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- It was crazy.
I had to sweep the whole house.
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I'm like, what the [bleep]?
- I come in there.
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He's like, are you guys
all animals?
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[laughter]
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- Well, we were together
when he committed suicide.
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I mean, it really took it
out of me, you know?
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I was 20 or 21.
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- Are you gonna say excuse me?
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- That looked
like a bump to me.
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- Bumped or not,
you don't spit.
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- I'm not doing this.
I'm not feeding this bitch.
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- Hey, me and my mom
are gonna leave.
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- Ryan, what is your vision
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for a healthy co-parenting
relationship with Maci?
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- I'd just like to be able
to see him, really.
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Hell, I just miss him.
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- ♪ We run together ♪
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♪ They're my family ♪
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- Do you believe you're
in a place to commit
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to being more consistent?
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- Yeah, if I don't have to deal
with everything else
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that I've had to in the past.
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- What's the everything else?
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- Just everyone else
in the way.
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- OK.
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Maci,
what was going on with you
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when you were hearing
all of that?
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- I just looked at him,
and I could see the pain.
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And honestly, I felt like
I was staring at Bentley.
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I feel--
it's obviously bittersweet.
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But I really appreciate
the vulnerability,
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and the ownership,
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and where he maybe
kind of came up short
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or something that he
could have done differently.
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And then everything
he was committing to
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just felt like, little by
little, a breath of fresh air
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because it would
absolutely make
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Bentley's heart so whole
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because, Ryan, there's a part
of Bentley that is hurting.
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But he loves you so much.
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And there is only one person
that can help that hurt.
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And it's you.
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He wants a relationship with
you more than anything else.
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- Ryan, can you commit
to be consistent?
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- I mean, I don't--
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hell, I don't even know what
he's got going on anymore.
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I don't think Bentley
and I even have
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a real relationship anymore.
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But, I mean,
if it's picking him up
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at a certain time or whatever.
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- Can you commit
to FaceTiming him once a week
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just to check in and say,
"Hey, bud"?
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- Yeah, if he wants that.
- Mm-hmm.
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Well, you're his daddy.
He wants it all.
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He wants all the smoke,
trust me.
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He wants all the smoke.
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[laughs]
OK?
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Maci, what do you think
you can do to help
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this co-parenting relationship
become healthy?
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- I think, obviously, one
of them is making sure that
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I'm keeping Ryan
all the way in the loop
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as it pertains to anything
Bentley has going on
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so that he has the option
to support him and be there.
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And I think,
just from our previous attempts
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at co-parenting,
one of the things
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that really always
kind of ended it
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before it could
really start was,
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we had trouble communicating
with each other respectfully.
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- No, I agree.
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I mean, I've said some things
that were hateful.
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- Yeah,
did you want to apologize
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about the things
that were hateful?
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You don't have to name them.
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- Well, yeah, for sure,
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because I wasn't
appreciating it, you know.
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So yes, I'm sorry for that.
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- Thank you.
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I've said many things
to you that were hurtful,
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and disrespectful,
and just with blatant lack
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of regard for your feelings.
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And I also want to apologize
for not putting in more
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of an effort to understand
the battles you were fighting
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and the struggles
you were going through.
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- That's so good.
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- I should have treated you
more like a human being.
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And if I could go back
and do it different,
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I definitely would.
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But I'm gonna do it
different moving forward.
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And I'm sorry.
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There is one thing.
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- Wait, so I'm gonna--
is it OK if I'm gonna
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come back over here?
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- Yeah.
- OK?
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Because I think
this was so good.
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Anything that we left out?
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- Well, one thing
I was thinking--
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I would like to try our best
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to do this co-parenting
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just between the two
of us and then,
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as we feel comfortable
or confident
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in bringing others into it,
if that's OK.
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- Yeah.
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- I'm so proud of you both.
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I'm so, so, so,
so proud of you both.
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Thank you.
- Thank you.
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- Yeah, well,
let's bring Jen back out here.
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[soft music]
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- Look at that smile.
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- Oh.
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♪ ♪
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- Yeah, yeah.
- Mm.
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- I love you.
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- I can't with this.
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Oh, man.
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This is emotional.
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How did you feel watching
Ryan open up the way he did?
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- I'm very happy that he did
because he's not one
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to show a lot of emotion.
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I'm very, very proud of him.
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- Me too.
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- He has the best heart.
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He has a heart like Bentley.
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He just doesn't always show it.
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- You've been the co-parent
grandma bear the whole time.
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- Mm-hmm.
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- What do you think
could be added?
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- I would love to step back,
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and I would love
for the two of them to talk
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and work things out
co-parenting.
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I know Ryan needs that.
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He needs to feel like
he is special in Bentley's life
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as his dad.
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- Yeah.
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- I mean, I'd just like to
spend time with him one on one
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without having
to go to Mom's house.
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- Bentley would love that
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and being able to do stuff
just you and him.
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- Jen, did you think
we would ever see this day?
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- Oh, I knew it was possible.
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I just didn't know when.
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- I'm so happy
for everyone right now.
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Coach B, thank you
for helping them get to a place
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that they wanted to get to.
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- Yeah.
- Amazing.
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It's Ashley's turn
on the couch up next.
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- You guys!
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[upbeat rock music]
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♪ ♪
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- Tonight, on "Teen Mom Family
Reunion: The Aftermath"...
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- Everybody is like
their mom's mini-me.
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- Agh!
- April--
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- I mean that
in the best way possible.
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[laughter]
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- I don't like her.
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I don't like anything
about that bitch.
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- I guess I could have took
the high road and walked away,
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but I'm not Michelle Obama.
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I'm Tea.
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- She's about ready
to pass out.
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- Can we get a medic out here?
- What's wrong?
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- Can we call a medic?
A medic.
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[upbeat electronic music]
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- Welcome back to
"Teen Mom Family Reunion:
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The Aftermath."
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I'm now here with Ashley,
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her mother, Tea,
and Coach B.
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First of all, Ashley,
I want to just ask you,
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how have you--how's everything
been going as far as, like,
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with your pregnancy
and all that stuff?
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How are you,
before we dig into anything.
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- I'm OK.
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I'm sad to say
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we actually had a miscarriage.
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So there's--
- Wait.
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- Not--
- You had a miscarriage?
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- Yeah, so we won't be--
- I'm sorry.
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- Having a little one,
but I am--
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- Oh, I'm so sorry.
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- Thank you, Nessa.
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- How are you feeling
about that, though?
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Because that's a lot to carry.
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- I don't know.
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I'm still kind of,
like, you know,
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trying to get back to myself.
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- Are you getting
help for that, though,
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Ashley, as far as,
like, the grieving
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of the miscarriage?
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Because that's not something
easy to experience
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nor something
that goes away like that.
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- I know I should be.
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But I am the kind of person
that just kind of, like,
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steamrolls over things.
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I think we all know this.
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I'm not a "sit in your emotions
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type of person.
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- But I do want you to get help
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with grieving
of the miscarriage.
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Even your emotions
that you suppressed when Bar
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was in jail
and you were pregnant,
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you need to be able
to have a place that's safe
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that you can unload
and then get in contact
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with what you're feeling and
where to put those emotions.
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- Can you commit to at least
attempting to do that?
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- Yeah.
- OK.
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- I can.
- Tea, hold her accountable.
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- OK, I will.
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I will.
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- From my understanding,
in order for you guys
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to come out here,
there was an agreement
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that you just didn't want to be
on stage with the other moms.
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- I just didn't want
to be blindsided
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by no bull[bleep].
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I just feel like sometimes
things are made up or gassed up
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so there appears to be, like,
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a problem when really,
there's not.
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- The fight did happen.
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So where are you
with that at this point?
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- Oh, I'm over it.
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I was over it
as soon as I left Oregon,
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really, to be honest.
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- Tea, how about for you?
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- I'm traumatized.
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I went into an environment,
like, open,
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not really understanding
all the dynamics.
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For me, this was like
I had told April.
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You know, I was expecting
to glean a lot from the mothers
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that were there,
so I was kind of just, like,
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sitting back,
trying to observe.
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I'm the new one in the group.
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So that's where I was with it.
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- What happened
to cause all of this?
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What is the root of the issue?
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- There was just too much
disrespect taking place.
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And I just didn't
understand why
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it was all of a sudden
turned on that night,
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after we had had that
long, drawn emotional day
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in the mud with Coach B.
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Everything was OK.
Everybody did their thing.
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Then, boom,
all of a sudden, at dinner,
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there's a problem to be served.
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- Now, obviously,
the fight that happened
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is a big part of this season.
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There is a clip.
Do you want to see it?
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- Yeah, I don't--
that [bleep] was a blur.
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- Tea, you OK to watch it?
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Let's go ahead and roll it.
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[tense music]
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- What's the problem, Roxanne?
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- The problem is
that your daughter
256
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inserted herself in a situation
that she--
257
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- OK, no, listen.
258
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- Had no business
inserting herself in.
259
00:10:53,387 --> 00:10:55,754
No, my daughter would never
talk to any mother
260
00:10:55,822 --> 00:10:59,090
in this [bleep] table the way
your daughter speaks to me.
261
00:10:59,159 --> 00:11:00,859
- Well, Roxanne--
- I don't want to hear it.
262
00:11:00,927 --> 00:11:02,794
You have nothing to say
to me, Tea.
263
00:11:02,863 --> 00:11:04,496
- I don't give a [bleep],
bitch!
264
00:11:04,564 --> 00:11:06,798
- Hold on.
- I don't give a [bleep]!
265
00:11:06,867 --> 00:11:08,266
- No, you--
- I don't give a [bleep]!
266
00:11:08,368 --> 00:11:10,068
I don't give a [bleep]!
267
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♪ ♪
268
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- Are you gonna say excuse me?
269
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- Stop.
Stop being so dramatic.
270
00:11:15,308 --> 00:11:17,442
- You bump me, I'ma grab
your mother[bleep] ass.
271
00:11:17,511 --> 00:11:18,443
- Hey, hey, hey.
Come on.
272
00:11:18,512 --> 00:11:19,744
- I didn't bump you.
273
00:11:19,813 --> 00:11:21,112
- You did.
- No.
274
00:11:21,181 --> 00:11:22,447
- You did, [bleep].
275
00:11:22,516 --> 00:11:23,848
- You're not your mother.
You don't know.
