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[ocean waves sloshing, crashing]

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[seagulls squawking]

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[Pamela] Oh. What have I got in here?

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[birds chirping]

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[Pamela] God. I'm scared.
This is not naked, I hope.

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[on TV] <i>Baby, I'm recording you.</i>

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<i>I love my Pamela.</i>

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[Pamela] <i>Your Palema?</i>

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I didn't know I had all these tapes here.

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[Pamela] <i>No, you see... </i>
[laughing]

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[Tommy] <i>The very incredible Pam.</i>

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- [Pamela] <i>Baby.</i>
- [laughs]

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[Tommy] <i>Oh, this is awesome.</i>

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Oh my God.

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<i>Baby, you're ruining it
with a cigarette.</i>

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- [Tommy] <i>Yeah.
- You've been shunned.</i>

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<i>You're ruining it with your breath.</i>

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<i>My breath?</i>

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[Tommy chuckling]

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[Pamela] God, this is crazy to see.

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[nostalgic music playing]

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[man] <i>What is going on?</i>

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<i>I don't know.</i>

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[man] <i>Look at this guy.</i>

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[Pamela] <i>Oh my God.</i>

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[man] <i>Oh wow.</i>

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[Pamela] <i>Wow.</i>

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<i>Pamela, I have said it before,
and I'll say it again.</i>

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<i>I have waited my entire life
to meet a woman as wonderful as you.</i>

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<i>I've only ever wanted to be
your knight in shining armor.</i>

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<i>So here I am.</i>

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<i>Come, my angel, take my hand.</i>

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<i>Would you marry me again?</i>

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[Pamela] <i>Yes. </i>
[giggling]

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[crowd cheering]

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[crowd] <i>Bye!</i>

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[Tommy] <i>Bye, guys.</i>

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[indistinct chatter, chuckling]

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[Pamela sighing]

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<i>Tonight, June 1st...</i>

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Hearing the tone of my voice, I was happy.

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When I saw those videos,
I got so emotional 'cause I thought,

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that was it,
that was my time to really be in love.

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Right now, I feel like it's almost like
I'm looking for something.

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[Tommy] <i>Whoa, baby. You look so beautiful.</i>

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[Pamela] And I really don't know
where I'm gonna go next. I feel restless.

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I'm looking for a feeling I can't find.

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[upbeat music playing]

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Please welcome Pamela Anderson!

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[audience cheering]

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Pamela Anderson is
this generation's sultry sex goddess.

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[anchor 1] Hollywood
and the blonde bombshell.

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[Conan] International superstar
from her role on <i>Baywatch</i>...

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[anchor 2] ...is perhaps
the most famous blonde on the planet.

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Whether she's racing across the sands
of Malibu in her red lifeguard suit,

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or posing on the cover of <i>Playboy</i>.

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I'm Pamela Anderson, Miss February 1990.

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[Jon] You do the <i>Playboy </i>and <i>Baywatch</i>.

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The whole exploitation angle,
do you worry about that?

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- No.
- [Jon] Fair enough, let's move on.

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[audience laughing]

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[paparazzi] Tommy, Pamela, turn around!

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[anchor 3] Pamela wed Tommy Lee four days
after meeting the Mötley Crüe drummer.

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[Larry King] Why do you think
printed materials are so obsessed

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with your sex or love life?

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[Pamela] Maybe the tape
had something to do with it.

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[anchor 4] That infamous sex tape
stolen from their home.

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[Letterman] How many times have you
been married? You've married four times?

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One man can't do it all.

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[all laughing]

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[Pamela] If they've heard
any of the tabloid rumors,

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it paints a whole idea of another person
and who I am.

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So hopefully, I can only surprise people.

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- [Larry King] You're not an actress?
- [Pamela] No.

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- [Larry King] What are you?
- [Pamela] I don't know yet.

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- What do you wanna be when you grow up?
- You tell me. I don't know.

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[music continues]

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[music fades]

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[lawn mower starting]

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[Pamela] Hi, Mom.

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[gentle music playing]

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[Pamela] I'm here.

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I'm living in the house that I grew up in,

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which is triggering and crazy,

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just like marrying a rock star.

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It's like coming home to this nutty place
where, you know, my childhood happened.

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Okay, good girl.

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I've always come home
when I have some kind of trouble going on,

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and I always kinda know
what I'm doing when I leave.

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It's, like, the truth serum.

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You sit in the middle of that field,

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you look at the stars,

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and everything comes to you.

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[seagulls squawking]

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[Pamela] Oh my God. [giggling]

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This is not an easy beach to film.
This is not California.

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[Pamela chuckling]

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Believe me, I can't run
in slow motion on this beach.

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April 1st,
my dad would pick me out of bed,

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put me over his shoulder,
and throw me in the water.

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Like, happy April Fool's.

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That was the first day we were allowed
to be in the ocean, swimming.

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And we had to swim, April 1st,
and it is freezing here.

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And see where the brick wall is?
That's where my house was.

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It was a tiny little shack.

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[nostalgic music playing]

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[Pamela] My mom was a waitress,
and she worked at Smitty's Pancake House.

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But my dad was a poker player,

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con man, chimney sweep
with a top hat and everything.

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Everyone has a story about my father,
the notorious bad boy of Ladysmith.

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My dad liked to race cars.

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And my mom has a scar
across her whole forehead.

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because her head went through
the windshield while pregnant with me.

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And we like to joke that's probably
the reason I'm a little bit crazy.

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[Pamela chuckling]

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[woman] I love the island.

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Living by the water.

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People are very friendly.

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Ladysmith is a beautiful little town.

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And Vancouver Island is the place to be.

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[chuckling]

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Pamela was born July 1st, '67.

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She hit the paper the minute she was born.

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Pam was the first centennial baby.

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So they issued medals
for babies born that day.

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[man] Pamela was always at the store.

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And I'd go up there and they would say,

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"That'll be $50 for Pamela's bill."

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And I says, "Bill? What bill?"

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She says, "Well, she charges up
chocolate bars here

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and puts it on the tab." [chuckles]

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She was a little rebellious, all right.

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[chuckling]

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[Pamela] My parents were married

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I think when they were, like, 17 and 19,
when Mom was pregnant with me.

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So they were just still raging.

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And my dad drank a lot.

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They fought quite a bit.

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A lot of name-calling
and physical abuse too.

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My mom was vacuuming during a hockey game.

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So my dad picked up the vacuum cleaner,
and threw it over her head,

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over the thing, onto the beach.

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No vacuuming when there's hockey on.

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I just kinda knew
when to take my brother out.

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We just had to wait
for them to stop screaming,

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then we'd come in and they'd be, like,
up against the wall, or on the table,

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just kissing, or throwing themselves
in the room, slamming the door,

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and we thought,
"Okay. Well, that's better."

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Felt like the same energy,
though. [chuckling]

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[inaudible]

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[Pamela] We ended up leaving my dad
a couple times.

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[somber music playing]

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We were living in an apartment
and we were living on welfare.

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Powdered milk, all the... I just...
I can taste the powdered milk right now.

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I remember when my dad called.

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There was mail by the phone.

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I gave him the address where we were,
and he came and got us

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and we moved back to the island.

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Then they didn't wanna move back
to Ladysmith,

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too many bad memories,
I guess, for my mom,

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so they just moved
a couple towns up. [chuckling]

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So, there. She put her foot down.

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But I realized
no one has a perfect childhood.

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I had some horrible things happen
when I was little.

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I had a babysitter.

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And my parents thought
she was a great babysitter

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'cause she brought presents all the time,

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but she was molesting me.

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It was, like,
three or four years of abuse.

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She always told me not to tell my parents.

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I tried to protect my brother from her.

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I tried to kill her.

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I tried to stab her in the heart
with a candy cane pen.

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And then I told her I wanted her to die.
She died in a car accident next day.

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So, I thought I killed her with my mind
and I couldn't tell anybody.

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But I was sure that I did it.
That I wished her dead and she died.

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I lived with that
my whole really young life.

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When those traumatic moments happen,
I would just leave my body

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and float away,
and I'd make my own little world.

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I was digging a hole to China, thinking,

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"I hate this, I hate this.
I wanna get outta here."

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I just thought
I had to get off the island.

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As I got older,
I was, like, a little tomboy.

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I was a gymnast and so I was tiny.

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I bloomed very late.

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Then I got one lump on my chest,

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and I was rehearsing for a long time
how to tell my mom I was dying of cancer.

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'Cause I thought it was cancer,
I tried to pound it back into my chest.

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And when I finally told her, she laughed
and said, "Oh, you're becoming a woman."

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Then everything was like, bam, bam, bam,
and then crazy from there.

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And so it began. [chuckling]

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And now here we are.

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More than two lumps later. [laughing]

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[birds chirping]

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[objects clattering]

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[Pamela] What's this?

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Oh my God.

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For some reason,
when I was traveling around the world,

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everything that was important to me,
I sent here.

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I figured one day I'd get here.

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But I didn't realize
it was gonna be so soon

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'cause now I'm here surrounded
by my stuff.

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[paper rustling]

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I kept diaries and stuff from my childhood
and all the events in my life.

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There's just tons of yellow legal pads.

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I mean, basically,
my life is all yellow legal pads.

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I wanted to write things down
in case I forgot them.

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So I wrote down things thinking,

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if something were to ever happen to me,
that there'd be evidence.

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Sometimes I was writing like that,

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and sometimes
I was writing out my feelings,

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not thinking anyone would ever see it.

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[director]
Since you've given us your journals,

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I was wondering,

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are you open to reading them in the film?

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Or what are you thinking about that?

217
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I don't know if I want
to go there and read them.

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I don't even think
I'll watch this documentary.

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I mean, I just don't... I like to do things
just for the experience of doing it.

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I wanna move on
with the next part of my life.

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So, it might give you more access
if you have somebody else read them

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because I might say,
"I don't wanna read this or that."

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So, it's just, like,
you can... you have my permission.

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It's tough to go through it again

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'cause you go through it again like you're
going through it for the first time.

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It's... it's painful.

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[somber music playing]

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[seagulls squawking]

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[Pamela] <i>"I'm glad I got this diary."</i>

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<i>"It should really help."</i>

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<i>"Maybe I'll write a book one day."</i>

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<i>"I love words."</i>

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<i>"They send me
leaving this ludicrous situation behind."</i>

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<i>"Come with me. I'm paving the way."</i>

235
00:11:25,851 --> 00:11:27,812
<i>"The world opens when I write."</i>

236
00:11:29,355 --> 00:11:33,234
<i>"In school, I always wrote stories
about parents deserting their children."</i>

237
00:11:33,734 --> 00:11:35,403
<i>"I must have been hurting a lot."</i>

238
00:11:36,445 --> 00:11:38,531
<i>"Life keeps playing tricks on me."</i>

239
00:11:38,614 --> 00:11:41,242
<i>"I try to find ways to be seen
amongst the nonsense."</i>

240
00:11:43,452 --> 00:11:46,872
<i>"I know everyone creates
their own level of drama in their lives."</i>

241
00:11:47,623 --> 00:11:49,083
<i>"Some more than others."</i>

242
00:11:50,418 --> 00:11:53,713
<i>"I guess you could say
I'm very creative or very dramatic."</i>

243
00:11:55,005 --> 00:11:56,005
<i>"Who knows?"</i>

244
00:11:56,507 --> 00:11:58,300
<i>"XO, Pamela."</i>

245
00:12:01,220 --> 00:12:04,849
From the beginning, I've been drawn
to different types of bad guys.

246
00:12:06,517 --> 00:12:07,768
One of my first boyfriends,

247
00:12:07,852 --> 00:12:10,396
he had a habit of trying to chase me
and run me off the road.

248
00:12:10,479 --> 00:12:12,398
Like, run me over if he saw me.

249
00:12:13,399 --> 00:12:14,984
He kicked me out of a moving car,

250
00:12:15,067 --> 00:12:17,278
and I did a gymnastic dismount
into a ditch.

251
00:12:17,361 --> 00:12:18,487
[laughing]

252
00:12:18,571 --> 00:12:20,906
So... things that come in handy.

253
00:12:22,867 --> 00:12:26,746
After I graduated, I wanted to see
what was over in Vancouver.

254
00:12:27,705 --> 00:12:31,041
And when you grow up on an island,
the mainland is a very scary place.

255
00:12:32,126 --> 00:12:33,043
And my mom would say,

256
00:12:33,127 --> 00:12:35,546
"You can't go to Vancouver
'cause someone got shot in Texas."

257
00:12:35,629 --> 00:12:38,382
I was like,
"That's pretty far away from Vancouver."

258
00:12:38,466 --> 00:12:41,844
And she'd go, "It's all attached.
Don't go to the mainland!"

259
00:12:43,429 --> 00:12:46,474
I went on the ferry, and I got there,
and eventually I met somebody.

260
00:12:47,558 --> 00:12:48,559
I moved in with him,

261
00:12:49,685 --> 00:12:52,021
and he was having an affair with somebody.

262
00:12:52,730 --> 00:12:55,000
When you see your boyfriend
washing his penis in the sink,

263
00:12:55,024 --> 00:12:57,693
that's a sign that
they're probably having an affair.

264
00:12:57,777 --> 00:13:02,323
And I wrote down,
"Washing penis in the sink, suspicious."

265
00:13:03,073 --> 00:13:05,201
[laughing]

266
00:13:05,284 --> 00:13:07,554
Looking back, it's funny.
In the moment, you're horrified.

267
00:13:07,578 --> 00:13:09,580
[pensive music playing]

268
00:13:13,209 --> 00:13:16,921
My girlfriend had friends
who were Labatt's beer representatives

269
00:13:17,004 --> 00:13:19,048
and they had free tickets
to a football game.

270
00:13:19,131 --> 00:13:20,800
BC Lions, Canadian football.

271
00:13:21,425 --> 00:13:22,718
And I didn't even wanna go.

272
00:13:22,802 --> 00:13:25,554
I mean, I wasn't interested in football,
but she really wanted to go.

273
00:13:26,055 --> 00:13:28,349
So we went to the stadium,

274
00:13:28,432 --> 00:13:30,559
and we're all wearing
the Labatt's beer T-shirts.

275
00:13:31,602 --> 00:13:34,438
The cameraman zoomed in on me,
and put me up on the jumbotron.

276
00:13:34,939 --> 00:13:37,441
And I remember seeing it going,
"Oh my God, that's me."

277
00:13:37,525 --> 00:13:38,651
I couldn't believe it.

278
00:13:39,568 --> 00:13:41,529
And my friend
that was with me worked for Labatt's

279
00:13:41,612 --> 00:13:43,412
and he said,
"Stand up and show your T-shirt."

280
00:13:43,447 --> 00:13:47,284
So, I stood up and they had me kind of
going back and forth on the jumbotron.

281
00:13:48,869 --> 00:13:52,039
They brought me down to the 50-yard line
and they asked me to do a draw.

282
00:13:52,122 --> 00:13:55,042
So I had to pick a number out of a bowl.

283
00:13:55,125 --> 00:13:57,545
And I remember looking up and thinking,

284
00:13:57,628 --> 00:13:59,797
"It looks like a million eraser heads
in the stands."

285
00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:01,966
Like, it was just huge and just...

286
00:14:02,049 --> 00:14:04,093
[crowd cheering]

287
00:14:04,176 --> 00:14:06,595
[Pamela] They started calling me
the "Blue Zone Girl."

288
00:14:07,763 --> 00:14:11,308
And then Labatt's reached out to me
to do a commercial for them.

289
00:14:12,518 --> 00:14:13,519
And a poster.

290
00:14:14,436 --> 00:14:17,565
Then it was on Monday Night Football ads,
and then it was all over the place.

291
00:14:17,648 --> 00:14:18,983
[phone ringing]

292
00:14:20,150 --> 00:14:23,279
Not too long after that
my phone rang and I picked it up.

293
00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,448
This woman says, "It's Marilyn Grabowski
from <i>Playboy</i>,

294
00:14:26,532 --> 00:14:28,134
and we want you to be on a... some cover."

295
00:14:28,158 --> 00:14:29,158
And I was like...

296
00:14:30,077 --> 00:14:31,078
"<i>Playboy</i>?"

297
00:14:31,871 --> 00:14:34,206
And she goes, "Yes,
we've been looking all over the world

298
00:14:34,290 --> 00:14:37,918
for this October '89 cover
and we think it should be you."

299
00:14:38,752 --> 00:14:40,796
I was like, "You think it should be me?"

300
00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,090
"So is it for real or is it not?"

301
00:14:43,173 --> 00:14:45,551
She goes, "It's for real, guaranteed."

302
00:14:45,634 --> 00:14:47,261
[upbeat music playing]

303
00:14:47,845 --> 00:14:50,180
[Pamela] And then they were going
to get me down to LA,

304
00:14:50,264 --> 00:14:52,600
but I'd never been on a plane before.

305
00:14:52,683 --> 00:14:54,685
And so I had my problems at the airport.

306
00:14:55,269 --> 00:14:58,606
And they said, "What are you doing in LA?"
And I said, "I'm posing for <i>Playboy</i>!"

307
00:14:58,689 --> 00:15:02,568
And I remember showing them my letter
I got from Hefner, and they were like,

308
00:15:02,651 --> 00:15:04,838
"Oh no, no. You're Canadian,
you can't work in America."

309
00:15:04,862 --> 00:15:06,363
And I was like, "What?"

310
00:15:07,531 --> 00:15:10,159
So I went in the bathroom,
I changed my clothes, I put a hat on,

311
00:15:10,242 --> 00:15:11,535
and I went to another airline.

312
00:15:11,619 --> 00:15:15,539
I get there, and the same lady
was there like this, like, "Nice try."

313
00:15:15,623 --> 00:15:17,124
I was like, "Oh my God."

314
00:15:17,207 --> 00:15:20,294
So the only other way to get through,
get on a Greyhound bus.

315
00:15:20,878 --> 00:15:24,089
And sometimes they check you,
sometimes they don't across the border.

316
00:15:24,173 --> 00:15:25,549
It really made me nervous.

317
00:15:26,550 --> 00:15:28,987
But they only checked
the person in front of me and behind me.

318
00:15:29,011 --> 00:15:31,805
So I got into America, to Seattle.

319
00:15:33,432 --> 00:15:36,352
Then the next morning I got on the plane
and they got me down to LA.

320
00:15:41,649 --> 00:15:42,649
<i>"Arriving."</i>

321
00:15:43,651 --> 00:15:45,778
<i>"Off the plane, big city LA."</i>

322
00:15:46,695 --> 00:15:49,198
<i>"I go straight to the guy
holding the bunny sign."</i>

323
00:15:49,823 --> 00:15:50,824
<i>"Very low-key."</i>

324
00:15:51,867 --> 00:15:53,827
And I landed on gay Pride day.

325
00:15:53,911 --> 00:15:55,788
So I called my mom and said,

326
00:15:55,871 --> 00:15:59,291
"Gay people exist, they walk around
handcuffed together in pink hot shorts."

327
00:15:59,375 --> 00:16:02,127
She goes... [gasps]
"You've arrived." [laughing]

328
00:16:03,337 --> 00:16:06,715
<i>"I get out of the limo,
out of the front seat of course."</i>

329
00:16:07,466 --> 00:16:10,469
<i>"I thank him way too much
for letting me sit up there."</i>

330
00:16:10,552 --> 00:16:12,721
<i>"There was no one to talk to in the back."</i>

331
00:16:13,639 --> 00:16:16,684
The limo pulls up around the fountain
and they bring you in.

332
00:16:16,767 --> 00:16:19,561
The Playboy Mansion is
like a castle, basically.

333
00:16:20,646 --> 00:16:22,106
<i>"Marilyn rushes out,</i>

334
00:16:22,940 --> 00:16:24,608
<i>looks me up and down."</i>

335
00:16:24,692 --> 00:16:27,194
<i>"I'm sure she's going to say, 'Go home.'"</i>

336
00:16:27,277 --> 00:16:28,445
<i>"I'm a mess."</i>

337
00:16:29,196 --> 00:16:31,699
<i>"But she tells me
they're so happy I'm here."</i>

338
00:16:33,075 --> 00:16:34,660
<i>"I'm lost in amazement."</i>

339
00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,789
<i>"Fifteen-foot posters of naked women
all up and down the halls."</i>

340
00:16:39,707 --> 00:16:41,917
[lively music playing]

341
00:16:42,001 --> 00:16:44,962
[Pamela] The environment
was the sex, drugs, rock-and-roll

342
00:16:45,045 --> 00:16:46,714
kind of underground art world.

343
00:16:46,797 --> 00:16:50,134
And... But I thought to myself,
I think I knew who this person was.

344
00:16:50,217 --> 00:16:53,387
Is that Tony Curtis?
Was that Scott Baio and Sean Penn?

345
00:16:53,470 --> 00:16:55,597
And just beautiful women
in long silk gowns,

346
00:16:55,681 --> 00:16:57,441
like Monique St-Pierre
with the cropped hair,

347
00:16:57,474 --> 00:16:58,892
kind of like Michelle Pfeiffer.

348
00:16:58,976 --> 00:17:02,396
<i>"A girl goes running by
in a bathrobe, giggling."</i>

349
00:17:02,479 --> 00:17:06,108
<i>"Then another one comes out and chases her
with a glass of champagne."</i>

350
00:17:06,608 --> 00:17:08,318
<i>"Wow, gorgeous."</i>

351
00:17:09,111 --> 00:17:11,196
<i>"I feel very average at this point."</i>

352
00:17:11,864 --> 00:17:14,491
I was there in my acid-wash jeans,
my Nirvana T-shirt,

353
00:17:14,575 --> 00:17:17,494
and I was obsessed with those socks
with balls on the back.

354
00:17:19,288 --> 00:17:21,999
<i>"It looks like
they're going to have to color my hair."</i>

355
00:17:22,499 --> 00:17:23,959
I got that Sun-In stuff

356
00:17:24,043 --> 00:17:26,712
and I had sprayed my whole head
with it as much as possible

357
00:17:26,795 --> 00:17:28,338
'cause I wanted a few highlights,

358
00:17:28,422 --> 00:17:31,175
and my hair basically turned into
the color of a manila envelope.

359
00:17:31,258 --> 00:17:33,218
It was not a pretty color.

360
00:17:33,802 --> 00:17:36,680
So when I got to Playboy,
that's the first thing they did.

361
00:17:37,181 --> 00:17:38,861
Put my whole hair
in tinfoil and everything

362
00:17:38,932 --> 00:17:41,393
just to make it look
like a natural kind of color.

363
00:17:42,519 --> 00:17:46,231
<i>"This is definitely as blond
as I've ever gone, but I'm thankful."</i>

364
00:17:46,732 --> 00:17:49,401
<i>"I feel blessed and embarrassed
at the same time."</i>

365
00:17:49,985 --> 00:17:51,445
<i>"What am I doing here?"</i>

366
00:17:54,198 --> 00:17:56,700
When I was young, I was painfully shy.

367
00:17:57,284 --> 00:17:58,368
I hated my body.

368
00:18:00,621 --> 00:18:03,373
I remember seeing <i>Playboy </i>magazines,
my dad had them.

369
00:18:03,457 --> 00:18:05,057
Hidden under
his <i>Donald Duck</i> comic books,

370
00:18:05,084 --> 00:18:07,684
but I saw them and I thought,
"God, these women are so beautiful."

371
00:18:07,711 --> 00:18:09,463
"Like, why don't I look like that?"

372
00:18:11,381 --> 00:18:14,468
And I always thought girls were beautiful
and guys were beautiful in school,

373
00:18:14,551 --> 00:18:16,470
but I never thought I was one of them.

374
00:18:17,721 --> 00:18:20,182
And with the things
that I went through as a kid,

375
00:18:20,265 --> 00:18:21,975
I had so much shame about my body,

376
00:18:22,059 --> 00:18:24,812
so much shame
about what had happened to me.

377
00:18:24,895 --> 00:18:26,897
[somber music playing]

378
00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,151
[Pamela] <i>"I was 12, 13-years-old
with my friend."</i>

379
00:18:31,777 --> 00:18:34,404
<i>"She had a crush on a guy
much older than us."</i>

380
00:18:35,197 --> 00:18:36,865
<i>"We went to a friend's condo."</i>

381
00:18:37,366 --> 00:18:40,285
<i>"She went upstairs
with the guy she had a crush on."</i>

382
00:18:40,369 --> 00:18:43,122
<i>"I started to play backgammon
with her friend downstairs</i>

383
00:18:43,205 --> 00:18:44,998
<i>while I waited for her."</i>

384
00:18:45,082 --> 00:18:49,378
<i>"We played for a while until he said
I looked like I needed a massage."</i>

385
00:18:50,838 --> 00:18:53,507
<i>"He was 25, I was 12."</i>

386
00:18:54,550 --> 00:18:55,801
<i>"He raped me."</i>

387
00:18:59,888 --> 00:19:01,765
<i>"I felt like it was my fault."</i>

388
00:19:03,058 --> 00:19:05,811
<i>"My mom was always crying about my dad."</i>

389
00:19:05,894 --> 00:19:07,938
<i>"I couldn't bear to hurt her more."</i>

390
00:19:08,522 --> 00:19:10,816
<i>"I didn't tell her or anyone."</i>

391
00:19:12,109 --> 00:19:13,318
I tried to forget it.

392
00:19:13,819 --> 00:19:17,239
I tried to forget it, but I felt like
it was tattooed on my forehead.

393
00:19:17,322 --> 00:19:20,951
Like, I really had this image
of "I had sex" on my forehead

394
00:19:21,034 --> 00:19:22,914
when I didn't want anyone to know
that I had it.

395
00:19:24,788 --> 00:19:29,751
Those were kind of my first exposure
to sexual experiences too, so

396
00:19:30,669 --> 00:19:32,296
I think a lot of confusion.

397
00:19:33,672 --> 00:19:35,465
What it made me was very, very shy.

398
00:19:35,549 --> 00:19:38,552
It made me super self-conscious.

399
00:19:40,012 --> 00:19:41,138
[indistinct chatter]

400
00:19:41,221 --> 00:19:43,557
[Pamela] When I got to that first
<i>Playboy </i>photo shoot,

401
00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,936
I just said, "Like, why am I
so freaking paralyzed by this shyness?"

