1 00:00:02,293 --> 00:00:02,877 - Tonight, on part two 2 00:00:04,087 --> 00:00:05,463 of "The Real Housewives of Dubai" reunion... 3 00:00:05,505 --> 00:00:08,842 You dated "365 Days" star Michele Morrone. 4 00:00:08,883 --> 00:00:12,303 He got your name tattooed on himself? 5 00:00:12,345 --> 00:00:13,888 - When you say I'm-I'm queen bee, 6 00:00:13,930 --> 00:00:15,056 other people said it for me. 7 00:00:15,098 --> 00:00:16,641 - Everyone sitting here is a queen. 8 00:00:16,683 --> 00:00:17,892 - Beauty is being humble. 9 00:00:17,934 --> 00:00:19,352 - God did not take all this time to create me 10 00:00:19,394 --> 00:00:21,563 to be humble for nobody. Not gonna happen. 11 00:00:21,604 --> 00:00:24,065 - Focus on the fact that you can't even get a mortgage 12 00:00:24,107 --> 00:00:25,150 and stop worrying about-- - I've got a mortgage. 13 00:00:25,191 --> 00:00:26,901 - No, you've been declined. 14 00:00:26,943 --> 00:00:29,362 - You, out of all people, that's known me for many years, 15 00:00:29,404 --> 00:00:31,531 knows that I was not being rude. 16 00:00:31,573 --> 00:00:34,743 - This is a sexual abuse to young kids that have no power 17 00:00:34,784 --> 00:00:37,203 to speak for themselves. 18 00:00:37,245 --> 00:00:38,371 - You were going around telling everybody 19 00:00:38,413 --> 00:00:40,123 you're, like, the queen of this show. 20 00:00:40,165 --> 00:00:41,958 - "Just admit you're threatened by Ayan." 21 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,376 - Yes. 22 00:00:43,418 --> 00:00:45,962 - Let me know when you can run a successful business. 23 00:00:46,004 --> 00:00:47,130 I know all this black girl-- 24 00:00:47,172 --> 00:00:48,048 - You steal designs. I've got proof, too. 25 00:00:48,089 --> 00:00:49,632 - Aww. - I don't steal designs. 26 00:00:49,674 --> 00:00:51,259 - Okay. Oh, boy. 27 00:00:53,094 --> 00:00:54,346 [laughing] - Oh! 28 00:00:54,387 --> 00:00:55,680 - What? - Um, Lesa Milan, 29 00:00:55,722 --> 00:00:58,308 we have "The Book of Lies." Wow, this is-- okay. 30 00:00:58,350 --> 00:00:59,726 - Wow. - That's rude. 31 00:00:59,768 --> 00:01:01,311 - You real-- you're really invested in me. I love it. 32 00:01:01,353 --> 00:01:02,395 - Okay, wow, there's-- okay. - Well, you've invested 33 00:01:02,437 --> 00:01:03,480 in me, Lesa, so I've invested in you. 34 00:01:03,521 --> 00:01:04,647 - There's a lot in here. - No, I haven't. 35 00:01:04,689 --> 00:01:06,232 I don't know you. I don't care to know you. 36 00:01:06,274 --> 00:01:08,568 - You've been on-- you've-- - You are the Wicked Witch 37 00:01:08,610 --> 00:01:12,447 of the Middle East. - Not wicked witch. 38 00:01:12,489 --> 00:01:14,407 - There's not-- she's not the wicked witch. 39 00:01:14,449 --> 00:01:16,910 - No, Lesa. You went on TV. You attacked my husband. 40 00:01:16,951 --> 00:01:17,994 You attacked my business. 41 00:01:18,036 --> 00:01:18,953 - I've never attacked your husband. 42 00:01:18,995 --> 00:01:20,038 - What are you talking? 43 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,206 You said my followers were fake. 44 00:01:21,247 --> 00:01:22,749 I don't have a business. My husband is gay. 45 00:01:22,791 --> 00:01:23,958 What are you talking about? - Well, are your followers real? 46 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,503 I've never attacked your husband in my life. 47 00:01:27,837 --> 00:01:29,089 - Yes. - No, no. 48 00:01:29,130 --> 00:01:31,174 - I've never called your husband gay in my life. 49 00:01:31,216 --> 00:01:32,550 I've never said that about Sergio. 50 00:01:32,592 --> 00:01:34,260 - No. - I actually like Sergio. 51 00:01:34,302 --> 00:01:38,181 Sergio, as a man, tried to come after me on Twitter. 52 00:01:38,223 --> 00:01:40,183 Rich would never try to go after you. 53 00:01:40,225 --> 00:01:41,309 - What do you mean? 54 00:01:41,351 --> 00:01:43,728 He called me a 50-year-old influencer. 55 00:01:43,770 --> 00:01:45,480 - But you are a 50-year-old influencer. 56 00:01:45,522 --> 00:01:47,399 - You're British, and that was his dry British sense of humor. 57 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:48,608 - Come on. Yes. - Please show me the record. 58 00:01:48,650 --> 00:01:49,943 Show me. - Okay, so-so, hold on. 59 00:01:49,984 --> 00:01:51,361 - Shh! - Ladies, stop! 60 00:01:51,403 --> 00:01:55,156 We're actually talking about this book, okay? 61 00:01:55,198 --> 00:01:56,533 - Yeah. I'm flattered, actually. 62 00:01:56,574 --> 00:01:58,118 - Okay. So, what she's showing is-- 63 00:01:58,159 --> 00:01:59,285 - Yes. - That's your design. 64 00:01:59,327 --> 00:02:00,453 - That's a licensed design. - Yes. 65 00:02:00,495 --> 00:02:01,621 - Oh, okay. - That's a licensed design. 66 00:02:01,663 --> 00:02:02,747 - Yes. 67 00:02:02,789 --> 00:02:03,790 - Did you license it from her friend? 68 00:02:03,832 --> 00:02:04,958 - No. - No. 69 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,167 I didn't license it from her. 70 00:02:06,209 --> 00:02:07,460 - You licensed-- - You have to go from-- 71 00:02:07,502 --> 00:02:08,920 you have to go through different manufacturers 72 00:02:08,962 --> 00:02:10,130 to license certain things. - I think this is bullsh--. 73 00:02:10,171 --> 00:02:11,381 - Okay. - And you get to change it. 74 00:02:11,423 --> 00:02:12,799 Like, for example, mine has a belt. 75 00:02:12,841 --> 00:02:14,134 Mine has a zipper. 76 00:02:14,175 --> 00:02:16,386 Focus on your bankrupt business. 77 00:02:16,428 --> 00:02:18,638 Focus on the fact that you can't even get a mortgage 78 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:19,889 and stop worrying about-- - Mm-hmm. 79 00:02:19,931 --> 00:02:20,974 - I've got a mortgage. - No. 80 00:02:21,016 --> 00:02:22,225 - No, you could not get a mortgage. 81 00:02:22,267 --> 00:02:23,309 You've been declined. - I've got a mortgage. 82 00:02:23,351 --> 00:02:24,686 I am not declined. - Okay, who cares? 83 00:02:24,728 --> 00:02:27,063 - The point is, Andy, focus on your own business. 84 00:02:27,105 --> 00:02:28,481 - Okay. 85 00:02:28,523 --> 00:02:32,068 - Focus on being in Jeffrey Epstein's notebook. 86 00:02:32,110 --> 00:02:33,486 Focus on all the things you have going. 87 00:02:33,528 --> 00:02:34,070 - Oh, you're so disgusting. - You. You're disgusting. 88 00:02:34,112 --> 00:02:35,155 You're a witch. 89 00:02:35,196 --> 00:02:36,573 - Focus that you're a former escort 90 00:02:36,614 --> 00:02:37,991 in Miami. - I could-- let me tell you. 91 00:02:38,033 --> 00:02:39,409 If I was a escort, girl, 92 00:02:39,451 --> 00:02:40,660 I would have been a rich bitch 'cause this is golden. 93 00:02:40,702 --> 00:02:42,495 - What? - Okay. All right. Okay. 94 00:02:42,537 --> 00:02:43,705 - Okay? Stay off Lipstick Mommy or whatever. 95 00:02:43,747 --> 00:02:45,331 - Are you in Jeffrey Epstein's book? 96 00:02:45,373 --> 00:02:47,751 Did you know Jeffrey Epstein? - Yeah, met them. 97 00:02:47,792 --> 00:02:49,919 I was very good friends with all of them. 98 00:02:51,254 --> 00:02:53,506 - Yeah, the audacity. Yeah. 99 00:02:53,548 --> 00:02:54,716 - All right. Um... - Caroline, 100 00:02:54,758 --> 00:02:55,884 you are going below the belt for no reason. 101 00:02:55,925 --> 00:02:57,218 - Oh, she has. So, we go-- I'll go lower. 102 00:02:57,260 --> 00:02:58,595 - Now, you're going. - I've never. 103 00:02:58,636 --> 00:03:00,096 You're obsessed with me, and it's dangerous. 104 00:03:00,138 --> 00:03:01,348 - Oh, am I? Aww. - You-- you're disgusting. 105 00:03:01,389 --> 00:03:02,515 - Oh, Lesa. - Okay, okay. 106 00:03:02,557 --> 00:03:03,641 - You wish you looked like this. 107 00:03:03,683 --> 00:03:05,393 - You live in Jumeirah. - Yeah, imagine. 108 00:03:05,435 --> 00:03:06,770 - Why? She's rich. - Where people with real money, 109 00:03:06,811 --> 00:03:08,897 real jobs live. - Okay, you all are rich. 110 00:03:08,938 --> 00:03:10,190 You're all rich. 111 00:03:10,231 --> 00:03:11,524 [laughing] - The audacity. 112 00:03:11,566 --> 00:03:13,610 - Lesa, Nora from Knoxville, Tennessee said, 113 00:03:13,651 --> 00:03:15,403 "Now that some time has passed since you launched"-- 114 00:03:15,445 --> 00:03:16,988 - Nina is the richest, but we won't go there. 115 00:03:17,030 --> 00:03:18,156 - Oh, is she? - Yes, she is. 116 00:03:18,198 --> 00:03:19,240 - No, she's not. - Bitch, look at me. 117 00:03:19,282 --> 00:03:19,991 - Good. - Yes, she is. 118 00:03:20,033 --> 00:03:21,242 - How? 119 00:03:21,284 --> 00:03:22,869 - She owns four buildings in Al Barari. 120 00:03:22,911 --> 00:03:24,079 - Okay. All right. 121 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:25,246 - I don't talk about money, Andy. 122 00:03:25,288 --> 00:03:26,331 I don't need to prove anything. 123 00:03:26,373 --> 00:03:27,332 - But I don't talk about money, either, 124 00:03:27,374 --> 00:03:28,541 but don't-don't you dare. 125 00:03:28,583 --> 00:03:29,918 - You know what I can say for sure? 126 00:03:29,959 --> 00:03:35,131 You're all very pretty, and you're all very rich. 127 00:03:35,173 --> 00:03:37,759 Um, Lesa, after episode three aired, you wrote on Twitter, 128 00:03:37,801 --> 00:03:39,803 "Special thanks to our amazing team, 129 00:03:39,844 --> 00:03:42,097 "who, despite fries not being on the menu 130 00:03:42,138 --> 00:03:43,890 "and her being so rude, 131 00:03:43,932 --> 00:03:45,392 "went out of their way to make it happen. 132 00:03:45,433 --> 00:03:47,227 "I serve French fries at a kids' party 133 00:03:47,268 --> 00:03:50,021 "and lobster tempura bites for adults." 134 00:03:50,063 --> 00:03:51,439 - Yes. 135 00:03:51,481 --> 00:03:52,982 - Eli from Evansville, Indiana wants to know 136 00:03:53,024 --> 00:03:54,609 why you came so hard for Nina. 137 00:03:54,651 --> 00:03:57,320 - Well, the thing is, I-- I've always loved Nina. 138 00:03:57,362 --> 00:03:59,364 Most fashion shows don't even serve food, right? 139 00:03:59,406 --> 00:04:00,615 - Right. - Yeah, that's true. 140 00:04:00,657 --> 00:04:02,158 - And fries was not on the menu. 141 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:03,910 The show is only 20 minutes long. 142 00:04:03,952 --> 00:04:05,954 - I didn't get 'em from the fashion show, first of all. 143 00:04:05,995 --> 00:04:07,163 I ordered from the restaurant. 144 00:04:07,205 --> 00:04:08,081 I was there an hour and a half. 145 00:04:08,123 --> 00:04:09,207 - There was no restaurant. 146 00:04:09,249 --> 00:04:10,417 We rented out the whole venue, right? 147 00:04:10,458 --> 00:04:11,751 - Yeah, you-you reacted on Twitter 148 00:04:11,793 --> 00:04:13,169 'cause you knew it was gonna cause a commotion. 149 00:04:13,211 --> 00:04:14,587 - I reacted to what I saw. No. 150 00:04:14,629 --> 00:04:16,423 - But you know that your friend is vegetarian, 151 00:04:16,464 --> 00:04:17,590 and she suffered. There's no food. 152 00:04:17,632 --> 00:04:19,426 - I came a whole hour and a half early. 153 00:04:19,467 --> 00:04:20,677 - There were vegetarian options. 154 00:04:20,719 --> 00:04:21,761 - There wasn't. There wasn't. - There was not. 155 00:04:21,803 --> 00:04:23,722 - There were vegetarian options. 156 00:04:23,763 --> 00:04:25,306 - This is a funny fight. - Well, we're not in-- Lesa-- 157 00:04:25,348 --> 00:04:26,683 - I've been to-- I've been to her dinner 158 00:04:26,725 --> 00:04:28,727 where the food is cold, and there's no tablescape, 159 00:04:28,768 --> 00:04:29,769 and I don't complain. [sighs] 160 00:04:29,811 --> 00:04:30,937 - What-what-- What dinner is that? 161 00:04:30,979 --> 00:04:32,814 - The one in Zaya Nurai. - That's not mine. 162 00:04:32,856 --> 00:04:34,107 - That was her dinner. - That was hers. 163 00:04:34,149 --> 00:04:34,691 - That was my dinner. - That's not my dinner. 164 00:04:38,319 --> 00:04:39,571 - Who is ready for wine? - I'm starved. 165 00:04:39,612 --> 00:04:40,864 - I'm really hungry. - You are? 166 00:04:40,905 --> 00:04:43,324 - I need-- but I need, like, a drink. 167 00:04:43,366 --> 00:04:44,367 - Do you care if there's a tablescape? 168 00:04:44,409 --> 00:04:45,285 - Yeah. - Yes, I do. 169 00:04:45,326 --> 00:04:46,327 - Who cares? - What? 170 00:04:46,369 --> 00:04:47,454 - I love Caroline, but I do care. 171 00:04:47,495 --> 00:04:48,705 - Of course. - Here's the thing. 172 00:04:48,747 --> 00:04:49,998 - Yes. - When someone invites you, 173 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:51,332 you don't complain. 174 00:04:51,374 --> 00:04:52,751 - That's the point. Take your own advice. 