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<i>I think the house is alive.</i>

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<i>There's a consciousness here.</i>

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<i>You just know</i>
<i>you're being watched.</i>

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<i>I started seeing</i>
<i>light formations,</i>

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<i>bizarre light formations.</i>

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<i>It scared me so bad</i>

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<i>that when I close my eyes,</i>
<i>I still see it.</i>

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<i>I can't stay here</i>
<i>at night by myself.</i>

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♪

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♪

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<i>My name</i>
<i>is Alice Jackson.</i>

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<i>I've had this house--</i>
<i>I owned this house</i>

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<i>in Florence since 1990.</i>

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<i>In the last two years,</i>

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<i>there's been a lot of</i>
<i>interest in the house.</i>

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<i>For one thing, it just</i>
<i>makes it more comfortable a--</i>

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<i>around my neighborhood.</i>

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<i>I mean, now everybody</i>
<i>knows about the house</i>

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<i>and it's</i>
<i>very well accepted.</i>

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<i>People are very supportive.</i>

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<i>They'll tell you their</i>
<i>own stories about things.</i>

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<i>They understand</i>
<i>your experience</i>

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<i>and it's very positive.</i>

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<i>It resonates</i>
<i>with people because obviously</i>

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<i>it's a universal experience</i>
<i>to some degree.</i>

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<i>I mean, it's throughout--</i>
<i>you know, throughout history</i> ,

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<i>there's always been</i>
<i>ghost stories,</i>

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<i>always been</i>
<i>strange stories.</i>

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<i>People can relate</i>
<i>to the experience.</i>

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<i>I love my house.</i>

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<i>It feels peaceful</i>
<i>in the daytime.</i>

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<i>I like to come in</i>
<i>and read a book.</i>

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<i>I like to</i>
<i>have my friends over.</i>

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<i>But it's just</i>
<i>different at night.</i>

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<i>I mean,</i>
<i>it really is just different.</i>

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I think
a lot of people who

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think somebody deals
with a haunted house,

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especially nowadays,

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they think
it's kind of cool, you know?

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They're kind of like,
"It's awesome." You know?

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"Everybody wants
a haunted house."

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But when
you live in one,

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it's not quite that way,
you know?

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So, there must have been
a bit of a path of emotions

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that have happened
over the years.

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For-- for 20 years
we had things moving,

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ghost activity,
doors opening.

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And I accepted that.

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♪

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♪

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Okay, one more time.

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Loud enough
for everybody to hear.

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Can you please
whistle one more time?

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-That's upstairs.
-Yup. You hear that?

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It hasn't
happen again, though.

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-Ask again, can you...

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Can you
whistle one more time?

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Loud.

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That's bullshit.
That's upstairs.

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-It's in that, um--
-It's only at...

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It's in that room, um--

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It's in the crawlspace.

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Can you whistle
one more time for me?

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Come on, .

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One more time, loud.

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Oh, my God!

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In the last, uh,
11 years, 12 years,

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uh, I started seeing
light formations,

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bizarre light formation.

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♪

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I remember that
one primary time that th--

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I just said,
"That's it."

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And that was, uh,
an area of, um,

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a cylinder of daylight
in a pitch black room,

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light that didn't diffuse,
that was it.

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I didn't know
if it was just a fluke

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that it happened
when I was in that room

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or if it happened
because I was in that room.

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So uh--

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And then also
I did at the same time

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have a strong feeling
that I was being observed.

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So, I didn't know if
there was a conscious presence

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observing that room
for some reason

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or if, uh,
I was the target.

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♪

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It happened because
I was in that room.

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-So, uh-- And then also I did--

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♪

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Alice's house,

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I do feel like it's still
learning to communicate.

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I still feel like
we are teaching the spirits

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in a--
in a weird way.

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Do I think the house
is still learning?

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It-- it appears to be

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responding
to our requests.

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So, we have a baseball,

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I believe,
we have on the stairs--

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I'm gonna put
our sweet little doll

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here on the stairs.

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We put a doll in
a blue dress on the stairwell.

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We focus
solely on this object.

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I see the doll for sure.

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-That's fine. That's--
-Yeah, we're good.

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That's mainly
what I want right there.

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Yeah. That's good.

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All right,
so you have John, Alice,

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Brad in the house
investigating tonight.

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We would love some
kind of visual representation

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that you can
hear our voices

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and you can
communicate with us.

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And we continue
to ask over and over again

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that any
intelligent entity that's here,

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push that doll down.

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There's been objects
that have moved off the stairs.

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They've been pushed.

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Can you
do that again?

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Is that possible?

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Push that little doll.

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That little doll on the stairs,
just push it backwards for us.

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♪

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So, we are
verbally asking you

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to focus your energy
on that blue doll.

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And eventually...

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Amazingly,

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the doll fell.

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Every time I come,
I ask that doll to fall.

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-I do, too--
-I'd say that.

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And I was reinforcin' it
and I said,

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"John, we'd love
for you to have it fall

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even now or even ."

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♪

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♪

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Oh, my God. .

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♪

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Oh, wow.

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♪

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The ball's come down
the steps several times still.

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And more recently,
it's actually seems like

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the ball
has gotten more aggressive

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when it
comes off the stairs,

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even to the fact where
it will actually pivot almost

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before it actually
just falls straight off.

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♪

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-Oh, shit!

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Yeah, shit!
Oh, baby, oh, my God.

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Look at that--
Look at my arms.

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-So, which one?

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-So, it's- 57--

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Oh, look.
Let's come over here and look.

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Uh, the keyboards play
by itself on command.

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The organ, uh,
the piano playing on command,

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responding with deep burst.

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Uh, that-- that's been
something that's been new.

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So, if you wanna walk over here
and play that keyboard,

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or play that piano,
play it for us.

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Just give us some kind of
sign that you're here,

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you can hear our voice

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and, uh,
you want to communicate with us

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for a little bit of time.

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So, if you could light that up,
that'd be fantastic.

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Obviously, you know, you can
always turn the chandelier off

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to get our attention.

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Put a ball in this
little chair right here,

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by doll and you know--

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-Un-- Unbelievable.

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What the--

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Dude, tell me
what the odds are.

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It's clearly Sabrina.

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.

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-Oh, shit.
-Holy shit. Yeah.

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My music box is playing

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-It is!
-Oh.

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-Did you hear music?
-Yes, certainly.

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It faded out.

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But what is it?

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Yeah.

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Oh, look at this,
look at this, look at this!

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Did you hear that?

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Dude, that frickin' piano
just played by itself!

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One of
the major differences

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with the chandelier
is not only

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does it turn off now,

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but we've actually captured

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the chandelier
turning on by itself.

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♪

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We've been asking the--

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the-- whatever's

188
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shutting that light off

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to turn back on.

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And that hasn't happened
ever until recently.

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All of a sudden
it starts happening.

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Hey, what'll be?

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Be back tomorrow.

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So, if you
want to do something,

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we-- we'll still be
able to see it.

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If you want to
turn that light on,

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we'll be
able to see it.

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♪

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I think that when we put
our energy into it

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and we can express
the emotions that we have

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and how important it is,
there's something

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in this house
and these four walls

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in this land
that's reacting to us,

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and it wants to
help tell its story.

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How does it make you feel
knowing that you have

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this beautiful house,

207
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um, but you literally

208
00:14:02,587 --> 00:14:04,257
have to
live somewhere else?

209
00:14:04,292 --> 00:14:06,996
Yeah, I remember thinking,
you know,

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before that I might
probably need to sell it

211
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because I'm doing
the upkeep and, you know,

212
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and, um...

213
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But I can't because I feel
emotionally attached to it.

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Actually, my daughter
died September of 2020.

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But I think
I've processed it pretty well

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because she was
very ill and I knew that,

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I knew that
she was dying.

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And, you know,
and we had time--

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We even
talked about it.

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We had time to express
ourselves and, you know,

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we had this-- she said,
"I'm-- I hope I die

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before you do because,"
she said,

223
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"I think you could handle it
better than I could."

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You are
the best mom ever.

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She had a lot of experiences,
and so did I,

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and I really kind of hate
that they're gone

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except just
in my own memory.

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♪

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Oh, look.
We really have this thing.

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-Looks good!
-All right.

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This is roll
A02 clip four,

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this is
Ashley Pevey's interview.

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-On marker.

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I'm Ashley Pevey.

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I grew up in this house

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and my mom
is Alice Jackson.

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Do you believe in ghosts?

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Oh, yeah,
I do believe in ghosts.

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But I'm--
I'm real conflicted.

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I can't decide
if I am

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wanting
to embrace this,

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or wanting to totally
reject it 'cause it's scary.

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You know,
it is scary.

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All these things
are .

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They're just not normal.

246
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I'm not really scared
because I grew up here.

247
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I mean,
I'm not really scared.

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But if something happens,

249
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then I get scared.

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00:16:00,837 --> 00:16:02,540
What's my mom's name?

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Oh!

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Oh, my God.

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It's okay.

254
00:16:10,748 --> 00:16:12,814
When I had
John Joseph, my child,

255
00:16:12,849 --> 00:16:14,354
he was six months old

256
00:16:14,389 --> 00:16:17,819
and we were sleeping
in that bed by ourselves.

257
00:16:17,854 --> 00:16:19,524
This is
the weirdest thing.

258
00:16:19,559 --> 00:16:21,196
Then he started crying.

259
00:16:21,231 --> 00:16:23,297
And so I came in this kitchen
to get him some milk.

260
00:16:23,695 --> 00:16:26,366
And when I got to the kitchen
to get him some milk,

261
00:16:26,401 --> 00:16:29,699
I heard this ballroom music
in this living room.

262
00:16:29,734 --> 00:16:32,207
And it was like,
very loud

263
00:16:32,242 --> 00:16:34,407
and it was
just playin' and playin'.

264
00:16:34,805 --> 00:16:36,838
And my mother-in-law
had come here

265
00:16:36,873 --> 00:16:38,312
and she was upstairs.

266
00:16:38,347 --> 00:16:40,149
And I thought,
"When she wakes up,

267
00:16:40,184 --> 00:16:43,251
I'm goin' fuss at her
for having that ringtone

268
00:16:43,286 --> 00:16:45,649
that plays
all night long."

269
00:16:46,223 --> 00:16:49,191
But the whole time
I was down here getting milk,

270
00:16:49,226 --> 00:16:51,193
there was ballroom music.

271
00:16:51,228 --> 00:16:52,458
When I got up
in the morning,

272
00:16:52,493 --> 00:16:54,823
she'd not left
her phone down here.

273
00:16:54,858 --> 00:16:56,396
Her phone was upstairs.

274
00:16:56,761 --> 00:16:58,794
But I heard that music.

275
00:16:58,829 --> 00:17:00,400
I mean.

276
00:17:00,435 --> 00:17:03,205
I wish somebody
could find an answer

277
00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:07,407
but, um, I'm afraid of
what that answer might be.

278
00:17:07,442 --> 00:17:08,507
You know?

279
00:17:09,807 --> 00:17:11,510
Ashley's passing.

280
00:17:11,941 --> 00:17:14,480
We lost her quickly.

281
00:17:14,812 --> 00:17:17,318
And Alice
is so unique.

282
00:17:17,353 --> 00:17:19,749
She processes some things

283
00:17:19,784 --> 00:17:21,652
differently than
anybody that I know.

284
00:17:22,226 --> 00:17:25,293
I'm actually fine
because I think

285
00:17:25,328 --> 00:17:27,295
I've processed
all that ahead of time.

286
00:17:27,330 --> 00:17:29,495
But I still think
that life continues.

287
00:17:29,530 --> 00:17:31,893
And I really--
when I visualize her,

288
00:17:31,928 --> 00:17:36,238
my natural sense
is that, um,

289
00:17:36,273 --> 00:17:38,702
she's perfectly fine,
she's perfectly happy.

290
00:17:41,245 --> 00:17:42,937
One of the reasons
why we decided

291
00:17:42,972 --> 00:17:46,908
to start
calling out Ashley's name

292
00:17:46,943 --> 00:17:49,779
is because she knows
what we do here

293
00:17:49,814 --> 00:17:51,253
as far as investigating.

294
00:17:51,288 --> 00:17:54,454
Ashley did grow up here.
She loved Alice.

295
00:17:54,819 --> 00:17:57,457
And, I mean, it makes sense.
She knows what we did.

296
00:17:57,492 --> 00:17:59,261
-She liked what we did.
-And of course,

297
00:17:59,296 --> 00:18:01,791
we did this
with Alice's consent,

298
00:18:01,826 --> 00:18:02,924
which is very important.

299
00:18:02,959 --> 00:18:04,893
And the night
we did that,

300
00:18:04,928 --> 00:18:08,567
we did get some strange,
direct responses

301
00:18:08,602 --> 00:18:10,602
from the organ
over in the corner.

302
00:18:10,637 --> 00:18:12,307
We were respectful, obviously.

303
00:18:12,342 --> 00:18:14,606
And we said,
"Ashley, are you here?"

304
00:18:14,641 --> 00:18:16,344
You know,
"Can you give us a sign?"

305
00:18:16,379 --> 00:18:18,313
You know, "We would love
to communicate with you,

306
00:18:18,348 --> 00:18:20,579
talk to you, let you know
Alice misses you."

307
00:18:21,318 --> 00:18:23,846
And all of a sudden,

308
00:18:23,881 --> 00:18:26,684
the organ piano
started booming

309
00:18:26,719 --> 00:18:28,422
a deep bass hit.

310
00:18:29,755 --> 00:18:31,194
Ashley?

311
00:18:31,691 --> 00:18:32,987
This is John.

312
00:18:35,959 --> 00:18:37,893
-Oh my-- Oh my--

313
00:18:37,928 --> 00:18:39,499
Sounds like a heartbeat.

314
00:18:41,998 --> 00:18:43,800
'Cause every
time we say Ashley.

315
00:18:43,835 --> 00:18:45,340
Every time.

316
00:18:46,739 --> 00:18:49,707
Ashley, is--
is this you?

317
00:18:55,484 --> 00:18:57,913
This is an ab--
absolute direct responses,

318
00:18:57,948 --> 00:19:00,322
I mean,
it's unbelievable.

319
00:19:01,325 --> 00:19:02,720
It wasn't a keystroke.

320
00:19:02,755 --> 00:19:05,426
It was a thumping sound
coming from the organ.

321
00:19:09,025 --> 00:19:11,300
Thank you.
Keep doing that for us.

322
00:19:18,573 --> 00:19:21,508
That's a direct response.
Thank you.

323
00:19:29,419 --> 00:19:30,880
Turn it off. Or like--

324
00:19:34,083 --> 00:19:35,654
power off.

325
00:19:35,689 --> 00:19:38,525
Yeah.
Yeah. There's only...

326
00:19:42,058 --> 00:19:43,530
I'm just curious
because whenever

327
00:19:43,565 --> 00:19:45,565
we all go back there,
it stops.

328
00:19:46,601 --> 00:19:48,832
It's off.
My phone's down. Off.

329
00:19:50,407 --> 00:19:52,407
-Lights off--
-Chandelier shut off.

330
00:19:52,442 --> 00:19:54,607
Later on we found out,
or I found out,

331
00:19:54,642 --> 00:19:58,006
that Ashley
is who gave Alice

332
00:19:58,041 --> 00:20:00,481
that piano, organ.

333
00:20:00,516 --> 00:20:02,450
We got
an organ in the house.

334
00:20:02,485 --> 00:20:04,045
And, uh,
we had heard, you know,

335
00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:05,717
my daughter
gave it to me

336
00:20:05,752 --> 00:20:08,049
because she had heard of
a lady in town was selling it

337
00:20:08,084 --> 00:20:09,787
because
she said it was haunted.

338
00:20:09,822 --> 00:20:11,855
And she was trying to
sell it for $150.

339
00:20:11,890 --> 00:20:13,395
Well,
nobody bought it.

340
00:20:13,430 --> 00:20:15,826
And so then she said
she'd sell it for $75.

341
00:20:16,433 --> 00:20:18,026
I told Ashley
I would take it, you know.

342
00:20:18,061 --> 00:20:19,500
And so, uh,
I went up there

343
00:20:19,535 --> 00:20:21,535
and got it
and it didn't do anything.

344
00:20:21,570 --> 00:20:24,901
But when John and Brad tried
to get the organ to play,

345
00:20:24,936 --> 00:20:27,673
they called her name
and that's when it played.

346
00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:31,743
There was two right there.

347
00:20:31,778 --> 00:20:34,746
It did, "Dum-dum."
You-- 'Cause you went...

348
00:20:36,387 --> 00:20:38,354
Do I think it's Ashley?

349
00:20:38,752 --> 00:20:39,785
Again, it's speculation.

350
00:20:39,820 --> 00:20:42,017
But I think it's possible
because of the amount

351
00:20:42,052 --> 00:20:43,689
of direct responses
that I got.

352
00:20:43,724 --> 00:20:46,021
It's not crazy to think
that this would be a place

353
00:20:46,056 --> 00:20:47,693
if Ashley was
to come and visit.

354
00:20:47,728 --> 00:20:50,124
Now, I'm not saying
that I necessarily

355
00:20:50,159 --> 00:20:51,763
think that was her.

356
00:20:51,798 --> 00:20:53,864
But I know that
she would do that if she could.

357
00:20:55,901 --> 00:21:00,937
♪

358
00:21:14,117 --> 00:21:16,821
Obviously, we know that
the land is probably

359
00:21:16,856 --> 00:21:19,527
the heartbeat
of the supernatural things

360
00:21:19,562 --> 00:21:20,825
that are happening here.

361
00:21:21,432 --> 00:21:22,728
Say hello, John Bullard.

362
00:21:22,763 --> 00:21:23,795
What's happenin'?

363
00:21:23,830 --> 00:21:25,533
John Bullard's in the house.

364
00:21:25,568 --> 00:21:26,864
Sabrina, all you need
is a beach and this.

365
00:21:27,735 --> 00:21:28,899
Amy Bullard's in the house.

366
00:21:29,803 --> 00:21:32,573
Seeing the research tent
pop up is cool

367
00:21:32,608 --> 00:21:34,509
because it's nice
to have a base camp.

368
00:21:36,447 --> 00:21:37,710
It makes it
easier for us

369
00:21:37,745 --> 00:21:39,481
to help document things
in the house.

370
00:21:39,516 --> 00:21:42,583
So to see this tent,
that's things we dream

371
00:21:42,618 --> 00:21:44,178
of being able
to have access to

372
00:21:44,213 --> 00:21:45,619
as paranormal investigators.

373
00:21:45,654 --> 00:21:46,917
-In here.
-This is awesome.

374
00:21:46,952 --> 00:21:48,391
This is awesome.

375
00:21:49,526 --> 00:21:51,020
One of
the most exciting things

376
00:21:51,055 --> 00:21:52,692
is the
ground-penetrating radar.

377
00:21:52,727 --> 00:21:54,430
Alice has been wanting
to do that for forever.

378
00:21:54,465 --> 00:21:56,762
I'm Benton Smith
with Century Mapping.

379
00:21:56,797 --> 00:21:59,765
We combine ground-penetrating
radar with GPS.

380
00:22:00,570 --> 00:22:02,768
We map
underground infrastructure

381
00:22:02,803 --> 00:22:05,903
from cemeteries
to municipalities,

382
00:22:05,938 --> 00:22:07,476
anything that's underground.

