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Who am I?
Why am I here?!
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[narrator] A fixture on
Saturday Night Live
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in the early 90s,
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Phil Hartman looked like
the neighbour next door.
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He was like a
basic dude...
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not someone that you
would look at and think
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that would be
a funny guy.
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That every man personality
was a canvas for one of the
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most dynamic comedic
actors of his time.
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You don't scare me.
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I got chunks of guys
like you in my stool.
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[Laughing]
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He was one of the great
character actors
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of our generation.
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Filthy animals.
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He's not Phil
playing a character,
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he's the character.
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Oh too bad, you lose,
nothin' for you.
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But for a moment
where you're like,
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"Wow,
this guy had me.
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I actually believed him."
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And that's where he was
set apart as a genius.
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-Damn!
-[Laughing]
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Okay, let's get it
over with.
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Phil had the ability
to make any line funny.
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Your Honour, I don't know
spit about lawyering.
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[Laughing]
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If there's a laugh in your
script, Phil will get it.
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And he'll probably dig a couple
of extra ones out that
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you didn't even
know you put in.
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If he's in something,
you just knew
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it was
gonna be good.
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You were in good hands
with Phil Hartman.
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What is your definition
of sex, Mr. President?
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It's the same as
the Bible's, Jay.
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[Laughing]
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Before long, Phil's talent
gets him all over TV.
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Oh, hi,
I'm Troy McClure.
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Hey buddy, how's it
going out there?
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With a swift kick to
the gluteus assimus.
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[Laughing]
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But behind his success,
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Phil leads a tumultuous
private life.
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She would do
anything to try to
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evoke a reaction
out of Phil.
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She would drink,
do drugs.
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There would be a lot
of serious fights.
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Phil's success was hard for
her to deal with sometimes.
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He used to joke
about it. You know,
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he was Ricky Ricardo
and she was Lucy.
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Always trying to
get in on his stuff.
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At the height of his fame,
it all goes terribly wrong.
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One of TV's favourite
funny men is dead.
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How did one of America's
most beloved and
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down to earth comics meet
such a tragic end?
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I was stunned.
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A million things went
through my mind...
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not that.
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[Overlapping voices]
Ladies and gentlemen!
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You are about to
be entertained!
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Getting the laugh is
the greatest addiction.
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They want more of it,
they want more of it.
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She was getting death threats.
It [beep] with your head!
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He's out of his skull!
That's what took her down.
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This is a crazy story.
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♪
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♪
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Phil was born in Canada,
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the middle child of a
lot of children.
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Good Catholic family,
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and they didn't
have any money.
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The mother was a
stay-at-home mom and
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the dad was
a sales guy.
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As the fourth of
eight children,
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young Phil often
felt neglected.
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He always felt like
he was sort of
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torn from the breast,
literally...
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because there was another
sibling right behind.
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It was like a conveyor
belt of babies,
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so he always felt that he
didn't get the kind of
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love and attention
he needed.
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Phil's older sister,
Sarah Jane,
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was born with a rare
neurological disease
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requiring constant care.
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The mother,
being a loving mother,
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kept her daughter at home
as long as possible, but,
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I don't use the word
lightly, subjected...
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her other children to,
really, a lot of difficulty.
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The house was filled
with vomit, and shit,
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and he couldn't
have friends over,
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and all the attention
was going to that issue.
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At a certain point,
Sarah Jane's care just
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got to be too intense for
the mother, for the family,
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and she was sent to
an institution to
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live out the
rest of her life.
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The parents felt guilty
for not being able to do
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everything that you
want to do for a child,
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and perhaps the kids
felt that guilt as well.
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In the late 1950s,
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Phil's dad gets a job in
the United States.
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The family ultimately
settles in California,
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leaving Sarah Jane
behind in Canada.
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When Phil moved to
Southern California,
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he became a surfer.
He was surfing every day.
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Phil was born Canadian,
but he was a beach guy.
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He was a surfer.
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He was through and
through Californian.
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In high school, Phil starts
doing impersonations and
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quickly learns just
how funny he can be.
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I was class clown in
my graduating class.
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Were you?
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Westchester High School
in West LA.
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Is class clown something
you're elected to?
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It was an elected
position, yes.
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So Phil created a life for
himself outside the family.
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He was hilarious, and
brilliant, and funny,
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and sporty, and cute,
and energetic,
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and all those great things
that is very, very attractive.
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He could get all the
attention he wanted.
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He could always
do impressions.
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My name is Steven Small.
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Phil Hartman was one of my
best friends in my life.
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Phil could go from a very
serious conversation
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and then all of a sudden
just take off and
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do an impersonation
that was so right on.
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One night he
was John Wayne
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having sexual relations
with Richard Nixon,
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and he was doing
both voices.
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I had to leave the table
because I couldn't breathe.
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That's...
That was Phil.
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Despite his charm and talent,
after high school,
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Phil drifts in and out of
college and various jobs.
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By age 24,
he's already been
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married and
divorced once.
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Their marriage did not
work because
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Phil wouldn't
communicate with her.
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As soon as they
got married,
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he seemed to lose
interest in her.
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After the divorce,
Phil reinvents himself
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as a graphic designer.
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He was extremely talented
in terms of graphic arts.
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He was working at
an ad agency.
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He was an illustrator for
album covers and
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he was doing people's
business cards
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and that sort of thing.
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The album covers that he
did, the Poco, America,
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there's that horse album.
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He did a group called
The Firesign Theatre,
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and those are just
amazing album covers.
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So as a fine artist,
Phil could've worked and
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had a great
living doing that.
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While Phil's design
career takes off,
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he doesn't realize that a
night of improv is
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about to change his life.
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For Phil Hartman,
the Groundlings were
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the beginning
of everything.
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[News report]
For the Groundlings,
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LA's largest
comedy troupe,
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learning on your feet is
what improv is all about.
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The Groundlings was,
and continues to be,
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the premier
improvisational school and
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theatre in Hollywood.
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My name is Tracy Newman.
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We started it
actually in 1972,
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and as time went on,
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it sort of became the
farm company for SNL,
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Saturday Night Live.
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In 1975 it was
my 33rd birthday,
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and we went to
the Groundlings.
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Phil loved going to the
Groundlings as someone
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in the audience, and that
day he was so inspired,
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never having done
improv comedy,
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he got out of
the audience,
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went on stage and
started improvising.
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He got on stage to
entertain his friends,
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because it was a party.
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He liked making
people laugh.
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He particularly liked making
the girls laugh, the ladies...
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you know, and he
definitely made me laugh.
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We were backstage getting
ready to go on and
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we heard laughter coming
from the audience and
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we thought,
"What's going on"?
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So we all sort of moved out
and watched from the back,
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and it was Phil on stage
doing impressions.
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And he was,
of course, incredible.
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He and Paul Reubens
got into a riff.
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Paul would say one thing
and then Phil answered.
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It went back and forth, and
everyone was cracking up.
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Now they could have
called the cops.
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Instead they made him
a part of the show,
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so he started taking classes
and he made it quickly
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into the main troupe.
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[Applauding]
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[Speaking German]
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Phil's new peers at the
Groundlings are
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blown away by
his talent.
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It's hard for me to really
believe that Phil Hartman
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had never been
on stage before.
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In improv, commitment is
one of the number one rules,
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and he just had that.
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Because he
wasn't scared.
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Hi, my name's...
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[Laughing]
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Improvisation actually gave
Phil the opportunity to be
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all the characters that he
could possibly imagine and
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he could bring them
fully to life,
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and that was
his huge talent.
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I mean, he was really a
genius at that.
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Phil becomes so popular
that he takes over the show.
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There were complaints
back then that
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he was on
stage too much.
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Then we would say,
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"Well, what should
we take him out of"?
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We didn't know how to make
him sparse in the show.
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He was the show.
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Between his
design work and
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growing success with
the Groundlings,
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Phil is finally making
the most of his talent.
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He obviously created an
entire new life for himself.
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He was having a great time.
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He was living at the beach.
He was happy.
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I can say that without
any reservations,
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that was him at
his happiest.
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Along with that
happiness though,
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comes a fear that it
could all get taken away.
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I was at Phil's house one day,
just the two of us,
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and he said, "Hey, I want
to show you my toys."
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And he comes out with
three handguns and
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he puts them
on the table.
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And I was like,
"What"?
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I never thought
guns were toys.
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I was very shocked.
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Some people close to Phil
worry that his fear
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could lead down
a slippery slope
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to something more sinister.
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He told me that he was afraid
of a home invasion and
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wanted to be able
to defend himself.
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Unfortunately,
that's just a fantasy.
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And I said,
"You're out of your mind.
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I know you love guns,
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you're fascinated by
them as machines."
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I was very worried about Phil,
because I know that
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he's just going to brush
off the red flags.
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♪
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It was 1956,
Pee-Wee.
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I just won the
World Series pitching for
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the New York Yankees.
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At the Groundlings,
Phil develops
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a friendship with
Paul Reubens,
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and soon the two start
working together.
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Around 1980, I had the
idea of doing a late night
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television show that
looked like a kids show,
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but would be
very subversive.
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So one day at my house,
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Phil came over with Pee-Wee,
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and what we created was
'The Pee-Wee Herman Show',
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which involved many actors
from the Groundlings.
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Phil said, "I'm gonna
be in the cast too.
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I'm gonna play a character
called 'Captain Carl'."
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Captain Carl!
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Permission to come
aboard, Pee-Wee.
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You have to
know the password.
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-Spaghetti.
-Nope.
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-Sardine.
-Nope.
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Paul was this hopeful
10-year-old, really,
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if you think about
that character...
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he was brilliant
by himself.
