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The trouble with getting hired
to do something
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is I don't know
what the film's about.
Yeah.
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You know, is it about
what a stud Paul Newman is?
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Is it about how women
get demolished
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by a male-driven culture?
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Yeah.
...loving marriages?
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Yes. Is it a movie about
Paul or Joanne or...
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And it reminds me
of this thing
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that you said to me
a while ago
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when I was asking
for relationship advice,
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which was that
in relationships,
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there's always
a third person,
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and the third person
is the relationship.
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It just creates
this different person
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that is
the two people together.
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And I wonder if the movie
is about if, you know,
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if you can see it
as easier to make
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being about one person.
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If it's about that person,
the person that was...
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[ Speaks indistinctly ]
What?
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I think that's what
I should do.
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[ Laughs ]
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♪♪
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Woman:
"Sometimes a Great Notion."
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This was out on the set.
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Paul inherited this film.
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He was acting in it,
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and then they fired
the director,
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and he had to take
over direction.
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♪♪
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♪♪
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Clooney:
"'Sometimes a Great Notion'
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was a bad, unsettled time.
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I was warring with everybody.
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I was warring with my agent.
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I was warring with Universal.
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And I was going through
difficult times with Joanne.
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And I had too much pressure
on me.
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I was drinking much too hard."
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Got a beer?
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[ Indistinct conversations ]
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He was drinking so much,
and he was so tired.
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Directing and acting.
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That he would finish,
look at the rushes,
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and then down
six to eight martinis.
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♪♪
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Hamilton:
"I was here in New York,
and I got a call from Paul
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saying that, you know,
'Sometimes a Great Notion'
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was totally out of control,
that he'd taken over directing.
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And he wondered
if I could come out there
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and just give him a hand."
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"He was really drinking a lot."
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"I asked him how much he drank.
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I remember him telling me.
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Hmm.
A staggering amount."
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George arrives and finds Paul
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basically drinking himself
to death.
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And George Roy Hill
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was a pretty
heavy drinker himself.
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Yeah. I mean, that's like
Willie Nelson telling you
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you're smoking
too much grass, you know?
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You know you're in trouble when
he's worried about you.
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Hamilton: "Paul is a very angry
man. He's frustrated.
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But anger is just another form
of being alive.
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I mean, I think you have
to be angry in order to live.
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You can't just lie back
and let things roll over you.
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and Paul doesn't.
He is a principled man.
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And to be a principled man,
you've got to be angry."
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[ Chain-saw motor revving ]
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Hey! You stop --
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♪♪
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Clooney: "A thick skin
had to be selected.
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You have to control what you're
going to allow to get to you
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and what you're not.
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That's probably the reason
I drank as much as I did."
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You bastard!
That was my daddy's desk.
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Man: "I don't know
if I should say this.
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You decide if you want to,
you know, deal with it.
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But he had one family
with Joanne
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and these little princesses
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living
in this incredible mansion
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on the other side of town
was this house in the Valley
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with, you know, two other girls,
you know, a boy.
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I always felt -- I don't have
any reason to feel this.
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I don't have any information.
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But I always felt I was
projected into this situation,
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that it was --
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If it was me,
I would be terribly guilty."
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Poltermann: "So, Paul,
what made your divorce
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from Jackie so brutal?
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50% of the American
population is --"
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Clooney: "Because it didn't have
any class, Stewart."
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"How so?"
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"It didn't take the parties that
we're gonna be injured aside
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and give them comfort...
by explanation."
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"By telling them
what was happening?"
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"Yeah, but in a way
that they would understand it.
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But that's because
I didn't get it."
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It's not because I wouldn't
have done it had I gotten it."
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"How would you
explain it now?"
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"Well, I don't know, Stewart.
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I couldn't create the scene."
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[ Men singing drunkenly ]
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Whoa!
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That was
a very good landing.
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You do a job, man.
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[ Laughter ]
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Linney: "One night,
he just fell out of bed.
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I found him on the floor
with his head bleeding.
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And I came as close
as I ever had to saying,
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'Well, this is it.'"
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Sorry, but I was forced
to kick the crap...
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"I just can't stand it.
I just can't stand it."
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Come on up.
I forgot something.
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"It was one
of many, many times."
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Hank.
Let go of me, Leeland!
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Hank, co--
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Are you all right?
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Whee!
Whee, whee.
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When I dream,
I'm still a child.
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I can run,
I can skate.
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Last night, I held hands
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with the boy
who sat behind me
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in Miss Tristrum's
class.
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And I woke up,
and I was so heartbroken.
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I'm an old woman.
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Oh.
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I won't even dignify that
with a comment.
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My God,
you're a spring chicken.
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You got your whole life
ahead of you yet.
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It'll go by
like a weekend.
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There's no time
for anything.
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You know, sometimes I stand
in the middle of my room
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and I wonder
what I'm doing here
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with, uh, with
the scissors in my hand.
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The whole morning
goes by,
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and all I've done
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is take the stockings
out of the drawer.
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[ Sniffles ]
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Listen.
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They give you
a cupful of time,
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you drink it or you spill it
on the floor.
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You think time cares
what you do?
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That won't have to be me.
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Got everything?
Yeah.
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Clea:
She got so upset with him
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that she put us all in the car
and drove us out to Malibu.
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And I mean, basically left him
and said, "I'm done."
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Ethan: He shows up at this house
and knocks on the door
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and all his kids are inside
and she's there and she says,
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"No, this isn't your house.
You don't live here.
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We live here."
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And he says, "I'm -- I'm
coming -- coming home."
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And she says,
"Not unless you quit drinking."
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And he's like, "Uh, I don't do
well with ultimatums."
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[ Camera shutter clicks ]
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Clea: And, um, and he slept --
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I don't know
if it was, like, overnight
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one night or two nights
or four weeks or what it was.
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But he was
in the driveway sleeping,
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and she would not let him in.
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She's like,
"There's no negotiations.
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This is not a negotiation.
This is -- this is it."
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And finally, I was forced
to ring the front doorbell.
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She answered the door
and I said,
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"I have no place to go."
[ Chuckles ]
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And he says...
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"How about hard alcohol?
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Only beer?"
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And she says, "Okay,"
and she opens it in.
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Melissa:
She was also very difficult.
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"I really hate this,"
she complained.
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"I hate everything
about the promotion tours.
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In fact, the only thing I like
about acting is acting."
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She was mercurial.
She was anxiety driven.
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She could hold a grudge.
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She could be
very dark and moody.
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She could be really charming.
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She was fiercely loving,
all these things.
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She wasn't easy.
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Interviewer: I know it's not --
Well, it has to be a drama.
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But what is the message?
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Oh, my God.
Don't ask me.
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What's the picture about?
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It's about two hours.
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[ Both laughing ]
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And he made it work
with her, too.
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And I think that was part
of what he was so intrigued by.
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Quinn: And, of course,
everyone wanted to know
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what it's really like
to live with Paul Newman.
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"We never discuss each other.
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We never discuss each other's
film," she would say patiently.
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Clea:
I mean, they were artists.
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And so when they got in a fight,
it was a lot of, like,
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yelling and throwing,
both storming off.
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You know, it was very, like,
romantic and high-powered.
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Quinn:
She begged to be off duty
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as soon as
she introduced her film
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at the last stop of the day.
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It was 6:30
at the American Film Institute.
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Then she left at the hotel
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where her husband, Paul Newman,
was to join her.
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No press allowed.
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Sally Quinn, CBS News.
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Man #2:
Winner is Joanne Woodward
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for "Summer Wishes,
Winter Dreams."
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[ Cheers and applause ]
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Interviewer #2: There's
another very important film,
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"Summer Wishes,
Winter Dreams."
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Woodward: I thought
it was some of my best work,
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and I think everybody
in it was wonderful
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and it was not a success.
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And I said, "Well, you know,
it's all downhill from now
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because there are not a lot
of parts at that age
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or past,
sort of the leading lady,
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unless you're Jane Fonda."
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Niven: Joanne, I understand
that a former winner
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of the Society's
Best Actor Award
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is beside you waiting
to give you yours.
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In fact, he'd been beside you
for several years.
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Paul Newman,
please expose yourself.
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[ Cheers and applause ]
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Good evening, David.
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I don't know
whether you know it,
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but it's not --
it's not all that easy
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being the husband of a famous
motion-picture star.
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Joanne.
My love.
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Clooney: "Joanne and I
seem to have grown.
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We've moved towards
a kind of final solution
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to this acting question."
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She seemed to have no ego, yet
there was a towering ego there,
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one moment filled
with the sense of worth,
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and the next simply shattered.
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So when she would lapse,
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I'd understand
and hold her blameless.
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And she would understand me
in the end."
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Wait a minute.
Hold it.
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Boy, you look terrific.
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So do you...
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except you got a little gray
over your ears there.
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That's the only
difference.
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Everything else works
about the same.
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Ethan: Rilke said this, "Once
the realization is accepted
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that even between
the closest human beings,
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infinite distances continue,
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a wonderful living
side by side can grow,
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if they succeed in loving
the distance between them
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which makes it possible
for each to see the other
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whole against the sky."
