1 00:00:07,607 --> 00:00:09,109 [dramatic music] 2 00:00:09,509 --> 00:00:11,745 [buzzer blares] 3 00:00:11,778 --> 00:00:14,247 - An inmate at Rikers Island jail makes 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,016 a call to the NYPD. 5 00:00:16,049 --> 00:00:18,284 - He said he had information in regards 6 00:00:18,318 --> 00:00:20,320 to a possible homicide that took place. 7 00:00:20,353 --> 00:00:23,490 * * 8 00:00:23,523 --> 00:00:25,225 - But the location of the crime scene-- 9 00:00:25,258 --> 00:00:29,329 that's just the first mystery in how this odd case unfolds. 10 00:00:29,362 --> 00:00:30,663 * * 11 00:00:30,697 --> 00:00:32,665 - It's a highly unusual situation that 12 00:00:32,699 --> 00:00:35,301 you would receive information about a homicide that 13 00:00:35,335 --> 00:00:37,437 occurred before you even discover the body. 14 00:00:37,470 --> 00:00:39,472 - It was urgent to find this victim 15 00:00:39,506 --> 00:00:40,940 as soon as possible. 16 00:00:40,974 --> 00:00:43,376 - Sending detectives to the canyons of Midtown, 17 00:00:43,410 --> 00:00:44,878 following the bread crumbs. 18 00:00:44,911 --> 00:00:47,947 - He told me that it was a 45-story building 19 00:00:47,981 --> 00:00:51,518 in Midtown Manhattan with a doorman and an ATM. 20 00:00:51,551 --> 00:00:53,586 - The victim was born and raised in France, 21 00:00:53,620 --> 00:00:55,055 earned a good living. 22 00:00:56,890 --> 00:00:59,092 - As the pieces of the story prove true, 23 00:00:59,125 --> 00:01:01,194 a tragic plot is revealed... 24 00:01:01,227 --> 00:01:03,396 - This was a brutal homicide. 25 00:01:03,430 --> 00:01:05,899 - How could he be murdered in his apartment 26 00:01:05,932 --> 00:01:08,168 and no one hear it? 27 00:01:08,201 --> 00:01:10,704 - That twists and turns in a race against time 28 00:01:10,737 --> 00:01:12,072 to find the killer. 29 00:01:12,105 --> 00:01:13,807 - We were desperate to find him 30 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,575 because we didn't want him to come back 31 00:01:15,608 --> 00:01:17,077 and kill that doorman. 32 00:01:17,110 --> 00:01:20,480 - The entire case hinges on one confidential informant 33 00:01:20,513 --> 00:01:22,082 who then goes rogue. 34 00:01:22,082 --> 00:01:23,516 - You're not undercover anymore. 35 00:01:23,550 --> 00:01:25,285 [sirens wailing] 36 00:01:25,318 --> 00:01:28,288 [dramatic music] 37 00:01:28,321 --> 00:01:35,195 * * 38 00:01:40,467 --> 00:01:42,268 [suspenseful music] 39 00:01:42,302 --> 00:01:44,938 - It's December 1999, 40 00:01:44,971 --> 00:01:46,606 and Times Square is preparing 41 00:01:46,639 --> 00:01:48,708 for the biggest New Year's Eve celebration of all time-- 42 00:01:48,742 --> 00:01:50,343 the millennium New Year. 43 00:01:50,377 --> 00:01:52,445 * * 44 00:01:52,479 --> 00:01:55,648 While everyone is on edge about the potential Y2K bug 45 00:01:55,682 --> 00:01:57,884 knocking out the world's computer infrastructure, 46 00:01:57,917 --> 00:02:01,154 here in New York, the city where murderers never sleep, 47 00:02:01,187 --> 00:02:03,890 one of the most upside-down NYPD cases 48 00:02:03,923 --> 00:02:05,325 is about to unfold. 49 00:02:05,358 --> 00:02:10,330 * * 50 00:02:12,098 --> 00:02:14,734 [chilling music] 51 00:02:14,768 --> 00:02:15,935 * * 52 00:02:15,969 --> 00:02:17,537 [dial tone buzzes] 53 00:02:17,570 --> 00:02:20,073 [siren whooping] 54 00:02:21,641 --> 00:02:23,143 - On December 20th, 55 00:02:23,176 --> 00:02:25,145 I was scheduled for a four-to-one tour, 56 00:02:25,178 --> 00:02:27,247 which is 4:00 in the afternoon to 1:00 in the morning. 57 00:02:28,381 --> 00:02:29,816 It was a rainy night. 58 00:02:29,849 --> 00:02:32,819 [thunder rumbles] [distant siren wailing] 59 00:02:32,852 --> 00:02:36,523 Around 8:00 at night, phone rang in the squad. 60 00:02:36,556 --> 00:02:39,325 [phone ringing] 61 00:02:39,359 --> 00:02:41,261 And there was a gentleman on the phone, 62 00:02:41,294 --> 00:02:43,963 and I asked him what was the nature of his phone call. 63 00:02:43,997 --> 00:02:45,899 He told me that he had information 64 00:02:45,932 --> 00:02:48,468 in regards to a possible homicide that took place. 65 00:02:48,501 --> 00:02:51,271 [dramatic music] 66 00:02:51,304 --> 00:02:54,574 He heard the victim was duct-taped 67 00:02:54,607 --> 00:02:57,210 and he was stabbed with a knife. 68 00:02:58,311 --> 00:03:00,046 Then he was left under a couch. 69 00:03:00,046 --> 00:03:02,382 * * 70 00:03:02,415 --> 00:03:03,950 And he believed that it happened 71 00:03:04,050 --> 00:03:06,786 a couple days before he called me. 72 00:03:06,820 --> 00:03:08,388 - So Artie said, 73 00:03:08,421 --> 00:03:09,889 "Well, why don't you come in and talk to me, 74 00:03:09,923 --> 00:03:11,458 and we'll see if we can iron some of this out." 75 00:03:11,491 --> 00:03:13,360 And he said, "Well, I can't come in and talk to you. 76 00:03:13,393 --> 00:03:15,195 I'm in Rikers Island." 77 00:03:15,228 --> 00:03:17,497 * * 78 00:03:17,530 --> 00:03:19,699 - Rikers Island in the Bronx contains 79 00:03:19,733 --> 00:03:21,801 New York City's largest jail 80 00:03:21,835 --> 00:03:24,471 and houses many of the city's most hardened criminals 81 00:03:24,504 --> 00:03:26,706 and con men. 82 00:03:26,740 --> 00:03:29,309 - As far as inmates calling me from Rikers Island, 83 00:03:29,342 --> 00:03:30,977 I couldn't say that ever happened before, 84 00:03:31,077 --> 00:03:33,246 but everything is taken seriously, 85 00:03:33,279 --> 00:03:34,981 so, you know, we were going with it. 86 00:03:36,349 --> 00:03:39,686 He told me it was a robbery that went bad, 87 00:03:39,719 --> 00:03:42,088 and they ended up killing the victim. 88 00:03:43,323 --> 00:03:45,125 The informant found this all out 89 00:03:45,158 --> 00:03:47,093 while listening to the phone calls 90 00:03:47,093 --> 00:03:50,130 of the other inmate at Rikers Island. 91 00:03:50,163 --> 00:03:52,732 He overheard all his conversations. 92 00:03:52,766 --> 00:03:56,102 It was kind of urgent to get as much detail as we can 93 00:03:56,102 --> 00:03:58,505 to start the search, but he wanted me 94 00:03:58,538 --> 00:04:00,874 to come to Rikers Island and talk to in person. 95 00:04:00,907 --> 00:04:02,742 - He said, "But don't come tonight. 96 00:04:02,776 --> 00:04:04,077 "It would be suspicious. 97 00:04:04,110 --> 00:04:06,179 "They'll expect that I'm talking to the cops. 98 00:04:06,212 --> 00:04:07,747 I don't want that. Come tomorrow." 99 00:04:09,783 --> 00:04:12,052 [suspenseful music] 100 00:04:12,085 --> 00:04:13,353 - So the next morning, 101 00:04:13,386 --> 00:04:15,221 detectives race to Rikers Island 102 00:04:15,255 --> 00:04:16,690 for a face-to-face meeting 103 00:04:16,723 --> 00:04:18,558 with the confidential informant. 104 00:04:18,591 --> 00:04:20,060 - Our informant believed 105 00:04:20,093 --> 00:04:22,562 the possible location of the homicide was 106 00:04:22,595 --> 00:04:25,565 in a 45-story building, 107 00:04:25,598 --> 00:04:28,601 and that the victim would be on the 42nd floor. 108 00:04:28,635 --> 00:04:30,704 And he hold me that there would be a balcony 109 00:04:30,737 --> 00:04:32,472 and that the door would be open. 110 00:04:32,505 --> 00:04:34,107 And it had a doorman, 111 00:04:34,140 --> 00:04:36,242 and there was an ATM around the corner. 112 00:04:36,276 --> 00:04:37,811 - The informant also added 113 00:04:37,844 --> 00:04:39,546 that the victim was a white male 114 00:04:39,579 --> 00:04:41,214 with a high-paying job, 115 00:04:41,247 --> 00:04:44,184 but the source was still holding back information. 116 00:04:44,217 --> 00:04:46,753 - The informant wouldn't tell the detectives 117 00:04:46,786 --> 00:04:48,688 who committed the crime. 118 00:04:48,722 --> 00:04:51,691 - Our guys quickly discover why: 119 00:04:51,725 --> 00:04:54,594 The informant is looking to make a deal. 120 00:04:54,627 --> 00:04:57,797 - He felt that it was like his bargaining chip. 121 00:04:57,831 --> 00:05:00,266 - He was charged with possession of a weapon, 122 00:05:00,300 --> 00:05:02,035 and he had prior felony convictions, 123 00:05:02,035 --> 00:05:04,404 so he was looking at some serious time, 124 00:05:04,437 --> 00:05:07,674 and he wanted a deal to get out of jail quickly. 