1 00:00:10,387 --> 00:00:11,764 And folks, we're back. 2 00:00:13,307 --> 00:00:14,975 All right. Where were we? 3 00:00:15,017 --> 00:00:17,770 Ah, yes, if I remember correctly. 4 00:00:19,605 --> 00:00:22,566 After that first season, we'd all worked our asses off 5 00:00:22,608 --> 00:00:24,276 ...and now we're cancelled. 6 00:00:24,318 --> 00:00:25,569 The bastards, man. 7 00:00:25,611 --> 00:00:27,029 I can't believe they let you go. 8 00:00:27,070 --> 00:00:28,864 We just heard. 9 00:00:28,906 --> 00:00:30,324 I don't think it had hit me yet. 10 00:00:30,365 --> 00:00:32,493 No, no. We have to do The Kids in the Hall. 11 00:00:32,534 --> 00:00:34,495 I couldn't do anything else. 12 00:00:34,536 --> 00:00:35,829 ♪♪ 13 00:00:39,917 --> 00:00:41,502 Well, let's get started. 14 00:00:42,586 --> 00:00:44,296 Shave your head, start again. 15 00:00:44,338 --> 00:00:46,882 S’all going down, man. 16 00:00:46,924 --> 00:00:48,342 [Kevin McDonald] After the first season, our show was canceled 17 00:00:48,383 --> 00:00:50,093 and it was sort of shock. 18 00:00:50,135 --> 00:00:53,013 There was a lot of like, thinking about what's next. 19 00:00:53,055 --> 00:00:54,848 More worrying. 20 00:00:54,890 --> 00:00:56,600 It was probably less organized, and more worrying. 21 00:00:56,642 --> 00:00:59,311 We thought that for like a month or two, like a couple of months. 22 00:01:02,064 --> 00:01:03,732 Thank you. 23 00:01:03,774 --> 00:01:05,692 [Mark McKinney] There used to be these awards 24 00:01:05,734 --> 00:01:08,028 called the Cable Ace Awards, which was kind of a big deal. 25 00:01:08,070 --> 00:01:10,113 Cable was starting to have its own thing. 26 00:01:10,155 --> 00:01:13,033 It was kind of the hip thing compared to the Emmys, right? 27 00:01:13,075 --> 00:01:15,118 And we got nominated for a raft of awards 28 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:16,829 and I got nominated for Best Actor. 29 00:01:20,874 --> 00:01:22,251 [Kevin McDonald] We got to go to Los Angeles. 30 00:01:22,292 --> 00:01:24,920 One last weekend where we were like, in showbiz. 31 00:01:24,962 --> 00:01:27,548 I remember going to the Aces, 32 00:01:27,589 --> 00:01:29,341 and I thought this is all a fucking joke. 33 00:01:29,383 --> 00:01:31,677 I thought we were just here to get drunk at some afterparty. 34 00:01:32,845 --> 00:01:34,096 [applause] 35 00:01:36,056 --> 00:01:37,975 And the winner is... 36 00:01:39,059 --> 00:01:40,477 The winner. 37 00:01:42,020 --> 00:01:44,523 [Kevin McDonald] Mark won and everybody was so happy. 38 00:01:44,565 --> 00:01:48,110 Even like a "hip" comedy troupe, we're so happy. 39 00:01:48,151 --> 00:01:51,530 [Mark McKinney] I did win Best Actor, beating out Garry Shandling. 40 00:01:51,572 --> 00:01:53,949 I’m crushing your head, Garry Shandling. 41 00:01:53,991 --> 00:01:55,158 May he rest in peace. 42 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,703 Show him the Ace Award, come on. 43 00:01:57,744 --> 00:01:59,997 -Bam! -Two bourbons with ice. 44 00:02:00,038 --> 00:02:02,082 Yes, please. 45 00:02:02,124 --> 00:02:03,292 [Kevin McDonald] So I just thought 46 00:02:03,333 --> 00:02:04,418 it was a normal part of showbiz. 47 00:02:04,459 --> 00:02:06,086 People winning Emmys are going, 48 00:02:06,128 --> 00:02:07,796 "Too bad we were canceled" and the audience laughing. 49 00:02:07,838 --> 00:02:09,256 I think that was enough leverage for 50 00:02:09,298 --> 00:02:11,675 Lorne to say, "Really? You want to cancel them?" 51 00:02:11,717 --> 00:02:14,636 Of course, I forgot to thank him in my speech that night. 52 00:02:14,678 --> 00:02:17,556 Of course, Lorne quickly figured out how to keep us going. 53 00:02:17,598 --> 00:02:19,099 Thank you, Mr. Michaels. 54 00:02:19,141 --> 00:02:21,685 You're welcome, Mr. McCullough. 55 00:02:21,727 --> 00:02:23,770 The axiom in television is the longer 56 00:02:23,812 --> 00:02:25,522 you're on, the longer you're on. 57 00:02:25,564 --> 00:02:29,526 So if you get to season two, season three seems inevitable. 58 00:02:29,568 --> 00:02:31,820 You don't know how it will grow, 59 00:02:31,862 --> 00:02:34,197 but you know it has the potential to grow. 60 00:02:34,239 --> 00:02:37,868 [Dave Foley] Lorne would go in and he'd meet with HBO. 61 00:02:37,910 --> 00:02:39,620 Lorne just had that, that heft. 62 00:02:39,661 --> 00:02:42,164 You know, he was able to convince people 63 00:02:42,205 --> 00:02:43,165 that this was going to be something. 64 00:02:46,835 --> 00:02:49,129 Season two, we decided to make the show better. 65 00:02:49,171 --> 00:02:50,339 Season one had a problem, 66 00:02:50,380 --> 00:02:53,175 in that it took thirteen months to make. 67 00:02:53,216 --> 00:02:56,345 Which if you've ever owned a calendar, you'll be aware 68 00:02:56,386 --> 00:02:58,764 is more months than are on a calendar. 69 00:02:58,805 --> 00:03:01,391 So we realized, well, the show can't take this long. 70 00:03:03,268 --> 00:03:04,937 [Bruce McCulloch] Bringing in writers is sort of a natural thing. 71 00:03:04,978 --> 00:03:07,105 I mean, it took just a little pressure 72 00:03:07,147 --> 00:03:09,983 of how much material we had to create. 73 00:03:10,025 --> 00:03:13,278 [Dave Foley] Our egos were such that 74 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:14,780 even though we had these great writers working with us, 75 00:03:14,821 --> 00:03:16,490 they could only get a piece into the show 76 00:03:16,531 --> 00:03:17,908 if they wrote it with one of us. 77 00:03:22,371 --> 00:03:24,581 [Paul Bellini] When you're writing comedy with other people, 78 00:03:24,623 --> 00:03:28,168 it really is "who's got the biggest pecker?" type thing. 79 00:03:28,210 --> 00:03:31,046 You are constantly trying to impose your vision. 80 00:03:31,088 --> 00:03:32,631 Somebody would come in with the first draft 81 00:03:32,673 --> 00:03:34,758 and then there'd be a million notes. 82 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,219 Then there'd be a rewrite, then there'd be a second rewrite. 83 00:03:37,260 --> 00:03:38,679 Are you really such a talented 84 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,223 comedy writer that you deserve a raise? 85 00:03:41,264 --> 00:03:42,391 I mean, you wrote this sketch, didn't you? 86 00:03:42,432 --> 00:03:44,685 Yes. 87 00:03:44,726 --> 00:03:46,228 It's got to be the oldest premise in the world. 88 00:03:46,269 --> 00:03:48,230 A guy asking his boss for a raise. 89 00:03:48,271 --> 00:03:51,608 This really proves your worth to us here at Comedy, Inc? 90 00:03:51,650 --> 00:03:52,985 [Dave Foley] There's a tremendous competition 91 00:03:53,026 --> 00:03:54,319 not just to get your stuff in the show, 92 00:03:54,361 --> 00:03:56,279 it’s a tremendous competition for what 93 00:03:56,321 --> 00:03:58,740 the philosophy of what the show is all about 94 00:03:58,782 --> 00:03:59,866 because everyone had their own view of that. 95 00:04:02,661 --> 00:04:05,288 What is it about the word faggot that makes people so frightened? 96 00:04:05,330 --> 00:04:08,041 I wanted to affect culture. 97 00:04:08,083 --> 00:04:10,419 You weren't allowed to talk about being homosexual, 98 00:04:10,460 --> 00:04:12,587 and that was certainly not allowed in comedy. 99 00:04:12,629 --> 00:04:15,507 Comedy was such a straight male world. 100 00:04:15,549 --> 00:04:18,260 I guess I was like, "I'll be first." 101 00:04:18,301 --> 00:04:19,678 Someone's got to do it. 102 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:20,846 First, you were gay, right? 103 00:04:20,887 --> 00:04:22,472 Right, right. 104 00:04:22,514 --> 00:04:24,057 [Bruce McCulloch] And then you were really gay. 105 00:04:24,099 --> 00:04:25,684 Yeah. 106 00:04:25,726 --> 00:04:27,352 Then he was irritatingly gay. 107 00:04:27,394 --> 00:04:28,603 - [Bruce] Oh yeah. - [Kevin] You remember that? 108 00:04:28,645 --> 00:04:30,063 I don't recall that one, Kevin. No. 109 00:04:30,105 --> 00:04:31,815 And now you're ungay? 110 00:04:31,857 --> 00:04:34,317 There were some at "Saturday Night Live," when I would say 111 00:04:34,359 --> 00:04:36,319 The Kids in the Hall, go, "Oh, you mean that gay troupe?" 112 00:04:36,361 --> 00:04:38,780 And I'd go, "Really? That's your takeaway?" 113 00:04:38,822 --> 00:04:40,574 Like, I'm going to put that in the lazy file. 114 00:04:42,534 --> 00:04:44,703 [Kevin McDonald] Scott helped us be important for sure. 115 00:04:44,745 --> 00:04:46,788 Dave and I are on the other spectrum, 116 00:04:46,830 --> 00:04:48,915 and we just want it to be the funniest. 117 00:04:48,957 --> 00:04:51,501 If this says anything about the human condition, God bless me. 118 00:04:51,543 --> 00:04:54,087 Evil! Evil! 119 00:04:54,129 --> 00:04:55,797 Impolite and evil. 120 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,841 Comically, Dave’s sort of half of me. 121 00:04:57,883 --> 00:04:59,718 We're the best pair in The Kids in the Hall. 122 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,180 Kevin and Dave are these modern day vaudevillians. 123 00:05:03,221 --> 00:05:04,973 They're just... they have the greatest ideas 124 00:05:05,015 --> 00:05:07,267 and timing in the world. 125 00:05:07,309 --> 00:05:08,643 [Kevin McDonald] I came to the office one day... 126 00:05:08,685 --> 00:05:10,187 ...what are we going to write about today? 127 00:05:10,228 --> 00:05:11,229 "I think we should write about that horrible thing 128 00:05:11,271 --> 00:05:12,230 you do to people." 129 00:05:12,272 --> 00:05:13,774 What horrible thing is that? 130 00:05:13,815 --> 00:05:14,775 "You've always promised them you'll do something, 131 00:05:14,816 --> 00:05:16,443 and then you never do it." 132 00:05:16,485 --> 00:05:18,070 You were supposed to meet me at the restaurant at 8:00, 133 00:05:18,111 --> 00:05:19,279 where were you? 134 00:05:19,321 --> 00:05:20,822 Slipped my mind, 135 00:05:20,864 --> 00:05:22,866 but I feel horrible about the whole thing. 