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Now then to a guy like
that you add Phil Hartman,
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and Lynne Stewart,
and Edie McClurg and
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John Paragon,
and you've got gold.
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[Cheering]
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We ran it at the Grounding
Theatre in the midnight hour,
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and our last show there
was taped for HBO,
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and that's the show that you
could still see on TV now.
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-Can I light it or ya?
-No.
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-Why?
-Because.
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-Because why?
-Because I said so.
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-Why'd you say so?
-Because.
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-Because why?
-Just because no!
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[Laughing]
283
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I'm Lisa Jarvis.
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I'm Phil Hartman's
second wife.
285
00:11:04,789 --> 00:11:06,541
I was 22 when Phil
and I met,
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and he was working on
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The Pee-Wee Herman Show
with Paul Reubens.
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He just pulled me right
into this world of all this
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excitement and it
was marvellous.
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We met at a club in Los
Angeles called 'Madam Wongs'.
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I was just dancing and
running around on the
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dance floor, and he came
up to me and he said,
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"Can I have this dance"?
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He was a really
good dancer and
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just fun and lively
and creative.
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That was the real Phil.
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I think I fell in love with
the real Phil at that point.
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We moved in together pretty
quickly and were married
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a little while afterward.
But when we were at home,
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I'd get up in the morning
and he would be in
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some insane costume.
302
00:11:42,410 --> 00:11:44,329
He would just
be entertaining,
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not in a way that he was
trying to make you laugh,
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but you couldn't
help laughing at him.
305
00:11:49,083 --> 00:11:51,002
But as with his
first marriage,
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Phil quickly
loses interest.
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It just sort of fell apart
as soon as we got married.
308
00:11:55,882 --> 00:11:58,176
Something odd happened
where he went into his shell.
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He would spend a lot of time
in his room writing for the
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Groundlings, drawing,
doing voice over,
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really involved
in his career.
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And, you know, here I am
a 22-year-old, you know,
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pistol, thinking I was gonna
have this really lively,
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really fun, really fabulous
life that I'd married...
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and he disappeared.
316
00:12:16,194 --> 00:12:19,113
-No women!
-No women!
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-Women!
-Women!
318
00:12:20,406 --> 00:12:22,325
-Dames.
-Dames.
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-Women.
-Women...
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-Women.
-Women.
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Phil's character of
Captain Carl
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actually was his
way of living,
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especially as it pertained
to the women in his life.
324
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He didn't want to have
confrontations and
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he didn't want to have
to compete with
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a female or wife.
327
00:12:44,639 --> 00:12:47,767
As Phil shuts down,
so does his marriage.
328
00:12:47,767 --> 00:12:51,145
In 1985, he and
Lisa get divorced.
329
00:12:51,145 --> 00:12:53,898
I remember once we were
in the middle of a major
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emotional scene, it was
nearing the end of
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our relationship, I was
weeping and begging him
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for something, and he just
turned around and said,
333
00:13:03,825 --> 00:13:05,743
"I can't do this.
I'm not doing this.
334
00:13:05,743 --> 00:13:07,120
I'm going to bed."
335
00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:08,579
This is probably the
8th or 10th time,
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00:13:08,579 --> 00:13:10,790
or 20th time
he'd done that to me.
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00:13:10,790 --> 00:13:14,043
And he went in the bedroom
and just got in bed and
338
00:13:14,043 --> 00:13:15,545
absolutely blacked out.
339
00:13:15,545 --> 00:13:17,839
He had this ability to
just completely and
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00:13:17,839 --> 00:13:20,049
utterly disappear in
the middle of the
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00:13:20,049 --> 00:13:23,594
most extreme
emotional experiences.
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00:13:23,594 --> 00:13:25,305
It was enough,
it was done.
343
00:13:25,305 --> 00:13:28,307
I was over it,
I just was done.
344
00:13:28,307 --> 00:13:30,810
While Phil's personal
life falls apart...
345
00:13:30,810 --> 00:13:33,646
[Yelling]
Geronimo!
346
00:13:33,646 --> 00:13:34,856
The Pee-Wee
Herman Show gets
347
00:13:34,856 --> 00:13:38,359
turned into a major
motion picture.
348
00:13:38,359 --> 00:13:41,362
Despite having no prior
screenwriting experience...
349
00:13:41,362 --> 00:13:43,614
Pee-Wee Herman is
Pee-Wee Herman.
350
00:13:43,614 --> 00:13:45,116
Hello!
[Laughing]
351
00:13:45,116 --> 00:13:48,119
Phil co-writes
Pee-Wee's Big Adventure.
352
00:13:48,119 --> 00:13:49,787
I didn't really care
about being famous,
353
00:13:49,787 --> 00:13:52,415
I just wanted to make a
living doing something
354
00:13:52,415 --> 00:13:55,251
that was fun, and I
really love writing.
355
00:13:55,251 --> 00:13:57,712
But when Pee-Wee Herman's
Show was remade for
356
00:13:57,712 --> 00:14:00,423
Saturday morning television
as 'Pee-Wee's Playhouse'...
357
00:14:00,423 --> 00:14:01,841
Goodbye, everybody!
358
00:14:01,841 --> 00:14:03,634
Phil is no longer involved.
359
00:14:03,634 --> 00:14:05,011
You're at odds
with him, aren't you?
360
00:14:05,011 --> 00:14:06,804
-Yeah.
-Why?
361
00:14:06,804 --> 00:14:09,390
Because you felt you helped
develop the Pee-Wee Playhouse
362
00:14:09,390 --> 00:14:11,350
and you never received
credit or money for it.
363
00:14:11,350 --> 00:14:15,229
We had a contract that said
that we get 3% of
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00:14:15,229 --> 00:14:16,731
whatever happens
with this show.
365
00:14:16,731 --> 00:14:17,648
Right.
366
00:14:17,648 --> 00:14:18,900
And then I went on
and I co-wrote
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00:14:18,900 --> 00:14:20,568
Pee-Wee's Big Adventure
with Paul,
368
00:14:20,568 --> 00:14:22,153
and I worked
with him on that.
369
00:14:22,153 --> 00:14:23,613
-A huge movie.
-Yeah.
370
00:14:23,613 --> 00:14:26,699
And then he decided to do the
TV show and all of us were...
371
00:14:26,699 --> 00:14:27,909
-Out.
-Out.
372
00:14:27,909 --> 00:14:28,951
You called him
probably and said,
373
00:14:28,951 --> 00:14:30,119
"Hey Pee-Wee,
what's the deal?
374
00:14:30,119 --> 00:14:31,454
Paul, what's the deal"?
375
00:14:31,454 --> 00:14:33,372
Well, in truth, I didn't.
376
00:14:33,372 --> 00:14:34,916
-Argh!
-Have a nice day!
377
00:14:34,916 --> 00:14:38,252
Phil never really stood up
for himself against Pee-Wee,
378
00:14:38,252 --> 00:14:40,838
even though he knew
he was being ripped off,
379
00:14:40,838 --> 00:14:45,259
he didn't want to
confront anybody.
380
00:14:45,259 --> 00:14:47,345
Later that year,
Phil's friend and
381
00:14:47,345 --> 00:14:50,306
longtime Groundlings
collaborator, Jon Lovitz,
382
00:14:50,306 --> 00:14:52,809
gets him a career
changing opportunity...
383
00:14:52,809 --> 00:14:55,645
an audition for
Saturday Night Live.
384
00:14:55,645 --> 00:14:58,815
Just some characters
and different things.
385
00:14:58,815 --> 00:15:00,942
I won't take a
lot of your time.
386
00:15:00,942 --> 00:15:02,735
What happens next
will permanently
387
00:15:02,735 --> 00:15:04,904
change the course
of Phil's life.
388
00:15:04,904 --> 00:15:06,364
Your contract
isn't being renewed,
389
00:15:06,364 --> 00:15:07,949
the studio is
letting you go.
390
00:15:07,949 --> 00:15:09,158
Level with me.
391
00:15:09,158 --> 00:15:11,119
If you're unhappy with
my work, tell me now.
392
00:15:11,119 --> 00:15:12,453
Alright, everyone
says you're the
393
00:15:12,453 --> 00:15:13,788
worst doctor in town.
394
00:15:13,788 --> 00:15:14,997
Don't leave me
hanging by a thread.
395
00:15:14,997 --> 00:15:16,165
If you're unhappy
with my performance,
396
00:15:16,165 --> 00:15:17,375
just give it
to me straight.
397
00:15:17,375 --> 00:15:18,835
Alright, you're through,
do you hear me? Through!
398
00:15:18,835 --> 00:15:20,294
You'll never work in
this town again.
399
00:15:20,294 --> 00:15:21,587
Your life is finished.
400
00:15:21,587 --> 00:15:23,256
What's the word
on the street?
401
00:15:23,256 --> 00:15:25,967
[Laughing]
402
00:15:25,967 --> 00:15:28,803
In 1986, Phil stars
in his first
403
00:15:28,803 --> 00:15:31,305
Saturday Night Live sketch.
404
00:15:31,305 --> 00:15:33,516
So long, sucker.
405
00:15:33,516 --> 00:15:38,479
See you sometime
in late January.
406
00:15:38,479 --> 00:15:40,898
As an actor working with him,
you felt at ease watching.
407
00:15:40,898 --> 00:15:42,775
You weren't like, is something
bizarre gonna happen?
408
00:15:42,775 --> 00:15:46,612
It was just very easy
and fun watching.
409
00:15:46,612 --> 00:15:49,198
She's disqualified!
410
00:15:49,198 --> 00:15:51,033
Oh, boy.
411
00:15:51,033 --> 00:15:53,911
The previous season of
SNL had seen poor ratings.