383
00:22:07,511 --> 00:22:08,741
If there was
a burial, like,

384
00:22:08,776 --> 00:22:10,809
let's say a body
was buried in a shroud.

385
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,516
Um, body decomposes
really quickly...

386
00:22:15,552 --> 00:22:18,586
leaving basically
a pocket of air.

387
00:22:21,690 --> 00:22:23,690
Yeah, so. All right.
So you see this?

388
00:22:24,055 --> 00:22:26,957
This could be just
a change in the type of soil.

389
00:22:26,992 --> 00:22:28,563
I mean,
it could be from--

390
00:22:29,159 --> 00:22:30,928
obviously we have
a lot of clay here.

391
00:22:30,963 --> 00:22:32,996
But in your estimation,
it would probably

392
00:22:33,031 --> 00:22:35,196
just be soil related

393
00:22:35,231 --> 00:22:37,066
and not like
a man-made structure

394
00:22:37,101 --> 00:22:38,672
or burial,
that sort of thing?

395
00:22:38,707 --> 00:22:40,234
-Not a burial.
-Okay.

396
00:22:40,269 --> 00:22:42,071
Not a burial,
but I mean, could it be

397
00:22:42,106 --> 00:22:43,545
something that
was man-made, yeah.

398
00:23:05,965 --> 00:23:11,001
♪

399
00:23:22,883 --> 00:23:24,014
So these are--

400
00:23:25,314 --> 00:23:27,017
These are potential burials.

401
00:23:27,723 --> 00:23:29,525
It's not
a lot to see.

402
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,219
But you can see here

403
00:23:31,254 --> 00:23:33,155
there's a beginning
and an end.

404
00:23:33,190 --> 00:23:34,860
-Yes.
-This is about

405
00:23:34,895 --> 00:23:36,059
four to five feet.

406
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,964
And so everywhere
that I have a red flag,

407
00:23:39,999 --> 00:23:41,097
it's very similar.

408
00:23:41,132 --> 00:23:42,637
There's something there.

409
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,772
Is that typically
what you would see

410
00:23:45,807 --> 00:23:47,675
if you were doing
that sort of work--

411
00:23:47,710 --> 00:23:49,875
Yeah, in a--
For an unmarked grave? Yeah.

412
00:23:49,910 --> 00:23:52,548
-Okay.
-There's certainly...

413
00:23:54,046 --> 00:23:55,914
I mean,
so far I've found

414
00:23:55,949 --> 00:23:58,114
10 areas that...

415
00:24:00,217 --> 00:24:03,284
some of them
could be unmarked graves.

416
00:24:03,319 --> 00:24:04,758
-Wow.
-Yeah.

417
00:24:04,793 --> 00:24:06,155
-Oh, my gosh.
-Could be.

418
00:24:06,190 --> 00:24:07,761
Ten, huh? Whoo.

419
00:24:17,333 --> 00:24:18,904
-Alice? Hey.
-Hey.

420
00:24:19,940 --> 00:24:22,006
Alice, this is Carolyn.
Uh, Carolyn. Uh, Alice.

421
00:24:22,041 --> 00:24:24,041
-How are you?
-Nice to meet you.

422
00:24:24,076 --> 00:24:27,649
So I brought in a geophysicist
named Carolyn

423
00:24:27,684 --> 00:24:30,113
with background
in astrophysics to really

424
00:24:30,148 --> 00:24:33,886
look into what could be
creating that light phenomena.

425
00:24:33,921 --> 00:24:36,317
Because a lot of things
can be explained

426
00:24:36,352 --> 00:24:38,891
by what's happening
environmentally

427
00:24:38,926 --> 00:24:41,091
and not something paranormal.

428
00:24:41,126 --> 00:24:44,358
I'm delighted to have
somebody to tell that story to

429
00:24:44,393 --> 00:24:46,162
who would
understand possibly.

430
00:24:46,197 --> 00:24:48,296
My name
is Carolyn Streiff

431
00:24:48,331 --> 00:24:51,134
and I am
a geophysicist

432
00:24:51,169 --> 00:24:53,741
that specializes
in near-surface

433
00:24:53,776 --> 00:24:56,810
geophysics acquisition
and analysis.

434
00:24:58,748 --> 00:25:01,342
The ERI
is a very useful tool

435
00:25:01,377 --> 00:25:03,982
because
we already have known

436
00:25:04,017 --> 00:25:05,654
value ranges

437
00:25:05,689 --> 00:25:08,657
for different
sediment and rock units.

438
00:25:08,692 --> 00:25:11,858
I could give some
information now for Alice

439
00:25:11,893 --> 00:25:15,026
to hopefully be able
to start coming to some sort of

440
00:25:15,061 --> 00:25:17,699
resolution
of what is happening here.

441
00:25:18,097 --> 00:25:19,833
She gave us
a lot of theories

442
00:25:19,868 --> 00:25:22,165
as to what
could be creating the phenomena

443
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:23,298
Alice is experiencing.

444
00:25:23,333 --> 00:25:25,267
It has to do
with earthquakes

445
00:25:25,302 --> 00:25:27,335
and maybe even volcanoes

446
00:25:27,370 --> 00:25:29,645
and fault lines
and blue shale

447
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,977
that's underneath
the ground here.

448
00:25:32,012 --> 00:25:34,716
There are
different types of rocks

449
00:25:34,751 --> 00:25:36,850
that when
you heat them or cool them,

450
00:25:36,885 --> 00:25:38,720
they will
have a voltage.

451
00:25:38,755 --> 00:25:41,789
If you compress them,
if you get a charge on to them.

452
00:25:41,824 --> 00:25:45,221
Also, when you do different
mechanical processes,

453
00:25:45,256 --> 00:25:46,893
they will illuminate.

454
00:25:47,258 --> 00:25:48,730
There is

455
00:25:48,765 --> 00:25:51,425
an actual
scientific effect

456
00:25:51,460 --> 00:25:54,395
that creates light
from rubbing quartz.

457
00:25:54,430 --> 00:25:56,034
And because we know

458
00:25:56,069 --> 00:25:58,905
that Alice has sand
and shale underneath her home,

459
00:25:58,940 --> 00:26:01,105
there is quartz
in sand and shale.

460
00:26:01,437 --> 00:26:03,976
So, could
something be causing

461
00:26:04,011 --> 00:26:07,650
some of these light effects
that Alice is seeing?

462
00:26:08,081 --> 00:26:11,148
What if something
is affecting Alice's house

463
00:26:11,183 --> 00:26:14,382
momentarily because of
charges in the ground

464
00:26:14,417 --> 00:26:15,922
that could be occurring?

465
00:26:18,025 --> 00:26:20,388
Having a geophysicist
come do research here

466
00:26:20,423 --> 00:26:22,060
on the land is--
is huge.

467
00:26:22,799 --> 00:26:24,326
I think it's very
exciting anytime you have

468
00:26:24,361 --> 00:26:28,462
a person of science background
that's willing to reach out

469
00:26:28,497 --> 00:26:30,431
to the paranormal
side of things.

470
00:26:30,466 --> 00:26:31,938
You don't see that.

471
00:26:32,270 --> 00:26:33,907
I--
At least I haven't.

472
00:26:33,942 --> 00:26:35,975
I haven't seen much of that
at all in this field.

473
00:26:36,010 --> 00:26:40,716
♪

474
00:26:41,312 --> 00:26:42,850
-Hey, Carolyn.
-Hey.

475
00:26:42,885 --> 00:26:46,249
You said you had
some information to share.

476
00:26:46,757 --> 00:26:48,790
This line we did

477
00:26:48,825 --> 00:26:52,189
that passed by the tree
that the dog hit at.

478
00:26:52,224 --> 00:26:54,125
So, there's something else
in the ground there.

479
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:55,830
That is not soil,
that is something.

480
00:26:55,865 --> 00:26:57,029
And it's not
a tree root.

481
00:26:57,064 --> 00:26:58,833
It's too big
to be a tree root.

482
00:26:58,868 --> 00:27:01,396
So, what you're saying
basically is the electricity

483
00:27:01,431 --> 00:27:02,804
goes through the soil.

484
00:27:02,839 --> 00:27:04,333
-Mm-hmm.
-And here

485
00:27:04,368 --> 00:27:06,335
it is not conducting

486
00:27:06,370 --> 00:27:08,337
because
there is a void there.

487
00:27:08,944 --> 00:27:11,912
Yeah, it's having a hard--
it's having a harder time

488
00:27:11,947 --> 00:27:13,815
going through the soil.

489
00:27:13,850 --> 00:27:16,312
-Wow.
-I'll tell you something.

490
00:27:16,347 --> 00:27:19,986
This is
extremely similar

491
00:27:20,021 --> 00:27:23,990
to when I did
an old section of a cemetery

492
00:27:24,025 --> 00:27:26,520
and the body
was no longer decomposing

493
00:27:26,555 --> 00:27:28,489
so there was no longer
any signature of the body.

494
00:27:28,524 --> 00:27:31,932
But the fill
that was above the body

495
00:27:31,967 --> 00:27:34,803
was still
resistive enough to be shown,

496
00:27:34,838 --> 00:27:36,805
which is what
we're exactly seeing here.

497
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,808
And there's
now fresh soil on top.

498
00:27:39,843 --> 00:27:41,876
So, that's
a loose sort of fill,

499
00:27:41,911 --> 00:27:44,780
as if somebody
had a shovel or something.

500
00:27:44,815 --> 00:27:46,177
It would be.

501
00:27:46,212 --> 00:27:48,509
It would be, yeah,
where somebody dug something

502
00:27:48,544 --> 00:27:49,917
and then filled
the hole back up.

503
00:27:49,952 --> 00:27:51,787
There's something
going on there.

504
00:27:51,822 --> 00:27:52,986
This is great.

505
00:27:53,021 --> 00:27:54,416
Thank you
for all this hard work.

506
00:27:55,056 --> 00:27:57,254
I think we may
have to dig there

507
00:27:57,289 --> 00:27:58,794
and just see what--

508
00:27:58,829 --> 00:28:00,191
what is there.

509
00:28:20,851 --> 00:28:22,312
Somebody what?

510
00:28:22,347 --> 00:28:27,383
♪

511
00:28:32,523 --> 00:28:34,588
Copy that. Copy that.
Can you get your camera up?

512
00:28:34,623 --> 00:28:36,194
-Yeah.
-Thank you.

513
00:28:39,903 --> 00:28:41,430
Can you po--
Can you start rolling?

514
00:28:41,465 --> 00:28:43,564
-Yeah.
-Hey, Steve?

515
00:28:43,599 --> 00:28:48,602
♪

516
00:28:48,637 --> 00:28:50,978
Yeah, we're comin' out front.

517
00:28:51,013 --> 00:28:56,049
♪

518
00:29:01,353 --> 00:29:03,287
Well-- wha-- what happened?
Why-- why are you--

519
00:29:03,322 --> 00:29:04,387
Okay.

520
00:29:05,324 --> 00:29:06,862
So.

521
00:29:07,964 --> 00:29:10,965
I was like, kind of looking
over here the entire time.

522
00:29:11,495 --> 00:29:13,594
All of a sudden,

523
00:29:13,629 --> 00:29:16,300
out of--
out of nowhere, I just saw

524
00:29:16,335 --> 00:29:17,532
somebody.

525
00:29:17,567 --> 00:29:19,072
So if I'm
standing over here.

526
00:29:19,107 --> 00:29:21,976
I'll show you exactly
where the person walked.

527
00:29:23,672 --> 00:29:25,474
But they were definitely
not heading into the tent.

528
00:29:25,509 --> 00:29:29,885
So, I expected to see somebody
walk out the other side.

529
00:29:30,481 --> 00:29:32,316
And there
is nobody over here.

530
00:29:32,351 --> 00:29:35,616
There's nobody here,
nobody turned around.

531
00:29:35,651 --> 00:29:37,288
-Okay.
-So, you were--

532
00:29:37,323 --> 00:29:40,027
I'm just having a--
This is just too wild.

533
00:29:40,062 --> 00:29:41,325
Sorry. Yes. Okay.

534
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,163
So, during your, just research

535
00:29:44,198 --> 00:29:46,264
on your lines,

536
00:29:46,299 --> 00:29:49,234
you thought you saw
somebody walking over here?

537
00:29:49,269 --> 00:29:51,038
And you came over
and there's nobody here?

538
00:29:51,073 --> 00:29:53,337
And I just
happened to see

539
00:29:53,372 --> 00:29:55,372
as I'm facing towards

540
00:29:55,407 --> 00:29:57,979
this area of the yard,

541
00:29:58,014 --> 00:30:00,344
I saw somebody walking,

542
00:30:00,379 --> 00:30:03,677
uh, toward-- I saw somebody
walking towards the tent.

543
00:30:03,712 --> 00:30:06,680
I mean, I don't want to
put any more sort of--

544
00:30:06,715 --> 00:30:09,584
not fear,
but I guess maybe anxiety

545
00:30:09,619 --> 00:30:12,059
into the situation
for you.

546
00:30:12,094 --> 00:30:14,930
But there are many,
many reports

547
00:30:14,965 --> 00:30:18,527
of an apparition
being seen back here.

548
00:30:18,562 --> 00:30:20,133
Uh,
the neighbor has claimed

549
00:30:20,168 --> 00:30:21,904
to see
an apparition back here.

550
00:30:22,335 --> 00:30:25,270
We did have a psychic named,
uh, Jill come here

551
00:30:25,305 --> 00:30:29,142
and she drew
the image of a gentleman

552
00:30:29,177 --> 00:30:32,046
that she saw
in the backyard here.

553
00:30:32,708 --> 00:30:36,281
Uh, so,
the gentleman I saw,

554
00:30:36,316 --> 00:30:38,547
without like-- I--
the thing that drew me

555
00:30:38,582 --> 00:30:41,385
to seeing this person walking
for just a brief second

556
00:30:41,420 --> 00:30:44,685
was the fact that
he was wearing white.

557
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,291
-But--
-Carolyn came here

558
00:30:46,326 --> 00:30:48,997
as a total nonbeliever
of the paranormal

559
00:30:49,032 --> 00:30:52,033
and had an experience
that changed her mind.

560
00:30:52,068 --> 00:30:54,167
And she's honestly
a little bit concerned

561
00:30:54,202 --> 00:30:56,004
that the science community

562
00:30:56,039 --> 00:30:58,171
is going to
look down on her.

563
00:30:58,206 --> 00:30:59,733
They're going to
raise their eyebrow.

564
00:30:59,768 --> 00:31:01,438
But, you know,
that's scary for me

565
00:31:01,473 --> 00:31:04,980
because I wanted to
completely explain

566
00:31:05,015 --> 00:31:07,246
a lot of the phenomena
so I could tell Alice, like,

567
00:31:07,281 --> 00:31:09,743
what you're experiencing
is actually A, B, C and D.

568
00:31:09,778 --> 00:31:12,713
But the geophysicist
had an experience.

569
00:31:12,748 --> 00:31:16,123
Uh, we've had
another person, Erin,

570
00:31:16,158 --> 00:31:19,258
who lived next door,
grew up next door,

571
00:31:19,293 --> 00:31:21,392
who said she saw
a full body apparition

572
00:31:21,427 --> 00:31:24,065
not only in the same location
as the geophysicist

573
00:31:24,100 --> 00:31:28,069
but also the description
was pretty close.

574
00:31:28,104 --> 00:31:30,302
A male
in a white shirt.

575
00:31:30,337 --> 00:31:35,142
♪

576
00:31:35,177 --> 00:31:37,144
The man
I saw at the door,

577
00:31:37,179 --> 00:31:39,113
he seemed
to be about my height.

578
00:31:39,148 --> 00:31:42,380
Very young.
Early twenties. Late teens.

579
00:31:42,811 --> 00:31:45,317
He was wearing a white shirt
and he had dark hair

580
00:31:45,352 --> 00:31:48,056
and it was slicked back
and real strong eyes.

581
00:31:49,191 --> 00:31:53,061
I didn't feel like a presence
or anything when I was here,

582
00:31:53,096 --> 00:31:56,262
cutting grass, it was
completely sprung up on me.

583
00:31:57,793 --> 00:32:00,761
And he looked
so real.

584
00:32:00,796 --> 00:32:02,433
He was looking
this direction.

585
00:32:02,468 --> 00:32:05,139
And I came around the corner
and he turned his head

586
00:32:05,174 --> 00:32:07,537
and looked right at me,
and I looked at him.

587
00:32:08,144 --> 00:32:11,673
And his--
his eyes were so intense.

588
00:32:11,708 --> 00:32:14,577
It wasn't anything li--
the ghostly,

589
00:32:14,612 --> 00:32:18,548
fuzzy, foggy look that you
think you see in movies and TV.

590
00:32:18,583 --> 00:32:22,156
He was completely solid.

591
00:32:24,127 --> 00:32:25,588
Erin told us
the story about

592
00:32:25,623 --> 00:32:28,195
seeing the full body apparition
on the back land.

593
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,659
Yes, I remember that
because I was at work

594
00:32:30,694 --> 00:32:32,826
and she called me and I mean,
you could tell she was--

595
00:32:32,861 --> 00:32:35,268
she was
so nervous, excited.

596
00:32:35,303 --> 00:32:37,369
And she told me,
you know, such detail.

597
00:32:37,404 --> 00:32:38,766
I mean,
there's things that I think

598
00:32:38,801 --> 00:32:40,141
draw us
out there a lot, you know?

599
00:32:40,176 --> 00:32:42,077
Whether
it's the door opening

600
00:32:42,112 --> 00:32:43,540
or the EVP,
we got one time that said,

601
00:32:43,575 --> 00:32:45,278
"I'm in the woods."

602
00:32:48,316 --> 00:32:50,283
I think that
we really should focus a lot

603
00:32:50,318 --> 00:32:52,120
on the uh--
on the backyard.

604
00:32:52,155 --> 00:32:53,715
And I think that's the
heartbeat of what's going on.

605
00:33:12,670 --> 00:33:14,175
-Hello.
-Jill.

606
00:33:14,210 --> 00:33:15,539
-It's good to see you.
-Hey,

607
00:33:15,574 --> 00:33:16,738
good to see you too.

608
00:33:16,773 --> 00:33:19,114
I'm excited that,
uh, Jill Morris,

609
00:33:19,149 --> 00:33:20,478
who came last time,

610
00:33:20,513 --> 00:33:23,448
is coming back
because she did have a lot of

611
00:33:23,483 --> 00:33:27,221
accurate statements
and intuitive things

612
00:33:27,256 --> 00:33:29,355
that were borne out
by things that happened.

613
00:33:30,424 --> 00:33:34,162
There is a female
that I'm not familiar with

614
00:33:34,197 --> 00:33:36,230
that has been
coming here

615
00:33:36,265 --> 00:33:39,398
and she brings
with her a lot of music.

616
00:33:39,433 --> 00:33:42,335
Does that
mean anything to you?

617
00:33:42,370 --> 00:33:43,666
It does.

618
00:33:43,701 --> 00:33:46,900
And I kept
hearing music

619
00:33:46,935 --> 00:33:49,309
that almost
sounded like a music box.

620
00:33:49,344 --> 00:33:52,609
That's exactly what we hear.

