1 00:00:06,020 --> 00:00:10,226 [low droning music] 2 00:00:24,671 --> 00:00:26,704 [birds chirping] 3 00:00:38,355 --> 00:00:42,126 [ominous piano music] 4 00:00:57,935 --> 00:01:01,178 [static whirring] 5 00:01:02,577 --> 00:01:04,181 [beeping] 6 00:01:08,286 --> 00:01:10,352 [Alice] I think the house is alive. 7 00:01:11,916 --> 00:01:14,620 There's a consciousness here. 8 00:01:14,655 --> 00:01:16,721 You just know you're being watched. 9 00:01:17,658 --> 00:01:19,823 I started seeing light formations, 10 00:01:19,858 --> 00:01:22,298 bizarre light formations. 11 00:01:22,333 --> 00:01:24,300 It scared me so bad 12 00:01:24,335 --> 00:01:27,501 that when I close my eyes, I still see it. 13 00:01:29,439 --> 00:01:31,934 I can't stay here at night by myself. 14 00:01:31,969 --> 00:01:35,707 [eerie piano instrumental] 15 00:01:55,696 --> 00:02:00,732 ♪ 16 00:02:20,490 --> 00:02:25,493 ♪ 17 00:02:27,893 --> 00:02:29,024 [music ends abruptly] 18 00:02:29,059 --> 00:02:33,534 [ominous instrumental] 19 00:02:46,318 --> 00:02:48,010 My name is Alice Jackson. 20 00:02:48,045 --> 00:02:50,452 I've had this house-- I owned this house 21 00:02:50,487 --> 00:02:53,851 in Florence since 1990. 22 00:02:55,492 --> 00:02:57,294 In the last two years, 23 00:02:57,329 --> 00:02:59,989 there's been a lot of interest in the house. 24 00:03:00,024 --> 00:03:02,728 For one thing, it just makes it more comfortable a-- 25 00:03:02,763 --> 00:03:04,433 around my neighborhood. 26 00:03:04,468 --> 00:03:07,304 I mean, now everybody knows about the house 27 00:03:07,339 --> 00:03:09,933 and it's very well accepted. 28 00:03:09,968 --> 00:03:11,506 People are very supportive. 29 00:03:12,674 --> 00:03:14,641 They'll tell you their own stories about things. 30 00:03:14,676 --> 00:03:15,906 They understand your experience 31 00:03:15,941 --> 00:03:17,578 and it's very positive. 32 00:03:17,613 --> 00:03:19,448 It resonates with people because obviously 33 00:03:19,483 --> 00:03:21,813 it's a universal experience to some degree. 34 00:03:21,848 --> 00:03:23,947 I mean, it's throughout-- you know, throughout history , 35 00:03:23,982 --> 00:03:25,388 there's always been ghost stories, 36 00:03:25,423 --> 00:03:26,752 always been strange stories. 37 00:03:26,787 --> 00:03:28,886 People can relate to the experience. 38 00:03:32,463 --> 00:03:34,089 I love my house. 39 00:03:34,124 --> 00:03:36,366 It feels peaceful in the daytime. 40 00:03:36,401 --> 00:03:37,697 I like to come in and read a book. 41 00:03:37,732 --> 00:03:39,534 I like to have my friends over. 42 00:03:41,637 --> 00:03:44,506 But it's just different at night. 43 00:03:44,541 --> 00:03:46,475 I mean, it really is just different. 44 00:03:46,510 --> 00:03:49,841 [eerie instrumental] 45 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:57,651 [clacks] 46 00:03:59,589 --> 00:04:01,556 [Steve] I think a lot of people who 47 00:04:01,591 --> 00:04:03,393 think somebody deals with a haunted house, 48 00:04:03,428 --> 00:04:04,823 especially nowadays, 49 00:04:04,858 --> 00:04:06,660 they think it's kind of cool, you know? 50 00:04:06,695 --> 00:04:09,564 They're kind of like, "It's awesome." You know? 51 00:04:09,599 --> 00:04:11,027 "Everybody wants a haunted house." 52 00:04:11,062 --> 00:04:12,567 But when you live in one, 53 00:04:12,602 --> 00:04:15,372 it's not quite that way, you know? 54 00:04:15,407 --> 00:04:18,507 So, there must have been a bit of a path of emotions 55 00:04:18,542 --> 00:04:20,575 that have happened over the years. 56 00:04:20,610 --> 00:04:23,908 For-- for 20 years we had things moving, 57 00:04:23,943 --> 00:04:25,844 ghost activity, doors opening. 58 00:04:25,879 --> 00:04:27,483 And I accepted that. 59 00:04:27,518 --> 00:04:31,146 ♪ 60 00:04:31,181 --> 00:04:32,983 [thudding] 61 00:04:33,018 --> 00:04:38,428 ♪ 62 00:04:43,193 --> 00:04:44,632 [woman 1] Okay, one more time. 63 00:04:44,667 --> 00:04:46,161 Loud enough for everybody to hear. 64 00:04:46,196 --> 00:04:48,504 Can you please whistle one more time? 65 00:04:50,937 --> 00:04:53,575 [eerie whistle] 66 00:04:53,610 --> 00:04:55,907 -[man 1] That's upstairs. -[woman 2] Yup. You hear that? 67 00:04:59,814 --> 00:05:01,550 [man 2] It hasn't happen again, though. 68 00:05:01,585 --> 00:05:02,848 -[man 1] Ask again, can you... 69 00:05:02,883 --> 00:05:04,916 [woman] Can you whistle one more time? 70 00:05:04,951 --> 00:05:06,489 Loud. 71 00:05:07,888 --> 00:05:09,888 [eerie whistle] 72 00:05:09,923 --> 00:05:11,461 [indistinct speaking] 73 00:05:11,496 --> 00:05:12,990 [man 1] That's bullshit. That's upstairs. 74 00:05:13,025 --> 00:05:14,761 -[woman 1] It's in that, um-- -[woman 2] It's only at... 75 00:05:14,796 --> 00:05:17,027 [woman 1] It's in that room, um-- 76 00:05:17,062 --> 00:05:18,633 It's in the crawlspace. 77 00:05:19,537 --> 00:05:21,900 Can you whistle one more time for me? 78 00:05:21,935 --> 00:05:24,837 [silence] 79 00:05:29,679 --> 00:05:30,876 [woman 1] Come on, [indistinct]. 80 00:05:30,911 --> 00:05:32,009 One more time, loud. 81 00:05:32,044 --> 00:05:34,484 [eerie instrumental] 82 00:05:34,519 --> 00:05:36,046 [ball thudding] 83 00:05:36,081 --> 00:05:38,917 [people exclaim] 84 00:05:38,952 --> 00:05:40,116 [woman] Oh, my God! 85 00:05:40,151 --> 00:05:43,559 In the last, uh, 11 years, 12 years, 86 00:05:43,594 --> 00:05:46,628 uh, I started seeing light formations, 87 00:05:46,663 --> 00:05:48,157 bizarre light formation. 88 00:05:48,192 --> 00:05:53,162 ♪ 89 00:05:53,197 --> 00:05:55,131 I remember that one primary time that th-- 90 00:05:55,166 --> 00:05:56,539 I just said, "That's it." 91 00:05:56,574 --> 00:05:58,541 And that was, uh, an area of, um, 92 00:05:58,576 --> 00:06:01,137 a cylinder of daylight in a pitch black room, 93 00:06:01,172 --> 00:06:02,908 light that didn't diffuse, that was it. 94 00:06:02,943 --> 00:06:05,482 I didn't know if it was just a fluke 95 00:06:05,517 --> 00:06:06,978 that it happened when I was in that room 96 00:06:07,013 --> 00:06:09,717 or if it happened because I was in that room. 97 00:06:09,752 --> 00:06:11,620 So uh-- 98 00:06:11,655 --> 00:06:13,919 And then also I did at the same time 99 00:06:13,954 --> 00:06:16,988 have a strong feeling that I was being observed. 100 00:06:17,023 --> 00:06:19,661 So, I didn't know if there was a conscious presence 101 00:06:19,696 --> 00:06:22,158 observing that room for some reason 102 00:06:22,193 --> 00:06:24,094 or if, uh, I was the target. 103 00:06:24,129 --> 00:06:29,539 ♪ 104 00:06:30,740 --> 00:06:32,674 It happened because I was in that room. 105 00:06:32,709 --> 00:06:36,645 -So, uh-- And then also I did-- -[disembodied voice] 106 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:41,551 ♪ 107 00:06:51,563 --> 00:06:52,859 [John] Alice's house, 108 00:06:52,894 --> 00:06:55,829 I do feel like it's still learning to communicate. 109 00:06:57,030 --> 00:07:00,130 I still feel like we are teaching the spirits 110 00:07:00,165 --> 00:07:01,835 in a-- in a weird way. 111 00:07:03,707 --> 00:07:06,510 Do I think the house is still learning? 112 00:07:07,106 --> 00:07:09,007 It-- it appears to be 113 00:07:09,042 --> 00:07:11,174 responding to our requests. 114 00:07:11,748 --> 00:07:14,144 [John] So, we have a baseball, 115 00:07:14,179 --> 00:07:15,684 I believe, we have on the stairs-- 116 00:07:15,719 --> 00:07:17,279 I'm gonna put our sweet little doll 117 00:07:17,314 --> 00:07:18,786 here on the stairs. 118 00:07:20,889 --> 00:07:23,956 We put a doll in a blue dress on the stairwell. 119 00:07:27,192 --> 00:07:29,797 We focus solely on this object. 120 00:07:30,327 --> 00:07:32,767 [patting on the carpet] 121 00:07:33,671 --> 00:07:35,066 [Brad] I see the doll for sure. 122 00:07:35,706 --> 00:07:36,936 -[John] That's fine. That's-- -[Brad] Yeah, we're good. 123 00:07:36,971 --> 00:07:38,234 That's mainly what I want right there. 124 00:07:38,269 --> 00:07:39,675 Yeah. That's good. 125 00:07:40,678 --> 00:07:42,304 [John] All right, so you have John, Alice, 126 00:07:42,339 --> 00:07:44,614 Brad in the house investigating tonight. 127 00:07:45,375 --> 00:07:47,815 We would love some kind of visual representation 128 00:07:47,850 --> 00:07:49,179 that you can hear our voices 129 00:07:49,214 --> 00:07:50,213 and you can communicate with us. 130 00:07:51,149 --> 00:07:53,282 And we continue to ask over and over again 131 00:07:53,317 --> 00:07:55,317 that any intelligent entity that's here, 132 00:07:55,352 --> 00:07:56,824 push that doll down. 133 00:07:59,125 --> 00:08:02,698 There's been objects that have moved off the stairs. 134 00:08:03,734 --> 00:08:04,997 They've been pushed. 135 00:08:07,771 --> 00:08:09,100 Can you do that again? 136 00:08:09,135 --> 00:08:10,574 Is that possible? 137 00:08:11,203 --> 00:08:12,576 Push that little doll. 138 00:08:13,879 --> 00:08:15,777 That little doll on the stairs, just push it backwards for us. 139 00:08:15,812 --> 00:08:20,848 ♪ 140 00:08:23,754 --> 00:08:26,381 [John] So, we are verbally asking you 141 00:08:26,416 --> 00:08:28,823 to focus your energy on that blue doll. 142 00:08:32,323 --> 00:08:33,762 And eventually... 143 00:08:35,260 --> 00:08:37,029 Amazingly, 144 00:08:37,064 --> 00:08:38,635 the doll fell. 145 00:08:38,670 --> 00:08:41,099 [Alice] Every time I come, I ask that doll to fall. 146 00:08:41,134 --> 00:08:42,738 -I do, too-- -I'd say that. 147 00:08:42,773 --> 00:08:44,366 And I was reinforcin' it and I said, 148 00:08:44,401 --> 00:08:46,203 "John, we'd love for you to have it fall 149 00:08:46,238 --> 00:08:48,205 even now or even [indistinct]." 150 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:53,617 ♪ 151 00:08:56,017 --> 00:08:57,247 [thudding] 152 00:08:57,282 --> 00:09:02,659 ♪ 153 00:09:06,698 --> 00:09:08,258 Oh, my God. [indistinct]. 154 00:09:08,293 --> 00:09:13,703 ♪ 155 00:09:26,311 --> 00:09:27,882 [Alice] Oh, wow. 156 00:09:27,917 --> 00:09:32,920 ♪ 157 00:09:39,456 --> 00:09:43,733 [ball thudding several times] 158 00:09:43,768 --> 00:09:47,066 The ball's come down the steps several times still. 159 00:09:47,431 --> 00:09:49,772 And more recently, it's actually seems like 160 00:09:49,807 --> 00:09:51,939 the ball has gotten more aggressive 161 00:09:51,974 --> 00:09:53,776 when it comes off the stairs, 162 00:09:53,811 --> 00:09:55,844 even to the fact where it will actually pivot almost 163 00:09:55,879 --> 00:09:57,978 before it actually just falls straight off. 164 00:09:58,013 --> 00:10:03,049 ♪ 165 00:10:06,186 --> 00:10:09,154 [ball bouncing] 166 00:10:17,362 --> 00:10:21,705 [ball bouncing] 167 00:10:30,441 --> 00:10:33,816 [ball bouncing] 168 00:10:34,379 --> 00:10:38,150 [indistinct chatter] 169 00:10:43,322 --> 00:10:46,224 [clattering] 170 00:10:46,259 --> 00:10:48,457 -Oh, shit! -[indistinct] 171 00:10:48,492 --> 00:10:50,800 [Alice] Yeah, shit! Oh, baby, oh, my God. 172 00:10:50,835 --> 00:10:52,362 Look at that-- Look at my arms. 173 00:10:52,397 --> 00:10:53,935 -[indistinct] -So, which one? 174 00:10:53,970 --> 00:10:57,235 -So, it's 12:57-- -[overlapping chatter] 175 00:10:57,270 --> 00:10:59,534 Oh, look. Let's come over here and look. 176 00:10:59,569 --> 00:11:02,306 Uh, the keyboards play by itself on command. 177 00:11:02,341 --> 00:11:06,244 The organ, uh, the piano playing on command, 178 00:11:06,279 --> 00:11:08,213 responding with deep burst. 179 00:11:08,248 --> 00:11:10,347 Uh, that-- that's been something that's been new. 180 00:11:10,382 --> 00:11:13,185 So, if you wanna walk over here and play that keyboard, 181 00:11:13,220 --> 00:11:15,891 or play that piano, play it for us. 182 00:11:15,926 --> 00:11:19,257 Just give us some kind of sign that you're here, 183 00:11:19,292 --> 00:11:21,127 you can hear our voice 184 00:11:21,162 --> 00:11:23,360 and, uh, you want to communicate with us 185 00:11:23,395 --> 00:11:25,032 for a little bit of time. 186 00:11:25,067 --> 00:11:26,968 So, if you could light that up, that'd be fantastic. 187 00:11:27,003 --> 00:11:28,497 Obviously, you know, you can always turn the chandelier off 188 00:11:28,532 --> 00:11:30,004 to get our attention. 189 00:11:30,039 --> 00:11:31,533 Put a ball in this little chair right here, 190 00:11:31,568 --> 00:11:34,140 by doll and you know-- 191 00:11:36,210 --> 00:11:38,012 -[music playing] -[Brad] Un-- Unbelievable. 192 00:11:38,509 --> 00:11:40,014 What the-- 193 00:11:40,049 --> 00:11:41,851 Dude, tell me what the odds are. 194 00:11:41,886 --> 00:11:45,151 -[distant instrumental noises] -[background chatter] 195 00:11:49,190 --> 00:11:50,827 [man] It's clearly Sabrina. 196 00:11:50,862 --> 00:11:52,224 [John] That was [indistinct]. 197 00:11:53,623 --> 00:11:56,063 -[Brad] Oh, shit. -[Alice] Holy shit. Yeah. 198 00:11:57,033 --> 00:11:58,329 [John] My music box is playing 199 00:11:58,364 --> 00:11:59,836 -[woman] It is! -[Alice] Oh. 200 00:12:02,973 --> 00:12:05,204 -[woman] Did you hear music? -[man] Yes, certainly. 201 00:12:06,141 --> 00:12:07,206 It faded out. 202 00:12:07,241 --> 00:12:09,307 [Alice] But what is it? [indistinct] 203 00:12:09,947 --> 00:12:13,850 [indistinct chatter] 204 00:12:15,249 --> 00:12:16,886 [Brad] Yeah. 205 00:12:16,921 --> 00:12:19,955 [indistinct] 206 00:12:19,990 --> 00:12:22,826 Oh, look at this, look at this, look at this! 207 00:12:23,620 --> 00:12:25,191 Did you hear that? 208 00:12:25,226 --> 00:12:27,996 Dude, that frickin' piano just played by itself! 209 00:12:30,198 --> 00:12:32,594 [John] One of the major differences 210 00:12:32,629 --> 00:12:34,629 with the chandelier is not only 211 00:12:34,664 --> 00:12:36,532 does it turn off now, 212 00:12:36,567 --> 00:12:38,006 but we've actually captured 213 00:12:38,041 --> 00:12:40,371 the chandelier turning on by itself. 214 00:12:40,406 --> 00:12:45,442 ♪ 215 00:12:45,477 --> 00:12:46,641 We've been asking the-- 216 00:12:46,676 --> 00:12:50,084 the-- whatever's 217 00:12:50,119 --> 00:12:52,185 shutting that light off 218 00:12:52,220 --> 00:12:53,483 to turn back on. 219 00:12:54,024 --> 00:12:56,992 And that hasn't happened ever until recently. 220 00:12:57,027 --> 00:12:59,995 All of a sudden it starts happening. 221 00:13:01,592 --> 00:13:03,867 [Alice] Hey, what'll be? 222 00:13:05,398 --> 00:13:08,036 [indistinct] 223 00:13:08,665 --> 00:13:10,203 Be back tomorrow. 224 00:13:16,574 --> 00:13:18,277 So, if you want to do something, 225 00:13:18,312 --> 00:13:20,114 we-- we'll still be able to see it. 226 00:13:20,149 --> 00:13:21,478 If you want to turn that light on, 227 00:13:21,513 --> 00:13:22,578 we'll be able to see it. 228 00:13:22,613 --> 00:13:28,023 ♪ 229 00:13:38,035 --> 00:13:40,266 I think that when we put our energy into it 230 00:13:40,301 --> 00:13:42,664 and we can express the emotions that we have 231 00:13:42,699 --> 00:13:44,666 and how important it is, there's something 232 00:13:44,701 --> 00:13:46,338 in this house and these four walls 233 00:13:46,373 --> 00:13:49,044 in this land that's reacting to us, 234 00:13:49,079 --> 00:13:51,343 and it wants to help tell its story. 235 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,149 [bird chirps] 236 00:13:55,184 --> 00:13:58,317 How does it make you feel knowing that you have 237 00:13:58,352 --> 00:14:00,352 this beautiful house, 238 00:14:00,387 --> 00:14:02,552 um, but you literally 239 00:14:02,587 --> 00:14:04,257 have to live somewhere else? 240 00:14:04,292 --> 00:14:06,996 Yeah, I remember thinking, you know, 241 00:14:07,031 --> 00:14:09,724 before that I might probably need to sell it 242 00:14:09,759 --> 00:14:12,001 because I'm doing the upkeep and, you know, 243 00:14:12,036 --> 00:14:13,299 and, um... 244 00:14:14,468 --> 00:14:17,699 But I can't because I feel emotionally attached to it. 245 00:14:17,734 --> 00:14:21,439 Actually, my daughter died September of 2020. 246 00:14:21,474 --> 00:14:24,442 But I think I've processed it pretty well 247 00:14:24,477 --> 00:14:27,016 because she was very ill and I knew that, 248 00:14:27,051 --> 00:14:28,314 I knew that she was dying. 249 00:14:28,349 --> 00:14:29,579 And, you know, and we had time-- 250 00:14:29,614 --> 00:14:31,152 We even talked about it. 251 00:14:31,187 --> 00:14:33,055 We had time to express ourselves and, you know, 252 00:14:33,090 --> 00:14:35,750 we had this-- she said, "I'm-- I hope I die 253 00:14:35,785 --> 00:14:37,422 before you do because," she said, 254 00:14:37,457 --> 00:14:39,127 "I think you could handle it better than I could." 255 00:14:41,131 --> 00:14:44,264 [low background chatter] 256 00:14:44,299 --> 00:14:46,167 You are the best mom ever. 257 00:14:46,565 --> 00:14:48,268 [laughing] 258 00:14:51,372 --> 00:14:53,405 She had a lot of experiences, and so did I, 259 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,110 and I really kind of hate that they're gone 260 00:14:55,145 --> 00:14:56,606 except just in my own memory. 261 00:14:56,641 --> 00:15:02,051 ♪ 262 00:15:04,319 --> 00:15:06,253 Oh, look. We really have this thing. 263 00:15:06,288 --> 00:15:07,617 -[Steve] Looks good! -[man] All right. 264 00:15:07,652 --> 00:15:09,223 This is roll A02 clip four, 265 00:15:09,258 --> 00:15:10,752 this is Ashley Pevey's interview. 266 00:15:10,787 --> 00:15:12,325 -On marker. -[click] 267 00:15:16,595 --> 00:15:18,133 I'm Ashley Pevey. 268 00:15:18,498 --> 00:15:19,662 I grew up in this house 269 00:15:19,697 --> 00:15:22,533 and my mom is Alice Jackson. 270 00:15:24,273 --> 00:15:25,536 [Steve] Do you believe in ghosts? 271 00:15:26,407 --> 00:15:29,375 Oh, yeah, I do believe in ghosts. 272 00:15:31,412 --> 00:15:34,479 But I'm-- I'm real conflicted. 273 00:15:34,514 --> 00:15:37,086 I can't decide if I am 274 00:15:37,121 --> 00:15:38,648 wanting to embrace this, 275 00:15:38,683 --> 00:15:42,553 or wanting to totally reject it 'cause it's scary. 276 00:15:42,588 --> 00:15:44,159 You know, it is scary. 277 00:15:44,722 --> 00:15:46,458 All these things are [laughs]. 278 00:15:47,197 --> 00:15:50,462 They're just not normal. 279 00:15:51,861 --> 00:15:54,235 I'm not really scared because I grew up here. 280 00:15:54,270 --> 00:15:55,797 I mean, I'm not really scared. 281 00:15:56,338 --> 00:15:58,668 But if something happens, 282 00:15:58,703 --> 00:16:00,340 then I get scared. 