1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,600 This time we've got two of the best new gen electric vans. 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,320 They're big, they're clever, but can they go do the distance? 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,960 Seventy four percent of electric charge. 4 00:00:13,040 --> 00:00:14,920 I'll write this down so I don't forget. 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:16,880 And which one do we like best? 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,320 Somebody's properly thought this through. 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:20,560 Yeah. I love it. 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:26,160 VW's IV5, on paper, it's the SUV you want. 9 00:00:26,240 --> 00:00:29,400 But we don't live on paper. So, is it any good? 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,400 Does it feel like a 50-odd thousand pound car? 11 00:00:33,480 --> 00:00:34,600 No. 12 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,600 And can Tesla's first EV 13 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,080 match the pace and poise of the petrol, Lotus Elise, 14 00:00:41,160 --> 00:00:43,240 the car on which it is developed from. 15 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,280 These are just epic. 16 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,640 (THEME MUSIC PLAYING) 17 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:51,120 This is Fifth Gear. 18 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:52,360 But with a difference. 19 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,120 There'll still be screaming. 20 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:55,760 (SCREAMING) 21 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:56,920 And squealing. 22 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,720 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 23 00:00:58,800 --> 00:00:59,960 And shouting. 24 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,680 JASON: Stupid idea. I can't listen to this nonsense. 25 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,160 But there'll also be this. 26 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,800 (ENGINE HUMMING) 27 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:11,920 The EV revolution is here. 28 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,920 Are all electric vehicles right for you? 29 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,040 What are the costs, choices and challenges? 30 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,360 And how do they stack up against their petrol-powered rivals? 31 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,720 We're here to tell you everything you need to know 32 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,720 about the new automotive landscape. 33 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,520 This is the future of driving. 34 00:01:31,960 --> 00:01:33,960 This is Fifth Gear Recharged. 35 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:39,880 VICKI (NARRATING): Last year, 36 00:01:39,960 --> 00:01:41,960 the Fifth Gear Mario Brothers, Jason and Jimmy... 37 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,280 I like your hat. In fact, I like your khaki colour. 38 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:45,520 It's nice, innit? 39 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,160 ..tried out two fully electric vans and they weren't impressed 40 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,480 because you couldn't even get 100 miles between charges. 41 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,160 The range is 82 miles. 42 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,720 82 miles? That isn't great, is it? 43 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,200 VICKI (NARRATING): In fact, that figure halved, 44 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,600 once they loaded up some washing machines. 45 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,280 Well, we've lost a mile already. 46 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,960 Pretty quickly to the two. It's gone again! 47 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,640 VICKI (NARRATING): But now a new breed of EV van is emerging 48 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,760 that claims to go further between recharges. 49 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,480 We've grabbed the two leading contenders 50 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,320 to find out if they're a step forward, 51 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,040 should you want to lug some goods around. 52 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,080 This is the Fiat E-Ducato. 53 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,480 Now, the Ducato name has been around for over 40 years, 54 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:31,320 and the manufacturer says that this is the best selling van in Europe, 55 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,480 with 150,000 sales per year. 56 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:35,600 Yeah, but let's be honest. 57 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:36,840 If you're going to buy a van, 58 00:02:36,920 --> 00:02:38,560 you want one with the Transit badge on it. 59 00:02:38,640 --> 00:02:41,120 It's been around since 1965 60 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,880 and they've built over 8.5 million of these. 61 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,120 Come on, it's a no-brainer. 62 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:49,280 But is it going to be as good now it's the called the 'E Transit'? 63 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:50,880 Fiat first? Why not? 64 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,560 VICKI (NARRATING): We'll be doing three tests today. 65 00:02:53,640 --> 00:02:57,040 The first, we'll discover what the vans are like to live with. 66 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,160 Ergonomically, immediately, 67 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,080 I have brushed myself against the handbrake, 68 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,280 which is quite protruding down there. 69 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,360 So, a couple of bits I spotted straight away, 70 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,800 that there, it's got to be the Italian espresso holder, isn't it? 71 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,280 Because your latte is definitely not going to stay in there. 72 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:14,360 No, I agree with that. 73 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,640 And, then other thing was, like, what's going on here? 74 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,120 What is that doing? 75 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,520 And then, you've got that thing in the corner with a wire, 76 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,760 like, a visible wire coming out the back. 77 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,360 It's like they drilled the hole in 78 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,880 to stick that panel in for the EV into it. 79 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,000 VICKI (NARRATING): First impressions are that 80 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,960 it lacks a little polish and practicality. 81 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,360 Right, let's get my big van head on. 82 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,080 But perhaps things will improve on the road. 83 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,080 (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING) 84 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,720 To assess the range of our electric vans, 85 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,080 we drove them the same seven mile route 86 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:49,520 around Milton Keynes, 87 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,080 the kind of urban, multi-drop environment 88 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,320 that these vehicles have been designed for. 89 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,920 Crucially, because of the roundabouts, 90 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,480 and the number of traffic lights, 91 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,400 your laden foot will be vaguely kept under control. 92 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:03,960 (MUFFLED CHEERING) 93 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,440 VICKI (NARRATING): We'll take a note of the battery level 94 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:07,840 at the start of our journey. 95 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,280 Seventy-four percent of the battery charge. 96 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,160 I'll write these down so I don't forget. 97 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,840 VICKI (NARRATING): And then we'll see what it's dropped to by the end 98 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,920 and calculate the real-world range... 99 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,080 at least our version of it. 100 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:23,720 We are in Eco-mode, regen... On? 101 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,360 On. Everything's on. Yep. 102 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,120 VICKI (NARRATING): Would van men and women, please note, 103 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:34,240 Eco-mode limits the E-Ducato to 50 miles an hour top speed, 104 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,680 and nought to 30 takes 6 seconds. 105 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,880 So, more tortoise than hare. 106 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,840 So, we have two trim levels available in this van, 107 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:44,720 an entry level and then this, 108 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,640 which is the E-technico. 109 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,400 And for that, you get, 110 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,880 Apple CarPlay and Auto-Android, 111 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,440 you get a Sat Nav... Ooh. 112 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,560 ..and a leather steering wheel. 113 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,440 But to be honest with you, this just feels really plasticky. 114 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,080 It's probably pleather. An unusual cow, that's for sure. 115 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:04,200 (LAUGHS) 116 00:05:04,280 --> 00:05:06,480 So, I don't feel that I'm being cosseted. 117 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:07,560 No. 118 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,000 VICKI (NARRATING): Mind you, you would expect a bit of luxury, 119 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,280 when you consider this van costs 70,000 pounds, 120 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,720 and that includes a 5,000 pound government grant. 121 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,040 Alright, Vicks, we're coming back to our start point. 122 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,280 We've done just about seven miles. Yep. 123 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,960 So, what is your percentage? 124 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,880 My percentage is 68 percent. 