1 00:00:10,303 --> 00:00:17,143 ♪♪ 2 00:00:17,226 --> 00:00:19,687 Jennings: Welcome to "World News." 3 00:00:19,771 --> 00:00:24,108 Announcer: The "CBS Evening News with Katie Couric." 4 00:00:24,192 --> 00:00:25,276 Good evening. 5 00:00:25,359 --> 00:00:26,652 Movie fans around the world 6 00:00:26,736 --> 00:00:27,612 are mourning the death of Paul Newman. 7 00:00:27,695 --> 00:00:28,863 Announcer #2: Lester Holt. 8 00:00:28,946 --> 00:00:31,240 Holt: Oscar winner, philanthropist, 9 00:00:31,324 --> 00:00:34,827 racecar driver, family man, Cool Hand. 10 00:00:34,911 --> 00:00:37,121 Auctioneer: Lot number 8, ladies and gentlemen. 11 00:00:37,205 --> 00:00:38,581 Without exaggeration, 12 00:00:38,664 --> 00:00:41,083 the most iconic wristwatch of the 20th century. 13 00:00:41,167 --> 00:00:45,296 Woman: His wife gave her husband a watch 14 00:00:45,379 --> 00:00:47,298 inscribed with a hidden message. 15 00:00:47,381 --> 00:00:48,341 Auctioneer: I think we should start right away. 16 00:00:48,424 --> 00:00:52,553 And I have a commissioned bid at $1 million U.S. 17 00:00:54,764 --> 00:00:56,641 [ Cheers and applause ] 18 00:00:56,724 --> 00:00:58,434 $10 million. 19 00:00:59,769 --> 00:01:02,396 [ Cheers and applause ] 20 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,192 Ethan: So what does CNN think about the cut so far? 21 00:01:06,275 --> 00:01:09,403 Alright. "The great takeaway is that it's clear 22 00:01:09,487 --> 00:01:11,864 we can really build out a satisfying arc 23 00:01:11,948 --> 00:01:12,323 over the six episodes." 24 00:01:12,406 --> 00:01:15,409 Yay! 25 00:01:15,493 --> 00:01:18,329 The watch auction -- they didn't get. 26 00:01:18,412 --> 00:01:20,957 $12.5 million for Liza Gorey. 27 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:22,250 $13 million. 28 00:01:22,333 --> 00:01:24,085 Ethan: Why do you think they don't get it? 29 00:01:24,168 --> 00:01:26,546 Like, see, to me, it's, you know, 30 00:01:26,629 --> 00:01:29,715 the -- the -- the buzzards feasting on the dead. 31 00:01:29,799 --> 00:01:32,426 You know, like... 32 00:01:32,510 --> 00:01:35,930 There's -- Like, I don't think shaming the people 33 00:01:36,013 --> 00:01:37,223 that are bidding on that watch 34 00:01:37,306 --> 00:01:38,516 is what you're trying to accomplish. 35 00:01:38,599 --> 00:01:40,101 Oh, no, no. That's not what I mean. 36 00:01:40,184 --> 00:01:42,562 Yeah, I mean, I want the watch, too. 37 00:01:42,645 --> 00:01:47,149 I mean, I'd love to have it. So what am I talking about? 38 00:01:47,233 --> 00:01:48,317 You're saying, like, 39 00:01:48,401 --> 00:01:50,069 "This is how much people value him." 40 00:01:50,152 --> 00:01:52,864 Auctioneer: $14 million for Natalie. 41 00:01:52,947 --> 00:01:54,574 Ethan: You can't buy Paul Newman's watch. 42 00:01:54,657 --> 00:01:57,910 It's his watch. What makes it beautiful is him. 43 00:01:57,994 --> 00:01:59,871 The watch is nothing. 44 00:01:59,954 --> 00:02:02,164 $15 million. It's a present from his wife. 45 00:02:02,248 --> 00:02:03,958 For the one and only Paul Newman. 46 00:02:04,041 --> 00:02:05,793 I mean, it's -- it's a private thing 47 00:02:05,877 --> 00:02:07,753 that's now made public in death. 48 00:02:07,837 --> 00:02:11,591 Going once, going twice. 49 00:02:11,674 --> 00:02:14,635 But it was something real. 50 00:02:14,719 --> 00:02:17,805 And it just makes me think, but I don't -- 51 00:02:17,889 --> 00:02:19,599 I guess I don't know what I think about it. 52 00:02:19,682 --> 00:02:22,935 So I can't make it clear to the -- 53 00:02:23,019 --> 00:02:24,270 It is history now! 54 00:02:24,353 --> 00:02:26,355 $15,500,000. 55 00:02:26,439 --> 00:02:27,773 Well, come on, Ryan, you're my producer. 56 00:02:27,857 --> 00:02:29,817 What do you think? How should it start? 57 00:02:29,901 --> 00:02:33,821 Like we're on a morning show with pianos and violins, 58 00:02:33,905 --> 00:02:35,990 and everybody's happy? 59 00:02:36,073 --> 00:02:39,368 Interviewer: In a business like this, 60 00:02:39,452 --> 00:02:40,661 it is so unusual 61 00:02:40,745 --> 00:02:43,664 to have relationships endure on any level, 62 00:02:43,748 --> 00:02:45,166 and to have a marriage like yours 63 00:02:45,249 --> 00:02:48,002 after all these years, you've got to admit, 64 00:02:48,085 --> 00:02:49,211 pretty incredible. 65 00:02:49,295 --> 00:02:50,922 Melissa: You know, this narrative, 66 00:02:51,005 --> 00:02:53,633 this really, you know, they were beautiful, 67 00:02:53,716 --> 00:02:55,968 they loved each other, it was simple and that's it. 68 00:02:56,052 --> 00:03:00,139 And, you know, happily ever after. 69 00:03:00,222 --> 00:03:03,726 To a certain extent, I feel guilty dismantling that story 70 00:03:03,809 --> 00:03:06,354 because I feel like everybody needs those kinds of heroes, 71 00:03:06,437 --> 00:03:07,688 but at the same time, 72 00:03:07,772 --> 00:03:11,692 I think they deserve more credit than that. 73 00:03:11,776 --> 00:03:13,653 Shalit: American people think of Joanne Woodward 74 00:03:13,736 --> 00:03:14,570 and Paul Newman, 75 00:03:14,654 --> 00:03:16,989 and they think of this perfect marriage. 76 00:03:18,741 --> 00:03:23,371 How far away from that is reality? 77 00:03:23,454 --> 00:03:26,332 It wasn't easy, and a lot of it was ugly 78 00:03:26,415 --> 00:03:28,334 and a lot of it was a slog. 79 00:03:28,417 --> 00:03:32,463 But I always think that, you know, when my dad was -- 80 00:03:32,546 --> 00:03:34,590 when my dad was dying, 81 00:03:34,674 --> 00:03:36,509 there were a lot of people in that room, 82 00:03:36,592 --> 00:03:39,470 and they were all people who loved him. 83 00:03:39,553 --> 00:03:41,180 But I always felt that my mom 84 00:03:41,263 --> 00:03:43,808 should have been the only one in the room 85 00:03:43,891 --> 00:03:49,105 that maybe in the end, you know, on the Lonely Island. 86 00:03:49,188 --> 00:03:52,692 I think she was really the only one he wanted. 87 00:03:52,775 --> 00:03:56,988 ♪♪ 88 00:03:57,071 --> 00:03:58,239 Ethan: The end of their life together is just beautiful. 89 00:03:58,322 --> 00:04:00,950 I mean, she was running a theater company. 90 00:04:01,033 --> 00:04:04,203 She was producing a lot of new work. 91 00:04:04,286 --> 00:04:07,289 She even got him back on Broadway. 92 00:04:10,126 --> 00:04:13,295 This play is called "Our Town." 93 00:04:13,379 --> 00:04:16,340 It was written by Thornton Wilder 94 00:04:16,424 --> 00:04:20,469 and is being produced here by the Westport Country Playhouse. 95 00:04:20,553 --> 00:04:22,930 Name of the town -- Grover's Corner. 96 00:04:23,014 --> 00:04:24,223 Keefe: I picked up the phone in the bedroom and she said, 97 00:04:24,306 --> 00:04:25,891 "Hey, Annie, it's Joanne." 98 00:04:25,975 --> 00:04:28,644 And I said, "Yep. Hi, how's it going?" 99 00:04:28,728 --> 00:04:29,979 She said, "Well, I'll tell you. 100 00:04:30,062 --> 00:04:32,273 Paul just walked in and he said, 101 00:04:32,356 --> 00:04:36,861 'What do you think if I played the stage manager?'" 102 00:04:36,944 --> 00:04:41,907 The day is May 7, 1901, just about dawn. 103 00:04:41,991 --> 00:04:42,616 [ Rooster crows ] 104 00:04:42,700 --> 00:04:44,577 Lissy: He was -- he was afraid -- 105 00:04:44,660 --> 00:04:48,247 He was afraid he wasn't gonna be able to remember 106 00:04:48,330 --> 00:04:50,249 his lines in a play anymore. 107 00:04:50,332 --> 00:04:50,791 And it had been a long time. 108 00:04:50,875 --> 00:04:53,961 Yes. She was Julia. 109 00:04:54,045 --> 00:04:57,339 She was Julia Percy before she married Doc Gibbs 110 00:04:57,423 --> 00:04:58,257 in the Congregational Church. 111 00:04:58,341 --> 00:05:01,927 In our town, we like to know the facts. 112 00:05:02,011 --> 00:05:04,263 Woodman: It was the first time he had been on stage 113 00:05:04,346 --> 00:05:09,518 since we did a play called "Baby Want a Kiss" 114 00:05:09,602 --> 00:05:11,020 in 1965, '64. 115 00:05:11,103 --> 00:05:15,024 Interviewer #2: Which ran how long? 116 00:05:15,107 --> 00:05:16,859 Well, I don't know. It was a limited run, 117 00:05:16,942 --> 00:05:19,945 but I mean, I think it may have been more limited. 118 00:05:20,029 --> 00:05:21,280 Clooney: "My problem is that I just 119 00:05:21,363 --> 00:05:24,408 remember an accumulation of events." 120 00:05:24,492 --> 00:05:26,160 Man: Surrounding me here are several of the members 121 00:05:26,243 --> 00:05:27,745 of the Actors Studio Theater. 122 00:05:27,828 --> 00:05:29,789 "I don't really have a sense of a beginning." 123 00:05:29,872 --> 00:05:33,834 Miss Geraldine Page, Mr. Rip Torn... 124 00:05:33,918 --> 00:05:35,711 Another thing, I-I think it gives me an opportunity 125 00:05:35,795 --> 00:05:36,796 to come back to this. 126 00:05:36,879 --> 00:05:37,713 Clooney: "There are people 127 00:05:37,797 --> 00:05:39,715 who have a sense of living a whole life, 128 00:05:39,799 --> 00:05:42,343 but I just have a sense of a series of events 129 00:05:42,426 --> 00:05:44,595 attached together in random ways. 130 00:05:44,678 --> 00:05:45,304 Stick the middle in the beginning 131 00:05:45,387 --> 00:05:47,681 or the beginning at the middle, 132 00:05:47,765 --> 00:05:51,894 really doesn't seem to make either sense or difference." 133 00:05:51,977 --> 00:05:54,647 Emily: Do any human beings ever realize life 134 00:05:54,730 --> 00:05:58,776 while they live it every...every minute? 135 00:05:58,859 --> 00:06:01,821 No. 136 00:06:01,904 --> 00:06:04,573 Saints and poets maybe... 137 00:06:04,657 --> 00:06:05,658 They do some. 138 00:06:05,741 --> 00:06:08,494 Letterman: What about it drew you to the production? 139 00:06:08,577 --> 00:06:10,996 Why did you want to do it after 35 years? 140 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,999 Well, my wife is the artistic director. 141 00:06:14,083 --> 00:06:16,001 And, uh... 142 00:06:16,085 --> 00:06:18,003 [ Laughter ] 143 00:06:18,087 --> 00:06:20,965 ...and I have no idea what she puts in my food. 144 00:06:21,048 --> 00:06:22,341 [ Laughter ] 145 00:06:22,424 --> 00:06:24,343 You can't be too careful. 146 00:06:24,426 --> 00:06:26,512 Woman #2: The Westport production moved to Broadway, 147 00:06:26,595 --> 00:06:28,764 where Newman was nominated for a Tony. 148 00:06:28,848 --> 00:06:31,642 But it wasn't the first time he performed in the play. 149 00:06:31,725 --> 00:06:33,102 He starred with Frank Sinatra 150 00:06:33,185 --> 00:06:35,688 in a 1955 musical adaptation for television. 151 00:06:35,771 --> 00:06:40,860 ♪♪ 152 00:06:40,943 --> 00:06:45,447 I've married 200 couples in my day. 153 00:06:45,531 --> 00:06:47,324 Do I believe in it? 154 00:06:47,408 --> 00:06:48,701 I don't know. 155 00:06:48,784 --> 00:06:51,245 I suppose I do. 156 00:06:51,328 --> 00:06:52,705 M married M. 157 00:06:52,788 --> 00:06:54,498 Millions of them. 158 00:06:54,582 --> 00:06:56,041 The cottage, the go-cart, 159 00:06:56,125 --> 00:06:58,627 Sunday-afternoon drives in the Ford, 160 00:06:58,711 --> 00:07:01,422 the first rheumatism, grandchildren, 161 00:07:01,505 --> 00:07:04,258 the second rheumatism, the death-bed, 162 00:07:04,341 --> 00:07:06,886 the reading of the will. 163 00:07:06,969 --> 00:07:11,432 Once in a thousand times... 164 00:07:11,515 --> 00:07:12,725 it's interesting. 165 00:07:12,808 --> 00:07:19,565 ♪♪ 166 00:07:19,648 --> 00:07:25,446 ♪♪ 167 00:07:25,529 --> 00:07:31,410 ♪♪ 168 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,082 Here. 169 00:07:37,166 --> 00:07:38,250 There is friendship, there's conjugality, 170 00:07:38,334 --> 00:07:41,253 and there is amativeness right here. 171 00:07:41,337 --> 00:07:42,755 It's right -- right there. 172 00:07:42,838 --> 00:07:43,339 And they say it's all in your head anyway. 173 00:07:43,422 --> 00:07:46,592 Let me feel that again. 174 00:07:50,554 --> 00:07:52,848 Jesus, you've got to be a nymphomaniac 175 00:07:52,932 --> 00:07:54,433 to have a bump like that. 176 00:07:54,516 --> 00:07:55,935 Charles: "When I met Paul and Joanne, 177 00:07:56,018 --> 00:07:58,062 it was at the Actors Studio. 178 00:07:58,145 --> 00:08:01,815 They were high-living, hard-living, young warriors. 179 00:08:01,899 --> 00:08:05,152 They were intoxicated with this new liberty, 180 00:08:05,236 --> 00:08:08,113 this new freedom of emotion 181 00:08:08,197 --> 00:08:10,449 that they were not only being allowed to use, 182 00:08:10,532 --> 00:08:15,246 but encouraged to use to understand the kind of boldness 183 00:08:15,329 --> 00:08:18,582 that they brought to these roles that electrified American acting 184 00:08:18,666 --> 00:08:20,209 and eventually changed the technique 185 00:08:20,292 --> 00:08:23,629 of acting around the world. 186 00:08:23,712 --> 00:08:25,464 That's why we worked there. 187 00:08:25,547 --> 00:08:29,009 We were down there day after day to talk and teach and act 188 00:08:29,093 --> 00:08:32,680 and make fools of ourselves in an effort to keep alive 189 00:08:32,763 --> 00:08:35,557 this aspect that..." 190 00:08:35,641 --> 00:08:38,102 I think we'd better go back. 191 00:08:38,185 --> 00:08:40,145 "...that was the valves of our heart." 192 00:08:40,229 --> 00:08:41,855 Yes, I do mean that. 193 00:08:41,939 --> 00:08:43,941 I knew you were going to kiss me today, 194 00:08:44,024 --> 00:08:45,526 but I didn't know I was gonna kiss you back. 195 00:08:45,609 --> 00:08:46,944 And it isn't going to happen again. 196 00:08:47,027 --> 00:08:49,113 So don't try to get me off alone somewhere. 197 00:08:49,196 --> 00:08:50,364 I think you'd like that. 198 00:08:50,447 --> 00:08:52,116 "And that these good people, 199 00:08:52,199 --> 00:08:53,909 you know, Newman and Woodward, 200 00:08:53,993 --> 00:08:55,661 have survived and gone on to do good work 201 00:08:55,744 --> 00:09:00,040 despite the pressures of the world and life. 202 00:09:00,124 --> 00:09:02,876 You know, the miracle is that anybody survives." 