1 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:08,741 [suspenseful music] 2 00:00:08,809 --> 00:00:11,143 - In 1990, the tech industry 3 00:00:11,211 --> 00:00:13,912 Was heating up in the city of atlanta. 4 00:00:13,981 --> 00:00:16,248 - Jim chao was headhunted to come 5 00:00:16,316 --> 00:00:19,151 To atlanta to work for ibm. 6 00:00:19,219 --> 00:00:21,953 - We tried to call jim, didn't get an answer. 7 00:00:21,955 --> 00:00:24,489 - Jim is always on time. 8 00:00:24,558 --> 00:00:27,526 Something got to be happen to him. 9 00:00:27,594 --> 00:00:30,729 - They opened the door, determined that jim chao, 10 00:00:30,797 --> 00:00:33,798 He was deceased. 11 00:00:33,867 --> 00:00:36,301 - It's definitely a big shock. 12 00:00:36,303 --> 00:00:39,804 - Both wounds were relatively close. 13 00:00:39,874 --> 00:00:41,573 - They were up close and personal. 14 00:00:41,642 --> 00:00:44,076 And that says execution. 15 00:00:44,144 --> 00:00:47,012 - We have no idea why he died. 16 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,081 - This crime scene is strange. 17 00:00:49,149 --> 00:00:51,516 There was cocaine spread on the table. 18 00:00:51,585 --> 00:00:53,819 - No weapons, no shell casings. 19 00:00:53,887 --> 00:00:56,121 This doesn't look right. 20 00:00:56,189 --> 00:00:58,923 - His wife, lisa, said that he not only 21 00:00:58,925 --> 00:01:01,026 Did not take any drugs 22 00:01:01,094 --> 00:01:04,196 But didn't drink alcohol either. 23 00:01:04,264 --> 00:01:07,832 - From all appearances, jim chao let the killer in. 24 00:01:07,902 --> 00:01:10,301 So there had to be some sort of relationship 25 00:01:10,371 --> 00:01:11,836 Between jim chao and the killer. 26 00:01:11,906 --> 00:01:14,606 ♪ ♪ 27 00:01:14,675 --> 00:01:19,011 - She broke and said, my husband was having an affair. 28 00:01:19,079 --> 00:01:21,946 - Jim chao was telling him, you're not a man, 29 00:01:21,948 --> 00:01:23,582 You can't keep a woman. 30 00:01:23,650 --> 00:01:26,485 - People do crazy things for jealousy, 31 00:01:26,553 --> 00:01:28,787 For anger, for love story. 32 00:01:28,856 --> 00:01:30,589 ♪ ♪ 33 00:01:30,657 --> 00:01:32,057 [gunshot] 34 00:01:32,125 --> 00:01:34,960 [dramatic music] 35 00:01:35,028 --> 00:01:38,964 ♪ ♪ 36 00:01:38,966 --> 00:01:42,000 [sirens wailing] 37 00:01:45,305 --> 00:01:47,339 [upbeat music] 38 00:01:47,407 --> 00:01:50,475 - In the last decade of the 20th century, 39 00:01:50,477 --> 00:01:52,911 American tech centers become reflections 40 00:01:52,980 --> 00:01:55,247 Of the impending arrival of y2k, 41 00:01:55,315 --> 00:01:58,550 And atlanta is no exception. 42 00:01:58,619 --> 00:02:01,019 - The 1990s in atlanta, it was a booming time. 43 00:02:01,088 --> 00:02:04,789 You had the tech industry, which was one of the biggest 44 00:02:04,858 --> 00:02:05,990 That was going on. 45 00:02:05,992 --> 00:02:11,663 And the glistening business behind it all was ibm. 46 00:02:11,732 --> 00:02:17,636 - Ibm back then probably had 200,000 employees worldwide. 47 00:02:17,704 --> 00:02:23,642 In atlanta, we would have 4,000 to 5,000 ibm-ers. 48 00:02:23,710 --> 00:02:25,777 - The influx of the tech business 49 00:02:25,846 --> 00:02:28,714 Triggers new construction throughout the city. 50 00:02:30,617 --> 00:02:33,484 - Ibm in 1990 was a happening place. 51 00:02:33,486 --> 00:02:36,921 We were busy, so I needed some additional employees 52 00:02:36,991 --> 00:02:38,623 In the atlanta office. 53 00:02:38,692 --> 00:02:42,827 And so we had to go outside of atlanta to look for employees. 54 00:02:43,997 --> 00:02:47,599 - One such person who has been recruited by ibm in atlanta 55 00:02:47,668 --> 00:02:50,302 Is jim chao, a taiwanese immigrant 56 00:02:50,370 --> 00:02:53,071 And programming phenom. 57 00:02:53,140 --> 00:02:57,008 - Jim really was a shining star of the technical ability 58 00:02:57,010 --> 00:03:01,045 That we needed to have on the team in atlanta. 59 00:03:01,047 --> 00:03:05,617 - But before jim can make his mark at ibm in atlanta, 60 00:03:05,686 --> 00:03:07,286 Tragedy strikes. 61 00:03:08,588 --> 00:03:11,223 On Thursday morning, April 26th, 62 00:03:11,291 --> 00:03:14,793 Jim is nowhere to be found. 63 00:03:14,861 --> 00:03:15,860 - And then I asked jimmy ku, 64 00:03:15,929 --> 00:03:18,697 Who was one of my other employees in the department 65 00:03:18,765 --> 00:03:20,899 And a good friend of jim's, to go check on him. 66 00:03:20,967 --> 00:03:24,603 - Jim is always on time, never late. 67 00:03:24,671 --> 00:03:27,772 In my mind, I thought something got to be-- 68 00:03:27,841 --> 00:03:29,441 Got to be happen to him. 69 00:03:29,509 --> 00:03:31,810 [suspenseful music] 70 00:03:31,878 --> 00:03:35,013 - When mr. Ku arrives at jim's apartment building, 71 00:03:35,081 --> 00:03:37,649 He finds the security guard, who accompanies him 72 00:03:37,718 --> 00:03:40,552 To jim's door for a welfare check. 73 00:03:40,620 --> 00:03:46,058 - The security guard, he just slowly, using his key, 74 00:03:46,126 --> 00:03:48,693 Opened the door. 75 00:03:48,762 --> 00:03:52,330 Then I saw jim's face right by the door. 76 00:03:52,332 --> 00:03:55,234 ♪ ♪ 77 00:03:55,302 --> 00:03:56,768 Looks like he's dead. 78 00:03:56,837 --> 00:04:00,438 And then the security guard 79 00:04:00,507 --> 00:04:03,208 Just closed the door immediately. 80 00:04:03,276 --> 00:04:07,011 And then from there, they called the police. 81 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,014 - At 11:00 a.M., cobb county police 82 00:04:10,084 --> 00:04:13,485 Receive the call from outside jim chao's apartment. 83 00:04:14,655 --> 00:04:19,258 Then three uniformed officers raced to the scene. 84 00:04:19,326 --> 00:04:21,193 - They opened the door, 85 00:04:21,261 --> 00:04:22,827 Determined that he was deceased, 86 00:04:22,896 --> 00:04:25,264 Closed the door back, and taped off the scene 87 00:04:25,332 --> 00:04:27,532 And called homicide. 88 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,968 - Cobb county homicide detectives soon arrive 89 00:04:30,036 --> 00:04:34,773 And speak with the man who found the victim, jimmy ku. 90 00:04:34,841 --> 00:04:39,243 Ku confirms that the victim is jim chao. 91 00:04:39,245 --> 00:04:42,413 - When I interviewed jimmy ku outside of the apartment, 92 00:04:42,483 --> 00:04:44,316 Then I found out 93 00:04:44,384 --> 00:04:46,951 That jim chao worked at ibm, 94 00:04:47,020 --> 00:04:49,721 Which is relatively close to the apartment. 95 00:04:49,790 --> 00:04:52,891 And he lived in the apartment by himself. 96 00:04:52,959 --> 00:04:55,794 - I spoke with detective herman. 97 00:04:55,862 --> 00:04:59,297 I basically explained why I was here 98 00:04:59,366 --> 00:05:02,000 Is because my manager asked me to come over 99 00:05:02,068 --> 00:05:05,037 Since jim and I work in the same department. 100 00:05:06,372 --> 00:05:09,641 - Jimmy then explains that jim chao moved to atlanta 101 00:05:09,710 --> 00:05:12,711 Three months earlier, temporarily leaving his family 102 00:05:12,779 --> 00:05:16,180 In austin, texas, after accepting a position 103 00:05:16,182 --> 00:05:18,250 At ibm's atlanta office. 104 00:05:20,654 --> 00:05:23,288 - All of his family, his parents, 105 00:05:23,356 --> 00:05:25,356 They all lived in texas. 106 00:05:25,358 --> 00:05:28,660 And eventually, his wife and his eight-year-old son 107 00:05:28,728 --> 00:05:32,230 Were going to move up here and join him here in atlanta. 108 00:05:33,233 --> 00:05:37,101 - Jimmy also reveals that jim chao's wife, lisa, 109 00:05:37,171 --> 00:05:39,271 Is at the atlanta airport. 110 00:05:39,339 --> 00:05:44,142 - Lisa flew in so that she and jim can do house hunting. 111 00:05:44,211 --> 00:05:46,745 - We learned, in talking with jimmy ku, 112 00:05:46,813 --> 00:05:48,613 That jim chao was supposed to pick her up 113 00:05:48,682 --> 00:05:52,116 At the airport at 9:00 a.M. That Thursday morning. 