412
00:15:53,911 --> 00:15:56,706
Phil's first episode
kicks off with Madonna
413
00:15:56,706 --> 00:15:59,458
poking fun at the
show's problems.
414
00:15:59,458 --> 00:16:03,379
It was all a dream,
a horrible, horrible dream.
415
00:16:03,379 --> 00:16:05,089
[Laughing]
[Clapping]
416
00:16:05,089 --> 00:16:06,382
Don't leave me
hanging by a thread.
417
00:16:06,382 --> 00:16:08,217
Let me know
where I stand!
418
00:16:08,217 --> 00:16:10,845
In his first season,
Phil's brilliance helps
419
00:16:10,845 --> 00:16:13,890
carry the struggling show
back from the brink.
420
00:16:13,890 --> 00:16:15,558
I believe the first
breakthrough
421
00:16:15,558 --> 00:16:18,769
in that era was Jon,
and then Phil and Dana,
422
00:16:18,769 --> 00:16:20,771
and they definitely
turned it into
423
00:16:20,771 --> 00:16:22,148
something that was much
more popular than
424
00:16:22,148 --> 00:16:24,025
what immediately
proceeded it.
425
00:16:24,025 --> 00:16:28,362
-Women.
-[Laughing]
426
00:16:28,362 --> 00:16:33,034
Are exploited in
relationships because
427
00:16:33,034 --> 00:16:36,621
there's a lot of men out
there who lie to them,
428
00:16:36,621 --> 00:16:40,708
who cheat on them,
who live off them,
429
00:16:40,708 --> 00:16:44,003
and then when they're
done using 'em,
430
00:16:44,003 --> 00:16:46,881
throw 'em out like
last night's garbage.
431
00:16:46,881 --> 00:16:49,008
[Applauding]
432
00:16:49,008 --> 00:16:50,760
In the same year,
Phil goes on a
433
00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,970
blind date with
Brynn Omdahl.
434
00:16:52,970 --> 00:16:54,847
It's love at first sight.
435
00:16:54,847 --> 00:16:58,017
I had heard about her because
Phil was telling myself and
436
00:16:58,017 --> 00:17:00,394
other friends,
"She's just beautiful."
437
00:17:00,394 --> 00:17:03,147
She was a former
bikini model.
438
00:17:03,147 --> 00:17:05,816
She's unbelievably
gorgeous,
439
00:17:05,816 --> 00:17:08,069
she's just a goddess.
440
00:17:08,069 --> 00:17:11,614
A year later they get married
and soon have two kids.
441
00:17:11,614 --> 00:17:14,575
I met Brynn and would see
her every Saturday night,
442
00:17:14,575 --> 00:17:16,327
and his kids would come,
and they would have dinner,
443
00:17:16,327 --> 00:17:18,246
and it was like, well,
here are all these lunatics,
444
00:17:18,246 --> 00:17:20,581
all of us eating,
and there's Phil having,
445
00:17:20,581 --> 00:17:21,916
you know, his wife and
his children having
446
00:17:21,916 --> 00:17:23,167
this beautiful
dinner together.
447
00:17:23,167 --> 00:17:26,712
And it was really nice,
very normalizing.
448
00:17:26,712 --> 00:17:28,673
As Phil grows
his own family,
449
00:17:28,673 --> 00:17:31,133
he also becomes a
household name.
450
00:17:31,133 --> 00:17:33,886
You enjoying your
middle class tax cut?
451
00:17:33,886 --> 00:17:36,639
[Laughing]
452
00:17:36,639 --> 00:17:39,058
He did very broad,
over-the-top versions.
453
00:17:39,058 --> 00:17:40,977
His Frank Sinatra,
for example.
454
00:17:40,977 --> 00:17:42,561
Okay, next issue.
455
00:17:42,561 --> 00:17:46,565
Rita Hayworth or Ava Gardner,
who would you rather nail?
456
00:17:46,565 --> 00:17:49,193
I disqualify myself
'cause I've done 'em both.
457
00:17:49,193 --> 00:17:50,987
I love when he
played Reagan.
458
00:17:50,987 --> 00:17:52,989
Don't make me
have to kill you.
459
00:17:52,989 --> 00:17:54,699
[Laughing]
460
00:17:54,699 --> 00:17:57,910
Ed McMahon, because he
just did it so brilliantly.
461
00:17:57,910 --> 00:18:00,371
This is our final show
and Ed is drunk.
462
00:18:00,371 --> 00:18:02,206
[Laughing]
463
00:18:02,206 --> 00:18:07,128
You are correct,
sir, yes!
464
00:18:07,128 --> 00:18:10,214
Maybe Bill Clinton was the
game changer for him at SNL.
465
00:18:10,214 --> 00:18:12,300
Well, I just want to mingle
with the American people.
466
00:18:12,300 --> 00:18:13,551
Talk with some real folks,
467
00:18:13,551 --> 00:18:15,761
maybe get a Diet Coke
or somethin'.
468
00:18:15,761 --> 00:18:19,265
Fine, but please don't
tell Mrs. Clinton.
469
00:18:19,265 --> 00:18:21,726
Jim, let me tell
you something.
470
00:18:21,726 --> 00:18:23,519
There's gonna be a
whole bunch of things
471
00:18:23,519 --> 00:18:25,688
we don't tell Mrs. Clinton.
472
00:18:25,688 --> 00:18:26,939
[Laughing]
[Clapping]
473
00:18:26,939 --> 00:18:29,191
Fast food is the
least of our worries.
474
00:18:29,191 --> 00:18:30,359
Okay, buddy?
475
00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,528
Oh my god,
it's Bill Clinton!
476
00:18:32,528 --> 00:18:35,740
Phil did not have,
until that point really,
477
00:18:35,740 --> 00:18:38,576
a signature character where
you could always go,
478
00:18:38,576 --> 00:18:40,202
"Oh, that's
Phil Hartman."
479
00:18:40,202 --> 00:18:42,246
But he looked enough
like Bill Clinton,
480
00:18:42,246 --> 00:18:44,206
and his impression
was spot on.
481
00:18:44,206 --> 00:18:48,794
See, right now we're
sending food to Somalia.
482
00:18:48,794 --> 00:18:52,631
But it's not getting to the
people who need it because
483
00:18:52,631 --> 00:18:54,675
it's being intercepted
by warlords.
484
00:18:54,675 --> 00:18:56,260
[Laughing]
485
00:18:56,260 --> 00:18:58,929
[Garbled]
And it's not just us!
486
00:18:58,929 --> 00:19:01,474
It's other countries too.
487
00:19:01,474 --> 00:19:05,102
Like your McNugget,
it's released from
488
00:19:05,102 --> 00:19:09,231
Great Britain to Somalia,
intercepted by warlord.
489
00:19:09,231 --> 00:19:11,734
[Laughing]
[Clapping]
490
00:19:11,734 --> 00:19:13,986
[Dave] Phil quickly became
the writing staff's
491
00:19:13,986 --> 00:19:15,488
favourite mouthpiece.
492
00:19:15,488 --> 00:19:19,200
Aid from Italy,
warlord.
493
00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,869
Because you could hand
anything to Phil and just be
494
00:19:21,869 --> 00:19:24,497
guaranteed that if there's
a laugh in your script,
495
00:19:24,497 --> 00:19:25,831
Phil will get it.
496
00:19:25,831 --> 00:19:28,501
Hakuna Matata, Jay.
497
00:19:28,501 --> 00:19:30,419
You know, and he'll probably
dig a couple of extra ones
498
00:19:30,419 --> 00:19:32,463
out that you didn't
even know you put in.
499
00:19:32,463 --> 00:19:35,508
I prayed to
you all the time.
500
00:19:35,508 --> 00:19:39,428
-I know.
-[Laughing]
501
00:19:39,428 --> 00:19:42,431
That's why I've come
to talk to you.
502
00:19:42,431 --> 00:19:43,641
Phil was the
glue of the show.
503
00:19:43,641 --> 00:19:45,059
He was the one that
you could count on,
504
00:19:45,059 --> 00:19:46,143
that if things fall apart,
505
00:19:46,143 --> 00:19:47,186
he's gonna pull it
back together.
506
00:19:47,186 --> 00:19:49,021
You could get
mixed up or go off,
507
00:19:49,021 --> 00:19:50,898
and Phil would bring
you back around.
508
00:19:50,898 --> 00:19:53,275
I was at a party with
all the SNL people,
509
00:19:53,275 --> 00:19:55,986
and I went up to Lorne
and I said, "Well, so,
510
00:19:55,986 --> 00:19:58,906
how does it feel to have Phil
Hartman in your cast now"?
511
00:19:58,906 --> 00:20:01,992
And he said, "I barely
have to go to work now."
512
00:20:01,992 --> 00:20:04,245
Phil's work on Saturday
Night Live earns him
513
00:20:04,245 --> 00:20:07,039
a primetime Emmy
in 1989.
514
00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:11,085
[Cheering &
applauding]
515
00:20:11,085 --> 00:20:14,547
But his rising stardom leads
to tension in his marriage.
516
00:20:14,547 --> 00:20:17,341
Brynn always had show
business in her mind.
517
00:20:17,341 --> 00:20:20,428
She wanted to be
in show business.
518
00:20:20,428 --> 00:20:22,680
Phil told her,
"Stick with me, baby,
519
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,473
and you'll be famous."
520
00:20:24,473 --> 00:20:28,060
Phil would be embarrassed
because he had to shop stuff
521
00:20:28,060 --> 00:20:30,312
that she had written
with a friend of hers.
522
00:20:30,312 --> 00:20:32,273
I don't think Phil was
that impressed with it,
523
00:20:32,273 --> 00:20:33,983
but she's your wife,
what are you going to say?
524
00:20:33,983 --> 00:20:35,734
She's the mother
of your children.