203 00:09:05,170 --> 00:09:06,839 Are you going to row me back to shore 204 00:09:06,922 --> 00:09:08,966 or am I going to have to swim back? 205 00:09:09,049 --> 00:09:11,010 Swim. 206 00:09:11,093 --> 00:09:16,265 ♪♪ 207 00:09:16,348 --> 00:09:19,101 We -- We were in a meeting once in the barn 208 00:09:19,184 --> 00:09:21,186 and Joanne excused herself for a couple of minutes 209 00:09:21,270 --> 00:09:23,314 and -- and I didn't hear the door open, 210 00:09:23,397 --> 00:09:25,941 but I turned around and Paul had come in 211 00:09:26,025 --> 00:09:30,070 and the two of them were just standing there holding hands. 212 00:09:30,154 --> 00:09:34,533 And I froze that image in my mind and thought, "God, 213 00:09:34,616 --> 00:09:38,245 if you could ever love somebody for that long that much, 214 00:09:38,329 --> 00:09:41,206 what must it be like?" 215 00:09:41,290 --> 00:09:43,751 It's... 216 00:09:43,834 --> 00:09:44,960 Sorry. It's just... 217 00:09:45,044 --> 00:09:46,962 Donahue: "The truth is that I felt 218 00:09:47,046 --> 00:09:49,548 an enormous rivalry with Paul. 219 00:09:49,631 --> 00:09:53,385 Although I wouldn't admit it then, not even to myself. 220 00:09:53,469 --> 00:09:54,428 I was always uncomfortable 221 00:09:54,511 --> 00:09:57,056 that Paul was so much bigger than I was." 222 00:09:57,139 --> 00:09:59,350 It's legitimate. 223 00:09:59,433 --> 00:10:01,268 I think that there was a time when I wished 224 00:10:01,352 --> 00:10:03,604 that I didn't stay home and take care of babies, 225 00:10:03,687 --> 00:10:05,439 and I wanted to be a big movie star 226 00:10:05,522 --> 00:10:06,857 and all of that. 227 00:10:06,940 --> 00:10:07,149 But, you know, you change. 228 00:10:07,232 --> 00:10:09,860 Janey... 229 00:10:11,653 --> 00:10:14,656 ...before, you know, you said I always used to ask you 230 00:10:14,740 --> 00:10:16,116 how your day of school went. 231 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:17,576 You did. 232 00:10:17,659 --> 00:10:20,245 Do you know something? 233 00:10:20,329 --> 00:10:24,124 You've never asked me how my day went. 234 00:10:24,208 --> 00:10:26,210 Not once. 235 00:10:26,293 --> 00:10:29,213 Woman #3: Joanne, is there any one character 236 00:10:29,296 --> 00:10:33,759 that you feel that you can really relate to personally? 237 00:10:33,842 --> 00:10:35,594 All of them. 238 00:10:35,677 --> 00:10:37,429 I have to, all of them, because they're all parts of me. 239 00:10:37,513 --> 00:10:40,432 I mean, that's the all -- that's the -- 240 00:10:40,516 --> 00:10:41,558 the joy and the trauma about being an actor 241 00:10:41,642 --> 00:10:45,562 is that's all you've got is you, you know. 242 00:10:45,646 --> 00:10:48,190 A pianist has a piano and a drummer has the drums 243 00:10:48,273 --> 00:10:50,651 and even the ballet dancer has their toe shoes. 244 00:10:50,734 --> 00:10:53,237 But we have what we are. 245 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,615 And I can leap happily into my coffin and call it a day. 246 00:10:56,698 --> 00:10:58,450 Lie down, close my eyes, shut my mouth 247 00:10:58,534 --> 00:11:01,078 and disappear into eternity. 248 00:11:01,161 --> 00:11:02,162 Easy as that? 249 00:11:02,246 --> 00:11:05,958 Like falling off a log. 250 00:11:06,041 --> 00:11:09,044 Ethan: What I admire in Joanne is just the actor. 251 00:11:09,128 --> 00:11:11,839 When you're not getting all these amazing offers, 252 00:11:11,922 --> 00:11:14,466 how do you build a career through your own work 253 00:11:14,550 --> 00:11:16,260 and through your own energy 254 00:11:16,343 --> 00:11:18,887 and her passion for these television movies 255 00:11:18,971 --> 00:11:20,639 and the way that she would throw herself. 256 00:11:20,722 --> 00:11:24,977 [ Yelling indistinctly ] 257 00:11:25,060 --> 00:11:26,478 And she did a lot of them. 258 00:11:26,562 --> 00:11:28,480 And they're always about serious subject matters, 259 00:11:28,564 --> 00:11:32,109 whether it's women's rights, children and drugs, 260 00:11:32,192 --> 00:11:34,361 race relations. 261 00:11:34,445 --> 00:11:36,113 Oh, that's a shame. 262 00:11:36,196 --> 00:11:38,907 Oh, that's -- Daniel. Daniel. 263 00:11:38,991 --> 00:11:40,492 Woman #4: And she would teach, you know, 264 00:11:40,576 --> 00:11:44,288 she taught an acting class out of their apartment. 265 00:11:44,371 --> 00:11:45,873 And a lot of those actors worked with her. 266 00:11:45,956 --> 00:11:49,501 Dylan McDermott worked with her, Allison Janney. 267 00:11:49,585 --> 00:11:50,919 Janney: Joanne Woodward, I want to thank you 268 00:11:51,003 --> 00:11:53,672 for your encouragement that gave me the confidence 269 00:11:53,755 --> 00:11:56,675 to think I could pursue a career in acting. 270 00:11:56,758 --> 00:11:58,552 Woman #4: She just adored them. She just -- They were her -- 271 00:11:58,635 --> 00:12:01,430 They were like, you know, her children. 272 00:12:03,765 --> 00:12:06,810 Linney: I was right out of school when I worked with her. 273 00:12:06,894 --> 00:12:07,478 I played some drug addict. 274 00:12:07,561 --> 00:12:11,023 It was a very overly dramatic, 275 00:12:11,106 --> 00:12:12,107 Hallmark Hall of Fame sort of thing. 276 00:12:12,191 --> 00:12:14,526 But it was my first big job, really, in many ways. 277 00:12:14,610 --> 00:12:17,863 Did you or didn't you? No, I didn't! 278 00:12:17,946 --> 00:12:20,115 Charlie got me high -- 279 00:12:20,199 --> 00:12:22,451 And Joanne, who very carefully curated 280 00:12:22,534 --> 00:12:26,038 a group of young artists around her. 281 00:12:26,121 --> 00:12:28,790 She played a politician and in the office -- 282 00:12:28,874 --> 00:12:30,542 Their scenes in the office -- 283 00:12:30,626 --> 00:12:32,336 we're all of her young protégés. 284 00:12:32,419 --> 00:12:35,380 Allison Janney, Mark Wade. 285 00:12:35,464 --> 00:12:39,343 You know, I was the new kid on the block. 286 00:12:41,512 --> 00:12:42,221 Has it caught any fish? 287 00:12:42,304 --> 00:12:44,223 Not for 10 years. 288 00:12:44,306 --> 00:12:46,808 [ Chuckles ] Well... 289 00:12:46,892 --> 00:12:48,936 We won't starve. 290 00:12:49,019 --> 00:12:51,939 Butter and sugar from Fesco's. 291 00:12:52,022 --> 00:12:52,564 A national treasure. 292 00:12:52,648 --> 00:12:55,234 And I'm so -- I'm so lucky 293 00:12:55,317 --> 00:12:56,568 that I worked with her so early 294 00:12:56,652 --> 00:13:00,155 because she instilled in me things 295 00:13:00,239 --> 00:13:02,032 that I'm realizing even now. 296 00:13:02,115 --> 00:13:03,283 Is that what I used to say? 297 00:13:03,367 --> 00:13:05,994 All the time. 298 00:13:06,078 --> 00:13:07,037 Well, that was fairly pretentious of me. 299 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,499 And I can remember having a conversation with her 300 00:13:10,582 --> 00:13:14,670 that you -- you have to love the arts 301 00:13:14,753 --> 00:13:16,296 more than any of it. 302 00:13:16,380 --> 00:13:18,590 You have to love the people. You have to love the process. 303 00:13:18,674 --> 00:13:21,260 You have to love the ups and the downs 304 00:13:21,343 --> 00:13:24,638 so that when it is really hard, you still feel nourished. 305 00:13:24,721 --> 00:13:28,642 And that comes from your investment outside of yourself 306 00:13:28,725 --> 00:13:31,436 into something bigger than you, 307 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,189 into something that has a long history. 308 00:13:34,273 --> 00:13:36,525 You are a small part of the whole machine 309 00:13:36,608 --> 00:13:41,488 and that that perspective is the starting point. 310 00:13:41,572 --> 00:13:46,785 ♪♪ 311 00:13:46,868 --> 00:13:51,873 ♪♪ 312 00:13:51,957 --> 00:13:53,542 Ethan: You know, I did my first -- 313 00:13:53,625 --> 00:13:54,334 I did my Broadway debut with Laura. 314 00:13:54,418 --> 00:13:57,838 "The Seagull" in 1991. 315 00:13:57,921 --> 00:13:59,298 Wade: I saw it. 316 00:13:59,381 --> 00:14:01,008 Oh, my God. No. 317 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,345 Really? 318 00:14:05,429 --> 00:14:06,638 Yes. 319 00:14:06,722 --> 00:14:09,808 Wow. That's amazing. 320 00:14:11,101 --> 00:14:13,937 Linney: It was really troubled, and I knew it was troubled 321 00:14:14,021 --> 00:14:18,025 and I knew I was in trouble, and I called Joanne. 322 00:14:18,108 --> 00:14:22,070 And I was like, "Joanne, I'm in this production. 323 00:14:22,154 --> 00:14:24,823 I really need help." 324 00:14:24,906 --> 00:14:29,828 So I was in my dressing room and someone knocked on the door 325 00:14:29,911 --> 00:14:31,705 and, like, a face leaned in and said, 326 00:14:31,788 --> 00:14:35,834 "Miss Woodward will meet you in her car in 15 minutes." 327 00:14:38,086 --> 00:14:40,422 So I very quickly get dressed. I got in her car. 328 00:14:40,505 --> 00:14:42,382 She's like, "Dearheart, hello, come in." 329 00:14:42,466 --> 00:14:44,718 I went in the car. 330 00:14:44,801 --> 00:14:48,180 She went, "Well... 331 00:14:48,263 --> 00:14:49,890 there's nothing you can do." 332 00:14:49,973 --> 00:14:52,351 [ Chuckles ] 333 00:14:52,434 --> 00:14:53,727 And I... 334 00:14:53,810 --> 00:14:58,190 I-I looked at her, I was like, "What?" 335 00:14:58,273 --> 00:15:01,693 She's like, "Dearheart, there's nothing you can do." 336 00:15:01,777 --> 00:15:05,322 She's like, "You just have to learn to get through it." 337 00:15:05,405 --> 00:15:08,659 And that was very valuable. 338 00:15:08,742 --> 00:15:10,994 Woodward: Sandy always used to say, 339 00:15:11,078 --> 00:15:12,371 "You cannot -- you can't be an actor 340 00:15:12,454 --> 00:15:13,872 unless you are willing 341 00:15:13,955 --> 00:15:18,335 to make a fool of yourself and fail," you know. 342 00:15:18,418 --> 00:15:20,712 And that's true, of course, of anything. 343 00:15:20,796 --> 00:15:24,424 Joanne always found ways to do things that excited her 344 00:15:24,508 --> 00:15:27,719 because what excited her 345 00:15:27,803 --> 00:15:31,014 wasn't where it was or who it was with even. 346 00:15:31,098 --> 00:15:35,477 It was the work itself. You know, it's the story. 347 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,521 It was the craft, it was the text. 348 00:15:37,604 --> 00:15:39,439 It was -- Whether it was on television 349 00:15:39,523 --> 00:15:40,732 or, you know, certainly on stage, 350 00:15:40,816 --> 00:15:44,903 because it is so purely about the craft when you're on stage. 351 00:15:44,986 --> 00:15:48,740 Joanne Woodward keeps busy on many fronts. 352 00:15:48,824 --> 00:15:49,533 She is an activist, a supporter of dance, 353 00:15:49,616 --> 00:15:50,784 a director and a wife, 354 00:15:50,867 --> 00:15:53,912 and she is, above all, an actress. 355 00:15:53,995 --> 00:15:55,539 And she is currently starring 356 00:15:55,622 --> 00:15:57,457 at Toronto's Royal Alexandra Theatre 357 00:15:57,541 --> 00:16:02,254 in Tennessee Williams' classic "Sweet Bird of Youth." 358 00:16:02,337 --> 00:16:03,588 In "Sweet Bird of Youth," 359 00:16:03,672 --> 00:16:05,716 Joanne Woodward plays Princess... 360 00:16:05,799 --> 00:16:08,385 Wade: I was walking her home from rehearsal one night 361 00:16:08,468 --> 00:16:09,177 and I was like, "How do you do that?" 362 00:16:09,261 --> 00:16:12,514 And she said, "What do you mean?" 363 00:16:12,597 --> 00:16:16,601 I was like, "Every time, it was brilliant, connected, 364 00:16:16,685 --> 00:16:24,609 full, full emotionally, and so effortless." 365 00:16:24,693 --> 00:16:26,486 And she looked at me and she said, 366 00:16:26,570 --> 00:16:28,488 "It's just because I know I can." 367 00:16:28,572 --> 00:16:32,659 That's like saying, "I'm the shit." 368 00:16:34,911 --> 00:16:37,581 Linney: "I've been working on a piece 369 00:16:37,664 --> 00:16:40,250 that I've wanted to do for a long time. 370 00:16:40,333 --> 00:16:41,626 My mother is now in a nursing home 371 00:16:41,710 --> 00:16:44,463 and she has Alzheimer's disease. 372 00:16:44,546 --> 00:16:46,298 I keep trying to figure out some way 373 00:16:46,381 --> 00:16:48,383 to create this into a film piece. 374 00:16:48,467 --> 00:16:50,635 I haven't gotten it yet, but someday. 375 00:16:50,719 --> 00:16:53,638 Anyway that's what I'm working on now." 376 00:16:53,722 --> 00:16:56,349 -Where's your class? -Um, lecture hall one. 377 00:16:56,433 --> 00:16:59,561 This way. It's this way. 378 00:17:02,189 --> 00:17:03,982 [ Laughs ] Well... 379 00:17:05,108 --> 00:17:07,694 Interviewer #3: Joanne, I understand that this is 380 00:17:07,778 --> 00:17:09,613 a particularly painful role for you to play, 381 00:17:09,696 --> 00:17:12,532 because I know that your mother has Alzheimer's disease. 382 00:17:12,616 --> 00:17:14,534 Was this a difficult thing for you to do? 383 00:17:14,618 --> 00:17:18,538 Yes. Yes, it was, because it did... 384 00:17:18,622 --> 00:17:23,251 force me to examine aspects of my own being 385 00:17:23,335 --> 00:17:26,213 that I don't like to face. 386 00:17:26,296 --> 00:17:29,466 I guess because, you know, there is some reason 387 00:17:29,549 --> 00:17:32,969 to believe that Alzheimer's is hereditary. 388 00:17:33,053 --> 00:17:34,638 And, of course, those of us 389 00:17:34,721 --> 00:17:36,848 who are children of Alzheimer's victims, 390 00:17:36,932 --> 00:17:40,644 I suppose, have that haunting us all the time. 391 00:17:40,727 --> 00:17:42,229 Ethan: You know, her mother had Alzheimer's, 392 00:17:42,312 --> 00:17:44,856 and so she made a TV movie about Alzheimer's 393 00:17:44,940 --> 00:17:46,358 and played her. 394 00:17:46,441 --> 00:17:48,819 It's a very powerful movie. 395 00:17:48,902 --> 00:17:51,863 ♪♪ 396 00:17:51,947 --> 00:17:55,534 Doctor: Would you like a glass of water? 397 00:17:55,617 --> 00:17:58,203 No, thank you. 398 00:17:58,286 --> 00:18:01,581 Woodward: It's always therapy to do something about something 399 00:18:01,665 --> 00:18:04,709 that you can't change in any other way. 400 00:18:04,793 --> 00:18:07,379 There's surely no higher praise for what television can offer 401 00:18:07,462 --> 00:18:08,713 than just to read the names 402 00:18:08,797 --> 00:18:10,131 of the artists who were nominated... 