136 00:05:22,908 --> 00:05:24,451 No, I don't want to hear it. 137 00:05:24,493 --> 00:05:26,870 You're the king of empty promises, you know that, man? 138 00:05:26,912 --> 00:05:29,206 I think it's cause I'm a child of an alcoholic. 139 00:05:29,247 --> 00:05:31,208 I always want to please people, and I mean it when I say it. 140 00:05:31,249 --> 00:05:33,043 And then the feeling for that goes away 141 00:05:33,085 --> 00:05:34,628 and well, I don't have to do it now. 142 00:05:36,505 --> 00:05:39,174 I like a good premise, I've been very proud if 143 00:05:39,216 --> 00:05:42,344 I write a real premise sketch, but I was a character guy. 144 00:05:44,054 --> 00:05:46,765 I’ll crush your head! 145 00:05:46,807 --> 00:05:48,266 [Bruce McCulloch] No one has better ideas than Mark 146 00:05:48,308 --> 00:05:50,310 and no one is more frustrating, 147 00:05:50,352 --> 00:05:53,021 waiting for him to come up with his brilliant idea, sometimes. 148 00:05:53,063 --> 00:05:54,356 Cut to clip. 149 00:05:57,109 --> 00:06:00,278 Wow, what a wonderful farm. 150 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,698 [Paul Bellini] I remember him watching footage of chickens moving 151 00:06:03,740 --> 00:06:05,659 in order to create chicken lady. 152 00:06:05,700 --> 00:06:06,868 I’m a chicken lady. 153 00:06:06,910 --> 00:06:08,161 - A chicken lady. - Yeah. 154 00:06:08,203 --> 00:06:09,371 And I love life! 155 00:06:09,412 --> 00:06:11,331 Everybody seemed to know the head crusher 156 00:06:11,373 --> 00:06:13,291 and everybody seemed to know the chicken lady. 157 00:06:13,333 --> 00:06:15,168 It had just become a part of the zeitgeist. 158 00:06:15,210 --> 00:06:17,087 I'm crushing your head. 159 00:06:17,129 --> 00:06:18,713 Crush you. 160 00:06:18,755 --> 00:06:21,216 Crush it, I crush. Crush, crush, crush. 161 00:06:21,258 --> 00:06:22,467 Crush your head. 162 00:06:22,509 --> 00:06:24,553 I sell shoes! 163 00:06:26,096 --> 00:06:27,764 I generally don't come up with characters, 164 00:06:27,806 --> 00:06:30,684 I usually come up with a weird idea. 165 00:06:30,725 --> 00:06:34,604 Hey, everybody, look, it's the flying pig! 166 00:06:34,646 --> 00:06:35,981 Hello, everybody. 167 00:06:36,022 --> 00:06:37,607 Weeeee! 168 00:06:40,235 --> 00:06:41,194 Outdoors. 169 00:06:43,029 --> 00:06:44,531 All I did every day 170 00:06:44,573 --> 00:06:46,741 was think about more ideas, think about more ideas. 171 00:06:46,783 --> 00:06:48,160 How does it make it better? 172 00:06:48,201 --> 00:06:49,995 How is it weirder? How is it cooler? 173 00:06:50,036 --> 00:06:51,705 ♪ These are the Daves I know, I know ♪ 174 00:06:51,746 --> 00:06:53,373 ♪ These are the Daves I know ♪ 175 00:06:53,415 --> 00:06:55,250 ♪ These are the Daves I know, I know ♪ 176 00:06:55,292 --> 00:06:56,626 ♪ These are the Daves I know ♪ 177 00:06:56,668 --> 00:06:58,295 "The Daves I Know" should have stopped 178 00:06:58,336 --> 00:07:00,046 in the chatting of it. 179 00:07:00,088 --> 00:07:02,632 But no, he carries on and they do a whole bloody sketch of it. 180 00:07:02,674 --> 00:07:05,677 ♪ Dave Capisano I hardly know him ♪ 181 00:07:07,429 --> 00:07:09,097 ♪ These are the Daves I know, I know ♪ 182 00:07:09,139 --> 00:07:10,807 ♪ These are the Daves I know ♪ 183 00:07:10,849 --> 00:07:14,644 I love that, you've got to take an idea and just drag it out 184 00:07:14,686 --> 00:07:17,105 so that people say you can't still be in on this idea. 185 00:07:17,147 --> 00:07:19,149 ♪ We are the Daves he knows, he knows ♪ 186 00:07:19,191 --> 00:07:20,901 ♪ We are the Daves he knows ♪ 187 00:07:20,942 --> 00:07:23,069 ♪ We are the Daves he knows, he knows ♪ 188 00:07:23,111 --> 00:07:24,905 ♪ We are the Daves he knows ♪ 189 00:07:24,946 --> 00:07:27,657 [Dave Redican] Kids in the Hall were wildly different people, 190 00:07:27,699 --> 00:07:29,326 but they had their artistic vision. 191 00:07:29,367 --> 00:07:32,787 They were willing to die on any hill that came up. 192 00:07:32,829 --> 00:07:35,582 Hey, any of you guys ever beat up your dad? 193 00:07:35,624 --> 00:07:36,583 -What? -What? 194 00:07:36,625 --> 00:07:37,584 What are you talking about? 195 00:07:37,626 --> 00:07:39,211 Ever beat up your dad? 196 00:07:39,252 --> 00:07:42,339 HBO said, "We feel your show's not really cohesive. 197 00:07:42,380 --> 00:07:44,799 You need something that ties it together episode to episode." 198 00:07:44,841 --> 00:07:48,845 They had a sketch where they sat around as a group 199 00:07:48,887 --> 00:07:50,430 and they do a little scene. 200 00:07:50,472 --> 00:07:52,474 And HBO said, "If you did something like that 201 00:07:52,515 --> 00:07:55,018 every episode, it would tie the show together." 202 00:07:55,060 --> 00:07:58,104 And The Kids in the Hall said, "Fuck you, fuck you. 203 00:07:58,146 --> 00:07:59,689 You know what? 204 00:07:59,731 --> 00:08:00,857 We won't do the show. Fuck it, we’ll walk away." 205 00:08:00,899 --> 00:08:01,858 Kapow! 206 00:08:03,109 --> 00:08:05,654 Stay down, please, sir. 207 00:08:05,695 --> 00:08:07,822 We were always on the lookout for selling out 208 00:08:07,864 --> 00:08:10,784 and not being ourselves and not being authentic. 209 00:08:10,825 --> 00:08:13,912 [Dave Foley] We're constantly having to explain to outsiders. 210 00:08:13,954 --> 00:08:16,164 - No, that's not how we do it. - Right! 211 00:08:16,206 --> 00:08:17,499 [Dave Foley] And it's always that, that feeling of going, 212 00:08:17,540 --> 00:08:19,459 No, no, that's how normal comedy works. 213 00:08:19,501 --> 00:08:21,711 - Yeah, right? - That isn't what we do. 214 00:08:21,753 --> 00:08:24,464 They have a "fuck it" attitude. 215 00:08:24,506 --> 00:08:27,092 If I think it's funny, it's funny. Fuck you. 216 00:08:27,133 --> 00:08:30,178 You never quite knew what they would do. 217 00:08:30,220 --> 00:08:32,305 Which was part of the danger and the fun. 218 00:08:32,347 --> 00:08:35,433 What's that bad man doing to my pet donkey? 219 00:08:35,475 --> 00:08:38,645 Well that's not just a bad man, son. 220 00:08:38,687 --> 00:08:40,730 That there's Hitler. 221 00:08:40,772 --> 00:08:41,773 [Dave Foley] We went to the network. 222 00:08:41,815 --> 00:08:43,149 Okay, here's the network note: 223 00:08:43,191 --> 00:08:45,402 "Hitler can fuck the donkey, 224 00:08:45,443 --> 00:08:47,445 but the donkey has to be alive." 225 00:08:47,487 --> 00:08:48,446 Yeah, that's right. 226 00:08:49,572 --> 00:08:52,450 - Yeah, yeah. - [laugher] 227 00:08:52,492 --> 00:08:54,494 So it went from Hitler fucks a dead donkey 228 00:08:54,536 --> 00:08:56,162 to Hitler fucks a pet donkey. 229 00:08:56,204 --> 00:08:58,415 [Kevin] Which is worse, much worse. 230 00:08:58,456 --> 00:09:01,209 - [laughter] - Way worse. 231 00:09:01,251 --> 00:09:02,794 Coming right at you, East York! 232 00:09:02,836 --> 00:09:04,379 - Etobicoke! - Scarborough! 233 00:09:04,421 --> 00:09:05,505 Malton! 234 00:09:05,547 --> 00:09:06,881 - Mississauga! - Brampton! 235 00:09:06,923 --> 00:09:08,300 - Revelie! - Pickering! 236 00:09:08,341 --> 00:09:09,634 Mississauga again! 237 00:09:09,676 --> 00:09:11,970 [Mike Myers] They wanted street cred above all, 238 00:09:12,012 --> 00:09:13,930 but I always thought that for their 239 00:09:13,972 --> 00:09:15,849 alternative stance, I thought that they were 240 00:09:15,890 --> 00:09:17,726 very, very good entertainers. 241 00:09:17,767 --> 00:09:20,854 ♪ I love the same girl that my friend does ♪ 242 00:09:20,895 --> 00:09:24,691 ♪ But he doesn't love her half as well ♪ 243 00:09:24,733 --> 00:09:27,193 The laughs came at an unbelievable joke rate. 244 00:09:27,235 --> 00:09:29,404 I saw a great movie last night. Yeah, it was, 245 00:09:29,446 --> 00:09:30,405 it was on The Late Show. 246 00:09:30,447 --> 00:09:32,449 It was um, a... 247 00:09:32,490 --> 00:09:33,992 What was it called? 248 00:09:34,034 --> 00:09:35,327 Some sketches, I think will go down as classics. 249 00:09:35,368 --> 00:09:37,162 I think "Citizen Kane" is a classic. 250 00:09:37,203 --> 00:09:39,164 - "Ci... Ci... Citizen Kane". - "Psycho." 251 00:09:39,205 --> 00:09:40,498 Is this about a motel owner who was crazy 252 00:09:40,540 --> 00:09:42,208 and kills a woman in the shower? 253 00:09:42,250 --> 00:09:45,253 No, no. I just told you it's about this newspaper tycoon. 254 00:09:45,295 --> 00:09:46,963 He had his sled named Rosebud. 255 00:09:47,005 --> 00:09:49,799 Then I guess it wasn’t "Psycho," was it? 256 00:09:49,841 --> 00:09:51,051 No, it wasn't "Psycho." 257 00:09:51,092 --> 00:09:52,677 - It was "Citizen Kane." - No... 258 00:09:52,719 --> 00:09:54,971 To me, it's the quintessential Kevin and Dave sketch, 259 00:09:55,013 --> 00:09:56,848 where it's almost entirely about rhythms 260 00:09:56,890 --> 00:09:59,684 and ebbing and flowing frustrations. 261 00:09:59,726 --> 00:10:01,102 I want to get it myself, please. 262 00:10:01,144 --> 00:10:02,896 Please, I want to remember this myself. 263 00:10:02,937 --> 00:10:03,938 Just sit down. 264 00:10:06,483 --> 00:10:08,234 [Bruce McCulloch] Kevin exploding with anger, 265 00:10:08,276 --> 00:10:10,236 it's the funniest fucking thing I've ever seen. It’s like, oh my God. 266 00:10:10,278 --> 00:10:12,864 You want a mortician, you want a mortician! 267 00:10:13,114 --> 00:10:16,868 You want a mortician! You want a mortician! 268 00:10:16,910 --> 00:10:18,953 [Mike Myers] There's satisfaction to it 269 00:10:18,995 --> 00:10:21,998 that I think is better than "Who's on First." 270 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,000 But really, all of them have a precision 271 00:10:24,042 --> 00:10:26,544 that I know that watching them keeps me honest. 272 00:10:26,586 --> 00:10:28,088 I go, "Oh, Jeez, just when I thought 273 00:10:28,129 --> 00:10:30,924 I was a precise performer. OK, that's great." 274 00:10:30,965 --> 00:10:33,259 And they got better every year. 275 00:10:33,301 --> 00:10:36,179 ♪♪ 276 00:10:41,393 --> 00:10:43,186 Bryan? 277 00:10:43,228 --> 00:10:45,105 What are you doing with your father's wallet, honey? 