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KIM KARDASHIAN:
Previously on The Kardashians...

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- We are over budget, over time.

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KHLOÉ KARDASHIAN:
I feel like no matter where I turn,

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there's just stress after stress.

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Is Vegas on track?
- Nothing's on track.

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- Which is, obviously, adulting.

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- Do you not have any joy?

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- Yeah, when I see my kids.

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- You know, everything that's
happened with my mom, like,

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I needed someone that could help me
through this and you answered the call.

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CICI BUSSEY:
Is he driving you crazy?

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- I mean, I've survived this long.

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- Yeah, yeah.
[Khloé laughs]

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- How are you, Kim?
- I'm good, how are you?

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- I just love helping people
and helping to slowly change the system.

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It's something that I just feel
like I have to do in this lifetime.

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And I'll never stop doing that.

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- You see somethin' that's wrong
and you says, "I can't accept it,"

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I've gotta say something.
- Yeah.

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- That's what our
justice system is all about.

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- Well, I'm here to say something, so...
- That's good.

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[indistinct group chatter]

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- What was my dad not doing
that made you wanna look elsewhere?

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- I thought that the grass
was greener somewhere else.

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That's my life's biggest regret.

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KHLOÉ:
Oh, where you, where you going?

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You're gonna swim here?

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- We are in Palm Springs,
California, Easter weekend.

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We come here every year.

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Every kid, every sibling.

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The Easter egg hunts,
the bunnies, just everything.

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We get all this quality
time with all the kids.

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- We are... just Easter Bunny'ing it up.

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♪

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KIM:
Hey, guys.

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- Guys? It's just me.

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- Hi.
[Khloé laughs]

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- What are you doing?

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KHLOÉ:
Just hangin' out.

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- I feel like I've been
on the road nonstop.

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ALLISON STATTER:
Soccer moms for the win!

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KIM:
I was just in London.

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Oh, my gosh.
Who's excited?

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KIDS:
Me!

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KIM:
Paris.

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We are on the pitch
at the PSG game. This is crazy.

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And I snuck a trip to Japan
in between all of this.

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We're just gonna end our spring break
with even more memories in Palm Springs.

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- Hi, Kourt.
- Hi.

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KIM: Reigny. Saint went
to go play soccer at the park.

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- How the heck are ya? Um...

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- Everything's all good.

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I mean, we're here.

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KOURTNEY KARDASHIAN BARKER:
Yep.

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- Knowing that the goal was, like,
not about who's right or wrong,

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just, like, moving past it
and getting to a better place.

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And then once we were
through the edit, I feel like it was--

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- Like, we can breathe. Okay.
- We can move on.

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- We can be cool.

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- Know that everything's okay.
- Yeah.

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Nothing really hap--
Like, we didn't have a talk,

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like, nothing even really happened,

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'cause I think we're
just all kinda the same

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where we just don't wanna
have a deep talk about it.

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We just wanna move on.

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Just sweep it under the rug.
[Kourtney laughs]

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- Yep.
KOURTNEY: Mm-hmm.

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- Sweep, sweep.

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PRODUCER:
Aww.

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- Hey.
KIM: Hi.

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KRIS JENNER:
Oh, somebody looks cute.

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KHLOÉ/KRIS: Wow.
[kiss smacks]

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[indistinct whispering]

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- Um...

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KRIS: Wow.
- Were you guys talking?

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- It's like the kissing bunny is here.
KYLIE JENNER: Were you guys talking

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about me or something?
Like, why are you so quiet now?

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- We were talking about you.
- Yeah, we were.

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Penelope... I wanna take you to a farm

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and go see all of her horses and animals.

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What do you think?
P, do you wanna come?

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PENELOPE DISICK [softly]: Yes.
- Okay. I got [laughs] one taker.

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- North will go.
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Life is so crazy right now,

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but I really wanna focus on spending
more time with my grandchildren,

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because that really does make me so happy.

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They have a whole
beautiful equestrian center.

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I think I get so distracted
and so busy with other things

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that I really wanna make it a point

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to plan some fun
activities for the grandkids.

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KIM: Can you ever have a day
with some grandkids without a nanny?

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KRIS: Yes.
[Kim laughs]

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- Well, she's never had all the kids
before at one time without help.

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KRIS: P, are you hungry?
There's food over there.

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- But I know she's raised
all of us so I know she can do it.

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- Do you guys wanna sit at the table?
- Yeah.

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- But it's just hard
to release control of that.

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- What's up with your lot here?

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We walked by it this morning and...
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- ...what are you doing with that lot?
- Listen, I may sell it...

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KOURTNEY: Yeah.
- ...to get out of a couple things.

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So, Tristan and I bought two lots together
in Palm Springs when we were together.

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Here we are, many moons later,
and we still own these lots together.

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And I definitely think that

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Tristan won't give up his end of the lot.

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I don't even wanna build.
KOURTNEY: Yeah.

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- Hopefully, time will get the best of him
and he'll sell me the other half.

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- Oh, my God, you guys,
I've never even told you.

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KRIS: What?
KIM: You know.

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- Yeah, you're gonna do The Bachelorette.

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- Yeah. So, I decided
I'm gonna do a TV show,

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Ryan Murphy's show,
called American Horror Story.

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KHLOÉ:
That's amazing.

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KRIS: Isn't that crazy?
- That's amazing.

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- Amazing.

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- Yeah.
- It came about because

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we were having dinner at my house.
KIM: Mm-hmm.

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- And we started talking--
- And I wasn't even gonna come.

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- I know.
- And you were like, "Just come,

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Ryan Murphy--"
- Ryan was coming over for dinner

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with his husband.

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We started chatting at dinner.

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- And then he kept on saying,
"I really want you to do

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a American Horror Story."

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- He wrote a part for her.

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KIM: Mm-hmm.
- Just for Kim.

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Listen. What happened
to my part, Ryan? Huh?

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- And he did the OJ show,
which I thought was so fascinating.

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Remember that OJ series?

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- Yeah, where Ross played Dad.
KIM: Uh-huh.

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I am very nervous.

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- You're gonna be so great.
- 'Cause I'm just, like, not an actress,

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you know?
KRIS: Yeah, but you really are.

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- I think it's just fun
to try something new.

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I really just want new energy.
- Oh, my God. It's amazing.

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- I said every year I was gonna try to do
something that was a challenge, work-wise.

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KYLIE: Mm-hmm.
- I'm almost done with school.

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I just finished two more classes.

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I have, like, three or four more left.

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I can knock 'em out in, like, 10 months,

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and then just prepare for the Bar.
KHLOÉ: Cannot wait for you
to be done with that.

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KIM:
That'll free up half of my day.

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- I just feel like Kim can tell me
tomorrow she's running for presidency

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and I'm like,
"Alright, girl, do your thing."

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For Kim, it's just-- I-- It's another day.

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- I'm ready for a nap.

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- Yeah.

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I know I'm supposed to slow down,

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but I can't 'cause this is,
like, a huge production.

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- No.

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I'm just excited...
- Have the title.

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- ...to get outta Calabasas.

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KRIS: You're never in Calabasas.
- What do you mean?

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- You're always outta town.
- Mom thinks you are gone all the time.

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KRIS:
I think you're living your life.

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I just don't think that
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[laughs]
"I need to get outta Calabasas."

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KIM: Oh, my God, I had
the hardest week with the kids.

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It was, like, comical
if you think about it.

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- Really?

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- Kourtney's definitely the one
that I go to for my mom advice

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and, like, I think her and I
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when it comes to parenting stuff.

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- I think we also have older kids.
- She's had more experience. Yeah.

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- And so, we go through more similar...

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- Yeah.
- ...things.

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- No matter what,
like, she'd drop anything

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for us to have, like, parenting advice.

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I don't care what
kinda fight we're in, like,

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she knows the kinda shit
that I'd be going through.

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I can understand the kinda shit
that she'd be going through.

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And that's how
our relationship's always been.

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North was throwing a fit,
trying to get her in the car.

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It's so draining for me,
after, like, an hour, hour and a half.

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- Yeah.
- That I literally was in the car

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and I was, like, driving
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and I was, like, hysterically crying,

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but Chi was right behind me,
so she couldn't see that I was crying,

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but I was, like, driving and I was like...
- Oh, my God.

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- ...[pants]
"I just gotta get to school."

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So, w-we're in the car
and Chi's like, "Mom, I have to go potty."

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But we were on that long strip to where

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there's, like, nowhere to pull over.
- Oh, my God.

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- I didn't have a cup.
I didn't have anything.

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- Couldn't she just squat in--
on the side of the road?

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- It was pouring rain.

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- Oh, it was raining.
- Is she gonna, like,

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pee outside in the rain?
- Yeah.

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- Like, and I'm just like--

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And she's gonna cry,
and she's so clingy, and she holds my leg.

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Like, it's just-- it depends on the day.
- Yeah.

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- And then nothing was good enough.

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I took Saint on his trip.
He was so excited.

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'cause she didn't get an alone trip.

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"You always get alone trips."

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- But what if you don't make it so extreme

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and do, like, a private dinner
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Go on a walk, go on a hike, go to tea.
- Yeah.

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- Even if you spend, like--

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I'll do with Reign,
like, where we're just sitting

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and, like, talking and, like,
have, like, real focus attention.

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- Yeah, I need to do that.

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- It doesn't have to be, like,

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a crazy thing, you know?
- Yeah.

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- I think I have a more
gentle approach with my kids.

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I find, with my kids, that coming from

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a more loving approach works best.

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- And I feel that way,
but... with a little bit

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of tough love in there, too,
and a little bit of frazzled,

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"Shit! What the [bleep] is going on?!
Get the [bleep] over here!"

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[Kourtney laughs]
- Per-- Like, energy also.

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It's like, "Go to bed!"

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I'd be like, "It's [bleep] 10 o'clock
and you're still up?! Go to bed!"

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Like, you're driving me crazy, ya know?

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So, I definitely think
we're different, like, in that way.

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- Yes.
- Ya know?

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- Totally.
- Like, I get frazzled.

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And then North,
she'll go to her dad's.

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She'll be like, "Dad is the best.
He has it all figured out.

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"He doesn't have a nanny,
he doesn't have a chef,

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he doesn't have security,
he lives in an apartment."

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And she'll start crying.
"Why don't you have an apartment?

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I can't believe
we don't have an apartment."

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- They do that at Scott's, too.
Like, "Dad has the best house.

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"Your house sucks.
He has the best house.

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It's not super big.
The vibe's better."

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I feel like everything falls on

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the parent that's,
like, more involved.

234
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- Yeah. But, like, we make our own food.

235
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"That's amazing that you
make ramen," you know?

236
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- Mm-hmm.
- Like, "Great," you know?

237
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- That you boil water
and pour it onto some noodles.

238
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- Yeah.
- I do make pancakes every morning,

239
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and that has been a game-changer.

240
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They love it 'cause we're sitting
at the table and they're happier.