402
00:19:48,020 --> 00:19:51,815
"I'm so sick of all this past
that's created this insecurity in me."

403
00:19:53,358 --> 00:19:56,028
It's like a prison.
I have to break out of it.

404
00:19:57,070 --> 00:20:01,825
From the first snap of the picture,
I felt I was throwing myself off a bridge

405
00:20:01,909 --> 00:20:03,994
and falling in the... Just like snap!

406
00:20:07,497 --> 00:20:11,793
That was the first time
I felt like I'd broken free of something.

407
00:20:14,087 --> 00:20:15,088
<i>"Photo shoot."</i>

408
00:20:15,714 --> 00:20:17,132
<i>"Shy at first,</i>

409
00:20:17,216 --> 00:20:20,510
<i>by end of the week, you had to stop me
from running out the door naked."</i>

410
00:20:20,594 --> 00:20:22,179
[camera shutter clicking]

411
00:20:22,262 --> 00:20:24,848
[Pamela] <i>"To the side.
Am I doing this right?"</i>

412
00:20:26,308 --> 00:20:30,229
<i>"I could kind of see myself
from the camera's perspective in my head."</i>

413
00:20:30,312 --> 00:20:32,231
<i>"Once I got it, I had a blast."</i>

414
00:20:32,314 --> 00:20:33,398
[screaming playfully]

415
00:20:34,358 --> 00:20:35,878
[Pamela] I just remember at some point

416
00:20:35,943 --> 00:20:39,154
when I was in the fountain splashing
around and there's a little bit of nudity.

417
00:20:39,238 --> 00:20:40,558
And I could feel, like, the silk,

418
00:20:40,614 --> 00:20:42,800
I'd pull it across my skin,
then I would get goosebumps.

419
00:20:42,824 --> 00:20:46,745
And I was like...
Like, that's where a wild woman was born.

420
00:20:50,916 --> 00:20:55,045
And I felt like it was
kind of like a gateway to another world.

421
00:20:57,339 --> 00:20:59,841
Now I was gonna take
the power of my own sexuality,

422
00:20:59,925 --> 00:21:02,886
and take my power back,
and I did it I think in a really big way.

423
00:21:02,970 --> 00:21:04,972
[upbeat music playing]

424
00:21:07,140 --> 00:21:10,435
[Pamela] <i>"I jumped all over the place,
rolled around,</i>

425
00:21:10,519 --> 00:21:12,437
<i>put my fingers in my mouth,</i>

426
00:21:12,521 --> 00:21:14,481
<i>and then my hair became my prop."</i>

427
00:21:15,232 --> 00:21:18,026
<i>"After all,
eventually that was my only wardrobe."</i>

428
00:21:18,694 --> 00:21:19,694
<i>"And shoes."</i>

429
00:21:20,279 --> 00:21:22,823
<i>"If I kept my shoes on,
I didn't feel naked."</i>

430
00:21:24,116 --> 00:21:27,703
And then it clicked to me and I realized,
"Oh, this is something I can do."

431
00:21:27,786 --> 00:21:29,663
I felt like this is something
that I'm good at.

432
00:21:29,746 --> 00:21:32,624
Not that I'm good at good-looking,
but I'm good at it.

433
00:21:34,209 --> 00:21:38,088
This whole <i>Playboy </i>centerfold, gatefold
is like playing a character for me.

434
00:21:38,171 --> 00:21:39,840
And I've had a lot of fun doing it.

435
00:21:40,841 --> 00:21:43,921
Playing a character. What would you do
if you were a person in that situation?

436
00:21:43,969 --> 00:21:46,638
But you are that person
in that situation. [laughing]

437
00:21:48,682 --> 00:21:51,018
I had been in LA for a few weeks.

438
00:21:51,601 --> 00:21:54,521
And I thought,
"Okay, I did it. I did <i>Playboy</i>."

439
00:21:54,604 --> 00:21:55,647
"I'm going home."

440
00:21:56,398 --> 00:21:59,526
But the next day
Marilyn Grabowski took me for lunch.

441
00:21:59,609 --> 00:22:02,029
She said that Hefner really wanted me
to be a playmate.

442
00:22:02,112 --> 00:22:03,112
I was like...

443
00:22:03,905 --> 00:22:06,616
Like, I just couldn't...
It was so much to absorb.

444
00:22:06,700 --> 00:22:08,700
And she just said,
"I think you should stay in LA."

445
00:22:08,744 --> 00:22:10,078
"I think you have a career here."

446
00:22:10,162 --> 00:22:11,371
Would I consider it?

447
00:22:12,873 --> 00:22:15,208
And I called my mom, she said, "Do it."

448
00:22:15,792 --> 00:22:17,377
I told her to live her life.

449
00:22:17,461 --> 00:22:19,254
[chuckling] Be free.

450
00:22:19,838 --> 00:22:23,550
I didn't do <i>Playboy
'</i>cause no one ever asked me. [laughs]

451
00:22:24,843 --> 00:22:26,345
[music fades]

452
00:22:30,223 --> 00:22:33,769
[Pamela] <i>"Dear diary,
I'm way out in the boonies."</i>

453
00:22:33,852 --> 00:22:37,147
<i>"I have to take three connecting freeways
to get into Hollywood."</i>

454
00:22:37,647 --> 00:22:39,566
<i>"The price you pay for clean air."</i>

455
00:22:40,734 --> 00:22:42,402
<i>"I like driving here."</i>

456
00:22:42,486 --> 00:22:46,281
<i>"Everybody seems to know where
they're going and want to get there fast."</i>

457
00:22:46,365 --> 00:22:48,200
<i>"Even the grannies go 80."</i>

458
00:22:48,283 --> 00:22:49,618
<i>"That's miles per hour."</i>

459
00:22:49,701 --> 00:22:50,952
[nostalgic music playing]

460
00:22:51,036 --> 00:22:53,205
[Pamela] <i>"I got my new dog, Star, today."</i>

461
00:22:53,288 --> 00:22:54,998
<i>"He's going to be so loved."</i>

462
00:22:56,166 --> 00:22:59,628
I moved to a little apartment.
I had one plate, one fork, one spoon.

463
00:23:00,295 --> 00:23:01,630
No furniture, nothing.

464
00:23:02,255 --> 00:23:06,134
I just sat there and thought,
"Okay, well, this is it."

465
00:23:09,304 --> 00:23:11,723
<i>"There's really no way I should be here."</i>

466
00:23:11,807 --> 00:23:15,936
<i>"Coming from a very isolated small town,
an alcoholic father."</i>

467
00:23:16,728 --> 00:23:18,772
<i>"I lived in an imaginary world."</i>

468
00:23:19,606 --> 00:23:22,442
<i>"I certainly don't blame my parents
for my upbringing."</i>

469
00:23:23,110 --> 00:23:27,072
<i>"I'm grateful because I gained a lot
of good qualities along with the bad."</i>

470
00:23:27,572 --> 00:23:28,698
<i>"I'm a survivor."</i>

471
00:23:29,491 --> 00:23:31,201
<i>"XO, Pamela."</i>

472
00:23:32,661 --> 00:23:33,662
[music fades]

473
00:23:33,745 --> 00:23:35,747
[birds chirping]

474
00:23:37,290 --> 00:23:40,085
Well, it used to be...
Don't think we need more.

475
00:23:40,168 --> 00:23:42,568
[Pamela] No, these are nice, actually.
These are a nice size.

476
00:23:42,629 --> 00:23:43,463
[sizzling]

477
00:23:43,547 --> 00:23:45,340
These are not vegan, for sure.

478
00:23:46,133 --> 00:23:47,613
[Carol] Where's all your nice-fitting

479
00:23:48,468 --> 00:23:49,302
dresses?

480
00:23:49,386 --> 00:23:51,596
[Pamela] No one needs
to see my body anymore.

481
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,699
[Carol] You can see right through
that thing, I'll have you know.

482
00:23:53,723 --> 00:23:56,268
Well, a silhouette is much thinner
than the real thing. [laughs]

483
00:23:56,351 --> 00:23:58,645
[both laughing]

484
00:23:58,728 --> 00:24:01,898
[Pamela] My mom always talked about
beauty, hair, makeup, and all that stuff.

485
00:24:04,443 --> 00:24:07,320
And she taught me how to color my hair
from the drugstore.

486
00:24:09,239 --> 00:24:10,782
That's, like, two minutes.

487
00:24:10,866 --> 00:24:14,369
Everything in Ladysmith is
two minutes away, with traffic.

488
00:24:16,204 --> 00:24:17,497
Five dollars for a box.

489
00:24:17,581 --> 00:24:19,291
I do it for myself in 20 minutes.

490
00:24:19,791 --> 00:24:21,960
Scandinavian blond, here I come.

491
00:24:22,794 --> 00:24:25,005
Except for the blond hair,
the boobs, and plastic shoes,

492
00:24:25,088 --> 00:24:26,965
I am real underneath it all.

493
00:24:27,048 --> 00:24:31,136
I've never sat across
from an interview subject before and said,

494
00:24:31,219 --> 00:24:34,014
"May we talk briefly about your breasts?"

495
00:24:34,097 --> 00:24:34,931
[giggling]

496
00:24:35,015 --> 00:24:38,685
What are they? Who are they?
Those things I'm just tagging along with?

497
00:24:38,768 --> 00:24:41,980
I always said my boobs had a career
and I was just tagging along.

498
00:24:42,481 --> 00:24:44,357
You wanna see them? No, I'm kidding.

499
00:24:44,441 --> 00:24:45,567
[giggling, exclaiming]

500
00:24:45,650 --> 00:24:48,153
No, you don't wanna see them now.
They're in rough shape.

501
00:24:48,236 --> 00:24:49,863
Um... [chuckling]

502
00:24:49,946 --> 00:24:51,907
- Where'd I get my boobs done?
- [anchor] Yeah.

503
00:24:51,990 --> 00:24:54,784
Jesus, that's a personal question,
but I'll let you...

504
00:24:54,868 --> 00:24:56,369
Let's talk about this.

505
00:24:56,453 --> 00:24:59,164
I didn't know to lie
or withhold anything in interviews.

506
00:24:59,247 --> 00:25:02,292
So, when people would ask me
if I had surgery or anything like that,

507
00:25:02,375 --> 00:25:03,375
then I'd just answer.

508
00:25:03,418 --> 00:25:06,046
And so that just
kind of set the ball rolling.

509
00:25:06,129 --> 00:25:09,257
- You were not under-endowed, were you?
- [Pamela] No.

510
00:25:09,341 --> 00:25:11,801
I remember being in a gym
at Playboy... at the mansion

511
00:25:11,885 --> 00:25:15,430
and looking around at these women going,
"God, look at the bodies on these women."

512
00:25:15,514 --> 00:25:16,973
"I mean, this is just incredible."

513
00:25:17,057 --> 00:25:19,226
I remember
when I was with Kimberly Hefner,

514
00:25:19,309 --> 00:25:20,644
and she's married to Hefner.

515
00:25:20,727 --> 00:25:23,063
She said, "Well,
you know, they all had surgery."

516
00:25:23,146 --> 00:25:26,066
And I was like, "Really?
Where do I sign up?"

517
00:25:26,149 --> 00:25:27,149
[chuckling]

518
00:25:28,068 --> 00:25:29,694
[Pamela] So that was it.

519
00:25:30,570 --> 00:25:31,780
Choices in the moment.

520
00:25:31,863 --> 00:25:33,990
You know,
not a lot of thinking went into anything.

521
00:25:34,074 --> 00:25:36,243
I don't know why my boobs...
people were so interested,

522
00:25:36,326 --> 00:25:37,994
they weren't that newsworthy.

523
00:25:39,162 --> 00:25:40,830
But I was just pretty naive.

524
00:25:40,914 --> 00:25:44,709
And I think at the time,
it was pretty nervy to say the truth.

525
00:25:44,793 --> 00:25:46,586
When someone asked me, I said, "Yeah!"

526
00:25:46,670 --> 00:25:47,963
Have you ever had work done?

527
00:25:48,547 --> 00:25:50,549
Why, yes. These are implants, Larry.

528
00:25:50,632 --> 00:25:52,175
- Oh, they are?
- [chuckling]

529
00:25:52,259 --> 00:25:54,695
- [Larry] No... Are they or aren't they?
- Yes, they are. [laughs]

530
00:25:54,719 --> 00:25:57,430
It was disturbing
'cause it was, like, "Oh my God. Really?"

531
00:25:57,514 --> 00:25:59,432
"Is this what we're talking about again?"

532
00:25:59,516 --> 00:26:00,850
But you roll with it.

533
00:26:02,936 --> 00:26:03,770
Yeah.

534
00:26:03,853 --> 00:26:05,814
[Jay] Those are beautiful, uh, jewelry.

535
00:26:05,897 --> 00:26:07,232
- Thank you.
- [audience laughing]

536
00:26:07,315 --> 00:26:08,942
So much has been written...

537
00:26:09,025 --> 00:26:11,212
- She's looking at me...
- You got your hands out like this.

538
00:26:11,236 --> 00:26:13,756
- "So much has been written."
- [Matt] I didn't mean to do that.

539
00:26:13,822 --> 00:26:15,740
[Jay] Who would you wanna be, and why?

540
00:26:15,824 --> 00:26:16,992
I could be you.

541
00:26:17,075 --> 00:26:19,011
Why would you wanna be me?
I'm curious as to why...

542
00:26:19,035 --> 00:26:21,329
So I could torture you.
Ask you about your implants.

543
00:26:21,413 --> 00:26:22,497
Yeah, that'd work.

544
00:26:22,581 --> 00:26:24,958
[audience laughing, cheering]

545
00:26:25,041 --> 00:26:25,875
[music fades]

546
00:26:25,959 --> 00:26:27,794
I don't see how it's so interesting.

547
00:26:29,462 --> 00:26:33,133
I think it's kind of inappropriate
to ask women those kind of questions.

548
00:26:33,216 --> 00:26:36,511
There has to be some line
that people don't cross.

549
00:26:36,595 --> 00:26:38,346
[pensive music playing]

550
00:26:38,430 --> 00:26:42,142
I always hoped something would come along
where I would do something

551
00:26:42,225 --> 00:26:45,061
which would be more interesting to people.

552
00:26:45,145 --> 00:26:46,896
You know, than my body.

553
00:26:48,064 --> 00:26:51,443
I moved here when I started working
for <i>Playboy, </i>so everybody that I've met

554
00:26:51,526 --> 00:26:54,321
has been because
I started working for <i>Playboy.</i>

555
00:26:54,404 --> 00:26:57,365
So who knows?
Maybe one day I could be an actress.

556
00:26:58,617 --> 00:27:00,952
<i>"May 21st, 1991."</i>

557
00:27:01,745 --> 00:27:04,497
<i>"I'm making a plan of action
for my career now."</i>

558
00:27:04,581 --> 00:27:06,249
<i>"I think I stood back too long."</i>

559
00:27:07,751 --> 00:27:09,294
<i>"This is my time to shine,</i>

560
00:27:09,377 --> 00:27:12,589
<i>not as a sex symbol, but as an actress."</i>

561
00:27:13,632 --> 00:27:15,735
<i>Playboy </i>was kind of like my agent
almost at that time.

562
00:27:15,759 --> 00:27:18,595
Like, people were calling <i>Playboy</i>
to ask me to do things.

563
00:27:18,678 --> 00:27:19,763
And they called and said,

564
00:27:19,846 --> 00:27:22,098
"Would you come
for an audition for <i>Baywatch</i>?"

565
00:27:23,391 --> 00:27:25,310
It was about the California dream.

566
00:27:25,393 --> 00:27:26,936
[upbeat rock music playing]

567
00:27:29,606 --> 00:27:32,692
[David] I've been proud
to be the star of a show called <i>Baywatch</i>,

568
00:27:32,776 --> 00:27:36,655
a weekly series about the brave men
and women called lifeguards.

569
00:27:37,989 --> 00:27:41,534
[Pamela] They always tried to get me
to come and audition in Marina del Rey,

570
00:27:41,618 --> 00:27:44,162
which sounded very exotic
and far away. [chuckling]

571
00:27:44,245 --> 00:27:47,791
I was like, "That sounds really far,
I can't go." I just ignored it.

572
00:27:48,291 --> 00:27:53,171
Susie and I knew this was the girl.
And she canceled on us 11 times, okay?

573
00:27:53,254 --> 00:27:55,507
By the eleventh...
And we kept going into these auditions

574
00:27:55,590 --> 00:27:58,259
with these guys saying,
"Guys, there's a girl you gotta see."

575
00:27:58,343 --> 00:28:01,638
They said, "Are you Pamela Anderson?
Like, one famous never for showing up?"

576
00:28:02,138 --> 00:28:03,139
And I said, "Yes."

577
00:28:03,223 --> 00:28:05,809
And she just had so much energy

578
00:28:05,892 --> 00:28:07,644
and so much, uh, personality.

579
00:28:07,727 --> 00:28:08,727
She was the one.

580
00:28:09,187 --> 00:28:11,189
[rock music playing]

581
00:28:12,315 --> 00:28:14,693
[Pamela] So that's how CJ was born.

582
00:28:15,819 --> 00:28:17,570
[man] And action!

583
00:28:17,654 --> 00:28:19,823
[Pamela] <i>Baywatch </i>was my first,
kind of, acting job.

584
00:28:19,906 --> 00:28:22,593
I wouldn't say it was any good.
I still didn't know what I was doing.

585
00:28:22,617 --> 00:28:23,910
[both exclaiming]

586
00:28:23,993 --> 00:28:25,286
Oh my God, Mitch, I'm sorry.

587
00:28:25,370 --> 00:28:27,706
I was just so surprised
to see you standing there.

588
00:28:27,789 --> 00:28:29,541
Not as surprised as I was.

589
00:28:30,250 --> 00:28:31,418
How are you, CJ?

590
00:28:32,419 --> 00:28:33,628
How's Larry?

591
00:28:33,712 --> 00:28:35,898
Mention that name again,
you're going back in the river.

592
00:28:35,922 --> 00:28:39,509
The notes of the director would say
was like, "Pretend it's real. Action!"

593
00:28:39,592 --> 00:28:40,927
[Mitch groaning]

594
00:28:41,010 --> 00:28:42,010
Hold on!

595
00:28:44,389 --> 00:28:47,016
Or if something wasn't working,
they'd say, "More seagulls!"

596
00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:50,228
The cracker-whacker would get out there
and he had crackers in a little sling

597
00:28:50,311 --> 00:28:52,897
and he would be slingshotting,
like, crackers in the air.

598
00:28:52,981 --> 00:28:55,650
[man] Scare the birds, please!
Scare those birds!

599
00:28:56,317 --> 00:28:58,997
[Pamela] We were having a ball.
We couldn't believe we were working.

600
00:28:59,070 --> 00:29:01,406
We were on the beach every day,
getting paid for this.

601
00:29:04,492 --> 00:29:07,912
We didn't realize on the show
that it was becoming very, very popular.

602
00:29:08,705 --> 00:29:10,081
When it comes to viewers,

603
00:29:10,165 --> 00:29:12,751
there's one show
that's in a class all by itself.

604
00:29:13,334 --> 00:29:16,379
It's the most popular television show
in the entire world.

605
00:29:16,463 --> 00:29:18,631
[Spanish dub playing]

606
00:29:18,715 --> 00:29:21,259
[Pamela] It was one of the first
American shows shown in China.

607
00:29:21,342 --> 00:29:24,012
[Katie] <i>Baywatch </i>is being dubbed
in Mandarin,

608
00:29:24,095 --> 00:29:26,014
not that it really needs much translation.

609
00:29:26,097 --> 00:29:27,097
[panting]

610
00:29:27,140 --> 00:29:29,660
[Pamela] You could watch that show
with the sound off, actually.

611
00:29:29,684 --> 00:29:32,687
[chuckling]
It wasn't really about the storylines.

612
00:29:38,943 --> 00:29:43,823
[anchor] And when it came to eye candy,
no one was sweeter than Pamela Anderson.

613
00:29:44,491 --> 00:29:47,285
[man] She turned slow-motion running
into an art form.

614
00:29:47,368 --> 00:29:51,080
The slow-motion run is
really hard to... learn. [laughs]

615
00:29:52,415 --> 00:29:54,292
[man 2] Her magnetism just radiated.

616
00:29:54,375 --> 00:29:57,670
And we realized we had something
in Pamela that was different.

617
00:29:58,713 --> 00:30:00,256
[crowd shouting]

618
00:30:00,340 --> 00:30:01,340
[man] Pamela!

619
00:30:01,841 --> 00:30:05,595
[Pamela] Going to Europe
to promote <i>Baywatch </i>was crazy.

620
00:30:05,678 --> 00:30:08,681
People were falling over backwards
and falling down escalators.

621
00:30:08,765 --> 00:30:11,226
I remember looking behind us going,
"Well, who's here?"

622
00:30:11,309 --> 00:30:14,646
[in French] I saw her!
She's more beautiful than on TV!

623
00:30:14,729 --> 00:30:17,398
[Conan] My first guest became
an international superstar

624
00:30:17,482 --> 00:30:18,942
from her role on <i>Baywatch</i>.

625
00:30:19,025 --> 00:30:20,944
Please welcome Pamela Anderson.

626
00:30:21,027 --> 00:30:21,903
[audience cheering]

627
00:30:21,986 --> 00:30:23,655
Please welcome Pamela Anderson.

628
00:30:23,738 --> 00:30:24,823
Pamela Anderson.

629
00:30:24,906 --> 00:30:27,283
[anchor] One of the most well-known stars
in the world.

630
00:30:27,367 --> 00:30:29,494
[anchor 2]
The very lovely Pamela Anderson.

631
00:30:29,994 --> 00:30:31,371
[crowd cheering]

632
00:30:31,454 --> 00:30:34,833
[Pamela] <i>"Hi, Mom. It was nice
to finally talk to you this morning."</i>

633
00:30:36,042 --> 00:30:38,670
<i>"I hope this year's a great one
for everyone in our family."</i>

634
00:30:39,796 --> 00:30:42,131
<i>"Maybe soon, I can buy you guys a house."</i>

635
00:30:42,215 --> 00:30:43,925
<i>"That is my dream."</i>

636
00:30:44,801 --> 00:30:47,762
<i>"I'm going to work very hard
to help that happen."</i>

637
00:30:47,846 --> 00:30:49,848
[gentle music playing]

638
00:30:50,723 --> 00:30:52,725
[boat motor revving]

639
00:30:56,104 --> 00:30:56,938
Whoo!

640
00:30:57,021 --> 00:30:58,189
[giggling]

641
00:30:58,898 --> 00:30:59,898
Faster, baby!

642
00:31:04,779 --> 00:31:08,408
I've always had this property
and I abandoned it for, like, 25 years.

643
00:31:08,491 --> 00:31:10,326
So it was really rotten and decayed.

644
00:31:10,410 --> 00:31:13,621
But I knew I'd have to come home
when my parents were older

645
00:31:13,705 --> 00:31:14,873
to look after them.

646
00:31:15,456 --> 00:31:18,209
And then COVID hit
and I said, "Okay, I'm staying."

647
00:31:19,711 --> 00:31:22,773
And then, of course, I got a little bored
and thought, "I need to build this."

648
00:31:22,797 --> 00:31:24,997
So the contractors came
and I was like, "Oh, he's cute."

649
00:31:25,049 --> 00:31:26,049
[chuckles]

650
00:31:26,843 --> 00:31:27,927
Darn it.

651
00:31:28,553 --> 00:31:30,013
Then I got married Christmas Eve.

652
00:31:30,847 --> 00:31:33,266
But he's a good Canadian guy. Normal.

653
00:31:34,309 --> 00:31:36,811
I just felt like,
maybe I need to try that.

654
00:31:38,563 --> 00:31:39,563
Yeah.

655
00:31:40,607 --> 00:31:41,607
Don't know.

656
00:31:41,649 --> 00:31:44,777
Again, sometimes I don't know
if I'm alive or dead.

657
00:31:45,361 --> 00:31:46,279
[Pamela chuckling]

658
00:31:46,362 --> 00:31:48,072
[ducks quacking]

659
00:31:48,156 --> 00:31:52,076
[Pamela] But maybe this is just the time
I was supposed to be home, I guess.

660
00:31:54,162 --> 00:31:56,497
I'm like a spawning salmon,
just coming home to die.

661
00:31:56,581 --> 00:31:57,581
No, I'm kidding!

662
00:31:57,624 --> 00:31:59,459
[laughing]

663
00:31:59,542 --> 00:32:00,585
[Pamela] Terrible.

664
00:32:00,668 --> 00:32:02,211
[birds chirping]

665
00:32:05,423 --> 00:32:07,216
[Pamela] Nineteen-ninety.

666
00:32:07,300 --> 00:32:08,300
What?

667
00:32:09,719 --> 00:32:11,387
Oh my God, this is fun to read.

668
00:32:11,471 --> 00:32:14,390
I was, like, making a cake
for Mario's 33rd birthday.

669
00:32:14,474 --> 00:32:16,017
That's a long time ago.

670
00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:17,769
<i>"January 8th, 1990."</i>

671
00:32:19,020 --> 00:32:20,605
<i>"I miss Mario Van P."</i>

672
00:32:21,147 --> 00:32:23,608
<i>"I just want to be loved by one person,</i>

673
00:32:23,691 --> 00:32:26,027
<i>and I want to spoil that person rotten."</i>

674
00:32:27,153 --> 00:32:28,988
<i>"I think I want that person to be Mario."</i>

675
00:32:29,072 --> 00:32:32,492
"I woke up at Mario's,
and went home to change, went to Scott's..."

676
00:32:32,575 --> 00:32:34,452
I'm sorry, that's weird.

677
00:32:34,535 --> 00:32:35,828
[director laughs]

678
00:32:35,912 --> 00:32:37,580
[Pamela laughing]

679
00:32:38,331 --> 00:32:39,999
Why would I even write that down?

680
00:32:40,083 --> 00:32:42,710
'Cause God forbid
you do a documentary one day in your life

681
00:32:42,794 --> 00:32:44,921
and find out what kind of a whore you are.

682
00:32:45,004 --> 00:32:46,589
[Pamela laughing]

683
00:32:46,673 --> 00:32:49,801
[Pamela] I dated a few other actors,
but only for short periods of time.

