1 00:00:08,108 --> 00:00:09,409 [dramatic music] 2 00:00:10,210 --> 00:00:12,379 - A family dispute turns deadly. 3 00:00:12,412 --> 00:00:14,247 - He said, "I shot my sister. 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,883 I think she's dead." 5 00:00:16,916 --> 00:00:20,086 - If I don't get what I want, then I'm gonna scorch Earth. 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,255 - He definitely snapped. 7 00:00:22,288 --> 00:00:24,257 - It leaves relatives shattered. 8 00:00:24,290 --> 00:00:26,192 - And he's like, "Well, your mama's killed." 9 00:00:26,226 --> 00:00:28,661 And I just broke down. 10 00:00:28,695 --> 00:00:31,297 - And then another woman goes missing. 11 00:00:31,331 --> 00:00:33,700 - It's another family he just devasted. 12 00:00:33,733 --> 00:00:36,269 - The whole of New York City is on edge. 13 00:00:36,302 --> 00:00:38,905 - The hunt is on tonight for a Jamaican man 14 00:00:38,938 --> 00:00:41,441 suspected of murder and abduction. 15 00:00:41,474 --> 00:00:43,743 - And you know what? The chase was on again, 16 00:00:43,777 --> 00:00:47,447 cars, detectives, aviation, all of this. 17 00:00:47,480 --> 00:00:49,816 - The manhunt expands to the whole country 18 00:00:49,849 --> 00:00:51,151 and even beyond. 19 00:00:51,184 --> 00:00:52,452 - I went to Georgia. 20 00:00:52,485 --> 00:00:55,021 I was in North Carolina, South Carolina. 21 00:00:55,055 --> 00:00:57,023 - We had a lot of international tips. 22 00:00:57,057 --> 00:01:00,660 - NYPD's best always seems to be one step behind. 23 00:01:00,694 --> 00:01:02,696 - Another five minutes and we were able to get him. 24 00:01:02,729 --> 00:01:05,331 - The days turned into weeks, weeks turned into months, 25 00:01:05,365 --> 00:01:06,700 months turned into years. 26 00:01:06,733 --> 00:01:08,868 - But New York's finest won't give up. 27 00:01:08,902 --> 00:01:11,805 - I'm gonna hunt you down. I'm gonna find you. 28 00:01:11,838 --> 00:01:13,740 - The man is pure evil. 29 00:01:13,773 --> 00:01:15,942 [tense music] 30 00:01:15,975 --> 00:01:18,945 [dramatic music] 31 00:01:18,978 --> 00:01:26,152 * * 32 00:01:35,995 --> 00:01:39,532 - Back in 2002, we caught a case that I will never forget, 33 00:01:39,566 --> 00:01:41,568 one that sent every level of law enforcement 34 00:01:41,601 --> 00:01:43,670 from our guys in blue to the U.S. Marshals 35 00:01:43,703 --> 00:01:46,239 on a manhunt that crisscrossed not only New York 36 00:01:46,272 --> 00:01:48,975 but across the nation and beyond our borders. 37 00:01:49,009 --> 00:01:51,277 The mystery started in Crown Heights, Brooklyn, 38 00:01:51,311 --> 00:01:53,513 homethe largest West Indian population 39 00:01:53,546 --> 00:01:55,982 outside the Caribbean, where extended families 40 00:01:56,016 --> 00:01:57,984 come to live out the American dream, 41 00:01:58,018 --> 00:01:59,352 a neighborhood that represents 42 00:01:59,386 --> 00:02:01,654 the great melting pot that is New York. 43 00:02:01,688 --> 00:02:03,690 But on a hot summer night in July, 44 00:02:03,723 --> 00:02:06,226 a routine call turns into a deadly discovery 45 00:02:06,259 --> 00:02:09,129 that would stun this vibrant community. 46 00:02:09,162 --> 00:02:16,670 * * 47 00:02:16,703 --> 00:02:18,371 - On July 8, 2002, 48 00:02:18,405 --> 00:02:20,073 my partner and I were on patrol. 49 00:02:20,073 --> 00:02:22,275 And at about 10:30 at night 50 00:02:22,308 --> 00:02:24,344 the dispatcher reads out a job. 51 00:02:24,377 --> 00:02:27,747 It came over as a 1056, possible female down 52 00:02:27,781 --> 00:02:30,917 in Brooklyn at 1669 Carroll Street. 53 00:02:30,950 --> 00:02:33,720 A 1056 is generally not an emergency call. 54 00:02:33,753 --> 00:02:35,388 It's usually, you know, a minor medical call, 55 00:02:35,422 --> 00:02:36,823 someone needs assistance. 56 00:02:39,626 --> 00:02:41,528 My partner and I entered the apartment, 57 00:02:41,561 --> 00:02:44,431 and I noticed that toward the back of the apartment 58 00:02:44,464 --> 00:02:46,099 there was a light that appeared 59 00:02:46,099 --> 00:02:47,901 to be coming from a TV. 60 00:02:47,934 --> 00:02:50,103 [radio chatter] 61 00:02:50,103 --> 00:02:54,808 It turns out to be a bedroom, and as I enter the bedroom 62 00:02:54,841 --> 00:02:58,345 I see a woman laying on the bed. 63 00:02:58,378 --> 00:03:00,880 So I call out to her. I get no response. 64 00:03:00,914 --> 00:03:02,615 And as I step into the room, 65 00:03:02,649 --> 00:03:07,420 I see the bullet wound in the back of her head. 66 00:03:07,454 --> 00:03:09,055 Once I saw the pool of blood, 67 00:03:09,089 --> 00:03:13,059 I knew that this was way beyond just a routine call. 68 00:03:13,093 --> 00:03:17,697 * * 69 00:03:17,731 --> 00:03:19,366 - I'm playing basketball in high school 70 00:03:19,399 --> 00:03:21,067 and earlier in that day, 71 00:03:21,101 --> 00:03:24,504 I had a game at a park not too far from my house. 72 00:03:24,537 --> 00:03:27,407 The game was at about 6:00, I want to say. 73 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:28,908 [upbeat funky music] 74 00:03:28,942 --> 00:03:30,477 I was like, "Mom, can you come to the game?" 75 00:03:30,510 --> 00:03:32,612 And she was like, "Okay, well, yeah. I'll come." 76 00:03:32,645 --> 00:03:34,814 I gave her a kiss and said, "Okay, Mom, I'll see you then." 77 00:03:34,848 --> 00:03:36,549 After a little while, I'm like, 78 00:03:36,583 --> 00:03:38,818 "She should be here." 79 00:03:38,852 --> 00:03:39,753 I finished the game, 80 00:03:39,786 --> 00:03:41,421 and I went to my grandfather's house. 81 00:03:41,454 --> 00:03:44,924 [tense music] 82 00:03:44,958 --> 00:03:46,926 And I'm hearing him on the phone. 83 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,495 He's frantic. I hear him saying, 84 00:03:48,528 --> 00:03:49,429 "Andre, how could you do that? 85 00:03:49,462 --> 00:03:52,399 That's your sister. That's your sister." 86 00:03:52,432 --> 00:03:55,635 He's talking to my Uncle Andre. 87 00:03:55,669 --> 00:03:56,936 So me hearing, "That's your sister," 88 00:03:56,970 --> 00:03:58,304 I'm like, "Grandpa, is everything okay?" 89 00:03:58,338 --> 00:03:59,239 He's like, "Yeah, everything's fine." 90 00:03:59,272 --> 00:04:00,540 My grandfather then says, 91 00:04:00,573 --> 00:04:02,509 "Oh, did you speak to your mom?" 92 00:04:02,542 --> 00:04:05,412 I'm like, "I spoke to her today about 4:30." 93 00:04:05,445 --> 00:04:07,247 He's like, "Can you call her? I've been trying to get her." 94 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,082 I'm like, "Okay." 95 00:04:09,115 --> 00:04:12,452 I remember I took the phone, and I called her. 96 00:04:12,485 --> 00:04:14,220 The phone is busy, 97 00:04:14,254 --> 00:04:17,057 so I called her again and again. 98 00:04:17,057 --> 00:04:20,126 But I'm, like, this is the third time I've called. 99 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:21,127 Why is the phone busy? 100 00:04:21,161 --> 00:04:23,463 * * 101 00:04:23,496 --> 00:04:24,964 And I'm, like, I know my mom. 102 00:04:25,065 --> 00:04:26,733 She's not gonna be on the phone for that long. 103 00:04:26,766 --> 00:04:28,802 * * 104 00:04:28,835 --> 00:04:30,670 And at this point, I had a bad feeling, 105 00:04:30,704 --> 00:04:32,072 and I just ran out the house. 106 00:04:32,072 --> 00:04:35,141 * * 107 00:04:35,175 --> 00:04:38,978 - Meanwhile, four miles north at 1669 Carroll Street, 108 00:04:39,079 --> 00:04:41,848 homicide detectives have been called in. 109 00:04:41,881 --> 00:04:44,517 - Patrol tells us they had responded to the call 110 00:04:44,551 --> 00:04:48,088 from a father who was looking to check on his daughter. 111 00:04:48,121 --> 00:04:49,356 I walked into the bedroom. 112 00:04:49,389 --> 00:04:52,292 I saw a female laying across her bed. 113 00:04:52,325 --> 00:04:54,627 * * 114 00:04:54,661 --> 00:04:55,895 She had what appeared to be 115 00:04:55,929 --> 00:04:58,098 the phone cord wrapped around her hand. 116 00:04:58,098 --> 00:05:01,835 And on the bed was a shell casing. 117 00:05:01,868 --> 00:05:03,536 We waited for the medical examiner to come 118 00:05:03,570 --> 00:05:06,439 and do a further investigation. 119 00:05:06,473 --> 00:05:07,674 They rolled her over, and she was shot 120 00:05:07,707 --> 00:05:09,042 once in the stomach also. 121 00:05:09,075 --> 00:05:11,711 * * 122 00:05:11,745 --> 00:05:14,414 The victim was Patricia Neverson. 