20,758 --> 04:49:22,527
blood pouring out of her arms,

2481
04:49:22,551 --> 04:49:25,413
and how she's just
looking at the sky, at us.

2482
04:49:27,551 --> 04:49:29,044
The one-two punch
of attacking them

2483
04:49:29,068 --> 04:49:31,148
during sex and
throwing acid on them,

2484
04:49:31,172 --> 04:49:33,976
and then getting both
of her arms chopped off,

2485
04:49:34,000 --> 04:49:36,182
with beautiful
Simon Boswell music

2486
04:49:36,206 --> 04:49:37,149
playing in the background.

2487
04:49:37,173 --> 04:49:39,320
That's hard to equal in cinema,

2488
04:49:39,344 --> 04:49:41,034
let alone in this movie.

2489
04:49:45,965 --> 04:49:46,976
And from that point on,

2490
04:49:47,000 --> 04:49:49,527
to see our main character

2491
04:49:49,551 --> 04:49:53,424
trying to find acceptance,
love, and freedom

2492
04:49:53,448 --> 04:49:57,320
of his own demons,
how he now is trapped

2493
04:49:57,344 --> 04:49:59,596
to be his own mother's arms,

2494
04:49:59,620 --> 04:50:01,872
speaks to such a sadness,

2495
04:50:01,896 --> 04:50:04,079
and such a truth
of manipulation.

2496
04:50:04,103 --> 04:50:06,448
It just completely
breaks my heart,

2497
04:50:07,413 --> 04:50:09,275
and grosses me out

2498
04:50:13,862 --> 04:50:15,389
"Santa Sangre" was
not afraid to talk

2499
04:50:15,413 --> 04:50:17,700
about the problems of machismo,

2500
04:50:17,724 --> 04:50:21,734
the class system, and just
the difference in cultures

2501
04:50:21,758 --> 04:50:23,941
with the Americanos
and the Mexicans,

2502
04:50:23,965 --> 04:50:25,148
and all from the point of view

2503
04:50:25,172 --> 04:50:26,424
of an innocent child.

2504
04:50:26,448 --> 04:50:28,631
That corruption,
that manipulation,

2505
04:50:28,655 --> 04:50:31,700
how sex and violence can
really, really change

2506
04:50:31,724 --> 04:50:35,379
a child's life, that
movie is true horror.

2507
04:50:53,793 --> 04:50:55,631
For "Fright Night",
I had no sense

2508
04:50:55,655 --> 04:50:57,217
of what is was going to become.

2509
04:50:57,241 --> 04:50:59,631
I thought it was a fun movie,

2510
04:50:59,655 --> 04:51:00,941
it was creative,
and it was gonna be

2511
04:51:00,965 --> 04:51:03,424
a little bitty horror
movie for that summer.

2512
04:51:03,448 --> 04:51:06,838
Really special experience, and
the longer I'm away from it,

2513
04:51:06,862 --> 04:51:09,379
the more I realize that.

2514
04:51:10,620 --> 04:51:11,838
"Fright Night 2".

2515
04:51:11,862 --> 04:51:13,275
♪ Take me baby

2516
04:51:16,000 --> 04:51:17,803
"Fright Night 2",
Tommy Lee Wallace

2517
04:51:17,827 --> 04:51:19,182
did a terrific job.

2518
04:51:19,206 --> 04:51:20,631
I wasn't available.

2519
04:51:20,655 --> 04:51:23,596
Instead I did "Fatal Beauty"
with Whoopi Goldberg.

2520
04:51:23,620 --> 04:51:25,551
I should have done
"Fright Night 2".

2521
04:51:27,137 --> 04:51:28,803
Johnny.

2522
04:51:28,827 --> 04:51:30,355
Peter.

2523
04:51:30,379 --> 04:51:31,413
It's happening again.

2524
04:51:33,068 --> 04:51:36,113
"Fright Night 2" was
really more about the modern

2525
04:51:36,137 --> 04:51:37,976
80s age, when people
were really starting

2526
04:51:38,000 --> 04:51:42,665
to experiment and to be curious
about cultures and people.

2527
04:51:42,689 --> 04:51:46,379
I give you the new host
of Fright Night, Regine!

2528
04:51:48,793 --> 04:51:50,286
From Regine's point of view,

2529
04:51:50,310 --> 04:51:54,068
my only brother, the love
of my life, was murdered.

2530
04:51:57,137 --> 04:51:59,551
And I am 2000 years old.

2531
04:52:00,413 --> 04:52:01,413
Uh, come in.

2532
04:52:02,137 --> 04:52:03,045
Thanks.

2533
04:52:03,069 --> 04:52:05,769
I find Charlie Brewster,

2534
04:52:05,793 --> 04:52:09,586
and I play with him like a
cat playing with a mouse.

2535
04:52:11,000 --> 04:52:15,286
Julie as Regine was breaking
the glass ceiling in a way.

2536
04:52:15,310 --> 04:52:16,413
This is not a dream.

2537
04:52:18,862 --> 04:52:22,631
"Fright Night Part 2"
is a lot about inverting

2538
04:52:22,655 --> 04:52:25,941
the sexual and
gender stereotypes

2539
04:52:25,965 --> 04:52:29,803
that had traditionally been
part of the vampire genre.

2540
04:52:29,827 --> 04:52:32,493
She was taking ownership
of lust and power

2541
04:52:32,517 --> 04:52:35,872
and hunger and
all of that stuff,

2542
04:52:35,896 --> 04:52:37,758
and she feminized it.

2543
04:52:42,241 --> 04:52:46,769
I think Regine is empowering
for women in general,

2544
04:52:46,793 --> 04:52:48,838
and for Latinas.

2545
04:52:48,862 --> 04:52:53,862
There's an eroticism that is
beyond gender identification.

2546
04:52:55,275 --> 04:52:59,586
Regine Dandridge, it was very
open to love and sensuality.

2547
04:53:04,893 --> 04:53:09,110
She's not just a stark,
startling character.

2548
04:53:09,134 --> 04:53:13,479
She's cushy, and
warm, and you know.

2549
04:53:15,134 --> 04:53:17,410
Is it hot in here?

2550
04:53:21,306 --> 04:53:23,179
You'll have to get
closer than that.

2551
04:53:23,203 --> 04:53:27,386
Peter Vincent was Roddy
McDowall's love letter

2552
04:53:27,410 --> 04:53:30,696
to the vampire
hunters of the past.

2553
04:53:30,720 --> 04:53:32,651
Peter Cushing, Vincent Price.

2554
04:53:34,479 --> 04:53:35,834
Roddy was a photographer,

2555
04:53:35,858 --> 04:53:37,869
so he was always
taking pictures.

2556
04:53:37,893 --> 04:53:40,455
He was into documenting stuff.

2557
04:53:40,479 --> 04:53:44,248
Encyclopedia of movie history.

2558
04:53:44,272 --> 04:53:47,076
He knew where the
bodies were buried.

2559
04:53:47,100 --> 04:53:51,179
I kill vampires.

2560
04:53:51,203 --> 04:53:52,593
It was a different movie,

2561
04:53:52,617 --> 04:53:54,903
it was like an army
of ghouls and vampires

2562
04:53:54,927 --> 04:53:58,031
and creatures that we
were up against this time.

2563
04:53:59,789 --> 04:54:02,076
Russel Clark played Belle,

2564
04:54:02,100 --> 04:54:04,444
a wraith-like vampire
on roller skates.

2565
04:54:06,341 --> 04:54:09,144
Those three characters,
Jonathan Gries,

2566
04:54:09,168 --> 04:54:11,386
Brian Thompson, and Russel,

2567
04:54:11,410 --> 04:54:14,662
they're all so
distinctive and unique

2568
04:54:14,686 --> 04:54:17,513
in the characters that
they came up with.

2569
04:54:19,686 --> 04:54:22,548
I have an entourage
of fabulous men.

2570
04:54:25,617 --> 04:54:28,869
Russel Clarke, he had
choreographed Michael Jackson,

2571
04:54:28,893 --> 04:54:32,248
and Brian Thompson
came up with the naming

2572
04:54:32,272 --> 04:54:36,341
all of these bugs with
their Latin names.

2573
04:54:43,100 --> 04:54:46,548
There's just a scholarliness
to this foursome.

2574
04:54:48,272 --> 04:54:50,100
Are you thirsty, Charlie?

2575
04:54:51,548 --> 04:54:54,627
Once I started
transitioning into a vampire,

2576
04:54:54,651 --> 04:54:56,558
I enjoyed getting to fang up

2577
04:54:56,582 --> 04:54:59,213
and get pasty, and
all that stuff.

2578
04:54:59,237 --> 04:55:01,213
I had my Christmas
cards that year

2579
04:55:01,237 --> 04:55:06,237
were me in a vampire, sort
of holiday vampire theme.

2580
04:55:07,893 --> 04:55:10,007
"Fright Night 2"
resonates with people,

2581
04:55:10,031 --> 04:55:11,386
there's something
for everyone in it.

2582
04:55:11,410 --> 04:55:13,972
And everyone's kind of
represented, especially today.

2583
04:55:13,996 --> 04:55:16,375
You notice if someone's
not represented now.

2584
04:55:17,513 --> 04:55:19,800
It shocked people that somebody

2585
04:55:19,824 --> 04:55:22,282
would break the rules
as much as we did,

2586
04:55:22,306 --> 04:55:25,386
even though it made more
money at the box office

2587
04:55:25,410 --> 04:55:28,282
than anything else that
opened that weekend,

2588
04:55:28,306 --> 04:55:31,248
I think the whole distribution
went into a tailspin,

2589
04:55:31,272 --> 04:55:34,179
and then you could
hardly find it on VHS,

2590
04:55:34,203 --> 04:55:36,110
but people have unearthed it,

2591
04:55:36,134 --> 04:55:37,869
literally dug it
up from the grave,

2592
04:55:37,893 --> 04:55:39,731
so I'm very grateful
to the people

2593
04:55:39,755 --> 04:55:42,582
who've done that, because
Regine was really fun.

2594
04:55:43,513 --> 04:55:45,548
Welcome to Fright Night.

2595
04:55:51,341 --> 04:55:52,972
I have such a specific memory

2596
04:55:52,996 --> 04:55:57,007
of begging my dad to take
me to see "Relentless"

2597
04:55:57,031 --> 04:55:58,455
when I was too young to see it.

2598
04:55:58,479 --> 04:55:59,731
I was probably 12.

2599
04:55:59,755 --> 04:56:02,351
Judd Nelson is Buck Taylor.

2600
04:56:02,375 --> 04:56:05,237
And Buck Taylor is "Relentless".

2601
04:56:07,027 --> 04:56:09,934
This was a Hollywood
maniac slasher,

2602
04:56:10,058 --> 04:56:12,300
so it was a well-produced film.

2603
04:56:18,196 --> 04:56:21,310
Cops chasing a serial
killer in Los Angeles.

2604
04:56:21,334 --> 04:56:23,034
Well, who the fuck killed him?

2605
04:56:23,058 --> 04:56:23,862
Well how the fuck do I know?

2606
04:56:23,886 --> 04:56:24,863
It's my first day.

2607
04:56:24,887 --> 04:56:26,896
Judd Nelson is the product

2608
04:56:26,920 --> 04:56:29,931
of an abusive relationship
with his father,

2609
04:56:29,955 --> 04:56:34,896
who was a police officer, who
he both feared and idolized,

2610
04:56:34,920 --> 04:56:37,586
when he couldn't live
up to his father's ideal

2611
04:56:37,610 --> 04:56:39,689
to also become a police officer,

2612
04:56:39,713 --> 04:56:43,379
he decides he's going to
go out and kill people

2613
04:56:43,403 --> 04:56:45,127
with his father's name.

2614
04:56:47,644 --> 04:56:50,207
Leo Rossi and Robert Loggia,

2615
04:56:50,231 --> 04:56:52,000
they are investigating it.

2616
04:56:52,024 --> 04:56:53,276
Read this.

