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<i>♪♪ ♪♪</i>

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<i>- Life is busy as a mom.</i>

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- Yay!

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<i>- But tonight,</i>
<i>we're taking a break...</i>

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<i>- Cuddling up...</i>

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- Here, babe.

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<i>- And tuning in</i>
<i>to our favorite show,</i>

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<i>"Teen Mom OG."</i>

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- All right.
- Let's go.

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<i>- Last week, Amber</i>
<i>and Gary went to therapy.</i>

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- Me and my wife,
we're trying to have

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a relationship with Amber.

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- I feel like Kristina
should have been here.

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- Kristina puts up
with a [bleep] lot

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because I couldn't.

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<i>- Maci and Taylor</i>
<i>had an awkward date.</i>

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- Aw, damn.
- Bless your heart.

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- That's Southern
for "you idiot."

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<i>- Mackenzie let her dad</i>
<i>take Jaxie for the summer.</i>

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- So why not take all of them?
I'm judging.

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- I'm gonna miss her.

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- Well, yeah.
- A lot.

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<i>- While Cheyenne recovered</i>
<i>from childbirth.</i>

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- Right now, I feel like
I'm just getting zero sleep.

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- It's hard.

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- Yeah, Chey, that's why
I only got one, girl.

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- Now they're trying
to plan a wedding.

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- [sighs]
<i>- And Catelynn had a baby.</i>

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- Baby fell right out.

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- This is the part in my birth
when I was like, uh-uh,

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wash 'em off first.

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- What a little snookums.

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<i>- And we can't wait</i>
<i>to see what happens next.</i>

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<i>- It's a girls night in.</i>

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- Yo, yo, yo.
- Next episode!

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- Bar.
- What?

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- Stop yelling.

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<i>♪♪ ♪♪</i>

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- Here, I'm gonna pull this
forward, so I can set my drink.

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- Who's got the remote?

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I got the remote!

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- I can't wait to see
what's gonna happen tonight.

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- What you got
in your poke bowl?

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- Steak and tofu.

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- I'm ready to tackle
that pepperoni.

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- Go ahead.
You can eat it.

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- Just eat it.
- Thank you.

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- Just do whatever.

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- Could I get that blanket
behind you, booby?

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- Don't say that
in front of the camera.

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- Thank you, booby.
- Ooh!

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OK, I will trade the remote.
I'll trade.

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- You'll trade me
for the remote?

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- Yeah.
It's a reunion!

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I get so much anxiety
at reunions.

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- See what's going on here.

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- Who's scrapping?
Fight, fight, fight, fight!

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- Let's get
the reunion started.

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I love me a good reunion.
- Ha-ha.

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- Oh, it's a reunion?
- Yeah.

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- Mm-hmm.

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- Welcome to the
"Teen Mom OG" reunion.

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- Drewsky.

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- Hey, Dr. Drew.

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- Let's see who
he's going to make cry.

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- Well, I'm not there,
so he can't make me cry.

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- Can't make me cry.

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- Saying I have
schizoaffective disorder.

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- Who said that?
- Drew.

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- [laughs]

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- This has been
an unforgettable season.

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But we're beginning
with three OG moms

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who have been with us
from the very first season

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of "16 and Pregnant."

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- Oh, my God.
- Oh, my goodness.

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- Oh, my gosh.

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- Oh, my God.
- They all look like babies.

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- We were babies.

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- Wait, when I used
to show my legs.

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- Oh, Amber.

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- Bangs, bangs, bangs.

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- Children.
- OK.

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- I still have that look.

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- It's the
"don't [bleep] with me" look.

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- Aw, Cate!

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- Cate had
the Justin Bieber bang,

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where you just go like this
all day.

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- It's like, killing brain
cells every time you do it.

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- Oh, my God, we are children.

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We thought we were so grown.

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- We did think
we were so grown.

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- Oh, Maci with the bob?

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OK, bob.

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- Them spray tans though,
Jesus.

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- She looks the same.
She needs a new hairdo.

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- She does.

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[laughter]

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- I look like
my mother right there.

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That's Sharon.

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- I feel like remember watching
Maci, "16 and Pregnant."

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That was so long ago.

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- You was just as young
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- Mm-hmm.
We were all 16 and pregnant.

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- I can't imagine being
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and being under the spotlight.

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I can't.
- [bleep] wild.

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- Let's talk about this season.

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Amber, what stands out
to you most for this season?

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- I mean,
it's been 13 years, guys.

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<i>And look at this.</i>
<i>It's the truth.</i>

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- Oh, look at Farrah
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I remember the day we did this.

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It seems like a long time ago.

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- Look at her.
- Is that you?

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- No.
- Oh.

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- Did you say I look like her?

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- No, I didn't say
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I could see--
- Wait, oh, boy, babe.

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- The picture was blurry.
I just could barely see it.

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- This season, I think,
just with COVID and everything,

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it was like,
all right, I'll watch.

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And then I was like,
hmm, you got some [bleep]

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you got to work on, sis.

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- They did work through
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it seemed like.

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Some cooler stuff,
some big challenges.

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- Yeah, I remember Maci was
working through, like, PTSD

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the majority of the season.

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- Right.

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- Amber was working through
mental health and her kid.

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- Two of the other girls
are having babies.

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- Right, it's a lot
going on between them.

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- That's major life [bleep].

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- Don't you remember
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were pregnant
and having babies?

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- We were so worried
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that our children,
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were already trying
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and they were
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- Yeah.
- Remember that?

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- Oh, God, I remember that.

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Like, what the hell, man?
- And now look at them.

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They're beautiful,
strong women.

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- And everyone said
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"You're gonna raise that baby.
You're gonna raise the baby."

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I said, hell no,
I'm not gonna raise that baby.

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- Hell yeah, you are.

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[laughter]

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- Does my hair look OK?

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- Your hair always
looks good, baby.

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- OK, don't lie to me.
- I'm not lying to you.

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- All right,
all right, all right.

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- How's my hair look?

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- It looks great right now.

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[applause]

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- Welcome back to the
"Teen Mom OG" reunion.

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We're now here
with Cate and Ty.

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- Hi.
- Hi.

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- Three daughters.
- Three daughters.

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Sorry about those
Y chromosomes, my friend.

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- Man, what happened?
[laughter]

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- Can't make no boys.

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- I want to talk to you
about the visit with Carly.

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- Oh, my God,
I bet that was so beautiful.

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- I'm just blessed that she
gets to have a relationship

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with her sisters.

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- And we saw you get very
emotional after the visit.

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Why not in front of Carly?

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- Well, you got to hold it in.

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- I'm nervous that Carly's
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and say,
"He was crying so hard."

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- OK, well, I'm not
saying you should cry.

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I'm saying,
acknowledge her feelings

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and describe
how you feel similar.

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- I know,
but I had to walk away.

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- 'Cause you'd lose it.
- I can't control it.

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- Yeah.
- I can't control it.

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Ah!
[laughter]

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I can't [bleep] control it.

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- Because he really cares.

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He loves her.
- I know.

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- He couldn't
control the tears.

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- Thank you for letting
him know, Tyler.

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Because Dr. Drew thinks
that it's just [bleep] easy.

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- I don't agree with Dr. Drew
saying, don't cry.

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That was kind of [bleep] up.

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- But if the little girl
sees them crying,

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it puts the little girl
in a situation where she's

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gonna have to identify their
feelings and acknowledge them.

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And in her life,
they're not a priority.

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The mom and dad are a priority.

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- I agree
with Dr. Drew, though.

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Maybe just say, like,

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it is tough,
but I'll see you next time.

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- I'm having a hard time too.

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- And I'm looking
forward to it.

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- Right.
Some words of reinforcement.

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- Whatever,
easier said than done.

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- Right.
- 'Cause I don't know.

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- 'Cause I'm not
in the situation.

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- I might do a snatch and grab.
- On God.

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- The way I'm set up.
- Set up.

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- Throughout the season,
we heard you talking

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about feeling inadequate
as a father,

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which flies in the face
of what we all see.

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- I think Ty's a great dad.
- I know, for real.

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- He grew up to be
quite the man, you know?

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He is a good person.

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- He's been
through so much trauma.

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- Yeah.

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- I think there are things
that, you know,

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when you're not raised
with a dad around

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and you're only raised
with women, it's kind of like,

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you got to teach
yourself how to be a man.

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You know?
- Yep.

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- How to even be a dad.

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Like, I don't know,
so there's things that like,

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you know,
you feel--you question.

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- Right.
- You doubt.

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- You always second-guess
yourself as a parent, for sure.

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- Like, I question the same
thing sometimes, you feel me?

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As far as, like,
when I'm doing stuff.

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And I'll be like,
go in your room,

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or go sit in a timeout
or something.

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And I send her off
or get short,

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and I'd be immediately,
I'm like, damn.

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Was I just too harsh?

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Like, you know,
am I being extra?

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I think a lot of people
don't talk about that,

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as people being parents,
used to constant,

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constant criticizing,
like, what you're doing.

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- I feel like
bad parents always think

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they're the [bleep].

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And great parents
are always doubting themselves.

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- Years ago,
I did always internalize it

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because of my own traumas
as a child.

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- Right, the work that--
you've both come a long way,

245
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but particularly work you've
done takes my breath away.

246
00:07:45,999 --> 00:07:47,668
I've told you.
- Thanks, Dr. Drew.

247
00:07:47,734 --> 00:07:50,537
- You have to give them credit

248
00:07:50,604 --> 00:07:53,240
because, you know,
the first baby they had,

249
00:07:53,307 --> 00:07:54,675
they gave up for adoption.

250
00:07:54,741 --> 00:07:57,377
- Because they
realized the situation,

251
00:07:57,444 --> 00:07:59,179
and they wanted
to protect Carly.

252
00:07:59,246 --> 00:08:00,581
- And I know.

253
00:08:00,647 --> 00:08:03,283
And I think that it
was such a mature decision.

254
00:08:03,350 --> 00:08:04,551
- Commendable, yeah.

255
00:08:04,618 --> 00:08:06,253
- Especially
because they grew up

256
00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,755
in such horrible families.

257
00:08:08,822 --> 00:08:12,326
- Yeah, they had never known
any financial success.

258
00:08:12,392 --> 00:08:17,064
They had never known anything
but dysfunction and despair.

259
00:08:17,130 --> 00:08:20,267
And if you go back
to the very first episode,

260
00:08:20,334 --> 00:08:22,336
they were living in a trailer.

261
00:08:22,402 --> 00:08:23,670
- Yes, yes.
- All of--

262
00:08:23,737 --> 00:08:25,372
- Yes, I remember that, yeah.
- All of them.

263
00:08:25,439 --> 00:08:26,406
- Yes, I remember that.

264
00:08:26,473 --> 00:08:27,875
- You've said this season,

265
00:08:27,941 --> 00:08:29,343
you're willing to do anything
you look into everything,

266
00:08:29,409 --> 00:08:30,644
any possibility
to try to get better.

267
00:08:30,711 --> 00:08:32,379
And you came
upon ketamine therapy.

268
00:08:32,446 --> 00:08:34,515
- Mm-hmm.
- You can do ketamine therapy?

269
00:08:34,581 --> 00:08:36,917
- Do you get,
like, lifted on it?

270
00:08:36,984 --> 00:08:39,219
Like, high?
Like, I'm so confused.

271
00:08:39,286 --> 00:08:42,055
- That's a horse
tranquilizer, cuz.

272
00:08:42,122 --> 00:08:43,423
[whinnies]

273
00:08:43,490 --> 00:08:45,359
- Ketamine therapy,
for everyone out there,

274
00:08:45,425 --> 00:08:48,662
it's a dissociative
anesthetic really,

275
00:08:48,729 --> 00:08:50,597
that's used for depression.

276
00:08:50,664 --> 00:08:52,799
This is not
a hallucinogenic thing.

277
00:08:52,866 --> 00:08:54,935
This is not
a recreational thing.

278
00:08:55,002 --> 00:08:57,037
This is a treatment
for recalcitrant depression.

279
00:08:57,104 --> 00:08:59,106
And it has a pretty good
impact on depression.

280
00:08:59,173 --> 00:09:00,374
Pretty good.
- Yeah.

281
00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,242
- Dr. Drew, I feel
like I'm watching,

282
00:09:02,309 --> 00:09:04,778
like, "Gray's Anatomy."

283
00:09:04,845 --> 00:09:06,280
- How'd it go for you?
- I mean, it was amazing.

284
00:09:06,346 --> 00:09:09,416
It really helped me a lot.
Like, it felt very intense.

285
00:09:09,483 --> 00:09:11,318
- [bleep] then.
- I don't know.

