1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:28,202 --> 00:00:30,552 [tense music] 4 00:00:34,686 --> 00:00:36,775 [crowd cheering] 5 00:00:38,516 --> 00:00:41,302 [host] Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome[inaudible] 6 00:00:41,476 --> 00:00:43,173 [crowd applauding] 7 00:00:43,347 --> 00:00:46,611 [host speaks inaudibly] 8 00:00:48,874 --> 00:00:51,703 [host] Ladies and gentlemen, Kai Greene! 9 00:00:51,877 --> 00:00:54,750 [crowd cheering] 10 00:01:02,018 --> 00:01:04,847 [crowd screaming inaudibly] 11 00:01:07,893 --> 00:01:10,461 [Kai] Sometimes it's hard to remember everything about yourself 12 00:01:11,245 --> 00:01:13,856 and put bits and pieces together, you see glimpses. 13 00:01:14,900 --> 00:01:16,337 Some you want to rewind. 14 00:01:17,425 --> 00:01:18,861 Some fast forward. 15 00:01:20,036 --> 00:01:22,212 And some, you want to forget. 16 00:01:22,386 --> 00:01:24,084 [crowd cheering] 17 00:01:29,785 --> 00:01:31,613 [Kai] I was once a bodybuilder. 18 00:01:31,787 --> 00:01:33,745 I competed at the highest level 19 00:01:33,919 --> 00:01:35,791 on the top stages in the world. 20 00:01:36,313 --> 00:01:38,185 Bodybuilding was more than a profession. 21 00:01:38,359 --> 00:01:39,708 It was my calling. 22 00:01:39,882 --> 00:01:41,188 It was my life. 23 00:01:46,671 --> 00:01:48,499 For years and decades, 24 00:01:48,673 --> 00:01:52,112 I competed with the expectation of being able to do very well. 25 00:01:52,286 --> 00:01:55,506 However, there are things that are outside of your control. 26 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,813 What's up, bodybuilding sports fans? 27 00:01:57,987 --> 00:01:59,902 It is 2015. 28 00:02:00,076 --> 00:02:04,211 and I am of the realization that I am... 29 00:02:06,343 --> 00:02:08,084 ...not going to be allowed to compete. 30 00:02:09,433 --> 00:02:11,087 You don't get to this point... 31 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:13,742 ...and just stop. 32 00:02:13,916 --> 00:02:16,179 [sobs] It doesn't happen like that. 33 00:02:19,051 --> 00:02:20,444 This is not a movie. 34 00:02:21,053 --> 00:02:22,490 This is not a movie. 35 00:02:22,664 --> 00:02:24,535 This is...[inhales] this is my life. 36 00:02:24,709 --> 00:02:27,625 [crowd cheering] 37 00:02:27,799 --> 00:02:30,193 [dramatic music] 38 00:02:37,374 --> 00:02:42,162 [Kai] Bodybuilding helped me recognize my power. 39 00:02:42,640 --> 00:02:46,514 And recognizing it, you create anything you wanted, 40 00:02:46,688 --> 00:02:48,472 even the impossible 41 00:02:48,646 --> 00:02:51,127 because as sure as I was able to look in the mirror 42 00:02:51,301 --> 00:02:53,129 and see myself at 297 pounds. 43 00:02:53,303 --> 00:02:56,350 There was a time that wasn't the reality. 44 00:02:56,524 --> 00:03:00,223 In fact, what it would take to go from where I started 45 00:03:00,397 --> 00:03:03,313 and literally have to teach yourself how to the impossible. 46 00:03:03,922 --> 00:03:05,924 Because it's always impossible until you do it. 47 00:03:06,098 --> 00:03:09,014 [crowd cheers] Kai! Kai! Kai! 48 00:03:09,189 --> 00:03:11,582 [inspirational music] 49 00:04:36,493 --> 00:04:38,756 [lively music] 50 00:04:43,979 --> 00:04:45,197 [man] Can everybody stay with me? 51 00:04:45,372 --> 00:04:46,503 Camera rolling. 52 00:04:47,069 --> 00:04:48,592 Kai Greene documentary. 53 00:04:48,766 --> 00:04:49,724 Take one. 54 00:04:50,681 --> 00:04:52,117 Marker. 55 00:04:53,728 --> 00:04:56,600 [interviewer] Who are you? I mean, how would you describe yourself? 56 00:04:56,774 --> 00:04:58,428 [dramatic music] 57 00:04:58,602 --> 00:05:00,256 [Kai] My name is Kai Greene. 58 00:05:00,430 --> 00:05:02,780 I'm a professional athlete, 59 00:05:02,954 --> 00:05:05,479 entrepreneur, painter, 60 00:05:05,653 --> 00:05:08,308 influencer, aspiring actor 61 00:05:08,786 --> 00:05:11,311 and now a comic book artist. 62 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:17,708 The Chronicles of King Kai is a story 63 00:05:17,882 --> 00:05:20,842 that I have been writing in my head since I was a kid. 64 00:05:21,930 --> 00:05:23,975 It's more than just a fantasy. 65 00:05:24,149 --> 00:05:26,761 It represents the story of my life. 66 00:05:26,935 --> 00:05:30,417 And I'm finally ready to share this with the world. 67 00:05:32,027 --> 00:05:34,377 [interviewer] But you're most known as a bodybuilder, correct? 68 00:05:35,857 --> 00:05:37,641 [Mike] Kai is a huge name in bodybuilding. 69 00:05:37,815 --> 00:05:38,816 He's the people's champ. 70 00:05:38,990 --> 00:05:40,209 People still talk about him, 71 00:05:40,383 --> 00:05:41,645 you know, he still has a big following. 72 00:05:41,819 --> 00:05:43,168 [Mike] When Kai burst onto the scene, 73 00:05:43,343 --> 00:05:44,735 he was a different kind of bodybuilder. 74 00:05:44,909 --> 00:05:46,650 Most other bodybuilders were showing off 75 00:05:46,824 --> 00:05:49,261 fancy cars and fancy homes. Kai had none of that. 76 00:05:49,436 --> 00:05:52,047 When I saw Kai, I did see a hunger 77 00:05:52,221 --> 00:05:55,398 that he really wanted to be something more than where he was. 78 00:05:55,572 --> 00:06:00,708 He was just total tunnel vision of what he was set out to do. 79 00:06:00,882 --> 00:06:02,405 And I think he started to realize, 80 00:06:02,579 --> 00:06:04,189 "I got what it takes to really be 81 00:06:04,364 --> 00:06:06,409 one of the best bodybuilders in the world." 82 00:06:06,583 --> 00:06:08,672 And he was determined to be the best in the world. 83 00:06:09,891 --> 00:06:12,459 [interviewer] So, Kai, where were you born? 84 00:06:13,764 --> 00:06:17,159 [Kai] I was born Leslie Green in Brooklyn, New York. 85 00:06:18,378 --> 00:06:20,075 The city was a different place back then. 86 00:06:20,902 --> 00:06:23,513 Only the strong were meant to survive. 87 00:06:24,732 --> 00:06:26,951 I was raised without a father and lived 88 00:06:27,125 --> 00:06:28,997 the early years of my life 89 00:06:29,171 --> 00:06:32,130 with my biological mother and younger brother. 90 00:06:32,696 --> 00:06:35,177 [interviewer] What is your earliest memory from your childhood? 91 00:06:36,526 --> 00:06:38,093 [clicks tongue] Hmm. 92 00:06:44,055 --> 00:06:46,188 [baby crying] 93 00:06:46,362 --> 00:06:49,234 [sad music] 94 00:06:52,499 --> 00:06:56,154 [Kai] I remember being a little boy standing there crying 95 00:06:56,328 --> 00:06:59,027 and remember my little brother's eyes 96 00:06:59,636 --> 00:07:03,553 while I watched my biological parent... 97 00:07:05,686 --> 00:07:08,471 ...fighting with a man 98 00:07:08,645 --> 00:07:13,041 that was going to be escorted out of the house in handcuffs. 99 00:07:14,216 --> 00:07:16,044 That image is still very real 100 00:07:16,218 --> 00:07:18,873 because there's other times in my life, 101 00:07:19,047 --> 00:07:21,179 when I can see the little boy 102 00:07:21,702 --> 00:07:22,920 crying. 103 00:07:23,530 --> 00:07:27,838 And then see myself escorted out of the house... 104 00:07:28,752 --> 00:07:30,928 ...with my hands in handcuffs. 105 00:07:35,716 --> 00:07:38,196 My biological parent was very strong... 106 00:07:39,154 --> 00:07:41,417 ...very aggressive, very aggressive. 107 00:07:41,896 --> 00:07:43,724 And some people would say violent. 108 00:07:44,768 --> 00:07:46,074 Yes. She would hit. 109 00:07:46,248 --> 00:07:47,554 And she didn't care. 110 00:07:48,380 --> 00:07:50,774 [Kai's mother speaking intelligibly] 111 00:07:50,948 --> 00:07:53,429 You don't have any respect for your mother. 112 00:07:53,603 --> 00:07:55,170 [unintelligible] 113 00:07:58,913 --> 00:08:01,002 [muted] 114 00:08:01,872 --> 00:08:04,048 [indistinct chatter] 115 00:08:04,222 --> 00:08:06,268 [papers shuffling] 116 00:08:07,269 --> 00:08:08,923 [phone ringing] 117 00:08:09,097 --> 00:08:11,621 I remember once being a little boy in a police precinct, 118 00:08:11,795 --> 00:08:14,450 and I remember seeing a bunch of confusion. 119 00:08:14,624 --> 00:08:17,235 I hear papers shuffling. 120 00:08:18,715 --> 00:08:20,543 I don't know where to look. 121 00:08:21,413 --> 00:08:22,414 Phones are ringing. 122 00:08:23,111 --> 00:08:24,634 It's still raining. 123 00:08:25,853 --> 00:08:27,419 So many voices. 124 00:08:28,333 --> 00:08:31,554 I hear metal on metal, his handcuffs tighten. 125 00:08:32,294 --> 00:08:34,035 Someone's trying to talk to us. 126 00:08:35,776 --> 00:08:37,821 I remember talking to strange men. 127 00:08:38,387 --> 00:08:41,129 Of course, now I know these men were detectives. 128 00:08:42,086 --> 00:08:43,871 They wanted to see it for themselves. 129 00:08:45,046 --> 00:08:46,264 They needed to see. 130 00:08:48,310 --> 00:08:49,485 See what she'd done. 131 00:08:51,269 --> 00:08:54,621 Little boy in a police precinct does have to go to court 132 00:08:54,795 --> 00:08:56,579 because biological parent was arrested, 133 00:08:56,753 --> 00:09:00,104 I would eventually become the state's star witness 134 00:09:00,278 --> 00:09:01,541 against my biological mother 135 00:09:01,715 --> 00:09:04,369 in a child abuse and neglect case. 136 00:09:05,109 --> 00:09:07,242 I wish I could look back on that little boy 137 00:09:07,416 --> 00:09:09,549 and say he was up for the challenge. 138 00:09:10,245 --> 00:09:12,856 Ready to become the master of his own destiny. 139 00:09:13,596 --> 00:09:14,989 But he was a kid, 140 00:09:15,163 --> 00:09:17,818 a kid whose world was crumbling around him. 141 00:09:18,296 --> 00:09:19,689 He was scared. 142 00:09:21,256 --> 00:09:22,213 [glass shattering] 143 00:09:22,387 --> 00:09:24,041 "I didn't need sons. 144 00:09:24,215 --> 00:09:25,695 I needed warriors." 145 00:09:26,914 --> 00:09:29,569 That was the last thing my mother said to me. 146 00:09:29,743 --> 00:09:31,658 [gentle sad music continues] 147 00:09:36,793 --> 00:09:39,491 [Kai] My mother was very angry, very upset. 148 00:09:39,666 --> 00:09:42,669 You wouldn't know at that age that things are gonna happen 149 00:09:42,843 --> 00:09:44,279 and you're never gonna be able to go back. 150 00:09:44,453 --> 00:09:46,368 And it's never gonna be right. 151 00:09:47,021 --> 00:09:48,457 But, yeah, 152 00:09:48,631 --> 00:09:50,590 my brother and I became a ward of the state. 153 00:09:53,941 --> 00:09:56,073 Just like the boy and the police precinct, 154 00:09:56,247 --> 00:09:59,686 everybody in life has to find their own direction. 155 00:09:59,860 --> 00:10:01,644 At some point, you kind of just have to identify 156 00:10:01,818 --> 00:10:04,212 for yourself, "What happens to me?" 157 00:10:04,691 --> 00:10:09,130 The hero begins to make his way and save his world. 158 00:10:09,304 --> 00:10:11,306 [rain pattering] 159 00:10:14,309 --> 00:10:16,790 [interviewer] So how did you end up in the correctional facility? 160 00:10:17,921 --> 00:10:19,357 [school bell ringing] 161 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,404 [Kai] I really didn't see myself as a tough guy. 162 00:10:22,578 --> 00:10:25,755 I wasn't one of those kids that was carrying guns and stuff. 163 00:10:25,929 --> 00:10:27,670 I was the kid that had roaches in my house, 164 00:10:27,844 --> 00:10:29,803 and I was the kid that didn't want people 165 00:10:29,977 --> 00:10:31,065 to know I had roaches in my house. 166 00:10:31,239 --> 00:10:33,284 And you wish that your... 167 00:10:34,459 --> 00:10:38,507 ...vulnerability wasn't so clean and easy to see. 168 00:10:38,681 --> 00:10:40,291 But you can't hide. You can't run. 169 00:10:40,465 --> 00:10:42,380 And now, because it is what it is 170 00:10:42,554 --> 00:10:44,513 you've got people standing there want to tease you. 171 00:10:44,687 --> 00:10:46,646 You get into a lot of fights, 172 00:10:46,820 --> 00:10:48,952 but you are labeled a behavior problem in class. 173 00:10:50,214 --> 00:10:52,260 [tense music] 174 00:10:52,434 --> 00:10:54,175 [Kai] There was a task force that was in the school 175 00:10:54,349 --> 00:10:56,917 that was trying to do something about some of the gang activity. 176 00:10:57,091 --> 00:10:58,919 I carried a knife with me. 177 00:10:59,093 --> 00:11:00,877 I had gotten into an altercation 178 00:11:01,051 --> 00:11:03,010 earlier that day with the teacher, 179 00:11:03,184 --> 00:11:06,100 and I was accused of assault. 180 00:11:10,495 --> 00:11:12,715 They asked me if I had a weapon. 181 00:11:13,368 --> 00:11:15,196 I did hold the knife. 182 00:11:20,331 --> 00:11:22,290 I was going to be charged with assault 183 00:11:22,464 --> 00:11:25,119 and carrying a weapon. 184 00:11:26,860 --> 00:11:30,124 I can remember that image of a man 185 00:11:30,298 --> 00:11:32,517 being led out in handcuffs. 186 00:11:32,692 --> 00:11:35,869 That image is so real, so real. 187 00:11:36,347 --> 00:11:39,350 I've seen that in a few times, but in different ways. 188 00:11:39,873 --> 00:11:44,616 And the image of a man being led out in handcuffs. 189 00:11:45,356 --> 00:11:46,357 It was me. 190 00:11:50,927 --> 00:11:53,669 I didn't face charges for that. I just did that going upstate. 191 00:11:53,843 --> 00:11:57,455 That was my introduction into institutional facility living. 192 00:11:57,629 --> 00:11:59,631 Yeah, I discovered that I was there 193 00:11:59,806 --> 00:12:03,200 and definitely not, um, that wasn't the place for me. 194 00:12:03,374 --> 00:12:04,549 [interviewer] Were you scared? 195 00:12:04,724 --> 00:12:08,249 Yes. Which was revealing of the point 196 00:12:08,423 --> 00:12:12,166 that I wasn't as tough as I thought I was. [laughs] 197 00:12:12,340 --> 00:12:14,603 [suspenseful music] 198 00:12:24,482 --> 00:12:26,136 [Kai] When getting into the institutional facility, 199 00:12:26,310 --> 00:12:27,703 one thing you did was you learned 200 00:12:27,877 --> 00:12:29,836 that you don't laugh in the beginning, 201 00:12:30,010 --> 00:12:33,100 because sometimes that will present itself as weakness 202 00:12:33,274 --> 00:12:35,929 and you can't expose any vulnerability at all. 203 00:12:36,103 --> 00:12:39,367 You don't sing, you don't dance. 204 00:12:40,020 --> 00:12:42,805 I remember walking through the gym. 205 00:12:42,979 --> 00:12:45,112 There were a lot of people that were playing, 206 00:12:45,286 --> 00:12:47,288 but then there were these other area where they weren't. 207 00:12:47,462 --> 00:12:50,682 They were just six guys, one of them took off his shirt 208 00:12:50,857 --> 00:12:52,859 and I noticed he had a mark on him, 209 00:12:53,033 --> 00:12:56,123 it looked like a triangle with circles. 210 00:12:56,776 --> 00:12:57,994 That's a hurt. 211 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:00,344 A hurt with somebody you did not want to be. 212 00:13:00,518 --> 00:13:03,391 Somebody that was weak, somebody that could not fight 213 00:13:03,565 --> 00:13:05,436 and somebody that would not fight. 214 00:13:06,002 --> 00:13:09,701 That mark was a mark that was described as an iron. 215 00:13:09,876 --> 00:13:11,660 [steam hissing] 216 00:13:11,834 --> 00:13:13,357 [Kai] These guys were held down 217 00:13:13,531 --> 00:13:17,100 and they dropped that hot iron... on them. 218 00:13:17,274 --> 00:13:18,972 But if you ain't able to fight, 219 00:13:19,537 --> 00:13:21,670 then that can happen to you. And no matter what happens, 220 00:13:21,844 --> 00:13:24,804 I will not walk out of here with a brand. 221 00:13:26,893 --> 00:13:28,068 Did they try you? Yeah! 222 00:13:29,373 --> 00:13:30,940 Did you win every fight? No. 223 00:13:31,114 --> 00:13:33,073 One thing you don't like to do 224 00:13:33,247 --> 00:13:35,989 is to put yourself in a position where you are alone, 225 00:13:36,163 --> 00:13:37,860 because they will try you. 226 00:13:39,731 --> 00:13:42,038 One day you're doing a cleaning detail. 227 00:13:42,647 --> 00:13:45,607 When I first got there, you didn't even go to the bathroom. 228 00:13:45,781 --> 00:13:48,044 I once held my stool, 229 00:13:48,218 --> 00:13:51,395 for two weeks for fear of being caught 230 00:13:51,569 --> 00:13:53,833 in the bathroom alone. 231 00:13:55,835 --> 00:13:57,488 The floors are painted green 232 00:13:57,662 --> 00:14:01,057 and the walls are cold white tiles. 233 00:14:01,231 --> 00:14:02,972 Then you put the cleaning agent on 234 00:14:03,146 --> 00:14:05,714 and you start scrubbing and singing and... 235 00:14:07,063 --> 00:14:08,804 ...and then the scene just slowly changes. 236 00:14:09,892 --> 00:14:11,633 Your singing has distracted you. 237 00:14:12,547 --> 00:14:13,417 You didn't see it. 238 00:14:15,245 --> 00:14:19,162 Everything that happens next will help you understand... 239 00:14:20,424 --> 00:14:23,558 ...how you learn the lessons, why you don't sing... 240 00:14:25,603 --> 00:14:27,083 ...and why you need to learn how to fight. 241 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,045 To do that would reveal weakness. 242 00:14:32,219 --> 00:14:35,004 And if you appear weak, then they will try you 243 00:14:35,178 --> 00:14:37,659 and though you are learning how to fight 244 00:14:37,833 --> 00:14:41,228 and though you are becoming masterful at it, 245 00:14:41,881 --> 00:14:44,318 there will be those fights that you don't... 246 00:14:46,755 --> 00:14:50,280 ...have really, really awesome way of reporting. 247 00:14:53,109 --> 00:14:54,502 It'd be hard to you. 248 00:14:55,198 --> 00:14:57,374 [instrumental sad music] 249 00:15:02,510 --> 00:15:04,207 [sobbing] 250 00:15:09,299 --> 00:15:11,693 I struggled to come to consciousness 251 00:15:11,867 --> 00:15:14,739 and catch why I am where I am at. 252 00:15:15,218 --> 00:15:17,351 Who are they laughing at? 253 00:15:20,876 --> 00:15:23,096 [Mike] One of the very first things I noticed were the scars 254 00:15:23,270 --> 00:15:25,185 on his face. I didn't know what it meant. 255 00:15:25,359 --> 00:15:27,361 [Rodney] He got into a fight and they gave him a buck fifty. 256 00:15:27,535 --> 00:15:30,190 A buck fifty is when they, you know, they, when they, 257 00:15:30,364 --> 00:15:32,757 they take a razor blade and they go from, 258 00:15:33,367 --> 00:15:35,543 you know, the front of your face to the back of your head. 259 00:15:35,717 --> 00:15:37,588 So buck fifty is a hundred and fifty stitches. 260 00:15:37,762 --> 00:15:39,721 [Kai] That's why you need to learn how to fight. 