2617
04:56:53,300 --> 04:56:54,862
No clues, no nothing.

2618
04:56:54,886 --> 04:56:56,276
What is it?

2619
04:56:56,300 --> 04:56:57,689
The asshole left it.

2620
04:56:57,713 --> 04:56:59,793
John had seen "Maniac",
and really liked it,

2621
04:56:59,817 --> 04:57:02,610
and came aboard wanting
to play the role.

2622
04:57:04,955 --> 04:57:06,620
For me stylistically,

2623
04:57:06,644 --> 04:57:10,644
it was my Dario Argento
film in daylight.

2624
04:57:13,127 --> 04:57:15,138
What really messed me
up too with that film

2625
04:57:15,162 --> 04:57:16,448
is there's a pretty brutal

2626
04:57:16,472 --> 04:57:19,851
piano wire
strangulation sequence.

2627
04:57:23,334 --> 04:57:25,758
It was intense for
me to watch as a kid.

2628
04:57:25,782 --> 04:57:26,782
Isn't that better?

2629
04:57:28,506 --> 04:57:30,448
I like the scene
where Judd is running

2630
04:57:30,472 --> 04:57:31,482
on the rooftop.

2631
04:57:31,506 --> 04:57:32,620
We did a little trick there.

2632
04:57:32,644 --> 04:57:34,172
We used a Louma crane,

2633
04:57:34,196 --> 04:57:35,724
and when he's
hidden, the stunt guy

2634
04:57:35,748 --> 04:57:37,172
comes out the other end,

2635
04:57:37,196 --> 04:57:40,300
and we tried to make it
as seamless as possible.

2636
04:57:41,541 --> 04:57:44,724
There was a moment that
was cut from the script

2637
04:57:44,748 --> 04:57:47,138
that I really wish I had shot.

2638
04:57:47,162 --> 04:57:50,551
The scene that I had stolen
from a Japanese movie

2639
04:57:50,575 --> 04:57:52,620
called "Vengeance is Mine".

2640
04:57:52,644 --> 04:57:55,517
Coming down the street
was a patrol car,

2641
04:57:55,541 --> 04:57:57,344
and Judd looks
down at his hands,

2642
04:57:57,368 --> 04:57:58,827
and there's blood on his hands,

2643
04:57:58,851 --> 04:58:01,689
so he goes in the bushes,
and pees on his hands

2644
04:58:01,713 --> 04:58:03,334
to wash the blood off of them.

2645
04:58:05,162 --> 04:58:06,344
And I thought, wow.

2646
04:58:06,368 --> 04:58:08,517
That would really say a
lot about a character.

2647
04:58:08,541 --> 04:58:09,758
It might have been
a bit too much

2648
04:58:09,782 --> 04:58:11,541
for mainstream audience.

2649
04:58:15,300 --> 04:58:17,172
It's all right.

2650
04:58:17,196 --> 04:58:19,103
I had a great time
with Judd Nelson.

2651
04:58:19,127 --> 04:58:20,655
Always joking around.

2652
04:58:20,679 --> 04:58:22,931
All the actors, all sweethearts.

2653
04:58:22,955 --> 04:58:25,379
It was a wonderful
experience on that film.

2654
04:58:25,403 --> 04:58:26,862
Yo brothers, what's up?

2655
04:58:26,886 --> 04:58:28,276
I had no interference.

2656
04:58:28,300 --> 04:58:30,620
Everything that's in
"Relentless" is mine,

2657
04:58:30,644 --> 04:58:32,276
for better or worse,
it was the way

2658
04:58:32,300 --> 04:58:34,448
I made the film, and
I'm quite proud of it.

2659
04:58:34,472 --> 04:58:35,896
I think it came out okay.

2660
04:58:35,920 --> 04:58:36,920
Please.

2661
04:58:38,127 --> 04:58:39,127
Don't hurt my son.

2662
04:58:41,024 --> 04:58:42,448
But it feels dated to me.

2663
04:58:42,472 --> 04:58:45,620
First is "Maniac Cop",
which was made before that

2664
04:58:45,644 --> 04:58:47,310
doesn't feel dated to me.

2665
04:58:47,334 --> 04:58:48,713
Go figure.

2666
04:58:49,713 --> 04:58:50,713
Oh my god!

2667
04:59:00,955 --> 04:59:02,644
William Hickey as

2668
04:59:04,265 --> 04:59:06,034
"The Puppet Master".

2669
04:59:06,058 --> 04:59:10,138
One of my favorite franchises
is "The Puppet Master".

2670
04:59:10,162 --> 04:59:12,724
And the first one was
just so perfect to me.

2671
04:59:12,748 --> 04:59:14,758
And now they have 80 of them.

2672
04:59:14,782 --> 04:59:16,127
Every single one, I want.

2673
04:59:17,886 --> 04:59:20,931
It had Blade, Tunneler, Jester,

2674
04:59:20,955 --> 04:59:24,413
with his weird face
stuff, and Leech Girl,

2675
04:59:24,437 --> 04:59:27,955
and lots, and lots, and
lots of creepy ass puppets.

2676
04:59:29,334 --> 04:59:31,586
I have all those
puppets as action figures.

2677
04:59:31,610 --> 04:59:33,862
They're some of my favorite
collectibles to this day.

2678
04:59:33,886 --> 04:59:37,058
I just wanted to see the
puppets fucking kill people.

2679
04:59:41,989 --> 04:59:45,482
You pair that with just
this weird fucking story

2680
04:59:45,506 --> 04:59:49,103
about an undead dude who
just wanted to get his,

2681
04:59:49,127 --> 04:59:53,034
gets his rivals together to
kill them off one by one.

2682
04:59:53,058 --> 04:59:55,724
And using the old techniques
of the old Puppet Master,

2683
04:59:55,748 --> 04:59:58,172
I brought myself back to life.

2684
04:59:58,196 --> 04:59:59,104
Why?

2685
04:59:59,128 --> 05:00:01,103
I want to live forever.

2686
05:00:01,127 --> 05:00:03,817
That is a piece of art
that came to life as a movie.

2687
05:00:07,437 --> 05:00:09,172
Yeah, I'm a stop motion freak.

2688
05:00:09,196 --> 05:00:11,517
Dave Allen helped shape
shift those characters

2689
05:00:11,541 --> 05:00:14,000
into what they are
now, and gave them some

2690
05:00:14,024 --> 05:00:17,093
historical context, because
it takes place in the 40s.

2691
05:00:18,437 --> 05:00:21,310
And next thing you know,
we morph into a script,

2692
05:00:21,334 --> 05:00:24,024
and David Schmoeller did a
great job with the script.

2693
05:00:29,541 --> 05:00:32,276
Charlie Band, he would give
me a lot of creative freedom.

2694
05:00:32,300 --> 05:00:34,965
It's real easy to
write these things.

2695
05:00:34,989 --> 05:00:37,138
You hope that this
is gonna work.

2696
05:00:37,162 --> 05:00:38,655
It goes from effect to effect.

2697
05:00:38,679 --> 05:00:40,069
I mean, some of them work great,

2698
05:00:40,093 --> 05:00:42,920
and some of them are
really stretches, you know.

2699
05:00:47,644 --> 05:00:49,103
You fucker!

2700
05:00:49,127 --> 05:00:50,896
I thought I could create magic,

2701
05:00:50,920 --> 05:00:53,886
and these really great
things would happen.

2702
05:00:56,093 --> 05:00:57,620
These little dolls,
they would find

2703
05:00:57,644 --> 05:01:02,207
all these sadistic ways
to murder human beings.

2704
05:01:02,231 --> 05:01:06,000
It was diabolical.

2705
05:01:06,024 --> 05:01:08,827
Leech Woman, Lord
she looks so cute

2706
05:01:08,851 --> 05:01:10,931
and pretty but then

2707
05:01:10,955 --> 05:01:13,103
and this nasty ass leech,

2708
05:01:13,127 --> 05:01:15,093
and it's just, no, why?

2709
05:01:18,920 --> 05:01:20,851
We actually used leeches.

2710
05:01:23,334 --> 05:01:26,034
The puppet with the
tiniest little head,

2711
05:01:26,058 --> 05:01:30,300
and massive baby hands, just
beating the crap out of people.

2712
05:01:33,403 --> 05:01:36,172
You're taking inanimate objects

2713
05:01:36,196 --> 05:01:38,886
and turning them
into real things.

2714
05:01:46,058 --> 05:01:47,448
We would talk about
it, and he would go off

2715
05:01:47,472 --> 05:01:50,931
and execute whatever
I needed to have

2716
05:01:50,955 --> 05:01:52,758
these puppets doing.

2717
05:01:52,782 --> 05:01:54,413
There would always
be some surprise

2718
05:01:54,437 --> 05:01:57,413
that was better than
what we had talked about.

2719
05:01:57,437 --> 05:02:00,758
Low budget filmmaking
is an art in itself.

2720
05:02:00,782 --> 05:02:02,448
It's such a crapshoot.

2721
05:02:02,472 --> 05:02:04,034
What's happening, Alice?

2722
05:02:04,058 --> 05:02:06,689
You're making
movies for no money,

2723
05:02:06,713 --> 05:02:10,610
and then you're expecting
a studio to pick it up.

2724
05:02:14,196 --> 05:02:16,379
The fact that
Paramount released it

2725
05:02:16,403 --> 05:02:18,379
gave it a lot of cache.

2726
05:02:18,403 --> 05:02:21,310
Gave it a lot of credibility.

2727
05:02:21,334 --> 05:02:24,058
What the hell
are you looking at?

2728
05:02:27,368 --> 05:02:30,103
The original idea
of these characters

2729
05:02:30,127 --> 05:02:31,931
that all start off a
little differently,

2730
05:02:31,955 --> 05:02:34,920
helped my business, my
life, and my creativity.

2731
05:02:37,748 --> 05:02:39,448
We're about to shoot
our 13th Puppet Master

2732
05:02:39,472 --> 05:02:41,127
32 years later.

2733
05:02:47,196 --> 05:02:48,931
"The Black Cat".

2734
05:02:48,955 --> 05:02:51,265
The last word in terror.

2735
05:02:53,644 --> 05:02:56,172
"The Black Cat", Luigi Cozzi,

2736
05:02:56,196 --> 05:02:59,851
or Lewis Coates, as
he's known in America.

2737
05:03:01,058 --> 05:03:02,058
Black Cat, 1A, take one.

2738
05:03:02,989 --> 05:03:04,379
My lovely Luigi, who directed

2739
05:03:04,403 --> 05:03:08,000
and kind of created
"Stellar Star Star Crash".

2740
05:03:08,024 --> 05:03:09,241
It was his baby.

2741
05:03:09,265 --> 05:03:11,620
He wanted to do this
one for quite some time.

2742
05:03:11,644 --> 05:03:14,448
Well, we've already got
the storyline blocked out,

2743
05:03:14,472 --> 05:03:16,000
but before we get down to
writing the screenplay,

2744
05:03:16,024 --> 05:03:18,896
we'd like some pointers
about reincarnation.

2745
05:03:18,920 --> 05:03:21,000
I read the script, and I
thought yeah, it's interesting.

2746
05:03:21,124 --> 05:03:21,928
It's different.

2747
05:03:21,952 --> 05:03:23,444
Don't use that name.

2748
05:03:23,568 --> 05:03:24,820
Change it at once.

2749
05:03:24,944 --> 05:03:25,989
What name, Levana?

2750
05:03:26,013 --> 05:03:27,231
Yes.

2751
05:03:27,255 --> 05:03:28,806
Don't take the risk
of summoning her.

2752
05:03:29,979 --> 05:03:32,472
Dario Argento had a hand in it.

2753
05:03:32,496 --> 05:03:35,920
Dario Argento
directed it, "Suspiria",

2754
05:03:35,944 --> 05:03:38,438
and I must admit, it
was very, very good.

2755
05:03:38,462 --> 05:03:40,644
Luigi worked very
closely with Dario.

2756
05:03:40,668 --> 05:03:42,196
It was shot in Italy.

