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Federal agents, why would they still be here if they...
Why would I make them so uncomfortable?
Who are you people?
So, what do you think is the biggest threat right now?
I think the biggest threat is the FBI, the NSA,
um, and their counterparts in foreign governments.
I mean, these are all, essentially, you know,
companies, right?
They try to justify their budgets in various ways,
often by scaremongering.
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What are the Men In Black?
People have been reporting their own Men In Black experiences
and eyewitness accounts
since the beginning of the UFO cover-up history.
The burning question in most people's minds
surrounding the infamous MIB accounts is,
what are the Men In Black?
Well, the Men In Black is a concept
that's been in the UFO field
since, really, the beginning of the UFO field essentially.
Um, and there is a weird thing about it
because there's always been two different components
to this phenomenon.
Um, there are cases where a UFO witness
or someone who has some connection
to the UFO phenomenon,
uh, is then accosted
by, usually, two individuals,
often in pairs, sometimes singular,
sometimes even more than two, but often, two.
And there are times when, uh,
very, like, ordinary,
like human-looking intelligence types
approach someone
and either warn them off of their investigation,
or will actually make it very clear to them
that they're dealing with a UFO phenomenon.
But in all cases, the idea is to scare off
or intimidate the witness so that they don't pursue
whatever it is that they're looking into.
Historical accounts of the Men In Black
recall the overwhelming sensation of fear
experienced by those who have had prior encounters
with UFOs or something out of the extraordinary.
This fear is a tool used to suppress
an incredible UFO event from the public.
What are their true goals?
Are they outdated military relics from the past?
Or are they covertly influencing today's society
through misinformation, fake news?
The earliest recorded encounter with a man in black
was in 1947.
Harold Dahl, a conservationist,
was near the shore of Maury Island in Washington.
Dahl's job was to retrieve serviceable lumber,
that was often just floating around in the water back in those days.
And he would bring it back,
and that would be their business,
that's their business model.
And so Dahl is out on a boat, uh, for this purpose
with his teenage son and dog, actually.
And he sees six discs...
...in the air. We're talking, this is June, 1947.
This is actually, uh, right before,
a couple of days before Kenneth Arnold's famous sighting of flying saucers
over by Mount Rainier in the state of Washington.
So, uh, just a few days before that
Dahl is out in his boat in the water
and he sees these six disc-like objects,
one of them's in trouble.
And it's, uh, wobbling and it's...
It seems to be losing its stability.
And the other discs come toward it,
according to his description,
and this disc that's in trouble releases material
that, uh, almost looked like some kind of slag, that is, uh,
like a rocky type of, uh, material that comes out.
And according to what Dahl said,
some of this material hit his son,
injuring his son's arm
and supposedly killed his dog.
And then after the object lost its material,
it regained its stability
and all of these objects then, uh, departed.
So Dahl, uh, spoke to his supervisor, Fred Crisman.
Here's where the Men In Black scenario comes in
with Harold Dahl.
The next day...
What it comes down to is, he's at... There's a diner.
There was a diner in that area where he's having breakfast the next day,
and he has a conversation with this mysterious man he's never met before.
Dahl initially expected this man was a lumber dealer,
and he was expecting just to do
a standard business arrangement with this guy.
He deals... He dealt with strangers all the time
who were interested in lumber.
It turns out this man was nothing of the sort.
This man then relates every single thing
that had happened to Dahl the previous day.
And he knew all about it,
uh, to Dahl's shock.
I mean, that would be a shocking thing for anyone to experience.
And this mysterious man essentially said, Look,
you're just going to leave this alone
and you're not going to pursue this in any way whatsoever,
if you know what's good for you.
And so, uh, that's an intimidating experience for so many reasons.
You can imagine, poor Harold Dahl thinking...
This is 1947.
You're in America in 1947,
you're not under the assumption
that you're living in a surveillance state.
And so, imagine the shock he had to have felt
thinking, Wait, what? How do you know
about anything that happened to me yesterday?
So, there's that level
and then there's the implied threat from this man,
which just added to it.
Dahl did not have in his possession,
uh, the slag at the time.
There was an enormous amount of this stuff.
So, like, we're talking
much more than any one person could carry around with them.
Um, the bulk of this ended up in the possession
of Fred Crisman, Dahl's boss.
And eventually, the United States Air Force
sends two men
to investigate and retrieve whatever this material is.
And they actually do get to do this.
And they load all of this slag material onto an Air Force transport...
Actually, this is Army Air Corps at the time.
This is just before the Air Force
has become a independent, unified entity,
separate from the Army.
So they come up from McChord Airfield in California,
to acquire this material, and they do,
and on their way back from Maury Island,
their plane catches fire and goes down and they die.
That's what happened.
Uh,
and after that I...
I don't know what happened to the slag material
or whatever this was,
but their plane crashed.
What is the true mission of the Men In Black?
Is it the suppression of information
regarding UFOs and extraterrestrials?
Or is it to aid them and further their agenda?
So, relating to the story of a man named Albert Bender
who also had a very interesting experience,
which actually coined the phrase "Men In Black."
Bender was one of the earliest,
uh, organizers of, kind of, civilian UFO groups.
There was the International Flying Saucer Bureau.
Uh, it was a publication that was quite successful
by 1952 standards.
You know, printing out the publication,
mailing it out and getting subscriptions that way,
it's not easy. It wasn't easy to do back then.
Albert K. Bender founded the International Flying Saucer Bureau
in 1952, during the big UFO flap.
Now, this was a phenomena that he had been studying
and following for years
and decided that there needed to be
one centralized location
to put all of this information that had been gathered.
But he was doing a pretty good job.
Now, 1952 was a very big year for UFOs in the United States.
A very, very big year.
Um, you know, according to Project Blue Book,
which was doing investigations and taking reports,
that was by far the biggest year they had.
Yeah, you could say that Project Blue Book was, uh...
You could say the first AATIP.
You know, the Advanced Aerial Threat Identification Program
that we've learned about since then.
But in Blue Book they, um,
had over 1,500 UFO reports for that year, which...
This is all pre-Internet.
To get that many reports that people send in is... It's a lot.
