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- A mass shooting above new
york's famous carnegie deli.
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- Five people shot.
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- This was execution-style
firing down.
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- It's midtown manhattan.
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It's the number
one tourist area.
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It just doesn't happen here.
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- Why were these other
individuals in the apartment?
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- It comes down to the common
denominator, jennifer stahl.
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- A singer and actress
hoping to find fame.
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- She booked "dirty dancing"
on her own.
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- Who knows what
she would have done?
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Who knows what
she would have created?
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- With a dangerous
side hustle--
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- To be in show business
in new york,
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You really need
to just fight through.
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- Jen had clientele
in the music industry.
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- We came across a security
camera on the second floor.
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- When you see those people
running down the stairs,
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I know that those are the
two people that did it.
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They're armed.
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And they're
a danger to society.
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- So we pitched the story
to "america's most wanted."
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He knew we were
looking for him.
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He left in a hurry.
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- We were living
with this idea
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That these people
might never be caught.
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[tense bassy music]
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♪ ♪
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- If new york city
is the big apple,
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Then midtown manhattan
is its core.
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Located in the north
of midtown
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Is the iconic new york
landmark the carnegie deli.
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Every day,
tourists line the sidewalk
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Waiting for their famed
pastrami sandwiches.
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Six floors above
the famous deli,
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39-year-old
jennifer stahl lives
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The new york dream as a
singer, dancer, and actress.
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But when her name
becomes front-page news
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In the spring of 2001,
it isn't because she
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Scored the part of a lifetime.
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- On may 10, 2001
approximately 7:30 p.M.,
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The 911 dispatcher
received a call
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From a male
who sounded very panicked.
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He said his name
was anthony veader.
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- Anthony was in an
extremely excited state.
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He said that he was shot.
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And he didn't know
whether or not
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The other people
in the apartment
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Were alive or dead or if the
perpetrators are still there
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Or where they went.
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- We received a call to
respond to the carnegie deli.
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It's midtown manhattan.
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It's the number one
tourist area.
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There rarely are
shootings in midtown.
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[sirens wailing]
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As we walk up,
we hear a woman's voice
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Coming from one of
the higher flights upstairs.
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Her voice just sounded
like she was going
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Through something emotionally.
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Now we take our guns
out of our holsters
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And continue cautiously.
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I don't know if there's
someone with a gun there
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Waiting for us or if
the woman upstairs
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Is a victim or a suspect.
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And at the top
of the landing is a female.
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She has blood all over her
clothes and on her hair.
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She also had her hands
behind her back.
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We ask her, "can you
please show us your hands?"
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She didn't comply.
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I don't know if she's hiding
a weapon behind her back.
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When we asked her to move
to the side, she stared at us.
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And then she actually fainted.
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At that point, I see her hands
were tied behind her back
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With duct tape.
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We open the door
to the apartment.
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There is a male
laying face down.
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And he says, "help me."
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Right at the entrance, there
are two other males that also
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Have a lot of blood on them.
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Both of them had
their hands in duct tape,
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Tied behind their backs.
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They just weren't
moving at all.
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At that point,
we cleared the apartment.
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I walk into
the living room area.
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And I see on my left a small
makeshift music studio.
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And I look down on the floor.
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And I see a female
laying on her side.
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She is in a lot of blood.
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And I could hear her like
struggling to breathe.
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It appeared that she
was shot in the head.
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Five people shot.
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My god,
this is a lot of victims.
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[radio chatter]
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[sirens wailing]
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- My first responsibility is
to identify all the victims.
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[radio chatter]
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We learned that there were
five victims in the apartment,
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Stephen king
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And trey helliwell,
both deceased.
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- Jennifer stahl,
the renter of the apartment,
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Rosemond dane,
the victim found on the stairs,
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And anthony veader,
who called 911.
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All three were taken
by ambulance to the hospital.
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[radio chatter]
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- While the surviving
victims cling to life,
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Detectives focus on
examining the crime scene.
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- All the victims had been
shot in the back of the head.
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[camera shutter clicks]
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- With what we see from the
blood splatter on the floor
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And by looking at the
injuries of the survivors
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And of the deceased,
this was an execution-style
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Firing down.
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[camera shutter clicks]
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You look at the duct tape, and
you're saying, ok, important.
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- There were fingerprints
found on the duct tape that
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Was used to bind the victims.
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There's no innocent
explanation
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For duct tape fingerprints.
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Fingerprints on duct
tape have to be
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Placed there by the people
who conducted this crime.
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- When detectives
entered the music studio,
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They discovered
jennifer's apartment
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Was more than just her home.
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- There was like
a bunch of jars.
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And all the jars had buds
of marijuana in them.
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It just seemed more
like gourmet weed to me.
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She was selling, but I knew
that it wasn't like just
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A typical drug dealer.
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- Where it was in midtown told
you a lot about the clients.
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I think the theater
industry, the media industry,
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This is where they going.
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- We speak to neighbors,
store owners.
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We speak to anybody
who may have been around
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At that time to see
if anybody noticed
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Anything or saw anything.
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- There was a witness that
worked for carnegie deli who
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Saw two men running from
the building around the time
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The crime occurred.
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They described those
two male blacks and one
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Of whom had dreadlocks.
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[sirens wailing]
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- With rumors spreading
about police activity
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At the famous carnegie deli,
a frenzy of tourists and media
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Crowds the scene.
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- You put up crime scene tape
in the rest of the country,
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And everybody knows that's
someplace to stay away.
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But in new york city,
that means come take a look.
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[sirens wailing]
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- Back in the day, comics did
hang out at the carnegie deli.
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The walls were lined
with autographed pictures
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Of famous actors
and actresses and comics.
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I knew once the media got
ahold of the carnegie deli
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It was going to take
on a life of its own.
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The next morning,
when we picked up the story,
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We found out that
jennifer died overnight.
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- I remember seeing
on the news her on the gurney.
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And I can remember seeing
the cast on her hand.
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She's had a surgery
on her pinkie,
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I believe,
two or three days before.
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When I saw that cast,
I knew it was jen.
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- So now we have
three people dead...
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And two people wounded.
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- The only connection
between all the victims
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Is jennifer stahl.
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It was her apartment.
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So we started looking at
what was going on in her life
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Before she died.
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- Jen wanted to be a star.
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New york is where
everything happens,
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That if you make it here,
you can make it anywhere.
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That's the gold standard.
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- In 1985, when an apartment
in the heart of the theater
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District became available,
jennifer
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Didn't hesitate to move
closer to the bright lights
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Of broadway and hopefully to
her dream of becoming a star.
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- In those days, everybody's
going to auditions,
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You know, doing the try
to be a broadway thing.
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To be in show business
in new york,
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You have to have thick skin.
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You really need
to just fight through.
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- She hustled her way.
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She networked.
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She booked "dirty dancing"
on her own
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Without an agent.
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- Jen evolved from really
dancing and acting to music,
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She had these friends who
were accomplished musicians.
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You know,
and she would get them
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To come in the studio in her
apartment and lay a track.
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Jennifer was passionate
about music.
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When she met her boyfriend and
he was a drummer, of course,
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That was just a natural
connection for them.
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- But there was a little bit
of violence
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In her relationship.
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- They did argue sometimes.
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- So when the police asked me
who I thought killed her...
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Witnesses saw a black man
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With dreads fleeing the scene.
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I thought...
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That described her boyfriend.
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[tense bassy music]
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[radio chatter]
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- The morning after five
people were shot
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In jennifer stahl's apartment
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Above the world-famous
carnegie deli,
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Investigators get
their first lead
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From jennifer's best friend.
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- The only thing
that made sense to me
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Was domestic violence.
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I'd seen jen a few days before.
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She had been fighting
with her boyfriend.
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And I said to her, "please
don't get together
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"with him tonight.