125 00:05:08,708 --> 00:05:11,911 - But then he makes a mistake. 126 00:05:11,945 --> 00:05:14,280 - During the course of talking to Caddigan, 127 00:05:14,314 --> 00:05:17,250 the informant let slip the name of the inmate 128 00:05:17,283 --> 00:05:19,819 he was getting the information from. 129 00:05:19,853 --> 00:05:21,855 - The inmate's name was Paul Person. 130 00:05:23,256 --> 00:05:24,457 The informant told us that 131 00:05:24,491 --> 00:05:26,893 Paul Person was arrested on a gun charge 132 00:05:26,926 --> 00:05:29,662 a couple days earlier, and he needed bail money. 133 00:05:29,696 --> 00:05:33,066 So Paul Person contacted his girlfriend 134 00:05:33,066 --> 00:05:34,968 and a friend of his. 135 00:05:35,068 --> 00:05:37,070 He wanted them to go do a robbery 136 00:05:37,070 --> 00:05:38,972 for bail money to get him out. 137 00:05:39,072 --> 00:05:41,341 - The informant said that Paul had information 138 00:05:41,374 --> 00:05:42,709 about this rich white guy. 139 00:05:42,742 --> 00:05:44,878 He was gonna be taking money out of his account 140 00:05:44,911 --> 00:05:47,080 due to the Y2K crisis coming up 141 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,083 and was gonna store a large sum of cash in his apartment. 142 00:05:50,116 --> 00:05:52,452 [suspenseful music] 143 00:05:52,485 --> 00:05:54,421 - Many people are growing anxious that 144 00:05:54,454 --> 00:05:57,624 that the Y2K bug will erase their bank account balances 145 00:05:57,657 --> 00:06:00,860 at the stroke of midnight on January 1, 2000, 146 00:06:00,894 --> 00:06:03,530 and begin stashing their money at home. 147 00:06:04,731 --> 00:06:07,500 - So on the day that the robbery occurred, 148 00:06:07,534 --> 00:06:10,370 Paul Person told the informant that his girlfriend 149 00:06:10,403 --> 00:06:14,207 and his friend took the subway to 50th street 150 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:15,875 and then walked into the building 151 00:06:15,909 --> 00:06:17,677 where the crime happened. 152 00:06:17,711 --> 00:06:19,546 - With such a lengthy criminal background, 153 00:06:19,579 --> 00:06:21,047 the detectives have doubts 154 00:06:21,081 --> 00:06:22,949 about the informant's credibility, 155 00:06:23,049 --> 00:06:25,885 but they urgently need to check his story out. 156 00:06:25,919 --> 00:06:28,221 - In regards to finding out who the suspects were 157 00:06:28,254 --> 00:06:30,056 that actually committed the crime, 158 00:06:30,090 --> 00:06:31,391 it was important to us 159 00:06:31,424 --> 00:06:33,660 to find this victim as soon as possible. 160 00:06:35,061 --> 00:06:37,163 - Based on the clues given by the informant, 161 00:06:37,197 --> 00:06:39,199 the apartment building is most likely located 162 00:06:39,232 --> 00:06:41,735 in the adjacent precinct to the north of Caddigan's. 163 00:06:41,768 --> 00:06:44,337 He brings them in for help. 164 00:06:44,371 --> 00:06:46,072 - It's a highly unusual situation that 165 00:06:46,072 --> 00:06:49,676 you would receive information of a homicide that 166 00:06:49,709 --> 00:06:51,845 occurred before you even discover the body 167 00:06:51,878 --> 00:06:53,546 and the scene. 168 00:06:53,580 --> 00:06:55,648 - But Artie Caddigan from the South believed 169 00:06:55,682 --> 00:06:57,584 the guy had good information 170 00:06:57,617 --> 00:07:00,387 and that the body's in the apartment as we speak. 171 00:07:00,420 --> 00:07:01,888 [dramatic music] 172 00:07:01,921 --> 00:07:04,691 - So we went out canvassing buildings 173 00:07:04,724 --> 00:07:08,028 near a subway entrance 174 00:07:08,061 --> 00:07:10,697 at least 42 stories high. 175 00:07:10,730 --> 00:07:12,132 - But they have a problem: 176 00:07:12,165 --> 00:07:14,567 Midtown Manhattan is world-famous 177 00:07:14,601 --> 00:07:17,737 for its soaring buildings and skyscrapers. 178 00:07:17,771 --> 00:07:20,240 - There were about 80 to 100-- maybe more-- 179 00:07:20,273 --> 00:07:23,376 buildings that are higher than 40 stories. 180 00:07:23,410 --> 00:07:25,845 It's a needle in a haystack. 181 00:07:25,879 --> 00:07:28,915 We split up into teams, and a couple of us went north. 182 00:07:28,948 --> 00:07:31,384 A couple of us went south. 183 00:07:31,418 --> 00:07:33,053 - After hours of searching, 184 00:07:33,053 --> 00:07:35,121 Detective Caddigan begins to question 185 00:07:35,155 --> 00:07:36,823 his informant's information 186 00:07:36,856 --> 00:07:40,193 as they approached one of the few buildings left. 187 00:07:41,494 --> 00:07:43,963 - 235 West 48th Street was 188 00:07:44,064 --> 00:07:46,266 a very nice, exclusive building. 189 00:07:46,299 --> 00:07:50,170 You know, high-end-- doorman, concierge. 190 00:07:50,203 --> 00:07:52,205 They had balconies. 191 00:07:52,238 --> 00:07:54,974 - And there was an ATM in the building. 192 00:07:55,075 --> 00:07:57,210 - We asked the doorman if there was a resident 193 00:07:57,243 --> 00:07:59,212 on the 42nd floor that would fit 194 00:07:59,245 --> 00:08:01,147 the description of the victim. 195 00:08:01,181 --> 00:08:02,449 - He said he did, 196 00:08:02,482 --> 00:08:05,018 and he told us his name was Thierry Matheron. 197 00:08:06,019 --> 00:08:08,455 - This particular doorman-- right away he said, 198 00:08:08,488 --> 00:08:10,023 "We usually see him during the week. 199 00:08:10,056 --> 00:08:12,592 We haven't seen him. He hasn't been around." 200 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,261 - We were like, okay, 201 00:08:15,295 --> 00:08:17,831 there's a good chance this-- it was all checking out 202 00:08:17,864 --> 00:08:19,165 according to our informant. 203 00:08:19,199 --> 00:08:21,134 [suspenseful music] 204 00:08:21,167 --> 00:08:23,036 The super of the building escorted us up 205 00:08:23,036 --> 00:08:25,038 to the 42nd floor. 206 00:08:25,038 --> 00:08:26,439 When we got off the elevator, 207 00:08:26,473 --> 00:08:29,409 and you look down the hall to the apartment, 208 00:08:29,442 --> 00:08:32,345 you could see his mail was piled up. 209 00:08:32,379 --> 00:08:34,781 - As we opened the door... 210 00:08:34,814 --> 00:08:37,617 * * 211 00:08:37,650 --> 00:08:41,321 We could smell a deceased person. 212 00:08:41,354 --> 00:08:45,058 * * 213 00:08:45,058 --> 00:08:47,827 - We could see a body was laying in the living room. 214 00:08:47,861 --> 00:08:49,396 And then we also saw 215 00:08:49,429 --> 00:08:53,066 a blue couch has been turned upside down on top of him. 216 00:08:53,066 --> 00:08:55,735 He was duct-taped-- hands, feet, and his mouth. 217 00:08:57,570 --> 00:08:59,172 The informant had described 218 00:08:59,205 --> 00:09:01,174 how the balcony door was left ajar 219 00:09:01,207 --> 00:09:03,810 so that, as days went on, as the body started to smell, 220 00:09:03,843 --> 00:09:06,146 it would help to get rid of the smell. 221 00:09:07,514 --> 00:09:09,015 - The whole crime scene was 222 00:09:09,049 --> 00:09:11,017 just like the informant described it. 223 00:09:12,719 --> 00:09:15,689 [tense music] 224 00:09:15,722 --> 00:09:16,856 * * 225 00:09:16,890 --> 00:09:18,858 - He had been wearing glasses, 226 00:09:18,892 --> 00:09:21,661 and the glasses were crushed. [glass shatters] 227 00:09:21,695 --> 00:09:25,899 And, like, a kitchen knife protruding from his neck, 228 00:09:25,932 --> 00:09:28,902 and blood on his clothing, the floor. 229 00:09:28,935 --> 00:09:30,870 * * 230 00:09:30,904 --> 00:09:33,340 This was a brutal homicide. 231 00:09:33,373 --> 00:09:37,744 * * 232 00:09:37,777 --> 00:09:40,347 - There was no forced entry into the apartment. 233 00:09:40,380 --> 00:09:42,716 - But the subjects ransacked the apartment, 234 00:09:42,749 --> 00:09:46,052 looking for what they believed was a large sum of money. 235 00:09:46,086 --> 00:09:49,422 - We were unable to locate any wallet of Mr. Matheron, 236 00:09:49,456 --> 00:09:50,857 or credit cards. 237 00:09:52,292 --> 00:09:55,562 We didn't find any cash laying around. 238 00:09:55,595 --> 00:09:57,297 - Further evidence that the killing was 239 00:09:57,330 --> 00:09:59,432 a robbery for the Y2K cash, 240 00:09:59,466 --> 00:10:02,369 exactly as the informant described. 