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- Life is busy as a mom.
- Yay!
- But tonight, we're taking a break...
- Cuddling up...
- Here, babe.
- And tuning in to our favorite show,
"Teen Mom OG."
- All right. - Let's go.
- Last week, Amber and Gary went to therapy.
- Me and my wife, we're trying to have
a relationship with Amber.
- I feel like Kristina should have been here.
- Kristina puts up with a [bleep] lot
because I couldn't.
- Maci and Taylor had an awkward date.
- Aw, damn. - Bless your heart.
- That's Southern for "you idiot."
- Mackenzie let her dad take Jaxie for the summer.
- So why not take all of them? I'm judging.
- I'm gonna miss her.
- Well, yeah. - A lot.
- While Cheyenne recovered from childbirth.
- Right now, I feel like I'm just getting zero sleep.
- It's hard.
- Yeah, Chey, that's why I only got one, girl.
- Now they're trying to plan a wedding.
- [sighs] - And Catelynn had a baby.
- Baby fell right out.
- This is the part in my birth when I was like, uh-uh,
wash 'em off first.
- What a little snookums.
- And we can't wait to see what happens next.
- It's a girls night in.
- Yo, yo, yo. - Next episode!
- Bar. - What?
- Stop yelling.
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- Here, I'm gonna pull this forward, so I can set my drink.
- Who's got the remote?
I got the remote!
- I can't wait to see what's gonna happen tonight.
- What you got in your poke bowl?
- Steak and tofu.
- I'm ready to tackle that pepperoni.
- Go ahead. You can eat it.
- Just eat it. - Thank you.
- Just do whatever.
- Could I get that blanket behind you, booby?
- Don't say that in front of the camera.
- Thank you, booby. - Ooh!
OK, I will trade the remote. I'll trade.
- You'll trade me for the remote?
- Yeah. It's a reunion!
I get so much anxiety at reunions.
- See what's going on here.
- Who's scrapping? Fight, fight, fight, fight!
- Let's get the reunion started.
I love me a good reunion. - Ha-ha.
- Oh, it's a reunion? - Yeah.
- Mm-hmm.
- Welcome to the "Teen Mom OG" reunion.
- Drewsky.
- Hey, Dr. Drew.
- Let's see who he's going to make cry.
- Well, I'm not there, so he can't make me cry.
- Can't make me cry.
- Saying I have schizoaffective disorder.
- Who said that? - Drew.
- [laughs]
- This has been an unforgettable season.
But we're beginning with three OG moms
who have been with us from the very first season
of "16 and Pregnant."
- Oh, my God. - Oh, my goodness.
- Oh, my gosh.
- Oh, my God. - They all look like babies.
- We were babies.
- Wait, when I used to show my legs.
- Oh, Amber.
- Bangs, bangs, bangs.
- Children. - OK.
- I still have that look.
[laughter]
- It's the "don't [bleep] with me" look.
- Aw, Cate!
- Cate had the Justin Bieber bang,
where you just go like this all day.
- It's like, killing brain cells every time you do it.
- Oh, my God, we are children.
We thought we were so grown.
- We did think we were so grown.
- Oh, Maci with the bob?
OK, bob.
- Them spray tans though, Jesus.
- She looks the same. She needs a new hairdo.
- She does.
[laughter]
- I look like my mother right there.
That's Sharon.
- I feel like remember watching Maci, "16 and Pregnant."
That was so long ago.
- You was just as young as they were.
- Mm-hmm. We were all 16 and pregnant.
- I can't imagine being that young, having a baby,
and being under the spotlight.
I can't. - [bleep] wild.
- Let's talk about this season.
Amber, what stands out to you most for this season?
- I mean, it's been 13 years, guys.
And look at this. It's the truth.
- Oh, look at Farrah over there.
I remember the day we did this.
It seems like a long time ago.
- Look at her. - Is that you?
- No. - Oh.
- Did you say I look like her?
- No, I didn't say you looked like her.
I could see-- - Wait, oh, boy, babe.
- The picture was blurry. I just could barely see it.
- This season, I think, just with COVID and everything,
it was like, all right, I'll watch.
And then I was like, hmm, you got some [bleep]
you got to work on, sis.
- They did work through a lot of stuff this season,
it seemed like.
Some cooler stuff, some big challenges.
- Yeah, I remember Maci was working through, like, PTSD
the majority of the season.
- Right.
- Amber was working through mental health and her kid.
- Two of the other girls are having babies.
- Right, it's a lot going on between them.
- That's major life [bleep].
- Don't you remember when our babies
were pregnant and having babies?
- Yeah.
- We were so worried and horrified
that our children, our little children,
were already trying to have babies
and they were babies themselves.
- Yeah. - Remember that?
- Oh, God, I remember that.
Like, what the hell, man? - And now look at them.
They're beautiful, strong women.
- And everyone said to me in my family,
"You're gonna raise that baby. You're gonna raise the baby."
I said, hell no, I'm not gonna raise that baby.
- Hell yeah, you are.
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- Does my hair look OK?
- Your hair always looks good, baby.
- OK, don't lie to me. - I'm not lying to you.
- All right, all right, all right.
- How's my hair look?
- It looks great right now.
[laughs]
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- Welcome back to the "Teen Mom OG" reunion.
We're now here with Cate and Ty.
- Hi. - Hi.
- Three daughters. - Three daughters.
Sorry about those Y chromosomes, my friend.