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You're just not
in the right head."
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But they did get together.
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And her finger got broke.
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She probably went
to swing away,
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And he grabbed at her hand.
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I don't know, but she was very,
very upset and in pain.
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- We discovered that there was
a domestic incident report.
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And a lot of times
it's passionate.
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Things happen in an instant.
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People lose their temper.
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They take the physical too far.
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- Given his rough
relationship with jennifer,
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Police quickly track him down.
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- We spoke to him,
where he had an alibi.
261
00:12:44,264 --> 00:12:46,464
His alibi was confirmed.
262
00:12:46,533 --> 00:12:49,901
- We learned that he wasn't
anywhere in the area.
263
00:12:49,969 --> 00:12:53,404
Jennifer's boyfriend
ended up being ruled out.
264
00:12:53,473 --> 00:12:57,341
- Ending a lead is as
important as getting one.
265
00:12:57,410 --> 00:13:00,111
So once you eliminate him,
you know that's a route
266
00:13:00,179 --> 00:13:01,245
You don't have to go down.
267
00:13:01,314 --> 00:13:03,781
♪ ♪
268
00:13:03,850 --> 00:13:05,316
- With jen's
boyfriend ruled out,
269
00:13:05,385 --> 00:13:10,321
The next avenue to explore
is her unique side business.
270
00:13:10,390 --> 00:13:13,791
- Every performer
has a side business.
271
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They have to.
272
00:13:15,394 --> 00:13:17,595
It's expensive to
live in new york city.
273
00:13:17,663 --> 00:13:20,564
But this is where
everything happens.
274
00:13:20,633 --> 00:13:27,171
She built a business selling
marijuana to people like me.
275
00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,873
- Jen had really a
variety of clientele.
276
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She had people who
worked in the music
277
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Industry, rappers, producers.
278
00:13:34,680 --> 00:13:38,783
And it was just a lot of
her longtime friends.
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♪ ♪
280
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- By early 2001,
business was busier than ever.
281
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- I noticed an increase
in foot traffic.
282
00:13:54,667 --> 00:13:59,637
And that amount of activity
made me nervous.
283
00:13:59,705 --> 00:14:01,372
And I said to her,
284
00:14:01,441 --> 00:14:05,042
"maybe you need
a security person here."
285
00:14:05,111 --> 00:14:07,378
She thought she was safe.
286
00:14:07,447 --> 00:14:09,780
She said,
"cocaine kicks your door in
287
00:14:09,849 --> 00:14:11,715
"in the middle of the night.
288
00:14:11,717 --> 00:14:13,451
Marijuana doesn't."
289
00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:19,123
♪ ♪
290
00:14:19,192 --> 00:14:20,891
- Jen's friends
offer up what they know
291
00:14:20,961 --> 00:14:23,261
About the other people who
were at jennifer's apartment
292
00:14:23,329 --> 00:14:26,330
That night,
starting with trey helliwell,
293
00:14:26,399 --> 00:14:30,000
Who was there with his
girlfriend, rosemond dane.
294
00:14:30,070 --> 00:14:33,271
- Trey met rosemond
on new year's eve
295
00:14:33,339 --> 00:14:35,673
In the british virgin islands.
296
00:14:35,741 --> 00:14:37,875
And they hit it off.
297
00:14:37,944 --> 00:14:42,480
They went to
new york city in early may.
298
00:14:42,548 --> 00:14:45,817
And he left me
a message the day he died.
299
00:14:45,885 --> 00:14:48,019
He said, "back on mainland.
300
00:14:48,087 --> 00:14:50,221
"hoping to get up
to boston to see you.
301
00:14:50,289 --> 00:14:51,922
I'll call you
when I know more."
302
00:14:51,992 --> 00:14:55,860
But trey and I never had
the opportunity to speak.
303
00:14:55,929 --> 00:14:59,697
♪ ♪
304
00:14:59,765 --> 00:15:04,035
- Trey died, but by a miracle,
rosemond survived.
305
00:15:04,103 --> 00:15:05,970
Both appear to have been
in the wrong place
306
00:15:06,039 --> 00:15:08,239
At the wrong time.
307
00:15:08,308 --> 00:15:10,374
The other survivor,
anthony veader,
308
00:15:10,376 --> 00:15:13,777
Who dialed 911,
is still unable to talk.
309
00:15:13,779 --> 00:15:17,781
But detectives speak
to those close to him.
310
00:15:17,783 --> 00:15:20,251
- Acquaintances
and friends of his
311
00:15:20,319 --> 00:15:24,188
Told us anthony veader
was both a friend,
312
00:15:24,257 --> 00:15:29,427
Customer, and the hairdresser
for jennifer stahl.
313
00:15:29,495 --> 00:15:31,462
♪ ♪
314
00:15:31,531 --> 00:15:34,465
We discovered from speaking
to other people
315
00:15:34,534 --> 00:15:37,134
That knew jennifer there was
always somebody there to answer
316
00:15:37,203 --> 00:15:39,270
The door besides her.
317
00:15:39,339 --> 00:15:41,906
It wasn't like
they were armed,
318
00:15:41,974 --> 00:15:44,742
But she had another person
with her in the apartment.
319
00:15:44,810 --> 00:15:47,378
On this day,
it happened to be stephen king
320
00:15:47,447 --> 00:15:49,480
Handling security at the door.
321
00:15:49,549 --> 00:15:53,217
♪ ♪
322
00:15:53,286 --> 00:15:57,755
- Stephen king was
a longtime friend of jen's.
323
00:15:57,824 --> 00:16:01,659
- He was helping out jen
for extra money.
324
00:16:01,727 --> 00:16:02,960
He had a girlfriend.
325
00:16:03,028 --> 00:16:07,231
And they were expecting
a baby.
326
00:16:07,300 --> 00:16:09,433
- Jen was always
helping friends.
327
00:16:09,435 --> 00:16:13,204
If anybody needed work, she
would find work for them.
328
00:16:13,272 --> 00:16:17,375
So steve came
to play a security role.
329
00:16:17,443 --> 00:16:20,277
- By all accounts, stephen
was just a father-to-be trying
330
00:16:20,346 --> 00:16:22,980
To provide for his family.
331
00:16:23,048 --> 00:16:25,249
Investigators are very
interested in the building
332
00:16:25,251 --> 00:16:28,519
Security, however,
and make a discovery.
333
00:16:28,521 --> 00:16:33,457
- We came across a security
camera on the second floor.
334
00:16:33,459 --> 00:16:37,194
And we were able
to pull the video.
335
00:16:37,263 --> 00:16:40,297
- The videotape showed
two male blacks
336
00:16:40,366 --> 00:16:43,734
Walking up the stairs.
337
00:16:43,736 --> 00:16:45,869
- One of whom had dreads.
338
00:16:45,871 --> 00:16:48,072
The other had like
real close-cropped hair.
339
00:16:48,141 --> 00:16:49,873
At the time,
they're very calm.
340
00:16:49,875 --> 00:16:53,911
They don't appear to be rushed,
anxious, anything.
341
00:16:53,980 --> 00:16:58,349
And then when they're leaving,
they seem to be in a hurry.
342
00:16:58,418 --> 00:17:01,185
And you know, one of them
is carrying a backpack
343
00:17:01,254 --> 00:17:05,256
Over his shoulder,
which didn't appear when they
344
00:17:05,324 --> 00:17:06,990
Were coming up the stairs.
345
00:17:06,992 --> 00:17:11,362
♪ ♪
346
00:17:11,431 --> 00:17:13,531
- Key is the backpack that they
didn't have when they went up.
347
00:17:13,599 --> 00:17:17,835
We believe we were
looking at a robbery
348
00:17:17,903 --> 00:17:20,137
Or a deal that went bad.