621
00:33:52,644 --> 00:33:53,874
She was standing--

622
00:33:53,909 --> 00:33:55,909
like I was here
and she was standing

623
00:33:55,944 --> 00:33:58,681
more towards the door,
so whatever this area

624
00:33:58,716 --> 00:34:00,452
where the table
is over there--

625
00:34:00,487 --> 00:34:02,355
And she was just
twirling around,

626
00:34:02,390 --> 00:34:04,489
pulling all of these
beautiful lights in

627
00:34:04,524 --> 00:34:07,228
with this beautiful music
playing in the background.

628
00:34:07,626 --> 00:34:10,297
What I did
is the name Rich came up,

629
00:34:10,332 --> 00:34:12,827
then Richardson, and I'm like,
"What does this mean?"

630
00:34:12,862 --> 00:34:16,435
There is a waltz that goes back
to the state of South Carolina.

631
00:34:16,899 --> 00:34:18,503
Does--
do you have any community--

632
00:34:18,538 --> 00:34:20,274
Anything to do
with South Carolina?

633
00:34:20,540 --> 00:34:22,408
Yes,
that's where they're from.

634
00:34:22,443 --> 00:34:25,510
We have a genealogy book
that traces the family back--

635
00:34:25,545 --> 00:34:28,150
This, for crying out loud.

636
00:34:30,352 --> 00:34:33,683
Then we have
this spirit.

637
00:34:34,785 --> 00:34:37,324
And I call him
the Reverend.

638
00:34:37,359 --> 00:34:40,228
I wouldn't say
he was evil by any means.

639
00:34:40,263 --> 00:34:41,955
He's just
a dark person.

640
00:34:41,990 --> 00:34:45,893
He just seemed to be
when he was alive,

641
00:34:45,928 --> 00:34:47,664
which carries over...

642
00:34:49,536 --> 00:34:50,601
angry.

643
00:34:52,308 --> 00:34:55,309
They were-- this area,
this land may have been his

644
00:34:55,344 --> 00:34:58,675
or he had something to do
with this land at one time.

645
00:34:58,710 --> 00:34:59,940
I'm just
going to say it.

646
00:34:59,975 --> 00:35:01,546
It's almost like,
don't find out about me.

647
00:35:01,581 --> 00:35:03,845
Like, it's because
it's an exposure.

648
00:35:04,386 --> 00:35:06,221
He was not a nice person
and I do think

649
00:35:06,256 --> 00:35:09,785
he had a hand in
what happened in the backyard.

650
00:35:10,722 --> 00:35:11,886
Okay.

651
00:35:17,465 --> 00:35:20,466
So, this
is the general area.

652
00:35:21,733 --> 00:35:23,205
Just going to be honest.

653
00:35:24,307 --> 00:35:26,604
He was taken here.
I think he was hung here.

654
00:35:28,476 --> 00:35:30,773
There was
a debt to be paid

655
00:35:30,808 --> 00:35:33,842
and he--
he was killed.

656
00:35:33,877 --> 00:35:35,745
It's not that
he stole something.

657
00:35:36,352 --> 00:35:39,716
And that's kind of
what his message is right now

658
00:35:39,751 --> 00:35:41,553
speaking with you,

659
00:35:41,588 --> 00:35:44,457
is to know he's not
going to disrespect you.

660
00:35:44,492 --> 00:35:47,658
It's-- he wants people to
understand he was a good man.

661
00:35:48,628 --> 00:35:50,529
But I think the reason
he is really strong here

662
00:35:50,564 --> 00:35:53,026
is because
this is where he passed.

663
00:35:53,061 --> 00:35:54,500
That's my opinion.

664
00:35:55,602 --> 00:35:57,635
But he tends
to hang out here.

665
00:35:58,770 --> 00:36:01,342
You know,
I don't work with psychics,

666
00:36:01,377 --> 00:36:02,772
you know, that much.

667
00:36:02,807 --> 00:36:05,808
But my job here is
to service the investigation,

668
00:36:05,843 --> 00:36:08,745
to service what Alice wants,
to facilitate that.

669
00:36:08,780 --> 00:36:11,748
So if the team
wants another psychic here,

670
00:36:11,783 --> 00:36:13,783
you know, we're going to
bring one in for them.

671
00:36:13,818 --> 00:36:15,620
And I thought
it was important to make sure

672
00:36:15,655 --> 00:36:17,688
that is a psychic
who has never been

673
00:36:17,723 --> 00:36:19,261
to the house before.

674
00:36:27,997 --> 00:36:29,403
-Oh. Hello.
-Hello.

675
00:36:29,438 --> 00:36:30,767
-How are you? I'm Alice.
-Hey, I'm Sam.

676
00:36:30,802 --> 00:36:32,571
-Nice to meet you.
-Hey, nice to meet you.

677
00:36:32,606 --> 00:36:33,671
Come in.

678
00:36:33,706 --> 00:36:37,906
♪

679
00:36:37,941 --> 00:36:40,447
So, here we are.

680
00:36:40,482 --> 00:36:41,976
Yeah,
so, I'll tell you, like, I--

681
00:36:42,011 --> 00:36:43,516
Like, as soon as
I came on the property,

682
00:36:43,551 --> 00:36:47,421
I definitely started
having anxiety issues.

683
00:36:47,456 --> 00:36:49,522
So when it comes
to my abilities

684
00:36:49,557 --> 00:36:52,426
as a clairvoyant and as
a light of trance medium,

685
00:36:52,461 --> 00:36:55,495
I've learned to kind of
separate my emotions

686
00:36:55,530 --> 00:36:56,958
from the emotions
of the spirits

687
00:36:56,993 --> 00:36:58,498
that I'm communicating with.

688
00:36:59,402 --> 00:37:00,896
So, I came in
with my guard up.

689
00:37:00,931 --> 00:37:03,635
I-- I did feel
not welcomed

690
00:37:03,670 --> 00:37:05,538
when I first walked up
to the property.

691
00:37:05,573 --> 00:37:07,474
So, I was feeling
sort of the--

692
00:37:07,509 --> 00:37:09,608
the energy, the chaos.

693
00:37:09,643 --> 00:37:12,611
So, what I've been picking up
on for the past few days

694
00:37:12,646 --> 00:37:14,679
is there's
an older gentleman,

695
00:37:14,714 --> 00:37:17,517
uh,
who wants to communicate.

696
00:37:17,552 --> 00:37:20,916
And he definitely
is the type of person that,

697
00:37:20,951 --> 00:37:23,358
uh, very cranky.

698
00:37:23,393 --> 00:37:26,955
So when I was coming in,
he was like,

699
00:37:26,990 --> 00:37:28,924
basically telling me
to get out.

700
00:37:28,959 --> 00:37:30,398
Uh, and-- like,

701
00:37:30,433 --> 00:37:31,696
"This is my land.

702
00:37:31,731 --> 00:37:33,126
This is my land!"

703
00:37:33,161 --> 00:37:34,765
And, um,

704
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,899
I think that we're going to
see on the property

705
00:37:36,934 --> 00:37:39,099
that there
is definitely, uh,

706
00:37:39,134 --> 00:37:41,706
signs that
he was on the property.

707
00:37:41,741 --> 00:37:44,478
This was not his house.
His house was out back.

708
00:37:44,513 --> 00:37:47,580
Now he has stuff
in the back there--

709
00:37:47,615 --> 00:37:49,010
He has secrets
in the back.

710
00:37:49,584 --> 00:37:51,716
Um,
and I hope that we can

711
00:37:51,751 --> 00:37:53,619
maybe uncover
those secrets.

712
00:37:53,951 --> 00:37:55,753
But he's hiding something.

713
00:37:55,788 --> 00:37:56,952
Whoa.

714
00:37:59,759 --> 00:38:01,462
Well, I can see if--
if anybody

715
00:38:01,497 --> 00:38:03,123
has tried to stay
in this room,

716
00:38:03,158 --> 00:38:04,762
like, why they wouldn't
want to stay here.

717
00:38:04,797 --> 00:38:06,863
All right.
I'm going to go there.

718
00:38:08,163 --> 00:38:09,602
Okay.

719
00:38:12,002 --> 00:38:13,771
Okay.

720
00:38:16,842 --> 00:38:18,908
All right.
What do you want from Alice?

721
00:38:26,687 --> 00:38:28,819
All right,
I'm seeing, um--

722
00:38:32,858 --> 00:38:36,926
He wants you to dig.
Uh, dig out in the back.

723
00:38:37,698 --> 00:38:40,798
Okay, um, he's showing me
that he wants you to dig.

724
00:38:41,196 --> 00:38:43,031
Um, you-- there's something
hidden down there.

725
00:38:43,066 --> 00:38:44,131
I'm getting chills.

726
00:38:44,166 --> 00:38:45,506
My back and my neck

727
00:38:45,541 --> 00:38:47,739
is being touched right now.

728
00:38:48,104 --> 00:38:49,543
Um.

729
00:38:50,172 --> 00:38:52,579
Well, when I was connecting
with the spirit

730
00:38:52,614 --> 00:38:54,482
of the older man,
he kept saying,

731
00:38:54,517 --> 00:38:56,484
"Dig, dig, dig."

732
00:38:59,522 --> 00:39:01,852
All right, sir, so I want you
to tell me where to dig.

733
00:39:02,558 --> 00:39:03,887
Give me a sign.

734
00:39:07,827 --> 00:39:10,091
All right,
can you show me where--

735
00:39:10,126 --> 00:39:11,796
Uh,
where you want to dig?

736
00:39:11,831 --> 00:39:13,831
I guess give me
some animal indication

737
00:39:13,866 --> 00:39:15,569
or some sort.

738
00:39:16,803 --> 00:39:18,704
All right.
So I'm going to keep walking.

739
00:39:18,739 --> 00:39:20,574
Okay, that's interesting.

740
00:39:20,609 --> 00:39:25,645
♪

741
00:39:27,979 --> 00:39:29,946
All right, so I'm gett--
I'm getting--

742
00:39:29,981 --> 00:39:32,949
I'm getting a flashback
to someone getting,

743
00:39:32,984 --> 00:39:34,489
like,
an attack over here.

744
00:39:34,524 --> 00:39:35,952
So there was
some kind of--

745
00:39:39,089 --> 00:39:44,125
♪

746
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,193
All right,
so just so you-- I mean,

747
00:39:46,228 --> 00:39:47,601
I'm going--
I'm just going to go there.

748
00:39:47,636 --> 00:39:48,965
-Yeah.
-Okay.

749
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,804
Um, so there was
definitely tensions going on.

750
00:39:52,839 --> 00:39:54,674
Um,
I think that there was--

751
00:39:54,709 --> 00:39:58,172
there was an attack,
maybe even, uh, something

752
00:39:58,207 --> 00:39:59,844
like a lynching
of some sort

753
00:39:59,879 --> 00:40:01,681
that could have
happened back here too.

754
00:40:03,751 --> 00:40:05,245
The animals
responding to me is--

755
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,620
means that
that's the truth.

756
00:40:16,929 --> 00:40:18,797
-Jill.
-Nice to meet you, Sam.

757
00:40:18,832 --> 00:40:20,634
It's nice to meet you, Sam.

758
00:40:22,671 --> 00:40:24,297
So, you've had
a chance to kind of

759
00:40:24,332 --> 00:40:26,134
get your own vibe,
what's going on?

760
00:40:26,169 --> 00:40:28,741
I feel like that the land
is stained with blood.

761
00:40:28,776 --> 00:40:30,138
There's something out there

762
00:40:30,173 --> 00:40:31,810
that we should
probably investigate.

763
00:40:32,241 --> 00:40:33,878
I am hearing

764
00:40:33,913 --> 00:40:36,617
a really
super pitch high frequency.

765
00:40:36,652 --> 00:40:38,652
-Oh, me too. Yeah.
-Okay.

766
00:40:38,687 --> 00:40:40,687
So, have you
ever heard that before?

767
00:40:40,722 --> 00:40:43,657
I know you said static and
I've heard that here before.

768
00:40:43,692 --> 00:40:45,153
Yeah, I heard--
when you said you heard it

769
00:40:45,188 --> 00:40:47,221
in that back room,
I did, too.

770
00:40:47,256 --> 00:40:48,827
You want to go check it out?

771
00:40:48,862 --> 00:40:50,323
-Yeah.
-Be careful

772
00:40:50,358 --> 00:40:52,798
because
this is new for me.

773
00:40:53,801 --> 00:40:56,197
And see,
it picks up in here.

774
00:40:56,232 --> 00:40:57,297
Yep.

775
00:40:57,332 --> 00:40:59,574
Okay.
So, this is new.

776
00:41:01,204 --> 00:41:03,677
And I was trying to
get my bearings.

777
00:41:04,911 --> 00:41:06,647
It does seem
over the bed.

778
00:41:06,682 --> 00:41:08,583
-Yeah, it's over here.
-It's over the be--

779
00:41:08,618 --> 00:41:10,277
It's like super loud
over here.

780
00:41:10,312 --> 00:41:11,344
Over there. Yeah.

781
00:41:11,379 --> 00:41:12,653
I will say this thing

782
00:41:12,688 --> 00:41:14,050
wants to attach to one of us.

783
00:41:14,085 --> 00:41:15,623
There is a male

784
00:41:15,658 --> 00:41:16,921
and that's
what he is trying to do.

785
00:41:16,956 --> 00:41:19,594
And it's odd you say that
because I get it

786
00:41:19,629 --> 00:41:21,662
right outside the house,

787
00:41:21,697 --> 00:41:23,796
whereas
the last time I was here,

788
00:41:23,831 --> 00:41:26,667
he was in the house
and he was very unpleasant.

789
00:41:26,702 --> 00:41:28,361
Right.
Was he the murderer?

790
00:41:28,396 --> 00:41:29,934
Do you think
that he's the one--

791
00:41:29,969 --> 00:41:31,771
I think he had
something to do with it.

792
00:41:31,806 --> 00:41:34,103
And it's spending, what,
a couple hours out in the back.

793
00:41:35,337 --> 00:41:37,238
It really gave me

794
00:41:37,273 --> 00:41:39,746
a good chance
to pick up on--

795
00:41:39,781 --> 00:41:43,343
there is a spirit
of an enslaved person.

796
00:41:43,378 --> 00:41:44,916
Oh, my gosh.
Okay, you're right.

797
00:41:44,951 --> 00:41:46,687
That's what
I was picking up too.

798
00:41:46,722 --> 00:41:47,952
So it is something--

799
00:41:47,987 --> 00:41:49,217
You actually said lynching.

800
00:41:49,252 --> 00:41:50,757
-Yeah.
-Yeah.

801
00:41:50,792 --> 00:41:52,385
And that's--
that's what I picked up on.

802
00:41:52,420 --> 00:41:54,156
And there's a--
I'll show you that.

803
00:41:54,191 --> 00:41:55,696
You got-- You did?

804
00:41:55,731 --> 00:41:57,225
Okay,
this is giving me chills.

805
00:41:57,260 --> 00:41:58,732
Yeah.

806
00:41:59,834 --> 00:42:01,064
-Are you okay?
-Yeah.

807
00:42:03,101 --> 00:42:04,166
Yeah.

808
00:42:08,271 --> 00:42:09,677
Do you want to take a moment?

809
00:42:09,712 --> 00:42:11,877
Yeah.
Oh, I'm sorry.

810
00:42:13,815 --> 00:42:15,947
I just--
I sort of trusted myself

811
00:42:15,982 --> 00:42:17,850
because I did see that,
but I was just like,

812
00:42:17,885 --> 00:42:20,116
I didn't
want to go there, you know?

813
00:42:20,151 --> 00:42:21,216
Because it's so horrific.

814
00:42:21,251 --> 00:42:22,250
Like, who would do that

815
00:42:22,285 --> 00:42:23,691
to somebody else, you know?

816
00:42:24,958 --> 00:42:28,993
Working with Jill
on this collaboration

817
00:42:29,028 --> 00:42:30,731
was awesome for me

818
00:42:30,766 --> 00:42:33,668
because I was able to
get a confirmation

819
00:42:33,703 --> 00:42:35,032
for the things
that I was picking up.

820
00:42:35,837 --> 00:42:39,036
He-- he is--
his spirit is very grateful.

821
00:42:39,709 --> 00:42:41,137
So just know that.

822
00:42:41,172 --> 00:42:44,371
And I--
I want him to know and I want--

823
00:42:44,406 --> 00:42:46,879
I want you
to know that

824
00:42:46,914 --> 00:42:49,882
his story
has been heard

825
00:42:49,917 --> 00:42:53,347
and he's no longer
a man without a voice.

826
00:42:53,382 --> 00:42:55,855
He now has a voice
and he can speak freely

827
00:42:55,890 --> 00:42:58,792
and hopefully
he can move on to Heaven.

828
00:43:01,797 --> 00:43:03,390
-This is good, Alice.
-Yeah, yeah,

829
00:43:03,425 --> 00:43:06,701
it feels so whole...
wholesome.

830
00:43:08,166 --> 00:43:10,430
-Healing?
-Healing, that's it.

831
00:43:24,347 --> 00:43:25,885
I wanna do the full spectrum.

832
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,953
-Yup.
-I'm gonna go in there?

833
00:43:28,824 --> 00:43:30,054
Oh, my God.

834
00:43:30,089 --> 00:43:32,221
-Where?
-Just on that chair.

835
00:43:33,356 --> 00:43:34,795
And then
just do some--

836
00:43:34,830 --> 00:43:35,961
just ask a question,
see if you can

837
00:43:35,996 --> 00:43:37,358
get the
to go off.

838
00:43:37,965 --> 00:43:40,867
So, my name's Amy.
And you know me.

839
00:43:40,902 --> 00:43:43,034
I've been coming
to this house for years.

840
00:43:47,271 --> 00:43:49,304
Hi.

841
00:43:49,339 --> 00:43:50,778
Oh, my God.

842
00:43:52,375 --> 00:43:53,913
Can you
do that again?

843
00:43:56,478 --> 00:43:58,049
You know
I don't like this room.

844
00:43:59,855 --> 00:44:00,986
What's that noise?

845
00:44:01,021 --> 00:44:02,482
Sounds like .

846
00:44:02,517 --> 00:44:04,022
Which one?

847
00:44:05,553 --> 00:44:06,827
It's this one.

848
00:44:13,462 --> 00:44:17,101
Are you the spirit who made

849
00:44:17,136 --> 00:44:19,235
all that light

850
00:44:19,270 --> 00:44:21,941
happen with Alice

851
00:44:21,976 --> 00:44:23,844
when she was
in this room?

852
00:44:26,508 --> 00:44:28,981
-Put this one there.

853
00:44:30,248 --> 00:44:33,282
I know it's a lot
we're asking of you

854
00:44:33,317 --> 00:44:35,515
and it takes
a lot of energy

855
00:44:35,550 --> 00:44:37,121
to be able
to communicate.

856
00:44:37,827 --> 00:44:40,157
But I really want you
to try really hard.

857
00:44:45,901 --> 00:44:47,428
All right.
We're going to walk out.

858
00:44:47,463 --> 00:44:52,873
♪

859
00:44:55,438 --> 00:45:00,815
♪

860
00:45:04,183 --> 00:45:06,854
So, Alice
is here with us tonight.

861
00:45:06,889 --> 00:45:10,253
And I know y'all really
like having Alice come in.

862
00:45:14,930 --> 00:45:16,963
Can you all
do something to show

863
00:45:16,998 --> 00:45:18,866
that you're happy
Alice is here?

