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Thanks.
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Yeah, so I'll be
watching the game...
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What?
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Hi!
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He couldn't know
that, at this very moment,
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people meeting in secret
all over the country
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were holding up their glasses
and saying in hushed voices,
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"To Harry Potter,
the boy who lived."
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- Dan.
- Hey, man.
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It's great to see you.
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- How you doing, dude?
- How are you, mate?
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It's so nice to see you.
This is awesome.
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- This is incredible.
- Yeah, it is.
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Last time we were here,
you were shorter.
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I'm just...
just very, very slightly.
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That's kind of you to say.
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- Here we are.
- 20 years down the road.
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- Yeah.
- It's kind of odd.
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How did it come to you?
Like, I never...
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I would never
get to ask this question.
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Like, how did you end up
doing "Harry Potter"?
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I ended up doing it
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because my daughter Eleanor
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convinced me to read the books
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after I refused three times.
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So once "Prisoner of Azkaban"
came out, I said...
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Thank you, Eleanor.
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I said, "Okay,
I'll read these, finally."
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And then immediately,
I saw the movies.
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I just saw them.
And that hasn't happened since.
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Then I had to fly to Edinburgh
to meet Jo Rowling
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and essentially said,
"This is my vision."
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She said, "That's exactly
the way I see the movie."
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When the books came out,
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the queues of kids
around the block...
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I mean, thousands of them
all waiting for the latest one.
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So many people were beginning
to fall in love
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with JK Rowling's writing.
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I think I probably would have
been about eight years old.
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I think that's when
the first one came out.
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It became, like,
our family thing.
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My dad used to do
all the voices,
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and my brother and I
just became obsessed.
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We would just beg him
to keep going.
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And every time
he finished a chapter,
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we'd be like, "One more,
one more, please.
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"Just one more.
Please, please, please.
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One more, one more,
one more, one more."
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A friend of mine at school
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had the first two.
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And I went for a sleepover
at his house and he said,
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"Well, 'Philosopher's Stone'
is there on the bookshelf."
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That's what we did
the whole sleepover.
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We just both sat there
in silence,
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him reading
"Chamber of Secrets,"
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me reading
"Philosopher's Stone."
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And that was it, really.
I never looked back.
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At the time of reading,
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we instantly related
to Fred and George
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because there aren't
many twins in literature.
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"The Chamber of Secrets"
was the first book
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that I sort of genuinely
stayed up at night reading.
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The writing was so vivid,
the characters so relatable.
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It was such a intricately,
perfectly designed universe.
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I think it's very easy
to forget that, at the time,
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people were talking about,
like, the death of reading.
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I just think it's a beautiful
creative outlook on life,
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this belief
in limitless possibilities.
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One of the many reasons
I admired JK so much
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is that millions
would now read books
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who would never have lifted
a book up in their lives.
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And you suddenly realize
the power of writing.
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Hip, hip, Harry!
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And then in terms of casting,
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it was... the search
for Harry Potter was insane.
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The new "Harry Potter" film
are looking for children
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to play the three main roles in
the multi-million-pound film.
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I remember going to the...
the very first audition,
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and there was hundreds
if not thousands of people.
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And then we realized that
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we were the only set
of twins there
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who weren't wearing
identical clothing.
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So we ended up
going over the road
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and bought two identical
matching tops.
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- Just off the rack.
- Just off the rack.
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We were like,
"Right, they will do."
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And then off we went.
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They'd let us all mill,
you know, sort of congregate
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till they "seemingly"
walked away,
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and, of course, while there's
still one gentleman
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holding a boom mic
straight over our heads.
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And this little girl
asked me, "What's that?"
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I think I even said,
"It's a mic, duh."
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I was like,
"They're filming us.
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This is just, like, a trick."
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Like, as if I'd done it
before, really.
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And I remember it,
'cause it was Emma.
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I became completely gripped
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by the excitement
around this audition.
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And I always knew
that I was going for Hermione
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in a way that I think
terrified my parents
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because they were like,
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"What are we gonna do with her
if she doesn't get the part?"
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I was just excited.
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I wasn't sort of daunted.
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I wasn't thinking,
"I wonder how many
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films they're gonna make,"
anything like that.
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I thought,
"Oh, this will be fun."
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I think the biggest pressure
at the beginning
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was who was gonna be
Harry Potter.
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We couldn't find Harry.
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We couldn't...
we just couldn't find Harry,
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and it was getting
kind of weird,
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um, and panicky.
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I was in my hotel room
in London one night
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watching the BBC version
of "David Copperfield."
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Immediately, a light bulb
went off in my head,
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and I said,
"This is Harry Potter."
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This is the kid we've been
looking for for months.
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So I asked
the casting director,
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I said, "We've gotta get him
in here for an audition."
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She said,
"It's never gonna happen.
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"His parents do not want him
involved in this world.
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They don't want him
to take this role."
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I think the deal
was to sign on for, like,
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all seven films and they would
be filmed in LA.
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So Mum and Dad were like,
"No, that's, like,
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a huge disruption to his life."
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Fortunately, David Heyman,
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uh, went to the theater
a few weeks later.
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These two guys
in the row in front of me
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started sort of turning round.
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David, being the great
producer that he is,
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convinced Dan's father to bring
Dan in for an audition.
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And that's basically
when we got our Harry Potter.
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And action.
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- That's a dragon egg.
- What is it?
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- That's what that is.
- What is that?
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A dragon egg.
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- Uh-huh.
- Yeah.
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I was a very happy kid who had
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a really haunted quality,
apparently.
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"You're really sweet,
but you looked like
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you had real, like,
stuff going on."
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It was very emotional,
actually, seeing this kid
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sitting there talking,
and I just thought,
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"Yeah, that's him.
Thank God we found him."
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Rupert and Emma
were very easy to cast
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because they felt like
they jumped off the page.
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We screen-tested
the three of them together
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to make sure that
they all had this chemistry,
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which immediately was obvious
in the first screen test.
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Remember, guys,
get closer to her
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as she finds out
the information.
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And action.
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I never thought
to look in here.
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I checked this out first term
for a bit of light reading.
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- This is light?
- Shut up.
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If Filch comes around
the corner any second now,
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at least 50 points
off Gryffindor.
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I knew it! Here it is.
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Nicholas Flamel
is the only known
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maker of the Sorcerer's Stone.
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The what?
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Oh, honestly,
don't you two read?
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Cut. Good job.
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It's lovely seeing you.
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Yeah, this is surreal,
isn't it?
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How do we all feel being back
and talking about this?
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Well, A, really emotional,
obviously.
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And B, um, it feels like
no time has passed
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and loads of time has passed
simultaneously.
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Yeah, kind of much the same.
It's quite surreal.
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It doesn't feel like
much time has passed.
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It doesn't feel like we've
kind of earned a reunion yet.
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- Yeah.
- I know.
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I have had kidney stones
and a baby,
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so time has obviously passed.
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- You did mention that.
- I feel my age.
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But there is, like,
such a collection
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of, like, shared memories
and stuff
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that we just all did together
that it is
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immediately
very easy to be, like...
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to sort of slip back
into where you were.
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Our first audition, the...
the day we all met...
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- Oh, my God, yeah.
- I think for the first time,
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there was, like, me walking
out of my dressing room
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and seeing, like,
another, like,
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young, brown-haired boy
going the other way.
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I never saw his face,
but I was like,
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"You are clearly another Harry
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that is being
tested out today."
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- And they were, like...
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Testing us with various
different configurations
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of Ron, Harry, and Hermione.
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I remember there was one
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where they put all
the three of us together.
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I do remember that
when it was the three of us,
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- something felt different...
- Right. Yeah.
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And, like, right and easy.
I do remember the click.
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We'd been out
at the studios.
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They'd told us we got the parts
and they were like, "Cool.
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"So we're announcing
you've got the parts.
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There is now going to be a lot
of media outside your house."
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So you can't go home."
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So far, it's sort of
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turned things upside down.
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Um, it's... I don't know,
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I've never had anything
happen to me like this before.
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Hermione made
complete sense to me.
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That's me.
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Like, I am that girl.
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Well, Emma was arguably
the smartest person on the set,
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and I'm talking
about everybody.
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She just was...
she was a brilliant kid.
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I think I'm scarily
like my character.
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'Cause I live in a family
of, um, seven
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and, um, I've got
a redheaded sister
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and I live in a burrow.
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Rupert is just the most
camera-ready
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12-year-old boy in the world
at that point.
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Like, he was so,
like, just fearless.
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Rupert was Ron, you know,
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and Dan kind of was Harry.
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How do you feel
about becoming famous?
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It'd be cool.
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We were all talking about this,
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how comfortable you made us all
in our auditions
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and how, like, this, like,
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extended massively
into the set.
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My memory of it is that
it seemed effortless to you.
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Well, on the first film,
I was dying the entire time,
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but I just... I always believe
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you cannot bring
that kind of anxiety.
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I want everyone
to feel comfortable.
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I want everyone
to feel like it's a family.
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I want everyone
to feel like they're home.
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Hey, class, listen to me.
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Welcome to your first
flying lesson.
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I want you to raise your hand
over the broom.
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For the first several weeks
on the film,
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the kids
are basically in shock.
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Looking back, I am sort
of amazed at the fact
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that I wasn't ever, like,
completely overwhelmed by it.
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- Shh. Shh. Shh.
- Dan, when you turn away
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from her this time...
when you turn away,
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grab hold of this,
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and look up like you're
going to get it, okay?
249
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But I also think
that was, again, part of Chris
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and the whole crew just, like,
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they kept us having fun
the whole time.
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Obviously, we were just kids,
and we were all
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looking forward
to mucking about together.
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Chris Columbus
made the atmosphere
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very much like a funfair.
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We were very much just, like,
kids being kids on a set.
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- Mm-hmm.
- My residing memory
258
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from the first...
from "Philosopher's Stone"
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is I just learned
how to play slam.
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You know what we did a lot of
as well was that game.
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- Oh, my God.
- Slaps.
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- So much hand slaps.
- Oh, slaps.
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With, like, all of us,
like, red...
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00:14:21,477 --> 00:14:23,145
like, red, raw hands
from, like,
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- hitting each other really hard.
- I think we also upgraded
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- to knuckles as well.
- Oh, and shins.
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00:14:26,899 --> 00:14:28,233
- Yeah.
- I remember the shin version.
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- Mm-hmm.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Sorry. Gotta give it back.
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I am the champion!
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They probably made their jobs
harder for themselves
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by letting us have
as much fun as we had
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because it distracted us from,
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you know, the work
we were supposed to be doing.
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And for the other viewers,
get a mousetrap.
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Darling, don't put it
on your nose.
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You're gonna remove
all your makeup.
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Like, a big problem
was, like,
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throughout a take,
our attention would, like...
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would wane and come and go.
281
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They'd say a line and then
they'd smile at the camera
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where they were just so happy
to be in a Harry Potter film
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that they couldn't contain
their excitement long enough
284
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to focus on an entire scene.
285
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Guys, guys, guys, guys.
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Columbus had worked
with kids a lot.
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And he was terrific with them.
He really was.
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He used to go down on his knees
to talk to them
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and huddle around
so nobody could hear.
290
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He was such a dad as well.
291
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Like, and I... you could
really feel that,
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like you were kind of
part of his family.
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Be a little looser with this.
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And just be talking,
you know what I'm saying?
295
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- Yeah.
- You go up and you're, like,
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00:15:29,503 --> 00:15:31,255
frozen like this,
but you can be...
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"You really think"...
298
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"Of course I can use it,"
like this, okay?
299
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- Yeah.
- Good job, though.
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But it's not easy,
'cause it takes a tremendous
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amount of patience with kids,
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particularly with...
with kids as hyperactive
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and as excitable
as we all were.
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- Looking great.
- Well, they wanted to...
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Fancy seeing you boys here.
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- Hi.
- Snuck away.
307
00:15:53,026 --> 00:15:54,695
A couple of Gryffindors
just kicking it.
308
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- Come here.
- Good to see you, brother.
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00:15:57,698 --> 00:16:00,868
How did Chris Columbus stay
is such good... good spirits?
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00:16:00,951 --> 00:16:02,911
We sort of ran around.
I guess we were all, like, 11.
311
00:16:02,995 --> 00:16:05,205
You might get, like, three
people to do the right thing.
312
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But it doesn't mean you're
gonna get the other five
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in the background
doing the right thing.
314
00:16:08,208 --> 00:16:09,626
No. No. And Rupert
was... was relentless.
315
00:16:09,710 --> 00:16:11,253
Once he started...
once the flood gate open...
316
00:16:11,336 --> 00:16:13,005
- God, yeah.
- But that's the thing.
317
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That's the way it worked,
wasn't it?
318
00:16:14,673 --> 00:16:15,924
'Cause Columbus basically just
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- let us be kids.
- Yeah. True.
320
00:16:17,509 --> 00:16:19,303
I never recall feeling
like we were working.
321
00:16:19,386 --> 00:16:20,929
But that's so important,
isn't it, that we had that...
322
00:16:21,013 --> 00:16:22,431
Yeah. I think that's why
it feels that way
323
00:16:22,514 --> 00:16:23,724
when you watch it.
It feels like...
324
00:16:23,807 --> 00:16:25,267
- Yeah. That's true.
- Kids.
325
00:16:25,350 --> 00:16:26,602
I tell you what's funny
about that, though, is...
326
00:16:26,685 --> 00:16:28,270
is being surrounded
by all the...
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00:16:28,353 --> 00:16:30,647
the cream of the, um,
the British acting industry
328
00:16:30,731 --> 00:16:32,733
and not having a clue
who anyone is.
329
00:16:32,816 --> 00:16:34,651
I thought... I thought
Richard Harris worked here
330
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as like... as a tour guide
for a while.
331
00:16:40,657 --> 00:16:43,577
I don't think any of
the kids had the capability
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of understanding the gravity
333
00:16:45,412 --> 00:16:47,247
of who they were
dealing with at the time.
334
00:16:47,331 --> 00:16:49,875
That was no stranger
Hagrid met in the village.
335
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It was Snape, which means
336
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he knows how to get past
Fluffy.
337
00:16:53,754 --> 00:16:55,172
And with Dumbledore gone...
338
00:16:55,255 --> 00:16:56,673
Good afternoon.
339
00:16:56,757 --> 00:16:59,301
The British royalty
of the acting world.
340
00:16:59,384 --> 00:17:00,886
What have you got to say
for yourself?
341
00:17:00,969 --> 00:17:02,554
I swear I don't know
how it happened!
342
00:17:02,638 --> 00:17:04,932
When I think of the people
that I got to
343
00:17:05,015 --> 00:17:08,268
just grow up around
and hear... hear them interact
344
00:17:08,352 --> 00:17:10,854
and hear the quickness
of people.
345
00:17:10,938 --> 00:17:13,398
The adult actors came in
346
00:17:13,482 --> 00:17:15,484
and were, like, the mischief
in a funny way.
347
00:17:18,111 --> 00:17:19,279
That's actually great.
348
00:17:19,363 --> 00:17:20,822
Like Robbie Coltrane.
349
00:17:20,906 --> 00:17:21,949
He was such a kid.
350
00:17:22,032 --> 00:17:23,825
Like, so immature
351
00:17:23,909 --> 00:17:27,329
and, like, just so much fun.
352
00:17:27,412 --> 00:17:28,580
He loved making us laugh,
353
00:17:28,664 --> 00:17:30,457
and he was
incredibly good at it.
354
00:17:30,540 --> 00:17:32,709
I've tried
absolutely everything.
355
00:17:32,793 --> 00:17:35,379
I've tried creams.
I've tried jellies.
356
00:17:35,462 --> 00:17:36,838
I tried shaving.
357
00:17:36,922 --> 00:17:38,715
Every moment...
I woke up, it's like...
358
00:17:38,799 --> 00:17:40,968
my husband is threatening
to leave me.
359
00:17:41,051 --> 00:17:42,511
If he really loved me,
360
00:17:42,594 --> 00:17:44,888
he wouldn't mind a little
facial hair, I'm sure.
361
00:17:44,972 --> 00:17:47,349
But he's being very,
very difficult.
362
00:17:50,394 --> 00:17:52,854
That, like, kindness
and that warmth from you...
363
00:17:52,938 --> 00:17:55,190
- Aww.
- It made all the difference.
364
00:17:55,273 --> 00:17:57,025
Well, we spent
so much time together.
365
00:17:57,109 --> 00:17:59,236
I know. I know.
I spent more time with you
366
00:17:59,319 --> 00:18:01,029
than I did with my own
children at one point.
367
00:18:01,113 --> 00:18:02,114
I know. Wild.
368
00:18:02,197 --> 00:18:03,740
Ooh. I know.
369
00:18:03,824 --> 00:18:05,575
I think most of my
favorite scenes, if I'm honest,
370
00:18:05,659 --> 00:18:08,996
looking back, are with you
and the gang in Hagrid's hut.
371
00:18:09,079 --> 00:18:10,956
I keep thinking
about that scene
372
00:18:11,039 --> 00:18:12,541
- where I get called a mudblood.
- Yes.
373
00:18:12,624 --> 00:18:14,835
And you were so sweet
with me that day.
374
00:18:14,918 --> 00:18:17,045
'Cause it was, like, my first,
like, you know,
375
00:18:17,129 --> 00:18:18,463
big piece of acting.
376
00:18:23,093 --> 00:18:24,428
He called me a mudblood.
377
00:18:24,511 --> 00:18:26,888
He did not.
378
00:18:26,972 --> 00:18:28,223
What's a mudblood?
379
00:18:28,306 --> 00:18:30,142
It means dirty blood.
380
00:18:30,225 --> 00:18:33,061
Mudblood's a really foul name
for someone who is Muggle-born.
381
00:18:33,145 --> 00:18:36,481
Someone with non-magic parents.
Someone like me.
382
00:18:36,565 --> 00:18:38,692
The three of you have become
such great actors.
383
00:18:38,775 --> 00:18:40,110
Being on that set,
384
00:18:40,193 --> 00:18:42,279
you felt like you actually
entered the world.
385
00:18:42,362 --> 00:18:43,530
Yeah.
386
00:18:43,613 --> 00:18:45,032
With all of Stuart Craig's
sets,
387
00:18:45,115 --> 00:18:46,533
the attention to detail
was phenomenal.
388
00:18:51,329 --> 00:18:54,583
I was always adamant
that Hogwarts shouldn't feel
389
00:18:54,666 --> 00:18:58,837
as if it's a world
that couldn't exist in reality.
390
00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,089
I had a tremendous amount
of creative freedom,
391
00:19:01,173 --> 00:19:04,426
so we could build this world
from the ground up.
392
00:19:04,509 --> 00:19:07,304
Some of the sets on "Potter"
were overwhelming to me,
393
00:19:07,387 --> 00:19:08,889
and I'd been doing it
for 35 years.
394
00:19:08,972 --> 00:19:10,265
You know? "Oh, blimey."
395
00:19:10,348 --> 00:19:12,934
The very first time
I visited the set,
396
00:19:13,018 --> 00:19:14,811
they walked me through
the Great Hall,
397
00:19:14,895 --> 00:19:18,106
which was mind-blowing.
398
00:19:18,190 --> 00:19:20,609
All the floors
are real Yorkstone.
399
00:19:20,692 --> 00:19:22,778
A lot of those scenes
with 250 extras,
400
00:19:22,861 --> 00:19:24,654
they're all about 18
and trampling 'round.
401
00:19:24,738 --> 00:19:26,364
You're not gonna put
a plastic floor down.
402
00:19:26,448 --> 00:19:28,158
It's gotta be the real stuff.
403
00:19:28,241 --> 00:19:30,786
And all these lit candles
going up and down on wires.
404
00:19:30,869 --> 00:19:32,496
One of my favorite
moments on set ever
405
00:19:32,579 --> 00:19:34,122
was the moment
when all the floating candles
406
00:19:34,206 --> 00:19:35,832
started burning through
the ropes that tied them
407
00:19:35,916 --> 00:19:37,459
to the ceiling
and just started falling
408
00:19:37,542 --> 00:19:39,795
- around the Great Hall.
- Hundreds of real candles
409
00:19:39,878 --> 00:19:41,588
- that were really lit...
- "Oh, my God."
410
00:19:41,671 --> 00:19:44,633
On fishing line
from the ceiling.
411
00:19:44,716 --> 00:19:46,468
So much of that would
be visual effects now.
412
00:19:46,551 --> 00:19:48,053
The fact that we got
to actually be on that set...
413
00:19:48,136 --> 00:19:49,805
Actually, that's so true.
That's so cool.
414
00:19:49,888 --> 00:19:51,348
- Thank you, Stuart Craig.
- Yeah.
415
00:19:51,431 --> 00:19:52,974
- Yeah.
- We love you, Stuart Craig.
416
00:20:03,318 --> 00:20:05,237
The hardest scene to shoot
was Quidditch.
417
00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:06,488
And the audience had to
418
00:20:06,571 --> 00:20:07,989
understand the rules
immediately.
419
00:20:08,073 --> 00:20:10,534
Quidditch is easy enough
to understand.
420
00:20:10,617 --> 00:20:14,162
Each team has seven players:
three chasers, two beaters,
421
00:20:14,246 --> 00:20:16,832
one keeper,
and the seeker... that's you.
422
00:20:16,915 --> 00:20:20,210
So Jo Rowling basically did
a rule book for us.
423
00:20:20,293 --> 00:20:21,586
A Quidditch rule book
424
00:20:21,670 --> 00:20:24,840
explaining every detail
of the game.