349
00:17:20,206 --> 00:17:21,973
The fact that jennifer's
not taped
350
00:17:22,041 --> 00:17:24,575
Kind of fits that scenario,
that she is having
351
00:17:24,644 --> 00:17:27,478
To deal with the two perps
352
00:17:27,547 --> 00:17:30,748
Possibly telling them
where the stash is.
353
00:17:30,816 --> 00:17:32,616
- When you see the close
proximity from the 911 call
354
00:17:32,685 --> 00:17:34,452
And those people
running down the stairs,
355
00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:38,589
I know that those are
the two people that did it.
356
00:17:38,591 --> 00:17:42,460
These two perpetrators, they
tried to execute five people.
357
00:17:42,528 --> 00:17:45,997
They're armed
and a danger to society.
358
00:17:46,065 --> 00:17:51,068
♪ ♪
359
00:17:51,070 --> 00:17:52,670
- Coming up...
360
00:17:52,738 --> 00:17:56,407
- She said he was
standing over the victims,
361
00:17:56,476 --> 00:17:59,543
Shooting them in the
back of the head.
362
00:17:59,612 --> 00:18:01,945
- George clinton's group,
they were afraid
363
00:18:01,947 --> 00:18:03,447
He would retaliate if
they got involved
364
00:18:03,449 --> 00:18:04,882
With the investigation.
365
00:18:04,951 --> 00:18:11,923
♪ ♪
366
00:18:15,994 --> 00:18:18,696
[tense bassy music]
367
00:18:18,764 --> 00:18:22,700
♪ ♪
368
00:18:22,768 --> 00:18:25,669
- Detectives now believe the
mass shooting in the apartment
369
00:18:25,738 --> 00:18:27,605
Above new york's
famous carnegie deli
370
00:18:27,673 --> 00:18:29,573
Could be a robbery gone wrong.
371
00:18:29,575 --> 00:18:32,109
They released the security
video to the public,
372
00:18:32,178 --> 00:18:34,045
Which triggers hundreds
of tips.
373
00:18:34,113 --> 00:18:37,181
And our detectives follow up
on every lead that comes in.
374
00:18:37,250 --> 00:18:39,817
♪ ♪
375
00:18:39,885 --> 00:18:42,053
- The witness saw a car
parked around the corner
376
00:18:42,121 --> 00:18:43,320
From the crime scene.
377
00:18:43,389 --> 00:18:44,822
People don't park
in that area.
378
00:18:44,890 --> 00:18:46,390
They know better than that.
379
00:18:46,458 --> 00:18:48,792
That's suspicious for us,
especially so close
380
00:18:48,861 --> 00:18:51,562
To the proximity
of the apartment.
381
00:18:51,631 --> 00:18:52,696
So we checked.
382
00:18:52,765 --> 00:18:55,633
And there was a summons
issued also on the car.
383
00:18:55,701 --> 00:18:58,369
- The registered car
owner was an individual
384
00:18:58,437 --> 00:19:02,172
By the name of andre smith.
385
00:19:02,242 --> 00:19:03,374
It's just one
of many tickets issued
386
00:19:03,442 --> 00:19:04,842
In midtown that night,
387
00:19:04,910 --> 00:19:07,078
But we never know what
might become important
388
00:19:07,146 --> 00:19:08,846
Later in the investigation.
389
00:19:08,914 --> 00:19:11,081
You keep it in the file
so that when you have names
390
00:19:11,083 --> 00:19:12,750
Pop up, you see if it matches.
391
00:19:12,818 --> 00:19:19,624
♪ ♪
392
00:19:21,293 --> 00:19:22,793
A few days after
the shooting,
393
00:19:22,795 --> 00:19:25,729
We finally got a call
from the hospital.
394
00:19:25,798 --> 00:19:29,967
Anthony and rosemond
are recovered enough to talk.
395
00:19:30,035 --> 00:19:31,502
- And I was like, oh great.
396
00:19:31,570 --> 00:19:32,936
We have a good chance
that they were going
397
00:19:32,938 --> 00:19:34,204
To be able to give
us information that
398
00:19:34,274 --> 00:19:38,609
Would help us solve this case.
399
00:19:38,678 --> 00:19:42,279
Rosemond and anthony
told us that they
400
00:19:42,348 --> 00:19:43,847
Were in the apartment
with jennifer.
401
00:19:43,916 --> 00:19:44,848
And they were all hanging out.
402
00:19:44,917 --> 00:19:47,851
♪ ♪
403
00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,755
- Anthony veader said he
was drinking a glass of wine
404
00:19:51,824 --> 00:19:55,259
And socializing
with jennifer that day.
405
00:19:55,327 --> 00:19:57,761
♪ ♪
406
00:19:57,830 --> 00:19:59,830
- And then somebody rang
the buzzer.
407
00:19:59,899 --> 00:20:01,399
[buzzer buzzes]
408
00:20:01,467 --> 00:20:03,400
Stephen king
answered the buzzer.
409
00:20:03,469 --> 00:20:05,969
And the person downstairs
said it was sean.
410
00:20:05,971 --> 00:20:07,939
♪ ♪
411
00:20:08,007 --> 00:20:11,875
- Stephen king yelled to
jennifer stahl, "it's sean."
412
00:20:11,944 --> 00:20:13,777
And she said, "let him in."
413
00:20:13,846 --> 00:20:18,849
♪ ♪
414
00:20:18,918 --> 00:20:22,920
Jennifer stahl was
completely confident to let
415
00:20:22,988 --> 00:20:27,758
Sean and another individual
come into her apartment.
416
00:20:27,827 --> 00:20:29,693
♪ ♪
417
00:20:29,695 --> 00:20:34,332
It shows that they knew each
other, jennifer and sean.
418
00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,700
- But the second person
is unknown to them.
419
00:20:36,769 --> 00:20:39,503
♪ ♪
420
00:20:39,572 --> 00:20:41,238
- As soon as
the two perpetrators
421
00:20:41,306 --> 00:20:45,242
Entered the apartment, they
announced it was a robbery.
422
00:20:45,310 --> 00:20:48,512
They pulled a gun out.
423
00:20:48,514 --> 00:20:51,682
- Rosemond described how
she tried to get away.
424
00:20:51,751 --> 00:20:54,918
She ran for the
doorway and was pulled
425
00:20:54,987 --> 00:20:57,388
Back by the second person
426
00:20:57,456 --> 00:20:58,856
And thrown against the wall.
427
00:20:58,924 --> 00:21:03,594
♪ ♪
428
00:21:03,663 --> 00:21:06,497
- They told everybody
to get on the ground.
429
00:21:06,565 --> 00:21:08,599
One of them started
duct-taping people
430
00:21:08,668 --> 00:21:10,934
As they laid face down
on the living room floor.
431
00:21:11,003 --> 00:21:14,938
And the other
grabbed jennifer,
432
00:21:15,007 --> 00:21:19,309
Took her into the studio.
433
00:21:19,379 --> 00:21:21,712
Rosemond dane heard her say,
434
00:21:21,781 --> 00:21:23,280
"just take what you want,
please.
435
00:21:23,349 --> 00:21:24,948
Just don't hurt anybody."
436
00:21:24,950 --> 00:21:26,483
And she repeated that.
437
00:21:26,552 --> 00:21:27,751
"don't hurt anybody."
438
00:21:27,820 --> 00:21:30,954
♪ ♪
439
00:21:31,023 --> 00:21:33,624
The witnesses stated
they heard a gunshot.
440
00:21:33,693 --> 00:21:36,594
[gunshot]
441
00:21:36,662 --> 00:21:38,329
- Two witnesses
were face down.
442
00:21:38,397 --> 00:21:40,998
They didn't get a good look at
the person who was behind them
443
00:21:41,066 --> 00:21:42,599
Doing the shooting.
444
00:21:42,668 --> 00:21:45,036
- They heard another
gunshot and another gunshot.