241 00:10:02,402 --> 00:10:05,572 But is the rest of his story true? 242 00:10:05,605 --> 00:10:07,273 - We have one name at this point: 243 00:10:07,307 --> 00:10:09,943 Paul Person, 244 00:10:09,976 --> 00:10:11,945 who is in jail. 245 00:10:11,978 --> 00:10:15,548 - The more urgent mystery-- who are Thierry's killers? 246 00:10:16,649 --> 00:10:19,686 - We needed to start finding out who the suspects were 247 00:10:19,719 --> 00:10:21,621 that actually committed the crime. 248 00:10:21,654 --> 00:10:23,923 - As the crime scene unit dusts for fingerprints, 249 00:10:23,957 --> 00:10:26,593 they come across a potential clue. 250 00:10:26,626 --> 00:10:28,862 - We find an answering machine 251 00:10:28,895 --> 00:10:31,264 blinking unheard messages. 252 00:10:31,297 --> 00:10:33,533 - Hello. You have a call from an inmate 253 00:10:33,566 --> 00:10:35,735 at a New York State correction facility. 254 00:10:35,769 --> 00:10:38,104 * * 255 00:10:38,138 --> 00:10:39,539 - Coming up... 256 00:10:39,572 --> 00:10:43,243 - We just wanted Mr. Person's own voice on tape. 257 00:10:43,276 --> 00:10:45,578 - It was an extremely dangerous situation. 258 00:10:45,612 --> 00:10:47,747 - He told him to go back and kill the doorman. 259 00:10:47,781 --> 00:10:49,916 * * 260 00:10:49,949 --> 00:10:50,984 [gun cocks] 261 00:10:51,017 --> 00:10:54,654 * * 262 00:10:58,657 --> 00:11:01,193 [dramatic music] 263 00:11:01,527 --> 00:11:06,065 * * 264 00:11:06,065 --> 00:11:08,167 - NYPD detectives are processing 265 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,202 the murder location of Thierry Matheron 266 00:11:10,235 --> 00:11:12,604 in his Midtown high-rise that they had been led to 267 00:11:12,638 --> 00:11:15,507 by a confidential informant locked up in Rikers Island, 268 00:11:15,541 --> 00:11:18,544 and they discover an intriguing piece of evidence. 269 00:11:19,611 --> 00:11:21,080 - During the search, 270 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,917 we find an answering machine blinking unheard messages. 271 00:11:24,950 --> 00:11:27,419 - Hello. You have a call from an inmate 272 00:11:27,453 --> 00:11:29,822 at a New York State correction facility. 273 00:11:29,855 --> 00:11:33,158 - Then the voicemail comes on from an inmate, 274 00:11:33,192 --> 00:11:35,594 asking Thierry to answer the phone. 275 00:11:35,627 --> 00:11:38,163 There was concern in his voice for his safety. 276 00:11:40,199 --> 00:11:42,468 - The upstate facility is not Rikers Island, 277 00:11:42,501 --> 00:11:45,904 so this mystery caller is no one we currently know of. 278 00:11:45,938 --> 00:11:50,976 It's a new odd-shaped piece in this odd-shaped puzzle. 279 00:11:51,944 --> 00:11:54,113 Our detectives know so little about the victim, 280 00:11:54,113 --> 00:11:55,914 but they come across a business card 281 00:11:55,948 --> 00:11:58,150 they hope will shed some light. 282 00:11:58,183 --> 00:11:59,752 - We were able to determine that 283 00:11:59,785 --> 00:12:02,187 he was an employee at Ernst & Young, 284 00:12:02,221 --> 00:12:03,922 born and raised in France, 285 00:12:03,956 --> 00:12:05,924 was in his mid-30s. 286 00:12:05,958 --> 00:12:08,427 Seemed like he earned a good living, 287 00:12:08,460 --> 00:12:11,497 was able to maintain a well-off lifestyle. 288 00:12:14,066 --> 00:12:16,101 [somber music] 289 00:12:16,135 --> 00:12:17,670 - December 22nd, 290 00:12:17,703 --> 00:12:19,405 in the wee hours of the morning, 291 00:12:19,438 --> 00:12:22,141 we got a call from Nydia Gaffey 292 00:12:22,174 --> 00:12:26,211 She told me Thierry had been found murdered. 293 00:12:27,546 --> 00:12:29,581 When I heard the word "murder," 294 00:12:29,615 --> 00:12:31,483 I think that just sent 295 00:12:31,517 --> 00:12:34,186 kind of a shock wave through me 296 00:12:34,219 --> 00:12:38,190 because Thierry was so well-liked in the office. 297 00:12:38,223 --> 00:12:40,559 - How could he be murdered in his apartment 298 00:12:40,592 --> 00:12:44,563 and no one hear it, no one came to his rescue? 299 00:12:46,198 --> 00:12:48,133 - He really had compassion for people-- 300 00:12:48,167 --> 00:12:49,968 genuine compassion. 301 00:12:50,002 --> 00:12:52,137 And he was always there to lend a helping hand 302 00:12:52,171 --> 00:12:54,373 without being asked. 303 00:12:54,406 --> 00:12:57,743 - I was sickened with emotion. 304 00:12:57,776 --> 00:13:00,746 It felt like someone had punched me in the chest. 305 00:13:00,779 --> 00:13:02,881 I couldn't even breathe. 306 00:13:02,915 --> 00:13:05,217 * * 307 00:13:05,250 --> 00:13:07,486 - All his relatives are over in France. 308 00:13:07,519 --> 00:13:10,389 So we contacted Mr. Matheron's boss 309 00:13:10,422 --> 00:13:12,424 if he would make an identification at the morgue 310 00:13:12,458 --> 00:13:14,660 to positively identify the body. 311 00:13:16,428 --> 00:13:18,163 - It was pretty difficult 312 00:13:18,197 --> 00:13:20,232 for all the reasons you can imagine-- 313 00:13:20,265 --> 00:13:23,402 was just beyond belief that 314 00:13:23,435 --> 00:13:25,437 anything like that could happen. 315 00:13:25,471 --> 00:13:28,307 [somber music] 316 00:13:28,340 --> 00:13:29,742 * * 317 00:13:29,775 --> 00:13:31,110 [siren wailing] 318 00:13:31,143 --> 00:13:33,145 - We were able to contact 319 00:13:33,178 --> 00:13:34,646 a local police department 320 00:13:34,680 --> 00:13:38,217 in the town that Thierry's dad lived in in France. 321 00:13:38,250 --> 00:13:40,986 They were sending over two police officers 322 00:13:41,086 --> 00:13:42,554 to make the notification. 323 00:13:42,588 --> 00:13:44,656 * * 324 00:13:44,690 --> 00:13:48,927 - I had to organize the return of the remains 325 00:13:48,961 --> 00:13:51,797 to his family back in France, 326 00:13:51,830 --> 00:13:53,832 and that was one of the most difficult things 327 00:13:53,866 --> 00:13:55,501 I had to deal with. 328 00:13:55,534 --> 00:14:00,272 * * 329 00:14:01,573 --> 00:14:03,042 - The following day, 330 00:14:03,042 --> 00:14:04,543 the medical examiner comes back 331 00:14:04,576 --> 00:14:06,378 with the autopsy results. 332 00:14:06,412 --> 00:14:08,514 [dramatic music] 333 00:14:08,547 --> 00:14:11,050 - The knife wound would not have killed him. 334 00:14:11,050 --> 00:14:13,719 It only went in an inch and a half or so. 335 00:14:13,752 --> 00:14:15,621 What did kill him was the suffocation 336 00:14:15,654 --> 00:14:19,291 from the duct tape around his mouth and nose. 337 00:14:19,324 --> 00:14:21,760 * * 338 00:14:21,794 --> 00:14:24,096 The crime scene unit dusted for prints, 339 00:14:24,129 --> 00:14:26,265 but they didn't come up with any hard evidence 340 00:14:26,298 --> 00:14:28,534 of any sort that was gonna connect the murder 341 00:14:28,567 --> 00:14:30,069 to a particular person. 342 00:14:33,072 --> 00:14:35,307 - After obtaining the medical examiner's report 343 00:14:35,341 --> 00:14:37,543 and finding no prints at the victim's apartment, 344 00:14:37,576 --> 00:14:39,078 detectives need to go back 345 00:14:39,078 --> 00:14:41,213 to where the investigation started-- 346 00:14:41,246 --> 00:14:43,115 the jail at Rikers Island-- 347 00:14:43,148 --> 00:14:45,117 to learn about their prime suspect, 348 00:14:45,150 --> 00:14:46,852 Paul Person. 349 00:14:48,153 --> 00:14:52,458 - We learned Paul Person and the informant became 350 00:14:52,491 --> 00:14:55,327 acquainted in Rikers Island. 351 00:14:55,361 --> 00:14:59,932 He was able to gain the trust of Paul Person. 352 00:15:00,032 --> 00:15:01,433 - The informant was having 353 00:15:01,467 --> 00:15:03,068 some pretty intimate conversations with him, 354 00:15:03,102 --> 00:15:04,570 and he could hear him speaking 355 00:15:04,603 --> 00:15:07,439 to the outstanding suspects on the phone. 356 00:15:07,473 --> 00:15:10,109 [dramatic music] 357 00:15:10,142 --> 00:15:11,777 - The informant tells our guys 358 00:15:11,810 --> 00:15:13,912 he didn't know the name of the male suspect, 359 00:15:13,946 --> 00:15:16,248 but Paul referred to him as "O," 360 00:15:16,281 --> 00:15:19,685 and that they had recently got into some trouble together. 361 00:15:20,753 --> 00:15:22,454 - On the 7th of December, 362 00:15:22,488 --> 00:15:26,191 Paul Person and O were on their way to commit a robbery, 363 00:15:26,225 --> 00:15:29,228 and they got stopped for a traffic infraction. 