425
00:20:24,923 --> 00:20:26,800
Then, with Stuart Craig,
our production designer,
426
00:20:26,883 --> 00:20:29,010
designed the look
of the Quidditch pitch
427
00:20:29,094 --> 00:20:34,015
and really create a pitch
that felt authentic and real
428
00:20:34,099 --> 00:20:37,018
for a game
that is completely unreal.
429
00:20:37,102 --> 00:20:40,021
Lots of energy, enthusiasm.
430
00:20:40,105 --> 00:20:41,523
Set and action!
431
00:20:41,606 --> 00:20:44,484
- She scores!
- Angelina Johnson scores!
432
00:20:44,568 --> 00:20:46,278
Ten points for Gryffindor.
433
00:20:46,361 --> 00:20:47,529
I always wanted
to tell you this,
434
00:20:47,612 --> 00:20:48,947
but there was a moment,
you know,
435
00:20:49,030 --> 00:20:50,323
on day two maybe or three,
436
00:20:50,407 --> 00:20:53,034
the camera pushes into you
and you say,
437
00:20:53,118 --> 00:20:54,578
"We're not going home,
not really."
438
00:20:54,661 --> 00:20:58,165
Feels strange to be
going home, doesn't it?
439
00:20:58,248 --> 00:21:00,417
I'm not going home.
440
00:21:00,500 --> 00:21:02,335
Not really.
441
00:21:02,419 --> 00:21:04,004
I got tears...
I still get tears in my eyes
442
00:21:04,087 --> 00:21:06,381
thinking about it.
I thought, "This guy...
443
00:21:06,464 --> 00:21:08,383
this kid is an amazing actor."
444
00:21:08,466 --> 00:21:10,635
- Oh, that's...
- And it was that moment
445
00:21:10,719 --> 00:21:12,846
that kind of opened up
the whole world for us.
446
00:21:12,929 --> 00:21:15,599
And the first film was very
storybook, very inviting.
447
00:21:15,682 --> 00:21:16,892
Yeah, it's lovely and...
448
00:21:16,975 --> 00:21:18,268
It's like,
"Welcome to Hogwarts."
449
00:21:18,351 --> 00:21:19,728
Until you get to the end
of the movie.
450
00:21:19,811 --> 00:21:21,354
And where a man...
I melt a man's face.
451
00:21:21,438 --> 00:21:22,731
Yes, exactly.
452
00:21:26,902 --> 00:21:29,654
- The first film was a hit.
- Yep.
453
00:21:29,738 --> 00:21:32,282
So once it became a hit
and people accepted
454
00:21:32,365 --> 00:21:33,575
not only the film
455
00:21:33,658 --> 00:21:35,076
- but accepted the cast...
- Right, yeah.
456
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,703
I had a ball
on the second film,
457
00:21:36,786 --> 00:21:39,206
"The Chamber of Secrets,"
'cause I was, like, free.
458
00:22:03,146 --> 00:22:06,191
Okay, come on. Shh, shh.
459
00:22:06,274 --> 00:22:07,817
Okay, come on.
460
00:22:09,361 --> 00:22:10,403
Shh, come on.
461
00:22:12,197 --> 00:22:14,115
Morning, Weasleys.
462
00:22:14,199 --> 00:22:15,784
Morning, Dad.
463
00:22:15,867 --> 00:22:19,079
I always loved any scene
where the kind of Weasleys
464
00:22:19,162 --> 00:22:20,622
were together,
like the Burrow scenes.
465
00:22:20,705 --> 00:22:22,290
It just had
this frenetic energy.
466
00:22:22,374 --> 00:22:25,126
Everyone kind of played
off each other.
467
00:22:25,210 --> 00:22:27,128
The thing about the Burrow
as I remember is that
468
00:22:27,212 --> 00:22:28,421
it changed all the time.
469
00:22:28,505 --> 00:22:30,090
It sort of expanded
and contracted.
470
00:22:30,173 --> 00:22:32,926
One minute, there was a huge
fireplace of floo powder
471
00:22:33,009 --> 00:22:36,221
and then there was just...
and then it got smaller.
472
00:22:36,304 --> 00:22:39,015
Yeah, it was like a living,
breathing set that changed.
473
00:22:39,099 --> 00:22:40,350
I feel like being a Weasley
474
00:22:40,433 --> 00:22:41,935
is the best part
of being in Harry Potter.
475
00:22:42,018 --> 00:22:44,354
We had, like, our Hogwarts
family but I felt, like,
476
00:22:44,437 --> 00:22:46,940
so special having
an actual extra family.
477
00:22:47,023 --> 00:22:48,525
- It was great.
- All these scenes that we got
478
00:22:48,608 --> 00:22:49,818
on top of everything else.
479
00:22:49,901 --> 00:22:51,611
Julie's brilliant
to work with.
480
00:22:51,695 --> 00:22:54,948
We used to... Ron would say,
"Hello, Mummy. Hello, Daddy."
481
00:22:55,031 --> 00:22:57,575
Julie Walters who played
my mother, Mrs. Weasley,
482
00:22:57,659 --> 00:23:00,453
was... was just so wonderful
and brilliant to me.
483
00:23:00,537 --> 00:23:02,497
She really kind of took me
under her wing
484
00:23:02,580 --> 00:23:04,874
and she just was, like,
the perfect mother figure.
485
00:23:04,958 --> 00:23:07,502
The twins were two people
that I was really close with.
486
00:23:07,585 --> 00:23:09,504
They really were like
older brothers.
487
00:23:09,587 --> 00:23:11,673
Julie Walters
and Mark Williams,
488
00:23:11,756 --> 00:23:13,383
they were like
my second family.
489
00:23:13,466 --> 00:23:14,884
They were always kind of
staying in character
490
00:23:14,968 --> 00:23:16,678
and they would have
this kind of...
491
00:23:16,761 --> 00:23:18,221
they would
bounce off each other.
492
00:23:18,305 --> 00:23:20,390
Dumbled... dom... mith.
493
00:23:20,473 --> 00:23:22,183
Who? Who, dear?
494
00:23:22,267 --> 00:23:24,185
Dumbledore must know
you're here, Harry.
495
00:23:25,770 --> 00:23:27,063
Cut.
496
00:23:27,147 --> 00:23:28,773
Stop, stop.
497
00:23:28,857 --> 00:23:30,525
This isn't working.
498
00:23:30,608 --> 00:23:31,693
Can't believe it.
499
00:23:31,776 --> 00:23:33,236
- You guys look great.
- Hello.
500
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:34,779
How are you?
This is amazing.
501
00:23:34,863 --> 00:23:36,031
- How're you guys doing?
- Very well, thank you.
502
00:23:36,114 --> 00:23:37,490
- How are you?
- Good.
503
00:23:37,574 --> 00:23:39,200
- This is so exciting.
- Yeah.
504
00:23:39,284 --> 00:23:40,618
It's the first time
I've been back since "Azkaban."
505
00:23:40,702 --> 00:23:42,370
We didn't know
you were gonna come back.
506
00:23:42,454 --> 00:23:46,207
The Weasley family values
were consideration,
507
00:23:46,291 --> 00:23:48,835
thoughtfulness, and fun!
508
00:23:48,918 --> 00:23:52,339
Now, Harry, you must know
all about Muggles.
509
00:23:52,422 --> 00:23:56,051
Tell me, what exactly is
the function of a rubber duck?
510
00:23:56,134 --> 00:23:58,678
It's just very natural
when we were all together.
511
00:23:58,762 --> 00:24:01,848
It was a family,
you know, in all but name.
512
00:24:01,931 --> 00:24:03,475
That's the cool thing about
it as well is that you see
513
00:24:03,558 --> 00:24:06,519
that... that motion
where they are very inclusive
514
00:24:06,603 --> 00:24:09,731
and then you see the complete
opposite with the Malfoys.
515
00:24:09,814 --> 00:24:11,816
Yeah, it's always such
a good comparison,
516
00:24:11,900 --> 00:24:13,151
the two families side by side.
517
00:24:13,234 --> 00:24:14,903
A real chalk and cheese
side of it.
518
00:24:14,986 --> 00:24:17,739
Not now, Draco. Play nicely.
519
00:24:19,449 --> 00:24:22,077
Mr. Potter.
520
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,621
Lucius Malfoy.
521
00:24:24,704 --> 00:24:26,373
We meet at last.
522
00:24:26,456 --> 00:24:27,874
I was first aware
of Harry Potter
523
00:24:27,957 --> 00:24:29,417
because everybody
was reading the books
524
00:24:29,501 --> 00:24:31,336
on the tube everywhere I went.
525
00:24:31,419 --> 00:24:33,088
I'm convinced I ended up
playing Lucius
526
00:24:33,171 --> 00:24:34,672
because I didn't want to.
527
00:24:34,756 --> 00:24:36,299
I went to audition
for Gilderoy Lockhart
528
00:24:36,383 --> 00:24:37,926
and Chris said,
"That was great.
529
00:24:38,009 --> 00:24:39,594
Would you mind reading
a different part?"
530
00:24:39,677 --> 00:24:41,805
I was about to play
Captain Hook in "Peter Pan"
531
00:24:41,888 --> 00:24:43,098
and I thought,
"Well, I don't wanna play
532
00:24:43,181 --> 00:24:44,599
two children's villains."
533
00:24:44,682 --> 00:24:47,227
And I read
through gritted teeth.
534
00:24:47,310 --> 00:24:48,770
I was deeply bitter,
535
00:24:48,853 --> 00:24:51,064
and, of course, that's exactly
what was necessary,
536
00:24:51,147 --> 00:24:54,442
and they asked me to play
Lucius, and thank God they did.
537
00:24:54,526 --> 00:24:56,444
How dare you?
538
00:24:56,528 --> 00:24:58,655
The point of him
being in the story to me
539
00:24:58,738 --> 00:25:01,700
was to explain why Draco
was such a horrible,
540
00:25:01,783 --> 00:25:04,911
heartless,
sadistic bully at school.
541
00:25:04,994 --> 00:25:07,831
Red hair
and a hand-me-down robe?
542
00:25:07,914 --> 00:25:10,083
You must be a Weasley.
543
00:25:10,166 --> 00:25:12,210
He's a product
of his parents, Draco,
544
00:25:12,293 --> 00:25:15,296
and he's got
really bad parents.
545
00:25:15,380 --> 00:25:17,090
If Hagrid
was your first influence,
546
00:25:17,173 --> 00:25:18,466
chances are, you're gonna be...
547
00:25:18,550 --> 00:25:19,968
"All right there, mate."
548
00:25:20,051 --> 00:25:21,511
You're gonna be lovely
and... and very huggy.
549
00:25:21,594 --> 00:25:24,180
Isn't he beautiful?
Oh, bless him.
550
00:25:24,264 --> 00:25:27,600
Look, he knows his mummy.
551
00:25:27,684 --> 00:25:29,477
Ooh!
552
00:25:30,562 --> 00:25:32,147
If your dad is a psychopath
553
00:25:32,230 --> 00:25:34,691
wielding a cobra cane about,
554
00:25:34,774 --> 00:25:36,985
you're probably not gonna be
the friendliest geezer.
555
00:25:37,068 --> 00:25:39,362
37, take one.
Camera mark.
556
00:25:39,446 --> 00:25:43,533
Tom, remember, slow.
You're telling a tale.
557
00:25:43,616 --> 00:25:47,162
But sinister, soft.
Set and action.
558
00:25:47,245 --> 00:25:49,497
I adored Tom
from the second I met him.
559
00:25:49,581 --> 00:25:52,459
He was always just
the biggest sweetheart.
560
00:25:52,542 --> 00:25:55,170
Working with Jason
was a real treat.
561
00:25:56,254 --> 00:25:58,715
In fact, working with Jason
was not always a treat.
562
00:25:58,798 --> 00:26:03,219
Just immediately turned
into the most unfriendly,
563
00:26:03,303 --> 00:26:05,430
horrible person I've ever met.
564
00:26:05,513 --> 00:26:08,224
I just remember grabbing him
and... and just being
565
00:26:08,308 --> 00:26:10,059
as unpleasant
as I possibly could
566
00:26:10,143 --> 00:26:13,021
and watching his little face
constantly seeking my approval.
567
00:26:13,104 --> 00:26:15,773
The very first scene
that I shot was actually cut
568
00:26:15,857 --> 00:26:17,358
and is on the deleted scenes.
569
00:26:17,442 --> 00:26:19,652
Draco touched something,
and I used this cane
570
00:26:19,736 --> 00:26:20,820
and I went...
571
00:26:20,904 --> 00:26:23,364
Don't touch anything, Draco.
572
00:26:23,448 --> 00:26:25,492
But I didn't know
how sharp the teeth were
573
00:26:25,575 --> 00:26:27,619
and they went right
into little Tom's hands
574
00:26:27,702 --> 00:26:31,039
and he looked up at me
and his eyes welled with tears.
575
00:26:31,122 --> 00:26:32,540
Yes, Father.
576
00:26:32,624 --> 00:26:34,459
And I went, "Tom, I'm so
sorry, I didn't realize
577
00:26:34,542 --> 00:26:36,252
how sharp they were
and how heavy it was."
578
00:26:36,336 --> 00:26:37,879
And he went,
"No, no, it's all right.
579
00:26:37,962 --> 00:26:39,005
It was good for the scene."
580
00:26:39,088 --> 00:26:40,548
He'd be this evil father,
581
00:26:40,632 --> 00:26:42,091
and then they'd say, "Cut."
582
00:26:42,175 --> 00:26:43,718
And he'll come and give you
a cuddle and say,
583
00:26:43,801 --> 00:26:45,553
"Oh, did I hit you too hard?
Did I hit you too hard?"
584
00:26:45,637 --> 00:26:48,556
He's a real, you know,
Jekyll and Hyde, that one.
585
00:26:51,100 --> 00:26:53,686
Yeah! Yeah!
586
00:26:53,770 --> 00:26:56,606
Whoo-hoo! Yeah!
587
00:26:56,689 --> 00:26:58,816
Harry Potter.
588
00:26:58,900 --> 00:27:00,610
Such an honor it is.
589
00:27:00,693 --> 00:27:02,403
I remember saying
to a friend,
590
00:27:02,487 --> 00:27:06,157
"You know, I've got this part.
It's an elf in Harry Potter."
591
00:27:06,241 --> 00:27:11,996
And the squeals of joy
and the complete despair
592
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,166
at my not understanding,
you know,
593
00:27:15,250 --> 00:27:17,502
how important
this character was.
594
00:27:20,838 --> 00:27:22,423
We did a take and he goes,
595
00:27:22,507 --> 00:27:24,384
"Thank you, this will be all,"
and I swung my leg out,
596
00:27:24,467 --> 00:27:26,427
and I stepped down
and I swung my stick,
597
00:27:26,511 --> 00:27:28,012
and Chris goes, "Cut.
598
00:27:28,096 --> 00:27:29,931
Can we clean the floor
where Jason slipped, please?"
599
00:27:30,014 --> 00:27:31,683
And I said,
"No, I didn't slip."
600
00:27:31,766 --> 00:27:33,268
He said, "Well, what happened?"
601
00:27:33,351 --> 00:27:35,687
And I said, "I kicked Dobby
down the stairs."
602
00:27:42,110 --> 00:27:44,028
And I just thought,
"This is gonna be
603
00:27:44,112 --> 00:27:46,364
ridiculously good fun."
604
00:27:46,447 --> 00:27:48,783
Mr. Malfoy.
605
00:27:48,866 --> 00:27:51,369
Mr. Malfoy!
606
00:27:51,452 --> 00:27:53,913
I have something of yours.
607
00:27:55,039 --> 00:27:57,500
The sock is pathetic,
isn't it, on one level?
608
00:27:57,584 --> 00:27:59,669
But on another level,
it's everything,
609
00:27:59,752 --> 00:28:03,131
and that's, I think,
the beauty of the character.
610
00:28:03,214 --> 00:28:06,509
Master has given Dobby
a sock?
611
00:28:06,593 --> 00:28:08,678
What? I didn't g...
612
00:28:08,761 --> 00:28:12,807
Master has presented Dobby
with clothes.
613
00:28:12,890 --> 00:28:15,810
Dobby is free.
614
00:28:15,893 --> 00:28:17,854
One of the major themes
is this alliance
615
00:28:17,937 --> 00:28:20,356
of friends who endure.
616
00:28:34,662 --> 00:28:37,665
So you and I had one of
our greatest laughs together...
617
00:28:37,749 --> 00:28:39,208
- Yes.
- With Richard Harris.
618
00:28:39,292 --> 00:28:42,253
And we had
a animatronic version
619
00:28:42,337 --> 00:28:43,588
of Fawkes the phoenix
620
00:28:43,671 --> 00:28:45,381
and it was this bird...
big, red bird
621
00:28:45,465 --> 00:28:46,841
- that doesn't exist in life.
- That does not exist.
622
00:28:46,924 --> 00:28:48,551
It's not...
it wasn't unrealistic.
623
00:28:48,635 --> 00:28:50,219
Like, it could, I guess.
624
00:28:50,303 --> 00:28:53,890
Richard came in and looked
at the phoenix and said,
625
00:28:53,973 --> 00:28:57,018
"Wow, they train these animals
marvelously these days."
626
00:28:57,101 --> 00:28:58,811
'Cause they had a camera
inside the eyes,
627
00:28:58,895 --> 00:29:00,688
so they could see
Richard looking at it,
628
00:29:00,772 --> 00:29:02,106
and then they were like,
629
00:29:02,190 --> 00:29:04,484
"Well, we don't wanna
break the spell,
630
00:29:04,567 --> 00:29:06,319
so we'll just keep the bird
reacting and moving."
631
00:29:06,402 --> 00:29:08,279
And then that, of course,
you know, got into a cycle
632
00:29:08,363 --> 00:29:10,365
where Richard was like,
"The bird is responding to me."
633
00:29:10,448 --> 00:29:14,577
Ah, fascinating creatures,
phoenixes.
634
00:29:14,661 --> 00:29:18,039
They can carry
immensely heavy loads,
635
00:29:18,122 --> 00:29:21,501
and their... their tears
have healing powers.
636
00:29:21,584 --> 00:29:23,044
- We never told him.
- No, we never told him.
637
00:29:23,127 --> 00:29:24,170
- No.
- He just thought it was
638
00:29:24,253 --> 00:29:25,588
- a real bird.
- Yeah.
639
00:29:25,672 --> 00:29:27,173
It was insane
that we were part of that.
640
00:29:27,256 --> 00:29:28,925
You know, I do not know
of another human being
641
00:29:29,008 --> 00:29:30,510
that could have started
the series in the way you did.
642
00:29:30,593 --> 00:29:31,969
Well, that...
that makes me feel great.
643
00:29:32,053 --> 00:29:33,304
I've always felt guilty
about leaving.
644
00:29:33,388 --> 00:29:34,722
- I really did.
- Don't.
645
00:29:34,806 --> 00:29:37,308
When I said goodbye
to you guys, I was like,
646
00:29:37,392 --> 00:29:39,394
"I can't believe
I'm leaving these guys."
647
00:29:39,477 --> 00:29:41,229
And I think you honestly...
I don't think you ever
648
00:29:41,312 --> 00:29:44,148
get enough credit for, like,
what you achieved
649
00:29:44,232 --> 00:29:46,275
on those first two
and with all of us,
650
00:29:46,359 --> 00:29:47,819
and so thank you
so much for that.
651
00:29:47,902 --> 00:29:50,571
It's been the greatest
experience of my life.
652
00:29:53,241 --> 00:29:56,661
You fail to recognize
that it matters not
653
00:29:56,744 --> 00:29:59,956
what someone is born...
654
00:30:00,039 --> 00:30:02,917
but what they grow to be.
655
00:30:11,676 --> 00:30:14,345
Hello.
656
00:30:17,348 --> 00:30:19,767
Oh, thank you for coming.
657
00:30:19,851 --> 00:30:21,352
Thanks for chatting.
658
00:30:23,020 --> 00:30:26,482
Who is that? That man.
659
00:30:26,566 --> 00:30:28,109
Who is that?
660
00:30:28,192 --> 00:30:30,820
That is Sirius Black, that is.
661
00:30:32,530 --> 00:30:35,283
Sirius Black is an essential
character for Harry.
662
00:30:35,366 --> 00:30:36,784
It's part of Jo's themes of
663
00:30:36,868 --> 00:30:38,619
"Don't judge a book
by its cover," you know?
664
00:30:38,703 --> 00:30:40,455
The image of Sirius Black
as a criminal
665
00:30:40,538 --> 00:30:42,665
is one that's presented
to Harry.
666
00:30:42,749 --> 00:30:44,792
We have a killer
on the loose.
667
00:30:44,876 --> 00:30:46,794
Sirius Black, you mean?
668
00:30:46,878 --> 00:30:48,588
But what's he got
to do with me?
669
00:30:48,671 --> 00:30:50,882
And yet,
when Harry meets him
670
00:30:50,965 --> 00:30:53,009
and through the course
of the third film,
671
00:30:53,092 --> 00:30:56,804
he comes to learn that he's not
who he has been told he was.
672
00:30:56,888 --> 00:30:58,639
He's somebody very different.
673
00:30:58,723 --> 00:31:01,601
And Gary is such
a remarkable actor.
674
00:31:01,684 --> 00:31:03,644
One of the reasons we
chose him is he obviously
675
00:31:03,728 --> 00:31:06,147
has the potential for darkness,
676
00:31:06,230 --> 00:31:11,819
but he has such soul
and has such a warmth within.
677
00:31:11,903 --> 00:31:13,654
Can I ask you, when were...
678
00:31:13,738 --> 00:31:15,698
were you first
approached to be Sirius?