241
00:10:49,983 --> 00:10:52,903
- Yeah. Except for one wants
a smoothie, one wants this,

242
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one wants that.
- So, I say, like, one of you--

243
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They rotate, like, choosing breakfast.

244
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- But, like, oh, my God,
I just need a day.

245
00:11:03,247 --> 00:11:04,081
- Kim.
- Me.

246
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PRODUCER:
In terms of being a mom?

247
00:11:04,915 --> 00:11:05,874
- Kim.
- Me.

248
00:11:06,250 --> 00:11:07,459
For sure.

249
00:11:08,001 --> 00:11:11,088
I mean, she gets worked up.

250
00:11:11,088 --> 00:11:14,216
Like, when she gets frazzled,
where she's just like--

251
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- Yeah. Teeth clenched, yeah.
- "Get over here, Kimberly." Ya know?

252
00:11:17,094 --> 00:11:22,891
"Get over here now. Get over here now."
- Yeah... yeah.

253
00:11:22,891 --> 00:11:24,768
- Ya know, and then
you'd be like, "Ah, okay!"

254
00:11:24,768 --> 00:11:26,520
Ya know, "Get off my arm!"

255
00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,313
Ya know? And I can see--

256
00:11:28,313 --> 00:11:32,484
I don't, I don't grab the arm,
but, boy, do I want to.

257
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For sure the same energy as my mom.
- And I used to see it in myself

258
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until I did the work.

259
00:11:39,825 --> 00:11:42,619
- I'm, like, literally dozing.

260
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- Take a nap.

261
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- I think I will for, like, 30 minutes.

262
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- Take one here if you don't want
[laughs] any, any of your kids around.

263
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♪ upbeat music playing ♪

264
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♪

265
00:12:00,220 --> 00:12:01,847
[phone ringing]

266
00:12:02,472 --> 00:12:03,473
- Hi.

267
00:12:04,141 --> 00:12:08,228
Hi, guys.
Oh, Dream is here?

268
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KHLOÉ [over phone]:
Dream's with me.

269
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- We're home at my house.

270
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KHLOÉ: Do we have room for Penelope?
Always, right?

271
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TRUE THOMPSON [over phone]: Yeah.
KOURTNEY: P, Koko's gonna come

272
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grab you on the golf cart!

273
00:12:20,407 --> 00:12:22,492
Tristan's with them.
Is that okay?

274
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KOURTNEY:
Okay. I feel like she gets it from me.

275
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I told her, like, the first day of school,
I was, like, so triggered by him.

276
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I don't know why.
And then I was like--

277
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- Right. I know why, but I was like,

278
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I feel like we all, like,
brush it off and are fine.

279
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And then I was just, like, so triggered

280
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and I was like,
"I just can't do it anymore."

281
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Like, I just can't--

282
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Tristan has made horrible

283
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decisions and choices,
ya know, with my sister.

284
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There's times when I'm so triggered
by him I can't be around him.

285
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And then there's times
when I just let it go

286
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because we just want harmony

287
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and, ya know, he's the father
of my niece and nephew.

288
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- Hello!
KOURTNEY: Hi.

289
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- Wow. No, that view is pretty special.
KOURTNEY: Yeah.

290
00:13:13,335 --> 00:13:14,169
- It's my first time here.

291
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I haven't even seen it.
KOURTNEY: Oh, really?

292
00:13:15,003 --> 00:13:16,213
- Yeah.
KOURTNEY: Oh, do you want a tour?

293
00:13:16,213 --> 00:13:18,423
- Yeah, let's do a tour please. Hello.
- So, this is the casita.

294
00:13:18,423 --> 00:13:19,424
- Happy Good Friday.
- Hi.

295
00:13:19,424 --> 00:13:20,634
Hi, happy Good Friday.
TRISTAN THOMPSON: P, what's up?

296
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- Hi. What?
- Hey!

297
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[overlapping chatter]

298
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KHLOÉ: I'm really proud
of myself for where me and Tristan are

299
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and how I am able to allow him
to be the father he wants to be.

300
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But where I am at with Tristan

301
00:13:35,691 --> 00:13:38,944
has nothing to do with what
I expect my family members to do.

302
00:13:38,944 --> 00:13:43,031
If Penelope has her feelings
about Tristan, rightfully so.

303
00:13:43,031 --> 00:13:44,157
And good for you, girl.

304
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KOURTNEY:
And that's Penelope's room.

305
00:13:45,701 --> 00:13:48,537
The second master.
- Oh, yeah!

306
00:13:48,537 --> 00:13:50,622
'Cause she's the second
queen of the castle.

307
00:13:50,622 --> 00:13:54,751
I want Penelope to have these feelings
and I don't want to talk her out of them

308
00:13:54,751 --> 00:13:57,754
because I don't want
this behavior to be something

309
00:13:57,754 --> 00:14:01,049
that I'm validating or I'm justifying.

310
00:14:01,049 --> 00:14:05,596
I want her to know that how
she's feeling is the right way to feel.

311
00:14:05,596 --> 00:14:08,724
We should not accept
someone treating us like this.

312
00:14:08,724 --> 00:14:10,893
- So, the question is,

313
00:14:10,893 --> 00:14:14,563
do you do the Kylie house
where it's unplugged from the world

314
00:14:14,563 --> 00:14:17,065
and like, "I'm done with LA,"
and this is it?

315
00:14:17,065 --> 00:14:19,735
Or you do more like what Kourt does.
There's two ways to look at it.

316
00:14:20,777 --> 00:14:22,696
- Like, who's getting the lots?

317
00:14:22,696 --> 00:14:25,991
♪

318
00:14:26,992 --> 00:14:29,369
KHLOÉ: Or we could
just split our lots back in two

319
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and you can have one and I could have one,

320
00:14:30,996 --> 00:14:33,123
but then we're still next to each other.

321
00:14:33,123 --> 00:14:35,584
- In fact, it makes no point.
You might as well just-- ya know?

322
00:14:35,584 --> 00:14:38,170
- They were twice the price.
- Tristan's hoping I'm gonna forget.

323
00:14:38,170 --> 00:14:41,298
- Never forget.
We continue to... ya know?

324
00:14:41,298 --> 00:14:43,759
KOURTNEY: Work on yourself.
- Work on yourself and, you know,

325
00:14:43,759 --> 00:14:46,512
keep chippin' away.
- Wish I could work on forgetting things.

326
00:14:46,512 --> 00:14:47,721
[laughs]
I just can't anymore.

327
00:14:47,721 --> 00:14:49,139
- Let time figure it out.
KOURTNEY: But we have, like I said,

328
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like, I looked, I looked at every lot.
- "Let time figure it out." Tristan.

329
00:14:52,100 --> 00:14:56,980
Right now he is convinced
that we are going to build this house.

330
00:14:56,980 --> 00:14:59,525
And... I don't know if he thinks

331
00:14:59,525 --> 00:15:02,361
that we're gonna do this,
like, together as in a couple.

332
00:15:02,361 --> 00:15:04,738
Or we're just doing this
and we're gonna, like, have a co-op

333
00:15:04,738 --> 00:15:08,742
and we're just gonna, like, share
this... home that we built together.

334
00:15:08,742 --> 00:15:11,912
Let's go back home and take showers.
Who's with me?

335
00:15:11,912 --> 00:15:13,539
REIGN DISICK: Me.
- 'Kay.

336
00:15:14,039 --> 00:15:17,292
Yeah, I don't know where his head is at,
but one of us will break, eventually.

337
00:15:17,292 --> 00:15:19,336
Either I'll sell it to him
or [laughs] he'll sell it to me.

338
00:15:19,336 --> 00:15:20,879
So, we'll figure it out.

339
00:15:20,879 --> 00:15:21,880
KOURTNEY:
Hi.

340
00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:26,468
Um, Tristan, later I wanna hear
your plan about, uh, Khloé forgetting.

341
00:15:26,468 --> 00:15:32,307
I have thoughts on how
you could make it stay intact.

342
00:15:32,766 --> 00:15:35,769
- Okay... Alright, guys.

343
00:15:36,311 --> 00:15:38,981
♪ upbeat music playing ♪

344
00:15:41,358 --> 00:15:44,653
- ♪ Whacked out, hangin' out,
cool for the summer ♪

345
00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,908
♪ On the hood of your car
like the city kids do ♪

346
00:15:51,410 --> 00:15:54,746
♪ We'll be wrapped up,
jacked up, stuck with each other ♪

347
00:16:01,170 --> 00:16:04,673
- Heck no.
Someone is late!

348
00:16:04,673 --> 00:16:07,926
- Somebody didn't tell me
that you were back from the store.

349
00:16:07,926 --> 00:16:10,387
After talking to Kourtney,
she really encouraged me

350
00:16:10,387 --> 00:16:14,516
to do small things with my kids,
like one-on-one cooking stuff.

351
00:16:14,516 --> 00:16:16,310
Let me season this chicken.

352
00:16:16,310 --> 00:16:18,770
Whatever the kids wanna do,
and North loves to cook.

353
00:16:18,770 --> 00:16:20,856
Tell them the movies
you made me watch last night.

354
00:16:20,856 --> 00:16:23,066
Tell 'em what you're into these days.
- We watched Tupac.

355
00:16:23,066 --> 00:16:25,652
Everyone thinks
I don't know Tupac, but I do.

356
00:16:25,652 --> 00:16:29,907
- She loves Tupac.
Said, "Same, girl, same."

357
00:16:29,907 --> 00:16:31,742
- I'm making the cucumber rolls.

358
00:16:34,203 --> 00:16:38,457
You know I'm a ambidextrous.
I could do it with both hands.

359
00:16:39,458 --> 00:16:42,961
- Oh, wow.
You should FaceTime Auntie Kendall.

360
00:16:42,961 --> 00:16:44,421
Don't cut your hand.

361
00:16:44,671 --> 00:16:50,093
- So first, you have to cut it straightly.
- Mm-hmm.

362
00:16:50,093 --> 00:16:54,681
North is really special,
and smart, and creative.

363
00:16:54,681 --> 00:16:55,933
A little crosshatching.

364
00:16:55,933 --> 00:16:58,185
And definitely beats to her own drum.

365
00:16:58,185 --> 00:16:59,061
[gasps]

366
00:16:59,061 --> 00:17:02,314
- Like, her personality
is really, really silly.

367
00:17:02,314 --> 00:17:04,733
- Ew, this cucumber nasty.

368
00:17:04,733 --> 00:17:06,068
- I go like that.

369
00:17:07,694 --> 00:17:09,738
- Wait, that's zucchini.

370
00:17:09,738 --> 00:17:12,115
- Hm? This is a zucchini?
- That's zu--

371
00:17:12,115 --> 00:17:14,993
- Oh, they, [sighs]
they won't know the difference.

372
00:17:14,993 --> 00:17:16,286
Should we call the chef in?

373
00:17:16,620 --> 00:17:19,331
- No, we're doing this on our own.

374
00:17:19,331 --> 00:17:21,083
- I'm gonna stick to what I know.

375
00:17:23,877 --> 00:17:26,839
- My second time rolling sushi.