A lot of those were very intense military encounters.
Very well documented.
Uh, this is the year that for two weekends in a row,
flying saucers were seen over the Capitol in Washington, DC that summer.
It was the summer in which the United States Air Force
held an enormous press conference all about this.
It was the year in which, if you were to go into
Wright-Patterson Air Force Base's, um,
Project Blue Book Office,
according to Edward Ruppelt who was running it back then,
he said, If you were to come in here,
you would have thought there was an invasion underway.
It was that intense.
Uh, there were a lot of people in the military
who actually believed that the secret was going to come out that year.
That's how big it was.
So in the midst of all that, you have a young guy like Bender
who is investigating this on his own, and he's,
you know, getting contributions from other writers,
and he's got a decent publication going.
It's quite successful.
Now, this blew up and went international immediately.
Within that first year, he already had offices
in the UK and also Australia.
And you have to realize,
this is long before the Internet,
cell phones and our current technology.
He was doing all of this through snail mail
and, if he could afford it, long-distance telephone calls,
back when you had to pay long-distance charges.
So, on a very limited budget,
he was able to make this very large organization
that was compiling all of this information
on UFO activity at the time
and also producing a newsletter
that would get mailed out as well.
And then, seemingly out of the blue in March, 1953
he just shuts the whole thing down and just runs away.
And no one hears from Albert Bender.
He just makes this quick announcement,
I'm done. We're not doing this anymore. See you.
Nobody really knew what truly happened.
Gray Barker, a writer and publisher at that time,
also involved in the UFO community,
tried to get some details out of him
and published a few, uh, scant details
during the mid-1950s
but never really got a clear answer.
But then, in the early 1960s, a little over 10 years later,
Gray Barker published a book by Albert K. Bender called
Flying Saucers and the Three Men
where Albert K. Bender told his story
about what had really happened to him.
And, um, nine years after that,
in 1962, Bender wrote a book
called Flying Saucers and the Three Men
and he gives a... The story about why this all...
Why did he shut it down in 1953, and...
Uh, here's where we get into a definite
paranormal description of the Men In Black.
Now what Bender claimed is that he started being visited
by three strange men.
He would go into his bedroom at night and all of a sudden,
three shadowy figures would materialize through the walls.
Now these figures were very dark in nature.
They were wearing hats, almost like a fedora style,
and they had glowing eyes.
Now, when I first heard this story,
coming from a paranormal background like I do,
I immediately thought of shadow people,
the hat-wearing shadow entities that many people talk
about observing and having interactions with.
Now, Albert K. Bender believed that these were actually extraterrestrials.
That they had come to warn him off
of all the work that he was doing
and these guys are the reason why he disbanded
the International Flying Saucer Bureau.
Now, other people hear this story
and they believe this is a Men In Black story.
That it was the Men In Black that had arrived
and warned him off of all of his flying saucer research.
Now, with Bender, what he believed that
these entities were, that they were ETs,
they were extraterrestrials from some other world
that had come to our planet
to harvest resources down in Antarctica,
where they were harvesting these resources out of the water.
They were here on a 15-year mission to do so.
And Albert Bender could not say anything
about the true nature of what he had observed,
who he was interacting with and why he had disbanded
the International Flying Saucer Bureau
until these ETs had left Earth.
Which is why, several years later, in the 1960s,
he came forth with his story
and published the book through Gray Barker.
He noted that they had red eyes.
So any time you're going to see a being
that can mysteriously enter your room
and they've got red eyes,
I think the implication is going to be
that these aren't quite from our neighborhood.
They're from somewhere else.
So, Bender...
You know, it's tough enough for people to accept
this ordinary paranormal element of the story,
and that's difficult enough.
Then he added that they gave him...
Well, they gave the reason
why he couldn't investigate this,
and they, according to Bender, they said,
Well, we're mining under in Antarctica.
And this is very important and we don't want you
to disturb this and cause us any trouble.
And they gave him, according to Bender, they gave him a medallion.
And stated,
When this medallion disappears, that will mean that we're gone.
And then you can talk about us.
You cannot talk about us until then.
And according to that reasoning,
the medallion, uh, disappeared, I guess, in the early 1960s,
prompting Bender to write his book,
which was published in 1962.
And, you know, I mean,
it's not difficult to understand
why people would have a very hard time to believe that.
Uh, where's the evidence?
Oh, well, the evidence disappeared.
No medallion.
Antarctica, like, especially in 1950s in...
You know, there would be no reason
anyone would possibly think that there was work going on
in Antarctica, the most remote, desolate part of the planet.
Uh, pretty fantastic.
Nowadays, uh, there's all kinds of talks
and rumors about Antarctica
in the UFO field. It never stops.
Fully illuminated, round object was hovering silently over the missile silo
and shining a light down onto it.
And then from this dead stop, it shoots off to the east,
uh, just like, now you see it now you don't.
This planet is being visited by beings from another world.
In 1964, Dr. Robert Jacobs was in charge
of the optical instrumentation of ballistic missile testing.
There, he recorded footage of an ICBM
and was surprised to find the extraordinary.
Here he recalls the events in detail.
And flying downrange, we've got all three stages of powered flight,
and as the, uh, dummy warhead and the package flew on downrange,
we were all celebrating the fact that we had, uh, seen a thing
and accomplished the mission.
So, another interesting story concerned a man named Dr. Robert Jacobs,
who was a highly qualified, uh, scientific professional
who in 1964, he was very much involved
in film recording
of missile launches,
uh, out of White Sands Proving Ground
in New Mexico,
where, uh, ballistic missiles were being tested.
And what they would do is
they would launch these missiles
and then record them.
...and flying downrange,
we got all three stages of powered flight
and as the dummy warhead
and the package flew on downrange,
we were all celebrating the fact that we had seen a thing
and accomplished the mission.
When I got back to the base with the film the next day,
I was called into the office of Major Florence J. Mansmann,
and there were three people in gray suits standing in there.
There was a 16 millimeter camera and a screen set up.
Major Mansmann said, Lieutenant, sit down and watch this.
And he suddenly said, Just watch this.
