1 00:00:17,142 --> 00:00:18,768 This is the crime scene. 2 00:00:21,312 --> 00:00:24,065 Do you get the feeling of anything come through? 3 00:00:28,737 --> 00:00:29,696 Yeah. 4 00:00:32,407 --> 00:00:33,491 It's overwhelming. 5 00:00:35,368 --> 00:00:36,244 Whoo. 6 00:00:48,131 --> 00:00:50,467 The mother of the victim is grieving. 7 00:00:50,550 --> 00:00:53,094 She lost her son in a horrific way. 8 00:00:53,595 --> 00:00:56,681 She deserves to have the answer as to what happened. 9 00:00:57,390 --> 00:01:00,518 My goal is to be able to give her clarification and answers 10 00:01:00,602 --> 00:01:04,397 in a way that allows her to move forward with a sense of healing. 11 00:01:04,939 --> 00:01:07,609 This is coming through as a hit-and-run feeling to me. 12 00:01:08,610 --> 00:01:11,696 I don't feel it happened somewhere else, and he was dumped here. 13 00:01:11,780 --> 00:01:13,031 It's not that kind of thing. 14 00:01:24,125 --> 00:01:26,795 I feel like I'm almost on the verge of a panic attack. 15 00:01:28,505 --> 00:01:31,591 And with all of the traffic and whooshing by me, 16 00:01:31,674 --> 00:01:36,096 it felt like I was taken back to the time that he passed. 17 00:01:37,764 --> 00:01:38,640 Whoo. 18 00:01:40,100 --> 00:01:41,101 Yeah. Whoo. 19 00:01:46,481 --> 00:01:48,566 I wonder if he was listening to music 20 00:01:48,650 --> 00:01:51,361 'cause I feel distracted, is the way I can describe it. 21 00:01:51,444 --> 00:01:54,906 -Yes. Right. -So I'll have to probably ask Mom. 22 00:01:54,989 --> 00:01:57,742 If he had a habit of listening to music when he would walk. 23 00:02:00,328 --> 00:02:03,164 What I do know for sure is this person knows they did it. 24 00:02:03,748 --> 00:02:07,001 So the person who hit him, it would've been extremely obvious. 25 00:02:07,085 --> 00:02:09,045 While it feels accidental, 26 00:02:09,129 --> 00:02:13,424 I feel like the person who did this had zero regard for his life. 27 00:02:13,508 --> 00:02:15,844 And had no problem just continuing on. 28 00:02:15,927 --> 00:02:17,220 Which is hateful. 29 00:02:17,303 --> 00:02:20,557 It's extremely hateful. There's a feeling of, "I don't pull over." 30 00:02:20,640 --> 00:02:22,350 -Right. -"I don't even care." 31 00:02:25,311 --> 00:02:27,647 Uh, but this information, it's very helpful. 32 00:02:27,730 --> 00:02:29,816 -I'm gonna be able to talk to Mom. -Absolutely. 33 00:02:29,899 --> 00:02:32,569 -And see what else comes through. -That would be great. 34 00:02:32,652 --> 00:02:34,195 Thank you for taking me here. 35 00:02:41,411 --> 00:02:45,165 In going to see Aaron's mom, my hope is to really connect with her son 36 00:02:45,248 --> 00:02:47,876 in a way that's different than at the crime scene. 37 00:02:47,959 --> 00:02:49,586 This is a grieving mother, 38 00:02:49,669 --> 00:02:53,506 and despite the mysterious circumstances that led to her son's passing, 39 00:02:53,590 --> 00:02:54,674 she needs help. 40 00:02:54,757 --> 00:02:57,886 She needs validation and she needs a sense of reconnection. 41 00:03:07,896 --> 00:03:09,814 -I'll let you know what happens. -Okay. 42 00:03:09,898 --> 00:03:11,399 -I'll see you shortly. -Thank you. 43 00:03:11,482 --> 00:03:12,609 Thank you. 44 00:03:20,742 --> 00:03:25,079 The reason I hired Robin is that there's never gonna be a closure for me. 45 00:03:25,163 --> 00:03:27,290 But I need peace. I need justice. 46 00:03:27,373 --> 00:03:29,959 I need people who actually did this, a part of it… 47 00:03:32,337 --> 00:03:35,882 to man up and be accountable for what they did. 48 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,219 -Oh! 49 00:03:46,059 --> 00:03:48,186 Hello! I'm Tyler. 50 00:03:48,269 --> 00:03:49,479 Oh! 51 00:03:50,063 --> 00:03:51,231 How's it goin'? 52 00:03:51,981 --> 00:03:53,066 -Oh! 53 00:03:53,149 --> 00:03:56,945 It's okay. It's okay. Give me a hug. I know. 54 00:03:57,028 --> 00:04:00,490 -No way. -I know. It's overwhelming. 55 00:04:00,990 --> 00:04:02,867 It's okay. How are you? 56 00:04:02,951 --> 00:04:05,495 -Oh my gosh. -It's nice to meet you. 57 00:04:05,578 --> 00:04:08,289 I know this is overwhelming. It is all okay. 58 00:04:08,373 --> 00:04:09,832 -All okay. -I gotta sit down. 59 00:04:09,916 --> 00:04:11,292 -Let's sit down. -Oh my gosh. 60 00:04:11,376 --> 00:04:15,004 Absolutely. We can sit here, yeah. We'll get you all comfortable. 61 00:04:15,088 --> 00:04:16,589 I'm happy to be here with you. 62 00:04:17,173 --> 00:04:18,174 Thank you so much. 63 00:04:18,258 --> 00:04:21,886 Sometimes people do bring objects or want me to hold onto objects. 64 00:04:21,970 --> 00:04:23,179 -Do you have any? -Yes. 65 00:04:23,263 --> 00:04:25,223 -If you don't mind grabbing 'em. -Okay. 66 00:04:28,768 --> 00:04:32,855 -Oh, amazing. I love it. Very cool. -They're ties. 67 00:04:33,398 --> 00:04:35,400 Thank you. Beautiful. 68 00:04:35,483 --> 00:04:38,736 I'll just put these here, and I may hold onto them at various times, 69 00:04:38,820 --> 00:04:40,780 just to kind of help make a connection, but… 70 00:04:41,322 --> 00:04:43,533 -We will see what comes in. -Okay. 71 00:04:43,616 --> 00:04:46,744 Just to let you know, 'cause I know you're not aware of much of 72 00:04:46,828 --> 00:04:47,787 what I did earlier, 73 00:04:47,870 --> 00:04:51,082 but I went to the scene of where your son passed. 74 00:04:51,165 --> 00:04:53,793 I'm so sorry that you had to experience that. 75 00:04:53,876 --> 00:04:56,713 I went trying to see if I could get any impressions, 76 00:04:56,796 --> 00:04:58,256 and I felt so much love. 77 00:04:58,339 --> 00:05:01,467 He is so much more than what happened to him, you know. 78 00:05:02,385 --> 00:05:05,930 So I do have to talk about a number of people coming in today. 79 00:05:06,014 --> 00:05:07,265 Yes, sir. 80 00:05:07,849 --> 00:05:10,184 When I'm connecting on your mom's side, 81 00:05:10,268 --> 00:05:13,771 I have a number of people from her side of family, all barging in, 82 00:05:13,855 --> 00:05:17,817 and they're together, and they're happy, and they're with your son. 83 00:05:18,401 --> 00:05:21,237 This might sound weird, but are there any instances 84 00:05:21,321 --> 00:05:26,409 within your mom's side of family where a woman's name got repeated? 85 00:05:27,869 --> 00:05:29,787 -There's two "I" names. 86 00:05:29,871 --> 00:05:32,749 Are there two "I" names that we know of? 87 00:05:33,499 --> 00:05:34,876 Can you tell me what they are? 88 00:05:34,959 --> 00:05:36,836 -Iris. -Okay. And then? 89 00:05:36,919 --> 00:05:37,795 Iris. 90 00:05:39,464 --> 00:05:41,841 -Iris and Iris. -Oh, Iris and Iris. Double-- 91 00:05:41,924 --> 00:05:43,634 That's why I'm seeing double "I." 92 00:05:43,718 --> 00:05:46,471 -It's weird. They're implied differently. -Oh my God. 93 00:05:50,141 --> 00:05:53,186 There's a couple things. I was getting a double-eight connection. 94 00:05:53,269 --> 00:05:58,066 -It's okay, but there's eights. 95 00:05:58,149 --> 00:05:59,984 I'm seeing eights over and over again. 96 00:06:00,068 --> 00:06:03,071 It usually refers to either eight the age, 97 00:06:03,154 --> 00:06:06,741 eight the number, but it can also refer, weirdly, to the month of August 98 00:06:06,824 --> 00:06:08,826 within the family, as being important. 99 00:06:08,910 --> 00:06:13,373 -Does that make sense? Okay. -Yes, sir. 8-8-95, Aaron was born. 100 00:06:13,456 --> 00:06:17,835 I see eights all the time. All the time. 101 00:06:17,919 --> 00:06:20,671 -If I'm driving, eight, eight, eight. -Yeah. 102 00:06:21,381 --> 00:06:22,757 He's coming across. 103 00:06:22,840 --> 00:06:25,927 He's trying to make me laugh when he's coming in. 104 00:06:26,010 --> 00:06:28,596 Giving funny faces, and when he comes through, 105 00:06:28,679 --> 00:06:31,474 there's this feeling of just such joy. 106 00:06:31,557 --> 00:06:33,142 -Gives me a smile. -That's my son. 107 00:06:33,226 --> 00:06:34,894 -It looks like your smile. -Yes! 108 00:06:34,977 --> 00:06:37,605 There's a feeling of, if he could look like anybody, 109 00:06:37,688 --> 00:06:41,776 he wanted to look like you. He's like, "If I'm gonna resemble anyone, 110 00:06:41,859 --> 00:06:44,821 what an honor to be able to look like my mom." 111 00:06:44,904 --> 00:06:46,739 -That's my baby. -Yeah. 112 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,410 He also comes through with the feeling of never being able to, like, 113 00:06:50,493 --> 00:06:52,662 "I'm not someone who would hurt a fly." Very much. 114 00:06:52,745 --> 00:06:55,581 He's even joking me with, he may have saved some animals. 