123 00:05:14,447 --> 00:05:17,517 * * 124 00:05:17,550 --> 00:05:19,853 - Outside, Akim Neverson, 125 00:05:19,886 --> 00:05:22,188 who is unable to reach his mom on the phone, 126 00:05:22,222 --> 00:05:25,058 is sprinting up the street. 127 00:05:25,091 --> 00:05:28,428 - I could see that it's an ambulance in front of my house. 128 00:05:28,461 --> 00:05:30,096 I could see all the cops. 129 00:05:30,130 --> 00:05:33,433 So when I ran to the house, a cop grabbed me. 130 00:05:33,466 --> 00:05:34,901 So I tried to push through him, 131 00:05:34,934 --> 00:05:37,203 and he was like, "Do you know Patricia Neverson?" 132 00:05:37,237 --> 00:05:38,805 And I'm like, "Yeah, that's my mom." 133 00:05:38,838 --> 00:05:41,074 And he's like, "Well, your mom was killed." 134 00:05:41,107 --> 00:05:44,077 [somber music] 135 00:05:44,110 --> 00:05:45,412 * * 136 00:05:45,445 --> 00:05:48,214 And I just broke down. 137 00:05:48,248 --> 00:05:55,422 * * 138 00:05:59,192 --> 00:06:01,828 My mother grew up in Trinidad. 139 00:06:01,861 --> 00:06:05,799 She was 22 when she came here. 140 00:06:05,832 --> 00:06:08,535 She came from very little, so when you come from that, 141 00:06:08,568 --> 00:06:10,837 you know how to really appreciate 142 00:06:10,870 --> 00:06:13,373 what you have when you acquire it. 143 00:06:13,406 --> 00:06:16,209 The dream she wanted to achieve was acquiring a house. 144 00:06:16,242 --> 00:06:18,078 She always wanted that. 145 00:06:18,111 --> 00:06:19,646 She always wanted to show us that, you know, 146 00:06:19,679 --> 00:06:22,382 if you want something, you just have to push towards it, 147 00:06:22,415 --> 00:06:25,418 and don't let anybody tell you you can't do it. 148 00:06:25,452 --> 00:06:26,953 - As a single mom, 149 00:06:27,053 --> 00:06:30,256 Patricia sometimes had to lean on her family for help, 150 00:06:30,290 --> 00:06:32,726 especially her brother Andre. 151 00:06:32,759 --> 00:06:35,895 - They were very close; like, they were very close. 152 00:06:35,929 --> 00:06:39,165 Uncle Andre lived with us. He was my favorite uncle. 153 00:06:39,199 --> 00:06:41,434 He was the one that was there the whole time. 154 00:06:41,468 --> 00:06:43,269 I learned the most from him. 155 00:06:43,303 --> 00:06:45,071 He DJs in nightclubs. 156 00:06:45,105 --> 00:06:48,141 He's big and strong. He was like a bodybuilder. 157 00:06:48,174 --> 00:06:51,277 He always had attractive women around him. 158 00:06:51,311 --> 00:06:53,079 I think he's probably top three 159 00:06:53,079 --> 00:06:56,149 smartest people I've met in my life. 160 00:06:56,182 --> 00:06:58,785 - Now Detective Margraf is told that the person 161 00:06:58,818 --> 00:07:01,821 who called 911 in the first place, Akim's grandfather, 162 00:07:01,855 --> 00:07:04,290 has just arrived at the house. 163 00:07:04,324 --> 00:07:05,625 - I was directed to speak to 164 00:07:05,658 --> 00:07:07,694 the gentleman that was in front of the house. 165 00:07:07,727 --> 00:07:10,296 His name was Denzil Humphrey. 166 00:07:10,330 --> 00:07:13,600 Denzil Humphrey is Patricia Neverson's father, 167 00:07:13,633 --> 00:07:17,470 and his brother, Volven Humphrey, was there. 168 00:07:17,504 --> 00:07:19,039 I spoke to both of them. 169 00:07:19,039 --> 00:07:22,308 And while I speak to Denzil Humphrey, 170 00:07:22,342 --> 00:07:24,044 he could barely talk to me. 171 00:07:24,044 --> 00:07:25,779 Volven was standing next to him, 172 00:07:25,812 --> 00:07:27,781 and he smacked Denzil behind the head and said, 173 00:07:27,814 --> 00:07:29,315 "Tell them right now. Stop playing games." 174 00:07:29,349 --> 00:07:31,184 [tense music] 175 00:07:31,217 --> 00:07:33,420 That's when Denzil told me, "I received a phone call from 176 00:07:33,453 --> 00:07:37,557 "my son Andre Neverson, who told me that I shot my sister. 177 00:07:37,590 --> 00:07:39,059 I think she's dead." 178 00:07:39,092 --> 00:07:42,228 * * 179 00:07:42,262 --> 00:07:45,899 When he told me it was Andre, Pat's brother, 180 00:07:45,932 --> 00:07:48,134 that shot her. it is shocking, 181 00:07:48,168 --> 00:07:50,770 definitely shocking. 182 00:07:50,804 --> 00:07:52,772 - Detectives immediately call in a request 183 00:07:52,806 --> 00:07:55,075 for a background check on Andre Neverson. 184 00:07:55,075 --> 00:07:56,876 They learn that the bodybuilding, suave, 185 00:07:56,910 --> 00:08:00,080 ladies' man had a serious temper and no impulse control 186 00:08:00,113 --> 00:08:04,250 that had put him in NYPD's custody back in 1992. 187 00:08:04,284 --> 00:08:05,852 - He did five years in prison 188 00:08:05,885 --> 00:08:08,788 for trying to murder his girlfriend's uncle. 189 00:08:08,822 --> 00:08:11,057 - We know that Andre was very rough with the girlfriend. 190 00:08:11,091 --> 00:08:13,293 It was definitely domestic abuse there. 191 00:08:13,326 --> 00:08:15,195 Her uncle confronted Andre. 192 00:08:15,228 --> 00:08:18,198 Andre shot the uncle five times. 193 00:08:18,231 --> 00:08:20,633 He tried to kill him, 194 00:08:20,667 --> 00:08:24,170 so we know Andre had a propensity of violence. 195 00:08:24,204 --> 00:08:27,574 - Andre did not value human life 196 00:08:27,607 --> 00:08:29,909 the same way that others do, 197 00:08:29,943 --> 00:08:32,345 certainly not his sister, who was the only person 198 00:08:32,379 --> 00:08:35,115 that was really ever trying to help him. 199 00:08:35,148 --> 00:08:36,783 - When Uncle Andre went to prison, 200 00:08:36,816 --> 00:08:39,819 I think I was about in third grade at that time. 201 00:08:39,853 --> 00:08:42,155 We would go to see him every week. 202 00:08:42,188 --> 00:08:45,392 She'd drive up the eight hours to bring people up to see him. 203 00:08:45,425 --> 00:08:48,294 She used to put my name in his books, things like that. 204 00:08:48,328 --> 00:08:52,365 * * 205 00:08:52,399 --> 00:08:55,201 - While inside, Andre received a financial settlement 206 00:08:55,235 --> 00:08:58,605 from a lawsuit with the city for $20,000 207 00:08:58,638 --> 00:09:01,708 and shared it with his devoted sister. 208 00:09:01,741 --> 00:09:04,778 - My uncle got money, because before he went to prison, 209 00:09:04,811 --> 00:09:06,780 he was driving, and an ambulance 210 00:09:06,813 --> 00:09:09,082 ran a red light and hit him. 211 00:09:09,115 --> 00:09:10,283 My mother's dream was to buy a house. 212 00:09:10,316 --> 00:09:13,019 She said, "Look, you have this money. You're in prison. 213 00:09:13,019 --> 00:09:15,155 "I'm gonna take it to buy the house. 214 00:09:15,188 --> 00:09:19,025 When you come out, I'll give you the money back," you know? 215 00:09:19,025 --> 00:09:21,661 - Patricia bought the house, but when Andre's sentence 216 00:09:21,695 --> 00:09:24,764 was up a few years later, he was paroled and deported 217 00:09:24,798 --> 00:09:26,232 back to Trinidad. 218 00:09:26,266 --> 00:09:29,569 And Patricia wanted her closest brother back. 219 00:09:29,602 --> 00:09:32,272 * * 220 00:09:32,305 --> 00:09:36,042 - Patricia and two other girls had got $10,000 in order to 221 00:09:36,076 --> 00:09:39,446 get this fake passport to get Andre back in the country. 222 00:09:39,479 --> 00:09:43,049 - Once reunited, tensions over the money Andre loaned 223 00:09:43,049 --> 00:09:45,618 Patricia to buy the house ramp up. 224 00:09:45,652 --> 00:09:47,887 - He gets back into New York, into the country, 225 00:09:47,921 --> 00:09:49,789 and he starts living with Patricia. 226 00:09:49,823 --> 00:09:52,659 There's a dispute over money. 227 00:09:52,692 --> 00:09:53,860 - He wanted a piece of that house. 228 00:09:53,893 --> 00:09:55,795 He wanted to be on the title, which was impossible, 229 00:09:55,829 --> 00:09:58,465 because he was technically violating his parole. 230 00:09:58,498 --> 00:10:00,033 He was now a fugitive. 231 00:10:00,066 --> 00:10:02,168 He wasn't even supposed to be in the country. 232 00:10:02,202 --> 00:10:05,839 And his sister even offered to give him the money back. 233 00:10:05,872 --> 00:10:07,741 - He didn't want the money. He wanted the house. 234 00:10:07,774 --> 00:10:09,476 - Every day he's in this house 235 00:10:09,509 --> 00:10:12,178 he gets more and more burnt that he gave her the money. 