278 00:10:45,146 --> 00:10:49,025 Oh, I was just looking for Aunt Barb's phone number. 279 00:10:49,067 --> 00:10:51,277 I was just an angsty 20 something year old 280 00:10:51,319 --> 00:10:53,321 and Kids in the Hall were kind of 281 00:10:53,363 --> 00:10:55,824 the only comedy group that reflected Gen-X. 282 00:10:55,865 --> 00:10:57,742 So I'm a fan. 283 00:10:57,784 --> 00:11:00,412 You pig! You piece of pork! 284 00:11:00,453 --> 00:11:02,622 [Fred Armisen] It wasn’t one sketch in particular that did it for me. 285 00:11:02,664 --> 00:11:05,333 It was just like there was a mood to it. 286 00:11:05,375 --> 00:11:07,419 [rock music plays] 287 00:11:07,460 --> 00:11:08,628 [knocking] 288 00:11:08,670 --> 00:11:10,505 That Gen-X thing, it's a sensibility. 289 00:11:10,547 --> 00:11:12,048 The "outsider" status. 290 00:11:12,090 --> 00:11:14,968 What are you guys, high? Smoking crack or something? 291 00:11:15,009 --> 00:11:17,095 Are you on drugs? You sniff glue? 292 00:11:17,137 --> 00:11:20,140 They have an alt rock music kind of vibe 293 00:11:20,181 --> 00:11:22,559 with their interstitials and the black and white 8mm, 294 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,728 which I always thought was cool. 295 00:11:25,770 --> 00:11:27,230 Can you sign my button so I'll have a full set 296 00:11:27,272 --> 00:11:28,398 of signed buttons? 297 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:29,899 - Okay. - I love you so much. 298 00:11:29,941 --> 00:11:31,484 [fan] You guys rule! 299 00:11:31,526 --> 00:11:33,403 - Of course we rule. - Yeah, that's right. 300 00:11:33,445 --> 00:11:36,489 I remember you - The Kids in the Hall, right? 301 00:11:36,531 --> 00:11:38,867 [Scott Thompson] And I really identified with Gen X, 302 00:11:38,908 --> 00:11:40,869 and that might have been from the music too, 303 00:11:40,910 --> 00:11:42,704 the grunge movement. 304 00:11:42,745 --> 00:11:44,539 I think that we were very much seen as 305 00:11:44,581 --> 00:11:47,667 like, the comic arm of the grunge movement. 306 00:11:47,709 --> 00:11:50,795 I moved to Seattle in 1990, so I was like, right there. 307 00:11:50,837 --> 00:11:52,964 In the 90s, it was like, it kind of turned dark. 308 00:11:53,006 --> 00:11:54,424 [Scott Thompson] You guys got any pot? 309 00:11:54,466 --> 00:11:56,968 No, but try some junk. 310 00:11:57,010 --> 00:11:58,887 I just want some pot, you know, like... 311 00:11:58,928 --> 00:12:01,764 Get with the new world order, man! 312 00:12:01,806 --> 00:12:04,767 And Kids in the Hall was just like, "This is who we are." 313 00:12:04,809 --> 00:12:06,644 And I think that people resonate with that. 314 00:12:06,686 --> 00:12:08,062 Great show. 315 00:12:08,104 --> 00:12:10,231 - Hey, you liked it? Did ya? - Yeah, yeah. 316 00:12:10,273 --> 00:12:13,067 Did it appeal to your youthful sensibilities? 317 00:12:13,109 --> 00:12:16,571 - Oh yeah, yeah. - Yeah, it's funny. 318 00:12:16,613 --> 00:12:18,072 Except for the fag parts. 319 00:12:18,114 --> 00:12:19,991 [Reggie Watts] Kids in the Hall being there during that time, 320 00:12:20,033 --> 00:12:21,242 they were part of the churning of it, 321 00:12:21,284 --> 00:12:22,660 especially from the queer angle. 322 00:12:24,454 --> 00:12:28,124 The idea of queerness was still abstract in many peoples' minds. 323 00:12:28,166 --> 00:12:31,085 It's happy hour, time for a monologue. 324 00:12:31,127 --> 00:12:34,214 Gather around, boys. 325 00:12:34,255 --> 00:12:37,050 [Scott Thompson] Doing Buddy Cole was very important for me. 326 00:12:37,091 --> 00:12:39,093 If anyone ever played an effeminate homosexual, 327 00:12:39,135 --> 00:12:40,637 it was always a straight person 328 00:12:40,678 --> 00:12:44,015 mocking the behaviour of gay men. 329 00:12:44,057 --> 00:12:46,059 It was never a gay man 330 00:12:46,100 --> 00:12:49,604 proudly owning his femininity. 331 00:12:49,646 --> 00:12:52,774 [Paul Bellini] Buddy became a really powerful weapon. 332 00:12:52,815 --> 00:12:55,860 You could let the character be and say things 333 00:12:55,902 --> 00:12:59,155 that you, the actor or the writer, wouldn't dare say. 334 00:12:59,197 --> 00:13:04,827 It's like being told Satan's a fag. 335 00:13:04,869 --> 00:13:07,705 Maybe that's why God’s such a homophobe. 336 00:13:07,747 --> 00:13:09,874 A lot of people were offended by Buddy Cole. 337 00:13:09,916 --> 00:13:11,751 "Well you can't, that's wrong." 338 00:13:11,793 --> 00:13:14,128 They couldn't conceive of the fact that a gay man 339 00:13:14,170 --> 00:13:17,257 would play that character and not be ashamed. 340 00:13:17,298 --> 00:13:19,759 AIDS was something that happened to other people. 341 00:13:19,801 --> 00:13:22,762 But ever since Magic Johnson, I realized 342 00:13:22,804 --> 00:13:25,223 it could even happen to me. 343 00:13:25,265 --> 00:13:26,599 We were making fun of AIDS 344 00:13:26,641 --> 00:13:28,560 because all I thought about was AIDS. 345 00:13:28,601 --> 00:13:32,480 Do comedy, don't get AIDS, don't get AIDS, don't get AIDS. 346 00:13:32,522 --> 00:13:37,360 That's that was my whole goal was to... don't get AIDS. 347 00:13:45,660 --> 00:13:49,038 [Bruce McCulloch] And I remember feeling that it was so important for us. 348 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,249 It gave it more power that I was a heterosexual 349 00:13:51,291 --> 00:13:53,084 kissing Scott Thompson on the lips, you know, 350 00:13:53,126 --> 00:13:56,379 in the midst of the AIDS crisis. 351 00:13:56,421 --> 00:13:58,381 AIDS was still a death sentence, 352 00:13:58,423 --> 00:14:02,218 and it was an uncomfortable topic for many, many people, 353 00:14:02,260 --> 00:14:05,597 which, of course, is exactly why the Kids gravitated towards 354 00:14:05,638 --> 00:14:06,764 something like that. 355 00:14:09,892 --> 00:14:13,354 [Michael Musto] I wasn't crazy about Buddy Cole at the time. 356 00:14:13,396 --> 00:14:14,647 And now when I look at Buddy Cole, I'm like... 357 00:14:14,689 --> 00:14:15,732 You know what? 358 00:14:15,773 --> 00:14:17,317 First of all, 359 00:14:17,358 --> 00:14:20,612 if he's a stereotype, well, he's not that far from me. 360 00:14:20,653 --> 00:14:23,990 And also, the things he's saying are pretty spot on. 361 00:14:24,032 --> 00:14:26,492 Give me that stick. 362 00:14:26,534 --> 00:14:29,829 - But you're a man. - Labels. 363 00:14:29,871 --> 00:14:32,290 If he had people running for the exit, 364 00:14:32,332 --> 00:14:34,000 that's what comedy should do, 365 00:14:34,042 --> 00:14:36,419 as long as the other half of the audience is there, laughing. 366 00:14:36,461 --> 00:14:39,339 [Eddie Izzard] He’s even still powerful now watching it, 367 00:14:39,380 --> 00:14:42,925 someone being openly gay and having an insane twist 368 00:14:42,967 --> 00:14:46,763 and the surrealism that would come out of the things 369 00:14:46,804 --> 00:14:49,182 that he would add into that, which was beautiful. 370 00:14:49,223 --> 00:14:51,351 [Scott Thompson] And Buddy is an alpha queen. 371 00:14:51,392 --> 00:14:52,852 He is never the butt of the joke. 372 00:14:52,894 --> 00:14:54,729 He will always win. 373 00:14:56,648 --> 00:14:58,024 [cheering] 374 00:14:59,817 --> 00:15:01,653 Touchdown! 375 00:15:01,694 --> 00:15:03,905 Hold this, I’ll be back. 376 00:15:04,030 --> 00:15:08,951 [cheering] 377 00:15:13,581 --> 00:15:16,376 Season four is our best season for our film sketches. 378 00:15:17,919 --> 00:15:20,171 [Jim Biederman] The ambitions and the vision for each member 379 00:15:20,213 --> 00:15:23,091 of the group grows exponentially. 380 00:15:23,132 --> 00:15:26,302 With their natural growth of talent and their voice, 381 00:15:26,344 --> 00:15:29,097 as their voice matured was, "I have a bigger vision." 382 00:15:29,138 --> 00:15:30,473 ♪♪ 383 00:15:34,769 --> 00:15:38,272 It was just stealing from what we were influenced by 384 00:15:38,314 --> 00:15:40,942 as we were growing up. 385 00:15:40,983 --> 00:15:42,902 60s Italian filmmaking. 386 00:15:42,944 --> 00:15:45,905 Coen brothers, David Lynch. 387 00:15:45,947 --> 00:15:47,365 Leaving so soon? 388 00:15:47,407 --> 00:15:48,449 Why don’t you give me a reason to stay? 389 00:15:53,871 --> 00:15:54,789 That’ll do. 390 00:15:57,375 --> 00:16:00,294 [director] Cut and clear. 391 00:16:00,336 --> 00:16:01,838 [spits] 392 00:16:01,879 --> 00:16:03,840 It was fantastic, and we started playing with perspective 393 00:16:03,881 --> 00:16:06,843 and style and tone and acting in comedy. 394 00:16:12,515 --> 00:16:14,642 I remember there was a chicken lady sketch 395 00:16:14,684 --> 00:16:15,727 where it was like, the chicken lady 396 00:16:15,768 --> 00:16:17,145 was meeting her mom, I think, 397 00:16:17,186 --> 00:16:18,730 and she had like, a real moment. 398 00:16:18,771 --> 00:16:20,148 Are you all right, dear? 399 00:16:20,189 --> 00:16:22,358 Yeah, I'm remembering. 400 00:16:24,193 --> 00:16:26,279 [Lauren Ash] I didn't think about the fact that 401 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,282 a comedy character in a sketch show could have dimension. 402 00:16:29,323 --> 00:16:31,743 What is it? 403 00:16:31,784 --> 00:16:33,911 They were doing some like, bizarre, experimental, 404 00:16:33,953 --> 00:16:35,204 cool things. 405 00:16:35,246 --> 00:16:37,582 These like mini films, almost. 406 00:16:37,623 --> 00:16:38,666 [clacking] 407 00:16:43,546 --> 00:16:45,131 [Jim Biederman] The show started to become very expensive 408 00:16:45,173 --> 00:16:47,467 when we tried to essentially execute 409 00:16:47,508 --> 00:16:49,302 what was coming out of the writers' room. 410 00:16:51,929 --> 00:16:54,640 The zenith of this was "Love and Sausages," 411 00:16:54,682 --> 00:16:55,933 which was a Bruce project. 412 00:16:57,685 --> 00:17:00,980 I was sort of into weird Tarkovsky films and stuff then, 413 00:17:01,022 --> 00:17:04,066 and that was just one that we, the style, we just wanted to go... 414 00:17:04,108 --> 00:17:05,610 ...to style, style, style. 