283 00:16:00,837 --> 00:16:02,540 What's my mom's name? 284 00:16:05,314 --> 00:16:06,511 Oh! 285 00:16:07,811 --> 00:16:09,514 [man] Oh, my God. [laughing] 286 00:16:09,549 --> 00:16:10,713 It's okay. 287 00:16:10,748 --> 00:16:12,814 When I had John Joseph, my child, 288 00:16:12,849 --> 00:16:14,354 he was six months old 289 00:16:14,389 --> 00:16:17,819 and we were sleeping in that bed by ourselves. 290 00:16:17,854 --> 00:16:19,524 This is the weirdest thing. 291 00:16:19,559 --> 00:16:21,196 Then he started crying. 292 00:16:21,231 --> 00:16:23,297 And so I came in this kitchen to get him some milk. 293 00:16:23,695 --> 00:16:26,366 And when I got to the kitchen to get him some milk, 294 00:16:26,401 --> 00:16:29,699 I heard this ballroom music in this living room. 295 00:16:29,734 --> 00:16:32,207 And it was like, very loud 296 00:16:32,242 --> 00:16:34,407 and it was just playin' and playin'. 297 00:16:34,805 --> 00:16:36,838 And my mother-in-law had come here 298 00:16:36,873 --> 00:16:38,312 and she was upstairs. 299 00:16:38,347 --> 00:16:40,149 And I thought, "When she wakes up, 300 00:16:40,184 --> 00:16:43,251 I'm goin' fuss at her for having that ringtone 301 00:16:43,286 --> 00:16:45,649 that plays all night long." 302 00:16:46,223 --> 00:16:49,191 But the whole time I was down here getting milk, 303 00:16:49,226 --> 00:16:51,193 there was ballroom music. 304 00:16:51,228 --> 00:16:52,458 When I got up in the morning, 305 00:16:52,493 --> 00:16:54,823 she'd not left her phone down here. 306 00:16:54,858 --> 00:16:56,396 Her phone was upstairs. 307 00:16:56,761 --> 00:16:58,794 But I heard that music. 308 00:16:58,829 --> 00:17:00,400 I mean. 309 00:17:00,435 --> 00:17:03,205 I wish somebody could find an answer 310 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:07,407 but, um, I'm afraid of what that answer might be. 311 00:17:07,442 --> 00:17:08,507 You know? 312 00:17:09,807 --> 00:17:11,510 Ashley's passing. 313 00:17:11,941 --> 00:17:14,480 We lost her quickly. 314 00:17:14,812 --> 00:17:17,318 And Alice is so unique. 315 00:17:17,353 --> 00:17:19,749 She processes some things 316 00:17:19,784 --> 00:17:21,652 differently than anybody that I know. 317 00:17:22,226 --> 00:17:25,293 I'm actually fine because I think 318 00:17:25,328 --> 00:17:27,295 I've processed all that ahead of time. 319 00:17:27,330 --> 00:17:29,495 But I still think that life continues. 320 00:17:29,530 --> 00:17:31,893 And I really-- when I visualize her, 321 00:17:31,928 --> 00:17:36,238 my natural sense is that, um, 322 00:17:36,273 --> 00:17:38,702 she's perfectly fine, she's perfectly happy. 323 00:17:41,245 --> 00:17:42,937 [Brad] One of the reasons why we decided 324 00:17:42,972 --> 00:17:46,908 to start calling out Ashley's name 325 00:17:46,943 --> 00:17:49,779 is because she knows what we do here 326 00:17:49,814 --> 00:17:51,253 as far as investigating. 327 00:17:51,288 --> 00:17:54,454 Ashley did grow up here. She loved Alice. 328 00:17:54,819 --> 00:17:57,457 And, I mean, it makes sense. She knows what we did. 329 00:17:57,492 --> 00:17:59,261 -She liked what we did. -[Brad] And of course, 330 00:17:59,296 --> 00:18:01,791 we did this with Alice's consent, 331 00:18:01,826 --> 00:18:02,924 which is very important. 332 00:18:02,959 --> 00:18:04,893 And the night we did that, 333 00:18:04,928 --> 00:18:08,567 we did get some strange, direct responses 334 00:18:08,602 --> 00:18:10,602 from the organ over in the corner. 335 00:18:10,637 --> 00:18:12,307 [John] We were respectful, obviously. 336 00:18:12,342 --> 00:18:14,606 And we said, "Ashley, are you here?" 337 00:18:14,641 --> 00:18:16,344 You know, "Can you give us a sign?" 338 00:18:16,379 --> 00:18:18,313 You know, "We would love to communicate with you, 339 00:18:18,348 --> 00:18:20,579 talk to you, let you know Alice misses you." 340 00:18:21,318 --> 00:18:23,846 And all of a sudden, 341 00:18:23,881 --> 00:18:26,684 the organ piano started booming 342 00:18:26,719 --> 00:18:28,422 a deep bass hit. 343 00:18:29,755 --> 00:18:31,194 Ashley? 344 00:18:31,691 --> 00:18:32,987 This is John. 345 00:18:33,022 --> 00:18:35,297 -[deep thumping] -[Brad gasps] 346 00:18:35,959 --> 00:18:37,893 -Oh my-- Oh my-- -[thumping continues] 347 00:18:37,928 --> 00:18:39,499 [woman] Sounds like a heartbeat. 348 00:18:41,998 --> 00:18:43,800 [Brad] 'Cause every time we say Ashley. 349 00:18:43,835 --> 00:18:45,340 Every time. [chuckling] 350 00:18:46,739 --> 00:18:49,707 Ashley, is-- is this you? 351 00:18:49,742 --> 00:18:52,611 [faint thumping] 352 00:18:55,484 --> 00:18:57,913 [Brad] This is an ab-- absolute direct responses, 353 00:18:57,948 --> 00:19:00,322 I mean, it's unbelievable. 354 00:19:01,325 --> 00:19:02,720 It wasn't a keystroke. 355 00:19:02,755 --> 00:19:05,426 It was a thumping sound coming from the organ. 356 00:19:06,363 --> 00:19:07,725 [thumping continues] 357 00:19:09,025 --> 00:19:11,300 Thank you. Keep doing that for us. 358 00:19:18,573 --> 00:19:21,508 That's a direct response. Thank you. 359 00:19:22,676 --> 00:19:26,282 [deep thumping] 360 00:19:29,419 --> 00:19:30,880 [Alice] Turn it off. Or like-- 361 00:19:30,915 --> 00:19:34,048 [thumping continues] 362 00:19:34,083 --> 00:19:35,654 [Brad] [indistinct] power off. 363 00:19:35,689 --> 00:19:38,525 [Olivia] Yeah. Yeah. There's only... 364 00:19:42,058 --> 00:19:43,530 I'm just curious because whenever 365 00:19:43,565 --> 00:19:45,565 we all go back there, it stops. 366 00:19:46,601 --> 00:19:48,832 [Brad] It's off. My phone's down. Off. 367 00:19:50,407 --> 00:19:52,407 -[Olivia] Lights off-- -[Brad] Chandelier shut off. 368 00:19:52,442 --> 00:19:54,607 Later on we found out, or I found out, 369 00:19:54,642 --> 00:19:58,006 that Ashley is who gave Alice 370 00:19:58,041 --> 00:20:00,481 that piano, organ. 371 00:20:00,516 --> 00:20:02,450 We got an organ in the house. 372 00:20:02,485 --> 00:20:04,045 And, uh, we had heard, you know, 373 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:05,717 my daughter gave it to me 374 00:20:05,752 --> 00:20:08,049 because she had heard of a lady in town was selling it 375 00:20:08,084 --> 00:20:09,787 because she said it was haunted. 376 00:20:09,822 --> 00:20:11,855 And she was trying to sell it for $150. 377 00:20:11,890 --> 00:20:13,395 Well, nobody bought it. 378 00:20:13,430 --> 00:20:15,826 And so then she said she'd sell it for $75. 379 00:20:16,433 --> 00:20:18,026 I told Ashley I would take it, you know. 380 00:20:18,061 --> 00:20:19,500 And so, uh, I went up there 381 00:20:19,535 --> 00:20:21,535 and got it and it didn't do anything. 382 00:20:21,570 --> 00:20:24,901 But when John and Brad tried to get the organ to play, 383 00:20:24,936 --> 00:20:27,673 they called her name and that's when it played. 384 00:20:28,676 --> 00:20:30,445 [faint thumping] 385 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:31,743 [Brad] There was two right there. 386 00:20:31,778 --> 00:20:34,746 It did, "Dum-dum." You-- 'Cause you went... 387 00:20:36,387 --> 00:20:38,354 [Brad] Do I think it's Ashley? 388 00:20:38,752 --> 00:20:39,785 Again, it's speculation. 389 00:20:39,820 --> 00:20:42,017 But I think it's possible because of the amount 390 00:20:42,052 --> 00:20:43,689 of direct responses that I got. 391 00:20:43,724 --> 00:20:46,021 It's not crazy to think that this would be a place 392 00:20:46,056 --> 00:20:47,693 if Ashley was to come and visit. 393 00:20:47,728 --> 00:20:50,124 Now, I'm not saying that I necessarily 394 00:20:50,159 --> 00:20:51,763 think that was her. 395 00:20:51,798 --> 00:20:53,864 But I know that she would do that if she could. 396 00:20:55,901 --> 00:21:00,937 ♪ 397 00:21:10,014 --> 00:21:11,750 [indistinct chatter] 398 00:21:14,117 --> 00:21:16,821 Obviously, we know that the land is probably 399 00:21:16,856 --> 00:21:19,527 the heartbeat of the supernatural things 400 00:21:19,562 --> 00:21:20,825 that are happening here. 401 00:21:21,432 --> 00:21:22,728 [Brad] Say hello, John Bullard. 402 00:21:22,763 --> 00:21:23,795 What's happenin'? 403 00:21:23,830 --> 00:21:25,533 [Brad] John Bullard's in the house. 404 00:21:25,568 --> 00:21:26,864 [John] Sabrina, all you need is a beach and this. 405 00:21:27,735 --> 00:21:28,899 [Brad] Amy Bullard's in the house. 406 00:21:29,803 --> 00:21:32,573 Seeing the research tent pop up is cool 407 00:21:32,608 --> 00:21:34,509 because it's nice to have a base camp. 408 00:21:36,447 --> 00:21:37,710 It makes it easier for us 409 00:21:37,745 --> 00:21:39,481 to help document things in the house. 410 00:21:39,516 --> 00:21:42,583 So to see this tent, that's things we dream 411 00:21:42,618 --> 00:21:44,178 of being able to have access to 412 00:21:44,213 --> 00:21:45,619 as paranormal investigators. 413 00:21:45,654 --> 00:21:46,917 -[John] In here. -[Brad] This is awesome. 414 00:21:46,952 --> 00:21:48,391 [John] This is awesome. 415 00:21:49,526 --> 00:21:51,020 One of the most exciting things 416 00:21:51,055 --> 00:21:52,692 is the ground-penetrating radar. 417 00:21:52,727 --> 00:21:54,430 Alice has been wanting to do that for forever. 418 00:21:54,465 --> 00:21:56,762 [Benton] I'm Benton Smith with Century Mapping. 419 00:21:56,797 --> 00:21:59,765 We combine ground-penetrating radar with GPS. 420 00:22:00,570 --> 00:22:02,768 We map underground infrastructure 421 00:22:02,803 --> 00:22:05,903 from cemeteries to municipalities, 422 00:22:05,938 --> 00:22:07,476 anything that's underground. 423 00:22:07,511 --> 00:22:08,741 If there was a burial, like, 424 00:22:08,776 --> 00:22:10,809 let's say a body was buried in a shroud. 425 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,516 Um, body decomposes really quickly... 426 00:22:15,552 --> 00:22:18,586 leaving basically a pocket of air. 427 00:22:21,690 --> 00:22:23,690 Yeah, so. All right. So you see this? 428 00:22:24,055 --> 00:22:26,957 This could be just a change in the type of soil. 429 00:22:26,992 --> 00:22:28,563 I mean, it could be from-- 430 00:22:29,159 --> 00:22:30,928 obviously we have a lot of clay here. 431 00:22:30,963 --> 00:22:32,996 But in your estimation, it would probably 432 00:22:33,031 --> 00:22:35,196 just be soil related 433 00:22:35,231 --> 00:22:37,066 and not like a man-made structure 434 00:22:37,101 --> 00:22:38,672 or burial, that sort of thing? 435 00:22:38,707 --> 00:22:40,234 -Not a burial. -Okay. 436 00:22:40,269 --> 00:22:42,071 Not a burial, but I mean, could it be 437 00:22:42,106 --> 00:22:43,545 something that was man-made, yeah. 438 00:22:43,580 --> 00:22:47,142 [ominous instrumental] 439 00:22:47,177 --> 00:22:50,849 [machinery rattling] 440 00:23:05,965 --> 00:23:11,001 ♪ 441 00:23:22,883 --> 00:23:24,014 So these are-- 442 00:23:25,314 --> 00:23:27,017 These are potential burials. 443 00:23:27,723 --> 00:23:29,525 It's not a lot to see. 444 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,219 But you can see here 445 00:23:31,254 --> 00:23:33,155 there's a beginning and an end. 446 00:23:33,190 --> 00:23:34,860 -Yes. -[Benton] This is about 447 00:23:34,895 --> 00:23:36,059 four to five feet. 448 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,964 And so everywhere that I have a red flag, 449 00:23:39,999 --> 00:23:41,097 it's very similar. 450 00:23:41,132 --> 00:23:42,637 There's something there. 451 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,772 Is that typically what you would see 452 00:23:45,807 --> 00:23:47,675 if you were doing that sort of work-- 453 00:23:47,710 --> 00:23:49,875 [Benton] Yeah, in a-- For an unmarked grave? Yeah. 454 00:23:49,910 --> 00:23:52,548 -Okay. -There's certainly... 455 00:23:54,046 --> 00:23:55,914 I mean, so far I've found 456 00:23:55,949 --> 00:23:58,114 10 areas that... 457 00:24:00,217 --> 00:24:03,284 some of them could be unmarked graves. 458 00:24:03,319 --> 00:24:04,758 -Wow. -Yeah. 459 00:24:04,793 --> 00:24:06,155 -Oh, my gosh. -[Benton] Could be. 460 00:24:06,190 --> 00:24:07,761 Ten, huh? Whoo. 461 00:24:09,325 --> 00:24:12,931 [pensive instrumental] 462 00:24:17,333 --> 00:24:18,904 -[Steve] Alice? Hey. -[Alice] Hey. 463 00:24:19,940 --> 00:24:22,006 Alice, this is Carolyn. Uh, Carolyn. Uh, Alice. 464 00:24:22,041 --> 00:24:24,041 -How are you? -[Alice] Nice to meet you. 465 00:24:24,076 --> 00:24:27,649 So I brought in a geophysicist named Carolyn 466 00:24:27,684 --> 00:24:30,113 with background in astrophysics to really 467 00:24:30,148 --> 00:24:33,886 look into what could be creating that light phenomena. 468 00:24:33,921 --> 00:24:36,317 Because a lot of things can be explained 469 00:24:36,352 --> 00:24:38,891 by what's happening environmentally 470 00:24:38,926 --> 00:24:41,091 and not something paranormal. 471 00:24:41,126 --> 00:24:44,358 I'm delighted to have somebody to tell that story to 472 00:24:44,393 --> 00:24:46,162 who would understand possibly. 473 00:24:46,197 --> 00:24:48,296 My name is Carolyn Streiff 474 00:24:48,331 --> 00:24:51,134 and I am a geophysicist 475 00:24:51,169 --> 00:24:53,741 that specializes in near-surface 476 00:24:53,776 --> 00:24:56,810 geophysics acquisition and analysis. 477 00:24:58,748 --> 00:25:01,342 The ERI is a very useful tool 478 00:25:01,377 --> 00:25:03,982 because we already have known 479 00:25:04,017 --> 00:25:05,654 value ranges 480 00:25:05,689 --> 00:25:08,657 for different sediment and rock units. 481 00:25:08,692 --> 00:25:11,858 I could give some information now for Alice 482 00:25:11,893 --> 00:25:15,026 to hopefully be able to start coming to some sort of 483 00:25:15,061 --> 00:25:17,699 resolution of what is happening here. 484 00:25:18,097 --> 00:25:19,833 [Steve] She gave us a lot of theories 485 00:25:19,868 --> 00:25:22,165 as to what could be creating the phenomena 486 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:23,298 Alice is experiencing. 487 00:25:23,333 --> 00:25:25,267 It has to do with earthquakes 488 00:25:25,302 --> 00:25:27,335 and maybe even volcanoes 489 00:25:27,370 --> 00:25:29,645 and fault lines and blue shale 490 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,977 that's underneath the ground here. 491 00:25:32,012 --> 00:25:34,716 There are different types of rocks 492 00:25:34,751 --> 00:25:36,850 that when you heat them or cool them, 493 00:25:36,885 --> 00:25:38,720 they will have a voltage. 494 00:25:38,755 --> 00:25:41,789 If you compress them, if you get a charge on to them. 495 00:25:41,824 --> 00:25:45,221 Also, when you do different mechanical processes, 496 00:25:45,256 --> 00:25:46,893 they will illuminate. 497 00:25:47,258 --> 00:25:48,730 There is 498 00:25:48,765 --> 00:25:51,425 an actual scientific effect 499 00:25:51,460 --> 00:25:54,395 that creates light from rubbing quartz. 500 00:25:54,430 --> 00:25:56,034 And because we know 501 00:25:56,069 --> 00:25:58,905 that Alice has sand and shale underneath her home, 502 00:25:58,940 --> 00:26:01,105 there is quartz in sand and shale. 503 00:26:01,437 --> 00:26:03,976 So, could something be causing 504 00:26:04,011 --> 00:26:07,650 some of these light effects that Alice is seeing? 505 00:26:08,081 --> 00:26:11,148 What if something is affecting Alice's house 506 00:26:11,183 --> 00:26:14,382 momentarily because of charges in the ground 507 00:26:14,417 --> 00:26:15,922 that could be occurring? 508 00:26:18,025 --> 00:26:20,388 Having a geophysicist come do research here 509 00:26:20,423 --> 00:26:22,060 on the land is-- is huge. 510 00:26:22,799 --> 00:26:24,326 [Brad] I think it's very exciting anytime you have 511 00:26:24,361 --> 00:26:28,462 a person of science background that's willing to reach out 512 00:26:28,497 --> 00:26:30,431 to the paranormal side of things. 513 00:26:30,466 --> 00:26:31,938 You don't see that. 514 00:26:32,270 --> 00:26:33,907 I-- At least I haven't. 515 00:26:33,942 --> 00:26:35,975 I haven't seen much of that at all in this field. 516 00:26:36,010 --> 00:26:40,716 ♪ 517 00:26:41,312 --> 00:26:42,850 -Hey, Carolyn. -Hey. 518 00:26:42,885 --> 00:26:46,249 You said you had some information to share. 519 00:26:46,757 --> 00:26:48,790 This line we did 520 00:26:48,825 --> 00:26:52,189 that passed by the tree that the dog hit at. 521 00:26:52,224 --> 00:26:54,125 So, there's something else in the ground there. 522 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:55,830 That is not soil, that is something. 523 00:26:55,865 --> 00:26:57,029 And it's not a tree root. 524 00:26:57,064 --> 00:26:58,833 It's too big to be a tree root. 525 00:26:58,868 --> 00:27:01,396 So, what you're saying basically is the electricity 526 00:27:01,431 --> 00:27:02,804 goes through the soil. 527 00:27:02,839 --> 00:27:04,333 -[Carolyn] Mm-hmm. -[Steve] And here 528 00:27:04,368 --> 00:27:06,335 it is not conducting 529 00:27:06,370 --> 00:27:08,337 because there is a void there. 530 00:27:08,944 --> 00:27:11,912 Yeah, it's having a hard-- it's having a harder time 531 00:27:11,947 --> 00:27:13,815 going through the soil. 532 00:27:13,850 --> 00:27:16,312 -[Steve] Wow. -I'll tell you something. 533 00:27:16,347 --> 00:27:19,986 This is extremely similar 534 00:27:20,021 --> 00:27:23,990 to when I did an old section of a cemetery 535 00:27:24,025 --> 00:27:26,520 and the body was no longer decomposing 536 00:27:26,555 --> 00:27:28,489 so there was no longer any signature of the body. 537 00:27:28,524 --> 00:27:31,932 But the fill that was above the body 538 00:27:31,967 --> 00:27:34,803 was still resistive enough to be shown, 539 00:27:34,838 --> 00:27:36,805 which is what we're exactly seeing here. 540 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,808 And there's now fresh soil on top. 541 00:27:39,843 --> 00:27:41,876 So, that's a loose sort of fill, 542 00:27:41,911 --> 00:27:44,780 as if somebody had a shovel or something. 543 00:27:44,815 --> 00:27:46,177 [Carolyn] It would be. 544 00:27:46,212 --> 00:27:48,509 It would be, yeah, where somebody dug something 545 00:27:48,544 --> 00:27:49,917 and then filled the hole back up. 546 00:27:49,952 --> 00:27:51,787 There's something going on there. 547 00:27:51,822 --> 00:27:52,986 This is great. 548 00:27:53,021 --> 00:27:54,416 Thank you for all this hard work. 549 00:27:55,056 --> 00:27:57,254 I think we may have to dig there 550 00:27:57,289 --> 00:27:58,794 and just see what-- 551 00:27:58,829 --> 00:28:00,191 what is there. 