286
00:09:11,385 --> 00:09:12,553
- I don't feel
like I'm that depressed,

287
00:09:12,619 --> 00:09:16,590
to get a shot
that tranquilizes horses.

288
00:09:16,657 --> 00:09:18,458
- Well, I'm glad
it helped him though.

289
00:09:18,525 --> 00:09:19,927
- Yeah.
- That's dope.

290
00:09:19,993 --> 00:09:22,095
- I mean,
whatever helps you out.

291
00:09:22,162 --> 00:09:23,263
Look into it.

292
00:09:23,330 --> 00:09:24,531
Maybe something you
might want to do.

293
00:09:24,598 --> 00:09:26,567
- Uh, OK.
I don't know.

294
00:09:26,633 --> 00:09:27,868
- I mean, don't knock it
till you try it.

295
00:09:27,935 --> 00:09:29,069
- I'm not.
I'm not knocking it.

296
00:09:29,136 --> 00:09:30,470
- Why don't you ask Tyler
what it was like?

297
00:09:30,537 --> 00:09:31,939
- I'ma hit him.

298
00:09:32,005 --> 00:09:33,240
- On a real level, be like,
hey, bro, was it shrooms?

299
00:09:33,307 --> 00:09:34,241
[laughs]
Just kidding.

300
00:09:34,308 --> 00:09:35,576
- Shrooms, hey, what's up.

301
00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:41,582
- Look.

302
00:09:41,648 --> 00:09:43,083
- Shut up!

303
00:09:43,150 --> 00:09:45,018
- She looks just like Sean
in this picture.

304
00:09:45,085 --> 00:09:47,254
- Yeah, Sean's kid.

305
00:09:47,321 --> 00:09:48,689
It's the mannerisms
she makes, you know?

306
00:09:48,755 --> 00:09:50,324
- Yeah, I remember one time,
I got so pissed off

307
00:09:50,390 --> 00:09:52,059
because his mom said,
"I mean, well,

308
00:09:52,125 --> 00:09:53,861
"we certainly don't
need a DNA test.

309
00:09:53,927 --> 00:09:54,995
Looks just like Sean."

310
00:09:55,062 --> 00:09:56,396
And I was like--
- Bitch.

311
00:09:56,463 --> 00:09:58,332
- Now, bitch, why the [bleep]
would we need DNA?

312
00:09:58,398 --> 00:10:00,267
Like, I literally,
I called Sean.

313
00:10:00,334 --> 00:10:01,835
I was like,
"I'll be right back."

314
00:10:01,902 --> 00:10:03,103
I went to the bathroom.
- [laughs]

315
00:10:03,170 --> 00:10:04,471
- And I was like--
- "I'll be right back."

316
00:10:04,538 --> 00:10:05,639
- I was like,
"Your mom's got me [bleep] up."

317
00:10:05,706 --> 00:10:06,907
I was like,
"She talking about--"

318
00:10:06,974 --> 00:10:07,841
and he was like,
"She's probably just trying

319
00:10:07,908 --> 00:10:09,443
to make a joke."

320
00:10:09,510 --> 00:10:10,878
I was like, "Jokes are funny.
It wasn't [bleep] funny to me.

321
00:10:10,944 --> 00:10:12,012
It was annoying."

322
00:10:12,079 --> 00:10:14,314
And he was like,
"Just calm down."

323
00:10:14,381 --> 00:10:15,516
- Yeah.

324
00:10:15,582 --> 00:10:17,251
- For real.

325
00:10:17,317 --> 00:10:19,486
- Welcome back to the
"Teen Mom OG Reunion."

326
00:10:19,553 --> 00:10:21,154
It is time now
to speak with Amber.

327
00:10:21,221 --> 00:10:22,956
- Oh, Amber goes off...
- OK.

328
00:10:23,023 --> 00:10:24,191
- In this.
- Well, let's see.

329
00:10:24,258 --> 00:10:25,592
Because--
- I'm tryna see some [bleep].

330
00:10:25,659 --> 00:10:26,827
- I need to see something.

331
00:10:26,894 --> 00:10:28,262
- I feel like
they have enabled Amber

332
00:10:28,328 --> 00:10:30,097
to be this terrible person.

333
00:10:30,163 --> 00:10:31,565
But like...
- Yeah, I know.

334
00:10:31,632 --> 00:10:33,901
- Knowing her and like,
getting to know her is like,

335
00:10:33,967 --> 00:10:35,469
it's complete opposites.

336
00:10:35,536 --> 00:10:36,603
So weird to me.

337
00:10:36,670 --> 00:10:38,138
- 'Cause I think
she's a good person.

338
00:10:38,205 --> 00:10:40,574
- And she does seem much more--

339
00:10:40,641 --> 00:10:43,710
she doesn't seem so eager
to have an outburst.

340
00:10:43,777 --> 00:10:45,379
- All right.
We're going to bring Gary out.

341
00:10:45,445 --> 00:10:46,947
Everyone, please welcome Gary.

342
00:10:47,014 --> 00:10:48,482
[applause]

343
00:10:48,549 --> 00:10:49,583
Hey, Gary.
- Hello.

344
00:10:49,650 --> 00:10:52,419
[both chanting]
Gary, Gary, Gary.

345
00:10:52,486 --> 00:10:53,987
- He's hilarious.
- Gare Bear.

346
00:10:54,054 --> 00:10:56,056
- Gare Bear.
- "Guh-ree."

347
00:10:56,123 --> 00:10:57,257
- He looks like
he lost some weight.

348
00:10:57,324 --> 00:10:58,859
- Yeah.
He'd been out in his garden.

349
00:10:58,926 --> 00:11:00,561
- Garden.
- Sweating.

350
00:11:00,627 --> 00:11:02,596
- He'd been
out there in the sun.

351
00:11:02,663 --> 00:11:06,266
- So, Gary, you finally
went to therapy with Amber.

352
00:11:06,333 --> 00:11:07,734
- That's a big step,
I feel like.

353
00:11:07,801 --> 00:11:08,969
- Mm-hmm.

354
00:11:09,036 --> 00:11:09,937
- Don't you think
it'd be a good idea

355
00:11:10,003 --> 00:11:11,238
for Leah to see somebody too?

356
00:11:11,305 --> 00:11:12,973
So she can kind of be
brought along with?

357
00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,075
- She is speaking
to somebody--

358
00:11:15,142 --> 00:11:16,577
- OK, OK.
- A professional.

359
00:11:16,643 --> 00:11:17,911
- Good.

360
00:11:17,978 --> 00:11:19,246
- There you go.

361
00:11:19,313 --> 00:11:20,814
- You probably
didn't know this.

362
00:11:20,881 --> 00:11:23,417
Per Leah's request, she didn't
want it to be talked about.

363
00:11:23,483 --> 00:11:25,552
- What?
- Amber didn't know that.

364
00:11:25,619 --> 00:11:27,321
- Oh, no,
she's probably pissed.

365
00:11:27,387 --> 00:11:28,722
- Amber,
that's good news, right?

366
00:11:28,789 --> 00:11:29,990
- Yeah, it's good.
- You're maybe going to see--

367
00:11:30,057 --> 00:11:31,191
- If I knew about it.

368
00:11:31,258 --> 00:11:32,659
- Oh, geez, here we go now.

369
00:11:32,726 --> 00:11:34,628
Instead of saying thank you.

370
00:11:34,695 --> 00:11:37,264
- Part of Leah going, she
didn't want anybody knowing,

371
00:11:37,331 --> 00:11:38,966
to start off,
and I have supported that.

372
00:11:39,032 --> 00:11:41,001
I was like,
it's your safe spot.

373
00:11:41,068 --> 00:11:42,903
- I agree with Gary.

374
00:11:42,970 --> 00:11:44,371
But then I don't.

375
00:11:44,438 --> 00:11:45,572
- How many times has she gone?

376
00:11:45,639 --> 00:11:47,941
- She's gone,
I think, about ten.

377
00:11:48,008 --> 00:11:50,210
- Ooh, goodness.
- [gasps]

378
00:11:50,277 --> 00:11:52,913
That's a lot of times
to not say nothing.

379
00:11:52,980 --> 00:11:54,014
- Here's the thing.

380
00:11:54,081 --> 00:11:55,482
I'm the mother of her.
- Yeah.

381
00:11:55,549 --> 00:11:58,018
- I need to understand
what Leah is going through,

382
00:11:58,085 --> 00:11:59,319
so I believe
that the communication

383
00:11:59,386 --> 00:12:00,854
should be there for that.

384
00:12:00,921 --> 00:12:02,623
- Amen.
- Yeah.

385
00:12:02,689 --> 00:12:04,358
- You should have said,
"She's in therapy."

386
00:12:04,424 --> 00:12:05,592
- Yeah, he should
have said something.

387
00:12:05,659 --> 00:12:06,793
- I am her mother.

388
00:12:06,860 --> 00:12:07,861
- So you don't think
it's OK for her

389
00:12:07,928 --> 00:12:08,795
not to tell you
what she's doing

390
00:12:08,862 --> 00:12:10,063
in order to help herself?

391
00:12:10,130 --> 00:12:11,131
- No, she doesn't
need to say anything.

392
00:12:11,198 --> 00:12:13,267
But you can tell me.

393
00:12:13,333 --> 00:12:14,434
- So you mean,
break her trust and tell you

394
00:12:14,501 --> 00:12:15,702
what she doesn't
want you to know.

395
00:12:15,769 --> 00:12:17,070
- Yeah, that's not
breaking trust, though.

396
00:12:17,137 --> 00:12:18,238
- There's been a--
- That's not breaking trust.

397
00:12:18,305 --> 00:12:19,273
- She wasn't wanting
to go unless--

398
00:12:19,339 --> 00:12:20,507
- That doesn't matter.

399
00:12:20,574 --> 00:12:21,608
- She felt safe
and had somewhere safe

400
00:12:21,675 --> 00:12:22,743
to say what she wants.

401
00:12:22,809 --> 00:12:24,978
- They both have
good arguing points.

402
00:12:25,045 --> 00:12:26,647
I'm torn in the middle.

403
00:12:26,713 --> 00:12:27,948
- Amber is the mom.

404
00:12:28,015 --> 00:12:29,316
- Yeah.

405
00:12:29,383 --> 00:12:31,885
- Whether you like it or not,
she's the mom.

406
00:12:31,952 --> 00:12:33,787
Of course
she would have attitude

407
00:12:33,854 --> 00:12:37,357
if she's been advocating
for the child to get therapy.

408
00:12:37,424 --> 00:12:40,327
You were advocating against it.
Now you put her in it.

409
00:12:40,394 --> 00:12:41,662
- Now she's in therapy,
and you didn't tell her.

410
00:12:41,728 --> 00:12:42,796
- And I don't know.

411
00:12:42,863 --> 00:12:44,031
- I was trying to let you know.

412
00:12:44,097 --> 00:12:45,566
And I was given
permission from Leah.

413
00:12:45,632 --> 00:12:47,234
- Well, thank you for letting
me know on the stage here.

414
00:12:47,301 --> 00:12:49,002
I don't need a camera
in front of my face

415
00:12:49,069 --> 00:12:50,370
for me to know something.

416
00:12:50,437 --> 00:12:51,505
- She's right about that.
- That's true.

417
00:12:51,572 --> 00:12:52,940
- I agree with Amber
on this one.

418
00:12:53,006 --> 00:12:54,308
- Yeah.
- It's like--

419
00:12:54,374 --> 00:12:56,276
- I feel like Amber just
feels sad that, you know--

420
00:12:56,343 --> 00:12:57,544
- That she wasn't informed.
- She wasn't informed.

421
00:12:57,611 --> 00:12:58,879
- Yeah.

422
00:12:58,946 --> 00:12:59,980
- It's hard to be a mom
and be [bleep] left out.

423
00:13:00,047 --> 00:13:01,248
- She pushed her out.
- Yeah.

424
00:13:01,315 --> 00:13:02,683
- I hate that.
- But I think--

425
00:13:02,749 --> 00:13:04,084
- You know, like--

426
00:13:04,151 --> 00:13:05,953
- I don't think Gary doing it--
- Out of spite.

427
00:13:06,019 --> 00:13:08,655
It was more out of being
a good dad, keeping her secret.

428
00:13:08,722 --> 00:13:10,157
- It still hurts,
as a mom, though,

429
00:13:10,224 --> 00:13:11,458
regardless how it came about.

430
00:13:11,525 --> 00:13:13,193
- Like, there are days
when the girls are going

431
00:13:13,260 --> 00:13:14,995
through something, like,
and Corey calls you

432
00:13:15,062 --> 00:13:15,996
you and tells you about it.