236 00:10:12,212 --> 00:10:14,180 "This is my house. Why is she in this house?" 237 00:10:14,214 --> 00:10:17,050 And him and Patricia started fighting about this. 238 00:10:17,083 --> 00:10:20,020 And it just seems like Andre just snapped. 239 00:10:20,053 --> 00:10:21,921 - And it's like, "If I don't get what I want, 240 00:10:21,955 --> 00:10:23,723 then I'm gonna scorch Earth. 241 00:10:23,757 --> 00:10:26,993 * * 242 00:10:27,027 --> 00:10:28,328 - After gathering evidence 243 00:10:28,361 --> 00:10:30,397 and talking to Akim and his grandfather, 244 00:10:30,430 --> 00:10:33,500 police are optimistic they can get to Andre. 245 00:10:33,533 --> 00:10:35,268 - This case was different than the rest, 246 00:10:35,301 --> 00:10:37,704 because we knew the killer upfront, 247 00:10:37,737 --> 00:10:39,272 so we figured it was just 248 00:10:39,305 --> 00:10:42,976 a matter of time that we were gonna bring Andre in. 249 00:10:43,009 --> 00:10:45,512 - But just as the search is about to get under way 250 00:10:45,545 --> 00:10:48,014 detectives get information that takes the manhunt 251 00:10:48,048 --> 00:10:50,183 to a whole new level of urgency. 252 00:10:50,216 --> 00:10:53,053 - We're getting ready to walk away from 1669 Carroll Street, 253 00:10:53,086 --> 00:10:55,422 and a woman is walking up the sidewalk 254 00:10:55,455 --> 00:10:59,526 and says, "Detective, Andre is dating my daughter, 255 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,094 Donna Davis." 256 00:11:01,127 --> 00:11:02,495 They were having problems. 257 00:11:02,529 --> 00:11:04,698 My daughter could be with Andre right now." 258 00:11:04,731 --> 00:11:08,068 - Her daughter was, missing, and she had a lot of concerns. 259 00:11:08,068 --> 00:11:09,536 We were treating her as somebody 260 00:11:09,569 --> 00:11:11,071 we need to get right away. 261 00:11:11,104 --> 00:11:13,973 * * 262 00:11:14,074 --> 00:11:15,909 - Coming up... - Well, cops said, 263 00:11:15,942 --> 00:11:16,910 "You know, we're gonna find him." 264 00:11:16,943 --> 00:11:20,347 And I said, "Sir, you're not gonna find him." 265 00:11:20,380 --> 00:11:22,082 - We spoke to one of Donna Davis' friends, 266 00:11:22,115 --> 00:11:25,285 who remembered Donna getting into the van with Andre. 267 00:11:25,318 --> 00:11:28,755 He's a monster, cold, calculating killer. 268 00:11:39,198 --> 00:11:41,867 [dramatic music] 269 00:11:42,134 --> 00:11:45,771 * * 270 00:11:45,804 --> 00:11:47,673 [dog barking] 271 00:11:47,706 --> 00:11:50,409 - Detectives have just learned that Patricia Neverson 272 00:11:50,442 --> 00:11:52,211 was not only murdered in cold blood 273 00:11:52,244 --> 00:11:54,113 but by her own brother, 274 00:11:54,113 --> 00:11:56,315 who actually confessed to the homicide. 275 00:11:56,348 --> 00:11:58,350 But before the manhunt can even start 276 00:11:58,384 --> 00:12:00,686 for Andre Neverson, they find out another woman 277 00:12:00,719 --> 00:12:02,721 connected to our suspect is missing. 278 00:12:02,755 --> 00:12:04,923 [sirens wailing] 279 00:12:04,957 --> 00:12:07,726 - I don't know how people hear things so quickly, 280 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,762 but the word spreads. 281 00:12:09,795 --> 00:12:11,063 And we're getting ready to 282 00:12:11,063 --> 00:12:13,432 walk away from 1669 Carroll Street, 283 00:12:13,465 --> 00:12:15,501 and a woman is walking up the sidewalk 284 00:12:15,534 --> 00:12:18,203 and says, "Detective, I heard something may have 285 00:12:18,237 --> 00:12:20,706 happened to Andre's sister." I go, "Yeah." 286 00:12:20,739 --> 00:12:23,442 She goes, "Well, Andre's dating my daughter, 287 00:12:23,475 --> 00:12:25,644 Donna Davis." 288 00:12:25,678 --> 00:12:27,913 They were having problems, and she had somehow 289 00:12:27,946 --> 00:12:29,915 broke off with Andre and now, all of a sudden, 290 00:12:29,948 --> 00:12:31,250 Andre kills his sister, 291 00:12:31,283 --> 00:12:34,687 and Donna hasn't been home yet from school. 292 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,256 And I'm concerned. 293 00:12:37,289 --> 00:12:39,758 - When Daisy Davis came 294 00:12:39,792 --> 00:12:41,460 and Donna's father came as well, 295 00:12:41,493 --> 00:12:43,262 they pleaded with us. They let us know that, 296 00:12:43,295 --> 00:12:45,164 "Look, there's something wrong here." 297 00:12:45,197 --> 00:12:48,334 First of all, Donna came home every night like clockwork. 298 00:12:48,367 --> 00:12:49,468 Never missed that. 299 00:12:49,501 --> 00:12:51,003 Very, very close with her family. 300 00:13:09,054 --> 00:13:11,657 - They were extremely concerned. 301 00:13:11,690 --> 00:13:13,058 We were treating her as somebody 302 00:13:13,058 --> 00:13:14,426 we need to get right away. 303 00:13:19,264 --> 00:13:21,400 - As soon as classes start the next morning, 304 00:13:21,433 --> 00:13:24,837 with Donna still missing, detectives head to her school. 305 00:13:24,870 --> 00:13:26,872 - On the evening of July 8th, 306 00:13:26,905 --> 00:13:28,874 after Andre killed his sister, 307 00:13:28,907 --> 00:13:32,478 we found out he went to the school to find Donna Davis. 308 00:13:32,511 --> 00:13:34,446 - We spoke to one of Donna Davis' friends. 309 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,384 She remembered Donna getting into the van with Andre. 310 00:13:38,417 --> 00:13:39,952 She remembered looking at Donna, 311 00:13:39,985 --> 00:13:40,986 and she could just tell by her body language 312 00:13:41,086 --> 00:13:42,321 that she didn't look like 313 00:13:42,354 --> 00:13:43,989 she wanted to get in the van at the time. 314 00:13:44,089 --> 00:13:45,924 - The witness tells police 315 00:13:45,958 --> 00:13:48,861 Andre was driving a blue Dodge Caravan. 316 00:13:48,894 --> 00:13:51,530 To law enforcement this could be going one of two ways. 317 00:13:51,563 --> 00:13:54,099 Either Donna is helping Andre evade the law 318 00:13:54,099 --> 00:13:57,369 or she's in grave danger. 319 00:13:57,403 --> 00:13:59,538 - We want to alert the public that this guy is 320 00:13:59,571 --> 00:14:02,374 armed and dangerous, and he definitely has some issues. 321 00:14:02,408 --> 00:14:05,244 - The hunt is on tonight for a Jamaican man 322 00:14:05,277 --> 00:14:08,180 suspected of murder and abduction. 323 00:14:08,213 --> 00:14:10,449 - The hunt for Andre was a pretty big one. 324 00:14:10,482 --> 00:14:12,484 But, you know, there's all these tools we use. 325 00:14:12,518 --> 00:14:13,352 Did he use his credit cards? 326 00:14:13,385 --> 00:14:14,953 We were up on the credit cards. 327 00:14:15,054 --> 00:14:16,955 Cell phones. We were up on cell phones. 328 00:14:17,056 --> 00:14:19,291 * * 329 00:14:19,324 --> 00:14:21,894 - But if there are 8 million stories in the naked city, 330 00:14:21,927 --> 00:14:23,862 there are almost as many places to hide 331 00:14:23,896 --> 00:14:27,232 and avenues to skip town altogether. 332 00:14:27,266 --> 00:14:29,935 - There's so many people. I mean, there's subways. 333 00:14:29,968 --> 00:14:31,804 There's multiple bridges, tunnels. 334 00:14:31,837 --> 00:14:36,408 We knew he had a car. Port authority's on board. 335 00:14:36,442 --> 00:14:39,345 We notified Jersey police, Pennsylvania state police. 336 00:14:39,378 --> 00:14:40,846 We had all these different agencies 337 00:14:40,879 --> 00:14:41,880 on a lookout for Andre. 338 00:14:41,914 --> 00:14:45,551 * * 339 00:14:45,584 --> 00:14:48,320 - In a city this big, cops know the fastest way to 340 00:14:48,354 --> 00:14:51,390 catch a killer is if the family of the suspect is cooperating. 341 00:14:51,423 --> 00:14:54,426 And the Neversons were ready to talk. 342 00:14:54,460 --> 00:14:56,562 * * 343 00:14:56,595 --> 00:15:00,099 - We had the Neverson family giving whatever information 344 00:15:00,132 --> 00:15:02,401 they could to get Andre off the street. 345 00:15:02,434 --> 00:15:04,436 * * 346 00:15:04,470 --> 00:15:06,372 - They were telling us that Andre had different 347 00:15:06,405 --> 00:15:09,541 girlfriends, and some of these girls had children with him. 348 00:15:09,575 --> 00:15:11,543 So once we got these new addresses, 349 00:15:11,577 --> 00:15:15,047 we started to send people out to go look for Andre. 