376
00:17:26,839 --> 00:17:29,633
- It's so interesting
because her temperament as a child

377
00:17:29,633 --> 00:17:31,426
is, like, the same now.

378
00:17:31,426 --> 00:17:34,888
You definitely just
come out your own person.

379
00:17:34,888 --> 00:17:36,807
- Guys, a little secret.

380
00:17:36,807 --> 00:17:40,352
- Oh, you lick it as you go.
You think that's sanitary?

381
00:17:40,352 --> 00:17:43,981
Kourtney always says North
is my lesson on this planet.

382
00:17:45,983 --> 00:17:50,112
- It means that I'm supposed
to learn even more patience.

383
00:17:50,112 --> 00:17:51,613
She teaches me patience.

384
00:17:51,613 --> 00:17:52,573
[North humming]

385
00:17:52,573 --> 00:17:55,784
- She has taught me a lot about life.

386
00:17:55,784 --> 00:17:58,495
Come here.
Show me your shirt.

387
00:18:01,290 --> 00:18:03,292
Oh, good, we got it to work.

388
00:18:03,834 --> 00:18:06,044
Northy, I'm going to a prison soon.

389
00:18:08,172 --> 00:18:10,174
Can you eat it like that?

390
00:18:12,718 --> 00:18:15,888
- No. You want some?
- No thanks.

391
00:18:16,930 --> 00:18:18,891
You're just gonna eat
an onion like an apple.

392
00:18:18,891 --> 00:18:24,730
This is what she does, people.
She eats veggies like... like apples.

393
00:18:24,730 --> 00:18:26,982
I love spending this time
with North right now

394
00:18:26,982 --> 00:18:31,528
just because I'm about to go
to Pelican Bay and visit a prison there.

395
00:18:31,528 --> 00:18:34,156
And anytime I can talk
to her about what I do

396
00:18:34,156 --> 00:18:37,409
and why I do it is really important to me.

397
00:18:39,536 --> 00:18:42,164
- What does she do?
PRODUCER: The prison work.

398
00:18:42,164 --> 00:18:43,957
KIM: You help someone
and then they pay it forward

399
00:18:43,957 --> 00:18:47,169
and then they do the same thing.
- Uh, I think it's good.

400
00:18:47,169 --> 00:18:49,796
- It's just really important
for my kids, all of them,

401
00:18:49,796 --> 00:18:54,510
to see what it's like to help someone else
and to put someone else first.

402
00:18:54,510 --> 00:18:57,304
And there's no better way through example.

403
00:18:57,304 --> 00:19:00,807
- Michael Jackson, hee-hee!
[kisses]

404
00:19:00,807 --> 00:19:04,019
- Oh, my gosh, this onion breath
is gonna make me cry.

405
00:19:04,019 --> 00:19:05,938
[North exhales, laughs]
- No, it's so strong.

406
00:19:05,938 --> 00:19:08,148
Oh, my gosh,
my eyes are literally tearing.

407
00:19:08,148 --> 00:19:10,150
How do you not tear?

408
00:19:10,817 --> 00:19:12,903
We're the best chefs.

409
00:19:12,903 --> 00:19:16,073
♪ upbeat music playing ♪

410
00:19:20,869 --> 00:19:21,870
PERSON:
Great.

411
00:19:21,870 --> 00:19:24,039
KRIS:
Alright, I'm gonna take the kids.

412
00:19:24,039 --> 00:19:25,874
Ladies!

413
00:19:27,292 --> 00:19:30,045
Where's my little ladies?

414
00:19:30,045 --> 00:19:33,924
Hi! Are you ready to go on an adventure?

415
00:19:33,924 --> 00:19:37,094
KID: Yeah.
- Oh, my God, hi, guys!

416
00:19:37,094 --> 00:19:40,597
I was thinking of something to do
with the kids because school's out,

417
00:19:40,597 --> 00:19:45,936
and what better way to, ya know,
spend a day than on the ranch?

418
00:19:46,311 --> 00:19:52,359
Okay, let's go. Little ladies,
we're gonna go to the elevator.

419
00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,779
Okay, we're gonna have fun, guys.

420
00:19:55,779 --> 00:19:58,824
♪

421
00:19:58,824 --> 00:20:02,369
KHLOÉ:
My mom is taking True and Stormi alone

422
00:20:02,369 --> 00:20:05,706
and... I'm going because--

423
00:20:05,706 --> 00:20:09,251
Well, I'm following secretly
because my mom won't let me go.

424
00:20:09,251 --> 00:20:10,669
TRUE:
My mommy's car!

425
00:20:10,669 --> 00:20:12,671
KRIS: No, it's just her car.
KHLOÉ: Hi!

426
00:20:12,671 --> 00:20:14,381
- No, it's mommy!
KRIS: Oh, it is?

427
00:20:14,381 --> 00:20:16,425
- I am here.
- Oh!

428
00:20:16,425 --> 00:20:18,427
- Mama!
- I c-- I came to say goodbye.

429
00:20:18,427 --> 00:20:19,928
- Mama!
- Hi!

430
00:20:19,928 --> 00:20:22,431
Hi, Storm.
- We were doing just fine.

431
00:20:22,431 --> 00:20:24,433
TRUE: Mama.
- Hi.

432
00:20:24,433 --> 00:20:26,268
Aww.
TRUE: Mama.

433
00:20:27,686 --> 00:20:29,313
- My girls.
- Alright, popsicles.

434
00:20:29,313 --> 00:20:31,481
Let's get in the car.

435
00:20:31,481 --> 00:20:33,150
KHLOÉ:
No, I'm not.

436
00:20:33,150 --> 00:20:35,068
- Okay, everybody get in their seat.
KHLOÉ: I love you guys.

437
00:20:35,068 --> 00:20:37,112
Have so much fun!

438
00:20:37,112 --> 00:20:40,449
Love you. Mean it.
- Okay, bye, guys.

439
00:20:41,700 --> 00:20:45,037
♪ Energy by Luna + Yury & CAL!CO playing ♪

440
00:20:45,913 --> 00:20:47,956
- ♪ Far as you can see that's my energy ♪

441
00:20:47,956 --> 00:20:50,250
♪ That's that energy, that's that energy ♪

442
00:20:50,250 --> 00:20:51,919
♪ Like this is the best of the best ♪

443
00:20:51,919 --> 00:20:52,836
♪ And forget all the rest ♪

444
00:20:52,836 --> 00:20:54,588
♪ Come and get what you... ♪

445
00:20:54,588 --> 00:20:58,383
KRIS: I think it's wild
that I invited 12 grandchildren

446
00:20:58,383 --> 00:20:59,927
and I got two.

447
00:20:59,927 --> 00:21:01,094
- ♪ Hey ♪

448
00:21:01,094 --> 00:21:03,096
♪ Now you have the floor,
it's in your control ♪

449
00:21:03,096 --> 00:21:05,265
♪ Bring out the iconic ♪

450
00:21:05,724 --> 00:21:09,811
- Okay, so here's some snacks,
animal crackers,

451
00:21:09,811 --> 00:21:12,397
'cause we're gonna go see the animals.

452
00:21:12,397 --> 00:21:15,317
Get it?
[forced laughter] No?

453
00:21:16,652 --> 00:21:18,654
[phone ringing]

454
00:21:18,654 --> 00:21:20,155
KRIS [over phone]:
Hello.

455
00:21:20,155 --> 00:21:21,365
KHLOÉ:
How's it going?

456
00:21:21,365 --> 00:21:23,367
- We're fine.
You don't have to worry.

457
00:21:23,367 --> 00:21:24,201
- Yeah.

458
00:21:24,201 --> 00:21:28,997
- We were playing
a slime game on True's iPad.

459
00:21:28,997 --> 00:21:30,499
[Khloé chuckles]
TRUE [over phone]: That's Stormi.

460
00:21:30,499 --> 00:21:32,042
- Oh, Stormi, sorry.
KHLOÉ [over phone]: You know you could

461
00:21:32,042 --> 00:21:34,503
take their iPads away and play--

462
00:21:34,503 --> 00:21:36,421
- Oh, that would make me popular.

463
00:21:36,421 --> 00:21:38,841
KHLOÉ: You could play I Spy.
- Okay, I gotta go.

464
00:21:38,841 --> 00:21:41,552
KHLOÉ: Or tell them to do--
Or tell them the animal game.

465
00:21:41,552 --> 00:21:43,554
KRIS [over phone]:
Okay, let's play the animals game.

466
00:21:43,554 --> 00:21:45,180
Bye, Khloé.
KHLOÉ [over phone]: 'Kay, b--

467
00:21:45,180 --> 00:21:48,141
- Okay, let's play I Spy.
- No.

468
00:21:48,141 --> 00:21:49,560
♪

469
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,478
KRIS:
There are so many snacks in here.

470
00:21:51,478 --> 00:21:54,731
I don't know where
your mother thought we were going.

471
00:21:54,731 --> 00:21:58,485
We could go through
a snowstorm with all this food.

472
00:21:58,485 --> 00:22:00,320
- Hey, you said my name, Lovey.

473
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,782
- Who said your name?
- You. Said Storm.

474
00:22:03,782 --> 00:22:05,325
- Storm.

475
00:22:06,243 --> 00:22:07,953
Look at the purple flowers.

476
00:22:07,953 --> 00:22:10,622
Look, right there. Right there.
- I see them out my window.

477
00:22:10,622 --> 00:22:14,334
- My girlfriend has a farm that I adore

478
00:22:14,334 --> 00:22:16,670
and I've always wanted
to bring my grandkids

479
00:22:16,670 --> 00:22:18,630
for a little trip to her petting zoo.

480
00:22:18,630 --> 00:22:20,674
TRUE:
I know how to speak cat.

481
00:22:20,674 --> 00:22:22,759
- Whoa, guys.
- Meow.

482
00:22:22,759 --> 00:22:24,720
I know how to do a Japanese cat.

483
00:22:26,430 --> 00:22:29,474
- [laughs]
How cool is this?

484
00:22:29,474 --> 00:22:31,101
Oh, look at the donkey.

485
00:22:31,935 --> 00:22:33,937
Look at all the goats right there.

486
00:22:33,937 --> 00:22:35,731
Hi, Miguel!
MIGUEL: Welcome.

487
00:22:35,731 --> 00:22:36,565
KRIS:
Thank you.

488
00:22:36,565 --> 00:22:40,527
- We have some cookies if you wants
to give cookies to the hor-- mini horses.

489
00:22:40,527 --> 00:22:42,738
KRIS:
Do you wanna give the horses some cookies?

490
00:22:42,738 --> 00:22:43,655
STORMI WEBSTER: Yeah.
- Okay.

491
00:22:43,655 --> 00:22:45,199
MIGUEL: I'll show you how to do it.
You wanna try?

492
00:22:45,199 --> 00:22:46,617
KRIS: Yeah.
MIGUEL: Come on in.

493
00:22:46,617 --> 00:22:48,368
- Come on, guys.
MIGUEL: They're really friendly,

494
00:22:48,368 --> 00:22:50,579
don't be afraid, okay?
KRIS: Oh.