415 00:17:07,528 --> 00:17:09,989 [Kelly Makin] It's about an odd little character, you know, 416 00:17:10,031 --> 00:17:12,200 who works at a sausage factory. 417 00:17:12,241 --> 00:17:14,243 And I started pulling references. 418 00:17:14,285 --> 00:17:15,661 There was, you know, a little "Delicatessen," 419 00:17:15,703 --> 00:17:17,538 a little David Lynch, 420 00:17:17,580 --> 00:17:21,626 other Eastern European films that I had seen. 421 00:17:21,667 --> 00:17:22,710 I mean, it's a very visual piece, 422 00:17:22,752 --> 00:17:25,963 so there wasn't a lot of dialog. 423 00:17:26,005 --> 00:17:27,048 [clacking] 424 00:17:28,758 --> 00:17:31,677 I love that piece because there's not one joke in it. 425 00:17:31,719 --> 00:17:33,596 There may be a laugh in it. 426 00:17:33,638 --> 00:17:36,265 I know Scott screaming sausages is a laugh. 427 00:17:36,307 --> 00:17:39,519 Sausages! 428 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,022 Sausages! Sausages! 429 00:17:43,064 --> 00:17:45,149 I don't know if the other guys even like that piece. 430 00:17:45,191 --> 00:17:46,651 Oh, I thought it was awful. 431 00:17:46,692 --> 00:17:48,319 I couldn't believe we were wasting 432 00:17:48,361 --> 00:17:50,404 two days of production on it, because we never did that. 433 00:17:52,824 --> 00:17:55,159 The art department was spending so much money, 434 00:17:55,201 --> 00:17:56,244 and it was like all of these resources 435 00:17:56,285 --> 00:17:57,829 were going into the sketch 436 00:17:57,870 --> 00:18:00,581 that I couldn't see a single joke in, so I hated it. 437 00:18:02,458 --> 00:18:04,001 [Jim Biederman] It's brilliant. 438 00:18:04,043 --> 00:18:06,045 Beautifully shot. 439 00:18:06,087 --> 00:18:08,506 I mean, the more jaded version of it was, 440 00:18:08,548 --> 00:18:10,466 "Oh, it's for their director’s reel." 441 00:18:13,177 --> 00:18:16,055 I thought I needed a fuckin’ job after this was over. 442 00:18:16,097 --> 00:18:19,183 And I thought that looked like a fun job. 443 00:18:19,225 --> 00:18:20,434 And I actually was kind of an asshole. 444 00:18:20,476 --> 00:18:21,727 I said, "I'm not coming back 445 00:18:21,769 --> 00:18:23,187 unless I get to direct films next year." 446 00:18:31,404 --> 00:18:33,906 [Paul Bellini] There was a great deal of tension in the fifth season. 447 00:18:33,948 --> 00:18:35,825 Bruce definitely wanted to direct. 448 00:18:35,867 --> 00:18:39,120 Scott wanted his own show, his own half hour, 449 00:18:39,161 --> 00:18:42,081 so that's what he negotiated. 450 00:18:42,123 --> 00:18:44,792 Welcome to Chalet 2000. 451 00:18:44,834 --> 00:18:47,003 My northern home away from home. 452 00:18:47,044 --> 00:18:50,089 [Lorne Michaels] They by this point, all had different aspirations. 453 00:18:50,131 --> 00:18:53,384 And so you started to see there wasn't the cohesion 454 00:18:53,426 --> 00:18:55,553 that there had been, so it was harder to arrive at, 455 00:18:55,595 --> 00:18:58,097 "What's the best strategy for all of us?" 456 00:18:58,139 --> 00:18:59,307 You bastard! Get him! Get him! 457 00:18:59,348 --> 00:19:00,975 [clamoring] 458 00:19:01,017 --> 00:19:03,102 [Dave Foley] "I want to do this, so you have to cancel that sketch 459 00:19:03,144 --> 00:19:04,854 so I can do the thing I want to do." 460 00:19:04,896 --> 00:19:06,731 That sort of thing went on all the time. 461 00:19:08,441 --> 00:19:09,734 Yelling at each other 462 00:19:09,775 --> 00:19:11,569 and calling each other terrible names 463 00:19:11,611 --> 00:19:14,238 and having tantrums and storming off. 464 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:15,656 Scott was pretty good at it 465 00:19:15,698 --> 00:19:17,533 because he had a pretty raging temper. 466 00:19:17,575 --> 00:19:19,744 Mark and Bruce were brilliant at it. 467 00:19:19,785 --> 00:19:21,078 [Scott Thompson] Bruce was rough. 468 00:19:21,120 --> 00:19:23,039 He was always trying to control things. 469 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,082 And I was just "My way, my way, my way, my way. 470 00:19:25,124 --> 00:19:26,834 I'm better. I'm better. More scenes, more scenes." 471 00:19:26,876 --> 00:19:28,169 [shouts] 472 00:19:28,210 --> 00:19:30,212 [Mark McKinney] Bruce and I started spitting at each other. 473 00:19:30,254 --> 00:19:32,381 We nearly came to blows because he's a pushy little fuck. 474 00:19:32,423 --> 00:19:36,052 And so am I, in my own weaseley little way. 475 00:19:39,347 --> 00:19:42,308 We had no healthy mechanism for making decisions, 476 00:19:42,350 --> 00:19:44,727 so it was exhausting all the time. 477 00:19:44,769 --> 00:19:46,103 There's nothing in show business 478 00:19:46,145 --> 00:19:47,688 more exhausting than sketch comedy, 479 00:19:47,730 --> 00:19:49,857 and there's really nothing more exhausting 480 00:19:49,899 --> 00:19:53,319 than being the five guys who have to sign off on everything. 481 00:19:53,361 --> 00:19:55,571 [Bruce McCulloch] I'd be just so stressed and fucked up. 482 00:19:55,613 --> 00:19:57,114 Like, I would go to bed at night 483 00:19:57,156 --> 00:19:58,950 and my ears would just be ringing. 484 00:19:58,991 --> 00:20:01,202 [Scott Thompson] We’d do television, we’d do tours. We would write. 485 00:20:01,243 --> 00:20:03,454 We would just never stop, never stop. 486 00:20:03,496 --> 00:20:05,623 Emotionally, we just couldn't do it. 487 00:20:05,665 --> 00:20:08,668 We just couldn't do it anymore. 488 00:20:08,709 --> 00:20:10,503 [Dave Foley] We did have a meeting where we talked about 489 00:20:10,544 --> 00:20:12,588 we should probably stop. 490 00:20:12,630 --> 00:20:14,840 We didn't know how long we could keep it going. 491 00:20:14,882 --> 00:20:16,092 [Mark McKinney] I was the only one at the meeting to go, 492 00:20:16,133 --> 00:20:17,593 "Yeah, let’s do another season," 493 00:20:17,635 --> 00:20:19,303 because I was a character guy that was doing 494 00:20:19,345 --> 00:20:22,556 weirder and weirder and more specific characters. 495 00:20:22,598 --> 00:20:23,975 A lot of them on films that look gorgeous, 496 00:20:24,016 --> 00:20:26,978 and I wasn't tired yet, and I have no ambition. 497 00:20:30,356 --> 00:20:31,941 [Dave Foley] Mark wanted to keep going, 498 00:20:31,983 --> 00:20:33,526 but the rest of us were just like, looking at him 499 00:20:33,567 --> 00:20:34,902 like... we can't. 500 00:20:34,944 --> 00:20:36,904 We just can't do this anymore. 501 00:20:36,946 --> 00:20:38,197 - Excuse me... - Scott! 502 00:20:38,239 --> 00:20:40,116 Woo! 503 00:20:40,157 --> 00:20:42,618 I am going to miss this so much. 504 00:20:42,660 --> 00:20:45,121 The fact that we weren't going to try and get another season 505 00:20:45,162 --> 00:20:46,539 took a huge weight off us 506 00:20:46,580 --> 00:20:49,083 and we actually were enjoying it again. 507 00:20:49,125 --> 00:20:51,502 It felt like we could finally breathe. 508 00:20:51,544 --> 00:20:54,714 Well, we knew a great chapter in our life was over 509 00:20:54,755 --> 00:20:57,341 and we knew we'd done some kickass comedy. 510 00:20:57,383 --> 00:21:00,136 Boom. 511 00:21:00,177 --> 00:21:01,971 They couldn't shut me up. 512 00:21:02,013 --> 00:21:05,516 [laughing] Woo! 513 00:21:05,558 --> 00:21:08,019 Party people in the House say, yeah. 514 00:21:08,060 --> 00:21:11,272 We take you to a television studio in Toronto. 515 00:21:11,313 --> 00:21:13,399 The Kids in the Hall were working there, 516 00:21:13,441 --> 00:21:14,400 taping their last show. 517 00:21:14,442 --> 00:21:16,277 [chattering] 518 00:21:19,613 --> 00:21:22,199 [director] Okay, five minutes to show, five minutes. 519 00:21:24,285 --> 00:21:27,371 Come on! 520 00:21:27,413 --> 00:21:29,457 Dave, get in here! 521 00:21:33,044 --> 00:21:35,713 Have a good show, have a good show. 522 00:21:35,755 --> 00:21:38,466 [Churchill] This is not the end. 523 00:21:38,507 --> 00:21:42,636 This is not even the beginning of the end. 524 00:21:42,678 --> 00:21:46,557 But it is perhaps the end of the beginning. 525 00:21:46,599 --> 00:21:49,560 The finale was super poignant and it was very theatrical, 526 00:21:49,602 --> 00:21:51,020 the way they did it. 527 00:21:51,062 --> 00:21:52,563 We will be requiring that you all turn in 528 00:21:52,605 --> 00:21:56,067 your security passes, your coffee mugs... 529 00:21:57,193 --> 00:21:59,195 Oh, and your wigs. 530 00:21:59,236 --> 00:22:01,322 [cast] What? 531 00:22:01,363 --> 00:22:02,531 - [complaining] - Adios! 532 00:22:04,450 --> 00:22:06,243 [cheering] 533 00:22:10,372 --> 00:22:12,792 I forget whose idea that was, it wasn't mine, 534 00:22:12,833 --> 00:22:14,543 but that... that was amazing, that sort of said a lot 535 00:22:14,585 --> 00:22:16,587 ...in one quick swift motion. 536 00:22:16,629 --> 00:22:18,047 - Bye! - Bye! 537 00:22:19,215 --> 00:22:20,132 [audience cheering] 538 00:22:29,642 --> 00:22:31,936 It was incredibly touching. 539 00:22:34,105 --> 00:22:35,314 It was upsetting. 540 00:22:35,356 --> 00:22:36,690 You just watch it, you’re like, 541 00:22:36,732 --> 00:22:38,943 "Oh, fuck, it's over. It’s done." 542 00:22:38,984 --> 00:22:40,152 [audience cheering] 543 00:22:41,403 --> 00:22:43,072 It was sad. 544 00:22:43,114 --> 00:22:44,573 Yeah, I'm getting teary. 545 00:22:47,159 --> 00:22:49,578 [Mark McKinney] Some people cried and some people hugged, 546 00:22:49,620 --> 00:22:51,247 and I'm just kind of, I just go numb. 547 00:22:51,288 --> 00:22:53,582 You know? That's what a WASP does. 548 00:22:55,251 --> 00:22:56,377 [applause, cheering] 549 00:23:06,762 --> 00:23:09,306 Thank God, that's finally over. 550 00:23:09,390 --> 00:23:11,392 [applause] 551 00:23:17,439 --> 00:23:20,276 We're building up to our post TV career. 552 00:23:20,317 --> 00:23:22,653 We better strike now while the iron is hot. 553 00:23:22,695 --> 00:23:26,448 We wanted to kind of follow the Python model. 554 00:23:26,490 --> 00:23:28,576 As a sketch troupe, there was only one blueprint. 555 00:23:28,617 --> 00:23:29,994 Monty Python. 