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[Rusty] Ray, Ray, Ray? You okay? Hey, hey.
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- [Lorraine] I'm his wife. I'm his wife.
- [Rusty] Hey, somebody call an ambulance!
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Did you call an ambulance?
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[medical personnel clamoring]
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[paramedic]
Loss of consciousness upon arrival.
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- [doctor] Sensing erratic pulse.
- [paramedic] IV started in the right arm.
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[doctor] Okay. Let's make sure his O2 is
at eight liters.
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He's gonna need a 12-lead EKG,
a full blood panel, CBC and cross.
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He's going into V-tach, check his pulse.
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We've lost the pulse.
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[monitors beeping]
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[sirens wailing in distance]
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[phone buzzing]
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- Hey, honey.
- [Barbara] I'm home with the kids.
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How is he?
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He's still in surgery.
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- [reporter on TV] As Raymond Horgan...
- Okay.
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- [Rusty] I'll keep you posted, okay?
- Okay. Okay.
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- I love you.
- Yeah. Bye.
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[reporter] ...after suffering
from an apparent cardiac arrest.
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- Definitely an unexpected turn of events.
- [sighs] God.
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{\an8}We're not hearing at all if this trial is
actually going to continue at this point.
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{\an8}Rae, is there any precedent at all
for this type of thing happening?
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A defendant jumping in
and saving his attorney's life?
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[Rae] You know,
it typically works the other way around.
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But to answer your question,
there's no rule.
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It's up to the judge.
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{\an8}And given the one we have here,
I'd say anything goes at this time.
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- [TV continues, indistinct]
- Okay, so if it's a mistrial,
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they do it all over again?
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It seems so.
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[sighs] This is so fucked.
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[anchor] ...pandemonium there
at the courtroom.
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I'm guessing it's the same
way over at the emergency room.
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Hey, you want something to drink?
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You want some water
or something like that?
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Yeah.
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- Yeah, thank you.
- Yeah?
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Lorraine, I just want to say I'm so sorry.
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And, uh, if there's any way I can help--
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I know that rings hollow--
but, um, whatever I can do...
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Um...
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- Thank you.
- Yeah.
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- Okay.
- [Lorraine] Thanks.
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- [doctor] Mrs. Horgan?
- Yeah?
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- Mrs.-- Mrs. Horgan?
- Yeah.
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He's gonna be okay. Improved, even.
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- Really?
- [doctor] It wasn't a coronary.
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- It was a bradycardia.
- [Lorraine] Oh, my--
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It's an-- an electrical issue that
slowed his heart rate down to a near stop.
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We gave him a pacemaker.
There's no neurological damage.
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- He'll walk out improved.
- Thank you, Doctor. [chuckles]
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S-- So he's gonna be okay?
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- He's gonna be all right, fine.
- Yeah.
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Better. He's in recovery right now.
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He'll be in his room in a few hours
and you'll be able to see him then.
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Oh, my God. [cries, sniffles]
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- Thank you. Thank you.
- [doctor] Yeah. You're welcome.
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- Yeah? [chuckles]
- [cries]
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[Nico] We got a problem.
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Yeah, we got a problem.
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[sighs] Uh, the jury just saw Rusty
go all hero an--
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We need to move for a mistrial.
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- What?
- Yeah.
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- We-- We--
- We're winning.
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- [chuckling] I'm not so sure of that.
- A mistrial and he walks.
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- No. We don't know that.
- [Tommy] Yes, we do. Come on.
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Second time through,
he's gonna know our hand.
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Think about this. As-As lying,
cheating psychopaths go,
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- he's a pretty charming guy, right?
- It doesn't--
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And he just saved a human life
in front of the jury.
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It can also be argued that
the jury just saw him act impulsively,
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physically in a way
that they saw him snap.
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But you have to just trust the jury.
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Know that they're more equipped
to visualize what happened that night
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than either of us.
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{\an8}[podcaster 1]
So, the question is, "Now what?"
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{\an8}[scoffs] You can't keep going
without your head counsel
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{\an8}this deep into a murder trial.
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[podcaster 2]
Maybe they put things on pause?
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[podcaster 1] I'm pretty sure
that's not how it works.
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From everything I'm reading
from legal experts, it--
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[reporters clamoring]
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[Laryn] So what are we thinking?
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Are we thinking?
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[inhales sharply]
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Mr. Delay Guardia,
you certainly seem cognitively overdue.
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Mmm. I'm just weighing
the principles of judicial economics
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versus those of fairness, you know?
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We recognize, as agents of the court,
that we have a duty
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to ensure proceedings are free
of prejudice and undue bias.
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What the fuck are you talking about?
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We left law school years ago.
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- What are you talking about?
- [Nico] I'm saying that
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we think a mistrial is justified.
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- Well, that's all you had to say.
- We oppose.
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[Laryn scoffs]
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You wanna keep going?
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I'm prepared to take over.
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- Immediately?
- You're gonna take over?
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Tomorrow. I'd like a day.
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Mr. Delay Guardia?
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Uh-- [chuckles] S-S-Sorry.
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Yeah. Yeah.
The prosecution stands ready to proceed.
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I'd like to represent myself.
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I'm sorry?
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I'd like to take over as lead counsel.
My appearance is already on record
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and Ms. Winslow's experience
is more limited than my own.
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- No, a person cannot stand as a witness...
- [Rusty] She can serve as second chair.
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...and an advocate in the same proceeding.
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I will not stand as a witness.
I'll stipulate that right now.
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You will be a witness. You're gonna be
the most clever witness of all time
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'cause you'll get to put your point
of view and your demeanor to the jury...
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- My lead counsel is incapacitated.
- ...without facing cross-examination.