And as I watched,
the warhead, the dummy warhead,
the shaft that was put out in front of it as the decoy
to deflect the Russian anti-missile missile tracking radar.
And during one of these tests,
the missile just went completely haywire
and didn't perform as expected, it crashed.
And on review of the film the next day,
what Jacobs and his supervisor who was a major,
noticed that there was an object, a UFO.
Everything was flying along and suddenly,
in the same direction this stuff was flying
at about 8,000 miles an hour.
The object came into the frame,
shot a beam of light at the warhead,
flew up to the top,
shot another beam of light at the warhead,
flew around at the direction it was flying,
shot another beam of light at the warhead,
flew down, shot another beam of light at the warhead,
and flew out the same way it came in.
Well, I don't see why didn't you see this
when you were shooting it?
Well, it was, uh, 600 to 800 miles away from us.
Like a saucer type of an object
that was clearly interacting with this missile.
And it was when this object appeared, the missile went...
And I think it shot some, like a laser or a beam.
I think it was a very well defined
laser type of a beam that was directed at this missile.
And at that moment, the missile went off course
and just crashed.
Well, first of all Major Mansmann said to me,
What was that? Were you guys screwing around up there?
-I said, No, sir,
Then he said, Then tell me what that was?
I said, We got a UFO.
After choosing to discuss the event,
Dr. Jacobs reports disruptions in his daily life.
People calling at all times of the day and night
threatening his life,
which has escalated into property damage.
Intimidation is one of many techniques
used to instill fear.
And he said, Lieutenant,
you are never to speak of this again.
As far as you're concerned, this didn't happen.
Eventually, Major Mansmann confirmed Dr. Jacobs' claims
of a UFO interacting with the ICBM.
The major also disclosed that two agents
who were not the CIA
took the footage and altered it.
All film evidence of the UFO
and its interactions with the missile were missing.
The Major reported that one agent said to him,
That leaves you off the hook,
but not off disclosure, understood?
Somehow the Major had said to Jacobs
that these men told him,
they'd erased the flying saucer from this film.
And they said, You're off the hook, but you're not off of disclosure.
In other words,
you're not in trouble now because we've cleaned the film up,
but don't you talk about it.
That's 1964 and, uh, Jacobs,
then you fast-forward
to the disclosure project with Dr. Steven Greer.
We're talking late 1990s now, when Jacobs
did an interview with Greer and talked about this event.
And that was published in Greer's book,
I think the following year, in 2000.
And what Jacobs said in the aftermath of that
was that he was subject to a range of harassment
type of activities.
Some of these things would include, uh,
threatening phone calls at all times of the day
and, uh, even to vandalism against his property,
property damage
and, uh, acts of intimidation of this sort.
Which, yeah, that's going to intimidate people.
So, the whole point of, of this type of activity
obviously, would be to frighten you, the witness,
enough to realize,
You'd better not talk about this
because you're dealing with people
who will do damage to you.
And if they can wiretap your phone,
or if they can threaten you at any time of the day,
um, who knows what they're capable of doing?
Now, there have been some visits by these types of individuals
in which the witness doesn't believe that they're fully human.
There's an odd component to some of these encounters,
and in fact, when you really go through some of those descriptions,
it's easy to see why people would conclude that.
Uh, some of those individuals are described
physically as having very pasty skin
or very unusual physical features
like, very thin, clothes don't fit them properly.
Uh, odd behavioral characteristics.
In some cases,
the witness will say that they almost seem to lose power,
uh, or energy in the middle of the interview
and then they just leave
as if they're like robots running out of battery power,
you know, something like that.
So you get these two disparate types
of Men In Black stories,
and that's always been the tension
that you get with the Men In Black phenomenon.
Are we dealing with, you know,
people working through the CIA
or Air Force Office of Special Investigation or something like that?
Uh, or are you dealing with,
I mean, really, the implication is,
are you dealing with non-humans posing as human beings
for their own purposes?
And that's always been the tension.
As witnesses continue to come forward
with their experiences,
it is believed that the Men In Black
shifted their approach to publicly debunking those claims through proxy.
Credible reports of abductions
circulated throughout the UFO community
and was met with heavy skepticism by debunkers.
He got his start as a debunker in the mid-1960s
with the idea of ball lightning to explain away
one particular interesting UFO event.
Uh, through the '60s made it his personal vendetta
to destroy the career of James McDonald,
the atmospheric physicist,
who was a very, very strong UFO proponent.
And then, by the 1970s Klass really was hitting the big time
in terms of media attention
and in terms of his prominence as a UFO skeptic.
Certainly, by the 1970s,
Philip Klass had become the number one
active UFO skeptic by far.
Credible reports of abductions
circulated throughout the UFO community
and was met with heavy skepticism by debunkers.
Are you a debunker of all UFO stories?
-Is that your purpose? -Well, I look for explanations.
Now, you know, you can look at
probably the most prominent skeptic
of UFOs during the 19...
Starting from the mid-'60s,
right through the rest of the 20th century,
was a man named Philip J. Klass.
Yeah. Now Klass
wasn't a true Man In Black,
uh, the way that previous Men In Black were described,
you know, coming in your house and threatening you.
Klass worked in a different way.
Uh, he engaged in countless smear campaigns through the media
to discredit individuals associated with UFOs, most famously
the atmospheric physicist James McDonald,
who is really a hero in the UFO field,
and rightly so.
Klass went after McDonald's like a... Like a war.
A personal vendetta.
Klass was someone who was so well positioned
through his contacts in Washington, D.C.
where he lived and worked.
He was a senior editor for a very prominent
aerospace aviation magazine,
and he was very well connected.
Uh, Klass always seemed to have
information on people.
He had this way, and this went throughout his entire career.
But there is no more exciting story that I could write
or Aviation Week could publish
than to say, At last
we've come across one UFO report
that cannot be explained in prosaic terms.
Maybe this is an alien spaceship.
Biggest story of all time.
Yet in more than 22 years as a hobby
of investigating famous mysterious UFO cases, reports,
I have never found one that cannot be explained
in prosaic earthly terms.
He once tried to bribe
one of Travis Walton's, uh, coworkers.