864
00:45:23,334 --> 00:45:25,906
What we want to do tonight
is engage with you

865
00:45:25,941 --> 00:45:28,337
and understand who you are,
what your name is

866
00:45:28,372 --> 00:45:30,977
and why you're attached
to the house and the property.

867
00:45:31,012 --> 00:45:33,881
♪

868
00:45:37,986 --> 00:45:41,922
Is anyone here
a victim of the fire?

869
00:45:47,358 --> 00:45:49,831
Are you buried
on this property?

870
00:45:50,966 --> 00:45:53,164
Do you remember
the fire in this town?

871
00:45:55,938 --> 00:45:57,531
Do you understand
that this house,

872
00:45:57,566 --> 00:45:58,972
this-- this property,

873
00:45:59,007 --> 00:46:00,468
where we're
standing at right now,

874
00:46:00,503 --> 00:46:02,305
this is Alice's home.

875
00:46:04,012 --> 00:46:05,880
You're not supposed
to be here.

876
00:46:12,647 --> 00:46:14,416
-What was that?
-Did-- What happened?

877
00:46:14,451 --> 00:46:15,615
Did the light dim?

878
00:46:15,650 --> 00:46:17,254
I mean, something dimmed.

879
00:46:18,191 --> 00:46:21,093
Oh, I just thought
something dimmed.

880
00:46:21,128 --> 00:46:22,523
I thought
the room dimmed.

881
00:46:29,136 --> 00:46:31,202
Alice, they know
your voice better than anybody.

882
00:46:31,237 --> 00:46:33,567
So, any--
any, anything you have.

883
00:46:33,602 --> 00:46:35,107
Ask. Just--

884
00:46:36,275 --> 00:46:38,374
Okay,
is there anybody here

885
00:46:38,409 --> 00:46:40,211
who's never been
here before?

886
00:46:42,611 --> 00:46:45,018
Can you speak
so that we can hear you?

887
00:46:47,990 --> 00:46:50,386
-There you go. Ooh!

888
00:46:54,029 --> 00:46:55,490
That's pretty interesting.

889
00:46:56,295 --> 00:46:57,525
Yeah?

890
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:58,933
That was a pretty big hit, too.

891
00:46:58,968 --> 00:47:00,935
Three
of the lights lit up.

892
00:47:02,664 --> 00:47:05,005
We appreciate
any form of communication

893
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:06,633
-that you do.
-.

894
00:47:06,668 --> 00:47:08,206
-Like that.
-That's crazy.

895
00:47:11,277 --> 00:47:14,212
We're trying
to uncover who you are...

896
00:47:15,512 --> 00:47:17,050
and how
we can help you.

897
00:47:17,712 --> 00:47:18,986
So weird.

898
00:47:25,060 --> 00:47:26,554
Should probably all sit down.

899
00:47:26,589 --> 00:47:28,061
Alice.

900
00:47:29,493 --> 00:47:32,164
And it's interesting
that it's not going off

901
00:47:32,199 --> 00:47:33,935
now with Amy
right next to it.

902
00:47:36,005 --> 00:47:37,268
Walk over there again.

903
00:47:43,144 --> 00:47:44,638
Walk towards
the back door, Amy.

904
00:47:44,673 --> 00:47:46,244
Okay.

905
00:47:47,049 --> 00:47:48,312
You want her to go outside?

906
00:47:48,347 --> 00:47:49,742
-If you want her to go outsi--

907
00:47:49,777 --> 00:47:51,051
-Oh, look.
-Look how

908
00:47:51,086 --> 00:47:52,316
far away she is.

909
00:47:53,550 --> 00:47:55,253
Look how
far away she is.

910
00:47:55,288 --> 00:47:56,551
'Kay, that's weird.

911
00:48:07,168 --> 00:48:08,728
All right, let's--
let's-- let's transition.

912
00:48:08,763 --> 00:48:10,268
Let's leave this here.

913
00:48:10,303 --> 00:48:11,698
Let's leave this room pot
here in this chair,

914
00:48:11,733 --> 00:48:13,139
and we'll take
the full spectrum camera.

915
00:48:13,174 --> 00:48:15,108
And we'll sit out
in the backyard.

916
00:48:24,647 --> 00:48:30,024
♪

917
00:48:34,591 --> 00:48:37,394
That's a very old tree.

918
00:48:40,399 --> 00:48:42,135
It is.
I thought I was...

919
00:48:45,404 --> 00:48:46,469
Right there.

920
00:48:51,179 --> 00:48:52,475
We're trying to figure out

921
00:48:52,510 --> 00:48:56,413
if there is a body
buried in the ground--

922
00:49:11,826 --> 00:49:14,134
If you're buried here
on the property,

923
00:49:14,169 --> 00:49:16,532
can you come up
to this device

924
00:49:16,567 --> 00:49:18,072
and make it
light up?

925
00:49:19,768 --> 00:49:21,438
Why is that cat digging?

926
00:49:26,544 --> 00:49:27,576
It's interesting.

927
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,417
All right, y'all,
let's wrap it up

928
00:49:33,452 --> 00:49:35,485
and let's head back
into the house.

929
00:49:38,820 --> 00:49:40,622
That does not include
the kitty cat.

930
00:49:41,592 --> 00:49:43,361
No, cats stay here.

931
00:49:45,860 --> 00:49:47,464
Sure that cat's not hungry.

932
00:49:47,499 --> 00:49:48,696
Yeah.

933
00:49:48,731 --> 00:49:53,602
♪

934
00:49:54,671 --> 00:49:58,442
So, guys,
all of these red flags, right?

935
00:49:58,477 --> 00:50:01,412
That red flag,
the red flags, see 'em?

936
00:50:02,712 --> 00:50:04,712
Those are all
spots that

937
00:50:04,747 --> 00:50:06,813
the ground-penetrating radar

938
00:50:06,848 --> 00:50:08,683
detected that
there could be

939
00:50:08,718 --> 00:50:11,323
individual bodies
or burials.

940
00:50:11,358 --> 00:50:13,193
-Really?
-Yeah. Yep.

941
00:50:13,228 --> 00:50:16,856
Um, and even there,
that red flag right there.

942
00:50:16,891 --> 00:50:18,759
Now, the geophysicist

943
00:50:18,794 --> 00:50:21,201
found spots right here.

944
00:50:21,236 --> 00:50:24,138
She said that
there could be a body.

945
00:50:24,173 --> 00:50:26,371
-Oh, my goodness.
-Right here.

946
00:50:26,406 --> 00:50:27,504
So--

947
00:50:28,573 --> 00:50:30,144
Just when it hits me,

948
00:50:30,179 --> 00:50:31,508
the bodies is the most
intriguing thing to me.

949
00:50:31,543 --> 00:50:33,840
But it's-- so it's crazy,
so you're telling me that

950
00:50:33,875 --> 00:50:36,612
each red flag
is a potential body?

951
00:50:36,647 --> 00:50:38,218
Yeah. Yeah.

952
00:50:38,517 --> 00:50:41,188
We had
a geophysicist come here

953
00:50:41,223 --> 00:50:43,157
and she marked
some places that she thought

954
00:50:43,192 --> 00:50:45,291
were possible burial sites.

955
00:50:45,326 --> 00:50:47,293
We had ground-penetrating
radar come

956
00:50:47,328 --> 00:50:49,361
and he marked places
that he thought

957
00:50:49,396 --> 00:50:52,265
were possible unmarked graves.

958
00:50:52,300 --> 00:50:54,465
You know, doing research
with Mary Alice,

959
00:50:54,500 --> 00:50:57,600
it does seem that
this property could have been

960
00:50:57,635 --> 00:50:59,899
part of all
of these properties, honestly,

961
00:50:59,934 --> 00:51:02,836
part of
the original graveyard.

962
00:51:02,871 --> 00:51:05,773
And that everything
else was moved

963
00:51:05,808 --> 00:51:08,314
but they just
left the bodies.

964
00:51:08,349 --> 00:51:10,448
You know, that--
that is a possible scenario.

965
00:51:10,483 --> 00:51:12,714
So I wanted to see
if Alice and the team

966
00:51:12,749 --> 00:51:14,254
wanted to dig there.

967
00:51:14,289 --> 00:51:15,750
And that,
ethically, you know,

968
00:51:15,785 --> 00:51:17,587
that's a bit of a gray area.

969
00:51:17,622 --> 00:51:19,226
You know,
should you shouldn't you?

970
00:51:19,261 --> 00:51:20,887
But I thought
it would be important

971
00:51:20,922 --> 00:51:22,658
for a few different reasons.

972
00:51:22,693 --> 00:51:25,364
One, if we found something,
we could offer proper burial.

973
00:51:25,399 --> 00:51:28,730
We could do things
that could possibly get Alice

974
00:51:28,765 --> 00:51:31,568
to feel better in terms of
the phenomena happening here.

975
00:51:31,603 --> 00:51:33,933
And maybe show Alice
that it is something

976
00:51:33,968 --> 00:51:36,738
that is human in nature,
that it could have been

977
00:51:36,773 --> 00:51:38,311
a person that was once alive.

978
00:51:38,346 --> 00:51:40,544
And it's not
as scary as it could be

979
00:51:40,579 --> 00:51:43,316
if it was something that
she couldn't put a face to.

980
00:51:43,351 --> 00:51:45,582
If we did find any bodies

981
00:51:45,617 --> 00:51:48,288
or any remnants of
an old foundation or anything,

982
00:51:48,323 --> 00:51:50,620
that there was
a structure there at one point,

983
00:51:50,655 --> 00:51:53,326
it would make her
feel a little bit better.

984
00:51:53,361 --> 00:51:55,658
If it's bodies
that's more modern.

985
00:51:55,693 --> 00:51:58,859
There's a chance there may be
buried with personal items...

986
00:51:59,697 --> 00:52:01,994
and a metal detector
could possibly pick up

987
00:52:02,029 --> 00:52:04,337
buttons or rings.

988
00:52:04,372 --> 00:52:06,273
-It's just an idea.
-No, it's a good idea.

989
00:52:06,308 --> 00:52:07,538
Actually, that's a great idea.

990
00:52:07,573 --> 00:52:10,838
Because if you
do find artifacts, right?

991
00:52:10,873 --> 00:52:12,873
Like anything that looks like
it belonged to a family...

992
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,514
we can use those items
as trigger objects.

993
00:52:16,879 --> 00:52:19,286
Here's what we need to do
is get the excavator over here

994
00:52:19,321 --> 00:52:21,585
so we can start
getting it into the ground.

995
00:52:21,620 --> 00:52:23,752
And Alice, I can probably
use your metal detector.

996
00:52:23,787 --> 00:52:25,292
Yeah, you can.
I still have it.

997
00:52:25,327 --> 00:52:26,557
Okay. Beautiful.

998
00:52:26,592 --> 00:52:28,625
Brad, we'll get you
metal detecting

999
00:52:28,660 --> 00:52:31,463
and I'll go
get shovels and gloves.

1000
00:52:31,498 --> 00:52:33,630
-Let's get it!
-Yeah. Let-- let's get started.

1001
00:52:39,968 --> 00:52:42,507
I Just think there's
no other location in the world

1002
00:52:42,542 --> 00:52:44,509
that investigates
this hard, man.

1003
00:52:44,544 --> 00:52:49,580
♪

1004
00:52:56,919 --> 00:52:58,259
Ah.

1005
00:52:58,525 --> 00:53:00,591
Hold on tight. All right.

1006
00:53:00,626 --> 00:53:05,662
♪

1007
00:53:17,775 --> 00:53:22,811
♪

1008
00:53:29,952 --> 00:53:35,362
♪

1009
00:53:38,433 --> 00:53:41,995
Even though I've lost
the house to my personal use,

1010
00:53:42,030 --> 00:53:43,634
I do feel like
I've done the right thing

1011
00:53:43,669 --> 00:53:45,933
by just
opening it up to investigators.

1012
00:53:45,968 --> 00:53:47,704
I feel like at least,
you know, someone's getting

1013
00:53:47,739 --> 00:53:50,377
some benefit out of it,
which will be justified

1014
00:53:50,412 --> 00:53:52,071
in that something
really will be found.

1015
00:54:03,623 --> 00:54:08,659
♪

1016
00:54:09,893 --> 00:54:11,332
Hey, buddy.

1017
00:54:11,862 --> 00:54:13,763
-What's up, man?
-Hey, man.

1018
00:54:13,798 --> 00:54:15,028
How's it going?

1019
00:54:15,063 --> 00:54:16,964
I've known Dustin
for many, many years.

1020
00:54:16,999 --> 00:54:20,407
And he's a great investigator.
He's a good friend.

1021
00:54:20,442 --> 00:54:22,937
He's one
of the most kind people

1022
00:54:22,972 --> 00:54:25,577
I've ever met
and worked with.

1023
00:54:25,612 --> 00:54:27,711
I'm Dustin Perry.
I'm a paranormal researcher.

1024
00:54:27,746 --> 00:54:30,648
I've been investigating
for about 24 years.

1025
00:54:30,683 --> 00:54:32,045
I've traveled internationally.

1026
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:33,915
I've had opportunity
to investigate

1027
00:54:33,950 --> 00:54:35,719
in 27 different countries.

1028
00:54:35,754 --> 00:54:38,920
The first impression
of arriving at Alice's house

1029
00:54:38,955 --> 00:54:41,054
is it's very unassuming.

1030
00:54:41,089 --> 00:54:42,660
But I've learned
over the years,

1031
00:54:42,695 --> 00:54:45,564
the places that look
very unassuming often have

1032
00:54:45,599 --> 00:54:47,126
some interesting
activity going on.

1033
00:54:47,161 --> 00:54:48,666
-Dustin Perry.
-Hey Alice.

1034
00:54:48,701 --> 00:54:50,437
-How are you?
-Hey! How are you?

1035
00:54:50,472 --> 00:54:51,801
I'm very well.
I like to hug people.

1036
00:54:51,836 --> 00:54:53,737
Yeah, well this--
yeah this is Mississippi.

1037
00:54:53,772 --> 00:54:55,167
-We do too.
-Alice's house

1038
00:54:55,202 --> 00:54:56,971
is very unique
in the fact that

1039
00:54:57,006 --> 00:54:58,610
there's no
other place like it

1040
00:54:58,645 --> 00:55:01,140
in terms of
the amount of time

1041
00:55:01,175 --> 00:55:03,043
it's been allowed
to be investigated.

1042
00:55:03,078 --> 00:55:05,815
For me, the paranormal
is really a spiritual journey.

1043
00:55:05,850 --> 00:55:07,751
However, I try to look
at things scientifically

1044
00:55:07,786 --> 00:55:10,556
to disprove
and also to offer evidence

1045
00:55:10,591 --> 00:55:12,019
so people can understand.

1046
00:55:12,054 --> 00:55:17,431
♪

1047
00:55:24,935 --> 00:55:26,539
My name is Elizabeth Saint.

1048
00:55:26,574 --> 00:55:28,772
I have a background
in electrical engineering.

1049
00:55:28,807 --> 00:55:31,742
I've been investigating
the paranormal 10 years?

1050
00:55:31,777 --> 00:55:33,546
But it's always been
a part of my life.

1051
00:55:33,581 --> 00:55:35,075
-Hey, how's it going?
-Good. How are you?

1052
00:55:35,110 --> 00:55:36,879
-Good. I'm good.
-Oh, man! Thank you.

1053
00:55:36,914 --> 00:55:39,145
Elizabeth,
I've known for quite some time.

1054
00:55:39,180 --> 00:55:40,784
I've actually
never worked with her

1055
00:55:40,819 --> 00:55:43,787
but I know her background
in electrical engineering.

1056
00:55:43,822 --> 00:55:46,526
I know that she
likes to build equipment.

1057
00:55:46,561 --> 00:55:48,187
So, I thought it was
really important to have

1058
00:55:48,222 --> 00:55:50,662
somebody come in
that can build equipment

1059
00:55:50,697 --> 00:55:53,027
and tailor it
to certain experiences,

1060
00:55:53,062 --> 00:55:54,831
to certain types of phenomena.

1061
00:55:55,603 --> 00:55:57,669
Having a background
in electrical engineering

1062
00:55:57,704 --> 00:55:59,770
has actually been
really advantageous

1063
00:55:59,805 --> 00:56:01,233
when I go
on my investigations.

1064
00:56:01,268 --> 00:56:02,938
-Hi!
-I'm Alice.

1065
00:56:02,973 --> 00:56:04,808
-I'm Elizabeth.
-It's nice to meet you.

1066
00:56:04,843 --> 00:56:06,777
-It's great to meet you, too.
-Yeah, come on in.

1067
00:56:06,812 --> 00:56:08,713
You know, I look
at things a little differently.

1068
00:56:08,748 --> 00:56:11,650
Like, it's exciting
when you have an experience

1069
00:56:11,685 --> 00:56:14,653
but there's
always this side of me

1070
00:56:14,688 --> 00:56:16,754
that is looking
for another explanation.

1071
00:56:16,789 --> 00:56:18,690
I don't know a lot about you,
of your equipment

1072
00:56:18,725 --> 00:56:19,790
and electrical stuff
and all that.

1073
00:56:19,825 --> 00:56:21,187
But I think it's fascinating.

1074
00:56:21,222 --> 00:56:22,793
I would like to see

1075
00:56:22,828 --> 00:56:24,223
how it works
and see what you get.

1076
00:56:24,258 --> 00:56:26,962
I think it's great
that Alice is open

1077
00:56:26,997 --> 00:56:29,998
to the possibilities here
of what could be going on.

1078
00:56:30,033 --> 00:56:33,705
You know, a lot of times you go
to a residential location

1079
00:56:33,740 --> 00:56:35,542
and they already
have it in their mind

1080
00:56:35,577 --> 00:56:37,104
what they think is going on.

1081
00:56:37,139 --> 00:56:39,942
It doesn't leave a lot of room
for finding out real answers.

1082
00:56:40,747 --> 00:56:42,241
They're so
wrapped up in the idea

1083
00:56:42,276 --> 00:56:44,045
that this is the haunted place
and this happens

1084
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:45,585
and that happens.

1085
00:56:45,620 --> 00:56:47,884
And you can't possibly
show them anything else.

1086
00:56:47,919 --> 00:56:51,118
Where here, Miss Alice
and the team just want to know

1087
00:56:51,153 --> 00:56:52,185
what's causing these things.

1088
00:56:52,220 --> 00:56:53,593
Is it natural?

1089
00:56:53,628 --> 00:56:54,990
Is it some
supernatural phenomenon?

1090
00:56:55,025 --> 00:56:57,058
Or-- It's nice
that it's not like, "This is--

1091
00:56:57,093 --> 00:56:59,258
There's a portal,
there's a demon," and like,

1092
00:56:59,293 --> 00:57:01,161
you know,
it goes down that-- that road.

1093
00:57:01,196 --> 00:57:02,767
Here, it's not like that.

1094
00:57:02,802 --> 00:57:04,604
People are just so excited
to get the evidence.

1095
00:57:04,639 --> 00:57:06,606
And I am with you
100% on that.

1096
00:57:06,641 --> 00:57:08,069
Like,
I am also very excited

1097
00:57:08,104 --> 00:57:10,808
but let's have it be real

1098
00:57:10,843 --> 00:57:12,645
so that we feel
better about the work

1099
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:13,943
that we're doing
in this field.