445
00:21:45,104 --> 00:21:47,404
[gunshots]
446
00:21:47,406 --> 00:21:48,972
They were expecting to die,
both of them.
447
00:21:49,041 --> 00:21:51,575
♪ ♪
448
00:21:51,577 --> 00:21:54,778
- Anthony told us
that he gets shot.
449
00:21:54,847 --> 00:21:55,680
[gunshot]
450
00:21:55,748 --> 00:21:58,516
But the bullet didn't
penetrate the skull.
451
00:21:58,584 --> 00:22:01,018
So he plays dead.
452
00:22:01,086 --> 00:22:02,820
♪ ♪
453
00:22:02,888 --> 00:22:07,624
Now rosemond knows that
she's going to be next.
454
00:22:07,693 --> 00:22:09,927
- She said if it was the
last thing that she did,
455
00:22:09,995 --> 00:22:12,396
She wanted to see
the face of the person
456
00:22:12,465 --> 00:22:14,097
Who was going to kill her.
457
00:22:14,099 --> 00:22:17,267
And she turned her head
as the shot was fired...
458
00:22:17,269 --> 00:22:19,002
[gunshot]
459
00:22:19,071 --> 00:22:21,238
Which allowed the bullet
to just graze her skull
460
00:22:21,307 --> 00:22:23,941
And saved her life.
461
00:22:24,009 --> 00:22:27,010
Almost immediately after,
the two perpetrators
462
00:22:27,079 --> 00:22:28,145
Had fled the apartment.
463
00:22:28,213 --> 00:22:31,482
♪ ♪
464
00:22:31,550 --> 00:22:36,119
And that's
when anthony called 911.
465
00:22:36,189 --> 00:22:40,023
Rosemond was clearly
distraught and overcome
466
00:22:40,092 --> 00:22:41,492
By what had happened.
467
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,562
She saw her boyfriend,
trey, was motionless,
468
00:22:45,631 --> 00:22:46,930
Lying on the floor.
469
00:22:46,999 --> 00:22:48,832
And then she ran out
of the apartment.
470
00:22:48,901 --> 00:22:51,268
And that's where we found her.
471
00:22:51,337 --> 00:22:53,571
♪ ♪
472
00:22:53,573 --> 00:22:59,576
[sirens wailing,
horns honking]
473
00:22:59,645 --> 00:23:02,680
- We went and saw
rosemond in the hospital.
474
00:23:02,748 --> 00:23:04,948
Unfortunately,
it was the first time
475
00:23:04,950 --> 00:23:07,851
That my sister
and I had met her.
476
00:23:07,853 --> 00:23:08,853
She just kept saying,
"I'm sorry.
477
00:23:08,921 --> 00:23:10,053
"I'm so sorry.
478
00:23:10,122 --> 00:23:12,422
I'm sorry.
I'm so sorry."
479
00:23:12,492 --> 00:23:14,491
She knew
that we had a huge loss.
480
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,928
And she had a huge loss too.
481
00:23:17,997 --> 00:23:20,131
Obviously,
she was still in shock.
482
00:23:20,199 --> 00:23:21,531
We all were.
483
00:23:21,601 --> 00:23:22,933
But she'd been through
the worst of it.
484
00:23:23,002 --> 00:23:26,370
♪ ♪
485
00:23:26,438 --> 00:23:28,171
- While rosemond
processes her grief,
486
00:23:28,173 --> 00:23:30,808
We focus on our prime suspect,
a man we only
487
00:23:30,876 --> 00:23:34,812
Know by the first name, sean.
488
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,415
- They released
the name sean in the news.
489
00:23:38,484 --> 00:23:41,384
My friend called me and said,
"mich,
490
00:23:41,454 --> 00:23:43,020
I know who could
have done this."
491
00:23:43,088 --> 00:23:49,960
♪ ♪
492
00:23:55,099 --> 00:23:58,369
[tense bassy music]
493
00:23:58,437 --> 00:24:02,039
[dramatic music]
494
00:24:02,107 --> 00:24:04,074
- A few days after
the carnegie deli massacre,
495
00:24:04,143 --> 00:24:06,710
The two survivors
are awake and talking.
496
00:24:06,779 --> 00:24:08,512
And they've given
the investigators
497
00:24:08,581 --> 00:24:12,983
Their best lead, the first name
of one of the shooters, sean.
498
00:24:13,052 --> 00:24:14,651
♪ ♪
499
00:24:14,653 --> 00:24:17,654
- They released
the name sean in the news.
500
00:24:17,723 --> 00:24:20,657
My friend called me and said,
"mich,
501
00:24:20,726 --> 00:24:24,427
"I have this résumé from
a friend of jen's,
502
00:24:24,429 --> 00:24:27,030
A guy named sean salley."
503
00:24:27,032 --> 00:24:30,467
She told me that jen suggested
that sean salley
504
00:24:30,535 --> 00:24:33,003
Give her his résumé.
505
00:24:33,072 --> 00:24:34,071
He was looking for a job.
506
00:24:34,139 --> 00:24:36,974
And my friend worked
in the music industry.
507
00:24:37,042 --> 00:24:39,843
I wasn't sure if it was
going to lead to anything,
508
00:24:39,912 --> 00:24:41,611
But I had
an appointment to meet
509
00:24:41,681 --> 00:24:43,947
With the homicide detectives.
510
00:24:44,016 --> 00:24:46,817
So I brought
the résumé to them.
511
00:24:46,886 --> 00:24:50,020
♪ ♪
512
00:24:50,089 --> 00:24:56,059
- From the physical copy
of sean salley's résumé,
513
00:24:56,128 --> 00:24:58,795
We learned that
sean salley was a roadie
514
00:24:58,797 --> 00:25:03,934
For the george clinton band,
p-funk, funkadelic.
515
00:25:04,003 --> 00:25:05,903
We made an educated guess
516
00:25:05,971 --> 00:25:08,272
That he was the person
who purchased
517
00:25:08,340 --> 00:25:10,540
Marijuana for the band.
518
00:25:10,610 --> 00:25:14,578
And that's how he knew
jennifer stahl.
519
00:25:14,647 --> 00:25:17,615
We were able
to speak to members
520
00:25:17,617 --> 00:25:20,117
Of the group who knew him.
521
00:25:20,185 --> 00:25:22,119
They said that as a roadie
he helped
522
00:25:22,187 --> 00:25:24,221
Them set up
for concerts when they
523
00:25:24,290 --> 00:25:27,090
Were traveling on the road.
524
00:25:27,159 --> 00:25:29,627
- A year or two years prior
to the murders,
525
00:25:29,629 --> 00:25:32,529
Sean assaulted another
member of the crew.
526
00:25:32,597 --> 00:25:35,165
And he was asked to leave.
527
00:25:35,234 --> 00:25:39,936
George clinton's group saw
sean as a violent individual.
528
00:25:40,005 --> 00:25:42,839
Apparently george clinton
was scared (bleep) of him.
529
00:25:42,908 --> 00:25:45,075
That's the vibe we got.
530
00:25:45,144 --> 00:25:46,644
[sirens wailing]
531
00:25:46,712 --> 00:25:49,146
- A violent reputation
is a red flag.
532
00:25:49,214 --> 00:25:51,615
So lieutenant parrino
checks whether salley
533
00:25:51,617 --> 00:25:53,216
Has a rap sheet.
534
00:25:53,218 --> 00:25:54,685
- And he was arrested
in about three
535
00:25:54,753 --> 00:25:56,219
Or four different states.
536
00:25:56,288 --> 00:25:58,221
♪ ♪
537
00:25:58,290 --> 00:26:00,457
And there was robbery
and weapons possession,
538
00:26:00,525 --> 00:26:02,359
Which, of course,
is something that we'd
539
00:26:02,427 --> 00:26:03,961
Be very interested in.