- Man, what happened? [laughter]
- Can't make no boys.
- I want to talk to you about the visit with Carly.
- Oh, my God, I bet that was so beautiful.
- I'm just blessed that she gets to have a relationship
with her sisters.
- And we saw you get very emotional after the visit.
Why not in front of Carly?
- Well, you got to hold it in.
- I'm nervous that Carly's gonna go back to Braintree
and say, "He was crying so hard."
- OK, well, I'm not saying you should cry.
I'm saying, acknowledge her feelings
and describe how you feel similar.
- I know, but I had to walk away.
- 'Cause you'd lose it. - I can't control it.
- Yeah. - I can't control it.
Ah! [laughter]
I can't [bleep] control it.
- Because he really cares.
He loves her. - I know.
- He couldn't control the tears.
- Thank you for letting him know, Tyler.
Because Dr. Drew thinks that it's just [bleep] easy.
- I don't agree with Dr. Drew saying, don't cry.
That was kind of [bleep] up.
- But if the little girl sees them crying,
it puts the little girl in a situation where she's
gonna have to identify their feelings and acknowledge them.
And in her life, they're not a priority.
The mom and dad are a priority.
- I agree with Dr. Drew, though.
Maybe just say, like,
it is tough, but I'll see you next time.
- I'm having a hard time too.
- And I'm looking forward to it.
- Right. Some words of reinforcement.
- Whatever, easier said than done.
- Right. - 'Cause I don't know.
- 'Cause I'm not in the situation.
- I might do a snatch and grab. - On God.
- The way I'm set up. - Set up.
- Throughout the season, we heard you talking
about feeling inadequate as a father,
which flies in the face of what we all see.
- I think Ty's a great dad. - I know, for real.
- He grew up to be quite the man, you know?
He is a good person.
- He's been through so much trauma.
- Yeah.
- I think there are things that, you know,
when you're not raised with a dad around
and you're only raised with women, it's kind of like,
you got to teach yourself how to be a man.
You know? - Yep.
- How to even be a dad.
Like, I don't know, so there's things that like,
you know, you feel--you question.
- Right. - You doubt.
- You always second-guess yourself as a parent, for sure.
- Like, I question the same thing sometimes, you feel me?
As far as, like, when I'm doing stuff.
And I'll be like, go in your room,
or go sit in a timeout or something.
And I send her off or get short,
and I'd be immediately, I'm like, damn.
Was I just too harsh?
Like, you know, am I being extra?
I think a lot of people don't talk about that,
as people being parents, used to constant,
constant criticizing, like, what you're doing.
- I feel like bad parents always think
they're the [bleep].
And great parents are always doubting themselves.
- Years ago, I did always internalize it
because of my own traumas as a child.
- Right, the work that-- you've both come a long way,
but particularly work you've done takes my breath away.
I've told you. - Thanks, Dr. Drew.
- You have to give them credit
because, you know, the first baby they had,
they gave up for adoption.
- Because they realized the situation,
and they wanted to protect Carly.
- And I know.
And I think that it was such a mature decision.
- Commendable, yeah.
- Especially because they grew up
in such horrible families.
- Yeah, they had never known any financial success.
They had never known anything but dysfunction and despair.
And if you go back to the very first episode,
they were living in a trailer.
- Yes, yes. - All of--
- Yes, I remember that, yeah. - All of them.
- Yes, I remember that.
- You've said this season,
you're willing to do anything you look into everything,
any possibility to try to get better.
And you came upon ketamine therapy.
- Mm-hmm. - You can do ketamine therapy?
- Do you get, like, lifted on it?
Like, high? Like, I'm so confused.
- That's a horse tranquilizer, cuz.
[whinnies]
- Ketamine therapy, for everyone out there,
it's a dissociative anesthetic really,
that's used for depression.
This is not a hallucinogenic thing.
This is not a recreational thing.
This is a treatment for recalcitrant depression.
And it has a pretty good impact on depression.
Pretty good. - Yeah.
- Dr. Drew, I feel like I'm watching,
like, "Gray's Anatomy."
- How'd it go for you? - I mean, it was amazing.
It really helped me a lot. Like, it felt very intense.
- [bleep] then. - I don't know.
- I don't feel like I'm that depressed,
to get a shot that tranquilizes horses.
- Well, I'm glad it helped him though.
- Yeah. - That's dope.
- I mean, whatever helps you out.
Look into it.
Maybe something you might want to do.
- Uh, OK. I don't know.
- I mean, don't knock it till you try it.
- I'm not. I'm not knocking it.
- Why don't you ask Tyler what it was like?
- I'ma hit him.
- On a real level, be like, hey, bro, was it shrooms?
[laughs] Just kidding.
- Shrooms, hey, what's up.
- Look.
- Shut up!
- She looks just like Sean in this picture.
- Yeah, Sean's kid.
It's the mannerisms she makes, you know?
- Yeah, I remember one time, I got so pissed off
because his mom said, "I mean, well,
"we certainly don't need a DNA test.
Looks just like Sean."
And I was like-- - Bitch.
- Now, bitch, why the [bleep] would we need DNA?
Like, I literally, I called Sean.
I was like, "I'll be right back."
I went to the bathroom. - [laughs]
- And I was like-- - "I'll be right back."
- I was like, "Your mom's got me [bleep] up."
I was like, "She talking about--"
and he was like, "She's probably just trying
to make a joke."