556 00:23:30,035 --> 00:23:31,620 Monty Python did a few seasons of a TV show, 557 00:23:31,662 --> 00:23:34,707 then they did a movie every three or four years. 558 00:23:38,002 --> 00:23:40,629 After the series was over, we all had a short vacation, 559 00:23:40,671 --> 00:23:42,131 and then we all came back 560 00:23:42,173 --> 00:23:44,633 and tried to come up with ideas for movies. 561 00:23:44,675 --> 00:23:47,469 I think we were still too tired and also suddenly 562 00:23:47,511 --> 00:23:51,557 for the first time, worried about, 563 00:23:51,599 --> 00:23:53,309 you know, what was going to come next 564 00:23:53,350 --> 00:23:54,810 and what were we going to do? What if this doesn't work? 565 00:23:56,812 --> 00:24:01,150 I had a small child and a pregnant wife, 566 00:24:01,192 --> 00:24:04,236 and I had fairly quickly dwindling savings. 567 00:24:05,946 --> 00:24:07,698 I really luckily wound up 568 00:24:07,740 --> 00:24:10,159 getting a chance to do the "NewsRadio" pilot. 569 00:24:10,201 --> 00:24:12,203 We had a live tour booked 570 00:24:12,244 --> 00:24:13,954 and in order for me to do the "NewsRadio" pilot, 571 00:24:13,996 --> 00:24:17,416 we had to move one show in New York. 572 00:24:17,458 --> 00:24:21,086 And I offered to pay for any return tickets. 573 00:24:21,128 --> 00:24:24,173 We were less accommodative, like, what are the rules, then, 574 00:24:24,215 --> 00:24:26,133 if you can just like, break out of the troupe. 575 00:24:26,175 --> 00:24:29,720 We were young. Feisty. 576 00:24:29,762 --> 00:24:31,680 [Kevin McDonald] It was weird because Dave and I are best friends. 577 00:24:31,722 --> 00:24:33,724 We always thought that if the troupe split up, 578 00:24:33,766 --> 00:24:35,684 it would be Dave and I. 579 00:24:35,726 --> 00:24:37,436 [Dave Foley] Kevin was the worst. 580 00:24:37,478 --> 00:24:39,063 He was the most adamant that I should turn down the pilot. 581 00:24:39,104 --> 00:24:41,607 I just went, Well, that's insane. 582 00:24:41,649 --> 00:24:43,234 I'm not going to do that. 583 00:24:46,153 --> 00:24:47,613 [Kevin McDonald] I remember for the first time ever dreading 584 00:24:47,655 --> 00:24:50,449 going to a writers room with The Kids in the Hall. 585 00:24:50,491 --> 00:24:52,034 I mean, part of the problem was because it was a movie, 586 00:24:52,076 --> 00:24:54,119 I was suddenly agreeing with Mark and Bruce. 587 00:24:54,161 --> 00:24:56,372 So I'm the one that sort of changed the dynamic. 588 00:24:56,413 --> 00:24:58,332 I was just sort of the problem. 589 00:24:58,374 --> 00:25:00,876 [Kelly Makin] They had never written all together. 590 00:25:00,918 --> 00:25:03,462 There's a lot of discussion about what should we do? 591 00:25:03,504 --> 00:25:06,298 You know, how do we stand by what we believe in 592 00:25:06,340 --> 00:25:08,634 but still do a Hollywood movie? 593 00:25:08,676 --> 00:25:10,386 I loved the script. 594 00:25:10,427 --> 00:25:14,473 It just didn't have the thing where a studio would go, 595 00:25:14,515 --> 00:25:16,809 "We're so excited." 596 00:25:18,602 --> 00:25:20,604 [Bruce McCulloch] We're fighting with the script with Paramount. 597 00:25:20,646 --> 00:25:23,607 They kind of weren't letting us do what we wanted to do, 598 00:25:23,649 --> 00:25:25,818 and we wrote so many drafts. 599 00:25:27,987 --> 00:25:30,531 I didn't like that we were rushing to meet 600 00:25:30,572 --> 00:25:32,449 a Paramount deadline, but nobody would listen to me 601 00:25:32,491 --> 00:25:33,951 because they were all mad at me for doing "NewsRadio." 602 00:25:35,577 --> 00:25:38,038 We couldn't agree on anything and any ideas I had, 603 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,124 I couldn't get into the script, 604 00:25:40,165 --> 00:25:42,042 so I just said, "Well, I want to minimize what I'm doing on it 605 00:25:42,084 --> 00:25:43,460 because I don't want to be around these guys." 606 00:25:45,296 --> 00:25:47,506 Our manager called me up and said, "Don't worry, 607 00:25:47,548 --> 00:25:48,507 they're not going to make this movie. 608 00:25:48,549 --> 00:25:49,508 Paramount hates the script. 609 00:25:49,550 --> 00:25:50,843 It's not going to get made, 610 00:25:50,884 --> 00:25:52,303 but if you don't sign the contracts, 611 00:25:52,344 --> 00:25:54,638 nobody's going to get paid for writing it." 612 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,974 And so I said all right, I'll sign the contract, 613 00:25:57,016 --> 00:25:59,310 and then Lorne talked Paramount into making it. 614 00:25:59,351 --> 00:26:01,145 I didn’t know Dave was that unhappy. 615 00:26:01,186 --> 00:26:03,105 I just thought, a movie for Paramount? 616 00:26:03,147 --> 00:26:04,732 Of course you're going to show up and do it. 617 00:26:04,773 --> 00:26:08,652 And then at some point he refuses and there's lawyers. 618 00:26:08,694 --> 00:26:14,158 So we had to sue him for him to come do the film. 619 00:26:14,199 --> 00:26:15,159 [interviewer] Did that feel like a betrayal 620 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,660 or was that just more... 621 00:26:16,702 --> 00:26:17,703 I don't think it so much felt like a betrayal 622 00:26:17,745 --> 00:26:20,205 as, in fact, was one. 623 00:26:20,247 --> 00:26:22,333 [director] And action! Action! 624 00:26:22,374 --> 00:26:23,834 Well, you can say goodbye to this! 625 00:26:23,876 --> 00:26:26,128 Yeah! Yeah. 626 00:26:26,170 --> 00:26:27,546 Wave bye bye! 627 00:26:27,588 --> 00:26:29,465 Wave bye bye, honey! 628 00:26:29,506 --> 00:26:32,426 Wave bye bye! 629 00:26:32,468 --> 00:26:33,844 [Dave Foley] Going into production was horrible. 630 00:26:33,886 --> 00:26:37,931 None of us were talking as friends anymore. 631 00:26:37,973 --> 00:26:40,309 [Jim Biederman] They would all hang out in each other's trailers and whatever. 632 00:26:40,351 --> 00:26:43,479 And Dave was like, you know, his trailer was down 633 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,606 the block and like, nobody went there. 634 00:26:45,647 --> 00:26:47,858 Bad side of town. 635 00:26:47,900 --> 00:26:49,693 [Scott Thompson] The biggest rift was Kevin and Dave. 636 00:26:49,735 --> 00:26:53,739 They really broke up. 637 00:26:53,781 --> 00:26:55,199 They said terrible things to each other. 638 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,160 And I said some terrible things to Dave. 639 00:26:58,202 --> 00:26:59,161 It was ugly. 640 00:27:00,621 --> 00:27:02,414 It was ugly. 641 00:27:02,456 --> 00:27:04,416 Well, I would not want to say anything about 642 00:27:04,458 --> 00:27:07,002 the Dave Foley situation, but it’s pretty serious. 643 00:27:07,044 --> 00:27:09,088 Well, it's all completely untrue, 644 00:27:09,129 --> 00:27:10,589 the rumours you've been hearing, but... 645 00:27:10,631 --> 00:27:12,508 - Well, that's good. - [Kevin McDonald] No, that’s fine. 646 00:27:12,549 --> 00:27:13,926 No, no one quit the troupe, 647 00:27:13,967 --> 00:27:15,928 - that's ridiculous. - [Scott Thompson] That's ridiculous! 648 00:27:15,969 --> 00:27:17,596 [Kevin McDonald] We’re five happy guys! 649 00:27:17,638 --> 00:27:19,556 And they're in a gravy, right? 650 00:27:20,974 --> 00:27:22,726 [Scott Thompson] I didn't speak to Dave all through 651 00:27:22,768 --> 00:27:24,645 the making of "Brain Candy." 652 00:27:24,686 --> 00:27:26,355 I only spoke to Dave when we were on camera. 653 00:27:26,397 --> 00:27:28,315 It never interfered with our work. 654 00:27:28,357 --> 00:27:32,903 Like, everything between action and cut was still flawless. 655 00:27:32,945 --> 00:27:34,488 [Kevin McDonald] The biggest part of that troupe 656 00:27:34,530 --> 00:27:36,281 relationship-wise with Dave was sort of me. 657 00:27:36,323 --> 00:27:38,742 It was just like a horrible feeling while making a comedy. 658 00:27:40,494 --> 00:27:42,246 I mean, we made a comedy about depression, 659 00:27:42,287 --> 00:27:44,415 and I think those vibes caused depressing things to happen. 660 00:27:48,919 --> 00:27:52,256 [Kelly Makin] There was a lot going on in everybody's personal life. 661 00:27:53,757 --> 00:27:56,552 Which made it really grueling and difficult. 662 00:27:56,593 --> 00:28:00,472 My wife left me a few months ago over the movie, 663 00:28:00,514 --> 00:28:03,767 and I’ve been tossing and turning at night over that. 664 00:28:03,809 --> 00:28:05,978 We were all depressed. 665 00:28:06,019 --> 00:28:07,604 My brother died. 666 00:28:07,646 --> 00:28:09,148 My brother committed suicide. 667 00:28:11,150 --> 00:28:13,444 The movie helped because I had something to do, 668 00:28:13,485 --> 00:28:16,613 but I was a broken man. 669 00:28:16,655 --> 00:28:18,615 Get that away from me. 670 00:28:18,657 --> 00:28:20,534 [cameraman] Why? I'm here for a job. 671 00:28:20,576 --> 00:28:22,744 I’m gonna fucking kick it out of your fucking head 672 00:28:22,786 --> 00:28:23,996 into the water. 673 00:28:24,037 --> 00:28:25,664 There's too many fucking people. 674 00:28:25,706 --> 00:28:26,832 Everything's been heaven so far. 675 00:28:26,874 --> 00:28:29,835 This is the one bad day. 676 00:28:29,877 --> 00:28:31,712 The joke being that they've all been bad days. 677 00:28:33,714 --> 00:28:35,966 [Bruce McCulloch] We worked so hard on that film. 678 00:28:36,008 --> 00:28:37,676 It was no fun. 679 00:28:37,718 --> 00:28:38,927 And I remember saying to Kevin, 680 00:28:38,969 --> 00:28:40,554 "Even if this makes $100 million, 681 00:28:40,596 --> 00:28:41,805 it won't be worth it. 682 00:28:41,847 --> 00:28:43,182 This was so hard." 683 00:28:44,808 --> 00:28:47,519 It was a disaster financially. 684 00:28:47,561 --> 00:28:51,023 Even critically, it was very few critics liked it. 685 00:28:51,064 --> 00:28:53,442 The ones that did loved it, but the ones that hated it 686 00:28:53,484 --> 00:28:57,529 hated it, like in a way that was personal. 687 00:28:57,571 --> 00:29:01,575 [Roger Ebert] I thought this movie was awful, dreadful, 688 00:29:01,617 --> 00:29:05,787 terrible, stupid, idiotic, unfunny, hateful. 