350 00:15:15,047 --> 00:15:16,515 - Detectives try to assure the family 351 00:15:16,548 --> 00:15:18,250 that they would catch Andre soon. 352 00:15:18,283 --> 00:15:23,055 But Patricia's son Akim wasn't so sure. 353 00:15:23,088 --> 00:15:24,423 - And I remember this night really vividly. 354 00:15:24,456 --> 00:15:25,858 * * 355 00:15:25,891 --> 00:15:28,060 A cop said, "We're gonna find him." 356 00:15:28,093 --> 00:15:30,963 And I said, "Sir, you're not gonna find him." 357 00:15:31,063 --> 00:15:33,465 I said, "No disrespect to you guys, but if he did something 358 00:15:33,499 --> 00:15:36,468 to this magnitude, it's no way he didn't calculate it." 359 00:15:36,502 --> 00:15:37,169 * * 360 00:15:37,202 --> 00:15:38,971 If he's gonna kill someone, 361 00:15:39,071 --> 00:15:41,674 he's not gonna just have a little hole-in-the-wall story. 362 00:15:41,707 --> 00:15:43,642 It's gonna be something well-thought-out. 363 00:15:43,676 --> 00:15:45,711 It's gonna be financially secured so he could do it. 364 00:15:45,744 --> 00:15:47,680 [sirens wailing] 365 00:15:47,713 --> 00:15:49,081 - According the family, 366 00:15:49,081 --> 00:15:51,283 Andre boasted after he was sent to jail 367 00:15:51,316 --> 00:15:54,086 that he'd make sure to never go back. 368 00:15:54,119 --> 00:15:59,158 - Andre Neverson believed that he understood police procedure 369 00:15:59,191 --> 00:16:01,093 better than the police. 370 00:16:01,126 --> 00:16:04,730 And he said while in jail that he was never going back 371 00:16:04,763 --> 00:16:08,467 because he was so sure that he understood the psychology 372 00:16:08,500 --> 00:16:11,904 and how police worked and conducted investigations 373 00:16:11,937 --> 00:16:13,906 that he could stay one step ahead of them. 374 00:16:13,939 --> 00:16:20,913 * * 375 00:16:20,946 --> 00:16:24,149 - It's been 48 hours since Patricia Neverson's murder, 376 00:16:24,183 --> 00:16:26,318 and the full force of the NYPD 377 00:16:26,352 --> 00:16:27,953 has been out looking for Andre 378 00:16:28,053 --> 00:16:32,324 in the blue Dodge Caravan he was last seen driving. 379 00:16:32,358 --> 00:16:36,061 Finally, a patrol unit spots it near the water's edge 380 00:16:36,061 --> 00:16:39,932 in a remote part of Canarsie, Brooklyn. 381 00:16:39,965 --> 00:16:44,436 - The van was found abandoned in 69 precinct in Seaview park. 382 00:16:44,470 --> 00:16:46,071 The detectives flew over there. 383 00:16:46,105 --> 00:16:49,108 [sirens wailing] 384 00:16:49,141 --> 00:16:51,410 They walked up to it slow and looked inside the van. 385 00:16:51,443 --> 00:16:54,246 * * 386 00:16:54,279 --> 00:16:58,083 They did notice some kind of clothing and stuff, 387 00:16:58,083 --> 00:17:01,553 but there was nobody in the van. 388 00:17:01,587 --> 00:17:03,155 * * 389 00:17:03,188 --> 00:17:06,792 Now, detectives went through the van. 390 00:17:06,825 --> 00:17:10,396 They found a yellow T-shirt with blood. 391 00:17:10,429 --> 00:17:13,232 They found bloodstains on a rug. 392 00:17:13,265 --> 00:17:15,567 And they found a broken earring. 393 00:17:15,601 --> 00:17:17,803 All of that we found out belonged to Donna Davis, 394 00:17:17,836 --> 00:17:19,405 so we know she was in that van. 395 00:17:19,438 --> 00:17:21,807 * * 396 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,142 [sirens wailing] 397 00:17:23,175 --> 00:17:24,810 - With no sign of Andre or Donna, 398 00:17:24,843 --> 00:17:27,946 all units are called in for a full-scale sweep 399 00:17:28,047 --> 00:17:32,184 of the 132-acre Canarsie Park. 400 00:17:32,217 --> 00:17:34,553 - We used all our resources. We had helicopters up. 401 00:17:34,586 --> 00:17:37,222 They needed harbor, 'cause of what is on the water. 402 00:17:37,256 --> 00:17:40,059 They needed scuba. We had emergency services 403 00:17:40,092 --> 00:17:44,096 on the ground looking for her. 404 00:17:44,129 --> 00:17:45,764 Unfortunately, we couldn't find Donna, 405 00:17:45,798 --> 00:17:48,133 and she was still missing. 406 00:17:48,167 --> 00:17:49,835 - Sick with worry, Donna's parents 407 00:17:49,868 --> 00:17:52,071 are begging for her return. 408 00:17:52,071 --> 00:17:54,606 - Just release her and don't hurt her. 409 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,508 I'm appealing to the better side of him, 410 00:17:56,542 --> 00:17:58,711 and I hope he will think about it 411 00:17:58,744 --> 00:18:00,479 and just let her go. 412 00:18:00,512 --> 00:18:03,082 - Concerns over Donna's safety are escalating. 413 00:18:03,115 --> 00:18:04,516 * * 414 00:18:04,550 --> 00:18:06,752 Fears are compounded when Daisy Davis 415 00:18:06,785 --> 00:18:08,420 receives a shocking letter. 416 00:18:08,454 --> 00:18:12,091 - Andre sends Daisy Davis this three-page letter 417 00:18:12,124 --> 00:18:13,859 telling her how she screwed up 418 00:18:13,892 --> 00:18:16,428 the relationship between the both of them. 419 00:18:16,462 --> 00:18:18,497 - It looked like it could be blood that was on the envelope. 420 00:18:18,530 --> 00:18:19,498 * * 421 00:18:19,531 --> 00:18:22,167 The letter said, "You'll never see her again." 422 00:18:33,278 --> 00:18:35,614 [dramatic music] 423 00:18:35,881 --> 00:18:41,053 * * 424 00:18:41,053 --> 00:18:43,856 - It's been two days since Patricia Neverson was murdered 425 00:18:43,889 --> 00:18:46,358 and Donna Davis went missing. 426 00:18:46,392 --> 00:18:50,195 Investigators get a major development in the case. 427 00:18:50,229 --> 00:18:51,864 - At 10:00 in the morning on July 10th 428 00:18:51,897 --> 00:18:54,433 we get a phone call in the squad from Daisy Davis, 429 00:18:54,466 --> 00:18:56,835 Donna Davis' mother, who said that she received 430 00:18:56,869 --> 00:18:59,071 a letter in the mail that was addressed from Andre. 431 00:18:59,071 --> 00:19:02,041 And it looked like it could be blood that was on the envelope. 432 00:19:02,074 --> 00:19:05,244 - It's a three-page letter telling her how she screwed up 433 00:19:05,277 --> 00:19:08,247 the relationship between the both of them. 434 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:09,581 - "It's your fault that you got involved in 435 00:19:09,615 --> 00:19:11,383 your daughter's relationship. 436 00:19:11,417 --> 00:19:12,851 You'll never see her again." 437 00:19:12,885 --> 00:19:19,158 * * 438 00:19:19,191 --> 00:19:21,727 - Another 24 hours passes. 439 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,696 And on the morning of July 11th 440 00:19:23,729 --> 00:19:26,298 police are notified of a tragic discovery. 441 00:19:26,331 --> 00:19:28,200 * * 442 00:19:28,233 --> 00:19:31,603 - We have reports of a dog walker had found a body. 443 00:19:31,637 --> 00:19:34,106 * * 444 00:19:34,139 --> 00:19:36,542 - They found a female probably in her early 30s, 445 00:19:36,575 --> 00:19:40,746 African American, inside this, like, vacant lot. 446 00:19:40,779 --> 00:19:43,615 So when the detectives go to the scene, 447 00:19:43,649 --> 00:19:45,050 they realize it is Donna Davis. 448 00:19:45,084 --> 00:19:48,187 * * 449 00:19:48,220 --> 00:19:51,590 - She has been shot point blank in the back of the head. 450 00:19:51,623 --> 00:19:58,063 * * 451 00:19:58,097 --> 00:19:59,832 Detectives now have to deliver 452 00:19:59,865 --> 00:20:01,667 the terrible news to Donna's parents. 453 00:20:01,700 --> 00:20:08,607 * * 454 00:21:20,779 --> 00:21:24,583 - The coroner determines Donna was murdered two days earlier, 455 00:21:24,616 --> 00:21:27,720 the same night as Patricia Neverson. 456 00:21:27,753 --> 00:21:29,521 - If you think about his motive, 457 00:21:29,555 --> 00:21:31,790 after he killed his sister, he had no remorse. 458 00:21:31,824 --> 00:21:33,959 He went right back for Donna, and he had a plan. 459 00:21:33,992 --> 00:21:35,894 He already had the letter ready to go. 460 00:21:35,928 --> 00:21:38,630 Not a crime of passion. This was his own ego 461 00:21:38,664 --> 00:21:40,833 that females could do this to him, 462 00:21:40,866 --> 00:21:43,669 make him look foolish, steal his money for his house, 463 00:21:43,702 --> 00:21:47,106 and then break up with him. Who were they to do that? 464 00:21:47,106 --> 00:21:50,976 He was a monster. 465 00:21:51,010 --> 00:21:53,112 - Now with two murders on their hands, 466 00:21:53,112 --> 00:21:57,883 the NYPD ramps up alerts to the public and other agencies. 