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Clooney:
"In protecting yourselves
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and not ruffling
one another's feathers,
252
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you can become noncombatants."
253
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I never can
get these things off.
254
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Maybe you shouldn't try.
255
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[ Cork pops ]
256
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"And you can begin to cater.
257
00:12:15,444 --> 00:12:18,697
There's a sense
of catering there sometimes."
258
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"But whatever it is,
it's equal.
259
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I simply delight in her."
260
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♪♪
261
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♪♪
262
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♪♪
263
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Linney: "There were times when
Paul and I both had to hang in,
264
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when it felt like
265
00:12:50,479 --> 00:12:53,857
that the marriage
wouldn't last another day."
266
00:12:56,109 --> 00:12:57,903
"We had to step outside
of ourselves
267
00:12:57,986 --> 00:13:01,156
and become aware of three things
that were operating --
268
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my ego, his ego and our ego."
269
00:13:06,828 --> 00:13:09,039
"For the relationship
to survive,
270
00:13:09,122 --> 00:13:11,583
we had to put
the his and hers on hold
271
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and just go for the our."
272
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♪♪
273
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Ethan: I think the documentary
should be about the space
274
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between them,
275
00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:27,599
meaning, "I'm centered
and safe in my life
276
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and we can both expand."
277
00:13:30,185 --> 00:13:32,437
The love expands you, right?
278
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♪♪
279
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Announcer: Gentlemen...
280
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start your engines.
281
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[ Motors revving ]
282
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I wore
my Bubba Wallace T-shirt
283
00:13:49,329 --> 00:13:51,123
in honor of Paul today.
284
00:13:51,206 --> 00:13:52,499
I've been trying to learn
285
00:13:52,583 --> 00:13:54,710
about racecar driving,
you know?
286
00:13:54,793 --> 00:13:56,003
Yeah.
287
00:13:56,086 --> 00:13:58,088
Because I just don't know
anything about it.
288
00:13:58,171 --> 00:14:00,966
Yeah, and I don't know
if I even get it.
289
00:14:01,049 --> 00:14:02,342
Interviewer #3:
You're quite serious
290
00:14:02,426 --> 00:14:04,720
about wanting to be
a racing driver.
291
00:14:04,803 --> 00:14:08,557
Pretty hard to start something
like that when you're 47.
292
00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,350
Why is dance important?
293
00:14:10,434 --> 00:14:14,146
Somewhere inside myself,
for a brief moment,
294
00:14:14,229 --> 00:14:19,234
I am Margot Fonteyn
or Cynthia Gregory or...
295
00:14:19,318 --> 00:14:21,236
I mean, there is something
that you think,
296
00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:22,946
"That's the way
everybody ought to be."
297
00:14:23,030 --> 00:14:25,449
Man #2: Newman worked his way
into ninth
298
00:14:25,532 --> 00:14:27,576
in a credible,
if not satisfying,
299
00:14:27,659 --> 00:14:30,162
first championship effort.
300
00:14:30,245 --> 00:14:32,748
The only good thing
was the bratwurst.
301
00:14:32,831 --> 00:14:35,542
Field: Paul had the things
he loved to do and that was it.
302
00:14:35,626 --> 00:14:39,838
I mean, he wanted to go racing
and get me in his freaking car.
303
00:14:39,921 --> 00:14:42,883
I said, "No."
[ Laughs ]
304
00:14:42,966 --> 00:14:44,343
but that's what he loved to do.
305
00:14:44,426 --> 00:14:46,178
So he would go and do that.
306
00:14:46,261 --> 00:14:47,971
And Joanne loved her theater.
307
00:14:48,055 --> 00:14:52,893
♪♪
308
00:14:52,976 --> 00:14:55,354
Woodward:
Who are these people?
309
00:14:55,437 --> 00:14:57,981
Fans.
I think they're all fans.
310
00:15:00,525 --> 00:15:02,694
I can't believe how often
I did this.
311
00:15:02,778 --> 00:15:05,530
I mean, I was at every race.
312
00:15:05,614 --> 00:15:09,576
It's what summer was all about.
313
00:15:09,660 --> 00:15:11,370
It was fun.
314
00:15:11,453 --> 00:15:13,205
Everybody had a good time.
315
00:15:13,288 --> 00:15:14,456
When Paul won,
316
00:15:14,539 --> 00:15:17,042
the kids would get to go
on the victory lap
317
00:15:17,125 --> 00:15:19,795
and we used to all pile
in the car.
318
00:15:21,213 --> 00:15:24,466
Like being a part
of a circus family.
319
00:15:24,549 --> 00:15:26,468
Ashmanskas: "The marriage
worked so well
320
00:15:26,551 --> 00:15:29,388
because they have
nothing in common.
321
00:15:29,471 --> 00:15:33,016
I mean, they really don't get
in each other's way.
322
00:15:33,100 --> 00:15:34,851
The wretched couples,
323
00:15:34,935 --> 00:15:38,021
the couples
that share the same desires,
324
00:15:38,105 --> 00:15:40,273
beliefs and hobbies,
325
00:15:40,357 --> 00:15:44,152
that is the couple
that is headed towards Reno."
326
00:15:44,236 --> 00:15:47,155
Is there one mutual interest
between the two of you?
327
00:15:49,658 --> 00:15:51,243
No.
328
00:15:51,326 --> 00:15:52,953
Do we have mutual interests?
329
00:15:53,036 --> 00:15:55,247
[ Speaks indistinctly ]
330
00:15:55,330 --> 00:15:56,581
Not really.
331
00:15:56,665 --> 00:15:58,917
Man #3: Get the fuck out
of there, will you?!
332
00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:00,627
Behind the net!
333
00:16:00,711 --> 00:16:02,879
Hey, Hanrahan,
she's a dyke!
334
00:16:02,963 --> 00:16:04,256
I know, I know!
335
00:16:04,339 --> 00:16:06,717
Scorsese: One of the secret
sauces to Paul
336
00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,929
is his just childish
sense of humor.
337
00:16:11,012 --> 00:16:13,598
[ Laughing ]
Well, you see it.
338
00:16:13,682 --> 00:16:15,475
You know, that terrific picture,
"Slap Shot."
339
00:16:15,559 --> 00:16:18,103
Him crazy.
[ Laughing ]
340
00:16:18,186 --> 00:16:20,397
[ Organ music playing ]
341
00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,442
♪♪
342
00:16:23,525 --> 00:16:26,528
Clooney: "I mean,
'Slap Shot' is a magical film.
343
00:16:26,611 --> 00:16:28,363
I don't know
what was magical about it,
344
00:16:28,447 --> 00:16:32,033
just original, sideways.
345
00:16:32,117 --> 00:16:35,328
Don't ever play
"Lady of Spain" again!
346
00:16:35,412 --> 00:16:38,290
Andretti: "Slap Shot," I can
watch that -- I don't know.
347
00:16:38,373 --> 00:16:40,542
[ Laughing ]
There was something about it.
348
00:16:40,625 --> 00:16:42,461
That's Paul, right?
349
00:16:42,544 --> 00:16:43,879
You know, you could tell
350
00:16:43,962 --> 00:16:46,047
that he was thoroughly enjoying
that performance
351
00:16:46,131 --> 00:16:48,383
because he could
just let it go.
352
00:16:48,467 --> 00:16:49,718
Reggie: Keep your heads on
the ice out there, will you?
353
00:16:49,801 --> 00:16:52,679
We all know
how to play hockey.
354
00:16:52,763 --> 00:16:53,930
Just play it smart.
355
00:16:54,014 --> 00:16:55,599
That's right.
Get out there and stick 'em!
356
00:16:55,682 --> 00:16:56,808
Fuck 'em! Christ!
357
00:16:56,892 --> 00:16:58,852
Let's go!
Come on!
358
00:16:58,935 --> 00:17:01,646
-Come on.
-Let's go now.
359
00:17:01,730 --> 00:17:03,732
We need this win, you know?
We got a lot of losses.
360
00:17:03,815 --> 00:17:05,108
Yeah,
we got a lot of 'em!
361
00:17:05,192 --> 00:17:09,362
[ Indistinct shouting ]
362
00:17:09,446 --> 00:17:10,781
That's what we're here for,
guys, to win.
363
00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,367
Play heads up out there.
I mean, let's be smart.
364
00:17:14,451 --> 00:17:16,953
Man for man, we're better than
any fucking club in the league
365
00:17:17,037 --> 00:17:18,121
if we just put our minds to it.
366
00:17:18,205 --> 00:17:19,164
[ Indistinct shouting ]
367
00:17:19,247 --> 00:17:20,874
No one's better than us!
Come on!
368
00:17:20,957 --> 00:17:23,168
Come on, Braden.
Our line's starting.
369
00:17:23,251 --> 00:17:26,338
[ Indistinct shouting ]
370
00:17:26,421 --> 00:17:28,882
Ethan: There's this movie
called "WUSA."