540
00:26:04,029 --> 00:26:07,064
♪ ♪
541
00:26:07,132 --> 00:26:09,633
- His police records
include sean salley's
542
00:26:09,702 --> 00:26:12,235
Fingerprints and mug shots.
543
00:26:12,304 --> 00:26:16,974
- I noticed sean salley had
dreadlocks and remembered one
544
00:26:17,042 --> 00:26:20,744
Of the witnesses that saw
two black men,
545
00:26:20,812 --> 00:26:25,516
One of whom had dreads,
leaving in a hurry.
546
00:26:25,584 --> 00:26:27,584
We have the security video.
547
00:26:27,653 --> 00:26:29,520
And we compare them
to this person.
548
00:26:29,588 --> 00:26:32,756
And I'm like, oh, man.
549
00:26:32,758 --> 00:26:34,525
That looks like
it could be a match.
550
00:26:34,593 --> 00:26:37,761
♪ ♪
551
00:26:37,830 --> 00:26:39,529
- Matching salley to one
of the men in the video,
552
00:26:39,598 --> 00:26:42,966
Plus his violent past, has
detectives confident they're
553
00:26:42,968 --> 00:26:44,335
On the right track.
554
00:26:44,403 --> 00:26:45,936
But we still need
physical evidence
555
00:26:46,005 --> 00:26:48,205
Putting him inside
jennifer's apartment
556
00:26:48,273 --> 00:26:49,472
At the time of the crime.
557
00:26:49,542 --> 00:26:52,943
♪ ♪
558
00:26:53,011 --> 00:26:55,912
- There were fingerprints
found on the duct tape
559
00:26:55,981 --> 00:26:58,549
That was used
to bind trey helliwell's
560
00:26:58,617 --> 00:27:01,685
And rosemond dane's hands.
561
00:27:01,754 --> 00:27:03,954
- And we asked
the lab to compare it
562
00:27:04,023 --> 00:27:07,157
To sean salley's fingerprints.
563
00:27:07,159 --> 00:27:12,195
We were able to match the
patent print to sean salley.
564
00:27:12,197 --> 00:27:16,233
♪ ♪
565
00:27:16,301 --> 00:27:20,003
- We learned
from sean salley's résumé
566
00:27:20,005 --> 00:27:23,206
That he was staying
in newark, new jersey,
567
00:27:23,275 --> 00:27:24,708
At a friend's house.
568
00:27:24,710 --> 00:27:26,143
♪ ♪
569
00:27:26,211 --> 00:27:28,379
- When we get there,
unfortunately,
570
00:27:28,447 --> 00:27:31,314
Sean salley wasn't
at the residence in newark.
571
00:27:31,383 --> 00:27:32,716
♪ ♪
572
00:27:32,785 --> 00:27:34,818
- In the video,
we saw the duffel bag,
573
00:27:34,887 --> 00:27:36,987
Which was consistent
with something
574
00:27:37,056 --> 00:27:41,091
To hold the cash and the
marijuana they had stolen.
575
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,962
We conducted a search
warrant of that house.
576
00:27:45,030 --> 00:27:48,932
Neither marijuana nor any
cash proceeds of the robbery,
577
00:27:48,934 --> 00:27:51,935
If you will, was recovered.
578
00:27:52,004 --> 00:27:55,205
But we did find
pieces of paper,
579
00:27:55,274 --> 00:27:57,207
Boarding documents
from plane tickets,
580
00:27:57,276 --> 00:27:59,810
Other information
that connected
581
00:27:59,878 --> 00:28:02,579
Sean salley to that house.
582
00:28:03,215 --> 00:28:06,349
It showed that sean salley
had been staying there
583
00:28:06,418 --> 00:28:10,120
At the time of the homicide.
584
00:28:10,189 --> 00:28:14,024
We interviewed everybody
connected to that house.
585
00:28:14,093 --> 00:28:16,059
And the detectives
zeroed in on the person
586
00:28:16,128 --> 00:28:17,894
Who was the renter
of the house
587
00:28:17,963 --> 00:28:19,730
Of an individual named dwayne.
588
00:28:19,798 --> 00:28:21,331
♪ ♪
589
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,467
Dwayne did look a little
bit like the second person
590
00:28:24,469 --> 00:28:28,004
On the video.
591
00:28:28,073 --> 00:28:32,008
- I think that we might
have the second guy here.
592
00:28:32,077 --> 00:28:33,844
- A background search
reveals that dwayne
593
00:28:33,912 --> 00:28:35,912
Had a criminal history
and was currently
594
00:28:35,981 --> 00:28:37,648
On parole in new jersey.
595
00:28:37,716 --> 00:28:42,385
Detectives have enough to
bring him in for questioning.
596
00:28:42,454 --> 00:28:45,155
- Dwayne came back to the
midtown north precinct.
597
00:28:45,224 --> 00:28:48,558
Officers went through the
contents of his belongings.
598
00:28:48,627 --> 00:28:52,663
And they found the name
dre and a phone number
599
00:28:52,731 --> 00:28:54,998
On one of the papers
in the wallet.
600
00:28:55,067 --> 00:28:56,433
I don't know that name.
601
00:28:56,501 --> 00:28:59,069
But detectives photocopied
all of the papers
602
00:28:59,137 --> 00:29:01,338
And file it with
all the information
603
00:29:01,406 --> 00:29:04,774
And all the details of the
case that have been coming in.
604
00:29:04,776 --> 00:29:07,344
- He denied knowing
sean salley.
605
00:29:07,412 --> 00:29:09,680
We knew that was
impossible since we
606
00:29:09,748 --> 00:29:11,648
Had physical
evidence connecting
607
00:29:11,717 --> 00:29:13,516
Sean salley to that location.
608
00:29:13,518 --> 00:29:15,952
So we knew that
dwayne was lying.
609
00:29:16,021 --> 00:29:19,322
When someone lies like that
about such a basic fact,
610
00:29:19,391 --> 00:29:23,226
An incriminating fact,
we were thinking,
611
00:29:23,228 --> 00:29:25,395
This is the other
person who committed
612
00:29:25,464 --> 00:29:29,333
The robbery with sean.
613
00:29:29,401 --> 00:29:31,068
- Coming up...
614
00:29:31,136 --> 00:29:32,936
- We determine he's making
telephone calls
615
00:29:32,938 --> 00:29:35,238
On his way down south.
616
00:29:35,307 --> 00:29:39,042
We found proceeds
from the robbery,
617
00:29:39,111 --> 00:29:41,578
Including some marijuana,
but we missed him
618
00:29:41,647 --> 00:29:43,614
By literally minutes.
619
00:29:43,682 --> 00:29:45,915
- We thought he might
never be caught.
620
00:29:45,985 --> 00:29:49,452
And that was so debilitating.
621
00:29:49,521 --> 00:29:55,292
♪ ♪
622
00:29:59,063 --> 00:30:02,599
[tense bassy music]
623
00:30:02,667 --> 00:30:06,202
[sirens wailing]
624
00:30:06,271 --> 00:30:08,004
- While searching
for salley at his residence,
625
00:30:08,073 --> 00:30:09,372
Detectives noticed
his roommate,
626
00:30:09,441 --> 00:30:11,608
Dwayne, seems to
match the second man
627
00:30:11,676 --> 00:30:12,809
In the security video.
628
00:30:12,878 --> 00:30:15,478
After he caught
in an incriminating lie,
629
00:30:15,547 --> 00:30:18,681
We believe we might have
our second shooter.
630
00:30:18,751 --> 00:30:20,617
♪ ♪
631
00:30:20,686 --> 00:30:23,686
- He was questioned about
his whereabouts on that day.