261 00:15:39,895 --> 00:15:41,810 Because if you don't, this would happen more 262 00:15:41,984 --> 00:15:44,160 as you walk around with a fucking sign on your back. 263 00:15:44,334 --> 00:15:46,423 Like, yo, bring this shit my way. 264 00:15:46,597 --> 00:15:49,470 And that is not gonna be tolerated. 265 00:15:50,166 --> 00:15:52,516 So, yeah, I'mma learn how to fight, man. I'mma fight. 266 00:15:52,690 --> 00:15:54,910 I'm gonna keep fighting and I'mma win. 267 00:15:55,693 --> 00:16:00,089 [sighs] 'Cause I realize I'm fighting for a lot more than just... 268 00:16:00,568 --> 00:16:01,917 [sniffles] 269 00:16:04,311 --> 00:16:06,748 This is more than just bragging rights. 270 00:16:06,922 --> 00:16:09,098 [suspenseful music] 271 00:16:20,370 --> 00:16:22,807 I did push-ups any way that I could, 272 00:16:22,982 --> 00:16:25,071 and I got to a place where I literally tried to do 273 00:16:25,245 --> 00:16:27,638 1000 push-ups a night every day. 274 00:16:27,812 --> 00:16:29,945 I would do push-ups until, like, I felt like I couldn't move. 275 00:16:34,254 --> 00:16:36,082 And I didn't just do push-ups. 276 00:16:37,561 --> 00:16:38,998 I did whatever I could do. 277 00:16:40,434 --> 00:16:41,739 Whatever I thought. 278 00:16:43,915 --> 00:16:45,743 I'd do push-ups upside down if I could, 279 00:16:45,917 --> 00:16:47,745 I'd hang off the fucking ceiling if I could. 280 00:16:51,314 --> 00:16:54,752 I felt like my anger would consume me, 281 00:16:55,231 --> 00:16:57,842 like there wasn't a place big enough on this planet... 282 00:16:59,583 --> 00:17:02,934 ...to hold the rage that I had in my heart... 283 00:17:05,111 --> 00:17:08,723 ...and I wanted to kill everything and every living thing. 284 00:17:09,289 --> 00:17:12,379 And I'll do these push-ups and I start to imagine that I can do better. 285 00:17:15,556 --> 00:17:18,689 Sometimes I could just get down and just start doing push-ups. 286 00:17:18,863 --> 00:17:21,997 [sniffles] I mean, it's these fucking push-up because that's all I can do. 287 00:17:22,171 --> 00:17:23,955 That's all I can fucking do. 288 00:17:24,608 --> 00:17:27,176 I had to grow up. and grow up fast. 289 00:17:27,350 --> 00:17:31,180 I had to leave the boy behind if I wanted to survive. 290 00:17:32,268 --> 00:17:35,793 That's when Leslie, the boy, was left behind. 291 00:17:36,794 --> 00:17:38,535 My name is Kai. 292 00:17:40,189 --> 00:17:41,756 I am, Kai. 293 00:17:41,930 --> 00:17:43,540 [exhales] 294 00:17:47,849 --> 00:17:49,416 [Kai] I was afraid I was weak. 295 00:17:49,590 --> 00:17:52,462 And I needed to be a warrior. I needed to be stronger. 296 00:17:52,636 --> 00:17:54,464 One of the ways you're able to fight 297 00:17:54,638 --> 00:17:58,251 psychologically was to look imposing. 298 00:17:58,425 --> 00:17:59,904 That's how bodybuilding helped. 299 00:18:00,079 --> 00:18:02,342 It became the thing that revealed to me 300 00:18:02,516 --> 00:18:04,822 something very important about myself. 301 00:18:04,996 --> 00:18:07,260 [suspenseful music] 302 00:18:15,006 --> 00:18:16,791 I remember a teacher. 303 00:18:17,357 --> 00:18:21,230 He complimented the fact that he saw me as being very muscular. 304 00:18:21,404 --> 00:18:25,234 He gave me a book. It almost was an encyclopedia of bodybuilding, 305 00:18:25,408 --> 00:18:27,845 and at that time in my life, I could not read 306 00:18:28,019 --> 00:18:32,241 and that book was a very intimidating book to be able to hold it. 307 00:18:32,415 --> 00:18:33,851 It looked like embracing something 308 00:18:34,025 --> 00:18:35,897 that was literally the epitome to me 309 00:18:36,071 --> 00:18:37,812 of what was impossible. 310 00:18:38,378 --> 00:18:39,596 It was more than a dream. 311 00:18:40,206 --> 00:18:43,122 It was a real vision, a vision that I manifested. 312 00:18:43,731 --> 00:18:45,776 My destiny was to become 313 00:18:45,950 --> 00:18:48,692 the best bodybuilder the world had ever seen. 314 00:18:48,866 --> 00:18:50,651 Still believing that I could compete one day, 315 00:18:50,825 --> 00:18:53,523 I just started doing what I thought I needed to do 316 00:18:53,697 --> 00:18:55,743 and that is anything. 317 00:18:55,917 --> 00:18:57,919 So I knew I was going to need a diet 318 00:18:58,093 --> 00:18:59,921 and the food that they gave you in the institutional facility 319 00:19:00,095 --> 00:19:02,445 was always soaking in butter and oil. 320 00:19:02,619 --> 00:19:06,580 It's grease. I just thought, "Okay, what is the way to diet?" 321 00:19:07,058 --> 00:19:08,669 The bread and water. 322 00:19:09,322 --> 00:19:11,628 I just feel like I still grew like that. 323 00:19:11,802 --> 00:19:13,239 I eat bread and water. 324 00:19:13,891 --> 00:19:15,458 I had started trying to learn how to read. 325 00:19:15,632 --> 00:19:17,243 I kept working out. 326 00:19:17,417 --> 00:19:19,245 The institution did not fight me. 327 00:19:19,419 --> 00:19:21,551 They started to let up and allow me 328 00:19:21,725 --> 00:19:23,814 the ability to have my bread, to have water. 329 00:19:23,988 --> 00:19:26,861 I had recognized the opportunity that had available to me, 330 00:19:27,035 --> 00:19:28,558 the work and effort that had to go 331 00:19:28,732 --> 00:19:31,126 into the letter writing and the campaign 332 00:19:31,300 --> 00:19:34,216 to get the right powers that be, 333 00:19:34,390 --> 00:19:38,089 to allow me the privilege of leaving the facility. 334 00:19:38,264 --> 00:19:40,527 [gentle piano music] 335 00:19:43,530 --> 00:19:46,533 [Kai] I was actually allowed to go and compete. 336 00:19:47,882 --> 00:19:50,624 I felt like the world had just opened up to me... 337 00:19:51,625 --> 00:19:54,497 ...and I stand there on stage with athletes, 338 00:19:54,671 --> 00:19:59,763 teenagers that had people at home vested in seeing them succeed. 339 00:19:59,937 --> 00:20:01,287 And then there was you. 340 00:20:01,461 --> 00:20:03,506 When they announced your name, 341 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,727 people really didn't respond very much at all 342 00:20:06,901 --> 00:20:10,861 because there was nobody assembled there to come in to see you. 343 00:20:11,035 --> 00:20:13,603 There's gonna be no mom, no dad, there's nobody going to be 344 00:20:13,777 --> 00:20:16,867 sitting in the audience, proud of you. 345 00:20:17,041 --> 00:20:18,173 But you were proud. 346 00:20:19,696 --> 00:20:22,221 I prepared, and I prepared, and I prepared, and I prepared it. 347 00:20:22,395 --> 00:20:25,789 I saw it in my mind over and over and over again. 348 00:20:25,963 --> 00:20:27,922 I had now become... [sniffles] 349 00:20:28,923 --> 00:20:30,881 ...those things that I dreamed about. 350 00:20:31,055 --> 00:20:33,928 I wanted to be in a place where I could... 351 00:20:34,102 --> 00:20:36,670 [sobs] focus and... 352 00:20:37,584 --> 00:20:40,108 ...really believe and commit to this idea 353 00:20:40,282 --> 00:20:43,677 that I could create my own future and possibility... 354 00:20:44,852 --> 00:20:47,768 ...of becoming something more than just this negative statistic 355 00:20:47,942 --> 00:20:50,031 or this person that could be locked away 356 00:20:50,205 --> 00:20:53,339 and I could become... [sniffles] whatever I said I want, 357 00:20:53,513 --> 00:20:57,081 even if that ability felt like it was impossible. 358 00:20:57,256 --> 00:20:58,561 I can do that. 359 00:21:02,957 --> 00:21:04,959 I was so excited I've won. 360 00:21:05,612 --> 00:21:07,918 I've won. And this seemed like something 361 00:21:08,092 --> 00:21:10,965 that I could do. I could do this. [sniffles] 362 00:21:18,712 --> 00:21:20,757 [indistinct chatter] 363 00:21:20,931 --> 00:21:23,020 [traffic humming] 364 00:21:42,562 --> 00:21:45,739 [Kai] Being a bodybuilder, you are a performer. 365 00:21:45,913 --> 00:21:49,656 Your job is to reveal your physique artistically 366 00:21:49,830 --> 00:21:52,136 and leave people in awe. 367 00:21:53,268 --> 00:21:56,706 To me, acting is a natural progression of that. 368 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,927 It's a craft I decided to take seriously. 369 00:22:00,101 --> 00:22:01,450 [inaudible] 370 00:22:01,624 --> 00:22:04,018 Your natural action might, might be 371 00:22:04,192 --> 00:22:06,237 [unintelligible] or fear, or different emotions. 372 00:22:06,412 --> 00:22:08,892 so it just lets you immediately start make choices... 373 00:22:09,066 --> 00:22:12,026 [Kai] But breaking in and actually getting roles 374 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:13,897 is a whole new challenge. 375 00:22:14,071 --> 00:22:16,117 [upbeat music] 376 00:22:19,250 --> 00:22:20,817 It's got to be that way. 377 00:22:21,514 --> 00:22:23,211 -[director] Yeah. -[man] Yeah. 378 00:22:23,385 --> 00:22:24,560 [people clapping] 379 00:22:25,300 --> 00:22:27,041 [Kai] The casting agent might only see me 380 00:22:27,215 --> 00:22:29,913 as a muscle man who is trying to act. 381 00:22:30,436 --> 00:22:32,612 Being successful in bodybuilding and social media 382 00:22:32,786 --> 00:22:36,224 allowed me to open up a few doors in Hollywood. 383 00:22:37,268 --> 00:22:38,879 One, two, fight! 384 00:22:39,532 --> 00:22:41,490 [grunting] 385 00:22:44,885 --> 00:22:47,061 [Kai] I was able to land a few roles so far. 386 00:22:47,975 --> 00:22:51,370 Stranger things was my introduction to this industry. 387 00:22:54,808 --> 00:22:55,939 Nice to meet you, Ms. Jane. 388 00:22:57,288 --> 00:22:59,421 That led to getting an agent. 389 00:22:59,595 --> 00:23:01,554 [agent over phone] Kai, they are basically guest starring roles. 390 00:23:01,728 --> 00:23:03,817 So you would be appearing in it, I don't know how many times. 391 00:23:03,991 --> 00:23:05,862 -What are we looking at doing today? -[agent] Regarding the press, 392 00:23:06,036 --> 00:23:08,212 we have Huffington Post, 393 00:23:08,387 --> 00:23:11,041 according to Annie, and also, ABC News 394 00:23:11,215 --> 00:23:13,740 that is interested in doing a feature of Kai. 395 00:23:13,914 --> 00:23:16,873 [Kai] And sure, I got a few people on my side. 396 00:23:17,047 --> 00:23:18,701 My manager and my business partners. 397 00:23:20,442 --> 00:23:22,531 But things are not always what they seem. 398 00:23:22,705 --> 00:23:25,186 [manager] Like, who would go on IMDB to find Kai? 399 00:23:25,360 --> 00:23:27,275 [agent] Mostly producers and directors. 400 00:23:27,449 --> 00:23:28,798 [Kai] What is Rihanna's star meter? 401 00:23:28,972 --> 00:23:31,714 [manager] Rihanna star meter is 1449. 402 00:23:31,888 --> 00:23:34,238 -Oh. -[manager] And, and Kai's at 61. 403 00:23:34,413 --> 00:23:37,503 -[laughter] -[agent] Google like, let's say [inaudible] Selena Gomez... 404 00:23:37,677 --> 00:23:39,330 [manager] No, the lower it is, the better. 405 00:23:39,983 --> 00:23:41,942 -What? -[manager] The lower the better. 406 00:23:42,116 --> 00:23:43,987 [manager] So your score is better than Rihanna's right now. 407 00:23:44,161 --> 00:23:45,249 [agent on phone] Yeah, yeah, hundred percent. 408 00:23:45,424 --> 00:23:47,121 -[manager] Yeah. -[laughs] 409 00:23:47,295 --> 00:23:48,383 -Okay. -[agent on phone laughs] 410 00:23:48,557 --> 00:23:49,906 -All right. -[manager laughs] 411 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,517 [Kai] I know that if I want to make 412 00:23:51,691 --> 00:23:53,344 acting into a career, 413 00:23:53,519 --> 00:23:56,217 I still have to break down some of those doors 414 00:23:56,391 --> 00:23:58,393 -and find my place. -[manager] Like, who would go on-- 415 00:23:58,567 --> 00:23:59,786 [tape rewinding] 416 00:24:03,224 --> 00:24:05,487 [Kai] After spending six years upstate, 417 00:24:05,661 --> 00:24:07,837 I was finally released in the big city. 418 00:24:08,011 --> 00:24:11,450 And just like that, I was all alone again. 419 00:24:12,233 --> 00:24:15,845 Leaving institutional facility and finding a way to make do, 420 00:24:16,019 --> 00:24:18,021 I just ended up in some interesting places. 421 00:24:18,195 --> 00:24:19,370 He had tough circumstances. 422 00:24:19,545 --> 00:24:20,850 I mean, you know, there are stories 423 00:24:21,024 --> 00:24:22,852 where he was basically living in a gym, 424 00:24:23,026 --> 00:24:25,986 eating just cans of tuna to live on for many years. 425 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,901 He was homeless, man. 426 00:24:28,075 --> 00:24:30,164 [Kai] Moving around the state with people, 427 00:24:30,338 --> 00:24:34,168 having lived in a building that was condemned. 428 00:24:34,342 --> 00:24:36,126 We didn't have electricity. 429 00:24:36,300 --> 00:24:38,955 I lived somewhere between the runaway... [chuckles] shelter, 430 00:24:39,129 --> 00:24:41,218 getting a meal in the cafeteria, 431 00:24:41,392 --> 00:24:44,221 sleeping on the train and riding everywhere in New York. 432 00:24:44,395 --> 00:24:46,528 [rails clinking] 433 00:24:46,702 --> 00:24:49,052 [Kai] The most frightening time in my experience 434 00:24:49,226 --> 00:24:50,489 is riding the train. 435 00:24:51,968 --> 00:24:54,710 [man over radio] We're gonna twenty eight. Come on, try it when you're right. 436 00:24:55,624 --> 00:24:57,583 [Kai] I'd heard in the news about people 437 00:24:57,757 --> 00:25:00,368 that were setting people on fire on the train, 438 00:25:00,542 --> 00:25:02,762 the idea of being unconscious 439 00:25:02,936 --> 00:25:06,113 and waking up to look and see a match 440 00:25:06,287 --> 00:25:08,550 seconds before you go up in flames, 441 00:25:08,724 --> 00:25:10,421 it really became a nightmare. 442 00:25:11,988 --> 00:25:14,687 I started to understand that I am not safe here. 443 00:25:14,861 --> 00:25:17,124 I ended up trying to answer the question of where to go. 444 00:25:17,298 --> 00:25:19,692 What do I do for a living? And how do I support myself? 445 00:25:19,866 --> 00:25:22,651 At sixteen, I was over two hundred pounds. 446 00:25:22,825 --> 00:25:24,958 People would mistake me for being an adult. 447 00:25:25,132 --> 00:25:28,657 And it made it easier to kind of walk into, like, 448 00:25:29,179 --> 00:25:31,878 situations that you wouldn't expect for a sixteen year old. 449 00:25:32,835 --> 00:25:36,752 On St Mark's in Astor Place. There was a runaway shelter. 450 00:25:37,536 --> 00:25:41,191 As a teenager, I remember being very frustrated and confused. 451 00:25:41,365 --> 00:25:43,672 I think I know everything, but I really don't. 452 00:25:43,846 --> 00:25:47,241 It turns out the counselor there introduces you to another guy. 453 00:25:47,415 --> 00:25:49,591 Technically, these people work as scouts. 454 00:25:49,765 --> 00:25:51,419 These guys are parasites. 455 00:25:51,593 --> 00:25:53,160 They're gonna show you, like, somethings 456 00:25:53,334 --> 00:25:55,423 on the fringes of society. 457 00:25:55,597 --> 00:25:58,469 That became the introduction into like a lot of things. 458 00:25:58,644 --> 00:26:00,428 But technically, the dancing. 459 00:26:00,602 --> 00:26:03,300 -[electronic music] -[people cheering] 460 00:26:03,474 --> 00:26:06,129 [Kai] We walked in what looked like a peep show 461 00:26:06,303 --> 00:26:08,697 and it was like, "Hey, you know, we got this guy, 462 00:26:08,871 --> 00:26:10,656 you know, he just, he just, he can dance. He's good." 463 00:26:10,830 --> 00:26:11,961 And it's like, "Oh, he's good. He's with us." 464 00:26:12,135 --> 00:26:13,049 He said, "Can he move?" 465 00:26:13,223 --> 00:26:14,007 He said, "Yeah, he can move. 466 00:26:14,181 --> 00:26:15,704 [stutters] Well, he will, 467 00:26:15,878 --> 00:26:17,053 he'll make a lot of money here." That's what he said. 468 00:26:17,227 --> 00:26:19,142 He asked me did I have a big cock. 469 00:26:21,580 --> 00:26:23,059 I wasn't prepared for that. 470 00:26:23,233 --> 00:26:24,321 I was going to go on that night. 471 00:26:24,495 --> 00:26:26,759 [suspenseful music] 472 00:26:34,636 --> 00:26:38,292 [Kai] The lights are low and in front of me. 473 00:26:38,466 --> 00:26:40,860 There's a red exit door. 474 00:26:41,730 --> 00:26:44,777 And I remember standing on that stage, 475 00:26:44,951 --> 00:26:47,344 and it's now... my turn. 476 00:26:47,518 --> 00:26:48,868 The reality here is that there's, 477 00:26:49,042 --> 00:26:50,565 there's not a lot of women. 478 00:26:50,739 --> 00:26:52,001 These are men. 479 00:26:52,175 --> 00:26:54,613 You are now the performer in this show, 480 00:26:54,787 --> 00:26:56,179 but you don't know what to do. 481 00:26:56,832 --> 00:26:59,008 [Rodney] I started stripping at 21, 482 00:26:59,182 --> 00:27:01,707 for the same reason he started stripping, money. 483 00:27:01,881 --> 00:27:03,752 But you know the consequences. 484 00:27:03,926 --> 00:27:05,493 So when a man decides he wants to strip, 485 00:27:05,667 --> 00:27:07,451 that is a calculated choice. 486 00:27:07,626 --> 00:27:10,237 Most of the guys that were in shape in the gyms did it. 487 00:27:10,411 --> 00:27:12,152 It wasn't frowned upon. 488 00:27:12,326 --> 00:27:15,416 But they do it because they have to make ends meet, to compete. 489 00:27:15,590 --> 00:27:18,158 [George] Listen, it's tough, man. Our sports not cheap. 490 00:27:18,854 --> 00:27:21,248 I remember seeing myself evolve into, 491 00:27:21,422 --> 00:27:22,858 you know, headline dancer. 492 00:27:23,511 --> 00:27:24,643 That's me. 493 00:27:25,382 --> 00:27:28,168 Wet, seduction, the slayer. 494 00:27:28,342 --> 00:27:29,822 That's my name. 495 00:27:29,996 --> 00:27:31,650 And male exotic entertainment... 496 00:27:32,825 --> 00:27:33,956 ...well, that's my game. 497 00:27:35,131 --> 00:27:36,524 They love me. 498 00:27:36,698 --> 00:27:37,568 The shame... 499 00:27:39,483 --> 00:27:40,571 ...the pain. 500 00:27:41,921 --> 00:27:43,705 ...I let them go a long time ago. 501 00:27:44,488 --> 00:27:45,968 I don't need 502 00:27:46,621 --> 00:27:48,754 to make anyone proud of me. 503 00:27:48,928 --> 00:27:51,278 I discovered that I was very easily seduced 504 00:27:51,452 --> 00:27:52,801 by the applause from the audience, 505 00:27:52,975 --> 00:27:54,324 and the approval of the audience. 506 00:27:54,498 --> 00:27:56,239 I could thrive on it. 507 00:27:56,849 --> 00:27:59,765 And you work and you do that while you still 508 00:27:59,939 --> 00:28:02,028 continue to develop yourself as an athlete. 509 00:28:02,202 --> 00:28:04,595 You have to get the experience to learn how to compete successfully. 