You know, Travis Walton had the very famous UFO encounter in 1975
where he was missing for five days.
Klass actually tried to bribe
uh, one of Walton's cohorts
to deny the whole thing ever happened.
He offered him $10,000.
This is how Klass worked constantly.
You know, it's like Philip Klass
offered me $10,000.
That was a lot of money back in the '70s.
And there's always been very, very strong suspicion.
No proof that I'm aware of,
but very strong circumstantial evidence
that Klass was some kind of asset
to the US intelligence community
doing work for them to discredit him on the subject.
He definitely was promoted by Edward Condon
of the famous Condon Committee from the late 1960s
that, um, infamously try to debunk UFOs scientifically.
Our latest book, Stanton Friedman and I
have written Fact, Fiction, and Flying Saucers.
It's based upon years of archival research.
He went to Harvard,
read Donald Menzel's archival files.
I went to the American Philosophical Society.
I made several trips there,
and what I found in the correspondence files
was a plan to debunk those individuals
who had very compelling cases
and also to attempt to reduce the credibility of scientists
who had an interest in investigating UFOs
and who were speaking publicly about that.
I have a letter that Dr. Edward Condon wrote to McGraw Hill.
And in that letter, Edward Condon stated,
If you need anyone in the media
to make public statements about UFOs,
I would advise you to use Philip Klass.
Condon certainly worked hard to try to promote Philip Klass
as much as possible, as someone who would be relied upon
to give the proper perspective on UFOs.
That is the skeptical, debunking attitude on UFOs,
uh, through the media.
Klass is someone who was able to get New York Times,
op-ed pieces and articles like no problem.
He was on CNN all the time, Larry King.
He was always able to get access to major media
in a way that normal UFO researchers
would have just, you know, given up an arm
to be able to have,
but Klass just had this magical ability
to connect with all major media.
And you could certainly say
that Klass is a new version of the Man In Black,
not in any way like the mysterious,
intimidating figures coming to your house.
He would just smear you and try to destroy your career.
What was was recovered was a radar target.
-Balloon-borne. -No, no, no, no.
That is, that is the cover story that was put out.
We know it was a cover story based on the testimony of the people
who put out the cover story.
Whatever happened at Westall,
whatever the objects were, they were being tracked.
They'd being tracked from where they were coming from.
They'd been tracked over previous days,
and there was some sense of there being, um,
a surveillance going on of these objects.
And that's why the response could be as fast as it was
to the... To Westall.
That's why the military could get there as quickly as they did that day,
because there were some, if you like, forewarning
that perhaps these objects had been seen elsewhere in Australia
in the preceding days.
Certainly we have the famous photograph of a UFO
taken in a suburb of Balwyn
about 20 kilometers from Westall
just four days before the Westall incident.
And that photograph was leaked to a Melbourne newspaper,
The Herald, and published
and caused a huge furor at the time,
so much so that the person who took the photograph itself,
even though he didn't want it published in the newspaper,
he gave it to a friend who leaked it.
He never wanted it made public,
but it was
and it then resulted in
the Air Force visiting him at his home.
An interview was held with him.
And he claims to this day that he thinks the Air Force
was so concerned about that photograph going into the newspaper
was because it showed the object
that was seen at Westall four days later,
or there was some connection with whatever that object was
that he caught in his polaroid photograph
and with what happened at Westall.
So that's an ongoing mystery.
How could it be that an object,
an object of unknown origin,
an object that flew in ways
that were completely inexplicable to anybody who witnessed it,
how there could be such a rapid response
by the military, whether it was the Army or the Air Force.
There's another very interesting case in Australia
outside of the city of Melbourne,
in the south part of Australian in a town called Westall.
And this is 1966.
This is a really incredible UFO incident.
I had the privilege of visiting Westall myself some years ago
and going to the school yard where all of this happened
and the story was, you have, uh,
all the kids run out of the school
because someone saw this UFO coming over the property there.
So you got 200 kids of all ages and teachers.
There were adults and youths that were watching this.
The object, by all of the witness accounts,
either landed or almost landed
on the property, like, very, very low.
In fact, one girl,
she was like in junior high school age, think she was like 12 or 13.
She got the closest to it, and according to the witnesses,
like she was not ever seen again.
She moved far away after this.
That's an odd thing.
But what we know for certain,
there was a science teacher named Daniel
who stated that these, look like Australian Air Force,
came to his house,
and they're two of them,
and they absolutely threatened his career
and possibly his freedom
if he was to continue talking about this event.
They made it clear in no uncertain terms.
You're not going to talk about this
or you'll have some serious repercussions.
I remember, the military arrived,
the emergency services arrived.
There was a response by police, the fire brigade
by the Civil Defence Organization.
There was a response by the Commonwealth Police.
There is a report from a witness who was a news stringer at the time
that a cordon was thrown up around the streets of Westall,
by, uh, police officers in uniforms
that were a little unknown to him
using vehicles that were a little unknown to him,
but they looked like police officers and police vehicles.
And when he returned to the TV station later that day,
he was informed that, yes, they were Commonwealth police officers,
not Victorian state police officers,
the Commonwealth police officers.
So it looked like there was some involvement at that level as well.
Japan Airlines Flight 1628
en route to Tokyo from Paris when the crew noticed
two UFOs with flowing lights, which flew next to the plane
in patterns and speeds which were unachievable
with modern aviation.
Controller had asked the military man, Do you see anything?
The military guy says, Yes, I have a target
at such and such. One o'clock and eight miles
from the Japanese pilot, 747.
The military man said something like, uh,
Yeah, I see him 35 miles north of, uh, Anchorage,
and who's that at eleven or one o'clock in his position?
The FAA controller said, uh, I don't have anybody. You have anybody?
He said, It's not mine. And he came back and said, We have no traffic here.
And a couple of times during the operation,
the Japanese pilot would say
He's now at eleven o'clock, he's now at one o'clock, he's now at three o'clock,
and he's bouncing around just right here, and...
Well, he would say that the military guy would cut in and say,
He's now at two o'clock, three o'clock, and he would confirm the position.
The military controller has what they call height finding radar
and they have long-range radar and short-range radar.