679
00:31:15,782 --> 00:31:17,325
I was aware of Harry Potter,
680
00:31:17,408 --> 00:31:20,828
but it... it was very much
a sort of kids' thing.
681
00:31:20,912 --> 00:31:24,332
People were telling me to read
the books and I had kids,
682
00:31:24,415 --> 00:31:27,335
so it was gonna be
in my universe somewhere.
683
00:31:27,418 --> 00:31:31,214
And then they were taking
a slightly darker approach.
684
00:31:31,297 --> 00:31:32,882
- Yeah.
- The book was interesting.
685
00:31:32,965 --> 00:31:35,468
I met Alfonso,
and I think at the time,
686
00:31:35,551 --> 00:31:36,844
he was the main attraction.
687
00:31:36,928 --> 00:31:38,554
Now, remember, guys,
that you have to
688
00:31:38,638 --> 00:31:40,807
- take care of your frogs.
- Yeah. Don't worry.
689
00:31:40,890 --> 00:31:44,435
For "Azkaban,"
it's a coming of age.
690
00:31:44,519 --> 00:31:47,772
They're passing the threshold
between childhood
691
00:31:47,855 --> 00:31:50,608
and their teenage years.
692
00:31:50,691 --> 00:31:54,028
In the first two,
Harry is still a child.
693
00:31:54,111 --> 00:32:00,368
There is a greater optimism
around the tone itself.
694
00:32:00,451 --> 00:32:03,120
Nevertheless,
when he turns 13,
695
00:32:03,204 --> 00:32:04,455
there's a big cloud
696
00:32:04,539 --> 00:32:07,375
that overshadows
everything around Harry,
697
00:32:07,458 --> 00:32:11,045
and we needed to convey that
also stylistically.
698
00:32:19,762 --> 00:32:21,889
What's going on?
699
00:32:21,973 --> 00:32:25,309
Don't know,
maybe we've broken down.
700
00:32:33,359 --> 00:32:38,155
"Prisoner of Azkaban" felt
like a whole new era, really.
701
00:32:38,239 --> 00:32:40,908
It was a much darker
kind of story.
702
00:32:40,992 --> 00:32:43,744
There was a lot of kind of
quite adult themes in it.
703
00:32:43,828 --> 00:32:46,247
The descriptions
that JK Rowling
704
00:32:46,330 --> 00:32:49,083
has of the dementors
are very scary,
705
00:32:49,166 --> 00:32:53,129
and I really wanted to convey
the sense that the dementors,
706
00:32:53,212 --> 00:32:57,592
what they do is they suck
all the joy away,
707
00:32:57,675 --> 00:33:02,013
that they were sucking
an essence of Harry.
708
00:33:02,096 --> 00:33:05,099
But I think that the most
important piece
709
00:33:05,182 --> 00:33:08,352
to achieve that
was Dan's performance.
710
00:33:09,896 --> 00:33:12,940
When was "Azkaban"...
how old were you?
711
00:33:13,024 --> 00:33:14,275
14.
712
00:33:14,358 --> 00:33:15,568
- Really?
- Yeah.
713
00:33:15,651 --> 00:33:17,153
- When we first met?
- Yeah.
714
00:33:17,236 --> 00:33:20,615
I think I had a natural
sort of paternal thing.
715
00:33:26,787 --> 00:33:28,831
Are you going to kill me,
Harry?
716
00:33:28,915 --> 00:33:30,750
The first person I remember
being, like,
717
00:33:30,833 --> 00:33:32,668
in order of when they came in
was Gary.
718
00:33:32,752 --> 00:33:34,253
I remember that. I remember...
719
00:33:34,337 --> 00:33:36,797
I remember you
giving me the Gary chat.
720
00:33:36,881 --> 00:33:39,467
Yeah, you were like, "Listen,
Emma, you need to be cool,
721
00:33:39,550 --> 00:33:42,011
"because Gary Oldman...
it's a really big deal,
722
00:33:42,094 --> 00:33:44,597
and you need to be cool,"
and I was like, "Okay."
723
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,349
And which was... which
was really a projection
724
00:33:46,432 --> 00:33:48,100
of my own fears
'cause I was like,
725
00:33:48,184 --> 00:33:51,103
"Dan, you need to be cool.
This guy's a big deal."
726
00:33:52,229 --> 00:33:54,815
Dan was first a bit daunted.
727
00:33:54,899 --> 00:33:58,319
And Gary was amazingly generous
as a person,
728
00:33:58,402 --> 00:34:01,197
but also as an actor,
and immediately embrace him
729
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,325
and include him
in... in the acting process.
730
00:34:04,408 --> 00:34:07,620
It was really sweet
to... to see the two of them.
731
00:34:07,703 --> 00:34:12,166
And it was almost as if it was
mirroring that relationship
732
00:34:12,249 --> 00:34:15,211
because, in many ways,
Harry has made a totem
733
00:34:15,294 --> 00:34:17,171
out of Sirius Black.
734
00:34:17,254 --> 00:34:20,466
That totem
that is kind of unapproachable
735
00:34:20,549 --> 00:34:22,510
and in many ways scary.
736
00:34:22,593 --> 00:34:24,804
And then that was not unlike
in the film
737
00:34:24,887 --> 00:34:27,431
that when they discover
who they truly are,
738
00:34:27,515 --> 00:34:30,017
is when suddenly
there's an amazing bond.
739
00:34:30,101 --> 00:34:32,269
You saw them between takes
740
00:34:32,353 --> 00:34:35,106
sitting with each other,
talking and laughing.
741
00:34:35,189 --> 00:34:38,025
And you could see in the way
that Dan looked at Gary
742
00:34:38,109 --> 00:34:41,862
the adulation and the respect
that he had for him.
743
00:34:41,946 --> 00:34:43,531
All the stuff in
the Shrieking Shack at the end,
744
00:34:43,614 --> 00:34:45,199
I feel like me and Rupert
and Emma were just, like,
745
00:34:45,282 --> 00:34:46,409
watching tennis in that scene
just being like,
746
00:34:46,492 --> 00:34:47,952
"This is acting, guys.
747
00:34:48,035 --> 00:34:50,037
This is what we all need
to be working towards."
748
00:34:50,121 --> 00:34:52,206
There was Tim Spall,
749
00:34:52,289 --> 00:34:54,166
- the one and only Alan Rickman.
- Yeah.
750
00:34:54,250 --> 00:34:58,212
David Thewlis, you,
Emma, Rupert.
751
00:34:58,296 --> 00:35:00,047
It's really nice of you
to include me, Emma, and Rupert
752
00:35:00,131 --> 00:35:01,173
in that group.
753
00:35:01,257 --> 00:35:02,633
To watch you guys act but also
754
00:35:02,717 --> 00:35:04,343
just watching
you guys as people
755
00:35:04,427 --> 00:35:06,554
and just watching these,
like, incredible actors
756
00:35:06,637 --> 00:35:08,222
who were just like,
"Oh, yeah, no.
757
00:35:08,305 --> 00:35:10,141
"You're just people
and you'd have fun in between
758
00:35:10,224 --> 00:35:11,976
and the whole process
doesn't have to be painful."
759
00:35:12,059 --> 00:35:13,936
It can be intense
and you showed me the wonders
760
00:35:14,020 --> 00:35:16,397
of that sometimes as well
and that was really important.
761
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,065
- Let's kill him!
- Wait.
762
00:35:18,149 --> 00:35:23,362
I did my waiting!
12 years of it!
763
00:35:23,446 --> 00:35:25,156
In Azkaban!
764
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:26,615
I have never done a scene
765
00:35:26,699 --> 00:35:29,035
with such an amazing cast
in my life.
766
00:35:29,118 --> 00:35:30,703
It's a very long scene.
767
00:35:30,786 --> 00:35:32,663
It's a scene in which
there are a lot of twists
768
00:35:32,747 --> 00:35:35,207
inside the scene,
and it was so much fun.
769
00:35:35,291 --> 00:35:38,878
It's an intense scene in which
a lot of things are at stake.
770
00:35:38,961 --> 00:35:41,422
No! I trusted you!
771
00:35:41,505 --> 00:35:45,009
And you can see...
Rupert and Emma and Dan...
772
00:35:45,092 --> 00:35:48,095
that they are completely
committed to this scene.
773
00:35:48,179 --> 00:35:51,599
I love it. I-I have such
a great memory of it.
774
00:35:51,682 --> 00:35:54,226
I told Dumbledore
you were helping an old friend
775
00:35:54,310 --> 00:35:56,771
into the castle,
and now here's the proof.
776
00:35:56,854 --> 00:35:58,814
Brilliant, Snape.
Once again,
777
00:35:58,898 --> 00:36:00,816
you've put your keen and
penetrating mind to the task,
778
00:36:00,900 --> 00:36:03,110
and as usual,
come to the wrong conclusion.
779
00:36:03,986 --> 00:36:05,821
I always loved
the character of Sirius.
780
00:36:05,905 --> 00:36:07,615
I love the relationship
Harry and Sirius have.
781
00:36:07,698 --> 00:36:11,577
He's like this cool uncle,
but also older brother figure.
782
00:36:11,660 --> 00:36:14,288
He's painted
as this villainous guy
783
00:36:14,372 --> 00:36:16,874
and then has the switch
where you go,
784
00:36:16,957 --> 00:36:19,960
"Oh, he was set up
and he's a good guy."
785
00:36:20,044 --> 00:36:21,462
And he's so kind
and so warm...
786
00:36:21,545 --> 00:36:22,797
- And he's warm and kind...
- And cool.
787
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,673
- And he's kinda cool.
- Yeah.
788
00:36:24,757 --> 00:36:27,676
I wish I'd had
the whole picture.
789
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,678
You know, we only
ever found out book...
790
00:36:29,762 --> 00:36:31,097
Yeah, book by book.
791
00:36:31,180 --> 00:36:32,598
- I don't know whether you...
- I did not.
792
00:36:32,681 --> 00:36:34,058
Because you were
Harry Potter, you had a...
793
00:36:34,141 --> 00:36:35,392
Just Rickman.
Rickman did. That was it.
794
00:36:35,476 --> 00:36:37,103
- Rickman?
- He had the inside line.
795
00:36:37,186 --> 00:36:38,395
He worked that well.
796
00:36:38,479 --> 00:36:40,189
He very, very early
said to Jo,
797
00:36:40,272 --> 00:36:42,733
he was like, "I think I need
to know what happens."
798
00:36:42,817 --> 00:36:44,151
I need to know.
799
00:36:45,402 --> 00:36:48,739
Give me a reason. I beg you.
800
00:36:48,823 --> 00:36:50,449
Rickman would have an in,
wouldn't he?
801
00:36:50,533 --> 00:36:51,784
He did, yeah.
802
00:36:51,867 --> 00:36:53,327
And he never told Chris,
never told anyone.
803
00:36:53,410 --> 00:36:54,787
He would... Chris would
literally say to him,
804
00:36:54,870 --> 00:36:56,080
"Why are you doing that
like that?"
805
00:36:56,163 --> 00:36:57,623
He'd say,
"I'll tell you later."
806
00:37:02,169 --> 00:37:04,880
Yeah, "You'll find out
on a need-to-know basis."
807
00:37:04,964 --> 00:37:06,382
Wait a decade.
808
00:37:06,465 --> 00:37:10,261
Dan was not a child actor.
Was another fellow actor.
809
00:37:10,344 --> 00:37:12,513
Alfonso was like,
"Now you're teenagers,
810
00:37:12,596 --> 00:37:14,014
and I'm gonna treat you
like a teenager."
811
00:37:14,098 --> 00:37:15,558
And he was the first one
who, like,
812
00:37:15,641 --> 00:37:18,018
- assigned us homework.
- Yeah.
813
00:37:18,102 --> 00:37:19,395
Loosen up, loosen up.
814
00:37:19,478 --> 00:37:21,313
He wanted to get to know us,
815
00:37:21,397 --> 00:37:24,358
so he set us this exercise
where he asked us
816
00:37:24,441 --> 00:37:26,235
to write an essay in character.
817
00:37:28,946 --> 00:37:31,198
He was like,
"You know these characters
818
00:37:31,282 --> 00:37:33,534
"at this point better
than I'm ever gonna be able
819
00:37:33,617 --> 00:37:36,495
to understand who they are,
so you tell me."
820
00:37:36,579 --> 00:37:38,122
And after about, sort of,
821
00:37:38,205 --> 00:37:40,082
a half a side of A4,
I was like,
822
00:37:40,166 --> 00:37:42,168
"I feel like I've pretty much
covered everything.
823
00:37:42,251 --> 00:37:45,462
"Like, Jo has written
a good 500 pages about this,
824
00:37:45,546 --> 00:37:48,048
"but I feel like this one
pretty much sums it up.
825
00:37:48,132 --> 00:37:50,384
Great, okay. Yeah, cool.
Proud of that. Bring that in."
826
00:37:50,468 --> 00:37:54,555
Of course, Emma writes,
like, 12 pages,
827
00:37:54,638 --> 00:37:56,015
like, beautifully written.
828
00:37:56,098 --> 00:38:00,186
Rupert didn't deliver
anything.
829
00:38:00,269 --> 00:38:01,729
I didn't do it.
830
00:38:01,812 --> 00:38:03,564
And I said, "Rupert,
where's your assignment?"
831
00:38:03,647 --> 00:38:09,111
He says, "Well, uh, I thought
that Ron wouldn't do it..."
832
00:38:09,195 --> 00:38:11,989
"So I didn't do it."
833
00:38:12,072 --> 00:38:14,241
I mean, luckily,
Alfonso kind of saw
834
00:38:14,325 --> 00:38:16,118
that it was very in character
for... for...
835
00:38:16,202 --> 00:38:17,536
for me not to have done it.
836
00:38:17,620 --> 00:38:21,081
Rupert is Ron.
837
00:38:21,165 --> 00:38:23,876
It's just Ron 100%.
838
00:38:23,959 --> 00:38:28,422
Emma is just such
an effortless actor.
839
00:38:28,506 --> 00:38:30,299
She prepares a lot.
840
00:38:30,382 --> 00:38:32,760
When you're doing the scenes,
it's as if everything
841
00:38:32,843 --> 00:38:34,428
is just flowing out of her.
842
00:38:34,511 --> 00:38:37,556
The truth of the matter
is that they are great actors.
843
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,685
Sirius Black
finds a redemption
844
00:38:41,769 --> 00:38:46,190
by having Harry understanding
who he truly is.
845
00:38:46,273 --> 00:38:48,192
It's a moment of...
of great liberation,
846
00:38:48,275 --> 00:38:49,944
of great freedom,
847
00:38:50,027 --> 00:38:54,031
and all of this is conveyed
symbolically in the two of them
848
00:38:54,114 --> 00:38:57,743
flying in the night
under the silver moon.
849
00:39:02,623 --> 00:39:04,458
It was like a family,
wasn't it?
850
00:39:04,541 --> 00:39:05,668
Yeah.
851
00:39:05,751 --> 00:39:08,045
More than any
other experience.
852
00:39:08,128 --> 00:39:09,797
You never have that
in the movies
853
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,632
because you work
with a bunch of people
854
00:39:11,715 --> 00:39:13,217
and you get friendly with them
855
00:39:13,300 --> 00:39:15,928
and then most of them
you would never see again.
856
00:39:16,011 --> 00:39:19,223
But with "Potter," you would
come... you would come back
857
00:39:19,306 --> 00:39:23,852
and that's what made it,
amongst many things,
858
00:39:23,936 --> 00:39:26,021
- what made it very special.
- Yeah.
859
00:39:26,105 --> 00:39:28,357
It just feels like,
you know, being in these,
860
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,818
you get to be a part
of film history.
861
00:39:39,576 --> 00:39:41,495
Hogwarts has been chosen
862
00:39:41,578 --> 00:39:44,999
to host
the Triwizard Tournament.
863
00:39:47,626 --> 00:39:49,128
"The Goblet of Fire"
864
00:39:49,211 --> 00:39:52,172
during all of
the Triwizard Tournament stuff,
865
00:39:52,256 --> 00:39:57,094
it was so lovely to be
surprised and blown away
866
00:39:57,177 --> 00:40:02,850
and, like, taken away
by the magic of the scenes
867
00:40:02,933 --> 00:40:04,184
and to be surprised.
868
00:40:04,268 --> 00:40:05,519
Like, I remember seeing
the Beauxbatons
869
00:40:05,602 --> 00:40:07,396
come and do their entrance
870
00:40:07,479 --> 00:40:09,690
and the Durmstrangs.
871
00:40:09,773 --> 00:40:11,525
It was really cool.
872
00:40:13,277 --> 00:40:15,696
With the fourth film,
we wanted a British director.
873
00:40:15,779 --> 00:40:17,406
We wanted something
quite theatrical.
874
00:40:17,489 --> 00:40:18,824
Cut, thank you very much.
875
00:40:18,907 --> 00:40:22,911
Mike is just this excited,
876
00:40:22,995 --> 00:40:25,914
loud, passionate man.
877
00:40:27,583 --> 00:40:29,418
He was a perfect director
for that film.
878
00:40:29,501 --> 00:40:32,004
It was a really, like,
bombastic,
879
00:40:32,087 --> 00:40:36,008
action-packed, wonderful,
eccentric film.
880
00:40:36,091 --> 00:40:37,676
I love Mike. He was great.
881
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,720
I mean, he was almost like
he was from the books.
882
00:40:39,803 --> 00:40:42,556
He was like
a Hogwarts character.
883
00:40:42,639 --> 00:40:44,850
The fourth book
is the biggest of them.
884
00:40:44,933 --> 00:40:47,561
It's about 900 pages.
It's a doorstop.
885
00:40:47,644 --> 00:40:49,188
It's a house brick.
886
00:40:49,271 --> 00:40:50,647
Action!
887
00:40:50,731 --> 00:40:53,651
And I thought,
if it's really gonna nail
888
00:40:53,734 --> 00:40:55,569
the little darlings
to their seats,
889
00:40:55,652 --> 00:41:01,408
then it has to have this great,
big, energetic core to it.
890
00:41:01,492 --> 00:41:04,745
He was just this kind of,
like, firecracker of energy.
891
00:41:04,828 --> 00:41:06,413
He'd get so excited by things.
892
00:41:06,497 --> 00:41:08,749
And there was this kind of
really endearing,
893
00:41:08,832 --> 00:41:10,584
like, childlike quality
to... to him.
894
00:41:10,667 --> 00:41:13,420
He loved the humor as well
and would always
895
00:41:13,504 --> 00:41:15,339
try and find it
in every scene.
896
00:41:15,422 --> 00:41:18,175
It was probably only
a couple of films in
897
00:41:18,258 --> 00:41:20,260
that I sort of started
to feel nervous.
898
00:41:20,344 --> 00:41:22,096
- And I remember...
- It was Mike's change
899
00:41:22,179 --> 00:41:23,430
when... when Columbus left.
900
00:41:23,514 --> 00:41:24,848
It was definitely
a bit of a different...
901
00:41:24,932 --> 00:41:26,392
Yeah,
it was a different vibe.
902
00:41:26,475 --> 00:41:28,435
- Mike Newell.
- Mike treated us like adults.
903
00:41:28,519 --> 00:41:29,686
- That was it.
- Yeah.
904
00:41:29,770 --> 00:41:31,605
- He did, I suppose.
- Yeah.
905
00:41:31,689 --> 00:41:33,315
We did have fun on set.
906
00:41:36,693 --> 00:41:40,072
The Weasley twins,
whom I-I was very fond of,
907
00:41:40,155 --> 00:41:42,658
they had to fight.
908
00:41:42,741 --> 00:41:44,952
We were doing the scene
when Fred and George
909
00:41:45,035 --> 00:41:47,121
are rejected from entering
the Triwizard Tournament.
910
00:41:47,204 --> 00:41:49,873
And then we had these wigs
on and beards on.
911
00:41:49,957 --> 00:41:51,709
What looked like old men.
912
00:41:51,792 --> 00:41:53,544
And Mike said, "Okay, so I
think you guys will be really
913
00:41:53,627 --> 00:41:54,878
"annoyed with each other.
I think you should have
914
00:41:54,962 --> 00:41:56,422
a good fight about this."
915
00:41:56,505 --> 00:42:00,467
These two were sort of,
um, pressing about at it.
916
00:42:00,551 --> 00:42:02,136
Cut!
917
00:42:02,219 --> 00:42:04,638
And I said, "No, come on boys,
really, it's a fight."
918
00:42:04,721 --> 00:42:05,973
Mike just came over.
He said,
919
00:42:06,056 --> 00:42:07,141
"No, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no."
920
00:42:07,224 --> 00:42:08,684
Okay, who wants to fight?
921
00:42:08,767 --> 00:42:11,270
And like an idiot,
I was like, "Oh, yeah, okay."
922
00:42:11,353 --> 00:42:14,523
Well, of course,
I was a tubby 60-year-old gent
923
00:42:14,606 --> 00:42:15,983
at that stage.
924
00:42:16,066 --> 00:42:20,195
Um, and, uh, I-I really
shouldn't have done it.
925
00:42:20,279 --> 00:42:22,865
And so he dived on me
and, like,
926
00:42:22,948 --> 00:42:25,367
just went like this,
927
00:42:25,451 --> 00:42:27,911
to which I said, "Okay."
So I did the same to him.
928
00:42:27,995 --> 00:42:30,873
I-I remember gripping him
'round the waist
929
00:42:30,956 --> 00:42:33,417
and trying to fling him about
and so forth
930
00:42:33,500 --> 00:42:36,003
and cracked a couple of ribs.