125 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,120 Right, so you have used up 126 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,840 six percent of your battery. OK. 127 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,880 KARUN (NARRATING): Based on our drive, 128 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,680 it means the van should be good for 116 miles between charges, 129 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,160 which ties in with Fiat's own figures. 130 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:48,080 They estimate the E-Ducato's 47 kilowatt battery 131 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:52,200 will deliver a range between 102 and 139 miles. 132 00:05:52,280 --> 00:05:55,000 Things have certainly moved on since the Mario Brothers 133 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:56,760 first tested e-vans. 134 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:00,400 How does the E-Transit compare? 135 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,840 The Transit is a legend in the world of vans 136 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,720 with almost a million currently on British roads. 137 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,320 Can this Transit carry on that weighty reputation? 138 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,720 The E-Transit's cheaper than the Fiat, 139 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,680 but only by five grand. 140 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,320 Now, I've got 98 percent, 141 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,440 as we set off on our journey. 142 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,120 And this tells me I could do apparently 156 miles. 143 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:25,360 KARUN (NARRATING): Ford say 144 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:30,200 the Transit should be good for between 166 and 196 miles. 145 00:06:30,280 --> 00:06:33,880 Hopefully, the van's computer will take a more optimistic view 146 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,120 as our trip around Milton Keynes continues. 147 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,520 Vicki seems more excited about the van 148 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,480 than its range though. 149 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,160 Karun, I need to show you so much about this thing. 150 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,240 You have got loads of storage space up here. 151 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:48,360 Magazines? 152 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,000 Magazines, clipboards. 153 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:51,640 Oh, clipboards, for delivery people. 154 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:52,720 Yeah. Good. Good. 155 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,280 And actually the dough pockets are easier to reach, isn't it? 156 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:56,520 OK. 157 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,400 Now, one thing that is hugely different 158 00:06:58,480 --> 00:06:59,880 between this and the Fiat, 159 00:06:59,960 --> 00:07:03,360 is the Ford has got 261 horsepower. 160 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,880 Now, that's more than double... Wow. 161 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,440 ..the Fiat's got. Yeah. 162 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,520 KARUN (NARRATING): And it's got more torque 163 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,240 at 430 newton-metres, 164 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,600 compared to the Ducato's 280. 165 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,440 And, so this is more powerful, 166 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:17,560 it's got more torque, 167 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:18,680 but it's cheaper. 168 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:19,840 And it's cheaper. 169 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,520 It's five grand cheaper than the Fiat. 170 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,000 KARUN (NARRATING): On top of that, 171 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,760 it's only seven grand more than the equivalent diesel. 172 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,400 The fact that battery technology is still expensive... 173 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,440 the reality is, 7,000 is not a lot. 174 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,280 KARUN (NARRATING): And there's more good stuff. 175 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:37,680 I love the fact 176 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,680 that they've basically nicked the 12-inch screen 177 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,400 from the (INDISTINCT). 178 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:43,720 Yes, yeah, exactly. 179 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,000 And you can get over the air updates on it, 180 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,760 you can work out when you plug in, 181 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,280 where's available. 182 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,240 KARUN (NARRATING): And the screen lets you access three drive modes. 183 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,480 You've got the Normal, you've got Eco, 184 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,720 and then you've got a Wet mode, actually. 185 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,760 It's slippery. Yeah. It's slippery. I love it. 186 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,640 Which, basically, is for people who aren't used to EVs 187 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,280 and that instant acceleration, 188 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,080 and it just manages it all. 189 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,640 Somebody's properly thought this through. 190 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,840 This is it, we're done. Done and dusted. 191 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,280 So, I've used just three percent of my battery 192 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:17,880 to do our seven mile drive, 193 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,240 which on paper, you know, 194 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,880 well, that's only half the number of percentage that you have. 195 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,680 However, this does have a bigger battery. 196 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,560 It's got a 68 kilowatt hour battery. 197 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,480 KARUN (NARRATING): Based on our little test, 198 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:33,160 the Transit could cover up to 200 miles between recharges, 199 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,400 around twice what the E-Ducato could do. 200 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,560 Although, you could argue it's got a bigger battery, 201 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,320 it's also a cheaper van. 202 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:41,840 So, that's not cheating. 203 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,200 It's time for a verdict on our Test One, 204 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,760 which is how good the vans are delivered. 205 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,640 You've probably guessed out victor. 206 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:50,560 Ah, thanks for breakfast. 207 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,840 I don't actually eat bacon, so you can have both of them. 208 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,760 Yes! Result. (MAKES COMICAL SLIDING SOUNDS) 209 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,000 Um, so... 210 00:08:58,080 --> 00:08:59,800 Up front, I found that the Ford 211 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:01,640 was more comfortable and more special. 212 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:02,800 Well, yeah. 213 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,960 I mean, it just felt like they'd made an effort. 214 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,040 The touch screen was really good, 215 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,040 the cubby holes were easily reachable. 216 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:11,600 And, you know, the fact that the range 217 00:09:11,680 --> 00:09:14,160 is going to be pushing 200 miles, 218 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:15,480 that's pretty good. 219 00:09:15,560 --> 00:09:18,920 So, the winner for this one then is the Ford E-Transit. 220 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,120 I think the winner is you with your double bacon role. 221 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:22,200 (CHUCKLES) 222 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,000 VICKI (NARRATING): Bacon butties aside, 223 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:25,880 there's more to play for in this challenge. 224 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,080 Join us later, 225 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,200 when we turn out attentions to the rear of the vans. 226 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,280 I mean, feel free to give them a hand, Karun. 227 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,560 I'm not qualified. I haven't got gloves. (CHUCKLES) 228 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,560 VICKI (NARRATING): Let's see which one 229 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,840 is actually better at carrying stuff. 230 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,880 JASON (NARRATING): Now, it's time to get a first look 231 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,320 and a first drive of a brand new car. 232 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,600 Yes, it's the Fifth Gear Recharged Team Test. 233 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:57,920 So, this week, the team tested the new Volkswagen ID 5. 234 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,760 The ID 5 is VW's big brother to the popular ID 3 and 4. 235 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,480 It's a five seater SUV starting at 49,000 pounds, 236 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:12,320 but ours is the max spec, which is seven grand more. 237 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:17,080 VW is really gunning for that prized Tesla territory, 238 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:21,040 and the ID 5 has a claimed range of 313 miles. 239 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,040 Should you choose this car over a Model Y? 240 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,160 What comes after three and four? BOTH: Five. 241 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:31,080 And that's what it is. It's the VW ID 5, their EV. 242 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,000 It's a bit like a four to here, really. 243 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,400 A bit? It's exactly the same. SID: It's exactly the same. 244 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,200 (MAKES COMICAL WHIRRING SOUNDS) 245 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,280 Up to here, it's absolutely identical to the 4. 