467 00:21:59,651 --> 00:22:01,487 - So we have wanted posters put up. 468 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,456 Notify Interpol. Notify the Caribbean. 469 00:22:04,490 --> 00:22:07,292 Notify the airport. Notify the train stations. 470 00:22:07,326 --> 00:22:11,663 We tried to do the biggest drag that we possibly can. 471 00:22:11,697 --> 00:22:13,198 - As a result of all the warnings, 472 00:22:13,232 --> 00:22:15,968 panicked calls start coming in from many of the women 473 00:22:16,068 --> 00:22:18,237 that Andre had relationships with. 474 00:22:18,270 --> 00:22:20,939 - He had many partners. 475 00:22:20,973 --> 00:22:23,509 He had children with most of those partners. 476 00:22:23,542 --> 00:22:27,713 And many of those women were definitely afraid of him. 477 00:22:27,746 --> 00:22:29,548 - Andre had just killed his sister. 478 00:22:29,581 --> 00:22:31,550 Now we find out he killed his girlfriend. 479 00:22:31,583 --> 00:22:33,385 We are thinking anybody he has a problem with, 480 00:22:33,419 --> 00:22:34,753 anybody he has a beef with, 481 00:22:34,787 --> 00:22:38,357 he may go look to take revenge on these people. 482 00:22:38,390 --> 00:22:40,959 - Margraf has patrol teams on 24-hour watch 483 00:22:40,993 --> 00:22:43,095 at the homes of any known associates 484 00:22:43,128 --> 00:22:44,763 not only to protect them 485 00:22:44,797 --> 00:22:48,500 but hoping that Andre might show up demanding help. 486 00:22:48,534 --> 00:22:51,103 - He could con his way into any woman's house. 487 00:22:51,103 --> 00:22:53,439 He could be hiding anywhere. 488 00:22:53,472 --> 00:22:57,910 * * 489 00:22:57,943 --> 00:23:00,112 - Detectives know, the more time passes, 490 00:23:00,145 --> 00:23:02,414 the further Andre could be from New York City 491 00:23:02,448 --> 00:23:04,483 and out of the reach from local police. 492 00:23:04,516 --> 00:23:07,252 So the NYPD activate a powerful agency, 493 00:23:07,286 --> 00:23:10,356 the New York/New Jersey Regional Fugitive Task Force, 494 00:23:10,389 --> 00:23:12,324 which includes the U.S. Marshal service. 495 00:23:12,358 --> 00:23:14,727 * * 496 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,929 - What struck me about this case is that everyone 497 00:23:16,962 --> 00:23:18,764 of his friends says, "You're gonna have a hard time 498 00:23:18,797 --> 00:23:21,400 "catching him, because he's very smart. 499 00:23:21,433 --> 00:23:24,370 And he knows how to stay off the radar." 500 00:23:24,403 --> 00:23:26,338 - Andre had been deported after serving 501 00:23:26,372 --> 00:23:29,641 five years in prison but had illegally slipped back 502 00:23:29,675 --> 00:23:34,780 into the U.S. using a fake Jamaican passport. 503 00:23:34,813 --> 00:23:36,515 - In the beginning, the concentration 504 00:23:36,548 --> 00:23:39,151 was a tri-state area knowing that he could be 505 00:23:39,184 --> 00:23:41,754 going international because of the Jamaican passport. 506 00:23:41,787 --> 00:23:43,756 * * 507 00:23:43,789 --> 00:23:45,657 - But in order to go anywhere, 508 00:23:45,691 --> 00:23:49,261 law enforcement knows he'd need money and help. 509 00:23:49,294 --> 00:23:51,597 - And we went and interviewed a lot of friends. 510 00:23:51,630 --> 00:23:53,966 And we informed everybody 511 00:23:53,999 --> 00:23:56,402 since he was wanted federally now 512 00:23:56,435 --> 00:23:58,504 about making false statements to a federal officer 513 00:23:58,537 --> 00:23:59,938 and harboring a fugitive, 514 00:24:00,039 --> 00:24:03,042 they're different than regular New York State laws. 515 00:24:03,042 --> 00:24:05,678 And we made everybody sign acknowledgements 516 00:24:05,711 --> 00:24:09,314 of what that meant. 517 00:24:09,348 --> 00:24:12,051 - Feeling pressured by the NYPD and the U.S. Marshals, 518 00:24:12,084 --> 00:24:16,288 Andre's close friend Nadine fesses up. 519 00:24:16,321 --> 00:24:17,790 - She says she met up with 520 00:24:17,823 --> 00:24:20,125 Andre the day after the homicide. 521 00:24:20,159 --> 00:24:24,196 He called her and said, "Can you meet me at Burger King?" 522 00:24:24,229 --> 00:24:26,165 He gets in her car. 523 00:24:26,198 --> 00:24:27,966 He said he needs money. 524 00:24:28,067 --> 00:24:30,169 She gave him like $30 or something. 525 00:24:30,202 --> 00:24:31,904 He goes, "I think I'm gonna go check in, 526 00:24:31,937 --> 00:24:33,739 and I'm not gonna check out." 527 00:24:33,772 --> 00:24:35,207 We're thinking, "I'm gonna check into a hotel, 528 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,076 and I'm not gonna check out" means he's gonna get 529 00:24:37,109 --> 00:24:39,211 a hotel room somewhere and kill himself. 530 00:24:39,244 --> 00:24:42,381 We checked numerous hotels in the area. 531 00:24:42,414 --> 00:24:45,951 And we couldn't find him. 532 00:24:45,984 --> 00:24:48,087 - The task force is frustrated, 533 00:24:48,087 --> 00:24:52,424 but then a lead comes in from an unexpected source. 534 00:24:52,458 --> 00:24:53,826 - FedEx called us and said, 535 00:24:53,859 --> 00:24:55,461 "Are you looking for Andre Neverson?" 536 00:24:55,494 --> 00:24:56,562 And we said, "Hell, yeah." 537 00:24:56,595 --> 00:24:58,797 * * 538 00:24:58,831 --> 00:25:00,666 - Coming up... - That would be a red flag. 539 00:25:00,699 --> 00:25:03,202 But if nobody knows his new name, 540 00:25:03,235 --> 00:25:05,170 he could walk in plain day. 541 00:25:05,204 --> 00:25:06,572 - We got a call from a man 542 00:25:06,605 --> 00:25:09,575 that said Andre Neverson is in his house. 543 00:25:18,150 --> 00:25:20,786 [dramatic music] 544 00:25:21,053 --> 00:25:25,491 * * 545 00:25:25,524 --> 00:25:27,926 - The New York and New Jersey Fugitive Task Force 546 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,496 have been after alleged killer Andre Neverson for weeks 547 00:25:30,529 --> 00:25:33,899 with almost nothing to show for it. 548 00:25:33,932 --> 00:25:37,236 And when a call comes in from of all places, Federal Express, 549 00:25:37,269 --> 00:25:39,938 they may just have the break in the case they have long needed. 550 00:25:39,972 --> 00:25:41,940 * * 551 00:25:41,974 --> 00:25:45,744 - During the investigation, FedEx security contacted Pete. 552 00:25:45,778 --> 00:25:51,150 They had intercepted a package from Andre to his son. 553 00:25:51,183 --> 00:25:52,751 * * 554 00:25:52,785 --> 00:25:56,255 It was a mislabeled package, so they had to open it. 555 00:25:56,288 --> 00:25:58,757 - When they opened it up, they found it was a computer 556 00:25:58,791 --> 00:26:01,493 that belonged to Andre Neverson. 557 00:26:01,527 --> 00:26:03,162 We had so much press out there. 558 00:26:03,195 --> 00:26:05,164 We had his picture on every newspaper, 559 00:26:05,197 --> 00:26:06,899 every news channel. 560 00:26:06,932 --> 00:26:08,267 FedEx knew we were looking for him, 561 00:26:08,300 --> 00:26:10,569 and they gave us the computer. 562 00:26:10,602 --> 00:26:13,105 - On that laptop was a picture of Andre 563 00:26:13,138 --> 00:26:15,040 with a fake wig on 564 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:19,111 with dreadlocks and a thick moustache. 565 00:26:19,144 --> 00:26:21,180 He was trying to change his appearance. 566 00:26:23,515 --> 00:26:25,751 - This plan was thought out, you know? 567 00:26:25,784 --> 00:26:28,287 And if everybody is looking for Andre Neverson, 568 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,389 a bodybuilder who's bald, 569 00:26:30,422 --> 00:26:34,126 if he has a dread wig you'll look right past him. 570 00:26:34,159 --> 00:26:35,227 * * 571 00:26:35,260 --> 00:26:39,298 - Andre was someone who was adept at using the tools 572 00:26:39,331 --> 00:26:43,068 of someone who wanted to remain undetected, 573 00:26:43,102 --> 00:26:45,871 fake passports, aliases. 574 00:26:45,904 --> 00:26:47,506 - He had fake names in the past. 575 00:26:47,539 --> 00:26:48,607 Being e's illegally in the country, 576 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,142 he couldn't use Andre Neverson. 577 00:26:50,175 --> 00:26:53,679 But there were numerous aliases we were looking into. 578 00:26:53,712 --> 00:26:56,315 - He was committed to remaining underground, 579 00:26:56,348 --> 00:26:59,318 and he knew how to do that. 580 00:26:59,351 --> 00:27:01,820 - Smart guy, very savvy when it came to computers, 581 00:27:01,854 --> 00:27:03,889 how to get different paperwork. 