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I will not offer
anything evidentiary or testimonial.
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And may I remind the court
that it is my right.
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Then the court will remind you,
Mr. Sabich,
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if you even hint at
giving your version of events,
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I will allow prosecution
to put you into that witness chair,
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where you will be subject
to full cross-examination.
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And should you blow a hole in your foot,
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you will not be granted appeal
on Sixth Amendment grounds
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of having a fool for an attorney.
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You're gonna go pro per?
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[Laryn] So long as he doesn't give
testimony, there's no bar to it.
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I understand, Your Honor.
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[scoffs]
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Bad idea.
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But you're free to indulge it.
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I'll instruct the jury,
and we shall resume tomorrow at 10:00 a.m.
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You might wanna rethink.
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How-How can this be?
You promised me that you would shield him.
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- We'll do our best.
- [Caldwell] You'll do your best?
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You'll do your best?
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Is no one watching out for my son?
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He will now be cross-examined
by the very man who murdered his mother.
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- It is his right, right to represent--
- He's a fucking murderer!
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{\an8}[anchor] Even for a case involving
such twists and turns,
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this is still a shocker.
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And, Eleanor, this whole idea
of Rusty Sabich representing himself,
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- what are your thoughts on that?
- Mom, this is nuts.
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[Barbara]
Don't underestimate your father, honey.
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- Not in that room.
- Mom, come on.
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Come the fuck on.
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- Honey!
- [thunder rumbles]
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[footsteps approach]
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[no audible dialogue]
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Stop! Stop. [gasps, grunts]
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[pants, sighs]
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[reporters clamoring]
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[reporter 1] Come on, this way!
This way, please!
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[sighs]
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[tap running]
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[Tommy clears throat]
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All right, I'll see you in there.
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[spectators chattering]
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Please excuse my tardiness, Your Honor.
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[monitors beeping]
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Mr. Sabich.
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Hello, Michael.
First, let me offer my deep condolences.
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I cannot imagine
the pain of losing your mom.
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You killed my mother.
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[Rusty] You used to go
to your mother's house a lot
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and just watch?
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To see her life. To see the...
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the life that she didn't want you
to be a part of.
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Yes.
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Did she ever tell you why she didn't want
you to be a part of her life?
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No.
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Did your father ever tell you
why she didn't want to?
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No.
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Well, that must have made you
pretty angry.
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Is that a fair statement?
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Not enough to kill her.
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Careful.
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- Raymond.
- I'm just watching. [chuckles]
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That's interesting, Michael,
'cause in the last few weeks of her life,
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you had a number of text exchanges
with your mother.
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Did you write her,
"It would be easier if you were dead"?
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Did you text her that?
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She didn't just hurt me.
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She hurt my father.
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{\an8}"Just really fucking mad at you.
You ruined my life."
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Did you text her that?
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You wished for her death.
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No, I said it would be easier.
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People move on from death.
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Divorce is harder.
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That's what I meant.
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Okay. Leave it there. Just-- That's good.
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[Rusty] You took this video of me
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entering your mother's house
on the night that she died,
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and you testified that
you had seen me go there before.
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So you were aware
that your mother and I were lovers.
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Yes.
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[Rusty] The idea that
she didn't want you in her life,
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but that she would have affection for me,
that didn't make you hate me at all?
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I hate you because you killed her.
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Go easy, Rusty.
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[spectators murmuring]
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So after you took this video,
what did you do?
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[Michael] I left.
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And how long after you saw me
enter her house did you leave?
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- Pretty much right away.
- And where did you go?
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I went home.
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Who was at home?
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My father.
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Just-Just the two of you?
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[Michael] Yeah.
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[Rusty] Anybody else?
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No, it was just us.
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So nobody to vouch for you but him.
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And nobody to vouch for him but you.
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- Objection.
- Overruled.
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Did you tell your father that you saw
your mother's lover go into her house?
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[Laryn]
Please answer the question, Michael.
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I don't remember if I told him anything.
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So it is possible--
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it is possible that you told your father
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that you saw your mother's lover
go into her house
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the night that she was killed?
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I don't remember telling him anything.
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There are a number of
documents that were confiscated
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by the police department on your computer.
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And it showed that you had a very keen
interest in your mother's past cases.
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You went on some true crime websites
and you were digging for information
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that wasn't available
in the mainstream media,
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including Bunny Davis.
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- Objection.
- Sustained. Ask questions, counsel.
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He's got to be careful.
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- Did you kill your mother?
- Objection!
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How about your father?
Did he kill your mother?
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- Wow.
- Tell me you have a good faith basis.
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I have grounds to accuse
neither the witness or his father.
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How could I possibly?
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After the briefest and most negligent...
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- [clamoring]
- ...of investigations by the police,
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they were both dismissed
by the state attorney's office--
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- He's out of control--
- [Tommy] Your Honor!
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For the record, did you kill your mother?
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Hey! You sick fuck!
242
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Dad!
243
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- That's enough! Enough!
- Mr. Caldwell, step back.
244
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Are you fucking serious?
245
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- [bailiff 1] Move.
- Step back, Mr. Caldwell.
246
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You're supposed to be watching him.
247
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[spectators chattering]
248
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[reporter 1] Mr. Sabich, were you scared
when Dalton Caldwell came after you?
249
00:14:39,379 --> 00:14:41,632
[reporter 2] Can the prosecution recover
from such a misstep?
250
00:14:41,632 --> 00:14:43,425
[reporter 1]
Were the Caldwells in this together?
251
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[reporter 3] Why do you think so many
loose ends weren't investigated?
252
00:15:04,613 --> 00:15:08,534
[Nico] You know, Raymond used to have
this saying when a case went south.