175 00:04:52,792 --> 00:04:54,002 - Yes. - When someone invites you, 176 00:04:54,044 --> 00:04:55,378 you don't complain. - Yes. I didn't complain. 177 00:04:55,420 --> 00:04:56,421 - You just sit there, watch the show, and be done. 178 00:04:56,463 --> 00:04:57,881 - Who did I complain to? - She felt-- 179 00:04:57,922 --> 00:04:59,549 she felt, watching it back, that you were complaining. 180 00:04:59,591 --> 00:05:00,592 - Yeah, over French fries. - I wasn't-- Well, because-- 181 00:05:00,633 --> 00:05:02,427 - Okay. - It was my fault, Lesa, 182 00:05:02,469 --> 00:05:03,803 that I even showed up. - Okay. 183 00:05:03,845 --> 00:05:05,555 - And that I even showed up in an hour and a half 184 00:05:05,597 --> 00:05:07,474 to support a so-called friend when you know me. 185 00:05:07,515 --> 00:05:08,516 - So-called, Nina? So-called? 186 00:05:08,558 --> 00:05:09,601 - She was being your friend, Nina. 187 00:05:09,642 --> 00:05:11,311 - Please, Ayan, let her talk. 188 00:05:11,353 --> 00:05:13,146 Let her talk. - So-called? Wow, Nina. 189 00:05:13,188 --> 00:05:14,689 So-called friend? - Exactly. 190 00:05:14,731 --> 00:05:18,401 - I feel like, unfairly, I had preconceived notions 191 00:05:18,443 --> 00:05:20,487 and things about her. - Just because I told you? 192 00:05:20,528 --> 00:05:22,322 - Because of a lot of other things you warned me. 193 00:05:22,364 --> 00:05:23,531 You told me to be careful of her. 194 00:05:23,573 --> 00:05:24,491 You told me she's an opportunist. 195 00:05:24,532 --> 00:05:25,575 - I-- but what did tell you? 196 00:05:25,617 --> 00:05:26,743 - She's only trying to befriend me. 197 00:05:26,785 --> 00:05:27,869 - No, because you're getting on the show. 198 00:05:27,911 --> 00:05:29,204 - Are you kidding me? You've warned me. 199 00:05:29,245 --> 00:05:30,497 - I don't-- I didn't like her. 200 00:05:30,538 --> 00:05:31,748 - You've called her a belligerent drunk. 201 00:05:31,790 --> 00:05:33,041 You've called her-- I have the voice notes. 202 00:05:33,083 --> 00:05:34,501 - Okay, yes, I said-- did I not tell you? 203 00:05:34,542 --> 00:05:35,627 - I have the voice notes! - There's voice notes. 204 00:05:35,669 --> 00:05:37,170 - Did I not tell you I called her that? 205 00:05:37,212 --> 00:05:38,546 - You know, look, it was before, 206 00:05:38,588 --> 00:05:40,006 and she didn't know me. I didn't-- 207 00:05:40,048 --> 00:05:41,341 I wasn't that fond of her. 208 00:05:41,383 --> 00:05:43,343 I didn't say anything like that about her. 209 00:05:43,385 --> 00:05:44,886 I have to be honest. But, you know, 210 00:05:44,928 --> 00:05:46,930 we've discussed it, and it's okay, 211 00:05:46,971 --> 00:05:49,349 and we're like-- we're- we're like sisters now, 212 00:05:49,391 --> 00:05:50,642 and I love her. - Belligerent? 213 00:05:50,684 --> 00:05:51,935 - What does it mean? Belligerent? 214 00:05:51,976 --> 00:05:53,353 - Like a crazy drunk. - Like, and, like, crazy. 215 00:05:53,395 --> 00:05:54,396 - Pushy-pushy. - Oh, yeah. 216 00:05:54,437 --> 00:05:56,189 - Like me in the desert. - Yeah. 217 00:05:56,231 --> 00:05:57,232 - Okay. One of the things 218 00:05:57,273 --> 00:05:58,525 that you kept repeating 219 00:05:58,566 --> 00:06:01,361 was that she called Stanbury ratchet, 220 00:06:01,403 --> 00:06:02,862 and ghetto, and trashy. - Mm-hmm. Yeah. 221 00:06:02,904 --> 00:06:05,115 - And so, I don't know you well. 222 00:06:05,156 --> 00:06:06,449 I'm watching the show. 223 00:06:06,491 --> 00:06:07,492 I'm watching you all on the show. 224 00:06:07,534 --> 00:06:08,702 - Yeah. She didn't say-- 225 00:06:08,743 --> 00:06:09,786 she did not. - It doesn't-- did she say, 226 00:06:09,828 --> 00:06:10,829 "Ghetto and ratchet?" - She did not. 227 00:06:10,870 --> 00:06:11,705 Those are my words but trashy. 228 00:06:11,746 --> 00:06:12,872 - Okay. - But listen, 229 00:06:12,914 --> 00:06:14,457 trashy means ghetto and ratchet. 230 00:06:14,499 --> 00:06:15,667 - No. - Okay, okay. 231 00:06:15,709 --> 00:06:16,793 - It's a saying. - Not really. 232 00:06:16,835 --> 00:06:18,128 - So, my problem isn't her saying that. 233 00:06:18,169 --> 00:06:19,754 My problem is, why? - But that was your problem. 234 00:06:19,796 --> 00:06:21,047 - Okay, hold on. - That's how it all started. 235 00:06:21,089 --> 00:06:22,507 - Just let her finish. Just let her finish. 236 00:06:22,549 --> 00:06:23,967 - No, It was my problem because you're going on TV 237 00:06:24,009 --> 00:06:25,719 saying the only reason you're not getting close to her, 238 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:26,845 is because of me. - No, that's not what I said. 239 00:06:26,886 --> 00:06:28,596 - How many times did I tell both of you, 240 00:06:28,638 --> 00:06:29,973 "Give her a chance? 241 00:06:30,015 --> 00:06:30,849 She's actually pretty cool." - That's not what-- yes. 242 00:06:30,890 --> 00:06:32,600 - Yeah. - Your point is... 243 00:06:32,642 --> 00:06:35,395 that you said those things, and then you developed 244 00:06:35,437 --> 00:06:36,688 a friendship with her. That's your whole point. 245 00:06:36,730 --> 00:06:38,189 - Yes. - Why is that so wrong? 246 00:06:38,231 --> 00:06:40,358 - And why couldn't you accept that Nina changed her mind 247 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,277 about Stanbury? - I have accepted it. 248 00:06:42,318 --> 00:06:43,570 - And wanted to give her a chance. 249 00:06:43,611 --> 00:06:44,904 - I have accepted it. - No, but you guys always 250 00:06:44,946 --> 00:06:46,740 throw it in my face. - It just seems fake, Andy. 251 00:06:46,781 --> 00:06:48,658 - How long have the two of you known each other? 252 00:06:48,700 --> 00:06:50,493 Lesa and Nina, how long? - Uh, seven, eight years. 253 00:06:50,535 --> 00:06:51,953 - Seven, eight years. - Oh, really? 254 00:06:51,995 --> 00:06:53,079 - Mm-hmm. - Yes, we've known each other the longest. 255 00:06:53,121 --> 00:06:54,164 - You've known each other seven or eight-- 256 00:06:54,205 --> 00:06:55,123 - Yes. - You've known each other 257 00:06:55,165 --> 00:06:56,416 the longest? - The longest. 258 00:06:56,458 --> 00:06:58,835 - And the turning point came over this change 259 00:06:58,877 --> 00:06:59,961 with her and Stanbury? - When I started hanging out with Stanbury. 260 00:07:00,003 --> 00:07:02,255 - No, no. You keep telling people that. 261 00:07:02,297 --> 00:07:04,466 I don't have an issue with you being friends with her. 262 00:07:04,507 --> 00:07:06,634 - You keep telling people that. - It was just fake and weird. 263 00:07:06,676 --> 00:07:08,928 - The funny thing is, I spent all season 264 00:07:08,970 --> 00:07:10,972 trying to get all of 'em together, genuinely. 265 00:07:11,014 --> 00:07:13,224 - Yeah, you did. Yeah, you did, actually. 266 00:07:13,266 --> 00:07:16,936 It's really interesting to me that, of this whole group, 267 00:07:16,978 --> 00:07:19,064 the two of you have known each other the longest. 268 00:07:19,105 --> 00:07:20,357 How do we-- - Yeah. 269 00:07:20,398 --> 00:07:21,816 - It's not about how long you know people, though. 270 00:07:21,858 --> 00:07:22,901 - No, I know but hold on. - Exactly. We've learned that. 271 00:07:22,942 --> 00:07:24,444 - We have. - We have, unfortunately. 272 00:07:24,486 --> 00:07:28,406 - But I would like to know how you two can move beyond this 273 00:07:28,448 --> 00:07:30,950 and get past it? 274 00:07:30,992 --> 00:07:33,661 - Nina, if I hurt you, I do apologize 275 00:07:33,703 --> 00:07:35,622 'cause I was not doing it to hurt you. 276 00:07:35,663 --> 00:07:37,540 - Nina, how do you respond to that? 277 00:07:37,582 --> 00:07:40,627 - If that's her only response, we can move on. 278 00:07:40,669 --> 00:07:42,087 - Okay, then we'll leave it there. 279 00:07:42,128 --> 00:07:45,715 I hope that the two of you can find your way out of it. 280 00:07:45,757 --> 00:07:46,883 - I think they can. - They will. 281 00:07:46,925 --> 00:07:48,134 They have been friends for a long time. 282 00:07:48,176 --> 00:07:49,302 - You know, yeah. - Yeah, they've been friends 283 00:07:49,344 --> 00:07:50,595 for long enough that I think 284 00:07:50,637 --> 00:07:52,097 that a-a good enough conversation 285 00:07:52,138 --> 00:07:54,974 where it's genuine and open, I think they can resolve it. 286 00:07:55,016 --> 00:07:56,476 - All right. We're gonna leave it there, 287 00:07:56,518 --> 00:07:59,020 and we're gonna break for lunch now. 288 00:07:59,062 --> 00:08:02,440 - Whoo! 289 00:08:02,482 --> 00:08:03,983 - My toes are still frozen. 290 00:08:07,612 --> 00:08:09,531 - Highlighter. 291 00:08:11,700 --> 00:08:13,660 - I wanna be entertained, not bored. 292 00:08:15,537 --> 00:08:16,788 - Let's just have fun. 293 00:08:16,830 --> 00:08:18,081 - Definitely. I was too quiet. 294 00:08:18,123 --> 00:08:20,333 The second one, I'm not going to be. 295 00:08:20,375 --> 00:08:21,918 [laughing] I am not going to be. 296 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:26,047 I think I'm coming in very bad, and I don't give a (BLEEP). 297 00:08:27,549 --> 00:08:29,300 - Coming up... 298 00:08:29,342 --> 00:08:31,261 - People who are on survival mode, 299 00:08:31,302 --> 00:08:33,596 unknowingly, they think it's them against the world. 300 00:08:33,638 --> 00:08:35,724 - Do you think that you walk through the world 301 00:08:41,855 --> 00:08:42,313 [phone ringing] 302 00:08:43,481 --> 00:08:44,941 - Hey. 303 00:08:46,526 --> 00:08:47,694 - Oh, my gosh, I went out there, 304 00:08:47,736 --> 00:08:48,987 and it already started to heat up. 305 00:08:49,029 --> 00:08:50,155 It was insane. 306 00:08:51,531 --> 00:08:52,991 - Lesa is, like, 307 00:08:53,033 --> 00:08:55,744 really letting Caroline Stanbury have it. 308 00:08:55,785 --> 00:08:58,246 I mean, I'm team Caroline because Caroline 309 00:08:58,288 --> 00:09:00,582 is just responding to what Lesa has said 310 00:09:00,623 --> 00:09:02,042 about her publicly on social media 311 00:09:02,083 --> 00:09:03,793 and everything after the show. 312 00:09:06,421 --> 00:09:07,714 - Clearly. 313 00:09:07,756 --> 00:09:10,342 - Lesa's going hard. You need her pregnancy gear. 314 00:09:10,383 --> 00:09:11,801 You never played soccer. 315 00:09:11,843 --> 00:09:13,720 - That's bullsh--! - It's bullsh--. 316 00:09:16,765 --> 00:09:18,058 - I'm happy to speak facts, 317 00:09:18,099 --> 00:09:20,226 but when you start throwing bullsh--, excuse me. 318 00:09:20,268 --> 00:09:21,186 See? Now, I'm cussing. 319 00:09:21,227 --> 00:09:22,687 This is when you know I'm upset. 320 00:09:22,729 --> 00:09:25,357 - Hi, honey. 321 00:09:25,398 --> 00:09:27,233 Well, reunion is going good. 322 00:09:27,275 --> 00:09:31,279 - Building bridges and having some positive discussions? 323 00:09:31,321 --> 00:09:34,866 - Uh, well, we haven't gotten to the building bridges part yet. 324 00:09:34,908 --> 00:09:37,369 - And I-- and I really thought I was gonna come on here 325 00:09:37,410 --> 00:09:38,536 to make peace with her. 326 00:09:38,578 --> 00:09:40,955 You know what? She's the same person. 327 00:09:40,997 --> 00:09:42,665 - But we're definitely clearing the air. 328 00:09:42,707 --> 00:09:43,750 [laughing] 329 00:09:43,792 --> 00:09:44,793 - Well, that's good. 330 00:09:44,834 --> 00:09:46,169 Just keep-keep that positive energy. 331 00:09:46,211 --> 00:09:48,213 You keep putting positive energy into it, babe, 332 00:09:48,254 --> 00:09:50,674 and sooner or later, you'll get positive energy back. 333 00:09:50,715 --> 00:09:51,800 I love you, sweetheart. Take care. 334 00:09:51,841 --> 00:09:53,718 - Love you, baby. Bye. 335 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:54,844 - We're back with 336 00:09:54,886 --> 00:09:56,262 "The Real Housewives of Dubai" reunion. 337 00:09:56,304 --> 00:09:59,265 Super opinionated supermodel Chanel Ayan 338 00:09:59,307 --> 00:10:02,977 is the gift giver that keeps on giving. 339 00:10:03,019 --> 00:10:06,731 Whether she's running her mouth or running barefoot in the mall, 340 00:10:06,773 --> 00:10:10,652 one thing is certain-- She's always runway ready. 341 00:10:10,694 --> 00:10:14,739 Period. Dot. Let's watch. 342 00:10:14,781 --> 00:10:16,991 - Whoo! 343 00:10:17,033 --> 00:10:18,827 - You can steal a lot of gold in this dress. 344 00:10:18,868 --> 00:10:20,829 - I'm the first black supermodel I Dubai. 345 00:10:20,870 --> 00:10:23,123 Ahh! Camel! Camel! - Oops. 346 00:10:23,164 --> 00:10:25,125 - I'm not bragging, honey. I'm the best. 347 00:10:25,166 --> 00:10:27,919 I'm the best. Period. Dot. 348 00:10:27,961 --> 00:10:29,170 I brought you a gift. 349 00:10:29,212 --> 00:10:30,338 - Wow. - Wow. 350 00:10:30,380 --> 00:10:31,256 - Is this a goat? - Do you have it, Lesa? 351 00:10:31,297 --> 00:10:32,424 - It is totally a goat. 352 00:10:32,465 --> 00:10:33,717 - So, when life gets you lemons, 353 00:10:33,758 --> 00:10:35,510 you give Caroline Brooks lemonade? 