632
00:30:23,756 --> 00:30:25,154
♪ ♪
633
00:30:25,156 --> 00:30:29,526
And he said he was
refereeing a basketball game
634
00:30:29,595 --> 00:30:31,294
At a local school.
635
00:30:31,363 --> 00:30:33,496
We talked to
the people at that school.
636
00:30:33,498 --> 00:30:37,835
And, sure enough,
they accounted for his alibi.
637
00:30:37,903 --> 00:30:40,904
We weren't expecting that.
638
00:30:40,973 --> 00:30:44,474
But then we go back
over his alibi.
639
00:30:44,543 --> 00:30:48,311
The timestamp on the
videotape indicated when
640
00:30:48,380 --> 00:30:51,180
The two entered the apartment.
641
00:30:51,182 --> 00:30:54,517
And we determined
when his game ended,
642
00:30:54,519 --> 00:30:57,054
Dwayne might have been
able to get into manhattan
643
00:30:57,122 --> 00:31:00,824
To conduct these murders.
644
00:31:00,892 --> 00:31:03,593
- So that was good enough
to pique our interest.
645
00:31:03,662 --> 00:31:05,228
♪ ♪
646
00:31:05,296 --> 00:31:07,698
Still doesn't mean it's
the shooter, right?
647
00:31:07,766 --> 00:31:10,000
Witness statements,
confessions,
648
00:31:10,068 --> 00:31:13,636
Forensic evidence-- that's
locking somebody in.
649
00:31:13,705 --> 00:31:17,540
And he's not locked in
in my opinion.
650
00:31:17,542 --> 00:31:19,376
- Detectives pressed
dwayne for information
651
00:31:19,444 --> 00:31:21,879
About where salley went
after leaving his house,
652
00:31:21,947 --> 00:31:24,447
But he insists
he does not know.
653
00:31:24,516 --> 00:31:26,549
The interrogation
gets us nowhere.
654
00:31:26,551 --> 00:31:28,985
And we can't arrest
dwayne without a stronger
655
00:31:29,054 --> 00:31:30,720
Connection to the murders.
656
00:31:30,722 --> 00:31:34,224
But if he's released, dwayne
could tip off salley or flee.
657
00:31:34,293 --> 00:31:37,895
- He also admitted
that he'd been in manhattan.
658
00:31:37,963 --> 00:31:40,363
Because he was on
parole in new jersey,
659
00:31:40,365 --> 00:31:43,166
He had to have permission
to cross state lines.
660
00:31:43,234 --> 00:31:47,804
So his parole officer asked
the detectives to detain him.
661
00:31:47,873 --> 00:31:50,306
♪ ♪
662
00:31:50,375 --> 00:31:51,908
- We now have dwayne on ice.
663
00:31:51,976 --> 00:31:55,478
And then detectives canvassing
the area around sean salley's
664
00:31:55,547 --> 00:31:58,114
Residence questioned
a teenage neighbor who says
665
00:31:58,183 --> 00:31:59,782
She knows him and his friends.
666
00:31:59,784 --> 00:32:02,252
♪ ♪
667
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:03,253
- She volunteered to come back
668
00:32:03,322 --> 00:32:05,388
To the midtown north squad
with us.
669
00:32:05,457 --> 00:32:07,724
♪ ♪
670
00:32:07,792 --> 00:32:09,393
And we showed her the video.
671
00:32:09,461 --> 00:32:12,462
She just matter-of-factly
pointed at the video.
672
00:32:12,530 --> 00:32:14,531
She said, "that's sean.
673
00:32:14,599 --> 00:32:16,333
And that's dre."
674
00:32:16,401 --> 00:32:20,803
♪ ♪
675
00:32:20,873 --> 00:32:23,440
- It's not the name we
were expecting to hear,
676
00:32:23,508 --> 00:32:26,943
But it sounds familiar.
677
00:32:27,012 --> 00:32:30,413
- One of the
detectives remembered
678
00:32:30,482 --> 00:32:34,617
Seeing the name dre
in dwayne's wallet
679
00:32:34,619 --> 00:32:36,219
At midtown north station.
680
00:32:36,288 --> 00:32:39,957
He went back and ran that
phone number and the name
681
00:32:40,025 --> 00:32:42,992
Andre smith.
682
00:32:42,994 --> 00:32:44,795
- When parrino hears
that name,
683
00:32:44,863 --> 00:32:48,431
He's sure he's seen it before.
684
00:32:48,500 --> 00:32:51,068
- We look back at the
parking violations.
685
00:32:51,136 --> 00:32:53,470
And we see that there was
a car that was summoned
686
00:32:53,538 --> 00:32:56,106
Around the time
of the crime that
687
00:32:56,174 --> 00:32:59,142
Was registered to andre smith.
688
00:32:59,144 --> 00:33:01,377
That's a major victory.
689
00:33:01,446 --> 00:33:05,849
That puts him in the
vicinity of the carnegie deli
690
00:33:05,917 --> 00:33:08,184
The night of the homicide.
691
00:33:08,253 --> 00:33:11,421
♪ ♪
692
00:33:11,490 --> 00:33:13,456
- When detectives run
a background check,
693
00:33:13,525 --> 00:33:16,292
They discover andre smith
has a history of robbery
694
00:33:16,361 --> 00:33:19,496
And weapons charges.
695
00:33:19,564 --> 00:33:22,599
Parrino goes to the address
listed on andre smith's car
696
00:33:22,667 --> 00:33:26,003
Registration located only
three miles from sean salley's
697
00:33:26,071 --> 00:33:28,005
New jersey residence.
698
00:33:28,073 --> 00:33:29,606
- We visited him on Friday.
699
00:33:29,674 --> 00:33:33,276
We've been working this
case now for eight days.
700
00:33:33,278 --> 00:33:36,713
Andre's girlfriend was
there, but we did not make
701
00:33:36,781 --> 00:33:38,515
Any contact with andre smith.
702
00:33:38,583 --> 00:33:40,817
We said,
"could you have andre call us?
703
00:33:40,885 --> 00:33:42,685
We'd like to talk to him."
704
00:33:42,687 --> 00:33:44,120
♪ ♪
705
00:33:44,189 --> 00:33:45,822
We're looking
to see what happens.
706
00:33:45,891 --> 00:33:47,757
Like if he runs, that would
be a good indication, too.
707
00:33:47,826 --> 00:33:51,093
But giving a call and coming in
was not something I expected.
708
00:33:51,095 --> 00:33:54,230
♪ ♪
709
00:33:54,299 --> 00:33:55,798
He came in voluntarily.
710
00:33:55,867 --> 00:33:58,901
It was like two days later.
711
00:33:58,971 --> 00:34:00,103
- We went in.
712
00:34:00,172 --> 00:34:02,605
And we started talking
to andre smith.
713
00:34:02,674 --> 00:34:04,574
♪ ♪
714
00:34:04,643 --> 00:34:07,244
The guy's denying he was there,
denying he was in the area,
715
00:34:07,312 --> 00:34:09,512
Denying knowing sean salley.
716
00:34:09,581 --> 00:34:11,181
♪ ♪
717
00:34:11,249 --> 00:34:13,950
Well, tell me, where were you?
718
00:34:14,019 --> 00:34:16,152
Give me an alibi.
719
00:34:16,154 --> 00:34:17,954
Andre didn't really
want to give anything.
720
00:34:18,023 --> 00:34:20,390
♪ ♪
721
00:34:20,458 --> 00:34:22,993
People are usually passionate.
And they show emotion.
722
00:34:23,061 --> 00:34:25,062
They're full of angst,
723
00:34:25,130 --> 00:34:27,564
Because they want
to clear their name.
724
00:34:27,632 --> 00:34:30,267
♪ ♪
725
00:34:30,269 --> 00:34:32,735
This guy, you'd have
to check him for a pulse.
726
00:34:32,737 --> 00:34:34,637
He was flatlined...