684
00:32:49,884 --> 00:32:53,096
Who else was I dating when I got there?
There was quite a few men around.

685
00:32:53,179 --> 00:32:55,014
Well, just... Well, Scott Baio.

686
00:32:56,057 --> 00:32:57,809
Oh, I might buy a Hyundai.

687
00:32:57,892 --> 00:33:00,603
Oh, off Scott's dad, for $5,000.

688
00:33:00,687 --> 00:33:03,022
He was really mad
because I would drive Scott's Mercedes

689
00:33:03,106 --> 00:33:04,786
and he said I wasn't worth a Mercedes yet.

690
00:33:04,816 --> 00:33:07,068
That I had to drive something
like a Hyundai.

691
00:33:07,652 --> 00:33:09,404
He was... He was not very nice to me.

692
00:33:09,904 --> 00:33:11,632
- [director] Dean Cain, did you date?
- Oh God.

693
00:33:11,656 --> 00:33:12,782
[upbeat music playing]

694
00:33:12,865 --> 00:33:13,866
[Pamela sighing]

695
00:33:14,367 --> 00:33:16,744
Yes, but I don't think
we need to go through all those.

696
00:33:16,828 --> 00:33:18,079
[director chuckling]

697
00:33:18,162 --> 00:33:19,080
[director] Eric Nies?

698
00:33:19,163 --> 00:33:21,874
[Pamela] Oh God.
Yes, I was dating Eric Nies.

699
00:33:21,958 --> 00:33:23,543
I don't even know why it ended.

700
00:33:24,127 --> 00:33:27,839
But you're very much in love now
with a Frenchman. <i>Mon dieu!</i>

701
00:33:27,922 --> 00:33:30,526
- [Regis] What's the Frenchman's name?
- [Pamela] Um, David Charvet.

702
00:33:30,550 --> 00:33:32,861
- [Regis] Charvet?
- [Kathy in French accent] David Charvet.

703
00:33:32,885 --> 00:33:34,095
This is it for you, you think.

704
00:33:34,178 --> 00:33:36,778
- This is the love of your life.
- Definitely the love of my life.

705
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,809
<i>"December 18th, 1992."</i>

706
00:33:40,309 --> 00:33:43,771
<i>"David isn't sleeping
in the same room with me anymore."</i>

707
00:33:43,855 --> 00:33:45,815
<i>"I know this is the end of us."</i>

708
00:33:46,774 --> 00:33:49,610
<i>"I'll never get married. I know that now."</i>

709
00:33:49,694 --> 00:33:52,864
<i>"Maybe I'll live with my parents
when I'm old and we'll all die together."</i>

710
00:33:53,865 --> 00:33:55,908
<i>"Well, Star is with me at least."</i>

711
00:33:57,076 --> 00:33:59,662
<i>"We are finally off </i>Baywatch<i> until May."</i>

712
00:34:00,663 --> 00:34:03,791
<i>"This hiatus from the show
has been quite an adventure,</i>

713
00:34:03,875 --> 00:34:06,586
<i>but I love shooting
on the beach and in the ocean."</i>

714
00:34:07,086 --> 00:34:08,212
<i>"It's me."</i>

715
00:34:08,296 --> 00:34:09,672
<i>"Totally Pamela."</i>

716
00:34:10,590 --> 00:34:12,550
CJ Parker was based on me.

717
00:34:12,633 --> 00:34:14,761
She was kind of like
this hippie little romantic.

718
00:34:14,844 --> 00:34:16,220
Mitch, I think I'm in love.

719
00:34:16,888 --> 00:34:19,015
Oh no, CJ. Come on, not again.

720
00:34:19,098 --> 00:34:20,266
You just met the guy.

721
00:34:20,349 --> 00:34:21,350
[sighing] I don't know.

722
00:34:21,434 --> 00:34:24,020
He just... he brings out
feelings in me I never knew I had.

723
00:34:24,103 --> 00:34:25,605
You say that every time.

724
00:34:25,688 --> 00:34:26,898
No, this time's different.

725
00:34:29,734 --> 00:34:31,652
I met Kelly Slater on the set of <i>Baywatch</i>.

726
00:34:32,445 --> 00:34:34,530
He was my big love, actually.

727
00:34:37,158 --> 00:34:39,660
He was such a sweetheart to me,
and so good to me.

728
00:34:41,913 --> 00:34:43,122
Oh, there's Kelly.

729
00:34:43,206 --> 00:34:45,083
When he had hair. [chuckling]

730
00:34:45,166 --> 00:34:46,250
So handsome.

731
00:34:46,334 --> 00:34:47,877
Uh, he's definitely handsome.

732
00:34:51,005 --> 00:34:52,085
I dated Kelly all the time.

733
00:34:52,131 --> 00:34:54,759
I mean, Kelly and I were together
between lots of boyfriends

734
00:34:54,842 --> 00:34:57,595
and lots of girlfriends for him too,
but it wasn't just me.

735
00:34:57,678 --> 00:35:00,723
Uh, I'd like to say thanks
to, uh, my girlfriends and my...

736
00:35:00,807 --> 00:35:02,350
my girlfriend and my friends.

737
00:35:02,433 --> 00:35:03,309
[crowd laughing]

738
00:35:03,392 --> 00:35:05,561
[Pamela] He definitely was a heartbreaker.

739
00:35:06,270 --> 00:35:09,166
I mean, he just was a free spirit.
You couldn't get your hands around him.

740
00:35:09,190 --> 00:35:11,067
But you don't own anybody.

741
00:35:11,150 --> 00:35:14,529
Nobody owns anybody and you just,
uh, let them be who they are.

742
00:35:14,612 --> 00:35:18,282
Sometimes it's better... not with you.

743
00:35:18,366 --> 00:35:20,368
[upbeat music playing]

744
00:35:22,745 --> 00:35:26,207
[Pamela] <i>"I'd rather have loved
for an instant than a miserable life."</i>

745
00:35:26,707 --> 00:35:30,378
<i>"I love being in love
and being vulnerable and being giving."</i>

746
00:35:30,878 --> 00:35:32,964
<i>"It's the only way to live life."</i>

747
00:35:33,047 --> 00:35:34,047
<i>"Vulnerable."</i>

748
00:35:35,383 --> 00:35:37,593
I love to live a romantic life every day.

749
00:35:38,761 --> 00:35:40,888
I remember talking
to Sylvester Stallone one time.

750
00:35:40,972 --> 00:35:43,492
And he offered me a condo and Porsche
to be his number-one girl.

751
00:35:43,516 --> 00:35:46,185
And I was like, "Does that mean
there's number two? Uh-uh."

752
00:35:46,269 --> 00:35:48,563
He goes, "That's the best offer
you're gonna get, honey."

753
00:35:48,646 --> 00:35:49,730
"You're in Hollywood now."

754
00:35:51,190 --> 00:35:52,733
I wanted to really be in love.

755
00:35:52,817 --> 00:35:54,944
And I didn't want anything less than that.

756
00:35:55,862 --> 00:35:56,988
[music fades]

757
00:35:57,071 --> 00:35:59,824
[record scratching]

758
00:35:59,907 --> 00:36:01,617
[indistinct chatter]

759
00:36:01,701 --> 00:36:03,035
[man] Say hi!

760
00:36:03,536 --> 00:36:05,830
[Pamela] I was part owner
of this club called Sanctuary.

761
00:36:07,248 --> 00:36:10,501
It was New Year's night,
and I was with my best friend, Melanie.

762
00:36:10,585 --> 00:36:12,128
- [Pamela] Melanie!
- Hi!

763
00:36:12,211 --> 00:36:13,296
[Pamela] Tommy was there.

764
00:36:14,213 --> 00:36:15,882
[anchor] Mötley Crüe drummer Tommy Lee.

765
00:36:15,965 --> 00:36:16,883
[anchor 2] Rocker Tommy Lee.

766
00:36:16,966 --> 00:36:19,552
[anchor 3] The Mötley Crüe drummer
with the bad-boy image.

767
00:36:19,635 --> 00:36:20,845
[Tommy laughing]

768
00:36:20,928 --> 00:36:23,598
[rock music playing]

769
00:36:25,516 --> 00:36:27,810
[Pamela] I gave everyone
a Goldschläger shot to celebrate,

770
00:36:27,894 --> 00:36:31,063
but Tommy thought it was only for him,
so he came bounding over everybody

771
00:36:31,147 --> 00:36:33,357
and sat next to me
and licked the side of my face.

772
00:36:33,441 --> 00:36:35,801
And I licked Melanie's face,
and it went all the way around.

773
00:36:37,570 --> 00:36:40,031
After that night,
the phone wouldn't stop ringing.

774
00:36:40,740 --> 00:36:42,325
And he was leaving messages saying,

775
00:36:42,408 --> 00:36:45,077
"My Bologna has a first name,
it's L-A-R-G-E."

776
00:36:45,161 --> 00:36:46,161
[laughing]

777
00:36:46,204 --> 00:36:47,413
[inaudible]

778
00:36:47,496 --> 00:36:49,207
[Pamela] I didn't answer him back.

779
00:36:49,916 --> 00:36:53,211
I was so busy at that time,
and I just was shooting every day.

780
00:36:53,294 --> 00:36:56,130
I was shooting <i>Baywatch</i>
and shooting for <i>Playboy.</i>

781
00:36:56,214 --> 00:36:58,341
But I was out the door one day
when the phone rang,

782
00:36:58,424 --> 00:37:01,135
and it rang again, I was like,
"Oh, shoot. Maybe it's my agent."

783
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,804
He goes, "Hello?" I was like, "Tommy?"

784
00:37:03,888 --> 00:37:06,390
And he sounded really sad, he goes, "Hi."

785
00:37:06,891 --> 00:37:09,185
I said, "Hi. I'm so sorry.
I kind of ditched you before."

786
00:37:09,268 --> 00:37:11,788
"But I just, you know, I'm busy right now.
I'm going to Cancun."

787
00:37:11,854 --> 00:37:13,022
He goes, "Without me?"

788
00:37:13,105 --> 00:37:15,066
And I said,
"No, you're not coming to Mexico."

789
00:37:15,149 --> 00:37:18,253
I go, "I'm going, I've got a photoshoot."
And he goes, "Oh. I'll see you there."

790
00:37:18,277 --> 00:37:19,987
I was like, "No, you can't come there."

791
00:37:20,071 --> 00:37:21,951
He goes,
"No, no, I'll be there. I'll find you."

792
00:37:21,989 --> 00:37:23,241
And I was like, "Shit!"

793
00:37:24,992 --> 00:37:26,702
And when I got there, I told everybody,

794
00:37:26,786 --> 00:37:29,956
"If anyone with tattoos
comes near the hotel, don't let him in."

795
00:37:30,039 --> 00:37:31,666
Well, we're in Cancun.

796
00:37:32,291 --> 00:37:34,043
Un-freaking-real.

797
00:37:36,671 --> 00:37:40,341
That is where we're going tonight,
La Boom.

798
00:37:41,133 --> 00:37:42,301
It's somewhere over there.

799
00:37:42,843 --> 00:37:44,804
And then Tommy was leaving messages.

800
00:37:44,887 --> 00:37:47,447
"I'm in Cancun now, this is my hotel.
This is where I'm staying."

801
00:37:47,473 --> 00:37:50,893
"I'm here with some buddies.
I'm going hotel by hotel to find you."

802
00:37:51,394 --> 00:37:53,521
And so I was nervous
and then finally I went,

803
00:37:53,604 --> 00:37:54,855
"What could possibly go wrong?"

804
00:37:54,939 --> 00:37:56,524
I said, "We leave tomorrow."

805
00:37:56,607 --> 00:37:58,985
"Let's call him
and let's have one night with these guys."

806
00:38:00,569 --> 00:38:02,609
Famous last words.
"What could go wrong?" [laughing]

807
00:38:02,655 --> 00:38:04,407
[techno music playing]

808
00:38:04,490 --> 00:38:06,534
[Pamela] So then we went to La Boom.

809
00:38:06,617 --> 00:38:07,952
So it's, like, super techno.

810
00:38:08,452 --> 00:38:10,372
They were walking in,
I was walking towards them.

811
00:38:10,413 --> 00:38:12,253
I looked at my girlfriend,
"Which one's Tommy?"

812
00:38:12,290 --> 00:38:15,876
They were all dressed
in those white wifebeaters, chains, jeans.

813
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,086
They all looked the same.

814
00:38:17,169 --> 00:38:19,588
And my girlfriend,
Alexis, she said, "That one."

815
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,511
We had champagne
and we put ecstasy in my champagne,

816
00:38:25,594 --> 00:38:26,887
which I'd never tried before.

817
00:38:26,971 --> 00:38:29,598
[techno music playing]

818
00:38:30,516 --> 00:38:32,476
The pupils of my eyes were this big.

819
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,354
You know, I have light eyes.
And I thought it looked so cool.

820
00:38:35,438 --> 00:38:37,440
[nostalgic music playing]

821
00:38:40,776 --> 00:38:42,486
The rest is all a big blur.

822
00:38:43,321 --> 00:38:44,572
All a big happy blur.

823
00:38:45,156 --> 00:38:46,156
[laughing]

824
00:38:50,286 --> 00:38:52,038
We felt pretty invincible.

825
00:38:55,458 --> 00:38:58,210
Later on that night,
he just looked at me and he goes,

826
00:38:58,878 --> 00:39:01,839
"You wanna get married?"
And I was like, "Yeah, I do."

827
00:39:01,922 --> 00:39:03,882
And he goes,
"Have you ever felt this way before?"

828
00:39:03,924 --> 00:39:05,764
I go, "Never.
I've never felt this way before."

829
00:39:05,843 --> 00:39:06,719
And he goes, "Okay."

830
00:39:06,802 --> 00:39:11,140
And he took his friend's skull ring off,
put it on my finger, and that was it.

831
00:39:12,767 --> 00:39:16,562
We were just hours in the booth talking,
planning our wedding. [laughs]

832
00:39:18,814 --> 00:39:21,692
[Pamela] <i>"Tommy and I couldn't stay away
from each other."</i>

833
00:39:21,776 --> 00:39:24,862
<i>"I thought. Why not? Clean slate?"</i>

834
00:39:24,945 --> 00:39:26,364
<i>"It will be an adventure."</i>

835
00:39:27,406 --> 00:39:31,535
<i>"And from then on,
it was a fantasy, my fantasy."</i>

836
00:39:32,328 --> 00:39:34,288
- [Tommy] Hey, lover.
- [Pamela] Hi, baby.

837
00:39:34,372 --> 00:39:35,706
[elevator bell dinging]

838
00:39:35,790 --> 00:39:38,310
[Pamela] People marry after knowing
each other two years and go,

839
00:39:38,334 --> 00:39:40,461
"Now I finally like you enough
to get married."

840
00:39:40,961 --> 00:39:42,338
Everyone changes every day.

841
00:39:43,089 --> 00:39:45,049
So I think you have to be pretty brave.

842
00:39:45,132 --> 00:39:47,468
[Tommy] Whoo! We're getting married today.

843
00:39:47,551 --> 00:39:49,887
- I know.
- [Tommy] What do you think about that?

844
00:39:50,388 --> 00:39:51,305
Awesome!

845
00:39:51,389 --> 00:39:52,389
[Tommy] Yup.

846
00:39:52,932 --> 00:39:56,811
[Pamela] And so, after a few days together
in Cancun, we got married.

847
00:39:56,894 --> 00:39:58,270
[Tommy] Hey, lovely girl.

848
00:39:59,939 --> 00:40:02,619
[Pamela] Some of the people
that were hanging out with us at La Boom

849
00:40:02,650 --> 00:40:03,943
were our wedding party.

850
00:40:04,485 --> 00:40:08,072
My maid of honor was somebody
that we met in the club that night.

851
00:40:09,156 --> 00:40:11,951
We were lying in lawn chairs,
sipping Chi Chis.

852
00:40:12,910 --> 00:40:15,830
And I got married in a bikini,
and Tommy was in board shorts.

853
00:40:17,456 --> 00:40:19,792
I'm the luckiest girl on the planet.

854
00:40:22,169 --> 00:40:23,879
My beautiful husband.

855
00:40:23,963 --> 00:40:25,756
Yum, yum, yum.

856
00:40:27,967 --> 00:40:29,176
What's your problem?

857
00:40:29,677 --> 00:40:32,531
I don't wanna be cheap or anything,
but we should go get a bottle of vodka

858
00:40:32,555 --> 00:40:34,598
because it's, like, eight bucks
for one of these.

859
00:40:34,682 --> 00:40:38,144
[Pamela] Well, what time is it?
It's, like, quarter after three.

860
00:40:38,227 --> 00:40:40,396
We've had two bottles of champagne.

861
00:40:40,980 --> 00:40:42,140
- So we're out of vodka?
- Ah!

862
00:40:42,189 --> 00:40:44,358
[in Spanish accent] Little baby Coronitas.

863
00:40:44,442 --> 00:40:47,611
- [Pamela] Coronitas.
- Coronitas!

864
00:40:47,695 --> 00:40:49,613
And I remember asking,
"What's our last name?"

865
00:40:49,697 --> 00:40:53,284
He goes, "Lee." I go, "I thought it was
Tommy Lee Jones or something."

866
00:40:53,367 --> 00:40:55,536
He goes, "No! That's somebody else."

867
00:40:57,204 --> 00:40:58,247
Baby doll.

868
00:40:59,373 --> 00:41:00,666
I got your booty.

869
00:41:01,333 --> 00:41:02,460
[Tommy] Hey, gorgeous.

870
00:41:03,210 --> 00:41:04,253
[Tommy blowing kiss]

871
00:41:08,883 --> 00:41:12,386
[Pamela] What was different about Tommy
is there was no secrets, no deception,

872
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:14,138
there was no game playing.

873
00:41:14,221 --> 00:41:19,101
It was really just full-on
heart-to-heart, explosive kind of love.

874
00:41:20,561 --> 00:41:23,397
[Tommy] Yum, yum, yum.

875
00:41:25,024 --> 00:41:26,192
That's my baby.

876
00:41:27,943 --> 00:41:29,153
Look at those toes.

877
00:41:30,279 --> 00:41:31,363
[Pamela] All sandies.

878
00:41:31,447 --> 00:41:33,199
[Tommy] No, no, no. I like it.

879
00:41:33,282 --> 00:41:34,325
No, leave it.

880
00:41:34,408 --> 00:41:36,410
[children playing]

881
00:41:37,745 --> 00:41:38,745
[Pamela] Kiss me.

882
00:41:41,707 --> 00:41:42,750
Bye, Cancun.

883
00:41:43,626 --> 00:41:45,836
But I was dating Kelly Slater at the time,

884
00:41:46,670 --> 00:41:50,382
and I was supposed to go see him
in Florida and meet his family.

885
00:41:50,883 --> 00:41:53,403
My first phone call I told him
I was married. He's like, "What?"

886
00:41:54,136 --> 00:41:55,136
That was horrible.

887
00:41:56,096 --> 00:42:00,643
And then from the plane back to LA,
I remember going to Tommy,

888
00:42:00,726 --> 00:42:01,852
"Do you eat eggs?"

889
00:42:01,936 --> 00:42:03,187
[Pamela chuckling]

890
00:42:03,270 --> 00:42:04,647
[inaudible]

891
00:42:04,730 --> 00:42:06,732
[Pamela] We didn't know anything
about each other.

892
00:42:07,233 --> 00:42:11,028
And it ended up being one of the wildest,
most beautiful love affairs ever.

893
00:42:14,281 --> 00:42:15,282
[crowd clamoring]

894
00:42:15,366 --> 00:42:17,993
[Pamela] We landed to so much paparazzi.

895
00:42:18,077 --> 00:42:19,411
[camera shutters clicking]

896
00:42:19,495 --> 00:42:20,621
[Pamela] It was crazy.

897
00:42:21,997 --> 00:42:23,749
Everyone was in shock. [chuckling]

898
00:42:24,500 --> 00:42:28,128
[anchor] <i>Pamela and Tommy marry
after spending only four days together.</i>

899
00:42:28,212 --> 00:42:30,881
<i>[anchor 2] A four-day courtship
on the beaches of Cancun.</i>

900
00:42:30,965 --> 00:42:33,801
[anchor 3] <i>Right now,
Tommy and Pam could not be happier.</i>

901
00:42:33,884 --> 00:42:36,303
<i>They're in newlywed bliss.</i>

902
00:42:36,387 --> 00:42:38,889
[anchor 4] <i>Some have said
that marriage to Pamela Anderson</i>

903
00:42:38,973 --> 00:42:42,893
<i>will have a calming influence
on the wild ways of rocker Tommy Lee.</i>

904
00:42:42,977 --> 00:42:44,436
[Tommy yelling]

905
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:45,854
[camera shutters clicking]

906
00:42:46,438 --> 00:42:48,691
- Soon, soon, soon. We wanna have babies.
- Yes.

907
00:42:52,987 --> 00:42:54,780
[music fades]

908
00:42:54,863 --> 00:42:56,574
[Pamela] We're moving in today.

909
00:42:58,659 --> 00:42:59,785
Whose are you?

910
00:43:05,541 --> 00:43:06,792
Get up, sleepy.

911
00:43:07,710 --> 00:43:09,670
I'm recording the whole thing.

912
00:43:10,921 --> 00:43:12,047
Our bedroom.

913
00:43:12,673 --> 00:43:17,428
Temporary drapes that close
because of stalkerazzis.

914
00:43:17,511 --> 00:43:19,346
We filmed everything back then.

915
00:43:19,430 --> 00:43:21,015
We always had these camcorders.

916
00:43:22,057 --> 00:43:24,643
Then you fill the tape,
and put the tape away and label it,

917
00:43:24,727 --> 00:43:26,407
and then you get another and you label it.

918
00:43:26,478 --> 00:43:28,647
But those were moments
I'm glad we captured.

919
00:43:28,731 --> 00:43:30,441
When are you gonna get me preggos?

920
00:43:30,524 --> 00:43:31,524
I know.

921
00:43:31,942 --> 00:43:32,942
I'm trying.

922
00:43:32,985 --> 00:43:34,653
[upbeat music playing]

923
00:43:34,737 --> 00:43:36,947
[reporters clamoring]

924
00:43:39,908 --> 00:43:42,178
[Pamela] It was my first time
at the Cannes Film Festival.

925
00:43:42,202 --> 00:43:45,205
And we went there to announce
that we were going to do <i>Barb Wire</i>.

926
00:43:46,915 --> 00:43:49,918
<i>Barb Wire </i>was
the only real movie role I had.

927
00:43:51,045 --> 00:43:53,339
[anchor] <i>Most press conferences here
are with film critics</i>

928
00:43:53,422 --> 00:43:56,717
<i>asking articulate questions
about the art of moviemaking.</i>

929
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,927
<i>That wasn't the case at Pamela's though.</i>

930
00:43:59,011 --> 00:44:00,971
[reporter] Are you trying to get pregnant?

931
00:44:01,055 --> 00:44:02,681
And how many children do you want?

932
00:44:03,390 --> 00:44:05,768
Well, how many do we want, baby?
Two or three.

933
00:44:06,602 --> 00:44:08,020
- Two or three kids.
- [Tommy] Two.

934
00:44:08,103 --> 00:44:10,481
Two. Yeah, but we're working on it.

935
00:44:11,940 --> 00:44:15,069
This whole <i>Barb Wire</i> was crazy
before we shot one bit of film.

936
00:44:15,986 --> 00:44:18,155
But after the Cannes Film Festival,

937
00:44:18,238 --> 00:44:21,283
they changed everything because
they thought this is gonna be huge.

938
00:44:21,367 --> 00:44:24,161
So they switched directors
and they switched storylines,

939
00:44:24,244 --> 00:44:26,705
and I don't even know
what that movie's about.

940
00:44:26,789 --> 00:44:27,998
I have no idea.

941
00:44:28,082 --> 00:44:29,442
- [man] Rolling.
- [man 2] Rolling.

942
00:44:29,500 --> 00:44:30,834
And action.

943
00:44:31,835 --> 00:44:33,355
I should blow your head off right now.

944
00:44:33,921 --> 00:44:36,131
I had the BWV, the Barb Wire Voice.

945
00:44:36,215 --> 00:44:38,258
I really just tried to talk very low.

946
00:44:39,635 --> 00:44:41,887
Don't call me babe.

947
00:44:42,888 --> 00:44:46,183
I was like,
"Oh God, that sounds terrible."

948
00:44:46,892 --> 00:44:49,770
I was shooting all the time.
I was shooting <i>Baywatch </i>during the day,

949
00:44:49,853 --> 00:44:52,022
<i>Barb Wire </i>at night and on the weekends.

950
00:44:52,648 --> 00:44:53,648
[Tommy] What's up?

951
00:44:54,066 --> 00:44:56,652
But then during the filming on <i>Barb Wire</i>,

952
00:44:56,735 --> 00:44:58,612
Tommy and I found out that I was pregnant.

953
00:44:59,571 --> 00:45:00,989
[indistinct chatter]

954
00:45:01,865 --> 00:45:03,951
[Pamela] We were making our nursery.

955
00:45:04,034 --> 00:45:05,494
[nostalgic music playing]

956
00:45:06,203 --> 00:45:07,621
[Pamela] We just were so excited.

957
00:45:07,705 --> 00:45:09,498
How cute!

958
00:45:10,874 --> 00:45:11,954
We never had a baby before,

959
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,920
so I've gotta see how this is gonna...
how this is gonna change my life

960
00:45:15,003 --> 00:45:16,880
and... and take up my time.

961
00:45:16,964 --> 00:45:18,924
Everyone was like,
"Well, we know you're pregnant,

962
00:45:18,966 --> 00:45:22,761
but you still have to kickbox
in that 17-inch corset,

963
00:45:22,845 --> 00:45:25,139
and you still have
to work 18 hours a day."

964
00:45:25,222 --> 00:45:28,350
That's business, what you have to do,
and I said, "I can do this."

965
00:45:28,976 --> 00:45:30,519
[Tommy] There they are, hard at work.

966
00:45:30,602 --> 00:45:33,313
[Pamela] I just feel fortunate
I'm doing a movie in my career, so...