582 00:27:03,922 --> 00:27:05,924 He know phone work, 583 00:27:06,025 --> 00:27:08,327 how to keep changing phones and how to change his names 584 00:27:08,360 --> 00:27:10,562 and getting other birth certificates and passports. 585 00:27:14,199 --> 00:27:16,669 - But while Andre was upping his game of deception 586 00:27:16,702 --> 00:27:19,038 and disguise, investigators were busy 587 00:27:19,038 --> 00:27:21,840 bumping his case up to the absolute highest level. 588 00:27:23,042 --> 00:27:24,710 - We were able to get Andre 589 00:27:24,743 --> 00:27:28,347 on the top 15 most wanted list by U.S. Marshals. 590 00:27:28,380 --> 00:27:31,250 - That brings a lot more resources from the marshals 591 00:27:31,283 --> 00:27:34,486 and a lot more reward money as well. 592 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,290 - Every law enforcement agency from New York to California 593 00:27:38,323 --> 00:27:40,893 is now looking for him. 594 00:27:40,926 --> 00:27:42,928 - And being on America's most wanted list 595 00:27:42,961 --> 00:27:44,596 gained attention from 596 00:27:44,630 --> 00:27:48,334 America's most watched TV shows. 597 00:27:48,367 --> 00:27:50,536 - At the time, "America's Most Wanted" 598 00:27:50,569 --> 00:27:53,238 was probably the largest venue 599 00:27:53,272 --> 00:27:58,577 in TV to profile somebody like Andre Neverson, 600 00:27:58,610 --> 00:28:02,748 millions of people watching "America's Most Wanted." 601 00:28:02,781 --> 00:28:05,517 - We had him on so many times. 602 00:28:05,551 --> 00:28:08,587 When it would air, we would go to the 71 precinct 603 00:28:08,620 --> 00:28:11,023 and wait and watch the show. 604 00:28:11,023 --> 00:28:12,925 We would give, you know, the operators 605 00:28:13,025 --> 00:28:15,327 information that the public didn't have. 606 00:28:15,361 --> 00:28:18,364 So we know what's credible and what's not. 607 00:28:18,397 --> 00:28:23,035 - We got 100 leads on Andre all over the country. 608 00:28:23,035 --> 00:28:25,070 I personally went to Buffalo. We had a really good tip 609 00:28:25,104 --> 00:28:26,839 from somebody who said they knew Andre. 610 00:28:26,872 --> 00:28:28,574 They did time in prison with Andre. 611 00:28:28,607 --> 00:28:30,909 That turned out to be negative. 612 00:28:30,943 --> 00:28:32,544 I went to Georgia, 613 00:28:32,578 --> 00:28:36,382 North Carolina, South Carolina. 614 00:28:36,415 --> 00:28:38,150 - Every time we got a lead, 615 00:28:38,183 --> 00:28:42,621 it kind of branched out further and further. 616 00:28:42,654 --> 00:28:44,757 We arrested a lot of people. 617 00:28:44,790 --> 00:28:46,258 One case in Brooklyn, 618 00:28:46,291 --> 00:28:48,160 we had a warrant for a guy. We delved information. 619 00:28:48,193 --> 00:28:49,428 He was supposed to be helping Andre. 620 00:28:49,461 --> 00:28:51,730 He was in the drug dealing business. 621 00:28:51,764 --> 00:28:55,267 We ended up getting the man with two kilos of cocaine 622 00:28:55,300 --> 00:28:57,736 and various drugs and money all over the house. 623 00:28:57,770 --> 00:28:59,905 And he had absolutely nothing to do with Andre. 624 00:29:00,005 --> 00:29:02,074 It was great to clean up New York City, 625 00:29:02,107 --> 00:29:05,577 but at the same time, it wasn't getting us closer to Andre. 626 00:29:05,611 --> 00:29:07,012 * * 627 00:29:07,012 --> 00:29:08,447 - From the beginning of the investigation, 628 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,015 police believe that Andre had 629 00:29:10,049 --> 00:29:12,084 a network of girlfriends who might help him. 630 00:29:12,117 --> 00:29:14,286 And on top of their list to keep an eye on, 631 00:29:14,319 --> 00:29:17,289 a woman named Lauren, who Andre shared a child with. 632 00:29:17,322 --> 00:29:19,391 * * 633 00:29:19,425 --> 00:29:22,294 - So we watch her house 24 hours a day 634 00:29:22,327 --> 00:29:25,030 to see if Andre would come back to see her. 635 00:29:25,030 --> 00:29:26,865 - Andre never shows at the house, 636 00:29:26,899 --> 00:29:30,369 but he did know where Lauren worked. 637 00:29:30,402 --> 00:29:32,771 - She worked at Methodist Hospital in Brooklyn. 638 00:29:32,805 --> 00:29:34,273 She was a nurse. 639 00:29:34,306 --> 00:29:37,609 Lauren walked to her car one day from the hospital. 640 00:29:37,643 --> 00:29:38,610 [horn honks] 641 00:29:38,644 --> 00:29:40,145 * * 642 00:29:40,179 --> 00:29:41,847 She gets in her car, and there's a plastic bag 643 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,216 on the mirror of her car. 644 00:29:44,249 --> 00:29:46,618 And inside the bag is a portable radio. 645 00:29:46,652 --> 00:29:48,620 * * 646 00:29:48,654 --> 00:29:51,357 She gets it. 647 00:29:51,390 --> 00:29:56,161 It's a note says, "Keep this on." 648 00:29:56,195 --> 00:29:58,397 She goes back in the hospital now. 649 00:29:58,430 --> 00:30:01,166 Tells the hospital police. Hospital police call us. 650 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,168 [sirens wailing] 651 00:30:03,202 --> 00:30:05,170 - After searching the hospital and area, 652 00:30:05,204 --> 00:30:06,805 detectives get their hands on 653 00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:09,375 the hospital surveillance tapes. 654 00:30:09,408 --> 00:30:11,944 - We have a shot of Andre in the back of the waiting 655 00:30:11,977 --> 00:30:13,178 area of the hospital. 656 00:30:13,212 --> 00:30:14,213 Like, you could barely see him. 657 00:30:14,246 --> 00:30:16,015 It looked like he was all the way in the corner 658 00:30:16,048 --> 00:30:17,516 went just outside of camera range. 659 00:30:17,549 --> 00:30:18,684 When she would go out, 660 00:30:18,717 --> 00:30:21,487 she'd have to pass where he was sitting to go outside. 661 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,356 And I'm sure once she went back in the hospital, 662 00:30:24,390 --> 00:30:28,293 he probably saw that and just disappeared at that point. 663 00:30:28,327 --> 00:30:31,363 - Our guys missed him by minutes. 664 00:30:31,397 --> 00:30:33,932 But the fact that he left a two-way radio 665 00:30:33,966 --> 00:30:36,335 meant he had to be in range. 666 00:30:36,368 --> 00:30:37,703 - We have our search teams out. 667 00:30:37,736 --> 00:30:39,271 We have people canvassing. 668 00:30:39,304 --> 00:30:41,340 [sirens wailing] 669 00:30:41,373 --> 00:30:43,709 - I wanted to catch him really bad, 670 00:30:43,742 --> 00:30:47,046 because you want justice for the families. 671 00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:48,414 You're into every case you get, 672 00:30:48,447 --> 00:30:51,050 murders, rapists, but there's some that just stick to you, 673 00:30:51,083 --> 00:30:53,552 and I really wanted to catch this guy. 674 00:30:53,585 --> 00:31:00,893 * * 675 00:31:00,926 --> 00:31:02,561 - But two more months pass, 676 00:31:02,594 --> 00:31:06,165 and things had gotten as quiet as could be, 677 00:31:06,198 --> 00:31:09,735 until a dramatic new sighting. 678 00:31:09,768 --> 00:31:11,303 - We got a call from a man 679 00:31:11,337 --> 00:31:13,939 that said Andre Neverson is in his house. 680 00:31:13,972 --> 00:31:16,342 - He was, in my opinion, getting desperate. 681 00:31:26,219 --> 00:31:28,688 [dramatic music] 682 00:31:28,955 --> 00:31:32,258 * * 683 00:31:32,292 --> 00:31:34,260 - It's been two months since Andre Neverson 684 00:31:34,294 --> 00:31:36,396 was caught on video trying to connect with the mother 685 00:31:36,429 --> 00:31:38,398 of one of his children, a woman named Lauren. 686 00:31:38,431 --> 00:31:40,567 * * 687 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,136 Tips have gone cold with no new leads 688 00:31:43,169 --> 00:31:45,505 and tons of other cases to cover. 689 00:31:45,538 --> 00:31:47,207 Police have scaled back surveillance 690 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,542 on all of Andre's girlfriend's homes. 691 00:31:49,576 --> 00:31:52,278 And just then Andre Neverson saw an opening 692 00:31:52,312 --> 00:31:55,448 at Lauren's in Flatlands, Brooklyn. 693 00:31:55,482 --> 00:31:58,118 * * 694 00:31:58,118 --> 00:32:02,288 - We get a call that Andre jumped into a window 695 00:32:02,322 --> 00:32:04,424 and wanted to see his daughter. 