727
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:37,007
♪ ♪
728
00:34:37,075 --> 00:34:40,777
Not worried,
not sweating, nothing.
729
00:34:40,845 --> 00:34:43,079
♪ ♪
730
00:34:43,147 --> 00:34:46,349
- We showed him the crime
scene photos, the still photos
731
00:34:46,417 --> 00:34:48,417
From the video that were made.
732
00:34:48,419 --> 00:34:50,186
We showed him everything.
733
00:34:50,255 --> 00:34:53,790
The guy's denying it's him,
just deny, deny, deny.
734
00:34:53,859 --> 00:34:55,692
That's what he did.
735
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,094
- While you're gathering
information from him,
736
00:34:58,162 --> 00:35:02,699
You're trying to connect dots
and other information outside.
737
00:35:02,767 --> 00:35:05,168
- We obtained these criminal
records, fingerprints,
738
00:35:05,237 --> 00:35:06,837
Things like that.
739
00:35:06,905 --> 00:35:08,905
There was another
palm print from one
740
00:35:08,973 --> 00:35:11,674
Of the pieces of duct tape
taken from the scene that
741
00:35:11,743 --> 00:35:12,942
Didn't belong to sean salley.
742
00:35:12,944 --> 00:35:17,246
♪ ♪
743
00:35:17,316 --> 00:35:22,385
Those fingerprints, when they
came back, they make a match.
744
00:35:22,454 --> 00:35:24,320
That's a great thing.
745
00:35:24,389 --> 00:35:26,122
Then you got the right guy.
746
00:35:26,191 --> 00:35:27,690
♪ ♪
747
00:35:27,759 --> 00:35:29,392
- But in the
interrogation room,
748
00:35:29,461 --> 00:35:32,929
Andre is still saying nothing.
749
00:35:32,997 --> 00:35:36,866
Detective irma rivera says,
"would you mind if I just
750
00:35:36,935 --> 00:35:38,468
Went in and talked to him?"
751
00:35:38,537 --> 00:35:40,269
I'm like, "irma, please go
in there and give it a crack."
752
00:35:40,271 --> 00:35:43,640
♪ ♪
753
00:35:43,708 --> 00:35:47,844
- I went in,
and I sat down with him.
754
00:35:47,912 --> 00:35:49,545
♪ ♪
755
00:35:49,614 --> 00:35:51,581
I just said to him,
"you remind me of my brother.
756
00:35:51,650 --> 00:35:55,518
"and if you were my brother,
I would tell him to be honest,
757
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,322
You know, rather than lie."
758
00:35:59,391 --> 00:36:01,157
- She's leaning
across the table
759
00:36:01,225 --> 00:36:05,828
And speaking to him closely.
760
00:36:05,830 --> 00:36:08,498
And all of a sudden,
his eyes come up.
761
00:36:08,566 --> 00:36:11,668
And he's listening
to her and paying attention.
762
00:36:11,736 --> 00:36:14,136
So he's engaged.
763
00:36:14,206 --> 00:36:15,038
I was like, "eureka.
764
00:36:15,106 --> 00:36:18,140
He has a pulse."
765
00:36:18,142 --> 00:36:20,443
- I told him, "sean salley's
going to say that you're
766
00:36:20,511 --> 00:36:22,312
"the one who did the shootings.
767
00:36:22,380 --> 00:36:25,915
So it's best that we
hear your story first."
768
00:36:25,984 --> 00:36:26,849
And I think he just trusted me.
769
00:36:26,851 --> 00:36:29,552
♪ ♪
770
00:36:29,554 --> 00:36:33,623
And then he said, "ok."
771
00:36:33,692 --> 00:36:37,327
- And then andre said, "I
didn't want this to happen.
772
00:36:37,395 --> 00:36:39,996
He messed up."
773
00:36:40,065 --> 00:36:42,532
I said, "who messed up?"
774
00:36:42,601 --> 00:36:46,436
And he said,
"the other guy, sean.
775
00:36:46,504 --> 00:36:47,937
This wasn't the way it
was supposed to go down."
776
00:36:48,006 --> 00:36:54,844
♪ ♪
777
00:37:01,052 --> 00:37:04,821
[tense bassy music]
778
00:37:04,889 --> 00:37:08,558
[dramatic music]
779
00:37:08,627 --> 00:37:10,360
- The man we believe
was salley's accomplice,
780
00:37:10,428 --> 00:37:13,329
Andre smith, claims
he doesn't even know him.
781
00:37:13,398 --> 00:37:15,765
But nearly 24 hours
after voluntarily
782
00:37:15,834 --> 00:37:17,834
Walking into the
midtown north precinct,
783
00:37:17,902 --> 00:37:19,836
Andre is finally talking.
784
00:37:19,904 --> 00:37:22,372
♪ ♪
785
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:23,906
- I spoke to him
about his baby.
786
00:37:23,975 --> 00:37:25,842
He was telling me how
he didn't have enough money
787
00:37:25,910 --> 00:37:27,844
For diapers or for milk.
788
00:37:27,912 --> 00:37:28,811
♪ ♪
789
00:37:28,813 --> 00:37:31,848
- Irma is fantastic
at doing interviews.
790
00:37:31,916 --> 00:37:35,352
She was able to kind
of touch his emotions.
791
00:37:35,420 --> 00:37:36,486
- We switched.
792
00:37:36,554 --> 00:37:37,787
And mcneely went back in.
793
00:37:37,856 --> 00:37:40,222
And then he just
started talking to him.
794
00:37:40,224 --> 00:37:42,725
♪ ♪
795
00:37:42,794 --> 00:37:44,994
- And he was unemployed,
and he didn't have money.
796
00:37:45,063 --> 00:37:47,864
And sean came
to him and said, "hey,
797
00:37:47,932 --> 00:37:51,868
"I got a place in midtown,
like a hippie chick.
798
00:37:51,936 --> 00:37:53,636
"and there's money
and weed there.
799
00:37:53,638 --> 00:37:55,005
"you know, we can
kind of do that place
800
00:37:55,073 --> 00:37:56,138
And come into some money."
801
00:37:56,140 --> 00:38:01,344
♪ ♪
802
00:38:01,413 --> 00:38:04,881
- On the evening of may 10th,
andre smith and sean salley
803
00:38:04,883 --> 00:38:07,583
Drive into midtown manhattan
with a plan
804
00:38:07,652 --> 00:38:12,154
To rob jennifer stahl.
805
00:38:12,156 --> 00:38:16,492
- Andre told me initially
he went into the music studio
806
00:38:16,561 --> 00:38:19,629
With jennifer
to retrieve the marijuana.
807
00:38:19,631 --> 00:38:21,831
Sean started
to duct tape everybody.
808
00:38:21,900 --> 00:38:23,899
He wasn't doing it
fast enough,
809
00:38:23,901 --> 00:38:28,905
So andre came out, gave him the
gun, and they switched roles.
810
00:38:28,973 --> 00:38:31,908
Andre started duct-taping
the rest of the victims.
811
00:38:31,976 --> 00:38:33,743
♪ ♪
812
00:38:33,812 --> 00:38:36,512
- And when he got to rosemond,
813
00:38:36,581 --> 00:38:38,114
Andre said he heard
a shot go off.
814
00:38:38,183 --> 00:38:39,782
[gunshot]
815
00:38:39,851 --> 00:38:42,585
Andre said to him,
"what did you do?
816
00:38:42,654 --> 00:38:44,687
Why did you shoot her?"
817
00:38:44,689 --> 00:38:46,923
- Sean said, "she knows me."
818
00:38:46,991 --> 00:38:53,596
And then andre saw sean salley
was standing over the victims
819
00:38:53,665 --> 00:38:55,265
Shooting them
in the back of the head.