114 00:05:52,118 --> 00:05:55,854 - According to jimmy, jim chao never showed up at the airport 115 00:05:55,922 --> 00:05:58,389 To pick up his wife, which prompted her 116 00:05:58,459 --> 00:06:01,459 To call his manager at ibm. 117 00:06:01,528 --> 00:06:03,295 - Lisa called me from the airport and said, 118 00:06:03,363 --> 00:06:05,329 Hey, jim's not here. What's going on? 119 00:06:05,331 --> 00:06:08,767 So we tried to call jim, didn't get an answer. 120 00:06:08,835 --> 00:06:11,870 I told lisa to grab a taxi and come on out. 121 00:06:11,938 --> 00:06:16,842 - Shortly after mr. Ku found jim chao's body, 122 00:06:16,910 --> 00:06:19,644 Armed with background information about the victim, 123 00:06:19,713 --> 00:06:22,214 Detectives examine the crime scene, 124 00:06:22,282 --> 00:06:24,249 Starting with jim's body. 125 00:06:24,317 --> 00:06:26,785 ♪ ♪ 126 00:06:26,853 --> 00:06:28,920 - Being an investigator in 1990, 127 00:06:28,989 --> 00:06:31,389 You carried fingerprint powder. 128 00:06:31,457 --> 00:06:33,325 You carried a polaroid camera. 129 00:06:33,393 --> 00:06:34,859 Detectives worked the scene. 130 00:06:34,928 --> 00:06:37,028 You didn't have the luxury of the csis they have now. 131 00:06:38,698 --> 00:06:40,932 I was an investigator 132 00:06:41,001 --> 00:06:43,101 At the cobb county police department in the 1990s. 133 00:06:43,170 --> 00:06:45,770 I'm currently still involved in law enforcement. 134 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,872 My duties involve a lot of surveillance work, 135 00:06:47,874 --> 00:06:51,343 And therefore, I have to stay in the shadows. 136 00:06:51,411 --> 00:06:54,813 ♪ ♪ 137 00:06:54,815 --> 00:06:57,849 - You had the deceased individual on the floor. 138 00:06:57,918 --> 00:06:59,684 He had been shot once in the chest, 139 00:06:59,753 --> 00:07:01,853 Then once behind the left ear. 140 00:07:01,921 --> 00:07:03,955 One interesting thing about the victim-- 141 00:07:04,024 --> 00:07:07,425 He had a pair of scissors in his right hand. 142 00:07:07,427 --> 00:07:09,227 It didn't look like he was holding them, 143 00:07:09,295 --> 00:07:13,131 Just because of the contortion of the victim's fingers. 144 00:07:13,199 --> 00:07:15,967 It looked like perhaps they had been placed there. 145 00:07:16,036 --> 00:07:18,002 I thought that was kind of odd. 146 00:07:18,071 --> 00:07:20,372 - And as they explore beyond the body, 147 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:25,476 Investigators make another alarming discovery. 148 00:07:25,546 --> 00:07:28,713 - On the table, there's a couple of cans of coca-cola, 149 00:07:28,782 --> 00:07:31,383 And also on the table is a substance 150 00:07:31,451 --> 00:07:33,217 That looks like cocaine. 151 00:07:33,219 --> 00:07:35,987 ♪ ♪ 152 00:07:36,056 --> 00:07:39,824 - When the team tests the white substance on the table, 153 00:07:39,892 --> 00:07:42,994 Their suspicions are confirmed. 154 00:07:43,063 --> 00:07:45,397 It's cocaine. 155 00:07:45,465 --> 00:07:48,633 - This is what we normally see in a drug killing. 156 00:07:48,702 --> 00:07:53,271 But, you know, the cocaine had been sprinkled, 157 00:07:53,339 --> 00:07:57,208 And there was some on top of the coke can. 158 00:07:57,277 --> 00:07:59,577 Then you take a look at jim chao. 159 00:07:59,646 --> 00:08:02,547 In his life, he worked for ibm. 160 00:08:02,615 --> 00:08:05,484 You know, this doesn't fit. 161 00:08:05,552 --> 00:08:07,151 It doesn't look right. 162 00:08:07,220 --> 00:08:09,287 - If somebody was involved in drugs, 163 00:08:09,356 --> 00:08:10,888 Why didn't they take the drugs on the way back out? 164 00:08:10,957 --> 00:08:12,724 Why leave them there? 165 00:08:12,792 --> 00:08:15,893 But you have to look at a drug angle. 166 00:08:15,962 --> 00:08:19,363 - You're thinking, what are we dealing with here? 167 00:08:19,433 --> 00:08:22,200 We'll know more when we know more about our victim. 168 00:08:22,269 --> 00:08:25,369 - Before learning more about jim's personal life, 169 00:08:25,439 --> 00:08:29,641 Detectives continue to process the scene. 170 00:08:29,709 --> 00:08:32,844 - The apartment had not been ransacked, 171 00:08:32,913 --> 00:08:35,713 No weapons, no shell casings. 172 00:08:35,782 --> 00:08:38,350 I found the victim's wallet on the scene, 173 00:08:38,418 --> 00:08:41,052 And it had almost $40 in cash. 174 00:08:41,121 --> 00:08:44,055 That was kind of significant because if it was a robbery, 175 00:08:44,124 --> 00:08:46,725 The killer is gonna take the cash. 176 00:08:46,793 --> 00:08:49,994 - With a robbery turned drug deal unlikely, 177 00:08:50,063 --> 00:08:54,966 Detectives turn to processing the scene for fingerprints. 178 00:08:55,035 --> 00:08:56,935 - There were some prints lifted, 179 00:08:57,003 --> 00:09:00,038 Identified as coming from the victim. 180 00:09:01,241 --> 00:09:04,543 There wasn't any evidence that anyone other than the victim 181 00:09:04,611 --> 00:09:07,645 Was on the scene. 182 00:09:07,714 --> 00:09:11,283 - The medical examiner arrives and immediately makes 183 00:09:11,351 --> 00:09:13,818 A disturbing observation. 184 00:09:13,887 --> 00:09:16,254 - There was an entry gunshot wound to the head 185 00:09:16,322 --> 00:09:18,690 And gunshot wound to the chest. 186 00:09:18,758 --> 00:09:22,394 The medical examiner said both of them were relatively close. 187 00:09:22,462 --> 00:09:24,028 - Wasn't somebody that fired from across the room. 188 00:09:24,097 --> 00:09:25,763 They were up close and personal. 189 00:09:25,832 --> 00:09:28,033 And that says execution. 190 00:09:28,101 --> 00:09:31,169 - With no tangible evidence from the crime scene, 191 00:09:31,237 --> 00:09:33,705 Detectives turn their attention back to jimmy ku, 192 00:09:33,773 --> 00:09:35,840 Who is still at the scene. 193 00:09:35,842 --> 00:09:38,676 They ask him if he has any more information 194 00:09:38,745 --> 00:09:42,180 About jim chao's personal life. 195 00:09:42,248 --> 00:09:45,449 - Jim and I, we have a lot of things in common. 196 00:09:45,451 --> 00:09:50,088 We have same common culture, background from taiwan. 197 00:09:50,156 --> 00:09:54,225 We both call ourselves system programmers for ibm. 198 00:09:54,294 --> 00:09:57,261 Another thing kind of drew us together is, 199 00:09:57,330 --> 00:10:00,532 We both like to play tennis and get together, 200 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,000 Play tennis after work. 201 00:10:03,069 --> 00:10:05,870 Also, I invite him to my home to meet with my wife 202 00:10:05,939 --> 00:10:09,140 And have dinner with us. 203 00:10:09,209 --> 00:10:11,209 - Jimmy ku seemed to indicate to me 204 00:10:11,277 --> 00:10:13,077 That he was good friends with him. 205 00:10:13,146 --> 00:10:15,947 So I said, hey, does he use drugs? 206 00:10:16,016 --> 00:10:18,349 Is he involved in the drug trade? 207 00:10:18,418 --> 00:10:20,184 There wasn't anything that jimmy knew 208 00:10:20,253 --> 00:10:23,487 As far as chao being involved in any drugs, 209 00:10:23,489 --> 00:10:25,389 And there wasn't any of that. 210 00:10:25,459 --> 00:10:28,627 - Jimmy also explains he doesn't know of anyone 211 00:10:28,695 --> 00:10:31,229 Who would want to hurt his friend. 212 00:10:31,297 --> 00:10:33,798 - I don't see the characteristic 213 00:10:33,867 --> 00:10:36,534 That this guy is aggressive. 214 00:10:36,603 --> 00:10:39,738 He's just a professional, nice, friendly person 215 00:10:39,806 --> 00:10:43,041 Trying to work hard to raise a child. 216 00:10:43,109 --> 00:10:45,710 - Then herman speaks with the security officer 217 00:10:45,779 --> 00:10:48,546 Who discovered the body. 218 00:10:48,615 --> 00:10:51,049 - The off-duty officer, per his statement to us, 219 00:10:51,117 --> 00:10:55,219 He was adamant that he used his pass key 220 00:10:55,288 --> 00:10:57,221 To unlock the deadbolt. 221 00:10:57,223 --> 00:11:00,291 So the deadbolt on the apartment was locked. 222 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:04,128 There was no force on the door or any other, you know, 223 00:11:04,197 --> 00:11:06,564 Point of entry into the apartment. 