552 00:28:00,226 --> 00:28:02,930 [wind whooshing] 553 00:28:05,594 --> 00:28:08,364 [night din] 554 00:28:13,305 --> 00:28:15,976 [owl hooting] 555 00:28:17,441 --> 00:28:19,848 [indistinct chatter] 556 00:28:20,851 --> 00:28:22,312 [Benton] Somebody what? 557 00:28:22,347 --> 00:28:27,383 ♪ 558 00:28:30,289 --> 00:28:31,420 [door slamming] 559 00:28:32,523 --> 00:28:34,588 Copy that. Copy that. Can you get your camera up? 560 00:28:34,623 --> 00:28:36,194 -Yeah. -[Benton] Thank you. 561 00:28:39,903 --> 00:28:41,430 Can you po-- Can you start rolling? 562 00:28:41,465 --> 00:28:43,564 -[man] Yeah. -[Benton] Hey, Steve? 563 00:28:43,599 --> 00:28:48,602 ♪ 564 00:28:48,637 --> 00:28:50,978 [Benton] Yeah, we're comin' out front. 565 00:28:51,013 --> 00:28:56,049 ♪ 566 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,822 [night din] 567 00:29:01,353 --> 00:29:03,287 Well-- wha-- what happened? Why-- why are you-- 568 00:29:03,322 --> 00:29:04,387 Okay. 569 00:29:05,324 --> 00:29:06,862 So. 570 00:29:07,964 --> 00:29:10,965 I was like, kind of looking over here the entire time. 571 00:29:11,495 --> 00:29:13,594 All of a sudden, 572 00:29:13,629 --> 00:29:16,300 out of-- out of nowhere, I just saw 573 00:29:16,335 --> 00:29:17,532 somebody. 574 00:29:17,567 --> 00:29:19,072 So if I'm standing over here. 575 00:29:19,107 --> 00:29:21,976 I'll show you exactly where the person walked. 576 00:29:23,672 --> 00:29:25,474 But they were definitely not heading into the tent. 577 00:29:25,509 --> 00:29:29,885 So, I expected to see somebody walk out the other side. 578 00:29:30,481 --> 00:29:32,316 And there is nobody over here. 579 00:29:32,351 --> 00:29:35,616 There's nobody here, nobody turned around. 580 00:29:35,651 --> 00:29:37,288 -Okay. -So, you were-- 581 00:29:37,323 --> 00:29:40,027 I'm just having a-- This is just too wild. 582 00:29:40,062 --> 00:29:41,325 Sorry. Yes. Okay. 583 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,163 [Steve] So, during your, just research 584 00:29:44,198 --> 00:29:46,264 on your lines, 585 00:29:46,299 --> 00:29:49,234 you thought you saw somebody walking over here? 586 00:29:49,269 --> 00:29:51,038 And you came over and there's nobody here? 587 00:29:51,073 --> 00:29:53,337 And I just happened to see 588 00:29:53,372 --> 00:29:55,372 as I'm facing towards 589 00:29:55,407 --> 00:29:57,979 this area of the yard, 590 00:29:58,014 --> 00:30:00,344 I saw somebody walking, 591 00:30:00,379 --> 00:30:03,677 uh, toward-- I saw somebody walking towards the tent. 592 00:30:03,712 --> 00:30:06,680 I mean, I don't want to put any more sort of-- 593 00:30:06,715 --> 00:30:09,584 not fear, but I guess maybe anxiety 594 00:30:09,619 --> 00:30:12,059 into the situation for you. 595 00:30:12,094 --> 00:30:14,930 But there are many, many reports 596 00:30:14,965 --> 00:30:18,527 of an apparition being seen back here. 597 00:30:18,562 --> 00:30:20,133 Uh, the neighbor has claimed 598 00:30:20,168 --> 00:30:21,904 to see an apparition back here. 599 00:30:22,335 --> 00:30:25,270 We did have a psychic named, uh, Jill come here 600 00:30:25,305 --> 00:30:29,142 and she drew the image of a gentleman 601 00:30:29,177 --> 00:30:32,046 that she saw in the backyard here. 602 00:30:32,708 --> 00:30:36,281 Uh, so, the gentleman I saw, 603 00:30:36,316 --> 00:30:38,547 without like-- I-- the thing that drew me 604 00:30:38,582 --> 00:30:41,385 to seeing this person walking for just a brief second 605 00:30:41,420 --> 00:30:44,685 was the fact that he was wearing white. 606 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,291 -But-- -[Steve] Carolyn came here 607 00:30:46,326 --> 00:30:48,997 as a total nonbeliever of the paranormal 608 00:30:49,032 --> 00:30:52,033 and had an experience that changed her mind. 609 00:30:52,068 --> 00:30:54,167 And she's honestly a little bit concerned 610 00:30:54,202 --> 00:30:56,004 that the science community 611 00:30:56,039 --> 00:30:58,171 is going to look down on her. 612 00:30:58,206 --> 00:30:59,733 They're going to raise their eyebrow. 613 00:30:59,768 --> 00:31:01,438 But, you know, that's scary for me 614 00:31:01,473 --> 00:31:04,980 because I wanted to completely explain 615 00:31:05,015 --> 00:31:07,246 a lot of the phenomena so I could tell Alice, like, 616 00:31:07,281 --> 00:31:09,743 what you're experiencing is actually A, B, C and D. 617 00:31:09,778 --> 00:31:12,713 But the geophysicist had an experience. 618 00:31:12,748 --> 00:31:16,123 Uh, we've had another person, Erin, 619 00:31:16,158 --> 00:31:19,258 who lived next door, grew up next door, 620 00:31:19,293 --> 00:31:21,392 who said she saw a full body apparition 621 00:31:21,427 --> 00:31:24,065 not only in the same location as the geophysicist 622 00:31:24,100 --> 00:31:28,069 but also the description was pretty close. 623 00:31:28,104 --> 00:31:30,302 A male in a white shirt. 624 00:31:30,337 --> 00:31:35,142 ♪ 625 00:31:35,177 --> 00:31:37,144 [Erin] The man I saw at the door, 626 00:31:37,179 --> 00:31:39,113 he seemed to be about my height. 627 00:31:39,148 --> 00:31:42,380 Very young. Early twenties. Late teens. 628 00:31:42,811 --> 00:31:45,317 He was wearing a white shirt and he had dark hair 629 00:31:45,352 --> 00:31:48,056 and it was slicked back and real strong eyes. 630 00:31:49,191 --> 00:31:53,061 I didn't feel like a presence or anything when I was here, 631 00:31:53,096 --> 00:31:56,262 cutting grass, it was completely sprung up on me. 632 00:31:57,793 --> 00:32:00,761 And he looked so real. 633 00:32:00,796 --> 00:32:02,433 He was looking this direction. 634 00:32:02,468 --> 00:32:05,139 And I came around the corner and he turned his head 635 00:32:05,174 --> 00:32:07,537 and looked right at me, and I looked at him. 636 00:32:08,144 --> 00:32:11,673 And his-- his eyes were so intense. 637 00:32:11,708 --> 00:32:14,577 It wasn't anything li-- the ghostly, 638 00:32:14,612 --> 00:32:18,548 fuzzy, foggy look that you think you see in movies and TV. 639 00:32:18,583 --> 00:32:22,156 He was completely solid. 640 00:32:24,127 --> 00:32:25,588 [John] Erin told us the story about 641 00:32:25,623 --> 00:32:28,195 seeing the full body apparition on the back land. 642 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,659 Yes, I remember that because I was at work 643 00:32:30,694 --> 00:32:32,826 and she called me and I mean, you could tell she was-- 644 00:32:32,861 --> 00:32:35,268 she was so nervous, excited. 645 00:32:35,303 --> 00:32:37,369 And she told me, you know, such detail. 646 00:32:37,404 --> 00:32:38,766 I mean, there's things that I think 647 00:32:38,801 --> 00:32:40,141 draw us out there a lot, you know? 648 00:32:40,176 --> 00:32:42,077 Whether it's the door opening 649 00:32:42,112 --> 00:32:43,540 or the EVP, we got one time that said, 650 00:32:43,575 --> 00:32:45,278 "I'm in the woods." 651 00:32:48,316 --> 00:32:50,283 I think that we really should focus a lot 652 00:32:50,318 --> 00:32:52,120 on the uh-- on the backyard. 653 00:32:52,155 --> 00:32:53,715 And I think that's the heartbeat of what's going on. 654 00:32:53,750 --> 00:32:57,224 [wind whooshes] 655 00:33:07,467 --> 00:33:09,170 [knocking] 656 00:33:12,670 --> 00:33:14,175 -[Jill] Hello. -[Alice] Jill. 657 00:33:14,210 --> 00:33:15,539 -It's good to see you. -[Jill] Hey, 658 00:33:15,574 --> 00:33:16,738 good to see you too. 659 00:33:16,773 --> 00:33:19,114 I'm excited that, uh, Jill Morris, 660 00:33:19,149 --> 00:33:20,478 who came last time, 661 00:33:20,513 --> 00:33:23,448 is coming back because she did have a lot of 662 00:33:23,483 --> 00:33:27,221 accurate statements and intuitive things 663 00:33:27,256 --> 00:33:29,355 that were borne out by things that happened. 664 00:33:30,424 --> 00:33:34,162 There is a female that I'm not familiar with 665 00:33:34,197 --> 00:33:36,230 that has been coming here 666 00:33:36,265 --> 00:33:39,398 and she brings with her a lot of music. 667 00:33:39,433 --> 00:33:42,335 Does that mean anything to you? 668 00:33:42,370 --> 00:33:43,666 It does. 669 00:33:43,701 --> 00:33:46,900 And I kept hearing music 670 00:33:46,935 --> 00:33:49,309 that almost sounded like a music box. 671 00:33:49,344 --> 00:33:52,609 [chuckles] That's exactly what we hear. 672 00:33:52,644 --> 00:33:53,874 [Jill] She was standing-- 673 00:33:53,909 --> 00:33:55,909 like I was here and she was standing 674 00:33:55,944 --> 00:33:58,681 more towards the door, so whatever this area 675 00:33:58,716 --> 00:34:00,452 where the table is over there-- 676 00:34:00,487 --> 00:34:02,355 And she was just twirling around, 677 00:34:02,390 --> 00:34:04,489 pulling all of these beautiful lights in 678 00:34:04,524 --> 00:34:07,228 with this beautiful music playing in the background. 679 00:34:07,626 --> 00:34:10,297 What I did is the name Rich came up, 680 00:34:10,332 --> 00:34:12,827 then Richardson, and I'm like, "What does this mean?" 681 00:34:12,862 --> 00:34:16,435 There is a waltz that goes back to the state of South Carolina. 682 00:34:16,899 --> 00:34:18,503 Does-- do you have any community-- 683 00:34:18,538 --> 00:34:20,274 Anything to do with South Carolina? 684 00:34:20,540 --> 00:34:22,408 Yes, that's where they're from. 685 00:34:22,443 --> 00:34:25,510 We have a genealogy book that traces the family back-- 686 00:34:25,545 --> 00:34:28,150 [Jill] This, for crying out loud. 687 00:34:30,352 --> 00:34:33,683 Then we have this spirit. 688 00:34:34,785 --> 00:34:37,324 And I call him the Reverend. 689 00:34:37,359 --> 00:34:40,228 I wouldn't say he was evil by any means. 690 00:34:40,263 --> 00:34:41,955 He's just a dark person. 691 00:34:41,990 --> 00:34:45,893 He just seemed to be when he was alive, 692 00:34:45,928 --> 00:34:47,664 which carries over... 693 00:34:49,536 --> 00:34:50,601 angry. 694 00:34:52,308 --> 00:34:55,309 They were-- this area, this land may have been his 695 00:34:55,344 --> 00:34:58,675 or he had something to do with this land at one time. 696 00:34:58,710 --> 00:34:59,940 I'm just going to say it. 697 00:34:59,975 --> 00:35:01,546 It's almost like, don't find out about me. 698 00:35:01,581 --> 00:35:03,845 Like, it's because it's an exposure. 699 00:35:04,386 --> 00:35:06,221 He was not a nice person and I do think 700 00:35:06,256 --> 00:35:09,785 he had a hand in what happened in the backyard. 701 00:35:10,722 --> 00:35:11,886 Okay. 702 00:35:11,921 --> 00:35:14,229 [birds chirping] 703 00:35:17,465 --> 00:35:20,466 So, this is the general area. 704 00:35:21,733 --> 00:35:23,205 Just going to be honest. 705 00:35:24,307 --> 00:35:26,604 He was taken here. I think he was hung here. 706 00:35:28,476 --> 00:35:30,773 There was a debt to be paid 707 00:35:30,808 --> 00:35:33,842 and he-- he was killed. 708 00:35:33,877 --> 00:35:35,745 It's not that he stole something. 709 00:35:36,352 --> 00:35:39,716 And that's kind of what his message is right now 710 00:35:39,751 --> 00:35:41,553 speaking with you, 711 00:35:41,588 --> 00:35:44,457 is to know he's not going to disrespect you. 712 00:35:44,492 --> 00:35:47,658 It's-- he wants people to understand he was a good man. 713 00:35:48,628 --> 00:35:50,529 But I think the reason he is really strong here 714 00:35:50,564 --> 00:35:53,026 is because this is where he passed. 715 00:35:53,061 --> 00:35:54,500 That's my opinion. 716 00:35:55,602 --> 00:35:57,635 But he tends to hang out here. 717 00:35:58,770 --> 00:36:01,342 [Steve] You know, I don't work with psychics, 718 00:36:01,377 --> 00:36:02,772 you know, that much. 719 00:36:02,807 --> 00:36:05,808 But my job here is to service the investigation, 720 00:36:05,843 --> 00:36:08,745 to service what Alice wants, to facilitate that. 721 00:36:08,780 --> 00:36:11,748 So if the team wants another psychic here, 722 00:36:11,783 --> 00:36:13,783 you know, we're going to bring one in for them. 723 00:36:13,818 --> 00:36:15,620 And I thought it was important to make sure 724 00:36:15,655 --> 00:36:17,688 that is a psychic who has never been 725 00:36:17,723 --> 00:36:19,261 to the house before. 726 00:36:19,791 --> 00:36:21,395 [knocking] 727 00:36:27,997 --> 00:36:29,403 -[Alice] Oh. Hello. -[Sam] Hello. 728 00:36:29,438 --> 00:36:30,767 -How are you? I'm Alice. -Hey, I'm Sam. 729 00:36:30,802 --> 00:36:32,571 -Nice to meet you. -Hey, nice to meet you. 730 00:36:32,606 --> 00:36:33,671 Come in. 731 00:36:33,706 --> 00:36:37,906 ♪ 732 00:36:37,941 --> 00:36:40,447 So, here we are. 733 00:36:40,482 --> 00:36:41,976 Yeah, so, I'll tell you, like, I-- 734 00:36:42,011 --> 00:36:43,516 Like, as soon as I came on the property, 735 00:36:43,551 --> 00:36:47,421 I definitely started having anxiety issues. 736 00:36:47,456 --> 00:36:49,522 So when it comes to my abilities 737 00:36:49,557 --> 00:36:52,426 as a clairvoyant and as a light of trance medium, 738 00:36:52,461 --> 00:36:55,495 I've learned to kind of separate my emotions 739 00:36:55,530 --> 00:36:56,958 from the emotions of the spirits 740 00:36:56,993 --> 00:36:58,498 that I'm communicating with. 741 00:36:59,402 --> 00:37:00,896 So, I came in with my guard up. 742 00:37:00,931 --> 00:37:03,635 I-- I did feel not welcomed 743 00:37:03,670 --> 00:37:05,538 when I first walked up to the property. 744 00:37:05,573 --> 00:37:07,474 So, I was feeling sort of the-- 745 00:37:07,509 --> 00:37:09,608 the energy, the chaos. 746 00:37:09,643 --> 00:37:12,611 So, what I've been picking up on for the past few days 747 00:37:12,646 --> 00:37:14,679 is there's an older gentleman, 748 00:37:14,714 --> 00:37:17,517 uh, who wants to communicate. 749 00:37:17,552 --> 00:37:20,916 And he definitely is the type of person that, 750 00:37:20,951 --> 00:37:23,358 uh, very cranky. 751 00:37:23,393 --> 00:37:26,955 So when I was coming in, he was like, 752 00:37:26,990 --> 00:37:28,924 basically telling me to get out. 753 00:37:28,959 --> 00:37:30,398 [Sam] Uh, and-- like, 754 00:37:30,433 --> 00:37:31,696 [Southern accent] "This is my land. 755 00:37:31,731 --> 00:37:33,126 This is my land!" 756 00:37:33,161 --> 00:37:34,765 And, um, 757 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,899 I think that we're going to see on the property 758 00:37:36,934 --> 00:37:39,099 that there is definitely, uh, 759 00:37:39,134 --> 00:37:41,706 signs that he was on the property. 760 00:37:41,741 --> 00:37:44,478 This was not his house. His house was out back. 761 00:37:44,513 --> 00:37:47,580 Now he has stuff in the back there-- 762 00:37:47,615 --> 00:37:49,010 He has secrets in the back. 763 00:37:49,584 --> 00:37:51,716 Um, and I hope that we can 764 00:37:51,751 --> 00:37:53,619 maybe uncover those secrets. 765 00:37:53,951 --> 00:37:55,753 But he's hiding something. 766 00:37:55,788 --> 00:37:56,952 Whoa. 767 00:37:59,759 --> 00:38:01,462 Well, I can see if-- if anybody 768 00:38:01,497 --> 00:38:03,123 has tried to stay in this room, 769 00:38:03,158 --> 00:38:04,762 like, why they wouldn't want to stay here. 770 00:38:04,797 --> 00:38:06,863 All right. I'm going to go there. 771 00:38:08,163 --> 00:38:09,602 Okay. 772 00:38:12,002 --> 00:38:13,771 Okay. [sighs] 773 00:38:16,842 --> 00:38:18,908 All right. What do you want from Alice? 774 00:38:18,943 --> 00:38:23,979 [tense music] 775 00:38:26,687 --> 00:38:28,819 All right, I'm seeing, um-- 776 00:38:32,858 --> 00:38:36,926 He wants you to dig. Uh, dig out in the back. 777 00:38:37,698 --> 00:38:40,798 Okay, um, he's showing me that he wants you to dig. 778 00:38:41,196 --> 00:38:43,031 Um, you-- there's something hidden down there. 779 00:38:43,066 --> 00:38:44,131 I'm getting chills. 780 00:38:44,166 --> 00:38:45,506 My back and my neck 781 00:38:45,541 --> 00:38:47,739 is being touched right now. 782 00:38:48,104 --> 00:38:49,543 Um. 783 00:38:50,172 --> 00:38:52,579 Well, when I was connecting with the spirit 784 00:38:52,614 --> 00:38:54,482 of the older man, he kept saying, 785 00:38:54,517 --> 00:38:56,484 "Dig, dig, dig." 786 00:38:59,522 --> 00:39:01,852 All right, sir, so I want you to tell me where to dig. 787 00:39:02,558 --> 00:39:03,887 Give me a sign. 788 00:39:07,827 --> 00:39:10,091 All right, can you show me where-- 789 00:39:10,126 --> 00:39:11,796 Uh, where you want to dig? 790 00:39:11,831 --> 00:39:13,831 I guess give me some animal indication 791 00:39:13,866 --> 00:39:15,569 or some sort. 792 00:39:16,803 --> 00:39:18,704 All right. So I'm going to keep walking. 793 00:39:18,739 --> 00:39:20,574 [Alice] Okay, that's interesting. 794 00:39:20,609 --> 00:39:25,645 ♪ 795 00:39:27,979 --> 00:39:29,946 All right, so I'm gett-- I'm getting-- [chuckles] 796 00:39:29,981 --> 00:39:32,949 I'm getting a flashback to someone getting, 797 00:39:32,984 --> 00:39:34,489 like, an attack over here. 798 00:39:34,524 --> 00:39:35,952 So there was some kind of-- 799 00:39:35,987 --> 00:39:39,054 [birds chirping] 800 00:39:39,089 --> 00:39:44,125 ♪ 801 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,193 All right, so just so you-- I mean, 802 00:39:46,228 --> 00:39:47,601 I'm going-- I'm just going to go there. 803 00:39:47,636 --> 00:39:48,965 -[Alice] Yeah. -Okay. 804 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,804 Um, so there was definitely tensions going on. 805 00:39:52,839 --> 00:39:54,674 Um, I think that there was-- 806 00:39:54,709 --> 00:39:58,172 there was an attack, maybe even, uh, something 807 00:39:58,207 --> 00:39:59,844 like a lynching of some sort 808 00:39:59,879 --> 00:40:01,681 that could have happened back here too. 809 00:40:01,716 --> 00:40:03,716 [animals screeching in distance] 810 00:40:03,751 --> 00:40:05,245 The animals responding to me is-- 811 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,620 means that that's the truth. 812 00:40:06,655 --> 00:40:09,755 [screeching continues] 813 00:40:16,929 --> 00:40:18,797 -[Jill] Jill. -[Sam] Nice to meet you, Sam. 814 00:40:18,832 --> 00:40:20,634 [Jill] It's nice to meet you, Sam. 815 00:40:22,671 --> 00:40:24,297 So, you've had a chance to kind of 816 00:40:24,332 --> 00:40:26,134 get your own vibe, what's going on? 817 00:40:26,169 --> 00:40:28,741 I feel like that the land is stained with blood. 818 00:40:28,776 --> 00:40:30,138 There's something out there 819 00:40:30,173 --> 00:40:31,810 that we should probably investigate. 820 00:40:32,241 --> 00:40:33,878 I am hearing 821 00:40:33,913 --> 00:40:36,617 a really super pitch high frequency. 822 00:40:36,652 --> 00:40:38,652 -Oh, me too. Yeah. -[Jill] Okay. 823 00:40:38,687 --> 00:40:40,687 [Jill] So, have you ever heard that before? 