253
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He'd say there's medium-rare fucked,
there's medium-plus, there's well-done.
254
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I think we might be well-done fucked.
255
00:15:15,958 --> 00:15:17,042
[Tommy] He came off as desperate.
256
00:15:17,042 --> 00:15:19,086
He's pointing the finger
at everyone but himself.
257
00:15:19,086 --> 00:15:20,754
[Nico] All right. [sighs]
258
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All right. All right. Shh.
259
00:15:22,297 --> 00:15:26,844
So they established that somebody
with hatred toward Carolyn Polhemus was
260
00:15:26,844 --> 00:15:30,764
at the scene who may have known
details of the Bunny Davis case.
261
00:15:30,764 --> 00:15:32,724
They pinged Liam Reynolds
262
00:15:33,809 --> 00:15:37,062
and then the father,
who went fucking psycho.
263
00:15:37,896 --> 00:15:41,024
So we-- we-- Rigo.
264
00:15:41,024 --> 00:15:42,442
- We call fucking Rigo.
- Rigo?
265
00:15:42,442 --> 00:15:44,403
- No, Rigo is firmly in Rusty's camp.
- Yeah.
266
00:15:44,403 --> 00:15:46,363
So was Eugenia.
It's all about asking the right questions.
267
00:15:46,363 --> 00:15:48,782
- Rigo hates me.
- She doesn't hate me. I can take her.
268
00:15:48,782 --> 00:15:50,617
- No.
- Yeah.
269
00:15:50,617 --> 00:15:51,785
- Yeah. Yeah.
- No.
270
00:15:51,785 --> 00:15:53,203
No, I'll tell you why.
271
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'Cause if we don't,
272
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we're well-done
beyond-a-reasonable-doubt fucked.
273
00:16:01,295 --> 00:16:03,797
- [Rusty] What is Rigo going to say?
- [Eugenia] I don't know.
274
00:16:03,797 --> 00:16:05,799
No, come on. Bullshit.
You two are friends.
275
00:16:05,799 --> 00:16:07,968
- Just tell me what she's go--
- No, you two are friends.
276
00:16:07,968 --> 00:16:11,013
[stammers] She is gonna testify to what?
277
00:16:11,597 --> 00:16:16,059
Probably as to what I saw, Rusty,
and what I'm fucking seeing right now.
278
00:16:16,059 --> 00:16:17,019
What does that mean?
279
00:16:17,019 --> 00:16:20,480
You're fucking going rogue,
like you are right here, right now.
280
00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,232
- [Rusty] Wh--
- [sighs]
281
00:16:22,983 --> 00:16:25,652
You know I didn't want to testify, right?
282
00:16:26,486 --> 00:16:28,488
I know that you know that.
283
00:16:28,488 --> 00:16:30,407
[sighs] Oh, my God.
284
00:16:32,910 --> 00:16:34,703
Did I get this whole thing wrong?
285
00:16:37,206 --> 00:16:38,332
- Did I get--
- What do--
286
00:16:39,499 --> 00:16:40,584
Carolyn was a drug.
287
00:16:40,584 --> 00:16:43,545
You had an addiction.
Addictions destroy lives.
288
00:16:45,088 --> 00:16:47,966
God. It's one thing to destroy you,
289
00:16:47,966 --> 00:16:51,136
but you weren't about
to let her destroy your family.
290
00:16:52,554 --> 00:16:56,308
[cries] Oh, my God.
291
00:16:56,308 --> 00:16:58,018
I think she told you that night...
292
00:16:59,937 --> 00:17:02,481
that she was gonna keep the baby,
didn't she?
293
00:17:03,607 --> 00:17:08,987
Did she tell you that she was gonna keep
the baby that night?
294
00:17:09,780 --> 00:17:11,698
She was gonna keep that kid.
295
00:17:12,324 --> 00:17:14,076
- Your kid.
- Get out of my car.
296
00:17:18,664 --> 00:17:19,957
Get out of my car.
297
00:17:34,179 --> 00:17:35,389
[door closes]
298
00:17:57,661 --> 00:18:00,122
[Nico] Liam Reynolds was not involved
in Carolyn Polhemus's murder,
299
00:18:00,122 --> 00:18:02,791
and yet the two of you went back to prison
to see Liam Reynolds.
300
00:18:02,791 --> 00:18:05,502
- Is that right?
- We did.
301
00:18:06,295 --> 00:18:07,421
Why?
302
00:18:07,421 --> 00:18:10,340
[stammers] We'll let Rusty tell us.
303
00:18:13,343 --> 00:18:15,220
[Rusty]
Even if you did have Carolyn killed,
304
00:18:17,097 --> 00:18:18,473
it could work in your favor.
305
00:18:20,225 --> 00:18:24,771
You'd have to have an accomplice,
which means you'd have something to trade.
306
00:18:24,771 --> 00:18:26,982
Okay, so just imagine,
307
00:18:28,025 --> 00:18:32,070
right now, you're serving
a life sentence for killing Bunny Davis.
308
00:18:32,070 --> 00:18:33,655
But by pointing us to Carolyn,
309
00:18:33,655 --> 00:18:36,366
you could possibly see
the street again, you know?
310
00:18:36,366 --> 00:18:39,328
Or even if you had a hand
in the murder too.
311
00:18:39,828 --> 00:18:41,705
Now that-- that is perversity.
312
00:18:41,705 --> 00:18:47,336
So-- So, uh, just to be clear, uh,
you're telling me incriminating myself...
313
00:18:47,336 --> 00:18:49,087
- If you had an accomplice.
- ...in a prosecutor's murder,
314
00:18:49,087 --> 00:18:51,256
- could lead to my freedom?