967
00:45:33,397 --> 00:45:34,940
I mean, I'd like to do more projects.

968
00:45:35,691 --> 00:45:37,860
<i>"I'm so excited about my career."</i>

969
00:45:37,943 --> 00:45:39,361
<i>"I'm wanting it more now."</i>

970
00:45:39,945 --> 00:45:42,573
<i>"I'm going to be
the best actress I can be."</i>

971
00:45:43,282 --> 00:45:44,450
<i>"I won't give up."</i>

972
00:45:45,159 --> 00:45:47,536
This is real challenging,
it's a real demanding role,

973
00:45:47,619 --> 00:45:49,621
and, you know,
you can really only work so hard.

974
00:45:49,705 --> 00:45:51,707
And your body can only take so much.

975
00:45:51,790 --> 00:45:54,752
And on the set, there was a time
I wasn't feeling too well.

976
00:45:55,252 --> 00:45:57,212
She came in and she looked horrible.

977
00:45:57,296 --> 00:45:59,757
She was pale and shaking so bad.

978
00:46:00,424 --> 00:46:03,927
[Pamela] I ended up in the hospital,
and they told us we miscarried.

979
00:46:04,011 --> 00:46:05,971
[somber music playing]

980
00:46:06,054 --> 00:46:09,057
[Pamela] I remember,
Tommy slept in the hospital bed with me.

981
00:46:10,184 --> 00:46:12,603
We just were completely devastated

982
00:46:12,686 --> 00:46:14,855
because we really wanted
to start a family.

983
00:46:18,734 --> 00:46:21,945
When we were leaving the hospital,
paparazzi were following us,

984
00:46:22,029 --> 00:46:24,948
and we were definitely
a little bit out of our minds.

985
00:46:26,533 --> 00:46:28,911
Tommy was trying to evade the paparazzi.

986
00:46:28,994 --> 00:46:31,455
Starting to, like, swerve, like,
"We're not getting anywhere."

987
00:46:31,538 --> 00:46:34,625
I'm talking to him, "Please, please stop."
Then I'm like, "Ah, screw it!"

988
00:46:34,708 --> 00:46:36,210
And then I slam the door open

989
00:46:36,293 --> 00:46:38,837
and my door hit
that paparazzi's driver door.

990
00:46:39,463 --> 00:46:40,506
I just snapped.

991
00:46:41,423 --> 00:46:42,758
We jump on the car,

992
00:46:42,841 --> 00:46:45,093
and Tommy's putting his boot
through the windshield.

993
00:46:45,177 --> 00:46:46,178
It was crazy.

994
00:46:46,845 --> 00:46:49,848
We were just like,
"Everybody, stay away from us."

995
00:46:50,808 --> 00:46:53,936
Emotionally, I was really upset after that
and went back to work.

996
00:46:54,019 --> 00:46:55,899
You know, that was...
that was the hardest part,

997
00:46:55,938 --> 00:46:58,738
was just trying to get back into the film
and get back into the groove.

998
00:46:58,774 --> 00:47:01,276
This is when all those rumors came up,
you're on drugs...

999
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,402
Well, I had a miscarriage.

1000
00:47:03,821 --> 00:47:07,241
- [anchor] <i>Barb Wire</i> did not do well.
- [Pamela] It didn't do well, no.

1001
00:47:07,324 --> 00:47:10,536
[anchor] So, in many ways,
your first failure.

1002
00:47:10,619 --> 00:47:13,539
[Pamela] It wasn't the box office hit
everyone imagined.

1003
00:47:14,289 --> 00:47:17,626
But after the miscarriage,
I wasn't really thinking about <i>Barb Wire</i>.

1004
00:47:19,002 --> 00:47:20,254
<i>"I'm so depressed."</i>

1005
00:47:21,129 --> 00:47:24,132
<i>"I just did what was in front of me
to numb the pain."</i>

1006
00:47:24,925 --> 00:47:28,136
<i>"I never got to deal
with the grief of losing my first baby."</i>

1007
00:47:29,012 --> 00:47:30,264
<i>"I'm devastated."</i>

1008
00:47:32,182 --> 00:47:33,892
- [birds chirping]
- [dogs barking]

1009
00:47:33,976 --> 00:47:35,995
- [Pamela sighing] It's why...
- [Brandon] What's this?

1010
00:47:36,019 --> 00:47:37,938
[Pamela] Halloween party?
This was before Dylan.

1011
00:47:38,021 --> 00:47:40,023
This is... that's, uh, Tommy's 37th.

1012
00:47:40,107 --> 00:47:41,507
- I don't want...
- No, you don't...

1013
00:47:41,900 --> 00:47:44,170
- Does it have to be on another setting?
- I'm sure it does.

1014
00:47:44,194 --> 00:47:46,196
[Pamela] It's three.
In the old days it was three.

1015
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,424
- [Brandon] One time for three.
- [Pamela] There it is.

1016
00:47:48,448 --> 00:47:50,576
- [Brandon] Let's push play.
- [Pamela] Okay. I guess.

1017
00:47:52,452 --> 00:47:53,745
[Tommy] <i>Merry Christmas.</i>

1018
00:47:53,829 --> 00:47:54,872
[Pamela] <i>Merry Christmas.</i>

1019
00:47:54,955 --> 00:47:57,207
[Tommy] <i>We're at Mainsborough Hotel
where we're staying</i>

1020
00:47:57,291 --> 00:47:58,792
and having a fucking blast.

1021
00:47:59,376 --> 00:48:00,544
Whoa! A double-decker!

1022
00:48:00,627 --> 00:48:01,628
[nostalgic music playing]

1023
00:48:01,712 --> 00:48:03,213
[indistinct chatter]

1024
00:48:03,297 --> 00:48:05,173
[Pamela] I have that shot so many times.

1025
00:48:06,091 --> 00:48:07,634
[Tommy] I just paid, which is, um...

1026
00:48:07,718 --> 00:48:10,429
[Pamela] We're learning all about beer,
and this is what I'm having.

1027
00:48:10,512 --> 00:48:12,764
- [Tommy chuckling] Well, that's good.
- [Pamela] Water!

1028
00:48:17,227 --> 00:48:19,813
Videotape me preggos.
You haven't videotaped my preggo belly.

1029
00:48:19,897 --> 00:48:22,107
- [Tommy] Bust it out, baby.
- [chuckles]

1030
00:48:22,190 --> 00:48:23,609
[Pamela] We got pregnant again.

1031
00:48:24,985 --> 00:48:26,028
I was so happy.

1032
00:48:29,740 --> 00:48:32,701
[Tommy] My wife looks like she's having
just a wonderful time. [laughs]

1033
00:48:32,784 --> 00:48:35,245
[Pamela] Today's not a good day.
I feel sick.

1034
00:48:35,329 --> 00:48:37,789
Every other day
I've been feeling fucking great.

1035
00:48:37,873 --> 00:48:40,250
No filming Pamela on those days.

1036
00:48:42,002 --> 00:48:44,546
If Mommy doesn't get her tea,
she'll yell at me.

1037
00:48:44,630 --> 00:48:45,923
[Pamela laughing]

1038
00:48:46,006 --> 00:48:48,008
[Pamela] Well, you're drinking,
so I'm already mad.

1039
00:48:48,091 --> 00:48:50,302
- [Pamela laughing]
- [indistinct chatter]

1040
00:48:50,969 --> 00:48:52,971
I kissed him
and I just didn't know what happened.

1041
00:48:53,055 --> 00:48:54,222
[Tommy] Kiss me, kiss me.

1042
00:48:54,306 --> 00:48:55,349
[Pamela] <i>"Tommy."</i>

1043
00:48:55,432 --> 00:48:58,393
<i>"He is love, sex, rock and roll,</i>

1044
00:48:58,477 --> 00:48:59,311
<i>sweet,</i>

1045
00:48:59,394 --> 00:49:01,939
<i>don't forget talented, romantic,</i>

1046
00:49:02,022 --> 00:49:03,106
<i>and a bad drunk."</i>

1047
00:49:03,190 --> 00:49:04,024
[belching]

1048
00:49:04,107 --> 00:49:05,192
Crown me.

1049
00:49:05,275 --> 00:49:07,194
[Pamela] <i>"We are reckless and hopeful,</i>

1050
00:49:07,277 --> 00:49:10,572
<i>and may just have a unique way
of living that's right for us."</i>

1051
00:49:10,656 --> 00:49:11,740
[Pamela chuckling]

1052
00:49:12,282 --> 00:49:14,159
[Pamela] Fish and chips with vinegar.

1053
00:49:15,202 --> 00:49:18,038
- What do I do with these?
- [Tommy] Put them over your boobies.

1054
00:49:18,872 --> 00:49:19,872
[Tommy chuckling]

1055
00:49:20,707 --> 00:49:21,792
[Tommy] Whoa, baby!

1056
00:49:21,875 --> 00:49:23,752
[Pamela] That's about the size
of my nipples.

1057
00:49:23,835 --> 00:49:25,087
[Tommy chuckling]

1058
00:49:25,170 --> 00:49:26,380
[Pamela] I love you.

1059
00:49:26,463 --> 00:49:27,463
I love you.

1060
00:49:28,090 --> 00:49:29,090
[Pamela] How much?

1061
00:49:32,803 --> 00:49:33,803
Yeah.

1062
00:49:34,721 --> 00:49:35,597
Bye.

1063
00:49:35,681 --> 00:49:36,681
Press the fader.

1064
00:49:38,392 --> 00:49:39,309
Now press... No.

1065
00:49:39,393 --> 00:49:40,519
Now do your thumb.

1066
00:49:41,937 --> 00:49:43,939
[nostalgic music playing]

1067
00:49:47,526 --> 00:49:49,111
Baby, look what you did to me.

1068
00:49:49,194 --> 00:49:50,194
[Tommy chuckling]

1069
00:49:50,237 --> 00:49:52,489
[Pamela] <i>"March 20th, 1996."</i>

1070
00:49:53,490 --> 00:49:55,158
<i>"I wonder how our life will be."</i>

1071
00:49:55,784 --> 00:49:58,203
<i>"I can't wait
to play with our little baby."</i>

1072
00:49:58,286 --> 00:49:59,788
[Pamela] Dad's already drinking beer.

1073
00:49:59,871 --> 00:50:01,683
- Dad's already drinking beer.
- [Pamela laughs]

1074
00:50:01,707 --> 00:50:04,418
Yep, 'cause Dad's
fucking stoked right now.

1075
00:50:05,085 --> 00:50:06,294
[Pamela] That's me!

1076
00:50:06,837 --> 00:50:09,715
Brandon's in there.
I can see my belly button right there.

1077
00:50:10,215 --> 00:50:12,175
<i>"I feel Brandon moving."</i>

1078
00:50:12,259 --> 00:50:13,259
<i>"It's wild."</i>

1079
00:50:13,635 --> 00:50:17,139
<i>"I have a little person inside of me,
depending on me."</i>

1080
00:50:17,848 --> 00:50:19,349
<i>"I love him so much."</i>

1081
00:50:20,017 --> 00:50:22,394
<i>"I will be the best mother ever."</i>

1082
00:50:22,477 --> 00:50:24,730
All the paparazzi dudes are out there.

1083
00:50:25,814 --> 00:50:26,814
They suck.

1084
00:50:27,274 --> 00:50:29,317
[indistinct chatter on video]

1085
00:50:29,401 --> 00:50:32,070
Go film the paparazzis,
they were all around our house.

1086
00:50:32,154 --> 00:50:35,157
Hanging from trees.
They're waiting for the baby to be born.

1087
00:50:35,240 --> 00:50:36,158
[Dylan] That's insane.

1088
00:50:36,241 --> 00:50:37,325
Yeah, it was awful.

1089
00:50:38,201 --> 00:50:40,620
Someone's gonna be a daddy
in a couple days.

1090
00:50:42,789 --> 00:50:44,499
We're having Brandon tonight!

1091
00:50:45,208 --> 00:50:46,126
June 1st.

1092
00:50:46,209 --> 00:50:47,836
<i>"I'm aching with excitement."</i>

1093
00:50:47,919 --> 00:50:49,379
[Tommy] Is he coming, baby?

1094
00:50:49,463 --> 00:50:50,630
[Pamela] I don't know.

1095
00:50:50,714 --> 00:50:54,760
<i>"The wildest experience of my life is
about to take place in our home,</i>

1096
00:50:54,843 --> 00:50:56,094
<i>in our bedroom."</i>

1097
00:50:56,178 --> 00:51:00,015
<i>"The birth of our beautiful child,
Brandon Thomas Lee."</i>

1098
00:51:01,475 --> 00:51:03,477
[birds chirping]

1099
00:51:05,645 --> 00:51:06,897
[Tommy whispering] Hey, Momma.

1100
00:51:06,980 --> 00:51:08,106
[whispering] Hi, baby.

1101
00:51:08,190 --> 00:51:09,941
[Tommy] Congratulations.

1102
00:51:10,025 --> 00:51:11,818
Baby, we made a burrito.

1103
00:51:12,903 --> 00:51:15,280
Seventeen hours of natural labor.

1104
00:51:15,363 --> 00:51:16,573
[Tommy chuckling]

1105
00:51:16,656 --> 00:51:17,699
[Tommy] Hi, Brandon.

1106
00:51:18,283 --> 00:51:19,927
- [Pamela] Hey, now, hey.
- [Brandon cooing]

1107
00:51:19,951 --> 00:51:22,412
[Tommy] It's Daddy and Mommy.

1108
00:51:23,038 --> 00:51:25,141
- [Pamela] Look, he's playing with Daddy.
- [whistling]

1109
00:51:25,165 --> 00:51:26,500
[Pamela] Baby, you're a daddy.

1110
00:51:26,583 --> 00:51:27,834
[Tommy whistling softly]

1111
00:51:27,918 --> 00:51:29,377
[Pamela] It's a whole new life now.

1112
00:51:29,461 --> 00:51:30,461
[chuckling]

1113
00:51:31,588 --> 00:51:33,882
[Tommy] He was born at 3:05.

1114
00:51:33,965 --> 00:51:35,467
[Pamela] 3:02, I think.

1115
00:51:35,550 --> 00:51:37,094
[Tommy yawning]

1116
00:51:37,177 --> 00:51:39,846
It was very late, that's all I know.

1117
00:51:39,930 --> 00:51:40,930
[Pamela chuckling]

1118
00:51:41,973 --> 00:51:44,559
[Pamela] It was such a really happy time
in my life.

1119
00:51:45,310 --> 00:51:48,939
But we didn't realize
everything was about to change.

1120
00:51:49,022 --> 00:51:50,816
[Tommy] Okay, say bye, guys.

1121
00:51:50,899 --> 00:51:51,942
Bye.

1122
00:51:52,984 --> 00:51:55,278
[indistinct chatter]

1123
00:51:55,362 --> 00:51:57,322
[Pamela] We're slowly getting it done.

1124
00:51:57,405 --> 00:51:58,740
[Tommy] The koi pond.

1125
00:52:01,993 --> 00:52:04,162
[Pamela] We had construction going on
in the house.

1126
00:52:06,206 --> 00:52:09,709
And in the garage,
we had a safe the size of a refrigerator.

1127
00:52:09,793 --> 00:52:11,920
It was a gun safe.
It was behind a carpeted wall.

1128
00:52:12,712 --> 00:52:16,216
And Tommy had all his guns in there,
I had, like, the bikini I got married in,

1129
00:52:16,299 --> 00:52:19,427
I had all the corks from every
champagne bottle saved in there.

1130
00:52:19,511 --> 00:52:20,637
Corny stuff like that.

1131
00:52:22,389 --> 00:52:23,932
[Tommy] Hey, your radness.

1132
00:52:24,015 --> 00:52:25,892
[Pamela] We were in the house one day

1133
00:52:25,976 --> 00:52:28,353
and Tommy went
to get something out of the safe.

1134
00:52:28,436 --> 00:52:31,565
And then he came up and goes,
"Okay, this is a joke, right?"

1135
00:52:31,648 --> 00:52:33,400
"Like, who... Where'd you put the safe?"

1136
00:52:33,483 --> 00:52:36,111
And he was looking at my assistant,
John Roberts, at the time.

1137
00:52:36,194 --> 00:52:39,364
And John was like,
"What are you, crazy? I have no idea."

1138
00:52:39,447 --> 00:52:41,199
And then we went down there
and it was gone.

1139
00:52:41,283 --> 00:52:43,285
[tense music playing]

1140
00:52:44,578 --> 00:52:46,458
[Pamela] I didn't know what to do.
I called 911.

1141
00:52:47,789 --> 00:52:49,875
We filed a police report.

1142
00:52:50,542 --> 00:52:52,419
But nothing happened.

1143
00:52:53,420 --> 00:52:54,796
We had no idea when it was stolen

1144
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,049
because we had construction going on
at our house for quite a while.

1145
00:52:58,133 --> 00:53:00,719
It could've been stolen
in a six-month time period,

1146
00:53:00,802 --> 00:53:03,889
so we had no idea that it was missing.

1147
00:53:04,514 --> 00:53:06,516
We didn't have any idea
that anything in there

1148
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,894
was gonna be something that would hurt us.

1149
00:53:11,521 --> 00:53:12,939
Baby, I'm recording you.

1150
00:53:15,317 --> 00:53:18,445
But then, one day,
we got something in the mail.

1151
00:53:18,528 --> 00:53:20,030
It was wrapped in brown paper.

1152
00:53:21,198 --> 00:53:22,365
Tommy opened it.

1153
00:53:23,950 --> 00:53:25,243
It was a VHS tape.

1154
00:53:26,411 --> 00:53:29,539
Tommy, he told me to go upstairs,
and he watched it.

1155
00:53:30,290 --> 00:53:32,167
And I didn't watch it.
I've never watched it.

1156
00:53:33,043 --> 00:53:36,588
Later, he came upstairs and he goes,
"This is gonna be disturbing."

1157
00:53:37,464 --> 00:53:40,342
"This is a VHS tape of us having sex."

1158
00:53:40,425 --> 00:53:41,635
[music intensifies]

1159
00:53:43,220 --> 00:53:44,554
[music fades]

1160
00:53:44,638 --> 00:53:45,847
Oh my God.

1161
00:53:46,681 --> 00:53:48,600
We realized they have our home videos.

1162
00:53:49,184 --> 00:53:50,810
That's the "Oh shit" moment.

1163
00:53:51,394 --> 00:53:52,604
[somber music playing]

1164
00:53:52,687 --> 00:53:54,731
[Pamela] We were newly married.

1165
00:53:54,814 --> 00:53:56,107
I love you, Tommy.

1166
00:53:56,191 --> 00:53:57,609
I love you!

1167
00:53:57,692 --> 00:54:01,321
[Pamela] We just were naked all the time
and filmed each other on vacations.

1168
00:54:01,821 --> 00:54:03,698
This was just us being goofballs.

1169
00:54:03,782 --> 00:54:06,117
- You know, honking a horn with his penis.
- [horn honking]

1170
00:54:06,201 --> 00:54:07,327
[Pamela] Talented man.

1171
00:54:08,536 --> 00:54:11,957
What they did is they found all the nudity
they could from different Hi8 tapes,

1172
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:13,833
and they spliced it together.

1173
00:54:14,501 --> 00:54:15,418
Where's Daddy?

1174
00:54:15,502 --> 00:54:17,712
But we had no idea who sent the tape.

1175
00:54:18,296 --> 00:54:19,923
Here we go. Caught on tape.

1176
00:54:21,466 --> 00:54:23,843
If anybody is watching this, go to hell.

1177
00:54:24,636 --> 00:54:27,389
If anyone steals this tape,
you're going to hell.

1178
00:54:27,472 --> 00:54:30,850
So I'd turn it off
and send it back to the original owner.

1179
00:54:32,602 --> 00:54:34,521
- [phone ringing]
- [Pamela] Brandon.

1180
00:54:34,604 --> 00:54:35,855
Not too long after that...

1181
00:54:35,939 --> 00:54:36,939
[Tommy] Hello.

1182
00:54:37,899 --> 00:54:40,819
[Pamela] ...we got a letter
from Bob Guccione from <i>Penthouse.</i>

1183
00:54:42,696 --> 00:54:44,489
He offered to buy it from us.

1184
00:54:44,572 --> 00:54:48,243
He said, "I'll give you five million
in cash for the rights to this tape."

1185
00:54:49,452 --> 00:54:51,496
We said, "Fuck you.
Give us our tapes back."

1186
00:54:51,997 --> 00:54:54,457
This was not supposed to be
for anybody else.

1187
00:54:56,751 --> 00:54:57,836
We just really had no clue.

1188
00:54:57,919 --> 00:55:00,672
We thought that if we got the tape back,
it would stop.

1189
00:55:01,923 --> 00:55:05,510
We had no way to navigate it 'cause no one
else was going through anything like this.

1190
00:55:06,094 --> 00:55:09,306
You know, so we didn't really have
the playbook on how to,

1191
00:55:09,806 --> 00:55:12,851
you know, get it all back,
or make it go away.

1192
00:55:14,519 --> 00:55:16,521
[birds chirping]

1193
00:55:16,604 --> 00:55:19,524
Couple weeks later, Tommy watched the news
and he came up and goes,

1194
00:55:20,025 --> 00:55:22,736
"Okay, this is gonna be upsetting to you."

1195
00:55:23,403 --> 00:55:27,532
He told me that there's this girl
at Tower Records impersonating me,

1196
00:55:27,615 --> 00:55:31,161
some porn star outside signing copies
of the Pam and Tommy tape.

1197
00:55:31,995 --> 00:55:34,581
We saw it all over
the tabloids, the newspapers.

1198
00:55:34,664 --> 00:55:35,915
The tape is out.

1199
00:55:42,088 --> 00:55:43,089
Such an invasion.

1200
00:55:44,049 --> 00:55:45,967
We're angry and hurt and upset.

1201
00:55:46,843 --> 00:55:48,303
[Tommy] We feel very violated.

1202
00:55:48,386 --> 00:55:53,892
Some psycho decided to mass produce it
and put it all over the world.

1203
00:55:54,601 --> 00:55:59,022
Do you have any remorse for exploiting
celebrity or non-celebrity lives?

1204
00:55:59,105 --> 00:56:02,942
No, no. I mean, I... I don't feel like
we've... we've done anything negative.

1205
00:56:03,026 --> 00:56:05,487
[reporter] Pamela, can you stop?
Can you stop?

1206
00:56:05,570 --> 00:56:06,821
[reporters clamoring]

1207
00:56:06,905 --> 00:56:08,505
[reporter] Pamela, please have a word...

1208
00:56:08,531 --> 00:56:11,409
[Pamela] After that stolen tape came out,
we were under a lot of stress.

1209
00:56:11,493 --> 00:56:13,536
There was paparazzi everywhere.

1210
00:56:16,790 --> 00:56:19,501
It was our first night out
after I had Brandon.

1211
00:56:20,001 --> 00:56:21,378
And we went to The Viper Room.

1212
00:56:21,878 --> 00:56:23,546
My parents were watching Brandon.

1213
00:56:24,089 --> 00:56:27,092
We were leaving,
and the camera was right in my face.

1214
00:56:27,175 --> 00:56:28,510
[camera shutters clicking]

1215
00:56:28,593 --> 00:56:30,136
- [man] Hey!
- [Tommy] Fuck outta here!

1216
00:56:30,220 --> 00:56:31,220
[man 2] Hey, Tommy!

1217
00:56:32,055 --> 00:56:33,390
[Tommy] Fuck off!

1218
00:56:33,473 --> 00:56:34,391
[man 3] Tommy, get in.

1219
00:56:34,474 --> 00:56:36,601
[Pamela] Then we got pepper sprayed.

1220
00:56:36,684 --> 00:56:38,978
How dare you spray fucking pepper spray
down my mouth!

1221
00:56:39,062 --> 00:56:40,397
[man 2] We didn't spray anything.

1222
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:41,564
You're a drug fiend.

1223
00:56:41,648 --> 00:56:42,732
How dare you do that to me!

1224
00:56:42,816 --> 00:56:45,402
[man 2] Where's your child
this time of the morning?

1225
00:56:45,485 --> 00:56:47,838
- With my mother! With my mother!
- [man 2] Where's your baby?

1226
00:56:47,862 --> 00:56:49,364
Where is your baby?

1227
00:56:49,447 --> 00:56:52,075
With my mother! I'll fucking kill you.

1228
00:56:52,158 --> 00:56:53,701
You fucking asshole!

1229
00:56:53,785 --> 00:56:54,911
[indistinct clamoring]

1230
00:56:54,994 --> 00:56:57,664
[man 4] You deserve it, Tommy.
You're a fucking prick!

1231
00:56:57,747 --> 00:56:59,749
[pensive music playing]

1232
00:57:02,460 --> 00:57:05,004
[Pamela] I think both of us didn't know
how to handle any of it.

1233
00:57:05,088 --> 00:57:07,298
I mean, who knows how to handle
something like that?

1234
00:57:08,007 --> 00:57:10,885
But we had to have some recourse,
we had to do something.

1235
00:57:10,969 --> 00:57:13,596
We had to...
we had to at least try to fight back

1236
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,682
because this was stolen out of our home.

1237
00:57:15,765 --> 00:57:19,185
And there's no way that people should
be able to steal something from your home

1238
00:57:19,269 --> 00:57:22,230
and then sell it
in front of the whole world.

1239
00:57:22,313 --> 00:57:23,523
[reporters clamoring]

1240
00:57:23,606 --> 00:57:24,606
[man] Come closer.

1241
00:57:25,525 --> 00:57:28,194
[Pamela] A tape was stolen
from Tommy Lee and myself.

1242
00:57:28,278 --> 00:57:33,241
IEG is now selling that tape worldwide
illegally without my or Tommy's consent.

1243
00:57:33,324 --> 00:57:35,660
We have not received one penny
or signed an agreement

1244
00:57:35,743 --> 00:57:37,383
permitting them to merchandise this tape.

1245
00:57:37,996 --> 00:57:41,082
At some point, Ed Masry,
he was the lawyer in <i>Erin Brockovich</i>,

1246
00:57:41,166 --> 00:57:43,543
he contacted us
and said he would take it on.

1247
00:57:44,169 --> 00:57:45,253
And we said, "Sure."