433
00:13:16,063 --> 00:13:17,598
He don't have to tell you that.

434
00:13:17,664 --> 00:13:19,766
But the fact that he goes out
of his way and tells you that

435
00:13:19,833 --> 00:13:22,703
says a lot about, like,
his relationship with you.

436
00:13:22,769 --> 00:13:23,804
- Mm-hmm.

437
00:13:23,871 --> 00:13:25,305
- And what it sounds
to me like

438
00:13:25,372 --> 00:13:27,808
is that there's still some
issues that they're probably

439
00:13:27,875 --> 00:13:29,243
having between them two

440
00:13:29,309 --> 00:13:31,345
that he's like,
I don't feel comfortable

441
00:13:31,411 --> 00:13:33,580
telling her certain things.

442
00:13:33,647 --> 00:13:34,715
- Yeah.

443
00:13:34,781 --> 00:13:35,849
- That's what
I'm talking about.

444
00:13:35,916 --> 00:13:37,551
- And for Gary to say it
on television...

445
00:13:37,618 --> 00:13:39,286
- No.
- And not private is [bleep].

446
00:13:39,353 --> 00:13:40,654
- Permission.

447
00:13:40,721 --> 00:13:42,589
- He had ten chances
to tell her.

448
00:13:42,656 --> 00:13:43,824
- Uh-huh.

449
00:13:43,891 --> 00:13:45,325
- That was raw.
- That's 2 1/2 months.

450
00:13:45,392 --> 00:13:46,627
- That was too raw for her
to handle on national TV.

451
00:13:46,693 --> 00:13:48,061
[bleep] that [bleep].
No way.

452
00:13:48,128 --> 00:13:48,962
- Here's what
Amber's position is.

453
00:13:49,029 --> 00:13:50,264
You have a child.

454
00:13:50,330 --> 00:13:51,431
You're putting the child
in charge of the therapy.

455
00:13:51,498 --> 00:13:52,599
You don't--
- Exactly.

456
00:13:52,666 --> 00:13:53,967
- I'm not putting her
in charge of it.

457
00:13:54,034 --> 00:13:55,502
- I'm just saying,
that's what Amber's saying.

458
00:13:55,569 --> 00:13:56,703
- OK, if I were to sit there
and say, you would understand.

459
00:13:56,770 --> 00:13:58,105
- You don't do that.
- I know, I know.

460
00:13:58,172 --> 00:13:59,339
Gary, Gary, Gary--
- My Lord, have mercy.

461
00:13:59,406 --> 00:14:00,641
- I understand what
you're saying too.

462
00:14:00,707 --> 00:14:01,875
- No you don't
'cause you're not listening.

463
00:14:01,942 --> 00:14:02,876
- It's getting heated.

464
00:14:02,943 --> 00:14:04,211
I feel the tension.

465
00:14:04,278 --> 00:14:05,212
- Somebody has a plan
to do something with you.

466
00:14:05,279 --> 00:14:06,713
- It doesn't matter.

467
00:14:06,780 --> 00:14:08,115
- I can't tell you because
it's supposed to be private.

468
00:14:08,182 --> 00:14:09,283
- Don't start yelling at me.

469
00:14:09,349 --> 00:14:10,684
- Well, don't sit
and point your finger...

470
00:14:10,751 --> 00:14:11,618
- I don't even care.
- In my face, and act like--

471
00:14:11,685 --> 00:14:12,986
- Don't start yelling at me.

472
00:14:13,053 --> 00:14:14,588
- First of all, Gary,
it's not in your face.

473
00:14:14,655 --> 00:14:16,557
She's six feet apart.
Relax.

474
00:14:16,623 --> 00:14:17,791
- Damn.

475
00:14:17,858 --> 00:14:19,693
- Everything that you do
is for television.

476
00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:20,928
- No, it's not.

477
00:14:20,994 --> 00:14:22,696
- Done.
both: Done.

478
00:14:22,763 --> 00:14:24,231
[laughs]
- Jesus.

479
00:14:24,298 --> 00:14:25,899
- Everything that he does
is for television.

480
00:14:25,966 --> 00:14:27,134
I'm out.
- Bye.

481
00:14:27,201 --> 00:14:28,635
- Bye.
- OK, OK.

482
00:14:28,702 --> 00:14:30,504
- Here we go again.
- Yeah, here we go.

483
00:14:30,571 --> 00:14:33,273
- It's always the same thing.

484
00:14:33,340 --> 00:14:36,043
So how do you feel
like you make progress?

485
00:14:36,109 --> 00:14:37,811
- Live your life,
and by the way--

486
00:14:37,878 --> 00:14:38,979
- Here we go.

487
00:14:39,046 --> 00:14:40,080
- Your first-class ticket
coming back,

488
00:14:40,147 --> 00:14:40,948
you're not [bleep]
sitting with me.

489
00:14:41,014 --> 00:14:42,249
- That's fine.

490
00:14:42,316 --> 00:14:44,251
- Girl--give it to me, girl.
- Peace out.

491
00:14:44,318 --> 00:14:45,452
- 'Cause they be
in the first class.

492
00:14:45,519 --> 00:14:46,820
- I'ma sit by myself
in first class.

493
00:14:46,887 --> 00:14:49,122
- You can't use me for [bleep]
for the rest...

494
00:14:49,189 --> 00:14:50,457
- All right.

495
00:14:50,524 --> 00:14:51,625
- Of your [bleep] life
and for your money.

496
00:14:51,692 --> 00:14:52,860
- It's always
somebody using her.

497
00:14:52,926 --> 00:14:55,162
- How do you have
your money today, Gary?

498
00:14:55,229 --> 00:14:56,230
- All because of you,
thank you.

499
00:14:56,296 --> 00:14:57,531
- How do you have
your money today?

500
00:14:57,598 --> 00:14:58,599
- Because of you, thank you.
- Please tell me.

501
00:14:58,665 --> 00:15:00,133
- Hey, bye.

502
00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:01,602
- Seriously,
answer the question!

503
00:15:01,668 --> 00:15:02,936
- I said thank you,
thank you so much.

504
00:15:03,003 --> 00:15:04,438
- You're welcome.

505
00:15:04,505 --> 00:15:05,606
- Thank you so much for
everything you've done for me.

506
00:15:05,672 --> 00:15:06,607
I appreciate it.
- You're welcome.

507
00:15:06,673 --> 00:15:08,809
- You're welcome.
- [laughs]

508
00:15:08,876 --> 00:15:09,977
[laughter]

509
00:15:10,043 --> 00:15:11,111
- Gary's--but this is Gary.

510
00:15:11,178 --> 00:15:12,412
Like, he's not
a confrontational,

511
00:15:12,479 --> 00:15:13,747
argumentative person.

512
00:15:13,814 --> 00:15:16,183
- Listen, he could keep
making his money off me.

513
00:15:16,250 --> 00:15:17,551
This is ridiculous.

514
00:15:17,618 --> 00:15:18,585
- Here comes Larry.

515
00:15:18,652 --> 00:15:20,454
- Mm, Larry, pay me more.

516
00:15:20,521 --> 00:15:23,156
- You know damn well
that Gary only does this

517
00:15:23,223 --> 00:15:24,992
when we have screens.

518
00:15:25,058 --> 00:15:26,326
I'm done.

519
00:15:26,393 --> 00:15:28,262
- Goodbye, leave.
- Ooh.

520
00:15:28,328 --> 00:15:29,363
- Ooh.
- Kristina ready.

521
00:15:29,429 --> 00:15:30,430
- Kristina ain't
gonna do nothing.

522
00:15:30,497 --> 00:15:31,865
- No, she's not.

523
00:15:31,932 --> 00:15:33,233
Kristina, you want
to keep secrets from me?

524
00:15:33,300 --> 00:15:34,268
I'm the mother.

525
00:15:34,334 --> 00:15:35,369
<i>I would have just liked</i>

526
00:15:35,435 --> 00:15:36,870
<i>to know</i>
<i>that she was even going.</i>

527
00:15:36,937 --> 00:15:39,072
That would have been nice.
- Oh, [bleep].

528
00:15:39,139 --> 00:15:40,340
- To be continued.

529
00:15:44,645 --> 00:15:46,680
- What have you drawn?
You haven't drawn anything.

530
00:15:46,747 --> 00:15:49,249
- I have.
- Did you rip it out?

531
00:15:49,316 --> 00:15:51,185
Oh, is this an ice cream cone?

532
00:15:51,251 --> 00:15:52,519
- Yeah.

533
00:15:52,586 --> 00:15:53,987
- I could tell right away.

534
00:15:54,054 --> 00:15:56,623
Very good.
- Ice cream.

535
00:15:56,690 --> 00:15:58,192
- Can you get me a marker?

536
00:15:58,258 --> 00:15:59,593
- Yeah.

537
00:15:59,660 --> 00:16:03,463
- Watch me draw
my favorite thing in the world.

538
00:16:03,530 --> 00:16:04,731
It's a Christmas tree.

539
00:16:04,798 --> 00:16:07,768
- Oh, Christmas tree.

540
00:16:07,835 --> 00:16:10,671
- Ho, ho, ho, little girl.

541
00:16:10,737 --> 00:16:12,739
And Merry Christmas!

542
00:16:12,806 --> 00:16:15,275
- I like Santa Claus.

543
00:16:15,342 --> 00:16:16,543
- See what's up.

544
00:16:16,610 --> 00:16:18,078
- Kristina, I'm the mother.

545
00:16:18,145 --> 00:16:19,813
I would have just liked to
know that she was even going.

546
00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:21,148
That would have been nice.

547
00:16:21,215 --> 00:16:22,549
- Oh, she's talking
to Kristina.

548
00:16:22,616 --> 00:16:26,220
- Just think about
if that was your daughter.

549
00:16:26,286 --> 00:16:28,021
You know,
just think about that.

550
00:16:28,088 --> 00:16:30,257
- Why doesn't she say
anything on camera?

551
00:16:30,324 --> 00:16:32,125
- Hold on,
let's see what she say.

552
00:16:32,192 --> 00:16:35,195
- I think that, you know,
Kristina knew it,

553
00:16:35,262 --> 00:16:37,531
this whole big thing,
it was gonna blow with Amber.

554
00:16:37,598 --> 00:16:39,032
- Yeah.
- She knows.

555
00:16:39,099 --> 00:16:41,535
And it's just--I think
that she's so hurt by all this.

556
00:16:41,602 --> 00:16:45,272
And she knows
that she has to stay back

557
00:16:45,339 --> 00:16:48,175
and not be a part of this
between Amber and Gary.

558
00:16:48,242 --> 00:16:50,577
- Can you imagine
how difficult that would be?

559
00:16:50,644 --> 00:16:52,312
- I don't know any therapist
in the world

560
00:16:52,379 --> 00:16:53,647
that would sit there and say,

561
00:16:53,714 --> 00:16:55,382
"Don't tell the mother
that your daughter--"

562
00:16:55,449 --> 00:16:56,850
- True.
- Especially ten times.

563
00:16:56,917 --> 00:16:58,051
- Yes.
- Come on.

564
00:16:58,118 --> 00:16:59,786
- Take yourself
out of the equation.

565
00:16:59,853 --> 00:17:01,088
Go home, Amber.

566
00:17:01,154 --> 00:17:03,123
- Just calm down, girl.
Breathe.

567
00:17:03,190 --> 00:17:05,058
- Yeah, her feelings
are very much hurt.

568
00:17:05,125 --> 00:17:06,593
- I'm bringing everybody in.

569
00:17:06,660 --> 00:17:10,697
- Aw, [bleep],
bringing everybody in?

570
00:17:10,764 --> 00:17:12,332
Mother[bleep].

571
00:17:12,399 --> 00:17:14,168
- She don't give a [bleep].

572
00:17:14,234 --> 00:17:15,836
- She's over it.
- She's really--

573
00:17:15,903 --> 00:17:17,137
- She's [bleep] pissed.

574
00:17:17,204 --> 00:17:19,473
- Kristina, we spoke backstage.

575
00:17:19,540 --> 00:17:21,041
And I thought
it was important to get

576
00:17:21,108 --> 00:17:22,709
Mom's point of views, right?

577
00:17:22,776 --> 00:17:24,077
You get that feeling.

578
00:17:24,144 --> 00:17:26,480
- So as a mother, I mean,
yes, the communication,

579
00:17:26,547 --> 00:17:27,848
you know, should be open.

580
00:17:27,915 --> 00:17:29,683
- OK, this could go two ways.