931
00:42:36,086 --> 00:42:39,423
And so was in absolute agony
from... from then on.
932
00:42:39,506 --> 00:42:41,925
But of course,
the wonderful thing was
933
00:42:42,009 --> 00:42:44,636
that I had made
a complete twit of myself
934
00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:47,431
and everybody felt
much better for that.
935
00:42:47,514 --> 00:42:51,101
You know when you shouldn't
break a director's rib?
936
00:43:02,446 --> 00:43:03,697
In "The Goblet of Fire,"
937
00:43:03,780 --> 00:43:06,492
that film is just all
about teenagers,
938
00:43:06,575 --> 00:43:08,202
you know, having crushes
for the first time,
939
00:43:08,285 --> 00:43:10,996
asking someone to the date,
to the Yule Ball.
940
00:43:11,079 --> 00:43:13,415
They just mirrored all those
kind of awkward phases
941
00:43:13,499 --> 00:43:14,875
you go through as a teenager,
942
00:43:14,958 --> 00:43:16,543
and they really
felt like that, too,
943
00:43:16,627 --> 00:43:19,046
because we were literally
having the same experiences.
944
00:43:19,129 --> 00:43:21,924
The amount of, um, like,
prep and coaching
945
00:43:22,007 --> 00:43:23,509
Emma and I would give
each other on, like,
946
00:43:23,592 --> 00:43:25,385
texting to the opposite sex...
like, if we...
947
00:43:25,469 --> 00:43:26,929
if she was texting a boy
or I was texting a girl,
948
00:43:27,012 --> 00:43:28,764
I'd be like, "She sent me
this many kisses back.
949
00:43:28,847 --> 00:43:30,557
What do I do?
This is a nightmare."
950
00:43:30,641 --> 00:43:34,228
We had that kind of older
brother, younger sister thing.
951
00:43:34,311 --> 00:43:36,021
It was a very
interesting film
952
00:43:36,104 --> 00:43:38,190
in terms of a lot of hormones
flying around.
953
00:43:39,608 --> 00:43:40,943
There was crushes,
954
00:43:41,026 --> 00:43:42,528
and people
went out with each other
955
00:43:42,611 --> 00:43:44,404
and broke up and...
just like you do in...
956
00:43:44,488 --> 00:43:45,781
like I used to do at school.
957
00:43:45,864 --> 00:43:47,991
Um, it was exactly
the same environment,
958
00:43:48,075 --> 00:43:50,661
but it was just in a Defense
Against the Dark Arts class.
959
00:43:53,872 --> 00:43:57,334
That film was probably
peak hormone, at least for me.
960
00:44:01,004 --> 00:44:02,589
It was exactly
what you'd expect.
961
00:44:02,673 --> 00:44:04,258
And especially, like,
the fourth film was the one
962
00:44:04,341 --> 00:44:07,302
with, like, the Beauxbatons
and the Durmstrangs,
963
00:44:07,386 --> 00:44:09,680
so, like, you had a bunch of,
964
00:44:09,763 --> 00:44:11,431
like, hormonal teenagers
anyway,
965
00:44:11,515 --> 00:44:14,434
and then, like, bring in two
massive groups of new people,
966
00:44:14,518 --> 00:44:17,271
all of them are, like,
purposefully hot for the film.
967
00:44:17,354 --> 00:44:19,898
Um, so it's, yeah,
it was that...
968
00:44:19,982 --> 00:44:21,608
that film was, yeah,
it was all kicking off.
969
00:44:21,692 --> 00:44:24,319
Why do they have to travel
in packs?
970
00:44:24,403 --> 00:44:27,281
He is just, like,
a slightly awkward teenage boy
971
00:44:27,364 --> 00:44:29,491
in a very unremarkable way,
972
00:44:29,575 --> 00:44:30,951
which I suppose feels
sort of remarkable
973
00:44:31,034 --> 00:44:32,703
for a hero character
in something.
974
00:44:32,786 --> 00:44:34,288
You slay dragons.
975
00:44:34,371 --> 00:44:35,956
If you can't get a date,
who can?
976
00:44:36,039 --> 00:44:37,583
I think I'd take the dragon
right now.
977
00:44:37,666 --> 00:44:41,253
Jo wrote him very endearingly
in those years,
978
00:44:41,336 --> 00:44:46,383
and I feel like it did not
take a huge acting stretch
979
00:44:46,466 --> 00:44:51,471
for me to tap into my awkward,
nerdy, teenage side.
980
00:44:51,555 --> 00:44:53,974
- Cho.
- Yes?
981
00:44:54,057 --> 00:44:57,185
Um, I just wondered if you...
I just wondered
982
00:44:57,269 --> 00:44:59,479
if maybe you wanted
to go to the ball with me?
983
00:44:59,563 --> 00:45:02,107
Sorry, I didn't catch that.
984
00:45:02,190 --> 00:45:04,318
It obviously was
a coming-of-age story.
985
00:45:08,447 --> 00:45:10,032
One of the... the big,
big sequences
986
00:45:10,115 --> 00:45:11,908
was the Christmas ball.
987
00:45:11,992 --> 00:45:18,665
The Yule Ball is,
first and foremost, a dance.
988
00:45:18,749 --> 00:45:22,628
The scene when the students
are learning to dance,
989
00:45:22,711 --> 00:45:24,004
it was pretty much like
a typical
990
00:45:24,087 --> 00:45:25,505
school dance of that age.
991
00:45:25,589 --> 00:45:27,966
You've got girls on one side,
boys on the other.
992
00:45:28,050 --> 00:45:30,677
We were in a big room
in Oxford.
993
00:45:30,761 --> 00:45:32,638
Maggie's right in the middle,
and she says,
994
00:45:32,721 --> 00:45:34,514
"Right, I'm gonna
teach you to dance."
995
00:45:34,598 --> 00:45:38,685
Of course, she picks Rupert,
and she says,
996
00:45:38,769 --> 00:45:40,520
Place your right hand
997
00:45:40,604 --> 00:45:42,522
- on my waist.
- What?
998
00:45:42,606 --> 00:45:46,109
The kid's 14, and he knows
how to get a laugh.
999
00:45:46,193 --> 00:45:48,111
It's great.
1000
00:45:48,195 --> 00:45:49,696
And weirdly, I felt quite
1001
00:45:49,780 --> 00:45:51,198
self-conscious of...
I didn't really know...
1002
00:45:51,281 --> 00:45:54,368
I'd never danced
with a lady before,
1003
00:45:54,451 --> 00:45:56,119
so it was kind of
a very new thing.
1004
00:45:56,203 --> 00:45:58,872
Never gonna let him
forget this, are you?
1005
00:45:58,955 --> 00:46:00,374
Never.
1006
00:46:00,457 --> 00:46:02,668
And yeah, of course,
James, Oliver, the twins,
1007
00:46:02,751 --> 00:46:05,337
they were constantly
kind of ribbing me.
1008
00:46:05,420 --> 00:46:06,922
We were winding him...
1009
00:46:07,005 --> 00:46:08,173
We were winding him up
anyway.
1010
00:46:08,256 --> 00:46:09,216
Before we started filming.
1011
00:46:09,299 --> 00:46:10,884
They kind of convinced me,
1012
00:46:10,968 --> 00:46:12,469
before we filmed it,
1013
00:46:12,552 --> 00:46:15,222
that there was this whole,
like, dance routine planned.
1014
00:46:15,305 --> 00:46:17,391
We were like,
"Do you know your steps?
1015
00:46:17,474 --> 00:46:19,476
"You know, right?
No, you know, the routine.
1016
00:46:19,559 --> 00:46:21,103
"Like, we've all been doing
a routine for, like,
1017
00:46:21,186 --> 00:46:22,562
the past six weeks"
or something like that.
1018
00:46:22,646 --> 00:46:25,524
Just try
to build the pressure.
1019
00:46:25,607 --> 00:46:27,609
And this way.
1020
00:46:27,693 --> 00:46:30,112
Now, you will have to lead
eventually.
1021
00:46:30,195 --> 00:46:31,279
Understood?
1022
00:46:31,363 --> 00:46:32,698
Cut!
1023
00:46:33,740 --> 00:46:38,203
One of the most enchanting
days was the Great Ball
1024
00:46:38,286 --> 00:46:40,580
because there was
all these incredibly beautiful
1025
00:46:40,664 --> 00:46:42,916
young people,
perfectly dressed.
1026
00:46:44,584 --> 00:46:46,336
Bloody hell.
1027
00:46:50,257 --> 00:46:53,301
What are those?
What are those?
1028
00:46:53,385 --> 00:46:54,636
My dress robes.
1029
00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:56,346
The suits we had on
were, like,
1030
00:46:56,430 --> 00:46:57,931
really... really wide lapels
1031
00:46:58,014 --> 00:47:00,475
and long sort of tails
and yeah,
1032
00:47:00,559 --> 00:47:02,978
you didn't...
you didn't feel cool
1033
00:47:03,061 --> 00:47:05,147
at... at really
any point in that.
1034
00:47:05,230 --> 00:47:07,357
I look like
my Great Aunt Tessie.
1035
00:47:09,860 --> 00:47:12,112
Smell like
my great Aunt Tessie.
1036
00:47:12,195 --> 00:47:15,282
All I can remember is that,
like, really aggressive,
1037
00:47:15,365 --> 00:47:17,826
like, six-layer collar thing
you had on.
1038
00:47:17,909 --> 00:47:19,286
Oh, the little frill
thing, yeah.
1039
00:47:19,369 --> 00:47:20,829
But actually, I kinda loved it.
1040
00:47:20,912 --> 00:47:22,831
It was kind of...
it was very Weasley.
1041
00:47:22,914 --> 00:47:25,125
- Yeah, it was perfect.
- I felt I pulled it off.
1042
00:47:25,208 --> 00:47:26,793
Not a lot of people
could pull it off.
1043
00:47:26,877 --> 00:47:28,503
Emma obviously
looked beautiful
1044
00:47:28,587 --> 00:47:30,630
and was in an incredible dress.
1045
00:47:30,714 --> 00:47:32,549
And, uh, me and Rupert
looked like,
1046
00:47:32,632 --> 00:47:35,051
I don't know,
Austin Powers' mates
1047
00:47:35,135 --> 00:47:37,262
or something hanging out
at the side.
1048
00:47:37,345 --> 00:47:40,474
She looks beautiful.
1049
00:47:40,557 --> 00:47:43,977
For the first time,
Harry and Ron...
1050
00:47:44,060 --> 00:47:46,354
particularly Ron...
1051
00:47:46,438 --> 00:47:51,568
see Hermione as a young woman,
1052
00:47:51,651 --> 00:47:55,989
not just this kind of sidekick
that they each have.
1053
00:47:56,072 --> 00:47:59,409
Is that Hermione Granger?
With Viktor Krum?
1054
00:47:59,493 --> 00:48:02,329
No, absolutely not.
1055
00:48:03,830 --> 00:48:05,832
I mean, everyone can kind of
relate to that.
1056
00:48:05,916 --> 00:48:07,501
That's what I kind of love
about these stories
1057
00:48:07,584 --> 00:48:10,420
is they sit so parallel
to everyone's life,
1058
00:48:10,504 --> 00:48:14,883
like the first school dance
and those kind of emotions,
1059
00:48:14,966 --> 00:48:18,178
those anxieties, insecurities.
1060
00:48:18,261 --> 00:48:21,515
I knew it was a big deal,
and I was miserable.
1061
00:48:21,598 --> 00:48:23,141
I li... I...
1062
00:48:23,225 --> 00:48:25,727
I just knew it was the, like,
1063
00:48:25,811 --> 00:48:27,813
duckling becomes a swan
moment.
1064
00:48:27,896 --> 00:48:30,690
I knew there was just, like,
all of this pressure suddenly.
1065
00:48:30,774 --> 00:48:33,527
Now, don't swing your arms,
okay?
1066
00:48:33,610 --> 00:48:34,861
Mike Newell coached me
1067
00:48:34,945 --> 00:48:37,322
to walk down the stairs
in the dress.
1068
00:48:37,405 --> 00:48:38,949
"Your arms are swinging
too much.
1069
00:48:39,032 --> 00:48:41,368
You're walking too quickly.
You need to walk slower."
1070
00:48:41,451 --> 00:48:43,495
Like, he's giving me
a million different directions
1071
00:48:43,578 --> 00:48:44,955
about how to walk
down the stairs.
1072
00:48:45,038 --> 00:48:47,249
And of course,
I fell down the stairs.
1073
00:48:47,332 --> 00:48:50,502
We were a bunch of very
self-conscious teenagers.
1074
00:48:50,585 --> 00:48:52,254
They were, like, uh,
1075
00:48:52,337 --> 00:48:54,214
"You're gonna learn
some dance steps for this."
1076
00:48:54,297 --> 00:48:55,924
You trust me, don't you?
1077
00:48:56,007 --> 00:48:58,343
I'm not a dancer, and I
will never be able to dance.
1078
00:48:58,426 --> 00:49:00,929
Yeah, I feel like
I'm pretty rigid
1079
00:49:01,012 --> 00:49:02,389
in... in that dance scene.
1080
00:49:05,183 --> 00:49:08,395
Oh, look at that.
Look at that. Stunned.
1081
00:49:08,478 --> 00:49:10,397
Lucky man. Lucky man.
1082
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,692
Emma and I have always
loved each other, really.
1083
00:49:13,775 --> 00:49:16,570
I walked into the room
where we were having tutoring.
1084
00:49:16,653 --> 00:49:18,196
The assignment
that had been given
1085
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,616
was to draw what you
thought God looked like.
1086
00:49:21,700 --> 00:49:26,663
And Tom had drawn a girl with
a backward cap on a skateboard.
1087
00:49:26,746 --> 00:49:29,207
And I just don't know
how to say it...
1088
00:49:29,291 --> 00:49:31,126
I just fell in love with him.
1089
00:49:31,209 --> 00:49:33,920
I think I was in the hair
and makeup chair.
1090
00:49:34,004 --> 00:49:36,256
And someone said something
along the lines of,
1091
00:49:36,339 --> 00:49:37,465
"Yeah, she had a crush on you."
1092
00:49:37,549 --> 00:49:39,009
I used to come in every day
1093
00:49:39,092 --> 00:49:40,760
and look for his number
on the call sheet.
1094
00:49:40,844 --> 00:49:42,304
It was number seven.
1095
00:49:42,387 --> 00:49:44,472
And if it... if... if his number
was on the call sheet,
1096
00:49:44,556 --> 00:49:47,100
it was an extra exciting day.
1097
00:49:47,183 --> 00:49:49,269
He was three years above me.
1098
00:49:49,352 --> 00:49:53,189
And so for him, he was like,
"You're like my little sister."
1099
00:49:53,273 --> 00:49:55,358
I was... became very
protective over her.
1100
00:49:55,442 --> 00:49:58,028
Yeah, I've always had
a soft spot for... for her,
1101
00:49:58,111 --> 00:50:01,072
um, and that continues
to the day.
1102
00:50:01,156 --> 00:50:03,950
I think really the truth
of it was Tom
1103
00:50:04,034 --> 00:50:09,039
was the one that I could often
be more vulnerable with.
1104
00:50:09,122 --> 00:50:10,707
There's always been something
that's like,
1105
00:50:10,790 --> 00:50:12,208
I don't know, a kinship.
1106
00:50:12,292 --> 00:50:14,628
Nothing has ever, ever, ever,
ever happened
1107
00:50:14,711 --> 00:50:16,171
romantically with us.
1108
00:50:16,254 --> 00:50:18,632
We just love each other.
1109
00:50:18,715 --> 00:50:20,467
That's all I can say
about that.
1110
00:50:25,889 --> 00:50:27,807
Together! One...
1111
00:50:27,891 --> 00:50:29,392
Two, three.
1112
00:50:35,941 --> 00:50:40,153
In "The Goblet of Fire,"
the universe shifts,
1113
00:50:40,236 --> 00:50:43,823
and suddenly,
there is Voldemort.
1114
00:50:50,622 --> 00:50:53,083
I cast Ralph Fiennes because
1115
00:50:53,166 --> 00:50:56,628
he's one of the most potent
actors of his generation.
1116
00:50:56,711 --> 00:50:59,589
And I knew
that he had a great force,
1117
00:50:59,673 --> 00:51:04,344
just kind of delicate,
subtle force of personality.
1118
00:51:04,427 --> 00:51:07,639
My sister has children
who were then
1119
00:51:07,722 --> 00:51:09,516
around 10, 11, 12.
1120
00:51:09,599 --> 00:51:12,102
I said, "Martha, I don't know
about this Harry Potter thing.
1121
00:51:12,185 --> 00:51:14,145
Voldemort. What's that?"
1122
00:51:14,229 --> 00:51:15,438
"What?
1123
00:51:15,522 --> 00:51:17,649
"You're being asked
to play Voldemort?
1124
00:51:17,732 --> 00:51:19,693
You've got to do it!"
1125
00:51:25,240 --> 00:51:27,450
And then I was shown
some drawings...
1126
00:51:27,534 --> 00:51:28,910
design ideas for the look.
1127
00:51:28,994 --> 00:51:31,037
I wasn't expecting that.
1128
00:51:31,121 --> 00:51:34,165
And I thought,
"Wow, that's a strong look."
1129
00:51:34,249 --> 00:51:36,543
I didn't feel Voldemort
was that human.
1130
00:51:36,626 --> 00:51:38,795
I felt he was
the essence of evil.
1131
00:51:38,878 --> 00:51:40,213
I know he's been human,
1132
00:51:40,296 --> 00:51:42,924
but he's become
a snakelike thing.
1133
00:51:43,008 --> 00:51:44,259
So there was the voice.
1134
00:51:44,342 --> 00:51:46,928
The sort of snakelike
whispered, husky,
1135
00:51:47,012 --> 00:51:51,349
something that I suppose I've...
sort of whispering voice.
1136
00:51:51,433 --> 00:51:54,310
Breath on the breath.
1137
00:51:54,394 --> 00:51:57,147
"Ah, Harry Potter..."
1138
00:51:57,230 --> 00:51:59,357
Come to die.
1139
00:51:59,441 --> 00:52:02,652
Ralph wanted to be
ultimately evil
1140
00:52:02,736 --> 00:52:03,820
and otherworldly.
1141
00:52:03,903 --> 00:52:06,156
And the best way to do that
1142
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,575
was to take his nose off.
1143
00:52:08,658 --> 00:52:10,910
He does have a nose...
spoiler alert...
1144
00:52:10,994 --> 00:52:12,787
and he was covered
in stickers.
1145
00:52:12,871 --> 00:52:16,875
So he was slightly less
intimidating than on-screen,
1146
00:52:16,958 --> 00:52:18,668
except when they called action.
1147
00:52:18,752 --> 00:52:20,754
And for some reason,
I was terrified of him.
1148
00:52:20,837 --> 00:52:24,507
I can touch you.
1149
00:52:24,591 --> 00:52:26,426
It took about three hours
in makeup,
1150
00:52:26,509 --> 00:52:28,636
the painting of the hands,
the nails, the teeth,
1151
00:52:28,720 --> 00:52:31,264
and even with my nose,
1152
00:52:31,347 --> 00:52:35,894
um, I... I felt...
1153
00:52:37,771 --> 00:52:41,274
Strong. It felt powerful.
It felt evil.
1154
00:52:41,357 --> 00:52:46,863
What was big was that one
of the people that you assume
1155
00:52:46,946 --> 00:52:51,409
is gonna be very important
to the story is Cedric Diggory.
1156
00:52:51,493 --> 00:52:56,247
In that confrontation,
Cedric is killed.
1157
00:52:56,331 --> 00:52:58,291
Kill the spare.
1158
00:52:58,374 --> 00:53:00,835
- Avada Kedavra!
- Cedric!
1159
00:53:02,462 --> 00:53:07,759
And Harry,
he manages to take the body
1160
00:53:07,842 --> 00:53:12,180
and crash land back at the end
of the competition,
1161
00:53:12,263 --> 00:53:16,392
and Cedric Diggory's father
believes that his son has won
1162
00:53:16,476 --> 00:53:19,354
and then he realizes
that the kid is dead,
1163
00:53:19,437 --> 00:53:21,689
and he howls like a dog.
1164
00:53:21,773 --> 00:53:23,149
That's my boy!
1165
00:53:25,902 --> 00:53:28,822
That's my boy!
1166
00:53:28,905 --> 00:53:31,866
Suddenly, something
completely unexpected
1167
00:53:31,950 --> 00:53:34,452
and serious happens,
1168
00:53:34,536 --> 00:53:38,164
and suddenly you realize that
this movie is not about life.
1169
00:53:38,248 --> 00:53:39,374
It's about death.
1170
00:53:39,457 --> 00:53:40,834
It's such a massive scene
1171
00:53:40,917 --> 00:53:42,418
'cause it is also
the first time
1172
00:53:42,502 --> 00:53:45,421
Harry sort of feels
that kind of death
1173
00:53:45,505 --> 00:53:47,549
of... of somebody young,
close to him.
1174
00:53:48,633 --> 00:53:50,844
That's a scene I remember
really distinctly going,
1175
00:53:50,927 --> 00:53:52,679
"Oh, this is...
yes, these are kids' films,
1176
00:53:52,762 --> 00:53:54,514
but my God, there's some
challenging stuff in there."
1177
00:53:54,597 --> 00:53:59,018
He's back, he's back.
Voldemort's back.
1178
00:53:59,102 --> 00:54:01,271
The moment of
Cedric Diggory's death
1179
00:54:01,354 --> 00:54:05,817
is the moment
when the series comes of age,
1180
00:54:05,900 --> 00:54:10,071
and now the children
have left childhood
1181
00:54:10,155 --> 00:54:12,282
and are going to have
to confront
1182
00:54:12,365 --> 00:54:14,617
the perils of adulthood.