824 00:40:40,722 --> 00:40:43,657 I know you said static and I've heard that here before. 825 00:40:43,692 --> 00:40:45,153 Yeah, I heard-- when you said you heard it 826 00:40:45,188 --> 00:40:47,221 in that back room, I did, too. 827 00:40:47,256 --> 00:40:48,827 [Jill] You want to go check it out? 828 00:40:48,862 --> 00:40:50,323 -Yeah. -[Jill] Be careful 829 00:40:50,358 --> 00:40:52,798 because this is new for me. 830 00:40:53,801 --> 00:40:56,197 And see, it picks up in here. 831 00:40:56,232 --> 00:40:57,297 [Sam] Yep. 832 00:40:57,332 --> 00:40:59,574 [Jill] Okay. So, this is new. 833 00:41:01,204 --> 00:41:03,677 And I was trying to get my bearings. 834 00:41:04,911 --> 00:41:06,647 It does seem over the bed. 835 00:41:06,682 --> 00:41:08,583 -Yeah, it's over here. -[Jill] It's over the be-- 836 00:41:08,618 --> 00:41:10,277 It's like super loud over here. 837 00:41:10,312 --> 00:41:11,344 Over there. Yeah. 838 00:41:11,379 --> 00:41:12,653 I will say this thing 839 00:41:12,688 --> 00:41:14,050 wants to attach to one of us. 840 00:41:14,085 --> 00:41:15,623 There is a male 841 00:41:15,658 --> 00:41:16,921 and that's what he is trying to do. 842 00:41:16,956 --> 00:41:19,594 And it's odd you say that because I get it 843 00:41:19,629 --> 00:41:21,662 right outside the house, 844 00:41:21,697 --> 00:41:23,796 whereas the last time I was here, 845 00:41:23,831 --> 00:41:26,667 he was in the house and he was very unpleasant. 846 00:41:26,702 --> 00:41:28,361 [Sam] Right. Was he the murderer? 847 00:41:28,396 --> 00:41:29,934 Do you think that he's the one-- 848 00:41:29,969 --> 00:41:31,771 [Jill] I think he had something to do with it. 849 00:41:31,806 --> 00:41:34,103 And it's spending, what, a couple hours out in the back. 850 00:41:35,337 --> 00:41:37,238 It really gave me 851 00:41:37,273 --> 00:41:39,746 a good chance to pick up on-- 852 00:41:39,781 --> 00:41:43,343 there is a spirit of an enslaved person. 853 00:41:43,378 --> 00:41:44,916 Oh, my gosh. Okay, you're right. 854 00:41:44,951 --> 00:41:46,687 That's what I was picking up too. 855 00:41:46,722 --> 00:41:47,952 [Jill] So it is something-- 856 00:41:47,987 --> 00:41:49,217 [Steve] You actually said lynching. 857 00:41:49,252 --> 00:41:50,757 -[Sam] Yeah. -Yeah. 858 00:41:50,792 --> 00:41:52,385 And that's-- that's what I picked up on. 859 00:41:52,420 --> 00:41:54,156 And there's a-- I'll show you that. 860 00:41:54,191 --> 00:41:55,696 You got-- You did? [gasps] 861 00:41:55,731 --> 00:41:57,225 Okay, this is giving me chills. 862 00:41:57,260 --> 00:41:58,732 [Jill] Yeah. 863 00:41:59,834 --> 00:42:01,064 -Are you okay? -Yeah. 864 00:42:03,101 --> 00:42:04,166 Yeah. 865 00:42:08,271 --> 00:42:09,677 [Jill] Do you want to take a moment? 866 00:42:09,712 --> 00:42:11,877 Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. 867 00:42:13,815 --> 00:42:15,947 I just-- I sort of trusted myself 868 00:42:15,982 --> 00:42:17,850 because I did see that, but I was just like, 869 00:42:17,885 --> 00:42:20,116 I didn't want to go there, you know? 870 00:42:20,151 --> 00:42:21,216 Because it's so horrific. 871 00:42:21,251 --> 00:42:22,250 Like, who would do that 872 00:42:22,285 --> 00:42:23,691 to somebody else, you know? 873 00:42:24,958 --> 00:42:28,993 Working with Jill on this collaboration 874 00:42:29,028 --> 00:42:30,731 was awesome for me 875 00:42:30,766 --> 00:42:33,668 because I was able to get a confirmation 876 00:42:33,703 --> 00:42:35,032 for the things that I was picking up. 877 00:42:35,837 --> 00:42:39,036 He-- he is-- his spirit is very grateful. 878 00:42:39,709 --> 00:42:41,137 So just know that. 879 00:42:41,172 --> 00:42:44,371 [Sam] And I-- I want him to know and I want-- 880 00:42:44,406 --> 00:42:46,879 I want you to know that 881 00:42:46,914 --> 00:42:49,882 his story has been heard 882 00:42:49,917 --> 00:42:53,347 and he's no longer a man without a voice. 883 00:42:53,382 --> 00:42:55,855 He now has a voice and he can speak freely 884 00:42:55,890 --> 00:42:58,792 and hopefully he can move on to Heaven. 885 00:43:01,797 --> 00:43:03,390 -This is good, Alice. -[Jill] Yeah, yeah, 886 00:43:03,425 --> 00:43:06,701 it feels so whole... wholesome. 887 00:43:08,166 --> 00:43:10,430 -Healing? -[Sam] Healing, that's it. 888 00:43:10,465 --> 00:43:13,939 [night din] 889 00:43:17,274 --> 00:43:20,110 [digital whining] 890 00:43:24,347 --> 00:43:25,885 [Amy] I wanna do the full spectrum. 891 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,953 -[John] Yup. -[Amy] I'm gonna go in there? 892 00:43:28,824 --> 00:43:30,054 Oh, my God. 893 00:43:30,089 --> 00:43:32,221 -Where? -[John] Just on that chair. 894 00:43:33,356 --> 00:43:34,795 And then just do some-- 895 00:43:34,830 --> 00:43:35,961 just ask a question, see if you can 896 00:43:35,996 --> 00:43:37,358 get the [indistinct] to go off. 897 00:43:37,965 --> 00:43:40,867 [Amy] So, my name's Amy. And you know me. 898 00:43:40,902 --> 00:43:43,034 I've been coming to this house for years. 899 00:43:43,069 --> 00:43:45,036 [beeping] 900 00:43:47,271 --> 00:43:49,304 Hi. [sighs] 901 00:43:49,339 --> 00:43:50,778 [under breath] Oh, my God. 902 00:43:52,375 --> 00:43:53,913 Can you do that again? 903 00:43:56,478 --> 00:43:58,049 You know I don't like this room. 904 00:43:59,855 --> 00:44:00,986 [Brad] What's that noise? 905 00:44:01,021 --> 00:44:02,482 [John] Sounds like [indistinct]. 906 00:44:02,517 --> 00:44:04,022 [Brad] Which one? 907 00:44:05,553 --> 00:44:06,827 It's this one. 908 00:44:06,862 --> 00:44:10,193 [faint beeping] 909 00:44:13,462 --> 00:44:17,101 [Amy] Are you the spirit who made 910 00:44:17,136 --> 00:44:19,235 all that light 911 00:44:19,270 --> 00:44:21,941 happen with Alice 912 00:44:21,976 --> 00:44:23,844 when she was in this room? 913 00:44:26,508 --> 00:44:28,981 -[beeping] -[John] Put this one there. 914 00:44:30,248 --> 00:44:33,282 I know it's a lot we're asking of you 915 00:44:33,317 --> 00:44:35,515 and it takes a lot of energy 916 00:44:35,550 --> 00:44:37,121 to be able to communicate. 917 00:44:37,827 --> 00:44:40,157 But I really want you to try really hard. 918 00:44:40,192 --> 00:44:43,765 [low tense music] 919 00:44:45,901 --> 00:44:47,428 All right. We're going to walk out. 920 00:44:47,463 --> 00:44:52,873 ♪ 921 00:44:54,107 --> 00:44:55,403 [beeping] 922 00:44:55,438 --> 00:45:00,815 ♪ 923 00:45:04,183 --> 00:45:06,854 So, Alice is here with us tonight. 924 00:45:06,889 --> 00:45:10,253 And I know y'all really like having Alice come in. 925 00:45:14,930 --> 00:45:16,963 Can you all do something to show 926 00:45:16,998 --> 00:45:18,866 that you're happy Alice is here? 927 00:45:23,334 --> 00:45:25,906 What we want to do tonight is engage with you 928 00:45:25,941 --> 00:45:28,337 and understand who you are, what your name is 929 00:45:28,372 --> 00:45:30,977 and why you're attached to the house and the property. 930 00:45:31,012 --> 00:45:33,881 ♪ 931 00:45:33,916 --> 00:45:37,951 [metallic rustling] 932 00:45:37,986 --> 00:45:41,922 Is anyone here a victim of the fire? 933 00:45:47,358 --> 00:45:49,831 [Sabrina] Are you buried on this property? 934 00:45:50,966 --> 00:45:53,164 [Brad] Do you remember the fire in this town? 935 00:45:55,938 --> 00:45:57,531 Do you understand that this house, 936 00:45:57,566 --> 00:45:58,972 this-- this property, 937 00:45:59,007 --> 00:46:00,468 where we're standing at right now, 938 00:46:00,503 --> 00:46:02,305 this is Alice's home. 939 00:46:04,012 --> 00:46:05,880 You're not supposed to be here. 940 00:46:05,915 --> 00:46:08,344 [quiet rattling] 941 00:46:08,951 --> 00:46:10,280 [blipping] 942 00:46:12,647 --> 00:46:14,416 -What was that? -Did-- What happened? 943 00:46:14,451 --> 00:46:15,615 Did the light dim? 944 00:46:15,650 --> 00:46:17,254 I mean, something dimmed. 945 00:46:18,191 --> 00:46:21,093 Oh, I just thought something dimmed. 946 00:46:21,128 --> 00:46:22,523 I thought the room dimmed. 947 00:46:22,558 --> 00:46:27,935 [tense music] 948 00:46:29,136 --> 00:46:31,202 [John] Alice, they know your voice better than anybody. 949 00:46:31,237 --> 00:46:33,567 So, any-- any, anything you have. 950 00:46:33,602 --> 00:46:35,107 Ask. Just-- 951 00:46:36,275 --> 00:46:38,374 Okay, is there anybody here 952 00:46:38,409 --> 00:46:40,211 who's never been here before? 953 00:46:42,611 --> 00:46:45,018 Can you speak so that we can hear you? 954 00:46:47,990 --> 00:46:50,386 -[strong blipping] -[Brad] There you go. Ooh! 955 00:46:54,029 --> 00:46:55,490 [Brad] That's pretty interesting. 956 00:46:56,295 --> 00:46:57,525 [John] Yeah? 957 00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:58,933 [Brad] That was a pretty big hit, too. 958 00:46:58,968 --> 00:47:00,935 Three of the lights lit up. 959 00:47:02,664 --> 00:47:05,005 We appreciate any form of communication 960 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:06,633 -that you do. -[strong blipping]. 961 00:47:06,668 --> 00:47:08,206 -Like that. -[Brad] That's crazy. 962 00:47:11,277 --> 00:47:14,212 We're trying to uncover who you are... 963 00:47:15,512 --> 00:47:17,050 and how we can help you. 964 00:47:17,712 --> 00:47:18,986 [Sabrina] So weird. 965 00:47:19,021 --> 00:47:22,451 [eerie instrumental] 966 00:47:25,060 --> 00:47:26,554 [Amy] Should probably all sit down. 967 00:47:26,589 --> 00:47:28,061 [John] Alice. 968 00:47:29,493 --> 00:47:32,164 [Brad] And it's interesting that it's not going off 969 00:47:32,199 --> 00:47:33,935 now with Amy right next to it. 970 00:47:36,005 --> 00:47:37,268 [John] Walk over there again. 971 00:47:43,144 --> 00:47:44,638 Walk towards the back door, Amy. 972 00:47:44,673 --> 00:47:46,244 [Amy quietly] Okay. 973 00:47:47,049 --> 00:47:48,312 [John] You want her to go outside? 974 00:47:48,347 --> 00:47:49,742 -If you want her to go outsi-- -[beeping] 975 00:47:49,777 --> 00:47:51,051 -[Sabrina] Oh, look. -[Brad] Look how 976 00:47:51,086 --> 00:47:52,316 far away she is. 977 00:47:53,550 --> 00:47:55,253 Look how far away she is. 978 00:47:55,288 --> 00:47:56,551 [Sabrina] 'Kay, that's weird. 979 00:47:58,324 --> 00:48:01,358 [door creaking] 980 00:48:03,428 --> 00:48:07,133 [night din] 981 00:48:07,168 --> 00:48:08,728 All right, let's-- let's-- let's transition. 982 00:48:08,763 --> 00:48:10,268 Let's leave this here. 983 00:48:10,303 --> 00:48:11,698 Let's leave this room pot here in this chair, 984 00:48:11,733 --> 00:48:13,139 and we'll take the full spectrum camera. 985 00:48:13,174 --> 00:48:15,108 And we'll sit out in the backyard. 986 00:48:21,644 --> 00:48:24,612 [night din] 987 00:48:24,647 --> 00:48:30,024 ♪ 988 00:48:34,591 --> 00:48:37,394 [Brad] That's a very old tree. 989 00:48:40,399 --> 00:48:42,135 [Alice] It is. I thought I was... 990 00:48:43,501 --> 00:48:45,369 [indistinct] 991 00:48:45,404 --> 00:48:46,469 Right there. 992 00:48:47,076 --> 00:48:49,208 [strong blipping] 993 00:48:51,179 --> 00:48:52,475 [John] We're trying to figure out 994 00:48:52,510 --> 00:48:56,413 if there is a body buried in the ground-- 995 00:48:56,448 --> 00:48:57,711 [bird squawks] 996 00:48:57,746 --> 00:49:01,550 [night din] 997 00:49:11,826 --> 00:49:14,134 If you're buried here on the property, 998 00:49:14,169 --> 00:49:16,532 can you come up to this device 999 00:49:16,567 --> 00:49:18,072 and make it light up? 1000 00:49:19,768 --> 00:49:21,438 [Sabrina] Why is that cat digging? 1001 00:49:26,544 --> 00:49:27,576 It's interesting. 1002 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,417 All right, y'all, let's wrap it up 1003 00:49:33,452 --> 00:49:35,485 and let's head back into the house. 1004 00:49:38,820 --> 00:49:40,622 That does not include the kitty cat. 1005 00:49:41,592 --> 00:49:43,361 [Brad] No, cats stay here. 1006 00:49:45,860 --> 00:49:47,464 [Alice] Sure that cat's not hungry. 1007 00:49:47,499 --> 00:49:48,696 [Amy chuckles] Yeah. 1008 00:49:48,731 --> 00:49:53,602 ♪ 1009 00:49:54,671 --> 00:49:58,442 [Steve] So, guys, all of these red flags, right? 1010 00:49:58,477 --> 00:50:01,412 That red flag, the red flags, see 'em? 1011 00:50:02,712 --> 00:50:04,712 Those are all spots that 1012 00:50:04,747 --> 00:50:06,813 the ground-penetrating radar 1013 00:50:06,848 --> 00:50:08,683 detected that there could be 1014 00:50:08,718 --> 00:50:11,323 individual bodies or burials. 1015 00:50:11,358 --> 00:50:13,193 -Really? -Yeah. Yep. 1016 00:50:13,228 --> 00:50:16,856 Um, and even there, that red flag right there. 1017 00:50:16,891 --> 00:50:18,759 Now, the geophysicist 1018 00:50:18,794 --> 00:50:21,201 found spots right here. 1019 00:50:21,236 --> 00:50:24,138 She said that there could be a body. 1020 00:50:24,173 --> 00:50:26,371 -[Alice] Oh, my goodness. -Right here. 1021 00:50:26,406 --> 00:50:27,504 So-- 1022 00:50:28,573 --> 00:50:30,144 Just when it hits me, 1023 00:50:30,179 --> 00:50:31,508 the bodies is the most intriguing thing to me. 1024 00:50:31,543 --> 00:50:33,840 But it's-- so it's crazy, so you're telling me that 1025 00:50:33,875 --> 00:50:36,612 each red flag is a potential body? 1026 00:50:36,647 --> 00:50:38,218 Yeah. Yeah. 1027 00:50:38,517 --> 00:50:41,188 We had a geophysicist come here 1028 00:50:41,223 --> 00:50:43,157 and she marked some places that she thought 1029 00:50:43,192 --> 00:50:45,291 were possible burial sites. 1030 00:50:45,326 --> 00:50:47,293 We had ground-penetrating radar come 1031 00:50:47,328 --> 00:50:49,361 and he marked places that he thought 1032 00:50:49,396 --> 00:50:52,265 were possible unmarked graves. 1033 00:50:52,300 --> 00:50:54,465 You know, doing research with Mary Alice, 1034 00:50:54,500 --> 00:50:57,600 it does seem that this property could have been 1035 00:50:57,635 --> 00:50:59,899 part of all of these properties, honestly, 1036 00:50:59,934 --> 00:51:02,836 part of the original graveyard. 1037 00:51:02,871 --> 00:51:05,773 And that everything else was moved 1038 00:51:05,808 --> 00:51:08,314 but they just left the bodies. 1039 00:51:08,349 --> 00:51:10,448 You know, that-- that is a possible scenario. 1040 00:51:10,483 --> 00:51:12,714 So I wanted to see if Alice and the team 1041 00:51:12,749 --> 00:51:14,254 wanted to dig there. 1042 00:51:14,289 --> 00:51:15,750 And that, ethically, you know, 1043 00:51:15,785 --> 00:51:17,587 that's a bit of a gray area. 1044 00:51:17,622 --> 00:51:19,226 You know, should you shouldn't you? 1045 00:51:19,261 --> 00:51:20,887 But I thought it would be important 1046 00:51:20,922 --> 00:51:22,658 for a few different reasons. 1047 00:51:22,693 --> 00:51:25,364 One, if we found something, we could offer proper burial. 1048 00:51:25,399 --> 00:51:28,730 We could do things that could possibly get Alice 1049 00:51:28,765 --> 00:51:31,568 to feel better in terms of the phenomena happening here. 1050 00:51:31,603 --> 00:51:33,933 And maybe show Alice that it is something 1051 00:51:33,968 --> 00:51:36,738 that is human in nature, that it could have been 1052 00:51:36,773 --> 00:51:38,311 a person that was once alive. 1053 00:51:38,346 --> 00:51:40,544 And it's not as scary as it could be 1054 00:51:40,579 --> 00:51:43,316 if it was something that she couldn't put a face to. 1055 00:51:43,351 --> 00:51:45,582 If we did find any bodies 1056 00:51:45,617 --> 00:51:48,288 or any remnants of an old foundation or anything, 1057 00:51:48,323 --> 00:51:50,620 that there was a structure there at one point, 1058 00:51:50,655 --> 00:51:53,326 it would make her feel a little bit better. 1059 00:51:53,361 --> 00:51:55,658 If it's bodies that's more modern. 1060 00:51:55,693 --> 00:51:58,859 There's a chance there may be buried with personal items... 1061 00:51:59,697 --> 00:52:01,994 and a metal detector could possibly pick up 1062 00:52:02,029 --> 00:52:04,337 buttons or rings. 1063 00:52:04,372 --> 00:52:06,273 -It's just an idea. -[Steve] No, it's a good idea. 1064 00:52:06,308 --> 00:52:07,538 Actually, that's a great idea. 1065 00:52:07,573 --> 00:52:10,838 Because if you do find artifacts, right? 1066 00:52:10,873 --> 00:52:12,873 Like anything that looks like it belonged to a family... 1067 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,514 we can use those items as trigger objects. 1068 00:52:16,879 --> 00:52:19,286 Here's what we need to do is get the excavator over here 1069 00:52:19,321 --> 00:52:21,585 so we can start getting it into the ground. 1070 00:52:21,620 --> 00:52:23,752 And Alice, I can probably use your metal detector. 1071 00:52:23,787 --> 00:52:25,292 Yeah, you can. I still have it. 1072 00:52:25,327 --> 00:52:26,557 [Brad] Okay. Beautiful. 1073 00:52:26,592 --> 00:52:28,625 Brad, we'll get you metal detecting 1074 00:52:28,660 --> 00:52:31,463 and I'll go get shovels and gloves. 1075 00:52:31,498 --> 00:52:33,630 -[Brad] Let's get it! -Yeah. Let-- let's get started. 1076 00:52:33,665 --> 00:52:35,533 [whirring] 1077 00:52:35,568 --> 00:52:38,371 [upbeat strings & piano instrumental] 1078 00:52:39,968 --> 00:52:42,507 [Brad] I Just think there's no other location in the world 1079 00:52:42,542 --> 00:52:44,509 that investigates this hard, man. 1080 00:52:44,544 --> 00:52:49,580 ♪ 1081 00:52:56,919 --> 00:52:58,259 [Alice] Ah. 1082 00:52:58,525 --> 00:53:00,591 Hold on tight. All right. 1083 00:53:00,626 --> 00:53:05,662 ♪ 1084 00:53:14,068 --> 00:53:17,740 [beeping] 1085 00:53:17,775 --> 00:53:22,811 ♪ 1086 00:53:26,421 --> 00:53:29,917 [Alice speaking indistinctly] 1087 00:53:29,952 --> 00:53:35,362 ♪ 1088 00:53:38,433 --> 00:53:41,995 Even though I've lost the house to my personal use, 1089 00:53:42,030 --> 00:53:43,634 I do feel like I've done the right thing 1090 00:53:43,669 --> 00:53:45,933 by just opening it up to investigators. 1091 00:53:45,968 --> 00:53:47,704 I feel like at least, you know, someone's getting 1092 00:53:47,739 --> 00:53:50,377 some benefit out of it, which will be justified 1093 00:53:50,412 --> 00:53:52,071 in that something really will be found. 1094 00:53:52,106 --> 00:53:54,513 [street din] 1095 00:54:01,423 --> 00:54:03,588 [eerie music playing] 1096 00:54:03,623 --> 00:54:08,659 ♪ 1097 00:54:09,893 --> 00:54:11,332 Hey, buddy. 1098 00:54:11,862 --> 00:54:13,763 -What's up, man? -Hey, man. 1099 00:54:13,798 --> 00:54:15,028 [Dustin] How's it going? 1100 00:54:15,063 --> 00:54:16,964 I've known Dustin for many, many years. 1101 00:54:16,999 --> 00:54:20,407 And he's a great investigator. He's a good friend. 