115 00:06:55,665 --> 00:06:58,543 He loves, he loves… We have a little cat, Hippie. 116 00:06:58,626 --> 00:07:00,211 -Yeah. -He loves Hippie. 117 00:07:00,294 --> 00:07:03,214 -He would take care of her. -Absolutely. 118 00:07:03,297 --> 00:07:05,383 But we rescued two dogs, 119 00:07:05,466 --> 00:07:08,052 then went and got the third 'cause it was a brother. 120 00:07:08,136 --> 00:07:09,429 -So yeah. -Yeah. 121 00:07:12,974 --> 00:07:14,559 He has a message about his dad, 122 00:07:14,642 --> 00:07:16,644 but I have to articulate that carefully. 123 00:07:16,727 --> 00:07:18,020 -Yes. -Um… 124 00:07:20,148 --> 00:07:22,442 He sees how much you've had to do independently. 125 00:07:22,525 --> 00:07:25,736 And how maybe someone could extend the olive branch, 126 00:07:25,820 --> 00:07:28,906 or help out a little more, and maybe has kinda stepped back. 127 00:07:29,407 --> 00:07:34,203 His dad now lives in the Philippines and really disowned him. 128 00:07:34,287 --> 00:07:35,329 Yeah. 129 00:07:35,830 --> 00:07:38,624 So I had to handle a lot on my own. 130 00:07:38,708 --> 00:07:42,128 Yeah. He's not angry, but he realizes it for what it is, 131 00:07:42,211 --> 00:07:43,671 and you were always his rock. 132 00:07:43,754 --> 00:07:45,673 -Always. Still am. -You were always his rock. 133 00:07:52,305 --> 00:07:55,349 I lost the most important person in my entire life. 134 00:07:55,850 --> 00:07:57,059 My only son. 135 00:07:57,935 --> 00:07:59,770 He didn't do anything to anyone, 136 00:07:59,854 --> 00:08:02,148 except wanna love someone and pray for you. 137 00:08:03,774 --> 00:08:08,488 And I lost him. It's hard to imagine going on without him. 138 00:08:09,822 --> 00:08:11,449 We had so many plans. 139 00:08:12,658 --> 00:08:15,786 The last time I saw my son, Aaron, it was late at night 140 00:08:15,870 --> 00:08:17,121 and a lot of long hours, 141 00:08:17,205 --> 00:08:19,832 and I remember coming in, and I was in a mood. 142 00:08:19,916 --> 00:08:21,584 I'm gonna be real. I was in a mood. 143 00:08:21,667 --> 00:08:24,337 He's following me up the stairs. He's like, "Give me a kiss." 144 00:08:24,420 --> 00:08:27,381 He always lifts me up and gives me a kiss, but I was in my mood. 145 00:08:27,465 --> 00:08:29,258 Then I was finally like… 146 00:08:31,385 --> 00:08:34,639 I gave Aaron his first kiss and his last kiss. 147 00:08:36,140 --> 00:08:37,099 Hmm. 148 00:08:37,642 --> 00:08:38,476 I didn't know. 149 00:08:43,481 --> 00:08:45,024 When he comes across, 150 00:08:46,150 --> 00:08:48,653 there is, um, a couple things. 151 00:08:48,736 --> 00:08:53,658 He very much… When I was there earlier, and I wanna handle this sensitively. 152 00:08:53,741 --> 00:08:56,702 -But I also wanna be honest with you. -Yes, please. 153 00:08:56,786 --> 00:08:58,829 When I went to the scene earlier, 154 00:08:58,913 --> 00:09:02,291 I was struck by how much of a surprise this felt like. 155 00:09:02,375 --> 00:09:07,004 When I talk about an instant situation, it was one in the way this comes through. 156 00:09:07,505 --> 00:09:10,883 For some reason, I didn't get a visual of seeing what was happening. 157 00:09:10,967 --> 00:09:13,094 Feels almost behind me. 158 00:09:13,177 --> 00:09:15,680 I know it's a weird thing to say, but when I was there, 159 00:09:15,763 --> 00:09:17,890 I was getting more my back than my front. 160 00:09:17,974 --> 00:09:23,312 I got back pain and started having what I described as spinal feeling. 161 00:09:23,396 --> 00:09:27,692 So… This just happened extremely fast, 162 00:09:27,775 --> 00:09:30,861 and he really did not know that this was coming. 163 00:09:30,945 --> 00:09:32,071 Quite literally. 164 00:09:32,154 --> 00:09:33,364 Um… 165 00:09:33,447 --> 00:09:36,534 This was a path that he had gone through many times. 166 00:09:36,617 --> 00:09:39,787 This, he had, I feel like, been on this road before. 167 00:09:40,538 --> 00:09:41,706 Um… 168 00:09:41,789 --> 00:09:44,584 He also simultaneously knew how dangerous it was. 169 00:09:44,667 --> 00:09:46,586 So this is the interesting thing, 170 00:09:46,669 --> 00:09:49,338 is I think he had been warned before to be careful 171 00:09:49,422 --> 00:09:51,215 -on that particular road. -Right. 172 00:09:51,299 --> 00:09:52,466 -Does it make sense? -Yes. 173 00:09:52,550 --> 00:09:55,720 Yeah, and so he just gives me this impression of, 174 00:09:56,220 --> 00:09:59,265 feel like I'm closer to the road than I should be. 175 00:10:02,977 --> 00:10:06,814 But beyond that, I felt distracted with noise in some way. 176 00:10:06,897 --> 00:10:09,775 I have to ask, did he ever listen to music when he'd walk? 177 00:10:09,859 --> 00:10:11,777 He would, and I'd tell him not to. 178 00:10:11,861 --> 00:10:14,655 Okay. For you, what do you feel is fishy? 179 00:10:14,739 --> 00:10:16,449 We can talk about this and-- 180 00:10:16,532 --> 00:10:18,701 -I feel he was set up. Um… -Okay. 181 00:10:18,784 --> 00:10:22,580 Someone had threatened to do the same exact thing to him a year before. 182 00:10:23,331 --> 00:10:27,168 When I first worked on the case, when I got the folder in front of me, 183 00:10:27,668 --> 00:10:30,671 I felt that there was a theory involving a racist. 184 00:10:30,755 --> 00:10:34,133 It's just interesting that that theory came through the second… 185 00:10:34,216 --> 00:10:36,302 Granted, there was just a file folder. 186 00:10:36,385 --> 00:10:38,554 So I knew that was gonna be a theory 187 00:10:38,638 --> 00:10:41,223 that had been considered and brought up. 188 00:10:41,307 --> 00:10:46,729 But he doesn't come up with any feeling of blame, or judgment, or anger. 189 00:10:46,812 --> 00:10:50,691 Typically, when people are targeted or murdered, 190 00:10:50,775 --> 00:10:54,403 they will come through and say, "Look, this person did this to me." 191 00:10:55,488 --> 00:10:57,865 But I'm less inclined to think that… 192 00:10:59,325 --> 00:11:02,620 somebody targeted your son, or anything along those lines. Um… 193 00:11:02,703 --> 00:11:06,916 I don't feel like the person who did this knew him. 194 00:11:06,999 --> 00:11:08,542 It doesn't feel like that. 195 00:11:08,626 --> 00:11:11,212 The amount of cruelty in this situation is immense, 196 00:11:11,295 --> 00:11:13,839 obviously, for the fact that they just kept going, 197 00:11:13,923 --> 00:11:16,467 but he acknowledges that he went very fast. 198 00:11:16,550 --> 00:11:20,763 So it's not like he was, you know, lingering or suffering. 199 00:11:20,846 --> 00:11:24,767 -He in his forgiving nature, is not angry. 200 00:11:25,267 --> 00:11:28,062 His soul is free. He is not angry. 201 00:11:28,646 --> 00:11:32,024 He did not hold on to this, and I feel like we're gonna make headway 202 00:11:32,108 --> 00:11:33,901 in determining who did this. 203 00:11:33,984 --> 00:11:37,238 I do feel like in the long run, justice will be served, 204 00:11:37,321 --> 00:11:40,866 and I feel like he feels that, but he is not angry. 205 00:11:41,367 --> 00:11:44,036 He is not angry. He is okay. 206 00:11:46,706 --> 00:11:51,043 This is still very fresh, but as time goes on, you'll process this, 207 00:11:51,127 --> 00:11:54,004 and he's gonna be instrumental in being that voice in your ear. 208 00:11:54,088 --> 00:11:56,799 -Oh my God. -He's gonna be that voice in your ear. 209 00:11:56,882 --> 00:11:59,385 In that way, you'll always have a connection to him, 210 00:11:59,468 --> 00:12:00,636 I know it's not the same. 211 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,888 -You'd give anything to just hug him. -Yeah. 212 00:12:02,972 --> 00:12:05,474 But I want you to know that we do reunite. 213 00:12:05,558 --> 00:12:08,602 There's a lot of beautiful work that you're gonna do in this world. 