So, if they don't catch it on one of their systems, they catch it on the other.
And if you listen to the military man
at one time, he said, I have it on the height radar or my range radar,
whatever he called it,
which indicated that he had a target on his system.
Ours wouldn't record it.
While they... They ran through for the best part of 31 minutes,
the UFO would be in one position
and the other following Japanese 747.
After a while, uh, they changed his altitude.
It still stayed with him. They gave him a 360.
When you're a 747 and you make a 360,
it takes you a few minutes to turn around.
You cover a lot of space.
It still stayed with him. It was either in the front, or the side or behind him.
...210, I approve 1628 to make deviations
as necessary for traffic. The traffic stayed with 1628
through turns and descents in the vicinity of Fairbanks.
It's another very interesting...
We can call this a Men In Black incident in a way.
And by the way, relating to that encounter,
good old Philip J. Klass,
was able to work his way with his organization, which is called CSICOP,
the Committee... Scientific Committee to Investigate Claims
of the Paranormal.
They have a different name now.
And they were able to get a piece in The New York Times.
You know, during all of that, to debunk the whole thing and say,
Well, it's just the planet Jupiter.
You guys don't know what you're seeing. You made a big mistake.
But in 1986, we have an interesting occurrence.
On November 17th of that year, there was a flight called
JAL, Japan Airlines, Flight 1628
from Tokyo, and they were going over the...
Over like in the Arctic Circle area, actually, flying down
over the state of Alaska,
when this entire 29-minute recorded incident occurred
in which this airliner was accosted
by an enormous, absolutely enormous object.
That, uh, there's drawings of it by the pilot,
whose name was, uh, Kenju Terauchi.
And uh, it's almost like this massive, like the planet Saturn
it's like this big, big, roundish object.
They're watching and they're scared out of their mind,
and they've got it on their airborne radar.
It's... Ground radar also is tracking this thing.
And, uh, as I recall, at least one other airliner in the area,
saw this thing visually.
There is lots of data points here.
What's interesting about this case is that they're flying side by side,
this gigantic object, and it releases a smaller object.
Or at least I think it must release it
because the smaller object gets in front of their cockpit.
And in fact, it's... It's two of them...
where this...
The cockpit is bathed in this green light for a while.
But as they're flying, these objects are pacing them.
Like they're in front of the cockpit.
With maneuverability that's...
Like, there's no way to explain how these objects
could do the things that they're doing.
Uh, they eventually depart. You can imagine the fear.
So, Terauchi is getting permission
to try to move his aircraft differently
just to get away from this thing.
And the entire experience lasted for 29 minutes.
In terms of the actual observation.
The next day,
I get a call from someone with the scientific study group
or the CIA, I'm not sure who was it the first time.
And they want to know, uh...
They had some questions about the incident,
and I had said, I don't know what you're talking about.
You'd probably want to call the Admiral.
Few minutes later, the Admiral calls down and says,
I set up a...
A briefing tomorrow morning at nine or ten o'clock, whatever it was.
In the round room,
bring all the stuff you have, bring everybody up there
and give them whatever they want.
So that's interesting enough. In the aftermath of that,
there was an FAA, Federal Aviation Administration meeting,
where they are discussing this, they've got all the radar data.
In this meeting,
this is now according to one of the men who attended,
his name is John Callahan. He was an FAA,
a senior official with the Federal Aviation Administration.
And so what happened, according to Callahan's
very vivid, explicit testimony,
was that at one point, these two men
in dark suits enter the room.
No one knows where they're from.
Is it assumed that they're from CIA?
I don't think that's ever made clear where these guys are from,
but there they come in and they confiscate
all of the data.
They are warning everyone,
You are never, ever, ever going to talk about this ever again.
We're taking all of your evidence.
Callahan kept his copy.
That was the thing. He didn't give it up.
He didn't let them know, they didn't ask.
I don't think they asked him directly for it.
And he just kind of slid below the radar,
as it were in this meeting,
and left with it with his copy of the radar data.
And it was, uh, 13 years later, I think,
from... In the late '90s,
where he is interviewed by Steven Greer
of the disclosure project at that time
and told his story.
Uh, and so, what you've got here
is another incident of...
Very clear this is...
This is not a paranormal Men In Black experience
by any means. This is... These are government guys.
These are spooks who are confiscating the evidence.
Now, who are they?
Are they CIA? Are they NSA? Are they something else?
Are they from the Majestic 12, or whatever, whatever,
you know, comparable organization it would be to Majestic 12.
Maybe it's called Zodiac. That's a very possible... That's a big possibility.
But they're from a group
that their job was to take that UFO data.
And Callahan is really worth listening to.
He's a very... He's a very upfront,
extremely candid, very articulate,
very smart man.
And he's got the credibility
and the background to back up what he said.
That's the thing that makes him so compelling.
When they read the reports that come through,
the FAA has to protect themselves.
You can't say, you saw a target,
even though this is what he said,
so they made him change his report
to position symbols,
which makes it sound like it wasn't really a target.
Well, if that's not a target than a lot of the other position symbols
that we're separating from our targets either.
When I read that, I thought that is something fishy here,
that somebody's worried about something rather than trying to cover up.
Who did the Men In Black work for?
CIA, the FBI, the NSA, something else entirely?
Even in the military, the Men In Black are a mystery.
Over the years, encounters with Men In Black
have decreased as their legend has grown
even into pop culture.
No longer are you interrogated
and threatened by a government spook
or a nameless agent from an unknown cabal of organizations.
As proxies continue debunking and smearing credible witnesses,
the Men In Black have evolved their technique
to control the narrative through misinformation.
Literally, fake news.
Take Richard Doty, former special agent of the Air Force,
who was tasked with infiltrating the UFO community
to instill doubt and misinformation of UFO encounters.
Men In Black have always been present in the UFO community
since back in the '50s and '60s,
and if the sighting
or a report of a sighting or acquisition of photographs
were important to the government,
the UF... The MIB, Men In Black would show up
trying to obtain what information these witnesses had
regarding the sighting or the acquisition of photographs.
If they took some photographs,
uh, the MIB would show up, trying to get those photographs.