371
00:17:28,965 --> 00:17:31,301
He was trying
to make a political film,
372
00:17:31,384 --> 00:17:34,221
and he realized the movie's
just too serious.
Right.
373
00:17:34,304 --> 00:17:35,472
And then he made
a better political film
374
00:17:35,555 --> 00:17:36,598
with "Slap Shot."
375
00:17:36,681 --> 00:17:38,308
"Alright,
I'll make people laugh,
376
00:17:38,391 --> 00:17:41,520
and I'll make the same point
about how fucked up we all are.
377
00:17:41,603 --> 00:17:43,688
I'll be funny while I do it."
378
00:17:43,772 --> 00:17:45,524
Who owns the club anyway?
379
00:17:45,607 --> 00:17:47,859
I don't know.
You don't know?
380
00:17:47,943 --> 00:17:51,154
What do you mean?
The corporation owns it.
381
00:17:51,238 --> 00:17:52,989
Who cares.
You get your check, right?
382
00:17:53,073 --> 00:17:54,407
That's the spirit, Reg.
That's it.
383
00:17:54,491 --> 00:17:56,159
Clooney: "'Slap Shot's'
a complicated piece.
384
00:17:56,243 --> 00:17:58,078
It has to do
with our social system,
385
00:17:58,161 --> 00:18:00,163
using the sports world
as a metaphor.
386
00:18:00,247 --> 00:18:01,414
The chiseling,
387
00:18:01,498 --> 00:18:04,209
the team manipulated
by shadowy figures
388
00:18:04,292 --> 00:18:05,585
in the background
389
00:18:05,669 --> 00:18:07,587
who had no hands-on connection,
no allegiance,
390
00:18:07,671 --> 00:18:12,384
no understanding of that team
or the individuals on it."
391
00:18:12,467 --> 00:18:14,928
My accountant tells me
I'm better off folding the team,
392
00:18:15,011 --> 00:18:16,221
taking a tax loss.
393
00:18:16,304 --> 00:18:18,890
♪ I just can't stay away
no more ♪
394
00:18:18,974 --> 00:18:22,060
You mean you could sell us,
but you won't?
395
00:18:22,143 --> 00:18:25,856
I could probably sell you,
but I can't.
396
00:18:25,939 --> 00:18:28,024
♪ It's alright
and it's coming along ♪
397
00:18:28,108 --> 00:18:29,734
♪ We gotta get right back ♪
398
00:18:29,818 --> 00:18:32,445
Ethan: I mean, at its core,
"Slap Shot,"
399
00:18:32,529 --> 00:18:36,241
it's a complete indictment
of macho assholes
400
00:18:36,324 --> 00:18:37,701
written by a woman.
401
00:18:37,784 --> 00:18:39,786
The same woman -- she won
the Oscar for "Coming Home."
402
00:18:39,870 --> 00:18:43,331
It ends with them
all getting naked, you know,
403
00:18:43,415 --> 00:18:45,542
skating around,
like, in brassieres.
404
00:18:45,625 --> 00:18:47,210
-Right?
-Right.
405
00:18:47,294 --> 00:18:48,962
Clooney: "The striptease
at the end of the picture,
406
00:18:49,045 --> 00:18:53,008
the mendacity of it all had been
so outrageous, so depressing.
407
00:18:53,091 --> 00:18:55,468
Somebody finally had to just
take all their clothes off
408
00:18:55,552 --> 00:18:57,137
and piss on them.
409
00:18:57,220 --> 00:19:01,600
It was an unpremeditated scream
of protest against the system,
410
00:19:01,683 --> 00:19:05,604
manipulation, all the deals,
rituals, and garbage."
411
00:19:05,687 --> 00:19:08,815
[ Burlesque music playing ]
412
00:19:08,899 --> 00:19:14,613
♪♪
413
00:19:14,696 --> 00:19:16,239
Cavett: Do you have any desire
to be bigger?
414
00:19:16,323 --> 00:19:18,283
And what does it mean
to be bigger
415
00:19:18,366 --> 00:19:20,160
in someone's case
like yours?
416
00:19:20,243 --> 00:19:22,162
Um...uh, yes.
417
00:19:22,245 --> 00:19:23,663
Bigger?
418
00:19:23,747 --> 00:19:25,624
Bigger?
I suppose they mean --
419
00:19:25,707 --> 00:19:29,085
You know, somewhere along
that, I think I would like
420
00:19:29,169 --> 00:19:30,462
to have been, um,
421
00:19:30,545 --> 00:19:36,635
yes, uh,
able to do bigger roles.
422
00:19:36,718 --> 00:19:38,136
Superstar films.
423
00:19:38,219 --> 00:19:40,180
Yeah.
424
00:19:40,263 --> 00:19:43,099
Woodward: I really like working
on stage best, and I always did.
425
00:19:43,183 --> 00:19:45,518
So it's kind of nice
to have gone back to that.
426
00:19:45,602 --> 00:19:48,438
I had never done Shaw,
so I did "Candida."
427
00:19:48,521 --> 00:19:52,025
And I'd never done Noel Coward,
so I did "Hay Fever."
428
00:19:52,108 --> 00:19:54,152
Loved it.
429
00:19:54,235 --> 00:19:56,696
One of the loveliest things
for me to have done
430
00:19:56,780 --> 00:20:00,325
was I did "Glass Menagerie"
playing Amanda.
431
00:20:00,408 --> 00:20:03,286
And I had played Laura many,
many years before
432
00:20:03,370 --> 00:20:04,496
at the little theater
433
00:20:04,579 --> 00:20:07,374
where I'd started my career
as a kid.
434
00:20:07,457 --> 00:20:12,504
Just a little silver slip
of a moon.
435
00:20:12,587 --> 00:20:13,797
Ashmanskas: When Joanne says
436
00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,007
she doesn't think of herself
as a star,
437
00:20:16,091 --> 00:20:19,469
she means that she's not
considered
438
00:20:19,552 --> 00:20:21,513
by a studio bankable.
439
00:20:21,596 --> 00:20:22,555
...is taking a nap.
440
00:20:22,639 --> 00:20:23,848
I support the maid, too!
441
00:20:23,932 --> 00:20:25,767
You wake up Maria, Sonny,
I will...
442
00:20:25,850 --> 00:20:28,853
We fired Maria!
This is another Maria!
443
00:20:28,937 --> 00:20:31,147
But she is eternally a star
444
00:20:31,231 --> 00:20:34,401
in the sense
that she is a famous actress
445
00:20:34,484 --> 00:20:37,195
and one of the best actresses
and witness.
446
00:20:37,278 --> 00:20:39,698
She's constantly in demand.
447
00:20:42,242 --> 00:20:47,914
Field: Now, I had had almost
an impossible journey
448
00:20:47,998 --> 00:20:50,583
out of situational-comedy
television
449
00:20:50,667 --> 00:20:55,005
because I was in a television
situation comedy in the '60s,
450
00:20:55,088 --> 00:20:57,549
and you just simply
didn't get out of that.
451
00:20:57,632 --> 00:20:59,759
So by the time
"Sybil" came along,
452
00:20:59,843 --> 00:21:01,219
no one wanted me there.
453
00:21:01,302 --> 00:21:03,013
You could feel it in the room.
454
00:21:03,096 --> 00:21:04,514
"What,
are we wasting our time?"
455
00:21:04,597 --> 00:21:07,017
And I will never forget it.
456
00:21:07,100 --> 00:21:09,728
She was sitting on
a kind of armchair.
457
00:21:09,811 --> 00:21:13,648
There was no moment between,
"How do you do?"
458
00:21:13,732 --> 00:21:15,817
We were two actors
that went...whoosh.
459
00:21:15,900 --> 00:21:17,152
[ Crying ]
I'm scared.
460
00:21:17,235 --> 00:21:19,821
Sybil?
461
00:21:19,904 --> 00:21:22,574
I hate Sybil.
I hate her.
462
00:21:22,657 --> 00:21:23,867
Who are you?
463
00:21:23,950 --> 00:21:25,994
I can do anything.
I can do anything I want.
464
00:21:26,077 --> 00:21:27,579
And I'll never forget.
465
00:21:27,662 --> 00:21:32,417
At the end of this one scene,
I was on the ground,
466
00:21:32,500 --> 00:21:35,378
and I crawled over
and I was crying.
467
00:21:35,462 --> 00:21:38,882
And I laid my head on her knee,
468
00:21:38,965 --> 00:21:43,970
and she touched the top
of my head very, very slightly.
469
00:21:44,054 --> 00:21:46,765
And I took her --
She had a long scarf on.
470
00:21:46,848 --> 00:21:51,269
I took her scarf
and wiped my nose on it.
471
00:21:51,352 --> 00:21:54,564
And I had heard --
Stewart told me
472
00:21:54,647 --> 00:21:57,150
Joanne had turned to them
and said,
473
00:21:57,233 --> 00:22:00,612
"If it isn't Sally,
then I'm not Dr. Wilbur."
474
00:22:00,695 --> 00:22:02,405
That's Vanessa,
475
00:22:02,489 --> 00:22:05,825
and she's got all your music
for safekeeping.