354 00:10:35,552 --> 00:10:37,178 - No, both of us need lemonades. 355 00:10:37,220 --> 00:10:39,264 You, honestly, you have a lot of layers, 356 00:10:39,305 --> 00:10:42,017 so I brought you onions. 357 00:10:42,058 --> 00:10:44,728 - I got absolutely nothing. - Nothing. 358 00:10:44,769 --> 00:10:47,230 That was the best gift I could have given her. 359 00:10:47,272 --> 00:10:49,107 My dad said all the problems in his marriage 360 00:10:49,149 --> 00:10:51,192 started when I was coming in. 361 00:10:51,234 --> 00:10:53,069 So, I've always looked at myself like I'm the problem 362 00:10:53,111 --> 00:10:55,697 that caused him not to love me. 363 00:10:55,739 --> 00:10:57,741 They took us to this man's house, 364 00:10:57,782 --> 00:10:59,659 and they just tied us on the bed, 365 00:10:59,701 --> 00:11:03,997 and we were circumcised. 366 00:11:13,923 --> 00:11:16,426 - No, no, Ifrah, it's okay. 367 00:11:16,468 --> 00:11:18,136 Well, I am in a better place. 368 00:11:18,178 --> 00:11:20,263 If there is a survivor on the planet, 369 00:11:20,305 --> 00:11:23,808 that ----ing sh-- is me. I've survived. 370 00:11:23,850 --> 00:11:26,853 I'm done so well for myself from where I'm from. 371 00:11:30,482 --> 00:11:31,524 - All right. 372 00:11:31,566 --> 00:11:35,695 Um, it was a really emotional moment. 373 00:11:35,737 --> 00:11:36,780 - I cried last night watching it. 374 00:11:36,821 --> 00:11:39,240 Lesa cried, too. - Yeah. 375 00:11:39,282 --> 00:11:41,076 - It's a tough situation because it's not something 376 00:11:41,117 --> 00:11:43,828 I would wish even on my worst enemy in the world, 377 00:11:43,870 --> 00:11:45,080 especially when you are five years old, 378 00:11:45,121 --> 00:11:47,415 and you're a kid, and you're supposed to be-- 379 00:11:47,457 --> 00:11:50,335 trust the people that love you, and they do this. 380 00:11:50,377 --> 00:11:51,961 Yeah, it's hard. 381 00:11:52,003 --> 00:11:54,506 - Have you talked to your mom about the circumcision? 382 00:11:54,547 --> 00:11:56,383 - She wasn't part of it. - No. 383 00:11:56,424 --> 00:11:57,425 - She wasn't part of it. 384 00:11:57,467 --> 00:11:58,802 She didn't even know that happened 385 00:11:58,843 --> 00:12:02,138 because I was sent to visit my aunt and my grandma, 386 00:12:02,180 --> 00:12:04,265 and I liked visiting my aunt because she would make 387 00:12:04,307 --> 00:12:06,267 these really nice pancakes in the morning. 388 00:12:06,309 --> 00:12:07,727 So, I thought it was, like, a beautiful vacation 389 00:12:07,769 --> 00:12:08,978 to visit my aunt. 390 00:12:09,020 --> 00:12:10,939 And then at 6 a.m., they just woke us up 391 00:12:10,980 --> 00:12:12,649 and took us somewhere, and they just 392 00:12:12,691 --> 00:12:14,317 put us on the table and tied us up, 393 00:12:14,359 --> 00:12:15,777 and then I hear my sister screaming. 394 00:12:15,819 --> 00:12:17,529 I'm screaming. I don't know what's happening. 395 00:12:17,570 --> 00:12:18,947 They tie my legs. 396 00:12:18,988 --> 00:12:20,156 I don't know what the (BLEEP) is going on 397 00:12:20,198 --> 00:12:22,158 because you're five years old. 398 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,160 What the (BLEEP), as a five-year-old, do you know? 399 00:12:24,202 --> 00:12:26,162 How are we-- how am I supposed to fight anybody 400 00:12:26,204 --> 00:12:28,206 when they're tying my legs as a five year ----ing old? 401 00:12:28,248 --> 00:12:29,958 - Oh, don't-don't talk about it. 402 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,876 - You deserve not to be violated as a child. 403 00:12:31,918 --> 00:12:32,836 - Yeah. - Yeah. 404 00:12:32,877 --> 00:12:33,962 - Yeah, you know, and-- - Yes. 405 00:12:34,004 --> 00:12:34,838 - And completely mutilated and violated. 406 00:12:34,879 --> 00:12:36,256 - It's disgusting. - Yeah. 407 00:12:36,297 --> 00:12:39,134 - As a helpless kid who cannot fight for themselves. 408 00:12:39,175 --> 00:12:41,136 - What about your relationship with your aunt? 409 00:12:41,177 --> 00:12:43,388 - My aunt, right now, actually is one of the people 410 00:12:43,430 --> 00:12:45,849 that has a really big NGO to stop female geni-- 411 00:12:45,890 --> 00:12:48,059 uh, mutilation for girls. - Wow. 412 00:12:48,101 --> 00:12:49,978 - Yeah. - Oh, so, she's really-- 413 00:12:50,020 --> 00:12:51,855 - She's the one that's now really doing it. 414 00:12:51,896 --> 00:12:54,441 She even got, uh, crowned by the Queen of Norway 415 00:12:54,482 --> 00:12:57,068 for her job of helping the young girls. 416 00:12:57,110 --> 00:12:59,988 So, sometimes I do have a lot of resentment towards her 417 00:13:00,030 --> 00:13:02,365 and a lot of pain towards her. 418 00:13:02,407 --> 00:13:03,658 - But she's trying to make it right, 419 00:13:03,700 --> 00:13:04,909 it sounds like. - Yeah, she's trying to, like, 420 00:13:04,951 --> 00:13:06,244 do a lot of good things with that-- 421 00:13:06,286 --> 00:13:07,871 a lot of good things with that. 422 00:13:07,912 --> 00:13:10,790 - Having gone through this mutilation-- 423 00:13:10,832 --> 00:13:12,250 - No, uh, mine wasn't mutilation. 424 00:13:12,292 --> 00:13:13,251 - Okay. 425 00:13:13,293 --> 00:13:14,210 - So, there's three types, right? 426 00:13:14,252 --> 00:13:15,378 - Okay. - They cut you, this-- 427 00:13:15,420 --> 00:13:16,504 I don't know what it's called in English. 428 00:13:16,546 --> 00:13:18,673 - Your labias. - Yes, they, uh, do that. 429 00:13:18,715 --> 00:13:19,966 Mine, they didn't cut it. 430 00:13:20,008 --> 00:13:21,426 They just sew it, but I still have my clitoris, 431 00:13:21,468 --> 00:13:23,428 thank God, 'cause I love pleasure. 432 00:13:23,470 --> 00:13:28,433 But there's some people that they cut that up, 433 00:13:28,475 --> 00:13:30,518 and then there's some people they removed completely, 434 00:13:30,560 --> 00:13:33,938 which causes a lot of issues in their body. 435 00:13:33,980 --> 00:13:35,357 - Right, of course. Yes. 436 00:13:35,398 --> 00:13:37,901 - Hormone problems, not having kids, depression. 437 00:13:37,942 --> 00:13:39,110 - I mean, this is a personal question 438 00:13:39,152 --> 00:13:40,195 that you don't have to answer. 439 00:13:40,236 --> 00:13:41,529 - No, you can ask me anything. I'm-- 440 00:13:41,571 --> 00:13:42,906 - But I'm just curious. 441 00:13:42,947 --> 00:13:44,866 Did having that happen to you 442 00:13:44,908 --> 00:13:47,035 affect your intimacy with your husband 443 00:13:47,077 --> 00:13:48,745 and your ability to be intimate and to trust him? 444 00:13:48,787 --> 00:13:51,498 - No. So-so, uh, 445 00:13:51,539 --> 00:13:55,502 beginning of our relationship, I would hide in the bathroom 446 00:13:55,543 --> 00:13:58,046 while I take shower. I would always lock the door. 447 00:13:58,088 --> 00:13:59,631 He would not understand that 448 00:13:59,673 --> 00:14:01,299 because I was sleeping with him in the bed, hugging, before. 449 00:14:01,341 --> 00:14:03,218 And then, of course, we got married, 450 00:14:03,259 --> 00:14:06,054 and I was still, like, completely not open, 451 00:14:06,096 --> 00:14:07,847 so we couldn't have sex or anything, 452 00:14:07,889 --> 00:14:11,017 even when I was married because I was living in Brazil married. 453 00:14:11,059 --> 00:14:12,227 So, doctors in Brazil 454 00:14:12,268 --> 00:14:13,895 didn't understand what was going on, 455 00:14:13,937 --> 00:14:15,105 and they didn't wanna do anything, 456 00:14:15,146 --> 00:14:17,774 so I had to fly back to Kenya and then go 457 00:14:17,816 --> 00:14:19,275 to do another surgery, which people-- 458 00:14:19,317 --> 00:14:22,404 which I'm lucky because my husband paid for that. 459 00:14:22,445 --> 00:14:24,322 And so, when I was younger, I was having issues, 460 00:14:24,364 --> 00:14:26,116 but now no, no. I ----ing love to (BLEEP). 461 00:14:26,157 --> 00:14:28,368 Don't I talk about it all the time on T-TV? 462 00:14:28,410 --> 00:14:30,787 I do my husband all the time. - Oh, God. 463 00:14:30,829 --> 00:14:33,081 - Okay, well, we've established that. 464 00:14:33,123 --> 00:14:34,791 - I mean, you have to find some humor 465 00:14:34,833 --> 00:14:35,583 in everything you go through in life. 466 00:14:35,625 --> 00:14:36,710 - Yeah. - Yeah. 467 00:14:36,751 --> 00:14:39,421 - It doesn't mean that I forget my pain. 468 00:14:39,462 --> 00:14:42,590 - What made you wanna open up so publicly 469 00:14:42,632 --> 00:14:44,592 about your childhood trauma? 470 00:14:44,634 --> 00:14:47,262 - Actually, Sara. Sara. 471 00:14:47,303 --> 00:14:49,139 I went to visit Sara, and it was so easy 472 00:14:49,180 --> 00:14:51,683 to talk to her about my pain and stuff. 473 00:14:51,725 --> 00:14:54,102 You know, and this is happening to my cousin's kid 474 00:14:54,144 --> 00:14:56,271 a few weeks ago. They say it's religious. 475 00:14:56,312 --> 00:14:57,939 It's not, 'cause I'm Muslim. I grew up Muslim. 476 00:14:57,981 --> 00:15:00,275 It's not in any-any-any of my book. 477 00:15:00,316 --> 00:15:03,111 So, me talking about it is, I wanna help people, 478 00:15:03,153 --> 00:15:04,696 if I can stop it. 479 00:15:04,738 --> 00:15:07,991 This is a sexual abuse to young kids that have no, uh, 480 00:15:08,033 --> 00:15:10,076 power to speak for themselves. 481 00:15:10,118 --> 00:15:12,746 - Sara, what made you think that the hypnotherapy 482 00:15:12,787 --> 00:15:14,205 would help her? 483 00:15:14,247 --> 00:15:16,875 - Because hypnotherapy goes to your subconscious mind, 484 00:15:16,916 --> 00:15:20,045 and that's all your memories packed in boxes back there 485 00:15:20,086 --> 00:15:21,463 that you cannot reach on your own. 486 00:15:21,504 --> 00:15:23,048 - Thank you for that, by the way. 487 00:15:23,089 --> 00:15:24,299 - You're welcome. 488 00:15:24,341 --> 00:15:26,009 - Honestly, after that thing, I called you, 489 00:15:26,051 --> 00:15:28,094 and I said, "Thank you," because I went home, 490 00:15:28,136 --> 00:15:30,555 and I felt like I had ten kilos of my body out. 491 00:15:30,597 --> 00:15:32,307 So, I'm really sorry you felt like I judged you 492 00:15:32,349 --> 00:15:33,808 by saying you're judgmental and stuff. 493 00:15:33,850 --> 00:15:35,268 But honestly, I love you. 494 00:15:35,310 --> 00:15:36,770 I have a really good time with you, 495 00:15:36,811 --> 00:15:38,146 and I'm sorry if I hurt you. 496 00:15:38,188 --> 00:15:39,689 - But, Ayan, listen. I'll tell you something. 497 00:15:39,731 --> 00:15:42,317 People who are on survival mode, unknowingly, 498 00:15:42,359 --> 00:15:43,818 they think it's them against the world, 499 00:15:43,860 --> 00:15:46,488 and everything is coming at them and trying to attack them. 500 00:15:46,529 --> 00:15:47,572 - Yeah. 501 00:15:47,614 --> 00:15:48,490 - Well, this is really interesting. 502 00:15:48,531 --> 00:15:49,741 - Yeah. - Yeah, Sara. Yeah. 503 00:15:49,783 --> 00:15:50,909 - Because I was gonna ask you how you think 504 00:15:50,950 --> 00:15:53,495 going through this trauma has affected you. 505 00:15:53,536 --> 00:15:55,622 Do you think that you walk through the world 506 00:15:55,663 --> 00:15:58,291 wearing an armor about you? - Armor, yeah. 507 00:15:58,333 --> 00:15:59,959 - That you feel like you have to-- 508 00:16:00,001 --> 00:16:01,169 - I mean, I don't-- I don't trust people. 509 00:16:01,211 --> 00:16:03,004 - Okay. - I've never trusted people. 510 00:16:03,046 --> 00:16:03,922 - Same. - That makes sense. 511 00:16:03,963 --> 00:16:04,964 - Because people that loves me 512 00:16:05,006 --> 00:16:06,466 did the most horrific things to me, 513 00:16:06,508 --> 00:16:08,510 not people that I didn't know. - Same. 514 00:16:08,551 --> 00:16:09,803 - Yeah. 515 00:16:09,844 --> 00:16:11,137 - So, it's like I walk, of course, with, like, 516 00:16:11,179 --> 00:16:13,848 shield on me because I'm just used to being like, 517 00:16:13,890 --> 00:16:15,642 oh, what are you gonna say? What are you gonna do? 518 00:16:15,684 --> 00:16:20,689 And then I use my humor to always not wanna deal with, 519 00:16:20,730 --> 00:16:23,108 like, deal with things that I need to deal with, you know. 520 00:16:23,149 --> 00:16:24,776 - Yeah, yeah. 521 00:16:24,818 --> 00:16:27,195 So, switching gears, you model, and you're also a model booker. 