276
00:11:23,917 --> 00:11:25,116
- No--
- [bleep].
277
00:11:25,185 --> 00:11:26,618
- Because if y'all want to go,
we really can.
278
00:11:26,687 --> 00:11:27,986
We really can.
- Let's go.
279
00:11:28,055 --> 00:11:29,020
- Well, then, we can.
Let's go.
280
00:11:29,089 --> 00:11:30,188
- We really can.
281
00:11:30,257 --> 00:11:31,556
- Let's go because they
don't want that.
282
00:11:31,625 --> 00:11:32,557
Let's go.
- We really can.
283
00:11:32,626 --> 00:11:34,025
- Come on.
We have to go.
284
00:11:34,094 --> 00:11:35,126
- Why are you up there?
285
00:11:35,195 --> 00:11:37,395
Get down, baby.
Get down.
286
00:11:37,464 --> 00:11:39,497
- No, so I could kick you in
your [bleep] throat.
287
00:11:39,566 --> 00:11:40,732
- 'Cause you can't fight?
- No.
288
00:11:40,801 --> 00:11:42,033
[bleep] you, bitch.
- 'Cause you can't fight?
289
00:11:42,102 --> 00:11:43,001
- [bleep] you.
- Get down.
290
00:11:43,070 --> 00:11:45,003
- [bleep] my [bleep], Ash.
291
00:11:45,072 --> 00:11:47,272
[dramatic music]
292
00:11:47,374 --> 00:11:48,440
- Bitch!
293
00:11:48,508 --> 00:11:49,941
[all yelling]
294
00:11:50,010 --> 00:11:52,577
- Come on, bitch.
Come on, bitch.
295
00:11:52,646 --> 00:11:54,479
Come on, bitch!
- [bleep] you!
296
00:11:54,548 --> 00:11:56,247
- Oh, you want to go?
297
00:11:56,316 --> 00:11:57,816
You want to go, bitch?
298
00:11:57,884 --> 00:12:00,018
- [bleep] you.
- [bleep] you.
299
00:12:02,255 --> 00:12:03,321
- [sighs]
300
00:12:03,423 --> 00:12:04,856
- What are you
thinking and feeling
301
00:12:04,925 --> 00:12:07,392
when you're watching that?
302
00:12:07,461 --> 00:12:08,760
- I'm not bothered, you know?
303
00:12:08,829 --> 00:12:12,731
I think--is that the person
that I want to be?
304
00:12:12,799 --> 00:12:14,032
Absolutely not.
305
00:12:14,101 --> 00:12:15,800
It's not a lot of people
that can tell you
306
00:12:15,869 --> 00:12:17,268
them type of stories about me.
307
00:12:17,337 --> 00:12:20,538
So when I get out of character,
308
00:12:20,607 --> 00:12:22,540
trust me, it's for a reason.
309
00:12:22,609 --> 00:12:27,946
And how I feel is Roxy
and my mom went back and forth.
310
00:12:28,014 --> 00:12:30,215
I didn't--more than once.
311
00:12:30,283 --> 00:12:31,449
I didn't get in it
312
00:12:31,518 --> 00:12:34,119
because I would never try
to go for Roxy.
313
00:12:34,187 --> 00:12:36,521
She's not my equal.
314
00:12:36,590 --> 00:12:39,958
As soon as Briana started
trying to check my mom,
315
00:12:40,026 --> 00:12:41,593
that was not right to me.
316
00:12:41,661 --> 00:12:43,661
And that put me
in a protective mode.
317
00:12:43,730 --> 00:12:45,663
Like, as you can see,
I was like, hey,
318
00:12:45,732 --> 00:12:46,898
we ain't gonna do all that.
319
00:12:46,967 --> 00:12:48,032
We ain't gonna do all that.
320
00:12:48,101 --> 00:12:50,135
But why are you sitting
right behind me,
321
00:12:50,203 --> 00:12:51,536
talking, talking, talking,
322
00:12:51,605 --> 00:12:53,338
and your mama talking,
talking, talking?
323
00:12:53,406 --> 00:12:55,807
It's making me think that
we about to get to thumpin'.
324
00:12:55,876 --> 00:12:58,910
So Roxy had already
grabbed the chair.
325
00:12:58,979 --> 00:13:00,378
She'd already been
yelling, already--
326
00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:01,713
now you bumping.
327
00:13:01,782 --> 00:13:03,715
Like, how much further
are you guys gonna go?
328
00:13:03,784 --> 00:13:05,884
- And, Tea, I was watching you.
329
00:13:05,952 --> 00:13:09,120
You looked like you were
revisiting, like, the anger
330
00:13:09,189 --> 00:13:10,722
that you were feeling there.
331
00:13:10,791 --> 00:13:14,626
- I was appalled, first of all,
332
00:13:14,694 --> 00:13:18,196
to have a day with you
333
00:13:18,265 --> 00:13:22,066
and to be in that mode
of healing...
334
00:13:22,135 --> 00:13:23,301
- Right.
335
00:13:23,370 --> 00:13:25,570
- And to be expressing that
at the table
336
00:13:25,639 --> 00:13:31,476
and to be sabotaged,
where I was speaking healing,
337
00:13:31,545 --> 00:13:36,915
and she was agitating
the situation.
338
00:13:36,983 --> 00:13:40,051
And I asked Roxy
if she wanted to speak.
339
00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,721
She went on and she spoke,
said whatever she had to say,
340
00:13:43,790 --> 00:13:45,757
and I waited peacefully.
341
00:13:45,826 --> 00:13:48,793
But soon as I began to speak,
she was just like,
342
00:13:48,862 --> 00:13:49,961
"I don't want to hear it."
343
00:13:50,030 --> 00:13:52,730
And it's like--
that was the first thing.
344
00:13:52,799 --> 00:13:56,501
And then it escalated
to her picking up a chair,
345
00:13:56,570 --> 00:13:58,069
all of these other things.
346
00:13:58,138 --> 00:13:59,671
Now, mind you, at the hotel,
347
00:13:59,739 --> 00:14:02,173
it had already been
dirty looks.
348
00:14:02,242 --> 00:14:04,075
This had been building.
349
00:14:04,144 --> 00:14:05,176
OK?
350
00:14:05,245 --> 00:14:06,911
So now we're in the kitchen.
351
00:14:06,980 --> 00:14:09,747
We go in to get some more wine,
and she's there.
352
00:14:09,816 --> 00:14:11,516
But I'm not thinking
twice about it.
353
00:14:11,585 --> 00:14:15,620
It's like, we old enough
to know to keep our distance.
354
00:14:15,689 --> 00:14:17,889
But then she bumps me again.
355
00:14:17,958 --> 00:14:19,691
And then that's
when I'm like, OK.
356
00:14:19,759 --> 00:14:21,993
I got to call her on this,
357
00:14:22,062 --> 00:14:24,596
or she gon' be
forever my bully.
358
00:14:24,664 --> 00:14:28,266
So at that moment, it's like,
"Yo, you could apologize."
359
00:14:28,335 --> 00:14:29,801
"Well,
I'm not gonna apologize."
360
00:14:29,870 --> 00:14:31,402
OK.
361
00:14:31,471 --> 00:14:33,004
Well, then,
only thing I can tell you is--
362
00:14:33,073 --> 00:14:34,272
- That's what made
me feel like--
363
00:14:34,341 --> 00:14:35,907
- If you bump me again--
- They wanted to fight.
364
00:14:35,976 --> 00:14:38,109
- I'm gon' have
to snatch you up.
365
00:14:38,178 --> 00:14:39,944
- There's no reason,
as a grown woman,
366
00:14:40,013 --> 00:14:41,679
why you can't just say,
"Oh, my bad.
367
00:14:41,748 --> 00:14:42,947
I didn't mean to bump you,
girl, my bad."
368
00:14:43,016 --> 00:14:44,215
- Right.
369
00:14:44,284 --> 00:14:45,416
- Even if you said,
"Girl, I didn't even mean
370
00:14:45,485 --> 00:14:46,684
to bump you, my bad,"
with a attitude.
371
00:14:46,753 --> 00:14:49,721
But when you say,
"I'm not gonna say excuse me,"
372
00:14:49,789 --> 00:14:51,823
this is my mom.
373
00:14:51,892 --> 00:14:55,326
You're going to say
excuse me, period.
374
00:14:55,395 --> 00:14:57,662
- I mean, I guess I could
have took the high road
375
00:14:57,731 --> 00:15:00,031
and walked away,
but I'm not Michelle Obama.
376
00:15:00,100 --> 00:15:02,133
I'm Tea.
You know what I'm saying?
377
00:15:02,202 --> 00:15:04,335
If you want to take it low,
I can take it low too.
378
00:15:04,404 --> 00:15:06,638
I know how to limbo,
you know what I'm saying?
379
00:15:06,706 --> 00:15:10,508
So I believe that it was
an extremely unfortunate event.
380
00:15:10,610 --> 00:15:12,377
I hate that it happened,
381
00:15:12,445 --> 00:15:14,746
and especially
for the world to see.
382
00:15:14,814 --> 00:15:17,949
But at the end of the day,
it was straight disrespect
383
00:15:18,018 --> 00:15:21,386
and violation to my whole soul.
384
00:15:21,454 --> 00:15:22,620
- Let's pause right here,
385
00:15:22,689 --> 00:15:24,322
and we'll be back
right after this.
386
00:15:24,391 --> 00:15:27,592
♪ ♪
387
00:15:29,029 --> 00:15:30,728
[tense music]
388
00:15:30,797 --> 00:15:32,764
- Welcome back to
"Teen Mom Family Reunion:
389
00:15:32,832 --> 00:15:33,932
The Aftermath."
390
00:15:34,034 --> 00:15:36,034
We're still here
with Ashley and Tea.
391
00:15:36,102 --> 00:15:38,770
Now, from my understanding,
the frustration,
392
00:15:38,838 --> 00:15:43,107
from what I was able to gather,
is that, apparently,
393
00:15:43,176 --> 00:15:44,642
you have said
some things online--
394
00:15:44,711 --> 00:15:46,611
- Let me--
let's get this straight.
395
00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:51,516
Roxy is the one who went online
and said some stuff.
396
00:15:51,584 --> 00:15:54,352
I was tagged by the fan base,
397
00:15:54,421 --> 00:15:58,122
who tagged me into Roxy
having a whole little meltdown
398
00:15:58,191 --> 00:15:59,624
about Ashley.