403 00:18:10,215 --> 00:18:10,924 Nominees for Outstanding Actress... 404 00:18:11,007 --> 00:18:12,884 Nominees for Outstanding Lead Actress 405 00:18:12,968 --> 00:18:15,053 in a Miniseries or a Special are... 406 00:18:15,136 --> 00:18:17,639 Alda: Joanne Woodward, "See How She Runs." 407 00:18:17,722 --> 00:18:20,308 Woman #5: Joanne Woodward for "Crisis at Central High." 408 00:18:20,392 --> 00:18:21,935 Woman #6: Joanne Woodward for "Blind Spot." 409 00:18:22,018 --> 00:18:23,103 Man #2: Joanne Woodward for "Do You Remember Love." 410 00:18:23,186 --> 00:18:26,898 Joanne Woodward, "Sybil." And the winner is... 411 00:18:26,982 --> 00:18:31,236 Joanne Woodward, "Do You Remember Love." 412 00:18:31,319 --> 00:18:33,446 Joanne Woodward, "See How She Runs." 413 00:18:33,530 --> 00:18:37,742 Woman #7: Joanne Woodward has had nine Emmy nominations. 414 00:18:37,826 --> 00:18:40,620 Woodward: This is such a nice way to come back to television. 415 00:18:40,704 --> 00:18:41,997 I started out here about 25 years ago. 416 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,749 Linney: "I seem to be the only person I know 417 00:18:44,833 --> 00:18:48,920 who enjoys getting older." 418 00:18:52,007 --> 00:18:53,216 Megan: Michael. 419 00:18:56,845 --> 00:18:59,890 You don't want to come in here. 420 00:19:01,349 --> 00:19:02,809 Michael, if I could just talk to you. 421 00:19:02,893 --> 00:19:04,477 Shut up! 422 00:19:04,561 --> 00:19:05,478 I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear any of it. 423 00:19:05,562 --> 00:19:07,772 [ Grunts ] 424 00:19:07,856 --> 00:19:08,815 What the hell are you doing here?! 425 00:19:08,899 --> 00:19:11,443 Details? Is that what you want? 426 00:19:11,526 --> 00:19:13,695 Clooney: "I suspect right around the time of 'Absence of Malice,' 427 00:19:13,778 --> 00:19:16,531 I was starting to be difficult to be around. 428 00:19:16,615 --> 00:19:18,033 I was an in-between person, 429 00:19:18,116 --> 00:19:21,328 not comfortable pretending to be the college yokel anymore 430 00:19:21,411 --> 00:19:23,622 and I hadn't found any comfort yet 431 00:19:23,705 --> 00:19:25,123 being inside my own skin. 432 00:19:25,206 --> 00:19:26,249 ...for everybody to look at her. 433 00:19:26,333 --> 00:19:27,626 She must have felt like... 434 00:19:27,709 --> 00:19:29,586 [ Screams ] ...just raped! 435 00:19:29,669 --> 00:19:31,087 [ Screaming ] 436 00:19:31,171 --> 00:19:33,298 Field: He knew he was in transition. 437 00:19:33,381 --> 00:19:38,637 For actors, it's such a difficult place, you know? 438 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,640 What you do in that transition is where you're going to -- 439 00:19:41,723 --> 00:19:45,602 your career's gonna go... 440 00:19:45,685 --> 00:19:47,187 or not go. 441 00:19:47,270 --> 00:19:50,273 Charles: "I don't know what happened to Paul 442 00:19:50,357 --> 00:19:51,524 in the middle years. 443 00:19:51,608 --> 00:19:53,944 I mean, I don't mean to be judgmental, 444 00:19:54,027 --> 00:19:55,195 but I think for a time, 445 00:19:55,278 --> 00:19:59,407 he lost that youthful edge of boldness 446 00:19:59,491 --> 00:20:01,868 and 'I don't care.' 447 00:20:01,952 --> 00:20:04,788 The larger the budget, the more prominent one becomes, 448 00:20:04,871 --> 00:20:07,540 the less able you are to be a rascal. 449 00:20:07,624 --> 00:20:11,169 That little lawbreaker, that truant that you once were, 450 00:20:11,252 --> 00:20:14,005 you're becoming part of the establishment 451 00:20:14,089 --> 00:20:15,674 whether you want to or not. 452 00:20:15,757 --> 00:20:19,219 And as an actor, to begin to close down any of that ganglia, 453 00:20:19,302 --> 00:20:23,640 those wonderful sensory forces that are out there 454 00:20:23,723 --> 00:20:26,184 to accommodate some agreed-upon image 455 00:20:26,267 --> 00:20:28,895 of how you should look, 456 00:20:28,979 --> 00:20:33,024 I mean, it's the worst thing that can happen to anyone. 457 00:20:33,108 --> 00:20:34,693 And it's what I sense was there 458 00:20:34,776 --> 00:20:36,069 in some of those middle pictures." 459 00:20:36,152 --> 00:20:37,904 It's not over yet. 460 00:20:37,988 --> 00:20:39,698 Scorsese: It was something Arthur Penn told me. 461 00:20:39,781 --> 00:20:40,699 He says, "Don't lose your amateur status. 462 00:20:40,782 --> 00:20:44,786 You have a major machine behind you and over you 463 00:20:44,869 --> 00:20:46,830 and it restricts your freedom." He's right. 464 00:20:46,913 --> 00:20:49,207 Announcer #3: She writes the story that sets him up. 465 00:20:49,290 --> 00:20:52,836 He writes the book on getting even. 466 00:20:52,919 --> 00:20:55,630 McCarthy: "I, um, I remember when we were talking 467 00:20:55,714 --> 00:20:57,632 before we began shooting, and I told him that, 468 00:20:57,716 --> 00:21:00,051 what I thought, that I, you know, that, 469 00:21:00,135 --> 00:21:01,511 that I thought he had walked 470 00:21:01,594 --> 00:21:02,470 through the 'Absence of Malice.' 471 00:21:02,554 --> 00:21:06,933 And he looked at me like I had slapped him. 472 00:21:07,017 --> 00:21:09,728 And I thought, 'Ooh, Paul didn't really think 473 00:21:09,811 --> 00:21:11,813 he was working in that, did he?'" 474 00:21:11,896 --> 00:21:12,731 Paul: He's not the cool, collected type. 475 00:21:12,814 --> 00:21:16,067 He's frightened. He's, uh, he's an alcoholic. 476 00:21:16,151 --> 00:21:17,861 McCarthy: "By the end of the second week, 477 00:21:17,944 --> 00:21:19,362 I like to have a run-through, 478 00:21:19,446 --> 00:21:22,824 and I also like the book to be out of your hands by then. 479 00:21:22,907 --> 00:21:24,743 But he -- he didn't have the book out of his hands." 480 00:21:24,826 --> 00:21:27,454 There's -- there's a story about Sidney Lumet 481 00:21:27,537 --> 00:21:29,497 saying to Paul Newman at one of the rehearsals, 482 00:21:29,581 --> 00:21:30,915 like, "Everybody else, go home." 483 00:21:30,999 --> 00:21:33,418 And he said -- Did you hear this story? 484 00:21:33,501 --> 00:21:35,962 It's -- He basically said to Paul, 485 00:21:36,046 --> 00:21:36,838 "Here's what's --" 486 00:21:36,921 --> 00:21:38,506 McCarthy: "It was a regular performance. 487 00:21:38,590 --> 00:21:40,467 Very good, but no real life in it. 488 00:21:40,550 --> 00:21:41,551 And I let everyone go. And I asked Paul to stay. 489 00:21:41,634 --> 00:21:44,846 And I didn't say it flat out because you don't want 490 00:21:44,929 --> 00:21:46,556 to discourage an actor at that point. 491 00:21:46,639 --> 00:21:48,516 But in essence, what I said was, 492 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,101 'What's the matter? It's not working.' 493 00:21:50,185 --> 00:21:55,273 And he said, 'Oh, it's the lines, Sydney. 494 00:21:55,356 --> 00:21:57,317 I'm having such a goddamn problem with the fucking lines.' 495 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:02,030 And I said, 'No, Paul, it's not the lines.' 496 00:22:02,113 --> 00:22:04,074 And he blinked sort of very rapidly and said, 497 00:22:04,157 --> 00:22:06,576 'What do you think the problem is?' 498 00:22:06,659 --> 00:22:09,329 And I said, 'Well, I think you have to make a decision.' 499 00:22:09,412 --> 00:22:13,917 And he said, 'Well, what do you mean decision?'" 500 00:22:15,877 --> 00:22:16,795 Then I said, 'You have to decide 501 00:22:16,878 --> 00:22:19,589 how much of you you're going to let us see, 502 00:22:19,672 --> 00:22:23,218 because it is you that is missing.'" 503 00:22:25,178 --> 00:22:27,013 "He didn't say anything. 504 00:22:27,097 --> 00:22:28,765 And we broke for the weekend and we came back in on Monday 505 00:22:28,848 --> 00:22:30,975 and it was like a different actor." 506 00:22:31,059 --> 00:22:40,318 ♪♪ 507 00:22:40,401 --> 00:22:41,277 "He knows what good acting is about 508 00:22:41,361 --> 00:22:44,322 and good acting is about self-revelation. 509 00:22:44,405 --> 00:22:47,492 All good work is -- It's tough. 510 00:22:47,575 --> 00:22:49,285 It's hard." 511 00:22:49,369 --> 00:22:55,500 ♪♪ 512 00:22:55,583 --> 00:23:00,296 Paul: I realized that I still had a long way to go, 513 00:23:00,380 --> 00:23:06,886 that I had just begun to tap the complexity of that guy, 514 00:23:06,970 --> 00:23:10,765 the emotional bankruptcy that he was facing. 515 00:23:10,849 --> 00:23:12,642 Frankie. 516 00:23:12,725 --> 00:23:15,103 Come on, get up. 517 00:23:15,186 --> 00:23:17,272 Get up, Frank. 518 00:23:17,355 --> 00:23:20,233 McCarthy: "The things I didn't have to say. 519 00:23:20,316 --> 00:23:24,195 Binaca spraying, pan up with the Binaca. 520 00:23:24,279 --> 00:23:27,115 He sprays his mouth and walks into the funeral. 521 00:23:27,198 --> 00:23:30,368 Binaca -- Paul's, the eye drops -- Paul's. 522 00:23:30,451 --> 00:23:31,536 The kind of selflessness of an actor 523 00:23:31,619 --> 00:23:35,331 who's not afraid to expose the unpleasant side. 524 00:23:35,415 --> 00:23:39,586 What's your image of someone who needs Binaca? 525 00:23:47,927 --> 00:23:53,349 ♪♪ 526 00:23:53,433 --> 00:23:57,604 ♪♪ 527 00:23:57,687 --> 00:24:02,233 Ethan: You know, everything he was hiding from the world... 528 00:24:02,317 --> 00:24:03,651 Rockwell: Wow. 529 00:24:03,735 --> 00:24:07,071 ...he decided to put on screen, right? 530 00:24:07,155 --> 00:24:07,906 Yeah. Wow. 531 00:24:07,989 --> 00:24:09,574 I didn't know that it was that far. 532 00:24:09,657 --> 00:24:10,909 I knew he was a boozer, but... 533 00:24:10,992 --> 00:24:13,077 Wow. 534 00:24:13,161 --> 00:24:16,372 McCarthy: "To stay sober, he has to keep moving. 535 00:24:16,456 --> 00:24:19,250 That stillness means he'll lift a glass. 536 00:24:19,334 --> 00:24:24,088 Stillness belongs to the bar, telling funny stories. 537 00:24:24,172 --> 00:24:25,506 And that -- since everything is -- 538 00:24:25,590 --> 00:24:27,258 If he's gonna do anything at all, 539 00:24:27,342 --> 00:24:30,345 is 'I'm not going to drink, I'm not going to drink. 540 00:24:30,428 --> 00:24:32,263 I'm not going to drink.' 541 00:24:32,347 --> 00:24:35,141 It's over, period. 542 00:24:35,225 --> 00:24:36,100 There'll be other cases. 543 00:24:36,184 --> 00:24:40,271 There are no other cases. This is the case. 544 00:24:40,355 --> 00:24:42,440 There are no other cases. 545 00:24:42,523 --> 00:24:45,443 This is the case. 546 00:24:45,526 --> 00:24:47,779 There are no other cases. 547 00:24:47,862 --> 00:24:49,280 This is the case. 548 00:24:50,073 --> 00:24:52,784 Ashmanskas: He figured it out. 549 00:24:52,867 --> 00:24:56,537 "The Verdict" from, you know, as you know, especially, 550 00:24:56,621 --> 00:24:57,956 it's like he was just -- 551 00:24:58,039 --> 00:25:01,125 It was just, "Ka, ka, ka, ka, ka," the whole movie. 552 00:25:01,209 --> 00:25:03,211 The whole movie. 553 00:25:17,433 --> 00:25:19,060 Clooney: "We all have our demons one way or the other. 554 00:25:19,143 --> 00:25:22,522 And I think we all have great respect for those people 555 00:25:22,605 --> 00:25:25,483 who manage to do something about them." 556 00:25:27,402 --> 00:25:28,778 'The Verdict.' 557 00:25:28,861 --> 00:25:31,155 I think that there was a lot of emotional wreckage 558 00:25:31,239 --> 00:25:34,492 that he had to sort out." 559 00:25:37,036 --> 00:25:39,122 You see that? 560 00:25:41,082 --> 00:25:43,876 "A lot of transformations that he had to go through." 561 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,672 Judge: Mr. Galvin, summation. 562 00:25:47,755 --> 00:25:51,801 "Lot of recognitions, discoveries." 563 00:25:52,677 --> 00:25:55,388 "And even there at the last moment 564 00:25:55,471 --> 00:25:59,475 when he prepared this long harangue to give the jury, 565 00:25:59,559 --> 00:26:03,396 he had it in his hands and he finally just chucked it 566 00:26:03,479 --> 00:26:04,856 and said..." 567 00:26:04,939 --> 00:26:09,360 [ Sighs ] 568 00:26:09,444 --> 00:26:13,156 You know, so much of the time, we're just lost. 569 00:26:15,742 --> 00:26:19,829 Say, "Please, God, tell us what is right. 570 00:26:19,912 --> 00:26:21,873 Tell us what is true. 571 00:26:24,625 --> 00:26:26,753 I mean, there is no justice. 572 00:26:29,088 --> 00:26:32,175 The rich win, the poor are powerless. 573 00:26:37,555 --> 00:26:39,974 We become... 574 00:26:40,058 --> 00:26:42,769 tired of hearing people lie. 575 00:26:45,146 --> 00:26:47,732 And after a time, we become dead. 576 00:26:50,568 --> 00:26:53,279 We think of ourselves... 577 00:26:55,323 --> 00:26:58,659 ...as victims. 578 00:26:58,743 --> 00:27:00,661 And we become victims. 579 00:27:03,790 --> 00:27:06,292 We become... 580 00:27:09,003 --> 00:27:11,172 We become weak. 581 00:27:13,216 --> 00:27:15,968 We doubt ourselves. We doubt our beliefs. 582 00:27:18,721 --> 00:27:21,432 We doubt our institutions. 583 00:27:24,352 --> 00:27:26,729 And we doubt the law. 584 00:27:26,813 --> 00:27:29,148 Today you are the law. 585 00:27:33,361 --> 00:27:36,447 You are the law. 586 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,911 Not some book. 587 00:27:41,994 --> 00:27:43,996 not the lawyers. 588 00:27:46,374 --> 00:27:50,711 Not a marble statue 589 00:27:50,795 --> 00:27:52,630 or the trappings of the court. 590 00:27:54,674 --> 00:28:02,390 See, those are just symbols of our desire... 591 00:28:02,473 --> 00:28:04,475 to be just. 592 00:28:07,812 --> 00:28:10,940 They are... 593 00:28:11,023 --> 00:28:13,568 They are, in fact, a prayer... 594 00:28:15,361 --> 00:28:18,489 ...a fervent and a frightening prayer. 595 00:28:18,573 --> 00:28:23,494 ♪♪ 596 00:28:23,578 --> 00:28:26,956 In my religion, 597 00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:29,834 they say act as if you had faith. 598 00:28:31,419 --> 00:28:34,881 Faith will be given to you. 599 00:28:37,049 --> 00:28:39,760 If... 600 00:28:42,597 --> 00:28:47,185 ...if we are to have faith in justice... 601 00:28:49,312 --> 00:28:52,106 ...we need only to believe in ourselves. 