364 00:15:29,261 --> 00:15:31,196 * * 365 00:15:31,230 --> 00:15:33,899 Paul Person jumped out of the car and ran... 366 00:15:33,932 --> 00:15:35,567 * * 367 00:15:35,601 --> 00:15:38,070 And tossed a gun as he was running away. 368 00:15:38,070 --> 00:15:40,939 * * 369 00:15:40,973 --> 00:15:43,942 Cops caught him, and they recovered the gun as well. 370 00:15:45,444 --> 00:15:49,114 Both O and Person were arrested. 371 00:15:49,148 --> 00:15:51,083 - While O was recently released 372 00:15:51,083 --> 00:15:52,718 because he didn't have the gun on him, 373 00:15:52,751 --> 00:15:54,620 Paul Person told the informant 374 00:15:54,653 --> 00:15:57,389 that the gun was O's and not his. 375 00:15:57,423 --> 00:15:59,792 - He wanted to be out by Christmastime, 376 00:15:59,825 --> 00:16:02,795 so he was really angry at O 377 00:16:02,828 --> 00:16:05,297 because he felt like O put him in this position 378 00:16:05,330 --> 00:16:07,900 to begin with. 379 00:16:07,933 --> 00:16:10,803 - Paul said to O, "You got me involved in this. 380 00:16:10,836 --> 00:16:12,905 "Now take my girlfriend with you 381 00:16:12,938 --> 00:16:17,276 and go rob that rich white guy, and bail me out of jail." 382 00:16:17,309 --> 00:16:20,079 - But how did O know the victim? 383 00:16:20,112 --> 00:16:22,748 - Paul Person thought that O had some kind 384 00:16:22,781 --> 00:16:25,651 of sexual relationship with Mr. Matheron. 385 00:16:26,652 --> 00:16:29,421 O said, "I can't rob that guy. He knows who I am." 386 00:16:29,455 --> 00:16:32,091 And Paul said, "Well, then... 387 00:16:32,124 --> 00:16:33,325 kill him." 388 00:16:33,359 --> 00:16:34,793 * * 389 00:16:34,827 --> 00:16:37,763 - The informant states that O says to Paul, 390 00:16:37,796 --> 00:16:39,832 "I don't have a firearm to do this." 391 00:16:39,865 --> 00:16:41,667 And he says, "I'll get you a firearm. 392 00:16:41,700 --> 00:16:43,736 I'll get my girlfriend to get you a gun." 393 00:16:45,504 --> 00:16:49,942 - And then Person tells O, "If you don't do this, 394 00:16:49,975 --> 00:16:52,845 I will do something terrible to your family." 395 00:16:52,878 --> 00:16:56,582 O's seen him shoot people 396 00:16:56,615 --> 00:16:59,518 and was afraid that, even from behind bars, 397 00:16:59,551 --> 00:17:01,453 Person would be able to orchestrate 398 00:17:01,487 --> 00:17:04,023 some injury to his family. 399 00:17:04,056 --> 00:17:06,325 [dramatic music] 400 00:17:06,358 --> 00:17:07,860 - O is left with no choice 401 00:17:07,893 --> 00:17:10,529 but to go through with the plot, 402 00:17:10,562 --> 00:17:12,464 and Paul's girlfriend goes with him 403 00:17:12,498 --> 00:17:14,833 to ensure he goes through with it. 404 00:17:14,867 --> 00:17:21,907 * * 405 00:17:24,043 --> 00:17:27,046 [clock ticking] 406 00:17:28,580 --> 00:17:31,216 - Other than a few bills found in Thierry's wallet, 407 00:17:31,250 --> 00:17:34,520 the culprits are unable to locate any Y2K cash 408 00:17:34,553 --> 00:17:36,655 in the apartment. 409 00:17:36,689 --> 00:17:39,124 - So they found his bank cards, 410 00:17:39,158 --> 00:17:41,293 ask him for his pin number, 411 00:17:41,326 --> 00:17:42,695 then kill him. 412 00:17:42,728 --> 00:17:45,564 [tense music] 413 00:17:45,597 --> 00:17:46,899 * * 414 00:17:46,932 --> 00:17:50,202 - They attempted to use the victim's bank cards 415 00:17:50,235 --> 00:17:53,739 to withdraw money at an ATM, 416 00:17:53,772 --> 00:17:54,873 and it failed. 417 00:17:54,907 --> 00:17:59,144 * * 418 00:17:59,178 --> 00:18:01,246 - According to the confidential informant, 419 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,082 when Paul Person heard the robbery didn't 420 00:18:03,115 --> 00:18:05,751 produce any bail money, he was furious, 421 00:18:05,784 --> 00:18:09,021 and he gives O another chilling instruction. 422 00:18:09,054 --> 00:18:11,223 - Person instructed O to go back, 423 00:18:11,256 --> 00:18:14,360 burn down the apartment to cover up any fingerprints, 424 00:18:14,393 --> 00:18:16,729 and kill the doorman 425 00:18:16,762 --> 00:18:20,799 because he could identify you and my girlfriend, 426 00:18:20,833 --> 00:18:23,635 and, therefore, end up leading them back to me. 427 00:18:23,669 --> 00:18:26,405 [dramatic music] 428 00:18:26,438 --> 00:18:29,141 - Knowing already what these guys are capable of, 429 00:18:29,174 --> 00:18:31,677 we know it's a credible threat. 430 00:18:31,710 --> 00:18:33,879 - We were desperate to find O, 431 00:18:33,912 --> 00:18:35,781 because we didn't want him to come back 432 00:18:35,814 --> 00:18:37,349 and kill that doorman. 433 00:18:37,383 --> 00:18:44,423 * * 434 00:18:49,596 --> 00:18:52,132 [dramatic music] 435 00:18:52,465 --> 00:18:55,535 * * 436 00:18:55,568 --> 00:18:57,370 [siren wailing] 437 00:18:57,404 --> 00:18:58,805 - After the botched robbery ended 438 00:18:58,838 --> 00:19:00,240 in Thierry Matheron's murder, 439 00:19:00,273 --> 00:19:03,176 Paul Person immediately orders another hit 440 00:19:03,209 --> 00:19:05,011 from his jail cell at Rikers. 441 00:19:06,479 --> 00:19:09,082 - Person called O up and told him to go back 442 00:19:09,115 --> 00:19:12,285 and kill the doorman, who could identify him 443 00:19:12,318 --> 00:19:14,087 and his girlfriend. 444 00:19:14,120 --> 00:19:16,022 - Detectives get to the doorman 445 00:19:16,022 --> 00:19:18,158 and find he's unharmed. 446 00:19:18,191 --> 00:19:21,094 He recalls letting the perps up that day. 447 00:19:21,127 --> 00:19:22,662 - He gave a basic description. 448 00:19:22,696 --> 00:19:23,863 They weren't masked. 449 00:19:23,897 --> 00:19:26,132 They actually knew Mr. Matheron's name. 450 00:19:26,166 --> 00:19:28,268 They knew he was up on the 42nd floor. 451 00:19:28,301 --> 00:19:31,137 * * 452 00:19:31,171 --> 00:19:33,773 - Since the confidential informant had told our guys 453 00:19:33,807 --> 00:19:36,309 that O and Paul Person had been arrested together, 454 00:19:36,343 --> 00:19:38,578 they pull Paul's arrest record and discover that 455 00:19:38,611 --> 00:19:41,581 O's real name is Oliver Johnson. 456 00:19:41,614 --> 00:19:44,818 [suspenseful music] 457 00:19:44,851 --> 00:19:46,519 - They called him O on the street, 458 00:19:46,553 --> 00:19:48,254 and he and Paul knew each other 459 00:19:48,288 --> 00:19:50,256 from the Bronx, years ago. 460 00:19:50,290 --> 00:19:52,158 - Oliver Johnson had 461 00:19:52,192 --> 00:19:54,494 a fairly lengthy criminal history himself. 462 00:19:54,527 --> 00:19:58,298 He went to prison for burglary for four years. 463 00:19:58,331 --> 00:19:59,766 - For the doorman's safety, 464 00:19:59,799 --> 00:20:02,702 they make arrangements to give him the week off. 465 00:20:02,736 --> 00:20:05,538 - And we also sent detectives to sit on the building 466 00:20:05,572 --> 00:20:06,906 to keep an eye on it. 467 00:20:06,940 --> 00:20:08,541 If O shows up on the scene, 468 00:20:08,575 --> 00:20:10,944 we can pick him up and arrest him. 469 00:20:12,512 --> 00:20:14,881 - By checking Rikers inmate visitor records, 470 00:20:14,914 --> 00:20:17,584 detectives identified Paul Person's girlfriend 471 00:20:17,617 --> 00:20:20,153 as Nakia Shannon, 472 00:20:20,186 --> 00:20:22,589 but her background check is puzzling. 473 00:20:22,622 --> 00:20:24,924 - She didn't have any previous arrests. 474 00:20:24,958 --> 00:20:27,093 - It was somewhat surprising to believe 475 00:20:27,127 --> 00:20:28,995 she had committed a crime like this, 476 00:20:29,029 --> 00:20:32,532 certainly, without being pressured into it by someone, 477 00:20:32,565 --> 00:20:35,268 and given that this was the first arrest 478 00:20:35,301 --> 00:20:37,470 that she ever had. 479 00:20:37,504 --> 00:20:38,905 - While our guys are out looking 480 00:20:38,938 --> 00:20:40,707 for Nakia Shannon and Oliver Johnson, 481 00:20:40,740 --> 00:20:42,142 they also wanna make sure that 482 00:20:42,175 --> 00:20:44,377 Paul Person remains behind bars. 483 00:20:45,445 --> 00:20:49,215 - ADA Schiels placed a hold on Paul Person. 484 00:20:49,249 --> 00:20:51,151 He was not to get bailed out of jail. 485 00:20:51,184 --> 00:20:53,253 [tense music] 486 00:20:53,286 --> 00:20:55,522 - We weren't interested in speaking to Person 487 00:20:55,555 --> 00:20:57,590 because he was in jail. He wasn't going anywhere. 