2757
05:03:42,220 --> 05:03:45,024
Not a lot of plot, but
beautiful to look at.

2758
05:03:45,048 --> 05:03:47,541
Great performances
from the actors.

2759
05:03:47,565 --> 05:03:48,782
They were all European.

2760
05:03:48,806 --> 05:03:51,265
I think I was the only
English person in it.

2761
05:03:51,289 --> 05:03:54,748
We had a wonderful prince
called Urbano Barberini

2762
05:03:54,772 --> 05:03:56,920
who was in it, and then
you had Florence Guerin,

2763
05:03:56,944 --> 05:03:58,782
who was wonderful in the film.

2764
05:03:58,806 --> 05:04:00,358
She was fantastic.

2765
05:04:04,255 --> 05:04:06,782
You can never leave!

2766
05:04:06,806 --> 05:04:08,886
You'll never be
Levana the witch!

2767
05:04:08,910 --> 05:04:10,093
Never, never!

2768
05:04:10,117 --> 05:04:13,600
She was an actress,
I was an actress.

2769
05:04:16,600 --> 05:04:17,542
Cut.

2770
05:04:17,566 --> 05:04:18,989
Florence was the nice one.

2771
05:04:19,013 --> 05:04:21,644
I was just a bitch, I would
say, really, basically.

2772
05:04:21,668 --> 05:04:22,886
Sorry.

2773
05:04:22,910 --> 05:04:24,324
So I have your
permission to, uh,

2774
05:04:26,048 --> 05:04:27,220
put it to him?

2775
05:04:29,737 --> 05:04:30,542
But it was good
character for me.

2776
05:04:30,566 --> 05:04:31,713
I liked it.

2777
05:04:31,737 --> 05:04:34,265
Quite dark, and she was
all out for herself.

2778
05:04:34,289 --> 05:04:37,024
Everything was
about her, really.

2779
05:04:37,048 --> 05:04:40,093
She was very jealous of
Florence and the husband.

2780
05:04:40,117 --> 05:04:41,875
Why in god's name did you do it?

2781
05:04:43,462 --> 05:04:46,127
The same reason I took
Mark away from you, Anne.

2782
05:04:46,151 --> 05:04:47,576
For Levana.

2783
05:04:47,600 --> 05:04:49,438
My character was capable
of anything, really.

2784
05:04:49,462 --> 05:04:51,231
I liked that concept.

2785
05:04:51,255 --> 05:04:52,438
What is your command?

2786
05:04:52,462 --> 05:04:54,289
I ordered you to stop Anne.

2787
05:04:55,255 --> 05:04:57,127
It rolled along nicely.

2788
05:04:57,151 --> 05:04:58,851
Maybe not the best dialogue.

2789
05:04:58,875 --> 05:05:01,600
And you know
what you must do with it.

2790
05:05:02,772 --> 05:05:04,679
The baby's in the other room.

2791
05:05:04,703 --> 05:05:06,093
Some of the scenes
were quite heavy

2792
05:05:06,117 --> 05:05:07,300
with the special effects.

2793
05:05:07,324 --> 05:05:08,841
Very bloody.

2794
05:05:10,944 --> 05:05:12,427
It is a bit weird, isn't it?

2795
05:05:14,565 --> 05:05:16,024
They're quite gruesome effects.

2796
05:05:16,048 --> 05:05:18,600
Looking back on it, they
were really, really good.

2797
05:05:30,772 --> 05:05:32,610
The Spanish title
for "Grave Robbers"

2798
05:05:32,634 --> 05:05:34,462
is "Ladrones De Tumbas".

2799
05:05:36,186 --> 05:05:38,265
There's a lot of
satanic rituals,

2800
05:05:38,489 --> 05:05:40,358
and a lot of killings.

2801
05:05:42,800 --> 05:05:46,569
A guy is persecuted
by the Inquisition,

2802
05:05:46,593 --> 05:05:49,707
and he's tortured, and murdered,

2803
05:05:49,731 --> 05:05:52,800
and he promises to
return for vengeance.

2804
05:06:00,800 --> 05:06:04,155
Our main characters, they
go to the cemeteries,

2805
05:06:04,179 --> 05:06:06,844
dig up the graves,
extract the bodies,

2806
05:06:06,868 --> 05:06:09,741
look for gold and
valuable things,

2807
05:06:09,765 --> 05:06:12,627
and they sell them
in the black market.

2808
05:06:14,524 --> 05:06:17,327
They go through a
tunnel into the dungeons

2809
05:06:17,351 --> 05:06:18,903
of this old hacienda.

2810
05:06:21,110 --> 05:06:23,041
And strange things
start happening.

2811
05:06:31,179 --> 05:06:33,120
By the time we shot
"Grave Robbers",

2812
05:06:33,144 --> 05:06:36,362
I was a big expert
in prosthetics

2813
05:06:36,386 --> 05:06:38,776
and special effects,
cinematography.

2814
05:06:38,800 --> 05:06:40,455
I had learned a lot.

2815
05:06:43,627 --> 05:06:44,741
We didn't shoot it in English.

2816
05:06:44,765 --> 05:06:46,638
We shot it in Spanish.

2817
05:06:46,662 --> 05:06:48,707
We shot that film
in Valle de Bravo.

2818
05:06:48,731 --> 05:06:51,534
It's about an hour and
a half from Mexico City.

2819
05:06:51,558 --> 05:06:52,569
It's in the mountains.

2820
05:06:52,593 --> 05:06:54,765
There's woods all over.

2821
05:06:58,972 --> 05:07:01,489
One girl is kidnapped.

2822
05:07:02,903 --> 05:07:06,534
And the policemen go
inside the dungeons,

2823
05:07:06,558 --> 05:07:09,982
and he finds his daughter
tied up to the floor.

2824
05:07:10,006 --> 05:07:11,224
The demon walks in

2825
05:07:11,248 --> 05:07:13,868
and they engage in a fight.

2826
05:07:18,006 --> 05:07:20,569
When our hero comes in
and saves the policeman

2827
05:07:20,593 --> 05:07:22,431
and saves the girl.

2828
05:07:22,455 --> 05:07:24,386
That's a memorable scene.

2829
05:07:28,144 --> 05:07:32,362
It had known actors for
the domestic market.

2830
05:07:32,386 --> 05:07:34,741
It was aimed for
the right target,

2831
05:07:34,765 --> 05:07:37,327
and it was a very big
success in Mexico,

2832
05:07:37,351 --> 05:07:40,362
and then a big success
when the video clubs

2833
05:07:40,386 --> 05:07:41,696
started renting it out.

2834
05:07:43,524 --> 05:07:44,707
No!

2835
05:07:44,731 --> 05:07:48,431
I wasn't aware
how this film became

2836
05:07:48,455 --> 05:07:51,293
part of the cult
1980s horror films,

2837
05:07:51,317 --> 05:07:53,776
because my career has gone on.

2838
05:07:53,800 --> 05:07:56,362
I'm mostly known
in Mexico for being

2839
05:07:56,386 --> 05:07:59,041
a reality show producer.

2840
05:08:00,248 --> 05:08:02,362
I'm proud of them
because they were done

2841
05:08:02,386 --> 05:08:04,258
with no money, with no time,

2842
05:08:04,282 --> 05:08:06,489
with no technical resources.

2843
05:08:07,420 --> 05:08:09,362
I was in the process of learning

2844
05:08:09,386 --> 05:08:11,534
how to become a filmmaker.

2845
05:08:11,558 --> 05:08:14,593
We were just kids having fun.

2846
05:08:25,937 --> 05:08:28,948
I have no idea why
people romanticize films

2847
05:08:28,972 --> 05:08:31,638
simply because they
were made in the 80s.

2848
05:08:31,662 --> 05:08:32,879
Hi.

2849
05:08:32,903 --> 05:08:35,362
But because they
were made in the 80s,

2850
05:08:35,386 --> 05:08:37,972
they develop a cult reputation.

2851
05:08:40,937 --> 05:08:43,569
I'm really thrilled
that audiences now

2852
05:08:43,593 --> 05:08:45,258
really appreciate this stuff,

2853
05:08:45,282 --> 05:08:47,569
that back in the 80s,
people were just like,

2854
05:08:47,593 --> 05:08:49,431
nah, you know, whatever.

2855
05:08:49,455 --> 05:08:51,672
Now there's a whole
new renaissance,

2856
05:08:51,696 --> 05:08:54,396
if you will, and people are
really getting into them,

2857
05:08:54,420 --> 05:08:56,189
and really loving
them, and giving them

2858
05:08:56,213 --> 05:08:58,327
the kudos that they deserve.

2859
05:08:58,351 --> 05:09:00,327
They have a life today
that's not the same

2860
05:09:00,351 --> 05:09:01,741
as their life in the 80s,

2861
05:09:01,765 --> 05:09:04,189
but let's get real
about, you know

2862
05:09:04,213 --> 05:09:06,800
Orson Welles didn't
make any of these films.

2863
05:09:08,179 --> 05:09:09,982
We need to reframe
the way that we look

2864
05:09:10,006 --> 05:09:12,282
at good and bad movies.

2865
05:09:13,937 --> 05:09:15,707
Bad movies can be enjoyable.

2866
05:09:15,731 --> 05:09:17,500
You can find a different
way to look at it.

2867
05:09:17,524 --> 05:09:19,834
I mean, no one's setting
out to make a bad movie.

2868
05:09:23,075 --> 05:09:25,258
It doesn't really
matter how great

2869
05:09:25,282 --> 05:09:27,396
or not great these movies were,

2870
05:09:27,420 --> 05:09:28,810
it's important to remember

2871
05:09:28,834 --> 05:09:32,638
how the cast, the
crew, the producers,

2872
05:09:32,662 --> 05:09:35,396
the director, put all
their love and energy

2873
05:09:35,420 --> 05:09:38,327
and money into
these various films,

2874
05:09:38,351 --> 05:09:40,741
and really made them
into something unique

2875
05:09:40,765 --> 05:09:42,662
that there was an audience for.

2876
05:09:44,041 --> 05:09:45,707
I think it's
important for us to keep

2877
05:09:45,731 --> 05:09:47,776
these films in conversation.

2878
05:09:47,800 --> 05:09:49,293
Especially the ones
that people think

2879
05:09:49,317 --> 05:09:52,327
maybe are not so great, because
there's the obvious ones,

2880
05:09:52,351 --> 05:09:54,258
like "The Shining", "The Thing".

2881
05:09:54,282 --> 05:09:57,534
Those extend beyond
horror audiences.

2882
05:09:57,558 --> 05:09:58,707
But then there's kind of like,

2883
05:09:58,731 --> 05:10:00,810
we have these in danger
of being forgotten

2884
05:10:00,834 --> 05:10:03,293
or going extinct gems.

2885
05:10:03,317 --> 05:10:05,672
As we move from
this media format

2886
05:10:05,696 --> 05:10:07,155
to this media format,

2887
05:10:07,179 --> 05:10:08,776
there's things that kind of
get pushed to the wayside,

2888
05:10:08,800 --> 05:10:10,293
and we're leaving them behind.

2889
05:10:10,317 --> 05:10:12,017
Hide the body, and come back,

2890
05:10:12,041 --> 05:10:13,638
and clean up the blood.

2891
05:10:13,662 --> 05:10:16,293
People should champion
anything that they enjoy,

2892
05:10:16,317 --> 05:10:18,903
because that's how
you keep things alive.

2893
05:10:21,834 --> 05:10:23,017
Streaming is great.

2894
05:10:23,041 --> 05:10:25,603
I love that it makes
things easily accessible

2895
05:10:25,627 --> 05:10:28,569
to the masses, but
also it doesn't compare

2896
05:10:28,593 --> 05:10:31,500
to browsing and
picking something up

2897
05:10:31,524 --> 05:10:33,844
and feeling it, smelling it,

2898
05:10:33,868 --> 05:10:35,189
holding it in your hands

2899
05:10:35,213 --> 05:10:37,386
is a special kind of experience.