I was like, "Jokes are funny. It wasn't [bleep] funny to me.
It was annoying."
And he was like, "Just calm down."
- Yeah.
- For real.
- Welcome back to the "Teen Mom OG Reunion."
It is time now to speak with Amber.
- Oh, Amber goes off... - OK.
- In this. - Well, let's see.
Because-- - I'm tryna see some [bleep].
- I need to see something.
- I feel like they have enabled Amber
to be this terrible person.
But like... - Yeah, I know.
- Knowing her and like, getting to know her is like,
it's complete opposites.
So weird to me.
- 'Cause I think she's a good person.
- And she does seem much more--
she doesn't seem so eager to have an outburst.
- All right. We're going to bring Gary out.
Everyone, please welcome Gary.
[applause]
Hey, Gary. - Hello.
[both chanting] Gary, Gary, Gary.
- He's hilarious. - Gare Bear.
- "Guh-ree."
- He looks like he lost some weight.
- Yeah. He'd been out in his garden.
- Garden. - Sweating.
- He'd been out there in the sun.
- So, Gary, you finally went to therapy with Amber.
- That's a big step, I feel like.
- Mm-hmm.
- Don't you think it'd be a good idea
for Leah to see somebody too?
So she can kind of be brought along with?
- She is speaking to somebody--
- OK, OK. - A professional.
- Good.
- There you go.
- You probably didn't know this.
Per Leah's request, she didn't want it to be talked about.
- What? - Amber didn't know that.
- Oh, no, she's probably pissed.
- Amber, that's good news, right?
- Yeah, it's good. - You're maybe going to see--
- If I knew about it.
- Oh, geez, here we go now.
Instead of saying thank you.
- Part of Leah going, she didn't want anybody knowing,
to start off, and I have supported that.
I was like, it's your safe spot.
- I agree with Gary.
But then I don't.
- How many times has she gone?
- She's gone, I think, about ten.
- Ooh, goodness. - [gasps]
That's a lot of times to not say nothing.
- Here's the thing.
I'm the mother of her. - Yeah.
- I need to understand what Leah is going through,
so I believe that the communication
should be there for that.
- Amen. - Yeah.
- You should have said, "She's in therapy."
- Yeah, he should have said something.
- I am her mother.
- So you don't think it's OK for her
not to tell you what she's doing
in order to help herself?
- No, she doesn't need to say anything.
But you can tell me.
- So you mean, break her trust and tell you
what she doesn't want you to know.
- Yeah, that's not breaking trust, though.
- There's been a-- - That's not breaking trust.
- She wasn't wanting to go unless--
- That doesn't matter.
- She felt safe and had somewhere safe
to say what she wants.
- They both have good arguing points.
I'm torn in the middle.
- Amber is the mom.
- Yeah.
- Whether you like it or not, she's the mom.
Of course she would have attitude
if she's been advocating for the child to get therapy.
You were advocating against it. Now you put her in it.
- Now she's in therapy, and you didn't tell her.
- And I don't know.
- I was trying to let you know.
And I was given permission from Leah.
- Well, thank you for letting me know on the stage here.
I don't need a camera in front of my face
for me to know something.
- She's right about that. - That's true.
- I agree with Amber on this one.
- Yeah. - It's like--
- I feel like Amber just feels sad that, you know--
- That she wasn't informed. - She wasn't informed.
- Yeah.
- It's hard to be a mom and be [bleep] left out.
- She pushed her out. - Yeah.
- I hate that. - But I think--
- You know, like--
- I don't think Gary doing it-- - Out of spite.
It was more out of being a good dad, keeping her secret.
- It still hurts, as a mom, though,
regardless how it came about.
- Like, there are days when the girls are going
through something, like, and Corey calls you
you and tells you about it.
He don't have to tell you that.
But the fact that he goes out of his way and tells you that
says a lot about, like, his relationship with you.
- Mm-hmm.
- And what it sounds to me like
is that there's still some issues that they're probably
having between them two
that he's like, I don't feel comfortable
telling her certain things.
- Yeah.
- That's what I'm talking about.
- And for Gary to say it on television...
- No. - And not private is [bleep].
- Permission.
- He had ten chances to tell her.
- Uh-huh.
- That was raw. - That's 2 1/2 months.
- That was too raw for her to handle on national TV.
[bleep] that [bleep]. No way.
- Here's what Amber's position is.
You have a child.
You're putting the child in charge of the therapy.
You don't-- - Exactly.
- I'm not putting her in charge of it.
- I'm just saying, that's what Amber's saying.
- OK, if I were to sit there and say, you would understand.
- You don't do that. - I know, I know.
Gary, Gary, Gary-- - My Lord, have mercy.
- I understand what you're saying too.
- No you don't 'cause you're not listening.
- It's getting heated.
I feel the tension.
- Somebody has a plan to do something with you.
- It doesn't matter.
- I can't tell you because it's supposed to be private.
- Don't start yelling at me.
- Well, don't sit and point your finger...
- I don't even care. - In my face, and act like--
- Don't start yelling at me.
- First of all, Gary, it's not in your face.
She's six feet apart. Relax.
- Damn.
- Everything that you do is for television.
- No, it's not.
- Done. both: Done.
[laughs] - Jesus.
- Everything that he does is for television.
I'm out. - Bye.
- OK, OK.
- Here we go again. - Yeah, here we go.
- It's always the same thing.