488 00:20:57,624 --> 00:20:58,892 We were interested in finding 489 00:20:58,925 --> 00:21:02,562 Oliver Johnson and Nakia Shannon. 490 00:21:02,595 --> 00:21:05,765 [sirens blaring] 491 00:21:07,067 --> 00:21:09,903 - We're looking for Oliver, and come up with addresses 492 00:21:09,936 --> 00:21:12,939 and known associates in the Bronx. 493 00:21:12,972 --> 00:21:14,641 Detectives hit those locations, 494 00:21:14,674 --> 00:21:16,076 but he was not at any of them. 495 00:21:16,076 --> 00:21:17,744 So he was not apprehended that night. 496 00:21:19,079 --> 00:21:21,815 - Our guys also have a Queens address for Nakia Shannon, 497 00:21:21,848 --> 00:21:23,717 but they strike out there as well. 498 00:21:23,750 --> 00:21:25,118 So they devise a plan to get 499 00:21:25,151 --> 00:21:26,953 Paul Person's confession on tape 500 00:21:26,986 --> 00:21:30,290 with the cooperation of their confidential informant. 501 00:21:33,093 --> 00:21:35,628 - The informant was looking for a deal for himself, 502 00:21:35,662 --> 00:21:38,131 so he was willing to take a chance. 503 00:21:38,164 --> 00:21:41,101 So the next day Detective Delgrosso and I 504 00:21:41,134 --> 00:21:43,103 go to Rikers Island 505 00:21:43,103 --> 00:21:45,405 and we meet with the people in intel 506 00:21:45,438 --> 00:21:49,743 who have the equipment to wire up an inmate. 507 00:21:49,776 --> 00:21:53,279 - We just wanted Mr. Person's own voice on tape, 508 00:21:53,313 --> 00:21:56,149 as opposed to just hearsay from the informant. 509 00:21:57,650 --> 00:21:59,119 He was a little nervous, 510 00:21:59,152 --> 00:22:01,087 but he knew that he had to follow through with it. 511 00:22:01,121 --> 00:22:03,223 [buzzer blares] 512 00:22:03,256 --> 00:22:07,594 - It's an extremely serious, dangerous situation. 513 00:22:07,627 --> 00:22:10,463 [tense music] 514 00:22:10,497 --> 00:22:12,766 - We told him, just start a conversation with him. 515 00:22:12,799 --> 00:22:14,367 Just ask him what's going on 516 00:22:14,401 --> 00:22:15,835 with the plot to kill the doorman. 517 00:22:15,869 --> 00:22:18,471 Where's Oliver Johnson? When's he supposed to do this? 518 00:22:18,505 --> 00:22:19,472 And so on. 519 00:22:19,506 --> 00:22:25,445 * * 520 00:22:25,478 --> 00:22:27,781 Paul Person just told him similar things that 521 00:22:27,814 --> 00:22:29,382 he had told him previously, 522 00:22:29,416 --> 00:22:32,986 the difference being, now we had it on tape, 523 00:22:33,086 --> 00:22:34,487 rather than just having to rely 524 00:22:34,521 --> 00:22:37,090 on the informant's word for what was said. 525 00:22:37,090 --> 00:22:38,825 [dramatic music] 526 00:22:38,858 --> 00:22:41,094 And it also was helpful because we were trying 527 00:22:41,094 --> 00:22:43,496 to find out where Johnson was, 528 00:22:43,530 --> 00:22:47,767 and the information we got was that he had gone down to D.C. 529 00:22:47,801 --> 00:22:50,170 - He was nervous that he was gonna get picked up. 530 00:22:50,203 --> 00:22:51,705 So he took off to Washington. 531 00:22:51,738 --> 00:22:54,107 * * 532 00:22:54,140 --> 00:22:56,943 - While a team in D.C. searches for O, 533 00:22:56,976 --> 00:22:59,212 Thierry's friends gather in the city. 534 00:22:59,245 --> 00:23:02,215 [somber music] 535 00:23:02,248 --> 00:23:04,217 * * 536 00:23:04,250 --> 00:23:07,287 - In New York, we organize a memorial service 537 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,191 at Saint Malachy's Church on 49th Street. 538 00:23:12,625 --> 00:23:15,095 - I think it was really important for everybody 539 00:23:15,128 --> 00:23:17,430 to be able to come together as a community 540 00:23:17,464 --> 00:23:20,867 and, you know, express themselves. 541 00:23:20,900 --> 00:23:22,736 - People were just, like, looking for answers. 542 00:23:22,769 --> 00:23:25,605 How could this possibly happen to this guy? 543 00:23:25,638 --> 00:23:29,075 * * 544 00:23:29,075 --> 00:23:31,111 [distant siren wailing] 545 00:23:31,144 --> 00:23:33,747 - Detectives unraveling that very question 546 00:23:33,780 --> 00:23:36,182 get a call about Paul Person's girlfriend. 547 00:23:36,216 --> 00:23:37,550 [tense music] 548 00:23:37,584 --> 00:23:40,220 - Other detectives had picked up Nakia Shannon 549 00:23:40,253 --> 00:23:42,088 at her home in Queens, 550 00:23:42,088 --> 00:23:44,824 and she was brought to the precinct to be questioned. 551 00:23:44,858 --> 00:23:46,226 * * 552 00:23:46,259 --> 00:23:48,261 - When we explained that we knew what happened, 553 00:23:48,294 --> 00:23:49,562 we knew about Oliver Johnson, 554 00:23:49,596 --> 00:23:51,664 we knew about her getting the gun, 555 00:23:51,698 --> 00:23:52,999 and all this other stuff, 556 00:23:53,099 --> 00:23:55,235 and it was in her best interest to cooperate. 557 00:23:55,268 --> 00:23:59,339 * * 558 00:24:50,423 --> 00:24:52,992 [tense music] 559 00:24:57,964 --> 00:25:00,066 - Nakia Shannon said that she didn't know 560 00:25:00,100 --> 00:25:02,902 that O was gonna kill Thierry. 561 00:25:02,936 --> 00:25:06,639 - She also wants to protect her boyfriend, Paul Person. 562 00:25:06,673 --> 00:25:11,111 She tells us that Paul Person had nothing to do with it. 563 00:25:11,144 --> 00:25:14,347 - I mean, basically she blamed the whole thing on Oliver. 564 00:25:14,381 --> 00:25:17,183 - Paul Person was the father of her child. 565 00:25:17,217 --> 00:25:20,620 So she didn't want to see him go down at all. 566 00:25:22,088 --> 00:25:23,957 - We basically laid it out to her and said, 567 00:25:24,057 --> 00:25:25,558 "Look, if you continue to lie, 568 00:25:25,592 --> 00:25:27,961 "you're just gonna get charged like everybody else. 569 00:25:28,061 --> 00:25:30,397 So why don't you cooperate with us?" 570 00:25:30,430 --> 00:25:33,400 And then we said, "Will you help us find Oliver?" 571 00:25:33,433 --> 00:25:36,536 - Nakia Shannon agreed to make a phone call 572 00:25:36,569 --> 00:25:39,072 to Oliver Johnson's girlfriend in the Bronx 573 00:25:39,105 --> 00:25:42,075 to see if she could find out where Oliver Johnson was. 574 00:25:42,075 --> 00:25:43,410 [phone ringing] 575 00:25:43,443 --> 00:25:47,180 Turns out, O never went to D.C. 576 00:25:47,213 --> 00:25:49,783 When she called, 577 00:25:49,816 --> 00:25:51,951 Oliver Johnson answered the phone. 578 00:25:51,985 --> 00:25:57,724 * * 579 00:26:01,628 --> 00:26:04,164 [dramatic music] 580 00:26:04,497 --> 00:26:06,032 * * 581 00:26:06,066 --> 00:26:09,035 [siren wailing] 582 00:26:09,035 --> 00:26:10,570 [dramatic music] 583 00:26:10,603 --> 00:26:12,672 - It's been two days since investigators found 584 00:26:12,706 --> 00:26:14,140 the body of Thierry Matheron. 585 00:26:15,709 --> 00:26:17,677 Paul Person's girlfriend, Nakia Shannon, 586 00:26:17,711 --> 00:26:20,380 agreed to help NYPD track down her accomplice, 587 00:26:20,413 --> 00:26:24,250 Oliver Johnson, also known as O. 588 00:26:24,284 --> 00:26:25,952 A phone call to his home in the Bronx 589 00:26:26,052 --> 00:26:27,387 reveals his whereabouts, 590 00:26:27,420 --> 00:26:29,522 and detectives move quickly to apprehend him. 591 00:26:29,556 --> 00:26:32,258 * * 592 00:26:32,292 --> 00:26:35,795 - Detectives were just about to knock on the door, 593 00:26:35,829 --> 00:26:38,264 and he opened the door to leave. 594 00:26:38,298 --> 00:26:39,632 * * 595 00:26:39,666 --> 00:26:41,434 - Oliver Johnson is arrested 596 00:26:41,468 --> 00:26:43,336 and brought in for questioning. 597 00:26:49,576 --> 00:26:51,711 - At first, he claims he had nothing to do 598 00:26:51,745 --> 00:26:53,213 with Thierry Matheron's murder, 599 00:26:53,246 --> 00:26:55,448 but then detectives show him something that 600 00:26:55,482 --> 00:26:58,084 makes him change his tune. 601 00:26:58,084 --> 00:27:03,089 - We showed him Nakia Shannon's statement... 602 00:27:03,123 --> 00:27:07,127 that said that he was the one who orchestrated all of this. 603 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,362 And he started saying that he was pressured 604 00:27:09,396 --> 00:27:11,031 by Paul Person to do it. 605 00:27:14,167 --> 00:27:16,403 - That's kind of Oliver's twist to it. 606 00:27:16,436 --> 00:27:20,674 Oliver was trying to push the blame on Paul and Nakia. 