- [Rusty] Yes.
315
00:18:51,757 --> 00:18:56,428
What's certain is that you are currently
serving a life sentence without parole.
316
00:18:56,929 --> 00:18:59,598
And I am offering you an
opportunity to change that.
317
00:19:01,683 --> 00:19:04,686
Oh, God. [chuckles]
318
00:19:06,772 --> 00:19:08,232
This is beautiful.
319
00:19:08,899 --> 00:19:11,818
No! God Almighty.
320
00:19:13,737 --> 00:19:18,075
I just-- I had no fucking idea.
321
00:19:18,700 --> 00:19:20,160
[Reynolds] You're desperate.
322
00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:25,457
[Nico] A reduced sentence in return for
confessing to Carolyn Polhemus's murder.
323
00:19:26,375 --> 00:19:28,836
I wasn't present.
I didn't know he was gonna do that.
324
00:19:28,836 --> 00:19:30,254
Did you take issue
with this attempted bribe?
325
00:19:30,254 --> 00:19:31,296
Objection!
326
00:19:31,296 --> 00:19:32,339
- Sustained.
- [Nico] I apologize.
327
00:19:32,339 --> 00:19:35,384
Did you take issue with this approach?
328
00:19:36,134 --> 00:19:40,472
I did. When he told me what happened,
I said I thought he way crossed the line.
329
00:19:40,472 --> 00:19:41,557
Yeah.
330
00:19:43,517 --> 00:19:44,852
And did he respond?
331
00:19:47,855 --> 00:19:49,815
Yeah, he said something to the effect of--
332
00:19:49,815 --> 00:19:53,026
It's my life on the line.
I'll do whatever I have to.
333
00:19:53,610 --> 00:19:54,528
What a hero.
334
00:19:54,528 --> 00:19:56,822
When you were first assigned this case
by the defendant,
335
00:19:56,822 --> 00:20:00,826
were you given any particular directives
as to the collection of evidence?
336
00:20:01,994 --> 00:20:06,540
All evidence, forensics and otherwise,
was to go straight to him and only him.
337
00:20:06,540 --> 00:20:08,584
And were you given
any particular directives
338
00:20:08,584 --> 00:20:10,377
as to whom the evidence
339
00:20:10,377 --> 00:20:13,881
and the forensics and otherwise
should be particularly shielded from?
340
00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,133
Mr. Molto and you.
341
00:20:17,718 --> 00:20:19,011
[Nico] That's disappointing.
342
00:20:24,308 --> 00:20:25,309
Your witness.
343
00:20:27,561 --> 00:20:28,562
[clears throat]
344
00:20:34,943 --> 00:20:35,944
Here we go.
345
00:20:36,445 --> 00:20:40,824
I was desperate to prove my innocence,
at all times,
346
00:20:40,824 --> 00:20:43,076
of charges that I felt wrongly accused of.
347
00:20:43,076 --> 00:20:44,286
Is that a fair statement?
348
00:20:45,078 --> 00:20:46,079
Okay.
349
00:20:46,079 --> 00:20:48,665
And I steadfastly maintained my innocence
350
00:20:48,665 --> 00:20:51,502
in the death of Carolyn Polhemus
at all times.
351
00:20:52,461 --> 00:20:54,129
- Did I not?
- You did.
352
00:20:55,672 --> 00:20:59,635
And in your experience, Detective,
is it unusual for a prosecutor to ask you
353
00:20:59,635 --> 00:21:01,637
to keep information
between the two of them?
354
00:21:02,596 --> 00:21:04,139
In my experience, no, it's not.
355
00:21:06,099 --> 00:21:11,271
And you're aware that I asked you
to keep the evidence between the two of us
356
00:21:11,271 --> 00:21:13,357
precisely because I did not trust
357
00:21:13,357 --> 00:21:16,777
that Mr. Molto or Mr. Della Guardia
would conduct a fair investigation.
358
00:21:16,777 --> 00:21:18,737
Is that also a fair statement?
359
00:21:20,239 --> 00:21:21,156
Yes.
360
00:21:24,868 --> 00:21:25,869
Thank you.
361
00:22:03,949 --> 00:22:05,951
[panting]
362
00:22:09,788 --> 00:22:11,790
- [Barbara] Hi.
- Hey.
363
00:22:13,208 --> 00:22:14,835
[Barbara sighs]
364
00:22:22,217 --> 00:22:23,218
How are you doing?
365
00:22:25,345 --> 00:22:28,348
[panting] Yeah, you know...
[stammers] ...they--
366
00:22:28,348 --> 00:22:30,934
they pulled up two witnesses
to assert my--
367
00:22:30,934 --> 00:22:35,856
And I was a little too zealous
in my assertion of my innocence.
368
00:22:35,856 --> 00:22:38,525
You know, whatever.
So what? Case is still good. We're good.
369
00:22:38,525 --> 00:22:40,652
- [pants]
- You went back to using these?
370
00:22:40,652 --> 00:22:42,988
[panting]
371
00:22:44,114 --> 00:22:44,948
[Barbara] Hmm?
372
00:22:47,576 --> 00:22:48,744
I mean, I need to focus.
373
00:22:51,872 --> 00:22:54,499
How am I supposed to do that, huh?
374
00:22:57,294 --> 00:22:58,295
Mmm.
375
00:23:05,594 --> 00:23:08,388
[sighs] You just should've told me, Rusty.
376
00:23:11,433 --> 00:23:14,061
[sighs, panting]
377
00:23:40,212 --> 00:23:43,215
[all cheering, chuckling]
378
00:23:43,215 --> 00:23:46,468
- So good. So good. [chuckles] Yeah.