So how do you feel like you make progress?
- Live your life, and by the way--
- Here we go.
- Your first-class ticket coming back,
you're not [bleep] sitting with me.
- That's fine.
- Girl--give it to me, girl. - Peace out.
- 'Cause they be in the first class.
- I'ma sit by myself in first class.
- You can't use me for [bleep] for the rest...
- All right.
- Of your [bleep] life and for your money.
- It's always somebody using her.
- How do you have your money today, Gary?
- All because of you, thank you.
- How do you have your money today?
- Because of you, thank you. - Please tell me.
- Hey, bye.
- Seriously, answer the question!
- I said thank you, thank you so much.
- You're welcome.
- Thank you so much for everything you've done for me.
I appreciate it. - You're welcome.
- [laughs]
[laughter]
- Gary's--but this is Gary.
Like, he's not a confrontational,
argumentative person.
- Listen, he could keep making his money off me.
This is ridiculous.
- Here comes Larry.
- Mm, Larry, pay me more.
- You know damn well that Gary only does this
when we have screens.
I'm done.
- Goodbye, leave. - Ooh.
- Kristina ready.
- Kristina ain't gonna do nothing.
- No, she's not.
Kristina, you want to keep secrets from me?
I'm the mother.
I would have just liked
to know that she was even going.
That would have been nice. - Oh, [bleep].
- To be continued.
- What have you drawn? You haven't drawn anything.
- I have. - Did you rip it out?
Oh, is this an ice cream cone?
- Yeah.
- I could tell right away.
Very good. - Ice cream.
- Can you get me a marker?
- Yeah.
- Watch me draw my favorite thing in the world.
It's a Christmas tree.
- Oh, Christmas tree.
- Ho, ho, ho, little girl.
And Merry Christmas!
- I like Santa Claus.
- See what's up.
- Kristina, I'm the mother.
I would have just liked to know that she was even going.
That would have been nice.
- Oh, she's talking to Kristina.
- Just think about if that was your daughter.
You know, just think about that.
- Why doesn't she say anything on camera?
- Hold on, let's see what she say.
- I think that, you know, Kristina knew it,
this whole big thing, it was gonna blow with Amber.
- Yeah. - She knows.
And it's just--I think that she's so hurt by all this.
And she knows that she has to stay back
and not be a part of this between Amber and Gary.
- Can you imagine how difficult that would be?
- I don't know any therapist in the world
that would sit there and say,
"Don't tell the mother that your daughter--"
- True. - Especially ten times.
- Yes. - Come on.
- Take yourself out of the equation.
Go home, Amber.
- Just calm down, girl. Breathe.
- Yeah, her feelings are very much hurt.
- I'm bringing everybody in.
- Aw, [bleep], bringing everybody in?
Mother[bleep].
- She don't give a [bleep].
- She's over it. - She's really--
- She's [bleep] pissed.
- Kristina, we spoke backstage.
And I thought it was important to get
Mom's point of views, right?
You get that feeling.
- So as a mother, I mean, yes, the communication,
you know, should be open.
- OK, this could go two ways.
- Why do I feel like she's about to cry or something?
- Mm-hmm.
- She's just like, ripped to shreds.
- But I'm kind of like, mixed in the middle.
- I know.
- Because I know how Leah has asked, you know,
because she wanted to work on the relationship with you.
I think she wanted you not to know, so that way,
when she came back to you,
that it was a lot of progress on her part.
- I'm on Kristina's side.
- When Nova tells Devoin something
and he don't tell you...
- Ooh.
- How the [bleep] you gonna deal with that [bleep]?
You're not gonna like it. - It's different.
- And you know you won't.
- It's different because I'm the main provider.
- No, it doesn't matter. - It's different.
It's different.
If Leah told Amber something and was like,
"Don't tell Gary," Amber's not saying [bleep].
- No, you, Devoin is going to tell you [bleep].
- Nope.
- He's gonna tell you everything.
- Nope. Amber will keep a secret.
- You want Devoin to tell you.
- And so would Devoin, keep a secret.
I'd be--mm-mm, mm-mm.
- I low key was on Amber's side.
But, like, if Devoin did that to you,
I'd be like, yo, he's getting jumped.
- Yes.
- Hey, Kristina got patience.
- 'Cause if I was in Kristina's shoes,
I wouldn't like Amber.
And if I was in Amber shoes-- - You wouldn't like Kristina?
- I wouldn't like Kristina.
- Be ready to box every opportunity you get.
- So I think I understand.
And I think they're doing the best they can,
considering the circumstance.
And I think it's a little harder
because that relationship with her child is broken.
Now, if her child and her had a strong relationship...
- It would be a lot different, probably.
- It wouldn't be no problem with Kristina.
- Right.
- 'Cause Kristina's a good girl.
- OK.
- But I mean, like, in my opinion, as a mother,
there's nothing that should be going on
that the other parent is not telling me.
I don't give a good goddamn... both: Googley-moogley.
What it is-- - I knew it was coming.
- I need to know. - [laughs]
- Saying it that way is completely different.
- Gary has not said a word.
- But if that's the way that Leah felt,
that this was a safe place--
- She was fine, in case things were brought up.
I checked with her.
It wasn't just about being a safe place.
It was that she was OK sharing it.
- But why did you wait to say it till we were on camera?
On the stage?
- Yeah, I don't appreciate that.
- Sometimes we don't want to hear it for the first time
on camera either.