399
00:15:59,693 --> 00:16:03,127
I then addressed her and said,
"Who is Roxanne?
400
00:16:03,196 --> 00:16:05,930
"And whoever this Roxanne is,
her dirty-ass daughter..."
401
00:16:05,999 --> 00:16:09,133
whatever I said,
because at that point,
402
00:16:09,202 --> 00:16:10,768
you were talking
about my daughter.
403
00:16:10,837 --> 00:16:12,003
I don't know you, lady.
404
00:16:12,072 --> 00:16:13,638
I didn't even know
Roxanne until then.
405
00:16:13,707 --> 00:16:16,708
But you crazy and out
of your mind if you think
406
00:16:16,776 --> 00:16:18,810
that you can speak
on somebody else's child,
407
00:16:18,878 --> 00:16:21,579
and then somebody is not gonna
say something about yours.
408
00:16:21,648 --> 00:16:24,782
So, Roxy, you started it.
409
00:16:24,851 --> 00:16:27,218
- Now, Ashley,
where is the issue stemming
410
00:16:27,287 --> 00:16:28,753
between you and Briana?
411
00:16:28,822 --> 00:16:31,189
- I just don't like
that dirty-[bleep] bitch.
412
00:16:31,257 --> 00:16:32,357
She's a snake.
413
00:16:32,425 --> 00:16:33,658
She's messy.
414
00:16:33,727 --> 00:16:37,128
She's a fake-ass,
selective, wannabe bully.
415
00:16:37,197 --> 00:16:39,530
Oh, she's a follower.
I don't like her.
416
00:16:39,599 --> 00:16:41,899
I don't like anything
about that bitch.
417
00:16:42,936 --> 00:16:45,336
- She said she had
no problem with you--
418
00:16:45,405 --> 00:16:46,804
- Oh--
- Before all this.
419
00:16:46,873 --> 00:16:49,107
So just maybe--
- Who'd she say that to, Jesus?
420
00:16:49,175 --> 00:16:50,942
- Was that for the camera?
- Wait, wait.
421
00:16:51,011 --> 00:16:53,011
- You said she had no problem
with Ashley prior to this?
422
00:16:53,079 --> 00:16:54,445
- Yeah, she had no
problem with her--
423
00:16:54,514 --> 00:16:55,580
- Prior to the incident.
- Yeah.
424
00:16:55,648 --> 00:16:57,115
We're talking about prior
to the incident--
425
00:16:57,183 --> 00:16:58,649
- Prior to the incident, yes.
- No, that's not true.
426
00:16:58,718 --> 00:17:00,251
Let's tell it what it is.
427
00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:04,722
Back in the day, her baby daddy
gave a statement to a blog,
428
00:17:04,791 --> 00:17:07,325
or he tweeted, or something--
this is with all respect
429
00:17:07,394 --> 00:17:08,926
to Devoin because
he's got a girl now,
430
00:17:08,995 --> 00:17:10,561
and I love them both.
431
00:17:10,630 --> 00:17:13,364
But back in the day,
when he was single,
432
00:17:13,433 --> 00:17:15,133
he says something
along the lines of,
433
00:17:15,201 --> 00:17:16,801
oh, she's bad,
or, she's beautiful--
434
00:17:16,870 --> 00:17:17,802
- Who's bad?
- To me.
435
00:17:17,871 --> 00:17:19,137
- About you, OK.
- Yes.
436
00:17:19,205 --> 00:17:20,972
And it was picked up,
and it was retweeted.
437
00:17:21,041 --> 00:17:23,007
And I seen some funny [bleep]
that she said.
438
00:17:23,076 --> 00:17:24,709
I don't remember
verbatim what it was.
439
00:17:24,778 --> 00:17:26,778
But I seen something.
440
00:17:26,846 --> 00:17:29,147
And that's what kicked it off.
441
00:17:29,215 --> 00:17:31,949
People like to throw rocks
and hide their hands.
442
00:17:32,018 --> 00:17:34,552
And they bank on the fact
that I'm not gonna
443
00:17:34,621 --> 00:17:35,853
call it to the forefront.
444
00:17:35,922 --> 00:17:37,555
No, bitch, I seen it.
445
00:17:37,624 --> 00:17:39,157
I have a problem with it.
446
00:17:39,225 --> 00:17:41,059
And I want to address it.
447
00:17:41,127 --> 00:17:43,294
And that's what they're
hoping I don't do,
448
00:17:43,363 --> 00:17:45,396
because every time I do, it's,
"Oh, I don't have a problem.
449
00:17:45,465 --> 00:17:47,398
I don't know where
this friction came from."
450
00:17:47,467 --> 00:17:50,968
- Is this something
that maybe can get cleared up?
451
00:17:51,037 --> 00:17:53,471
- No, I'll never deal
with that bitch in my life.
452
00:17:53,540 --> 00:17:55,540
- What does
the healing look like?
453
00:17:55,608 --> 00:17:57,241
Is it coexisting for you two?
454
00:17:57,310 --> 00:17:58,910
- It's definitely coexisting.
455
00:17:58,978 --> 00:18:00,978
- But then what happens
when there is a look
456
00:18:01,047 --> 00:18:03,181
that's exchanged or--
457
00:18:03,249 --> 00:18:05,817
- Just the same way we spent
all those days at "TMFR."
458
00:18:05,885 --> 00:18:07,118
And there was--
- There was a lot of--
459
00:18:07,187 --> 00:18:08,453
- Funny [bleep] being said--
- Looks exchanged.
460
00:18:08,521 --> 00:18:09,887
- Looks exchanged,
[bleep] under the breath.
461
00:18:09,956 --> 00:18:10,888
I didn't address none of it.
462
00:18:10,957 --> 00:18:12,824
I don't have to, you know,
463
00:18:12,892 --> 00:18:15,226
always be the big, bad wolf
blowing down somebody's door.
464
00:18:15,295 --> 00:18:16,527
I can chill.
465
00:18:16,596 --> 00:18:21,032
- If an apology was something
that was needed
466
00:18:21,101 --> 00:18:23,868
for the process of healing
467
00:18:23,937 --> 00:18:26,471
to move forward
into even just coexisting--
468
00:18:26,539 --> 00:18:27,772
- Mm-hmm.
469
00:18:27,841 --> 00:18:31,008
- Would that be something
y'all would be open to?
470
00:18:31,077 --> 00:18:33,277
both: No.
- Not giving or receiving?
471
00:18:33,346 --> 00:18:34,545
- Because I only
apologize for things
472
00:18:34,614 --> 00:18:36,214
that I truly feel
remorseful for.
473
00:18:36,282 --> 00:18:37,448
- And--
- You know?
474
00:18:37,517 --> 00:18:39,083
- I just want to piggyback
on that to say,
475
00:18:39,185 --> 00:18:41,385
I won't be apologizing
to anyone
476
00:18:41,454 --> 00:18:44,555
because I apologized
to everybody that night.
477
00:18:44,624 --> 00:18:47,625
I tried to really make
peace and just say,
478
00:18:47,694 --> 00:18:50,995
you know, an apology doesn't
hurt me none, you know?
479
00:18:51,064 --> 00:18:52,363
And so I gave it.
480
00:18:52,432 --> 00:18:53,998
But I kind of feel like
I just want
481
00:18:54,067 --> 00:18:56,400
my apology back at this point.
482
00:18:56,469 --> 00:18:59,036
- But if a conversation
needs to be had,
483
00:18:59,105 --> 00:19:03,774
right, with you, Ashley,
are you and Tea with the group?
484
00:19:03,843 --> 00:19:05,977
Because majority of them--
485
00:19:06,045 --> 00:19:07,478
you know,
and it's not a secret--
486
00:19:07,547 --> 00:19:12,016
majority of them feel like you
and Tea were in the wrong.
487
00:19:12,085 --> 00:19:13,317
- That's so good for them.
488
00:19:13,386 --> 00:19:15,386
- But so I'm saying,
with that being said,
489
00:19:15,455 --> 00:19:17,088
right,
if there was a conversation,
490
00:19:17,157 --> 00:19:18,256
what would that look like?
491
00:19:18,324 --> 00:19:19,257
- If that was the way
I was treated,
492
00:19:19,325 --> 00:19:20,258
and they felt that I was wrong,
493
00:19:20,326 --> 00:19:21,325
then these are some bitches
494
00:19:21,394 --> 00:19:22,493
I don't want
to be friends with.
495
00:19:22,562 --> 00:19:25,129
- Just as they're
condemning me,
496
00:19:25,231 --> 00:19:27,098
they would all have
to condemn Briana
497
00:19:27,167 --> 00:19:28,799
for jumping
on the countertop saying
498
00:19:28,868 --> 00:19:31,936
she was gonna kick me in
my face or condemn Roxy for--
499
00:19:32,005 --> 00:19:32,904
- Now, who said--
- Picking up a chair--
500
00:19:32,972 --> 00:19:34,272
- That was wrong?
501
00:19:34,340 --> 00:19:35,907
- For picking up a chair
and acting like she
502
00:19:35,975 --> 00:19:37,642
was gonna throw it at my mom.
503
00:19:37,710 --> 00:19:39,076
See,
that's the double standard.
504
00:19:39,145 --> 00:19:40,178
- Right.
505
00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:41,679
- I don't see
the same accountability.
506
00:19:41,748 --> 00:19:42,947
- Mm-hmm.
507
00:19:43,016 --> 00:19:45,516
- And that's that clique,
clique, gang-up [bleep].
508
00:19:45,585 --> 00:19:47,485
And that's what
I don't [bleep] with.
509
00:19:47,554 --> 00:19:48,953
I don't owe them
a conversation.
510
00:19:49,022 --> 00:19:51,055
I don't owe them
a mother[bleep] breath.
511
00:19:51,124 --> 00:19:53,724
- I totally-- yeah, I'm
not in disagreeance with--
512
00:19:53,793 --> 00:19:54,926
- Yeah.
- Anything, and I think--
513
00:19:54,994 --> 00:19:56,093
- No.
514
00:19:56,162 --> 00:19:57,528
- That, again,
you both have every right
515
00:19:57,597 --> 00:19:58,963
to feel the way you feel.
516
00:19:59,032 --> 00:20:01,465
You both have totally
different experiences
517
00:20:01,534 --> 00:20:03,401
of the same situation.