476
00:22:09,621 --> 00:22:13,124
And i-it changed my life.
477
00:22:13,208 --> 00:22:17,170
And all of a sudden,
I saw one ant
478
00:22:17,253 --> 00:22:21,966
who was struggling
to pick up this grain of sand
479
00:22:22,050 --> 00:22:25,637
that was far too heavy
for her to lift.
480
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,348
And he struggled
and he struggled.
481
00:22:28,431 --> 00:22:32,519
And pretty soon,
another ant came by
482
00:22:32,602 --> 00:22:35,814
and together,
the two of them
483
00:22:35,897 --> 00:22:37,273
lifted the grain of sand
484
00:22:37,357 --> 00:22:39,359
and started
to carry it away.
485
00:22:39,442 --> 00:22:41,653
Now,
isn't that miraculous,
486
00:22:41,736 --> 00:22:45,323
how much two creatures
can accomplish together
487
00:22:45,406 --> 00:22:48,326
when they care
about each other?
488
00:22:48,409 --> 00:22:56,209
♪♪
489
00:22:56,292 --> 00:22:58,503
Lew: I am required by law
to advise you guys
490
00:22:58,586 --> 00:22:59,838
that my hands
are registered
491
00:22:59,921 --> 00:23:01,673
in the state of California
as lethal weapons.
492
00:23:01,756 --> 00:23:03,007
Do you understand?
493
00:23:03,091 --> 00:23:05,718
Oh, really?
Black belt, huh?
494
00:23:05,802 --> 00:23:06,970
You betcha.
495
00:23:07,053 --> 00:23:09,139
A little "Show me yours."
496
00:23:09,222 --> 00:23:13,059
♪♪
497
00:23:13,143 --> 00:23:15,353
Uh, it's a different
ballgame.
498
00:23:15,437 --> 00:23:17,313
I was just --
I was just kidding.
499
00:23:17,397 --> 00:23:19,607
I'm a brown belt, actually.
Where do you want me to sit?
500
00:23:19,691 --> 00:23:22,485
Man #1: That was a very
difficult time for him --
501
00:23:22,569 --> 00:23:24,362
"Drowning Pool."
502
00:23:24,445 --> 00:23:27,198
I remember once we were shooting
in New Orleans
503
00:23:27,282 --> 00:23:29,200
and his kids came to visit.
504
00:23:29,284 --> 00:23:31,494
You know, listen,
you're gonna have to decide
505
00:23:31,578 --> 00:23:34,205
whether it's useful or not
to use this, but --
506
00:23:34,289 --> 00:23:37,458
Because I think it's terribly
personal what I'm about to say,
507
00:23:37,542 --> 00:23:38,877
and I'm not sure I should.
508
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,088
But, you know, I remember
his son came to visit
509
00:23:42,172 --> 00:23:44,048
and his two daughters.
510
00:23:44,132 --> 00:23:46,342
And we had the streets
roped off,
511
00:23:46,426 --> 00:23:48,094
and we had the police there.
512
00:23:48,178 --> 00:23:51,764
Everybody in the world was out
to get a glimpse of Paul Newman,
513
00:23:51,848 --> 00:23:53,016
the giant superstar.
514
00:23:53,099 --> 00:23:55,101
And I don't know
what caused the argument,
515
00:23:55,185 --> 00:23:57,395
but he had an argument
with his son
516
00:23:57,478 --> 00:24:01,399
and his son, in very loud terms
so that people could hear,
517
00:24:01,482 --> 00:24:03,276
started putting Paul down.
518
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,111
And I was amazed.
519
00:24:05,195 --> 00:24:07,947
I was just --
I was destroyed.
520
00:24:08,031 --> 00:24:11,284
I mean, I don't think
I want to tell you what he said.
521
00:24:11,367 --> 00:24:16,080
It was so personal and private
that I just --
522
00:24:16,164 --> 00:24:17,665
I don't think that I should.
523
00:24:17,749 --> 00:24:20,585
I don't think I would like
to remind Paul of it
524
00:24:20,668 --> 00:24:22,795
because it was so disturbed.
525
00:24:22,879 --> 00:24:31,054
♪♪
526
00:24:31,137 --> 00:24:33,848
Woodward: Scott sky diving.
527
00:24:37,518 --> 00:24:39,270
Strange.
528
00:24:39,354 --> 00:24:43,775
♪♪
529
00:24:43,858 --> 00:24:47,278
I never understood the desire
to do this.
530
00:24:47,362 --> 00:24:52,700
♪♪
531
00:24:52,784 --> 00:24:54,410
Kazan: "I mean,
I've had a lot of people
532
00:24:54,494 --> 00:24:58,248
say to me now, you know,
'What could you have done?'
533
00:24:58,331 --> 00:24:59,832
And there's still
a large part of me
534
00:24:59,916 --> 00:25:02,877
that feels I could actually
have done something.
535
00:25:02,961 --> 00:25:05,088
And I think that Paul,
536
00:25:05,171 --> 00:25:07,840
for whatever reason of his own,
wanted him to be
537
00:25:07,924 --> 00:25:11,135
a macho little boy,
an unafraid little boy,
538
00:25:11,219 --> 00:25:15,014
a boy who could drive cars,
ride horses,
539
00:25:15,098 --> 00:25:17,976
all which Scott did
and all of which Scott
540
00:25:18,059 --> 00:25:22,814
supposedly was crazy to do,
but I got to tell you
541
00:25:22,897 --> 00:25:26,818
that there was a large part
of me that wonders.
542
00:25:26,901 --> 00:25:29,487
Just as I have always wondered
about Paul's desire
543
00:25:29,570 --> 00:25:31,823
to drive cars."
544
00:25:31,906 --> 00:25:35,493
Woodward: There's Paul's car,
which was a disaster
545
00:25:35,576 --> 00:25:39,831
and broke down and crashed
and did everything except win.
546
00:25:39,914 --> 00:25:45,920
Kazan: "To me, it's like a big
man playing a little boy.
547
00:25:46,004 --> 00:25:47,505
That's the way it is."
548
00:25:47,588 --> 00:25:49,966
Announcer #2: ...gain this
experience very rapidly.
549
00:25:50,049 --> 00:25:51,801
The more experience
he gets on the track,
550
00:25:51,884 --> 00:25:53,720
the better he's gonna do.
551
00:25:53,803 --> 00:25:56,431
Poltermann:
"And Scott got in trouble
552
00:25:56,514 --> 00:25:57,807
at Valley Forge.
553
00:25:57,890 --> 00:26:00,351
You were so shaken that you
couldn't drive down there.
554
00:26:00,435 --> 00:26:02,478
It was the only time
I've ever seen you
555
00:26:02,562 --> 00:26:03,813
unable to drive."
556
00:26:06,149 --> 00:26:08,026
Clooney:
"He had a girl in his room.
557
00:26:08,109 --> 00:26:10,528
That's what it was.
558
00:26:10,611 --> 00:26:12,196
It came hot on the heels
of a wreck
559
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:13,489
that he'd had in Connecticut.
560
00:26:13,573 --> 00:26:15,450
He wrecked a car
after making promises
561
00:26:15,533 --> 00:26:20,580
and going back to school
and he brought chaos again."
562
00:26:23,583 --> 00:26:25,710
"I remember at the end
of your talk,
563
00:26:25,793 --> 00:26:28,338
after you came
to some sort of an agreement
564
00:26:28,421 --> 00:26:30,923
with the headmaster
and Scott hugged you
565
00:26:31,007 --> 00:26:35,094
and you said
that you felt forgiven.
566
00:26:35,178 --> 00:26:38,723
It was such a strange reversal
that you needed forgiveness,
567
00:26:38,806 --> 00:26:42,685
and he was
the one at fault."
568
00:26:42,769 --> 00:26:45,271
"Yeah."
569
00:26:48,107 --> 00:26:50,568
Hamilton: "I developed a real
affection for Scott
570
00:26:50,651 --> 00:26:52,904
on the film 'Waldo Pepper.'
571
00:26:52,987 --> 00:26:57,241
He was not particularly
well-liked by anybody else."
572
00:26:57,325 --> 00:26:58,493
What are they doing?
573
00:26:58,576 --> 00:27:00,870
"He was alternately brash
and reticent,
574
00:27:00,953 --> 00:27:04,248
and there were times
when he went a little crazy.
575
00:27:04,332 --> 00:27:08,294
And Paul tried everything he
could to straighten him out.
576
00:27:08,378 --> 00:27:10,588
I felt sorry for Scott."
577
00:27:10,671 --> 00:27:11,964
We put her up
on the wing --
578
00:27:12,048 --> 00:27:13,841
Yeah, and she'll fake
being afraid.
Right.
579
00:27:13,925 --> 00:27:17,678
And the wind will
blew her clothes off.
Yes!
580
00:27:17,762 --> 00:27:20,890
"He always made a special place
for Scott in his mind."
581
00:27:20,973 --> 00:27:23,184
Jesus Christ!
It's one of our men.
582
00:27:23,267 --> 00:27:24,727
Oh, God.