1102 00:54:20,442 --> 00:54:22,937 He's one of the most kind people 1103 00:54:22,972 --> 00:54:25,577 I've ever met and worked with. 1104 00:54:25,612 --> 00:54:27,711 I'm Dustin Perry. I'm a paranormal researcher. 1105 00:54:27,746 --> 00:54:30,648 I've been investigating for about 24 years. 1106 00:54:30,683 --> 00:54:32,045 I've traveled internationally. 1107 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:33,915 I've had opportunity to investigate 1108 00:54:33,950 --> 00:54:35,719 in 27 different countries. 1109 00:54:35,754 --> 00:54:38,920 The first impression of arriving at Alice's house 1110 00:54:38,955 --> 00:54:41,054 is it's very unassuming. 1111 00:54:41,089 --> 00:54:42,660 But I've learned over the years, 1112 00:54:42,695 --> 00:54:45,564 the places that look very unassuming often have 1113 00:54:45,599 --> 00:54:47,126 some interesting activity going on. 1114 00:54:47,161 --> 00:54:48,666 -[Steve] Dustin Perry. -[Dustin] Hey Alice. 1115 00:54:48,701 --> 00:54:50,437 -How are you? -[Alice] Hey! How are you? 1116 00:54:50,472 --> 00:54:51,801 [Dustin] I'm very well. I like to hug people. 1117 00:54:51,836 --> 00:54:53,737 Yeah, well this-- yeah this is Mississippi. 1118 00:54:53,772 --> 00:54:55,167 -We do too. -[Dustin] Alice's house 1119 00:54:55,202 --> 00:54:56,971 is very unique in the fact that 1120 00:54:57,006 --> 00:54:58,610 there's no other place like it 1121 00:54:58,645 --> 00:55:01,140 in terms of the amount of time 1122 00:55:01,175 --> 00:55:03,043 it's been allowed to be investigated. 1123 00:55:03,078 --> 00:55:05,815 For me, the paranormal is really a spiritual journey. 1124 00:55:05,850 --> 00:55:07,751 However, I try to look at things scientifically 1125 00:55:07,786 --> 00:55:10,556 to disprove and also to offer evidence 1126 00:55:10,591 --> 00:55:12,019 so people can understand. 1127 00:55:12,054 --> 00:55:17,431 ♪ 1128 00:55:24,935 --> 00:55:26,539 My name is Elizabeth Saint. 1129 00:55:26,574 --> 00:55:28,772 I have a background in electrical engineering. 1130 00:55:28,807 --> 00:55:31,742 I've been investigating the paranormal 10 years? 1131 00:55:31,777 --> 00:55:33,546 But it's always been a part of my life. 1132 00:55:33,581 --> 00:55:35,075 -Hey, how's it going? -Good. How are you? 1133 00:55:35,110 --> 00:55:36,879 -[Elizabeth] Good. I'm good. -[Steve] Oh, man! Thank you. 1134 00:55:36,914 --> 00:55:39,145 Elizabeth, I've known for quite some time. 1135 00:55:39,180 --> 00:55:40,784 I've actually never worked with her 1136 00:55:40,819 --> 00:55:43,787 but I know her background in electrical engineering. 1137 00:55:43,822 --> 00:55:46,526 I know that she likes to build equipment. 1138 00:55:46,561 --> 00:55:48,187 So, I thought it was really important to have 1139 00:55:48,222 --> 00:55:50,662 somebody come in that can build equipment 1140 00:55:50,697 --> 00:55:53,027 and tailor it to certain experiences, 1141 00:55:53,062 --> 00:55:54,831 to certain types of phenomena. 1142 00:55:55,603 --> 00:55:57,669 Having a background in electrical engineering 1143 00:55:57,704 --> 00:55:59,770 has actually been really advantageous 1144 00:55:59,805 --> 00:56:01,233 when I go on my investigations. 1145 00:56:01,268 --> 00:56:02,938 -Hi! -[Alice] I'm Alice. 1146 00:56:02,973 --> 00:56:04,808 -I'm Elizabeth. -[Alice] It's nice to meet you. 1147 00:56:04,843 --> 00:56:06,777 -It's great to meet you, too. -[Alice] Yeah, come on in. 1148 00:56:06,812 --> 00:56:08,713 [Elizabeth] You know, I look at things a little differently. 1149 00:56:08,748 --> 00:56:11,650 Like, it's exciting when you have an experience 1150 00:56:11,685 --> 00:56:14,653 but there's always this side of me 1151 00:56:14,688 --> 00:56:16,754 that is looking for another explanation. 1152 00:56:16,789 --> 00:56:18,690 I don't know a lot about you, of your equipment 1153 00:56:18,725 --> 00:56:19,790 and electrical stuff and all that. 1154 00:56:19,825 --> 00:56:21,187 But I think it's fascinating. 1155 00:56:21,222 --> 00:56:22,793 I would like to see 1156 00:56:22,828 --> 00:56:24,223 how it works and see what you get. 1157 00:56:24,258 --> 00:56:26,962 I think it's great that Alice is open 1158 00:56:26,997 --> 00:56:29,998 to the possibilities here of what could be going on. 1159 00:56:30,033 --> 00:56:33,705 You know, a lot of times you go to a residential location 1160 00:56:33,740 --> 00:56:35,542 and they already have it in their mind 1161 00:56:35,577 --> 00:56:37,104 what they think is going on. 1162 00:56:37,139 --> 00:56:39,942 It doesn't leave a lot of room for finding out real answers. 1163 00:56:40,747 --> 00:56:42,241 They're so wrapped up in the idea 1164 00:56:42,276 --> 00:56:44,045 that this is the haunted place and this happens 1165 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:45,585 and that happens. 1166 00:56:45,620 --> 00:56:47,884 And you can't possibly show them anything else. 1167 00:56:47,919 --> 00:56:51,118 Where here, Miss Alice and the team just want to know 1168 00:56:51,153 --> 00:56:52,185 what's causing these things. 1169 00:56:52,220 --> 00:56:53,593 Is it natural? 1170 00:56:53,628 --> 00:56:54,990 Is it some supernatural phenomenon? 1171 00:56:55,025 --> 00:56:57,058 Or-- It's nice that it's not like, "This is-- 1172 00:56:57,093 --> 00:56:59,258 There's a portal, there's a demon," and like, 1173 00:56:59,293 --> 00:57:01,161 you know, it goes down that-- that road. 1174 00:57:01,196 --> 00:57:02,767 Here, it's not like that. 1175 00:57:02,802 --> 00:57:04,604 People are just so excited to get the evidence. 1176 00:57:04,639 --> 00:57:06,606 And I am with you 100% on that. 1177 00:57:06,641 --> 00:57:08,069 Like, I am also very excited 1178 00:57:08,104 --> 00:57:10,808 but let's have it be real 1179 00:57:10,843 --> 00:57:12,645 so that we feel better about the work 1180 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:13,943 that we're doing in this field. 1181 00:57:16,244 --> 00:57:19,014 So this has an accelerometer inside 1182 00:57:19,049 --> 00:57:22,182 that pretty much is a center that monitors any movement. 1183 00:57:22,217 --> 00:57:26,593 [long beeping] 1184 00:57:29,257 --> 00:57:30,762 Do any of these balls ever move? 1185 00:57:30,797 --> 00:57:32,159 The ones that are back here? Yeah? 1186 00:57:32,194 --> 00:57:33,732 [Alice] Not from back there. Just-- 1187 00:57:33,767 --> 00:57:34,964 Yeah, when they're-- Just the stairwell? 1188 00:57:34,999 --> 00:57:36,295 [Alice] Yeah. 1189 00:57:36,330 --> 00:57:37,901 [Elizabeth] Other balls have moved, too? 1190 00:57:37,936 --> 00:57:39,672 Well, if-- if-- Whatever we asked, those-- 1191 00:57:39,707 --> 00:57:41,168 -Hello! -[Dustin] Hey, man! 1192 00:57:41,203 --> 00:57:42,576 -How's it going? -[Brad] Hey, hey! 1193 00:57:42,611 --> 00:57:43,777 -How you doing? Dustin. -Man. 1194 00:57:43,812 --> 00:57:45,645 -[Dustin] Good to see you. -[Brad] Good to see you, man. 1195 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:46,910 -What's up? -Nice to meet you. 1196 00:57:46,945 --> 00:57:48,241 -Nice to meet you as well-- -Hey! 1197 00:57:48,276 --> 00:57:49,814 -[Elizabeth] Hey! -How are you? 1198 00:57:49,849 --> 00:57:51,310 -[Elizabeth] Elizabeth. -I know who you are. 1199 00:57:51,345 --> 00:57:52,850 -So nice to meet you. -Nice to meet you, too. 1200 00:57:52,885 --> 00:57:54,654 Great to see you guys. 1201 00:57:54,689 --> 00:57:55,919 [Elizabeth] Something I love about Brad and John 1202 00:57:55,954 --> 00:57:57,283 is, honestly, they're so compelled 1203 00:57:57,318 --> 00:57:59,021 to find Alice answers. 1204 00:57:59,353 --> 00:58:02,189 When it comes to the equipment in the paranormal community, 1205 00:58:02,224 --> 00:58:03,960 it's very, very limited. 1206 00:58:04,666 --> 00:58:06,061 You have to understand, like, 1207 00:58:06,096 --> 00:58:09,702 these are items that are being mass produced for sale. 1208 00:58:10,034 --> 00:58:11,671 You know? 1209 00:58:11,706 --> 00:58:13,904 They're not sent data sheets on what kind of sensors 1210 00:58:13,939 --> 00:58:15,873 are involved inside the equipment. 1211 00:58:16,238 --> 00:58:18,073 You know, I kind of feel one of the biggest problems 1212 00:58:18,108 --> 00:58:20,944 with paranormal research is that everyone's always, 1213 00:58:20,979 --> 00:58:23,210 as I say, singing from the same hymnal. 1214 00:58:23,245 --> 00:58:24,750 You know, we get all these devices 1215 00:58:24,785 --> 00:58:26,246 and what do we do to make new ones? 1216 00:58:26,281 --> 00:58:28,083 We just put a new light on it. 1217 00:58:28,118 --> 00:58:30,954 You see some lights go off, you hear an alarm go off. 1218 00:58:30,989 --> 00:58:34,320 And you're like, "Ooh, ah," like, "There's something here." 1219 00:58:34,355 --> 00:58:35,926 But that's not the case. 1220 00:58:35,961 --> 00:58:37,290 You know, like, there's so many other factors 1221 00:58:37,325 --> 00:58:39,094 to take into consideration. 1222 00:58:39,129 --> 00:58:40,359 Or we combined, you know-- 1223 00:58:40,394 --> 00:58:41,833 "Now it has two features in one." 1224 00:58:41,868 --> 00:58:43,131 It's like, but it's really nothing new. 1225 00:58:43,166 --> 00:58:44,638 It's the same thing. 1226 00:58:44,673 --> 00:58:46,134 And I think that... 1227 00:58:47,335 --> 00:58:48,840 there has to be expansion 1228 00:58:48,875 --> 00:58:51,172 outside of the community to kind of understand 1229 00:58:51,207 --> 00:58:52,877 the tools that they're using. 1230 00:58:53,209 --> 00:58:55,176 And to also understand 1231 00:58:55,211 --> 00:58:56,683 all the false positives 1232 00:58:56,718 --> 00:58:58,311 that they are getting in the process. 1233 00:58:58,852 --> 00:59:00,852 Coming to the house, I did want to create 1234 00:59:00,887 --> 00:59:03,690 and-- and kind of customize things that made sense 1235 00:59:03,725 --> 00:59:05,956 to what you guys experience here, you know? 1236 00:59:05,991 --> 00:59:08,024 And everything that you documented before. 1237 00:59:08,763 --> 00:59:10,730 And, you know, I-- 1238 00:59:10,765 --> 00:59:13,425 I like to sometimes do things 1239 00:59:13,460 --> 00:59:15,834 that other people wouldn't necessarily do 1240 00:59:15,869 --> 00:59:17,297 just because if we don't try it, 1241 00:59:17,332 --> 00:59:18,903 we won't know what's going to work. 1242 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,400 I have great respect for Elizabeth Saint, 1243 00:59:21,435 --> 00:59:22,940 having known her over the years, 1244 00:59:22,975 --> 00:59:24,436 having traveled from, you know, 1245 00:59:24,471 --> 00:59:26,141 conventions and things together 1246 00:59:26,176 --> 00:59:28,341 and knowing that Elizabeth goes out of her way 1247 00:59:28,376 --> 00:59:30,079 to make specific equipment 1248 00:59:30,114 --> 00:59:32,246 like the light anomaly that's here. 1249 00:59:32,281 --> 00:59:36,019 This is the-- the light sensor I told you about. 1250 00:59:36,054 --> 00:59:38,857 So maybe if we do see any light anomalies, 1251 00:59:38,892 --> 00:59:40,925 we might be able to-- It'll let us know 1252 00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,796 by the color that it shines, essentially. 1253 00:59:43,831 --> 00:59:45,897 She developed something to look for those lights 1254 00:59:45,932 --> 00:59:47,899 and then to try to figure out which color lights it is. 1255 00:59:47,934 --> 00:59:49,769 And it lights up responsively. 1256 00:59:49,804 --> 00:59:50,935 And the most famous thing, 1257 00:59:50,970 --> 00:59:52,299 the ball moving down the stairs. 1258 00:59:52,334 --> 00:59:54,268 So she makes a ball that she can 1259 00:59:54,303 --> 00:59:55,874 measure any slight movement. 1260 00:59:55,909 --> 00:59:58,239 So, what's unique about this is, um, 1261 00:59:58,274 --> 00:59:59,405 I call it the comm sphere. 1262 00:59:59,979 --> 01:00:02,881 And it actually communicates with my phone. 1263 01:00:02,916 --> 01:00:06,280 The Y x or Z axis and it goes right to her software. 1264 01:00:06,315 --> 01:00:07,347 And it sends her an alert. 1265 01:00:07,382 --> 01:00:09,118 So it'll show me values 1266 01:00:09,153 --> 01:00:12,825 in the X, Y, Z direction, if it moves. 1267 01:00:12,860 --> 01:00:15,927 To have the passion to say, 1268 01:00:15,962 --> 01:00:17,423 "I'm doing this case. 1269 01:00:17,458 --> 01:00:19,128 What's the type of activity? 1270 01:00:19,163 --> 01:00:21,097 What can I make specifically that will speak 1271 01:00:21,132 --> 01:00:24,067 to trying to measure that type of activity?" 1272 01:00:24,102 --> 01:00:25,805 I mean, that's-- I have trouble 1273 01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:27,367 getting on the Wi-Fi sometimes. 1274 01:00:27,402 --> 01:00:29,105 She's like, light years above that. 1275 01:00:29,140 --> 01:00:32,075 So, I've known Dustin Perry for a few years now. 1276 01:00:32,110 --> 01:00:34,814 And we've always seen each other like, 1277 01:00:34,849 --> 01:00:36,310 on the road or, you know, 1278 01:00:36,345 --> 01:00:37,982 the-- the paranormal community 1279 01:00:38,017 --> 01:00:39,786 is very, like, tight knit community, 1280 01:00:39,821 --> 01:00:41,018 so we've always run into each other. 1281 01:00:41,053 --> 01:00:42,954 But I've never had the opportunity 1282 01:00:42,989 --> 01:00:45,484 to actually work with him, so I'm really excited 1283 01:00:45,519 --> 01:00:47,288 that I'll be able to do that here. 1284 01:00:47,323 --> 01:00:48,960 [Dustin] Um, Alice. 1285 01:00:48,995 --> 01:00:50,423 She seems to really embrace what's going on here, 1286 01:00:50,458 --> 01:00:53,162 which is odd because she also seems to be afraid of it. 1287 01:00:53,197 --> 01:00:55,901 And all I want to do is go upstairs and to the left. 1288 01:00:55,936 --> 01:00:57,199 Ever since I've walked in the house. 1289 01:00:57,234 --> 01:00:58,431 -Really? -[Dustin] Yeah. 1290 01:00:58,466 --> 01:00:59,465 When I first walked into the house, 1291 01:00:59,500 --> 01:01:00,532 I even told her that. 1292 01:01:00,567 --> 01:01:02,006 When I first walked in, 1293 01:01:02,041 --> 01:01:04,371 I was immediately drawn to that door frame. 1294 01:01:04,406 --> 01:01:05,845 Yeah, yeah, for sure. 1295 01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:07,275 Just based on years of experience 1296 01:01:07,310 --> 01:01:08,441 and feeling drawn to places 1297 01:01:08,476 --> 01:01:10,146 like that seems to be the place. 1298 01:01:10,181 --> 01:01:12,016 -[Elizabeth] Me too. Yeah. -[Dustin] So. 1299 01:01:14,152 --> 01:01:16,119 Just a couple of trip hazards here. 1300 01:01:16,154 --> 01:01:17,219 [Elizabeth] Yeah. 1301 01:01:17,254 --> 01:01:21,828 ♪ 1302 01:01:21,863 --> 01:01:23,060 [Dustin] It's interesting too, because we have 1303 01:01:23,095 --> 01:01:24,457 the three mirrors like you said here. 1304 01:01:24,492 --> 01:01:26,096 And then, there's another right there. 1305 01:01:26,131 --> 01:01:28,296 I was just trying to think for light purposes too 1306 01:01:28,331 --> 01:01:29,561 but if the door's closed, 1307 01:01:29,596 --> 01:01:30,903 she does have this-- What? 1308 01:01:30,938 --> 01:01:32,234 Is this is a balcony area? 1309 01:01:32,566 --> 01:01:33,906 I-- 1310 01:01:33,941 --> 01:01:35,138 [Dustin] But there's no road there. 1311 01:01:35,173 --> 01:01:36,403 So, you're not getting any, like, 1312 01:01:36,438 --> 01:01:37,338 car light coming in through there? 1313 01:01:37,373 --> 01:01:38,438 [Elizabeth] No. 1314 01:01:39,607 --> 01:01:41,980 Because I was just trying to think for bouncing light. 1315 01:01:42,015 --> 01:01:44,147 We are close to the road in the front. 1316 01:01:47,053 --> 01:01:48,250 [Dustin] Watch that wire. 1317 01:01:51,618 --> 01:01:53,321 [Elizabeth] It's just a-- a walk-in? 1318 01:01:56,557 --> 01:01:58,029 What's with all the mirrors? 1319 01:01:58,064 --> 01:01:59,459 There's one on the floor. 1320 01:02:00,198 --> 01:02:03,166 I don't know. There is a crawlspace. 1321 01:02:04,972 --> 01:02:06,202 -[Elizabeth] Oh, is there? -[Dustin] Yeah. 1322 01:02:09,339 --> 01:02:12,076 I-- I can't really open it. Stay right there. 1323 01:02:12,474 --> 01:02:14,012 Do you know if anyone's ever been? 1324 01:02:14,509 --> 01:02:16,212 No one's gone in the crawlspace? 1325 01:02:16,511 --> 01:02:18,247 We have to go in the crawlspace. 1326 01:02:18,282 --> 01:02:20,216 [Dustin] Yeah, we definitely have to go in the crawlspace. 1327 01:02:20,251 --> 01:02:21,954 -[Elizabeth] Is there asbestos? -[Dustin] Uh, no. That's uh-- 1328 01:02:21,989 --> 01:02:23,318 [Dustin] It was put in the 90s. That's pink. 1329 01:02:23,353 --> 01:02:25,089 -[Elizabeth] Oh, yeah. -[Dustin] Yeah. Oh. 1330 01:02:25,927 --> 01:02:27,289 [Elizabeth] What is it? 1331 01:02:27,324 --> 01:02:28,961 [Dustin] All my hair's just standing up there. 1332 01:02:28,996 --> 01:02:30,226 [Elizabeth gasps] It is. 1333 01:02:30,932 --> 01:02:32,591 Like, it just felt like something, like, grazed me 1334 01:02:32,626 --> 01:02:34,395 and I just looked down and everything... 1335 01:02:35,068 --> 01:02:36,298 [Elizabeth] That's so weird. 1336 01:02:36,333 --> 01:02:37,871 [Dustin] It still feels like more is going. 1337 01:02:38,632 --> 01:02:40,269 It's like you're about to get electrocuted. 1338 01:02:40,304 --> 01:02:41,875 -[Dustin chuckles] Right. -[Elizabeth] But right before, 1339 01:02:41,910 --> 01:02:43,107 you know, you get struck by lightning 1340 01:02:43,142 --> 01:02:44,570 -a lot of times your-- -Yeah. 1341 01:02:44,605 --> 01:02:45,879 -[Elizabeth] Hair will-- -Yeah, it all did. 1342 01:02:46,211 --> 01:02:47,408 [Elizabeth] Hair will stand up. 1343 01:02:48,114 --> 01:02:49,410 -That's odd. -[Elizabeth] It's weird 1344 01:02:49,445 --> 01:02:50,609 that no one's been in there. 1345 01:02:50,644 --> 01:02:52,050 [Dustin] I know, right? For sure. 1346 01:02:52,382 --> 01:02:53,986 Jeez. I'm breaking things. 1347 01:02:56,089 --> 01:02:57,616 It doesn't go too far back but I mean, 1348 01:02:57,651 --> 01:02:59,090 we could definitely sit in there and do, 1349 01:02:59,125 --> 01:03:00,355 like an EVP session or something. 1350 01:03:00,390 --> 01:03:03,094 -Yeah, I think we should. -[Dustin] Yeah. 1351 01:03:04,427 --> 01:03:05,866 [knocking] 1352 01:03:06,935 --> 01:03:09,199 If there's anybody here that could hear our voice, 1353 01:03:09,234 --> 01:03:12,268 are you able to communicate by just knocking for us? 1354 01:03:12,303 --> 01:03:13,467 [knock-knock-knock] 1355 01:03:13,502 --> 01:03:14,908 Can you do something like that? 1356 01:03:26,581 --> 01:03:27,646 How 'bout in here? 1357 01:03:27,681 --> 01:03:28,922 [knock-knock-knock] 1358 01:03:28,957 --> 01:03:30,154 [faint knock] 1359 01:03:30,684 --> 01:03:32,288 [Elizabeth] Well, you heard that, right? 