518
00:20:03,469 --> 00:20:05,236
And you're not wrong
for saying, again,
519
00:20:05,305 --> 00:20:07,772
no, some things you just
can't come back from.
520
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,509
Can I just offer that you do
not negate your voice,
521
00:20:11,578 --> 00:20:14,278
you do not negate what you
feel about this at all,
522
00:20:14,347 --> 00:20:17,348
that you think about what
does common ground look like.
523
00:20:17,417 --> 00:20:18,583
I'm not saying
you got to move on it.
524
00:20:18,651 --> 00:20:19,650
We don't need no movement.
525
00:20:19,719 --> 00:20:22,620
But just process
what that looks like
526
00:20:22,689 --> 00:20:25,723
just in case that conversation
does come up.
527
00:20:25,792 --> 00:20:27,258
- Think about it.
528
00:20:27,327 --> 00:20:30,628
I appreciate you both being
so honest and open right now.
529
00:20:30,697 --> 00:20:32,430
And, Coach B, as always,
thank you for sharing your--
530
00:20:32,498 --> 00:20:33,864
- Yeah, totally.
- Words of wisdom.
531
00:20:33,933 --> 00:20:35,566
Up next, we'll find
out what Cheyenne
532
00:20:35,635 --> 00:20:38,069
and Zach learned
from Zach's first-ever session
533
00:20:38,137 --> 00:20:39,203
with Coach B.
534
00:20:39,305 --> 00:20:41,872
[upbeat music]
535
00:20:41,941 --> 00:20:43,941
[applause]
536
00:20:45,144 --> 00:20:47,311
- Show the ring off, Zach.
Show it off.
537
00:20:48,581 --> 00:20:49,914
- Oh.
- What's wrong?
538
00:20:49,983 --> 00:20:51,148
- Oh, my gosh.
539
00:20:51,217 --> 00:20:53,184
- I don't know what's wrong.
- Is she OK?
540
00:20:54,587 --> 00:20:57,488
[upbeat music]
541
00:20:57,557 --> 00:20:59,390
- Welcome back to
"Teen Mom Family Reunion:
542
00:20:59,459 --> 00:21:00,391
The Aftermath."
543
00:21:00,460 --> 00:21:01,859
Sitting with me
now is Cheyenne,
544
00:21:01,928 --> 00:21:04,228
and let's also welcome
her husband, Zach.
545
00:21:04,297 --> 00:21:05,730
- Husband.
546
00:21:05,798 --> 00:21:07,231
He a whole-ass husband.
547
00:21:07,300 --> 00:21:08,499
- [laughs]
- We like it.
548
00:21:08,601 --> 00:21:09,934
Show the ring off, Zach.
549
00:21:10,003 --> 00:21:12,136
Show it off.
Let's take a moment right now.
550
00:21:12,205 --> 00:21:13,304
- Bling-bling.
551
00:21:13,373 --> 00:21:15,072
- Give the ring
a round of applause.
552
00:21:15,141 --> 00:21:16,941
- Oh, shut up, guys.
- We like it.
553
00:21:17,010 --> 00:21:17,942
- No, she did.
- Wait.
554
00:21:18,011 --> 00:21:19,176
- She did great.
555
00:21:19,245 --> 00:21:20,177
- Well, Chey,
talk to me a little bit.
556
00:21:20,246 --> 00:21:21,379
What resonated
with you the most
557
00:21:21,447 --> 00:21:23,347
from your experience
at "Family Reunion."
558
00:21:23,416 --> 00:21:25,249
- I was nervous
to bring my mom.
559
00:21:25,318 --> 00:21:27,151
We have the same face.
560
00:21:27,220 --> 00:21:28,819
These girls know me.
561
00:21:28,888 --> 00:21:31,956
So they know that, like,
my face is just still.
562
00:21:32,025 --> 00:21:33,090
Like, it's just dry.
563
00:21:33,159 --> 00:21:34,191
It's a bitch face.
564
00:21:34,260 --> 00:21:35,259
But they know me.
565
00:21:35,328 --> 00:21:36,294
- That's what I
say all the time.
566
00:21:36,362 --> 00:21:37,328
- So they've never met.
567
00:21:37,397 --> 00:21:38,729
She has the same face.
568
00:21:38,798 --> 00:21:40,665
So I didn't want
anyone to think,
569
00:21:40,733 --> 00:21:42,500
damn, Chey's mom is a bitch--
570
00:21:42,568 --> 00:21:44,702
like, you know, has, like,
resting bitch face too.
571
00:21:44,771 --> 00:21:46,170
So I was just nervous.
572
00:21:46,239 --> 00:21:48,039
And I feel like my mom
has the same pack of friends
573
00:21:48,107 --> 00:21:49,640
from, like, the sandbox.
574
00:21:49,709 --> 00:21:52,510
I've never really seen, like,
any new friends introduced.
575
00:21:52,578 --> 00:21:54,345
So I was nervous,
like, is my mom gonna
576
00:21:54,414 --> 00:21:56,047
remember how to make friends?
577
00:21:56,115 --> 00:22:01,552
So I was really excited
to see her branch out
578
00:22:01,621 --> 00:22:03,721
and, like, hang out
with the other moms
579
00:22:03,790 --> 00:22:05,323
and make connections.
580
00:22:05,391 --> 00:22:07,658
And I think that was kind
of like my favorite part
581
00:22:07,727 --> 00:22:10,328
besides my husband showing up.
582
00:22:10,396 --> 00:22:12,763
- Hey.
- All right, Mrs. Davis.
583
00:22:12,832 --> 00:22:14,832
- And, Zach,
this was your first session--
584
00:22:14,901 --> 00:22:16,367
- Yes, it was.
- Right, ever?
585
00:22:16,436 --> 00:22:17,802
And this happened with Coach B.
586
00:22:17,870 --> 00:22:19,236
- Yeah, I'm glad that I did it.
587
00:22:19,305 --> 00:22:22,006
I'm glad I had the chance
to sit down and meet with her.
588
00:22:22,075 --> 00:22:25,676
- Now, with Coach B,
she had mentioned that you tend
589
00:22:25,745 --> 00:22:27,712
to turn into Mama Bear,
590
00:22:27,780 --> 00:22:30,147
and Zach will turn into a
little boy,
591
00:22:30,216 --> 00:22:32,583
and that's the kind
of dynamic between you two.
592
00:22:32,652 --> 00:22:34,118
How did you take that,
how did you receive it,
593
00:22:34,187 --> 00:22:36,654
and what are you gonna
do with that information?
594
00:22:36,723 --> 00:22:39,790
- I didn't necessarily like it
because I didn't really agree.
595
00:22:39,859 --> 00:22:41,625
I felt like putting
those titles on it
596
00:22:41,728 --> 00:22:42,860
was a little demeaning to him,
597
00:22:42,929 --> 00:22:44,929
and I never viewed him
as a little boy.
598
00:22:44,997 --> 00:22:46,330
That's my man.
599
00:22:46,399 --> 00:22:47,865
That's how I view him.
600
00:22:47,934 --> 00:22:50,301
I think that I'm just
naturally a nurturing person
601
00:22:50,370 --> 00:22:52,269
and want to take care
of everybody around me,
602
00:22:52,338 --> 00:22:53,404
Zach included.
603
00:22:53,473 --> 00:22:55,373
But I know that that's
our relationship
604
00:22:55,441 --> 00:22:56,607
behind closed doors.
605
00:22:56,676 --> 00:22:58,609
So maybe,
to an outside eye looking in,
606
00:22:58,711 --> 00:23:00,311
that's what you
can take from it.
607
00:23:00,380 --> 00:23:02,279
But that's not
our relationship.
608
00:23:02,348 --> 00:23:03,514
- Yeah.
- Got it.
609
00:23:03,583 --> 00:23:07,218
- Did you notice
a difference with Zach?
610
00:23:07,286 --> 00:23:09,787
- Honestly, yeah,
because when she was saying it,
611
00:23:09,856 --> 00:23:11,122
I'm boiling.
612
00:23:11,190 --> 00:23:13,224
And he was, like,
all cool and calm.
613
00:23:13,292 --> 00:23:16,327
And I'm like,
"Get her, get her, get her.
614
00:23:16,396 --> 00:23:17,495
Do something."
615
00:23:17,563 --> 00:23:18,829
But he's, like,
coachable, I guess,
616
00:23:18,898 --> 00:23:19,964
and I'm un-coachable because--
617
00:23:20,032 --> 00:23:21,198
- Nah, it was--
618
00:23:21,267 --> 00:23:22,566
- I was like--
- That's the thing, though.
619
00:23:22,635 --> 00:23:23,934
- "Say it again."
No, I'm just kidding.
620
00:23:24,003 --> 00:23:25,269
[laughter]
621
00:23:25,338 --> 00:23:27,304
- Well, I want to hear
all about Cheyenne's mom's
622
00:23:27,373 --> 00:23:28,939
experience on "Family Reunion."
623
00:23:29,008 --> 00:23:31,475
So let's bring
Margaret down here.
624
00:23:31,544 --> 00:23:32,743
Come on down, Margaret.
625
00:23:32,812 --> 00:23:35,746
[cheers and applause]
626
00:23:35,815 --> 00:23:39,150
[upbeat music]
627
00:23:39,952 --> 00:23:41,585
Margaret, tell me,
how was your experience
628
00:23:41,654 --> 00:23:42,820
at "Family Reunion"?
629
00:23:42,889 --> 00:23:44,555
- I had a great experience.
630
00:23:44,624 --> 00:23:50,094
My goal was to understand
my daughter better
631
00:23:50,163 --> 00:23:53,097
and almost feel what she feels.
632
00:23:53,166 --> 00:23:55,166
I mean,
I'm a very protective mom.
633
00:23:55,234 --> 00:23:58,202
And I know
that she deals with a lot
634
00:23:58,271 --> 00:24:00,838
and goes through a lot
with the career path
635
00:24:00,907 --> 00:24:02,306
that she's chosen.
636
00:24:02,375 --> 00:24:04,608
So it gave me
a little insight into her
637
00:24:04,677 --> 00:24:07,511
and all these other beautiful
ladies and the moms.
638
00:24:07,580 --> 00:24:09,580
We need to support these girls.
639
00:24:09,649 --> 00:24:11,182
- Well said.