510 00:28:04,770 --> 00:28:06,510 You can only do that by just doing it. 511 00:28:06,685 --> 00:28:09,905 it's not uncommon to find that you can, 512 00:28:10,079 --> 00:28:13,561 you know, compete in the hundreds of shows 513 00:28:13,735 --> 00:28:15,955 in ten years, you know, 514 00:28:16,129 --> 00:28:17,783 in an effort to still figure things out. 515 00:28:18,609 --> 00:28:20,394 So I got a chance to start competing. 516 00:28:20,568 --> 00:28:23,136 I competed in a lot of different organizations. 517 00:28:23,310 --> 00:28:26,182 The harder I work, the more development I saw. 518 00:28:26,356 --> 00:28:27,880 But still, I had a long way to go. 519 00:28:28,358 --> 00:28:30,056 [host] Pink is Rick McMillan. 520 00:28:30,230 --> 00:28:32,362 [Kai] I began competing with the NPC, 521 00:28:32,536 --> 00:28:34,277 the National Physique Committee, 522 00:28:34,451 --> 00:28:36,671 the most prestigious amateur organization, 523 00:28:36,845 --> 00:28:40,501 because it allowed a path to advance to the pro level 524 00:28:40,675 --> 00:28:42,982 and join the elite group of bodybuilders. 525 00:28:43,591 --> 00:28:47,203 [Rich] Kai made that transition knowing that the only path of success 526 00:28:47,377 --> 00:28:50,641 in bodybuilding was to get to the IFBB to eventually get to the Olympia. 527 00:28:50,816 --> 00:28:54,863 He made that move from going from a smaller organization to a bigger organization. 528 00:28:55,037 --> 00:28:57,344 And that was the biggest organization in the world. 529 00:28:57,518 --> 00:29:00,913 It was the IFBB, but you had to earn your right to compete 530 00:29:01,087 --> 00:29:03,437 and give you Pro Card back, but then you had to get one. 531 00:29:04,003 --> 00:29:07,093 Getting a pro card from the International Federation of Bodybuilding, 532 00:29:07,267 --> 00:29:10,966 aka the IFBB was a top honor. 533 00:29:11,619 --> 00:29:14,361 This meant that you are now a professional athlete. 534 00:29:14,535 --> 00:29:17,581 [gentle music] 535 00:29:20,541 --> 00:29:23,500 [Rich] Many bodybuilders, they do chase their Pro Card, 536 00:29:23,674 --> 00:29:25,589 and some bodybuilders either give up. 537 00:29:25,764 --> 00:29:29,811 Into the '90s and into 2000, it became a lot more difficult 538 00:29:29,985 --> 00:29:32,858 'cause the competition was just much more intense. 539 00:29:33,032 --> 00:29:35,991 To learn about Kai having difficulties 540 00:29:36,165 --> 00:29:37,558 in getting his Pro Card, 541 00:29:37,732 --> 00:29:39,865 taking many years to get the Pro Card, 542 00:29:40,039 --> 00:29:41,518 showed he had that champion mentality 543 00:29:41,692 --> 00:29:42,693 and wasn't going to give up. 544 00:29:42,868 --> 00:29:45,131 [sad music] 545 00:29:45,305 --> 00:29:47,176 [Kai] When I finally got my Pro Card, 546 00:29:47,742 --> 00:29:49,613 it felt euphoric. 547 00:29:50,484 --> 00:29:54,836 I felt like I had accomplished something that I have manifested. 548 00:29:55,402 --> 00:29:58,884 But in reality, my journey was just beginning. 549 00:30:01,451 --> 00:30:03,236 I wanted to compete and I wanted to win. 550 00:30:04,454 --> 00:30:06,935 I remember being willing to do more work 551 00:30:07,109 --> 00:30:09,677 than anybody else would be willing to do. 552 00:30:10,721 --> 00:30:13,072 Nothing was going to stop me from trying to get this. 553 00:30:13,246 --> 00:30:15,552 I'd do whatever it was that I thought I needed to do 554 00:30:15,726 --> 00:30:17,467 in order to win. 555 00:30:20,514 --> 00:30:23,299 Before I could even think of winning the top title, 556 00:30:23,473 --> 00:30:26,476 I had to face some of the best pro bodybuilders 557 00:30:26,650 --> 00:30:28,739 that were also coming up at that time. 558 00:30:29,218 --> 00:30:32,004 All were hungry, all had great genetics 559 00:30:32,178 --> 00:30:34,441 and all worked hard. 560 00:30:35,529 --> 00:30:37,313 But there was one guy. 561 00:30:37,792 --> 00:30:39,925 He got his Pro Card a year after me. 562 00:30:40,751 --> 00:30:43,058 Instantly, people took notice. 563 00:30:43,885 --> 00:30:48,629 The whole industry saw he was truly gifted... 564 00:30:49,369 --> 00:30:51,327 ...and was destined to move up the ranks. 565 00:30:51,501 --> 00:30:54,156 [drums beating] 566 00:30:58,291 --> 00:31:00,467 [dial tone] 567 00:31:03,078 --> 00:31:04,253 [agent over phone] How you doing? 568 00:31:04,427 --> 00:31:05,864 [Kai] I'm good, man. How are you? 569 00:31:06,038 --> 00:31:08,257 [agent on phone] I'm good. I'm good. I hear, uh, 570 00:31:08,431 --> 00:31:11,565 you've been getting some interesting offers 571 00:31:11,739 --> 00:31:14,176 [Kai] Remember, I've mentioned that I have a Hollywood agent now. 572 00:31:14,350 --> 00:31:17,658 I've been pushing him to lock in film and TV roles 573 00:31:17,832 --> 00:31:20,313 in the US, but it's been slow. 574 00:31:20,487 --> 00:31:22,619 I'm, however, getting offers overseas. 575 00:31:22,793 --> 00:31:24,795 [agent on phone] You know, I don't know if you should be taking 576 00:31:24,970 --> 00:31:26,885 these roles overseas to be honest. 577 00:31:27,059 --> 00:31:30,584 I don't know if that's the right choice for you right now. 578 00:31:30,758 --> 00:31:34,501 [Kai] Okay. All right. I, I, I... Okay. 579 00:31:34,675 --> 00:31:36,633 -[agent] Just mull it over, think about it and... -Yeah. 580 00:31:36,807 --> 00:31:39,332 ...and, um, you know, we'll circle back to it, 581 00:31:39,506 --> 00:31:41,725 and, and, uh, I think... 582 00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:43,684 [Kai] I have a decision to make. 583 00:31:43,858 --> 00:31:47,122 Do I stay and keep waiting for offers... 584 00:31:47,688 --> 00:31:49,472 ...or go where people want to see me 585 00:31:49,646 --> 00:31:51,474 and give me more opportunities? 586 00:31:51,648 --> 00:31:54,695 -[agent] ...as always. -Hey, likewise. Thanks again. 587 00:31:55,304 --> 00:31:57,524 -All right. -Let's just keep it working. All right. 588 00:32:04,139 --> 00:32:06,925 [funky music] 589 00:32:07,099 --> 00:32:10,145 [people speaking inaudibly] 590 00:32:10,319 --> 00:32:13,061 [Kai] Despite my agents wishes, I went to India 591 00:32:13,235 --> 00:32:15,498 to shoot the movie calledPogaru. 592 00:32:15,672 --> 00:32:17,413 It was a much needed experience 593 00:32:17,587 --> 00:32:20,416 to further my acting and to work with a crew. 594 00:32:20,590 --> 00:32:22,766 No grab. no grab... 595 00:32:22,941 --> 00:32:25,160 Acting is about finding your strength. 596 00:32:25,334 --> 00:32:27,858 like bodybuilding, sculpting a character. 597 00:32:28,772 --> 00:32:30,209 [man speaking unintelligibly] 598 00:32:30,383 --> 00:32:31,253 Hello. 599 00:32:34,561 --> 00:32:37,912 [Kai] The following year, Pogaru would open in theaters 600 00:32:38,086 --> 00:32:40,567 in the number one spot all over India. 601 00:32:42,090 --> 00:32:45,267 [director] Action! [unintelligible] 602 00:32:46,921 --> 00:32:49,750 [Kai] I've been playing and creating roles my entire life. 603 00:32:50,446 --> 00:32:52,579 Even the persona of Kai Greene, 604 00:32:52,753 --> 00:32:56,539 was built on the necessity of survival. 605 00:32:57,671 --> 00:33:00,848 It was the role of a warrior who continued to fight. 606 00:33:01,631 --> 00:33:02,850 [grunting] 607 00:33:06,419 --> 00:33:09,639 [men speaking unintelligibly over TV] 608 00:33:11,946 --> 00:33:13,556 [tape rewinding] 609 00:33:13,730 --> 00:33:16,211 [rails clinking] 610 00:33:16,385 --> 00:33:18,431 [electronic music] 611 00:33:18,605 --> 00:33:20,999 [Kai] I was still dancing. It didn't always go so well. 612 00:33:21,173 --> 00:33:24,437 I had just had a not so extraordinary performance, 613 00:33:24,611 --> 00:33:26,787 but I did make a whole lot of tips that night. 614 00:33:26,961 --> 00:33:28,180 So at the end of the day, 615 00:33:28,354 --> 00:33:29,703 you came in a fifty dollar deficit. 616 00:33:29,877 --> 00:33:31,661 Translation. I made no money that night. 617 00:33:31,835 --> 00:33:34,360 This was serious. If we didn't dance, we don't eat. 618 00:33:34,534 --> 00:33:36,275 The gentleman comes up to me and he gives me a business card. 619 00:33:36,449 --> 00:33:40,322 He says, um, "I'd like to book you to perform, 620 00:33:40,496 --> 00:33:42,846 Do your same show. But I just want to film it." 621 00:33:43,021 --> 00:33:45,414 And he said what he'd paid, and I'm thinking... [gasps] 622 00:33:45,588 --> 00:33:47,460 Meanwhile, inside I'm already doing a happy dancing, praising God. 623 00:33:47,634 --> 00:33:49,636 I'm thinking, this is, this is, this is great. 624 00:33:51,072 --> 00:33:52,378 I performed the act and then I finish, 625 00:33:52,552 --> 00:33:54,554 and, yeah, I bring her out. 626 00:33:54,728 --> 00:33:56,817 You know who she is. She's, 627 00:33:56,991 --> 00:33:59,733 well, the whole world got a chance to meet her. 628 00:33:59,907 --> 00:34:01,213 Um, it was a grapefruit. 629 00:34:04,042 --> 00:34:07,349 I performed, I got paid and that was like the beginning 630 00:34:07,523 --> 00:34:10,700 of doing a couple of videos. 631 00:34:10,874 --> 00:34:12,702 There was some controversy there, all about, 632 00:34:12,876 --> 00:34:15,270 uh, you know, some of that porn. 633 00:34:15,444 --> 00:34:18,621 [Rodney] Listen, you saw him do something funny. 634 00:34:18,795 --> 00:34:21,798 simulated, like a magician does something you thought you saw, 635 00:34:21,972 --> 00:34:24,627 but he never did anything triple X. 636 00:34:25,541 --> 00:34:28,153 I would define them as almost like Playboy rated, 637 00:34:28,327 --> 00:34:30,198 one X, he needed money. 638 00:34:30,372 --> 00:34:31,982 [interviewer] Did you think that these recordings 639 00:34:32,157 --> 00:34:34,115 would come back to hurt Kai later? 640 00:34:34,289 --> 00:34:35,595 I didn't want to see it bother him, 641 00:34:35,769 --> 00:34:36,987 but I told him that was going to happen. 642 00:34:37,162 --> 00:34:38,902 It didn't take much to understand 643 00:34:39,077 --> 00:34:41,035 that they're gonna mess with you. 644 00:34:42,471 --> 00:34:44,952 [gentle music] 645 00:34:45,126 --> 00:34:48,042 [Kai] You're really still like crawling through the weeds, 646 00:34:48,216 --> 00:34:50,305 trying to get yourself on the radar. 647 00:34:50,479 --> 00:34:52,177 I continued to work. I still danced. 648 00:34:52,351 --> 00:34:54,266 I trained, like, six hours a day. 649 00:34:54,918 --> 00:34:57,834 You really were just starting from scratch all over again. 650 00:34:58,008 --> 00:35:00,098 A small fish in a huge ocean. 651 00:35:00,272 --> 00:35:03,797 My pro career hadn't exactly gotten off to a great start. 652 00:35:03,971 --> 00:35:06,756 I did a few competitions and placed dead last. 653 00:35:06,930 --> 00:35:09,498 Those were real learning experiences. 654 00:35:10,456 --> 00:35:14,721 I think my breakout show was the Colorado Pro 2006. 655 00:35:18,725 --> 00:35:20,596 Rodney St. Cloud had approached me 656 00:35:20,770 --> 00:35:23,730 about doing a posing routine together on stage. 657 00:35:23,904 --> 00:35:26,689 There was a ten thousand dollar prize 658 00:35:26,863 --> 00:35:29,866 up for the best posing routine 659 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:35,002 because Rodney and I had been crossing paths in the dance game. 660 00:35:35,176 --> 00:35:39,006 He had said to me, we should definitely do a set. 661 00:35:39,180 --> 00:35:40,442 [Rich] Posing is critical. 662 00:35:40,616 --> 00:35:42,531 It is one of the most grueling things. 663 00:35:42,705 --> 00:35:44,881 When you present yourself on stage, 664 00:35:45,055 --> 00:35:47,754 you have to be able to show that you are having fun. 665 00:35:47,928 --> 00:35:49,321 And if you don't practice that, 666 00:35:49,495 --> 00:35:51,018 you look like you're straining the whole time. 667 00:35:51,192 --> 00:35:53,847 And looking at the way Kai would pose, 668 00:35:54,021 --> 00:35:56,197 you would know that he did hours and hours 669 00:35:56,371 --> 00:35:58,721 of practicing the posing routine. 670 00:35:59,287 --> 00:36:02,116 Rodney had made the top six in that show. 671 00:36:02,290 --> 00:36:04,684 So after the prejudging, he was told 672 00:36:04,858 --> 00:36:06,599 to leave that monkey shit to Kai to do. 673 00:36:06,773 --> 00:36:07,730 That broke his heart. 674 00:36:08,340 --> 00:36:10,168 Pissed me f-- off, man. 675 00:36:10,342 --> 00:36:11,995 So I told Kai, "Listen, you do the routine. 676 00:36:12,170 --> 00:36:13,171 You're better than me. 677 00:36:13,345 --> 00:36:15,303 [crowd cheering and applauding] 678 00:36:15,477 --> 00:36:17,784 [lively music] 679 00:36:20,352 --> 00:36:22,223 [Jerry] So if you watch Kai's posing routine, 680 00:36:22,397 --> 00:36:25,357 to say it's artistic would be putting it mildly. 681 00:36:25,531 --> 00:36:27,446 It's almost like he's dancing on stage, 682 00:36:27,620 --> 00:36:30,013 and I've seen him come out with masks on and stuff like that. 683 00:36:30,188 --> 00:36:32,538 He's out to not only display his muscles, 684 00:36:32,712 --> 00:36:34,583 but he's trying to entertain the audience. 685 00:36:34,757 --> 00:36:38,021 What is bodybuilding if it's not presentation and entertainment. 686 00:36:38,196 --> 00:36:40,850 Kai entertains, Kai performed. 687 00:36:41,024 --> 00:36:43,244 It was just so different 688 00:36:43,418 --> 00:36:45,638 than mostly other routines you had seen. 689 00:36:45,812 --> 00:36:47,988 I mean, he just, you know, he utilizes the whole floor. 690 00:36:48,162 --> 00:36:50,120 He's very theatrical. 691 00:36:50,295 --> 00:36:52,732 Kai sit down, actually, before the show, 692 00:36:52,906 --> 00:36:55,169 and he'd draw every move he's gonna do and stuff. 693 00:36:55,343 --> 00:36:57,302 [Rich] He would wow the audience 694 00:36:57,476 --> 00:36:59,695 doing stuff that you've never seen. 695 00:36:59,869 --> 00:37:03,395 and actually, he used poses that he did in stripping 696 00:37:03,569 --> 00:37:05,266 and used it in bodybuilding. 697 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,573 [Kai] Long story short, I did my routine, 698 00:37:07,747 --> 00:37:11,968 Roddy did his routine, and Kai Greene got a check for 10000 dollars 699 00:37:12,142 --> 00:37:14,493 and we won the best poser award. 700 00:37:14,667 --> 00:37:19,454 And that best posing routine was the beginning of, 701 00:37:19,628 --> 00:37:21,891 "You'll see a lot of other things happen." 702 00:37:22,588 --> 00:37:25,243 [man] He took that ten grand. Then he bought the food 703 00:37:25,417 --> 00:37:26,635 and he did what he had to do. 704 00:37:26,809 --> 00:37:28,376 He won the money and he still shared 705 00:37:28,550 --> 00:37:30,422 the prize money with me, and I will never forget that. 706 00:37:30,596 --> 00:37:32,337 [Kai] It would just so happened that my path 707 00:37:32,511 --> 00:37:35,078 would cross with this guy's path 708 00:37:35,253 --> 00:37:36,732 with the bald head and the round muscles. 709 00:37:36,906 --> 00:37:38,865 And even then, I didn't understand 710 00:37:39,039 --> 00:37:41,520 just how significant a personality 711 00:37:41,694 --> 00:37:44,218 and character he was going to become in my life 712 00:37:44,392 --> 00:37:45,959 and in my career. 713 00:37:46,133 --> 00:37:47,265 Phil was already claiming off. 714 00:37:47,439 --> 00:37:48,701 Phil already had the contracts 715 00:37:48,875 --> 00:37:50,311 that people wait five, ten years for. 716 00:37:50,485 --> 00:37:51,747 Phil had it off the bat. 717 00:37:51,921 --> 00:37:53,749 [Gerard] At the time, nobody was even 718 00:37:53,923 --> 00:37:55,751 really thinking about Phil Heath. 719 00:37:55,925 --> 00:37:57,492 Then all of a sudden, this guy comes to the scene 720 00:37:57,666 --> 00:37:59,973 and he's mixing things up pretty fast and pretty quick. 721 00:38:00,147 --> 00:38:02,497 So it's almost like maybe somebody's pros were like, "Hey, wait a minute. 722 00:38:02,671 --> 00:38:04,151 This kid doesn't belong here yet." 723 00:38:04,325 --> 00:38:05,892 But in fact he did 724 00:38:06,066 --> 00:38:08,111 because his body was, you know, he was that good 725 00:38:08,286 --> 00:38:11,593 Phil's phenomenal. I mean, he's called The Gift for a reason. 726 00:38:11,767 --> 00:38:14,596 [George] You know why he's The Gift? Because the guy's just 727 00:38:14,770 --> 00:38:16,598 so pretty to look at. He got everything. 728 00:38:16,772 --> 00:38:19,079 [Rich] When you look at Phil, he's genetically gifted 729 00:38:19,253 --> 00:38:22,387 as he had that small waist and wide shoulders. 730 00:38:22,561 --> 00:38:23,953 He was totally balanced, you know, 731 00:38:24,127 --> 00:38:25,651 between his upper body, his lower body, 732 00:38:25,825 --> 00:38:28,001 he had the muscles that were like 733 00:38:28,175 --> 00:38:31,091 almost bulbous, you know, they popped, so on stage, 734 00:38:31,265 --> 00:38:32,701 he was very impressive. 735 00:38:32,875 --> 00:38:35,269 When I saw Phil Heath win that show, 736 00:38:35,443 --> 00:38:37,402 I said, here's the next Mr. Olympia. 737 00:38:37,576 --> 00:38:40,274 Phil Heath, the guy with the bald head and the round muscles. 738 00:38:40,448 --> 00:38:43,625 He actually placed first at that show. 739 00:38:43,799 --> 00:38:47,412 And Kai Greene, the guy doing the monkey shit 740 00:38:47,586 --> 00:38:49,414 Kai Greene placed fourteen. 741 00:38:49,588 --> 00:38:51,720 [interviewer] Phil Heath interview. Take one. 742 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,680 You know what, if he was sitting right here, 743 00:38:54,854 --> 00:38:56,986 which, he ain't coming, right? No. [laughs] 744 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,989 That show in particular, I think there's a lot of guys 745 00:39:00,163 --> 00:39:03,384 that, in my opinion, were like the same. 746 00:39:03,558 --> 00:39:05,168 So I don't feel like he was lacking that much. 747 00:39:05,343 --> 00:39:07,170 I actually feel like he just was lacking 748 00:39:07,345 --> 00:39:09,303 maybe some harder muscles. 749 00:39:09,869 --> 00:39:12,088 Um, and that could have been just a prep thing. 750 00:39:12,262 --> 00:39:15,527 I do feel that it was more about his size. 751 00:39:15,701 --> 00:39:19,966 Kai was natural at the 2006 Colorado. 