Ever since the '50s, people started to see, uh...
Started seeing flying objects,
reporting flying objects.
Um, depending on the accuracy and the credibility
of the people that observe these objects.
Uh, and depending on what the government knew about,
what those sightings were,
uh, it would be dependent on whether the government went out
and got the information or tried to quiet the people,
the witnesses that saw it.
Uh, so... But... But it's happened.
It's real, it's a controversial subject matter
both within the public and within the government.
But, um, my knowledge is I've worked...
I've actually been involved in the Men In Black,
and we didn't call it Men In Black,
but there were people within a certain agency
within the government.
Um, the Air Force Special Activities Center.
Uh, they're the ones that control these Men In Black.
It was a unit stationed at Fort Belvoir, uh, Virginia,
that dealt with uh, obtaining information from witnesses.
Uh, but I've...
The controversy, of course, centers around
how these Men In Black,
number one, who they were? Number two,
how they obtained the information from witnesses?
And number three, what they... Where that information went
after they... After the Men In Black got the information?
Now, these... These Men In Black, as you call them,
uh, that are prominent within the UFO community
are... They have a mission.
They're assigned to an intelligence unit.
Uh, they're given a mission to go out and interview these witnesses
that saw this, or that already reported
a sighting or collection of data, pictures, so forth.
Evidence.
And so they're out there on a mission.
Now, how they operate that from that point on
uh, is really up to them.
How are they gonna get that information? If you're the...
If you're the witness and uh, we've tried
officially, where two Air Force officers
come to you in uniform,
not the Men In Black, but in uniform,
come to you and say,
Hi, we're from the United States Air Force.
And I understand you have pictures of something
that you saw last week
and we would like to see them because we think that...
those pictures
could be of a classified project.
So we would... We would like you
to show them to us.
Well, if you say, They're my pictures, I took them.
I don't have anything. You're military.
You have no jurisdiction over me.
No, bye. And so, the Air Force officers leave.
The next day or two days or three days later,
you're visited by two other men.
I'm U.S. Government credentials.
And I...
And you took pictures of a classified aircraft
yesterday or whenever,
and we need to look at those pictures.
And you only have one way of doing this.
You have to turn them over to us
or we're gonna go to the court of law.
or some other threat.
So, those are the type of operations that I've seen.
Uh, been involved with.
Um, whether they eventually turn it over.
If they don't, there's other means
that they can... They can use.
But there's other ways. A surreptitious entry into your home.
You come home one night from the movies, or going out for dinner
and you come home and you find,
your house to be perfectly the way that you left it,
except that where those pictures were stored,
the pictures are gone.
Or the opposite will happen.
You come home, the window will be broken,
We had a burglar.
And they stole this, they stole my television
they stole this. Oh, and also stole those pictures.
Now it looks like a burglar.
So you call the local police, you tell local police.
And the local police, is going to say, Well, so you had pictures taken,
you know, there's nothing we can do about that.
Paul Bennewitz, was a successful entrepreneur
and scientist who lived in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
There, he unintentionally stumbled into radio transmissions
from a secret military base just beyond the border of his city.
Later, this base would become known as Dulce Base.
Bennewitz was then contacted and influenced by Richard Doty.
Little did he know he would become a victim
of a mass misinformation campaign
that would end in tragedy.
Now, there is one person who has called himself
a Man In Black, who's very well known
in the UFO community and that is Richard Doty.
And Richard Doty, was a member of the Air Force Office
of Special Investigation, AFOSI.
It's like the Air Force's, their version of the CIA,
you can say, their intelligence agency.
Part of his job was to protect U.S. Air Force technology,
secrets, and things like this.
And one of the things that the Air Force would do
to protect those secrets is...
Like, there's one instance that I know Doty has talked about
in which there is a crash of a...
A secret experimental aircraft,
and witnesses actually had photographed it.
And you have a situation of AFOSI going to meet
with these witnesses or this witness,
and to say, Look, this is a UFO,
or let... Let them believe it was a UFO
and confiscate the images.
Rather than let them know,
Yeah, you actually photographed something that we're building
that we don't want anyone to know about.
Don't you think it's a UFO?
Did you ever see a craft operated like that?
You just have to put that idea in your minds,
And I go back to the Paul Bennewitz, uh, case...
which I was intimately involved with.
Um, Paul was already a believer
and what he was doing, he was taking pictures
of the U.S. Air Force highly classified drone projects.
The project was highly classified.
I went to Paul,
and Paul was already a believer, he was already a member of MUFON.
So it was very easy for him...
For me, I said, What do you think it is, Paul?
He said, I think it is UFO. I think it's alien craft.
I said, You know what?
Could very well be.
That's all I had to say.
And Paul ran with it, and believed it.
And the rest is... Is history.
You know, you can believe this or not,
at least some of those things that witnesses photographed
were not ours, and they were not Russian.
So there were instances, according to him,
this is my understanding, in which...
There are objects that were not from here, but they...
wanted that information as well.
Now, again, is this true or not, who knows?
uh, we were able to... And this isn't classified anymore.
One of the things that Paul Bennewitz had also, uh,
kind of stumbled into by recording signals
was our ability to shoot a laser
uh, at a ground based laser station up into space.
And as the Soviet satellite came over,
that laser would hit the lens
and blind the satellite
while it's going over a certain base preventing that
satellite to take pictures of the base.
Now, there was a satellite base,
Kirtland Air Force Base and one at Groom Lake.
There was actually two out at Groom Lake
and one at different locations.
And that's when every time
a Soviet satellite would come over,
they'd shoot that laser up and blind it.
So they wouldn't be able to take a picture of what was on the ground.
But here's what we know about Mr. Bennewitz.
He was a very smart,
capable defense contractor, lived in Albuquerque,
right by Kirtland Air Force Base
by the Manzano weapons storage facility,
which was very important.
And his office was right across from there,
and he witnessed things that were, he believed,
were very strange. We're talking, um...
1979, 1980.
And Bennewitz was a real patriot.
And he contacted the Air Force.
He said, Look, I'm recording things over there that are...
They... These are like UFOs. And he openly told them,
I think we're talking November 1980.