1248
00:57:45,336 --> 00:57:48,923
Pam and Tommy were definitely the victims
in this, uh, Pam and Tommy tape.

1249
00:57:49,007 --> 00:57:50,467
There's no question of that.

1250
00:57:50,550 --> 00:57:52,677
[Pamela] It's been exploited
all over the world,

1251
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:54,304
and everyone's making money off it.

1252
00:57:54,387 --> 00:57:57,765
Especially at this time in my life,
this is absolutely horrendous.

1253
00:57:57,849 --> 00:58:00,518
I really feel that...
that we'll... we'll get them.

1254
00:58:00,602 --> 00:58:03,229
And they'll pay for this
because this is illegal.

1255
00:58:03,313 --> 00:58:05,106
And I want to make it real clear

1256
00:58:05,190 --> 00:58:08,693
that Pam and Tommy
turned down five million dollars cash.

1257
00:58:08,776 --> 00:58:10,236
They didn't wanna release that tape.

1258
00:58:11,321 --> 00:58:12,841
[Pamela] My fight is not for me alone,

1259
00:58:12,906 --> 00:58:15,492
but for all celebrities
whose privacy has been invaded.

1260
00:58:15,575 --> 00:58:18,578
I will continue to fight
not only for myself and my children,

1261
00:58:19,078 --> 00:58:22,165
but also for legislation that would make
what they're doing to me a crime.

1262
00:58:23,416 --> 00:58:25,793
It was a big case,
it was a right to privacy case.

1263
00:58:25,877 --> 00:58:28,213
So it was an important case
to set a precedent.

1264
00:58:28,296 --> 00:58:30,298
[reporters speaking indistinctly]

1265
00:58:34,052 --> 00:58:37,180
[Pamela] When the deposition started,
I was pregnant again.

1266
00:58:38,598 --> 00:58:41,851
I was nervous that it was all
gonna affect the health of our baby.

1267
00:58:41,935 --> 00:58:43,311
[pensive music playing]

1268
00:58:43,394 --> 00:58:46,481
[Pamela] I didn't know
that I was gonna be completely humiliated.

1269
00:58:48,107 --> 00:58:49,651
And I remember walking into the room.

1270
00:58:49,734 --> 00:58:52,570
All these guys in there
they had up naked pictures of me.

1271
00:58:53,988 --> 00:58:55,406
The lawyers basically said,

1272
00:58:55,490 --> 00:58:57,575
"You're in <i>Playboy</i>,
you have no right to privacy."

1273
00:58:58,535 --> 00:59:01,454
And that was a little bit shocking, but...

1274
00:59:03,081 --> 00:59:04,249
[Pamela sighing]

1275
00:59:07,168 --> 00:59:09,337
[Pamela] They would ask about my sex life.

1276
00:59:10,380 --> 00:59:11,673
And I kept on thinking,

1277
00:59:11,756 --> 00:59:14,259
"How am I getting questioned
about my sexuality,

1278
00:59:14,342 --> 00:59:16,469
and my preferences, and my body parts,

1279
00:59:16,553 --> 00:59:19,138
and where I would like to make love,
when it's stolen property?"

1280
00:59:20,390 --> 00:59:23,476
It made me feel like
I was such a horrible woman.

1281
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,061
I'm just a piece of meat.

1282
00:59:25,144 --> 00:59:28,481
That this should mean nothing to me
because I'm such a whore, basically.

1283
00:59:29,816 --> 00:59:31,985
They didn't have a lot of sympathy,
you know, for me.

1284
00:59:32,068 --> 00:59:35,113
They're all, "Oh, she's in <i>Playboy</i>,
she likes being naked in public."

1285
00:59:37,782 --> 00:59:40,118
First of all,
it was my choice to be in the magazine.

1286
00:59:40,743 --> 00:59:42,287
<i>Playboy </i>was empowering for me.

1287
00:59:43,913 --> 00:59:46,416
But in this case, it felt like a rape.

1288
00:59:48,459 --> 00:59:51,379
Not to bring up
something really heavy from my childhood,

1289
00:59:51,462 --> 00:59:55,133
but when I was attacked by this guy,
I thought everybody would know.

1290
00:59:56,342 --> 00:59:58,886
When the tape was stolen,
it felt like that.

1291
01:00:00,388 --> 01:00:02,640
And the depositions were so brutal.

1292
01:00:03,975 --> 01:00:07,395
I remember looking at them thinking,
"Why do they hate me so much?"

1293
01:00:07,478 --> 01:00:10,231
"Why do these grown men hate me so much?"

1294
01:00:12,066 --> 01:00:13,985
I don't know how many days I was deposed,

1295
01:00:14,068 --> 01:00:16,529
but they wanted me
to come back and come back.

1296
01:00:17,614 --> 01:00:19,073
I just said to Tommy, I said,

1297
01:00:19,157 --> 01:00:21,367
"I can't take it,
I can't take it anymore."

1298
01:00:23,244 --> 01:00:25,705
And this would've been
probably years of fighting.

1299
01:00:26,247 --> 01:00:28,374
I know some people
would've fought to the death on it,

1300
01:00:28,458 --> 01:00:29,667
but I'm pregnant.

1301
01:00:29,751 --> 01:00:31,711
I don't want this to affect the baby.

1302
01:00:31,794 --> 01:00:33,880
Tommy and I had a miscarriage first.

1303
01:00:33,963 --> 01:00:36,090
We were scared that it could happen again.

1304
01:00:36,174 --> 01:00:39,969
We're not going
to put Dylan's life at risk,

1305
01:00:40,053 --> 01:00:41,888
'cause it was just tearing me apart.

1306
01:00:43,973 --> 01:00:45,808
It absolutely devastated me.

1307
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,730
But I just closed my eyes
and signed the papers.

1308
01:00:57,695 --> 01:01:01,240
[anchor] The Lees dropped their lawsuit
against cyber-sex company IEG.

1309
01:01:01,866 --> 01:01:04,744
IEG is now playing the video,
which is spreading quickly,

1310
01:01:04,827 --> 01:01:08,039
and is already available
on many World Wide Web sites.

1311
01:01:08,122 --> 01:01:10,225
[Pamela] Well,
this was the beginning of the Internet.

1312
01:01:10,249 --> 01:01:12,710
We weren't thinking
about anything like that.

1313
01:01:12,794 --> 01:01:15,630
We had no idea that it was gonna go
all over the world,

1314
01:01:15,713 --> 01:01:17,298
you know, in an instant.

1315
01:01:21,135 --> 01:01:25,223
It really was the first viral video.

1316
01:01:25,306 --> 01:01:27,266
You can only sell so many fucking DVDs,

1317
01:01:27,350 --> 01:01:30,478
but when you open it up
to the Internet, it's endless.

1318
01:01:30,561 --> 01:01:32,105
Really? The world's gonna see this?

1319
01:01:34,607 --> 01:01:36,847
[anchor] People from around the world
joined the Internet

1320
01:01:36,901 --> 01:01:38,903
to view the Anderson/Lee sex tape,

1321
01:01:38,986 --> 01:01:41,531
causing a cyber traffic jam
on multiple websites.

1322
01:01:41,614 --> 01:01:44,635
- [anchor 2] Their most intimate moments...
- [anchor 3] ...took the Web by storm.

1323
01:01:44,659 --> 01:01:46,387
[anchor 4]
Viewed by millions of strangers...

1324
01:01:46,411 --> 01:01:48,413
[anchor 5] Private affairs
are now a public record.

1325
01:01:50,998 --> 01:01:52,625
[music fades]

1326
01:01:52,709 --> 01:01:54,669
[Pamela] We never made a dime off that.

1327
01:01:55,586 --> 01:01:57,380
And I hate when people say
that we settled.

1328
01:01:57,463 --> 01:02:00,174
We never settled on anything,
we just told everyone to get lost.

1329
01:02:00,258 --> 01:02:05,346
If anyone watches it, if anyone buys it,
if anyone sells it, it's just pathetic.

1330
01:02:05,430 --> 01:02:07,390
[somber music playing]

1331
01:02:07,473 --> 01:02:09,073
[Pamela] You can't put a monetary number

1332
01:02:09,100 --> 01:02:11,728
on the amount of pain and suffering
that it caused.

1333
01:02:12,228 --> 01:02:15,106
Well, jump on the bandwagon,
everyone's making fun of us and...

1334
01:02:15,189 --> 01:02:17,525
Making fun? What?
What are you talking about?

1335
01:02:18,651 --> 01:02:19,861
I'm shocked.

1336
01:02:19,944 --> 01:02:21,946
Pamela Lee... Pamela Lee and Tommy Lee

1337
01:02:22,029 --> 01:02:23,749
Pamela Lee and Tommy... Pamela and Tommy...

1338
01:02:23,823 --> 01:02:25,116
Pamela and Tommy Lee...

1339
01:02:25,199 --> 01:02:28,911
[Pamela] I was the punch line
of a lot of jokes on talk shows.

1340
01:02:29,662 --> 01:02:30,913
It was super humiliating.

1341
01:02:30,997 --> 01:02:32,165
- It's not funny.
- [laughs]

1342
01:02:32,248 --> 01:02:34,375
It's not funny. This is devastating to us.

1343
01:02:34,459 --> 01:02:35,501
Well, look...

1344
01:02:35,585 --> 01:02:36,836
- It is?
- It is!

1345
01:02:36,919 --> 01:02:39,005
If they fall in love
with you one way, that is it.

1346
01:02:40,173 --> 01:02:43,593
A sex tape and you're kinda of always
gonna be that kind of image.

1347
01:02:44,218 --> 01:02:45,858
- [Howard] I have it on DVD.
- [man] Yeah?

1348
01:02:45,887 --> 01:02:47,847
[Robin] Gotta get a clear picture.

1349
01:02:47,930 --> 01:02:48,806
Is it on DVD?

1350
01:02:48,890 --> 01:02:50,075
- It's on DVD?
- [Howard] It is.

1351
01:02:50,099 --> 01:02:51,434
[Pamela] Oh, that's pathetic.

1352
01:02:52,018 --> 01:02:55,772
After that, it just felt like that
solidified kind of the cartoon image too.

1353
01:02:56,898 --> 01:02:58,775
You become a caricature.

1354
01:03:01,527 --> 01:03:06,908
I think that was the deterioration of,
kind of, whatever image I had.

1355
01:03:06,991 --> 01:03:09,160
[anchor] <i>The world's most famous sex icon.</i>

1356
01:03:09,243 --> 01:03:10,578
[anchor 2] <i>Know my favorite part?</i>

1357
01:03:10,661 --> 01:03:13,766
<i>- Doesn't she have the prettiest vagina?</i>
- [anchor 3] <i>A pussy taking a pounding...</i>

1358
01:03:13,790 --> 01:03:16,375
[anchor 4] <i>...image she cheerfully exploits
on television...</i>

1359
01:03:16,459 --> 01:03:17,794
[camera shutters clicking]

1360
01:03:18,836 --> 01:03:20,922
[Pamela] It was different for me
than it was for him.

1361
01:03:22,048 --> 01:03:23,758
Tommy is a rock star.

1362
01:03:24,842 --> 01:03:27,720
It all adds to the image
of the craziness and everything.

1363
01:03:29,388 --> 01:03:32,058
But I knew at that point
my career was over.

1364
01:03:33,392 --> 01:03:36,479
- I've always loved fairy tales.
- Would you wanna be a serious actress?

1365
01:03:36,562 --> 01:03:38,482
- I am a serious actress.
- [chuckling] I mean...

1366
01:03:38,564 --> 01:03:40,024
[audience laughing]

1367
01:03:40,107 --> 01:03:42,693
[Pamela] I was thinking maybe
I could have a more serious career.

1368
01:03:42,777 --> 01:03:46,197
But had to kind of
make a career out of the pieces left.

1369
01:03:48,991 --> 01:03:51,118
Then everything
kind of blew up after that.

1370
01:03:54,914 --> 01:03:56,916
[music fades]

1371
01:03:57,500 --> 01:03:58,793
Yeah. I don't feel very good.

1372
01:03:58,876 --> 01:04:02,129
And I wanna articulate it the best I can
because I... I mean, it's hard.

1373
01:04:02,213 --> 01:04:04,674
Sometimes you wonder
why you're talking about it all again,

1374
01:04:04,757 --> 01:04:07,009
but, you know,
it's part of what we're doing and...

1375
01:04:08,469 --> 01:04:11,472
It's good to get it out
at least once or twice in your own words.

1376
01:04:11,556 --> 01:04:12,807
[laughs] In my own words.

1377
01:04:12,890 --> 01:04:15,226
[Pamela sighing heavily]

1378
01:04:15,309 --> 01:04:16,811
[birds chirping]

1379
01:04:27,738 --> 01:04:29,282
[pensive music playing]

1380
01:04:33,661 --> 01:04:35,663
[Pamela] I have romanticized the past.

1381
01:04:38,374 --> 01:04:40,209
So, I mean,
now that we're talking about it,

1382
01:04:40,293 --> 01:04:42,653
I could remember some things
that were really big red flags.

1383
01:04:45,339 --> 01:04:49,302
But if I didn't think about it too much,
I'd think our relationship was perfect.

1384
01:04:50,970 --> 01:04:52,972
Tommy comes by every day.

1385
01:04:53,055 --> 01:04:54,432
He's here every single day.

1386
01:04:54,515 --> 01:04:56,309
He's basically moved into my trailer.

1387
01:04:56,809 --> 01:04:58,853
While I was on <i>Baywatch</i>,
I would be in my trailer,

1388
01:04:58,936 --> 01:05:01,689
he would sneak in
because it was his time with his wife.

1389
01:05:01,772 --> 01:05:03,065
Tommy was so jealous.

1390
01:05:04,108 --> 01:05:05,276
I thought it was cute.

1391
01:05:05,776 --> 01:05:08,154
I thought it was cute
and I thought that was what love is.

1392
01:05:08,237 --> 01:05:09,947
Oh, that's so romantic.

1393
01:05:13,701 --> 01:05:15,912
<i>"It's my last season of </i>Baywatch<i>."</i>

1394
01:05:16,412 --> 01:05:19,624
<i>"I had to kiss David Chokachi,
but I didn't tell Tommy."</i>

1395
01:05:21,083 --> 01:05:22,168
<i>"He lost it."</i>

1396
01:05:26,047 --> 01:05:28,758
<i>"He came and trashed my trailer
on the set."</i>

1397
01:05:28,841 --> 01:05:30,635
<i>"Put his fist through a cabinet."</i>

1398
01:05:32,595 --> 01:05:34,555
<i>"I apologized for not telling him,</i>

1399
01:05:34,639 --> 01:05:36,098
<i>lying, as he put it,</i>

1400
01:05:37,266 --> 01:05:39,518
<i>and told him it wouldn't happen again."</i>

1401
01:05:42,229 --> 01:05:45,029
He would always know when to show up.
He would look at the call sheets.

1402
01:05:45,107 --> 01:05:47,068
He would see what scene she was in.

1403
01:05:47,151 --> 01:05:49,871
He probably had access to the script,
and would show up in the scenes

1404
01:05:49,904 --> 01:05:53,032
where there could be an opportunity
for him to get pissed.

1405
01:05:53,115 --> 01:05:55,427
[Pamela] The whole <i>Baywatch </i>crew,
if they saw Tommy coming,

1406
01:05:55,451 --> 01:05:58,037
they would change the dialogue,
change the scene.

1407
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:00,873
He was always in my eyeline,
he would always be behind the camera.

1408
01:06:00,957 --> 01:06:02,416
Tommy was always there.

1409
01:06:02,500 --> 01:06:04,043
It was too much, you know.

1410
01:06:05,044 --> 01:06:06,170
[inaudible]

1411
01:06:06,253 --> 01:06:08,214
[Pamela] I was working, always working.

1412
01:06:09,715 --> 01:06:13,302
And we had two beautiful kids,
so I was busy with them.

1413
01:06:13,386 --> 01:06:16,514
And I think Tommy went through
a little bit of postpartum.

1414
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:19,684
Hi, Dylan. Happy Valentine's Day.

1415
01:06:19,767 --> 01:06:21,894
- There's our flowers Dada got Mommy.
- [Dylan cooing]

1416
01:06:22,478 --> 01:06:26,399
There was a terrible night
when Tommy was just rocking on the floor.

1417
01:06:26,482 --> 01:06:29,694
Brandon was crying in the playpen
and I was holding Dylan.

1418
01:06:30,403 --> 01:06:32,989
But Tommy was going, "I want my wife back.
I want my wife back."

1419
01:06:33,990 --> 01:06:35,590
At that point, I didn't know what to do.

1420
01:06:35,616 --> 01:06:37,868
And I just said,
"I need some fucking help around here."

1421
01:06:37,952 --> 01:06:40,162
I said, "You gotta grow up.
It's not about you anymore."

1422
01:06:40,246 --> 01:06:42,039
And I'd never spoken
that way to him before.

1423
01:06:42,123 --> 01:06:43,499
I'd never ever.

1424
01:06:44,458 --> 01:06:46,419
I didn't recognize him. He went black.

1425
01:06:48,462 --> 01:06:51,090
And then I started
hyperventilating, scared.

1426
01:06:51,173 --> 01:06:53,843
Brandon was shaking and screaming,
and holding my leg.

1427
01:06:55,678 --> 01:06:58,723
So I called 911, I put the receiver off.

1428
01:06:58,806 --> 01:07:00,141
[tense music playing]

1429
01:07:00,725 --> 01:07:02,101
[dogs barking]

1430
01:07:04,937 --> 01:07:07,273
[anchor] Lee was arrested
at the couple's Malibu home

1431
01:07:07,356 --> 01:07:10,109
and charged with spousal and child abuse.

1432
01:07:10,192 --> 01:07:14,238
He allegedly kicked his wife while
she was holding the couple's infant son.

1433
01:07:15,114 --> 01:07:20,036
The injuries that they noticed to Pamela
were an injury to her right hand,

1434
01:07:20,119 --> 01:07:22,872
a broken fingernail,
and also bleeding to that hand.

1435
01:07:22,955 --> 01:07:26,375
They also noticed that she had redness
to her lower back area.

1436
01:07:26,459 --> 01:07:28,539
Deputies offered her medical treatment,
she declined.

1437
01:07:28,586 --> 01:07:29,712
[reporters clamoring]

1438
01:07:29,795 --> 01:07:33,007
[anchor] The rock musician was released
on half a million dollars' bail,

1439
01:07:33,090 --> 01:07:36,510
but prohibited from telephoning
or going near his spouse.

1440
01:07:36,594 --> 01:07:37,928
[camera shutters clicking]

1441
01:07:38,012 --> 01:07:39,805
I... I miss my family very much

1442
01:07:39,889 --> 01:07:43,225
and, uh, you know, I'm very sorry
that this is happening to us.

1443
01:07:43,809 --> 01:07:45,144
I never hit Pamela.

1444
01:07:45,686 --> 01:07:46,520
Uh... uh...

1445
01:07:46,604 --> 01:07:51,150
Grabbing, uh, a woman
and shaking a woman is not...

1446
01:07:51,233 --> 01:07:52,568
not cool either,

1447
01:07:52,651 --> 01:07:54,320
but that's... that's what was done.

1448
01:07:54,403 --> 01:07:55,905
[Leslie] Why would you do that?

1449
01:07:55,988 --> 01:08:00,618
I mean, what was it about your anger
that would make you lash out physically?

1450
01:08:00,701 --> 01:08:02,703
[Tommy sighing heavily]

1451
01:08:04,121 --> 01:08:05,706
[Tommy] It's a lot of pressure.

1452
01:08:06,624 --> 01:08:10,920
We've been going through a lot of stuff,
sex tapes appearing, postpartum,

1453
01:08:11,003 --> 01:08:12,213
and two new babies.

1454
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,633
Tommy comes third now, instead of first.

1455
01:08:16,133 --> 01:08:17,927
I don't know how to deal with that.

1456
01:08:18,010 --> 01:08:21,138
Just start stacking them all up
and you got a guy who...

1457
01:08:22,098 --> 01:08:26,102
Really, the whole argument
stemmed that evening

1458
01:08:27,061 --> 01:08:29,146
from me wanting some love.

1459
01:08:29,230 --> 01:08:30,356
[somber music playing]

1460
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:33,400
[anchor] <i>Mötley Crüe drummer Tommy Lee
was taken away in handcuffs</i>

1461
01:08:33,484 --> 01:08:36,028
<i>after being sentenced
to six months in jail.</i>

1462
01:08:36,695 --> 01:08:39,198
I'm happy
that he took responsibility for this.

1463
01:08:39,281 --> 01:08:41,700
And I think
it's the first step towards healing.

1464
01:08:41,784 --> 01:08:43,786
[reporter]
Do you think he deserves six months?

1465
01:08:45,162 --> 01:08:47,164
[indistinct chatter]

1466
01:08:47,706 --> 01:08:49,466
[Leslie] What did you think,
sitting in jail,

1467
01:08:49,542 --> 01:08:54,421
that Dylan, at six or seven weeks,
was in Pamela's arms?

1468
01:08:55,005 --> 01:08:56,799
I mean, at six- or seven-weeks,

1469
01:08:56,882 --> 01:09:00,302
fate could have left you
with one son instead of two.

1470
01:09:01,971 --> 01:09:03,597
Has that ever crossed your mind?

1471
01:09:04,098 --> 01:09:05,098
Not during it.

1472
01:09:05,516 --> 01:09:06,976
Afterwards, absolutely.

1473
01:09:08,602 --> 01:09:12,106
If you had the chance to apologize,
would you apologize?

1474
01:09:12,189 --> 01:09:13,440
Oh, I have.

1475
01:09:13,524 --> 01:09:14,441
I have.

1476
01:09:14,525 --> 01:09:16,235
I apologized several times.

1477
01:09:17,111 --> 01:09:19,297
[Pamela] I tried to end the marriage,
he didn't want to.

1478
01:09:19,321 --> 01:09:21,782
I mean,
I have all the letters from him from jail.

1479
01:09:22,449 --> 01:09:23,534
[Pamela sighing]

1480
01:09:25,911 --> 01:09:28,831
Aw, picture yourself here
and he had 'em all like...

1481
01:09:29,540 --> 01:09:32,042
Brandon, Dylan, Tommy, Pamela.

1482
01:09:32,126 --> 01:09:33,294
[clearing throat] Yeah.

1483
01:09:33,836 --> 01:09:34,962
I'm sure I can't read these.

1484
01:09:35,045 --> 01:09:38,299
These are gonna be way too much for me
to read right now, but I don't know.

1485
01:09:39,175 --> 01:09:41,260
He really fought for us to stay together.

1486
01:09:41,343 --> 01:09:44,513
I mean, I had to bifurcate the divorce
'cause he wouldn't sign the papers.

1487
01:09:44,597 --> 01:09:48,392
He thought we could get through it.
I just took my kids and was like, "No."

1488
01:09:49,894 --> 01:09:51,645
You know, it wasn't a gray area for me.

1489
01:09:51,729 --> 01:09:53,480
It was, like, you can't do that.

1490
01:09:56,192 --> 01:09:57,192
Yeah.

1491
01:09:59,028 --> 01:10:01,488
<i>"I've never loved someone so deeply."</i>

1492
01:10:02,281 --> 01:10:05,159
<i>"And by deeply, I mean, I loved his soul."</i>

1493
01:10:06,994 --> 01:10:09,079
<i>"I feel like part of me has died."</i>

1494
01:10:11,832 --> 01:10:13,834
- [music fades]
- [birds chirping]

1495
01:10:18,672 --> 01:10:21,050
[Pamela] That's the San Fernando Valley
over there.

1496
01:10:21,133 --> 01:10:22,051
[Brandon] Where are we?

1497
01:10:22,134 --> 01:10:24,720
That's when we were living
in Wayne Gretzky's house.

1498
01:10:24,803 --> 01:10:25,888
Oh, no way.

1499
01:10:25,971 --> 01:10:27,223
[Pamela] Hi, baby!

1500
01:10:27,306 --> 01:10:29,350
Yeah. This is when I moved out, I guess.

1501
01:10:29,433 --> 01:10:32,019
I think Dad might've even been in jail
at this time.

1502
01:10:33,395 --> 01:10:34,230
Terrible.

1503
01:10:34,313 --> 01:10:35,606
I hate that. [sniffles]

1504
01:10:38,817 --> 01:10:40,986
- Night night, baby.
- [Dylan squealing]

1505
01:10:41,570 --> 01:10:43,030
[Pamela] <i>There he is.</i>

1506
01:10:43,113 --> 01:10:44,793
[laughing] Dylan looks like a little doll!

1507
01:10:44,823 --> 01:10:46,951
Dylan. Smile, baby.

1508
01:10:47,034 --> 01:10:49,370
[Pamela] <i>"October 11th, 1998."</i>

1509
01:10:50,079 --> 01:10:51,247
<i>"My little Dilly."</i>

1510
01:10:51,330 --> 01:10:52,456
I can't see Dylan!

1511
01:10:52,539 --> 01:10:55,042
There he is. He's got a hat like Grandpa.

1512
01:10:55,542 --> 01:10:58,087
<i>"I felt compelled to write to you,
my little man."</i>

1513
01:10:58,837 --> 01:11:02,174
<i>"You've seen a lot in your nine months,
and I wanted to write you</i>

1514
01:11:02,258 --> 01:11:04,802
<i>so one day you can read this
and maybe understand</i>

1515
01:11:04,885 --> 01:11:06,804
<i>how we came to be where we are."</i>

1516
01:11:06,887 --> 01:11:09,974
Oh, Dylan, you have not seen
your baby stuff. Come here, come here!

1517
01:11:10,474 --> 01:11:13,102
That I have this. This is when
we first moved into the house.

1518
01:11:13,185 --> 01:11:14,645
Say "I'm Dilly-do."

1519
01:11:14,728 --> 01:11:17,106
- I Dilly-do.
- [Pamela] And I love you!

1520
01:11:17,189 --> 01:11:19,900
I'm, like, all cute,
and Brandon's like a little devil.