752 00:39:20,140 --> 00:39:22,142 So strategically, have you got a guy 753 00:39:22,316 --> 00:39:24,144 that's natural looking like this? 754 00:39:24,927 --> 00:39:27,365 And this guy is pushing his... [chuckles] 755 00:39:27,539 --> 00:39:28,931 ...pushing his regimen beyond belief. 756 00:39:29,105 --> 00:39:32,108 If he gets what you got, he's going to beat you. 757 00:39:32,282 --> 00:39:35,111 [Kai] I think that was the last time I was going to be placed at that low at a show. 758 00:39:35,285 --> 00:39:39,507 I was very, very, very clear about knowing that you can work very hard 759 00:39:39,681 --> 00:39:44,077 and you don't want to work to be the last guy on the stage. 760 00:39:44,251 --> 00:39:47,341 [gentle piano music] 761 00:39:50,170 --> 00:39:53,216 [Kai] After placing last over and over again, 762 00:39:53,391 --> 00:39:55,697 I had to make some tough decisions. 763 00:39:56,306 --> 00:39:58,134 I had to do what I had to do. 764 00:39:59,005 --> 00:40:00,441 I had to improve. 765 00:40:01,703 --> 00:40:03,531 I had to chase that wind 766 00:40:03,705 --> 00:40:06,273 whatever it took to get the qualification 767 00:40:06,447 --> 00:40:07,753 for the Olympia. 768 00:40:08,667 --> 00:40:12,497 Ronnie Coleman and Jay Cutler were ruling the Olympia stage. 769 00:40:12,671 --> 00:40:15,543 In order for me to stand close to them, 770 00:40:16,065 --> 00:40:18,807 I had to get bigger and more defined. 771 00:40:19,460 --> 00:40:21,157 Part of the improvement that was required 772 00:40:21,331 --> 00:40:24,247 in order to move up in the ranks would be to put on more size. 773 00:40:24,422 --> 00:40:26,641 If you were not a certain size, 774 00:40:26,815 --> 00:40:29,731 you weren't identified as being pro-caliber yet. 775 00:40:29,905 --> 00:40:31,167 I didn't drink. I didn't smoke. 776 00:40:31,341 --> 00:40:33,779 I maintained a drug-free lifestyle. 777 00:40:34,257 --> 00:40:36,129 I never wanted to take steroids. 778 00:40:36,303 --> 00:40:39,741 Being unenhanced was important to me, 779 00:40:39,915 --> 00:40:41,526 at least at that point in my life. 780 00:40:42,352 --> 00:40:44,267 But I wanted to become a really good athlete. 781 00:40:44,442 --> 00:40:46,095 I would spend a lot of time 782 00:40:46,269 --> 00:40:47,836 in doing whatever I could do 783 00:40:48,010 --> 00:40:50,752 to discover more information about that. 784 00:40:51,449 --> 00:40:56,366 And, uh, I began to seek out the support 785 00:40:56,541 --> 00:40:58,891 and wisdom from an old friend. 786 00:40:59,065 --> 00:41:00,936 that from what I understood 787 00:41:01,110 --> 00:41:04,679 had a much clearer and diversified understanding 788 00:41:04,853 --> 00:41:06,507 of the dark arts. 789 00:41:08,117 --> 00:41:09,554 I had to do what I had to do. 790 00:41:10,772 --> 00:41:13,732 [Mike] I think he tried to take natural as far as he could, but there comes a point 791 00:41:13,906 --> 00:41:15,951 where, when to be the greatest of all time, 792 00:41:16,125 --> 00:41:18,563 you've got to take some risks and he began to take his risks 793 00:41:18,737 --> 00:41:20,042 and like everyone does. 794 00:41:20,216 --> 00:41:21,740 There shouldn't be a stigma attached to it, 795 00:41:21,914 --> 00:41:24,351 but because there is many bodybuilders hold that 796 00:41:24,525 --> 00:41:26,266 close to the vest and they won't talk about it, 797 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,964 even though we understand that's a necessary part 798 00:41:29,138 --> 00:41:31,097 of taking your body beyond its natural limits. 799 00:41:31,271 --> 00:41:32,881 It's what bodybuilding is. 800 00:41:33,055 --> 00:41:36,058 You need to have the regimen on deck. 801 00:41:36,232 --> 00:41:39,366 And again, I'm sorry to crush your dreams or whatever. 802 00:41:39,540 --> 00:41:41,324 Your regiment is so extreme 803 00:41:41,499 --> 00:41:44,893 that 99% of the people watching this have no clue. 804 00:41:45,807 --> 00:41:48,593 To be straight up, his career shifted like everyone knew 805 00:41:48,767 --> 00:41:49,985 when he started taking something. 806 00:41:50,159 --> 00:41:51,509 [laughs] It was just a matter of time. 807 00:41:54,076 --> 00:41:56,818 [dramatic music] 808 00:41:59,429 --> 00:42:02,084 [Kai] I needed to do more work if I wanted to win 809 00:42:02,258 --> 00:42:04,217 in and out of the gym. 810 00:42:05,392 --> 00:42:08,264 I was willing to train until my muscles burst. 811 00:42:08,438 --> 00:42:09,788 The Olympia was my dream... 812 00:42:10,832 --> 00:42:12,704 ...and I was chasing it. 813 00:42:13,182 --> 00:42:15,620 [dramatic music] 814 00:42:22,191 --> 00:42:24,019 [Kai] I spent a lot of years training 815 00:42:24,193 --> 00:42:26,500 and eventually I became more successful 816 00:42:26,674 --> 00:42:29,590 and capable of climbing to the next rung. 817 00:42:29,764 --> 00:42:31,897 That was on Arnold Classic. 818 00:42:39,731 --> 00:42:41,907 [gentle piano music] 819 00:42:46,564 --> 00:42:50,829 [Kai] In 2009, I was invited to compete at the Arnold Classic. 820 00:42:51,003 --> 00:42:53,396 Appearing on this stage is an honor. 821 00:42:53,571 --> 00:42:56,225 But I didn't come here to make an appearance. 822 00:42:57,052 --> 00:42:58,880 I came to fight. 823 00:43:00,621 --> 00:43:02,841 The Olympia was like the Super Bowl, 824 00:43:03,015 --> 00:43:04,494 and there was nothing higher than that. 825 00:43:04,669 --> 00:43:08,716 The Arnold Classic was the necessary step 826 00:43:08,890 --> 00:43:10,631 towards winning the Olympia. 827 00:43:10,805 --> 00:43:14,200 That was the beginning of being Mr. Olympia. 828 00:43:14,722 --> 00:43:17,856 Once you won the Arnold, you are pretty much open for the Olympia. 829 00:43:18,030 --> 00:43:21,686 The Arnold Classic was the premiere show opportunity 830 00:43:21,860 --> 00:43:25,603 that represented and carried the name of Arnold Schwarzenegger. 831 00:43:25,777 --> 00:43:27,692 To compete at the Arnold Classic... 832 00:43:28,388 --> 00:43:30,346 ...it was by invitation only. 833 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,697 [dramatic music] 834 00:43:34,568 --> 00:43:37,745 [crowd cheering] 835 00:43:42,750 --> 00:43:47,015 [Kai] I worked hard, but there was always a sheer of doubt, 836 00:43:47,189 --> 00:43:51,280 And that was because Victor Martinez, the Dominican Dominator, 837 00:43:51,454 --> 00:43:53,587 said that he was coming into that show. 838 00:43:54,066 --> 00:43:57,722 [Gerard] People had really predicted that Victor was going to be the next Olympia. 839 00:43:57,896 --> 00:43:59,549 So Victor was on that trajectory. 840 00:43:59,724 --> 00:44:01,551 So then here comes Kai. 841 00:44:01,726 --> 00:44:04,642 [Victor] Showtime comes. I'm looking at a branch, you know? 842 00:44:04,816 --> 00:44:07,296 And then there's Kai. My man looked cut off for me. 843 00:44:07,470 --> 00:44:09,647 Kai is Kai, man. Kai has always been a threat. 844 00:44:09,821 --> 00:44:12,737 I never looked that Kai lightly. I knew Kai was great. 845 00:44:13,215 --> 00:44:16,001 [dramatic music playing] 846 00:44:16,175 --> 00:44:18,786 [crowd cheering] 847 00:44:29,971 --> 00:44:31,799 [Victor] I was the favorite, but the thing is 848 00:44:31,973 --> 00:44:35,368 he did everything so precise 849 00:44:35,542 --> 00:44:38,806 he steps out, and there was just what bodybuilding 850 00:44:38,980 --> 00:44:40,808 should be and it was always different. 851 00:44:41,679 --> 00:44:44,290 [Rich] If you look at Kai's conditioning for that 2009, 852 00:44:44,464 --> 00:44:45,987 it was pretty impressive. 853 00:44:46,161 --> 00:44:48,033 I mean, he was pretty peeled. 854 00:44:48,207 --> 00:44:51,471 He was just in phenomenal shape, he wowed the audience. 855 00:44:51,645 --> 00:44:54,517 He did everything that was needed to win that show, 856 00:44:54,692 --> 00:44:57,651 and then his presentation was so spectacular. 857 00:44:57,825 --> 00:45:01,307 It was icing on the cake, and that's where you noticed. "Who is this guy?" 858 00:45:02,177 --> 00:45:03,831 [host] Let's bring out our top six. 859 00:45:04,005 --> 00:45:06,268 [crowd cheering and applauding] 860 00:45:06,878 --> 00:45:08,793 [Kai] As the judges announce the places, 861 00:45:08,967 --> 00:45:10,969 you want to be the last man standing. 862 00:45:11,926 --> 00:45:14,973 But it's nerve racking, and it feels like time stops 863 00:45:15,147 --> 00:45:18,019 as they call the names, one by one. 864 00:45:19,194 --> 00:45:20,761 They get to fifth place... 865 00:45:21,501 --> 00:45:23,982 ...fourth place and it's not you. 866 00:45:24,156 --> 00:45:25,984 [host speaking inaudibly] 867 00:45:26,158 --> 00:45:27,376 [Kai] You're still standing. 868 00:45:28,247 --> 00:45:31,163 And then... there are two left. 869 00:45:32,991 --> 00:45:35,950 [Victor] I think it was just the pain that that he just went through. 870 00:45:36,124 --> 00:45:39,345 I think he put his guts on this one, man. 871 00:45:39,519 --> 00:45:43,262 When Kai came out, I'm like, "Psst, Oh, no, Kai got it." 872 00:45:43,436 --> 00:45:44,567 [laughs] 873 00:45:45,873 --> 00:45:48,310 [Kai] When they announced my name in the first place, 874 00:45:48,484 --> 00:45:50,269 it took a minute to say again. 875 00:45:50,443 --> 00:45:53,402 [host] The 2009, Arnold classic champion, 876 00:45:53,576 --> 00:45:55,665 -Kai Greene. -[crowd cheers] 877 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,320 [Kai] I was now the Arnold classic champion. 878 00:45:58,494 --> 00:45:59,669 I did this. 879 00:46:00,279 --> 00:46:02,542 [gentle piano music] 880 00:46:03,456 --> 00:46:05,284 [Kai] I worked my ass off... 881 00:46:06,111 --> 00:46:08,330 ...and I got the win. 882 00:46:11,594 --> 00:46:15,424 I got my prize money and I got my respect. 883 00:46:15,598 --> 00:46:17,600 I was a pro 884 00:46:17,775 --> 00:46:20,516 with a major win and... 885 00:46:21,126 --> 00:46:22,910 ...and Olympia qualification. 886 00:46:23,084 --> 00:46:26,131 [Rich] I definitely think that the Arnold Classic win 887 00:46:26,305 --> 00:46:28,611 for Kai was a pivotal moment in his career 888 00:46:28,786 --> 00:46:30,700 and winning the Arnold Classic, 889 00:46:30,875 --> 00:46:34,182 you're normally destined to be able to be the top three 890 00:46:34,356 --> 00:46:35,923 or winner of the Mr. Olympia. 891 00:46:36,097 --> 00:46:38,360 [crowd cheering] 892 00:46:52,722 --> 00:46:54,986 [background chatter] 893 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:56,639 Good morning, 894 00:46:57,466 --> 00:46:58,859 What's up? What's up? 895 00:46:59,033 --> 00:47:00,643 What's up, big man? How's everything? 896 00:47:00,818 --> 00:47:02,732 The Arnold Classic Sports festival. 897 00:47:03,385 --> 00:47:04,647 I used to compete here. 898 00:47:05,605 --> 00:47:07,433 [man] We're getting photos here. 899 00:47:09,130 --> 00:47:11,045 [Kai] Now I return here as an influencer. 900 00:47:11,219 --> 00:47:13,178 Even though I don't compete, 901 00:47:13,352 --> 00:47:15,528 people seem happy to see me. 902 00:47:15,702 --> 00:47:19,053 It feels surreal to see that they recognize me. 903 00:47:19,227 --> 00:47:21,621 -Thank you so much. -Great talk. 904 00:47:21,795 --> 00:47:24,667 -God bless you, brother. [grunts] - Thank you. God bless you. 905 00:47:24,842 --> 00:47:26,756 [Kai] They want a handshake. some an autograph. 906 00:47:27,801 --> 00:47:29,020 Maybe a selfie. 907 00:47:29,716 --> 00:47:32,110 They respect my career in bodybuilding. 908 00:47:32,588 --> 00:47:33,894 Some know me from social media. 909 00:47:34,068 --> 00:47:35,156 We're keeping our fingers crossed. 910 00:47:35,330 --> 00:47:36,505 [inaudible] 911 00:47:36,679 --> 00:47:38,029 [Kai] Avid bodybuilding fans 912 00:47:38,203 --> 00:47:39,944 always ask when do I plan 913 00:47:40,118 --> 00:47:41,902 to make a comeback to the stage? 914 00:47:42,076 --> 00:47:43,295 [man] We'll talk. You, you'll respond. 915 00:47:43,469 --> 00:47:44,862 [Kai] I usually smile 916 00:47:45,036 --> 00:47:46,124 [chuckling] and change the subject. 917 00:47:46,298 --> 00:47:48,866 [indistinct chatter] 918 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,303 [Kai] Being here this time feels different. 919 00:47:52,347 --> 00:47:54,175 I'm presenting, The Chronicles of King Kai. 920 00:47:54,654 --> 00:47:56,525 As I mentioned, I have worked 921 00:47:56,699 --> 00:47:59,267 on this graphic novel my whole life. 922 00:47:59,964 --> 00:48:01,487 I feel the pressure. 923 00:48:03,663 --> 00:48:05,708 but I stay confident. I smile. 924 00:48:07,362 --> 00:48:09,016 This is a new beginning. 925 00:48:16,241 --> 00:48:18,243 [host speaks inaudible] 926 00:48:18,417 --> 00:48:19,853 [man] Oh, hey! 927 00:48:20,027 --> 00:48:22,464 Hey, look who's back. Thank you, everybody. 928 00:48:22,638 --> 00:48:24,205 -All right, all right. -[host] And... 929 00:48:24,379 --> 00:48:26,207 [crowd cheers] 930 00:48:26,381 --> 00:48:27,905 [man] Whoa! 931 00:48:28,688 --> 00:48:30,211 Oh, boy! 932 00:48:30,995 --> 00:48:33,562 [host] You actually got a camera, a really hi-tech camera, 933 00:48:33,736 --> 00:48:36,435 overhead that is going to watch what you draw. 934 00:48:36,609 --> 00:48:38,132 No intimidation at all. 935 00:48:38,306 --> 00:48:40,091 -[Kai] No pressure. -[host] So, uh... 936 00:48:40,265 --> 00:48:42,310 [Kai] I do feel passionate about succeeding. 937 00:48:42,832 --> 00:48:46,488 What I identify with being successful has changed a lot. 938 00:48:46,662 --> 00:48:50,536 There was a time when going to a bodybuilding stage anywhere, 939 00:48:50,710 --> 00:48:52,973 it would have been something that I would have 940 00:48:53,147 --> 00:48:57,282 worked tirelessly and passionately for. 941 00:48:58,065 --> 00:49:00,067 But right now we're in another place. 942 00:49:00,241 --> 00:49:02,809 There are other challenges. There are other things to do. 943 00:49:02,983 --> 00:49:06,726 If you want to be successful then you have still a lot of work to do. 944 00:49:06,900 --> 00:49:09,163 [crowd cheering] 945 00:49:10,077 --> 00:49:11,035 [inaudible] 946 00:49:16,518 --> 00:49:18,781 [tense music] 947 00:49:24,178 --> 00:49:25,919 [Kai] After the Arnold Classic, I expected to have 948 00:49:26,093 --> 00:49:29,053 at least two contracts, one with the supplement company. 949 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,404 [Gerard] When I saw Kai, I was like, 950 00:49:32,578 --> 00:49:34,623 "Yeah, this guy has got what it takes." 951 00:49:34,797 --> 00:49:37,278 It was nice to give him a little bit more financial support. 952 00:49:37,452 --> 00:49:40,629 [Kai] I also landed an endorsement with Weider publications. 953 00:49:40,803 --> 00:49:46,026 The most prestigious fitness media conglomerate founded by Joe Weider. 954 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,420 [Mike] Joe Weider made IFBB. He made bodybuilding. 955 00:49:48,594 --> 00:49:50,770 And you would always want to be under contract with Joe 956 00:49:50,944 --> 00:49:53,512 because that's the cover the magazines, that's the stories. 957 00:49:53,686 --> 00:49:55,644 You're getting verified on "You're one of the greatest." 958 00:49:55,818 --> 00:49:58,647 [Kai] Later that year, I gave up dancing once and for all 959 00:49:58,821 --> 00:50:01,172 and settled in a small apartment in the projects. 960 00:50:01,346 --> 00:50:04,218 Here, I was able to focus on the next step. 961 00:50:04,392 --> 00:50:07,656 My life's goal to hold the title of Mr. Olympia. 962 00:50:07,830 --> 00:50:10,398 The biggest show in the IFBB is the Mr. Olympia. 963 00:50:10,572 --> 00:50:12,139 That was usually the end game. 964 00:50:12,313 --> 00:50:14,011 It's hard enough to become a bodybuilder, 965 00:50:14,185 --> 00:50:17,753 But then to win the pinnacle of all the contests 966 00:50:17,927 --> 00:50:21,192 and be thenumber one bodybuilder in the world. 967 00:50:21,366 --> 00:50:23,281 What percentage of the population 968 00:50:23,455 --> 00:50:25,935 can even aspire to do that, let alone achieve that? 969 00:50:26,501 --> 00:50:28,329 [Kai] First time on the Olympia stage, 970 00:50:28,503 --> 00:50:31,593 it was a stack show, and he was there also. 971 00:50:32,072 --> 00:50:34,379 You know, the man with the round muscles, 972 00:50:35,510 --> 00:50:37,730 Jay got the Sandow trophy that year. 973 00:50:37,904 --> 00:50:39,210 I got four. 974 00:50:39,384 --> 00:50:40,602 [Mike] He was disappointed with that. 975 00:50:40,776 --> 00:50:42,387 That was a better first placing 976 00:50:42,561 --> 00:50:45,433 than many other champions had done in the past 977 00:50:45,607 --> 00:50:47,174 and yet that still wasn't enough for him. 978 00:50:47,348 --> 00:50:49,133 He truly expected to win. 979 00:50:49,307 --> 00:50:50,960 [Jerry] If you're entering the Olympia the first time 980 00:50:51,135 --> 00:50:52,788 and you make the top six, 981 00:50:52,962 --> 00:50:55,008 that means you are already qualified for the next year. 982 00:50:55,182 --> 00:50:57,576 You've met one hurdle. Plus, you've beaten 983 00:50:57,750 --> 00:50:59,360 some of the best bodybuilders in the world 984 00:50:59,534 --> 00:51:02,276 because everybody in the Mr. Olympia is good. 985 00:51:02,450 --> 00:51:05,540 [Phil] I'm like, "Man, I was a point away from beating this dude." 986 00:51:05,714 --> 00:51:07,194 We're going to be seeing each other again. 987 00:51:07,368 --> 00:51:09,022 And, of course, my whole mentality, 988 00:51:09,196 --> 00:51:12,373 after my first Olympia being third place to getting fifth 989 00:51:12,547 --> 00:51:14,767 and then having him ahead of me pissed me off. 990 00:51:14,941 --> 00:51:17,291 So I was like, "I'm coming back. I'm kicking everybody's ass." 991 00:51:18,553 --> 00:51:21,643 [Kai] 2010 Olympia turned out to be something else. 992 00:51:22,253 --> 00:51:25,038 That show ended up being a breakout moment for The Gift. 993 00:51:25,212 --> 00:51:27,084 Jay reclaimed the title, 994 00:51:27,258 --> 00:51:30,130 but Phil... went up to second place. 995 00:51:31,262 --> 00:51:34,178 At that moment, we all knew 996 00:51:34,352 --> 00:51:36,180 that there was a new force in bodybuilding. 997 00:51:36,354 --> 00:51:39,052 A new era was about to begin. 998 00:51:39,922 --> 00:51:41,402 I got seventh place. 999 00:51:42,142 --> 00:51:44,884 I was no longer in the spotlight. 