224 00:11:06,633 --> 00:11:10,067 - If jim chao's door was locked from the outside, 225 00:11:10,136 --> 00:11:12,370 That means the killer had taken a key 226 00:11:12,438 --> 00:11:15,339 And used it behind them as they left. 227 00:11:15,341 --> 00:11:18,376 ♪ ♪ 228 00:11:18,444 --> 00:11:22,313 - From all appearances, jim chao let the killer in. 229 00:11:22,382 --> 00:11:24,182 So there had to be some sort of relationship 230 00:11:24,250 --> 00:11:27,151 Between jim chao and the killer. 231 00:11:27,220 --> 00:11:29,987 - I was circling back around to the victim. 232 00:11:30,056 --> 00:11:33,658 So now are the coworkers not telling me something? 233 00:11:33,726 --> 00:11:35,126 What am I missing? 234 00:11:35,195 --> 00:11:37,161 ♪ ♪ 235 00:11:37,163 --> 00:11:41,699 We found some cards and letters of affection. 236 00:11:41,701 --> 00:11:44,535 It wasn't just a friendship thing. 237 00:11:44,604 --> 00:11:46,938 - You start looking at the possibility 238 00:11:47,006 --> 00:11:48,439 Of extramarital affair. 239 00:11:48,508 --> 00:11:51,475 - She had taken a phone call from an unidentified male, 240 00:11:51,545 --> 00:11:55,179 And told her, you need to take care of your husband. 241 00:11:55,248 --> 00:11:57,181 To me, that's an inferred threat. 242 00:11:57,250 --> 00:11:58,849 That's huge. 243 00:11:58,919 --> 00:12:05,290 ♪ ♪ 244 00:12:09,060 --> 00:12:11,229 - Cobb county detectives are investigating 245 00:12:11,297 --> 00:12:14,766 The mysterious murder of jim chao, 246 00:12:14,834 --> 00:12:16,701 Found murdered in his apartment 247 00:12:16,770 --> 00:12:18,436 With a stash of cocaine. 248 00:12:18,504 --> 00:12:19,837 [gunshot] 249 00:12:19,906 --> 00:12:22,306 Investigators have determined 250 00:12:22,375 --> 00:12:25,743 That jim must have let his killer into his home. 251 00:12:25,812 --> 00:12:28,179 [dramatic music] 252 00:12:28,248 --> 00:12:29,881 - We were dealing with somebody 253 00:12:29,949 --> 00:12:32,684 That he most likely knew 254 00:12:32,752 --> 00:12:36,621 And most likely, for a brief period, was comfortable with. 255 00:12:37,958 --> 00:12:39,623 Maybe something goes bad. 256 00:12:39,625 --> 00:12:41,592 ♪ ♪ 257 00:12:41,661 --> 00:12:44,528 And the question is, what? 258 00:12:44,598 --> 00:12:45,697 And he ends up shot... 259 00:12:45,765 --> 00:12:47,531 ♪ ♪ 260 00:12:47,601 --> 00:12:48,833 [gunshot] 261 00:12:48,902 --> 00:12:50,835 And killed. 262 00:12:50,903 --> 00:12:53,237 - The team speaks to jim's neighbors 263 00:12:53,239 --> 00:12:56,007 To find out if anyone saw or heard anything 264 00:12:56,075 --> 00:12:59,677 Unusual the night before. 265 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,780 - We knocked on doors, and there was nothing 266 00:13:02,849 --> 00:13:05,983 That stood out that would lead investigators 267 00:13:06,052 --> 00:13:08,787 In any particular direction. 268 00:13:08,855 --> 00:13:13,224 So all you can do then is keep investigating. 269 00:13:13,293 --> 00:13:15,794 - Detectives also check for surveillance cameras 270 00:13:15,862 --> 00:13:19,163 Around the building but find none. 271 00:13:19,231 --> 00:13:22,400 After the canvass, jim's widow, lisa chao, 272 00:13:22,468 --> 00:13:25,669 Arrives on scene. 273 00:13:25,671 --> 00:13:29,207 - And she was brought back to the apartment complex. 274 00:13:29,275 --> 00:13:31,209 I remember, she was sitting in a car, 275 00:13:31,277 --> 00:13:34,579 And then she asked me if I knew what happened. 276 00:13:34,647 --> 00:13:36,380 I said, we're not sure yet, 277 00:13:36,449 --> 00:13:40,185 And then confirmed that her husband was deceased. 278 00:13:40,253 --> 00:13:42,553 And she was--you know, she was crying. 279 00:13:42,555 --> 00:13:45,456 She was upset. 280 00:13:45,525 --> 00:13:49,627 - Detective herman consoles lisa for her devastating loss, 281 00:13:49,695 --> 00:13:54,231 Then asks her to provide a fuller picture of her husband. 282 00:13:54,300 --> 00:13:57,835 - She described the background on him moving here. 283 00:13:57,904 --> 00:14:00,705 And lisa said they talked often, 284 00:14:00,773 --> 00:14:03,274 Usually once, twice a day. 285 00:14:03,343 --> 00:14:05,743 I just asked, when's the last time 286 00:14:05,745 --> 00:14:08,580 You talked to your husband? 287 00:14:08,648 --> 00:14:10,648 She said the last time that she talked 288 00:14:10,716 --> 00:14:12,583 With him was the night before. 289 00:14:12,652 --> 00:14:15,419 He told her he'd pick her up at the airport. 290 00:14:15,488 --> 00:14:17,355 So everything appeared to be ok to her. 291 00:14:17,423 --> 00:14:19,457 ♪ ♪ 292 00:14:19,525 --> 00:14:22,627 And I asked her if she knew anyone that had anything to do 293 00:14:22,695 --> 00:14:25,096 With this, and she said no. 294 00:14:25,164 --> 00:14:28,232 Then I broached the subject about if there were 295 00:14:28,301 --> 00:14:30,167 Any issues in his background, drugs, 296 00:14:30,236 --> 00:14:31,468 Those kind of things. 297 00:14:31,538 --> 00:14:33,871 She said no, no, no. 298 00:14:33,873 --> 00:14:37,275 - While herman believes mrs. Chao is being truthful, 299 00:14:37,343 --> 00:14:40,211 He knows from experience that there's a chance 300 00:14:40,279 --> 00:14:44,615 Jim could have been leading a double life. 301 00:14:44,617 --> 00:14:46,550 - People have secrets. 302 00:14:46,552 --> 00:14:50,154 There are things people do or are involved in 303 00:14:50,156 --> 00:14:51,422 That their friends don't know about 304 00:14:51,491 --> 00:14:53,357 And sometimes even their immediate family 305 00:14:53,359 --> 00:14:55,159 Doesn't know about. 306 00:14:55,228 --> 00:14:58,296 So you're hearing them say that he does not do drugs, 307 00:14:58,364 --> 00:15:00,398 But you don't write that off as it can't 308 00:15:00,466 --> 00:15:03,167 Be something that he did. 309 00:15:03,236 --> 00:15:05,703 - In that time, cocaine became the big deal 310 00:15:05,771 --> 00:15:07,505 In law enforcement. 311 00:15:07,573 --> 00:15:10,574 That was a battle during that time. 312 00:15:10,643 --> 00:15:13,477 - You have to think, well, is there a possibility 313 00:15:13,546 --> 00:15:16,180 That somebody targeted him, some sort of drug revenge hit 314 00:15:16,182 --> 00:15:18,783 Or something like that? 315 00:15:18,851 --> 00:15:20,384 - Back at the homicide office, 316 00:15:20,453 --> 00:15:22,453 Detectives look into drug-related crimes 317 00:15:22,522 --> 00:15:27,024 In jim chao's area of cobb county. 318 00:15:27,093 --> 00:15:32,030 - Was there any illicit drug trafficking going on 319 00:15:32,098 --> 00:15:34,765 Either in the apartment complex or nearby? 320 00:15:34,834 --> 00:15:38,769 Very quickly, they were able to discover that this really 321 00:15:38,838 --> 00:15:42,073 Didn't fit any of the patterns of other crimes 322 00:15:42,141 --> 00:15:45,609 That were occurring in the area. 323 00:15:45,611 --> 00:15:48,178 - Ruling out any connection to drug crimes 324 00:15:48,180 --> 00:15:50,414 In the neighborhood, it's still a mystery 325 00:15:50,483 --> 00:15:53,751 As to why there was cocaine at the scene. 326 00:15:53,819 --> 00:15:57,955 Then investigators receive the autopsy report, 327 00:15:58,024 --> 00:16:03,327 And it makes this unusual case even more puzzling. 328 00:16:03,329 --> 00:16:06,297 - It was ultimately discovered that there was 329 00:16:06,365 --> 00:16:09,701 No narcotics, certainly no cocaine, 330 00:16:09,769 --> 00:16:12,904 In mr. Chao's system. 331 00:16:12,972 --> 00:16:17,675 I was particularly concerned that amount of cocaine 332 00:16:17,744 --> 00:16:21,913 Didn't seem to fit in with the murder itself. 333 00:16:21,981 --> 00:16:24,181 Nobody's gonna leave that amount of cocaine 334 00:16:24,250 --> 00:16:25,883 At the scene. 335 00:16:25,952 --> 00:16:28,252 - It was less likely we were dealing with drugs. 