495
00:22:50,579 --> 00:22:52,164
TRUE:
Lovey, I don't wanna do it.

496
00:22:52,164 --> 00:22:54,082
KRIS:
You don't have to. I can do it.

497
00:22:54,082 --> 00:22:55,709
MIGUEL:
Yeah, just do it like that.

498
00:22:55,709 --> 00:22:56,793
- I'll give him one.
MIGUEL: Okay.

499
00:22:56,793 --> 00:22:59,671
- Okay.
- See? It's eating.

500
00:22:59,671 --> 00:23:00,506
- He tickles.

501
00:23:00,506 --> 00:23:04,092
♪ upbeat music playing ♪

502
00:23:04,676 --> 00:23:08,514
- Listen, I know my mom,
obviously, birthed six kids,

503
00:23:08,514 --> 00:23:11,517
but it's been a minute
and I can't handle this stress.

504
00:23:11,517 --> 00:23:14,603
And trust me, my mom does not
want me to be calling her nonstop.

505
00:23:14,603 --> 00:23:15,854
So I'm just gonna go.

506
00:23:15,854 --> 00:23:16,772
- Horse is out!

507
00:23:16,772 --> 00:23:18,148
KRIS: A horse is out?
MIGUEL: I'll get it.

508
00:23:18,148 --> 00:23:19,149
[Stormi screams]
KRIS: Uh-oh.

509
00:23:19,149 --> 00:23:24,363
- And my mom, God bless her,
she's easily distracted.

510
00:23:24,363 --> 00:23:26,490
I just don't know.
If there's a huge horse

511
00:23:26,490 --> 00:23:28,992
stampeding through,
will she grab my kid?

512
00:23:28,992 --> 00:23:30,953
I don't know, I'm just
thinking all these thoughts.

513
00:23:30,953 --> 00:23:34,581
- Come on. Come on, ladies.
Stormi, let's go.

514
00:23:36,458 --> 00:23:39,795
- Popsicles?
They were in the car the whole time?

515
00:23:39,795 --> 00:23:41,296
- It tastes good.

516
00:23:41,296 --> 00:23:43,924
♪

517
00:23:47,803 --> 00:23:52,307
- Well, I did take True to Pre-K
and then I just stayed.

518
00:23:52,307 --> 00:23:56,562
So, I didn't follow anyone.
I just stayed on campus.

519
00:23:56,562 --> 00:23:58,438
- Do you wanna get on the pony, Stormi?

520
00:23:58,438 --> 00:23:59,398
STORMI: Yeah.
- Okay.

521
00:23:59,398 --> 00:24:01,567
MIGUEL: Yay.
[Kris/Stormi laugh]

522
00:24:01,567 --> 00:24:02,818
KRIS:
Alright, everybody.

523
00:24:03,485 --> 00:24:04,903
You can have one.

524
00:24:04,903 --> 00:24:07,072
You have a lot of friends here, Stormi.

525
00:24:07,072 --> 00:24:10,325
I get excited about cookies
too, don't you, Stormi?

526
00:24:10,325 --> 00:24:12,828
Look at this goat's eyes.
Come here, quick.

527
00:24:12,828 --> 00:24:13,954
- I wanna see.

528
00:24:13,954 --> 00:24:16,623
- This is great.
The kids are doing amazing.

529
00:24:16,623 --> 00:24:19,459
Look at their eyes.
Isn't that crazy?

530
00:24:19,459 --> 00:24:20,752
It's really fun.

531
00:24:20,752 --> 00:24:21,879
Let me take a photo.
- Can they see?

532
00:24:21,879 --> 00:24:23,672
KRIS: One, two--
I don't know, but see--

533
00:24:23,672 --> 00:24:26,592
Wait, Truzzel, Truzzel,
stand next to Stormi.

534
00:24:26,592 --> 00:24:28,635
TRUE: No!
KRIS: Oh, my God.

535
00:24:28,635 --> 00:24:31,263
♪

536
00:24:33,265 --> 00:24:34,183
Wait a minute.

537
00:24:36,810 --> 00:24:39,438
- Lovey. Lovey!
- Is that your mom?

538
00:24:43,692 --> 00:24:46,820
- Khloé's here?
Did you guys know Khloé was coming?

539
00:24:46,820 --> 00:24:47,654
For real?

540
00:24:47,654 --> 00:24:49,281
TRUE:
Mama!

541
00:24:49,531 --> 00:24:53,619
- And how sneaky. How sneaky.

542
00:24:54,828 --> 00:24:57,581
What are you doing here?
KHLOÉ: Hi, guys.

543
00:24:57,581 --> 00:25:00,083
Mom, I couldn't let you
have all the fun without me.

544
00:25:00,083 --> 00:25:02,419
TRUE: Mama, Mama!
- Does she not trust me or something?

545
00:25:02,419 --> 00:25:04,630
What's happening?
- Hi!

546
00:25:04,630 --> 00:25:06,548
Oh, my g--
KRIS: Like, we haven't seen each other

547
00:25:06,548 --> 00:25:08,383
in-in days.
- Are you okay?

548
00:25:08,383 --> 00:25:11,136
Are you guys okay?
KRIS: Yeah, they're just fine.

549
00:25:11,136 --> 00:25:12,971
What's wrong with you?
- Well, they don't look like it.

550
00:25:12,971 --> 00:25:14,598
Look at them.
- What's wrong?

551
00:25:14,598 --> 00:25:17,518
- Clinging to me. Are you okay?
- Clinging to you?

552
00:25:17,518 --> 00:25:19,811
- What'd you do to them?

553
00:25:19,811 --> 00:25:21,605
- Is this a joke?
[Stormi and True whimper]

554
00:25:21,605 --> 00:25:23,357
- What happened in that car?

555
00:25:23,357 --> 00:25:25,734
- Don't play into her.
KHLOÉ: Are you guys okay?

556
00:25:25,734 --> 00:25:29,363
- Khloé, you drove over to spy on me.
- Yeah.

557
00:25:29,363 --> 00:25:34,409
- She totally hijacks
my date with my grandkids.

558
00:25:34,409 --> 00:25:37,454
And this is Khloé, the life of the party.
- Hi.

559
00:25:37,454 --> 00:25:39,039
I have no shame in my game.

560
00:25:39,039 --> 00:25:41,083
I am here and I'm proud.
- Really?

561
00:25:42,501 --> 00:25:44,920
- She made True look at the animals.

562
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,713
- She made you do that?

563
00:25:46,713 --> 00:25:48,382
- Who wants to go to the horse barn?

564
00:25:48,382 --> 00:25:49,800
- No.
- No.

565
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,301
KHLOÉ: Huh?
- Oh, wow.

566
00:25:51,301 --> 00:25:52,219
Okay.

567
00:25:53,178 --> 00:25:56,849
- I'm not gonna go with Lovey.
I'm gonna stay with you.

568
00:25:56,849 --> 00:25:58,809
- You're gonna stay with me? Okay.
TRUE: I'm gonna stay with you.

569
00:25:58,809 --> 00:25:59,810
- Okay, girls.

570
00:25:59,810 --> 00:26:03,063
KRIS: Five minutes ago,
they didn't even know she existed.

571
00:26:03,063 --> 00:26:07,234
All they cared about was
the donkey and the ponies

572
00:26:07,234 --> 00:26:09,194
and the pigs and the goats.

573
00:26:09,194 --> 00:26:10,904
They didn't care about where mom was.

574
00:26:10,904 --> 00:26:12,239
- Mom, can I ride a horse?

575
00:26:12,239 --> 00:26:13,740
KRIS:
Let's go up to the horse stable.

576
00:26:13,740 --> 00:26:14,741
MIGUEL:
Yeah, of course.

577
00:26:14,741 --> 00:26:16,702
KRIS:
But if Khloé comes riding in,

578
00:26:16,702 --> 00:26:19,872
can't handle a little competition.

579
00:26:19,872 --> 00:26:21,665
- I don't like walking.
- Yeah, you should--

580
00:26:21,665 --> 00:26:23,333
- You don't like walking? Well--

581
00:26:23,333 --> 00:26:25,294
- Do you want me to carry you?

582
00:26:25,294 --> 00:26:26,920
Come on.
- Mom, they-- Mom, you can't carry her.

583
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,381
- Yeah, I can.
- You have a bad hip. Here.

584
00:26:29,381 --> 00:26:32,009
- Not anymore.
That's why it's titanium.

585
00:26:32,009 --> 00:26:34,761
[kids giggling]

586
00:26:34,761 --> 00:26:37,431
- Wow. Wow.

587
00:26:37,431 --> 00:26:40,684
W-- Just one day.
That's all I asked for.

588
00:26:41,643 --> 00:26:43,645
You're pretty strong, Koko.

589
00:26:44,062 --> 00:26:46,273
KHLOÉ:
I'm not sorry that I came.

590
00:26:46,273 --> 00:26:50,652
I'm very happy I did.
And I think the kids are, too. Calm down.

591
00:26:50,652 --> 00:26:51,820
- Oh, my God.

592
00:26:51,820 --> 00:26:53,405
Look at how fabulous.

593
00:26:53,405 --> 00:26:57,492
First of all, did you forget
that I have raised six kids

594
00:26:57,492 --> 00:27:01,038
and I have a little bit
of experience taking people to

595
00:27:01,038 --> 00:27:03,332
a petting zoo?
- Yeah, 40 years ago.

596
00:27:03,332 --> 00:27:06,126
Hi, Hunter.
- He's kinda a little lazy.

597
00:27:06,126 --> 00:27:08,921
- But he's not, like, skittish?
- No, he's, he's mellow.

598
00:27:08,921 --> 00:27:12,257
- Things have changed in 40 years.
- Not at-- Not a farm. And--

599
00:27:12,257 --> 00:27:14,927
- Mom, you don't know how
to put them in the car seat.

600
00:27:14,927 --> 00:27:17,304
Like, things have changed, so.
- Well, they didn't even have

601
00:27:17,304 --> 00:27:20,724
car seats when I had kids.
- That's what's so scary.

602
00:27:20,724 --> 00:27:22,351
[kiss smacks]
Come on.

603
00:27:22,351 --> 00:27:24,686
KRIS:
Oh, my gosh. Run on the grass.

604
00:27:24,686 --> 00:27:28,232
Woo-hoo! Go, ladies, go!

605
00:27:28,232 --> 00:27:30,234
- [kiss smacks] Let's go.

606
00:27:31,527 --> 00:27:32,945
- Hi, baby.

607
00:27:36,615 --> 00:27:37,616
KHLOÉ:
Okay.

608
00:27:39,159 --> 00:27:40,577
KHLOÉ:
I'm trying.

609
00:27:41,078 --> 00:27:43,288
[Kris laughing]
- Let's go, Hunter.

610
00:27:43,747 --> 00:27:45,666
Hunter isn't listening.

611
00:27:47,417 --> 00:27:50,754
Hunter, [kiss smacks] let's go.
MIGUEL: Come on, Hunter.