581
00:17:29,750 --> 00:17:31,418
- Why do I feel like she's
about to cry or something?

582
00:17:31,485 --> 00:17:32,553
- Mm-hmm.

583
00:17:32,619 --> 00:17:34,555
- She's just like,
ripped to shreds.

584
00:17:34,621 --> 00:17:36,723
- But I'm kind of like,
mixed in the middle.

585
00:17:36,790 --> 00:17:38,058
- I know.

586
00:17:38,125 --> 00:17:40,961
- Because I know
how Leah has asked, you know,

587
00:17:41,028 --> 00:17:43,564
because she wanted to work
on the relationship with you.

588
00:17:43,630 --> 00:17:47,835
I think she wanted you
not to know, so that way,

589
00:17:47,901 --> 00:17:50,137
when she came back to you,

590
00:17:50,204 --> 00:17:53,674
that it was a lot
of progress on her part.

591
00:17:53,740 --> 00:17:55,042
- I'm on Kristina's side.

592
00:17:55,108 --> 00:17:57,978
- When Nova tells
Devoin something

593
00:17:58,045 --> 00:17:58,946
and he don't tell you...

594
00:17:59,012 --> 00:18:00,447
- Ooh.

595
00:18:00,514 --> 00:18:01,915
- How the [bleep] you gonna
deal with that [bleep]?

596
00:18:01,982 --> 00:18:03,183
You're not gonna like it.
- It's different.

597
00:18:03,250 --> 00:18:04,484
- And you know you won't.

598
00:18:04,551 --> 00:18:06,053
- It's different
because I'm the main provider.

599
00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:07,521
- No, it doesn't matter.
- It's different.

600
00:18:07,588 --> 00:18:08,822
It's different.

601
00:18:08,889 --> 00:18:11,291
If Leah told Amber something
and was like,

602
00:18:11,358 --> 00:18:13,861
"Don't tell Gary,"
Amber's not saying [bleep].

603
00:18:13,927 --> 00:18:15,863
- No, you, Devoin is
going to tell you [bleep].

604
00:18:15,929 --> 00:18:17,130
- Nope.

605
00:18:17,197 --> 00:18:18,265
- He's gonna
tell you everything.

606
00:18:18,332 --> 00:18:19,233
- Nope.
Amber will keep a secret.

607
00:18:19,299 --> 00:18:20,434
- You want Devoin to tell you.

608
00:18:20,501 --> 00:18:21,301
- And so would Devoin,
keep a secret.

609
00:18:21,368 --> 00:18:22,402
I'd be--mm-mm, mm-mm.

610
00:18:22,469 --> 00:18:24,104
- I low key
was on Amber's side.

611
00:18:24,171 --> 00:18:25,472
But, like,
if Devoin did that to you,

612
00:18:25,539 --> 00:18:26,773
I'd be like,
yo, he's getting jumped.

613
00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,342
- Yes.

614
00:18:28,408 --> 00:18:30,344
- Hey, Kristina got patience.

615
00:18:30,410 --> 00:18:32,312
- 'Cause if I was
in Kristina's shoes,

616
00:18:32,379 --> 00:18:33,914
I wouldn't like Amber.

617
00:18:33,981 --> 00:18:35,716
And if I was in Amber shoes--
- You wouldn't like Kristina?

618
00:18:35,782 --> 00:18:36,984
- I wouldn't like Kristina.

619
00:18:37,050 --> 00:18:39,086
- Be ready to box
every opportunity you get.

620
00:18:39,152 --> 00:18:40,354
- So I think I understand.

621
00:18:40,420 --> 00:18:42,089
And I think they're
doing the best they can,

622
00:18:42,155 --> 00:18:43,490
considering the circumstance.

623
00:18:43,557 --> 00:18:44,825
And I think
it's a little harder

624
00:18:44,892 --> 00:18:47,227
because that relationship
with her child is broken.

625
00:18:47,294 --> 00:18:49,663
Now, if her child and her
had a strong relationship...

626
00:18:49,730 --> 00:18:51,064
- It would be a lot
different, probably.

627
00:18:51,131 --> 00:18:51,999
- It wouldn't be no problem
with Kristina.

628
00:18:52,065 --> 00:18:53,200
- Right.

629
00:18:53,267 --> 00:18:54,067
- 'Cause Kristina's
a good girl.

630
00:18:54,134 --> 00:18:55,536
- OK.

631
00:18:55,602 --> 00:18:57,671
- But I mean, like,
in my opinion, as a mother,

632
00:18:57,738 --> 00:19:00,007
there's nothing
that should be going on

633
00:19:00,073 --> 00:19:01,675
that the other parent
is not telling me.

634
00:19:01,742 --> 00:19:05,045
I don't give a good goddamn...
both: Googley-moogley.

635
00:19:05,112 --> 00:19:06,380
What it is--
- I knew it was coming.

636
00:19:06,446 --> 00:19:08,749
- I need to know.
- [laughs]

637
00:19:08,815 --> 00:19:12,119
- Saying it that way
is completely different.

638
00:19:12,186 --> 00:19:14,121
- Gary has not said a word.

639
00:19:14,188 --> 00:19:16,790
- But if that's
the way that Leah felt,

640
00:19:16,857 --> 00:19:19,793
that this was a safe place--

641
00:19:19,860 --> 00:19:21,995
- She was fine,
in case things were brought up.

642
00:19:22,062 --> 00:19:23,397
I checked with her.

643
00:19:23,463 --> 00:19:24,698
It wasn't just
about being a safe place.

644
00:19:24,765 --> 00:19:26,400
It was
that she was OK sharing it.

645
00:19:26,466 --> 00:19:28,068
- But why did you wait to say
it till we were on camera?

646
00:19:28,135 --> 00:19:29,169
On the stage?

647
00:19:29,236 --> 00:19:30,637
- Yeah, I don't
appreciate that.

648
00:19:30,704 --> 00:19:31,939
- Sometimes we don't want
to hear it for the first time

649
00:19:32,005 --> 00:19:33,040
on camera either.

650
00:19:33,106 --> 00:19:34,174
- I agree.
I understand.

651
00:19:34,241 --> 00:19:35,642
- You know what I mean?

652
00:19:35,709 --> 00:19:38,345
Let's say this in private
and then take it to the stage.

653
00:19:38,412 --> 00:19:40,247
You know?
- I agree with that as well.

654
00:19:40,314 --> 00:19:42,549
- You got to understand,
she is young.

655
00:19:42,616 --> 00:19:44,251
And she doesn't know
how friends will react

656
00:19:44,318 --> 00:19:45,619
knowing about stuff like this.

657
00:19:45,686 --> 00:19:47,387
- They're also old enough
to where they're seeing

658
00:19:47,454 --> 00:19:48,822
[bleep] on TV, like...

659
00:19:48,889 --> 00:19:50,557
- Yeah.

660
00:19:50,624 --> 00:19:52,860
- Now, that's another aspect
I didn't think about.

661
00:19:52,926 --> 00:19:54,194
- Not at all.

662
00:19:54,261 --> 00:19:55,495
- Now, earlier in this season,

663
00:19:55,562 --> 00:19:57,197
it felt like there
was some tension

664
00:19:57,264 --> 00:19:59,066
between Amber and Kristina.

665
00:19:59,132 --> 00:20:00,501
- Yeah, she called Kristina

666
00:20:00,567 --> 00:20:01,902
"homewrecking whore"
on Instagram Live.

667
00:20:01,969 --> 00:20:03,770
- On Instagram Live,
went live and called her...

668
00:20:03,837 --> 00:20:05,172
both: A homewrecking whore.

669
00:20:05,239 --> 00:20:06,974
- So that's what
caused a little riffle.

670
00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,475
- A little razzle dazzle.

671
00:20:08,542 --> 00:20:10,210
- Yes.
- How are things today?

672
00:20:10,277 --> 00:20:14,014
- I love Kristina,
and I respect her today.

673
00:20:14,081 --> 00:20:16,049
- Aw, that's good to hear.

674
00:20:16,116 --> 00:20:17,117
- Because she
is helping take care--

675
00:20:17,184 --> 00:20:17,985
- Yeah,
she's doing a great job.

676
00:20:18,051 --> 00:20:19,486
- Yeah, she is.

677
00:20:19,553 --> 00:20:21,054
At the end of the day,
the common denominator is Leah.

678
00:20:21,121 --> 00:20:22,489
They need to do
what's best for her.

679
00:20:22,556 --> 00:20:24,124
All that other [bleep]
don't even matter.

680
00:20:24,191 --> 00:20:26,660
- I am gonna say the truth.

681
00:20:26,727 --> 00:20:30,697
But if I have kids,
it's OK for me to do it to you,

682
00:20:30,764 --> 00:20:33,934
but you absolutely better not
[bleep] do it to me.

683
00:20:34,001 --> 00:20:34,935
- You can never
win this battle.

684
00:20:35,002 --> 00:20:36,170
I don't know.

685
00:20:36,236 --> 00:20:37,404
- You know,
raising kids is hard.

686
00:20:37,471 --> 00:20:39,072
It's hard.
- I'm confused.

687
00:20:39,139 --> 00:20:40,140
- And that's why
I don't have none.

688
00:20:40,207 --> 00:20:41,441
- I'm stuck.
I'm torn.

689
00:20:41,508 --> 00:20:43,677
- You're on my side.
You literally are me.

690
00:20:43,744 --> 00:20:45,479
You are saying that
I'm going to do it to you,

691
00:20:45,546 --> 00:20:47,181
but you better not
[bleep] do it to me.

692
00:20:47,247 --> 00:20:48,715
That's literally--and it's OK.

693
00:20:48,782 --> 00:20:50,684
It's OK to be a double
standard in that case.

694
00:20:50,751 --> 00:20:53,420
Because I don't give a [bleep].
You're the mom.

695
00:20:53,487 --> 00:20:55,222
You birthed that [bleep] baby.
- Yeah, that's right.

696
00:20:55,289 --> 00:20:57,758
- Do what you want.
- You have more points.

697
00:20:57,824 --> 00:20:59,092
- Purr.
- [sighs]

698
00:20:59,159 --> 00:21:00,360
I'm stressed.

699
00:21:04,531 --> 00:21:06,200
<i>- Look, watch.</i>
<i>- Let me get a turn.</i>

700
00:21:06,266 --> 00:21:07,568
- Watch, let me show you
how you're supposed to.

701
00:21:07,634 --> 00:21:09,069
- Wait, wait, wait.
- It's all about geometry.

702
00:21:09,136 --> 00:21:10,737
It's about how you--
the angle that--

703
00:21:10,804 --> 00:21:12,306
- Oh, geez,
here he comes with his--

704
00:21:12,372 --> 00:21:13,774
- That you go in.

705
00:21:13,841 --> 00:21:15,108
- When I bite into it,
the juice is still gonna drip.

706
00:21:15,175 --> 00:21:16,777
- That's why the cup
goes under your chin.

707
00:21:16,844 --> 00:21:19,513
[laughter]

708
00:21:19,580 --> 00:21:22,749
OK, ready, one, two, three.

709
00:21:22,816 --> 00:21:25,285
- Or you eat the whole thing.

710
00:21:25,352 --> 00:21:27,421
- We're back
with the "Teen Mom OG" reunion.

711
00:21:27,487 --> 00:21:29,256
Speaking to us now is Cheyenne.

712
00:21:29,323 --> 00:21:30,657
- Whoo-whoo!

713
00:21:30,724 --> 00:21:32,392
- Ooh, I like that dress.

714
00:21:32,459 --> 00:21:34,595
- Cheyenne's dress reminds me
of hot air balloon.

715
00:21:34,661 --> 00:21:36,530
- That's [bleep] up.
- It's not.

716
00:21:36,597 --> 00:21:37,698
You never seen
a hot air balloon?

717
00:21:37,764 --> 00:21:39,199
- Yes.

718
00:21:39,266 --> 00:21:40,501
- They be having the designs
like that on top of it.

719
00:21:40,567 --> 00:21:41,969
- Oh, oh, OK.
- What?

720
00:21:42,035 --> 00:21:43,437
- The way it came up,
was like, that's [bleep] up.

721
00:21:43,504 --> 00:21:44,905
- I'm not saying she reminds me
of a hot air balloon.

722
00:21:44,972 --> 00:21:46,373
- No, I'm saying the outfit.
- No, like--

723
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:47,674
- Like, the way it came
out was like, what?

724
00:21:47,741 --> 00:21:49,209
- No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

725
00:21:49,276 --> 00:21:50,777
- You don't be like,
oh damn, your outfit

726
00:21:50,844 --> 00:21:51,879
look like a hot air balloon.