525
00:20:35,734 --> 00:20:37,903
When the show films a
new opening sequence,
526
00:20:37,903 --> 00:20:42,074
Phil uses his status on SNL
to try and get Brynn a break.
527
00:20:42,074 --> 00:20:44,410
In Phil's opening
credit shot,
528
00:20:44,410 --> 00:20:46,996
he's sitting at a bistro
with what is obviously
529
00:20:46,996 --> 00:20:50,416
a mystery blonde,
and she has this very large,
530
00:20:50,416 --> 00:20:52,626
chandelier-like
set of earrings.
531
00:20:52,626 --> 00:20:55,463
And although she's facing
him and standing still,
532
00:20:55,463 --> 00:20:58,090
her earring is moving,
it's swaying back and forth,
533
00:20:58,090 --> 00:21:00,760
and that's because when they
were trying to shoot that,
534
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,511
whenever they said,
"Phil Hartman,
535
00:21:02,511 --> 00:21:03,721
ladies and gentlemen"!
536
00:21:03,721 --> 00:21:06,265
He would turn and
smile at the camera,
537
00:21:06,265 --> 00:21:09,393
and Brynn apparently would
turn and face the camera also.
538
00:21:09,393 --> 00:21:10,519
And they would say,
539
00:21:10,519 --> 00:21:11,979
"Brynn, that's not what
you're supposed to do.
540
00:21:11,979 --> 00:21:13,314
It's Phil's shot."
541
00:21:13,314 --> 00:21:15,316
So she kept, back and
forth, back and forth,
542
00:21:15,316 --> 00:21:16,817
and so
this earring was going.
543
00:21:16,817 --> 00:21:19,653
So, finally they confused
her enough that she was
544
00:21:19,653 --> 00:21:22,490
looking at him with the back
of her head to the camera.
545
00:21:22,490 --> 00:21:24,825
Phil was facing the camera
and the earring was
546
00:21:24,825 --> 00:21:26,702
still moving and
they went with that.
547
00:21:26,702 --> 00:21:29,163
I think that speaks volumes
about what she wanted
548
00:21:29,163 --> 00:21:31,415
from her relationship
with Phil Hartman.
549
00:21:31,415 --> 00:21:34,543
He told me that it was
her expectation that
550
00:21:34,543 --> 00:21:36,045
her face would be seen.
551
00:21:36,045 --> 00:21:39,215
That was a big issue that
kept coming back up
552
00:21:39,215 --> 00:21:41,383
after he left the show.
553
00:21:41,383 --> 00:21:43,844
While Brynn continues to
take care of the household,
554
00:21:43,844 --> 00:21:47,598
hoping for her big break,
Phil's career is unstoppable.
555
00:21:47,598 --> 00:21:50,768
♪ The Simpsons! ♪
556
00:21:50,768 --> 00:21:52,269
The Simpsons
was new then.
557
00:21:52,269 --> 00:21:54,438
It was a phenomenon.
It was, like, amazing.
558
00:21:54,438 --> 00:21:56,690
So when we were
casting the episode,
559
00:21:56,690 --> 00:21:58,526
Bart gets hit by a car,
there was a part for
560
00:21:58,526 --> 00:22:00,194
the sleazy lawyer,
Lionel Hutz,
561
00:22:00,194 --> 00:22:02,863
and I wanted Phil Hartman
because we loved SNL.
562
00:22:02,863 --> 00:22:04,490
Hutz is the
name Mr. Simpson.
563
00:22:04,490 --> 00:22:06,158
Lionel Hutz,
attorney at law.
564
00:22:06,158 --> 00:22:07,451
Here's my card.
565
00:22:07,451 --> 00:22:09,203
It turns into a sponge
when you put it in water.
566
00:22:09,203 --> 00:22:10,412
Ooh, classy.
567
00:22:10,412 --> 00:22:12,206
If you think about
Phil's voice, you go,
568
00:22:12,206 --> 00:22:13,290
oh, that's perfect.
569
00:22:13,290 --> 00:22:14,875
It's like an old-time
radio voice.
570
00:22:14,875 --> 00:22:16,877
And funny.
571
00:22:16,877 --> 00:22:18,462
When Phil reads
the character,
572
00:22:18,462 --> 00:22:20,256
he doesn't disappoint.
573
00:22:20,256 --> 00:22:22,550
He comes in and he gets
these enormous laughs.
574
00:22:22,550 --> 00:22:24,593
As a writer I'm always
pretty nervous,
575
00:22:24,593 --> 00:22:26,178
and so anytime something
gets a huge laugh,
576
00:22:26,178 --> 00:22:27,638
I'm pleasantly surprised.
577
00:22:27,638 --> 00:22:29,348
I'm sorry,
Mr. Simpson,
578
00:22:29,348 --> 00:22:31,642
but you can't
copyright a drink.
579
00:22:31,642 --> 00:22:32,893
Oh!
580
00:22:32,893 --> 00:22:35,896
Oh this all goes back to the
Frank Wallbanger case of '78.
581
00:22:35,896 --> 00:22:38,023
How about that?
I looked something up.
582
00:22:38,023 --> 00:22:40,192
Phil becomes a
Simpsons regular,
583
00:22:40,192 --> 00:22:42,444
and goes on to voice some
of the show's most
584
00:22:42,444 --> 00:22:46,031
memorable characters,
like Lyle Lanley.
585
00:22:46,031 --> 00:22:48,701
And I come before you good
people tonight with an idea.
586
00:22:48,701 --> 00:22:50,411
Probably the greatest.
587
00:22:50,411 --> 00:22:51,870
And Troy McClure.
588
00:22:51,870 --> 00:22:53,372
Hi, I'm Troy McClure.
589
00:22:53,372 --> 00:22:55,624
You may remember me
from such nature films
590
00:22:55,624 --> 00:22:57,459
as 'Earwigs: Ew.'
591
00:22:57,459 --> 00:23:01,338
And 'Man Versus Nature:
The Road to Victory.'
592
00:23:01,338 --> 00:23:03,465
Alongside these
personal successes,
593
00:23:03,465 --> 00:23:05,926
Phil's marital
problems intensify,
594
00:23:05,926 --> 00:23:08,345
and start to bleed into
his professional life.
595
00:23:08,345 --> 00:23:10,389
Brynn would do anything
to try to evoke
596
00:23:10,389 --> 00:23:11,974
a reaction out of Phil.
597
00:23:11,974 --> 00:23:14,018
We were all sitting
around the table at SNL,
598
00:23:14,018 --> 00:23:15,811
all the writers
and the actors,
599
00:23:15,811 --> 00:23:19,231
and she would come in and
sit on guy's laps and
600
00:23:19,231 --> 00:23:22,067
try to get some jealous
reaction out of Phil,
601
00:23:22,067 --> 00:23:23,402
and he was like, eh,
602
00:23:23,402 --> 00:23:25,529
you know,
he just didn't care.
603
00:23:25,529 --> 00:23:29,700
If you asked the question,
was Philip confrontational?
604
00:23:29,700 --> 00:23:31,952
I would answer
absolutely not.
605
00:23:31,952 --> 00:23:34,580
The worst thing you could
ever say to Phil is,
606
00:23:34,580 --> 00:23:35,914
"We need to talk."
607
00:23:35,914 --> 00:23:39,126
He would go away and
you would not be able
608
00:23:39,126 --> 00:23:41,545
to have an adult
conversation with him.
609
00:23:41,545 --> 00:23:44,632
He was unwilling to
deal with trouble,
610
00:23:44,632 --> 00:23:46,342
any kind of trouble.
He couldn't do it.
611
00:23:46,342 --> 00:23:48,636
He was emotionally
unable to confront.
612
00:23:48,636 --> 00:23:50,596
♪
613
00:23:58,479 --> 00:24:01,732
Well, darling,
I'm afraid you'll have to.
614
00:24:01,732 --> 00:24:03,943
You did sign a
prenuptial agreement.
615
00:24:03,943 --> 00:24:06,236
[Laughing]
616
00:24:06,236 --> 00:24:08,489
We're getting a real look
behind the scenes of
617
00:24:08,489 --> 00:24:10,491
Phil Hartman's life.
618
00:24:10,491 --> 00:24:12,910
In an appearance on
Entertainment Television,
619
00:24:12,910 --> 00:24:14,870
Howard Stern
confronts Phil about
620
00:24:14,870 --> 00:24:16,664
his troubled relationships.
621
00:24:16,664 --> 00:24:18,999
And what is it about you that
is so difficult to live with?
622
00:24:18,999 --> 00:24:21,377
Are you a tough mate?
623
00:24:21,377 --> 00:24:24,546
Phil's response is
uncharacteristically candid.
624
00:24:24,546 --> 00:24:27,132
What goes wrong is that
625
00:24:27,132 --> 00:24:29,510
I think that I know it all,
626
00:24:29,510 --> 00:24:33,514
and I marry women who
get hysterical and
627
00:24:33,514 --> 00:24:36,433
extremely emotional,
and men often think,
628
00:24:36,433 --> 00:24:37,810
"That's wrong.
What's wrong with them?
629
00:24:37,810 --> 00:24:38,894
They're not like me.
630
00:24:38,894 --> 00:24:39,853
I'm cool, calm,
and collected."
631
00:24:39,853 --> 00:24:42,064
But, I'm also
passive-aggressive.
632
00:24:42,064 --> 00:24:43,440
I'm also...
633
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,860
I'm with a woman now who
won't take that kind of bull.
634
00:24:46,860 --> 00:24:48,320
-She won't take any of that?
-No.
635
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,408
She brought me out of a
typical male neurotic mindset.
636
00:24:52,408 --> 00:24:53,909
His personal transformation
637
00:24:53,909 --> 00:24:56,662
isn't the only revelation
of the interview.