612
00:27:50,754 --> 00:27:53,215
- Maybe loosen the reins a little.

613
00:27:54,633 --> 00:27:56,552
- What? You've never been on a horse.

614
00:27:56,552 --> 00:27:58,554
[Kris laughs]
KHLOÉ: Come on, Hunter.

615
00:27:59,137 --> 00:28:01,765
Yes.
KRIS: There ya go!

616
00:28:02,140 --> 00:28:04,768
Yes. There it is! She's running!

617
00:28:04,768 --> 00:28:07,062
True, look, your mommy's
running on the horse.

618
00:28:07,062 --> 00:28:10,649
Khloé looks so happy on that horse.

619
00:28:10,649 --> 00:28:14,486
And actually, I think it's an extra
blessing that she's here today.

620
00:28:14,486 --> 00:28:15,821
Woo!

621
00:28:15,821 --> 00:28:18,490
Days like this are delicious.

622
00:28:19,616 --> 00:28:20,826
KHLOÉ:
Yes?

623
00:28:22,828 --> 00:28:24,037
- Well, guess what?

624
00:28:24,037 --> 00:28:25,664
[Kris laughs]
- Thank you.

625
00:28:25,664 --> 00:28:28,458
- Woo! [laughs]

626
00:28:28,458 --> 00:28:31,545
I've had the best time
because I got to take my granddaughters

627
00:28:31,545 --> 00:28:34,214
on an adventure, and--
- And I snuck along.

628
00:28:34,214 --> 00:28:37,301
- And this one surprised me. Oh, boy.

629
00:28:37,301 --> 00:28:38,468
Woo!

630
00:28:38,468 --> 00:28:41,847
She's like my bonus kid today,
so we had a really great time.

631
00:28:41,847 --> 00:28:44,433
I loved sharing--
- But I'm your-- I'm really your kid.

632
00:28:45,058 --> 00:28:49,605
- I know, but like the bonus
of having one of you with me,

633
00:28:49,605 --> 00:28:52,649
like an extra bonus,
like a little surprise.

634
00:28:52,649 --> 00:28:54,067
Yeah. Yay.

635
00:28:55,819 --> 00:28:58,822
♪ mellow upbeat music playing ♪

636
00:29:06,830 --> 00:29:09,583
- Malika and I just landed
in Crescent City,

637
00:29:09,583 --> 00:29:12,753
which is in Northern California
near Pelican Bay Prison.

638
00:29:13,128 --> 00:29:14,463
Thanks, guys.

639
00:29:14,463 --> 00:29:17,174
Malika always asks me
about the work that I do,

640
00:29:17,174 --> 00:29:19,176
and she's, like,
a really empathetic person

641
00:29:19,176 --> 00:29:22,387
and I think that she
would have a lot to say,

642
00:29:22,387 --> 00:29:23,597
and has a great platform.

643
00:29:23,597 --> 00:29:26,975
And I'm just grateful
that a new group of people

644
00:29:26,975 --> 00:29:28,936
gets to hear and be inspired.

645
00:29:32,773 --> 00:29:34,983
- Is it normal that I'm a little nervous?

646
00:29:34,983 --> 00:29:36,985
- There's nothing to be nervous over.

647
00:29:36,985 --> 00:29:39,696
If it's, like, a safety issue, like,

648
00:29:39,696 --> 00:29:43,575
when I first went into, like, San Quentin,
they gave me a full, like, breakdown.

649
00:29:43,575 --> 00:29:45,702
Like, you're so safe, you're so protected.

650
00:29:45,702 --> 00:29:48,997
They don't get people to, like,
come and visit all the time.

651
00:29:48,997 --> 00:29:51,375
They're just grateful
to have people to talk to.

652
00:29:51,375 --> 00:29:53,043
- Okay.
- We're gonna meet with people

653
00:29:53,043 --> 00:29:59,049
that, uh, were incarcerated, maybe, like,
lifers and had, like, life sentences,

654
00:29:59,049 --> 00:30:02,469
and then got out
after, like, 20 years, 25 years.

655
00:30:02,469 --> 00:30:04,972
So, you'll get to see

656
00:30:04,972 --> 00:30:08,767
that you might have this, like, stigma
of, like, what people are like or what--

657
00:30:08,767 --> 00:30:10,894
it's just-- they're just like us.

658
00:30:10,894 --> 00:30:13,814
MALIKA HAQQ: Complete opposite.
- They might've made some, like, choices

659
00:30:13,814 --> 00:30:18,944
that we wouldn't have or, like, just
some really bad circumstances that like--

660
00:30:18,944 --> 00:30:20,654
Things like this, I take and I'm like,

661
00:30:20,654 --> 00:30:24,491
"Okay, this is what
I wanna teach our boys."

662
00:30:28,453 --> 00:30:29,329
MALIKA:
Alright. Thanks.

663
00:30:29,329 --> 00:30:30,873
KIM:
We're gonna meet with Scott Budnick

664
00:30:30,873 --> 00:30:34,334
and he is the person
that brought me to my first prison,

665
00:30:34,334 --> 00:30:37,254
and he has an organization called ARC,

666
00:30:37,254 --> 00:30:40,716
which is Anti-Recidivism Coalition.

667
00:30:40,716 --> 00:30:41,717
SCOTT BUDNICK:
Good to meet you.

668
00:30:41,717 --> 00:30:43,385
I've heard so much about you.
- Good to meet you, too.

669
00:30:43,385 --> 00:30:44,595
- Hi.
- Here's Kimmy.

670
00:30:44,595 --> 00:30:46,054
- She's here.

671
00:30:46,054 --> 00:30:48,307
- Scott helps so many people get out,

672
00:30:48,307 --> 00:30:51,351
and I just learn more and more every year,

673
00:30:51,351 --> 00:30:55,689
and open myself up to helping,
so that's why I'm here.

674
00:30:55,689 --> 00:30:59,359
Malika was saying to me in the car
that she's nervous and she's scared to go.

675
00:30:59,359 --> 00:31:00,777
- Yeah.
- But, like, is that a normal

676
00:31:00,777 --> 00:31:02,446
feeling people have?
- I think it's-- It's, uh--

677
00:31:02,446 --> 00:31:05,866
I think it's the feeling--
I mean, I was scared to go the first time.

678
00:31:05,866 --> 00:31:08,327
- Yeah... yeah.
MALIKA: Okay, good, then I feel normal.

679
00:31:08,327 --> 00:31:10,829
- When you see the, like, hope and joy

680
00:31:10,829 --> 00:31:12,998
that, like, you bring just by showing up--
- Yeah.

681
00:31:12,998 --> 00:31:14,875
- Like, no one comes here.

682
00:31:14,875 --> 00:31:16,627
Definitely not a Kardashian.

683
00:31:16,627 --> 00:31:19,880
And so, to be able
to see people who care,

684
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,425
right, and are here
just... to be supportive,

685
00:31:23,425 --> 00:31:25,344
like, it's a beautiful thing.

686
00:31:25,344 --> 00:31:28,972
I think you'll come out
inspired by the guys you meet.

687
00:31:28,972 --> 00:31:31,225
And, like, I think
you'll come out hopeful.

688
00:31:31,225 --> 00:31:33,560
- We're gonna meet
with a group of prisoners

689
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:38,607
at Pelican Bay Prison to hear
what their experiences are like.

690
00:31:38,607 --> 00:31:40,359
SCOTT:
The irony of this place,

691
00:31:40,359 --> 00:31:43,654
you're probably in the most beautiful
spot of-- in all of California,

692
00:31:43,654 --> 00:31:45,697
and, like, all the healing
properties of nature,

693
00:31:45,697 --> 00:31:48,700
but no one in the prison
ever gets to experience any of this.

694
00:31:48,700 --> 00:31:52,162
- You know, every time Scott calls me
and there's an opportunity or a situation,

695
00:31:52,162 --> 00:31:54,706
I definitely wanna be a part of it.

696
00:31:54,706 --> 00:31:56,708
[birds cawing]

697
00:31:59,294 --> 00:32:02,923
♪ tense music playing ♪

698
00:32:04,383 --> 00:32:06,593
MALIKA: I mean, that i--
that's i-- that's intense.

699
00:32:06,593 --> 00:32:09,555
There's no way to get away from that.

700
00:32:09,555 --> 00:32:10,806
SCOTT:
Yeah.

701
00:32:10,806 --> 00:32:13,809
- Yeah, the cages is what really got me.

702
00:32:14,309 --> 00:32:17,938
Our cameras couldn't come in and see,
but it was really powerful.

703
00:32:18,605 --> 00:32:22,359
One of the most
disconcerning things that I saw

704
00:32:22,359 --> 00:32:25,279
was just people inside cages,

705
00:32:25,279 --> 00:32:29,449
12-foot high,
and probably only, like, this wide,

706
00:32:29,449 --> 00:32:32,578
maybe only, like, three-feet wide.

707
00:32:32,578 --> 00:32:34,788
But I think I wanna be really clear,

708
00:32:34,788 --> 00:32:39,626
I believe that if someone
does commit a violent crime,

709
00:32:39,626 --> 00:32:41,170
there has to be consequences.

710
00:32:41,170 --> 00:32:44,089
I think sometimes people feel like
anyone that works on reform

711
00:32:44,089 --> 00:32:47,384
is just super easy on crime
and that's not the case.

712
00:32:47,384 --> 00:32:49,845
You can see someone's rap sheet

713
00:32:49,845 --> 00:32:52,264
and then just automatically
form an opinion of them,

714
00:32:52,264 --> 00:32:55,225
but then if you understand
why they got to the place

715
00:32:55,225 --> 00:32:56,935
that led them to make those decisions,

716
00:32:56,935 --> 00:32:59,062
you would completely change your mind.

717
00:32:59,062 --> 00:33:02,191
Some really deserve second chances

718
00:33:02,191 --> 00:33:05,235
and just being open
to hearing their story,

719
00:33:05,235 --> 00:33:07,070
I think, is just super important.

720
00:33:07,070 --> 00:33:10,657
MALIKA: It's like I was telling Kim,
I was like, my jaws were so tight

721
00:33:10,657 --> 00:33:12,659
'cause I didn't wanna
cry in front of them.

722
00:33:12,659 --> 00:33:13,911
- Oh, wow.

723
00:33:13,911 --> 00:33:17,122
- Like, I mean, I-I did
end up crying [laughs] afterward.

724
00:33:17,122 --> 00:33:18,332
- Yes, and that's fine, by the way,

725
00:33:18,332 --> 00:33:20,292
'cause it gives them
permission to cry also.

726
00:33:20,292 --> 00:33:22,169
- Just the cages killed me.

727
00:33:22,169 --> 00:33:27,216
SCOTT: Yeah, the cages.
- The cages just felt like animals.

728
00:33:27,216 --> 00:33:28,217
- Yeah.