696 00:32:04,457 --> 00:32:06,126 While he was looking for his daughter, 697 00:32:06,159 --> 00:32:08,595 her brother overheard the conversation. 698 00:32:08,628 --> 00:32:10,063 He walked into the room. 699 00:32:10,063 --> 00:32:12,298 He saw Andre had a gun. 700 00:32:12,332 --> 00:32:14,067 Her brother said he had no beef with him. 701 00:32:14,067 --> 00:32:16,870 The brother walked away and called 911. 702 00:32:16,903 --> 00:32:18,605 Cop cars flew there immediately. 703 00:32:18,638 --> 00:32:20,840 [sirens wailing] 704 00:32:20,874 --> 00:32:22,475 - Andre's already killed twice 705 00:32:22,509 --> 00:32:24,477 and has been convicted of attempted murder. 706 00:32:24,511 --> 00:32:27,247 They want to catch him before he can kill again. 707 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,815 They approach the door cautiously. 708 00:32:28,848 --> 00:32:34,621 * * 709 00:32:34,654 --> 00:32:36,589 [door creaking] 710 00:32:36,623 --> 00:32:39,359 Lauren opens the door 711 00:32:39,392 --> 00:32:43,630 and tells them Andre had left just minutes before. 712 00:32:43,663 --> 00:32:45,799 - And you know what? The chase was on again... 713 00:32:45,832 --> 00:32:47,534 * * 714 00:32:47,567 --> 00:32:52,639 Cars, detectives, aviation, all of this. 715 00:32:52,672 --> 00:32:54,808 - We have 25, 30 guys 716 00:32:54,841 --> 00:32:57,510 lock down the area and do a grid search for Andre. 717 00:32:57,544 --> 00:33:00,447 [sirens wailing] 718 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:01,648 [dog barking] 719 00:33:01,681 --> 00:33:03,283 * * 720 00:33:03,316 --> 00:33:06,119 - Just a little too late. 721 00:33:06,152 --> 00:33:07,387 We needed another five minutes, 722 00:33:07,420 --> 00:33:08,555 and then we would've been there. 723 00:33:08,588 --> 00:33:11,524 We would have been able to get him. 724 00:33:11,558 --> 00:33:13,360 * * 725 00:33:13,393 --> 00:33:15,495 - For the NYPD it's beginning to feel like 726 00:33:15,528 --> 00:33:18,598 "Catch Me If You Can," but to U.S. Marshal Manny Puri, 727 00:33:18,631 --> 00:33:21,668 Andre is a fugitive with a major flaw. 728 00:33:21,701 --> 00:33:22,936 * * 729 00:33:22,969 --> 00:33:25,071 - So to be a successful fugitive 730 00:33:25,105 --> 00:33:27,140 you have to cut off everything you know 731 00:33:27,173 --> 00:33:28,675 and everybody you know. 732 00:33:28,708 --> 00:33:32,812 And I think Andre was having a tough time doing that. 733 00:33:32,846 --> 00:33:37,417 He was at times, in my opinion, getting desperate. 734 00:33:37,450 --> 00:33:40,520 - On a frigid January morning, Andre's father, 735 00:33:40,553 --> 00:33:44,657 Denzil Humphrey, learns just how desperate he is. 736 00:33:44,691 --> 00:33:47,794 - After the incident with the ex-girlfriend, 737 00:33:47,827 --> 00:33:49,229 a couple of months later, 738 00:33:49,262 --> 00:33:51,898 Andre writes a letter to his father. 739 00:33:51,931 --> 00:33:53,833 - I got a phone call from Denzil telling me 740 00:33:53,867 --> 00:33:56,870 he got a note under his door from Andre. 741 00:33:56,903 --> 00:33:59,305 It says, "Hey, Daddy, I'm cold and hungry 742 00:33:59,339 --> 00:34:02,842 riding the trains. I need help. Can you help me?" 743 00:34:02,876 --> 00:34:05,712 Once he says that, we have transit cops 744 00:34:05,745 --> 00:34:09,482 checking subways out, checking trains out. 745 00:34:09,516 --> 00:34:12,686 - While transit teams search the subways, 746 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,690 detectives turn a sharper focus on Denzil. 747 00:34:16,723 --> 00:34:19,559 - Andre was the father's pride bull. 748 00:34:19,592 --> 00:34:21,928 The family told me, "Watch Denzil. 749 00:34:21,961 --> 00:34:25,432 Guarantee somehow Denzil's helping him." 750 00:34:25,465 --> 00:34:27,300 - In my head and my heart, 751 00:34:27,334 --> 00:34:29,636 I think he was aiding, you know, my uncle. 752 00:34:29,669 --> 00:34:31,738 Because my uncle was sending letters directly to him. 753 00:34:31,771 --> 00:34:33,740 They weren't postmarked, which means that he was 754 00:34:33,773 --> 00:34:35,742 dropping them physically in the mail slot. 755 00:34:35,775 --> 00:34:38,611 'Cause my grandfather kind of, like, he had the attitude 756 00:34:38,645 --> 00:34:42,415 where I lost a daughter; I don't want to lose a son. 757 00:34:42,449 --> 00:34:43,950 - I had to break through the barrier with the father 758 00:34:43,983 --> 00:34:45,952 to get the father to tell me the truth. 759 00:34:45,985 --> 00:34:48,488 I believe he knew where Andre was; he just wouldn't tell me. 760 00:34:49,422 --> 00:34:51,291 - But police knew Andre had something that could 761 00:34:51,324 --> 00:34:54,761 help them most of all, a fake passport that 762 00:34:54,794 --> 00:34:57,097 the sister he murdered helped him secure 763 00:34:57,130 --> 00:34:59,466 to get back into the U.S. illegally. 764 00:34:59,499 --> 00:35:01,901 - We tried everything we could 765 00:35:01,935 --> 00:35:05,105 to find out the identity of the passport, 766 00:35:05,138 --> 00:35:06,506 because we had no idea 767 00:35:06,539 --> 00:35:09,542 what alias he was using at this time. 768 00:35:09,576 --> 00:35:11,778 So I think that's how he was able 769 00:35:11,811 --> 00:35:14,247 to stay one step ahead. 770 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,118 * * 771 00:35:18,151 --> 00:35:19,652 - One step ahead and further 772 00:35:19,686 --> 00:35:22,122 from even U.S. Marshal's reach. 773 00:35:22,155 --> 00:35:24,324 * * 774 00:35:24,357 --> 00:35:27,460 - An investigator would think 775 00:35:27,494 --> 00:35:29,696 that a person who has a fake passport 776 00:35:29,729 --> 00:35:31,197 would flee the country. 777 00:35:31,231 --> 00:35:32,499 Why are you gonna stay here? 778 00:35:32,532 --> 00:35:34,367 Everybody knows your name, and you're on TV, 779 00:35:34,401 --> 00:35:36,202 or you go someplace on-- 780 00:35:36,236 --> 00:35:38,071 and start a whole new life out there. 781 00:35:38,071 --> 00:35:40,306 - We were more concerned that he'd try to get home somehow 782 00:35:40,340 --> 00:35:44,511 back to Trinidad. 783 00:35:44,544 --> 00:35:46,312 - We had a lot of international tips, 784 00:35:46,346 --> 00:35:48,815 and anything in the Caribbean was of interest. 785 00:35:48,848 --> 00:35:52,218 So me and Pete wanted to go to Trinidad. 786 00:35:52,252 --> 00:35:53,820 * * 787 00:35:53,853 --> 00:35:55,522 - We go there. We meet the people 788 00:35:55,555 --> 00:35:57,357 in state department in Trinidad. 789 00:35:57,390 --> 00:35:59,392 But we hit a big roadblock 790 00:35:59,426 --> 00:36:01,061 when we speak to the police down there. 791 00:36:01,094 --> 00:36:02,228 The police tell us, 792 00:36:02,262 --> 00:36:05,832 "Andre Neverson's from a small town called Never Dirty." 793 00:36:05,865 --> 00:36:08,568 They said it's a very, very bad area, 794 00:36:08,601 --> 00:36:11,037 that even the police don't go there. 795 00:36:11,037 --> 00:36:12,439 - We were informed that we couldn't go there 796 00:36:12,472 --> 00:36:13,840 unless we went there with the army, 797 00:36:13,873 --> 00:36:18,845 basically a whole column of armed soldiers. 798 00:36:18,878 --> 00:36:21,381 So basically, it was out the window of us doing 799 00:36:21,414 --> 00:36:23,750 any knock and talks in these areas. 800 00:36:26,553 --> 00:36:29,255 - Margraf and Puri are forced to return to New York 801 00:36:29,289 --> 00:36:32,225 empty-handed. 802 00:36:32,258 --> 00:36:33,960 The case goes cold. 803 00:36:34,060 --> 00:36:36,730 Investigators feel like they're chasing a ghost. 804 00:36:36,763 --> 00:36:39,532 Andre Neverson once boasted he could outsmart the cops 805 00:36:39,566 --> 00:36:42,702 and never end up in cuffs. 806 00:36:42,736 --> 00:36:46,840 And as the years tick by, even our guys started to worry. 807 00:36:46,873 --> 00:36:48,875 He might get away with it. 808 00:36:48,908 --> 00:36:50,877 - This case as it lingered on 809 00:36:50,910 --> 00:36:52,712 and we got less, less leads, 810 00:36:52,746 --> 00:36:55,181 after a while people don't come forward anymore. 811 00:36:55,215 --> 00:36:56,649 He's out of sight, out of mind. 812 00:36:56,683 --> 00:37:00,887 * * 813 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,423 - So many years passed there was a fear that 814 00:37:03,456 --> 00:37:05,325 this was gonna become one of those cold cases 815 00:37:05,358 --> 00:37:07,894 that you never got to solve. 