214 00:12:08,686 --> 00:12:11,522 This is not a goodbye. This is just a "See you later." 215 00:12:13,816 --> 00:12:19,071 This reading gave me hope that I haven't had in over a year and three weeks. 216 00:12:19,155 --> 00:12:23,409 -Yeah. -It's the first time I genuinely smiled. 217 00:12:23,492 --> 00:12:24,744 -Good. -On the inside. 218 00:12:30,124 --> 00:12:33,043 For him to come give me so much hope, so much love, 219 00:12:33,127 --> 00:12:35,421 so much joy, is what I need in my life. 220 00:12:35,504 --> 00:12:37,465 Thank you. 221 00:12:38,466 --> 00:12:41,469 Thank you, Tyler. Thank you, Tyler. Thank you. 222 00:12:42,803 --> 00:12:43,637 Thanks. 223 00:12:50,478 --> 00:12:51,520 Oh. 224 00:12:51,604 --> 00:12:53,063 That was intense. 225 00:12:53,147 --> 00:12:54,940 That love. You can feel his soul, 226 00:12:55,024 --> 00:12:56,442 and I have to tell you, 227 00:12:56,525 --> 00:12:59,570 he has so much gratitude for you for not giving up on him. 228 00:12:59,653 --> 00:13:00,946 -Yeah. -And you know what? 229 00:13:01,030 --> 00:13:03,032 This wouldn't have been possible without you. 230 00:13:03,115 --> 00:13:06,285 Oh, I appreciate it. You gave her something I couldn't give her. 231 00:13:06,368 --> 00:13:09,413 That the police couldn't give her, no institution could give her. 232 00:13:09,497 --> 00:13:11,916 Nobody would be able to. Doesn't matter what happened. 233 00:13:11,999 --> 00:13:14,960 -Nobody can. -Amazing. Thank you for everything. 234 00:13:22,676 --> 00:13:24,762 I spent last night actually scrying 235 00:13:24,845 --> 00:13:26,514 a good portion of the evening. 236 00:13:27,014 --> 00:13:30,267 It's where you look in a mirror in a dark room and meditate. 237 00:13:30,351 --> 00:13:33,979 I did that in preparation for today and saw some interesting things. 238 00:13:34,063 --> 00:13:38,859 I had, like, a… someone in there, basically not super young, not super old, 239 00:13:38,943 --> 00:13:40,736 more that middle ground reference, 240 00:13:40,820 --> 00:13:44,907 and that seemed more obviously tragic, because of the timing of it. 241 00:13:45,407 --> 00:13:50,287 And saw a man with, like, facial hair, a mustache and a beard. 242 00:13:50,371 --> 00:13:54,416 It was very creepy. That's the thing with looking into a mirror, 243 00:13:54,500 --> 00:13:57,211 or doing mirror gazing, is that it's kind of jolting, 244 00:13:57,294 --> 00:14:00,840 'cause you do see things in the mirror, and I don't really like that. 245 00:14:21,110 --> 00:14:25,406 Whoa. Stuff comin' in now. Hearing the jingle of car keys. 246 00:14:25,489 --> 00:14:27,324 Okay. What does that mean? 247 00:14:27,408 --> 00:14:30,244 I don't know. It's what I'm hearing. 248 00:14:30,828 --> 00:14:33,330 Car keys. I don't know. 249 00:14:43,841 --> 00:14:45,676 -We're glad you're here. -Amazing. 250 00:14:45,759 --> 00:14:46,927 You got peaches. 251 00:14:47,011 --> 00:14:49,179 -In Georgia, you have to. -That's right. 252 00:14:49,263 --> 00:14:51,265 We have peach iced tea and peach pie for you. 253 00:14:51,849 --> 00:14:53,225 Look how big this ant is. 254 00:14:53,309 --> 00:14:55,978 Do you see this? It's like a nature documentary. 255 00:14:56,061 --> 00:14:57,646 He wants some of the peach tea too. 256 00:14:57,730 --> 00:15:00,566 -It's all good. So you're Kylie. -I'm Kylie, yes. 257 00:15:00,649 --> 00:15:02,026 -Your name is? -Kathy. 258 00:15:02,109 --> 00:15:04,445 -Do you have an object for us? -I do. Hold that. 259 00:15:04,528 --> 00:15:06,822 -So I'm gonna hold onto this. -Okay. 260 00:15:06,906 --> 00:15:08,866 I'll start scribbling and see what happens, 261 00:15:08,949 --> 00:15:11,243 and I'll start relaying everything that comes. 262 00:15:13,454 --> 00:15:17,917 Okay. We got that, that, that, that. 263 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,211 Okay, come through. Come through. I got you. 264 00:15:23,088 --> 00:15:25,925 There's someone who I thought would be here, but they're not. 265 00:15:26,926 --> 00:15:29,929 Did you consider anybody else potentially being here today? 266 00:15:30,012 --> 00:15:32,473 -To the reading… Yes. -Okay, and they didn't… 267 00:15:32,556 --> 00:15:34,892 They weren't able to make it. Was this is a female? 268 00:15:34,975 --> 00:15:36,852 -Yes. -I have to highlight that person. 269 00:15:42,316 --> 00:15:43,150 Okay. 270 00:15:45,861 --> 00:15:49,657 Okay, so this is kind of weird, but he's referencing to… 271 00:15:50,658 --> 00:15:52,326 time of his passing. 272 00:15:52,409 --> 00:15:55,496 There's a lot here. Do you know of any Williams in the family? 273 00:15:55,579 --> 00:15:57,957 -I have a William. -You have a William. Is he passed? 274 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,543 -Yes. -Okay, so I'm gonna do "mom," "son" there. 275 00:16:01,627 --> 00:16:02,920 "Williams." 276 00:16:03,504 --> 00:16:05,381 There's a joke about rival sports teams, 277 00:16:05,464 --> 00:16:06,924 or something along those lines. 278 00:16:07,007 --> 00:16:09,093 -Oh my God. -The one off in the family. 279 00:16:09,176 --> 00:16:12,096 If we have a whole group of people who are a fan of a team, 280 00:16:12,179 --> 00:16:14,640 then we have one person who deviates from that, 281 00:16:14,723 --> 00:16:16,141 and it's like, "Ha, ha." 282 00:16:16,225 --> 00:16:18,852 'Cause William… They were all from University of Florida. 283 00:16:18,936 --> 00:16:21,981 My sister and I went to Florida State. 284 00:16:22,064 --> 00:16:24,775 -We were the rebels. -In the South, that's a big deal. 285 00:16:24,858 --> 00:16:26,485 -I love it! Got you. 286 00:16:26,568 --> 00:16:28,570 -So we have the William stuff. -Yes. 287 00:16:28,654 --> 00:16:30,906 We have our guy here. What was his first name? 288 00:16:30,990 --> 00:16:34,827 -Uh, Dennis. -Okay. We're gonna put "Dennis" there, 289 00:16:34,910 --> 00:16:37,496 "William" over there. So it'll help me mentally separate. 290 00:16:37,579 --> 00:16:41,041 Dennis, Dennis, Dennis, Dennis. Let's see here. 291 00:16:42,334 --> 00:16:44,962 Hmm. Okay. Dennis, Dennis. 292 00:16:47,006 --> 00:16:47,965 All right. 293 00:16:48,465 --> 00:16:52,428 So yeah, they will do this, but he's referencing to after he passed, 294 00:16:52,511 --> 00:16:55,389 a self-consciousness around… sometimes people will decide to do 295 00:16:55,472 --> 00:16:57,433 an open casket or a closed casket. 296 00:16:57,516 --> 00:17:00,602 He's not wanting to be remembered by how he looked after. 297 00:17:00,686 --> 00:17:03,355 -He's showing a symbolically close thing. -Okay. 298 00:17:03,439 --> 00:17:07,317 He doesn't strike me as passing away super young, but he's not giving me old. 299 00:17:07,401 --> 00:17:09,361 -Okay. -He should've had more time. 300 00:17:09,445 --> 00:17:10,863 How old was Dennis when he passed? 301 00:17:10,946 --> 00:17:12,906 -Forties. -Yeah, in his 40s. 302 00:17:16,410 --> 00:17:19,663 Huh! Showed me car keys, weirdly, with this. 303 00:17:19,747 --> 00:17:21,915 -Do we have his car keys? -Don't think so. 304 00:17:21,999 --> 00:17:24,835 -Do we know what happened to his car keys? -I don't. 305 00:17:24,918 --> 00:17:26,920 I don't know why I'm getting this car key. 306 00:17:27,004 --> 00:17:29,506 I've been hearing it on the way here. Like, jingle. 307 00:17:29,590 --> 00:17:30,591 Um… 308 00:17:30,674 --> 00:17:32,760 -We'll circle back. Gonna write it down. -Okay. 309 00:17:32,843 --> 00:17:35,471 "Car… keys." All right. 310 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,853 There is somebody, I suspect either filled up with fluids very quickly, 311 00:17:42,936 --> 00:17:46,440 or wasn't able to eliminate fluids from their body fully. 312 00:17:46,523 --> 00:17:48,233 -Okay. -So there's something there. 313 00:17:48,317 --> 00:17:50,527 And it feels like whatever this is filled up. 314 00:17:50,611 --> 00:17:54,448 I feel like I've filled up, and I can't… They're doing this to me right here. 315 00:17:54,531 --> 00:17:58,577 I'm very much going to my tummy. And I feel like I'm sitting like this. 316 00:17:58,660 --> 00:18:01,038 -Do you think it's Dennis? -I think it's Dennis. 