- I agree. I understand.
- You know what I mean?
Let's say this in private and then take it to the stage.
You know? - I agree with that as well.
- You got to understand, she is young.
And she doesn't know how friends will react
knowing about stuff like this.
- They're also old enough to where they're seeing
[bleep] on TV, like...
- Yeah.
- Now, that's another aspect I didn't think about.
- Not at all.
- Now, earlier in this season,
it felt like there was some tension
between Amber and Kristina.
- Yeah, she called Kristina
"homewrecking whore" on Instagram Live.
- On Instagram Live, went live and called her...
both: A homewrecking whore.
- So that's what caused a little riffle.
- A little razzle dazzle.
- Yes. - How are things today?
- I love Kristina, and I respect her today.
- Aw, that's good to hear.
- Because she is helping take care--
- Yeah, she's doing a great job.
- Yeah, she is.
At the end of the day, the common denominator is Leah.
They need to do what's best for her.
All that other [bleep] don't even matter.
- I am gonna say the truth.
But if I have kids, it's OK for me to do it to you,
but you absolutely better not [bleep] do it to me.
- You can never win this battle.
I don't know.
- You know, raising kids is hard.
It's hard. - I'm confused.
- And that's why I don't have none.
- I'm stuck. I'm torn.
- You're on my side. You literally are me.
You are saying that I'm going to do it to you,
but you better not [bleep] do it to me.
That's literally--and it's OK.
It's OK to be a double standard in that case.
Because I don't give a [bleep]. You're the mom.
You birthed that [bleep] baby. - Yeah, that's right.
- Do what you want. - You have more points.
- Purr. - [sighs]
I'm stressed.
- Look, watch. - Let me get a turn.
- Watch, let me show you how you're supposed to.
- Wait, wait, wait. - It's all about geometry.
It's about how you-- the angle that--
- Oh, geez, here he comes with his--
- That you go in.
- When I bite into it, the juice is still gonna drip.
- That's why the cup goes under your chin.
[laughter]
OK, ready, one, two, three.
- Or you eat the whole thing.
- We're back with the "Teen Mom OG" reunion.
Speaking to us now is Cheyenne.
- Whoo-whoo!
- Ooh, I like that dress.
- Cheyenne's dress reminds me of hot air balloon.
- That's [bleep] up. - It's not.
You never seen a hot air balloon?
- Yes.
- They be having the designs like that on top of it.
- Oh, oh, OK. - What?
- The way it came up, was like, that's [bleep] up.
- I'm not saying she reminds me of a hot air balloon.
- No, I'm saying the outfit. - No, like--
- Like, the way it came out was like, what?
- No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
- You don't be like, oh damn, your outfit
look like a hot air balloon.
They'd be like, aw, thank you.
They'd be like, what? - I'm not talking about shape.
- I know. - I'm talking about stripes.
- You were in labor for 32 hours?
- Damn!
- When you're that miserable, you don't--
you want everybody else to be as miserable as you are.
[laughter]
- That's very true.
- What'd I tell you? Don't touch me.
Don't talk to me.
- How's co-parenting nowadays with Corey?
- My biggest thing with Ryder, right now is,
I don't want her to feel like she's not stable.
- Yeah, that's hard.
- Where she sees, like, Mila gets to stay
with her mommy and daddy all week.
And Ace stays with her mommy and daddy.
And she's the one who's kind of bouncing around.
- Co-parenting is so [bleep] complicated.
- Yeah.
- Yeah, so Jenelle, you know,
she has different fathers to her kids.
- Mm-hmm.
- So you know, Ensley now is five.
And she, she says, why am I the one
who's always got to stay home?
And she's like, Kaiser goes to Tennessee.
Jace goes back to Meme's.
And why do I always have to stay home?
- Is that almost like Addie in a way?
- I think Addie questioned, like, "Why are my sisters
"going to their dad's and I'm not going to my dad's?"
But that was it.
But her dad also worked out of town.
But I think they do a great job too.
- Yeah.
- These young girls, they all have two or three
different baby daddies.
- Mm. - So it's just common to them.
They have these kids like they're puppies.
They're crazy.
- Everyone, please welcome Cory.
- Cory with the A$AP braids.
- Cory, it's great to see you. - That suit's fresh.
- It's good to be here. - He swear.
- He swears. - He does.
- He swears. - He swears he's something.
- Cory just swears. - He is kinda cute.
- Shut up. - Girl!
Don't give him-- don't get his head big.
- But both of her baby dads are cute.
- Yeah.
I mean, I like Zach's personality.
- You guys know it wouldn't be a reunion
without me getting emotional, talking about my kids.
- Are you about to cry?
- I'm not crying yet. I'm getting there.
- Oh, my bad. - What the [bleep]?
- I cannot deal with Cory.
He's something else. - I love being a father.
I'ma have a whole village by the time I'm done.
- Oh, wait.
- I'm just gonna have tons of babies
because I love being a dad, so...
- [laughs] - OK, OK, wait.
- We don't need to have a whole village,
but he's a good dad.
- Are there talks about more babies?
- You know, thanks to Cheyenne,
she's put the heat on the back of my neck.
Thank you to Zach.
He just put the heat on the back of my neck.
- Hold on.
We did not put the heat on you guys having more kids.
We put heat on--
- Oh, you see Cheyenne got married.
You see Cheyenne got a dog.
[laughter]
- I don't know.