2900
05:10:40,593 --> 05:10:43,982
Home video and cable
meant that movies

2901
05:10:44,006 --> 05:10:47,500
didn't go away, and
that meant that movies

2902
05:10:47,524 --> 05:10:49,913
found their audience.

2903
05:10:49,937 --> 05:10:51,569
And then word of mouth kicks in.

2904
05:10:51,593 --> 05:10:55,638
And to no small extent,
creates horror fandom,

2905
05:10:55,662 --> 05:10:58,258
which has become this tidal wave

2906
05:10:58,282 --> 05:11:03,017
over the 30, 40 years since
that technology arrived.

2907
05:11:03,041 --> 05:11:05,844
Of course it's not ideal
to see a movie on tape

2908
05:11:05,868 --> 05:11:07,672
as opposed to seeing
it on the big screen,

2909
05:11:07,696 --> 05:11:09,258
but as we see that
the way that the world

2910
05:11:09,282 --> 05:11:12,569
has currently gone, many
more people see movies

2911
05:11:12,593 --> 05:11:14,155
on their devices
than they ever see

2912
05:11:14,179 --> 05:11:15,948
on a theater screen,
and the trade off

2913
05:11:15,972 --> 05:11:18,051
is it isn't gonna be seen

2914
05:11:18,075 --> 05:11:19,500
by very many people
in the theater.

2915
05:11:19,524 --> 05:11:21,213
It's mostly gonna
be seen at home.

2916
05:11:22,351 --> 05:11:25,362
Today, there's a kind
of casualness to it.

2917
05:11:25,386 --> 05:11:27,534
I'm still a child of the cinema.

2918
05:11:27,558 --> 05:11:30,569
I'm not crazy about
people being introduced

2919
05:11:30,593 --> 05:11:31,937
to horror through digital.

2920
05:11:33,144 --> 05:11:34,810
The upside is that
the screens are better,

2921
05:11:34,834 --> 05:11:36,707
they're bigger, the
sound is better.

2922
05:11:36,731 --> 05:11:38,224
People are very
serious about the way

2923
05:11:38,248 --> 05:11:39,534
they present their films,

2924
05:11:39,558 --> 05:11:42,017
and so it's a
theater-like experience,

2925
05:11:42,141 --> 05:11:43,634
but it's not a
theater experience,

2926
05:11:43,758 --> 05:11:45,527
because a theater
experience is with a large

2927
05:11:45,651 --> 05:11:48,248
audience of people,
who make the difference

2928
05:11:48,272 --> 05:11:50,962
between what you're watching,
and what you're experiencing.

2929
05:11:52,337 --> 05:11:54,693
An experienced horror
film with a big audience

2930
05:11:54,717 --> 05:11:57,279
that's enjoying it is a
completely different

2931
05:11:57,303 --> 05:12:00,727
and more fun experience
than watching it

2932
05:12:00,751 --> 05:12:02,072
at home with two friends.

2933
05:12:02,096 --> 05:12:03,417
That's just night and day.

2934
05:12:03,441 --> 05:12:05,520
Part of the problem
is our technology

2935
05:12:05,544 --> 05:12:06,969
is so magnificent now.

2936
05:12:06,993 --> 05:12:10,210
People think anything
old is clunky.

2937
05:12:10,334 --> 05:12:12,069
This desire just to see the new,

2938
05:12:12,093 --> 05:12:14,551
the new, the new, the
next, the next, the next,

2939
05:12:14,575 --> 05:12:17,344
sometimes prevents us
from taking some time

2940
05:12:17,368 --> 05:12:19,310
out of our very busy lives

2941
05:12:19,334 --> 05:12:21,862
and realizing that
there's some great stuff

2942
05:12:21,886 --> 05:12:23,575
from the past.

2943
05:12:26,437 --> 05:12:29,896
Maybe the movie itself
isn't necessarily great,

2944
05:12:29,920 --> 05:12:31,965
but it's the experience
of watching it

2945
05:12:31,989 --> 05:12:33,896
that makes it great,
and then 20 years later,

2946
05:12:33,920 --> 05:12:36,482
you're telling people, no you
have to watch "Motel Hell".

2947
05:12:36,506 --> 05:12:38,782
This is one of the
greatest movies ever made.

2948
05:12:41,748 --> 05:12:43,241
They hold it near
and dear to their heart

2949
05:12:43,265 --> 05:12:46,207
because they've seen it with
their father who's passed,

2950
05:12:46,231 --> 05:12:48,586
or cousin made them
watch it to scare them,

2951
05:12:48,610 --> 05:12:50,276
or whatever,
however they saw it.

2952
05:12:50,300 --> 05:12:52,300
It holds good
memories for people.

2953
05:12:53,955 --> 05:12:55,379
Horror is personal.

2954
05:12:55,403 --> 05:12:58,344
We can all agree on
a good horror film.

2955
05:12:58,368 --> 05:12:59,724
It's like, ah "Psycho".

2956
05:12:59,748 --> 05:13:02,448
But nobody's defending
"Psycho" to the death.

2957
05:13:02,472 --> 05:13:05,517
I think we have it all wrong
when we talk about horror.

2958
05:13:05,541 --> 05:13:08,207
We're like, this is
good, or this is bad.

2959
05:13:08,231 --> 05:13:09,724
No.

2960
05:13:09,748 --> 05:13:12,103
Something is entertaining
or it's not entertaining,

2961
05:13:12,127 --> 05:13:15,379
and by putting everything
on a good and bad dichotomy,

2962
05:13:15,403 --> 05:13:17,482
we ruin our experience
of being able

2963
05:13:17,506 --> 05:13:21,344
to talk about a movie,
like "Sleepaway Camp II",

2964
05:13:21,368 --> 05:13:23,344
that's just like a
fucking good time.

2965
05:13:23,368 --> 05:13:25,655
"Sleepaway Camp II" doesn't
have to be high art,

2966
05:13:25,679 --> 05:13:27,517
to be a social satire.

2967
05:13:27,541 --> 05:13:30,379
Howdy partner!

2968
05:13:30,403 --> 05:13:31,586
I actually think
that you can find

2969
05:13:31,610 --> 05:13:33,207
more in our culture and history

2970
05:13:33,231 --> 05:13:35,207
and even just social context

2971
05:13:35,231 --> 05:13:37,517
in films that are labeled trash.

2972
05:13:37,541 --> 05:13:39,379
There's more there to
actually pick from,

2973
05:13:39,403 --> 05:13:42,344
and shine a light on
who we were as people.

2974
05:13:42,368 --> 05:13:43,862
Like, a popcorn film?

2975
05:13:43,886 --> 05:13:48,024
That's loaded with identity,
and society, and culture.

2976
05:13:49,472 --> 05:13:51,655
I'm way more interested in
the history I'm gonna get

2977
05:13:51,679 --> 05:13:53,689
from a movie that
people cast aside

2978
05:13:53,713 --> 05:13:54,965
than the history I'm gonna get

2979
05:13:54,989 --> 05:13:57,265
and what I learn in
a film school class.

2980
05:13:59,920 --> 05:14:04,586
Let's not get insanely
academic about these films.

2981
05:14:04,610 --> 05:14:06,655
The people who watch
these movies in the 80s

2982
05:14:06,679 --> 05:14:09,034
weren't watching them from
an ironic point of view.

2983
05:14:09,058 --> 05:14:11,482
They were watching them because
they enjoyed the mayhem.

2984
05:14:11,506 --> 05:14:13,965
The people who watch
those same movies today

2985
05:14:13,989 --> 05:14:16,482
are watching them from
an academic standpoint,

2986
05:14:16,506 --> 05:14:19,689
as though they're analyzing
every little detail

2987
05:14:19,713 --> 05:14:20,758
of the film.

2988
05:14:20,782 --> 05:14:22,276
These films were made by guys

2989
05:14:22,300 --> 05:14:24,517
who wanted to make a fast buck.

2990
05:14:24,541 --> 05:14:26,276
These films were made for money.

2991
05:14:26,300 --> 05:14:29,482
They were not concerned with
trying to impress anybody.

2992
05:14:29,506 --> 05:14:33,310
They were concerned with the
largest audience possible.

2993
05:14:33,334 --> 05:14:35,817
They were filmmakers, but
they were also businessmen.

2994
05:14:38,196 --> 05:14:41,196
These aren't big
extravagant productions.

2995
05:14:44,506 --> 05:14:46,310
You crazy bastard.

2996
05:14:46,334 --> 05:14:48,379
Horror lets you be creative.

2997
05:14:48,403 --> 05:14:50,103
You can go outside the box.

2998
05:14:50,127 --> 05:14:51,896
You can go outside the scope.

2999
05:14:51,920 --> 05:14:54,379
Horror, it can look
cheesy and bad,

3000
05:14:54,403 --> 05:14:55,782
and it's fun.

3001
05:14:58,955 --> 05:15:01,655
We love to be scared,

3002
05:15:01,679 --> 05:15:05,575
and we love to think
we're in peril.

3003
05:15:07,093 --> 05:15:12,093
And we love to be at
odds with each other.

3004
05:15:13,265 --> 05:15:17,103
Movies are so powerful,
because it reminds us

3005
05:15:17,127 --> 05:15:20,034
of a simpler, more
innocent time.

3006
05:15:20,058 --> 05:15:21,965
And that's where
we all want to be.

3007
05:15:21,989 --> 05:15:24,413
God knows in this day and age.

3008
05:15:24,437 --> 05:15:26,127
That's where we all want to be.

3009
05:16:56,748 --> 05:16:59,000
So, before watching
"In Search of Darkness",

3010
05:16:59,024 --> 05:17:00,241
I was definitely
one of those guys

3011
05:17:00,265 --> 05:17:02,482
who was like, yeah
man, I know 80s horror.

3012
05:17:02,506 --> 05:17:04,379
Freddie and Jason!

3013
05:17:04,403 --> 05:17:06,241
Sweet!

3014
05:17:06,265 --> 05:17:07,931
And then I watched "In
Search of Darkness",

3015
05:17:07,955 --> 05:17:10,379
and I realized,
you naive bastard,

3016
05:17:10,403 --> 05:17:13,241
you know nothing
about 80s horror.

3017
05:17:13,265 --> 05:17:15,413
So now I actually know things,

3018
05:17:15,437 --> 05:17:17,551
and like, how had
I lived my life

3019
05:17:17,575 --> 05:17:19,551
and missed "Sleepaway Camp"?

3020
05:17:19,575 --> 05:17:21,413
That is a fantastic movie.

3021
05:17:21,437 --> 05:17:24,058
So thank you for awakening me.

3022
05:17:26,920 --> 05:17:28,586
80s horror is
very important to me

3023
05:17:28,610 --> 05:17:30,551
as I grew up in the early 80s,

3024
05:17:30,575 --> 05:17:32,241
and horror was embedded
in our culture.

3025
05:17:32,265 --> 05:17:34,034
It was in our toys,
in our cartoons.

3026
05:17:34,058 --> 05:17:35,207
It was everywhere.

3027
05:17:35,231 --> 05:17:37,241
We used to draw
monsters in art class,

3028
05:17:37,265 --> 05:17:38,310
like the Monster Squad,

3029
05:17:38,334 --> 05:17:39,724
and that was
acceptable back then.

3030
05:17:39,748 --> 05:17:41,827
You wouldn't get locked
up for stuff like that.

3031
05:17:41,851 --> 05:17:43,689
I miss going into a video store

3032
05:17:43,813 --> 05:17:46,065
and grabbing a random VHS

3033
05:17:46,089 --> 05:17:47,617
and saying hey, this
box art, it looks good.

3034
05:17:47,741 --> 05:17:49,476
Is it a curse, or is it great?

3035
05:17:49,500 --> 05:17:50,820
You never know.

3036
05:17:50,844 --> 05:17:52,096
And you watch it
with your friends

3037
05:17:52,220 --> 05:17:53,576
in the middle of the
night, enjoying it,

3038
05:17:53,600 --> 05:17:55,703
and it brings you back
to a simpler time.