729
00:33:31,136 --> 00:33:34,556
Malika, when you, uh,
when he was crying in the cage

730
00:33:34,556 --> 00:33:38,310
and you put your finger up and, like,
you guys touched fingers in the cage,

731
00:33:38,310 --> 00:33:41,647
that was... whew.
[sighs]

732
00:33:41,647 --> 00:33:44,733
♪ somber music playing ♪

733
00:33:46,527 --> 00:33:48,862
KIM:
Whew. It's cold.

734
00:33:51,281 --> 00:33:52,282
Hi.

735
00:33:53,659 --> 00:33:57,037
So, now we're going to have lunch
with some of the guys from ARC,

736
00:33:57,037 --> 00:34:00,874
and they've all been lifers
that have gotten second chances

737
00:34:00,874 --> 00:34:03,377
and gotten out and now they work at ARC.

738
00:34:03,377 --> 00:34:06,839
And even some of the guys
have been in Pelican Bay.

739
00:34:06,839 --> 00:34:09,174
When you can hear what
other people have been through

740
00:34:09,174 --> 00:34:11,343
and they can be open
and share their stories,

741
00:34:11,343 --> 00:34:15,430
and then talk about how they
never gave up... is really inspiring.

742
00:34:15,430 --> 00:34:19,685
- All of us were incarcerated
in the same institution.

743
00:34:19,685 --> 00:34:23,397
- On average, everybody's spent
at least 20 years of incarceration.

744
00:34:23,397 --> 00:34:24,940
ARC MEMBER 3:
Let's do a quick round house.

745
00:34:24,940 --> 00:34:27,943
Just, uh, what you-- what--
how much time you were sentenced to

746
00:34:27,943 --> 00:34:29,152
and how much time did you do?

747
00:34:29,152 --> 00:34:32,322
- Twenty-seven years to life
and I served thirty-two.

748
00:34:32,322 --> 00:34:33,824
- Did 50 years to life.

749
00:34:33,824 --> 00:34:35,909
Had my sentenced
commuted by Governor Brown.

750
00:34:35,909 --> 00:34:38,078
I served 16 years off that 50 to life.

751
00:34:38,078 --> 00:34:41,290
- I was sentenced to 30 years of life
and I served 22 years.

752
00:34:41,290 --> 00:34:44,168
- I was incarcerated at 18 years old.
Sentenced to life without parole,

753
00:34:44,168 --> 00:34:45,502
plus four years.

754
00:34:45,502 --> 00:34:47,254
And I served 23 and a half years.

755
00:34:47,254 --> 00:34:50,716
ARC MEMBER 2: I was sentenced to 28 years.
Ended up serving 20 years incarcerated.

756
00:34:50,716 --> 00:34:52,968
ARC MEMBER 7:
I was sentenced to 26 years to life

757
00:34:52,968 --> 00:34:55,888
and did 21 years, four months,
three weeks, six days.

758
00:34:55,888 --> 00:34:59,766
- Uh, I was sentenced to 25 to life
plus two life sentences, plus 20 years.

759
00:34:59,766 --> 00:35:03,478
And I did 25 years
and maybe three or four days off of that.

760
00:35:03,478 --> 00:35:06,982
- Um, I was sentenced
to 30 years to life plus another 11.

761
00:35:06,982 --> 00:35:09,359
And I ended up doing, uh, 20.

762
00:35:09,359 --> 00:35:10,360
MALIKA:
Wow.

763
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,196
- I don't know how many
of you guys are in therapy,

764
00:35:12,196 --> 00:35:14,364
but, like-- There ya go.
That's what I'm talkin' about.

765
00:35:14,364 --> 00:35:17,409
I'm proud to admit that
my therapist has been like a godsend.

766
00:35:17,409 --> 00:35:18,744
And as far as my healing,

767
00:35:18,744 --> 00:35:20,370
because, like,
on one hand we're told, like,

768
00:35:20,370 --> 00:35:23,999
we have to be tough because
we-we survived all of this crazy shit.

769
00:35:23,999 --> 00:35:27,544
But, like, nah, man, the-the world
expanding in front of our eyes

770
00:35:27,544 --> 00:35:31,048
from these tiny, little cages
to, like, this great, big world is huge.

771
00:35:31,048 --> 00:35:35,052
- I always like to ask this
'cause I'm just always so curious.

772
00:35:35,636 --> 00:35:38,972
What was your first meal
when you guys got out?

773
00:35:38,972 --> 00:35:41,725
- In-N-Out.
KIM: Ah, that-that would be mine.

774
00:35:41,725 --> 00:35:45,270
[crosstalk]
- You know, for-for years I sat in prison,

775
00:35:45,270 --> 00:35:48,273
I've wanted a big ol' New York steak.

776
00:35:48,899 --> 00:35:52,236
When I got out, that was the first thing
I went to do is get this big old steak.

777
00:35:52,236 --> 00:35:56,490
- My jaw was hurting the next day
'cause we weren't used to eating meat.

778
00:35:56,490 --> 00:35:59,535
- I've been to prisons before.
I've experienced this.

779
00:35:59,535 --> 00:36:02,746
Malika hasn't, so this was her first time.

780
00:36:02,746 --> 00:36:08,627
The number one thing that I'm hearing
that is the problem is not being fixed.

781
00:36:08,627 --> 00:36:12,798
Like, everyone gets stuck
in a cycle of how they grew up.

782
00:36:13,215 --> 00:36:19,012
So, it's just, like, how do you
get people to really make those changes

783
00:36:19,012 --> 00:36:24,101
so that they don't have...
that, like, cyclical problem

784
00:36:24,101 --> 00:36:26,812
of the same problems
growing up with the gangs

785
00:36:26,812 --> 00:36:28,689
and growing up
with parents that aren't there.

786
00:36:28,689 --> 00:36:30,440
Like, I don't have the answers.

787
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:35,904
- Right now, we're doin' this on the,
on the opposite end of the pipeline.

788
00:36:35,904 --> 00:36:37,114
People already gettin' into prisons

789
00:36:37,114 --> 00:36:40,409
and we're tryin' to find a way
to get 'em out and not return.

790
00:36:40,409 --> 00:36:42,452
We need to start
at the beginnin' of that pipeline

791
00:36:42,452 --> 00:36:45,163
to say how can we stop the flow...
- Yeah.

792
00:36:45,163 --> 00:36:47,708
- ...of them ever
gettin' in to begin with?

793
00:36:47,708 --> 00:36:51,920
And what comes with that is
healthier families, healthier communities.

794
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,631
That is how you stop
the transgenerational...
- Yeah.

795
00:36:54,631 --> 00:36:58,677
- ...mass incarceration, or poverty,
or gangs, as you mentioned.

796
00:36:58,677 --> 00:37:01,763
- My last year incarcerated,
they spent over a $100,000,

797
00:37:01,763 --> 00:37:05,309
$100,000 in that year
to keep me in a cage.

798
00:37:05,309 --> 00:37:08,562
How much therapy could
you provide in a grade school

799
00:37:08,562 --> 00:37:10,981
for you to help to stop
them from goin' to prison?

800
00:37:12,649 --> 00:37:17,654
KIM: I just really believe in redemption.
I believe in rehabilitation.

801
00:37:17,654 --> 00:37:21,783
Like, who in their life has been perfect
and hasn't made bad decisions?

802
00:37:21,783 --> 00:37:23,368
ARC MEMBER 6: What is,
what is the drivin' point for you

803
00:37:23,368 --> 00:37:25,245
to, to wanna do the work that you doin'?

804
00:37:25,245 --> 00:37:27,748
- I think I just saw something on Twitter,

805
00:37:27,748 --> 00:37:30,542
like, a little video that someone
had made on a girl's case.

806
00:37:30,542 --> 00:37:35,756
She was someone that answered
the phone and was, like, a phone mule.

807
00:37:35,756 --> 00:37:39,009
I was like, how does this happen?
How does that make sense?

808
00:37:39,009 --> 00:37:42,387
It just, like, opened up my heart.
I just really connected to that.

809
00:37:43,430 --> 00:37:47,935
Once I realized the influence that I have
and that people were listening,

810
00:37:47,935 --> 00:37:51,563
I just couldn't stop and I wanted
to get more and more involved.

811
00:37:51,563 --> 00:37:55,067
- North, your mother is literally
in history books now.

812
00:37:55,067 --> 00:37:58,987
As a person that championed
my case and humanized it.

813
00:37:58,987 --> 00:38:02,741
- I was able to help you,
and then I learned so much along the way

814
00:38:02,741 --> 00:38:05,160
and was like, "I can't stop here."

815
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,703
There's so much more I have to do.

816
00:38:06,703 --> 00:38:09,706
There's so many more Alices out there,
like, we have to help.

817
00:38:09,706 --> 00:38:11,792
You gave me, like, purpose.

818
00:38:11,792 --> 00:38:13,794
- You gave me freedom.

819
00:38:14,670 --> 00:38:16,922
- And then the president
signed the First Step Act,

820
00:38:16,922 --> 00:38:19,299
which has let out 30,000 people.

821
00:38:19,299 --> 00:38:22,469
And my attorneys, they wrote that bill.

822
00:38:22,469 --> 00:38:25,931
So, it was like a ripple effect
and it kept going,

823
00:38:25,931 --> 00:38:28,183
and then you're just like,
"Wait, how can I do more?"

824
00:38:28,183 --> 00:38:30,185
And, so...

825
00:38:30,936 --> 00:38:36,024
I've been working on prison reform work
for about five years now.

826
00:38:36,024 --> 00:38:39,319
And as time has gone on
and as I've helped more people,

827
00:38:39,319 --> 00:38:41,572
my empathy has grown more and more

828
00:38:41,572 --> 00:38:43,740
and I have a lot more compassion than,

829
00:38:43,740 --> 00:38:46,994
ya know, I did a year ago
and then I did at 10 years ago.

830
00:38:46,994 --> 00:38:50,122
If people have really shown
that they can change,

831
00:38:50,122 --> 00:38:52,708
why wouldn't we give
people a second chance?

832
00:38:52,708 --> 00:38:55,627
- Well, I wanna thank you
for-for really, uh, puttin' your heart

833
00:38:55,627 --> 00:38:57,838
into-- to makin' this system better.

834
00:38:57,838 --> 00:39:01,091
It means a lot to the men inside.
So, thank you so much.

835
00:39:01,091 --> 00:39:02,843
- Well, we have to all take a selfie.

836
00:39:02,843 --> 00:39:06,471
- Oh, we get a selfie!
KIM: Wait, hold on. Hold on, let's see.

837
00:39:07,723 --> 00:39:09,349
Malika, get in. Okay.

838
00:39:10,350 --> 00:39:11,185
[camera shutter clicks]

839
00:39:12,227 --> 00:39:14,771
- Kim, what was it like seeing
someone with your face tattooed

840
00:39:14,771 --> 00:39:17,774
on their body in prison?
[laughter]

841
00:39:19,026 --> 00:39:20,611
- I was honored.

842
00:39:21,195 --> 00:39:24,114
I was honored. It was cool.