607 00:27:28,281 --> 00:27:30,784 - Assistant District Attorney Schiels tells Oliver Johnson 608 00:27:30,817 --> 00:27:33,053 that he will go down for first-degree murder 609 00:27:33,053 --> 00:27:34,754 unless he confesses to everything. 610 00:27:36,456 --> 00:27:38,124 After weighing the consequences, 611 00:27:38,158 --> 00:27:40,160 O takes the deal and comes clean. 612 00:27:49,169 --> 00:27:52,806 - Oliver tells us that he was in a cell, 613 00:27:52,839 --> 00:27:55,408 upstate New York, with an inmate, 614 00:27:55,442 --> 00:28:00,146 Steven Lee, who was up there for a parole violation. 615 00:28:00,180 --> 00:28:03,750 Steven tells him that he picked up homosexuals 616 00:28:03,783 --> 00:28:06,686 and performed sex acts for money. 617 00:28:08,221 --> 00:28:10,757 - He said he met Mr. Matheron 618 00:28:10,790 --> 00:28:13,026 at the Port Authority bus terminal. 619 00:28:14,461 --> 00:28:17,197 Mr. Matheron paid him for sex. 620 00:28:18,865 --> 00:28:22,135 - So he gets picked up a few times by Thierry. 621 00:28:22,168 --> 00:28:24,337 Oliver tells me that 622 00:28:24,371 --> 00:28:27,040 Thierry wanted Steven to move in with him. 623 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,909 - But Mr. Matheron kept noticing every time 624 00:28:29,943 --> 00:28:32,912 the police were around, Mr. Lee was very nervous. 625 00:28:32,946 --> 00:28:35,048 So Mr. Lee confessed to him that 626 00:28:35,048 --> 00:28:37,717 he was currently on parole from a robbery charge, 627 00:28:37,751 --> 00:28:40,086 and there was a warrant out for his arrest 628 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:44,290 because he still had time for his robbery conviction. 629 00:28:45,592 --> 00:28:48,194 - Mr. Matheron had Steven turn himself in 630 00:28:48,228 --> 00:28:50,930 to clear up his parole violation, 631 00:28:50,964 --> 00:28:53,667 and he was going to let him come to live with him 632 00:28:53,700 --> 00:28:55,835 when he got out of prison. 633 00:28:55,869 --> 00:28:58,505 - Oliver was in a cell with Steven Lee. 634 00:28:58,538 --> 00:29:01,141 Steven's always telling Oliver about this rich guy 635 00:29:01,174 --> 00:29:02,642 who's in this luxury apartment 636 00:29:02,676 --> 00:29:05,011 with a nice view over Times Square. 637 00:29:05,045 --> 00:29:07,247 Steven lived on the street, 638 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,582 so to him, he's living a lavish lifestyle 639 00:29:09,616 --> 00:29:11,051 in Midtown Manhattan. 640 00:29:11,084 --> 00:29:14,087 [tense music] 641 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,189 Thierry would confide in Steven. 642 00:29:16,222 --> 00:29:19,159 This is how he got the story that Thierry was gonna take 643 00:29:19,192 --> 00:29:22,195 all his money out for the Y2K issue coming up 644 00:29:22,228 --> 00:29:25,365 because he's afraid of it being in the banks. 645 00:29:25,398 --> 00:29:28,234 So Steven, he's filling Oliver's head 646 00:29:28,268 --> 00:29:30,470 with all this information. 647 00:29:30,503 --> 00:29:32,605 - Eventually, Steven introduces 648 00:29:32,639 --> 00:29:35,041 his cell mate, Oliver, to Thierry. 649 00:29:41,348 --> 00:29:43,750 - So now Oliver gets out of the state prison 650 00:29:43,783 --> 00:29:45,618 prior to Steven getting released. 651 00:29:49,656 --> 00:29:51,891 - Now he goes home, back to the Bronx, 652 00:29:51,925 --> 00:29:53,727 and I'm sure he doesn't have a job, 653 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,562 and he needs money. 654 00:29:55,595 --> 00:29:58,732 - So Johnson contacted Mr. Matheron 655 00:29:58,765 --> 00:30:01,901 and began to visit him and, supposedly, 656 00:30:01,935 --> 00:30:05,271 get money loaned to him by Mr. Matheron. 657 00:30:21,454 --> 00:30:23,823 - Oliver Johnson starts telling Paul Person 658 00:30:23,857 --> 00:30:26,626 about this rich white guy, Thierry Matheron. 659 00:30:26,659 --> 00:30:28,428 Paul said, "If the money's in the apartment, 660 00:30:28,461 --> 00:30:29,829 let's go rob him." 661 00:30:31,865 --> 00:30:33,366 [suspenseful music] 662 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,769 - The day before the robbery, Oliver Johnson calls up 663 00:30:35,802 --> 00:30:38,505 Thierry Matheron with a bogus story. 664 00:30:38,538 --> 00:30:41,107 - "I'm gonna come by tomorrow with some shoes for you 665 00:30:41,141 --> 00:30:44,210 "to send to Steven Lee up in prison. 666 00:30:44,244 --> 00:30:46,012 Are you gonna be home?" 667 00:30:46,046 --> 00:30:47,714 And Matheron said yes. 668 00:30:47,747 --> 00:30:49,582 * * 669 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,856 - We realize that this is the guy who was 670 00:30:56,890 --> 00:31:01,094 calling Thierry's apartment from the correctional facility 671 00:31:01,127 --> 00:31:04,731 and leaving the voicemails on the day of the homicide. 672 00:31:05,799 --> 00:31:07,267 - Just by coincidence, 673 00:31:07,300 --> 00:31:09,803 Matheron had gotten a phone call from Steven Lee, 674 00:31:09,836 --> 00:31:11,504 and he was on the phone with him 675 00:31:11,538 --> 00:31:14,808 when Johnson and Shannon walked in. 676 00:31:14,841 --> 00:31:17,277 Matheron said, "Hey, here's your buddy on the phone," 677 00:31:17,310 --> 00:31:20,246 and he gave the phone to Johnson. 678 00:31:27,253 --> 00:31:29,622 - Steven Lee was surprised that they were there. 679 00:31:29,656 --> 00:31:32,692 He assumed that they were trying to move in 680 00:31:32,726 --> 00:31:36,229 on his squeeze or get money from him. 681 00:31:36,262 --> 00:31:38,131 Oliver hung up on him. 682 00:31:39,299 --> 00:31:43,169 - Then Oliver Johnson makes a shocking allegation. 683 00:31:52,545 --> 00:31:54,748 - Oliver Johnson puts all the blame on her, 684 00:31:54,781 --> 00:31:56,249 saying she brandished the gun, 685 00:31:56,282 --> 00:31:58,118 she was the one to put the duct tape on the guy, 686 00:31:58,151 --> 00:31:59,919 she was the one who stabbed him, 687 00:31:59,953 --> 00:32:02,756 and that he only put a small piece of tape him. 688 00:32:02,789 --> 00:32:04,491 It was all her, it wasn't me. 689 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,261 - Coming up... 690 00:32:08,294 --> 00:32:10,930 - Paul Person is out of jail. I was shocked. 691 00:32:10,964 --> 00:32:13,433 - He's whispering Paul was gonna rob the place. 692 00:32:13,466 --> 00:32:14,601 So I said, "How do you know?" 693 00:32:14,634 --> 00:32:16,202 He said, "Well, we got a gun on us." 694 00:32:16,236 --> 00:32:17,737 I'm like, "Get out of there." 695 00:32:21,074 --> 00:32:24,000 [dramatic music] 696 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:29,149 [dramatic music] 697 00:32:29,482 --> 00:32:35,455 * * 698 00:32:36,623 --> 00:32:39,459 - NYPD detectives and ADA Tom Schiels 699 00:32:39,492 --> 00:32:41,394 are getting confessions from Oliver Johnson 700 00:32:41,428 --> 00:32:43,163 and Nakia Shannon about their roles 701 00:32:43,196 --> 00:32:45,665 in the murder of Thierry Matheron, 702 00:32:45,699 --> 00:32:48,201 but they are pointing fingers at each other. 703 00:32:55,608 --> 00:32:58,311 - Our guys thought to put the screws on Nakia Shannon 704 00:32:58,345 --> 00:33:00,613 to get her to own up to her involvement 705 00:33:00,647 --> 00:33:04,684 or face the maximum charges allowed by law. 706 00:33:14,661 --> 00:33:17,163 - So Shannon held the gun to the guy. 707 00:33:23,503 --> 00:33:26,306 - Johnson duct-taped Matheron, 708 00:33:26,339 --> 00:33:28,842 and when Mr. Matheron was taped up, 709 00:33:28,875 --> 00:33:31,945 when he started making noises trying to breathe, 710 00:33:31,978 --> 00:33:34,981 Johnson was afraid that he was going to alert a neighbor 711 00:33:35,081 --> 00:33:37,450 and that he would be caught. 712 00:33:37,484 --> 00:33:40,086 That's why he stabbed him in the neck. 713 00:33:42,555 --> 00:33:43,857 - The large sum of cash 714 00:33:43,890 --> 00:33:45,658 stashed away in the victim's apartment 715 00:33:45,692 --> 00:33:47,794 that Oliver Johnson heard so much about 716 00:33:47,827 --> 00:33:49,896 during his conversations with Steven Lee 717 00:33:49,929 --> 00:33:52,198 never existed. 718 00:33:53,333 --> 00:33:54,734 - All they got from Mr. Matheron was 719 00:33:54,768 --> 00:33:57,904 $40 cash that they found in his wallet. 720 00:33:57,937 --> 00:34:01,241 They jumped in a cab and went back to the Bronx. 