602 00:28:54,692 --> 00:28:56,068 And act with justice. 603 00:28:56,152 --> 00:29:02,033 ♪♪ 604 00:29:02,116 --> 00:29:08,873 ♪♪ 605 00:29:08,956 --> 00:29:13,669 ♪♪ 606 00:29:13,753 --> 00:29:16,172 McCarthy: "There is, for whatever reason -- 607 00:29:16,255 --> 00:29:18,508 I wouldn't presume to know the reason. 608 00:29:18,591 --> 00:29:23,804 I mean, Paul clearly feels that redemption is necessary." 609 00:29:25,890 --> 00:29:27,350 Woman #8: Among the many causes 610 00:29:27,433 --> 00:29:30,061 to which Newman and Woodward donate time and money, 611 00:29:30,144 --> 00:29:32,980 none is more poignant than the Scott Newman Center, 612 00:29:33,064 --> 00:29:36,192 dedicated to the fight against drug abuse. 613 00:29:36,275 --> 00:29:39,403 We had to do something in his memory. 614 00:29:39,487 --> 00:29:41,948 The cost of a joint laced with PCP 615 00:29:42,031 --> 00:29:43,574 is about the same as a school lunch. 616 00:29:43,658 --> 00:29:46,577 But the effects are unpredictable 617 00:29:46,661 --> 00:29:48,079 and they are uncontrollable. 618 00:29:48,162 --> 00:29:49,997 My biggest involvement is with the Scott Newman Center, 619 00:29:50,081 --> 00:29:53,417 which is the center we established for drug abuse 620 00:29:53,501 --> 00:29:54,418 in California, 621 00:29:54,502 --> 00:29:57,838 and also with the Hole in the Wall Gang Camp. 622 00:29:57,922 --> 00:29:59,173 Woman #9: The camp is designed 623 00:29:59,257 --> 00:30:00,758 to offer desperately ill children 624 00:30:00,841 --> 00:30:02,385 a camping experience. 625 00:30:02,468 --> 00:30:05,304 Stahl: After his son died, Newman became philanthropic, 626 00:30:05,388 --> 00:30:08,432 one of the most philanthropic actors ever. 627 00:30:08,516 --> 00:30:11,936 Among other things, he built the Hole in the Wall Gang Camp 628 00:30:12,019 --> 00:30:14,855 in rural Connecticut, where kids with leukemia 629 00:30:14,939 --> 00:30:17,108 and AIDS come free in the summer. 630 00:30:17,191 --> 00:30:18,276 And it doesn't look like a hospital. 631 00:30:18,359 --> 00:30:21,028 No, I'll say that. 632 00:30:21,112 --> 00:30:22,738 it doesn't look anything like a hospital. 633 00:30:22,822 --> 00:30:25,783 Dickey: "I think this camp is bound up with Scott. 634 00:30:25,866 --> 00:30:30,955 I mean, what do we have? Kids whose lives are threatened. 635 00:30:31,038 --> 00:30:33,624 Now, Paul, he's gonna save some. 636 00:30:33,708 --> 00:30:36,168 He's gonna help save some, 637 00:30:36,252 --> 00:30:39,380 build up their strength and help them survive. 638 00:30:39,463 --> 00:30:40,840 Boy, you know, every time I see a hole in the wall again, 639 00:30:40,923 --> 00:30:43,801 it's like seeing it fresh for the first time. 640 00:30:43,884 --> 00:30:46,971 Woman #9: Half the $8 million cost of the camp 641 00:30:47,054 --> 00:30:48,681 is coming from the profits 642 00:30:48,764 --> 00:30:51,017 of Newman's Own salad dressing, popcorn and spaghetti sauce -- 643 00:30:51,100 --> 00:30:54,520 a food line the actor says he started on a whim. 644 00:30:54,604 --> 00:30:58,691 Just reminds me of just the passage of time 645 00:30:58,774 --> 00:31:00,484 and all glory is fleeting. 646 00:31:00,568 --> 00:31:03,195 And when I go to the grocery 647 00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:08,492 and I see his face on marinara sauce, 648 00:31:08,576 --> 00:31:11,120 there's something really incredible about that. 649 00:31:11,203 --> 00:31:14,248 You, yourself, make no profit from the salad dressing, 650 00:31:14,332 --> 00:31:16,667 the spaghetti sauce, or from the popcorn? 651 00:31:16,751 --> 00:31:18,252 Is that true? That's right. 652 00:31:18,336 --> 00:31:20,504 What do you do with all the money that comes in? 653 00:31:20,588 --> 00:31:23,799 We've given money to our founding hospitals 654 00:31:23,883 --> 00:31:26,510 and cancer and cystic fibrosis. 655 00:31:26,594 --> 00:31:29,430 His agents and people around him were like, 656 00:31:29,513 --> 00:31:32,850 "Don't put your face on the product. 657 00:31:32,933 --> 00:31:34,852 You know, that'll ruin your image." 658 00:31:34,935 --> 00:31:37,396 We have a new salsa, which is wonderful with chips, 659 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:38,481 coming out. 660 00:31:38,564 --> 00:31:41,359 Letterman: And in the beginning, 661 00:31:41,442 --> 00:31:44,820 you would see Paul Newman's face on lemonade cartons. 662 00:31:44,904 --> 00:31:46,906 And it was sort of a punch line. 663 00:31:46,989 --> 00:31:49,367 "Oh, my God. Paul Newman is missing." 664 00:31:49,450 --> 00:31:51,494 The top 10 least popular Paul Newman products. 665 00:31:51,577 --> 00:31:53,537 Allen: I remember being around people 666 00:31:53,621 --> 00:31:58,042 who liked to be derisive about him doing this. 667 00:31:58,125 --> 00:32:00,044 And I found myself on many, many occasions 668 00:32:00,127 --> 00:32:04,465 wanting to just shake them and say, "Are you crazy?" 669 00:32:06,592 --> 00:32:10,554 Letterman: And least popular Paul Newman product... 670 00:32:10,638 --> 00:32:11,514 There you go. 671 00:32:11,597 --> 00:32:14,392 When I got to realize what Paul was up to, 672 00:32:14,475 --> 00:32:16,811 it embarrassed me. 673 00:32:16,894 --> 00:32:20,106 The introspection required to make this decision 674 00:32:20,189 --> 00:32:21,399 I found remarkable. 675 00:32:21,482 --> 00:32:22,441 Now, you have two. You have Newman's Own, 676 00:32:22,525 --> 00:32:24,777 and then you have the Newman's Own organic line. 677 00:32:24,860 --> 00:32:26,737 That -- that's my daughter's, 678 00:32:26,821 --> 00:32:29,532 and it's -- it's going gangbusters. Yeah. 679 00:32:29,615 --> 00:32:33,244 To think that through and to put his ego aside, 680 00:32:33,327 --> 00:32:36,288 I thought was astounding. 681 00:32:36,372 --> 00:32:38,582 Man #3: The superstar, racing-car driver 682 00:32:38,666 --> 00:32:40,251 and Mr. Salad Dressing is planning 683 00:32:40,334 --> 00:32:42,378 to transform the property in County Kildare 684 00:32:42,461 --> 00:32:44,338 into a holiday home for sick children. 685 00:32:44,422 --> 00:32:47,550 Woman #10: He's decided to create a company 686 00:32:47,633 --> 00:32:49,969 and sort of reformulate 687 00:32:50,052 --> 00:32:53,180 what a company that makes money can be 688 00:32:53,264 --> 00:32:55,599 and channeled that into helping people. 689 00:32:55,683 --> 00:32:56,600 Shalit: Salad dressing, popcorn, 690 00:32:56,684 --> 00:32:59,937 lemonade and spaghetti sauce. 691 00:33:00,020 --> 00:33:01,313 How are they doing? 692 00:33:01,397 --> 00:33:04,066 Well, they're out-grossing my films, 693 00:33:04,150 --> 00:33:05,443 I'll tell you that. 694 00:33:05,526 --> 00:33:07,987 The realization is they actually did that 695 00:33:08,070 --> 00:33:09,530 as a human being. 696 00:33:09,613 --> 00:33:11,157 They're not a god. 697 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,117 They did that as a person. 698 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:13,784 Letterman: Close to $150 million? 699 00:33:13,868 --> 00:33:16,829 Paul: About $125 million, 700 00:33:16,912 --> 00:33:18,205 give or take a couple of bucks. 701 00:33:18,289 --> 00:33:19,665 That's remarkable. That's something... 702 00:33:19,749 --> 00:33:21,375 Letterman: It's still going strong, you know. 703 00:33:21,459 --> 00:33:23,627 I just thought the scope of what this -- 704 00:33:23,711 --> 00:33:25,463 I said, "This is -- This is -- 705 00:33:25,546 --> 00:33:27,339 This is humanity. 706 00:33:27,423 --> 00:33:28,174 This -- this is what is required 707 00:33:28,257 --> 00:33:31,635 from the minute we all draw breath." 708 00:33:31,719 --> 00:33:34,305 Here. Take it all. 709 00:33:38,601 --> 00:33:41,145 Think you used enough dynamite there, bud? 710 00:33:43,063 --> 00:33:48,152 And it wasn't till later, far too much later, 711 00:33:48,235 --> 00:33:54,158 I went to the Hole in the Wall Gang Camp in Connecticut. 712 00:33:54,241 --> 00:33:57,453 And I don't recall a circumstance in my life 713 00:33:57,536 --> 00:34:03,000 being as moved as I was by that visit. 714 00:34:03,083 --> 00:34:04,877 And it was just being near the kids and their family? 715 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,962 What was pulling on you? 716 00:34:07,046 --> 00:34:10,716 The fact that everything was great, 717 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,053 in spite of the fact that everything was far from great. 718 00:34:14,136 --> 00:34:18,349 But in that context, everything was great. 719 00:34:18,432 --> 00:34:22,061 And now I began to see Paul in a much different light. 720 00:34:22,144 --> 00:34:28,776 And I thought -- And I did. I started to cry. 721 00:34:28,859 --> 00:34:31,403 It was powerful. 722 00:34:31,487 --> 00:34:34,990 Man #4: Only an actor as confident as Paul Newman 723 00:34:35,074 --> 00:34:40,204 would take on a character with as many flaws as this lawyer. 724 00:34:40,287 --> 00:34:43,249 Man #11: The loser in this case is a broken-down Boston lawyer 725 00:34:43,332 --> 00:34:45,042 named Frank Galvin, 726 00:34:45,125 --> 00:34:47,294 and he's played in a great performance by Paul Newman. 727 00:34:47,378 --> 00:34:49,004 Ebert: I thought it was a great movie. 728 00:34:49,088 --> 00:34:50,965 I think Newman has a real chance of winning the Oscar this year 729 00:34:51,048 --> 00:34:52,550 for this performance. 730 00:34:52,633 --> 00:34:55,219 Woman #11: Paul Newman in "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof." 731 00:34:55,302 --> 00:34:58,472 David Niven in "Separate Tables." 732 00:34:58,556 --> 00:35:00,266 Woman #12: Paul Newman in "The Hustler." 733 00:35:00,349 --> 00:35:03,352 Maximilian Schell in Judgment at Nuremberg." 734 00:35:03,435 --> 00:35:06,272 Woman #13: Paul Newman in "Hud." 735 00:35:06,355 --> 00:35:07,731 Sidney Poitier in "Lilies of the Field." 736 00:35:07,815 --> 00:35:10,484 Woman #14: Warren Beatty in "Bonnie and Clyde," 737 00:35:10,568 --> 00:35:13,279 Paul Newman in "Cool Hand Luke" 738 00:35:13,362 --> 00:35:16,699 and Rod Steiger, "In the Heat of the Night." 739 00:35:16,782 --> 00:35:18,033 May I have the envelope? 740 00:35:18,117 --> 00:35:19,493 Thank you. 741 00:35:23,998 --> 00:35:26,250 Rod Steiger, "In the Heat of the Night." 742 00:35:29,545 --> 00:35:31,630 The winner is Sidney Poitier. 743 00:35:31,714 --> 00:35:34,425 Maximilian Schell. 744 00:35:34,508 --> 00:35:36,760 [ Cheers and applause ] 745 00:35:36,844 --> 00:35:37,595 David Niven. 746 00:35:37,678 --> 00:35:42,099 [ Cheers and applause ] 747 00:35:42,182 --> 00:35:44,101 Cavett: You know, I didn't realize something about you -- 748 00:35:44,184 --> 00:35:45,895 that you have never won, never won. 749 00:35:45,978 --> 00:35:48,772 Have you thought of going into a business 750 00:35:48,856 --> 00:35:51,275 you might be better at? No, but I... 751 00:35:51,358 --> 00:35:53,944 Ashmanskas: "I never even heard Paul mention the Academy Award. 752 00:35:54,028 --> 00:35:55,821 Although everybody else gets very overexcited 753 00:35:55,905 --> 00:35:58,532 each time he's passed over." 754 00:35:58,616 --> 00:36:00,868 There are many outstanding performances by actors 755 00:36:00,951 --> 00:36:03,120 in leading roles in this year of brilliant movies. 756 00:36:03,204 --> 00:36:07,207 The five nominees are Dustin Hoffman in "Tootsie"... 757 00:36:07,291 --> 00:36:08,834 [ Cheers and applause ] 758 00:36:08,918 --> 00:36:11,921 ...Ben Kingsley in "Gandhi"... 759 00:36:12,004 --> 00:36:14,882 [ Cheers and applause ] 760 00:36:16,717 --> 00:36:18,218 ...Jack Lemmon in "Missing"... 761 00:36:18,302 --> 00:36:20,095 [ Cheers and applause ] 762 00:36:22,973 --> 00:36:25,392 ...Paul Newman in "The Verdict"... 763 00:36:25,476 --> 00:36:26,435 [ Cheers and applause ] 764 00:36:26,518 --> 00:36:33,525 ♪♪ 765 00:36:33,609 --> 00:36:34,818 ...Peter O'Toole in "My Favorite Year." 766 00:36:34,902 --> 00:36:37,780 [ Cheers and applause ] 767 00:36:40,532 --> 00:36:42,201 Five outstanding performances. 768 00:36:42,284 --> 00:36:44,620 And the winner is... 769 00:36:44,703 --> 00:36:46,163 Ben Kingsley in "Gandhi." 770 00:36:49,333 --> 00:36:54,171 ♪♪ 771 00:36:54,254 --> 00:36:59,093 ♪♪ 772 00:36:59,176 --> 00:37:04,098 ♪♪ 773 00:37:07,309 --> 00:37:11,397 Ladies and gentlemen, members of the Academy, 774 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,359 you have bereft me of all words... 775 00:37:15,442 --> 00:37:17,361 Clooney: "When I lost the race at Lime Rock 776 00:37:17,444 --> 00:37:22,825 after having led for 50, 64 laps against the best, 777 00:37:22,908 --> 00:37:28,831 on a non-power course, it was heartbreaking. 778 00:37:28,914 --> 00:37:30,874 Not because I lost, 779 00:37:30,958 --> 00:37:35,879 but because I don't have that many races left in me." 780 00:37:35,963 --> 00:37:38,257 This is an Oscar for vision, for courage, 781 00:37:38,340 --> 00:37:41,427 and for acting and for peace. Thank you. 782 00:37:41,510 --> 00:37:46,348 Clooney: "Losing that race was like losing the year." 783 00:37:46,432 --> 00:37:52,896 ♪♪ 784 00:37:52,980 --> 00:37:54,898 Kazan: I had one more question for you. 785 00:37:54,982 --> 00:37:56,442 Ethan: What is it? What are you -- 786 00:37:56,525 --> 00:38:01,030 What are you learning about yourself making this? 787 00:38:01,113 --> 00:38:06,827 Like, how does this make you reflect on -- on you? 788 00:38:10,331 --> 00:38:12,041 Um... 789 00:38:17,504 --> 00:38:19,423 It makes me... 790 00:38:23,135 --> 00:38:27,222 -Recording in progress. -Perfect. 791 00:38:27,306 --> 00:38:28,932 Well, thanks for doing this. I'm doing really well. 792 00:38:29,016 --> 00:38:30,768 Thanks for, you know, thanks for signing on 793 00:38:30,851 --> 00:38:32,311 here with me. I really appreciate it. 794 00:38:32,394 --> 00:38:33,604 I think we live in a culture 795 00:38:33,687 --> 00:38:35,856 where we're kind of reinforced daily 796 00:38:35,939 --> 00:38:37,733 that life is accomplishment. 