1183
00:54:14,701 --> 00:54:17,871
And it all comes
from that moment of death.
1184
00:54:17,954 --> 00:54:20,707
Cedric Diggory was murdered
1185
00:54:20,790 --> 00:54:22,542
by Lord Voldemort.
1186
00:54:24,335 --> 00:54:27,005
The three of them,
they're in adversity,
1187
00:54:27,088 --> 00:54:30,550
and that forges friendships,
as we know.
1188
00:54:38,266 --> 00:54:40,685
"You are protected,
in short,
1189
00:54:40,768 --> 00:54:43,188
by your ability to love,"
1190
00:54:43,271 --> 00:54:45,690
said Dumbledore loudly.
1191
00:54:45,773 --> 00:54:48,526
"The only protection
that can possibly work
1192
00:54:48,610 --> 00:54:52,238
"against the lure of power
like Voldemort's.
1193
00:54:52,322 --> 00:54:54,532
"In spite
of all the temptation
1194
00:54:54,616 --> 00:54:58,036
"you have endured,
all the suffering,
1195
00:54:58,119 --> 00:55:01,372
you remain pure of heart."
1196
00:55:15,345 --> 00:55:17,764
How nice of you to let us
do this in your house.
1197
00:55:17,847 --> 00:55:19,891
I know, so nice.
1198
00:55:19,974 --> 00:55:21,392
You know what
I've always wanted to do?
1199
00:55:21,476 --> 00:55:24,520
Let me see if we can...
is get up here.
1200
00:55:25,980 --> 00:55:28,358
Oh, now, look, they really
don't look very well.
1201
00:55:29,984 --> 00:55:32,278
- They're all still here.
- They're really still here.
1202
00:55:32,362 --> 00:55:35,782
I mean, has anyone fed them?
This is so sad.
1203
00:55:35,865 --> 00:55:37,533
Okay, now you can be
Harry Potter.
1204
00:55:37,617 --> 00:55:38,826
Okay, actually.
1205
00:55:40,745 --> 00:55:42,622
I'll go down the right,
you go down the left.
1206
00:55:42,705 --> 00:55:45,375
Yeah, and let's race, okay?
On your mark, set, go.
1207
00:55:45,458 --> 00:55:46,751
Oh, God.
1208
00:55:47,877 --> 00:55:49,420
We're snogging down here.
1209
00:55:50,713 --> 00:55:52,382
- Get over it.
- You know what?
1210
00:55:52,465 --> 00:55:54,634
I-I took a photograph
of something.
1211
00:55:54,717 --> 00:55:57,971
Last night, I thought, I'm just
gonna dig up these things,
1212
00:55:58,054 --> 00:56:00,056
and I asked for your autograph.
1213
00:56:00,139 --> 00:56:01,307
God. Is that right?
1214
00:56:01,391 --> 00:56:02,558
No. Read it out.
1215
00:56:02,642 --> 00:56:06,104
It's so nice to see you.
What does it say?
1216
00:56:06,187 --> 00:56:07,689
- "Dear HBC..."
- Yeah.
1217
00:56:07,772 --> 00:56:11,734
"It was a pleasure being
your costar and coaster."
1218
00:56:11,818 --> 00:56:12,819
Wow.
1219
00:56:12,902 --> 00:56:13,945
What a... what a clever pun.
1220
00:56:14,028 --> 00:56:15,446
That was clever.
1221
00:56:15,530 --> 00:56:16,823
I mean, I'm honestly still
kinda pleased with that.
1222
00:56:16,906 --> 00:56:18,324
You were poetic.
Yeah, yeah.
1223
00:56:18,408 --> 00:56:19,784
"In the sense
that I always ended up
1224
00:56:19,867 --> 00:56:21,869
holding your coffee.
I do love you."
1225
00:56:21,953 --> 00:56:23,579
And what does it say?
1226
00:56:26,916 --> 00:56:28,459
- You can share.
- I can.
1227
00:56:28,543 --> 00:56:30,253
We can share this now.
I said, "I do love you.
1228
00:56:30,336 --> 00:56:32,005
"And I just wish I'd been born
10 years earlier.
1229
00:56:32,088 --> 00:56:33,506
I might've been in
with a chance."
1230
00:56:33,589 --> 00:56:34,966
It's all right now.
1231
00:56:35,049 --> 00:56:36,342
"Lots of love
and thanks for being cool."
1232
00:56:36,426 --> 00:56:37,552
Isn't it nice?
1233
00:56:37,635 --> 00:56:39,012
Now, I shall always
treasure that.
1234
00:56:39,095 --> 00:56:41,723
- Thank you.
- That is in my toilet, Dan.
1235
00:56:48,479 --> 00:56:49,856
There's a storm coming,
Harry.
1236
00:56:49,939 --> 00:56:52,025
We'd all best be ready
when she does.
1237
00:56:53,735 --> 00:56:57,780
Yes!
1238
00:56:57,864 --> 00:57:00,408
I was in film number five,
"Order of the Phoenix."
1239
00:57:00,491 --> 00:57:01,909
- Yeah.
- Look, I got my teeth.
1240
00:57:01,993 --> 00:57:03,328
- Helena's brought her teeth.
- My teeth.
1241
00:57:03,411 --> 00:57:04,954
She's assured me
that she's done
1242
00:57:05,038 --> 00:57:06,914
literally nothing to these
in terms of cleaning.
1243
00:57:06,998 --> 00:57:10,752
No, these are actual relic.
There's 11 years in there.
1244
00:57:10,835 --> 00:57:13,338
Yeah, it smells a bit whiffy,
but...
1245
00:57:13,421 --> 00:57:14,756
You just gonna put them
right in your mouth, yeah?
1246
00:57:14,839 --> 00:57:16,007
No, but the teeth
were helpful.
1247
00:57:16,090 --> 00:57:17,508
- Yeah.
- Okay, in they go.
1248
00:57:17,592 --> 00:57:19,552
- What do you think?
- Yeah, I'd forgotten.
1249
00:57:19,635 --> 00:57:20,720
Do... do you remember me?
1250
00:57:20,803 --> 00:57:22,305
I remember... this is... yeah.
1251
00:57:25,892 --> 00:57:27,852
- The teeth helped.
- With the character?
1252
00:57:27,935 --> 00:57:29,604
I think I wanted
to be in camouflage.
1253
00:57:29,687 --> 00:57:31,773
When I was first offered it,
Jo sent me
1254
00:57:31,856 --> 00:57:33,149
a secret message saying, like,
1255
00:57:33,232 --> 00:57:34,692
"There might not be much
on the page,
1256
00:57:34,776 --> 00:57:36,861
"but she's gonna
do something significant."
1257
00:57:36,944 --> 00:57:38,279
With Bellatrix, it was fun,
1258
00:57:38,363 --> 00:57:40,031
because it was fostering
the... the childish
1259
00:57:40,114 --> 00:57:42,575
and the naughty.
I was just like...
1260
00:57:42,658 --> 00:57:44,077
- And totally anarchist.
- And the psychopath, yeah.
1261
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:45,286
There was like
a playfulness to her...
1262
00:57:45,370 --> 00:57:46,662
There was the playfulness.
1263
00:57:46,746 --> 00:57:48,206
Which is, like,
even more disturbing.
1264
00:57:48,289 --> 00:57:49,749
Of course, Bellatrix
doesn't think she's evil.
1265
00:57:49,832 --> 00:57:51,167
- She thinks she's the opposite.
- No. Right.
1266
00:57:51,250 --> 00:57:52,585
So I had to sort of construct
1267
00:57:52,668 --> 00:57:54,670
a reason for why
she should hurt people
1268
00:57:54,754 --> 00:57:58,925
and why, for her,
she is desensitized.
1269
00:57:59,008 --> 00:58:01,386
It makes her feel powerful.
1270
00:58:01,469 --> 00:58:03,054
Ha!
1271
00:58:03,137 --> 00:58:05,890
Itty, bitty, Potter.
1272
00:58:05,973 --> 00:58:08,518
Yeah!
1273
00:58:10,728 --> 00:58:13,022
Bellatrix was just
this wild thing
1274
00:58:13,106 --> 00:58:14,440
that was uncontrollable.
1275
00:58:14,524 --> 00:58:15,817
You can never really know
1276
00:58:15,900 --> 00:58:17,652
what's gonna
come out of her mouth next.
1277
00:58:19,362 --> 00:58:21,197
Very exciting for an actor,
'cause it was like,
1278
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,783
whatever she did on that take
does not mean she's gonna do
1279
00:58:23,866 --> 00:58:25,243
the same one the next.
1280
00:58:25,326 --> 00:58:27,370
I remember trying to be
in charge of the scene
1281
00:58:27,453 --> 00:58:28,955
and her just having
the best time.
1282
00:58:30,540 --> 00:58:32,125
She's just allowed to do
anything she wanted.
1283
00:58:32,208 --> 00:58:33,960
She could cackle,
she would jump up and down.
1284
00:58:34,043 --> 00:58:35,461
Calm down.
1285
00:58:35,545 --> 00:58:37,130
And say whatever she wanted.
1286
00:58:37,213 --> 00:58:40,633
And just not knowing... not...
trying to keep her in tow.
1287
00:58:40,716 --> 00:58:42,260
You filthy half-blood!
1288
00:58:42,343 --> 00:58:44,637
It's all right, he's just
a curious lad, aren't you?
1289
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:46,305
I kept on wanting to go,
"Shut up."
1290
00:58:46,389 --> 00:58:48,349
Draco.
1291
00:58:56,816 --> 00:58:58,609
- I killed you, didn't I?
- You killed me, but...
1292
00:58:58,693 --> 00:59:00,153
Yeah, I'm sorry.
1293
00:59:00,236 --> 00:59:01,863
- Um...
- Had to be done.
1294
00:59:01,946 --> 00:59:03,823
I remember we worked
on lots of spells and things,
1295
00:59:03,906 --> 00:59:05,366
'cause you were
a really good wizard.
1296
00:59:05,450 --> 00:59:07,118
I was really good witch.
1297
00:59:07,201 --> 00:59:09,620
And we had a real duel,
and they cut the whole lot.
1298
00:59:10,746 --> 00:59:11,664
And that's really messed up,
1299
00:59:11,747 --> 00:59:12,999
because I just thought,
1300
00:59:13,082 --> 00:59:14,834
"I've been to wand school
for weeks."
1301
00:59:14,917 --> 00:59:16,919
And we were
on that set for days.
1302
00:59:17,003 --> 00:59:18,379
Days, it was in the run.
1303
00:59:18,463 --> 00:59:20,631
I think it was really
one of my first things
1304
00:59:20,715 --> 00:59:22,425
and you fell into the veil.
What was it? The veil?
1305
00:59:22,508 --> 00:59:23,551
- Yeah, yeah.
- Was it?
1306
00:59:23,634 --> 00:59:25,094
I go through the veil.
1307
00:59:25,178 --> 00:59:28,681
Then there was speculation
of, does he come back?
1308
00:59:28,764 --> 00:59:30,975
Can you come back
from the veil?
1309
00:59:31,058 --> 00:59:32,685
- No, you can't.
- No, you can't.
1310
00:59:32,768 --> 00:59:35,021
Avada Kedavra!
1311
00:59:51,954 --> 00:59:53,164
I will say that that was
1312
00:59:53,247 --> 00:59:54,373
an interesting point
for all of us
1313
00:59:54,457 --> 00:59:55,833
as, like, younger actors.
1314
00:59:55,917 --> 00:59:58,252
'Cause there was
a certain group, like Maggie...
1315
00:59:58,336 --> 01:00:00,421
- Yeah
- David Bradley, and Alan.
1316
01:00:00,505 --> 01:00:02,715
They had known us
when we were 10 or 11.
1317
01:00:02,798 --> 01:00:05,176
And when you came in, by that
point, I was like 15, 16.
1318
01:00:05,259 --> 01:00:07,512
So, like, you
and Gary and David, like,
1319
01:00:07,595 --> 01:00:09,889
would treat us more
like adults; I loved it.
1320
01:00:09,972 --> 01:00:11,933
You saw in us, that, like,
a few of us were, like,
1321
01:00:12,016 --> 01:00:13,726
kind of ready to be like,
"Could you push me?
1322
01:00:13,809 --> 01:00:15,895
Like, we... we wanna try
and be actors too."
1323
01:00:23,736 --> 01:00:26,405
By the time we get
to "Order of the Phoenix,"
1324
01:00:26,489 --> 01:00:29,075
the world is becoming
more political.
1325
01:00:29,158 --> 01:00:31,536
And I felt
we needed a director
1326
01:00:31,619 --> 01:00:34,247
who could handle that
in an entertaining way.
1327
01:00:34,330 --> 01:00:36,791
David Yates works
so well with actors,
1328
01:00:36,874 --> 01:00:39,835
really pushes them
in all the right way.
1329
01:00:39,919 --> 01:00:43,256
Progress for the sake
of progress
1330
01:00:43,339 --> 01:00:45,883
must be discouraged.
1331
01:00:45,967 --> 01:00:49,303
David was just such
a sweet, kind of gentle guy
1332
01:00:49,387 --> 01:00:52,682
that really cared so much
about all of these characters.
1333
01:00:52,765 --> 01:00:54,433
And also, I'd get
a lot of kinda one-on-one
1334
01:00:54,517 --> 01:00:55,893
with David Yates.
1335
01:00:55,977 --> 01:00:57,937
I went into
"Order of the Phoenix"
1336
01:00:58,020 --> 01:00:59,939
with the young actors in mind
and sort of thinking about
1337
01:01:00,022 --> 01:01:02,275
how we sort of grow
the whole thing up
1338
01:01:02,358 --> 01:01:04,610
and make it
a little bit more adult
1339
01:01:04,694 --> 01:01:08,072
and sort of thematic
and a little darker.
1340
01:01:12,660 --> 01:01:14,954
It needed to expand
and get bigger
1341
01:01:15,037 --> 01:01:17,331
and more and more frightening.
1342
01:01:19,125 --> 01:01:21,168
Ah!
1343
01:01:21,252 --> 01:01:24,964
There was a big increase
in scale and complexity,
1344
01:01:25,047 --> 01:01:28,593
from being childish
to influencing events
1345
01:01:28,676 --> 01:01:31,596
and being part
of the big world.
1346
01:01:31,679 --> 01:01:33,973
He's just a boy.
1347
01:01:34,056 --> 01:01:35,391
You say much more,
and you might as well
1348
01:01:35,474 --> 01:01:36,892
induct him into the Order
straight away.
1349
01:01:36,976 --> 01:01:38,519
Good. I want to join.
1350
01:01:38,603 --> 01:01:40,605
If Voldemort's raising an army,
then I want to fight.
1351
01:01:44,734 --> 01:01:48,029
When I started, one thing
that David and the studio
1352
01:01:48,112 --> 01:01:49,822
spoke to me about was,
1353
01:01:49,905 --> 01:01:54,744
Emma is not sure she wants to
come back to do another Potter.
1354
01:01:55,578 --> 01:01:56,954
Oh, Harry.
1355
01:01:59,915 --> 01:02:02,668
People definitely forget
what she took on
1356
01:02:02,752 --> 01:02:04,837
and how gracefully she did it.
1357
01:02:05,921 --> 01:02:08,758
Dan and Rupert,
they had each other.
1358
01:02:08,841 --> 01:02:10,843
I had my cronies,
1359
01:02:10,926 --> 01:02:12,678
whereas Emma
was not only younger,
1360
01:02:12,762 --> 01:02:16,474
she was... she was by herself.
1361
01:02:16,557 --> 01:02:20,603
I did find a diary entry
that was kind of like, hmm.
1362
01:02:21,437 --> 01:02:25,399
I could see that,
at times, I was lonely.
1363
01:02:25,483 --> 01:02:27,193
We never talked
about it on the film
1364
01:02:27,276 --> 01:02:28,903
because we were all just kids.
1365
01:02:29,987 --> 01:02:31,530
As a 14-year-old boy,
1366
01:02:31,614 --> 01:02:33,199
I was never gonna turn around
to another 14-year-old
1367
01:02:33,282 --> 01:02:34,533
and be like,
"Hey, how you doing?
1368
01:02:34,617 --> 01:02:36,410
Like, is everything okay?"
1369
01:02:36,494 --> 01:02:38,037
So "Order of the Phoenix."
1370
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,206
Was when things started
getting spicy for all of us.
1371
01:02:40,289 --> 01:02:42,541
Mm, but you were
considering pulling out.
1372
01:02:42,625 --> 01:02:44,210
I never really spoke
to you about this.
1373
01:02:44,293 --> 01:02:46,879
Yeah. I think, um...
1374
01:02:46,962 --> 01:02:48,422
- I think I was scared.
- Yeah.
1375
01:02:48,506 --> 01:02:50,049
I don't know if...
if you ever felt like
1376
01:02:50,132 --> 01:02:51,384
it got to a tipping point
when you were like...
1377
01:02:51,467 --> 01:02:53,052
Oh, absolutely.
1378
01:02:53,135 --> 01:02:54,428
This is kinda forever now.
1379
01:02:54,512 --> 01:02:56,430
Yeah.
No, I had moments like that.
1380
01:02:56,514 --> 01:02:57,723
Kind of all the way through.
1381
01:02:59,517 --> 01:03:03,104
I would say I had kind of
similar feelings to Emma.
1382
01:03:03,729 --> 01:03:05,940
Kind of contemplating
what life would be like
1383
01:03:06,023 --> 01:03:08,567
if I called it a day, but...
1384
01:03:08,651 --> 01:03:10,861
we never really spoke
about... I guess we were just
1385
01:03:10,945 --> 01:03:12,738
kind of going through it
at our own pace.
1386
01:03:12,822 --> 01:03:14,532
We were kind of in the moment.
1387
01:03:14,615 --> 01:03:18,536
At the time, it just didn't
really occur to us
1388
01:03:18,619 --> 01:03:22,289
that we were all kind of having
similar... similar feelings.
1389
01:03:23,916 --> 01:03:26,377
Yeah, um...
1390
01:03:26,460 --> 01:03:30,256
the fame thing had
finally hit home in a big way.
1391
01:03:32,133 --> 01:03:35,469
No one had to convince me
to see it through.
1392
01:03:36,929 --> 01:03:39,265
The fans genuinely
wanted us to succeed,
1393
01:03:39,348 --> 01:03:42,768
and we all genuinely
had each other's backs.
1394
01:03:42,852 --> 01:03:44,061
How great is that?
1395
01:03:53,529 --> 01:03:55,281
It's always amazing
that these films
1396
01:03:55,364 --> 01:03:57,283
mean so much to them,
they...'cause we...
1397
01:03:57,366 --> 01:04:00,244
they kind of grew up
alongside us and helped them
1398
01:04:00,327 --> 01:04:02,663
with some really difficult
things in their lives.
1399
01:04:02,747 --> 01:04:06,041
And I'm just very proud
to be a part of something
1400
01:04:06,125 --> 01:04:09,920
that means so much to so many.
1401
01:04:16,010 --> 01:04:17,178
I've been thinking about
1402
01:04:17,261 --> 01:04:19,472
something Dumbledore
said to me.
1403
01:04:19,555 --> 01:04:20,806
What's that?
1404
01:04:21,724 --> 01:04:24,727
That even though we've got
a fight ahead of us,
1405
01:04:24,810 --> 01:04:27,271
we've got one thing
that Voldemort doesn't have.
1406
01:04:28,189 --> 01:04:29,315
Yeah?
1407
01:04:31,442 --> 01:04:33,652
Something worth fighting for.
1408
01:04:36,947 --> 01:04:39,825
My son, Billy, we used
to watch them every night.
1409
01:04:39,909 --> 01:04:41,786
You know, if he got
the Sunday night blues,
1410
01:04:41,869 --> 01:04:44,163
he was watching a Potter movie.
1411
01:04:44,246 --> 01:04:45,664
That was his safe place.
1412
01:04:45,748 --> 01:04:47,374
I'm really looking forward
to watching the films
1413
01:04:47,458 --> 01:04:49,335
with my hypothetical children
one day.
1414
01:04:49,418 --> 01:04:51,879
It's massive, the impact.
It is extraordinary.
1415
01:04:51,962 --> 01:04:53,172
It is unbelievable.
1416
01:04:56,884 --> 01:05:00,137
I was writing to JK Rowling
since I was about 11 years old
1417
01:05:00,221 --> 01:05:01,847
to say thank you to her
to say,
1418
01:05:01,931 --> 01:05:04,809
I would find life a bit
hopeless without Harry Potter.
1419
01:05:04,892 --> 01:05:06,977
Luckily for me,
she read the letter
1420
01:05:07,061 --> 01:05:08,521
and responded to it.
1421
01:05:08,604 --> 01:05:12,525
So I'm one of the very lucky
few people who can say
1422
01:05:12,608 --> 01:05:14,401
JK Rowling was my pen friend.
1423
01:05:18,030 --> 01:05:20,074
The first part
of the audition
1424
01:05:20,157 --> 01:05:21,742
is this crazy open call.
1425
01:05:21,826 --> 01:05:23,869
Literally, anyone can come.
1426
01:05:25,329 --> 01:05:26,872
That's my ticket.
Off we go.
1427
01:05:26,956 --> 01:05:27,915
Let's go to London.
1428
01:05:27,998 --> 01:05:29,625
We fly, of course.
1429
01:05:29,708 --> 01:05:33,128
And there would be thousands
of people lining up.