1360 01:03:33,324 --> 01:03:34,928 It sounded like it was in this-- 1361 01:03:34,963 --> 01:03:36,589 -It sounded inside. -[Dustin] Yeah. 1362 01:03:36,624 --> 01:03:38,657 [ominous music] 1363 01:03:38,692 --> 01:03:39,933 Is that a woman's voice? 1364 01:03:40,969 --> 01:03:42,035 -[Elizabeth] I-- I heard a-- -I heard a knock. 1365 01:03:42,070 --> 01:03:44,201 It sounded like it was maybe like, a woman's voice 1366 01:03:44,236 --> 01:03:45,433 or something right before it. 1367 01:03:47,305 --> 01:03:48,370 [exhales] 1368 01:03:48,405 --> 01:03:50,306 This happens quick. 1369 01:03:52,046 --> 01:03:54,244 I think we get some good starting points of ideas 1370 01:03:54,279 --> 01:03:56,411 in terms of trying to do a focused investigation. 1371 01:03:56,446 --> 01:03:58,281 This area has already been pretty hot. 1372 01:03:58,316 --> 01:03:59,986 -[Brad] Yeah. -We've had knocks and response. 1373 01:04:00,021 --> 01:04:02,549 So, if we do a session in the crawlspace. 1374 01:04:02,584 --> 01:04:05,420 -Uh-huh. -Use your ion charger, 1375 01:04:05,455 --> 01:04:08,027 throw that in there for a while and then repeat the session. 1376 01:04:08,062 --> 01:04:09,589 Right. And see if there's a change. 1377 01:04:09,624 --> 01:04:11,426 -Yeah. -I think that's smart. 1378 01:04:11,461 --> 01:04:14,330 I used to have an ion generator in my bedroom when I was a kid. 1379 01:04:14,365 --> 01:04:16,431 It was like an air purifier and ion generator. 1380 01:04:16,730 --> 01:04:18,301 I don't know. My mom bought it on QVC. 1381 01:04:18,336 --> 01:04:20,402 -[Elizabeth] Okay. -But it was-- it was nice. 1382 01:04:21,372 --> 01:04:23,438 With ion motors, it's very interesting. 1383 01:04:23,473 --> 01:04:25,011 Like the one I have, 1384 01:04:25,046 --> 01:04:27,112 you can make it so it's producing positive 1385 01:04:27,147 --> 01:04:29,477 but you can also make it so it's producing negative ions. 1386 01:04:29,512 --> 01:04:31,116 And it's going to have a different feeling 1387 01:04:31,151 --> 01:04:32,216 and a different effect. 1388 01:04:32,251 --> 01:04:34,218 I did bring an ion motor, 1389 01:04:34,253 --> 01:04:37,056 but, um, the one I have is pretty serious. 1390 01:04:37,091 --> 01:04:38,486 Yeah? I love it! 1391 01:04:38,521 --> 01:04:41,126 "I don't want to brag but the ion motor I have--" 1392 01:04:41,161 --> 01:04:43,326 It's little but it packs a punch. 1393 01:04:44,065 --> 01:04:45,658 You're going to go out that way? 1394 01:04:45,693 --> 01:04:47,066 -[Brad] Yes. -[Dustin] Or not. 1395 01:04:47,101 --> 01:04:48,760 [Elizabeth laughs] 1396 01:04:48,795 --> 01:04:51,004 [Dustin] Which one will go to the garage? 1397 01:04:51,039 --> 01:04:52,500 I don't know which door's which. 1398 01:04:52,535 --> 01:04:53,732 It's like a labyrinth. 1399 01:04:53,767 --> 01:04:55,107 [Brad] [indistinct] show already. 1400 01:04:55,142 --> 01:04:56,075 [Dustin] Yeah. I go here, there. 1401 01:04:56,110 --> 01:04:57,373 [Brad chuckles] 1402 01:04:57,408 --> 01:04:59,441 [night din] 1403 01:05:04,679 --> 01:05:06,118 [Elizabeth] What's all this? 1404 01:05:07,253 --> 01:05:08,450 You guys digging out here? 1405 01:05:15,162 --> 01:05:16,425 Wait, stop for a second. 1406 01:05:17,263 --> 01:05:19,263 -Do you hear that? -[faint whistling] 1407 01:05:19,298 --> 01:05:21,232 -[Alice] What was it? -Someone's whistling. 1408 01:05:21,564 --> 01:05:23,234 [Alice] Oh, whistling? Yeah. 1409 01:05:23,764 --> 01:05:25,170 [Dustin] Hello? 1410 01:05:25,799 --> 01:05:28,173 [Dustin whistling] 1411 01:05:31,574 --> 01:05:32,607 That's what I heard. 1412 01:05:35,380 --> 01:05:37,050 -[Dustin] Well, let me get-- -There, there, there. 1413 01:05:37,085 --> 01:05:38,414 -[ghostly whistling] -You don't hear that? 1414 01:05:38,449 --> 01:05:39,745 -[Dustin] I heard it. -[Elizabeth] You did? 1415 01:05:39,780 --> 01:05:41,186 [Dustin] Yeah. 1416 01:05:41,716 --> 01:05:43,518 -It was the same tune. -[Dustin] Yeah. 1417 01:05:46,820 --> 01:05:48,358 [Elizabeth] That's so weird. 1418 01:05:54,168 --> 01:05:56,102 -Why that tune? -[Dustin] I know, right? 1419 01:05:56,137 --> 01:05:58,434 -Frère Jacques. -It is Frère Jacques. 1420 01:06:04,178 --> 01:06:05,573 [Dustin] Is there something moving back there? 1421 01:06:06,213 --> 01:06:07,575 [Brad] Totally noise to my right-- 1422 01:06:07,610 --> 01:06:09,280 [Elizabeth] It sounds like someone's walking. 1423 01:06:09,315 --> 01:06:10,248 [Brad] There's something just ran across there. 1424 01:06:10,283 --> 01:06:11,579 [receding footsteps] 1425 01:06:14,452 --> 01:06:17,156 I-- I saw something go like straight across. 1426 01:06:17,191 --> 01:06:20,093 [ominous music] 1427 01:06:20,128 --> 01:06:22,062 [Alice] It's a real person or what? 1428 01:06:22,889 --> 01:06:24,625 [Dustin] Oh, man. 1429 01:06:24,660 --> 01:06:26,660 [Alice] I heard a woman's voice over there a couple times. 1430 01:06:26,695 --> 01:06:28,530 [Dustin] You know, Alice, one thing I will say, though, 1431 01:06:28,565 --> 01:06:31,698 despite all the kind of touch and go, little bits of, 1432 01:06:31,733 --> 01:06:33,799 of activity even inside. 1433 01:06:33,834 --> 01:06:35,735 Like, I don't know, for me personally, 1434 01:06:35,770 --> 01:06:37,308 I don't feel anything that feels like, 1435 01:06:37,343 --> 01:06:39,541 threatening or-- or-- or angry in any way. 1436 01:06:39,576 --> 01:06:41,345 [Alice] My neighbor said-- she said all these [indistinct] 1437 01:06:41,380 --> 01:06:42,841 they like thinking she sees people. 1438 01:06:42,876 --> 01:06:44,414 She gets out there, there's nobody there. 1439 01:06:44,449 --> 01:06:46,548 There's no reading's, like, out here, 1440 01:06:46,583 --> 01:06:49,551 but out here we had this strange whistling. 1441 01:06:49,586 --> 01:06:51,289 -[Dustin] Yeah. -Sounded like people were 1442 01:06:51,324 --> 01:06:53,192 having conversation back there. 1443 01:06:53,689 --> 01:06:54,754 [Brad] Also a female voice. 1444 01:06:55,957 --> 01:06:59,462 [Elizabeth] Um, we heard, like, footsteps, it seems like. 1445 01:06:59,497 --> 01:07:01,563 You know, coming back tomorrow 1446 01:07:01,598 --> 01:07:03,499 with more equipment, 1447 01:07:03,534 --> 01:07:05,336 I will be curious to see 1448 01:07:05,371 --> 01:07:07,569 if it responds the same. 1449 01:07:07,604 --> 01:07:09,373 I'm thrilled that you came, both of you. 1450 01:07:09,408 --> 01:07:10,902 [Elizabeth] Yeah. Thank you for having us. 1451 01:07:10,937 --> 01:07:12,343 [Dustin] Thank you very much. We appreciate it. 1452 01:07:12,378 --> 01:07:15,379 Oh, yeah. It was our-- our pleasure. 1453 01:07:16,778 --> 01:07:18,151 [Brad] And we get to meet Jacques. 1454 01:07:18,186 --> 01:07:19,482 We have a new person on the team. 1455 01:07:19,517 --> 01:07:21,220 [Dustin] Yeah. Your little mascot. 1456 01:07:21,255 --> 01:07:22,518 [Brad] Helps us dig holes and stuff. 1457 01:07:22,949 --> 01:07:24,751 [Dustin] That's right. Dig and fill them. 1458 01:07:24,786 --> 01:07:27,424 [Brad] Yes. Yes. At least he's courteous. 1459 01:07:27,459 --> 01:07:29,129 [Dustin] Yeah, that's very nice. 1460 01:07:29,791 --> 01:07:32,396 [purposeful piano instrumental] 1461 01:07:32,431 --> 01:07:37,467 ♪ 1462 01:07:45,279 --> 01:07:46,509 [Morgan] Florence, 1463 01:07:46,544 --> 01:07:48,676 a small town in central Mississippi. 1464 01:07:49,811 --> 01:07:51,250 Maybe you've never heard of it. 1465 01:07:52,814 --> 01:07:54,286 It has history. 1466 01:07:54,717 --> 01:07:56,453 Some dark history as well. 1467 01:07:56,950 --> 01:07:58,686 There were outlaws here. 1468 01:07:59,359 --> 01:08:02,393 Bad men, charlatans, 1469 01:08:02,428 --> 01:08:04,362 those who would steal your money. 1470 01:08:04,826 --> 01:08:06,199 Those who would take your life. 1471 01:08:06,564 --> 01:08:09,268 And like most good stories, this story happens 1472 01:08:09,303 --> 01:08:11,270 long ago in a place far away. 1473 01:08:11,305 --> 01:08:12,733 Western South Carolina. 1474 01:08:13,307 --> 01:08:15,637 A ma'am named Nancy Lusk. 1475 01:08:15,969 --> 01:08:17,507 Her middle name was Agnes. 1476 01:08:17,542 --> 01:08:19,212 And I believe she actually went by Agnes. 1477 01:08:19,247 --> 01:08:21,511 She was born in a time of war. 1478 01:08:21,546 --> 01:08:23,513 She came of age in the events 1479 01:08:23,548 --> 01:08:25,680 leading up to the American Revolution. 1480 01:08:26,452 --> 01:08:27,946 She was 19 years old. 1481 01:08:27,981 --> 01:08:29,849 She warred-- married a man named William Steen. 1482 01:08:30,555 --> 01:08:31,950 William Steen will actually fight 1483 01:08:31,985 --> 01:08:33,358 in the American Revolution 1484 01:08:33,393 --> 01:08:34,854 at the Battle of Kings Mountain. 1485 01:08:34,889 --> 01:08:38,297 So about 1810, William decides to take his family West 1486 01:08:38,332 --> 01:08:40,431 into the new Mississippi territory, 1487 01:08:40,466 --> 01:08:42,400 where the land is rich and fertile. 1488 01:08:42,798 --> 01:08:43,962 During this interval, 1489 01:08:43,997 --> 01:08:45,568 one of these mules comes up missing. 1490 01:08:45,603 --> 01:08:47,669 So he goes out looking for his mule 1491 01:08:47,704 --> 01:08:48,769 and he never returns. 1492 01:08:50,641 --> 01:08:52,839 It was believed that he might have been killed 1493 01:08:52,874 --> 01:08:54,346 by the Native Americans 1494 01:08:54,381 --> 01:08:55,941 who still claim this land as their own. 1495 01:08:55,976 --> 01:08:57,877 But nobody really knows for certain. 1496 01:08:57,912 --> 01:08:59,615 But nonetheless, he never returns. 1497 01:08:59,650 --> 01:09:02,453 And so Agnes is now the matriarch of the family 1498 01:09:02,488 --> 01:09:04,818 and she and the rest for grown children 1499 01:09:04,853 --> 01:09:06,820 push on and complete the journey. 1500 01:09:07,493 --> 01:09:08,888 And they settle here. 1501 01:09:08,923 --> 01:09:10,527 And since they settle, first settlers, 1502 01:09:10,562 --> 01:09:12,364 it becomes known as Steen's Creek. 1503 01:09:12,696 --> 01:09:15,433 Uh, by the turn of the 20th century, 1504 01:09:15,468 --> 01:09:17,633 this area has been known as Steen Creek for a while. 1505 01:09:18,306 --> 01:09:20,504 And there's a new rail line coming through. 1506 01:09:21,474 --> 01:09:22,968 They're going to build a railroad track 1507 01:09:23,003 --> 01:09:25,542 from the Gulf Coast up into the capital city of Jackson, 1508 01:09:25,577 --> 01:09:26,873 a few miles north of here. 1509 01:09:26,908 --> 01:09:29,007 Uh, one gentleman, Mr. Ellis, 1510 01:09:29,042 --> 01:09:31,614 will donate the land for the depot 1511 01:09:31,649 --> 01:09:32,582 on one condition. 1512 01:09:32,617 --> 01:09:35,288 He wants that depot named after his wife. 1513 01:09:35,818 --> 01:09:38,456 Willing to take the free land, whatever they can, 1514 01:09:38,491 --> 01:09:41,360 the depot is actually named Florence Depot 1515 01:09:41,395 --> 01:09:43,362 rather than Steen's Creek. 1516 01:09:46,433 --> 01:09:48,026 Most of American history and again, 1517 01:09:48,061 --> 01:09:49,500 the history of the world is made-- 1518 01:09:49,535 --> 01:09:50,831 It's been a man's world. 1519 01:09:51,405 --> 01:09:53,372 The men take the credit and are the kings. 1520 01:09:53,407 --> 01:09:55,066 They're the soldiers, they're the ones that go off 1521 01:09:55,101 --> 01:09:57,607 and everybody raves about them. 1522 01:09:57,642 --> 01:10:00,511 But back there in-- Behind them in the shadows 1523 01:10:00,546 --> 01:10:02,040 have always been the women 1524 01:10:02,075 --> 01:10:04,581 making sure the farm is still running, 1525 01:10:04,616 --> 01:10:07,584 making sure there's food still heading out to the front, 1526 01:10:07,619 --> 01:10:10,455 making sure the hard decisions are being made. 1527 01:10:10,919 --> 01:10:13,722 The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world. 1528 01:10:16,364 --> 01:10:18,826 And now it's 1905. 1529 01:10:19,367 --> 01:10:20,531 We're going to build a city. 1530 01:10:20,566 --> 01:10:21,796 What are we going to call it? 1531 01:10:21,831 --> 01:10:24,370 And I suspect, I don't know for certain, 1532 01:10:24,405 --> 01:10:25,932 but I suspect by this time a lot of people 1533 01:10:25,967 --> 01:10:27,604 had started referring to it 1534 01:10:27,639 --> 01:10:29,540 by the name of the Depot, Florence. 1535 01:10:29,575 --> 01:10:31,740 And the City of Florence was born. 1536 01:10:31,775 --> 01:10:35,073 Founded by a woman and named for a woman. 1537 01:10:35,108 --> 01:10:40,485 ♪ 1538 01:10:42,852 --> 01:10:45,083 [Steve] Mary Alice? Hi. 1539 01:10:45,118 --> 01:10:47,118 [both laughing] 1540 01:10:47,153 --> 01:10:49,461 I, uh-- I have these for you. 1541 01:10:49,892 --> 01:10:52,563 Um, thank you for making time 1542 01:10:52,598 --> 01:10:54,631 to meet with us again. 1543 01:10:54,666 --> 01:10:56,699 We've had really incredible researchers 1544 01:10:56,734 --> 01:10:58,833 do a deep dive with some of the Steen history. 1545 01:10:58,868 --> 01:11:01,902 Florence husband, C Ellis... 1546 01:11:01,937 --> 01:11:04,674 [John] And, um, they found some old photographs. 1547 01:11:04,709 --> 01:11:07,578 [Mary Alice] Gave the land to the railroad company. 1548 01:11:07,613 --> 01:11:11,076 The Steen family is a very-- Well, the Steen name 1549 01:11:11,111 --> 01:11:14,046 is a very, very well known name 1550 01:11:14,081 --> 01:11:15,487 in the Florence area. 1551 01:11:15,522 --> 01:11:16,917 In fact, there's a lot of streets named 1552 01:11:16,952 --> 01:11:18,688 Steen this, Steen that, 1553 01:11:18,723 --> 01:11:20,019 Steen Creek. 1554 01:11:20,054 --> 01:11:23,429 [Steve] Do you think Mr. Steen 1555 01:11:23,464 --> 01:11:25,629 or Mrs. Steen 1556 01:11:25,664 --> 01:11:28,434 has anything to do with the haunting here? 1557 01:11:29,998 --> 01:11:33,868 I don't know if the Steens have anything to do 1558 01:11:33,903 --> 01:11:35,474 with the haunting here. 1559 01:11:35,509 --> 01:11:38,873 We have had some EVP's with Henry. 1560 01:11:38,908 --> 01:11:41,975 Henry Steen is somebody that I've called out, 1561 01:11:42,010 --> 01:11:43,449 uh, to several times. 1562 01:11:43,484 --> 01:11:46,012 We've captured an EVP voice recording 1563 01:11:46,047 --> 01:11:48,146 that did say Henry, obviously. 1564 01:11:48,181 --> 01:11:51,688 And Henry Steen is one Steen families. 1565 01:11:52,526 --> 01:11:54,460 [Brad] Can you tell us what your name is? 1566 01:11:55,529 --> 01:11:56,891 [male voice] Henry. 1567 01:11:57,564 --> 01:11:59,432 You know, there is definitely a-- 1568 01:11:59,467 --> 01:12:02,633 a pattern of the male, whether it's the apparition, 1569 01:12:02,668 --> 01:12:03,931 whether it's the voice. 1570 01:12:03,966 --> 01:12:09,002 ♪ 1571 01:12:15,043 --> 01:12:17,615 Hearing Henry kind of validates 1572 01:12:17,650 --> 01:12:19,815 and kind of puts things in perspective. 1573 01:12:20,246 --> 01:12:22,620 So that's possible. 1574 01:12:23,018 --> 01:12:25,788 There is a lot of Henrys in the world, though. 1575 01:12:26,252 --> 01:12:28,527 [birds tweeting] 1576 01:12:29,761 --> 01:12:31,431 [dog barks] 1577 01:12:38,506 --> 01:12:40,506 [beeping] 1578 01:12:42,576 --> 01:12:43,806 That's interesting. 1579 01:12:44,710 --> 01:12:47,480 It's not metal but it's fabric of some kind. 1580 01:12:48,714 --> 01:12:49,614 So... 1581 01:12:50,717 --> 01:12:53,684 I found this while the detector picked up the metal. 1582 01:12:53,719 --> 01:12:55,752 What's interesting even more to me, 1583 01:12:55,787 --> 01:12:57,556 this looks like it's some kind of fabric. 1584 01:12:57,591 --> 01:13:00,823 [determined music] 1585 01:13:00,858 --> 01:13:03,529 It's really kind-- It's really sensitive. 1586 01:13:03,564 --> 01:13:06,125 Oh. Oh, yeah. 1587 01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:07,665 [Alice] It's hard to tell. 1588 01:13:07,700 --> 01:13:11,130 [speaking over each other] 1589 01:13:11,165 --> 01:13:12,637 [Brad] Be very gentle. 1590 01:13:15,169 --> 01:13:18,071 [motor whirring] 1591 01:13:24,112 --> 01:13:26,486 [John] Oh! Oh! 1592 01:13:27,753 --> 01:13:30,622 But what's intriguing about, about what this object is 1593 01:13:30,657 --> 01:13:32,822 is the fact that it was so deep. 1594 01:13:32,857 --> 01:13:35,154 [Alice] Well, does it feel like [indistinct]? 1595 01:13:36,058 --> 01:13:37,926 Oh, it's even got a-- Oh, my goodness. What's it say? 1596 01:13:37,961 --> 01:13:39,290 [Brad] Oh, it's got something fancy on it. 1597 01:13:39,325 --> 01:13:40,764 Oh, it's got letters on it. 1598 01:13:41,195 --> 01:13:42,667 [Alice] Because it is [indistinct]. 1599 01:13:47,168 --> 01:13:48,640 Right there underneath. 1600 01:13:49,203 --> 01:13:51,269 [beeping] 1601 01:13:51,304 --> 01:13:52,611 There you go, Sabrina. 1602 01:13:52,646 --> 01:13:55,680 [beeping continues] 1603 01:14:01,952 --> 01:14:04,183 [Sabrina] It's almost like a fake. 1604 01:14:04,218 --> 01:14:06,251 [beeping] 1605 01:14:06,286 --> 01:14:11,927 ♪ 1606 01:14:25,074 --> 01:14:26,106 [Brad] That's weird. 1607 01:14:26,944 --> 01:14:28,944 -It's definitely metal. -[Sabrina] Yeah. 1608 01:14:31,278 --> 01:14:32,684 [Brad clears throat] 1609 01:14:34,215 --> 01:14:35,918 Oh, boy. Is that jewelry? 1610 01:14:35,953 --> 01:14:39,086 [Steve] I think so, it might be a ring. 1611 01:14:42,223 --> 01:14:43,761 [beeping] 1612 01:14:45,226 --> 01:14:46,632 68. 1613 01:14:47,195 --> 01:14:49,228 Silver usually rings around 70. 1614 01:14:49,263 --> 01:14:50,702 I'm not saying it's silver, but-- 1615 01:14:50,737 --> 01:14:52,968 [indistinct talking] 1616 01:14:57,711 --> 01:14:58,908 [John] It's an odd shape. 1617 01:15:04,410 --> 01:15:06,718 [Steve] We didn't find any evidence of bodies 1618 01:15:06,753 --> 01:15:08,687 in the ground or old structures. 1619 01:15:08,722 --> 01:15:11,250 So, that makes sense that at one time 1620 01:15:11,285 --> 01:15:13,219 there were graves back there 1621 01:15:13,254 --> 01:15:15,221 but the bodies have been removed. 1622 01:15:15,256 --> 01:15:16,959 And that's what the ERI survey said, 1623 01:15:16,994 --> 01:15:19,632 that there are unmarked graves there 1624 01:15:19,667 --> 01:15:22,602 but the bodies just aren't there anymore. 