689 00:29:05,829 --> 00:29:08,790 The disaster of "Brain Candy" made us think, "Oh, we're done." 690 00:29:11,877 --> 00:29:16,256 Failure is really hard to take, and once you've tasted it, 691 00:29:16,298 --> 00:29:17,883 you really don't want to taste it again. 692 00:29:17,925 --> 00:29:20,260 At that point, it was really hard 693 00:29:20,302 --> 00:29:23,180 to put Humpty Dumpty back together again. 694 00:29:23,222 --> 00:29:26,767 Groups of men trying to figure it out is a very weird thing. 695 00:29:26,808 --> 00:29:29,728 I mean, we all had, I think, problems understanding 696 00:29:29,770 --> 00:29:31,146 that we were part of a group 697 00:29:31,188 --> 00:29:35,275 that was bigger than, than we were. 698 00:29:35,317 --> 00:29:38,195 [Mark McKinney] We'd been together like in each other's armpits 699 00:29:38,237 --> 00:29:40,405 for a decade by this point. 700 00:29:40,447 --> 00:29:43,992 It was natural that we’d want to wander away. 701 00:29:44,034 --> 00:29:46,870 [Bruce McCulloch] I was sort of lost. 702 00:29:46,912 --> 00:29:50,332 It was probably the hardest thing in my life. 703 00:29:50,374 --> 00:29:52,167 [Dave Foley] Well, I was definitely out of the troupe. 704 00:29:52,209 --> 00:29:54,253 I was out of the troupe before "Brain Candy." 705 00:29:54,294 --> 00:29:56,880 And so I just said, "Well, it's been a nice ten years. 706 00:29:56,922 --> 00:29:59,675 I'll see you guys." 707 00:29:59,716 --> 00:30:02,094 [Kevin McDonald] Well, I guess it's the way it's going to be. 708 00:30:02,135 --> 00:30:03,512 The Kids in the Hall are over now. 709 00:30:08,100 --> 00:30:10,894 ["Kids in the Hall" theme plays" ] 710 00:30:15,023 --> 00:30:16,775 Everybody 711 00:30:16,817 --> 00:30:19,111 Don’t panic. 712 00:30:19,152 --> 00:30:22,197 I mean, I'm only crushing your head! 713 00:30:22,239 --> 00:30:23,824 [announcer] This Father's Day, Comedy Central 714 00:30:23,865 --> 00:30:25,284 spends twelve hours 715 00:30:25,325 --> 00:30:28,036 with our favorite kids, The Kids in the Hall. 716 00:30:28,078 --> 00:30:29,997 What Comedy Central would do, which was very, very helpful 717 00:30:30,038 --> 00:30:33,083 for the show, was that they would just marathon it 718 00:30:33,125 --> 00:30:38,255 and that really ignited the U.S. interest in the show. 719 00:30:38,297 --> 00:30:40,215 [announcer] Well, we didn't give birth to them, but we... 720 00:30:40,257 --> 00:30:41,592 We love them like our own. 721 00:30:41,633 --> 00:30:43,427 Watch Father's Day with the Kids, 722 00:30:43,468 --> 00:30:45,304 a twelve hour marathon June 21st, 723 00:30:45,345 --> 00:30:47,014 beginning at noon. 724 00:30:47,055 --> 00:30:50,767 The shows had real traction among kids in dorms, 725 00:30:50,809 --> 00:30:52,227 and that demo. 726 00:30:52,269 --> 00:30:54,229 Kids were smoking weed and watching the shows. 727 00:30:54,271 --> 00:30:55,939 I’m holding it in. 728 00:30:55,981 --> 00:30:57,441 All of a sudden Comedy Central did bring us 729 00:30:57,482 --> 00:30:59,776 to a completely new audience. 730 00:30:59,818 --> 00:31:03,155 [Eric McCormack] I discovered Comedy Central and The Kids in the Hall. 731 00:31:03,196 --> 00:31:07,242 Mark was a vampire that had brought Scott home 732 00:31:07,284 --> 00:31:10,037 and was apparently going to fuck him, 733 00:31:10,078 --> 00:31:12,581 and Scott didn't understand what was going on. 734 00:31:12,623 --> 00:31:14,207 And finally, when he realized that a vampire 735 00:31:14,249 --> 00:31:16,668 was coming on to him, he said, "I gotta tell you..." 736 00:31:16,710 --> 00:31:20,172 - I don't do nothing. - You cum, don't ya? 737 00:31:20,213 --> 00:31:21,923 - Yeah. - Great. 738 00:31:23,258 --> 00:31:26,053 And I remember thinking, 739 00:31:26,094 --> 00:31:28,013 How the fuck did they say that? 740 00:31:28,055 --> 00:31:30,932 Is anyone watching the same thing I'm watching? 741 00:31:30,974 --> 00:31:34,227 [Jay Baruchel] In my bedroom, I'd flip on the TV and put on Kids in the Hall. 742 00:31:34,269 --> 00:31:37,022 And I remember watching just like, mouth agape, 743 00:31:37,064 --> 00:31:38,857 as like a sixteen year old, like... 744 00:31:38,899 --> 00:31:41,151 I'm not going to spread for no roses. 745 00:31:43,820 --> 00:31:47,866 Holy fuck! They went for it! 746 00:31:47,908 --> 00:31:49,493 Look, there goes a leather dyke with their nipples pierced. 747 00:31:49,534 --> 00:31:51,078 Oh wow, oh, hey! 748 00:31:51,119 --> 00:31:53,330 Hey, there's a leather man with his ass hanging out. 749 00:31:53,372 --> 00:31:54,873 Look, there goes a mistress with her slave. 750 00:31:54,915 --> 00:31:58,126 I was a young queer kid watching the reruns all the time 751 00:31:58,168 --> 00:32:00,796 and being like, "This is amazing." 752 00:32:00,837 --> 00:32:02,172 But it just felt anarchic 753 00:32:02,214 --> 00:32:05,509 and kind of rebellious and label defying. 754 00:32:05,550 --> 00:32:08,470 Yeah, just blew my tiny mind. 755 00:32:16,228 --> 00:32:18,063 [Tavie Phillips] It's one of the first things I did online 756 00:32:18,105 --> 00:32:20,357 was look for Kids in the Hall. 757 00:32:20,399 --> 00:32:22,567 And there was a newsgroup for The Kids in the Hall 758 00:32:22,609 --> 00:32:26,905 called alt.tv.kids-in-hall 759 00:32:26,947 --> 00:32:28,281 and we spoke the same language. 760 00:32:28,323 --> 00:32:29,950 The quotes, the references. 761 00:32:33,036 --> 00:32:35,122 We didn't ever want to see them as broken up, 762 00:32:35,163 --> 00:32:37,791 we were still there for like the magic of the five of them, 763 00:32:37,833 --> 00:32:39,793 and we talked about it constantly. 764 00:32:46,466 --> 00:32:48,969 [director shouting] 765 00:32:50,470 --> 00:32:52,013 [Scott Thompson] We'd all had success. 766 00:32:52,055 --> 00:32:54,766 Dave had "NewsRadio," he was the star of it. 767 00:32:54,808 --> 00:32:57,936 I’d done "Larry Sanders," which is an incredible show. 768 00:32:57,978 --> 00:32:59,730 Bruce had directed movies. 769 00:32:59,771 --> 00:33:02,232 Mark had been on "Saturday Night Live." 770 00:33:02,274 --> 00:33:04,526 Kevin was this cartoon God. 771 00:33:04,568 --> 00:33:07,320 Nothing was like Kids in the Hall. 772 00:33:09,614 --> 00:33:11,074 [Kevin McDonald] The cult that we became, 773 00:33:11,116 --> 00:33:13,076 that was a quiet train with a quiet engine. 774 00:33:13,118 --> 00:33:14,828 Our lawyer said, 775 00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:16,455 "You know that next to 'Saturday Night Live', 776 00:33:16,496 --> 00:33:18,498 you're the second highest rated show on Comedy Central," 777 00:33:18,540 --> 00:33:20,083 and that threw me for a loop. 778 00:33:23,211 --> 00:33:25,213 [Dave Foley] Kevin and Scott were both living in L.A. at the time. 779 00:33:25,255 --> 00:33:26,840 So I started calling Kevin up, 780 00:33:26,882 --> 00:33:30,135 gradually started sort of healing our friendship. 781 00:33:30,177 --> 00:33:32,512 Then the two of us started hanging out with Scott. 782 00:33:32,554 --> 00:33:34,389 Gentlemen. 783 00:33:34,431 --> 00:33:36,767 [Dave Foley] My dad had just had a stroke and they asked, 784 00:33:36,808 --> 00:33:37,934 "Is he still drinking?" I said, "Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 785 00:33:37,976 --> 00:33:39,644 Oh, yeah, yeah. 786 00:33:39,686 --> 00:33:42,522 It's not his drinking hand that got paralyzed. He's fine." 787 00:33:42,564 --> 00:33:44,065 [Kevin McDonald] We all laughed. 788 00:33:44,107 --> 00:33:46,151 And I think we... I can't speak for them, 789 00:33:46,193 --> 00:33:48,528 but I know I started thinking, "Oh, we can do this." 790 00:33:48,570 --> 00:33:51,364 And that was the tip toeing back together. 791 00:33:53,658 --> 00:33:56,828 [David Himelfarb] There's something special about The Kids in the Hall. 792 00:33:56,870 --> 00:33:59,623 The chemistry between them, they can't get that anywhere else. 793 00:33:59,664 --> 00:34:01,166 So I called the guys, "Give me the authority 794 00:34:01,208 --> 00:34:04,920 to go out and solicit an offer for you guys." 795 00:34:04,961 --> 00:34:06,004 We were going to do the first tour 796 00:34:06,046 --> 00:34:07,923 and we did a conference call, 797 00:34:07,964 --> 00:34:09,800 and I remember Scott, who's got the worst 798 00:34:09,841 --> 00:34:12,219 fucking business sense in the world, and said, 799 00:34:12,260 --> 00:34:15,138 "We're not going to try to make money on this, are we?" 800 00:34:15,180 --> 00:34:18,433 And it's like, I kind of wouldn’t mind 801 00:34:18,475 --> 00:34:20,185 making a little bit of money. 802 00:34:20,227 --> 00:34:21,937 And then, of course, at the end, 803 00:34:21,978 --> 00:34:24,147 he says, "I thought the money’d be better." 804 00:34:24,189 --> 00:34:27,776 [photographer] That's the one. This is pretty good. 805 00:34:27,818 --> 00:34:30,028 [David Himelfarb] It sold out in two seconds. 806 00:34:30,070 --> 00:34:31,404 You bought tickets on Comedy Central. 807 00:34:31,446 --> 00:34:33,782 Sold out like that. 808 00:34:33,824 --> 00:34:35,909 [Mae Martin] And my mum announced that she had got tickets 809 00:34:35,951 --> 00:34:38,036 to Massey Hall to see Kids in the Hall. 810 00:34:38,078 --> 00:34:39,246 And then I got there, 811 00:34:39,287 --> 00:34:41,665 the atmosphere was like, electric. 812 00:34:41,706 --> 00:34:44,084 The audience was so diverse 813 00:34:44,125 --> 00:34:46,336 and kind of queer and young and cool. 814 00:34:46,378 --> 00:34:48,547 It just felt like the coolest thing in the world. 815 00:34:48,588 --> 00:34:51,049 And I already knew I wanted to do comedy, but I was like... 816 00:34:51,091 --> 00:34:53,301 Oh, if it's anything like this, then this is, 817 00:34:53,343 --> 00:34:56,179 like, the life. 818 00:34:56,221 --> 00:34:57,347 Have a good show. 819 00:34:57,389 --> 00:34:59,432 - Yay! - Yay! 820 00:34:59,474 --> 00:35:01,768 [Paul Bellini] The Kids in the Hall were always a great live act. 821 00:35:01,810 --> 00:35:03,895 In fact, I'd say they're better on stage 822 00:35:03,937 --> 00:35:06,064 than they ever were in any film medium. 