820
00:38:55,333 --> 00:38:58,535
[gunshots]
821
00:38:58,537 --> 00:39:01,604
And then they ultimately
retreated back to newark
822
00:39:01,673 --> 00:39:03,906
And then went
their separate ways.
823
00:39:03,908 --> 00:39:06,142
♪ ♪
824
00:39:06,211 --> 00:39:08,945
- Andre claims he never saw
or spoke with sean salley
825
00:39:09,013 --> 00:39:10,947
Again after returning
to newark that night.
826
00:39:11,015 --> 00:39:14,350
With andre smith in custody,
finding sean salley becomes
827
00:39:14,419 --> 00:39:15,952
Our number one priority.
828
00:39:16,020 --> 00:39:17,087
♪ ♪
829
00:39:17,155 --> 00:39:22,224
- From sean salley's résumé,
we were able to discover really
830
00:39:22,226 --> 00:39:24,360
Just about everybody he knew.
831
00:39:24,429 --> 00:39:29,766
And so we asked them, "if he
calls you, please contact us."
832
00:39:29,834 --> 00:39:34,237
♪ ♪
833
00:39:34,305 --> 00:39:36,172
It was five weeks later when
834
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:40,977
Someone who was a friend
of his called us and said,
835
00:39:40,979 --> 00:39:43,980
"he called me
and wants me to wire money."
836
00:39:44,048 --> 00:39:45,848
- From his friend's number,
we traced
837
00:39:45,850 --> 00:39:48,184
It back to a calling card.
838
00:39:48,252 --> 00:39:51,321
- And we determined he's
making telephone calls
839
00:39:51,389 --> 00:39:54,090
From pay phones
on his way from new york
840
00:39:54,158 --> 00:39:57,159
Down south to new orleans.
841
00:39:57,229 --> 00:40:03,733
♪ ♪
842
00:40:03,735 --> 00:40:05,301
- Detectives
discover that salley
843
00:40:05,369 --> 00:40:08,805
Is still making calls on
the card from a local motel.
844
00:40:08,873 --> 00:40:10,406
[sirens wailing]
845
00:40:10,475 --> 00:40:14,043
- It looked like salley
had abandoned that motel.
846
00:40:14,045 --> 00:40:18,614
We found in that motel
proceeds from the robbery,
847
00:40:18,683 --> 00:40:22,018
Including some marijuana
and his belongings
848
00:40:22,086 --> 00:40:24,153
And identification.
849
00:40:24,222 --> 00:40:29,159
It was clear that we missed
him by literally minutes.
850
00:40:29,227 --> 00:40:30,427
He left in a hurry.
851
00:40:30,495 --> 00:40:32,762
He left everything there.
852
00:40:32,831 --> 00:40:36,566
And we knew that he knew
we were looking for him.
853
00:40:36,634 --> 00:40:39,702
♪ ♪
854
00:40:39,770 --> 00:40:42,505
He ceased using the phone card.
855
00:40:42,573 --> 00:40:46,175
And we had no live leads.
856
00:40:46,244 --> 00:40:49,111
So we did what we often did
in these cases,
857
00:40:49,180 --> 00:40:52,548
Which was pitch the story
to "america's most wanted."
858
00:40:52,550 --> 00:40:53,783
♪ ♪
859
00:40:53,852 --> 00:40:57,286
- On July 14, 2001,
the carnegie deli
860
00:40:57,288 --> 00:40:59,155
Murder story airs nationwide.
861
00:40:59,224 --> 00:41:02,458
And the response is immediate.
862
00:41:02,526 --> 00:41:05,061
- A tip came in within
an hour, maybe even less,
863
00:41:05,129 --> 00:41:07,563
Saying sean salley was
living in a shelter
864
00:41:07,632 --> 00:41:08,998
In miami-dade county, florida.
865
00:41:09,067 --> 00:41:11,868
♪ ♪
866
00:41:11,936 --> 00:41:15,071
- Miami-dade police
department send detectives
867
00:41:15,139 --> 00:41:18,207
To this homeless shelter.
868
00:41:18,276 --> 00:41:20,209
And shortly thereafter,
869
00:41:20,278 --> 00:41:23,079
Sean salley
walked through the door.
870
00:41:23,147 --> 00:41:27,417
♪ ♪
871
00:41:27,485 --> 00:41:30,119
- And finally, he was arrested.
872
00:41:30,121 --> 00:41:31,521
♪ ♪
873
00:41:31,589 --> 00:41:34,590
- We thought he might
never be caught.
874
00:41:34,659 --> 00:41:38,828
And that was so debilitating.
875
00:41:38,896 --> 00:41:43,633
So when we learned
sean salley was arrested,
876
00:41:43,701 --> 00:41:47,537
There was collective relief.
877
00:41:47,605 --> 00:41:51,073
♪ ♪
878
00:41:51,075 --> 00:41:54,177
- Ada steven nuzzi flies
to miami to interrogate him.
879
00:41:54,245 --> 00:41:58,180
- He admitted
participating in the robbery.
880
00:41:58,249 --> 00:42:00,650
He said he didn't mean to,
but he accidentally
881
00:42:00,718 --> 00:42:05,622
Shot jennifer stahl but
claimed that andre smith
882
00:42:05,690 --> 00:42:09,859
Shot the other individuals.
883
00:42:09,928 --> 00:42:14,030
He described how
he met andre smith.
884
00:42:14,098 --> 00:42:18,034
He at first went to dwayne
looking for a partner
885
00:42:18,102 --> 00:42:20,302
To do this robbery with.
886
00:42:20,371 --> 00:42:23,839
Dwayne couldn't do it but said,
"I have a friend named dre.
887
00:42:23,908 --> 00:42:25,475
I'll hook you up with him."
888
00:42:25,543 --> 00:42:28,378
♪ ♪
889
00:42:28,446 --> 00:42:32,148
Sean salley and andre smith
both were charged with murder
890
00:42:32,216 --> 00:42:34,917
In the second degree
for the three murders,
891
00:42:34,986 --> 00:42:38,354
Attempted murder in the second
degree for the two survivors,
892
00:42:38,422 --> 00:42:42,559
And then weapons and underlying
robbery charge as well.
893
00:42:42,627 --> 00:42:45,861
- On June 18, 2002,
both defendants
894
00:42:45,930 --> 00:42:49,098
Are convicted on all counts.
895
00:42:49,167 --> 00:42:51,367
But for the victims'
family and friends,
896
00:42:51,435 --> 00:42:55,071
The verdicts provide
little consolation.
897
00:42:55,073 --> 00:42:59,908
- Leaving stephen king's
daughter without a father,
898
00:42:59,978 --> 00:43:05,715
Taking away rosemond's
boyfriend, trey--
899
00:43:05,783 --> 00:43:09,986
Who was he to make
that decision?
900
00:43:10,054 --> 00:43:13,389
- I remember andre standing
up and looking us in the eye
901
00:43:13,457 --> 00:43:14,657
And apologizing.
902
00:43:14,726 --> 00:43:17,293
Sean salley never did.
903
00:43:17,361 --> 00:43:19,395
- Sean salley
and andre smith are
904
00:43:19,463 --> 00:43:22,332
Each sentenced to 120 years
to life for the murders
905
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,334
And attempted murders.
906
00:43:25,403 --> 00:43:27,603
- She still had years ahead.
907
00:43:27,605 --> 00:43:28,938
Who knows what she
would have done?
908
00:43:29,006 --> 00:43:30,406
Who knows what she
would have created?
909
00:43:30,474 --> 00:43:31,874
[light guitar music]
910
00:43:31,876 --> 00:43:33,476
- Now when I come across
"dirty dancing"
911
00:43:33,544 --> 00:43:35,878
On some channel,
912
00:43:35,946 --> 00:43:39,682
It's just like
a little visit from jen.
913
00:43:39,751 --> 00:43:46,255
♪ ♪