336 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,288 And it was just--to me, once we got the tox back, 337 00:16:31,357 --> 00:16:34,058 I mean, it just confirmed it. 338 00:16:34,127 --> 00:16:37,861 - Now that it appears jim wasn't involved with drugs, 339 00:16:37,863 --> 00:16:40,598 Investigators come up with a potential reason 340 00:16:40,666 --> 00:16:45,603 For the cocaine and other oddities found at the scene. 341 00:16:45,671 --> 00:16:49,540 - It looked like the scissors were a plant in the hand. 342 00:16:49,609 --> 00:16:53,344 If you see something like that, that's the killer or killers, 343 00:16:53,413 --> 00:16:56,847 You know, thinking, ok, I've shot him. 344 00:16:56,849 --> 00:17:01,752 Now I've got to figure out, what can I do to help myself? 345 00:17:01,821 --> 00:17:04,588 So it's--he plants a scissors. 346 00:17:04,657 --> 00:17:06,224 Then the argument's gonna be, later on, 347 00:17:06,292 --> 00:17:08,159 Hey, he was gonna stab me with his scissors, 348 00:17:08,227 --> 00:17:10,361 So I shot him. 349 00:17:10,429 --> 00:17:12,363 Then you've got the powdered cocaine 350 00:17:12,431 --> 00:17:14,532 On the scene that had been planted 351 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,300 To make it look like a drug deal, 352 00:17:16,368 --> 00:17:19,637 Which just never looked right. 353 00:17:19,705 --> 00:17:23,174 - It was clear at that stage that the cocaine 354 00:17:23,242 --> 00:17:27,078 Found in the apartment was used as a ruse. 355 00:17:27,146 --> 00:17:28,845 For whatever reason, the murderer 356 00:17:28,847 --> 00:17:33,817 Wanted to either taint the reputation of mr. Chao 357 00:17:33,886 --> 00:17:37,921 Or to throw the investigators off guard. 358 00:17:37,923 --> 00:17:40,591 - I mean, to me, they're not giving the cops any credit, 359 00:17:40,660 --> 00:17:43,894 That we can't look at this and say, hey, this is bs. 360 00:17:43,963 --> 00:17:46,097 I mean, this is a staged scene. 361 00:17:46,165 --> 00:17:49,867 And we were probably dealing with somebody that knew him 362 00:17:49,935 --> 00:17:51,735 Very well and went to the extreme 363 00:17:51,804 --> 00:17:56,206 To have him killed for whatever reason. 364 00:17:56,276 --> 00:17:59,877 Then the question is, who and why? 365 00:17:59,945 --> 00:18:06,717 ♪ ♪ 366 00:18:11,556 --> 00:18:13,024 [dramatic music] 367 00:18:13,092 --> 00:18:15,559 - Cobb county investigators initially suspected 368 00:18:15,628 --> 00:18:18,196 Jim chao's death was drug-related 369 00:18:18,264 --> 00:18:21,031 Due to the cocaine found near his body, 370 00:18:21,100 --> 00:18:25,469 But when the me revealed jim had no drugs in his system, 371 00:18:25,538 --> 00:18:28,906 Detectives had to rethink their theory. 372 00:18:28,974 --> 00:18:32,075 Now the team believes the crime scene was staged, 373 00:18:32,077 --> 00:18:35,379 And the autopsy report paints a vivid picture 374 00:18:35,448 --> 00:18:37,781 Of how jim was killed. 375 00:18:37,850 --> 00:18:41,385 - We learned that there wasn't any type of defense wounds, 376 00:18:41,454 --> 00:18:43,687 So whatever happened happened fast. 377 00:18:43,689 --> 00:18:46,657 And our victim was unsuspecting 378 00:18:46,726 --> 00:18:49,526 That it was gonna happen. 379 00:18:49,595 --> 00:18:52,830 Again, goes back to him being somewhat 380 00:18:52,899 --> 00:18:55,999 Comfortable with whoever he was with. 381 00:18:56,001 --> 00:18:59,002 - Although no bullet casings were found at the crime scene, 382 00:18:59,072 --> 00:19:03,540 The me recovers two bullets from jim's body. 383 00:19:03,609 --> 00:19:05,476 - The projectiles were removed. 384 00:19:05,545 --> 00:19:08,679 They identified as .380-caliber. 385 00:19:08,748 --> 00:19:11,548 First thing I did, obviously, was check 386 00:19:11,617 --> 00:19:13,784 Any local stolen reports, 387 00:19:13,853 --> 00:19:15,953 Metropolitan police departments 388 00:19:16,021 --> 00:19:19,757 That had any weapons that fit that were stolen, 389 00:19:19,825 --> 00:19:22,693 And nothing significant was found. 390 00:19:22,762 --> 00:19:28,732 And so we put the bolo out for that type of handgun. 391 00:19:28,801 --> 00:19:31,369 - While waiting for the bolo to pay off, 392 00:19:31,371 --> 00:19:37,108 The team focuses on who may have wanted jim chao dead. 393 00:19:37,176 --> 00:19:41,378 - Jim chao has only been in the area since January. 394 00:19:41,447 --> 00:19:43,514 How many people has he gotten to know well enough 395 00:19:43,583 --> 00:19:44,982 In the area that he would be letting them 396 00:19:45,050 --> 00:19:48,085 In the front door? 397 00:19:48,154 --> 00:19:50,588 - With jim's family residing in texas, 398 00:19:50,656 --> 00:19:54,091 The only people he knows in atlanta are his coworkers, 399 00:19:54,159 --> 00:19:57,060 So investigators head to ibm tower, 400 00:19:57,062 --> 00:19:58,829 Hoping for a break. 401 00:19:58,898 --> 00:20:01,865 - I got with ibm security at the wildwood office 402 00:20:01,934 --> 00:20:06,303 To search jim chao's desk, which was ibm property. 403 00:20:06,305 --> 00:20:08,739 Ibm can access it at any time. 404 00:20:08,808 --> 00:20:11,742 In a drawer on the right side, 405 00:20:11,811 --> 00:20:14,644 We found some cards and letters, 406 00:20:14,646 --> 00:20:17,014 Letters of affection, 407 00:20:17,083 --> 00:20:21,418 That were addressed from austin, texas, 408 00:20:21,487 --> 00:20:25,189 From lina lee, which was a name 409 00:20:25,257 --> 00:20:26,690 That I wasn't familiar with. 410 00:20:26,759 --> 00:20:29,960 But it wasn't just a friendship thing. 411 00:20:30,029 --> 00:20:33,831 Found that to be very significant, obviously. 412 00:20:33,899 --> 00:20:36,634 - Jim's widow, lisa chao, had previously 413 00:20:36,702 --> 00:20:40,404 Told investigators that the two had a happy marriage. 414 00:20:40,473 --> 00:20:44,342 Now they wonder why a woman who is not jim chao's wife 415 00:20:44,410 --> 00:20:46,710 Is sending him love notes. 416 00:20:46,779 --> 00:20:48,712 - You start looking at the possibility 417 00:20:48,714 --> 00:20:51,148 Of extramarital affair. 418 00:20:51,216 --> 00:20:54,518 - Detectives ask jim's coworkers about the letters, 419 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:59,023 But none of them know anything about the possible affair. 420 00:20:59,091 --> 00:21:02,859 - There wasn't anything else at his desk that stood out. 421 00:21:02,929 --> 00:21:09,066 So we secured those cards and brought them back. 422 00:21:09,134 --> 00:21:12,703 - The only other person who may know lina lee 423 00:21:12,772 --> 00:21:16,807 Or her relationship with jim is his widow, lisa. 424 00:21:16,876 --> 00:21:19,242 Herman learns lisa is still in atlanta, 425 00:21:19,244 --> 00:21:22,913 Making arrangements to bring jim's body back to texas. 426 00:21:22,982 --> 00:21:25,349 - I was able to interview lisa chao 427 00:21:25,417 --> 00:21:26,616 In a controlled setting, 428 00:21:26,618 --> 00:21:28,586 The homicide office. 429 00:21:28,654 --> 00:21:30,654 It's very difficult to interview 430 00:21:30,656 --> 00:21:32,489 A grieving family member. 431 00:21:32,558 --> 00:21:33,824 It was tough. 432 00:21:33,893 --> 00:21:35,559 You're trying to get the information. 433 00:21:35,628 --> 00:21:38,929 If you say the wrong thing and you press too hard, 434 00:21:38,998 --> 00:21:43,701 She's shutting down, and then we're not getting anywhere. 435 00:21:43,769 --> 00:21:45,769 And I don't want to hurt any feelings, 436 00:21:45,838 --> 00:21:49,907 But you get into two, three days, 48 to 72 hours, 437 00:21:49,975 --> 00:21:51,909 And things really start to fizzle. 438 00:21:51,977 --> 00:21:56,480 So I asked her if she knew anything about lina lee. 439 00:21:56,549 --> 00:21:58,916 And she was hesitant, 440 00:21:58,984 --> 00:22:01,319 And that's when she broke and said, 441 00:22:01,387 --> 00:22:03,154 There were rumors going around 442 00:22:03,222 --> 00:22:05,489 That my husband 443 00:22:05,558 --> 00:22:09,293 Was having an affair with lina lee, 444 00:22:09,361 --> 00:22:11,529 Cc lee's ex-wife, 445 00:22:11,531 --> 00:22:15,933 And asked her husband about it, and he denied it. 446 00:22:16,001 --> 00:22:19,469 I remember thinking that she wanted to believe him. 447 00:22:19,539 --> 00:22:21,872 She wanted her family to be intact. 