797 00:38:37,816 --> 00:38:40,152 And yet all of that is fleeting. 798 00:38:40,235 --> 00:38:41,320 All of it is -- 799 00:38:41,403 --> 00:38:42,863 I went into your grandparents' barn, 800 00:38:42,946 --> 00:38:44,239 And, you know, behind the movie theater, 801 00:38:44,323 --> 00:38:48,619 there's that screen with all those awards. 802 00:38:48,702 --> 00:38:52,456 For me, they had two of everything 803 00:38:52,539 --> 00:38:53,707 I ever coveted. 804 00:38:53,791 --> 00:38:56,502 There's four Oscars on the shelf. 805 00:38:56,585 --> 00:38:59,004 There's her Cannes Film Festival Best Actress. 806 00:38:59,088 --> 00:39:01,381 There's his Cannes Film Festival Best Actor. 807 00:39:01,465 --> 00:39:03,801 There's his Berlin Best Actor. 808 00:39:03,884 --> 00:39:07,888 There's, you know, her 19 Emmys. Henry: Right. 809 00:39:07,971 --> 00:39:11,558 And there they are, just sitting in dust. 810 00:39:11,642 --> 00:39:14,520 I'm staring at it, going, "Wow. 811 00:39:14,603 --> 00:39:16,980 At the final moment... 812 00:39:17,064 --> 00:39:19,441 none of this means anything. 813 00:39:19,525 --> 00:39:22,528 What matters is you." 814 00:39:23,821 --> 00:39:27,741 So who's got a hug for a lonely old man? 815 00:39:29,076 --> 00:39:30,869 Peter: I understood he was famous. 816 00:39:30,953 --> 00:39:34,540 I knew about the movies and I thought it was really cool. 817 00:39:34,623 --> 00:39:38,961 But it was more that he was my grandfather. 818 00:39:40,629 --> 00:39:43,257 John: Did you bring the necessary? 819 00:39:43,340 --> 00:39:44,424 Yes. 820 00:39:44,508 --> 00:39:45,926 If you'll excuse me, 821 00:39:46,009 --> 00:39:47,636 I have urgent business with these young gentlemen. 822 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,973 The movies where he's older 823 00:39:51,056 --> 00:39:54,059 are the movies where I really see him as my grandfather. 824 00:39:54,143 --> 00:39:57,020 Call the cops! I know hustlers when I see them. 825 00:39:57,104 --> 00:39:59,648 Like "Road to Perdition" or like -- 826 00:39:59,731 --> 00:40:02,860 "Cars" came out when I was... 827 00:40:02,943 --> 00:40:05,362 9 or 10 years old. 828 00:40:05,445 --> 00:40:07,781 Break it loose and just drive it with the throttle. 829 00:40:07,865 --> 00:40:09,074 Did you ever see that movie "Nobody's Fool"? 830 00:40:09,158 --> 00:40:12,661 I haven't. I haven't seen it. 831 00:40:12,744 --> 00:40:13,537 You know what I used to do 832 00:40:13,620 --> 00:40:17,958 when I was your age and I got scared? 833 00:40:18,041 --> 00:40:22,713 I try to be brave for exactly a minute. 834 00:40:22,796 --> 00:40:23,505 And the next time, 835 00:40:23,589 --> 00:40:26,049 I try to be brave for two minutes. 836 00:40:26,133 --> 00:40:29,344 What were you scared of? 837 00:40:31,138 --> 00:40:32,890 I don't remember. 838 00:40:32,973 --> 00:40:34,892 But, hey... 839 00:40:34,975 --> 00:40:37,895 When you get to be my age, you won't remember either. 840 00:40:39,855 --> 00:40:41,607 Here. 841 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,862 You can time yourself with it. 842 00:40:46,945 --> 00:40:48,655 The big hand goes around once, 843 00:40:48,739 --> 00:40:50,240 that'll be a minute. 844 00:40:50,324 --> 00:40:51,450 Goes around again, that'll be two minutes. 845 00:40:51,533 --> 00:40:55,746 And you can tell how long you've been brave. 846 00:40:55,829 --> 00:40:57,623 Here. 847 00:41:00,375 --> 00:41:02,586 Thank you. 848 00:41:04,254 --> 00:41:06,256 You're welcome. 849 00:41:06,340 --> 00:41:12,888 ♪♪ 850 00:41:12,971 --> 00:41:15,140 I really feel like it was such an amazing do-over for them. 851 00:41:15,224 --> 00:41:18,101 And the fact that I had boys... 852 00:41:18,185 --> 00:41:20,562 What's taking you so long? 853 00:41:20,646 --> 00:41:22,439 I have to pee. 854 00:41:22,523 --> 00:41:23,774 Henry: What I remember is, like, 855 00:41:23,857 --> 00:41:26,235 him coming over and flipping burgers. 856 00:41:26,318 --> 00:41:27,653 I saw them all the time. 857 00:41:27,736 --> 00:41:29,404 They lived next door, so you couldn't avoid it. 858 00:41:29,488 --> 00:41:31,949 But I saw them all the time. 859 00:41:32,032 --> 00:41:33,492 Woodward: I have grandchildren now 860 00:41:33,575 --> 00:41:35,994 and we swim together and we talk. 861 00:41:36,078 --> 00:41:39,456 They listen and I listen to them. 862 00:41:39,539 --> 00:41:41,083 And it's a moment in time. 863 00:41:41,166 --> 00:41:43,126 The most important thing is at 72, 864 00:41:43,210 --> 00:41:44,169 you can take that time. 865 00:41:44,253 --> 00:41:47,839 You can say, "The most important thing I can do now 866 00:41:47,923 --> 00:41:52,094 is listen to this child and talk to this child. 867 00:41:52,177 --> 00:41:54,680 And there's nothing I will do in this day 868 00:41:54,763 --> 00:41:58,058 that will be more important than this hour 869 00:41:58,141 --> 00:41:59,142 I'm spending with Peter or with Henry." 870 00:41:59,226 --> 00:42:02,813 Sully: You want to drive? 871 00:42:05,315 --> 00:42:06,692 Come on over. 872 00:42:06,775 --> 00:42:09,653 Come on. Scoot over. 873 00:42:09,736 --> 00:42:11,154 There you go. 874 00:42:11,238 --> 00:42:14,283 Just be careful of my bum leg, okay? 875 00:42:14,366 --> 00:42:16,243 Ahh. 876 00:42:16,326 --> 00:42:17,160 There you go. 877 00:42:17,244 --> 00:42:18,954 Put your hands on the wheel right up here. 878 00:42:19,037 --> 00:42:20,914 Melissa: For my dad, because he lost a son, 879 00:42:20,998 --> 00:42:24,501 it was really amazing for him to have two boys. 880 00:42:24,584 --> 00:42:28,880 You know, he was -- he was a really excellent grandfather. 881 00:42:28,964 --> 00:42:31,591 Okay. You're on your own, kid. 882 00:42:33,635 --> 00:42:35,012 Whoo. Wait. Oh, ho, ho, ho, ho! 883 00:42:35,095 --> 00:42:37,973 Back. There you go. 884 00:42:38,056 --> 00:42:39,308 There we go. 885 00:42:39,391 --> 00:42:41,143 Boy: It's jiggling. 886 00:42:41,226 --> 00:42:42,853 Nah, it's not jiggling. It's wobbling. 887 00:42:42,936 --> 00:42:45,480 That's what old trucks do. They wobble. 888 00:42:45,564 --> 00:42:48,734 I like it. It's a nice truck. 889 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,238 Yeah, it is. It is kind of a nice truck. 890 00:42:53,322 --> 00:43:00,078 ♪♪ 891 00:43:00,162 --> 00:43:02,748 Peter: And it was really difficult when he passed away 892 00:43:02,831 --> 00:43:05,709 because he was such a big part of my life. 893 00:43:05,792 --> 00:43:09,671 What was it like in those final months? 894 00:43:10,547 --> 00:43:14,092 I mean, I... looked up to him so much 895 00:43:14,176 --> 00:43:16,511 and loved him so much 896 00:43:16,595 --> 00:43:20,390 that it was really hard to see in the same way 897 00:43:20,474 --> 00:43:23,810 that it's hard for anyone to see 898 00:43:23,894 --> 00:43:25,062 someone that they view as really strong 899 00:43:25,145 --> 00:43:27,606 becoming so weak. 900 00:43:27,689 --> 00:43:30,150 [ Cheers and applause ] 901 00:43:38,658 --> 00:43:40,410 And it's been weird to go through that 902 00:43:40,494 --> 00:43:47,334 with my grandmother now, but so slowly 903 00:43:47,417 --> 00:43:51,213 because in one sense, I lost her a long time ago, 904 00:43:51,296 --> 00:43:54,216 but in another sense, I haven't lost her yet. 905 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,227 Hi. 906 00:44:11,274 --> 00:44:12,943 I... 907 00:44:15,362 --> 00:44:19,616 I wrote something to read. 908 00:44:21,743 --> 00:44:30,877 ♪♪ 909 00:44:30,961 --> 00:44:32,754 When did the symptoms of Alzheimer's 910 00:44:32,838 --> 00:44:33,880 start showing themselves? 911 00:44:33,964 --> 00:44:36,800 Wachtel: Yeah, I watched that "Do You Remember Love," 912 00:44:36,883 --> 00:44:37,926 by the way. My God, I forgot she did that. 913 00:44:38,009 --> 00:44:42,472 But it's so powerful that years before it happened, 914 00:44:42,556 --> 00:44:44,141 she actually played it. 915 00:44:44,224 --> 00:44:45,308 It's incredible. 916 00:44:45,392 --> 00:44:47,060 It's brave is what it is. 917 00:44:47,144 --> 00:44:49,938 It's like, "This is what my future might look like. 918 00:44:50,021 --> 00:44:51,064 I'm gonna do this." 919 00:44:51,148 --> 00:44:53,775 Barbara has Alzheimer's disease. 920 00:44:58,738 --> 00:45:02,367 So with your permission... 921 00:45:02,451 --> 00:45:05,036 Yeah? 922 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,621 ...our friend Dylan Thomas once told us, 923 00:45:06,705 --> 00:45:11,835 "Do not go gentle into that good night." 924 00:45:11,918 --> 00:45:13,962 And my friends, I have tried to rage 925 00:45:14,045 --> 00:45:16,298 against the dying of the light. 926 00:45:17,757 --> 00:45:21,178 "But now my rage has long since spent. 927 00:45:21,261 --> 00:45:23,847 Not squandered, 928 00:45:23,930 --> 00:45:25,724 not even proudly laid upon the bar, 929 00:45:25,807 --> 00:45:32,189 but given out grudgingly to a dark, unseen creditor 930 00:45:32,272 --> 00:45:33,607 who drags me into the darkness 931 00:45:33,690 --> 00:45:38,195 for debts I do not remember." 932 00:45:38,278 --> 00:45:39,696 Clea: And right after he had died, 933 00:45:39,779 --> 00:45:44,576 Mom went upstairs to their old bedroom, 934 00:45:44,659 --> 00:45:48,497 and she sat in the wing chair. 935 00:45:48,580 --> 00:45:49,623 Um... 936 00:45:49,706 --> 00:45:54,044 And I just sat at her feet, and I just held her hands. 937 00:45:54,127 --> 00:45:56,880 And we must have sat there for three hours. 938 00:45:56,963 --> 00:46:02,052 Like, I think that loss was more than she could bear. 939 00:46:11,394 --> 00:46:14,940 Linney: "It takes such an awful long time to grow up. 940 00:46:15,023 --> 00:46:17,400 And by the time you really get there, 941 00:46:17,484 --> 00:46:20,237 usually the people you're growing up for 942 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:21,530 are gone." 943 00:46:21,613 --> 00:46:23,573 Listen to the locusts. 944 00:46:23,657 --> 00:46:25,283 [ Locusts chirping ] 945 00:46:25,367 --> 00:46:28,537 I wonder where they go when the summer's over. 946 00:46:28,620 --> 00:46:34,918 ♪♪ 947 00:46:35,001 --> 00:46:37,087 Scorsese: I go from "Three Faces of Eve" 948 00:46:37,170 --> 00:46:38,547 to "Mr. and Mrs. Bridge." 949 00:46:38,630 --> 00:46:43,843 That's -- That for me is -- is the journey. 950 00:46:43,927 --> 00:46:45,178 James Ivory. 951 00:46:45,262 --> 00:46:48,098 It's a masterpiece film, it really is. 952 00:46:48,181 --> 00:46:50,100 Man #5: According to my copy, it says pronounced. 953 00:46:50,183 --> 00:46:53,270 Clooney: "Joanne read the book 'Mr. and Mrs. Bridge.' 954 00:46:53,353 --> 00:46:59,234 You could describe the story as being about absolutely nothing. 955 00:46:59,317 --> 00:47:03,113 But it's really about everything. 956 00:47:03,196 --> 00:47:03,780 Is there any more news? 957 00:47:03,863 --> 00:47:06,283 Mr. Bridge, the club prefers 958 00:47:06,366 --> 00:47:08,118 that everyone go to the basement immediately. 959 00:47:08,201 --> 00:47:09,202 Please. 960 00:47:09,286 --> 00:47:13,957 Wait! Oh. Oh! 961 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:15,333 He won't retreat. 962 00:47:15,417 --> 00:47:17,919 He doesn't know the meaning of the word. 963 00:47:18,003 --> 00:47:20,463 [ Thunder crashes ] 964 00:47:21,214 --> 00:47:24,175 Poltermann: "Did they rehearse together privately or... 965 00:47:24,259 --> 00:47:26,761 I mean, in a certain sense, I guess they could have 966 00:47:26,845 --> 00:47:30,432 even directed themselves at that point." 967 00:47:36,229 --> 00:47:37,981 McGregor: "I'll tell you the sense 968 00:47:38,064 --> 00:47:39,858 in which they directed themselves. 969 00:47:39,941 --> 00:47:40,859 Each of them was calling up, 970 00:47:40,942 --> 00:47:45,155 summoning up people that I have never met, 971 00:47:45,238 --> 00:47:47,741 that I never knew who were their models." 972 00:47:47,824 --> 00:47:50,994 There's some here. 973 00:47:51,077 --> 00:47:52,871 Well, thank you very much. 974 00:47:52,954 --> 00:47:55,540 Walter, don't you think we might be better off 975 00:47:55,624 --> 00:47:58,335 downstairs in the basement? 976 00:47:58,418 --> 00:47:59,628 India. Now, look here. 977 00:47:59,711 --> 00:48:03,673 For 20 years, I've been telling you 978 00:48:03,757 --> 00:48:07,135 when something will happen and when it will not happen. 979 00:48:07,218 --> 00:48:09,679 Now, have I ever, 980 00:48:09,763 --> 00:48:14,017 on any significant occasion, been proved wrong? 981 00:48:16,227 --> 00:48:18,355 "Paul was remembering his father. 982 00:48:18,438 --> 00:48:21,107 Alright. 983 00:48:21,191 --> 00:48:22,233 Shalit: How would you characterize Mr. Bridge 984 00:48:22,317 --> 00:48:24,361 in the movie? 985 00:48:24,444 --> 00:48:26,529 This coffee is cold. 986 00:48:26,613 --> 00:48:28,865 Paul: As a very expensive violin 987 00:48:28,948 --> 00:48:32,077 with a lot of broken strings. That's very good. 988 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:33,703 McGregor: "They were creating their characters 989 00:48:33,787 --> 00:48:35,997 out of people they knew. 990 00:48:36,081 --> 00:48:39,084 These long-vanished people. 991 00:48:39,167 --> 00:48:40,377 Walter says that Franklin Roosevelt 992 00:48:40,460 --> 00:48:43,338 is ruining this country. 993 00:48:43,421 --> 00:48:47,050 You always vote the way Walter tells you to. 994 00:48:47,133 --> 00:48:48,301 I haven't -- 995 00:48:48,385 --> 00:48:51,221 And it's only my own fault, no one else 996 00:48:51,304 --> 00:48:52,972 that I haven't kept up. 997 00:48:53,056 --> 00:48:55,350 So I do have to depend on him. 998 00:48:55,433 --> 00:48:57,477 [ Sighs ] We do depend on them, don't we? 999 00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,396 Ethan: There's a great scene where she just says, 1000 00:48:59,479 --> 00:49:00,897 "I don't even know what to read." 1001 00:49:00,980 --> 00:49:04,317 I don't even know that. Isn't that awful? 