246 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,800 And then it's got one of these slopy-backed coupe styles. 247 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:46,320 Yeah. What do you think. You like it? 248 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,000 Well, this is their electric SUV, 249 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,600 and I don't think 250 00:10:50,680 --> 00:10:53,160 it is the most stylish thing I have ever seen. 251 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:54,760 I just think it's clunky. 252 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,800 That's quite strong. Wow, that is strong. 253 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,920 These doors, they're so deep, they're so high, 254 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,960 and that's almost breast height for me. 255 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,080 And what are you're think from inside it might be a bit claustrophobic? 256 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaking of doors though, 257 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,400 I quite like these flash door handles. 258 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,320 I know it's not much, but it's kinda cool. 259 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,360 You're right, it's not much, Sid. 260 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:13,960 He's easy-peasy boy, isn't he? 261 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,040 But look at it. Look at the door handles. It's cool. 262 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,640 I was never a fan of the ID 4, it was too boxy. 263 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,520 But I do actually prefer the back end of the ID 5. 264 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,040 I like that swoopiness, it looks a bit more sporty like. 265 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,080 Show us your rear. Let's have a look. 266 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:28,160 Do you know what? 267 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,680 I don't think any of us particularly like the looks of the car. 268 00:11:31,560 --> 00:11:33,600 Now, this is a bit weird. 269 00:11:33,680 --> 00:11:35,600 This is good, they've got... This is quite cool. 270 00:11:35,680 --> 00:11:37,440 They've got a little net there. ..net thing. 271 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:38,600 GRACE: What's that for? 272 00:11:38,680 --> 00:11:40,560 Well, you can put stuff under it, 273 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,480 and it's got a zip, and you can put Jason in it. 274 00:11:43,560 --> 00:11:44,600 Imagine that. 275 00:11:44,680 --> 00:11:46,080 It's just with stuff? 276 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:47,200 Yeah. It's for your milk. 277 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,200 For your stuff that moves around. For your milk? 278 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:50,640 Get in the car. Alright. 279 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,080 Get in the car. Alright! 280 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:53,800 Come on, we've got driving to do. 281 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,000 GRACE: Mm. 282 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:56,560 Who ordered the brown? 283 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:57,680 No. I like it. 284 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,160 I love brown when it's down nicely. 285 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,000 This, just a little strip there, strip there. 286 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,680 Do you not like that? There's too much going on. 287 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,120 Nah, I'm all for it. 288 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,080 This is funny, this is interesting, 289 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:10,880 because I don't find that offensive at all. 290 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:15,320 Now, see the interior has got this brown and black two-tone. 291 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,120 I didn't find that that bad actually. 292 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,200 I quite liked it in a way, but the girls, they didn't, 293 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:22,600 which I don't understand. 294 00:12:22,680 --> 00:12:23,840 Because for me, 295 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,680 that was probably one of the nicest things about the car. 296 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,200 Me and Jason were Team Brown Interior Two Tone. 297 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,960 Can we have some air con on, please, because it's jolly hot. 298 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:34,040 It is, isn't it? 299 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,360 Well, that comes with a problem when you put the air con on 300 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:37,560 because there are no knobs. 301 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,240 This has the same sort of style, like, all the new VWs have, 302 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:41,600 like the ID 3. 303 00:12:41,680 --> 00:12:44,520 And the biggest pain is the fact that, you know, 304 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,520 that panel doesn't illuminate at night. 305 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,480 For the temperature control, so you lit... 306 00:12:48,560 --> 00:12:50,520 it's a major distraction. What, this one here? 307 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,920 Well, you're driving around and you want to get more volume 308 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,120 and you're like, "Ugh, ugh. 309 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:55,640 What do I press and what am I sliding? 310 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,000 Big sun roof. That's nice. Yeah. 311 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,440 Can you close the blind half way? I don't know how to do it. 312 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,240 It's up there. It's touch as well, by the way. You've got to stroke it. 313 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:03,840 That's touch too? 314 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:05,480 Are you ready? No, don't go too far. 315 00:13:05,560 --> 00:13:07,040 I'm going to stop. Oh, stop, I'm done. 316 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,120 Um, in the back, I'm doing OK... Yeah, I'm good. 317 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:11,360 But I'm five, five and a half. 318 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:12,960 Yeah, I'm over six foot. 319 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:14,160 I've got head room. 320 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,200 Are you really over six foot? I am. 321 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,760 Because I'm six foot exactly. Nah, I'm taller than you. 322 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,600 That's only because you wear heels. No, it's got nothing to do with it. 323 00:13:22,680 --> 00:13:24,520 Moving on, moving on. Ready? Ready. I'm ready. 324 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,600 Go. Yow-wee. 325 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:30,600 How does it feel behind the wheel? 326 00:13:30,680 --> 00:13:32,120 JASON: It's OK. 327 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,720 Steering's nice when in Sport mode. 328 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,480 It's got a nice weight to it, but it's not quick. 329 00:13:37,560 --> 00:13:39,080 It wants to do everything for you. 330 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,000 I want to tell it what to do. GRACE: Yeah. 331 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:42,680 I want to tell it what mode I want. 332 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,560 I want to turn the traction control off. 333 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,600 I want to do my regen braking. 334 00:13:46,680 --> 00:13:47,680 Yeah. 335 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,000 Do you know what I mean? Yeah. 336 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:50,760 It's too clever for its own good. 337 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,680 They've tried to make everything so simple. 338 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:53,760 Yeah. 339 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:55,240 But I... It's too simple now. 340 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,160 So, they haven't got buttons up front? 341 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,720 You have got an improved voice recognition system. 342 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,160 Do you want to try it out? Yes. 343 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:03,960 Here we go. I've got buttons somewhere. 344 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,280 Can you turn the air conditioner to maximum and cool us down, 345 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:10,920 because we're roasting idly? 346 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,120 (CHUCKLING) 347 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,200 OK. So, supposedly it's on max now. 348 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,800 It understood what you just said. Oh my gosh. 349 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:21,120 Surprisingly. 350 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,920 Set air conditioning to warm me up. 351 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,200 COMPUTERISED VOICE: Sorry. 352 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:28,840 'Sorry' what? 353 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:29,920 You know, by and large, 354 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:31,680 I have an issue with voice control in cars, 355 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,040 because it simply doesn't work. 356 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,880 And, you know, VW have made a claim that this works better than the rest. 357 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:38,200 Again, it simply doesn't. 358 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,120 JASON (NARRATING): We better edit this bit, 359 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:41,960 just in case I use a bad word. 360 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:43,040 I'm hot. 361 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,120 We know you are, Plato. 362 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,000 COMPUTER: Sorry, this is the minimum temperature. 363 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:49,800 SID AND VICKI: Oh. 364 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,720 Well, guess what? It ain't cold enough. 365 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,600 Jason had a play around with the voice recognition. 366 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,320 He's not the world's most patient man, 367 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,000 and this tested his patience. 368 00:14:59,960 --> 00:15:01,040 JASON: Shut up. 369 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,120 Everything inside the car, doesn't have any buttons. 370 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,680 I think the only buttons that exist on it 371 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,280 is the window switches. 