816 00:37:07,927 --> 00:37:09,662 And that was a nightmare 817 00:37:09,696 --> 00:37:11,431 'cause you didn't want this guy, 818 00:37:11,464 --> 00:37:13,633 cocky Andre, to beat us. 819 00:37:13,667 --> 00:37:18,138 * * 820 00:37:18,171 --> 00:37:19,673 - The lack of forward progress 821 00:37:19,706 --> 00:37:23,610 is even harder for the families of Andre's victims, 822 00:37:23,643 --> 00:37:27,080 Patricia Neverson and Donna Davis. 823 00:37:27,113 --> 00:37:30,183 - I knew for a fact that they definitely wouldn't catch him. 824 00:37:30,216 --> 00:37:32,152 I already put in my mind that 825 00:37:32,185 --> 00:37:34,421 he'd be gone for at least ten years. 826 00:37:34,454 --> 00:37:35,789 And then it turned to 12 827 00:37:35,822 --> 00:37:37,724 and then it turned to 14, I'm like, okay. 828 00:37:37,757 --> 00:37:41,161 It was like just a confirmation of what I already knew. 829 00:38:04,017 --> 00:38:07,520 - For 16 years, Andre had evaded capture. 830 00:38:09,489 --> 00:38:11,791 It's not until September 2018 831 00:38:11,825 --> 00:38:14,794 that the cops get Andre in their sights. 832 00:38:14,828 --> 00:38:16,529 - Andre was pulled over in Connecticut 833 00:38:16,563 --> 00:38:19,332 for reckless driving. 834 00:38:19,366 --> 00:38:21,701 Connecticut calls, "Hey, you still want Andre?" 835 00:38:21,735 --> 00:38:24,537 And we said, "Absolutely. Go find him." 836 00:38:24,571 --> 00:38:25,805 - We're thinking he's in Trinidad 837 00:38:25,839 --> 00:38:27,040 or thinking these other things, 838 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,408 but he's literally right here. 839 00:38:39,084 --> 00:38:41,687 [dramatic music] 840 00:38:41,954 --> 00:38:45,057 * * 841 00:38:45,090 --> 00:38:46,692 - By the fall of 2018 842 00:38:46,725 --> 00:38:48,660 fugitive killer Andre Neverson 843 00:38:48,694 --> 00:38:50,929 has been on the run for 16 years. 844 00:38:50,963 --> 00:38:53,165 But now this game cat and mouse 845 00:38:53,198 --> 00:38:56,201 was about to come to an end. 846 00:38:56,235 --> 00:38:58,671 - Labor Day weekend 2018, 847 00:38:58,704 --> 00:39:00,739 Andre was pulled over in Connecticut 848 00:39:00,773 --> 00:39:04,209 for reckless driving and brought to the station house. 849 00:39:04,243 --> 00:39:06,011 They fingerprint him, 850 00:39:06,011 --> 00:39:08,614 but before the fingerprints come back, 851 00:39:08,647 --> 00:39:11,850 they issue him a summons, and they let him out the door. 852 00:39:11,884 --> 00:39:15,454 * * 853 00:39:15,487 --> 00:39:17,189 - They never knew who they had. 854 00:39:17,222 --> 00:39:21,026 They didn't know they had one of America's most wanted. 855 00:39:21,026 --> 00:39:22,528 * * 856 00:39:22,561 --> 00:39:24,730 - Andre has given police a copy of his license 857 00:39:24,763 --> 00:39:27,900 with a fake name but his real address. 858 00:39:27,933 --> 00:39:30,903 - Apparently, Andre felt comfortable. 859 00:39:30,936 --> 00:39:33,605 He thought the alias he was using 860 00:39:33,639 --> 00:39:38,043 was free and clear, because they let him go. 861 00:39:38,043 --> 00:39:40,045 - And about an hour later, his prints came back. 862 00:39:40,045 --> 00:39:41,914 They called New York City police. 863 00:39:41,947 --> 00:39:43,615 They say, "Can you guys look for Andre Neverson?" 864 00:39:43,649 --> 00:39:46,385 Yeah, for double homicide. It's like, "Oh, sh--. 865 00:39:46,418 --> 00:39:47,886 We just had him in precinct an hour ago." 866 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:48,954 * * 867 00:39:49,054 --> 00:39:51,557 - Everybody got word that Andre's in Connecticut. 868 00:39:51,590 --> 00:39:54,059 The Connecticut marshals are doing their thing. 869 00:39:54,059 --> 00:39:55,494 They're getting eyes on. 870 00:39:55,527 --> 00:39:57,062 The New York marshals and the Jersey marshals 871 00:39:57,062 --> 00:39:59,665 are rushing up to get there to develop a plan. 872 00:39:59,698 --> 00:40:04,470 And lo and behold, Andre's doing work in the front yard. 873 00:40:04,503 --> 00:40:07,006 And they finally take him into custody. 874 00:40:07,039 --> 00:40:14,313 * * 875 00:40:28,894 --> 00:40:30,929 - They said that, you know, "Your uncle was caught." 876 00:40:30,963 --> 00:40:32,898 And I was like, "Huh?" 877 00:40:32,931 --> 00:40:34,733 And they said, "Your uncle was caught. 878 00:40:34,767 --> 00:40:37,336 And he was apprehended in Connecticut." 879 00:40:37,369 --> 00:40:39,972 And I said, "Well, how did that happen?" 880 00:40:40,005 --> 00:40:44,043 He wasn't caught in Wisconsin or California or Arizona. 881 00:40:44,076 --> 00:40:46,478 He was caught within the tri-state area. 882 00:40:46,512 --> 00:40:48,814 He didn't go far. 883 00:40:48,847 --> 00:40:50,549 - Never--I've been looking through my notes, 884 00:40:50,582 --> 00:40:52,851 nothing ever came up Connecticut. 885 00:40:52,885 --> 00:40:55,521 It's like a two-hour ride to Connecticut. It's crazy. 886 00:40:55,554 --> 00:40:58,057 So that hurts that he was this close 887 00:40:58,090 --> 00:41:01,427 and we just couldn't find him. 888 00:41:01,460 --> 00:41:05,064 * * 889 00:41:05,097 --> 00:41:07,166 The worst part is, the police found out that 890 00:41:07,199 --> 00:41:10,536 he had a 16-year-old daughter in Connecticut. 891 00:41:10,569 --> 00:41:13,339 SO pretty much he gets there, he meets a girl, 892 00:41:13,372 --> 00:41:14,907 they have a baby right away, 893 00:41:14,940 --> 00:41:19,078 and she's like 16 years old by the time Andre was arrested. 894 00:41:19,078 --> 00:41:22,915 And this little girl had no idea. 895 00:41:22,948 --> 00:41:26,085 - This is another family he just devasted. 896 00:41:26,118 --> 00:41:28,921 Now this daughter, she'll grow up 897 00:41:28,954 --> 00:41:31,590 with probably knowing that greatest dad in the world 898 00:41:31,623 --> 00:41:33,826 is actually a murderer. 899 00:41:33,859 --> 00:41:40,799 * * 900 00:41:42,935 --> 00:41:47,539 - Andre was tried in Brooklyn Supreme Court in 2021. 901 00:41:47,573 --> 00:41:50,809 He was found guilty of two counts of second-degree murder 902 00:41:50,843 --> 00:41:53,112 and criminal possession of a weapon. 903 00:41:53,112 --> 00:41:56,115 He was sentenced to 50 years in prison, 904 00:41:56,115 --> 00:41:59,118 a bittersweet justice in the end. 905 00:41:59,151 --> 00:42:01,320 - I would've like to have caught him like 15 years ago. 906 00:42:01,353 --> 00:42:03,455 But at the end of the day, yes, justice was served. 907 00:42:03,489 --> 00:42:06,525 I feel justice was served. Definitely. 908 00:42:06,558 --> 00:42:08,827 - Was justice served? 909 00:42:08,861 --> 00:42:11,864 Not for me. I think he spent 910 00:42:11,897 --> 00:42:14,133 way too much time 911 00:42:14,166 --> 00:42:16,402 outside living a life 912 00:42:16,435 --> 00:42:19,905 while his victims didn't. 913 00:42:19,938 --> 00:42:23,142 - That kind of haunted me for a long time. 914 00:42:23,175 --> 00:42:25,077 It was just--if you have children 915 00:42:25,110 --> 00:42:27,746 and you see what this individual, Andre, 916 00:42:27,780 --> 00:42:30,516 did to all his family members, it just-- 917 00:42:30,549 --> 00:42:32,718 it's something that just haunts you. 918 00:42:32,751 --> 00:42:35,354 Closure? I don't know what closure is, 919 00:42:35,387 --> 00:42:37,856 because these people have to live with that forever. 920 00:42:37,890 --> 00:42:40,726 Their loved ones are gone. 921 00:43:15,127 --> 00:43:16,362 - And justice was technically served, 922 00:43:16,395 --> 00:43:18,931 because he's gonna go to jail for basically the rest of 923 00:43:18,964 --> 00:43:23,068 his natural life, but that doesn't give me my mom back. 924 00:43:23,068 --> 00:43:26,805 Like, it's still a huge hunk of me that's missing, you know? 925 00:43:26,839 --> 00:43:30,209 He took away my protector. 926 00:43:30,242 --> 00:43:32,211 And he took away the person that-- 927 00:43:32,244 --> 00:43:34,213 that I felt like if life gave me a boo-boo 928 00:43:34,246 --> 00:43:36,215 would come and give me Band-Aid and tell me, 929 00:43:36,248 --> 00:43:37,583 you know, you could still do it. 930 00:43:37,616 --> 00:43:39,585 You can do that. 931 00:43:39,618 --> 00:43:41,820 Andre took everything from me.