- [chuckles] Oh, yeah. Thank you.
379
00:23:59,439 --> 00:24:00,524
All rise.
380
00:24:01,733 --> 00:24:03,360
The court is now in session.
381
00:24:03,944 --> 00:24:06,113
The honorable Judge Lyttle presiding.
382
00:24:06,780 --> 00:24:08,115
Be seated.
383
00:24:11,743 --> 00:24:13,161
Okay then, Mr. Molto.
384
00:24:13,161 --> 00:24:14,746
Does the State have anything else?
385
00:24:14,746 --> 00:24:15,956
[Tommy] Yes, Your Honor.
386
00:24:19,751 --> 00:24:21,461
The People call Rusty Sabich.
387
00:24:21,461 --> 00:24:22,963
[people gasping, murmuring]
388
00:24:24,006 --> 00:24:25,048
[gavel raps]
389
00:24:29,303 --> 00:24:30,762
What the fuck was that?
390
00:24:31,555 --> 00:24:35,184
Well, since Mr. Sabich insisted
on testifying through Detective Rodriguez,
391
00:24:35,184 --> 00:24:37,311
it's only fair that he be sworn in
and subjected to cross.
392
00:24:37,311 --> 00:24:38,770
I didn't hear an objection.
393
00:24:38,770 --> 00:24:41,356
I didn't feel the need to,
as the court made it very clear
394
00:24:41,356 --> 00:24:43,108
if the defendant even hinted
at his version--
395
00:24:43,108 --> 00:24:44,234
[stammers] No, I did not testify.
396
00:24:44,234 --> 00:24:45,944
I cross-examined a witness
that you called.
397
00:24:45,944 --> 00:24:47,863
But you went beyond the scope
of our direct.
398
00:24:47,863 --> 00:24:49,239
You asserted your innocence.
399
00:24:49,239 --> 00:24:50,574
[Rusty] You called the witness
400
00:24:50,574 --> 00:24:53,827
and you called the detective
to establish my guilt and my dishonesty,
401
00:24:53,827 --> 00:24:55,704
and my cross went
to my truthfulness and innocence,
402
00:24:55,704 --> 00:24:58,081
well within my scope of direct.
403
00:24:58,749 --> 00:24:59,917
You gave your version.
404
00:25:01,793 --> 00:25:04,963
I warned you, should you even introduce
even a morsel
405
00:25:04,963 --> 00:25:06,840
of something that's not in evidence...
406
00:25:07,841 --> 00:25:09,092
You did exactly that.
407
00:25:11,053 --> 00:25:14,640
All right, you got two choices.
408
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,350
You want a mistrial, I'll give you one.
409
00:25:16,975 --> 00:25:18,185
No questions asked.
410
00:25:18,769 --> 00:25:22,147
I won't force you to go on.
But if we do go on, you get in that chair.
411
00:25:23,482 --> 00:25:25,317
You opened the door on this.
412
00:25:28,487 --> 00:25:30,072
Take the mistrial, Rusty.
413
00:25:43,794 --> 00:25:44,878
I'll testify.
414
00:25:52,636 --> 00:25:54,888
- Mya. Mya, they wanted a mistrial.
- The fuck was that?
415
00:25:54,888 --> 00:25:56,390
- [stammers] No.
- They know they're losing.
416
00:25:56,390 --> 00:25:58,308
- That's why they called me!
- Maybe, maybe.
417
00:25:58,308 --> 00:26:00,102
Or maybe they wanted to get you
on the stand,
418
00:26:00,102 --> 00:26:01,562
where you'll be an easy fucking target.
419
00:26:01,562 --> 00:26:03,146
Fine, put me in the witness chair.
420
00:26:03,146 --> 00:26:05,732
Fine. Let's have Molto's narcissism
421
00:26:05,732 --> 00:26:07,150
- on full display.
- Why? [sighs]
422
00:26:07,150 --> 00:26:08,193
And yours won't?
423
00:26:08,193 --> 00:26:10,070
What is that supposed to mean?
424
00:26:10,737 --> 00:26:12,239
Did you-- Did you do it on purpose?
425
00:26:12,239 --> 00:26:14,908
[breathes shakily] What?
426
00:26:14,908 --> 00:26:16,159
Open the door.
427
00:26:16,159 --> 00:26:17,995
- What do you think--
- You introduced testimony.
428
00:26:17,995 --> 00:26:19,580
- Did you do it on purpose?
- No--
429
00:26:19,580 --> 00:26:21,290
[stammers] Why would I do that?
430
00:26:21,290 --> 00:26:24,877
'Cause you're Rusty Sabich,
and you can do whatever you want, right?
431
00:26:24,877 --> 00:26:28,005
Mya, maybe-- just maybe--
432
00:26:28,005 --> 00:26:31,341
I did it because I know
what the fuck I'm doing. [scoffs]
433
00:26:31,341 --> 00:26:33,886
I don't think so.
434
00:26:36,847 --> 00:26:38,182
I'm done.
435
00:26:40,517 --> 00:26:41,518
[sighs]
436
00:26:48,483 --> 00:26:52,237
{\an8}So, Rusty Sabich is expected to
take the stand in his own defense,
437
00:26:52,237 --> 00:26:56,783
{\an8}which means that he'll not only be
a defendant, he'll be an advocate.
438
00:26:56,783 --> 00:26:58,493
He's also gonna be a witness as well.
439
00:26:58,493 --> 00:26:59,578
What?
440
00:26:59,578 --> 00:27:02,122
[Rae] He is not going to be
having a second chair,
441
00:27:02,122 --> 00:27:04,208
which means
that he is going to be flying solo.
442
00:27:04,791 --> 00:27:07,377
{\an8}A lot resting
on his shoulders in this trial.