372 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:09,560 That's it. 373 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,400 JASON (NARRATING): It would be great to find something decent to say. 374 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,200 What about the range? Let's talk about the range. 375 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:19,800 We need some proper buttons or at least some illumination, 376 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:21,760 particularly when you're driving at night. 377 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,320 Nearly three years down the line, you'd think that VW would go, 378 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:25,400 "Do you know what? 379 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:26,960 "We need to put buttons back in this". 380 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,160 And they haven't. And it's really frustrating. 381 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:30,840 The system is not intuitive. 382 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,800 JASON (NARRATING): No. There's just moaning. 383 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:34,920 Well, do you know what? 384 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,840 We can only review the car as delivered and as tested. 385 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,440 And just, remind how much it is again. Remind me? 386 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:45,240 55,000 pounds for an ID 5. 387 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,760 JASON (NARRATING): Is everybody tired or is the ID 5 making us grumpy? 388 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,200 Let's get the team scores. 389 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,560 So, the ID 5 is a family car, 390 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,320 and it does have good statistics for that. 391 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,560 It has over 300 miles of range, 392 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,840 and it does have features that support a family. 393 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,920 And I do think Volkswagen's heart is in the right place. 394 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:10,320 Unfortunately, it's not a particularly good car. 395 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,800 OK, it's got good claimed range. 396 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,800 But to use every day, 397 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:16,960 to live with, 398 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,760 I think it would just drive you absolutely mad. 399 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,800 I have to say with a heavy heart that I'm not impressed with this. 400 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,200 I am usually a VW fan. 401 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,120 I was hoping for more. 402 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,400 I was hoping for this car to sparkle. It doesn't. 403 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,320 I don't like the dashboard, I don't like the infotainment, 404 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:34,720 I don't like the switchgear. 405 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,080 I do like the gear selector knob on top of the main dashboard, 406 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:39,280 that's a nice touch. 407 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,760 But all these other things are just annoying. 408 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,240 Oh, I was going to give it a five for an ID 5, 409 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,680 but I don't even think it deserves that. 410 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,200 So, I'm going to give it a 4.5. 411 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:51,800 Have I done that the right way around? 412 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:52,880 No. 413 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,240 (LAUGHING) 414 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:56,920 VW, if you're listening, 415 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,600 please, please, please put buttons back in the car, 416 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,560 because that's the reason why it's getting a three. 417 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,360 Overall, I'm going to give the ID 5, 418 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,200 which costs about 55,000 pounds 419 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,040 a five. 420 00:17:14,120 --> 00:17:17,280 So, the ID 5 is going to get a poor score. 421 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,200 It's going to get a four. 422 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:21,960 Remember, that car's over 50 grand. 423 00:17:23,360 --> 00:17:27,280 JASON (NARRATING): 16.5 out of 40 is a pretty poor score. 424 00:17:27,360 --> 00:17:28,880 It certainly looks like VW 425 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,280 can't make a great spec translate into a great car. 426 00:17:32,360 --> 00:17:33,360 Shame. 427 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,800 JASON: Coming up, our EV van challenge continues. 428 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:41,200 (GASPS) That went in pretty easy. 429 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:42,800 That's gone in a treat, hasn't it? 430 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,880 (THEME MUSIC PLAYING) 431 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:47,250 00:17:48.200 -- 00:17:50.840 (THEME MUSIC PLAYING) 432 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,040 VICKI (NARRATING): Welcome back to our EV van challenge, 433 00:17:57,120 --> 00:18:01,160 which pits Fiat's E-Ducato against Ford's E-Transit. 434 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,440 We want to know if they're up to the job 435 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,400 when it comes to a hard day's work. 436 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,120 This just feels really plasticky. 437 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:09,560 It's probably pleather. 438 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,680 An unusual cow, that's for sure. (LAUGHS) 439 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,320 KARUN (NARRATING): And so far, both have delivered adequate range 440 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,560 when driven over a stop-start route. 441 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,600 This is more powerful, it's got more torque, 442 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:20,680 but it's cheaper. 443 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:21,760 It's cheaper. 444 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,240 KARUN (NARRATING): But the E-Transit was the clear winner, 445 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,600 because the cabin was a better place to be. 446 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,560 And thanks to a better battery, 447 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,000 it can travel around twice the distance on a single charge. 448 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,080 And to rub salt into the Fiat's wounds, 449 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,480 it's also 5,000 pounds cheaper. 450 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,840 But you don't just buys vans to feel happy, 451 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:40,680 you buy them to carry stuff. 452 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:42,640 For our second test, 453 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,280 we're going to check how good our vans are 454 00:18:45,360 --> 00:18:46,680 at swallowing a large load. 455 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,320 And we have come to a DIY store, 456 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,720 because building materials come in all sorts of shapes and sizes. 457 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,920 Now, it's not just about volume, is it, Vicks? 458 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,440 It's about also seeing how easy it is 459 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:58,920 to load up these vans. 460 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,280 Yep, and also about paid load... 461 00:19:00,360 --> 00:19:01,880 Yep. ..the weight that they can carry. 462 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:03,720 I will be keeping score. OK. 463 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:04,960 First of all... Yeah? 464 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:06,760 ..how many anchor points have you got? 465 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,040 Ooh. 466 00:19:08,120 --> 00:19:10,280 One, two, three. 467 00:19:10,360 --> 00:19:13,480 Four, five, six, seven. 468 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,560 Seven, eight, nine. 469 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,320 That's it. I got nine. What have you got? 470 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:20,920 Fifteen What?! 471 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,240 I've got nine. 472 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:26,760 Nine? Not even double figures? Oh, di, doje. Oh, dear. Aww. 473 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,600 Yes, yes, yes. Very good. 474 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,800 Fine, one point to the Fiat. 475 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:32,880 (SIGHS) 476 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,000 What's next? 477 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:35,640 Ease of loading. Ooh. 478 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,440 KARUN (NARRATING): Anyone who's loaded up a van, 479 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:39,760 or a car for that matter, 480 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,000 will know that the distance 481 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:42,840 you have lift the luggage off the ground, 482 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,680 makes a big difference to the effort involved. 483 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,280 Here, I'm going to get my measuring stick. 484 00:19:49,360 --> 00:19:51,440 And although you've got this sort of little lip 485 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,200 to help you get in, 486 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:54,760 when you get to the top, what's that? 487 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,520 One seventy. Yep. 488 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,400 (HUMMING) Dee, dee, dee, dee, dee, dee, dee, dee. 489 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:01,520 One sixty-two. 490 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,160 So, that is almost ten centimetres lower, 491 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:06,920 which is better for loading. 492 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,400 Yep, two points for Fiat. 493 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,080 This is a lot of winning happening here. 494 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:11,480 Doing... Doing good so far. 495 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:15,840 Let's get some stuff in here. Yep. 496 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:16,920 See what we can fit. OK. 497 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,640 Whoa, whoa, whoa. It's manual labour. It's not my department. 