638
00:24:56,662 --> 00:24:58,122
And Phil says that this
will probably be
639
00:24:58,122 --> 00:24:59,873
his last season on
Saturday Night Live.
640
00:24:59,873 --> 00:25:01,875
Yes, it will be, definitely.
My eighth year.
641
00:25:01,875 --> 00:25:04,461
-I think this is a mistake.
-Nothing against New York.
642
00:25:04,461 --> 00:25:06,922
I like New York,
but I love California.
643
00:25:06,922 --> 00:25:09,258
He was thinking,
"I'm 46 years old,
644
00:25:09,258 --> 00:25:11,802
I'm married,
I've got two children.
645
00:25:11,802 --> 00:25:15,431
I want to go back to the west
coast where my family is and
646
00:25:15,431 --> 00:25:17,349
I can make more
money there."
647
00:25:17,349 --> 00:25:19,935
Plus he had movie
connections,
648
00:25:19,935 --> 00:25:21,979
he had commercials
he could do.
649
00:25:21,979 --> 00:25:26,191
Everything was pointing
for him to go west coast.
650
00:25:26,191 --> 00:25:29,403
There's another major reason
Phil is ready to leave SNL.
651
00:25:29,403 --> 00:25:31,905
No the truth is, I have a
deal with NBC
652
00:25:31,905 --> 00:25:33,824
to do my own show
in primetime.
653
00:25:33,824 --> 00:25:36,368
It's not exactly a sitcom,
but it will be done
654
00:25:36,368 --> 00:25:38,078
in front of an audience
with four cameras.
655
00:25:38,078 --> 00:25:41,457
It's gonna be very different
and somewhat ambitious.
656
00:25:41,457 --> 00:25:45,127
He said, "Well, NBC is
throwing money at me and
657
00:25:45,127 --> 00:25:48,422
they want me to do anything
I want in primetime."
658
00:25:48,422 --> 00:25:51,800
So he asked me to help him
develop something called
659
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,218
'The Phil Show.'
660
00:25:53,218 --> 00:25:56,638
The Phil Show promises to be
a major step in his career.
661
00:25:56,638 --> 00:25:58,515
Even though he
was well paid,
662
00:25:58,515 --> 00:26:01,018
and paid more than
most cast members,
663
00:26:01,018 --> 00:26:03,479
it was still late
night money and
664
00:26:03,479 --> 00:26:07,566
NBC wanted to make
Phil primetime.
665
00:26:07,566 --> 00:26:09,151
And he plans to use it
to launch
666
00:26:09,151 --> 00:26:11,320
Brynn's acting
career as well.
667
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,574
It was basically our take on
the old 'Jack Benny' show.
668
00:26:15,574 --> 00:26:18,577
'The Phil Show' will be you
doing a variety show and then
669
00:26:18,577 --> 00:26:21,580
you come home to Brynn,
and it will be really Brynn.
670
00:26:21,580 --> 00:26:23,499
And I thought, you know,
this could really work
671
00:26:23,499 --> 00:26:25,083
because it'll
make her happy.
672
00:26:25,083 --> 00:26:26,752
It'll make Phil happy.
673
00:26:26,752 --> 00:26:29,254
Everyone's getting something
they want out of this.
674
00:26:29,254 --> 00:26:31,465
And she's funny,
she's beautiful,
675
00:26:31,465 --> 00:26:34,009
she's fresh to the public.
Why not?
676
00:26:34,009 --> 00:26:36,303
The gears are in motion
for Phil to star in
677
00:26:36,303 --> 00:26:39,014
his own show and save
his marriage.
678
00:26:39,014 --> 00:26:41,767
I thought we were going
to discuss your hot butt.
679
00:26:41,767 --> 00:26:43,268
[Laughing]
680
00:26:43,268 --> 00:26:44,770
He performs in his
last episode of
681
00:26:44,770 --> 00:26:46,396
Saturday Night Live.
682
00:26:46,396 --> 00:26:49,691
I can't imagine a
more dignified way
683
00:26:49,691 --> 00:26:54,112
to end my eight years
on this program.
684
00:26:54,112 --> 00:26:57,991
♪ [Singing]
Goodbye... ♪
685
00:26:57,991 --> 00:27:01,495
♪ Goodbye... ♪
686
00:27:01,495 --> 00:27:05,457
♪ Goodbye. ♪
687
00:27:05,457 --> 00:27:06,458
[Applauding
& Cheering]
688
00:27:06,458 --> 00:27:09,878
But then, NBC decides to
shelf 'The Phil Show.'
689
00:27:09,878 --> 00:27:11,588
While we were waiting
to hear whether
690
00:27:11,588 --> 00:27:13,507
we're going to a pilot,
691
00:27:13,507 --> 00:27:16,677
there was another team
producing an ensemble show
692
00:27:16,677 --> 00:27:19,847
for NBC primetime
called 'NewsRadio.'
693
00:27:19,847 --> 00:27:22,349
NewsRadio was a sitcom
about a 24-hour
694
00:27:22,349 --> 00:27:24,977
news station in
New York City.
695
00:27:24,977 --> 00:27:26,937
Despite scrapping
Phil's variety show,
696
00:27:26,937 --> 00:27:30,357
NBC offers him the lead role
as an amoral anchorman
697
00:27:30,357 --> 00:27:32,943
in their new series.
698
00:27:32,943 --> 00:27:34,152
He called me and
said, "You know,
699
00:27:34,152 --> 00:27:37,489
I'd rather do this show where
all I have to do is show up
700
00:27:37,489 --> 00:27:39,867
and be an actor, and I don't
have to worry about the
701
00:27:39,867 --> 00:27:42,578
scripts, and I don't have to
worry about being a producer,
702
00:27:42,578 --> 00:27:45,247
and it's just what
I would rather do."
703
00:27:45,247 --> 00:27:48,375
Sup y'all? Brother
Bill McNeil in your ears.
704
00:27:48,375 --> 00:27:50,752
What's up y'all?!
Bill McNeil here.
705
00:27:50,752 --> 00:27:51,879
Bill?
706
00:27:51,879 --> 00:27:53,505
So I was upset
about it a little.
707
00:27:53,505 --> 00:27:56,175
You know, I mean, gee,
it was a fun idea.
708
00:27:56,175 --> 00:27:58,260
-And I know what it is.
-What?
709
00:27:58,260 --> 00:28:00,762
-Insanity.
-[Laughing]
710
00:28:00,762 --> 00:28:04,099
But the person who was
most devastated was Brynn,
711
00:28:04,099 --> 00:28:07,769
because that was her shot
at fame working with
712
00:28:07,769 --> 00:28:10,230
her husband, and there
goes that show.
713
00:28:10,230 --> 00:28:12,816
He did not support
her career.
714
00:28:12,816 --> 00:28:16,153
He had no interest in
promoting her career
715
00:28:16,153 --> 00:28:17,362
outside of the house.
716
00:28:17,362 --> 00:28:20,532
He wanted her home
taking care of the kids.
717
00:28:20,532 --> 00:28:22,492
Listen to me, this stuff
is available everywhere.
718
00:28:22,492 --> 00:28:24,828
I mean, if it were only sold
through the classifieds
719
00:28:24,828 --> 00:28:26,413
in the back of porn mags.
720
00:28:26,413 --> 00:28:28,081
Porn mags have
classified ads in the back?
721
00:28:28,081 --> 00:28:30,542
-Yes.
-[Laughing]
722
00:28:30,542 --> 00:28:32,336
So I hear.
723
00:28:32,336 --> 00:28:34,463
Meanwhile, Phil gets
to pursue the
724
00:28:34,463 --> 00:28:36,423
opportunity of a lifetime.
725
00:28:36,423 --> 00:28:39,176
Listen, to be a regular
on a TV show is
726
00:28:39,176 --> 00:28:41,553
such a rarefied position.
727
00:28:41,553 --> 00:28:43,472
He did some movies
before that.
728
00:28:43,472 --> 00:28:46,516
His career was just
taking off in general.
729
00:28:46,516 --> 00:28:48,101
His work ethic was intense,
730
00:28:48,101 --> 00:28:50,520
and he was also just
so impeccable.
731
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,357
He was a lot sillier, I think,
than most people know.
732
00:28:53,357 --> 00:28:55,359
And he enjoyed laughing,
he enjoyed when
733
00:28:55,359 --> 00:28:57,235
other people
were being funny,
734
00:28:57,235 --> 00:28:59,821
and would often
giggle uncontrollably
735
00:28:59,821 --> 00:29:03,033
when people did something
that pleased him.
736
00:29:03,033 --> 00:29:04,660
With or without
her husband's help,
737
00:29:04,660 --> 00:29:07,829
Brynn tries to revive
her acting career.
738
00:29:07,829 --> 00:29:10,290
She lands a minor role as
a cocktail waitress
739
00:29:10,290 --> 00:29:13,168
in Rob Reiner's
movie 'North.'
740
00:29:13,168 --> 00:29:15,420
-One Coca-Cola.
-Right here.
741
00:29:15,420 --> 00:29:17,339
And one sex on the beach.
742
00:29:17,339 --> 00:29:19,675
But the reviews are scathing.
743
00:29:19,675 --> 00:29:22,803
Phil told her that he
would help her career,
744
00:29:22,803 --> 00:29:25,722
he'd introduce
her to producers,
745
00:29:25,722 --> 00:29:28,225
but that never happened,
and she was very
746
00:29:28,225 --> 00:29:31,186
frustrated by it and he
used to joke about it.
747
00:29:31,186 --> 00:29:34,064
You know, he was Ricky
Ricardo and she was Lucy,
748
00:29:34,064 --> 00:29:36,483
always trying to
get in on his stuff.