583
00:27:24,811 --> 00:27:28,272
[ Camera shutter clicking ]
584
00:27:28,356 --> 00:27:31,150
"But you don't do anybody any
good by feeling sorry for them."
585
00:27:33,152 --> 00:27:34,904
Poltermann:
"Do you remember anything
586
00:27:34,987 --> 00:27:38,282
about Scott's therapy?"
587
00:27:38,366 --> 00:27:40,326
Kazan: "I remember
588
00:27:40,410 --> 00:27:45,623
that his doctor
tried to point out to me
589
00:27:45,706 --> 00:27:48,209
that what I had really
better focus my attention on
590
00:27:48,292 --> 00:27:51,421
was Scott's relationship
with his father.
591
00:27:51,504 --> 00:27:54,799
He asked Paul if he would
be willing to come out
592
00:27:54,882 --> 00:27:58,636
and, um, sit with us.
593
00:27:58,719 --> 00:28:04,225
The doctor had a small,
round-like coffee table,
594
00:28:04,308 --> 00:28:06,644
and Paul never met this man
before in his life.
595
00:28:06,727 --> 00:28:10,815
He took off his shoes, put his
stocking feet up on the table,
596
00:28:10,898 --> 00:28:13,276
and sat back like this."
597
00:28:15,069 --> 00:28:17,196
"The doctor was furious,
and he told me afterwards
598
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,949
that Mr. Newman's attitude
made it perfectly clear to him
599
00:28:20,032 --> 00:28:21,868
that he was not interested
in getting involved
600
00:28:21,951 --> 00:28:24,454
in Scott's therapy in any kind
of constructive way."
601
00:28:24,537 --> 00:28:29,208
♪♪
602
00:28:29,292 --> 00:28:30,668
"Oh, God. [ Sighs ]
603
00:28:30,751 --> 00:28:32,753
I vowed I would never do this.
604
00:28:32,837 --> 00:28:34,255
[ Chuckles, sniffles ]
605
00:28:34,338 --> 00:28:38,426
Get angry over this lack
of coming to grips with Scott."
606
00:28:39,969 --> 00:28:41,179
"I feel very guilty
607
00:28:41,262 --> 00:28:43,306
that I didn't come to grips
with Scott."
608
00:28:43,389 --> 00:28:48,686
♪♪
609
00:28:48,769 --> 00:28:53,858
♪♪
610
00:28:53,941 --> 00:28:56,194
Clooney: "When Jackie says
that therapist judged
611
00:28:56,277 --> 00:28:58,404
that I didn't care about Scott
because I put my feet
612
00:28:58,488 --> 00:29:01,407
on his desk, I asked him,
'Why did I fly to California?
613
00:29:01,491 --> 00:29:04,035
Why did I come to his office
if I didn't care?'
614
00:29:04,118 --> 00:29:06,704
Putting my feet up
relaxes my tension
615
00:29:06,787 --> 00:29:08,873
or helps mask my anxiety.
616
00:29:08,956 --> 00:29:10,374
Does that mean
I'm any less interested
617
00:29:10,458 --> 00:29:13,878
in what the hell
he has to tell me?
618
00:29:13,961 --> 00:29:16,088
How dare he say I don't care?
619
00:29:16,172 --> 00:29:19,217
He was looking at things through
the lens of his own information.
620
00:29:19,300 --> 00:29:22,303
I am one of those people
who don't know things.
621
00:29:22,386 --> 00:29:24,388
My body, my mind
just doesn't get them.
622
00:29:24,472 --> 00:29:26,349
There's a lot I don't know
about myself.
623
00:29:26,432 --> 00:29:30,603
I know that I could have done
better with all my children.
624
00:29:30,686 --> 00:29:31,896
I could have been worse.
625
00:29:31,979 --> 00:29:33,064
I could have put them
all in closets
626
00:29:33,147 --> 00:29:34,398
and kicked the shit out of them
627
00:29:34,482 --> 00:29:36,859
or performed incest on them
or beat them up.
628
00:29:36,943 --> 00:29:39,278
But I didn't do
any of those things."
629
00:29:41,989 --> 00:29:43,324
"I could have been
more consistent.
630
00:29:43,407 --> 00:29:44,951
I could have been
more understanding.
631
00:29:45,034 --> 00:29:46,452
I could have been more patient.
632
00:29:46,536 --> 00:29:49,372
I could have stopped work
or never gone on location."
633
00:29:50,831 --> 00:29:53,960
"I could have done things that
might have made them different."
634
00:29:55,836 --> 00:29:59,257
"How different it would have
made them, I don't know."
635
00:30:02,218 --> 00:30:05,096
"It just would have had to have
been a different person."
636
00:30:05,179 --> 00:30:10,935
♪♪
637
00:30:11,018 --> 00:30:13,980
"I was heartened recently
when Stephanie remembered
638
00:30:14,063 --> 00:30:16,691
that when she came
to visit us one summer,
639
00:30:16,774 --> 00:30:19,485
I would come down
when they were in bed and say,
640
00:30:19,569 --> 00:30:21,946
'Oh. What's this?
A bag of potatoes?'
641
00:30:22,029 --> 00:30:24,615
Roll them up in blankets
and carry them around,
642
00:30:24,699 --> 00:30:25,866
slung over my shoulder.
643
00:30:25,950 --> 00:30:28,411
They played with delight."
644
00:30:30,246 --> 00:30:33,666
"I don't even remember
doing those nice things."
645
00:30:36,210 --> 00:30:38,754
"All I remember is
telling ghost stories."
646
00:30:40,631 --> 00:30:48,306
♪♪
647
00:30:48,389 --> 00:30:50,099
Melissa:
I'm thinking of a photograph
648
00:30:50,182 --> 00:30:53,311
that's in their apartment
in New York,
649
00:30:53,394 --> 00:30:55,771
the gallery wall
of photographs jammed in,
650
00:30:55,855 --> 00:30:59,358
and my dad did it all himself
with a hammer and nail.
651
00:30:59,442 --> 00:31:01,485
One of them is this picture
of my parents
652
00:31:01,569 --> 00:31:05,239
on the Aspetuck River
in a yellow raft."
653
00:31:06,198 --> 00:31:09,660
"I'm probably not imagining
that my dad has a beer.
654
00:31:09,744 --> 00:31:13,581
Pushing off and floating down
the Aspetuck together
655
00:31:13,664 --> 00:31:17,835
when they just needed
to get away.
656
00:31:17,918 --> 00:31:21,547
It was just those moments
which I think, you know,
657
00:31:21,631 --> 00:31:25,635
are the -- really the fabric
that held them together."
658
00:31:27,637 --> 00:31:29,555
Fairest voice,
softest hair,
659
00:31:29,639 --> 00:31:31,557
eyes the color
of the starlit night.
660
00:31:32,933 --> 00:31:36,687
Most beautiful woman
in all of creation.
661
00:31:36,771 --> 00:31:37,730
That's who that is.
662
00:31:37,813 --> 00:31:39,899
[ Gobbling ]
663
00:31:39,982 --> 00:31:42,109
Paul: I don't want to get
academic about this,
664
00:31:42,193 --> 00:31:43,653
but we have a tendency
in this country
665
00:31:43,736 --> 00:31:47,740
to make legends out
of a great many characters.
666
00:31:47,823 --> 00:31:50,701
Roy Bean is something
of an example of that.
667
00:31:50,785 --> 00:31:53,871
I mean, we make -- They
become fairy tales, really.
668
00:31:53,954 --> 00:31:55,623
The ancient Greeks
669
00:31:55,706 --> 00:31:59,418
worshipped at the feet
of Aphrodite.
670
00:31:59,502 --> 00:32:02,463
They loved mortal women
as well.
671
00:32:02,546 --> 00:32:05,466
The same goes for me.
672
00:32:05,549 --> 00:32:07,259
Cavett: How about
the "Time" review?
673
00:32:07,343 --> 00:32:08,678
Paul: Of what?
674
00:32:08,761 --> 00:32:09,970
Of "Judge Roy Bean."
They haven't told you about it?
675
00:32:10,054 --> 00:32:12,765
[ Laughter ]
676
00:32:12,848 --> 00:32:15,893
It was a very good review
for the bear,
677
00:32:15,976 --> 00:32:18,938
and a rather poor,
shabby review for myself.
678
00:32:19,021 --> 00:32:21,065
Hey, you, bear!
Hey, bear!
679
00:32:21,148 --> 00:32:23,901
[ Growls ]
680
00:32:23,984 --> 00:32:26,028
I'll have your hand
as well!
681
00:32:26,112 --> 00:32:28,239
I know!
I know! I know!
682
00:32:28,322 --> 00:32:30,574
Paul:
That is kind of interesting
683
00:32:30,658 --> 00:32:31,992
because it really shows
684
00:32:32,076 --> 00:32:34,203
a complete ignorance
about acting.
685
00:32:34,286 --> 00:32:35,538
I mean, there is no --
686
00:32:35,621 --> 00:32:37,873
Cavett: What? You're better
than the bear?