522 00:16:27,237 --> 00:16:28,530 - Yes. I used to model a lot. - She has an agency. 523 00:16:28,571 --> 00:16:29,989 - You're-you're-- you have your own agency. 524 00:16:30,031 --> 00:16:31,074 - Yeah. - Yes, yes. 525 00:16:31,116 --> 00:16:33,076 Clients love me 'cause I'm on stage. 526 00:16:33,118 --> 00:16:35,787 I killed it. I'm, like, I imagine I'm Iman, 527 00:16:35,829 --> 00:16:38,957 Beyonce, Nicki Minaj, Rihanna. 528 00:16:38,998 --> 00:16:41,084 Uh, Naomi Campbell takes over my body. 529 00:16:41,126 --> 00:16:42,669 I studied Naomi Campbell's walk. 530 00:16:42,711 --> 00:16:45,213 Maybe she's gonna be like bitch steals my look, you know. 531 00:16:45,255 --> 00:16:47,132 - And do you ever wear sweatpants? 532 00:16:47,173 --> 00:16:48,383 - Yeah. - When? 533 00:16:48,425 --> 00:16:50,051 - When I went to-to wear my-- - To the movies. 534 00:16:50,093 --> 00:16:51,428 - The movies? - To the-- yeah, Lesa has-- 535 00:16:51,469 --> 00:16:53,179 Lesa has the worst pictures of me that I send her. 536 00:16:53,221 --> 00:16:54,097 - Really? - Yeah. 537 00:16:54,139 --> 00:16:54,848 - So, you wear-- - And Havaianas. 538 00:16:54,889 --> 00:16:55,849 - Havaianas. - Really? 539 00:16:55,890 --> 00:16:57,308 - Yes. - Okay. 540 00:16:57,350 --> 00:16:59,477 Nina, Valerie from Seattle wants to know your reaction 541 00:16:59,519 --> 00:17:03,398 to hearing Ayan call your style mashed potatoes with no butter. 542 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:04,482 - Actually, I wanna apologize. 543 00:17:04,524 --> 00:17:05,442 I don't even remember saying that. 544 00:17:05,483 --> 00:17:06,985 - Yeah. I-I wanna ask you why. 545 00:17:07,027 --> 00:17:10,238 You came out to take me to lunch to apologize for the dinner, 546 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:11,573 and that's when it came out. 547 00:17:11,614 --> 00:17:13,366 - But didn't I apologize for the dinner? 548 00:17:13,408 --> 00:17:14,784 I was a good person. I always apologize. 549 00:17:14,826 --> 00:17:16,411 - But you apologized, but then you made me feel guilty 550 00:17:16,453 --> 00:17:18,663 that I wasn't being a good friend. 551 00:17:18,705 --> 00:17:21,249 - I just wanted to apologize because, honestly, 552 00:17:21,291 --> 00:17:23,752 you worked so hard on that dinner. 553 00:17:23,793 --> 00:17:25,295 - Yeah. 554 00:17:25,337 --> 00:17:26,713 - I just don't know what happened, to be honest. 555 00:17:26,755 --> 00:17:28,298 - I know. I know. - Stanbury kept on saying, 556 00:17:28,340 --> 00:17:29,924 "I don't like you. I don't like you." 557 00:17:29,966 --> 00:17:31,259 You know, and I-I was really worried 558 00:17:31,301 --> 00:17:32,761 why you didn't stand up for me. 559 00:17:32,802 --> 00:17:35,180 I came to that dinner because I know you, 560 00:17:35,221 --> 00:17:38,058 and I had issues with Stanbury and Brooks. 561 00:17:38,099 --> 00:17:40,435 So, I didn't understand why you sat there 562 00:17:40,477 --> 00:17:42,771 and didn't say anything like, "Girls, stop it," 563 00:17:42,812 --> 00:17:45,940 because you kind of made me feel like I was wrong 564 00:17:45,982 --> 00:17:48,943 when I was bullied. Bullied! 565 00:17:48,985 --> 00:17:51,696 ** 566 00:17:51,738 --> 00:17:53,448 - Coming up... 567 00:17:53,490 --> 00:17:55,450 - I know there was a very strong story 568 00:17:55,492 --> 00:17:57,994 about getting rid of me out of this friend group, 569 00:17:58,036 --> 00:17:58,661 and I think-- - Hmm? 570 00:17:58,703 --> 00:17:59,704 - Huh. - Yeah. 571 00:17:59,746 --> 00:18:01,289 - That is not true. Swear to my kid. 572 00:18:01,331 --> 00:18:02,999 Who told you that? Who told you? 573 00:18:11,341 --> 00:18:12,467 - You kind of made me feel like I was wrong 574 00:18:13,843 --> 00:18:15,637 when I was bullied. 575 00:18:15,679 --> 00:18:16,888 Bullied! - Listen. All of you were wrong. 576 00:18:16,930 --> 00:18:17,889 - Oh, wait. Whoa, whoa, whoa. 577 00:18:17,931 --> 00:18:19,015 - Bullied! - All of you were wrong, 578 00:18:19,057 --> 00:18:20,266 first of all. - I did not-- 579 00:18:20,308 --> 00:18:21,393 I did not attack you. - Not you. [indistinct]. 580 00:18:21,434 --> 00:18:22,686 - Hold on. - I was-- I was poking you. 581 00:18:22,727 --> 00:18:23,728 - Can I-- can I finish? - I didn't attack you. 582 00:18:23,770 --> 00:18:25,230 - Hold on. Let me. - Can I finish? 583 00:18:25,271 --> 00:18:26,690 - We went back and forth. - I felt bullied. Did I finish? 584 00:18:26,731 --> 00:18:28,149 - So, back to the dinner, you said I didn't defend you. 585 00:18:28,191 --> 00:18:29,192 I didn't stop-- first of all, you know how many times 586 00:18:29,234 --> 00:18:30,026 I had to stop it? - She said to me-- 587 00:18:30,068 --> 00:18:31,361 - C'est la vie. - Yeah. 588 00:18:31,403 --> 00:18:32,570 - She did say, "Stop," but you couldn't hear her. 589 00:18:32,612 --> 00:18:33,196 - But when you were yelling and screaming, 590 00:18:33,238 --> 00:18:34,406 you can't hear me. 591 00:18:34,447 --> 00:18:35,740 - Don't lie. - Yes, you didn't contact me, 592 00:18:35,782 --> 00:18:37,075 if I did receive an invite for the birthday or not. 593 00:18:37,117 --> 00:18:37,951 - Ayan, don't lie. Hold on a minute. No, no, no. 594 00:18:37,992 --> 00:18:39,160 - Ladies. Ladies! - My turn. 595 00:18:39,202 --> 00:18:40,286 - And you said to me that I wasn't invited 596 00:18:40,328 --> 00:18:41,579 because I wasn't important. - My turn. 597 00:18:41,621 --> 00:18:43,039 - Ladies, even though I shut this place down, 598 00:18:43,081 --> 00:18:43,748 there are still people working. - I am very important! 599 00:18:43,790 --> 00:18:45,208 - Ayan, shut up. 600 00:18:45,250 --> 00:18:46,584 - We were shouting so loud that no one could hear her. 601 00:18:46,626 --> 00:18:47,794 She was going, "Stop, stop, stop." 602 00:18:47,836 --> 00:18:49,421 - She was saying, "Stop," but we were-- 603 00:18:49,462 --> 00:18:50,964 - But you took that-- - Yeah, but when we were at lunch, 604 00:18:51,006 --> 00:18:53,591 I wish you had said to me, "Ayan, what happened yesterday? 605 00:18:53,633 --> 00:18:55,552 "Also, I'm so sorry, this is what happened. 606 00:18:55,593 --> 00:18:57,470 "I wish that it didn't happen the way it happened. 607 00:18:57,512 --> 00:18:59,014 "What do you think? Are you okay?" 608 00:18:59,055 --> 00:19:00,056 - But why do-- why-- but why am I apologizing to you, though? 609 00:19:00,098 --> 00:19:01,683 - You never asked me if I was okay, 610 00:19:01,725 --> 00:19:02,767 and I've asked you many times if you're okay with your stuff. 611 00:19:02,809 --> 00:19:03,977 - But, obviously, I came to meet you. 612 00:19:04,019 --> 00:19:05,020 - That's what I wanted to say. - Why? Why? 613 00:19:05,061 --> 00:19:06,479 - Because your-your body language. 614 00:19:06,521 --> 00:19:07,897 I don't even know if you actually know 615 00:19:07,939 --> 00:19:10,108 you come very hard, very fast. And now I've understood. 616 00:19:10,150 --> 00:19:12,694 You know, like, as I said, when I speak, 617 00:19:12,736 --> 00:19:15,363 it's always you assume the worst straightaway. 618 00:19:15,405 --> 00:19:16,489 - Accepted. - But I do think, 619 00:19:16,531 --> 00:19:17,991 you know, also, the backstory for me, 620 00:19:18,033 --> 00:19:21,161 I know there was a very strong story about, you know, 621 00:19:21,202 --> 00:19:23,204 getting rid of me out of this friend group, 622 00:19:23,246 --> 00:19:23,872 and I think-- - Hmm? 623 00:19:23,913 --> 00:19:24,789 - Huh? - Yeah. 624 00:19:24,831 --> 00:19:25,999 - What? - That is not true. 625 00:19:26,041 --> 00:19:27,459 Swear to my kid. - Yes, it was, 626 00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:28,793 'cause I was a part of it. 627 00:19:28,835 --> 00:19:30,420 Before we started filming this show, 628 00:19:30,462 --> 00:19:32,380 conversations were had, like, saying that, basically, 629 00:19:32,422 --> 00:19:33,506 you were going around telling everybody 630 00:19:33,548 --> 00:19:35,300 you're, like, the queen of this show. 631 00:19:35,342 --> 00:19:37,552 It was discussed that she thinks she's the queen bee. 632 00:19:37,594 --> 00:19:38,970 She thinks she's gonna run it. 633 00:19:39,012 --> 00:19:41,473 - You told me she thinks the show is about her. 634 00:19:41,514 --> 00:19:42,682 - Yes, 'cause she told me. 635 00:19:42,724 --> 00:19:43,683 - "Let's-let's come together and show her 636 00:19:43,725 --> 00:19:44,893 "that the show is not about her." 637 00:19:44,934 --> 00:19:46,436 - Yeah, but that's completely different. 638 00:19:46,478 --> 00:19:47,771 - No, I said-- yeah, but that's not trying 639 00:19:47,812 --> 00:19:49,064 to get out of this show, Sara! - That's different 640 00:19:49,105 --> 00:19:50,273 than getting rid. - That's completely different 641 00:19:50,315 --> 00:19:51,775 to what she just said. - You said-- right. 642 00:19:51,816 --> 00:19:53,068 No, that-that is different. - That is not. That's a lie. 643 00:19:53,109 --> 00:19:54,069 So many lies have been told. That's ridiculous. 644 00:19:54,110 --> 00:19:55,278 Never happened. - But I will say, 645 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,782 there was interest from Bravo in following-- 646 00:19:58,823 --> 00:20:02,327 she had a whole new life in Dubai, and she was, 647 00:20:02,369 --> 00:20:05,205 uh, an anchor, I think, of us wanting 648 00:20:05,246 --> 00:20:06,164 to come to the show. - Yeah, she told us. 649 00:20:06,206 --> 00:20:07,374 Yes, yes, yes. - Nina, fix it. 650 00:20:07,415 --> 00:20:08,375 - So, I think that-that would be truthful. 651 00:20:08,416 --> 00:20:09,626 - Yes. - She gets it. 652 00:20:09,668 --> 00:20:11,127 - When you're saying I'm saying I'm queen bee, 653 00:20:11,169 --> 00:20:13,546 other people said it for me, too, just because they know 654 00:20:13,588 --> 00:20:14,881 I had a-- - I don't have an-- listen. 655 00:20:14,923 --> 00:20:16,174 - Well, that has changed. - I don't have an issue 656 00:20:16,216 --> 00:20:17,842 for you being a queen bee because, to be honest, 657 00:20:17,884 --> 00:20:19,344 everyone sitting here is a queen bee. 658 00:20:19,386 --> 00:20:20,303 - We're all queens. - That's my opinion, right? 659 00:20:20,345 --> 00:20:22,931 - Yes, yes. Okay. I wanna move on. 660 00:20:22,972 --> 00:20:25,934 The ladies of Dubai answer to no one except, that is, 661 00:20:25,975 --> 00:20:27,435 their offspring. 662 00:20:27,477 --> 00:20:30,397 Let's take a look at the real kids of Dubai. 663 00:20:30,438 --> 00:20:32,023 [laughing] 664 00:20:32,065 --> 00:20:34,025 - Don't you think it's so cute how our kids have, 665 00:20:34,067 --> 00:20:35,443 three different accents? 666 00:20:35,485 --> 00:20:37,362 Max, say, "Water." - Water. 667 00:20:37,404 --> 00:20:38,530 - Sebie, say, "Water." 668 00:20:38,571 --> 00:20:39,781 Say, "Water." - Water. 669 00:20:39,823 --> 00:20:41,616 - Christian, he has a Jamaican accent. 670 00:20:41,658 --> 00:20:42,784 - Water. 671 00:20:42,826 --> 00:20:44,744 [laughing] 672 00:20:44,786 --> 00:20:47,038 - You're cooking? - I'm making you lunch. 673 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:48,540 Taste it. No, it's good. 674 00:20:52,043 --> 00:20:53,294 - Can you get me water? 675 00:20:53,336 --> 00:20:54,713 - Ditch the knee thing. 676 00:20:54,754 --> 00:20:57,090 The knee thing makes me wanna gouge my own eyes out. 677 00:20:57,132 --> 00:20:57,966 - Look, even Taz is embarrassed. 678 00:20:58,008 --> 00:20:59,300 - Have you seen how it looks? 679 00:20:59,342 --> 00:21:00,844 - Ahh! - Oh, wow! 680 00:21:00,885 --> 00:21:03,638 - Oh, how cute! - Yasmine is savage. 681 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,308 - I try to ground my children as much as possible. 682 00:21:07,350 --> 00:21:09,728 Compared to the other friends that I have, 683 00:21:09,769 --> 00:21:13,481 my kids live a very humble life. 684 00:21:13,523 --> 00:21:15,191 - What kind of job are you gonna get, 685 00:21:15,233 --> 00:21:17,027 so you can buy me a Ferrari every year? 686 00:21:17,068 --> 00:21:18,153 - I don't like Ferraris. - "I don't like Ferraris." 687 00:21:18,194 --> 00:21:20,363 But I do. 688 00:21:22,699 --> 00:21:23,908 - That was funny. - Oh, I died. 689 00:21:23,950 --> 00:21:25,243 - Yeah, that was funny. - Oh, really? Okay. 690 00:21:25,285 --> 00:21:26,536 When I come home, I'm gonna check this homework. 691 00:21:26,578 --> 00:21:27,537 - A dog ate it. 692 00:21:27,579 --> 00:21:29,914 - Um, but, um-- - It got damaged. 693 00:21:32,375 --> 00:21:33,084 [laughing] - Let me guess. 