498 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,240 So we have the lovely Dave and Cara. Yep. 499 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,880 Currently bringing in a fence panel, 500 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,040 six foot by six foot. 501 00:20:27,120 --> 00:20:28,560 (GASPS) That went it pretty easy. 502 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,160 That's gone in a treat, hasn't it? 503 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,680 And are these MDF boards? 504 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,280 Uh, uh, uh. They're not. No? 505 00:20:34,360 --> 00:20:36,960 These are not MDF, darling. These are OSBs. 506 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:38,400 Oh, you are so educated... 507 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,040 I know. ..in the DIY world. 508 00:20:40,120 --> 00:20:42,760 Thank you. Any way, they're eight foot by four foot. 509 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,400 And they are quite heavy, and they've gone in a treat as well. 510 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,080 Should we go look next door? Yeah. 511 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,520 Thank you very much, team. Time to do the Ford. 512 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:52,800 Right, I'm fairly concerned 513 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,360 that these guys are going to battle a bit more to get into this. 514 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,640 Oh, yeah. I think they definitely will have a struggle. 515 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,960 As clearly illustrated here. So... 516 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,680 Oh, it's actually rubbing against the roof already. 517 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:04,800 Yeah. 518 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,440 And, you can't actually prop it up against the side... 519 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:08,560 Oh, interesting. 520 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,120 ..like they could with the other one. 521 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,360 So, that's not going to work. 522 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:12,720 Yeah, just leave it there, guys. 523 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,720 I mean, feel free to give them a hand, Karun. 524 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,680 I'm not qualified. I haven't got gloves. 525 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,200 (BOTH LAUGHING) 526 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,160 I'm not surprised that you are struggling, 527 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,600 because you aren't as big as the Fiat. 528 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,280 The Fiat's got 13 cubic metres of space in here, and you have got... 529 00:21:28,360 --> 00:21:29,440 Eleven. 530 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,040 So, that's going to have to go. Whoop! 531 00:21:31,120 --> 00:21:32,520 Karun, it almost got involved. 532 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,120 I touched it. I touched it. I touched the fence. 533 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:36,800 VICKI (NARRATING): The Ford loading bay 534 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,800 is 15 centimetres shorter, 535 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,480 and ten centimetres narrower than the Fiat. 536 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,280 There is a high roof version available on the Ford 537 00:21:44,360 --> 00:21:46,040 for around a thousand pounds. 538 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,880 So, I think we can pretty conclusively say 539 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,680 another point for the Fiat. Yes. 540 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,880 Should we go some big, fat payloads in? 541 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,240 Yep, off you go. 542 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:55,760 Hey! Hey! (LAUGHS) 543 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,000 VICKI (NARRATING): The Ford has already lost the load test. 544 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,680 However, will it recover a bit of pride, 545 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,680 when it comes to dealing with weight? 546 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,800 Right, what we've got is a bag, which is just about a tonne. 547 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:13,880 So, the Ducato can have 1,060 kilograms of weight. 548 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,160 And the lovely Sam is going to deposit 549 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,960 a thousand kilograms in there now. 550 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:21,800 Oh. 551 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,040 I mean, that is precision... 552 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,120 before it goes, 'Donk'. 553 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,320 Oh, wow. Ooh! 554 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:31,840 See how much that moved? Yeah. 555 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,160 KARUN (NARRATING): Perhaps it's not surprising 556 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:35,440 that the van groaned a bit 557 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,720 as our bag is only 60 kilos short of the maximum weight permitted. 558 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,280 How will the Transit fare? 559 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,120 Well, let's check the suspension then as this drops down. 560 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:48,840 I like seeing that, 561 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:53,560 because you can really see the impact that the weight has on the van. 562 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:54,960 (FORKLIFT BEEPING) Brilliant. 563 00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:01,080 VICKI (NARRATING): So, the Fiat can take 1,060 kilograms. 564 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,720 And the Ford, 980kg. 565 00:23:04,360 --> 00:23:07,160 That is an 80 kilogram difference. 566 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:11,960 Right then, what's the conclusion? 567 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,200 Well, it's not looking great for the Transit. 568 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:15,480 VICKI (NARRATING): In fact, 569 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,600 it's lost all of its load-based tests. 570 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,480 The suspension seemed to manage the bag of sand well, 571 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,800 but the Ducato can handle more weight. 572 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,560 So, it's clean sweep here for the Fiat. 573 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:26,840 The scores are one all. Yeah. 574 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:27,920 Should we go on the road 575 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,240 and see what they're like now we've got a bit of load in it? 576 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:31,360 Oh, yeah. Right, let's go. 577 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:33,800 KARUN (NARRATING): Join us later 578 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,280 when we discover whether the range and performance 579 00:23:36,360 --> 00:23:39,120 falls to the floor once we've got a bit of work to do. 580 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,040 And, which is the overall winner of our EV vans challenge? 581 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:45,680 JASON: Coming up, 582 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,160 an intriguing sports car head-to-head... Lotus versus Tesla. 583 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,000 (SUSPENSE MUSIC PLAYING) 584 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,720 That's just brilliant. 585 00:23:59,000 --> 00:23:59,250 00:24:00.720 -- 00:24:03.720 (THEME MUSIC PLAYING) 586 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,640 JASON: One track, two cars, and a stop watch... 587 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:12,880 which could only mean one thing. 588 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:13,960 It's time 589 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,160 for the Fifth Gear Recharged Shootout. 590 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,960 This time we've got two pure sports cars 591 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,200 going head-to-head. 592 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,200 One is an iconic petrol-powered legend. 593 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,400 The other, an electric trailblazer. 594 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:29,560 The Lotus Elise 595 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,120 is one of the finest handling sports cars ever made. 596 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:34,760 And it's been a huge success for Lotus. 597 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:41,640 But sadly, production ended in 2021 after an astonishing 25-year run. 598 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,600 JASON (NARRATING): This one is named after Lotus' famous F1 driver, 599 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:51,240 it's the 2009 Jim Clark Special Limited Edition, 600 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,240 with a supercharged 1.8 litre petrol engine, 601 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,480 making it to 224 horsepower. 602 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,160 But that might not sound like much these days. 603 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,320 But remember, this car weights less than a tonne, 604 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,000 which is why the fly-weight Lotus 605 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,280 can get to 60 in just 4.5 seconds. 606 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,680 Now, pitched against the Elise is the Tesla Roadster. 607 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,560 Now, this was launched in 2008, 608 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,400 and it was Tesla's first venture into electric cars. 609 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,680 Now, you might think it looks a wee-bit like the Elise. 610 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,320 Well, that's because Lotus helped build it. 611 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,840 JASON (NARRATING): The original idea was to electrify an Elise. 612 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:30,880 But by the end of the project, 613 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:35,680 only six percent of components actually made it into the Tesla. 614 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,400 Lotus' founder, Colin Chapman, was all about saving weight, 615 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,600 but EV struggled to keep weight down. 616 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,400 So, will this Tesla, with more power, measure up? 617 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,680 The Tesla might be heavier than the Lotus, 618 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,520 but with its 288 horsepower electric motor, 619 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,760 the Roadster can hit 60 in under 4 seconds. 