3039
05:17:59,151 --> 05:18:00,403
80s horror is so important to me

3040
05:18:00,427 --> 05:18:02,265
because it's an
escape from reality.

3041
05:18:02,289 --> 05:18:04,093
Takes me back to a simpler time.

3042
05:18:04,117 --> 05:18:05,507
Gives me that nostalgia.

3043
05:18:05,531 --> 05:18:06,989
And these documentaries,

3044
05:18:07,013 --> 05:18:09,127
they help nail the fact home

3045
05:18:09,151 --> 05:18:11,576
that horror can
be a cathartic way

3046
05:18:11,600 --> 05:18:14,024
to deal with fear and
all the BS this world

3047
05:18:14,048 --> 05:18:15,265
has to throw at us.

3048
05:18:15,289 --> 05:18:17,127
80s horror, and all
horror in general,

3049
05:18:17,151 --> 05:18:18,369
and I love that.

3050
05:18:18,393 --> 05:18:20,162
These documentaries
are amazing for that.

3051
05:18:20,186 --> 05:18:21,300
Favorite movie of all time?

3052
05:18:21,324 --> 05:18:23,541
"Silver Bullet", 1985.

3053
05:18:23,665 --> 05:18:26,434
It is incredible.

3054
05:18:26,558 --> 05:18:27,558
Rock on.

3055
05:18:30,593 --> 05:18:31,776
Hey.

3056
05:18:31,800 --> 05:18:33,672
I just wanted to say
thank you so, so much

3057
05:18:33,696 --> 05:18:36,707
to everybody involved with
"In Search of Darkness".

3058
05:18:36,731 --> 05:18:38,603
It's been absolutely fantastic.

3059
05:18:38,627 --> 05:18:40,120
I've really, really enjoyed.

3060
05:18:40,144 --> 05:18:42,707
It's flooded back
memories of going down

3061
05:18:42,731 --> 05:18:44,810
the video shop, the video store,

3062
05:18:44,834 --> 05:18:47,672
in the 80s, looking at
the best horror films

3063
05:18:47,696 --> 05:18:49,017
that were released.

3064
05:18:49,041 --> 05:18:50,224
Absolutely fantastic.

3065
05:18:50,248 --> 05:18:51,844
And it's also introduced me

3066
05:18:51,868 --> 05:18:54,672
to some of the
classics that I missed,

3067
05:18:54,696 --> 05:18:57,248
down the video shop, going
back all those years.

3068
05:19:01,627 --> 05:19:04,224
80s horror happened to coincide

3069
05:19:04,248 --> 05:19:07,569
with the VHS era,
and in my opinion,

3070
05:19:07,593 --> 05:19:09,396
the 80s horror was
the prime attraction

3071
05:19:09,420 --> 05:19:10,776
of the VHS.

3072
05:19:10,800 --> 05:19:12,258
I mean, look at that.

3073
05:19:12,282 --> 05:19:14,834
How could you walk by that
and not want to rent it?

3074
05:19:18,213 --> 05:19:19,465
Oh, hi.

3075
05:19:19,489 --> 05:19:20,707
I'm AJ Danna.

3076
05:19:20,731 --> 05:19:23,293
I played Tapehead at
"Slashback Video".

3077
05:19:23,317 --> 05:19:24,913
The "In Search of
Darkness" trilogy

3078
05:19:24,937 --> 05:19:27,327
has meant so much to
dust off these old

3079
05:19:27,351 --> 05:19:30,327
classic horror tapes, and
make sure each and every

3080
05:19:30,351 --> 05:19:34,120
actor and filmmaker involved
in these movie making gems

3081
05:19:34,144 --> 05:19:36,327
did not pour their
blood, sweat, and tears

3082
05:19:36,351 --> 05:19:38,800
into movies in vain.

3083
05:19:39,868 --> 05:19:41,041
So anyways, thanks.

3084
05:19:44,351 --> 05:19:46,224
I decided to back the "In
Search of Darkness" series

3085
05:19:46,248 --> 05:19:48,707
for the tireless people
behind Creator BC,

3086
05:19:48,731 --> 05:19:50,776
because you learn something
interesting and significant

3087
05:19:50,800 --> 05:19:52,844
about the films from the
people who worked on the films

3088
05:19:52,868 --> 05:19:54,868
that you can't
find anywhere else.

3089
05:19:57,248 --> 05:19:59,534
To me, horror movies
were a safe haven

3090
05:19:59,558 --> 05:20:00,776
growing up in the 80s.

3091
05:20:00,800 --> 05:20:03,224
I spent so many hours
in the video store

3092
05:20:03,248 --> 05:20:05,465
browsing for titles to watch.

3093
05:20:05,489 --> 05:20:08,293
When "In Search of
Darkness: Part One" ended,

3094
05:20:08,317 --> 05:20:11,293
the covers shown up with a key,

3095
05:20:11,317 --> 05:20:15,086
and a dark room, the
TV, the characters.

3096
05:20:15,110 --> 05:20:17,800
It was like I was that same boy.

3097
05:20:18,972 --> 05:20:22,189
This documentary has
been a door to go back

3098
05:20:22,213 --> 05:20:23,524
and complete that journey.

3099
05:20:25,868 --> 05:20:27,569
80s horror movies
are important to me

3100
05:20:27,593 --> 05:20:29,293
because I was raised
the right way,

3101
05:20:29,317 --> 05:20:30,534
and grew up watching them

3102
05:20:30,558 --> 05:20:32,120
ever since I was
a wee little one,

3103
05:20:32,144 --> 05:20:33,982
despite not growing
up in that generation.

3104
05:20:34,006 --> 05:20:36,155
But it was cool people
from that generation

3105
05:20:36,179 --> 05:20:37,879
who showed me those
movies, and gave us

3106
05:20:37,903 --> 05:20:39,189
something to bond over.

3107
05:20:39,213 --> 05:20:41,155
But my favorite
horror movie has to be

3108
05:20:41,179 --> 05:20:42,396
John Carpenter's "The Thing".

3109
05:20:42,420 --> 05:20:44,569
The most amazing
practical effects

3110
05:20:44,593 --> 05:20:46,569
to the gore, and
of course starring

3111
05:20:46,593 --> 05:20:49,396
the absolute hunks Kurt
Russel and Keith David,

3112
05:20:49,420 --> 05:20:50,776
what is there not to love?

3113
05:20:50,800 --> 05:20:52,189
So 80s horror rules,

3114
05:20:52,213 --> 05:20:53,810
and thanks to "In
Search of Darkness"

3115
05:20:53,834 --> 05:20:55,179
for bringing it all back.

3116
05:20:57,317 --> 05:21:01,224
You know, growing up as a
kid with not many friends,

3117
05:21:01,248 --> 05:21:03,765
actually I had none
until I was 10.

3118
05:21:05,144 --> 05:21:08,086
Single father, worked
nights, and slept all day.

3119
05:21:08,110 --> 05:21:10,569
Horror movies were my go-to,

3120
05:21:10,593 --> 05:21:13,051
and the monsters
were my friends,

3121
05:21:13,075 --> 05:21:14,879
and it was just awesome.

3122
05:21:14,903 --> 05:21:17,844
With the "In Search
of Darkness" trilogy,

3123
05:21:17,868 --> 05:21:21,258
I got to relive that
past as a child,

3124
05:21:21,282 --> 05:21:25,144
and it just, it's perfect.

3125
05:21:29,972 --> 05:21:31,051
80s horror was the best.

3126
05:21:31,075 --> 05:21:32,362
It was imagination.

3127
05:21:32,386 --> 05:21:33,603
It was entertainment.

3128
05:21:33,627 --> 05:21:35,603
It was fun, it was
gory, it was crazy,

3129
05:21:35,627 --> 05:21:36,432
it was the best.

3130
05:21:36,456 --> 05:21:37,868
80 horror rules!

3131
05:21:40,800 --> 05:21:42,948
I'm Matt Weinhold,
and I love 80s horror

3132
05:21:42,972 --> 05:21:46,017
because it's scary,
sexy, innovative,

3133
05:21:46,041 --> 05:21:49,638
indecent, unapologetic, and fun!

3134
05:21:49,662 --> 05:21:51,868
It's the punk rock of horror!

3135
05:21:58,489 --> 05:22:00,844
Having been a
teenager in the 1980s,

3136
05:22:00,868 --> 05:22:03,500
I was able to experience
most of these films

3137
05:22:03,524 --> 05:22:05,189
in a theatrical setting.

3138
05:22:05,213 --> 05:22:08,224
The 80s gave us the
best of John Landis,

3139
05:22:08,248 --> 05:22:11,155
and John Carpenter,
and David Cronenberg,

3140
05:22:11,179 --> 05:22:13,396
and we got to see the
birth of franchises

3141
05:22:13,420 --> 05:22:15,672
of "Friday the 13th" and
"Nightmare on Elm Street",

3142
05:22:15,696 --> 05:22:17,603
and "Poltergeist", "Evil Dead",

3143
05:22:17,627 --> 05:22:20,086
and what "In Search of
Darkness" has allowed me to do

3144
05:22:20,110 --> 05:22:23,603
is revisit those memories,
and love these films

3145
05:22:23,627 --> 05:22:24,662
all over again.

3146
05:22:27,793 --> 05:22:31,079
In the 1980s, we
gazed into the abyss,

3147
05:22:31,203 --> 05:22:32,696
and we smiled,

3148
05:22:32,720 --> 05:22:35,765
because it was filled with
visceral practical effects,

3149
05:22:35,789 --> 05:22:38,662
intrepid heroes, garish demons,

3150
05:22:38,686 --> 05:22:41,455
and synth-laden
nightmare schemes.

3151
05:22:41,479 --> 05:22:43,317
Thanks to "In
Search of Darkness",

3152
05:22:43,341 --> 05:22:47,479
the abyss can finally gaze
back at us, and smile.

3153
05:22:51,927 --> 05:22:53,386
My love of 80s horror films

3154
05:22:53,410 --> 05:22:55,800
started back when
I was 11 years old.

3155
05:22:55,824 --> 05:22:57,524
I stayed up one night
and watched "A Nightmare

3156
05:22:57,548 --> 05:22:59,248
"on Elm Street" with my mum.

3157
05:22:59,272 --> 05:23:01,041
Halfway through the
film, I got so scared

3158
05:23:01,065 --> 05:23:04,144
that I went up to bed,
and five minutes later,

3159
05:23:04,168 --> 05:23:05,696
I was back downstairs
watching the rest

3160
05:23:05,720 --> 05:23:07,179
of the film with her.

3161
05:23:07,203 --> 05:23:09,927
That's where it started, and
it's never stopped since.

3162
05:23:12,582 --> 05:23:15,420
Watching "In Search of
Darkness" documentaries

3163
05:23:15,444 --> 05:23:18,513
takes me back to the best
part of my childhood,

3164
05:23:19,962 --> 05:23:23,800
and also knowing that I'm
watching these documentaries

3165
05:23:23,824 --> 05:23:26,386
with a community of people

3166
05:23:26,410 --> 05:23:29,869
that also share my
love of 80s horror,

3167
05:23:29,893 --> 05:23:31,858
it is the best feeling.

3168
05:23:34,237 --> 05:23:38,800
The immense popularity
of these movies

3169
05:23:38,824 --> 05:23:41,938
showed so many of
us that we were part

3170
05:23:41,962 --> 05:23:46,800
of a global community,
and so in a way,

3171
05:23:46,824 --> 05:23:48,972
the darkness became
a place of comfort,

3172
05:23:48,996 --> 05:23:52,824
because we knew
we weren't alone.

3173
05:23:55,272 --> 05:23:58,524
In a sense, it's more
like it's our story,

3174
05:23:58,548 --> 05:24:00,386
and what these
movies mean to us,

3175
05:24:00,410 --> 05:24:03,031
and I can't thank these
documentaries enough for that.

3176
05:24:05,479 --> 05:24:07,765
Everything about
it is so beautiful.