694 00:21:33,126 --> 00:21:34,627 A dog ate your book. 695 00:21:36,379 --> 00:21:37,714 [laughing] - Aww. 696 00:21:37,756 --> 00:21:39,341 - Oh, my baby. He's so cute. 697 00:21:39,382 --> 00:21:41,676 - Where does he get his sense of humor from? 698 00:21:41,718 --> 00:21:43,053 Yeah. - From his mother. 699 00:21:43,094 --> 00:21:45,597 - Um, have you made any progress teaching him, 700 00:21:45,638 --> 00:21:47,349 uh, about his culture, or is he still resistant? 701 00:21:47,390 --> 00:21:48,850 - Yeah. 702 00:21:48,892 --> 00:21:51,436 I mean, he's moody about it. Sometimes he'll accept it, 703 00:21:51,478 --> 00:21:54,397 sometimes not, but, I mean, he knows a lot. 704 00:21:54,439 --> 00:21:55,690 He just acts like he doesn't. 705 00:21:55,732 --> 00:21:58,234 - Stanbury, you shared your story of being 706 00:21:58,276 --> 00:21:59,819 in boarding school. 707 00:21:59,861 --> 00:22:03,239 How has that impacted the type of parent 708 00:22:03,281 --> 00:22:04,908 that you are to them, to your kids? 709 00:22:04,949 --> 00:22:07,994 - Um, well, I know I wouldn't send them away like that. 710 00:22:08,036 --> 00:22:09,162 - Right. - You know, 711 00:22:09,204 --> 00:22:10,497 I wouldn't send them to boarding school. 712 00:22:10,538 --> 00:22:11,623 They-they, you know, they've-- they would choose, 713 00:22:11,664 --> 00:22:13,333 if they ever went-- wanted to go. 714 00:22:13,375 --> 00:22:16,211 But I'm-- I think I'm a lot more affectionate with them, 715 00:22:16,252 --> 00:22:18,546 but I still do find it hard 716 00:22:18,588 --> 00:22:20,882 because I don't know how to do it so much. 717 00:22:20,924 --> 00:22:22,759 Like, I mean, you know, when the baby comes out, 718 00:22:22,801 --> 00:22:24,928 and everyone immediately says you're gonna be attached? 719 00:22:24,969 --> 00:22:26,471 That definitely didn't happen for me. 720 00:22:26,513 --> 00:22:28,390 - Yeah. - And, you know, I'm a workaholic. 721 00:22:28,431 --> 00:22:31,559 At that stage, you know, I prioritized work. 722 00:22:31,601 --> 00:22:34,145 Um, so, yeah, I think, actually, I'm really excited. 723 00:22:34,187 --> 00:22:35,397 If I do do it with Sergio, 724 00:22:35,438 --> 00:22:36,481 I'd do a lot of things differently, as well. 725 00:22:36,523 --> 00:22:39,442 - Hmm, yeah. Nina, um, you know, 726 00:22:39,484 --> 00:22:40,985 you talk about keeping your kids grounded. 727 00:22:41,027 --> 00:22:41,945 - Yes. 728 00:22:41,986 --> 00:22:42,946 - While you're doing a sleepover 729 00:22:42,987 --> 00:22:44,364 in an $8,000 a night hotel room. 730 00:22:44,406 --> 00:22:45,573 - Yeah, why not? - Yeah. 731 00:22:45,615 --> 00:22:48,368 - Uh, is it possible not to spoil your kids 732 00:22:48,410 --> 00:22:49,786 when you're living in a lotta luxury? 733 00:22:49,828 --> 00:22:51,454 - Well, I-- listen. I spoil them with things that are, 734 00:22:51,496 --> 00:22:52,914 like, that create memories. 735 00:22:52,956 --> 00:22:55,417 Anything that creates memories for my kids, 736 00:22:55,458 --> 00:22:57,085 that, to me, is priceless. 737 00:22:57,127 --> 00:23:00,088 - Has Taj-- uh, have you made more-- any more peace 738 00:23:00,130 --> 00:23:01,798 with him going to college? 739 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,758 - No. We-- he just literally told me a few days ago 740 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,677 that he can't wait to go with me. 741 00:23:05,719 --> 00:23:07,512 If you watch in the movies, they drink beer. 742 00:23:07,554 --> 00:23:08,847 They party all day. - Yeah, they do keg stands. 743 00:23:08,888 --> 00:23:10,015 I'd love to see you do a keg stand. 744 00:23:10,056 --> 00:23:11,558 - I've been to that. - I don't think that 745 00:23:11,599 --> 00:23:14,227 that's gonna go well for him, if he brings you to school. 746 00:23:14,269 --> 00:23:16,438 - Oh, it's gonna go well. - Imagine Ayan doing beer pong 747 00:23:16,479 --> 00:23:17,439 in couture. - Oh, yeah. 748 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:18,982 Oh, I'm gonna do that. 749 00:23:19,024 --> 00:23:20,567 - How is his modeling career going? 750 00:23:20,608 --> 00:23:22,068 - The kid does very well. 751 00:23:22,110 --> 00:23:24,404 And when he was younger, he would do campaigns 752 00:23:24,446 --> 00:23:26,614 for billboards everywhere, and he loved it. 753 00:23:26,656 --> 00:23:28,283 Then someday, he's like, "Mom, this is not my thing." 754 00:23:28,324 --> 00:23:29,492 I'm like, "No problem." 755 00:23:29,534 --> 00:23:30,910 Sometimes he goes, "This is my thing." 756 00:23:30,952 --> 00:23:33,621 So, right now, he feels like it's kind of his thing, 757 00:23:33,663 --> 00:23:35,957 so let's how long it's gonna last. 758 00:23:35,999 --> 00:23:38,376 - Sara, what kind of relationship does Maktoum have 759 00:23:38,418 --> 00:23:40,045 with this father? 760 00:23:40,086 --> 00:23:41,254 - Hmm. 761 00:23:41,296 --> 00:23:43,298 They don't have a very close relationship. 762 00:23:43,340 --> 00:23:45,175 He barely sees him. 763 00:23:45,216 --> 00:23:46,468 - Hmm. - But when he does, 764 00:23:46,509 --> 00:23:48,303 I mean, he's a good dad, but I'm the one who takes 765 00:23:48,345 --> 00:23:52,057 complete, like, full, uh, care of the kid financially 766 00:23:52,098 --> 00:23:53,600 and everything. 767 00:23:53,641 --> 00:23:56,478 - What is it like being a single mom in the UAE for you? 768 00:23:56,519 --> 00:23:58,563 Do you-- do people judge you? 769 00:23:58,605 --> 00:24:00,273 Is it hard? 770 00:24:00,315 --> 00:24:02,359 - You have people that get it, and they don't care, 771 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:03,485 and you have people that judge you, 772 00:24:03,526 --> 00:24:04,652 and they go, like, "Oh, not only once. 773 00:24:04,694 --> 00:24:06,529 "She's-she's divorced twice. 774 00:24:06,571 --> 00:24:08,698 "You know, maybe something is wrong with her." 775 00:24:08,740 --> 00:24:11,326 And people don't-- they don't look at the story. 776 00:24:11,368 --> 00:24:12,660 They always blame the woman. - Hmm. 777 00:24:12,702 --> 00:24:13,953 - You know, she's the reason, always. 778 00:24:13,995 --> 00:24:16,581 He's a man. It's okay. That's toxic masculinity. 779 00:24:16,623 --> 00:24:18,458 But, uh, I don't care. 780 00:24:18,500 --> 00:24:19,751 I'll get divorced four times, if I have to, 781 00:24:19,793 --> 00:24:20,627 to find the right one. - Got it. 782 00:24:20,669 --> 00:24:22,087 - I-I'm gonna find her a guy. 783 00:24:22,128 --> 00:24:23,254 - You are? - We tried to find her one. 784 00:24:23,296 --> 00:24:24,589 - I wanna find her one. - She promised. 785 00:24:24,631 --> 00:24:25,674 She was like, "I'm gonna find you a husband," but-- 786 00:24:25,715 --> 00:24:26,383 - Really? - I need to find a good one. 787 00:24:26,424 --> 00:24:27,717 - Sergio has promised. 788 00:24:27,759 --> 00:24:29,594 They-- he-- she's become very close with Sergio. 789 00:24:29,636 --> 00:24:30,637 - And Sergio promised. - Oh, really? 790 00:24:30,679 --> 00:24:31,763 - Very close, so they talk a lot. 791 00:24:31,805 --> 00:24:32,847 [indistinct chatter] 792 00:24:32,889 --> 00:24:34,140 - I wanna find someone like my husband. 793 00:24:34,182 --> 00:24:35,058 - Hold on. You've become very close with Sergio? 794 00:24:35,100 --> 00:24:36,059 - I love Sergio. He's my brother. 795 00:24:36,101 --> 00:24:37,143 - Me, too. I love Sergio. - Really? 796 00:24:37,185 --> 00:24:38,645 - He's my baby brother. 797 00:24:38,687 --> 00:24:40,563 Whatever you guys find me, make sure he's not a narcissist. 798 00:24:40,605 --> 00:24:42,399 - You should go to Africa. [laughing] 799 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:43,483 - Oh, my God. - Girl. 800 00:24:43,525 --> 00:24:44,442 - Brooks should take you to Africa. 801 00:24:44,484 --> 00:24:45,485 There's a lot of good men there. 802 00:24:45,527 --> 00:24:46,695 - Brooks, what are we waiting for? 803 00:24:46,736 --> 00:24:48,279 - Sara, Gemma from San Francisco, California 804 00:24:48,321 --> 00:24:53,201 said, "The word in the desert is that you dated '365 Days' star 805 00:24:53,243 --> 00:24:54,577 "Michele Morrone." - No. 806 00:24:54,619 --> 00:24:56,538 I was his manager and business partner. 807 00:24:56,579 --> 00:24:57,956 - Oh, really? - Yeah. 808 00:24:57,997 --> 00:25:00,375 - But he got your name tattooed on himself? 809 00:25:00,417 --> 00:25:01,710 - No, it's not my name. 810 00:25:01,751 --> 00:25:03,628 It's a name of, like, a goddaughter he has. 811 00:25:03,670 --> 00:25:04,921 - Okay. - Yeah. 812 00:25:04,963 --> 00:25:06,256 - I mean, I would claim it as mine. 813 00:25:06,297 --> 00:25:07,465 [laughing] - I would, too. 814 00:25:07,507 --> 00:25:08,925 - Oh, take it. - I'd say, isn't it amazing? 815 00:25:08,967 --> 00:25:10,885 - Right. - It's your name. 816 00:25:10,927 --> 00:25:13,638 - Back with more from the Dubai reunion after this. 817 00:25:15,515 --> 00:25:16,725 Coming up... 818 00:25:16,766 --> 00:25:18,685 - I am always gonna look better 819 00:25:18,727 --> 00:25:21,438 than anybody in this world. - Hold on. Hold on. 820 00:25:21,479 --> 00:25:23,064 Did you want to look like the bride? 821 00:25:29,863 --> 00:25:30,572 - Welcome back. I'm Andy. 822 00:25:31,781 --> 00:25:33,867 I'm here with the real housewives of Dubai. 823 00:25:33,908 --> 00:25:37,954 What started with Ayan being iced out of Stanbury's hen party 824 00:25:37,996 --> 00:25:41,041 soon snowballed into a season's long saga 825 00:25:41,082 --> 00:25:44,753 that included Lesa, fashion shows, Ski Dubai, 826 00:25:44,794 --> 00:25:46,546 and even Sergio's penis. 827 00:25:46,588 --> 00:25:48,423 - Blech. - Uh, it's all too much. 828 00:25:48,465 --> 00:25:50,508 Just watch. 829 00:25:50,550 --> 00:25:53,136 - Whoo! 830 00:25:53,178 --> 00:25:54,971 - Congratulations! 831 00:25:55,013 --> 00:25:57,015 - Whoo! - See, here? Loved you here. 832 00:26:01,644 --> 00:26:03,313 - Let's cleanse the energy, ladies. 833 00:26:03,355 --> 00:26:04,689 - Nothing is gonna cleanse this energy. - Apparently, 834 00:26:04,731 --> 00:26:06,274 my cleansing didn't work. - I can't bear this woman. 835 00:26:14,324 --> 00:26:15,742 - That was to him. 836 00:26:15,784 --> 00:26:17,243 - Whenever I think of Caroline Stanbury, it just goes 837 00:26:17,285 --> 00:26:18,119 bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch. 838 00:26:18,161 --> 00:26:19,537 About me. - Her sucking him. 839 00:26:19,579 --> 00:26:21,873 - About her but not to her. - I forgot a word. Bitch. 840 00:26:25,794 --> 00:26:27,045 - Wait. Whoa. 841 00:26:27,087 --> 00:26:28,630 - Okay, I don't feel like it needs to go there. 842 00:26:28,672 --> 00:26:29,381 - Oh, whoa. 843 00:26:29,422 --> 00:26:30,965 - I hate them. 844 00:26:31,007 --> 00:26:33,677 Sergio, like, literally, I hate them. 845 00:26:33,718 --> 00:26:35,679 - I'm tired of it. I'm really tired. 846 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,348 I have to explain 24-7 who I am. 847 00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:39,724 God, I was so tired there. I never slept. 848 00:26:39,766 --> 00:26:40,475 - Caroline gets to call her husband 849 00:26:40,517 --> 00:26:41,518 to come and rescue her. 850 00:26:41,559 --> 00:26:43,186 A white woman is breaking down. 851 00:26:43,228 --> 00:26:44,604 Let's console her. 852 00:26:44,646 --> 00:26:45,689 But a Black girl is breaking down. 853 00:26:45,730 --> 00:26:48,149 Toughen up. You're a strong person. 854 00:26:48,191 --> 00:26:51,152 - All right. [indistinct] on Twitter said, 855 00:26:51,194 --> 00:26:53,905 "What issue did Stanbury actually have with Ayan? 856 00:26:53,947 --> 00:26:55,865 "I don't get it, to this day." - None. None. 857 00:26:55,907 --> 00:26:57,701 She never had any issues with me. 858 00:26:57,742 --> 00:27:00,704 - For me, um, I just-- uh, you're on a boat. 859 00:27:00,745 --> 00:27:02,080 You're limited capacity, 860 00:27:02,122 --> 00:27:04,249 and I invited the closest people to me. That was it. 861 00:27:04,290 --> 00:27:06,042 - I'm very skinny. You know what I mean? 862 00:27:06,084 --> 00:27:07,711 - True, and you don't eat much, 863 00:27:07,752 --> 00:27:08,795 so it would've been fine. - Huh? 864 00:27:08,837 --> 00:27:10,463 - You know, the interesting thing is, 865 00:27:10,505 --> 00:27:14,217 it seems like, had the two of you spoken privately, 866 00:27:14,259 --> 00:27:16,594 you could've worked this thing out 867 00:27:16,636 --> 00:27:18,054 pretty quickly. - Absolutely, 868 00:27:18,096 --> 00:27:20,765 absolutely, absolutely. - Um, instead, 869 00:27:20,807 --> 00:27:22,392 you came in guns blazing. - I-- 870 00:27:22,434 --> 00:27:24,561 - And you told Ayan you couldn't stand her. 871 00:27:24,602 --> 00:27:25,812 - Yeah, I think-- - For no reason. 