727
00:21:51,945 --> 00:21:53,347
They'd be like, aw, thank you.

728
00:21:53,413 --> 00:21:55,182
They'd be like, what?
- I'm not talking about shape.

729
00:21:55,249 --> 00:21:56,717
- I know.
- I'm talking about stripes.

730
00:21:56,783 --> 00:21:59,186
- You were in labor
for 32 hours?

731
00:21:59,253 --> 00:22:00,487
- Damn!

732
00:22:00,554 --> 00:22:02,089
- When you're that miserable,
you don't--

733
00:22:02,155 --> 00:22:04,791
you want everybody else to be
as miserable as you are.

734
00:22:04,858 --> 00:22:06,393
[laughter]

735
00:22:06,460 --> 00:22:08,762
- That's very true.

736
00:22:08,829 --> 00:22:11,431
- What'd I tell you?
Don't touch me.

737
00:22:11,498 --> 00:22:13,166
Don't talk to me.

738
00:22:13,233 --> 00:22:15,502
- How's co-parenting
nowadays with Corey?

739
00:22:15,569 --> 00:22:18,438
- My biggest thing with Ryder,
right now is,

740
00:22:18,505 --> 00:22:21,875
I don't want her to feel
like she's not stable.

741
00:22:21,942 --> 00:22:23,844
- Yeah, that's hard.

742
00:22:23,911 --> 00:22:25,145
- Where she sees, like,
Mila gets to stay

743
00:22:25,212 --> 00:22:26,980
with her mommy and daddy
all week.

744
00:22:27,047 --> 00:22:29,483
And Ace stays
with her mommy and daddy.

745
00:22:29,550 --> 00:22:33,020
And she's the one
who's kind of bouncing around.

746
00:22:33,086 --> 00:22:36,456
- Co-parenting is
so [bleep] complicated.

747
00:22:36,523 --> 00:22:37,558
- Yeah.

748
00:22:37,624 --> 00:22:38,759
- Yeah, so Jenelle, you know,

749
00:22:38,825 --> 00:22:43,096
she has different fathers
to her kids.

750
00:22:43,163 --> 00:22:44,264
- Mm-hmm.

751
00:22:44,331 --> 00:22:46,733
- So you know,
Ensley now is five.

752
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,536
And she, she says,
why am I the one

753
00:22:49,603 --> 00:22:51,405
who's always got to stay home?

754
00:22:51,471 --> 00:22:54,641
And she's like,
Kaiser goes to Tennessee.

755
00:22:54,708 --> 00:22:56,710
Jace goes back to Meme's.

756
00:22:56,777 --> 00:22:59,213
And why do I always
have to stay home?

757
00:22:59,279 --> 00:23:01,949
- Is that almost
like Addie in a way?

758
00:23:02,015 --> 00:23:04,384
- I think Addie questioned,
like, "Why are my sisters

759
00:23:04,451 --> 00:23:08,355
"going to their dad's
and I'm not going to my dad's?"

760
00:23:08,422 --> 00:23:09,489
But that was it.

761
00:23:09,556 --> 00:23:11,091
But her dad also
worked out of town.

762
00:23:11,158 --> 00:23:13,460
But I think
they do a great job too.

763
00:23:13,527 --> 00:23:14,962
- Yeah.

764
00:23:15,028 --> 00:23:18,465
- These young girls,
they all have two or three

765
00:23:18,532 --> 00:23:19,867
different baby daddies.

766
00:23:19,933 --> 00:23:22,135
- Mm.
- So it's just common to them.

767
00:23:22,202 --> 00:23:25,806
They have these kids
like they're puppies.

768
00:23:25,873 --> 00:23:28,008
They're crazy.

769
00:23:28,075 --> 00:23:31,044
- Everyone,
please welcome Cory.

770
00:23:31,111 --> 00:23:32,679
- Cory with the A$AP braids.

771
00:23:32,746 --> 00:23:35,082
- Cory, it's great to see you.
- That suit's fresh.

772
00:23:35,148 --> 00:23:36,750
- It's good to be here.
- He swear.

773
00:23:36,817 --> 00:23:38,018
- He swears.
- He does.

774
00:23:38,085 --> 00:23:39,319
- He swears.
- He swears he's something.

775
00:23:39,386 --> 00:23:41,488
- Cory just swears.
- He is kinda cute.

776
00:23:41,555 --> 00:23:43,790
- Shut up.
- Girl!

777
00:23:43,857 --> 00:23:46,093
Don't give him--
don't get his head big.

778
00:23:46,159 --> 00:23:48,428
- But both
of her baby dads are cute.

779
00:23:48,495 --> 00:23:49,596
- Yeah.

780
00:23:49,663 --> 00:23:51,932
I mean,
I like Zach's personality.

781
00:23:51,999 --> 00:23:53,567
- You guys know
it wouldn't be a reunion

782
00:23:53,634 --> 00:23:55,602
without me getting emotional,
talking about my kids.

783
00:23:55,669 --> 00:23:56,970
- Are you about to cry?

784
00:23:57,037 --> 00:23:58,172
- I'm not crying yet.
I'm getting there.

785
00:23:58,238 --> 00:24:00,507
- Oh, my bad.
- What the [bleep]?

786
00:24:00,574 --> 00:24:03,377
- I cannot deal with Cory.

787
00:24:03,443 --> 00:24:05,345
He's something else.
- I love being a father.

788
00:24:05,412 --> 00:24:07,481
I'ma have a whole village
by the time I'm done.

789
00:24:07,548 --> 00:24:08,615
- Oh, wait.

790
00:24:08,682 --> 00:24:10,050
- I'm just gonna
have tons of babies

791
00:24:10,117 --> 00:24:11,818
because I love being a dad,
so...

792
00:24:11,885 --> 00:24:13,854
- [laughs]
- OK, OK, wait.

793
00:24:13,921 --> 00:24:16,123
- We don't need
to have a whole village,

794
00:24:16,190 --> 00:24:18,325
but he's a good dad.

795
00:24:18,392 --> 00:24:20,093
- Are there talks
about more babies?

796
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:21,628
- You know, thanks to Cheyenne,

797
00:24:21,695 --> 00:24:23,564
she's put the heat
on the back of my neck.

798
00:24:23,630 --> 00:24:24,898
Thank you to Zach.

799
00:24:24,965 --> 00:24:25,966
He just put the heat
on the back of my neck.

800
00:24:26,033 --> 00:24:27,467
- Hold on.

801
00:24:27,534 --> 00:24:28,702
We did not put the heat on
you guys having more kids.

802
00:24:28,769 --> 00:24:30,103
We put heat on--

803
00:24:30,170 --> 00:24:32,906
- Oh, you see
Cheyenne got married.

804
00:24:32,973 --> 00:24:34,741
You see Cheyenne got a dog.

805
00:24:34,808 --> 00:24:35,776
[laughter]

806
00:24:35,843 --> 00:24:37,044
- I don't know.

807
00:24:37,110 --> 00:24:39,012
I feel like he
just tried to make it seem

808
00:24:39,079 --> 00:24:40,647
like Taylor was
jealous or something.

809
00:24:40,714 --> 00:24:42,416
Cheyenne got a dog.

810
00:24:42,482 --> 00:24:44,151
Cheyenne got a ring.

811
00:24:44,218 --> 00:24:45,853
Why you playing
Taylor out like that?

812
00:24:45,919 --> 00:24:47,955
- [laughs]
- Oh, no.

813
00:24:48,021 --> 00:24:49,456
That came off weird to me.

814
00:24:49,523 --> 00:24:51,358
I wouldn't want my dude
to say that about me.

815
00:24:51,425 --> 00:24:55,128
Because I ain't watching
nobody else timeline, baby.

816
00:24:55,195 --> 00:24:56,563
- To the world
out there, listen.

817
00:24:56,630 --> 00:24:58,298
I'm not worried
about getting married.

818
00:24:58,365 --> 00:24:59,666
- We know you ain't worried
about getting married.

819
00:24:59,733 --> 00:25:01,001
- We know.
- [laughs]

820
00:25:01,068 --> 00:25:02,536
- He don't want to marry her.

821
00:25:02,603 --> 00:25:04,071
- Goddamn, y'all.

822
00:25:04,137 --> 00:25:05,873
- Taylor, I love you.

823
00:25:05,939 --> 00:25:07,774
Don't worry.
Your ring is coming.

824
00:25:07,841 --> 00:25:09,443
Don't listen to these people.

825
00:25:09,510 --> 00:25:11,645
It will come
when the time is right.

826
00:25:11,712 --> 00:25:13,146
Love you.

827
00:25:13,213 --> 00:25:17,117
- Well, personally,
I have been a big advocate of,

828
00:25:17,184 --> 00:25:19,920
like, don't compare
our relationship.

829
00:25:19,987 --> 00:25:21,455
- Mm-hmm?

830
00:25:21,522 --> 00:25:23,290
- Because you can never compare
yourself to anybody else

831
00:25:23,357 --> 00:25:25,125
because you don't know
what they're going through.

832
00:25:25,192 --> 00:25:27,060
- I hope that she don't
feel like that she has

833
00:25:27,127 --> 00:25:28,595
to compete all the time,
you know what I mean?

834
00:25:28,662 --> 00:25:30,631
Because that would be--
you know, or just feel--

835
00:25:30,697 --> 00:25:31,965
- Their relationship
is not her relationship.

836
00:25:32,032 --> 00:25:33,333
So like--
- Yeah, but I just feel like--

837
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:34,701
- Two different families,
two different lives,

838
00:25:34,768 --> 00:25:36,003
two different situations.

839
00:25:36,069 --> 00:25:37,371
But when you're living
and co-parenting...

840
00:25:37,437 --> 00:25:38,572
- But she did.
- You're always comparing.

841
00:25:38,639 --> 00:25:40,107
- She got that baby
from his ass.

842
00:25:40,174 --> 00:25:41,275
They just had another one,
didn't they?

843
00:25:41,341 --> 00:25:43,043
So...
[laughter]

844
00:25:43,110 --> 00:25:44,912
- It's almost too good
to be true.

845
00:25:44,978 --> 00:25:46,146
[laughs]

846
00:25:46,213 --> 00:25:47,881
How 'bout more babies,
but I don't know

847
00:25:47,948 --> 00:25:49,082
about marriage just yet.

848
00:25:49,149 --> 00:25:50,217
- Welcome back.

849
00:25:50,284 --> 00:25:51,518
We've been talking
with Cheyenne.

850
00:25:51,585 --> 00:25:55,289
And now we're joined
by her fiancé, Zach.

851
00:25:55,355 --> 00:25:58,125
- He looks like he's attending
his wedding right now.

852
00:25:58,192 --> 00:26:00,127
- Yeah.
- Am I right?

853
00:26:00,194 --> 00:26:02,496
- What's with
the bow tie, Zach?

854
00:26:02,563 --> 00:26:05,199
- This year was a year
Cheyenne will never forget,

855
00:26:05,265 --> 00:26:07,100
including some
big fights with Zach.

856
00:26:07,167 --> 00:26:08,936
- My favorite scene, y'all.
- Oh.

857
00:26:09,002 --> 00:26:10,838
[laughter]

858
00:26:10,904 --> 00:26:12,306
- Made his ass
take a Uber home.

859
00:26:12,372 --> 00:26:13,740
- I was a good pregnant person.

860
00:26:13,807 --> 00:26:16,276
I feel like I got a bad rap
from this season.

861
00:26:16,343 --> 00:26:18,111
- No, you didn't, boo.

862
00:26:18,178 --> 00:26:20,380
- No, girl, your hormones
were off the hook.

863
00:26:20,447 --> 00:26:21,982
- Tell 'em, I was fine.
- You were.

864
00:26:22,049 --> 00:26:23,283
You were great.
- Tell 'em.

865
00:26:23,350 --> 00:26:25,052
Tell 'em now.
- Tell him.

866
00:26:25,118 --> 00:26:26,353
Tell him what I
told you in the car.

867
00:26:26,420 --> 00:26:27,654
- You want Zach to co-sign it.

868
00:26:27,721 --> 00:26:28,889
[laughs]

869
00:26:28,956 --> 00:26:29,890
- Really hormonal,
but you were great.

870
00:26:29,957 --> 00:26:31,291
- No!

871
00:26:31,358 --> 00:26:32,960
- Really hormonal,
but you were great.

872
00:26:33,026 --> 00:26:34,394
- He's saying it with a grin.

873
00:26:34,461 --> 00:26:36,463
- She did blow up
on him in the car.