687
00:32:37,957 --> 00:32:39,750
No.
688
00:32:39,834 --> 00:32:42,503
If you -- if you're worth
your salt as an actor,
689
00:32:42,586 --> 00:32:45,548
you stand back gracefully
and give the bear the scene.
690
00:32:45,631 --> 00:32:47,174
[ Laughter ]
691
00:32:47,258 --> 00:32:49,176
Interviewer #4: Who do you think
is the best-adjusted star?
692
00:32:49,260 --> 00:32:51,178
Someone who is not
a prisoner of fame.
693
00:32:51,262 --> 00:32:52,263
Do you know what I mean?
694
00:32:52,346 --> 00:32:53,764
I think
my father's real good.
695
00:32:53,848 --> 00:32:55,141
You think he's really
good at it?
Yeah.
696
00:32:55,224 --> 00:32:56,517
In what sense?
I really do.
697
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,854
He's very down to earth.
698
00:32:59,937 --> 00:33:02,481
He seems to separate
his professional life
699
00:33:02,565 --> 00:33:04,734
from his personal life
fairly well
700
00:33:04,817 --> 00:33:08,529
and maintain some level
of sanity in the middle.
701
00:33:08,612 --> 00:33:11,240
Yeah. Do you think
he's proud of you?
702
00:33:11,323 --> 00:33:13,659
He loves me.
703
00:33:13,743 --> 00:33:16,203
Yes, I think
he is proud of me.
704
00:33:17,872 --> 00:33:20,082
Interviewer #5:
You know, when your life
705
00:33:20,166 --> 00:33:21,459
is so much playing roles,
706
00:33:21,542 --> 00:33:24,211
it seems like the idea
of being a movie star
707
00:33:24,295 --> 00:33:26,756
is almost like
another role to play.
708
00:33:26,839 --> 00:33:29,300
Do you ever feel that?
709
00:33:29,383 --> 00:33:31,135
I feel that,
but I don't play it.
710
00:33:31,218 --> 00:33:33,804
That's --
that's a real drag.
711
00:33:33,888 --> 00:33:37,224
Ashmanskas: "In this business,
the division of a star
712
00:33:37,308 --> 00:33:39,310
is somebody like Newman.
713
00:33:39,393 --> 00:33:40,728
He says he'll do a picture,
714
00:33:40,811 --> 00:33:43,522
and you can get $20 million
to make a picture.
715
00:33:43,606 --> 00:33:45,399
That's a star.
716
00:33:45,483 --> 00:33:47,735
But then at the same time,
so is Liberace."
717
00:33:47,818 --> 00:33:50,154
This is it.
This is the big one.
718
00:33:50,237 --> 00:33:53,574
This is
"The Towering Inferno."
719
00:33:53,657 --> 00:33:55,201
This is the picture,
ladies and gentlemen,
720
00:33:55,284 --> 00:33:57,495
that we here
at 20th Century Fox believe
721
00:33:57,578 --> 00:33:59,997
will be the biggest grosser
of next year.
722
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,584
Bigger, we think and hope, even
than "The Poseidon Adventure."
723
00:34:03,667 --> 00:34:06,337
Man #4: How many fuse terminals
did you check?
724
00:34:06,420 --> 00:34:08,923
[ Laughing ]
725
00:34:11,258 --> 00:34:14,178
How many fuse terminals
did you check?
726
00:34:14,261 --> 00:34:16,680
How many do I have to?
727
00:34:16,764 --> 00:34:19,683
What was it that actually
attracted you to this part
728
00:34:19,767 --> 00:34:21,560
in "Towering Inferno"?
729
00:34:21,644 --> 00:34:23,771
Can you talk about that?
730
00:34:23,854 --> 00:34:26,023
There's this interview with Paul
where he's --
731
00:34:26,106 --> 00:34:28,442
They're asking why he's doing
"Towering Inferno," right?
732
00:34:28,526 --> 00:34:29,735
It's like, "Look,
733
00:34:29,819 --> 00:34:31,862
it's all anybody wants
to make right now."
734
00:34:31,946 --> 00:34:33,781
It's gonna be frightening.
735
00:34:36,575 --> 00:34:40,329
It's original
in that it deals with, uh...
736
00:34:40,412 --> 00:34:43,666
The adventure is -- is cloaked
in an original envelope,
737
00:34:43,749 --> 00:34:47,461
which is the height
and fire.
738
00:34:47,545 --> 00:34:51,882
And you feel him -- and I see it
in some of his weirder movies --
739
00:34:51,966 --> 00:34:54,218
longing
to do something original.
740
00:34:54,301 --> 00:34:57,096
[ Bugle playing reveille ]
741
00:34:57,179 --> 00:35:01,725
♪♪
742
00:35:01,809 --> 00:35:04,395
Narrator: Robert Altman and
Paul Newman are making a film
743
00:35:04,478 --> 00:35:07,064
about the selling
of an American legend.
744
00:35:07,148 --> 00:35:08,440
Together, they are re-creating
745
00:35:08,524 --> 00:35:11,902
the greatest Wild West
extravaganza ever staged.
746
00:35:11,986 --> 00:35:14,530
Man #5: "He kept saying that
he was playing himself.
747
00:35:14,613 --> 00:35:16,031
He was Buffalo Bill."
748
00:35:16,115 --> 00:35:18,200
That's my star.
749
00:35:18,284 --> 00:35:21,245
He belongs to all of us.
750
00:35:21,328 --> 00:35:23,414
Our star.
751
00:35:23,497 --> 00:35:24,832
America's.
752
00:35:24,915 --> 00:35:27,084
"He kept saying, 'I'm not
playing Buffalo Bill.
753
00:35:27,168 --> 00:35:29,628
I'm playing Redford,
I'm playing McQueen,
754
00:35:29,712 --> 00:35:31,338
I'm playing Newman.
755
00:35:31,422 --> 00:35:35,467
I'm playing movie stars because
that's what Buffalo Bill is.'"
756
00:35:35,551 --> 00:35:38,929
♪♪
757
00:35:39,013 --> 00:35:41,765
Paul: I just looked upon him
as the first movie star
758
00:35:41,849 --> 00:35:43,475
and went from there.
759
00:35:43,559 --> 00:35:47,271
There's nothing the matter
with laughing at your heroes.
760
00:35:47,354 --> 00:35:48,689
And the reason
that I'm enjoying this,
761
00:35:48,772 --> 00:35:50,274
probably more than
any other reason,
762
00:35:50,357 --> 00:35:53,694
is that it really murders me
and Redford and Gable
763
00:35:53,777 --> 00:35:57,448
and Tracy and McQueen
because there's simply no way
764
00:35:57,531 --> 00:35:59,491
that a human being can sustain
765
00:35:59,575 --> 00:36:02,620
what has become legendary
about him over the years.
766
00:36:02,703 --> 00:36:04,496
Man #5: "It's about the
beginning of celebrity,
767
00:36:04,580 --> 00:36:06,123
of show business
and who makes it out?
768
00:36:06,206 --> 00:36:09,460
The agents, the writers,
the PR people, the producers."
769
00:36:09,543 --> 00:36:11,712
Buffalo Bill: You was just
in Europe, wasn't you?
770
00:36:11,795 --> 00:36:13,130
Give my regards
to the queen?
771
00:36:13,213 --> 00:36:14,798
Yes, they're still talking
about you, Bill.
772
00:36:14,882 --> 00:36:16,425
Can't wait
for your return.
773
00:36:16,508 --> 00:36:18,552
Bill, this will be
our biggest year.
774
00:36:18,636 --> 00:36:20,554
We're gonna gross
over $2 million.
775
00:36:20,638 --> 00:36:23,807
Did I ever tell you
that I hold the record
776
00:36:23,891 --> 00:36:25,809
for continuous riding
of Pony Express,
777
00:36:25,893 --> 00:36:28,646
322 miles
in 18 days?
778
00:36:28,729 --> 00:36:29,980
"He was determined to strip
779
00:36:30,064 --> 00:36:32,483
any sense of admiration
out of the man,
780
00:36:32,566 --> 00:36:35,069
the frightened man
inside the shell of a star,
781
00:36:35,152 --> 00:36:37,529
a man who had tremendous scorn
for himself."
782
00:36:37,613 --> 00:36:41,492
Can he ride
that horse right?
783
00:36:41,575 --> 00:36:43,410
But if he ain't...
784
00:36:46,997 --> 00:36:50,209
How come all of you
took him for a king?
785
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,890
♪♪
786
00:37:04,974 --> 00:37:06,850
Considine:
Whatever was happening,
787
00:37:06,934 --> 00:37:08,352
at a certain time every night,
788
00:37:08,435 --> 00:37:11,689
I noticed Paul excused himself
and disappeared,
789
00:37:11,772 --> 00:37:14,316
and I finally asked him,
"Where do you go?"
790
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:20,155
And where he went was back
to his room every single night,
791
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:21,824
and he'd call Joanne
792
00:37:21,907 --> 00:37:25,744
and he would talk on the phone
for, like, an hour to Joanne.