640
00:24:11,250 --> 00:24:13,951
Here's some unseen footage
from the unstuck activity.
641
00:24:14,020 --> 00:24:15,820
[soft music]
642
00:24:15,888 --> 00:24:17,021
- It's like Dad didn't--
643
00:24:17,089 --> 00:24:19,924
he was a great provider.
644
00:24:19,992 --> 00:24:21,125
He was a great father.
645
00:24:21,194 --> 00:24:22,359
I mean, he's still
a great provider.
646
00:24:22,428 --> 00:24:23,627
He's still a great father.
647
00:24:23,696 --> 00:24:25,729
But when it comes to,
like, the love aspect,
648
00:24:25,798 --> 00:24:28,165
like, when did you guys
hold hands,
649
00:24:28,234 --> 00:24:30,067
or did you guys kiss?
650
00:24:30,136 --> 00:24:32,870
Did he buy you flowers?
651
00:24:32,939 --> 00:24:34,171
Right?
652
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,773
- But that's why I left.
653
00:24:35,842 --> 00:24:38,142
And that's why I told them
I was leaving,
654
00:24:38,211 --> 00:24:40,411
because I wanted them to see
what love looked like.
655
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:41,745
- Right.
- Yeah.
656
00:24:41,814 --> 00:24:44,114
- OK, how did you feel
when Cheyenne expressed
657
00:24:44,183 --> 00:24:47,651
that she did not want
to have a loveless marriage,
658
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,920
something that she
saw you go through
659
00:24:49,989 --> 00:24:51,555
with your first husband?
660
00:24:51,624 --> 00:24:54,792
- Well, we did not--
we loved each other.
661
00:24:54,861 --> 00:24:57,628
But we didn't--
we got together young.
662
00:24:57,697 --> 00:24:59,697
So she didn't see
a lot of affection.
663
00:24:59,765 --> 00:25:03,467
But for some reason,
we just got stuck into a rut.
664
00:25:03,536 --> 00:25:06,136
And it wasn't shown.
665
00:25:06,205 --> 00:25:07,605
But the love was there.
666
00:25:07,673 --> 00:25:09,306
- And how did that
impact you, Chey?
667
00:25:09,375 --> 00:25:13,043
- I saw love
within my household growing up.
668
00:25:13,112 --> 00:25:14,778
It wasn't, like,
a cold household.
669
00:25:14,881 --> 00:25:18,148
But I didn't see,
like, a lot of affection.
670
00:25:18,217 --> 00:25:21,752
When my parents did divorce,
my mom was like, that's not--
671
00:25:21,854 --> 00:25:23,454
that should not be your norm.
672
00:25:23,523 --> 00:25:25,289
Like, I don't want that
to be your norm.
673
00:25:25,358 --> 00:25:28,192
I want someone
who is gonna hold your hand,
674
00:25:28,261 --> 00:25:32,029
and bring you flowers,
and slap your butt, like,
675
00:25:32,098 --> 00:25:33,197
you know, like--
676
00:25:33,266 --> 00:25:34,398
- Romance you.
677
00:25:34,467 --> 00:25:36,500
- Yeah, she's like,
you have to realize
678
00:25:36,569 --> 00:25:38,869
that your partner needs
to make love to you
679
00:25:38,938 --> 00:25:41,939
all day long, but not--
680
00:25:42,008 --> 00:25:45,175
not sex, but, like, mentally,
you know what I mean?
681
00:25:45,244 --> 00:25:47,278
Like, I look
for those things now.
682
00:25:47,346 --> 00:25:50,981
And I feel like that's
because I've listened to her,
683
00:25:51,050 --> 00:25:54,184
and I've seen what I loved
from my parents' marriage.
684
00:25:54,253 --> 00:25:56,620
And I try
to implement it in ours.
685
00:25:56,689 --> 00:26:00,357
- Why do you think Zach
and Chey's relationship
686
00:26:00,426 --> 00:26:01,692
is so much stronger?
687
00:26:01,761 --> 00:26:03,227
- They started off as friends.
688
00:26:03,296 --> 00:26:05,329
- Right.
- And that makes a difference.
689
00:26:05,398 --> 00:26:08,265
You won't do to your friend
what you'll do to your lover.
690
00:26:08,334 --> 00:26:09,733
I mean, there's a difference.
691
00:26:09,802 --> 00:26:12,369
And he's a very loyal friend.
692
00:26:12,438 --> 00:26:15,372
And it just blossomed.
693
00:26:15,441 --> 00:26:16,507
- That's amazing.
694
00:26:16,576 --> 00:26:18,042
- So--
- I love this.
695
00:26:18,110 --> 00:26:20,311
You all have a beautiful
family for sure.
696
00:26:20,379 --> 00:26:21,512
- Thank you.
697
00:26:21,581 --> 00:26:23,147
- Well, coming up,
we'll chat with Kiaya
698
00:26:23,215 --> 00:26:25,249
about what she learned
from the "Teen Mom" moms.
699
00:26:25,318 --> 00:26:26,350
We'll be right back.
700
00:26:26,419 --> 00:26:29,353
[upbeat music]
701
00:26:29,422 --> 00:26:31,155
♪ ♪
702
00:26:32,758 --> 00:26:34,224
- I don't really
have friends at home.
703
00:26:34,293 --> 00:26:37,728
So, like, I don't really have
too many people to confide in.
704
00:26:37,797 --> 00:26:40,965
- Well, we love you,
just everything about you.
705
00:26:42,201 --> 00:26:43,500
- Now you're trying
to out me right now.
706
00:26:43,569 --> 00:26:44,835
And there's so much [...]
that I could air about you,
707
00:26:44,937 --> 00:26:45,836
and that's pretty [...] up.
708
00:26:45,938 --> 00:26:47,237
- Go ahead.
709
00:26:47,306 --> 00:26:49,473
- OK.
- OK.
710
00:26:51,043 --> 00:26:53,978
[upbeat music]
711
00:26:54,046 --> 00:26:56,146
- We're back with
"Teen Mom Family Reunion:
712
00:26:56,215 --> 00:26:57,147
The Aftermath."
713
00:26:57,216 --> 00:26:58,382
We're now speaking with Kiaya
714
00:26:58,451 --> 00:26:59,950
and her mom, Tiffany.
715
00:27:01,354 --> 00:27:02,987
Nice to see the both of you.
716
00:27:03,055 --> 00:27:04,488
- Thank you for having us.
- Of course.
717
00:27:04,557 --> 00:27:05,956
- We're so excited
to be here, always.
718
00:27:06,058 --> 00:27:08,192
- OK, so, Kiaya,
what did you expect
719
00:27:08,260 --> 00:27:09,960
before you came to
"Family Reunion,"
720
00:27:10,029 --> 00:27:12,930
and how did it actually compare
to your experience?
721
00:27:12,999 --> 00:27:14,164
- Yeah, I don't know.
722
00:27:14,233 --> 00:27:15,599
I was just very optimistic
going into it.
723
00:27:15,668 --> 00:27:17,935
I was ready for anything.
I was hoping for the best.
724
00:27:18,004 --> 00:27:20,270
I learned a lot of--
not just about everybody else,
725
00:27:20,339 --> 00:27:21,772
but about myself too.
726
00:27:21,841 --> 00:27:24,074
- Ooh, what did you take
away about yourself?
727
00:27:24,143 --> 00:27:26,276
- I was afraid of being me.
728
00:27:26,345 --> 00:27:28,412
But when I got here,
and I was just--
729
00:27:28,481 --> 00:27:30,681
everybody was being
their authentic selves.
730
00:27:30,750 --> 00:27:32,850
So I had no choice
but to be my authentic self.
731
00:27:32,918 --> 00:27:33,984
[laughter]
732
00:27:34,086 --> 00:27:35,219
And it honestly kind of made me
733
00:27:35,287 --> 00:27:36,620
love myself a little bit more.
734
00:27:36,689 --> 00:27:37,921
- Mm.
- I don't know.
735
00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:39,523
I just kind of felt mature,
you know?
736
00:27:39,592 --> 00:27:40,591
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
737
00:27:40,660 --> 00:27:41,959
- How about for you, Mom?
738
00:27:42,028 --> 00:27:45,195
How was it to see
your daughter being herself?
739
00:27:45,264 --> 00:27:47,031
- It was amazing,
but I looked at her like,
740
00:27:47,099 --> 00:27:49,233
I mean, you belong,
you know what I mean?
741
00:27:49,301 --> 00:27:51,101
Like, she definitely belonged.
742
00:27:51,170 --> 00:27:56,407
And I just love everyone just
treat her like, you know,
743
00:27:56,475 --> 00:27:58,609
a little sister,
and they give her advice,
744
00:27:58,678 --> 00:28:00,244
and they want to see her win.
745
00:28:00,312 --> 00:28:03,013
Like, everyone wants
to see her win,
746
00:28:03,115 --> 00:28:04,848
and that is what I love,
like, yeah.
747
00:28:04,917 --> 00:28:06,383
- That's important.
- Mm-hmm.
748
00:28:06,452 --> 00:28:08,752
Now, Kiaya,
you were one of the moms
749
00:28:08,821 --> 00:28:10,688
that did not get COVID.
750
00:28:10,756 --> 00:28:12,189
- I'm a survivor, baby.
751
00:28:12,258 --> 00:28:13,724
[laughter]
752
00:28:13,793 --> 00:28:16,026
How was it for you to build
that bond with the other moms
753
00:28:16,128 --> 00:28:17,327
who didn't have COVID?
754
00:28:17,396 --> 00:28:18,929
- Well, it was really--
it was really nice.
755
00:28:18,998 --> 00:28:20,197
Like, I don't know.
756
00:28:20,266 --> 00:28:21,465
I kind of felt like
we were spending--
757
00:28:21,534 --> 00:28:23,033
we spent more time
with each other,
758
00:28:23,102 --> 00:28:25,169
so I felt like
we grew a tighter bond.
759
00:28:25,237 --> 00:28:26,870
And then being able
to meet Margaret,
760
00:28:26,939 --> 00:28:29,206
and Roxanne, and Christy and
just to see that everybody--
761
00:28:29,275 --> 00:28:30,407
- Wow.
762
00:28:30,476 --> 00:28:31,642
- Even the people
that are not here--
763
00:28:31,711 --> 00:28:32,743
are a reflection--
764
00:28:32,812 --> 00:28:34,011
- [laughs]
765
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,280
- Of they mama,
and it was interesting.