1000 00:51:47,191 --> 00:51:49,018 The thinking is that to win the Olympia 1001 00:51:49,193 --> 00:51:51,325 you got to be big, big, big, the biggest guy, 1002 00:51:51,499 --> 00:51:53,371 the thickest guy wins. He overwhelms everybody. 1003 00:51:53,545 --> 00:51:56,156 So I think what happened was Kai made a mistake 1004 00:51:56,330 --> 00:51:59,551 and he tried to enter a little bit too big. 1005 00:52:00,726 --> 00:52:03,032 [Gerard] The criticism of that show, I believe, 1006 00:52:03,207 --> 00:52:04,599 was that he came in too big. 1007 00:52:04,773 --> 00:52:06,732 Unfortunately, a lot of times, 1008 00:52:06,906 --> 00:52:09,604 bodybuilders aren't judged by who they're standing against. 1009 00:52:09,778 --> 00:52:13,565 They are sometimes judged by how they've looked in the past. 1010 00:52:13,739 --> 00:52:15,784 So in their mind, Kai is not at his best. 1011 00:52:15,958 --> 00:52:17,656 I've got to mark him down for this. 1012 00:52:18,309 --> 00:52:19,962 Now, sometimes that happens. 1013 00:52:20,137 --> 00:52:22,530 When you're looking at bodybuilders, that elite, 1014 00:52:22,704 --> 00:52:25,751 they're very, very close. So Kai was off. 1015 00:52:25,925 --> 00:52:29,929 Whatever happened that caused him to go down to three places. 1016 00:52:30,103 --> 00:52:31,887 [Kai] Some fans thought I was a fluke. 1017 00:52:32,061 --> 00:52:35,978 Someone who came up on the scene and burnt out too fast. 1018 00:52:36,153 --> 00:52:37,371 [George] You can see in his eyes. 1019 00:52:37,545 --> 00:52:39,678 He was so disappointed. They're so hurt. 1020 00:52:39,852 --> 00:52:42,289 And that's when everybody, like, that's it, they thought Kai is done. 1021 00:52:42,463 --> 00:52:44,552 [suspenseful music] 1022 00:52:50,036 --> 00:52:51,864 [Mike] He wouldn't let any of us around him for a while. 1023 00:52:52,038 --> 00:52:54,040 We all waited outside of the venue 1024 00:52:54,214 --> 00:52:55,868 for about an hour, and even then, 1025 00:52:56,042 --> 00:52:58,392 when he came out, he collapsed on the sidewalk. 1026 00:52:59,524 --> 00:53:03,136 And he started a monologue of disappointment and sadness. 1027 00:53:03,310 --> 00:53:05,356 That was really very touching. 1028 00:53:05,530 --> 00:53:07,619 -This was, this was it. -[woman] Yeah. 1029 00:53:07,793 --> 00:53:08,663 Yeah. 1030 00:53:09,186 --> 00:53:10,535 This was it. 1031 00:53:11,231 --> 00:53:12,145 And... 1032 00:53:13,102 --> 00:53:15,104 That used to be like... 1033 00:53:17,498 --> 00:53:19,848 ...[inaudible] mother or grandmother. 1034 00:53:21,502 --> 00:53:23,200 I feel like something dying. 1035 00:53:23,374 --> 00:53:25,506 [Mike] I know that he was questioning his future. 1036 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,074 If he wanted to continue, I know that he was questioning 1037 00:53:28,248 --> 00:53:29,815 everything he had done up until that point 1038 00:53:29,989 --> 00:53:32,426 if it was worth it, he was questioning everything. 1039 00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,776 Some of us thought he, he might even quit at that point. 1040 00:53:45,396 --> 00:53:48,137 [tape rewinding] 1041 00:53:50,966 --> 00:53:52,620 [pencil scratching] 1042 00:53:55,406 --> 00:53:58,191 [Kai] Luckily for me, things are finally paying off. 1043 00:53:58,365 --> 00:54:00,759 The novel has been generating interest 1044 00:54:00,933 --> 00:54:03,675 and we have structured a deal with the studio 1045 00:54:03,849 --> 00:54:06,373 to produce it into an animated series. 1046 00:54:06,547 --> 00:54:08,810 [phone ringing] 1047 00:54:10,812 --> 00:54:12,945 Hey! Oh, yeah. 1048 00:54:13,119 --> 00:54:14,425 You here? All right. 1049 00:54:14,599 --> 00:54:16,862 Hey. [laughs] 1050 00:54:17,036 --> 00:54:19,081 Right, Alan. I got to get off the phone. 1051 00:54:19,256 --> 00:54:21,475 -[laughter] -[Alan speaks inaudibly] 1052 00:54:21,649 --> 00:54:26,480 -So... -I'm really excited to hear what the next step is. 1053 00:54:26,654 --> 00:54:29,614 To tell you the truth, everyone is hyped for this project. 1054 00:54:29,788 --> 00:54:32,225 But, you know, the, the team just didn't feel 1055 00:54:32,399 --> 00:54:36,273 that the prologue showcasing you throughout your childhood 1056 00:54:36,447 --> 00:54:38,710 wasn't really going to resonate well with the audience. 1057 00:54:38,884 --> 00:54:40,973 But how does that mean? You don't lose the prologue. 1058 00:54:41,147 --> 00:54:44,150 Prologue, it is the story. It's the story. 1059 00:54:44,324 --> 00:54:47,501 Listen, I'm just telling you the feedback that I got from the producers. 1060 00:54:47,675 --> 00:54:49,808 These are the guys putting the money into this. 1061 00:54:49,982 --> 00:54:52,637 But we still need to do a story that is true to my own. 1062 00:54:52,811 --> 00:54:55,466 And if we don't tell the story the way it is, 1063 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,294 it just becomes something for a cash grab. 1064 00:54:57,468 --> 00:54:59,557 People appreciate your dedication, 1065 00:54:59,731 --> 00:55:01,994 your passion, your creativity. 1066 00:55:02,168 --> 00:55:03,952 We've got to stick more mainstream, though, 1067 00:55:04,126 --> 00:55:07,086 so hoping that we can come to common grounds here because... 1068 00:55:07,260 --> 00:55:09,480 [Kai] Meetings like this, they're part of the process. 1069 00:55:09,654 --> 00:55:11,960 I feel like it's just one of those things that have to happen. 1070 00:55:12,134 --> 00:55:14,572 It's like going to your earlier bodybuilding competitions 1071 00:55:14,746 --> 00:55:18,053 and your head and your heart set on a certain outcome. 1072 00:55:18,227 --> 00:55:20,926 This didn't happen exactly the way that I expected it to. 1073 00:55:21,100 --> 00:55:23,276 As far asThe Chronicles of King Kai's concerned, 1074 00:55:23,450 --> 00:55:26,148 those are my names, those are my ideas. 1075 00:55:26,323 --> 00:55:28,020 These are things that aren't negotiable. 1076 00:55:28,194 --> 00:55:30,892 There's too much value there to compromise on that. 1077 00:55:31,066 --> 00:55:36,942 So... I need to have as much of what we're doing work. 1078 00:55:37,116 --> 00:55:41,903 So that we can get this story, my story, in the spotlight 1079 00:55:42,077 --> 00:55:45,472 -and where it needs to be. -Listen, I hear you, uh, believe me, 1080 00:55:45,646 --> 00:55:48,432 and I'm just telling you what their feedback is. 1081 00:55:48,606 --> 00:55:51,609 Some of what you've done is a little too abstract 1082 00:55:51,783 --> 00:55:55,395 and I think that if we stick between these lines 1083 00:55:55,569 --> 00:55:57,963 um, that it will be more fruitful, 1084 00:55:58,137 --> 00:56:00,574 and it will then allow you to unlock 1085 00:56:00,748 --> 00:56:02,010 uh, much more down the road. 1086 00:56:02,184 --> 00:56:03,708 Is that the only bone of contention 1087 00:56:03,882 --> 00:56:05,579 that they shared with you or is this something else? 1088 00:56:05,753 --> 00:56:07,886 You know, they, they like the whole idea 1089 00:56:08,060 --> 00:56:11,019 of even the magical individuals 1090 00:56:11,193 --> 00:56:13,718 to have um, two arms. 1091 00:56:13,892 --> 00:56:16,547 They just think that four arms is very expensive, 1092 00:56:16,721 --> 00:56:18,723 so not only for budgets but just because 1093 00:56:18,897 --> 00:56:20,899 people associate having four arms, 1094 00:56:21,073 --> 00:56:24,293 they could be evil, and dark, and very negative. 1095 00:56:24,468 --> 00:56:26,339 Um, I don't think that that's a major change, 1096 00:56:26,513 --> 00:56:28,428 but wanted your feedback on that one. 1097 00:56:30,430 --> 00:56:32,432 Draconian's have four arms. 1098 00:56:38,046 --> 00:56:39,178 [sighs] 1099 00:56:39,352 --> 00:56:40,266 I know that there are some 1100 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:41,528 compromises that have to be made 1101 00:56:41,702 --> 00:56:43,791 if you consider yourself 1102 00:56:43,965 --> 00:56:45,184 a creative writer. 1103 00:56:45,358 --> 00:56:46,577 It doesn't sound like that's something 1104 00:56:46,751 --> 00:56:48,100 that's too hard to do. 1105 00:56:48,274 --> 00:56:50,624 But I'm still developing my skill sets. 1106 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:52,670 [Alan] Thank you. 1107 00:56:53,192 --> 00:56:55,063 [Kai] Whatever you write, you still have to be, 1108 00:56:55,237 --> 00:56:57,501 you know, true to the story at his mind. 1109 00:56:57,675 --> 00:56:59,938 This is not, this is not my story. 1110 00:57:00,852 --> 00:57:02,027 This is not my story. 1111 00:57:02,984 --> 00:57:05,073 [sad piano music] 1112 00:57:25,442 --> 00:57:27,444 [funky music] 1113 00:57:36,627 --> 00:57:38,716 [Kai] I had to figure out what went wrong 1114 00:57:39,368 --> 00:57:42,023 and most importantly, how to fix it. 1115 00:57:42,807 --> 00:57:44,504 [George] This coach tried to blame it on him, 1116 00:57:44,678 --> 00:57:47,768 and he said, "You know, you couldn't hold your belly. 1117 00:57:47,942 --> 00:57:49,596 You should have ate less and this..." 1118 00:57:49,770 --> 00:57:51,598 And Kai told me, he said, "I looked at him. 1119 00:57:51,772 --> 00:57:54,296 I was, 'Okay'." He said, "That's it." And then he left. 1120 00:57:54,471 --> 00:57:56,298 He said, "That was the last time I talked to him." 1121 00:57:56,473 --> 00:58:00,128 So Kai started working with George Farah in 2010. 1122 00:58:00,302 --> 00:58:02,174 He is an ex-pro bodybuilder, 1123 00:58:02,348 --> 00:58:05,394 very knowledgeable with nutrition and training. 1124 00:58:05,569 --> 00:58:07,309 I think Kai hired him on his reputation. 1125 00:58:07,484 --> 00:58:09,094 He had already worked with several 1126 00:58:09,268 --> 00:58:11,139 successful professional bodybuilders. 1127 00:58:11,313 --> 00:58:12,619 I think it was a great call. 1128 00:58:13,315 --> 00:58:15,753 George is a great guy. He's an experienced guy. 1129 00:58:15,927 --> 00:58:17,711 He's been around the industry forever. 1130 00:58:18,407 --> 00:58:19,626 They have a great connection. 1131 00:58:20,801 --> 00:58:24,588 I know he made a lot of changes in how Kai ate. 1132 00:58:24,762 --> 00:58:28,200 So he was able to help him hone in on his genetic potential 1133 00:58:28,374 --> 00:58:29,854 to get to that top spot. 1134 00:58:30,028 --> 00:58:32,509 -I told you last time. -How to do these? 1135 00:58:34,032 --> 00:58:36,687 [George unintelligible] 1136 00:58:37,514 --> 00:58:39,559 Out this way and box in like that. 1137 00:58:43,563 --> 00:58:46,348 We started the, we did the New York Pro. 1138 00:58:46,523 --> 00:58:49,264 [tense music] 1139 00:58:49,438 --> 00:58:53,268 [Kai] Since I failed to place in the top five the year before 1140 00:58:53,442 --> 00:58:56,707 I needed to get an Olympia qualification again. 1141 00:58:57,272 --> 00:58:59,971 So we made a decision. And I entered the New York Pro 1142 00:59:00,145 --> 00:59:02,147 right here in my hometown. 1143 00:59:03,235 --> 00:59:04,758 I was focused. 1144 00:59:04,932 --> 00:59:06,194 I followed the plan. 1145 00:59:06,934 --> 00:59:08,501 I came in to dominate. 1146 00:59:08,675 --> 00:59:09,676 [crowd cheers] 1147 00:59:09,850 --> 00:59:10,982 [Kai] Hungry to win. 1148 00:59:11,983 --> 00:59:12,940 That night, 1149 00:59:13,462 --> 00:59:14,855 I reminded people 1150 00:59:15,508 --> 00:59:16,814 I was not a fluke. 1151 00:59:17,423 --> 00:59:20,600 He goes, "Man, do you think I'm going to be okay?" 1152 00:59:20,774 --> 00:59:23,429 Now I was just looking at the freaking freak, 1153 00:59:23,603 --> 00:59:26,127 I looked at him and he will tell you this. 1154 00:59:26,301 --> 00:59:27,607 I said, "Kai, listen to me. 1155 00:59:27,781 --> 00:59:31,132 If anybody beat you at that show... 1156 00:59:31,785 --> 00:59:32,960 ...I'm going to quit. 1157 00:59:33,744 --> 00:59:35,180 There's nobody beating you, bro. 1158 00:59:35,789 --> 00:59:38,313 I swear, I still remember 1159 00:59:38,487 --> 00:59:40,751 I got goose bumps when he walked out. 1160 00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:42,622 He won the show. 1161 00:59:43,492 --> 00:59:44,842 [Kai] With my number one placing, 1162 00:59:45,451 --> 00:59:47,322 I was headed to the Olympia again. 1163 00:59:53,546 --> 00:59:55,592 [gentle music] 1164 00:59:55,766 --> 00:59:58,029 [host] Folks, I know a few of you have got to be here 1165 00:59:58,203 --> 01:00:00,553 for the Mr. Olympia prejudging. 1166 01:00:01,685 --> 01:00:05,602 You know, Jay Cutler has returned the strive for five. 1167 01:00:06,167 --> 01:00:09,388 However, The gift informs me 1168 01:00:09,562 --> 01:00:11,869 that he is in his all-time best shape. 1169 01:00:13,087 --> 01:00:15,046 Will the student beat the teacher... 1170 01:00:15,829 --> 01:00:17,875 ...or will a predator emerge? 1171 01:00:19,485 --> 01:00:23,141 [Kai] I arrived to Las Vegas later that year to seek redemption. 1172 01:00:23,663 --> 01:00:25,578 He worked hard. He really worked hard, man. 1173 01:00:25,752 --> 01:00:28,407 He busted his ass. He did whatever he had to do. 1174 01:00:28,581 --> 01:00:30,539 [Kai] The Gift made history that night by becoming 1175 01:00:30,714 --> 01:00:34,413 the thirteenth man to hold the title Mr. Olympia. 1176 01:00:34,587 --> 01:00:36,763 [Rich] 2011 was a pivotal moment in bodybuilding 1177 01:00:36,937 --> 01:00:39,853 because you saw Phil move up to first place. 1178 01:00:40,027 --> 01:00:43,465 But then you saw Kai Greene move to the third place. 1179 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,294 So although Kai didn't get second, he was right there 1180 01:00:46,468 --> 01:00:48,993 because you had Jay as Mr. Olympia dropped out of place. 1181 01:00:49,167 --> 01:00:51,169 [Kai] But it wasn't good enough for me. 1182 01:00:51,996 --> 01:00:53,824 I knew that I could be number one. 1183 01:00:54,781 --> 01:00:55,739 That haunted me. 1184 01:00:55,913 --> 01:00:57,349 After winning the Olympia 1185 01:00:57,523 --> 01:00:59,264 the eyeballs are now on me. 1186 01:00:59,438 --> 01:01:01,701 The writing was on the wall that Jay was on his way down. 1187 01:01:01,875 --> 01:01:04,399 It was going to be a war against Phil and Kai. 1188 01:01:04,573 --> 01:01:07,185 That's what started th-- that big rivalry. 1189 01:01:07,359 --> 01:01:09,578 [gentle piano music] 1190 01:01:10,405 --> 01:01:11,929 [Phil] I'm more than best at what I do. 1191 01:01:12,103 --> 01:01:13,670 There's no way I'm gonna lose. 1192 01:01:20,633 --> 01:01:22,330 [suspenseful music] 1193 01:01:25,638 --> 01:01:28,641 [indistinct chatter] 1194 01:01:31,296 --> 01:01:33,907 [Kai] 2012 was an interesting year. 1195 01:01:34,647 --> 01:01:37,781 The documentary was being made about the upcoming Olympia, 1196 01:01:37,955 --> 01:01:40,522 and some of the top guys were taking part in it. 1197 01:01:42,263 --> 01:01:43,569 We all wanted to win. 1198 01:01:44,048 --> 01:01:45,614 And once the cameras were on, 1199 01:01:45,789 --> 01:01:48,095 we expressed it in different ways. 1200 01:01:48,269 --> 01:01:49,793 [Phil] Guess what Kai, you've been bodybuilding 1201 01:01:49,967 --> 01:01:51,925 for twenty years, I've been bodybuilding for, 1202 01:01:52,099 --> 01:01:54,928 it will be ten in October. I'm already better than you. 1203 01:01:55,102 --> 01:01:57,191 You know it. But now you're making an excuse, saying 1204 01:01:57,365 --> 01:02:00,586 "Oh, he got this, he got that." No, dude. I earned it. 1205 01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,980 For him to make it seem like, um, 1206 01:02:03,154 --> 01:02:05,852 I've been privileged and this and that. 1207 01:02:06,026 --> 01:02:09,073 He's just trying to play on the fact that he had a rough upbringing 1208 01:02:09,247 --> 01:02:11,249 quit thinking about thirty years ago, 1209 01:02:11,423 --> 01:02:12,903 but obviously his mind doesn't think like that. 1210 01:02:13,077 --> 01:02:14,382 He thinks that everything was handed. 1211 01:02:14,556 --> 01:02:16,515 It's because I'm better, man. 1212 01:02:16,689 --> 01:02:18,778 There's so many things that can influence 1213 01:02:18,952 --> 01:02:22,042 what a person says with their mouth that... 1214 01:02:22,869 --> 01:02:25,176 ...we can't really go by. 1215 01:02:25,350 --> 01:02:28,222 Words, lips, tongues can betray you 1216 01:02:28,396 --> 01:02:30,529 but there's something to be said for hard work. 1217 01:02:30,703 --> 01:02:32,487 We can say, keep your gifts. 1218 01:02:33,662 --> 01:02:34,794 I work hard. 1219 01:02:34,968 --> 01:02:36,796 I know how to work real hard. 1220 01:02:36,970 --> 01:02:39,494 [man] The subculture in the sport was a buzz 1221 01:02:39,668 --> 01:02:42,976 with the talk about the film. This was a really big deal. 1222 01:02:43,150 --> 01:02:45,326 There was a lot of people that were paying attention to it. 1223 01:02:45,500 --> 01:02:48,677 [Kai] Being in the spotlight, we felt even more pressure 1224 01:02:48,852 --> 01:02:50,375 going into this Olympia. 1225 01:02:51,245 --> 01:02:54,553 Phil had a lot to prove as the current champion. 1226 01:02:54,727 --> 01:02:56,076 [Phil] I better kick the shit out of this dude, 1227 01:02:56,250 --> 01:02:57,948 because the last thing I want to do 1228 01:02:58,122 --> 01:03:00,689 is be a one hit wonder man, because if I lose this, 1229 01:03:00,864 --> 01:03:02,430 I don't know if I'm gonna be able to get it back. 1230 01:03:02,604 --> 01:03:04,215 I didn't believe that it was going to be 1231 01:03:04,389 --> 01:03:05,564 one of those situations where he would win one year, 1232 01:03:05,738 --> 01:03:06,913 I would win the next. 1233 01:03:07,087 --> 01:03:10,569 Whoever wins this particular year 1234 01:03:10,743 --> 01:03:13,833 is just going to go, because that in my opinion 1235 01:03:14,007 --> 01:03:16,270 becomes more of a standard for the judges. 1236 01:03:18,098 --> 01:03:20,535 [crowd cheering] 1237 01:03:20,709 --> 01:03:23,060 [suspenseful music] 1238 01:03:28,456 --> 01:03:30,676 [Kai] Bodybuilding is a subjective sport, 1239 01:03:31,285 --> 01:03:32,591 But there is criteria. 1240 01:03:33,113 --> 01:03:37,074 Muscularity, definition and, of course, posing. 1241 01:03:37,988 --> 01:03:39,337 Size does matter 1242 01:03:39,946 --> 01:03:42,209 but it's way more than just size. 1243 01:03:43,515 --> 01:03:44,821 You have to know how to present 1244 01:03:44,995 --> 01:03:46,387 the package that you've built 1245 01:03:46,561 --> 01:03:49,216 on the stage in its peak condition. 