872 00:27:25,854 --> 00:27:27,272 You don't-- for-- literally, Caroline, 873 00:27:27,313 --> 00:27:29,774 that's what I became upset with you for, like, a while. 874 00:27:29,816 --> 00:27:31,735 First of all, you cut me out of your party. 875 00:27:31,776 --> 00:27:33,653 Not because I felt I wasn't going to it. 876 00:27:33,695 --> 00:27:35,363 I felt, honestly, you secluded me. 877 00:27:35,405 --> 00:27:36,740 - She didn't go either, so-- - I wasn't invited. 878 00:27:36,781 --> 00:27:37,949 - That-- but you didn't know her. 879 00:27:37,991 --> 00:27:39,242 You know me because we share best friends. 880 00:27:39,284 --> 00:27:40,285 We know everybody in common. - No, I actually-- 881 00:27:40,326 --> 00:27:41,745 I actually know her more than you. 882 00:27:41,786 --> 00:27:43,163 - I've done panels with her. I've done panels with her. 883 00:27:43,204 --> 00:27:43,955 - I've done speeches with her. - In Dubai, speeches. 884 00:27:43,997 --> 00:27:44,914 - When? - So many years. 885 00:27:44,956 --> 00:27:46,207 - Before she knew you. - Huh? 886 00:27:46,249 --> 00:27:47,792 - Yeah, before, I promise you. 887 00:27:47,834 --> 00:27:48,793 - That-that I don't know, but it's good that you have that. 888 00:27:48,835 --> 00:27:50,003 - Yeah, yeah. - I didn't know. 889 00:27:50,045 --> 00:27:51,004 But I would have loved to be there 890 00:27:51,046 --> 00:27:52,213 and have fun with everybody, okay? 891 00:27:52,255 --> 00:27:53,340 That was the point. I wasn't upset. 892 00:27:53,381 --> 00:27:54,257 - Right, I'm sorry you felt like that. 893 00:27:54,299 --> 00:27:55,508 - Yes. 894 00:27:55,550 --> 00:27:56,468 - But I felt like you read too much into it. 895 00:27:56,509 --> 00:27:57,635 - No, I didn't, but I was mad 896 00:27:57,677 --> 00:27:59,929 because I was told that I wasn't important. 897 00:27:59,971 --> 00:28:02,057 That is what actually pissed me off more. 898 00:28:02,098 --> 00:28:03,099 - Okay, well, that wasn't me. - Yeah. 899 00:28:03,141 --> 00:28:04,392 - We do have really nice moments. 900 00:28:04,434 --> 00:28:05,810 - Yeah. - But then something triggers her, 901 00:28:05,852 --> 00:28:07,062 and we're back to square one, 902 00:28:07,103 --> 00:28:08,104 and I think that's very difficult. 903 00:28:08,146 --> 00:28:09,481 - And they think Lesa is the trigger. 904 00:28:09,522 --> 00:28:10,690 - Nothing triggers me. - There's this whole thing. 905 00:28:10,732 --> 00:28:12,108 I've heard it in confessional. 906 00:28:12,150 --> 00:28:13,610 - Yes, it's not true. - Like, "Pinky and the Brain" 907 00:28:13,651 --> 00:28:14,819 and then Lesa thinks for her. 908 00:28:14,861 --> 00:28:15,945 - Yeah, no. - I actually talk her 909 00:28:15,987 --> 00:28:17,447 off the ledge nine out of ten times. 910 00:28:17,489 --> 00:28:18,656 - Yeah. - Half the time, 911 00:28:18,698 --> 00:28:19,949 she wants to tweet some things out, 912 00:28:19,991 --> 00:28:21,910 and I'm like, "Girl, stop." - She stops me. 913 00:28:21,951 --> 00:28:22,952 - Oh, really? 914 00:28:22,994 --> 00:28:24,162 - She stops me. - You know? 915 00:28:24,204 --> 00:28:25,789 - Nina, Cheryl from Savannah wants to know 916 00:28:25,830 --> 00:28:27,415 if you think Lesa overreacted 917 00:28:27,457 --> 00:28:29,459 to the suck Sergio's d*** comment. 918 00:28:29,501 --> 00:28:31,419 "Watching the show, it seemed like Stanbury 919 00:28:31,461 --> 00:28:33,088 was kinda jokin' around." 920 00:28:33,129 --> 00:28:35,173 - Well, I mean, uh, I-I-I accept 921 00:28:35,215 --> 00:28:36,758 that I shouldn't have said it 100%. 922 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:37,842 - Yeah, thank you. - Mm-hmm. Absolutely. 923 00:28:37,884 --> 00:28:39,135 - That you were not joking. - Mm-hmm. 924 00:28:39,177 --> 00:28:40,595 - Because I was angry at him. 925 00:28:40,637 --> 00:28:41,888 - But why were you mad? - Yeah. 926 00:28:41,930 --> 00:28:43,473 - You were mad that he was talking to "them." 927 00:28:43,515 --> 00:28:45,600 - Yes, as my husband, he should stay by me. 928 00:28:45,642 --> 00:28:47,268 I was angry at my husband. - Right. 929 00:28:47,310 --> 00:28:49,729 - He was polite. - I said to him, not you, Lesa. 930 00:28:49,771 --> 00:28:51,147 - Polite. - I said, "He." 931 00:28:51,189 --> 00:28:52,357 - He was polite. - She said, "Why don't you do it?" 932 00:28:52,399 --> 00:28:53,566 - You do it. 933 00:28:53,608 --> 00:28:55,485 I hope she's gonna suck your d***. 934 00:28:55,527 --> 00:28:56,903 - I won't. 935 00:28:56,945 --> 00:28:59,364 - So, Nina, do you think that-that Lesa overreacted 936 00:28:59,406 --> 00:29:00,990 to the d*** sucking comment? 937 00:29:01,032 --> 00:29:02,492 - Listen, nobody wants to be told that. 938 00:29:02,534 --> 00:29:03,910 - No. - Right. 939 00:29:03,952 --> 00:29:05,370 - You know, I-I don't wanna be disrespected that way. 940 00:29:05,412 --> 00:29:07,205 - Sara, what did you think of the comment? 941 00:29:07,247 --> 00:29:09,249 - I-I wasn't there when the comment happened. 942 00:29:09,290 --> 00:29:11,042 But later on, when I heard it, 943 00:29:11,084 --> 00:29:12,627 of course, nobody wants to hear that, 944 00:29:12,669 --> 00:29:15,880 but, obviously, if I saw a woman and a wife arguing 945 00:29:15,922 --> 00:29:17,173 because of me-- - We were not arguing. 946 00:29:17,215 --> 00:29:18,341 - Not arguing. - No, no, 947 00:29:18,383 --> 00:29:20,051 h-him and her were arguing-- because of me, 948 00:29:20,093 --> 00:29:21,803 I would back off because I don't wanna-- 949 00:29:21,845 --> 00:29:23,471 - What do you mean? He's at our table. 950 00:29:23,513 --> 00:29:25,015 - Yeah, but-- - And, uh, why would I back off 951 00:29:25,056 --> 00:29:27,017 when I just had a good conversation with her, 952 00:29:27,058 --> 00:29:29,060 telling her we are good? - I think she got more upset when you grabbed his hand. 953 00:29:29,102 --> 00:29:30,645 - No. - Yeah, there was the hand. 954 00:29:30,687 --> 00:29:31,646 I think that's when she said-- - No, the hand happened after. 955 00:29:31,688 --> 00:29:32,856 - No, that happened after. 956 00:29:32,897 --> 00:29:34,315 - Ayan, Robin from Maui said, 957 00:29:34,357 --> 00:29:36,192 "You and Lesa come after Sergio 958 00:29:36,234 --> 00:29:37,694 for getting involved in the girl drama." 959 00:29:37,736 --> 00:29:39,029 - Yes. 960 00:29:39,070 --> 00:29:40,155 - "But you sure stayed quiet when Rich called her 961 00:29:40,196 --> 00:29:42,157 a 50-year-old influencer. 962 00:29:42,198 --> 00:29:43,616 Are you being hypocritical?" 963 00:29:43,658 --> 00:29:44,993 - No, my husband does not get into girl arguments, ever. 964 00:29:45,035 --> 00:29:46,369 - No, no, no, at all-- 965 00:29:46,411 --> 00:29:48,038 at all-- at all. - If you watch the whole clip, 966 00:29:48,079 --> 00:29:49,831 my husband was giving me constructive criticism. 967 00:29:49,873 --> 00:29:51,082 - Yeah, criticism, mm-hmm. 968 00:29:51,124 --> 00:29:53,043 - He was saying, "Be kind. 969 00:29:53,084 --> 00:29:54,252 Be nice." - Mm-hmm. 970 00:29:54,294 --> 00:29:55,879 - That's what he led with. 971 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,714 And basically, he was giving me perspective. 972 00:29:57,756 --> 00:30:00,383 Like, Lesa, you are here. 973 00:30:00,425 --> 00:30:02,260 She is not, right? 974 00:30:02,302 --> 00:30:04,179 - Yeah, yeah. - So, don't stoop to her level. 975 00:30:04,220 --> 00:30:05,680 And I feel like that was valid. 976 00:30:05,722 --> 00:30:07,223 - He was pumping you up. - Yeah. 977 00:30:07,265 --> 00:30:11,770 - Um, Stanbury, I wanna talk about your engagement party 978 00:30:11,811 --> 00:30:15,148 and Chanel's outfit. 979 00:30:15,190 --> 00:30:17,233 Um, Miss B. Nicole on Twitter said, 980 00:30:17,275 --> 00:30:20,320 "How are you mad at a guest that's wearing a wedding dress 981 00:30:20,362 --> 00:30:22,364 when you told all your guests to wear white? 982 00:30:22,405 --> 00:30:24,908 It's a cape and a bodysuit, girl. 983 00:30:24,949 --> 00:30:27,494 Just admit you're threatened by Ayan." 984 00:30:27,535 --> 00:30:29,871 - I think the thing that got me was the train, 985 00:30:29,913 --> 00:30:31,915 more than anything, with the blonde wig. 986 00:30:31,956 --> 00:30:33,583 - Wow, should I fix your train for you? 987 00:30:33,625 --> 00:30:35,585 - Yes. 988 00:30:35,627 --> 00:30:36,961 Thank you. 989 00:30:37,003 --> 00:30:39,130 - If you'd come with your dark hair and the train, 990 00:30:39,172 --> 00:30:41,966 maybe it wouldn't have been such a sort of dig for me, 991 00:30:42,008 --> 00:30:44,636 but I saw the train and the blonde wig first. 992 00:30:44,678 --> 00:30:47,639 - But if she walked into an Emirate wedding looking, 993 00:30:47,681 --> 00:30:49,099 like, better than the bride, they'd kick you out. 994 00:30:49,140 --> 00:30:50,433 - They would kick you out, yeah. 995 00:30:50,475 --> 00:30:51,810 - Yeah, but the thing is, like, I am always gonna 996 00:30:51,851 --> 00:30:53,186 look better than anybody in this world 997 00:30:53,228 --> 00:30:56,147 because I always love to feel good and look good. 998 00:30:56,189 --> 00:30:58,608 Caroline, you kind of bullied me a little bit, 999 00:30:58,650 --> 00:30:59,984 and I was very nice. 1000 00:31:00,026 --> 00:31:03,029 I actually watered myself down for you. 1001 00:31:03,071 --> 00:31:05,323 - But did you want to look like the bride? 1002 00:31:05,365 --> 00:31:07,784 - How can I look like the bride when I look like this, Andy? 1003 00:31:07,826 --> 00:31:08,952 - From behind. 1004 00:31:08,993 --> 00:31:09,953 - Let's get this straight, right? 1005 00:31:09,994 --> 00:31:11,079 - Okay. - I look good, 1006 00:31:11,121 --> 00:31:12,205 and I'm a Black woman. 1007 00:31:12,247 --> 00:31:13,498 I was born in perfectionist 1008 00:31:13,540 --> 00:31:15,291 of perfectionist. - I look good, too. I look, too. 1009 00:31:15,333 --> 00:31:16,626 I'm very happy with the way I look. 1010 00:31:16,668 --> 00:31:17,877 - So, I know, I know. 1011 00:31:17,919 --> 00:31:19,421 - You don't need to keep b-bashing other women. 1012 00:31:19,462 --> 00:31:20,839 - I know, but I just felt like I-- - We-we look different, 1013 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,132 but I look good for-- - You look good for yourself. 1014 00:31:22,173 --> 00:31:23,216 - Yes, thank you. - Actually, my favorite dress 1015 00:31:23,258 --> 00:31:24,843 was the real wedding dress. - Yeah. 1016 00:31:24,884 --> 00:31:25,969 - Yeah, that was really pretty. - That one, I'd give you 100%. 1017 00:31:26,011 --> 00:31:27,220 You looked stunning on it. - Thank you. 1018 00:31:27,262 --> 00:31:29,305 - But the desert one, yes, I outshined you. 1019 00:31:29,347 --> 00:31:33,351 - Are you saying that you will always outshine the people 1020 00:31:33,393 --> 00:31:35,186 at the event because you're gonna look better? 1021 00:31:35,228 --> 00:31:37,147 - I don't outshine people in purpose. 1022 00:31:37,188 --> 00:31:38,982 Like, oh, my God, I'm gonna look better than people. 1023 00:31:39,024 --> 00:31:40,025 - But you just said that. 1024 00:31:40,066 --> 00:31:41,568 - I think look better for yourself. 1025 00:31:41,609 --> 00:31:43,153 So, if it is has a problem with people 1026 00:31:43,194 --> 00:31:44,404 that you look better than them, 1027 00:31:44,446 --> 00:31:45,864 none of them are my Goddamn business. 1028 00:31:45,905 --> 00:31:48,616 - It's my day, I'm a bride. - I love-- 1029 00:31:48,658 --> 00:31:49,993 - Yeah, but, Caroline, you specifically said to wear white. 1030 00:31:50,035 --> 00:31:51,161 - You know, like, when I watched it back, 1031 00:31:51,202 --> 00:31:52,162 you-you keep saying I was wearing sheen. 1032 00:31:52,203 --> 00:31:53,705 I was-- my dress was horrible. 1033 00:31:53,747 --> 00:31:54,539 I would have done all this. - It really did look like sheen. 1034 00:31:54,581 --> 00:31:56,082 - It wasn't sheen. 1035 00:31:56,124 --> 00:31:57,292 It was a 12,000 euro dress. - It was just-- it was young. 1036 00:31:57,334 --> 00:31:58,835 - It was beautiful. - Uh, it was tulle-y. 1037 00:31:58,877 --> 00:32:00,003 - Yeah, it was fun. - You're wearing tulle today but-- 1038 00:32:00,045 --> 00:32:01,254 - Let me ask you a question. 1039 00:32:01,296 --> 00:32:04,174 Isn't a danger of asking everyone to wear white 1040 00:32:04,215 --> 00:32:05,383 that people are going to wind up-- 1041 00:32:05,425 --> 00:32:06,551 - Very much so, very much so. She's brave. 