And this is when Doty gets alerted to this
and he is sent along with other individuals.
Doty's not the only one. They go to visit Bennewitz
to find out, like, What does this guy have?
And the reality, apparently, is that
Doty and Bennewitz became genuine friends.
Um, I mean, probably his job was to befriend Bennewitz,
but I... I do think that they actually ended up liking each other.
But Doty was working Bennewitz
and his job, absolutely, was to protect any secrets
that the folks over at Kirtland needed him to protect.
That was his job.
So, you know, according to how Doty has often told this story,
and I think this part we can say is true.
Bennewitz was a very, very strong UFO believer to start with.
And even before he was seeing things over by Kirtland,
um, he was involved in at least one,
let's call it an investigation
of a cattle mutilation incident and abduction,
uh, relating to a woman named Myrna Hansen,
who went through hypnotic regression,
uh, I believe in fact, by Dr. Leo Sprinkle,
who's a very well known individual in this,
and Bennewitz was there and they...
And Myrna Hansen was regressed
and she gave a very detailed, very detailed account
of being taken to an underground facility.
It's, like, very heavy duty stuff.
So Bennewitz was deeply involved in all of this.
Then he sees all of...
You know, he sees things,
and he's recording, uh, emissions that he believes
are like a form of alien communication.
So with that, Doty and his team go to talk to Bennewitz.
And, um,
did Doty explicitly give Bennewitz false information?
Or did he show Bennewitz things
and let Bennewitz draw his own conclusions?
I think definitely the latter happened,
and maybe some of the former happened also.
Um, for example, there is one story where...
Where Doty took Bennewitz. to, uh, Dulce, New Mexico.
Now, Dulce has a legitimate history of bizarre
cattle mutilations and UFO activity.
I've been there myself. And, in fact, I spoke to
members of the Gomez family in Dulce some years ago.
This is a family that lost, I think, over 50 head of cattle
to mutilations during that period of time.
Um, there's reason to think that it might be beyond human,
and there's reason to think that there are definitely
human intelligence operators there as well.
There's a lot of strange things that happened over at Dulce.
So, and over at Dulce, you've got
Mount Archuleta and Archuleta Peak.
Uh, yeah, I think that's it.
So, there's these two large structures there,
and there have long been rumors of underground facilities there.
And, um...
And in fact, I think that there probably were
underground facilities there.
I recall distinctly speaking to Edmundo Gomez many years ago
who was the son of...
Of, um, the senior Gomez at the time,
and Edmundo told me, he said, Look, in the early '70s,
we could hear all kinds of construction sounds coming out of there
and we all believed, he said, that there was
some kind of construction going on at Dulce.
That's his opinion.
In any case, Doty, uh, at one point takes Bennewitz
either on a helicopter or aircraft,
I can't remember which,
and they fly around Archuleta Peak, and...
And Bennewitz draws the conclusion
that there is an underground base there.
And, uh, according... I think this is how, uh, Greg Bishop wrote about this
in his study of this called Project Beta,
uh, that there were, like...
Like these fake artifacts put up by the Air Force
to make Bennewitz think
that there was all of this activity going on
and make him think there was a big UFO thing happening there.
Uh, and also to lead him away
from his fixation on Kirtland
to get him to look at Dulce.
That was part of this,
at least according to Bishop's research.
On December 26, 1980,
Great Britain's most notorious UFO incident
occurred at a United States Air Force base
in Rendlesham Forest.
Security personnel Jim Penniston,
John Burroughs and Edward Cabansag
were alerted by radio that a UFO was seen
moving in the forest on the perimeter of the base.
They made their way out to the edge of the forest
and as they made their way in,
eventually they stood right in front
of something they could only describe as being from out of this world.
This small triangular metallic craft
had strange symbols etched into its surface.
It emanated a vibrant glow that lit up the canopy of the forest,
and it was almost soundless.
It is said that the craft took off in an instant
from the forest floor
as if it disappeared into the night sky before them.
These three eye witnesses made their way back to the base by car,
where many other observers of the UFO were stationed.
As they arrived, they were surprised to have
men in civilian clothing waiting for them.
And to quote John Burroughs,
There were gentlemen there with sunglasses,
who took Jim and Ed off somewhere.
We no longer saw them after we traded in our weapons,
and I felt betrayed because they wouldn't talk to me anymore.
What was said to them to clam them up so tight?
I have no idea.
This story follows an age old pattern
of a prominent Men In Black cover up.
A UFO incident occurs.
Experiencers witness something that shouldn't exist
in our conventionally understood reality.
A meeting then follows between these experiencers
and the Men In Black which strikes fear in them
to never speak about what they saw or experienced.
I served in the United States Air Force
for six years from 1992 to 1998.
First three years were at Elmendorf Air Force Base in Alaska,
and the other three years were at Fort George G. Meade
in Maryland, the home of NSA.
Now, my role for NSA was as a computer technician,
primarily systems and network administration
for a specific surveillance crew.
I cannot get into specifics of what exactly we were surveilling,
uh, but essentially, I offered computer support
for those that were performing this function.
Of course, I had a top secret clearance.
A, uh, TS/SCI clearance specifically,
and that is very compartmentalized.
Now, on occasion, we did have a need
to, uh, exit, uh, the NSA campus and go to an off-site location.
And there are a plethora of these types of locations
across the country.
And these locations were basically hidden in plain sight.
You know, they would be at, uh, you know, just small,
you know, maybe strip malls that were out of the way.
So they just had some local businesses,
uh, some different offices, that sort of thing.
And when we would have to go to these locations,
we could not arrive in our military attire.
Uh, they did not want it to be known
that this was actually a, uh, government operation
and the military was involved.
So we were required, as protocol,
to dress in black suits and a tie
to go to these locations.
...being interrogated. I just don't. And I don't know if...
I don't know. I mean, I, I don't know.
Was that, uh... Was that an MIB experience?
You know, black helicopters, uh.
You know, military, uh, abductions that happen sometimes.
People are taken and then they talk about
them being visited by, you know, military personnel
and re, debriefed about their abduction.