448 00:22:21,941 --> 00:22:25,542 - The name cc lee is a new one for investigators, 449 00:22:25,611 --> 00:22:29,112 So detective herman asks lisa who he is. 450 00:22:29,114 --> 00:22:32,215 Lisa says that cc lee is a former colleague 451 00:22:32,217 --> 00:22:37,020 Of jim's at ibm who currently lives in houston, texas. 452 00:22:37,089 --> 00:22:40,291 - I was told that cc lee and lina lee 453 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,494 Were divorced in late 1989. 454 00:22:43,562 --> 00:22:46,496 And cc transferred from austin to houston 455 00:22:46,566 --> 00:22:48,098 After their divorce. 456 00:22:48,167 --> 00:22:51,334 Then lisa told me that at some point a few months 457 00:22:51,336 --> 00:22:54,872 Before the murder, she had taken a phone call 458 00:22:54,940 --> 00:22:57,140 From an unidentified male. 459 00:22:57,142 --> 00:22:59,343 She said he was asian and told her, 460 00:22:59,411 --> 00:23:02,846 You need to take care of your husband, keep him happy, 461 00:23:02,848 --> 00:23:05,916 Because two families could be hurt. 462 00:23:05,985 --> 00:23:08,618 To me, that's an inferred threat. 463 00:23:08,688 --> 00:23:12,189 - In an alarming twist, lisa says the disturbing 464 00:23:12,257 --> 00:23:15,158 Phone call was followed up with a visit to her home 465 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,094 By the same person. 466 00:23:17,162 --> 00:23:20,431 - Lisa chao told me that after jim had moved to atlanta, 467 00:23:20,499 --> 00:23:22,933 Cc lee came to her house in austin 468 00:23:23,002 --> 00:23:24,201 And knocked on the door. 469 00:23:24,269 --> 00:23:26,570 ♪ ♪ 470 00:23:26,572 --> 00:23:30,007 He asked her if she knew where her husband was. 471 00:23:30,075 --> 00:23:31,909 She wouldn't let him in. 472 00:23:31,977 --> 00:23:35,112 When she was describing that, I had a bad feeling 473 00:23:35,181 --> 00:23:37,047 About what she was telling me. 474 00:23:37,115 --> 00:23:40,317 - The troubling revelation raises red flags, 475 00:23:40,385 --> 00:23:44,287 Turning the investigators' attention to cc lee. 476 00:23:44,357 --> 00:23:47,958 - I think cc lee was desperate to get back with his ex-wife 477 00:23:48,027 --> 00:23:49,193 And get his family back together 478 00:23:49,261 --> 00:23:51,561 But was convinced that his ex-wife 479 00:23:51,631 --> 00:23:52,963 Was having an affair. 480 00:23:53,032 --> 00:23:55,832 He was upset and consumed with the fact 481 00:23:55,901 --> 00:23:57,835 That it potentially could continue. 482 00:23:57,903 --> 00:24:02,039 - With cc lee's name coming up, you have a suspect. 483 00:24:02,107 --> 00:24:06,510 Did cc lee come out to georgia and commit a murder 484 00:24:06,579 --> 00:24:09,312 Over an affair with an ex-wife? 485 00:24:09,382 --> 00:24:11,348 That's a big question there. 486 00:24:11,416 --> 00:24:16,119 ♪ ♪ 487 00:24:16,188 --> 00:24:18,822 If I had to have somebody in another state 488 00:24:18,891 --> 00:24:21,258 To help me on a case, this is the guy I want. 489 00:24:21,327 --> 00:24:25,228 From the boots to the stetson, he had a presence. 490 00:24:25,230 --> 00:24:27,364 - I remember him telling me, this is something 491 00:24:27,433 --> 00:24:28,899 Straight out of a movie. 492 00:24:28,968 --> 00:24:31,368 I said, well, stranger things have happened. 493 00:24:31,436 --> 00:24:37,475 ♪ ♪ 494 00:24:40,445 --> 00:24:41,712 [dramatic music] 495 00:24:41,780 --> 00:24:43,814 - Three days after jim chao 496 00:24:43,883 --> 00:24:45,816 Was found dead in his apartment 497 00:24:45,884 --> 00:24:48,151 Just outside of atlanta, 498 00:24:48,220 --> 00:24:51,855 Investigators discover he was allegedly having an affair 499 00:24:51,857 --> 00:24:55,192 With a woman in texas. 500 00:24:55,261 --> 00:24:57,961 Jim's widow, lisa, tells detectives 501 00:24:57,963 --> 00:25:00,731 That the mistress' ex-husband, cc lee, 502 00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:03,434 Has been threatening her. 503 00:25:03,502 --> 00:25:06,904 - The first thing that came to all of our minds was, 504 00:25:06,972 --> 00:25:10,407 How is that going to be tied into a homicide 505 00:25:10,476 --> 00:25:13,977 That just happened here in georgia? 506 00:25:13,979 --> 00:25:15,446 There could have been bad blood, 507 00:25:15,514 --> 00:25:19,783 But mr. Chao has been gone in atlanta for some months. 508 00:25:19,785 --> 00:25:21,752 ♪ ♪ 509 00:25:21,820 --> 00:25:25,255 It seemed, at that time, a long shot. 510 00:25:25,324 --> 00:25:27,925 - However, investigators theorize 511 00:25:27,993 --> 00:25:30,194 That jim chao knew his killer. 512 00:25:30,262 --> 00:25:33,730 And according to lisa, cc lee and her husband 513 00:25:33,799 --> 00:25:35,232 Were colleagues. 514 00:25:35,300 --> 00:25:37,734 So detective herman asks lisa if she thinks 515 00:25:37,803 --> 00:25:40,470 Lee could have murdered jim. 516 00:25:40,472 --> 00:25:42,972 - She was adamant she didn't think that cc lee 517 00:25:42,974 --> 00:25:45,309 Had anything to do with it. 518 00:25:45,377 --> 00:25:47,778 But, you know, jealousy, 519 00:25:47,846 --> 00:25:50,947 It's one of the oldest motives in the book. 520 00:25:51,016 --> 00:25:54,517 It falls right up there with money and dope. 521 00:25:54,587 --> 00:25:58,221 So I contacted ibm security 522 00:25:58,223 --> 00:26:00,958 And requested information on cc lee. 523 00:26:01,026 --> 00:26:02,893 - Investigators learn that lee, 524 00:26:02,962 --> 00:26:06,429 Also a taiwanese immigrant, is highly educated 525 00:26:06,431 --> 00:26:09,399 And was part of ibm's nasa program. 526 00:26:09,468 --> 00:26:11,902 - I was told that he worked 527 00:26:11,970 --> 00:26:14,972 Out of the houston, texas, office. 528 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,508 It turns out that cc had worked in austin 529 00:26:18,510 --> 00:26:20,810 With jim chao at some point. 530 00:26:20,812 --> 00:26:22,879 And other than that, I mean, his file 531 00:26:22,948 --> 00:26:24,381 Didn't have anything outstanding, 532 00:26:24,449 --> 00:26:28,352 No issues, no complaints, anything like that. 533 00:26:28,420 --> 00:26:30,387 Cc lee's in texas. 534 00:26:30,455 --> 00:26:33,656 I remember thinking, eh, kind of a long shot. 535 00:26:33,658 --> 00:26:35,059 He's packing a gun on an airline 536 00:26:35,127 --> 00:26:37,995 And going to all this trouble to kill jim chao? 537 00:26:38,063 --> 00:26:40,497 But it's a possibility, so we're gonna run it out. 538 00:26:40,565 --> 00:26:43,433 ♪ ♪ 539 00:26:43,502 --> 00:26:47,304 That's when I reached out to the texas rangers, 540 00:26:47,373 --> 00:26:49,106 Texas state police, 541 00:26:49,174 --> 00:26:52,375 And I was eventually put in touch with joe harrelson. 542 00:26:52,377 --> 00:26:54,477 ♪ ♪ 543 00:26:54,479 --> 00:26:56,079 I gave him the background on the case 544 00:26:56,081 --> 00:26:57,848 And the alleged affair, 545 00:26:57,916 --> 00:26:59,016 And I remember him telling me, he said, 546 00:26:59,084 --> 00:27:00,350 This is something straight out of a movie. 547 00:27:00,419 --> 00:27:02,685 I said, well, yeah, it seems like it. 548 00:27:02,687 --> 00:27:05,255 ♪ ♪ 549 00:27:05,324 --> 00:27:08,759 I said, look, see what you can find out about cc lee. 550 00:27:08,827 --> 00:27:10,694 He said, absolutely. 551 00:27:10,762 --> 00:27:14,164 - While it's far-fetched to believe that cc lee traveled 552 00:27:14,233 --> 00:27:18,101 1,000 miles to atlanta and killed his ex-wife's lover, 553 00:27:18,170 --> 00:27:21,171 The team still needs to follow the trail of evidence. 554 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,706 So ranger harrelson pays a visit 555 00:27:23,708 --> 00:27:25,742 To the ibm offices in houston 556 00:27:25,811 --> 00:27:29,412 To gather information on cc lee. 557 00:27:29,481 --> 00:27:32,449 - Joe harrelson talked to somebody at ibm down there, 558 00:27:32,517 --> 00:27:35,552 So I wasn't expecting anything earth-shattering. 