874
00:26:36,530 --> 00:26:37,965
[laughs]

875
00:26:38,031 --> 00:26:40,000
I said, my dude, Zach,
he better have Uber downloaded.

876
00:26:40,067 --> 00:26:41,435
- Right.

877
00:26:41,502 --> 00:26:43,270
Already have it on order,
on the screen.

878
00:26:43,337 --> 00:26:44,638
- 'Cause he look like he
was a ways away from home.

879
00:26:44,705 --> 00:26:47,241
He had to click them
mother[bleep] heels.

880
00:26:47,307 --> 00:26:48,408
- Ch-ch.

881
00:26:48,475 --> 00:26:49,910
- Get to it,
the way she left his ass.

882
00:26:49,977 --> 00:26:51,945
[laughter]

883
00:26:52,012 --> 00:26:54,414
- On a scale of one to ten,
how nervous were you...

884
00:26:54,481 --> 00:26:56,283
- Oh.
- Before the proposal.

885
00:26:56,350 --> 00:26:57,918
- He proposed to her.

886
00:26:57,985 --> 00:26:59,720
Put a blindfold on and then,
like, asked her to marry him,

887
00:26:59,786 --> 00:27:01,755
like, at the baby sprinkle
in front of the whole family.

888
00:27:01,822 --> 00:27:04,324
And then gave Ryder a ring too.
- Oh, that's sweet.

889
00:27:04,391 --> 00:27:06,059
- I'm not just
committing to her.

890
00:27:06,126 --> 00:27:07,427
I'm coming to Ryder as well.

891
00:27:07,494 --> 00:27:08,929
- Period,
and you better know it,

892
00:27:08,996 --> 00:27:12,599
or we gon' bust your tires
and bust your windows, Zach.

893
00:27:13,300 --> 00:27:16,270
- There was some seriousness
in that comment.

894
00:27:16,336 --> 00:27:18,205
- 'Cause I was dead-ass.

895
00:27:18,272 --> 00:27:21,642
- If you ask Ryder,
she says we got proposed to.

896
00:27:21,708 --> 00:27:25,078
[laughter]

897
00:27:25,145 --> 00:27:27,014
- Well, we can't wait
to see this wedding.

898
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,182
I'm sure it's going
to be amazing.

899
00:27:28,248 --> 00:27:30,517
I hope it's everything
you both wanted.

900
00:27:30,584 --> 00:27:32,953
- Can't wait.
I'ma be at the wedding, ready.

901
00:27:33,020 --> 00:27:34,955
You coming to the wedding?
- Yes, I told you that.

902
00:27:35,022 --> 00:27:36,290
- We invited.

903
00:27:36,356 --> 00:27:37,758
I can't wait to see it either,

904
00:27:37,824 --> 00:27:39,126
but it's gonna be so much fun.

905
00:27:39,193 --> 00:27:40,928
- I just gave my RSVP.

906
00:27:40,994 --> 00:27:42,563
And I chose the steak.

907
00:27:42,629 --> 00:27:44,464
- Uh-huh.

908
00:27:44,531 --> 00:27:46,366
Medium rare.

909
00:27:50,671 --> 00:27:52,506
- I kind of remember
the first reunion.

910
00:27:52,573 --> 00:27:53,674
It was a long time ago.

911
00:27:53,740 --> 00:27:55,876
The one thing
that I will never forget

912
00:27:55,943 --> 00:28:01,515
is I let the hairdresser,
the hair people, do my hair.

913
00:28:01,582 --> 00:28:04,585
And in those days, I used
to wear my hair super short,

914
00:28:04,651 --> 00:28:06,353
and I used to spike it.

915
00:28:06,420 --> 00:28:08,255
And they did my hair,

916
00:28:08,322 --> 00:28:13,260
and I came out
with a damn poodle hair.

917
00:28:13,327 --> 00:28:15,696
You know like old ladies,
when they go to the--

918
00:28:15,762 --> 00:28:17,664
- Oh, my God.
- The hairdresser.

919
00:28:17,731 --> 00:28:19,900
- The blue hairs?
- No, and they get perms.

920
00:28:19,967 --> 00:28:22,436
- Yeah, they had blue--
we called them blue hairs.

921
00:28:22,503 --> 00:28:23,871
- Yeah, they put perm--

922
00:28:23,937 --> 00:28:25,939
so they used a curling iron.

923
00:28:26,006 --> 00:28:27,207
And they rolled up all my hair.

924
00:28:27,274 --> 00:28:29,176
They're all like--
I look like a little--

925
00:28:29,243 --> 00:28:30,577
- That's horrible.
- Old grandmother.

926
00:28:30,644 --> 00:28:32,045
- I said,
holy [bleep], man.

927
00:28:32,112 --> 00:28:35,382
And I'm like a hip grandma.

928
00:28:35,449 --> 00:28:37,251
I kept my spiky hair.

929
00:28:37,317 --> 00:28:38,785
And they made me look
like that.

930
00:28:38,852 --> 00:28:39,953
- Oh, that's horrible.

931
00:28:40,020 --> 00:28:41,722
I would have shaved
my head first.

932
00:28:41,788 --> 00:28:44,858
<i>[upbeat music]</i>

933
00:28:44,925 --> 00:28:46,860
- Welcome back to the
"Teen Mom OG" reunion.

934
00:28:46,927 --> 00:28:48,362
We're now here with Maci.

935
00:28:48,428 --> 00:28:50,130
Hi, Maci, it's nice to see you.
- Hi.

936
00:28:50,197 --> 00:28:51,765
- Oh, she looks great.
Look at her.

937
00:28:51,832 --> 00:28:53,066
So pretty.

938
00:28:53,133 --> 00:28:54,868
- Those space buns,
giving me "Star Wars."

939
00:28:54,935 --> 00:28:56,470
- She looks like
a little Teletubby

940
00:28:56,537 --> 00:28:58,238
with those knots on her head.

941
00:28:58,305 --> 00:28:59,273
- How's Bentley doing?

942
00:28:59,339 --> 00:29:01,208
- He's good.
He turns 13--

943
00:29:01,275 --> 00:29:02,309
- Oh, my God.
- Next week.

944
00:29:02,376 --> 00:29:04,645
- Damn.
- He's really growing up.

945
00:29:04,711 --> 00:29:06,446
- And how's Maverick and Jayde?

946
00:29:06,513 --> 00:29:08,115
- Wonderful.
- Cute.

947
00:29:08,182 --> 00:29:09,583
- They're my wild babies.
- Oh, wow, [bleep].

948
00:29:09,650 --> 00:29:10,918
He looks just like her.
- Yeah.

949
00:29:10,984 --> 00:29:12,452
- For real, all her kids
look so much like her.

950
00:29:12,519 --> 00:29:14,254
- They all got mullets.
- They all got mullets.

951
00:29:14,321 --> 00:29:16,123
- They all have baby mullets.
- I love it.

952
00:29:16,190 --> 00:29:18,025
I love the vibe they're giving.

953
00:29:18,091 --> 00:29:19,626
Very much punk rock.

954
00:29:19,693 --> 00:29:20,794
[laughter]

955
00:29:20,861 --> 00:29:22,129
- They're so sweet.

956
00:29:22,196 --> 00:29:23,797
Aren't they cute?
- Yeah, they are cute.

957
00:29:23,864 --> 00:29:27,734
- I have realized I have
an unhealthy relationship

958
00:29:27,801 --> 00:29:29,203
with emotions.

959
00:29:29,269 --> 00:29:31,004
- Same, girl.

960
00:29:31,071 --> 00:29:33,006
- Welcome to the world.
- Welcome to my life.

961
00:29:33,073 --> 00:29:35,475
- I realized
that when I'm alone,

962
00:29:35,542 --> 00:29:37,010
I wasn't comfortable.

963
00:29:37,077 --> 00:29:39,213
- I feel like,
if you can spend time alone

964
00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:41,081
and go out to eat at a
restaurant alone by yourself,

965
00:29:41,148 --> 00:29:42,249
like, you can do anything.

966
00:29:42,316 --> 00:29:43,784
- I don't [bleep]
around like that.

967
00:29:43,851 --> 00:29:45,085
- A lot of people--

968
00:29:45,152 --> 00:29:47,821
I like to go to dinner
and lunch by myself.

969
00:29:47,888 --> 00:29:48,989
I like to--
- Really?

970
00:29:49,056 --> 00:29:50,657
- Yes.
Table for one, please.

971
00:29:50,724 --> 00:29:52,526
- Table for one, please.

972
00:29:52,593 --> 00:29:54,127
- Yes, all this [bleep]'s mine.

973
00:29:54,194 --> 00:29:56,230
Appetizer, dinner, dessert.

974
00:29:56,296 --> 00:29:57,631
- No, there's a difference
between being alone

975
00:29:57,698 --> 00:29:58,732
and being lonely.

976
00:29:58,799 --> 00:30:00,067
- Yeah.

977
00:30:00,133 --> 00:30:02,703
- But because I
disconnected all emotions,

978
00:30:02,769 --> 00:30:04,838
I didn't know who I was.

979
00:30:04,905 --> 00:30:07,441
So it was scary.

980
00:30:07,508 --> 00:30:10,277
So I didn't feel safe alone.

981
00:30:10,344 --> 00:30:12,479
- There was a shooting incident
that happened

982
00:30:12,546 --> 00:30:14,781
where she had to use her car
as a shield at a gas station.

983
00:30:14,848 --> 00:30:16,149
She has, like,
major PTSD from it.

984
00:30:16,216 --> 00:30:19,286
People shot through glass
and everything.

985
00:30:19,353 --> 00:30:22,189
So she'd been, like, dealing
with her PTSD and stuff.

986
00:30:22,256 --> 00:30:25,926
- When did that lack
of clear identity sort of pop

987
00:30:25,993 --> 00:30:27,160
into your head?

988
00:30:27,227 --> 00:30:28,662
How did you get to that point?

989
00:30:28,729 --> 00:30:30,531
- The miscarriage.

990
00:30:30,597 --> 00:30:32,232
- Oh, she had a miscarriage.

991
00:30:32,299 --> 00:30:34,268
- Have you ever
had a miscarriage?

992
00:30:34,334 --> 00:30:35,903
- No, I never had
a miscarriage.

993
00:30:35,969 --> 00:30:37,538
- I've had two miscarriages.

994
00:30:37,604 --> 00:30:40,974
I think the biggest thing
I'd like to tell Maci is,

995
00:30:41,041 --> 00:30:45,212
not only is she enough,
but she's fabulous.

996
00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:48,515
Because you know, it takes
a person who's really looking

997
00:30:48,582 --> 00:30:51,018
inside about how they
can be a better person

998
00:30:51,084 --> 00:30:53,353
to even have those questions.

999
00:30:53,420 --> 00:30:55,789
- I mean, I didn't even
realize she was putting

1000
00:30:55,856 --> 00:30:57,124
that much pressure on herself.

1001
00:30:57,191 --> 00:30:59,893
But I think I can
definitely relate

1002
00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:02,062
to putting that much
pressure on yourself.

1003
00:31:02,129 --> 00:31:05,399
The emotions and life,
and sometimes you forget

1004
00:31:05,465 --> 00:31:06,967
to take a second
to just kind of breathe

1005
00:31:07,034 --> 00:31:08,168
and be in the moment.

1006
00:31:08,235 --> 00:31:10,137
Be in the moment.
Be present in the moment.

1007
00:31:10,204 --> 00:31:11,705
- Mm-hmm.
- Enjoy the now.

1008
00:31:11,772 --> 00:31:12,940
- Yeah.

1009
00:31:13,006 --> 00:31:14,775
- She really worked
through a lot.

1010
00:31:14,842 --> 00:31:16,176
- She's eating better.

1011
00:31:16,243 --> 00:31:19,546
She's thinking better.
She's doing better.

1012
00:31:19,613 --> 00:31:21,415
Round of applause, Maci.

1013
00:31:21,481 --> 00:31:24,218
She got herself out
of that depressing state,

1014
00:31:24,284 --> 00:31:27,087
which is hard to do,
but she's doing it.

1015
00:31:27,154 --> 00:31:30,490
- That's what happens
when you're a mother

1016
00:31:30,557 --> 00:31:32,092
with young kids.

1017
00:31:32,159 --> 00:31:33,560
- And you're
giving to the kids.

1018
00:31:33,627 --> 00:31:35,429
- And you have to take care
of these children.

1019
00:31:35,495 --> 00:31:37,130
And you have a husband,
and you have a house.

1020
00:31:37,197 --> 00:31:38,832
And you've got work,
and you've got jobs.

1021
00:31:38,899 --> 00:31:40,234
And yo, hey, oh.