I feel like he just tried to make it seem
like Taylor was jealous or something.
Cheyenne got a dog.
Cheyenne got a ring.
Why you playing Taylor out like that?
- [laughs] - Oh, no.
That came off weird to me.
I wouldn't want my dude to say that about me.
Because I ain't watching nobody else timeline, baby.
- To the world out there, listen.
I'm not worried about getting married.
- We know you ain't worried about getting married.
- We know. - [laughs]
- He don't want to marry her.
- Goddamn, y'all.
- Taylor, I love you.
Don't worry. Your ring is coming.
Don't listen to these people.
It will come when the time is right.
Love you.
- Well, personally, I have been a big advocate of,
like, don't compare our relationship.
- Mm-hmm?
- Because you can never compare yourself to anybody else
because you don't know what they're going through.
- I hope that she don't feel like that she has
to compete all the time, you know what I mean?
Because that would be-- you know, or just feel--
- Their relationship is not her relationship.
So like-- - Yeah, but I just feel like--
- Two different families, two different lives,
two different situations.
But when you're living and co-parenting...
- But she did. - You're always comparing.
- She got that baby from his ass.
They just had another one, didn't they?
So... [laughter]
- It's almost too good to be true.
[laughs]
How 'bout more babies, but I don't know
about marriage just yet.
- Welcome back.
We've been talking with Cheyenne.
And now we're joined by her fiancé, Zach.
- He looks like he's attending his wedding right now.
- Yeah. - Am I right?
- What's with the bow tie, Zach?
- This year was a year Cheyenne will never forget,
including some big fights with Zach.
- My favorite scene, y'all. - Oh.
[laughter]
- Made his ass take a Uber home.
- I was a good pregnant person.
I feel like I got a bad rap from this season.
- No, you didn't, boo.
- No, girl, your hormones were off the hook.
- Tell 'em, I was fine. - You were.
You were great. - Tell 'em.
Tell 'em now. - Tell him.
Tell him what I told you in the car.
- You want Zach to co-sign it.
[laughs]
- Really hormonal, but you were great.
- No!
- Really hormonal, but you were great.
- He's saying it with a grin.
- She did blow up on him in the car.
[laughs]
I said, my dude, Zach, he better have Uber downloaded.
- Right.
Already have it on order, on the screen.
- 'Cause he look like he was a ways away from home.
He had to click them mother[bleep] heels.
- Ch-ch.
- Get to it, the way she left his ass.
[laughter]
- On a scale of one to ten, how nervous were you...
- Oh. - Before the proposal.
- He proposed to her.
Put a blindfold on and then, like, asked her to marry him,
like, at the baby sprinkle in front of the whole family.
And then gave Ryder a ring too. - Oh, that's sweet.
- I'm not just committing to her.
I'm coming to Ryder as well.
- Period, and you better know it,
or we gon' bust your tires and bust your windows, Zach.
- There was some seriousness in that comment.
- 'Cause I was dead-ass.
- If you ask Ryder, she says we got proposed to.
[laughter]
- Well, we can't wait to see this wedding.
I'm sure it's going to be amazing.
I hope it's everything you both wanted.
- Can't wait. I'ma be at the wedding, ready.
You coming to the wedding? - Yes, I told you that.
- We invited.
I can't wait to see it either,
but it's gonna be so much fun.
- I just gave my RSVP.
And I chose the steak.
- Uh-huh.
Medium rare.
- I kind of remember the first reunion.
It was a long time ago.
The one thing that I will never forget
is I let the hairdresser, the hair people, do my hair.
And in those days, I used to wear my hair super short,
and I used to spike it.
And they did my hair,
and I came out with a damn poodle hair.
You know like old ladies, when they go to the--
- Oh, my God. - The hairdresser.
- The blue hairs? - No, and they get perms.
- Yeah, they had blue-- we called them blue hairs.
- Yeah, they put perm--
so they used a curling iron.
And they rolled up all my hair.
They're all like-- I look like a little--
- That's horrible. - Old grandmother.
- I said, holy [bleep], man.
And I'm like a hip grandma.
I kept my spiky hair.
And they made me look like that.
- Oh, that's horrible.
I would have shaved my head first.
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- Welcome back to the "Teen Mom OG" reunion.
We're now here with Maci.
Hi, Maci, it's nice to see you. - Hi.
- Oh, she looks great. Look at her.
So pretty.
- Those space buns, giving me "Star Wars."
- She looks like a little Teletubby
with those knots on her head.
- How's Bentley doing?
- He's good. He turns 13--
- Oh, my God. - Next week.
- Damn. - He's really growing up.
- And how's Maverick and Jayde?
- Wonderful. - Cute.
- They're my wild babies. - Oh, wow, [bleep].
He looks just like her. - Yeah.
- For real, all her kids look so much like her.
- They all got mullets. - They all got mullets.
- They all have baby mullets. - I love it.
I love the vibe they're giving.
Very much punk rock.
[laughter]
- They're so sweet.
Aren't they cute? - Yeah, they are cute.
- I have realized I have an unhealthy relationship
with emotions.
- Same, girl.
- Welcome to the world. - Welcome to my life.
- I realized that when I'm alone,
I wasn't comfortable.
- I feel like, if you can spend time alone
and go out to eat at a restaurant alone by yourself,
like, you can do anything.
- I don't [bleep] around like that.
- A lot of people--
I like to go to dinner and lunch by myself.