1100
00:57:16,244 --> 00:57:19,014
So this has
an accelerometer inside

1101
00:57:19,049 --> 00:57:22,182
that pretty much is a center
that monitors any movement.

1102
00:57:29,257 --> 00:57:30,762
Do any of these
balls ever move?

1103
00:57:30,797 --> 00:57:32,159
The ones that are back here?
Yeah?

1104
00:57:32,194 --> 00:57:33,732
Not from back there.
Just--

1105
00:57:33,767 --> 00:57:34,964
Yeah, when they're--
Just the stairwell?

1106
00:57:34,999 --> 00:57:36,295
Yeah.

1107
00:57:36,330 --> 00:57:37,901
Other balls
have moved, too?

1108
00:57:37,936 --> 00:57:39,672
Well, if-- if-- Whatever
we asked, those--

1109
00:57:39,707 --> 00:57:41,168
-Hello!
-Hey, man!

1110
00:57:41,203 --> 00:57:42,576
-How's it going?
-Hey, hey!

1111
00:57:42,611 --> 00:57:43,777
-How you doing? Dustin.
-Man.

1112
00:57:43,812 --> 00:57:45,645
-Good to see you.
-Good to see you, man.

1113
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:46,910
-What's up?
-Nice to meet you.

1114
00:57:46,945 --> 00:57:48,241
-Nice to meet you as well--
-Hey!

1115
00:57:48,276 --> 00:57:49,814
-Hey!
-How are you?

1116
00:57:49,849 --> 00:57:51,310
-Elizabeth.
-I know who you are.

1117
00:57:51,345 --> 00:57:52,850
-So nice to meet you.
-Nice to meet you, too.

1118
00:57:52,885 --> 00:57:54,654
Great to see you guys.

1119
00:57:54,689 --> 00:57:55,919
Something I love
about Brad and John

1120
00:57:55,954 --> 00:57:57,283
is, honestly,
they're so compelled

1121
00:57:57,318 --> 00:57:59,021
to find Alice answers.

1122
00:57:59,353 --> 00:58:02,189
When it comes to the equipment
in the paranormal community,

1123
00:58:02,224 --> 00:58:03,960
it's very, very limited.

1124
00:58:04,666 --> 00:58:06,061
You have to understand, like,

1125
00:58:06,096 --> 00:58:09,702
these are items that are
being mass produced for sale.

1126
00:58:10,034 --> 00:58:11,671
You know?

1127
00:58:11,706 --> 00:58:13,904
They're not sent data sheets
on what kind of sensors

1128
00:58:13,939 --> 00:58:15,873
are involved
inside the equipment.

1129
00:58:16,238 --> 00:58:18,073
You know, I kind of feel
one of the biggest problems

1130
00:58:18,108 --> 00:58:20,944
with paranormal research
is that everyone's always,

1131
00:58:20,979 --> 00:58:23,210
as I say,
singing from the same hymnal.

1132
00:58:23,245 --> 00:58:24,750
You know,
we get all these devices

1133
00:58:24,785 --> 00:58:26,246
and what do we do
to make new ones?

1134
00:58:26,281 --> 00:58:28,083
We just put
a new light on it.

1135
00:58:28,118 --> 00:58:30,954
You see some lights go off,
you hear an alarm go off.

1136
00:58:30,989 --> 00:58:34,320
And you're like, "Ooh, ah,"
like, "There's something here."

1137
00:58:34,355 --> 00:58:35,926
But that's not the case.

1138
00:58:35,961 --> 00:58:37,290
You know, like,
there's so many other factors

1139
00:58:37,325 --> 00:58:39,094
to take
into consideration.

1140
00:58:39,129 --> 00:58:40,359
Or we combined, you know--

1141
00:58:40,394 --> 00:58:41,833
"Now it has
two features in one."

1142
00:58:41,868 --> 00:58:43,131
It's like,
but it's really nothing new.

1143
00:58:43,166 --> 00:58:44,638
It's the same thing.

1144
00:58:44,673 --> 00:58:46,134
And I think that...

1145
00:58:47,335 --> 00:58:48,840
there has to be expansion

1146
00:58:48,875 --> 00:58:51,172
outside of the community
to kind of understand

1147
00:58:51,207 --> 00:58:52,877
the tools that they're using.

1148
00:58:53,209 --> 00:58:55,176
And to also understand

1149
00:58:55,211 --> 00:58:56,683
all the false positives

1150
00:58:56,718 --> 00:58:58,311
that they are getting
in the process.

1151
00:58:58,852 --> 00:59:00,852
Coming to the house,
I did want to create

1152
00:59:00,887 --> 00:59:03,690
and-- and kind of customize
things that made sense

1153
00:59:03,725 --> 00:59:05,956
to what you guys
experience here, you know?

1154
00:59:05,991 --> 00:59:08,024
And everything
that you documented before.

1155
00:59:08,763 --> 00:59:10,730
And, you know, I--

1156
00:59:10,765 --> 00:59:13,425
I like to
sometimes do things

1157
00:59:13,460 --> 00:59:15,834
that other people
wouldn't necessarily do

1158
00:59:15,869 --> 00:59:17,297
just because
if we don't try it,

1159
00:59:17,332 --> 00:59:18,903
we won't know
what's going to work.

1160
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,400
I have great respect
for Elizabeth Saint,

1161
00:59:21,435 --> 00:59:22,940
having known her
over the years,

1162
00:59:22,975 --> 00:59:24,436
having traveled from,
you know,

1163
00:59:24,471 --> 00:59:26,141
conventions
and things together

1164
00:59:26,176 --> 00:59:28,341
and knowing that Elizabeth
goes out of her way

1165
00:59:28,376 --> 00:59:30,079
to make specific equipment

1166
00:59:30,114 --> 00:59:32,246
like the light anomaly
that's here.

1167
00:59:32,281 --> 00:59:36,019
This is the-- the light sensor
I told you about.

1168
00:59:36,054 --> 00:59:38,857
So maybe if we do see
any light anomalies,

1169
00:59:38,892 --> 00:59:40,925
we might be able to--
It'll let us know

1170
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,796
by the color
that it shines, essentially.

1171
00:59:43,831 --> 00:59:45,897
She developed something
to look for those lights

1172
00:59:45,932 --> 00:59:47,899
and then to try to figure out
which color lights it is.

1173
00:59:47,934 --> 00:59:49,769
And it lights up responsively.

1174
00:59:49,804 --> 00:59:50,935
And the most famous thing,

1175
00:59:50,970 --> 00:59:52,299
the ball moving
down the stairs.

1176
00:59:52,334 --> 00:59:54,268
So she makes
a ball that she can

1177
00:59:54,303 --> 00:59:55,874
measure any slight movement.

1178
00:59:55,909 --> 00:59:58,239
So, what's
unique about this is, um,

1179
00:59:58,274 --> 00:59:59,405
I call it
the comm sphere.

1180
00:59:59,979 --> 01:00:02,881
And it actually
communicates with my phone.

1181
01:00:02,916 --> 01:00:06,280
The Y x or Z axis and it
goes right to her software.

1182
01:00:06,315 --> 01:00:07,347
And it sends her an alert.

1183
01:00:07,382 --> 01:00:09,118
So it'll show me values

1184
01:00:09,153 --> 01:00:12,825
in the X, Y, Z direction,
if it moves.

1185
01:00:12,860 --> 01:00:15,927
To have the passion to say,

1186
01:00:15,962 --> 01:00:17,423
"I'm doing this case.

1187
01:00:17,458 --> 01:00:19,128
What's the type of activity?

1188
01:00:19,163 --> 01:00:21,097
What can I make
specifically that will speak

1189
01:00:21,132 --> 01:00:24,067
to trying to measure
that type of activity?"

1190
01:00:24,102 --> 01:00:25,805
I mean, that's--
I have trouble

1191
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:27,367
getting on the Wi-Fi sometimes.

1192
01:00:27,402 --> 01:00:29,105
She's like,
light years above that.

1193
01:00:29,140 --> 01:00:32,075
So, I've known Dustin Perry
for a few years now.

1194
01:00:32,110 --> 01:00:34,814
And we've
always seen each other like,

1195
01:00:34,849 --> 01:00:36,310
on the road or,
you know,

1196
01:00:36,345 --> 01:00:37,982
the--
the paranormal community

1197
01:00:38,017 --> 01:00:39,786
is very, like,
tight knit community,

1198
01:00:39,821 --> 01:00:41,018
so we've always
run into each other.

1199
01:00:41,053 --> 01:00:42,954
But I've never
had the opportunity

1200
01:00:42,989 --> 01:00:45,484
to actually work with him,
so I'm really excited

1201
01:00:45,519 --> 01:00:47,288
that I'll be
able to do that here.

1202
01:00:47,323 --> 01:00:48,960
Um, Alice.

1203
01:00:48,995 --> 01:00:50,423
She seems to really
embrace what's going on here,

1204
01:00:50,458 --> 01:00:53,162
which is odd because she also
seems to be afraid of it.

1205
01:00:53,197 --> 01:00:55,901
And all I want to do
is go upstairs and to the left.

1206
01:00:55,936 --> 01:00:57,199
Ever since
I've walked in the house.

1207
01:00:57,234 --> 01:00:58,431
-Really?
-Yeah.

1208
01:00:58,466 --> 01:00:59,465
When I first
walked into the house,

1209
01:00:59,500 --> 01:01:00,532
I even told her that.

1210
01:01:00,567 --> 01:01:02,006
When I first walked in,

1211
01:01:02,041 --> 01:01:04,371
I was immediately
drawn to that door frame.

1212
01:01:04,406 --> 01:01:05,845
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

1213
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:07,275
Just based on
years of experience

1214
01:01:07,310 --> 01:01:08,441
and feeling
drawn to places

1215
01:01:08,476 --> 01:01:10,146
like that seems
to be the place.

1216
01:01:10,181 --> 01:01:12,016
-Me too. Yeah.
-So.

1217
01:01:14,152 --> 01:01:16,119
Just a couple
of trip hazards here.

1218
01:01:16,154 --> 01:01:17,219
Yeah.

1219
01:01:17,254 --> 01:01:21,828
♪

1220
01:01:21,863 --> 01:01:23,060
It's interesting too,
because we have

1221
01:01:23,095 --> 01:01:24,457
the three mirrors
like you said here.

1222
01:01:24,492 --> 01:01:26,096
And then,
there's another right there.

1223
01:01:26,131 --> 01:01:28,296
I was just trying to think
for light purposes too

1224
01:01:28,331 --> 01:01:29,561
but if the door's closed,

1225
01:01:29,596 --> 01:01:30,903
she does have this-- What?

1226
01:01:30,938 --> 01:01:32,234
Is this is a balcony area?

1227
01:01:32,566 --> 01:01:33,906
I--

1228
01:01:33,941 --> 01:01:35,138
But there's no road there.

1229
01:01:35,173 --> 01:01:36,403
So, you're
not getting any, like,

1230
01:01:36,438 --> 01:01:37,338
car light
coming in through there?

1231
01:01:37,373 --> 01:01:38,438
No.

1232
01:01:39,607 --> 01:01:41,980
Because I was just trying
to think for bouncing light.

1233
01:01:42,015 --> 01:01:44,147
We are close
to the road in the front.

1234
01:01:47,053 --> 01:01:48,250
Watch that wire.

1235
01:01:51,618 --> 01:01:53,321
It's just
a-- a walk-in?

1236
01:01:56,557 --> 01:01:58,029
What's with all the mirrors?

1237
01:01:58,064 --> 01:01:59,459
There's one on the floor.

1238
01:02:00,198 --> 01:02:03,166
I don't know.
There is a crawlspace.

1239
01:02:04,972 --> 01:02:06,202
-Oh, is there?
-Yeah.

1240
01:02:09,339 --> 01:02:12,076
I-- I can't really open it.
Stay right there.

1241
01:02:12,474 --> 01:02:14,012
Do you know
if anyone's ever been?

1242
01:02:14,509 --> 01:02:16,212
No one's gone
in the crawlspace?

1243
01:02:16,511 --> 01:02:18,247
We have to go
in the crawlspace.

1244
01:02:18,282 --> 01:02:20,216
Yeah, we definitely
have to go in the crawlspace.

1245
01:02:20,251 --> 01:02:21,954
-Is there asbestos?
-Uh, no. That's uh--

1246
01:02:21,989 --> 01:02:23,318
It was put in the 90s.
That's pink.

1247
01:02:23,353 --> 01:02:25,089
-Oh, yeah.
-Yeah. Oh.

1248
01:02:25,927 --> 01:02:27,289
What is it?

1249
01:02:27,324 --> 01:02:28,961
All my hair's
just standing up there.

1250
01:02:28,996 --> 01:02:30,226
It is.

1251
01:02:30,932 --> 01:02:32,591
Like, it just felt like
something, like, grazed me

1252
01:02:32,626 --> 01:02:34,395
and I just
looked down and everything...

1253
01:02:35,068 --> 01:02:36,298
That's so weird.

1254
01:02:36,333 --> 01:02:37,871
It still
feels like more is going.

1255
01:02:38,632 --> 01:02:40,269
It's like you're about
to get electrocuted.

1256
01:02:40,304 --> 01:02:41,875
-Right.
-But right before,

1257
01:02:41,910 --> 01:02:43,107
you know,
you get struck by lightning

1258
01:02:43,142 --> 01:02:44,570
-a lot of times your--
-Yeah.

1259
01:02:44,605 --> 01:02:45,879
-Hair will--
-Yeah, it all did.

1260
01:02:46,211 --> 01:02:47,408
Hair will stand up.

1261
01:02:48,114 --> 01:02:49,410
-That's odd.
-It's weird

1262
01:02:49,445 --> 01:02:50,609
that no one's
been in there.

1263
01:02:50,644 --> 01:02:52,050
I know, right?
For sure.

1264
01:02:52,382 --> 01:02:53,986
Jeez. I'm breaking things.

1265
01:02:56,089 --> 01:02:57,616
It doesn't go
too far back but I mean,

1266
01:02:57,651 --> 01:02:59,090
we could definitely
sit in there and do,

1267
01:02:59,125 --> 01:03:00,355
like an EVP session
or something.

1268
01:03:00,390 --> 01:03:03,094
-Yeah, I think we should.
-Yeah.

1269
01:03:06,935 --> 01:03:09,199
If there's anybody here
that could hear our voice,

1270
01:03:09,234 --> 01:03:12,268
are you able to communicate
by just knocking for us?

1271
01:03:13,502 --> 01:03:14,908
Can you do
something like that?

1272
01:03:26,581 --> 01:03:27,646
How 'bout in here?

1273
01:03:30,684 --> 01:03:32,288
Well,
you heard that, right?

1274
01:03:33,324 --> 01:03:34,928
It sounded
like it was in this--

1275
01:03:34,963 --> 01:03:36,589
-It sounded inside.
-Yeah.

1276
01:03:38,692 --> 01:03:39,933
Is that a woman's voice?

1277
01:03:40,969 --> 01:03:42,035
-I-- I heard a--
-I heard a knock.

1278
01:03:42,070 --> 01:03:44,201
It sounded like it was
maybe like, a woman's voice

1279
01:03:44,236 --> 01:03:45,433
or something
right before it.

1280
01:03:48,405 --> 01:03:50,306
This happens quick.

1281
01:03:52,046 --> 01:03:54,244
I think we get some good
starting points of ideas

1282
01:03:54,279 --> 01:03:56,411
in terms of trying to do
a focused investigation.

1283
01:03:56,446 --> 01:03:58,281
This area
has already been pretty hot.

1284
01:03:58,316 --> 01:03:59,986
-Yeah.
-We've had knocks and response.

1285
01:04:00,021 --> 01:04:02,549
So, if we do
a session in the crawlspace.

1286
01:04:02,584 --> 01:04:05,420
-Uh-huh.
-Use your ion charger,

1287
01:04:05,455 --> 01:04:08,027
throw that in there for a while
and then repeat the session.

1288
01:04:08,062 --> 01:04:09,589
Right.
And see if there's a change.

1289
01:04:09,624 --> 01:04:11,426
-Yeah.
-I think that's smart.

1290
01:04:11,461 --> 01:04:14,330
I used to have an ion generator
in my bedroom when I was a kid.

1291
01:04:14,365 --> 01:04:16,431
It was like an air purifier
and ion generator.

1292
01:04:16,730 --> 01:04:18,301
I don't know.
My mom bought it on QVC.

1293
01:04:18,336 --> 01:04:20,402
-Okay.
-But it was-- it was nice.

1294
01:04:21,372 --> 01:04:23,438
With ion motors,
it's very interesting.

1295
01:04:23,473 --> 01:04:25,011
Like the one I have,

1296
01:04:25,046 --> 01:04:27,112
you can make it
so it's producing positive

1297
01:04:27,147 --> 01:04:29,477
but you can also make it so
it's producing negative ions.

1298
01:04:29,512 --> 01:04:31,116
And it's going to have
a different feeling

1299
01:04:31,151 --> 01:04:32,216
and a different effect.

1300
01:04:32,251 --> 01:04:34,218
I did bring an ion motor,

1301
01:04:34,253 --> 01:04:37,056
but, um, the one I have
is pretty serious.

1302
01:04:37,091 --> 01:04:38,486
Yeah? I love it!

1303
01:04:38,521 --> 01:04:41,126
"I don't want to brag
but the ion motor I have--"

1304
01:04:41,161 --> 01:04:43,326
It's little
but it packs a punch.

1305
01:04:44,065 --> 01:04:45,658
You're going to
go out that way?

1306
01:04:45,693 --> 01:04:47,066
-Yes.
-Or not.

1307
01:04:48,795 --> 01:04:51,004
Which one
will go to the garage?

1308
01:04:51,039 --> 01:04:52,500
I don't know
which door's which.

1309
01:04:52,535 --> 01:04:53,732
It's like a labyrinth.

1310
01:04:53,767 --> 01:04:55,107
show already.

1311
01:04:55,142 --> 01:04:56,075
Yeah.
I go here, there.

1312
01:05:04,679 --> 01:05:06,118
What's all this?

1313
01:05:07,253 --> 01:05:08,450
You guys
digging out here?

1314
01:05:15,162 --> 01:05:16,425
Wait, stop for a second.

1315
01:05:17,263 --> 01:05:19,263
-Do you hear that?

1316
01:05:19,298 --> 01:05:21,232
-What was it?
-Someone's whistling.

1317
01:05:21,564 --> 01:05:23,234
Oh, whistling? Yeah.

1318
01:05:23,764 --> 01:05:25,170
Hello?

1319
01:05:31,574 --> 01:05:32,607
That's what I heard.

1320
01:05:35,380 --> 01:05:37,050
-Well, let me get--
-There, there, there.

1321
01:05:37,085 --> 01:05:38,414
-You don't hear that?

1322
01:05:38,449 --> 01:05:39,745
-I heard it.
-You did?

1323
01:05:39,780 --> 01:05:41,186
Yeah.

1324
01:05:41,716 --> 01:05:43,518
-It was the same tune.
-Yeah.

1325
01:05:46,820 --> 01:05:48,358
That's so weird.

1326
01:05:54,168 --> 01:05:56,102
-Why that tune?
-I know, right?

1327
01:05:56,137 --> 01:05:58,434
-Frère Jacques.
-It is Frère Jacques.

1328
01:06:04,178 --> 01:06:05,573
Is there
something moving back there?