1022
00:31:40,300 --> 00:31:42,069
You never take care
of yourself.

1023
00:31:42,135 --> 00:31:43,203
- And you're trying to be
superwoman, you know?

1024
00:31:43,270 --> 00:31:44,671
And you just can't do it.
- No.

1025
00:31:44,738 --> 00:31:47,241
You have to just say,
I'm gonna take care of myself.

1026
00:31:47,307 --> 00:31:48,308
- Right.

1027
00:31:48,375 --> 00:31:49,710
- We want to get Taylor
out here

1028
00:31:49,776 --> 00:31:51,445
when we talk about all this,
so welcome, Taylor.

1029
00:31:51,512 --> 00:31:52,779
[applause]

1030
00:31:52,846 --> 00:31:55,782
- Big T.
- What strong walk.

1031
00:31:55,849 --> 00:31:58,218
- Wow, he's not
wearing the [bleep] hat.

1032
00:31:58,285 --> 00:31:59,486
- Oh, my God.

1033
00:31:59,553 --> 00:32:01,855
- It's the reunion.
We got to look our best.

1034
00:32:01,922 --> 00:32:04,024
- God, that [bleep] slicked.

1035
00:32:04,091 --> 00:32:06,326
- Three kids
with jam-packed schedules.

1036
00:32:06,393 --> 00:32:09,029
It is enough to put
a strain on any marriage.

1037
00:32:09,096 --> 00:32:11,031
And that is exactly what
happened with Maci and Taylor.

1038
00:32:11,098 --> 00:32:12,432
- This is what we said, right?

1039
00:32:12,499 --> 00:32:14,401
- Yeah.
Didn't we say that?

1040
00:32:14,468 --> 00:32:15,903
We know it all.

1041
00:32:15,969 --> 00:32:17,404
- Because we've been there.

1042
00:32:17,471 --> 00:32:19,940
- Yes, you got to schedule
a date night.

1043
00:32:20,007 --> 00:32:21,542
- Got to have that.

1044
00:32:21,608 --> 00:32:22,876
- Were you guys
physically connected?

1045
00:32:22,943 --> 00:32:24,344
Your intimacy
was good and stuff?

1046
00:32:24,411 --> 00:32:25,746
- Oh.

1047
00:32:25,812 --> 00:32:28,815
- For me, physical connection
is very important.

1048
00:32:28,882 --> 00:32:31,952
- Yep.
[laughs]

1049
00:32:32,019 --> 00:32:33,320
- Aw, [bleep].

1050
00:32:33,387 --> 00:32:35,656
He not laying it down right?
What's going on?

1051
00:32:35,722 --> 00:32:37,191
- It's my love language.

1052
00:32:37,257 --> 00:32:38,659
- Like, I don't need you
to tell me I'm pretty

1053
00:32:38,725 --> 00:32:40,194
and say thank you.

1054
00:32:40,260 --> 00:32:41,862
Like, just grab my ass and
give me a kiss on the cheek.

1055
00:32:41,929 --> 00:32:42,763
- Yeah.
- We're good.

1056
00:32:42,829 --> 00:32:44,131
- [bleep]

1057
00:32:44,198 --> 00:32:45,566
- She said all she wanted
was her ass slapped.

1058
00:32:45,632 --> 00:32:46,700
[laughs]
- Yeah.

1059
00:32:46,767 --> 00:32:47,901
And she's like, she used--

1060
00:32:47,968 --> 00:32:48,902
- Maci, I knew you
was a freak, girl.

1061
00:32:48,969 --> 00:32:50,237
I knew it.

1062
00:32:50,304 --> 00:32:51,238
- She's like,
you can keep that thank you.

1063
00:32:51,305 --> 00:32:52,673
Smack my ass.
- Yes.

1064
00:32:52,739 --> 00:32:53,907
Smack my ass, give me a hug.

1065
00:32:53,974 --> 00:32:55,576
- Yeah, I mean, I get it.
- And I'm good.

1066
00:32:55,642 --> 00:32:57,044
- They have different
love languages.

1067
00:32:57,110 --> 00:32:58,178
- Everybody needs--

1068
00:32:58,245 --> 00:32:59,546
- So if you're
not loving someone

1069
00:32:59,613 --> 00:33:00,881
in their love language,
they don't feel loved.

1070
00:33:00,948 --> 00:33:02,115
- Feel loved, yeah.

1071
00:33:02,182 --> 00:33:03,250
And then the other
person can't really

1072
00:33:03,317 --> 00:33:04,151
understand it,
because they don't

1073
00:33:04,218 --> 00:33:05,252
understand their language.

1074
00:33:05,319 --> 00:33:06,386
- Yeah.

1075
00:33:06,453 --> 00:33:07,955
- Now slap my ass
and give me a hug.

1076
00:33:08,021 --> 00:33:09,656
- Tell me thank you
and smack my ass.

1077
00:33:09,723 --> 00:33:10,991
I need both.

1078
00:33:11,058 --> 00:33:12,960
- We're very
physically connected.

1079
00:33:13,026 --> 00:33:15,195
To hear it, but also show it.

1080
00:33:15,262 --> 00:33:17,164
- Feel it.
Come on, Taylor.

1081
00:33:17,231 --> 00:33:18,799
Smack her ass, kiss her cheek.

1082
00:33:18,866 --> 00:33:20,467
- We talked a little bit
about how

1083
00:33:20,534 --> 00:33:22,102
Taylor's relationship
with Bentley,

1084
00:33:22,169 --> 00:33:23,704
you got lots of funny
feelings about it.

1085
00:33:23,770 --> 00:33:25,272
- Yeah.

1086
00:33:25,339 --> 00:33:26,573
- The Bentley thief.
- Yeah.

1087
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:27,875
- Bentley thief.

1088
00:33:27,941 --> 00:33:29,009
- I can imagine you'd be
a little jealous of that.

1089
00:33:29,076 --> 00:33:30,310
- Bentley's just getting older.

1090
00:33:30,377 --> 00:33:31,512
And it's one of those,
you know,

1091
00:33:31,578 --> 00:33:32,613
there are certain things
he doesn't want

1092
00:33:32,679 --> 00:33:33,914
to talk to me about.

1093
00:33:33,981 --> 00:33:36,416
- Would you be jealous
if you were married

1094
00:33:36,483 --> 00:33:39,953
and your husband spent
more time with the kids?

1095
00:33:40,020 --> 00:33:41,788
- Probably.

1096
00:33:41,855 --> 00:33:43,190
Mm-hmm.
Like, hello?

1097
00:33:43,257 --> 00:33:45,192
What happened to me?

1098
00:33:45,259 --> 00:33:46,393
I would be grateful.
- Listen.

1099
00:33:46,460 --> 00:33:47,594
- I'd be grateful.
- I'd be grateful.

1100
00:33:47,661 --> 00:33:48,729
- But I'd be savage.

1101
00:33:48,795 --> 00:33:51,064
I'd be like, girl,
I'm your mama.

1102
00:33:51,131 --> 00:33:53,066
- Well, Maci and Taylor,
thank you so much

1103
00:33:53,133 --> 00:33:54,134
for joining us today.

1104
00:33:54,201 --> 00:33:55,302
- Good for her.

1105
00:33:55,369 --> 00:33:56,670
- Yeah?

1106
00:33:57,671 --> 00:33:59,540
- Come down.

1107
00:34:00,174 --> 00:34:02,409
Come here.
- Can I get a besito?

1108
00:34:02,476 --> 00:34:04,011
- Can you bring it
all the way over here?

1109
00:34:04,077 --> 00:34:05,279
- Cheeky.
- Let me see how much you ate.

1110
00:34:05,345 --> 00:34:07,281
[gasps]
- Cheeky!

1111
00:34:07,347 --> 00:34:09,016
- Can I have a--
look at that face.

1112
00:34:09,082 --> 00:34:10,517
- Hey, hey, hey, that's enough.

1113
00:34:10,584 --> 00:34:11,952
- Look at that face.

1114
00:34:12,019 --> 00:34:13,820
- Give me a kiss..

1115
00:34:13,887 --> 00:34:15,022
Excuse me.

1116
00:34:15,088 --> 00:34:16,456
- She loves her mama.

1117
00:34:16,523 --> 00:34:18,225
- What about me?
- Don't you love your mama?

1118
00:34:18,292 --> 00:34:19,893
- OK, give Titi kiss
'cause she's jealous.

1119
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,261
- Oh, I know.

1120
00:34:21,328 --> 00:34:22,829
- Give grandma a hug.

1121
00:34:22,896 --> 00:34:25,232
- Give me my Stella-la-la-la!

1122
00:34:25,299 --> 00:34:27,301
Gimme my Stella.
- This is unfair.

1123
00:34:27,367 --> 00:34:30,737
This is unfair.
- Gimme my Stella!

1124
00:34:35,309 --> 00:34:37,611
- Give me one more hug.

1125
00:34:37,678 --> 00:34:39,413
Where's your sister?

1126
00:34:39,479 --> 00:34:41,281
- She's upstairs.

1127
00:34:41,348 --> 00:34:42,649
- You OK?
- Mm-hmm.

1128
00:34:42,716 --> 00:34:44,384
- Do you need anything?
- Mm-mm.

1129
00:34:44,451 --> 00:34:46,887
- OK.
Love you.

1130
00:34:46,954 --> 00:34:49,189
- Bye, cheeky.
- Love you.

1131
00:34:49,256 --> 00:34:52,192
[applause]

1132
00:34:53,927 --> 00:34:58,198
- Oh, we about
to see Josh and Mackenzie.

1133
00:34:58,265 --> 00:34:59,666
- Who?

1134
00:34:59,733 --> 00:35:02,135
Mm. Uh-uh.

1135
00:35:02,202 --> 00:35:05,038
- And we are back
with the "Teen Mom OG" reunion.

1136
00:35:05,105 --> 00:35:07,274
And sitting with us now,
we have Mackenzie

1137
00:35:07,341 --> 00:35:09,042
and her husband, Josh.

1138
00:35:09,109 --> 00:35:11,879
- Every time I see Josh,
he looks different.

1139
00:35:11,945 --> 00:35:13,514
- He's not chewing
tobacco here.

1140
00:35:13,580 --> 00:35:14,681
- I know, I noticed.

1141
00:35:14,748 --> 00:35:16,416
- Now, in your marriage,
you and Josh

1142
00:35:16,483 --> 00:35:18,652
have had ups and downs.

1143
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,287
How are things right now?

1144
00:35:20,354 --> 00:35:24,892
- Good, I think
when we learned how to--

1145
00:35:24,958 --> 00:35:26,994
we figured out
no one wants us together.

1146
00:35:27,060 --> 00:35:28,562
- What?

1147
00:35:28,629 --> 00:35:29,863
Who said that?

1148
00:35:29,930 --> 00:35:31,498
- Wait, say that again?

1149
00:35:31,565 --> 00:35:33,867
- I feel like no one really is

1150
00:35:33,934 --> 00:35:35,802
for us being together,
just because of our--

1151
00:35:35,869 --> 00:35:37,204
- You mean your family,
or social media, or--

1152
00:35:37,271 --> 00:35:38,839
- No, no, no, not my family.
Social media.

1153
00:35:38,906 --> 00:35:40,507
- Who gives a damn?
- Who gives a [bleep]?

1154
00:35:40,574 --> 00:35:42,309
- Dr. Drew's face.

1155
00:35:42,376 --> 00:35:44,044
I'm sorry.
He's said, what?

1156
00:35:44,111 --> 00:35:46,747
- Dr. Drew be so fake confused.

1157
00:35:46,813 --> 00:35:49,049
It kills me.

1158
00:35:49,116 --> 00:35:51,885
Somebody give
this man a damn Emmy.

1159
00:35:51,952 --> 00:35:54,087
- The whole time,
he be confused.

1160
00:35:54,154 --> 00:35:55,956
<i>[upbeat music]</i>

1161
00:35:56,023 --> 00:35:59,293
- When we can drown out the
noise around us and just say,

1162
00:35:59,359 --> 00:36:01,128
OK, it doesn't matter
what these people say.

1163
00:36:01,195 --> 00:36:02,796
What do we want in our heart?

1164
00:36:02,863 --> 00:36:04,264
What do we feel like?

1165
00:36:04,331 --> 00:36:06,233
When I was able
to step away from that,

1166
00:36:06,300 --> 00:36:09,970
and focus just on our marriage,
I think it was better.

1167
00:36:10,037 --> 00:36:11,338
- Damn.

1168
00:36:11,405 --> 00:36:14,808
We get trolls every single day
on social media.