793
00:37:25,828 --> 00:37:27,830
I said,
"You do that every day?"
794
00:37:27,913 --> 00:37:29,915
He said,
"Every day without fail."
795
00:37:29,999 --> 00:37:33,669
[ Singing operatic aria ]
796
00:37:33,752 --> 00:37:36,922
♪♪
797
00:37:37,006 --> 00:37:39,925
Linney: "Dear love,
what a terrible invention
798
00:37:40,009 --> 00:37:41,093
of the telephone.
799
00:37:41,176 --> 00:37:42,386
At least for me.
800
00:37:42,469 --> 00:37:44,680
Tonight I felt
as though I were intruding
801
00:37:44,763 --> 00:37:46,765
and that you really
didn't want to talk.
802
00:37:46,849 --> 00:37:50,978
I loathe
my extrasensory perception.
803
00:37:51,061 --> 00:37:53,230
I miss you.
804
00:37:53,313 --> 00:37:55,858
I don't know who you are.
805
00:37:55,941 --> 00:37:58,110
But I miss you anyway.
806
00:37:58,193 --> 00:38:00,487
I just wish you were happy
807
00:38:00,571 --> 00:38:02,906
and that you could say
what you feel,
808
00:38:02,990 --> 00:38:04,408
not just what you think.
809
00:38:04,491 --> 00:38:07,369
Me."
810
00:38:07,453 --> 00:38:10,497
Clooney: "My love,
I'm on board the plane
811
00:38:10,581 --> 00:38:13,167
to Johnstown, Pennsylvania.
812
00:38:13,250 --> 00:38:14,918
I stopped off
to the P.J. Clarke's
813
00:38:15,002 --> 00:38:16,628
for a hamburger
before embarking,
814
00:38:16,712 --> 00:38:20,591
and I must say
I was filled with nostalgia.
815
00:38:20,674 --> 00:38:23,552
I remember sitting
on the curbside singing songs
816
00:38:23,635 --> 00:38:24,928
at 2:00 in the morning.
817
00:38:25,012 --> 00:38:27,931
The Third Avenue "L"
still in operation.
818
00:38:28,015 --> 00:38:31,602
Your apartment on 51st Street
and 11th Street.
819
00:38:31,685 --> 00:38:33,270
Dancing backstage at 'Picnic.'
820
00:38:33,353 --> 00:38:37,483
No one can deny that these
moments exist in time and space,
821
00:38:37,566 --> 00:38:39,276
and for all we know,
may be recorded
822
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,447
at electric energy for eternity
at 180 million miles per second.
823
00:38:45,199 --> 00:38:48,452
"We have access to all kinds
of facsimiles.
824
00:38:48,535 --> 00:38:51,497
Tomorrow, next week, next year.
825
00:38:51,580 --> 00:38:52,873
When we get scratchy,
826
00:38:52,956 --> 00:38:55,000
get going with bad
solitary dialogs,
827
00:38:55,084 --> 00:38:56,877
we ought to remember
that we had the option
828
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,421
to choose good
solitary dialogs also.
829
00:38:59,505 --> 00:39:03,342
The years
bear witness to that."
830
00:39:05,010 --> 00:39:08,013
"Funny thoughts at 22,000 feet.
831
00:39:08,097 --> 00:39:09,306
Kisses. Paul."
832
00:39:09,389 --> 00:39:15,562
♪♪
833
00:39:15,646 --> 00:39:18,273
"P.S.
Got news this morning.
834
00:39:18,357 --> 00:39:22,820
Scott went on another bad,
destructive bender.
835
00:39:22,903 --> 00:39:25,030
Is he gonna survive or not?"
836
00:39:26,907 --> 00:39:29,993
"One wonders."
837
00:39:30,077 --> 00:39:32,830
Now, ladies and gentlemen,
here he is,
838
00:39:32,913 --> 00:39:34,665
a chip off the old engine block
839
00:39:34,748 --> 00:39:37,501
of his racing-champion father
Paul Newman,
840
00:39:37,584 --> 00:39:40,629
the young actor Scott Newman.
841
00:39:40,712 --> 00:39:42,631
[ Cheers and applause ]
842
00:39:42,714 --> 00:39:49,638
♪♪
843
00:39:49,721 --> 00:39:54,143
♪♪
844
00:39:54,226 --> 00:39:57,688
[ Engine revving,
tires screeching ]
845
00:40:04,987 --> 00:40:07,239
Announcer: Scott Newman
has successfully
846
00:40:07,322 --> 00:40:10,159
jumped his sports car
over three automobiles.
847
00:40:10,242 --> 00:40:18,542
♪♪
848
00:40:18,625 --> 00:40:19,918
♪♪
849
00:40:20,002 --> 00:40:22,921
Man #6: The geometric shape
of the universe
850
00:40:23,005 --> 00:40:26,592
reflects the scheme of life.
851
00:40:26,675 --> 00:40:30,095
You've been taught
that they are the same.
852
00:40:30,179 --> 00:40:33,182
You've been taught
that the universe is bounded
853
00:40:33,265 --> 00:40:34,558
by five sides
854
00:40:34,641 --> 00:40:37,895
and that life
has but five stages.
855
00:40:37,978 --> 00:40:43,066
Premium the pain of birth.
856
00:40:43,150 --> 00:40:44,568
of the second some.
857
00:40:44,651 --> 00:40:46,486
Clooney: "Someday the force
of it's gonna hit me.
858
00:40:46,570 --> 00:40:48,780
All of it.
It still hasn't."
859
00:40:50,699 --> 00:40:52,743
"I don't know what
will trigger it,
860
00:40:52,826 --> 00:40:54,620
but it's still not resolved."
861
00:40:56,872 --> 00:40:59,333
"I did everything I could
to avoid recognizing
862
00:40:59,416 --> 00:41:01,835
that this had happened.
863
00:41:01,919 --> 00:41:03,962
I got a call very early
in the morning
864
00:41:04,046 --> 00:41:06,423
and went to some kind
of a brunch.
865
00:41:06,506 --> 00:41:08,508
Didn't say anything to anybody."
866
00:41:11,178 --> 00:41:13,764
"The whole thing had been
blunted by all those phone calls
867
00:41:13,847 --> 00:41:15,390
over the last six
or seven years,
868
00:41:15,474 --> 00:41:17,935
every one of which seemed to say
it's just around the corner.
869
00:41:18,018 --> 00:41:21,355
Something terrible
was gonna happen.
870
00:41:21,438 --> 00:41:22,940
There's been a crash.
He's missing.
871
00:41:23,023 --> 00:41:24,149
Nobody can find him.
872
00:41:24,233 --> 00:41:27,611
Calls from his doctors,
from Susan.
873
00:41:27,694 --> 00:41:28,946
It just seemed like there
was nothing
874
00:41:29,029 --> 00:41:31,865
that was ever gonna stop
that locomotive.
875
00:41:31,949 --> 00:41:34,326
You kept waiting
for the final call."
876
00:41:36,036 --> 00:41:39,498
"But when you finally got it,
you almost didn't believe it."
877
00:41:39,581 --> 00:41:46,129
♪♪
878
00:41:46,213 --> 00:41:49,132
"I had many times
gotten down on my knees
879
00:41:49,216 --> 00:41:51,802
and asked for Scott's
forgiveness for that part of me
880
00:41:51,885 --> 00:41:55,222
which provided the impetus
for his destruction."
881
00:41:57,224 --> 00:42:00,519
"I want to embrace
the responsibility for that."
882
00:42:03,063 --> 00:42:05,774
And you can't unload your skis
when you can't dance,
883
00:42:05,857 --> 00:42:09,194
when you can't
hit a tennis ball
884
00:42:09,278 --> 00:42:11,071
or read the signals
about your son
885
00:42:11,154 --> 00:42:15,325
until the condition
is beyond reversing it.
886
00:42:15,409 --> 00:42:16,660
And if you didn't get it,
887
00:42:16,743 --> 00:42:20,872
then you are someone
who doesn't get it.
888
00:42:20,956 --> 00:42:23,667
The only thing you can do
is say, 'Forgive me.'"
889
00:42:25,168 --> 00:42:28,672
"And the energy up there that
represents that kid will say,
890
00:42:28,755 --> 00:42:32,801
'What am I supposed to do
with that?'
891
00:42:32,884 --> 00:42:34,678
and give you the finger."
892
00:42:34,761 --> 00:42:41,393
♪♪
893
00:42:41,476 --> 00:42:48,859
♪♪
894
00:42:48,942 --> 00:42:51,236
Linner: "Paul went straight
to the mortuary.
895
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,073
He said it was a totally
complete experience.
896
00:42:55,157 --> 00:42:59,870
He said he just really had
to go there and be with Scott.
897
00:42:59,953 --> 00:43:03,040
And he said,
'I suddenly knew him
898
00:43:03,123 --> 00:43:06,501
and I was able to weep
and look at him and love him.'"
899
00:43:06,585 --> 00:43:13,383
♪♪
900
00:43:13,467 --> 00:43:20,098
♪♪
901
00:43:20,182 --> 00:43:22,267
"I kept trying to get myself
to go see Scott
902
00:43:22,351 --> 00:43:24,478
in the mortuary.