317 00:18:01,121 --> 00:18:02,039 Yeah. 318 00:18:02,122 --> 00:18:03,082 Yeah. 319 00:18:04,833 --> 00:18:07,753 This is gonna sound ridiculous, but there's a funny story. 320 00:18:07,836 --> 00:18:10,464 This probably is not gonna make any sense right now, 321 00:18:10,547 --> 00:18:14,218 because there's a story of somebody jumping out of a building… 322 00:18:14,301 --> 00:18:16,178 …jumping from a roof onto the ground. 323 00:18:16,261 --> 00:18:19,973 There's something weird they're having me bring up to make fun of it, 324 00:18:20,057 --> 00:18:22,392 in the way this comes across. What would that mean? 325 00:18:22,476 --> 00:18:26,772 So his son used to go to their grandparents' house, 326 00:18:26,855 --> 00:18:28,774 and he'd jump off the roof. 327 00:18:28,857 --> 00:18:32,069 We sat on the roof together. When Grandpa would come out to catch us, 328 00:18:32,152 --> 00:18:34,029 we'd have to run and jump off. 329 00:18:34,113 --> 00:18:37,199 Gotcha. It's a funny thing. Going up, and then like I'm jumping down, 330 00:18:37,282 --> 00:18:39,660 but in a comical sense. It's not how someone passed. 331 00:18:39,743 --> 00:18:41,245 It's a funny thing of like, yeah. 332 00:18:41,328 --> 00:18:43,413 -Like, "Run!" -It was one of our memories. 333 00:18:43,497 --> 00:18:45,332 Being kids, and Grandpa coming outside, 334 00:18:45,415 --> 00:18:48,752 and we weren't supposed to be on the roof. You better get off fast. 335 00:18:48,836 --> 00:18:50,671 Gotcha. That kind of thing. 336 00:18:50,754 --> 00:18:53,298 -There's a joke around that, so. -That's crazy. 337 00:18:53,382 --> 00:18:54,675 They love to refer to things 338 00:18:54,758 --> 00:18:58,011 that they know will be funny or kinda lighten the mood. 339 00:18:58,095 --> 00:18:59,513 There is that acknowledgment. 340 00:18:59,596 --> 00:19:00,556 You're good. 341 00:19:00,639 --> 00:19:02,683 -It's all good. -So I-- 342 00:19:02,766 --> 00:19:04,268 -It's incredible. -Yes. 343 00:19:04,351 --> 00:19:05,352 But, uh… 344 00:19:06,687 --> 00:19:09,940 He's selective. I'm trying to get him to tell how he passed. It's going 345 00:19:10,023 --> 00:19:11,608 a little back and forth. 346 00:19:12,901 --> 00:19:15,445 Because he's showing me… okay. 347 00:19:15,946 --> 00:19:17,614 I get a feeling of not feeling good, 348 00:19:17,698 --> 00:19:19,908 but not wanting to talk about it or share that. 349 00:19:19,992 --> 00:19:22,703 -Yeah. -There's definitely a feeling of… 350 00:19:22,786 --> 00:19:25,330 I have to say with this, I'm hearing, sounds like 351 00:19:25,414 --> 00:19:27,666 a gunshot reference. That'd be connected to him? 352 00:19:27,749 --> 00:19:29,710 I feel like I have to highlight that aspect. 353 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,548 Interesting. He gave references to both him and his son. 354 00:19:34,631 --> 00:19:37,551 Strange. Okay. Let me see here. 355 00:19:38,552 --> 00:19:42,055 I wonder if somebody around Dennis either accidentally shot themselves… 356 00:19:42,139 --> 00:19:45,726 I know it's a very weird thing to say, there's a story with a gun going off. 357 00:19:45,809 --> 00:19:49,938 And I feel a sense of, "Wow, there's kind of weirdness around this." 358 00:19:50,022 --> 00:19:52,900 It's not like… There's something strange there. 359 00:19:52,983 --> 00:19:54,526 -Yeah. -Does that make sense? 360 00:19:54,610 --> 00:19:55,611 -Yeah. -Very much. 361 00:19:55,694 --> 00:19:58,322 -I'm sorry 'cause it's-- -No, that's what you're here for. 362 00:19:58,405 --> 00:20:02,451 'Cause you bring up the emotions because it's right on point with Dennis. 363 00:20:02,534 --> 00:20:04,536 -Yeah, it's okay. -And his son. 364 00:20:04,620 --> 00:20:09,208 Yeah, there is definitely an element of, like, this feels… heavy. 365 00:20:09,291 --> 00:20:10,125 Um… 366 00:20:11,210 --> 00:20:12,669 We're gonna focus on his son. 367 00:20:12,753 --> 00:20:14,463 -What was his son's first name? -DJ. 368 00:20:14,546 --> 00:20:15,672 -DJ. Okay. -Yes. 369 00:20:16,673 --> 00:20:18,967 -The one that jumped off the roof. -Gotcha. 370 00:20:19,051 --> 00:20:21,011 -I have another object. -You do? Perfect. 371 00:20:21,094 --> 00:20:23,305 -And so this is for DJ? -Yes. 372 00:20:23,388 --> 00:20:26,391 Awesome. All right. Let me see what I can do here. 373 00:20:33,023 --> 00:20:36,735 This is a heavy one. This is really sad. Um… 374 00:20:38,487 --> 00:20:40,030 Comes through all good. 375 00:20:40,822 --> 00:20:43,742 Anytime they show hesitance around talking about their passing, 376 00:20:43,825 --> 00:20:45,535 it usually indicates, like, uh… 377 00:20:46,036 --> 00:20:48,747 -They aren't proud with how it went. -Yeah. 378 00:20:48,830 --> 00:20:51,041 I don't believe they hold onto shame, 379 00:20:51,124 --> 00:20:52,960 but there's this feeling of, 380 00:20:53,043 --> 00:20:55,629 "Ah, if I could do it over, wouldn't have gone this way." 381 00:20:55,712 --> 00:20:58,006 He's bringing up this feeling of like, 382 00:20:59,132 --> 00:21:02,219 "Darn, that was dumb. I shouldn't have gone that way." 383 00:21:02,302 --> 00:21:06,098 He's not giving me the full, "I completely intended to end my life." 384 00:21:06,181 --> 00:21:09,393 -It struck me like, Russian roulette. -Thank you. 385 00:21:09,476 --> 00:21:13,438 Unconsciously, either being reckless or doing something they shouldn't be doing, 386 00:21:13,522 --> 00:21:14,940 and then something happens. 387 00:21:15,023 --> 00:21:17,484 They may not have planned to end it all, 388 00:21:17,567 --> 00:21:21,280 but they put themselves in such a position where that they led to their death. 389 00:21:21,363 --> 00:21:24,700 So it's kind of a feeling of, like, reckless is what comes through. 390 00:21:24,783 --> 00:21:26,994 -Versus, like, "I wanted out." -Intentionally. 391 00:21:27,077 --> 00:21:28,370 Yeah. That makes sense. 392 00:21:28,453 --> 00:21:30,831 That said, I think there was some depression 393 00:21:30,914 --> 00:21:32,582 that his son dealt with. 394 00:21:32,666 --> 00:21:35,168 In talking about DJ, obviously, that's a lot there. 395 00:21:35,252 --> 00:21:38,630 I just wanna know who he was to you and what happened. 396 00:21:38,714 --> 00:21:40,465 Yeah. So DJ was my cousin. 397 00:21:40,549 --> 00:21:43,260 We were really close as kids growing up together. 398 00:21:43,343 --> 00:21:45,095 And pretty close in age as well. 399 00:21:45,178 --> 00:21:48,724 And he committed suicide right after I graduated college. 400 00:21:48,807 --> 00:21:50,517 -Gotcha. -But yeah. 401 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,229 So he was the one that tragically and suddenly passed away. 402 00:21:54,313 --> 00:21:57,983 It made sense, like you were saying. I don't think that was his intention. 403 00:21:58,066 --> 00:22:00,193 I think that he got in that dark headspace 404 00:22:00,277 --> 00:22:05,032 and had access to something that, made a really final decision for him. 405 00:22:05,115 --> 00:22:08,285 Yeah. And it was a real big tragedy for our family. 406 00:22:08,368 --> 00:22:09,411 Yeah, absolutely. 407 00:22:09,494 --> 00:22:12,873 Unfortunately, his father is the one that died before him. 408 00:22:12,956 --> 00:22:15,959 And committed suicide. They both killed themselves with guns. 409 00:22:16,043 --> 00:22:19,546 -I see. -So, and the mom found both of them. 410 00:22:19,629 --> 00:22:21,089 -Yeah. Wow. -So, you know-- 411 00:22:21,173 --> 00:22:22,758 Separate occasions, years apart. 412 00:22:22,841 --> 00:22:23,884 But she was-- 413 00:22:23,967 --> 00:22:26,178 So yeah. She's a very strong person. 414 00:22:26,261 --> 00:22:28,930 And she was the one that if anybody we would want have 415 00:22:29,014 --> 00:22:30,474 at the reading, would be her. 416 00:22:30,557 --> 00:22:32,893 So I'm so glad you heard from them. 417 00:22:32,976 --> 00:22:36,646 So we can share with her some of the great information. 418 00:22:36,730 --> 00:22:37,814 It'll give her peace. 419 00:22:37,898 --> 00:22:41,234 Good. Yeah, I think she was the one that should've been here today. 