843
00:39:24,114 --> 00:39:27,159
♪ upbeat music playing ♪

844
00:39:29,786 --> 00:39:32,039
- ♪ Tell me what you want now ♪

845
00:39:32,039 --> 00:39:34,041
♪ Tell me what you need ♪

846
00:39:34,041 --> 00:39:36,126
♪ I got the beat to move ya ♪

847
00:39:36,126 --> 00:39:39,046
♪ So get up onto your feet ♪

848
00:39:39,046 --> 00:39:40,881
♪ You got that boom boom boom ♪

849
00:39:40,881 --> 00:39:41,882
KRIS:
Hello.

850
00:39:41,882 --> 00:39:44,843
KHLOÉ: Hello.
- Where's Miss Truzzel?

851
00:39:44,843 --> 00:39:46,261
- School.

852
00:39:46,261 --> 00:39:47,804
- So, what else is happening?

853
00:39:47,804 --> 00:39:50,182
- A lot and nothing all at the same time.

854
00:39:50,182 --> 00:39:52,893
KRIS: After Khloé and I
went to my friend's farm,

855
00:39:52,893 --> 00:39:56,104
I've been trying to figure out
what her next chapter might be.

856
00:39:56,104 --> 00:40:00,776
She's so funny,
and so smart, and so articulate,

857
00:40:00,776 --> 00:40:02,236
and she's so great with people.

858
00:40:02,236 --> 00:40:04,238
And I thought,
"Wow, you know what?

859
00:40:04,238 --> 00:40:07,658
"I would love to listen
to Khloé's point of view

860
00:40:07,658 --> 00:40:09,493
on so many different things."

861
00:40:09,493 --> 00:40:13,705
I really feel strongly
that you should have a podcast,

862
00:40:13,705 --> 00:40:16,917
which now everybody's
doing it from their house.

863
00:40:16,917 --> 00:40:20,546
You could come over, you could go
to Kylie Cosmetics down the street

864
00:40:20,546 --> 00:40:24,174
and you could record there
once a week, whatever it took.

865
00:40:24,174 --> 00:40:29,012
I think you would really be a person
I would listen to and you're my daughter.

866
00:40:29,012 --> 00:40:32,641
- But you have to weigh out
risk versus reward.

867
00:40:32,641 --> 00:40:37,980
L-Let's just say I'm talking about Caitlyn
and I accidentally say Bruce for a second

868
00:40:37,980 --> 00:40:39,648
and then I go, "Oh, Cait--"

869
00:40:39,648 --> 00:40:43,569
You know, like, I would know
it was an innocent mistake.

870
00:40:43,569 --> 00:40:45,988
- Right.
- It wouldn't be with malice intent.

871
00:40:45,988 --> 00:40:48,240
That little thing that seems so innocent,

872
00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:50,951
I could be annihilated for.

873
00:40:51,785 --> 00:40:54,705
KRIS: I get Khloé's point
about the Kardashian name

874
00:40:54,705 --> 00:40:57,875
because it does draw a lot of attention.

875
00:40:57,875 --> 00:41:01,753
And if she says the wrong thing,
I understand where that fear is.

876
00:41:01,753 --> 00:41:05,174
But fear is like fire.

877
00:41:05,174 --> 00:41:09,845
It can either heat your home
or burn your house down.

878
00:41:09,845 --> 00:41:11,346
It can go both ways.

879
00:41:11,346 --> 00:41:15,225
I think she's gotta get over
this fear that she holds inside

880
00:41:15,225 --> 00:41:20,105
and have the confidence
to be able to go out there into the world

881
00:41:20,105 --> 00:41:23,150
and share what her special gift is.

882
00:41:23,150 --> 00:41:25,736
You could do so many
great things on a podcast.

883
00:41:25,736 --> 00:41:27,988
- As I appreciate all of that

884
00:41:27,988 --> 00:41:31,033
and I'm sure I'd be
good at a lotta things,

885
00:41:31,033 --> 00:41:35,245
but I can't take on other
responsibilities like that.

886
00:41:35,245 --> 00:41:37,539
Like, starting something completely new

887
00:41:37,539 --> 00:41:40,417
because I don't have a team to lean on.

888
00:41:40,417 --> 00:41:42,544
Like, I don't have a management team.

889
00:41:42,544 --> 00:41:44,922
You are only there
until the contract is signed

890
00:41:44,922 --> 00:41:49,510
and then you dissipate until
you wanna bring me a next contract,

891
00:41:49,510 --> 00:41:50,677
which that's your choice.

892
00:41:50,677 --> 00:41:54,890
You're in your 60s,
you've managed your ass off for all of us.

893
00:41:54,890 --> 00:41:58,727
You've got us to all where we are.
I'm not complaining about that.

894
00:41:58,727 --> 00:42:01,730
I'm just pointing it out.
I don't have a middleman to go to

895
00:42:01,730 --> 00:42:04,149
to say, "I need help here, X, Y, and Z."

896
00:42:04,149 --> 00:42:06,401
You have no idea how I don't sleep,

897
00:42:06,401 --> 00:42:10,531
how I can't do
any of the things that I should be doing

898
00:42:10,531 --> 00:42:15,285
because I'm trying to fix
the [bleep]-ups that have happened.

899
00:42:15,285 --> 00:42:16,411
- I understand that.

900
00:42:16,411 --> 00:42:19,706
I look at the glass half-full,
I always have.

901
00:42:19,706 --> 00:42:21,375
And so, I'm just here to say,

902
00:42:21,375 --> 00:42:24,419
"Let's really look forward
and think about the positive."

903
00:42:24,419 --> 00:42:28,090
- But then if I go ahead
and I take on this podcast deal,

904
00:42:28,090 --> 00:42:33,804
I'm... overwhelmed with work
that I'm doing all on my own

905
00:42:33,804 --> 00:42:36,807
'cause I have no team, no support.

906
00:42:36,807 --> 00:42:40,769
And so, before I take on another project,

907
00:42:40,769 --> 00:42:44,398
I need to fix the 20
that are so [bleep] up.

908
00:42:47,359 --> 00:42:49,111
And I don't know even how to do that.

909
00:42:49,111 --> 00:42:50,779
And you don't know how to do that,

910
00:42:50,779 --> 00:42:54,408
because if you did, it would've
been fixed by now and it's not.

911
00:42:56,034 --> 00:42:58,620
I think one
of my frustrations with you is

912
00:42:58,620 --> 00:43:02,332
there's not a lot of follow-through
after something is done.

913
00:43:02,332 --> 00:43:04,084
And this is me talking
to you as my manager.

914
00:43:04,084 --> 00:43:06,420
When you are on your vacations,

915
00:43:06,420 --> 00:43:09,840
when you're in other countries,
when you're at dinners, lunches,

916
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,259
ya know, you might be
on a yacht for two weeks,

917
00:43:12,259 --> 00:43:13,594
which you should be.

918
00:43:13,594 --> 00:43:17,556
You have an assistant that will say,
"We can't do this unless we talk to Kris."

919
00:43:17,556 --> 00:43:20,309
And then when I get
ahold of you hours later,

920
00:43:20,309 --> 00:43:25,314
that makes me boil
in whatever my issue is.

921
00:43:27,024 --> 00:43:29,776
Her and I are very similar
in that we like to control things

922
00:43:29,776 --> 00:43:32,696
and we like to do everything ourself.

923
00:43:32,696 --> 00:43:33,780
And it's not a knock on her,

924
00:43:33,780 --> 00:43:37,534
but there's no possible way that
she could do everything on her own

925
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,246
and have everyone feel
that they're equally taken care of.

926
00:43:41,246 --> 00:43:44,416
When you wanna take on multiple clients,

927
00:43:44,416 --> 00:43:47,753
you have to fulfill
their multiple and different needs.

928
00:43:47,753 --> 00:43:51,006
You don't give enough to each one
'cause you physically can't.

929
00:43:51,006 --> 00:43:52,633
- That's not a fair statement.

930
00:43:52,633 --> 00:43:55,135
I agree that i-it's very difficult for me

931
00:43:55,135 --> 00:43:57,346
to be in two places at the same time.

932
00:43:57,346 --> 00:43:58,764
- Right.
- I understand

933
00:43:58,764 --> 00:44:00,015
your frustration.
- Or six places.

934
00:44:00,015 --> 00:44:03,810
- However, we would build
a team with a company

935
00:44:03,810 --> 00:44:06,980
who said they have
a complete production facility.

936
00:44:06,980 --> 00:44:09,525
They completely build a team around you.

937
00:44:09,525 --> 00:44:12,027
- I don't trust that
because I've never had a team built

938
00:44:12,027 --> 00:44:16,073
in one of the other jobs I've ever had

939
00:44:16,073 --> 00:44:18,909
since I've been working for you.

940
00:44:18,909 --> 00:44:20,536
- Well, you and I disagree.

941
00:44:24,081 --> 00:44:27,709
- There's issues
that I have with my manager,

942
00:44:27,709 --> 00:44:29,837
not my mom, my manager.

943
00:44:29,837 --> 00:44:30,838
And

944
00:44:32,339 --> 00:44:37,052
when I try to address those issues,

945
00:44:37,052 --> 00:44:38,679
I get a lotta pushback.

946
00:44:38,679 --> 00:44:43,267
And it's always, like, either
a guilt trip, things that a mom would do.

947
00:44:43,267 --> 00:44:46,270
And those lines get really blurred.
They're very gray.

948
00:44:46,270 --> 00:44:48,397
No-Nowhere-- Do I have one--

949
00:44:48,397 --> 00:44:51,650
Do I have one person
at Good American that represents me?

950
00:44:52,276 --> 00:44:55,028
Also, from my management side,

951
00:44:55,028 --> 00:44:56,780
who can I call, besides you,

952
00:44:56,780 --> 00:44:59,283
that can give me an answer
and help me immediately?

953
00:44:59,283 --> 00:45:02,160
'Cause I've never--
I can't name one person.

954
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:06,248
I never feel like there's people
that are looking out for me.

955
00:45:06,248 --> 00:45:08,333
I have to do it all on my own

956
00:45:08,333 --> 00:45:13,255
in every single category and job I have.

957
00:45:13,255 --> 00:45:16,133
If I go ahead
and I take on this podcast deal,

958
00:45:16,133 --> 00:45:18,635
I don't have faith
that it's gonna go the way

959
00:45:18,635 --> 00:45:22,472
you are so nonchalant,
like, "It's gonna be great."

960
00:45:22,472 --> 00:45:26,143
- You're disappointed
in my, you know, performance,

961
00:45:26,143 --> 00:45:29,062
and I-I feel terrible about that.

962
00:45:29,062 --> 00:45:31,315
I wanna find the thing
that makes you happy.

963
00:45:31,315 --> 00:45:32,316
That's my job.

964
00:45:32,316 --> 00:45:36,320
You have a really big following
and a really big voice,

965
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,530
and I think you would be
somebody that everybody...
- But it's not about--

966
00:45:38,530 --> 00:45:39,531
- ...would wanna listen to.