903
00:43:24,561 --> 00:43:27,064
The night
before I was going to go,
904
00:43:27,147 --> 00:43:32,110
I dreamed one of the most vivid
dreams I'd ever had in my life.
905
00:43:32,194 --> 00:43:34,321
Clea and Emily, who were
little girls in the dream
906
00:43:34,404 --> 00:43:36,573
and not the ages
they were at the time,
907
00:43:36,657 --> 00:43:41,161
they were going with me
to the mortuary to see Scott.
908
00:43:41,244 --> 00:43:46,083
We went up some stairs into
a room where Scott was lying,
909
00:43:46,166 --> 00:43:48,919
and he sat up
and sort of threw his legs
910
00:43:49,002 --> 00:43:50,754
over the edge of the coffin.
911
00:43:50,837 --> 00:43:53,465
He was sitting on the side
and we talked."
912
00:43:53,548 --> 00:43:58,970
♪♪
913
00:43:59,054 --> 00:44:02,224
"It was very warm, very loving.
914
00:44:02,307 --> 00:44:07,521
And after we've been talking for
a good while, he began to glow.
915
00:44:07,604 --> 00:44:09,981
And he realized he was glowing.
916
00:44:10,065 --> 00:44:13,652
And he said,
'I think you better go now.'"
917
00:44:15,654 --> 00:44:19,574
And I said, 'But Susan and Lissy
want a lock of your hair.'
918
00:44:19,658 --> 00:44:22,869
And he said, 'Alright.'
919
00:44:22,953 --> 00:44:25,914
His hair turned into leaves.
920
00:44:25,997 --> 00:44:29,835
And I remember cutting it
and thinking, 'How strange.
921
00:44:29,918 --> 00:44:32,462
Now, how am I gonna
put this in a locket?'"
922
00:44:32,546 --> 00:44:37,300
♪♪
923
00:44:37,384 --> 00:44:41,930
♪♪
924
00:44:42,013 --> 00:44:45,058
"I really, really believe
and still do
925
00:44:45,142 --> 00:44:48,019
that that was a clear
visitation."
926
00:44:48,103 --> 00:44:53,400
♪♪
927
00:44:53,483 --> 00:44:57,696
♪ Fire in a nameless town ♪
928
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:03,535
Hamilton: "When I heard the
terrible tragedy with Scott,
929
00:45:03,618 --> 00:45:07,456
I went to his dressing room,
his trailer.
930
00:45:07,539 --> 00:45:10,125
And we embraced.
931
00:45:10,208 --> 00:45:15,672
I said, 'Paul,
I don't know how to --
932
00:45:15,755 --> 00:45:18,425
I don't know
what one says to a person.
933
00:45:18,508 --> 00:45:20,677
I mean, I can conceive
of anything in the world
934
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:21,970
but losing a child.
935
00:45:22,053 --> 00:45:26,099
I just don't know what to say.'"
936
00:45:28,602 --> 00:45:31,188
He just said, 'Okay, sport.'
937
00:45:31,271 --> 00:45:39,237
♪♪
938
00:45:39,321 --> 00:45:41,406
Man #7: I don't have a great
memory about some things,
939
00:45:41,490 --> 00:45:43,658
and I can't tell you exactly
what he talked about,
940
00:45:43,742 --> 00:45:47,662
but it was the first personal
conversation I'd ever had.
941
00:45:47,746 --> 00:45:50,665
It wasn't a deep conversation.
942
00:45:50,749 --> 00:45:52,959
It was really just
a conversation
943
00:45:53,043 --> 00:45:54,294
about how tough it is
944
00:45:54,377 --> 00:45:57,756
to be the son of someone
who's an achiever.
945
00:45:57,839 --> 00:45:59,132
You know, he said,
946
00:45:59,216 --> 00:46:01,635
'I don't think I'd want to be
my own son.'"
947
00:46:03,553 --> 00:46:06,264
"And this racing thing
that he's done, I mean,
948
00:46:06,348 --> 00:46:08,600
to start at his age...'
949
00:46:08,683 --> 00:46:13,563
♪♪
950
00:46:13,647 --> 00:46:18,235
♪♪
951
00:46:18,318 --> 00:46:21,238
"You see, I think people who do
these things must see living
952
00:46:21,321 --> 00:46:24,324
as very, very dangerous.
953
00:46:24,407 --> 00:46:28,537
It's a dangerous thing to get up
in the morning and live.
954
00:46:28,620 --> 00:46:31,248
It's very dangerous and
you can't do much about that.
955
00:46:31,331 --> 00:46:33,416
But you can get into
a semi-dangerous situation
956
00:46:33,500 --> 00:46:35,252
that's controllable."
957
00:46:35,335 --> 00:46:37,796
Announcer #4: This last year,
Paul's fascination with racing
958
00:46:37,879 --> 00:46:40,006
has been such that
he's competed in more events
959
00:46:40,090 --> 00:46:41,967
than he ever has before.
960
00:46:42,050 --> 00:46:44,177
Some people think he's spending
more time
961
00:46:44,261 --> 00:46:47,430
with his racing career now
than with his movie career.
962
00:46:49,349 --> 00:46:50,475
Woodward:
I was worried about it.
963
00:46:50,559 --> 00:46:52,394
I really was
seriously concerned.
964
00:46:52,477 --> 00:46:54,104
His whole career
looked as though
965
00:46:54,187 --> 00:46:55,438
it was gonna go down the drain
966
00:46:55,522 --> 00:46:58,775
because all he wanted
to do was race.
967
00:46:58,858 --> 00:47:00,610
Man #7: "Life is a minefield.
968
00:47:00,694 --> 00:47:02,153
You can be hurt very badly,
969
00:47:02,237 --> 00:47:06,241
and you can be killed
emotionally in a way.
970
00:47:06,324 --> 00:47:08,827
Or I think that's
what people fear.
971
00:47:08,910 --> 00:47:11,830
I know I do.
972
00:47:11,913 --> 00:47:15,959
You cannot make life controlled.
You cannot control it.
973
00:47:16,042 --> 00:47:17,294
You cannot master life.
974
00:47:17,377 --> 00:47:20,463
You can't master
the technique of life."
975
00:47:20,547 --> 00:47:26,261
♪♪
976
00:47:26,344 --> 00:47:27,512
Woodward:
He's not a lot of spins.
977
00:47:27,596 --> 00:47:29,472
And there's been
a couple of times
978
00:47:29,556 --> 00:47:31,266
when we didn't come around.
979
00:47:31,349 --> 00:47:32,976
I'm sitting, waiting,
and saying,
980
00:47:33,059 --> 00:47:34,728
"What happened?
Where did he go?"
981
00:47:34,811 --> 00:47:38,023
[ Announcer speaking
indistinctly ]
982
00:47:38,106 --> 00:47:41,818
Man #7 "If I do the wrong thing
here, I'm gonna crash.
983
00:47:41,901 --> 00:47:45,822
And if I learn how to do it
right, we're not gonna crash."
984
00:47:47,407 --> 00:47:49,868
"Then it's gonna be beautiful.
985
00:47:49,951 --> 00:47:51,369
We're gonna fly away."
986
00:47:51,453 --> 00:47:56,333
♪♪
987
00:47:58,793 --> 00:48:01,963
Just drive the race
and try to stay alive.
988
00:48:02,047 --> 00:48:10,930
♪♪
989
00:48:16,895 --> 00:48:23,526
♪♪
990
00:48:23,610 --> 00:48:26,613
♪♪
991
00:48:26,696 --> 00:48:30,200
♪ Unwind ♪
992
00:48:30,283 --> 00:48:32,285
♪ Your watch ♪
993
00:48:34,162 --> 00:48:39,542
♪ Shut your eyes a minute ♪
994
00:48:39,626 --> 00:48:42,671
♪ 'Cause your heart ♪
995
00:48:42,754 --> 00:48:46,216
♪ Killed mine ♪
996
00:48:46,299 --> 00:48:53,264
♪ But now I close
the distance ♪
997
00:48:53,348 --> 00:48:59,396
♪ Wild hunger,
strikes into me ♪
998
00:48:59,479 --> 00:49:05,568
♪ Rise up with a crash ♪
999
00:49:05,652 --> 00:49:10,824
♪♪
1000
00:49:10,907 --> 00:49:17,080
♪ Last night, our kiss ♪
1001
00:49:17,163 --> 00:49:23,753
♪ Kept haunting me,
kept me hoping ♪
1002
00:49:23,837 --> 00:49:29,926
♪ Still with a thousand miles ♪
1003
00:49:30,009 --> 00:49:36,891
♪ My heart was always open ♪
1004
00:49:36,975 --> 00:49:43,356
♪ Wild hunger,
strikes into me ♪
1005
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:49,237
♪ Rise up with a crash ♪
1006
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:55,869
♪ Wild hunger, wild hunger ♪
1007
00:49:55,952 --> 00:49:59,456
♪ No more ♪