749
00:29:36,483 --> 00:29:38,860
And that made
her depressed.
750
00:29:38,860 --> 00:29:40,737
I think that was the
beginning of the end
751
00:29:40,737 --> 00:29:42,280
for Brynn.
752
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,658
♪
753
00:29:50,998 --> 00:29:52,374
An inspection, sir.
754
00:29:52,374 --> 00:29:53,792
I wish we had a
little more time.
755
00:29:53,792 --> 00:29:55,168
We're not really prepared.
756
00:29:55,168 --> 00:29:56,962
It just always gives me a
thrill to see what a real
757
00:29:56,962 --> 00:29:59,381
first rate top kick
can do with a platoon.
758
00:29:59,381 --> 00:30:03,093
Between seasons of NewsRadio,
Phil stars in movies opposite
759
00:30:03,093 --> 00:30:05,637
actors like Steve Martin
760
00:30:05,637 --> 00:30:07,597
and Arnold Schwarzenegger.
761
00:30:07,597 --> 00:30:09,766
Ted, I need to speak to Liz.
Could you get...
762
00:30:09,766 --> 00:30:13,270
Mm! Oh, Howard,
excuse me,
763
00:30:13,270 --> 00:30:15,939
but your wife's cookies are
out of this world.
764
00:30:15,939 --> 00:30:18,817
What? Who told you you
can eat my cookies?
765
00:30:18,817 --> 00:30:22,029
I remember him as like the
dad in 'Jingle All The Way.'
766
00:30:22,029 --> 00:30:25,240
He was that character, and
he was really likeable too,
767
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,534
even when he was playing,
like, kind of douche bags.
768
00:30:27,534 --> 00:30:30,203
He also continues his
work on The Simpsons.
769
00:30:30,203 --> 00:30:33,040
As of this moment, Lionel
Hutz no longer exists.
770
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,584
Say hello to
Miguel Sanchez.
771
00:30:35,584 --> 00:30:37,669
And appears in
many commercials.
772
00:30:37,669 --> 00:30:39,004
Actually, it's a premonition.
773
00:30:39,004 --> 00:30:40,922
Since the great
American sandwich sale.
774
00:30:40,922 --> 00:30:43,842
Enthusiasm, I like that.
775
00:30:43,842 --> 00:30:47,054
Between TV, film, and
commercial success,
776
00:30:47,054 --> 00:30:50,599
Phil has reached the
upper echelons of fame.
777
00:30:50,599 --> 00:30:54,853
I was never surprised that
Phil became who he became.
778
00:30:54,853 --> 00:30:56,480
He had that thing,
he had that sparkle,
779
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,815
he had that star quality.
780
00:30:58,815 --> 00:31:00,984
Phil wasn't satisfied with
all that he had achieved
781
00:31:00,984 --> 00:31:02,152
for a long time.
782
00:31:02,152 --> 00:31:04,154
I think he always felt
frustrated that he hadn't
783
00:31:04,154 --> 00:31:05,906
quite crossed over
into a level that
784
00:31:05,906 --> 00:31:07,240
he wanted to get to.
785
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,700
And during NewsRadio,
786
00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:10,118
Phil was actually
starting to feel
787
00:31:10,118 --> 00:31:13,121
very content, creatively
and career-wise.
788
00:31:13,121 --> 00:31:15,123
That was a
frustration for Brynn.
789
00:31:15,123 --> 00:31:18,668
Phil's success I think was
hard for her to deal with.
790
00:31:18,668 --> 00:31:21,088
Phil also becomes more
emotionally distant
791
00:31:21,088 --> 00:31:24,299
from Brynn, spending more
time away from home
792
00:31:24,299 --> 00:31:25,759
on his boat.
793
00:31:25,759 --> 00:31:27,886
The boat was his escape.
794
00:31:27,886 --> 00:31:29,179
When we went to Catalina,
795
00:31:29,179 --> 00:31:33,892
it was just to get away
from the family.
796
00:31:33,892 --> 00:31:37,646
He took Brynn on the boat
once when it was white caps,
797
00:31:37,646 --> 00:31:40,690
and it was going back
and forth, and she said,
798
00:31:40,690 --> 00:31:42,400
"I'll never get on
this boat again."
799
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,445
And I knew that that
was his plan.
800
00:31:45,445 --> 00:31:48,115
It wasn't an accident,
it wasn't fortuitous.
801
00:31:48,115 --> 00:31:50,117
[Indistinct chatter]
802
00:31:50,117 --> 00:31:52,494
Most comedians have a
number of issues that
803
00:31:52,494 --> 00:31:54,121
they carry around
with them in life,
804
00:31:54,121 --> 00:31:55,789
and that they bring to
everything they do.
805
00:31:55,789 --> 00:31:58,542
Including, sometimes
wonderfully, to their art.
806
00:31:58,542 --> 00:32:00,460
Pick a number between
one and a hundred.
807
00:32:00,460 --> 00:32:01,628
-Seriously?
-Yeah.
808
00:32:01,628 --> 00:32:03,171
Uh... 68.
809
00:32:03,171 --> 00:32:06,091
Popeye.
Wow, all right, Olive.
810
00:32:06,091 --> 00:32:08,301
But he also goes-
[Chuckling]
811
00:32:08,301 --> 00:32:12,514
There's this thin membrane
between reality and
812
00:32:12,514 --> 00:32:14,307
dreams and dreamland.
813
00:32:14,307 --> 00:32:15,600
Uh... 81.
814
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,018
81 is Jim Nabors.
815
00:32:17,018 --> 00:32:19,479
You know, like, I got a
Thanksgiving gift for you,
816
00:32:19,479 --> 00:32:21,565
Sargent Carter.
-[Laughing]
817
00:32:21,565 --> 00:32:26,153
An artist like Phil has
extremely thin membrane,
818
00:32:26,153 --> 00:32:29,114
because that allows
him to go into
819
00:32:29,114 --> 00:32:31,533
another
person's persona.
820
00:32:31,533 --> 00:32:34,077
Which is a gift,
it's a blessing.
821
00:32:34,077 --> 00:32:36,705
But it also comes
with a curse...
822
00:32:36,705 --> 00:32:39,040
and that is, there is
nothing left of you.
823
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,834
You're going
into this person,
824
00:32:40,834 --> 00:32:45,130
you're going into that
person, but where's Phil?
825
00:32:45,130 --> 00:32:47,132
The real issue
is very simple.
826
00:32:47,132 --> 00:32:50,468
I have mob ties.
827
00:32:50,468 --> 00:32:53,388
The answer is that he
needed to be alone.
828
00:32:53,388 --> 00:32:56,725
Anything and anyone that
interfered with that,
829
00:32:56,725 --> 00:32:58,810
and that person
was Brynn,
830
00:32:58,810 --> 00:33:00,854
she wouldn't
leave him alone.
831
00:33:00,854 --> 00:33:03,773
And that's marriage.
832
00:33:03,773 --> 00:33:08,445
He told me enough for me to
formulate an opinion that
833
00:33:08,445 --> 00:33:11,615
he was suffering from
attachment disorder.
834
00:33:11,615 --> 00:33:13,658
[Off-screen] What is
attachment disorder?
835
00:33:13,658 --> 00:33:15,785
Attachment disorder
stems from
836
00:33:15,785 --> 00:33:17,829
when you're
abused as a child.
837
00:33:17,829 --> 00:33:19,915
It carries on
into adulthood.
838
00:33:19,915 --> 00:33:22,751
Simply means that you
have a very difficult time
839
00:33:22,751 --> 00:33:24,544
attaching to other people.
840
00:33:24,544 --> 00:33:28,006
Somewhere in his
childhood he suffered,
841
00:33:28,006 --> 00:33:32,219
and that resulted in
this attachment disorder.
842
00:33:32,219 --> 00:33:34,512
And the fact that he was
married three times
843
00:33:34,512 --> 00:33:35,931
is a good indicator.
844
00:33:35,931 --> 00:33:38,183
You could love him,
845
00:33:38,183 --> 00:33:41,394
but you could
only go so far.
846
00:33:41,394 --> 00:33:43,104
You weren't welcome
in that little room.
847
00:33:43,104 --> 00:33:45,106
Phil's wife Brynn is a
recovering addict
848
00:33:45,106 --> 00:33:47,192
who has been sober
for a decade,
849
00:33:47,192 --> 00:33:49,486
but then she relapses.
850
00:33:49,486 --> 00:33:51,446
We were both
married to addicts.
851
00:33:51,446 --> 00:33:52,656
I lived with Nick Nolte,
852
00:33:52,656 --> 00:33:54,658
I don't think it's
a secret at this point,
853
00:33:54,658 --> 00:33:56,910
but when I met Nick,
he was sober.
854
00:33:56,910 --> 00:33:59,788
We were all at the Golden
Globe Awards at the table,
855
00:33:59,788 --> 00:34:02,332
and I was with Nick,
Phil was with Brynn...
856
00:34:02,332 --> 00:34:05,168
all of a sudden,
Nick and Brynn,
857
00:34:05,168 --> 00:34:07,087
like it was like
an aberration,
858
00:34:07,087 --> 00:34:09,881
and they've both
decided to take a drink.
859
00:34:09,881 --> 00:34:12,884
And it was like,
what's happening?
860
00:34:12,884 --> 00:34:15,971
She went on to
become an alcoholic.
861
00:34:15,971 --> 00:34:17,555
She did cocaine.
862
00:34:17,555 --> 00:34:20,558
She did Zoloft, which
was an antidepressant.
863
00:34:20,558 --> 00:34:23,311
She was not in a good place,
and that made Phil
864
00:34:23,311 --> 00:34:25,397
even more
remote with her.