1246 01:03:49,695 --> 01:03:54,743 You have to show muscularity with the lowest of body fat percentage possible. 1247 01:03:54,918 --> 01:03:58,269 The mandatory poses need to be executed flawlessly. 1248 01:03:58,443 --> 01:04:00,010 You have to hold those poses, 1249 01:04:00,184 --> 01:04:02,969 front double bicep, side chest, 1250 01:04:03,143 --> 01:04:05,972 back double bicep, front lat spread, 1251 01:04:06,146 --> 01:04:09,019 each quarter turn you have to make sure 1252 01:04:09,193 --> 01:04:11,151 every part of your body is in sync. 1253 01:04:11,325 --> 01:04:14,720 The leg muscles have to flex along with the upper body. 1254 01:04:15,764 --> 01:04:18,898 In the comparison round, you have to out-pose your opponent. 1255 01:04:19,899 --> 01:04:21,727 [Rich] They'll call out a pose to compare, 1256 01:04:21,901 --> 01:04:25,513 say, a front double bicep of two competitors that are very close. 1257 01:04:25,687 --> 01:04:28,690 So abdominals and thighs or back pose. 1258 01:04:28,865 --> 01:04:31,084 And what the judges are doing, they are assessing, 1259 01:04:31,258 --> 01:04:33,913 you know, which person or individual is better than the other individuals. 1260 01:04:34,087 --> 01:04:36,742 And a lot of times it could be very close. 1261 01:04:36,916 --> 01:04:41,094 So you have to really go over and over with the call outs. 1262 01:04:41,573 --> 01:04:44,271 Judges will then try to pick apart the physiques 1263 01:04:44,445 --> 01:04:47,187 by looking at what's the weak points on certain physiques. 1264 01:04:47,361 --> 01:04:48,928 But when you're at an elite level, 1265 01:04:49,102 --> 01:04:52,018 like the Mr. Olympia, there's very few weaknesses. 1266 01:04:52,192 --> 01:04:54,281 [crowd cheering] 1267 01:04:55,413 --> 01:04:57,023 [host] Judges wait to see... 1268 01:04:58,111 --> 01:04:59,025 ...Phil Heath... 1269 01:04:59,765 --> 01:05:01,767 [crowd cheers] 1270 01:05:04,204 --> 01:05:05,858 ...Kai Greene, please. 1271 01:05:09,993 --> 01:05:11,864 [Kai] The first day during prejudging rounds. 1272 01:05:12,386 --> 01:05:13,518 It was intense. 1273 01:05:13,997 --> 01:05:16,260 The energy in the arena was high. 1274 01:05:16,434 --> 01:05:17,914 Everyone felt the tension. 1275 01:05:19,219 --> 01:05:21,395 [host speaking inaudibly] 1276 01:05:30,622 --> 01:05:32,363 [Phil] So Kai had always outweighed me, 1277 01:05:32,537 --> 01:05:34,147 and I'm sure he did that night, 1278 01:05:34,321 --> 01:05:37,194 but I looked more dense, 1279 01:05:37,672 --> 01:05:39,370 than he did in some poses, 1280 01:05:39,544 --> 01:05:41,111 like in the back and stuff like that. 1281 01:05:41,285 --> 01:05:43,678 I trained for more on the eccentric side of things 1282 01:05:43,852 --> 01:05:45,376 and developing with different fibers. 1283 01:05:45,550 --> 01:05:46,986 So I looked more dense because I knew that 1284 01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:48,466 that was his strength. 1285 01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:51,425 Him on the other hand from what I saw 1286 01:05:51,599 --> 01:05:53,645 was probably like, "Well, Phil's more conditioned. 1287 01:05:53,819 --> 01:05:55,995 So I got to bring that same type of conditioning. 1288 01:05:56,169 --> 01:05:58,345 So if I have to lose a little bit more body weight 1289 01:05:58,519 --> 01:06:01,305 or like a fullness I can compare better 1290 01:06:01,479 --> 01:06:02,697 'cause Phil is the standard." 1291 01:06:02,871 --> 01:06:04,699 And I believe that's what we saw. 1292 01:06:04,873 --> 01:06:05,831 He was ripped. 1293 01:06:07,659 --> 01:06:09,487 [inaudible chatter] 1294 01:06:12,838 --> 01:06:15,841 [Kai] After the prejudging round, George told me... 1295 01:06:16,929 --> 01:06:18,148 ...it was close. 1296 01:06:18,626 --> 01:06:20,541 [George] They always say in order for you to win, 1297 01:06:20,715 --> 01:06:22,413 you've got to knock the champion out 1298 01:06:22,587 --> 01:06:24,719 and we had enough 1299 01:06:24,893 --> 01:06:27,505 but it wasn't a knockout, knockout per se. 1300 01:06:27,679 --> 01:06:29,942 So that's why I told Kai is very close. 1301 01:06:30,116 --> 01:06:32,205 I'm not going to lie to him. I told him it's very close. 1302 01:06:32,684 --> 01:06:33,902 [Kai] Phil looked upset. 1303 01:06:34,077 --> 01:06:36,470 It seemed that he was also told 1304 01:06:36,644 --> 01:06:37,776 that it was close. 1305 01:06:38,385 --> 01:06:40,126 [inaudible] 1306 01:06:40,300 --> 01:06:41,780 What else can I do? [laughs] 1307 01:06:41,954 --> 01:06:43,869 You know, I mean, you tell me 1308 01:06:44,043 --> 01:06:45,610 where I can be tighter, you know? 1309 01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:49,962 I think I was tighter than last year, easily. 1310 01:06:50,658 --> 01:06:52,443 [Kai] The word is around that it's close. 1311 01:06:52,617 --> 01:06:54,619 [Phil] Well, maybe it's close because it is close. 1312 01:06:54,793 --> 01:06:58,014 Maybe it's close because they don't want to come back to me 1313 01:06:58,188 --> 01:07:00,929 and have my head get big and me not perform well. 1314 01:07:01,104 --> 01:07:02,844 Maybe it's close because they want people to buy 1315 01:07:03,019 --> 01:07:05,543 the next day ticket. I don't know. 1316 01:07:05,717 --> 01:07:07,501 But I knew that I had a fight on my hands. 1317 01:07:07,675 --> 01:07:10,722 [gentle piano music] 1318 01:07:12,985 --> 01:07:16,293 [tense music] 1319 01:07:36,791 --> 01:07:39,098 [gentle music] 1320 01:08:02,817 --> 01:08:04,863 [muted] 1321 01:08:11,043 --> 01:08:13,263 [inspirational music] 1322 01:08:13,437 --> 01:08:16,135 [crowd cheering] 1323 01:08:21,184 --> 01:08:24,752 [Rich] Kai Greene and Phil Heath both have great genetics. 1324 01:08:24,926 --> 01:08:27,190 Phil has like a smaller waist. 1325 01:08:27,364 --> 01:08:29,453 He has more rounder muscles. 1326 01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:32,195 But then you compare Kai, 1327 01:08:32,369 --> 01:08:34,806 maybe Kai has a slightly wider waist. 1328 01:08:34,980 --> 01:08:37,113 The way his back goes into his waist 1329 01:08:37,287 --> 01:08:40,072 is different than the way Phil's back goes into it. 1330 01:08:40,246 --> 01:08:43,162 I see Phil has more of a prettier physique 1331 01:08:43,336 --> 01:08:46,296 where Kai Greene has this freaky physique. 1332 01:08:46,470 --> 01:08:48,385 So you're looking at two different types of physiques. 1333 01:08:48,559 --> 01:08:51,475 You have apples to oranges. So, which body is better 1334 01:08:51,649 --> 01:08:52,867 depends on the judges. 1335 01:08:53,041 --> 01:08:54,478 They're both very impressive. 1336 01:08:55,261 --> 01:08:57,916 Kai's got things about his physique that you're just like, "Wow!" 1337 01:08:58,090 --> 01:09:00,310 The thickness of his thighs, you know, are incredible. 1338 01:09:00,484 --> 01:09:04,183 But then when you look at Phil and you look at the thickness of his arms, 1339 01:09:04,357 --> 01:09:07,230 shoulders, and he gets into the most muscular. 1340 01:09:07,404 --> 01:09:12,191 His traps. It's just, everything is round, full and he's conditioned. 1341 01:09:12,365 --> 01:09:15,107 On the proportions, it's a little bit of a problem with Phil, he, 1342 01:09:15,281 --> 01:09:19,067 his arms and shoulders completely overpowers his torso. 1343 01:09:19,242 --> 01:09:21,069 He looks like he has underdeveloped pecs. 1344 01:09:21,244 --> 01:09:22,941 Kai doesn't have that problem. 1345 01:09:23,115 --> 01:09:26,597 Second of all, Kai has all the body parts just like Phil. 1346 01:09:26,771 --> 01:09:28,686 I think he has a little bit better proportions, 1347 01:09:28,860 --> 01:09:30,383 a little bit more symmetrical. 1348 01:09:30,557 --> 01:09:32,342 But I think Kai, when he's in top shape, 1349 01:09:32,516 --> 01:09:33,952 has a little bit more muscle definition 1350 01:09:34,126 --> 01:09:36,215 at the back and a slightly wider back. 1351 01:09:39,914 --> 01:09:41,351 [female judge] Okay, we got one more call. 1352 01:09:41,525 --> 01:09:43,614 I need Phil and Kai back. 1353 01:09:46,269 --> 01:09:47,226 Okay, now. 1354 01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:49,663 [crowd cheers] 1355 01:09:52,536 --> 01:09:54,538 Quarter-turn to-- no, wait, hold on, stop it. 1356 01:09:54,712 --> 01:09:56,844 No, wait, stay back on the line both of you. 1357 01:09:57,715 --> 01:09:59,978 And do me a favor, take two steps to your, 1358 01:10:00,152 --> 01:10:01,501 two steps to your right. 1359 01:10:01,675 --> 01:10:03,590 [crowd cheers] 1360 01:10:03,764 --> 01:10:05,853 [gentle piano music] 1361 01:10:08,073 --> 01:10:10,380 Okay, do me a favor, take a step apart from each other. 1362 01:10:10,554 --> 01:10:11,816 there's plenty of room. 1363 01:10:14,297 --> 01:10:15,689 Got to stay on the same side. 1364 01:10:15,863 --> 01:10:17,648 Come on, a little bit of room between you. 1365 01:10:17,822 --> 01:10:19,084 Come on, Phil, take one more, yep. 1366 01:10:19,258 --> 01:10:21,173 Thank you. Okay, now. Front. 1367 01:10:23,306 --> 01:10:25,177 Front double bicep. 1368 01:10:26,918 --> 01:10:29,007 [crowd cheering] 1369 01:10:33,838 --> 01:10:36,928 [Kai] The space is telling me that it's responding to me. 1370 01:10:37,102 --> 01:10:39,017 [crowd cheers] 1371 01:10:39,191 --> 01:10:41,019 [Kai] They see my effort. I've worked for this. 1372 01:10:41,193 --> 01:10:42,760 I know what I'm doing here. 1373 01:10:42,934 --> 01:10:44,501 I'm not in the wrong place. 1374 01:10:45,241 --> 01:10:48,026 Everything we've done, cutting the water when you did it, 1375 01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:50,376 how we did it, when we pull this, when we pull that, 1376 01:10:50,550 --> 01:10:51,986 pushing the carb, pulling the carb back, 1377 01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:54,685 [unintelligible] how we did it, whatever we did, 1378 01:10:54,859 --> 01:10:56,861 it's all worked because right now... 1379 01:10:58,079 --> 01:10:59,690 ...I don't need a mirror in front of me. 1380 01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:02,780 I can just watch how they respond. 1381 01:11:04,434 --> 01:11:07,567 Yes, it's happening. I'm ready. 1382 01:11:10,266 --> 01:11:12,659 [indistinct chatter] 1383 01:11:19,666 --> 01:11:21,712 [judge] Ladies and gentleman, we have a one-point decision. 1384 01:11:21,886 --> 01:11:24,062 [crowd cheers] 1385 01:11:26,499 --> 01:11:27,979 [host] Gentlemen, please take... 1386 01:11:29,328 --> 01:11:30,938 ...the first-place award... 1387 01:11:32,723 --> 01:11:34,377 ...The Olympia Gold Medal... 1388 01:11:35,465 --> 01:11:37,249 ...the Sandow Trophy, 1389 01:11:37,858 --> 01:11:42,167 the check for two hundred and fifty thousand dollars... 1390 01:11:44,125 --> 01:11:47,868 ...and the title of 2012 Mr. Olympia... 1391 01:11:48,042 --> 01:11:50,175 [crowd cheers] 1392 01:11:51,176 --> 01:11:52,264 ...Phil Heath! 1393 01:11:52,438 --> 01:11:55,572 [crowd applauding and cheering] 1394 01:11:55,746 --> 01:11:58,357 [sad music] 1395 01:12:16,462 --> 01:12:17,724 [Kai] I was unable to knock him out. 1396 01:12:18,638 --> 01:12:19,552 I tried. 1397 01:12:20,336 --> 01:12:21,162 But... 1398 01:12:22,207 --> 01:12:23,948 ...the champ stood on his feet. 1399 01:12:24,122 --> 01:12:27,038 [Phil] I definitely believe that the rivalry 1400 01:12:27,604 --> 01:12:28,953 wasn't at his peak yet. 1401 01:12:29,867 --> 01:12:31,434 But it was just the beginning. 1402 01:12:31,999 --> 01:12:34,567 And I didn't walk out of that fight 1403 01:12:34,741 --> 01:12:36,787 without a nick or bruise either. 1404 01:12:37,265 --> 01:12:40,007 I still knew that it's the Phil and Kai show. 1405 01:12:40,181 --> 01:12:41,531 Yeah. The show goes on. 1406 01:12:49,060 --> 01:12:51,367 [dramatic music] 1407 01:12:53,934 --> 01:12:57,590 [Kai] A lot started happening before 2013 Olympia, 1408 01:12:57,764 --> 01:12:59,984 the documentary that we had been a part of 1409 01:13:00,158 --> 01:13:03,030 was being released and we were eager to support it. 1410 01:13:03,204 --> 01:13:05,293 [Interviewer] Kai Greene, welcome to New York. How you doing? 1411 01:13:05,468 --> 01:13:07,165 I am great. Thank you for having me. 1412 01:13:07,339 --> 01:13:10,386 [TV host] The two time Mr. Olympia. Phil, The Gift, Heath. 1413 01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,867 His new bodybuilding docudrama titled Generation Iron 1414 01:13:14,041 --> 01:13:15,652 is a remake of the 1977-- 1415 01:13:15,826 --> 01:13:21,048 I believe that fan bases collide trash talk 1416 01:13:21,222 --> 01:13:23,181 and social media started getting into it. 1417 01:13:23,355 --> 01:13:25,139 He's being vocal in some ways. I'm doing it. 1418 01:13:25,313 --> 01:13:26,793 I don-- I don't know if I said anything. I'm, I'm, 1419 01:13:26,967 --> 01:13:28,708 I'm sure, knowing my ass, I probably did. 1420 01:13:28,882 --> 01:13:31,972 We do know that it was very fierce 1421 01:13:32,146 --> 01:13:33,452 and not always so friendly between the two... 1422 01:13:33,626 --> 01:13:35,062 [laughs] between the two of them. 1423 01:13:35,236 --> 01:13:37,978 [dramatic music] 1424 01:13:41,155 --> 01:13:44,332 [Rich] The rivalry years of 2012, 2013, 2014 1425 01:13:44,507 --> 01:13:47,988 was great for bodybuilding because you had two great physiques, 1426 01:13:48,162 --> 01:13:50,121 going head to head against each other. 1427 01:13:50,295 --> 01:13:51,775 [George] You're talking about the best in the world 1428 01:13:51,949 --> 01:13:53,472 when you are talking about Kai and Phil 1429 01:13:53,646 --> 01:13:56,257 I don't think we never have a rivalry like this. 1430 01:13:56,432 --> 01:13:57,737 [Phil] We weren't friends. 1431 01:13:57,911 --> 01:13:59,522 We were not friends. 1432 01:13:59,696 --> 01:14:02,742 There was respect, but that was it. Red Sox and Yankees. 1433 01:14:02,916 --> 01:14:05,571 [George] They are totally different individual. 1434 01:14:05,745 --> 01:14:08,661 Phil, he came out as a cocky person, 1435 01:14:08,835 --> 01:14:11,011 like, "I don't care. I'm winning." 1436 01:14:11,490 --> 01:14:13,536 [Rich] Phil Heath, as great as he was, 1437 01:14:13,710 --> 01:14:15,712 he wasn't favored or liked 1438 01:14:15,886 --> 01:14:18,889 because he had so much arrogance in who he was. 1439 01:14:19,063 --> 01:14:20,543 [Phil] This is my town. This is my show. 1440 01:14:20,717 --> 01:14:22,458 This is my title. This is my throne. 1441 01:14:22,632 --> 01:14:24,111 And I refused to give it to anybody. 1442 01:14:24,285 --> 01:14:26,853 [Rich] Where you saw, this guy, Kai, 1443 01:14:27,027 --> 01:14:30,509 he was this hard working guy. He didn't talk a lot. 1444 01:14:30,683 --> 01:14:32,076 But he was there doing the work, 1445 01:14:32,250 --> 01:14:34,078 and he was there proving it on stage. 1446 01:14:34,252 --> 01:14:35,819 And I think people relate to him 1447 01:14:35,993 --> 01:14:38,474 because not too many people have the gift. 1448 01:14:40,084 --> 01:14:42,434 [gentle music] 1449 01:14:54,664 --> 01:14:56,927 [Kai] So as my name started to rise in the industry, 1450 01:14:57,101 --> 01:14:59,364 I started seeing some hate as well. 1451 01:14:59,930 --> 01:15:03,107 Mostly, there were people in bodybuilding blogs 1452 01:15:03,281 --> 01:15:05,457 talking shit about my appearance, 1453 01:15:05,631 --> 01:15:07,807 my hair, some caught wind 1454 01:15:07,981 --> 01:15:10,201 of the fact that I used to dance. 1455 01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:12,246 I ignored all of it. 1456 01:15:13,509 --> 01:15:14,553 Then one day, 1457 01:15:14,727 --> 01:15:16,250 I heard that some of the tapes 1458 01:15:16,424 --> 01:15:18,992 that I had recorded earlier in my career 1459 01:15:19,166 --> 01:15:21,081 started leaking out online. 1460 01:15:21,821 --> 01:15:25,042 This is about surviving, man. I know guys who did much worse. 1461 01:15:25,216 --> 01:15:27,653 [Gerard] He didn't do anything to hurt anybody else. 1462 01:15:27,827 --> 01:15:29,525 These were all decisions that he made 1463 01:15:29,699 --> 01:15:31,352 only at the consequence of himself. 1464 01:15:33,006 --> 01:15:34,878 [Victor] It's nothing. What Kai did was basically 1465 01:15:35,052 --> 01:15:37,707 feed the pigeons when they said don't feed them 1466 01:15:37,881 --> 01:15:39,186 and you guys are making a big deal about it. 1467 01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:42,102 [laughs] I mean, guy's, the guy's got to eat. 1468 01:15:42,276 --> 01:15:45,323 And to be quite honest, I looked at it as massive trash talking 1469 01:15:45,497 --> 01:15:47,151 to try to pull him down 1470 01:15:47,325 --> 01:15:49,457 but then be like, "Oh, yeah, you know, but he's great." 1471 01:15:49,632 --> 01:15:51,895 It's like, "But then what was the point of saying that stuff?" 1472 01:15:58,641 --> 01:16:00,904 [crowd cheering] 1473 01:16:03,602 --> 01:16:07,780 [Kai] Arriving to Vegas felt a little different this time around. 1474 01:16:07,954 --> 01:16:09,695 I felt support from the people 1475 01:16:09,869 --> 01:16:13,612 that saw the film, and gravitated towards my story. 1476 01:16:13,786 --> 01:16:19,139 I knew going in 2013 that he's going all out. 1477 01:16:19,313 --> 01:16:22,360 He's trying to wreck my party. 1478 01:16:23,100 --> 01:16:24,928 [George] Phil was disappointed because he heard 1479 01:16:25,102 --> 01:16:27,408 some boos during the prejudging. 1480 01:16:30,107 --> 01:16:32,152 [Phil] 2013, he looked incredible. 1481 01:16:32,326 --> 01:16:34,372 I'm standing right next to him backstage, and I'm like, 1482 01:16:34,546 --> 01:16:37,201 "Whoa! He's sick." 1483 01:16:37,375 --> 01:16:38,811 I go up on stage. I do my thing. 1484 01:16:38,985 --> 01:16:41,292 I get one call out. It's a wrap. 1485 01:16:41,466 --> 01:16:43,294 When they said Phil back in line, I was like, 1486 01:16:43,468 --> 01:16:44,643 "I did my job. I beat that ass. 1487 01:16:44,817 --> 01:16:46,645 It's a wrap. I killed this dude." 1488 01:16:46,819 --> 01:16:48,560 And I know I probably killed his confidence a little bit too. 1489 01:16:48,734 --> 01:16:51,694 I was just that good that night 1490 01:16:51,868 --> 01:16:54,044 that time the judges gave me the nod. 1491 01:16:54,218 --> 01:16:57,917 [host] Three times, Mr. Olympia, Phil Heath! 