559 00:27:35,620 --> 00:27:38,855 But he calls me back, 560 00:27:38,924 --> 00:27:41,524 And he says, cc lee called in sick to work 561 00:27:41,594 --> 00:27:43,894 April 24, 25, 562 00:27:43,962 --> 00:27:46,997 And a half day on the 26th. 563 00:27:47,066 --> 00:27:50,734 - The investigators make a disturbing connection. 564 00:27:50,803 --> 00:27:54,938 Jim chao was murdered the evening of April 25th, 565 00:27:54,940 --> 00:27:57,808 One of the days lee was allegedly sick. 566 00:27:57,876 --> 00:27:59,376 - That's huge, ok? 567 00:27:59,444 --> 00:28:01,444 You know, as a detective, you're thinking, 568 00:28:01,446 --> 00:28:05,482 Ok, it's a puzzle, but that's a big piece. 569 00:28:05,550 --> 00:28:10,087 - Not only does his absence destroy any potential alibi. 570 00:28:10,155 --> 00:28:14,757 Lee's coworkers reveal something even more damning: 571 00:28:14,759 --> 00:28:17,327 Confirmation of his motive. 572 00:28:17,396 --> 00:28:20,097 - Coworkers of mr. Lee said he was mad 573 00:28:20,165 --> 00:28:22,966 About an extramarital relationship 574 00:28:23,035 --> 00:28:27,671 Between mr. Chao and mr. Lee's former wife. 575 00:28:27,739 --> 00:28:30,841 - The eyewitness reports establishing lee's motive, 576 00:28:30,909 --> 00:28:32,976 Coupled with his mysterious whereabouts 577 00:28:33,044 --> 00:28:35,912 The night of the murder, are enough for harrelson 578 00:28:35,981 --> 00:28:39,116 To confront the suspect. 579 00:28:39,184 --> 00:28:42,453 - Ranger harrelson called me after he had gone out 580 00:28:42,521 --> 00:28:44,521 To meet with cc lee, and he said, 581 00:28:44,589 --> 00:28:46,857 I went out, knocked on the door, introduced myself. 582 00:28:46,925 --> 00:28:48,191 He let me in. 583 00:28:48,193 --> 00:28:49,459 He didn't seem out of sorts. 584 00:28:49,528 --> 00:28:51,528 ♪ ♪ 585 00:28:51,596 --> 00:28:56,199 - He was very candid and open, never requested an attorney, 586 00:28:56,268 --> 00:28:59,069 Seemed to answer all of the questions 587 00:28:59,137 --> 00:29:02,605 That the detectives had, particularly as it related 588 00:29:02,607 --> 00:29:06,276 To the extramarital affair that he was aware of 589 00:29:06,345 --> 00:29:10,581 Between his former wife and mr. Chao 590 00:29:10,649 --> 00:29:14,350 And the fact that he was trying to get back together with her. 591 00:29:14,352 --> 00:29:17,520 - Then harrelson asks lee where he was 592 00:29:17,589 --> 00:29:20,290 At the time of jim chao's murder. 593 00:29:20,359 --> 00:29:23,827 - Cc lee had told him that he was out sick during those days 594 00:29:23,896 --> 00:29:25,962 Preceding the homicide 595 00:29:26,031 --> 00:29:28,965 And he had no knowledge or no part 596 00:29:29,034 --> 00:29:31,601 In the death of jim chao. 597 00:29:31,603 --> 00:29:33,470 - Him being out of work was important, 598 00:29:33,539 --> 00:29:36,740 So harrelson asked him, hey, can anybody confirm? 599 00:29:36,808 --> 00:29:38,308 He said, no, I was here by myself. 600 00:29:38,377 --> 00:29:41,211 Before cell phones, that's the alibi. 601 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,713 But he said he had not gone anywhere. 602 00:29:42,781 --> 00:29:44,381 He was by himself. 603 00:29:44,449 --> 00:29:47,450 - Without anyone else to corroborate lee's story, 604 00:29:47,519 --> 00:29:51,454 Harrelson notes his suspect is growing defensive. 605 00:29:51,523 --> 00:29:53,524 ♪ ♪ 606 00:29:53,592 --> 00:29:56,159 - Cc said, I don't have anything to hide. 607 00:29:56,161 --> 00:29:57,628 I didn't do anything. 608 00:29:57,696 --> 00:29:59,930 Ranger harrelson asked him if he had 609 00:29:59,998 --> 00:30:01,598 Previously owned any handguns. 610 00:30:01,666 --> 00:30:05,468 And, you know, cc said, yes, I had a handgun. 611 00:30:05,537 --> 00:30:08,972 He said he pawned it in the last couple of days. 612 00:30:09,041 --> 00:30:11,775 - Cc lee said he had had a .380 browning, 613 00:30:11,843 --> 00:30:14,411 .380 semiautomatic, 614 00:30:14,479 --> 00:30:18,114 And that was the same make and caliber 615 00:30:18,183 --> 00:30:20,483 As the murder weapon. 616 00:30:20,552 --> 00:30:24,922 - Here's a guy, coincidentally, for two days, 617 00:30:24,990 --> 00:30:27,457 Calls in sick with the flu 618 00:30:27,526 --> 00:30:32,495 That coincides with the murder in atlanta, 619 00:30:32,497 --> 00:30:35,365 And now he's saying he did own a gun 620 00:30:35,433 --> 00:30:37,367 That he just recently pawned. 621 00:30:37,436 --> 00:30:39,803 ♪ ♪ 622 00:30:39,871 --> 00:30:41,572 Obviously, at this point, 623 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,575 There's something about ready to break here. 624 00:30:44,643 --> 00:30:46,609 - It was a game changer. 625 00:30:46,611 --> 00:30:53,383 ♪ ♪ 626 00:30:59,556 --> 00:31:03,059 [dramatic music] 627 00:31:03,128 --> 00:31:04,861 - Cobb county detectives investigating 628 00:31:04,930 --> 00:31:07,630 The brutal execution of jim chao 629 00:31:07,700 --> 00:31:10,333 Have identified a suspect: 630 00:31:10,335 --> 00:31:16,006 Cc lee, the ex-husband of jim's mistress. 631 00:31:16,074 --> 00:31:18,408 Lee just revealed he had a handgun 632 00:31:18,477 --> 00:31:22,012 That matches the make and model of the murder weapon. 633 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,281 ♪ ♪ 634 00:31:24,349 --> 00:31:27,016 [phone rings] 635 00:31:27,086 --> 00:31:29,820 - Harrelson calls me and said, 636 00:31:29,888 --> 00:31:31,621 Cc lee had a pistol, 637 00:31:31,623 --> 00:31:33,824 And he just pawned it a couple days ago. 638 00:31:33,892 --> 00:31:36,727 ♪ ♪ 639 00:31:36,795 --> 00:31:40,697 - Cc lee actually gave him the address of the pawnshop 640 00:31:40,766 --> 00:31:42,232 Where the gun was. 641 00:31:42,301 --> 00:31:44,835 - I remember when joe harrelson called me. 642 00:31:44,903 --> 00:31:46,302 Him and I talked about it. 643 00:31:46,371 --> 00:31:48,671 I mean, what's cc lee gonna say? 644 00:31:48,741 --> 00:31:51,408 He doesn't want to get caught in a lie on it. 645 00:31:51,476 --> 00:31:54,577 Harrelson said, I think this is your guy. 646 00:31:54,646 --> 00:31:59,382 - Detectives herman and banks immediately leave for texas. 647 00:31:59,451 --> 00:32:02,519 Meanwhile, ranger harrelson visits the pawnshop 648 00:32:02,587 --> 00:32:05,788 Where lee allegedly sold his pistol. 649 00:32:05,790 --> 00:32:08,992 - Harrelson confirmed that cc lee had pawned 650 00:32:09,061 --> 00:32:13,496 A browning .380 automatic 651 00:32:13,565 --> 00:32:16,799 And brought in a box of shells 652 00:32:16,801 --> 00:32:19,937 With two missing. 653 00:32:20,005 --> 00:32:24,741 We got our victim shot twice with a browning .380. 654 00:32:24,810 --> 00:32:26,543 This is the gun he pawned. 655 00:32:26,611 --> 00:32:30,280 That was the bang moment. 656 00:32:30,348 --> 00:32:32,715 - Harrelson obtains the gun from the pawnshop 657 00:32:32,785 --> 00:32:38,255 And goes to headquarters to meet with herman and banks. 658 00:32:38,323 --> 00:32:41,024 - I remember pat banks saying on the trip down there, 659 00:32:41,092 --> 00:32:42,693 That's too good to be true. 660 00:32:42,761 --> 00:32:46,429 Surely, surely, he didn't go hock the murder weapon 661 00:32:46,498 --> 00:32:49,232 And come forward with it, and I said, well, 662 00:32:49,301 --> 00:32:51,101 Stranger things have happened. 663 00:32:51,169 --> 00:32:55,104 ♪ ♪ 664 00:32:55,106 --> 00:32:57,274 - When we arrived, we met joe harrelson. 665 00:32:57,342 --> 00:32:59,642 And one of the first thoughts that crossed my mind is, 666 00:32:59,711 --> 00:33:02,545 If I had to have somebody in another state 667 00:33:02,547 --> 00:33:05,348 To help me on a case, this is the guy I want. 668 00:33:05,416 --> 00:33:08,785 From the boots to the stetson, he had a presence. 669 00:33:08,853 --> 00:33:11,854 If we walked in somewhere and he identified himself, 670 00:33:11,856 --> 00:33:14,591 Things moved in a hurry. 