1329
01:06:06,213 --> 01:06:07,575
Totally
noise to my right--

1330
01:06:07,610 --> 01:06:09,280
It sounds
like someone's walking.

1331
01:06:09,315 --> 01:06:10,248
There's something
just ran across there.

1332
01:06:14,452 --> 01:06:17,156
I-- I saw something go
like straight across.

1333
01:06:20,128 --> 01:06:22,062
It's a real
person or what?

1334
01:06:22,889 --> 01:06:24,625
Oh, man.

1335
01:06:24,660 --> 01:06:26,660
I heard a woman's voice
over there a couple times.

1336
01:06:26,695 --> 01:06:28,530
You know, Alice,
one thing I will say, though,

1337
01:06:28,565 --> 01:06:31,698
despite all the kind of
touch and go, little bits of,

1338
01:06:31,733 --> 01:06:33,799
of activity even inside.

1339
01:06:33,834 --> 01:06:35,735
Like, I don't know,
for me personally,

1340
01:06:35,770 --> 01:06:37,308
I don't feel
anything that feels like,

1341
01:06:37,343 --> 01:06:39,541
threatening or-- or--
or angry in any way.

1342
01:06:39,576 --> 01:06:41,345
My neighbor said--
she said all these

1343
01:06:41,380 --> 01:06:42,841
they like thinking
she sees people.

1344
01:06:42,876 --> 01:06:44,414
She gets out there,
there's nobody there.

1345
01:06:44,449 --> 01:06:46,548
There's no reading's,
like, out here,

1346
01:06:46,583 --> 01:06:49,551
but out here
we had this strange whistling.

1347
01:06:49,586 --> 01:06:51,289
-Yeah.
-Sounded like people were

1348
01:06:51,324 --> 01:06:53,192
having conversation back there.

1349
01:06:53,689 --> 01:06:54,754
Also a female voice.

1350
01:06:55,957 --> 01:06:59,462
Um, we heard,
like, footsteps, it seems like.

1351
01:06:59,497 --> 01:07:01,563
You know,
coming back tomorrow

1352
01:07:01,598 --> 01:07:03,499
with more equipment,

1353
01:07:03,534 --> 01:07:05,336
I will be curious to see

1354
01:07:05,371 --> 01:07:07,569
if it responds the same.

1355
01:07:07,604 --> 01:07:09,373
I'm thrilled that you came,
both of you.

1356
01:07:09,408 --> 01:07:10,902
Yeah.
Thank you for having us.

1357
01:07:10,937 --> 01:07:12,343
Thank you very much.
We appreciate it.

1358
01:07:12,378 --> 01:07:15,379
Oh, yeah.
It was our-- our pleasure.

1359
01:07:16,778 --> 01:07:18,151
And we
get to meet Jacques.

1360
01:07:18,186 --> 01:07:19,482
We have a new person
on the team.

1361
01:07:19,517 --> 01:07:21,220
Yeah.
Your little mascot.

1362
01:07:21,255 --> 01:07:22,518
Helps us
dig holes and stuff.

1363
01:07:22,949 --> 01:07:24,751
That's right.
Dig and fill them.

1364
01:07:24,786 --> 01:07:27,424
Yes. Yes.
At least he's courteous.

1365
01:07:27,459 --> 01:07:29,129
Yeah,
that's very nice.

1366
01:07:32,431 --> 01:07:37,467
♪

1367
01:07:45,279 --> 01:07:46,509
Florence,

1368
01:07:46,544 --> 01:07:48,676
a small town
in central Mississippi.

1369
01:07:49,811 --> 01:07:51,250
Maybe you've
never heard of it.

1370
01:07:52,814 --> 01:07:54,286
It has history.

1371
01:07:54,717 --> 01:07:56,453
Some dark history as well.

1372
01:07:56,950 --> 01:07:58,686
There were outlaws here.

1373
01:07:59,359 --> 01:08:02,393
Bad men, charlatans,

1374
01:08:02,428 --> 01:08:04,362
those who would
steal your money.

1375
01:08:04,826 --> 01:08:06,199
Those who would
take your life.

1376
01:08:06,564 --> 01:08:09,268
And like most good stories,
this story happens

1377
01:08:09,303 --> 01:08:11,270
long ago in a place
far away.

1378
01:08:11,305 --> 01:08:12,733
Western South Carolina.

1379
01:08:13,307 --> 01:08:15,637
A ma'am named Nancy Lusk.

1380
01:08:15,969 --> 01:08:17,507
Her middle name was Agnes.

1381
01:08:17,542 --> 01:08:19,212
And I believe
she actually went by Agnes.

1382
01:08:19,247 --> 01:08:21,511
She was born
in a time of war.

1383
01:08:21,546 --> 01:08:23,513
She came of age
in the events

1384
01:08:23,548 --> 01:08:25,680
leading up
to the American Revolution.

1385
01:08:26,452 --> 01:08:27,946
She was 19 years old.

1386
01:08:27,981 --> 01:08:29,849
She warred-- married
a man named William Steen.

1387
01:08:30,555 --> 01:08:31,950
William Steen
will actually fight

1388
01:08:31,985 --> 01:08:33,358
in the American Revolution

1389
01:08:33,393 --> 01:08:34,854
at the Battle
of Kings Mountain.

1390
01:08:34,889 --> 01:08:38,297
So about 1810, William decides
to take his family West

1391
01:08:38,332 --> 01:08:40,431
into the new
Mississippi territory,

1392
01:08:40,466 --> 01:08:42,400
where the land
is rich and fertile.

1393
01:08:42,798 --> 01:08:43,962
During this interval,

1394
01:08:43,997 --> 01:08:45,568
one of these mules
comes up missing.

1395
01:08:45,603 --> 01:08:47,669
So he goes out
looking for his mule

1396
01:08:47,704 --> 01:08:48,769
and he never returns.

1397
01:08:50,641 --> 01:08:52,839
It was believed
that he might have been killed

1398
01:08:52,874 --> 01:08:54,346
by the Native Americans

1399
01:08:54,381 --> 01:08:55,941
who still claim
this land as their own.

1400
01:08:55,976 --> 01:08:57,877
But nobody
really knows for certain.

1401
01:08:57,912 --> 01:08:59,615
But nonetheless,
he never returns.

1402
01:08:59,650 --> 01:09:02,453
And so Agnes is now
the matriarch of the family

1403
01:09:02,488 --> 01:09:04,818
and she and the rest
for grown children

1404
01:09:04,853 --> 01:09:06,820
push on
and complete the journey.

1405
01:09:07,493 --> 01:09:08,888
And they settle here.

1406
01:09:08,923 --> 01:09:10,527
And since they settle,
first settlers,

1407
01:09:10,562 --> 01:09:12,364
it becomes known
as Steen's Creek.

1408
01:09:12,696 --> 01:09:15,433
Uh, by the turn
of the 20th century,

1409
01:09:15,468 --> 01:09:17,633
this area has been known
as Steen Creek for a while.

1410
01:09:18,306 --> 01:09:20,504
And there's
a new rail line coming through.

1411
01:09:21,474 --> 01:09:22,968
They're going
to build a railroad track

1412
01:09:23,003 --> 01:09:25,542
from the Gulf Coast up into
the capital city of Jackson,

1413
01:09:25,577 --> 01:09:26,873
a few miles
north of here.

1414
01:09:26,908 --> 01:09:29,007
Uh, one gentleman,
Mr. Ellis,

1415
01:09:29,042 --> 01:09:31,614
will donate
the land for the depot

1416
01:09:31,649 --> 01:09:32,582
on one condition.

1417
01:09:32,617 --> 01:09:35,288
He wants that depot
named after his wife.

1418
01:09:35,818 --> 01:09:38,456
Willing to take the free land,
whatever they can,

1419
01:09:38,491 --> 01:09:41,360
the depot is actually named
Florence Depot

1420
01:09:41,395 --> 01:09:43,362
rather than Steen's Creek.

1421
01:09:46,433 --> 01:09:48,026
Most of American
history and again,

1422
01:09:48,061 --> 01:09:49,500
the history
of the world is made--

1423
01:09:49,535 --> 01:09:50,831
It's been a man's world.

1424
01:09:51,405 --> 01:09:53,372
The men take the credit
and are the kings.

1425
01:09:53,407 --> 01:09:55,066
They're the soldiers,
they're the ones that go off

1426
01:09:55,101 --> 01:09:57,607
and everybody
raves about them.

1427
01:09:57,642 --> 01:10:00,511
But back there in--
Behind them in the shadows

1428
01:10:00,546 --> 01:10:02,040
have always been the women

1429
01:10:02,075 --> 01:10:04,581
making sure
the farm is still running,

1430
01:10:04,616 --> 01:10:07,584
making sure there's food
still heading out to the front,

1431
01:10:07,619 --> 01:10:10,455
making sure the hard
decisions are being made.

1432
01:10:10,919 --> 01:10:13,722
The hand that rocks
the cradle rules the world.

1433
01:10:16,364 --> 01:10:18,826
And now it's 1905.

1434
01:10:19,367 --> 01:10:20,531
We're going
to build a city.

1435
01:10:20,566 --> 01:10:21,796
What are we going to call it?

1436
01:10:21,831 --> 01:10:24,370
And I suspect,
I don't know for certain,

1437
01:10:24,405 --> 01:10:25,932
but I suspect
by this time a lot of people

1438
01:10:25,967 --> 01:10:27,604
had started referring to it

1439
01:10:27,639 --> 01:10:29,540
by the name of the Depot,
Florence.

1440
01:10:29,575 --> 01:10:31,740
And the City
of Florence was born.

1441
01:10:31,775 --> 01:10:35,073
Founded by a woman
and named for a woman.

1442
01:10:35,108 --> 01:10:40,485
♪

1443
01:10:42,852 --> 01:10:45,083
Mary Alice? Hi.

1444
01:10:47,153 --> 01:10:49,461
I, uh-- I have
these for you.

1445
01:10:49,892 --> 01:10:52,563
Um, thank you for making time

1446
01:10:52,598 --> 01:10:54,631
to meet with us again.

1447
01:10:54,666 --> 01:10:56,699
We've had
really incredible researchers

1448
01:10:56,734 --> 01:10:58,833
do a deep dive
with some of the Steen history.

1449
01:10:58,868 --> 01:11:01,902
Florence husband, C Ellis...

1450
01:11:01,937 --> 01:11:04,674
And, um, they found
some old photographs.

1451
01:11:04,709 --> 01:11:07,578
Gave the land
to the railroad company.

1452
01:11:07,613 --> 01:11:11,076
The Steen family is a very--
Well, the Steen name

1453
01:11:11,111 --> 01:11:14,046
is a very,
very well known name

1454
01:11:14,081 --> 01:11:15,487
in the Florence area.

1455
01:11:15,522 --> 01:11:16,917
In fact,
there's a lot of streets named

1456
01:11:16,952 --> 01:11:18,688
Steen this, Steen that,

1457
01:11:18,723 --> 01:11:20,019
Steen Creek.

1458
01:11:20,054 --> 01:11:23,429
Do you think Mr. Steen

1459
01:11:23,464 --> 01:11:25,629
or Mrs. Steen

1460
01:11:25,664 --> 01:11:28,434
has anything to do
with the haunting here?

1461
01:11:29,998 --> 01:11:33,868
I don't know if the Steens
have anything to do

1462
01:11:33,903 --> 01:11:35,474
with the haunting here.

1463
01:11:35,509 --> 01:11:38,873
We have had
some EVP's with Henry.

1464
01:11:38,908 --> 01:11:41,975
Henry Steen is somebody
that I've called out,

1465
01:11:42,010 --> 01:11:43,449
uh, to several times.

1466
01:11:43,484 --> 01:11:46,012
We've captured
an EVP voice recording

1467
01:11:46,047 --> 01:11:48,146
that did say Henry,
obviously.

1468
01:11:48,181 --> 01:11:51,688
And Henry Steen
is one Steen families.

1469
01:11:52,526 --> 01:11:54,460
Can you tell us
what your name is?

1470
01:11:55,529 --> 01:11:56,891
<i> Henry.</i>

1471
01:11:57,564 --> 01:11:59,432
You know,
there is definitely a--

1472
01:11:59,467 --> 01:12:02,633
a pattern of the male,
whether it's the apparition,

1473
01:12:02,668 --> 01:12:03,931
whether it's the voice.

1474
01:12:03,966 --> 01:12:09,002
♪

1475
01:12:15,043 --> 01:12:17,615
Hearing Henry
kind of validates

1476
01:12:17,650 --> 01:12:19,815
and kind of puts
things in perspective.

1477
01:12:20,246 --> 01:12:22,620
So that's possible.

1478
01:12:23,018 --> 01:12:25,788
There is a lot of Henrys
in the world, though.

1479
01:12:42,576 --> 01:12:43,806
That's interesting.

1480
01:12:44,710 --> 01:12:47,480
It's not metal
but it's fabric of some kind.

1481
01:12:48,714 --> 01:12:49,614
So...

1482
01:12:50,717 --> 01:12:53,684
I found this while the detector
picked up the metal.

1483
01:12:53,719 --> 01:12:55,752
What's interesting
even more to me,

1484
01:12:55,787 --> 01:12:57,556
this looks like
it's some kind of fabric.

1485
01:13:00,858 --> 01:13:03,529
It's really kind--
It's really sensitive.

1486
01:13:03,564 --> 01:13:06,125
Oh. Oh, yeah.

1487
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:07,665
It's hard to tell.

1488
01:13:11,165 --> 01:13:12,637
Be very gentle.

1489
01:13:24,112 --> 01:13:26,486
Oh! Oh!

1490
01:13:27,753 --> 01:13:30,622
But what's intriguing about,
about what this object is

1491
01:13:30,657 --> 01:13:32,822
is the fact
that it was so deep.

1492
01:13:32,857 --> 01:13:35,154
Well,
does it feel like ?

1493
01:13:36,058 --> 01:13:37,926
Oh, it's even got a--
Oh, my goodness. What's it say?

1494
01:13:37,961 --> 01:13:39,290
Oh, it's got
something fancy on it.

1495
01:13:39,325 --> 01:13:40,764
Oh, it's got letters on it.

1496
01:13:41,195 --> 01:13:42,667
Because it is .

1497
01:13:47,168 --> 01:13:48,640
Right there underneath.

1498
01:13:51,304 --> 01:13:52,611
There you go, Sabrina.

1499
01:14:01,952 --> 01:14:04,183
It's almost
like a fake.

1500
01:14:06,286 --> 01:14:11,927
♪

1501
01:14:25,074 --> 01:14:26,106
That's weird.

1502
01:14:26,944 --> 01:14:28,944
-It's definitely metal.
-Yeah.

1503
01:14:34,215 --> 01:14:35,918
Oh, boy.
Is that jewelry?

1504
01:14:35,953 --> 01:14:39,086
I think so,
it might be a ring.

1505
01:14:45,226 --> 01:14:46,632
68.

1506
01:14:47,195 --> 01:14:49,228
Silver usually
rings around 70.

1507
01:14:49,263 --> 01:14:50,702
I'm not saying
it's silver, but--

1508
01:14:57,711 --> 01:14:58,908
It's an odd shape.

1509
01:15:04,410 --> 01:15:06,718
We didn't find
any evidence of bodies

1510
01:15:06,753 --> 01:15:08,687
in the ground
or old structures.

1511
01:15:08,722 --> 01:15:11,250
So, that makes sense
that at one time

1512
01:15:11,285 --> 01:15:13,219
there were
graves back there

1513
01:15:13,254 --> 01:15:15,221
but the bodies
have been removed.

1514
01:15:15,256 --> 01:15:16,959
And that's
what the ERI survey said,

1515
01:15:16,994 --> 01:15:19,632
that there are
unmarked graves there

1516
01:15:19,667 --> 01:15:22,602
but the bodies
just aren't there anymore.

1517
01:15:25,035 --> 01:15:29,708
♪

1518
01:15:31,404 --> 01:15:34,108
I-- I set up some
environmental sensors for us.

1519
01:15:34,143 --> 01:15:35,274
Uh-huh.

1520
01:15:36,410 --> 01:15:38,981
And I'm going to be monitoring
temperature, pressure.

1521
01:15:39,016 --> 01:15:41,687
And also, I--
I do have a magnetic coil

1522
01:15:41,722 --> 01:15:43,821
that I've wired up
to an amplifier,

1523
01:15:43,856 --> 01:15:46,285
and I just
put it on the walking stick.

1524
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:47,627
I felt like there was...

1525
01:15:48,830 --> 01:15:50,828
Atmospheric data has always
been really important to me

1526
01:15:50,863 --> 01:15:52,258
on any investigation I do

1527
01:15:52,293 --> 01:15:54,260
because I have
found correlations

1528
01:15:54,295 --> 01:15:56,328
between a change
in the environment

1529
01:15:56,363 --> 01:15:59,034
with paranormal
activity happening.

1530
01:15:59,069 --> 01:16:00,739
I'm not saying that
that's a ghost.

1531
01:16:00,774 --> 01:16:03,709
But what I am saying
is that there are weird,

1532
01:16:03,744 --> 01:16:06,008
interesting things
that sometimes take place

1533
01:16:06,043 --> 01:16:07,911
when you see
a dip in the data.

1534
01:16:07,946 --> 01:16:10,111
And I always find
that to be fascinating.

1535
01:16:12,346 --> 01:16:14,181
-Nice.
-Ta-da.

1536
01:16:14,216 --> 01:16:15,787
We look great.

1537
01:16:16,185 --> 01:16:17,448
Oh, my gosh.

1538
01:16:17,483 --> 01:16:19,186
-I look crazed.

1539
01:16:20,827 --> 01:16:22,728
All right,
so I brought a Theremin,

1540
01:16:22,763 --> 01:16:25,731
um, which is
an old school instrument.

1541
01:16:25,766 --> 01:16:27,293
So, if we could
wire the door.

1542
01:16:27,328 --> 01:16:30,032
But we're going to extend
the range of it, right?

1543
01:16:30,067 --> 01:16:31,770
Yeah,
so I think by, like,

1544
01:16:31,805 --> 01:16:33,398
extending the antenna out.

1545
01:16:33,433 --> 01:16:35,037
-Uh-huh.
-And since the--

1546
01:16:35,072 --> 01:16:37,402
We both
when we first arrived here,

1547
01:16:37,437 --> 01:16:39,041
we were drawn
to this door frame.

1548
01:16:39,076 --> 01:16:40,713
-Yeah.
-So I think that

1549
01:16:40,748 --> 01:16:42,374
by creating a threshold.

1550
01:16:42,409 --> 01:16:45,476
So, if any, like,
subtle energy comes in,

1551
01:16:45,511 --> 01:16:47,115
the hope is that
it sets off the Theremin.

1552
01:16:47,150 --> 01:16:49,051
Right.
That would be great.

1553
01:16:50,923 --> 01:16:53,825
So, we're just
wrapping the copper wire

1554
01:16:53,860 --> 01:16:56,487
around the, uh, pitch antenna
of the Theremin, here.

1555
01:16:56,522 --> 01:16:58,929
So, this would be
normally how you control

1556
01:16:58,964 --> 01:17:01,426
the, uh-- the pitch sound
by moving your hand closer.

1557
01:17:01,461 --> 01:17:02,900
Completely experimental.

1558
01:17:02,935 --> 01:17:04,330
Not sure
if it's going to work.