1169
00:36:14,875 --> 00:36:20,113
But I feel like we don't care
what anyone says.

1170
00:36:20,180 --> 00:36:21,915
We ain't breaking up.
- Don't pay attention to it.

1171
00:36:21,982 --> 00:36:23,784
- We don't--
we ain't breaking up.

1172
00:36:23,851 --> 00:36:25,185
We ain't paying
attention to it.

1173
00:36:25,252 --> 00:36:26,520
- No, I mean, we're just
not paying attention to it.

1174
00:36:26,587 --> 00:36:27,921
You can't pay attention to it.

1175
00:36:27,988 --> 00:36:31,358
- If you let the world talk,
put stuff like that

1176
00:36:31,425 --> 00:36:32,526
into your head,
your head was already

1177
00:36:32,593 --> 00:36:33,927
thinking stuff like that.

1178
00:36:33,994 --> 00:36:34,995
- If you're listening
to what people are saying.

1179
00:36:35,062 --> 00:36:36,430
- Yeah.
- Taking it in.

1180
00:36:36,496 --> 00:36:38,098
People have been telling me
to leave Sean forever.

1181
00:36:38,165 --> 00:36:41,034
- Exactly.
Who gives a [bleep]?

1182
00:36:41,101 --> 00:36:42,569
- Yeah, but if it's true love,

1183
00:36:42,636 --> 00:36:43,704
you got to stick it
out together.

1184
00:36:43,770 --> 00:36:44,872
- That's my man,
and I'm all right--

1185
00:36:44,938 --> 00:36:46,840
So this is your man?
That's mines.

1186
00:36:46,907 --> 00:36:47,975
- That's mines.

1187
00:36:48,041 --> 00:36:49,042
- And I'ma ride this out.

1188
00:36:49,109 --> 00:36:50,444
- Like, who the [bleep] cares

1189
00:36:50,511 --> 00:36:52,746
if social media doesn't
want you with your man?

1190
00:36:52,813 --> 00:36:54,281
- You got kids with him, lady.

1191
00:36:54,348 --> 00:36:55,482
- Like, not even that.

1192
00:36:55,549 --> 00:36:56,717
But like,
[bleep] what a stranger says.

1193
00:36:56,783 --> 00:36:58,218
- Yeah, but it's hard.

1194
00:36:58,285 --> 00:36:59,820
People on the internet
are no joke.

1195
00:36:59,887 --> 00:37:02,422
Seeing that every single day,
hearing that every single day

1196
00:37:02,489 --> 00:37:03,790
takes a toll on you.

1197
00:37:03,857 --> 00:37:05,292
You could say it doesn't,
but it does.

1198
00:37:05,359 --> 00:37:09,630
- Social media has just
ruined these people's lives

1199
00:37:09,696 --> 00:37:10,998
- Yeah.
- These young people.

1200
00:37:11,064 --> 00:37:13,600
- You have to know when
to shut that thing down.

1201
00:37:13,667 --> 00:37:17,204
- If she knows that tuning
into social media is a--

1202
00:37:17,271 --> 00:37:18,605
- But that's her business.
That's her job.

1203
00:37:18,672 --> 00:37:20,741
She has to be
on social media.

1204
00:37:20,807 --> 00:37:23,076
It's not like
she could just turn it off.

1205
00:37:23,143 --> 00:37:24,444
If she could just turn it off,

1206
00:37:24,511 --> 00:37:25,946
I'm sure she
wouldn't even bring it up.

1207
00:37:26,013 --> 00:37:27,781
But she works on social media.

1208
00:37:27,848 --> 00:37:29,950
She has a business,
she runs it.

1209
00:37:30,017 --> 00:37:31,852
So if you have a business page,
and then you look

1210
00:37:31,919 --> 00:37:32,986
at the comments
and you're trying

1211
00:37:33,053 --> 00:37:34,955
to buy a workout program,

1212
00:37:35,022 --> 00:37:37,591
and then you see all
these people talking [bleep],

1213
00:37:37,658 --> 00:37:40,093
it's just like,
damn, it's hard.

1214
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,263
- You're right.
I didn't think of that one.

1215
00:37:43,330 --> 00:37:44,731
- I just want
to make some money,

1216
00:37:44,798 --> 00:37:47,768
but here this bitch is saying
I shouldn't be with Josh.

1217
00:37:47,835 --> 00:37:49,036
- Couples therapy ever?

1218
00:37:49,102 --> 00:37:50,671
Is that anything
you guys have thought about?

1219
00:37:50,737 --> 00:37:51,972
- Mm-mm.
- No.

1220
00:37:52,039 --> 00:37:55,042
- That's why
they're not together now.

1221
00:37:55,108 --> 00:37:57,211
- He's the easiest person
to take it out on.

1222
00:37:57,277 --> 00:37:59,046
Like, OK,
today I'm grieving,

1223
00:37:59,112 --> 00:38:01,682
so let me just be angry
about everything

1224
00:38:01,748 --> 00:38:03,116
Josh has done to me.

1225
00:38:03,183 --> 00:38:05,986
And so that was my tactic
for a long time.

1226
00:38:06,053 --> 00:38:08,222
- I feel like Josh
does not talk.

1227
00:38:08,288 --> 00:38:11,358
- Josh is giving us
zero out of ten.

1228
00:38:11,425 --> 00:38:12,793
- And then when he talks,
it's like,

1229
00:38:12,860 --> 00:38:14,228
"Yeah, I'm all right."

1230
00:38:14,294 --> 00:38:15,495
- Josh is giving us...
- "I'm OK to be here."

1231
00:38:15,562 --> 00:38:16,597
- Nothing.

1232
00:38:16,663 --> 00:38:18,198
Like, I don't even know

1233
00:38:18,265 --> 00:38:20,601
what Josh said all season.

1234
00:38:20,667 --> 00:38:22,302
I ain't heard Josh all season.

1235
00:38:22,369 --> 00:38:24,304
- Josh doesn't want to be here,
and it's OK.

1236
00:38:24,371 --> 00:38:25,906
It's OK, Josh.
- It's a'ight, Josh.

1237
00:38:25,973 --> 00:38:27,341
- We appreciate you
for showing up.

1238
00:38:27,407 --> 00:38:29,843
- It is what it is,
what you guys did.

1239
00:38:29,910 --> 00:38:31,411
And now it's time
to get on with it.

1240
00:38:31,478 --> 00:38:32,746
- What'd they do?

1241
00:38:32,813 --> 00:38:34,515
- Cheat on each other?

1242
00:38:34,581 --> 00:38:36,984
- I don't know.
I'm lost.

1243
00:38:37,050 --> 00:38:39,553
- The kids are happiest
when we're doing good.

1244
00:38:39,620 --> 00:38:41,188
both: Of course.

1245
00:38:41,255 --> 00:38:44,157
- Uh-uh, Dr. Drew.
You owe me a soda.

1246
00:38:44,224 --> 00:38:45,626
[laughter]

1247
00:38:45,692 --> 00:38:46,793
- You don't have to do that.

1248
00:38:46,860 --> 00:38:48,462
Send that through the mail,
Drew.

1249
00:38:48,529 --> 00:38:49,963
- Not the same time.

1250
00:38:50,030 --> 00:38:53,433
- We are now joined
by Mackenzie's father, Brad.

1251
00:38:53,500 --> 00:38:55,002
Welcome, Brad.

1252
00:38:55,068 --> 00:38:57,404
- Whoo!
I love Dad.

1253
00:38:58,672 --> 00:39:00,007
- Aw.
- Aww, Brad.

1254
00:39:00,073 --> 00:39:02,242
- I love Brad.
I love Brad.

1255
00:39:02,309 --> 00:39:03,477
- How do you feel
about these guys,

1256
00:39:03,544 --> 00:39:04,811
and what they're
doing down in Florida,

1257
00:39:04,878 --> 00:39:06,313
and their relationship?

1258
00:39:06,380 --> 00:39:11,919
- I just want you guys
to know how proud I am of you.

1259
00:39:11,985 --> 00:39:14,721
I've heard what
they was talking about,

1260
00:39:14,788 --> 00:39:16,423
people on social media,

1261
00:39:16,490 --> 00:39:18,258
thinking that
they need to split.

1262
00:39:18,325 --> 00:39:21,028
And I look at it and think,

1263
00:39:21,094 --> 00:39:26,066
why would you throw
all that work

1264
00:39:26,133 --> 00:39:28,035
and everything you guys have
been through away?

1265
00:39:28,101 --> 00:39:30,103
- Over a couple comments.

1266
00:39:30,170 --> 00:39:32,039
- So if he wants them
to work it out,

1267
00:39:32,105 --> 00:39:34,374
they should try to work it out

1268
00:39:34,441 --> 00:39:37,311
and not let other people
from the outside...

1269
00:39:37,377 --> 00:39:39,246
- Interfere.
- Interfere.

1270
00:39:39,313 --> 00:39:41,381
- I mean,
he lost the love of his life.

1271
00:39:41,448 --> 00:39:42,616
- Yeah.

1272
00:39:42,683 --> 00:39:44,685
- And these two
are supposed to be, like,

1273
00:39:44,751 --> 00:39:46,386
in love or love each other.

1274
00:39:46,453 --> 00:39:47,855
And they're just
going to call it quits

1275
00:39:47,921 --> 00:39:49,456
after--like the father said,

1276
00:39:49,523 --> 00:39:50,891
everything they've
been through.

1277
00:39:50,958 --> 00:39:51,825
Why are you calling
it quits now?

1278
00:39:51,892 --> 00:39:53,160
Like, why?

1279
00:39:53,227 --> 00:39:54,394
- 'Cause some people
don't view love the same.

1280
00:39:54,461 --> 00:39:55,495
Like, in that situation,

1281
00:39:55,562 --> 00:39:56,496
I feel like love
would be a choice.

1282
00:39:56,563 --> 00:39:57,764
- But he's very old-school too.

1283
00:39:57,831 --> 00:39:58,966
- They don't make them
like they used to.

1284
00:39:59,032 --> 00:40:00,334
- Like, nowadays,
they're just like, oh,

1285
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:01,468
if it doesn't work out,
that's it, we're done.

1286
00:40:01,535 --> 00:40:02,369
- Yeah, but you know
how I say, like,

1287
00:40:02,436 --> 00:40:03,670
love is an emotional choice?

1288
00:40:03,737 --> 00:40:04,571
In this case, it'd be a choice
because you have

1289
00:40:04,638 --> 00:40:06,073
to choose to work on it.

1290
00:40:06,139 --> 00:40:07,474
- With your partner, yeah.

1291
00:40:07,541 --> 00:40:09,109
- So some people may not
look at love like that.

1292
00:40:09,176 --> 00:40:10,110
They may just be like,
it's a feeling

1293
00:40:10,177 --> 00:40:11,478
and I don't feel it anymore.

1294
00:40:11,545 --> 00:40:13,647
- Thank you so much,
Mackenzie, Josh, and Brad,

1295
00:40:13,714 --> 00:40:15,315
for being here today.

1296
00:40:15,382 --> 00:40:17,518
- Josh.
- He's not saying [bleep].

1297
00:40:17,584 --> 00:40:18,986
I was just thinking that.

1298
00:40:19,052 --> 00:40:20,487
- Somebody gave me a thing,

1299
00:40:20,554 --> 00:40:22,389
so I can hold up
a "Boo, Josh" sign.

1300
00:40:22,456 --> 00:40:25,659
Boo, Josh!

1301
00:40:25,726 --> 00:40:28,095
- And on that note,
we've reached the end

1302
00:40:28,161 --> 00:40:30,764
of this reunion
and another incredible season

1303
00:40:30,831 --> 00:40:32,132
of "Teen Mom OG."

1304
00:40:32,199 --> 00:40:34,468
- You know what?
That's all right.

1305
00:40:34,535 --> 00:40:37,771
'Cause, Josh, I know
where you park your car.

1306
00:40:37,838 --> 00:40:39,540
- Why do you always
go to the car?

1307
00:40:39,606 --> 00:40:41,408
- That was the finale.

1308
00:40:41,475 --> 00:40:44,444
Great.
- Well, I guess that's a wrap.

1309
00:40:44,511 --> 00:40:46,813
[laughter]

1310
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,081
- That's a wrap.

1311
00:40:48,148 --> 00:40:51,051
<i>[upbeat music]</i>

1312
00:40:51,118 --> 00:40:58,258
<i>♪♪ ♪♪</i>

1313
00:41:10,470 --> 00:41:13,373
<i>[upbeat music]</i>

1314
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:20,581
<i>♪♪ ♪♪</i>