1042 00:32:06,593 --> 00:32:08,011 - ...possibly looking like a bride? 1043 00:32:08,053 --> 00:32:09,262 - Yes, yes. - No, she was brave doing that. 1044 00:32:09,304 --> 00:32:10,847 - But-but, Andy-Andy, we knew we were supposed 1045 00:32:10,889 --> 00:32:12,557 to dumb it down and be simple. 1046 00:32:12,599 --> 00:32:13,808 We know that. - Nina's-Nina's was-- 1047 00:32:13,850 --> 00:32:15,727 - You didn't know a train looks like a bride? 1048 00:32:15,769 --> 00:32:17,729 - How? Sara, I have worn-- 1049 00:32:17,771 --> 00:32:20,648 I have literally worn couture to the mall. 1050 00:32:20,690 --> 00:32:22,233 Hello. - She-- Zara. 1051 00:32:22,275 --> 00:32:23,443 - You know I'm coming. - She went to Zara with you with-- 1052 00:32:23,485 --> 00:32:25,195 - I try to look less than I am supposed to. 1053 00:32:25,236 --> 00:32:26,363 - And you just couldn't help it? 1054 00:32:26,404 --> 00:32:27,197 - Yes. 1055 00:32:36,456 --> 00:32:37,123 - I'm not gonna lie, okay? 1056 00:32:38,249 --> 00:32:39,376 - Okay. - I'm gonna be real and honest. 1057 00:32:39,417 --> 00:32:40,669 - Okay. - Did I know 1058 00:32:40,710 --> 00:32:42,629 I was gonna look better than you? Absolutely. 1059 00:32:42,671 --> 00:32:44,589 - But beauty is being humble, as well. 1060 00:32:44,631 --> 00:32:47,509 - Oh, my God, I'm so sorry. That will never happen to me. 1061 00:32:47,550 --> 00:32:48,677 - Don't worry. - God did not take all this time 1062 00:32:48,718 --> 00:32:50,553 to create me to be humble for nobody. 1063 00:32:50,595 --> 00:32:51,721 Not gonna happen. 1064 00:32:51,763 --> 00:32:52,972 - Uh-uh. - Period. Dot. 1065 00:32:53,014 --> 00:32:55,058 - Period Dot. Mother----ing dot, yes. 1066 00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:57,310 - Okay, moving on to your trip in Nurai. 1067 00:32:57,352 --> 00:33:00,605 Who thinks that Ayan misinterpreted 1068 00:33:00,647 --> 00:33:03,274 what Stanbury was saying, um, and overreacted? 1069 00:33:03,316 --> 00:33:05,276 - Oh, 100%. - You all think so. 1070 00:33:05,318 --> 00:33:07,028 - Including me. - I knew what she was saying. 1071 00:33:07,070 --> 00:33:08,530 - Including me. - She was talking to me. 1072 00:33:08,571 --> 00:33:10,573 - Oh, and you think so, too. This is the most important. 1073 00:33:10,615 --> 00:33:12,575 - I don't know where the dependence comes from. 1074 00:33:12,617 --> 00:33:14,452 She always said-- - I depend on my husband 1075 00:33:14,494 --> 00:33:16,955 my whole entire life, and I love it. 1076 00:33:16,996 --> 00:33:22,127 - There's a difference between dependent and investment. 1077 00:33:22,168 --> 00:33:24,170 - I've worked since I was seven years old. 1078 00:33:24,212 --> 00:33:26,131 I know how to make money. I've done it. 1079 00:33:26,172 --> 00:33:27,799 I live a good life. - Stop it, Chanel. 1080 00:33:27,841 --> 00:33:30,802 You're looking for sh-- that isn't there. 1081 00:33:30,844 --> 00:33:34,264 - I honestly, to my soul, I wanna apologize to you 1082 00:33:34,305 --> 00:33:36,891 because when I watched it, and I saw you cry, 1083 00:33:36,933 --> 00:33:38,977 I was hurt by it because no matter 1084 00:33:39,019 --> 00:33:40,687 how funny and silly I am, 1085 00:33:40,729 --> 00:33:42,439 I don't wanna see another person cry. 1086 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,232 Actually, you were giving me compliments, 1087 00:33:44,274 --> 00:33:45,734 and I didn't see it. 1088 00:33:45,775 --> 00:33:47,736 So, I would really like to say I am so sorry. 1089 00:33:47,777 --> 00:33:49,112 - Thank you. 1090 00:33:49,154 --> 00:33:52,365 - Okay, so, after Sergio came to kind of 1091 00:33:52,407 --> 00:33:53,867 help you out or rescue you-- - Yeah, yeah. 1092 00:33:53,908 --> 00:33:56,327 Oh, that-- can I just say something very quickly, as well? 1093 00:33:56,369 --> 00:33:58,538 That is my husband coming to pick me up 1094 00:33:58,580 --> 00:34:00,248 on a weekend that I had organized. 1095 00:34:00,290 --> 00:34:01,708 - Yes. - Just pick me up. 1096 00:34:01,750 --> 00:34:03,460 We were leaving, it wasn't like he arrived first day. 1097 00:34:03,501 --> 00:34:04,711 - Okay. - You know, 1098 00:34:04,753 --> 00:34:05,920 what is wrong with that? - He came to pick you. 1099 00:34:05,962 --> 00:34:07,005 - All right, well, hold on. Well, let's-- 1100 00:34:07,047 --> 00:34:08,381 let's just talk about this, because-- 1101 00:34:08,423 --> 00:34:09,716 - Really tough. - Yes. 1102 00:34:09,758 --> 00:34:11,676 - ...Ayan, Brooks, and Lesa had a really honest 1103 00:34:11,718 --> 00:34:13,553 and candid conversation... - Yes. 1104 00:34:13,595 --> 00:34:16,389 - ...about the expectations that society has 1105 00:34:16,431 --> 00:34:18,808 of black women in terms of being strong. 1106 00:34:18,850 --> 00:34:21,436 And I would love it, Brooks, if you would just 1107 00:34:21,478 --> 00:34:22,645 talk about that a little bit 1108 00:34:22,687 --> 00:34:23,730 because I thought it was so interesting. 1109 00:34:23,772 --> 00:34:24,773 - Of course, I will. 1110 00:34:24,814 --> 00:34:27,275 So, it is facts. You see black women. 1111 00:34:27,317 --> 00:34:29,611 You automatically assume strength, right? 1112 00:34:29,652 --> 00:34:31,196 'Cause we're always like we got it. 1113 00:34:31,237 --> 00:34:33,073 We're always trying to do for ourself, right? 1114 00:34:33,114 --> 00:34:34,574 We got this, we're good. 1115 00:34:34,616 --> 00:34:35,700 You know, don't worry about it. 1116 00:34:35,742 --> 00:34:37,619 We're always trying to console others. 1117 00:34:37,660 --> 00:34:39,162 - Can I interject one second? - Yes. 1118 00:34:39,204 --> 00:34:41,373 - Going to boarding school, no one was coming to save me. 1119 00:34:41,414 --> 00:34:43,208 I-I always had to do everything on my own. 1120 00:34:43,249 --> 00:34:44,459 Nobody came to get me. - It's not the same. 1121 00:34:44,501 --> 00:34:45,835 - Why? - It's not the same. 1122 00:34:45,877 --> 00:34:47,295 As a black woman, the things that I've gone through-- 1123 00:34:47,337 --> 00:34:48,463 - No, we're talking about-- no, I'm saying white women 1124 00:34:48,505 --> 00:34:50,382 are perceived as more delicate. 1125 00:34:50,423 --> 00:34:51,883 Whether she was in the right, or she was in the wrong, 1126 00:34:51,925 --> 00:34:53,218 she was also beside herself. 1127 00:34:53,259 --> 00:34:54,552 - Mm-hmm. - Stanbury-- 1128 00:34:54,594 --> 00:34:55,929 - But the excuse for why Caroline needed Sergio, 1129 00:34:55,970 --> 00:34:57,389 is because she was so sad. 1130 00:34:57,430 --> 00:34:58,932 - Yeah. - And she was crying. 1131 00:34:58,973 --> 00:35:00,266 - But hold on, hold on. - But she needed her husband, too. 1132 00:35:00,308 --> 00:35:02,060 - I think the optics are really interesting. 1133 00:35:02,102 --> 00:35:04,312 - Yes. - And I wonder, 1134 00:35:04,354 --> 00:35:06,564 first of all, Stanbury, did you know the women 1135 00:35:06,606 --> 00:35:09,150 felt what way, and do you understand their point? 1136 00:35:09,192 --> 00:35:10,819 - I didn't know about that part. 1137 00:35:10,860 --> 00:35:12,987 I just know that they didn't want Sergio there. 1138 00:35:13,029 --> 00:35:14,155 - Okay. 1139 00:35:14,197 --> 00:35:15,824 - But I felt that it was my weekend. 1140 00:35:15,865 --> 00:35:18,243 - My question is, 'cause then we see you 1141 00:35:18,284 --> 00:35:19,953 going to hang out with Stanbury 1142 00:35:19,994 --> 00:35:21,204 once you're back from the trip. 1143 00:35:21,246 --> 00:35:22,414 - Yes. - And I wondered. 1144 00:35:22,455 --> 00:35:24,249 Did you share that with her? 1145 00:35:24,290 --> 00:35:25,834 - No. - That that was the feeling? 1146 00:35:25,875 --> 00:35:27,544 - You know, it didn't even-- after that point, 1147 00:35:27,585 --> 00:35:28,753 it was already so blown up. - Yeah. 1148 00:35:28,795 --> 00:35:30,755 - And when we left, we were exhausted. 1149 00:35:30,797 --> 00:35:32,465 I wasn't necessarily happy with her about 1150 00:35:32,507 --> 00:35:33,800 what she did at dinner. 1151 00:35:33,842 --> 00:35:35,510 You know, so, I was actually frustrated. 1152 00:35:35,552 --> 00:35:37,721 I had more so focused on that when I saw Caroline. 1153 00:35:37,762 --> 00:35:40,682 - I feel like, as we land this plane, 1154 00:35:40,724 --> 00:35:43,393 it seems like you and Stanbury 1155 00:35:43,435 --> 00:35:46,146 have actually gotten a lot off your chest. 1156 00:35:46,187 --> 00:35:47,313 - Oh, yeah. - Yeah. 1157 00:35:47,355 --> 00:35:48,940 - Do you feel like you have anything else 1158 00:35:48,982 --> 00:35:51,985 that has been unsaid or that you want to apologize, 1159 00:35:52,027 --> 00:35:54,446 or do you feel pretty clean with each other? 1160 00:35:54,487 --> 00:35:56,740 - No, I-I like my relationship with you. 1161 00:35:56,781 --> 00:35:57,991 I always have. 1162 00:35:58,033 --> 00:35:59,993 I-- what I don't like, is the inconsistency, 1163 00:36:00,035 --> 00:36:02,245 like not knowing if tomorrow we'll be the same. 1164 00:36:02,287 --> 00:36:05,290 Like, you know, because once we get to a really good place, 1165 00:36:05,331 --> 00:36:06,875 we've hugged it out a few times, 1166 00:36:06,916 --> 00:36:09,419 and then, the morning, it's all changed, again. 1167 00:36:09,461 --> 00:36:11,087 - For me, personally, Caroline, 1168 00:36:11,129 --> 00:36:14,174 I feel like I have tried with you. 1169 00:36:14,215 --> 00:36:16,217 The reason why I'm always like, 1170 00:36:16,259 --> 00:36:17,802 oh, my God, what's happening 1171 00:36:17,844 --> 00:36:19,637 because I always feel, from the beginning, 1172 00:36:19,679 --> 00:36:21,723 it was kind of like attacking me, 1173 00:36:21,765 --> 00:36:22,974 making me feel bad. - Yeah. 1174 00:36:23,016 --> 00:36:24,851 - Making me feel secluded and stuff like that. 1175 00:36:24,893 --> 00:36:26,853 So, if anything came from a good place, 1176 00:36:26,895 --> 00:36:28,146 I'll always be like, oh. 1177 00:36:28,188 --> 00:36:29,230 But we've had fun. 1178 00:36:29,272 --> 00:36:30,690 We've laughed. I've said she's fun 1179 00:36:30,732 --> 00:36:31,900 when we're having fun. - Yes. 1180 00:36:31,941 --> 00:36:33,902 - But you need to stop listening to people, 1181 00:36:33,943 --> 00:36:35,653 because every time you have a conversation with me, 1182 00:36:35,695 --> 00:36:37,781 you ask me, "Did you say this?" I'm like, "No." 1183 00:36:37,822 --> 00:36:39,407 I'm like, "Did you say this?" You're like, "No." 1184 00:36:39,449 --> 00:36:41,076 - So, if we could just, like, get to the point 1185 00:36:41,117 --> 00:36:43,370 where we don't have to call each other about each other, 1186 00:36:43,411 --> 00:36:44,496 I would really like that. - Me, too. 1187 00:36:44,537 --> 00:36:46,498 - And then let's get to you and Lesa. 1188 00:36:46,539 --> 00:36:49,000 - Yeah. - How do you two move forward, 1189 00:36:49,042 --> 00:36:51,753 or how do you-- how do you move forward after today? 1190 00:36:51,795 --> 00:36:55,423 - I've actually genuinely never had an issue with her 1191 00:36:55,465 --> 00:36:57,384 until I found out she had an issue with me. 1192 00:36:57,425 --> 00:36:58,635 - Okay. - Right? 1193 00:36:58,677 --> 00:37:00,845 So, I know you feel like you're on the defense. 1194 00:37:00,887 --> 00:37:02,806 I also feel like I'm on the defense 1195 00:37:02,847 --> 00:37:04,808 'cause I genuinely don't feel 1196 00:37:04,849 --> 00:37:05,975 like I've done anything to you. - No. 1197 00:37:06,017 --> 00:37:07,352 - I've never spoken about your husband. 1198 00:37:07,394 --> 00:37:09,396 But I would like to move forward. 1199 00:37:09,437 --> 00:37:10,689 I would like to get to a place 1200 00:37:10,730 --> 00:37:12,899 where we can all have fun-- - Yeah. 1201 00:37:12,941 --> 00:37:14,776 - And stop talking about each other. 1202 00:37:14,818 --> 00:37:16,861 And just, like, enjoy life. - Okay. 1203 00:37:16,903 --> 00:37:18,697 - You know, I feel like it's just always 1204 00:37:18,738 --> 00:37:21,491 he-said-she-said and negativity. - Mm-hmm. 1205 00:37:21,533 --> 00:37:23,243 - And you guys need to stop trying to exclude us 1206 00:37:23,284 --> 00:37:24,869 'cause you guys know you need us. 1207 00:37:24,911 --> 00:37:26,913 - Okay, but those are the things, Lesa. 1208 00:37:26,955 --> 00:37:29,332 You understand? Like, everything about me 1209 00:37:29,374 --> 00:37:31,418 has some sort of dig at the end. 1210 00:37:31,459 --> 00:37:32,752 She's great, but the followers. 