3177
05:24:07,789 --> 05:24:10,213
It's one of the
best times of horror

3178
05:24:10,237 --> 05:24:13,410
and it makes me feel
better about me and myself.

3179
05:24:17,962 --> 05:24:20,213
There's something
for everyone in there,

3180
05:24:20,237 --> 05:24:23,489
whether you like
slashers, comedies,

3181
05:24:23,513 --> 05:24:26,869
my personal favorite
horror movie from the 1980s

3182
05:24:26,893 --> 05:24:28,800
is "Killer Klowns
from Outer Space".

3183
05:24:28,824 --> 05:24:30,386
I saw that movie the first time

3184
05:24:30,410 --> 05:24:34,076
when I was maybe 10 years old,

3185
05:24:34,100 --> 05:24:36,696
and that's one of the
movies that made me

3186
05:24:36,720 --> 05:24:39,282
fall in love with horror,
and the reason I'm as big

3187
05:24:39,306 --> 05:24:41,168
of a horror fan as I am today.

3188
05:24:43,996 --> 05:24:46,076
When I wanted to
get into horror,

3189
05:24:46,100 --> 05:24:49,317
and I was too scared
to watch it by myself,

3190
05:24:49,341 --> 05:24:52,455
my friends would sit with
me in my dark basement,

3191
05:24:52,479 --> 05:24:56,007
and we would watch 80s
horror movies together.

3192
05:24:56,031 --> 05:24:58,110
And we started
with the classics,

3193
05:24:58,134 --> 05:25:02,076
and slowly moved our way out
to totally obscure titles,

3194
05:25:02,100 --> 05:25:06,869
but for me, those were really
special times in my life.

3195
05:25:06,893 --> 05:25:09,696
And it really made horror,
especially 80s horror,

3196
05:25:09,720 --> 05:25:12,720
something that brought
people together in my life.

3197
05:25:15,341 --> 05:25:18,041
80s horror movies really
had a style of their own

3198
05:25:18,065 --> 05:25:19,662
that make this
particular decade of work

3199
05:25:19,686 --> 05:25:22,076
always so unique
to look back on.

3200
05:25:22,100 --> 05:25:24,110
It was also a decade where
it felt like special effects

3201
05:25:24,134 --> 05:25:26,696
were perfected in such a way,
you could almost smell them

3202
05:25:26,720 --> 05:25:29,351
through your screen,
something like "The Thing",

3203
05:25:29,375 --> 05:25:31,110
and speaking of "The
Thing", you could have

3204
05:25:31,134 --> 05:25:33,420
hard horror subject like that,

3205
05:25:33,444 --> 05:25:35,455
but you could have also
sillier stuff like "Vamp",

3206
05:25:35,479 --> 05:25:37,765
which makes this particular
decade always so fun

3207
05:25:37,789 --> 05:25:40,248
to go back and
discover new gems,

3208
05:25:40,272 --> 05:25:42,558
and I really am glad that
these documentaries exist

3209
05:25:42,582 --> 05:25:44,031
to highlight all of that.

3210
05:25:46,375 --> 05:25:49,765
Best thing about 80s horror
were the comedy movies,

3211
05:25:49,789 --> 05:25:52,938
like "The Burbs",
and "Gremlins 2",

3212
05:25:52,962 --> 05:25:54,938
"House", "House 2",
the "Ghostbusters",

3213
05:25:54,962 --> 05:25:57,076
all those movies made
it so much easier

3214
05:25:57,100 --> 05:25:59,903
as a kid to then turn
around and be able to watch

3215
05:25:59,927 --> 05:26:02,351
movies with this
scary bastard in it,

3216
05:26:02,375 --> 05:26:04,720
and scare the shit out of
you when you're a little kid.

3217
05:26:06,789 --> 05:26:08,593
John Carpenter, Wes
Craven, Tobe Hooper,

3218
05:26:08,617 --> 05:26:10,938
Tom Holland, Peter
Jackson, Sam Raimi,

3219
05:26:10,962 --> 05:26:12,662
Stewart Gordon, Don Coscarelli.

3220
05:26:12,686 --> 05:26:14,627
I just need an
indestructible boogeyman

3221
05:26:14,651 --> 05:26:16,627
carving up annoying teenagers.

3222
05:26:16,651 --> 05:26:17,903
I don't need to know how or why.

3223
05:26:17,927 --> 05:26:19,420
It just has to show
up every few years,

3224
05:26:19,444 --> 05:26:21,213
and do it again
in creative ways.

3225
05:26:21,237 --> 05:26:23,076
Give me a monster
with sharp teeth,

3226
05:26:23,100 --> 05:26:24,386
and gooey tentacles.

3227
05:26:24,410 --> 05:26:26,041
What I don't want
is found footage,

3228
05:26:26,065 --> 05:26:27,696
and shaky cam and
possessed dolls,

3229
05:26:27,720 --> 05:26:30,386
and cheesy ghosts, and
spare me all the CGI blood.

3230
05:26:30,410 --> 05:26:32,489
I want Tom Savini,
Screaming Mad George.

3231
05:26:32,513 --> 05:26:34,651
I want a Kurtzman
Nicotero hamburger.

3232
05:26:38,203 --> 05:26:39,008
Hey guys.

3233
05:26:39,032 --> 05:26:40,420
My name is Jason.

3234
05:26:40,444 --> 05:26:41,800
And no surprise, my
favorite horror franchise

3235
05:26:41,824 --> 05:26:43,903
of all time is
"Friday the 13th".

3236
05:26:43,927 --> 05:26:46,489
I did a book report on
Part 3 in grade six.

3237
05:26:46,513 --> 05:26:48,696
Yes, I was in grade six
watching these movies,

3238
05:26:48,720 --> 05:26:50,237
and I absolutely loved them.

3239
05:26:51,789 --> 05:26:54,593
I think the 80s is
absolutely the greatest decade

3240
05:26:54,617 --> 05:26:57,007
of horror films, and
I grew up in the 90s.

3241
05:26:57,031 --> 05:26:59,144
There were so many great
horror films made back then.

3242
05:26:59,168 --> 05:27:01,765
I can't even decide
which one's my favorite.

3243
05:27:01,789 --> 05:27:03,627
I also think "In Search of
Darkness" is the greatest

3244
05:27:03,651 --> 05:27:05,800
documentary ever made.

3245
05:27:05,824 --> 05:27:07,213
It introduced me to
several horror films

3246
05:27:07,237 --> 05:27:09,558
I had never heard of,
including "Sleepaway Camp",

3247
05:27:09,582 --> 05:27:11,144
"Fade to Black", "Motel Hell",

3248
05:27:11,168 --> 05:27:12,386
"American Werewolf in London",

3249
05:27:12,410 --> 05:27:14,800
"Society", "Scanners",
"The Changeling",

3250
05:27:14,824 --> 05:27:17,076
"The Ghost Story",
and so many more.

3251
05:27:17,100 --> 05:27:18,386
I don't think there
will ever be anything

3252
05:27:18,410 --> 05:27:20,272
like 80s horror ever again

3253
05:27:22,582 --> 05:27:24,076
Hello, everyone.

3254
05:27:24,100 --> 05:27:26,110
What I've enjoyed most about
the "In Search of Darkness"

3255
05:27:26,134 --> 05:27:28,489
documentary series
would have to be

3256
05:27:28,513 --> 05:27:31,489
the behind the scenes
information about the movies

3257
05:27:31,513 --> 05:27:36,076
I know and love, but also,
and probably more importantly,

3258
05:27:36,100 --> 05:27:38,731
the vast amount of hidden gems

3259
05:27:38,755 --> 05:27:40,420
it has introduced me to.

3260
05:27:40,444 --> 05:27:43,455
It is mind-blowing how many
entertaining horror movies

3261
05:27:43,479 --> 05:27:45,041
there are from that decade.

3262
05:27:45,065 --> 05:27:46,065
So thank you.

3263
05:27:47,824 --> 05:27:49,351
One of my favorite
1980s horror movies

3264
05:27:49,375 --> 05:27:51,213
would have to be
"Night of the Demons".

3265
05:27:51,237 --> 05:27:52,903
Reason being, I was pretty young

3266
05:27:52,927 --> 05:27:54,248
when the movie first came out.

3267
05:27:54,272 --> 05:27:55,834
My older sister
introduced me to the film

3268
05:27:55,858 --> 05:27:57,386
because she wanted to scare me.

3269
05:27:57,410 --> 05:27:58,869
It scared me pretty good.

3270
05:27:58,893 --> 05:28:00,869
I remember having a hard time
going to sleep that night,

3271
05:28:00,893 --> 05:28:03,100
scared that the monster
was gonna get me.

3272
05:28:04,548 --> 05:28:07,144
So I have a lot of nostalgic
feelings about the movie.

3273
05:28:07,168 --> 05:28:08,651
That's why I like it so much.

3274
05:28:10,824 --> 05:28:14,076
My first and absolute
favorite 80s horror movie

3275
05:28:14,100 --> 05:28:15,765
is "American Werewolf in London"

3276
05:28:15,789 --> 05:28:17,627
by John Landis.

3277
05:28:17,651 --> 05:28:20,662
Watching that movie sent
me down a rabbit hole

3278
05:28:20,686 --> 05:28:23,731
of 80s horror movies that
I'd never seen before,

3279
05:28:23,755 --> 05:28:25,558
and through that
movie, I got introduced

3280
05:28:25,582 --> 05:28:27,237
to "In Search of Darkness",

3281
05:28:28,651 --> 05:28:31,455
and ever since, things
have never been the same,

3282
05:28:31,479 --> 05:28:33,731
and it's been an
amazing journey.

3283
05:28:33,755 --> 05:28:34,962
I thank you for it.

3284
05:28:37,755 --> 05:28:40,282
80s horror is incredibly
important to me.

3285
05:28:40,306 --> 05:28:42,282
Horror slashed its
way into my life

3286
05:28:42,306 --> 05:28:43,524
when I was a kid.

3287
05:28:43,548 --> 05:28:45,455
Myself and my buddies
would stay up all night

3288
05:28:45,479 --> 05:28:47,627
watching horror movies,
from horror icons

3289
05:28:47,651 --> 05:28:49,627
like Freddie, to "Killer
Klowns from Outer Space".

3290
05:28:49,651 --> 05:28:51,627
The greatest times of my life

3291
05:28:51,651 --> 05:28:53,076
is due to the horror genre.

3292
05:28:53,100 --> 05:28:55,765
80s horror strapped
me into my adult life

3293
05:28:55,789 --> 05:28:58,351
where I now collect
80s horror memorabilia,

3294
05:28:58,375 --> 05:29:00,627
plus I'm always on the
hunt for 80s horror

3295
05:29:00,651 --> 05:29:02,076
that I'm yet to discover.

3296
05:29:02,100 --> 05:29:04,489
I have an insatiable
thirst for blood in film.

3297
05:29:04,513 --> 05:29:06,213
Tom Savini's work in the genre

3298
05:29:06,237 --> 05:29:07,903
has my jaw dropped to the floor.

3299
05:29:07,927 --> 05:29:10,076
The realism of his
work is something

3300
05:29:10,100 --> 05:29:12,524
that's gonna be admired
long after I'm gone.

3301
05:29:12,548 --> 05:29:15,524
For me, he sets the bar for
practical effects within horror.

3302
05:29:15,548 --> 05:29:17,386
I love "In Search of
Darkness", as it's

3303
05:29:17,410 --> 05:29:20,213
a time capsule of
horror, for us, the fans.

3304
05:29:20,237 --> 05:29:22,662
"In Search of Darkness"
is also a love letter

3305
05:29:22,686 --> 05:29:24,489
to everyone that
holds a special place

3306
05:29:24,513 --> 05:29:25,824
in their heart for horror.

3307
05:29:27,548 --> 05:29:29,938
I love how they use
all practical effects,

3308
05:29:29,962 --> 05:29:32,213
for these, all the
blood and guts,

3309
05:29:32,237 --> 05:29:34,627
all the rubber monsters
that they used,

3310
05:29:34,651 --> 05:29:36,903
all the costume work
is all hand made,

3311
05:29:36,927 --> 05:29:38,627
and all practically done.