721 00:34:03,576 --> 00:34:06,046 - At this point, Johnson and Shannon 722 00:34:06,046 --> 00:34:07,580 are in the soup. 723 00:34:07,614 --> 00:34:09,115 Going down. 724 00:34:09,149 --> 00:34:11,051 They've both proven that they have committed these crimes. 725 00:34:11,051 --> 00:34:12,652 [suspenseful music] 726 00:34:12,686 --> 00:34:15,155 - There's also enough evidence to indict Paul Person, 727 00:34:15,188 --> 00:34:16,890 but there's still another individual that 728 00:34:16,923 --> 00:34:18,892 our guys need to speak with. 729 00:34:18,925 --> 00:34:20,727 - Steven Lee from the state prison. 730 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,529 He was brought to the district attorney's office 731 00:34:22,562 --> 00:34:24,731 because he apparently was unaware that 732 00:34:24,764 --> 00:34:26,633 Thierry Matheron has been murdered. 733 00:34:26,666 --> 00:34:28,868 [tense music] 734 00:34:28,902 --> 00:34:31,071 - I told Steven Lee that 735 00:34:31,071 --> 00:34:33,239 his friend Mr. Matheron had been killed 736 00:34:33,273 --> 00:34:35,208 and that it was on the day that he last spoke 737 00:34:35,241 --> 00:34:36,576 to him on the phone. 738 00:34:36,609 --> 00:34:38,478 He had called many, many times after that 739 00:34:38,511 --> 00:34:39,746 and never got an answer, 740 00:34:39,779 --> 00:34:41,748 and he didn't know what had happened. 741 00:34:41,781 --> 00:34:43,883 - He didn't take it very well. 742 00:34:43,917 --> 00:34:45,185 He was a huge guy. 743 00:34:45,218 --> 00:34:48,188 He was, like, 6'6", about 300 pounds. 744 00:34:48,221 --> 00:34:50,957 He dropped to the floor and cried in the fetal position 745 00:34:50,990 --> 00:34:53,093 for quite a while before we could get him up. 746 00:34:53,093 --> 00:34:57,897 - He was truly grief-stricken by the loss of Mr. Matheron. 747 00:34:57,931 --> 00:35:00,734 [tense music] 748 00:35:00,767 --> 00:35:02,602 - While the district attorney's office 749 00:35:02,635 --> 00:35:04,571 is preparing indictments against Oliver Johnson, 750 00:35:04,604 --> 00:35:06,573 Nakia Shannon, and Paul Person, 751 00:35:06,606 --> 00:35:08,241 the confidential informant, 752 00:35:08,274 --> 00:35:09,909 as per his deal with ADA Tom Schiels, 753 00:35:09,943 --> 00:35:11,511 is released from jail. 754 00:35:11,544 --> 00:35:14,881 But detectives get alarming news out of Rikers. 755 00:35:14,914 --> 00:35:16,416 [dramatic music] 756 00:35:16,449 --> 00:35:18,184 - Paul Person is out of jail. 757 00:35:18,218 --> 00:35:19,619 I was quite shocked. 758 00:35:19,652 --> 00:35:21,254 * * 759 00:35:21,287 --> 00:35:23,590 - Although Assistant District Attorney Tom Schiels 760 00:35:23,623 --> 00:35:25,258 placed a hold in the system 761 00:35:25,291 --> 00:35:27,394 to keep Paul Person from posting bail, 762 00:35:27,427 --> 00:35:29,362 the unthinkable happened. 763 00:35:29,396 --> 00:35:31,898 - The hold was somehow missed, 764 00:35:31,931 --> 00:35:34,734 and Paul was then bailed out of jail. 765 00:35:34,768 --> 00:35:36,936 * * 766 00:35:36,970 --> 00:35:39,706 Immediate reaction was that Paul Person was gonna 767 00:35:39,739 --> 00:35:44,978 seek out the informant and possibly harm him. 768 00:35:45,078 --> 00:35:50,350 * * 769 00:35:50,383 --> 00:35:52,419 So our main thing was 770 00:35:52,452 --> 00:35:54,454 to try to find the whereabouts of Paul 771 00:35:54,487 --> 00:35:58,458 and make sure that the two of them didn't interact. 772 00:35:58,491 --> 00:36:01,127 - Our team is desperate to find Paul, 773 00:36:01,161 --> 00:36:02,495 so detectives turn 774 00:36:02,529 --> 00:36:04,764 to their confidential informant for help. 775 00:36:04,798 --> 00:36:08,802 They give him a pager in case Paul Person makes contact. 776 00:36:08,835 --> 00:36:10,670 [distant siren wailing] 777 00:36:12,138 --> 00:36:14,774 - Later on that night, Paul notified him. 778 00:36:14,808 --> 00:36:16,142 [phone rings] 779 00:36:16,176 --> 00:36:18,678 The informant called our office and told me that 780 00:36:18,712 --> 00:36:20,480 he was gonna meet with Paul. 781 00:36:20,513 --> 00:36:22,482 And we told him, "Under no circumstances 782 00:36:22,515 --> 00:36:24,050 do you go meet with him." 783 00:36:24,050 --> 00:36:25,752 And that's when he said, "No, I have no choice. 784 00:36:25,785 --> 00:36:27,053 I have to." 785 00:36:27,053 --> 00:36:28,922 * * 786 00:36:28,955 --> 00:36:31,491 He didn't know what Paul wanted 787 00:36:31,524 --> 00:36:34,327 except that he wanted to see him right away. 788 00:36:34,361 --> 00:36:36,262 - The informant says, "I'll be undercover. 789 00:36:36,296 --> 00:36:38,098 "I'll get him to come into Manhattan with a gun, 790 00:36:38,131 --> 00:36:39,632 and then you can arrest him." 791 00:36:39,666 --> 00:36:41,668 And we said, "No. Do not do that. 792 00:36:41,701 --> 00:36:44,070 "You're not undercover anymore. 793 00:36:44,070 --> 00:36:47,640 Stay away from him. Don't answer his phone calls." 794 00:36:47,674 --> 00:36:48,908 - They were thinking that 795 00:36:48,942 --> 00:36:50,877 Paul Person has something over the informant. 796 00:36:50,910 --> 00:36:53,179 [suspenseful music] 797 00:36:53,213 --> 00:36:55,081 [pager beeping] 798 00:36:55,081 --> 00:36:57,817 - For the next week or two, the informant doesn't respond 799 00:36:57,851 --> 00:36:59,419 to any of the beeps. 800 00:36:59,452 --> 00:37:01,888 [pager beeping] 801 00:37:01,921 --> 00:37:03,757 We were concerned. 802 00:37:03,790 --> 00:37:05,892 [car honking] 803 00:37:05,925 --> 00:37:09,562 And then one evening he calls the precinct 804 00:37:09,596 --> 00:37:11,765 and says he's in Queens 805 00:37:11,798 --> 00:37:14,501 with Paul Person at a barbershop. 806 00:37:14,534 --> 00:37:17,170 And the detective who answered the phone call 807 00:37:17,203 --> 00:37:19,172 is dumbfounded at this. 808 00:37:19,205 --> 00:37:21,074 Well, what? Are you outside? 809 00:37:21,107 --> 00:37:22,809 "No, I'm sitting in the barbershop. 810 00:37:22,842 --> 00:37:25,045 He's about 8 feet away. He's getting his hair cut." 811 00:37:25,045 --> 00:37:28,048 - But he never tells us the location of the barbershop. 812 00:37:28,048 --> 00:37:29,649 He just said that it was in Queens. 813 00:37:31,051 --> 00:37:33,687 He's whispering Paul was gonna rob the place. 814 00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:34,854 So I said, "How do you know?" 815 00:37:34,888 --> 00:37:36,489 He said, "Well, we got a gun on us." 816 00:37:36,523 --> 00:37:38,158 * * 817 00:37:38,191 --> 00:37:40,593 I'm like, "Get out of there. You're gonna get in trouble." 818 00:37:40,627 --> 00:37:43,530 He said, "That's all right. I work for you guys." 819 00:37:43,563 --> 00:37:44,731 I'm like, "No. 820 00:37:44,764 --> 00:37:46,499 Just get out of there. Leave." 821 00:37:46,533 --> 00:37:47,767 He said, "I can't. If I leave, 822 00:37:47,801 --> 00:37:49,602 he's gonna know something's up." 823 00:37:49,636 --> 00:37:51,438 - The informant quickly hangs up, 824 00:37:51,471 --> 00:37:54,541 leaving our team on pins and needles. 825 00:37:56,242 --> 00:37:58,712 They don't get an update till the next morning 826 00:37:58,745 --> 00:38:00,847 from a cop in Queens. 827 00:38:01,915 --> 00:38:03,650 - I get a call the next morning 828 00:38:03,683 --> 00:38:07,654 from a Queens detective squad that there's a guy here 829 00:38:07,687 --> 00:38:09,889 that was arrested for an armed robbery last night 830 00:38:09,923 --> 00:38:12,025 in a Queens barbershop, 831 00:38:12,025 --> 00:38:15,395 and he says that he's working with you guys on a case. 832 00:38:15,428 --> 00:38:16,629 * * 833 00:38:16,663 --> 00:38:18,865 So I immediately call Tom and say, 834 00:38:18,898 --> 00:38:20,700 "Now we have another issue." 835 00:38:20,734 --> 00:38:23,136 - At which point, I talk to the informant. 836 00:38:23,169 --> 00:38:26,039 I said, "I told you stay away from him. 837 00:38:26,072 --> 00:38:27,207 What are you doing?" 838 00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:28,942 He says, "I was deep undercover." 