620 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,600 So, this should be interesting. 621 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:03,960 On paper, 622 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,200 the electric Tesla beats the Lotus 623 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,480 but it has 300 kilograms 624 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:09,720 of extra weight, 625 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,400 and it's 67 grand more expensive. 626 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,000 Around the track, 627 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,240 will its extra power be enough to make up for its extra weight? 628 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,560 Well, there's only one way to find out. 629 00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:30,600 First up then, The Lotus Elise. 630 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,760 Oh my god! 631 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,840 These are just out there. 632 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,680 These have got, by any standards... 633 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,920 one of the finest handling in the world by Lotus road cars... 634 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,520 that's ever been created. 635 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,520 I can feel everything about the car. 636 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,040 I can feel it breaking traction on the rear, 637 00:26:58,120 --> 00:26:59,920 I can feel little bits of understeer, 638 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,960 I can feel how the nose dips, 639 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,320 I can feel all the little bumps and undulations. 640 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,840 I can feel the grip (INDISTINCT). 641 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,200 You just feel everything. 642 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,120 Not just in your hands, 643 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,320 but in your bum, in your ribs. 644 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,200 Everywhere. 645 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,240 JASON (NARRATING): Time for a fast lap. 646 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,840 (BEEPING) 647 00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:28,200 I don't care what the lap time is, I really don't, 648 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,080 because it's just so fun to drive. 649 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,800 It's just brilliant. 650 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,000 It's pure driving. 651 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,520 It's razor sharp with it steering, 652 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,160 and it's really a brilliant bit of kit. 653 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,680 Oh my... 654 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:50,840 That... 655 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,520 Stop the watch. 656 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,000 JASON (NARRATING): The Elise crosses the line in 49.81 seconds. 657 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,440 Now, for the Tesla. 658 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:12,160 Now, the Lotus was about 36,000 pounds when it was new. 659 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,440 But this Tesla, well... 660 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:20,200 That was a much more eye-watering 103,000 pounds. 661 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,120 Big difference, huh? 662 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,840 But the Tesla was the first ever road car... 663 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,160 to feature lithium iron batteries. 664 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,440 And when you consider that in 2008... 665 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,200 boy, oh, boy, was this a ground-breaking bit of kit. 666 00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:41,000 The trouble is that technology comes at a price. 667 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,400 And that price is weight. 668 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:53,160 At less than a tonne, The Elise is a very light car. 669 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,360 The Tesla, well it's 300 kilograms heavier, 670 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:02,720 but it does have extra horsepower and gets all that torque from zero. 671 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:11,200 So, we've got an extra 70 horsepower, and honestly, a lot more torque. 672 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,720 Yes, you can feel it, 673 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:17,000 but I can also feel it just feels heavy. 674 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,200 I think we should go for a hot lap. 675 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,360 So, let's get it teed up. 676 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,680 So, last course to get a really exit. 677 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:26,920 Right, here we go. 678 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,400 Start the watch. 679 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,200 I've got traction control off, there's not any hint of oversteer. 680 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,000 There's definitely more understeer than in the Elise, 681 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:36,680 the steering weight is heavier, 682 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,600 the brakes aren't as good. 683 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,480 JASON (NARRATING): At the first checkpoint, 684 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,720 the Tesla is already a second behind the Lotus. 685 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,720 It's certainly nowhere near as engaging 686 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,720 or as fun to drive as the Elise. 687 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,920 I'm a bit nervous about the brakes. 688 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,120 So, this fast corner here, a bit of understeer, 689 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,880 this will actually be good, 690 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,480 a low rev pick up. 691 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:58,880 Yep, good there. 692 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,840 JASON (NARRATING): By the second checkpoint, 693 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,080 the Tesla is 2.5 seconds adrift. 694 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,360 It feels like the Tesla has got the power, 695 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,320 but still it's not enough. 696 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,600 It's pretty good though. 697 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,320 In the slow corners like this, it struggles, front end. 698 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,000 It's, you know, by any standard, it's pretty good. 699 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,840 It's not anywhere near as good as the Elise. 700 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,720 JASON (NARRATING): By the end of the lap, 701 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,800 The Lotus is 3.6 seconds ahead. 702 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,760 And stop the watch. 703 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,720 JASON (NARRATING): Leaving the Tesla with the lap time of 53.48 seconds. 704 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,640 So, what have we learnt? 705 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,680 Lightweight really is the key to performance around the track. 706 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,600 And the Lotus Elise retains its reputation 707 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,160 as one of the best handling sport cars ever made. 708 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,360 Coming up, the going gets tough for our EV vans 709 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,560 when we test them with very heavy loads. 710 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,880 (GASPS) Here comes a hill. Crikey. 711 00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:02,840 JASON (NARRATING): We also ask if a high mileage EV 712 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,240 makes for a smart used car buy. 713 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,680 This is what I want in a compact EV. 714 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,880 It's giving me that 'Star Trek' vibe. I'm on board. 715 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:16,250 00:31:17.720 -- 00:31:20.720 (THEME MUSIC PLAYING) 716 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,720 JIMMY (NARRATING): Going electric is a growing trend, 717 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:25,920 but let's be honest, 718 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,360 private buyers are still struggling with new car prices. 719 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,720 They're a serious notch upwards. 720 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,760 However, if you hunt around a bit, cheaper cars can be found, 721 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,760 because some have now been around for a decade or so, 722 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,000 and in the process 723 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,160 have clocked up some serious mileage. 724 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,000 JIMMY (NARRATING): A high mile EV will be cheaper, 725 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,880 but is it actually wise to get one 726 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,000 especially as replacing batteries can be five figure expensive? 727 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,040 We've assembled a trio of second-hand EVs 728 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,960 which have really been around the block, 729 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,120 to see how fresh they fill on the road, 730 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,640 and check out the actual battery life they have left. 731 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,360 We'll start with the Nissan Leaf. 732 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,280 This indeed is an exciting day, 733 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:14,440 because this is my first ever drive in the pioneering Nissan Leaf, 734 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,360 which was introduced in 2011. 735 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,760 JIMMY (NARRATING): It was practical, it was no-nonsense, 736 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,080 and it's eight grand today, 737 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,120 but it won't exactly get your heart racing. 738 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:23,840 The 24 kilowatt battery 739 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,160 gives a top speed of 89 miles an hour, 740 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,920 and the nought to 60 in about 12 seconds. 