3312
05:29:38,651 --> 05:29:40,237
It makes it look great.

3313
05:29:42,272 --> 05:29:45,144
The 80s was an era of DIY.

3314
05:29:45,168 --> 05:29:47,179
If you didn't have a
passion for your craft,

3315
05:29:47,203 --> 05:29:50,110
or you didn't want
your story to be told,

3316
05:29:50,134 --> 05:29:52,938
it simply wouldn't
make it out there.

3317
05:29:52,962 --> 05:29:55,110
This is what showed in
the films growing up,

3318
05:29:55,134 --> 05:29:56,903
which was hard.

3319
05:29:56,927 --> 05:29:59,455
It's difficult to
articulate this feeling.

3320
05:29:59,479 --> 05:30:01,869
However, every fan or
person contributing

3321
05:30:01,893 --> 05:30:05,179
to this series, will have
moments which resonated

3322
05:30:05,203 --> 05:30:07,789
and impacted into
their adult life.

3323
05:30:10,651 --> 05:30:12,213
What I love most about the 80s,

3324
05:30:12,337 --> 05:30:14,589
especially 80s horror movies,

3325
05:30:14,613 --> 05:30:17,313
is just how ridiculous
the concepts are,

3326
05:30:17,337 --> 05:30:19,993
and just how well
they're executed.

3327
05:30:21,958 --> 05:30:25,176
"In Search of Darkness"
meant a lot to me

3328
05:30:25,200 --> 05:30:28,589
because it introduced
me to a whole field,

3329
05:30:28,613 --> 05:30:30,279
a whole group of people,

3330
05:30:30,303 --> 05:30:33,762
that are so dedicated,
and so motivated,

3331
05:30:33,786 --> 05:30:36,900
on trying to find a
lot of 80s horror films

3332
05:30:36,924 --> 05:30:40,107
that not a lot of younger
horror film fans even heard of.

3333
05:30:40,131 --> 05:30:42,382
Sometimes y'all have
heard of "Halloween"

3334
05:30:42,406 --> 05:30:45,279
or "Friday the 13th", or
"Nightmare on Elm Street",

3335
05:30:45,303 --> 05:30:47,176
but it's these
small classic films

3336
05:30:47,200 --> 05:30:49,038
that really hold
deep to my heart,

3337
05:30:49,062 --> 05:30:50,382
knowing that a lot of
people have seen it

3338
05:30:50,406 --> 05:30:51,969
really brings joy to me.

3339
05:30:51,993 --> 05:30:53,579
That's why it meant a lot to me.

3340
05:30:57,234 --> 05:30:58,486
Hey, I'm Twisted Todd.

3341
05:30:58,510 --> 05:30:59,969
I'm a big fan of
80s horror films,

3342
05:30:59,993 --> 05:31:01,865
mainly because as a kid
growing up in the 80s,

3343
05:31:01,889 --> 05:31:03,072
didn't get to watch a
lot of horror movies,

3344
05:31:03,096 --> 05:31:04,969
but my parents
rented a lot of them,

3345
05:31:04,993 --> 05:31:06,244
and I got to hear
them from my bedroom,

3346
05:31:06,268 --> 05:31:07,555
which fed my curiosity,

3347
05:31:07,579 --> 05:31:09,072
so about the time I
was in middle school

3348
05:31:09,096 --> 05:31:11,244
in the late 80s, finally
got to watch horror films,

3349
05:31:11,268 --> 05:31:12,900
fell in love with
the slasher genre,

3350
05:31:12,924 --> 05:31:14,589
love films like "Creepshow",

3351
05:31:14,613 --> 05:31:16,417
and then later on
in my college days,

3352
05:31:16,441 --> 05:31:19,589
I really fell in love
with the cinematic genius

3353
05:31:19,613 --> 05:31:21,210
of directors like
John Carpenter,

3354
05:31:21,234 --> 05:31:22,451
and of course Sam Raimi,

3355
05:31:22,475 --> 05:31:24,200
because I'm a huge
"Evil Dead" fan.

3356
05:31:26,303 --> 05:31:28,762
I grew up mesmerized
by horror movies,

3357
05:31:28,786 --> 05:31:31,072
primarily throughout the 80s.

3358
05:31:31,096 --> 05:31:33,141
They were such an important part

3359
05:31:33,165 --> 05:31:35,141
of many of my formative years,

3360
05:31:35,165 --> 05:31:38,624
and contribute to so many
of my young memories.

3361
05:31:38,648 --> 05:31:40,865
I've since come to
embrace and enjoy

3362
05:31:40,889 --> 05:31:42,969
all cinema, having
learned so much more

3363
05:31:42,993 --> 05:31:45,555
about all genres over the years,

3364
05:31:45,579 --> 05:31:47,441
but you never forget
your first love.

3365
05:31:49,613 --> 05:31:50,831
Horror films of the 80s

3366
05:31:50,855 --> 05:31:53,934
were so imaginative,
and so ambitious,

3367
05:31:53,958 --> 05:31:56,417
but they pull it off,
and there's a real

3368
05:31:56,441 --> 05:31:58,072
charm to them, a levity
that we didn't have

3369
05:31:58,096 --> 05:32:00,417
in the 70s, when
everything was very real,

3370
05:32:00,441 --> 05:32:02,176
and very gritty,
and then we lost it

3371
05:32:02,200 --> 05:32:03,520
somewhere in the 90s,

3372
05:32:03,544 --> 05:32:05,417
and then things
got very cynical.

3373
05:32:05,441 --> 05:32:07,313
But there's a fun
factor to the 80s,

3374
05:32:07,337 --> 05:32:10,313
and it's no surprise
that it takes a project

3375
05:32:10,337 --> 05:32:12,693
three, four plus
hour documentaries

3376
05:32:12,717 --> 05:32:14,682
to really do that
decade justice.

3377
05:32:16,682 --> 05:32:18,244
Growing up in the
80s, horror movies

3378
05:32:18,268 --> 05:32:19,693
were a big part of my life.

3379
05:32:19,717 --> 05:32:21,348
Thanks to a video rentals shop,

3380
05:32:21,372 --> 05:32:22,762
I was able to watch
as many as I want

3381
05:32:22,786 --> 05:32:25,796
when I wanted without
issue on my edge,

3382
05:32:25,820 --> 05:32:27,176
that helped me get through
the trauma of school,

3383
05:32:27,200 --> 05:32:28,969
and everything
that came with it,

3384
05:32:28,993 --> 05:32:31,176
and this is why I'm
passionate about them,

3385
05:32:31,200 --> 05:32:33,417
and in particular,
"Nightmare on Elm Street"

3386
05:32:33,441 --> 05:32:35,613
is one I'm really
passionate about.

3387
05:32:39,682 --> 05:32:42,796
80s horror movies were a
big part of my childhood,

3388
05:32:42,820 --> 05:32:44,865
having grown up in the 80s,

3389
05:32:44,889 --> 05:32:46,865
I watched them all.

3390
05:32:46,889 --> 05:32:50,141
My favorite 80s horror
movie of all time

3391
05:32:50,165 --> 05:32:52,348
is "A Nightmare on Elm Street".

3392
05:32:52,372 --> 05:32:55,934
It was the first horror
movie I ever saw,

3393
05:32:55,958 --> 05:32:59,417
and it planted the seed
for my love of horror.

3394
05:32:59,441 --> 05:33:01,658
These "Search for
Darkness" documentaries

3395
05:33:01,682 --> 05:33:04,762
have been nostalgic,
and brought back

3396
05:33:04,786 --> 05:33:08,579
all those happy memories
of visiting video stores.

3397
05:33:10,682 --> 05:33:12,141
I was born in 1980,

3398
05:33:12,165 --> 05:33:13,727
so being a child of the 80s,

3399
05:33:13,751 --> 05:33:15,107
some of my best memories

3400
05:33:15,131 --> 05:33:16,039
were hanging out with my mom

3401
05:33:16,063 --> 05:33:17,555
on a Friday or Saturday night,

3402
05:33:17,579 --> 05:33:19,313
going down to the
local video store,

3403
05:33:19,337 --> 05:33:22,693
getting some 80s
horror on VHS tape,

3404
05:33:22,717 --> 05:33:23,900
and just making those memories

3405
05:33:23,924 --> 05:33:25,624
and being scared, laughing,

3406
05:33:25,648 --> 05:33:27,520
and getting all cringed up.

3407
05:33:27,544 --> 05:33:29,486
And the "In Search
of Darkness" series

3408
05:33:29,510 --> 05:33:31,727
has brought those
memories back to me,

3409
05:33:31,751 --> 05:33:33,969
and helped me discover
all the horror films

3410
05:33:33,993 --> 05:33:35,313
I never knew existed!

3411
05:33:35,337 --> 05:33:36,337
Thank you for that.

3412
05:33:38,993 --> 05:33:40,176
Hi there.

3413
05:33:40,200 --> 05:33:41,900
I love watching horror
movie documentaries

3414
05:33:41,924 --> 05:33:43,451
and anything regarding horror,

3415
05:33:43,475 --> 05:33:45,107
but one series I really love

3416
05:33:45,131 --> 05:33:47,624
is the "In Search
of Darkness" series.

3417
05:33:47,648 --> 05:33:49,520
I love how all these
people just show

3418
05:33:49,544 --> 05:33:51,520
how much they love and
care for these movies,

3419
05:33:51,544 --> 05:33:53,865
especially for the movies
I've never even heard before,

3420
05:33:53,889 --> 05:33:56,486
and I love this series,
because it shows me

3421
05:33:56,510 --> 05:33:57,762
all different kinds of horror

3422
05:33:57,786 --> 05:33:59,796
that I haven't
even heard before,

3423
05:33:59,820 --> 05:34:02,176
or even seen, or
anything like that.

3424
05:34:02,200 --> 05:34:04,003
So I'm sad that it's ending,

3425
05:34:04,027 --> 05:34:06,682
but hey, gotta end
sometimes, right?

3426
05:34:09,165 --> 05:34:10,486
I think most horror
fans would agree

3427
05:34:10,510 --> 05:34:12,520
that the absolute
best decade for horror

3428
05:34:12,544 --> 05:34:13,693
was the 1980s.

3429
05:34:13,717 --> 05:34:15,107
We got the best of the best,

3430
05:34:15,131 --> 05:34:16,382
the worst of the worst,

3431
05:34:16,406 --> 05:34:17,520
the best of the worst,

3432
05:34:17,544 --> 05:34:18,969
and everything in between.

3433
05:34:18,993 --> 05:34:20,176
I can't even pick a favorite,

3434
05:34:20,200 --> 05:34:21,969
because there's far too
many to choose from,

3435
05:34:21,993 --> 05:34:23,831
but having something like
the "In Search of Darkness"

3436
05:34:23,855 --> 05:34:26,727
trilogy has been an
absolute dream come true.

3437
05:34:26,751 --> 05:34:29,072
Getting to sit there for
hours and hours on end,

3438
05:34:29,096 --> 05:34:30,831
and watch my favorite filmmakers

3439
05:34:30,855 --> 05:34:32,934
talk about my favorite
films has been great,

3440
05:34:32,958 --> 05:34:35,210
but it's also been great
to be able to discover

3441
05:34:35,234 --> 05:34:37,855
new movies that I may not
have even heard of before.

3442
05:34:40,131 --> 05:34:42,451
"Evil Dead II", "Re-Animator",

3443
05:34:42,475 --> 05:34:44,934
"The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2",

3444
05:34:44,958 --> 05:34:48,865
all of these great horror films,

3445
05:34:48,889 --> 05:34:52,855
with comedic timing,
comedy inserted into it,

3446
05:34:53,993 --> 05:34:56,176
really affect me, shape me,

3447
05:34:56,200 --> 05:35:00,934
to such a degree that
today I write about horror

3448
05:35:00,958 --> 05:35:04,200
and horror comedy for
Pace Magazine and Vulture.