1211 00:37:32,794 --> 00:37:35,005 She's great, but the bank, you know, bankruptcy. 1212 00:37:35,046 --> 00:37:36,214 She's great-- - She doesn't like it. 1213 00:37:36,256 --> 00:37:37,799 - She doesn't have this. - That's it. 1214 00:37:37,841 --> 00:37:39,134 We know how to treat a person. - You know, you don't know me. 1215 00:37:39,175 --> 00:37:40,051 You-- you're not in my house. You don't know me. 1216 00:37:40,093 --> 00:37:41,344 Ask me these questions. 1217 00:37:41,386 --> 00:37:42,345 I'll answer them. - Same. I've been saying that 1218 00:37:42,387 --> 00:37:43,430 to you for ages-- - No, no, I ret-- 1219 00:37:43,471 --> 00:37:44,764 - When you call these girls-- - I re-- 1220 00:37:44,806 --> 00:37:45,765 - To talk about me-- - I don't call these girls. 1221 00:37:45,807 --> 00:37:46,850 - And ask about me. - I really, 1222 00:37:46,891 --> 00:37:48,852 honestly haven't, Lesa. - Okay. 1223 00:37:48,893 --> 00:37:50,228 - That's what you're-- you're hearing, 1224 00:37:50,270 --> 00:37:51,396 but I haven't, okay? - So, someone is lying to you. 1225 00:37:51,438 --> 00:37:53,481 - Okay. - I promise you. And, you know, 1226 00:37:53,523 --> 00:37:55,734 I-- just because I was so wrapped up in myself, 1227 00:37:55,775 --> 00:37:58,737 at this point, doing the things that I was doing, 1228 00:37:58,778 --> 00:38:00,405 it wasn't my main concern. 1229 00:38:00,447 --> 00:38:01,740 Then it became my main concern 1230 00:38:01,781 --> 00:38:04,075 because I heard the stuff you were attacking me on, 1231 00:38:04,117 --> 00:38:05,368 and I was like, where from? - I don't attack you. 1232 00:38:05,410 --> 00:38:06,745 Stop using those words. 1233 00:38:06,786 --> 00:38:09,080 - Lesa, you said them in a public forum, so I'm re-- 1234 00:38:09,122 --> 00:38:10,665 I retaliate, okay? - No. 1235 00:38:10,707 --> 00:38:12,459 You and your husband said it in a public forum, 1236 00:38:12,500 --> 00:38:14,461 and I retaliated. - Which one? Which one? 1237 00:38:14,502 --> 00:38:15,879 - I've never attacked you. - Which one? 1238 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,088 - I don't talk about you. I don't speak on you. 1239 00:38:17,130 --> 00:38:18,256 - What did we say that we-- 1240 00:38:18,298 --> 00:38:20,467 that we've started? - I retaliate. Okay. 1241 00:38:20,508 --> 00:38:22,886 - All right. So, we'll see how that develops. 1242 00:38:22,927 --> 00:38:24,679 [laughing] I also wanna point out 1243 00:38:24,721 --> 00:38:26,723 you all had a pretty great time in Nurai, too. 1244 00:38:26,765 --> 00:38:27,766 - Yes. - Yeah, it was really fun. 1245 00:38:27,807 --> 00:38:29,434 - I was so upset the way it ended. 1246 00:38:29,476 --> 00:38:30,769 - Yeah. - Because I was genuinely, 1247 00:38:30,810 --> 00:38:34,022 for the first time, having the best time. 1248 00:38:34,064 --> 00:38:36,858 Like, this one wanted to drown me, unsuccessfully. 1249 00:38:36,900 --> 00:38:38,151 - Oh, yeah, that was funny. - Yeah. 1250 00:38:38,193 --> 00:38:40,612 You know, the bicycle rides, these two kissing. 1251 00:38:40,653 --> 00:38:42,530 I mean, it was just a fun day. - Whoa. Wow. 1252 00:38:42,572 --> 00:38:44,032 - You missed the two of them kissing. 1253 00:38:44,074 --> 00:38:44,824 - Oh, wow. 1254 00:38:44,866 --> 00:38:46,076 - We kissed? [laughing] 1255 00:38:46,117 --> 00:38:46,951 - You guys were so drunk. - You and Caroline. 1256 00:38:46,993 --> 00:38:48,870 - Was there tongue? - No. 1257 00:38:48,912 --> 00:38:49,913 [laughing] 1258 00:38:49,954 --> 00:38:51,164 - We're not gonna follow you guys. 1259 00:38:51,206 --> 00:38:52,624 - Cheers, honey. - I'm telling, Nina, you lead. 1260 00:38:52,665 --> 00:38:53,833 I'll be behind them-- - I don't know where I'm going. 1261 00:38:53,875 --> 00:38:54,959 - To make sure that they're okay. 1262 00:38:55,001 --> 00:38:57,379 - But it was such a fun day. - It was. 1263 00:38:57,420 --> 00:38:59,089 It just didn't end well. - I apologize. 1264 00:38:59,130 --> 00:39:00,382 That was my fault. 1265 00:39:00,423 --> 00:39:01,633 - No, that's fine. 1266 00:39:01,675 --> 00:39:04,886 - I actually feel like we-we hit a good spot. 1267 00:39:04,928 --> 00:39:06,805 - I thought we were gonna get some dead bodies but-- 1268 00:39:06,846 --> 00:39:08,640 - I know. No. - Thank God, no. 1269 00:39:08,682 --> 00:39:10,141 - The feathers are intact. 1270 00:39:10,183 --> 00:39:11,643 The hair is still in intact. - Everything is intact. 1271 00:39:11,685 --> 00:39:13,144 - And my boobs won't behave. 1272 00:39:13,186 --> 00:39:14,729 [laughing] 1273 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,824 I'm Andy Cohen, and it's a wrap on a season 1274 00:39:25,865 --> 00:39:28,118 that has truly been a gift. 1275 00:39:28,159 --> 00:39:31,079 And speaking of, I love it that you guys 1276 00:39:31,121 --> 00:39:34,165 decided to follow Ayan's lead. [laughing] 1277 00:39:34,207 --> 00:39:37,627 And you each brought a present for another lady here. 1278 00:39:37,669 --> 00:39:39,713 And before we go around and get the presents, 1279 00:39:39,754 --> 00:39:43,925 have you always been known for giving presents? 1280 00:39:43,967 --> 00:39:45,260 - They are very important, 1281 00:39:45,301 --> 00:39:47,095 because if you go to Africa in someone's house, 1282 00:39:47,137 --> 00:39:48,763 you just don't walk in with nothing. 1283 00:39:48,805 --> 00:39:50,598 - Okay. So, let's start with you. 1284 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,308 You-- who did you bring a gift for? 1285 00:39:52,350 --> 00:39:54,269 - So, I chose Stanbury, 1286 00:39:54,310 --> 00:39:55,603 and this really symbolizes 1287 00:39:55,645 --> 00:39:57,605 something really important for me. 1288 00:39:57,647 --> 00:40:00,525 I feel like there was a lot of fire born 1289 00:40:00,567 --> 00:40:02,193 before we actually got to know each other. 1290 00:40:02,235 --> 00:40:04,904 So, with that, I'm just gonna be like (BLEEP) this sh-- 1291 00:40:04,946 --> 00:40:07,991 and let us put all this fire out 1292 00:40:08,033 --> 00:40:11,119 and start out fresh with each other. 1293 00:40:11,161 --> 00:40:12,328 [laughing] - Nice. 1294 00:40:12,370 --> 00:40:13,246 - Just don't spray it. - Without any drama. 1295 00:40:13,288 --> 00:40:14,414 - Don't spray it. 1296 00:40:14,456 --> 00:40:15,582 - And actually, open up and be friends. 1297 00:40:15,623 --> 00:40:17,208 Here, that's for you. - Thank you. 1298 00:40:17,250 --> 00:40:18,418 - Aww, that's good. 1299 00:40:18,460 --> 00:40:21,504 - Yeah, honestly, it means a lot to me. So-- 1300 00:40:21,546 --> 00:40:23,048 - Thank you. I love it. I really love it. 1301 00:40:23,089 --> 00:40:24,841 [laughing] - Okay, Stanbury. 1302 00:40:24,883 --> 00:40:26,051 Stanbury, you're next. 1303 00:40:26,092 --> 00:40:27,469 Who did you bring a gift for? - Oh. 1304 00:40:27,510 --> 00:40:28,928 Oh, I got one for Lesa. 1305 00:40:28,970 --> 00:40:30,138 - Did you get her-her-- - It better not be that book. 1306 00:40:32,098 --> 00:40:34,142 [laughing] 1307 00:40:36,102 --> 00:40:38,855 - Is that a puppet? - Yes. This is Ayan, 1308 00:40:38,897 --> 00:40:41,191 and Lesa is the hand inside. 1309 00:40:41,232 --> 00:40:42,525 [laughing] - Really? 1310 00:40:42,567 --> 00:40:45,236 - Absolutely not true but I'll take it. 1311 00:40:45,278 --> 00:40:46,488 - There you go. 1312 00:40:46,529 --> 00:40:47,322 The kids will love it. - Thank you. Yes, yes. 1313 00:40:47,364 --> 00:40:48,907 - Oh, yeah. - Thank you. 1314 00:40:48,948 --> 00:40:51,785 I got a gift for Nina. - Okay. 1315 00:40:51,826 --> 00:40:53,953 - We've been friends for so many years. 1316 00:40:53,995 --> 00:40:55,955 I've always loved you. I still love you, 1317 00:40:55,997 --> 00:40:57,707 and so I've gotten you this gift. 1318 00:40:57,749 --> 00:41:00,126 It's "How to be a Friend." 1319 00:41:00,168 --> 00:41:02,170 I'm always the queen of giving notes. 1320 00:41:02,212 --> 00:41:02,921 - Yeah. [laughing] 1321 00:41:02,962 --> 00:41:04,130 - Oh, my God. - So-- 1322 00:41:04,172 --> 00:41:06,758 and I think you can take some notes. 1323 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,593 - I think I've mastered the art of being a friend, 1324 00:41:08,635 --> 00:41:10,220 but I'll-I'll-- - You can take notes. 1325 00:41:10,261 --> 00:41:11,513 - Maybe I'll learn something. - A little bit. 1326 00:41:11,554 --> 00:41:12,889 - Thank you. - Yeah. 1327 00:41:12,931 --> 00:41:14,974 - Nina, who did you give a gift for? 1328 00:41:15,016 --> 00:41:17,060 - Uh, I got a gift for Sara. 1329 00:41:17,102 --> 00:41:20,021 Since everybody says you love to preach, 1330 00:41:20,063 --> 00:41:22,440 I want you to start your podcast, 1331 00:41:22,482 --> 00:41:23,608 so she can preach to the world. 1332 00:41:23,650 --> 00:41:25,318 - all: Aww. 1333 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:26,986 - So, it's a-- it's got everything in there you need. 1334 00:41:27,028 --> 00:41:28,196 - I love you. - That's great. 1335 00:41:28,238 --> 00:41:29,739 - That's really good. I like it. - Wow. 1336 00:41:29,781 --> 00:41:31,032 - Thank you. 1337 00:41:31,074 --> 00:41:33,368 - Okay, Sara, who did you get a gift for? 1338 00:41:33,410 --> 00:41:36,663 - I got a gift for Brooks. I don't have it here 1339 00:41:36,705 --> 00:41:38,707 because I booked us a trip to the Maldives. 1340 00:41:38,748 --> 00:41:39,916 - Wow! - Ahh! 1341 00:41:39,958 --> 00:41:42,127 - Whenever you're free, we go, me and you, 1342 00:41:42,168 --> 00:41:43,962 and we have fun. There is a huge villa for us. 1343 00:41:44,004 --> 00:41:45,714 - I love you. - I got a fire extinguisher. 1344 00:41:45,755 --> 00:41:48,216 [laughing] 1345 00:41:48,258 --> 00:41:50,719 - Ahh! We're gonna have so much fun. 1346 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,095 - Wow! 1347 00:41:52,137 --> 00:41:54,514 Brooks, who did you get a gift for? 1348 00:41:54,556 --> 00:41:56,641 - I got a gift for Chanel Ayan. 1349 00:41:56,683 --> 00:41:59,019 - Oh, from Bergdorf Goodman. - It just looks so expensive. 1350 00:41:59,060 --> 00:42:00,311 I'm excited. - Wait. Has it been 1351 00:42:00,353 --> 00:42:02,522 through the metal detector? [laughing] 1352 00:42:02,564 --> 00:42:04,107 - I don't know. Can I survive? 1353 00:42:04,149 --> 00:42:05,692 - Yes. 1354 00:42:05,734 --> 00:42:07,277 - No, you're lying. 1355 00:42:07,318 --> 00:42:08,570 - Just open the damn box. 1356 00:42:08,611 --> 00:42:10,071 - I hope it's not a box just-- 1357 00:42:10,113 --> 00:42:13,199 [laughter] 1358 00:42:13,241 --> 00:42:15,118 - Do you know what? I'm taking YouTube lessons 1359 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,037 to learn English. This will help. 1360 00:42:17,078 --> 00:42:18,872 So, I love it. Thank you. 1361 00:42:18,913 --> 00:42:21,750 What else? Oh, it's lemonade. 1362 00:42:21,791 --> 00:42:24,210 - Lemonade, aww. - I like it. 1363 00:42:24,252 --> 00:42:27,255 We should drink it together. Muah, muah. 1364 00:42:27,297 --> 00:42:28,631 - Oh, my God. - Nice. You knew that-- 1365 00:42:28,673 --> 00:42:30,008 - Let me fix it. - Ayan would be-- 1366 00:42:30,050 --> 00:42:31,176 - Hold on. You can wear it. - Coming for your crown. 1367 00:42:31,217 --> 00:42:32,677 There you go. 1368 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:33,636 - Who does it suit better? - Okay, this is the real gift. 1369 00:42:33,678 --> 00:42:35,055 - So sweet. - You, honey. 1370 00:42:35,096 --> 00:42:36,348 - Thank you for giving me a crown. 1371 00:42:36,389 --> 00:42:38,308 I like it. I'm gonna learn English very well. 1372 00:42:38,350 --> 00:42:40,018 [laughing] - Wow. That was really fun. 1373 00:42:40,060 --> 00:42:41,770 We've never done that. - Here, pass it. 1374 00:42:41,811 --> 00:42:43,396 It's very gorgeous. - I wanna wear it. 1375 00:42:43,438 --> 00:42:44,981 - Yes. - Yes. 1376 00:42:45,023 --> 00:42:50,904 - Hey. Hey, I like it. 1377 00:42:50,945 --> 00:42:53,365 - all: Hey. [laughing] 1378 00:42:53,406 --> 00:42:54,199 - All right. - Okay, 1379 00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:55,617 I'll take that. - Okay. 1380 00:42:55,658 --> 00:42:58,912 Thank you all again for an amazing inaugural season. 1381 00:42:58,953 --> 00:43:01,289 I hope all your gifts clear customs. 1382 00:43:01,331 --> 00:43:03,958 [laughing] Great job. Great job. 1383 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,627 Good night, everybody. Thanks, ladies. 1384 00:43:05,669 --> 00:43:06,753 - We're done? - Yay! 1385 00:43:06,795 --> 00:43:07,921 It's over. - We need to take a picture.