1430
01:05:33,212 --> 01:05:36,090
I remember Dan very vividly.
1431
01:05:36,173 --> 01:05:37,550
It was on my screen test.
1432
01:05:37,633 --> 01:05:38,968
Mistletoe.
1433
01:05:40,511 --> 01:05:42,096
I remember him talking to me,
1434
01:05:42,179 --> 01:05:43,806
and I kept forgetting
that I have to talk back to him
1435
01:05:43,889 --> 01:05:46,559
because I'm so used
to watching him on a screen.
1436
01:05:46,642 --> 01:05:48,143
So I would just
kind of be like...
1437
01:05:49,103 --> 01:05:51,063
I kind of think
that contributed to the whole
1438
01:05:51,146 --> 01:05:55,860
Luna Lovegood vibe,
because she is a bit spacy.
1439
01:05:55,943 --> 01:05:57,319
Hello, everyone.
1440
01:05:58,571 --> 01:06:00,322
You look dreadful, Ron.
1441
01:06:00,406 --> 01:06:04,201
And then he found
this secret world of odd bots,
1442
01:06:04,285 --> 01:06:07,329
of misfits, of people
who had this strange power
1443
01:06:07,413 --> 01:06:09,915
but who still had
enormous humanity
1444
01:06:09,999 --> 01:06:11,750
and depth and vulnerability.
1445
01:06:11,834 --> 01:06:13,794
The movies kind of
gave people permission
1446
01:06:13,878 --> 01:06:15,462
to accept parts of themselves.
1447
01:06:15,546 --> 01:06:18,591
So it was quite liberating
to see your oddness
1448
01:06:18,674 --> 01:06:21,760
as a superpower
represented on-screen.
1449
01:06:21,844 --> 01:06:23,762
I remember
when I first met you all...
1450
01:06:23,846 --> 01:06:26,932
biggest bunch of misfits
that I ever set eyes on,
1451
01:06:27,016 --> 01:06:28,601
and here we all are.
1452
01:06:28,684 --> 01:06:30,144
We're still
a bunch of misfits.
1453
01:06:30,227 --> 01:06:32,980
Well, maybe,
but we've all got each other.
1454
01:06:34,023 --> 01:06:35,691
I was not good at school.
1455
01:06:35,774 --> 01:06:37,484
You'd be better off with
"Goshawk's Guide to Herbology."
1456
01:06:37,568 --> 01:06:39,403
I didn't have
a huge amount of friends.
1457
01:06:40,237 --> 01:06:42,364
Watch where you're going,
Longbottom.
1458
01:06:44,199 --> 01:06:45,743
I think it's great
to be a misfit.
1459
01:06:45,826 --> 01:06:48,120
And I think that's possibly
why it's so popular.
1460
01:06:48,203 --> 01:06:50,789
Everyone wants to know
that they do belong.
1461
01:06:50,873 --> 01:06:53,334
It's a great relief
of loneliness, I think.
1462
01:06:53,417 --> 01:06:54,877
I was quite a shy kid.
1463
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,254
I could relate
to that kind of feeling
1464
01:06:57,338 --> 01:07:00,799
of not quite knowing
what your place is.
1465
01:07:00,883 --> 01:07:02,801
Working hard is important,
1466
01:07:02,885 --> 01:07:04,470
but there's something
that matters even more.
1467
01:07:04,553 --> 01:07:06,764
- Stupefy!
- Believing in yourself.
1468
01:07:09,183 --> 01:07:12,227
Everyone felt
more like they belonged
1469
01:07:12,311 --> 01:07:15,397
by witnessing these characters
that didn't belong.
1470
01:07:18,651 --> 01:07:20,486
Bonnie was,
kind of, when she arrived,
1471
01:07:20,569 --> 01:07:23,864
she was only 9, maybe.
1472
01:07:23,948 --> 01:07:25,449
Mummy, have you seen
my jumper?
1473
01:07:25,532 --> 01:07:27,785
Yes, dear, it was on the cat.
1474
01:07:27,868 --> 01:07:29,244
Hello.
1475
01:07:29,328 --> 01:07:32,373
I always found Ginny, Harry,
that relationship,
1476
01:07:32,456 --> 01:07:35,250
how that kind of
slowly developed
1477
01:07:35,334 --> 01:07:39,505
and entangling with it
the whole Weasley family
1478
01:07:39,588 --> 01:07:42,883
and Harry essentially
becoming a Weasley, himself.
1479
01:07:43,968 --> 01:07:45,511
It was something I never
really kind of expected,
1480
01:07:45,594 --> 01:07:47,262
especially kind
of reading the books.
1481
01:07:47,346 --> 01:07:49,014
Bonnie was the youngest one.
1482
01:07:49,098 --> 01:07:51,600
So it was just a bit like,
"Oh, what? This is weird."
1483
01:07:52,601 --> 01:07:54,061
Close your eyes.
1484
01:07:54,144 --> 01:07:56,271
And you know, there is
this kind of pressure.
1485
01:07:56,355 --> 01:08:00,025
You know, this is the loved
sort of hero of the story.
1486
01:08:00,109 --> 01:08:02,194
So everyone on the set
has known you
1487
01:08:02,277 --> 01:08:04,571
for about six or seven years,
and they've watched you grow up
1488
01:08:04,655 --> 01:08:07,116
and they're now gonna
just watch you kiss.
1489
01:08:07,199 --> 01:08:08,409
Cool. Yeah.
1490
01:08:15,708 --> 01:08:18,294
I mean, there's so many
amazing female roles
1491
01:08:18,377 --> 01:08:20,754
that Jo wrote, and I think
that's really important.
1492
01:08:20,838 --> 01:08:26,343
I am so proud of who Bonnie
and Evanna and Katie are
1493
01:08:26,427 --> 01:08:27,845
and who they've become.
1494
01:08:27,928 --> 01:08:31,056
They've all become
these incredible activists.
1495
01:08:31,140 --> 01:08:34,727
Every single one of those girls
was like a lovely,
1496
01:08:34,810 --> 01:08:36,895
great human being.
1497
01:08:41,984 --> 01:08:43,902
I tell you,
I've... I've missed your company.
1498
01:08:43,986 --> 01:08:45,738
- Did you? Aw, thank you.
- That's for sure.
1499
01:08:45,821 --> 01:08:47,406
Did you get anything?
'Cause I stole quite a lot.
1500
01:08:47,489 --> 01:08:48,782
- Did you really?
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1501
01:08:48,866 --> 01:08:50,451
I didn't.
I should have known that.
1502
01:08:50,534 --> 01:08:52,077
- I should have told you.
- I'm quite reassured by that.
1503
01:08:52,161 --> 01:08:55,247
'cause I was definitely
trying to steal my wand.
1504
01:08:55,330 --> 01:08:56,707
And I worry that if I had,
1505
01:08:56,790 --> 01:08:58,208
I probably would have
lost it by now somewhere.
1506
01:08:58,292 --> 01:09:00,169
You know they don't work,
Tom.
1507
01:09:00,252 --> 01:09:01,545
Well, I've been assured
1508
01:09:01,628 --> 01:09:04,548
that in time,
with enough practice...
1509
01:09:04,631 --> 01:09:06,508
- Practice it would work.
- Yes.
1510
01:09:06,592 --> 01:09:08,469
But it's quite funny
looking back at it now,
1511
01:09:08,552 --> 01:09:10,763
us doing these
incredibly elaborate moves
1512
01:09:10,846 --> 01:09:12,348
and nothing happening.
1513
01:09:12,431 --> 01:09:14,641
And nothing... except one time
it did happen with me.
1514
01:09:14,725 --> 01:09:17,644
And they said, okay, this time
we are gonna blow up Hogwarts.
1515
01:09:17,728 --> 01:09:19,772
Oh, yeah, you got to do it,
didn't you? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1516
01:09:19,855 --> 01:09:21,940
And they said,
so we will take your cue.
1517
01:09:22,024 --> 01:09:24,318
When you do your spell,
it will blow up.
1518
01:09:26,236 --> 01:09:30,240
And I was actually
really surprised and scared
1519
01:09:30,324 --> 01:09:32,618
by my own reaction,
'cause I thought, "Wow."
1520
01:09:36,205 --> 01:09:38,123
It was this horrible thrill
of power.
1521
01:09:38,207 --> 01:09:39,625
Right.
1522
01:09:39,708 --> 01:09:41,835
And, like, I've had
that amount... just pointing
1523
01:09:41,919 --> 01:09:43,962
my wand there
and then it blew up.
1524
01:09:44,046 --> 01:09:45,798
Yeah, it's a lot
more satisfying than,
1525
01:09:45,881 --> 01:09:47,674
you know,
making a feather levitate.
1526
01:09:47,758 --> 01:09:50,469
Yeah.
1527
01:09:51,428 --> 01:09:52,805
So what was Draco doing
1528
01:09:52,888 --> 01:09:54,348
with that
weird-looking cabinet,
1529
01:09:54,431 --> 01:09:56,975
and who were all those people?
Don't you see?
1530
01:09:57,059 --> 01:09:59,394
It was a ceremony,
an initiation.
1531
01:09:59,478 --> 01:10:00,687
Stop it, Harry.
1532
01:10:00,771 --> 01:10:01,980
I know where
you're going with this.
1533
01:10:02,064 --> 01:10:04,358
It happened.
He's one of them.
1534
01:10:04,441 --> 01:10:05,526
One of what?
1535
01:10:06,610 --> 01:10:07,861
Harry is under the impression
1536
01:10:07,945 --> 01:10:10,239
Draco Malfoy is now
a Death Eater.
1537
01:10:14,243 --> 01:10:16,036
The child who hasn't
received affection,
1538
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:19,123
the enabling love
of the parent or the adult
1539
01:10:19,206 --> 01:10:22,334
can develop this anger
and hatred at the world
1540
01:10:22,417 --> 01:10:23,877
and goes to the dark side.
1541
01:10:23,961 --> 01:10:26,088
You dare to talk to me
like that in my own house?
1542
01:10:26,171 --> 01:10:27,381
Lucius.
1543
01:10:27,464 --> 01:10:29,675
So much of what
Draco's journey is,
1544
01:10:29,758 --> 01:10:31,385
is to do with
whether he is or isn't
1545
01:10:31,468 --> 01:10:32,886
trying to please his father.
1546
01:10:32,970 --> 01:10:34,847
In the sixth film,
they make him do
1547
01:10:34,930 --> 01:10:37,266
the worst thing ever, or to
attempt the worst thing ever,
1548
01:10:37,349 --> 01:10:40,519
of killing Dumbledore, and
obviously we see him crumble.
1549
01:10:40,602 --> 01:10:44,481
Draco, years ago,
I knew a boy
1550
01:10:44,565 --> 01:10:47,568
who made all the wrong choices.
1551
01:10:48,819 --> 01:10:51,697
- Please let me help you.
- I don't want your help.
1552
01:10:52,698 --> 01:10:54,700
Don't you understand?
1553
01:10:54,783 --> 01:10:56,451
I have to do this.
1554
01:10:57,536 --> 01:10:59,621
I have to kill you.
1555
01:10:59,705 --> 01:11:01,248
Or he's gonna kill me.
1556
01:11:01,331 --> 01:11:02,833
With Tom, what was great
with "Half-Blood Prince"
1557
01:11:02,916 --> 01:11:05,544
was you suddenly
took this bad guy
1558
01:11:05,627 --> 01:11:07,087
who, in the previous films,
1559
01:11:07,171 --> 01:11:10,048
had always been
somewhat two dimensional.
1560
01:11:10,132 --> 01:11:12,718
And then we were able
to give him the opportunity
1561
01:11:12,801 --> 01:11:17,139
to explore a far more complex
and interesting journey.
1562
01:11:17,222 --> 01:11:19,308
And I sat down with him
and I said, "Tom, look,
1563
01:11:19,391 --> 01:11:21,977
this is your opportunity
to really shine."
1564
01:11:22,060 --> 01:11:25,230
I remember David Yates saying
if we can get
1565
01:11:25,314 --> 01:11:28,692
just 1% of empathy
or sympathy for him,
1566
01:11:28,775 --> 01:11:30,569
then we'll have done our job.
1567
01:11:30,652 --> 01:11:32,029
Do it.
1568
01:11:32,988 --> 01:11:34,531
To my mind,
Draco is the hero.
1569
01:11:34,615 --> 01:11:36,033
Harry's always gonna
do the right thing.
1570
01:11:36,116 --> 01:11:37,534
Harry's always gonna make
the right choice.
1571
01:11:37,618 --> 01:11:39,495
There's never really
any dilemma for him.
1572
01:11:39,578 --> 01:11:42,623
Draco breaks the chains
of this terrible family
1573
01:11:42,706 --> 01:11:45,083
in his responsibility
and what he's expected to do.
1574
01:11:45,167 --> 01:11:49,421
And to watch Tom create
that struggle on-screen
1575
01:11:49,504 --> 01:11:51,590
and really manifest
all that nuance,
1576
01:11:51,673 --> 01:11:52,758
all that complication,
1577
01:11:52,841 --> 01:11:54,509
all that great
ethical minefield
1578
01:11:54,593 --> 01:11:58,388
that he tiptoes through
was... it was just so impressive.
1579
01:11:58,472 --> 01:11:59,806
No.
1580
01:12:11,693 --> 01:12:13,278
Severus.
1581
01:12:22,162 --> 01:12:23,747
Please.
1582
01:12:24,665 --> 01:12:26,500
Avada Kedavra!
1583
01:12:37,052 --> 01:12:38,804
It's obviously amazing
to be back,
1584
01:12:38,887 --> 01:12:41,807
but it's like it's so...
1585
01:12:41,890 --> 01:12:44,810
I guess, like,
shocking that so many people
1586
01:12:44,893 --> 01:12:47,562
that we both thought
would be around for much longer
1587
01:12:47,646 --> 01:12:49,648
than they have been,
1588
01:12:49,731 --> 01:12:54,403
like Helen and Alan
and Richard and...
1589
01:12:54,486 --> 01:12:57,322
Yeah, they're like fam...
like family,
1590
01:12:57,406 --> 01:12:59,157
you can grieve in the same way.
1591
01:12:59,241 --> 01:13:02,327
- Yeah.
- Just too soon.
1592
01:13:02,411 --> 01:13:03,954
Yeah.
1593
01:13:13,964 --> 01:13:17,009
Do not pity the dead, Harry.
1594
01:13:17,092 --> 01:13:19,511
Pity the living,
1595
01:13:19,594 --> 01:13:23,765
and above all, all those
who live without love.
1596
01:13:29,104 --> 01:13:32,774
It does not do
to dwell on dreams, Harry,
1597
01:13:32,858 --> 01:13:35,110
and forget to live.
1598
01:13:38,113 --> 01:13:43,368
Richard Harris was
such a special, warm person.
1599
01:13:44,661 --> 01:13:46,496
He was so twinkly.
1600
01:13:48,665 --> 01:13:50,167
Well, Richard was classic.
1601
01:13:50,250 --> 01:13:52,878
Probably one of
the funniest men I've ever met.
1602
01:13:52,961 --> 01:13:54,880
He was this devilish
11-year-old
1603
01:13:54,963 --> 01:13:57,966
trapped in
a 70-plus-year-old man's body.
1604
01:13:58,050 --> 01:14:00,302
Will you give us
another twirl, ace?
1605
01:14:02,054 --> 01:14:03,597
He just had
that glint in his eye,
1606
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:06,016
which made him the perfect
Dumbledore, by the way.
1607
01:14:06,099 --> 01:14:08,143
Hmm, alas.
1608
01:14:09,770 --> 01:14:11,188
Ear wax.
1609
01:14:11,271 --> 01:14:15,984
Richard Griffiths was just
delicious as Mr. Dursley.
1610
01:14:16,068 --> 01:14:19,071
There's no such thing
as magic.
1611
01:14:20,113 --> 01:14:23,408
He embraced his wickedness
1612
01:14:23,492 --> 01:14:25,577
with such verve and passion.
1613
01:14:25,660 --> 01:14:27,954
His passing was the one
that has affected me most
1614
01:14:28,038 --> 01:14:29,581
because he was generous
with knowledge.
1615
01:14:29,664 --> 01:14:31,583
Just, like, wanted to share
everything with you.
1616
01:14:38,256 --> 01:14:42,427
I wondered when I'd be
seeing you, Mr. Potter.
1617
01:14:43,428 --> 01:14:46,264
I feel really lucky
to have some, you know,
1618
01:14:46,348 --> 01:14:47,933
some little bit of touch
1619
01:14:48,016 --> 01:14:50,227
with the amount of just
amazing people that passed.
1620
01:14:51,603 --> 01:14:54,106
You know, I'll be very,
very old one day saying, like,
1621
01:14:54,189 --> 01:14:56,775
"I knew that absolute legend."
1622
01:14:56,858 --> 01:14:58,735
I... I know
I ought not be here.
1623
01:15:00,362 --> 01:15:03,573
The Dark Lord himself
forbade me to speak of this.
1624
01:15:03,657 --> 01:15:05,367
Helen McCrory played
my wife.
1625
01:15:05,450 --> 01:15:07,327
I said, "I think I just met
1626
01:15:07,411 --> 01:15:09,788
the best actress
I've ever seen in my life."
1627
01:15:10,831 --> 01:15:11,957
Come.
1628
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:13,959
I feel lucky to have worked
with her
1629
01:15:14,042 --> 01:15:16,128
and shared just so much,
1630
01:15:16,211 --> 01:15:18,922
frankly, adolescent laughter
with her on the set.
1631
01:15:20,882 --> 01:15:22,592
She had taught me a lot.
1632
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:25,804
See, I can't even say it.
1633
01:15:30,183 --> 01:15:31,685
She had this ability, yeah,
1634
01:15:31,768 --> 01:15:36,523
just to sort of to show
such empathy in her eyes.
1635
01:15:37,232 --> 01:15:39,484
And it was a... it was
a real treat to work with her.
1636
01:15:44,739 --> 01:15:46,158
I can teach you
1637
01:15:46,241 --> 01:15:50,537
how to bewitch the mind
and ensnare the senses.
1638
01:15:50,620 --> 01:15:53,748
Alan Rickman never talked
to me like I was a child.
1639
01:15:53,832 --> 01:15:57,210
He always took
my thoughts and opinions
1640
01:15:57,294 --> 01:16:01,923
very seriously, which I was
always very touched by.
1641
01:16:02,007 --> 01:16:05,844
Alan was a very dear friend,
and we had that final scene.
1642
01:16:05,927 --> 01:16:07,637
His final scene.
1643
01:16:08,513 --> 01:16:12,017
It answers to you
1644
01:16:12,100 --> 01:16:14,519
and you only.
1645
01:16:15,353 --> 01:16:16,772
Does it?
1646
01:16:16,855 --> 01:16:19,107
I was a little intimidated
by him.
1647
01:16:19,191 --> 01:16:22,444
His precision,
his expert delivery of lines.
1648
01:16:22,527 --> 01:16:24,738
And we were sort of went
toe to toe in a funny way,
1649
01:16:24,821 --> 01:16:26,531
you know, Snape and Voldemort.
1650
01:16:26,615 --> 01:16:28,074
Two actors can relish
1651
01:16:28,158 --> 01:16:29,826
metaphorically fencing
with each other.
1652
01:16:29,910 --> 01:16:33,121
Alan was a magician
in that way as an actor.
1653
01:16:38,126 --> 01:16:40,587
The ones that love us
never really leave us.
1654
01:16:41,963 --> 01:16:43,715
And you can always find them.
1655
01:16:46,384 --> 01:16:47,552
In here.
1656
01:17:23,505 --> 01:17:25,006
Remember this.
1657
01:17:26,258 --> 01:17:28,176
You're not alone.
1658
01:17:32,180 --> 01:17:33,807
The Elder Wand.
1659
01:17:36,351 --> 01:17:38,979
The most powerful wand
ever made.
1660
01:17:39,062 --> 01:17:41,439
The Resurrection Stone.
1661
01:17:45,986 --> 01:17:48,947
The Cloak of Invisibility.
1662
01:17:50,198 --> 01:17:52,450
Together they make
the Deathly Hallows.
1663
01:17:52,534 --> 01:17:56,329
Together they make
one Master of Death.
1664
01:17:57,414 --> 01:17:59,416
The boy who lived.
1665
01:18:02,043 --> 01:18:03,169
Harry!
1666
01:18:09,092 --> 01:18:10,427
Come to die.
1667
01:18:10,510 --> 01:18:11,428
No!
1668
01:18:14,180 --> 01:18:16,016
Avada Kedavra!
1669
01:18:28,653 --> 01:18:31,990
The measures they had taken
to protect their families
1670
01:18:32,073 --> 01:18:35,410
made him realize more than
anything else could have done
1671
01:18:35,493 --> 01:18:38,163
that they really were
going to come with him
1672
01:18:38,246 --> 01:18:42,167
and that they knew exactly
how dangerous that would be.
1673
01:18:42,250 --> 01:18:44,961
He wanted to tell them
what that meant to him,
1674
01:18:45,045 --> 01:18:49,215
but he simply could not find
words important enough.
1675
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:00,185
It's both really cool.
1676
01:19:00,268 --> 01:19:03,438
It's really... and it's weird,
like, walking around here
1677
01:19:03,521 --> 01:19:06,858
and seeing the sets
that we were, like, kids on,
1678
01:19:06,941 --> 01:19:08,735
who treated everything
with the amount of respect
1679
01:19:08,818 --> 01:19:10,403
kids treat things when you're
just there and having fun.
1680
01:19:10,487 --> 01:19:11,780
- Yeah.