420 00:22:41,318 --> 00:22:42,527 But she didn't have to be. 421 00:22:42,611 --> 00:22:44,654 -You guys can give her gift. -Absolutely. 422 00:22:44,738 --> 00:22:46,782 And let her know that they don't… 423 00:22:47,282 --> 00:22:50,077 They don't want that image seared in her mind forever. 424 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:51,119 -Yeah. -Right. 425 00:22:51,203 --> 00:22:54,414 Especially with Dennis, I will say he did give me a distinct feeling 426 00:22:54,498 --> 00:22:56,666 of not feeling well, physically even, 427 00:22:56,750 --> 00:22:59,461 before a good amount of time leading up to his passing. 428 00:22:59,544 --> 00:23:02,297 So I think if his life hadn't ended the way that it did, 429 00:23:02,381 --> 00:23:04,216 it was probably going to end anyway. 430 00:23:04,299 --> 00:23:05,801 -It was. -Just a different way. 431 00:23:05,884 --> 00:23:09,429 I think that was the rationale there for him to be able to do that, so. 432 00:23:09,513 --> 00:23:12,349 So Dennis was my husband's brother. 433 00:23:12,432 --> 00:23:14,559 They did an autopsy after he passed away, 434 00:23:14,643 --> 00:23:19,898 and if he had not died by suicide, he would have died from liver failure. 435 00:23:19,981 --> 00:23:21,858 -Makes sense. Yeah. -Yep. 436 00:23:21,942 --> 00:23:24,069 On some level, he had to be aware of that 437 00:23:24,152 --> 00:23:26,613 because he gives me too much of a feeling of, 438 00:23:26,696 --> 00:23:28,865 "I knew, but didn't want others to know." 439 00:23:28,949 --> 00:23:31,868 -Yeah. That makes sense. -It's a tough position. 440 00:23:31,952 --> 00:23:35,038 -People don't want to suffer. It's hard. -Right. Yeah. 441 00:23:35,539 --> 00:23:38,917 So before the reading, we were asked to write stuff down, 442 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,461 of messages we hoped to come through. 443 00:23:42,587 --> 00:23:44,381 -Nobody saw these before. -Nope. 444 00:23:44,464 --> 00:23:46,675 So I wrote, "Roof." 445 00:23:46,758 --> 00:23:48,760 I wrote, "Favorite cousin," 446 00:23:48,844 --> 00:23:51,596 and then, like, "River," talking about Florida. 447 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,057 So that was all pretty much hit on as well. 448 00:23:54,141 --> 00:23:56,601 That was my big key of, 449 00:23:56,685 --> 00:23:59,771 "Hey, this is something I haven't talked to production about." 450 00:23:59,855 --> 00:24:02,399 "I haven't talked to Mom. I haven't talked to anybody." 451 00:24:02,482 --> 00:24:03,900 "So let's talk about the roof." 452 00:24:04,985 --> 00:24:09,364 Just happy that we just got some really good information from them, 453 00:24:09,448 --> 00:24:12,200 'cause they're not here. Their lives were cut short. 454 00:24:16,538 --> 00:24:17,914 Hey, Kylie. 455 00:24:17,998 --> 00:24:21,168 Hey, Aunt Laurie. The big thing that he kept referencing 456 00:24:21,251 --> 00:24:24,254 is a third person that wasn't here today. 457 00:24:24,337 --> 00:24:26,673 And we, of course, immediately thought of you. 458 00:24:26,756 --> 00:24:27,966 That is unreal. 459 00:24:28,049 --> 00:24:31,261 He was referencing some keys, and jingling keys. 460 00:24:31,344 --> 00:24:36,016 I have, like, three sets of keychains of Dennis and DJ's. 461 00:24:36,099 --> 00:24:37,225 Oh my God. 462 00:24:37,309 --> 00:24:41,146 I can't tell you how many times the two of them would lose the keys. 463 00:24:41,229 --> 00:24:43,023 -That's so funny. -My god. 464 00:24:43,106 --> 00:24:44,941 -I have all those keys. Oh, wow. 465 00:24:45,025 --> 00:24:48,320 Did Uncle Dennis used to do anything about feeling uncomfortable, 466 00:24:48,403 --> 00:24:50,238 or putting his hands on his stomach? 467 00:24:50,322 --> 00:24:55,035 He, uh, used to press on his stomach underneath his rib cage, 468 00:24:55,118 --> 00:24:57,996 and kept telling me it was heartburn and how that hurt. 469 00:24:58,079 --> 00:24:59,498 Yeah. -It's so crazy. 470 00:24:59,581 --> 00:25:00,707 It was incredible. 471 00:25:00,790 --> 00:25:03,710 Wow. How awesome. How awesome. 472 00:25:12,302 --> 00:25:15,514 -I'm glad you had a good day. -I did. It was great. 473 00:25:15,597 --> 00:25:19,017 But just try to enjoy every day because you know what? 474 00:25:19,100 --> 00:25:21,436 -Life goes so fast. -Oh yeah. 475 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,271 You get Monday and Tuesday off. 476 00:25:23,355 --> 00:25:25,774 Maybe you could go outside and get a walk in. 477 00:25:25,857 --> 00:25:28,860 -There's never anyone there. -Zero interest in going outside. 478 00:25:28,944 --> 00:25:31,404 No one will bother you. You can't stay in bed. 479 00:25:31,488 --> 00:25:33,365 -It's not healthy. -Wanna bet? 480 00:25:33,448 --> 00:25:36,368 -No, on a serious note-- -I get up to walk around, and I go pee. 481 00:25:36,451 --> 00:25:38,161 Your ass is gonna fuse to that bed. 482 00:25:38,245 --> 00:25:39,663 -You know what? -Literally. 483 00:25:39,746 --> 00:25:42,374 It's gonna be fused to the sheets. You're gonna get bedsores. 484 00:25:42,457 --> 00:25:44,543 You know what? You need to tone it down. 485 00:25:44,626 --> 00:25:47,295 You can't lay in bed. It's not healthy. You're exhausted, 486 00:25:47,379 --> 00:25:50,215 and your job takes a lot of physical and emotional strength. 487 00:25:50,298 --> 00:25:51,341 I walk to the bathroom. 488 00:25:51,424 --> 00:25:54,761 Yeah. Oh, BFD. You know what "BFD" means? 489 00:25:55,262 --> 00:25:57,764 Big effing deal. Okay? 490 00:25:57,847 --> 00:26:00,058 -You know what, little woman? -Yes. 491 00:26:00,141 --> 00:26:03,270 -I love you so much, Tyler. -I love you. 492 00:26:05,021 --> 00:26:08,775 -That was a gorgeous man on a lawn mower. -Do you want me to turn around? 493 00:26:28,253 --> 00:26:32,340 No, real technical way to get it on the canvas there. 494 00:26:36,761 --> 00:26:39,848 After a reading, I have natural processes I go through 495 00:26:39,931 --> 00:26:43,560 to cleanse myself of the energy and the weight. I take a shower. 496 00:26:43,643 --> 00:26:45,312 Literal physical bathing helps. 497 00:26:45,395 --> 00:26:48,189 I meditate. I paint. I try to spend more time alone 498 00:26:48,773 --> 00:26:50,817 in order to try to shake it off. 499 00:26:51,484 --> 00:26:54,696 I don't know. I think this one's gonna get painted over. 500 00:26:54,779 --> 00:26:56,781 Kinda looks like an inflamed butt. 501 00:26:57,741 --> 00:27:00,619 This is like the end product. It's the ring of fire. 502 00:27:00,702 --> 00:27:02,954 That's what I'm gonna call it. "Ring of Fire." 503 00:27:03,788 --> 00:27:06,458 It's objectively bad, but let's see. 504 00:27:06,541 --> 00:27:07,375 Um… 505 00:27:08,084 --> 00:27:09,711 Yeah, we'll do a bit of that. 506 00:27:26,853 --> 00:27:29,773 -Good sign is I have a lot coming through. -Good. 507 00:27:34,152 --> 00:27:36,988 -Yeah, I'm seeing baseball… -Really? 508 00:27:37,072 --> 00:27:38,031 I'm seeing, uh… 509 00:27:40,116 --> 00:27:44,788 Like, awards, but I think they're awards somebody got when they were alive, 510 00:27:44,871 --> 00:27:47,624 and they're no longer alive, but we still have their awards. 511 00:28:10,146 --> 00:28:11,064 Wow. 512 00:28:11,147 --> 00:28:12,941 So is this your first time here? 513 00:28:13,024 --> 00:28:16,403 It is. I did get a reference to the sports connections here. 514 00:28:16,486 --> 00:28:19,864 -Oh, wow. -This is surreal. 515 00:28:20,865 --> 00:28:27,205 It is a special place. You know, it played a big role in the 1984 Olympics. 516 00:28:27,288 --> 00:28:29,874 -Oh okay. -But what year were you born? 517 00:28:29,958 --> 00:28:32,585 In 1996. So a little before my time. 518 00:28:32,669 --> 00:28:34,421 I was floating around in the ether. 519 00:28:34,504 --> 00:28:38,007 -But yeah, what a beautiful place. -Yes. 520 00:28:41,594 --> 00:28:45,807 I'm really hoping to connect with somebody who's really important to me. 521 00:28:46,307 --> 00:28:49,102 It's been really hard the last couple of years. 522 00:28:49,185 --> 00:28:51,855 I felt isolated and alone. 523 00:28:52,522 --> 00:28:56,735 You know, he was somebody that I could always talk to, 524 00:28:56,818 --> 00:28:59,154 and I miss our conversations. 