1625 01:15:23,066 --> 01:15:25,000 [night din] 1626 01:15:25,035 --> 01:15:29,708 ♪ 1627 01:15:31,404 --> 01:15:34,108 [Elizabeth] I-- I set up some environmental sensors for us. 1628 01:15:34,143 --> 01:15:35,274 [Dustin] Uh-huh. 1629 01:15:36,410 --> 01:15:38,981 And I'm going to be monitoring temperature, pressure. 1630 01:15:39,016 --> 01:15:41,687 And also, I-- I do have a magnetic coil 1631 01:15:41,722 --> 01:15:43,821 that I've wired up to an amplifier, 1632 01:15:43,856 --> 01:15:46,285 and I just put it on the walking stick. 1633 01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:47,627 I felt like there was... 1634 01:15:48,830 --> 01:15:50,828 Atmospheric data has always been really important to me 1635 01:15:50,863 --> 01:15:52,258 on any investigation I do 1636 01:15:52,293 --> 01:15:54,260 because I have found correlations 1637 01:15:54,295 --> 01:15:56,328 between a change in the environment 1638 01:15:56,363 --> 01:15:59,034 with paranormal activity happening. 1639 01:15:59,069 --> 01:16:00,739 I'm not saying that that's a ghost. 1640 01:16:00,774 --> 01:16:03,709 But what I am saying is that there are weird, 1641 01:16:03,744 --> 01:16:06,008 interesting things that sometimes take place 1642 01:16:06,043 --> 01:16:07,911 when you see a dip in the data. 1643 01:16:07,946 --> 01:16:10,111 And I always find that to be fascinating. 1644 01:16:12,346 --> 01:16:14,181 -Nice. -Ta-da. 1645 01:16:14,216 --> 01:16:15,787 We look great. 1646 01:16:16,185 --> 01:16:17,448 Oh, my gosh. 1647 01:16:17,483 --> 01:16:19,186 -[Elizabeth] I look crazed. -[Dustin laughs] 1648 01:16:20,827 --> 01:16:22,728 All right, so I brought a Theremin, 1649 01:16:22,763 --> 01:16:25,731 um, which is an old school instrument. 1650 01:16:25,766 --> 01:16:27,293 So, if we could wire the door. 1651 01:16:27,328 --> 01:16:30,032 But we're going to extend the range of it, right? 1652 01:16:30,067 --> 01:16:31,770 [Elizabeth] Yeah, so I think by, like, 1653 01:16:31,805 --> 01:16:33,398 extending the antenna out. 1654 01:16:33,433 --> 01:16:35,037 -[Dustin] Uh-huh. -And since the-- 1655 01:16:35,072 --> 01:16:37,402 We both when we first arrived here, 1656 01:16:37,437 --> 01:16:39,041 we were drawn to this door frame. 1657 01:16:39,076 --> 01:16:40,713 -[Dustin] Yeah. -So I think that 1658 01:16:40,748 --> 01:16:42,374 by creating a threshold. 1659 01:16:42,409 --> 01:16:45,476 So, if any, like, subtle energy comes in, 1660 01:16:45,511 --> 01:16:47,115 the hope is that it sets off the Theremin. 1661 01:16:47,150 --> 01:16:49,051 [Dustin] Right. That would be great. 1662 01:16:50,923 --> 01:16:53,825 So, we're just wrapping the copper wire 1663 01:16:53,860 --> 01:16:56,487 around the, uh, pitch antenna of the Theremin, here. 1664 01:16:56,522 --> 01:16:58,929 So, this would be normally how you control 1665 01:16:58,964 --> 01:17:01,426 the, uh-- the pitch sound by moving your hand closer. 1666 01:17:01,461 --> 01:17:02,900 Completely experimental. 1667 01:17:02,935 --> 01:17:04,330 Not sure if it's going to work. 1668 01:17:04,365 --> 01:17:07,069 But if it does, that would be really interesting. 1669 01:17:11,812 --> 01:17:14,241 [Dustin] It's just good to continue to try new things. 1670 01:17:16,509 --> 01:17:17,915 [Elizabeth] So... 1671 01:17:20,249 --> 01:17:21,347 [quietly] Now we'll see. 1672 01:17:21,987 --> 01:17:23,822 -[Elizabeth gasps] -Yeah? 1673 01:17:23,857 --> 01:17:25,384 So now it's working because normally 1674 01:17:25,419 --> 01:17:27,188 you have to be touching that. 1675 01:17:28,158 --> 01:17:29,223 Go, go in the door. 1676 01:17:30,798 --> 01:17:32,160 -[Elizabeth] Oh. -[Dustin] Yeah. 1677 01:17:32,195 --> 01:17:33,865 That time it worked. Yeah. That time it worked. 1678 01:17:33,900 --> 01:17:35,196 -[Elizabeth] That worked. -[Dustin] So it is-- 1679 01:17:35,231 --> 01:17:36,428 It's building up and getting the whole thing. 1680 01:17:36,463 --> 01:17:37,968 -Yeah. -[Dustin] Yeah-- 1681 01:17:38,003 --> 01:17:39,266 -Oh, see! Can you hear it? -[Dustin] Yup. 1682 01:17:39,301 --> 01:17:40,773 -[gasps] -That's a lot of fun. 1683 01:17:40,808 --> 01:17:42,170 [Elizabeth] Oh, that's so fun. 1684 01:17:43,536 --> 01:17:45,074 I love science. 1685 01:17:45,109 --> 01:17:46,779 [both laughing] 1686 01:17:46,814 --> 01:17:48,209 I like it. That's great. 1687 01:17:49,014 --> 01:17:50,475 The science community isn't open 1688 01:17:50,510 --> 01:17:52,543 to the idea of the paranormal. 1689 01:17:52,578 --> 01:17:55,854 And unfortunately, the paranormal community 1690 01:17:55,889 --> 01:17:58,549 isn't viewed as-- 1691 01:17:58,584 --> 01:18:00,859 It's not taken seriously. Like, that's a problem. 1692 01:18:00,894 --> 01:18:02,960 We're just not taken seriously. 1693 01:18:04,161 --> 01:18:05,930 I've always thought it was interesting 1694 01:18:05,965 --> 01:18:09,197 that for some reason people think science 1695 01:18:09,232 --> 01:18:12,266 and spirituality have to butt heads. 1696 01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:14,906 You know, the fact that research scientists 1697 01:18:14,941 --> 01:18:17,007 would be afraid to speak to somebody about something 1698 01:18:17,042 --> 01:18:19,845 of a spiritual nature or paranormal nature, 1699 01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:21,506 I think shows that divide. 1700 01:18:21,541 --> 01:18:23,981 And that divide is-- is a problem. 1701 01:18:24,016 --> 01:18:26,016 I would love to get to a place where the field's 1702 01:18:26,051 --> 01:18:28,579 taken more seriously, because not only do I think 1703 01:18:28,614 --> 01:18:30,152 the paranormal community is missing out 1704 01:18:30,187 --> 01:18:31,582 but I also feel like the science community 1705 01:18:31,617 --> 01:18:33,023 is missing out. 1706 01:18:33,058 --> 01:18:34,552 [Dustin] Do the initial run in here. 1707 01:18:34,587 --> 01:18:36,895 Yeah, I think yesterday-- What? 1708 01:18:37,557 --> 01:18:38,897 [Dustin] I got too close to it. 1709 01:18:38,932 --> 01:18:40,294 -[Elizabeth] Okay. -[Dustin laughs] 1710 01:18:40,329 --> 01:18:42,901 But this is interesting because if something-- 1711 01:18:42,936 --> 01:18:44,903 This doorway seems to be an active spot 1712 01:18:44,938 --> 01:18:46,465 so if something decides to walk through here, 1713 01:18:46,500 --> 01:18:48,203 we should be able to hear it. 1714 01:18:49,239 --> 01:18:50,568 So we're going to do an experiment. 1715 01:18:50,603 --> 01:18:52,174 [Dustin] All right. Very good. 1716 01:18:52,209 --> 01:18:54,308 So first we're going to do an initial session. 1717 01:18:55,146 --> 01:18:56,343 [rapid beeping] 1718 01:18:56,378 --> 01:18:59,181 Everything's beeping. Did you touch the door? 1719 01:18:59,216 --> 01:19:00,248 [Elizabeth] No. 1720 01:19:00,283 --> 01:19:05,418 ♪ 1721 01:19:05,453 --> 01:19:07,959 [Dustin] I have to keep an ear out for both these things. 1722 01:19:09,556 --> 01:19:12,997 [rapid rattling] 1723 01:19:14,528 --> 01:19:17,067 I'm just going to baseline this meter. 1724 01:19:17,102 --> 01:19:18,266 Uh-huh. 1725 01:19:19,236 --> 01:19:21,907 Hello. This is Elizabeth and Dustin. 1726 01:19:22,635 --> 01:19:24,470 If you're able to communicate with us 1727 01:19:24,505 --> 01:19:26,274 or maybe let us hear your voice. 1728 01:19:26,672 --> 01:19:28,947 Try to speak into this device here. 1729 01:19:30,016 --> 01:19:31,312 We may be able to hear you. 1730 01:19:31,347 --> 01:19:36,383 ♪ 1731 01:19:43,260 --> 01:19:46,030 Dustin to, uh, the team out in the tech tent. 1732 01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:47,966 Can you see if anybody is walking 1733 01:19:48,001 --> 01:19:50,331 in the DVR cameras downstairs? 1734 01:19:52,005 --> 01:19:54,038 -[Brad] Nobody's walking. -[radio static] 1735 01:19:54,535 --> 01:19:57,976 Okay, so... timestamp. 1736 01:20:00,607 --> 01:20:03,278 [distant muffled thumping] 1737 01:20:04,413 --> 01:20:05,544 You hear that? 1738 01:20:05,579 --> 01:20:10,989 [night din] 1739 01:20:16,722 --> 01:20:20,163 Can you tell us what road the house is on? 1740 01:20:22,530 --> 01:20:24,398 Is there a name you like to go by? 1741 01:20:27,139 --> 01:20:29,942 What's the object on the stairs that you move? 1742 01:20:35,708 --> 01:20:38,115 -[indistinct] out here. -[Dustin] All right. 1743 01:20:40,251 --> 01:20:42,350 [whirring] 1744 01:20:43,716 --> 01:20:45,683 Pardon me, young lady. 1745 01:20:45,718 --> 01:20:47,025 [Elizabeth over recorder] Is there a name 1746 01:20:47,060 --> 01:20:48,257 you like to go by? 1747 01:20:50,195 --> 01:20:51,722 [Dustin on recorder] What's the object on the stairs 1748 01:20:51,757 --> 01:20:53,031 that you move? 1749 01:20:53,066 --> 01:20:54,461 [faint voice] 1750 01:20:55,002 --> 01:20:57,563 -Oh! Did you hear that? -[Elizabeth] I did! 1751 01:20:57,598 --> 01:20:59,301 [Dustin] Oh, that's awesome! 1752 01:20:59,336 --> 01:21:01,303 Wow. 1753 01:21:01,338 --> 01:21:03,272 [Dustin on recorder] What's the object on the stairs 1754 01:21:03,307 --> 01:21:04,006 that you move? 1755 01:21:04,041 --> 01:21:05,439 [voice faintly] Baseball. 1756 01:21:05,474 --> 01:21:07,474 Oh! That's so good. 1757 01:21:08,312 --> 01:21:10,312 I think he says "Baseball". 1758 01:21:10,347 --> 01:21:12,149 [Elizabeth over speaker] Yeah, right? 1759 01:21:12,547 --> 01:21:14,184 Crazy that baseball was said. 1760 01:21:14,219 --> 01:21:15,713 [Dustin] Right. For sure. 1761 01:21:15,748 --> 01:21:18,518 How much is that collectively us 1762 01:21:18,553 --> 01:21:19,618 -knowing? -[Dustin] Right. 1763 01:21:20,192 --> 01:21:23,226 Maybe after we charge it up, 1764 01:21:23,261 --> 01:21:25,063 we ask those questions again. 1765 01:21:25,098 --> 01:21:26,724 -The same exact ones. -[Dustin] Yeah. 1766 01:21:26,759 --> 01:21:28,264 [Elizabeth] And see if there's a change. 1767 01:21:28,299 --> 01:21:29,694 And then maybe we should throw in another question 1768 01:21:29,729 --> 01:21:31,366 that we don't know the answer to. 1769 01:21:31,764 --> 01:21:35,040 [Elizabeth] I did bring an ion motor 1770 01:21:35,075 --> 01:21:36,602 that actually creates and generates 1771 01:21:36,637 --> 01:21:38,175 its own positive force field. 1772 01:21:38,210 --> 01:21:40,243 But it's a-- it's a pretty serious one. 1773 01:21:41,741 --> 01:21:43,543 Could be potentially dangerous. 1774 01:21:43,578 --> 01:21:45,149 [laughs] I don't know, 1775 01:21:45,184 --> 01:21:46,711 but I want to change the environment. 1776 01:21:46,746 --> 01:21:48,251 I want to see what it's like before. 1777 01:21:48,286 --> 01:21:50,451 And I want to see if you induce anything else 1778 01:21:50,486 --> 01:21:53,685 in the environment, if that also creates a change. 1779 01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:56,391 If activity increases. 1780 01:21:57,361 --> 01:21:58,294 I can smell it. 1781 01:22:01,563 --> 01:22:05,037 Can you tell me what street this house is on? 1782 01:22:08,438 --> 01:22:10,669 Can you tell us the name of the woman that lives here? 1783 01:22:10,704 --> 01:22:12,176 The woman that built this house? 1784 01:22:15,313 --> 01:22:16,774 [Elizabeth] Can you tell us what's going on 1785 01:22:16,809 --> 01:22:19,018 with the lights inside this house? 1786 01:22:21,550 --> 01:22:24,419 [Dustin] What is the object on the stairs that you move? 1787 01:22:26,819 --> 01:22:28,819 Two gentlemen that have investigated here 1788 01:22:28,854 --> 01:22:31,393 for 12, 13, 14 years. 1789 01:22:32,264 --> 01:22:34,033 Do you know either of their names? 1790 01:22:38,303 --> 01:22:40,534 [Elizabeth over recorder] Can you tell me what street 1791 01:22:40,569 --> 01:22:41,634 this house is on? 1792 01:22:41,669 --> 01:22:45,143 [faint crackling] 1793 01:22:45,178 --> 01:22:46,672 [Dustin over recorder] Could you tell us the name-- 1794 01:22:46,707 --> 01:22:48,608 I think he says "White Road." 1795 01:22:48,643 --> 01:22:50,808 [Elizabeth over recorder] Can you tell me what street 1796 01:22:50,843 --> 01:22:52,117 this house is on? 1797 01:22:52,152 --> 01:22:54,185 [faint crackling] 1798 01:22:54,220 --> 01:22:55,417 [distorted voice] 1799 01:22:55,452 --> 01:22:57,551 Yeah. It says, "White Road." 1800 01:22:57,586 --> 01:22:58,816 [Elizabeth over recorder] ...what street 1801 01:22:58,851 --> 01:23:00,092 this house is on? 1802 01:23:00,127 --> 01:23:02,424 [faint cracking] 1803 01:23:02,459 --> 01:23:03,689 -[voice] White Road. -[Dustin exhales] 1804 01:23:03,724 --> 01:23:04,822 [Dustin] ...the name 1805 01:23:04,857 --> 01:23:06,329 of the woman that lives here? 1806 01:23:06,364 --> 01:23:07,726 -The woman that built house? -What? 1807 01:23:07,761 --> 01:23:09,200 [Dustin] Can you tell us the name of the 1808 01:23:09,235 --> 01:23:10,366 woman that lives here? 1809 01:23:10,401 --> 01:23:11,767 The woman that built this house? 1810 01:23:11,803 --> 01:23:13,468 [Elizabeth over recorder] Can you tell us what's going on-- 1811 01:23:13,503 --> 01:23:14,436 Yikes. 1812 01:23:14,471 --> 01:23:15,833 [Dustin over recorder] What is the object 1813 01:23:15,868 --> 01:23:17,505 on the stairs that you move? 1814 01:23:17,540 --> 01:23:18,605 [faint voice] 1815 01:23:19,344 --> 01:23:20,640 He just said, "Ball" that time, yeah. 1816 01:23:20,675 --> 01:23:22,246 He just said, "Ball." 1817 01:23:22,281 --> 01:23:23,841 [Dustin over recorder] Two gentlemen that have 1818 01:23:23,876 --> 01:23:26,547 investigated here for 12, 13, 14 years. 1819 01:23:26,582 --> 01:23:28,219 Do you know either of their names? 1820 01:23:28,914 --> 01:23:30,188 [faint voice] 1821 01:23:30,223 --> 01:23:31,486 Did he say, "Jack?" 1822 01:23:32,357 --> 01:23:33,620 [Elizabeth] So now we're going to do 1823 01:23:33,655 --> 01:23:35,160 something a little different 1824 01:23:35,195 --> 01:23:38,592 and we're going to show you some cards. 1825 01:23:38,627 --> 01:23:40,198 Here is the first card. 1826 01:23:40,233 --> 01:23:41,529 Can you tell us what you see? 1827 01:23:41,564 --> 01:23:44,235 [eerie music] 1828 01:23:44,270 --> 01:23:46,468 We're going to show you the second card. 1829 01:23:47,174 --> 01:23:48,569 Tell us what you see. 1830 01:23:51,178 --> 01:23:54,113 Is it a number or is it a face card? 1831 01:23:57,250 --> 01:23:58,645 Here's the third card. 1832 01:24:01,650 --> 01:24:02,682 What color is it? 1833 01:24:04,917 --> 01:24:06,323 What number? 1834 01:24:09,757 --> 01:24:11,394 [Dustin] Putting down card three. 1835 01:24:13,794 --> 01:24:16,135 I'm going to show you card four, now. 1836 01:24:18,535 --> 01:24:21,536 Can you tell me what card Dustin is holding? 1837 01:24:27,940 --> 01:24:29,709 [Dustin] Putting down card four. 1838 01:24:29,744 --> 01:24:31,414 [Elizabeth over recorder] Here is the first card. 1839 01:24:31,449 --> 01:24:32,745 Can you tell us what you see? 1840 01:24:32,780 --> 01:24:35,451 [faint crackling] 1841 01:24:35,486 --> 01:24:37,354 We're going to show you the second card. 1842 01:24:37,389 --> 01:24:38,718 Tell us what you see. 1843 01:24:39,820 --> 01:24:41,688 [Dustin] I think he says it's four. 1844 01:24:41,723 --> 01:24:43,789 [Elizabeth over recorder] What color is it? 1845 01:24:43,824 --> 01:24:45,593 -What number? -[faint voice] 1846 01:24:45,628 --> 01:24:46,891 [both] Six. 1847 01:24:46,926 --> 01:24:49,267 -It literally said, "Six." -It's crazy. 1848 01:24:49,302 --> 01:24:50,664 [Elizabeth over recorder] I'm going to show you 1849 01:24:50,699 --> 01:24:52,270 card four, now. 1850 01:24:52,305 --> 01:24:54,272 Can you tell me what card Dustin is holding? 1851 01:24:54,307 --> 01:24:55,570 [faint voice] 1852 01:24:55,968 --> 01:24:57,539 [Dustin] Red ten? 1853 01:24:58,839 --> 01:25:01,279 [Elizabeth] But we got to play this again because-- 1854 01:25:01,314 --> 01:25:03,578 -[Dustin] This is ridiculous. -[Elizabeth] Bizarre. 1855 01:25:04,911 --> 01:25:07,483 I've never had 1856 01:25:07,518 --> 01:25:09,221 a communication response like, 1857 01:25:09,256 --> 01:25:10,717 with this blind study thing 1858 01:25:10,752 --> 01:25:12,389 that seemed to go that well. 1859 01:25:12,424 --> 01:25:14,292 No, but let's back off for a second 1860 01:25:14,327 --> 01:25:15,689 because it wasn't just that. 1861 01:25:15,724 --> 01:25:17,328 Like at the end, 1862 01:25:17,363 --> 01:25:19,297 we re-asked the same questions 1863 01:25:19,332 --> 01:25:21,662 -and we got clearer responses. -Clearer answers. 1864 01:25:21,697 --> 01:25:22,729 Oh, crap. 1865 01:25:26,372 --> 01:25:28,207 [Dustin] Yeah. White Road. Alice. 1866 01:25:28,539 --> 01:25:30,308 Said something about their names. 1867 01:25:30,343 --> 01:25:31,639 I couldn't pick it up. I thought it said, "Jack." 1868 01:25:32,543 --> 01:25:33,608 [Brad] Jack. 1869 01:25:36,679 --> 01:25:38,514 [John] Heard, "White Road." I heard, "Alice." 1870 01:25:38,549 --> 01:25:39,977 -[Alice] Oh, they did? -I heard white-- 1871 01:25:40,012 --> 01:25:41,649 They got "White Road," they got, "Alice." 1872 01:25:41,684 --> 01:25:43,552 White Road, damn. That's where I live. 1873 01:25:43,587 --> 01:25:45,323 I mean, damn, that's getting personal. 1874 01:25:46,623 --> 01:25:48,623 [Elizabeth over recorder] Here's the third card. 1875 01:25:48,658 --> 01:25:50,427 What color is it? 1876 01:25:50,462 --> 01:25:51,989 -What number? -[faint voice] 1877 01:25:52,024 --> 01:25:54,563 [Elizabeth] Six. That you hear very clearly. 1878 01:25:54,598 --> 01:25:57,368 -[Dustin] Six, six. -[Alice] Did he say, "Six?" 1879 01:25:57,403 --> 01:25:58,996 Getting direct responses to the card-- 1880 01:25:59,031 --> 01:26:00,064 [Alice] [indistinct]. 1881 01:26:01,638 --> 01:26:03,572 [Elizabeth over recorder] Here's the third card. 1882 01:26:03,607 --> 01:26:05,475 -What color is it? -[faint voice] 1883 01:26:05,510 --> 01:26:06,938 -[Elizabeth] What number? -[both] Red six. 1884 01:26:06,973 --> 01:26:08,643 [Elizabeth] Six. 1885 01:26:08,678 --> 01:26:10,007 [Elizabeth over recorder] I'm going to show you 1886 01:26:10,042 --> 01:26:11,349 card four now. 1887 01:26:11,384 --> 01:26:12,680 -That's so wild. -This is insane. 1888 01:26:12,715 --> 01:26:14,352 [Elizabeth] Can you tell me what card 1889 01:26:14,387 --> 01:26:15,452 -Dustin is holding? -[faint voice] 1890 01:26:15,487 --> 01:26:16,618 Red ten. 1891 01:26:16,653 --> 01:26:18,488 But you don't really get the impact of it 1892 01:26:18,523 --> 01:26:21,524 because it's like-- you know, there's a conscious being, 1893 01:26:21,559 --> 01:26:25,264 invisible-- invisible, conscious being in your room. 1894 01:26:25,695 --> 01:26:27,365 I mean, really, that's a little unnerving. 