443
00:27:08,462 --> 00:27:11,882
[anchor] It feels like Sabich has really
found himself backed into a corner.
444
00:27:11,882 --> 00:27:13,634
And I don't know if anything short
of a miracle...
445
00:27:13,634 --> 00:27:14,676
Oh, God, Rusty.
446
00:27:14,676 --> 00:27:16,887
...is going to be able to get him out of it.
447
00:27:16,887 --> 00:27:17,971
In other news--
448
00:27:17,971 --> 00:27:19,473
[Jaden] Pills. What kind of pills?
449
00:27:19,473 --> 00:27:21,850
- [Kyle] He's taking Ritalin.
- Are you serious?
450
00:27:21,850 --> 00:27:25,687
Yeah, I heard Mom on the phone
with her therapist,
451
00:27:25,687 --> 00:27:28,232
and I guess he's taken it
before for big trials.
452
00:27:29,608 --> 00:27:30,901
Makes him sharper.
453
00:27:31,985 --> 00:27:32,945
Yeah.
454
00:27:32,945 --> 00:27:37,449
And he's taking it now
before he testifies tomorrow?
455
00:27:38,033 --> 00:27:39,535
Yeah, it's fucking stupid.
456
00:27:52,005 --> 00:27:54,091
Is it possible to, um,
457
00:27:54,091 --> 00:27:59,680
have some of that Rusty Sabich,
um, fairy dust?
458
00:28:00,264 --> 00:28:05,477
I-I don't know if it's--
if it's something I can, uh, give you.
459
00:28:05,978 --> 00:28:07,479
[chuckles]
460
00:28:23,912 --> 00:28:26,999
...of course I wanted to talk to her,
but I swear nothing happened...
461
00:28:40,345 --> 00:28:42,723
I needed to see her
and tell her that it was--
462
00:28:42,723 --> 00:28:43,807
that it was over.
463
00:28:45,642 --> 00:28:51,190
I needed her to know that--
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
464
00:28:59,990 --> 00:29:02,284
Please tell me you didn't
spend the whole night here.
465
00:29:03,035 --> 00:29:04,453
No, I came in early.
466
00:29:06,038 --> 00:29:08,207
All right. You, uh-- You ready?
467
00:29:08,874 --> 00:29:10,709
Yeah, I'm ready.
468
00:29:10,709 --> 00:29:12,794
[chuckles] Great.
469
00:29:12,794 --> 00:29:14,796
So, big day.
470
00:29:16,590 --> 00:29:19,009
I was just thinking about law school
and how hard we worked.
471
00:29:19,009 --> 00:29:23,180
- [chuckles]
- Yeah, just give me one day, Nico.
472
00:29:23,180 --> 00:29:25,432
One day,
when I can just say it was all worth it.
473
00:29:26,725 --> 00:29:28,227
Today is that day, Tommy.
474
00:29:31,605 --> 00:29:33,815
[podcaster 1] It is like Crime Junkie 101.
475
00:29:33,815 --> 00:29:37,027
You don't take the stand
in your own defense.
476
00:29:37,027 --> 00:29:39,530
[podcaster 2] Well, he didn't, right?
The prosecution called him...
477
00:29:39,530 --> 00:29:42,991
[host 1] How do you represent yourself
without looking like a schizophrenic?
478
00:29:42,991 --> 00:29:45,160
[hosts continue, indistinct]
479
00:29:46,119 --> 00:29:49,498
[host 2] Something that could create doubt
in the minds of the jury.
480
00:29:53,085 --> 00:29:56,129
[winces, sighs]
481
00:30:23,824 --> 00:30:25,117
[phone rings]
482
00:30:25,826 --> 00:30:27,619
Oh, fuck.
483
00:30:31,373 --> 00:30:33,083
[sighs]
484
00:30:33,083 --> 00:30:34,168
[sniffs]
485
00:30:36,086 --> 00:30:37,045
[Mya] Hey.
486
00:30:39,339 --> 00:30:40,591
Hello, Mya.
487
00:30:40,591 --> 00:30:41,675
Good luck today.
488
00:30:41,675 --> 00:30:45,804
I just wanted to say the key
is to not let him rattle you,
489
00:30:45,804 --> 00:30:47,222
which will be his intent.
490
00:30:47,222 --> 00:30:50,225
To get you to flare.
You can't take the bait.
491
00:30:51,143 --> 00:30:52,686
Thank you, Mya.
492
00:30:52,686 --> 00:30:54,938
Am I allowed to give more general advice?
493
00:30:55,439 --> 00:30:56,899
Can I say that I'm sorry first?
494
00:30:58,525 --> 00:30:59,776
Apology accepted.
495
00:31:00,861 --> 00:31:02,487
Maybe you were right.
496
00:31:03,989 --> 00:31:04,990
I'm always right.
497
00:31:06,074 --> 00:31:08,535
Don't let him let you be an asshole.
498
00:31:09,328 --> 00:31:12,581
It would not be good
for the jury to see you in that light.
499
00:31:12,581 --> 00:31:14,082
[breathes heavily]
500
00:31:15,667 --> 00:31:17,294
[Mya] Don't cede to them on anything.
501
00:31:18,712 --> 00:31:20,589
- [Mya] I'll be there, Rusty.
- Okay, someone's here.
502
00:31:20,589 --> 00:31:22,549
- Um, I gotta go. Thank you, Mya.
- [Mya] Okay.
503
00:31:23,383 --> 00:31:24,384
Hey.
504
00:31:25,552 --> 00:31:27,930
- What are you doing here?
- Doctors cleared me.
505
00:31:29,056 --> 00:31:30,140
You need me.