839 00:38:29,042 --> 00:38:31,945 I said, "Forget undercover. You robbed that guy." 840 00:38:33,046 --> 00:38:34,414 First of all, why? 841 00:38:34,447 --> 00:38:36,082 And he said, "That guy was supposed to put up bail 842 00:38:36,116 --> 00:38:37,384 "for Paul Person, but he didn't, 843 00:38:37,417 --> 00:38:39,586 so that's why Paul Person robbed him." 844 00:38:39,619 --> 00:38:41,921 But the guy says you took some of the jewelry. 845 00:38:41,955 --> 00:38:44,090 He says, "Well, I had to. 846 00:38:44,124 --> 00:38:46,326 "If I didn't take some of the jewelry, 847 00:38:46,359 --> 00:38:48,161 "Paul Person'd think that I had 848 00:38:48,194 --> 00:38:49,829 something wrong going on here." 849 00:38:49,863 --> 00:38:53,633 And I said, "But the barber says you had the gun." 850 00:38:53,667 --> 00:38:56,369 And he says, "Of course I had the gun. 851 00:38:56,403 --> 00:38:58,104 "I didn't want Paul Person to have it. 852 00:38:58,138 --> 00:39:00,006 He might have shot the guy." 853 00:39:01,408 --> 00:39:05,011 And the next thing you know, off the informant goes, 854 00:39:05,045 --> 00:39:08,515 under arrest for the robbery of the barber. 855 00:39:08,548 --> 00:39:10,050 [dramatic music] 856 00:39:10,083 --> 00:39:14,020 - But now, our guys have a massive problem. 857 00:39:14,020 --> 00:39:15,555 - Paul got away. 858 00:39:15,588 --> 00:39:17,791 - And we had no idea where he was. 859 00:39:17,824 --> 00:39:23,730 * * 860 00:39:27,533 --> 00:39:30,069 [dramatic music] 861 00:39:30,402 --> 00:39:33,639 * * 862 00:39:33,672 --> 00:39:35,374 [sirens blaring] 863 00:39:35,407 --> 00:39:37,776 - Thierry Matheron's killers are in custody, 864 00:39:37,810 --> 00:39:40,045 but Paul Person, their accomplice, 865 00:39:40,045 --> 00:39:41,380 is back on the streets. 866 00:39:41,413 --> 00:39:43,182 After sticking up a barbershop in Queens 867 00:39:43,215 --> 00:39:44,817 with our confidential informant, 868 00:39:44,850 --> 00:39:46,518 he's managed to elude detectives. 869 00:39:46,552 --> 00:39:51,190 * * 870 00:39:51,223 --> 00:39:53,192 - We got information from the informant 871 00:39:53,225 --> 00:39:55,327 a few days later that Paul was staying 872 00:39:55,361 --> 00:39:57,162 at an apartment in Harlem. 873 00:39:59,131 --> 00:40:00,933 He gave us the address. 874 00:40:00,966 --> 00:40:03,402 We get there. 875 00:40:03,435 --> 00:40:05,838 We find out that Paul is in the apartment. 876 00:40:07,306 --> 00:40:09,208 We had the exits covered. 877 00:40:09,241 --> 00:40:11,010 [sirens wailing] 878 00:40:11,043 --> 00:40:14,913 Finally, the female occupant let us into the apartment. 879 00:40:14,947 --> 00:40:17,349 [dramatic music] 880 00:40:17,383 --> 00:40:18,617 * * 881 00:40:18,650 --> 00:40:21,687 Paul was in a bedroom in the back. 882 00:40:21,720 --> 00:40:24,757 They went into the bedroom... 883 00:40:24,790 --> 00:40:26,125 and arrested him. 884 00:40:27,693 --> 00:40:31,163 It was a big relief that he was finally in custody. 885 00:40:31,196 --> 00:40:33,499 [tense music] 886 00:40:33,532 --> 00:40:36,035 - They tried to question him, 887 00:40:36,068 --> 00:40:38,103 but he wasn't giving it up. 888 00:40:38,137 --> 00:40:40,072 * * 889 00:40:40,105 --> 00:40:42,341 - In exchange for statements against Paul Person, 890 00:40:42,374 --> 00:40:45,244 Oliver Johnson and Nakia Shannon are given plea deals 891 00:40:45,277 --> 00:40:47,780 for second-degree murder. 892 00:40:47,813 --> 00:40:50,749 - We had the actual killer, Oliver Johnson-- 893 00:40:50,783 --> 00:40:54,053 the guy who put the tape around Mr. Matheron's face 894 00:40:54,086 --> 00:40:55,721 and stabbed him in the neck. 895 00:40:55,754 --> 00:40:58,924 And we had Paul Person's girlfriend, 896 00:40:58,957 --> 00:41:02,061 who pointed a gun at Mr. Matheron 897 00:41:02,061 --> 00:41:04,163 while he was being duct-taped. 898 00:41:05,197 --> 00:41:08,434 - Oliver Johnson was sentenced to 15 years to life, 899 00:41:08,467 --> 00:41:12,137 and Nakia Shannon spent 6 years in prison. 900 00:41:12,171 --> 00:41:14,139 - They took a person's life. 901 00:41:14,173 --> 00:41:15,774 There's just no words for it. 902 00:41:15,808 --> 00:41:18,310 It still remains, for me personally, 903 00:41:18,344 --> 00:41:20,446 extremely painful, 904 00:41:20,479 --> 00:41:24,817 like a permanent, deep, dark scar. 905 00:41:24,850 --> 00:41:26,385 * * 906 00:41:26,418 --> 00:41:28,554 - Paul Person is charged with felony murder 907 00:41:28,587 --> 00:41:30,723 and intentional murder-- also robbery. 908 00:41:30,756 --> 00:41:33,158 And three years after Thierry Matheron's murder, 909 00:41:33,192 --> 00:41:35,327 prosecutors get to argue their case against him 910 00:41:35,361 --> 00:41:36,562 in front of a jury. 911 00:41:36,595 --> 00:41:39,098 * * 912 00:41:39,131 --> 00:41:41,767 - The jury found the defendant guilty 913 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,402 of robbery in the first degree, 914 00:41:43,435 --> 00:41:45,637 but not guilty of felony murder 915 00:41:45,671 --> 00:41:47,606 and not guilty of intentional murder. 916 00:41:47,639 --> 00:41:49,174 * * 917 00:41:49,208 --> 00:41:51,744 I was disappointed that he wasn't convicted of murder, 918 00:41:51,777 --> 00:41:54,747 but he was sentenced to 25 years in prison 919 00:41:54,780 --> 00:41:56,682 on the robbery count. 920 00:41:56,715 --> 00:41:59,318 * * 921 00:41:59,351 --> 00:42:01,353 - It was obviously a good feeling to know that 922 00:42:01,387 --> 00:42:03,522 the investigation ended 923 00:42:03,555 --> 00:42:06,125 with everybody involved being convicted. 924 00:42:06,158 --> 00:42:09,328 It was justice for our victim and his family. 925 00:42:09,361 --> 00:42:11,130 [upbeat music] 926 00:42:11,163 --> 00:42:12,831 - We used to call it the "backwards case" 927 00:42:12,865 --> 00:42:14,800 'cause we knew who the perpetrators were 928 00:42:14,833 --> 00:42:16,735 before we even knew where the body was 929 00:42:16,769 --> 00:42:18,237 or the crime scene was. 930 00:42:18,270 --> 00:42:19,672 They usually don't happen that way. 931 00:42:19,705 --> 00:42:21,373 It's usually the other way around. 932 00:42:21,407 --> 00:42:23,242 - The informant expediting it for us was 933 00:42:23,275 --> 00:42:25,310 a big asset in the case. 934 00:42:25,344 --> 00:42:26,912 - I know he cooperated throughout 935 00:42:26,945 --> 00:42:28,380 the course of the investigation, 936 00:42:28,414 --> 00:42:32,084 and he testified during Paul Person's trial. 937 00:42:32,084 --> 00:42:33,819 - So the informant got a plea deal 938 00:42:33,852 --> 00:42:35,821 for the robbery of the barber, 939 00:42:35,854 --> 00:42:38,624 and when he got out of prison, he asked me for a letter 940 00:42:38,657 --> 00:42:41,160 of recommendation to get a job 941 00:42:41,193 --> 00:42:44,697 as a porter in an apartment building in Manhattan. 942 00:42:44,730 --> 00:42:47,099 So I wrote a truthful letter saying 943 00:42:47,099 --> 00:42:48,534 this is what you need to know, 944 00:42:48,567 --> 00:42:50,269 but he was a truthful person with us. 945 00:42:51,537 --> 00:42:53,505 And that was the mid-2000s, 946 00:42:53,539 --> 00:42:56,809 and he's been working at that place ever since. 947 00:42:56,842 --> 00:42:58,177 - God bless him, you know? 948 00:42:58,210 --> 00:42:59,511 He's on the straight and narrow, 949 00:42:59,545 --> 00:43:01,046 and he made good his opportunity, 950 00:43:01,046 --> 00:43:03,615 as far as I know. 951 00:43:03,649 --> 00:43:06,552 all: [shouting] Eight, seven, six, 952 00:43:06,585 --> 00:43:08,854 five, four, three, 953 00:43:08,887 --> 00:43:10,923 two, one! 954 00:43:10,956 --> 00:43:12,725 [cheering] 955 00:43:12,758 --> 00:43:15,060 - While there were no Y2K computer issues 956 00:43:15,094 --> 00:43:17,429 during the millennium New Year celebrations, 957 00:43:17,463 --> 00:43:18,964 for Thierry Matheron's friends, 958 00:43:19,064 --> 00:43:21,467 it was still a very difficult time. 959 00:43:21,500 --> 00:43:25,204 - Thierry just had a presence and a personality 960 00:43:25,237 --> 00:43:28,974 about him that was so endearing that 961 00:43:29,074 --> 00:43:31,410 there was a chunk of all of us that got lost 962 00:43:31,443 --> 00:43:33,679 when we lost Thierry. 963 00:43:33,712 --> 00:43:36,348 You know, some part of this world 964 00:43:36,382 --> 00:43:39,952 isn't where it needs to be 'cause Thierry's not in it. 965 00:43:39,985 --> 00:43:42,955 [somber music] 966 00:43:42,988 --> 00:43:46,458 * *