1521
01:11:19,984 --> 01:11:21,068
[Pamela laughing]

1522
01:11:21,151 --> 01:11:23,111
- [Pamela] Oh yeah, I know you were.
- [all laugh]

1523
01:11:23,696 --> 01:11:26,949
<i>"Your daddy,
Tommy Lee Bass, and I were married</i>

1524
01:11:27,032 --> 01:11:29,576
<i>after knowing each other for four days."</i>

1525
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:31,578
<i>"Love at first sight."</i>

1526
01:11:31,662 --> 01:11:34,873
This is his mobile
on the <i>Baywatch </i>set, he likes...

1527
01:11:34,957 --> 01:11:36,000
[Carol] Mommy's bra.

1528
01:11:36,083 --> 01:11:37,751
[Pamela] Isn't that pretty?

1529
01:11:38,252 --> 01:11:41,755
<i>"Mommy and Daddy will eventually
be able to be friends, I hope."</i>

1530
01:11:41,839 --> 01:11:44,466
<i>"But I want you to know
that I would rather be alone</i>

1531
01:11:44,550 --> 01:11:46,969
<i>than ever live with that abuse again."</i>

1532
01:11:47,052 --> 01:11:49,888
<i>"You will always be in a safe place."</i>

1533
01:11:51,598 --> 01:11:53,684
It was challenging
when Tommy and I separated

1534
01:11:53,767 --> 01:11:55,894
and they didn't see their dad a lot.

1535
01:11:55,978 --> 01:11:57,563
I'm trying to sleep!

1536
01:11:57,646 --> 01:11:58,897
Now get out, you!

1537
01:11:58,981 --> 01:12:00,858
[Pamela] You don't talk to Mommy that way.

1538
01:12:00,941 --> 01:12:03,652
- You warming your butt up?
- Yep.

1539
01:12:03,736 --> 01:12:08,115
[Pamela] <i>"Dylan, you are lying right next
to me as I write this in Mommy's big bed."</i>

1540
01:12:09,033 --> 01:12:11,368
<i>"I love you so much, I'm crying."</i>

1541
01:12:11,452 --> 01:12:13,245
[exhaling heavily]

1542
01:12:13,329 --> 01:12:16,582
[Pamela] <i>"And with my tears,
I've marked on your little forehead."</i>

1543
01:12:17,082 --> 01:12:17,916
[Dylan] <i>What?</i>

1544
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,169
[Pamela] Say goodbye to Lake Tahoe.

1545
01:12:20,252 --> 01:12:23,005
Here comes the private plane,
on, um, Bob Seger's jet.

1546
01:12:23,088 --> 01:12:24,757
Yo, ho, ho, ho!

1547
01:12:25,257 --> 01:12:26,759
[Pamela] There's only one ho in here.

1548
01:12:27,259 --> 01:12:30,137
[Dylan] "There's only one ho in here."
Oh, no.

1549
01:12:32,681 --> 01:12:35,768
[Pamela] <i>"My mom taught me
the most important lesson in life."</i>

1550
01:12:36,268 --> 01:12:38,729
<i>"When you are hurt, you have two options,</i>

1551
01:12:39,229 --> 01:12:41,315
<i>to close off, become bitter,</i>

1552
01:12:42,024 --> 01:12:44,193
<i>or love more, persevere."</i>

1553
01:12:45,527 --> 01:12:47,237
<i>"Love is the greatest healer."</i>

1554
01:12:47,946 --> 01:12:49,114
<i>"I choose love."</i>

1555
01:12:55,496 --> 01:12:57,498
[water sloshing]

1556
01:13:03,295 --> 01:13:05,506
[Pamela] I always gravitated
towards animals.

1557
01:13:07,466 --> 01:13:10,511
I just felt like I could trust animals
more than people.

1558
01:13:12,513 --> 01:13:14,556
And since the stolen tape,

1559
01:13:15,182 --> 01:13:18,060
I've always questioned
everything, everyone.

1560
01:13:18,143 --> 01:13:19,603
[dog panting]

1561
01:13:19,686 --> 01:13:21,772
[Pamela] I didn't feel
like I had a lot of respect.

1562
01:13:23,107 --> 01:13:25,359
<i>"People always have projects for me,</i>

1563
01:13:25,442 --> 01:13:27,694
<i>but they're usually very sexual roles."</i>

1564
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:29,947
[suspenseful music playing]

1565
01:13:30,030 --> 01:13:31,657
[gasping]

1566
01:13:31,740 --> 01:13:35,285
[screaming]

1567
01:13:38,622 --> 01:13:42,042
[Pamela] And I sometimes get really
caught up in being a caricature.

1568
01:13:42,126 --> 01:13:45,629
I catch myself
living more like that than myself.

1569
01:13:47,881 --> 01:13:49,091
<i>"I want more."</i>

1570
01:13:49,174 --> 01:13:50,217
<i>"I need more."</i>

1571
01:13:51,593 --> 01:13:54,179
<i>"I want to be proud
of my accomplishments."</i>

1572
01:13:55,139 --> 01:13:57,891
I was sick of talking about
my boyfriends and my boobs all the time.

1573
01:13:57,975 --> 01:14:00,018
[funky music playing]

1574
01:14:00,102 --> 01:14:03,480
[Pamela] But I thought
if I can attach it to animal activism,

1575
01:14:03,564 --> 01:14:06,900
or activism for the environment,
then it meant something.

1576
01:14:08,193 --> 01:14:10,195
So I joined forces with PETA.

1577
01:14:10,696 --> 01:14:13,949
[anchor] This McDonald's has had
meat-free burgers on its menu for a while,

1578
01:14:14,032 --> 01:14:15,232
so this is really nothing new.

1579
01:14:15,284 --> 01:14:17,911
But what <i>is</i> new is this huge PETA poster

1580
01:14:17,995 --> 01:14:20,914
of Pamela Anderson,
urging New Yorkers to veg out.

1581
01:14:21,498 --> 01:14:22,791
Well, activism is sexy.

1582
01:14:22,875 --> 01:14:24,936
You have to be brave,
and you gotta use what you got.

1583
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,838
How's your show doing, <i>VIP</i>?
You ever go over budget?

1584
01:14:27,921 --> 01:14:30,299
Yeah. Just not on my clothes
or anything like that.

1585
01:14:30,382 --> 01:14:33,051
[Jay] No, you save money on those.
Goes without saying, doesn't it?

1586
01:14:33,135 --> 01:14:34,636
[Pamela] I've learned how to deflect.

1587
01:14:35,512 --> 01:14:37,723
"Speaking of that, let's talk about..."

1588
01:14:37,806 --> 01:14:42,478
It's getting colder out, and people are,
um, tending to maybe put on fur coats.

1589
01:14:42,561 --> 01:14:46,482
I don't think anyone would wear something
they knew so much cruelty went into.

1590
01:14:47,399 --> 01:14:49,401
[anchor] In London,
Pamela used a book signing

1591
01:14:49,485 --> 01:14:51,612
to ask for signatures on a petition

1592
01:14:51,695 --> 01:14:56,200
to use fake fur on hats worn
by the Royal Guards at Buckingham Palace.

1593
01:14:56,283 --> 01:15:00,037
For each autograph Pamela signed,
she asked fans to return the favor

1594
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:01,872
by signing PETA's petition to the queen.

1595
01:15:02,831 --> 01:15:05,834
[Pamela] Comedy Central asked me
to do a roast and I said I'd do it

1596
01:15:05,918 --> 01:15:08,587
but only if they gave $250,000 to PETA.

1597
01:15:08,670 --> 01:15:11,173
We love you, Pam.
Thank you for inviting me to do this.

1598
01:15:11,256 --> 01:15:15,135
Uh, thank you for agreeing
to get fucked on camera one last time.

1599
01:15:15,219 --> 01:15:16,094
[audience laughing]

1600
01:15:16,178 --> 01:15:19,264
[Pamela] It was so raunchy.
It was so not my kind of humor.

1601
01:15:19,348 --> 01:15:22,643
The reason I went through this
was to benefit the PETA organization.

1602
01:15:22,726 --> 01:15:24,978
I wanna thank them
for all their incredible work.

1603
01:15:25,062 --> 01:15:27,648
But I still got to talk about things
that were important to me,

1604
01:15:27,731 --> 01:15:29,024
so it was kind of a trade-off.

1605
01:15:29,775 --> 01:15:31,985
Media is powerful, and it is a tool.

1606
01:15:32,069 --> 01:15:34,696
I was already getting teased
and made fun of.

1607
01:15:34,780 --> 01:15:37,783
I wanted to take that and use it for good.

1608
01:15:39,660 --> 01:15:43,330
[Piers] You made a surprising ally
in President Vladimir Putin.

1609
01:15:43,413 --> 01:15:48,293
Well, I wrote to him and asked him
to stop the importation of seal products

1610
01:15:48,377 --> 01:15:50,420
because this was 95% of the market

1611
01:15:50,504 --> 01:15:53,048
and that could potentially shut down
the Canadian seal hunt,

1612
01:15:53,131 --> 01:15:54,758
which is one of my big goals.

1613
01:15:54,841 --> 01:15:55,842
So he did.

1614
01:15:55,926 --> 01:15:59,429
He made it actually illegal to import
seal products even into the country.

1615
01:15:59,513 --> 01:16:00,639
- [Piers] Right.
- Yes.

1616
01:16:00,722 --> 01:16:03,600
- [audience laughs]
- Any relationship with North Korea?

1617
01:16:03,684 --> 01:16:04,685
- Kim Jong-un?
- No.

1618
01:16:04,768 --> 01:16:06,812
[audience laughing]

1619
01:16:06,895 --> 01:16:07,729
Not yet.

1620
01:16:07,813 --> 01:16:09,147
- [laughs]
- [audience applauding]

1621
01:16:09,231 --> 01:16:11,108
...a forward-thinking compassionate move.

1622
01:16:11,191 --> 01:16:13,944
I think that awareness
and education is the most...

1623
01:16:14,027 --> 01:16:16,905
[Brandon] She wants to always
use her voice for people

1624
01:16:16,989 --> 01:16:19,283
and animals that don't have a voice.

1625
01:16:19,366 --> 01:16:21,910
He's offered such an amazing
and generous offer...

1626
01:16:21,994 --> 01:16:25,122
And it's definitely brought her
into some controversial places.

1627
01:16:25,706 --> 01:16:29,084
[anchor] WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange
could face the death penalty

1628
01:16:29,167 --> 01:16:33,547
if tried and convicted for publishing
government secrets through WikiLeaks.

1629
01:16:34,047 --> 01:16:37,968
[Pamela] I met Julian Assange through
my very good friend, Vivian Westwood.

1630
01:16:38,051 --> 01:16:39,136
[camera shutters clicking]

1631
01:16:39,219 --> 01:16:41,638
[reporter] Hello, Ms. Anderson. How is he?

1632
01:16:41,722 --> 01:16:44,182
[Pamela] Every time I was in London,
we talked for four hours.

1633
01:16:44,266 --> 01:16:45,517
I'd say, "The Internet's bad,"

1634
01:16:45,601 --> 01:16:49,771
and he'd say, "No, it's good 'cause you
keep on learning everything you can."

1635
01:16:49,855 --> 01:16:52,065
"And then you can make
an informed decision."

1636
01:16:52,149 --> 01:16:56,194
Lying, to me, is the most damaging thing
people can do to people.

1637
01:16:56,778 --> 01:16:59,323
For me, it's just nice to know
that someone's whole life

1638
01:16:59,406 --> 01:17:01,617
is about truth and discovering truth.

1639
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:05,037
He just believes in justice,
believes in honesty,

1640
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:08,373
believes in, um, exposing governments
for what they're really doing,

1641
01:17:08,457 --> 01:17:09,817
and people have the right to know.

1642
01:17:10,542 --> 01:17:12,502
[Brandon] I think
she just doesn't have a problem

1643
01:17:12,586 --> 01:17:14,838
with getting in trouble for these things.

1644
01:17:15,839 --> 01:17:19,384
You know, and I'm always like,
"Please, don't do that."

1645
01:17:20,427 --> 01:17:23,388
We don't want
this kind of attention anymore.

1646
01:17:24,765 --> 01:17:26,725
No. Like, let's just have some peace.

1647
01:17:27,351 --> 01:17:29,436
- How's the family?
- Very good. The boys are great.

1648
01:17:29,519 --> 01:17:32,606
They've seen... have they seen pictures
of you? Like in <i>Playboy </i>and stuff?

1649
01:17:32,689 --> 01:17:33,857
- No!
- Oh.

1650
01:17:33,940 --> 01:17:34,940
[audience laughing]

1651
01:17:35,525 --> 01:17:37,694
[Pamela] I wasn't thinking
when I was in <i>Playboy</i>

1652
01:17:37,778 --> 01:17:39,821
that I was gonna have kids soon

1653
01:17:39,905 --> 01:17:42,741
and they were gonna grow up
and it was gonna be embarrassing for them.

1654
01:17:42,824 --> 01:17:45,661
But I always thought
I'll tell them, age-appropriate.

1655
01:17:45,744 --> 01:17:48,038
But I never got the chance.

1656
01:17:48,121 --> 01:17:51,124
You know, they always found out before
I could really talk to them about it.

1657
01:17:51,667 --> 01:17:52,667
Dilly.

1658
01:17:53,335 --> 01:17:54,335
Dylan.

1659
01:17:55,629 --> 01:17:58,799
But a tape of your parents
having sex is another level.

1660
01:18:00,884 --> 01:18:02,260
[Brandon] When I was a kid,

1661
01:18:02,344 --> 01:18:06,598
I thought everyone knew things
about me and my family

1662
01:18:06,682 --> 01:18:09,017
that they never should've known.

1663
01:18:09,101 --> 01:18:12,521
And, like, everyone had
this dirty little secret about my family.

1664
01:18:12,604 --> 01:18:14,022
[somber music playing]

1665
01:18:15,107 --> 01:18:18,318
[Brandon] I just remember in school,
like, if anyone ever brought up my mom,

1666
01:18:19,027 --> 01:18:21,196
I was very quick to fight.

1667
01:18:22,155 --> 01:18:24,408
I would just flush with anger.

1668
01:18:24,491 --> 01:18:26,326
Sidekick, bottom fist, chop.

1669
01:18:26,410 --> 01:18:27,244
[Pamela] Whoa.

1670
01:18:27,327 --> 01:18:29,579
I remember one day after school,

1671
01:18:29,663 --> 01:18:32,916
Dylan coming to me in tears saying,
"Mom, why did you do that tape?"

1672
01:18:32,999 --> 01:18:35,127
I was like, "Oh gosh, really?"

1673
01:18:35,836 --> 01:18:37,212
We didn't make a sex tape."

1674
01:18:37,754 --> 01:18:39,965
- How did that tape get out?
- It was stolen.

1675
01:18:40,048 --> 01:18:44,302
[anchor] Rumors began to circulate
that Pamela and Tommy planted the video

1676
01:18:44,386 --> 01:18:46,471
to bolster their own publicity.

1677
01:18:46,555 --> 01:18:50,308
[Pamela] People actually thought we put it
out there for some ridiculous reason,

1678
01:18:50,392 --> 01:18:52,394
'cause that became
kind of a trend afterward

1679
01:18:52,477 --> 01:18:55,564
for celebrities that were using a sex tape
to become famous.

1680
01:18:57,107 --> 01:18:59,693
So kind of left us in that category.

1681
01:19:01,403 --> 01:19:02,738
And still to this day,

1682
01:19:02,821 --> 01:19:05,532
people say that we made money off it,
which was never the case.

1683
01:19:05,615 --> 01:19:07,367
I never received a dime from that.

1684
01:19:08,201 --> 01:19:11,663
[director] Do you ever regret
not having monetized the stolen tape?

1685
01:19:11,747 --> 01:19:13,850
Oh God, never!
I would never monetize the stolen tape.

1686
01:19:13,874 --> 01:19:15,083
I don't regret that at all.

1687
01:19:15,167 --> 01:19:18,503
You could give me hundreds of millions,
a billion dollars, I'd never take it.

1688
01:19:18,587 --> 01:19:19,587
Never.

1689
01:19:19,921 --> 01:19:22,340
Come on, Brandon, focus now.

1690
01:19:22,424 --> 01:19:24,384
[Dylan] I think it would've been
a different story

1691
01:19:24,426 --> 01:19:26,303
if she did cash in on the tape.

1692
01:19:26,803 --> 01:19:28,013
It just shows you, right?

1693
01:19:28,096 --> 01:19:31,308
Like, that thing guaranteed
made people millions of dollars,

1694
01:19:31,391 --> 01:19:32,726
and she was like, "No."

1695
01:19:32,809 --> 01:19:37,272
She 100% cared about her family being okay
and me being okay.

1696
01:19:38,064 --> 01:19:39,357
Never cared about money.

1697
01:19:39,441 --> 01:19:40,484
[indistinct chatter]

1698
01:19:40,567 --> 01:19:41,693
I wish she made the money.

1699
01:19:41,777 --> 01:19:45,947
She would've made millions of dollars
if she just signed a piece of paper.

1700
01:19:46,490 --> 01:19:49,868
Instead, she sat back with nothing
and watched her career, like,

1701
01:19:50,786 --> 01:19:52,120
fizzle into thin air.

1702
01:19:54,790 --> 01:19:56,750
She was in debt most of her life.

1703
01:19:57,292 --> 01:19:59,972
Is it weird to feel like so many people
are making money off of you?

1704
01:20:00,003 --> 01:20:03,131
I mean, you... you had a number-one video.
You had lots of home videos.

1705
01:20:03,215 --> 01:20:05,008
You don't get a whole bunch of money from...

1706
01:20:05,091 --> 01:20:07,135
I never get anything from <i>Playboy.</i> Yeah.

1707
01:20:07,219 --> 01:20:08,899
[reporter] Never got money
from the videos?

1708
01:20:08,929 --> 01:20:10,055
No.

1709
01:20:10,138 --> 01:20:11,973
You're a very famous person,

1710
01:20:12,057 --> 01:20:15,185
and everybody would imagine
you'd have a lot of money.

1711
01:20:15,268 --> 01:20:17,771
Well, everyone... A lot of people
made a lot of money off me.

1712
01:20:17,854 --> 01:20:19,064
Yeah, that's true.

1713
01:20:19,147 --> 01:20:21,000
- [Howard] You're not good with money?
- I'm not.

1714
01:20:21,024 --> 01:20:22,651
[dramatic music playing]

1715
01:20:22,734 --> 01:20:26,238
[Pamela] My friend David LaChapelle says
I'm the least calculated person.

1716
01:20:26,988 --> 01:20:31,076
I just couldn't wrap my head around
the business part of branding myself.

1717
01:20:32,369 --> 01:20:34,496
I'm not that person
when it comes to money.

1718
01:20:34,579 --> 01:20:37,582
I just want my credit card to work
and I wanna be able to get my nails done.

1719
01:20:37,666 --> 01:20:39,960
But for years I was always scared.

1720
01:20:40,043 --> 01:20:42,671
Give you my credit card,
like, "Please, please, please work."

1721
01:20:44,339 --> 01:20:46,341
[Dylan] And I also think
it's just she's so giving.

1722
01:20:46,424 --> 01:20:49,678
She's always supported everyone,
grandparents, friends, and the family.

1723
01:20:49,761 --> 01:20:52,055
She's never worried about if she's okay.

1724
01:20:52,138 --> 01:20:54,516
She's always made sure
everyone else is okay.

1725
01:20:56,226 --> 01:20:58,854
- Tommy Lee, how is he?
- [Pamela] Great. We're like a family.

1726
01:20:58,937 --> 01:21:00,817
Like a little bit dysfunctional family,
I guess,

1727
01:21:00,897 --> 01:21:03,859
but, um, he loves his kids,
and we love each other and...

1728
01:21:03,942 --> 01:21:07,129
- [Larry] So why can't you be together?
- And, um, well, there's... Who knows why?

1729
01:21:07,153 --> 01:21:09,406
There's lots
of complicated reasons, right? [chuckles]

1730
01:21:09,489 --> 01:21:11,950
That was a very long 18 years

1731
01:21:12,784 --> 01:21:15,120
of co-parenting. [chuckling]

1732
01:21:15,203 --> 01:21:18,331
- [Tommy] Go to first base. First base!
- [Pamela] Good throw, Brandon!

1733
01:21:18,415 --> 01:21:19,958
It wasn't always easy.

1734
01:21:20,041 --> 01:21:20,876
Whoo!

1735
01:21:20,959 --> 01:21:24,963
And never has any partner of mine
liked Tommy.

1736
01:21:25,630 --> 01:21:27,257
It was always, like, a jealousy.

1737
01:21:27,340 --> 01:21:30,010
So it never really gave us
too much opportunity to be friends.

1738
01:21:31,261 --> 01:21:33,555
Hey Dilly, do wanna go behind the boat?

1739
01:21:33,638 --> 01:21:34,638
I wanna go in.

1740
01:21:34,681 --> 01:21:36,141
[Pamela] You just wanna go in there?

1741
01:21:36,224 --> 01:21:37,434
Let Bob help you.

1742
01:21:37,517 --> 01:21:40,357
- [Dylan] I know how to do it.
- [Bob] Let me help. I'll hold your hand.

1743
01:21:40,770 --> 01:21:41,897
[Dylan] I know how to.

1744
01:21:42,397 --> 01:21:43,231
I know how.

1745
01:21:43,315 --> 01:21:45,400
- Is this Detroit?
- Is it Detroit? This is Detroit.

1746
01:21:45,901 --> 01:21:47,581
This is when we moved to Detroit. [laughs]

1747
01:21:47,652 --> 01:21:49,821
We moved to Detroit
that point in our lives.

1748
01:21:49,905 --> 01:21:52,699
- [Pamela laughing] Ortonville.
- [Dylan] By the way.

1749
01:21:52,782 --> 01:21:54,618
- How long were we there for?
- Not long.

1750
01:21:54,701 --> 01:21:57,287
- [Dylan] Yeah, we... we left pretty quick.
- [laughing]

1751
01:21:57,370 --> 01:21:58,970
[director] When did you live in Detroit?

1752
01:21:58,997 --> 01:22:01,333
- I was married to Bob.
- When she was married to Kid Rock.

1753
01:22:01,416 --> 01:22:02,542
[Dylan chuckling]

1754
01:22:03,251 --> 01:22:04,920
[rock music playing]

1755
01:22:06,504 --> 01:22:09,257
[reporters clamoring]

1756
01:22:09,341 --> 01:22:10,884
[reporter] What is special about Kid?

1757
01:22:10,967 --> 01:22:12,135
You see that?

1758
01:22:12,218 --> 01:22:14,554
[Pamela] Look at this,
look at that, that's why.

1759
01:22:15,138 --> 01:22:16,473
That's it right there.

1760
01:22:17,182 --> 01:22:19,184
- Purely superficial, that's it.
- [laughs]

1761
01:22:19,976 --> 01:22:21,102
[inaudible]

1762
01:22:21,186 --> 01:22:23,813
- [Pamela] And I married Kid Rock.
- [crowd applauding]

1763
01:22:23,897 --> 01:22:25,148
His name is Bob Ritchie.

1764
01:22:26,107 --> 01:22:30,278
I take you, Kid Rock, to be my husband,
my constant friend,

1765
01:22:30,362 --> 01:22:32,989
my faithful partner, and my loving cowboy

1766
01:22:33,073 --> 01:22:35,659
that I'll ride forever
from this day forward.

1767
01:22:35,742 --> 01:22:37,744
[crowd exclaiming, cheering]

1768
01:22:42,415 --> 01:22:43,415
There's Bob.

1769
01:22:44,167 --> 01:22:45,585
Bob and I and a pineapple.

1770
01:22:47,629 --> 01:22:49,798
We had a great time, we had fun together.

1771
01:22:50,465 --> 01:22:52,050
He was really good to the boys.

1772
01:22:52,133 --> 01:22:53,677
[contemplative music playing]

1773
01:22:55,095 --> 01:22:57,639
[Pamela] But I didn't feel
like this is love

1774
01:22:57,722 --> 01:23:01,893
because I have an impression
of what love is, and this isn't it.

1775
01:23:02,978 --> 01:23:06,189
We just didn't have that height,
that frenzy I was used to.

1776
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:10,318
I didn't want anything less than that.

1777
01:23:11,778 --> 01:23:15,949
I mean, we know you as someone
who was married to Pamela Anderson.

1778
01:23:16,032 --> 01:23:17,659
The bottom line is, you know, I...

1779
01:23:18,159 --> 01:23:20,370
I... Yes, I... I touched the stove.

1780
01:23:21,204 --> 01:23:22,848
- The stove's very hot.
- [anchor laughing]

1781
01:23:22,872 --> 01:23:24,632
I think I'll not play
with the stove anymore.

1782
01:23:25,834 --> 01:23:29,587
After we got divorced, I started thinking,
"Maybe I should be married to a friend."

1783
01:23:30,797 --> 01:23:31,631
[host] Salomon calls.

1784
01:23:31,715 --> 01:23:32,882
What are you doing, kid?

1785
01:23:33,466 --> 01:23:36,136
[host] Rick Salomon, what are you doing?

1786
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:37,846
[Pamela] Rick Salomon.

1787
01:23:38,388 --> 01:23:40,598
He's a professional poker player.

1788
01:23:40,682 --> 01:23:43,101
- I'm all in.
- Salomon's all in, wow!

1789
01:23:43,184 --> 01:23:44,352
[uplifting music playing]

1790
01:23:44,436 --> 01:23:46,104
[Pamela] And then we got married.

1791
01:23:47,272 --> 01:23:49,274
And he ended up being a big drug addict.

1792
01:23:49,357 --> 01:23:50,567
[music distorts and fades]

1793
01:23:50,650 --> 01:23:52,736
We found a crack pipe
in the Christmas tree.

1794
01:23:54,154 --> 01:23:57,073
He still to this day denies it.
He says it's somebody else.

1795
01:23:57,949 --> 01:24:01,202
Who else would have a crack pipe
in the Christmas tree? Wasn't me.

1796
01:24:02,078 --> 01:24:04,164
[chuckling] It wasn't me.

1797
01:24:04,789 --> 01:24:06,666
So we were only married a few months.

1798
01:24:06,750 --> 01:24:09,586
It was annulled. But we're still friends.