823 00:35:06,106 --> 00:35:08,900 So for them to regroup and to do the tour in 2000. 824 00:35:08,942 --> 00:35:10,944 Of course, it's going to be exciting. 825 00:35:10,986 --> 00:35:14,990 And I realized, "Oh my God," there's a groundswell 826 00:35:15,031 --> 00:35:16,366 of fandom out there. 827 00:35:17,409 --> 00:35:18,577 [cheering] 828 00:35:23,707 --> 00:35:26,084 [Mark McKinney] It wasn't until the tour that we saw 829 00:35:26,126 --> 00:35:27,627 what had been going on, 830 00:35:27,669 --> 00:35:30,130 that we had become like the staple, you know. 831 00:35:30,171 --> 00:35:32,716 You leave this nice homosexual alone. 832 00:35:32,757 --> 00:35:34,634 Excuse me, sir, are you OK? 833 00:35:34,676 --> 00:35:37,137 Get lost, killjoy. 834 00:35:37,178 --> 00:35:39,139 [laughing] 835 00:35:41,474 --> 00:35:42,893 It’s Kathy! 836 00:35:42,934 --> 00:35:44,311 [screaming] 837 00:35:47,314 --> 00:35:49,816 Easy to beat up. Hard to kill. 838 00:35:49,858 --> 00:35:51,443 To Reg. 839 00:35:58,241 --> 00:36:00,410 Well, the first tour was sort of amazing. 840 00:36:00,452 --> 00:36:02,704 We realized that we had like, a big audience. 841 00:36:02,746 --> 00:36:05,707 It was fun. 842 00:36:05,749 --> 00:36:08,835 [Tavie Phillips] Definitely like a rock show, energy. 843 00:36:08,877 --> 00:36:12,130 People would throw up, you know, hand signs and scream, 844 00:36:12,172 --> 00:36:13,298 Hail Satan. 845 00:36:16,092 --> 00:36:17,636 They're fucking Iron Maiden. 846 00:36:17,677 --> 00:36:20,430 Like, they can still fucking shred no matter what. 847 00:36:22,724 --> 00:36:25,602 Most comedians would rather have been in a rock band. 848 00:36:25,644 --> 00:36:27,145 I think everybody. 849 00:36:27,187 --> 00:36:28,855 Every rock band wants to be in a comedy troupe. 850 00:36:31,316 --> 00:36:33,777 [Mark McKinney] It was nuts. 851 00:36:33,818 --> 00:36:36,029 And we've been addicted to it ever since. 852 00:36:40,033 --> 00:36:41,451 And my granddaughter Janie. 853 00:36:41,493 --> 00:36:44,955 Oh, is Janie dead? 854 00:36:44,996 --> 00:36:46,289 [reporter] What did you think of the show? 855 00:36:46,331 --> 00:36:47,582 It was awesome. 856 00:36:49,751 --> 00:36:52,462 [woman] All three of us came in 2002 when they were here last time. 857 00:36:52,504 --> 00:36:54,005 [reporter] So how big of fans are you? 858 00:36:54,047 --> 00:36:56,675 Well, we have all the DVDs that are out right now. 859 00:36:56,716 --> 00:36:59,844 [Jim Biederman] It was the biggest collection of freaks and geeks 860 00:36:59,886 --> 00:37:01,638 you've ever seen. 861 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,182 It was that thing going from town to town to town and always 862 00:37:04,224 --> 00:37:06,768 seeing the same people from every community would come out. 863 00:37:06,810 --> 00:37:09,062 [Bruce McCulloch] Goth girls with daddy issues. 864 00:37:09,104 --> 00:37:10,730 - [Bruce McCulloch] Weirdos? - [Dave Foley] Yeah, yeah. 865 00:37:10,772 --> 00:37:15,652 We brought some outsiders and there was a lot of us. 866 00:37:15,694 --> 00:37:17,237 Sketch comedians, they’re dorks. 867 00:37:17,278 --> 00:37:19,114 They’re losers. 868 00:37:19,155 --> 00:37:20,198 They're a bunch of nerds. 869 00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:22,033 But one of the biggest things 870 00:37:22,075 --> 00:37:23,743 about The Kids in the Hall is they made sketch cool. 871 00:37:23,785 --> 00:37:25,370 [cheering] 872 00:37:25,412 --> 00:37:28,164 [Bruce McCulloch] I think us doing live tours, which we started in 2000, 873 00:37:28,206 --> 00:37:29,874 and we did a few, 874 00:37:29,916 --> 00:37:31,668 brought us together in a way that the show had never had. 875 00:37:31,710 --> 00:37:33,169 [Scott Thompson] So we like each other more 876 00:37:33,211 --> 00:37:35,088 than we've ever liked each other right now. 877 00:37:35,130 --> 00:37:38,466 And I think we're actually in a great place. 878 00:37:38,508 --> 00:37:42,470 [Kevin McDonald] By the third tour, not wanting to stagnate, 879 00:37:42,512 --> 00:37:43,680 that was a tour of all new sketches, 880 00:37:43,722 --> 00:37:45,223 and that was very exciting for us. 881 00:37:45,265 --> 00:37:47,434 And the show went as well as our best-of show. 882 00:37:47,475 --> 00:37:50,270 We kept thinking, well, those sketches were really good 883 00:37:50,311 --> 00:37:52,480 that we wrote for those tours, I bet we could write other ones. 884 00:37:52,522 --> 00:37:54,315 I mean, that's why we did "Death Comes to Town." 885 00:37:56,776 --> 00:37:59,779 I guess hell froze over. They’re back. 886 00:38:07,078 --> 00:38:08,538 [Mark McKinney] "Death Comes to Town." 887 00:38:08,580 --> 00:38:10,540 How more dramatic can you get? 888 00:38:13,168 --> 00:38:16,171 Well, I guess we're dark comics and what’s darker than death? 889 00:38:16,212 --> 00:38:19,007 We're probably quietly obsessed with it. 890 00:38:19,049 --> 00:38:21,968 I hope the last thing I say on this Earth 891 00:38:22,010 --> 00:38:24,054 is, is not "I love you," but a joke. 892 00:38:24,095 --> 00:38:26,347 Don't let the music die. 893 00:38:26,389 --> 00:38:28,391 [Scott Thompson] We won't, we won't. 894 00:38:28,433 --> 00:38:30,685 And don't replace me. 895 00:38:30,727 --> 00:38:32,395 [Dave Foley] Death is just inherently funny 896 00:38:32,437 --> 00:38:34,147 because it negates everything else. 897 00:38:34,189 --> 00:38:35,857 Death is the one thing 898 00:38:35,899 --> 00:38:38,318 that should remind you that absolutely everything else 899 00:38:38,359 --> 00:38:41,696 about life is absurd and essentially meaningless. 900 00:38:41,738 --> 00:38:44,699 So why get so wrapped up in it? 901 00:38:44,741 --> 00:38:47,911 Oh, I'm sorry if my death and rebirth story bored you. 902 00:38:47,952 --> 00:38:49,954 Perhaps if I had some tits in my story, 903 00:38:49,996 --> 00:38:51,331 you would be more interested. 904 00:38:51,372 --> 00:38:52,916 Death and tits, would that have done it? 905 00:38:52,957 --> 00:38:54,584 Wait a minute. 906 00:38:54,626 --> 00:38:55,752 I mean, the ultimate joke in life 907 00:38:55,794 --> 00:38:57,337 is that you're going to die. 908 00:38:57,378 --> 00:39:00,006 It's the punch line. 909 00:39:00,048 --> 00:39:01,925 I've accepted since a very young age 910 00:39:01,966 --> 00:39:05,386 that we just don't know what's around the corner. 911 00:39:05,428 --> 00:39:08,348 A young gunman armed with two automatic rifles 912 00:39:08,389 --> 00:39:10,683 wandered the halls of this school this morning, 913 00:39:10,725 --> 00:39:12,477 shooting at anyone that moved. 914 00:39:12,519 --> 00:39:16,147 I was in a shooting when I was a boy in a school. 915 00:39:16,189 --> 00:39:18,024 [reporter] Within ten minutes, a teacher, a student 916 00:39:18,066 --> 00:39:21,194 and the gunman were dead and fourteen students injured. 917 00:39:25,240 --> 00:39:27,117 [Scott Thompson] Margaret Wright, I think it was 918 00:39:27,158 --> 00:39:32,163 her first year of teaching and she got murdered 919 00:39:33,373 --> 00:39:34,958 ...by the boy behind me. 920 00:39:37,752 --> 00:39:40,880 [Paul Bellini] The school shooting shaped his childhood. 921 00:39:40,922 --> 00:39:42,924 I mean, you can imagine the level of trauma 922 00:39:42,966 --> 00:39:44,342 with a school shooting. 923 00:39:44,384 --> 00:39:46,136 They weren't very common back then 924 00:39:46,177 --> 00:39:47,720 and it was the most shocking thing. 925 00:39:47,762 --> 00:39:49,514 I don't think you ever really get over that trauma. 926 00:39:49,556 --> 00:39:50,640 I really don't. 927 00:39:57,689 --> 00:40:00,108 [Scott Thompson] When we were doing "Death Comes to Town," 928 00:40:00,150 --> 00:40:03,570 I had a pain in my gut. 929 00:40:03,611 --> 00:40:05,405 I always think about the bullet from when I was a child 930 00:40:05,446 --> 00:40:07,073 that missed me. 931 00:40:07,115 --> 00:40:10,660 I always think of it following me my whole life, 932 00:40:10,702 --> 00:40:13,538 just following me and following me, 933 00:40:13,580 --> 00:40:15,373 then finally hitting. 934 00:40:15,415 --> 00:40:18,668 I just knew it was something terrible. 935 00:40:22,130 --> 00:40:25,758 The doctor told me, you have Non-Hodgkin's gastric lymphoma. 936 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,136 It's a very virulent cancer 937 00:40:28,178 --> 00:40:29,721 that takes you down very quickly. 938 00:40:32,432 --> 00:40:34,142 [nurse] Okay. 939 00:40:34,184 --> 00:40:36,853 [Dave Foley] I remember going with Scott to his first chemo treatments. 940 00:40:36,895 --> 00:40:39,272 It was, you know, a fairly high probability 941 00:40:39,314 --> 00:40:40,481 that he was going to die. 942 00:40:41,983 --> 00:40:45,195 The entire shoot of "Death Comes to Town" 943 00:40:45,236 --> 00:40:46,863 was around my cancer treatment. 944 00:40:46,905 --> 00:40:49,407 We probably could have gone to the CBC and said, 945 00:40:49,449 --> 00:40:50,450 "Hey, can we wait six months?" 946 00:40:50,491 --> 00:40:52,202 But it just felt like no, 947 00:40:52,243 --> 00:40:53,745 like that would have been a tonic for him. 948 00:40:53,786 --> 00:40:56,122 Scott's view and our view was a much better way 949 00:40:56,164 --> 00:40:58,208 to spend that time was to be doing the thing 950 00:40:58,249 --> 00:40:59,209 we love doing the most. 951 00:41:02,795 --> 00:41:03,755 [Mark McKinney] Scott. - Yes? 952 00:41:03,796 --> 00:41:05,215 Where are we? 953 00:41:05,256 --> 00:41:07,884 We are standing here in North Bay, Ontario, 954 00:41:07,926 --> 00:41:10,220 getting ready for day two of our shoot. 955 00:41:10,261 --> 00:41:12,180 "Death Comes to Town." 956 00:41:16,517 --> 00:41:19,270 Basically for me it was like, I need to do this. 957 00:41:19,312 --> 00:41:21,105 This might be the last thing I ever do. 958 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,402 Can I start again? 