I like to-- - Really?
- Yes. Table for one, please.
- Table for one, please.
- Yes, all this [bleep]'s mine.
Appetizer, dinner, dessert.
- No, there's a difference between being alone
and being lonely.
- Yeah.
- But because I disconnected all emotions,
I didn't know who I was.
So it was scary.
So I didn't feel safe alone.
- There was a shooting incident that happened
where she had to use her car as a shield at a gas station.
She has, like, major PTSD from it.
People shot through glass and everything.
So she'd been, like, dealing with her PTSD and stuff.
- When did that lack of clear identity sort of pop
into your head?
How did you get to that point?
- The miscarriage.
- Oh, she had a miscarriage.
- Have you ever had a miscarriage?
- No, I never had a miscarriage.
- I've had two miscarriages.
I think the biggest thing I'd like to tell Maci is,
not only is she enough, but she's fabulous.
Because you know, it takes a person who's really looking
inside about how they can be a better person
to even have those questions.
- I mean, I didn't even realize she was putting
that much pressure on herself.
But I think I can definitely relate
to putting that much pressure on yourself.
The emotions and life, and sometimes you forget
to take a second to just kind of breathe
and be in the moment.
Be in the moment. Be present in the moment.
- Mm-hmm. - Enjoy the now.
- Yeah.
- She really worked through a lot.
- She's eating better.
She's thinking better. She's doing better.
Round of applause, Maci.
She got herself out of that depressing state,
which is hard to do, but she's doing it.
- That's what happens when you're a mother
with young kids.
- And you're giving to the kids.
- And you have to take care of these children.
And you have a husband, and you have a house.
And you've got work, and you've got jobs.
And yo, hey, oh.
You never take care of yourself.
- And you're trying to be superwoman, you know?
And you just can't do it. - No.
You have to just say, I'm gonna take care of myself.
- Right.
- We want to get Taylor out here
when we talk about all this, so welcome, Taylor.
[applause]
- Big T. - What strong walk.
- Wow, he's not wearing the [bleep] hat.
- Oh, my God.
- It's the reunion. We got to look our best.
- God, that [bleep] slicked.
- Three kids with jam-packed schedules.
It is enough to put a strain on any marriage.
And that is exactly what happened with Maci and Taylor.
- This is what we said, right?
- Yeah. Didn't we say that?
We know it all.
- Because we've been there.
- Yes, you got to schedule a date night.
- Got to have that.
- Were you guys physically connected?
Your intimacy was good and stuff?
- Oh.
- For me, physical connection is very important.
- Yep. [laughs]
- Aw, [bleep].
He not laying it down right? What's going on?
- It's my love language.
- Like, I don't need you to tell me I'm pretty
and say thank you.
Like, just grab my ass and give me a kiss on the cheek.
- Yeah. - We're good.
- [bleep]
- She said all she wanted was her ass slapped.
[laughs] - Yeah.
And she's like, she used--
- Maci, I knew you was a freak, girl.
I knew it.
- She's like, you can keep that thank you.
Smack my ass. - Yes.
Smack my ass, give me a hug.
- Yeah, I mean, I get it. - And I'm good.
- They have different love languages.
- Everybody needs--
- So if you're not loving someone
in their love language, they don't feel loved.
- Feel loved, yeah.
And then the other person can't really
understand it, because they don't
understand their language.
- Yeah.
- Now slap my ass and give me a hug.
- Tell me thank you and smack my ass.
I need both.
- We're very physically connected.
To hear it, but also show it.
- Feel it. Come on, Taylor.
Smack her ass, kiss her cheek.
- We talked a little bit about how
Taylor's relationship with Bentley,
you got lots of funny feelings about it.
- Yeah.
- The Bentley thief. - Yeah.
- Bentley thief.
- I can imagine you'd be a little jealous of that.
- Bentley's just getting older.
And it's one of those, you know,
there are certain things he doesn't want
to talk to me about.
- Would you be jealous if you were married
and your husband spent more time with the kids?
- Probably.
Mm-hmm. Like, hello?
What happened to me?
I would be grateful. - Listen.
- I'd be grateful. - I'd be grateful.
- But I'd be savage.
I'd be like, girl, I'm your mama.
- Well, Maci and Taylor, thank you so much
for joining us today.
- Good for her.
- Yeah?
- Come down.
Come here. - Can I get a besito?
- Can you bring it all the way over here?
- Cheeky. - Let me see how much you ate.
[gasps] - Cheeky!
- Can I have a-- look at that face.
- Hey, hey, hey, that's enough.
- Look at that face.
- Give me a kiss..
Excuse me.
- She loves her mama.
- What about me? - Don't you love your mama?
- OK, give Titi kiss 'cause she's jealous.
- Oh, I know.
- Give grandma a hug.
- Give me my Stella-la-la-la!
Gimme my Stella. - This is unfair.
This is unfair. - Gimme my Stella!
- Give me one more hug.
Where's your sister?
- She's upstairs.
- You OK? - Mm-hmm.
- Do you need anything? - Mm-mm.
- OK. Love you.
- Bye, cheeky. - Love you.
[applause]
- Oh, we about to see Josh and Mackenzie.
- Who?
Mm. Uh-uh.
- And we are back with the "Teen Mom OG" reunion.
And sitting with us now, we have Mackenzie
and her husband, Josh.
- Every time I see Josh, he looks different.