1895 01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:28,762 I mean, really, you just go take a shower. 1896 01:26:28,797 --> 01:26:30,599 You think, "Who is watching me take a shower?" 1897 01:26:30,634 --> 01:26:32,469 I mean, really, you do, because something's there. 1898 01:26:32,504 --> 01:26:34,273 Some-- something's there. 1899 01:26:36,838 --> 01:26:38,002 Last time we got baseball, 1900 01:26:38,037 --> 01:26:39,476 which was great by itself. 1901 01:26:39,511 --> 01:26:40,972 -[Elizabeth] Right. -But now it was 1902 01:26:41,007 --> 01:26:42,545 every question pretty much had an answer, every card-- 1903 01:26:42,580 --> 01:26:43,975 Even if we couldn't make it out. 1904 01:26:44,010 --> 01:26:45,416 Yeah. 1905 01:26:45,451 --> 01:26:47,451 -The cards are wild, though. -Yeah. 1906 01:26:47,486 --> 01:26:49,387 [Dustin] Yeah, like, it just-- it just blows my mind. 1907 01:26:49,422 --> 01:26:52,049 Of all the years doing this, like I've never had-- 1908 01:26:52,084 --> 01:26:54,018 I mean, you're lucky if you get an EVP. 1909 01:26:54,053 --> 01:26:56,526 [laughs] It's still pretty good. 1910 01:26:56,990 --> 01:26:59,958 So much more could be found out, 1911 01:26:59,993 --> 01:27:01,828 explored, experimented with. 1912 01:27:01,863 --> 01:27:04,930 You know, if we were just open to the idea 1913 01:27:04,965 --> 01:27:07,471 of incorporating science into the mix. 1914 01:27:07,506 --> 01:27:09,836 I think one of the nice things about the Mississippi house 1915 01:27:09,871 --> 01:27:12,707 of Alice's house is it allows for that to happen. 1916 01:27:13,138 --> 01:27:15,446 Because it's been documented long enough 1917 01:27:15,481 --> 01:27:18,350 where it's not just some crazy story. 1918 01:27:18,385 --> 01:27:20,550 I think that's the-- the nice thing about it. 1919 01:27:21,751 --> 01:27:23,784 [night din] 1920 01:27:25,623 --> 01:27:26,721 [knocking] 1921 01:27:29,594 --> 01:27:30,659 Hello. 1922 01:27:30,958 --> 01:27:32,430 [Laurie] My name's Laurie McDonald. 1923 01:27:32,465 --> 01:27:34,432 I'm a certified clinical hypnotherapist 1924 01:27:34,467 --> 01:27:37,996 at True You Hypnotherapy in Sacramento, California. 1925 01:27:38,735 --> 01:27:41,505 So, you tell me where you want me. 1926 01:27:41,540 --> 01:27:44,101 [Laurie] So my purpose in coming here 1927 01:27:44,136 --> 01:27:46,906 is to facilitate a process 1928 01:27:46,941 --> 01:27:48,974 that will allow Alice 1929 01:27:49,009 --> 01:27:50,712 to feel that sense of ease 1930 01:27:50,747 --> 01:27:54,584 and to be able to take possession of her own home. 1931 01:27:54,619 --> 01:27:59,622 ♪ 1932 01:28:01,494 --> 01:28:02,955 We'll begin 1933 01:28:02,990 --> 01:28:04,825 the way I always begin 1934 01:28:04,860 --> 01:28:07,597 by just having you take some long, deep 1935 01:28:07,632 --> 01:28:10,028 rhythmic breaths in through the nose 1936 01:28:10,063 --> 01:28:11,634 and out through the mouth. 1937 01:28:12,901 --> 01:28:14,164 And in a moment, 1938 01:28:14,199 --> 01:28:15,902 I'm going to count backwards. 1939 01:28:16,740 --> 01:28:20,005 Ten, seven. Twice as deep now. 1940 01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:23,514 On five, on three... 1941 01:28:24,649 --> 01:28:25,714 two... 1942 01:28:26,211 --> 01:28:27,650 and one. 1943 01:28:28,785 --> 01:28:30,752 We're going to go back to a time 1944 01:28:30,787 --> 01:28:32,523 when you awoke 1945 01:28:32,558 --> 01:28:35,757 and saw a very specific light. 1946 01:28:35,792 --> 01:28:36,989 See that now. 1947 01:28:38,531 --> 01:28:41,026 It-- it-- it came on with a-- 1948 01:28:41,061 --> 01:28:43,600 With a flash in an instant. 1949 01:28:44,064 --> 01:28:47,571 I just, totally unexpected. 1950 01:28:48,673 --> 01:28:51,201 Everything else in the room was black. 1951 01:28:51,236 --> 01:28:54,006 Total black. Very black. 1952 01:28:55,812 --> 01:28:58,043 What if it turns toward me? What happens? 1953 01:28:58,078 --> 01:28:59,847 I mean, it-- it-- 1954 01:29:00,179 --> 01:29:01,717 And what is its purpose? 1955 01:29:04,150 --> 01:29:06,524 [stuttering] 1956 01:29:06,559 --> 01:29:08,790 That-- I just happened to be there. 1957 01:29:08,825 --> 01:29:11,727 I don't think it-- its intent was to appear to me. 1958 01:29:11,762 --> 01:29:14,829 Do you sense in this light... 1959 01:29:15,568 --> 01:29:16,930 -intelligence? -[Alice] Uh-huh. 1960 01:29:18,263 --> 01:29:20,197 Not that the light's conscious 1961 01:29:20,232 --> 01:29:21,671 but that the... 1962 01:29:22,707 --> 01:29:24,509 governing of the light is. 1963 01:29:24,544 --> 01:29:26,038 So, the light's coming from a source? 1964 01:29:26,073 --> 01:29:27,237 Yeah. 1965 01:29:27,272 --> 01:29:30,944 Just, uh-- just intelligence, like-- 1966 01:29:31,243 --> 01:29:33,716 like intelligent, um... 1967 01:29:36,050 --> 01:29:38,556 beings, maybe a group. 1968 01:29:39,691 --> 01:29:43,627 Or something they're-- they're intently interested in. 1969 01:29:45,994 --> 01:29:47,796 Sense into the light 1970 01:29:47,831 --> 01:29:50,128 and try to sense 1971 01:29:50,163 --> 01:29:51,965 their intent. 1972 01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:57,036 ♪ 1973 01:30:02,813 --> 01:30:04,109 [Alice] Whatever they were doing, 1974 01:30:04,144 --> 01:30:06,848 it seemed very important. 1975 01:30:06,883 --> 01:30:09,851 It's like they were all gathered around. 1976 01:30:13,219 --> 01:30:16,825 observing something beneath the earth. 1977 01:30:17,564 --> 01:30:19,256 Who's the outcome important to? 1978 01:30:19,291 --> 01:30:20,862 -[Alice] To them. -To them. 1979 01:30:22,668 --> 01:30:25,262 And is there anything else 1980 01:30:25,297 --> 01:30:27,869 about this particular light 1981 01:30:27,904 --> 01:30:30,971 that we need to know about or you're... 1982 01:30:33,140 --> 01:30:34,678 pretty comfortable? 1983 01:30:38,651 --> 01:30:40,046 [Alice] Yeah. I'm-- I'm-- I'm-- 1984 01:30:41,819 --> 01:30:44,985 Yeah, I think the light was just a means, 1985 01:30:45,020 --> 01:30:47,856 that there was no particular meaning. 1986 01:30:48,188 --> 01:30:50,155 I'm very, very happy to hear that. 1987 01:30:50,190 --> 01:30:53,290 Because you are removed from it 1988 01:30:53,325 --> 01:30:54,830 from this moment forward 1989 01:30:54,865 --> 01:30:56,766 and for the rest of your life... 1990 01:30:57,329 --> 01:30:58,768 removed from it. 1991 01:30:58,803 --> 01:31:00,902 Through eliminating fear, 1992 01:31:00,937 --> 01:31:04,301 we're opening up other avenues of energy, 1993 01:31:04,336 --> 01:31:05,940 like curiosity. 1994 01:31:06,338 --> 01:31:07,876 And that's much healthier 1995 01:31:07,911 --> 01:31:10,340 and puts her in a place of personal empowerment. 1996 01:31:10,375 --> 01:31:12,848 So, I want you to take a really deep breath now. 1997 01:31:14,379 --> 01:31:17,556 -Just really exhale. -[exhales sharply] 1998 01:31:18,284 --> 01:31:20,218 And I want you to really feel 1999 01:31:20,253 --> 01:31:22,660 how good it is to know 2000 01:31:22,695 --> 01:31:25,091 that you don't have to be afraid of that anymore. 2001 01:31:27,161 --> 01:31:28,292 And let it all go. 2002 01:31:28,327 --> 01:31:31,361 [emotional piano instrumental] 2003 01:31:31,396 --> 01:31:33,033 And how does that feel? 2004 01:31:35,675 --> 01:31:37,642 I-- I do feel, um, 2005 01:31:37,677 --> 01:31:40,238 separated more from it. 2006 01:31:40,273 --> 01:31:43,307 So, coming back now on one, 2007 01:31:43,342 --> 01:31:45,980 two, taking a deep breath on three. 2008 01:31:46,851 --> 01:31:49,016 Wiggling the toes on four. 2009 01:31:49,051 --> 01:31:51,689 -[Alice] Uh-huh. -[Laurie] Eyes open five. 2010 01:31:52,153 --> 01:31:54,659 -Okay. -[Laurie] Very good. 2011 01:31:56,421 --> 01:31:58,289 [Steve] I mean, the ultimate goal here 2012 01:31:58,324 --> 01:32:00,830 is to get Alice comfortable in the house, 2013 01:32:00,865 --> 01:32:02,326 to get her to stay here. 2014 01:32:02,361 --> 01:32:03,734 It would be awesome 2015 01:32:03,769 --> 01:32:05,164 if she could live here full time. 2016 01:32:05,199 --> 01:32:06,363 But right now, 2017 01:32:06,398 --> 01:32:08,035 she's not living here full time. 2018 01:32:08,070 --> 01:32:10,708 Obviously, she won't even sleep here alone at night. 2019 01:32:10,743 --> 01:32:12,974 But I want to take it in steps, if I can. 2020 01:32:13,009 --> 01:32:15,713 If we can get her in the house for a night 2021 01:32:15,748 --> 01:32:17,275 and then maybe that one night 2022 01:32:17,310 --> 01:32:18,848 will turn into a few nights. 2023 01:32:18,883 --> 01:32:21,114 And maybe the few nights will turn into a week. 2024 01:32:21,149 --> 01:32:22,412 That week becomes a month 2025 01:32:22,447 --> 01:32:24,689 and now she's in the house full time. 2026 01:32:24,724 --> 01:32:26,383 Tonight, anyway, 2027 01:32:26,418 --> 01:32:29,694 I wanted to get your feeling... 2028 01:32:30,455 --> 01:32:33,258 uh, on-- on, uh-- on the house 2029 01:32:33,293 --> 01:32:35,425 and on where we're sort of at. 2030 01:32:35,460 --> 01:32:37,394 Well, we spoke to the team 2031 01:32:37,429 --> 01:32:40,232 and they're, you know, on standby 2032 01:32:40,267 --> 01:32:42,333 in case you're okay with this. 2033 01:32:42,368 --> 01:32:45,336 But we are wondering if maybe tonight 2034 01:32:45,371 --> 01:32:46,876 might be a night you might be 2035 01:32:46,911 --> 01:32:48,911 willing to sleep in the house. 2036 01:32:48,946 --> 01:32:51,375 You know, I've actually been thinking about that 2037 01:32:51,410 --> 01:32:53,212 since the hypnosis 2038 01:32:53,247 --> 01:32:55,016 because for some reason, 2039 01:32:55,051 --> 01:32:56,886 you know, it wasn't what I expected. 2040 01:32:56,921 --> 01:32:59,383 I expected that I would have to relive that experience 2041 01:32:59,418 --> 01:33:01,319 but it wasn't that at all. 2042 01:33:01,354 --> 01:33:03,420 You know, it was actually 2043 01:33:03,455 --> 01:33:05,730 getting out of that experience. 2044 01:33:05,765 --> 01:33:09,195 And so I feel like I can watch it 2045 01:33:09,230 --> 01:33:10,427 from a distance. 2046 01:33:10,462 --> 01:33:11,967 -[Steve] That's interesting. -Yeah. 2047 01:33:12,002 --> 01:33:13,738 You know, I'll sleep with my flashlight 2048 01:33:13,773 --> 01:33:15,333 and, um, I'm good. 2049 01:33:15,368 --> 01:33:17,203 -I'll-- I'll try to do it. -[Steve] You're thinking-- 2050 01:33:17,238 --> 01:33:18,435 -Uh-huh. -[Steve] Really? 2051 01:33:18,470 --> 01:33:19,777 I think that she knows that this is 2052 01:33:19,812 --> 01:33:21,779 the first step for her 2053 01:33:21,814 --> 01:33:24,309 to be able to live in the house 2054 01:33:24,344 --> 01:33:26,949 and be able to be here full time. 2055 01:33:26,984 --> 01:33:28,852 I don't necessarily think that, you know, 2056 01:33:28,887 --> 01:33:30,788 the activity is going to fully stop. 2057 01:33:30,823 --> 01:33:33,450 And if we weren't able to ever get her 2058 01:33:33,485 --> 01:33:35,056 back inside the house, 2059 01:33:35,091 --> 01:33:37,729 I wouldn't consider that a failure. 2060 01:33:37,764 --> 01:33:39,192 She has so much more confidence 2061 01:33:39,227 --> 01:33:41,865 and I think that that's a major stepping stone. 2062 01:33:42,230 --> 01:33:44,234 [piano instrumental] 2063 01:33:48,104 --> 01:33:49,367 I'm on speed dial. 2064 01:33:49,402 --> 01:33:51,237 [Alice] Oh, you're so sweet. Thank you. 2065 01:33:51,272 --> 01:33:56,275 ♪ 2066 01:33:56,310 --> 01:34:00,719 [crickets chirping] 2067 01:34:03,053 --> 01:34:04,415 [indistinct] 2068 01:34:04,450 --> 01:34:06,351 I'll see you all hopefully in the morning. 2069 01:34:06,386 --> 01:34:07,418 [Kendall] Okay. 2070 01:34:07,453 --> 01:34:12,889 ♪ 2071 01:34:16,968 --> 01:34:20,431 [indistinct chatter] 2072 01:34:20,466 --> 01:34:25,876 ♪ 2073 01:34:55,270 --> 01:35:00,306 ♪ 2074 01:35:11,286 --> 01:35:12,318 Oh, yeah. 2075 01:35:12,859 --> 01:35:15,090 [indistinct chatter] 2076 01:35:15,125 --> 01:35:20,161 ♪ 2077 01:35:24,563 --> 01:35:26,937 [birds chirp] 2078 01:35:26,972 --> 01:35:32,008 ♪ 2079 01:35:42,614 --> 01:35:45,021 [John] You know, she slept in the house. 2080 01:35:45,419 --> 01:35:46,517 She slept in the house. 2081 01:35:47,091 --> 01:35:48,959 In a decade, she hadn't done that. 2082 01:35:48,994 --> 01:35:51,390 The thing I remember is the next morning, 2083 01:35:51,425 --> 01:35:54,426 walking in the door and just smelling coffee. 2084 01:35:55,165 --> 01:35:58,067 She was waking up, making coffee in her house. 2085 01:35:58,102 --> 01:36:00,102 That just hit me in a different way. 2086 01:36:00,137 --> 01:36:01,202 It was neat. 2087 01:36:07,276 --> 01:36:09,606 I think it's a natural response sometimes 2088 01:36:09,641 --> 01:36:11,377 to be afraid of what you can't explain. 2089 01:36:11,412 --> 01:36:13,643 You have a right to have your feelings validated. 2090 01:36:13,678 --> 01:36:16,613 But you also, if you truly want to 2091 01:36:16,648 --> 01:36:18,087 understand that fear, 2092 01:36:18,122 --> 01:36:19,616 you have to explore it. 2093 01:36:19,651 --> 01:36:21,926 You have to walk through that fear. 2094 01:36:21,961 --> 01:36:23,928 You have to confront your fear. 2095 01:36:23,963 --> 01:36:25,160 Because something to remember 2096 01:36:25,195 --> 01:36:26,524 and I think that's very important, 2097 01:36:26,559 --> 01:36:30,264 is sometimes we don't acknowledge 2098 01:36:30,299 --> 01:36:31,628 our own personal power. 2099 01:36:31,663 --> 01:36:34,070 It's not easy 2100 01:36:34,105 --> 01:36:35,566 to change the way we see things. 2101 01:36:35,601 --> 01:36:37,205 It's not easy to change our perspective. 2102 01:36:37,240 --> 01:36:39,636 It takes practice, it takes time, it takes work. 2103 01:36:40,144 --> 01:36:42,177 And this is our duty, our responsibilities 2104 01:36:42,212 --> 01:36:44,146 and obligation of being human. 2105 01:36:44,511 --> 01:36:46,115 This is what we do best. 2106 01:36:46,513 --> 01:36:47,578 We learn. 2107 01:36:47,613 --> 01:36:51,054 ♪ 2108 01:36:51,089 --> 01:36:52,121 [Alice] Uh, you know, Shakespeare said, 2109 01:36:52,156 --> 01:36:53,650 "To thine own self be true." 2110 01:36:53,685 --> 01:36:55,091 And then that can't speak thoughts 2111 01:36:55,126 --> 01:36:57,390 to any man-- To your own self be true. 2112 01:36:57,425 --> 01:37:00,657 And it would have been against my own truth 2113 01:37:00,692 --> 01:37:02,901 to have moved out or to sell it. 2114 01:37:04,168 --> 01:37:06,663 [Steve] What Kendall and I set out to do 2115 01:37:06,698 --> 01:37:09,666 was to get Alice back into her house. 2116 01:37:09,701 --> 01:37:12,042 And that happened. She spent a night here. 2117 01:37:12,077 --> 01:37:13,912 And she woke up happy. 2118 01:37:15,047 --> 01:37:17,476 And Alice has turned this whole thing... 2119 01:37:18,512 --> 01:37:19,676 to work for her. 2120 01:37:19,711 --> 01:37:23,020 And I just think that is remarkable. 2121 01:37:23,055 --> 01:37:25,088 I think her attitude is perfect. 2122 01:37:25,618 --> 01:37:27,651 And the fact that she's already 2123 01:37:27,686 --> 01:37:30,060 making steps to staying back in her home. 2124 01:37:30,095 --> 01:37:32,326 She's taking that fear away 2125 01:37:32,361 --> 01:37:35,263 and she's replacing it with courage 2126 01:37:35,298 --> 01:37:37,936 and dedication to getting answers. 2127 01:37:38,598 --> 01:37:41,599 She says she wants to further the field and I think she has. 2128 01:37:42,173 --> 01:37:44,701 And I don't think that's ever been done before. 2129 01:37:44,736 --> 01:37:47,110 So I'm kind of feeling like 2130 01:37:47,145 --> 01:37:49,277 this is the most thorough, 2131 01:37:49,312 --> 01:37:51,576 in-depth, paranormal investigation 2132 01:37:51,611 --> 01:37:54,414 that has ever been documented. 2133 01:37:54,449 --> 01:37:59,485 ♪ 2134 01:38:03,755 --> 01:38:05,755 [night din] 2135 01:38:05,790 --> 01:38:09,099 [dramatic music] 2136 01:38:09,134 --> 01:38:11,398 And I say 'when," not "if," 2137 01:38:11,433 --> 01:38:13,466 because that carriage will come down. 2138 01:38:13,501 --> 01:38:14,566 You can mark my words. 2139 01:38:14,601 --> 01:38:15,600 I've been saying it before 2140 01:38:15,635 --> 01:38:17,008 you guys even got here 2141 01:38:17,043 --> 01:38:18,339 and you're going to hear it now. 2142 01:38:18,374 --> 01:38:20,176 I have no reason to have the full confidence 2143 01:38:20,211 --> 01:38:21,705 but I do have the full confidence. 2144 01:38:21,740 --> 01:38:23,377 The carriage is coming down the stairs. 2145 01:38:25,777 --> 01:38:28,118 Any intelligent spirits that are in the house. 2146 01:38:28,747 --> 01:38:30,780 Focus your energy on that carriage 2147 01:38:30,815 --> 01:38:32,617 that I placed at the top of the stairs and you have 2148 01:38:32,652 --> 01:38:35,994 our full permission to push it down the stairs. 2149 01:38:36,788 --> 01:38:38,722 So, please focus your energy. 2150 01:38:38,757 --> 01:38:41,131 I know you can without a doubt, 2151 01:38:41,166 --> 01:38:43,199 and push that carriage down the stairs. 2152 01:38:47,766 --> 01:38:49,106 [clatters] 2153 01:38:49,141 --> 01:38:50,371 -Good? -[Kendall] Great job. 2154 01:38:50,406 --> 01:38:52,043 -All right. -[Kendall] Wonderful job. 2155 01:38:52,078 --> 01:38:53,374 Carriage is coming down. 2156 01:38:53,409 --> 01:38:54,771 [Kendall] Let's, uh-- let's just hold on, 2157 01:38:54,806 --> 01:38:56,311 uh, [indistinct]. 2158 01:38:56,346 --> 01:38:58,511 [muffled, indistinct talking] 2159 01:39:04,156 --> 01:39:06,222 All right, I'm going to arm it so... 2160 01:39:07,390 --> 01:39:08,422 30 on here. 2161 01:39:08,457 --> 01:39:10,259 [beeping] 2162 01:39:10,294 --> 01:39:11,491 -All right. -[robotic voice] [indistinct] 2163 01:39:11,526 --> 01:39:13,196 away. Exit now. 2164 01:39:13,231 --> 01:39:18,300 [rhythmic beeping] 2165 01:39:27,674 --> 01:39:32,050 [rapid beeping] 2166 01:39:38,124 --> 01:39:39,552 [robotic voice] Far away. 2167 01:39:39,587 --> 01:39:41,587 [eerie instrumental] 2168 01:39:41,622 --> 01:39:46,658 ♪ 2169 01:40:16,690 --> 01:40:22,100 ♪ 2170 01:40:51,395 --> 01:40:56,563 [pleasant instrumental] 2171 01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:36,636 ♪ 2172 01:42:11,607 --> 01:42:16,643 ♪ 2173 01:42:18,515 --> 01:42:20,449 [music ends]