1559
01:17:04,365 --> 01:17:07,069
But if it does, that would be
really interesting.

1560
01:17:11,812 --> 01:17:14,241
It's just good
to continue to try new things.

1561
01:17:16,509 --> 01:17:17,915
So...

1562
01:17:20,249 --> 01:17:21,347
Now we'll see.

1563
01:17:21,987 --> 01:17:23,822
-Yeah?

1564
01:17:23,857 --> 01:17:25,384
So now it's working
because normally

1565
01:17:25,419 --> 01:17:27,188
you have to be
touching that.

1566
01:17:28,158 --> 01:17:29,223
Go, go in the door.

1567
01:17:30,798 --> 01:17:32,160
-Oh.
-Yeah.

1568
01:17:32,195 --> 01:17:33,865
That time it worked.
Yeah. That time it worked.

1569
01:17:33,900 --> 01:17:35,196
-That worked.
-So it is--

1570
01:17:35,231 --> 01:17:36,428
It's building up
and getting the whole thing.

1571
01:17:36,463 --> 01:17:37,968
-Yeah.
-Yeah--

1572
01:17:38,003 --> 01:17:39,266
-Oh, see! Can you hear it?
-Yup.

1573
01:17:39,301 --> 01:17:40,773
-That's a lot of fun.

1574
01:17:40,808 --> 01:17:42,170
Oh, that's so fun.

1575
01:17:43,536 --> 01:17:45,074
I love science.

1576
01:17:46,814 --> 01:17:48,209
I like it.
That's great.

1577
01:17:49,014 --> 01:17:50,475
The science community
isn't open

1578
01:17:50,510 --> 01:17:52,543
to the idea
of the paranormal.

1579
01:17:52,578 --> 01:17:55,854
And unfortunately,
the paranormal community

1580
01:17:55,889 --> 01:17:58,549
isn't viewed as--

1581
01:17:58,584 --> 01:18:00,859
It's not taken seriously.
Like, that's a problem.

1582
01:18:00,894 --> 01:18:02,960
We're just
not taken seriously.

1583
01:18:04,161 --> 01:18:05,930
I've always thought
it was interesting

1584
01:18:05,965 --> 01:18:09,197
that for some reason
people think science

1585
01:18:09,232 --> 01:18:12,266
and spirituality
have to butt heads.

1586
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:14,906
You know, the fact
that research scientists

1587
01:18:14,941 --> 01:18:17,007
would be afraid to speak
to somebody about something

1588
01:18:17,042 --> 01:18:19,845
of a spiritual nature
or paranormal nature,

1589
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:21,506
I think shows that divide.

1590
01:18:21,541 --> 01:18:23,981
And that divide is--
is a problem.

1591
01:18:24,016 --> 01:18:26,016
I would love to get
to a place where the field's

1592
01:18:26,051 --> 01:18:28,579
taken more seriously,
because not only do I think

1593
01:18:28,614 --> 01:18:30,152
the paranormal community
is missing out

1594
01:18:30,187 --> 01:18:31,582
but I also feel
like the science community

1595
01:18:31,617 --> 01:18:33,023
is missing out.

1596
01:18:33,058 --> 01:18:34,552
Do the initial run in here.

1597
01:18:34,587 --> 01:18:36,895
Yeah, I think yesterday-- What?

1598
01:18:37,557 --> 01:18:38,897
I got too close to it.

1599
01:18:38,932 --> 01:18:40,294
-Okay.

1600
01:18:40,329 --> 01:18:42,901
But this is interesting
because if something--

1601
01:18:42,936 --> 01:18:44,903
This doorway
seems to be an active spot

1602
01:18:44,938 --> 01:18:46,465
so if something decides
to walk through here,

1603
01:18:46,500 --> 01:18:48,203
we should be
able to hear it.

1604
01:18:49,239 --> 01:18:50,568
So we're going
to do an experiment.

1605
01:18:50,603 --> 01:18:52,174
All right.
Very good.

1606
01:18:52,209 --> 01:18:54,308
So first we're going
to do an initial session.

1607
01:18:56,378 --> 01:18:59,181
Everything's beeping.
Did you touch the door?

1608
01:18:59,216 --> 01:19:00,248
No.

1609
01:19:00,283 --> 01:19:05,418
♪

1610
01:19:05,453 --> 01:19:07,959
I have to keep an ear
out for both these things.

1611
01:19:14,528 --> 01:19:17,067
I'm just going
to baseline this meter.

1612
01:19:17,102 --> 01:19:18,266
Uh-huh.

1613
01:19:19,236 --> 01:19:21,907
Hello.
This is Elizabeth and Dustin.

1614
01:19:22,635 --> 01:19:24,470
If you're able
to communicate with us

1615
01:19:24,505 --> 01:19:26,274
or maybe
let us hear your voice.

1616
01:19:26,672 --> 01:19:28,947
Try to speak
into this device here.

1617
01:19:30,016 --> 01:19:31,312
We may be
able to hear you.

1618
01:19:31,347 --> 01:19:36,383
♪

1619
01:19:43,260 --> 01:19:46,030
Dustin to, uh,
the team out in the tech tent.

1620
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:47,966
Can you see
if anybody is walking

1621
01:19:48,001 --> 01:19:50,331
in the DVR cameras downstairs?

1622
01:19:52,005 --> 01:19:54,038
-Nobody's walking.

1623
01:19:54,535 --> 01:19:57,976
Okay, so... timestamp.

1624
01:20:04,413 --> 01:20:05,544
You hear that?

1625
01:20:16,722 --> 01:20:20,163
Can you tell us
what road the house is on?

1626
01:20:22,530 --> 01:20:24,398
Is there a name
you like to go by?

1627
01:20:27,139 --> 01:20:29,942
What's the object
on the stairs that you move?

1628
01:20:35,708 --> 01:20:38,115
-out here.
-All right.

1629
01:20:43,716 --> 01:20:45,683
Pardon me, young lady.

1630
01:20:45,718 --> 01:20:47,025
<i>Is there a name</i>

1631
01:20:47,060 --> 01:20:48,257
<i>you like to go by?</i>

1632
01:20:50,195 --> 01:20:51,722
<i> What's</i>
<i>the object on the stairs</i>

1633
01:20:51,757 --> 01:20:53,031
<i>that you move?</i>

1634
01:20:55,002 --> 01:20:57,563
-Oh! Did you hear that?
-I did!

1635
01:20:57,598 --> 01:20:59,301
Oh, that's awesome!

1636
01:20:59,336 --> 01:21:01,303
Wow.

1637
01:21:01,338 --> 01:21:03,272
<i> What's</i>
<i>the object on the stairs</i>

1638
01:21:03,307 --> 01:21:04,006
<i>that you move?</i>

1639
01:21:04,041 --> 01:21:05,439
<i> Baseball.</i>

1640
01:21:05,474 --> 01:21:07,474
Oh! That's so good.

1641
01:21:08,312 --> 01:21:10,312
I think
he says "Baseball".

1642
01:21:10,347 --> 01:21:12,149
<i>Yeah, right?</i>

1643
01:21:12,547 --> 01:21:14,184
Crazy that
baseball was said.

1644
01:21:14,219 --> 01:21:15,713
Right. For sure.

1645
01:21:15,748 --> 01:21:18,518
How much is that
collectively us

1646
01:21:18,553 --> 01:21:19,618
-knowing?
-Right.

1647
01:21:20,192 --> 01:21:23,226
Maybe after
we charge it up,

1648
01:21:23,261 --> 01:21:25,063
we ask those
questions again.

1649
01:21:25,098 --> 01:21:26,724
-The same exact ones.
-Yeah.

1650
01:21:26,759 --> 01:21:28,264
And see
if there's a change.

1651
01:21:28,299 --> 01:21:29,694
And then maybe we should
throw in another question

1652
01:21:29,729 --> 01:21:31,366
that we don't know
the answer to.

1653
01:21:31,764 --> 01:21:35,040
I did bring an ion motor

1654
01:21:35,075 --> 01:21:36,602
that actually
creates and generates

1655
01:21:36,637 --> 01:21:38,175
its own
positive force field.

1656
01:21:38,210 --> 01:21:40,243
But it's a--
it's a pretty serious one.

1657
01:21:41,741 --> 01:21:43,543
Could be
potentially dangerous.

1658
01:21:43,578 --> 01:21:45,149
I don't know,

1659
01:21:45,184 --> 01:21:46,711
but I want to change
the environment.

1660
01:21:46,746 --> 01:21:48,251
I want to see
what it's like before.

1661
01:21:48,286 --> 01:21:50,451
And I want to see
if you induce anything else

1662
01:21:50,486 --> 01:21:53,685
in the environment,
if that also creates a change.

1663
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:56,391
If activity increases.

1664
01:21:57,361 --> 01:21:58,294
I can smell it.

1665
01:22:01,563 --> 01:22:05,037
Can you tell me
what street this house is on?

1666
01:22:08,438 --> 01:22:10,669
Can you tell us the name
of the woman that lives here?

1667
01:22:10,704 --> 01:22:12,176
The woman
that built this house?

1668
01:22:15,313 --> 01:22:16,774
Can you
tell us what's going on

1669
01:22:16,809 --> 01:22:19,018
with the lights
inside this house?

1670
01:22:21,550 --> 01:22:24,419
What is the object
on the stairs that you move?

1671
01:22:26,819 --> 01:22:28,819
Two gentlemen
that have investigated here

1672
01:22:28,854 --> 01:22:31,393
for 12, 13, 14 years.

1673
01:22:32,264 --> 01:22:34,033
Do you know
either of their names?

1674
01:22:38,303 --> 01:22:40,534
<i>Can you tell me what street</i>

1675
01:22:40,569 --> 01:22:41,634
<i>this house is on?</i>

1676
01:22:45,178 --> 01:22:46,672
<i>Could you tell us the name--</i>

1677
01:22:46,707 --> 01:22:48,608
I think
he says "White Road."

1678
01:22:48,643 --> 01:22:50,808
<i>Can you tell me what street</i>

1679
01:22:50,843 --> 01:22:52,117
<i>this house is on?</i>

1680
01:22:55,452 --> 01:22:57,551
Yeah.
It says, "White Road."

1681
01:22:57,586 --> 01:22:58,816
<i>...what street</i>

1682
01:22:58,851 --> 01:23:00,092
<i>this house is on?</i>

1683
01:23:02,459 --> 01:23:03,689
-<i> White Road.</i>

1684
01:23:03,724 --> 01:23:04,822
<i> ...the name</i>

1685
01:23:04,857 --> 01:23:06,329
<i>of the woman that lives here?</i>

1686
01:23:06,364 --> 01:23:07,726
<i>-The woman that built house?</i>
-What?

1687
01:23:07,761 --> 01:23:09,200
<i> Can you tell us</i>
<i>the name of the</i>

1688
01:23:09,235 --> 01:23:10,366
<i>woman that lives here?</i>

1689
01:23:10,401 --> 01:23:11,767
<i>The woman</i>
<i>that built this house?</i>

1690
01:23:11,803 --> 01:23:13,468
<i> Can</i>
<i>you tell us what's going on--</i>

1691
01:23:13,503 --> 01:23:14,436
Yikes.

1692
01:23:14,471 --> 01:23:15,833
<i>What is the object</i>

1693
01:23:15,868 --> 01:23:17,505
<i>on the stairs that you move?</i>

1694
01:23:19,344 --> 01:23:20,640
He just said,
"Ball" that time, yeah.

1695
01:23:20,675 --> 01:23:22,246
He just said, "Ball."

1696
01:23:22,281 --> 01:23:23,841
<i>Two gentlemen that have</i>

1697
01:23:23,876 --> 01:23:26,547
<i>investigated here</i>
<i>for 12, 13, 14 years.</i>

1698
01:23:26,582 --> 01:23:28,219
<i>Do you know</i>
<i>either of their names?</i>

1699
01:23:30,223 --> 01:23:31,486
Did he say, "Jack?"

1700
01:23:32,357 --> 01:23:33,620
So now we're going to do

1701
01:23:33,655 --> 01:23:35,160
something a little different

1702
01:23:35,195 --> 01:23:38,592
and we're going to
show you some cards.

1703
01:23:38,627 --> 01:23:40,198
Here is the first card.

1704
01:23:40,233 --> 01:23:41,529
Can you tell us
what you see?

1705
01:23:44,270 --> 01:23:46,468
We're going to show you
the second card.

1706
01:23:47,174 --> 01:23:48,569
Tell us what you see.

1707
01:23:51,178 --> 01:23:54,113
Is it a number
or is it a face card?

1708
01:23:57,250 --> 01:23:58,645
Here's the third card.

1709
01:24:01,650 --> 01:24:02,682
What color is it?

1710
01:24:04,917 --> 01:24:06,323
What number?

1711
01:24:09,757 --> 01:24:11,394
Putting down card three.

1712
01:24:13,794 --> 01:24:16,135
I'm going to show you
card four, now.

1713
01:24:18,535 --> 01:24:21,536
Can you tell me
what card Dustin is holding?

1714
01:24:27,940 --> 01:24:29,709
Putting down card four.

1715
01:24:29,744 --> 01:24:31,414
<i>Here is the first card.</i>

1716
01:24:31,449 --> 01:24:32,745
<i>Can you tell us</i>
<i>what you see?</i>

1717
01:24:35,486 --> 01:24:37,354
<i>We're going to show you</i>
<i>the second card.</i>

1718
01:24:37,389 --> 01:24:38,718
<i>Tell us what you see.</i>

1719
01:24:39,820 --> 01:24:41,688
I think he says it's four.

1720
01:24:41,723 --> 01:24:43,789
<i>What color is it?</i>

1721
01:24:43,824 --> 01:24:45,593
<i>-What number?</i>

1722
01:24:45,628 --> 01:24:46,891
Six.

1723
01:24:46,926 --> 01:24:49,267
-It literally said, "Six."
-It's crazy.

1724
01:24:49,302 --> 01:24:50,664
<i>I'm going to show you</i>

1725
01:24:50,699 --> 01:24:52,270
<i>card four, now.</i>

1726
01:24:52,305 --> 01:24:54,272
<i>Can you tell me</i>
<i>what card Dustin is holding?</i>

1727
01:24:55,968 --> 01:24:57,539
Red ten?

1728
01:24:58,839 --> 01:25:01,279
But we got
to play this again because--

1729
01:25:01,314 --> 01:25:03,578
-This is ridiculous.
-Bizarre.

1730
01:25:04,911 --> 01:25:07,483
I've never had

1731
01:25:07,518 --> 01:25:09,221
a communication response like,

1732
01:25:09,256 --> 01:25:10,717
with this
blind study thing

1733
01:25:10,752 --> 01:25:12,389
that seemed
to go that well.

1734
01:25:12,424 --> 01:25:14,292
No, but let's
back off for a second

1735
01:25:14,327 --> 01:25:15,689
because
it wasn't just that.

1736
01:25:15,724 --> 01:25:17,328
Like at the end,

1737
01:25:17,363 --> 01:25:19,297
we re-asked
the same questions

1738
01:25:19,332 --> 01:25:21,662
-and we got clearer responses.
-Clearer answers.

1739
01:25:21,697 --> 01:25:22,729
Oh, crap.

1740
01:25:26,372 --> 01:25:28,207
Yeah.
White Road. Alice.

1741
01:25:28,539 --> 01:25:30,308
Said something
about their names.

1742
01:25:30,343 --> 01:25:31,639
I couldn't pick it up.
I thought it said, "Jack."

1743
01:25:32,543 --> 01:25:33,608
Jack.

1744
01:25:36,679 --> 01:25:38,514
Heard, "White Road."
I heard, "Alice."

1745
01:25:38,549 --> 01:25:39,977
-Oh, they did?
-I heard white--

1746
01:25:40,012 --> 01:25:41,649
They got "White Road,"
they got, "Alice."

1747
01:25:41,684 --> 01:25:43,552
White Road, damn.
That's where I live.

1748
01:25:43,587 --> 01:25:45,323
I mean, damn,
that's getting personal.

1749
01:25:46,623 --> 01:25:48,623
<i>Here's the third card.</i>

1750
01:25:48,658 --> 01:25:50,427
<i>What color is it?</i>

1751
01:25:50,462 --> 01:25:51,989
<i>-What number?</i>

1752
01:25:52,024 --> 01:25:54,563
Six.
That you hear very clearly.

1753
01:25:54,598 --> 01:25:57,368
-Six, six.
-Did he say, "Six?"

1754
01:25:57,403 --> 01:25:58,996
Getting direct
responses to the card--

1755
01:25:59,031 --> 01:26:00,064
.

1756
01:26:01,638 --> 01:26:03,572
<i>Here's the third card.</i>

1757
01:26:03,607 --> 01:26:05,475
<i>-What color is it?</i>

1758
01:26:05,510 --> 01:26:06,938
-<i> What number?</i>
-Red six.

1759
01:26:06,973 --> 01:26:08,643
Six.

1760
01:26:08,678 --> 01:26:10,007
<i>I'm going to show you</i>

1761
01:26:10,042 --> 01:26:11,349
<i>card four now.</i>

1762
01:26:11,384 --> 01:26:12,680
-That's so wild.
-This is insane.

1763
01:26:12,715 --> 01:26:14,352
<i>Can you tell me what card</i>

1764
01:26:14,387 --> 01:26:15,452
<i>-Dustin is holding?</i>

1765
01:26:15,487 --> 01:26:16,618
Red ten.

1766
01:26:16,653 --> 01:26:18,488
But you don't really
get the impact of it

1767
01:26:18,523 --> 01:26:21,524
because it's like-- you know,
there's a conscious being,

1768
01:26:21,559 --> 01:26:25,264
invisible-- invisible,
conscious being in your room.

1769
01:26:25,695 --> 01:26:27,365
I mean, really,
that's a little unnerving.

1770
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:28,762
I mean, really,
you just go take a shower.

1771
01:26:28,797 --> 01:26:30,599
You think, "Who is
watching me take a shower?"

1772
01:26:30,634 --> 01:26:32,469
I mean, really, you do,
because something's there.

1773
01:26:32,504 --> 01:26:34,273
Some-- something's there.

1774
01:26:36,838 --> 01:26:38,002
Last time we got baseball,

1775
01:26:38,037 --> 01:26:39,476
which was great by itself.

1776
01:26:39,511 --> 01:26:40,972
-Right.
-But now it was

1777
01:26:41,007 --> 01:26:42,545
every question pretty much
had an answer, every card--

1778
01:26:42,580 --> 01:26:43,975
Even if we couldn't
make it out.

1779
01:26:44,010 --> 01:26:45,416
Yeah.

1780
01:26:45,451 --> 01:26:47,451
-The cards are wild, though.
-Yeah.

1781
01:26:47,486 --> 01:26:49,387
Yeah, like, it just--
it just blows my mind.

1782
01:26:49,422 --> 01:26:52,049
Of all the years doing this,
like I've never had--

1783
01:26:52,084 --> 01:26:54,018
I mean,
you're lucky if you get an EVP.

1784
01:26:54,053 --> 01:26:56,526
It's still pretty good.

1785
01:26:56,990 --> 01:26:59,958
So much more
could be found out,

1786
01:26:59,993 --> 01:27:01,828
explored,
experimented with.

1787
01:27:01,863 --> 01:27:04,930
You know, if we were
just open to the idea

1788
01:27:04,965 --> 01:27:07,471
of incorporating
science into the mix.