766
00:28:36,348 --> 00:28:37,481
- I don't know if I want to be.
767
00:28:37,550 --> 00:28:40,250
[laughter]
768
00:28:40,319 --> 00:28:41,685
I don't know about that.
769
00:28:44,824 --> 00:28:47,091
- Some parts,
some parts, some parts.
770
00:28:49,228 --> 00:28:51,028
- I like the new generation.
771
00:28:51,097 --> 00:28:53,263
- Everyone's like,
wait, what, what?
772
00:28:53,332 --> 00:28:54,565
- And I mean that--
773
00:28:54,633 --> 00:28:55,933
- In the best way.
774
00:28:56,001 --> 00:28:58,869
- With you guys, I mean that
in the best way possible.
775
00:28:58,938 --> 00:29:00,104
- Got it.
776
00:29:00,206 --> 00:29:01,905
- You know us.
We're about to laugh.
777
00:29:01,974 --> 00:29:04,641
- Everybody's like
their mom's mini-me in a way.
778
00:29:04,710 --> 00:29:05,943
And it's just--I don't know.
779
00:29:06,011 --> 00:29:08,912
It was really amazing
to just see everything.
780
00:29:08,981 --> 00:29:10,614
Like, I always felt like--
781
00:29:10,683 --> 00:29:12,082
like, I don't really
have friends at home.
782
00:29:12,151 --> 00:29:15,119
So, like, it bothers me
as a young adult.
783
00:29:15,187 --> 00:29:18,856
I feel like I don't really have
too many people to confide in,
784
00:29:18,924 --> 00:29:20,958
other than Teazha and my mom.
785
00:29:21,026 --> 00:29:23,293
So, like, growing up,
I always felt like
786
00:29:23,362 --> 00:29:25,629
I had to fight
for my acceptance,
787
00:29:25,698 --> 00:29:27,865
like I had to prove myself.
788
00:29:27,933 --> 00:29:30,000
And trust me, these are happy
tears and not sad tears.
789
00:29:30,069 --> 00:29:32,136
But it was just a relief--
790
00:29:32,238 --> 00:29:33,370
- Yeah.
791
00:29:33,439 --> 00:29:35,706
- To not have
to prove myself, you know?
792
00:29:35,775 --> 00:29:36,874
I felt so accepted.
793
00:29:36,942 --> 00:29:37,941
- Yeah.
794
00:29:38,010 --> 00:29:39,409
- I don't know.
795
00:29:39,478 --> 00:29:41,211
I just--I wouldn't take it
back, and I'm very grateful.
796
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,914
- We love you,
just everything about you.
797
00:29:43,983 --> 00:29:45,315
- Both of you.
798
00:29:45,384 --> 00:29:48,385
- Kiaya, you've--for
the time that I've known you,
799
00:29:48,454 --> 00:29:51,622
I feel like there's always
been this weight on you about--
800
00:29:51,690 --> 00:29:52,923
- Yeah.
801
00:29:52,992 --> 00:29:54,258
- Everything that happened
with your father--
802
00:29:54,326 --> 00:29:55,526
- Yeah.
- This guilt that you carried.
803
00:29:55,594 --> 00:29:56,960
Is there anything
that you discovered
804
00:29:57,029 --> 00:29:59,930
about yourself during this trip
805
00:29:59,999 --> 00:30:03,033
when it comes
to healing and coping
806
00:30:03,102 --> 00:30:05,169
with what you've been through?
807
00:30:05,237 --> 00:30:10,941
- It's tough because I feel
like no matter which way I try
808
00:30:11,010 --> 00:30:13,610
to deal with the situation,
it's just gonna be something
809
00:30:13,679 --> 00:30:16,046
that is gonna defeat me.
810
00:30:16,115 --> 00:30:17,381
I don't know.
811
00:30:17,449 --> 00:30:19,616
Like, I feel like,
if I don't get it together,
812
00:30:19,685 --> 00:30:22,853
it's gonna drive me
into a hole because, you know,
813
00:30:22,922 --> 00:30:25,155
most problems
that people have--
814
00:30:25,224 --> 00:30:28,292
like, other than, like, death--
you know, most problems,
815
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:29,760
there is a solution.
816
00:30:29,829 --> 00:30:31,728
But there's no
solution for this.
817
00:30:31,797 --> 00:30:34,565
You know, I won't get
my daddy back, period.
818
00:30:34,633 --> 00:30:36,500
I won't get the time back.
819
00:30:36,569 --> 00:30:39,102
I feel like I ran out of time,
and it's not fair.
820
00:30:39,171 --> 00:30:41,138
- He's your angel, though.
- Yeah, he is.
821
00:30:41,207 --> 00:30:43,006
- Forever and forever will be.
822
00:30:43,075 --> 00:30:44,174
- All right.
823
00:30:44,243 --> 00:30:45,709
Thank you so much,
Kiaya and Tiffany,
824
00:30:45,778 --> 00:30:47,010
for being here today.
825
00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:49,346
After the break,
we'll talk to Kayla and Luke.
826
00:30:49,415 --> 00:30:50,714
Stick around.
827
00:30:50,783 --> 00:30:53,383
[upbeat music]
828
00:30:53,452 --> 00:30:56,520
Up next on "Teen Mom Family
Reunion: The Aftermath"...
829
00:30:56,589 --> 00:31:00,023
- He had called his mom
and stood his ground
830
00:31:00,092 --> 00:31:02,059
for the first time, which
I think was great for him.
831
00:31:02,127 --> 00:31:04,061
And then she disowned him.
832
00:31:04,129 --> 00:31:06,530
- Oh, my God.
- Oh, my gosh.
833
00:31:06,599 --> 00:31:07,865
- I don't know what's wrong.
- I got her.
834
00:31:07,933 --> 00:31:09,032
I got her.
- Breathe.
835
00:31:09,101 --> 00:31:10,300
We got you.
Breathe.
836
00:31:10,369 --> 00:31:11,568
- You guys, give her space.
- We got you.
837
00:31:11,637 --> 00:31:13,036
- Can we call a medic?
A medic.
838
00:31:13,105 --> 00:31:14,805
- Can we get someone here?
- Can we get a medic out here?
839
00:31:16,208 --> 00:31:19,977
[upbeat electronic music]
840
00:31:20,045 --> 00:31:21,812
- Welcome back to
"Teen Mom Family Reunion:
841
00:31:21,881 --> 00:31:22,846
The Aftermath."
842
00:31:22,915 --> 00:31:24,514
It's now time to talk to Kayla.
843
00:31:24,583 --> 00:31:25,983
- Hi.
844
00:31:26,051 --> 00:31:29,653
- Kayla, let's take a look back
at the conversation
845
00:31:29,722 --> 00:31:32,055
that Kayla had with Coach B.
846
00:31:32,124 --> 00:31:33,824
- What is your trust level like
847
00:31:33,893 --> 00:31:35,425
with your mom?
848
00:31:35,494 --> 00:31:39,429
- I don't think
it's really there.
849
00:31:39,498 --> 00:31:41,832
I don't really know if I can
depend on her to make, like,
850
00:31:41,901 --> 00:31:44,167
good decisions for herself.
851
00:31:44,236 --> 00:31:46,403
She struggles with,
like, severe anxiety,
852
00:31:46,472 --> 00:31:49,907
severe depression from, like,
her own abuse growing up.
853
00:31:49,975 --> 00:31:51,241
I remember when I
was really young
854
00:31:51,310 --> 00:31:52,709
and I didn't really
understand what's going on.
855
00:31:52,778 --> 00:31:54,177
She was in a very
abusive relationship,
856
00:31:54,246 --> 00:31:55,979
and the only way she felt
like she could get out of it
857
00:31:56,048 --> 00:31:58,749
was to check herself
into inpatient.
858
00:31:58,817 --> 00:32:00,250
I was scared.
859
00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:02,552
I didn't know if my mom
was gonna come back.
860
00:32:02,621 --> 00:32:05,555
I didn't know if she
was gonna kill herself.
861
00:32:05,624 --> 00:32:06,556
- Why do you--
862
00:32:06,625 --> 00:32:08,959
- Because that's
why she went in.
863
00:32:12,364 --> 00:32:15,666
- Now, in the series,
we did find out, you know,
864
00:32:15,734 --> 00:32:17,768
pretty intense stuff
about your mom's past.
865
00:32:17,836 --> 00:32:19,002
- Yes.
866
00:32:19,071 --> 00:32:21,571
- And she suffered abuse,
suicidal thoughts.
867
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,774
- Yes.
868
00:32:23,842 --> 00:32:27,844
- How hard was it for you
to see her share that?
869
00:32:27,913 --> 00:32:30,280
- Yeah, I mean,
something that she's
870
00:32:30,349 --> 00:32:32,015
kept private besides,
like, you know,
871
00:32:32,084 --> 00:32:33,917
me knowing and family.
872
00:32:33,986 --> 00:32:35,552
So I think that was
really hard for her
873
00:32:35,621 --> 00:32:36,853
to share with the world.
874
00:32:36,922 --> 00:32:38,622
But I was proud
of her for speaking her truth
875
00:32:38,691 --> 00:32:39,756
because then, you know,
876
00:32:39,825 --> 00:32:41,191
she could hopefully
heal from it.
877
00:32:41,260 --> 00:32:44,461
- Now, you and Luke got
into a big argument--
878
00:32:44,530 --> 00:32:46,096
- Yes, ma'am.
- Over the phone--
879
00:32:46,165 --> 00:32:47,397
- Yes, we did.
- On "Family Reunion."
880
00:32:47,466 --> 00:32:48,598
- Yes, we did.
881
00:32:48,667 --> 00:32:50,200
- Here's a look back
at the conversation
882
00:32:50,269 --> 00:32:52,736
that Kayla had
with Luke on the phone.
883
00:32:52,805 --> 00:32:54,204
- I don't give a [bleep]
about a bitch
884
00:32:54,273 --> 00:32:55,672
talking [bleep]
about me on social media.
885
00:32:55,741 --> 00:32:57,174
That's not what this is about.
886
00:32:57,242 --> 00:32:59,343
It's about the fact that she
knows what happens to Izaiah,
887
00:32:59,411 --> 00:33:01,278
and she's trying to [bleep]
cover that [bleep] up.