1799
01:24:10,211 --> 01:24:13,423
Then, when he got sober
and was sober for years,

1800
01:24:14,924 --> 01:24:16,801
we decided to try it again.

1801
01:24:16,885 --> 01:24:18,887
[uplifting music playing]

1802
01:24:19,888 --> 01:24:21,389
It didn't last long either.

1803
01:24:21,473 --> 01:24:22,390
[music fades]

1804
01:24:22,474 --> 01:24:23,474
[Pamela scoffing]

1805
01:24:25,268 --> 01:24:27,437
[Dylan] She loves getting married,
you know?

1806
01:24:29,230 --> 01:24:31,816
Maybe it's her favorite thing in the world
is falling in love.

1807
01:24:31,900 --> 01:24:35,445
And then, like, I guess, loves the idea
of falling out of love too, I guess.

1808
01:24:37,822 --> 01:24:39,462
[Pamela] I felt guilty 'cause of my kids,

1809
01:24:39,491 --> 01:24:42,160
I wanted
to show them a traditional relationship,

1810
01:24:42,243 --> 01:24:44,996
or a marriage, or a man that's consistent,

1811
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:48,124
and giving them
good examples in their life.

1812
01:24:48,875 --> 01:24:52,712
Only person I looked at as a father figure
was my dad. And that was, like, it.

1813
01:24:52,796 --> 01:24:55,036
The other ones were just people
who came in and came out.

1814
01:24:55,090 --> 01:24:57,443
- [Pamela] Oh my goodness.
- I'm going to Daddy's house today.

1815
01:24:57,467 --> 01:24:58,635
[Pamela] Uh, tomorrow.

1816
01:24:58,718 --> 01:25:00,345
- It's been a while.
- [David] It has.

1817
01:25:00,428 --> 01:25:02,555
- How long ago was it?
- How many husbands ago was it?

1818
01:25:02,639 --> 01:25:04,182
- Exactly.
- [audience laughing]

1819
01:25:04,265 --> 01:25:07,769
I'd go to the Playboy mansion
and I'd see Smokey Robinson and he'd say...

1820
01:25:07,852 --> 01:25:09,452
I'd say, "Oh God. I got divorced again."

1821
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:12,065
He goes, "Baby, you're a romantic.
Keep on trying."

1822
01:25:12,148 --> 01:25:14,400
He goes, "You are my hero.
I love it. I love it."

1823
01:25:14,484 --> 01:25:17,524
"Just keep trying. Some people get bitter,
and you just keep going." [laughs]

1824
01:25:18,071 --> 01:25:19,864
[seagulls squawking]

1825
01:25:23,076 --> 01:25:26,329
[Pamela] When the kids graduated,
I wanted to go to the south of France,

1826
01:25:26,412 --> 01:25:27,664
and so I went, and...

1827
01:25:28,498 --> 01:25:30,083
I met a professional athlete.

1828
01:25:31,126 --> 01:25:32,544
He was very strong.

1829
01:25:33,419 --> 01:25:35,463
And he was very jealous.

1830
01:25:37,465 --> 01:25:42,011
[anchor] TV goddess Pamela Anderson
has just released this disturbing video.

1831
01:25:42,512 --> 01:25:46,474
A French soccer star allegedly crushed
her hands to the point of cracking.

1832
01:25:47,350 --> 01:25:49,390
[anchor 2] The soccer player denies
all allegations,

1833
01:25:49,435 --> 01:25:51,146
calling them completely false,

1834
01:25:51,229 --> 01:25:54,065
and said he was incapable
of doing such things.

1835
01:25:54,149 --> 01:25:56,151
[somber music playing]

1836
01:25:58,153 --> 01:25:59,993
[Pamela] Just because you're
in a relationship,

1837
01:26:00,029 --> 01:26:03,908
if there's any abuse, or emotional abuse
you don't have to stay in it.

1838
01:26:03,992 --> 01:26:06,119
Doesn't matter
if it's your fifth marriage.

1839
01:26:06,202 --> 01:26:07,871
Doesn't matter what people think.

1840
01:26:10,165 --> 01:26:14,836
I'm attracted to these
very hetero, masculine men.

1841
01:26:16,963 --> 01:26:20,967
Their initial attraction to me might be,
oh, she's the <i>Playboy</i> thing,

1842
01:26:21,050 --> 01:26:25,221
or this kind of sexual thing,
but I'm not the damsel in distress.

1843
01:26:25,305 --> 01:26:27,182
I am very capable,

1844
01:26:27,265 --> 01:26:30,393
and some men hate you
for being something else.

1845
01:26:30,476 --> 01:26:31,895
And then it can become violent.

1846
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:35,607
For me, because I could leave at any time,

1847
01:26:35,690 --> 01:26:38,985
I used to always say, "I don't need
to be with you. I want to be with you."

1848
01:26:39,068 --> 01:26:40,820
"And if I want to leave, I can."

1849
01:26:41,321 --> 01:26:44,949
And if I ever really stated those facts
it made people more insecure,

1850
01:26:45,033 --> 01:26:48,328
and sometimes they start grabbing you
by the hair and throwing you into walls,

1851
01:26:48,411 --> 01:26:50,330
and, like, stripping your clothes off.

1852
01:26:51,497 --> 01:26:53,166
Craziest stuff would happen.

1853
01:26:53,249 --> 01:26:57,879
It just touched some kind of weird part
of a man, in my relationships anyway.

1854
01:27:03,426 --> 01:27:05,553
- Are you guys getting married?
- Yeah.

1855
01:27:06,221 --> 01:27:08,181
- Again?
- We're gonna try again.

1856
01:27:08,264 --> 01:27:11,142
[Pamela] My parents, they fought a lot,
but they also made up.

1857
01:27:11,643 --> 01:27:14,562
My mom used to always say to me,
"I feel bad. I set an example for you."

1858
01:27:14,646 --> 01:27:16,522
"I know your dad's an asshole,
but I love him."

1859
01:27:16,606 --> 01:27:17,886
"You don't love these assholes."

1860
01:27:17,941 --> 01:27:20,193
"Rip the Band-Aid off
and just get rid of these guys

1861
01:27:20,276 --> 01:27:23,655
'cause you don't love them like
I love your father, or like he loves me."

1862
01:27:23,738 --> 01:27:28,743
'Cause I would pick people similar,
I guess, in some ways.

1863
01:27:30,453 --> 01:27:32,956
Maybe because of
how I grew up and saw my parents

1864
01:27:33,039 --> 01:27:35,750
and maybe because
of some of the relationships I had,

1865
01:27:35,833 --> 01:27:41,631
I didn't equate being in love
with being nice, maybe.

1866
01:27:41,714 --> 01:27:43,841
[objects clattering]

1867
01:27:45,260 --> 01:27:46,940
[Brandon] You know what's the funny thing?

1868
01:27:46,970 --> 01:27:52,642
I'm hardwired to just be, like, the most,
like, loving and insane person, ever.

1869
01:27:52,725 --> 01:27:54,852
You have to be insane to be in love. So...

1870
01:27:54,936 --> 01:27:57,188
Yeah, I know. You know what I say
to all my girlfriends?

1871
01:27:57,272 --> 01:27:59,983
I go, "My mom tells me
to be fearless to be in love."

1872
01:28:00,066 --> 01:28:02,527
They're like, "What the fuck
does that even mean?" [laughs]

1873
01:28:02,610 --> 01:28:03,444
[both laughing]

1874
01:28:03,528 --> 01:28:05,947
- Means you gotta be brave to be in love.
- Yeah.

1875
01:28:11,661 --> 01:28:12,912
[R&B song playing]

1876
01:28:12,996 --> 01:28:14,956
- [Pamela] As I record this...
- [gasping]

1877
01:28:15,957 --> 01:28:18,209
[Pamela] ...before the madness starts,

1878
01:28:18,293 --> 01:28:19,836
happy birthday, lover.

1879
01:28:21,129 --> 01:28:24,549
Balloons, a thousand balloons for my baby.

1880
01:28:24,632 --> 01:28:26,384
A thousand purple balloons.

1881
01:28:27,093 --> 01:28:29,804
<i>You have no idea what's going on.</i>

1882
01:28:29,887 --> 01:28:31,764
- [Tommy] Hey, baby.
- [Pamela] Look up.

1883
01:28:32,348 --> 01:28:34,058
[Tommy] Oh my God.

1884
01:28:35,059 --> 01:28:36,059
<i>Baby?</i>

1885
01:28:37,186 --> 01:28:39,105
<i>This is fucking incredible.</i>

1886
01:28:39,188 --> 01:28:41,107
<i>That's your first present right there.</i>

1887
01:28:41,607 --> 01:28:42,900
<i>Happy birthday.</i>

1888
01:28:44,027 --> 01:28:45,627
- [Pamela giggling]
- [Tommy] I love you.

1889
01:28:45,653 --> 01:28:47,030
[Pamela] <i>I love you, baby.</i>

1890
01:28:47,905 --> 01:28:48,740
To us.

1891
01:28:48,823 --> 01:28:50,408
[song continues]

1892
01:28:57,915 --> 01:28:58,750
Whoo!

1893
01:28:58,833 --> 01:28:59,917
[Pamela exclaiming]

1894
01:29:00,710 --> 01:29:02,086
[breath shuddering]

1895
01:29:03,421 --> 01:29:05,461
[Pamela] I think I need a break.
Let's take a break.

1896
01:29:07,383 --> 01:29:09,552
- I can fear what's next.
- [exhales]

1897
01:29:09,635 --> 01:29:11,596
So crazy. You know?

1898
01:29:12,388 --> 01:29:15,600
My parents were, actually,
probably the two most insane people

1899
01:29:15,683 --> 01:29:17,393
ever to live on planet Earth.

1900
01:29:17,935 --> 01:29:19,645
[Pamela] <i>It's snowing!</i>

1901
01:29:20,188 --> 01:29:21,481
It's snowing!

1902
01:29:22,065 --> 01:29:24,192
[Brandon] I just know he was so happy too.

1903
01:29:24,692 --> 01:29:25,692
[Pamela screaming]

1904
01:29:26,235 --> 01:29:28,780
[Brandon] But I don't even remember that.

1905
01:29:28,863 --> 01:29:31,991
You know, like, 'cause by the time
I was three, four-years-old,

1906
01:29:32,075 --> 01:29:33,795
by the time I'm starting
to remember things,

1907
01:29:33,826 --> 01:29:38,664
it definitely wasn't all,
um, sunshine and rainbows.

1908
01:29:38,748 --> 01:29:40,500
[somber music playing]

1909
01:29:44,879 --> 01:29:47,965
[Pamela] There's two Greek words for love,
like <i>eros</i> and <i>agape</i>.

1910
01:29:49,133 --> 01:29:53,262
<i>Eros</i> is more about passion
and sex and crazy.

1911
01:29:53,763 --> 01:29:57,850
<i>Agape</i>'s more commitment
and supportive and that kind of love,

1912
01:29:57,934 --> 01:30:01,646
and they're two different words,
where love is very conflicted.

1913
01:30:01,729 --> 01:30:03,064
[laughing] Hello!

1914
01:30:04,232 --> 01:30:07,985
Robert A. Johnson says,
"Romantic love is not sustainable."

1915
01:30:08,069 --> 01:30:12,073
As soon as I read that I was like, "Ugh.
This is the worst thing I've ever read."

1916
01:30:12,990 --> 01:30:14,242
It's so disappointing.

1917
01:30:14,325 --> 01:30:16,494
Why can't we live
a romantic life every day?

1918
01:30:20,957 --> 01:30:22,117
- [Tommy] Whoa.
- Gimme, baby.

1919
01:30:22,166 --> 01:30:23,292
[Tommy] You look beautiful.

1920
01:30:23,376 --> 01:30:25,878
- Give it to me, I wanna do you.
- [Tommy] No.

1921
01:30:25,962 --> 01:30:27,171
Wait, wait. Don't move.

1922
01:30:27,964 --> 01:30:29,841
[Pamela] Let me do you. Please?

1923
01:30:33,761 --> 01:30:36,361
I was just thinking about it upstairs.
I was thinking, you know...

1924
01:30:36,722 --> 01:30:38,951
It's probably gonna get me a lot of shit
for saying this,

1925
01:30:38,975 --> 01:30:41,853
but I really loved your dad,
like, for all the right reasons

1926
01:30:41,936 --> 01:30:43,896
and I don't think
I've ever loved anybody else.

1927
01:30:43,980 --> 01:30:45,314
[Tommy] <i>What up, gorgeous?</i>

1928
01:30:49,277 --> 01:30:52,071
<i>- What?</i>
- [Pamela] <i>Would that be awesome, or what?</i>

1929
01:30:52,655 --> 01:30:54,407
[Tommy] <i>What is the deal with that?</i>

1930
01:30:55,658 --> 01:30:57,535
It's fucked. [chuckling]

1931
01:30:59,287 --> 01:31:00,496
Let's go for a walk.

1932
01:31:01,581 --> 01:31:03,374
[Tommy] <i>Your fucking famous boobs.</i>

1933
01:31:04,375 --> 01:31:05,751
<i>I'm crazy for you.</i>

1934
01:31:06,794 --> 01:31:08,838
- [Pamela] <i>I love you.</i>
- [Tommy] <i>I love you.</i>

1935
01:31:08,921 --> 01:31:10,721
- [Pamela] <i>That's hot.</i>
- [Tommy] <i>Gimme a kiss?</i>

1936
01:31:12,717 --> 01:31:14,010
[dog barking]

1937
01:31:15,845 --> 01:31:17,847
[thunder rumbling]

1938
01:31:17,930 --> 01:31:19,932
[rain pattering]

1939
01:31:30,568 --> 01:31:33,863
[Pamela] Hey, I'm just gonna ramble.
I'm in my bathtub.

1940
01:31:37,116 --> 01:31:39,827
I think what it all comes down to is that

1941
01:31:39,911 --> 01:31:45,875
I never got over not being able to
make it work with the father of my kids.

1942
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:51,547
And even though I thought I could

1943
01:31:52,048 --> 01:31:55,843
recreate a family,
or fall in love with somebody else,

1944
01:31:56,344 --> 01:31:57,595
it's just not me.

1945
01:32:00,723 --> 01:32:05,394
So I think that's probably why
I keep failing in all my relationships.

1946
01:32:06,395 --> 01:32:10,483
And my parents, I think,
were wild and crazy,

1947
01:32:10,566 --> 01:32:13,277
and madly in love,
and made stupid decisions,

1948
01:32:13,361 --> 01:32:15,404
and hurt each other and hurt us.

1949
01:32:16,447 --> 01:32:20,826
But they stuck it out and stayed together,
and I can see that they're happy now.

1950
01:32:21,536 --> 01:32:24,413
So I think I'd rather be alone

1951
01:32:25,289 --> 01:32:27,625
than not be with the father of my kids.

1952
01:32:29,001 --> 01:32:32,296
It's impossible to be with anybody else.

1953
01:32:34,340 --> 01:32:37,051
But I don't think
I could be with Tommy either.

1954
01:32:38,511 --> 01:32:40,054
It's almost like a punishment.

1955
01:32:45,393 --> 01:32:47,395
- [insects chittering]
- [birds chirping]

1956
01:32:52,567 --> 01:32:55,444
[Brandon] Here she is
after another divorce,

1957
01:32:55,945 --> 01:32:57,613
trying to move on with her life.

1958
01:32:58,990 --> 01:33:00,950
Trying to have some sort of normalcy.

1959
01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:03,995
But then...

1960
01:33:04,078 --> 01:33:05,788
[ship horn blowing]

1961
01:33:06,330 --> 01:33:10,459
We have recently come into possession
of a piece of material.

1962
01:33:11,794 --> 01:33:16,799
We hear about a TV show coming out about
my parents and about the stolen tape.

1963
01:33:17,383 --> 01:33:21,345
New Hulu miniseries <i>Pam and Tommy</i>
that so many people are talking about.

1964
01:33:21,429 --> 01:33:24,890
True story of the former couples'
leaked sex tape.

1965
01:33:24,974 --> 01:33:28,394
You can see it all in the new
limited series <i>Pam and Tommy.</i>

1966
01:33:29,895 --> 01:33:31,775
[Dylan] Why bring up something
from 20 years ago

1967
01:33:31,814 --> 01:33:33,774
that you know fucked someone up?

1968
01:33:33,858 --> 01:33:37,528
The worst part of her life and making
a semi-comedy out of it didn't make sense.

1969
01:33:39,155 --> 01:33:41,157
[Pamela] It really gives me nightmares.

1970
01:33:41,782 --> 01:33:43,492
I didn't sleep last night at all.

1971
01:33:44,410 --> 01:33:46,454
I have no desire to watch it.
Not gonna watch it.

1972
01:33:46,537 --> 01:33:48,623
Never watched the tape,
I'm not gonna watch this.

1973
01:33:49,415 --> 01:33:50,975
Who knows how they're gonna portray it?

1974
01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:53,961
Nobody really knows
what we were going through at that time.

1975
01:33:54,795 --> 01:33:56,505
They should've had to have my permission.

1976
01:33:56,589 --> 01:33:58,299
Are you surprised it's being told now?

1977
01:33:58,883 --> 01:34:00,343
I mean, it's cool, I got...

1978
01:34:00,426 --> 01:34:02,136
Nah, I'm stoked, that's cool.

1979
01:34:02,678 --> 01:34:05,574
I texted Tommy the other day and said,
"How do you feel about everything?"

1980
01:34:05,598 --> 01:34:07,478
And he goes,
"Pamela, just don't let it hurt you

1981
01:34:07,516 --> 01:34:08,893
as much as it did the first time."

1982
01:34:10,227 --> 01:34:12,104
- [birds chirping]
- [dog barking]

1983
01:34:12,813 --> 01:34:15,274
[Pamela] To this day,
I do not know who stole the tape.

1984
01:34:16,275 --> 01:34:17,443
I don't wanna figure it out.

1985
01:34:17,526 --> 01:34:20,196
There's no use figuring out
anything about it.

1986
01:34:21,614 --> 01:34:22,740
The damage is done.

1987
01:34:24,325 --> 01:34:25,951
Why would I wanna go through that again?

1988
01:34:27,745 --> 01:34:29,372
I know the storm is coming.

1989
01:34:30,498 --> 01:34:33,042
I really don't know
where I'm gonna go next, I feel restless.

1990
01:34:34,627 --> 01:34:38,005
[woman] <i>How our wanting to love,
our yearning for love,</i>

1991
01:34:38,089 --> 01:34:41,300
<i>our loving itself, becomes an addiction.</i>

1992
01:34:42,593 --> 01:34:47,640
[Pamela] I was taking a month just to
kind of regroup after my divorce here.

1993
01:34:47,723 --> 01:34:51,519
[woman] <i>...severity of our problem
before we can begin to recover from it.</i>

1994
01:34:51,602 --> 01:34:55,022
<i>We who love obsessively are full of fear.</i>

1995
01:34:55,106 --> 01:34:56,565
<i>Fear of being alone.</i>

1996
01:34:59,193 --> 01:35:00,713
[Pamela] I called Brandon and he said,

1997
01:35:00,778 --> 01:35:04,573
"I thought you said you retired and wanna
build houses on your property in Canada."

1998
01:35:04,657 --> 01:35:07,326
And I was like, "I think I need
a little more than that."

1999
01:35:07,410 --> 01:35:09,078
I'm starting to get a little restless."

2000
01:35:10,579 --> 01:35:14,583
I'm a little bit stir-crazy and...
but I'm trying to calm down.

2001
01:35:14,667 --> 01:35:17,545
But maybe I'm not meant to be calmed down.

2002
01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:23,592
And, literally, just putting that
out there into the universe,

2003
01:35:24,093 --> 01:35:25,219
Broadway called.

2004
01:35:26,637 --> 01:35:27,637
Got it!

2005
01:35:28,514 --> 01:35:29,514
[gasping]

2006
01:35:30,558 --> 01:35:33,144
It's the real deal. They sent me
the script, so it must be real.

2007
01:35:33,227 --> 01:35:34,812
They really want me to do this.

2008
01:35:35,563 --> 01:35:38,899
Ugh. If I can only see it.
Oh my God, is that cool or what?

2009
01:35:39,900 --> 01:35:40,900
Roxie!

2010
01:35:41,402 --> 01:35:42,570
I know. I'm so excited.

2011
01:35:42,653 --> 01:35:44,780
They said, "I want you in LA next week."

2012
01:35:44,864 --> 01:35:47,867
"Two weeks of rehearsal,
one month of rehearsal in New York,

2013
01:35:47,950 --> 01:35:51,120
two months on Broadway,
eight shows a week, we're doing this."

2014
01:35:51,203 --> 01:35:52,246
[Pamela chuckling]

2015
01:35:53,414 --> 01:35:56,059
- [man] I can take this one 'cause...
- [Pamela] The others will match.

2016
01:35:56,083 --> 01:35:57,083
[man] Yup.

2017
01:35:58,627 --> 01:35:59,712
[Pamela] Oh my God.

2018
01:36:00,629 --> 01:36:03,215
There we go.
I don't have to do the treadmill today.

2019
01:36:03,299 --> 01:36:04,800
This is just my shoes.

2020
01:36:04,884 --> 01:36:06,635
[chuckling] Mostly my shoes.

2021
01:36:06,719 --> 01:36:09,680
Um, we're not gonna get crazy,
we're doing classic.

2022
01:36:09,764 --> 01:36:12,183
Which one do you think is better? [laughs]

2023
01:36:12,266 --> 01:36:13,392
These are New York.

2024
01:36:14,268 --> 01:36:15,394
These are Broadway.

2025
01:36:15,478 --> 01:36:16,729
[Jonathan] Oh yeah, this is it!

2026
01:36:16,812 --> 01:36:19,332
I'm gonna have four months of just, like,
I'm gonna do Broadway,

2027
01:36:19,356 --> 01:36:21,108
I'm gonna wear whatever the hell I want,

2028
01:36:21,192 --> 01:36:23,402
and... and everyone can just suck it.

2029
01:36:23,486 --> 01:36:24,570
[Jonathan laughing]

2030
01:36:24,653 --> 01:36:25,863
I'm taking both.

2031
01:36:26,822 --> 01:36:29,533
I'm not a natural singer,
not a natural dancer.

2032
01:36:30,242 --> 01:36:32,828
I'm so afraid, but I like those moments
that come up and I go,

2033
01:36:32,912 --> 01:36:34,330
"Oh my gosh. Can I do this?"

2034
01:36:34,914 --> 01:36:36,957
When those moments happen, run with it.

2035
01:36:37,041 --> 01:36:39,335
Don't overthink it.
I don't overthink anything.

2036
01:36:39,418 --> 01:36:40,836
Thinking is overrated.

2037
01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:41,962
[Jonathan chuckling]

2038
01:36:42,046 --> 01:36:43,422
[Pamela] Oh, my veil!

2039
01:36:44,548 --> 01:36:45,758
My wedding veil.

2040
01:36:45,841 --> 01:36:46,967
Hmm, one of them.

2041
01:36:47,051 --> 01:36:48,302
[Jonathan] Which husband?

2042
01:36:48,385 --> 01:36:51,096
[Pamela] I don't know,
I may have used it for a couple.

2043
01:36:51,180 --> 01:36:52,348
I recycle.

2044
01:36:52,431 --> 01:36:54,099
[inspiring music playing]

2045
01:36:54,934 --> 01:36:57,686
- [Pamela] They're really expensive.
- [both laughing]

2046
01:36:59,230 --> 01:37:01,899
You know, it's okay
to start something new in your fifties.

2047
01:37:02,525 --> 01:37:04,360
Can't believe I even said that word.

2048
01:37:07,154 --> 01:37:08,447
[music fades]

2049
01:37:08,531 --> 01:37:11,826
[Pamela] And the only thing
that can ruin this, as we all know,

2050
01:37:12,493 --> 01:37:13,619
don't meet any men.

2051
01:37:14,328 --> 01:37:15,329
Just focus.

2052
01:37:17,456 --> 01:37:21,168
You know what? For once in my life,
just be in love with myself.

2053
01:37:21,752 --> 01:37:24,338
[chuckling]
Have a love affair with myself.

2054
01:37:27,883 --> 01:37:30,219
Wake me up when
there's a veggie burger in front of me.

2055
01:37:30,302 --> 01:37:31,345
[both laughing]

2056
01:37:39,478 --> 01:37:41,814
[Gregory]
Even for musical theater performers,

2057
01:37:42,648 --> 01:37:44,066
it's a tight schedule.

2058
01:37:44,149 --> 01:37:45,860
It's tight, I'm not gonna lie.

2059
01:37:46,527 --> 01:37:50,781
It's like jumping on the express train
when you thought it was local,

2060
01:37:50,865 --> 01:37:53,075
and you're like,
"Oh shit, I'm missing my stop."

2061
01:37:53,158 --> 01:37:54,869
You know, it's like that all day.

2062
01:37:56,328 --> 01:37:59,498
No move in this show is without intention.

2063
01:37:59,582 --> 01:38:05,129
And this is why Annie always
looked for and hired actors first.

2064
01:38:05,212 --> 01:38:07,464
- Then dancers and singers.
- Actors first. Right.

2065
01:38:08,173 --> 01:38:09,008
[chuckling]

2066
01:38:09,091 --> 01:38:11,176
Look, the little gay boy in me was like,

2067
01:38:11,260 --> 01:38:14,054
"Oh my God!
Pamela Anderson, yes!" [laughing]

2068
01:38:14,722 --> 01:38:18,726
I probably, somewhere, in my lifetime,
have tried to be Pamela Anderson.

2069
01:38:18,809 --> 01:38:20,436
[Gregory humming rhythmically]

2070
01:38:20,519 --> 01:38:21,604
Boom! There we go.

2071
01:38:22,187 --> 01:38:25,858
I wanna do one more thing,
which is the Mess Around, all right?

2072
01:38:25,941 --> 01:38:30,654
So it's just rotating the hips around.

2073
01:38:31,447 --> 01:38:32,448
Oh, well.

2074
01:38:32,531 --> 01:38:33,657
Shit, you got that.

2075
01:38:33,741 --> 01:38:35,200
[Gregory laughing]

2076
01:38:35,284 --> 01:38:36,994
I've been messing around a long time.