525 00:29:00,780 --> 00:29:04,617 I've been wondering, is he proud of what I've done? 526 00:29:09,122 --> 00:29:12,417 Okay. I woke up this morning, not expecting this, 527 00:29:12,500 --> 00:29:14,377 so I'm really excited. 528 00:29:14,461 --> 00:29:16,337 Before we start, what's your first name? 529 00:29:16,421 --> 00:29:18,506 -Jeanie. -Jeanie. Okay, cool. 530 00:29:18,590 --> 00:29:20,633 -Do you have any objects? -I brought some. 531 00:29:20,717 --> 00:29:21,926 Cool. 532 00:29:23,928 --> 00:29:25,054 Fabulous. 533 00:29:28,516 --> 00:29:32,520 Great. So I'll tell you first what I got on my way here. 534 00:29:32,604 --> 00:29:35,356 I had this very masculine energy coming through. 535 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:36,983 This guy who was just, like, 536 00:29:37,066 --> 00:29:40,570 intensely determined to try to come through and talk to you today. 537 00:29:40,653 --> 00:29:45,116 Very much like, "It's me. I'm here. You're gonna talk to her." 538 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,745 And there was just this feeling of an extremely strong… 539 00:29:48,828 --> 00:29:50,538 Like when someone walks in the room, 540 00:29:50,622 --> 00:29:54,542 and he dominates attention, or almost like all eyeballs are on him. 541 00:29:54,626 --> 00:29:56,085 He was that kind of guy. 542 00:29:56,586 --> 00:29:59,464 The interesting thing, and I didn't know where we were meeting, 543 00:29:59,547 --> 00:30:02,675 but I was getting references like trophies, honors. 544 00:30:02,759 --> 00:30:06,346 It's giving me a lot of imagery of the things that we have that 545 00:30:06,429 --> 00:30:08,223 are more achievement-related. 546 00:30:08,306 --> 00:30:12,852 So things that someone might have done that warrants giving them a plaque, 547 00:30:12,936 --> 00:30:14,938 a trophy, a medal, that kind of thing. 548 00:30:15,021 --> 00:30:16,523 Does that fit the bill for him? 549 00:30:16,606 --> 00:30:18,900 -Yes. -Okay. Cool. Cool, cool, cool. 550 00:30:21,903 --> 00:30:26,533 He's having me acknowledge that his name was put on something, and it's not like a… 551 00:30:26,616 --> 00:30:30,286 I don't… I've sat on benches before where someone had their name on the bench. 552 00:30:30,370 --> 00:30:31,371 It's not like that. 553 00:30:31,454 --> 00:30:34,499 It's so obvious, we wouldn't be able to ignore it. 554 00:30:34,582 --> 00:30:36,626 -That's how I'd describe it. Make sense? -Yes. 555 00:30:36,709 --> 00:30:39,712 -Okay, cool. -He is definitely trying to impress you. 556 00:30:39,796 --> 00:30:44,425 He's showing you something you would understand and connect with. 557 00:30:44,509 --> 00:30:48,763 Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, seems very important for him. 558 00:30:49,264 --> 00:30:50,431 Um… 559 00:30:52,225 --> 00:30:55,311 It's kind of a funny weird quirk that I'm gonna bring up. 560 00:30:55,395 --> 00:30:56,229 Okay. 561 00:30:57,230 --> 00:30:59,315 If someone is financially comfortable, 562 00:30:59,399 --> 00:31:04,112 usually, they'll keep updating things, buying new things, adding to a collection. 563 00:31:04,195 --> 00:31:07,949 He's showing me this situation where if I have something, and it works, 564 00:31:08,032 --> 00:31:11,369 I don't need to buy a new one. But I feel like I held on to things. 565 00:31:11,452 --> 00:31:13,329 -Does that make sense? -Totally. 566 00:31:13,413 --> 00:31:16,374 But yet he was fully…. It's not like he was not well-off. 567 00:31:16,457 --> 00:31:20,295 I mean, he could've totally done it, but he was showing me this feeling of, 568 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,339 "If it works, you don't need to get a new one." 569 00:31:23,423 --> 00:31:26,175 But it's a quirk. It's a funny thing. Does that make sense? 570 00:31:26,259 --> 00:31:31,431 I… You have no idea how many times he had that conversation with me, 571 00:31:31,514 --> 00:31:35,643 because he had a couch in his office that was dated. 572 00:31:35,727 --> 00:31:38,438 And I thought, "Oh, I'll surprise him." 573 00:31:38,521 --> 00:31:42,650 And so he came into the office, and he was like, "Where is my couch?" 574 00:31:42,734 --> 00:31:45,361 I'm like, "No, look at the new one we got." 575 00:31:45,445 --> 00:31:49,157 And he goes, "How would you feel if I came to your house 576 00:31:49,824 --> 00:31:55,997 and took your favorite pair of slippers, and I replaced them with new slippers?" 577 00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:00,627 "That's how this feels to me. Like, you know, I like this." 578 00:32:00,710 --> 00:32:03,046 -If it's broke, don't fix it. -Right. 579 00:32:03,129 --> 00:32:05,715 Yeah. This is very much the feeling. 580 00:32:05,798 --> 00:32:08,009 It's funny and admirable. 581 00:32:08,092 --> 00:32:10,803 I mean, it shows that he wasn't all about stuff. 582 00:32:10,887 --> 00:32:14,933 But it's more practical. It's really interesting. 583 00:32:15,016 --> 00:32:19,145 And then, um… Okay, I've got that. That. 584 00:32:22,774 --> 00:32:23,608 All right. 585 00:32:24,817 --> 00:32:27,320 I'm trying to figure out… getting more specifics. 586 00:32:27,403 --> 00:32:28,488 We'll get into it more. 587 00:32:32,742 --> 00:32:33,701 Um… 588 00:32:33,785 --> 00:32:37,372 I want you to know when he comes through, he feels like you knew him in a way 589 00:32:37,455 --> 00:32:40,375 that nobody else was ever able to fully get into. 590 00:32:40,458 --> 00:32:42,293 He showed me a nut. You cracked him. 591 00:32:42,377 --> 00:32:44,712 -You cracked it. You got in there. 592 00:32:44,796 --> 00:32:47,548 And it's funny. He comes across, 593 00:32:47,632 --> 00:32:50,551 he gives me this feeling of, he was many things to many people, 594 00:32:50,635 --> 00:32:54,722 but I feel like to you, I feel like you knew the core of who this person was. 595 00:32:54,806 --> 00:32:59,185 And in many ways, there's this feeling of, like, just, I can be vulnerable, 596 00:32:59,268 --> 00:33:01,604 and there's an appreciation in there with that. 597 00:33:01,688 --> 00:33:03,272 You had to be everything to him 598 00:33:03,356 --> 00:33:08,111 because when this comes across, he's insistent, like, "This is my one." 599 00:33:08,194 --> 00:33:10,405 And it's really sweet. I just love that. 600 00:33:16,953 --> 00:33:18,162 Uh… 601 00:33:18,788 --> 00:33:21,374 He's bringing me to the last six months of his life. 602 00:33:21,457 --> 00:33:23,459 -Okay. -He didn't want there to be any… 603 00:33:26,879 --> 00:33:28,256 frustration. Um… 604 00:33:29,215 --> 00:33:31,467 I'm trying to think how to articulate this. 605 00:33:32,301 --> 00:33:36,139 There's a feeling here of, I didn't tie up the loose ends that I needed to tie up, 606 00:33:36,222 --> 00:33:37,724 and I'm sorry for it. 607 00:33:38,224 --> 00:33:40,143 He's bringing up this feeling of, 608 00:33:40,226 --> 00:33:43,938 "It's the only thing that I would've really, really, really done over." 609 00:33:44,772 --> 00:33:47,233 That's very important to him from what I can tell, 610 00:33:47,316 --> 00:33:51,237 that that situation not skew how we remember him. 611 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:52,655 Um… 612 00:33:52,739 --> 00:33:53,906 Who is this for you? 613 00:33:54,490 --> 00:33:56,451 My father, Dr. Jerry Buss. 614 00:33:56,534 --> 00:34:00,371 He was the owner of the Los Angeles Lakers. 615 00:34:01,414 --> 00:34:04,375 That's why we're sitting in the LA Coliseum. 616 00:34:04,459 --> 00:34:06,461 He attended this university, 617 00:34:07,045 --> 00:34:10,465 and, you know, he came from very humble means, 618 00:34:10,548 --> 00:34:14,218 and it was really a dream for him to be able to attend 619 00:34:14,302 --> 00:34:15,803 this school on scholarship, 620 00:34:15,887 --> 00:34:17,930 and he loved sports. 621 00:34:18,014 --> 00:34:20,141 I like to say, my dad had his children. 622 00:34:20,224 --> 00:34:22,894 -But the Lakers were his baby. -Right. 623 00:34:22,977 --> 00:34:25,730 He's been gone now for eight years and 624 00:34:25,813 --> 00:34:30,359 didn't really talk about death. 