888
00:33:01,347 --> 00:33:03,180
And it's triggering
that all this is [bleep]
889
00:33:03,248 --> 00:33:04,748
happening when I'm not home.
890
00:33:05,818 --> 00:33:08,118
- Check her!
[bleep] check her!
891
00:33:08,187 --> 00:33:10,454
[dramatic music]
892
00:33:10,522 --> 00:33:11,922
I'm so sick of this [bleep]!
893
00:33:11,991 --> 00:33:13,924
It's my [bleep] kids!
894
00:33:13,993 --> 00:33:15,225
Don't [bleep] hang up on me!
895
00:33:15,327 --> 00:33:16,226
Please, please.
896
00:33:16,328 --> 00:33:17,661
I'm so sick of this [bleep]!
897
00:33:17,730 --> 00:33:19,529
It's my [bleep] kids!
898
00:33:19,598 --> 00:33:22,466
Don't [bleep] hang up on me,
you piece of [bleep].
899
00:33:22,534 --> 00:33:25,469
[dramatic music]
900
00:33:25,537 --> 00:33:27,104
♪ ♪
901
00:33:27,172 --> 00:33:28,839
- What was the end result
to that?
902
00:33:28,907 --> 00:33:32,542
- He had called his mom
and stood his ground
903
00:33:32,611 --> 00:33:34,745
for the first time, which
I think was great for him.
904
00:33:34,813 --> 00:33:36,246
- Like, what do you mean
stood his ground?
905
00:33:36,348 --> 00:33:37,247
Like, with her?
906
00:33:37,349 --> 00:33:39,649
- With her, yes,
expressed himself
907
00:33:39,718 --> 00:33:41,218
because something,
like, he struggles with,
908
00:33:41,286 --> 00:33:43,720
expressing himself
and standing up to her.
909
00:33:43,789 --> 00:33:46,890
And then she disowned him
and said she wanted nothing
910
00:33:46,959 --> 00:33:48,992
to do with him or the kids.
911
00:33:49,061 --> 00:33:52,029
- Now, Briana,
you had a big reaction to that.
912
00:33:52,097 --> 00:33:55,632
- I just don't
understand how someone
913
00:33:55,701 --> 00:33:57,667
can take it out on the kids.
914
00:33:57,736 --> 00:33:59,836
And even for him,
like, that's your son.
915
00:33:59,905 --> 00:34:02,072
Why the [bleep]
would you do that?
916
00:34:02,141 --> 00:34:03,974
So to me, it's shocking
because it's like--
917
00:34:04,043 --> 00:34:05,275
- Yeah.
918
00:34:05,377 --> 00:34:06,476
- Yeah, that's your son.
919
00:34:06,545 --> 00:34:07,811
Like, you need
to be there for him,
920
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,748
and you need to be there
for his kid also, you know?
921
00:34:11,817 --> 00:34:13,250
So that's tough.
922
00:34:13,318 --> 00:34:16,686
- Before you bring
Luke out here, Kayla,
923
00:34:16,755 --> 00:34:18,288
are you and him
in a relationship?
924
00:34:18,390 --> 00:34:20,657
- No, we are not.
925
00:34:20,726 --> 00:34:22,826
He actually got an apartment
with his friend.
926
00:34:22,895 --> 00:34:24,094
So we are living separately.
927
00:34:24,163 --> 00:34:25,695
We're not in a relationship.
928
00:34:25,764 --> 00:34:26,863
Yeah.
929
00:34:26,932 --> 00:34:29,666
- Any possibility
of that from your end?
930
00:34:29,735 --> 00:34:32,436
- I mean, I don't know
what the future holds.
931
00:34:32,504 --> 00:34:35,672
But I think, like, our past
kind of caught up to us.
932
00:34:35,741 --> 00:34:37,407
- What do you mean by that?
933
00:34:37,476 --> 00:34:39,409
- Just all this stuff
we had went through
934
00:34:39,478 --> 00:34:41,244
during the four years
of our relationship.
935
00:34:41,313 --> 00:34:42,646
There's so much
that we have buried--
936
00:34:42,714 --> 00:34:44,047
- Sure.
937
00:34:44,116 --> 00:34:47,484
- That I just don't know
if we can ever really overcome.
938
00:34:47,553 --> 00:34:48,952
- Even with additional--
939
00:34:49,021 --> 00:34:49,986
- She's about ready
to pass out.
940
00:34:50,055 --> 00:34:51,154
Can someone get her?
941
00:34:51,223 --> 00:34:52,589
She's about ready to pass out.
- Oh.
942
00:34:52,658 --> 00:34:53,990
- Oh, my God.
- Oh, my God.
943
00:34:54,059 --> 00:34:55,225
- I don't know
what's wrong with her.
944
00:34:55,294 --> 00:34:56,226
- I got her.
- I got her.
945
00:34:56,295 --> 00:34:57,227
- Got her?
- Yep, yep.
946
00:34:57,296 --> 00:34:58,495
You're good.
You're good.
947
00:34:58,564 --> 00:34:59,596
You're good.
You're good.
948
00:34:59,665 --> 00:35:00,697
- Breathe, breathe.
- Is Jade OK?
949
00:35:00,766 --> 00:35:01,698
- Breathe, breathe.
Just breathe.
950
00:35:01,767 --> 00:35:03,166
We got you.
Breathe.
951
00:35:03,235 --> 00:35:04,468
- Oh, I'm scared.
- You guys, give her space.
952
00:35:04,536 --> 00:35:05,569
- It's OK, we got you.
- Can we call a medic?
953
00:35:05,637 --> 00:35:07,104
A medic.
- Can we get someone?
954
00:35:07,172 --> 00:35:09,272
- Can we get a medic out here
if they're not already there?
955
00:35:09,341 --> 00:35:10,974
- There's a chair.
Get that chair right there.
956
00:35:11,043 --> 00:35:12,008
- Calm down.
It's OK.
957
00:35:12,077 --> 00:35:13,009
- Sit here.
958
00:35:13,078 --> 00:35:15,712
- I can just--
959
00:35:15,781 --> 00:35:16,847
- All right, guys.
960
00:35:16,915 --> 00:35:18,582
Let's step back
for the medics here.
961
00:35:18,650 --> 00:35:20,383
- Give her space.
- Give her air.
962
00:35:20,486 --> 00:35:22,052
Give her air.
963
00:35:22,121 --> 00:35:24,855
- My chest is, like, hurt--
like, my chest actually hurts.
964
00:35:24,923 --> 00:35:26,556
[gasps]
965
00:35:26,625 --> 00:35:28,158
- Can you describe
the pain in your chest?
966
00:35:28,227 --> 00:35:29,292
- It hurts.
967
00:35:29,361 --> 00:35:30,494
Oh, stop.
968
00:35:30,562 --> 00:35:32,062
Don't touch me, please.
- Can I get--
969
00:35:32,131 --> 00:35:33,530
- There's Sean right here.
- She's shaking.
970
00:35:33,599 --> 00:35:34,898
- Can we clear the room?
971
00:35:34,967 --> 00:35:36,533
Can we get everyone to clear
out of the room, please?
972
00:35:36,602 --> 00:35:37,767
- Sorry.
973
00:35:37,836 --> 00:35:39,769
- Hey, can we get
some guys to get her...
974
00:35:39,838 --> 00:35:41,671
- I'm so scared.
975
00:35:41,740 --> 00:35:43,607
- Just focus on--
- I'm just scared.
976
00:35:43,675 --> 00:35:45,909
Oh, God, I'm so scared.
977
00:35:45,978 --> 00:35:48,011
- Don't be scared.
978
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,214
- Oh, every time, I'm like, I'm
dying, I'm dying, I'm dying.
979
00:35:51,283 --> 00:35:52,649
I'm dead.
980
00:35:54,419 --> 00:35:55,585
- Oh, [bleep].
981
00:35:55,654 --> 00:35:56,920
- We're just gonna go
right through here.
982
00:35:56,989 --> 00:35:58,088
- Oh, feel like
I'm going to be sick.
983
00:35:58,157 --> 00:36:00,157
[tense music]
984
00:36:00,225 --> 00:36:01,992
Oh, [bleep].
985
00:36:02,060 --> 00:36:05,996
♪ ♪
986
00:36:06,064 --> 00:36:08,765
[upbeat electronic music]
987
00:36:08,834 --> 00:36:11,334
- We're back, and Jade
is getting medical attention,
988
00:36:11,403 --> 00:36:14,070
and we'll update you
as we get more information.
989
00:36:14,139 --> 00:36:16,072
We're gonna continue
with our show,
990
00:36:16,141 --> 00:36:18,175
and we invited Luke here
to give Kayla and Luke
991
00:36:18,243 --> 00:36:19,876
the opportunity
that they didn't get
992
00:36:19,945 --> 00:36:22,078
in Oregon to work
through some of their problems.
993
00:36:22,147 --> 00:36:24,514
So please welcome
Luke and Coach B.
994
00:36:24,583 --> 00:36:25,849
[applause]
995
00:36:25,918 --> 00:36:27,951
♪ ♪
996
00:36:28,020 --> 00:36:29,753
- Hey, Luke.
997
00:36:29,821 --> 00:36:30,854
Hey, Coach B.
998
00:36:30,923 --> 00:36:31,922
- Hello, hello.
- What's up?
999
00:36:31,990 --> 00:36:33,590
Hey, how you doing?
How y'all doing?
1000
00:36:33,659 --> 00:36:34,791
How y'all doing?
1001
00:36:34,860 --> 00:36:36,026
- OK, so, Luke,
1002
00:36:36,094 --> 00:36:37,227
Kayla gave us some updates.
1003
00:36:37,296 --> 00:36:39,196
- Mm-hmm.
You two are no longer together?
1004
00:36:39,264 --> 00:36:40,997
- No, we're not.
- OK.
1005
00:36:41,066 --> 00:36:42,699
How do you feel about that?
1006
00:36:42,768 --> 00:36:44,301
- Wasn't my decision.
1007
00:36:44,369 --> 00:36:46,236
I'll say that, but, you know,
1008
00:36:46,305 --> 00:36:49,940
I got to respect it and keep on
living life, you know?
1009
00:36:50,008 --> 00:36:51,208
- Right.
1010
00:36:51,276 --> 00:36:52,809
Are you still
in love with Kayla?
1011
00:36:52,878 --> 00:36:55,478
- Very much.