865
00:34:25,397 --> 00:34:28,650
She had been in rehab
twice that I was aware of,
866
00:34:28,650 --> 00:34:32,529
and in each case it
was regarding cocaine.
867
00:34:32,529 --> 00:34:35,156
Phil communicated to me
more than once that
868
00:34:35,156 --> 00:34:36,783
if she continued with it,
869
00:34:36,783 --> 00:34:40,704
the marriage was
gonna be over.
870
00:34:40,704 --> 00:34:42,914
One day at work when we
were filming NewsRadio,
871
00:34:42,914 --> 00:34:44,958
he came in and I noticed
that there were marks
872
00:34:44,958 --> 00:34:46,918
on his cheek,
and I said,
873
00:34:46,918 --> 00:34:48,003
"Are you
doing okay, buddy"?
874
00:34:48,003 --> 00:34:50,130
And he said, you know,
875
00:34:50,130 --> 00:34:51,965
"I slept on the
house boat again."
876
00:34:51,965 --> 00:34:55,927
Implying it was
another horrible night.
877
00:34:55,927 --> 00:34:58,096
I was sad for him.
878
00:34:58,096 --> 00:35:00,307
No one could
project what would
879
00:35:00,307 --> 00:35:03,435
ultimately happen,
but at one point I said,
880
00:35:03,435 --> 00:35:06,438
"Why don't you leave her?
Or like get a divorce"?
881
00:35:06,438 --> 00:35:08,315
And he was like,
"Honestly,
882
00:35:08,315 --> 00:35:10,525
I don't want to
lose my kids."
883
00:35:10,525 --> 00:35:13,987
And I think he was genuinely
so in love with her,
884
00:35:13,987 --> 00:35:15,363
that of course it
was something
885
00:35:15,363 --> 00:35:17,574
he didn't want to consider.
886
00:35:17,574 --> 00:35:21,036
In 1998, Phil's marriage is
as bad as it's ever been,
887
00:35:21,036 --> 00:35:23,580
but his career
continues to peak.
888
00:35:23,580 --> 00:35:25,957
At NewsRadio
we think big, big, big!
889
00:35:25,957 --> 00:35:27,751
He's everywhere on TV.
890
00:35:27,751 --> 00:35:29,878
I am like up to my elbows
in a midlife crisis,
891
00:35:29,878 --> 00:35:31,254
let's be honest.
892
00:35:31,254 --> 00:35:33,256
I can't cheat on my wife,
she's psychic.
893
00:35:33,256 --> 00:35:34,841
[Laughing]
894
00:35:34,841 --> 00:35:37,302
If I look at another woman,
she comes home:
895
00:35:37,302 --> 00:35:39,346
"Who's Laura?" I go,
"I didn't get a name"!
896
00:35:39,346 --> 00:35:40,221
[Laughing]
897
00:35:40,221 --> 00:35:41,556
"She's a Sagittarius,
you know."
898
00:35:41,556 --> 00:35:44,351
Okay, okay. Geez.
899
00:35:44,351 --> 00:35:47,020
So I, I, I...
I buy toys.
900
00:35:47,020 --> 00:35:50,774
On Brynn's 40th birthday,
she and Phil have dinner.
901
00:35:50,774 --> 00:35:52,692
What did he give
her for a present?
902
00:35:52,692 --> 00:35:54,069
A gun.
903
00:35:54,069 --> 00:35:55,862
He may have given
her other gifts too,
904
00:35:55,862 --> 00:35:58,448
but the gun was the one
that would make
905
00:35:58,448 --> 00:36:01,368
a devastating
appearance later on.
906
00:36:01,368 --> 00:36:04,287
She wanted a gun
for protection.
907
00:36:04,287 --> 00:36:05,830
It was a pearl handle gun.
908
00:36:05,830 --> 00:36:09,459
You know, as the pieces fell
together after that
909
00:36:09,459 --> 00:36:13,505
horrible day, I was like,
"Oh my god."
910
00:36:13,505 --> 00:36:15,882
♪
911
00:36:23,264 --> 00:36:26,267
At 6:20 this morning,
residents of this upscale
912
00:36:26,267 --> 00:36:29,187
Encino neighbourhood called
police to report gunshots
913
00:36:29,187 --> 00:36:31,439
coming from the
Hartman's gated estate.
914
00:36:31,439 --> 00:36:34,109
I was home, I was
watching television,
915
00:36:34,109 --> 00:36:36,986
and the reports said that
there was a fatality
916
00:36:36,986 --> 00:36:38,905
at the home of
Phil Hartman.
917
00:36:38,905 --> 00:36:40,573
Phil was the one
with the guns,
918
00:36:40,573 --> 00:36:42,784
so I called my friend
and I said, "Oh my god,
919
00:36:42,784 --> 00:36:44,994
I think Phil shot Brynn."
920
00:36:44,994 --> 00:36:47,122
And then I watched
more TV and it
921
00:36:47,122 --> 00:36:50,500
turned out that, no,
Phil was the victim.
922
00:36:50,500 --> 00:36:53,002
Officers arrived to find
a nine-year-old boy and
923
00:36:53,002 --> 00:36:55,130
a six-year-old girl
by the front door,
924
00:36:55,130 --> 00:36:57,173
both obviously upset.
925
00:36:57,173 --> 00:36:59,426
As they were taking the
children out of the house,
926
00:36:59,426 --> 00:37:02,137
officers heard a gunshot in
the master bedroom.
927
00:37:02,137 --> 00:37:05,348
There they discovered
comedian Phil Hartman dead.
928
00:37:05,348 --> 00:37:08,435
Authorities say it appears
his wife Brynn shot him,
929
00:37:08,435 --> 00:37:10,520
then the turned
gun on herself.
930
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,940
Word of Phil's tragic
murder is all over the news.
931
00:37:13,940 --> 00:37:16,818
One of TV's favourite
funny men is dead.
932
00:37:16,818 --> 00:37:18,445
Phil Hartman,
who gained fame
933
00:37:18,445 --> 00:37:19,654
on Saturday Night Live,
934
00:37:19,654 --> 00:37:21,448
was found shot
dead in his home.
935
00:37:21,448 --> 00:37:23,741
Police are still trying
to figure out exactly what
936
00:37:23,741 --> 00:37:26,953
happened, but clearly
something went very wrong.
937
00:37:26,953 --> 00:37:29,664
After the initial
news bulletin,
938
00:37:29,664 --> 00:37:31,374
I'm glued to the television.
939
00:37:31,374 --> 00:37:34,043
I'm sitting on the floor
weeping and weeping.
940
00:37:34,043 --> 00:37:36,880
I'm just...
just the pain.
941
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,215
'Cause it...
942
00:37:39,215 --> 00:37:41,342
♪
943
00:37:41,342 --> 00:37:44,220
He was,
he was my husband.
944
00:37:44,220 --> 00:37:47,724
I was in court. My wife
called me and said
945
00:37:47,724 --> 00:37:52,187
Phil had been shot.
I got as far as the tree
946
00:37:52,187 --> 00:37:56,524
outside the courthouse
before I started crying.
947
00:37:56,524 --> 00:38:01,237
I thought I had
lost my whole world.
948
00:38:01,237 --> 00:38:04,240
Jon Lovitz hosts an impromptu
ceremony in Phil's honour
949
00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:07,285
with his friends and
former castmates.
950
00:38:07,285 --> 00:38:11,080
Jon was furious, and all the
friends who gathered at
951
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,834
Jon Lovitz's house that
night were mad at Brynn and
952
00:38:14,834 --> 00:38:17,712
just couldn't believe
that she would be
953
00:38:17,712 --> 00:38:20,089
so cruel to do this.
954
00:38:20,089 --> 00:38:22,509
Jon was heartbroken
and angry,
955
00:38:22,509 --> 00:38:24,302
and I'm sure
in that moment,
956
00:38:24,302 --> 00:38:27,180
wanted somebody to
be able to blame.
957
00:38:27,180 --> 00:38:29,057
You always want to, like,
"You did it!
958
00:38:29,057 --> 00:38:31,226
You're the reason." You know,
when it was really just a
959
00:38:31,226 --> 00:38:33,770
complicated,
perfect storm
960
00:38:33,770 --> 00:38:37,899
of horrible,
horrible things.
961
00:38:37,899 --> 00:38:40,777
I think that he died in his
sleep because I think that
962
00:38:40,777 --> 00:38:44,322
he did that thing he does,
which is in the middle of
963
00:38:44,322 --> 00:38:46,616
the most intense
experience,
964
00:38:46,616 --> 00:38:48,910
he blacks out.
965
00:38:48,910 --> 00:38:51,579
I think that he did that in
the middle of some
966
00:38:51,579 --> 00:38:53,998
knockdown drag out
with Brynn and
967
00:38:53,998 --> 00:38:58,253
she got a gun
and did it.
968
00:38:58,253 --> 00:39:01,839
Listen, it's time I let you
in on a little secret, Marge.
969
00:39:01,839 --> 00:39:04,175
While the world grapples
with the tragedy,
970
00:39:04,175 --> 00:39:08,680
the shows Phil was working
on find ways to pay tribute.
971
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,348
It was Mike Scully who said
972
00:39:10,348 --> 00:39:11,849
he didn't want to continue
the characters.
973
00:39:11,849 --> 00:39:13,601
I think that was totally
the right decision.
974
00:39:13,601 --> 00:39:14,936
His characters on
The Simpsons have
975
00:39:14,936 --> 00:39:17,689
never come back out of
respect for Phil.
976
00:39:17,689 --> 00:39:20,024
NewsRadio, which
revolved around
977
00:39:20,024 --> 00:39:22,277
Phil's character,
Bill McNeal,
978
00:39:22,277 --> 00:39:23,903
will never
be the same.