1002 00:49:04,401 --> 00:49:08,113 I mean, she's basically showing the world 1003 00:49:08,196 --> 00:49:11,324 her mother and her mother's generation. 1004 00:49:11,408 --> 00:49:14,411 Attention, Air Corporal Bridge. 1005 00:49:14,494 --> 00:49:16,246 Attention, Air Corporal Bridge. 1006 00:49:16,329 --> 00:49:16,955 Get up this very minute 1007 00:49:17,038 --> 00:49:20,333 and shave off that silly mustache. 1008 00:49:29,092 --> 00:49:32,345 You are just like your father! 1009 00:49:32,429 --> 00:49:33,555 Exactly! 1010 00:49:36,015 --> 00:49:41,104 Poltermann: "Joanne did an interview and she said, 1011 00:49:41,187 --> 00:49:43,273 'There was a time in my generation 1012 00:49:43,356 --> 00:49:45,275 when you formed your home life 1013 00:49:45,358 --> 00:49:46,985 around your boyfriend or your father or your husband. 1014 00:49:47,068 --> 00:49:50,405 It had always been that way and it was very hard 1015 00:49:50,488 --> 00:49:53,950 for women of my generation to let go of that.'" 1016 00:49:54,033 --> 00:49:55,535 What? 1017 00:49:55,618 --> 00:49:57,996 McGregor: "Yeah. And I found that when the film came out, 1018 00:49:58,079 --> 00:49:59,247 younger members of the audience 1019 00:49:59,330 --> 00:50:03,418 could not imagine such a situation. 1020 00:50:03,501 --> 00:50:07,130 It was simply beyond their comprehension. 1021 00:50:07,213 --> 00:50:11,301 And for that reason, they could not empathize with Mrs. Bridge. 1022 00:50:14,053 --> 00:50:17,348 Who else would I be like if not my father? 1023 00:50:22,395 --> 00:50:23,521 "And I would say, 'Why don't you ask your grandmothers 1024 00:50:23,605 --> 00:50:26,024 about Mrs. Bridge?'" 1025 00:50:26,107 --> 00:50:31,654 ♪♪ 1026 00:50:31,738 --> 00:50:36,284 ♪♪ 1027 00:50:36,367 --> 00:50:42,999 ♪♪ 1028 00:50:46,669 --> 00:50:49,506 You're going to need someone 1029 00:50:49,589 --> 00:50:50,298 who can really look after you. 1030 00:50:50,381 --> 00:50:52,509 I have someone who looks after me. 1031 00:50:52,592 --> 00:50:54,177 No. Oh, no, I don't think so. 1032 00:50:54,260 --> 00:50:56,346 I don't think that's a good idea. 1033 00:50:57,347 --> 00:51:00,475 Do you still bet on that horse race of yours? 1034 00:51:00,558 --> 00:51:03,186 What, the trifecta? 1035 00:51:03,269 --> 00:51:04,687 Yes. Has it ever come in? 1036 00:51:04,771 --> 00:51:05,522 Not yet. 1037 00:51:05,605 --> 00:51:08,024 But you still bet on it. Well, sure. 1038 00:51:08,107 --> 00:51:10,360 I mean, the odds have got to kick in sooner or later. 1039 00:51:10,443 --> 00:51:12,821 Fine. That's exactly the way I feel about you. 1040 00:51:12,904 --> 00:51:16,241 Now, will you please drive me home? 1041 00:51:19,661 --> 00:51:20,870 Paul: I have been asked on several occasions 1042 00:51:20,954 --> 00:51:24,040 to try to explain what motivated me 1043 00:51:24,123 --> 00:51:29,003 to help build the Hole in the Wall Gang Camp. 1044 00:51:30,630 --> 00:51:32,257 I wish I could claim that it had come 1045 00:51:32,340 --> 00:51:34,008 from some extraordinary religious experience, 1046 00:51:34,092 --> 00:51:37,595 an epiphany of some kind, but it didn't. 1047 00:51:37,679 --> 00:51:41,182 I was trying to acknowledge, I think, luck -- 1048 00:51:41,266 --> 00:51:46,855 what an important part it has played in my life. 1049 00:51:46,938 --> 00:51:48,439 the benevolence of it... 1050 00:51:48,523 --> 00:51:50,733 Ethan: When I first went to that house 1051 00:51:50,817 --> 00:51:54,153 and I saw on the door to their bedroom 1052 00:51:54,237 --> 00:51:55,488 that strange photograph, 1053 00:51:55,572 --> 00:51:59,075 and it says, "Luck is an art!" you know? 1054 00:51:59,158 --> 00:52:00,451 Peter: Yeah. You know, my -- 1055 00:52:00,535 --> 00:52:02,203 Have you talked to my brother? He's got that -- 1056 00:52:02,287 --> 00:52:04,038 He's got that tattoo on his arm, right? 1057 00:52:04,122 --> 00:52:05,081 Yeah. Yeah. 1058 00:52:05,164 --> 00:52:06,624 So it's in his handwriting. 1059 00:52:06,708 --> 00:52:08,334 In his handwriting, which I think is super cool 1060 00:52:08,418 --> 00:52:09,752 and it's kind of getting faded and... 1061 00:52:09,836 --> 00:52:12,338 Luck is an art in the sense 1062 00:52:12,422 --> 00:52:14,132 that it matters what you do with that luck. 1063 00:52:14,215 --> 00:52:18,469 How do I want to make myself a more lucky person? 1064 00:52:18,553 --> 00:52:23,016 By putting in the work to be ready for those opportunities 1065 00:52:23,099 --> 00:52:24,350 when I'm offered them. 1066 00:52:24,434 --> 00:52:26,603 So, like, luck isn't really anything. 1067 00:52:26,686 --> 00:52:29,606 Luck is just practicing. 1068 00:52:29,689 --> 00:52:32,066 [ Man whistling ] 1069 00:52:32,150 --> 00:52:37,780 ♪♪ 1070 00:52:37,864 --> 00:52:40,366 Man #6: Nine-ball is rotation pool. 1071 00:52:40,450 --> 00:52:43,620 The balls are pocketed in numbered order. 1072 00:52:43,703 --> 00:52:46,039 The only ball that means anything, 1073 00:52:46,122 --> 00:52:48,499 that wins it, is the 9. 1074 00:52:48,583 --> 00:52:52,754 Now, the player can shoot eight trick shots in a row, 1075 00:52:52,837 --> 00:52:55,298 blow the 9 and lose. 1076 00:52:55,381 --> 00:53:00,094 On the other hand, the player can get the 9 in on the break 1077 00:53:00,178 --> 00:53:03,640 if the balls spread right and win. 1078 00:53:03,723 --> 00:53:08,811 Which is to say that luck plays a part in Nine-ball. 1079 00:53:08,895 --> 00:53:11,648 But for some players... 1080 00:53:14,150 --> 00:53:17,153 ...luck itself is an art. 1081 00:53:17,236 --> 00:53:23,034 ♪♪ 1082 00:53:23,117 --> 00:53:25,745 Ethan: Alright, can I tell you why 1083 00:53:25,828 --> 00:53:28,623 I've asked you to do this? Because I'm realizing 1084 00:53:28,706 --> 00:53:30,041 that inside "Color of Money" 1085 00:53:30,124 --> 00:53:34,003 is kind of the point of my film. Wow. 1086 00:53:34,087 --> 00:53:36,381 I always found the character of Eddie Felson 1087 00:53:36,464 --> 00:53:38,508 really interesting, and it had a lot to do, 1088 00:53:38,591 --> 00:53:39,550 I think, with a lot of characters in my other films 1089 00:53:39,634 --> 00:53:42,011 in a sense. 1090 00:53:42,095 --> 00:53:44,222 He was drawn and pulled by the same forces in a way, 1091 00:53:44,305 --> 00:53:48,184 and Paul Newman called and was interested 1092 00:53:48,267 --> 00:53:49,644 in doing a sequel to... 1093 00:53:49,727 --> 00:53:51,604 Paul calls up Marty and says, 1094 00:53:51,688 --> 00:53:54,524 "I really want to do a sequel to 'The Hustler.' 1095 00:53:54,607 --> 00:53:56,067 And Marty apparently says, "Well, what do you have?" 1096 00:53:56,150 --> 00:54:00,947 He said, "I got me and I got you." 1097 00:54:01,030 --> 00:54:01,698 You know? 1098 00:54:01,781 --> 00:54:03,616 Clooney: "I sent Scorsese the book. 1099 00:54:03,700 --> 00:54:05,785 And he and Richard Price, the novelist, got together 1100 00:54:05,868 --> 00:54:10,498 and they had the conclusion that the premise was not right. 1101 00:54:10,581 --> 00:54:12,041 When at the end of 'The Hustler,' 1102 00:54:12,125 --> 00:54:13,418 George C. Scott tells Eddie, 1103 00:54:13,501 --> 00:54:15,586 'Don't ever set foot in a pool hall again.'" 1104 00:54:15,670 --> 00:54:17,839 You'll never walk in a big-time pool hall again. 1105 00:54:17,922 --> 00:54:20,466 "Fast Eddie would have gone into decline for a while. 1106 00:54:20,550 --> 00:54:23,219 Heavy drinking, heavy fucking around. 1107 00:54:23,302 --> 00:54:26,097 But in the final analysis, because he was a great hustler, 1108 00:54:26,180 --> 00:54:28,891 he was kept out of the pool hall." 1109 00:54:28,975 --> 00:54:30,393 That's good stuff. 1110 00:54:30,476 --> 00:54:32,520 "He would have gone into something else. 1111 00:54:32,603 --> 00:54:34,731 I thought he should sell whiskey." 1112 00:54:34,814 --> 00:54:37,150 I can get you a case of this 1113 00:54:37,233 --> 00:54:38,901 for less than wholesale. 1114 00:54:38,985 --> 00:54:41,237 "A whiskey salesman who would become 1115 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,448 George C. Scott in his turn." 1116 00:54:45,408 --> 00:54:48,494 Kid's got a sledgehammer break. 1117 00:54:48,578 --> 00:54:50,204 I love that movie. I went opening weekend 1118 00:54:50,288 --> 00:54:53,416 and I saw it, you know, once a week, you know, 1119 00:54:53,499 --> 00:54:54,709 while it was in the theaters. 1120 00:54:54,792 --> 00:54:57,503 And I've seen the movie 15, 20 times. 1121 00:54:57,587 --> 00:55:00,006 Forget it. I know every line. 1122 00:55:00,089 --> 00:55:01,966 Are you a hustler, Amos? 1123 00:55:02,050 --> 00:55:03,342 Don't choke now, kid. 1124 00:55:03,426 --> 00:55:05,011 It ain't that tough a shot. 1125 00:55:05,094 --> 00:55:07,513 You know, just, you know, the little hustle, 1126 00:55:07,597 --> 00:55:09,766 the little sleazy, you know, 1127 00:55:09,849 --> 00:55:11,893 the naked girlfriend in there. He looks at her 1128 00:55:11,976 --> 00:55:13,853 just a little too long. A little too long. 1129 00:55:13,936 --> 00:55:15,730 He's a little -- It's a little pervy. 1130 00:55:15,813 --> 00:55:17,482 He's a little -- drinks too much. 1131 00:55:17,565 --> 00:55:20,443 He's a little -- He's a hustler, you know. 1132 00:55:20,526 --> 00:55:22,862 Two brothers and a stranger. Okay? 1133 00:55:22,945 --> 00:55:25,698 You got two guys that go to the bar. 1134 00:55:29,368 --> 00:55:30,536 Big money game. 1135 00:55:30,620 --> 00:55:32,288 Yeah, that's right. A big money game. 1136 00:55:32,371 --> 00:55:33,998 So why don't you take your hands off the girl and let us play? 1137 00:55:34,082 --> 00:55:34,791 Okay, guy? 1138 00:55:34,874 --> 00:55:37,335 What do you care where I put my hand? 1139 00:55:37,418 --> 00:55:38,544 Why don't you mind your own business? 1140 00:55:38,628 --> 00:55:40,296 Hey, Gramps, put your teeth back in. 1141 00:55:40,379 --> 00:55:41,214 Get your hands off your daughter there and pay attention. 1142 00:55:41,297 --> 00:55:43,674 You just might learn something here today. 1143 00:55:43,758 --> 00:55:45,134 Ethan: Paul really related to Eddie Felson. 1144 00:55:45,218 --> 00:55:48,596 The idea that to be good at anything, 1145 00:55:48,679 --> 00:55:49,680 you are a little bit of a hustler. 1146 00:55:49,764 --> 00:55:52,892 I put my hands on her, I'm playing a part. It's acting. 1147 00:55:52,975 --> 00:55:53,976 Your hands are all over her, Eddie! 1148 00:55:54,060 --> 00:55:57,855 I'm acting! It's acting! 1149 00:55:57,939 --> 00:55:58,981 Ethan: You know, Marty says this great thing, 1150 00:55:59,065 --> 00:56:00,358 what he said to Richard Price 1151 00:56:00,441 --> 00:56:03,778 when they were working on the script, was, 1152 00:56:03,861 --> 00:56:06,739 "We're making a well-tailored suit here." 1153 00:56:06,823 --> 00:56:08,157 You are a natural character. 1154 00:56:08,241 --> 00:56:11,494 You're an incredible flake. 1155 00:56:11,577 --> 00:56:12,245 But that's a gift. 1156 00:56:12,328 --> 00:56:14,497 See, guys spend half their life 1157 00:56:14,580 --> 00:56:17,667 trying to invent something like that. 1158 00:56:17,750 --> 00:56:20,128 But I'll tell you something, kiddo, 1159 00:56:20,211 --> 00:56:23,756 you couldn't find big time if you had a roadmap. 1160 00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:24,382 Clooney: "He says pool excellence 1161 00:56:24,465 --> 00:56:26,509 was not about playing pool. 1162 00:56:26,592 --> 00:56:28,177 It's about becoming something." 1163 00:56:28,261 --> 00:56:30,096 It's becoming something. 1164 00:56:30,179 --> 00:56:32,306 Like what? A student. 1165 00:56:32,390 --> 00:56:35,017 "When you hustle, you have to be a student 1166 00:56:35,101 --> 00:56:35,810 of human moves." 1167 00:56:35,893 --> 00:56:38,521 See, all the greats that I know of 1168 00:56:38,604 --> 00:56:39,438 were students of human... 1169 00:56:39,522 --> 00:56:42,066 "Wonderfully complicated and contradictory. 1170 00:56:42,150 --> 00:56:45,444 You have to know when to play above your game." 1171 00:56:45,528 --> 00:56:47,405 That's my area of excellence. 1172 00:56:47,488 --> 00:56:50,867 "You have to know when to play below your game." 1173 00:56:50,950 --> 00:56:52,869 Yeah. 1174 00:56:52,952 --> 00:56:54,871 "You got to be an actor." 1175 00:56:54,954 --> 00:56:57,707 Life is a game and it is a hustle. 1176 00:56:57,790 --> 00:57:00,293 Everybody's got talent. I got talent. 1177 00:57:00,376 --> 00:57:01,169 You think you can play big money straight pool 1178 00:57:01,252 --> 00:57:04,297 or poker for 40 straight hours 1179 00:57:04,380 --> 00:57:05,631 on nothing but talent? 1180 00:57:05,715 --> 00:57:07,675 Eddie: He's got the eye, he's got the stroke, 1181 00:57:07,758 --> 00:57:09,093 he's got the flake. 1182 00:57:09,177 --> 00:57:10,845 He's got that down cold. 1183 00:57:10,928 --> 00:57:13,014 But can he play flake on and flake off? 1184 00:57:13,097 --> 00:57:14,974 I don't know. 1185 00:57:15,057 --> 00:57:17,393 He's got to learn how to be himself 1186 00:57:17,476 --> 00:57:19,812 with a purpose. 1187 00:57:20,813 --> 00:57:23,107 "The motivations are just about as clear 1188 00:57:23,191 --> 00:57:24,108 as they are in life -- 1189 00:57:24,192 --> 00:57:27,278 a lot of mistakes, a lot of misinterpretations, 1190 00:57:27,361 --> 00:57:30,489 a lot of questions about what constitutes reality..." 1191 00:57:30,573 --> 00:57:31,657 I got a hunch, fat man. 1192 00:57:31,741 --> 00:57:33,910 I got a hunch. It's me from here on in. 1193 00:57:33,993 --> 00:57:34,869 "...a lot of contradictions. 1194 00:57:34,952 --> 00:57:36,078 I'm trying to teach the kid at one minute 1195 00:57:36,162 --> 00:57:37,496 how to be his best self 1196 00:57:37,580 --> 00:57:41,584 and the next how to hustle and be dishonest. 1197 00:57:41,667 --> 00:57:45,713 ♪ Werewolves of London ♪ 1198 00:57:45,796 --> 00:57:49,926 ♪ Ah-hoo ♪ 1199 00:57:50,009 --> 00:57:50,509 ♪ Ah-hoo ♪ 1200 00:57:50,593 --> 00:57:53,846 ♪ Werewolves of London ♪ 1201 00:57:53,930 --> 00:57:56,432 Clooney: "Showmanship. Barnum and Bailey. 