625 00:34:30,860 --> 00:34:31,903 He loved his life. 626 00:34:31,986 --> 00:34:34,781 He loved everything that he did. 627 00:34:35,281 --> 00:34:37,200 It was too hard to say goodbye. 628 00:34:38,785 --> 00:34:41,829 There was a reference to the name on something you couldn't ignore. 629 00:34:41,913 --> 00:34:42,872 So what was that? 630 00:34:42,955 --> 00:34:48,419 He was very specific that he wanted a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. 631 00:34:48,503 --> 00:34:49,462 Whoa. 632 00:34:50,004 --> 00:34:52,548 It was one of my dad's proudest moments. 633 00:34:52,632 --> 00:34:56,135 He was just beaming to be part of Hollywood. 634 00:34:56,219 --> 00:34:58,638 That's amazing. I love that. 635 00:35:00,264 --> 00:35:01,933 They're shifting gears a bit, 636 00:35:02,016 --> 00:35:04,352 which is a good sign. They're gonna elaborate more. 637 00:35:05,311 --> 00:35:07,897 Old vision stuff. Trying to figure out what this is. 638 00:35:09,398 --> 00:35:10,358 Okay. 639 00:35:12,819 --> 00:35:16,072 It's weird. They're having me talk about someone losing a sibling. 640 00:35:16,155 --> 00:35:20,493 So… and the passing of a sibling, and it seems significant in some way. 641 00:35:20,576 --> 00:35:22,537 Um, but I don't know how this pertains. 642 00:35:22,620 --> 00:35:24,747 -'Cause I'm only seeing what I'm seeing. -Yeah. 643 00:35:24,831 --> 00:35:25,748 Um… 644 00:35:28,626 --> 00:35:31,170 -Did you lose a sibling? -Um… 645 00:35:33,089 --> 00:35:37,927 -But by choice, not by passing. Right. -Gotcha. 646 00:35:38,010 --> 00:35:40,388 -So there's that disconnect. I see. -Right. 647 00:35:40,471 --> 00:35:42,348 Um, would this have been a sister? 648 00:35:42,431 --> 00:35:43,766 -Yes. -Yeah, okay. 649 00:35:45,226 --> 00:35:50,022 You know, I just want him to know, I wish he could have told me sooner, 650 00:35:50,106 --> 00:35:56,571 and that whatever fear, concern he had about the information… 651 00:35:56,654 --> 00:35:59,949 -Yeah. -Like it… I'm good. 652 00:36:00,032 --> 00:36:01,450 It doesn't bother me at all. 653 00:36:01,534 --> 00:36:05,121 Like, and I wanna make sure he's at peace with that. 654 00:36:05,872 --> 00:36:10,585 My parents, when they were first married, they had a child. 655 00:36:10,668 --> 00:36:14,714 -And they gave up the child for adoption. -Yeah. 656 00:36:14,797 --> 00:36:20,469 And after, you know, they never shared it with us. 657 00:36:20,553 --> 00:36:24,724 And then after he passed away, my mom shared that with me. 658 00:36:25,224 --> 00:36:28,311 Then about a year and a half ago, 659 00:36:28,394 --> 00:36:33,107 we found the sister that I never knew I had. 660 00:36:33,191 --> 00:36:38,529 And I think that was something that was important 661 00:36:38,613 --> 00:36:43,201 to my dad that he just didn't know how to tell me. 662 00:36:43,284 --> 00:36:46,996 Right. It comes through as a feeling of patting you on the back. 663 00:36:47,079 --> 00:36:48,998 -So you handled it great. -Thank you. 664 00:36:49,081 --> 00:36:52,793 Of course. Are there any other questions that come to mind related to him? 665 00:36:53,294 --> 00:36:59,717 You know, that… That he's happy with the job that I'm doing, 666 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,553 and I want to know that he's proud, 667 00:37:02,637 --> 00:37:06,766 and that if there's anything he wants me to know, or that's all. 668 00:37:09,852 --> 00:37:13,814 He feels like, in many ways, you will spread his legacy, 669 00:37:13,898 --> 00:37:16,025 and he's like, "Thank you for doing this." 670 00:37:16,108 --> 00:37:17,860 I feel like you're spearheading it. 671 00:37:18,361 --> 00:37:21,697 In many ways, it feels to me like he felt you've stepped up to the plate, 672 00:37:21,781 --> 00:37:23,491 when maybe others were expected to. 673 00:37:23,574 --> 00:37:27,995 You know, he, he, he left me in charge. 674 00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:30,331 The way he had set up the business, 675 00:37:30,414 --> 00:37:32,416 it wasn't being successful. 676 00:37:32,500 --> 00:37:37,505 And he had told me that I had the ability through the trust 677 00:37:37,588 --> 00:37:39,048 to make changes. 678 00:37:39,131 --> 00:37:43,261 And I'm relieved to hear that he said I stepped up to the plate 679 00:37:43,344 --> 00:37:47,098 because that was probably one of the hardest things I've ever had to do, 680 00:37:47,181 --> 00:37:49,892 a couple of years ago, was make the changes 681 00:37:49,976 --> 00:37:54,605 in order to get that success that he wanted it to be. 682 00:37:54,689 --> 00:37:57,233 Envisioned. That makes sense. I love that. 683 00:37:58,276 --> 00:38:00,861 I'm gonna think about him as I move forward in my life. 684 00:38:00,945 --> 00:38:03,698 Because he and his impact here today was special for me, 685 00:38:03,781 --> 00:38:06,325 so I'm so thankful to be able to talk to you today. 686 00:38:06,409 --> 00:38:07,618 I hope to see you again. 687 00:38:07,702 --> 00:38:10,246 It'd be great if I could get you to come to a game. 688 00:38:10,329 --> 00:38:12,790 -You know it. -I would appreciate it. 689 00:38:12,873 --> 00:38:16,168 -You'd be very popular, I think. -I would love it. 690 00:38:16,252 --> 00:38:19,422 -Everybody would come up to you. -I'd love to go. We'll figure it out. 691 00:38:19,505 --> 00:38:22,925 Isn't there someone in your family that's a huge fan of basketball? 692 00:38:23,009 --> 00:38:24,844 Of basketball? Who are you thinking of? 693 00:38:24,927 --> 00:38:25,886 Your mom. 694 00:38:25,970 --> 00:38:27,972 My mom? You know what, that's right. 695 00:38:28,055 --> 00:38:30,933 -My mom is a huge basketball fan. -Is she really? 696 00:38:31,017 --> 00:38:34,270 I'd love to meet your mom and have you bring her to a game. 697 00:38:34,353 --> 00:38:36,314 I think you'd have a great time. 698 00:38:36,397 --> 00:38:38,774 So we'd really love that. 699 00:38:38,858 --> 00:38:41,777 Like everyone else, I went on his website, 700 00:38:41,861 --> 00:38:43,946 and I signed up on the waiting list, 701 00:38:44,030 --> 00:38:46,615 hoping that someday, my name would be called, 702 00:38:46,699 --> 00:38:49,285 and I would have an opportunity to sit with him. 703 00:38:52,455 --> 00:38:55,875 And, um, he can make that connection. 704 00:38:55,958 --> 00:38:57,293 He's very special. 705 00:38:57,376 --> 00:38:59,170 It sounds like you had a big day. 706 00:38:59,253 --> 00:39:01,172 Oh, it was huge. It was crazy. 707 00:39:01,255 --> 00:39:05,426 It was the… that was the daughter of the founder for the Lakers. 708 00:39:05,509 --> 00:39:07,595 -What? -Yeah, her name is Jeanie. 709 00:39:08,429 --> 00:39:10,890 -You met Jeanie Buss? -Yeah. 710 00:39:13,184 --> 00:39:14,852 Oh my God. 711 00:39:14,935 --> 00:39:19,565 I feel a sense of relief, and happiness, and connectedness, 712 00:39:19,648 --> 00:39:21,859 and just a nice… 713 00:39:22,443 --> 00:39:24,236 like, I feel like I got a hug. 714 00:39:25,446 --> 00:39:26,697 From your dad? 715 00:39:31,077 --> 00:39:32,203 It's really nice. 716 00:39:43,506 --> 00:39:45,591 -All right. I'm ready. -Let's go. 717 00:39:47,676 --> 00:39:50,012 It'll be good to see Felicia and Peter. 718 00:39:52,264 --> 00:39:54,433 Hopefully, they have some answers. 719 00:39:54,517 --> 00:39:57,728 -Or can give you their perspective. -Yeah. 720 00:39:57,812 --> 00:40:00,689 I'm going to Hanford because I wanna learn more about 721 00:40:00,773 --> 00:40:03,484 what happened to my mom's family. 722 00:40:03,567 --> 00:40:05,694 I'm glad I'm doing this today alone, 723 00:40:05,778 --> 00:40:08,197 just because it's such a sensitive thing. 724 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,368 I didn't want my mom to be here because I'm very protective of her 725 00:40:12,910 --> 00:40:16,705 and just didn't want to trigger anything in her. 726 00:40:16,789 --> 00:40:19,375 I want Felicia and Peter to be able to talk openly, 727 00:40:19,458 --> 00:40:23,337 without worrying how she'll feel about it. 728 00:40:35,141 --> 00:40:36,809 I haven't seen them for a while 729 00:40:36,892 --> 00:40:39,311 because I don't go to Hanford very often. 