1012
00:36:55,547 --> 00:36:57,948
- How does that make
you feel, Kayla?
1013
00:36:58,016 --> 00:36:59,983
- It's a hard situation.
1014
00:37:00,052 --> 00:37:01,251
You know,
I'm not gonna say, like,
1015
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,520
there's no feelings there.
1016
00:37:03,589 --> 00:37:07,724
But I do feel like our past
just really caught up to us.
1017
00:37:07,793 --> 00:37:09,926
- Kayla,
what was that last straw?
1018
00:37:09,995 --> 00:37:11,928
Take me to your mindset.
1019
00:37:11,997 --> 00:37:13,863
- I think just, like,
my self-reflection.
1020
00:37:13,932 --> 00:37:16,233
Like, I didn't like
the person I became--
1021
00:37:16,301 --> 00:37:18,802
- Mm.
- Throughout the relationship.
1022
00:37:18,870 --> 00:37:20,870
Like, he became better,
and I became worse.
1023
00:37:20,939 --> 00:37:22,572
It's just, like, ironic
because I feel like me,
1024
00:37:22,641 --> 00:37:23,773
like, building him up,
1025
00:37:23,842 --> 00:37:25,508
I was tearing myself down
at the same time.
1026
00:37:25,577 --> 00:37:30,313
- Where do you think
you fell short at with her?
1027
00:37:30,382 --> 00:37:31,815
- I don't know.
1028
00:37:31,883 --> 00:37:34,718
- Kayla, can you enlighten him
on where he fell short?
1029
00:37:34,786 --> 00:37:38,088
- I would say
really the cheating
1030
00:37:38,156 --> 00:37:41,124
throughout, like, the pregnancy
and after the pregnancy.
1031
00:37:41,193 --> 00:37:42,626
And it wasn't
just one incident.
1032
00:37:42,694 --> 00:37:44,060
It was multiple.
1033
00:37:44,129 --> 00:37:47,664
So I don't think
he was in love with me
1034
00:37:47,733 --> 00:37:50,500
when I was in love with him,
and then it's like--
1035
00:37:50,569 --> 00:37:54,871
it took me, like, stepping out
on him for him to, like,
1036
00:37:54,940 --> 00:37:55,939
develop those feelings.
1037
00:37:56,008 --> 00:37:57,140
- Did you hear what you said?
1038
00:37:57,209 --> 00:37:59,276
It took you
to match his toxicity--
1039
00:37:59,344 --> 00:38:00,644
- Yeah.
1040
00:38:00,712 --> 00:38:02,946
- And match his dysfunction
for him to wake up.
1041
00:38:03,015 --> 00:38:05,248
I want to ask--
and you may not listen,
1042
00:38:05,317 --> 00:38:08,251
but I want to ask that you
stop pursuing her and any woman
1043
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:09,919
until you pursue yourself.
1044
00:38:09,988 --> 00:38:13,156
- I'm good on any type
of relationship right now.
1045
00:38:13,225 --> 00:38:14,391
- Mm-hmm.
1046
00:38:14,459 --> 00:38:15,759
- Like, I've learned
I'm not good at it.
1047
00:38:15,827 --> 00:38:16,960
So I feel like--
1048
00:38:17,029 --> 00:38:18,061
- Can you commit to that?
1049
00:38:18,130 --> 00:38:19,296
- Oh, definitely.
1050
00:38:19,364 --> 00:38:20,397
- Kayla.
1051
00:38:20,465 --> 00:38:21,498
- Yes, ma'am?
1052
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,199
- Tell me where you are.
1053
00:38:23,268 --> 00:38:25,135
There's a new relationship
or something going?
1054
00:38:25,203 --> 00:38:27,203
- No, I'm not.
I'm not in a relationship.
1055
00:38:27,272 --> 00:38:29,806
- OK, so you're not--oh, OK.
1056
00:38:29,875 --> 00:38:31,608
Well--
- Please tell the truth, Kayla.
1057
00:38:31,677 --> 00:38:33,276
- I'm not in a relationship.
1058
00:38:33,345 --> 00:38:35,245
I am seeing somebody,
1059
00:38:35,314 --> 00:38:36,980
but, like, it's new,
you know what I mean?
1060
00:38:37,049 --> 00:38:38,815
Just feeling it out.
1061
00:38:38,884 --> 00:38:41,384
- The only thing
that I was not OK with
1062
00:38:41,453 --> 00:38:43,486
is how early she brought
the kids around him.
1063
00:38:43,555 --> 00:38:46,156
- No, no, no, no, no.
- Tell the truth.
1064
00:38:46,224 --> 00:38:48,291
- He helped me move
a piece of furniture.
1065
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,794
- She had a friend--
the guy--help her move the bed.
1066
00:38:50,862 --> 00:38:54,064
And I was just upset because
the children were present.
1067
00:38:54,132 --> 00:38:55,298
That was my only problem.
1068
00:38:55,367 --> 00:38:56,700
- Now you're trying
to out me right now,
1069
00:38:56,768 --> 00:38:58,234
and there's so much [bleep]
I could air about you,
1070
00:38:58,303 --> 00:38:59,436
and that's pretty
[bleep] up.
1071
00:38:59,504 --> 00:39:01,604
- Go ahead.
1072
00:39:01,673 --> 00:39:02,906
- Kayla,
you're getting emotional.
1073
00:39:02,974 --> 00:39:04,274
What's going on?
1074
00:39:04,343 --> 00:39:05,742
- Because I feel like
he always wants to paint me
1075
00:39:05,811 --> 00:39:07,444
as this bad person.
1076
00:39:07,512 --> 00:39:08,812
And it's so
[bleep] frustrating.
1077
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,380
His family does it.
He does it.
1078
00:39:10,449 --> 00:39:11,348
And I feel like
I don't be doing
1079
00:39:11,416 --> 00:39:12,749
[bleep] wrong to this man.
1080
00:39:12,818 --> 00:39:13,950
- The family I don't talk to--
- I have helped him.
1081
00:39:14,019 --> 00:39:15,118
- Because I stood up
for our child?
1082
00:39:15,187 --> 00:39:16,386
- I've helped him so much--
- Our son?
1083
00:39:16,455 --> 00:39:19,055
- And all he does
is tear me down.
1084
00:39:19,124 --> 00:39:20,256
- This is the last thing
I wanted to do
1085
00:39:20,325 --> 00:39:21,624
was the fighting
and arguing because after--
1086
00:39:21,693 --> 00:39:23,126
- No, it's just funny--
- This, we got to go home.
1087
00:39:23,195 --> 00:39:24,661
- Because before we came here,
he's like,
1088
00:39:24,730 --> 00:39:26,596
"I'm not gonna fight with you.
I'm not gonna do any of that.
1089
00:39:26,665 --> 00:39:28,331
Don't air out my business.
I'm not gonna try to."
1090
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:29,466
Because I told him, I'm like,
1091
00:39:29,534 --> 00:39:30,867
"I feel like you're
gonna get up here
1092
00:39:30,936 --> 00:39:32,802
and try to twist the situation
into something it's not."
1093
00:39:32,871 --> 00:39:33,870
He's like,
"No, I would never do that.
1094
00:39:33,939 --> 00:39:34,871
I would never do that."
1095
00:39:34,940 --> 00:39:36,506
But you're doing that.
- OK.
1096
00:39:36,575 --> 00:39:38,208
- I feel like he's
always trying to paint himself
1097
00:39:38,276 --> 00:39:40,577
as the victim, always.
1098
00:39:40,645 --> 00:39:43,046
- I don't want to cause any
problems because the last thing
1099
00:39:43,115 --> 00:39:45,348
that I want--that's
the last thing that I want
1100
00:39:45,417 --> 00:39:47,016
because my kids
are my everything.
1101
00:39:47,085 --> 00:39:49,786
And, like, she knows that.
1102
00:39:49,855 --> 00:39:52,088
Like, I don't want
our relationship to be
1103
00:39:52,157 --> 00:39:55,058
any more difficult
than what it was.
1104
00:39:55,127 --> 00:39:57,594
And I just want to keep being
able to see them when I can
1105
00:39:57,696 --> 00:39:59,362
or when I--
1106
00:39:59,431 --> 00:40:01,965
like, what we got going now
is perfectly fine with me.
1107
00:40:02,033 --> 00:40:04,134
And I just didn't want
to come up here and ruin that.
1108
00:40:04,202 --> 00:40:08,037
And I wasn't trying
to air anything out.
1109
00:40:08,106 --> 00:40:10,039
Like, I truly am sorry.
1110
00:40:10,108 --> 00:40:11,241
Like, I didn't--
1111
00:40:11,309 --> 00:40:13,810
that wasn't my intention,
and you know that.
1112
00:40:13,879 --> 00:40:16,012
- Understand that you're
parents at the end of the day.
1113
00:40:16,081 --> 00:40:18,348
And it's really not
about airing each other out.
1114
00:40:18,417 --> 00:40:20,650
It's about having
a real conversation.
1115
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,752
If you can't be transparent,
and you can't be honest,
1116
00:40:22,821 --> 00:40:24,087
you can't heal a lie,
1117
00:40:24,156 --> 00:40:25,588
you'll just be stuck
in dysfunction.
1118
00:40:25,657 --> 00:40:29,626
Healing takes place
when truth is brought forward.
1119
00:40:29,728 --> 00:40:30,727
OK.
1120
00:40:30,796 --> 00:40:31,995
- Well, thank you
so much, Kayla.
1121
00:40:32,063 --> 00:40:33,296
Thank you, Luke,
for being out here.
1122
00:40:33,365 --> 00:40:35,031
Really appreciate it.
1123
00:40:35,100 --> 00:40:37,100
And that does it for
"Teen Mom Family Reunion:
1124
00:40:37,169 --> 00:40:38,368
The Aftermath."
1125
00:40:38,437 --> 00:40:40,370
Thank you so much to the moms,
the grandmas,
1126
00:40:40,439 --> 00:40:42,806
the dads, Coach B,
and everyone who made
1127
00:40:42,874 --> 00:40:44,774
this "Family Reunion"
so special.
1128
00:40:44,843 --> 00:40:46,743
I'm Nessa,
and I'll see you next time.
1129
00:40:46,812 --> 00:40:49,746
[cheers and applause]
1130
00:40:49,815 --> 00:40:52,248
♪ ♪