1492 01:16:58,091 --> 01:17:00,006 [crowd cheering] 1493 01:17:00,180 --> 01:17:01,747 [Kai] When they announced his name again, 1494 01:17:02,269 --> 01:17:03,531 everything[inaudible] 1495 01:17:03,706 --> 01:17:04,924 [host] Congratulations to Phil Heath. 1496 01:17:05,098 --> 01:17:06,796 [Kai] But mentally, I was gone. 1497 01:17:06,970 --> 01:17:08,319 [host] Once again, Kai Greene... 1498 01:17:08,493 --> 01:17:10,190 [Kai] I failed to deliver the care. 1499 01:17:11,191 --> 01:17:12,889 To deliver the knockout next time. 1500 01:17:13,454 --> 01:17:15,239 [host] Tonight here, Mr. Olympia, 2013 1501 01:17:15,413 --> 01:17:17,067 [Kai] We had to wow the judges. 1502 01:17:17,241 --> 01:17:18,677 [commentator] I think they are well deserved. 1503 01:17:18,851 --> 01:17:21,027 [dramatic music] 1504 01:17:27,599 --> 01:17:28,948 [Kai] I had to get bigger. 1505 01:17:30,036 --> 01:17:31,734 But maintain superior conditioning. 1506 01:17:33,300 --> 01:17:37,435 As I mentioned before, muscle and size matters in bodybuilding. 1507 01:17:38,828 --> 01:17:42,527 But without definition, it's impossible to be Mr. Olympia. 1508 01:17:50,361 --> 01:17:53,930 [Victor] A lot of us were strong, but the way he executed 1509 01:17:54,104 --> 01:17:56,584 the movements and the way he moved the weights, 1510 01:17:56,759 --> 01:17:59,152 at ease, it was just unfathomable. 1511 01:17:59,936 --> 01:18:01,981 [man] And I take it, he's extremely focused. 1512 01:18:02,155 --> 01:18:04,244 You could have a bomb go off in the next room. 1513 01:18:04,418 --> 01:18:06,769 He's just focused on the muscle he's working. 1514 01:18:06,943 --> 01:18:09,119 That's probably one of the keys to his success. 1515 01:18:10,076 --> 01:18:12,296 [Gerard] He was eating an enormous amount of food. 1516 01:18:12,470 --> 01:18:14,994 I mean, he was eating incredible amounts of food. 1517 01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:17,823 I think here for 2014, I think his mindset was, 1518 01:18:17,997 --> 01:18:19,607 this is the year, he's got to do it. 1519 01:18:23,524 --> 01:18:25,265 [dramatic music continues] 1520 01:18:41,717 --> 01:18:42,979 [muted] 1521 01:18:58,690 --> 01:19:00,518 [host] Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, 1522 01:19:00,692 --> 01:19:01,780 fans from around the world, 1523 01:19:01,954 --> 01:19:04,000 welcome to Joe Wieters 1524 01:19:04,174 --> 01:19:05,523 50th Olympia. 1525 01:19:05,697 --> 01:19:08,482 [crowd cheers and applauds] 1526 01:19:10,789 --> 01:19:13,618 [Phil] I'm dedicating this Olympia win to my late father, 1527 01:19:13,792 --> 01:19:15,533 Don Heath, who passed away in March. 1528 01:19:15,707 --> 01:19:18,623 -[crowd cheers] -You know, I, I made sure that, uh. 1529 01:19:19,145 --> 01:19:21,147 throughout his struggle with amyloidosis 1530 01:19:21,321 --> 01:19:23,497 that I was able to, you know, see him in the city, 1531 01:19:23,671 --> 01:19:25,412 Seattle, Washington, where I grew up... 1532 01:19:25,586 --> 01:19:27,284 You know, obviously, at that time, 1533 01:19:27,458 --> 01:19:29,982 I had just recently lost my father, 1534 01:19:30,156 --> 01:19:33,159 and my focus was honoring him, 1535 01:19:33,333 --> 01:19:36,249 taking it up another notch, using that energy. 1536 01:19:36,423 --> 01:19:38,817 But I told my father before he passed that, you know, 1537 01:19:38,991 --> 01:19:41,559 I'm gonna bring one home for him and that's what I intend to do. 1538 01:19:41,733 --> 01:19:43,953 I'd be foolish to come up here. Like I said before-- 1539 01:19:44,127 --> 01:19:45,911 [Kai] That's what the first three should have been. 1540 01:19:46,390 --> 01:19:48,522 -[lady screams] -[Kai] That's what the first three should have been. 1541 01:19:48,696 --> 01:19:51,003 I respect your father. I respect anyone that has had a father. 1542 01:19:51,177 --> 01:19:52,352 -I didn't have one. -[Phil] You know what? 1543 01:19:52,526 --> 01:19:54,615 Enough is enough. Enough is enough. 1544 01:19:54,790 --> 01:19:57,227 -[Kai] 2014 is 2014. -[Phil] This whole-- enough is enough. Enoug-- 1545 01:19:57,401 --> 01:19:59,229 -[Phil] Enough is enough. -[Kai] 2013 is the past. 1546 01:19:59,403 --> 01:20:01,666 -[lady screams] -You know what, you talked about the past 1547 01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:04,364 your whole entire career, making excuses... 1548 01:20:04,538 --> 01:20:08,238 [Phil] I specifically told my ex-wife, "He's going to start a fight." 1549 01:20:08,412 --> 01:20:11,371 She said, "How do you know this?" I said, "'Cause that's what I would do." 1550 01:20:11,545 --> 01:20:13,330 [laughs] 1551 01:20:13,504 --> 01:20:15,506 If you want something greater 1552 01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:18,335 than air itself, you'll be insane. 1553 01:20:18,509 --> 01:20:20,685 -I'm here to beat you. -[Phil] The other side we have of Kai Greene, people. 1554 01:20:20,859 --> 01:20:23,427 -I'm here to beat you. -Here I am trying to talk about my late father. 1555 01:20:23,601 --> 01:20:26,952 -This is not about, not about not respecting your father. -[Phil inaudible] 1556 01:20:27,126 --> 01:20:29,041 It's not about not respecting the champion. 1557 01:20:29,215 --> 01:20:32,349 Listen, man, 2013 was 2013. 1558 01:20:32,523 --> 01:20:36,875 2014, every man came here to do their best to win. 1559 01:20:37,049 --> 01:20:39,312 Now, if that's if you want to, if you want to rest to... 1560 01:20:39,486 --> 01:20:41,445 [Gerard] I knew going into it that there's been this thing 1561 01:20:41,619 --> 01:20:44,274 that's been festering out between the two of them. 1562 01:20:44,448 --> 01:20:47,973 and I knew that there was this thing that the industry seemed to be going along with. 1563 01:20:48,147 --> 01:20:51,368 I'm not saying that this is what the organizers did want... 1564 01:20:52,456 --> 01:20:54,197 ...but it seemed to be that's where this was going. 1565 01:20:54,371 --> 01:20:56,242 And, you know, you have a press conference and, 1566 01:20:56,416 --> 01:20:58,810 and questions already asked that are kind of a little bit 1567 01:20:58,984 --> 01:21:01,378 antagonizing questions and it escalated. 1568 01:21:01,552 --> 01:21:02,988 Kai, I'm looking for some facts here. 1569 01:21:03,162 --> 01:21:04,772 He wants to talk facts. Trash is done. 1570 01:21:04,947 --> 01:21:06,949 We're not going to talk trash. We're gonna talk facts. 1571 01:21:07,123 --> 01:21:09,821 -Give me three facts as to why you will beat Phil... -He can't do it. 1572 01:21:09,995 --> 01:21:11,562 -...Heath on Saturday night. -He can't do it. 1573 01:21:11,736 --> 01:21:13,564 You just gave him a chance and he starts rambling on. 1574 01:21:13,738 --> 01:21:16,784 -He can't. -[as a child] Don't you interrupting again. 1575 01:21:16,959 --> 01:21:18,917 -[laughter] -[Kai] Oh. 1576 01:21:19,091 --> 01:21:20,658 [Jerry] When they hold those press conferences 1577 01:21:20,832 --> 01:21:22,442 and the current Mr. Olympia always beats his chest, 1578 01:21:22,616 --> 01:21:24,575 they sit there like with a smug look on their face. 1579 01:21:24,749 --> 01:21:27,491 Kai Greene was saying, you know, "It's going to be a different story." 1580 01:21:27,665 --> 01:21:30,494 I think he was trying to put on a little show of aggression there. 1581 01:21:30,668 --> 01:21:33,323 To, to show that he wasn't afraid of, of Phil Heath. 1582 01:21:33,497 --> 01:21:35,020 [host] Come on, Kai. Give me three 1583 01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:39,285 Here we go. Fact one, we'll outweigh him by forty pounds. 1584 01:21:39,459 --> 01:21:41,200 Fact two, we'll be wider. 1585 01:21:41,374 --> 01:21:44,334 Fact three, it's all over from the rear. 1586 01:21:44,508 --> 01:21:46,249 And that's just it. That's how it's going to be. 1587 01:21:48,686 --> 01:21:50,731 I was like, "Okay." And then he asked me 1588 01:21:50,906 --> 01:21:52,733 the same question, and I let him know. 1589 01:21:52,908 --> 01:21:56,172 Phil, give me three facts as to why Kai can't beat you on stage? 1590 01:21:56,346 --> 01:22:00,785 -2011, 2012 and 2013. -[crowd cheers] 1591 01:22:02,482 --> 01:22:04,528 [Phil] Everybody's hyped up. I've got to calm this down 1592 01:22:04,702 --> 01:22:06,051 'cause I got to save this for tomorrow. 1593 01:22:06,225 --> 01:22:08,227 I'm explaining this to my family and friends 1594 01:22:08,401 --> 01:22:11,187 and I said, "Just understand, come tomorrow, it's going to get ugly." 1595 01:22:11,883 --> 01:22:14,059 [suspenseful music] 1596 01:22:20,805 --> 01:22:22,807 [indistinct chatter] 1597 01:22:22,981 --> 01:22:24,852 [host] The final group on stage, competitors thirteen 1598 01:22:25,027 --> 01:22:26,637 through seventeen, please. 1599 01:22:27,116 --> 01:22:29,205 [dramatic music] 1600 01:22:42,740 --> 01:22:44,263 [Kai] I knew I was going to win. 1601 01:22:44,437 --> 01:22:46,787 Before the prejudging, George told me so. 1602 01:22:46,962 --> 01:22:48,572 For me to look at Kai and I'm like, 1603 01:22:48,746 --> 01:22:51,967 "Kai, nobody is big in this, nobody." 1604 01:22:52,141 --> 01:22:56,449 He was huge, he was the biggest Kai has ever been on the stage. 1605 01:22:56,623 --> 01:22:58,886 When he walked out, I said, "It's all over." 1606 01:22:59,061 --> 01:23:01,280 I knew he won. I'm like, "That's it." 1607 01:23:02,325 --> 01:23:04,457 [Phil] This is definitely make or break for him 1608 01:23:04,631 --> 01:23:07,069 because to lose to someone multiple years, 1609 01:23:07,243 --> 01:23:10,115 I mean, then it just becomes, like, you ain't never going to do it. 1610 01:23:10,811 --> 01:23:14,076 I knew what he said was after... 1611 01:23:14,902 --> 01:23:19,037 So I had to make sure that I could give him some energy on stage. 1612 01:23:19,211 --> 01:23:24,086 So what I did was we're doing the quarter turns, 1613 01:23:24,825 --> 01:23:26,566 as we're doing them... 1614 01:23:27,437 --> 01:23:29,961 ...I'm making sure he could feel my breath 1615 01:23:30,135 --> 01:23:32,572 through my nose on his back. [exhales] 1616 01:23:32,746 --> 01:23:34,531 [Rodney] It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see 1617 01:23:34,705 --> 01:23:37,273 that all the antagonism was coming from Phil. 1618 01:23:37,447 --> 01:23:39,753 I was doing whatever I could to present 1619 01:23:39,927 --> 01:23:42,495 my aura in his space. 1620 01:23:42,669 --> 01:23:44,802 [Kai] I came out to take what was mine. 1621 01:23:45,281 --> 01:23:49,937 I was not going to let him or anyone push me and shove me. 1622 01:23:50,112 --> 01:23:52,505 I think one of the funny things that happened 1623 01:23:52,679 --> 01:23:54,855 is he took his hair and he flipped it 1624 01:23:55,030 --> 01:23:57,075 and hit Phil Heath in the eye, I think. 1625 01:23:57,249 --> 01:23:58,250 [Phil] And I'm like... 1626 01:23:59,295 --> 01:24:00,948 ..."Motherf#*#*#*#*#*, you just hit me, did you?" 1627 01:24:01,123 --> 01:24:03,081 And I'm thinking, it's kind of funny 1628 01:24:03,255 --> 01:24:04,648 because I'm like... 1629 01:24:04,822 --> 01:24:07,433 [laughs] "Did I just get hit with a braid?" 1630 01:24:09,305 --> 01:24:11,089 [Kai] It was not close this time. 1631 01:24:11,785 --> 01:24:12,786 You did it. 1632 01:24:13,526 --> 01:24:15,659 You were about to knock him the fuck out. 1633 01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:18,705 [Phil] Getting closer... 1634 01:24:19,706 --> 01:24:21,056 ...getting closer... 1635 01:24:22,448 --> 01:24:24,189 ...and uh, yeah... 1636 01:24:25,669 --> 01:24:26,931 ...um... 1637 01:24:28,715 --> 01:24:30,021 ...he gets in my face. 1638 01:24:30,587 --> 01:24:32,676 [background screams] 1639 01:24:38,682 --> 01:24:41,815 [Rodney] So when I saw Kai about to punch Phil on stage. 1640 01:24:41,989 --> 01:24:45,297 I was like,"Yo, hold on, man. You got to call us for that. You can't do that." 1641 01:24:45,471 --> 01:24:47,647 Kai was just saying, "Hey, buddy, I don't care who you are, 1642 01:24:47,821 --> 01:24:49,258 you're not going to nudge me off the stage." 1643 01:24:49,432 --> 01:24:50,998 And everybody acted like Kai started it 1644 01:24:51,173 --> 01:24:52,304 but if you look at the video, 1645 01:24:52,478 --> 01:24:54,176 Heath is the one that initiated it. 1646 01:24:55,873 --> 01:24:57,004 It was epic, man. 1647 01:24:58,005 --> 01:24:59,224 It was epic seriously. 1648 01:24:59,398 --> 01:25:01,487 [crowd cheering] 1649 01:25:03,185 --> 01:25:05,535 [Phil] I think you'd have to interview the other athletes, 1650 01:25:05,709 --> 01:25:08,842 but I think they all knew that they were just on this 1651 01:25:09,016 --> 01:25:10,801 Kai Greene, Phil Heath train. 1652 01:25:10,975 --> 01:25:12,716 And they're just along for the ride. 1653 01:25:12,890 --> 01:25:14,718 [George] I'm sure some of the judges, they get mad 1654 01:25:14,892 --> 01:25:16,589 because he was aggressive. 1655 01:25:16,763 --> 01:25:18,591 But wait a minute. You guys wanted him to be aggressive 1656 01:25:18,765 --> 01:25:20,332 and because he's aggressive, you're going to take 1657 01:25:20,506 --> 01:25:22,595 some points at him and jab at him? 1658 01:25:22,769 --> 01:25:24,945 [crowd cheering] 1659 01:25:26,817 --> 01:25:29,602 [host] All right, folks, we've reached that point in the night. 1660 01:25:29,776 --> 01:25:32,301 It is time for awards. 1661 01:25:32,475 --> 01:25:37,088 If I could have Kai Greene and Phil Heath in the center, please. 1662 01:25:37,784 --> 01:25:41,484 [Kai] That night. I didn't know that this was my last time, 1663 01:25:41,658 --> 01:25:43,486 stepping onto the Olympia stage. 1664 01:25:44,878 --> 01:25:46,315 All I kept thinking was... 1665 01:25:47,446 --> 01:25:48,491 ..."This is it. 1666 01:25:49,970 --> 01:25:53,713 I got this." Everything was where it was supposed to be. 1667 01:25:53,887 --> 01:25:57,326 All the work had been rightly placed up into that point. 1668 01:25:57,500 --> 01:25:58,979 My intentions at the time, 1669 01:25:59,154 --> 01:26:02,331 were based on the thought that I am ready 1670 01:26:02,505 --> 01:26:05,508 I've left no stolen turns. It's already done, 1671 01:26:05,682 --> 01:26:07,205 and I'm just waiting for the judges 1672 01:26:07,379 --> 01:26:09,164 to announce their findings. 1673 01:26:11,209 --> 01:26:12,428 [host] Presenting... 1674 01:26:13,124 --> 01:26:14,604 ...the first-place award... 1675 01:26:14,778 --> 01:26:16,519 [crowd cheering] 1676 01:26:17,433 --> 01:26:21,567 ...a check for 275,000 dollars... 1677 01:26:21,741 --> 01:26:23,874 [crowd screaming] 1678 01:26:26,050 --> 01:26:30,750 ...they will take all that and the title of 2014 Mr. Olympia. 1679 01:26:38,497 --> 01:26:43,981 It's fourth time Mr. Olympia, Phil Heath. 1680 01:26:46,418 --> 01:26:49,029 [sad music] 1681 01:26:49,204 --> 01:26:51,031 [Kai] At that point, there's nothing you can say. 1682 01:26:52,642 --> 01:26:54,078 When they called his name again... 1683 01:26:54,252 --> 01:26:55,906 [chuckles] I smiled. 1684 01:26:56,907 --> 01:26:58,822 I shook his hand.[sighs] 1685 01:26:59,562 --> 01:27:02,478 The golden Sandow was raised in the air. 1686 01:27:05,568 --> 01:27:07,134 Did I accept this decision? 1687 01:27:09,441 --> 01:27:10,834 Uh... 1688 01:27:13,010 --> 01:27:14,490 ...I respect the judge's call. 1689 01:27:15,578 --> 01:27:18,102 [Gerard] I think at that point, Kai had lost... 1690 01:27:18,755 --> 01:27:21,453 ...a little bit of his belief... 1691 01:27:22,585 --> 01:27:24,282 ...that he would ever win this title. 1692 01:27:24,804 --> 01:27:28,678 Having worked so hard, having come so close, 1693 01:27:28,852 --> 01:27:30,506 I think I was kind of like, 1694 01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:32,203 "I don't know if I'm ever going to get this." 1695 01:27:32,377 --> 01:27:33,900 I think there's a lot of frustration, and I think 1696 01:27:34,074 --> 01:27:36,338 there was a lot of the letdown inside. 1697 01:27:36,512 --> 01:27:38,253 Here's this dream of yours that you've had. 1698 01:27:38,427 --> 01:27:40,733 You've worked so hard for and you've come so close, 1699 01:27:40,907 --> 01:27:42,518 and you feel like. "You know what? 1700 01:27:42,692 --> 01:27:45,477 No matter what I do, I'm not going to get this thing." 1701 01:27:45,651 --> 01:27:48,567 I think of anything, I think I had it that year. 1702 01:27:49,133 --> 01:27:50,439 Phil is pretty phenomenal. 1703 01:27:50,613 --> 01:27:52,484 I can see why the judges went with Phil. 1704 01:27:53,529 --> 01:27:54,660 I can see why they did. 1705 01:27:54,834 --> 01:27:56,227 I said Kai, "Psst, 1706 01:27:56,793 --> 01:27:58,273 I would hate to be Phil." 1707 01:27:59,099 --> 01:28:02,320 That's like marrying the homecoming queen, 1708 01:28:02,494 --> 01:28:04,888 but she wants to fuck you. That's a horrible feeling. 1709 01:28:05,062 --> 01:28:06,803 You got her, but she wants him. 1710 01:28:06,977 --> 01:28:09,153 You've got the title, but everybody's rooting for Kai. 1711 01:28:10,067 --> 01:28:11,938 That's a horrible feeling. I mean, "You know 1712 01:28:12,112 --> 01:28:13,418 you're not supposed to have this title." 1713 01:28:13,592 --> 01:28:15,115 And here I am, I'm looking at Kai's 100% 1714 01:28:15,290 --> 01:28:17,640 and Phil is off with this belly and I'm like, 1715 01:28:17,814 --> 01:28:19,555 "How the hell you give it to Phil?" 1716 01:28:19,729 --> 01:28:22,166 I, and honestly, I still don't know, I don't understand it. 1717 01:28:22,340 --> 01:28:24,037 It was really hard on both of us 1718 01:28:24,211 --> 01:28:25,778 because that was the first time 1719 01:28:25,952 --> 01:28:28,215 I really promised Kai that he's going to win. 1720 01:28:28,390 --> 01:28:29,782 2014... 1721 01:28:30,783 --> 01:28:33,090 ...I don't care who gets mad at me, Kai should have won it. 1722 01:28:33,264 --> 01:28:34,961 I could see how George could say that. 1723 01:28:35,135 --> 01:28:37,790 When you work with somebody or you're friends with somebody, 1724 01:28:37,964 --> 01:28:39,618 for whatever reason, 1725 01:28:39,792 --> 01:28:41,664 I think there's something in your subconscious, 1726 01:28:41,838 --> 01:28:44,014 there's something that makes you feel 1727 01:28:44,188 --> 01:28:46,799 that this person that you have this connection with, 1728 01:28:46,973 --> 01:28:49,236 this relationship with is better. 