1202 00:57:56,515 --> 00:57:57,767 It's a carnival. 1203 00:57:57,850 --> 00:57:58,976 At its most dishonest, at its most daring, 1204 00:57:59,060 --> 00:58:01,771 at its most corrupt, 1205 00:58:01,854 --> 00:58:04,065 it becomes closest to the edge of falling off. 1206 00:58:04,148 --> 00:58:07,068 And that's the allure of the hustle. 1207 00:58:07,151 --> 00:58:08,110 It's dangerous." 1208 00:58:08,194 --> 00:58:12,406 ♪ I saw Lon Chaney Jr. walking with the Queen ♪ 1209 00:58:12,490 --> 00:58:13,783 Clooney: "Very complicated arena. 1210 00:58:13,866 --> 00:58:15,910 Sometimes one set of rules governs conduct." 1211 00:58:15,993 --> 00:58:17,078 I'm the best you ever seen, Fats. 1212 00:58:17,161 --> 00:58:19,372 I'm the best there is. 1213 00:58:19,455 --> 00:58:22,250 "Next minute, another." 1214 00:58:22,333 --> 00:58:24,293 His hair was perfect. 1215 00:58:24,377 --> 00:58:25,670 [ Cheers and applause ] 1216 00:58:25,753 --> 00:58:28,631 Clooney: "That's why pool is not a simple game." 1217 00:58:33,219 --> 00:58:35,888 Not bad, my man. Not bad. 1218 00:58:35,972 --> 00:58:38,099 When you leaving town? Now, right? 1219 00:58:38,182 --> 00:58:41,644 Woodward: I admire Paul more than any man I know. 1220 00:58:41,727 --> 00:58:46,357 To see somebody translate himself from what could be 1221 00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:51,112 loosely described as a callow youth... 1222 00:58:51,195 --> 00:58:55,908 to a man of such intelligence, 1223 00:58:55,992 --> 00:59:00,830 such overwhelming involvement with the world 1224 00:59:00,913 --> 00:59:06,210 and to see him grow up, I guess that's the nicest thing. 1225 00:59:06,294 --> 00:59:09,005 We grew up together. 1226 00:59:09,088 --> 00:59:11,882 You know, we were kids and we were idiots 1227 00:59:11,966 --> 00:59:16,679 and all of that, and we grew up together. 1228 00:59:16,762 --> 00:59:19,181 How come you don't play pool anymore? 1229 00:59:19,265 --> 00:59:22,393 I quit. 1230 00:59:22,476 --> 00:59:24,020 Actually, somebody retired me. 1231 00:59:24,103 --> 00:59:24,937 Sometimes you get in 1232 00:59:25,021 --> 00:59:26,772 with the wrong kind of people, you know? 1233 00:59:26,856 --> 00:59:28,357 But, hey, that was a long time ago. 1234 00:59:28,441 --> 00:59:30,359 Clooney: "See, at the end of 'The Hustler,' 1235 00:59:30,443 --> 00:59:31,652 he had to abandon his talent 1236 00:59:31,736 --> 00:59:33,779 or wind up in a pair of concrete shoes. 1237 00:59:33,863 --> 00:59:36,574 So after a while, it got to be a little bit 1238 00:59:36,657 --> 00:59:37,325 like anyone else who has to quit. 1239 00:59:37,408 --> 00:59:40,619 Like racers and jockeys, athletes. 1240 00:59:40,703 --> 00:59:42,288 Got to do something else. 1241 00:59:42,371 --> 00:59:45,791 Joe DiMaggio. 1242 00:59:45,875 --> 00:59:47,918 And they forget what happened to Eddie 1243 00:59:48,002 --> 00:59:50,963 in 'The Color of Money' is that he remembers. 1244 00:59:51,047 --> 00:59:54,050 He gets re-introduced to excellence 1245 00:59:54,133 --> 00:59:55,718 through the boy, Vincent." 1246 00:59:55,801 --> 00:59:59,555 ♪♪ 1247 00:59:59,638 --> 01:00:02,016 Linklater: "Fast Eddie" has become something he loathed. 1248 01:00:02,099 --> 01:00:05,227 You know, he's become George C. Scott. 1249 01:00:05,311 --> 01:00:07,438 Gordon: You got to be hard, Eddie. 1250 01:00:07,521 --> 01:00:08,814 Kind of leeching off others. 1251 01:00:08,898 --> 01:00:12,818 And then somehow you see it well up in him. 1252 01:00:12,902 --> 01:00:15,363 And it's the emergence of his true self. 1253 01:00:15,446 --> 01:00:21,911 ♪♪ 1254 01:00:21,994 --> 01:00:30,419 ♪♪ 1255 01:00:30,503 --> 01:00:31,420 He overreaches, 1256 01:00:31,504 --> 01:00:34,090 he comes back, he retools himself. 1257 01:00:34,173 --> 01:00:35,091 He goes, you know, it's the glasses. 1258 01:00:35,174 --> 01:00:39,428 He goes into training. He's willing to work hard. 1259 01:00:39,512 --> 01:00:42,056 Joanne Woodward and Paul Newman will receive 1260 01:00:42,139 --> 01:00:44,767 a Franklin Roosevelt Four Freedoms Award 1261 01:00:44,850 --> 01:00:46,310 at the Roosevelt family... 1262 01:00:46,394 --> 01:00:50,940 Jean Hersholt Award to my treasured friend Paul Newman. 1263 01:00:51,023 --> 01:00:52,483 Woodward: We're all very self-involved. 1264 01:00:52,566 --> 01:00:54,944 Next honorees have delivered a lot... 1265 01:00:55,027 --> 01:00:58,197 That's just this country or maybe the world entirely, 1266 01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,826 since, as Paul says, the individual... 1267 01:01:01,909 --> 01:01:03,869 Paul: And just because she's had enough courage 1268 01:01:03,953 --> 01:01:07,331 to be there, owns a big chunk of this. 1269 01:01:07,415 --> 01:01:11,335 Thanks for a lot of good films, thanks for a lot of good times, 1270 01:01:11,419 --> 01:01:14,171 and thanks for the friendship. 1271 01:01:14,255 --> 01:01:19,885 ♪♪ 1272 01:01:19,969 --> 01:01:21,470 Ethan: It was always fascinating to me 1273 01:01:21,554 --> 01:01:23,139 that Paul would always talk about how lucky he was 1274 01:01:23,222 --> 01:01:26,142 when he had the most tragic thing happen. 1275 01:01:26,225 --> 01:01:29,019 But he worked so hard not to make that mistake again. 1276 01:01:29,103 --> 01:01:32,356 Man #7: As anyone can tell you, the greatest single secret 1277 01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,067 to success on the casino floor 1278 01:01:35,151 --> 01:01:36,193 is knowing how to play the game. 1279 01:01:36,277 --> 01:01:38,821 Clea: At 16, you know, 1280 01:01:38,904 --> 01:01:43,784 I kind of let loose and we call them my ugly years. 1281 01:01:43,868 --> 01:01:48,330 It was 16 to about 25. 1282 01:01:48,414 --> 01:01:50,040 He was afraid for me. 1283 01:01:50,124 --> 01:01:53,002 -Payout odds are... -You know, to be totally frank, 1284 01:01:53,085 --> 01:01:54,587 I mean, I think he was afraid for me 1285 01:01:54,670 --> 01:01:57,882 and he had already lost one kid and he was afraid. 1286 01:01:59,967 --> 01:02:03,471 I actually dragged Dad to therapy with me. 1287 01:02:05,014 --> 01:02:07,683 He showed up there once a week religiously. 1288 01:02:07,766 --> 01:02:11,187 He never missed an appointment for nine months with me. 1289 01:02:11,270 --> 01:02:13,272 Never. 1290 01:02:13,355 --> 01:02:15,524 He would, like, drive from sets. 1291 01:02:15,608 --> 01:02:16,984 I mean, it was amazing. 1292 01:02:17,067 --> 01:02:17,860 And they were 2-hour appointments 1293 01:02:17,943 --> 01:02:20,863 and we would cry and we would throw things. 1294 01:02:20,946 --> 01:02:26,535 ♪♪ 1295 01:02:26,619 --> 01:02:29,538 You know, it was an incredible gift. 1296 01:02:29,622 --> 01:02:32,041 And just to know that I was loved that much... 1297 01:02:32,124 --> 01:02:40,257 ♪♪ 1298 01:02:40,341 --> 01:02:44,720 ♪♪ 1299 01:02:44,803 --> 01:02:46,096 I'll never forget the phone call 1300 01:02:46,180 --> 01:02:48,098 that Gunilla called me after nine months 1301 01:02:48,182 --> 01:02:50,893 after we had kind of gone through our process. 1302 01:02:50,976 --> 01:02:52,436 And she said, 1303 01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,606 "Your father would like to come and see me separately. 1304 01:02:55,689 --> 01:02:58,817 Would you be okay with that?" 1305 01:02:58,901 --> 01:03:01,403 And I said, "Are you kidding?" 1306 01:03:01,487 --> 01:03:06,158 ♪♪ 1307 01:03:06,242 --> 01:03:09,954 Clooney: "The humanness of Eddie is so clear. 1308 01:03:10,037 --> 01:03:14,375 He's fucked and his life is so complicated." 1309 01:03:16,210 --> 01:03:19,630 "But nobody ever said anything was gonna be a pushover." 1310 01:03:19,713 --> 01:03:22,258 Clea: He had to go through so much. 1311 01:03:22,341 --> 01:03:25,928 I mean, you know, just with mom and his relationship 1312 01:03:26,011 --> 01:03:29,598 and with Scott's death and his drinking. 1313 01:03:29,682 --> 01:03:34,979 And I think he came to a really good place. 1314 01:03:35,062 --> 01:03:38,274 Ethan: And he says -- Newman says in his journal 1315 01:03:38,357 --> 01:03:41,110 about that movie, what he loves about it, 1316 01:03:41,193 --> 01:03:42,778 "I want you not to know who to root for." 1317 01:03:42,861 --> 01:03:46,865 Clooney: "I mean, who do you root for in life?" 1318 01:03:49,410 --> 01:03:51,370 "It was never a picture where you wondered, 1319 01:03:51,453 --> 01:03:53,789 'Will they get the cattle to Denver?' 1320 01:03:53,872 --> 01:03:56,959 It's not a big story point picture. 1321 01:03:57,042 --> 01:03:58,335 Linklater: In the way the film pulls 1322 01:03:58,419 --> 01:04:00,296 the rug out from underneath his victory. 1323 01:04:00,379 --> 01:04:04,466 When he does beat Tom Cruise and then later he comes in, 1324 01:04:04,550 --> 01:04:06,218 he's like, "I dumped." 1325 01:04:06,302 --> 01:04:07,469 Got a friend to lay all $4,000 on you, 1326 01:04:07,553 --> 01:04:08,762 and then I dumped. 1327 01:04:08,846 --> 01:04:11,348 And so the victory just, foom! 1328 01:04:11,432 --> 01:04:13,225 Disappears. 1329 01:04:13,309 --> 01:04:13,934 I want his best game. 1330 01:04:14,018 --> 01:04:15,519 Look, if you want his best game, 1331 01:04:15,603 --> 01:04:19,940 then go talk to him yourself. 1332 01:04:20,024 --> 01:04:21,150 Clooney: "Eddie was saying 1333 01:04:21,233 --> 01:04:23,027 you had the luxury of fucking around 1334 01:04:23,110 --> 01:04:24,486 and living on the edge and maybe being honest 1335 01:04:24,570 --> 01:04:27,448 and maybe not being honest. 1336 01:04:27,531 --> 01:04:30,909 I don't have time left for that anymore. 1337 01:04:30,993 --> 01:04:32,244 It's finite." 1338 01:04:32,328 --> 01:04:33,829 Eddie, what are you gonna do when I kick your ass? 1339 01:04:33,912 --> 01:04:37,583 Pick myself up and let you kick me again. 1340 01:04:40,002 --> 01:04:41,587 Oh, yeah? 1341 01:04:41,670 --> 01:04:44,006 Yeah. 1342 01:04:44,089 --> 01:04:46,300 Just don't put the money in the bank yet, 1343 01:04:46,383 --> 01:04:47,676 because if I don't whoop you now, 1344 01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:49,386 I'm gonna whoop you next month in Dallas. 1345 01:04:49,470 --> 01:04:52,473 In Houston, there's nothing coming up in Dallas. 1346 01:04:52,556 --> 01:04:54,475 Houston, Dallas. And if not then, 1347 01:04:54,558 --> 01:04:57,394 then the month after that in New Orleans. 1348 01:04:57,478 --> 01:04:59,563 Oh, yeah? What makes you so sure? 1349 01:05:05,444 --> 01:05:08,030 Hey. I'm back. 1350 01:05:08,113 --> 01:05:11,825 [ Balls clatter ] 1351 01:05:11,909 --> 01:05:12,534 Ethan: When I was a kid, I watched it. 1352 01:05:12,618 --> 01:05:16,038 He says, "I'm back" at the end. 1353 01:05:16,121 --> 01:05:17,331 But he didn't win. 1354 01:05:17,414 --> 01:05:19,333 No, no, he's back. He's just in the game. 1355 01:05:19,416 --> 01:05:21,085 That's what -- It doesn't matter. 1356 01:05:21,168 --> 01:05:22,711 I'll see you in Dallas next week. 1357 01:05:22,795 --> 01:05:24,713 I'll see you in Cleveland the week after. 1358 01:05:24,797 --> 01:05:25,881 Doesn't matter. 1359 01:05:25,964 --> 01:05:28,175 And the winner is... 1360 01:05:31,303 --> 01:05:34,390 The winner is Paul Newman. 1361 01:05:34,473 --> 01:05:36,725 [ Cheers and applause ] 1362 01:05:40,437 --> 01:05:42,022 Announcer #4: Ladies and gentlemen, 1363 01:05:42,106 --> 01:05:43,399 accepting the award for Paul Newman, 1364 01:05:43,482 --> 01:05:44,316 the president of the Academy 1365 01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:46,110 of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, 1366 01:05:46,193 --> 01:05:47,986 Mr. Robert Wise. 1367 01:05:48,070 --> 01:05:50,239 Martin Scorsese finally won 1368 01:05:50,322 --> 01:05:51,740 Paul Newman his Oscar. 1369 01:05:51,824 --> 01:05:53,784 He set out to make a hand-tailored suit, 1370 01:05:53,867 --> 01:05:54,952 and he did it. 1371 01:05:55,035 --> 01:05:57,287 But the genius of the whole hustle 1372 01:05:57,371 --> 01:06:02,292 is Paul didn't even go and he didn't even care. 1373 01:06:02,376 --> 01:06:03,961 Paul -- I'm sure he's listening -- 1374 01:06:04,044 --> 01:06:05,921 is not here tonight. 1375 01:06:06,004 --> 01:06:10,217 And this award, Paul, is long overdue. 1376 01:06:10,300 --> 01:06:14,596 The final play, he's not there. 1377 01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:15,305 He just dumped it. 1378 01:06:15,389 --> 01:06:17,099 Thank you, my dear. That's right. 1379 01:06:17,182 --> 01:06:19,101 Linklater: I love that he wasn't at the Oscars that year. 1380 01:06:19,184 --> 01:06:23,480 That really is him taking the money out of his pocket 1381 01:06:23,564 --> 01:06:26,191 and putting it back in Tom Cruise's pocket. 1382 01:06:26,275 --> 01:06:30,028 Like him saying, "I didn't do it for that." 1383 01:06:31,697 --> 01:06:35,284 Ethan: This is something from his -- in his transcript 1384 01:06:35,367 --> 01:06:36,577 that I really like. 1385 01:06:36,660 --> 01:06:39,538 He says, "The best races I drive 1386 01:06:39,621 --> 01:06:43,792 are the ones where I spin out early and lose position." 1387 01:06:43,876 --> 01:06:45,377 Clooney: "The best races I drive are the ones 1388 01:06:45,461 --> 01:06:47,463 where I spin out early and lose positions and go back 1389 01:06:47,546 --> 01:06:51,133 and I meticulously start knocking them off one by one. 1390 01:06:51,216 --> 01:06:54,219 'Cause if you don't give a shit, there's nothing at stake. 1391 01:06:54,303 --> 01:06:56,472 Nothing to take, nothing to lose." 1392 01:06:56,555 --> 01:06:57,473 "Nothing to lose." "You just go." 1393 01:06:57,556 --> 01:06:59,808 "Your mind is free." 1394 01:06:59,892 --> 01:07:01,685 "Your mind is free. Everything is free." 1395 01:07:01,769 --> 01:07:02,352 "Muscles are loose." 1396 01:07:02,436 --> 01:07:04,938 And it all becomes a lark." 1397 01:07:05,022 --> 01:07:07,483 And I love that. 1398 01:07:07,566 --> 01:07:07,983 I love that, too. 1399 01:07:08,066 --> 01:07:10,486 -Wow. -Amazing. 