506
00:31:30,140 --> 00:31:32,601
Are you sure that it's safe
to be in the courtroom?
507
00:31:32,601 --> 00:31:35,812
Really. Doctors, they say I'm good. You?
508
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:42,236
Yeah.
509
00:31:44,696 --> 00:31:46,698
Do you swear to tell the truth,
the whole truth
510
00:31:46,698 --> 00:31:48,575
and nothing but the truth,
so help you God?
511
00:31:48,575 --> 00:31:49,993
- I do.
- Have a seat.
512
00:32:02,172 --> 00:32:03,173
[Tommy sniffs]
513
00:32:07,427 --> 00:32:08,762
Mr. Sabich...
514
00:32:10,889 --> 00:32:13,100
you stated that
you maintained your innocence
515
00:32:13,100 --> 00:32:15,143
at all times with Detective Rodriguez.
516
00:32:15,894 --> 00:32:17,437
- Correct.
- And that was truthful?
517
00:32:18,105 --> 00:32:18,939
It was.
518
00:32:18,939 --> 00:32:20,691
You were truthful with her
about everything?
519
00:32:20,691 --> 00:32:23,569
I did not disclose
my relationship with the victim.
520
00:32:24,152 --> 00:32:25,195
Did you disclose to her
521
00:32:25,195 --> 00:32:27,447
that you were present
at the victim's house on the night of?
522
00:32:28,156 --> 00:32:30,742
- Eventually.
- Eventually?
523
00:32:30,742 --> 00:32:33,412
So when you first assigned this case
to Detective Rodriguez
524
00:32:33,412 --> 00:32:36,790
in your capacity
as Chief Deputy Prosecutor,
525
00:32:36,790 --> 00:32:41,128
did you tell her that you were present
at the scene of the crime on the night of?
526
00:32:41,128 --> 00:32:42,212
I did not.
527
00:32:42,963 --> 00:32:45,591
Did you tell anyone
that was connected to the case?
528
00:32:45,591 --> 00:32:46,717
I did not kill her.
529
00:32:46,717 --> 00:32:49,887
Are the first 48 hours the most important
in any investigation?
530
00:32:49,887 --> 00:32:52,014
And would it have been helpful
for the police
531
00:32:52,014 --> 00:32:54,683
and the investigatory team
to just know that you were there?
532
00:32:54,683 --> 00:32:55,809
You made your point, Tommy.
533
00:32:56,393 --> 00:32:57,769
I did not disclose my presence.
534
00:32:57,769 --> 00:33:00,439
- Were you in love with her?
- I fell in love with her.
535
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,734
[Tommy] Is it fair to say
you were obsessed with her?
536
00:33:03,734 --> 00:33:06,570
I was in love with her.
As to what qualifies as obsession--
537
00:33:06,570 --> 00:33:09,364
Sending 30 texts or emails
on or near the day of her death.
538
00:33:09,364 --> 00:33:11,158
- Would that qualify?
- I was in love with her.
539
00:33:11,158 --> 00:33:14,912
On the night of her death, you went there
hoping that she would take you back?
540
00:33:16,038 --> 00:33:16,872
I did.
541
00:33:16,872 --> 00:33:20,334
Did you send these texts
in the hours before her death?
542
00:33:20,334 --> 00:33:22,336
[Tommy] "This is not right.
You can't do this.
543
00:33:22,336 --> 00:33:25,464
I'll not let you treat me this way.
Answer my fucking calls."
544
00:33:25,464 --> 00:33:26,798
- You sent those?
- I did.
545
00:33:26,798 --> 00:33:28,217
And how about this one?
546
00:33:29,218 --> 00:33:31,094
"I want to spend
the rest of my life with you."
547
00:33:34,014 --> 00:33:35,432
Did you send Carolyn that text?
548
00:33:35,432 --> 00:33:37,476
Did you tell her you wanted to
spend the rest of your life with her?
549
00:33:37,476 --> 00:33:38,435
I was in love with her.
550
00:33:38,435 --> 00:33:40,896
- Were you angry with her?
- I was frustrated.
551
00:33:40,896 --> 00:33:42,814
Mmm. Frustrated, like this text?
552
00:33:44,316 --> 00:33:45,609
[Tommy] "Answer my fucking calls.
553
00:33:45,609 --> 00:33:47,861
{\an8}Who the fuck do you think you are,
treating me this way?"
554
00:33:47,861 --> 00:33:50,030
Is that frustration
or would that qualify as anger?
555
00:33:50,030 --> 00:33:51,990
It would qualify as passion.
556
00:33:53,033 --> 00:33:54,451
And passion can blind a person.
557
00:33:54,952 --> 00:33:57,663
And I certainly lost sight of the things
that were most important in my life.
558
00:33:57,663 --> 00:33:59,706
My-- My wife and my children.
559
00:34:01,375 --> 00:34:03,293
Passion is a dangerous drug.
560
00:34:03,293 --> 00:34:05,546
One that you're not immune to yourself,
Tommy.
561
00:34:06,588 --> 00:34:09,132
So consumed with trying to take me down
562
00:34:09,132 --> 00:34:13,011
that you have lost sight of the fact
that you have no real evidence.
563
00:34:13,011 --> 00:34:14,929
Yes, I was in love with her.
564
00:34:15,597 --> 00:34:20,686
Yes, I did not disclose my presence,
but I did not kill her.
565
00:34:21,853 --> 00:34:25,148
- Did you strike her with a fire poker?
- I never hit her.
566
00:34:25,148 --> 00:34:26,483
I am not a violent person.
567
00:34:28,694 --> 00:34:30,987
[Tommy] Mr. Ratzer,
could you please stand?