741 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,880 But over the years, the Leaf won plenty of admirers, 742 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,400 and it was the world's best selling plug in EV 743 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,960 until the Tesla Model 3 came along in 2020. 744 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,360 Well, it drives fine. 745 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,120 The interior, yes, it's a lit bit tatty, 746 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,400 but the drive train feels absolutely fine. 747 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,920 There's no nots, clonks, nothing feels loose. 748 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,200 The things I'm interested in though 749 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,600 are how well those batteries are performing, 750 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,160 and I'm a little bit concerned. 751 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,440 JIMMY (NARRATING): I've just driven 12.8 miles 752 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,320 and used 27% of the battery charge. 753 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:03,400 Do the maths, 754 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,440 and that gives me a total range of under 50 miles. 755 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,000 The official range of this car is 84 miles, 756 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,080 which suggests 757 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,960 the batteries have degraded by over 40 percent since new. 758 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,840 If this is accurate, than this car is in trouble. 759 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,280 The only way to find out 760 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,040 is to access the Leaf's onboard diagnostic data, 761 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:31,120 and for that, I need the help of an EV specialist, Matt Cleevely. 762 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,280 The state of health of the battery is at 81.98 percent. 763 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:35,880 So... Alright, that's interesting. 764 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,640 JIMMY (NARRATING): So, the batteries 765 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,120 were not nearly as done for as I feared, 766 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,120 and a range of nearly 70 miles is possible. 767 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,640 I have a theory of why my drive had depleted the charge so quickly. 768 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,200 It's a hot day, I've got the air con on, 769 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:51,280 and you know what? 770 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,040 My driving was probably terrible as well. 771 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,560 Of course, this display is only a guess-o-meter of that. 772 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,520 Well, that's 18 percent degradation over 8 years. 773 00:33:58,600 --> 00:33:59,600 Mm-hm. 774 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,120 Is that degradation linear, as in does it continue to drop off 775 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:03,840 at the same rate of knots, 776 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,240 or can it be a sudden thing? 777 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,440 It really is dependent on use. OK. 778 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,560 So, how the car is used, how it's looked after as well. 779 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,200 So, with these batteries, heat is the enemy. 780 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,560 JIMMY (NARRATING): First generation Leafs 781 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,360 didn't have active battery cooling, 782 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,120 and regular overheating can shorten the pack's life. 783 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:22,960 Parking the car in the shade, 784 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,280 charging it only between ten and eighty percent, 785 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,680 and using a slow charger where possible 786 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,880 will help to maintain battery health. 787 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,760 Failure to do this could set you back 14,000 pounds, 788 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,480 the cost of a new battery. 789 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:47,400 Our next mega-miler is the BMW i3, which was launched in 2013 790 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,040 and has only just gone out of production. 791 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,000 Used examples are going for around 12 grand, 792 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,120 a third of the original price. 793 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,280 This car, it's definitely quirky, 794 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,240 it's definitely got that futuristic feel, 795 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,720 and that did divide opinions when it first came out. 796 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,840 But I got honest, BMW, I'm liking what you've done. 797 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,160 This is what I want in a compact EUV. 798 00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:11,040 It's giving me that 'Star Trek' vibe, 799 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,200 I'm onboard. 800 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:13,600 Where we going, Scotty? 801 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,640 JIMMY (NARRATING): This car is a 2014 model 802 00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:20,480 with 95,000 miles on the clock, 803 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,120 and officially, it should be capable 804 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,120 of travelling 80 miles between recharges. 805 00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:28,200 Back to the garage for a proper check up. 806 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,560 MATT: So, we can see on this one, state of health, 83 percent. 807 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:34,640 Over the eight years, 808 00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:36,520 it's just under 20 percent degradation. 809 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:37,640 Yes. 810 00:35:37,720 --> 00:35:40,720 JIMMY (NARRATING): The final car comes from Tesla, 811 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,200 catalyst of the modern-day EV revolution. 812 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,720 The Model S made EV sexy 813 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,680 and showed the world what battery-powered could do. 814 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,840 It came out in 2012, costing up to 90 grand, 815 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,280 but this one is just over half that. 816 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,520 Not cheap, but cheaper. 817 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,840 I mean, there is basically no switch gear. 818 00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:02,560 There is just this massive touch screen, 819 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,480 which controls pretty much everything. 820 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:06,920 If I want to turn me fan up. 821 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,080 No, that's not it. I can't do it. 822 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,840 That was my volume. Not my volume, hang on. Oh, no. 823 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,640 Puh! It's a minefield. 824 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,240 JIMMY (NARRATING): This 2018 Model S is newer that our other EVs, 825 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,520 but at 82,000 miles, 826 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,160 it's racked up a similar distance in four years. 827 00:36:25,240 --> 00:36:28,960 So, has all that hard driving affected the battery performance? 828 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,640 Well, to be honest, I couldn't tell. 829 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,600 The graph I have here, 830 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,880 which is the remaining battery life I have, 831 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,880 that's reading, still, 56 percent. 832 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,280 JIMMY (NARRATING): It turned out 833 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,640 I wasn't seeing live data on the screen, 834 00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:46,640 but back at base, Matt had all the info, 835 00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:48,000 not just on my trip, 836 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,200 but on the car's entire lifetime. 837 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:51,440 As you can see, 838 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,720 the line of degradation over years is tiny. 839 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,320 It's lost 26 miles, 8.33 percent. 840 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,200 Over, sort of, nearly four years? Correct. 841 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,040 JIMMY (NARRATING): Although a new battery 842 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,240 would have cost ten grand, 843 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,800 it looks like after four years, I don't need one. 844 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,640 What else have I learnt? 845 00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:10,480 Well, you can't always judge battery health 846 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:11,880 based on the range read out, 847 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,440 because so many other factors affect depletion. 848 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:16,920 But the good news is 849 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,960 all three of our money-saving, high-mile EV cars 850 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,880 seem to be in rude health. 851 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,800 Each is only losing 852 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,400 around two percent of their battery life, per year. 853 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,480 Our test has only covered a small sample, 854 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,680 but it has shown a high mileage EV 855 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,520 doesn't necessarily mean you're going to spend half your life 856 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:37,760 at a charging point. 857 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,840 And it could also save you big money on servicing and fuel costs. 858 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,960 VICKI (NARRATING): Welcome back to our EV van challenge. 