967
00:45:39,531 --> 00:45:43,202
- [sighs]
I... I think you're missing

968
00:45:43,202 --> 00:45:44,494
the whole--
- I'm not.

969
00:45:44,494 --> 00:45:45,579
I get what you're saying.

970
00:45:45,579 --> 00:45:47,414
- But--
- I think we just look at it differently.

971
00:45:47,414 --> 00:45:49,750
- I don't know one thing
I said that was not

972
00:45:49,750 --> 00:45:51,752
exactly the way it is.
- I think we just look at it--

973
00:45:51,752 --> 00:45:54,171
It-- I'm not saying it wasn't.
I think your expectation--

974
00:45:54,171 --> 00:45:56,298
- So, who-who am I-- who can I go--
- Listen! I just said, if you wanna

975
00:45:56,298 --> 00:45:58,258
do a podcast, we'll build a team.

976
00:45:58,258 --> 00:45:59,593
That's what I'm getting at.

977
00:45:59,593 --> 00:46:03,013
- And what I'm getting at is
I'm not gonna continue the conversation

978
00:46:03,013 --> 00:46:07,851
and I'm not talking
to this bullshit that you keep trying...

979
00:46:07,851 --> 00:46:10,270
- Okay.
- ...because I'm never [bleep] heard.

980
00:46:10,270 --> 00:46:12,189
We put a Band-Aid over a bullet hole.

981
00:46:12,189 --> 00:46:14,399
- Oh, my God.
- And she likes to patronize me

982
00:46:14,399 --> 00:46:16,693
and be like, "Oh, no, everything's fine.
We'll work on it."

983
00:46:16,693 --> 00:46:19,988
It's all bullshit.
I'm so turned off from all of this.

984
00:46:19,988 --> 00:46:22,574
- You don't even understand
what I'm saying. Okay?

985
00:46:22,574 --> 00:46:24,826
'Cause you're just somewhere else.
You're spiraling.

986
00:46:28,789 --> 00:46:31,542
- It's almost like
I'm trying to take my stance

987
00:46:31,542 --> 00:46:34,127
and be like,
"I'm not gonna take on other jobs."

988
00:46:34,127 --> 00:46:37,256
- Okay, okay, okay.
- The point is-- Don't-- No, no, no.

989
00:46:37,256 --> 00:46:39,091
You're not gonna "okay" me.

990
00:46:39,091 --> 00:46:40,384
- Okay, I get the point.

991
00:46:40,384 --> 00:46:43,554
I-I'm not gonna keep belaboring
this whole thing over and over again.

992
00:46:43,554 --> 00:46:44,888
I get the point.
- But we need to

993
00:46:44,888 --> 00:46:48,392
if you haven't understood.
- I-- It's-- I don't wanna cause more--

994
00:46:48,392 --> 00:46:50,602
I don't wanna put
salt in a wound right now.
- Right. But why--

995
00:46:50,602 --> 00:46:52,980
But who cares about my wound?

996
00:46:52,980 --> 00:46:58,151
- I want your wounds to be
n-necessarily taken care of.

997
00:46:58,151 --> 00:47:00,529
- But how are you doing so?
- But right now, let's just--

998
00:47:00,529 --> 00:47:02,739
Calm down, Khloé.
You're just getting upset again

999
00:47:02,739 --> 00:47:04,741
and it's-its-- you're-- it's...
- Oh, and it's-- [scoffs]

1000
00:47:04,741 --> 00:47:07,327
- ...festering into all
these other things that aren't--

1001
00:47:07,327 --> 00:47:09,830
It's just not healthy for you, babe.

1002
00:47:09,830 --> 00:47:12,124
It's not healthy. You're so mad.
- Oh, yeah, so let's throw a pod--

1003
00:47:12,124 --> 00:47:13,834
let's throw a podcast into it.

1004
00:47:13,834 --> 00:47:16,962
♪ tense, somber music playing ♪

1005
00:47:16,962 --> 00:47:21,300
I don't know if my mom fully understands
everything that's happening in my life.

1006
00:47:22,009 --> 00:47:26,221
I don't know. I don't have
a lot of expectations, I guess.

1007
00:47:28,015 --> 00:47:30,517
- Without expectations,
you don't get hurt with anything.

1008
00:47:30,517 --> 00:47:34,313
Um, I think I've had so many
expectations for so many years

1009
00:47:34,313 --> 00:47:37,983
and they've always... fallen short,

1010
00:47:37,983 --> 00:47:41,820
and so it's just easier
to just not expect anything,

1011
00:47:41,820 --> 00:47:43,655
and then just be grateful
with what you get.

1012
00:47:44,656 --> 00:47:45,866
I don't know.

1013
00:47:46,575 --> 00:47:48,785
Maybe it's like a defense mechanism.

1014
00:47:48,785 --> 00:47:53,415
I have no idea. But it's just--
it's what serves me better.

1015
00:47:54,625 --> 00:47:57,377
- My heart's in the right place.
I just want the best for you.

1016
00:47:57,377 --> 00:48:00,380
If you don't wanna
do a podcast, don't do a podcast.

1017
00:48:00,380 --> 00:48:03,759
If this isn't in your heart,
then you don't wanna do it.

1018
00:48:07,763 --> 00:48:10,390
I don't like to see Khloé upset.

1019
00:48:10,390 --> 00:48:13,018
I'm very solution-based,

1020
00:48:13,018 --> 00:48:16,647
so when I let somebody down,
or I disappoint anybody,

1021
00:48:16,647 --> 00:48:20,067
or make somebody
sad or mad, I wanna fix it.

1022
00:48:20,067 --> 00:48:24,404
And I want to find a way
to make Khloé happy.

1023
00:48:24,404 --> 00:48:27,157
I want you to do something
that's in your heart.

1024
00:48:27,157 --> 00:48:30,661
- I don't have a lotta things
in my heart, in general, these days.

1025
00:48:30,661 --> 00:48:32,287
- I understand.

1026
00:48:40,587 --> 00:48:43,006
KIM: Next on The Kardashians.

1027
00:48:43,006 --> 00:48:44,925
- Khloé's mad at me because--
- Why?

1028
00:48:44,925 --> 00:48:47,177
- I haven't been paying
enough attention to her.

1029
00:48:47,177 --> 00:48:49,555
She thinks I can be
in four places at the same time.

1030
00:48:49,555 --> 00:48:52,057
- Things haven't been
resolved with me and my mom.

1031
00:48:52,057 --> 00:48:54,476
We definitely need to talk things out.

1032
00:48:54,476 --> 00:48:56,270
- Ah. Hi, Howie.
HOWIE MANDEL [through machine]: Wow.

1033
00:48:56,270 --> 00:48:57,604
High five.
[Kris laughs]

1034
00:48:57,604 --> 00:49:00,858
KRIS: According to my kids,
there's not enough of me to go around.

1035
00:49:00,858 --> 00:49:03,318
Problem solved.
- Am I supposed to do something?

1036
00:49:03,318 --> 00:49:04,736
- [through machine] Hi, Khloé.
[Khloé gasps]

1037
00:49:04,736 --> 00:49:06,822
- Welcome home.
- Hi.

1038
00:49:06,822 --> 00:49:08,323
No, is she really talkin' to me?

1039
00:49:08,323 --> 00:49:10,325
- Come on over here. Come to mama.

1040
00:49:11,451 --> 00:49:15,372
- Chris Appleton has been doing
my hair for a really long time.

1041
00:49:15,372 --> 00:49:16,748
He's, like, my hair husband.

1042
00:49:16,748 --> 00:49:19,293
Today is the big day.

1043
00:49:19,293 --> 00:49:22,838
- We are in Vegas
and we're about to get married.

1044
00:49:22,838 --> 00:49:23,797
Whew!

1045
00:49:23,797 --> 00:49:26,967
- Guys, I've never done this before
and I haven't even rehearsed.

1046
00:49:26,967 --> 00:49:30,095
I was rushing
and I forgot to invite Khloé.

1047
00:49:30,095 --> 00:49:34,600
- What really stung
was that she went to Usher.

1048
00:49:36,727 --> 00:49:40,564
♪ Like Woah by Vanacore Music playing ♪

1049
00:49:40,564 --> 00:49:42,566
- ♪ Like woah ♪
- ♪ Like woah ♪

1050
00:49:42,566 --> 00:49:43,483
- ♪ Like woah ♪

1051
00:49:43,734 --> 00:49:44,902
- ♪ Like woah ♪

1052
00:49:44,902 --> 00:49:48,655
- ♪ Pop pop, beat don't stop,
let me see you pop and drop ♪

1053
00:49:48,655 --> 00:49:50,490
♪ Like woah ♪
- ♪ Like woah ♪

1054
00:49:50,490 --> 00:49:52,117
- ♪ Like woah ♪
- ♪ Like woah ♪

1055
00:49:52,117 --> 00:49:53,535
- ♪ Let's go ♪
- ♪ Yeah ♪

1056
00:49:53,535 --> 00:49:55,329
- ♪ 'Cause I've been like that ♪

1057
00:49:55,329 --> 00:49:56,830
♪ Got no chill like that ♪

1058
00:49:56,830 --> 00:50:00,834
♪ Move on bad,
let me show you how it's done ♪

1059
00:50:00,834 --> 00:50:04,546
♪ Bang bang, hit that frame,
let me see you do your thing ♪

1060
00:50:04,546 --> 00:50:06,465
♪ Like woah ♪
- ♪ Like woah ♪

1061
00:50:06,465 --> 00:50:08,800
- ♪ Like woah ♪
- ♪ Like woah ♪

1062
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,596
- ♪ Pop pop, beat don't stop,
let me see you pop and drop ♪

1063
00:50:12,596 --> 00:50:14,473
♪ Like woah ♪
- ♪ Like woah ♪

1064
00:50:14,473 --> 00:50:16,099
- ♪ Like woah ♪
- ♪ Like woah ♪

1065
00:50:16,099 --> 00:50:17,309
- ♪ Let's go ♪

1066
00:50:17,935 --> 00:50:22,189
- Guess who shows up?
Little Miss Buzzkill.

1067
00:50:22,564 --> 00:50:25,192
- Let's not talk about when
I came over on a Friday at 6:00 p.m.

1068
00:50:25,192 --> 00:50:29,279
and you [bleep] because I was bothering
your Dateline on East Coast feed time.

1069
00:50:29,279 --> 00:50:30,322
- Oh.

1070
00:50:30,322 --> 00:50:32,741
- So, you didn't wanna play
Simon Says then with your--

1071
00:50:32,741 --> 00:50:36,203
I had about nine of your grandkids
that day and you were like--

1072
00:50:36,203 --> 00:50:38,455
The eyes that you gave me.

1073
00:50:38,455 --> 00:50:42,084
Oh, I know what that means.
- Well... it was Dateline.

1074
00:50:42,084 --> 00:50:43,877
[quiet laughter]

1075
00:50:43,877 --> 00:50:45,796
And it wasn't a rerun.

1076
00:50:48,799 --> 00:50:50,425
[bell tolls]