3449
05:35:09,475 --> 05:35:12,727
80s horror for me
signifies complete nostalgia.

3450
05:35:12,751 --> 05:35:14,693
I clearly remember
being a young boy

3451
05:35:14,717 --> 05:35:17,486
and seeing these wonderful
and iconic 80s posters,

3452
05:35:17,510 --> 05:35:20,727
and being simultaneously
scared and intrigued.

3453
05:35:20,751 --> 05:35:23,589
But now as an academic
that writes about horror,

3454
05:35:23,613 --> 05:35:25,348
documentaries like "In
Search of Darkness"

3455
05:35:25,372 --> 05:35:27,693
are highly important as
they raise the profile

3456
05:35:27,717 --> 05:35:29,348
of horrors in that form.

3457
05:35:29,372 --> 05:35:31,934
These films are not
only fun and super cool,

3458
05:35:31,958 --> 05:35:34,865
but they are significant
cultural products,

3459
05:35:34,889 --> 05:35:37,717
well-deserving of academic
analysis and study.

3460
05:35:40,200 --> 05:35:44,038
The 80s was a time when
the horror genre exploded.

3461
05:35:44,062 --> 05:35:46,693
Big name horror icons
like Jason, Freddie,

3462
05:35:46,717 --> 05:35:49,589
Chuckie, Pinhead, all got
their start in the 80s.

3463
05:35:49,613 --> 05:35:52,141
And being a late 90s
kid, these were names

3464
05:35:52,165 --> 05:35:55,176
that I grew up knowing to fear.

3465
05:35:55,200 --> 05:35:56,934
My girlfriend and I searched out

3466
05:35:56,958 --> 05:35:58,486
a lot of these films,
and it was something

3467
05:35:58,510 --> 05:36:00,382
that we could always bond over.

3468
05:36:00,406 --> 05:36:02,279
And I think that "In
Search of Darkness"

3469
05:36:02,303 --> 05:36:03,900
did something really great,

3470
05:36:03,924 --> 05:36:07,200
cataloging and celebrating
all of these films.

3471
05:36:09,200 --> 05:36:11,176
They have inspired
me to go to college

3472
05:36:11,200 --> 05:36:13,693
and learn how to
write horror films.

3473
05:36:13,717 --> 05:36:14,934
I'm a future filmmaker

3474
05:36:14,958 --> 05:36:17,475
because of all the
movies I've watched.

3475
05:36:19,096 --> 05:36:20,796
And I'm thankful that I was able

3476
05:36:20,820 --> 05:36:22,682
to be a part of this community.

3477
05:36:25,475 --> 05:36:28,176
Watching horror movies
as a kid in the 80s

3478
05:36:28,200 --> 05:36:30,865
inspired me to get
into the film industry,

3479
05:36:30,889 --> 05:36:34,210
especially to make
horror movies of my own,

3480
05:36:34,234 --> 05:36:36,555
and so "In Search of
Darkness" continues

3481
05:36:36,579 --> 05:36:38,796
to be that inspiration,

3482
05:36:38,820 --> 05:36:41,589
and I hope it does the same

3483
05:36:41,613 --> 05:36:44,658
for, you know,  the next wave
of horror creators,

3484
05:36:44,882 --> 05:36:46,631
for generations to come.

3485
05:36:49,696 --> 05:36:51,120
80s horror means a lot to me,

3486
05:36:51,144 --> 05:36:52,431
takes me back to
when I was a kid

3487
05:36:52,455 --> 05:36:54,258
hanging out with my
brothers and my friends,

3488
05:36:54,282 --> 05:36:56,465
staying up late, watching
movies I know I should not

3489
05:36:56,489 --> 05:36:57,913
have been watching at the time,

3490
05:36:57,937 --> 05:36:59,776
and falling in love with
stories and characters

3491
05:36:59,800 --> 05:37:01,913
created by Wes Craven,
John Carpenter,

3492
05:37:01,937 --> 05:37:04,017
George Romero, and Charles Band.

3493
05:37:04,041 --> 05:37:05,534
I will always be in their debt

3494
05:37:05,558 --> 05:37:07,362
for providing me with
hours of entertainment,

3495
05:37:07,386 --> 05:37:08,776
and with "In Search
of Darkness",

3496
05:37:08,800 --> 05:37:10,741
it has provided me
with even more hours

3497
05:37:10,765 --> 05:37:12,017
of 80s horror entertainment

3498
05:37:12,041 --> 05:37:14,603
that I will continue
to watch to this day.

3499
05:37:14,627 --> 05:37:17,765
Long live 80s horror and
"In Search of Darkness".

3500
05:37:21,620 --> 05:37:24,665
As an 80s kid, one
of my favorite memories

3501
05:37:24,689 --> 05:37:28,838
are from video stores Friday
night selecting movies.

3502
05:37:28,862 --> 05:37:31,493
The horror section always
had the best films,

3503
05:37:31,517 --> 05:37:33,344
and the most amazing cover art.

3504
05:37:34,620 --> 05:37:36,941
The 80s horror
basically has it all,

3505
05:37:36,965 --> 05:37:39,320
a great story, a good cast,

3506
05:37:39,344 --> 05:37:42,275
amazing special effects,
and a cool soundtrack.

3507
05:37:44,924 --> 05:37:47,658
These documentaries have
been life-changing for me.

3508
05:37:47,782 --> 05:37:50,310
They were films that
I had forgotten about,

3509
05:37:50,434 --> 05:37:52,651
films that I had never seen,

3510
05:37:52,675 --> 05:37:55,662
and a love for a distinct period

3511
05:37:56,186 --> 05:38:00,376
of my early life that I oftentimes
feel disconnected from,

3512
05:38:00,500 --> 05:38:04,820
and I'm so thankful to
have found these projects,

3513
05:38:04,844 --> 05:38:06,534
and been able to
back all of them.

3514
05:38:08,644 --> 05:38:09,644
Thank you.

3515
05:38:12,093 --> 05:38:13,817
All the best parts of nostalgia

3516
05:38:15,472 --> 05:38:16,938
in a pool of blood.

3517
05:38:17,062 --> 05:38:18,062
Love it.

3518
05:38:19,958 --> 05:38:21,486
Hey, this is Jacob.

3519
05:38:21,510 --> 05:38:22,727
And Angelica.

3520
05:38:22,751 --> 05:38:24,658
We're both fans of
80s horror movies.

3521
05:38:24,682 --> 05:38:27,072
That's why we own
all three volumes

3522
05:38:27,096 --> 05:38:28,727
of "In Search of Darkness".

3523
05:38:28,751 --> 05:38:31,279
It's a dictionary, basically,
of all the greatest

3524
05:38:31,303 --> 05:38:33,451
horror movies made from the 80s

3525
05:38:33,475 --> 05:38:35,382
that we've all grown to love.

3526
05:38:35,406 --> 05:38:37,606
"In Search of
Darkness", you rock.

3527
05:38:40,648 --> 05:38:42,486
The "In Search of
Darkness" documentaries

3528
05:38:42,510 --> 05:38:44,727
have allowed me to
relive, year by year,

3529
05:38:44,751 --> 05:38:47,072
a truly golden age
in horror cinema.

3530
05:38:47,096 --> 05:38:49,038
In the 80s, we had
directors like Carpenter,

3531
05:38:49,062 --> 05:38:51,624
Romero, and Cronenberg in
the peak of their career.

3532
05:38:51,648 --> 05:38:53,831
We had a new generation of
practical special effects

3533
05:38:53,855 --> 05:38:56,693
in horror cinema, and
video stores coming out

3534
05:38:56,717 --> 05:38:58,451
with a new horror
title every week.

3535
05:38:58,475 --> 05:39:00,382
The fact that we're still
talking about all these films

3536
05:39:00,406 --> 05:39:02,658
over 30 years later
just shows how durable

3537
05:39:02,682 --> 05:39:04,244
the horror genre is.

3538
05:39:04,268 --> 05:39:06,717
So please, keep those
documentaries coming.

3539
05:39:11,848 --> 05:39:13,065
Hi.

3540
05:39:13,089 --> 05:39:14,582
First of all, I
want to thank you

3541
05:39:14,606 --> 05:39:16,893
for including us
fans in so many ways,

3542
05:39:16,917 --> 05:39:18,893
and for the journey
you've been taking us

3543
05:39:18,917 --> 05:39:21,582
for the three "In Search
of Darkness" documentaries.

3544
05:39:21,606 --> 05:39:24,272
I love 80s horror so much
because of the style,

3545
05:39:24,296 --> 05:39:27,134
the creativity, and the
passion for each of the films.

3546
05:39:27,158 --> 05:39:29,617
But the most important
part for me is

3547
05:39:29,641 --> 05:39:32,548
that every single film
from this horror decade,

3548
05:39:32,572 --> 05:39:33,789
the good and the bad,

3549
05:39:33,813 --> 05:39:36,400
are so great because
of the fun they make.

3550
05:39:40,503 --> 05:39:42,582
David, Robin.

3551
05:39:42,606 --> 05:39:44,686
You've created a monster.

3552
05:39:44,710 --> 05:39:47,376
A timeless milestone
for every horror fan.

3553
05:39:47,400 --> 05:39:49,479
And I'm extremely thankful
for being featured

3554
05:39:49,503 --> 05:39:53,031
in part one of the ultimate
horror documentary experience.

3555
05:39:53,055 --> 05:39:55,651
It made me feel
like I'm 15 again.

3556
05:39:55,675 --> 05:39:58,479
So for anyone who's "In
Search of Darkness",

3557
05:39:58,503 --> 05:40:01,055
stop searching,
because we found it.

3558
05:40:03,675 --> 05:40:05,824
80s horror is so important to me

3559
05:40:05,848 --> 05:40:09,582
because it gave me ideas
to draw when I was younger,

3560
05:40:09,606 --> 05:40:11,996
and as my drawing
ability progressed,

3561
05:40:12,020 --> 05:40:14,238
today I'm a tattoo artist,

3562
05:40:14,262 --> 05:40:17,513
so I guess you could say 80s
horror helped shape my life.

3563
05:40:17,537 --> 05:40:19,134
Plus being Canadian,
I want to give

3564
05:40:19,158 --> 05:40:21,031
a special thanks
to David Cronenberg

3565
05:40:21,055 --> 05:40:23,410
for all the
inspiration he gave me.

3566
05:40:23,434 --> 05:40:25,651
"In Search of
Darkness", honestly,

3567
05:40:25,675 --> 05:40:28,376
greatest documentary
I have ever watched.

3568
05:40:28,400 --> 05:40:30,755
It brought me straight
back to some of the most

3569
05:40:30,779 --> 05:40:32,400
special times of my life.

3570
05:40:34,848 --> 05:40:36,996
As a kid in the
80s, I was constantly

3571
05:40:37,020 --> 05:40:39,686
in and out of hospitals.

3572
05:40:39,710 --> 05:40:42,376
Watching horror movies
and playing video games

3573
05:40:42,400 --> 05:40:43,572
was a release for me.

3574
05:40:44,744 --> 05:40:46,617
Basically, I'm the
kid on the box art,

3575
05:40:46,641 --> 05:40:48,400
and on the posters.

3576
05:40:49,748 --> 05:40:53,000
I'm so proud to be part
of this incredible journey

3577
05:40:53,024 --> 05:40:55,931
through 80s horror that is
the "In Search of Darkness"

3578
05:40:55,955 --> 05:41:00,610
trilogy, and I just had to
immortalize it on my body.

3579
05:41:05,782 --> 05:41:07,276
I love it, that we're done.

3580
05:41:07,300 --> 05:41:08,541
I love it.

3581
05:41:09,368 --> 05:41:10,368
Love it.

3582
05:41:13,096 --> 05:41:14,813
Enough is never enough

3583
05:41:17,062 --> 05:41:18,262
Of <i>the Stuff</i>.

3584
05:41:20,924 --> 05:41:21,924
Mmh.