So, Dan Aykroyd, the actor, the comedian,
has a very interesting story about Men In Black as well,
and, um, it's funny I have my own little oblique connection to this.
Very, very small.
But in 2002, Dan Aykroyd had a TV show called Out There.
And, uh, it was a UFO show.
Dan Aykroyd, of course,
everyone knows Dan Aykroyd is very interested in UFOs.
He's very knowledgeable.
He knows this field, he's very sophisticated with it.
And he wanted to do a serious treatment of the UFO subject.
And in fact, uh, this is 2002, and I was, uh...
I was one of the new guys in the field at that time,
and I had, actually, myself gotten a communication from his team,
and they were interested in interviewing me for this show.
So I was excited. I thought, Oh, this is awesome!
I'll get to... Maybe I'll get to meet Dan Aykroyd.
Uh, and then I discovered, no, the show fell through no more,
and I won't get my opportunity.
So what's interesting is that, uh, the day that that show was canceled,
has a very interesting story.
So according to what Aykroyd said, he's out taking a break,
having a smoke outside.
And there's a very unsettling man, in black,
who's at some distance,
but I don't think that far, who's staring at him.
It's unsettling to Aykroyd.
The man is dressed in black, he's got a car, a black car.
He looks away and then looks over.
And the man and the car are gone.
Um, apparently in such a way
that it didn't make sense to him,
that it just disappeared in such a way.
Right after that,
right after that, he's back inside.
He gets a phone call from his producer,
who tells him, without an explanation, by the way,
that the show's been canceled.
No more shooting. It's over.
End of story.
Big mystery.
So it was, Oh, hi, Britney.
Sure. Oh, of course, I'd love to do...
Guy gives me a dirty look.
Oh, well, sure.
Car gone.
That's what happened.
And, uh, then two hours later,
uh, we were told that we were not to continue taping
and the show was canceled and none of them would air.
I don't know. I mean, I... I don't know.
Was that, uh... Was that an MIB experience?
So there's a very interesting, let's say, creepy,
uh, video that is available of two apparent Men In Black.
Uh, and this has to do with, uh,
an event that took place at Niagara Falls.
Now, I don't know the date of this.
The video itself was posted to YouTube in 2013,
and it's very interesting.
So, what you have is a situation where a...
A hotel employee at Niagara Falls,
uh, the night before had sh...
Apparently had shot a very impressive video
of a vivid and, I think, large UFO
over Niagara Falls.
The very next day called in sick.
And on that day that he'd called in sick, uh,
there are these very two odd men,
very intimidating-looking men
and all of this is caught on the hotel, uh, security camera.
And it's interesting because you see all the hotel traffic,
people coming in and out, out of the hotel.
And then you see these two very, fairly large men
in these big black trench coats with hats.
And the... At least one of the people there is, like,
obviously intimidated by them and walks away.
You can see that in the video.
So, they go in.
And furthermore, when you see, at least to my view,
one of them walked in a very odd way.
Like his feet were not positioned
in the way that you would normally see.
If you look carefully, like, there, he's...
His feet are positioned in an odd way.
In any case, um,
what's interesting about the video is
you have one person, primarily,
but there's two people in this video talking,
but these are the hotel employees,
and they're describing what happened in this encounter.
And, essentially, they come in
and they're looking for this employee, who's not there.
And they scare the hell out of this one woman who's working there.
She gets to deal with these two giant men
in these big black trench coats
with these enormous blue eyes
that never blink, according to her.
And they're scaring her to death, asking for this guy.
And she actually just broke down crying during the encounter,
apparently, uh, according to the person telling the story,
who was another employee, a coworker of hers.
Uh, they wanted this film.
They wanted this video, and they...
You know, what's... What's very interesting is
that you've got this recording on a hotel security camera.
And the only, you know, what, what are the...
What's going on here?
It's... It's either a massive hoax
that the entire hotel staff
wanted to participate in and create this thing.
All right, I suppose that's a possibility.
Or it's true, or it really happened
the way that it seems to happen.
And I don't... I don't know what to say about it.
You know, I don't know, uh, the names of any of the people.
Have they been interviewed subsequently?
Do we have names? What happened to the employee?
What happened to the film that he shot, the video?
Uh, there's a lot of unanswered questions in this story,
like, we just have to acknowledge that.
On the other hand, when you look at this, you listen to it...
Look, I just have to say, it sounds potentially believable,
and I have to leave it at that.
I don't... I don't know what my full determination is on this, for all time,
but I certainly will admit, it's...
It catches my imagination.
It really makes me wonder if it actually did happen.
UFO encounters have been mired in suppression,
skepticism, and covert tactics, termed, The Truth Embargo.
This truth has now been considered credible
and worth investigating by the Department of Defense.
A recent news release indicates the military
is again funding research to the UAP
otherwise known as the UFO phenomenon.
If there is a long history of information suppression quite evident,
then should we trust the newfound interest in the UFO phenomenon
by the U.S. Government?
Should witnesses and experiencers
be the ones in which we look to for information
regarding this reality?
Perhaps the government should be the safe place
to consider relevant information on the topic.
If that is the case, then the U.S. Government
will have to regain the public trust
and undo decades of The Truth Embargo
enacted by the Men In Black.
The government would have to admit
to the said suppression of information in the past,
provide reparations for those targeted by the Men In Black,
release all the credible documentation
that has been scrutinized by the U.S. Department of Defense
over the past 70 years,
and, finally, provide a clear explanation
for how this should affect
everyone's belief system going forward.
We are not alone.
The real question is:
Will the powers that be ever stop using
Men In Black tactics to control the narrative?
♪ Just move along
♪ And there's really no escape No matter what you do
♪ The Men In Black Keep coming back
♪ And watching over you
♪ You take the hills
♪ And I'll just keep This dusty road
♪ Let's get out together
♪ While keeping our mouth closed
Ha-ha.
♪ There's really no escape No matter what you do
♪ The Men In Black Keep coming back
♪ And watching over you
♪ You take the hills And I'll just keep This dusty road
♪ Let's get out together While keeping our mouth closed
♪ Run away
♪ The faster
♪ The better now
♪ Run away
♪ The faster you go
♪ More will grow