671 00:33:14,659 --> 00:33:16,827 ♪ ♪ 672 00:33:16,895 --> 00:33:19,762 - After talking with harrelson, I said, you know, 673 00:33:19,831 --> 00:33:21,999 I'm gonna cold-call him, and he agreed. 674 00:33:22,067 --> 00:33:25,535 - At first, it appeared unlikely cc lee 675 00:33:25,604 --> 00:33:28,805 Traveled to atlanta, gained access to chao's apartment, 676 00:33:28,807 --> 00:33:30,306 And killed him. 677 00:33:30,308 --> 00:33:31,741 But with the recent revelations 678 00:33:31,810 --> 00:33:34,477 About his sick time and gun ownership, 679 00:33:34,479 --> 00:33:36,546 Lee's involvement in jim's death 680 00:33:36,615 --> 00:33:40,016 No longer looks like such a long shot. 681 00:33:40,084 --> 00:33:41,484 ♪ ♪ 682 00:33:41,553 --> 00:33:43,954 - I call cc. He was at home. 683 00:33:44,022 --> 00:33:47,457 I said, we're investigating the murder of jim chao, 684 00:33:47,526 --> 00:33:49,759 And we just wanted to clear a couple things up. 685 00:33:49,828 --> 00:33:51,194 I know you knew him. 686 00:33:51,263 --> 00:33:52,362 And he says, yeah, I heard about that. 687 00:33:52,430 --> 00:33:53,896 That's so sad. 688 00:33:53,898 --> 00:33:57,000 Jim and I were friends, and we knew each other 689 00:33:57,068 --> 00:33:59,836 When we worked together in austin. 690 00:33:59,905 --> 00:34:02,372 So I just segued into, hey, listen, 691 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:03,340 Can we meet you tomorrow? 692 00:34:03,408 --> 00:34:05,975 He said, ok, I'll meet you. 693 00:34:06,044 --> 00:34:08,244 - The following day, may 4th, 694 00:34:08,313 --> 00:34:10,713 A week after jim chao's murder, 695 00:34:10,782 --> 00:34:13,750 Cobb county detectives meet with cc lee 696 00:34:13,819 --> 00:34:17,253 At houston pd's clear lake substation. 697 00:34:17,322 --> 00:34:18,821 ♪ ♪ 698 00:34:18,891 --> 00:34:22,525 - Pat banks and I sat down with cc lee. 699 00:34:22,527 --> 00:34:27,830 I read him his miranda rights, and we started from there. 700 00:34:27,832 --> 00:34:30,367 ♪ ♪ 701 00:34:30,435 --> 00:34:32,302 He said, I'll talk to you. 702 00:34:32,370 --> 00:34:33,603 I'll be glad to, you know, 703 00:34:33,605 --> 00:34:35,405 Answer any questions that you have. 704 00:34:35,474 --> 00:34:36,973 But I don't have a whole lot of time, 705 00:34:37,042 --> 00:34:40,910 'cause I need to get back to austin to visit my family. 706 00:34:40,912 --> 00:34:44,681 And didn't appear to be unusually nervous 707 00:34:44,749 --> 00:34:45,948 Dealing with the police, 708 00:34:45,950 --> 00:34:48,351 But at this point, he wasn't leaving. 709 00:34:48,353 --> 00:34:49,986 I had not officially told him he's under arrest, 710 00:34:50,055 --> 00:34:51,488 But he wasn't leaving. 711 00:34:51,556 --> 00:34:54,156 - Lee explains he misses his kids because 712 00:34:54,158 --> 00:34:56,526 He recently moved to houston from austin 713 00:34:56,595 --> 00:34:58,895 After his divorce from lina. 714 00:34:58,963 --> 00:35:01,231 - When I asked him about jim chao, 715 00:35:01,299 --> 00:35:02,465 He said, oh, he's a friend. 716 00:35:02,467 --> 00:35:05,301 We worked together. 717 00:35:05,370 --> 00:35:06,803 You know, he's just kind of-- 718 00:35:06,872 --> 00:35:08,605 He's just kind of circling around. 719 00:35:08,673 --> 00:35:11,741 - Lee continues to calmly deny 720 00:35:11,743 --> 00:35:14,711 He had any involvement in the cobb county murder, 721 00:35:14,779 --> 00:35:17,647 Frustrating herman and banks. 722 00:35:17,716 --> 00:35:19,682 - I got into a little more confrontational with him, 723 00:35:19,684 --> 00:35:21,451 You know, and I asked him about the affair, 724 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,755 The phone call to lisa chao. 725 00:35:25,824 --> 00:35:27,357 He admitted to that. 726 00:35:27,425 --> 00:35:32,095 And I asked him about the pistol, 727 00:35:32,163 --> 00:35:33,896 And he admitted to that. 728 00:35:33,966 --> 00:35:36,899 When I asked him about traveling to atlanta, 729 00:35:36,901 --> 00:35:38,268 You know, he said, no, I didn't have 730 00:35:38,336 --> 00:35:40,903 Anything to do with this. 731 00:35:40,973 --> 00:35:42,605 At that point, I remember, you know, 732 00:35:42,674 --> 00:35:44,807 I'm just gonna cut straight to it with him, 733 00:35:44,809 --> 00:35:47,243 Because we don't have anything to lose at this point. 734 00:35:47,312 --> 00:35:48,478 Worst thing that's gonna happen is, 735 00:35:48,547 --> 00:35:51,548 He's gonna shut down and say, I'm not talking to you anymore. 736 00:35:51,616 --> 00:35:56,119 - It was then that detective herman 737 00:35:56,187 --> 00:35:58,688 Decided to play what he had. 738 00:35:58,757 --> 00:36:00,991 ♪ ♪ 739 00:36:01,059 --> 00:36:04,694 - I said, cc, we're gonna get the handgun that you pawned, 740 00:36:04,763 --> 00:36:06,596 And we're gonna take it back to georgia, 741 00:36:06,665 --> 00:36:09,165 And we are going to test it and compare it 742 00:36:09,233 --> 00:36:12,135 Against the bullets that were removed 743 00:36:12,203 --> 00:36:13,703 From the victim at autopsy. 744 00:36:13,772 --> 00:36:15,505 And we're gonna be able to tell 745 00:36:15,573 --> 00:36:18,308 If it's the gun used in the killing. 746 00:36:18,376 --> 00:36:20,310 And I get this long stare. 747 00:36:20,378 --> 00:36:22,979 And his shoulders droop down. 748 00:36:23,047 --> 00:36:24,847 And he looks at me, he says, you mean 749 00:36:24,916 --> 00:36:28,985 You can match one gun with one bullet? 750 00:36:29,054 --> 00:36:31,554 - He said, eddie, are you trying to fool me? 751 00:36:31,623 --> 00:36:33,155 And he's very animated. 752 00:36:33,225 --> 00:36:34,991 He's got his arms going while he's doing this, 753 00:36:35,059 --> 00:36:36,592 Like, waving in the air. 754 00:36:36,661 --> 00:36:38,962 Are you trying to tell me, of all the guns, 755 00:36:39,030 --> 00:36:41,764 You can match a bullet? 756 00:36:41,833 --> 00:36:44,000 - I said, yes, it's called ballistics. 757 00:36:44,069 --> 00:36:45,268 [gunshot] 758 00:36:45,336 --> 00:36:48,705 ♪ ♪ 759 00:36:48,773 --> 00:36:50,973 I said, tell us what happened up there. 760 00:36:51,043 --> 00:36:54,777 And then he says to me, let me go visit my family. 761 00:36:54,779 --> 00:36:56,178 Let me go up for the weekend, and I'll meet you 762 00:36:56,248 --> 00:36:57,547 On Sunday evening, and I'll tell you 763 00:36:57,615 --> 00:36:59,081 Everything that happened. 764 00:36:59,083 --> 00:37:02,152 ♪ ♪ 765 00:37:02,220 --> 00:37:04,987 And I said, I can't do that. I can't make you any deals. 766 00:37:04,989 --> 00:37:09,325 Well, you know, at that point, we knew he was our guy. 767 00:37:09,394 --> 00:37:12,662 - Cc lee finally gets to a point where he says, 768 00:37:12,731 --> 00:37:15,398 I need to talk to a lawyer. 769 00:37:15,467 --> 00:37:16,933 - I said, ok. 770 00:37:17,001 --> 00:37:18,267 I'll honor that request. 771 00:37:18,337 --> 00:37:21,037 So we took a break. 772 00:37:21,105 --> 00:37:22,839 Pat went and got him a sandwich, 773 00:37:22,907 --> 00:37:24,574 And then he tells banks, you know, 774 00:37:24,642 --> 00:37:26,609 He wants to speak with me again. 775 00:37:26,678 --> 00:37:28,845 I said, ok, by law, I can talk to you again, 776 00:37:28,913 --> 00:37:30,346 But I've got to read your miranda. 777 00:37:30,415 --> 00:37:31,547 I read him miranda. 778 00:37:31,616 --> 00:37:32,849 He waived his rights again. 779 00:37:32,917 --> 00:37:36,086 ♪ ♪ 780 00:37:36,154 --> 00:37:40,456 - It was at this point that he looked down 781 00:37:40,525 --> 00:37:43,460 And then started to break down and cry. 782 00:37:43,528 --> 00:37:47,096 ♪ ♪ 783 00:37:47,098 --> 00:37:48,898 - And he says, I want to tell you what happened. 784 00:37:48,967 --> 00:37:54,871 ♪ ♪ 785 00:37:54,939 --> 00:37:56,306 [gunshot] 786 00:37:56,374 --> 00:37:59,209 ♪ ♪ 787 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,016 - A week after jim chao was murdered in cobb county, 788 00:38:07,085 --> 00:38:10,186 Detectives are in houston, texas, 789 00:38:10,254 --> 00:38:14,423 Questioning their lead suspect, cc lee. 790 00:38:14,493 --> 00:38:16,626 A few hours into the interrogation, 791 00:38:16,694 --> 00:38:19,295 Lee says he's finally ready to confess 792 00:38:19,364 --> 00:38:23,032 What really happened the night jim was killed. 