568
00:34:35,242 --> 00:34:36,827
Have you ever encountered
this person before?
569
00:34:36,827 --> 00:34:38,370
There is a context to that.
570
00:34:38,370 --> 00:34:41,623
This is footage
from the adjacent house to yours.
571
00:34:42,165 --> 00:34:43,542
The two of you, correct?
572
00:34:47,963 --> 00:34:50,632
[Tommy] Does that fairly
and accurately capture the context?
573
00:34:51,132 --> 00:34:52,801
Your Honor, this is unfair surprise.
574
00:34:52,801 --> 00:34:54,011
Offer to impeach.
575
00:34:54,011 --> 00:34:57,139
The witness just testified
that he's not violent.
576
00:34:58,140 --> 00:34:59,224
I'll allow it.
577
00:35:01,268 --> 00:35:04,813
He came to my house uninvited.
578
00:35:06,023 --> 00:35:08,275
He trespassed and he intimidated me.
579
00:35:09,902 --> 00:35:10,986
So you beat him up?
580
00:35:12,029 --> 00:35:14,072
I am guilty of acting out of desperation.
581
00:35:14,823 --> 00:35:17,409
It caused me to hide
my relationship with Carolyn Polhemus.
582
00:35:17,409 --> 00:35:19,703
It caused me to zealously pursue
583
00:35:19,703 --> 00:35:21,747
an admission from Liam Reynolds
in her death.
584
00:35:21,747 --> 00:35:23,624
It caused me to lash out at Brian Ratzer.
585
00:35:23,624 --> 00:35:25,083
By the way, when he came to my house
586
00:35:25,083 --> 00:35:28,378
and he violently banged on my door
when my daughter answered.
587
00:35:28,378 --> 00:35:31,548
Am I volatile? Yes. Yes, I'm volatile.
588
00:35:31,548 --> 00:35:35,093
A person I loved was brutally murdered.
And I have been charged with that crime.
589
00:35:35,093 --> 00:35:37,596
And circumstances like that
can bring out, uh,
590
00:35:37,596 --> 00:35:42,601
many things in a person,
desperation being one of them.
591
00:35:42,601 --> 00:35:45,771
Uh, weakness, emotional instability.
592
00:35:46,438 --> 00:35:48,482
And I apologize for all of those things.
593
00:35:48,482 --> 00:35:51,443
I am guilty of all of those things.
594
00:35:51,443 --> 00:35:55,239
But what I am not guilty of
is killing Carolyn Polhemus.
595
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:56,698
I did not take her life.
596
00:35:59,701 --> 00:36:02,371
Yeah. What about Dr. Kumagai?
597
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,126
Did you ever try to strangle
our chief medical examiner?
598
00:36:11,380 --> 00:36:12,631
[sighs]
599
00:36:18,011 --> 00:36:20,305
- You want me to repeat the question?
- No, I heard the question.
600
00:36:20,305 --> 00:36:26,144
It was brought to my attention that
he had concealed evidence in another case.
601
00:36:26,144 --> 00:36:29,314
Uh, I mean, or at least
improperly failed to make me aware of it.
602
00:36:29,314 --> 00:36:33,861
And so things got heated
between the two of us and, um...
603
00:36:36,613 --> 00:36:38,657
I regretfully got phys-- physical.
604
00:36:38,657 --> 00:36:40,325
You regretfully tried to choke him.
605
00:36:40,325 --> 00:36:41,660
No, I did not choke him.
606
00:36:41,660 --> 00:36:42,744
Okay, when tempers flared
607
00:36:42,744 --> 00:36:44,580
- and you grabbed him by the throat--
- By the lapel.
608
00:36:44,580 --> 00:36:47,207
Okay, when tempers flared
and you grabbed him by the lapel,
609
00:36:47,207 --> 00:36:49,626
did you decide to do that
or did you just snap?
610
00:36:51,712 --> 00:36:52,963
I'm not sure what the question is.
611
00:36:52,963 --> 00:36:55,591
Did you decide to do that
or did you just snap?
612
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,095
How about Mr. Ratzer, when you repeatedly
punched him as we saw in the video?
613
00:37:00,095 --> 00:37:02,222
Did you decide to do that
or did you just snap?
614
00:37:02,931 --> 00:37:04,141
He would not leave.
615
00:37:05,475 --> 00:37:07,811
What would you do? What would you do?
616
00:37:11,064 --> 00:37:12,399
So you snapped.
617
00:37:21,158 --> 00:37:24,786
[reporters clamoring] Tommy, over here!
618
00:37:27,998 --> 00:37:31,251
[Nico] Hey, look at me. Look at me.
619
00:37:32,503 --> 00:37:33,921
That was extraordinary.
620
00:37:46,892 --> 00:37:48,393
[Rusty] This is torture.
621
00:37:49,770 --> 00:37:51,605
It's fucking torture.
622
00:37:52,481 --> 00:37:55,275
I just spend all my days
lying to my family.
623
00:37:59,154 --> 00:38:02,199
When I'm-- When I'm with them,
all I wanna do is be with you.
624
00:38:06,703 --> 00:38:07,871
[footsteps approach]
625
00:38:18,006 --> 00:38:21,844
[inhales heavily]
The rest of your life, huh?
626
00:38:26,598 --> 00:38:28,100
I don't remember writing that.
627
00:38:28,100 --> 00:38:29,434
Just a line?
628
00:38:35,774 --> 00:38:37,317
Dare I ask, what now?
629
00:39:11,852 --> 00:39:13,562
[rustling]
630
00:39:59,358 --> 00:40:00,400
[meows]
631
00:40:10,285 --> 00:40:13,455
- [meows]
- [shushes] Hey.