1400 01:07:10,569 --> 01:07:11,487 D'Onofrio: "Paul has a natural grace 1401 01:07:11,570 --> 01:07:14,490 that will put him at ease on Skid Row or death row 1402 01:07:14,573 --> 01:07:15,699 or in the front row in the Vatican. 1403 01:07:15,783 --> 01:07:20,204 I would like to have Paul for President, Secretary of State, 1404 01:07:20,287 --> 01:07:24,166 any public office that is sufficiently in court." 1405 01:07:24,249 --> 01:07:25,918 I was crazy then! 1406 01:07:26,001 --> 01:07:26,710 I am crazy now. 1407 01:07:26,794 --> 01:07:28,003 D'Onofrio: "This is a business 1408 01:07:28,086 --> 01:07:29,463 where others of his accomplishment 1409 01:07:29,546 --> 01:07:31,673 cover themselves 1410 01:07:31,757 --> 01:07:33,509 with the honey of self-importance, 1411 01:07:33,592 --> 01:07:36,845 as though they just come back from the hive. 1412 01:07:36,929 --> 01:07:38,472 But never Paul. 1413 01:07:38,555 --> 01:07:42,392 He's a modest man, a professional man." 1414 01:07:42,476 --> 01:07:46,396 I built bridges and hospitals and roads. 1415 01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:48,649 Letterman: I remember when he would be on the show. 1416 01:07:48,732 --> 01:07:52,361 You would think, "Oh, you know who's on the show today? 1417 01:07:52,444 --> 01:07:55,322 Jesus Christ is coming." 1418 01:07:55,405 --> 01:07:57,407 "Did we send a car to the hotel?" 1419 01:07:57,491 --> 01:08:00,202 "No. He's getting here on his own." 1420 01:08:00,285 --> 01:08:02,162 It was honestly... 1421 01:08:02,246 --> 01:08:03,872 The renewing of the vows. 1422 01:08:03,956 --> 01:08:07,793 What prompted that and what was that ceremony like? 1423 01:08:07,876 --> 01:08:09,545 Nell: I don't know why they did it. 1424 01:08:09,628 --> 01:08:12,631 They were the first people I ever heard of doing that. 1425 01:08:12,714 --> 01:08:16,134 I'd never known anybody renew their vows. 1426 01:08:16,218 --> 01:08:17,553 Clooney: "Happiness in marriage 1427 01:08:17,636 --> 01:08:20,347 is not something that just happens. 1428 01:08:20,430 --> 01:08:22,099 A good marriage must be created." 1429 01:08:22,182 --> 01:08:24,434 Linney: "A good marriage must be created." 1430 01:08:24,518 --> 01:08:26,395 -"It is standing together." -"It is standing together." 1431 01:08:26,478 --> 01:08:28,063 -"Facing the world." -"Facing the world." 1432 01:08:28,146 --> 01:08:29,731 Linney: "It is not looking for perfection in each other. 1433 01:08:29,815 --> 01:08:33,902 It is cultivating flexibility and a sense of unity." 1434 01:08:33,986 --> 01:08:35,571 Clooney: "Cultivating flexibility, patience... 1435 01:08:35,654 --> 01:08:37,322 Just doing things for each other, 1436 01:08:37,406 --> 01:08:39,700 not in the attitude of duty or sacrifice, 1437 01:08:39,783 --> 01:08:41,243 but in the spirit of joy." 1438 01:08:41,326 --> 01:08:45,247 Linney: "It is having the capacity to forgive and forget. 1439 01:08:45,330 --> 01:08:49,209 It is finding room for the things of the spirit. 1440 01:08:49,293 --> 01:08:50,919 It is a common search." 1441 01:08:51,003 --> 01:08:54,756 Clooney: "It is a common search for the good and the beautiful. 1442 01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:57,259 It is not only marrying the right partner, 1443 01:08:57,342 --> 01:08:58,844 it's being the right partner." 1444 01:08:58,927 --> 01:09:01,263 Linney: "It is being the right partner." 1445 01:09:01,346 --> 01:09:04,600 Allen: "The renewal vows was the sweetest thing. 1446 01:09:04,683 --> 01:09:05,350 I wept. 1447 01:09:05,434 --> 01:09:09,438 I made a complete fool of myself. 1448 01:09:09,521 --> 01:09:14,234 But...they just looked so happy. 1449 01:09:14,318 --> 01:09:17,487 They both did, really." 1450 01:09:17,571 --> 01:09:19,448 McCarthy: "All the girls got up and Joanne 1451 01:09:19,531 --> 01:09:21,033 and they all sang to him. 1452 01:09:21,116 --> 01:09:22,451 It couldn't have been more moving or more charming. 1453 01:09:22,534 --> 01:09:26,914 And I was sitting there next to Paul and Joanne started to sing, 1454 01:09:26,997 --> 01:09:30,709 and I don't have to tell you what his face is like about her. 1455 01:09:30,792 --> 01:09:36,256 And -- and he had his napkin and he leaned forward like this, 1456 01:09:36,340 --> 01:09:36,924 watching her. 1457 01:09:37,007 --> 01:09:39,468 And when it all got too much, 1458 01:09:39,551 --> 01:09:44,139 he just sat back and draped a napkin over his head. 1459 01:09:44,222 --> 01:09:46,099 That's Paul, isn't it?" 1460 01:09:48,018 --> 01:09:50,646 Walter: What is in this box once belonged to my mother. 1461 01:09:50,729 --> 01:09:53,607 In time, you'll give it to your daughter. 1462 01:09:53,690 --> 01:09:55,484 ♪♪ 1463 01:09:55,567 --> 01:09:58,779 Oh. 1464 01:09:58,862 --> 01:10:01,531 It's gorgeous. 1465 01:10:03,408 --> 01:10:05,911 Oh. 1466 01:10:05,994 --> 01:10:08,330 Thank you. 1467 01:10:08,413 --> 01:10:09,665 Thank you. 1468 01:10:09,748 --> 01:10:10,832 Clea: I was getting married, 1469 01:10:10,916 --> 01:10:14,336 and I remember having a conversation with my parents. 1470 01:10:14,419 --> 01:10:20,175 I remember them looking at me and, you know, saying 1471 01:10:20,258 --> 01:10:23,637 basically, like, "When the relationship is right, 1472 01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:26,181 there will be a time where you wake up in the morning one day 1473 01:10:26,264 --> 01:10:29,685 and you look at this person sleeping next to you 1474 01:10:29,768 --> 01:10:32,896 and you realize that you are committed, no matter what. 1475 01:10:32,980 --> 01:10:35,565 Like, this is your person." 1476 01:10:35,649 --> 01:10:41,530 ♪♪ 1477 01:10:41,613 --> 01:10:43,782 It doesn't mean that you won't get angry, 1478 01:10:43,865 --> 01:10:45,784 that you won't storm off, that you won't -- 1479 01:10:45,867 --> 01:10:49,705 But ultimately you're in it for the long haul and, you know, 1480 01:10:49,788 --> 01:10:53,750 you just have to be willing to work really hard at it. 1481 01:10:58,088 --> 01:11:01,508 And there are gonna be times when it's just frickin' awful. 1482 01:11:01,591 --> 01:11:05,429 But ultimately, it will be your greatest success. 1483 01:11:08,974 --> 01:11:12,602 I mean, that's, like, one of the greatest successes in your life 1484 01:11:12,686 --> 01:11:16,565 to have somebody who goes through life with you 1485 01:11:16,648 --> 01:11:20,569 and understands all your foibles and forgives you 1486 01:11:20,652 --> 01:11:22,279 and tolerates all of your silliness 1487 01:11:22,362 --> 01:11:27,409 and then takes incredible joy in your successes. 1488 01:11:27,492 --> 01:11:34,750 ♪♪ 1489 01:11:34,833 --> 01:11:38,211 ♪♪ 1490 01:11:38,295 --> 01:11:40,422 Poltermann: "Do you love Paul now for the same reasons 1491 01:11:40,505 --> 01:11:43,008 that you did when you first met him?" 1492 01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:48,305 Linney: "Oh, I don't think I loved him. 1493 01:11:48,388 --> 01:11:52,476 I don't think I knew what that word meant. 1494 01:11:52,559 --> 01:11:56,188 I was enamored of him. I was in lust with him. 1495 01:11:56,271 --> 01:11:58,607 Loved him? 1496 01:11:58,690 --> 01:12:00,692 I don't know. 1497 01:12:00,776 --> 01:12:02,986 I don't think I understood the use of that word, 1498 01:12:03,070 --> 01:12:05,781 nor did he. 1499 01:12:05,864 --> 01:12:11,453 I think we saw two entirely different images of each other. 1500 01:12:11,536 --> 01:12:13,455 He thought I was very much in control, 1501 01:12:13,538 --> 01:12:15,540 crazed but creative and all those things, 1502 01:12:15,624 --> 01:12:17,793 none of which I felt about myself. 1503 01:12:17,876 --> 01:12:21,963 And I thought of him as being heroic, smart, 1504 01:12:22,047 --> 01:12:23,882 intelligent and handsome. 1505 01:12:23,965 --> 01:12:26,343 None of which he thought about himself." 1506 01:12:26,426 --> 01:12:33,350 ♪♪ 1507 01:12:33,433 --> 01:12:40,148 ♪♪ 1508 01:12:40,232 --> 01:12:43,568 Allen: "This Christmas, he said, 'You know, 1509 01:12:43,652 --> 01:12:46,571 I wish I had been a better...' 1510 01:12:46,655 --> 01:12:48,698 And then he stopped." 1511 01:12:50,659 --> 01:12:52,536 "He was putting the lights on the tree. 1512 01:12:52,619 --> 01:12:56,206 And I said, 'Paul, you were a good father. 1513 01:12:56,289 --> 01:12:59,626 We each do what we think is best.'" 1514 01:12:59,709 --> 01:13:04,923 ♪♪ 1515 01:13:05,006 --> 01:13:08,927 "He seemed so relaxed and dear this Christmas. 1516 01:13:09,010 --> 01:13:13,181 Easy to communicate with, to talk to. 1517 01:13:13,265 --> 01:13:16,768 He seemed happy, very happy. 1518 01:13:16,852 --> 01:13:18,019 And there was a vulnerability there 1519 01:13:18,103 --> 01:13:21,356 that I had never seen before. 1520 01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:29,865 ♪♪ 1521 01:13:29,948 --> 01:13:38,832 ♪♪ 1522 01:13:38,915 --> 01:13:47,382 ♪♪ 1523 01:13:47,465 --> 01:13:50,552 ♪♪ 1524 01:13:50,635 --> 01:13:52,679 [ Engine starts ] 1525 01:13:52,762 --> 01:14:01,938 ♪♪ 1526 01:14:02,022 --> 01:14:04,399 ♪♪ 1527 01:14:04,482 --> 01:14:05,692 [ Engine sputtering ] 1528 01:14:05,775 --> 01:14:11,907 ♪♪ 1529 01:14:11,990 --> 01:14:16,077 ♪♪ 1530 01:14:16,161 --> 01:14:21,082 ♪ I may not always love you ♪ 1531 01:14:21,166 --> 01:14:25,462 ♪ But long as there are stars above you ♪ 1532 01:14:25,545 --> 01:14:29,591 ♪ You never need to doubt it ♪ 1533 01:14:29,674 --> 01:14:34,012 ♪ I'll make you so sure about it ♪ 1534 01:14:34,095 --> 01:14:39,142 ♪ God only knows what I'd be without you ♪ 1535 01:14:39,226 --> 01:14:41,603 Yoo-hoo! Hello! 1536 01:14:42,312 --> 01:14:46,399 Ha. Anybody there? Yoo-hoo! 1537 01:14:46,483 --> 01:14:50,195 Ethan: Tennessee Williams once said, 1538 01:14:50,278 --> 01:14:52,906 "The world is violent and mercurial. 1539 01:14:52,989 --> 01:14:55,659 It will have its way with you. 1540 01:14:55,742 --> 01:14:57,244 We are saved only by love. 1541 01:14:57,327 --> 01:15:00,455 Being a parent, being a friend." 1542 01:15:00,539 --> 01:15:05,627 ♪ God only know what I'd be without you ♪ 1543 01:15:05,710 --> 01:15:09,297 ♪♪ 1544 01:15:09,381 --> 01:15:12,467 Ethan: We live in a perpetually burning building. 1545 01:15:12,550 --> 01:15:14,177 Make it two dozen. 1546 01:15:14,261 --> 01:15:18,723 And what we must save from it all the time is love. 1547 01:15:18,807 --> 01:15:22,978 ♪ Ba-ba-ba ba-ba ba-ba-ba-ba ♪ 1548 01:15:23,061 --> 01:15:29,109 ♪ Ba-ba-ba ba-ba ba-ba-ba-ba ♪ 1549 01:15:29,192 --> 01:15:34,114 ♪ God only know what I'd be without you ♪ 1550 01:15:34,197 --> 01:15:35,991 Ethan: I was told when Paul went to the hospital 1551 01:15:36,074 --> 01:15:38,910 for the last time, 1552 01:15:38,994 --> 01:15:41,746 he secretly went up into the attic 1553 01:15:41,830 --> 01:15:46,543 and found a box of stockings, Christmas stockings, 1554 01:15:46,626 --> 01:15:49,629 and, um, he slipped his old compass 1555 01:15:49,713 --> 01:15:52,048 inside Joanne's stocking. 1556 01:15:52,132 --> 01:15:56,803 So that her first Christmas without him, 1557 01:15:56,886 --> 01:15:59,723 she would have a present. 1558 01:16:02,017 --> 01:16:05,562 ♪ God only knows what I'd be without you ♪ 1559 01:16:05,645 --> 01:16:07,230 Hello? 1560 01:16:07,314 --> 01:16:10,483 ♪ God only knows what I'd be without you ♪ 1561 01:16:10,567 --> 01:16:11,943 Anybody there? 1562 01:16:12,027 --> 01:16:16,072 ♪ God only knows what I'd be without you ♪ 1563 01:16:16,156 --> 01:16:20,368 ♪ God only knows what I'd be without you ♪ 1564 01:16:20,452 --> 01:16:24,914 ♪ God only knows what I'd be without you ♪ 1565 01:16:24,998 --> 01:16:29,044 ♪ God only knows what I'd be without you ♪ 1566 01:16:29,127 --> 01:16:33,673 ♪ God only knows what I'd be without you ♪ 1567 01:16:33,757 --> 01:16:35,050 ♪ God only knows ♪ 1568 01:16:35,133 --> 01:16:38,053 ♪ God only knows ♪ 1569 01:16:38,136 --> 01:16:39,471 Thank you. 1570 01:16:39,554 --> 01:16:40,764 [ Laughs ] 1571 01:17:03,203 --> 01:17:08,625 ♪ Happy Bobby Rose ♪ 1572 01:17:08,708 --> 01:17:11,461 ♪♪ 1573 01:17:11,544 --> 01:17:18,760 ♪ Is drinking off for yesterday ♪ 1574 01:17:19,677 --> 01:17:27,769 ♪ Are tomorrow's hours on its way? ♪ 1575 01:17:27,852 --> 01:17:29,979 ♪ I'll always love you ♪ 1576 01:17:30,063 --> 01:17:36,027 ♪♪ 1577 01:17:36,111 --> 01:17:39,489 ♪ I'll always love you ♪ 1578 01:17:39,572 --> 01:17:44,953 ♪♪ 1579 01:17:45,036 --> 01:17:48,123 ♪ I'll always love you ♪ 1580 01:17:48,206 --> 01:17:54,796 ♪♪ 1581 01:17:54,879 --> 01:18:01,928 ♪ It's getting hard to be realistic ♪ 1582 01:18:03,388 --> 01:18:10,895 ♪ With memories so sharp and nostalgic ♪ 1583 01:18:10,979 --> 01:18:13,982 ♪ I'll always love you ♪ 1584 01:18:16,067 --> 01:18:19,320 ♪ While I can ♪ 1585 01:18:19,404 --> 01:18:22,407 ♪ I'll always love you ♪ 1586 01:18:24,576 --> 01:18:28,163 ♪ In our time ♪ 1587 01:18:28,246 --> 01:18:31,291 ♪ I'll always love you ♪ 1588 01:18:32,917 --> 01:18:36,921 ♪ Oh, hooo ♪ 1589 01:18:37,005 --> 01:18:39,674 ♪ I'll always love you ♪ 1590 01:18:39,757 --> 01:18:45,180 ♪♪ 1591 01:18:45,263 --> 01:18:50,518 ♪♪ 1592 01:18:50,602 --> 01:18:59,527 ♪ Today is a day that we're starting again ♪ 1593 01:18:59,611 --> 01:19:02,363 ♪ I try to be good ♪ 1594 01:19:02,447 --> 01:19:07,619 ♪ Oh, whatever that may be ♪ 1595 01:19:07,702 --> 01:19:12,415 ♪ It's always the same ♪ 1596 01:19:13,208 --> 01:19:16,377 ♪ In our time ♪ 1597 01:19:16,461 --> 01:19:22,050 ♪ I'll always love you ♪ 1598 01:19:22,133 --> 01:19:26,012 ♪ While I can ♪ 1599 01:19:26,095 --> 01:19:29,474 ♪ I'll always love you ♪ 1600 01:19:30,767 --> 01:19:34,729 ♪ Oh, hooo ♪ 1601 01:19:34,812 --> 01:19:37,732 ♪ I'll always love you ♪ 1602 01:19:42,820 --> 01:19:46,241 ♪ I'll always love you ♪ 1603 01:19:46,324 --> 01:19:54,707 ♪♪ 1604 01:19:54,791 --> 01:20:03,299 ♪♪ 1605 01:20:03,383 --> 01:20:09,472 ♪♪ 1606 01:20:09,556 --> 01:20:13,851 ♪♪