730 00:40:39,395 --> 00:40:41,730 It doesn't evoke happy memories for me. 731 00:40:41,814 --> 00:40:45,401 It was a time in my life that was categorized by pain, 732 00:40:45,484 --> 00:40:48,112 and not seeing a way out, and feeling trapped, 733 00:40:48,195 --> 00:40:50,281 and wishing I was somebody else. 734 00:40:59,331 --> 00:41:01,542 I've never seen this side of Hanford. 735 00:41:03,752 --> 00:41:07,047 There's not a part I haven't seen, but it's been a while. 736 00:41:13,304 --> 00:41:15,139 This area looks like Georgia. 737 00:41:15,222 --> 00:41:16,056 Yeah. 738 00:41:17,766 --> 00:41:19,185 Very conservative. 739 00:41:20,603 --> 00:41:23,772 This is where Stella murdered people 740 00:41:24,690 --> 00:41:26,192 and done a lot of bad things. 741 00:41:27,693 --> 00:41:29,403 There's something very evil there. 742 00:41:29,487 --> 00:41:33,407 I mean, there's more that we don't know that is just very dark. 743 00:41:43,709 --> 00:41:45,503 I'll introduce you at another time. 744 00:41:46,337 --> 00:41:47,963 This is such a heavy thing. 745 00:41:48,047 --> 00:41:50,466 -Yeah, I'm good. -Probably not the best time. 746 00:41:51,175 --> 00:41:52,510 I'll tell you how it goes. 747 00:41:56,305 --> 00:41:58,098 I'm okay. I'm all right. 748 00:41:58,182 --> 00:42:00,184 -Okay, is this good? -This works. 749 00:42:00,267 --> 00:42:02,645 -All right. I'll be back. -Okay, will do. 750 00:42:02,728 --> 00:42:04,146 All right. Ah. 751 00:42:05,814 --> 00:42:07,691 -Hello! -Hurry up, Tyler! 752 00:42:07,775 --> 00:42:10,152 -I'm running. I brought brownies! -Oh my God! 753 00:42:10,694 --> 00:42:14,448 -How's it going? Oh, you look beautiful. -Oh my God, you're so pretty. 754 00:42:14,949 --> 00:42:16,742 Oh. 755 00:42:16,825 --> 00:42:18,827 Oh! 756 00:42:19,787 --> 00:42:21,705 You're looking great! 757 00:42:21,789 --> 00:42:24,458 You're too cute! How are you doing, Mr. Griller? 758 00:42:24,542 --> 00:42:27,586 -Hey, how do you like your ribs? -You know what? I like carrots. 759 00:42:27,670 --> 00:42:29,880 But I brought brownies, so I'm making up for it. 760 00:42:29,964 --> 00:42:31,757 We were talking about your mom, how-- 761 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,718 -That's right. I made those, though. -Oh, you did? 762 00:42:34,802 --> 00:42:37,263 Better watch out 'cause I'm not a very good cook. 763 00:42:37,346 --> 00:42:40,558 -You remember the last time you saw us? -It's been like seven years. 764 00:42:40,641 --> 00:42:42,226 -That is a long time. -Yes. 765 00:42:42,309 --> 00:42:45,688 -It's been a while. -Pass me that potato salad. 766 00:42:45,771 --> 00:42:47,314 Absolutely, there you go. 767 00:42:47,815 --> 00:42:49,149 So, how have you been? 768 00:42:49,233 --> 00:42:52,194 I've been good. Just staying busy, with everything going on. 769 00:42:52,820 --> 00:42:56,282 Obviously, you know a lot's evolved in the past couple years. 770 00:42:56,365 --> 00:42:57,241 -My mom. -I know. 771 00:42:57,324 --> 00:42:59,368 It all started with a DNA test. 772 00:42:59,451 --> 00:43:02,162 -That really threw us. -That was kind of crazy. 773 00:43:02,246 --> 00:43:03,914 It threw all of us. We were shocked. 774 00:43:03,998 --> 00:43:06,959 I'm just so thankful that you all are still in my life. 775 00:43:07,042 --> 00:43:09,587 Well, I tell you like your mama, go ahead, I don't care. 776 00:43:09,670 --> 00:43:11,380 She's always gonna be my sister. 777 00:43:11,463 --> 00:43:13,674 -You're always gonna be my nephew. -Exactly. 778 00:43:13,757 --> 00:43:16,260 You can't cut off emotions because somebody told you 779 00:43:16,343 --> 00:43:18,804 they're not your sister or brother. Know what I mean? 780 00:43:18,887 --> 00:43:21,599 I was having that conversation on the way here. 781 00:43:21,682 --> 00:43:28,188 There's no way we could ever think of Theresa as not family. 782 00:43:28,272 --> 00:43:30,733 -Yeah. Of course. -I mean, there's no way. 783 00:43:32,693 --> 00:43:36,614 See, Mom left for a year, and then she came back. 784 00:43:36,697 --> 00:43:39,450 Then she left for another year, and came back. 785 00:43:39,533 --> 00:43:41,827 And when she came back, she had Theresa. 786 00:43:42,578 --> 00:43:45,039 -I see. -And I was holding her in my arms. 787 00:43:45,122 --> 00:43:46,206 She was so cute. 788 00:43:46,290 --> 00:43:49,460 She was like an angel light to me. 789 00:43:50,461 --> 00:43:52,171 -You're a survivor. -Yeah. 790 00:43:52,254 --> 00:43:54,006 -Oh, big time. -Yeah. 791 00:43:54,089 --> 00:43:56,467 -Been through hell. -It's why I want to do this. 792 00:43:56,550 --> 00:44:00,137 Why I wanted to meet with you both is because you showed such resilience 793 00:44:00,220 --> 00:44:01,263 in going through this-- 794 00:44:01,347 --> 00:44:03,682 Yeah, I'm surprised I'm not a druggie. 795 00:44:03,766 --> 00:44:06,101 -That's commendable! -Or living on the street. 796 00:44:06,185 --> 00:44:08,937 -Or in jail or anything. -People are going to be inspired. 797 00:44:09,021 --> 00:44:14,234 Because… my story, I mean, it's just, lived in torture. 798 00:44:14,318 --> 00:44:16,278 -Yeah. -You know, for years. 799 00:44:16,362 --> 00:44:19,615 What Peter had to go through, and everybody involved. 800 00:44:19,698 --> 00:44:23,577 You know what? That's the one thing I cannot forgive Mom for. 801 00:44:23,661 --> 00:44:25,537 -Understandable. -What she did to Pete. 802 00:44:25,621 --> 00:44:28,082 -Of course. -I could get over what she did to me. 803 00:44:28,165 --> 00:44:31,919 But not to my brother. I will never, never forgive her for that. 804 00:44:32,002 --> 00:44:33,420 -I understand. -It was horrible. 805 00:44:33,504 --> 00:44:34,755 -Yeah. -I warned Pete. 806 00:44:34,838 --> 00:44:39,301 -I told him, I go, "You be careful." -Yeah. She did. She did. 807 00:44:40,928 --> 00:44:44,139 She created so much anger, and divisiveness, and chaos. 808 00:44:44,223 --> 00:44:46,850 -All your feelings are warranted there. -Yes. 809 00:44:46,934 --> 00:44:50,437 I never even have had the chance to speak to her, and she 810 00:44:50,521 --> 00:44:52,356 deeply infuriates me. 811 00:44:52,439 --> 00:44:55,317 Not only what she did to my mom, but to you and Peter. 812 00:44:55,401 --> 00:44:58,445 It seems like everyone she touched in some way was negative. 813 00:44:58,529 --> 00:45:00,489 Yeah. She was just cruel. 814 00:45:00,572 --> 00:45:02,199 -Needlessly. -Cruel and evil. 815 00:45:02,282 --> 00:45:03,492 No reason behind it. 816 00:45:03,575 --> 00:45:06,954 And I just, you know, and I always thought if I'd be real good… 817 00:45:07,037 --> 00:45:10,082 -Yeah. -You know, she won't hit me this time. 818 00:45:10,165 --> 00:45:11,709 -It's not about that. -Or anything. 819 00:45:11,792 --> 00:45:15,129 -I'd be scared to come home from school. -I know. 820 00:45:15,212 --> 00:45:18,632 You know, it was just a horrible life growing up in that house. 821 00:45:18,716 --> 00:45:19,550 Yeah. 822 00:45:20,259 --> 00:45:21,593 I just hated her. 823 00:45:21,677 --> 00:45:24,263 -After 13, I started hating her. -Yeah. 824 00:45:25,431 --> 00:45:27,516 -It was just a nightmare. -Yeah. 825 00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:31,729 Theresa understands what I went through because she went through a lot. 826 00:45:31,812 --> 00:45:32,980 Like I did. 827 00:45:33,063 --> 00:45:37,443 That was just so surreal for me to hear for the first time. 828 00:45:37,526 --> 00:45:41,530 I've never realized what they had to really deal with. 829 00:45:42,030 --> 00:45:44,658 I see my mom wake up in the middle of the night. 830 00:45:44,742 --> 00:45:46,326 She has PTSD really badly, 831 00:45:46,410 --> 00:45:49,037 and I've traveled with her across the country, 832 00:45:49,121 --> 00:45:50,956 and I'll hear her in the other room 833 00:45:51,749 --> 00:45:56,086 at night, just saying in her sleep, "I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared." 834 00:45:56,170 --> 00:45:58,255 I hurt for my mom in a way I can't even convey 835 00:45:58,338 --> 00:46:01,049 because there's a lot more there that we don't know.