959 00:41:26,444 --> 00:41:29,405 We weren't sure how it would affect him physically, 960 00:41:29,447 --> 00:41:31,658 if he could even do the performing. 961 00:41:33,034 --> 00:41:34,911 [Kevin McDonald] It was odd at first. 962 00:41:34,953 --> 00:41:36,037 It was hard to know how to help him 963 00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:38,581 when he was having bad moments 964 00:41:38,623 --> 00:41:40,959 because he would break down in tears a lot. 965 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,377 I'm not so good at comforting people, 966 00:41:42,418 --> 00:41:43,670 so I would just sort of be silly. 967 00:41:43,711 --> 00:41:45,046 And he would sort of cheer up for a bit. 968 00:41:45,088 --> 00:41:47,131 Kevin and Scott and I were all staying 969 00:41:47,173 --> 00:41:51,261 in the same group of cottages on Lake Nipissing, 970 00:41:51,302 --> 00:41:53,429 so we'd all just sit out there on the beach 971 00:41:53,471 --> 00:41:55,723 and drink and talk and build a fire. 972 00:41:55,765 --> 00:41:59,519 And we had these great nights together out there. 973 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,605 [Scott Thompson] You know, everything went wrong, like my calf muscle blew up. 974 00:42:02,647 --> 00:42:04,774 I can't even walk. 975 00:42:04,816 --> 00:42:05,942 We're doing a show about death 976 00:42:05,984 --> 00:42:08,319 and I'm being stalked by death. 977 00:42:09,529 --> 00:42:11,281 I cried a lot. 978 00:42:11,322 --> 00:42:14,909 I was very sad, I was scared, was terrified. 979 00:42:14,951 --> 00:42:17,870 I remember what we were rehearsing and he came in 980 00:42:17,912 --> 00:42:19,622 and he had a little hat on and he looked like, 981 00:42:19,664 --> 00:42:21,082 fucking older than he does now. 982 00:42:21,124 --> 00:42:23,876 I remember he went and lied on a futon 983 00:42:23,918 --> 00:42:26,921 and he started to cry. 984 00:42:28,589 --> 00:42:31,217 And I went over and... 985 00:42:32,302 --> 00:42:33,219 Sorry. 986 00:42:34,887 --> 00:42:36,806 I lay down with him and I kind of... 987 00:42:36,848 --> 00:42:38,141 cuddled him, cradled him. 988 00:42:40,685 --> 00:42:42,979 And I said, "You're not going to die. 989 00:42:44,605 --> 00:42:46,316 Mark's going to die 990 00:42:46,357 --> 00:42:48,735 ...because he sends back so much fucking wine. 991 00:42:48,776 --> 00:42:50,570 And you know who's going to die? 992 00:42:50,611 --> 00:42:53,489 Dave's going to die because his ex-wife is going to kill him. 993 00:42:53,531 --> 00:42:55,616 And you know, what's going to happen to Kevin? 994 00:42:55,658 --> 00:42:58,911 He's going to blow out his heart doing an improv. 995 00:42:58,953 --> 00:43:00,288 And you know how I'm going to die? 996 00:43:00,330 --> 00:43:01,581 I'm going to die working to death. 997 00:43:03,958 --> 00:43:05,376 You're going to die last." 998 00:43:10,965 --> 00:43:12,967 [Scott Thompson] Here we go. 999 00:43:14,052 --> 00:43:17,221 There is no greater high 1000 00:43:17,263 --> 00:43:21,809 than coming to the brink of death and winning. 1001 00:43:22,935 --> 00:43:25,271 We’ve got to ring the bell. 1002 00:43:25,313 --> 00:43:27,315 Here we go. Ready? 1003 00:43:31,069 --> 00:43:32,070 I broke it. 1004 00:43:32,111 --> 00:43:34,030 [laughing] 1005 00:43:41,537 --> 00:43:43,289 ♪ We just don't know ♪ 1006 00:43:43,331 --> 00:43:46,292 ♪ I think I will explain the show ♪ 1007 00:43:46,334 --> 00:43:48,711 ♪ We’re The Kids in the Hall ♪ 1008 00:43:50,755 --> 00:43:54,258 ♪ You might be here just because of rain ♪ 1009 00:43:54,300 --> 00:43:57,887 ♪ So I think I will explain ♪ 1010 00:43:57,929 --> 00:43:59,806 ♪ The Kids in the Hall ♪ 1011 00:44:01,265 --> 00:44:03,601 Their legacy is one of empowering misfits 1012 00:44:03,643 --> 00:44:06,813 and outsiders, of being anti-authority. 1013 00:44:06,854 --> 00:44:09,107 They make me feel very proud to be Canadian, to be honest. 1014 00:44:09,148 --> 00:44:10,817 A lot of their scenes are timeless 1015 00:44:10,858 --> 00:44:12,652 and I don't think anyone has pulled it off 1016 00:44:12,693 --> 00:44:14,195 quite like The Kids in the Hall have. 1017 00:44:14,237 --> 00:44:16,114 It's crazy to me that there's kids out there 1018 00:44:16,155 --> 00:44:17,907 who don't know Kids in the Hall. 1019 00:44:17,949 --> 00:44:20,910 I'd put their fucking intellects and their talents 1020 00:44:20,952 --> 00:44:24,038 up against anybody in the world. 1021 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,625 [Kevin McDonald] ♪ We played at a club called the Rivoli ♪ 1022 00:44:27,667 --> 00:44:31,045 ♪ Lorne Michaels discovered us but didn’t like three ♪ 1023 00:44:31,087 --> 00:44:33,256 ♪ Of The Kids in the Hall ♪ 1024 00:44:33,297 --> 00:44:35,133 The best of their work, I think is really 1025 00:44:35,174 --> 00:44:37,218 in the front rank of comedy, period. 1026 00:44:37,260 --> 00:44:39,387 I think The Kids in the Hall will be viewed 1027 00:44:39,429 --> 00:44:42,515 as one of the greatest sketch troupes of all time. 1028 00:44:42,557 --> 00:44:45,685 [Kevin McDonald] ♪ We're the show that your grandpas told you about ♪ 1029 00:44:45,726 --> 00:44:48,146 ♪ Aging Kids in the Hall ♪ 1030 00:44:48,187 --> 00:44:49,564 - Can we get his reaction? - Take his reaction. 1031 00:44:49,605 --> 00:44:50,815 - Take the mask off? 1032 00:44:50,857 --> 00:44:52,650 - Okay, tell him. - Okay, ready. 1033 00:44:58,698 --> 00:45:02,702 [Kevin McDonald] ♪ We're not quitting ♪ 1034 00:45:02,743 --> 00:45:06,122 ♪ We're not quitting ♪ 1035 00:45:06,706 --> 00:45:08,416 ♪ We're not quitting ♪ 1036 00:45:08,458 --> 00:45:12,545 ♪ ’Till one of us dies Probably Dave ♪♪ 1037 00:45:13,629 --> 00:45:15,047 [applause] 1038 00:45:17,925 --> 00:45:19,927 [director] Okay. Stand by, please. 1039 00:45:19,969 --> 00:45:20,970 Camera move. 1040 00:45:23,723 --> 00:45:25,808 Framed. 1041 00:45:25,850 --> 00:45:27,226 [Dave Foley] What’s gonna play at your funeral, Mark? 1042 00:45:27,268 --> 00:45:28,686 [Mark McKinney] God, I don't know. 1043 00:45:28,728 --> 00:45:29,896 [director] Mark, you’re on, Ready dirt. 1044 00:45:29,937 --> 00:45:31,147 And... dirt. 1045 00:45:32,607 --> 00:45:34,400 Depends, will there be fog at my funeral? 1046 00:45:34,442 --> 00:45:35,818 - Yeah. Most likely. - Dry ice. 1047 00:45:35,860 --> 00:45:38,529 Fuck it, then just a single, you know... 1048 00:45:38,571 --> 00:45:40,281 - One note? - Lamentation violin. 1049 00:45:40,323 --> 00:45:41,824 - Oh. - Playing one note. 1050 00:45:44,952 --> 00:45:46,037 [Scott Thompson] This troupe, we love each other. 1051 00:45:46,078 --> 00:45:47,246 That's the key. 1052 00:45:47,288 --> 00:45:48,706 I couldn't have done any of it 1053 00:45:48,748 --> 00:45:50,958 if you guys hadn't written me those tiny, 1054 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,835 perfect little roles. 1055 00:45:52,877 --> 00:45:54,962 And you're very lucky in your life 1056 00:45:55,004 --> 00:45:56,797 if you're going to find two or three people 1057 00:45:56,839 --> 00:45:59,050 that you hit it off with. 1058 00:45:59,091 --> 00:46:02,470 But to find four other people is a miracle. 1059 00:46:02,512 --> 00:46:04,305 The Kids in the Hall is a love story. 1060 00:46:04,347 --> 00:46:06,516 The four worst people you could ever be 1061 00:46:06,557 --> 00:46:09,143 forced to love for 40 years. 1062 00:46:09,185 --> 00:46:11,771 I am going to play T-Rex at Scott's funeral. 1063 00:46:11,812 --> 00:46:13,022 [Scott Thompson] T-Rex? 1064 00:46:13,064 --> 00:46:15,191 ♪ Metal Guru is it true ♪ 1065 00:46:15,233 --> 00:46:16,943 I guess that’s it. 1066 00:46:16,984 --> 00:46:18,569 I don't know the song, but I'm sure it means a lot to me. 1067 00:46:18,611 --> 00:46:19,987 [Dave Foley] I'm not even going to have a funeral. 1068 00:46:20,029 --> 00:46:22,406 Just arrange a screening of "Duck Soup." 1069 00:46:22,448 --> 00:46:24,992 - And that's it. - Yeah. 1070 00:46:25,034 --> 00:46:26,744 [director] Keep going. 1071 00:46:26,786 --> 00:46:28,246 In the beginning, it was all just about, 1072 00:46:28,287 --> 00:46:29,872 can I make these four people laugh? 1073 00:46:32,333 --> 00:46:34,835 Kids in the Hall are my audience for life. 1074 00:46:34,877 --> 00:46:37,672 And notice how I work the word "audience" in there. 1075 00:46:37,713 --> 00:46:39,090 Best name ever. 1076 00:46:42,343 --> 00:46:43,386 [Kevin McDonald] I guess mine would be... 1077 00:46:43,427 --> 00:46:44,345 "I'm sorry." 1078 00:46:44,387 --> 00:46:45,429 For dying or just your life? 1079 00:46:45,471 --> 00:46:49,600 Just for my life. Sorry. 1080 00:46:49,642 --> 00:46:50,685 They're many things, they’re family, 1081 00:46:50,726 --> 00:46:52,061 they’re salvation. 1082 00:46:52,103 --> 00:46:54,522 They're an end to loneliness and no one... 1083 00:46:54,564 --> 00:46:59,026 No one understands me as well as those four. No one. 1084 00:46:59,068 --> 00:47:02,446 I feel like there's such a compassion for each other now. 1085 00:47:02,488 --> 00:47:05,074 And yeah, no, we're going to keep doing it 1086 00:47:05,116 --> 00:47:06,409 until we can't do it. 1087 00:47:08,911 --> 00:47:11,622 [laughter] 1088 00:47:11,664 --> 00:47:13,666 [Churchill] This is not the end. 1089 00:47:13,708 --> 00:47:18,671 It is not even the beginning of the end. 1090 00:47:18,713 --> 00:47:20,089 [Kevin McDonald] You’re not a friend. 1091 00:47:20,131 --> 00:47:21,799 You're not a friend. You're jostlers! 1092 00:47:21,841 --> 00:47:23,426 I guess they call it a reboot, 1093 00:47:23,467 --> 00:47:24,802 but we're trying to think of it 1094 00:47:24,844 --> 00:47:26,637 as the sixth season of "The Kids in the Hall." 1095 00:47:26,679 --> 00:47:30,391 [Dave Foley] Making a TV show, I think is kind of a nice release for everybody. 1096 00:47:30,433 --> 00:47:32,184 We don't have this freedom anywhere else. 1097 00:47:35,855 --> 00:47:37,982 It's us against the world again. 1098 00:47:38,024 --> 00:47:39,942 What a thrill. 1099 00:47:47,950 --> 00:47:49,994 ♪♪