859 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:51,480 We want to see if the Fiat E-Ducato and the Ford E-Transit 860 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,120 are up to a proper day's work. 861 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,600 Both had decent range on our ride around town, 862 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,120 although the Ford got our vote, thanks to a better cabin, 863 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,000 superior tech, and battery life. 864 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,880 It's got a 68 kilowatt hour battery. 865 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,400 KARUN (NARRATING): But the Fiat fought back in Round Two 866 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,040 with the more usable load bay. 867 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:10,440 Oh, wow. Ooh! 868 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:11,880 See how much that moved? Yeah. 869 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,840 VICKI (NARRATING): One-all then. And time for our final test. 870 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,400 Jason and Jimmy discovered in the last series 871 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,960 EV vans can throw a bit of a wobbly 872 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,000 when they're asked to cart some weight around. 873 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,880 Now, hang on. That's flat to the floor. 874 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,160 That's not accelerating now. 875 00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:29,360 JASON: That's poor, eh? JIMMY: Yeah. 876 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,040 VICKI (NARRATING): So, how will our vans react 877 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,400 with a tonne of sand in the back that's around their maximum payload? 878 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,040 And for that reason, I've picked Karun out. 879 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,600 He might be compact, but every kilo counts. 880 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,960 We have chosen a route that's got a few hills, 881 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,560 but nothing too silly. 882 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:49,000 And with 280 newton-metres of torque in my Ducato 883 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:53,120 I think this should cope pretty well even with the extra load onboard. 884 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,720 KARUN (NARRATING): Two hundred and eighty newton-metres? 885 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,960 I laugh in your face, VBH. 886 00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:59,160 The Ford E-Transit 887 00:38:59,240 --> 00:39:03,360 is the most powerful electric van in the market today. 888 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:08,280 And with 261 horsepower and 430 newton-metres of torque, 889 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,080 it should absolutely smash 890 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,960 any performance that the Fiat can put together. 891 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,600 But with a tonne of weight in the back, 892 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:18,960 it will be interesting to see 893 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,960 just what the consumption numbers are like, 894 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,920 because when we drove around earlier, 895 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,000 actually it was pretty good, to be honest. 896 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,640 I'd be interested to see just with the hills 897 00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:30,320 what a difference that makes. 898 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,080 VICKI (NARRATING): Karun, 899 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,520 I might have 150 newton-metres of torque less than you, 900 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,360 and be lacking horsepower, 901 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,360 but right now, I'm moving along quite nicely. 902 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,000 I can barely notice that I've got a load onboard. 903 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,600 Honestly, it just feels 904 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,160 a tiny, wheenie bit heavier at the back than before. 905 00:39:49,240 --> 00:39:52,520 VICKI (NARRATING): However, I've got a few issues elsewhere. 906 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:53,880 The noise on these roads 907 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,080 has definitely increased in the cabin. 908 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,720 I can hear the suspension going over potholes, 909 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,480 and I can definitely feel it as well. 910 00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:07,280 VICKI (NARRATING): And another problem is looming on the horizon. 911 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:08,560 (GASPS) 912 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,320 Here comes a hill. Oh, crikey. 913 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,040 I'm in Eco mode. 914 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,920 Ooh. Foot on the throttle. 915 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,280 That is my foot flat on the trottle. 916 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,480 It's not picking up very well. 917 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,440 I'm going to switch modes to Power mode. 918 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,880 Into Power mode, 919 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:37,560 and this behaves very much like a normal petrol diesel van. 920 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,320 VICKI (NARRATING): In Eco mode, acceleration is limited. 921 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,640 But in power mode, it unleashes all of its grunt 922 00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:48,600 and top speed increases from 50 to 62 miles an hour. 923 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,320 My range is going to be zapped pretty quickly. 924 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,840 So, I'm going to pop it back into Eco, ASAP. 925 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,080 KARUN (NARRATING) I'm yet to reach any hills, 926 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,640 but I'm enjoying the ride of the E-Transit, 927 00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:08,680 which has finally ditched its ancient leaf spring suspension. 928 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,480 I can feel the bumpy B-road I'm driving along, 929 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,840 it's actually a pretty comfortable ride. 930 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,360 And, actually, I'm not even having to go to full throttle. 931 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:18,520 I'm just about, 932 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,480 I'm at maybe 40 percent on the throttle, 933 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,840 and it's pretty effortlessly climbing up. 934 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:26,600 VICKI (NARRATING): OK, Karun, I get it, 935 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,360 your van is better on hills. 936 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,520 But owning an EV isn't all about power. 937 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,840 Both vehicles could save you as much 13,000 pounds in fuel 938 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,760 over 95,000 miles, 939 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,480 and an EV van could be 40 percent cheaper to service. 940 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,080 KARUN: Let's talk warranties. 941 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,640 Ford will give you three years, or 60,000 miles, 942 00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:48,000 whichever comes first. 943 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,880 But, more importantly 944 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,800 when it comes to the electrical component, 945 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,120 including the battery, 946 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,640 you'll get 100,000 miles of warranty. 947 00:41:55,720 --> 00:41:58,520 Which isn't as good as the Fiat, 948 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:03,240 which gets a 5 year or 100,000 mile warranty 949 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,600 and five years free roadside assistance. 950 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,720 VICKI (NARRATING): And the battery is warranted 951 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,400 for 8 years or 100,000 miles, whichever comes sooner. 952 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,560 Our drive is now coming to an end. 953 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,360 What effect had a tonne of sand done to our range? 954 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,040 Empty, the Fiat had a 160 mile range, 955 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,080 but loaded up, this dropped to 75. 956 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:30,680 The Ford dropped from a 200 mile range to 122 miles. 957 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,680 Important figures to bear in mind if you often carry heavy loads. 958 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:42,680 So, we think then that the Ford definitely won the first test. 959 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,840 We found it more agreeable inside. Yep. Yep. 960 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,080 This won the second test 961 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,000 for different shapes and sizes to go in the back. 962 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,000 And then you've won the third. 963 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,600 Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, the Ford is 5,000 pounds cheaper 964 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,200 it's got better range, and it's faster. 965 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,560 So, really, no-brainer. Yeah. 966 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:01,640 So, do we think then 967 00:43:01,720 --> 00:43:05,080 that these vans have now become fit for purpose? 968 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,800 I think that if Jimmy and Jason got back in these, 969 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,440 after seeing two years of development 970 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:10,680 they'd be really impressed. 971 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,560 VICKI (NARRATING): So, it's the mighty Ford 972 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,080 which gets the prize for the van 973 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,920 that's managed its transformation to electric power the best. 974 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,040 If you decide to buy one, 975 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,400 remember you aren't obliged to wear the same uniforms as ours, 976 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:24,880 unless you really want to. 977 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,960 Captioned by Ai-Media ai-media.tv