- He's not chewing tobacco here.
- I know, I noticed.
- Now, in your marriage, you and Josh
have had ups and downs.
How are things right now?
- Good, I think when we learned how to--
we figured out no one wants us together.
- What?
Who said that?
- Wait, say that again?
- I feel like no one really is
for us being together, just because of our--
- You mean your family, or social media, or--
- No, no, no, not my family. Social media.
- Who gives a damn? - Who gives a [bleep]?
- Dr. Drew's face.
I'm sorry. He's said, what?
- Dr. Drew be so fake confused.
It kills me.
Somebody give this man a damn Emmy.
- The whole time, he be confused.
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- When we can drown out the noise around us and just say,
OK, it doesn't matter what these people say.
What do we want in our heart?
What do we feel like?
When I was able to step away from that,
and focus just on our marriage, I think it was better.
- Damn.
We get trolls every single day on social media.
But I feel like we don't care what anyone says.
We ain't breaking up. - Don't pay attention to it.
- We don't-- we ain't breaking up.
We ain't paying attention to it.
- No, I mean, we're just not paying attention to it.
You can't pay attention to it.
- If you let the world talk, put stuff like that
into your head, your head was already
thinking stuff like that.
- If you're listening to what people are saying.
- Yeah. - Taking it in.
People have been telling me to leave Sean forever.
- Exactly. Who gives a [bleep]?
- Yeah, but if it's true love,
you got to stick it out together.
- That's my man, and I'm all right--
So this is your man? That's mines.
- That's mines.
- And I'ma ride this out.
- Like, who the [bleep] cares
if social media doesn't want you with your man?
- You got kids with him, lady.
- Like, not even that.
But like, [bleep] what a stranger says.
- Yeah, but it's hard.
People on the internet are no joke.
Seeing that every single day, hearing that every single day
takes a toll on you.
You could say it doesn't, but it does.
- Social media has just ruined these people's lives
- Yeah. - These young people.
- You have to know when to shut that thing down.
- If she knows that tuning into social media is a--
- But that's her business. That's her job.
She has to be on social media.
It's not like she could just turn it off.
If she could just turn it off,
I'm sure she wouldn't even bring it up.
But she works on social media.
She has a business, she runs it.
So if you have a business page, and then you look
at the comments and you're trying
to buy a workout program,
and then you see all these people talking [bleep],
it's just like, damn, it's hard.
- You're right. I didn't think of that one.
- I just want to make some money,
but here this bitch is saying I shouldn't be with Josh.
- Couples therapy ever?
Is that anything you guys have thought about?
- Mm-mm. - No.
- That's why they're not together now.
- He's the easiest person to take it out on.
Like, OK, today I'm grieving,
so let me just be angry about everything
Josh has done to me.
And so that was my tactic for a long time.
- I feel like Josh does not talk.
- Josh is giving us zero out of ten.
- And then when he talks, it's like,
"Yeah, I'm all right."
- Josh is giving us... - "I'm OK to be here."
- Nothing.
Like, I don't even know
what Josh said all season.
I ain't heard Josh all season.
- Josh doesn't want to be here, and it's OK.
It's OK, Josh. - It's a'ight, Josh.
- We appreciate you for showing up.
- It is what it is, what you guys did.
And now it's time to get on with it.
- What'd they do?
- Cheat on each other?
- I don't know. I'm lost.
- The kids are happiest when we're doing good.
both: Of course.
- Uh-uh, Dr. Drew. You owe me a soda.
[laughter]
- You don't have to do that.
Send that through the mail, Drew.
- Not the same time.
- We are now joined by Mackenzie's father, Brad.
Welcome, Brad.
- Whoo! I love Dad.
- Aw. - Aww, Brad.
- I love Brad. I love Brad.
- How do you feel about these guys,
and what they're doing down in Florida,
and their relationship?
- I just want you guys to know how proud I am of you.
I've heard what they was talking about,
people on social media,
thinking that they need to split.
And I look at it and think,
why would you throw all that work
and everything you guys have been through away?
- Over a couple comments.
- So if he wants them to work it out,
they should try to work it out
and not let other people from the outside...
- Interfere. - Interfere.
- I mean, he lost the love of his life.
- Yeah.
- And these two are supposed to be, like,
in love or love each other.
And they're just going to call it quits
after--like the father said,
everything they've been through.
Why are you calling it quits now?
Like, why?
- 'Cause some people don't view love the same.
Like, in that situation,
I feel like love would be a choice.
- But he's very old-school too.
- They don't make them like they used to.
- Like, nowadays, they're just like, oh,
if it doesn't work out, that's it, we're done.
- Yeah, but you know how I say, like,
love is an emotional choice?
In this case, it'd be a choice because you have
to choose to work on it.
- With your partner, yeah.
- So some people may not look at love like that.
They may just be like, it's a feeling
and I don't feel it anymore.
- Thank you so much, Mackenzie, Josh, and Brad,
for being here today.
- Josh. - He's not saying [bleep].
I was just thinking that.
- Somebody gave me a thing,
so I can hold up a "Boo, Josh" sign.
Boo, Josh!
- And on that note, we've reached the end
of this reunion and another incredible season
of "Teen Mom OG."
- You know what? That's all right.
'Cause, Josh, I know where you park your car.
- Why do you always go to the car?
- That was the finale.
Great. - Well, I guess that's a wrap.
[laughter]
- That's a wrap.
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