793 00:38:23,101 --> 00:38:24,500 [dramatic music] 794 00:38:24,569 --> 00:38:27,370 - He said, yes, I want to tell you what happened. 795 00:38:27,372 --> 00:38:31,374 - Lee explains to the team he found letters from jim chao 796 00:38:31,376 --> 00:38:33,776 Addressed to his ex-wife. 797 00:38:33,845 --> 00:38:38,147 - And he said jim chao was still calling his ex-wife 798 00:38:38,149 --> 00:38:40,717 And that it needed to stop. 799 00:38:40,785 --> 00:38:43,853 He just wanted to go and talk to jim chao in person. 800 00:38:43,855 --> 00:38:45,788 ♪ ♪ 801 00:38:45,857 --> 00:38:47,890 And then he goes into booking the flight, 802 00:38:47,959 --> 00:38:50,159 Continental airlines to atlanta. 803 00:38:50,228 --> 00:38:51,327 He checked the weapon. 804 00:38:51,395 --> 00:38:53,630 And back then, it was easy. 805 00:38:53,698 --> 00:38:58,101 Before 9/11, you could take a bazooka on an airline. 806 00:38:58,169 --> 00:39:02,004 - It's now clear to the team how cc lee and his gun 807 00:39:02,073 --> 00:39:03,740 Got to atlanta. 808 00:39:03,808 --> 00:39:06,476 Lee then goes on to tell investigators 809 00:39:06,544 --> 00:39:10,046 That he arrived the night of April 24th. 810 00:39:10,114 --> 00:39:14,751 The next evening, he paid jim chao a visit. 811 00:39:14,819 --> 00:39:16,953 - Lee said chao opened the door and said, 812 00:39:17,021 --> 00:39:18,354 What are you doing here? 813 00:39:18,422 --> 00:39:23,693 He said that he asked jim chao to stop seeing his ex-wife. 814 00:39:23,761 --> 00:39:25,795 And then cc lee said that chao 815 00:39:25,864 --> 00:39:27,697 Started questioning his manhood. 816 00:39:27,765 --> 00:39:30,567 Chao was being confrontational to him. 817 00:39:30,569 --> 00:39:32,001 [camera shutter snapping] 818 00:39:32,003 --> 00:39:34,570 - Jim chao was telling him, you're not a man. 819 00:39:34,639 --> 00:39:36,238 You can't keep a woman. 820 00:39:36,308 --> 00:39:39,008 - And then lee said, I had the gun with me, 821 00:39:39,077 --> 00:39:41,544 And I pulled it out, and I fired. 822 00:39:41,612 --> 00:39:45,782 And then he said it was self-defense. 823 00:39:45,850 --> 00:39:48,150 That's not an accident, and that's not self-defense. 824 00:39:48,219 --> 00:39:50,520 But I didn't want to say, hey, that's bull[bleep]. 825 00:39:50,588 --> 00:39:52,087 I wanted him to keep talking. 826 00:39:52,157 --> 00:39:54,390 And he did. 827 00:39:54,392 --> 00:39:56,659 Then I asked him about the powdered cocaine. 828 00:39:56,728 --> 00:39:58,928 He said that when he had got into town 829 00:39:58,997 --> 00:40:02,098 He had saw an individual standing on the street, 830 00:40:02,166 --> 00:40:05,968 Said he paid $50 for two packets of cocaine. 831 00:40:06,037 --> 00:40:09,838 - Mr. Lee said that he bought cocaine 832 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:14,444 To spread around the scene to taint mr. Chao. 833 00:40:14,512 --> 00:40:16,879 - He said that he got chao's keys. 834 00:40:16,881 --> 00:40:19,015 He locked the deadbolt, took the keys with him, 835 00:40:19,083 --> 00:40:21,418 And he threw them out somewhere in the woods 836 00:40:21,486 --> 00:40:23,953 By the hotel parking lot. 837 00:40:24,022 --> 00:40:25,888 He got up the next morning, and he flew 838 00:40:25,957 --> 00:40:28,157 Back to houston with the gun. 839 00:40:28,226 --> 00:40:32,061 - Lee's confession goes beyond what detectives expected. 840 00:40:32,130 --> 00:40:34,897 He's admitted to premeditated murder. 841 00:40:34,966 --> 00:40:37,700 - I always felt like my mission was to get 842 00:40:37,702 --> 00:40:38,935 An admission or a confession. 843 00:40:39,003 --> 00:40:41,904 That's what happened here. 844 00:40:41,906 --> 00:40:44,974 - It was just incredible that this turnaround 845 00:40:45,043 --> 00:40:50,146 And this confession happened in such a short period of time. 846 00:40:50,214 --> 00:40:51,581 ♪ ♪ 847 00:40:51,649 --> 00:40:53,850 - With cc lee's confession, 848 00:40:53,918 --> 00:40:56,452 Investigators secure a warrant for his arrest 849 00:40:56,454 --> 00:40:58,320 And take him into custody. 850 00:40:58,390 --> 00:41:00,189 ♪ ♪ 851 00:41:00,258 --> 00:41:01,891 The team secures lee's gun 852 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,929 To submit to georgia crime lab for testing. 853 00:41:05,997 --> 00:41:10,132 Detectives herman and banks, along with cc lee, 854 00:41:10,201 --> 00:41:12,868 Travel back to atlanta. 855 00:41:12,937 --> 00:41:15,271 - Once I got to know the chao family, 856 00:41:15,339 --> 00:41:17,774 It was satisfying to be able to give them the news 857 00:41:17,842 --> 00:41:19,842 That we had made the arrest. 858 00:41:19,844 --> 00:41:23,446 - It really confused us as to why someone would go 859 00:41:23,514 --> 00:41:27,183 All the way to atlanta and murder someone 860 00:41:27,185 --> 00:41:31,754 That was having an affair with the guy's ex-wife. 861 00:41:31,822 --> 00:41:34,691 Jim was light-years away in atlanta 862 00:41:34,693 --> 00:41:36,726 And was obviously staying there. 863 00:41:36,794 --> 00:41:39,094 It just made no sense to us at all. 864 00:41:39,096 --> 00:41:41,497 Why would he care at that point? 865 00:41:41,566 --> 00:41:45,567 I think it was a sad time for all of us. 866 00:41:45,569 --> 00:41:49,105 - Cc lee is charged with the murder of jim chao, 867 00:41:49,173 --> 00:41:52,108 And if convicted, he could spend the rest of his life 868 00:41:52,176 --> 00:41:53,943 In prison. 869 00:41:54,012 --> 00:41:56,579 One year after jim's death, 870 00:41:56,647 --> 00:41:59,982 Lee's trial begins in cobb county. 871 00:42:00,051 --> 00:42:02,986 - This case was a very fast-track case 872 00:42:03,054 --> 00:42:06,388 Because the evidence was so good. 873 00:42:06,458 --> 00:42:09,225 - The ballistics tests definitively prove 874 00:42:09,293 --> 00:42:13,229 That lee's gun fired the bullets that killed jim. 875 00:42:13,231 --> 00:42:16,232 Despite the evidence and his confession, 876 00:42:16,300 --> 00:42:20,202 Lee pleads not guilty to the murder. 877 00:42:20,204 --> 00:42:23,072 - We had cc lee's confessions that were allowed in. 878 00:42:23,141 --> 00:42:25,307 And as far as murder weapons go, 879 00:42:25,309 --> 00:42:27,477 I mean, we had the ballistics records. 880 00:42:27,545 --> 00:42:29,812 It was a rock-solid case. 881 00:42:29,881 --> 00:42:33,015 - On may 11, 1991, 882 00:42:33,084 --> 00:42:36,085 Cc lee is found guilty of felony murder 883 00:42:36,154 --> 00:42:38,687 And is sentenced to life in prison. 884 00:42:38,757 --> 00:42:41,925 ♪ ♪ 885 00:42:41,993 --> 00:42:43,993 - We had a certain amount of relief 886 00:42:44,062 --> 00:42:46,763 After we heard the verdict that he was guilty 887 00:42:46,765 --> 00:42:48,564 And sentenced to life in prison. 888 00:42:48,632 --> 00:42:51,367 It never would bring jim back, though. 889 00:42:51,435 --> 00:42:53,670 All of us really felt bad that 890 00:42:53,738 --> 00:42:56,406 Here lisa was without a husband. 891 00:42:56,474 --> 00:42:58,641 Her son was without a father. 892 00:42:58,709 --> 00:43:01,143 It was so sad. 893 00:43:01,212 --> 00:43:03,812 - I believe, if jim was still alive, 894 00:43:03,882 --> 00:43:07,250 We two probably will continue to be friends, 895 00:43:07,318 --> 00:43:10,386 Play tennis, and his family and my family 896 00:43:10,454 --> 00:43:11,854 Will get to know each other. 897 00:43:11,923 --> 00:43:14,390 Yes, I do believe so. 898 00:43:14,459 --> 00:43:19,295 - And it was just still sad whenever we thought about jim 899 00:43:19,363 --> 00:43:21,964 And what his family was going through. 900 00:43:21,966 --> 00:43:25,735 It was all about missing a very happy man 901 00:43:25,803 --> 00:43:30,439 That we all loved and enjoyed hanging around. 902 00:43:30,441 --> 00:43:37,280 ♪ ♪