1789
01:27:07,506 --> 01:27:09,836
I think one of the nice things
about the Mississippi house

1790
01:27:09,871 --> 01:27:12,707
of Alice's house is
it allows for that to happen.

1791
01:27:13,138 --> 01:27:15,446
Because it's been
documented long enough

1792
01:27:15,481 --> 01:27:18,350
where it's not just
some crazy story.

1793
01:27:18,385 --> 01:27:20,550
I think that's the--
the nice thing about it.

1794
01:27:29,594 --> 01:27:30,659
Hello.

1795
01:27:30,958 --> 01:27:32,430
My name's Laurie McDonald.

1796
01:27:32,465 --> 01:27:34,432
I'm a certified
clinical hypnotherapist

1797
01:27:34,467 --> 01:27:37,996
at True You Hypnotherapy
in Sacramento, California.

1798
01:27:38,735 --> 01:27:41,505
So, you tell me
where you want me.

1799
01:27:41,540 --> 01:27:44,101
So my purpose
in coming here

1800
01:27:44,136 --> 01:27:46,906
is to facilitate a process

1801
01:27:46,941 --> 01:27:48,974
that will allow Alice

1802
01:27:49,009 --> 01:27:50,712
to feel that sense of ease

1803
01:27:50,747 --> 01:27:54,584
and to be able to take
possession of her own home.

1804
01:27:54,619 --> 01:27:59,622
♪

1805
01:28:01,494 --> 01:28:02,955
We'll begin

1806
01:28:02,990 --> 01:28:04,825
the way I always begin

1807
01:28:04,860 --> 01:28:07,597
by just having you
take some long, deep

1808
01:28:07,632 --> 01:28:10,028
rhythmic breaths
in through the nose

1809
01:28:10,063 --> 01:28:11,634
and out through the mouth.

1810
01:28:12,901 --> 01:28:14,164
And in a moment,

1811
01:28:14,199 --> 01:28:15,902
I'm going
to count backwards.

1812
01:28:16,740 --> 01:28:20,005
Ten, seven.
Twice as deep now.

1813
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:23,514
On five, on three...

1814
01:28:24,649 --> 01:28:25,714
two...

1815
01:28:26,211 --> 01:28:27,650
and one.

1816
01:28:28,785 --> 01:28:30,752
We're going to go
back to a time

1817
01:28:30,787 --> 01:28:32,523
when you awoke

1818
01:28:32,558 --> 01:28:35,757
and saw
a very specific light.

1819
01:28:35,792 --> 01:28:36,989
See that now.

1820
01:28:38,531 --> 01:28:41,026
It-- it--
it came on with a--

1821
01:28:41,061 --> 01:28:43,600
With a flash
in an instant.

1822
01:28:44,064 --> 01:28:47,571
I just,
totally unexpected.

1823
01:28:48,673 --> 01:28:51,201
Everything else
in the room was black.

1824
01:28:51,236 --> 01:28:54,006
Total black.
Very black.

1825
01:28:55,812 --> 01:28:58,043
What if it turns toward me?
What happens?

1826
01:28:58,078 --> 01:28:59,847
I mean, it-- it--

1827
01:29:00,179 --> 01:29:01,717
And what is its purpose?

1828
01:29:06,559 --> 01:29:08,790
That-- I just
happened to be there.

1829
01:29:08,825 --> 01:29:11,727
I don't think it--
its intent was to appear to me.

1830
01:29:11,762 --> 01:29:14,829
Do you sense
in this light...

1831
01:29:15,568 --> 01:29:16,930
-intelligence?
-Uh-huh.

1832
01:29:18,263 --> 01:29:20,197
Not that
the light's conscious

1833
01:29:20,232 --> 01:29:21,671
but that the...

1834
01:29:22,707 --> 01:29:24,509
governing
of the light is.

1835
01:29:24,544 --> 01:29:26,038
So, the light's
coming from a source?

1836
01:29:26,073 --> 01:29:27,237
Yeah.

1837
01:29:27,272 --> 01:29:30,944
Just, uh--
just intelligence, like--

1838
01:29:31,243 --> 01:29:33,716
like intelligent, um...

1839
01:29:36,050 --> 01:29:38,556
beings, maybe a group.

1840
01:29:39,691 --> 01:29:43,627
Or something they're--
they're intently interested in.

1841
01:29:45,994 --> 01:29:47,796
Sense into the light

1842
01:29:47,831 --> 01:29:50,128
and try to sense

1843
01:29:50,163 --> 01:29:51,965
their intent.

1844
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:57,036
♪

1845
01:30:02,813 --> 01:30:04,109
Whatever they were doing,

1846
01:30:04,144 --> 01:30:06,848
it seemed very important.

1847
01:30:06,883 --> 01:30:09,851
It's like they were
all gathered around.

1848
01:30:13,219 --> 01:30:16,825
observing something
beneath the earth.

1849
01:30:17,564 --> 01:30:19,256
Who's the outcome
important to?

1850
01:30:19,291 --> 01:30:20,862
-To them.
-To them.

1851
01:30:22,668 --> 01:30:25,262
And is there
anything else

1852
01:30:25,297 --> 01:30:27,869
about this
particular light

1853
01:30:27,904 --> 01:30:30,971
that we need
to know about or you're...

1854
01:30:33,140 --> 01:30:34,678
pretty comfortable?

1855
01:30:38,651 --> 01:30:40,046
Yeah.
I'm-- I'm-- I'm--

1856
01:30:41,819 --> 01:30:44,985
Yeah, I think
the light was just a means,

1857
01:30:45,020 --> 01:30:47,856
that there was
no particular meaning.

1858
01:30:48,188 --> 01:30:50,155
I'm very,
very happy to hear that.

1859
01:30:50,190 --> 01:30:53,290
Because you are
removed from it

1860
01:30:53,325 --> 01:30:54,830
from this moment forward

1861
01:30:54,865 --> 01:30:56,766
and for the rest
of your life...

1862
01:30:57,329 --> 01:30:58,768
removed from it.

1863
01:30:58,803 --> 01:31:00,902
Through eliminating fear,

1864
01:31:00,937 --> 01:31:04,301
we're opening up
other avenues of energy,

1865
01:31:04,336 --> 01:31:05,940
like curiosity.

1866
01:31:06,338 --> 01:31:07,876
And that's much
healthier

1867
01:31:07,911 --> 01:31:10,340
and puts her in a place
of personal empowerment.

1868
01:31:10,375 --> 01:31:12,848
So, I want you to take
a really deep breath now.

1869
01:31:14,379 --> 01:31:17,556
-Just really exhale.

1870
01:31:18,284 --> 01:31:20,218
And I want you
to really feel

1871
01:31:20,253 --> 01:31:22,660
how good it is to know

1872
01:31:22,695 --> 01:31:25,091
that you don't have to be
afraid of that anymore.

1873
01:31:27,161 --> 01:31:28,292
And let it all go.

1874
01:31:31,396 --> 01:31:33,033
And how does that feel?

1875
01:31:35,675 --> 01:31:37,642
I-- I do feel, um,

1876
01:31:37,677 --> 01:31:40,238
separated more from it.

1877
01:31:40,273 --> 01:31:43,307
So, coming back
now on one,

1878
01:31:43,342 --> 01:31:45,980
two, taking a deep
breath on three.

1879
01:31:46,851 --> 01:31:49,016
Wiggling the toes on four.

1880
01:31:49,051 --> 01:31:51,689
-Uh-huh.
-Eyes open five.

1881
01:31:52,153 --> 01:31:54,659
-Okay.
-Very good.

1882
01:31:56,421 --> 01:31:58,289
I mean,
the ultimate goal here

1883
01:31:58,324 --> 01:32:00,830
is to get Alice
comfortable in the house,

1884
01:32:00,865 --> 01:32:02,326
to get her to stay here.

1885
01:32:02,361 --> 01:32:03,734
It would be awesome

1886
01:32:03,769 --> 01:32:05,164
if she could
live here full time.

1887
01:32:05,199 --> 01:32:06,363
But right now,

1888
01:32:06,398 --> 01:32:08,035
she's not
living here full time.

1889
01:32:08,070 --> 01:32:10,708
Obviously, she won't even
sleep here alone at night.

1890
01:32:10,743 --> 01:32:12,974
But I want to take it
in steps, if I can.

1891
01:32:13,009 --> 01:32:15,713
If we can get her
in the house for a night

1892
01:32:15,748 --> 01:32:17,275
and then
maybe that one night

1893
01:32:17,310 --> 01:32:18,848
will turn
into a few nights.

1894
01:32:18,883 --> 01:32:21,114
And maybe the few nights
will turn into a week.

1895
01:32:21,149 --> 01:32:22,412
That week
becomes a month

1896
01:32:22,447 --> 01:32:24,689
and now
she's in the house full time.

1897
01:32:24,724 --> 01:32:26,383
Tonight, anyway,

1898
01:32:26,418 --> 01:32:29,694
I wanted
to get your feeling...

1899
01:32:30,455 --> 01:32:33,258
uh, on-- on, uh--
on the house

1900
01:32:33,293 --> 01:32:35,425
and on
where we're sort of at.

1901
01:32:35,460 --> 01:32:37,394
Well,
we spoke to the team

1902
01:32:37,429 --> 01:32:40,232
and they're,
you know, on standby

1903
01:32:40,267 --> 01:32:42,333
in case
you're okay with this.

1904
01:32:42,368 --> 01:32:45,336
But we are wondering
if maybe tonight

1905
01:32:45,371 --> 01:32:46,876
might be
a night you might be

1906
01:32:46,911 --> 01:32:48,911
willing to sleep
in the house.

1907
01:32:48,946 --> 01:32:51,375
You know, I've actually
been thinking about that

1908
01:32:51,410 --> 01:32:53,212
since the hypnosis

1909
01:32:53,247 --> 01:32:55,016
because for some reason,

1910
01:32:55,051 --> 01:32:56,886
you know,
it wasn't what I expected.

1911
01:32:56,921 --> 01:32:59,383
I expected that I would
have to relive that experience

1912
01:32:59,418 --> 01:33:01,319
but it wasn't that at all.

1913
01:33:01,354 --> 01:33:03,420
You know,
it was actually

1914
01:33:03,455 --> 01:33:05,730
getting out
of that experience.

1915
01:33:05,765 --> 01:33:09,195
And so I feel like
I can watch it

1916
01:33:09,230 --> 01:33:10,427
from a distance.

1917
01:33:10,462 --> 01:33:11,967
-That's interesting.
-Yeah.

1918
01:33:12,002 --> 01:33:13,738
You know,
I'll sleep with my flashlight

1919
01:33:13,773 --> 01:33:15,333
and, um, I'm good.

1920
01:33:15,368 --> 01:33:17,203
-I'll-- I'll try to do it.
-You're thinking--

1921
01:33:17,238 --> 01:33:18,435
-Uh-huh.
-Really?

1922
01:33:18,470 --> 01:33:19,777
I think that
she knows that this is

1923
01:33:19,812 --> 01:33:21,779
the first step for her

1924
01:33:21,814 --> 01:33:24,309
to be able
to live in the house

1925
01:33:24,344 --> 01:33:26,949
and be able
to be here full time.

1926
01:33:26,984 --> 01:33:28,852
I don't necessarily
think that, you know,

1927
01:33:28,887 --> 01:33:30,788
the activity
is going to fully stop.

1928
01:33:30,823 --> 01:33:33,450
And if we weren't
able to ever get her

1929
01:33:33,485 --> 01:33:35,056
back inside the house,

1930
01:33:35,091 --> 01:33:37,729
I wouldn't
consider that a failure.

1931
01:33:37,764 --> 01:33:39,192
She has
so much more confidence

1932
01:33:39,227 --> 01:33:41,865
and I think that
that's a major stepping stone.

1933
01:33:48,104 --> 01:33:49,367
I'm on speed dial.

1934
01:33:49,402 --> 01:33:51,237
Oh, you're so sweet.
Thank you.

1935
01:33:51,272 --> 01:33:56,275
♪

1936
01:34:04,450 --> 01:34:06,351
I'll see you all
hopefully in the morning.

1937
01:34:06,386 --> 01:34:07,418
Okay.

1938
01:34:07,453 --> 01:34:12,889
♪

1939
01:34:20,466 --> 01:34:25,876
♪

1940
01:34:55,270 --> 01:35:00,306
♪

1941
01:35:11,286 --> 01:35:12,318
Oh, yeah.

1942
01:35:15,125 --> 01:35:20,161
♪

1943
01:35:26,972 --> 01:35:32,008
♪

1944
01:35:42,614 --> 01:35:45,021
You know,
she slept in the house.

1945
01:35:45,419 --> 01:35:46,517
She slept in the house.

1946
01:35:47,091 --> 01:35:48,959
In a decade,
she hadn't done that.

1947
01:35:48,994 --> 01:35:51,390
The thing I remember
is the next morning,

1948
01:35:51,425 --> 01:35:54,426
walking in the door
and just smelling coffee.

1949
01:35:55,165 --> 01:35:58,067
She was waking up,
making coffee in her house.

1950
01:35:58,102 --> 01:36:00,102
That just hit me
in a different way.

1951
01:36:00,137 --> 01:36:01,202
It was neat.

1952
01:36:07,276 --> 01:36:09,606
I think it's a natural
response sometimes

1953
01:36:09,641 --> 01:36:11,377
to be afraid
of what you can't explain.

1954
01:36:11,412 --> 01:36:13,643
You have a right to have
your feelings validated.

1955
01:36:13,678 --> 01:36:16,613
But you also,
if you truly want to

1956
01:36:16,648 --> 01:36:18,087
understand that fear,

1957
01:36:18,122 --> 01:36:19,616
you have to explore it.

1958
01:36:19,651 --> 01:36:21,926
You have to
walk through that fear.

1959
01:36:21,961 --> 01:36:23,928
You have to
confront your fear.

1960
01:36:23,963 --> 01:36:25,160
Because something to remember

1961
01:36:25,195 --> 01:36:26,524
and I think
that's very important,

1962
01:36:26,559 --> 01:36:30,264
is sometimes
we don't acknowledge

1963
01:36:30,299 --> 01:36:31,628
our own personal power.

1964
01:36:31,663 --> 01:36:34,070
It's not easy

1965
01:36:34,105 --> 01:36:35,566
to change
the way we see things.

1966
01:36:35,601 --> 01:36:37,205
It's not easy
to change our perspective.

1967
01:36:37,240 --> 01:36:39,636
It takes practice,
it takes time, it takes work.

1968
01:36:40,144 --> 01:36:42,177
And this is our duty,
our responsibilities

1969
01:36:42,212 --> 01:36:44,146
and obligation
of being human.

1970
01:36:44,511 --> 01:36:46,115
This is what we do best.

1971
01:36:46,513 --> 01:36:47,578
We learn.

1972
01:36:47,613 --> 01:36:51,054
♪

1973
01:36:51,089 --> 01:36:52,121
Uh, you know,
Shakespeare said,

1974
01:36:52,156 --> 01:36:53,650
"To thine own self be true."

1975
01:36:53,685 --> 01:36:55,091
And then
that can't speak thoughts

1976
01:36:55,126 --> 01:36:57,390
to any man--
To your own self be true.

1977
01:36:57,425 --> 01:37:00,657
And it would have been
against my own truth

1978
01:37:00,692 --> 01:37:02,901
to have moved out
or to sell it.

1979
01:37:04,168 --> 01:37:06,663
What Kendall
and I set out to do

1980
01:37:06,698 --> 01:37:09,666
was to get Alice
back into her house.

1981
01:37:09,701 --> 01:37:12,042
And that happened.
She spent a night here.

1982
01:37:12,077 --> 01:37:13,912
And she woke up happy.

1983
01:37:15,047 --> 01:37:17,476
And Alice has turned
this whole thing...

1984
01:37:18,512 --> 01:37:19,676
to work for her.

1985
01:37:19,711 --> 01:37:23,020
And I just think
that is remarkable.

1986
01:37:23,055 --> 01:37:25,088
I think
her attitude is perfect.

1987
01:37:25,618 --> 01:37:27,651
And the fact
that she's already

1988
01:37:27,686 --> 01:37:30,060
making steps
to staying back in her home.

1989
01:37:30,095 --> 01:37:32,326
She's taking that fear away

1990
01:37:32,361 --> 01:37:35,263
and she's
replacing it with courage

1991
01:37:35,298 --> 01:37:37,936
and dedication
to getting answers.

1992
01:37:38,598 --> 01:37:41,599
She says she wants to further
the field and I think she has.

1993
01:37:42,173 --> 01:37:44,701
And I don't think
that's ever been done before.

1994
01:37:44,736 --> 01:37:47,110
So I'm kind of feeling like

1995
01:37:47,145 --> 01:37:49,277
this is the most thorough,

1996
01:37:49,312 --> 01:37:51,576
in-depth,
paranormal investigation

1997
01:37:51,611 --> 01:37:54,414
that has
ever been documented.

1998
01:37:54,449 --> 01:37:59,485
♪

1999
01:38:09,134 --> 01:38:11,398
And I say 'when," not "if,"

2000
01:38:11,433 --> 01:38:13,466
because that carriage
will come down.

2001
01:38:13,501 --> 01:38:14,566
You can mark my words.

2002
01:38:14,601 --> 01:38:15,600
I've been saying it before

2003
01:38:15,635 --> 01:38:17,008
you guys even got here

2004
01:38:17,043 --> 01:38:18,339
and you're
going to hear it now.

2005
01:38:18,374 --> 01:38:20,176
I have no reason
to have the full confidence

2006
01:38:20,211 --> 01:38:21,705
but I do have
the full confidence.

2007
01:38:21,740 --> 01:38:23,377
The carriage
is coming down the stairs.

2008
01:38:25,777 --> 01:38:28,118
Any intelligent spirits
that are in the house.

2009
01:38:28,747 --> 01:38:30,780
Focus your energy
on that carriage

2010
01:38:30,815 --> 01:38:32,617
that I placed at the top
of the stairs and you have

2011
01:38:32,652 --> 01:38:35,994
our full permission
to push it down the stairs.

2012
01:38:36,788 --> 01:38:38,722
So, please
focus your energy.

2013
01:38:38,757 --> 01:38:41,131
I know you can
without a doubt,

2014
01:38:41,166 --> 01:38:43,199
and push that carriage
down the stairs.

2015
01:38:49,141 --> 01:38:50,371
-Good?
-Great job.

2016
01:38:50,406 --> 01:38:52,043
-All right.
-Wonderful job.

2017
01:38:52,078 --> 01:38:53,374
Carriage is coming down.

2018
01:38:53,409 --> 01:38:54,771
Let's, uh-- let's
just hold on,

2019
01:38:54,806 --> 01:38:56,311
uh, .

2020
01:39:04,156 --> 01:39:06,222
All right,
I'm going to arm it so...

2021
01:39:07,390 --> 01:39:08,422
30 on here.

2022
01:39:10,294 --> 01:39:11,491
-All right.

2023
01:39:11,526 --> 01:39:13,196
away. Exit now.

2024
01:39:38,124 --> 01:39:39,552
<i> Far away.</i>

2025
01:39:41,622 --> 01:39:46,658
♪

2026
01:40:16,690 --> 01:40:22,100
♪

2027
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:36,636
♪

2028
01:42:11,607 --> 01:42:16,643
♪