979
00:39:23,903 --> 00:39:27,198
When Phil died,
as a group,
980
00:39:27,198 --> 00:39:29,242
we decided we
didn't want to
981
00:39:29,242 --> 00:39:31,494
move on with the show.
982
00:39:31,494 --> 00:39:34,914
He was the grounding
force in it,
983
00:39:34,914 --> 00:39:37,625
and to think of doing it
without him was...
984
00:39:37,625 --> 00:39:41,379
you know, nobody wanted
to entertain that.
985
00:39:41,379 --> 00:39:43,756
I think it was our director,
Tom Cherones, who said,
986
00:39:43,756 --> 00:39:44,966
"Brynn took Phil
away from us.
987
00:39:44,966 --> 00:39:47,468
Let's not let her take
each other away."
988
00:39:47,468 --> 00:39:49,304
I think I kind of agreed
with that argument and
989
00:39:49,304 --> 00:39:51,598
I think everyone had
mixed feelings about it.
990
00:39:51,598 --> 00:39:53,141
"...That about
wraps it up for me."
991
00:39:53,141 --> 00:39:55,810
Um...
992
00:39:55,810 --> 00:39:57,478
"Farewell,
993
00:39:57,478 --> 00:39:59,480
take care of each other,
and I'll..."
994
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,692
♪
995
00:40:02,692 --> 00:40:04,402
"...see you all when you
get to wherever it is
996
00:40:04,402 --> 00:40:07,030
that I am now."
997
00:40:07,030 --> 00:40:08,990
That's it.
Um, Matthew-
998
00:40:08,990 --> 00:40:11,117
I remember watching the
episode of NewsRadio
999
00:40:11,117 --> 00:40:13,411
where he died, and I don't
think I've ever cried
1000
00:40:13,411 --> 00:40:15,246
at a TV show as much
as that episode,
1001
00:40:15,246 --> 00:40:16,706
and you could just tell,
1002
00:40:16,706 --> 00:40:20,126
it was the actors were not
even being the characters.
1003
00:40:20,126 --> 00:40:21,628
They were just themselves.
1004
00:40:21,628 --> 00:40:24,172
Too bad we don't have
any marshmallows.
1005
00:40:24,172 --> 00:40:25,423
[Laughing]
1006
00:40:25,423 --> 00:40:26,841
For everyone close to Phil,
1007
00:40:26,841 --> 00:40:29,385
the big question
remains unanswered.
1008
00:40:29,385 --> 00:40:31,721
What led Brynn to
take his life
1009
00:40:31,721 --> 00:40:33,598
and her own that night?
1010
00:40:33,598 --> 00:40:35,391
Phil was murdered
by his wife,
1011
00:40:35,391 --> 00:40:38,561
and as much as I'm angry
at her for doing that,
1012
00:40:38,561 --> 00:40:40,772
you don't want to kill your
husband and then yourself.
1013
00:40:40,772 --> 00:40:43,066
No one wants
that life, right?
1014
00:40:43,066 --> 00:40:45,526
Like, no one wants
that to be their story.
1015
00:40:45,526 --> 00:40:48,196
♪
1016
00:40:54,702 --> 00:40:56,621
Whatever you've done,
whatever you were,
1017
00:40:56,621 --> 00:40:59,082
doesn't matter to you,
or me,
1018
00:40:59,082 --> 00:41:01,084
because I love you.
1019
00:41:01,084 --> 00:41:03,961
While friends and family
continue to mourn Phil,
1020
00:41:03,961 --> 00:41:07,256
more details emerge about
the night before the murder,
1021
00:41:07,256 --> 00:41:10,718
sparking speculation about
what happened to Brynn.
1022
00:41:10,718 --> 00:41:14,097
Her friend who she had dinner
with was a writer on SNL...
1023
00:41:14,097 --> 00:41:16,432
You know, it was
just a normal dinner.
1024
00:41:16,432 --> 00:41:19,686
She actually told
the waiter,
1025
00:41:19,686 --> 00:41:21,854
"Oh, I'll bring Phil in
next week."
1026
00:41:21,854 --> 00:41:24,399
So, you know, it was
like a happy dinner.
1027
00:41:24,399 --> 00:41:26,818
It wasn't foreshadowing
of anything that
1028
00:41:26,818 --> 00:41:27,944
was gonna happen...
1029
00:41:27,944 --> 00:41:31,406
so something set her
off when she got home.
1030
00:41:31,406 --> 00:41:33,491
What I believe
from what I heard,
1031
00:41:33,491 --> 00:41:35,201
'cause obviously
I wasn't there,
1032
00:41:35,201 --> 00:41:37,161
I don't think that
she would've
1033
00:41:37,161 --> 00:41:38,913
come home
sua sponte,
1034
00:41:38,913 --> 00:41:41,207
just, and shoot him.
No.
1035
00:41:41,207 --> 00:41:43,084
He had told me that
1036
00:41:43,084 --> 00:41:45,169
there wasn't gonna be
a third rehab.
1037
00:41:45,169 --> 00:41:47,964
So if she came home
and she was high,
1038
00:41:47,964 --> 00:41:50,591
and he would've said
to her, "We're done."
1039
00:41:50,591 --> 00:41:55,012
And that would've left her
in a terrible place.
1040
00:41:55,012 --> 00:41:57,098
But could cocaine and an
argument really be enough
1041
00:41:57,098 --> 00:41:59,142
to lead to this tragedy?
1042
00:41:59,142 --> 00:42:01,018
Or could something else
have sparked Brynn's
1043
00:42:01,018 --> 00:42:03,354
final act of violence?
1044
00:42:03,354 --> 00:42:04,939
♪
1045
00:42:04,939 --> 00:42:07,734
Brynn's autopsy results lead
to more speculation
1046
00:42:07,734 --> 00:42:09,569
about what happened.
1047
00:42:09,569 --> 00:42:13,573
She had Zoloft in her system
in therapeutic amounts.
1048
00:42:13,573 --> 00:42:15,241
That's an antidepressant.
1049
00:42:15,241 --> 00:42:18,619
She had a high blood
content for alcohol
1050
00:42:18,619 --> 00:42:20,705
as well as cocaine.
1051
00:42:20,705 --> 00:42:22,457
Brynn's brother,
Greg Omdahl,
1052
00:42:22,457 --> 00:42:25,001
files a wrongful
death suit against Pfizer,
1053
00:42:25,001 --> 00:42:28,129
the manufacturer
of Zoloft.
1054
00:42:28,129 --> 00:42:29,964
His lawyers argue
that the drug was
1055
00:42:29,964 --> 00:42:32,717
improperly prescribed
and its violent and
1056
00:42:32,717 --> 00:42:36,429
suicidal side effects led to
her and Phil's deaths.
1057
00:42:36,429 --> 00:42:38,014
The only person who
will ever know
1058
00:42:38,014 --> 00:42:40,391
what went on that
night was Brynn.
1059
00:42:40,391 --> 00:42:42,977
Obviously she was dealing
with terrible problems.
1060
00:42:42,977 --> 00:42:44,771
Whenever I saw her,
she was lovely
1061
00:42:44,771 --> 00:42:47,106
to her children,
lovely to Phil...
1062
00:42:47,106 --> 00:42:49,108
and she must've
been tormented,
1063
00:42:49,108 --> 00:42:52,069
and you have to feel
great compassion for her.
1064
00:42:52,069 --> 00:42:55,907
Still makes me sad,
1065
00:42:55,907 --> 00:42:57,700
you know,
to think about the
1066
00:42:57,700 --> 00:43:00,828
kids losing him
and their mom.
1067
00:43:00,828 --> 00:43:05,124
And, uh, you know,
still miss him.
1068
00:43:05,124 --> 00:43:07,627
The children
were adopted by
1069
00:43:07,627 --> 00:43:09,629
the sister and her husband
1070
00:43:09,629 --> 00:43:11,798
who lived in Minnesota,
1071
00:43:11,798 --> 00:43:13,382
and they raised those kids,
1072
00:43:13,382 --> 00:43:16,052
and they're wonderful
adults today.
1073
00:43:16,052 --> 00:43:18,012
There's no question in my
mind that Phil's
1074
00:43:18,012 --> 00:43:20,640
greatest achievement
was his children.
1075
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,643
That was what he
came to Earth for,
1076
00:43:23,643 --> 00:43:26,312
and he knew that.
1077
00:43:26,312 --> 00:43:28,356
Phil's last wish,
should he die,
1078
00:43:28,356 --> 00:43:30,691
was to have his ashes
scattered over
1079
00:43:30,691 --> 00:43:32,610
the southern
California ocean.
1080
00:43:32,610 --> 00:43:34,779
People just weren't ready to
say goodbye to him.
1081
00:43:34,779 --> 00:43:36,155
We didn't get enough of him,
1082
00:43:36,155 --> 00:43:38,074
and we were just getting
started, I felt like.
1083
00:43:38,074 --> 00:43:39,367
Look, would you two
just shut up and
1084
00:43:39,367 --> 00:43:41,494
get back into the booth?
1085
00:43:41,494 --> 00:43:44,914
Look, you can say
whatever you want to me,
1086
00:43:44,914 --> 00:43:47,375
but you do not tell
the lady to shut up.
1087
00:43:47,375 --> 00:43:49,585
[Laughing]
1088
00:43:49,585 --> 00:43:52,129
I think his real legacy is
just the number of people
1089
00:43:52,129 --> 00:43:54,632
around the world that he
made laugh repeatedly.
1090
00:43:54,632 --> 00:43:56,968
And that's a
fine thing to do,
1091
00:43:56,968 --> 00:44:00,054
but I'd rather he had a
long life than a legacy.