- It's weird.
1681
01:19:11,863 --> 01:19:13,073
I'm having, like,
weird, nostalgic moments.
1682
01:19:13,156 --> 01:19:14,366
Remember my hamster?
1683
01:19:14,449 --> 01:19:15,408
Does anybody
remember my hamster?
1684
01:19:15,492 --> 01:19:16,868
- Yes.
- Millie.
1685
01:19:16,951 --> 01:19:18,203
Yeah. I didn't remember
the hamster's name.
1686
01:19:18,286 --> 01:19:19,579
- I'm sorry.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1687
01:19:19,663 --> 01:19:20,872
That's okay.
Rest in peace, Millie.
1688
01:19:20,955 --> 01:19:22,415
I remember you having
a hamster
1689
01:19:22,499 --> 01:19:24,084
and being vaguely jealous
that you had an animal
1690
01:19:24,167 --> 01:19:26,461
- that was on set with you.
- They made a coffin for it.
1691
01:19:26,544 --> 01:19:27,879
- The carpentry department.
- They did, yeah.
1692
01:19:27,962 --> 01:19:30,090
When Millie died,
the set designers built
1693
01:19:30,173 --> 01:19:33,802
Millie her own
custom-made wooden coffin
1694
01:19:33,885 --> 01:19:35,470
that had velvet
on the inside of it.
1695
01:19:35,553 --> 01:19:36,721
- It was beautiful.
- Whoa!
1696
01:19:36,805 --> 01:19:38,890
And... and it had
her name engraved
1697
01:19:38,973 --> 01:19:41,267
because I was, I mean,
I was beside myself.
1698
01:19:41,351 --> 01:19:42,560
Did we do, like, a service?
1699
01:19:42,644 --> 01:19:44,229
I feel like we said
a few words.
1700
01:19:44,312 --> 01:19:47,607
I kept wanting to pick up
dead Millie, and, like,
1701
01:19:47,691 --> 01:19:49,776
stroke and touch dead Millie.
1702
01:19:49,859 --> 01:19:51,486
And he was like, "Emma,
1703
01:19:51,569 --> 01:19:54,739
Millie's got to, like,
stay in the coffin now."
1704
01:19:54,823 --> 01:19:57,117
I have forgotten
so much of this.
1705
01:19:57,200 --> 01:20:00,078
It doesn't feel like
much time has passed.
1706
01:20:00,161 --> 01:20:01,663
I know.
1707
01:20:01,746 --> 01:20:03,039
We all still look better
than we do in the epilogue.
1708
01:20:03,123 --> 01:20:04,749
- Yes.
- I was gonna say.
1709
01:20:04,833 --> 01:20:06,167
Which is great. Like,
we've made it in before that.
1710
01:20:08,712 --> 01:20:10,755
- Bag?
- Yeah.
1711
01:20:10,839 --> 01:20:12,048
Jumper?
1712
01:20:12,132 --> 01:20:15,385
I was all forehead
and a fat suit.
1713
01:20:15,468 --> 01:20:17,554
- Yeah, I was very, I was...
- I think I kind of...
1714
01:20:17,637 --> 01:20:18,972
Yeah, you went for it.
1715
01:20:19,055 --> 01:20:20,390
You were like,
"Give me the full, give me..."
1716
01:20:20,473 --> 01:20:21,474
I did, yeah.
Give me everything.
1717
01:20:21,558 --> 01:20:22,684
Yeah, you went all in.
1718
01:20:22,767 --> 01:20:25,186
- Yeah.
- I was so proud of you.
1719
01:20:27,188 --> 01:20:29,190
No one else can really quite
understand
1720
01:20:29,274 --> 01:20:31,484
what we experienced;
it's a very unique thing.
1721
01:20:31,568 --> 01:20:34,821
Think David Yates used
to describe us as astronauts
1722
01:20:34,904 --> 01:20:38,825
'cause no one else has really
experienced this in this scale.
1723
01:20:38,908 --> 01:20:41,578
And we'll be kind of
forever bonded by that.
1724
01:20:46,499 --> 01:20:47,917
Some of
the sweetest memories I have
1725
01:20:48,001 --> 01:20:49,544
from the three of us
is just each of us
1726
01:20:49,627 --> 01:20:52,046
knowing we sort of needed
to take care of each other
1727
01:20:52,130 --> 01:20:53,548
in just small ways.
1728
01:20:53,631 --> 01:20:55,467
Just in terms of, like,
it's really cold.
1729
01:20:55,550 --> 01:20:58,803
Like we're all gonna...
we're all gonna stand together
1730
01:20:58,887 --> 01:21:00,430
or I'm knackered.
1731
01:21:00,513 --> 01:21:03,391
Are you okay, Dan,
if I, like, fall asleep on you,
1732
01:21:03,475 --> 01:21:07,145
like, in between this take,
'cause I'm so tired or...
1733
01:21:07,228 --> 01:21:09,481
I think we have all
fallen asleep in various
1734
01:21:09,564 --> 01:21:10,899
like on... on each other
1735
01:21:10,982 --> 01:21:12,817
in, like, some of
the most grand cathedrals
1736
01:21:12,901 --> 01:21:15,570
and things in the UK.
1737
01:21:15,653 --> 01:21:17,322
The level of trust I had
1738
01:21:17,405 --> 01:21:20,492
and that we did build
over those 10 years was like,
1739
01:21:20,575 --> 01:21:22,160
if we were doing a stunt,
1740
01:21:22,243 --> 01:21:24,996
I trusted that
one of you would catch me.
1741
01:21:25,079 --> 01:21:26,790
I feel like that kind of
trust and reliance
1742
01:21:26,873 --> 01:21:28,917
and that takes, you know,
1743
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:30,502
there's very few
work environments
1744
01:21:30,585 --> 01:21:32,003
where you get that much time
to build that up.
1745
01:21:32,086 --> 01:21:33,755
And it was like nonverbal.
Like it was,
1746
01:21:33,838 --> 01:21:35,590
it was like the three of us
could communicate
1747
01:21:35,673 --> 01:21:37,884
without even having
to say anything.
1748
01:21:37,967 --> 01:21:39,844
We just knew
what needed to be done.
1749
01:21:39,928 --> 01:21:43,264
We were each very strong
for each other.
1750
01:21:44,516 --> 01:21:46,100
Need to change.
1751
01:21:52,440 --> 01:21:53,691
How, Hermione?
1752
01:21:53,775 --> 01:21:55,735
Undetectable extension charm.
1753
01:21:57,028 --> 01:21:58,404
You're amazing, you are.
1754
01:21:59,489 --> 01:22:01,449
Always the tone of surprise.
1755
01:22:01,533 --> 01:22:03,993
These films had
a very different feel.
1756
01:22:04,077 --> 01:22:05,578
We were away from Hogwarts.
1757
01:22:05,662 --> 01:22:08,748
A lot of the time
camping out different places.
1758
01:22:08,832 --> 01:22:10,500
The tone was a lot darker.
1759
01:22:10,583 --> 01:22:12,210
It felt like a different film.
1760
01:22:12,293 --> 01:22:14,295
Dumbledore sends you off
to find all these Horcruxes,
1761
01:22:14,379 --> 01:22:16,047
but it doesn't tell you
how to destroy them?
1762
01:22:16,130 --> 01:22:17,757
It's very refreshing,
I think,
1763
01:22:17,841 --> 01:22:21,261
'cause we all got to do
some a lot more serious stuff.
1764
01:22:21,344 --> 01:22:22,929
And it was a real opportunity
1765
01:22:23,012 --> 01:22:24,556
to go deeper with these
characters.
1766
01:22:24,639 --> 01:22:26,432
Are you coming,
are you staying?
1767
01:22:30,979 --> 01:22:33,398
I saw you two the other night.
1768
01:22:33,481 --> 01:22:36,025
Ron, that's... that's nothing.
1769
01:22:38,111 --> 01:22:39,320
Ron...
1770
01:22:40,071 --> 01:22:42,073
The scene that I thought
was gonna be really awkward
1771
01:22:42,156 --> 01:22:43,908
and I wasn't sure about at all
1772
01:22:43,992 --> 01:22:45,910
which was us doing our dance.
1773
01:22:45,994 --> 01:22:48,079
- Yeah.
- Like I... now that's one
1774
01:22:48,162 --> 01:22:51,499
of my favorite scenes
from the whole of the series,
1775
01:22:51,583 --> 01:22:54,085
because the level
of familiarity that you and I
1776
01:22:54,169 --> 01:22:56,087
had with each other,
at that point, I didn't think
1777
01:22:56,170 --> 01:22:58,131
I could have done a scene
like that with another actor.
1778
01:22:58,214 --> 01:22:59,841
Well, it's also an
interesting scene 'cause like,
1779
01:22:59,924 --> 01:23:01,718
first of all, we were doing
Harry Potter films.
1780
01:23:01,801 --> 01:23:03,636
And then on the last movie,
the director came and was like,
1781
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:05,763
"Hey, how about you do
slow dancing to Nick Cave
1782
01:23:05,847 --> 01:23:07,265
for five minutes?"
1783
01:23:07,348 --> 01:23:08,600
We're like, "Wait,
what movie are we working on?"
1784
01:23:08,683 --> 01:23:10,143
Like, "Great, but okay."
1785
01:23:10,226 --> 01:23:13,563
♪ I once was blind,
but now I see ♪
1786
01:23:13,646 --> 01:23:17,275
♪ Have you left
a seat for me? ♪
1787
01:23:17,358 --> 01:23:21,988
♪ Is that such a stretch
of the imagination? ♪
1788
01:23:22,071 --> 01:23:25,033
♪ Hey, little train,
we're jumping on ♪
1789
01:23:25,116 --> 01:23:28,786
♪ The train that goes
to the kingdom ♪
1790
01:23:28,870 --> 01:23:32,957
♪ We're happy, Ma,
we're having fun ♪
1791
01:23:34,459 --> 01:23:35,668
There's so much said
in the scene.
1792
01:23:35,752 --> 01:23:37,462
It was unspoken. I loved that.
1793
01:23:37,545 --> 01:23:39,797
And also in the same way
that for the characters,
1794
01:23:39,881 --> 01:23:41,507
they got to have
a moment of fun.
1795
01:23:41,591 --> 01:23:43,009
I feel like you and I got
to have a moment of fun.
1796
01:23:43,092 --> 01:23:44,469
- Yeah, certainly.
- Which we also...
1797
01:23:44,552 --> 01:23:45,970
Needed at that point.
1798
01:23:46,054 --> 01:23:47,805
- You know?
- Yes, absolutely.
1799
01:23:47,889 --> 01:23:50,934
Treacherous little bleeder.
Is there no one we can trust?
1800
01:23:51,017 --> 01:23:52,810
There was that, like... that
scene on the last movie
1801
01:23:52,894 --> 01:23:54,646
where it was like us
running through the forest.
1802
01:23:54,729 --> 01:23:56,147
We were racing through
the woods
1803
01:23:56,230 --> 01:23:58,107
trying not to be caught
by the Snatchers.
1804
01:23:58,191 --> 01:23:59,525
And action.
1805
01:24:01,069 --> 01:24:03,655
Well, don't hang about.
Snatch him.
1806
01:24:03,738 --> 01:24:05,990
Honestly, I remember
you and I, Emma,
1807
01:24:06,074 --> 01:24:07,283
becoming
incredibly competitive...
1808
01:24:07,367 --> 01:24:08,576
Ridiculously competitive.
1809
01:24:08,660 --> 01:24:10,870
About who was
gonna run faster.
1810
01:24:10,954 --> 01:24:12,664
Give me five. That rocked!
Whoo-hoo!
1811
01:24:12,747 --> 01:24:14,415
I feel like
Rupert was always, like,
1812
01:24:14,499 --> 01:24:16,000
a little bit, too, like,
"You guys do what you like."
1813
01:24:16,084 --> 01:24:18,002
He was just like,
"You do your thing."
1814
01:24:18,086 --> 01:24:19,254
- Yeah...
- I be here.
1815
01:24:19,337 --> 01:24:21,339
For me, running is a stunt,
1816
01:24:21,422 --> 01:24:23,007
walking is a stunt.
1817
01:24:25,927 --> 01:24:27,345
Oof.
1818
01:24:29,263 --> 01:24:30,848
I absolutely do not like
1819
01:24:30,932 --> 01:24:32,642
watching very many scenes
of myself in that,
1820
01:24:32,725 --> 01:24:34,435
but I've watched you two
and I think you're brilliant.
1821
01:24:34,519 --> 01:24:36,354
I remember that was a really
sweet thing, though.
1822
01:24:36,437 --> 01:24:38,773
I do actually remember that the
three of us telling each other
1823
01:24:38,856 --> 01:24:40,984
that we were doing a good job
or that we'd done a scene well.
1824
01:24:41,067 --> 01:24:43,069
Especially 'cause we had
started off young
1825
01:24:43,152 --> 01:24:44,570
and really not knowing
what we were doing.
1826
01:24:44,654 --> 01:24:46,197
So that when we'd see
each other do
1827
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:47,991
like a bit of real acting,
you'd go, "Oh, cool."
1828
01:24:48,074 --> 01:24:49,701
- "That was... that's was cool."
- Yeah, "Well done."
1829
01:24:49,784 --> 01:24:51,160
Like, yeah that was... I guess
we're all getting better.
1830
01:24:51,244 --> 01:24:52,328
- Crushed it.
- Great. Well done.
1831
01:24:52,412 --> 01:24:53,913
- Yeah, yeah.
- I mean.
1832
01:24:53,997 --> 01:24:58,584
Obviously, us kissing
was the most horrifying thing
1833
01:24:58,668 --> 01:25:00,003
- either of us...
- Oh.
1834
01:25:00,086 --> 01:25:02,296
- Yeah.
- Have ever had to go through.
1835
01:25:07,010 --> 01:25:08,594
I'm Hermione Granger.
1836
01:25:08,678 --> 01:25:11,222
And you are?
1837
01:25:11,305 --> 01:25:14,100
- I'm Ron Weasley.
- Pleasure.
1838
01:25:14,183 --> 01:25:18,521
"It's levi-ohh-sa,"
not levio-sahh."
1839
01:25:18,604 --> 01:25:20,773
She's a nightmare, honestly.
1840
01:25:20,857 --> 01:25:22,900
No wonder she hasn't got
any friends.
1841
01:25:24,694 --> 01:25:26,237
I think she heard you.
1842
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:28,448
It was just built up so much
for the whole series.
1843
01:25:28,531 --> 01:25:29,699
Eight films.
1844
01:25:29,782 --> 01:25:31,409
I love Ron
and Hermione's romance
1845
01:25:31,492 --> 01:25:34,078
and the way
that sort of just bubbles away
1846
01:25:34,162 --> 01:25:35,997
under the story constantly.
1847
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:37,707
Uh... um...
1848
01:25:42,545 --> 01:25:46,340
This relationship has been
so restrained for so long.
1849
01:25:46,424 --> 01:25:48,259
Got a bit of toothpaste.
1850
01:25:50,094 --> 01:25:52,764
Slughorn's having
Christmas, too, you know.
1851
01:25:52,847 --> 01:25:54,182
And we're meant
to bring someone.
1852
01:25:54,265 --> 01:25:56,100
I expect you'll be
bringing McLaggen?
1853
01:25:56,184 --> 01:25:59,562
The audience are desperate
to see these two kiss.
1854
01:25:59,645 --> 01:26:01,272
Actually,
I was going to ask you.
1855
01:26:01,355 --> 01:26:02,940
Really?
1856
01:26:03,024 --> 01:26:04,859
There's a scene that we
should... it's nice and sweet
1857
01:26:04,942 --> 01:26:06,361
that we should talk about
once you've read it.
1858
01:26:06,444 --> 01:26:07,653
'Cause we'll be doing the kiss
this week
1859
01:26:07,737 --> 01:26:09,197
- between Ron and Hermione.
- What?
1860
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:10,656
Doing the kiss between
Ron and Hermione in...
1861
01:26:10,740 --> 01:26:11,949
- This week?
- This week?
1862
01:26:12,033 --> 01:26:13,951
In the chambers of secrets.
1863
01:26:14,035 --> 01:26:16,746
In this moment
of extraordinary jeopardy,
1864
01:26:16,829 --> 01:26:20,166
they turn to each other
and then they just kiss.
1865
01:26:23,002 --> 01:26:25,922
We've waited
seven movies for this.
1866
01:26:26,005 --> 01:26:28,257
I spoke to both of them
in their trailers,
1867
01:26:28,341 --> 01:26:30,468
made sure
they were both comfortable.
1868
01:26:30,551 --> 01:26:34,347
It was almost like prepping
them for a major sports event.
1869
01:26:34,430 --> 01:26:36,557
You know, saying,
"Okay guys, you can do this.
1870
01:26:36,641 --> 01:26:38,309
It's gonna be great."
1871
01:26:38,392 --> 01:26:40,978
It was meant to be, like,
this, like, dramatic make out.
1872
01:26:41,062 --> 01:26:42,480
'Cause you and I
just kept corpsing...
1873
01:26:42,563 --> 01:26:43,940
- like, we just kept laughing.
- Yeah, yeah.
1874
01:26:44,023 --> 01:26:45,316
And I was just
really scared
1875
01:26:45,399 --> 01:26:46,692
we were never gonna
get it because...
1876
01:26:46,776 --> 01:26:48,027
We couldn't take
it seriously.
1877
01:26:49,737 --> 01:26:51,781
I did not make this better
because I've been told
1878
01:26:51,864 --> 01:26:54,158
significantly that I was
just being an absolute dick
1879
01:26:54,242 --> 01:26:55,618
about this and was like,
1880
01:26:55,701 --> 01:26:57,328
"I'm gonna come on set
and watch you guys kiss."
1881
01:26:57,411 --> 01:26:59,205
Well, everyone wanted to be
on set for it.
1882
01:26:59,288 --> 01:27:01,707
'Cause everyone was like,
"This is gonna be good, guys."
1883
01:27:01,791 --> 01:27:03,334
- Like we need...
- I'm sorry about that, guys.
1884
01:27:03,417 --> 01:27:04,836
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1885
01:27:04,919 --> 01:27:06,671
I knew I was gonna kind of
have to be the one
1886
01:27:06,754 --> 01:27:08,548
to kinda make this thing happen
1887
01:27:08,631 --> 01:27:12,385
because Rupert was not gonna,
so I just had to go for it.
1888
01:27:12,468 --> 01:27:14,095
Taking no prisoners.
1889
01:27:14,178 --> 01:27:17,473
I needed like, momentum into
the kiss in order to do it.
1890
01:27:17,557 --> 01:27:20,476
And Rupert's, I could almost
on that first take,
1891
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:24,188
I saw Rupert's face
explode with surprise,
1892
01:27:24,272 --> 01:27:26,274
'cause he thought,
"It's only the first take."
1893
01:27:26,357 --> 01:27:28,359
Kinda think I blacked out.
I just remember
1894
01:27:28,442 --> 01:27:31,362
your face getting
closer and closer to mine.
1895
01:27:31,445 --> 01:27:32,905
Every time you talk
about this,
1896
01:27:32,989 --> 01:27:35,324
you make it sound
like an actual horror show
1897
01:27:35,408 --> 01:27:36,367
in your head.
1898
01:27:36,450 --> 01:27:38,744
It wasn't that bad. I know.
1899
01:27:50,131 --> 01:27:52,592
Kissing Rupert
is one of the hardest things
1900
01:27:52,675 --> 01:27:54,302
I've ever had to do.
1901
01:27:54,385 --> 01:27:57,180
It just felt wrong,
1902
01:27:57,263 --> 01:27:59,056
so wrong on every level
1903
01:27:59,140 --> 01:28:02,185
because Dan, Rupert, and I
are so much siblings.
1904
01:28:06,314 --> 01:28:07,565
Harry?
1905
01:28:07,648 --> 01:28:09,233
All three of us,
I think, felt so matched
1906
01:28:09,317 --> 01:28:12,153
in how much it meant to us.
1907
01:28:13,154 --> 01:28:15,323
I remember the scene
when you were like, "No, guys,
1908
01:28:15,406 --> 01:28:17,241
I'm the one who has to go
on my own kinda thing
1909
01:28:17,325 --> 01:28:19,076
on this... this one."
1910
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:20,578
And I gave you the hug to say
goodbye.
1911
01:28:20,661 --> 01:28:23,206
- I'll go with you.
- No, kill the snake.
1912
01:28:25,666 --> 01:28:28,586
I knew I was saying
goodbye to the series.
1913
01:28:28,669 --> 01:28:30,463
I knew I was saying
goodbye to you.
1914
01:28:30,546 --> 01:28:32,882
And I just had to just
bring to the surface
1915
01:28:32,965 --> 01:28:38,054
how I really felt
about it all coming to an end.
1916
01:28:38,137 --> 01:28:39,555
Yeah.
1917
01:28:51,526 --> 01:28:52,902
It's a very biblical image
1918
01:28:52,985 --> 01:28:54,946
carrying Harry
across the bridge.
1919
01:28:57,698 --> 01:29:00,952
If you ask Jo or anyone
who's deeply involved in it,
1920
01:29:01,035 --> 01:29:03,788
they'll just say it's the
battle between good and evil.
1921
01:29:03,871 --> 01:29:05,331
It's as simple as that.
1922
01:29:08,626 --> 01:29:11,545
I owe so much to Neville
as a character.
1923
01:29:11,629 --> 01:29:13,089
I was very, very shy,
I wouldn't...
1924
01:29:13,172 --> 01:29:14,715
I would never
speak up in class.