2077
01:38:37,077 --> 01:38:38,203
[both laughing]

2078
01:38:39,079 --> 01:38:42,458
[Pamela] I feel like it's probably
the first time I'm really doing something

2079
01:38:42,541 --> 01:38:44,293
for no other reason than just for myself.

2080
01:38:45,294 --> 01:38:47,463
I could think,
"It's great for the kids if I do this."

2081
01:38:47,546 --> 01:38:49,924
And I go,
"No, I'm doing this for me, actually."

2082
01:38:50,549 --> 01:38:51,383
- Yes.
- [sighs]

2083
01:38:51,467 --> 01:38:53,844
So this isn't a hot flash,
this is actually work?

2084
01:38:53,928 --> 01:38:55,763
[Pamela laughing]

2085
01:38:57,806 --> 01:38:59,808
[cell phone ringing]

2086
01:39:02,061 --> 01:39:03,061
[Pamela] Babe.

2087
01:39:03,103 --> 01:39:04,414
- <i>Hello.</i>
- [Pamela] Hi, sweetheart.

2088
01:39:04,438 --> 01:39:07,232
[Brandon] <i>You know the show?
I watched the first three episodes.</i>

2089
01:39:07,316 --> 01:39:10,235
How'd you watch the first three episodes?
Three episodes were last night?

2090
01:39:10,319 --> 01:39:11,919
[Brandon] <i>Yeah, here's the thing, right?</i>

2091
01:39:11,987 --> 01:39:13,867
<i>It's like, you know the guy
that stole the tape?</i>

2092
01:39:13,948 --> 01:39:16,992
<i>They try to, like, give him reasons
for stealing this shit</i>

2093
01:39:17,076 --> 01:39:19,703
<i>because Dad was an asshole
and didn't pay him.</i>

2094
01:39:19,787 --> 01:39:20,913
Did Dylan watch it?

2095
01:39:21,455 --> 01:39:23,040
[Brandon] <i>Uh, I told Dylan not to.</i>

2096
01:39:23,123 --> 01:39:23,958
[inhales deeply]

2097
01:39:24,041 --> 01:39:25,041
Yeah. [sighing]

2098
01:39:25,084 --> 01:39:26,627
Oh God, I just...

2099
01:39:27,169 --> 01:39:28,253
I'm like shaking.

2100
01:39:28,337 --> 01:39:31,507
This feels really weird. I'm just sorry
that you guys had to go through it.

2101
01:39:31,590 --> 01:39:35,344
That people think, "Oh, poor Pamela,"
or it's poor you, Dylan,

2102
01:39:35,427 --> 01:39:37,721
Dad, you know, Grandma and Grandpa.

2103
01:39:37,805 --> 01:39:40,641
Okay. Well, thanks
for keeping me updated, but just...

2104
01:39:41,141 --> 01:39:43,686
If this... [exhales]
Yeah, this is a big conversation.

2105
01:39:44,269 --> 01:39:46,647
- I love you, baby.
- [Brandon] <i>Yeah. I love you.</i>

2106
01:39:46,730 --> 01:39:47,982
Oh God.

2107
01:39:48,816 --> 01:39:50,067
[Pamela sighing heavily]

2108
01:39:50,150 --> 01:39:51,150
Ugh, yeah.

2109
01:39:51,652 --> 01:39:53,445
Yeah, I didn't know that.

2110
01:39:53,529 --> 01:39:54,613
[gasps]

2111
01:39:54,697 --> 01:39:55,697
Oh, well.

2112
01:39:56,573 --> 01:39:58,951
This is called an emotional eat.

2113
01:39:59,034 --> 01:40:00,786
I'm emotionally eating now.

2114
01:40:00,869 --> 01:40:01,869
This is vegan.

2115
01:40:03,497 --> 01:40:04,915
Oh my God. This is so good.

2116
01:40:05,499 --> 01:40:08,627
If there was ever a moment
I could eat a croissant, it's now.

2117
01:40:11,338 --> 01:40:15,092
I blocked that out of my life.
I had to, in order to survive, really.

2118
01:40:15,175 --> 01:40:16,552
It was a survival mechanism,

2119
01:40:16,635 --> 01:40:19,054
and now that it's all coming up again,
I feel sick.

2120
01:40:19,138 --> 01:40:20,240
From my... my whole stomach,

2121
01:40:20,264 --> 01:40:22,391
from the middle of my chest
all the way down to...

2122
01:40:22,474 --> 01:40:25,269
Just my stomach feels right now
like it's just been punched.

2123
01:40:25,352 --> 01:40:26,812
I don't feel good right now.

2124
01:40:27,521 --> 01:40:29,523
[wind whooshing]

2125
01:40:33,152 --> 01:40:35,070
This feels like when the tape was stolen.

2126
01:40:37,322 --> 01:40:40,492
Basically, you're just a thing owned
by the world,

2127
01:40:40,576 --> 01:40:41,910
like you belong to the world.

2128
01:40:42,411 --> 01:40:43,787
I just feel like it's just...

2129
01:40:46,206 --> 01:40:47,499
Just ignore them.

2130
01:40:48,542 --> 01:40:49,542
Let it go.

2131
01:40:52,755 --> 01:40:56,425
"Now I got me a world full of yes."
Right? But what does that mean?

2132
01:40:56,508 --> 01:40:58,348
Pamela, what does that mean?
World full of yes.

2133
01:40:58,385 --> 01:41:00,447
Finally, I got a world full...
I'm gonna be respected.

2134
01:41:00,471 --> 01:41:03,974
I always think for me, it's like...
'cause I've been looking for that.

2135
01:41:04,058 --> 01:41:07,478
And again, she always
comes back to the word "me."

2136
01:41:07,561 --> 01:41:09,605
You know, Roxie's favorite word.

2137
01:41:10,272 --> 01:41:11,273
I don't think so.

2138
01:41:12,524 --> 01:41:14,777
Her dream isn't to be famous.

2139
01:41:14,860 --> 01:41:18,655
Her dream is to be respected,
to be seen, and to have freedom.

2140
01:41:19,323 --> 01:41:21,123
- So it's not just superficial.
- [Rob] Right.

2141
01:41:21,575 --> 01:41:22,576
[piano playing]

2142
01:41:22,659 --> 01:41:28,707
<i>♪ The lady raking in the chips
Is gonna be Roxie ♪</i>

2143
01:41:29,583 --> 01:41:35,589
<i>♪ Who says that murder's not an art? ♪</i>

2144
01:41:35,672 --> 01:41:36,673
[piano stops]

2145
01:41:37,216 --> 01:41:38,884
Some good stuff, Pamela.

2146
01:41:39,384 --> 01:41:40,511
How's it feeling?

2147
01:41:40,594 --> 01:41:42,012
Uh, it feels good. It feels good.

2148
01:41:42,096 --> 01:41:44,848
But it feels like I'm saying... [chuckling]

2149
01:41:44,932 --> 01:41:48,018
<i>♪ And who says that sex tapes
Aren't an art? ♪</i>

2150
01:41:48,102 --> 01:41:49,103
[all laughing]

2151
01:41:49,186 --> 01:41:51,897
<i>♪ And who says
That divorce is not an art? ♪</i>

2152
01:41:51,980 --> 01:41:53,107
[all laughing]

2153
01:41:53,190 --> 01:41:55,651
[sirens wailing]

2154
01:41:55,734 --> 01:41:56,610
[man] Welcome.

2155
01:41:56,693 --> 01:41:59,029
- [Pamela] Thanks. Oh my God.
- [man] Welcome to Broadway.

2156
01:41:59,571 --> 01:42:01,448
- Funny words. [chuckles]
- Awesome.

2157
01:42:01,532 --> 01:42:02,366
[all chuckling]

2158
01:42:02,449 --> 01:42:04,243
Are you sure? No. [laughs]

2159
01:42:04,326 --> 01:42:06,370
- My sweet...
- Yeah.

2160
01:42:06,453 --> 01:42:07,287
My sweet!

2161
01:42:07,371 --> 01:42:08,664
First freaking note.

2162
01:42:08,747 --> 01:42:10,874
So I think that's what it is.
I need to start low.

2163
01:42:10,958 --> 01:42:13,001
<i>♪ One thing I know ♪</i>

2164
01:42:13,085 --> 01:42:14,837
<i>♪ I've always known ♪</i>

2165
01:42:15,420 --> 01:42:17,506
<i>♪ I am my own ♪</i>

2166
01:42:17,589 --> 01:42:20,092
We both reached for the gun!

2167
01:42:20,592 --> 01:42:22,594
[yelling] But I got it first!

2168
01:42:22,678 --> 01:42:24,680
[cast cheering]

2169
01:42:24,763 --> 01:42:25,681
[Pamela exhales]

2170
01:42:25,764 --> 01:42:28,851
It's so good.
I know it's exactly setting my hips up.

2171
01:42:29,935 --> 01:42:31,145
Okay, that burns.

2172
01:42:31,228 --> 01:42:33,772
- [inspiring music playing]
- [Pamela humming]

2173
01:42:34,356 --> 01:42:36,356
[Pamela] I don't know how
I remembered any of this.

2174
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:38,837
I don't even know what happened.
I don't even know where I am.

2175
01:42:38,861 --> 01:42:40,404
- Who are you people?
- [Rob chuckling]

2176
01:42:40,487 --> 01:42:42,281
If this is a dream, I'll be pissed.

2177
01:42:42,364 --> 01:42:43,407
[Rob chuckling]

2178
01:42:43,490 --> 01:42:45,492
[music fades]

2179
01:42:48,996 --> 01:42:51,206
[seagulls squawking]

2180
01:42:51,832 --> 01:42:53,000
[children laughing]

2181
01:42:58,964 --> 01:43:01,133
I feel like I'm doing it with this person.

2182
01:43:01,216 --> 01:43:02,509
This is me on Broadway.

2183
01:43:03,135 --> 01:43:04,678
So I have kind of like me,

2184
01:43:05,804 --> 01:43:09,016
kind of before and after
a lot of the abuse in my life.

2185
01:43:10,017 --> 01:43:13,187
I'm really visualizing that.
That we're doing this together.

2186
01:43:13,270 --> 01:43:16,857
That's a cold-blooded murder, Mrs. Hart.
They're liable to hang you for that one.

2187
01:43:16,940 --> 01:43:18,317
[upbeat music playing]

2188
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:19,400
[Rob] Catch.

2189
01:43:21,612 --> 01:43:24,948
[Pamela] I've always gone to a certain
point and went, "That's good enough."

2190
01:43:25,032 --> 01:43:27,784
But this, I'm gonna have to go further
than I've ever gone.

2191
01:43:29,244 --> 01:43:31,806
There was a lot of times I said,
"I don't care what people think,"

2192
01:43:31,830 --> 01:43:32,998
'cause it's the only choice.

2193
01:43:33,081 --> 01:43:35,417
If I care what people think,
I wouldn't be here right now.

2194
01:43:35,500 --> 01:43:37,461
[Rob] Boom, boom, boom, right.

2195
01:43:37,544 --> 01:43:40,088
[Pamela] But I care enough.

2196
01:43:46,220 --> 01:43:47,804
[music fades]

2197
01:43:47,888 --> 01:43:50,098
We're pushing through this,
which is not a bad thing.

2198
01:43:50,182 --> 01:43:52,392
It's... it's...
it's causing you to fight for it.

2199
01:43:54,311 --> 01:43:57,231
Just do the very beginning,
while you're... while you're tired.

2200
01:43:57,814 --> 01:44:00,192
Just, um... [scatting]
Look, I'm going to the other side.

2201
01:44:00,275 --> 01:44:01,193
[Pamela groaning]

2202
01:44:01,276 --> 01:44:02,319
[Pamela] Okay.

2203
01:44:02,402 --> 01:44:08,158
<i>♪ Look at my baby and me! ♪</i>

2204
01:44:09,660 --> 01:44:11,662
[children shouting indistinctly]

2205
01:44:12,371 --> 01:44:16,708
I think it's nice because...
the expectations are so low.

2206
01:44:16,792 --> 01:44:18,627
[Pamela laughing]

2207
01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:21,213
[gentle music playing]

2208
01:44:21,296 --> 01:44:22,547
[Pamela] It's out of my hands.

2209
01:44:23,548 --> 01:44:26,508
- [Brandon] It's all in your hands.
- All in my hands, but not in my hands.

2210
01:44:27,552 --> 01:44:29,263
[Pamela humming]

2211
01:44:29,805 --> 01:44:31,682
[Pamela] At the risk
of complete humiliation,

2212
01:44:31,765 --> 01:44:35,936
I'm just gonna go for it.
I'm gonna absolutely go nuts!

2213
01:44:36,853 --> 01:44:38,581
- He's a little worried about me.
- [chuckles]

2214
01:44:38,605 --> 01:44:39,773
Don't worry, Brandon.

2215
01:44:39,856 --> 01:44:42,985
You know what? This is the thing.
It's gonna be an earthquake.

2216
01:44:43,902 --> 01:44:44,903
A volcano.

2217
01:44:44,987 --> 01:44:47,197
We just don't know
what's coming out of the volcano.

2218
01:44:47,281 --> 01:44:48,782
[laughing]

2219
01:44:49,491 --> 01:44:50,742
<i>♪ Something! ♪</i>

2220
01:44:52,494 --> 01:44:54,371
[Gregory] I feel it's unfair,

2221
01:44:54,454 --> 01:44:57,207
and it's the way of the world,
I'm not naive.

2222
01:44:59,001 --> 01:45:02,921
Where we hear something
about an actor doing a certain project

2223
01:45:03,005 --> 01:45:06,383
and we want to go,
"What gives them the right to do that?"

2224
01:45:06,466 --> 01:45:08,510
"They're not this, they're not that."

2225
01:45:10,262 --> 01:45:13,056
But you know what?
Pamela has had that her whole life.

2226
01:45:13,765 --> 01:45:15,559
That's what she's had to fight through,

2227
01:45:15,642 --> 01:45:20,605
and who are you
to try to take away her dream

2228
01:45:20,689 --> 01:45:24,484
because of your perception
of who she is and what her talent is?

2229
01:45:24,568 --> 01:45:27,612
[announcer] <i>Ladies and gentlemen,
please take your seats.</i>

2230
01:45:27,696 --> 01:45:30,324
Let people dream, let people grab stars.

2231
01:45:30,407 --> 01:45:31,325
Why not?

2232
01:45:31,408 --> 01:45:33,410
[crowd cheering]

2233
01:45:37,956 --> 01:45:39,958
[show music playing]

2234
01:45:44,379 --> 01:45:46,506
- You wanna know something?
- [crowd] Yeah.

2235
01:45:46,590 --> 01:45:48,717
I always wanted my name in the papers.

2236
01:45:49,509 --> 01:45:52,179
Roxie rocks Chicago!

2237
01:45:52,262 --> 01:45:53,555
[crowd cheering]

2238
01:45:53,638 --> 01:45:54,765
[Pamela screaming]

2239
01:45:54,848 --> 01:45:55,848
[band playing]

2240
01:45:55,891 --> 01:46:00,520
<i>♪ The name
On everybody's lips is gonna be ♪</i>

2241
01:46:00,604 --> 01:46:01,730
<i>♪ Roxie! ♪</i>

2242
01:46:01,813 --> 01:46:04,358
[inspirational music playing]

2243
01:46:04,441 --> 01:46:06,902
[inaudible]

2244
01:46:10,113 --> 01:46:14,326
[Brandon] "Pamela Anderson drives
Chicago crowd wild in her Broadway debut."

2245
01:46:14,409 --> 01:46:16,078
[crowd cheering]

2246
01:46:16,161 --> 01:46:18,288
[Brandon] "She has returned
to the spotlight for work,

2247
01:46:18,372 --> 01:46:20,874
bending the redemption
narrative arc her way."

2248
01:46:20,957 --> 01:46:23,418
It's me they wanna see, not you!

2249
01:46:24,628 --> 01:46:27,297
"Anderson sings her big solos just fine."

2250
01:46:27,381 --> 01:46:29,925
"She won't be headlining
Carnegie Hall in September,

2251
01:46:30,008 --> 01:46:31,843
but she acts the songs with vulnerability,

2252
01:46:31,927 --> 01:46:34,763
a hint of Marilyn Monroe flirting,
and hits all the notes."

2253
01:46:34,846 --> 01:46:37,557
<i>♪ Like some droopy-eyed pup ♪</i> [pops lips]

2254
01:46:38,141 --> 01:46:39,741
[Brandon] "Anderson is also very funny."

2255
01:46:39,768 --> 01:46:42,145
I can't go on,
I can't go on, I can't go on.

2256
01:46:42,229 --> 01:46:43,146
No, Roxie.

2257
01:46:43,230 --> 01:46:44,064
[crowd laughing]

2258
01:46:44,147 --> 01:46:46,584
[Brandon] "I can now attest
that the actress and <i>Baywatch </i>babe

2259
01:46:46,608 --> 01:46:48,693
moves confidently and carries a tune."

2260
01:46:48,777 --> 01:46:49,778
[crowd cheering]

2261
01:46:49,861 --> 01:46:52,030
[Brandon] "You know, all that jazz."

2262
01:46:52,114 --> 01:46:53,532
[cheering continues]

2263
01:46:54,241 --> 01:46:56,118
[Dylan] She's not scared of anything.

2264
01:46:56,201 --> 01:46:59,621
"I'm gonna go do something
that no one would ever think I would do,

2265
01:46:59,704 --> 01:47:00,872
and actually kill it."

2266
01:47:01,873 --> 01:47:03,708
It's crazy. She's pretty badass.

2267
01:47:04,709 --> 01:47:07,212
[Brandon] Now more than ever,
she's finally focused

2268
01:47:07,295 --> 01:47:09,840
on achieving what she wants to do,

2269
01:47:09,923 --> 01:47:12,050
and not worried
about pleasing anyone else.

2270
01:47:13,093 --> 01:47:15,512
Not worried about
what her boyfriend's gonna think,

2271
01:47:15,595 --> 01:47:17,472
if her husband's gonna get jealous.

2272
01:47:17,556 --> 01:47:19,141
[inspirational music continues]

2273
01:47:27,524 --> 01:47:29,276
[music fades]

2274
01:47:31,278 --> 01:47:34,990
<i>♪ It's good, isn't it? ♪</i>

2275
01:47:35,073 --> 01:47:37,325
<i>- ♪ Grand, isn't it? ♪</i>
- [show music playing]

2276
01:47:37,868 --> 01:47:40,162
<i>♪ Great, isn't it? ♪</i>

2277
01:47:40,245 --> 01:47:43,248
<i>♪ Swell, isn't it? ♪</i>

2278
01:47:43,331 --> 01:47:45,417
<i>♪ Fun, isn't it? ♪</i>

2279
01:47:46,585 --> 01:47:49,087
<i>♪ Nowadays ♪</i>

2280
01:47:53,383 --> 01:47:56,261
<i>♪ There's men, everywhere ♪</i>

2281
01:47:56,344 --> 01:47:58,972
<i>♪ Jazz, everywhere ♪</i>

2282
01:47:59,055 --> 01:48:01,391
<i>♪ Booze, everywhere ♪</i>

2283
01:48:01,475 --> 01:48:03,852
<i>♪ Life, everywhere ♪</i>

2284
01:48:03,935 --> 01:48:05,729
<i>♪ Joy, everywhere ♪</i>

2285
01:48:06,688 --> 01:48:07,939
<i>♪ Nowadays ♪</i>

2286
01:48:11,443 --> 01:48:15,489
<i>♪ You can like the life you're living ♪</i>

2287
01:48:16,072 --> 01:48:19,784
<i>♪ You can live the life you like ♪</i>

2288
01:48:20,535 --> 01:48:23,330
<i>♪ You can even marry... ♪</i>

2289
01:48:23,413 --> 01:48:24,915
I wanna embrace the past,

2290
01:48:25,457 --> 01:48:26,541
embrace the truth.

2291
01:48:27,417 --> 01:48:29,711
My life is not a woe-is-me story.

2292
01:48:29,794 --> 01:48:33,048
<i>♪ And that's good, isn't it? ♪</i>

2293
01:48:33,131 --> 01:48:35,300
<i>♪ Grand, isn't it? ♪</i>

2294
01:48:35,383 --> 01:48:37,761
<i>♪ Great, isn't it? ♪</i>

2295
01:48:37,844 --> 01:48:38,678
<i>♪ Swell? ♪</i>

2296
01:48:38,762 --> 01:48:40,263
[crowd cheering]

2297
01:48:40,347 --> 01:48:42,349
[show music crescendos]

2298
01:48:48,355 --> 01:48:49,189
[music fades]

2299
01:48:49,272 --> 01:48:50,398
I'm not a victim.

2300
01:48:50,482 --> 01:48:53,360
I put myself in crazy situations

2301
01:48:54,027 --> 01:48:56,655
and survived them.

2302
01:48:56,738 --> 01:48:58,740
[dramatic music playing]

2303
01:48:59,991 --> 01:49:02,661
[Pamela] As much pain
as we can endure in our lives

2304
01:49:02,744 --> 01:49:05,372
is kind of like the catalyst
to all the great stuff,

2305
01:49:05,455 --> 01:49:07,249
like poetry, music, art.

2306
01:49:09,417 --> 01:49:11,253
I'm grateful
for all the experiences I had,

2307
01:49:11,336 --> 01:49:13,338
and I don't blame anybody for anything.

2308
01:49:13,838 --> 01:49:14,923
I'm glad it happened.

2309
01:49:20,303 --> 01:49:22,931
[crowd cheering emphatically]

2310
01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:38,446
It does feel like, uh,
I've just been through a hurricane.

2311
01:49:41,658 --> 01:49:43,410
Feels kind of good. [giggling]

2312
01:49:48,164 --> 01:49:49,708
I'm sure I'm not finished.

2313
01:49:52,419 --> 01:49:54,796
But I have no idea what I'm gonna do next.

2314
01:49:54,879 --> 01:49:55,964
My kids are grown.

2315
01:49:57,132 --> 01:49:58,133
Um...

2316
01:49:58,216 --> 01:49:59,634
I'm basically alone.

2317
01:50:00,885 --> 01:50:01,885
And...

2318
01:50:05,807 --> 01:50:07,407
But I kind of like this moment right now

2319
01:50:07,475 --> 01:50:09,686
where I have no clue what's gonna happen,

2320
01:50:09,769 --> 01:50:12,731
and I know I, supposedly,
at this part of my life,

2321
01:50:12,814 --> 01:50:14,941
I should be settled in somewhere, but...

2322
01:50:17,819 --> 01:50:18,819
I don't know.

2323
01:50:22,073 --> 01:50:23,408
Maybe I'll know next week.

2324
01:50:23,908 --> 01:50:24,993
[chuckling]

2325
01:50:26,119 --> 01:50:28,121
[groovy music playing]

2326
01:50:31,166 --> 01:50:32,417
- [Pamela] Hi.
- [man] Hi.

2327
01:50:33,293 --> 01:50:34,961
[objects clattering]

2328
01:50:35,045 --> 01:50:38,173
I figured I'd just do,
like, no makeup, no whatever.

2329
01:50:38,256 --> 01:50:39,174
Who cares?

2330
01:50:39,257 --> 01:50:41,718
Pretty soon I'll be naked with just
a pillow in front of me.

2331
01:50:41,801 --> 01:50:43,595
- [all laughing]
- Bare, Pamela!

2332
01:50:43,678 --> 01:50:45,055
Pamela, bare!

2333
01:50:45,138 --> 01:50:45,972
Raw, bare!

2334
01:50:46,056 --> 01:50:48,183
What if I just do
all the interviews naked?

2335
01:50:49,059 --> 01:50:50,226
There's no mystery here.

2336
01:50:52,103 --> 01:50:53,772
Oh, I figured out something.

2337
01:50:53,855 --> 01:50:56,566
Over... If I wear these
over my sunglasses, they work.

2338
01:50:57,067 --> 01:50:58,067
And I was like...

2339
01:50:59,444 --> 01:51:00,987
Like this, and I was like...

2340
01:51:01,071 --> 01:51:02,530
[man laughing]

2341
01:51:02,614 --> 01:51:03,782
It totally works!

2342
01:51:06,076 --> 01:51:07,076
Hi, babes.

2343
01:51:07,494 --> 01:51:08,328
[Dylan] <i>Good morning.</i>

2344
01:51:08,411 --> 01:51:12,123
It works when you put your glasses over
your sunglasses. Can you believe that?

2345
01:51:12,207 --> 01:51:15,293
[Dylan] <i>You know you can get
prescription sunglasses, right?</i>

2346
01:51:15,377 --> 01:51:16,377
What?

2347
01:51:17,003 --> 01:51:19,130
You can get prescription sunglasses?

2348
01:51:19,214 --> 01:51:22,133
<i>Hey... Hey, you know it's 7:30
in the morning here?</i>

2349
01:51:22,217 --> 01:51:23,217
[Pamela] Get up!

2350
01:51:26,680 --> 01:51:29,099
The best way to get married
is to tell someone,

2351
01:51:29,182 --> 01:51:30,642
"I am never gonna marry you."

2352
01:51:30,725 --> 01:51:33,019
Within six months
you're married, for sure.

2353
01:51:33,103 --> 01:51:34,396
That's what you do, okay?

2354
01:51:34,479 --> 01:51:36,439
You have to mean it. You have to mean it.

2355
01:51:36,523 --> 01:51:38,942
Like, you'll never marry
that person, never.

2356
01:51:41,194 --> 01:51:42,195
Hi, Mom!

2357
01:51:42,278 --> 01:51:43,363
[Carol] <i>Oh hi, sweetheart.</i>

2358
01:51:43,988 --> 01:51:46,908
[Pamela] What, are you upside down again?
Oh, no. Here we go again.

2359
01:51:46,991 --> 01:51:50,245
I'm upside down. Oh Mom, don't do it.
Please don't do this. Don't do this.

2360
01:51:51,788 --> 01:51:53,415
Does every old person do this?

2361
01:51:56,167 --> 01:51:58,962
Ugh. I never want a husband again, ever.

2362
01:51:59,963 --> 01:52:01,965
That sucks too. [laughing]

2363
01:52:03,550 --> 01:52:06,177
[gentle music playing]

2364
01:52:26,281 --> 01:52:28,283
[music fades]