1729 01:28:49,411 --> 01:28:51,500 I think there was something going on with Kai 1730 01:28:51,674 --> 01:28:53,806 where he wasn't really liked. 1731 01:28:53,980 --> 01:28:56,243 It wasn't that they thought he was a bad person, 1732 01:28:56,418 --> 01:28:59,246 but there's, there's some, let's say, qualities about him. 1733 01:28:59,421 --> 01:29:00,987 that kept him from winning. 1734 01:29:01,161 --> 01:29:03,120 There's some sort of thing against Kai 1735 01:29:03,294 --> 01:29:05,514 I couldn't tell you exactly. Maybe it's the hair. 1736 01:29:05,688 --> 01:29:06,993 Maybe they don't like his posing. 1737 01:29:07,167 --> 01:29:08,995 I don't know what it is, but I don't think 1738 01:29:09,169 --> 01:29:11,084 they would ever have given him the title, honestly. 1739 01:29:11,258 --> 01:29:14,740 And Kai didn't directly say this, but he hinted 1740 01:29:14,914 --> 01:29:17,526 that he'd spoken to a top official bodybuilder 1741 01:29:17,700 --> 01:29:19,354 who basically told him that. 1742 01:29:19,528 --> 01:29:21,747 So I think that somehow he got word that, 1743 01:29:21,921 --> 01:29:24,271 "Hey, buddy, there's no way we're going to let you win." 1744 01:29:24,446 --> 01:29:26,143 So why would he knock himself out 1745 01:29:26,317 --> 01:29:28,058 trying to compete here when he has no chance? 1746 01:29:28,232 --> 01:29:30,234 Those films, in that time of his life as a, 1747 01:29:30,408 --> 01:29:32,454 as a dancer and, and making erotic films. 1748 01:29:32,628 --> 01:29:34,891 It definitely came back to haunt him. 1749 01:29:35,500 --> 01:29:38,460 There's no doubt that, that people are judging him because of that. 1750 01:29:38,634 --> 01:29:42,681 And that may or may not have affected his placements. We'll never know. 1751 01:29:42,855 --> 01:29:45,858 So, yeah, that was, that was tough. It was tough loss man. 1752 01:29:46,032 --> 01:29:48,426 It was tough loss and that's why people ask me, 1753 01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:51,690 "Is he going to do the Olympias?" I'm like, "Dude, I don't know." 1754 01:29:51,864 --> 01:29:54,606 I don't think he can ever recover from something like this. 1755 01:29:59,089 --> 01:30:01,961 [interviewer] Why didn't you try to come back again and compete next year? 1756 01:30:02,658 --> 01:30:05,704 [dramatic music] 1757 01:30:09,578 --> 01:30:11,797 [Kai] The truth is, I was ready to compete. 1758 01:30:12,711 --> 01:30:16,062 Well, circumstances surrounding the 2015 Olympia 1759 01:30:16,236 --> 01:30:19,196 prevented me from returning to that stage. 1760 01:30:22,199 --> 01:30:24,549 I didn't complain. I didn't respond to anyone 1761 01:30:24,723 --> 01:30:26,464 on the blogs or social media. 1762 01:30:27,030 --> 01:30:30,163 I didn't want to do anything to tarnish bodybuilding, 1763 01:30:30,337 --> 01:30:31,774 the sport that I love, 1764 01:30:31,948 --> 01:30:34,124 I didn't want to disappoint the enthusiasts 1765 01:30:34,777 --> 01:30:37,432 or the community that I became part of. 1766 01:30:38,389 --> 01:30:40,783 I explained myself the best way that I could. 1767 01:30:41,348 --> 01:30:43,525 And wished good luck to all the competitors. 1768 01:30:43,699 --> 01:30:46,223 Most notably, what happened in 2015 1769 01:30:46,397 --> 01:30:49,139 was my Wieder contract was withheld 1770 01:30:49,313 --> 01:30:51,576 because of a dispute, 1771 01:30:51,750 --> 01:30:54,274 with my, uh, supplement company at the time. 1772 01:30:54,449 --> 01:30:55,928 There was really no animosity. I mean, we would have, 1773 01:30:56,102 --> 01:30:57,800 we would have loved to have him stay. 1774 01:30:57,974 --> 01:31:00,150 We had a lot invested with him over the years, 1775 01:31:00,324 --> 01:31:01,847 but you know, he thought that 1776 01:31:02,021 --> 01:31:04,415 that was the better path for him to take at the time. 1777 01:31:05,068 --> 01:31:06,591 [Kai] I understood that my value was more 1778 01:31:06,765 --> 01:31:08,419 than what I was being paid. 1779 01:31:08,593 --> 01:31:11,117 I had to address that, and the only time to address it 1780 01:31:11,291 --> 01:31:14,469 was at the time the contract would be negotiated. 1781 01:31:14,643 --> 01:31:16,993 First, I started with the supplement company. 1782 01:31:17,167 --> 01:31:18,734 Everybody has to have a contract, 1783 01:31:18,908 --> 01:31:20,953 and ultimately, the fact that I didn't have a contract 1784 01:31:21,127 --> 01:31:22,912 with the same said company 1785 01:31:23,086 --> 01:31:25,349 affected my ability to have a Wieder contract. 1786 01:31:25,523 --> 01:31:27,438 My Wieder contract was withheld, 1787 01:31:27,612 --> 01:31:29,440 and as a result of that being withheld, 1788 01:31:29,614 --> 01:31:33,923 it became impossible to sign the Olympia contract. 1789 01:31:34,576 --> 01:31:36,752 [sad piano music] 1790 01:31:38,493 --> 01:31:40,059 It shouldn't have been withheld. 1791 01:31:41,496 --> 01:31:44,673 So imagine losing the contract. A six figure contract. 1792 01:31:44,847 --> 01:31:46,675 Imagine that money being taken away from you... 1793 01:31:47,850 --> 01:31:50,287 ...and then that same company that took the money 1794 01:31:50,461 --> 01:31:51,897 away from you runs the biggest show in the world 1795 01:31:52,071 --> 01:31:54,030 that is gonna use your image and likeness 1796 01:31:54,204 --> 01:31:55,727 to generate money with. 1797 01:31:55,901 --> 01:31:57,947 They get you images from the show the previous year. 1798 01:31:58,121 --> 01:31:59,470 They can write about you because they can go 1799 01:31:59,644 --> 01:32:01,341 on your social media and write about you. 1800 01:32:01,516 --> 01:32:02,908 So therefore, they can go up to vendors, 1801 01:32:03,082 --> 01:32:05,171 get money, Kai's coming back, 1802 01:32:05,345 --> 01:32:08,392 Phil, you guys know, even if you don't sponsor him, 1803 01:32:08,958 --> 01:32:11,134 he's bringing people. 1804 01:32:11,308 --> 01:32:13,223 Phil and Kai are bringing people. 1805 01:32:13,789 --> 01:32:16,835 If I'm a businessman, if I'm Kai, I'm thinking 1806 01:32:17,009 --> 01:32:19,446 "You just took the money away from me, you want me to compete at your show? 1807 01:32:19,621 --> 01:32:21,144 No, I'm not I'm not going to do that." 1808 01:32:21,318 --> 01:32:22,885 Because I'm sure if he would have been resigned, 1809 01:32:23,059 --> 01:32:24,495 he would've probably competed. 1810 01:32:24,669 --> 01:32:25,844 I told people, I was like, 1811 01:32:26,018 --> 01:32:27,454 "Hey, man, you guys need to pay him." 1812 01:32:27,629 --> 01:32:29,500 Hand on God, I said, "Pay that, man." 1813 01:32:29,674 --> 01:32:31,023 I didn't even talk to Kai, but I'm thinking, 1814 01:32:31,197 --> 01:32:33,156 "If I could petition to get him paid, 1815 01:32:33,809 --> 01:32:35,506 he's gonna come back." 1816 01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:38,465 Because at least he has guaranteed money to do the craft. 1817 01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:41,033 You can't just do the craft and not get paid. We're professional athletes, 1818 01:32:41,207 --> 01:32:43,296 like we're professionals. We're not getting paid millions of dollars. 1819 01:32:43,470 --> 01:32:45,734 So this money is special. 1820 01:32:45,908 --> 01:32:48,345 That would, in a sense, would be enough for him 1821 01:32:48,519 --> 01:32:51,870 to sit out and hold out like any other running back 1822 01:32:52,044 --> 01:32:53,742 for a sports team and say, "You know what? 1823 01:32:53,916 --> 01:32:56,005 You're not going to pay me, you're gonna franchise tag me. 1824 01:32:56,179 --> 01:32:58,834 I'm going to sit out and you're gonna pay me what I feel I'm worth." 1825 01:32:59,008 --> 01:33:01,488 I have invested more than 20 years of my life 1826 01:33:01,663 --> 01:33:05,536 in the idea... of being able to come to the Olympia 1827 01:33:05,710 --> 01:33:08,713 and to do an absolute best. 1828 01:33:08,887 --> 01:33:13,936 My resolve has been to respond as a champion and just aim to... 1829 01:33:15,198 --> 01:33:18,984 ...represent the better thought of what that means to me. 1830 01:33:19,158 --> 01:33:20,943 You don't get to this point... 1831 01:33:22,205 --> 01:33:23,554 ...and just stop. 1832 01:33:29,386 --> 01:33:31,606 [sniffs] It doesn't happen like that. 1833 01:33:39,178 --> 01:33:40,484 I am... 1834 01:33:40,963 --> 01:33:42,704 I'm not a victim. I'm not a... 1835 01:33:43,966 --> 01:33:45,532 They ain't gonna break me. 1836 01:33:55,978 --> 01:33:57,457 [George] Kai wasn't going to compete at all. 1837 01:33:57,632 --> 01:33:59,111 He said, "I'm done, George, I'm done." 1838 01:33:59,285 --> 01:34:01,418 And he's like "George, man, I'm just so tired, 1839 01:34:01,592 --> 01:34:04,421 why I'm doing all this, you know, for what? 1840 01:34:04,595 --> 01:34:06,466 Even when I win, they give me second? 1841 01:34:06,641 --> 01:34:08,164 Why? Why should I bother?" 1842 01:34:08,643 --> 01:34:10,819 [Phil] I was more upset because he wasn't competing. 1843 01:34:10,993 --> 01:34:12,429 Where is my inspiration? 1844 01:34:14,866 --> 01:34:16,389 Where is my "why"? 1845 01:34:16,563 --> 01:34:18,304 My "why" was like, "Well, I want to beat his ass. 1846 01:34:18,478 --> 01:34:21,046 I want to still win. I like this feeling." 1847 01:34:21,220 --> 01:34:23,396 I enjoy competing against him. 1848 01:34:23,570 --> 01:34:25,660 If I got to pick who I want to really 1849 01:34:25,834 --> 01:34:28,227 go toe to toe with. I want go with Kai. 1850 01:34:29,098 --> 01:34:34,843 With Kai, I think it probably was a factor of emotional, physical, mental, 1851 01:34:35,017 --> 01:34:37,019 that he just said, "I just, I'm not going to do this 1852 01:34:37,193 --> 01:34:38,673 and I can do other things." 1853 01:34:40,892 --> 01:34:42,894 [people chattering] 1854 01:34:44,635 --> 01:34:45,897 [Kai] I really do believe you can write 1855 01:34:46,071 --> 01:34:47,333 and control your own narrative. 1856 01:34:47,507 --> 01:34:49,031 I think every person has to do that. 1857 01:34:49,205 --> 01:34:51,076 This was an opportunity, 1858 01:34:51,250 --> 01:34:53,035 an opportunity to grow 1859 01:34:53,209 --> 01:34:55,211 to better myself and advance 1860 01:34:55,385 --> 01:34:58,127 to other areas of my life and career. 1861 01:34:58,997 --> 01:35:02,087 I finally focused on my self-development, 1862 01:35:02,261 --> 01:35:04,089 my business, my art. 1863 01:35:04,786 --> 01:35:07,310 I was able to focus on The Chronicles of King Kai 1864 01:35:07,484 --> 01:35:10,313 and finally put it down on paper 1865 01:35:10,487 --> 01:35:12,532 and make it into a reality. 1866 01:35:13,969 --> 01:35:17,015 I started to attend arenas outside of bodybuilding, 1867 01:35:18,147 --> 01:35:19,539 I have invested in myself 1868 01:35:19,714 --> 01:35:22,325 and focused on building my own destiny. 1869 01:35:23,369 --> 01:35:26,503 I believe now more than ever, it's worth it to be clear 1870 01:35:26,677 --> 01:35:28,418 about determining a worthy goal 1871 01:35:28,592 --> 01:35:31,116 and working towards its realization. 1872 01:35:31,290 --> 01:35:34,424 Even if it will take you 20, 30 years. 1873 01:35:34,598 --> 01:35:36,731 My ability to be successful, 1874 01:35:36,905 --> 01:35:39,603 depended on my ability to be willing to work. 1875 01:35:39,777 --> 01:35:42,649 There's still work that can be done, 1876 01:35:42,824 --> 01:35:45,478 but all the work that needs to be done isn't just done in the gym. 1877 01:35:46,871 --> 01:35:49,221 [seagulls cawing] 1878 01:35:49,395 --> 01:35:53,312 I think Kai Greene will be remembered, as you know, 1879 01:35:53,486 --> 01:35:56,968 a bodybuilder that brought back the art of bodybuilding. 1880 01:35:57,142 --> 01:35:59,492 [inspirational music] 1881 01:35:59,666 --> 01:36:01,016 [Rich] He was a phenomenal bodybuilder. 1882 01:36:01,190 --> 01:36:02,495 He was a freaky bodybuilder 1883 01:36:02,669 --> 01:36:04,367 to put that much mass on his frame. 1884 01:36:04,541 --> 01:36:06,108 You saw him as this natural bodybuilder 1885 01:36:06,282 --> 01:36:08,066 that got his Pro Card and then from there, 1886 01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:10,329 he evolved into this freak. 1887 01:36:10,503 --> 01:36:13,202 But still, although he was a freak, he was graceful. 1888 01:36:13,376 --> 01:36:16,248 I think he'll go down as one of the guys that should have won the Olympia 1889 01:36:16,422 --> 01:36:18,685 but wasn't given the opportunity that he was a top pro. 1890 01:36:18,860 --> 01:36:21,253 He had everything. But I think that 1891 01:36:21,427 --> 01:36:24,517 because of an unjust attitude on the part of, let's say, 1892 01:36:24,691 --> 01:36:27,390 the organizations, that whole bodybuilding, 1893 01:36:27,564 --> 01:36:30,393 they didn't want to give him a chance to win, even though he deserved to win. 1894 01:36:32,525 --> 01:36:34,658 [Mike] I think the way people will remember Kai 1895 01:36:34,832 --> 01:36:37,792 in bodybuilding has yet to be created. 1896 01:36:38,357 --> 01:36:43,145 Not as someone who almost became Mr. Olympia, but as something else. 1897 01:36:43,319 --> 01:36:46,191 I feel like he's moving toward something else 1898 01:36:46,365 --> 01:36:48,933 that's going to encompass positive thinking, 1899 01:36:49,107 --> 01:36:52,197 the building of a great physique, and the artistry and, 1900 01:36:52,371 --> 01:36:55,200 and the presentation of all of that. I think that's coming. 1901 01:36:55,374 --> 01:36:57,681 How he will be remembered is yet to come. 1902 01:36:57,855 --> 01:37:00,727 I really do. I think he's still creating himself. 1903 01:37:00,902 --> 01:37:02,425 And will continue to create himself. 1904 01:37:02,599 --> 01:37:05,254 And that's the Kai we're going to remember, eventually. 1905 01:37:05,428 --> 01:37:07,169 Oh, Kai is always going to be remembered, man. 1906 01:37:07,343 --> 01:37:08,910 He's going to be the predator for life. 1907 01:37:09,084 --> 01:37:10,868 He's the Predator, man. 1908 01:37:11,521 --> 01:37:12,522 He's the Predator. 1909 01:37:13,740 --> 01:37:15,873 [Kai] At the end of the day, I wasn't given 1910 01:37:16,047 --> 01:37:17,657 the title Mr. Olympia, 1911 01:37:18,354 --> 01:37:19,964 but my journey continues. 1912 01:37:21,096 --> 01:37:24,055 I look back on my life and where I've come from, 1913 01:37:24,229 --> 01:37:26,188 I have learned a lot 1914 01:37:26,362 --> 01:37:28,930 about my abilities, my strengths, 1915 01:37:29,104 --> 01:37:31,846 my ambitions, I have traveled the world. 1916 01:37:32,324 --> 01:37:34,761 Everywhere I go, I see opportunity. 1917 01:37:34,936 --> 01:37:37,416 I meet like-minded people. 1918 01:37:38,113 --> 01:37:40,202 [inspirational music continues] 1919 01:37:44,467 --> 01:37:46,556 [Mike] I think people root for him. 1920 01:37:47,035 --> 01:37:48,340 And that's the biggest thing 1921 01:37:50,429 --> 01:37:52,823 [Jerry] I think everybody looks at him and wants him to win, 1922 01:37:52,997 --> 01:37:55,608 and that's why I think he should get back out there and go again 1923 01:37:55,782 --> 01:37:57,306 and make it happen. 1924 01:37:58,350 --> 01:38:00,222 [Victor] It's not about how many titles you have, 1925 01:38:00,396 --> 01:38:02,093 it is how you make people feel. 1926 01:38:02,267 --> 01:38:04,791 I he's made people feel very good about themselves, 1927 01:38:04,966 --> 01:38:06,924 and he gave a piece 1928 01:38:07,098 --> 01:38:09,448 a large piece of who he is to the world. 1929 01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:13,365 [Phil] You know, he's done movies. He's done other things. 1930 01:38:13,539 --> 01:38:15,715 He's carried, that entrepreneur spirit. 1931 01:38:16,325 --> 01:38:18,153 His story isn't finished. 1932 01:38:19,067 --> 01:38:23,506 And I'm truly honored to have shared the stage with him. 1933 01:38:24,942 --> 01:38:26,901 I'm actually really thankful... 1934 01:38:27,727 --> 01:38:29,555 ...that he gave it such a good run 1935 01:38:29,729 --> 01:38:31,470 because I don't think there was anyone 1936 01:38:31,644 --> 01:38:33,037 that could have done the same. 1937 01:38:33,211 --> 01:38:34,604 Actually, I know it. 1938 01:38:35,474 --> 01:38:38,303 [Kai] Things that I thought were unachievable... 1939 01:38:39,087 --> 01:38:40,131 ...I accomplished them. 1940 01:38:41,045 --> 01:38:44,570 And yet there is a lot more work to be done... 1941 01:38:46,094 --> 01:38:48,444 ...a lot more goals to accomplish. 1942 01:38:48,923 --> 01:38:51,664 And one thing I truly believe, 1943 01:38:51,838 --> 01:38:53,884 thoughts become things. 1944 01:38:55,059 --> 01:38:57,148 [crowd cheers] 1945 01:38:57,932 --> 01:39:01,892 [crowd screams] Kai, Kai, Kai, Kai! 1946 01:39:02,066 --> 01:39:04,677 Kai, Kai, Kai, Kai! 1947 01:39:04,851 --> 01:39:06,462 Kai, Kai, Kai! 1948 01:39:06,636 --> 01:39:10,031 Kai, Kai, Kai, Kai, Kai! 1949 01:39:10,205 --> 01:39:12,990 Kai, Kai, Kai! 1950 01:39:13,164 --> 01:39:15,775 [gentle music] 1951 01:39:49,287 --> 01:39:51,376 [muted] 1952 01:39:58,166 --> 01:40:00,385 [reflexive music] 1953 01:40:01,430 --> 01:40:04,215 He's a lovable guy. Can't bite that, yeah, can't beat that. 1954 01:40:04,389 --> 01:40:06,000 Well, we'll cut the last part. 1955 01:40:06,174 --> 01:40:07,566 [laughter] 1956 01:40:07,740 --> 01:40:09,090 Ow! 1957 01:40:17,576 --> 01:40:18,621 [Rich] I'm not telling you that. 1958 01:40:18,795 --> 01:40:20,666 [background chatter] 1959 01:40:23,713 --> 01:40:25,802 Someone's hurt. Somebody's fighting. [laughs] 1960 01:40:26,368 --> 01:40:27,760 Yup. [groans] 1961 01:40:33,027 --> 01:40:35,507 Can you cock it? Oh, yeah, I wasn't gonna try do that. 1962 01:40:35,681 --> 01:40:36,639 [laughter] 1963 01:40:45,952 --> 01:40:50,348 [Kai] Thinking, you know, so candid that you're irresponsible, 1964 01:40:50,522 --> 01:40:53,656 um, with how you handle, you know... 1965 01:40:55,832 --> 01:40:57,877 [laughs] 1966 01:41:15,808 --> 01:41:17,636 [Kai] I do want to encourage those people 1967 01:41:17,810 --> 01:41:19,551 though they'd to turn around, I can see that, 1968 01:41:19,725 --> 01:41:21,162 I see the opportunity. 1969 01:41:25,731 --> 01:41:27,255 Damn I forgot what the fuck I was answering right now. 1970 01:41:27,429 --> 01:41:28,473 [laughs]