1925
01:29:14,799 --> 01:29:16,008
I wouldn't put my hand up
for anything
1926
01:29:16,092 --> 01:29:18,761
'cause I-I very much was him.
1927
01:29:20,346 --> 01:29:24,100
Great story of Neville
is that he's the champion.
1928
01:29:26,227 --> 01:29:27,770
That wonderful bit
at the end.
1929
01:29:27,853 --> 01:29:29,814
That great speech
of Matthew's, you know.
1930
01:29:31,732 --> 01:29:33,609
Good must prevail, of course.
1931
01:29:34,485 --> 01:29:35,987
It doesn't matter
that Harry's gone.
1932
01:29:36,070 --> 01:29:37,446
Stand down, Neville.
1933
01:29:37,530 --> 01:29:39,657
People die every day.
1934
01:29:39,740 --> 01:29:41,492
We lost Harry tonight.
1935
01:29:43,703 --> 01:29:47,331
He's still with us in here.
1936
01:29:50,251 --> 01:29:51,752
He didn't die in vain.
1937
01:29:51,836 --> 01:29:53,504
But the thing
that Harry Potter did for me,
1938
01:29:53,587 --> 01:29:57,383
both as a... as a story
and as an actor in it...
1939
01:29:57,466 --> 01:29:59,010
But you will.
1940
01:29:59,093 --> 01:30:01,387
Was that it helped me
to find first what I'm not.
1941
01:30:01,470 --> 01:30:05,016
Harry's heart did beat for us.
For all of us.
1942
01:30:05,099 --> 01:30:08,436
Which, therefore,
by extension, found what I am.
1943
01:30:10,438 --> 01:30:12,273
Confrigo!
1944
01:30:21,449 --> 01:30:23,576
We're looking at the book,
the final confrontation
1945
01:30:23,659 --> 01:30:25,703
between Voldemort and Harry.
1946
01:30:25,786 --> 01:30:27,079
It takes place
in the Great Hall
1947
01:30:27,163 --> 01:30:29,248
with a huge audience watching.
1948
01:30:29,332 --> 01:30:32,793
And I really wanted something
earthier and more intense
1949
01:30:32,877 --> 01:30:35,296
and more visceral than that.
1950
01:30:35,379 --> 01:30:39,258
Because these two adversaries
were almost joined
1951
01:30:39,342 --> 01:30:43,721
spiritually, if you like,
in this strange, horcrux-y way,
1952
01:30:43,804 --> 01:30:45,431
I thought, wouldn't
it be wonderful
1953
01:30:45,514 --> 01:30:49,894
if Dan just grabbed Ralph
and pulled him off this tower?
1954
01:30:49,977 --> 01:30:53,230
Come on, Tom, let's finish
this the way we started it.
1955
01:30:53,314 --> 01:30:55,066
Together.
1956
01:30:55,149 --> 01:30:57,568
As they apparate,
they merge together
1957
01:30:57,651 --> 01:30:59,737
that deep connection
that we'd sort of
1958
01:30:59,820 --> 01:31:02,865
threaded through the stories
and the films,
1959
01:31:02,948 --> 01:31:04,533
you'd visualize in that moment
1960
01:31:04,617 --> 01:31:06,952
before they tumbled down
into the courtyard.
1961
01:31:11,123 --> 01:31:12,541
I remember being
quite physically tired.
1962
01:31:12,625 --> 01:31:13,918
We put everything into it.
1963
01:31:14,001 --> 01:31:15,544
We were exhausted,
I think, at the end.
1964
01:31:15,628 --> 01:31:17,421
We were shooting
in cold months
1965
01:31:17,505 --> 01:31:18,547
and the skies were gray.
1966
01:31:18,631 --> 01:31:20,257
My forearm got so tight
1967
01:31:20,341 --> 01:31:22,301
'cause this thing,
this running current in you,
1968
01:31:22,385 --> 01:31:24,637
you had to...
1969
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:26,055
push it back at him.
1970
01:31:26,931 --> 01:31:30,309
As well as the physical
challenge of making the films,
1971
01:31:30,393 --> 01:31:32,853
there was that small pressure
of thinking,
1972
01:31:32,937 --> 01:31:34,605
"You're the one
who's gonna finish this.
1973
01:31:34,688 --> 01:31:37,608
"It has to go out on a high.
It has to be meaningful.
1974
01:31:37,691 --> 01:31:40,945
It has to resonate.
It has to deliver."
1975
01:32:30,494 --> 01:32:33,330
- Who are you?
- Hello, my name is Emma Watson
1976
01:32:33,414 --> 01:32:35,291
playing the part
of Hermione Granger.
1977
01:32:35,374 --> 01:32:37,835
- I'm horrified.
- No, never.
1978
01:32:37,918 --> 01:32:39,670
- What?
- Never mind.
1979
01:32:39,753 --> 01:32:41,046
You rather not
be seen like this?
1980
01:32:41,130 --> 01:32:42,590
- Yeah.
- Why?
1981
01:32:42,673 --> 01:32:44,175
'Cause he doesn't like
the clip in his hair.
1982
01:32:44,258 --> 01:32:46,010
- Yeah.
- Mr. Radcliffe.
1983
01:32:46,093 --> 01:32:47,803
- Yep. Ah!
- Ah?
1984
01:32:47,887 --> 01:32:49,263
Camera, ah!
1985
01:32:49,346 --> 01:32:50,723
You're from the press?
1986
01:32:50,806 --> 01:32:52,808
I'm from the press, exactly.
How did you know?
1987
01:32:52,892 --> 01:32:54,852
It's your first day.
How does it feel?
1988
01:32:54,935 --> 01:32:57,188
It feels
absolutely fantastic.
1989
01:32:57,271 --> 01:32:58,397
Are you excited?
1990
01:32:58,481 --> 01:33:01,484
Very much so. Can't wait.
1991
01:33:01,567 --> 01:33:04,778
After all this preparation,
finally happening.
1992
01:33:04,862 --> 01:33:07,448
Okay, get back to work.
People need to pamper you.
1993
01:33:07,531 --> 01:33:08,991
- Yeah.
- Right.
1994
01:33:13,662 --> 01:33:15,539
What do you think about when
you think about it now, Rup?
1995
01:33:15,623 --> 01:33:16,832
As you look back on...
1996
01:33:16,916 --> 01:33:18,083
like, for me,
it's very good memories.
1997
01:33:18,167 --> 01:33:19,460
Like, what is it for you?
1998
01:33:19,543 --> 01:33:21,128
I'm very proud
to have been part of them.
1999
01:33:21,212 --> 01:33:23,756
I think towards the end
it was kind of a weird time,
2000
01:33:23,839 --> 01:33:25,716
especially kind of finishing.
2001
01:33:25,799 --> 01:33:27,384
I felt like I lost track
2002
01:33:27,468 --> 01:33:29,553
of who I was
and who the character was.
2003
01:33:29,637 --> 01:33:32,223
I didn't really know
where they ended or began.
2004
01:33:32,306 --> 01:33:33,641
Yeah, there were some things
that I'm just like,
2005
01:33:33,724 --> 01:33:34,683
who... who am I?
2006
01:33:34,767 --> 01:33:35,768
Like, what do I like to do?
2007
01:33:35,851 --> 01:33:37,186
What... what is important to me?
2008
01:33:37,269 --> 01:33:38,479
Like, it was weird things.
2009
01:33:38,562 --> 01:33:39,772
Even my name
didn't feel like my name.
2010
01:33:39,855 --> 01:33:41,106
- Yeah.
- I felt I only
2011
01:33:41,190 --> 01:33:42,399
really knew
how to do one thing.
2012
01:33:42,483 --> 01:33:43,817
- Yeah.
- I knew how to play Ron.
2013
01:33:43,901 --> 01:33:45,277
Ron was my favorite character,
2014
01:33:45,361 --> 01:33:47,571
so it was so cool
being him in the film.
2015
01:33:47,655 --> 01:33:49,073
It's almost like we did
2016
01:33:49,156 --> 01:33:52,826
the most extreme form
of method acting.
2017
01:33:52,910 --> 01:33:54,828
It always had to end
at some point.
2018
01:33:54,912 --> 01:33:58,415
We were never gonna
be doing this forever.
2019
01:33:58,499 --> 01:34:00,251
The way it feels for me now,
2020
01:34:00,334 --> 01:34:03,420
like, seeing you here,
having had time apart...
2021
01:34:04,338 --> 01:34:06,298
Let me try not
to get emotional.
2022
01:34:06,382 --> 01:34:09,009
It feels like you're like
a pillar of my life.
2023
01:34:09,093 --> 01:34:10,261
That's a very
overwhelming thing,
2024
01:34:10,344 --> 01:34:11,679
'cause I've watched you
grow up.
2025
01:34:11,762 --> 01:34:12,763
We've watched each other
grow up.
2026
01:34:12,846 --> 01:34:13,973
We grew up together.
2027
01:34:14,056 --> 01:34:16,308
We're family.
We always will be.
2028
01:34:16,392 --> 01:34:19,311
We don't need to see each...
oh, my God.
2029
01:34:19,395 --> 01:34:23,357
Even though we don't see
each other all the time.
2030
01:34:23,440 --> 01:34:25,192
Yeah, it's a...
2031
01:34:26,652 --> 01:34:27,903
It's a strong...
2032
01:34:27,987 --> 01:34:29,530
a strong bond
that we will always have.
2033
01:34:29,613 --> 01:34:33,617
And we will always be part
of each other's lives.
2034
01:34:44,295 --> 01:34:47,381
- Oh, it's so nice to see you.
- So good to see you.
2035
01:34:49,300 --> 01:34:50,551
I love you.
2036
01:34:56,557 --> 01:34:57,641
As a friend.
2037
01:35:00,227 --> 01:35:01,812
- Just to be clear.
- Just to be clear.
2038
01:35:01,895 --> 01:35:03,480
For everyone watching.
2039
01:35:03,564 --> 01:35:06,817
But it's true.
There's so much love.
2040
01:35:06,901 --> 01:35:08,444
Oh, thanks, Rupes.
2041
01:35:08,527 --> 01:35:09,987
Let's do a rehearsal,
2042
01:35:10,070 --> 01:35:12,531
and it can playback I need
to playback from the top.
2043
01:35:12,615 --> 01:35:14,742
When you're ready, and action.
2044
01:35:15,868 --> 01:35:18,621
When we were all wrapping up
those final scenes,
2045
01:35:18,704 --> 01:35:23,000
one of the last shots
we did in the entire shoot.
2046
01:35:23,083 --> 01:35:25,461
We were diving past
the camera
2047
01:35:25,544 --> 01:35:28,505
and landing
on this huge crash mat.
2048
01:35:28,589 --> 01:35:31,175
That was what it all
came down to, this one take.
2049
01:35:31,258 --> 01:35:33,344
It was jumping in a chimney.
2050
01:35:33,427 --> 01:35:36,847
It was such a metaphor for
what was actually happening.
2051
01:35:36,930 --> 01:35:39,683
We had to, like, jump
onto a mat, basically,
2052
01:35:39,767 --> 01:35:41,810
to travel into another world.
2053
01:35:42,728 --> 01:35:46,231
The collective emotion
was incredibly palpable
2054
01:35:46,315 --> 01:35:48,067
and... and for the people
who'd supported them
2055
01:35:48,150 --> 01:35:50,152
and had been there
for them throughout.
2056
01:35:50,235 --> 01:35:53,822
Everybody who'd
seen them grow up.
2057
01:35:57,618 --> 01:36:00,079
On that last day,
I just lost it.
2058
01:36:02,498 --> 01:36:05,125
I mean, I remember all of us
just holding each other.
2059
01:36:07,378 --> 01:36:11,882
All three of us
were, like, utterly devastated.
2060
01:36:14,259 --> 01:36:16,387
I think it was the first time
we'd allowed ourselves
2061
01:36:16,470 --> 01:36:20,891
to even process
or realize we'd done it.
2062
01:36:20,974 --> 01:36:22,810
We'd made it through.
2063
01:36:22,893 --> 01:36:24,478
It's so ingrained
in me as well,
2064
01:36:24,561 --> 01:36:27,272
like I measure
my life with these movies.
2065
01:36:27,356 --> 01:36:29,400
So it's like, "Oh, when did you
pass your driving test?"
2066
01:36:29,483 --> 01:36:32,194
I'm like,
"Order of the Phoenix."
2067
01:36:32,277 --> 01:36:36,949
Every part of my life
is connected to Potter.
2068
01:36:38,826 --> 01:36:41,537
When I meet people who
it's a really important part
2069
01:36:41,620 --> 01:36:44,248
of their life, or the books
or the films were in some way,
2070
01:36:44,331 --> 01:36:45,916
like, a part of their identity,
2071
01:36:45,999 --> 01:36:48,585
it, yeah,
it just makes you really proud.
2072
01:36:48,669 --> 01:36:50,838
There's something
about Harry Potter
2073
01:36:50,921 --> 01:36:52,589
that makes life richer.
2074
01:36:52,673 --> 01:36:55,843
Like, when things get really
dark and times are really hard,
2075
01:36:55,926 --> 01:36:58,262
stories give us places
we can go
2076
01:36:58,345 --> 01:37:02,850
where we can rest
and feel held.
2077
01:37:02,933 --> 01:37:04,601
I don't think I fully
appreciated the reach
2078
01:37:04,685 --> 01:37:07,062
that these films had
when we were in them.
2079
01:37:07,146 --> 01:37:08,772
The amount of people
that have said things like,
2080
01:37:08,856 --> 01:37:10,774
"These are the only films
my dad and I watched together.
2081
01:37:10,858 --> 01:37:12,317
"Like, we can't talk
about anything else.
2082
01:37:12,401 --> 01:37:13,777
"And like,
we watch Harry Potter together.
2083
01:37:13,861 --> 01:37:15,320
And that has been our thing."
2084
01:37:15,404 --> 01:37:18,699
It's amazing to... to be
a small kind of part of that.
2085
01:37:18,782 --> 01:37:21,952
And just seeing it kinda
relive on, finding new mediums,
2086
01:37:22,035 --> 01:37:24,079
like the stage show,
"Fantastic Beasts."
2087
01:37:24,163 --> 01:37:26,790
It's just kind of
living forever,
2088
01:37:26,874 --> 01:37:28,792
and it's amazing to see it.
2089
01:37:28,876 --> 01:37:31,587
Harry Potter! Harry Potter!
2090
01:37:31,670 --> 01:37:34,798
There's nothing like
the stories of Harry Potter.
2091
01:37:34,882 --> 01:37:36,175
The stories told within them,
2092
01:37:36,258 --> 01:37:38,385
the individual
characters' journeys.
2093
01:37:38,469 --> 01:37:39,970
I just think that has such
2094
01:37:40,053 --> 01:37:42,347
a transformative effect
on people.
2095
01:37:42,431 --> 01:37:43,348
That's magic.
2096
01:37:43,432 --> 01:37:44,808
It's beautiful here.
2097
01:37:44,892 --> 01:37:48,812
Every child wonders how
they're going to fit in.
2098
01:37:48,896 --> 01:37:52,316
And it's an epic journey
that every child goes on.
2099
01:37:52,399 --> 01:37:54,735
Dobby will always be there
for Harry Potter.
2100
01:37:54,818 --> 01:37:56,987
It's very inspiring
for young people to go,
2101
01:37:57,070 --> 01:37:59,531
"Oh, that could be me there
having that moment of doubt
2102
01:37:59,615 --> 01:38:02,576
or that wobble or that argument
with my parents."
2103
01:38:04,328 --> 01:38:06,163
Stay close to me.
2104
01:38:06,246 --> 01:38:08,207
Until the end.
2105
01:38:09,416 --> 01:38:12,252
I have found it
an extraordinary world
2106
01:38:12,336 --> 01:38:13,712
to be involved with.
2107
01:38:13,796 --> 01:38:16,423
And it's a...
it's a beautiful world.
2108
01:38:16,507 --> 01:38:17,466
Harry.
2109
01:38:17,549 --> 01:38:18,967
Harry.
2110
01:38:19,051 --> 01:38:20,511
Harry.
2111
01:38:20,594 --> 01:38:22,513
And that's what's so
profoundly therapeutic
2112
01:38:22,596 --> 01:38:24,890
and good about it, is it's made
2113
01:38:24,973 --> 01:38:27,684
people who otherwise
feel lonely,
2114
01:38:27,768 --> 01:38:29,269
they feel they belong.
2115
01:38:29,353 --> 01:38:31,230
- Don't give it to her, Harry.
- Shh.
2116
01:38:33,065 --> 01:38:34,858
Most of the fans
that... that come up
2117
01:38:34,942 --> 01:38:36,193
and say hello to me now
2118
01:38:36,276 --> 01:38:38,028
weren't even born
when we made the films.
2119
01:38:38,111 --> 01:38:42,908
So it quickly makes you feel
slightly older
2120
01:38:42,991 --> 01:38:45,619
and very grateful
2121
01:38:45,702 --> 01:38:49,248
that it's been passed down
to other generations.
2122
01:38:49,331 --> 01:38:51,291
Training for the ballet,
Potter?'
2123
01:38:55,254 --> 01:38:57,381
One of the things that
was unique about Harry Potter,
2124
01:38:57,464 --> 01:38:59,925
besides the incredible
imagination of worlds
2125
01:39:00,008 --> 01:39:03,720
and characters
that Jo Rowling created
2126
01:39:03,804 --> 01:39:07,057
was the fact that you get
to see young children
2127
01:39:07,140 --> 01:39:09,893
grow into adults
2128
01:39:09,977 --> 01:39:11,979
and to see
that journey on film.
2129
01:39:12,062 --> 01:39:14,398
I don't think we've ever
seen that before.
2130
01:39:14,481 --> 01:39:16,108
I don't know
if we'll ever see it again.
2131
01:39:16,191 --> 01:39:18,527
It just feel so lucky
that I get to be part
2132
01:39:18,610 --> 01:39:23,073
of a world that people love
so much and makes people happy.
2133
01:39:23,156 --> 01:39:24,283
There's something
about those...
2134
01:39:24,366 --> 01:39:26,034
the escapism you find.
2135
01:39:26,118 --> 01:39:27,953
The healthy form of escapism.
2136
01:39:28,036 --> 01:39:30,914
That, I think, is kind of
what Harry Potter does.
2137
01:39:30,998 --> 01:39:32,583
And that's what these stories
are for.
2138
01:39:32,666 --> 01:39:34,751
They are a guide
to how to live.
2139
01:39:34,835 --> 01:39:36,128
I just think
it's an end of an era.
2140
01:39:36,211 --> 01:39:37,796
It's a ten... ten years
of my life.
2141
01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:40,883
My... my children are grown up
during this, of course.
2142
01:39:40,966 --> 01:39:44,803
That is Robbie Coltrane,
finest gamekeeper in Hogwarts,
2143
01:39:44,887 --> 01:39:46,597
last day on Harry Potter.
2144
01:39:51,685 --> 01:39:53,729
The legacy of the movies
is, I suspect,
2145
01:39:53,812 --> 01:39:55,606
that my children's generation
2146
01:39:55,689 --> 01:39:58,191
will show them
to their children.
2147
01:39:58,275 --> 01:40:01,194
So you could be watching it
in 50 years' time, easy.
2148
01:40:02,279 --> 01:40:05,282
I'll not be here, sadly, but...
2149
01:40:05,991 --> 01:40:08,785
Don't you think on it
for one minute.
2150
01:40:08,869 --> 01:40:11,747
But Hagrid will, yes.
2151
01:40:13,206 --> 01:40:16,335
Kinda looking back
at it now,
2152
01:40:16,418 --> 01:40:17,836
just really fond memories.
2153
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:20,339
I think about it a lot.
It was a great time.
2154
01:40:20,422 --> 01:40:22,382
It really was, it was...
2155
01:40:22,466 --> 01:40:24,176
it was amazing.
2156
01:40:24,259 --> 01:40:28,889
Just the best,
most amazing experience.
2157
01:40:28,972 --> 01:40:32,392
And I can't
really explain to you...
2158
01:40:32,476 --> 01:40:34,686
like, they're such good people.
2159
01:40:34,770 --> 01:40:37,147
They were so kind, and...
2160
01:40:37,230 --> 01:40:40,400
they both took the
responsibility very seriously.
2161
01:40:40,484 --> 01:40:44,446
And I appreciated that so much.
2162
01:40:44,529 --> 01:40:45,864
It really is like family.
2163
01:40:45,948 --> 01:40:48,784
We're just
so intrinsically linked.
2164
01:40:49,952 --> 01:40:51,995
They're very important
people to me.
2165
01:40:52,913 --> 01:40:55,165
The crew on these films
were unbelievable.
2166
01:40:55,248 --> 01:40:58,877
There are people
on these films that are...
2167
01:40:58,961 --> 01:41:03,757
are foundational to who I am...
2168
01:41:06,259 --> 01:41:09,513
As a person and an actor.
2169
01:41:09,596 --> 01:41:11,515
I feel so lucky
to be where I am
2170
01:41:11,598 --> 01:41:13,267
and to have the life
that I have
2171
01:41:13,350 --> 01:41:16,061
and be able to work with
the people I work with now,
2172
01:41:16,144 --> 01:41:20,232
but none of it is possible
without this.
2173
01:41:20,315 --> 01:41:24,778
So yeah, it was... it was very...
2174
01:41:24,861 --> 01:41:26,822
it was a very good ten years.
2175
01:41:30,450 --> 01:41:33,578
Expecto Patronum.
2176
01:41:44,881 --> 01:41:47,676
After all this time?
2177
01:41:47,759 --> 01:41:49,803
Always.